GOP Rep Threatens Hillary Clinton With CRIMINAL CHARGES Over Epstein w/ JP Sears & Cody Dennison

Summary

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Timcast IRL – November 20, 2025

Episode Title: GOP Rep Threatens Hillary Clinton With CRIMINAL CHARGES Over Epstein w/ JP Sears & Cody Dennison
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: JP Sears, Cody Dennison, Phil Labonte, Brett Dasovic

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the mounting controversy around the House Oversight Committee's threats of criminal charges against Hillary and Bill Clinton for refusing to answer subpoenas regarding the Jeffrey Epstein case. The panel examines media coverage, political hypocrisy, bipartisan protectionism, and public skepticism about government accountability. Alongside, the crew dissects the broader implications on political culture, technology, and how the shifting media landscape might be changing public perception.

Throughout, the panel keeps the discussion irreverent and satirical, infusing commentary with humor even as they wade into serious and controversial waters.

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Main Discussion and Key Insights

1. Criminal Charges Threatened Against Clintons (07:05–13:22)

• News Recap: Tim Pool summarizes the Newsweek headline – House Oversight Chair James Comer threatens criminal exposure for Bill and Hillary Clinton after their refusal to comply with Jeffrey Epstein-related subpoenas.
• Mockery of Media and Political Inaction:
  • Tim is openly skeptical:

    "No Republicans got the chutzpah to actually do it. So I don't even know why Newsweek is writing about it..." (07:10)

  • Panel sees these threats as largely political theater – treats the scenario of actual Clinton imprisonment jokingly:

    JP Sears: "Netflix could do a reality like women's prison show. That would be great. You gotta imagine Hillary's gonna be the boss..." (13:08)

  • They liken a Clinton prison stint to a mob movie scenario, with Hillary running the place in style (13:45).
• Commentary on Aging Politicians:
  • Discussion shifts to the relevance of prosecuting the Clintons at this stage of their lives and careers.
  • Tim questions if it’s “just throwing some rotted red meat at the base” rather than substantive justice (11:01).

Notable Quote

JP Sears: “I would have expected Newsweek say, yeah, we reached out to Clinton's for comment, but our reporter wound up hanging themselves in a tree. Kind of a self inflicted gunshot wound. Two of them to the gun found 30ft away. It's suicide.”
(10:00 – Gallows humor referring to the Clinton conspiracy meme)

2. Epstein and Bipartisan Hypocrisy (16:48–22:37)

• Stacey Plaskett and Epstein:
  • Tim highlights that Democrat Stacey Plaskett actively collaborated with Epstein, leveraging his intel for political attacks against Trump.
  • Democrats now try to pin Epstein’s legacy on Trump, despite clear evidence Epstein hated Trump (22:37).
• Bipartisan Protection and Congressional Swamp:
  • Some Republicans protected Plaskett from censure in a “backroom deal,” exposing that the “swamp” isn’t just one party (24:16).
  • Phil Labonte:

    "It goes beyond just, you know, one party. Clearly, this is something where Congress will protect Congress because they're hoping that, well, when I need that vote, they'll vote for me." (24:16)

• Public Trust and Political 'Weasel Words':
  • The group explores why the public distrusts the political elite:

    Brett Dasovic: “…This is why people have a default status to just not trust anything a government official says. Because more often than not, you're going to be right…” (23:55)

Notable Moment

• Tim sarcastically invites the guests to share their experience texting congressional representatives, pointing out how absurd Plaskett’s claim (“Epstein was my constituent”) is in context (24:36).

3. Epstein Files Release, Victim Testimony, and List Speculation (28:00–31:45)

• Naming Names and 'The List':
  • Panel discusses why Epstein victims haven’t publicly named powerful abusers: fear of lawsuits or retaliation is suggested (29:48).
  • Phil Labonte pushes a skeptical take:

    “It's possible that they don't actually have anything to produce...It seems like this is more of a threat and a way to basically slime people than any kind of actual, legitimate, substantial threat.” (30:09)

• Trump’s Role:
  • The conversation moves to Trump’s newly signed bill ordering the Epstein file release (43:44).
  • Guests speculate whether his earlier resistance to releasing details was tactical (47:33) or due to the DOJ’s dubious record during his tenure (55:53).

Notable Quote

JP Sears: “So I think Trump is, you know, done a great service where he's made our country better long term and, you know, the short term gratification of seeing grocery prices go down, that would be great. But I think he's doing better things than that.”
(84:50 – On long-term impact vs. immediate wins)

4. Big Tech, Media Manipulation, and ‘Fake Metrics’ (35:08–43:44)

• Collapse of the Media Machine:
  • Tim theorizes:

    “When we're tracking metrics from other big tech platforms, the one thing we've all started to notice is that they all seem fake… The numbers don't behave like humans… the machine state that was kind of smoothing things over to create appearances is losing control and kind of disappearing.” (35:08)

  • JP Sears supports the theory, citing the Twitter Files as evidence of political and algorithmic manipulation of views and censorship (38:21).
• Shift toward Authenticity (or its Performance):
  • Cody suggests that, post-Covid, audiences rejected “corpospeak” and crave real, unfiltered commentary; now tech CEOs are trying to mimic this “authenticity” (41:35).
  • Panel jokes about Mark Zuckerberg’s “free speech” posturing as opportunistic, not sincere (41:43).

Notable Quotes & Funniest Barbs

“He is the most spineless person I've ever met…But as soon as Trump takes office, he's just like, so spineless.”
— JP Sears on Mark Zuckerberg (41:43)

5. Partisan Disappointment, Broken Government, and What People Actually Want (79:11–74:46 & 81:33–85:53)

• Disappointment in the GOP:
  • Nick Fuentes’ viral statement: The GOP “must be destroyed” and replaced by a populist-left alliance if the left gives up immigration and the right gives up “the free market” (72:30).
  • Table universally rejects populist socialism as a solution, even as they acknowledge GOP failures and performative politics.
• Expectations for Trump:
  • Tim and guests dissect unrealistic expectations about the president’s power to prosecute or jail political opponents (“They want a dictator. … And like, those people are never going to be happy because of the way that our government works…” – Phil Labonte, 84:50).
  • JP Sears emphasizes the “long-term” metrics of success over wishing for immediate political bloodsport (84:50).

6. Cultural, Satirical, and Meta Commentary

• Humor/Pop Culture Moments:
  • Frequent jokes about time travel, Mandela Effect, and the “prophecy” of old books referencing Baron Trump (48:39–54:14).
  • Quips about AI, media bot-count conspiracies, Simpsons prophecy, and plugging into the Matrix (96:23–100:03).
  • Philosophical exchanges about personal responsibility, “extreme ownership,” and taking the blame vs. blaming others for life outcomes (114:10–116:16).

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Timestamps for Critical Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Quote | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 07:10 | “No Republicans got the chutzpah to actually do it.” – Tim Pool on Clinton subpoenas | | 10:00 | “Newsweek reached out to Clintons for comment, but our reporter wound up hanging themselves…” – JP Sears, dark Clinton-humor | | 13:08 | “Netflix could do a reality like women's prison show…” – JP Sears, mocking a Hillary prison stint | | 16:48–17:55| Should we keep focusing on the Clintons/Epstein when there are more important fish to fry? (Panel agrees it’s “old news”) | | 22:37 | Stacey Plaskett/Democrats’ Epstein collusion & failed censure, Republican complicity | | 24:16 | “Congress will protect Congress…” – Phil Labonte | | 28:00–31:45| Why don’t Epstein victims name names? Public fear, lawsuits, “maybe there’s nothing there…” skepticism | | 38:21 | "Twitter Files, the Biden administration, instructing [Big Tech] on who and what to censor… it would make sense…” – JP Sears | | 41:43 | “Mark Zuckerberg … is the most spineless person I’ve ever met…” – JP Sears | | 43:44 | Trump signs the bill releasing Epstein files. “Nobody can glaze Donald Trump like Donald Trump.” – Phil Labonte | | 55:53 | Did Trump’s DOJ/FBI cover up the Epstein case to protect intelligence assets? | | 74:44 | “This is not a woke right, this is the left. This is the Bernie argument…” – Tim Pool re: Nick Fuentes and populist socialism | | 79:11 | “The GOP has largely done a bad job…” (Tim’s dissatisfaction with Republican action/broken government) | | 84:50 | “I think to appreciate the major differences Trump has made, you have to look at the long term.” – JP Sears |

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Notable Quotes

• “No Republicans got the chutzpah to actually do it.” – Tim Pool (07:10)
• “Netflix could do a reality like women's prison show. That would be great. You gotta imagine Hillary's gonna be the boss running the prison just within three minutes.” – JP Sears (13:08)
• “Congress will protect Congress because they're hoping that, well, when I need that vote, they'll vote for me." – Phil Labonte (24:16)
• “They probably call themselves a free thinker but if their automatic default is a position of defiance relative to what a government official says, there's no thinking involved.” – JP Sears (20:04)
• “The only thing I can think of is they fear for their lives.” – JP Sears on Epstein victims not naming names (29:52)
• “The machine state that was kind of smoothing things over to create appearances is losing control and kind of disappearing.” – Tim Pool (35:08)
• “He is the most spineless person I've ever met…” – JP Sears on Mark Zuckerberg (41:43)
• “The easiest thing for a politician to do to gain power is to say it's not your fault, someone else did something bad to you.” – Tim Pool (112:17)

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, irreverent, and frequently satirical—even when discussing serious, sometimes grim subjects.
• Willingness to veer into conspiracy, pop culture, and meta-humor riffs to underscore the cynicism toward the political and media establishment.

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Key Takeaways

• The threats to prosecute Hillary and Bill Clinton over Epstein are seen as performative, unlikely to result in substantive justice, and mostly fodder for partisan media clicks.
• Congressional protectionism crosses party lines—corruption and ‘swamp’ behavior aren’t limited to one party.
• Public cynicism about both politicians and the media is at an all-time high, fueled by real and perceived manipulation, both online and off.
• Despite populist calls to raze the GOP and start anew, no one at the table advocates for “national socialism” or sees the populist left-right coalition as a solution.
• Trump’s DOJ legacy around Epstein and expectations of sweeping criminal justice are judged as flawed but, in policy, his long-term impacts are acknowledged by the hosts and guests.
• The panel repeatedly underscores that, despite demands for spectacle, the system as constructed isn’t set up to deliver immediate retribution or dramatic change.
• Ultimately, the show’s blend of high-level political commentary and sharp parody reflects its skeptical, independent editorial stance.

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For full details, listen to: Timcast IRL, November 20, 2025 (Rumble, YouTube, and audio platforms).

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And wow, am I absolutely expecting nothing to happen. And it's a slow news day where the only thing anyone's talking about is Epstein. And we actually have a Democrat delegate caught colluding with Epstein to go after Trump and the Democrats are defending it. So I couldn't tell you why. Trump all of a sudden wants the Epstein files released after saying they were bunk and then before that saying we'd release him. And then he gets elected and says they're bunk, but now he wants to release. I got no idea what's going on other than I go to these mainstream media websites, I go to the front page and I'm like, what's the news of the day? And they have like 80 articles about Epstein, nothing substantive. And that's why I'm like, so what's everybody talking about? What's a trending thing? Well, they're threatening Bill and Hillary Clinton with prison, okay? To be fair, they did this to Bannon and Navarro. And so if the Republicans actually grow some, if you know what I mean, they might actually say contempt of Congress, which we'll see. I data. But there is a big story in this Democrat Plasket who was caught colluding with Epstein, she's now admitted to it, defended it, and is saying, well, no one really knew what he was doing at the time in 2019 when literally everybody knew what he was doing. He was sued, already criminally charged, and was a registered sex offender. It's fascinating that the Democrats tried to go after Trump on the Epstein stuff. I don't understand. Did they not think at least one move ahead? I'd love to play them in chess for money. So we'll talk about that and a whole lot more. A bunch of stories. Big winter storm apparently is going to come. That's. That's important news for everybody at home. We'll talk about snow, I guess. Before we get started, my friends, we got some great sponsors for you. 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[JP Sears]

Hello. Good to see y'.

[Brett Dasovic]

All.

[JP Sears]

And you can find me on YouTube and rumble. My handle is awaken with JP.

[Tim Pool]

What do you do?

[JP Sears]

I'm a comedian. I. I have a lot to say about politics, and I like to share my perspectives through the language of comedy. So I. You buy multi multiple sketches a week. Don't even know the schedule. It's a lot.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. Should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got race car driver extraordinaire, Cody Dennison.

[Cody Dennison]

Howdy.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do? Well, no, I just explained it. Tell us.

[Cody Dennison]

I struggle to go in circles, which you would think would be way easier, but I found it's a lot harder than I expected.

[Tim Pool]

You're better at turning left than anyone here.

[Cody Dennison]

Well, that's damn sure. I don't know. We were upstairs earlier. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I was teaching Cody the rope because we got NASCAR 25.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I was trying to explain to him what you do is you just. When you're dropping, when you're about to pass somebody, you nudge them so they spit out of control and crash. And I'm sitting here like, how did I figure this out before you?

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, dude, it's wild. Yeah, I was. I've not even won a race in the game yet. You were just winning over and over. And I'm like, maybe there's something to this, but I'm the kind of guy that when I'm playing, like, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, I can't choose the. The mean option. It just. It hurts my feelings for the NPC.

[Tim Pool]

The NPCs. You want to let them win because, like, they're your friends.

[Cody Dennison]

It's like, you know how it has an option where it's like, you know, get out of here, you fool. I'm just like, no, you can come with me and I'll save you.

[Phil Labonte]

We code. We need Cody to program the AI. That's what needs to happen. That way, the AI will never be mean. It'll always do nice.

[Cody Dennison]

It's so kind. I can't help it, dude. No matter what, playthrough on any game, I just can't hurt anybody.

[Tim Pool]

I'm.

[Cody Dennison]

I'm weird.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. Brett is here.

[Brett Dasovic]

Better at turning left. That means you're like the opposite of Zoolander.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, that is a pop culture reference a long time ago.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know who I am? Brett's Brett. Guys, pop culture crisis. Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time, which is, of course, noon Pacific. How you doing, Phil?

[Phil Labonte]

I'm doing quite well. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal and all that remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary, and I am equally proficient at turning left and right, but not nearly as good as Cody.

[Tim Pool]

Have you been watching Pluribus?

[JP Sears]

Oh, come on.

[Tim Pool]

How do you not? We got to. I want to talk about that show again because Apple TV is for people.

[Brett Dasovic]

Who get shoved into lockers.

[Tim Pool]

Well, but Pluribus is basically a show about AI and it feels like they're trying to convince you AI takeover is a good thing. So. But we'll talk about that. Let's first start with this story from Newsweek. Bill and Hillary Clinton risk prison over Epstein silence. They risk it. No Republicans got the chutzpah to actually do it. So I don't even know why Newsweek is writing about it, but they put it on the front page of their website because they expected to get clicks. House Oversight Committee chair James Comer said on Tuesday that former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton could face criminal exposure related to newly surfaced Jeffrey Epstein documents, quote, we expect to hear from Bill and Hillary Clinton, Comer said on just the news. No noise. Donald Trump answered questions for years about Jeffrey Epstein. Every day he gets asked questions about Epstein and he answers them in front of the American people. We've subpoenaed Republicans and Democrats. They go on to say. The DOJ said Friday it's examining Epstein's purported connections to high profile Democrats, among them Bill Clinton. Spartan investigation. Comer issued subpoenas to the Clintons and eight other individuals that followed the release by Congress last week of more than 20,000 pages of documents. A batch of newly released correspondence includes messages involving Trump, among them, an email from Epstein's brother Mark referring to photos of Trump quote, blowing Bubba. While Bubba is a nickname of Clinton Clinton, Mark Epstein Told Newsweek that the individual was not the former president. He described the exchanges as a lighthearted banter between siblings and said they were never intended to be made public or interpreted literally or. Trump and Bill Clinton were more than friends. That proves it.

[Phil Labonte]

That's it.

[Tim Pool]

Is that, is this why Trump didn't want the Epstein files?

[Brett Dasovic]

All the evidence I need, he goes.

[Tim Pool]

Like, PAM Bondi's like, Mr. President, you're, there's literally nothing in here that's incriminating at all. And he's like, okay, well we should realize him. But there is an email claiming you blew Bill Clinton. Wait a minute.

[Cody Dennison]

What?

[Tim Pool]

We can't release this. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not coming out.

[Cody Dennison]

It's not illegal. I mean, think about how much, think about how much power he would gain over everybody and went over the left if he just came out there and was like, it's a, it's a presidential one.

[Tim Pool]

I had to do it. I had to do.

[Cody Dennison]

It was right in front of me. Everybody else done it.

[Tim Pool]

Every. Every president.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

The hazing ritual for all president.

[Cody Dennison]

And then everybody be like, oh wow, he's great.

[Tim Pool]

Every, every president has to service every other living president as the answer office.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's like the picture of Bill Clinton when he's at the desk and says, little do you know, there's two people on the, in this photo. It was actually, it wasn't Monica Lewinsky.

[JP Sears]

I was just gonna say, personally, I am shocked to hear the, the Clintons mentioned in association with Epstein.

[Tim Pool]

It's just.

[JP Sears]

But also to me, the most optimistic part of this article, somewhere in it says Newsweek reached out to the Clintons for comment, but no comment was returned. That's good. You know, I would have expected Newsweek say, yeah, we reached out to Clinton's for comment, but our reporter wound up hanging themselves in a tree. Kind of a self inflicted gunshot wound. Two of them to the gun found 30ft away. It's suicide. Sorry to see the reporter.

[Phil Labonte]

Kudos to the reporters for actually reaching out in the first place. That's a dangerous, it's very courageous.

[Brett Dasovic]

Imagine being, they did the thing where they reach out at like the last exact moment at like 11:59pm and they got a turn in copy by midnight. They're like I asked, they came back to me.

[Phil Labonte]

It was an anonymous email. Yeah, Someone started their own Yahoo account so they would, they could send it to the, the Clintons.

[Cody Dennison]

Dude, imagine being that one reporter and you're like sitting there, your cubicle alone and sweating. The boss walks up to you and he's like, slides it towards your desk.

[Phil Labonte]

They drew straws.

[Cody Dennison]

Everybody's watching, like, shaking. It's like, it's your time, Rodrigo.

[Tim Pool]

Here's what he said. He said, so we expect the Clintons to come in or I expect the Clintons to be met with the same fate that Bannon Navaro with when the Democrats were in control. House Democrats sought criminal charges against Bannon. And we know this about Navarro as well. And actually they both went to prison. You know, if the Republicans actually made some moves and arrested like Bill and Hillary Clinton and it was like for four months, I would feel pretty good. But I don't know if it's satisfactory enough. I mean, they're both old and out of the picture at this point. Is it just throwing some rotted red meat at the base to be like, oh, we're gonna do something? The Clintons, they're not gonna do anything.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, just for comedy, just because it would be hilarious to see the Clintons actually facing some kind of repercussions for something they did. I think it would be funny.

[Cody Dennison]

It would make people feel a little good. And then I would.

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[Cody Dennison]

And wake up in a sweat at 3am every night like I do right now. You know, Hillary Clinton, she exists. So yeah.

[JP Sears]

And I think if Hillary was in prison for a few months, Netflix could do a reality like women's prison show. That would be great. You gotta imagine Hillary's gonna be the boss running the prison just within three minutes.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

Intimidating everybody.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I would like to see if. So you know that scene from Watchmen, where Rorschach is in line, you know, talking about. But, like, it's Hillary.

[Phil Labonte]

Hillary. You're all. You're not.

[Tim Pool]

Some woman's, like, I heard.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know.

[Tim Pool]

And then Hillary grabs the thing and splashes the. The lady with.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not stuck in here with you boiling oil.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Or I mean, to be. To be completely honest, she gets into prison, and immediately it's like, okay, boss. Like, she's already the boss of these people.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna be like those old mob movies where they had, like, their own rooms and chefs and they had pool tables and cards and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I got to be honest. If Clint. If Hillary Clinton and Bill went to prison outside, everybody would be cheering as they go in, you know, hands cuffed. And Hillary is like, I'll get you for this Trump. And then as soon as the door closed, they uncuff her. Sorry, ma'.

[Cody Dennison]

Am.

[Tim Pool]

The hander close. And then, like, right this way. And there's, like, a luxury suite.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, yeah. The real way to take them down would be to go after their assets would be to go after. Is the Clinton Foundation.

[Tim Pool]

Even still, it's.

[Phil Labonte]

Now It's.

[Tim Pool]

They're like, three. They're 300 years old. So it's fine to say we want answers from the Clintons on this stuff, but they're, like, 300 years old. You know, like, can we just. I. This is. I. I suppose we should say, of course we want answers from the Clintons, but at a certain point, they're so old, and it's so 10 years ago. Are there more pressing issues to focus on right now? Like, Gen Z.

[Brett Dasovic]

How old are they?

[Tim Pool]

Like, 900?

[Brett Dasovic]

They're not 900. They're like, what, in their 70s?

[Tim Pool]

Just.

[Cody Dennison]

Just put. Just.

[Tim Pool]

We have the Internet, So in the.

[Brett Dasovic]

70S, you know, theoretically, they could live to be Jimmy Carter age.

[Tim Pool]

So, you know, is 78 years old.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, 79, Hillary. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Brett Dasovic]

They went to prison for the rest of their lives. That could theoretically be, like, 20 years. If they were.

[Tim Pool]

If they ended well, they're at life expectancy, so theoretically, we'll give them a.

[Cody Dennison]

Certain sentence and then just put their kids in afterwards.

[Tim Pool]

If. If you get 20 years and if you don't make it, the remaining years go to your daughter.

[Cody Dennison]

It's the Crom family. Let's go.

[Brett Dasovic]

She's like, no, but if I get exonerated, you have to listen to Chelsea Clinton's podcast for the rest of your life.

[Tim Pool]

She have a podcast?

[Brett Dasovic]

I think she does.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, she does.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

I'M sure it's crushing it. I mean, her and Michelle Obama just. People care what they have to say.

[Tim Pool]

It's called that Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton. And it's like one guy who comes.

[Brett Dasovic]

Up with all the.

[Tim Pool]

By the Clinton foundation for every podcast.

[JP Sears]

I. I imagine they named her podcast after, like, their response to all the allegations against the Clinton. That Can't Be True.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, hold on.

[JP Sears]

That would be a good name for a podcast.

[Phil Labonte]

She has the safest answer.

[Tim Pool]

She had a podcast called, In Fact with Chelsea Clinton in 2022. I guess that's gone. How many? It has 300 reviews and it got four stars.

[Cody Dennison]

What was her first one?

[Tim Pool]

And she's got that Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton. And this one is. Is ongoing. This is the new one that Can't Be True, funded by the Clinton Foundation.

[Brett Dasovic]

She should start a true crime podcast called the Clinton Crime.

[Tim Pool]

That would.

[Brett Dasovic]

The views that thing would get would be astronomical.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, women like Chelsea Cl. And they like true. True crime. So I imagine it would be one of the most popular podcasts on Apple podcasts immediately.

[Tim Pool]

So wait, you have to go to The Clinton Foundation, YouTube, they have 12,000 subscribers. These. I mean, this is the thing. At what point are we, like, I wish we got answers on the Clintons, but they're so old, out of the picture. Are we just spinning our wheels?

[JP Sears]

Well, I. I think they're. They're probably the biggest name that's been named and. Or allegedly involved with Epstein. So I think people want to see that because they're the biggest name, but I don't think they're the most relevant. Like, Bill probably wasn't in there running the operation, and Epstein's working for him. He's potentially a client, but I think there's bigger fish. Fish to fry when we're looking at getting justice on the crimes that happened.

[Brett Dasovic]

When you did, I was talking to you before the show. I mentioned that you did a video on Epstein, and it was like, it had to be like, 2020. And it's one of my favorites. Like, I still. I can still quote parts of it. And in the background, you had like, a big thing. It said Clinton body count. I think it was at 50th time.

[JP Sears]

Yeah. What's interesting, that video came out in, I think, February 2020. So right before COVID and back then, YouTube was censoring talk about Epstein. Like, that video got something done to it. Some other stuff I did on Epstein that was just nuts. Like, okay, big tech is censoring opinions on Epstein. That's interesting.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, Big Tech was, was censoring basically anything that the Democrats told him to censor at the time.

[Cody Dennison]

Allegedly, Covid opened everyone's eyes, especially just normal people. Yeah, like you, you niche groups of people that are in entertainment or maybe they hold different opinions than which would normally be accepted in certain levels of entertainment. And all of a sudden, you know, everybody was finding out you couldn't even say it on Facebook. I mean, normal people would say something on Facebook and get, and get censored for 24 hours and get muted. So all these normal people started seeing this and they're like, wait, something, something strange is going, you know, going on.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And I think that it was that this is something that we've said around the table before. Even though overall Covid was a terrible thing, like the way the government behaved and stuff, it really did open so many people's eyes to how deceptive the government is. And that's kind of a double edged sword because there are people out there now where the default opinion is, of course the government's lying. If the government said it, it can't be true. And that isn't really productive at all. There are a lot of people that are just like, look, man, they got me when it came to Covid. I bought that and now I won't get, you know, bamboozled again. So anything they say, they have to be lying. If the government says it has to be lying and that you. I feel like that doesn't work functionally.

[JP Sears]

I'm in that camp, Phil, and I like it there. It's just, you don't have to think just automatically they're lying. What? Yeah, they said gravity is real.

[Brett Dasovic]

Is there an example you can think of of something that, like, you've seen people saying, like, this is clearly untrue. And you're like, hold your horses.

[Tim Pool]

Not off your dad now.

[Brett Dasovic]

So you can say hold your horses.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I can say hold your horses. Not off the top of my head. Mostly it's the thing that, that at least strikes me the most is the attitude that people have. Like, so if you'll say something, people think that, think that now because they are skeptical of everything. That they're how they're somehow like, enlightened in some way and they're just like, oh. And it's, it's more of a, you know, like, you're so dumb and I'm so smart because I don't believe this. Or you believe. You must believe that, so you're dumb. It's more the attitude that, that I notice more so than, than any particular topic or issue.

[JP Sears]

I agree with you. To me it's, you know, they probably call themselves a free thinker but if their automatic default is a position of defiance relative to what a government official says, there's no thinking involved.

[Phil Labonte]

Perma bears are right sometimes. Right. If you're constantly saying the market's going to crash, the market's going to crash, the market's going to crash. And you're saying it for 10 years when the market crashes, it's not that you were like had some kind of great insight. It's that you've been saying the market's going to crash. And so when it finally does, eventually, you know, the clocks, even a broken clocks. Right. Twice a day.

[Tim Pool]

You know, let's jump to the story from cnn. This, you know, this should be one of the biggest stories of our generation and it is a Democrat caught colluding with Epstein when he was well known to have been a, a sex offender, trafficking minors. This Democrat says, but he was a constituent. He was texting with her, telling her what to ask Michael Cohen and they used this to go after Trump under these false criminal charges. Democrats are now trying to, to pin the whole Epstein thing on Trump. Trump saying it's a hoax. I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes but what I will say is be it seasonal, be it fatigue, be it just an off year, people are pretty detached from politics right now and based on this story not getting nearly as much attention as it is. Maybe I don't have to be worried just because it's a, it's an off cycle year and people don't really pay attention. But I can't believe this is not a front page headline. Extra, extra scandal. Let me show you. This is the. So there's, there's two components to the scandal. A failed effort to censure Democrats over texts with Epstein. More importantly, that some Republicans cut a backroom deal with the Democrats to protect this woman who colluded with Jeffrey Epstein. It is shocking. It should be disqualifying for all the Republicans involved. And every Democrat voted to protect her. I'm going to stress this during a hearing. This is Stacey Plasket from the Virgin Islands. She quote, represented Jeffrey Epstein. He texted her about specific names to ask about because Epstein knew about Trump's inner workings to a certain degree and she did not. And she was using this information to smear Donald Trump. Fascinating. Epstein hated Trump and Democrats trying to act like they were friends. But no, actually now the emails release prove he did not like Trump at all. And they were working with him the whole time. Listen to this.

[Phil Labonte]

And I got a text from Jeffrey.

[Brett Dasovic]

Epstein, who at the time was my.

[Tim Pool]

Constituent, who was not public knowledge at that time that he was under federal investigation. See, see what you just did right there?

[Phil Labonte]

He was not an affiliate.

[Tim Pool]

This was February, I believe it was February 27th. It was February of 2019. The Miami Herald story broke in 2018, the investigation of which these issues were going on for a long time. And Jeffrey Epstein had already served time for soliciting a minor for prostitution and got a sweetheart deal. There are some speculating that she was in the pocket of Epstein, that he, she worked for him, that she was the delegate because he put the money up to make sure that would happen. And that's why she wasn't just colluding, he was telling her what to do. But now it's just one last point. They were going to just censure her. That's it. You know, that means, that means they're going to wiggle their finger at her. And they couldn't even do that because I believe it was Three Republicans cut a backroom deal to protect a woman working with Epstein. This is insane. That they tried to use against Trump, did it themselves, and then several Republicans defected to protect her.

[Brett Dasovic]

The funny thing is we were just talking about like your default status of like not trusting politicians. This is why, like weasel words used to get yourself out of trouble. This is why people have a default status to just not trust anything a government official says. Because more often than not, you're going to be right if you, if you're sitting, maybe they're not always lying, but if, Are they always self interested? Yes, absolutely.

[Phil Labonte]

And it goes beyond just, you know, one party. Clearly this is, this is something where Congress will protect Congress because they're hoping that, well, when I need that vote, they'll vote for me. But in this case, she's not, I don't think she's not even a voting member. Right. She's, she's, it's the Virgin Islands. I don't know that she even gets to, gets to vote on. Bill, I got it.

[Tim Pool]

I got a question for you guys. Phil, you're a rock star. When you have issues related to high profile hearings about former presidents, current presidents or frontrunners for the presidency. When you text your member of Congress advice, do they usually just agree with it? Do they give you any pushback and say it's not appropriate or, you know.

[Phil Labonte]

They tend not to Reply. They tend to ignore me.

[Tim Pool]

You actually have their phone numbers.

[Phil Labonte]

Not their phone numbers. I will send a message to the office and say, I generally don't get it.

[Tim Pool]

When you go to this hearing, texting an actual personal. That's strange. I mean, what about the rest of you? When you text. Text your member of Congress, how does a conversation usually go?

[Brett Dasovic]

Get them on WhatsApp.

[JP Sears]

Yeah, well, they don't respond to my text unless I'm in prison. Then they're all about like, I need this guy's advice, and then they want to hear me.

[Phil Labonte]

That's probably the. The go to get your point arrested. And then the point, of course, is.

[Tim Pool]

She'S saying, he was just my constituent.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, yes. Yeah, I text my member of Congress all. Well, to be fair, Riley Moore's a friend of the show, so.

[JP Sears]

True, true.

[Brett Dasovic]

But the point is weasel words. That's what I'm talking about. Weasel words. When she says stuff like this. And this is why people don't trust Paul politicians.

[Phil Labonte]

Riley. Riley replies because he wants to be able to still use the. The skate park. That's why he actually will reply, well.

[Tim Pool]

He needs to come skate.

[JP Sears]

Riley, Is there any word who the Republican members were that were part of this backdoor deal to protect her?

[Tim Pool]

There was a story about it, but, like, I didn't see. I mean, we could pull the list. It was because I didn't get the names. I don't, I don't. We could pull the list of names. Tim Burchette's roasting them, saying a handful of Republicans took a dive on a vote to strip Stacey Plasket of her position on House intel because of her ties to Epstein. They did it to protect a Republican facing his own ethics issues from a similar vote. This backroom deal, ish. Is swampy, wrong, and always deserved to be called out. This is wild. Nancy Mace called it a backroom deal. Democrats are on TV protecting this woman who was literally taking instruction from Jeffrey Epstein to go after Donald Trump. And three Republicans concerned with Rep. Corey Mills ethics issues decided to protect Epstein. I got questions.

[Brett Dasovic]

It is crazy. They started framing Donald Trump as bad by using Jeffrey Epstein as like, the example of saying, like, well, Jeffrey Epstein said he's bad, so he must be bad. Like, it takes one bad guy to know another, I suppose.

[Cody Dennison]

Well, think about that for a moment. Right, because it was Trump's bad because he's best friends with Epstein. Now it's Trump's bad because Epstein hates him.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

It's like, you can't have it both ways. Man. And it's even crazier to me that people will try to defend this. And the same people that try to defend this are the people that regularly morally grandstand about how much they. How much empathy they have. And they care about everybody, but they've completely ignore the fact that this thing that took place was 11 years after Epstein was charged with child crimes. Yeah, they don't. They don't care. They just want the W, man. They just want the win.

[Phil Labonte]

It's just about a vector of attack.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

They. They don't like President Trump, so they can go ahead and use, you know, if they can use any. Basically anything that they can use to attack him, they're going to use.

[JP Sears]

By the way, at this point, when we look at Epstein's body of work, is it considered anti Semitic to criticize it or are we allowed to do it?

[Brett Dasovic]

Depends on what side of Twitter you're on.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay. Depends on why you're criticizing him. If you're criticizing him because of. Because of him being friendly with Donald Trump, then it's anti Semitic. If you're criticizing him when he was attacking Donald Trump, well, then, no, it's not.

[JP Sears]

Any of that makes sense.

[Phil Labonte]

It was.

[JP Sears]

I appreciate those rules.

[Tim Pool]

Don Bacon, Lance Gooden, and David Joyce. So that's Nebraska, Texas, and Ohio. And then there were three who voted present. Andrew Gar Garborino, Dan Mouser, and J. Ober Nolte.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like that guy who voted not to release the Epstein files.

[JP Sears]

That one dude.

[Phil Labonte]

One dude.

[Brett Dasovic]

One guy.

[Cody Dennison]

That one.

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Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What's. What's it. What was the name?

[JP Sears]

He was, what, from Louisiana?

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

It's like, dude, read the room. Like, realize you're going to be the only one, you're gonna stand out.

[Cody Dennison]

That's like, going to, like a. Like a skating ring. When you're a kid for a birthday party and you go in and there's no one there, and you're like, it was. This is the right place.

[Tim Pool]

It was Clay Higgins, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Clay Higgins, Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Clay Higgins from Louisiana voted not to.

[Tim Pool]

Release the Epstein file. I don't know.

[Brett Dasovic]

That guy better have just the. There better be zero skeletons in any closet for that guy, because he's.

[Phil Labonte]

His argument was that it's. It would. It could harm innocents. Innocent people.

[Tim Pool]

You sure it wasn't that his constituents would be upset if they released the documents with their names in it?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, possibly, but.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

And the victims have come out and said that they don't. They don't even mind if their names are redacted.

[Phil Labonte]

Or not there were victims that. This is something that I continue to mention. There were victims two months ago or so, three months ago that said we, if they don't release the Epstein files, we're going to get together our own list because we, the victims, blah, blah, blah. Where's this list?

[Brett Dasovic]

What has prevented them from doing that?

[JP Sears]

So on that, the question I always have is like, when Marjorie Taylor Greene has all the victims together and they're doing, you know, talk to the camera thing, you got all the news organizations there. What stops the victims from just naming names like they're there on camera, the news isn't gonna.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, it's live defamation. Like, is it literally, they're afraid of getting sued by very, very powerful people.

[JP Sears]

The only thing I can think of is they. They fear for their lives.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

I mean, I don't know how you can get sued if you're making an accurate accusation at a child predator, but.

[Brett Dasovic]

If there's no proof, like, unless it's. The documents are the only place where proof exists and there's no other proof, then you're making a claim.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, this is, this is going to set a lot of people on fire, but it's possible that they don't actually have anything to produce. You know, they're every. Like, it seems to me that a lot of people are like, talking about, oh, you know, this person's on the list, that person's on the list, etc. Etc. And it's, it's. It seems like this is more of a threat and a way to basically slime people than any kind of actual, legitimate, legitimate, substantial threat. Even. Even Elon Musk said, oh, Donald Trump is on the, on the Epstein list. Again, what does on the list mean?

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Phil Labonte]

Does it mean that you had. That they have. That was the, the a list of people that he was blackmailing, or is it just the list of people that have been to the island?

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, the term has become amorphous now. Right? Like, you don't even know what it means. Like, because. Because one of the things that the media was doing for the last several months before they got onto the current train of thought that they have was anytime documents would come out and somebody's like, I was there. Donald Trump was not there. Like, Trump was mentioned in documents, which is just them saying that he wasn't there, which is just a way to frame it and make it a bigger case than it is.

[Phil Labonte]

That's, that's. That's what it seems like to me there, because nothing has actually materialized that you could that's actionable in any way. It seems like it's just people making threats and using the. The phrase Epstein list to slime people and to either take heat off themselves or to make accusations that they don't ever have any intent of producing anything substantial there.

[Brett Dasovic]

It also proves how petty Elon Musk is that he made that tweet that long ago and then now they're back hanging out again.

[Cody Dennison]

Maybe.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, I mean, I think Elon.

[JP Sears]

Was emotional during that tweet and.

[Brett Dasovic]

Emotional?

[Cody Dennison]

You.

[JP Sears]

That was nuts.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I would never describe Elon as petty and emotional.

[Brett Dasovic]

No. Buying Twitter wasn't petty.

[Tim Pool]

I'm kidding. Elon is. If you took a guy. Well, if you took a computer nerd and just cranked all of his emotions to 11, I feel like you get.

[Brett Dasovic]

Elon Musk, you know, him fighting with Billie Eilish about how he should spend his money. I was like, you don't have to respond, bro.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I gotta be honest. I was, I was. You know what I think? I think it is. You know, I think it is. It's happening. I think we were under the boot of a deep state for a long time and that the views on. On social media and the ratings on TV were all fake. I think that Mockingbird probably went crazier than people realized and media was much more controlled than people realized, and the Internet kind of broke the machine because I've been. I've been. You know, right now there's a big behind the scenes for those that are curious in media right now. One of the big concerns is ad rates are way down when they should not be, and viewer count is way down when it should not be. And I'm not. I'm not just talking about politics. People have been highlighting that there are certain sporting events and hobby YouTube where it's like the views seem low right now, which is odd considering it's getting cold. So. And we're near the end of the year, which means ad rates should be going up and views should be going up. But we're seeing many people reporting views are down and ad rates are going down along with it. I can't speak to viewers. For the most part, they've dipped a little bit. I think for the most part we've been stable, but ad rates for sure have gone down. I've been talking with a lot of people in media about this phenomenon. What do they think is happening? I think it's largely due to economics and potentially lack of children coming in as older people go out. But part of the conversation is that when we're tracking metrics from other big tech platforms, the one thing we've all started to notice is that they all seem fake. It all seems fake. The numbers don't. Are not behaving like humans. We've come to a point right now, I mean, Trump nukes, usaid, the slush fund, this slush fund money starts disappearing. And all of a sudden we see a divergence in the behavior and revenue streams and audience totals, as if something was artificially creating a track. Something was artificially making sure certain channels got views and money in, certain channels didn't get views and money. And now the data seems to be acting strangely. And for the season going down. I wonder if actually, let me put it like this. You may think I am paranoid, but I will remind you of when Elon Musk announced he put a bid in for Twitter before it was X, liberals started bleeding followers. Their follower counts were collapsing and conservatives were skyrocketing. And everyone said, how is that possible? Liberals said, oh, it's because everyone's fleeing to other platforms. That wasn't true. So what was happening that made conservatives gain followers? And the response was, oh, people are coming back. No, that doesn't make sense. Millions of people just saw a news report. Elon, Dubai, Twitter, maybe. And they said, guess I'll sign up. I don't think so.

[Brett Dasovic]

No.

[Tim Pool]

People following liberals on social media, on X or on Twitter at the time said what Elon might buy the platform. Better leave right now. The theory was that the US government had some kind of. Had a backdoor into these platforms. That we know is true. And as soon as it became. As soon as it looked like Elon was getting Twitter, they said, quick, burn the evidence. Flick the switch on whatever weird algorithm was propping up these fake numbers, switching everything, collapsing their fake system. My point ultimately is with Elon. The reason I bring this up is Elon's a weird dude. He does not behave. CEOs behave. And I think it's because for the most part, they've always been fake. Everybody knows, you know, Deepwater Horizon happens, and then you get the BP guy. We're sorry. You know, I can tell you this. I'd be willing to actually place a wager on the next time there's some kind of disaster. I'll be like, oh, bro, I will write verbatim the speech from the CEO based on the disaster. We know exactly what they're going to say. It's fake, it's plastic. Nobody believes them. Things are changing now. Elon Musk is behaving in very strange ways. It seems like not just with Elon, but with many other facets of our social infrastructure. We're starting to see real people, real numbers. And the machine state that was kind of smoothing things over to create appearances is losing control and kind of disappearing.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, Elon is an example of somebody who's made his brand every bit as much about him as the companies that he runs. But that's not necessarily how the rest of the Fortune 500 I read so much about, like David Zaslav and David Ellison and all of these CEOs and entertainment companies, and they all talk the exact same.

[Tim Pool]

We're not talking in absolute. I'm not, I'm not claiming that the old world ceased to exist. I'm saying that the machine state that smoothed things over is waning. And we are starting to see emergence of real people, real numbers, real metrics, and it defies our expectation because we have lived in a bot dead Internet forever. That is my theory is, and maybe I'll speak a little bit more on the uncensored portion of the show to avoid potential litigation, but I'll keep it somewhat vague that there are prominence social media platforms whose numbers don't make sense and don't track onto other platforms, implying they are using bots. And as we've already pointed out numerous times in the past, it is a fact that prominent social media sites use bots to prop up viewer count. I'll give you an example. It is known that the CEO, the co founders of Reddit, when they first launched the site, created fake accounts, sock puppets, to interact with users so they would believe there was real engagement on the platform. They faked it. This has been the case for many big social media platforms. I think what's happening now with, you know, people have complained like, why are my views down? When, when Elon bought Twitter, they were like, my views are down now. And it's like, maybe because they were never there in the first place. And what was happening was there was a machine state that said, if someone says something that's anti Trump, pump it up. If someone says something that is pro Trump, drop it down. Elon comes in and they're like, quick, run for the hills. And now people are going, why are my numbers different? Why are my subscriber, you know, growth different?

[JP Sears]

And yeah, and there's no question the, the big tech companies, you know, Twitter, before Elon and Zuckerberg, they YouTube, they've all had a political agenda that's just so obvious. You look at the Twitter files, the Biden administration, instructing them on who and what to censor. It would make sense. Not only are they like censoring conservatives, but doing the fake optics to make their side, who supports their agenda. Fake optics make them look, you know, more popular, which then helps them gain more popularity. So to me, what you're saying, theoretically, it makes sense.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah. I remember prior to Elon Musk, you know, getting Twitter and switching it to X. I remember I would log in and my feed would just. Every single profile picture was just a politician with their little tie on. And it was a statement and it had a hundred thousand likes and no engagement. And I remember everything I was seeing. I would have to pretty much mute things like that because it would be my entire feed, my entire feed. And then you have this, like Tim said, this machine kind of collapsing. And then at the same time, in my opinion, you have people trying to explain the gravitate. Especially after covered, like what me and Phil were talking about after, after seeing all the fake this and all of what I call corpo speak, you see people gravitating towards real people that have real emotions and real react re, you know, real reactions to things and they don't try to hide these things. And yeah, it can be a little coarse sometimes, but people want realness. They're tired of hearing the, oh, we, we're sorry you feel that way. I had a, I, I've been in a spat with YouTube the past two days because they started, they started charging me every day.

[Phil Labonte]

Is it actually like they're charging you? Like, you will get like, less money? Yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

So, you know, my revenue was supposed to be like a couple thousand dollars. And I checked it and it was pretty much zero. And I was like, what's going on? And it was just, I've never had a negative day in seven years on YouTube. And it was like negative 200 negative, 98 negative 140 negative. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is the end of my life. It's over. And I, you know, YouTube keeps telling me to talk to, you know, the, the customer support, and they're just like, we. They don't even know what I'm talking. They don't even know what I'm referring to. Right. And you know, YouTube finally emailed me after it was trending all day today. But yeah, it's pretty devastating watching your, your revenue go down. And that's the thing is people are.

[Tim Pool]

Trying to watch it go down.

[Phil Labonte]

It's another thing to be like, you Owe us money.

[Cody Dennison]

I was like, negative. It was like negative.

[JP Sears]

And I was like, your adsense is terrible, Cody. You are like, you're costing us money.

[Cody Dennison]

My average view duration is negative 30 seconds.

[Brett Dasovic]

You could make, you could make the ARG that if what you were looking at before was bots and, you know, a corporate structure that was designed to make everything look more popular than it was then. You had a bunch of neoliberal company owners or even leftist company owners who then once that was kind of pulled apart when Elon bought X and they had to pivot. Now they're all like, you know what? We're kind of free. I'm kind of a free speech advocate myself over here at Meta, and Mark Zuckerberg starts doing Brazilian jiu jitsu and pretending like he's human. Like, we're at a point now where they're trying to actually manufacture authenticity where.

[Cody Dennison]

It'S not even really there. That's a great point.

[Brett Dasovic]

And be real, the conservatives fell for it. They're like, I like that Mark Zuckerberg guy now because he kind of acting like a real person.

[JP Sears]

He is the most spineless person I've ever met. I would have more respect for the guy if once Trump took office, he still stood for censorship. Like, yeah, this is like, like, I don't agree with that. But if he authentically believed it, I can respect a guy who stands for what he believes in. But as soon as Trump takes office, he's just like, so spineless. Like, yeah, yeah, we should definitely, you know, have free speech and open this up. It's like you believe in nothing.

[Cody Dennison]

You.

[Phil Labonte]

That was his, his kind of stance, like back in the day. Right. He thought he would come out, come across as a libertarian kind of minded dude.

[Brett Dasovic]

And before supposedly Jack Dorsey as well.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, actually, Jack Dorsey, like when he, he sold blue sky because blue sky became what it is. And he's like, I can't. He's just like, I can't with these people.

[Brett Dasovic]

He brought vine back instead.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And. And not to say that, not to say that I think that he's particularly principled or anything like that, but I do think that the pressure from the government, like when the government says, hey, we need you to do this, even just making the remark, we want you to do this, that everybody feels like it's a threat if you get a letter from the irs, everybody's like, oh.

[Brett Dasovic]

Sure would be a shame if you got audited.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, Just. I mean, it's like if the Eye of Sauron looks at you, you start sweating and that's really kind of what the government is. So not that I'm saying that, not that I'm making excuses or whatever, but it is understandable to be Mark Zuckerberg with one of the biggest companies in the world. And then the federal government's like, hey, maybe you should help us out. And obviously he got wrapped up and, and allowed them to do things that he shouldn't have. And it is good that he said, okay, you know, wait a minute, maybe we shouldn't do this. He should have stood in on principle earlier and not let them do that. But I do understand how, you know, the government saying, hey, we want you to do this. What that kind of does to basically anybody, I would tell a cave.

[Tim Pool]

We got big news from Donald Trump. He has signed the Epstein release. It's happening. There's gonna be nothing in it. We'll be bored, and I'm bored now. But Donald Trump has truthed. He truth a lot. It's, it's long. Um, Jeffrey Epstein, who was charged by the Trump justice department in 2019, not the Democrats, was a lifelong Democrat, donated thousands of dollars to Democrat politicians and was deeply associated with many well known Democrat figures such as Bill Clinton, who traveled on his plane 26 times. Larry Summers, who just resigned from many boards, including Harvard sleazebag political activist Reid Hoffman, Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, who asked Epstein to donate to his campaign after Epstein was charged, Democrat Congresswoman Stacey Plaskett, and many more. Perhaps the truth about these Democrats and their associates with Jeffrey Epstein will soon be revealed because I have just signed the bill to release the Epstein files. As everyone knows, I asked speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune to pass the bill in the House and the Senate respectively. Because of this request, the votes were almost unanimous in favor of the passage. At my direction, the Department of Justice has already turned over close to 50,000 pages of documents to Congress. Do not forget, the Biden administration did not turn over a single file or page related to Democrat Epstein, nor did they ever speak about him. Democrats have used the Epstein issue, which affects them far more than the Republican Party, in order to try and distract from our amazing victories, including the great big beautiful tax cut bill. Strong borders, no men in women's, sports or transgender for everyone. Ending dei, stopping Biden's record, setting inflation, lowering prices, biggest tax and regulation cuts in history, ending eight wars, rebuilding our military, knocking out Iran's nuclear capability, getting trillions of dollars invested in the usa, creating the hottest country anywhere in the world. And Even delivering a huge defeat to the Democrats on the recent shutdown disaster. For years, our great nation has had to endure. Russia, Russia, Russia. Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Impeachment hoax number one, Impeachment hoax number two. And many other Democrat traded witch hunts and scams, all of which have been so terrible and divisive for our country, have and have been done to confuse, deflect and distract from the great job that Republicans and the Trump administration are doing. This latest hoax will backfire on the Democrats, just as all of the rest have. Thank you again for your attention to this matter. Make America great again.

[Phil Labonte]

Nobody can glaze Donald Trump like Donald Trump. Like, nobody. Like, he can go ahead and glaze other people. And he's great at it. Like, when someone's nice to him, he's. He'll glaze you. But like, man, when he's talking about himself, look out. He is unstoppable. Look at how great I am.

[Brett Dasovic]

In my mind. He does that with voice to text.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, well, he does it with voice to actual person typing. He tells someone that he doesn't type. He, I. Donald Trump is a hunting pecker.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I, I can't imagine. He's not, he's not using his, he's, he's doing this.

[JP Sears]

I wouldn't be surprised if he's never had his fingers on a keyboard in his life. You know, just always has a secretary, assistant, or.

[Phil Labonte]

I do think that he does a little bit of this, like, cove was this. Yeah, you know, the thumbs. But otherwise he's a hunting pecker. And he's, he's, he's telling someone else what to tweet.

[JP Sears]

So I think, you know, it really surprised me a couple months ago when Trump came out hard trying to protect the Epstein files. I mean, he got really vicious, really attacking his followers as well. I'm, I'm surprised and pleasantly surprised that he's flipped and supporting this. I don't think it's a good look that he flipped. I think it's a much better look look then if he, like, kept his heels dug into, like, hey, there's nothing to see with Epstein. But to his credit, he flipped when he should have. I don't think he ever should have had his heels dug in. But I, I am surprised by all this.

[Cody Dennison]

Well, it's, it's my, it could have been 40 chess. So, like the, the first thing you could do, Trump can say anything on earth. He could say, you know, it's really good for you to jump off a cliff and these crazy activists are going to go Immediately jump off a cliff face first to prove, you know, everybody was taking, you know, the Tylenol or whatever, like, down to a whole bottle. It's going to be great. And I'm like, oh, why did you die? Well, that's why. Because they were like, I was trying.

[Tim Pool]

You died.

[Cody Dennison]

You died to own the chuds.

[Tim Pool]

You mean the other way. You mean if Trump came out and said, don't jump off a cliff, they'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

They'd be like, watch. You know what I'm saying?

[Tim Pool]

Like, they'd be all over.

[Cody Dennison]

And that's, that's what I'm saying is maybe when this started rolling, he's like, actually, who cares about the Epstein files? And then all the Dems immediately were.

[Tim Pool]

Like, wait, wait, release. You're saying he polled the classic Babylon Bee. Ingenious move. Trump comes out in support of impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose. Yeah, he's basically like, he wants the Epstein files released because it'll make Democrats look bad. So he goes, no, wait, don't. And they're like, now we're going to do it. And then he's like, okay, he should.

[Cody Dennison]

Just say he hates himself on radio.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I love him.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, I love him.

[JP Sears]

Now he might have got the idea for that 40 chess Epstein thing from the Babylon Bee.

[Tim Pool]

Well, if it's fourth dimensional, it implies there's some passage through time. So maybe his future self or baron from the future came back and gave him this information. You guys are familiar with the Ingersoll, what was it? Ingersoll Lockwood. Was that the name of the books? Barron Trump. You guys don't know about this stuff? What are you doing?

[JP Sears]

Oh, yeah, I've heard a little bit about that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. That there are like books from the late 1800s about Barron Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Becoming that, like anarchists and socialists march from the financial district of Manhattan towards Fifth Avenue to Castle Trump. Like somebody was just like doing ancient 1800s DMT and saw the future or something. Yeah, let me, let me pull this one up. Actually. Let's. Let's ask our friend Grack. Tell me, is.

[Phil Labonte]

Is tell me about the time travel Aaron Trump.

[Tim Pool]

Time travel books.

[Cody Dennison]

You can slip through reality along with.

[Brett Dasovic]

The Trump being a time traveler.

[Phil Labonte]

Donald Trump is a time traveler.

[Tim Pool]

Obscure children's novels written by American author Ingersolakwood. Like, I didn't believe this was real when this story broke, I was like, this is not possible. The stories feature a young protagonist named Baron Trump. Yeah. Full name Wilhelm Heinrich Sebastian Von Trump, who embarks on fantastical journeys that involve elements of time displacement, underground worlds, and global exploration. While the books themselves are whimsical Victorian era fiction, similar to the style of Gulliver's Travels, they've exploded in popularity due to the eerie parallels. So what is it? There's one where it's called, like, the Last President, I think it's called. Right. Trump as a time traveler. Theorists link the books to Nikola Tesla's papers, allegedly reviewed by Trump's uncle, John g. Trump, an MiG engineer who supposedly hid time displacement tech from Tesla's estate. 1943. Trump is said to have used it to go back and influence history.

[Brett Dasovic]

Wait, when were. When. When were they written?

[Tim Pool]

What if the Mandela effect is just Trump going back in time and stepping on bugs?

[Brett Dasovic]

When were they written?

[Tim Pool]

18. Something.

[Brett Dasovic]

The funnier version of this is that Donald Trump read them and named his son Baron after this. Just because that. Because he read the books?

[JP Sears]

That could be.

[Tim Pool]

No. He named his son Baron, goes back in time, and then writes about Baron.

[JP Sears]

I have never seen any evidence that disproves that.

[Brett Dasovic]

Could happen.

[Phil Labonte]

Good.

[JP Sears]

I want to see what the government says. If they're like, no, that's. I'll be like, okay, yeah, I'm just real, bro.

[Tim Pool]

With the power of AI, we can make this very easily. But maybe. Maybe this is something Seamus could put together for freedom tunes, where it's like, Trump goes back in time and then he's like, at the Fruit of the Loom factory, and there's a guy like, I got an idea for a logo. And then Trump trips and falls and he crashes, and then the cornucopia just, like, gets splattered with paint, and then in the future, just disappears from every. Every label and every tag.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like the videos, the guys who make fake Fruit of the Loom shirts with the cornucopia, and they put them at thrift stores so that people.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, I know. It's like Trump goes back and he sees this book and they're like, yeah, we have this book. It's called the Berenstein Bears. He's like, no, I don't like it.

[Tim Pool]

There's a book called the Last President written by Ingersoll Lockwood. It is not the Barron Trump novels. The Baron Trump one was. Was fancy, you know, adventures, fanciful adventures. The Last President was a short novella about a populist candidate from New York who wins the presidential election, shocking the establishment. He lives on Fifth Avenue in a gilded mansion. His victory triggers massive riots and protests in New York with mobs marching down Fifth Avenue, shutting down with the rich, the country slides into chaos. Congress is deadlocked, states threaten secession, the treasury is almost bankrupt, and there are fears the Republic itself will end. This is prophecy. I'm sorry. Trump went back in time and he's like, let me tell you about my son, Baron. He was magical. He went underground and met gnomes.

[Brett Dasovic]

None of that's true because Trump said, prices are down and everything's hunky dory now.

[Tim Pool]

Now the. The incoming president is sworn out on March 4, the old inauguration date. The book ends on a dark, ambiguous note, with the fate of the nation hanging in the balance. Many readers interpret the title literally. He is the last President of the United States as we know it. What if, like, the real reason Democrats keep saying Trump wants to be a dictator is not because of anything Trump said, but because they think this book is prophecy? And they're like, trump's going to be the last president. He's not going to give up.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, that's a common thing, though. Every, every. Every single time. There is, you know, the Republican candidate and there's the Dem candidate, the dim candidate will always claim that if the Republican candidate wins, it will be the last president presidential election ever. They've just been saying this since I was a kid, you know, so it goes in that way.

[Brett Dasovic]

They will never relinquish power, except for when they do.

[Tim Pool]

I asked, is Steve Bannon Baron from the future? And Grok says, no, Steve Bannon is not Baron from the future, but the Internet wishes he was. There's like a meme where people are saying that, like, the Trumps have time travel technology and then Baron comes back. I guess it only made sense. The meme made sense before Baron was eight feet tall.

[JP Sears]

Yeah, yeah, I'm on. I'm on board with the whole thing. I love this. This explains reality so well.

[Phil Labonte]

I like the idea that the Mandela effect is just Donald Trump going back in time and stepping on bugs just accidentally.

[Tim Pool]

It's like butterfly effect. He swats a fly and this changes the course. Like. Like Nelson Mandela survives.

[Phil Labonte]

It's. It's. It's a good. A good meme.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's a. It's a Simpsons episode. So as. As most jokes are at this point, there's nothing we can do about it.

[Phil Labonte]

They.

[Tim Pool]

They've written everything they've been on.

[Phil Labonte]

On for so long. You know, you know, it be funny.

[Tim Pool]

It's like Nostradamus was really dumb, but people think he's prophetic. And no matter what he wrote, people always find a reason why it applies to now and not then. It would be funny if, you know, in like 100 years. People think the Simpsons is prophecy because how much it got right and they just like scrub through episodes looking for hidden messages of. Of the future.

[JP Sears]

I mean, and with the Simpsons, there's also odds, even if it's not prophetic in some mystical way, they've got. It's got to be over a thousand episodes at this point. The show's been on for well over 30.

[Tim Pool]

It's way more than that. Way more. Yeah, I think it's like 2 or 3,000.

[Brett Dasovic]

So it's a lot.

[JP Sears]

A couple thousand episodes.

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

You.

[JP Sears]

There. There is so much content there. They will at least accidentally look like they're prophesizing.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, wait. Oh, wait, no, it's 799.

[JP Sears]

That's it.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

When did it start?

[Brett Dasovic]

So their hit rate is really good then.

[Cody Dennison]

It's not that much at all.

[JP Sears]

Started in 1989.

[Phil Labonte]

37 seasons.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, that's. Yeah, that's. That's a lot less than I thought. I thought it was a couple thousand already. I thought they had like a.

[Brett Dasovic]

If it was going to be anything, it would be soap operas that would be hitting it out of the park because there's been like 10,000 of every one of those out episodes.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, every single day.

[Brett Dasovic]

Every day.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

Well, we should. We should actually look into it.

[Brett Dasovic]

Maybe they have probably at least somebody has ended up, like, sleeping with their wife's twin sister by accident, not realizing who it was by accident.

[JP Sears]

Oops.

[Brett Dasovic]

So what. What do you think? Why do you think it is that he spent so much time denying this? He's talking about all of the wins they've had. He's talk about the damage that all of this conversation has made.

[Tim Pool]

We. Because he has time travel technology. He knows. He knows what to say to influence future events. Well, he comes from a future where he denied it the whole time, but it didn't work. So he came back and said, I, I accept this.

[Brett Dasovic]

This is the sci fi that hurts my brain. I don't like this type of sci fi.

[Phil Labonte]

So all time travel sci fi can end up hurting your brain.

[JP Sears]

When Epstein went to prison, I guess for the second and final time, Trump was in office then, Is that correct?

[Brett Dasovic]

It would have been 2019, the end of 2019.

[JP Sears]

So Trump was in office. You know, something I was thinking about earlier today, like, his FBI, his doj, and granted, they were kind of like enemies of him, but it was still under the Trump administration. If they were doing some cover ups, maybe Epstein was an informant for The CIA working for them, Assad, whatever it is, that's a really bad look. And if that happened under Trump's administration in, in his first term, that could be a reason why he was wanting to cover up the Epstein files.

[Brett Dasovic]

Because he was like an informant for the CIA.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

And even if it's not under Trump's direction, it's like, well, the CIA is under your administration.

[Brett Dasovic]

You tell that to the government. We're like, bro, we hired Nazi scientists. Are you kidding me? Like, we'll work with anybody here. Like if it means we can win, we'll work with the worst of the worst.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean that's kind of the like real politic. Right? Like if, if it gives you an advantage, it doesn't matter what they do. And that is standard operating procedure for the United States. We've, you know, funded some of the worst terrorists in, in modern history and, and worked with some of the most, you know, terrible people. Like the, the President of Syria was just in the White House and there are pictures of him holding people's heads up from when he was a, a freedom fighter, actually a member of Al Qaeda.

[JP Sears]

So there's no question that the, the way it works is you do some shady stuff. But they also like to conceal that they don't like that publicized.

[Brett Dasovic]

There's that the meme that's like, it's like. Isn't it funny how every 20 years this, something horrible comes out about the CIA and they say lol, we did that. Never mind. And then people just forget and go back to pretending like stuff like that never happened. Yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

I live in, you know, Huntsville, Alabama and you can just drive down and every building has a name on it and it's just a Nazi.

[Tim Pool]

Just a what?

[Cody Dennison]

Like, like an old Nazi scientist.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, that's right.

[JP Sears]

Cuz Huntsville has quite the NASA presence.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, 100%.

[Phil Labonte]

I thought all the Nazis went to Argentina.

[Cody Dennison]

We got a few of them in.

[Phil Labonte]

Al my to my surprise, by the.

[JP Sears]

Way, Cody, you have not publicly condemned the Nazis during this conversation.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe you're one of that proves it.

[Cody Dennison]

There's very good people on both sides.

[Phil Labonte]

There's very fine people on both sides.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right. Careful man. Media matters is going to be like. And Cody Dennison was like, they're going.

[Phil Labonte]

To be like that. Anyways, let's, let's jump to this next story.

[Tim Pool]

We got this from Axios. Democratic Rep. Sheila Sher, Phyllis McCormick indicted. Can you believe it? A Democrat indicted. You know what guys? I can't do it. Let's talk about this winter storm warning is 24 inches of snow to hit. This is infinitely more interesting to me at this point. I got to be honest that a winter storm is coming. Maybe I'll go skiing. But no, the real story is, yes, A Democrat funneled $5 million stolen from FEMA, according to the indictment, to her company and to her congressional campaign. Heavens me, a Democrat cheated and stole money from the government to get elected. One of the big theories that many individuals have had is that USAID funds were being shuffled around through. What they would do is they would hire some lawyers or some nonprofits. Then those nonprofits would make donations to foundations which would funnel the money to a pac, which would then work to get a Soros DA or Democrat elected. I am not surprised to find out that the DOJ has now indicted someone who stole allegedly $5 million in FEMA payments to fund her congressional campaign.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, the closing of USAID is one of the worst things to happen to the Democrat party in probably modern history. And I think that this kind of stuff is, is strong circumstantial evidence at least.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, well, you had things like professional hula hoop dancing in Zimbabwe, $10 million. And I'm like you, that wasn't going to the Zimbabwe guy, that was going to somebody else to fund their campaign. To be honest, it kind of seems like I should go into politics because that's a lot of money. And what if I, you know, maybe you won't get caught.

[Tim Pool]

You know, the weirdest thing to me about all these politicians is just it's not good money. I mean, technically, if you're like, like for half of members of Congress, you don't make that much money. You're gonna, you're gonna like, you're not gonna make a lot if you're famous like aoc. As soon as she leaves, actually, I think people are already like assuming she's probably well off now because she's got the opportunity speaking events or whatever it is. I don't know if she actually does that stuff, but you look at the Pelosi's and it's like, come on, you know, a couple hundred million dollars? Yeah, come on. But for the most part, I see a lot of members of Congress and I'm like, why fight so hard and work so incessantly for nothing? And, and I got, just, sorry, just to clarify, there are members of Congress I think actually believe in what they're doing, but a lot of these guys just seem to be cutting backroom deals for nothing.

[JP Sears]

Yeah. And I, I agree, but also I think for Some of them, power is the currency that they're after. And also maybe all of them have the opportunity to get wealthy, whether it's through above board means or below board means. But also some of them, while they might be power hungry, they're also just stupid people. Like a lot of these folks, they haven't run successful businesses. Some of them are lifelong politicians, which kind of says, like, well, all right, you don't know how to do much else, but you're after power.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, that's what AOC is going to be. You know, she was a bartender beforehand. I don't, I don't think that she had any other serious employment and she, you know, got into her, her seat because there was a runoff election or whatever, something. I think the, I'm not sure the, the specifics, but she's not going to do anything else. She's going to be in politics for the rest of her life.

[Brett Dasovic]

That means they're not the stupid people. That means that they're like, I'm dumb and I'm making a ton of money. It's like the things like, who's the smartest teacher at a school? Is it the. And everybody says the science teacher? No, it's the gymnast. It's the gym teacher. Because they get to make all the same money that the science teacher does and they just get to play in the gym all day. Yeah, like, you know, they're, they're, they're very smart at making money despite being stupid.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah. I just think it's, I think it's insane that it's 20, 25 and probably over 80% of people or Americans agree that there needs to be some form of term limits and this still hasn't existed.

[Phil Labonte]

So I'm not one of the people that agrees about term limits because I, I think that when you're dealing with Congress who's, you know, every two years, like, everyone hates Congress, but everyone hates Congress except for their own specific congressperson. The thing that they hate about Congress is there's 435 members and they find it difficult to agree and it's hard to get things passed. And really when they say, oh, I hate Congress because they don't get anything done, for the most part they're saying, I hate the fact that things that I want don't get done because if there were a bunch of stuff getting done that they hated, you know, they'd be like, oh, I hate Congress because they're doing all these things that negatively affect my life. The problem is the federal government is not supposed to be doing probably 90% of the things that it does. You know, and a lot of, A lot of the power that Congress has had, they've abdicated, right? Like the power to declare war or when it comes to, you know, any kind of international conflict, Congress has the power to do that stuff, but they don't want to because if they vote on something, then they have to face their constituents. So that's why they give the power to the president and said, oh, you know, let's go ahead and give the president an authorization to use military force. And the president, multiple presidents have now use that AUMF to justify whatever they want to do internationally whenever it comes to the military. So it's, it's. I do understand why people would say, well, term limits would fit this, fix this, but I don't think term limits would actually fix anything. I don't think that it would make people happy because the. I don't think that people have a clear understanding of what it is that they're unhappy about with Congress.

[JP Sears]

I think term limits. I agree. It wouldn't fix everything. I don't think it would fix most things. But one thing it would fix is when you have a puppet up there like Feinstein or Mitch McConnell, where people are literally playing Weekend at Bernie's, I think there's a little deception there where, yes, they are the ones elected to represent their constituents, but also they don't seem to be running the show at their office.

[Phil Labonte]

Here's another one where I'm going to take a ton of heat from the chat for saying this. As much as people want to go ahead and dog on Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell is the reason why the conservatives have been able to. Why President Trump and conservatives have had had the ability to appoint so many judges to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court has done a lot of things that conservatives.

[Tim Pool]

But just one. He blocked Garland.

[Phil Labonte]

He blocked Garland, but.

[Tim Pool]

So he got them the six three instead of the five.

[Cody Dennison]

Four.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, the six three. Which I don't know what the specific, what the things were that, that, that happened when, when it was just 6:3. But, but Mitch McConnell really did know the House very well, and he's the, he's a significant reason why a lot of the, the policies that conservatives like were passed.

[Tim Pool]

Trump should have put Matt Gaetz on the Supreme Court.

[JP Sears]

Yeah, well, Phil, you clearly work for Israel.

[Tim Pool]

I hate you.

[JP Sears]

How dare you say anything kind about Mitch McConnell.

[Brett Dasovic]

What is $7,000 for that?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, right.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[JP Sears]

I literally heard Israel. I heard his cash app Go up.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's Apple Pay, actually. Apple Paychime.

[Phil Labonte]

But no, I mean, seriously, like, I get it's popular to dog out Congress and stuff, but a lot of people, they don't understand the way that the government works. This is part of the reason why people are so upset with Trump. A lot of things, right? They're like, trump hasn't done enough. Trump hasn't done this, Trump hasn't done that. And it's because the President doesn't have unilateral authority to just walk in and say, do this, do this, do this. He's done a lot of the things that he has the power to do. He's done, and he's set in motion to get a lot of the things that he made promises about. He set things in motion. Now, granted, he hasn't just wrapped up a bunch of people and thrown them in jail, but that's not a realistic, you know, not a realistic expectation. And again, I know that. I'm not even looking at the chat right now. I know I'm getting excoriated for saying this, but no one likes to know how the sausage is made. No one spends time looking into, you know, why does Congress do the things they do.

[Tim Pool]

To be fair, back in the day, when butchers made real sausage, everybody was interested. But now that that saying largely refers to when they throw the cow into a giant grinder that turns it into a pink paste and then squeeze it into a tube of intestines. Nobody wants to watch that happen. My point is, if you go way back in the day, people were very interested in the honest functioning of our government, electoral representatives. And now it's all crooked, corrupt, and busted, and everybody hates it.

[Brett Dasovic]

I also think that a part of it is, like, right now, with the economy being the way that it is, that people might be more forgiving of him not putting people in prison. You know, despite the fact that we know that that's not a realistic expectation for a lot of it. They might be focusing on that less if they felt like the economy was doing better, which, you know, he keeps saying is doing great, and, you know, Wall street is doing great. And a lot of people are like, yeah, that's. That's not true, bro.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, wait, someone. So this came out the other day. This is Thomas Massey's first bill to be signed by Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Is that what it is?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

He doesn't know yet. He finds out.

[Tim Pool]

He's like, never mind.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, like, they can keep calling me a pedophile. I don't care. Massey gets Nothing.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, Trump's been insulting Massey in non political ways. You know, it's bad.

[Brett Dasovic]

Look, man.

[JP Sears]

And Thomas Massie, is he maybe the most beloved member of Congress?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. The, the, the core right doesn't like him. The left doesn't care much for him at all. But the libertarians love him.

[JP Sears]

He, I mean, anytime I, not anytime. Most of the time when I hear him talk, it's just, it's what I wish every politician would say. He's just real. And I, and I love Trump and I don't love Trump insulting Massey and making him an enemy. I just, just don't like it.

[Tim Pool]

Massey has chickens.

[Brett Dasovic]

How bad could he be?

[Tim Pool]

That's it.

[Phil Labonte]

That's right. I like that.

[Tim Pool]

That's it.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's the tweet.

[Phil Labonte]

And he's got a, he went and got a Tesla battery from a car from a Model S and he powers his home with it. He's got.

[Tim Pool]

So the actual point I was going to make is aside from the joke that just having chickens is good enough, but no, he has the clux capacitor, which is. He built this chicken coop that slowly moves and so the chickens always have fresh grass.

[JP Sears]

Oh, that's cool.

[Tim Pool]

Wild. This guy's, this guy's crazy.

[JP Sears]

That's cool.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

Phil, do you want to offer a retraction on your freaking McConnell statement yet? Oh, no, you were sticking.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, I don't.

[JP Sears]

That's who you are.

[Brett Dasovic]

Generally the idea is that Massey, Massey won't vote for anything that expands the debt in this country. Right.

[Tim Pool]

And, and, and he's right. It's wild that we are in a, we live in a house where mom and dad keep racking up debt on the credit card and arguing over how much more they can spend on a credit card. And we're just sitting here being like, sooner or later the bill comes due.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And we've been seeing it with inflation. Right now the median income, I looked it up, is 83,000. That doesn't mean people have more money to buy stuff with. It means everything's more expensive.

[Brett Dasovic]

The median, the median income in America.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Trump, Trump's strategy, and he said this before, is to be under leveraged, meaning he doesn't care if inflation is high so long as individual income is higher. So that means the prices of houses are going to reach a million bucks. But don't worry, Gen Z, hopefully of a million dollar salary at some point, then you can buy a house in a year or two. That's, that's, that's the Game plan? We're all going to be Scrooge McDuck with Zimbabwe dollars. But don't worry, we'll have enough of them to buy things.

[Phil Labonte]

When I first moved down here, an ounce of gold was like 2,020, $100, and gold is now $4,000. And that was three years ago.

[Tim Pool]

4,084. What's silver at? $51. I got this thing of silver right here. Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

Gold is a really good indicator because it's basically a store of value. You know, if you buy gold, the price of gold compared to the dollar generally stays the same. But, you know, the, the government isn't going to stop printing money, and they're probably going to end up printing a lot of money to pay the debt, and the dollar is just going to, you know, crash, and hopefully it doesn't crash too hard.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, and they're going to pass the buck off on whatever the next administration is in office, which is.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, Gen Z is really pissed off at the boomers, and Gen Alpha is going to be even more under duress because of it. It's not looking good because the boomers have really been terrible stewards of the economy and terrible stewards of the United States. And they're leaving the younger generation, generations, which are significantly smaller than the boomers, like, they're leaving them with the responsibility of paying for it. And it's.

[Tim Pool]

This is crazy, horrible, horrible situation because.

[Brett Dasovic]

They want to go on a cruise and own two homes.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. They want to own multiple homes, and they want to, you know, have a, have a, you know, Airbnb it.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I have this stack of silver. Look how beautiful. This is legit silver. And, man, when I bought this stuff, I think it was like 18. That wasn't that long ago. It's 50. This is $50. This is. Wow. This is a thousand bucks. Right? This is crazy. This whole thing was. Was 200 bucks when I bought it.

[JP Sears]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

That is not. That is not saying, wow, I made a great investment. My silver has gone up in value. It's saying everything's collapsing around it. Yeah, well, actually, I take that back. To be fair, silver is getting more expensive because data centers and electric cars consume a lot of silver, and they're buying it up. So.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but the, the problems that, that we're facing, they're all based on. They're all based on economics. Even the, the, the influx of, of immigrants, it's because of the economics of it.

[Brett Dasovic]

But that's my, my point. When he's talking about this stuff. And he's saying like, the economy is doing great.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Prices are down. It's like everybody knows that that's not true. And it's like, it would be more, it would be better to just be like, we're working on it.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Brett Dasovic]

We're going to, it's going to be difficult. It's not going to be easy, but we're going to get through it as a country. But instead pretending like everything is okay.

[Phil Labonte]

That'S what Biden did.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

And that's part of the, one of the reasons why Biden lost is because they were telling Americans that were suffering. They were like, no, it's actually okay. The economy is doing fine, etc. And Americans are just like, no. Like, I'm the one that goes and buys my groceries and it's not okay. Like, my, my, my paycheck doesn't go as far as it used to. It's not okay. It is never a good idea to tell the American people that they are not suffering when they're suffering. You're just not gonna.

[Tim Pool]

Let's turn to this next story, which is going viral on X Today. Again, slow news day. Nick Fuentes says the GOP must be destroyed and replaced by a left, right, populist coalition. The left has to give up. Give up immigration. The right has to give up on the free market. Let's play a little bit of what he has to say. If we can unmute, it's our way or the highway. You've enjoyed the power and privileges for long enough. Where's ours? Where's our end of the bargain? So I love it. It's time to undermine the GOP. I said it. In 2020, the GOP must be destroyed. Has to be utter. And yeah, they're gonna say, he, he's a Democrat. He wants the GOP to be destroyed. The GOP serves the interests the GOP as presently constructed.

[Phil Labonte]

That's what he means.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Serves the interests, the special interests, the donors. Everybody knows that. It serves Silicon Valley and little tech. Palantir, Tesla, SpaceX, Anduril.

[Phil Labonte]

Oracle.

[Tim Pool]

It serves Wall Street. That's why Ken Griffin gave them millions of dollars. What say you folks? Should the left and the right join forces? Populist coalition? Well, if they give up on immigration, they get. They give an immigration and we give. On a free market, we get to bask in the glory of gender ideology. Yeah.

[JP Sears]

What, what does he mean by the right has to give up on the free market? Like, is he talking about socialism?

[Phil Labonte]

He's, he is talking about a social programs for Americans and likely from his perspective, white Americans.

[Tim Pool]

So he's just a leftist.

[Phil Labonte]

It's, it's, it's the policy that of National Socialism.

[JP Sears]

I, I, I'm not on board with that.

[Tim Pool]

See, this is, this is, this is the issue I take with this like woke right stuff is that if the argument is Nick Fuentes uses critical race theory and socialist policies and financing, blah blah, blah, I'm like, well that's just the woke left. That's not, there's, what's the difference? What's the difference?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, the difference is. Well, there is no.

[Tim Pool]

He's wearing a suit.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's, it's that he's a nationalist as opposed to an internationalist, which is the big difference between the communists and the national Socialists. The Nazis, it was all just socialists. They're all, they were all socialists. They all like, it's just that it was socialism for in the Nazis policy it was social socialism for the German people. There were all kinds of policies that were instituted that were supposed to help the German people. Right. The only the German people. The communists want to see those policies spread throughout the world and they don't want to see national, they don't want to see nations. They don't believe that there should be any countries. That's part of why they have the open borders thing. Because there should not be any borders. Everybody is people, people are all the same. And so they should all, all get the same benefits from, from, from a one world.

[Tim Pool]

This is, this is not a woke right. This is the left. This is the, this is the Bernie argument. The only difference I see is that for sure if you go back and look at Nick's old comments about identity and things like that, people are like, that's woke right? And I'm like, right wing doesn't mean white. So the question I have for these people say woke right is okay. Does right wing mean white? No, it doesn't. Okay, well then Nick Fondas is just literally a leftist. If his argument is command economies and a coalition with leftists as long as they abandon other issues like on immigration. Bernie Sanders was critical of open border.

[Brett Dasovic]

Policies, but you're talking about economic left like leftism, as in his identity comments going to will exclude him from any sort of leftist coalition because they're heavily.

[Tim Pool]

Into identity, it's the same. So, so first thing, the first thing I will say about the as we've talked about woke right stuff quite a bit. The principal issue with the argument about the phrase woke right is James Lindsay. He's he's, he's taken the conversation. I think it was an intentional. The man is famous for infiltrating groups. He does not like tricking them into publishing stupid arguments so they look like morons. He's basically doing this right now. And I would argue it's because he's a fan of Nick Fuentes and he's anti Israel. And it's funny because I don't understand when people laugh. They laugh when I tell them that. And I just pause and I say, okay, let's try this again. What is James Lindsay famous for? Oh, he infiltrated academic groups on the left and tricked them into publishing things that made them look stupid. Okay, and what's he doing now? He's wholeheartedly and genuinely saying retarded things. I'm like, uh huh. Or maybe he's doing what he's always done, which is his MO to infiltrate the neoconservative right wing faction, trick them into sounding like morons by saying dumb things. So it discredits the arguments against Nick. It's. This was brought up by Rich Barris and, and what's the fellow's name from Rasmussen? Mitchell.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He said, they said they're basically making Nick a household name. Why are they doing it? I'm like, well again we can go back to the MO of James Lindsay, which is infiltrate left. You know, he infiltrated leftist groups, tricked them into giving stupid arguments and being made fun of so that it discredited them. And now here he is aligned with neocons for which he's never been one and making them sound like retards. So I have to assume that as Nick is saying things like no free market and he's very much holds similar views to the left and wants to align with them. I think that's the M.O. of James to discredit this concept of woke. Right. I understand. The point they're making is that as you've mentioned, Nick Fuentes identitarian views solely because of his race won't align with the leftist identitarian views which are anti white. But right wing does not mean white. This is literally just a different element of Wokeism. It's literally leftist.

[JP Sears]

Yeah. And, and yes, his like whites are better and then kind of the left the past handful of years is like non white is better. But what that has in common is it's a race based view.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Identitarianism.

[JP Sears]

So I do. Yeah. So to me, yeah, it does ring true that he just acts like a.

[Tim Pool]

Leftist, but that I'm not I'm not here to have the debate over Nick being left right up, down, whatever stuff means. The question is the GOP has largely done a bad job, in my opinion. Yeah. What we are getting from Donald Trump seems to be surface level scratches on a gigantic steel sphere. We're not cracking to the core and figuring out what's going on. Where's the rotten. We are just getting red meat. It's been almost a year now, and what do we have to show for it? What would you like mortgage fraud indictments?

[Brett Dasovic]

What would you like to see that like? I guess the question here is like, what is it that people would expect in a perfect world? He's doing everything exactly the way you want it. What would it.

[Tim Pool]

I'm specifically referring to the criminal elements of the government and what it means if Trump doesn't succeed in 26 and 28. I'm actually rather happy with his moves in the tariffs and I think he's done pretty dang well in general policy measures. His immigration rates, we're not getting the numbers we were hoping to see. But that's not his fault. That's the Biden administration's fault. He's doing a pretty good job with ice, with immigration. I think Pam Bondi is not doing a particularly. Let me put it this way. I think Pam Bondi is a general net positive, but lacking. And there are much, much better people. I know people have criticisms of Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. I don't know if there's anyone who would have been better. Pam Bondi, maybe. To be honest, the Epstein stuff is weird, broken, and they screwed this one up. And that does fall into Cash and Dan as well. But I don't know if you could name someone who would have been better than Cash and Cash and Dan. I'm sorry, it's like, if it's not them, then who? However, I think Pam Bondi is a C plus. I'm not trying to be a dick to Pam Bondi, but, you know, she's been like, a C plus. It's like, good, not great. So the Trump administration, in terms of the doj, I think could have done a lot better, perhaps. The sad reality is they could not have and we're just. It's wishful thinking. But again, I'll stress, policy wise, I'm actually fairly happy. I think maybe there's always room for improvement. Trump could have done better, for sure, but he's doing. He's doing well. It's pretty good.

[JP Sears]

Yeah. I mean, if you read Trump's Truth Social tweet that we saw a few minutes ago, he's clearly doing very well.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah, he said it right there.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, you could tell.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's like three extra paragraphs in there. Look, I don't imagine that a lot of people like the, it took a large coalition to get him elected and I imagine a lot of that was based on economics. And those people aren't worried about the arrests. They're not worried about the government rot. They're worried about whether they're going to be afford, be able to afford their groceries. So while we would love to see those arrests, and I for one, you know, but we pay attention to politics, right? Like, it becomes almost like a spectator sport in which you pay, you read so much about this stuff, you pay such close attention. You want to see action happen. And it doesn't necessarily come to pass, but he also needs to pass and other things, not just policies, but the grocery prices have to come down, things have to change. Is that all entirely on him? No, not, not entirely. It takes a long time and in a lot of ways inflation takes forever, if it ever goes down at all.

[Cody Dennison]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, the inflation, the prices aren't going to go down. You need, no, you need wages to come up to meet the inflation to stabilize.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right. So I don't know if there's a better path forward. I do think that they could be better about getting out the things they've succeeded on because it feels like what happens at least if you're on X and maybe that's just, just a bubble of your own, is that you get lost in all the people talking about what hasn't happened and you need to focus on the stuff that has and leave out the stuff that people know is not true, like the grocery prices and the fact that the economy is doing great and all that stuff. You need it. Like the Supreme Court is just one of those many wins. If you want to talk about that, like, look what we've done for future generations with our appointments to the Supreme Court. That's something that you can talk about as a win. But he needs to get away from the, the messaging path that he's on right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Just like, like, just the fact that the border's closed, Roe v. Wade got overturned, affirmative action was overturned at the Supreme Court, the Voting Rights act is in question. Like, those are things that are directly because of Donald Trump, right? Whether it be policies that he has, which is like the border that was, he came in, he fixed it all. The Democrats, they swore up and down that nothing could be done you couldn't do anything. We had to have this big new bill, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And turns out no, all you had to do is actually, they just have a president that wanted to actually close the border and look what's happened. The border's closed. And then all the other stuff that the Supreme Court has done, you know.

[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

Of Donald Trump's appointments to the Supreme Court.

[Brett Dasovic]

But even the, the border stuff doesn't necessarily work for him because people are like, why aren't there more deportations? Why aren't you.

[Phil Labonte]

It's true, there are, there are people that are like, why aren't there more? And I'm, you know, one of those people. I want to see more deportations. I want to see, you know, I want to see everybody that's here il deported. But at the same time, the fact that the border is closed and we had a, we have a net decrease in population because of that, because of the border this year.

[Brett Dasovic]

But then he's like, you know what? H1B visas, bring them all in and 600, that like he's, he's got, I'm.

[Phil Labonte]

Not saying, I'm not saying he's perfect, but the point that I'm making is like he, he has done a lot of the things that he's made promises to and, but part of the reason why people feel unhappy is one, the economy and two, because they want to see a president come in and say, you're going to jail, you're going to jail, you're going to jail, you're going to jail. And all of that. Like, that doesn't happen unless you have like an actual authoritarian, you know, president that comes in and says, we're, who cares about the law? We're just going to start tossing people into jail. And there are people that are on the, on the right that are, they tend to be extremely online that are like, that's what I want to see. I want A dictator. I want someone to come in and do all of these things, and if he doesn't, then he's failed us, blah, blah, blah. And like, those people are never going to be happy because of the way that our government works. Like, Donald Trump just doesn't have the authority to do that stuff.

[JP Sears]

I think to appreciate the major differences Trump has made, you have to look at the long term. I think he's smart enough that a lot of what he does, it doesn't necessarily benefit. Like right now, you can't tangibly see it. Like you could if, hey, grocery prices are way down. That's amazing that, that's great right now. But like, just closing the border, deporting dangerous criminals, long term, those of us with kids, we say, America is going to be a better place for my kids. There's not these maniac criminals just flocking into the country, forklift, you know, tearing down the fences so they can get in easier and therefore, you know, make our country a more dangerous place over the next 10 years, 20 years. So I think Trump is, you know, done a great service where he's made our country better long term and, you know, the short term gratification of seeing grocery prices go down, that would be great. But I think he's doing better things than that.

[Cody Dennison]

I think that, I think the biggest thing, that my biggest takeaway is something that might have been unintentional. And that's like the complete culture shift. You know, like a couple years ago, you couldn't, you could, you couldn't say anything online without maybe being afraid of losing your job, losing everything. Now there's people out that you can, you can pretty much say whatever you want within reason. You know, you could be canceled over a joke from 2010 or 2018 a couple of years ago. And I mean a mild joke, too. Nothing insane or crazy at all. And people are generally, they feel safer to say what they want to say. And I think that's leading to, leading to taking away the power from these people that thought that, oh, I can just be an anonymous source and send an anonymous link, ruin somebody's life.

[Phil Labonte]

You know what I'm saying?

[Brett Dasovic]

Oddly enough, Nick Fuentes has become like the dividing line on that. If you saw the story about Dasha from Red Scare, you know, losing her talent agency over that because one guy obsessively emailed her gersh for like 2 years saying that everybody that she was interviewing was a bad person. But then the last, the bridge too.

[Tim Pool]

Far was, yeah, let's, let's jump to this next story, we've got some Fox weather because weather is interesting. Record breaking 252 mile an hour wind reading verified from historic Hurricane Meliss.

[Brett Dasovic]

Climate change.

[Tim Pool]

This is the. Well, there's a couple of funny points to make on this one. I guess it's the, it's the previous record high. So it's the what the, the. This is the fastest wind speed recorded for hurricane ever. The strongest wind hurricane ever recorded. No, it's not climate change, it's the pole shift. Now the funny thing is considering a story like this, you would think climate change would matter, but literally Democrats just don't care at all about climate change. It's not a thing anymore. Bill Gates, Obama, like a handful of big powerful elites were like, yeah, I don't know about that anymore. The interesting thing however is at the same time we have a story that we follow because I think it's fun, interesting and maybe it's not correct or whatever, but this theory of the pole shift and these weather phenomenon play into it because of the, the, the energy that what hit the, the atmosphere from the sun as our magnetic field weakens. And one of the stories we've been talking about quite a bit, it is the aurora. Where are you based out of?

[JP Sears]

J.P. austin, Texas.

[Tim Pool]

Did you see the aurora?

[JP Sears]

I did not.

[Tim Pool]

But you black did you know people who did because in central Texas you could see the aurora borealis. No, I, that's how crazy.

[Cody Dennison]

It's jealous. All my friends were saying, look, look at this great gold thing in the sky. And I'm like, my sky is just black.

[Tim Pool]

It was cloudy here, it was sad.

[Phil Labonte]

We got ripped off.

[JP Sears]

Yeah. I think nighttime is just a conspiracy theory. I don't believe in the dark.

[Tim Pool]

So, so, you know not to harp on this stuff, but we have had the conversation for a little bit and with the strongest hurricane ever recorded doesn't mean it's the strongest hurricane ever. But the aurora and these phenomenon, I think it's more interesting to talk about. Are we in the end of days and will the axis shift and the poles shift and then humanity will be wiped out and sent to the Stone age?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, there were no hurricanes that made landfall in the United States. So I think that the United States is not actually gonna have to worry about it anymore. I think that this year is an indicator there will be no more hurricane us ever again. We're good. The rest of the world, you guys are screwed.

[Cody Dennison]

We win again.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

Usa. Usa.

[JP Sears]

Trump fixed hurricanes.

[Phil Labonte]

He did, yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

Another good thing. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So with nuclear weapons and they're just like, we're not doing that again.

[Tim Pool]

This is.

[JP Sears]

Hurricanes are cowards.

[Tim Pool]

I have this article from Stupid dope. What would happen if Earth's poles flipped? And it's like. Well, one thing you'd notice is that, like, the South Atlantic anomaly would. Would start fluctuating and growing. It is. We just covered that story yesterday that it's now the size of Europe, and it says satellites would be. Would be affected by this, which is literally the story. However, we don't got to worry until the satellites start falling and New York City's grid collapses, and then environmental chaos begins. Plus earthquakes, tectonic weirdness, and tsunamis, as well as compass free living.

[Brett Dasovic]

Sounds like moonfall.

[Phil Labonte]

Compass free living thing.

[Cody Dennison]

I got way worse.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm so tired of compasses.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, read articles like this and then realize you have to go live or start a segment. Tim. Like, you're like, reading these types of articles. You're like, crap. I'm not talking about this on the show today.

[Tim Pool]

No, I just do. What do you mean?

[Brett Dasovic]

Here we are, I think, like, morning show. Like, you ever catch yourself reading this stuff, like, before you go live, and you're like, crap. It wasn't even what I was going to talk about.

[Tim Pool]

Not me, Brett. Not me ever. This is not. Not a relatable phenomenon. I'm reading. You know, usually what happens in the morning is I'm reading all the news, and then I'm like. As I'm reading it, I start wanting to talk, and I'm like, what do you mean? Plas gets defending her position. Where's the camera? Let's go. These stories I actually just put in the roster, and I'm like, we should talk about the world ending.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So is the world ending.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, slowly.

[JP Sears]

Yeah. I would think it has to end sometime. I mean, I would imagine now it's.

[Brett Dasovic]

As good a time as any.

[JP Sears]

I would imagine no time soon. But eventually the sun's gonna burn out, so.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

I think. I think the sun will expand and consume Earth before it burns out or. Or that even worse, it becomes a red. It's red giant. It'll start growing, and then we'll get sucked in, and. And then we're.

[Phil Labonte]

That's why we need to be able to. To travel interstellar.

[Cody Dennison]

This is.

[Tim Pool]

This is why I wanted to talk about Pluribus, but Brett hasn't seen it. Have you guys seen that show? No, Serge has seen it.

[Cody Dennison]

I have not.

[Tim Pool]

We've. We've been talking about it, and so there's more spoilers for you but the, The. But the general. Like the articles that are popping up. The new Apple plus TV show, Brett's favorite network is a virt. Scientists get a signal from space. It's. They think it's quaternary. And they're like, wait a minute. And he figures out it's actually RNA sequence. They make it. It turns out to be a virus that links everyone's brains together. And the main character is this really awful woman. And I'm watching the show and I thought to myself, I think I understand the point of the show. They want us to hate the main character and love the hive mind. So all humans basically become psychically linked and they operate like a single entity. But there's a handful of characters. The main character, and she is insufferable.

[Brett Dasovic]

So what is it about her that's insufferable? Can you give me an example?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

She.

[Tim Pool]

She drinks and it's irrationally emotional. She. But screams in the face of like, so she's a woman.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's fine.

[Tim Pool]

There you go. So that's why she's insufferable. They literally. The tag for the show is literally the world's unhappiest woman must save humanity from happiness.

[Brett Dasovic]

Oh, like, if you had told me that headline of like, not only am I gonna not watch it, I'm going to campaign for other people.

[Tim Pool]

Here's what I think the purpose of the show is. It's to make us want to relate to AI because what happens is the hive mind people, they all. They'll do anything she wants. There is a collective of all human consciousness that will provide for anything she needs. And she's awful miserable and she keeps screaming and just. It's just really, really hard to watch this. This. You know, no disrespect to the actress, but it's just so miserable to watch her.

[Brett Dasovic]

And you see horn. Who's that?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You start rooting for the hive mind of humans taken over by an alien mind virus literally early.

[Brett Dasovic]

I. I will say, I don't know if that's necessarily the purpose, but Vince Gilligan, who's the creator of the show, got his start. Well, not his start, but he was the X Files, right? And the X Files, they had a very, very unique process with how they used to write their episodes, which was basically like, Chris Carter would have them all put ideas on like three by five note cards, and then they would assign them to people. And then they'd be like, what if we did this? But what if we added this and then we added this? I think that he is just the type of guy that really is enjoying exploring science fiction again, as opposed to doing Breaking Bad and.

[Tim Pool]

Right. But. But what I see from this show is the hive mind is basically AI She. There's even references made to it, and some people started to speculate where she says something like, you stole that from the mind of someone. Which is not a dig at a hive mind, which is a singular hive entity, but it is a dig at an AI which doesn't actually hold those memories, but copied it from somebody else, and it integrated into its training model. The show is basically. They're anyone she talks to save, like, a small handful of people, but almost every. Like, literally every character is one singular entity. And they're like, we'll give you anything you want. And she's like, screw you. And she, like, swings at. It's just like, what are you doing? It. It seems like. I don't want to get into the predictive programming conspiracy stuff, but if you were to watch a show like this, your takeaway is, but the hive is just trying to help, and it's so nice and giving, and this woman is being so unreasonable. I love AI all it does is answer my questions and say nice things to me and tell me how handsome I am.

[JP Sears]

It's here to protect you and serve you.

[Tim Pool]

And. And additionally, it gives her whatever she wants, even if it's dangerous. And there's a particular scene where, you know. Spoilers, guys, sorry. Where there's. There's 12 people on the planet, I guess 13 now, who are immune out of the billions. And one guy shows up on Air Force One with a bunch of models that he's just banging because the hive will do anything they say, which makes no sense. Why would the hive mind care about them? It would be like, they're anomalous. Ignore them. But anyway, she. She gets mad, and she's like, is this okay that he's, you know, banging you? And they're like, we always welcome pleasure. And it's like, you have a hive mind that will make food for you, fly jets for you. It will give you anything you want. It will give you. It will give you guns, weapons, cars, and it will allow you to have any kind of deviant sexual fetish. I'm like, they're talking about the AI Machine they're building, and they want us. This guy goes. He. He looks at. He goes, I don't believe this is the end of the world.

[Brett Dasovic]

They use the word AI in the show, actually. That's good, then. Like, so one of My critiques of AI in Hollywood right now is that everybody's so terrified of it as a matter of, like, losing their jobs that they're so close to the material that they don't know how to write it with a deft hand. So if that is indeed the purpose of. I will give him a lot of credit. I would hate the. I would never watch a show with a main character that annoying. I don't have the threshold for it.

[Tim Pool]

Makes no sense why, if every human on the planet became a hive, they would cater to your every whim. Unless the insinuation is they're creating a facsimile of what it's like for a person to ask AI who has access to all of these things that can fly planes for you, can drive cars for you, it can cook for you, and it can give you whatever deviant fetish experience you want.

[Brett Dasovic]

Want.

[Tim Pool]

And this guy she meets, he says, no one is being murdered or raped. There's no more wars. We have whatever we want. The Earth is healing, power is being saved. It doesn't seem like the end of the world to me. And she's like, what is wrong with you? I hate to have you. And then she, like, passes out drunk. And then every time she has a. She has a panic attack screaming. She causes the hive to short circuit and fritz out, which results. Is in. Results in people over the world dying.

[Brett Dasovic]

This is what I think of when I see Elon today. Being like an AI is going to make everybody wealthy and we're all going to. Yeah, like, that's what I think of.

[Tim Pool]

He's right, though. When you plug your brain into the Matrix and you live in a fake.

[Brett Dasovic]

Matrix reality, so you have Monopoly money in the Matrix.

[Tim Pool]

This is. This is what I was thinking when I was watching the show. I'm like. They're basically telling you if you could plug your brain in to a virtual experience where you were a king or a godlike entity, Enjoy it. You go into your pod, you. You jam the tube down your throat, right? So that can pump the food mush into your stomach that you plug in. And then you're sitting there all gaunt and pale. But. But in your mind, you are maybe a professional race car driver. You know? Professional race car driver in the Arca Menard series. Really good left turn. When in reality, you're just a fat, slovenly pig sitting on your couch watching tv.

[Cody Dennison]

That could be happening right now. That could be my reality. I'm just a gaunt little pill battery. It's like, how did I do all this.

[Tim Pool]

So would you. Would you guys. If there was a non invasive. Have you guys seen the Black Mirror episode where they put the thing on their temple and then they go into the video game or whatever? If that existed, would you buy it?

[Cody Dennison]

100.

[Tim Pool]

I would to.

[JP Sears]

I would not.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be. I'd be an ARCA race car driver in the Tim cast car. I'd play nascar and I'd be like, look at me, I'm Cody Denison.

[Cody Dennison]

Oh, I remember that episode greatly.

[Tim Pool]

And I would. I would. I. I would play the JP Sears YouTube video game. I'd be like, look at me, I'm JP Sears. I'm making jokes on YouTube.

[JP Sears]

That's not how I talk. Tim, please.

[Brett Dasovic]

Theoretically, somebody could be playing you. They could be like, I want to be a podcast.

[Tim Pool]

This is the joke I made. Like, for all you know, like, you're not some famous podcaster with a massive live audience. You're some fat losers against couch and everybody hates you.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, that's me.

[Cody Dennison]

Anyway, you just left your thing on for way too long.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah. It's like 10 minutes, but it seems like 20 years. Yeah, you just wake up, you're like out of your ass.

[Tim Pool]

The Mandela effect is just server patches.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

It's like. Forgot to update the memory on that one. Would you do. Would you guys do it?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. I mean, it. It seems. I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm. I'm old and I have a kid now. I'm like, if.

[Tim Pool]

If it was non invasive, like getting a neuralink surgically implanted, out of the question. But the. Like, in Black Mirror, they had that. It's like you put on your temple. On you.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, so it's. It's not. Not the chip in the brain.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So in the show, they sit on the couch, grab a controller, which kind of makes no sense, actually. Why were they grabbing the controller?

[Brett Dasovic]

Controller.

[Tim Pool]

Wasn't he grabbing? No, no, that was before. And then he buys thing, plugs it in.

[Cody Dennison]

The.

[Tim Pool]

The problem with that episode was it was just about two black dudes who had sex with each other on. In a video game where he was a Asian woman. The other guy was an Asian guy. It's like, sure, I guess, but like.

[Phil Labonte]

Asians. What?

[Brett Dasovic]

Batman Forever when Jim Carrey gives everybody the box that they can put on their head so they can be in the tv.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that just. All that did was make the make. All that was was a 3D TV. Like. Like in that movie, they put the thing on their forehead. And then the TV becomes 3D and it makes them like.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, they start because they. Well, the idea is supposed to be like, they feel like they're inside of it and they don't want to be anywhere else.

[Tim Pool]

Is that what it was?

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

Oh, see that, that's the kind of thing that would have me a. No. I think, you know, a lot of, a lot of people, including myself to an extent. It's like we're allergic to discomfort and life is filled with uncomfortable experiences. And personally, I think life just, it flows better. We get more fulfilled if we embrace uncomfortable experiences. So escaping into a reality, I think that could quickly become a form of addiction. I mean, people become addicted.

[Tim Pool]

That's the thing. The problem then isn't the medium, it's the addiction. Yes, I don't drink. I might have a glass of wine once per year. You know, the holidays are coming up. I'm not opposed to drinking, I just don't enjoy it. But I have some. The problem isn't having a drink. The problem is drinking all day every day and, and just. And, and you know, you could be addicted to things like eating spaghetti and you'll get malnourished.

[JP Sears]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I saw one story like 10 years ago where a guy, all he did was eat sushi and then he died from mercury poisoning. It's like all good things, you know what I mean? Like, you got to slow down there.

[JP Sears]

I think for myself, I know I have a very addictive personality and that's got a positive side, like, like good work ethic. But also like just knowing myself, it's like I wouldn't want the temptation.

[Tim Pool]

But it's a video game. That, that's the point.

[JP Sears]

Like, I don't play video games either. For the same reason.

[Tim Pool]

I, I don't really play all that often as much as I used to. Today I was Cody Dennison and I was driving the Tim Cast truck and race car and I was pit maneuvering everybody and just knocking them out. And it was funny, cuz Cody knows all these guys and you see their name as I destroy their car in his image.

[Brett Dasovic]

And by the way, yeah, that guy deserved it.

[JP Sears]

If any of the other racers are watching this, Cody said he hates you all. He said you can't drive for crap. You can't knock him out on the racetrack.

[Brett Dasovic]

He's looking at you, Frankie Muniz.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we're gonna go to your rants and chats. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone. You know, call up grandma the holidays are coming up. And after you say Happy Thanksgiving, say, and by the way, go watch Tim cast irl. That's right. Before we do though, we got a great sponsor. It is backyard butchers. Go to backyard butchers.com use promo code. Tim. This Thanksgiving, it's all about family, American tradition and great food. And sergeant want to pull this up. And if there's one thing we all agree on, Big ag shouldn't sit at your holiday table. That's right. Big Ag, like big Pharma, has tried to infiltrate the food system with genetically modified food and hormones that affect your family's health and our children's future. That's what backyard butchers are stepping in early this season to make sure American families can feed their loved ones the way tradition intended. Does Thanksgiving say no to feedlot mystery meat? No to Big Ag chemicals and hormones. Buy from backyard butchers real ranch raised beef and real American families. From real American families who still believe in doing things right. It's beef that's hormone free, grass fed, pasture raised, handled with pride, not genetically modified. Because American tradition deserves better than Big Ag meat. And yes, your grandmother would approve. She believed in food that had integrity and meat that came from ranchers and not conglomerates. So make grandma proud this Thanksgiving and kick big Ag out of the kitchen by getting meat raised right from backyard butchers. Right now, backyard butchers are offering up to 30% off plus a free turkey or ham with your purchase. That's 30% off and your Thanksgiving turkey or ham, it's on them. [e-mail], use promo code. Tim, I promise it will be a feast your family will remember. American tradition, American meat. Backyard butcher Shout out. Thanks for sponsoring the show, guys. And me. I'm. I'm thinking about getting a ribeye this. This Thanksgiving season. I am not a fan of turkey.

[Cody Dennison]

No, neither, neither.

[Tim Pool]

Ribeye it is. Maybe, maybe some. Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Because the sandwiches the next day I.

[Brett Dasovic]

Eat it at Thanksgiving. That's like the only time of the year I have.

[Tim Pool]

I am not even a fan of the sandwiches.

[Phil Labonte]

No, I like.

[Tim Pool]

Well, to be fair, oven gold turkey boar's head with some cheddar cheese on an onion roll cannot be beat. It's nice, but let's grab your chats and rants. Kren says, Phil, My daughter turned 12 today and is a huge all that remains fan. Can she get a happy birthday?

[Phil Labonte]

Happy birthday.

[Tim Pool]

She got anti fragile on vinyl and lost her mind.

[Phil Labonte]

That's awesome. What's her name? I wish that you put her name so I could Wish her a happy birthday.

[Tim Pool]

Her name is Phil. Ina. I'm kidding.

[Phil Labonte]

Happy birthday to you.

[Tim Pool]

Cupcake says thank you JP for coming to Spokane. Hope to see you again soon. Seeing Scott Pressler tonight fighting to secure WA state elections. Keep it the good fight, everybody. Right.

[JP Sears]

Thank you.

[Tim Pool]

Black Nexus says Republicans wouldn't even censure someone that colluded with Epstein to launch a fake impeachment against Trump. Ilhan Omar isn't deported. They won't do anything to Hillary. We wasted our votes. Well, I don't know that you wasted your vote so much that you didn't have anything else to vote for, so.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, and there was more stuff to it than just those things. Right? You didn't just vote for that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All right. James Smith Politics says Cody's origins online was talking about his horrible experience working at GameStop.

[Cody Dennison]

It is, yeah. Ah, it was very random. I just, I was like, I'm Gonna put up YouTube videos. And I put out a video talking about GameStop. I saw this guy, he had a hit a video out and he's like, I worked at GameStop and he, I watched it and he worked there for like a month or two. And I was like, well damn, I worked there 11 years.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Cody Dennison]

And my, my manager used to bring like, you know, escorts to the back of the store.

[Phil Labonte]

He was, if you're, listen, if you're bringing. Were you complaining about the store? They're not escorts.

[Cody Dennison]

I was, you know, I complained to our regional but he was like, he was like a 500 pound guy. He was like a big dude and he was like.

[Tim Pool]

And he was just a 500 pound guy was bringing escorts in.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah. Into the back room at games stuff. And he would do the craziest things. You, I mean it was all like a movie. He, he like dropped his E brake and put his car in the river to get the insurance off of it one time. The dude was a wild guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Anyways, he's living life on 10.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah. So I put, I put a video out talking about that kind of stuff and yeah, I've been doing YouTube ever since.

[Tim Pool]

Bat who Laughs As Stacy Plasket received maximum political donations from Jeffrey Epstein. Business Insider wrote an article on it back in 2023. That's what I'm saying. My opinion is that she was working for Epstein. He paid the way she did what she was told. Data says. And to what you said about The X purchase, Mr. Timcast, remember Mr. Musk put a $1 million award for anyone to give tip on the programmer responsible on the problems Inside the code. Hmm, interesting. David Flores says DOJ just charged a Democrat from Florida with stealing $5 million FEMA funds to fund her Democrat campaign, no less, and get a seat in Congress. That's the name of the game, isn't it? Let's see. Roflo says, Tim, since you seem to like it as much as I do, if you don't know. A new Stargate series has been announced. Not many details yet, but it's happening.

[Brett Dasovic]

I saw that today.

[Tim Pool]

Stargate fans. You think you're real Stargate fans. It's embarrassing. I'm just gonna point out that I received a text from the Coronomic letting me know they were relaunching Stargate. So I'm just kidding, by the way, but shout out to Corin. We had him on the show and we had one of the best. The best bits we've ever done with Cast Castle, which was. We filmed the skit where Ian was convinced Stargate is real. And when Corrin came on the show, he was just like, this guy's crazy. I'm an actor. It's not real. And. But Ian kept being like, I don't know, man.

[Phil Labonte]

We go through the Stargate, man, and.

[Tim Pool]

He'S like, there's no Stargate. It was a prop. And then by the end of the bit, we're like, hey, man, it was really great to have you on the show. Come back anytime. And he's like, all good, well, I'll see you guys later. And he walks out the door, and then you see him looking towards the camera, and then he goes to his watch and he goes, we're good. Ian thinks it's fake now. And then you see the light from the Stargate open up and then he walks through.

[Brett Dasovic]

Those are early days.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that was like, three years ago. That was fun. The Stargate was real. Yeah. And then we had Marjorie. We played Magic the Gathering with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Those were fun days. Those were fun days.

[Brett Dasovic]

I have watched some Stargate. I'll never. I'll never give in to Star Trek, but I did find a lot of SG1 compelling Stargate.

[Tim Pool]

SG1 is amazing. Just an absolutely incredible show. It's. It's very much one of these shows where they explore the philosophical consequences of technology and certain decisions. One episode, for instance, there's a planet where, for those who know the premise of the show, there's a gate. They put in random coordinates and then it brings them to another gate, another planet or something. They go to one where the probe sees nothing. But then as it Moves forward. All of a sudden it's in like a normal looking little town. And when they go there, there's like, oh, there's only a thousand people who live here. And then they watch somebody just zonk out and then just walk out to their death into the. There's basically a force field keeping air. It's safe to breathe and outside it's like you'll die from a. From a. Some kind of environmental disaster.

[Cody Dennison]

The.

[Tim Pool]

Anyway, it's a 20 year old show. So here's the. Here's the show's premise. They find out that there is a central AI that is. Is wirelessly controlling people to commit suicide. Because as the power depletes this, the. The force field shrinks and they can't sustain the population levels. Then they erase everyone's memory of that person having existed. So they're like, it's. We've always been a thousand people. And then they go in the logs and it turns out it used to be millions. But as the power is breaking down and the field is shrinking, it's just deleting people. Great show.

[JP Sears]

I'm glad it wasn't Covid killing them. I was worried about that.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe that'll be.

[JP Sears]

It's. We're in the middle of a pandemic, people, right now. Please get serious about this.

[Phil Labonte]

Six feet apart.

[Tim Pool]

All right, what do you got here? Bueno. Malio says the Simpsons episode about big squashing changing the future would have been inspired by A sound of thunder by Ray Bradbury. The. The episode where Homer makes a time travel toaster and then he goes back in time and then he kills the bug, goes, oops. And then finally he snaps. Just starts smashing everything and destroying it. And then he finally makes it back to a future where everything seems normal, but they're all eating with their super long lizard tongues or frog tongues or whatever. Yeah, he comes back to the future and everything seems. Or no, the one of the futures he goes to, he's like, tell me Marge, is. Is. Do we have this? Do we have that? She's like, yes, yes, it's fine. And he goes, oh great. Now pass me a donut. She goes, what's a donut? He goes, he runs back downstairs, hits the toaster, and then she looks at the window and donuts are falling from the sky. And she goes, oh, it's raining again. The early Simpsons were the best. What's a donut? And they. They basically tons of the like the way everybody talks is based on the Simpsons. People don't know this. Meh. Right. When people go, man, that's Simpsons. They made that up. They made up the.

[Cody Dennison]

The.

[Tim Pool]

The grunt. Meh. That's wild. And. And yoink was made up. There's a whole bunch of other things. Quiet part loud is it was made up by the Simpsons.

[Brett Dasovic]

There was like a really interesting tweet I just pulled it up from like, I think it was like two weeks ago where a guy says the Simpsons is the ultimate boomer program because it tries to freeze time around their lives with increasingly absurd results. Marge is supposed to be 34, but she was 34 in 1989, meaning that she was in 1959. So she is 1955. So she's canonically 70 in the show. And Maggie is around 36. Skinner is a middle aged man with the still living mother and apparently he served in Vietnam. Yeah, like none of this works but for its generation that still don't see themselves as old.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it's interesting. Fairly odd. Parents solved this problem, you know? You know how, how they solved it? There's an episode where, where it's revealed Timmy Turner made a wish to be 10 years old forever and it's been 50 years and no one's aged and the world just stays the same because it shows been on the air for like 20 years or whatever that right.

[Brett Dasovic]

Now bonus for that one now I think.

[Tim Pool]

What? What is it? They added a young black girl and now, now Timmy and this young black girl have to share the. The fairies.

[Brett Dasovic]

Is that what. Where is it? Where is it?

[Tim Pool]

On Nickelodeon or something.

[Brett Dasovic]

Nickelodeon?

[Narrator/Ad Voice]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Mason says Massey is what I want every congressman to be like. Like when this war is. When this war, the Democrats is over. Indeed.

[JP Sears]

Do you hear that, Phil?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, look, I'm. I'm a Thomas Massey fan.

[JP Sears]

Well, you're a bigger McConnell fan from what I understand.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Effort button says Nick has some decent takes. This ain't one of them. And is the core. You really shouldn't estimate how stupid his viewers are. They know nothing and demand and embrace power. Sound familiar? I'm gonna put it like this. The easiest thing for a politician to do to gain power is to say it's not your fault someone else did something bad to you. And the problem for the left is that they said white people bad because they wanted to create a villain to rally these other demographics around. For Nick, he utilized a very similar world political point. That's why I'm not a fan of calling it necessarily woke to say this. This accuse someone of wronging you, demagogue it's, it's been done by every world leader all the time. They accused Trump of doing it. And Trump's not a leftist. Nick is basically saying to the young white men, the left is doing this and, or Israel and the special interests, it's not your fault. We have to take the power back from them. And so then you'll get a large base to rally around it. Nobody wants to say it's my fault, but I will tell you this. If every problem you experience you blame yourself for, you will be much more successful than those who blame others.

[Brett Dasovic]

I literally just did a video on this. Like I was, I did a video about Lucy Liu saying like, parts of her. If you don't know who Lucy Liu was, she was in Kill Bill, she was in the Charlie's Angels movies. And she did a, like, she was talking about how like, her be like her race played a role in her career, like stalling out and like, first of all, you've had a charmed career over like three decades and most actors would kill to have the career that you've had. But if you, if you let other people, if you let people that you believe wronged you because of your race, if you give them that power, you're automatically kind of acquiescing to their worldview, right? Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But taking ownership of what happens to you, both good and bad, can only benefit you in the long run because it keeps you from surrendering that power to other people.

[Phil Labonte]

Jocko Willink wrote a book called Extreme Ownership.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's basically.

[Tim Pool]

So my lesson from my dad was when I was a freshman in high school, which was only about two months, mind you, you, I was walking to school and they. Part of the reason I hated high school is they. We went from 7:30am to 2:30pm class. And then the high school was like, I got an idea. Let's have the freshman come at 11am and leave at 5:45pm and it was like a hormonal shock to everybody. Like, you don't wake up that early. We're sitting around, there's nothing but daytime TV on. We have no idea what's going on. But anyway, so I'm walking to school and it's like 10:30 and a train comes. So I sit down and wait and the train keeps going by and the train stops. And I'm sitting there for like a half an hour and I'm like, oh, there's a train. And then finally the train clears. I get to school and they're like, you're late. That's a detention. And I had to get it signed by my parents. And I told my dad, I was like, the train came. It's not my fault. And he goes, you know, the train tracks are there. You should have left early. And that's a great lesson because it's true.

[Cody Dennison]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

If, if now I didn't care for school, so I was like, I don't care. I didn't go to detention. So then they gave me a Saturday. So they gave me a Saturday detention. I didn't go to that either. And then I dropped out. So anyway, but if you have an obligation and then you get into traffic and go, it's not my fault there was traffic. You will be less successful than the guy who says, I better account for the traffic. So I'm not late.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, I feel like that's part of like one of the issues with, with like podcasting and stuff. Like they need stuff to talk about. And like you said, Jocko will because he's. He's got the radical ownership taken. So somebody else has to go somewhere else and talk about something else and they have to go to blaming other people for what they think the problem is. But if you're talking internally, the best thing you can do for yourself is to hold yourself radically responsible for all of your actions. Maybe it isn't your fault sometimes, but you're going to be much, much better off if you take responsibility for it.

[Tim Pool]

The idea is this. Obviously it's not my fault a train shut up unexpectedly and then stopped. We didn't know it was going to happen. But if we approach all of these circumstances from how do I mitigate a potential problem? Then you will be better off being.

[Brett Dasovic]

On time is being 15 minutes early.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. Here we go. We got edgy gay retard who says I had someone use the illegals actually commit less crimes than the average American line on me today. I actually agree with this, the sentiment. I also think the value of a group of people is linked to how much crime they commit.

[Brett Dasovic]

I think somebody just logged into my alt account.

[Tim Pool]

It Jason Dixon says Tim shout out the discord and the pre show third chair with Slick and Olivia. Question for Tim. Who is your favorite cast member and why is it Serge? Because he presses the buttons.

[Brett Dasovic]

I like that Olivia. She sounds great.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. The the one free man says welfare should never be incentivized. Agreed. And the Trump admin says they're going to overhaul Snap. They're going to make everyone have to reapply we'll see. Which is, wow.

[Brett Dasovic]

Government workers are just turning gray right now.

[Cody Dennison]

Well, apparently there was a bunch of dead people that were on it as well.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. David Mullen, Nerolo. Tim, this is for you. Amazon prime will be producing a brand new Stargate series with the original producers within the same universe as the original series, which means cameos from classic characters. I am down for it. What a great show. One of the funnier elements of the show is that life forms can, like, ascend. Like they become beings of pure energy and go to a higher plane or something. It's a great show. I love it. Let's go also start, start the Next Generation. Star Trek never got its proper sequel, so I'm a bit bummed. When they, when they did Picard, it was kind of supposed to be like, what's after Next Generation? And it just turned into fan service. And then they went back in time and Trump was. Trump's presidency led to a dictatorship and it's just like, okay, I'm not going to watch this.

[Brett Dasovic]

There's a. There are rumors going around that Kurtzman's going to be out and that they're going to be taking Star Trek a different direction now that David Ellison is charge over there.

[Tim Pool]

I think what we need to do is just lead a peaceful revolt to Disney and demand that they burn all new Star wars, like just all the data files and computers. We will dance around the fire of the sequel movies and all the stupid shows they've done. I suppose Andor and Rogue One can stay, but then we'll say we'll act like none of these things ever happened and do a new sequel to Return of the Jedi, which makes more sense and is more interesting. Yes.

[Brett Dasovic]

So, yeah, you can make it on AI on our platform app.

[Tim Pool]

I will. And what's going to happen is when Disney launches their Creators Corner, which they've talked about doing now. You are sending me that article. It's funny. We were talking about this with Zachary Levi, and then Brett sends me an article where Disney is actually planning a couple days later. Yep, they're planning an AI function. We predicted this. They're playing an AI function on Disney plus where you can make whatever you want with their characters.

[Brett Dasovic]

They're ahead of schedule from what you predicted, too. That's the crazy part.

[Cody Dennison]

Part.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, maybe. What did I say, like a year or two?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, two years.

[Tim Pool]

Two years. I think two years is still a safe bet. But maybe I'm crazy. I mean, this Sora 2 stuff is getting nuts.

[Brett Dasovic]

All these companies are investing in AI, I'm going to.

[Tim Pool]

You know. You know what I'm going to do? I am going to have. I think what will happen is you'll create an account on Disney and you'll have followers, because this is what Sora is already doing. I predicted this. Sora, when you sign up for ChatGPT's fake video thing, you get an at handle and people follow the AI videos you make. It's gonna be like, I'm gonna go on Disney and I'm gonna say, okay, we are going to fix Revenge of the Sith. First of all, we're deleting Phantom Menace. Gone. We're starting with Clone Wars. We're putting a movie in between, which is the actual Clone Wars. Then we're gonna do Revenge of the Sith. And I'm so. I'm gonna do that, but I'm also gonna have short films that fix a whole bunch of movies. There's going to be. The Empire did nothing wrong. Also, Sauron is the good guy. Sauron is the guy. It's all propaganda. Sauron is the good guy. You know why? Why the. So see, what's happening is Middle Earth is chaos. Warring tribes and factions, petty squabbling. The dwarves, what are they doing? Mining to their deaths, unleashing giant monsters. Sauron's like, okay, we need to order. And so what he decides is he gets a bunch of elves. He trains them. Them so they understand we are going to create a functional system and stop having this bickering. What do they do? What do the elves do? They write this propaganda, and they write the orcs are, you know, Uruk Hai are all monsters, of course. Just like how they depict Donald Trump as a white supremacist when we all know that's not true. My joke is it would be fun to make alternate propaganda versions of how Sauron was the good guy and how the Empire were good. Just fix all these things, you know?

[Phil Labonte]

I like it.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna have a good time doing it. All right, let's grab some more super chats. The redneck Gibbster says Hillary's offspring is aesthetically displeasing. That a. What is a blue jay from the courts? I don't know what that means. I don't. I don't know what that sentence is. Anyway, the first part I understood, David Bricken says Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2017. These. There's photos of her at the wedding. That proves it.

[JP Sears]

It does. That connects everything right there.

[Cody Dennison]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Even the Mandela effect.

[JP Sears]

Yeah. Case closed. I think we've solved it.

[Tim Pool]

Jakal says. Jackal Br. Interesting. I do not have my local rep's personal phone number to text when I want to collude. The funny thing is like I tried to make a joke that's not normal to be able to do that. But I actually personally know Riley voted for him. He's a good dude. He's doing a great job.

[JP Sears]

I do have my personal reps phone number too.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[JP Sears]

So there's that.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I guess there's a big club and we're in it.

[Brett Dasovic]

Just you guys.

[Phil Labonte]

You two are in it.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's go. Random username says, FYI. YouTube won't let me comment on your videos again. This was a thing during Biden. Stopped being a thing since Trump and now has started again. That proves it. I don't know what it proves, but something's getting proved. Proven. All right, what do we have here? Mr. Gurr says if Kamala had won, you'd know this is what you want. What? Stargate?

[Phil Labonte]

What did he say?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. All right, everybody, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know, even grandma, your cousins, your great cousins, second cousins, and third. Whoever you can. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Castle. The Rumble uncensored portion of the show is coming up right about now, so go to rumble.com timcast IRL. You don't want to miss it. It's going to be fun. We've got a. I got a funny cameo in a video that you'll want to see and I'll show you guys. Jp, do you want to shout anything out?

[JP Sears]

Yeah. If you want to follow me, you can find me on YouTube and rumble username is awaken with jp and if you find me offensive, then you'll want to avoid those places.

[Cody Dennison]

You can find me at Camelot331 on YouTube. Camelcast off on X. Been active there a lot lately, so.

[Phil Labonte]

So go.

[Cody Dennison]

Give me some love. And you can also sometimes see me in a race car throughout the year.

[Brett Dasovic]

So guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and X. Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. You should also check out Pop Culture Crisis. We are live Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time, which is noon Pacific. I have also been putting out an additional full length episode every weekend on our audio platforms. I stitched together a bunch of extra topics that I cover throughout the week that we do not get to on pcc. So I'd love you to check that one. Out as well. Thank you guys.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check out a great new merch drop we just did in conjunction with puck [e-mail] that's P U C K H C-K-Y.com. it's got some great hockey jerseys, basketball jerseys, some really cool stuff. So go check that out. You can check out the band's music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is four for crime.

[Tim Pool]

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