Ex-FBI Director Comey Under Investigation For THREATENING Trump With "86-47" Post w/ Tim Alberino & Rep. Burlison

Summary

Timcast IRL: Ex-FBI Director Comey Under Investigation For THREATENING Trump With "86-47" Post w/ Tim Alberino & Rep. Burlison

Release Date: May 16, 2025

In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Ian Crossland delves into a series of explosive and controversial topics surrounding political figures, judicial overreach, constitutional debates, and speculative theories about impending global cataclysms. Joined by author and ufologist Tim Albarino and Congressman Eric Burleson from southwest Missouri, the discussion offers a deep dive into the current state of American politics and societal fears.

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1. James Comey’s “86-47” Social Media Post

Timestamp: [00:16] – [13:38]

The episode kicks off with a heated analysis of a recent social media post by former FBI Director James Comey, who shared an image accompanied by the numbers "86-47." Crossland interprets these numbers as a potential threat towards former President Donald Trump, suggesting that "86" could be a coded message indicating the removal or even termination of an individual, drawing parallels to mob terminology where "86" signifies murder.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Crossland [06:13]: "James Comey posted 86-47, that is interpreted as a death threat. And I doubt he'll get arrested."
• Mary Morgan [07:59]: "He's so playing dumb. Like, if he thought it was a political message and that the numbers meant something political, what exactly did he think 86 meant?"
• Tim Albarino [08:35]: "That's clearly what he meant."

The conversation extends to reflect on the polarized interpretations from both the left and the right. While some on the right believe it to be a direct threat, certain liberal personalities have also posted "86-47," suggesting a complex and multifaceted debate around the intent and meaning behind the numbers.

Timestamp: [11:18] – [13:59]
The discussion shifts to President Donald Trump's interactions with the intelligence community, emphasizing his outsider status despite attempts to integrate into the political establishment. Crossland suggests that Trump's distrust of traditional institutions led to adversarial relationships with figures like Comey, contributing to the ongoing tensions.

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2. Wisconsin Judge Hannah Dug’s Judicial Immunity Claim

Timestamp: [32:35] – [35:26]

The episode transitions to the case of Judge Hannah Dug from Wisconsin, who faces allegations of aiding an illegal alien's escape. Dug asserts judicial immunity, a legal doctrine that shields judges from liability for actions performed within their official capacity. Crossland critiques this defense, arguing that her actions go beyond standard judicial duties and should not be protected under immunity.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Crossland [34:15]: "As a judge, she has to tell people where to go and when to go. And she was saying, you go that way and leave."
• Eric Burleson [36:12]: "It's like these people have ruined their lives and their careers by making these decisions. This is a cult, man. It is a cult."

Burleson echoes the sentiment, drawing parallels to the Comey situation and criticizing the broader legal and political systems for enabling such behaviors.

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3. Supreme Court Hearing on Birthright Citizenship and Universal Injunctions

Timestamp: [17:07] – [26:46]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the Supreme Court's recent oral arguments on birthright citizenship and universal injunctions. Tim Albarino and Burleson discuss the implications of potentially revising the 14th Amendment, which currently grants automatic citizenship to anyone born in the United States.

Crossland underscores the historical context, mentioning that the Supreme Court has upheld birthright citizenship for over 127 years. However, the Trump administration's executive orders challenge this precedent, prompting intense legal battles.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Crossland [18:08]: "The Supreme Court justices appeared divided on birthright citizenship arguments."
• Tim Albarino [26:11]: "Have a unique problem now that they didn't have back then, and that is that we have thousands and thousands of people streaming over the border, pregnant, to have babies here."

The panel critiques the judicial system's overreach, particularly criticizing the use of universal injunctions that prevent the executive branch from implementing policies without individual court cases. They argue that this grants disproportionate power to lower court judges, undermining the intended balance of powers.

Timestamp: [24:26] – [26:46]
Discussion extends to the practical challenges of enforcing or altering birthright citizenship, with Burleson questioning its constitutional basis and Crossland highlighting modern immigration complexities that the 14th Amendment doesn't account for.

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4. Political Division and Judicial Overreach

Timestamp: [36:12] – [50:26]

The conversation deepens into the political implications of the Supreme Court's decisions, with Crossland and Burleson expressing frustration over partisan gridlock and the judiciary's increasing influence on national policy. They criticize the Democratic Party's strategies, suggesting a lack of coherent policy and an over-reliance on identity politics.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Crossland [37:19]: "I don't see how Democrats muster up anything for 2028 because there's no message, there's no mission."
• Mary Morgan [37:40]: "But do hate white men."

The panel also touches upon the legislative process, particularly the inefficiency of omnibus bills, which bundle multiple unrelated issues into a single bill, making it difficult to pass straightforward, single-issue legislation.

Timestamp: [49:03] – [50:26]
They advocate for more direct and transparent legislative actions, criticizing the current system for allowing obscure and unrelated provisions to undermine key legislative efforts like the Hearing Protection Act and the Short Act.

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5. Technological Surveillance and Data Privacy

Timestamp: [41:19] – [43:53]

Shifting focus, the discussion addresses the pervasive technological surveillance embedded in modern life. Burleson highlights concerns over car companies tracking data, revealing that new vehicles transmit extensive personal information, including driving habits and even biometric data like weight changes.

Notable Quotes:

• Eric Burleson [41:19]: "People need to know that."
• Ian Crossland [43:07]: "Facebook can predict when a person will get up and go to the bathroom."

The panel expresses unease over the extent of data collection and its implications for privacy and privacy rights, emphasizing the need for legislative oversight to protect citizens from intrusive surveillance.

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6. Speculative Theories: Pole Shifts and Alien Species

Timestamp: [50:26] – [123:59]

In a departure from mainstream topics, the episode delves into speculative and fringe theories about impending global cataclysms, including massive pole shifts and encounters with alien species. Tim Albarino presents the idea of a Type I civilization as per the Kardashev Scale, suggesting that humanity's lack of unified governance and technological coherence could make it vulnerable to catastrophic events.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Crossland [69:05]: "Imagine going to like Thomas Jefferson and saying, you know that song you guys have about the shores of Tripoli? What if those people came here and had kids and then ran for president?"
• Tim Albarino [78:58]: "I seriously think that gold and Silver are fantastic."

The panel discusses ancient texts like the Book of Enoch, linking them to ancient astronaut theories and positing that historical descriptions of gods and giants are actually accounts of extraterrestrial interactions. They debate the plausibility of these theories, with Phil Labonte expressing skepticism while others remain intrigued.

Timestamp: [119:12] – [123:59]
The conversation further explores how ancient myths and modern interpretations might converge, suggesting that descriptions of celestial beings in religious texts could be misconstrued accounts of alien technology and interactions.

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7. Audience Engagement and Sponsorship

Throughout the episode, the hosts interact with their audience, responding to comments and questions that reflect the listeners' concerns and interests. Advertisements for sponsors like T-Mobile, Hillsdale Education, and Jacked Up Fitness are strategically placed to align with the show's themes of personal empowerment and independence.

Notable Quotes:

• Phil Labonte [71:44]: "It's a good game."
• Ian Crossland [123:27]: "Shout out to Congress. Everyone's very happy with the work they're doing. Love y'all."

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Conclusion

The episode concludes with a mix of light-hearted interactions and final thoughts on the pressing issues discussed. Tim Albarino promotes his book "Birthright" and comments on the state of UFO disclosures, while Eric Burleson emphasizes the importance of legislative actions like the Hearing Protection Act and Short Act to protect Second Amendment rights.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Crossland [122:50]: "It's about time for that uncensored portion of the show."
• Tim Albarino [123:00]: "I've done documentaries on the subject, yes."

The hosts encourage listeners to engage with their content on platforms like Rumble.com, reinforcing the show's commitment to uncensored and independent discussions on vital and controversial topics.

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Overall, this episode of Timcast IRL offers a comprehensive exploration of the intersection between politics, law, technological surveillance, and speculative theories about global impacts, framed within a highly polarized and dynamic American political landscape. The inclusion of guests like Tim Albarino and Rep. Eric Burleson provides diverse perspectives, though the conversations often reflect a strong conservative bias and skepticism towards mainstream narratives and institutions.

Transcript

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For this, there is actually an investigation happening. We'll see. You know, I really don't think anything's going to happen. But on the right, basically all the Trump supporters are saying, you can't allow them to do this stuff. Now we've got a bunch of prominent liberal personalities also posting 8647. They're doing this because they want to Defend Comey. Because 8647 can be interpreted as a call to action and direct threat. However, if all the liberals start flooding it, their mentality is, no, no, see, it's just a protest phrase. Perhaps like kill the bower or something. Just a protest song. Doesn't really mean anything like that. So we'll talk about that. And we got another story. That Wisconsin judge who helped that criminal alien escape, she's claiming immunity. Indeed, she's saying she is immune from prosecution, just like Trump is. That's actually the argument. So we'll talk about all that. But before we do, we got some great sponsors for you. We got Hillsdale Edu. 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Go to getjackedup.com Sign up for the free training program and when you're ready, purchase your own Power Rack Pro X using promo code POOL P O O L. Save 10% at getjackedup.com shout out. Don't forget to smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, we got a couple great guests joining us tonight. We got Tim Albarino.

[Tim Albarino]

Thanks for having me.

[Ian Crossland]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Tim Albarino]

I am a author, researcher, explorer and. And a ufologist.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, interesting. Really?

[Tim Albarino]

Indeed.

[Ian Crossland]

We have another guest here, Rhett Burleson. Who are you?

[Eric Burleson]

I'm Eric Burleson. I'm the congressman from southwest Missouri and just happy to be here.

[Ian Crossland]

Now, not that it's your specialty or anything, but you did recently have. Was it a hearing or an interview on UF on alien species?

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, we've had multiple ones. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Multiple ones.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

So it looks like we have to talk about aliens.

[Eric Burleson]

I guess if that's what you want to talk about.

[Ian Crossland]

We'll get to. We'll get to it. We got Mary hanging out.

[Mary Morgan]

Hello, everyone. My name is Mary Morgan and you can usually find me on Pop culture Crisis here at Tim Cast. We actually just joined Rumble. That's a new channel on Rumble. We're on both YouTube and Rumble, but we're trying to get followers over there. So go subscribe on YouTube and follow us on Rumble.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Ian Crossland]

Here's the story from the Daily Mail. MAGA demands immediate arrest of former FBI director after. After he called for assassination of Trump. What did he do? He posted this image. It's some seashells that I'm pretty sure he arranged because he's got nothing better to be random.

[Mary Morgan]

What are you talking about?

[Ian Crossland]

He just stumbled upon this washed up that way natural rock formation. He called it a cool shell formation on my beachwalk. Well, he's. He's walked it back. He pleads ignorance and. Let's see. Did he. Do we have his post here? I thought I have. I thought I had his post somewhere. I guess not. Did he? Here we go. Here it is. Comey. He Took it down and said, I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message. I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence. It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind, so I took the post down. Well, indeed. He's now apparently under investigation. Christine Ohm says DHS and Secret Service is investigating this threat and will respond appropriately. FBI Director Cash Patel says, we are aware of the recent social media post by former FBI Director James Comey directed at President Trump. We are in communication with Secret Service and Director Curran. Primary jurisdiction is with Secret Service on these matters and we, the FBI, will provide all necessary support. Well, then you get Brian Krasnstein, who posts 8647, and he and others have just been spam blasting that message. Now, for those that aren't familiar, 86 could mean a couple different things. It basically means to. It's, it's in some way remove someone to, to the light end, to the extreme end. It can be interpreted many ways. If a server is at a restaurant and they say 86 the fries, it just means get rid of them. However, in the, I guess, mob lingo, when they say 86 the guy, it's usually a reference to murdering someone. So when James Comey posts 8647, that is interpreted as a death threat. And I doubt he'll get arrested. But I'm curious what you guys think.

[Mary Morgan]

He's so playing dumb. Like, if he thought it was a political message and that the numbers meant something political, what exactly did he think 86 meant? We know what he meant by 47, but what did he think of 86?

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, he, he admitted that he knew as a political message.

[Mary Morgan]

Right. So what did he think the message was?

[Ian Crossland]

And we want 86 more trumps.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I looked it up. It actually has an angel number, meaning it indicates that your guardian angels are aware of your entreaties regarding financial necessities and requirements.

[Tim Albarino]

That's clearly what he meant.

[Ian Crossland]

Exactly.

[Mary Morgan]

Financial prosperity on the 47th president.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, he knows that Donald Trump was richer before he became the president, and he knows that it's cost him money to be the president. So he's hoping that Donald Trump gets back the money after he's, he's finished as a public.

[Mary Morgan]

What did he think was going to happen after posting this? Like everyone was just going to scroll past it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

Why dumb now? What's the use?

[Ian Crossland]

I genuinely think that a lot of these people are so used to getting away with violence and threats. He didn't think anybody would do anything about it.

[Mary Morgan]

Replies, people are saying, hey, you condone murder. And he's like, hell, no. What? What? I have no idea what you're talking about. So he's playing dumb as well. Is he getting investigated?

[Eric Burleson]

I don't.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, I think they should, but I was telling the good rep over here how much I love Democrats because they are ruthless and merciless. And if this were inverted, the Democrats would be. You'd have. You'd have a handful of federal cops just mercilessly beating the Republican FBI director.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. Look at what they did. The J6ers, people that didn't even get near the building. They arrested grandmas. Right?

[Ian Crossland]

Yep.

[Eric Burleson]

So, yeah, you're right. I mean, I sadly agree with you.

[Ian Crossland]

You love Democrats too.

[Eric Burleson]

We often let our. Our party down. We let the base down because we. We always bring like a, you know, not even a knife to. To a gunfight. We. We generally sport pom poms. Pom poms to a gunfight.

[Ian Crossland]

Is it pom pom or pom pom?

[Phil Labonte]

Pom. Pom Pom poms. P o m. P O M. P.

[Ian Crossland]

O M. Pom poms.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Albarino]

Could you imagine if Don Jr. Had posted that?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, oh, dude, if.

[Ian Crossland]

If Don Jr. Posted 86 forties. 46, they'd be. They'd be. They'd kick in his door. It would be like that scene from V for Vendetta when they cracked the comedian in the face with truncheon.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, but Biden's already dead, so no need to ad.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, they just.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a robot. He's a. He's a. He's currently a robot.

[Phil Labonte]

He's. I mean, he's as close to a zombie as. As you can get in the real world.

[Mary Morgan]

I think, like, we almost started feeling bad for him toward the end there.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, don't include.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, people don't know this, but Kamala Harris is actually a necromancer. And the reason she was on the ticket is because she was the only one who could actually puppet string the Biden into looking like he was running.

[Mary Morgan]

Just an animated meat sack.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, I think the only problem with that is. You're calling Biden animated, right?

[Mary Morgan]

Never mind. Scratch that.

[Ian Crossland]

Anyway, this is the top trending story on X right now.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it's not give of the.

[Ian Crossland]

State of our politics.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not a surprise that Comey, you know, would post stuff like this. He's been, you know, he's been as much of an outspoken Donald Trump critic as possible, you know, as anyone else or any other Democrat. The idea that he was an unbiased, you know, director of the FBI, that's ridiculous.

[Mary Morgan]

I think that pointed. Can you, like, debrief me on where Comey's TDS comes from?

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I don't know. Well, I mean, I don't know about his Trump derangement syndrome, but Trump is. What's the. How do you describe Trump? He's. I can't think of a good word for this, but he hired a bunch of really stupid people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Because he trusted really stupid people.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, well, he.

[Phil Labonte]

I think a lot of the reason why he hired the people that he did is because he believed that once he got elected and got into office, they would treat him like the other presidents. He would be a member of the, you know, he would be in the club. And there's nothing that Trump wants more than. Than to be liked by people and to be in the club. Call that. If you. If you look at that as. As, you know, something bad, then fine. If you look at that as something good, then fine. But if what Trump wants is to get the respect of the people that were in the club, if it wasn't for Barack Obama making fun of him, he likely would have never run. But it was a big fu. To the establishment and to everybody that was at the White House Correspondent's dinner that laughed at him. He got in and then he was like, okay, I will be magnanimous and I will treat you all well and I'll be nice, and I will, you know, if you'll let me in the club. And the difference between Trump and every other president is once he was in, they didn't consider him in. They didn't think of him as an insider. He was always an outsider.

[Ian Crossland]

I already know the answer to this question, but I'm going to ask it as a rhetorical device. Have you ever seen Fahrenheit 119 by Michael Moore?

[Phil Labonte]

No, of course you didn't.

[Ian Crossland]

In that documentary. You have seen it.

[Eric Burleson]

You did see It's Been a While.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, heavens, I was wrong. You saw it. Well, I saw it, too. I went with Luke Rudkowski. We took a trip to the theater. And in it, Michael Moore argues that Trump was accidentally the president. And he only announced he was running for president because NBC gave Gwen Stefani a better contract. And he got offended because he's a bigger personality. So he thought, if I run, if I announce that I'm running and then actually, you know, do this, we Once I leave, I'll have better name recognition and they'll give me a better deal. But then he accidentally won and was befuddled, which makes no sense because he registered MAGA four years before he ran.

[Eric Burleson]

But sure, he'd been, he'd been talking about it forever. He'd been talking about it with Roger Stone for quite some time. They've been planning. He was, he was flirting with it for a long time. But, you know, as somebody who never ran for anything, a lot of people are, who are private sector individuals, don't want to jump right in like that. And he was playing him.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not, not that I'm in the political realm, but I know a few people that have, you know, that are elected officials, and I would not want anything to do with that at all. It seems like, you know, an exercise in masochism. But he was, he was flirting in 2000, I think, is when he was going to start that.

[Ian Crossland]

The Reform Party.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, the Reform Party. And then David Duke got, got into there. He's like, all right, I'm out of here, man. But, yeah, like, he, he had been flirting with the idea. He talked to Oprah Winfrey about it. And I think that's part of the reason why nobody thought he was serious even when he did announce. And that's probably why Joe Scarborough gave him so much time. They had been friendly before he ran, and then they thought, oh, Donald Trump was on the Apprentice. He's on NBC, you know, so we can bring him on. It'll be crossover stuff. They'll, the, the NBC fans like him, so it'll be fun, et cetera, et cetera. But then when he did actually become the nominee, they had to side with Hillary Clinton because that's what NBC was going to do. And so, you know, they, they had to. Had to turn on. But they gave him tons of free airtime. They were, they were part of the reason why Donald Trump was elected in the first place.

[Mary Morgan]

You're right, though, about his need to feel included in the club. Like, that is his top character flaw. Just this pathological need to be liked.

[Phil Labonte]

There's, there's.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes, I don't. But his, but his arrogance on top of that, when they've slighted him becomes, you know, near divine retribution. We were promised, can I come in your club? And they're like, no, you stink. I'm gonna destroy you.

[Eric Burleson]

To me, he's the Rodney Dangerfield from Caddyshack.

[Phil Labonte]

It's great analogy, that is.

[Eric Burleson]

That is Trump. Like, he's the guy Who? The. The elitists. They. They didn't want him to be part of the club, but he certainly qualified. And he. And he said, I'll show you. I will. I'll. I'll find a way to get in, and you'll have to deal with me. He's. He's.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, I remember when he was running, and it. What he was about to take the primaries, he had a meeting in D.C. and everybody was all excited. We were watching, like this, that there was a car pulling into a building, and everybody was like, ooh, he's gonna have a meeting with these big shots. And I think Trump went in talking to the Republican leadership and was under the impression, if I win, I'm gonna work with you guys. Who you think I should bring on? And they were like, yeah, bring in John Bolton and bring in Comey. And he's like, all right. And then as soon as he did, they were like, all right, get him out. Shut him down, Russian spy. And they betrayed him. The Republicans had Congress for the first two years of Trump's first term, and they. What happened? They just. They went along with the Russian narrative. Let it happen. That's insane. And here we are. I suppose the good thing is you wouldn't have everything Trump is doing right now if he did win in 2020. You've been continuation of these bad people. So, you know, ain't all bad.

[Phil Labonte]

No, the. The time that Trump spent, you know, in the wilderness was really, really good for, you know, I think it'll end up being good for the country, but. But it was definitely good for Donald Trump because he went. And if I understand correctly, I was watching a lot of stuff that Sean Spicer and Mark Halperin have been talking about it, and they were saying, you know, he spent a lot of time finding people in Washington and talking with them and listening to them and saying, you know, what did I do wrong? Where, you know, where did I. How did I mess up? Et cetera. And he really spent a lot of time thinking about that and figuring out how to make sure that doesn't happen, which is why we got, like, the flurry of activity that we had when he first got. When he first got elected, when he first got inaugurated. And that's why, you know, we'll talk about it in a little bit. But that's why we see the Supreme Court today talking about birthright citizenship. If I understand correctly, they're not gonna. They're not actually gonna be taking on the issue of birthright citizenship, but they are taking on the issue of blanket pardons.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, let's, let's, let's jump into this. We've got this from npr. Supreme Court justices appeared divided in birthright citizenship arguments. So for those that aren't familiar today, they heard the oral arguments as to whether or not people get citizenship just because they were born here. They also heard arguments on universal injunctions. And as always, the liberals are saying the clearly liberal things and the conservatives saying the killerly conservative things they go to say. The U.S. supreme Court seemed at least partially divided on Thursday as the just as the justice has heard more than two hours of arguments debating how the lower courts should handle Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship. Trump has long maintained there's no such thing as birthright citizenship at the Supreme Court ruled otherwise 127 years ago. They were wrong, by the way. That's my opinion. The court said then and since then the next that the text of the 14th Amendment, enacted after the Civil War says that all babies born in the US Are automatically US Citizens. Undaunted, Trump on his first day issued an executive order. We, we know. When the court of appeals refused to intervene while the litigation proceeded, the Trump admin asked the Supreme Court to block universal injunctions. Alt the admin asserted that single district judges should not have such broad authority. So on Thursday, the court heard emergency arguments in the case. So, yeah, it doesn't seem like they're going to answer just right now on birthright citizenship. But on the issue of they could, they could universal injunctions, one of the most fascinating statements in this, I think it was Katanji Brown Jackson, it might have been. It was one of the liberals stupid. And it was, they said what's wrong? So the argument was what's wrong with a district court judge telling the government what you're doing is illegal, so you can't do it to anyone. And the solicitor general for the US Said, we enacted a Trump signed an executive order about, you know, the military, I think was the military. And we got a court to issue a universal injunction saying you cannot enact this. So we appealed. The appeals court put a stay on the injunction, saying for the time being until this is properly adjudicated, you can continue. Shortly after that, they filed in another district court and got another universal injunction. So how does it make sense that you're going to get an appeals court saying keep going, but then another district court can just put another injunction? And the Supreme Court justice said, yeah, but then wouldn't like everyone who's affected have to get a lawyer and sue when these things happen. And I'm just like, are, are you a, are you a. Yes. Are you kidding me? The argument from this, from the liberal court was that people uninvolved in a court case could and should be granted relief or impacted by a court's decision. That is an absurdity. That, that, that means that argument is Phil could file a lawsuit over the interpretation of like music royalties or something. And then totally unrelated to the case, the judge could say, and people can't wear beanies anymore. And then I'm like, wait, what do I have to do with this? I am not a party of this lawsuit. Why are you enjoining my actions after the fact? That's, that's the argument they were making. It is a stupid argument. And sometimes I wonder how these people are Justices.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, the, the special, there are special interest groups. Like for instance, there is the short barrel rifle or pistol dispute that's going to be going up to the Supreme Court. I'm not sure if they're going to actually hear it, but that's, I think they're trying to get it in from the Supreme Court. But either way, like, not every person in the country needs relief by the, by the injunction.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

It's, it's the people that own these guns. So the special interest groups like the Gun Owners of goa, Gun Owners of America, or FPC Firearms Policy Coalition or whatever, these groups can go to the court and say, we need an injunction for our members. That's not a blanket.

[Ian Crossland]

That's right.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, that's not a blanket for the whole country, but it is for the specific people that will be affected. And the way that it goes now is it's just an injunction for the whole country. And that shouldn't be. And this is something that the, that Kagan has, has spoke on recently, or not in, not recently, but in the past. These injunctions that are blank, injunctions that prevent the, the administration from carrying out its job need to end. You know, you can't have, you can't just have the, the judiciary impeding the executive office from, you know, from doing the lower courts.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, right. Because that's the real problem is that you've got, how many, how many hundreds or thousands of these individuals are there? I don't know. But they, you can't, it's, it's chaos when you, when you let one person in a lower court be the veto, literally give them the veto power of a president on policy that affects the entire nation. That's insane. That was never an intention of the founding fathers.

[Ian Crossland]

Nowhere in the Constitution does it grant the judiciary the power to issue universal decrees to how the country is run. I mean, and it's a particularly egregious with Donald Trump's ban on transgender servicemen and women in the military. This is a DSM 5 mental disorder. That is the academic right. I'm not trying to disrespect anybody. YouTube. Calm down. Rumble's chill. But there are over 40 different categories that will get you disqualified or, or disqualify from enlistment. And Trump just added another one to it, only for exhibiting symptoms. And a lower court district judge said, no, you must bring in anyone who enlists because, quote, all means, all this meant at least temporarily schizophrenic bipolar individuals are now entitled to enlist in the military. And Trump can't say no. He's the commander in chief. It's an absurdity that you basically have in these universal injunctions rule by decree of the judiciary. They can literally just. We hereby say the government can no longer arrest people for smoking pot and just decree that marijuana is not illegal anymore. That's an insanity. So I don't know if they're, you know, according to npr, it looks like even the conservatives weren't convinced by the Solicitor General. General's arguments. But I guess we'll see. The other context, of course, is birthright citizenship. I'm curious what you guys think. Do you believe that people should be granted automatic citizenship just for being born here?

[Eric Burleson]

No, I don't think the Constitution says that. I, I think it's pretty clear that, that the president has and Congress have the authority over this topic to define it and to determine, you know, naturalization. I don't think. And nowhere in there does it say that.

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[Eric Burleson]

Now, anybody born here has has U.S. citizenship.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, the 40amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

[Mary Morgan]

That's the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law. And it definitely wasn't intended to mean anyone who flies over the border at the last minute while crowning is about to give birth to a US Citizen. That is not the way it was intended at all.

[Ian Crossland]

Indeed, the intention of the 14th Amendment was to say, hey guys, stop the Civil War stuff. It's over, we win. Now how do we remedy this slavery thing? I got it. If you were born here, you know, you're a citizen. We good. Okay. Now moving forward. And then some, like, what, 40 years later somebody was like, yeah, but it says if you're born here, you're a citizen. And then they were like, you know, that, that meant, then, that meant like after the war. And they're like, no, we think it means forever. And then a judge said, yes, we.

[Tim Albarino]

Have a unique problem now that they didn't have back then, and that is that we have thousands and thousands of people streaming over the border, as you said, pregnant, to have babies here, to anchor themselves and their families in the United States. And a lot of these people are not, they're not amalgamating with the, with the culture.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Tim Albarino]

They have their own cultures and they maintain, in some sense, they maintain their patriotism and allegiance to the countries that they come from. This is a unique problem that we have. This isn't a problem that goes back to the Civil War. So I think it needs a new solution.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I think one of the challenges we constantly hear from liberals, arguments about how the founding fathers didn't understand the technological advancements that would alter the meaning of the Constitution. And I don't completely disagree with that. I just don't think it voids any of the initial Bill of Rights of the Constitution. That being said, I do think it's fair to say. Here's a question for you guys. You're. You're a member of Congress. Are you, are you a two way guy?

[Eric Burleson]

You'd say yes.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think people should be allowed to have nuclear weapons? A tough one, right?

[Eric Burleson]

You know, I would say up, up everything up into nuclear weapons.

[Ian Crossland]

What about biological weapons? No, see, I agree, but I'm. My view is procedurally we should amend the Constitution. We should, we have to say that.

[Eric Burleson]

Because it's clear, like, whatever. To me, the way the second Amendment is written, it's that if the military is going to have this, then the citizens should have it too.

[Ian Crossland]

Indeed. And, and back then in the late 1700s, when they were fighting a war, and then I think it was what, 1789. When they drafted this, people had, had cannons, artillery, they had warships, private warships. And even to this day, private companies make nuclear weapons for the government. They just regulate and control how it's done. So I do think we want to protect the basic right of the people to keep and bear arms. But basically everybody I know, not literally everybody, but most people would be like, we don't think random people should be, should have biological weapons. But it's a weapon. It's used by governments. Yeah, but we're talking about the apocalypse now. The founding fathers couldn't have perceived of weaponized smallpox. Well, actually.

[Phil Labonte]

So, you know.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe now that you mentioned that their thoughts on bioweapons may be different than what we're talking about.

[Ian Crossland]

My point is bringing that up is they didn't perceive of it that way of like weaponizing viruses to target genetics and things like that.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure.

[Ian Crossland]

So anyway, my point is this. Airplanes, you know, it was a lot easier back in the day if somebody came into your town that wasn't from there. They'd just be like, wink, you're not a citizen. Get out of here. Now what happens is someone flies here, guy at the hospital doesn't know where this person is.

[Tim Albarino]

That's right.

[Eric Burleson]

And they have to take him.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah. And then this, this Chinese woman comes in and she's like, I'm, I'm pregnant. And they're like, we don't know if they're a citizen or not. And then they give birth. And then this is, this is. Okay, whatever it is, your arguments are whatever you want to think. I'm going to tell you exactly why we have to get rid of birth. Birthright citizenship. Okay. It, it shouldn't exist. We're, we're. Iran is a great adversary of ours. We don't, we don't like them. They're, you know, they're crazy. They're going to build a nuclear weapon. We can't have any of that. What happens if an Iranian couple travels to the US by whatever means they can, because they do, and gives birth to a child in America and then three months later flies back to Iran through Turkey or something. Right. Lives 30, 20 years, let's say 20 years in Iran and that child grows up as a staunch, you know, Islamist and supporter of, of, of Iran and their desires and their goals. But as an American passport, this is.

[Phil Labonte]

Very similar to the reality of Hassan Piker.

[Ian Crossland]

And then the Iranian 20 year old who barely speaks English moves the United States, an American citizen born in America, allegiant to Iran. And then Goes university, learns a language and then runs for president 15 years later, young, 35 year old, charismatic, says, trust me, I should be president. Everyone's like, you grew up in Iran, an adversary of this nation. Doesn't matter. American citizens. I mean, that's an absurdity. The founding fathers would have, would accept them. No, what you, what do you mean? Imagine going to like Thomas Jefferson and saying, you know that song you guys have about the shores of Tripoli? What if those people came here and had kids and then ran for president? He'd be like, what? No, what are you talking about? And that's where we are today.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. And then you add on top of that that we're now a nation, we're a welfare state.

[Tim Albarino]

Right?

[Ian Crossland]

Oh yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

So for every person back, back in the founding fathers, they, they didn't people. Every person born was not a walking liability. Financial liability.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Eric Burleson]

Every child born in America is, or that that is US citizen is hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cost. Just an education costs alone to the, to the US Taxpayers. If God forbid, they get sick and they go to a hospital, we're paying for their Medicaid. Right. And so in the costs go on and on. And so that's why. And it's, you can't have a nation that has such a generous welfare system and, and have open borders and allow this to happen.

[Ian Crossland]

I will, I will just clarify because the, the Marines hymn is from 1867. So Thomas Jefferson, of course would not have known, would not have known about it. But, but he did know about the shores of Tripoli. So he certainly would have been like. Yeah, no, but I do think it is kind of funny, in fact, that a lot of the illegal immigrants are from the halls of Montezuma, you know.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, I guess technically many from the shores of Tripoli as well.

[Phil Labonte]

Possibly. But the. Now, never mind. I had a point that I lost it.

[Ian Crossland]

I was too busy making a point about the Founding Fathers being at war with Barbary pirates and not wanting them to come here.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean we've been doing the whole policing the seas for a long time, haven't we?

[Ian Crossland]

Trump still wants to do it. That's like his whole thing.

[Phil Labonte]

The US still does make the seas safe for international trade for at least for most of the world, you know, and personally I think that that's, that's a totally legitimate use for the Navy. And it's a big part of why the US is still the indispensable nation.

[Ian Crossland]

Indeed. Let's jump to this story from Politico Wisconsin Judge argues she is entitled to judicial immunity. You may have, you may have heard of Judge Hannah Dug. She is accused of aiding and abetting a criminal alien by allowing him to escape federal law enforcement. They're seeking to deport him. She's pleaded not guilty. Now she is arguing she is immune from prosecution. Let me read. Wisconsin judge charged with helping a man who was in the country illegally to helping a man, country in the country illegally evade U.S. immigration agents who was trying to get him from the courthouse filed a motion to dismiss the case Wednesday, arguing there's no legal basis for it. Attorneys for Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Judge Hannah Dugan argued in the notion that her conduct on the day of question amounted to directing people's movement in and around her courtroom and that she enjoys legal immunity for official acts she performs as a judge. They CITE Last year's U.S. supreme Court ruling in Trump's 2020 election interference case. We get it. Quote, the problem with the prosecution are legion. But most immediately, the government cannot prosecute Judge Dugan because she's entitled to judicial immunity for her official acts. Immunity is not a defense to the prosecution to be determined later by a jury or court. It is an absolute bar to the prosecution at the outset. Outset.

[Phil Labonte]

Is that an official duty helping to helping accused criminals.

[Ian Crossland]

And, and they're going to go, objection. Speculative. Actually don't know if they'd say that, but I just wanted to bang the gavel. But what they're actually going to say is she wasn't seeking to assist an illegal immigrant. She was simply directing the flow of traffic in her courtroom that she does. That's what they're saying. That's what they said. That's literally what they said.

[Phil Labonte]

That's hilarious.

[Ian Crossland]

As judge, she has to tell people where to go and when to go. And she was saying, you go that way and leave. Because I am, I am so busy today. Now, the funny thing about law is I typically find a lot of people, I don't know if you guys bump into this. People think the law is like a gigantic wall. And it's just like if there's contract, law is my favorite. People will say things like, oh, but you can't do this. You signed a contract. I'll be like, you've never been in, involved with contact contract litigation, have you? Cuz people break those literally every other day. They're, they're worth, they're literally worth less than the paper they're printed on. It's kind of just like guidelines. But contracts can be voided by a judge. You can you can, you know, I can sign a label deal with Phil that's totally sounding legit. And then a judge finds it to be unfair and just voids it. It's like the contract doesn't mean anything. So people don't understand that the law is as people are willing to enforce it. So then when this judge says, hey, look, I'm allowed to direct traffic in my courtroom, so I'm immune. Any sane judge is going to go, nice try, lady, because we're human beings, we're not morons. We understand what you're trying to do.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it's unfortunate, but, you know, the, the arg. If, if you can make an argument and you have someone that's politically aligned with you and they're politically motivated, almost any argument will do.

[Ian Crossland]

She's going before, I guess, a Democrat judge appointed by Bill Clinton, so that's convenient.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, she'll get out of it.

[Eric Burleson]

I mean, it's, it's really a shame. It's really shameful. And, and both, I mean, it's kind of like comey too. It's like these, these people have ruined their lives and their careers. They've. By making these decisions. This, this is, and it's wild. Like, how did you, at some point, how did you get to the place where you have such an upside down perspective on, on reality like she did? So it's a cult, man. It is a cult.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, let me, let me ask you, like, you're, you're in Congress and the complaint we have with the Republicans, they don't seem to do much. But to be fair, in all seriousness, I do prefer a political party that does little compared to what the Democrats do.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And the issue I see right now, the Democratic Party is they seem to do nothing but oppose. They're not, they're not offering things up. Like if you, that, that RFK Jr. Hearing where he was, he held that woman, he's like, you've been trying to get artificial dyes out for 20 years. I did it 100 days. You should be praising me. Nope, nope, you're bad. So we're going to oppose you. Trump says, I'm going to sign executive order, executive order, negotiate drug prices down. And they got mad at him. Why? Why, what is this?

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, you work with these people. Their, their brain is broken, Right.

[Ian Crossland]

They, these are going to get you in trouble.

[Eric Burleson]

That didn't know brain is broken. These are the same people that would not applaud the young boy who, you know, had brain cancer who was being deputized as a U.S. marshal. How could you, how could you sit there and protest that? It just defies any kind of rationale whatsoever.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't see how Democrats muster up anything for 2028 because there's no message, there's no mission.

[Mary Morgan]

If they lean into class warfare and true left wing populism, they would clean up, but they, they're not willing to divorce themselves from identity politics yet. I, I don't, is the humiliation not thorough enough?

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know that they have politics. It's just whatever. Trump is their opposite.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. They don't have a consistent policy or philosophy, a political philosophy that they're, that they're governed by like.

[Ian Crossland]

I agree what you're saying, but my point is their intention is not to be for identity politics. It's because we're against it.

[Mary Morgan]

Hmm. So if I disagree, I mean, I think that they are truly hateful people.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes.

[Mary Morgan]

But do hate white men.

[Ian Crossland]

But that's because Trump a white man.

[Mary Morgan]

It's not just because Trump is a white man.

[Ian Crossland]

I think for some of these people, you're probably correct. Or I should say for some of these people, they genuinely hate white people and they're leading the cause. But I would, I would argue that for most liberal or Democrat voters, they would abandon the anti white stuff the moment Trump was out of the picture.

[Mary Morgan]

That wasn't true when Biden was in office.

[Ian Crossland]

The default libs, I wait, are you, I'm saying, like there's a, there's an activist base that is anti white. Yeah. And then there's default libs that just vote for whatever the machine tells them to vote for. And the default libs are clueless to these politics. They don't care. But they hate Trump, so they vote for whatever the, the libs want.

[Mary Morgan]

Not sure if I agree about the default libs. They're more extreme than you might, I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

I, I, I, I think they're culty. I think they're just, they're, they're ignorant. They don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I, I think I'm actually on Mary's side on this. I do think that they, they have a, they have the desire to look at people as the other. So they look at Republicans overall as the other. And you can see it in a lot of people that post on TikTok, a lot of them. And they tend to be awfuls, you know, affluent, white, urban, liberal women. And they are, they may, they say some of the most terrible racist things, but because it's directed at white people, it's perfectly acceptable. And they're, they're. Tim's right. There is a culty aspect to them because they go, you can check the list of all the appropriate views, and if they have all the appropriate views, then they can say terrible things. But there is. I forget who made the quote, but there is something that is extremely alluring to people to be able to be terrible to other people and feel like you have the moral high ground, you're being virtuous by being terrible to this to people. And right now, conservatives, MAGA people are in that group and it's focused on white conservative men. And so anytime they get the opportunity to, to be condescending, hateful, and just absolutely awful, they do. And it's like a psychological treat. I forget who said that. That was the quote they used. It was the most delectable psychological treat is what they said. But people do. If you can feel morally superior and be absolutely terrible to someone else and feel like you're doing it and you're right in doing it because they are bad, it's something that, you know, some people just can't. Can't pass up in Congress.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you reach out to Democrats and try to get them on board with your, Your project, your bills?

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. Just today, Jared golden and I had a conversation in the hallway about. Well, I'm working on a data privacy bill for the, the data that your car collects. I don't know if you're aware of this, but like your, your, if you buy a new vehicle today, they're tracking so much information about you, you, Your driving habits, where you went, the fact, I mean, they, they could tell that you went to Taco Bell last night and that you gained 10 pounds.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Eric Burleson]

And what you were listening to along the way, and then they're broadcasting that through a cell signal back to the mothership. Right. To whatever car company you bought it from. And then they sell it on the market. Right.

[Mary Morgan]

Do you mean buying it new and how new?

[Eric Burleson]

So I think I've heard that this is, this pattern has been happened since 2021. Like vehicles, vehicles since 2021. Not every make, but it. More and more, More makes of cars are doing this. They're. They're monetizing your data. And, and, and so did you. That people need to know that.

[Ian Crossland]

Did you know that Facebook knows when you have to poop? Not a joke.

[Mary Morgan]

What, when you start scrolling?

[Ian Crossland]

No. So there are, there, there are, there are things that we don't realize are associated with behaviors, but when Facebook brings in 1 billion people and then takes the data from all of them. Wow. It. It can see, like. So this is actually a story that's pretty old. Facebook's been able to do this for a long time. It can predict when a person will get up and go to the bathroom because it's got a billion people and it's watching everything they do. And it can discern that when your GPS shows you get up from your workspace and then walk and then sit down for 10 minutes and then walk again. They're like, that was a potty break. So now it's tracked all of the behaviors everyone's done before that.

[Tim Albarino]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

It even knows where you'll eat. Facebook can predict which. Which local restaurant you'll go to. You don't even. You might be sitting there with your. Like, you're at work, and then someone's like, we got Arby's, Burger King, Blaze pizza. What do you want to. What do you want to hit up? And then you're going, oh, man. School. Blaze pizza. That sounds good. Facebook already knew. It already knew because there's certain behaviors that you'll do that you don't realize are associated with a certain kind of food, but the AI can predict it with high probability. It's nuts.

[Phil Labonte]

Zuckerberg's literally waiting inside for you at the table. He knows which table you're going to go to as well.

[Ian Crossland]

In the York.

[Mary Morgan]

I brought my sweet baby rays.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. That was weird, wasn't it?

[Eric Burleson]

It's one thing if you kind of. If you know, as the consumer, if you are prepared and you know. And you. You've consented to that and you say, I know you're gonna like Google. Everybody knows you have Gmail. Everybody knows that you're giving up all of your information to Google and they're gonna sell it. Right. And monetize it. And that's part of, like, the. The consent. But I don't think people know that their car is tracking them.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

And. And I think I do. People need to know.

[Ian Crossland]

So. And. But your weight.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

It, like, did you ever accidentally, like, put your hand down on the passenger seat or something or in the back seat and that puts the seat belt warning up.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

If. If so, I. I had a bunch of books, no mag. It was Life magazines. And I put in the passenger seat, and then it was like, put on a seat belt because it's weighing you.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, it would be hilarious, though. Elon should do this. If you gain a lot of weight, it should put an alert being like, in the past month, you've gained £7. Put down the fork.

[Eric Burleson]

Show the face of Bobby Kennedy Jr. Don't eat that.

[Ian Crossland]

The one in the shadows. One where he's like coming out of.

[Phil Labonte]

The shadows, looking at you, the street, top down. It's all the shadows in his face, the Kubrick stare. So he's frightened.

[Tim Albarino]

You're eating too much down the Big Mac.

[Phil Labonte]

I know it's delicious.

[Ian Crossland]

I know we're laughing about it, but I think that's genuinely where we're going as a civilization with AI and automation. You're going to pick up your phone, you're going to be like, I got to go to work. You're going to go on Uber. It's going to be called Uber Auto. The car will be self driven. You'll sit down in it and you'll just have your eyes half, you know, just glazed over and half closed. And then also on, the car will turn left and go into a Starbucks. It'll pull up automatically, transmit the data. Then a robot arm will reach into the car and it'll give you a mocha Frappuccino. And you'll be like, I did want one of these.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, I didn't even ask for it, but I wouldn't mind the car telling me if I put on, you know, a couple pounds, so I didn't have to wait until the mirror told me, because that is gradual and it slowly happens there. Then just one day you're like, oh, no, I've gained seven or eight pounds and I gotta go spend a whole bunch of time at the gym. If I got, if it was just like two or three pounds, it's like, you gained a couple pounds, I'd be, all right, well, I'm gonna go to the gym and take care of this before he gets better.

[Eric Burleson]

So back to your question about do we work with Democrats? I'll, I'll tell you, like, one of the. My favorite moments of the day is going into the member gym because it's like I'll be lifting weights side by side with Democrats, right? And at that, at that time, you. It's not, you know, it's just getting know each other on a personal level.

[Mary Morgan]

The gym.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, but it's probably more Republicans. But there are. And wild.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, look, I mean, obviously all the Republicans are ripped and they're like, you know, they're doing heavy curls and the, and the Democrats are probably lifting like 5 pound weights and.

[Mary Morgan]

No, I mean, lifting weights made you a fascist.

[Eric Burleson]

I'll tell you. Luke Carrera from, from California, great guy. He He's a great guy and he is, he's pretty stout. He's, he's a, especially at his age. He is a strong individual.

[Ian Crossland]

Stout also implies short, doesn't it?

[Eric Burleson]

I don't, I've, I don't know. I, to me, when I see stout, I think of like robust.

[Ian Crossland]

That could mean fat.

[Eric Burleson]

Like broad.

[Ian Crossland]

Broad works.

[Eric Burleson]

Right. Thick.

[Mary Morgan]

But do you think that instinct to collaborate and build bridges is kind of a one sided feeling?

[Eric Burleson]

Do I.

[Mary Morgan]

The Democrats don't feel that way.

[Eric Burleson]

There's some. And I think that like even on a personal level, like AOC and I, for example, we are not, we don't align on nearly anything now we do on the UAP topic and some like some privacy issues. But, but we still find, I mean you find a way to like be nice as a human being to the people that you're working with even though, even when you're disagreeing with them adamantly. But when the cameras turn on, because I'm on oversight committee and, and when people have their five minutes, they, it's become clickbait. Right. Like it's performative. It's performative. And I can go in a whole thing about this.

[Ian Crossland]

The camera is like a full moon. And when it turns on, they, they're sitting there talking and being like, hey man, you know those really great clip. And the climate turns on.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, that's the thing. They want the, to be able to clip it for the Internet and then they can act normal outside of the clip.

[Ian Crossland]

But I call that evil.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, there's a lot of people that, yeah. Behave that way.

[Eric Burleson]

I think that one of the most messed up parts about DC Is the committee process because I came from a state legislature where when you have a bill or you have a topic come through, you literally have members that are sitting there and they're asking questions, thoughtful questions, trying to understand the text of the bill, understand the perspective of the different people that might be affected and they come up and testify. And so you truly are fact finding in Congress. That is not happening in general. It's all about, you get five minutes of time and you better make your five minutes interesting. And otherwise you're not truly. There's no opportunity to actually get it.

[Ian Crossland]

This is the kind of stuff that makes me want to run for Congress. You know, I was talking to Rhett Massie today and he was like, you guys are getting another three day weekend. Is that what's going on? They canceled the vote.

[Eric Burleson]

Well, I'm still working tomorrow, but.

[Ian Crossland]

But you don't have to.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, they canceled the vote because they can't decide.

[Ian Crossland]

He was like, the game was a four day week. He was like, it was like a four day week. Now it's a three day week. And I was like, man, you're making it sound like a great job.

[Phil Labonte]

Is that another chance to get the Hearing Protection act in there? Can you, can you do what? Another chance to get the Hearing Protection act in there. Can you slide that in there?

[Eric Burleson]

That's what we're trying. That's right now I'm trying to do everything I can to get Protection Act.

[Ian Crossland]

Very important.

[Phil Labonte]

That's very important. Silencers are personal protective equipment.

[Eric Burleson]

Suppressors.

[Phil Labonte]

Suppressors. Cans. Cans are, are, are protective equipment. They're important.

[Ian Crossland]

And also it's about safety.

[Phil Labonte]

It is about. It unironically is about safety and saving.

[Eric Burleson]

Money on Medicare, spending money on hearing aids.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep, absolutely. That and the short act are very important, in my opinion.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, real quick question before we move to the next subject, though. I always wondered with these like big omnibus bills, the. Remember that one that was like 5,000 pages.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Why can't you just slide in like one piece of paper?

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly what we're trying to do, right?

[Ian Crossland]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Just slide in that one paper that says like, you know, you can buy a silencer still.

[Phil Labonte]

Polish the atf.

[Eric Burleson]

I'll tell you, like, polish the agency, Abolish the nfh.

[Phil Labonte]

One line. It's all it takes. One line.

[Eric Burleson]

The real unfortunate thing is often that does happen, but it's from industry. It's the things you don't want. It's the swampy stuff that you say, how did that get in there?

[Phil Labonte]

That's the thing, like we talk about why things are the way they are in DC around this table frequently. And it's like these omnibus bills make everybody in Congress happy because you can throw a bunch of gunk in there, right. And you don't have to be responsible for the bad stuff. So when your constituents say, hey, you know, how did you get, how did this pass? How come you didn't vote against it? How come you voted for it? Well, it was in the omnibus and I had to, because first of all, we didn't want to shut the government down. And second of all, there was all these things that we do want that were in there and you have to make trades and that's the way that it goes.

[Tim Albarino]

And it's intentionally voluminous so that it's impossible to read. It's daunting to try and read what's in it. And I don't, I don't understand why in Congress we haven't had just single issue bills. I mean that to me makes the most sense. Just one at a time, one issue.

[Phil Labonte]

At a time, because then they have to answer for the bills.

[Tim Albarino]

They can't cram a bunch of ancillary.

[Phil Labonte]

If you have single line bills, then Congress people are then going to have to go back to their constituents and say I voted for it because of this or I voted against it because of this. And in every district there are people that are going to be for and against it. And it's easier if you don't have to answer for the, for the bills. It's the same, same reason that the Congress doesn't do, doesn't declare war anymore. They'd rather they gave the president, they created a law to give the President the authority to go to war, which the Constitution does not give the President the authority to do that and it doesn't give the Congress the authority to get out of voting to declare war. But they created that, gave it to the president and every president since George Bush has been riding on that same authorization. And it's, it's because they don't want to have to vote because it's easier to go to Congress, not actually have to put your name on anything. So that way you don't have to have, you have to be responsible for anything. Joe Biden was the exact same thing. The reason why they wanted Joe Biden or one of the reasons why they wanted Joe Biden is because Joe Biden was a rubber stamp for whatever the Democrats wanted to do do. And Joe Biden wasn't going to be responsible and no one else was going to be responsible either. No one could tell you who was actually making the calls in the Biden administration because it wasn't Joe Biden because he was completely incapable of doing it and the people behind him could just point at each other.

[Ian Crossland]

Let's, let's jump to this next story from the Daily Mail. Trump Derangement Syndrome to be studied under new bill how to tell if you've got symptoms, symptoms of so called tds. Yes, they say finally, to get the bottom of this, Rep. Warren Davidson from Ohio introduced the Trump Derangement Syndrome Research act of 2025 to study the phenomenon. TDS has divided families the country and led to nationwide violence, including two assassination attempts on President Trump. He told the Daily Mail in a statement. His proposal seeks to leverage the National Institute of Health's existing programs to study the purported disorder Were you familiar with this one?

[Eric Burleson]

I was not. This is new to me, and Warren is. He's a good friend. He's one of the more brilliant members of Congress. My guess is this, this is. Sometimes members will, will file a bill that's like just making a statement. I think that can't force a vote.

[Ian Crossland]

On it, can you?

[Eric Burleson]

I, I mean, not without really making a lot of people angry.

[Ian Crossland]

See, that's the, that's the one thing that really makes me want to be in Congress just for one term. So I can make everybody angry. I would cause a scene. The problem is people might enjoy that I'm there and want to keep me there. I wouldn't want to stay, you know? Yeah, but, you know, those five minutes you get in those hearings, I'd probably be just, you know, paddle balling, you know, just doing weird stuff and, you know, and I'm like, guys, honestly, five minutes. I got five minutes, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna get a, I'm gonna get a record for the most amount of paddle balls in five minutes. Film it. I want to put it on X.

[Eric Burleson]

Just.

[Ian Crossland]

That's my goal.

[Phil Labonte]

Bring a skateboard and just do ollies. Right, Right on the, on the floor, like, right.

[Eric Burleson]

I got for five minutes.

[Ian Crossland]

Fingerboard right here. Let's get some tricks.

[Eric Burleson]

That's very Alex style. Yes, that would be very Alex Stein.

[Ian Crossland]

Alex Stein should run.

[Eric Burleson]

He should, because he needs, he needs.

[Ian Crossland]

To be sitting there yelling at everybody.

[Eric Burleson]

He could troll Dan Crenshaw every day.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what we need. I don't know if he could win, though. Maybe.

[Eric Burleson]

Who knows?

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, maybe his campaign can be. Guys, look, it doesn't work. Just send me. Who cares?

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

Have you seen.

[Tim Albarino]

What's the difference?

[Ian Crossland]

Right?

[Eric Burleson]

Girl that is running against Crenshaw in Texas, Valentina Gomez.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah. I think we've had her on the show a couple times.

[Eric Burleson]

She's. She is really fascinating to watch and hilarious.

[Phil Labonte]

You are too kind. She is hilarious. She is hilarious. But look, I know that the House is, is where people can be more colorful and have more personality than the Senate. Senate's got their nose in the air.

[Eric Burleson]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not sure that Valentina is ready for the House of Representatives.

[Mary Morgan]

Why?

[Phil Labonte]

Because she's a nut bag.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, she's, you know, she's kind of spicy.

[Phil Labonte]

She is kind of spicy.

[Mary Morgan]

The entertainment value.

[Eric Burleson]

I, I, yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with you, but I, I, I'll tell you, when she was running for. She's running for, like, state. State secretary of state in Missouri a couple years ago. And like after the first speech that I saw in front of a forum, in front of all these Republicans, I, I was like, that was a very different speech. It was hilarious. She's really funny, but I'm no tech genius.

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[Eric Burleson]

And so each time, well, she was making some people mad and a lot of people had that attitude that, you know, she's, what is she doing? She's not going to win. There's no way. I'll tell you, every time she would get up to go to give a speech, I would elbow the person next to me and say, this is going to be good.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe she would be like Donald Trump and she would get in. But I do think unless it's a safe, like a very safe Republican district that she's running in, I wouldn't want to risk losing a House member because the, that's fair. The, you know, the House is, the, the, the lead is so narrow now, you know, so personally, that's my opinion.

[Mary Morgan]

You don't think she's reliable?

[Phil Labonte]

No, I'm not sure that she would win is what I'm saying.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So if it's, if it's a race where, if, unless it's very, very safe in the Republican district, she's a based zoomer.

[Ian Crossland]

What district is crunch on?

[Eric Burleson]

I don't know the numbers there, but yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

He is in district two, Texas second.

[Mary Morgan]

She has an edge because she has a third eye.

[Ian Crossland]

It is R plus 12. Let's go.

[Tim Albarino]

I think at this point the American people will take anybody other than status quo. Yeah, I think the American people are sick and tired of normative politicians.

[Ian Crossland]

I'd take Mary and she's a woman over Dan.

[Mary Morgan]

Dan Crenshaw.

[Phil Labonte]

I think you're right and I think, but I think that one of the things that we've said, we've been talking about this a lot, is the fact that Donald Trump has shown that presidents can do things for a Long time presidents would get elected and they'd be like, oh, I couldn't do it because of this, or I couldn't do it.

[Tim Albarino]

Because of puppets of the intelligence community.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And now the American people are like, no, I don't believe you anymore. Because Donald Trump went in and made all these executive orders, and of course it's up to Congress to codify them. But whether it be stuff that makes the right happy or it makes the left happy, like the, the prescription drug stuff that he just did, like, that's something that can be done and that presidents have been, or politicians have been promising forever and ever. And Trump has shown that, look, if you are motivated to do things, the President does have fairly expansive powers. And if Congress or if the judiciary fights you on it, you can fight them back legally in the court and stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

Right now, Donald Trump, his administration are trying to take any possible interpretation of the law they can to move their agenda forward, while the judiciary is creating unconstitutional universal injunctions to do whatever they can to stop the executive branch and Congress is sitting on the bleachers eating popcorn.

[Eric Burleson]

This is true.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, there's supposed to be a third branch to intervene and be like, whoa, whoa, hold on. And I suppose what we want to see is the codification and legislating that is towards Trump's agenda, but it doesn't happen.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. And, and the answer that we are given from leadership is that, well, that will never pass the Senate. So they, they make the political calculation ahead of time. And the reason is then they back when they backtrack it, they say, well, we don't want to put our vulnerable members on a bad vote or on a vote that they might, that might cause them conflict. And so therefore, we're not going to take that fight unless we can win it.

[Ian Crossland]

Democrats had a committee to go after J6ers. Republicans have never had a committee to go after the far left, notably the M29 insurrectionists who firebombed the White House grounds in St. John's Church and nearly torched a historic church. They torched a guard post at the White House. Nothing.

[Phil Labonte]

The Democrats made fun of it. The next day they did. Bunker Boy. They called the President Bunker boy because he was being attacked by far leftists. The White House was being attacked by far leftists, and they moved the President to the bunker, which the Secret Service is going to do. The President doesn't have the ability to stop them, and then the media makes fun of him for it.

[Tim Albarino]

I think the Republicans are making the wrong calculation. I think being More ferocious and controversial. You get the people behind you. You know it's not. And I think there's a lot of them are afraid that the way they're going to be viewed, the way their colleagues are going to view them, they don't want to be seen as too extremely to maga. But this is a different time. I mean you have to get the people behind you. And that's what the Democrats do. They rile up their base. They get behind these pet issues and they get extreme and it works for them and they're very, very tenacious.

[Ian Crossland]

I think, I think it's, it's, it's my fault.

[Phil Labonte]

Pardon me?

[Ian Crossland]

I think it's my fault.

[Phil Labonte]

Shame on you.

[Ian Crossland]

I think that what we need to do on shows like this is just actively primary anyone who stands in the way and that is our fault. Because what they're, they're scared of, the calculation that you're mentioning is the New York Times is going to write bad things about me and then I'll lose my race. And it's like, okay, let's see what we here at the Timcast IRL can do to your race. If you want to side with the.

[Phil Labonte]

New York Times, you're that House Ways and Means Committee.

[Ian Crossland]

So I guess we'll just have to start. You know, I talked about doing it before, but I think the issue is the corporate press has no problem being overtly political and causing these problems for people fall in line. And for shows like this, we're all disparate, we're all independent. We don't coordinate with anybody. The New York Times is one big top down thing. Maybe we need to, maybe we need to start putting some of these members on blast and say we're going to make sure you never win another race.

[Eric Burleson]

They're politicians like we the, they're like cows. They're not going to move unless you create some kind of, you know, penalty or some kind of force to move. Yeah, whenever I first ran for the state House in Missouri, I was, you know, the people that give you advice, the advisors, the longtime political consultants said, okay, don't really take a position. Like they would tell you to be very vague in your positions so that you don't box yourself in. And then they would tell you once, when you're elected, don't sponsor anything very difficult and certainly don't co sponsor because everything you do will more likely have a negative consequence. So don't do anything controversial or big. And that's, that's kind of been the mantra and the, the attitude Trump, I think, has changed that. And I think the American people have been sick and tired of politicians who just want to keep their job.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

And because that's the attitude of somebody that just wants the job. It's not the attitude of somebody that's trying to save the country. And so we need more people that want to save the country and are not and are okay with the fact that it may mean that they go home.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know how we get more people into Congress like that, but I do think that the idea of primarying people for, you know, not following through or doing things like, you know, that are, say, again, anti Second Amendment, I don't see any problem with, with, you know, at least bringing it up on shows like this and making people aware because for the most part, your average person doesn't know who is, who are the actual people that are responsible for, you know, why didn't this pass or why didn't this bill get pushed forward? Like, are there responsible people? And there are people that are responsible, even if it's, and it usually comes down to just a few people or even one person that had the, the connections to be able to say, no, we're gonna, we're gonna put this on the shelf, you know, whether it be the speaker or whether it be the chairman of a committee or something like that. And those people need to be, you know, need to be put on blast when they do things that their constituents don't like.

[Ian Crossland]

Let's jump to this next story from Is it Live Science? I think it's live science. The sun just spat out the strongest solar flares of 2025 and more could be headed toward Earth. The sun has released several powerful M and X class solar flares over the past few days, resulting in radio blackouts around the world. Say on Tuesday, a sunspot on the Sun's surface named AR4086 exploded, releasing an x 1.2 class solar flare, part of the most powerful category of flare. Then during the early hours of Wednesday, another sunspot named AR4087 sped at an M 5.3 flare, followed by an even more powerful X 2.7 flare and yet another M 7.7 a few hours later. The radiation of these solar flares triggered radio blackouts on the sun facing side of the planet at the time of the flares, affecting north and South America, Europe, Africa and the Middle east and Southeast Asia. So a lot of people are freaking out over the story. They're saying it's going to be one of the Biggest we've seen in a long time. And there's also a lot of concern about the power outages that we've seen in Europe, in Puerto Rico. I don't know if you know, you guys have talked to anybody about this related to UAP phenomenon or anything related to this, but this stuff seems to be pretty hot right now. Relating to. There's a conspiracy theory called the Adam and Eve story. Are you familiar with this one?

[Eric Burleson]

No.

[Ian Crossland]

You're familiar with it? Every 6,500 years there's a polar shift, the planet tilts or something and then the magnetosphere weakens and then we get blasted by solar radiation, destroying technology and then a flood happens. Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Albarino]

There's various theories of cyclic cataclysm. That's one of them. Yeah, yeah. Another. Another theory is that there's a, a body that enters our solar system. Maybe it's on, on an elliptical path around the sun. It flies out, something like that. It could be a large asteroid. And when it comes into the neighborhood of the planets in our solar system, it wreaks havoc, the gravitational pull and so forth. But I think it's clear that that cyclic cataclysm is, is a reality.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think you saw, you heard about the power outages across Europe or it was Spain, France and Portugal?

[Tim Albarino]

I didn't hear about that.

[Ian Crossland]

All their power got knocked out.

[Tim Albarino]

When, when did this happen?

[Ian Crossland]

Was it a week ago?

[Phil Labonte]

Last week.

[Ian Crossland]

Last week.

[Tim Albarino]

It was from a solar flare?

[Ian Crossland]

No, I don't know. They said it was. What was it? Atmospheric oscillation triggering mechanical failure or something. They said a rare atmospherical phenomenon triggered some fail safe which knocked the power out from southern France across Spain and Portugal. And I was talking to Ben Davidson, he's the space weather guy. Are you familiar with him by chance? No, space weather guy. He said similarly we saw Puerto Rico had all their power knocked out the week prior. So what he surmises is that the magnetosphere has weakened because we are in the midst of a polar shift and that it's not solar flares, it's just normal solar activity is penetrating the planet. What do you think is going to happen?

[Tim Albarino]

You know this, this whole idea of a pole shift, I find it to be compelling. I do, I do believe we are in a period of time called a Suntelia. And this is a thousand year period of time. And this goes back to the ancient Greeks, all the way back to the ancient Egyptians, the ancient Mesopotamians, in which cataclysm will befall within these thousand years. And this is based on the zodiac. This is what the zodiac tracks. The ancients knew this. It tracks cataclysm, like civilization ending. Cataclysm. And I think it's happened many times before in the Earth's past. And we are scheduled. We're within that period of time. And whether it's pole shift or whether it's a. Like I said, an object coming into the solar system, I do believe something is going to happen before long. And before long could mean in the next few hundred years or. Yeah, 500.

[Mary Morgan]

What about the 2033 asteroid, Apophis? Is that its name?

[Ian Crossland]

Really?

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, I think that's.

[Ian Crossland]

Seriously calling it Apophis.

[Tim Albarino]

I think it's called Apophis, if that's when you're referring to. Yeah, that's supposedly. And maybe they've readjusted the calculation. Isn't it supposed to pass closer to the Earth, like between the Moon and the Earth?

[Mary Morgan]

This says the next approach close to earth will be 2028, which is not a concern, but there is a. An estimated 2.33% chance of impact in 2030-2036.

[Phil Labonte]

April 13th.

[Eric Burleson]

Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

So Pope would pass through a gravitational keyhole estimated to be 800 meters in diameter. This is Wikipedia. Which would have set up. Which would have set up a future impact. Exactly seven years later, on Easter Sunday, April 13, 2036.

[Ian Crossland]

It's going to come within 20,000 miles of the Earth's surface. Yeah, that's actually extremely close.

[Phil Labonte]

Whoa.

[Eric Burleson]

So 23 chance it comes in contact. That's disturbing.

[Tim Albarino]

3%, I think they said. Or 2 to. What is it?

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, 2 to 3.

[Tim Albarino]

2 to 3.

[Mary Morgan]

They said it was going to hit Africa, so we don't have anything to worry about.

[Phil Labonte]

So it's 450 meters.

[Ian Crossland]

Sorry. Just so just you guys understand, the moon is 238, 900 miles away.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah. Yeah. So it's passing much closer to the Earth of the moon.

[Ian Crossland]

90, 90%.

[Tim Albarino]

And, you know, it makes you wonder, is this the reason why so many billionaires have been building bunkers?

[Ian Crossland]

That's what I've been talking about.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, there's a. And it's true. It's happening. A lot of people are building bunkers. A lot of billionaires and multimillionaires have been building bunkers, and they've been doing it for the last decade. What do they know that the rest of us don't?

[Ian Crossland]

It could just be that when you got buckets of money, you just do things.

[Tim Albarino]

I don't think so. Not in this case.

[Mary Morgan]

Related to just nuclear threat.

[Tim Albarino]

No. I think it's some sort of impending cataclysm that somebody knows about. You know, let's, let's call them the elites, the globalist elite understand that there's a cataclysm coming. Maybe that is why their behavior seems to be so reckless too, because they know that, yeah, cataclysm is coming.

[Ian Crossland]

Let me ask you a question. Have you seen the, the proposed like future map of North America after the pole shift?

[Tim Albarino]

I don't, I don't know if I've seen that.

[Ian Crossland]

No, it's, it's, I'm not, I'm not giving any, I don't want to give any legitimacy to it, but it's an interesting idea. The idea is that if the, if the planet shifts because, so the cataclysmic theory is the poles shift. We know they do. However, mainstream scientists say like one every once every, you know, 800,000 years. So we've got nothing word about. However the cataclysm theorists say it's 6500 and we're actually in the midst of it. We've got this story from a Smithsonian real quick. Earth's magnetic pole is shifting towards Siberia. So people are naturally saying this. If the, the argument from the cataclysmic theorists is that the planet will tilt. North America will become the southern hemisphere. Florida will be, I think cold and Canada will be like Mexico. Antarctica will be in. This will be on the equator. This will, this movement causes all the water to basically slosh very quickly around creating great floods. And there's a proposed future map of North America based on this where you basically have North America. United States becomes like split in two different major bodies of water. So there's like three chunks, water runs through it. California's flooded. Florida's gone. Well, no, Florida's not gone, but flooded. And I was thinking about this and I got a question for you. If there were to be a cataclysm, what's the most important technology we should be mass producing right now to recover civilization after a cataclysm?

[Tim Albarino]

Spaceships or underground or underground cities.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, did you hear about Catherine Austin Fitz on Tucker Carlson?

[Tim Albarino]

Yes, yes.

[Ian Crossland]

And she said they spent, they're called dumbs, deep underground military bases.

[Tim Albarino]

Military bases.

[Ian Crossland]

But, but I understand about bases. Right. That's where the people go technology wise. What should we be building to reestablish civilization after the cataclysm and we emerge from the bunkers.

[Eric Burleson]

I, I think that we need a race to, I mean this is going to be sound really sci fi, but I Think the fact that we have discovered the Higgs boson particle. Actually, I think it was discovered, what, 12 years ago.

[Phil Labonte]

It's been a minute.

[Eric Burleson]

I mean, that's the particle, that's the field that gives mass or to matter.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Eric Burleson]

And, and I think that we need to really juice the, the, you know, the advanced theory, let's, in order to create things like, I, I, I know, gravity, warp bubbles and things like that.

[Ian Crossland]

Right, right. But if civilization collapses, none of that matter matters. Right. So what technology do you guys think we would have to mass produce right now? So that if civilization collapsed, we emerge from our bunkers a year later. What do we need first and foremost?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I imagine a good question.

[Ian Crossland]

It's actually a really easy answer.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I'm thinking something like, something like hydroponics. So that way you can make sure that you can grow food.

[Ian Crossland]

What do you need to grow food?

[Phil Labonte]

Like, what's water?

[Ian Crossland]

And how do you get water?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, there's a lot of different ways you can get it out of the atmosphere. You can get it out of.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, how would you as a human being, pull water from the atmosphere? Personally, there's actually one thing all civilizations need first and foremost, it's energy.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah. Okay.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. So what kind of energy source would we need to mass produce right now if we're preparing for a cataclysm, I.

[Phil Labonte]

Think solar would be good.

[Tim Albarino]

Solar?

[Ian Crossland]

Solar and wind. Yeah. We would need to convince everybody to start mass producing solar and wind because without, without transmission lines and without transportation lines, petroleum ain't going to save you.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

So the first thing we need to do is how do we convince the entire western population?

[Tim Albarino]

I see where you go with this.

[Ian Crossland]

Just start producing wind and solar.

[Tim Albarino]

Right.

[Ian Crossland]

Because we're going to build these underground cities. And then after the cataclysm, power lines are gone, petroleum. We're not going to know where it is. We're going to have no means, Perhaps satellite, but once we locate it, we don't get the trucks, we don't get the roads. The first thing we'll need is electricity. We put up some wind turbines and we've instantly got a continual source of energy. Or solar panels. Yeah. Right. Now how do we convince people to start shifting the economy towards a direction?

[Tim Albarino]

The climate change narrative.

[Ian Crossland]

So this is, this is where it gets really funny. The climate change narrative has never come true. They keep saying it every 10 years. It just don't happen. And I start thinking about, and I'm like, how do you convince a market economy to start building something unprofitable you don't. Unless the end. Yeah, but if you told people that there actually was a poll shift coming and we were going to face a cataclysm, freak out, it stopped working.

[Tim Albarino]

Exactly.

[Ian Crossland]

Truck drivers would stop driving trucks.

[Tim Albarino]

No, that's a very good. It's a very good theory.

[Ian Crossland]

So I, you know, theory, but it was an idea. I was thinking, like when I was reading all this stuff, I'm just thinking, not that I think it's going to happen, I don't know. But I was just thinking about these poll shift. What I was watching that Tucker Carlson episode with Katherine Austin Fitz saying they spent $21 trillion on deep underground cities. You know, that's. I think that's an exaggeration. They're deep underground military bases. These are. These exist. Elon Musk has confirmed the existence of them. Limestone caverns, not. They exist. And then I was thinking, like, if I was going to build a bunker, what's the first thing I would need when I got out? I'm like, well, nothing else matters unless you have electricity. You need energy sources. So we'd probably want to have a lot of cables, a lot of, you know, the electronic components to run machines. Electric cars would be great too, because we're not going to have a petroleum refinery. We are going to have alternative sources of energy. We can charge a car off, off of the grid of a small series of wind turbines or solar. And they've done it. They've convinced everybody through legislation and cultural action to start building exactly what we would need in the event of a cataclysm.

[Tim Albarino]

So do you think that the people who. Let's say that in this thought experiment, the people who know. The people who know it's coming, do you think that they really care about the populations of Earth or just protecting themselves, their families, Population of Earth.

[Ian Crossland]

But come on, like Noah's Ark, he couldn't save everybody.

[Tim Albarino]

So you think that they would actually be bringing people down into these deep underground military bases? Yes, at some point. See, I don't. I think they care about the preservation of certain, certain people on planet Earth. But the vast majority of people, I don't think they really.

[Ian Crossland]

But, but that's not the question. The question was, would they bring people down? Of course they will.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they're gonna. They're gonna. There's going to be a select group of people that they deem necessary to the expansion and survival of humanity, and it ain't going to be Joe the Plumber. Literally, that guy, Joe the Plumber, remember him from 10 years ago. It's not going to be him. Mary was 10, so she doesn't remember.

[Phil Labonte]

There was a phrase that I heard in, in this context. It's just most people are useless eaters is what they were called.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, that was Yuval Harari.

[Phil Labonte]

Like they just people that, that don't do anything particularly important. Right. But there are going to be people that are, I mean and I would be among the useless eaters. I'm a guy that.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I just want to say real quick, I mean I think everyone agrees, quick witted and charismatic individuals who can talk very well are very important for civilization. So you know, may, maybe I'll get a phone call, you know, maybe.

[Phil Labonte]

But you know, the weather is real close. The, the fact of the matter is in any scenario where there's going to be a large population, a large portion of the population dying off, they're going to select for people that will be beneficial to help continue the population. The, the bad idea or the, the negative of that is when nepotism and, and, and, and wealth are the only factors. You know, if you can buy your way in, you buy your way in for your family and you know, your kids a loser or you're both your kids are a loser and they're addicted to drugs.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think so.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't, I, I'm hope, I hope not. But that would be the, the, the worst case scenario is when too many people that have access, that are, don't actually provide a benefit. You know, there, there, I mean there has to be a certain number of people in order to continue the pop. You know, continue.

[Ian Crossland]

You know what I think they would do though we did talk about this before, you know, I think they would do, they would publicly offer up space for everybody. And the way it would work is they'd say public announcement, guys, you can see the weird thing happening in the sky. Don't freak out. We have prepared emergency bunkers. You will be safe. Come on down.

[Tim Albarino]

They'll never tell you the population.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no, no, no, you're coming down. Trust me. You come, you, you, you got in line and there's a big line and they're going to be like, you know, Mr. Alberto, right this way. And you're going to walk in and they're going to say thank you for coming. We've got a great facility for you. We've built it. You and your family are welcome. Just go through the door to my right and pay no attention to the door to the left and you'll go, all right. And when you walk to the door to the right, it opens up and you go. You just fall on top. That way you avoid any kind of civil unrest. And then people outside are like, what happened to Tim? It's like they let him in. Great. And then you. Someone else comes down and they say, and who are you? It's like, I'm a rocket scientist. I can synthesize chemicals and rocket fuel. And they go, go to the door on the left and he opens it up and it's a royal palace.

[Mary Morgan]

What about those rocket scientists? Families?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. They can go with them. Yep. Yeah. How do you avoid civil unrest if they start trying to bring people down into these bunkers when not everybody's going to go. You can't just say, only some are allowed because people will go out with guns and be. And fight their way in. You tell them everything's going to be okay. Your door is there. And when they walk through that door, it's right into a meat grinder.

[Tim Albarino]

And like I said, the Ancients were tracking this cataclysm every six thousand, 480 years according to the zodiac. The purpose of the zodiac, by the way, is to track cyclic cataclysm. It's one of the primary purposes. And we are due. This is what's. As I said, this is the transition of one aeon to the next, one age to the next age of Aquarius into the Age of Aquarius. That's right, from Pisces. We're presently in Pisces. And when we make this transition, it will be cataclysmic. And the Ancients knew this. And it's very possible that there's a group of people alive today who also.

[Ian Crossland]

Know this song always creeped me out.

[Eric Burleson]

The Age of Aquarius.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I knew it meant something bad. Let's jump. Let's jump to this next story, which is not related at all, but still fun. Eric Davis tells Congressman Burleson he is aware of four alien species. It's kind of hard to hear, but let's play. Are they. Are they multiple species? Are they.

[Eric Burleson]

What was their size and how many are usually on a craft?

[Mary Morgan]

They're typically the multiple species people are.

[Tim Albarino]

Familiar with the Grays, the Nordics.

[Ian Crossland]

People were talking about Reptilians and Insectoids.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not that they're Reptilian or Insectoids.

[Ian Crossland]

That they resemble to the precision of reptile. All right, instead of just playing the video, you can tell us what was he saying? He said there's. There's four different alien species that he knows of.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, that was not what I was going to do, what I expected him to say. I, I, and, but yeah, he, he said, so who is this guy? This is Eric Davis. Is, has been involved in the intelligence community since the 80s, right. So he's.

[Tim Albarino]

For a long time.

[Eric Burleson]

For a long time. And he's, he first worked for Bigalow airspace and then he went on to get, get work for the Pentagon and then CIA and you know, basically researching what, what they describe as crashed material.

[Ian Crossland]

Retrieved.

[Eric Burleson]

Retrieved crashed material.

[Ian Crossland]

And he was saying definitively they know four alien species. Like, he's saying they're real right now.

[Eric Burleson]

Whenever I pressed him and asked him, at least in that setting, he, he did not say that he personally has seen these. Right. But, but he described the four different types of aliens, the grays, the Nordics, the insectoids, and the reptilians that are commonly referred to in the UFO community.

[Ian Crossland]

You know what I love about this video is that the person added glowing eyes to the Nordic dude. Because if you didn't, it's just some blonde guy.

[Tim Albarino]

Just some blonde dude. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And that's what I love about the, the. So there are people who believe that one of the alien species we encounter are these Nordics. They're like tall, blonde, white people. And I'm just thinking like, Sven is a Swedish Air Force pilot and he crashed, crashes one of their experimental vessels. And then as he's exiting it, some farmer sees him and he's like, it's an alien. And he's like, I'm literally just Swedish Air Force. And they're like the Nordic aliens from Sweden. Now come on. Like, I don't understand how people could have witnessed aliens that look just like Swedish people or Norwegians and then have decided that they were aliens.

[Tim Albarino]

Well, if they see him on board alien craft, that would do it.

[Phil Labonte]

No, but it's just like, you're very tall.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, if I was, if I woke up and I was in some like strange hovering craft and there was just a bunch of like random white dudes with black hair, I wouldn't be like, aliens are white people with black hair. I'd be like, oh, humans have built hovercraft.

[Tim Albarino]

Okay, well, there's some distinctions for sure. I mean, all of these and by the way, people who studied, researched UFOLOGY for a long time, these are precisely the four that we would expect Davis to acknowledge.

[Ian Crossland]

But could it just be he's just saying what you want to hear?

[Tim Albarino]

I doubt that he would do that. He's very serious individual. He and hell put off have been in the. They've had access to projects, knowledge of projects, and been working behind the scenes with the government, various institutions, private and public on this for a long time. And they're very serious scientists, both of these guys highly credentialed.

[Ian Crossland]

And so do you believe that these four alien species are real?

[Tim Albarino]

I would say for me personally, the first three, absolutely 100%.

[Ian Crossland]

Not the reptilian ones.

[Tim Albarino]

I'm not sure about reptilians. A lot of people talk about Reptilians, but there's actually quite a lot of, I would say, anecdotal evidence for the existence of the Grays, of the Nordics, and of the Insectoids, or what the late David, or he's not dead yet. David Jacobs, Dr. David Jacobs calls insectilens, which are these. Which are like the. They're sometimes referred to as the mantis beings. And these are encounters, especially the grays. And the mantis beings are actually encountered quite often on board vessels. On board alien vessels. And the Nordics aren't just. It's not just like you're looking at Scandinavian people. They, they're telepathic. All communication with these things is telepathic.

[Eric Burleson]

And I've heard that they don't exactly look like a human.

[Tim Albarino]

No, no, there's some subtle differences. Yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

They, they, they would not just blend into the population. No, that's at least. And I'm not saying I believe it. I'm just saying that's what I've been told.

[Ian Crossland]

What if it's just people from the future?

[Eric Burleson]

I think that's an interesting thought experiment, right? That what we're experiencing are future. Future generations of humans who have mastered time travel. And if you master time travel today, wouldn't you want to go back and see what was going on and in.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, you, you, history?

[Eric Burleson]

I would.

[Ian Crossland]

You'd have to.

[Eric Burleson]

I'd want to. I'd want to go back and see, you know, hey, I want to see what the pharaoh really look like.

[Mary Morgan]

Okay. I want to see what confounds me, though, as someone who's not just a skeptic, but someone who just straight up doesn't believe in alien.

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[Mary Morgan]

Now, if that were true, would the powers that be in the intelligence agencies really just come right out and talk about it so openly?

[Ian Crossland]

They don't, though. Well, we just heard that this guy's former, isn't he?

[Mary Morgan]

Well, no, I mean, you're never former intelligence.

[Tim Albarino]

Well, I mean, what's happened is, is we've had two hearings now and we've had whistleblowers come forth like David Grush, and they have forced the conversation into the public arena. They forced the conversation. Then you have guys like Congressman Burleson and his colleagues who are, who are fighting for disclosure. Without that battle, without that effort, you, you wouldn't be hearing about any of this. You wouldn't have these guys coming forward. You wouldn't have Eric Davis coming forward and making these declarations. I wouldn't, I don't necessarily, wouldn't necessarily call it a declaration. Who's answering your question? But this is a new environment. We're, this isn't, we're in a new space now. You know, post hearings, post UAP hearings. And so I, I think five years ago I would have agreed with you, but that's, that's just not the case anymore.

[Ian Crossland]

I think the reason they don't say it is because, just put it this way, how would you feel if you woke up and realized you were in a rat cage your whole life and everything you knew was just some stupid rat experiment for somebody? You know, like when we, when we look at rats in a cage, in a lab, we like, we pity them. What, what if everything you've ever done in your life, everything you hoped for, your dreams, you woke up tomorrow and you knew was completely meaningless? The, the research you've done, the, the, the religion you held, everything was just.

[Eric Burleson]

Totally nonsense, so that you're living in a simulation. Yeah, right.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Or like, what if, you know, you have the rat utopia experiment? They put all the rats in a box and gave them food and water and then watched what happens and the rats had no idea. What if that's what we're in? They wouldn't want to tell you because you'd lose your mind.

[Mary Morgan]

I think they would want to tell you. That's why I think that this is a whole deception. Why would they demoralize the population?

[Ian Crossland]

It's not just demoralizing. You'd stop working. People would, I mean, if you're if you're the king of the rats in the rat experiment and you like your luxuries and your boats, you don't want the people to wake up and realize that their rats in a box would stop working. You want them to keep working for you.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, yeah. You want them to continue to be non player characters.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I jokingly told Joe Rogan that the, the reason the globalists want a one world government is because we can't join the Galactic Federation until we have a unified governing body. Because who is the Galactic Federation going to negotiate with? Russia or the United States? It would just cause problems. And Joe responded with I don't think there's a Galactic Federation. I said, Joe, I know I'm kidding. But now I'm not kidding. The Galactic Federation won't let the Earth enter because we're, we're a pre. What, what is it called? There's a term for this. There's the degrees of civilization or whatever.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah. Michu Kaku talks about this.

[Phil Labonte]

Type one.

[Tim Albarino]

Type one civilization.

[Ian Crossland]

And we're like, Type zero is like when your planet unifies under one governing authority.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

So we're like not even there. Yeah, we're just a bunch of type.

[Eric Burleson]

1 definition of the who.

[Phil Labonte]

Type 1 is you use the entire, the output of your entire. You can manage the star that you're surround that you are orbiting sphere. Yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Type 2 is where you can manage the power in your galaxy, I think or no, in your solar system. And then after that and it goes up from there. But it basically gets to the point, I think type 4 was where you can, you can basically you transcend Kardashians. That's what it is. The Kardashev scale.

[Ian Crossland]

Think a type 1 civilization is able to access all the energy available to on its planet and store it for consumption. Type 2 can consume a star's energy through the use of a Dyson sphere. And a type 3 can capture all the energy emitted by its galaxy and every object within it. Yeah, but like why would we assume a type 3 civilization exists? Have we witnessed ever, any ever through a telescope? A galactic species?

[Phil Labonte]

But everything's really far away, man.

[Tim Albarino]

You can't talk about this phenomenon though as if we're not encountering it. That's a difference. You can't say that this is just theoretical, that maybe, maybe what these whistleblowers are talking about is real. Now many, many people at this point have experienced the phenomenon up close and personal, have seen Kraft. The government has admitted at the very least that the, that Some of the footage that was leaked by the New York times back in 2017 is authentic footage and so far has not been able to debunk at least two of. Of those videos, I think, namely Gimbal and the Nimitz incident. I mean, these are legitimate mysteries. And this, this is technology. What we're seeing is technology. I mean, it's not figment.

[Mary Morgan]

Aliens are demons.

[Ian Crossland]

Could be.

[Mary Morgan]

Why is that laughable? Well, you're saying you're asking the right.

[Eric Burleson]

Person to answer that question.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, I laugh because that's the most common question that, that I get personally.

[Ian Crossland]

But, but why. But they, they could be just called by a different name, you know.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah. And I would say. I would say that we have reason to believe that some of them are at the very least, demonic.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, what I mean by that is the Christian understanding of a demon, which is not a physical being and can appear to be whatever they want to. To deceive people.

[Tim Albarino]

Well, the Christian understanding, the traditional Christian understanding standing of a demon doesn't involve UFOs and technology either, but it does involve deception. It does involve deception, certainly. Yeah. I mean, that takes us down a very intricate path. The. There's a difference between the Western perspective, the Western Christian perspective of a demon, and then if you're going to be very specific to the biblical perspective perspective of a demon, those are very two different things. So in the West, Christians in the west will identify anything that's scary or grotesque or nefarious as a demon or demonic in general. Whereas in Hebrew cosmology, it's a very narrow. There's a very narrow description. A demon is literally and exclusively the disembodied spirit of a dead giant.

[Eric Burleson]

An unclean spirit.

[Tim Albarino]

An unclean spirit, yeah. Within the context of the biblical narrative. So we have a different definition, Nephilim, Right? That's right.

[Eric Burleson]

The dead spirit that remains after the cross breed between an angel and a human.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

When the.

[Ian Crossland]

And then what is an angel?

[Tim Albarino]

Well, I mean. I mean, are we talking within the. Are we talking within the context of the biblical narrative?

[Ian Crossland]

So, so as you described the, the demon as the spirit of the Nephilim. Is that what it is?

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah. And according to Hebrew cosmology, yes, a demon is exclusively the disembodied spirit of a dead giant. But nephilim.

[Ian Crossland]

And so a Nephilim is a angel human.

[Tim Albarino]

A Nephilim is a hybrid. It was the product of copulation between an angelic being and a human female.

[Ian Crossland]

Then what is the angelic being in that context?

[Tim Albarino]

Well, I would describe that angelic being as an extraterrestrial. I mean, in the Bible, you have. In the Book of Job, we read that the sons of God, the morning stars sang, they shouted for joy when the foundations of the earth were laid. So that right there we can understand from a biblical perspective that the angels pre exist us. They. They. And they're not from planet Earth. Their origin is not planet Earth. They come from somewhere else. They are therefore technically extraterrestrial.

[Mary Morgan]

It doesn't mean that they're. They have a physical form, though, just because they pre exist us. They. I. In my opinion, they're purely intellectual, purely spiritual beings who don't have a physical form, and therefore, how would they be capable of having relations with a human female?

[Tim Albarino]

We're talking about angels here.

[Ian Crossland]

Is Nephilim in the modern Christian Bible?

[Tim Albarino]

Yes, Genesis. There's a famous reference to nephilim in.

[Eric Burleson]

Genesis 6, specifically as hybrids in the Book of Enoch.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, it primarily comes from the Book.

[Ian Crossland]

Of Enoch, but they're specifically referenced as hybrids between angels in the Book of Enoch. How does that reconcile if.

[Tim Albarino]

Right. So in the Book of Enoch, there's this 200. There's these 200 watchers. They're called watchers. That reference is found in the biblical narrative as well, in the Book of Daniel, it's a very important reference. But in the Book of Enoch, there's 200 watchers. And these are not earthly beings. These are heavenly beings. They're looking down at the earth, and they are enamored of human women, of the daughters of men, and they actually lust after them, according to the Book of Enoch. So the. What I call the first cause of the watcher's transgression is lust. They're lusting after human women. And again, according to the Book of Enoch, they concoct this plan that they're going to descend to the earth and they're going to marry. They're going to select a wife, each one of them, and they're going to marry these women, and then they're going to copulate with them and procreate through them. So all of this activity, I mean, this. It wouldn't make any sense if you were just. If you didn't have a body, if there was no corporal reality involved.

[Tim Pool]

Just to quickly mention, the Book of.

[Ian Crossland]

Enoch was never included in the Old.

[Tim Pool]

Testament or the New Testament, just to be clear, because that's something that's important.

[Tim Albarino]

To me as well. The Book of Enoch was never canonized. No. Although it was adopted into the canons of the Tawahito Orthodox Church. And also the ancient Jewish Orthodox in Ethiopia. So, I mean, there was a lot of controversy about the Book of Enoch a long time ago. And it.

[Ian Crossland]

But just. Just to clarify, in the, like, King James Bible, it mentions Nephilim.

[Tim Albarino]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

And several times, specifically as hybrids between angels and women.

[Tim Albarino]

Yes. Genesis 6. Well, it doesn't specifically say hybrids between angels and women. It talks about the sons of God that they saw that the daughters of men were fair, were comely, and they. They married them. They took wives from among the daughters of men. And then there's a reference to the Nephilim. The Nephilim were in the earth in.

[Eric Burleson]

Those days, mighty men.

[Ian Crossland]

I just asked because, Mary, your view is that angels are purely spiritual beings.

[Mary Morgan]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

How would the Bible describe angels have. Taking wives if they were not physical.

[Eric Burleson]

Or eating with people? Like the. What was the angel that met with Abraham? Yeah, right, right.

[Mary Morgan]

And with Lot, we're just putting a very reductive and human view over something that just transcends our understanding.

[Tim Albarino]

Well, it depends on what. What. What world. What world view you're coming from? What is your. What is the framework of your perspective? And if you're framing this within a biblical context, then it becomes a theological question. And we can, you know, make references to certain things that angels do within the biblical narrative and make a theological case that angels do, in fact, have corporal reality. They have physical bodies. They do things. They lust. I mean, lust is a real problem for me personally. If you have. If you have a being that's lusting but doesn't have a body, how does that work? I mean, how can you. How can you feel the sexual impulse without, you know, without the equipment, so to speak? So that's why I call it the first cause of the Watcher's descent of the Watcher's Sedition. What am. What amounts to sedition against the kingdom of Heaven? They descend to the earth because they lust after human women and they desire to copulate with them and procreate through them.

[Mary Morgan]

But the fall of the angels was because of Satan's rebellion, which originated from pride.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, we're talking about two different scenarios. The Watchers is actually a different event. That's something that happens in the days of Jared, according to the Book of Enoch. Okay, so the descent of these 200 watchers is. Is a. And by the way, this.

[Ian Crossland]

Why was Enoch not included?

[Tim Albarino]

That's a. That's kind of a difficult question to answer. The easy answer is because the Jews rejected the Book of Enoch in. In their. In their canon. And I think that the reason why the Jews rejected it was because it testified of the man they had crucified, namely Jesus of Nazareth. The Book of Enoch, specifically the Book of Enoch, is very complex. It's not just one. There's, it's not one singular author. It's a compilation of texts. And the earliest portions of the Book of Enoch were written long before the birth of Christ, at least 300 years before the birth of Christ. But there's portions of Enoch that are dated that, that have a later date that are after Christ. And so it's not a singular author, it's not a singular manuscript, but the earliest portions of the Book of Enoch are fundamental foundational to a Hebrew cosmology in the, the narrative of the Watchers, which comes from the first Book of Enoch, the earliest manuscript, which is the Book of the Watchers, and then b, even to the eschatology of the writers of the New Testament. Their view of the end times, their view of the role of the Messiah in the end times, much of that comes directly from the Book of Enoch. So they were clearly influenced by the Book of Enoch. In fact, there's verses from the Book of Enoch, from 1 Enoch, that are literally copied and pasted verbatim in the New Testament in the Book of Jude. So clearly the writers of the New Testament were conversant with Enoch and at least considered some of it, whether oral tradition or the written text as scripture. And that, that actually was a, was hotly debated. This was a matter of great contention in the early Church. Many of the church fathers believed that the Book of Enoch was scripture or at least had some, some value, and, and, and others did not. And, and there was a, there was a battle that took place and, and ultimately they decided to not include it in the canon.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think then that like these, these religious texts are actually more ancient aliens? As if like aliens visited Earth, then procreated with people and did stuff to Earth? Or do you believe it actually is mystical, spiritual, etc.

[Tim Albarino]

You mean any text, or are you specifically referencing the Book of Enoch, the.

[Ian Crossland]

Bible, like Abrahamic view of religion and faith?

[Tim Albarino]

Well, I, personally, I would say that the premise of ancient astronaut theory is true. Biblically speaking, the premise that mankind has indeed been interacting with, with extraterrestrial beings since the beginning. I mean, the Bible would affirm this enthusiastically. The text of Scripture affirms this. In fact, this is part of the problem that we've had, because in the beginning we were deceived by one of these beings, namely Satan, the dragon, the devil. This nefarious person that's never actually named in the Bible. So I think, again, the premise of ancient astronaut theory is true, but then I would disagree with, you know, the aliens having a hand in building the pyramids and things like that. Although, although I do believe personally that the, the Enochian tale, the narrative of first Enoch, specifically from the Book of the Watchers, the earliest portion, is historically true. I personally believe that. I do believe that 200 watchers descended to the earth and, and took wives from among the daughters of men, copulated with them, the women conceived and gave birth to giants. In fact, this general narrative is found all over the ancient world. I mean, there's a universal testimony. This is usually framed in the context of the Golden Age or as the ancient Egyptians refer to it as Zep Tepi the first time. And in every case, I mean, every primary ancient civilization has a legend like this. The gods descended to the earth and.

[Ian Crossland]

They were all 8ft tall or something.

[Tim Albarino]

Well, the gods themselves, I'm not sure, but their progeny are most often described as giants.

[Ian Crossland]

Were they green?

[Tim Albarino]

I don't think so.

[Ian Crossland]

There's. Because you've got the gins and the genies in the Middle East. Yeah, eight foot tall, green and blue. And then you've got quasi codal in Central America.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And so people I've read questions about why different cultures, the other side of the planet have similar myths of similar beings.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, well, specifically, when you talk about giants and this, this story in general, this, the narrative that I just laid out, that the gods descended, cohabited with human beings, copulated with human women, and pro. Generated a race of giants that is ubiquitous, that is ubiquitous across every major ancient, ancient civilization, believe something like that, that general narrative.

[Ian Crossland]

The Hindus that believed that, yes, they.

[Tim Albarino]

Believe that the gods, I mean, they, they have, in the, in the Indian epics, the, the gods are, are engaged in, in an epic war with one another using advanced technology, advanced aerospace technology, which they call vimanas.

[Ian Crossland]

And then, of course, we know the, the Hellenistic religions believe that was it like Zeus came down disguised as a duck or something.

[Eric Burleson]

Hercules emerged.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Albarino]

It's the same basic narrative that you find in every ancient culture.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, but you know, the, the, the, the Hellenistic religions are so weird. Like Zeus, what did he like, turn himself into a duck and then came down and like, bang some woman? I'm not kidding.

[Phil Labonte]

They did all kinds of stuff like that. They were, they were constantly involved in the lives of men.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, well, you have to understand that myths are, the myths are devised to transmit knowledge through time. So these stories are crafted.

[Ian Crossland]

Swan. Sorry, not a duck.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, these crafted, these stories are so, are so bizarre. They're intentionally crafted this way so that they can be orally transmitted through time. And the people who transmit the myths think that they're just these. Well, in the, in the ancient times they believe them literally. But when in reality they encapsulate information, historical, scientific information. That's what, that's what myths are designed to do.

[Ian Crossland]

They can corrupt as well. And that's probably, you know, we call that the purple monkey dishwasher phenomenon.

[Tim Albarino]

You mean the myths can corrupt that?

[Ian Crossland]

Just information transmitted from generation to generation corrupts?

[Tim Albarino]

Can be. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Without hard data preserving it.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, I would agree with that.

[Ian Crossland]

And so then these stories that you're hearing, I mean one of the arguments you hear a lot from, from atheists is that the Bible, or actually not even from atheists, but from Christians actually. So the interpretation, the converting of language in the Bible several times back and forth has resulted in certain words not being appropriate. Like some have argued that it's not seven days, it's seven eras or seven eons or you know, days was just a meta, was just a statement of a unit of time.

[Tim Albarino]

You mean, you mean in regard to the creation days in Genesis?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, this is one example where people say that's true, that it doesn't mean seven days, it means.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, there's, yeah, there's dispute about that. I mean you have young Earth creationists who believe that the earth is literally 6,000 years old. And then you have old Earth creationists who believe that the Earth is probably billions of years old. And they have a different interpretation based on the text, based on a different interpretation of the words.

[Ian Crossland]

Imagine if you described modern technology to any like North Sentinelese person, right. Showing them this or you know, let's just put it this way, all technology is completely wiped out, just gone. And we wake up one day and we're in the middle of the woods and we're bug naked and you've got a newborn kid and the kid's growing up, kids 10 years old. You're trying to explain to this kid how life used to be. And you'd say we had these things we called screens and computers. You could literally just press buttons. This little. A button. We don't have buttons anymore. How do you describe what a button is? It's a little thing you push down, it goes in, it comes out. Sending us, sending information, telling a machine. And on the screen you could see anywhere in the world what are they going to Tell what story will you get out of that?

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ian Crossland]

It's going to be a witch with a cauldron looking into a reflection of water and seeing the land of Oz.

[Tim Albarino]

That's right. I agree. So, Trent, and if we can take an example from the Bible. I mean, in the Bible, you have these flying objects called the chariots of God or the chariots of Israel, and they show up on several occasions. And clearly these are, in my estimation, these are advanced aerospace vehicles. I mean, there's somebody who's piloting them and, you know, the ancients thought of them as a chariot with fiery horses or a fiery chariot, chariots of fire, rockets and. Well, I mean, how else. How would you. A chariot was the most advanced mode of conveyance in the ancient world. So they have no concept of combustion. Right.

[Ian Crossland]

They have no word for plane.

[Tim Albarino]

They have no word for airplane or rocket or anything like that. The only thing that flies in the sky are birds. So how do you describe this advanced aerospace vehicle that you're seeing? Well, what's the most advanced vehicle of conveyance that you have to reference? And that would be a chariot. But these chariots fly. So if a chariot flies, why does it. Why does, why does it. You know, last time I checked, horses don't fly. You know, so obviously I think that Iron Age people are seeing things and they're conveying them in the way that seems most accurate to them. And I think in some instances, we've. We've made the mistake of interpreting some of that literally. I don't believe in flying horses. I think what they were seeing was advanced aerospace vehicles.

[Mary Morgan]

I'm confused because my, my assumption from texts like that is not that they're describing it in a way that's culturally relevant to them, but that it was presented to them in a way that was culturally relevant and understandable to them. So they would see chariots because it was intended for them to see that.

[Tim Albarino]

I see what you mean.

[Mary Morgan]

Like, the way that angels appeared to people is not. This is. In the Catholic view, it's not the way.

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[Mary Morgan]

Now they actually look because they don't have a physical form, they appear to you in a way that communicates their nature. This is a way that humans can understand.

[Tim Albarino]

This ascribes the angels metamorphic powers. They might as well be genies. And I don't believe that. I think, I think they're not all that different from us. And in fact you know I write about this in my book Birthright. But I think that we are the younger sibling in the family of God and that angels are our angelic elder siblings. And we're not all that different. In fact we're so alike that we can procreate, we can breathe.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, I just think all that loose.

[Ian Crossland]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Phil Labonte]

So it, it is true that like nuclear weapons are prohibitively expensive. Not that they're totally unreachable. But nation states have a difficult time coming up with the resources so and it's not saying that mass destruction.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't want to explain too much, but there was a gentleman who made a extremely powerful radioactive weapon which I don't want to get into because it wasn't difficult for him to do.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yep. Let's grab some more. Dick Dickerson says Republic, Missouri. Checking in. Love our Congressman. Right on.

[Eric Burleson]

Oh, thank you.

[Ian Crossland]

Schlip says Rep. Burleson, can we Count on your support for getting the full Hearing Protection act and Short act passed.

[Eric Burleson]

I'm, I'm working very hard to just.

[Phil Labonte]

Slide it in there. It's one piece of paper. Just one piece of paper.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, I, I've been since we had our conference in May. I went to the microphone and told the speaker and all the leaders we got to do this and, and I got an applause.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean look, right on. This is something that the, the Republicans should, should get behind any, anyone that says that they're pro second Amendment, they should be getting behind the Short act and the Hearing Protection Act. These are very basic rights that the, the second Amendment is clear about.

[Ian Crossland]

Let's go. Derpasaurus Rex says Phil, have Adam D wear his cape for the San Diego concert.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. You can never ever tell what Adam's going to wear at any one particular show. It might be a cape, might be a tutu, it might be a short shorts, but it will likely be ridiculous.

[Ian Crossland]

Mechanical, Mechanical mercenary says call your congressman and demand a vote on Short act and shush act bills that would remove silencers short barrel rifles from the nfa. Keep calling and leave messages.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Ian Crossland]

It is the stupidest thing imaginable that short barreled rifles and suppressors are regulated as such because these are exactly what you want for home defense. If look, we're out in the middle of nowhere, I don't want to pull out like a Remington, you know, long shotgun or anything. I'd like to use a short barrel rifle with a suppressor for safety reasons literally. And you can't do it. Absurdity.

[Eric Burleson]

It's crazy.

[Ian Crossland]

Yep. I think it's because movies liberals genuinely think that suppressors go the, the SBR.

[Phil Labonte]

Inclusion on the NFA was because they initially were going after pistols and then the people were like no, no, no, we don't want pistols to be regulated like that. And so they actually the short barrel rifles thing was a compromise which is ridiculous because the point is, oh, you don't want to be able. Or the argument was you don't want to be able to conceal a rifle or conceal a gun. But they couldn't get handguns onto it. So initially it was about getting handguns. Then they walked it back and the compromise was rifles with a barrel length under 16 inches, which is ridiculous.

[Eric Burleson]

It just makes, it makes the laws hard to understand for average citizens. And that's what it's intended for.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Eric Burleson]

They like it because most people don't want to run afoul and so wasn't.

[Ian Crossland]

It isn't it like if you put a 4 grip on a pistol, it can turn into an SBR.

[Phil Labonte]

If you have an AR pistol and you have. You can have an angled foregrip or a hand stop. But if you put an actual four grip then you are actually taking it from being a pistol and making it in any other weapon which is needs to be registered under the nfa. It's ridiculous. And it only makes criminals out of legal, you know, of normal Americans that want to exercise their rights legally.

[Ian Crossland]

Jack Rivers Poker. That's. That's who brought it up. He said 86 is from the Las Vegas mob. Eight miles out and six feet under, which is why it's commonly used in the service industry. It's from old Vegas.

[Phil Labonte]

I didn't know that it.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, there you go. I don't know if that's true or not, but a guy on the Internet said it, so I'm going to believe it. What do we have here? Neglectful Sausage says need a new. Need a new TV show. Better than Ellie being. Being a dad. Try Made in Abyss. It has a deep emotional ties between characters. A descent into madness with Eldrich horrors and an adventure to find family. Really? Yeah. I've skipped last of us 2 season 2 cuz I knew it was bad as already. Last of Us one was was bad enough. You know. Did you guys watch it?

[Mary Morgan]

It didn't get enough credit for how bad it was actually.

[Ian Crossland]

I. I agree. I think the. The forced gay sex scenes they included in that movie, which aren't in the video game really, really put it over the edge of bad. But you know.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, well, they weren't like full on doing it. But I don't want to watch dudes kissing either. Like that just grosses me out. And most people who are more polite than me and they won't say it out loud. It's just gross. And that's Episode. Episode three.

[Ian Crossland]

So it was super controversial when it came out.

[Mary Morgan]

You had to put up with that to just watch the rest of this.

[Ian Crossland]

And it's not in the game.

[Mary Morgan]

It's not in the game and it's actually the opposite of what happened in the game. Like in. In the game you just encounter one of them who survived, who only says that he hates that guy, the dead one. So there's no implication that they. Yeah. That they were like gay lovers. There was just basically a glorified fan theory from what I've.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, Ali's a dad now.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

How is she a dad? Like what's the plot point?

[Mary Morgan]

Her girlfriend gets pregnant in the game. When she finds out that her GF is pregnant from some guy. From some guy, she gets angry because she's like, you're having a baby. This is a liability. We're in life or death situations constantly.

[Ian Crossland]

But in the show, she's like, I'm a dad.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah. And in. In the show, they just were like, yeah, it. Like, let's just rewrite the entire story and make, you know, Ellie happy that this is happening. And they're going to be.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, I. Moms. I do think it was a lesbian.

[Mary Morgan]

Mom and a lesbian dad. I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

I do think it was cringe enough that that's the route they went with the video game. It's the end of the world, and LGBTQ rights are being upheld because I.

[Mary Morgan]

Don'T if anyone would be gay after the apocalypse.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, it would be. It's going to, like, the Handmaid's Tale might be, like, extreme, but. Yeah. I mean, like, if a cataclysm happens and humanity's on the brink of extinction. Yeah. It's going to be pretty authoritarian and militaristic.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah, that's it. And most people would want that, too. If you're. And under those conditions, most people will look to a strong man and they'll align with whoever's.

[Ian Crossland]

But are there going to be a bunch of, like, lib women being like, I'm not having kids.

[Phil Labonte]

They'll die fast.

[Ian Crossland]

I. I know. I think what people need to understand is what the word rape. Where does it come from? It meant to steal, and when the Vikings would steal and destroy, we call that raping and pillaging. But along with that, they would take the women. And I heard a joke when I was in Norway. You guys want to hear it?

[Phil Labonte]

Sure.

[Ian Crossland]

A Norwegian man told me this joke. This is not. I was in Bergen, and I also ate whale, by the way. I did not enjoy it. I had a piece, and he said to me, you want to hear a joke? How come there's no attractive women in Britain? Because we took them all.

[Mary Morgan]

That might actually be true.

[Ian Crossland]

That's his joke. And I was like, wow, that's more.

[Tim Albarino]

Like a statement than right.

[Ian Crossland]

Yep. So I think if the cataclysm. If a cataclysm happened, it's going to be a bunch of just, like, barbarian dudes who are ripped just taking women.

[Eric Burleson]

Tribal leaders, you know, I.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, prisons will become fortresses. Like, I'm like, prisons.

[Eric Burleson]

Like, all those dead.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

30 of all humans in. On the continent of Asia are related to Genghis Khan. For a reason.

[Ian Crossland]

Yep. You know, so like in the Last of Us too, people are. People are, I guess, complaining about there's a scene where she chokes a guy out or something. Did you watch it?

[Mary Morgan]

I only know what happened in the game. I don't. I haven't watched the second season of the show because the first season sucked.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm going to trigger every feminist in that game. The idea of a small. How old is she? Like a teenager. Late teens.

[Mary Morgan]

In the second game, she's a young adult.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. The idea that some young adult female. Female is going to take on like 15 adult men with rifles and clubs. Rambo and she. And win every time. It's just like. Yeah, that's.

[Mary Morgan]

Even the. The Abby character in the game was reamed because it's like, okay, she's buff, but she's a chick. That means she has like, what, half the strength of the average guy who's not even a bodybuilder.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Like, the first game was good. Do you guys know what the game's about? Post apocalypse?

[Tim Albarino]

I saw the first season, but Fungus.

[Ian Crossland]

But the. But the game is not as woke and weird as the show.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, it's pretty. The second game is woken, right?

[Ian Crossland]

It is, but the first one wasn't.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And then they were like, hey, let's ruin the game. Ruin this.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, the first game was kind of woke and weird, though, because I don't like the whole thing where they're. They're having these little girls kissing. Like, that's really.

[Ian Crossland]

That was. That wasn't. That was an add on.

[Mary Morgan]

It was a really.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes.

[Mary Morgan]

It wasn't in the original release.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm pretty sure they released the game and then they did a DLC where Ellie is a little girl in a gay relationship with another little girl.

[Mary Morgan]

Weird.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. They were like, let's just totally run it because the original story was like, a guy's daughter dies, there's a zombie apocalypse. They're fungus zombies, cordyceps. And then he finds this young girl and he protects her. And so for a lot of guys, it was like, I'm going to be a man and save this. This child. And then they turned it in. Then second game comes around. They're like, kill the main character and to have a gay relationship.

[Eric Burleson]

I like the game Assassin's Creed. That's my.

[Ian Crossland]

Which one?

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah, I've played a lot of them.

[Mary Morgan]

What about the new one with the Black Samurai?

[Ian Crossland]

Have you played Assassin's Creed?

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. You. You. You must love it. You know, like the. The Tree of Life is an actual machine and like the Apple of Eden, you know?

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah. They were actually making reference to the Nephilim and.

[Eric Burleson]

And the. The movie was garbage. Yeah, movie was awful.

[Ian Crossland]

The. The premise of the game backstory is basically ancient aliens, like all of the scripture and everything is like you find the Apple Ofine was actually a device, was a computer or something. Yeah. The Apple of knowledge or whatever.

[Eric Burleson]

It's just a fun game to play.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a good game.

[Ian Crossland]

Cyber Ax says my first indie game just released on Steam. Let's Nuke Mars.

[Phil Labonte]

Nice.

[Ian Crossland]

It was part of Based Game Games Jam I learned about in Tim Cast Discord. Get it now on Steam support. Based game devs. Epic.

[Phil Labonte]

Nice.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm working on my game. Working on it. I've taken the racism out of it though.

[Phil Labonte]

Fair enough.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Now. Now white.

[Mary Morgan]

Add it back in.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know, I made the game less fun, you know, but I'm adding bosses. I'm gonna put big boss battles. You know, you gotta fight the cartels and stuff.

[Phil Labonte]

Next thing you gotta make is a side scroller.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Yeah. I used to actually program video games back in the day. I've probably made like 15 different side scroller games.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, really?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah. Long ones too. Like, I made one game that had probably 40 minutes to an hour of gameplay.

[Phil Labonte]

That's nice.

[Ian Crossland]

For a side scroller I made when I was 14 is kind of crazy. Yeah. And it was. It was like. I don't describe it. Side scroller. You played a guy who was for some reason running through a bunch of factories where little monsters were like the factory was going crazy and they were like pistons that would smash you. It was fun.

[Phil Labonte]

That's cool.

[Ian Crossland]

Back in the day, old multimedia fusion we call.

[Phil Labonte]

I didn't know you were a nerd.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh yeah, Flat. I just do. I used to do Flash programming too, but that was a bit harder. So I just switched to the easy stuff. Multimedia fusion. Very easy. All right. We got here. Blazolot says I'm a few days late. But when Tim said he's had a surprise he was working on since last night, I thought it was going to get the Gook song in full. I'm allowed to say that because I'm Korean though. So you know, you. You don't. You don't say that. You don't say. That's my word. All right, what do we got? Let's see. MF Damon Damien says, for all that's holy, the magnetic poles flip every so often, weakening the magnetosphere. But the axis of the Earth doesn't flip with them. The rate of travel from the polls has been accelerating. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Bill Dozer says, while I enjoyed the time I spent this evening at my middle school child's Girl Scout bridging to Brownie Scout, I am Sad I've missed 1 hour and 20 minutes of this conversation. Great guests. You can always watch it later.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I have good news for you. It's on the Internet.

[Ian Crossland]

It's on the Internet. What have we here? Roman 64m says since we have Congressman Eric on, can we take a moment to talk about Republicans screwing us over in the Ways and Means Committee not allowing the Hearing Protection act through. Call David Kustoff now. Wow, man, they're really.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a big deal. It's a big, big deal around here.

[Eric Burleson]

Yeah. Well, I, I've, I'll tell you there. I think Jason Smith, the chairman, would do it if he could get every member of the committee on board. And, and what I've been told is that not every member.

[Phil Labonte]

And this is the. The House Judiciary Commission Committee or House. House, House Ways and Means, because I will be tweeting about that.

[Ian Crossland]

Right on. Well, my friends, it's about time for that uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Thanks for hanging out. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. You can find the uncensored [e-mail] Timcast IRL. Tim, do you want to shout anything out?

[Tim Albarino]

I have a book called Birthright. You can get it on Amazon. And a Book of Enoch I wrote commentary and introduction to the Book of Enoch. You can find that on Amazon as well.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you ever do a documentary about it?

[Tim Albarino]

I've done documentaries on the subject, yes.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, okay. Right. I want to watch it. That's why I was like, where can I. Where can I find it?

[Tim Albarino]

Those documentaries are kind of hard to find now.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Albarino]

I got tons of content on YouTube about all this kind of stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

Right on.

[Tim Albarino]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Cool. I'll check it out. Burleson, you want to shout anything out?

[Eric Burleson]

No, thank. It's great to be on. I just really appreciate it. And.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eric Burleson]

And. And this has been fun.

[Mary Morgan]

Congress.

[Ian Crossland]

Don't doubt. Where can people find you?

[Eric Burleson]

Rep. Eric Burleson on all the socials.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that would be the funniest thing ever. Just want to give a shout out to Congress. Everyone's very happy with the work they're doing. Love y' all.

[Mary Morgan]

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