Erika Kirk Tells Candace Owens STOP, Candace Says NO w/ Tina Descovich

Summary

Podcast Summary — Timcast IRL: "Erika Kirk Tells Candace Owens STOP, Candace Says NO" w/ Tina Descovich

Date: December 12, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Main Guests: Tina Descovich (Moms for Liberty), Libby Emmons (The Post Millennial), Brett Cooper, Phil Labonte

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Episode Overview

This episode covers the spiraling controversy between Erika Kirk, Candace Owens, and the ongoing fallout from conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the legal case against Tyler Robinson, and the wider cultural and political impacts. The hosts also dive into recent midterm redistricting drama, public education, cultural trends ("Hobby Horsing"), and broader topics like distrust of institutions, gender dynamics, gun rights, and more. The tone is fast, candid, and combative, keeping with Timcast IRL tradition of open, critical conversation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Drama Between Erika Kirk & Candace Owens

[07:36–13:35]

• Context: Candace Owens has been publicly speculating and sharing conspiracy theories about the murder of Charlie Kirk, drawing reaction from Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk.
• Erika Kirk's Response: In a CBS interview, Erika tells Owens: “Stop. That’s it. That’s all I have to say. Stop.” (11:03)
• Candace’s Reaction: She refuses, says “Be more specific. What am I lying about?” and demands specificity before honoring the “stop” request (11:34). Candace previously claimed she'd stop if Erika asked, yet now doubles down, deflects, and demands proof of her “lying.”
• Panel’s View: Tim Pool and guests call Owens’ approach manipulative—she spreads unvetted theories, uses ambiguous sources (“I got a tip from the military”), and then shifts the burden of proof back on her critics.

“She’s just making these implications…so that way she can continue the grift, because she doesn’t answer questions. She’s always got people hanging on the ledge.” — Phil [13:13]

2. Impact of Conspiracy Narratives on Legal Proceedings and the Public

[13:59–21:00]

• Jury Integrity: Extensive concern about jury pool contamination. Mainstreaming of wild narratives online could bias jurors, making a fair trial for Tyler Robinson (the accused) nearly impossible, especially in Utah, where the case is most closely followed.
• Historical Parallels: Discussions of how media coverage affected cases like George Floyd/Derek Chauvin and Luigi Mangione.
• Example from Tim: Gen Z men he met believe “Israel killed Charlie Kirk” purely from Candace’s reporting—highlighting the reach of such claims.

"Her show getting as much viewership as it does…they’re going to have a very difficult time finding an untainted jury pool." — Tim Pool [19:19]

3. Details of the Tyler Robinson Trial

[22:29–28:11]

• Family Involvement: Tyler’s parents reportedly recognized him from surveillance, helped police arrange his surrender, and have remained largely silent, fueling additional conspiracy speculation.
• Defense's Position: Mum so far; no official plea has been entered.
• Evidence: Publicly available evidence (discord chats, text messages) leans toward Robinson’s guilt unless one is deeply “conspiracy minded.”
• Cultural Phenomenon: The group reflects on why people seek more elaborate explanations—sometimes the "mundane" (random violence) is harder to accept than a grand plot.

4. Distrust in Official Narratives

[28:11–34:35]

• Root Causes: Post-COVID, public distrust of government information is at a peak. Many, particularly on the right, refuse to believe anything with an “official” stamp—sometimes to the point of preferring elaborate, unlikely conspiracies.
• Critical Thinking Deficit: Tina from Moms for Liberty points to education system failures that have produced a generation unable to reason critically or vet information.

"People can't critical think" — Tina [31:51]

5. Midterms and Redistricting Fights

[34:35–44:09]

• Indiana Redistricting: Republican state senators vote against Trump-backed redistricting; conservative activists and organizations like Turning Point threaten to primary them.
• DEI & Education Policy: Heated panel criticism of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies and left-wing education initiatives; highlight of a viral clip of Rep. Sarah Stalker expressing guilt over being white and support for “privilege” education in schools (“I don't feel good about being white every day…” [44:54]).
• Wider Trend: The group laments GOP inaction even where they hold legislative supermajorities, warns of Democrat strategic gains through aggressive redistricting, and voices anger about cultural and policy drift.

6. Gender, Voting, and Societal Trends

[54:11–70:05]

• Women's Political Influence: Spirited debate on how gender dynamics shape politics and culture (e.g., voting patterns, cultural phenomena like Fifty Shades of Grey, and "Morning Glory Milking Farm" as bestsellers).
• Voting Reform Fantasies: Suggestions like tying voting to Selective Service registration, with playful but pointed banter over whether women would sign up to be eligible to vote.
• Culture Critique: Ongoing jokes and riffs about how "female macro-patterns" drive trends—including politics, publishing, and even "Hobby Horsing."

7. Cultural Phenomena: Hobby Horsing

[80:22–87:05]

• Internet Subculture: The group watches and jokes about viral videos of “hobby horsing,” equating it to the oddities that emerge from modern connectivity and lack of social guardrails.
• Panel’s View: Wry amusement, concern about the rise of insular, increasingly odd group behavior enabled by the internet.

8. Education, Credentials, and Real World Experience

[108:08–118:08]

• AI in Education: The dangers of AI-generated assignments and grading, especially as public K-12 schools rush to integrate new tech despite accuracy/reliability problems.
• Credentialism Critique: Tim shares personal stories about never finishing high school, attending limited community college, and hacking job applications by focusing on skills and achievements over degrees.

“It's just so insane how people don't understand you can just do things.” — Tim [118:06]

9. Lighter Segments & Riffs

• Desserts, Pie vs Cake, Christmas Baking: [94:00+]
• Sports Scandals: Brief digression into the Sharon Moore Michigan coach scandal—massive career self-destruction over an affair and legal drama, sparked by lust and poor judgment. [77:23–80:22]
• Gun Rights & State Differences: Discussion of gun laws and self-defense scenarios in various states (contrast between NJ, MD, and WV). [59:46–63:09]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Be more specific. What am I lying about?”
  — Candace Owens, paraphrased by Tim Pool [11:34]
• “68 Egyptian planes flying around on Utah time… it is the epitome of unvetted absurdity.”
  — Tim Pool [08:11]
• “She's just making these implications...so that way she can continue the grift.”
  — Phil Labonte [13:13]
• “People can’t critical think.”
  — Tina Descovich [31:51]
• “I think that show was a little problematic. And there was probably a lot of domestic violence.”
  — Libby Emmons, riffing on “The Honeymooners” [47:44]
• “If you hobby horse, you can't vote.”
  — Tim Pool [83:41]
• “All I have to do is argue that you are wrong…I’m not trying to convince you; I’m trying to convince them.”
  — Quoting “Thank You For Smoking” film, Tim Pool [102:47]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro/Sponsor Banter: [00:00–05:31] (skip ad reads & intro)
• Show Start, Guest Intros: [05:31–06:21]
• AI “Hallucinations” about Timcast Cast: [06:21–07:36]
• Erika Kirk vs Candace Owens/Main Story Start: [07:36–13:35]
• Impact on Jury, Robinson Trial Legalities: [13:59–21:00]
• Parents' Role & Defense in Robinson Case: [22:29–28:11]
• Distrust of Government After COVID: [28:11–34:35]
• Midterm Redistricting Showdown (Indiana): [34:35–44:09]
• White Guilt & DEI in Schools—Viral Video Discussion: [44:44–54:11]
• Voting, Gender, & Culture (Romcoms, Novels, etc): [54:11–70:05]
• Timcast's Culture War Betting Segment: [77:15–80:22]
• Hobby Horsing Segment: [80:22–87:05]
• AI & Education, Credential Riffs: [108:08–118:08]

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Conclusion

This Timcast IRL episode explores the wild, sometimes toxic intersection of media drama, true crime, and public discourse—from Candace Owens’ conspiracy-driven content and its legal/social fallout, to redistricting battles, cultural frustration, and the quirks of modern internet communities. Throughout, the crew keeps a sharp, satirical edge—punctuated with jokes, memes, and candor about America’s shifting political and cultural landscape.

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Quick Reference: Who Said What? (Select Quotes with Timestamps)

• Erika Kirk’s message to Candace Owens:
  “Stop. That’s it. That’s all I have to say. Stop.” [11:03]

• Phil Labonte on conspiracy peddling:
  “She’s just making these implications…she can continue the grift.” [13:13]

• Tim Pool on Candace’s influence:
  “Her show…these people are going to be called to the jury, and they’re going to have a very difficult time finding an untainted jury pool…” [19:19]

• Tina on education:
  “People can’t critical think.” [31:51]

• Libby Emmons on culture:
  “I often think that America is a place that is so addicted to the concept of authenticity that we’re constantly trying to peel back the onion…” [33:26]

• Sarah Stalker (viral clip):
  “I don’t feel good about being white every day…” [44:54]

• Tim Pool on hobby horsing:
  “If you hobby horse, you can’t vote.” [83:41]

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Guest Plugs

• Tina Descovich: [122:39] Shout-out to Moms for Liberty and their chapters; info at momsforliberty.org
• Libby Emmons: [123:08] Find her on Twitter @libbyemmons; check out thepostmillennial.com and humanevents.com
• Brett Cooper: [123:18] Instagram & X: @brettdasavic; Pop Culture Crisis hits 384k+ subscribers
• Phil Labonte: [123:56] Band: All That Remains, streaming everywhere

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Transcript

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It looks like the answer will be yes. So this is all tied together. The question being who killed Charlie Kirk and is this trial going to prove it? And that's going to be, I think it's going to take a long time to figure out all of these. These cases are taking forever. So we'll talk about that. Plus, apparently Naito is suggesting that World War three is coming. And I kind of roll my eyes and I know A lot of people are saying, tim, talk about the war, talk about the Venezuela stuff. And I'm like, guys, they keep screaming this in our faces. So of course we will talk about it, but we'll get there and then we've got big midterm talk. Cause Indiana didn't want to redistrict. The Republicans were like no, we won't do that. So of course there are questions about the midterms and I for one want to win cuz I don't want to go back to an era where we had lockdowns and people were forced to get medicated and things like that and they were censoring us. 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[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

So great to be here with you in the dead of winter in West Virginia.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. I love it. So who are you? What do you do?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I am the CEO and co founder of Moms for Liberty. We're a national nonprofit organization fighting for parental rights, better education in America, standing up for kids, getting the big government out of our families.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. Should be fun. We've got Libby hanging out.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm here. I'm hanging out. Really glad to be here with you guys. I'm Libby Emmons from the Post Millennial and Human Events.

[Brett Cooper]

Guys, what is going on? It is Brett. Pop crisis. Brett Cooper. I was gonna start with what's up y'? All? And do this, but I did not. Pop culture crisis is about to hit 384,000 subscribers. You should go over there and check out the channel.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, Everybody. I am Dr. Philip Labonte from All that Remains. I am an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

So for those that have no idea why that just happened, Tate came to me this morning and he said, grok's just straight up lying about the Tim Cast crew. It's the weirdest thing ever. And so I pulled up Grok and I said, who is the. Who are the staff at Tim cast IRL? And it said, Tim Pool, Phil McGraw, Brett Cooper, and Ian Crosland. And we started laughing and I was like, Phil McGraw. I was like, Dr. Phil and Brett Cooper. And so I asked it about Brett Cooper. And it gave me this really long winded. It kept going, talking about how Brett Cooper worked for Tim cast on Pop Culture Crisis before going solo. And it's just, it made everything up. It said that she moved from Maryland to Tennessee. And you know what I realized? It's not lying. It's in a. It's in another dimension. It's an alternate reality. So it's getting everything right.

[Phil Labonte]

It's just too good of AI Hallucinations are back, baby.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Brett Cooper]

See, if I was. I'm not mad. I'm not famous. Phil should be mad. Phil's famous. And they're in there mixing in love with another famous person.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, everything's like water off the duck's back.

[Tim Pool]

I don't care.

[Libby Emmons]

All the chat GPTs and everything. Still called Trump. Former President Trump. I mean, the amount of lies in these machines is a precursor for the end of information storage and humanity.

[Tim Pool]

How fun. All right, let's jump into the the first story we got for you guys. Now we have this story from CBS News. Erica Kirk has one word for Candace Owens, who's been peddling conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk. And admittedly, it's all a bit of heavy drama. But I actually think this does matter for a variety of reasons. And I think this is actually a big piece of the story today, which was Tyler Robinson had his first in person hearing and we're learning a lot about what's going on now. However, there are way too many people that live in Wally world believing the most insane things because of Candace Owens. Now, I'm not going to sit here and claim the feds are telling you the truth or the FBI is right about everything and by all means you're allowed to believe it's a cover up. But I can certainly tell you that 68 Egyptian planes flying around on Utah time or whatever it is. You know the argument that she's making. She claimed that E4s and E5s were lieutenant colonels. Do you see this going viral recently? It is, it is the epitome of unvetted absurdity.

[Phil Labonte]

Got to salute the E4 mafia now.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. And she's saying that the US military is involved and Bridget McCrone's a man and all of these things and it's all tied together and it is crack pottery. But there are many people who are falling for this. Now, I want to get to the bottom of who killed Charlie Kirk and it may or may not be Tyler Robinson. I think the evidence suggests it is because it's Silly to think that the feds were going to plot out this cover up and then do it as miserably as is being suggested. It may actually just be that the shooter plotted things out miserably as. As has been suggested. But Erica Kirk has finally come out. And we have the story from CBS News. Erica Kirk has one word for Candace Owens, who has been peddling conspiracy theories about her late husband. She said, stop. In the town hall set to air Saturday at 8:00pm CBS News Editor in chief Barry Weiss asked Charlie Kirk's widow what she wants to say to Owens and others who are making unfounded claims about his assassination. Stop. That's it. That's all I have to say. Stop. Owens used to work for TP usa, the conservative youth organization. This we all know. We understand. Now we have a response. Candace Owens has basically said no. They go on to say that Eric Kirk talks more about her husband. So it's going to be airing later. Candace Owens is saying her direct response was that Erica Kirk said, stop lying. That was the question. And so Candace says, be more specific. What am I lying about? And it's funny because she pledged before that she would stop if Erica Kirk asked. So this is a grift. She's just peddling this for attention. And it's nonsense. And I do fear again to all those. I know a lot of people out there saying this is stupid drama. Who cares? What I care about is a tainted jury pool. And when they actually start to bring jurors in and they are asked, do you think Tyler, like, have you heard anything about Tyler Robinson? Yes, I have. And what have you heard? I heard that he's innocent. Candace Owens says it was the military that did it. That's going to taint the jury pool. And I almost wonder if she's doing it on purpose.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, there's, there's a lot of people out there that say things like, oh, you know, it's okay for people to ask questions and stuff. And fair enough, it is okay for people to ask questions. But Candace isn't just asking questions. She's implying things. First of all, she's bringing up the FBI. And this is a Utah case. Right. Like, this isn't, as far as I know, this is not a federal case. This is being tried in Utah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it's Utah prosecutors.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So it'd be states. It'd be the state police and the state DA that are actually handling it. The FBI was there to support, but the FBI isn't actually doing the case. There's just so many Holes in everything that she says, and it's totally ridiculous.

[Tim Pool]

Let me play this clip. You can hear what she said.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I already had this business. I was already at top of the chart. Okay. I said I wasn't gonna talk about it. I actually did because it's so ridiculous. Okay. But she says I'm lying, and Eric corresponds. And her answer to what do you want to say to the podcaster Candace Owens, who is lying is stop. So Erica would like me to stop lying, and I would like to honor that. Okay. I can only honor that if Erica is more explicit in terms of what I have lied about.

[Tim Pool]

Shocker.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

What did I lie about?

[Tim Pool]

Well, we can start with that when she said, quote, the shooting that Tim survived was committed by his brother. We can start there. You lied about that. Now, four. Fine. That's not about Charlie. That's about me. But you're a liar who makes things up all the time. How about when you claimed that? I don't know. The easiest one, most recently, was that E4s and E5s were lieutenant colonels. They're not. I think it's 06. I'm not. I'm not. But. But is it 06?

[Phil Labonte]

I think an 04 is a major. Oh, five would be lieutenant colonel. I think.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, five.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

See, I don't actually know, but I certainly know the difference between E and O enlisted in officers. And. And she doesn't. She has lied quite a great deal. And here's the thing. The game she's playing is. I'll start here. I have seen text messages. There are several conservatives who said Candace Owens was going around in the few months before Charlie was assassinated saying she hated Charlie Kirk. That is true. That is true. I have seen the texts. Now, the issue is, did she actually say it? Well, these people are going around behind the scenes being like, this is what Candace Owens told me. Candace is playing this game where she's saying, I got a tip from the military. This is proof. Well, clearly she didn't, because this guy didn't know what an officer was. Is it true that Candace got an email? Probably. And then she takes that email without vetting it, without fact checking it, and reports whatever it is as truth and says, I didn't lie. I told you. I got an email that said this. That's the game she's playing.

[Phil Labonte]

It's the same. Like I said, she's just making these implications. She just pulls any kind of garbage out of her, whatever, so that way she can continue the grift because she doesn't answer Questions. She's always got people hanging on the ledge. People can infer their own ideas from the things that she says and people eat it up because it's just gossipy, you know, a true crime craft.

[Brett Cooper]

Do you think this will have strong implications?

[Tim Pool]

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[Libby Emmons]

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[Libby Emmons]

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[Sarah Stalker]

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[Libby Emmons]

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[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, 100%.

[Libby Emmons]

I think that the, I think that the. There was a hearing today. It was the first time that Robinson was in court and it was really interesting to watch. There was a lot of legal jargon and I was with my team and we were like, okay, what does that mean? What does this mean? And we were trying to figure it out. But one thing that was really important to both the defense and the prosecution. And so you have the defense, the prosecution, and then you have two lawyers in there that are represented media, right? Two different groups of media that are in there saying like, we need access. This is a one, a situation. And so they're all negotiating different things, dates and what's permissible and media access and all of these things. And one of the things that was true for all three of those groups of attorneys was that they were all saying that the trial needed to be very clearly transparent and fair. That was the key thing. And pretty much everything they were arguing about was how to ensure that, that the trial was as just and fair as possible. And that's their biggest concern with having media in there with all of this talk that they had about what's classified as a witness.

[Tim Pool]

But the question is, are the manipulations and lies from Candace Owens going to affect the outcome later on?

[Libby Emmons]

I think anything that jurors hear ahead of time is going to impact it. We see that with past trials as well. Like if there's the more publicity, I mean, I think that we can be worried about the Luigi Mangione case, Mangioni case as well, because you have all these people out there just being super Supportive of the alleged killer as opposed to looking for justice. They're looking for all of these reasons why he's not.

[Brett Cooper]

The guy reminds me of during the. George Floyd during the Derek Chauvin trial when they wanted to change a venue and they didn't get it.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, they didn't get it. And then you also had jurors after the fact saying that they didn't necessarily believe that Chauvin killed him, but they thought that he wasn't, like, compassionate enough. You have had cops come out after that saying the knee hold or whatever it is was standard police procedure. And Chauvin followed it. And the cops have come out and been like. So police brass essentially lied when they said that he wasn't supposed to do that. That was part of our training. And there was a lot of stuff in the Chauvin case where ahead of time, you even, I think, had the. I think you even had like the governor being like, this guy has to be convicted. You had a lot of people being like, this guy has to be convicted. Even Joe Bide Biden, I think at the time was demanding that Chauvin be convicted before he'd seen the evidence. And it was all just prejudicial.

[Tim Pool]

And then the judge said that it was impossible to have a fair trial, but they wouldn't move. And I think that's grounds for total dismissal. Instead, they had a biased jury that came in at surrounded by men with guns as rioters burnt down the city, and they were supposed to give an honest assessment of what actually happened. What I absolutely love about the Chauvin trial was when the police testified from. It was actually the defense that brought this up the continuum on the use of force. They said that Chauvin was actually entitled, based on the resisting of arrest from Floyd, to use a Taser to escalate from a physical restraint to an impact weapon and chose not to. Which clearly shows that he limited the use of force against George Floyd.

[Brett Cooper]

That have been. Because he was saying that he was having trouble breathing and the use of a Taser would be.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. He could have taken.

[Brett Cooper]

I'm saying. Is that why he probably chose not.

[Tim Pool]

To rather than no, because he should have. George Floyd was physically resisting arrest when. When Chauvin arrived. This is a guy who fought his way out of a vehicle and according to police training, he could have drawn his taser and shocked him.

[Brett Cooper]

Oh, he. And instead he had problems breathing after he was already in the car.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. Right. Yeah. And then he fought his way out and Chauvin opted For a leg. A leg on the neck, restraint on the neck, slash back. You know, it's a. It's. It's. You know, and they still said he was guilty. Because if you're in the jury and you walk into the building surrounded by a bunch of guys with guns as people are burning the city down, and what was it? What case was it where the. The pig's head was sent to the person's house?

[Libby Emmons]

I forgot about that one.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know if that was Chauvin.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I don't remember.

[Tim Pool]

Or, like, Rittenhouse or something. But, yeah, the jury gets the message. And the judge. The judge was told they need to move venues, and he says, there's nowhere in the state where you'll get a fair trial.

[Brett Cooper]

The media is poisoning the well on Mangione, too. Remember? I just literally. Tim, I sent you a message the other day about, like, there was an article on TMZ that just called him the killer, rather than putting alleged in front of it, which they should be doing until he's prosecuted anyways.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So now you have, like, the story that I told where I met three young men who said, you know, what do you think?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it was an expert witness in the Chauvin trial.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he had a pig's head. A pig's head, yeah. At his home. Right. Message loud and clear. And then I met these three young guys. They're Gen Z. And they believe everything Candace said. They were like, israel killed Charlie Kirk. That. That's. And they were like, that's what you. They said they believe Candace. And this is the narrative that she has created. So her show getting as much viewership as it does, these people are going to be called to testify or they're going to be called to the jury, and they're going to have a very difficult time finding an untainted jury pool, because they're going to be like, I heard it was Israel. What about the Bush? And they'd be like, there's no bush. Like, what about that secret underground hatch? And they're like, that doesn't.

[Libby Emmons]

That.

[Tim Pool]

You're talking about a control panel. They're going to be like, but what about the Egyptian airplanes? And they go, that's not real. Okay, this jury's out. This juror is out. And it's going to be a ton of them. And then the worst thing, some of them will just lie because their attitude is going to be, I have to take this into my own hands to expose them. And Candace Owens already said she thought that Tyler Robinson was innocent. So here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Do you really think that. I feel like a lot of this is on X and in Candace World, average people on the street, it hasn't made it to the level of riots in the street. When you, when you're comparing the cases, the George Floyd case, it was, it was present in the streets everywhere. Riots. It was all over every news channel. I feel like some of this is in podcast and X World and maybe average Americans that might be called for the jury pool actually haven't heard about any of this.

[Phil Labonte]

I think if you're outside of Utah, that might be the case. But I think that in Utah, which is obviously the jurisdiction, I think that people are probably acutely aware of it and they're, they, I imagine they're more, you know, they're more receptive to, to the, the media that's going on. Not, not saying that you're wrong, but I think that. I think you're right in, you know, other places as it gets further away. But in Utah, this is, you know, Utah is not the most populous state specifically in, you know, it was in, in the Salt Lake area. I mean, it's a fairly, it's, it's, it's a fairly small community. And I think that people are pro. What, Utah County.

[Tim Pool]

When I. Yes. Just. Okay. When I, when I finish, I just.

[Phil Labonte]

I think I, like I said, I think you're, I think you're right nationally, but I imagine in Utah, where they need to find the jury, it's probably a little more cute.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's going to be saturated in Utah because these are people who are searching for it. So who has done a show consistently talking about this more than anybody else? Candace Owens. And so I imagine the people in these communities are going to be going online and looking more into it because they're being affected by it and they're going to find the one show that keeps doing it. But more importantly, part, part of the breaking point for me was when I bumped into three random Gen Z guys and they were like, candace says Israel's trying to kill her and they killed Charlie Kirk. And I have to be like, let me ask you a bunch of questions. And then it turns out they believe a bunch of D range nonsense. So, yeah, it's absolutely reaching normies. These are not kids who watch the news. These were young guys just out on a Friday night that, that's how widespread her stuff has become. And she brags about it. She brags about it. Let's jump to the story from news a week this is the major breaking news. Charlie Kirk's accused killer, Tyler Robinson smiles in first court appearance. They say Tyler Robinson, who previously appeared only by audio and video feed from jail, entered the courtroom wearing a dress shirt, tie and slacks with restraints on his wrists and ankles. The AP reported that he smiled towards family members seated in the front row. His mother wiped away tears as his father and brother sat beside her. Closed circuit video from the courtroom also shows Robinson smiling and laughing while commenting to one of his attorneys. A state judge is weighing the public's right to transparency against concerns from Robinson's defense defense team that intense media scrutiny could jeopardize his ability to receive a fair trial. I think that's a silly prospect. I also think there's something particularly telling in all this. Why hasn't his parents come out and claimed he was innocent? Has that happened? Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

No, they have not. They haven't said anything. And they have been speaking with him virtually, and they have, you know, they haven't said anything publicly. I think they might be under a gag order. But even so, if it were my son and he was innocent and I was under a gag order, I would go to prison screaming for his innocence.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Didn't his father turn him in? Am I.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, yeah, I mean, if you. That's exactly right. So the day after Charlie was killed, the FBI released the surveillance. Surveillance video. There was some internal discussion in Utah as to whether that video should be released. And in fact, his mother and father were able to recognize him from the video. And the sheriff in. What is it, George County? Is that what it is? Where Robinson is from, gave a whole press conference about exactly what went down. And so the parents had recognized him. They called him, they tried to get in touch with him. They said, you know, why don't you come home and we'll talk about it. He didn't live with them, but, you know, come back to the childhood home. They talked about it, ended up contacting a friend of theirs who was in law enforcement. This is all from the sheriff's press conference. They ended up contacting a family friend who was in law enforcement who helped them facilitate turning him in and the conditions by which he would go turn himself in. And among those conditions were that his parents could stay with him the whole time until the. The police and the jurisdiction were able to come get him. So he sat with his parents for three hours in that sheriff's office, and the sheriff didn't qu. Question him, didn't do anything. They were just waiting for the jurisdiction police to come down and Pick him up, which they did. But, yeah, the sheriff was very clear exactly what went on. And in fact, in that press conference, part of why he was giving that press conference was to explain that one of his former deputies or something, who had the same name as the law enforcement friend of the family was not the guy. He was like, stop harassing this guy. This was not the guy. And, yeah, that's. That's what happened. And since then, his parents have been silent. They've been communicating with him virtually. And today it was reported that they were actually his parents, plus another relative were in the courtroom. And at a certain point, the judge said, you know, we're going to close to press right now, and we'll bring press back in a little, but we're going to close right now so that we can talk about some different security matters for this case. And the. I think it was the prosecutor stood up and said, you know, his family is here. Can they stay for this? And the judge said, no, they can't stay. And so there were reports on Twitter from Brian Enten, who's a reporter, and he was saying he was in the courtroom, and he said, now his mother's out here in the hall crying, you know, and she's just out here with the rest of us. Yeah, so. So it's pretty crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Candace had stated that she. She thought Robinson was. Was innocent or something that effect. And I. I think, you know, it's been a while since you talked about it, but that is, his parents didn't actually turn him in or something to that effect. She has questioned the official narrative, and there are a lot of people that believe the parents actually didn't turn him in, and none of this is true. But the parents were sitting right there. They've not come out and said, our child is innocent or anything like that. No, they have every opportunity to do that. And that's something typical that happens in defense when someone's family member is being prosecuted, but they're not. Right. Have we. Have we learned anything about what their defense is intending to say?

[Libby Emmons]

No, we have not. They have been pretty closed about it. They're really intent on keeping cameras out of the courtroom, and they're really intent on.

[Tim Pool]

But he's actually pleading not guilty.

[Libby Emmons]

He hasn't entered a plea yet. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

This is weird.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. I mean, I don't. If. If it were my kid and I believed in his innocence, like, you know, you guys are parents, you'd go to the mat, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's. I mean, I think it's gotta be devastating for the. You know, I have grace feelings of grace for everybody involved in this and I feel badly for his parents.

[Phil Labonte]

For anyone that's not conspiracy minded. The evidence that you. That is publicly available makes you say yeah it was probably that kid. Obviously you have to wait for the court case and obviously things can come out in the, in the trial and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

But.

[Phil Labonte]

But unless you're the kind of person that is already incredibly skeptical of the government and incredibly skeptical of the official narrative and you don't have ulterior motives, this is kind of like. Yeah, I mean it looks like the kid did it. You know, the parents turned him in, got these emails and or these, these text messages.

[Libby Emmons]

There were also discord messages that he gave that he sent to his like gaming friends.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there was talk about it prior to.

[Libby Emmons]

There were always.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there's always.

[Libby Emmons]

There were the text messages to the Lance Twigs.

[Phil Labonte]

To think that, to think that it wasn't him or to be so strongly. To believe so strongly that it wasn't his him to say we have to find, you know, find the real killer and we need to ask all these questions. You have to be incredibly conspiracy minded and you have to be generally too online to your point.

[Libby Emmons]

There's also kind of this thing of like Charlie was so big, right. He was such a big thought leader in this movement. He touched everybody's lives. He held so many people together who adored him and maybe didn't like each other. And so to think that like some twerpy, you know, lots of things I won't say on air kid just could take someone like that down. It is kind of hard to believe that just because just of like the stature it's such a, you know, like, you know, you know, anyone is. But anyone is vulnerable to something like that.

[Tim Pool]

You know what really fascinates me? The people who follow Candace are willing to believe the French Foreign Legion and Israel are trying to kill her, but not that a crackpot leftist killed Charlie Kirk. Right. We literally watched video of Tesla's burning. Yeah. Of people getting out of vehicles. Like there's a video of a car on a highway speeding up in front of woman slamming his brakes on getting out and screaming at her because she's in a Tesla. We've seen news reports of Tesla's unloaded upon. There is video of a man walking up to a Trump supporter and yelling. What do you say? Like we got one here or something like that. And then he puts two bullets in the chest of Aaron Danielson.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that's Right.

[Tim Pool]

And so when we find, when we. When there's a shooting at a university and Charlie is speaking and quick work. They find a suspect with leftist sympathies, a trans boyfriend, and these chats from leftists and trans people online saying something is going to happen to Charlie. It's like, wow, there's a preponderance of evidence here. Let's see what, what else they present in trial. And there are people going, nah, I can't believe that at all. But the French Foreign Legion, Emmanuel Macron, and Israelis are currently out to get Candace.

[Brett Cooper]

Well, people were primed from COVID to not trust government narratives on just about every level. And it kind of ties in also with a lot of distrust with the FBI right now, because people didn't think, don't think Cash Patel is doing. Doing the job he's supposed to be doing. So you can't have a movement that's been unbelievably critical of official narratives for such a long time and not expect something like this to eventually come to a head and go off the rails at a certain point. I think it was. I think it was fodder. I think it was perfect timing when.

[Tim Pool]

When, when we had this incident Saturday morning, there were people tweeting that the shooting, before any information came out. They were saying that it was because Milo was speaking the truth and they were trying to stop us. Not a joke. They were tweeting that Milo came on the show and he was speaking the truth and so someone was sent to stop them. It is actually really simple. Our security reported a gray sedan had been circling the building all day and they were keeping an eye out. And then a similar vehicle, similar looking vehicle opened fire around midnight. It is scary to realize that one crazy person who has a legal weapon and knows where you are can end you, be you famous or otherwise. Why is it so hard to believe that Tyler Robinson is the person?

[Phil Labonte]

It's actually not. That was kind of my point earlier. It's not hard to believe. You have to be motivated to not believe it, or at least to be like, no, this is definitely not it. We need to find the real truth. You have to have a motivation. And to your point, Brett, the real damage from COVID is that people just don't believe anything. There were so many people that in the beginning of COVID they got taken. They were like, you know, everyone believed that Covid was. Was going to be the end of the world and it was going to be the new pandemic that really, you know, killed billions and billions of people and all of this stuff. And so there's a lot of people that are just like, I'm not going to get taken again. So if the government says it, it definitely isn't true. And again, it doesn't matter that it's not actually the FBI doing the investigation, that it's the state of Utah. It doesn't matter. It's the authority and the people that are motivated to say, I don't believe the authority, no matter what they tell me, they're definitely lying. And the, and part of this, to your point, again, like I said, like you said it, the problem, the. It rests with the government. It's because they were on. Actually deceptive to the American people about COVID When people were like, oh, you can't go to the, you know, you have to stand six feet away from people, but it's perfectly fine if you're out protesting for George Floyd. People were just like, man, this is all bs and rightly so.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

You know, I think the bigger problem is people can't critical think. And so I wonder what this age range is of people a, that were taken during COVID you know, tricked during COVID and now woke up and are angry. And then I wonder of the people now that are online that are so gullible in believing everything and anything and following it, is that the younger generation, it's because of the lack of education and the ability to critical think. You know, we, we've seen that happen over the last five years.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think you're wrong, but I do, honestly, I think that. I think you're right. It's. It is the gullible people, and there's a certain amount of ego that goes along with it. If you're, if you're a little below average of intelligence, you definitely don't want to think that people are smarter than you. And you want to sit and you want to be able to say, look, I'm actually smart. I know the real stuff. And you see it all over the Internet. People that are just like, you're dumb because you believe this. I, I'm the smart one. And you, you can. I mean, I see it in my, in my mentions all the time. People, they don't just say, nah, man, that's wrong.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Phil Labonte]

You're an idiot. I'm so much smarter than you. I'm better than you. And it's a ton of ego. It's an ego boost. It makes people, it makes people feel good about themselves to say you're dumb. And I'm the one with the special, special knowledge, the insider knowledge, because I watch Candace Owens, it almost makes you.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Wish for my life. Like people in my life that participate in my life, that they don't quite say it that derogatory, but they say, you'll see, you'll figure when you figure it out, let me know when you learn, when you understand. And I'm like, oh, good grief.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, we do have, we do have a sort of feeling in our culture that there's always, it's like, I often think that America is a place that is so addicted to the concept of authenticity that we're constantly trying to peel back the onion to find the real thing. What's the real, what's the real thing? And maybe it's because we're a young country and we don't have the kind of ancient thing where like if you're doing a public works project in Greece, you have, you start digging and then you're like, damn it, ruins. Oh, you know, like now I have to, now it's a historical site and we have to put the public things somewhere else. You know what I mean? My uncle had a bnb in Crete and he used to make this, he and my aunt. And he's since passed, but he used to make this joke that if you find ruins in your backyard, chuck them over the fence in your neighbor's yard so that it's their problem, you know, you don't want the ruins at your house because then you have to stop work or whatever. But I think we're hooked on this idea that there's always something deeper and something more nefarious going on. And, you know, sometimes, sometimes that's just not what's happening.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this next story and get serious with these midterms. We've got this from media. Indiana Senate votes against Trump backed redistricting plan. Surprise, surprise. Let's pull up this tweet actually from Tony Cook. He says breaking Indiana Senate votes down redistricting bill breaking with President Trump. And you can see the nays 31, the yays 19. And I have this, this clip here from Greg Price. He says Indiana Senate Majority Leader Chris Garten just gave a fiery speech in favor of the nine zero map. Some will say these maps are political. Let me be clear. You're damn right they are. Political policy is political. Safe streets are political. Look at Indianapolis. Affordable electricity is political. A drug free Indiana is political. Peace in the Middle east is political. I dealt with it firsthand. If drawing a map that secures Two more seats for the Republican Party means that we continue to see overdose Deaths drop by 20%. Then I'll draw that map every single day of the week and twice on Sunday. If drawing a map means that we'll continue to see a 93% drop in illegal immigration, and I'll sign it with a smile on my face. We're not here to be neutral arbiters of decline. We're here to be active agents of American greatness. Wow. So I ask you. I Wish I had 2% of the fiery passion and charisma that man has.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm riled up.

[Libby Emmons]

I want more of that.

[Tim Pool]

We got this from Tyler Bowyer at Turning Point. It says Turning Point action will be publicly endorsing opponents of the state senators who voted against the redistricting today. They thought we were bluffing? No. We will educate voters and throw thousands of volunteers and staff at their local districts. Let's go. And real, real quick, I just got to shout out that Chris Garten once again. Man, that guy needs to run for. For the Senate or something. I'd like to see that guy in federal politics, but, you know, I respect him fighting for us, for his state. That's. That's. That's beautiful.

[Phil Labonte]

Libby, you were saying earlier they have a super majority in Indiana, and they still didn't make it. Right?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. 19 Republicans voted against this, and they all should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. You have the entire Democratic Party working so hard to do all kinds of really stupid, stupid things, flood our nation with illegal immigrants and trans our kids and, you know, push DEI in schools, even though it doesn't actually do anything positive for the kids, it just makes everything worse, literally.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, if people are. People are upset about Nick Fuentes. DEI is why Nick Fuentes exists.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, yeah, because the thing is, like, I was just. Tina and I were just talking about this before the show. There was this educational hearing in the Kentucky state legislature, and you have this one state senator being like, hey, we got to get rid of DEI in schools because all of our kids are failing everything thing, and our discipline problems. And everybody else is like, but there's discrimination. And so this is. We have to fix it. And it's like, okay, first of all, maybe there's discrimination at this point. I don't really think there is. You know, they're all living 50 years ago in some sort of time capsule. And then the other piece of it is, just because you've identified a problem doesn't mean that the proposed solution is the one that's Going to fix it. Like, you're idiots. You know, like, just because you think, like, oh, there's this issue. There's discrimination. Actually, you know, what they believe is being discriminatory. They're sort of circa 1960. They don't really identify what's going on. They live in their own stupid bubbles.

[Brett Cooper]

You're channeling this energy now.

[Libby Emmons]

I was writing about this lady last night. Sarah Stalker from Kentucky is a complete and total moron, and she should be ashamed of herself. She went out there on the state legislature and she was like, I don't like being white all the time. And children need to know about their historical privilege. No, they don't.

[Tim Pool]

Idiot.

[Libby Emmons]

Don't go around telling children that there's something wrong with them because of the color of their skin. That's racist. That gif of the kid. That's racist. That's racist. Yeah, you fool.

[Phil Labonte]

And I saw the Sarah Stalker clip. I actually put it in the IRS slack.

[Tim Pool]

Let's grab it.

[Phil Labonte]

Cernovich was talking about it, and I watched the whole. Here, I tweeted about it, and I was like, this is why so many people, so many young white men think that Nick Fuentes is compelling. Because you're telling them that they're evil by nature of their skin color. And then you have public policy that is literally oppressing them, that is ostracizing. That is that you're keeping them out of colleges. They're not getting jobs. They're not getting. They're not, you know, going out and meeting girls. What do you think is gonna happen when you tell an entire generation of young men that they are inherently evil? They're going to coalesce around the thing that makes them all the same, and that's their white skin.

[Tim Pool]

The bigger picture I see here with the Indiana Senate is that people are begging Republicans to do anything. Yeah. And Republicans are begging them to accept them doing nothing. So the Republicans are getting very little done. And now in Indiana, where they have an opportunity, they're basically doing nothing. So if you want to get people to come out in the midterms and rally, I understand. It's like the last two months of the race that really matter most and right now will be forgotten within a few months. But you better do a lot more than this, because it seems like they're trying to lose.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. California, Gavin Newsom, he got his whole Prop 50 passed. They're going to eliminate Republican seats essentially in the state. You had all of these states in New England being like, we're going to redistrict too. And it's like you're already entirely blue. You know, you like, redistrict. What? I was.

[Phil Labonte]

40% of New England voted for Donald Trump. And those people have no say at all.

[Libby Emmons]

I was back. I was back visiting family outside of Boston just over Thanksgiving, and I was talking to them about it and they were like, yeah, we don't have a vote. We're not represented at all.

[Tim Pool]

I feel, you know, I feel really bad for, like, the worst. The team over at 270 to win because, you know, they have this election tracker map for the House and the Senate and the presidency every election. And it's going to keep changing because everyone is redistricting now to try and gain advantages. So it's going to. Here's the amazing thing. You can see that there's 185 deep red and there's 167 deep blue. And then there's a gradient in between. It's going to turn into a solid red and blue line.

[Libby Emmons]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

That's the plan.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And the reason why I say I feel bad for them is because they're gonna have to keep updating their code.

[Brett Cooper]

It's important.

[Tim Pool]

Like, yeah, it's like one IT guy. And they're like, not an IT guy, but like a software dev guy. And they're just saying, hey, look, another state's redistricting. It's like, I'll go fix it. It's like, I'm gonna change everything again.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm not checking the squiggly lines.

[Tim Pool]

Here's what I find really interesting, actually, is I want to pull up. Let me see if I can pull up the prediction market here. Let's see. Let's grab. Which party will win in the House from Kalshi. So we've got this from Kalshi. Currently, the Democratic party is at 74% favorability to win control of the House in the midterms. But as each state does or does not redistrict, it's going to cause massive swings in their prediction market. It. This is going to be interesting if people are accounting for it. Now, Indiana just said no Democrats should tick slightly upward. They don't want to redistrict. I've got this here. Let me, let me pull up. Where did I just put that thing? Here we go.

[Libby Emmons]

You think Jasmine Crockett will win in Texas when the Senate.

[Tim Pool]

No way. If they. You don't think so Weirder happens.

[Libby Emmons]

Running for Senate now instead.

[Tim Pool]

Check this out. Current midterm redistricting status. California D + 5 Utah, D + 1. You've got pending Democrat redistricting. Virginia, D + 2. Maryland D + 1. And then you've got confirmed Republican with Texas, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, North Carolina for 11 new seats and pending. You've got Kansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Florida. A total of 10 possibilities. The potential total is gonna be Republican plus 21 and Democrat plus 9. This is crazy. Basically every state now has decided to, in the middle of the decade, redistrict to try and win the midterms. Civil War much?

[Libby Emmons]

I think it makes sense, though, because you had the census and, okay, that's fine. But then Biden imported, what, how many? Like, 10, 20 million illegal immigrants. Just let everybody in, distributed them all over the country on free flights. No one even knew that these people were showing up in their communities until they were just there giving them all kinds of money and free phones and whatever else. And then work authorizations after 180 days letting. And then also, what else did he do? He eliminated. He just dismissed, like, some 70% or something like that of asylum cases. So there's all these people who were seeking asylum, and now they're just in the country. They have no legal status. They, you know, don't have to leave. So what are they doing there? Well, they're beefing up Democrat numbers in these districts, so it kind of makes sense for all of these places to be like, listen, you dumped. You dumped heaps of new people on us who can't vote, but who we're supposed to try and represent, and now we have to kind of change things. I think that, you know, I agree. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

I also just think I don't want to go back to a time where we're forced to get medications, can't go out and eat unless we wear two masks. So I'm willing to just vote Republican, even if they are just like a turtle in the middle of the road slowing your car down.

[Libby Emmons]

My favorite was Alyssa Milano's crocheted mask.

[Brett Cooper]

Yep.

[Libby Emmons]

And how she had to. How she had to act like she didn't. How she had to act like she knew it didn't actually protect anything. She was like, no, I. I knew that it had holes in it. Yeah, it was. I knew it.

[Tim Pool]

Crocheted.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it was crocheted. It was a picture, a selfie of her and her husband and their kids in their car. And they all had, like, normal masks. And she was like, mine is pretty.

[Tim Pool]

Let's. Let's pull up that video we've got this year from Rep. Sarah Stalker. I have guilt every day for Being white and kids should. To children.

[Sarah Stalker]

I'm gonna be honest, I don't feel good about being white every day for a lot of reasons.

[Tim Pool]

That's the biggest one that I get.

[Sarah Stalker]

To move through the world in a way that so many of my other colleagues and friends and family members in the community don't get the privilege to do. And I'm. And I'm just a female, but just a woman. Just a white woman. If, If I was a white man, I would be from a point of even greater pressure, privilege. I think we're missing an opportunity. When kids.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Oh, my gosh.

[Sarah Stalker]

When kids have a moment to reflect about.

[Libby Emmons]

She's trying to put a color of.

[Sarah Stalker]

Their skin does and does not allow them to move through the world. It's running, running to them and trying to stifle that and trying to say, you shouldn't feel bad. So we don't want to. We don't want to ever expose you to something that is going to make you have to pop and have maybe some internal feelings. It's a missed opportunity for some really good dialogue.

[Tim Pool]

Have you noticed how she keeps whistling on her S's?

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, I was wrong, by the way. 21 Republicans voted against, 19 voted for.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, I thought it was more than in that story. It shows 31 nays, 19 yays.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay, well, someone from my team was just like, you were wrong.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

So.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, was it like Bill to quash this or something? I don't know.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

So anyway, this video that you posted, Libby, is it slightly different?

[Libby Emmons]

I think it's a longer one, but I have another one. Here, let me give you the.

[Tim Pool]

She said more.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

No, no, please, please don't make me watch anything like that again. Listen, we cannot have someone like that and her people in charge of this country again. You're talking about the midterms. You're talking about redistricting. I'm sitting over here. I'm thinking about what happened in my state of Miami this past week with their mayor election.

[Tim Pool]

How did that happen? A Democrat won in Miami.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Did you see this? Wasn't it that you just said plus 10 and 4, plus 5 or 10 seats in Florida? Like we are. We have over a million Republican voters in our state. Miami hasn't had a Democrat in charge. I don't know, 40, 50, 60 years or something like that. It is crazy. And, you know, I'm listening to people that are having these other off elections in places around the country, and it's. They're losing the Republicans and the conservatives are losing and everywhere. And if we don't get our act together and if the Republicans don't get their heads out of their rear ends and this, I get fired up and I get angry. Very, very angry. Because what they did to kids under the Biden administration, what they did to moms under the Biden administration, we cannot have that woman back in power.

[Tim Pool]

What is this woman's name? Libby?

[Libby Emmons]

Sarah Stalker.

[Tim Pool]

She really helps me understand. Bang, zoom, straight to the moon.

[Libby Emmons]

They're all like this. Though that lady next to her, she.

[Tim Pool]

Still might be the only one old enough to get that. Yeah. Did you understand what I just said?

[Phil Labonte]

No to the moon.

[Tim Pool]

Alice.

[Libby Emmons]

I get. I get Alice.

[Tim Pool]

It was a joke. Implying that her incessant nagging makes me want to strike her.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, I think.

[Tim Pool]

Joke. I don't really want to. It's from the Honeymooners.

[Libby Emmons]

I think that show was a little problematic. And there was probably a lot of domestic violence.

[Tim Pool]

One of the best jokes ever was Futurama. When they go to the moon and the whalers on the moon, they're like, early Earth astronauts were very fat. And he's like, one of these days, Alice, bang, zoom, straight to the moon. No, no, no. And then Leila was like, I didn't realize astronauts are so fat. And then he goes, he's not an astronaut. He was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife.

[Phil Labonte]

To the point about, like, this woman. This is a woman in a position of authority. You know, literally saying people voted for her.

[Tim Pool]

People should.

[Phil Labonte]

Children should feel inherently bad about their skin color.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, we should play this clip.

[Sarah Stalker]

Within jcps, we have a really diverse.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, stop.

[Sarah Stalker]

Body of students. We have 145 languages that are spoken, and we have a really high percentage of kids that are on free and reduced lunch, bro. She's Cobra Commander in the term D, E, I, I. Inclusive. Diversity, equity, inclusion, inclusion. It's about including everyone. White people have never been excluded. What the efforts of DEI is trying to do within a school setting now is to pull in other students. Their stories are relative, their culture, their history. Those things are important to see reflective in the reading material. And if we don't allow those things to come into our text and to come into our conversations in a class, in the classroom and in a constructive way, then we are simply just trying to whitewash things. And I find that to be incredibly problematic.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, yeah, that's it. I'm Saudi Arabia, here I come. Sharia law, all of it. I'm just. Repeal the 19th doesn't go far enough. She has convinced Me. Not only was she doing a vocal fry, but she was also hissing, yes, she's awful. You know what? By all means, everyone now pile on and talk about the things that she said, the merit of her ideas being bad. And then I'm just going to be like, but she was vocal frying.

[Libby Emmons]

She's awful. Everything about her is awful. And that, and that little glasses next to her. She sucks too. She said stupid stuff also. They all said stupid stuff. And in fact, I was going to clip way more of this and then I had to like go do more of my job instead of pay attention to these idiot women. But they're so foolish because they act like they're saying something that is really profound. And they're saying that this woman's solution, getting rid of DEI is bad because of all of their ideological whimsy, but it's founded in nothing. And you had this woman glasses over here, she was like, you know, can you show me some studies, peer reviewed studies or. No, it wasn't her. It was a different stupid woman in this legislature.

[Tim Pool]

More.

[Libby Emmons]

It's all women in this legislature. I don't know what Kentucky is doing wrong, but they're really not sending their best to run this state. You know, they've like just gone way too far in the other direction. And the couple of men that did speak up in this hearing, they were like so meek about it. And I was like, fellas, fellas, grab your balls and stand up.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, listen, it's the testosterone. These guys, they need to take, they did drop trowel and put a red light on their balls to get a testosterone back. That's the only answer.

[Libby Emmons]

They gotta do something.

[Phil Labonte]

I guarantee if men stood up and sounded assertive, these women, these women would say that they are trying to intimidate them, that it would be, it would be all, I don't know what if they were.

[Libby Emmons]

But then they might, yes, then they might fall in love.

[Tim Pool]

I was gonna say, Phil, if these men stood up and talked back, they'd say, you, you. That's what they do.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, possibly, but probably not.

[Brett Cooper]

These guys.

[Phil Labonte]

The people like this, that believe this stuff, if a man were to stand up and say, no, you're wrong and blah, blah, and be in an assertive way, they would see he was being toxically masculine and that would, it was, it was an unsafe environment and they would use all of the buzzwords and these guys would get censured in the, in the, in the Kentucky.

[Tim Pool]

State, I, I legislature, whatever. I know what to do. I want to tell you guys about chickens, but hear me out.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay?

[Tim Pool]

So I'm sure all of you know about the pecking order. You've heard this, right?

[Libby Emmons]

Sure.

[Tim Pool]

It's because chickens, hens, the females, they all create a pecking order, which is they peck at each other and then eventually figure out who's the, you know, the super hen, who's in charge. And then there's a. A hierarchy. Essentially. Roosters kind of have this. People believe that if you put two roosters in the same coop, they'll fight. That's not true. They stay away from each other so long as enough ladies to go around. So the guys will kind of just back off and they'll have their harem or whatever. Now here's the thing. They did an experiment where they said, what happens if we take the alpha hen at the top of the pecking order, another one from a different coop, and we put them all in one coop? Will it create a new pecking order? No. They all murdered each other.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so I'm saying we should take people like her and Elizabeth Warren and the rest of them and create a special legislative body for all of them so they can just scream at each other.

[Libby Emmons]

You could do that. But if you put AOC in there, they'll just all. Then they would create a new pecking order and she'd be in charge.

[Brett Cooper]

Or you let them do that, you don't give them any actual voting power. They just get to argue amongst themselves and it's cathartic. Yeah.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

All right. I have a real solution. Not to plug my organization, but the whole point of Moms for Liberty.

[Libby Emmons]

You have a great organization, though.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Thank you. Appreciate it. I mean, the whole point of Moms for Liberty when we started, and the reason it was titled Moms for Liberty and it was a women's based organization, is because we saw the lay of the land. And men, really, especially in 21 when we launched, it was hard for them to stand up at school board meetings where you have these other women standing there for exactly what you're saying, the optics of what was going on. It was when the Biden administration was like the proud boys this, that like men were really being marginalized. And so in order to combat this woman, you're right, I don't know that you could go stand in there and all your manly self and combat her in a fair fashion because she'll play victim. You'll look like the big mean bad guy. You need another mom. You need a softer, a softer, an equivalent woman in there that can Speak intelligently, that understands all the wrongs that this woman and her people are doing and can combat it.

[Tim Pool]

The issue that I see is that 50 Shades of Gray sold 150 million copies. And now you've got Minotaur Milking Farm, or whatever it's called. Is that Morning Glory Milking thing? Morning, Brett. I don't know why? You know the title.

[Brett Cooper]

We talked about it on the show, everybody. I haven't read it.

[Tim Pool]

I have a great memory, and I still can't remember the title of that book.

[Libby Emmons]

Wait, is this that handmade thing? Have you guys seen the handmade.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no. The Morning Glory Milking Farm is the new bestseller that women love, which is very similar to 50 shades of gray. So if you're not familiar, have either of you. Are you either familiar? I'd imagine you're not.

[Libby Emmons]

I did not read it.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Neither was it.

[Tim Pool]

So 50 shades of gray is a college grad woman with debt. She can't afford to pay it back.

[Libby Emmons]

But it's kind of like Secretary right with James Spader. I did watch that.

[Tim Pool]

She meets a billionaire who puts her in a slave contract where he beats her, and she loves it. And it sold 150 million copies because women loved it. And Morning Glory Milking Farm is basically the same thing. A young woman graduates college, but she can't pay off her debt, so she takes a job at a. At a Glory Hole facility where minotaurs go to get milked by young women. And it's like a best seller. It's massive. And women love it.

[Libby Emmons]

My point is, last time I was on and I was.

[Tim Pool]

The things that motivate women are very different from the things that motivate men. And there's this trope, this. This idea, right? There's the male power fantasy. When you watch a movie like Spider man from the 2000s is a really great example of the male power fantasy. And that is the Green Goblin captures a school bus full of children and Peter's love and just Mary Jane. And he says, what'll it be, Peter? Mary Jane or Suffer the children? And Spider man saves them both. Because that's the male power fantasy. Or like when Spider Man's in the train screaming and, like, he's being ripped apart, but he saves everyone. The female power fantasy is represented in rom coms where the woman trounces about doing whatever she wants and gets whatever she wants in the end. That's the trope. If you watch rom coms, it's just. She goofs off, screws around at work, you know, or she, like, ditches her husband for some new guy she just met. Or there's that new show called Dying for Sex, where a woman who was with her husband for 15 years gets stage four cancer, a terminal diagnosis. So she says, I'm leaving you, and then she goes and bangs 200 guys.

[Libby Emmons]

That's nasty.

[Tim Pool]

These are the shows. And I'm not saying all men are like this. I'm saying so long as you have these macro trends of. We can see what it is that women will generally choose, it is absurd not to think they will generally choose similar things in politics. Now, I am not saying repeal the 19th. I don't go that far. There's a lot of dumb guys, too. I'm saying if we don't recognize the tendencies of female macro patterns, we are going to overlook psychopaths like this lady who burned down the system.

[Brett Cooper]

So what you're saying is to get rid of books like Morning Glory, Milking Farm, we actually do have to cancel student debt because it's always about debt.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. Yes. So make a. Make a new book called, like, you know something. It's something about Zoran Mamdani. And, like, he becomes president, somehow they overturn. Which amendment is it? No, it's actually just in the Constitution. I think it's one of the original articles. They pass a new amendment allowing Zoran to be president. He cancels student loan debt and then has a harem.

[Brett Cooper]

There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

But all the girls of Williamsburg would love that.

[Tim Pool]

I know. I'd make a million dollars. I should write the book. Yeah, I should, actually. That's a really good idea, guys.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

To all the guys out there listening to this right now, AI is your friend. You ask ChatGPT to write you an erotic novel about Zoram Dani canceling student debt. And then you. You put it on Amazon and then make Facebook ads targeting and Instagram targeting specifically Williamsburg. You make a million dollars overnight.

[Libby Emmons]

But what happens when Mamdani rejects the trans women as being part of his harem and he's just trans women in the hair.

[Phil Labonte]

Mom, Donnie. There are people, people out there that swear up and down that. Mom, Donnie is an Islamist. He's not an Islamist. He is only using Islam as a means to avoid being accused of toxic masculinity. He is a leftist to his core. It has nothing.

[Libby Emmons]

We've all seen that little head. That little head nod thing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Has very, very little to do with his religion or with religion at all. It's all about leftism for him.

[Tim Pool]

All right. We got to jump to this next story, which actually I, I don't know that I like we're gonna. I guess because it's in the news, I actually don't know how much I care, but they say mom 58, speaks out an attack at Nick Fuentes's home as he accepts humiliating punishment for pushing her down the stairs. Controversial live streamer Nick Fuendes has been ordered to attend anger management after pepper spraying a woman and shoving her down the steps of a Chicago area home. The far right provocateur was accused of attacking 58 year old Marla Rose in an incident she captured on video after knocking on his door in Berwin, Illinois on November 10, 2024. Fuentes, 27, was arrested and charged with one count of misdemeanor battery 17 days later and was released the same day along with court mandated anger management course fundas must issue a formal apology to Rose in person. Compensator $635 for the cell phone he broke and complete 75 hours of community service before January 23rd. It can't be for white supremacists, Rose quipped in an interview with the Daily Mail, referring to the community service. Court records show that Fuentes accepted the terms on Tuesday, two days before he was due to appear in court. As part of the deal, there can be no further contact between the two. And this is why I chose West Virginia. Now, I think the mistake that Nick made is as soon as she went to the. As soon as she knocked on the door, he opened it and pepper sprayed her. He probably should have just not gone to the door and should have called the police. Yes, I do understand. However, I'm not completely faulting him because people were stalking his home and threatening to kill him. And then a strange person shows up on his front door and he. I think it's fair to say he really didn't know what he was doing.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because certainly if he's accepting this agreement, if he really thought that he was just. Or that he was doing was right, he could have pleaded not guilty. However, in West Virginia, in order for you to access the property we have, we are gated. And if you trespass on my property and something bad happens, I'll just say that we don't deal with this stuff out here. What happened in West Virginia? Yeah, well, let me just remove.

[Phil Labonte]

Violations happen.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no, I can say, I'll put it like this. Let's remove everything and just go into a neutral context.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

There is a. Let's start with New Jersey or we can go Chicago. But New Jersey is a good example. The one of the worst states. A man kicks your door in and screams, I've got a gun and I'm going to kill your family. And then he turns and you are in the kitchen and he is standing there and you have a door behind you that leads out into your alley. If you say, I won't let you do that and shoot him, you have now murdered someone and that is a crime. And you'll be charged with the felony and arrested because you had an exit. You could have ran away.

[Libby Emmons]

That's trash.

[Tim Pool]

You are forced to retreat from your own home in New Jersey. Next up, that's like Canada. We have Maryland. In Maryland, let's say you and your kids are out playing. Let's say you have like 5 acres and your kids are on the front lawn playing. When a man starts walking up and he's got a rifle and he screams, I'm going to kill your family. You are required to run into your home and lock the door and only if the person tries to break in can you respond.

[Libby Emmons]

So why does the criminal have the moral high ground?

[Tim Pool]

Because these states are evil. Then we have West Virginia. Somebody, let's say you're on your property, it's five acres or whatever and someone with a gun steps for your property and says, I'm going to kick. Bang. And they drop dead. The police show up and they say, good job. Now wait, it gets crazier than this. Let's say you're out on your hundred acre property in West Virginia and you've got a gun, it's your property and you see a person on your property walking towards you with a rifle. Legally you can't just kill someone because they're on your property with a weapon. It's supposed to be that you fear, you fear serious bodily harm or an imminent threat even if they're on your property. That being said, in West Virginia, it is not incumbent upon the property owner to determine or to wait for an extreme circumstance. By simple act of a person trespassing and armed, you have a reasonable fear of death. Now, they still expect you to give a warning, but I will just say this as it was described to me. I was told by law enforcement, please don't just shoot somebody walking with a weapon. Because people hunt and sometimes they make mistakes. That being said, there have been many cases where the police have responded to a shooting and there is a dead man with a weapon and a property owner with a weapon and he says this guy was trespassing. He Raised his weapon. I feared for my life. And the officers say, case closed, because what can you do? You can't trespass on someone's property. You were armed. There's no witnesses, there's no statements. So all they can say is, the guy feared for his life. And that's the way it works. Not in Chicago. In Chicago, they're gonna be like, you're going to prison for the rest of your life.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. All those other states, they also don't seem to believe in private property. They're very happy to seize what you've got and give it to somebody else.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Florida's a pretty good place also. Just saying.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but it's starting to turn blue.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Well, maybe Miami's like a whole nother country.

[Libby Emmons]

It was only 22, 000 votes that, that mayor won.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

If we want to take the conversation back to the Republican Party, like, we can go back there, because I have a lot of frustrations with them.

[Libby Emmons]

Do you think the Republicans abandoned Miami?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

No, I think that they. Right now, there's so much infighting. Even my. In my state of Florida, like, the governor is, Is. Has been fighting our House of Representative, like, our House and Senate, like, like crazy. The things that are going on, there's like this underlying divide between people that are supporting Trump type candidates and those that are supporting DeSantis candidates. Like every state, you know, Monster Liberty is in 48 states. And so I'm watching this unfold state after state, South Carolina, between their Freedom Caucus and their non Freedom Caucus. Republicans, they are at war. They are divided and they are fighting. And it's seeping over into all these other conservative grassroots organizations, and it's dividing them. It's happening, like, at the most local levels. It's like, we can't have nice things. We win. We. Now is the time when we should be implementing all these policies and moving forward and. And making gains. And we are in fighting because they're so used to fighting, there's no one left to fight. And so they're turning on each other. And I'm watching it all the time, every day, and it's. I. I don't want to hear you with that woman.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Well, you know, there's one thing back to her.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Sorry.

[Tim Pool]

There's one thing that Candace, And Candace Owens is doing very well. It's helping Nick Fuentes be mainstream.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because she's gone so insane. Nick has now become the voice of reason in calling her and Ian Carol out. And it's actually really funny. Yeah, it's. I actually really Enjoy it. Because Nick's segments calling out these conspiracy psychos, they're actually entertaining. They're very funny. He's a funny guy. And you were saying earlier that, that what's her name? Sarah Stalker.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That it's people like her that made someone like Nick. Yeah. I will tell you partially, but the south side of Chicago makes someone like Nick.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure, sure. I mean, it's not a single issue that's made, you know, Nick into the person that he is.

[Brett Cooper]

I think your point was more that they make people, they make Nick viable by creating people that want to listen to him.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, right. Because Nick became Nick because of the, you know, his upbringing, the way he's lived. You know, all the things that that have happened to Nick are what has made Nick into the person that he is. But people that haven't had the same kind of experiences in, in south south side of Chicago or what have you. Just normal, you know, normal guys that listen to him, they're like, well, you know, I've experienced these kind of, of these, these insults because I'm a white kid. You know, I hear. And, and it doesn't have to be directed at them. Kids that hear that woman talk, they're going to say, oh, she's talking about me and she's talking about my future. And they know that their friends that try to go to college, they don't get into the college they want because they're a white kid or whatever, or they don't get a job because they're a white kid and they wanna hire someone that's not a white guy. These things are very, very tangible to young men. And young men already have to deal with the fact that the economy's rough. You know, it's hard to get a start. You know, young people don't have anything. It's tough to start from zero. So it' already hard for him. So to have people in positions of power and it's not just her. Those same kind of ideas are repeated all throughout the Democrat party. So you're hearing people like aoc, you're hearing people like, people, you know, members of Congress, people in the Senate, they say the same kind of things. So it doesn't matter that this one individual said it. This is the overall narrative that you get from the left. You even hear the late night guys making jokes about, oh, I'm just a white guy.

[Tim Pool]

Ha, ha, ha ha.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, you see it in, in.

[Tim Pool]

In white guy tacos.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. You know, they use exactly that.

[Tim Pool]

Tuna and mayonnaise.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. You know, you See it in.

[Tim Pool]

In.

[Phil Labonte]

What is it in. In comedies and. And sitcoms and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

The.

[Phil Labonte]

The father's always a dopey guy and the mother knows everything. It's the way that specifically white men are treated by society now because allegedly white men have been in positions of power, so now white men can't have nice things.

[Tim Pool]

It's white men's fault. Fault.

[Phil Labonte]

It is.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm so sick of that. Well, sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, no, I mean. I mean, if white men were in power and they decided to allow people to do all of these things, then who's to blame?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, well, I think it's terrible.

[Phil Labonte]

A lot of the people that came up with these, I think, were white men.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

At some point, some dude was like, you know, it's a good idea, women should vote. And here we are.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't think that's the root of the problem.

[Phil Labonte]

At some point they said, you know what? But everyone should vote.

[Tim Pool]

Wrong.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wrong. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

My answer is Jack Posobic.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the important thing. Here's the important thing. When voting was instituted, it was, you know, landowners, it was white men. And this means that most men weren't voting either. Only those who succeeded enough to be able to own property were able to vote. And so the issue isn't whether men or women can vote. I don't think we should repeal the 19th. I think we should introduce a new amendment that says. Or I don't even know. We actually don't even need an amendment to the law. Upon turning 18, you sign up for selective service, male or female, and when you do, they mail you your voter ID card, or they. They mail you like, your registration certificate, which. With your name, which you then bring to the dmv and you'll get like a voter stamp on your id, on your ID or whatever that you can use to vote. And if you don't have it, you can't vote. And I'm not saying people should be drafted. I'm saying you have. Have to at least pledge that should the country fall into a time of need, you will step up in whatever. Whatever means necessary, and you have a right to vote on how that happens.

[Phil Labonte]

They should be test. There should be tests. You should have to. You should have to actually pass a test.

[Tim Pool]

I think the vote. I think my solution is while difficult, yours is way too difficult.

[Phil Labonte]

I want it.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm saying you can't implement it. The idea that, that sign up everyone. Everyone already signs up for selective service men anyway. There's already Democrat pressure to make women do it. As well. And you could very easily be like, oh, okay, so this is how you register to vote.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but you're just going to end up with the same situation where like anyone signs up for selective service and then they're going to go ahead and.

[Tim Pool]

Be, you don't have to sign up for selective service. So what happens is when the liberal goes to some crackpot in the street, says you want to sign up to vote, they'll be like, hell no, I don't want to get drafted.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

No, I think it's a bad idea because the, the more brutish looking acting women might want to do it and those of us that might want to have babies and be wives don't want to be drafted.

[Tim Pool]

I'd rather be. 80% of women will not sign up.

[Phil Labonte]

Now I want a little more starship troopers in my, in my voting. You have to be a citizen and there should be a test. There should be some kind of requirement to become a citizen. You can be a civilian and you can live in the country and that's fine. But don't you. To be a citizen to vote?

[Tim Pool]

Right. Don't you guys remember, don't you remember when there was when Democrats were pushing for women in the draft and all of these feminists started posting videos being like, no, no, no, no. And like I don't want to be a feminist anymore. Like they were like literally the feminism leaving my body.

[Phil Labonte]

The same thing happened when it came to voting. The arguments of the, the, the women that were not suffering non suffragettes or whatever, the women that didn't think that women should vote, they're like, no, then we're going to have to be responsible. Then we're going to blah, blah, blah, blah. They didn't want the response.

[Tim Pool]

This is my point. So, so go to an 18 year old woman and say, would you like to vote? And they'll say yes, just sign up for the draft. And they'll say, yeah, right, I see.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that they would.

[Tim Pool]

Because you think women would sign up for the draft? Because they will.

[Phil Labonte]

Because, because we have a mostly right now, we have a mostly volunteer army. And because most people think the American people wouldn't sit and wouldn't stand for a draft.

[Tim Pool]

I will bet you $100.

[Phil Labonte]

I will take that bet. Yeah, I will.

[Tim Pool]

So let's have a lot going to prove that. A lot's going to go to Times Square, okay. And we're going to have him walk up to random men and women and he's going to ask them to actually sign up for for the draft and be like, will you sign up right now to, to be drafted? And he's going to ask men and women and I guarantee you it's going to be. There has to be.

[Phil Labonte]

But there has to be the, the, the, there has to be some kind of benefit for it. So the vote thing, I've asked them, would they.

[Tim Pool]

I'll give you $5 right now to send it to be drafted.

[Phil Labonte]

No, you have to ask would if it were required to sign up for selective service for the draft in order to vote, would you? Because. And the reason I say that is because right now people think their vote is super important. They have been conned into thinking that voting is this, this amazing power.

[Libby Emmons]

Remember Rock the Vote, Paris?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. MTV destroyed.

[Tim Pool]

So you actually think there'd be more women than men saying yes?

[Phil Labonte]

I think that you would. You had to have most people saying oh yeah, whatever. Because there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam and everybody protested against it. And no, the government's never gonna draft draft people, blah blah, blah. Yeah, I think that, I think that, that people would assume that there would not be a draft. They would assume that there won't be any kind of big full scale war that, that would require drafting.

[Tim Pool]

I think you're overestimate the intelligence of the average person.

[Phil Labonte]

I think no. Well, I'm not saying they're, they're intelligent. I think that they're, I think that they would just say no. It's always going to be a situation, the situation that we've seen, which is people don't get.

[Tim Pool]

Most people are going to say I don't want to be drafted.

[Phil Labonte]

Even guys, I'll bring, I'll bring $100 tomorrow.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I knew that they're going to sign up, but if you're going to do that, you have to find out if they're conservative or lib. If you get 100 women, if you ask 190 sign up or 50 sign up, 60 sign up and they're all liberal. Like you're gonna, if you did that, if that got implemented, I think it would be all liberal women that would sign up.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think liberal women will sign up at all. I think there's like 8% of the population that are leftist. It's probably closer to 15 these days. Cuz it's been like 6 years since they did this poll and they might say yes, the women in that bracket, but most women are gonna go huh? And you're, don't you guys ever watch the whatever podcast where it's like, what country?

[Libby Emmons]

I find the whatever podcast as hard to watch as watching Sarah.

[Tim Pool]

Brian's like, what country are you in? And they're like, Texas.

[Brett Cooper]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But those.

[Brett Cooper]

Those are not representative of the average woman in this country.

[Libby Emmons]

Thank you.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Thank you.

[Libby Emmons]

They might be.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I don't know anyone.

[Tim Pool]

I love the one where the. The. What's her name? Felicity. She's like, she goes, name three countries. And the lady's like, I don't want to do this.

[Libby Emmons]

She can't name country.

[Tim Pool]

She's like, China, Italy and France. And then she goes to the next woman, and the woman goes, canada, Italy and France. And she's like, you can't use the same ones. Pick different ones. And she's like, I don't know.

[Libby Emmons]

There's hundreds and hundreds of countries.

[Tim Pool]

189, I think.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, 189. Yeah. And the funny thing is Somalia on the corruption index is like 179 or corruption.

[Tim Pool]

Are we going to go there now?

[Phil Labonte]

What was it? Someone said that they were going to start investigating. Actually investigating Ilhan Omar about whether her. She.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Trump. Trump has been talking about it.

[Libby Emmons]

No, so she did, like, there was a. There was a report out in the Daily Mail that said she did marry her brother and that she. She divorced her husband. Married her brother. No, no, no. She married her brother in a Christian ceremony because nobody thinks that counts in the Muslim community. So. No. And nobody would know. So they just did that. And it wasn't that she married him for citizenship reasons. She married him so that he could keep. Get student loans. So it was corruption and fraud. It was just fraud. It was government loophole. Oh, that. That government money must be for me. If we just lie, we can have it.

[Phil Labonte]

I really hope that they do investigate and find something and that I would love to see her lose her seat over this. Go to jail.

[Tim Pool]

You mean, just get sent back to Somalia.

[Libby Emmons]

That'd be fine.

[Phil Labonte]

I would love that.

[Tim Pool]

She would get her citizenship voided because the. The law is that if you commit immigration fraud, they can. They can remove. You can be denaturalized.

[Libby Emmons]

And that.

[Tim Pool]

That's.

[Libby Emmons]

That seems pretty fraudulent, marrying your brother in a fake ceremony so that you can get access to government services, you know, and then. And then advocate for the government to forgive those loans. So now you're just stealing. The hell's that?

[Phil Labonte]

Love it.

[Brett Cooper]

You're trying to stop Morning Glory Milking farm.

[Tim Pool]

We got to talk about this. And I'm just going to default to Brett because I have no Idea what's going on, but this is a huge story.

[Brett Cooper]

This is a Kellen story.

[Tim Pool]

You know anybody here? Sports. This is a. This is apparently a really crazy story. It's blow.

[Libby Emmons]

Read this.

[Tim Pool]

Fired Michigan coach Sharon Moore was suicidal after cops were called to his executive assistant's apartment. So my understanding is that he was like. He was cheating. It's like an affair.

[Brett Cooper]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then he.

[Libby Emmons]

With his exec assist. Yeah, apparently.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then stalking her.

[Phil Labonte]

Held a knife to his own. The knife to his own throat.

[Tim Pool]

This is. This is like the real true crime.

[Brett Cooper]

Broke into somebody else's house to threaten his.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, let me read it. Let me read it. Drone Moore, one of the biggest names in college football, threw away his $30 million coaching career in his freedom after getting caught having an affair with a subordinate and then was arrested in the aftermath. Within the span of a few hours On Wednesday, Moore, 39, was fired as the University of Michigan's head football coach and arrested on suspicion of assaulting a woman at the home of Paige Shiver, 32, his executive assistant. This is crazy. The shocking news came just days after Moore had spoken with reporters as the number 18 ranked Wolverines began to prepare for the Citrus bowl later this morning month. And it caught the college football world by surprise. Moore was booked into the Washtenaw county jail Wednesday after a female caller reported he was armed with a knife and had been stalking her for months, According to police dispatcher. Audio obtained by the Post. Male at the location is attacking her. Said he's been stalking her for months. A male voice in the recording can be heard saying in the audio, crazy. The audio also indicated more threatened to harm himself, kill himself during the alleged exchange, after which he fled on foot and was arrested. The dispatcher said the caller reported Moore had brandished a knife before throwing down open and running away. It's going to be at the well Church, 211 Willis Road. Suicidal. Driving a black Chevy Tahoe. Blacked out. The call came from Shivers Ann Arbor address. According to public records. That was not immediately clear if she was the victim. So. So what is this? Like what. What is. What is what? Crazy. Crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

The idea held a knife to his own throat. I heard that's. That's crazy.

[Brett Cooper]

30 million dollar career just down.

[Phil Labonte]

Down the tube.

[Libby Emmons]

Over. Over what? Like lust?

[Brett Cooper]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, man.

[Brett Cooper]

Story is oldest thing.

[Libby Emmons]

It sure is. It's a takedown thing for sure.

[Tim Pool]

So this story is. Is. It's blowing up to the point where I even someone who knows nothing about college football, it's on my radar and I'm seeing people talking about it.

[Brett Cooper]

The betting sites are getting in on this.

[Tim Pool]

They are getting in on it.

[Brett Cooper]

I'm sure they are.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. I think. I think it's actually because this is a high profile, like, drama, true crime affair. It's very salacious and I'm totally at a loss for anything about college football or whatever, but we need.

[Brett Cooper]

We need Chuck in here.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Where is he? Is he here? He can come and explain it to us. Kellen's here. Kellen can come and run over here and tell us what's going on. Um, Head football coach Ron Morgan Moore has been terminated following university investigation. Credible evidence was found that Coach Moore engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. This conduct constitutes a clear violation of university policy. So is that really all he's in trouble for? Like, he got caught having an affair, but, like, was the woman that he was having an affair with, like, breaking up with him?

[Brett Cooper]

So that's his executive assistant. It's crazy to me that $30 million and you throw it away over something. It is kind of like I said, it is a tale as old as time that men in positions of power, they just have a hard time saying no to things like this.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like when Tiger woods kept getting in trouble for banging all those women.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then south park made that episode where they were like, what is causing this wealthy successful men to want to have sex with so many different women. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Shocker.

[Tim Pool]

Quite figure it out. So apparently. Let's. Let's see. What is. What is this? This dispatch audio. Local reports suggest police were called after concerns about his behavior. He threatened to kill himself. But I'm. I. I don't understand. Why.

[Phil Labonte]

Why did he threaten to kill himself?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Busted.

[Tim Pool]

Time.

[Brett Cooper]

I'd like to know timeline. I'd like to line like, of this. It's like, is this already after he lost his contract, he feels like he's got nothing left to lose. I'm sure he's got some money in the bank anyways, but.

[Tim Pool]

30 million? How? Like a $30 million contract. How many years was that for? I don't know. Know. That's crazy. Yeah, People get paid too much for this stuff.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, he was. So he was cheating on his. He was having affairs, an affair. So he's. He was cheating on his existing girlfriend and the whole, like he had a mental breakdown and was gonna.

[Brett Cooper]

I think he had a wife and kids.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, well, there you go. Even worse. So, yeah, he had a mental break. Then he's like, I'll kill myself because he's Crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, man. Well, you know, I'm kind of. It's kind of messed up, but maybe this will be a distraction for the people. I. I was saying for a while I said this recently. When I was younger, all anybody cared about was sports. And I was kind of pissed because all this big political stuff was happening. And I thought, why can't people just care about the important things that are going on? Why don't they care? Now I understand. Now I'm begging these people involved in politics to just go away and shut up, because they have no idea what they're talking about. So it's. You know, how do we bring back sports?

[Brett Cooper]

I mean, sports are still very, very popular, despite what people say. There's a reason I'll be more. So there's a. Yeah. You and I are the only ones who have probably seen those videos. If you're. If you're on here, guys, go look for the hobby.

[Tim Pool]

Hobby Horsing is.

[Libby Emmons]

Libby, Isn't that where you pretend to be riding a horse, but you just have a stick with a fake horse head?

[Brett Cooper]

Just a broomstick.

[Libby Emmons]

Do you know that they also do, like, hobby dog now?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes, yes, yes. With a leash. This is, like, got a shape at the end and they pause. They, like, walk the dog and then they pause and they pretend to pet it.

[Brett Cooper]

We stopped throwing kids in lockers, and ever since then, it's been downhill.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, competitive.

[Libby Emmons]

There's a competitive sport, hobby horse riding. We, you know, we've shown some video over the past couple years.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

This is growing in popularity. Just this past June, Finland hosted its.

[Libby Emmons]

Annual hobby horse championships.

[Tim Pool]

I wanna. I wanna put these people in prison.

[Libby Emmons]

They're crying. Oh, my goodness. Micah Zandstra, who also just organized Bring the Meteor.

[Tim Pool]

You know, my favorite. You know, my favorite thing, though, is the hobby horse dressage. They go like this. I'm not kidding. You know, I saw somebody at another horse event.

[Libby Emmons]

Do they name it a hobby horse?

[Tim Pool]

And I've always loved horses, and I've.

[Libby Emmons]

Ridden real horses, but I've never been able to have a horse of my own.

[Brett Cooper]

That's what it is. It's wealth inequality because they can't afford it.

[Tim Pool]

And I asked them where they got it.

[Libby Emmons]

They said that they made it. And that's kind of how I started.

[Phil Labonte]

The New England Patriots are 11 and 2.

[Libby Emmons]

I just kind of ride in the parks.

[Tim Pool]

I, you know, I live in.

[Libby Emmons]

I live in a condo, so it's kind of hard to ride in the condo.

[Tim Pool]

So I will take my.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

This is really.

[Tim Pool]

You have to really high steps. They're like, I want to see more videos of it. I want to see more Hobby Horsing.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I feel like you're punishing me tonight. Hey, I looked up. I looked up a little more story on your coach here. Oh yeah, you wanted to know how that went.

[Tim Pool]

I want to watch Hobby horsing.

[Libby Emmons]

No.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

The scandal began to spiral out of control.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this guy. Go on.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

He was told to distance himself from her because there was an investigation, because she got a raise from 45, 000 to 90, 000 without a change in job title. He gave her a raise. And so there was an investigation. They said, distance yourself. And then he fired her. So she got mad and she went down and she told them we've been having an affair and all the things. And that's when it's.

[Brett Cooper]

How can you get a 30 million dollar contract and not see that coming? When things go wrong? Is it just ego?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Of course it is.

[Tim Pool]

I think these people should be arrested.

[Libby Emmons]

The hobby horse people.

[Tim Pool]

I think we need to invade Germany.

[Phil Labonte]

Parents should be. The parents should be arrested.

[Libby Emmons]

I think this is as good a reason as any to invade Germany, frankly.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Oh my gosh. Tell me we're not doing that in the United States. Germany, that said Deutschland or something up there. I saw.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh my goodness. Goodness.

[Tim Pool]

And, and, and, and you notice that.

[Libby Emmons]

Lady was like 50.

[Tim Pool]

You notice.

[Libby Emmons]

What the hell?

[Tim Pool]

It's almost, it's almost all women. And. And people are trying to convince me that we. Well.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Oh, no, it's not.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I said almost always. I'm well aware of this young and.

[Libby Emmons]

They just have this stick between their legs. It looks ridiculous. You know, that kid's sexual is what it looks like. It looks.

[Tim Pool]

No, these little toys a little weird. These. Okay, you know, here's, here's the pitch. If you hobby horse, you can't vote. Okay, that's fine.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

All right.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm okay with that. Yeah, I think we're all.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I think, I think you might. We might be able to take a vote here and it might be you.

[Tim Pool]

Now, there was a. There was a viral video of this woman. And she's like panting and on the ground, hyperventil, like, and she's drenched in sweat. And she was like. To everybody who says, hobby horse, it isn't a real sport.

[Brett Cooper]

Those are just made to make you angry. Like, I see those sometimes. It's like I get off X because it pisses me off. And then I go on Instagram and that's there. And I'm Just like, everything's out to get me, bro.

[Tim Pool]

Didn't we. Did we show this to Hotep maybe.

[Brett Cooper]

Like, like, ages ago?

[Tim Pool]

No, no. He was here recently, and I could have sworn he was like, nah, that ain't real.

[Brett Cooper]

It's real.

[Tim Pool]

And he's like, y' all troll.

[Brett Cooper]

See, but this is one of those things where, despite what Phil said earlier, they're gonna look and be like, white people.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, yeah, that's true. They're gonna say that. But, yeah, I mean, look, I can deal with that a whole lot more than, like, white men are evil.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, if you want to be like white people, that's fine. Fine. Because most likely only white people are going to come up with these kind of beats.

[Tim Pool]

Yo, check this out.

[Brett Cooper]

Well, no, One day, they're gonna be talking about equity in Hobby horsing.

[Tim Pool]

Meet the LeBron James of Hobby horse.

[Brett Cooper]

Copyright.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Oh, my gosh.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, this is so sad.

[Tim Pool]

What? I don't understand why. What? They're, like, impressed by, you know, what they're saying, right?

[Brett Cooper]

They're like, people run track. What's the difference?

[Tim Pool]

What. What are they impressed by? Like, she was pulling the stick up. Yeah.

[Brett Cooper]

So it's form.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I can't.

[Tim Pool]

I really. I really like when they're a little.

[Libby Emmons]

Knob on the end.

[Tim Pool]

I'm done.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I can't watch it anymore. I will look this way.

[Libby Emmons]

Sort of like it's done. It's very obvious. No, it's a shame, really.

[Tim Pool]

Dressage. I mean, these are good jumps. I'm impressed.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

That's a.

[Tim Pool]

That's a big jump.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Is that what they're getting scored?

[Tim Pool]

Yo, that's like four feet or something. How do they score five feet?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

What are they scored on?

[Tim Pool]

IQ, and it starts at 50. So after you do the jump, you got to figure out which block goes in which shaped hole, and then they. They assess your score. The assumption is all of them are developmentally disabled.

[Brett Cooper]

Well, do you think they fall sometimes and break the horse and they get.

[Phil Labonte]

That's why the. The stick isn't like a full. You know, like, there's probably, like, whatever.

[Tim Pool]

I swear, there's probably a chat being like, oh, hobby horse, stop making fun of me.

[Brett Cooper]

That's because you're not allowed to not like anything. You know, be really funny to make fun of it.

[Tim Pool]

We, like, lose 3,000 paying members, and they were like, we're all hobby horses and whatever.

[Phil Labonte]

And you're.

[Tim Pool]

You're diminishing.

[Phil Labonte]

I think this is honestly, like, the precursor to furries.

[Brett Cooper]

I was going to know. I was going to say I was like on the road to furries. This is a better alternative. At least they're getting some physical activity.

[Tim Pool]

I think this is a, this is the Internet. So what I think happens is if you go back far enough in time, people are buying kids these, these things and the, and the, the five year old pretends like he's on a horse and then they forget about it. Some of these kids really loved running around and pretending like they're riding a horse. However, as you get older, no one's really walking around with these things. Nobody's meeting up for it. It's not socially acceptable. It falls away. Then the Internet comes. Someone creeps a forum talking about how they love hobby horses and then you.

[Libby Emmons]

Feel so you're part of it.

[Tim Pool]

Then people start to trickle into this community and it allows them to coalesce. What would normally be cast into the shadows is now out in the open for all to see.

[Brett Cooper]

See, I want to find like the Republican who gets shunned by this community because it's all leftists. Like there's got to be at least one.

[Libby Emmons]

There might be. I remember when I was in third grade and I didn't have any friends and Mindy and Sarah used to play horses and they would like put the, their, their hands on the, on the ground and then stand on their legs so that their legs were like straight and they would run around pretending to be horses and they were like, do you want to play horses with us? And I was like, okay. And I didn't have any friends, right? And so I played horses with them one day and I was like, it's better not having friends. I'm never doing that again.

[Tim Pool]

So, so Kellen said that espn, one of their top people, is claiming it's racism or something. And this story about Sharon Moore onlyfans model claims ex Michigan football coach Sharon Moore slid into her DMS as it's revealed he attended a Diddy party. Now I'm kind of understanding why this story is a lot bigger. See, I don't, I don't pay attention to college sports or anything like that. I might, you know, regular football I passively will hear about and be like, oh, okay, you know, maybe if it's like something local. And then the super bowl is always fun one, but Diddy party I recognize and only fans and, and, and white supremacy and all those things. So now I can see this is sort of hitting all the marks in, in the culture war and now. Oh, okay, all right, I get it. Basically it's a It's a choose your own adventure of how to be offended.

[Brett Cooper]

Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is one of those stories, unfortunately, it's going to disappear, and it doesn't feel like it's all that big to me.

[Tim Pool]

This. It's actually, I think, one of the biggest stories, like, stuff like this coming.

[Brett Cooper]

They go like, I feel like this.

[Libby Emmons]

This story had big track traffic for everybody today.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, the reason I brought it up is because I'm just like, I don't understand. Like, the story's massive. It was big. Like, I'm not a sports guy, and it was big enough to hide people asking me about it.

[Brett Cooper]

I, Like, I thought that was going to be what was true with, like, the gambling. The. Like, this. Athletes getting caught gambling. Like, oh, yeah, that would be. Because I feel like that has bigger implications for the country. Like, if you want to talk about the idea of elections, we need to know that elections are fair. Well, if you want to talk about all of the people who are into politics who, who, you know, they've sublimated their team sport mentality that came from watching athletics. If you can't even believe that the sports are watching, aren't being rigged in some way, then that has massive implications for me.

[Tim Pool]

Let me pull up this story and tell you about fake news. Let me explain to y'. All. Fake news. This is Fox News. Trump says he will think about eliminating tax on gambling winnings. Fake news, right? Here's. Here's the fake news. I say it again. A bunch of news outlets are reporting that Donald Trump wants to eliminate taxes on gambling winning. That he's thinking about it. What actually happened? A random reporter asked him, and he was like, I don't know. No one's talked about it. We'll see, I guess. And then they reported, Trump is going to think about eliminating tax on gambling winnings. What he said was, we got no tax on tips, got no tax on overtime. Maybe. Maybe there'll be no tax on gambling. But they asked him, he didn't come to them and said, you know what? I'm thinking about eliminating the tax on gambling winnings.

[Libby Emmons]

This is part of that whole thing where journalists, instead of trying to report news, are always trying to make news.

[Tim Pool]

And they did. And now everyone's going, oh, oh, he's gonna lose. You know, I doubt he will.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I liked the thing better when he said, eliminate income tax.

[Brett Cooper]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

I was like, yeah, I am super into that one. That would be awesome.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this. This is really funny. When asked on Air Force One if you potentially nix the tax on gambling. He said, we have no tax on tips, we have no tax on Social Security, we got no tax on overtime, no tax on gambling winnings. I don't know, I'm gonna have to think about that. That, and now they're all reporting that he's thinking about it. It's just this is, this is how fake news operates.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Clickbait. It's a good headline.

[Phil Labonte]

It'd be nice about it.

[Libby Emmons]

All that really matters is, but why?

[Tim Pool]

I mean, Trump gamble.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

He gamble because it makes him look bad.

[Libby Emmons]

I bet he puts money on golf now and then, you know, Think so? Why not?

[Brett Cooper]

Like when he's playing, always bets on himself.

[Libby Emmons]

Why not?

[Tim Pool]

And then as he does, he gives him a stern look and then he just wins every time. Remember when he posted how he got a hole in one, like in his first term? Yeah. Just like completely irrelevant to anything. He was like, I just want everybody know, I'm the President, I got a hole in one. It's like, it is pretty baller.

[Phil Labonte]

Of course it is.

[Libby Emmons]

I actually, I gotta say, I know it's goofy, but I, I like seeing the President out there golfing. You know, I appreciate that he takes the exercise time and that he's passionate about something, that he's got this as a hobby. I think it's good. I think it's, think it's, I think it's kind of cool. I think it's cool that his granddaughter is like awesome at golf. Kai Trump.

[Tim Pool]

I, I always win topgolf.

[Libby Emmons]

I love top golf.

[Tim Pool]

I always win.

[Libby Emmons]

I think they just sold it. Strategy, owned it and I think sold it.

[Tim Pool]

So here's, here's the secret.

[Brett Cooper]

I don't know, probably private equity.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna, I wanna, I'm gonna teach you guys how to win at topgolf. Every time. So here's what happens. Every time we go, everybody always gets the ball and they whack it as hard as they can and it flies off in the distance and just lands in a random spot and they get no points. They get like 2,000 points.

[Libby Emmons]

You gotta aim for the, the thingies.

[Tim Pool]

Well, if you're good enough. You know what I do? I aim for the one right in.

[Libby Emmons]

Front, that little red one.

[Tim Pool]

The little red one. Cuz I can't hit. I can't swing a club for the life of me. And I get it in every time. And you don't get that many points, but you're okay. And with people aiming far down, they keep missing. But here's the trick. On the, on the second round the bonuses appear exactly where your shots were going. And then you get like like 40,000 points for every every red cuz you're bouncing in the purples bonuses. So I end up with like 200k points and everyone else has got like 120. And that's the secret. Now y' all can win at top golf.

[Phil Labonte]

Awesome.

[Tim Pool]

And then you can post on truth about how good at golf you are.

[Libby Emmons]

I've gotten stronger over the past year cuz I started lifting weights like a year ago.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And so now I can hit the yellows.

[Tim Pool]

Oh the yellow one.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

I feel so good about myself so I'm not going to let you make.

[Tim Pool]

Golf is pretty awesome though though. Yeah. I like topgolf.

[Libby Emmons]

I think it's really fun.

[Tim Pool]

Get french fries.

[Libby Emmons]

You bring you a little snack.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Little snacks.

[Tim Pool]

Chilling.

[Libby Emmons]

They have these little donut holes and they bring you like this weird syringe with chocolate in it and you like squirt them into the donut holes. It's weird. Like you could just give me donut holes with chocolate inside. But no, you're making me do this.

[Tim Pool]

Thing you can put on top.

[Libby Emmons]

It's weird. Is that really I thought yeah, chocolate intake. Right. Because when you make cupcakes and you make like, like cupcakes with cream inside, you have to like jam it in there and squirt the filling on the inside the cupcakes before you frost.

[Tim Pool]

I don't, I don't get it. I don't, I never, I don't, I don't.

[Libby Emmons]

Why Like a cream filled cupcake.

[Tim Pool]

Just put it on top.

[Libby Emmons]

You like Hostess? You don't like Hostess? What's the matter with you? Un American. Come on. Tasty cake does the same thing.

[Tim Pool]

It's all nasty.

[Libby Emmons]

They got the little stuff inside.

[Tim Pool]

Doesn't all that stuff have. Yeah, exactly.

[Brett Cooper]

RFK is giving you a side eye.

[Libby Emmons]

Right now or whatever.

[Tim Pool]

Doesn't all that stuff have propylene glycol in it?

[Libby Emmons]

I don't eat it. I just make cupcakes at home and that's how I know you have to like squirt the cream on the inside.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not a big cake fan.

[Libby Emmons]

I like cake.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I like cake. I like cookies.

[Tim Pool]

I like all things, all the things.

[Libby Emmons]

Pie is great too. I mean what? We have to only like one kind of dessert. What the hell?

[Phil Labonte]

Like wait a minute. Why are we choosing?

[Libby Emmons]

What's going on? Have it all.

[Tim Pool]

No, I, I, I don't want to eat cake. Not interested.

[Phil Labonte]

Pie.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Just Pie just spongy weirdness. Pie has, like, fruit goodness.

[Phil Labonte]

The only time cake is on it.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Crusty flake. Like, you got all these different textures. It's. Pie's good, and then great.

[Libby Emmons]

I make this great strawberry cake with strawberry buttercream. It's fork and delicious.

[Tim Pool]

Our female viewership is skyrocketing right now.

[Libby Emmons]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

It's like the numbers. I'm kidding. Numbers are just going up. They're like, tell me more about the pastries you are baking. Listen, I will.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm happy to. When I was. When I was pregnant, I decided I wanted to be one of those moms that bakes, you know? And so I learned how to bake, and now I make a real nice cake. I make a whole bunch of good stuff. I can make one of each thing. I can't make two different kinds of cakes. I can make one kind of cake.

[Brett Cooper]

My wife is. My wife loves to bake.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Yeah.

[Brett Cooper]

More than anything.

[Libby Emmons]

She knows.

[Tim Pool]

Have you ever made a cronut?

[Libby Emmons]

No, I can't do that.

[Brett Cooper]

This whole, like. This whole, like, last couple of months.

[Libby Emmons]

I've always wanted to eat one, but I've never.

[Brett Cooper]

I was saying to my wife, I was like, I want to lose some weight. And she's like, I baked these brownies.

[Libby Emmons]

That's a good way.

[Brett Cooper]

And I'm like, you're sabotaging me, bro.

[Libby Emmons]

I just bought bro.

[Tim Pool]

Did you call your wife bro? Sometimes.

[Libby Emmons]

I just bought cocoa yesterday at the grocery store so I could make brownies because my kid likes brownies and I don't like to buy the box, you know? So anyway, are great box brownies. Brownies are coming.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I've doing the Christmas cookies on Saturday. Oh, it's dozens and dozens and dozens all day long.

[Tim Pool]

You said sugar cookies with, like, icing on them.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

No, I actually don't make any sugar cookies. I make anise cookies. That's the Italian tradition. Oh, they're so good. And Italian tricolor cookies, the flag cookies with the three colors with chocolate.

[Tim Pool]

Actually, my goal in life is I'm doing all of this because I do intend to run for office at some point. And when I become president.

[Libby Emmons]

Is that news? Are we breaking news?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yes, yes, yes. So. So at some point, I will use all power I've. I've acquired to run for office. And once president, I will usurp constitutional authority.

[Libby Emmons]

I like that you're just for president.

[Tim Pool]

Well, of course, because first I have to be president. Then I can usurp all constitutional authority and make myself supreme chancellor so that I can make Anis, fennel, cilantro, caraway. All my favorites.

[Libby Emmons]

Burn it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

All my favorites.

[Tim Pool]

That's right Here. Libby's gonna lead the army?

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

She's gonna. She's gonna be wearing, like.

[Libby Emmons]

I'm gonna get everyone to sign up for the draft based on that.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Is there anyone with me that loves those things?

[Brett Cooper]

I don't like.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Just me.

[Tim Pool]

Possession of cilantro is a capital offense.

[Libby Emmons]

I agree. Capital, I guess.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely.

[Brett Cooper]

I don't even like. Search and seizure laws don't even apply. If they have even a whiff of it, they're like, there's dogs.

[Tim Pool]

Open.

[Brett Cooper]

Just open the trunk.

[Tim Pool]

They open it, there's like, a bunch of pot. And I'm like, nah, it's fine. You're free to go. And then one guy's eating a taco. Get him. The dogs just jump on them.

[Libby Emmons]

I was driving through Southern California last week, and we were driving. It was dark and just reeked of weed. And then when we saw it in daylight the next day, it was like. Because I was. This is gonna sound like I'm bragging, so I'm just gonna go for it. I was with Pete Hegseth motorcade shutting down the 405 and going to check out autonomous weapons factories and the Reagan Library, the Reagan National Defense Forum. And it was kind of cool, but anyway, then in daylight, it was. It was just fields of weed. It was, like, more weed than you could conceive of at once.

[Phil Labonte]

How California.

[Libby Emmons]

It was so California.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I'm gonna send. When I'm chancellor, there's gonna be dudes in suits with flamethrowers, and they're going to walk through those fields with the flamethrowers off until they get to the.

[Libby Emmons]

Cilantro and then just torch the cilantro.

[Brett Cooper]

Then you're going to create a black market for cilantro that's gonna.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Then if you're gonna ban anis, I can't vote for you.

[Tim Pool]

You don't. It doesn't. No. You don't get to vote. I'm gonna be supreme Chancellor. Right?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

You said president first, and then you were gonna.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Well, power.

[Tim Pool]

And the first thing I'm gonna do is I'm talking about how great cilantro is, and I'm gonna be like, I will be the. And then as soon as people vote for me, I'm gonna be like, ha. And I'll take the mask off and. And then I'm going to ban. Oh, Annis is out. Have you ever had a Rocky?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

No. What is that Rocky.

[Libby Emmons]

You mean like the Creighton? Like Creighton from Crete. There's this, like, cre. Moonshine called Rocky.

[Tim Pool]

It's a. It's like. It's a. I think it's Turkish.

[Libby Emmons]

Whatever it is, it's nasty.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

It's a drink.

[Libby Emmons]

It sort of tastes like black licorice. Also, it burns.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. I can't believe you don't know about it because you'll definitely want one. And I. I was. I was in Turkey. So a Rocky is a. It's an alcoholic beverage made from twice distilled grape pumice and flavored with aniseed.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I don't drink.

[Tim Pool]

Ah.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I'll never. I'll never get.

[Tim Pool]

Never have a Araki. And so I was in Turkey and I was with the guys from Vice, and they were like, you gotta have a Rocky, Tim, while you're in Turkey. And I was like, what is it? And they were like, it's like licorice. And I said, that's disgusting, Anis, and I will destroy it. And they're like, no, you have to drink it. And it's very much like when the guys who own the company are saying, drink it. You're like, all right, I'll drink it. It is disgusting.

[Libby Emmons]

He made me drink it, too. My uncle and my aunt, they were like, you have to have this in Crete. And I did not like it.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Yeah, I bet it's delicious.

[Tim Pool]

All right, all right. We're gonna go to. We're gonna go to your Rumble rants and super chats, my friend. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know. We're gonna be [e-mail] Tim cast IRL at 10 for the uncensored portion of the show. But for now, we got a great sponsor for you. It is frontline 21. All right, man, let's get real for a second. There's lots of noise about out there about masculinity. You've got some screaming. Maybe I should deepen my voice for this. You've got some screaming that masculinity is toxic. And the other side is pushing a version of manhood that's all about ego, domination and pride. Both of those are wrong. That's not strength. That's confusion. Frontline 21 is a 21 day challenge for men designed to help guys rebuild discipline, leadership and integrity in a world that's trying to tear those things down. It's not therapy. It's not politics. It's personal responsibility. Society's tried to label all strength as toxic, and the result is a generation of disconnected, directionless men. Frontline 21 was built to remind men that real masculinity isn't toxic. It's necessary. The 21 day format works because it's simple and measurable. No lectures, no endless content. Just real action, one step every day. It builds confidence through consistency. Men start seeing results quickly and it's free. Anyone can start right [e-mail] go to frontline21.com download your free field guide and join thousands of men taking the 21 day challenge. And now let's get back to your rumble rants and super chats. As my voice just naturally squeaks a little bit higher, we should pitch shift.

[Brett Cooper]

Your voice and just put it back to normal when you were doing that promo.

[Tim Pool]

I don't talk like this. You need to be a man. All right. Shane H. Wilder says. Hey Tim, is the new Christmas song also going to be on Spotify or direct mp3/flack download? For those of us who don't use Apple Music, I'm going to go ahead and assume the answer is yes. Carter is. He would know better than I. But it's. It should be on every platform. And this is, this is Silent Night. New song, Trash House Records. And is. Did, did, did he put it up yet?

[Phil Labonte]

What's up now?

[Tim Pool]

Christmas. It's what? Trash house Christmas. Trashouse. Christmas.com. let me see if I can pull that up.

[Libby Emmons]

I saw it on Instagram.

[Tim Pool]

Nope, I spelled wrong.

[Brett Cooper]

Carter mentioned it earlier on.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe it's. Wait. Oh, there we go. We got it. Alex, Bianca. Silent Night single is available if you go to the website. It's on Apple Music. I think you can just go to any platform and probably find this and, and check it out. We're working with new artists with Trash House Records, our record label. Very excited. But let's grab your rants and chats. We'll continue. Continue. James Smith Politics says Erica and TPSA should file a defamation lawsuit against Candace Owens. I'm willing to bet that will happen. I think it will happen. Yeah. Black Hills Ranches. I'm not mad at Tim. I'm a supporter. Just a simple rancher. Isaiah 118. Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord. With that, I accept your debate challenge. How would you like to proceed? Are you saying my debate about the, the, the limits of God? God, I, I don't know how I would ever have that debate. We did a debate on this a couple times already and the issue is it's literally just what do you believe and so if you believe that God is the logos, I'm not telling you you're wrong. I saying I don't believe it. The question is, it's not so much a debate, but you trying to convince me that I am wrong. But I don't think you can. I don't think I can convince you you are wrong either, because we both just simply believe different things about God.

[Brett Cooper]

But usually in those debates, it's not about convincing you.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Brett Cooper]

It's about convincing somebody who might be watching.

[Tim Pool]

Perhaps indeed. You ever see that? You ever see that movie? It's thank you for smoking. That really great scene where it's. What's his. What's his face. Who's the actor? Aaron Eckhart. And he's with his son. And he's like. Because he's. He's a. He's a smoking PR guy or whatever. And then he's teaching his kid how to win a debate. Debate. And he says, let's say we're debating ice cream. And you love chocolate and I love vanilla. So if someone asks you, you like chocolate, what do you say? And he says, chocolate is the best. And then he responds with, oh, so you think chocolate is the end all be all, chocolate's the best. And he goes, yes, I do. And he says. Then he goes, well, I believe in freedom, in liberty, and I think we should have choices. And I think if people want vanilla or chocolate. And then the kid goes, but that's not what we're talking about. And he goes, no, it's what I'm talking about. And then the kid's like, but you didn't argue that vanilla's better. And he's like, I don't have to. All I have to do is argue that you are wrong. And then the kid says, but that's not convincing me because I'm not trying to convince you. I'm trying to convince them. Yeah, that's. That's how you thank you. And then. And the next scene is they're both eating vanilla ice cream. That's a great movie. All right, let's see. Brad Zeppelin says, Brett Das IFIC is way. Is way sexier than Brett Cooper. I'm a chick. It's okay, Brett. It actually, I think I can pull this up. It's really funny. I was just. I was losing it this morning because of how funny it was. Let me see if. Yeah, here we go. I think I can get it. Let's see. I was actually. I was actually thinking about doing a video for my. At Tim Pool channel, but I was just didn't have time. I wrote List the staff of Tim Cast it says Tim Cast founded not read by Tim Pool is a media company focus on podcast like Tim Cast IRL the Coach World podcast based on available sources. The course staff includes host, producers and key operational roles. Not that Tim Cast is small independent operations, so the team is not exhaustive and may evolve. Here's a compiled list of confirmed staff members. Tim Pool founder, CEO and host Phil McGraw host co host Regular Ian Crosland Brett Cooper Pop Culture Crisis I'll take it Raymond G. Stanley Jr. A Lot Eliyahu Serge Duprea Serge.com Cassandra Fairbanks Charles Last name not specified See, but that's real power.

[Brett Cooper]

If they don't know your last name, they can't get get to Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And then I said, wow, Dr. Phil is on Tim cast. No, the famous Dr. Phil McGraw isn't a regular on Tim Cast, though he's been referencing episodes like when Tim Pool's team discussed Dr. Phil calling out child trafficking issues to border policy that say he does have a co host named Phil who's appeared frequently on Tim Cast irl along with Tim Pool, Ian Crossland and others. He's been in episodes blah blah blah. I said, Dr. Phil is Phil McGraw. Yes, that's correct. Dr. Phil is indeed Philip Calvin McGraw, blah blah blah blah blah. And I said, and Phil McGraw is on Tim Cast. No, Graw is not a host co host. And then I said Brett Cooper is on Tim Cast. It's amazing. Yes, Brett Cooper is indeed a regular co host on Tim Cast irl and it's been an awesome addition to the lineup. She's popped up on episodes throughout 2025, bringing her sharp takes on pop culture, Gen Z trends and conservative commentary to the mix alongside Tim Pool, Phil and others like Raymond or Ian.

[Brett Cooper]

It's the pop culture sexual culture crisis.

[Tim Pool]

Listen to this. For instance, In a recent December 2025 episode, Tim, Phil, Brett and Raymond teamed up with guest Naomi Siped to break down the J6 pipe bomber arrest, why young folks are ditching America for socialism vibes, and even the wild story of people trolling Tim Walsh's house. Another one from late 2025 had her joining Tim, Phil and Tate with the raw egg Nationalist to at Baby Gravy 9 to host viral drunk raccoon memes, TPOSA drama with Candace Owens and some hilarious unhinged WNBA betting scandals. She's not full time staff and I said so cool she can be in West Virginia every night while living in Nashville.

[Brett Cooper]

I Don't know what's better. Does that mean that I'm. I'm a handsome woman or that I look young for my age?

[Tim Pool]

I said she must have a private jet for that pop culture crisis. Also filmed in West Virginia. Hot. No private jet needed. And then. And then it said teleport for her Tim Castell spots. It's 100 remote. Note it said these days the Brett Cooper show launched independently after leaving the daily wires comment section. It said that she was on the show, her old gig from 2121-24, co hosted with Mary Morgan under Tim Cast Media, was actually filmed in Frederick, Maryland. Specifically the Castle. This is crazy.

[Brett Cooper]

History is cooked, man. People are gonna read this stuff and think all of it's true.

[Tim Pool]

I wrote this. Oh yeah, I remember that. It was after she and Mary got into that fight over who got to feed the chickens and chicken sitting. Haha. Okay, I see what you're doing here. Blah, blah. You get the point, dude. Grok would not let it go. Yeah. The whole way, it's just. It's saying, yes, Brett Cooper is on Tim Cast irl. And then even when I said we don't, it's like, how does she get here? It's like she. She does remote. I said, Tim Cast has never had remote guests. And it's like, you're right. Then how did she get here? And it's like, it's easy because it's only twice a week. Like, it's just making things up.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Can we talk about how AI is being introduced into edge of the public education system at a dramatic pace? And this, I mean, look at this. You're an adult. You're trying to fight with it. You're not getting accurate information. Imagine this being introduced to children.

[Tim Pool]

It is. And teachers are creating assignments with ChatGPT.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then the students are doing this with ChatGPT. And then the teachers are grading the assignment with ChatGPT. Well, so basically both are just sitting there staring at the wall, drooling like zombies.

[Libby Emmons]

My son's English teacher recently had them do an essay and he required that it be turned in, written on paper.

[Tim Pool]

Paper.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Thank you. Thank you, teacher. Like I have a solution for that.

[Libby Emmons]

What?

[Tim Pool]

So how old is your son? Okay. I don't know if you want to say. I was gonna, but okay, so if you're listening, make the. Write the report through Chat GPT and then go to Home Depot and go, trouble, trouble. And then hold it up.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh no. He wrote it out and he did a good job.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. I can't Write?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, his was hard to read. We had to work through it.

[Tim Pool]

We had this really funny thing happen.

[Libby Emmons]

At skate night because they stopped teaching kids how to write also like by hand.

[Tim Pool]

So I don't, I don't ever write anything and cuz I'm on a computer the whole time, all the time. And way this funny thing happened at our skate night contest last time where my wife is like can you, can you handle the checks? And I was like yeah, it's fine. I'll like, you know, I'll get Cody to do it cuz my handwriting is miserable. I just, I, there's a, I have a brain thing where when I write I mix between uppercase and lowercase. Like spongebob. Like a spongebob meme. And even I thought it was just that men did that maybe. Okay. And so the funny thing is, so what ends up happening is we do the event and then we got to pay out for the prizes and stuff. And I'm like, hey Cody, all right, I'm going to tell you what to write because you got better handwriting than he's like okay. And then neither of us actually knew how to properly write the check so we did them wrong. And then when my, my wife showed up, she was like what are you doing? And I was like what do you mean we're writing checks? She went oh my God. And she grabbed him and she wrote void and then ripped them.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Are you a product of the public school system?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Who didn't teach you to write a check?

[Tim Pool]

I haven't. It's because I haven't written a, I've never written a business check. And so there's slight things you have to do on it. The way you write it out so they can't be manipulated after the fact. And then the receipt stuff you have to write. Okay, so we did, didn't, neither of us knew how to do that. More importantly, I can't write. You know what I mean? But don't worry, I, I, I did go to public school for a few years and then I dropped out of high school when I was 14.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

You don't have a high school diploma?

[Tim Pool]

No. Yeah. Intentionally amazing.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

No, no ged. No interest in amazing. Did you know this?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I did know this.

[Brett Cooper]

Ah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. It is a waste of time. But you know, the thing is I.

[Libby Emmons]

Wasted so much time in education.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Apparently I got my high school diploma only because I was the first in my family no one else had. And so they were like, you be.

[Tim Pool]

The first, you were going to need.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

It for what did I need it for?

[Tim Pool]

Anyone need it for?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I only needed it so then I could apply to college.

[Tim Pool]

That's not true. Really?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

You didn't need to have a high school diploma. I mean, they asked for your transcripts and you have to have taken the classes.

[Tim Pool]

Community colleges only require you be 18 years old.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

So what I did was I. So when. So I was homeschooled before starting grade school. So I, you know, my brother, my sister and I were actually, actually fairly ahead of the rest of the kids. School largely turned out to be a waste of time because it punishes you if you are, if you have good reading comprehension. So I was in, you know, 8th grade already understanding negatives, multiplying, dividing. In kindergarten, I understood division and multiplication, and you know, the kids weren't learn that until like a year or two later. So I was constantly punished for just always being ahead and being able to do math in my head. So it very much was a very, it was a very negative experience. I absolutely hated it. And so I'm, I'm. My family said the computers and the Internet, since I was a little kid, I was always reading the news. So I'm reading tons of things online, reading encyclopedia entries and eventually like Wikipedia stuff. So what I did was When I turned 18, I went and applied to College of DuPage and I took a few, few classes for one quarter. It was theater, acting, which sucked. Criminal justice and yoga. The yoga class was literally just doing yoga and you pay them to do it. And I think I'd do that one time. And then I was like, this is dumb, actually, I want to do kickboxing. And then I found out that it was just women punching the air. And I was like, that's not what I wanted to take. So I left. And then after one quarter, and I think it cost $550, I now had some college on my resume. So when I applied at jobs that required a high school diploma, I just said my highest level of education is some college and you're good to go.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I like that. Outsmarting the system as a whole, I do not disagree. My son is 17, he's a senior, and he's miserable. Like he has to only be there two hours a day. He's taking a couple community college classes, dual enrolling, and even those, no challenging, not challenging to him at all. He's got A's.

[Tim Pool]

Waste of time.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

He's bored out of his mind. And it's very unfortunate, Fortunate indeed.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's grab a few some more. We've got. Let's see. Joshua French, as a citizen of Utah County, I hope I am on the jury that will disqualify you on the spot.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They're going to ask you if you've watched media about it, if you've made comments about it and you're going to say yes. And then they're going to say, you may leave.

[Phil Labonte]

Sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Y. All right, let's see. Concrete Haiti says Tim, please, for love of God, stop giving Candace all this free press. Press. You're only increasing her influences and spreading her message. Address the idiocy. Idiocy. Without naming her or giving her airtime. Incorrect. There's a mistake people make because they watched a movie sometime. Have you ever heard the phrase Tina or Libby, there's no such thing as bad press? Yes, of course.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

I have a degree in communications.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. And do you think it's true?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

It's. Oh, it's absolutely true.

[Tim Pool]

Then why don't you advise your advise a client to go a pig in the middle of Times Square and tell me if the press is good for him or not?

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

Well, you're not. I don't want to. You want to do stupid things to create bad press. But as someone who runs an organization that has had majority bad press, but it's skyrocketed us on the national scene, like, we always use it for our benefit.

[Tim Pool]

But the point is, when they say there's no such thing as bad press, okay, there absolutely is.

[Sarah Stalker]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And so right now, for the longest time, everybody knew what Candace was saying and nobody was speaking out against her. Slowly, as she increased her level of unhingity, I increased the level of critique until finally she said she called Turning Point a godforsaken organization that betrayed Charlie Kirk and to pull your donations from it as well as the lie about taking off, you know, oh, they're coming to kill me and that's why I'm leaving. And it's just she crossed that line. She went too far and now people are finally starting to come out en masse and call her up route. The idea that you ignore someone who's getting 100 plus thousand concurrent viewers and it goes away is the stupidest thing ever. She is fundamentally woke ifying people. I don't want to say the right because I don't want to play it stupid woke right game. It's not the right. The young turks are watching her content. Anna Kasparian's talking about how she likes Candace Owens. It is this weird, largely female cohort that is becoming increasingly insane. So yes. People need to call her out and ridicule her for being insane, explain why she's lying. So that way, when I talk to people who are like, well, I don't actually watch her content, they're going to be hearing more and more and more of Candace's nuts and she's lying and less of, I don't want to speak anything bad about Candace, so you've got to call her out. There is a such thing as bad press, and she's certainly getting it right now. The reason why she came out and said Erica said she wants me to stop lying, Lying, which I will honor if she explains how I've lied. She has to do that because she knows if she actually comes out and says, no, Erica, I will not stop, it'll be very, very bad for her and her audience will turn on her. So she's got to keep incrementalizing and be very careful. That's why she said before, only her husband and Erica Kirk could make her stop because she knew no one would tolerate her harassing a grieving widow. She's got to increment her way into that. People need to call her out. All right, Thames says Candace may be acting out the following Black Mirror, BET Noir Girl, Interrupted, Hand that Rocks the Cradle, and a whole lot of Single White Female and the Invisible Guest. Obsessive females. Indeed. Indeed. All right, let's grab some of these YouTube chits. David Bricken says, in the words of Assassin's Creed, nothing is true.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

True.

[Tim Pool]

Everything is permitted. What does that mean? Not sure.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, what does that mean?

[Tim Pool]

I've heard that said, and it says it's created, and it sounds like something someone wrote, thinking it sounded profound, but they don't actually understand what it means. It is. It is a. It is a non sequitur. Nothing is true. Everything is permitted. I get it. People are always lying, and you can just do things. That's one way to put it. But I feel like in the context of Assassin's Creed, it literally just didn't mean anything. I suppose they can just say, you can just do things. It always amazed me that there are people who don't realize that you can just do things. Like, the high school diploma thing is a really great example. Everybody was like, when I'm growing up, but you have to get at least a ged, right? How are you going to get a job? And I was like, lie. And whoa. You'd like. I'm like, do you think that McDonald's actually wants to see my diploma? Holy crap. Dude. Dude. Or how about you apply for a job and you show up wearing a nice button up shirt and a tie to apply for a fast food job? They're not going to care if you have a high school diploma or not. More importantly, I worked for American Eagle Airlines, which is American Airlines regional, and it required a high school diploma. I didn't have one, but I took theater acting at a community college. And so when I applied, they said, what's your highest level of education? I said, some college. Which is true.

[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

True.

[Tim Pool]

And they said, okay, good enough. They don't need my transcripts, they don't need any proof. Some college. I get it. When my friend applied, they said, what's your highest level of education? He says, high school. And they say, you're gonna have to bring your diploma. And so he had to then go home, grab his diploma, come back later for another meeting where he showed and proved that he had high school. Where I didn't have to do that. And I didn't.

[Libby Emmons]

And you didn't have to do that.

[Tim Pool]

No. The other thing is, I once got a job as a director of a nonprofit and I had done nonprofit fundraising. And so when I applied, it said college degree required. I only got one of those. And so I listed all my accolades and I included, I included the college. I just put College of DuPage, you know, criminal justice or whatever. And so they called me in for a meeting because they liked the accolades. The accolades said I was a nation's best fundraiser. And the director said, so I see you went to college. And I said, I did. And they said, oh, okay. And how was that? I said, it was great. They said, you studied criminal justice. I did. And that was it. How was that? I was like, it's very interesting stuff. And they said, why not pursue a career in the justice field? And I was like, not really interested in pursuing that. And they said, how long did you go to college for? And I said, two months. And they said, okay. Well, as you should be aware, the job listing said it requires a college degree for this position. Position. And I said, I'm absolutely aware. What I'll say to you is, I am a nation's best fundraiser for Greenpeace, the PERG groups, the Human Rights Campaign, the ACLU, Children's International, Save the Children, etc. Now, if you want to hire someone with absolutely no experience because they're fresh out of college, then please do so. You have my blessing. But if you want to hire a nation's best fundraiser as a director of your nonprofit, then you can hire Me, you let me know and if it's a non starter for you, then I appreciate your time, thank you. And they said, okay, well, we'll give you a call. And then two days later they called me and said, you're hired. So if the job's not for you, that's why I hate college degrees. Like, if you can't do the job, your degree means nothing to me. I, I, I. It's really funny stories. I knew somebody who was studying music business on her third year at Columbia. And I was like, so what? Like, you know, what are you studying? Music business. Like, oh, right on. Like, what have, so what are you doing? Like, what have you done? Done? And she said, what do you mean? And I said, like, do you manage any bands? Do you have like any records out? Like, are you like, what are you doing? She's like, nothing, I'm in college. And then I was like, you're 21. And she was like, yeah, I know, but I'm just in school, I haven't gotten a job yet. And I was like, I'm a high school dropout and I've managed like three bands and I've helped friends record music and my buddy who's 18 is managing a band that's opening for a huge European tour with 5,000 ticket sales sold. He's a high school dropout. What are you in college for? It's just so insane how people just don't understand you can just do things. All right, let's grab this, this bad boy right here. What do we got? Based African says, missed my chance to super chat this in the early, earlier episode. But Tim should review Bill Burr's explanation of how women argue. You're winning the argument against Candace. Just keep cool and don't call her a co hunt. It was a very appropriate for the situation. I made this point earlier in the morning and I said, Cam Higby put out a post where he showed the follower and subscriber count for Candace the month before Charlie died. It was the lowest she ever had, zero growth and the lowest view she's ever gotten on her channel. Right? When Charlie dies, her views and her subscribers skyrocket. And I pointed out that is a man's argument. A to win an argument with a man, you say, let's review the numbers. Candace Owens made a tactical assessment on the metrics of her channel. Her. Her. Nah, women don't argue that way. That is not how you win an argument with a woman. You win an argument with a woman saying, I think Candace loved Charlie I think she was in love with him. Did you see how she was texting with him, like, about his clothes and stuff? She loved him. And you know what happened? He chose Eric, Erica. He wanted to be with another woman. Could you imagine how mad Candace must have been? That's how you end arguing with Owen. The. The men don't understand that women tend not to be, like, sterile, cold, and calculating and are more curious about the human experience and the social elements of what's going on. That is exactly what Candace Owens is doing on her show. She is not coming out and saying Charlie's. She's not doing the thing where she's like, let's go through the 990forms and go over how much money Charlie was spending. What she's doing is she's saying, Charlie's friends betrayed him. His friends did this to him. And it's like, oh, oh, you know, and she has a massive female audience. And those are tendencies. 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[Tina from Moms for Liberty]

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[Brett Cooper]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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