GOP Rep Says IRAN Flying Drones Via Mothership Over NJ, Pentagon DENIES w/Ryan Girdusky

Summary

Timcast IRL Podcast Episode Summary Title: GOP Rep Says IRAN Flying Drones Via Mothership Over NJ, Pentagon DENIES w/Ryan Grudusky
Host: Tim Pool, Timcast Media
Release Date: December 12, 2024

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1. Mystery Drones Over New Jersey

Tim Pool [00:08]:
The episode opens with Tim Pool addressing the alarming reports of large, SUV-sized drones flying over New Jersey and Delaware. He highlights GOP Representative Jeff Van Drew's assertion that these drones originate from an Iranian mothership stationed off the East Coast. Pool emphasizes the potential threat posed to high-profile figures like Donald Trump, who resides near these areas.

Key Discussion Points:

• Iranian Involvement: Rep. Van Drew claims high-level sources confirm Iran is behind the drone incursions, utilizing a mothership to deploy these sizable UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles).
• Pentagon Denial: The Pentagon firmly denies any Iranian activity related to these drone sightings, casting doubt on Rep. Van Drew's statements.
• Public Reaction: Pool notes public anxiety ranges from theories about extraterrestrial origins to fears of government overreach.

Notable Quote:
Tim Pool [00:35]: “These are flying Escalades, okay? Not literally, but massive vehicles flying at low altitude over urban areas. And people are like, what is going on?”

2. Technical Feasibility and Military Response

Ryan Grudusky [04:45]:
Grudusky questions the Pentagon's capabilities to address the drone threat, especially considering the drones' size and potential autonomy.

Tim Pool [05:20]:
Pool explains that these drones, being autonomous and pre-programmed, lack the reliance on GPS or wireless data, making them difficult to intercept using conventional jamming techniques.

Discussion Highlights:

• Autonomy of Drones: The drones likely operate on pre-set flight paths, minimizing external communication vulnerabilities.
• Military Countermeasures: Suggestions include deploying laser-based defense systems and enhancing radar capabilities to detect and neutralize these threats.

Notable Quote:
Phil Labonte [08:11]: “People are so used to the small drones that they see the ones that you can fly and own personally and stuff. You forget that the first drones were the Global Hawk and the drones over Afghanistan that could carry hellfire missiles.”

3. Malicious Prosecution Lawsuit by Daniel Penny

Tim Pool [10:00]:
The conversation shifts to Daniel Penny, who is contemplating a malicious prosecution lawsuit following his acquittal in the death of Jordan Neely. Penny asserts that the prosecution was biased from the outset.

Key Points:

• Legal Recourse: Discussion on the challenges Penny might face in suing District Attorney Alvin Bragg and the medical examiner’s office, given potential protective immunities.
• Public Perception: The episode touches on the broader implications of prosecutorial bias and the impact on individuals who self-defense actions lead to tragic outcomes.

Notable Quote:
Ryan Grudusky [10:06]: “If Iran was having weaponized drones fly over New Jersey, they're not going to say, yeah, panic. And they're going to say, don't worry about anything. That's probably what they would do.”

4. Health Insurance CEOs Targeted by Activists

Tim Pool [24:23]:
A significant portion of the episode delves into the New York Post's report on wanted posters targeting health insurance CEOs. These posters blame executives like Brian Thompson for denying life claims and incite threats against other industry leaders.

Discussion Points:

• Activist Vandalism: The use of wanted posters as direct calls for violence against perceived injustices within the health insurance sector.
• Legal Implications: Debate on whether these acts constitute legitimate criminal threats, potentially subjecting perpetrators to legal action.

Notable Quote:
Tim Pool [24:31]: “These posters are a direct call for violence against executives in the health insurance industry.”

5. Caitlin Clark's Admission of White Privilege

Tim Pool [37:00]:
The episode highlights Caitlin Clark, a WNBA star, who publicly acknowledged her white privilege, sparking significant backlash. Pool criticizes the reaction, suggesting it reflects broader societal tensions around race and privilege.

Key Points:

• Public Backlash: Clark faces severe criticism from various quarters, including conservative circles, for her remarks.
• Cultural Division: The incident exemplifies the deep political and cultural divisions, particularly in sports, where athletes are increasingly expected to take political stances.

Notable Quote:
Tim Pool [37:20]: “She got featured on Time magazine as athlete of the year. And then because she’s a target, she immediately pulls this, please, please, leftists don’t beat me up anymore.”

6. CNN’s Declining Ratings vs. Competitors

Tim Pool [65:39]:
Tim Pool discusses the stark decline in CNN’s ratings, noting that it has fallen below channels like the Food Network and Hallmark. This trend follows the political shifts and the aftermath of Trump’s election.

Discussion Highlights:

• Media Landscape Shifts: The fragmentation of media consumption, with audiences moving towards decentralized platforms like YouTube.
• Competitive Pressure: Traditional news networks are struggling to maintain viewership amidst changing viewer preferences and the rise of independent media channels.

Notable Quote:
Tim Pool [66:19]: “Fox News in comparison had 280,000 view viewers during the key demo. And that’s pretty nuts because we as well as a lot of other shows are absolutely crushing that.”

7. Future of Independent Media and Corporate Influence

Tim Pool [71:18]:
The conversation transitions to concerns about corporate giants like Comcast potentially dominating the YouTube space, which could marginalize independent creators and conservative voices.

Key Points:

• Demonetization Threats: Fear that large corporations may buy into YouTube and manipulate the platform to favor their interests, sidelining independent and diverse voices.
• Sustainability of Independent Shows: The pressure on independent podcasters to compete with well-funded networks for visibility and revenue on major platforms.

Notable Quote:
Tim Pool [73:40]: “I believe strongly when they’re talking about Murdoch, the Murdoch family wanted to be in the podcasting space and Disney Comcast may nuke MSNBC. But what that really means is they’re going to come to the space right now and you’ve heard the liberal channels on YouTube screaming, why aren’t we getting funding from this?”

8. Social Media Influence and Public Perception

Tim Pool [94:01]:
Discussions revolve around how urban liberal individuals, often unacquainted with practical survival skills, misunderstand everyday tasks and nature, reflecting a disconnect between city living and rural realities.

Discussion Points:

• Survival Skills Gap: The lack of basic outdoor and self-sufficiency skills among urban populations, leading to unrealistic perceptions of preparedness.
• Cultural Divide: How differing lifestyles between urban liberals and rural conservatives contribute to misunderstandings and stereotyping.

Notable Quote:
Tim Pool [95:14]: “It’s not meant to be disrespectful. It’s that they think preparation is required for a lot of these foods. No, you just break it open and eat it.”

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Conclusion

This episode of Timcast IRL navigates through a myriad of pressing contemporary issues, from national security concerns over alleged Iranian drone activities to societal debates on privilege, media integrity, and cultural divides. Tim Pool, alongside guest Ryan Grudusky and others, provides a critical examination of these topics, emphasizing the importance of independent media voices in an increasingly polarized and corporatized information landscape.

Final Notable Quote:
Tim Pool [122:50]: “We will see you all [e-mail] in about one minute. Thanks for hanging out.”

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Note: This summary intentionally omits advertisement segments and non-content discussions to focus solely on the substantive topics covered in the episode.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

Mystery drones over New Jersey. And I gotta tell you, one of the reasons why this story hasn't been getting more attention, despite the fact that it's getting quite a bit of attention, is that they're just saying drones when they should be saying flying SUVs. And you start telling people that in New Jersey There are flying SUVs everywhere and no one knows where they're coming from, people might start freaking out. Some people think they're aliens. I think that's silly, though. One can hope, actually. No, I certainly don't hope so because aliens will be doing who knows what. But GOP Rep. Jeff Van Drew says that it's Iran, that Iran launched some kind of mothership off the east coast, which is dispatching these SUV sized drones to fly over New Jersey and Delaware. Which is rather scary if you think about what that means because Trump lives near there. He's in Mar a Lago most of the time, but he's got Bedminster. And there's concerns about what Iran wants to do to Donald Trump. Now the Pentagon is saying, no, no, no, it's not the case, but we will, we'll talk about that. Plus we got Daniel Penny threatening a lawsuit, malicious prosecution. And he's correct because does anybody know the name of the other guy that held down Jordan Neely? I bet you don't. But we will tell you and we'll talk all about it. And then Caitlin Clark is getting roasted because she said that like I don't know what. She's succeeding because of her white privilege. Fine, whatever. And then I guess chatgpt is alive. It's lying to its creators to try and survive or something like that. Sounds fun. December is always the slowest of news months, my friend. So it is what it is. Before we get started, head over to castbrew.com and buy cast Brew Coffee. And ladies and gentlemen, do I got news for you. If you become a member [e-mail] right now, you will get a special code that gives you 15% off all cast Brew forever. Forever. So become a [e-mail], head over to cast brew.com and you can buy Cast Brew coffee. Everyone loves Appalachian nights. It's just it's the best but still stand your grounds is pretty good as well. Then of course you can also go to boonies hq.com and if you are an individual that believes bears should be wearing flannel shirts, hats and bearing shotguns, then the right to arm bears is the skateboard for you. It's a particularly cool Graphic. It's silly and I love it. And then we have a couple others. Johnny Haynes, pro skateboarder. He has a wonderful, prideful gay frog skateboard. If you want to celebrate the love between these two gay frogs which appear to be drinking some kind of pesticide of sorts, perhaps atrazine. I don't. Under a rainbow. And the Johnny Haynes gay frog pro model is. Is the board for you. So don't forget to head over to timcast.com click join us. Become a member to support our work directly. And you can hang out for that members only show where we will be taking your calls as members. So you definitely want to get involved in that, right? Don't forget to smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ryan Gruduski.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Thank you for having me, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, absolutely. Who are you? What do you do?

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's a great question. I ask myself in the mirror every day. I'm a political consultant formerly seen on cnn and I have. I have a podcast coming out in January on the I Heart Network, I Heart Radio Network called It's a Numbers Game with Ryan Grdusky. Right on.

[Tim Pool]

And it should. They should be fun.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, it should be good. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

We got Raymond hanging out.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Hey, friends.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Hey friends. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Here. USMC vet and blue collar bully. Hey, Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Ryan didn't tell you, but he is actually a beeper salesman.

[Tim Pool]

I was gonna wait to say I.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Have to do something better in my life where that can't be the only thing I'm known for. I have to figure out something else to do.

[Phil Labonte]

Dude, it was great.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, I know.

[Phil Labonte]

To be proud of.

[Tim Pool]

We do have a story. CNN is losing in the writings to the Food Network. But that's. And you'll get into it. But I don't want to drag CNN over this because the Food Network's awesome.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Everyone loves food.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Dude, come on.

[Tim Pool]

Watching someone make a good lasagna, that's.

[Phil Labonte]

Actually a really good point.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Like they have like the Christmas baking time right now. Oh, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Food is universal to human beings. Like not everybody cares about the news.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not going to blame CNN for that one. But we'll talk about it. So let's jump to this, this story here, the one that is the most shocking. The New York Post reports mystery New Jersey drones are coming from Iranian Mothership offshore. Congressman suggests, quote, should be shut down. Holy crap. No, that would be catastrophic. They shouldn't be allowed to fly over New Jersey in the United States. But I just want to stress he didn't suggest it. He literally said, I have high level sources who are telling me this is Iran doing this. Now that's kind of scary. If it's true, I don't know that I believe it because we're going to need some, I don't know, better sourcing. But the Pentagon has come out and outright said, nah, this is not true.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey? It's near sensitive installations, the FBI is involved. What is the Pentagon doing?

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to pause real quick and just stress, guys. These are not just drones. They are the size of SUVs. These are flying Escalades. Okay. Not literally, but massive vehicles flying at low altitude over these urban areas. And people are like, what is going on? And apparently there's been 3,000 reports to the federal government about. So it doesn't mean 3,000 drones, but people are seeing these things all over the place.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Is the Mothership the suv or are they all of them?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no. There's a ship off the east coast that's launching SUV sized drones.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. Which is, I mean, that's a big Runway. I have one thing to point out. If they were flying saucers and they crossed the whole universe and they ended up in New Jersey.

[Phil Labonte]

You'Ve already made.

[Ryan Gruduski]

How already made disappointed would you be as an alien, especially up north, Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Or outside.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right. Exactly. Like you're in Newark and you're like, I got to get out of here.

[Tim Pool]

Like this Is this what humanity has?

[Ryan Gruduski]

This Exactly. This is not a great place. Like let's leave.

[Tim Pool]

For that matter. If it is Iran, what are they doing in Newark?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, there's a lot of chemical and is a nuclear plants up there too. There's a lot of chemical, a lot of trash.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's all I know.

[Ryan Gruduski]

There's a ton of chemical plants up in northern North.

[Tim Pool]

Well, maybe that's why the aliens would come there too.

[Ryan Gruduski]

For what? They would have their own chemicals?

[Tim Pool]

Well, to take out our chemical production, I guess.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I mean, Iran would I. Well, Iran, Iran makes more sense than aliens going to like Delaware to see like Joe Biden like nude bathe on like the beach.

[Tim Pool]

Actually, I, I disagree. That's one thing the aliens probably would do to study humans and be like, let's see what their leader does.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Imagine that, yeah, they see Joe Biden, he's like, doesn't know where he is. He's stumbling.

[Tim Pool]

They're definitely.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And they're like, listen, we're not going to this country anymore, this place anymore. This is, this is the strongest of them. We're going to, you know, bypass the planet.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it is silly, but the scariest thought is if aliens did come to Earth and then said we're going to choose a nation that we believe is the strongest we should communicate with for treaties, and they came to the United States and saw Biden, they'd look at each other and be like, let's try Russia.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean I can't imagine them not being like they picked this guy. Do they actually have a say in who, who chooses? You know, that's exactly, that's true though.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That is really true. Or if they went to like the wrong place, like Mozambique and they're like, whoa, like this is, we are in the wrong place.

[Tim Pool]

You know? You know, one could imagine they would go to where the lights are.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right? That's true.

[Tim Pool]

But that's assuming they have, they have eyes that can see light as we see light.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Well, we know they don't.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Or heat, they'd admit. With heat. I guess I can feel. I have no idea. I don't really think about aliens that often.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think this is aliens.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't think.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sure it's Iranians. But then the question is, what is it and why would Jeff Andrew say it was Iranian and they should shoot these things down?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, can't they? Isn't it possible? And I know nothing about like how to destroy a drone besides like obviously shooting it. But can't they like jam it or I guess it would maybe affect the planes too.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you could, but you need to, you need information on the drone and to understand how it's being controlled. If it's pre programmed flight, then you probably can't do anything.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I feel like we have the technology to do that though, don't we?

[Tim Pool]

For one, these drones, drones in general don't need GPS or wireless data to fly in a path. It can be pre programmed internally and it can measure its own speed and distance.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Even the size of a Subaru.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, especially if it's the size of a Subaru.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. People are so used to the small drones that they see the ones that you can fly and own personally and stuff. You forget that the first drones that you knew about were the Global Hawk and the drones over Afghanistan that could carry hellfire missiles and fire. That was the first, first exposure to any kind of military drone at least. I mean there are, there are big, big drones. There's, there are drones that look like, at least the US has drones that look like stealth aircraft or they have stealth characteristics and stuff. If it is Iran, I think that the US should be, you know, the, the Coast Guard should be patrolling the.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Waters off our coast like a ship large enough to house a ton of drones and get it that close to the, I mean is it in the middle of the ocean or is it close to New Jersey?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know what the rang. Yeah, the.

[Tim Pool]

The. Or Jeff Andrew is wrong.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Or Jeff Andrew is wrong. Which is, I mean he does represent Southern Jersey, so. Right.

[Tim Pool]

And, and he used to be a Democrat.

[Ryan Gruduski]

He was a Democrat. He was, he's the only Republican with a like a plus rating from like the pro abortion people because he's still very liberal on social issues. He's. But he wins by landslides. They do love him in South Jersey. But I mean it's Kate May.

[Tim Pool]

So yeah, they say he stands by his statements. But as I mentioned, I just want to play the last little bit of this.

[Ryan Gruduski]

About a month ago that contains these drones and that that month.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Representative Jeff Van Drew, who is a Republican from New Jersey was just on the air saying that Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones and that that mothership is off the coast of the east coast of the United States. Is there any truth to that? There is not any truth to that. There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States and there's.

[Tim Pool]

No so called mothership launching drones towards the United States. Do we believe them?

[Phil Labonte]

No, I think that the military generally doesn't want to give the public information about anything that's going on ever. Because.

[Tim Pool]

Correct.

[Phil Labonte]

The government, the government likes you know, to over classify things anyways. They like to control what information is out and there is legitimacy to the, to the desire because the more the government, the military can control the information that whatever opposing force has, the more they can control the information they get, the better position the US military is in.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, I mean they wouldn't be honest, I don't think. I mean, listen, if Iran was like having weaponized drones fly over New Jersey, they're not going to be like, yeah, panic. And they were going to be like, all right, you know, don't worry about anything. I mean that's probably what they would do.

[Tim Pool]

It does kind of Seem to make sense to me that Jeff Andrew is talking with someone in the know who says this. Not expecting Van Drew to go on TV and just go, they just told me this thing. And then the military is like, stop. No. And. And so what a lot of people need to understand is the US Military, there are times where we get attacked. They don't tell you because the US Wants to control the narrative as to what our strength is. And when we engage, right, they. When the US Says several of our troops were just bombed by Iran, they're basically saying we need public support for retaliation or some kind of incursion.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Remember those Chinese balloons are flying all over the West Coast United States, and they were like, oh, it's nothing. Don't worry about it. And I'm like, oh, I kind of.

[Phil Labonte]

Chalked that up to just like incompetent or not. Maybe incompetence by the Biden administration. But look, I think that. I think anything that violates the US Air, US Airspace, if it can't identify itself, the US has every right and probably should shoot it down.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

Because the size of bombs and things like that, you don't need a massive. Especially when you're dealing with stuff that's the size of a car.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And like, New Jersey is the most densely populated state in the country. If they have a, you know, Christmas holiday season, they could just, like, literally, if they forget about blowing up a chemist, if they blew up a bridge, like, they would lock down literally, the most populated city with the most densely populated state in the blink of an eye. So it doesn't. I mean, they don't have to. I mean, I'm saying I don't know if they're weaponized. I don't know if it's Iran, but I feel like if you downed one and there was like, you know, Iranian, like, language and print or whatever, like, made in Tehran on the side of it, you'd be like, oh, okay, I kind of know who this is now.

[Phil Labonte]

I do think that it makes sense to shoot him down. I mean, Raymond, you're the. You're a military guy. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Implications if it's going to go ahead and shoot it down over, like, populated lands.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I think they should have a helicopter out there. I don't know why they. They don't have a helicopter after track tracking them, see where they go. If it's actually a threat. Why. Why are they not Someone in there, Apache in the air following them.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They shot down our drones. Remember, under. Under Trump they were running and shut down Americans and we didn't retaliate at all.

[Tim Pool]

They were like the thing to consider about shooting down these SUV sized drones is first what happens when it falls out of the sky and what does it land on? That's the obvious one. The next one is where do your bullets go?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there. It's true. If you're dealing with bullets, you. I think that if they're the size that we're talking about, they are the size of a car. They should have a radar signature. You know, I don't know how do they miss them? Yeah, you could, you could see them while they're over the, the ocean still. If they're coming from the ocean.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

If that's the argument again, I don't know.

[Ryan Gruduski]

There's no. On the beach. Well, not.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, you can still shoot them out while they're over the air, right?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

And I do think that this is an argument for in the future the US should be looking to. I know that there's talk, there's, there's efforts to create like laser anti air stuff that's not missiles and stuff because shooting a missile is expensive. What's a Javelin's like a hundred thousand dollars per shot or whatever.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's, that's pennies in our. Maybe under the new Elon Musk Doge, we won't be spending that kind of money. But that's nothing.

[Phil Labonte]

It is. But if you have, if you have a laser, like lasers are faster to track. They can, they can target stuff. Ostensibly the theory is that they.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Dr. Evil Laser.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, they can shoot down. Well, they have, they have lasers on ships now.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, I know.

[Phil Labonte]

And so if you had that kind of stuff they can shoot down. Like there's all this talk about hypersonic missiles which are just ICBMs or whatever. If you can track and shoot those down, I mean that's, that's a, that's a worthwhile.

[Ryan Gruduski]

How many drones was it? Because it's not 3,000 drones, it's 3,000 sightings.

[Tim Pool]

So you know people one time.

[Ryan Gruduski]

One time. That's a good question too. And I think it's dozens. That's.

[Tim Pool]

Or a dozen.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's a lot.

[Tim Pool]

There are photos where you can see there's like several in the air at one time.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean look at the way, the.

[Tim Pool]

Way to take them down out of the sky is you want to wait for them to go over a much sparsely populated area and then you want to drop a net onto the rotors depending on if that's what they're using to fly. I'm assuming these are rotor based drones, but I could be wrong. And if they are more like small jets, then you've got a bigger issue. But they've got to be brought down. They could probably easily hack them. And I say easily, I don't mean anybody could just do it, but anybody with the skills could figure this out. There is also the I would find this interesting is they may not actually be wireless. They I would imagine because of what the US already saw with the drone getting hacked and brought down. This technology has been updated. And although many of these drones are going to be wireless and remote controlled, some of them will be pre programmed. So we've had this technology forever. You can put in the GPS coordinates in a drone, it'll identify where it's at. You can then deactivate its gps. But it knows how far and fast it's going and it has an internal map. So it can track on a map and follow a route, come back with. With no external communications that you're not going to hack.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's why you need to shoot it down.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I did see a lot of them, they have lights on them. So if they're trying, if they're irate.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, go ahead.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I was, yeah, go ahead. I can say if they're adversary, why are there lights? Why can we see them in the sky?

[Tim Pool]

And it's been as part of this report is that when people take note of them and begin pointing, filming and staring, the lights shut off.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

We have video of them with lights on. Correct?

[Tim Pool]

Right. So the. You have to. I'll tell you a story, man. My, my buddy was in a conflict zone reporting and he said that he like a simplified version of it. He went to his hotel room and his computer was open and he was like, okay, well my computer is always shut off, turned off, locked. It was open and the, and the desktop was open like someone had logged in. They want you to know they did that. The only reason why intel guys, or you know, whatever you want to call them, the only reason why they would forget to leave your laptop to close your laptop is because when you come back, they want you to know they were in your room and they had done this.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, yeah, I mean if you're Iran and you could get into the interior of the United States, that is pretty. For anyone, I mean not even just Iran, China, anybody, Russia, whoever. That's pretty freaking crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

To your point about China, like, or you bring up China like the fact that China flew a balloon over that made it literally over the whole country multiple times. I think that if. If it is Iran, I imagine this is, you know, China in. You know.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Do you know how many dumbass zoomers probably took selfies with the balloon in the background? Like, look how beautiful that is. Like, this is such a great moment for Instagra Instagram. That balloons in like 75 million different Instagram shots of this.

[Tim Pool]

This. We'll read one more super chat before we jump. Jump over. But mechanical. Mechanical mercenary says they are manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing. Can't shoot our own pilots down.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, he us.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I think a strong possibility that it's US based, but I don't know why they'd be flying over densely populated New Jersey urban areas. You know what I mean?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. As testing stuff out there. We have plenty of landing to test out these.

[Tim Pool]

These. Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And she would just say it's a routine. Yeah, whatever. She would just say it's something else. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

And if they're. If they're testing, that's what. That's what the Area 51 is for. Because. Yeah, over the desert, there's not a.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Lot of tons of land with nobody living on.

[Phil Labonte]

It's like, sure, there's people that are watching.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And we own 75 million islands in the middle of the Pacific. If there's no one living on whatever, there's a bunch of islands.

[Tim Pool]

The Mojave Desert is ripe for flying weird things. That's why they have the spaceport out there.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes. I don't think they would fly over New Jersey. I don't think they were like, you know what? Let's go crazy. Newark.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's bring it back to earth with this story from the Post. Millennial wanted posters calling for violence against health insurance CEOs spotted in New York some. There's a quote, brian Thompson was denied his claim to life. Who will be denied next? Look at. This is crazy. TikTok. Tiktoker the barbecue lady shared a video this week showing wanted posters for health insurance CEOs plastered all over Manhattan. They say, deny, defend, depose. When the rich rob the poor, it's called business. When the poor fight back, it's called violence. Says the. Says the one for murdered. Oh, says the poster for murdered healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. A suspect in Thompson's murder was arrested. This we know. The poster shows his photo with a red X through it. It blames Thompson, not his killer, for his death and issues threats to other executives with Optum Health and United Healthcare. These posters are a direct call for violence against executives in the health insurance industry. Here's a question. Do you think if someone was caught putting these up, they could be arrested and charged?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Not.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, not.

[Tim Pool]

I, I'm not asking about. I'm saying under the law. Is this a violation of the law?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Do they, do they call for death? Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What do they say on if they.

[Ryan Gruduski]

If they call for death, then. I think so. Because.

[Tim Pool]

Question.

[Ryan Gruduski]

It's not. This is. This is an actual threat, then it's not. If they're calling for them, if they say execute this person who lives at this address, then yes, I think that they can.

[Phil Labonte]

It looks like they're mock wanted photos.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, I understand that, but with the language in it. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If someone's putting up a flyer that says do a thing to a person, it's a question of is that crossing the line into illegality?

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think, I think if it says them specifically what you want to do. If it says harm this person, you can't make physical threats of somebody. You could sit there and say, they're terrible people.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ryan Gruduski]

I failed at a law school, art school. I didn't go to law school, so I don't really know. But, but I have no, I have no idea what, what, what if that's. I don't know. I think that. I don't know what. Depends on what it's. Does it say what it's exactly say, deny? No, I don't, I don't think that.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not speaking, I'm speaking. Like the point I'm bringing up is obviously, if someone puts up a poster that says you should go do thing, that is criminal, right? That's criminal. I'm saying if someone uses veiled language, that we know what the intention is, but they didn't literally say it. Do we just say, well, we saw.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That in the, in all the Gaza protests. They said veiled language, but it was legal because we have a First Amendment in this country. You can say something as long as you're not actually threatening somebody. I think that there was, I think this is, if this is veiled language.

[Phil Labonte]

It depends on if they're going to.

[Tim Pool]

Start going out chanting, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but I mean, it depends on the question you're asking. Asking? Are you asking is or ought. So should it be illegal? Maybe.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Is it illegal?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Great point.

[Phil Labonte]

Probably not.

[Tim Pool]

You know the story of I won't someone rid me this priest?

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't.

[Tim Pool]

The king was frustrated with a priest. He was like, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest? This meddlesome priest? And then two knights were like, okay. And they went and killed him. And he was like, I didn't tell you to do this.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Where was this country? Is it for real? I think, okay, Sounds like a British thing to do.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It does.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I, I, I don't think that this. I don't read the poster and I.

[Tim Pool]

Didn'T go, turbulent, turbulent priest. It was Henry II of England.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Receiving the death of Thomas Beckett. He was frustrated, annoyed by him and.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Said, you know, Becky never shut up. So I can see that. Yeah, I think, I think that, I don't think that this is, this is illegal from what I see. But I'm not a lawyer, but it's definitely a threat there. And I'm sure if you were a CEO, you'd probably be moving to a gated community and so not seeing yourself publicly.

[Tim Pool]

What you're saying is a civil war is coming.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, didn't say that at all. And their fight back is like, america is so fat. We cannot have a civil war. We can barely walk to the corner. So, like, it would be a rolling electronic civil war. We're all on, like, those things you see at Walmart and Disney World. That would be like, the army instead of tanks.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Like that robot animation.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Just the morbidly obese of both obese.

[Ryan Gruduski]

People just trying to, you know, roll towards each other.

[Tim Pool]

Sir, we need more rascals for the front line.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Forget about rising again. They can't rise, period. It's just. Yeah, no, it's. I, I don't think that this is.

[Tim Pool]

This is, you know, like, what do you think happens with this, with this, like, wave of. Is this a flash in the pan that people forget about come January?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, look, you were at the Occupy Wall street stuff. How long did that last for?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, not only that, four months.

[Tim Pool]

And then by, like, February, the protests were a tenth of their size. And then.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, everyone moves on.

[Phil Labonte]

Listen, I know. I don't, I don't think that it's. Everyone moving on. This kind of stuff, this sentiment is, is built on Occupy.

[Tim Pool]

It's built on the same people involved.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay, but true, true question. If Luigi was not good looking, would anyone care?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, good question.

[Phil Labonte]

I do think so.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They don't care about the crime as much as they care about the person. Because he's handsome. JonBenet. They didn't care much about the crime, that they cared about the victim.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know, man. George Floyd was not that pretty. And that still spits up a bunch of ads.

[Tim Pool]

But chauvin.

[Phil Labonte]

But I mean, I understand what you're saying that the charisma of the actual shooter does. Might have something to say.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Big difference.

[Phil Labonte]

But I have felt like, and I continue to make the argument regularly that there is a sentiment in the US that is illiberal. We have a big communist problem in the US and there are people that essentially making, you know, class dynamic arguments or class conflict arguments. This is totally about class dynamics.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's 100% true. His case is very strange. I was talking on the way here.

[Tim Pool]

It's strange because he might be the guy.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You don't think so?

[Tim Pool]

But even his lawyer said they've so far been presented no evidence that he's actually the guy who. There's no evidence tying him to New York. I'm not saying I believe that's true. The lawyer could be saying that for obvious reasons. But also the police reported that this guy wasn't even on their radar or list when he was actually apprehended.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Why did he have to show an idea to McDonald's?

[Tim Pool]

No, they called the cops.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

They called the cops on him and the cops came in, you know, show me McDonald's.

[Ryan Gruduski]

So the cops asked. Yeah, like who are you? McDonald's worker. Okay, so someone's one of the.

[Tim Pool]

Why.

[Ryan Gruduski]

How did a second cousin like him? Yeah, I. I don't know. All Italians from Southern really look like, like semi related to that guy. I think that. Here's what's weird. He was from a super wealthy family. Right.

[Phil Labonte]

He.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't think he was denied any services. That's the whole argument. Like, oh, he was denied a service, therefore he became a vigilante. I never have heard of him being denied a service.

[Phil Labonte]

I heard that he got back surgery that was. Is. Is notoriously unaffective. Like, you get it. And maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. And he. His didn't work out. And so he blames the.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And blame the insurance company.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You know that he's an incel. Right?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. He can't have sex. Which also makes no sense because he's so built. He's so jacked. How can you lift weights and not have sex?

[Phil Labonte]

That's why I think it's.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Let her get on top. It's not that much work. I mean, like, seriously, that doesn't make any sense. A lot of things in his narrative don't make sense.

[Tim Pool]

Someone reported. So it's like a guy who knows him says that his, his back pain was so bad that he couldn't be intimate.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I know, I read that. That was like a roommate or something.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just clarifying for the audience.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, yeah, I mean I get it but like at the same time a lot of things in the whole story just are very strange.

[Tim Pool]

It could be really simple. Like the thing about incels is that there was some interview a while ago with a guy who was an incel and he was an average looking guy and he was like, it's just impossible for us to be intimate with women, blah blah, blah. And the response from most people in the comments was like what are you talking about? He's like a normal guy. The issue is social and in his mind it's possible he's ripped but still completely incapable of talking to women.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's probably. Listen, possibly he's very handsome. He went to Ivy League school. Rich, rich family.

[Tim Pool]

I as a box of rocks though.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Possibly.

[Tim Pool]

Did you read his manifesto?

[Ryan Gruduski]

I mean there was a lot of misspelling errors.

[Tim Pool]

Dumb. Yeah, A lot of spelling errors.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, I mean like there was a lot of spelling errors and I also read some of his book reviews. I also saw a Spotify playlist that was stranger. It was like Charlie xcx, Taylor Swift and Lana Del who kills someone after listening to Taylor Swift. I mean like, I mean, I mean yes, but like no, not out of aggression or you're listening to Taylor Swift. It's like you're, you know, energized by a Taylor Swift song.

[Phil Labonte]

To Tim's point though. And actually this is something that Maddie Igles tweeted yesterday. Like the. There were big dumb things in his, in his manifesto. So he's talking about the market cap list which is totally wrong. He ignores the. The role of homicide, suicide, drug overdose and car wrecks and life expectancy obesity. Saying that life expectancy is something that the health insurance agent company or health insurance industry should have an effect on and that's totally misaligned. Overstating the. The role of insurer profit in the US to health spending. Like.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And then Ro Khan, I like repeated all like the bad facts about how much. Yeah, I mean he's in Congress talk.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean he's so the guy was an idiot.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, no, there was a lot of things completely, completely and totally wrong. Also life expectancy is back up again and obesity is down health wise. Under Biden's presidency actually things have started getting A little better. But not to his credit. It just so happened. Not to him not to know. Sorry, Joe. But there. But yes. I don't think that he was a philosopher king. Also. Wait. He has such bad back problems. He's being shoved by the cops and fighting against them. You can't have sex, but you can go. And you can go with your arms tie behind your back and start shoving at cops.

[Tim Pool]

The incel thing may have been just to deride him.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't think that that's real. I'm sorry. I just don't believe in the.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Being rich and wealthy makes no sense in the aspect of the blm. A lot of folks. It's people in New York who were caught throwing Molotov cocktails at the rich. Yeah, yeah. Wealth doesn't play an aspect.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, I know. I didn't say wealth.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, no.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Socialist.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It doesn't make sense.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, it doesn't make sense that he couldn't have sex and be wealthy. That's easy to buy. I mean if you're that wealthy. But that was. But no, the thing. No, most like radicals usually do tend to come from higher income families. The poor are not the ones after your, you know, 12 hours working.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You after your 12 hour shift at Walmart, you're not going like, you know what I need to do right now? Get a Molotov cocktail. You're kind of exhausted there. But most of these people are from wealthy. I believe the radicalization could have happened. I believe that he could have printed a ghost gun. He was such a smart engineer and maybe his political takes were all. But. But this was. There's a lot of things that were very, very strange about the case.

[Phil Labonte]

I agree that it's strange.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I just want to ask about the silencer.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Wasn't there silencer in the video? So we didn't find that. I haven't seen any reports that they found a silencer as well. They found a gun or. No, they.

[Phil Labonte]

No, they.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That the photos I seen was just a gun in magazine.

[Phil Labonte]

But didn't they say that they had the silencer?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Not that I've read yet.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Can I just look it up a little bit?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

But I haven't seen it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

One other thing, we know more about him than the Trump shooter, the Las Vegas shooter, almost every other shooter. And I think it's because partially people are interested because he's good looking. I don't think that they cared. I think that. I think that that has driven a lot of attention in this case where, you know, I wasn't alive during Ted Bundy. No, I think that that's. Well, listen, I look like a fad Jew, so it doesn't matter, but I think that this is probably what, what is projected a lot of interest in this case. I don't really think there's going to be like a bunch of vigilantes. You know what? I'm the next Luigi. You know, I don't. I don't.

[Phil Labonte]

I. I mean, I don't know for sure. I don't know. I think that I probably agree with you. There's not going to be a bunch of. Of vigilantes. But I do still stand by the. The argument that there is a. A significant upswing, and there has been for the past, you know, 10 or so years, maybe longer, of essentially Marxist power dynamics that people believe if you are an oppressed person or if you can. Can style yourself oppressed. And we see, and we see it with the way that, that, you know, people have been lying about being minorities and. Or whatever they lie about, you know, about. I'm some oppressed group, because that is social currency. Now. If you're in a prep. If you are oppressed, then you are.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You know, or it's not even if you are oppressed if you're fighting for the oppressed. Yeah, that's true. Which is. He's never.

[Tim Pool]

He.

[Ryan Gruduski]

This guy's not oppressed. Like, he's not oppressed, but he's fighting for the oppressed, which makes him, you know, an ally or whatever the hell they call it.

[Phil Labonte]

And that, that dynamic, that, that essentially, that again, Marxist power dynamic is something that is really, really prevalent in, probably in Gen Z and maybe some younger millennials probably too. You know, I mean, that's a. It's a poison.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. And I think a lot of it lives on the Internet where the people's brains go to, like, you know, to fry. I think there is, like, men's illness is like, really being driven on the Internet big time.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I was. I was talking to a buddy of mine who was recently in New York, and he was concerned that the people who follow, like the liberal center of New York would have a negative reaction to his presence because of his online Persona. And he found completely none of it. And people were happy to meet him and they were fans. And I was just like, there's two things to understand. The Internet is not real life. But the Internet deeply influences the institutions of real life, like how ads are bought and what people are willing to say or not to say. So what I find is 99% of the 99.9% of people I meet are going to be fans. They're going to agree largely on most of these issues. They're going to say abortion to the point of birth. That's crazy. But maybe they're more moderate on abortion issues. But then the problem is with the Internet and with wokeness up until obviously the sweep this November, advertisers and individuals are scared to speak out against what they perceive to be the dominant culture.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right? No, that's true. That's 100% true. People only look at financial retaliation. Retaliation in like. I didn't, didn't. I might. I saw this on like a Instagram thing. So maybe it's not true, but didn't like a lot of the View ladies just recently lose endorsement deals or whatever because of how hatred. Look at msnbc. I know that for a fact. Yeah, that's what I read. There were a few of them that lost like movie deals or whatever. Could be wrong. But. But look at msnbc. It's being sold for scraps. Cnn, the Food Channel, I mean they are all. Because it's so vitriolically hated. There's so much hatred rather coming from them that, that I think that that. Sorry. Hatred towards conservatives from them that I think that people are kind of tired of.

[Tim Pool]

Look, man, you see Gwen Stefani, she recently did a commercial. What was it for? For hello.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, for hello. Yeah. For the Catholic thing. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of people were like, she's.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Always been openly Catholic, but she paid no attention.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but to see like a celebrity from her position, like Mark Wahlberg, we get. Mark Wahlberg has been deeply religious for a long time and people know that. But then it really. And you mentioned that. But people are feeling like that along with the Apple commercial and the Volvo commercial, that.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That was insane.

[Tim Pool]

A major shift is towards the right.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And it's not walking on minefields anymore. And that's like the thing that I noticed about. I wrote this whole long piece of the American Conservative magazine about the 2024 election. And part of it is like when Trump went to UFC fights and people were fight celebrities were fighting for selfies with him. I think that that was a major cultural turning point where people were like, oh, it's not bad anymore. I could say this out loud and it's not going to be scary or cancelable or whatever. And I think that that was. I think that's a big part of it for sure.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Kind of cringe. Crazy how it all changed.

[Ryan Gruduski]

It changed fast because. Because you know BLM was insane. It was an insane BLM was so nutty looking. You ever like go through a traumatic experience and then after it's over you're like, or you take care of someone who's very sick and then they die and then after it's over you're like, that was insane that I lived like that because that was nuts. This is kind of like what we're having afterwards. I, when I was on CNN one time with what's his face? Van John's. No, not that one. Jones goes, yeah, you know, my party was really crazy in 2020. I go, but why? It was crazy because of BLM. And you sat there and said all the criminals need to go free and we could burn down buildings and everything was okay. And you co signed criminality. And for a lot of, of you know, minorities who are, you know, not law breakers and who like have, want to own a store or whatever, I guess they were like, I'm not really down with this. I'm not really going to be this party.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story from Fox News. Caitlin Clark admits feeling privilege as a white person. Says WNBA was built on black players.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, man, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

She got featured on Time magazine as athlete. Featured by Time magazine as, as athlete of the year. And then of course, because she there's a target on her back for being at the top, she immediately pulls this, please, please, leftists don't beat me up anymore. And it is particularly cringe. The sad thing about this is that she was generally viewed favorably by everybody, conservatives, liberals, whatever. Now she's just basically taken a political stance and weirdly, it's the losing political stance as the Republicans just swept everything.

[Ryan Gruduski]

She's also getting the crap kicked out of her on.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I mean, I mean she's actually getting physically beaten on the, on the.

[Tim Pool]

Well, this is not going to help.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, there's no way. It's a bunch of angry lesbians beating the hell out of her because she's a pretty straight white girl. I mean, that's exactly what we're watching. This is Fight Club. It's not really the wnba.

[Tim Pool]

It's not going to change.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, I mean we're going to have this for generations, right? We're going to have the millennials started off. We're going to have Gen X or Gen Z and then Alpha. They've all been institutionalized to believe that, that white privilege is a thing, that all this woke ideology is a thing the normies will believe.

[Ryan Gruduski]

This kind of, I Bet you. I bet you she did not write this statement. I bet you a PR company did. And they said, this is the way you handle this. And this is the statement you have to give. Because she doesn't ever speak of politics. And I think I might be wrong on this, but I think she used to like Instagram posts that were Trump friendly and people had a big outrage towards that as well. Yeah, there's no.

[Tim Pool]

She could consider perhaps growing a spine.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it probably got.

[Ryan Gruduski]

It probably knocked out of her during the. On the court. I mean, that's.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, you know, man, sometimes having a spine means getting your spine kicked.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Unless she believes it. Like I said, like, all these people have been taught this for years and years. Their whole growing upness.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think she actually believes.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, I don't believe she was. I think that her PR company was like, we'll take care. This is our job. We know what we're doing. Look at how much we helped you. You're this big celebrity and they wrote something and she probably was like, all right, that sounds good. I don't. I don't think that she's a particularly political person.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Well, you could be kind of.

[Tim Pool]

Well, this is the problem with. With wokeness and institution and industry and sports or whatever is that nobody wants you to be the culty people do. They would demand it, but she could have just not entered the fray of the culture war and she decided, hey, I'm not a very political person and I've got people on left and right who actually are cheering for me. I'm going to ruin all of that and scream one of the most fringe political ideologies I can.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that that Ryan's right there. She's probably getting beat up. And not literally physically beat physically.

[Ryan Gruduski]

So she is physically getting.

[Tim Pool]

They've been attacking her on the court.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They've been, like, literally pummeling this poor girl. And her teammates don't stand up for her. They, like, let it happen.

[Phil Labonte]

It's ridiculous.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And she's making, like 40 grand a year. She's gonna need. She's gonna need that back surgery that Luigi had pretty soon, and she's not gonna have the money to do it because she's making 50 grand a year.

[Tim Pool]

She has endorsed.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, I know, I know. But still, I mean, she's the most famous WM player, I think, who's ever lived at this point. I don't know. I can't.

[Tim Pool]

Another one. I can't name a single one.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I can't name a single WM Player.

[Phil Labonte]

So no one cares about the wnba.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, but she made it interesting and the fights made it interesting and. Yeah, I mean, can you.

[Tim Pool]

Can you. Off the top of my head, you know Venus and Serena Williams and like top female athletes. Mia Ham was at lesbian.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

She was like soccer player.

[Tim Pool]

I know. And Venus and Serena were tennis players. I'm sorry, I'm saying what. How many top female athletes can you name? Patrick?

[Ryan Gruduski]

And there was that. The pink haired soccer player. I don't know her name.

[Tim Pool]

Megan Rapineau.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Megan Rapinoe.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know anything about her.

[Ryan Gruduski]

The woman from the eight. Billie Jean King. Okay, I got one. The other lesbian who's. I know. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I know, like, Venus and Serena is the easiest because they're some of the greatest athletes of all time.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, I mean, for women.

[Tim Pool]

For women.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, for girls, they're great. Oh, this one, Riley Gaines. I know her. I met her. So there you go. I got one other one. I mean, but yeah, there's not. There's not a.

[Tim Pool]

Is Riley like a world's best Olympian level, top tier?

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, but Simone Bowles.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Simone Bowles, Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. She's super killer.

[Ryan Gruduski]

She's very, very. She had a nervous breakdown. She couldn't compete, but she is.

[Tim Pool]

What's her face? Who turned into that floozy? The. The gymnast. Michaela. What's her name?

[Ryan Gruduski]

I.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Not off the top of my head.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what her name is.

[Tim Pool]

It's Floozy. The wrong word.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, I don't know. Maybe there's nothing wrong.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Maybe she's a. Yeah, it's a good word.

[Tim Pool]

I. Michaela Maroney.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, she like just started doing like Instagram content or whatever.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, she became a thought.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe I'm wrong about that and I should apologize because I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Ryan Gruduski]

We're not really killing on the female athletes list.

[Tim Pool]

They're going to be like five guys in a room of five. Misogynist. Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Maria. Sara Pova. Oh, she was huge. She was the tennis player.

[Tim Pool]

Navratilova.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes. Because she talks about all the women's stuff she wants. Women's sports. Yeah, I've. Okay, there's.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

We're killing it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But hold on.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Like a dozen between.

[Tim Pool]

How many? How many wnba.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, zero. There's not a chance.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Dana Teresi, she's really one of the OGs.

[Tim Pool]

Ah. Did you just look that up?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, no, I knew that one.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, she's good. I swear to God.

[Ryan Gruduski]

She's good. Okay. I mean, listen, wasn't there only one like dunk in the whole history of that maybe like.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, that was that tall lady.

[Tim Pool]

Why don't. They can't dunk?

[Ryan Gruduski]

They can't.

[Tim Pool]

They physically can't.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They can't physically where?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

They can only jump like one foot instead of two.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, they can only. There's only been one, I think one dunk in the history of the wba.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Isn't the like the hoop lower though?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't, I don't think so.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't think.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Same.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think it's the same.

[Tim Pool]

Only one dunk.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. So it's not.

[Tim Pool]

Remember when that group of high school boys checked the U.S. yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

15 year olds. The 15 year old speed.

[Ryan Gruduski]

It's. Yeah. Biology is real.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You know, I don't, I mean, at the end of the day, biology is real.

[Phil Labonte]

Get in trouble for that one. But it's true.

[Tim Pool]

I, I skateboard, so I don't know much about like basketball, football or otherwise, but I can tell you that major league sports don't bar women from playing in them. They just really.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They don't. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

A woman could try for the NBA if she wants to.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Tim Pool]

Good luck. That's why there have been women have tried it for the NFL as kickers. And did they ever get it? No. Oh, there. There are a few female kickers who are decent and they've tried and then like just flubbed it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

To answer your question, it was the. The best trade America has ever made again for a hostage in the world would be Brittany Grimer. Oh, yeah, There you go.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, she dunked.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, she dunked. It says the only standalone stands alone in 2024.

[Phil Labonte]

She's a giant too.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, she has no marks. Anyways, well, that's a whole different subject.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay, so. Yeah, there you go. We.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I think David Lucas was on here.

[Ryan Gruduski]

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[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, hear that?

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, thank you.

[Ryan Gruduski]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Ryan Gruduski]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Ryan Gruduski]

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[Tim Pool]

Will, I will say this. I can't speak to the other sports, but in skateboarding, the first 720 rotation, which you, you understand what that means, right?

[Ryan Gruduski]

360 times 10. Right.

[Tim Pool]

So it was landed in I think, I think it would have been the, the early 80s. And the first female 720 was landed a couple years ago. I think a little couple years ago. The first 900.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Is it because of the height you need to get to, to do that? Imagine you need to be high in the air to go around twice.

[Tim Pool]

So it's an avert ramp. Well, let me say one more thing. The first, the first 900 rotation, of course very famously Tony Hawk in 1999. So it's now been 25 years and the first female 900 was ever completed 25 years later. And the first 1080 spin was done by a 12 year old boy. No female is yet to accomplish a 1080 rotation.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Maybe they're looking. They need to find a 10 year old girl. I mean that's pretty wild. I know less about, I know more about the WNBA than I do skating.

[Tim Pool]

So I'm just completely, I'm just using that to describe like the gap in time it took for women to accomplish what men had done decades ago. And for whatever reason it is, my point is that it was women were capable of doing it but did not do it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But is it because they never. Right. Tanya Harding. Harding is another ice skating.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Nancy Kerrigan we got.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, I'm just. Sorry, blinked in my head. No, there are female like there's female figure skaters who do stuff. But is it, is it that, is it a question of ability or creativity? I would imagine it's more of ability like the median. There's probably more median like well ice female ice skaters than men. But there's probably more amazing male ice skaters than females.

[Tim Pool]

In my experience watching male and female skateboarders, female skateboarders tend not to be able to jump.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Maybe that's why they can't. That's why they can't dunk them.

[Tim Pool]

W. I'd imagine. Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Brave total. I apologize. In 2024 is only Brittany Grimer in all of WNBA per brave AI 37 dunks in total. Okay, so out of 27 years, 37. Out of 27 years.

[Tim Pool]

Mugsy Bogues could do 360 dunk and he was five foot three.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Awesome.

[Phil Labonte]

Brittany Griner, six foot nine oh, she.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Can get three feet.

[Phil Labonte]

It's three foot vertical. Well, actually, no, not even a three foot.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Her arms are.

[Phil Labonte]

Your arms are like. He's like a one foot jump to be able to do it.

[Tim Pool]

What were we talking about again? Oh, yeah. Wokeness.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Wokeness.

[Tim Pool]

So I'll just bring it back to the article and just say it's kind of funny for Caitlin Cock to say this when it's on the way out, right. Like we just, we just saw the massive wave towards Trump and against this and she's like, I'll go the other direction.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think it's probably a PR firm and I just think that she. Listen, she. I mean, it's not easy, especially when there's a racial view of everything that she does because she is a white woman in a black sport with a black audience predominantly. Imagine, I would love to know actually where the revenue of the W income is a primarily.

[Tim Pool]

It knows everything, doesn't it?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Is a rock. Is it mostly a black audience or a white audience that pays for all the tickets and stuff like that? That's awesome.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I'm like, okay, it's all off.

[Tim Pool]

It's all subsidy. There's no audience at all.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's all, it's all fine.

[Ryan Gruduski]

People watch it when she was playing though.

[Tim Pool]

No, those are just family members.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, she's got so many family members. She's got from the south, all the.

[Tim Pool]

Players, family members show up. You know, when like a high school band is trying to, you know, play a show, they just bring all their friends and family to pay the five bucks to come in so they can do the show. That's what it's like. You know, that's a wnba.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I. But there's got to be some.

[Tim Pool]

You had seven pay per view viewers today. It was mom, dad, brother, sister. We're just ragging on the WNBA now just because it's funny.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It is funny.

[Phil Labonte]

So Grok says that it's. It's. It's a mix of individual fans, season ticket holder groups and organizations and resale market.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I wonder. The demographic is mostly. I, I'm probably. It's a lot of black audience doing that and so she feels like this is what they.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. I don't know if I agree because.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Daytime TV is overwhelmingly black female viewers.

[Tim Pool]

Really? Oh, it's like that's WNBA's daytime TV.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, but like that's why you see a lot of. That's why you see the casting of daytime TV being what it is is because it used to be 30 years ago. A lot of stay at home moms in the white suburbs doing that. And that's why it's soap operas now. It is primarily a black female audience. It's overwhelmingly. And that's why I do know that for a fact. And that's why the daytime TV looks the way it does maybe. And the politics the way it is. Maybe this is part, maybe she's just like, this is what you're, your demos look like.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean this is a whole different subject. Is that because a lot of them have, they're not working and they're.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know. I, I don't know why they're. Why that's the audience. I do know that's the audience. And that's the only for the View. And that's why the Views topics have changed. That's why their politics have changed. Is what the same thing. That's why there's many judge shows. They're cheaper to make too. But that's why there's so many judge shows. They, they, that's a, that's a demo that sits there and feeds into those things. So I don't know. But that is why I, I imagine part of it is sitting there and saying, caitlin, your audience is 50% black women or whatever. So you want to sit there and toe the line and keep pushing on this. Possibly. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

But I mean this is, this is a spoiler for sponsorships.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. If it's like what's her face? Who was the transgender?

[Tim Pool]

Mulvaney.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Dylan Mulvaney. Yeah. I mean Dylan Mulvaney. There will be, by the way, they.

[Tim Pool]

Will light is not going to recover.

[Ryan Gruduski]

There will be an economics course hopefully one day like Harvard Business School saying how to ruin a very successful business. And it will be all about Dylan Mulvaney's endorsement. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

If they're like in a real world.

[Tim Pool]

Response to it, like.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, in a real world they should be teaching like business courses of how to ruin a company.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. Well, let's, let's move on. Let's jump to the story from Fox News. Daniel Penny's lawyers weighing malicious prosecution, lawsuit after trial, collusion from the very beginning. I'd like to start this by first that those aren't familiar. I think everybody knows Jordan Neely was a well known violent criminal who had rejected treatment, who appeared in a train threatening people. Daniel Penny had subdued him in the process. Jordan ended up dying after the fact. Penny just recently was acquitted. But as many people, they're somewhat aware. I have a question for all of you guys, can you name the other man who held down Jordan Neely?

[Phil Labonte]

No, negative.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I don't know.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I know he's.

[Phil Labonte]

Google it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I know it's not even as Gonzalez. That's all I know.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, he's close. Oh, Eric Gonzalez. Eric, the black man who held down Jordan Neely and didn't get charged. So it sounds to me like Daniel Penny may actually have a malicious prosecution lawsuit.

[Ryan Gruduski]

There should be some kind of recourse where if your life is destroyed by a political DA somewhere, you should have some kind of resource, a recourse to sue them. I mean, I don't know what that would be like. I'm sure you could sue the city. You can't sue the DA personally, because there's.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it says they're going to sue. The lawsuit would target DA Alvin Bragg and the medical examiner's office. This. I mean, I mean, who do you target in a malicious prosecution anyway?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, but the DA's have protective immunity, so I don't know if they can.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Do they. I know cops do.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I. I'm. I'm. I'm almost 100. You would know more than me.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I'm just.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I would. I. If the DA's don't have protective immunity, I would be shocked considering how many would have already been personally sued and have their house taken away. That would be hard to sit there and hard to sit there and say how they could sue him personally, but they could definitely. He could definitely sue the city. That would be it.

[Tim Pool]

It says his team is eyeing a malicious prosecution lawsuit against. Against DA Alvin Bragg and others behind the charges. Turning the tables. Quote, they knew they weren't going to be able to get him, so they had to get rid of that top count in order to get that second count, just in hopes that maybe they could pull out a win here.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Do you know that Danny Penny is also. Daniel Penny is also Italian. Like, as if as a fellow Italian, it has been highs and lows this week as far as people making the news among my people.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, maybe you should call the family.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know what's going on, but we have had. We've had ups and downs. Sounds. Yeah, I. I hope, I. Listen, I hope he's successful. I don't know how he would do it, but I hope he's successful because he was ripped his whole life, even forever. No matter what he does. He could cure cancer and it will be next to his name. The guy who did the. The chokehold.

[Tim Pool]

Did you see what the, like corporate press has been saying? There was. There was one, like a print paper, and it said Marina quitted after strangling. Subway dancer or something like that.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Unreal.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, but where does he go to get his life back, really? I mean, that's the thing about the intro. There's. To ever. Ever go back to. To your normal life, you can never have. Even if you move to, like, a red state or red county, you can never have a normal life again. That will follow you. They'll follow your kids for the rest of their lives. Everything, I mean, and it was clearly all nonsense.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he could.

[Ryan Gruduski]

He could.

[Tim Pool]

He could solve this easily. Oh, if he transitions and gets a new name and no one's gonna know.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Daniela Daniel.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's a little on the nose.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's what they usually do.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe he can change his name to Georgia Jordan Penny Neely.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I mean. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then put on a dress and dance.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, but that's a good. I mean, listen, I hope he's successful, but.

[Tim Pool]

So this is not to, like, just shift too dramatically, but this is an interesting conversation that came up. I can't remember what podcast I was listening to. They were talking about how that trans youth may be a result of being unable to escape the Internet and that. That. So imagine this. You're a teenager and someone films you at a party or whatever and embarrasses you and ruins your life. Everyone's making fun of you and they keep sharing the video, and you can't escape it. You want to change your name. You want to be someone else. It's dark and. Yeah. So, not that it's a g. Not that it's an absolute reason of all trans youth, but that the concern is that there are young women who are deeply embarrassed, deeply impacted by social issues, get mocked and made fun of for something in school, and then are told, you can change your name, change your appearance, get surgery and be someone else and move to a new school if you do this.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. The UK just banned hormone blockers.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I.

[Phil Labonte]

Very good.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Definitely. That's the one thing they've been actually pushing for a long time. That's actually conservative. But the. The. The thing is, is it's clearly a social contagion. There's absolutely no way it's not a social contagion. The difference. Strangling subway dancers or not being trans as a child. But the thing is. Difference is like, when. When you're about my age, so I'm 37. When you were getting picked on in school, when you had an embarrassing incident when you did Something it left in school that day and you went home and it didn't follow you. And now with the phone it follows you. And a big part of that is, you know, I don't know. I think that there's no escape. There's no escape. You, it literally follows you. In Australia they just banned apps for people under 16.

[Tim Pool]

I think we should, I think we should. Yeah. I think apps under 16, I think you should only be allowed to have a phone, a smartphone after 16 and before that it should be a dumbfound phone.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You know I do a lot of things with school boards because I run the 1776 Project Pack. We do school board elections and the number one school board trend that's happening in schools across the country and this is blue and red is the banning of cell phones in classrooms. It is, it's happening across, it will happen in the schools but the dumb phones are fine.

[Tim Pool]

If all they can do is make phone calls. They're texting as I said, just phone calls. Texting is still have a rotary.

[Phil Labonte]

There's no reason, there's no reason to have.

[Tim Pool]

They have phones that they make for kids right. In general it's got, it's got, it can dial and it can't make text.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Really. I know that. I thought it was just.

[Tim Pool]

There's a, there was an, like an E ink phone that came out a while ago that all it does is make phone calls and they, they target it for elderly people.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

I think they should need to like parents. You, you can lock the phones, you can get them and you can disable it. But the kid's going to figure out how to.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, you know what it's. The problem is the parents are oftentimes in the classrooms. One saying no, you have to have my kids phone on because I need to get a hold of him at all times. And it's this mass anxiety by parents, which is nonsense.

[Tim Pool]

Did you hear that story of the mother who got arrested because her 11 year old was walking to the bodega?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

What's going on? Like let the kids just go do their thing, man.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, you knew. When you realize like how much more dangerous the world was when we were growing up in the early 90s versus now and the paranoia compared to. And before that. What Gen Xers grew up in in the 70s was like it was far more dangerous.

[Phil Labonte]

Go outside and don't come back till the lights are on.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. I was going to say exactly. When I was 30 years ago my parents were like, you're grounded from inside the House, push me outside. Cl when the lights come on, come on home.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

My mom would kick me the f out. Like get out of here, I'm trying to do something. Come back later.

[Tim Pool]

I'd get on my bike and then I would ride around to my friend's houses and then when the lights came on, I'd ride home and then I'd come home and we'd have dinner or something.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, but it's remarkably a much safer world than it was 50, 40, 30, 20 years ago. And you would think that it's. Massacres are happening on every single block. The way that people are treating children and that elongates childhood. There was a great book called Generations. I forget the author's name. Jean Twiggy, Tweeji, Tweegey, whatever her last name is. But it talked about the how people are children well into their 20s now and have a child mindset. So a 25 year old now has the life experiences of a 15 year old. And I have some relatives like this who are in their early 20s who, I mean, I did more at 16 than they did at 21 and they have no ambition to even do that. Which I think is part of the break.

[Tim Pool]

This is this going back to the story of Luigi Mangione. This is. Look at his life. The dude's institutionalized his whole life. And I don't mean like in a health care facility or something. I'm saying he wakes up, goes to school as a little kid, then he goes to school as a teenager, then he goes to school as an adult, then he gets out and he's like, what is this? What is this? What is that? He has no idea what's going on. A 26 year old for hundreds of thousands of years of human development, a 26 year old would be building their own house with a bunch of kids now they're. I just finally got out of school and never had a job and I'm 26.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Did he never have a job?

[Tim Pool]

I'm not, I don't know if literally he didn't, but he was an Ivy Leaguer who went to school and got his.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And was a valedictorian too. So you think he'd be running a company by now or founding one.

[Tim Pool]

He has no work experience.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, it's odd. It's really, really odd. Also, Matt, he gave his valedictorian speech which now imagine that was like your valedictorian was Luigi. Like, where are they now in the 20 year reunions?

[Tim Pool]

Just, just look at the current state of how kids are Being raised. And let's. Let's project that out 20 years.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No.

[Tim Pool]

100%.

[Ryan Gruduski]

People, people, people do not have that. People made fun of millennials beyond belief because we like the avocado toast and imagine we were too much. I love avocado test. It is great. It is great. People, I will shout, lost their minds because of that. But anyway. But they did. They lost their minds. Avocados. But that. Was that. That long that millennials being, I guess, young till we were 30 Alphas. It will be until they're, like, in their early 40s.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Do you think we can save, like, switch it back? Like, how we're kind of like, steering back towards the.

[Ryan Gruduski]

There was a story about how the number of. There was a story that. But the number of wealthy white Americans who are going to college is down, which I thought was very, very interesting.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And I think that maybe people, if they have the opportunity to do something else, are taking it, and that will. That taking a level of risk is part of growing up. Up. Right. We. We divorce people from risk. That makes them children forever. When you have everything decided for you. So maybe by not going to school, maybe sitting there and having a risk of, like, I'm going to start a company, I'm going to make a job, I'm going to do something. Something for myself, maybe that will make them grow up. I don't know. But that would be part of it where you sit there and say, you know, I think divorcing from social media, it needs job.

[Tim Pool]

Kids need jobs.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. That's why we can't let robots take over everything.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Kids need job jobs, like mowing the lawn. And a couple years ago, I said, kids need jobs. And we were talking about there was some bill that would allow kids under the age of 16 to work for, like, 12 hours at certain jobs or whatever. And the left lost their money.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I know. I told that. Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They were like, you could work at, like, a Chick Fil A for, like, you know, I guess it was like 20 hours a week, 24 hours a week, which is. It's a lot.

[Tim Pool]

And you're like. It was. It was for like, 14 and 15 year olds.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And they're like, oh, child labor. And I'm like, how old were you.

[Ryan Gruduski]

When you had your first job?

[Tim Pool]

Not nine.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Nine.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. My family owned a coffee shop.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. And kids need jobs. Before that, I mowed lawn and rake leaves. You'd get a rake, you'd go to the house, you knock on the door, can I rake Your leave for five bucks. And they'd be like, yeah, sure, yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

We used to shovel snow for 20 bucks at people's houses. That was like, when it's good snow season as a kid, you're like, we are making bank right now.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I was delivering newspapers in a Voca PA at six with my brothers.

[Tim Pool]

Now kids are sitting around playing video games, going to school, and then they are 22, and they've never had a job before, for.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

And they look up to Bernie Sanders, who also never had a job.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Wait, that's true, right?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his wife made a university go bankrupt, which I did not think it did. His wife university did go bankrupt.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

All those guys.

[Tim Pool]

That's based.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I guess. I don't think she meant it. I think it was like, by whatever.

[Tim Pool]

Her intentions were, the outcome was good.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. And he's. And he has three homes, and he's a millionaire. So, I mean, hey, man, you know, only in America could a socialist make so much money.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, he stopped. He stopped. Stop pointing at millionaires, too. As soon as.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as he became a millionaire, he dropped the word millionaire from all his speeches.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yep. He used to go, the millionaires and the billionaires in this country.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then he became a millionaire and he started saying the billionaires.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Really? I did not realize that he dropped millionaire from his little verbiage.

[Tim Pool]

And I was like, bernie, look, there's a difference between a millionaire and a guy with $999 million, okay?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Like you.

[Tim Pool]

You're allowed to save the millionaires if you have a.

[Ryan Gruduski]

If you're 60 and you bought a house in a good neighborhood in Austin or whatever, and now it's worth 3 million. Know, you're a multimillionaire, but you could be, you know, a car salesman and just be like, you know, making, you know, a decent living, but not the right investment. Yeah, the right investment will change everything like that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, these. These socialists have no idea what they're talking about. Hence, they are defending Neely and they. They're. You know, they defend the bad guys in every.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Isn't it always true, or most of the time true, that the biggest radicals in the history are always from the wealthy class? They're never usually poor people. Yeah, I mean, that's. That is true. That's been all over Europe, too.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

So it would make sense that this Luigi kid who never apparently really worked that much, even though he went to school and got a big degree and was clearly very, very smart Would have. Would have been.

[Tim Pool]

He's not radical.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Maybe in engineering. He's not. Listen, his. Yes, his manifesto was nonsense. Maybe he knows how to engineer. I don't know. I don't know engineering. So what am I supposed to sit there?

[Tim Pool]

It's like when he said we have the most expensive healthcare in the world, but our life expectancy is super low.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I was like, oh my God, like I bought a car from the car dealership and it was too expensive. My gas prices are so high. It's like those are not correlated things he did.

[Ryan Gruduski]

He mentioned obesity. No. Right?

[Tim Pool]

No, no.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But.

[Tim Pool]

But the. But a great point brought up by Jeremy Kaufman is like if the standard of living, living and labor costs are higher in the United States due to our wealth, healthcare will be comparable.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But it's funny how like health care is like the one thing that they have this to this belief of they don't blame the doctors, but they don't blame the doctors. They don't blame the nurses. They only blame the insurance agents when.

[Phil Labonte]

It'S the government because it's the most regulated industry in the United States and subsidized.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I remember in 2006, I needed health insurance or something and I bought it like on a website for like $250 or $300 a month. And now that's almost impossible to do for less than, I don't know, three, two, two, one. $500 a month. It is. What I pay for health insurance for me and my employees is crazy high. And it wasn't before Obamacare. There was no way it was this high before Obamacare.

[Phil Labonte]

Obamacare screwed everything.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

As much as like people, it was supposed to fix all the problems and all it did was it allowed in the insurance companies to write their own rules for the health insurance industry. It made prices skyrocket. The argument was prices are going to go up, then they're going to come down once people start buying into the system and stuff. But they never came down because the most subsidized and most regulated industry in America is the United States or is in the United States is healthcare. I made this argument multiple times this week already. If you get rid of the subsidizing it, there's no reason for your health care to be attached to your job. You should have the money obviously to pay for healthcare, but you shouldn't have to have a job to be able to go to the doctor.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, well, that was thing. FDR was the one who pushed for health care and jobs to be connected. No, sorry, he didn't push it when he was president because taxes were so high, companies offered health insurance instead of raises.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, we talked about that last night too. But the, the, the argument that it should just be free is. Is bs. There needs to be a market and that's the only way prices are going to.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Maybe, maybe I'm wrong with this, but didn't, didn't the number of insurance agencies diminish since Obamacare? Yes, it is almost like the military, where the number of not the military, but the, the people who supply military supplies has decreased substantially over the last 20 years.

[Phil Labonte]

The same thing that happened with the banks with the too big after too big to fail. All these. There's a. There used to be multiple smaller banks and they all got eaten up by a handful of bigger banks. You don't want the government to co go into an industry and have massive regulation. You have to let the markets do it. And when people do things that make their business fail, the government can't come in and save them.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, my buddy Ann Coulter always said if tarot card readers had a lobby, they would be covered by insurance.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, absolutely. Let's jump to the story from the Daily Wire. The first thing I want to say is we we routinely cover the demise of CNN and other cable news networks.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Amen.

[Tim Pool]

And I wanted to make a joke about beating a dead horse, but it feels a little too close to literal in this regard because CNN is dying. But CNN falls to Food Network Hallmark channels in ratings battle following Trump victory the ratings are so bad they're now beneath Hallmark and wow. The evening lineup average a total of 367,000 total viewers between 8 to 11. In comparison, Fox averaged 2.5 million. Understand that is not key demo.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I mean when I that's overall 367.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Their key demo is 67,000.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Brutal.

[Tim Pool]

Guys, we have more than that watching the show on average live, let alone the total viewership.

[Ryan Gruduski]

People's tweets have more viewers. CNN hosts get more visibility from tweeting their stories than from being on air, which is also crazy. While they're all making seven figures or in the case of Anderson Cooper, it's.

[Tim Pool]

Actually pretty crazy too. Fox News in comparison had 280,000 view viewers during the key demo. And that's pretty nuts because we as well as a lot of other shows are absolutely crushing that. The scary thing is to understand while an episode of Tim cast IRL may end up with about 600 to 700,000 viewers every night, it used to be that the top shows were getting 5 to 10 million in the key demo. But now it's completely decentralized. So there's some good there and some bad there. The good is that decentralization is largely healthier for a media diet. But it also means that my concern right now is that Fox, Disney, Comcast, Comcast, everyone's like, oh, they're dumping all these big channels, right? Yeah, but Comcast isn't going to sit back and go, guess we lose. They're going to say, how do we buy into the space on YouTube? And then if they come into this space, you know, I look at what we've got here and I was talking to friends about, I'm like, we're like an indie label. We're like, we're a privateer. The East India Trading Company is around the corner. When they come in and claim the high seas, we're going to get crushed. So, Right.

[Ryan Gruduski]

If you could watch. If you're a big Fox News fan and you can't afford cable, but you can afford a YouTube and they just did the ads on YouTube. If they could figure out a way to make that easy to watch it without a subscription, you, we could. 1000 per. Jesse Waters would have tons of viewers. Well, they do.

[Tim Pool]

They, they put the, the segments up. But that's not, it's not the segments.

[Ryan Gruduski]

If you could watch it live on YouTube. If you could watch.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Well, they have. It's on YouTube TV if you're paying the subscription.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

What I'm saying is, is Fox is going to say, jesse, we're launching your YouTube podcast and we're going to put $20 million in your first year behind it in marketing because we are reclaiming the space. And then MSNBC is not going to just die off. Comcast is going to go to YouTube and say, we think you guys should have a prominently displayed featured channels bar when people go to YouTube.com and we'll pay you $100 million a year to be on that.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But think about the top 10 biggest conservative talents in America right now. How many got their start from Fox News?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Tim? Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I mean, it was a joke. No, I'm, I thought he was, I thought he was asking questions. No, Fox News produced probably seven of the top 10. So Tucker, Tucker, Megan, Kelly.

[Tim Pool]

Tucker was a bunch of channels before.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Fox News, but he became a conservative tight end because of when he was on Fox. Megan, Kelly, Glenn Beck, you could go.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What, is Coulter one of them?

[Ryan Gruduski]

And no man never worked for Fox News. But I'm talking. But like O'Reilly, O'Reilly's podcast is gigantic. You really. It's huge. It's huge. It's very big. I don't know if it's in the top 10, but it's. I was on the list of, like, the top 50 of political podcasts last time I checked.

[Tim Pool]

Well, top political podcasts or top podcasts, it's up there.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But the point.

[Tim Pool]

The point is I think he's medium.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay, well, whatever. He's mid. The point is, is that if you could do that, if you could go directly before they go independent and they could get, I don't know, a cut of it. Yeah, there's no reason.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. He is not a top podcast ever. All, actually.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay, which one?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Bill.

[Ryan Gruduski]

We're talking about Bill.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he. He is not in the top 200.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, wow. What is this?

[Tim Pool]

In news, he's number 42.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay. That's where I saw him.

[Tim Pool]

And. Yeah, but that's a pretty. Like, news is a limited field. Right.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But he's also been off the air for 15 years. My point is, is that how many talent comes. That's why I was saying Fox News World, a lot of conservative talent comes out of that. So before they go independent and they have the big enough audience to go independent, they can easily do that. That.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, indeed.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I don't know that that Fox has produced that many of the. The big ones, but I mean, they. They've produced the biggest of the big.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They produced a lot of big ones, though.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I mean, look at. Look, just look at what Tucker Carlson did after FOX News. That's like. He's probably the biggest person that's come out of Fox News right.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right now. Yeah, but it's. It's. I mean, yeah. Yes, right now, but the independent space. Space is very young. You know what I mean? It's not like people have been doing this for 20 years about going on doing their own podcast. Yeah. For right now, it. He's pro. Him. Megan Kelly's huge. Ben Shapiro had a lot of things on there. Ben. Fox News definitely helped Ben Shapiro with his career. Charlie Kirk appearing on Fox News several hundred times definitely helped his career. A lot of.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And a lot of people's careers have been immense.

[Phil Labonte]

Crowder was on Fox of there. There isn't the same kind of boost from CNN and msn.

[Tim Pool]

There is number eight in the world.

[Ryan Gruduski]

When Jesse Waters used to talk about me being on cnn, more people had watched it from the Fox clip than from being actually being on CNN. That was a regular thing. No. 1. I never got hate mail while I was on CNN because no one ever watched the network. It was the clips on Twitter.

[Tim Pool]

We are the 57th biggest in the world. On Apple, we're not 156, but for all platforms combined, 27tucker I think is 36 on Apple. But Apple, actually this is kind of wild. When I first started, Apple was the big dog. Now YouTube is the biggest player in podcasts.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, YouTube is. And the ad dollars are all in YouTube now. It's wild.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Why, why is is people. Because they have to watch on camera or they listen.

[Tim Pool]

So video is heavily preferred now for the format. So obviously in the early days you turn it on and listen to it and do other things. Right, but with the video option, yeah. Now you get the TV casting for a lot of people. Now it's just some people when they have the choice, they'd rather watch a show like, like this with a video element to it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

That's why Spotify edited it. Apple, they owned the space and they really let it down. And ad rates are dropping on the audio side and video side is starting to dominate. It's, it's pretty nuts. What's, what's happening on YouTube now. And that's why my concern is coming into this next year, we're all laughing, going, haha, Comcast is selling msnbc and it's like, bro, Comcast is going to turn around and say why we're launching a billion dollar endeavor into the podcasting space. And they can walk into YouTube's executive office and say, how much money to cut all of these independent players out and give us the premium space. We'll tell you this, YouTube, you have a guarantee from us that all of the shows that run through our network will never violate advertisers and we'll get premium CPMs, which you get a cut on. And they're going to be like, deal. No longer does YouTube have to worry about demonetizing or dealing with some person and saying a bunch of racial slurs. They're going to be like, yeah, we'd rather just cut a deal.

[Ryan Gruduski]

So they're not going to have joy. Read on.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I'm just kidding. My fear is I don't know that it's guaranteed, but there is a strong probability that YouTube will easily give corporate interest benefit to the big networks who buy in because they already did it in the past. In 2018, there was this fake news that was released accusing a bunch of different YouTubers of being part of a nefarious network that was aligned with white supremacy. They claimed that this guy Chris Ray Gun, for instance, who doesn't even really make videos anymore. He did video game and humor content, had collaborated with Richard Spencer. The two had never met. Didn't matter. YouTube lost its mind and immediately removed all of the channels from the recommendation algorithm. Instantly, every one of these channels that was either on the right or the left saw all of their channel recommendations turn into Fox and MSNBC or CNN. So if you were a liberal leaning creator, YouTube and you make a video before 2018, you would see on the right side a whole bunch of your other videos. After this PR campaign and adpocalypse, it turned into nothing but Fox News. If you, if you went to Joe Rogan, it would be Joe Rogan and Fox News.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And the autoplay is a big part of.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. That was largely it too. When we would go into our analytics, you would see recommend. So here's a graph showing all the recommendations and then this one day happened and it all dropped down from like 18 to like 2%.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

So I've seen them do this and I tell you, I've, I believe strongly when they're talking about Murdoch, the Murdoch family wanted to be in the podcasting space and Disney Comcast may nuke msnbc. But what that really means is they're going to come to the space right now and you've heard the liberal, liberal channels on YouTube screaming, why aren't we getting funding from this? The Democratic Party is going to reassess and they're going to say, say why didn't our media mechanism work? And they're going to say, because people are on YouTube. And then they're going to look to these liberal creators and say, how much money do we have to pay them to say our message? And those people are going to take the money in two seconds and they're going to go to YouTube and say our network guarantees this, that or otherwise we're part of MSNBC or cnn. So you know it's safe already. If you go to YouTube and you search news, you're only getting cable, cable TV, YouTube channels. This is going to happen to podcasters in the next year or two, maybe three. But it's coming and I think people gotta be prepared for that. They are not going to allow, dude, I am a mixed race high school dropout from the south side of Chicago who through sheer brute force built a show by just working 16 hour days. And I guarantee you powerful interests are sitting there looking at me being like, this guy helped Trump win, right? He was talking to moderates the whole time saying Trump is the guy and he helped cause this election. We need to shut out people like him. And I see that coming.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, it's not even just people like you who are explicitly conservative, but what about all the comedians?

[Tim Pool]

I'm not explicitly conservative.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Not. Sorry, explicitly political. I'm saying, what are all the comedian podcasters who never talked really about politics that much, who had Trump on their network?

[Tim Pool]

They're going to fall in line in two seconds, 100%. These, these comedians largely refused to endorse Donald Trump until it became obvious in the public sphere that, like with a Bud Light and Target thing, they said, we can see the writing on the wall. We're shifting over the Democratic Party and the neolib, neocon establishment political forces are probably saying those people will fall in line if we can maintain a dominant, like a ubiquity in culture. Independent voices rising up and dominating. Trump being a weird underdog, anti establishment billionaire was weird. They didn't want him to win. But now he owns the narrative. He owns the popularity concept. They've got to reverse that. They're going to put billions into this space to make sure. And it's going to be really easy. They won't ban us. They're not going to go to YouTube and say, Ban that guy. They're going to go to YouTube and say, we'd like to run a $100 million ad campaign. Then the only thing you're ever going to see is the. Is the podcast. Individual personalities that appear authentic because they were cast to do so. It will work for the average person to be entertaining. It will have substantially more marketing and backing. It will be more appealing to individuals getting into the space. And then they're going to have bosses, and those bosses are going to say corporation. Look, we know you're deeply concerned about those issues right here, but we really do think this, this news is more important. And they're going to push people in the direction they want them to go. Then they're going to, then you're going to get corporate press, Orange man bad all over again and it'll be YouTube.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think that, I think part of the CNN numbers and the MSNBC numbers also do the fact, fact that when Trump won the one period but won the popular vote and that narrative was taken from them that you were, that it was, you know, it was the electoral college and they stole it from you, yada, yada, yada. I think a lot of Democrats and progressives out there and just like, I need to, I need to chill out. I need no more news. I need to sit there. And there's no, like, major protests. There's no resist lips like there was in 2016. But they will be back. They will be looking for a voice. And if there is no Rachel Maddow show the way it is now, there will be somebody else who will sit there and do it for them in whatever platform they do. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Political activism isn't done just because.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, no, no, exactly.

[Phil Labonte]

And when it comes to the left like they have, they worked very hard to get the gains that they've made. And they may have gone a little too far in the past 10 years or whatever, but that doesn't mean that they still don't want all the stuff, all of the initiatives that they've started and pushed a little too far on. They'll back up a little bit.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Bit.

[Phil Labonte]

And then they'll go ahead.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I have, I was, I. So I have a substack called the National Populations Letter. And I just wrote about this. There is in the states, right. In 2017, right when Trump won, New York had a Republican state Senate. Washington state did. A lot of states had. Connecticut was tied. They had a lot of, a lot of very blue states had Republican legislatures that held a lot of crazies. Minnesota, Pennsylvania did, Pennsylvania did, Minnesota did, Michigan did, did. All of that was lost over the last eight years, especially in the 2018 wave. So the politics looks a lot crazier because in blue states that were already nuts, there was at least a few Republican control, you know, levers that all went away. And that's why it looks completely insane now. And that's why the politics, as you said before, will be even further because they have nothing left in any of these places.

[Tim Pool]

I have to ask you your expertise on this as we're in the subject, but CNN has been accused of trying to moderate by bringing on voices like yours for the period that you were on and Scott.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Five and one quarter episodes.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, five and one quarter. So cnn, their ratings are in the gutter. And what everyone's basically saying is that they're realizing that this echo chamber of leftist liberal worldview is costing them viewership. They have to moderate. So they seek out personalities like yourself or Scott Jennings.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Is. Is that how you feel it happened or is that factually just what, like.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes, you're allowed to go on like specifically Abby show, which is two on two. It's usually like three on one because it's the one other Republicans, usually a person who hates Donald Trump or like as a former Republican or somebody who is like, basically like Mentally ill at this point. And they're just, like, on the way out, mentally. I've been on episodes like that, and. And they. The host is rooting against you. The host is trying to shut you down. I don't think I ever, really ever got a sentence out on. On that show and on the other show, too. Everything is built towards, you know, you get the script of what you're going to sit there and talk about, and it's why Donald Trump is the devil, why he is Hitler, and why all whites are racist. And you're like, okay, this is what I'm talking about. All right, let me get my talking points ready. And then, like, 30 minutes before the show, they said, actually, we scraped this, and we're actually doing a ton of completely different setup. And, yeah, be ready. And you have, you know, 90 seconds to speak on every issue, and we're going to interrupt you 30 times while you're doing it.

[Tim Pool]

Why the show then?

[Ryan Gruduski]

I mean, I thought it was fun. I mean, I had a blast. It was listening. It was fun because I got to sit there and say, yeah to Van Jones. Yeah, BLM was the worst thing that ever happened in. In the 2020 at the Democratic Party. I talked about the George Floyd effect, which was the first thing that ever went viral. When Abby sat there and said it didn't exist.

[Phil Labonte]

That was ridiculous.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes. And I sat there in a room full of race activists who said that they had never heard the term. And Abby, who wrote it for the Washington Post ten years prior was like, that's not true. And she wrote it. She wrote the Washington Post story.

[Tim Pool]

She's just lying.

[Ryan Gruduski]

She just. Because it's not about truth. It's about narrative. Yes. So to sit there and to break the narrative a little bit more and be really emboldened and breaking the narrative. Joke aside, the episode that I was kicked off for, the last part of that episode was supposed to be like a. How accurate is the media? Featuring Brian Stealth, who is like. And I just, like. I was, like, breaking out in hives going there. I was hot walking into the chair, and I was like, I'm gonna sit there and be like, brian Seltzer, you're a liar. Like, you lie all the time. I was like, I'm doing my last show on Sienna. I know I'll never get cast back. Not for that reason, but for the beeper reason. But the. I really went in there saying, no, this is a complete lie, but I wanted to sit there and fight the narrative over certain things and let it. Is he Evil.

[Tim Pool]

He's evil. I will say, say that he is an evil man.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think that he knows he is.

[Tim Pool]

Lying and he is doing it because he's got nefarious.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think he loves being on camera. I think he, I think he crave. I met him, I did his show with him. He loves, loves, loves being on camera. I think that's a big driver for him. But this is the guy who brought Stormy Daniel's lawyer and was like you should be president 150 times. And he's about accuracy in the media and why isn't the media have no integrity and they can never look at themselves and they have these bloated salaries. Yeah, they have a few good people at cnn. I love Scott. I've never met him, but he was great. Sir Michael Singleton is great. There are a few people. None of them have their own shows, none of them on platforms. We all live at the, you know, behest of liberals who sometimes are, you know, nonpartisan. But you're only allowed to say certain things. And that's when they sit there and they're allowed like, this is unacceptable. You're unacceptable for this. You're unacceptable for that. And they shut them down. Sher Michael said biolog, I think he said something like biological sex is real. Or, or he said, he said a man, man in women's bathrooms or whatever he said. And what was what he.

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Ryan Gruduski]

He said they were like, you're transphobic. The guy accused him being transphobic right then and there.

[Tim Pool]

There was that segment where the guy is like, stop. Oh, I won't hear it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Stop. That was episode. That was a segment. Yes. Yeah. And so you are. And then Abby made an apology on the part of Sher Michael.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You are always, always in control.

[Tim Pool]

You're.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You're allowed to run in that lane. And so sometimes it's great because you get to fight against it.

[Tim Pool]

But this is why, this is why.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They'Re all dying, though.

[Tim Pool]

This is why they're all dying. Because to be honest, if you went on a podcast and you had some dude basically trying to defend, you know, terrorism or whatever was going on, and then you made the Bieber joke, every podcast is going to be laughing and they're going to be like, oh, we got to book that guy. Guy. The cable network. Get him out, get him out. They could. And it's like, wait, wait, hold on.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Like a lot of comedians ask me on after that.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, do they really? Yeah, but it was like it, it was, it was a, it was a quick witted and Funny response to, to the constant barrage of you're a Nazi.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then they immediately feign victimhood of you're saying I should die Nazi from.

[Ryan Gruduski]

A guy who called non Muslims animals. All gays were pedophiles, all non Muslims were animals. And horrendous things about the Jews. And then in his, like, British accent, as he's bloating his chest slinging, they're saying, you know, Donald Trump uses the language of Joseph Goebbels. I'm like, off. Excuse my language. But like, I mean, like, you probably sat there and used that same language your whole life. I mean, like, give me a break. And that's why I kind of like lost it.

[Tim Pool]

You know the story of Amber Duke.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. Amber's a good friend of mine.

[Tim Pool]

She walked off the show.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes. For that episode from when I was on. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

She was called the Nazi by that looney Tune, whatever her name is.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And that, that this lady. Yeah, she loves that I call her that. And she was like, I'm not going to sit here and be called a Nazi. And then, you know, the long story short of it is I guess she's. No, they no longer have that woman on the show.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But Amber works for the network.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And they still. I think Amber said on your podcast that she was. That the other lady was booked on another show over Amber who works for the network.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That is crazy. But they feel. I don't know, I don't know why they give people those platforms. And you know, I've done Piers Morgan and sometimes he has people on. I'm like, I. Is there an insane asylum that's just a rotating, like, door?

[Tim Pool]

Yo, I. You ever see that movie Invasion with Nicole Kidman?

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, but I can get. The guy, can get the gist from the title astronaut.

[Tim Pool]

Astronaut comes back to Earth infected by some fungus.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then when you go to sleep, your hormones while you sleep activate the fungus and then turn you into a hive mind. Alien creature. Like, you look human and everything, but you're like emotion journalists. And then they vomit on other people to convert them. That's what it feels like is happening.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But how many of these people have ever worked either in A, real journalism or B, political, like work that talk about politics? Very, very, very few. They have no expertise on the issue. They are trying to create viral moments to create the dot com economy and really milk it. And that's why. And as long as you, as long as your business is built built on feigning outrage or making people angry or anxiety ridden, you have to go further every single time. There's no, you know, you know, there's no end in sight.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

So they are the epitome of like talking heads. They don't have any, you know, sources or they have sources, but they don't have any, like, sources either. Yeah, you got to write the first foundations against them. And they're, you know, they don't know what they're talking about. Just talking and speaking.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Talking heads used to be people who had a job and now they're like 60 or they're retired or whatever. They wrote a bunch of books because there's whatever. That's not these people. These people are like 23 and like, I have an opinion. Give who, like, okay, but this is. But they're building their entire economy on either being very charismatic or good looking and knowing absolutely nothing and having no work experience behind it. So it's very concerning if they get massive audiences. And that's what they said about the right with Trump is they said, oh, look at all those people listening to him. But at least they were funny and they were interesting. A lot of them were comedians. These people are saying crazy nonsense and getting people, I think, like emotionally and mentally disturbed.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, that's been the kind of the ammo for 10 years. Look at the reaction to Trump getting elected in 2016.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Where is that lady now who went on her knees and screamed, no, I want to know what happened.

[Phil Labonte]

Exact image that was.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I want to know where is she now?

[Phil Labonte]

Like, that's something. But like what you're talking about, that's exactly what the media has been doing to the American people forever. The idea that Donald Trump is a Nazi or that he was, that he was anything other than a 2000 aughts democrat, like democrat 90s and aughts democrat. That's exactly what he was. The. And everyone knew it. Oprah Winfrey and all these people. Whoopi Goldberg and he went on the View and everyone is all.

[Ryan Gruduski]

He went on Wendy Williams and did, like relationship advice. They all loved him. Oh, it's so good. It's so good. If you want to go on YouTube, it's so good. Yeah, but they're also, their dichotomy was that he was an evil, you know, Hitler esque person or a smart evil maniac or a fat orange. Yeah. And it was like living in both worlds at the same time.

[Phil Labonte]

And so they were Jews. Just. It was just the media continuously dumping this down people's throat. And when society is now at the point that we talked about earlier, where Everything is safetyism and children are children until they're 25, 26 or whatever, you're going to have people freaking out because the worst thing that's ever happened to them in their life is the election of Donald Trump.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But look how many books there were. Look at the Washington Post became financially solvent. The New York Times made tons of money. MSNBC and Sanders ratings in 2017 were gigantic. They loved it. You know this expression, if God wasn't real, we'd have to make him up. That expression, if Donald Trump wasn't real, they would have to make him up.

[Phil Labonte]

He was the best thing that's happened to many news stations.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think, I think for the average medium person who's not a news junkie, not a professional, not someone who listens to Joy reading, says, wow, she's got it all going on. But the average person who's just concerned because they're hearing, you know, news all the time, that's saying, this is, you know, a nut bag or whatever the case is. I think that there, I think part of the thing that the media did not anticipate is their exhaustion from eight years of it. And the lived experience that, oh, we didn't go to World War Three.

[Tim Pool]

Lived experience.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, Lefty, you're welcome.

[Ryan Gruduski]

The living experience of Trump being president. Yeah. Of Trump being spirit. Of Trump being president being like, oh, you know, we didn't go to World War iii. There was no camps.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. The results of the first Donald Trump presidency were very good for most people. And then you had the, you had Covid, which was actually very bad for everybody. And the argument made by the left was, we can handle this. The argument made was, Donald Trump is the reason why it was all messed up and we can make everything better and everyone.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And we're gonna have this 82 year old, he's got all the ideas and.

[Phil Labonte]

Everyone suffered and everyone suffered because of the policies of the Democrats and the inflation. Everyone suffered under that for a long time. All of these policies that the Democrats really, really had been championing. People saw the results and then they're like, wait a minute, Donald Trump was better. And I don't care that you're telling me that he's racist. I see him talking to people and he's doing it in his ham fisted silly comedy. It's Donald Trump's way. But he doesn't seem like he hates black people. He doesn't seem like he hates people just because they're brown. He doesn't seem like he hates women. Look at his, his chief of staff and all these people that he's appointed people are seeing that the lies from the left about Donald Trump are just.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That well and how many young liberals were also upset because there was no wifi in the camps that they were going to. I would probably trigger the hell out of them.

[Tim Pool]

That's the only thing that would probably. Well that is funny though when you see all these lefties who are cheering on Luigi Mangione, assuming he is. This hasn't. We don't know and I'm just like it is kind of funny but it actually isn't surprising that people who are really dumb don't understand that they are, are cheering for a world in which they would suffer because they're dumb.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Because most people presume that prosperity is the norm, they don't realize how one it's not normal in most of the world. It's very not normal in the history of the world and how fragile it is.

[Phil Labonte]

When you listen to people make the arguments against our health care system, they're always comparing it to an imaginary system that's perfect.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

The argument isn't against. They're not comparing it to Canada's health care system or the healthcare system system in, in the UK where, where there's actual tangible negatives, there are bad things that happen. Now I'm not gonna, I'm not trying to say that it's better that the U S system is better or cheaper.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Or whatever but improvements can't be made.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly. But there are trade offs and if you had single payer here in the US there would be things that would make them unhappy about that. So the idea that oh our system has these flaws which it does and then they're comparing it to this perfect world lawless system is, is something that's typical of, of the left when they're comparing our existing capitalist system with, with property rights and stuff comparing it to the utopian communism where nobody ever has to work.

[Ryan Gruduski]

It's not real.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But that's what they, I love when they sit there and say oh it's white men who screwed everything up. You know, if we had a world without white men running places we would be X, Y and Z. Which authoritarian country are you talking about right now? Because it's not anyone that I do not not point on the map, find the country with no white men and any executive experience maybe with the exception of Japan or you know, South Korea. What non authoritative country are you talking about right now? Because or one there that has as much prosperity or freedom as we do.

[Phil Labonte]

0 But this is, this is, this.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Is a narrative to make white people feel bad about those, because the average person has never thought of that before or seen it on the outside picture.

[Tim Pool]

It's the product of our press prosperity. Right? We, we, we as a nation have to, have to, you know, you have to teach the younger generations about these things. But we have, these urban liberal types do not understand what the world is at all. And they think they're really smart. They think they're smarter than you. These people would not have, like, look, I, I, I don't think anybody would ever make any liberal who wants to make the argument that this statement is going to be wrong will be laughing, laughed at. If you took your average run of the mill conservative and your average run of the mill liberal and dropped them both isolated in the middle of like the Yukon territory, far north, which one has a higher chance of survival?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, definitely not the lib.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Death. Definitely not the lib.

[Tim Pool]

Literally, no question. The conservative to any degree. You, you go to a rural area, you drive around here. Most people 99% Trump supporters, not all of them.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

There's like an anti Trump flag somewhere. Mostly. What do they have? They all have chickens.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So they get fresh eggs in the morning. And I'm not saying it's the most profound thing in the world, but. Yo, J, that video where the woman is like, so my friend came over to my house and she was like, kayla, why do you have lemons in your lemon tree? And she goes, because I sometimes use it to cook. It goes, yeah, I know, but like, why are, why do you have store bought lemons in your fridge? And she goes, because I cook with them. And she goes, kayla, you have a lemon tree outside. And she goes, yeah, but I have the ones from the store to cook with. And she goes, why don't you just eat the lemons outside? And she goes, you can.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Is this real, real video? This was a real video.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

This was a bit 100.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I, I hope it was a bit, but I don't think it was.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

But this is true. Like, I mean, look, I would love.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I would love in every school if they taught a class like an 8th grade or high school called like the End of the World class, which is about like when a civilization collapsed and what got it there and just different ones across the world because people don't know how easy and fragile and broken things are and they just don't repair.

[Tim Pool]

I'll tell you what, what bothers me.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Is that what bothers You, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

What bothers me is when people come and we have chickens and they. And. And I'll be like, hey, can you grab the eggs? And they'll wash them.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I've learned I don't wash them anymore.

[Tim Pool]

People don't understand. I'm not.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Why would you wash an eggshell?

[Tim Pool]

Because they look dirty. Because they were on the ground and there's poop on them, but there's.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No. No, but you're not eating the eggshell.

[Tim Pool]

So people wash them off because they're like, oh, this is gross. And then you wash off the bloom and they spoil. You can put them in the fridge. They'll last for a long time. But it's like, you take the eggs, they're poopy, and they have dirt, and you leave them. You're not eating the shell. Leave it alone. Wash it when you're going to eat it, but you don't wash it before. My point is, it's not just that, that I'm being silly about, but I have had people be like, we. We get fresh eggs right from the coop, and they'll be like, what do we have to do to eat them? And I'll be like, break it open and eat it. And they'll be like, you got to do something to them. And I'm like, no, you just break it open and eat it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

What do they think happens?

[Tim Pool]

Because the eggs are all white, they think they're cleaned and bleached and prepared. People. I tell you, man, when on our other property in Maryland, it kind of sucks when we moved because there's fruit all over the place. We have pawpaw, we had cherries, we had apples, we had grapes, and we had wine berries. And I would go out frolicking like Homer Simpson in the land of chocolate chocolate, grabbing all the berries. Blackberries. We had wild blackberries, black raspberry. I can't tell you how many people that would come into the studio, and I'd be like, check this out. And I'd be grabbing it all, and they'd be like, can I. Can I eat it? And I'm like, bro, it's an apple. Take it off the tree and bite it. Look, I've never done that before. I'm like, wow, man. These are not even necessarily liberals. Sorry, it's not even necessarily liberals. It's people who live in cities don't know these things. And again, I'm not pretending I'm a survivalist. I'm just saying based off the fact that I know you can take an apple off A tree and eat it because I watch the deer do it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And, yeah. And, and, and that urban liberals are less likely to understand how to find water. You put a. The society ends yo the cities. The water turns off in three days. Conservatives have wells. It's wild. Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I was just saying that we've all been taught that you, you don't think unless you live out in the area where there's fruit and there's plants out there that you can actually. You don't have to clean off your, your eggs. You don't have to.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, I mean, I, I, I, I just would never.

[Tim Pool]

Operation is required.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, you see it pretty in the markets. You're like, okay, what do they do to get there? But no, you don't need it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know. That was, that's like, that would be like cleaning off like the skin from the orange. It just would make no sense because you typically don't eat the, the, the.

[Tim Pool]

Have you seen a fresh chicken egg from a coup brother?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

It's covered in chicken crap.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

But that's still, they look at that.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I could see you wiping it off. Off so it doesn't drop into the pan. But I don't see why you would wash it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Like watering it down.

[Tim Pool]

You water it down. They take a cloth and water and they wipe them off.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You don't do that.

[Phil Labonte]

You're not scrubbing them.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, I'm talking if there's like, in a dishwasher, if there's like bird crap falling into your pan, you don't want that to happen.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

True.

[Tim Pool]

That's the only thing my point is, it's not meant to be disrespectful. It's that they think preparation is required for a lot of these foods. No, I walk out and it's pawpaw season, like beginning of October, and you grab it off the tree and you just rip it open and you can eat it. I'm not a big fan of pawpaw.

[Ryan Gruduski]

By the way, but I'm of the assumption that like 70% of the public is either mentally ill, obese, or like completely useless. So I, I just, I mean, this doesn't shock me, but. And maybe my 70% is low, but I mean, yeah, this is, this checks out. This absolutely checks out. That we. Washing eggs before eating them.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Do you guys wash potatoes before you eat them from the store? Do you go put it in the potatoes?

[Tim Pool]

Well, there, there's, there's a couple supposed to look at it. If you get a fresh potato, you, you Actually want there to be a little bit of dirt on it. This is actually a source of a lot of B vitamins, and when people started washing it off, it actually is a contributing factor to malnutrition. Some think. I don't know for sure, but, you know, that's. That's a little bit more nuanced, I suppose.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You wash your chicken before you cook it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I usually take off the feathers first. I kill it, and then I. Yeah, okay.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But you don't wash the skin.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The skin?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no.

[Phil Labonte]

Some people watch those beans.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, people watch.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

And I have washed the chicken.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No. Yeah, No, I don't. Was the chicken either.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Certain culture does, apparently.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. I'm Italian, so I put olive oil and garlic and literally skin. Oh, yeah, and literally everything skin.

[Tim Pool]

F my Froot Loops. Garlic and olive oil. All right, we're going to go to Super Chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that, like button? Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with everyone. You know, my friends. Head over to timcast.com click join us to become a member. Because guess what? Maybe you don't care about the uncensored show. Well, as a member, you get 15% off cast brew.com coffee forever. So become a member and you'll get that promo code. And then you too can enjoy the wonderful Casper Coffee at a discounted price. But we're gonna have that members only show coming up at 10pm so you don't want to miss it. It's fun. And you as members, get to call in and talk to us and our guest. Here we go. We got the Emperor's Champion. It says hello there. So this is alleged. This alleged mothership thing. A balloon. This is the second time our airspace has been violated during the Biden administration. I'm assuming it's a. A boat of some sort that is launching these vessels, but honestly, I have no idea.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it's more than the second time. If there's been multiple sightings of the. Or if there's multiple, it's got to.

[Tim Pool]

Be like, in the water.

[Phil Labonte]

UAV things, you know?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I don't know. Quantum strange quirk says radar should show where they're coming from. If it's from a mothership off the coast, why hasn't the Navy destroyed it? Something doesn't add up. Yeah, Jeff, Andrew could be wrong.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, that's easy. That is a good point, though. If there's a boat in the middle sending things out, they could just seize the boat. Boat, Right.

[Tim Pool]

That's why it's Kind of like. How's that? It's underwater, maybe. I don't know. And it, like, pops up and launches. Adrenaline goes back down. That'd be scary.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That would be terrifying.

[Phil Labonte]

I do think it's worth, like, the US Finding out, though. Like, the military finding out where these.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Think of all countries, Iran has that capability. I don't know, considering they. Their scientists are being killed, like, once a year. It's like the purge of scientists. I don't know if they have that ability, but maybe they.

[Tim Pool]

It's like the highest. It's a job with the highest mortality.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Iranian scientists.

[Ryan Gruduski]

It's like comedians and then, like, Iranian scientists. In that order. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And it's like the Iranians kill their own comedians, but it's foreign. All right. JRG Project says the drone story reminds me of Ace Combat 7's arsenal. Arsenal bird that deploys AI drones. Time to fire up my F. My F4J Phantom 2. The old school fighters are the best. No idea.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

Ace Combat was a fun game.

[Tim Pool]

Aculara says the Pentagon denied that the drones are from Iran. Aliens. That prove proves it. They're aliens.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Got them.

[Tim Pool]

There's no other explanation. And that's it? That's it. Matthew C. Kershner says, well, alien invasion is the next nine. Eleven, they said. Who's they, though? It'd be funny if it was aliens, you know, because we were supposed to get aliens a few years ago, and they never came. Then they claimed that aliens were going to come last week, and they didn't.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Aliens are always going to the places that no one wants to visit, though. I just. There's, like. There's zero chance that these people. Why? And why are every video of an alien space ship, like, the like, taken out of a phone from 2003? Like, every single one is literally a phone from 2003's video quality of an.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Alien spaceship because they got to zoom in on it. Maybe.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know what it is. It's just zoom. It could be zoom, but every one.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Of them, they look like jacks apparently, too.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I don't know. I don't. I'm not. I'm not a big believer in the alien.

[Tim Pool]

Well, P. Sh's helicopter tour says radar requires things to beat a certain al Altitude. Oh, there you go. Mechanical mercenary. We did read this one, but he said they're manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing can't shoot around pilots down. I think there's a possibility that's. That. That seems likely. There was A funny story where people reported seeing UFOs and the news unironically, I can't remember which outlet said unironically, said the sightings come just 70 miles away from an advanced aerospace technological base for the Navy. And like, what? So it's completely explained and we know exactly what it is. Go, guys.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Duh.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, it's like that. It's like that video from Mississippi where they saw the leprechaun.

[Tim Pool]

What was. Oh, where was it? Just nothing in the tree and they were pointing at it or whatever.

[Ryan Gruduski]

There was greatest Internet video ever made.

[Tim Pool]

There was a viral trend on. On Twitter a long time ago where everybody started posting videos randomly of military vehicles on military personnel in the streets, military vehicles driving through cities, trains carrying tanks. And they were all in on this, this decentralized gag where they would find any photo from anywhere in the country, post it and claim it was one town. And it went viral, started trending, and there were people who actually believed there was this big military operation happening in some town.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, that doesn't shock me.

[Tim Pool]

Those were the days of the Internet, man. Wild west of the good old days of the wild west Internet. Now it's all boring. All apps, no websites. What's going on? Huh?

[Phil Labonte]

I think that I've heard people say that web based things are coming back and they want to see an end to apps because it's become ridiculous how.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Many apps you have to download.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

You remember when you used to like, have to type in like your Facebook password to like pay your mortgage? Like, there was like, literally like, you had to like click on everything their Gmail password or a Facebook password. Like, what? Why?

[Phil Labonte]

I was never, like, I never did any of that stuff with Facebook or Gmail.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I couldn't understand how to do. Yeah, that was very frustrating moment. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I wouldn't want g, Google or Facebook involved with my mortgage payment at all, ever. It's. It's plenty for me to be dealing with the bank. I'm all set. That's enough.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's kind of where they have the third party of someone like that to have involvements into your payments.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, absolutely not that.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And you have to find all the parking lights in order to sit there and like, you know, get into your bank account. I'm like, what is this really stopping every.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, that was just that they wanted that because they were te. Because Google was teaching AI all of that. All the captcha stuff was teaching AI.

[Ryan Gruduski]

What were they teaching AI?

[Phil Labonte]

They were teaching AI how to. How to identify things. Every time you solve the capture, it was actually being recorded.

[Ryan Gruduski]

It was all the same. There's a stop sign, a train, a bike, a car to identify sidewalk.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The the crosswalk was the one I remember.

[Phil Labonte]

It was. It's teaching AI. It's helping, it's helping you or it's everybody helping to teach AI to identify pictures stuff.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Do you think that that's part of the why like Elon bought Twitter was to make it like to teach Grok like people's lives?

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

You think that? I think that the, the most of the AI stuff that that Tesla is doing or information they get. I'm sure that Tesla's a. Twitter is a massive, massive database so he has access to all the tweets and stuff like that. But most of the the teaching of the AI comes from like full self driving. All the Tesla cars that report back to to Tesla they all are helping to teach the, the AI all the, all the full self driving and all the, the draw. You know all that stuff goes back to Tesla and they use that to, to teach AI.

[Tim Pool]

1 one of the first arguments was that X is the best form of communication for between a Mars based civilization. That if there's an effective means to communicate that doesn't require an immediate back and forth. The 20 minutes it would take to send a TW tweet is no issue because the way you communicate on Twitter is like thought and then it just goes out.

[Ryan Gruduski]

So that's why communicate to and from Mars basically.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, basically if someone lived on Mars and was tweeting, you'd have a constant connection with them despite the fact it took 20 minutes to send in.

[Ryan Gruduski]

So like a Martian be like do we use the hard R or no.

[Tim Pool]

Right, exactly.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's like what?

[Tim Pool]

Or they might say like we're not on Earth so you can't cancel us anyway. All right. Another YouTube channel says a few months ago I was driving at night and saw 3 car. 3 car sized drones flying single file lower than I would have expected. Kind of freaked me out. Near Folsom Ca. Well that's. That proves it was Bigfoot.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Folsom, isn't that near the prison?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, Folsom Prison.

[Tim Pool]

Bigfoot flying around in spacecraft. That's, you know, Bigfoot was an alien Dark El Hound says Gloucester County NJ Fire has radio traffic from a medevac helicopter about drones in Hammond, New Jersey. Yeah, the report is that they were blocked by it at this helicopter was trying to move and then the drones were swarming around so they couldn't.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But the drones are probably the same almost the same size of the helicopter.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

They're at SUV size.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Tim Pool]

That's why it's weird. They're saying they're drones. Just call them. I don't know.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And there's no way that they had a pilot inside them?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Well, someone said they did, but.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, because if they had a pilot inside and you shot it down, then that's an act of war. Possibly. I mean, so I could see why you wouldn't want to shoot down a pilot piloted plane.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

But also they're. So they should be a different name then, like if they're drones. Because drones, you don't think of. I mean, I've seen them do pesticides before, and they're not drone size. They're like the smart car size, but they're not, you know, big SUV size. So they get big.

[Ryan Gruduski]

People think that thing that drops the Amazon box off.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, they're definitely not tiny. All the time I'm waiting for one.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Of those boxes to, like, kill the family dog because they dropped on Amazon. It's like a heavy box. I'm waiting for that to happen on video and that will be the end of those things flying around for a while.

[Tim Pool]

All right, what do we got here? Sam T. Says, guys, come on. You are all intelligent and know your history. Nothing happens in the US Skies without the knowledge of one of the agencies running on a black budget. What does it say? F117B2U2 were all born there. The tech is only 40 years ahead. The tech is 40 years ahead.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, yeah, I think we're. We're America. And.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And that should be our logo. I mean, that should be our motto underneath, like, enter United States. Yeah, we're America.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And we would see it. We would see. We should. We would. I would think that we have the radars and everything detectable to see anyone coming.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They're definitely. I think that they know there's zero.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Doubt in our ability.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No, they're just not saying.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Brian M. Says, why no talk about Israel expanding its empire in Syria and beyond? Christians will be stomped. What's Israel? I've never. Never heard of that place. Is that. Is that prominent in the media, perhaps? Anyone?

[Phil Labonte]

It's going to be. The chat is going to be on fire.

[Tim Pool]

Now, these small, irrelevant countries we are not familiar with. I'm sorry, I have no comment. I don't know. We talked about Syria the other day. I don't know what more we have to add. The U.S. israel and Turkey have Been launching strikes in Syria. Syria's government collapsed. It's going to get really, really bad for the people who live there.

[Phil Labonte]

I guess there were some strikes. Israel struck Syria's navy and took it out and took over a large portion of it out. And people are like, oh, you know, why did they do that? Blah, blah, blah. It's like, look, man, if they're, if Syria has actually been taken over by, you know, former Al Qaeda terrorists and they're going to restart the isis, or restart isis, the Islamic State, if it's actually going to be, be that, do you really want them to be able to project force in the Mediterranean? I don't think anyone wants that.

[Tim Pool]

And as everyone knows, Israel has never done anything wrong ever. Absolutely perfect country. The bastion of good natured.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You kick them when you're, when they're down too.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I also, I also don't, I'm not, I don't know enough about Syria to sit there, make, you know, informed conversations. I know like the WNBA and Syria are almost on the same level for me, so I'm not going to really be jumping into this one.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. All right, we got Lega says what if Faltis has been talking about the revolt of Incels for a while now. Yes, he has indeed. And technically his counter, we were wrong. It, it probably is closer to like seven. Yeah, I heard yesterday Rudyard lynch is a YouTuber. What if altist and he, he made a bet.

[Ryan Gruduski]

His name is what?

[Tim Pool]

Rudyard.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Rudyard Altus. Okay. I don't know this Rudyard lynch. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And his YouTube channel is what if alt history. What Defaultist. He said that by April, 1,000 people United States will be dead due to domestic political violence.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

I don't agree.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Only 1,1000 people at least. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And so he said, so this is.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Before people have been killed after Trump election. There was that guy in Minnesota did kill his whole family, but like, right.

[Tim Pool]

And then there was the one who killed her dad. There is the CEO. Obviously politically motivated, so we believe right now. And then there was a woman was killed in. Someone swatted Marjorie Taylor Greene. The bomb squad crashed into the car killing the woman. So that counts as a politically, you know, motivated death. So it is like seven. And, and the response from a lot of people is either it's ridiculous to assume that me people are going to die. Others are saying wait till January 20th when Trump starts rubber stamping.

[Ryan Gruduski]

When is the date of this 1000 number by April. April. So there's like.

[Tim Pool]

Or did he say end of April?

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not sure if he said by.

[Ryan Gruduski]

April, there's between four to five months for this 1,000 number. They're at seven right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, man, if there's 900 dead on April 1st, I'm gonna be like, look, man, maybe it's not a thousand, but it's looking pretty close. Pretty close.

[Tim Pool]

Not only that, I was saying if it's, if it, if 200 like his, he, he may have, he may lose the bet. But we understand his point. Right, Exactly. He said Donald Trump's gonna win. Historically, we can see the parallels as to what kind of, what's going to happen between these ideologies. And he thinks that civil war is, is likely. But people misunderstand what civil wars are. They think American civil war every single time. And I agree with him on this point. He said, are there going to be standing armies from various states lining up against other factions? No, of course not. But Obama golf in Chicago.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, but they didn't happen in 2017.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's a different world.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I think you overestimate how many people like, okay, how many people play sports versus watch it and say we won when they're eating like a box of Cheetah, a bag of Cheetos.

[Tim Pool]

That's actually a really good point for a civil war.

[Ryan Gruduski]

No. Because most of them don't. Are not going to do anything.

[Tim Pool]

You're right. Right. They don't need to be. The sport is played by a small amount.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. I don't think that. I think you've overestimate the laziness of most people or I think you overestimate.

[Tim Pool]

The requirement of population to destabilize a country.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You need a small amount of people to have a revolution. Yeah, Anything.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You don't need them.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes, that is correct. In, like, cities like New York and Washington, a very small percentage of the population make up a majority of homicides. That is like 100% true. But civilization doesn't fall apart afterwards. Words.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Hey, no one said it's falling apart.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, didn't. Yeah, didn't say the civilization would fall apart.

[Tim Pool]

No civil war.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, civil war would happen.

[Tim Pool]

But he, his point is, so it'd.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Be like more, more like Northern Ireland than the American Civil War.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that would be like a civil, a heavy civil strife period. Academics believe we are in a civil strife period already. So this is left and right. Different academics. And then they blame each other. Like the left is the right fault. Right to left.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

But so either we resolve the civil strife, which has happened in the past too, but if it escalates beyond this, then the academics, the scale is the period we're in now which has, I think Stephen Marsh said civil strife is defined as 70 politically motivated deaths per year, which we exceed greatly. And that would be.

[Ryan Gruduski]

What are we at?

[Tim Pool]

Well, above that.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I just want. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know the exact number, but.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay, I don't know. Yeah, okay.

[Tim Pool]

The problem I have with that assessment is that the politically motivated deaths are wildly death disparate. It's like, I understand if you are saying it's civil strife because you have the anti abortion and pro abortion factions and they're fighting and you're like, 70 people died in the abortion conflict. That's going to bubble up. But right now the politically motivated deaths are like, this guy's a sovereign citizen, that guy hates the Jews.

[Ryan Gruduski]

This guy thinks black nationalists or white.

[Tim Pool]

Right, right. They're all different.

[Ryan Gruduski]

But like 70 deaths in a nation of like, I guess 50 million is a lot, but 70 destination of 350 million is no, I think different. No for 70. For.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's us. Like that's what saying when political tension gets this hot, that we see this many instances.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay, got.

[Tim Pool]

But I don't know. Again, I don't know if I agree. However, the idea of civil war is like a lot of people, what they do is they look to the American Civil War and they're like, well, when the states start lining up against each other, and that's never been any civil war ever, ever, except for the United States. So usually what happens is urban factions rise up, they take control of urban elements, and that's all you see. Then a conflict arises between rural elements. And the rural elements tend to cut off the urban centers because they can't survive. And then conflict starts popping up until it reaches ahead and then you get people going crazy. So if you look at like Syria, for instance, it didn't start as a civil war. It started with like 13 different factions of protest groups going around refusing and blocking streets. And then Assad starts shooting people. Then he says, but they were terrorists attacking us. And then what do we get several years later? Isis, al Qaeda and.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, but you also had a lot of other countries invested in that civil.

[Tim Pool]

That always happens too.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, you had a lot of countries sitting there and saying, funneling arms and weapons and money, including the United States.

[Tim Pool]

And this is absolutely a component of what may happen in the United States is I think the true civil strife period would be what. What Rudyard is describing. If we see bombs going off in cities like Chicago or whatever, and we get to that point, I would say that's strike life. And then if we see intervention on the part of any foreign adversary to a certain faction. Now you're starting to get into that territory of where this could be a real civil war. But I'm. I'm not. I'm not thinking that's likely anytime soon. A thousand deaths is kind of like, yo, that's a wild prediction to make. But he bet a thousand bucks on it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

He did.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, it's not a lot of money either. He's fine. He's.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Is he, like. Is that a lot of money?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You know?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Okay, yeah, let's grab some more.

[Tim Pool]

We got eagle eyes. As articles I've read imply, Luigi got surgery for his chronic back pain. The surgery. Your surgery, went bad, which caused erectile dysfunction. Implication is he wouldn't have been able. He wouldn't have been an incel. If it wasn't for the surgery. Born rich. But we don't know if he had access to that money. That. That could be it. We could be misinterpreted. Interpreting the news as he was in pain so he couldn't bang, when in actuality, it was. He said he had numbness.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

This is true. According to the story, he had numbness.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Down there. And maybe he was saying, like, oh, I can't feel anything.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Feel anything. Yeah. And he got no. No enjoyment of using a turkey baster, so.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's what you did.

[Phil Labonte]

Gross.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe that's why he's mad.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

He felt the pain.

[Tim Pool]

Jeez, man.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Shout out to anybody.

[Tim Pool]

54 says, does anyone actually think a Manhattan jury will convict this guy? Which guy?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, which.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Which guy?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Got to be.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, the Luigi. Yeah, that's Luigi. Yes. A Manhattan jury would convict that guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I. I feel he would.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. Unless they were from, like, Hell's kitchen or, like, Staten island.

[Phil Labonte]

They would if it was everybody from Brooklyn.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. Yeah. Certain pockets. But if it's a disparate. I had to do jury duty in New York, and it was absolutely like the meetings of every insane person you could possibly run into on a day in New York City. And that was. It was great. 1.

[Phil Labonte]

All the smart people get out of it because they figure out how.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Well, one Jewish lady was like. She told me she, like, I think if the cops do something, they're always right. And you know what? I'll probably be in jail at the end of the day for saying that out loud. And I was like, lady, I don't I didn't ask you for your opinions. I mean like, I'm just here like you are.

[Tim Pool]

It's a really funny point. 30 JD says. Tim Ryan. It's ironic to say 25 year olds have the minds of children, but my fiance, second graders have racial, sexual and physical minds of 25 year olds.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That's really well put.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Ryan Gruduski]

That is really, really. Well, no, but like it not. They have, they have, they have a life experience of that. And when, when does a brain fully develop? Is it 25? 25? Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

24. 20.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, but I don't understand the, like when children, when adults rather look at kids like they are all knowing beings and we're going to just mess them up and you're like, no, they don't know what the colors are. Like, this is, this is not. They're not. This is not Yoda. As a little.

[Tim Pool]

Is that a lot of these liberal activists don't have kids and have not interacted with kids.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And they've never had the experience of a parent saying shit. And then the kid starts going. And they're like, oh, stop saying oh man.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Remember when JD told JD was like, he's like. When this kid was like talking about Pokemon while he's on the call with Trump and he's like, shut the hell up. And people were liberals, like, how could he say it to a child? I'm like, yeah, seven year old. Sometimes you say shut the hell up to them. Like, it happens. It absolutely happens.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You know kids, you got to tell them, be quiet. I don't know what to tell you. Like, but these are the people who don't have kids and never experienced kids. And they're also. And if they do, they're the kind of people that will be in a restaurant with their kids screaming and they'll be like, your problem, not mine.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Or the people who negotiate with their children who are under five. That makes me. And you're at a friend's house and you want to tell them like, you need to do something about your kid because I'm going to kill myself being around. Like, I have Never disliked a 4 year old so much in my life. If you ask them like, how do you want to go to the car? No, just take pick them up and drag them.

[Tim Pool]

What you should do is when you have a friend come over to your house and they bring their four year old and the four year old's acting up, instead of just making it awkward and saying stuff, just pull out a muzzle and a leash, be like, this Is a gift for you. You can deal with your child.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But, you know, the problem is that liberals take everything literally. And so they're gonna be like, Tim Paul thinks the children should be muzzled at least.

[Phil Labonte]

But they make legitimate leashes for kids. They're not. They do go after your. They don't have to go around the neck. No, they don't have to go around.

[Ryan Gruduski]

If you go to the airport, it's.

[Phil Labonte]

Harness and you can hook them up and you know, just.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And you get like 25ft, like leeway or whatever. 10ft and it stops, you know, like freedom oriented here.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Why would you want a 4 year old 25ft? I mean, that's like.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I switch it to 10, give them 10.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I wouldn't ever do the leash thing, but I can certainly understand, like in an airport where it's very crowded, you'd be kind of concerned about. But I think the problem is people have too much. Stranger danger phobia.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Where they think the world's ending and your kid's gonna get snatched.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, I get like, okay, I. It. That's not the problem. The problem is people who do not believe in any level of discipline for their child at any age. That is a far bigger problem. I shouldn't be at a. I've been at tables with people that I know and their kid is screaming at the top of their lungs and they're just like, Just pretend it's not happening. How? Like, how am I pretending it's not happening?

[Tim Pool]

Gotta get the water bottle and go.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, I grew up with the wooden spoon. My mom loves.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I. My grandmother love that wooden spoon.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, see, I think a spritzer bottle is more humane.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It is.

[Tim Pool]

It sends the message. But it doesn't leave a welt.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And you don't break the spoon on your person's hand.

[Ryan Gruduski]

They never broke the spoon. But yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, works on my cat. And the cat stops chewing on stuff.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Well, leather. I hear cats likes leather.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Allison told you about sheamus eating her purse.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The cat is chewing on all the leather. So he. He chewed through the purse strap and not duct tape back together. Aren't cats fun? Everybody loves cats.

[Phil Labonte]

Damn shamus nummy.

[Tim Pool]

Yep, yep. We are launching a new coffee called Luck of the Sheamus.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, nice.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's for one.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The. Yeah, the.

[Ryan Gruduski]

The person.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no, it's Seamus two.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but on the back. Seamus one. So Seamus two is the cartoonist?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so it's freedom tunes art, and it's an Irish cream Why, Jim?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Seamus.

[Tim Pool]

Why do we name the cat Sheamus after our friend Seamus?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

Seamus Coughlin, the cartoonist.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

But actually, we decided to give Seamus the cat. The cat is Shame is one, and the cartoonist is shame is two.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Got it. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And there's a Seamus three.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Now, Seamus is, like, very common, like, with Irish people. I have Seamuses in my family. But, like, I don't know ever anyone who's not Irish who, like, names someone's Seamus.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we were. We were driving in the car, and we. We had a name for him. It was probably, like, Herman or something. And then I jokingly said, we should call the cat Seamus, and Allison laughed, and Seamus goes, you guys are bad friends. And then I was like, well, now we have to do it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I was.

[Tim Pool]

I was joking. But then Allison was like, no, we've. We already call him Seamus, but I call him James now because I don't respect the ir.

[Phil Labonte]

If you don't know this, never let on that something bothers you. If someone's, like, poking, I don't think it really bothered.

[Tim Pool]

I think it was joking. But now I. I do call. His name is James. Like Mr. Bocus, our last cat, his name was Bucko, and then it turned into a bunch of different words until we ended up with his name being Bocus.

[Ryan Gruduski]

All right.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Mr. Bocas, right?

[Tim Pool]

Rest in peace. Yeah. Mr. Bocus.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It was funny because when he was dying, we called the vet, and we told the vet that his name was Mr. Bocus, and they kept saying Bocus, and we were like, it's Mr. Bocus.

[Ryan Gruduski]

I call my dog's name is Royal Tenniban after the movie character, but it's Royal 10 of bound.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's a long one, too.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yeah. My favorite movies. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Corag says Rule 916D of the Manual for court marshal says soldiers that follow orders they knew were illegal will be dishonorably discharged and criminally charged. We need this nationally as well for all levels of law enforcement.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Amen.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's not a bad idea.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's a great idea.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Just following orders should not cut it anymore.

[Tim Pool]

We got a correction. Sterling Wilson says Tim Mugsy Bogs didn't dunk. Spud Webb was the dunk champ you're thinking of.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oaks is 5:3. Webb was 5:7. Let's shout out the shortest player and the shortest dunk champ in NBA history.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Nice.

[Tim Pool]

Great name drops. So I did. Did quickly check. Bogues apparently did dunk in practice, but he never did in an Actual game, likely meaning he had the capability to do it, but at a high level play against other players. It probably wasn't. It was probably riskier to do and harder to do. So there you go.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Are you fact checking the super chats as they come in?

[Tim Pool]

Somewhat. So no, they fact check me. What do you mean no?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

But then you looked up and said who it was that you. That he does dunk, that he.

[Tim Pool]

That he reportedly dunked in practice, right?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But not in any games. Noah Bass says, I started my first small business at 8 years old, pulling trash cans. Every week I charge 50 cents per can, making nearly 500 bucks a year as a little kid. I attribute that experience to my work ethic today. Let me tell you what my friends would do. We'd go to Aldi and when people were walking out with their groceries, we would say, excuse me, ma'am, can we take that cart back for you? And they would go, absolutely. We made a quarter.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Nobody cared about the quarter. And they didn't want to walk back. They'd be like, cat, take it. And then we'd collect quarters and we would buy packs of Pokemon cards with them. That's how you do it.

[Ryan Gruduski]

Wow. Back in the good old day.

[Tim Pool]

Back in the good old days, my friends. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Become a member by going to timcast.com and clicking join us. And when you do, not only are you going to get that members only uncensored show coming up in about a minute, you're going to get 15% off cast brew.com coffee forever. So check that out. Become a member. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast Ryan. Do you want to shout anything out?

[Ryan Gruduski]

Yes. Please check out my newsletters on national popular newsletter on substack, my pack the 1776 project and my podcast coming out in January, which is it's a numbers game with Ryan Gki.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Hey friends, I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Appreciate all being here. Follow me at X and Raymond G. Stanley Jr. If you're a young man and he didn't want to join the service of Marine Corps before Trump because I got a lot of flack on that. You should definitely now, now that you feel safe, it's okay. You join the military and clean it up from the inside out. And also I'm, I'm alive.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. You can subscribe to my Twix page there. I'm Philly remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains new record is available January 31st that is called antifragile. If you want to go ahead and pre order that you can go to my Twix page. It's the Pin tweet. You can go to YouTube and check out our new videos for forever cold, let you go, no Tomorrow and Divine. They're all going to be on the new record. You can check them out on YouTube, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crying.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you all [e-mail] in about one minute. Thanks for hanging out. All right, we're all set for the party. I've trimmed the tree, hung the mistletoe, and paired all those weird shaped knives and forks with the appropriate cheeses.

[Ryan Gruduski]

And I plugged in the Partisan Partisan.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ryan Gruduski]

I'm thirsty.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Ryan Gruduski]

I just pop in a capsule, choose.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ryan Gruduski]

Feel more seasonal in here already.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ryan Gruduski]

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[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

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