Fireball Sightings SURGE Amid Drones INVADING US Military Bases, Rumors It's ALIENS

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Episode: Fireball Sightings SURGE Amid Drones INVADING US Military Bases, Rumors It's ALIENS
Date: March 28, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests: Seth Keshel (Election Integrity Analyst, former Army military intelligence officer), Ian Crossland, Phil Carter, Carter Banks

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Episode Overview

This dynamic and wide-ranging episode addresses the sudden surge in fireball sightings across the U.S., mysterious drone incursions at military bases, escalating global conflict rumors (including talk of “aliens”), viral Gen Z influencer controversies, and modern generational and political shifts. The panel veers from hard news to cultural commentary and wild speculation, maintaining an irreverent yet analytical tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fireball Sightings and Drone Incursions: Hysteria, Hoaxes, or Hidden Warfare?

Timestamps: 04:51–16:41 | 30:01–35:07

• Surge in Fireballs:

  • Reports of fireballs up to “four and a half deviations above the mean,” with sightings not just in the U.S. but globally (Vancouver, France, Germany).
  • Official sources suggest “slightly elevated meteor activity” combined with mass social media awareness is behind the uptick.
  • Seth Keshel: “They’re trying to say these are flying at 40,000 miles an hour... there's no drone on earth that's going to be able to move at a speed like that... I’m bearish to jump right on it... until I get more, I’m going to go with meteor.” (09:16)

• Alien & UFO Conspiracies:

  • Ian and the panel riff on Owen Shroyer’s account of seeing flying vehicles over Austin (“one fell and burst into flames, two dispersed”). Debate if these are actual drones, UFO dogfights, or mundane drone accidents.
  • Tim brings up the infamous 2006 O’Hare UFO sighting and Nazi flying saucer myths: “There were people in there who were like we saw this. It hovered for minutes and a half ton of people saw it, and then it shot straight up and punched a hole in the cloud.” (13:21)

• Military-Grade Drones:

  • Discussion shifts to U.S. bases reporting waves of unauthorized, highly advanced drones:

    "Sophisticated drones attacked the US base where we store the nuclear bombers... resistant to jamming, came in waves of 12 to 15, swept over sensitive areas... beyond Iranian capabilities." (30:11)

  • Seth Keshel notes how the path of last year's Chinese balloon conveniently tracked over critical U.S. missile and airbases, speculating on intelligence gathering rather than direct threat.

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2. Generations of Modern Warfare & AI Arms Race

Timestamps: 15:59–26:41 | 37:07–42:22

• Warfare Evolution

  • Seth Keshel: Outlines the “generations” of warfare—iron-age combat, gunpowder, mechanized maneuver, mass destruction (nuclear), insurgent/proxy (4th), and current/future psychological and informational (5th).
  • Tim posits "genetic/biological warfare" as a looming, decisive step (“A virus that kills your enemy is the least amount of work”). (19:00)

• AI in War:

  • Tim speculates on the dangers of turning over weapons control to AIs (“...the AIs are just in a battle and we’re sitting back and watching it happen”). (38:06)
  • The team debates the limitations of quantum computing in military applications—good for breaking encryption, but not strategic predictions.

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3. Viral Gen Z Influencer Crimes & the Social Media Spiral

Timestamps: 70:42–86:43

• ‘Clavicular’ Incident:

  • Breakdown of a Gen Z influencer who filmed himself shooting a dead alligator in Florida, firing at a drone, random shooting with no backstop, and being arrested for assault.
  • Tim: “This is the kind of reckless psychotic behavior...that gets guns banned...he’s a meth addict...sterilized himself...hopped up on a whole bunch of goofballs and now is on camera shooting illegally into these animals.” (73:22)
  • Panel debates whether the stunts are staged, comments on the larger issue of social media-driven extremism for attention.

    “Clearly this generation is needing constant stimulation...they can’t repeat the same stuff, so it’s going to get more and more extreme.” (Seth, 74:19)

• Reflections on Social Media Fakery:

  • “Most of the internet is fake. You’ve got reaction videos...People are reacting to AI videos they make...and get a million views...So I don’t see why anybody would have to do what he’s doing.” (Tim, 85:07)

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4. Marriage, Divorce, and Shifting Social Contracts

Timestamps: 55:24–66:08 | 123:11–130:06

• No-Fault Divorce Debate:

  • Spirited argument between Tim and Ian on the role and ramifications of no-fault divorce. Is it destructive to Western society and the institution of marriage, or a necessary outlet for those in toxic or abusive unions?

    “Marriage is a death contract...that’s why people should not be allowed to break it.” (Tim, 66:03) “I think people should be able to walk away from a marriage at the top of a hat. No, because I don’t owe you anything.” (Ian, 56:19)

• Rights, Traditions, and Social Evolution:

  • Panel touches on historic restrictions on women’s rights (credit, property) and how modern attitudes toward marriage and divorce have changed “marriage into dating.”

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5. Political Analysis: Election Integrity & 2028 Speculation

Timestamps: 90:10–95:33

• Election Integrity:

  • Seth Keshel discusses historical electoral trends and the necessity for political engagement.

    “We have more access to information than any people that have ever lived before, but less discernment than any group of people that ever lived before.” (Seth, 89:45)

• 2028 GOP Nomination:

  • Predictions for post-Trump Republican party: J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio leading the field; the importance of party unity following Democratic House gains.

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6. Harry Potter HBO Controversy & Cultural Identity Politics

Timestamps: 95:33–106:27

• Race-Swapping in Adaptations:
  • HBO’s Harry Potter reboot features a Black Snape and a mixed-race Hermione:

    “Snape being black changes everything...if they follow the book to the T, it’s going to be about Harry Potter’s white supremacist dad picking on the black kid and his mom who...refused to date him.” (Tim, 95:33)

  • Panel debates whether recasting is genuine representation or late-stage “woke” culture war; distinctions between theater’s inclusiveness and cinema’s perceived need for realism.

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7. Listener Questions & Miscellaneous Segments

Timestamps: 108:56–121:27

• Dives into community questions about Chinese terrorism, Canada's Bible hate speech laws (Tim's solution: “Read the Bible in Arabic”), and commentary on famous video game narratives (notably BioShock and its philosophical relevance).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On psychological warfare & biological conflict:

  “If you went to like Putin, and you’re like, do you want to own the world?...Would you rather unleash a virus that kills anyone who would dare oppose you and leaves only the docile? That’s easier.” (Tim, 19:00)

• On modern social media attention economy:

  “To get fame and attention, you have to be a...you have to be retarded. So Clavicular...that’s the kind of thing he thinks he needs to do to get attention, and that’s what’s working.” (Tim, 78:59)

• On no-fault divorce and marriage decay:

  “This is the problem with, with modern society is that marriage is dating now.” (Tim, 65:56)

• On generational shift in outrage culture:

  “Gen Z is just done playing games...the race jokes that are flying out about this are nuts, dude. The memes are going crazy.” (Tim, 105:24)

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Topic Timestamps

• Fireball & Drone Sightings: 04:51–16:41, 30:01–35:07
• Modern Warfare & AI: 15:59–26:41, 37:07–42:22
• Viral Gen Z Crime: 70:42–86:43
• Marriage & Society: 55:24–66:08, 123:11–130:06
• Election & Political Talk: 90:10–95:33
• Harry Potter Controversy: 95:33–106:27
• Listener/Community Q&A: 108:56–121:27

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Episode Tone & Style

The episode consistently shifts between serious analysis, speculative riffing, generational and political commentary, and tongue-in-cheek asides. Tim Pool sets a sharp, questioning tone, both skeptical and irreverent, while guests provide historical knowledge, strategic frameworks, and cultural pushback. Spirited debates—especially on marriage and divorce—emphasize both disagreement and camaraderie, keeping the discussion lively for the audience.

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Conclusion / End Message

The episode winds down with shoutouts and self-promotion for guests’ projects and music, reiterates the need for public involvement in politics, and encourages listeners to join the community conversation. Tim underscores the goal: engaging, sometimes combative, but always thought-provoking dialogue on the modern world’s chaos, culture, and conspiracies.

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Transcript

[Tim Pool]

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[Seth Keshel]

All right, thank you guys for having me on. Tim, appreciate the invitation.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. Who are you? What do you do?

[Seth Keshel]

I am sometimes referred to as America's number two election denier. That's a recent okay left for the book that I just had published. But I've been a in the election integrity space now for over five years since the 2020 election was actually still ongoing. Prior to that I was an army military intelligence officer. I left the service after six years at the rank of captain. I tend to see the world from a strategic view. So I think it's kind of interesting that we are talking about drones being cited over U.S. air Force bases. I like to apply a strategic view to what's going on in the world. I have a long term outlook on things, so I'm a little less susceptible to being downed by black pills online.

[Tim Pool]

All right. On well, should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Of course. Tonight, Ian, Phil Carter, all hanging out. Ian looking like a crazy person intentionally as he does.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm a psyop.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's jump into this first story from Space.com. we're not going right into the heavy military stuff because first we got to address this story that's breaking today. Fireball sightings are surging across the U.S. here's what's really going on. These are missiles being launched by China being intercepted or or as Kellen said, they are probes being deployed by Three Eye Atlas from the aliens seeking to come down and monitor us and our military is intercepting them. Or it could just be that people are paying attention because social media tells them to and they're actually not seeing anything too crazy. It's just normal. But anyway, here's the actual news and the reason why I actually think it's important to talk about this is that many people do believe something else is going on with reports of the UFO disclosures with aliens.gov being registered. People are are pointing out that we are seeing way more fireballs than normal. Space.com says it's happening beyond the U.S. v. Beyond the U.S. vancouver saw a fireball on March 3rd. France, Germany reporting sightings March 8th and 11th. Many fireballs lasted a long time and were seen across wide areas. They say there's definitely been a clustering of fireball sightings. Quote this is the question everybody wants answered. I think we are looking at slightly elevated meteor activity, though still well within statistical expectations and increased awareness and reporting which Happens whenever big events occur. So it sounds like what they're saying is nothing to see here, guys. It's just someone on social media said it was happening. Everybody started looking up and seeing it happen. However, Owen Schroyer recently put out a video saying he saw vehicles in the sky over Austin. One of them fell and burst into flames, and the other two immediately dispersed. People then immediately started to claim, no, no, he was just looking at contrails from planes in the twilight of dusk, which makes no sense because that doesn't describe what he's actually claiming he saw. With this, many people are questioning whether or not what we're actually looking at is sophisticated drone warfare, which we all know has been escalating over the past several years. And with reports of these drone incursions at Air Force bases, could the question be, we are intercepting drones or our

[Ian Crossland]

drones are getting intercepted and they don't want to admit it?

[Tim Pool]

Why would our drones begin intercepted over our airspace?

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe there's an attack over our airspace and they don't want to tell people.

[Tim Pool]

So you're saying that our drones are flying like US Military drones, and somehow they're shooting them down?

[Ian Crossland]

Like a Chinese drone or Iranian drone is in our airspace? Maybe, and they're.

[Tim Pool]

And it's shooting our drone at the same time, but theirs is cloaked.

[Ian Crossland]

There's combat. And then. Well, maybe those drones that dispersed that Owen was talking about was like, oh, that's a good point. Conflict. Like a drone.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, that's actually interesting. Phil's laughing.

[Phil Carter]

I'm smiling. I'm not laughing.

[Tim Pool]

He's got this look on his face. He's like, here goes Ian.

[Phil Carter]

Just smiling.

[Tim Pool]

But actually, that's an interesting point. Owen Schroyer said he saw three vehicles in the sky. One fell and burst into flames. The other two dispersed. Yeah. What if these were drones engaging with each other?

[Ian Crossland]

You know?

[Tim Pool]

Now, real quick, I just said this earlier. I mean, it may actually be very, very simple. Owen Schroyer saw some dude with drones, and imagine you've got, like, you know, a handful of young people flying drones around, and then one crashes and the other two just land. It's not a big deal. It doesn't mean it's aliens or military

[Ian Crossland]

or whatever, because I think if you go up high enough, you're no longer in U.S. airspace. Like, how high up? Until it's just space?

[Tim Pool]

No, you still are.

[Ian Crossland]

You just keep going up, up, up. I mean, what if you're out of Earth's orbit? Is it still considered American airspace at

[Tim Pool]

that point, at some point, it's no

[Ian Crossland]

longer, I think, same with the ocean. You go out far enough, it's no longer American miles.

[Phil Carter]

I think once you go outside of the, the atmosphere and you're in space, then it becomes, you know, not sovereign territory. I mean, you might, you might actually have.

[Seth Keshel]

So until, until we get more information, I'm gonna, I'm gonna sell on the theories.

[Tim Pool]

You want to pull them up.

[Seth Keshel]

I'm gonna sell on. I'm gonna sell on some of these theories until we get a little bit more information. They're trying to say that these are flying at 40, 000 miles an hour. The standard missiles are going to fly at about 2500, I'm sure. A drone. There's no drone on earth that's going to be able to move at a speed like situation where maybe we have more sophisticated ways to detect a cluster of meteors. Like, we actually don't have more earthquakes today than we ever did, but we think we do because now we can detect a 3.7 or a 4.2. So I'm a little bit bearish to jump right on it. I, I like a good conspiracy, but this one seems like until I get more, I'm gonna go with meteor.

[Tim Pool]

So you're saying aliens.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, you know, the, the, the cultural impact of this. This is going to definitely spawn some conspiracy theories because we have a lot of those that are like, there's been a movie and now there's an event. So there was a Greenland came out.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Seth Keshel]

With Gerard Butler. So that might be one of those. But, you know, the cultural impact of aliens, I think, is that Americans need to know the best illegal alien we ever had was e. T. Who learned English and then went home.

[Tim Pool]

Superman.

[Carter Banks]

He's trying to get home the whole time.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he didn't want to be here.

[Ian Crossland]

Nope.

[Tim Pool]

No. Superman is an illegal immigrant. But you know who's going to stop him?

[Ian Crossland]

Was he naturalized?

[Tim Pool]

Superman?

[Phil Carter]

I think. I, I don't know for sure if it's canon, but I assume that they did at some point.

[Tim Pool]

They registered him as their kid, as if he was. He was a Kent. He had their name. They said, oh, look, we had a baby. Because back in the day, if you lived on a farm and gave birth on that farm, that's how you did it.

[Ian Crossland]

So, Seth, you're saying because it seems to be moving at 40,000 miles an hour, there's. It's very unlikely it's a drone.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, there's the official story, which, of course, we've learned that we have to challenge official stories, this is NASA reporting the speeds of these meteorite clusters at about 40,000 miles an hour. Most of them aren't landing anywhere. I think they had one punched through a home in Houston, which was not far, based on what I read from where I used to live.

[Tim Pool]

There was the one in Ohio that would sonic. There's a sonic boom. Everybody heard it. And people saw a flash in the sky and they're like, what is it? Then they came out later and said, oh, it was, it was a meteor.

[Seth Keshel]

This is the one that was caught on the trail cam, right? The green one smashing down.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm thinking of one that was caught on like a dairy farm camera or something. Or a highway camera.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah, I think we're talking, but there's,

[Tim Pool]

there's so many of them. Yeah, they're being, that are being caught on camera.

[Ian Crossland]

They do travel in clusters. Meteors, you know, one big one up into WhatsApp.

[Tim Pool]

I said they're friends.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they love each other, just like humans.

[Tim Pool]

Community. They're on an adventure.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah, they're learning together. Magnetic. So I'm not surprised that we see a lot of them at once. You know, a lot of. Over a course of like a couple months or a few weeks. We see a lot and then we don't see any for a long time.

[Phil Carter]

I mean there, there are four different. I think there's three or four major times or peaks. So in August there's the Presidius meteor shower, the Geminis in December and quadreness in January.

[Tim Pool]

I was talking about this earlier that the Chicago O' Hare 2006 UFO sighting. I had just stopped working there two months prior. It was like August, I think I quit. I have friends who still work there. They saw the ufo. Yeah, I believe them. My one friend said that they were on Manheim Road, which is just to the, I think the east of o' Hare airport. And he was at a red light. He said everybody got out of their cars and we're just like not everybody, but a bunch of people got out of their cars and, and you were just staring up at a saucer floating above the airport. This you got, you know, you know the story, right?

[Ian Crossland]

No, I don't.

[Tim Pool]

Let me pull this one up.

[Ian Crossland]

Mentioned this in the past.

[Phil Carter]

They, there was an actual saucer multiple

[Ian Crossland]

a picture of it spinning drone aluminum.

[Tim Pool]

This is the photo since 2006. This is well before anybody had, you know, like high, high end video cameras on their phones. A pilot apparently leaned, looked over the window of the plane and took this photo of this disc. That plane. Is that a United plane? I can't tell. I worked at America American Eagle, which was right next to the United terminal. The terminal, whatever you call it.

[Ian Crossland]

American Airline.

[Tim Pool]

I worked for American Eagle Airlines.

[Ian Crossland]

American Eagle had an airline.

[Tim Pool]

American Eagle is American Airlines Regional jeans.

[Ian Crossland]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Not the. Not the jeans. Wow. Right next was United and there were people in there who were like we saw this. And it hovered for minutes and a half ton of people saw it and then it shot straight up and punched a hole in the cloud.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you guys heard of the Nazis? They were working on the Nazis. It was. You've heard of them?

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Political movement in the 19. They, they. They were developed this thing called the Bell and it was like a anti gravity flying machine. The Bell that proves it. A Nazi bell. And then like no data on it. I try and look up. Maybe there is and it's just not. Not mainstream.

[Tim Pool]

Well they used to go to the moon.

[Ian Crossland]

The bell.

[Howie Mandel]

What is it?

[Tim Pool]

Is it a lightweight?

[Ian Crossland]

Because there are ways to catch like. Like the e. What is it called? The EEM generator where you can use refraction and to get radiation to create propellant. And then if you're spinning fast enough you can reduce vertical thrust to zero. So you can kind of balance yourself in midair. I mean that tech, you know that technology might be real. That's why they keep sure you're not

[Seth Keshel]

talking about the main on the High Castle. Was it the man in the High Castle kind of had technology like that too where a fictional scenario where Japan and Nazi Germany won World War II. It's a. It's interesting series. It's almost like exactly what you're talking about here.

[Tim Pool]

Well that's based off of the Bell theory. Like.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So there's also theories about Hitler having like occult magic and researchers like he was obsessed with magic and the dark arts so he had like a special division. The funny thing about this is everybody laughs like hahaha. How silly were they? So dumb. The US does exactly the same thing. The, the men who stare at goats project Stargate or whatever. I love this story. The story is that the US created a psyop to scare the Soviets claiming we had psychic powers. The Soviets freak out learning that, learning this information, believing it's real. That the US is developing psychic powers so they create their own psychic unit. And then another division in the United States hears that the Soviets have a psychic unit so they create a real one.

[Ian Crossland]

And that's how we developed emergent psychic powers.

[Tim Pool]

Well there's baby there's that video of that guy, what's his name? Chris Bledsoe, we talked about the other day where he said In April of 2026, Israel and Iran will be firing missiles at each other and the orbs will rise up from the ocean. He claimed that after he got abducted by aliens in 2007, which I know all this sounds nuts. He said that? What was I going to say? That he went to the Pentagon. That's right. And the remote viewers were brought in.

[Phil Carter]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

And then he started describing what he was told. And the remote viewers used their psychic powers to confirm what he was saying. And I was like, so they were all remote viewing men who imagine this. Like, real quick, a guy comes to you and he's like, I was abducted by aliens. They showed me the secrets of the future. And you went, okay, Ian, I need you to come here and confirm this with your psychic powers. And then Ian goes, I think he's telling the truth. I'm like, wow, that proves it. That's what the US military did.

[Ian Crossland]

That's desperation.

[Seth Keshel]

This stuff's going to get more, more and more crazy as, as AI advances. And also looking at how human warfare has advanced, I'm not sure how many of you guys are familiar with fifth generation warfare theories. General Flynn and Boone Cutler wrote the book Introduction to 5G Warfare. And first generation warfare is people slaying each other in fields with iron. And then you move into the second generation, which is gunpowder. Third generation, different ways to maneuver the enemy, planes and tanks.

[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Carter]

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[Seth Keshel]

And then fourth generation is nuclear. And now fifth generation is where we are. Where I can't really see a major US China conflict militarily. The winter you have to nuke them. Right? So it's all psychological and it's going to mess with mine.

[Tim Pool]

I disagree, though, because we've talked quite a bit about the generations of warfare. And fourth generational warfare is so third generation, I believe, is nuclear. It's where you go to mass destruction. Fourth generational is insurgent, where you have proxy wars and militia groups, and it's guerrilla, where both powers are pretending like they're not at war. Fifth generation is where they say you're getting into psychological operations, the manipulation of population. And the way to describe it is imagine you could go to Genghis Khan and say, do not trample the fields on horseback with bow and arrow. Because I can win you the entire, the entire landmass of Asia with just a thought. With a pen, he'd be like, prove it if you could. If, if, if warlords knew by saying words they would have everyone bow to them, they wouldn't go to war. That being said, I actually think that there is a step between psychological warfare, manipulations, post nuclear war, and that is genetic warfare. So the use of biological agents to wipe out populations. So, so imagine this. You go to a warlord and say, okay, three options. Horseback, bows and arrows. That was the dominant weapon at the time. Run through the fields, take everybody out. You own it, right? Okay, you could do that. Or I can write down on all of these pieces of paper and everyone will bow to you as a God once they see you. We'll have to distribute the paper. Could take some time. Some people will still resist, they'll be fighting. Or I have in this vial a virus which will kill everyone of a particular persuasion. And you don't need to say a single word. You will walk in as a liberator. I actually think many of the leaders will be like, release the virus. So before we get to the point where we try to fight for the mind of an individual, why not just purge anyone who would oppose you?

[Ian Crossland]

It's kind of like getting people to fold pre flop. I mean you gotta, you gotta get. Before you. Exactly, you know, before you try and manipulate the rest of them to join you, you would unleash the virus.

[Tim Pool]

The point is this, whatever, psychological warfare is still a battle, a battle for the mind. And so it's certainly safer and less resource. It's less resource, extensive. But I would actually argue that if you went to, if you went to like Putin for instance, and you're like, do you want to own the world right now? Have everything under your sphere of influence? Okay, do you want to fight for 10 years trying to plant these ideas? He'd be like, well, if I have to, would you rather just shoot everybody? He'd be like, I don't know if we have the resources for that. Would you rather unleash a virus that kills anyone who would dare oppose you and leaves only the docile? That's easier. A virus that kills your enemy is the least amount of work. So I actually think again, the point is in the generations of warfare, psychological warfare I think actually may be behind us or in front of us, but I think it's much easier just to release a virus targeting a certain genetic subset.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, so what's old is new again, a number of things you just mentioned 500 years ago. One of the best selling books of all time by Machiavelli, the prince talks exactly about how to deal with what we've really failed in. What my military career spun out because I no longer believed in counterinsurgency being a successful thing. But as far as diseases go, interesting book out. It's been out a long time. Guns, Germs and Steel by Diamond. The Europeans that came over to the New World eradicated the native populations because they couldn't deal with with the germs, they could deal with the diseases.

[Tim Pool]

But it was an accident. They didn't come here being like, we will bring our diseases to kill them all. They came here and like, they're all dying. And the smallpox thing was intentional, but I mean, before that.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The other thing too, that most people don't realize is my understanding is that actually before the Europeans even arrived, there was a pandemic, an epidemic that had hit Native American tribes across the north and Central America already.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So they already had their population reduced

[Ian Crossland]

well before they could have got hit by the Black Plague and just no written history.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the thing is, because the theory between why the Native Americans were less developed and more susceptible to diseases was landmass and a population density. So in Europe, you have thousands of years of history and all of these people crammed into a tight peninsula where you can't go anywhere. Some people escape to the other islands, they move about, but eventually you're looking at coast, you've got only a certain amount of arable land. And then someone else says, I want that land and I want fishing for my family, not you. So they fight. Fighting results in competition, which results in advancement of technologies, social development. The Native Americans, they'd be sitting there nomadic, fruits and veggies, whatever they needed hunting. Another tribe would come up and they'd be like, oh, don't look at us. They would just break apart. They'd leave. Now, they certainly did have warfare. They brutalized each other. Certain tribes would go and steal. However, if you were one of the more peaceful tribes and you were chilling, smoking a peace pipe, and then a scout came by and he ran up and he was like, hey, look, you know the Apache are coming, you just leave. There's no reason for competition. So interestingly, this is reflected in evolution across the board. The funny thing about these theories is that these blank Slater lefties are like, that's not true, winter. And competition had nothing to do with why people are smarter or stupider, when in reality we Know for a fact. Why are birds not aggressive?

[Phil Carter]

Because they just leave.

[Tim Pool]

They can just leave. Why are badgers aggressive?

[Phil Carter]

Because they can't go anywhere.

[Tim Pool]

They can't go anywhere. So burrowing animals tend to be more vicious. And birds, for instance, because they can move in three dimensions, have no reason to be aggressive. It is more successful to not fight for the badger. Someone tries going in that burrow, they have one choice. Fight or die.

[Phil Carter]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So for Japan, for instance, why were they so brutal? They're on a tight island, so they're just fighting each other until eventually you get one. You know, one regime, I suppose it takes over, and then they start looking outward. This is the militant dominant faction. They won, and now they want more. So they turn to the Koreas or China or otherwise. And the Native Americans were chilling, smoking a beast pipe. Unless you were Aztec and you were flaying people alive and ripping their hearts

[Ian Crossland]

out of the Comanche. I hear they were like the Mongols.

[Seth Keshel]

Oh, brutal, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

Brutal horseback.

[Tim Pool]

They would dip arrows in dung, like, or their own crap so that you were dead if you got hit with it.

[Ian Crossland]

The Comanche were, like, useless. You know, before horses arrived, they were useless. Like, they were thought of as scum, garbage, mountain dweller, hill dweller.

[Tim Pool]

The Europeans brought horses, and then they

[Ian Crossland]

were like, their Mongol ancestry kicked in, and they were like, we're taking it, dude.

[Phil Carter]

I love Comanches.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what people say.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the Asians crossed the Bering Strait in North America. That's where, you know, so there's a shared ancestry there. And, yeah, Europeans bought all the horses and guns. And then all of a sudden, the Native Americans are like, let's roll, baby. I love the fight.

[Seth Keshel]

Or flight has been the same, even with naval warfare as well. Prior to the advent of wireless communications, almost all naval battles were fought within a few miles of the shore. That's the only place ships have run into each other. But now that you could ping an enemy's location with wireless, then you had open battles in the ocean.

[Tim Pool]

Not only that, but for the colonial era, with the trade routes, the trade routes were known routes that were mapped, typically. And if you were seeing pirates off in the distance, you could just leave.

[Seth Keshel]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

Now they'll hunt you down on speedboats. And then you've, like, you see those videos where the gigantic cargo vessel sprays the water off all the edges. There was that one viral video where the dudes are just unloading on the Somalis.

[Phil Carter]

I. I can't help but feel like the gun is better than the water cannon.

[Tim Pool]

They're both for two different things. So, you know, the water cannon prevents them from boarding the guns, stop them from shooting at you.

[Seth Keshel]

You know how we have those helicopter excursions in Texas where you can go shoot hogs that are running gas. How much do you think these cargo ship companies could make to let somebody fly into. They do Djibouti and shoot at the.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm pretty sure that's a thing.

[Seth Keshel]

So when are we going.

[Tim Pool]

I was, I think I saw a video about this where they said that they actually allow people to pay to come on the boats with guns to fight pirates. Not even a joke.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I've heard that too.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, wow. There are a lot of guys are going to be like. Because it's. Here's the thing, if you've got a trained security force and you're on a highly defensible ship and you actually encounter a small group of pirates, you're usually not at risk, like you are going to wipe them out. And so it's kind of brutal. But I've heard stories that they're like, I mean, I'm on board and you can pay us and you can do battle.

[Phil Carter]

Generally when those, those big ships are actually taken, like, it's big news, right? Like, I don't think they get taken. Yeah, that's, that's the point. Like, it's very, it's generally safe. What blows my mind is that they would continue to attack those ships even though they almost. Obviously, the reward has got to be through the roof.

[Tim Pool]

I got to be honest, if I wasn't doing this job, I would be applying for a job at Anduril doing Andrew, making weapons, strapping bombs to drones and blowing things up.

[Ian Crossland]

Talking about joining military intelligence last night. Because the stuff we talk about, we're at the level where if you're going to go to the next level, I don't want to say it online because I don't want the Chinese spies to hear it. I'd rather actually legitimately build.

[Tim Pool]

Sure. I'm just saying that during Occupy when I was starting all of this media stuff, I was also. Me and my buddies were hacking drones and making them do like surveillance stuff. We actually had this little ground drone. It's a remote control, little car. It was a ball with big wheels and you could throw it on the ground and roll it and it would always land upright. Had a camera and you could control with your phone so we could hack the feed from it to the Internet so that I could drive this little ball past a police line and film what's going on? And we had that. We also had these drones. We actually built a rig where I hooked the drone to my backpack at a computer running in my backpack. And then I could take the drone off my back just by lifting it up off a hook, putting it down, and launching it. And the video feed went into the computer, into a hotspot, and broadcast the drone footage to the Internet. So we used to do all kinds of crazy hacks. So, you know, I'm thinking about what's going on with these ships, and I'm thinking about how sad it is that the most effective thing is just to shoot the pirate. And I'm like, there's so many fun weapons you can do that would disrupt piracy in a way they'd never come back for.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, like, fly down, strip their pants off, push them down on the ground.

[Tim Pool]

What.

[Ian Crossland]

What else were you thinking about doing to the pirate?

[Tim Pool]

Like acid burst drones.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that'd be cool, too. Oh, yeah. Flames just set the boat on fire.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know that we want to torture the people alive, but. But the honest thing is, like, in terms of effectiveness, the most effective thing is just to shoot a bad guy who's trying to kill you.

[Phil Carter]

I imagine in the future there will be, especially after the Ukraine war, all the things that have been learned. I imagine it does make sense for a ship to have drones with some kind of ordinance on it and fly the.

[Tim Pool]

So, like, dummy, here's. Here's. Here's. Here's something that I think is interesting. Perhaps when you have an ant problem, how do you solve the ant problem? Well, sure, if you can find it, but how do you do that?

[Ian Crossland]

Poison it.

[Tim Pool]

How do you get to the queen

[Ian Crossland]

underground, Trick the ants into taking the poison back to the queen?

[Tim Pool]

That is correct. And you use. What is it, Borax?

[Carter Banks]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And then what happens is they carry it on themselves back into the colony, where it starts to eat at their exoskeleton, and they all start dying of dehydration.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it gets into their joints, I believe.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Carter]

There's a. I forget what it is. There's some kind of sand. It's very, very fine. That gets into the. The joints in the carapace. It actually cuts. Cuts them, and basically they dry out.

[Ian Crossland]

Is that diatomaceous earth?

[Phil Carter]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Ian Crossland]

Slaughters a rack, or what do they call them?

[Tim Pool]

So the idea is, I actually, you know, again, more to the point, going back to, like, the generations of warfare, it's very rudimentary to be like, we are going to Attack this person, a group of people. I think beyond that, biological warfare like this, sending a person back into their country. So a lot of people think Covid, for instance, was this because it Targeted Asians, the ACE2 receptors in their lungs, which meant Asians were more heavily impacted by the virus. And there are conspiracy theories that the virus wiped out hundreds of millions of Chinese. The, the crematoriums were running like this is a crazy theory. But seriously, we should, I should pull something else on it right now so we can talk about it. But I'll just say this. We know that during COVID crematoriums in China were running 24,7 non stop. And I did, I did do a video on this a couple months ago. There's a Chinese influencer who was like, where are all the people? And he goes to like city center in the marketplaces and he was like, here's a video from 2018 of the market. And it's crazy. And it's like, here's a video now. And it's just dead empty. And he's like, where did the people go?

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think as you're talking about like chemical warfare and like bringing the poison back to the queen to destroy the nest, that we can do the same thing with psychological warfare, that you can poison the minds of the ants,

[Tim Pool]

that's what they're doing.

[Ian Crossland]

And then have them bring that idea back? Because that's kind of what communistation is doing.

[Tim Pool]

You don't need to bring the information back, you just pay for it to appear on the Internet.

[Ian Crossland]

Now it's like the Internet, the queen's watching the tv. On the Internet, there's no queen. That's also true.

[Tim Pool]

See with ants, there's one making all of the babies.

[Ian Crossland]

There's like an oligarchy with the, with the humans, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, and all that.

[Phil Carter]

You could make the argument that the, the efforts to take Iran off the map as a global funder of terrorism would be something akin to that. But it's not one for one kind of.

[Tim Pool]

Let's, let's jump to the story from ABC News. Multiple waves of unauthorized drones recently spotted over strategic US Air Force base. Now here's what's interesting. Adam Cochran says sophisticated drones attack the US base where we store the nuclear bombers. The drones had non commercial signals, were resistant to jamming, came in waves of 12 to 15, swept over sensitive areas of the base, had long range control links, were more advanced than anything seen, unlike seen in Ukraine beyond Iranian capabilities. Some people, it was reported apparently that was weapons testing it's the second base incursion of a sensitive site in the US in the last two weeks. Now actually, I think. Let me. Let me pull this image up that, that you have, Seth, if I can. Actually, it's giving me the business where. Here we go.

[Phil Carter]

The US should be.

[Tim Pool]

You made a map of. Let me pull this in.

[Phil Carter]

The US should be investing heavily in.

[Tim Pool]

This is the path of the. Of the Chinese weather balloon or whatever it was. Spy balloon.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah. This was February of 23. Everybody was up in arms about the. I think there were multiple spy balloons, but this was the first one that crashed over in the Atlantic Ocean off of South Carolina. So I wrote a substack piece about this over on Captain K dot US and this was viewed from a more of a geopolitical military intelligence perspective. I like to zoom out to see the whole picture. And of course, it was launched in China, made its way up northeast, came across the Bering Strait. Now where it starts in our territory goes over two bases in Alaska. Now Fort Wainwright happens to be a army base where there's a Stryker brigade headquarter. I actually served in that brigade. My last assignment. Then it goes over fort.

[Tim Pool]

Real quick, Fort Wayne Wright. It's in Alaska. Where what is. What is it like Anchorage or.

[Seth Keshel]

It's Fairbanks area?

[Tim Pool]

Fairbanks.

[Seth Keshel]

It's smack.

[Tim Pool]

It was obviously Fairbanks. What am I even talking about?

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah, we had negative 60 sometimes.

[Tim Pool]

That sounds fun.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, once it's below negative 10, it's all about the same. You don't go outside. But had a 500 mistake leaving the garage open one day. Froze some pipes. Could have had a worse, you know, jackhammer up everything in the house.

[Tim Pool]

Would you like blow a bubble and it would freeze in midair and fall down.

[Seth Keshel]

You could throw a boiling water pot out and everything would vaporize before it even hit the ground. It was cold.

[Tim Pool]

Anyway. Continue.

[Seth Keshel]

So. So you have Fort Wayne Wright, which is a Striker Brigade headquarters. You have Eon Air Force Base next to it. But then you have Fort Greeley, the army's cold weather training center. And it comes down over through Canada, passes through Fairchild Air Force Base in Washington. So Fairchild Air Force Base is an airy feeling hub. And then it goes through the Rocky Mountain states. Malmstrom Air Force Base, of course, is a. Is a big missile site. You have Mountain Home, Idaho, which is a 366 fighter wing. Grand Forks Air Force Base, North Dakota. Off to the north, this is Air Mobility Minot Air Force Base. Nukes. You have Warren Air Force base in Wyoming. Minuteman 3 ICBM base, Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota. So long story short, the spy balloon tracked its way across are key air

[Tim Pool]

installations and Biden let him do it.

[Seth Keshel]

Apparently. You know, that's the big, that's the shock really, when we talk about, you know, I don't want to steal your thunder, but the drone story, not able to detect this sort of incursion or deal with it is the big problem here.

[Tim Pool]

Unless again, the conspiracy theory being that these, these meteors people are seeing are actually just interceptions. Again, not necessarily missiles, like the, the dark conspiracies that we're being shot at. I don't think that's true. I think they can't hide that. So people are like, these look like missile interceptions. Like when you watch Iran and Afghan. I'm sorry, Iran and Israel, you'll see these videos of the rocket flying and then it breaks up and then people are like, oh, what if these are not meteors there? That could be some kind of interception. Like when Owen Schroyer said he saw the drone burst into flames and fall. Could just be an interception. What if, as Ian was pointing out, US drones intercepted an unknown drone and took it out of the sky? That's what Owen Schroyer saw.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And they don't want to alert the public.

[Tim Pool]

Remember when they're talking about the drones flying all over Jersey and people were reporting seeing car sized drones taking off and flying around and they just said, no, everyone's mistaken. I mean, maybe, but I mean, come on.

[Ian Crossland]

Question about this hot air balloon, the spy balloon, what did it, what did it observe through Canada? Did you get a read on that? Military, Canadian military.

[Tim Pool]

It was a strategic Moose reserve.

[Seth Keshel]

If we look at it through a perspective of it must be a spy mission for the United States, it would just simply be a transit because you don't want to miss numbers. Number one, having, having it available to go over mostly land would require it coming across the Bering Strait rather than get swept away by ocean winds, but then going across through Canada, through our strategic sites. That balloon was equipped with all sorts of optical capabilities. It seemed very primitive, but it was actually very sophisticated. And just, it's just so happened to cut through our really important missile bases in the middle of the country. So they're, they're collecting intelligence.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah.

[Seth Keshel]

This is the thing about warfare is it's a game of skating where the puck is going to be. You need to know what your enemy's gonna be doing in the future rather than right now.

[Tim Pool]

There's a show called Dr. Stone. You ever hear of it? Doctor who? Dr. Stone?

[Ian Crossland]

No.

[Tim Pool]

It is anime Magic School Bus for boys. So Magic School Bus is very female oriented in my opinion. Right everybody, let's have fun. Wee adventure. Dr. Stone is action combat, Magic School Bus. So basically the story is at some point everyone on the earth has turned to stone for some reason. Three thousand years later, this super genius Japanese kid wakes up, breaks from his prison, has to rebuild society from the ground up. And one of my favorite parts of the show is they get into a tribal conflict with a group of people that don't want technology back because it destroyed the earth. And he of course is a scientist who wants to reignite the earth. And so he says we are going to create the most powerful weapon known to man. Which is. Any guesses?

[Ian Crossland]

The pencil. I'm just kind of kidding.

[Tim Pool]

No, the television. The most powerful weapon.

[Phil Carter]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Communications.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that's.

[Tim Pool]

And I knew I was watching the show and the moment he says it, I was like, it's going to be radio. And it was radio.

[Ian Crossland]

Radio's radio.

[Tim Pool]

The ability to communicate on the battlefield can win you a war without a gun. If you've got a bunch of guys with guns and they're pointed straight ahead thinking you're coming and then you tell your guys via long distance and hey, they're walking towards you. Pincer attack. And they break apart and go around you can with rocks. So the ability to communicate, the ability to transmit information over long distances is the, is, it's, it's more powerful than anything. That's why even right now in modern warfare, they're saying the fifth generation is, is information manipulating the minds of individuals. The communication is more powerful than the nuclear bomb. You know what, these pen is mightier

[Ian Crossland]

than the sword by sand.

[Tim Pool]

Dr. That's right.

[Ian Crossland]

The Iranians shutting down the Internet. The people that are shutting down the Internet, I feel like, are fighting a losing battle because it is once they, the citizens get access to the data, it's like these regimes are done.

[Phil Carter]

I don't know if that's actually. Well, I mean I suppose if you're saying that once they actually get access. Yeah, but you know, North Korea has a pretty good hold on information that goes in and out.

[Tim Pool]

I genuinely believe there is a scenario where the US in an escalating conflict with China brings in anthropic and says they're already doing this, using AI to target and locate individuals. They say, let's say China escalates the conflict and we start getting war. Which genuinely puts the US at risk of like, hey, man, this is. We're putting on World War iii. Hegseth then says, why can't we react fast enough? How. How are they flanking us in. In the Pacific theater? And then someone says they are using advanced AI to predict our movements based on fueling patterns, based on resource distribution. They know that when we brought in a major shipment of aluminum from Canada that they could see on satellite, the AI is predicting what we're going to build and where we're going to put it. And so then he says, how do we preempt that? And they say, well, we are using AI systems all the same, but we're behind. And then he says, if our AI isn't fast enough, then we lose. And they say, well, actually, the issue isn't the AI isn't fast enough. It's that we are monitoring the AI. We could go faster if we turn over defense to the AI, instead of it recommending where we fire, we let it fire of its own accord. It will be advanced by 15 minutes. We will absolutely. And then they say, do it. And then they turn over weapons control to the AI. And then we get. I wouldn't call it a Terminator scenario, but we get a very, very terrifying reality where weapons are being fired without human approval, missiles are being launched, and then China reacts and says, what's happened? And they say, sir, they have just handed over full control of their missile systems and defense systems to their AI to just fire of its own accord. We will not be able to preempt this with human fail safes. And then Xi Jinping says, do the same. And that's the AI. Mutually assured destruction, where the AIs are just in a battle and we're sitting back and watching it happen.

[Ian Crossland]

When I think when the computers go quantum and they can exist in the maybe state, that's when if they have control of the weapons systems and they don't have to fire, they can think about it. That's when we're in big trouble.

[Tim Pool]

So that's nothing to do with quantum computing.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, when you can exist in the 1 and the 0 state at the same time, you can kind of wonder. You can, you can think that's gonna.

[Tim Pool]

That's gonna break encryptions because it can flood the password instantly, but it's not gonna calculate where to drop a bomb. Yeah.

[Phil Carter]

And if I understand correctly, quantum quantum computing isn' the same kind of computations that, like regular computers are.

[Tim Pool]

Like, quantum computing is not going to be able to take 300 different factors in war and then make A prediction. This is actually. We actually covered this like a year ago. Someone broke down why quantum computing is basically only good for cracking crypto because it won't be able to look at the entire battlefield and then calculate where to fire the missiles. Only standard, you know, macro level is going to be.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe a quantum computer could use a bunch of classical computers, then maybe that's what they'll do.

[Tim Pool]

Quantum computing, by allowing having qubits exist in both the 1 and the 0, allows you to crack passwords instantly. So that's useful as a component of military technology, but you'll need standard computing to actually plan for your bombs and stuff.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, the applications are very different. What they're useful for. Quantum computing is great for certain applications and it does things that a regular computer can't. But there are things that regular computer that regular computers are, can do that quantum computing just couldn't do. It's not, it's not, it's not like a regular computer just like gassed up and super powerful.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's not, it's. It's not calculating patterns and predictions. It's just seeing everything at once.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it's not going to be able to tell you. Like, honestly, it would be like this. The equivalent would be you've got a psychic who can tell you exactly what's going to happen, and you have a guy who can see everywhere. And the guy who can see everywhere says, I see a ship going through the ocean. Where's it going? I don't know. I can just see it. The computer is going to be like, wait, what was that? You said there's a ship on the ocean. Okay, let me calculate everything. If there is a ship, and this is the wind, it's going to end up here. So the quantum is basically just going to be like a spy satellite, essentially being able to crack passwords, see what is actively going on, but not compute probabilities or make predictions.

[Ian Crossland]

Terrifying. That it could decide anything is terrifying.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, so these systems are useful for narrowing down the battlefield. But there are a number of things that no advanced technology can change about warfare. You still have to feed armies, you still have to fuel ships and planes.

[Tim Pool]

And logistics are useful when they're optimist robots.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, back in my day, seems like so so recently, but it was 13 years ago now. Brigade Combat teams were able to deploy anywhere in the world within 96 hours. So the first brigade of the 25th Stryker Brigade Combat Team up in Fort Wainwright, Alaska. We had the port of Anchorage to our south about six hours and supposedly get everything on a boat and send the troops in within 96 hours. So people with, with these systems can figure out where our refuel points are, where are where the places that ships may be sailing, where planes are going to fly. Even people with primitive ability to project power, like Taliban, they would look for aircraft flying over the same landmarks. And that was one of the guidance to air crews. Make sure you vary your flight patterns so. So some of the things about military intelligence stay the same through all the ages.

[Tim Pool]

Well, as the saying goes, what is this? A wars are fought on the soldier's belly or something like that. Being able to feed your troops is one of the most important things often overlooked in fiction and in history. Like the invasion of the Confederate forces into the north with the battle of Gettysburg had a lot to do with a couple things. One, they wanted to steal food. That was a big component. But the war reason was to terrify the north to make them feel shock. You came to fight us, we'll come to fight you and make you feel political ramifications. But a big component of it was we're gonna move north and steal all their food because we're hungry. And that's why, like the British would. That's why we have the third Amendment. We're gonna come and send troops. They're gonna stay in your house, they're gonna take your stuff.

[Seth Keshel]

The first day of Gettysburg could have completely changed the war. Lee had a beat, and if he would have seized the high ground at Little Round Top on day one, then he would have commanded the battlefield. It was normally Longstreet, that general and Longstreet wanted the high ground, and Lee was normally the offensive guy.

[Tim Pool]

The other big component there was that, I believe the Union began using breech loading muskets and the Confederates were still using muzzleloaders. So the Union, it would take them about 20 seconds to reload, whereas the Confederates take about a minute and a half.

[Ian Crossland]

Matt, I could see something like that happening in the modern war. Something changes where one side can unload offensive ordinance 15 times faster than the other side.

[Tim Pool]

All of a sudden, the repeater changed everything. I love repeaters, dude. They're one of my, I think like lever action repeaters are my favorite guns.

[Ian Crossland]

Like what would be cowboy guns where

[Tim Pool]

you can, you know, can you spin it around?

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Don't actually spin around.

[Phil Carter]

Would it be like laser.

[Ian Crossland]

Probably laser weaponry.

[Tim Pool]

Lasers? Absolutely not.

[Ian Crossland]

You don't think laser weaponry is gonna.

[Tim Pool]

We talked about this yesterday.

[Ian Crossland]

Super fast attack weapon that no will be evolved to.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, look 5, 5, 6 is going to fly at what, like 3, 500ft per second?

[Phil Carter]

3,000 out of a 20 inch barrel. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So, so here's the issue. The amount of energy required for laser weapon to be effective is, is orders of magnitude, like a hundred. They used to orders of magnitude greater than the amount of energy it does

[Ian Crossland]

require a lot of. But they would say like the Nazis can't attack France, it's impossible. No one. And then all of a sudden the panzer tank, the, the Tiger tank, the tank that just tore through the mountains in the woods that no one knew existed.

[Tim Pool]

Right. So the Maginot Line was quickly circumvented because they didn't know they could do it. But it really was just a failure of the Maginot Line. I mean had they actually fortified further down, they may have been more effective, but they didn't. And then the Germans were able to go around it and then they were like, ah, we surrender. Don't take our cheese.

[Seth Keshel]

There's definitely weapons.

[Tim Pool]

They took their cheese.

[Ian Crossland]

What weapons?

[Seth Keshel]

There's almost definitely discombobulators, technologies being used today in Iran that nobody's ever conceived of. We haven't been in a conventional battle force on force in a long time.

[Tim Pool]

This is what I'm talking about. That's what I was saying. If I wasn't doing here, I'd be applying to Anzer. I'll be like, bro, I will make some messed up things. Like they, they. Have you ever seen the ion guns? They're toys basically. And you can buy them where it's like, it's like a spiraling piece of metal and point the trigger connects a charge and you can point it at like the UFO and it'll make it spin by blasting just like ions or something. And so they have these toys where it's a vacuum sealed glass container with there's like little, little reflective panels on it resting on just like a stick. And when you point the ion gun to pull the trigger, it starts spinning because you're like hitting it with electromagnetic frequency or something. They're, they're like. Me and my friends explored all this stuff quite a bit. We made funny silly things. We never had crazy weapons. Here's a funny story. I had a really great idea. It's still a really great idea. Taser glove. But hold on, let me finish. I don't want to hurt anybody. I want to disable somebody. So when I was a teenager, everybody was selling those ab workout shockers. You ever see those?

[Ian Crossland]

I love them.

[Tim Pool]

You put on the belt and it Electrocutes your abs into working out. And they said, now you don't got to think about it. You're exercising while you're sitting at work. Which is really dumb, but people did anyway. And so when I was like 20, 22 or 23, I told my friend, let's. So the way it works is I think it's. What is it like low amperage, high voltage or something like this? I forgot the. The mix. So it's painless, but it causes a muscle contraction. And I said, okay, why don't we put that in a glove so that if you grab someone's arm, the same effect will lock their muscles. They'll feel no pain, but they can't move. This would allow you in combat to disable somebody without causing extreme pain and they can't fight back. So we actually started working on prototyping this out and this guy that I worked with was like a big action sports guy. He's like, bro, I'll hit up insert famous snowboarding equipment company and we'll get gloves to sponsor it and then we'll like film it. And he hit him up and they're like, this is the coolest thing ever. And then they agreed to send us some free gloves. And then they did. And then immediately emailed and said my boss freaked out and said, what is wrong with you? We don't make weapons. Please don't do this. So the idea was make weapons. In the thumb and middle finger. You will have electrodes that when you make contact with the skin, it would have a taser like effect without pain. So it would just cause muscle contraction.

[Ian Crossland]

So it's like rapid, high voltage, like really, really fast.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no. It's a constant. It's a constant current. So the way those belts worked is that it would do current stop, current stop, and it would cause your muscles to lock up.

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[Tim Pool]

And people would put them on their faces and go. And they'd put it on their arms and go, whoa. And then I was like, why don't we utilize that? Right?

[Seth Keshel]

Some magneto and Professor X stuff right there.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm talking about. And then I said, bro, it gets better. Check it out. You can then have. I was like, we can take a basic taser and we can attach the components of the taser to the back of the glove right here and then have the electrodes on the finger for a full taser and you can stick people. I was like, or we can do the. The contraction type. And then I said, it gets better. With the full Taser, you could actually take a sword and put contacts on the sword so when you're holding it, it makes the current run up to the sword. So you actually can electrocute people with the sword or slash them. So let's say they try to deflect the sword, you can touch the sword to them, completing the circuit and tasing them. Yeah. And everyone thought it was a bad idea.

[Phil Carter]

Zapped and cut at the time, you

[Ian Crossland]

run it up to, like, an electrified elbow pad that goes to a backpack with the generator on it. I mean, I think you're. This is lightsaber thing.

[Tim Pool]

The thing is, you have to have contact points and a current. That means that in order to make a taser effect, like, there has to be a, you know, a circuit. So it's not just going to be on your elbow and your hand. They're going to be conflicting circuits.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah. I have these Pavlok shock clock bracelets that help me wake up in the morning, and they tase me.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, it's called the Pavlok.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that was on. That was on Shark Tank, and they laughed at the guy, so it was the dumbest thing ever.

[Carter Banks]

I've been using them for eight years.

[Tim Pool]

Why do you. Miserable.

[Carter Banks]

Oh, it does. It sucks. But I just. I'm a heavy sleeper.

[Phil Carter]

You have a child. Why do you need that?

[Carter Banks]

Because the child keeps me up so long.

[Seth Keshel]

Okay.

[Carter Banks]

I then fall into a deep sleep.

[Tim Pool]

Just get a sun lamp. They have sun lamps that. The way it works is you set the time, you want to wake up, and then within 10 minutes, it slowly starts lighting up. And then it starts playing sounds so, you know, I can't stand alarms. You like that stuff. You're sleeping, you're in a peaceful dream. I'm riding on the back of a Pegasus and Ian is behind me, and we're giggling and laughing together. And then all of a sudden, and I'm like, my heart's going crazy. I'm like, ian. And then I'm like, my head hurts. And I'm like. So I like the very light, chill kind of stuff. At Charles de Gaulle Airport, they do this. Have you ever been to Charles de Gaulle Airport in France?

[Ian Crossland]

No. I think I have been through it.

[Tim Pool]

Once you're in the airport in like the United States and you'll hear a, attention customers. And you're like, oh, geez. At Charles de Gaulle, it'll go real slow so that no one's shocked. And then it's like, it plays this like ambient, very polite, airy noise. Very polite. And it's like, bonjour. I don't speak French.

[Phil Carter]

I kind of feel like that would be something that they do in like, Japan or something. Very polite.

[Tim Pool]

No way. Japan? Yeah.

[Phil Carter]

They're polite there.

[Ian Crossland]

They bang a gong. I'm just kidding.

[Tim Pool]

That's China problem. I feel like Germany, they would just scream. And you're like, exactly. You're like, okay, I'm sorry. Let's talk about war more. We got the story from the FBI. I'm sorry, we have. The story from the DOJ has confirmed. The FBI has confirmed Cash Patel's email has been hacked by Iran. And then Daily Mail puts embarrassing private photos and emails leaked online. I'm sorry, there's literally nothing embarrassing about it. I mean, it's kind of embarrassing they hacked your email through like a phishing scheme or whatever they did. But like, here's a. Here's a shocking photo of Cash smiling with his girlfriend, having fun.

[Phil Carter]

Password, Password.

[Tim Pool]

Here's. Look at these photos. It's like, here's Cash enjoying a beautiful spring day and having a cigar. Here's Cash enjoying summer's weather with a vehicle. I don't understand how any of this is like, haha, we got you. It's like, oh, okay. Well, I mean, it is, it is. It does suck that they got your emails. And it's like, did you guys know that Cash's favorite food is like, you know, curry or something? It's like, well, he's Indian, I guess. I don't know. I don't actually know that. It's true. I love curry, by the way. But I'm saying, like, the most embarrassing thing is going to be that, you know, he. He orders his steak well done with ketchup. I guess there's like nothing in here.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's. It's like, oh, hey, we found out he's kind of a normal guy. The thing is, this is sort of a site of what's to come, I think, especially if AI does autonomy and they call it the apocalypse. The APO meaning the removal of the calypse, which is the veil. Removing the veil, where it just.

[Tim Pool]

That's correct. It means like revelation.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, It's a Greek term. And just like everyone's email, I think will be public at some point. All of your.

[Tim Pool]

That was.

[Ian Crossland]

Will go public post.

[Tim Pool]

So that's what happened happened after the fall of Soviet Union, all of that information that was stolen started to leak

[Ian Crossland]

out and it leveled the playing field. People just, Everybody just shut up, except for the oligarchs that probably didn't get their leaked so.

[Tim Pool]

Because apparently after the fall Soviet Union, people were basically like looking at each other and being like, I know what that guy's into, but he knows what I'm into, so I'm gonna say nothing.

[Seth Keshel]

Ultimately, the. The capacity for. For information gathering has surpassed the human brain's ability to comprehend it. Oh, yeah. People are so zoned out with the daily news cycle. And I don't mean to bring up a memory we all wish we could forget, but it's six months later and nobody really even talks about Charlie Kirk being shot anymore. Well, that was one of the most.

[Tim Pool]

I just, I completely disagree with.

[Ian Crossland]

You might be right out there, but this we.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, just, just today or just yesterday, Michael Rapaport tweeted out, has Candace come any closer to solving Charlie's murder yet? Because it's the only thing that woman talks about. And as a, like, I gotta be honest, the only thing that is guaranteed to get views on YouTube right now is talking about how Erica Kirk was involved in Charlie's murder.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, you're right. The fallout remains. I'm talking about the actual event itself. It's, it's, it's in the distant memory, even six months later. So this kind of stuff right here, nobody will talk about this on Monday Now. Now they're definitely saying, hey, look at us. Look at our capabilities here.

[Tim Pool]

People. People don't remember, in fact, when Ian was arrested and jailed for mercilessly beating that child.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I try to.

[Tim Pool]

And it's just that too. It's not even the news anymore, you know?

[Ian Crossland]

Well, so people bit by a dog when I was.

[Seth Keshel]

People are just over. People are over all the, all the scandal and all the stuff. So even if there was anything bad in there, Trump took a lot of the personal stuff out of politics, where he took so many arrows over. He did this. He said that he knew this person where now it doesn't really land. They're trying the same thing with Ken Paxton in Texas, and people are ready.

[Tim Pool]

What are they saying? About him. They're saying stuff about Ken Paxton.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, he. He's going through a divorce and you know, there's a lot of conjecture.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. That's right. It's totally forgot about that.

[Seth Keshel]

Right. You know, so he's one of the 50. He's one of the 50% of Americans who are going through or are divorced. Right. So congratulations.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know what to believe. A lot of it's fake. So that's why my mind glazes over.

[Tim Pool]

Who initiated the divorce? It was his wife. Right?

[Ian Crossland]

She did you work too much.

[Tim Pool]

Death before dishonor.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't even want to get him.

[Tim Pool]

Divorce is unacceptable.

[Ian Crossland]

It makes no sense to me.

[Phil Carter]

Divorce.

[Ian Crossland]

But neither does marriage. No, I get.

[Tim Pool]

I think we should get rid of no fault divorce. And courts should require counseling before divorce is allowed. And only. And only divorce should only be allowed if. I'm not even a big fan of infidelity as a cause for divorce. I think there should be a penalty on the other individual. But I would say that abuse should be like. I mean, the only reason to warrant a divorce.

[Ian Crossland]

It was hard to prove. That's part of argument, is like, a woman would be like, he's abusing me, a guy. But no, I'm not.

[Tim Pool]

Lots of things are hard to prove. So what? Lots of things are hard to prove.

[Ian Crossland]

Then the guy would just keep beating the hell out of his wife.

[Tim Pool]

And then eventually they're going to be like, okay, here she is, bloodied up and beaten again. The cops would eventually come in that. Look, if a woman shows up and she's totally fine with no harm to her, and she's like, I was abused, they'll be like, I mean, you can't accuse a guy of a crime without proof. It doesn't matter if it's abuse or otherwise.

[Ian Crossland]

We can record stuff now and then you can fake recordings too.

[Tim Pool]

Agreed. The issue for me is when it comes to the me too stuff, it's always like, this should be the one area of law where I don't need proof. It's like, what? Shut up. No, you need proof. You can't accuse someone of crime without evidence. I mean, like. Well, actually, no, you can. You can get sued for defamation, I guess, but if you want to prove and have penalties under the under law, like, you need evidence of a crime. So divorce.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I mean, is that. Do you guys want to talk about it? I have mixed feelings.

[Tim Pool]

We already are. You think people should be allowed to get divorced?

[Ian Crossland]

No, no. I like no fault divorce. I think People should be able to walk away from a marriage at the top of a hat. No, because I don't owe you anything.

[Tim Pool]

I don't owe that contract. When you enter a document, literally made

[Phil Carter]

a contract, you made an agreement.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe I owe her. I sign a prenup. I don't owe anything to anybody.

[Tim Pool]

The contract, as state, is till death do us part. And you don't get to break that contract.

[Ian Crossland]

That's a. That's a. I'll take that out of the contract.

[Tim Pool]

Then don't get married. See, this is the problem.

[Ian Crossland]

I'll get married money.

[Tim Pool]

You're not. It's a business, dude. Marriage has turned.

[Ian Crossland]

Marriage is. Is. Is. Is like a business contract.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no. You're talking about dating. If you want to date someone, giving

[Ian Crossland]

someone all your money and not having to pay taxes on it.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Ian Crossland]

That's what you can do with your wife.

[Tim Pool]

No, you can't.

[Ian Crossland]

You can put it on bank account and she can spend it.

[Tim Pool]

If you think that. If you think that's wrong, that's not true.

[Phil Carter]

If you think the owner.

[Tim Pool]

It's not correct.

[Phil Carter]

Married is.

[Tim Pool]

I am Marri. And what I'm telling you is that is wrong.

[Ian Crossland]

You say if you put money in your joint bank account, she can't spend it without paying taxes on it.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. Ian, I can't give my mom money.

[Ian Crossland]

Your wife.

[Tim Pool]

I understand what you're saying. I am. I am. I am making a point about misconceptions on how this stuff works.

[Ian Crossland]

So wait. If you put $100,000 in a joint bank account with your wife, saying if she spends that money, she has to pay taxes on that?

[Phil Carter]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

How much?

[Tim Pool]

Depending on her income. It's income.

[Phil Carter]

You pay taxes on it before it gets put into the.

[Tim Pool]

I know. I cannot create a joint account for anyone, be it my wife, brother, mom, child. If I claim, as I'm a dependent, I can. The way taxes work, my wife has to choose whether or not her income and my income is the same thing or not. If it's the same thing, it's all tax, no matter what. If it's not, it's income. She has to pay taxes on it when I give it to her.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I know. I'm talking about money you've already paid taxes on that you put in your joint bank account together that you guys own together. That's your money.

[Tim Pool]

Ian. She will have to pay taxes on it.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

If I get paid from my job, okay. And then I put that money in an account and she uses it, that's income. After the Fact, if I pay taxes on my money and exchange it with literally anyone else who is not a dependent, they have to pay taxes on it, married or otherwise. So you can choose to file jointly, or you could file separately. Separately means her money is her money, my money is my money. And if I give her money, she has to report it as income.

[Ian Crossland]

And if you file jointly.

[Tim Pool]

Jointly, then all the money she gets pays at the same tax rate as myself. Because one lump of money. That means if you are ultra wealthy and you're. You're. This is what people think. This is not how it works. Imagine a guy's a billionaire, and he says, I am going to marry this woman, and she can spend my money as she sees fit, but she ain't gonna pay taxes on it because it's not income. That's. That's just not correct. That's just not how it works. She can join in with you and all the money is taxed the highest tax bracket, or she can say, my money is my money taxed at the lower bracket? And then I give her money, and it's taxed income you don't like. The craziest thing to me is that people think, I guess it's just a lack of experience or understanding people. You can't give family members money. There's. It's taxed. There's. The gift limit from the IRS applies to all people, regardless of their family. The only exception is dependents. You can give dependents money. So went over this. The first thing I did when I made money, I said, I'd like to buy my mom a house. And my accountant says, you cannot do that. And I said, what? Why not? And he goes, it will be income. She must pay taxes on that house. And I said, so what does that result in? And he was like, okay, well, a $300,000 house, for example. You buy that, you gift it to your mom, that's $300,000 in income. She will owe, you know, 23% or whatever. So she's gonna owe $60,000 to the IRS, and if she doesn't pay it, they'll seize the house. And I'm like, what? So what do I do? You can't do anything. Congratulations. Like, this is how. This is how tax law works.

[Ian Crossland]

I just want to clarify this. Joint filing jointly. So if you make a million dollars and pay taxes on it, you walk away with, what, $500,000. You put it in your joint bank account.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

Your wife, then if she spends that money, she has to pay taxes again on it?

[Tim Pool]

Correct.

[Ian Crossland]

And what is that? Another. Another.

[Tim Pool]

Whatever her income is and whatever she bracket she's taxed at, she'd have to pay taxes on it.

[Ian Crossland]

Income. But she's. She doesn't work.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, income is income. Regardless of whether you have a job or not.

[Ian Crossland]

You've already paid taxes on your income that you have in the joint bank account. You're saying yes, now you can spend it and not pay taxes on it.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Ian Crossland]

If she does.

[Tim Pool]

Correct.

[Ian Crossland]

She has to pay taxes on what? If she uses your joint bank account card, That's.

[Tim Pool]

That's. She has to pay tax on the income.

[Ian Crossland]

So if you're the one handing the card over, there's no tax. But if she's the one handing the card over, that. That payment gets taxed. What if she buys a hat on Amazon she has to pay income tax on?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, you are correct. Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

So what do people just. They just use your card for everything?

[Tim Pool]

No, that would be lying to the irs.

[Ian Crossland]

What do people do to. Why would they pay double tax? What the. I'm sorry, Ian's becoming an anarchist. Either I'm misunderstanding it or you are misunderstanding. It's very strange data.

[Tim Pool]

Anytime money is transferred to another person, that person must pay taxes on it. Right. Income does not mean job. It does not mean W2. Income could come from many different sources. It can be W2G, your favorite. That's gambling earnings. You play a game of poker, you lose, you win a hand. That's W2G. It's taxed at 23%, I think. 23. It's 23% capped. Meaning even if you're a billionaire, it's still 23%. Whereas actually, no, no, no. I think it might be general income these days, meaning it'll be taxed at 37.5 or whatever. So again, I have a joint bank account and my wife is choosing to file solely and separately.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no, no. Jointly. That's what I'm talking about. No, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

I. No, no, no.

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[Tim Pool]

Understand? Oh, you're saying if we file taxes jointly, that's one person and that means. So let me explain. If I am married and we both say we are filing as a married couple, if my wife goes and takes a job for $100,000 a year, she will pay 37.5, the highest tax bracket. Understand?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because our income is one income right now. She might say, that sucks. Normally I'd only pay 23%. If we filed separately, you can do that, too. Then she works a job at $100,000 a year, files separately, her income for the year is only $100,000 and she pays 23%. I then can't give her money. I can buy things for myself and my dependents. She can benefit from them. But if I. If she takes money from my account to spend, she has income. That's just it. That's just how it works.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm not talking about filing separately. I never mentioned filing separately, ever. In this combo, you did. I talked about filing jointly.

[Tim Pool]

You did. You said you can get married to someone and transfer your wealth, so you've got to pay taxes on it.

[Ian Crossland]

If you marry someone and you file jointly, why would you ever let your wife go to the store and buy hamburgers if she has to pay income tax on that? Whereas if you go to the store, you don't have to pay income tax on.

[Tim Pool]

That's why people don't file separately. Jointly.

[Ian Crossland]

No, if you're jointly filing. You just told me that if you

[Tim Pool]

file jointly, I just don't think you spend some money.

[Ian Crossland]

You just.

[Tim Pool]

The first thing I said was joint filing makes your income one year.

[Ian Crossland]

Did he tell me that if you file jointly and the woman spends the money, she has to pay double income tax?

[Tim Pool]

You misheard me. That's not what I said.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, we.

[Seth Keshel]

This is why I hire out my taxes.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, and you.

[Ian Crossland]

You might be crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Did you.

[Ian Crossland]

Did I.

[Tim Pool]

Did I Hear what I said? I. I have explicitly said.

[Ian Crossland]

It's recorded, so I'm going To rewatch it.

[Carter Banks]

Also a little bit confused because like,

[Tim Pool]

so you said a joint bank account filing separately.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I never filing separately. When a married couple files jointly and they have a joint bank account, you only have to pay income tax on that when the man brings the money in. And then you can spend, both of you can spend it on whatever you want. That's my understanding, yes. Okay, then why would you say that? No, she has to pay taxes on

[Tim Pool]

it because you made the claim. Sorry. That you can get married and your wife and me.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I did not make, I did not claim your side separately.

[Tim Pool]

You can use marriage as a business transaction to avoid paying taxes.

[Ian Crossland]

It is a bit. The marriage license is a form of a, of a business contract. That's what I said.

[Tim Pool]

It is a contract. I don't call it business contract.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, you can share money and work on things together without having.

[Tim Pool]

Again, this is, this is the point. When you marry someone, you can file jointly, which means your spouse has to pay taxes at the same rate as you because her income and your income is the exact same. Okay, so you're not avoiding taxes. You're not.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, but she didn't have to work.

[Tim Pool]

But that's just you choosing to give someone money. What do you mean?

[Ian Crossland]

Right, but you can't give other people that same amount of money without having to pay gift taxes and things like that. And, but your wife, what was your unlimited amounts of money to essentially, if

[Tim Pool]

you're filing jointly as one person. It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a. Indeed. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Tim Pool]

I don't understand what your point is.

[Ian Crossland]

My point is that it's, that's why I consider it a business contract. Because it's like having a part in business partner.

[Tim Pool]

To go back to the beginning. This is the problem with, with modern society is that marriage is dating now.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, marriage is a business license, dude.

[Tim Pool]

Purpose of marriage is a, it's a death contract. That's why people should not be allowed to break it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, maybe that was the original. Yeah, that was. Of course, the original purpose of it was you own that woman. Basically.

[Phil Carter]

No,

[Carter Banks]

it was.

[Ian Crossland]

No, she had to change her name.

[Phil Carter]

Responsible. She didn't have rights. Remember women couldn't have credit cards until the 70s. They couldn't order that.

[Tim Pool]

That is, I, I, I strongly object to your framing, Phil. She didn't have rights. Of course women had right rights.

[Phil Carter]

Please enlighten me with your thoughts.

[Tim Pool]

What rights did women not have prior to.

[Phil Carter]

There was a point in Time where women were considered. When the way that Ian saying they were considered property because they were not responsible for their own behavior. They couldn't own. They couldn't own property. They couldn't have bank accounts and stuff like that. So the reason that women were considered.

[Tim Pool]

You have a right to a bank account.

[Phil Carter]

You couldn't. Women couldn't know. Women couldn't have credit cards and stuff like that until they couldn't vote either.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but. But the reason women couldn't have.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah. Couldn't vote and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

The reason women couldn't have credit cards was. Was not because it was like, oh, women are second class. It was because they didn't have. They didn't work, they didn't have credit. They. It wasn't like these women shouldn't be allowed to buy things.

[Phil Carter]

It was. I do think that you couldn't have a credit card in your name as

[Tim Pool]

a woman because we went over this already a long time ago. It had to do with property ownership and credit lines as opposed to, you're a woman. And so some women did have credit cards, but companies chose not to issue them because you were considered less likely to have income.

[Phil Carter]

My broader point is women and men that got married, the man was responsible for the woman. Right. So that was one of the things that the suffragettes, one of the arguments against women's suffrage, women that did not want the right to vote said, well, then we're going to have all the responsibilities that men have right now. We don't have the same responsibilities that men have. If we get the right to vote, they're going to eventually have the all, et cetera, et cetera. And even to things that we talk about here, Tim talks about, you know, women should be up for the draft because they need. They have full enfranchisement. The reason that women were considered second class or didn't have quote, unquote rights is because they didn't have the corresponding responsibilities.

[Tim Pool]

Long story short, if you publicly state, till death do us part, that's it. No divorce ever.

[Phil Carter]

I mean, I think there should be extenuating circumstances, like if you're. If you've got a violent husband or something like that, fine. But otherwise you can prove it. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And otherwise educated.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah. Like, you make it. You make a commitment, you make a promise.

[Tim Pool]

The.

[Phil Carter]

The whole point of it is I'm committing my life to you. We're in this through thick and thin. The idea that, well, I just don't feel like it. That's not good enough.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Life. I think society would be so much better if people were forced to adhere to their, their word meaning, like if you made a vow, that vow is law. So contract law, obviously then we dispute. No, I didn't agree to that. And then it's adjudicated. Can you prove that this is, you know, who has right is who is wrong. And that means sometimes bad people will figure ways to weasel out of their bond and their word. But marriage is pretty simple. You sign that, you sign that marriage license and you say that till death do us part. It's like, well, okay. And there's, there's, there's, that's it. And the, the exception of course is a criminal action. Yeah, criminal activity.

[Phil Carter]

Infidelity, violence.

[Tim Pool]

I don't agree with infidelity either. No, no. I think there should be penalties for infidelity. Certain penalties. We have to navigate how that is. But someone who is, you know, engaged in infidelity, I suppose, you know, maybe we put it like the aggrieved partner has the right to dissolve the marriage if they so choose.

[Carter Banks]

That's what I was thinking.

[Tim Pool]

And the individual, the perpetrator, the guilty is no longer allowed to ever enter into a marriage contract.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Phil Carter]

If you can't be trusted.

[Ian Crossland]

That's too much government for me. That's too much over oversight.

[Phil Carter]

I kind of want to just optional, I mean.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean it's optional? I've got to get married.

[Phil Carter]

I used to believe that, that I used to believe in like too much government for, you know, government should be out of everything. But I have, I have so little faith in people nowadays. I really think that people need. Need guide rails on life.

[Seth Keshel]

Government has only recently been involved in marriage. Yeah, wasn' thing when it first started.

[Phil Carter]

I know that that perspective is fairly unpopular, but like people, people need some kind of guide rails and with the, with religion not giving them the guide rails that they, they used to have, like, I think that there still needs to be something that keeps people kind on the straight and narrow. At the very least incentivizes them to keep on the straight and narrow. Even if it isn't, you know, you're going to go to get thrown in jail for it.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go nuts. We got this story from tmz. Look. Smacksing clavicular shoots up dead gator. Oh boy. So at first I was saying like I think maybe it's fake, but you can clearly see when they're pulling the trigger. The. These are live rounds. They also. I don't know if they have the video here. I think we have it pulled Up.

[Phil Carter]

You zoom into that.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, that's black eyes are closed

[Phil Carter]

when that gun's going off.

[Carter Banks]

Oh, that's play button there.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's like, ah, what do we got here? Let's play this. So this is a crime. Even if the gator is dead, this is illegal. They also. So they unload.

[Phil Carter]

He's keeping his eyes closed too.

[Carter Banks]

Wow, that's terrible.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah.

[Phil Carter]

Oh, you know, he might have one eye closed. He might be doing the whole.

[Carter Banks]

Well, you're not supposed to do that.

[Phil Carter]

So you're not necessarily. That's, that's wrong.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the thing. Was it dead first? How could they. I don't know if it was always dead. Yeah, I think that gator is.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, so here's a dead gator just floating along a river. No, usually alive.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they are usually alive.

[Ian Crossland]

And he was like. And the guy's like, yeah, that gator is what?

[Tim Pool]

Dead?

[Ian Crossland]

Like, cuz he shot it once and killed.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the other thing. There's. There's video of him. They're in the Everglades and they're shooting into open fields. He's got a rifle. That's illegal. It's also psychotic shooting with no backstop. They don't know what they're shooting at. Someone says on camera, there's maybe people down there. They could be lying for attention. Doesn't matter because the Everglades have people and animals and shooting randomly with no backstop. Criminal. They also open fire on a drone which appears to be theirs. Also super illegal, bro. This dude committed like seven felonies on stream. It's wild. Uh, I'm sorry, Gen Z is losing their minds. This dude is getting attention because this is what gets attention. Obviously we're giving it attention. He was arrested for assault. He's being investigated for shooting the dead gator. Stressing. Shooting a dead gator is still illegal. And people are gonna be like, well, that's dumb. The gators, that doesn't matter because the issue is the reason why they have wildlife protections is to balance the ecosystem. The reason why this is bad is that normally animals would come and eat the. Eat the gator carcass. Now they're full. It's full of lead, which is going to result in other animals dying. You cannot do this stuff. It's illegal. Firing up into the air anywhere is insane. And shooting at any drone, whether you own it or not is illegal. It's a FAA violation and a felony. You cannot shoot drones even if you own it.

[Carter Banks]

If you missed, you're still firing up into the air.

[Tim Pool]

One of the reasons why you can't do it. And I think this dude should be in prison for a long time. He's a meth addict, self described meth addict who sterilized himself, has hopped up on a whole bunch of goofballs and now is on camera shooting illegally into these animals. Doesn't matter now. Maybe they faked the whole thing and it's a fake gator. They put it there and propped up. I really doubt it because most people don't know and they probably assume it's not illegal to shoot a. A carcass. They're in the Everglades. You can't do this even on private property. And the response for people are like, they're in the middle of nowhere.

[Phil Carter]

Who cares?

[Tim Pool]

Like, let them do it, bruh. I'm not playing these games, dude. This is going to get guns banned. Right? This is the kind of. This kind of stuff where Democrats will come out and see and say, this is a legal gun owner and they're not killing people. But this is the kind of reckless psychotic behavior. Who is it? Who is. Chuck was driving down the street. Remember the bullet hit his car.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, yeah, Charles.

[Tim Pool]

Someone was shooting and he was driving and a bullet hit his car. And that's the kind of stuff that gets guns banned.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah. I think that, that we need to look at the generations. I was 23 when I got my first smartphone, so I at least got to grow up through high school and most of college without one. So there was a period of time when the Internet came out where we had some connectivity to each other, but not completely always connected, where everybody was recording something all the time. So this generation clearly is needing constant stimulation, constant stuff to look at and click. And they can't repeat the same stuff. So it's going to get more and more extreme. And if somebody ever comes by me and my wife and sprays us with a Super Soaker like we saw yesterday, they better be able to run.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that happened.

[Seth Keshel]

There was a big video yesterday where somebody was going down the street spraying everybody with a Super Soaker.

[Tim Pool]

You're dead. Yeah. If I'm walking with my wife and child and you pull up anything and point it at me, everything's good on our end. And I want to be very careful. Here I am talking about in defense of my baby daughter. I am not going to wait to figure out if you're playing a prank or not or intending to spray me with acid. And I want to stress this. I want to stress this. I'm going to be very, very careful. I know it's a very. Maybe we'll bleep that. Kellen.

[Carter Banks]

All right, time down.

[Tim Pool]

It's good. He's recording Shit. But I know pre recording is great. I want to stress this. I will defend myself with whatever force available to me. Available. Which is available to me. If you aim anything at my wife and child, I am not going to be like, well, now, hold on. My one year old baby daughter. Maybe it's just water.

[Ian Crossland]

Hell no.

[Tim Pool]

We get. We get threats of acid attacks. We see acid attacks. I ain't sticking around and wait to figure out what you're trying to do. There's a video of a black dude walking up to a guy's car with a. With a canister of gas, but it's water. And starts splashing on the vehicle. And the guy draws his gun and then the guy's like, no, no, it's water. Stop, stop, stop. And he goes, you almost died, you dumb mother effer. Yeah, not playing around. You. You come up to my car with a canister of gasoline and start splashing it. I'm not waiting for you to light it up.

[Ian Crossland]

Up.

[Tim Pool]

It's not happening.

[Phil Carter]

I'll be calling the insurance company to fix the glass before.

[Seth Keshel]

Mike Tyson is one of the smartest people to ever exist in the modern age. He said that thanks to the Internet, that nobody's really afraid of getting hit in the face anymore.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Seth Keshel]

And then once people do stuff like that, they don't realize that there's real people with.

[Tim Pool]

What's really crazy about these videos is how many time, how many times they're. They're flagging each other basically. Like, I'm surprised these retards didn't die. Like dudes waving his gun around like a. They. They have no, no discipline. Clearly they're shooting into open fields. I'm like, yeah, that's how someone gets shot in the face.

[Phil Carter]

I mean, it's unlikely that. That that would happen because they're in the Everglades. But to your point earlier, like, no,

[Tim Pool]

no, no, no, no. These undisciplined guys waving guns around.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Carter Banks]

The penalties are the same if they hit somebody.

[Seth Keshel]

That's on Everglade. That's probably a national spring is calling

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[Ian Crossland]

Park.

[Seth Keshel]

Which makes me wonder how they got the clearance to even shoot that. Because I went on a tour there. It's just Park.

[Tim Pool]

I don't have any.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, you can carry guns.

[Tim Pool]

We're under investigation right now, but the,

[Phil Carter]

the idea that you can just go, go and start shooting an animal because

[Carter Banks]

you know they likely won't be allowed to own guns in the future after the.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, I mean, he's already in jail.

[Phil Carter]

He. He admits to using meth. He shouldn't have a gun in the first place.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, oh, he's. Oh, that's a good point. He's in deep trouble now.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, yeah, he was already in trouble,

[Phil Carter]

but he's admitted to using meth.

[Tim Pool]

They're gonna add this too and be like, they're. If he. If this goes to trial, they'll be like, do you use meth? He's gonna be like, no. And they're gonna be like, you say you did. He's gonna either have to admit everything's fake. I think it's all fake. Like, he claims he wakes up in the morning and hits himself in the face with a hammer. It's just fake stuff.

[Carter Banks]

I kind of believe it, though.

[Tim Pool]

It's possible. But I would say this. Either way, it shows a serious problem with. For Gen Z, you're not going to make enough money at your job to buy a house. So Gen Z has stopped saving. In order to get fame and attention, you have to be a. You have to be retarded. So clavicle is like a clavicular.

[Ian Crossland]

Whatever is like Brandon Peters.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. He's like. He says he does meth.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm sorry, Braden.

[Tim Pool]

He sterilized himself?

[Phil Carter]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

That's the kind of thing he thinks he needs to do to get attention, and that's what's working.

[Ian Crossland]

Sterilize himself.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he. Because he takes testosterone, right? Yeah, yeah, he's Sterile. He's. He's sterile. He's sterile.

[Ian Crossland]

Literally.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Carter]

He says.

[Ian Crossland]

He said out loud, I'm sterile.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Safeway/Albertsons Announcer]

Crazy.

[Tim Pool]

And his balls shrunk.

[Seth Keshel]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

He. He named himself after the clavicle, Right, that bone.

[Tim Pool]

The funny thing is, here's. Here's why I think it's fake, personally, but what a. I'm gonna tell you why I think it's fake, because the dude might be like, let me. Let me do this.

[Ian Crossland]

Let's call him Braden, come humiliate.

[Tim Pool]

Well, everybody knows what his name is. The reason I'm gonna tell you why I think it's fake. Let me find. Let me find the mug shot of him. This is why I think he's not really doing any of these things. His chin is off center. His lips are imbalanced. He's got one nostril bigger than the other. His eyes. He's got. He's. He's. He's got offset eyes. Like, I don't think this guy's actually looks maximum.

[Carter Banks]

See what he looked like originally, though, before he claims to have.

[Tim Pool]

Is there an original photo?

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, there's like a. A previous. Like when he was 16 or something like that.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, the looks, Max.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I don't believe that.

[Phil Carter]

Well, could be lies, but.

[Ian Crossland]

What is it?

[Tim Pool]

I'm pulling it up.

[Carter Banks]

Supposedly that's him in the beginning before he.

[Ian Crossland]

Max, I don't.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think that's true. I don't think he's done, like, airbrushing maybe, but. And you can exercise, but I don't think he's done the more extreme things that he's claimed to do. Like his ears are uneven, his eyes are. I was like, I don't believe this guy is actually working really, really hard in terms of the extreme things, like hitting yourself with a hammer and getting surgeries. I think he's probably just generally working out, maybe taking testosterone. But that seems weird for a 19 housing. 19. No, you don't need to take testosterone.

[Carter Banks]

He was taking it since before. I think it, like, ruined his puberty even. This is what I heard. I don't know if that's true.

[Seth Keshel]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

This is like the. The male version of the Jazz Jennings or plastic surgery. It's not quite trans, but it's sort of the body maxing thing is kind of trans.

[Seth Keshel]

We've created a pretty. We've created a pretty unhealthy society for young folks that feel like they need to keep up with everyone else's social media. A lot of those kids that are in The. In their early teens think that they're. They're the long and short of what their life is, is to become an influencer.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah.

[Seth Keshel]

And it results. But they have to outdo one another constantly and get more and more crazy with the kind of content they make. And that, of course, makes it dangerous for everybody else.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah. I love.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, part of me. I. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He's 19.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, I don't know what it is. Vengeance. I like seeing the. The prankster get up. Like, I like seeing the prankster going too far and then the guy reacting normal and the guy up, and the guy's like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And you're like, yeah, I know. And you're gonna be more sorry. I love that.

[Tim Pool]

I just.

[Ian Crossland]

I. I feel like they deserve it, and it satisfies me, but it's like, I don't want to, like, go down that hellhole too much, but I do love watching bullies get the. Kicked out of them, man.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, is this. He was arrested for running someone over. Is that what it was?

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, that's what I heard when I first heard his name. It was because of him being arrested for him.

[Tim Pool]

So is this. This is it? Maybe.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Pool]

You probably just ran him over.

[Seth Keshel]

Oops.

[Phil Carter]

What the.

[Tim Pool]

Is this it? I don't know how you don't see it. You can't see anything. Like, I think. I mean, he got arrested, but I wonder how much of this is fake. You know what I mean? Like, because in the videos, you never actually see them doing anything. Like that gator. I gotta be honest, guys, in the social media age, you buy a dummy dead gator, you pull up, you throw it in the water, you shoot into it. You're on a private piece of land that's swampy, that looks like the Everglades. And then you say, you did it. Everyone says, that's illegal. You're gonna go to jail. We make segments about it, and then you're like, it was a stunt. Stunt. It was a stunt done on a controlled set with a prop. And then with this, you don't actually see anything.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, I could all just watch.

[Tim Pool]

Here's a guy jumping on his car. You don't see anything.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Now they're saying he was arrested. I bet he wasn't even. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't arrested. And it's just influencers going, man, he got arrested.

[Carter Banks]

Jail records.

[Ian Crossland]

Drum up some attention, man. Get your name out there. Clavicular. Braden. Sorry, dude. I don't hate you. I just. It's sad to see a guy in his mid-20s overdose on drugs, get super famous and burn out and die. He's like, early 20s. Fame is a drug, dude. And you're a better human than what you look like.

[Tim Pool]

He appeared to run over someone who was jumping on his truck claiming self defense. It's unclear whether it was a stage stunt. I think it's all fake. Right. Like, I don't. I don't think the dude actually Bone smashes does method. These are all shock claims. 19 year olds don't need to take testosterone. His testosterone is probably already like 800. You know what I mean?

[Phil Carter]

That he does. Right. Like, I've seen video of him actually doing it. He's not like hitting himself hard. It's very much just tapping on.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. You can do it with your own hands too.

[Tim Pool]

I know. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's real.

[Ian Crossland]

It'll grow in the direction you push.

[Tim Pool]

It would damage the skin and then he would have welts and damaged skin in his face.

[Ian Crossland]

I would like, pull my jaw open.

[Seth Keshel]

Like, pull it.

[Tim Pool]

That's not a thing either.

[Ian Crossland]

It moves over time. It's like clay. Bone is kind of like clay.

[Carter Banks]

My friend's dad said instead of braces, he just pushed on one of his teeth every day for like two years and it fixed it.

[Ian Crossland]

What'll happen is you push it and then it starts growing in that direction until it gets pushed in a new direction and then it starts growing in that direction. From my experience is what it seems like.

[Tim Pool]

That's also how you get ingrown toenails.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, people will cut their nails too short.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then it'll start growing down and then it'll get. And then it's on that.

[Ian Crossland]

I figured that out in my 20s. That's a good thing for people to learn. Like, don't cut your nails too short. And you will not get ingrown.

[Safeway/Albertsons Announcer]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Because then it can't. I think social media is largely fake. But the, the point is whether or not this guy's real or it's all just one big reality TV show, which is. I think it's probably reality tv. I don't think I get arrested. I think the, the shooting that they were doing is probably all staged and fake and they're lying. Like, there might have been controlled backstop. You can't see off camera because they want to make shot content. I do think it's possible there are a bunch of running around shooting guns. That happens too.

[Phil Carter]

Going with retards, it's really easy to

[Tim Pool]

fake all this stuff. I mean, most of the Internet is fake. You've got reaction videos. People are reacting to AI videos they make. They'll go on to grok, they'll make an AI video and then they'll react to it and go, whoa. And they'll get a million views and you'll get paid. So I don't, I don't see why anybody would have to do what he's doing. Literally the vehicular assault, you never actually seen anything happen. And in fact, the guy rolls off the side, it looks like he didn't even get hit. It did not look like assault at all. It looks fake.

[Phil Carter]

He got run over.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he rolls at the top of the truck. I don't think so. I think, I think I would lean more towards. He's a character. He was propped up. It's reality TV content. It's just meant to be shocking Internet content.

[Ian Crossland]

He does seem high. I will say that I've seen some of his videos and he looks like I looked in my mid-20s.

[Tim Pool]

High as hell.

[Ian Crossland]

Like maybe it was weed.

[Tim Pool]

It's probably acting.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe, but he's so high. He seems very like high actor, if you maybe. But he's really, really vapid like that,

[Tim Pool]

that whole like I, I, I, I look. The point is this. Gen Z is seeing this being told it's real and they're being told this is how you get famous. So the unfortunate end result is a lot of young people, Gen Alpha are going to be like, I want to be famous like him too. And they will start doing these things and running out running people over and stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

That's why I like seeing these bullies get their comeuppance. Yes, that's a good way to put it.

[Tim Pool]

Why?

[Ian Crossland]

I like seeing these, like, these publicity stunt mongrels getting like slapped back down to reality. I do like that because I don't, I think it's an emergent and phenomenon that people will start replicating if we don't stop it. Like, I don't want people running up to someone in a, in a shopping mall with a fake gun and being like, get on the ground. And then be. It's a prank, dude.

[Tim Pool]

Bro, look at, look at the mall not too far from here that we sometimes go to. Where the, Was it the doordash driver? Remember the story?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, he shot the guy.

[Tim Pool]

He shot the guy in the chest. It was a prank because the guy kept shoving something in his face and he backs up and he pulls his gun and shoots him. Like I don't know what's going on. And then they criminally charged the guy who's defending himself. Insane self defense. That's Virginia. My opinion, I think he got he. That the shooter was acquitted though.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, he maybe he maybe back then but nowadays he would not be.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Phil Carter]

They were both white with the existing AG.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yep. Yeah. If, if the YouTuber was black, maybe. Yeah. For real. If the YouTuber is white and the guy shooting was black, no charges. If the YouTuber is black and the shooter is white, he's getting locked up for 20 years. You know, if they're both white, I think people just say like I don't care.

[Ian Crossland]

You think having clavicular on the show would be a good idea? No, Nick Fuentes does it pretty well.

[Tim Pool]

But like Nick Fuentes has ideas about things, whether he's right or wrong. Clavicular is just a functional retard.

[Ian Crossland]

Hard just bring them on to be like, hey, change your life please. Million people watching.

[Tim Pool]

Like what are we, Dr.

[Phil Carter]

Intervention?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, basically. Yeah. I mean, hey, you want to be

[Tim Pool]

a social, bring them on.

[Ian Crossland]

Make a culture jam. Fix this guy.

[Phil Carter]

I, I don't think that we should be bringing people on to, to try and have an intervention set him straight.

[Ian Crossland]

You don't. That's what I want to do in 2026.

[Phil Carter]

This is how he makes money, right? Like this ridiculousness is what he actually does. Like the ridiculousness is how he has a fan base. We're not going to be like, hey dude, you should stop doing this. He's like, yeah, I'm not going to make the money that I make.

[Tim Pool]

Stop.

[Ian Crossland]

But do it better. Do it help people.

[Seth Keshel]

So people do this on Twitter or X all the time. It's not as extreme as this, but the X economy is similar. 40% higher engagement for negative and black pilling posts. And that's why if you want to get into the political side of things, why people are so negative. There's a lot of things to analyze that go for the long run. Good, bad and everything in between. But a lot of people have figured out how to monetize and make it. Make it Hum.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, I mean I. The monetization on X is. I'm, I'm. There are good things and bad things about it because you do see people trying to make more nuanced posts with, with intelligent takes. But you know, there's still the situation where it's like you get some kind of slop picture or whatever and you make a dumb comment it goes, goes viral for some reason or you just say something that's controversial and people are just like, oh, some of the biggest posts that I've ever put. It ends up like breaking kind of out of my bubble and it goes into space with people that strongly disagree with me. And then the, the, you know, the, the replies are just a never ending stream of criticism and telling me how stupid I am. But it's like, I mean, you made me a boatload of money this week, you know, so that, that happens regularly too.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, that's why people screenshot folks when they want to rip on them. So they don't get any benefit from the share. Yeah, but it's a, I think that people that put content out there, if, if X is making revenue on it, then that makes sense to me.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah.

[Seth Keshel]

You know, I've had friends that played Major League Baseball and you talk about some of these player salaries. Well, if they're contributing to the team's bottom line, then of course that's your share of this. But I, I think that people game the system. People are quick to, they don't want to do their own research. I say it all the time. We have more access to information than anybody, any people that have ever lived before, but less discernment than any group of people that ever lived before. All this stuff is out there to research and analyze.

[Phil Carter]

Yep.

[Seth Keshel]

Even electoral forecasting, which I do.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah.

[Seth Keshel]

How are the midterms going to go? Well, I've got 92 years of history that could tell you how they're probably going to go. Democrats, Democrats in the House, Republicans in the Senate. Narrow majorities.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then Democrats are going to use the subpoena power to the most extreme degree imaginable. And Republicans are going to go ball, unfortunately. Yep.

[Phil Carter]

Whoa. I mean, the Democrats are going to take the House. Do you think that they're actually going to start just doing all kinds of impeachments and stuff? Do you think that's on the table?

[Seth Keshel]

Honestly, I think what's going to. So, so the fight isn't over. You know, I think if you're a Republican or a Trump supporter, of course you want to do everything possible to keep a Republican majority, but the damage is already done because people disengage during primaries, which is the time to get rid of these useless incumbents. So really the best you're going to get is really the same we have now. But I think in the long run that Democrats taking the House will arguably be a better blessing for the American right than the Republicans holding it because you're going to have. Trump's economy will probably turn at some point. It takes a long time to turn an aircraft carrier around. The Dems are going to abuse the power. And just like in 23 when Trump had done two years of being blamed for J6 in elections, it's going to unify the right. It'll turn. People's short memory spans are going to come into play here. And all of a sudden, if Trump's economy turns, then you're going to have. In 2028, everybody's going to be running a Republican again.

[Tim Pool]

This happened in 22 with Desantis. He starts rising up and then you get the Desantis faction and the Trump faction fighting. And then once we get closer to 24, everyone started uniting again. So here we are. Everyone's like, oh, maga's, the coalition is fractured and things like that. Like right now, after the Democrats win in the House and they start just, just beating the crap out of people, then you're going to get the right rallying against a shared enemy.

[Seth Keshel]

It's a no doubter to me. I'm not worried about the midterms. People need to start getting involved in the process and putting forward regular people that can raise funds and run for office. Until then, we're going to have people like John Thune punch out like we did here on an Easter break.

[Tim Pool]

But it's always going to be. I don't think we ever change this, to be completely honest. Let me clarify. I don't think in the short term we change this. In the long term, maybe things will change. But there, if, if you're, once you get to that level of power, you know, the amount of work you have to do to maintain that power, you're not going to swing one way or the other. You're going to just float. You don't want to be rallying anybody. You'll draw attention to yourself. Marco Rubio is doing real well in the polls by kind of just being quiet. He's doing his job. He's not fighting anybody. He's not posting insane things like f the Democrats or whatever. And it's doing well for him. I mean, I like it, to be honest.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah, I think that the 2028 nomination contest is going to be interesting. I would think that J.D. vance would probably have the inside edge based on being the VP right now. For there to be a market for anybody else, I think you'd have to have a real collapse of the administration for the next few years. And I don't Think too many people want that to happen.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Right now, the prediction markets have it almost tied. Rubio and Vance. I mean, vance is at 37. Rubio's at 26. My bets on Rubio. I mean, Carlson.

[Phil Carter]

There's talk. There is talk.

[Tim Pool]

My bet would be on Rubio, actually. I'm not telling anybody to make any bets. Just don't.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, the best bet out there is Susan Collins at 27% to win the U.S. senate and Maine. She is going to win

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[Phil Carter]

Yeah, I. I don't imagine that that the.

[Seth Keshel]

That she ran 40 points to the right of Obama in 08 in Maine.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Carter]

And Graham Platner's terrible. She's Platinum is the guy she's going against. Right. The guy with the knots.

[Seth Keshel]

I don't think that's the society yet. Janet Mills, the governor, is also running, so I. I have a feeling.

[Tim Pool]

So this is the. That's the nominee. Do they have the actual main race? Let me just type in Maine.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, I'm not sure.

[Seth Keshel]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, wow. So it's not that they have the Democrats winning Maine at 71.7%. Is that what you were referring to?

[Seth Keshel]

Yes. And. And Sarah Gideon was the Democrat challenger to Collins in 2020, winning every single poll. Literally. And Collins won by nine points.

[Phil Carter]

Wow.

[Seth Keshel]

So it's simple. Maine, second district up in the north, is very trumpy. And Susan Collins wins that and does better with the Bostonite voters down in the south. And there's your, there's election.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting.

[Seth Keshel]

I think that that demographic of voter likes to sound like, hey, we vote for both parties up here and we're fair.

[Tim Pool]

Let's, let's jump to this next story. Let's talk about Black Snape. We got this from Outkick. J.K. rowling reacts to HBO's Harry Potter race swapping controversy. Incorrect. She did not. She reacted to the trailer. And in response to it, someone said the trailer for the new Harry Potter, Harry Potter looks bloody. Marvels can't wait. Neither can the rest of the world. Says, it's gonna be incredible. I'm happy with it. She did not directly address Black Snape, but I love, love, love, love that they're doing this because it changes Harry Potter fundamentally in so many ways. So Hermione Granger is gonna be mixed race, giving mud blood a new meaning. And Snape being black changes everything. There's this funny quote from the book where Harry Potter's mom is like, you know, what is it about Snape that you won't leave him alone? And James Potter says, it's nothing about him other. And so everybody's like, oh, man, if they follow the book to the T, it's going to be about Harry Potter's white supremacist dad picking on the black kid and his mom who, despite knowing the black kid her whole life, refused to date him. Before, it was just like childhood friends and she chose the jock instead of the nerd. Now it's a race thing. And then the other thing that's funny is in like in the first book, they constantly accuse Snape of trying to steal the philosopher's stone, Sorcerer's stone, depending on your region. It's gonna be really funny when, like, the kids are like, professor Dumbledore, it's the black guy who's trying to steal everything. And he's gonna be like, no, no, that's racist. Don't say that.

[Phil Carter]

It's gonna be an absolute mess.

[Tim Pool]

I don't, I don't mind race swapping in some circumstances. Like some people have said Idris Elba should not be James Bond because James Bond's white. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. Idris Elba can absolutely be James Bond. I have no. I. He's, he'd be fantastic. I don't care about his politics or whatever, but he is built. He could be a James Bond character. I have no problem with that. I also respect people saying, we want a traditional Englishman to play James Bond, to which I say Fair point. So I'm like, I think if you're talking about a British spy, Atris Elba is fine. But I do get why you'd rather have an Englishman who is traditionally Englishman, a white guy. But I'm not going to get all that bent out of shape now. Anne Boleyn, when they made Anne Boleyn black, I'm like, come on, guys.

[Phil Carter]

Nobody had a problem with Nick Fury when Sam Jackson was Nick Fury.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. And they, and they, and they actually swapped Fury in the comics so they could get Sam Jackson to play. Nick Fury is originally a white guy with like a buzz cut and, or a flat top or whatever. And then they, they actually planned this. They're like, hey, in the future we want Sam Jackson to be Nick Fury. So let's make Nick Fury in the comic black. But Sam Jackson's awesome. He's a great Nick Fury.

[Phil Carter]

He was great.

[Tim Pool]

And that's a made up character. I will say this. Make new characters. You don't need to race. Swap characters. Like, they were like, let's have Iron man be a black girl. Okay. So they made Ironheart, Ruby Williams, and it's like, at least it's kind of a new character. You know what I mean? Like, they didn't make Tony Stark one day wake up as a black girl. Miles Morales is a, is a parallel Spider man, but they actually did the parallel Spider man stories, so I don't really care. But I like the Miles Morales character. It's fine. But taking Snape, who's supposed to be like a hook nosed, pale, gangly 30 year old and being like, let's make him a black guy.

[Ian Crossland]

He's like an underground guy that showers every two weeks who doesn't get any sunlight.

[Tim Pool]

I, I also love how he's gonna, he desperately wants to be the Defense against the Dark Arts teacher. It's just like there's so much buried racism they're adding to the story by making this character black in general question,

[Ian Crossland]

is this a remake?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Well, technically, yes.

[Seth Keshel]

Okay.

[Phil Carter]

They're.

[Ian Crossland]

Are they gonna remake also?

[Tim Pool]

Well, books. I don't, I don't know if it's fair to call it a remake because it's a book and they did an adaptation. Adaptation. And they're doing another adaptation. So the original movies deviated a bit and left a lot out. The idea is with this new HBO series, they can keep a lot that was left out in the books in the actual story. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you. I am not gonna watch it. And I am. This is I read the first book when I was a little kid. I think I was like fourth grade. Read the second book right when it came out. I was eagerly awaiting each book, excited as a child. I remember when they announced like the final book will be coming out. I remember when there was that controversy where someone standing in line at a bookstore screamed Snape kills Dumbledore. And everyone started screaming. The video went viral. And could you bro reading the Half Blood Prince at the end. And everybody was speculating like, why did Snape do it? And there were theories. It was so much fun. And then the last book came out. When the movies came out, a lot of people don't understand that Flight was actually a really big deal for Death Eaters. And at the end where he's like, let's do it together. And they jump out. It's all for the movie. And it omitted so much. Like Avada Kedavra, for instance. In the books, when they hit you with it, you just. Your life is gone and you collapse. In the movies, they get blasted back 20ft. In the movies, Harry cast Expelliarmus, which always just makes your wand fly to your hand. But Draco goes flying back 20ft and crashes on the ground. Right? All of that stuff. Let's see if they can stick to the actual books. That being said, I can tell you all about Harry Potter because I grew up with it. And I will not watch this.

[Ian Crossland]

I read those books over 9 11. They got me through. I used to work 6pm to 6am at Ground Zero and I would read Harry Potter all night. The great story. Almost everything about that story is great. I only read like six books of the seven. Except for that stupid game Quidditch that

[Tim Pool]

they play, which made no sense.

[Ian Crossland]

It's the best foot. It's the best game ever. And then one guy catches a ball and the entire game ends. Everyone goes home.

[Tim Pool]

Incorrect. Like what?

[Ian Crossland]

That's.

[Tim Pool]

Clearly have not read the books.

[Ian Crossland]

If someone catches the Golden Snitch, the game ends and that team wins.

[Tim Pool]

No. Incorrect. They get 200 points. I believe it. Correct me if I'm wrong. It might be in book four in which they explicitly have a Quidditch match. It might be five where they say we are currently down by 167, like 170 points. If you catch the Snitch now, we lose.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, you'll get 150 points or something.

[Tim Pool]

And then the game is over. And if you are down, you lose. So this meant that the rival team scored 17 goals. The difference was so great. That at that point they could not catch the snitch until they at least caught up a couple goals, which actually,

[Ian Crossland]

that makes it a lot better, but

[Tim Pool]

actually that makes it a fine game. Meaning typically, catching the snitch will win you the game if you can do it quickly, but if you're down way too much now, you can't end the game intentionally. So it actually is an interesting strategy then, where it's like, if you are losing by 15 goals, you have to make up goals before you can try

[Ian Crossland]

and catch the snitch without being hyper offensive towards women. Like, that's a sport that was created by a girl. Why?

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean?

[Ian Crossland]

I think the stupidest, stupid sport, where one. You catch one ball and you get 150 in, the game ends. And so what.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean?

[Ian Crossland]

It's like a nonsense game.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I mean, fake excitement for us

[Carter Banks]

does place a lot of responsibility on the snitch catcher.

[Phil Carter]

They are on flying brooms.

[Ian Crossland]

I know, but, like, get rid of the snitch and the game would have been awesome.

[Tim Pool]

I actually, I have no problem with that as a game.

[Ian Crossland]

I shouldn't say that about the woman that wrote that game because she's a great writer. I really like her.

[Tim Pool]

I think the bigger problem is that the whole. The whole series is loaded with plot holes and things that make no sense. Like, and then what happens is, throughout the book series, it's kind of fine until you get into the Fantastic Beasts, where all of a sudden it's like, anyone can apparate. And it's like, okay, then what's the point of the flu network? Some people can't. Some people are. She's. What is it? A maledictus. She turns into a snake. Some people can be transfigured into animals, or they can choose to. And it's really hard to. And it's like, huh? Like when Mad Eye turns Draco into a ferret or whatever. It's like, we don't use transfigurations as punishment, but it's like others have to train to be able to do it, but someone could just do it to you. Whatever, man. Like, it's fun. I love the story, but there's so much that's wrong with it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Anyway, what do we have? I think I've got some. Nope, that's clavicular. Where is the. Where are the tweets on this one? Someone said. Just realized that when Neville faces the Boggart, it's going to look like his biggest fear is a black guy hiding in A closet.

[Phil Carter]

This is just. I mean, it's.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Phil Carter]

That's just so ripe for all kinds of racial jokes and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Yup.

[Phil Carter]

You know, it's just gonna make.

[Tim Pool]

People are pointing out that the little boy who plays hair in this one looks like an old lesbian woman. And I'm like, I'm not gonna make fun of a little kid for, you know, whatever. Although he is toothy, which is interesting. So males, typically, you can't see their teeth. Their upper teeth. Did you guys know this

[Phil Carter]

at all?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, when. When a man talks or smiles, you usually don't see their upper teeth for the most part. But women, you see a lot of it. And actually some women are called gummy because their lips are thin, and when they smile, you can see actually the top layer of gums. So for this little boy to be as up. Highly toothy as. As he is, many people are saying it's very effeminate. That's why it looks like a woman. But, you know, it's a little kid. I'm not here to make fun of little kids or anything like that.

[Ian Crossland]

I thought this was an AI and they got like a little girl that they were going to make a tramp trans boy to be Harry Potter and they got a black snake.

[Seth Keshel]

Look at this.

[Ian Crossland]

I thought it was A.I. a parody, and now it's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

And Snape has, like, dreadlocks because they're

[Carter Banks]

like, he has to have long hair somehow.

[Tim Pool]

How is he gonna be Snape? Is he going to talk like this?

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Talk like this.

[Seth Keshel]

She's gonna have to do what everybody else does. When you have something like this and figure out how to suspend reality, that's how you people enjoyed pro wrestling all those years.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I have no problem. It's a. It's a story about wizards. You know what I mean? The issue is that there's a lot that is fine if it's being done to the gangly white guy. And there's a lot that's very. When it's being done to the young black guy, you know, like they're adding a component of racism. The lens for which this will be viewed is gonna be very, very different to a child.

[Seth Keshel]

Do you think people are still as up in arms about this sort of thing as they were 10 years ago?

[Tim Pool]

Like race swapping or just.

[Seth Keshel]

Just in general? It seems like back on the Generation Z folks, it seems like they're a little more edgy with the types of jokes and.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, bro. The race jokes that are flying out about this are nuts, dude. The memes are going crazy. They are going to roast this guy based on race. You like, Gen Z is just done playing games in the theater.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, I did 20 years in the theater. It was normal to race swap or gender swap. Didn't matter. You know, we were all having fun. You could play a black woman or a white guy. Didn't matter what the character, who was who. But on tv, it's a lot different. I think cinema and film, they require a level of realism.

[Phil Carter]

Generally, the context matters. Right prior to all the Woke stuff happening, people didn't really notice. Like, particularly in theater, where it was a very fairly selective group of people that were going to see plays and stuff like that. Whereas nowadays, with the. Or at least not. Maybe not now, but, you know, from say, 2013 to 2023, like, the. The culture in the US was doing so much to try and try and, like, trying to shape the opinions of people so that people started to notice and push back.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta say one last thing before we go to our Discord Chat questions. Have you guys seen the lawsuit against the comedian for saying about Lion King song? I just saw the Viva Fry thing up there on the screen. You guys hear this. So his comedian, he's from Africa, I believe, and he's doing this podcast where he says, they're talking about Lion King. And he's like, you know that song?

[Ian Crossland]

I was like, oh, I've seen that. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He's like, you know what they're saying? And like, what's saying? He's saying. He goes, the song says, look, it's a lion. Oh, my God. And they're like, that's not what he's saying. He's like, that's what it means. He is correct. He's being sued because the composer says it doesn't. It doesn't convey the actual regal meaning behind it. And what he said was defamatory. And now he's losing, like, he risks losing royalties and he's doing damage. It's like a $27 million lawsuit. So I said, okay, I'm gonna look it up. And guess what the lyrics mean. Look, there's a lion. Oh, my God. The issue is the word lion also represents royal, like, strength and royalty. So the. The. It can be translated as, look, a great leader. Oh, my God. Or at the same time, look, a lion. Oh, my God. And that's literally Wayne's. And then it goes, look, there's a lion. Oh, my God. Yes, that's a lion.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, that Guy, whoever. That guy who did the joke was joking. He wasn't defaming.

[Tim Pool]

No, he's telling the truth. That's actually a direct translation of what it means. And everybody. And. And everybody hears this, like, Zulu cry and this powerful song, and it feels majestic, and it's just literally going, look, a lion. Oh, my God. And I looked it up, and it's. It's. It's. It translates to something to that effect.

[Carter Banks]

I never knew it meant anything. I thought they were just chanting.

[Tim Pool]

Gets called another language. Carter, remember this? How do we. How do we pull up the chat

[Ian Crossland]

here song from Civ 4.

[Carter Banks]

You go to click on them.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's right there. I see it.

[Ian Crossland]

That's like an African show chat. Oh, it is so good.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Ian Crossland]

That song from Civ 4.

[Tim Pool]

No, the.

[Ian Crossland]

This. It's like the. The song that loads when you play the game.

[Seth Keshel]

Let's.

[Tim Pool]

We're gonna grab comments and chats. I don't know if you guys have been asking questions or not, but I'm just gonna read what you guys are saying. So we've got this one from pre Mark Tech. He says, tim, you can absolutely shoot firearms in the air by land mass. It is more legal to shoot into the air than not. Proof. Duck and squirrel hunting. You're using game load. You're not shooting.556 at birds or 9 millimeter.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That being said, what goes up must come down. And some bullets have terminal velocity high enough to injure or kill. It is your responsibility to be safe and accountable for every shot you fire. Indeed. Android. Wow says question. Given the Chinese bombing attempt on centcom, do you think China directed the attack rather than solo actors? If so, was it because they feared the US Solidifying global hegemony through our recent actions? Or was it perhaps an opportunistic shot while we're busy? I mean, we did talk about the other day. I honestly don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

I think it was opportunistic. I don't think the ccp. Because if they.

[Tim Pool]

What opportunity.

[Ian Crossland]

Just some people, some crazy.

[Tim Pool]

I know. But what was the opportunity?

[Ian Crossland]

Hurt the enemy, hurt them. You know, get them. Get them where they hurt. But I don't know what they're like.

[Tim Pool]

But again, like, I have a feeling this.

[Ian Crossland]

If the CCP instructed that, that would be the beginning of their downfall. They don't want to start a war with the world, because that is, if they attack the United States, that does trigger Article 5 of Naomi.

[Phil Carter]

They do those kind of things all the time. They've introduced blights into The United States to destroy crops. They've done all kinds of stuff that can't be directly tied to them or wouldn't be considered a direct attack. But they do this kind of stuff frequently.

[Ian Crossland]

I should clarify. I don't think there will be any direct connection found. Maybe there was, but I don't think they're gonna have any kind of paper trail or digital trail or any of that.

[Tim Pool]

But there's no benefit from some random Chinese national planning a bomb. Yeah, there's a benefit for the Chinese government.

[Ian Crossland]

What's that?

[Tim Pool]

There's a benefit to China's government.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, there's not really a benefit to any of these idiots doing street crime, except they just. They think that they're right.

[Tim Pool]

This is terror. This was attempted bombing of a military base of centcom, which greatly benefits China as a government. So why would the loan actor do it? Ideological, I guess.

[Phil Carter]

Or the chaos is the point. Right. Like the point of it is to just to sow chaos in the United States. It's not like they're like, strategically saying, hey, this is going to take out the base. They want to sow chaos because what they want is the American people to be fighting with each other about what to do.

[Ian Crossland]

If there was an American in China that. That set off a bomb near one of their buildings and then fled to the US that would have been an international incident. So I just don't think that the Chinese would do it. That's why. Because I can't imagine our government doing it that overtly.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah, I think I agree with you on that. I don't think there's any risk of trying to kick something off on a bigger scale like that, but China is definitely going to be feeling the heat with Venezuela and Iran operations.

[Tim Pool]

Hell, Billy says, phil, do a desk Pop. No.

[Howie Mandel]

Where I.

[Phil Carter]

You shoot your gun at your desk.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. What was that from? Was that like Reno 911 or something?

[Phil Carter]

The wrong guys.

[Tim Pool]

The wrong guys. Right, right, right.

[Phil Carter]

No, I'm not doing a desk pop. Don't be.

[Tim Pool]

Secret Service agent shot himself, I guess.

[Ian Crossland]

Millennials.

[Tim Pool]

No. Joe Biden.

[Phil Carter]

Negligent discharge.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Hades says two questions. Perhaps we can address SB 1071 in West Virginia and how the president of your Senate killed it. What are you doing to advance it? Like getting it added to HB 4185. Canada just made quoting the Bible hate speech. What's the best way to resist that insane law? SB 1071, of course. Was it the machine gun one? Let me look that one up.

[Phil Carter]

Probably.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's the a bill to amend the code, adding designated blah, blah, blah. I don't know enough about why they blocked it. I think we were talking about when they were introducing it, though, but I don't know. I have to follow up on it. Sorry. No. Good answer.

[Ian Crossland]

Humans are cool, man. We built laws.

[Tim Pool]

How do you. How do you get around the Bible as hate speech in Canada?

[Phil Carter]

I have no idea. Canadians don't have free speech, so I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I got it figured out. Read the Bible in Arabic so you're actually preaching the gospel of Christ, but in Arabic. And then if they challenge you, be like, whoa, whoa, don't you know which one I'm preaching? And then they're like, oh, what if it's Islam? Can't arrest them for it. But it was Christianity the whole time.

[Phil Carter]

Protected speech when it's.

[Tim Pool]

I mean.

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[Tim Pool]

Remember when people would draw the arch of the fish with their feet because if you were a Christian, they'd kill you?

[Ian Crossland]

Is it Abraham? The real one? Like the real prophet? It.

[Tim Pool]

He's a og.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What does that. What does that mean?

[Ian Crossland]

The real Jesus? Muhammad? Like, let's just go back to ab. Let's all get down with Abraham.

[Tim Pool]

That's the Jews.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, but they're all in emotion.

[Tim Pool]

And then Jesus is the Messiah who came to fulfill the. The promise and saved a fallen world and, you know, all that stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

I kind of want to lift up Abraham for a little while.

[Tim Pool]

And then get Christians like him too.

[Ian Crossland]

Get in a doubt.

[Tim Pool]

But then Jesus came and he's the Messiah. Don't believe that.

[Phil Carter]

I'm going to lift up this guy. A totally different religion.

[Tim Pool]

Religion. The Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet who will come back and expose all the Christians as false worshipers.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm surprised Abraham doesn't get it more because, like Judah came along and like, must have been really badass actually. Judah, you know, Jacob's son, they named the tribe after him.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's funny how people are referring to these two factions of Charlie Kirk supporters as the Sunni Kirks or the Shia Kirk supporters because I made this joke where I said I'm launching a new debate show, but instead of debating, it's just me and another person pulling up texts. Charlie Kirk sent us to justify our positions. And then, you know, Posobic was like, SUNY Kirk versus Shia Kirk. Which is like basically it. But that's all everyone's doing. Like all of these personnel are like, you know, Charlie Kirk said to me, this thing that proves my point. And then someone else goes, well, Charlie Kirk said to me this thing that proves my point. There are people posting clips of Charlie Kirk after the 12 day war saying, I stand with Trump on this war. And then there are other people pulling up clips from before the war saying, no war with Iran. And I'm like, what do we, what are we, what are we doing?

[Phil Carter]

You can, you can like have the opinion before the war started, you can, you can easily say, I think it's a bad idea to start a war with Iran. And then when the war starts, say, well, this is the reality we're living in. So I hope that the results of the war are the best for the United States. That's totally consistent.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, 100. A lot of people are getting ahead of. I'm not saying that just like you, you know, I think that there's good reasons before it all kicked off. But when, when people are really doomcasting about what's going on in Iran right now, then they're looking at remembering Afghanistan and Iraq. The 4th Infantry Division's camped out in hard stand buildings for a 9 or 12 month deployment cycle. Even went up to 15 months at some time and you had had contractors there making three times what the green suitors were making. People are looking back at that. And really to run everything back to what we talked about earlier. All throughout history, counterinsurgencies have been massive failures. Unless they're on islands and you can use the Navy to cut off the flow of personnel and arms divide the population and destroy the enemy. So Iran is different than Iraq. It's number one. It's four times the geographic size of Iraq. Population is about double. And you have massive terrain advantages for any force that is trying to defend. I think the only hope. Hope for bringing things to a legitimate regime change would be for the local nations or for the locals to be able to displace that government, because we're not gonna be able to do it. And I. And I don't even think President Trump would do that. I do think we have special operators in country for sure. Yeah, I do think they'll take Carg island, but I don't see a massive conventional operation.

[Tim Pool]

There's just too many people.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think the Israelis will instigate anything?

[Seth Keshel]

They won't put anybody on the ground.

[Ian Crossland]

Because I think yesterday we were talking about NATO, how it's like a defensive pact. And I was like, but it's not a military alliance. And I was like, oh, we're in a military alliance with isra. If one of us attacks, the other one automatically is attacked.

[Tim Pool]

We are also in a military alliance with NATO.

[Ian Crossland]

No, not an attack. Not. That's a. It's a defensive pact. It's been a military alliance. It's place of. I mean, it's. I'm just calling it from Civ. A defensive pact only triggers on. If one of them is attacked.

[Phil Carter]

You're calling it from a video game.

[Ian Crossland]

Military alliances trigger when one of them

[Tim Pool]

goes to war aggressively and we fund their militaries.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm not denying that.

[Tim Pool]

Right. That's.

[Ian Crossland]

Israel and the US De facto have a military.

[Tim Pool]

Our military alliance with European nations that we are funding their military. We have expectations on their return via gdp.

[Ian Crossland]

If there's a.

[Tim Pool]

They have to pay back.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, if there's. That, it's in writing. That's so.

[Tim Pool]

Like in Libya, for instance, we. We used France to go in and bomb the crap out of these people. That is our military alliance with European nations. We obviously are allied with European nations for war.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, Europe suddenly cares now because the Iranians can hit Diego Garcia.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, right.

[Phil Carter]

Which means they can hit Europe.

[Tim Pool]

Oops. Yeah, let's grab this question. We've got. Who do we have here? We got Taylor Lorenz's. What does that say? I can't read it. It's all weird. Weird. Atrazine Maxer saying. I'm referring to your Trump 1 segment today as someone who fell into a bit of a lack of enthusiasm. I'm all gas. No Brakes on Trump stand up versus bricks. Do you think if Trump wins here that he can fulfill the question in the remaining two years, or will a pro NWO Dem just reverse it all in 2028? I think if Trump succeeds, the tide will have shifted so dramatically that nothing's going to stop it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's why this is Trump's gambit, the move on Iran. If he wins here, he wins the board. Not that the bat. Not that everything's over. But it puts him to a point where there is just not enough resource on the other side to push him back down. It's all downhill from there, all easy.

[Phil Carter]

And also that if he does produce the. If he wins, the results for the American population are gonna be very noticeable. Right. If, say, this war ends, say just for a day, say, it's in July. Right.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil Carter]

And then you're out of. Out of Iran. You don't have a lingering large force. And then the US Starts to see real benefits from the oil that is being purchased from the U.S. you see real economic benefit. The American people are going to be like, okay, this has actually been good for us. Obviously, there are a ton of ways that it can go wrong, and I'm not saying that it's definitely going to go right, but this, in conjunction with what this will do to our position or for our position regarding China, is a big deal and it'll pay dividends for the American people in the long term. And if the American people see that, then they're going to be like, okay, well, this is actually a good move. It's positioned us better. We're not as concerned with an imminent dollar crash because we've propped up the petrodollar and stuff. So it could result in. And again, I'm not saying it will. I'm saying that it could result in very, very positive things for the American people.

[Tim Pool]

What we need to do, obviously, is to build a flying city that can carry all of our armaments and troops that goes over any of our enemies and destroys them. To prevent any opportunity, we'll do a domestic one.

[Ian Crossland]

It'll be Amazon drone delivery blimp first, and then we'll weaponize it up there.

[Tim Pool]

If anybody knows what reference I'm making, you win the prize.

[Phil Carter]

Correct.

[Tim Pool]

There's only one. There's only one consistent video game reference I make on the show all the time.

[Phil Carter]

Oh, you're talking about video game. I was thinking of the big carriers that video game reference that are in. In Marvel.

[Tim Pool]

I'll give you a hint. Would you kindly.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, oh, Bioshock I didn't get to that.

[Tim Pool]

Which is. That's only a half answer.

[Phil Carter]

Bioshocks only have BioShock 1.

[Tim Pool]

Incorrect.

[Phil Carter]

It's 2.

[Tim Pool]

Incorrect.

[Phil Carter]

Really? How many Bioshocks were there?

[Tim Pool]

There are many.

[Seth Keshel]

5.

[Tim Pool]

Or BioShock Infinite, where a city is. America builds a flying city which goes over China and puts down the Boxer Rebellion.

[Seth Keshel]

Hmm.

[Tim Pool]

Guys, learn your video game lore. Come on.

[Ian Crossland]

I am so down to.

[Tim Pool]

I was shocked. One was so good.

[Phil Carter]

Awesome.

[Tim Pool]

So infinite's okay? Like, it's fine. Booker, catch. But BioShock 1, just epic.

[Ian Crossland]

It needs to be so power. The flying city is like shooting a mountain with a rocket. Like, it just has that little impact on the flying city. Otherwise, it's coming down.

[Tim Pool]

I think BioShock1 should be mandatory high school curriculum.

[Phil Carter]

Yeah, I mean, it's pro capitalism.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe the Foo Fighters, too.

[Tim Pool]

Well, actually, I think it's kind of anti capitalism.

[Phil Carter]

The whole point was that they. They were doing what, The Atlas Shrugged thing. They were like, the people were leaving.

[Tim Pool]

The story of Bioshock is that wealthy people built a city underwater to escape a repressive government and taxes, and then started. Started. Capitalism was so rampant that genetic engineering became commonplace, which resulted in people going psychotic as they became splicers without regulations or checks. The genetic engineering made everyone go insane. And civilization collapses. And you go there and everything's falling apart. It was very anti capitalism.

[Phil Carter]

All right, fair enough.

[Tim Pool]

It's just still a great story and it's fun and I recommend it. And also, when you, like, you don't have to kill all the little girls and drain the. What you call it from them. It's been so long as I played

[Phil Carter]

it, I don't know, whatever it was.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know what the essence is

[Tim Pool]

called Adam or something.

[Phil Carter]

I think it might is.

[Tim Pool]

That is Eve.

[Phil Carter]

Maybe it was. I don't remember.

[Ian Crossland]

I've only played it for like 10 minutes.

[Tim Pool]

For me, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

At max difficult.

[Tim Pool]

I played the game like four times, and I would, like, run circles around Atlas. And the final boss is literally Atlas. It's hilarious. Oh, so good. You get that. You get this. You get the. What's it called? It's been so long as I played it into your arm.

[Phil Carter]

And then fire drain Adam from the little sister.

[Tim Pool]

Adam. That's right.

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You suck Adam away. Yeah. And then it makes you stronger, but only a little bit. You know, you get like a bad ending for killing them all. And plasmids. That's what it was. And then in infinite, they're like, no, no, we don't want to do injections in the arm anymore. So we're gonna make it a soda pop. And you get a bottle and crack it and drink it. And I was like, boring gay. You think boring.

[Ian Crossland]

A flying catch, a flying mothership makes a lot of sense for the. Modern Warfare.

[Tim Pool]

The. The helicarrier from Avengers.

[Phil Carter]

That's what I thought you were talking about.

[Tim Pool]

You launch three of them and then you shoot everybody who deviates via algorithm. That was Winter Soldier. All right, let's read this question for the panel. Ian. If no fault marriage is a good thing, then what is the point of marriage? No fault marriage has destroyed society, created single parent households that ultimately contribute to the downfall of western society. Brett and I have only been married almost seven months, but I could honestly say I am a better person because of it. And he would say the same from Olivia.

[Ian Crossland]

The point of marriage, like no fault divorce marriage, is that while you're married, you can still do all the married things. Like share money. Primarily share money.

[Phil Carter]

I'm not sure why no fault divorce has anything to do with that.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, whether or not.

[Tim Pool]

Why don't you just start an LLC to hold your revenue and you get to do the same thing?

[Ian Crossland]

What's that?

[Tim Pool]

You could just start an llc, do the same thing.

[Phil Carter]

Hey, there's.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think it's the same. I'd have to look at the contracts and see the difference.

[Tim Pool]

The LLC holds the revenue and both individuals are allowed to spend money. As to the benefit of the LLC is breaking. More trust.

[Ian Crossland]

For the record, I don't like breaking news.

[Phil Carter]

Tiger was got into another car crash.

[Tim Pool]

About time I've been waiting.

[Phil Carter]

Rollover car crash in Jupiter, Florida.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't like no fault divorce, but even some of the most conservative people I've talked to about it are like, you have to let women escape abusive relationships because they could.

[Tim Pool]

That's not what we said. That's not no fault divorce, Ian. That's not no fault divorce. Part of the value, incorrect fault divorces

[Ian Crossland]

that you can leave.

[Tim Pool]

Incorrect marriage was always allowed to be dissolved pre no fault divorce. If there was abuse, if you could prove it and still today you have to prove. What do you mean?

[Ian Crossland]

Did you hear what I said, though?

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

Back in the day, women couldn't prove it.

[Tim Pool]

You still have to prove it today, Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

You can just divorce today.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but you can't get access to anything you own unless you can prove it. You need to prove fault. If you want to take resources.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, but I'm not talking about taking resources.

[Tim Pool]

And why get Married. If you don't want the resources.

[Ian Crossland]

That was your point, to be with someone you love.

[Tim Pool]

You could just do that.

[Ian Crossland]

But I'm talking about people leaving a violent relationship that they can't prove is violent.

[Tim Pool]

Then you don't get resources. So what was the point? Your point was getting married allows you

[Ian Crossland]

to share money and you do while you're married. And then the guy starts beating you, you leave.

[Tim Pool]

And you. If you can't prove it, maybe you

[Ian Crossland]

don't get the money.

[Seth Keshel]

Well, you get your life.

[Tim Pool]

So you could always. What are you talking? Like you could always do that if

[Ian Crossland]

you're stuck in a marriage with an abusive husband.

[Tim Pool]

No, you could still leave even if you're married.

[Ian Crossland]

If you can't prove it it you,

[Tim Pool]

you bro, no one is obligating married couple to live in the same house. You could leave.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm saying if there's a.

[Tim Pool]

You have to prove fault, but you still do.

[Ian Crossland]

You're saying in no fault divorce, you

[Tim Pool]

still have to prove fault to get the money that.

[Ian Crossland]

You're not talking about getting the money. I'm talking about ending the relationship.

[Tim Pool]

The question I have is what was the point of getting married?

[Ian Crossland]

To split resources.

[Tim Pool]

And you can't split those resources unless you can prove abuse.

[Ian Crossland]

You can't split those resources if you're getting the kicked out of you either.

[Tim Pool]

If you can't prove a crime him, you're always required to prove a crime for standing, for not talking about charging the other crime.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm talking about ending a marriage.

[Tim Pool]

I'm talking about getting rights to what is yours. So your what I'm talking about, your argument is change the goalpost. Better off that women leave destitute if they can't prove it. And I'm like, then nothing has changed.

[Ian Crossland]

It's better for a woman to escape with her life than to get stuck in a violent abusive relationship that kills.

[Tim Pool]

I got to pause you.

[Ian Crossland]

In my opinion, before no fault divorce,

[Tim Pool]

women could still leave and go somewhere else to avoid being beaten.

[Ian Crossland]

But they had to prove it.

[Tim Pool]

No, they didn't.

[Ian Crossland]

Then how did they leave?

[Tim Pool]

They got on their feet and walked somewhere.

[Ian Crossland]

Then they're like breaking the law. No, no, they're not. And bring them home.

[Tim Pool]

No, they can't. That didn't exist. What are you talking about?

[Ian Crossland]

A woman. You're saying a man's wife could just disappear legally?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, she could.

[Ian Crossland]

With no.

[Phil Carter]

Yes, she's getting beaten.

[Tim Pool]

The only issue was she couldn't get access to resources unless she could prove it. Which is the same today. The issue with no fault divorce is that marriages have become dated.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think she could even file for divorce before unless she had proof for a reason.

[Tim Pool]

You would go to court and you and, and you would say, here's why I want to do this. And this is still true. True today to a certain extent. But you don't need fault. You can say irreconcilable differences. So what they added is irreconcilable differences. And with that you can get married. And then a year later the one could be like, now I get half your stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

I know, it's awful.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed.

[Ian Crossland]

Even a prenups not set in stone.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. So no fault divorce is a huge problem for a variety of reasons.

[Ian Crossland]

I know that's what my argument was and usually is. But the people that are like, yo, they're women were getting like, you gotta understand what women were going through before.

[Tim Pool]

Again, this is, this is feminist propaganda bs. It's not true.

[Ian Crossland]

It's women that work with abuse.

[Tim Pool]

You always need to prove fault, today, yesterday or otherwise. And they claim women were being beaten. It's like if a woman was being beaten, she'd go to the police and that would dissolve the marriage. The issue of no fault divorce is that women can leave if they're not being beaten. That's the argument. So if your argument is women in abusive relationships should be allowed to leave. Agreed. How about then we create a circumstance by which it's easier to prove. So women have an easier time to end marriages with fault. And instead of creating a blanket, you can dissolve your marriage and take the guy's stuff. We say no to that, Right?

[Ian Crossland]

Make it easier to prove fault. That'd be interesting. I mean we do have cell phone cameras. Like if your guy's abuse, logically abusing.

[Tim Pool]

So then we don't need no fault divorce anymore because we have cell phone cameras. We have forensic studies. You can go and get a medical exam and prove it.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, there's also psychological abuse. Yeah, but if you can record it and prove it in a court, what

[Tim Pool]

is psychological abuse like?

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, I think it's kind of self evident.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, but what like explain make

[Ian Crossland]

her cry every night, make her think she's less than human, make her feel it. Of all the problems in your life,

[Tim Pool]

what is that illegal?

[Ian Crossland]

No, it's abusive though.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, well once again, legal and it

[Ian Crossland]

should be grounds for terminating.

[Tim Pool]

I completely disagree. Agree.

[Ian Crossland]

Psychological abuse, that's something. If you're with a psychopath that psychologically abuse you, you shouldn't be able to divorce.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I Guess there's a gradient there. Because again, I asked you to define it and you. You said.

[Ian Crossland]

I gave you three.

[Tim Pool]

Insulting you. And I said no to that.

[Ian Crossland]

I didn't say insulting you.

[Tim Pool]

Like, constantly telling you you're not worth it. Yeah, it's like insulting you.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Making you feel less than human.

[Tim Pool]

Well, how you feel is not anyone else's fault, but your own.

[Ian Crossland]

Right. Except when the fist hits, like, oh, yeah, it's a fist.

[Tim Pool]

Now we're talking physical.

[Ian Crossland]

Everything you're feeling is because of you. I do agree with that at one level. But if someone's standing five feet away from you, screaming at you, you might. No, no, that's something.

[Tim Pool]

And say psychological abuse, that's assault.

[Ian Crossland]

Or if they're leaving you notes or whatever.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, just throw them away.

[Ian Crossland]

Just ignore your husband. Like, don't. Come on, Tim.

[Phil Carter]

Come on, bro.

[Tim Pool]

No, no.

[Ian Crossland]

If you're arguing. Exactly, man.

[Tim Pool]

We're arguing that if you enter into a death contract, you can't break it without cause. And someone being mean is not cause. Screaming in someone's face is actually assault and potentially battery. Now you're talking about physical abuse. But if someone let go of the

[Ian Crossland]

screaming aspect of it.

[Tim Pool]

Just horrible. I said no.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, well, horrible things to someone over

[Tim Pool]

and over and over. Too bad.

[Ian Crossland]

That would be horrible.

[Tim Pool]

That's too bad. You do not get to take.

[Ian Crossland]

No one's gonna follow you to that psycho future, dude.

[Tim Pool]

You do not get to take someone's money, half their income, because they're mean. Sorry.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm open to fixing that part of the no fault. That's the worst part of no fault divorce is that a guy can get married a week later. She can leave with half. Half visa.

[Tim Pool]

Not a week. The judge wouldn't allow it, usually.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, then, whatever.

[Seth Keshel]

So.

[Tim Pool]

But like six months to a year sometimes.

[Ian Crossland]

It's nuts.

[Tim Pool]

And so that's why they have annulments which void the marriage, citing it as just not real. So the issue is, someone says, he was mean to me, I should get his stuff and we should get a divorce. Like, no, sorry. I think the issue is these problems arise because of no fault divorce. It used to be very serious. If you're getting married, you better damn well mean it. And then they said, no, no, no, don't worry. If you get married, you can look, leave now. Marriage is dating. Anyway, my friends, we are about overtime. This was a lot of fun. It's been great having you, man. Appreciate it.

[Seth Keshel]

No, I definitely appreciate it. Sitting here with you guys and being able to talk about everything. That's going on in the world today.

[Tim Pool]

I appreciate the. The constant debate. Ian, always have a good time.

[Ian Crossland]

You too, man.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody afterwards, like, man. Tim and Ian don't like. We get along so well. We're having fun.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. I like you more after we do. I mean, it hurts sometimes, but like, so does working out.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, the point of it is to have a thought provoking and entertaining conversation. So, my friend, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you've met in your life. You can follow me on X and Instagram. Timcast. Good sir, would you like to shut anything out before we go?

[Seth Keshel]

Yeah. Well, look, everybody, you have a. Have a role to play in shaping the conversations in the world we live in. I've been fighting the fight for election integrity. Obviously it's a. It's an important thing for me to stay involved as well. So thank you for having me on. You can follow me at captain k.us or check out my new book, the American War on Election Corruption. So thank you very much.

[Tim Pool]

I want to get people over like the. I like what you did with the election there.

[Seth Keshel]

Oh, it's a.

[Tim Pool]

It's a.

[Seth Keshel]

It's a number one bestseller in three Amazon categories and we call that the F Curve. The Miraculous changing of the guard on November 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 of 2020.

[Ian Crossland]

That was a good day. Hey, I'm at Ian Crossland. Follow me at Ian Crossland on the Internet. And I don't have anything to jam out right now except go to Graphene Movie and sign up for the. On the waiting list to get the movie. To get access to the movie when it goes live. It's a documentary I made down in Rice University. Carter Banks.

[Carter Banks]

Dude, I can't wait to see it when it comes out. I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and our label, Rash house Records on YouTube. Thank you for coming out, man. It's been a pleasure talking to you, Phil.

[Phil Carter]

I am Phil. That Remains on Twix. You can check out a new piece that I wrote on my Patreon. It's about Spruce Pine, the little town where all of the silicone that goes into all of the chips that we use every day, the Crucibles, all that stuff is made. It's basically the only place in the world that has quartz this pure. You can check it out at Fill It Remains on Patreon. The band is all that remains. We're going on tour this spring with Dead Eyes and Born of Osiris. We start April 29th in Albany. You can get tickets at allthatremainsonline.com youm can check out all that Remains Music at Apple Music, Amazon music music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

All right everybody, thanks for hanging out. It's been a great week. We're back, of course next week and we're working on a lot of interesting things. We're actually working on setting up digital guests because there are a lot of higher profile people. Like the west coast for instance, they don't like traveling, so we got a bunch of stuff in the works and it's all possible thanks to you. So join our discord [e-mail] don't miss it. Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all next time.

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