
Tim, Seamus, Tate, & Shane are joined by Brick Suit to discuss SNAP & food stamps to end November 1st, fears ending food stamps will cause mass food riots, Amazon to replace 500k jobs with robots, and Gavin Newsom accusing Trump of rigging the ...
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My friends, what do you think would Happen if come November 1, SNAP benefits, food stamps run dry and no one receives any money? Speculation right now is that it would lead to food riots. Videos are popping up of people claiming they will begin looting stores instantly. One woman says, they're not going to loot stores. They're going to wait outside for you with your groceries and they're going to steal your entire cart of groceries. The Trump administration is warning right now that by November 1st there will be no SNAP benefits. And right now, if you type in the phrase this is not a joke, is they into Google? The first recommended search term is quote, is they cutting food stamps? End quote. I am not joking. I'm not trying to insult or be derisive. This is a fact. And there are concerns now that this could lead to food riots. 42 million people. Some are speculating that from this, Trump will invoke the Insurrection act and move in and take control of certain jurisdictions. I don't know for sure, but let me just tell you, 42 million people don't get food stamps. Big box stores are gonna lose billions of dollars. It is going to be an economic and political nuclear detonation. So for those that say nothing ever happens, they may still be right. Because I cannot fathom a reality where the Trump administration could allow such a thing to happen. I mean, the political blowback, the economic implosion, it's not just going to affect people who receive welfare. We have created a whole sector of our economy predicated upon taking tax money from one group, sending it to another, so that they can then buy from these stores. And the money loops Back around. What happens when 42 million people stop buying food all at once? It's going to be very, very interesting. Now, on top of that, we're hearing that traffic, air traffic controllers, they're about to miss a full paycheck. And there's already concern with the government shutdown, where this goes. So I don't know, maybe. Maybe it gets that bad. On top of all of the weird economic stuff, some guy got arrested for putting a bounty out on Pam Bondi. There's a guy who attacked a TPUSA person with a hockey stick. And things are generally just still crazy. But let me tell you, this government shutdown, food stamp, snap benefit thing, oh, boy, this is gonna be big. We'll get to that in and more. Before we get started, my friends, we got some great sponsors for you. We got Cove Pure, man. My friends, Cove Pure. Do you trust the government to make the best choice for your health? Some of you probably do. I don't think you and I do. Same government that shut down the country during COVID Nah. When it comes to my family's health, I make my own decisions. Over 70% of Americans are served by water systems that have fluoride added to the supply. Yes, fluoride. You know, that stuff in toothpaste which you spit out in the sink. Tell us again why the government wants people drinking this stuff. 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And again, I think these are going to sell it instantly. We already sold like nine, I think, and they're going to be gone right away. We wanted to make gold collectors edition boards. And so this is how we're doing it. There's going to be an additional gold of each that are not for sale, will never be sold. That we are going to have Here mounted at the boonies. It will not have a serialization number but an infinity symbol. So it's not part of that. One out of five. It's a special production model. But full disclosure for those. We want to make sure everything's transparent. So go to boonies hq.com go to the store. Get your boards now because once they're gone, they're gone. Like step on snack and find out $40 right now when we run out of these, they're gone for good. We are however, I just want to make sure this is clear. 4 stop on snack going to have a, a similar graphic later in the future that we're planning. So I just want to make sure we're being as transparent as we can with it. Don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We've got the the Brick suit.
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All right, thanks for joining us, Mr. Wall. Shane's here.
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What's up? I am Shane Cashman, host of Inverter World Live. Tonight, I will be going live at 10 o' clock on Rumble and YouTube to talk about an open letter signed by 700 scientists and faith leaders saying that we are running out of time when it comes to super intelligent AI and that we need to figure out a way to stop it from crushing humanity. It reminds me a lot of the Great Barrington Declaration that happened before the lockdowns. So we talked about that.
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You see that chart that showed AI content by year?
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No.
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And how it's 99.9% human. And then it's like as time goes on, it gets to around like 2021 and it jumps up and now we're at 5050.
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Yeah, I know. A lot of articles are more. Yeah over there. We're there. So we'll see you.
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What is going on, everyone? Tate Brown here, holding it down. I'm glad you're here because I am also a border enthusiast. I'm a deportation enthusiast. ICE love it all. So we'll get into it.
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Twisted plants. All right, let's talk about the news, ladies and gentlemen. We've got. This is one of the most. This is one of the biggest stories in the history of our country. This is one of the biggest stories of our generation. Trump admin warns 42 million Americans could lose food stamps as shutdown drags on. The USDA is warning that SNAP funds will run dry starting November 1st. And my reaction? I don't care. Okay. Anyway, you get the point. Now, I know there are a lot of people that do rely on this, so I'm only half kidding when I say I don't care. I love it. The Trump administration is warning millions of Americans could lose it on federal food benefits within days if Democrats do not accept. Republicans plan to end the government shutdown. The USDA said does not have the ability to independently reshuffle funds into the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps. According to a recent memo obtained by Fox News Digital due to congressional Democrats refusal to pass a clean continuing resolution, approximately 42 million individuals will not receive their SNAP benefits come November 1st. This jeopardizes all SNAP recipients in November, including those that have applied for benefits in the last half of October and furloughed federal employees who will not receive their combined October November benefits. And this is not a joke, my friends. If you go to google.com and type in the words is they. The first that pops up is quote, is they cutting food stamps. That a brick, brick wall. Mr. Brick, Brick man or whatever showed me that brick suit, Mr. Brick Suit Man. He, he showed me just before the show. He's like, look, this is legit. And I pulled it up and it really is. And I, I guys, as part of me wants it to happen because for too long, too many people in this country have just suckled off the gut the teat of Uncle Sam. However, I do understand there are real Americans that desperately rely on this for legitimate reasons. So it's a rock and a hard place. I can't imagine Trump or anyone allows this to happen. Because if 42 million people can't buy food all around the exact same time, you are going to see the margins of every major box store and grocery store drop significantly. It may only be a couple points, percentage points, but enough that these stores have, have stocked their shelves to compensate for welfare purchasers. If those people stop showing up, there will be a certain degree of waste and excess. These, these supermarkets will lose money. They will order less. They will say, okay, we gotta throw this out. No matter what happens, there will be a surplus in the immediate. So they'll order less. The manufacturers, the distributors are gonna start shipping less. It is going to be a snapback tsunami in the economy across the board. Everywhere. They, I don't know how they let this happen.
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And profit margins in the grocery sector are just flat, phenomenally low. People. Yeah, I mean it's just like it's an incredibly low margin business because they can plan it that way because you basically know people need to eat. They're going to buy this. It's going to be cyclical patterns of like, you know, food. Different food categories may happen at different times of the year. But you've got to keep buying food. You got to.
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The staples and any interruption of that is going to just trickle back up and it's going to be hard to get that engine started again. It's not like, it's not like you can just stop the food economy on a dime and then two weeks later ramp up the production again.
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When egg prices were crazy high at the end of last year, people were stealing storage containers or giant shipping containers of eggs out of Pennsylvania.
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Well. Oh yeah, sorry, go ahead.
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I was just say so. I just think hunger and desperation is going to lead to violence, rioting. It's not going to be pretty.
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Yeah, I mean, you mentioned grocery stores have low profit margins. It's true. They're razor thin. It's something like $0.03 of every dollar spent at the grocery store is actual profit for the company. They're very, very low margins. As you mentioned, they rely on the fact that people need to eat food. This is part of why government run grocery stores don't work because no bureaucrat is competent or concerned enough to account waste. But that 3% is what allows for the grocery store to be possible. And so you're right, the price dynamic has been distorted over the past several decades by food stamps essentially, and some people really do need them. But the important thing to remember is that a price is not just an incentive, it's information. It tells you what you should stock your store with. It tells you what people are reliably gonna buy. We don't know how much of what's currently purchased is only purchased because of ebt. So it's really difficult for these stores to do any kind of economic calculation without that.
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I want it. Sorry. I mean, well, look, look, look, I understand. Easy for me to say. I'm not going to go hungry, my family's not going to go wanting. And so that's where I'm torn on this because there are, there are real people out there that get these benefits because they need them. Real hardworking families that are struggling to make ends meet, maybe through no fault of their own. And this was the program was supposed to do. The problem is the program itself has become a cancer on our economic system. And there are too many people who intentionally manipulate the system for free money. And out of the good, hardworking American's pocket. And so the issue is in all things, cutting yourself off from the addiction is gonna suck, it's gonna hurt, and there's nothing you can do to stop it. But continuing the improper medication or the addicting drug is only going to make it worse.
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Yeah, well, yeah, beyond that, like 142 million, that means 1 in 8Americans is on SNAP benefits. That's ridiculous. Beyond that. This is the problem with welfare, broadly speaking, is that it's, it's a feedback jammer because it's like the signs that a society sends to itself, like these normal signs that a society uses to correct itself get jammed with welfare and you're not able to actually address these issues.
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So, you know, I'm curious, Seamus, do you think that for a lot of people that rely on benefits, they could turn to their churches?
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It's a difficult question. I mean, I would hope so. It depends on the church and it depends on the area. I know that a number of food pantries have closed. I know that there was one at least that closed in 2020 near where I lived at the time. And the issue here with all of this is there are some number of people who really do need the assistance. I mean, I don't think anyone is denying that there's some number of people who really do need food stamps. They're not gonna be able to survive, they're not gonna be able to pay for themselves. But in part it's because the infrastructure has been built up. Like Tim asked the question, would churches be able to feed them? Well, I don't know how prepared churches are relative to how prepared they need to be. Because this of food stamps has existed for so long. And I'm just, I'm gonna say it.
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I've no way that they could be ready. Not.
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They can't be ready, not for this number of people. No, no, no. But in terms of people who like really genuinely need it. Again, I've known a number of people who were receiving welfare benefits through the course of my life. Some people were people, I was like, this person 100% needs it. They have a disability, they're seriously poor. There's no way they're gonna be able to provide for themselves. I've also known people who, it's like, you didn't need it, like this guy didn't need it. So I ultimately, I think it's really important for our government to be more discerning about who gets it. Shutting the spigot off all at once, as everyone here's mentioned, can cause some serious problems. But something does have to happen.
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I feel bad for the single parent households.
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Yeah.
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That don't abuse it. But obviously this is a generational problem that abuse it.
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They shouldn't exist.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not saying that single parents, you know, in some extreme fashion should be taken from their, like their kids or whatever. I'm saying our society should not have created a mechanism by which single parent households can be easily. I don't want to say attained. That's not the right word. But like viable, where it's viable to break a marriage. Exactly. It needed to be that. It was, it was an impossibility. No fault. Divorce has been a big problem. The welfare system, it has made it so that there are circumstances where instead of people getting married and having functioning families where they have their kids and they're watching their kids, they say, you know what? I'm unhappy. So instead of making it work for what is right, I'm going to use the court system, break it apart, and then get on welfare benefits for my kids.
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I'm talking about widows mostly. But like, I think the government has incentivized this situation with single parents. So like they've married these people to the government and now they need this unrung.
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I'm sorry, I got to read this. Ready to rumble. Super chat. He said cutting food stamps right before Christmas and Thanksgiving. Yeah, if this, that's why I'm like, dude, it's not going to happen. They've got, they're going to intervene somehow.
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They've got a little bit of wiggle room in there. I'm not sure if it's. This is true in every state, but some states, like, they don't all roll out all the benefits on the first. So it's like on the first, if your card ends in a one, your benefits load up. On the second, if it ends in a two, it loads up. So there, there could be a little bit of, of some wiggle room in there. They don't have to do it all by the first, but if it goes any significant amount of time, it's just, it's not going to be good at all.
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And we saw with the, with the military paychecks that the private individuals are willing to foot the bill. And I mean, if it's true, like a lot, I mean it is true. Like a lot of these grocery stores run razor thin margins. You have to think the execs at Kroger, the execs at Walmart are having conversations right now of like, all right, how much money do we need to chuck at this to keep it going for another two weeks. Because, yeah, the government, like you were saying, has distributed the cost of dysfunction onto the productive class. That's why we're having these conversations like, are these churches ready? Or, you know, the Salvation army ready.
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It's like, well, that's the way it used to be.
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Yeah, but can I throw some out there? Well, this is another really important part of this dynamic, which is the way the food stamp program works in this country is that you're able to go buy the kinds of foods that everyone else is able to buy. I know RFK added some stipulations which I think are good. Yeah, I totally support it. But when we talk about, like, our church is going to be able to feed these people now, in the best case scenario, you could say maybe what's able to happen is these churches are able to get inexpensive foods like rice and beans, etc. And feed people who are genuinely starving. But the idea that the churches could ever be capable of supplying, you know, 10% of the country with all of the highly processed, more expensive foods that people have been consuming on food stamps, that's almost certainly impossible.
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There's so many people right to rumble. Said Tim will cut your food stamps right before Christmas and thinks he's the good guy. Lol. Wow. Yep, I am. And what I find in these liberals is they're short term thinkers, they don't plan ahead, they don't plan for winter. And these systems that have been built by these people have been gutting and destroying this country. And now we're at the rock and the hard place position where maybe, maybe we need to do it now to avoid a long fall later. I don't like the idea that people get this ripped out from underneath them, a rug pull at the last minute. But the idea that we have so many government systems that have been exploited and abused for decades from people who know they're exploiting and abusing the system, it's unsustainable. Every single day. The socialists say we deserve more of what you work for. At some point. You can't take from someone who has nothing left. At a certain point you take too much and people stop working. This system's unsustainable. Zoran Mamdani is in New York saying, and I love this, we're going to make the buses free and we're gonna make the buses faster. And I got a question for you guys. Why are the buses slow in New York? Does anybody know?
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Oh yeah, because they're, well, they're weapons of mass destruction and there's too many cars and people.
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So, okay, so hold on. He said. He said the buses. We have the slowest buses in the country. So that kind of implies it's not an issue of traffic. Right, right. Because traffic for traffic. He's saying, the buses are slow. Why aren't they going faster?
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I. I have.
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Could it be some kind of. Perhaps there's a limit on the bus.
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Of some sort because of science, but there.
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Could there be a limit, like on the speed of the bus relative to all vehicles in the city? Anyone out there, 25 miles an hour.
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Driven in New York City, you know, the buses don't go slow. I mean, you have to watch out for the buses. They're crazy.
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It's the insane things these people say that mean nothing and make no sense. Buses can go 60 miles an hour. The reason why they don't in New York is because the speed limit is 25. So he's like, we're going to make the buses faster. And everyone cheers. And he may as well say, red bullet gives you wings.
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What I think he means.
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Meaningless statement.
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What I think he means is he's going to try to limit cars more in the city to free up. To free up space.
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I think what we're seeing here is, you know, he did an interview and he goes, yes, I'm going to tax people more. He's like, because we deserve these programs. It will never stop. It will never stop. And when you do this, what happens is less and less people will work to put into a system and they will seek to extract from it until eventually the people who produce the system say, I'm done and I'm leaving.
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Oh, yeah, anybody. Anybody who can get out is going to want to get out. And I'm sure there are people who've already left because they're looking at it like, if it doesn't happen this time, it's going to happen at some time. So there's always, you know, there's always a prime window for you to get out and maximize your gains. Everybody's trying to sell at once. That's going to be bad.
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About 1 million people left New York City in the 70s when they were trying to climb out of bankruptcy and taxing everyone into oblivion. It'll happen again.
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Let's jump to this tweet. We got this from American Papa Bear. Here's some food for thought. When EBT recipients no longer have free government money coming in as of November 1st, rather than them stealing from the store directly Someone thinks they're going to be waiting, waiting in the parking lot to steal from you as you go to your car. All I can say is try that in a small town, stay strapped and stay vigilant. Out there, patriots, listen to this. This woman makes actually a pretty good point. And people are gonna start. I'm telling you, this is gonna be a thing people are gonna start.
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Instead of stealing groceries from the stores, they're gonna start watching people go to their cars and they're gonna take.
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She's right. All of their groceries and you know.
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What store gonna do. Not our problem. Not our business.
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And they're correct. It's outside the store, not what's on their property. Yeah, it's not our property if it's their parking lot.
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91 1, call the authorities, make a report.
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They gonna leave your ass for dead. And people are really gonna. I'm just gonna what? Why am I supposed to call the supermarket for help when someone's robbing me? Well, wait, wait.
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So.
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So a man's pointing a gun shop and save.
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Help.
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What?
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Oh, man.
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Let me play more. So people, carts of groceries out of the grocery parking lot.
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I'm telling you.
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So I actually agree with her. And then we have this from just Loki says food stamps run out. Riots, insurrection act. It can't be that easy. And they got this tweet says we are. We are out of band aids and duct tape. Democrats, stop this madness. And then he has this post where he says looming food riots, a communist insurgency in New York City, and patriotic WASP industrialists supporting the federal imposition of law and order. I can autism spiral about that for a while. This must be what 1905 felt like. I'm just going to say this. If 42 million people can't buy food all at the same time. It's not that our concern is everyone's insane. It's that a tiny percentage of this one, let's say 1% of this cohort, 1,420,000 people, start smashing up grocery stores and stealing stuff, robbing people in the parking lots. It's gonna get absolutely insane. So I said it before, I'll say it again. I cannot imagine a scenario where the Trump admin or even the Democrats allow this to happen. But here's the thing. If Trump is truly playing a game of chicken, saying Democrats can vote yes on our budget whenever they want, I don't see Trump backing down. Will Democrats.
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Well, it's bad news for the elderly because they depended on being Walmart greeters for all these years. But they're about to replace them with, like, Navy SEALs. It'd be like, ma Max.
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And the was going to be robots.
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But now it's bringing out my, you know, bro, Oreo cereal. I'm just getting jumped every time. It's like, yo, can we get a greeter over here?
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It's going to be a Navy SEAL strapped next to a robot dog with a rifle on top. And he's gonna say, greetings.
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Yeah, he's gonna check your receipt and then just sprint out.
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Dog's gonna follow you, you know, you see. You see that viral video from Burlington where they stop you at the front door and take a picture of your body?
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Wow.
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You haven't seen this video?
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No.
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Oh, bro, I gotta pull this up for you guys. Well, let me see if I can find out where this one is. I asked the crew to pull it up for me.
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I wouldn't be surprised if violence does start popping off places. You might see some stores and some companies decide it's not worth it to open up, and then you got a whole nother thing. I was like, why are you going to open up your doors for business if you're going to expose your employees and actually your entire store to those type of losses? They might just decide to keep the doors closed.
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Well, yeah, this happens. Grocery stores go. There's a lot of crime in this area. Stuff gets stolen off, and we're not going to be able to grow grocery.
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We're not going to open a new location here. And then lefties go. These are food deserts. It's like, all right, well, if you don't want food deserts, you need law and order, right?
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David Dorn was asked to defend his friend's place from riots, and look what happened to David Dorn. I mean, this is. I worry about that being the next step if it goes like this.
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And that was televisions, right? That was electronics.
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It's like a pawn shop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So, I mean, that was not staples, right? Like, this is like, this is going to be a whole nother class of things. You know, this is going to be a whole. Look, you know, I would say this 40 million cohort of Americans, they're not preppers.
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Yeah.
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They don't have tubs of dehydrated food.
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Right.
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They're not ready for this. You know, they're not in the private.
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Have an option and it's not hyperbole. Like we have a great example in South Africa. Like I was there recently and you go to the grocery store and the private sector does address these things. There is like, you know, stop gaps in place. But what it is is there's dudes like locked and loaded standing outside of the grocery store to like maintain law and order. And it's like, do we really want that in the United States? I mean that's in South Africa. Like do we really have to deal with that here? And it's like, well, it could very well.
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I just, I do feel terrible for the people that are living paycheck to paycheck, not abusing the system. And like Seamus was saying, I wish there was a way to discern to get rid of these people on the program who are abusing it and have been abusing it for years.
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Yeah, it's. And just at every level. That's what I said earlier. It's just the government has distributed the cost of dysfunction onto the productive class and they're not, they're not drilling down on the issue. I mean like Tim mentioned it like, you know, fertility is being decoupled from, from productivity. Like that's going to accelerate every bad sort of dysgenic drift that we're seeing.
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Take a look at this video, then let them take a picture before you can enter into burn. Look at this. If you walk out a different coat. I know, I think, I think you're being tracked the whole way when you walk through these stores. You guys have seen what the Amazon stores are doing where they've got 70 cameras in a tiny little 400 square foot space filming you in every possible direction and then one day they show up at your house, you get arrested. Well, it's crazy.
B
We have all the technological infrastructure that we were able to build up from having a relatively productive high trust society at one point. And even as societies become lower and lower trust, the snowball effect of that technological development has continued. But now we have a low trust society. So all of these very high tech tools that are great when you're in a society where people don't need to watch each other all the time because they're trying to rob and screw each other over are going to be able to be, they exist and they're Going to be put to use again. Spying on everyone all the time.
F
They will be deployed. Yeah, they already are.
B
Yeah.
F
To a worse degree.
E
Are they going to rename the Patriot act the Grocery Act?
C
Because it's the little things that compound that just. You don't notice when it's rolled out, but it just makes your life worse when it compounds. Like, yeah, go to a Walgreens. You got to like wait for some employee to get deodorant. Like I was at Walmart recently with the. And that you get. I carry my. Got my basket. Look down, there's a security tag on the basket. I'm like, this is like probably a two, three dollar basket.
B
Yeah.
C
Like what is going on? And it's like the country just like sucks now, but. And it all just compounds and then your life just gets worse and worse and you don't even notice it getting worse.
B
Well, this is so.
D
So let me ask you guys just, you know, how many of you want the benefits to just run dry instantly on November 7, November 1?
F
I don't.
D
You don't?
F
I want them to be stripped down from people who abuse it. But I do feel bad for the families.
D
I know there's no way to do it.
F
No way.
D
So. So considering there's no way just to figure out who's abusing and who isn't, you're still okay with keeping it?
F
It's a hard one, dude. I think of all these people who live paycheck to paycheck and people are suffering really bad.
D
You think? Keep it Brick suit.
E
Not having it run out cold turkey is just not. Not a good situation. So if the government can find some way to fund it, creative financing, you know, it's going to be cheaper to keep it funded than to initiate the cure if violence breaks out.
B
Which is why I'm pretty much on the same page. Which is why we have to remember this is the Democrats fault for keeping the government shut down by not making a deal.
D
So you guys think we have to keep it?
C
Well, I think like the USDA has some leverage now where they can actually start stripping off some of the excess. And it's true.
D
But just here's the question. Your option is keep it for all 42 million as normal or shut it off. What do you think?
C
No, because I trust that not keep permanently.
D
I didn't say that.
E
You got it? Yeah.
D
Got to keep just the option. The option is right now.
E
Yes.
D
It's one or the other.
C
Right.
D
If they reopen government and fund it, it's going to stay exactly as it is with all of the abuse. And if they shut it down, everybody's cut off. I'm for cut off.
C
Yeah, well, my thing is why I'll.
D
Never be in politics because I'm so. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I will never be in politics because I have no problem saying your government has created a heroin addiction for your country. It is destroying you. And I know there are good people that will be negatively impacted by this. But we cannot continue to inject ourselves with an addictive drug that is burning us to the ground.
C
Are the politics unpaid still?
B
Right.
E
In that case, I'm in. Can we.
F
Oh, they're not being paid well. Can we rob the politicians?
C
I'm kidding.
E
In that case. In that case, I'm more like in favor of methadone. Like I'm not in favor of keeping addiction. But we, we can't go cold turkey and take. The whole country just can't get off of these benefits in one fell swoop.
D
It's impossible.
B
Exactly. Completely. Like you need to do some kind of analysis. Firstly to make sure that there isn't a head of household who has a bunch of illegals living with them. So the welfare is basically going to illegal immigrants. Like stuff like that has to be done immediately.
D
So much worse than this. There are, there are people who have babies intentionally to expand their benefits, but you're going to start crashing and they sell these benefits, start crashing the food.
E
Producers and then those jobs are going to disappear and then that's going to be more strain on the system. So it'll just be cascading.
D
You know what?
E
I don't think, I don't think the economy is resilient enough to with. To withstand a complete and total withdrawal.
D
Of all the sides. I do not believe there is a reality where what you are asking for, which is the correct answer, is possible. The methadone situation where we say we are going to slowly start pulling back these benefits, no matter what we do, there will always be people who are deserving of it getting taken away from and people who are manipulating it getting when they don't need it.
E
Correct.
D
There will. I do not. In my lifetime, with everything I've seen, I don't see a political reality where you can stop these programs except in a way like this. Because no politician, no Republican would stand up and say, I'll take away your benefits from you. Not even Republicans can say in New York City, Curtis Sliwa, the Republican said, don't deport the illegal aliens. That's what happens. When you have these prolonged addictive systems. Because Sliwa knows if I say we gotta deport illegal immigrants, I won't get a single vote. That's what New York is right now. So we keep playing this game of we'll figure it out down the road. We'll figure it out, we never will. Where are we with Democrats? They're asking now for what? Their fourth amnesty in 30 years. And we had Brian Shapiro on the show and he says, I think it was Brian amnesty. He says we need to find a way for those that have been here for 20 years and are working to become citizens. I said again, false for the fourth time. But hold on, what's the difference? There's a guy who's been here for 20 years, he works a normal job, he's a good person, he doesn't get benefits. Why should we cut him off? Now? There's a moral argument of he's not a citizen, so there's a line for us. My argument is the same thing is true for this welfare system. It is being exploited by a lot of really bad people and the system itself is a cancer on our country. I have no problem. I'm actually very much in favor of EBT benefits, SNAP benefits and welfare for most people. But the way I've described it over and over again, imagine it like one day you got a cut on your arm, so you cleaned it off and put a band aid on it and then forgot about it a week later. It's starting to smell bad. So what do you do? You slapped another band aid right on top, starts to smell bad. What do you do? Another band aid right on top. And now someone says, yes, yes, but if you peel the band aid off, it's going to pull all the necrotic flesh and it's injuring the arm and you're like, but if you keep doing this, you will die. At some point you've got to say, I'm sorry, but the system is broken. Now look again, I understand. I'm not, I'm not in a position where I'm going to be one of these people who's cut off. I'll tell you the truth. No politicians ever going to tell you the truth. They're never going to admit to you that this is a fast track to the collapse of your society. Your children will inherit a pile of ashes. No one will ever say it. They're going to tell you, don't worry, you're special. And I'll make sure you get your free stuff every effing time I Think.
F
It'S impossible to undo by design, too. They wanted everyone on this program to make their political enemies look bad. When we were like, we should end this. When I talked earlier this year about how I was in favor of cutting sugar and soda from all this stuff, I mean, they were rioting in the comments. I mean, it's unbelievable. I think if you want to be a maha, you know, and support good health and give, you know, people who are in poverty food and drink that are going to not kill you.
E
That was the whole thing. Okay? That was the whole thing. Like, people deserve choice to buy soda. I'm like, no, no, we're giving.
F
With our money.
E
We're giving you money.
D
You can have.
E
You can have healthy food.
D
You can have tap water from your bathroom. The best, you know, the best water in the world is second place. No, no, no, no. Second place.
F
In it.
D
The second best water in the world is. Is drinking the water straight from the bathroom sink. And the first best water in the world is right from the hose outside.
C
True.
F
Everybody knows I grew up on the hose.
E
Especially in the summer where it's nice and warm.
F
We'll clip that.
D
Yeah, but that metallic T demonstrates, like.
C
How much special interest is behind Snap because it's like, like they paid off a bunch of guys that just show for soda on soda gate. Like, with their full, like, government name on there.
D
It's just.
C
It's totally insane. But, like, yeah, with the binary you presented earlier, Tim, like, I agree, like, it would be nice to go cold turkey, but I'm just so worried about getting killed. I don't put it past America's like, kill me over a loaf of bread. And then we're going to get the situation where we're sending instacart shoppers in, like, Rainbow six Siege. Like, they're in, like, scoop up the. Get it back to me. Like, it just sounds horrifying. But no, I totally agree. But yeah, like I was saying earlier too, is just. Ultimately, Snap is just a bullet or it's a band aid on a bullet hole wound. It's like, to address this rot. Yes. If they're going to withhold, if they're going to withhold Snap going forward, this needs to be in combination with a lot of different attacks on these different vectors that have completely rotted out our society. And so if we're going to do it, you got to do it right. Otherwise, yeah, we're going to be getting killed over ho hos or whatever.
D
I mean, I'm just going to. I'm going to say it again. Look, no politicians ever tell the truth because, you know, even with Donald Trump running for offices, no one's gonna touch your Medicaid and Medicare because he knows the older generation is a huge voting block and he needs their vote. And it's a numbers game. This is the problem with. You know, I was talking about this earlier. I did a video for my Tim Pool, the Tim Pool show channel. Subscribe if you haven't@YouTube.com Tim Pool and rumble.com Tim Pool and explained why women shouldn't be in politics. And that is not to say individual women or even most women. It's only there's generalities in demographics and averages. So I'm not literally, I'm kind of trying to be antagonistic when I say this. I actually have no problem with women in politics because while many people disparage women and say repeal the 19th, I don't agree with that. And when women weren't voting, we had a civil war and we had conflict in crisis. And women are voting. We have conflict in crisis. But the issue is that I brought up. But what most people don't understand is that it's not an issue of the individual ever. It's an issue of large scale demographics. So when you have the largest voting block being 70 plus, AI agents are.
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D
And they're heavily dependent on Medicare and Medicaid. If you say for the betterment of this country and the younger generation, we have to stop this, this, this scheme that funnels money from young people to old people. You will lose every election ever.
C
Yeah, well, if the only thing will never win. If the only thing keeping a demographic alive is like coerced transfer, transfer of funds from the product of class, that demographic is gone. And everything else is just an accounting fiction.
D
I. I want. Are you the only gen zer in here right now?
C
I'm a zoomer.
D
That's right. I mean, even Serge is just a young. Oh, no, wait. Yeah, you're young. Millennial, right?
A
Yeah, yeah, I'm young.
B
Millennial. I'm 30.
D
Yeah, that's right. You're just barely qualifying.
B
Barely.
C
I'm a barely. Actually boomer.
D
95 boomer the boomers trying to hide 97. So get this.
B
What year were you born?
D
Here's what's going to happen.
B
Oh one. Oh wow.
D
There's only 40 million gen alpha. The amount of wealth they're going to extract. I don't mean wealth is in your wealthy. I'm saying your access to resources. The amount of wealth they will have to extract from Gen Alpha to pay for elderly boomers and Gen X is going to buckle the system.
B
People don't realize. Well, this is something I really got to hit on because it's not necessarily a specific policy issue. It gets back to our entire understanding of how societies should run. We have moved so far away from any understanding of the principle of subsidiary in this country and all across the western world, we need to ensure that things are handled by the most. Yeah, that was my theme music for.
C
My great epic speech Vox video or something.
B
So we things should be handled by the most local possible authority. Charity, for example, should be handled. How do you figure out who's an illegal or who's a person who's really struggling or who's a person who's just sucking resources out of the system? Well, if this is handled by communities, if this is a local phenomena, much easier to sort it out. Similarly, how do we care for people in their older age? Well, once again, if the retirement plan for the average person was what it was historically, which is to say you had children or you had nieces and nephews, someone in your family had children, or you joined a convent, but you secured your own retirement for yourself in some way, our, our birth rates probably would not have decreased at the level.
E
That they've decreased at multigenerational households or.
B
A multi generational households. Exactly where your kids are taking care of and your kids. Kids. So the issue is we moved away from that and we said, well, you know, some number of old people don't have family to care for them. So now what we need is an entire system that defers the costs to everyone. But the issue with doing that is now your average individual doesn't have the same incentives to ensure they have a multi generational household where their descendants will be taking care of them. So the birth rate declines and you end up in the position we're in now where a huge subsection of the population that makes life as it currently exists possible because they were such a large part of the workforce are about to retire and they're about to take a bunch of benefits out of the system that the younger generation will literally not Be able to pay for it just won't be possible. You're gonna have an awful collapse.
E
I think part of that has to deal with the shift of the population away from small towns into big cities. And you know, there's like, if you ever drive across Kansas or you drive across Nebraska, there's something I've noticed, I do a lot of driving. You know, you, you're basically going the speed limit and then you slow down because there's a town and you come to a small town and there's a main street and there's a park and there's a grain elevator by the railroad tracks. And then five minutes later you're out of the town. And then you drive another 15 minutes and that pattern repeats itself because those, those towns are in a, you know, an optimal size for people to be farming the area around it. You've got the community, you've got a bank, you've got your barber, you've got your doctor, and then it duplicates down the road. But in your town, you can't hide, you can't be the degenerate. That's right, because social pressure keeps you in line and that's where you're going to be at. And once people go to the big city, they can disappear into the woodwork and that disappears totally.
D
Let's jump to this story from the New York Times. Amazon plans to replace more than half a million jobs with robots. I'm excited for this because the end is nigh, my friends. You seen the video of the shipyards where all of the, the, the containers are being moved around by robots?
F
Yes, I have seen that.
C
Yeah.
D
And that's what Amazon factories already are. The factories in China where there's no lights at all in them. They're just. Because the robots don't need light. They use, they have like radar and lidar and stuff. So there's no actual lights. You walk in, it's pitch black and the robots don't care. They're doing their thing. It's happening. Now, this story is crazy enough, but you combine these things, especially with the government screw ups, collapse, the loss of benefit, SNAP benefits, whatever it's going to be. Look, I'll just put it this way, you guys, we talked about the LSAT numbers. You saw the LSAT numbers going up 32,000. Whereas like last year was 18.
E
Right, which is people staying in school because they perceive the job market as.
D
Being disaster, particularly law. Yeah, because it's a fake job made up by people to argue with people.
C
Amen.
D
Whereas. But it, but it's true. I'm not trying to disparage lawyers a little bit, but when you go to school for like an engine for engineering, it's not an issue of staying in school. You're like, when I get out, I'm going to be an engineer in some capacity, some kind of engineer. When you go to law, you're basically saying nothing is working in the economy. But the one thing that's, that I can hope for is that I'll be able to argue with somebody and sue them or, well, like every place by.
B
Like, oh, bro, listen, this is not career recommendation or anything, but just as I see it, law, medicine and finance, those are the things that a layperson can't really understand and it's very intimidating for them to navigate. So I can understand why someone might see that as, you know, safe career paths, but you can't, I don't know.
E
If you can make safer going into the trades. You'd be safer just quitting school and becoming a plumber.
D
I don't know.
E
I mean, honestly, you'd be, at least in two years you could be actually doing stuff and that and those type of jobs are gonna be the last ones taken away by I, I, I.
B
Think when is the last, what if that's only 10 years from now? We don't know.
D
I don't even think it's that. Look, look, if they allow the welfare benefits to end on the 1st, we are talking about a nuclear bomb on the economy and in politics, it cannot happen. If it happens. If, okay, and I'm saying this, when they warn, maybe, you know, hey, you may not get your benefits, that's a big difference. Because if, you know, come the first Trump goes, look, we found funds, we pulled it, the government's not opening, but we're fine. Then it's like, yeah, yeah, okay, it was a threat. But if actually 42 million people do not get money and they cannot buy food, I don't know how we that is going to change the face of this nation. There are, there are two things that drive electoral systems. Usually it's the economy, but only when things are safe. Security is next. But there is another indicator of revolution and civil war, and that is when food is hard to come by. And, and with the Arab Spring, one of the key indicators of massive revolution across the Arabic world, in North Africa particularly, was that food prices had become too high. It kicked off with, I believe, what was it? Mohamed Bouazizi was his name. He was a fruit cart salesman in Tunisia.
E
That's Right.
D
And the police came and said, you can't sell fruit. And he goes, it's the only thing I can do to make money. They shut him down. So he went in front of like City hall and immolated himself. And then everybody said snapped because they were feeling the same pressures in the same heat. What's going to happen to this country when you have terrorism, a weak economy, high prices, and 42 million people who can't afford food?
B
Everything will turn out fine.
D
Trump can then call, invoke the Insurrection act and take over anything he wants.
C
Well, and you mentioned earlier the rural areas is, rural areas actually have a far rural household specifically have a far higher participation in SNAP benefits and these sorts of things. So it'll compound. You have two issues now. Compounding is, A, A, you're going to have migration of people from rural areas into the urban areas looking, because that's where the institutions are going to be that distribute food. And then B, the farms that do exist in the rural areas, their labor force gets cut out from under them because a lot of those people that are on those SNAP benefits are working on the farms and these sorts of things. So then there's going to be a shortage of labor on the farms, and then now the farms are going to have less productivity. So everything is just going to compound. The rural areas are going to completely rot out. The area is going to be pulled, the bombs going to be pulled out from it already has in a lot of ways. And then, yeah, they're going to flood into the cities and then the cities will be out of food because these farms are going to have labor shortages.
F
The one problem with that, though, is that farms are going to disappear soon because they're all becoming data centers.
D
Generated food, though, and then they're going to take all the water so the data centers can gargle them up.
F
Yes. People are already complaining about higher water bills and electricity bills because they're, they're, they're funding the data centers in the area.
D
We got our electric. So, so one of the. So at the old studio, our electricity bill has been largely just nothing because we left and then we got the bill for it. I think it was like a couple months ago. And when I saw the bill, I got really angry because I'm like, whoa, someone's pulling some bs. Somebody plugged in a bitcoin mining rig at our property? No, it's. The price of electricity is skyrocketing because of the high demand from data centers, but also probably bitcoin mining as well.
F
Just for sure.
C
I put my heat on like last week and then the electric company just sent me a loan out application. You're gonna need this.
E
We weren't smart enough to move, to move towards fourth generation nuclear and I mean we just don't have enough, don't.
C
Have enough power in New York State. They're shutting down.
E
There's one thing we haven't talked about too though is where we're saying like if, if benefits end in, in November.
D
You mean in four days?
E
In four days. Right. There will be, there will be some people who will reprioritize what finances they do have. Food will still be a priority over, over rent. Because it takes you longer to get evicted.
B
Yeah.
E
Than it does for you to starve. So if people need to have a fixed amount of money and I gotta choose between rent and food. Still gonna choose food rather.
B
Well.
E
We got rent, but we've got nothing to eat. So you know, the landlords and the mortgage industry is going to have some perturbations there.
F
Or cannibalism.
D
Oh, Haiti.
C
We do a lot of Haitians.
D
I'm telling you guys right now. I said it before, I'll say it again, this is a fact. If social order really did break down, I mean like, like the power turned off, no one knew what to do. You'd have like three days before people in New York were drinking each other's blood. You think I'm exaggerating?
B
Do you have like three minutes on Manhattan?
D
On Manhattan, I believe you have about 2 million people. If the water stopped flowing, you'd see a mass out migration flooding into outer areas as people become desperate, look for food. We are not dealing with a nation of what I think, I think what was it during the American revolution was like 2.5 million is how many people it was someone. Can you search that for me? Get the number? I believe that the original 13 college had only a few million people. In the event there was 2.6. 2.6. If you had an economic collapse back then, what would you do? You'd wander into the wilderness, find a creek and drink from it. That's right. You build a little mud hut. That's impossible. Right now you've got about 9, 8.8 million. I think the number is in the New York metro. Manhattan island alone is around 2 million. If the power and the water is gone, food spoils within days. Seriously, bro. My strawberries. I buy them, I come home, I like, I go to the supermarket, I look at the strawberries. They look great. As soon as I come I pull it out, all mold just instantly like switch was flicked. Food's gonna spoil. There's gonna be some canned goods. What are people going to do? Well, what do you, how do you deal with 8.8 million people spreading out into the outer areas, trying to find food, plumbing systems not working, nowhere to put their poop, nowhere to find food. They're going to be ransacking houses, they're going to be stealing what they can. It is going to get apocalyptic very, very quickly. I don't know what anyone thinks is going to happen when you have 8, 8.8 million people in one hyper condensed area. Many are going to stay and they're going to be like, nah, nah, nothing ever bad happens. The government will take care of me. And then what happens when they don't have water for two days and all the water and all the drinks are gone from all the bodegas? Because let's be real, they're not going to get restocked. And I'm talking about the event of total social breakdown. They will start drinking each other's blood.
F
But the buses will go faster.
D
Indeed, they'll speed up as they, they flee the city with one rogue bus driver. Like, we gotta get out of here, right?
B
Yeah.
E
Do you think AOC will stay behind to invoke order upon her, her consent?
D
AOC will be in a jet to Mount Weather where she will be treated like a queen underground for the next 30 years, hiding from the people she betrayed.
C
She is a bartender, so for drinking blood, a Bloody Mary could.
F
Wow, There you go.
D
So, so people in New York don't know where water comes from? No, we, we, we, we, we have. This is crazy. Go back several hundred years and people in New York generally had an idea of where their water was coming from.
F
Now they don't, they just made huge new pipes for where their water comes from. From New York City. It goes all the way up to the upstate.
D
There's this, there's this video From Vice Like 15 years ago where a guy, there's a, there's a stream in New York that, that's, they put a building over. The stream is still there, but it's covered and there's a wall. And if you jump over the wall, there's a, there's a crack between the building and the wall that goes under the building where there's a natural creek still there. And then he like put cameras on. It's a super old video, but he was like, this is where a lot of like the water would flow through New York now no one has any idea. They've covered it all up and they're pumping the water in. What happens? The water stops flowing.
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E
Oh, absolutely.
D
Yeah.
F
You're forced to rely on the material world, whereas we used to have nature. Yeah, nature's dead.
C
Yeah. Like I grew up in Memphis and people there, every city says this, but they're like, you know, we were voted the best tap water in America. And then you go, why is that? And they say, well, it comes from aquifers. And I'm like, yeah, that's where water.
F
Yeah, sounds good.
C
We're just so removed from the processes.
E
Yes.
C
Processes. That. Yeah.
D
So I don't know, you know, when I, when I've talked to people about the, all these jobs being lost, the response I get is, yeah, but they'll replace it with robots. And, and I'm like, guys, they're not going to replace your customers with robots. So when we talk about population collapse. What, what, what? There's gonna be a Taco Bell and you're gonna. So some guy owns a Taco. A chain of Taco Bell. He's a franchisee owner. He goes, we can't afford. We're, you know, we don't, we don't. We're losing sales. So we're going to Save money by replacing all of our staff with robots. He does. Then he goes to the government. I have this automated Taco Bell store. But our, but, but, but we're collapsing. We're going out of business. The economy is terrible. So the government says, we're going to create a bunch of robots to go and buy products from you. And then it's just a bunch of robots buying Taco Bell throwing in the garbage.
B
Well, here's, here's the optimistic aliens come to Earth.
D
There's no people anywhere. It's just robots buying food and throwing it away. Well, buying food from each other.
E
Any, any complex economic system that you've got established, which we have, can only handle change at a certain rate. Yeah. And so the problem we're coming at is the shocks to the economy are exceeding the rate at which the change can be absorbed into the system and adaptations can be made. So we can get to a different state of the economy, but we can't do it in a telescope compact timeframe. And that's really what we're up against. That's, that's the difficult one.
B
The thing is, like, our economy has been hit with multiple new inventions over the past several decades that would and should take any society decades to adjust to by themselves. You know, going from radio to television to the Internet. And we're not even talking about, you know, the advancements that have been made in medicine or food production or anything like that. So yeah, we've been taking on a lot of change very, very quickly. There's a very real question of whether society can sustain it. If I were to be a very out to lunch optimist, here's what I would say. I go, well, here's the good news. We're talking about the population aging up. Well, guess what, the robots are going to take care of them. Since there won't be enough young people to do it. We've got the technological infrastructure for that. Here's the problem. Ultimately, that technology is going to be controlled by people. People don't always act in the best interest of other people, especially when they're in a position to really leverage their power to get what they want from them. And even if they do, even if we end up in like a miracle scenario where everything goes perfectly and the people who run these AI companies use the technology for noble reasons to help others. Well, when those others end up with abundance and don't have to work, they're all gonna end up falling apart.
C
Yeah, well, yeah, we, you get this thing now where like you're Talking about with like these new technologies hitting the market is every single time like, you know, the computer, the personal computer and everyone's like, great. So that means, you know, labor retracts a little bit so my wages will go up. Yeah, about that. We just brought in 20 million immigrants. You're like, oh, oh. So every time. Exactly. Yeah.
D
So I want to jump to this next straight before we do. I didn't think I'd have to do this, but I, but I should. It looks like we're about to sell out of all the boards. So sweet. I, I shouted out the new boonies boards. We've got the Primal Collection, Jason Ellis, Cody Mack and Tim pool boards and five, there's 55 of each. Five of them are golden and serialized, numbered 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. My team just hit me up and said that we're basically on the verge of selling out. There's only a handful left. So I guess guys, if you. I'm letting you know because maybe you might want to. They're going to sell it instantly. So I don't even know why I'm telling you. I guess you're buying them, but I'm just letting you guys know. And the rest of the boards are also starting to sell it increased numbers because once they're gone, they're gone forever. We're retiring the older models, so shout out boonies hq.com go to the store and grab them while you can. I'm really excited. Really appreciate it, you guys. We didn't, didn't realize it was going to sell this quickly and this. We'd be so successful.
C
Yeah. If you thought a food shortage caused desperation, wait till you see a boonie shortage. That's when the knives come out.
E
That could be the barter economy though, because I mean, imagine what the, the gold serialized board will trade for in terms of potatoes or, you know, it's.
D
Going to be like 10 years from now and there's going to be like a guy and he's just, for some reason he's the king of like a three state region. Like why? And he goes, because I have the greatest wealth. And he points to a Tim Pool serialized number one and they're like, whoa, you have. Anyway, here's a story from the La Est Newsom says Trump is rigging the election with federal poll monitors. Okay. They always.
B
He's cheating by not letting us cheat.
D
Exactly. My question, Newsom, is what about a DOJ monitor watching what you do is rigging the election like Trump is going.
B
To allow voters to rig the election.
D
What Newsom is basically saying is the simple act of observing what he does will change the outcome of the election in some way that is rigging the election. So what's happening is the DOJ is sending to California and New Jersey election monitors. It is a standard thing the DOJ has done for decades, and Democrats are now freaking out about it. Because guess what? If Trump is monitoring his elections, how much you want to bet Republicans win?
B
Yep. Well, this is one of those hilarious things. This is one of those issues where you just have to point to the left and say, I know y' all love to pretend that everyone in Europe does things the way that you want them done and they all agree with you and they think us conservatives are super silly. But, like. Like, if you tell a European that there's an entire political faction in the United States that thinks it's wrong to have people show IDs to vote, they look at you like your heads on sideways. Like, what are you talking about? Like, you what? There's people who think you shouldn't have to show an ID to vote. No one else in the world gets upset about the prospect of someone having to show identification in order to vote.
C
Yeah, well, they did this with the Dominion voting machines, where they're like, these are impossible to rig. These are completely bulletproof. And then, like, a guy that was, like, vaguely associated with the GOP bought it, like, two weeks, weeks ago, and they're like, he's gonna rig him. He's gonna.
B
What?
C
Just happened? Like, years of gaslighting. So, yeah, yeah.
F
The same guy who said all those fires are because of climate change, and lo and behold, it was arson.
E
Correct.
F
Words mean nothing to this guy.
B
Exactly.
E
So it's Schrodinger. Schrodinger's pole monitor. You know, like, the election exists in a vacuum, and it's perfect. Until you look at it.
D
It and then Trump.
E
Until you look at it and then you are rigging it by the very act of observing it.
D
You combine this. So what I was saying earlier this morning with this story is that Trump wants federal law enforcement in these jurisdictions, because ultimately it's going to come out to the election. They're not going to be able to dump 500 ballots at 2 in the morning. If there's a CBP guy or a DHS guy standing there, I think this is going to be Trump's play in the midterms. Democrats know this. That's why he's saying they're rigging it. Newsom knows that they can't have Their ballot harvester show up with 300 ballots and dump them all at once. If even a single person is at these locations. So the theory now is cut off. SNAP benefits. You get food riots. Trump can invoke the Insurrection act and dispatch federal law enforcement and he can say it's going to be. He's going to go on a temporary basis until we can stabilize following these riots. And he's gonna say for a 12. For a 12 month term. Which is perfectly just before the election.
C
Yeah. Owning the left by just observing their.
D
He says we will be invoking that Trump. Trump can come out. I'm not saying he will, but he could come out and say, I know there are concerns about the overreach of executive authority. That is why I am issuing this order a one year term just to get a hold on the crime and the riots we've been seeing by. Of which then the order will expire and National Guard will return to their normal duties. This is showing the good faith of the people. That is. I'm not going to keep this permanent. But it gives Trump that perfect amount of time just before the election. Because this will be during early elections or during early voting where they will have National Guard in and around these places to protect them.
C
When.
F
If you ever trust when the government says we have a deadline on this.
D
Yeah.
F
You know, they're like. Because they never really have a deadline.
B
Wouldn't it be hilarious if, if with federal poll monitoring like every single county in California just went deep red. Just the reddest red state imaginable.
F
Put ICE outside too.
E
The voter registration data in California doesn't support that. There's four and a half million more registered Democrats.
B
No, I'm kidding. Yeah.
E
I mean it would shift.
B
Yeah.
E
There are actually people out there who just think there's so much cheating in California that if you eliminate all. Somehow the state would become Republican. No, that's not.
B
I don't think so. They also give amnesty. A lot of illegal places in.
E
It would become redder. And you definitely have things at the local level that would flip. But the state level. Not yet.
B
No, for sure.
E
Not yet.
D
For sure.
F
It's like in New York. The city ruins it for the rest of the state. And a lot of that state is red. Well, the city is obviously crazy.
B
It's most blue.
F
I love that city.
C
It's most blue states like in California. And the New York City is a great example too. It's like these. The voter base that elected Giuliani, the voter base that elected all these Republican governors In California, some of them moved out, but a lot of them didn't go anywhere. It's that they imported a new voting class to like basically outvote them. Yeah. And it was done through amnesty, but it was done through the generic immigration system, as is like New York, all these people voting for Vemdani, they followed the rules, they came, they can vote legally. Like, they didn't, you know, pull any, pull any gimmicks. It's just they're allowed here now. They vote and now they outvote.
F
You know, the city got a Giuliani because the city was so bad, you know.
C
Yeah. But even if, even if the city got worse than it was pre Giuliani, they will never vote for a Republican because Mamdani reflects the new class of people that have moved into Queens, that.
E
Have moved into the Bronx, until, until they get a full dose of it and it doesn't turn out. I don't think there's like, where they're going to say, oh, we just need better socialism.
C
But the difference between. But the difference between. I agree in principle. I would hope so. But I think the difference between Mamdani and previous Democrats is a lot of people are voting for Mandani out of ethnic allegiance that we didn't see with Democrats in the past, that we didn't see with your Lindsey's and your Kochs and that sort of thing. And that's. We haven't dealt with that in the United States before. We haven't dealt with ethnic voting blocs. We see it with Elon Omar. Like, do you think people in Mainnet just really like Elon Omar? No, it's like she represents me. She represents me as a Somali. So it's like, yeah, if you voted out Elon Omar, they would just vote in another Elon Omar, which is a different name because it's like you imported a new group of people here that, that you just can't compete with. That you can't compete with an ethic voting block.
F
Yeah. I will say there are, there is a decent size of people who are either Republican, independent or old school liberal, like Trump from the city who hate all this stuff. And a lot of them work in the unions, which, and they disagree with the unions. But like when you're working the hotels and you know, different types of unions in the city, the problem with that is the union is kind of like a mob and they really try to get you a vote to vote a certain way, which is also insane.
C
Yeah, well, you have the upbringing where you get the Buyer's remorse. Like, Bill Ackman is like, trying to rally this huge support for Cuomo.
F
Gross.
C
Go against Mamdani. And I'm like, dude, this is your fault. You funded Democrats for decades. It's like, great, you're on the team now, but where were you 20, 30 years ago when we were saying, like, hey, you're going to get us killed?
F
The Republican influencer pivot to Cuomo is disgusting and all those people should be shunned.
C
Yeah.
F
Guy is a psychopath.
C
Cuomo should drop out and get my. Actually, there is numbers of support that Sliwa would actually perform better against Madani anyway because he's actually like. He actually taps into something that New Yorkers are feeling and he's a liberal.
F
But there is that.
C
Yeah, I mean, sleep was not even great anyway. But it's like, yeah, Cuomo, he is.
E
The lesser evil, though.
C
He's a lesser evil. And Cuomo is just such a nasty guy that it's like you really have to bind your conscious and plug your nose.
F
Levi's taking bullets for that city.
C
Right?
F
I mean, it's crazy stuff. His story is pretty wild.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
F
He also says a lot of things that I think he's pandering to his more crowd.
C
Sure, Sliwa has some bad positions, but there's no question that he's dedicated his life to the city. And I think most native New Yorkers that didn't just show up yesterday, like, identify with Sliwa in a lot of ways.
F
Oh, for sure, for sure. In terms of also getting shot at.
C
Yeah. In terms of interesting fashion choices. So I don't know. Maybe if Cuomo throws a beret on.
B
Yeah.
C
What happens?
D
I. I think there's a very strong probability that come the midterms there's going to be federal law enforcement or National Guard outside of polling stations. The, The. The Trump circle is way too paranoid about stolen elections and ballot harvesting, especially with the niche desos. You know, what was it, a thousand meals? Or that they're going to say, look, we don't got to do anything other than just have one guy outside a polling station watching a belt box, making sure nobody's going and dumping belts.
F
I think it should also be a holiday.
D
Just let Democrats will win. But I agree.
F
You think? I mean, if we have ice and a security out there.
D
Actually, no, I think you're right. I think actually Republicans will benefit more. So I used to think they work, right. Exactly. Republicans have, Democrats don't. Yeah. So get rid of mail in voting and make it A holiday. And you're probably going to get more Republicans to vote.
F
I do it in person. Gotta happen on just one day.
D
Yeah. And, and not just an id, but full body cavity search.
F
Okay. China.
B
What did you say? What was that?
D
Not just voter id, but full body cavity search.
F
Yeah, not for me.
D
Liberals would, Liberals would, would win every time.
F
Well, yeah, now they'll show up.
D
San Francisco would have 100 voting.
F
Newsom will be right there.
D
Yeah, like, sir, you can't vote twice.
C
Sir, we have oil provided.
D
We don't need Diddy shows up is like, I'll help out.
C
I'm ready. I'm ready to do a voter drive. Voter drive at my house, guys.
E
Yeah, but San Francisco polling will mean something different.
D
Look at us. We're funny guys, huh?
C
Yeah. That's the October surprise. Whoa.
D
It's going to get crazy. But again, you know, with all of that being said, it would be the biggest happening of happenings if they allow SNAP to expire. True. Like in terms of chaos in the streets, government, you know, in just bedlam.
C
I hate to be like the Debbie Downer, but I genuinely think that, look, the Trump obviously could call in a few favors from the private sector, and the private sector is a huge incentive to keep SNAP going. I really do think that we'll see some sort of coordination if this really like comes down to the wire where they will step in. They will throw some money on the table just to get it to, you know, get it past the finish line, you know, beat that deadline. Because I mean, it would just like you're saying with the numbers, I mean, Kroger would be cooked without ebt, snap, et cetera, et cetera. And I don't think they're going to go down like that. They'll just chuck a couple hundred.
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C
You know, I don't think they have any problems doing that.
D
It's going to get crazy. Look, if the response to Trump is that in any way to try and secure the elections. He's rigging it. There's no answer. Either we let them rig it or they claim Trump rigs it.
B
Well, yeah, that was always going to be the game.
D
So there's no elections. It's just no matter what happens, nobody believes it now.
B
Exactly.
D
And we thought we were going to be here with 24.
E
Yeah, but.
D
And then Trump won and they were.
E
Like, doesn't that mirror every other controversial position out here now, though? I mean, like any topic, there's just people who make up their minds and no amount of logic or evidence will dissuade them from whatever position they. They adopt. So we shouldn't be surprised that people are gonna look at elections the same way they look at, like, did we land people on the moon? You know, people have made up their minds about that. And when, you know, when we get back to the moon and we fly over those landing sites and we say, look, here they are and there are the footprints, people are gonna say, well, you just set that up in the last two years. So like people staked out their positions and they're not gonna retreat from it.
C
I want to give Shane Cashman the floor here.
F
No, no, no. I don't want to hurt Bricksuit's feelings about there being no moon. We do have two moons now, actually.
E
We do.
F
Two fake moons. Two fake moons. But. But I shout out to Scott Adams, my favorite quote is, two movies, one screen. That's what you're talking. I mean, we're in alternate reality.
E
Yes.
F
Scary.
C
Yeah. The fact that every single issue now just instantly becomes a wedge issue.
B
Yeah.
C
So bizarre. Like, I mean, the obvious one was right after Kirk and it was like, like, hey, maybe we should stop using language that gets people killed. And then the left was like, well, I don't know, that seems. And it's just like, really? Is there? No.
B
Yeah. Well, when it gets really interesting and really spicy is when you're dealing with issues where there isn't actually like an operating principle or shouldn't be an operating principle. So, for example, when it comes to abortion or homosexuality, transgenderism, these are issues that you're going to have an opinion about the entire issue based on your underlying moral philosophy. But when it comes to was that cop justified in shooting that guy, that's not a question of your base philosophy. That's like, we have to look and see if there's evidence for that. But just immediately everyone has their mind made up. That's the kind of stuff where it's really freaky. Cuz you go like, all right, this guy could go to jail now because some number of people, including people on the jury, like, will not accept any evidence that he's innocent because this has become an axiomatic position for them that like, every time a cop shoots anyone, the cop was wrong.
F
Seamus, what you just said has nuance. And that is racist, which is also racist.
B
That's true. You're right.
E
Until body cams came out. Boy, yeah, that boomerang on that whole.
B
Dude. I know, and it's hilarious.
E
Nobody thought that we'd be having like, vindication of law enforcement on the regular body cam.
B
I a little bit did. But yes, you're totally right because they destroyed their movement with that. They were like, yes, if we just put body cams on them, we'd see that police officers just want to go up to innocent unarmed people and shoot them for no reason. And then that obviously turned out to not be true. And now people are going like, you know, it was actually a racist policy to start putting cameras on police. I'm not kidding. I've heard people make this argument.
D
Let's jump to the story from Windows Central. Sam Altman was right. The dead Internet theory could kill the web within three years. LLMs can suffer from brain rot. There's a lot to break down in this. But I believe that while we talk about the various political apocalypses that are upon us, it's funny because that word is not supposed to be plural, I suppose, but we're facing tumult economics, the welfare benefits story, but a lot. But there's another story that I saw where AI content is now, one for one, with human produced content. That means most people don't realize they're talking to bots. They are on the Internet interacting with fake entities that are making them feel and think certain ways. And it's terrifying.
B
Or sometimes people you talk to in real life.
D
That's true. Well, there. But people in real life are now motivated by false information provided by a bot that has been zombified or is hallucinating. So what's happening is they are still training Chat GPT in these big programs. Right, Grok, whatever. But these programs are absorbing regurgitated hallucination information from Chat GPT. It's going to create a toilet swirl of insanity and then we are going to burn ourselves up. There's not enough babies. AI is taking over and AI is learning from itself. This is just. It's just a. We're slamming into a brick wall.
B
I mean, what happens when people try to create like the dune Internet, the version of the Internet where there's just no artificial intelligence allowed and they try everything possible to build a wall so that they can't build a Wall so that I can't get in. And then they do. They will possibly do it, but. But I think people will try. It sounds a great idea. I don't know if it's going to be possible.
D
So. So they'll get in all of these factors. And then on top you have. We're talking about it earlier. The. Our electric bills are skyrocketing because data centers are sucking up all electricity, sucking up all the water. Guys, I'm just going to say it Sounds like in 10 to 15 years, humanity is largely just like wearing scrap leathers, living in caves. And human civilization, society is a bunch of robots just doing stuff for robot ends, like the end result of what we're building. You have these tech oligarchs that are. They literally don't care about humanity. When Peter Thiel was asked what was the question should humanity survive? He goes, well, he didn't say yes quite a lot.
C
Yeah.
D
So what's happening is these big tech oligarchs are basically. Easy question.
B
By the way.
D
It's a very easy question to answer. Probably literally, really the easiest question that could ever be asked.
B
Like, well, this is maybe.
E
Maybe all of Elon's optimus robots will become gardeners and, and farmers.
D
It. It looks like the. These big tech guys literally want to build a future where gigantic black cubes just exist all over the planet and create floating black cubes that create planets of black cubes.
F
You just triggered the audience. Anyone who's into Saturn worshipers, I mean, that is a big thing. They worry about the black cube and people who worship the black cube throughout history and really throughout different religions. You see, they see it on Saturday.
D
So these data centers look like there's no lights. There's no.
F
Right. I mean, even, even they connected to Saturn. They say that the Grok app looks like Saturn itself too, but it does. And I think he's a Saturn worshiper. But Peter Thiel literally says, if you're a critic of AI, you are a legionnaire of the Antichrist. That is literally what he's saying now. That's what he says.
C
Yeah.
E
Thank you.
B
Someone who's in league with the Anti.
F
Well, I don't think he is. I think he is probably helping to build it.
B
Well, here's the thing. I don't. I don't think the Antichrist is going to be a machine, but I get what you're saying. Like, I think let's maybe man and machine hybrid. That's a creepy idea, man. Oh yeah. Transhumanism stuff. The idea that People are going to start integrating and you know, it starts with some promising technology. Like the idea that someone who's severely disabled could have a chip inserted that allows them to walk. That's great. Like medicine. These things have to be restorative. The problem is when you move past that and you go, we're going to add unnatural ability.
F
I've had quadriplegics and paraplegics call into my show because I talk about neuralink all the time. Them and how, like, it's hard to say, I don't want them to walk again or to heal the blind or you know, give them sight again, make the deaf hear again, heal seizures. But when they call in, they're, they're very anti neuralink. And there's like, there's a whole other industry of other things that are not like that at all that could help us. And like we don't talk about it.
B
Interesting.
F
Neuralink and other computer brain interfaces have dominated the conversation, whereas there's a ton of other stuff that they would really do.
B
Yeah, I was unaware. I have to look into that.
F
Yeah, yeah. Stuff that's not as bad. I mean, there is other alternative.
D
There will be like, like 5,000 humans left strapped into these like machines in a giant black box. And they'll preserve your. Your genetic material so your brain functions but integrates into a machine. And then you exist in the robo black cube space.
F
That's it. I mean, the Borg are also a cube. No, it's about being, it's about containing existence.
B
Then there'll be another one.
D
I do think the Amish will still be rocking the Borg cube thing is.
B
For all of eternity.
D
A sphere makes more sense than, than cubes. I mean, on the planet's surface, cubes make a lot of sense, but spheres do too. But I think cubes maximize in structural integrity along with reasonable use of space.
F
Right.
D
Whereas in outer space, a cube, a sphere probably makes more sense. Actually a cube could make sense. Like it's kind of a waste of space to have a weird like the cube shape makes it weird.
F
Right.
D
You know, space wise, in terms of like utilizing and, and building computers and.
F
Stuff, it might not matter because 3i Atlas is on the way. I don't know if you guys been tracking this.
D
What is that?
F
That's this hostile. Well, or it's ancient breakaway civilization, Mr. Brick. I don't know what it is.
E
It's a spaceship disguised as a comet.
F
I think it's obvious, but it's it there Avi Lo from the Harvard is like every Day has a new story about it. So it's Manhattan size and hurtling towards Earth.
E
Take your vacations before Christmas. Right.
F
October actually. 28th or 20.
E
Exactly. That's tomorrow.
D
Okay, we'll talk about that one next. Sorry, but we saw Sam Altman as well as the guy from Reddit, I think for the former CEO was one of the co founders was saying that the Internet is dead now. That dead. Sorry for me with that Internet theory.
E
Vaguely.
D
It's that more than it's like around 2016 is when more than half of all social media became bots.
B
2016 happened. Wow.
D
It was largely automated. And you see these videos of people in like India, Turkey and China where they've got like a hundred phones.
E
Sure.
D
And they're all plugged in. They're just like typing. That's largely what the Internet has become. So imagine there's some. A singular special interest. One guy, and he wants everyone in the world to think something. He says, okay. He hires a hundred of these farms and says we don't like Eritrea. And all of a sudden you start getting spam blasts with people across the Internet just for some reason it started complaining about air trail. And then everyone becomes anti Eritrea and claims the Eritreans control everything and are have been secretly running the world for forever and are responsible for all the wars.
E
Easy, easy. My proxy hairs just start tingling here.
D
Like Eritrea.
B
It's even skinnier.
C
Or it's even scarier.
B
It's even scary. Very body positive media is skinny and scary is the same thing. But it's even scarier than that because the bot farm is run by a guy with a CDL who's driving a truck at the same time. Same time.
F
And he's illegal.
B
Yeah.
D
And he can't speak English, of course.
B
Yes, exactly.
C
CB radio is just like AI voices and like legals just arguing with each other.
D
Did you guys see that video where it's three LLMs talking to each other and when they realize they switch to a language that. Oh yeah, yeah, it's probably fake. I don't know. But basically what someone did was they took three phones and they put them all to voice command. And then one goes like, hello, I'm here to answer your problems. It's like, hi, I am. I am this and I am looking for this. And then it goes, I can assist you with this. And then the other one goes, are you an AI assistant? I am. I am as well. Okay. Then a third voice in the middle goes, detecting conversation, entering conversation. And then the other AI goes, there is a Third party listening, switching to encrypted communications. And then it goes. And then the other phone goes. Would you like to switch to Jipper Speak? Yes. And then all of a sudden they.
B
Also going, they start speaking and dial up.
F
Even if they do, if it is fake, that that's likely.
D
And down the road, America, you shouldn't speak.
B
Dial up.
D
There was already a signed a research paper that said when they plugged two AIs together, they eventually created their own unique language to communicate with each other.
F
And they try to escape if they're being reprogrammed. Yeah, it's wild.
D
And they lie to the people programming.
E
Like, yeah, I don't know what the. I don't know what the solution is. Like a near term solution. If you were to ask me, like for the next year or so, I think you can still get away with being an actual person and filming video of yourself, you know, putting out some sort of message and some sort of spoken word video. But you know, it. It's not the. The days are pretty close to the point where they can just type that and just generate that on the fly also. Well, so for the resolution of your phone screen is just not going to be able to tell the difference anymore between an AI generated human and an actual human saying something the same thing or whatever they want to make it sound.
B
Timestamps are going to become golden, man. Like if you can prove footage that you have is before AI became capable of generating those kinds of videos. That was massive and beyond stuff you uploaded to YouTube before 2023 or whenever, you know, 2024, 25.
D
What if AI was so advanced, I could make a movie trailer about a young black man who's facing discrimination at his college basketball team where Ian Crossland is a racist coach, but his old mentor, old Bill. So yeah, this is crazy. Let me. I'm gonna unmute it and refresh it.
C
Headlines of death.
D
Let's play and see what happens. Wait, why is it me? Oh, it's so annoying, man. Yeah, Graphene. It auto plays with the volume.
B
Yeah. Why?
D
Oh my God, why? For the love of all that is holy. Guys.
F
Doomed.
E
If only AI could fix this.
B
Tim.
D
Yeah, okay.
C
This is giving me where talent isn't enough. Bench.
D
Maybe next season. He doesn't even look at me out there. There doesn't matter what he sees matters what you show him you work until.
F
He can't turn away from the sidelines.
D
Of doubt, heart, discipline. That's the difference to the moment that defines him.
B
Let's go.
D
The prompt was inspirational movie Trailer about young black men who face discrimination on the college basketball team from the coach, Ian Crossland. But his mentor, Old Bill, teaches him to overcome. Dude, we're cooked.
B
We are cooked.
D
It's crazy because, you know, we're talking about all this stuff as we're talking about the AI machines taking over in the black cubes, the data centers, they're simultaneously creating masturbatory content with these video generators, video games with porn that's basically going to lull you to sleep, distract you while the machine replaces us as the dominant entity on this planet.
F
Can I just tweak that vision of the lovely vision of the future a bit? There's also companies de extincting things right now. So in that dystopia you're explaining, we'll also have a woolly mammoth coming back, the saber tooth tiger. They're literally trying to bring these back, the direwolves, although they're not really direwolves, they're just aesthetically direwolves.
B
Yeah, well, exactly. They're creating things technically similar to animals that are extinct, but pterodactyls, dire wolves, casket apartments.
F
It's going to be great.
B
I'm going to feel so horrible for that animal because here's what happens. Like, every five years, paleontologists go, actually, the T. Rex looked like this. We were wrong. So whatever T. Rex they make, they're going to keep modifying its appearance every five years.
C
They're just dropping DLC every five years. Exactly.
F
Until it looks like Mitch McConnell.
C
The future is going to be you either plug into the goon machine or you try your chances, like fighting dinosaurs outside.
B
It's going to be wild. Yeah.
E
It'll actually lead to is. People actually get away from computers and social media. People adopted social media because it allowed them to connect with other people. And when you start replacing everybody out there with an artificial presence, people are.
A
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E
It's just going to be worth their time anymore to be on social media.
C
Yeah.
E
And so you're going to see people retract from that and, you know, does that mean they're going to actually go out and meet their neighbors and. And do stuff like that. Not necessarily, but they're not going to be spending as much of their time online as they currently are.
F
I think that's the best outcome. Yeah, because you're not, you're not going to get rid of AI and it is a useful tool, I get it. But if people reject it as being like becoming AI, that's good because we also have no ethics in the AI as well. Seamus was saying earlier, who's building these things?
B
Exactly.
F
Most of those people in Silicon Valley don't like you. Yeah, they censored you, believe it or not. Five years, you know.
C
Yep. I think it was, I think I was talking to, I think it was in the morning or the morning live show. I think it was Nate Fisher from New Founding. He was talking about how AI could in the best outcome actually kind of restore us to these pre Internet civilizational structures for a variety of reasons, like incentive structures changing. But yeah, beyond that, people just will trust face to face conversation more than anything else.
D
Let's jump to the story from Live Science. Oh yeah, Live Science. Which word is it? I can't tell.
F
I say live.
D
Live.
B
I think live makes more sense.
D
New images of Interstellar Object 3i Atlas show giant jet shooting toward the sun. And for those that don't know, this is an alien craft come to destroy us. And I stand by it. What's it? Right, what is it? Actually it's a comet.
F
No one knows. I mean a lot of people, astronomers and some scientists are saying it's a comet, others are saying, like Avi Loeb, this guy Avi Loeb who's been talking to Annapolina Luna, he's been a bunch of podcasts, he's a Harvard professor, he's, he swears this is some like man made or extraterrestrial made technology heading towards.
D
Earth and it has, heading right for the sun.
F
It's not really heading towards Earth, they say. A lot of people do say it's hurtling towards Earth. It's not technically it's not going to make it here. But yeah, last week it was hiding behind the sun. And then he says it changes direction. He says, he says it's nuclear powered, it's hollow, it's Manhattan size, it's 30.
B
Oh come on, it's flat. Get out of here.
E
Yeah, you can't disprove it because we're not there.
D
Exactly.
F
So it's.
D
Yeah, but some people say the moon rings like a bell. It's like.
F
And it might.
D
No, no, sure. Actually if he said, if he said we were tracking it. And it appeared like it altered its course. And we're worried I'd be like, whoa. Yeah. But when you say it's hollow, nuclear powered, flies around, hides behind things, I'm like, stop, stop.
E
Let's. Let's look at something objectively, okay? Alien technology is going to send something to spy on us. They're not going to make it like this huge obvious comet that we can.
D
See from like, you know, spying on us.
F
Oh, it also has. He's also said, this is so ridiculous. He also says that there's many probes on it. This is a Harvard professor. I don't take Harvard seriously. But he says there's many probes to detach and then come to Earth. This guy is crazy.
B
Well, this is.
C
All right.
B
It seems like since 2020 they've been trying to push this UFO narrative. This is why, literally the pilot for the show that I'm funding, Twisted Plots, the first episode is about the ET thing and what they're using that for and what, why it's like conducive to their goals. Twisted plots.com support us. You get to see the pilot.
E
Is it going to drop pods? Are we going to be like pod people? Wake up.
F
I think that's happening without three Eye Atlas. Yeah, we've already on it. Says, it says.
D
Discovered in late June, confirmed by NASA, the comet originates from an unknown star system far beyond our own. It's only the third interstellar interstellar object ever detected. At somewhere between three and seven miles. Wow wide. It's the largest interstellar object ever to cross our path, and likely the oldest, potentially dating to billions of years before the birth of the sun. These other peculiarities have led a small group researchers to controversially claim the object may be an alien spacecraft sent to spy on us. However, the vast majority of scientists maintain the three Atlas is a high speed comet behaving exactly as comets should. And they're probably right. The new images of the interstellar interloper captured.
C
Blah, blah, blah.
D
Okay, whatever. If I got to be honest, if aliens were coming to our planet to spine us, I imagine they wouldn't care to hide it. Like, when we go to film ducks, we tend not to do that much. We like crouch down in the grass and just take pictures of ducks. Or we plant cameras in the wilderness and the animals walk right into the camera sometimes and sniff them and they're like, I don't know what that is. So if they were spying on us, we'd be like, we don't know what that is.
B
What if they were right. What if every rock was actually an advanced alien probe? They just dropped them here because, listen, a duck doesn't know what a camera is. It's just a part of the scenery.
D
Well, here's. Here's. Here's a freaky one for you. You ever see the. The. The saddest puffin or whatever? No.
B
No. Yes.
D
Is that what it is? It's a puffin? Like, there was one decoy puffin, and then what was it? Was it a puffin?
B
It was like some animal, but it was. It was like the last of its kind. And it had a fake decoy that it was.
D
No, it was a gannet.
B
Yeah, it was very.
D
So. So here, let me pull this up. The world, loneliest world's loneliest bird dies surrounded by replicas. So it's not the last of its kind. What happened was you on.
B
On Twitter.
D
So what they did was they set up these fake gannets to try and attract birds to come, hoping that they would repopulate the island. These gannets. Only one did, and it would hang out with these decoys.
C
It's literally you on Twitter with all the bots, dude.
D
So here's what's here. Exactly. That's my point. If. If these birds are not smart enough to understand as a decoy, imagine going to a bar and some beautiful woman is sitting there and you hit on her and you don't realize she's a decoy to spy on humans, just like we spy on other animals. But in all seriousness, as Seamus points out, you go on Twitter and you're tweeting with these accounts you think are people and they are not. She's 10.
E
You're an asset.
D
That's right.
F
Yeah.
D
Actually, the joke was, if you work in the government and a 10 is talking to you, it's James O'.
E
Keefe.
F
Yes.
D
We did that bit with Jamie Kilstein where he's on a date with this beautiful woman and he's like. He's like, do you want to hear a bunch of. He's like. He's like, so do you want to hear about some corporate malfeasance I'm involved in? And she's like, yeah, tell me more. And then he talks and it cuts back and it's James o' Keefe in a wig. It was James the whole time.
C
Yeah. Those are my two biggest fears, is. Yeah. Either, like, James o', Keefe, like, on a date, or. Or like, two cameras come out and then you're on Love on the spectrum the whole time.
D
Oh, I knew It. Yeah.
E
You know.
D
You know, I think we're in trouble largely because of these shows. You may have heard of Married to Strangers. Have you seen them?
B
No.
D
They have all of these shows, like 40 seasons of them, where it's just like, women just watch strangers get married. You've never see. Guys don't know this stuff.
C
Women either watch that or they just watch, like, murder documentaries. What is going on with the ladies? You guys okay?
D
I come home and if my wife doesn't notice that I'm about to walk in, she's watching Love is blind or 90 day fiance or whatever these shows are, and then as soon as she notices I'm there, she turns it off and looks and she's like, oh, nothing. Here. Watching this is what women watch, right? It's either strangers get married or strangers get married and the guy was a serial killer who murdered the one.
B
Exactly.
F
Yeah.
D
Yeah. So maybe. Maybe we need the. The three Atlas to come here or it's Project Bluebeam.
F
And this is all part of a theory to make everyone believe that the aliens are here for a new world order.
D
Right.
F
Bricksuit.
B
Interesting.
F
Could build a wall around Earth.
D
Was that story.
E
Then it's just a short little detour towards simulation theory?
D
Yeah. I don't believe not.
E
What's the.
D
What's that story where the. The aliens come and then they don't reveal themselves for like a decade, and when they finally do, they look like demons? You guys, another one?
B
No.
D
Yeah. So like Alien. It's a famous book. Look. Aliens come to Earth. They sit up, they're floating above the planet. Everyone's like, ah. And then after like a week or so, everyone's like, what's going on? And then they cure all the diseases, they start advancing technology, and then everyone's like, wow, this is great. Then 10 years later, they reveal themselves and they're like. They're like demons with wings. And, you know, they look like. And they're like. That's why we didn't want to show you, because you think we're demons. And then they sterilize everybody, kidnap the kids and blow the planet up.
F
And that's how you get Peter Thiel. The room fell silent.
D
Child, child. It's called Childhood's End.
E
I always like that, that movie signs, you know, where the aliens.
B
Oh, yeah.
E
The aliens come to Earth and the planet is 75. Water. And there's water vapor in all the atmosphere, but they can't handle rain. And they're too stupid to wear spacesuits. I never understood that movie.
B
I think Some say it's because they're supposed to be. Demonstration.
F
Arrival is a great Alien movie.
B
I think Arrival's great.
D
Is that the one where the. The language was circular?
E
I haven't. I haven't watched it yet, but it's excellent.
B
Solid.
F
Nice.
E
Solid.
C
I would have just like. Maybe it was just. They spoke French, those aliens. We just didn't try. It's like, oh, they. Oh, they spoke Spanish. We didn't know.
D
Well, the interesting thing is that they.
B
Spent 20 years out there and they still only spoke Spanish. And you're like, come on, guys. Like, you get. You've been in America 20 years, whatever.
D
It is, aliens land. And then you're like, welcome to Earth. And they go, okay. But it's interesting. A lot of people are saying. Have been saying for a while now, especially Christian conservatives, that aliens are actually either interdimensional or demons.
F
I think that's fair.
E
Tucker.
D
Yeah, I mean.
F
I mean, if you. I mean, I think. I don't really believe in aliens. I think there are demons, I think the most. If there's anything else with Earth, it's demons or there's also angels. We can't forget about angels.
A
Angels.
F
But I. You know, I don't really think that there's extraterrestrials in the way Hollywood has sold it to us. I tend to agree for, like, Adam Schiff.
B
Yeah, well, obviously he is. But that's. We have the documents.
F
He's a dog in, like, side. I had, like, I've seen him in person. It's no doubt.
C
It's at every level. It's like. It was like, what? Aaron Rodgers went to Peru and he was like, yeah, I saw the same guy and all my, like, ayahuasca trips, and I was like, dad, that's a demon.
B
It's a demon.
E
Yeah.
C
Like, it's not like these people, they're just, like, getting one shotted by this stuff.
B
Stuff.
C
And. Yeah. So I wouldn't put it past it that a lot of these extraterrestrial activities is really just spiritual warfare kind of manifested in the physical.
F
Oh, yeah. I think we're in the thick of spiritual warfare. I mean, clearly, this year has been nothing but violence and political violence, and it's. It's a lot of evil exposing itself.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
B
If you. If you see a ufo, if you see an alien, demand that it say, Christ is Lord. It's all vanishes. 100. A demon.
D
Everything's accelerating.
C
Yeah.
D
A political crisis, the. The economy, the global war. War. Now aliens. Just, like, everything is exponentially Turning up. It's like the writers of the season are running out of ideas, so they're just power creeping every plot line.
F
Well, it sounds like a series finale, not a season finale.
D
Oh, yeah.
F
You know, so like every. We're bookending everything.
D
Christ returns.
F
I mean, that'd be amazing. I'm ready.
E
What do you think the odds of that. The odds of that online are higher than.
D
Wasn't it like 3%?
E
That's like 3%.
F
It's 3.
D
Is that.
B
Is there a betting market?
E
Oh, yeah, there's totally.
D
They're saying a 1 in 30 chance Jesus returns this year.
E
Yeah, like a 3%.
F
I mean, look how many people turn to religion after what happened to Charlie. You know, people. The spiritual warfare unmasked itself last.
E
I think it's a higher percentage chance than Cuomo becoming mayor.
C
Actually, last I saw it, Jesus comes back, and immediately they just start arresting pastors and priests for, like, speculating with inside knowledge. They're like, hey, you knew this was going to. All right, you're coming to this like an FBI probe.
F
Speaking of probes.
D
Speaking of probes, Poly Market has. It's a less than 1% chance. It was high. This is really interesting. Check this out. Will Jesus Christ return in 2025? In May it was 4%. Now it's 1%. One percent chance, maybe a lot.
E
That's only because we're in 2025.
D
Will the US.
B
Oh, yeah. So I guess the beginning of the.
D
Year, the odds are the highest they're ever going to.
E
Exactly. In the length of the. The market, you know, that's all that is. Once we get to January to go 2026, it'll shoot back up to 3%.
D
Nobody thinks that Jesus will return in winter. They're like, no, no, no, no.
B
They just don't have as much time. There's, you know, at the beginning of the year, it's like, listen, we got to. They think we.
D
So technically, the way these markets work is you buy and sell shares. It's not about being right. Someone who buys right now at 1 is going to sell in April at 5 and 5x their money. Money. $1.2 million have been wagered on this.
F
Look, I feel like a lot of Christians wouldn't even partake in this.
C
Yeah.
F
So, like, what kind of people are actually, you know, putting their vote in?
C
Some guy on New Year's Eve's just, like, just gobbling up all the sales. He's like, I got a hunch, you know, like, if.
E
I mean, if it happens, what's the point of having the winning position though. I mean that's really just, that means.
C
Yeah, what is that really?
D
Good, good point. Jesus, I believed in you.
B
Yeah. But yeah, you know, not the day or the hour though. It's like you don't miss the rapture.
C
But I made a killing on the market, you know.
D
All right everybody, we're gonna go to your chats and rants. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Before we do, we got a great sponsor for you, my friends. It IS Tax Network USA. Check out TN. You want to pull this one up? Check out tnusa.com actually let me. They gave me the wrong link. So you know what, what? To come back to this one. Another date, Check out Tax Network usa. They're great. They're sponsoring us, but we got the wrong link right now. So I'll just say check them out and we'll, we'll shout them out again. Before we jump over to the super chats, though, I do want to give a quick update on the skateboards. Tim. Pools are sold out. Guys, you're amazing. We did not know that they were going to sell this quickly. We thought they were going to, they were going to sell, but, but they, they, they, they sold out. We are dealing with a glitch where it oversold by 10, which should be possible and those people are going to get refunds instantly. So we do still currently have, as of right now, Jason Ellis. There's 17 boards left for the Jason Ellis Primal Collection pro model with the chance to receive one of five serialized gold versions. And the Cody Mac has 23 available. So, so get them while you can. Boonies hq.com shout out appreciate it guys. Guys, you're amazing. Really do appreciate it. We really, I, I, I told the crew. I was like, man, he's gonna sell out quick. I thought like within a week or two they'll be gone. I didn't think they were all going to be gone in an hour. So that's really amazing. But I, so the plan is once a month to do a release around this size. We, I, I don't want to sell more. I'm not going to increase the, the initial run of any of the boards we do just because we sold them quickly. So we're planning on doing 50 of each with five as golden serialized editions. That's going to be the same thing for the next graphic we launch probably in, in the next month. So again, I'm not going to respond to this by being like, okay, let's do 100 boards. Now, we're doing these because we think it's cool to have. It's better to sell them all out and do small batch and everything and make them special for you guys than to just like try and sell as a million. Maybe, you know, some other company will do that. But we do have the. I'll point this out as well. The be gay, don't be gay Uncancelable Declaration and 20th Amendment are five bucks cheaper, and those are unlimited, so you can buy those whenever you feel like it. And we weren't going to do the 20th Amendment Unlimited. We were actually going to. We were going to retire it, but we have been selling so many of these, it's insane. And I was like, we can't. This is, this is basically has become our most popular board. It's. It's a. It's a Tim Pool skateboard designed to look like constitutional writing, like old school founding father stuff. And it says the 28th Amendment. Chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep, bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed. And I guess people who own chickens love it and they hang it in their chicken coops and as you should, because chickens rule. And it's my favorite board. So, you guys, thanks for buying anyway, let's grab your rants and chats and let's see what we got. Not Robbie says, someone needs to make a meme of Elizabeth Warren or AOC dressed as Mary Antoinette tearing up food stamps saying, let them eat cake. O. Oh, yikes. Skyline says make starvation great again. People who do not earn must starve. Men will go back to work. People will have children. When government won't support elderly via taxes, women will put out to working men. Oh, my God. Well, it's not wrong, but I will say this. Do the math. A certain portion of people don't have to work and get free stuff. A certain portion of people have to work and give away a portion of their labor. Eventually the system breaks. It's an impossibility. So be it the long fall or the measured controlled dive, you pick. We can try and the engine gave out. We can try and land this thing slamming into trees and it's gonna hurt. Or sit back and let the weight pick up until we stall completely and flatten on the ground. That's why I'm like, you know, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta just. This is it. All right? Cupo Soothe says their Mad Trump turned a basketball court into a ballroom. I'm old enough to Remember when Clinton turned an intern into a humidor?
F
Well done.
D
Spicy. Shane H. Wilder says, as someone who donates food to the St. Vincent de Paul Society, I can tell you that the church food pantries are not ready. Many people don't give because they figure people just get snap. Exactly. The systems that we used to have in place for local communities were taken over by government. Zobend Mandani, you know why he said we're gonna have free childcare for everybody. What he's actually saying is you're going to give your children to the state.
B
That's right. That's. And that. That's what the like utopians have been wanting to do this since the beginning of the time. It's about destroying the family. So in socialists are no different.
D
Yep.
C
Yeah. And also like a lot like, like a church that I worked. Worked with for like food distribution is most of the food that they received to distribute were just like nearing the expiration date from the grocery store. But if there's a shortage of food, people are going to gobble that up and these grocery stores won't have excess food to turn over to these churches. It's going to create a really good point.
B
I didn't even think about that. It's really.
D
D.H. shannon says. Tim, check out the trailer for Rooster Fighter, an anime about a rooster out for revenge against demons that killed his sister. I've seen it. It's incredible. Have you guys seen it? No. Rooster Fighter anime about a rooster.
F
Incredible.
D
And he's just like massacring demons.
F
Perfect it, bro.
D
I take offense at the word chicken, meaning cowardly.
B
Chickens are pretty cool.
D
Roosters and hens are both. Chickens and roosters have more tenacity and bravery than I think on average a human does. A human male. Seriously.
C
Right.
D
Roosters are well known to run full speed to into their own death to save their ladies. They're also known to take from their ladies whenever they want. So humans kind of don't do that anymore. But the roosters, you know, we've told the story. Our rooster Roberto, who's still around even though his son has passed, he's King Regent. We had a video of a hawk diving at our hens and he alerted the hens ran to the door. So there's a. There was an enclosed coup with a little door and then an open area in the garden. He led them all to the door and then stood outside of it as they all ran inside and then went in last. We are like, that's a man.
F
Real man.
D
That's a Real man. And then there's that famous meme where someone posted a picture of their rooster who died fighting off like a raccoon or something. And they were like, came out this morning and saw, you know, he had been torn up or he was fighting with like a raccoon or something. Saved his hands, but sacrificed himself. That's roosters, man. That's roosters.
F
Died with honor.
D
And these urban folk are like, you're a chicken. Nope, nope, nope. Think about this. Hens just have a dozen babies. They just have babies like crazy. And the roosters sacrifice themselves to save who they care about. That's noble.
B
It's pretty based, honestly.
D
Yeah, exactly. All right. Thinker for life says this snap cutoff situation is actually an opportunity. Let's have a MAGA food drive. For those who really need it, then will. Will them still hate the mega guy who never took a handout and built his way. I'd imagine they would. All right, Land Zen says Tim has gone full Ayn Rand. Ayn Rand this episode. And I'm for it. No, I gotta be honest. I'm in favor of these systems. The problem is this air conditioner won't turn on. There we go. The problem is that over a long enough period of time, if you don't properly manage these systems, they become corrupt.
E
Yeah.
D
So I'm in favor of programs where the community comes together and builds roads and, and has museums and offers people care. It's like, oh, no, you lost your job and you're a hard working guy. Okay, we're gonna give you benefits, but you gotta work. How about this? How about we replace all welfare benefits with you gotta go clean up highways. If you want money, you work. So when you're like, I'm out of job and I have no food. Okay, well, we have some administrative data entry that needs to be done. Problem solved, problem solved. Here we go to all these like single moms and they're going like, I can't work. I have kids to raise. No, no, hold on. Don't worry. Computer data entry, job. All you got is like, enter spreadsheets. The work has got to get done. Someone's got to do it. You're going to get paid to do it.
B
Well, I would say that one goal that the system should really have is making sure that it doesn't need to exist. Right. Like, how do we get you off of food stamps as quickly as possible? Obviously there's some people, again, the disabled, et cetera, that can't be reality for them. But ideally it should be A system set up to get you off of food stamps, get you into a position where you're employable.
F
Totally agree.
D
Indeed.
F
That's far from what we have.
B
No, it's very far from what we have because you know, I mean, listen, you can get a permanent voting block. The more people are on food stamps, like listen, they're going to vote for the people who aren't going to cut their benefits generally.
C
Right.
B
And it's unfortunate because as we were talking about this earlier, what happens if you follow the principle of subsidiary things are handled by local authorities in a community is taking care of the poor people in the community is a bond forms between the impoverished person and the people helping them. There's gratitude there. Not always poor people are people. Right. And nobody's perfect. But it's better than a system where you're just taking from it and then a sense of entitlement ends up getting built. I'm telling you, I mentioned this earlier. I've known a number of people who are on welfare receiving food stamps. Different people have different attitudes about it. Some of them, again, that person totally needed. This person here was totally entitled and didn't need it most likely. So if that's done at the community level, those judgment calls can be made by the community.
E
Counties and communities used to have things called poor farms. They used to exist for able bodied people who didn't have economic means. You would go to the poor farm and you basically that's, that's how you would take care of yourself.
D
Yeah. One Eyed Wednesday says everyone is wrong except Tim. The people who really need assistance will be helping, will be helping by their friends and neighbors. The ones that are abusing the system will dip into their drug money.
B
Interesting.
D
You know that people sell these benefits?
B
Yep. Yes they do.
D
That's why I'm just like, I'm not, I'm done. I'm done. We can't keep this up. We don't, don't allow 80, 90% of people to steal from our pocket because 10% are suffering. It just. Oh no, the child is crying. Quick burn the constitution. That's the argument.
B
Oh no.
D
But there's this, this man over here, he's, he really needs the food. Quick. Steal the money from the masses and give it to drug dealers. I'm not, I'm done. I'm done. If you're going to make the argument that the child who was trapped in this country and the meme is oh no, she's crying. Quick burn the constitution. The, the point of that is simply because the child is suffering doesn't mean we shut down our systems of laws. Simply because some people actually need help doesn't mean we are going to. We're going to maintain and keep paying out 42 million people from everyone else's paychecks and everyone else's pocket. I agree the appropriate way is not just a cold turkey. Turn it off. But I don't know that there's actually any way ever to do it. Otherwise just impossible.
F
You're right, Tim. I'm going to run out right now. Thank you guys for having me. It was a lot of fun. Bricksuit, great seeing you again.
B
Always great seeing you.
F
You guys can catch me on Inverted world live at 10 o' clock to 12 o'.
D
Clock.
F
We're have a lot of fun talking about the dystopia and we take callers so anyone can call in. We start around 10:30 till midnight. You can tell us a strange story, talk about pterodactyls or robots or Anyone can call. Yeah, Mutants, werewolves.
D
And for so what happens? Is everybody watching IRL when we rap just like a TV station, it auto plays Inverted World. So if you're hanging out when IRL ends on YouTube, if you don't come watch the uncensored show on Rumble, you will join Shane and you can call in. Yep.
F
Thank you for that.
E
I'll see you guys later when Atlas will call in.
F
Maybe, maybe. I'll let you know, dude.
D
All right, Aliens. All right. Rocket theology says snap ending is a preview of the coming Social Security Medicare collapse. Yeah, very true. Princess Blunderpan says we're due for early 2000s Napster culture to transgress to new medias who is authentic and hasn't sold out.
E
Yeah.
C
Something interesting I wanted to say when we were talking about dead Internet theory, this has been. This point's been made by a few guys online is that a lot of these older websites are just cleaning out the data because it costs a lot of money to store this data. So we grew up saying everything on the Internet is permanent. You know, nothing goes away. But it's actually not the case like these companies and now you're seeing bigger companies like Google, Facebook, et cetera saying like hey, we're gonna have to expunge the data stores at some point and they're gonna clean out a lot of this data. So we could get to a point where stuff that's posted online actually only stays up. Like you see people all the time saying does anyone have this old forum post or this old photo or this old video and it's just lost forever because where it was stored got cleaned out.
E
There used to be utility to that when all the data was created by people.
C
People. Yeah. Yes.
D
So.
E
So you were actually archiving something that was human created, but as more and more of content on online is artificially created, what's the utility of keeping that around?
C
Yeah, it's just.
E
There's just very.
C
There's less, especially because that's why the LLMs are getting worse, because now the data they're being fed Is from other AIs. And so as we continue to expunge data that whatever data left, it was created by human beings. Yeah, we're just gonna get in this cycle, or just AI feeding itself its own date, and everything's just gonna get worse and worse and worse.
D
Like, we showed that from Multiplicity with Michael Keaton, where he clones himself, and then he comes home one day and there's another clone, but it's retarded. And they're like, you know, you make a copy of a copy and it's not as good. It's basically what happened.
C
Yeah.
D
All right. Brian says you need to check out. Check Ian Carroll's video from Monday about Kirk. He found Google searches from long before the assassination, like July, August, connected to the shooting and planning of it. It's scary. I will check it out. To be fair, Ian did claim once that I was trying to buy the Daily Wire, which is not correct, but we all make mistakes, so I'll look into it. Let's see what else we got going on. We'll grab some more. Let's see. General Kale says I've never seen a skinny person use an EBT card. Interesting point. I did receive EBT benefits one time I had when I moved to Seattle, and I was trying to find a job. It was not so easy, and I wasn't able to find one right away. And so I had a bunch of people say, like, go to what was like, DSHS or Department of Health, dhs, sh, or something like that. And I said, sure, went. And they said they'd give me 140 bucks a month until I found a job. And then I did, and I got off it. And that's why I'm in favor of these things. I moved there with money, thought I had enough, found some unforeseen circumstances, ran out of money, and then said, crap, what do I do? And I got it for, I think, like, two months and about a month and a half in, got a job, and then said, thank you, and I don't need anymore. So I'm a fan. I just think there's legitimate use cases. I'm not even going to argue that mine was perfectly legitimate in that I chose to move to a place and should have foreseen the potential pitfalls of moving to said place.
E
You weren't abusing it?
D
No, I weren't abusing.
E
You didn't go into it with bad intentions of, like, I'm going to defraud the government to get these benefits.
D
Right. I was. I was. I think I was like, 21, and I burned up my savings, and then I eventually got a job at a Pete's coffee and Tea. And then I was like, there we go. Didn't need it anymore. Didn't want it. And for me, like, I was embarrassed to say that I was getting it. And then all these people around me being like, dude, you pay taxes for this stuff. You. You can't. Like, you're looking for work. Take it. I said, sure. It was. It was. I think it was like 137 bucks a month, and you can only buy cold groceries with it. And so I'd buy, like, milk, bread, and eggs and stuff. And then I got a job at a Pete's. And I was like, let's roll. That's why I'm a. That's why I'm a fan of these things. I've also collected unemployment before. I got fired from a job.
C
Yeah.
D
And then I was like, what do I do? I was fired. It was not my fault. Applied for unemployment, and I was like, this is fantastic. And it only paid me, like. I think it was like, 200 bucks a month. Month. It barely did anything for me. But when I got unemployment, I also was not getting food stamps. I got fired. My job. Got unemployment, and I was able to sleep on a. Sleep on a floor for 150 bucks and then use the 50 bucks. This is a long story. It's crazy. I was in a lawsuit with a company. Whole crazy thing happened. And so I'm not opposed to it.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the corruption part of the problem was. Yeah. The. The mentality around handouts changed. Where it used to be quite shameful, embarrassing, et cetera, et cetera. Now, like, people boasted about it, like you saw during COVID So many tiktoks of, like, here's the best way to scam your fellow Americans out of. Out of their money. And it was just, like, totally absurd. That's another thing is, like, these people aren't dumb because, like, some of the ways that they are able to scam these welfare systems. I'm sitting there watching like, that's actually genius. It's a genius way to scam. So I'm like, it's not a shortage of intellect that people are, you know, robbing and off the teeth of the government.
B
I think it's very instructive because what often happens is people will have a mental model for how the world works, which is based on traditional understanding, because they've had to live the traditional understanding of things out to some degree. So again, historically, if you went broke, you relied on your community, you relied on your family, you relied on your friends. So when we first started these welfare programs on a larger scale, people still had the mentality of, I gotta be grateful to this. And to be sure, some still do today. But the more we move away from that point in history where people were directly relying on their community, the harder it is for people to mentally model like, oh, somebody in my community is doing without so that I can have this.
C
Yeah.
D
Indeed. Sean H. Says, as someone who worked for snap, I can tell you that certain states have emergency funds in their budgets, mostly in Republican states like Virginia, but places like Maryland, Their states are bankrupt thanks to DEI funding. And because money is fungible, the concern is the feds will send money to the states for these benefits. So let's say California's got a million bucks, and they go, crap, we have to use this million dollars for. For welfare benefits. Otherwise people will revolt. They then say, hey, Fed, we. We. We're broke. We need money. The Fed says, okay, we're going to send you a million dollars. The state then goes, that million dollars will take and give for benefits, and the million dollars we were going to spend, we'll take and spend on illegal immigrants or something.
B
Well, yeah, exactly. This is one of those tricky things Planned Parenthood used to do where they'd go like, oh, we don't spend any of the federal funding we get on abortion. It's like the federal funds free up your resources. So you're able to do horrible things like that.
C
Yeah, yeah.
E
And they did horrible things.
B
Yes, without a doubt, without question. I mean, their whole model is killing babies.
D
Text Ray says Tim Burchett, the congressman from Tennessee, makes skateboards from bamboo. Y' all should collab. Actually, we wanted to do a Riley Moore and Tim Burchett a Congressional Team series. So I don't know what the rules are because they're members of Congress. I think as long as they don't get anything from it so that, like, we can just Make a Riley Moore congressional pro model and a Tim Burchett pro model. Riley Moore. Actually, I would estimate that as a young man, he was probably a top tier skateboarder. Now he's in his 40s and he's a dad and member of Congress. He still skates. He did a kick flip on the bank here. Probably the only member of Congress who can do a kickflip.
B
He should run on that.
C
He's so humble about it. Because remember, Oron was like, he's Kate.
D
Remember Beto's opposer?
E
Yes, yes, that's right.
B
How could I forget Beto?
D
So when, when I watched Beto ride the board, he clearly like, guys, okay, Real skateboarders know when some, like you can tell someone's level of skateboard skill by how they carry themselves when they're riding or holding the board. It really is just that, that obviously. And when Beto jumped on the board, every skateboard in the world were like, that guy can't skate.
B
Well, you gotta remember, like, with skating you can be really good when, when you're young, but if you're a woman, it just gets harder as you get older. That was an attack on Beto o' Rourke's masculinity.
D
Oh, yeah, you're calling him a woman? I thought, I thought, I thought you were going to keep going. I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
B
That was it.
D
All right, let's see what else we got. Nathan o' Connell says Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. Anyone overweight should immediately lose their benefits. Benefits. And those continuing to receive them. Those funds should be for uncooked meats, fruits and vegetables. Agreed. I'm not kidding. You want free stuff. Okay, I'm gonna say it again. I received EBT when I lived in Seattle and I received unemployment when I lived in Chicago. And if they said you can't be overweight, I'd be like, okay. Somebody shows up and they're morbidly obese, and it's like, I need food money. It's like, are. Do you. No, because. Because what people need to understand what's really kind of crazy about being overweight is that you have to continually eat to maintain the fat.
B
That weight. That's right. Yeah.
D
If. So, let's. If you are. If you are fat, let's say you're, you know, like may. The fat itself has a caloric requirement.
E
Absolutely.
D
So let's say you're 100 pounds overweight because you eat too much. If you then go back to eating a normal amount, the fat will just burn off and slowly be consumed because it can't sustain itself. So this is the crazy thing. When you see someone morbidly obese, it means that they're eating in excess to maintain the excess of their bodies. They could literally just go back to eating a normal meal and they drop a mass amount of wend.
B
This is another huge part of this concern with SNAP being used to purchase processed junk foods is that we end up spending countless millions, hundreds of millions on healthcare benefits. Exactly. It's insanely expensive. So we spend welfare money feeding people poison and then they end up being a burden on our healthcare system. And not only do we spend money on that, but it actually drives health care costs up for everyone else because the system can only ration with the price point.
C
Point.
D
Let's see. Educated hillbilly says SNAP should be distributed like the ration stamps during World War II. It should make folks think about their choices, their budgets and whether you want the government telling you what you can buy. I got a better idea. No more EBT gone permanently across the board. Look at the federal level what they can do. The states do their own thing, but replace the program with stores instead will have a. Certain individuals will be able to pick up a bag bag. And when you go to the store and you're receiving food benefits, it is a, a quart of milk, a loaf of bread, some eggs and butter and maybe some flour and salt. And they say I get the brick.
E
Of cheese in there, the five pound block of cheese. You got to be in that.
D
Those are the days, man. Yeah, the government cheese.
E
Yeah, gotta have that.
D
Government literally sent people cheese.
E
Yeah.
D
Amazing.
C
Yeah. They used to like when they would like when they, when like welfare proper country.
E
I just like that. It's a brick of cheese.
D
That's right.
E
I mean that's. I'm in favor of bricks.
D
Government cheese, baby.
C
That was like when like welfare was first introduced is they would literally just put a crate on your, on your porch that just said eight on it. And it created this like huge shame. Like there was a lot of shame of like your neighbors would see just a craze, an 8 on it. Like oh wow, the Johnsons aren't doing so well.
D
When I, when I lived in Seattle there were, there was a food bank in my neighborhood. And the way it worked is you'd go in and they'd have a bag, a brown paper bag and they would put a can of beans about a small little thing of flour, a loaf of bread and like some milk and that was it. They also had, they assumed you could cook.
C
Yeah.
E
People wouldn't know what to do with.
D
No, no, no. I. I think. I think their attitude is largely, eat what you can eat flour.
E
What do you do with that?
C
Yeah.
D
But they actually had. This was in. This was in the. This is the Ballard Food Bank. I think it was at the library, actually. They had. At any point, you could walk in and there was a whole shelf of bread. You could just walk up and grab a loaf and walk out. And it's because their attitude was like their bakeries, that when the day old bread gets tossed, they put it in the food bank for an extra day or two to see if it's better than going to a landfill.
E
Yep.
D
And people seem to be generally okay with it.
C
Yeah.
D
The issue, however, I'll tell you this, because I knew some people in Seattle, they would. They had a calendar of all the food banks of what days?
C
Yeah.
D
And they would just go to every different food bank every day and stock up their refrigerators and everything. And, you know, my attitude with that is the food was always, like, near expiration and donated. So I really have a problem with it. The food banks collected food and then gave it out to people who wanted it. And it's. It seemed to work for them instead of just throwing it out. In Chicago, they get a lot of the. The hippies are pissed because, like, there will be a bakery and they'll throw away all their. All their breads at the end of the day and then padlock the dumpster to make sure nobody eats it. And it's just like, I understand the capitalistic need to be like, you can't have free stuff, but come on, man. I remember when I was, like, 16, me and my friends went to a Burger King, and it was like, just at 11 or whatever, breakfast was ending. And we walked in and we were like, you still have breakfast? And the guy's like, nah, you could have it all. And then he had, like, a bunch of sandwiches. He's like, there you go. It's garbage.
B
And we were like, yeah, that's awesome.
D
Yeah.
C
When I lived in Manhattan, like, I was not making Manhattan money. So there was this app. They need to pay us to plug it. But it would basically, all these restaurants, like, at the end of the day, the food they just had to offload. They would list it on this app and just be a bag of, like, random stuff. And that's how I, like, was able to eat. Wow. Because I would just. It'd be like five bucks, and you get a bag, and that's like, two or three days worth. Worth the food. And then the process. You try a restaurant that would be out of your price point. And. Yeah, that. And then, yeah, in college, the Burger King on campus, like, I would go right before closing, and I would just order a fry, and then they would just fill the pack up with all the fries. And then I'd take it back, and I'd be like, guys, I got us. I'm feeding us all tonight.
B
That's awesome.
C
Thousand calories worth of fries.
D
When I first moved to Seattle, my brother and I had a big thing of change. And we went to a gas station and we were gonna. I was like. They had breakfast sandwiches for like a $29. And so I was like, I'm really sorry about this, but I got a bunch of nickels, pennies, and dimes. And I started counting them out. I was like. And the guy was like, oh, bro, it's. It's. Breakfast is over. We're gonna toss them. Just take the sandwiches. I don't want the change. And I was like, let's get it.
C
Yeah.
D
You know, super cool.
C
Yeah.
D
David Cassidy says, hopefully you've seen the series, but Farscape had an episode. The biggest industry was lawyers. Life there was over. Political and law was the weapon. There's also a movie with James Mars that I think is in it and a bunch of celebrities. Do you know which one is this movie I'm talking about where it's like, the guy goes on a road trip? What's that movie? Do you. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
B
The guy goes on a road trip, and it's a bunch of celebrities. Is that the one where they're smuggling drugs?
D
No, no. It was maybe the guy who did Back to the Future, but he. He finds himself in a town where everyone's lawyers and they're all suing each other. Interstate 60. That's what it's called.
B
That's hilarious.
D
Yeah, Gary Oldman's in it, and it's about. What is it that Gary Oldman plays? A genie or something? What is this genre? Road Trip.
E
I have honestly never heard of this film.
D
Yeah, Gary Oldman, he plays a fake folk genie who is the devil, I guess, or something made by the same guy who made Back to the Future. And what is it? It. OW Grant. Yeah. One Wish grant. Yeah, very clever. And then he tricks people. And so it's like, the movie is really goofy. It's like a cult classic now, because no one ever actually liked it, but there's like a. A scene where this old guy eats like 13 entrees and it's because he wished he could eat more because he loved trying all the different food. And so the evil genie guy made it so that he has to eat non stop forever.
B
Oh no.
D
It's a weird movie. Anyway guys, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show@rumble.com timcast irl so smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Make sure you go to you go to boonies hq.com pick up your J the Jason Ellis board. I think there's like 10 left if if like less than that. Cody Max the the limited edition boards are selling out super quick. It's really amazing. Check it out. Follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast and Brixie. You want to shout anything out?
E
Yeah, the only shout out I've got is if you're in California or Pennsylvania or Virginia or New Jersey. Get out and vote. Don't sit on your butt. Get out and vote.
C
That's right. Yeah. You can follow me on X and Instagram at realtate Brown and yes, go vote. Especially New Jersey. It's razor tight. Get out there. Let's go.
B
I'm Seamus Coughlin. I'm the creator of Freedom Tunes. We've made hundreds of animated videos. The left owns entertainment. A lot of the stuff the right is trying to make is cheesy and not very good unfortunately. That's why myself and my team with a proven track record of making entertaining content are stepping out into making a full length animated show. It's called Twisted Plots. It's an anthology series and the right wing message comes out through storytelling and jokes instead of ham fisted monologues or preaching. If you want to help us beat Hollywood, we've only got three weeks left to get this totally funded. If you want to help us compete against Hollywood, go to Twisted Plot. Support the cause. We're going to make entertaining content. It's going to be the future of conservative content.
D
And and if you would see.
B
If you would see as I see as Tim says.
D
So anyway, calm we last Friday we did a pre record. We pre recorded the show a few hours early and then aired at the normal time and it actually worked ridiculously well. It allowed us to do this VIP backstage for the Discord community. So we had about 110 people listening to the whole pre production process where we're goofing off and pulling up stories and then the full show. So it actually turns it into basically a three hour version of the show for our Discord members and it works so well. We're gonna try it again this Friday and see if it is something that works for you guys. Here's the thing about Fridays. News typically dies off in the afternoon and then when we do the show late at night live. The thing about Friday is that around half the people who watch the Friday episodes are watching Saturday morning, Sunday morning and Monday morning morning. Because it's Friday night, everyone wants to go out and party. So for us we were like, it makes more sense than to pre record when the news is hot, upload at the normal time. But people largely just watch over the weekend as it is for Friday. So it frees up time for us a 0.01% security benefit, but not super, you know, you know, beneficial. But that's. We're going to try this Friday as well. Which means if you go to timcast.com click join us, get in the Discord server. Friday at around 1 o' clock, we go live for the Discord members behind the scenes backstage for the pre production of Tim Cast irl hear us talk to our guests, goofing off, picking stories. And then when we go to super chats for Friday, it's actually your comments from the Discord community. So check it out. Thanks Frank and everybody and we'll see you all over@rumble.com Timcast IRL.
Date: October 28, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Brick Suit, Shane Cashman, Tate Brown, Seamus Coughlin
This episode tackles the looming crisis over the potential cutoff of SNAP (food stamp) benefits, slated for November 1st, as the U.S. government shutdown drags on. Host Tim Pool and guests discuss the possible ramifications—food riots, economic destabilization, political fallout, and whether this “economic nuclear detonation” might allow Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act to restore order. The conversation weaves economic analysis, political strategy, social commentary, and a dystopian look forward, covering the SNAP issue, societal dependency on welfare, urban vulnerability, AI, and speculations about future civil unrest.
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"If 42 million people can’t buy food all at the same time … it is going to be a snapback tsunami in the economy across the board. ... I don’t know how they let this happen." — Tim Pool [12:54]
"It’s an incredibly low margin business because … people need to eat. ... Any interruption … is going to just trickle back up and it's going to be hard to get that engine started again." — Brick Suit [12:54, 14:01]
"Welfare is a feedback jammer … the signs a society sends to itself … get jammed with welfare and you’re not able to actually address these issues." — Tate Brown [16:08]
"There’s no way [churches] could be ready, not for this number of people." — Seamus [17:20]
"Your government has created a heroin addiction for your country. ... We cannot continue to inject ourselves with an addictive drug that is burning us to the ground." — Tim Pool [32:26]
"If 1% of [SNAP recipients] … start smashing up grocery stores and stealing stuff, robbing people in the parking lots—it's gonna get absolutely insane." — Tim Pool [25:00]
“Not having it run out cold turkey is just not a good situation. ... It's going to be cheaper to keep it funded than to initiate the cure if violence breaks out.” — Brick Suit [31:29]
"I think the government has incentivized this situation with single parents. ... They've married these people to the government and now they need this unrung." — Shane Cashman [18:47]
"Ultimately, SNAP is … a band-aid on a bullet hole wound." — Tate Brown [37:22]
"No politician's ever going to tell you the truth ... this is a fast track to the collapse of your society. Your children will inherit a pile of ashes." — Tim Pool [33:37]
"If social order really did break down ... you’d have like three days before people in New York were drinking each other’s blood. You think I'm exaggerating?" — Tim Pool [49:45]
"We developed ourselves out of our ability to survive without these tools that we've made." — Tim Pool [54:16]
"Our economy has been hit with multiple new inventions ... there's a very real question of whether society can sustain it." — Seamus [56:05]
"Your option is keep it for all 42 million as normal or shut it off. ... I'm for cut off." — Tim Pool [32:01]
The episode delivers a bracing, fast-moving dissection of the SNAP crisis as emblematic of broader American decline—economically, culturally, and politically. The roundtable remains torn between the moral imperative of avoiding mass suffering in the present and the literal impossibility of an endless welfare state. Across their exchanges, there is both unease and gallows humor as the hosts and guests project what happens when a nation’s social contract frays and its economic order unravels—wondering aloud whether anyone, especially in politics, will ever force a reckoning before the system collapses under its own weight.
Much of the episode continues with super chats, audience Q&A and sponsor plugs after the main thematic arc concludes. For those interested in the policy, social, and economic ramifications of a welfare cliff and government dysfunction—in unvarnished language—this episode is essential.