
Government SHUTDOWN IMMINENT, Democrats Vow To BLOCK Trump CR w/The Native Patriot
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Tim Pool
The government shutdown is imminent. Chuck Schumer says Democrats are going to block Donald Trump's continuing resolution. It will not pass the Senate. They need, like, 60 votes anyway to get past the filibuster. So it was kind of a long shot as it was. Now, Thomas Massie had been saying that this was rigged from the get go. They'd already cut a deal, but it looks like maybe not, unless this is all part of the game. But, my friends, the government will be shutting down. And jokes on Democrats. Uh, Trump's been trying to shut the government down the whole time he's been president, I guess, just not in this way. So it'll be interesting to see what exactly goes down with this shutdown. Trump's already fired a ton of people, so, you know, Democrats are just doing the rest of everyone's paychecks in. We'll see what happens. We got a couple other stories. The big news coming out of West Virginia, of course, was that the state legislature has passed a ban on artificial food dyes. This is maha. Now, apparently, RFK Jr. Is giving an ultimatum to all these big producers. They got to make this change and get this garbage out of the foods. Several other states are making this change as well. However, Big Soda is apparently lobbying West Virginia to prevent this from happening. So, ladies and gentlemen, this is a massive battle before us, which could change the course of history. We're going to change how we consume food in this country. So it's big news. We'll talk about that then. We got yo. A reporter from Infowars not only got murdered over the weekend. Sad story. But following this, two swattings. Now, one of the reporters was forced to walk backwards out of his house. It looks like Infowars, of course, is being targeted. And then there's a bunch of other stuff. Do you guys know that Disney canceled the red carpet for Snow White? It's bad. They released a new snippet from the film and. Oh, boy. Yeah, basically, Snow White's character is like, the poor people need things. And the evil queen is like, they don't need luxuries. And I'm like, oh, no, they're. They're actually gonna do it. They're. They're going far left on this whole thing. This movie is going to bomb, and they know it. So Disney has pulled the red carpet. That's crazy. Cast brew.com for all of our delicious coffee. We got all the good stuff except Ian's graphene dream. It sold out. Appalachian Nights is available and as is rise with Roberto Jr. And don't forget, we got Misty Mountains and focus with Mr. Bocus. We're also going to have an uncensored members only show at 10pm tonight@rumble.com timcast irl. So make sure you become a premium member of Rumble if you want to watch that. Plus our Green Room show. Today's episode was good fun. Yesterday's was particularly crazy, which is up now. I can't really tell you what was in it. It's uncensored. It is. It is. Not for the faint of heart or for the overly censorious social media platforms, but you can go to rumble.com timcast IRL and check that out at the our Green Room playlist. Don't forget to smite. Don't forget to smash. What was I gonna say?
Phil Labonte
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Tim Pool
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Maurice the Native Patriot
Hey, I'm Maurice the Native Patriot first and foremost. I am a husband and father. Shout out to my wife, lady Patriot. But I'm the co creator of the Patriots Prayer Network, a volunteer group of podcasters around the country just trying to spread the good word. All working 9 to 5 jobs, but decided to speak up. I'm an associate board member for naga, the Native Americans Guardians association, and an ambassador for a new company. Our new 501C3. Just started up, Hetero Awesomeness Incorporated.
Tim Pool
Right on. And you're wearing. You're wearing a Make America Great Again headdress.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yes. Yeah, customized it myself. But it's. It's part. I'm paying homage to my Native American history or my Native American ancestry. And also moving forward and showing that, hey, Native American history is really cool and Native American history is American history.
Tim Pool
Right on.
Ian Crossland
Nice.
Tim Pool
Cool, man. Well, thanks for hanging out. Ian's here.
Ian Crossland
Good to be here. Ian Crossland in the house. Participant in the global spiritual revolution that's been happening since especially the Internet video got invented and developed. So happy to be here. Let's push this thing forward.
Tim Pool
Hello, everybody.
Phil Labonte
My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's go.
Tim Pool
Here's the big news, ladies and gentlemen, from the New York Post. Government shut down, likely after Schumer says Senate Democrats will block the GOP funding bill. And I'm of two minds here. I like the idea of the government shutting down, but I also do understand that Donald Trump is trying to get this budget passed so he can start going after his agenda, which we want to see happen, which largely includes dismantling government. So it's like short term gains versus long term losses, right? Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer announced Wednesday that most Democrats in the upper chamber will not support a House Republican passed bill to fund the federal government through the end of September, all but ensuring a partial shutdown beginning at 11:59pm Friday. Quote, Funding the government should be a bipartisan effort. But Republicans chose a partisan path, drafting their continuing resolution without any input, any input from congressional Democrats based on. Because of that, Republicans do not have the votes in the Senate to invoke cloture on the House CR. Our caucus is unified on a clean CR through April 11th. That will keep the government open and give Congress time to negotiate bipartisan legislation that can pass. So with the Republicans holding a 5347 advantage, they need at least 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. Looks like it's not going to happen. Not to mention Rand Paul says he ain't going to be voting for it, but I don't know, I like it when the government shuts down.
Phil Labonte
I guess the only concern I have is I don't want to see the Republicans get blamed for the shutdown considering they are. Most people know that Donald Trump is a Republican. They have a slim majority in both the House and the Senate and people don't have a deep understanding of how the sausage is made in D.C. so I feel like the Republicans are going to end up owning this shutdown. I think that it's, that's the intent of the Democrats as well. Like even like all of the stuff that's going on now is going to be funded in the cr. Right. Like there's no serious cuts yet. So the Democrats should ostensibly like that, but they, they're going to go ahead and say no, we're not going to vote for it. And the reason is because they want to go ahead and see the, the Republicans get smeared, in my opinion.
Ian Crossland
What's the longest we've had a shutdown? Oh, weeks, but no more than that.
Tim Pool
It was a long one, wasn't there? Let me, let me check. That's a good question, Ian.
Phil Labonte
I, when back in the 90s, my mother used to work for US Fish and Wildlife and she was out of work for, I want to say a couple weeks. I want to say it was 30.
Tim Pool
It was recent, was 35 days in 2018 and 2019 was the reason. That's what I was thinking about. Yeah, 35 days.
Ian Crossland
Is it paid? Do they pay? I mean, I imagine they get, they.
Phil Labonte
Don'T pay while the government's shut down, but they end up getting paid when.
Ian Crossland
They go back or they'll get paid back pay.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's usually, it's the stuff that you end up seeing is stuff like, oh, we're going to shut down the, the parks you can't go to, like Yosemite, you can't go to national parks because they send those people home. And because that's a low effort way to get political points, you know, serious things that say the DoD is doing or serious things the State Department's doing, they're going to keep doing it. That, you know, all of your, all of your, your, your foreign stuff when it comes to, you know, U.S. foreign policy and stuff, they're going to keep doing it all the, you know, it's not a, it's, it's just barely serious. When the government shuts down, most Americans don't notice the people in.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Go ahead this time. I think that the media is looking for a big win, or at least the Democrats are looking for a big win because so much has been happening over this past month that has been in favor of Donald Trump and the Republicans in general that this is finally their first big break where they can say, look at what Trump is doing. He's now shut down the government. Look at all these stories about all these park employees, you know, being out of work. And they'll, they'll play on that to, to get as much as they can against Donald Trump right now because obviously they, it sure seems like they've had a hard time showing that what he's doing is bad. And of course, we all know Orange man bad.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're totally right. I think that the effort by the left to see some kind of negative headline, any kind of negative news about Donald Trump or the Republicans is really, really important to Democrats right now because they are in such disarray and they have nothing that they can actually get behind. They don't have leadership. They're not sure what the party actually is anymore. And I've made this point a couple times on the show recently. Democrats have a serious civil war between the progressives and the, and the, you know, I guess your, your boilerplate liberals and they're not sure what they want to do. The progressives are the one with, ones with the energy and the boilerplate liberals are the ones that can actually get funding from the donors. So they don't know who's in charge. They don't know how they want to present themselves. You can't get a platform when you can't agree on what direction your party should take. So the Democrats are relying on the Republicans to mess up. That's. That's something that James Carville had said a couple months. A couple months.
Tim Pool
A couple of weeks. I don't know if I care. Right. Like. Like the fear is that Republicans are going to blame for the shutdown. I don't think so. Or I don't care if they do. In fact, go ahead, Democrats, please, for the love of, love of all that is holy, put the blame on the Republicans because it's going to expose how the Democrats insane ideology can't even overcome a government shutdown in terms of primary. Right. The Democrats could come out and give everybody a free Twinkie. And their ideology is so insane, people are not going to want to vote for them.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's.
Tim Pool
So if they blame the Republicans for this, fine. They're still going out and going on TV and saying men are women.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, that was, that was a little hubbub when it was Sarah McBride, I think is exactly.
Tim Pool
Did you guys see this, this story? Where is this? In Delaware?
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Tim Pool
So the chairman introduced the congressman, Sarah McBride, who is biologically male, as Mr. McBride. And then some other guy was like, how dare you?
Phil Labonte
I refuse. Have you no shame?
Ian Crossland
Have you no shame?
Phil Labonte
Have you no shame?
Tim Pool
And the other guy was like, I will not participate in this fantasy.
Phil Labonte
And so, yeah, I mean, he. And they shut down the hearing and so, like, adjourned.
Tim Pool
So I, you know, people are all. A lot of conservatives are bent out of shape over this, you know, transgender member of Congress, Sarah McBride. It's Federal Congress, right?
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah.
Tim Pool
McBride, Delaware. And I'm just like, why are y'all mad? We want the Democrats to stand on an 8020 issue on the wrong side. Yeah, they're going to lose.
Phil Labonte
I would like to see more Democrat trans Congress people. So that way the, you know, the American people can really understand that that is the platform the Democrats want to. Want to go.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Go with, you know, and see how fake the outrage is. Because you can, you can see clearly from the guy, grandstanding, say how, you know, how dare you address. It's great to see because a lot of people are kind of waking up and realizing, like, obviously it's a biological male. Obviously it is. But for some reason, we're still kind of playing this game as the adults, and they're supposed to be the representatives who represent their own constituents. But it suddenly has become all about them. And so they're just, they're furthering exposing themselves as to how selfish their party is. It's not, it's not about representing the other people. It is about, you have to address me in this certain way. Even in our Congress.
Phil Labonte
The rest of Congress should actually take a page out of McBride's own book. Because the way that McBride handles this, McBride doesn't get upset, doesn't get worked up, doesn't make a stink, lets people say Mr. McBride and doesn't make a big deal about it. Just like, okay, I'm here to do a job for the people of Delaware. That's not blah, blah, blah. And so McBride allow. He allows other people to make us think about it, which is exactly what happened. And that's actually, that's the right course of action. If the Democrats really wanted to, if they wanted to not have this be an issue, they could just say, all right, well, we're not going to make a stink about it. We'll let the Republicans look like the meanies because they're not using the preferred pronoun of this person. But they can't bring. They can't. I don't know if they can't moderate themselves or whatever, but that would be the actual smart play.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I would think that their entire ideology has been built behind having that virtue, signaling kind of support that you have. You have to constantly declare your loyalty to the narrative. And so I don't think that they can just turn that off because in order to move up in their social circles, you have to declare constantly on how virtuous you are.
Ian Crossland
I wonder.
Tim Pool
And one up each other.
Ian Crossland
I keep thinking about Gavin Newsom. Like, is he, I think, didn't he.
Tim Pool
Buy a statue of himself?
Ian Crossland
That is hilarious. I hope so. He looks.
Tim Pool
Yeah, you saw that story. Yeah, there's a story where he like, apparently paid money to a non profit to make a statue of himself. Anyway, what were you. He won't.
Ian Crossland
He doesn't seem like he's adhering to a narrative. Like he's kind of a rebel in the Democratic Party and now he's got his own show, which is a great movie. Interviewed Charlie Kirk.
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no. I wouldn't call him a rebel. Maybe more like a lizard person.
Ian Crossland
He's a lizard in the Democratic Party. Are you snapping turtle?
Phil Labonte
Are you saying that he, he is recently. Are you saying that that's the way that he's been. You think?
Ian Crossland
I don't know.
Tim Pool
He.
Ian Crossland
He had. Governing California is a tough job because it's a big place to govern. Like, Northern California is very different. You should probably have two governors, two states, except for the water rights. And then they'd.
Tim Pool
I agree. Northern California should be its own state.
Ian Crossland
Like, you need. You need someone to govern Northern California.
Tim Pool
Maybe.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, you could have maybe like a state governor that oversees transportation and electrics and water. But, like, those. Culturally, the north of California is very different than the South. Like, just trying to govern. San Francisco is insane with all that poop, and the south, all the desert and the entertainment industry, like, it's a whole other beast. And north has all that green, the trees, and the south is all that desert. So I think that he has done, you know, he hasn't been your average Democrat. I don't know why I just brought him up, because I watched his interview with Charlie Kirk, and I'm like, he's really trying to break that. That brainwashing mold. And he's like, what do I do, Charlie? Tell me, like, what should I do?
Tim Pool
He's not trying to break the brainwashing mold. He's trying to seize control of it again.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, he wants to be President 2028.
Phil Labonte
I think I agree with you.
Tim Pool
He needs the mind control, and he's realizing what's not working, and he's trying to reassert something to work.
Phil Labonte
I agree with you about, you know, about. Lately he's trying to remake, you know, his image and stuff, because I think that he's. He's really damaged after Covid and after a lot of the. The quote, unquote, woke policies that California's had. But I. I would say that, like, prior to maybe the past year, he was very much in lockstep with the average Democrat and very progressive Democrat.
Ian Crossland
I mean, he'd be a great guest, too. I know he's super busy and stuff, but, like, I wonder if he. As the walls started to fall around Kamala, if he just realized this imperial democratic organism is insane. If he just shocked him awake.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I think he's realizing that his support has to come from a different avenue because he saw exactly what happened and how Kamala spent over a billion dollars and still lost the election. And he's realizing that in order. If he does want to make a future presidential run, like, he's obviously not stupid. So he. He's kind of just realizing that, okay, in order to make plans for the future and be successful in it, he's going to have to step into this arena. And so he had that podcast with. With Charlie Kirk in trying to open that door and Then show that Democrats can be cool too, Right? They can. They can be part of that crowd and move on from the old legacy to change their image from what they have been to, to this, this new sphere of media.
Tim Pool
It didn't work, though. The whole narrative is, look at Gavin Newsom pretending to not be woke, right? So he was hoping the narrative was going to be, oh, wow, Gavin Newsom's moderate, but Hula believes that the progressives are attacking him because he attacked progressives because he agreed with Charlie Kirk. They're saying, I don't care. Whatever he said, he promoted Charlie Kirk. He's Persona non grata. And everybody on the right is like, yeah, we don't believe you, Gavin. Nice try. There is no future for this guy, in my opinion. I mean, obviously he may run for office, but he's not convincing regular people that he's not a psychopath. He's going to burn. He's going to burn Democrat bridges. At the same time, this dude is going to run in the Democrat primary in 28 and he's going to get 13%.
Phil Labonte
Do you think, you think it'll be that low? Huh?
Tim Pool
Well, I'm kind of being a dick when I say 13, but it's going to be low. And it's, it's going to be because he's, he's being attacked. He's going to be attacked from two fronts. The right is going to go after him and say, this guy's smarmy, and the left is going to say, this guy smarmy. This is the problem Democrats have had over the past decade. They know that if they go up against the progressive sect, they lose 10 points and maybe they can win 30% with the existing moderate Democrat base. But 30% doesn't get you over the line unless you've got like a four way race, which ain't happening anytime soon. So now Gavin Newsom is like, we've got to moderate. We need to pull the party closer to the center if we want to start attracting people. So what happens? Sits down with Charlie Kirk, plans his podcast. Everyone on the right immediate, immediately is like, nice try, Gavin. We know what you're doing. And then the left goes, I can't believe you would say those things about trans people. He's lost.
Ian Crossland
It was. There's a lack of fairness with men and women's sports, I think. I didn't see that part of the interview, but that's what I heard he said.
Maurice the Native Patriot
The most plain thing you could possibly say is it just acknowledge biological reality and say that it's not fair. And he's getting torched for it.
Ian Crossland
It was a great moment. He was like, Charlie, what do I do? How, what should I do? Like he was basically prostrating himself to Charlie Kirk, like, how can I win? And Charlie's like, you got to say that it's not cool to have men and women's sports. And then I guess he did and he was like, yeah, it's not fair. That's the point of the video where I hit the stop button.
Tim Pool
And now he's getting attacked by progressives. So he's going to end up with no one on the right supporting him. He's going to get very few moderate liberal types. Maybe he gets all of them again, 30%.
Ian Crossland
It's an inevitable shattering of the Democratic Party unless the money tries to hold it together.
Phil Labonte
That's like if they're.
Ian Crossland
The funding just is like, listen, we're not gonna let this thing break. We're just gonna keep pumping it up like foie gras and just disgusting tube feed. This thing that's like a baby duck that you tube feed by the way to get its liver all fatty before you eat it. It's pretty gross.
Tim Pool
Well, not baby, regular duck.
Ian Crossland
Regular duck. Foie gras.
Tim Pool
Or goose. Or goose.
Ian Crossland
Thank you.
Tim Pool
They got a big metal tube and they grab it by the throat and they jam it into its throat and they pump it full of corn and oil.
Ian Crossland
So that's what the liberal economic order has been doing to the United States and Democratic party for about 50 years.
Tim Pool
I agree with that.
Ian Crossland
So maybe they'll keep trying that. But I think like culturally it's destined for a shattering and like a regrouping.
Phil Labonte
So I think the money would go to people like Newsom. I think that Newsom is charismatic and has enough. Not that I in any way agree with his policies or anything, but I think that he's charismatic enough and good looking enough. Where the, you know, rank and file donor, the millionaires and billionaires that actually spend money on Democrat, Democrat races, I think that they would give him the money. I don't think the money will go to the progressives because the progressives want things like, you know, they want to tax billionaires out of existence and they will end up going after millionaires and they don't like rich people at all. They think that, that every billionaire is a policy error and they want to expropriate property and they want to have price controls and they want to have all kinds of control over your, your, your private life and personal Property and stuff. And I think that that's really unpopular with the people that have money because they, you know, they don't want to have that. They don't want government to have that kind of control over their lives. So I don't think the Democrats are going to have, have the, the, the progressives leading. At the end of the day, I think it's going to be the regular, indeed, liberals.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this story from the Daily Ma from the Daily Mail. Yo, check this out. Leaked audio of DEI activist sharing air traffic controller exam answers with minority candidates. This is wild. And they really bury the lead. So I want to give a heartfelt do better. Daily Mail. They go on to say in audio footage. And you scroll down, Shelton Snow, the frontline manager for the National Black Coalition of Federal Aviation Employees, can be heard promising advance access to test answers to minority prospects vying for, for an air traffic control job in 2014. Holy crap. The funny thing is they call him an, an activist, a top activist. Like, Heavens me, Daily Mail. Can you at least, like, actually tell people in the lead he's the frontline manager for the National Black Coalition of Federal Aviation Employees? Because that makes it a bit more serious than some random guy in the street being like, let me get you some answers. When it turns out he's part of an organization trying to advance this specifically. And then you've got leaked audio where he's basically helping people cheat. They say the question then becomes, how many people are air traffic controllers who don't actually know how to do it, but were given advanced answers by people like this? Why?
Phil Labonte
Why do they need to cheat and have preferential hiring? Like, if you've got preferential hiring, why do you need to cheat as well?
Tim Pool
I think you're already cheating. It's the other way around. What do you mean that despite the fact that these people are being given preferential treatment, they're still not getting in, Right?
Maurice the Native Patriot
Well, that's, that's part of the whole merit problem. When you're just seeking out colored people in order to hire, get, you know, fill these jobs, and you're not looking at merit, you're gonna have to help them out in some way in order to get them there.
Tim Pool
You can't say that anymore. It's people of color. Oh, I know there's a distinction. For some reason I haven't figured out how or why.
Phil Labonte
I don't believe. I don't believe there's a distinction anymore.
Tim Pool
But it's okay because you're Native American, so you can't be racist.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, See your repeat.
Ian Crossland
There we go. I was thinking about that. I was like, is my skin dark enough? Like, all these people, like, anyone going through this, like, color issue, like a woman of color, like, it's just not colorful enough. I'm like, what is this grotesque mind racism virus?
Phil Labonte
I mean, I'm so weird. I'm quite pasty myself. But you actually have a nice pink hue.
Ian Crossland
Thanks, sir. That's probably blood flow from all the caffeine I've been drinking maybe.
Tim Pool
Actually, caffeine constricts the blood vessels, right?
Ian Crossland
Is it like squeeze it and then make it shoot faster?
Tim Pool
No, it's how it feels right now. So you would be less pink.
Ian Crossland
Maybe it's just the red jacket and the yellow. What were you saying?
Phil Labonte
Could be the hair.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, yeah.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I feel like the DEI hire of this podcast right now, just surrounded by white people.
Tim Pool
Well, I'm actually mixed, so.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Oh, yeah, I guess that's true.
Tim Pool
That's right. Yeah.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Well, I'm half white as well, so I. Oh, so you're.
Tim Pool
You're only half minority. Yep. That means that past comment might. Might get you in half trouble.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I'll get half cat, half canceled.
Tim Pool
Only one side of your family, I guess. I mean, so somebody super chatted. Free men die. Freeze. As you think airlines bad. Wait till see the medical field. What do you say? Go in for a tonsil removal and come out as Caitlyn Jenner? I mean, yeah, the reality is the ultra wealthy liberal types who push these things don't have these problems. So I always just tell people, look, just go to Loudoun County. I guarantee you Loudoun county ain't gonna have this problem. So for instance, a lot of people talk about. I'll keep it vague as I can to protect people's privacy, but how? Like the doctors are gonna say, your child needs to be prescribed this medicine. I say so. Or else you go to Loudoun county and they're like, literally, we don't care. You'll get the best treatment by the best doctors and you pay for it. You go to some of the poorer areas and it's all heavy DEI stuff and forced medication stuff. You go to the rich areas, ain't nobody messing around. Because as much as wealthy white liberals push these ideas and dei, they don't want it to affect them. So you go to Loudoun county, wealthiest county in the country, and what do you find? Everything is free market. Yeah, you can go to private practice, you can get prescribed medications. Yo, the funny thing is, without again, getting too specific, Loudoun county is the place where you go to a doctor and say, I feel like I need this medication. And they'll say, sure, here's how much it costs to come and visit. And if they, it's not like they're going to give you any random drug. Don't get me wrong. I'm saying, like, there was a period where a lot of people wanted to get prescribed certain medications, and doctors were like, we won't prescribe this for you despite it potentially treating whatever you're, you're, you're, you're feeling Now. Loudoun county is the place where you're like, heard on the Internet, this thing, treats this thing. They're like, here you go. Pay your bill and have a nice day.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. They called my hometown Pharmaceutical Falls. But it wasn't because of the doctors. It was just because of all the high school kids. Pharmacy. Yeah, I, I mean, you're, you're rich. You get meritocracy. Although this is the thing about free market.
Phil Labonte
I think it's a meritocracy, though.
Ian Crossland
What's that?
Phil Labonte
It's not meritocracy.
Ian Crossland
Well, like, if you can afford it, you just get the best.
Tim Pool
You get the free market.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
You look for the best of the best and that's who goes there, because that's where the money is and the resources are. But free market works to a point. It's kind of like communism. Like, real free market has never been tried because as soon as it, it can't work in mass.
Tim Pool
Not true.
Ian Crossland
It works in small scales, but as soon as you. It grows, you get monopolies.
Tim Pool
And then I, I agree that it works in small scales, but real free markets have existed.
Ian Crossland
I don't know about that.
Tim Pool
They can function. So I agree with you largely. Communism works with like 10 people, where. It's like 10 people on a farm and there's no real, like, you can leave whenever you want. No one can force you to eat gruel or whatever. So 10 people on a farm being like, hey, man, I grew a watermelon. Would you like to share it with me?
Ian Crossland
Sure.
Tim Pool
I also did the dishes. Easy. Communism in a large sense, it's like, why aren't you growing watermelon? I don't want to bang. That's communism. Free markets can grow a little bit bigger until they start getting regulated and getting monopolistic. But real free markets have been tried and they do function. The only problem is you get, like, people saying heroin to kids and then libertarians clap for it.
Phil Labonte
Idiots.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah, I mean, you can see the free markets play out in, in places like Loudoun county where there's the actual good doctors who the rich people seek out are. Oh, but are kind of all congregate. Right, right. But one area.
Tim Pool
But it's not a. Like Loudoun County. I wouldn't, I wouldn't call anywhere in America a free market. So there's like some. There's more free market than others. My point was, in Loudoun county, you can get what you got to get. The doctors are going to be there and they're going to say, if you can pay for it, it's fine and no one's going to bother or interfere. You go to the poor areas and they're like, government mandates and government grants require us to do this, so do it or else.
Phil Labonte
And I mean, it would be nice to see that kind of be everywhere in the US But I do feel like the people that are, you know, we keep picking on Loudoun county, but the people in Loudoun county, they're very quick to be like, well, it's okay for us. But you. The poor people, they can't make those, those kind of decisions for themselves because they're unsophisticated. They're, you know, the reason they're poor is because they're unintelligent, they're bad people, etc. Whatever. And I think that that's. That kind of, that attitude is something that a lot of poor, a lot of wealthy people have.
Ian Crossland
How does that lead to dei? I must be missing a gap in something like, so the rich people are like, we want the best for ourselves. I don't care what color you are. Come in, you're the best doctor. You're the one. But then they're like, but everyone else that can't afford you, we got to make sure that they have a black.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Doctor or it doesn't know.
Phil Labonte
It's. Everyone has to have the opportunity to be a doctor, regardless of color or, you know, background or identity or whatever. But the problem is, just because they need 50 doctors and they want to have X amount that are, you know, of a particular race doesn't mean that there are enough qualified doctors of that race to fill the desired slots. So what ends up happening is an.
Ian Crossland
Official practice at companies that we have to quota certain races.
Phil Labonte
Yes.
Ian Crossland
That should be illegal.
Tim Pool
Is illegal.
Ian Crossland
Okay, then it should be eradicated from business in the United States. That it's not.
Tim Pool
Vote Donald Trump. Oh, wait, you did.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, I did.
Maurice the Native Patriot
But in the process of it right now. Right. That's what's going on but, but your confusion, I don't think it plays out exactly like that. I think it, it plays out more so that the, the liberals and the, the rich people who advocate for these policies advocate it for somewhere else. It's kind of like the way that they see the border. You know, they should, they should have an open border, but they don't want to see illegals in their backyard. They actually want to have them taken care of and say that they're able to, you know, vote for these policies and they're so virtuous in that way. And that's kind of how DEI has worked throughout this entire country is, is that you can say that you support these policies because it's a good thing and you're helping the brown and black people. But in all reality, it's always away from the, from the rich people. It's always kind of put into place in practice in poorer areas first.
Tim Pool
Does it help minorities when planes crash? I don't think so. I think they're on those planes too.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah, I took a plane here and.
Tim Pool
Planes be crashing a lot.
Ian Crossland
I don't know that you guys brought that up a couple of nights ago on the show. It might just be more that, more cameras on it.
Tim Pool
Now we, in terms of these, these crashes that are much more serious, it seems like there's a higher concentration at the beginning of this year than another.
Ian Crossland
The Boeing story from last year with some whistleblower came out was like, by the way, for the last 15 years they've been cutting corners. The planes are not coming out high quality. And then he got assassin. Then he got killed. He died. He was killed like a week, couple weeks before he was going to testify before Congress about it or something.
Maurice the Native Patriot
The Boeing whistleblower, that kind of went quiet, didn't it?
Ian Crossland
Wow. And that's Boeing, of course, you see little planes. I don't know. So what's the plane crash numbers? Have they gone up lately? Have you been following, you guys been following the numbers of plane crashes?
Tim Pool
It seems that serious, fatal accidents are slightly higher than you normally get.
Ian Crossland
Oh, and then Ben Davidson was saying maybe it's solar activity.
Tim Pool
Well, I asked him that and he said maybe that's cool because I was saying, you know, in one of those plane crashes, it comes in hot and belly flops. And the issue is if there is any kind of anomalous activity in, in the magnetosphere or whatever instruments, GPS, etc. Could, could be, could be off. And if the instruments are off and they, and altimeter specifically, and they think they're at 100ft, but they're at 50ft. They're going to belly flop.
Ian Crossland
And there was that plane in. Up in. What's the state up north? Alaska.
Tim Pool
Well, was it. Where was it? Ontario. Ontario, was it? I thought the plane crashed.
Ian Crossland
Gnome. Alaska. And it disappeared.
Phil Labonte
Right?
Ian Crossland
It disappeared, which is an interesting thing for being that close to the North Pole. The magnet, like, maybe it went off. I don't know. I don't know. I'm stretching here and it's kind of off topic.
Tim Pool
No, it's in Nome, Alaska. It was cold and the plane probably crashed.
Ian Crossland
Just the. The sensors malfunction because of temperature.
Tim Pool
No planes crashed. They said limit weather.
Ian Crossland
Didn't they say it disappeared before it went down? Like, disappeared off radar before?
Tim Pool
Maybe it was snowy. Yeah, like sometimes it snows and planes get lost.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, you know that like at like 36,000ft, it's like frequently minus 30 or 40 outside of the plane. So they're, they're, you know.
Tim Pool
You know what really is funny is that, like, Amelia Earhart goes missing and now there's all these movies and shows about how she was abducted by aliens. It's like, bro, plane crashed. Like, there's no mystery. Her plane crashed. And they're like, but what if aliens. Like, why would you even. Why is it. You know, Whatever, man.
Maurice the Native Patriot
They're looking for new conspiracies because most of ours have come true.
Tim Pool
Well, there's an old one, but they're fun, I guess. Yeah. So I suppose that's why the Bermuda.
Ian Crossland
Triangle was a cool one. People thought there was like. I don't know what aliens or people would disappear, like, literally time travel and portal through wormholes and stuff. But it was just. I think it was just magnetic interference in that area of the world. I don't know. Why is it, like, deep there? Maybe deep trench underwater there? I don't know exactly.
Maurice the Native Patriot
There.
Tim Pool
In the Bermuda Triangle.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, No, I, I don't think that has anything to do with the watt. With the depth of the water there. Because if that were. If, if a deep trench in the water were to actually have, like, an effect on planes flying over it, the planes would, like, plummet out of the sky over the Marianas Trench.
Ian Crossland
Oh, dudes.
Phil Labonte
Well, no, they don't, but I'm saying they would.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this next story. The Daily Caller big soda floods state capitol in unprecedented fashion to lobby against Maha. So RFK Jr has apparently issued an ultimatum to these big food producers. We got this from the vigilant Fox and this is actually from a couple days ago. This is. Robert Kennedy will meet with senior leaders of the Processed Foods Industrial Complex to discuss potential topics ranging from banning seed oils and certain food additives to nutrition labels as the Maha revolution begins. So, as most of you know, I've been harping on this one for quite a bit because this, this may be one of the biggest stories in the country right now. West Virginia banned artificial food dyes in food, in schools. And just in general, the legislature passed this. It's supposed to go into effect in 2028. The Senate extended it by a year, giving them three years to figure this out. These big soda companies are now going to the government and telling and trying to get the governor to veto this or to stall it. Daily Caller says lobbyists from the American Beverage association descended on West Virginia State Capitol building on Tuesday in an attempt to thwart a bill that would ban synthetic food dyes. And these are largely made from petroleum, by the way. National lobbyists who rarely if ever show up in Charleston came out in full force to oppose HB2345, which would ban the in state sale of any food products containing Red 3, Red 40, Yellow 5, 6, Blue and Blue 1 and 2, as well as Green 3. Newly minted health and Human Service Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Has lambasted the synthetic dyes and touted studies which show the dyes are linked to negative neurobehavior outcomes in children. I'll tell you this. I got a question for everybody. Why is it that when I look at the ingredients on my food item, instead of putting cochineal mite residue, they write red 40?
Phil Labonte
Oh, God.
Tim Pool
Imagine if they wrote cochineal mite residue, parentheses, insect paste, and, and bracket and parentheses. A lot of people would be like, I ain't eating that. And this is what they do with cricket as well. What's the word for cricket? There's another word. What is it? Do you remember what it is?
Ian Crossland
Millet. No, it's not.
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no. Yeah, they have. They have a word for cricket. So they cannot put cricket on the food label.
Ian Crossland
Oh, yeah. I'll look it up.
Tim Pool
Let me. Yeah, Chad's probably already got. Is called. Where is that?
Phil Labonte
Echia protein. A C H E T A cheddar. Cheddar. That's really.
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, that's a word. I guess. These are the tricks they use to make you eat the bugs. What if I told you guys that red dyes, I don't know which one, are made with cochinial mites? You ever see this one.
Phil Labonte
Gross.
Tim Pool
We did talk about on the show before, but let's. Let's get it. Cochinial mite red dye. You are eating the bugs, everybody. I'm gonna tell you again. You all said I wouldn't eat the bugs. You're eating the bugs. What's. Let's see. They got little pictures of this little guy. Look at that little. Little disgusting thing. Where are they at? Where are the pictures of this stupid thing? The truth about red food Dye made from bugs.
Phil Labonte
Ew.
Tim Pool
Feed it to your kids. How come nobody wants to have the picture of that little bug? Oh, look at this whole cochineal. Insects from botanical colors. Oh, they're out of stock.
Phil Labonte
Whoa, wait.
Tim Pool
Jeez.
Phil Labonte
Wait.
Tim Pool
Where's the picture of the little bug? Is that. Oh. Oh, man. That's the insect paste you guys are eating.
Phil Labonte
Oh, yuck.
Tim Pool
Harvard Museum of Science. There you go. Look at these little guys. Yeah. Eat the bugs. There it is. You guys want to eat that? Oh. Apparently they have, like, an aluminum compound in their bodies, which is bright red. And so they breed them, mash them up, and then you eat them. So that's the day. So my point is this. Yellow 5. Imagine if it said tartrazine. Parentheses, coal tariff.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, that was the first one we. That was the big. In the. I get maybe late 90s or early 2000s. Yellow five. They were like, it shrinks your testicles. That was the big.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah. Because wasn't it in Mountain Dew? Yeah, and they're like, if you eat Mountain Dew and Butterfinger at the same time, it lowers your sperm.
Ian Crossland
Man, I ate a lot of that.
Tim Pool
That was. That was what every, like, every teenage boy told everybody.
Ian Crossland
Frozen Snickers and go golf and drink Mountain Dew and eat frozen Snickers. That was. Those are the days of zits. And I didn't know why I would have zits.
Tim Pool
This is big news, though, my friends. I don't know if you like eating the bugs, but check us out. At least a dozen rushed to ban common food dyes, citing health risks.
Phil Labonte
I love this.
Tim Pool
It's great. It is. And so West Virginia needs lobbying right now. This means we need. We need RFK Jr and his cohorts and other big. Look, there's a big opportunity here. You want to get rich? Open up a food processing factory, plant, whatever, that doesn't use these artificial dyes, and you will own the market in a few years. These mass producers are fighting this. So if we can get big companies to tell the governor that they're going to commit to producing food in the State to adhere to the new ban on artificial dyes and say, screw the big producers. You are not only going to see these. These investors are going to make mad bank because it's basically right now 0. The amount of food production in the state without artificial garbage in it is like close to zero. Everything's got some garbage in it. I'm sure there's stuff like tortillas, which don't have dyes in them. It's just cornmeal and water or flour and water. There's a big opportunity in replacing most of the food people eat, sports drinks. That's what I'm thinking about.
Ian Crossland
Gatorade.
Tim Pool
Why even color the Gatorade?
Ian Crossland
You don't need to. All the Gatorades could be white, just clear and with a yellow label or a red label or a blue label, depending on the flavor. And it just. You don't need the poison in it.
Tim Pool
Right. And so there's a lot of athletes. There's a lot of money to be made right now. The other big thing that I'm really excited for is the food tourism, because you're gonna have. We talked about this before the show. You've got Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland and Virginia, all surrounding West Virginia. And I guarantee you anybody who's within like 15 or 20 minutes of the border is going to be like, you want to go to the grocery store?
Ian Crossland
Sure.
Tim Pool
But let's go to West Virginia because we know literally all the food is clean. Now imagine if they ban glyphosate residue, which they should.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, that's a big one. That's. That's a challenge, too, because of the way. Who was on here last week talking about it? Oh, oh, Robert sitting here on the culture war last week.
Tim Pool
Malone.
Ian Crossland
Malone. He's like the most interesting. You ever see that commercial of the most interesting man in the world? That's Robert Malone, by the way. It looks like that guy.
Tim Pool
So for those who don't know, glyphosate is a. I believe it's a pesticide, but it's used as a desiccant herbicide, fungicide.
Ian Crossland
Pesticide, kills it all. Plants, fungus.
Tim Pool
And so here's what they do. My understanding is that the wheat grows and the wheat needs to die so they can harvest the seed heads, the grains. Right. And anybody who's ever seen wheat grow, it's green, and then when it dies, it dries out. And then you can grab the. The. The whatever. Whatever they're called, the stalks of wheat. Yeah. The grain head or whatever. And then you can not.
Ian Crossland
The Chaff. It's the other part.
Tim Pool
I don't know, whatever.
Maurice the Native Patriot
But it's the actual wheat.
Tim Pool
The grain, the wheat. Well, the wheat is the plant. But then you can get the little, little seed heads out, right? And then you could get. We did this. We made bread.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, super fun.
Tim Pool
And because we had wild wheat growing in the yard. So what happens is the producer, the, the refineries and the distributors will be like, hey, we need to come in and harvest your wheat on this date. So the farmers are like, okay, well it's not, it won't all be ready at the same time unless they spray a desiccant which kills it. And then the glyphosate residue is all over it gets harvested and you eat it.
Ian Crossland
And they've got. Well, and those are the people that aren't using genetically modified wheat that is resistant to Roundup because the Roundup won't kill it. I believe, I believe you cannot desiccate GMO wheat that's resistant to Roundup. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I don't know. So we'd have to revolutionize that farming industry, which is now set to feed billions, hundreds of millions, if not billions of people and get them to grow. Like they're gonna have to change their entire crop. Some of these people that have Roundup ready wheat, that's a big one. But incrementally, it could be done incrementally, but also the problem is it cross contaminates. Like you'll get GMO wheat will like fly through the air in the wind and seeds will land in other farms and then they'll have all of a sudden GMO wheat in their farm.
Tim Pool
You know what I really can't stand is that, okay, so we know that they use glyphosate and other things in these wheat and they go, yeah, but it's safe. I'm like, I don't care if it's safe. I don't want to eat it. So why like. So I'm going to, I'm going to go out of my way and I'm going to buy glyphosate residue free wheat, imported, organic, European, no glyphosate, whatever, garbage.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I think the best part about this as well, especially with them putting up so much of a fight, is the fact that it's going to bring a massive amount of tension on this movement. And with RFK being the head of this and now the media kind of making a spectacle of, you know, all the lobbyists going there, we can kind of see that there's, there's going to be resistance. And the only way that we can overcome that if, is if we have the support of the people. And by having that resistance, it's going to start a, hopefully a conversation with everybody around the country on, okay, what, what are we actually eating? What? I mean, you said it yourself with, with the way that they will deceive the majority of people by putting Red Dye 40 or whatever it is. And so now people are going to start to, to wonder and once they start to get healthier, once they stop, stop eating a lot of this crap, they'll actually start to be able to think better as well. They'll have a more clear mind and have more energy. I mean, I learned that myself by changing my diet entirely. But once this national conversation really starts to happen and we focus a lot more on what we're ingesting in our body each and every day, I think the support is going to come for it. It's kind of the same exact way Trump got into office is the fact that we're able to now direct away from the distractions or whatever they have on the media and look into, you know, well, what kind of media are we consuming? And, and eventually it's going to be what kind of food are we consuming? And hopefully it starts a nationwide movement to actually become healthy again. The Maha movement is going to help this country with. I mean, I don't even know what the, what the outcome's going to be of it, but hopefully it's, it's a really good thing.
Ian Crossland
You ever see the, the videos of like, a drain being unclogged? Do you ever watch videos of that? Like, in the very beginning, all this guck just starts oozing out. That's like the phase we're in right now of cleaning the guts of the American health system. And it's just like mirac. Ridiculous to watch.
Tim Pool
There is a particularly good video where it's a, a dam is, is like the, the dam's drainage or whatever is blocked and then they, or no, no, I think it's actually. The dam has never had the pressure release. So it's a big concrete dam and they like, open the valve and then like sludge starts slowly pouring out. Then you see like a massive wave of mud before water just goes boom and shoots out of it full speed through the air.
Ian Crossland
So how do we lobby? We're kind of lobbying now. West Virginia politicians are watching or listening or people all around the world.
Tim Pool
Well, here's, here's the thing. It passed With I think like 90 out of like 100 reps. It was like 90 something out of 34 senators was 31 senators. So even if the governor were to veto this, it's happening.
Ian Crossland
How does that work? If the governor were to veto, what.
Tim Pool
Would it goes back. Typically how it works, a veto, it goes back and then you need a larger majority to approve it. But because large majorities have already, they got a veto proof majority, apparently. We'll see though. But it doesn't need, it doesn't need to happen like that. We just, you know, gotta make sure the governor knows. And the governor is a big mega guy. He's a big Trump guy, Morrissey. So I think as long as he's made aware that people really care about this nationally, then he's going to do it. What people need to understand though, it ain't so simple when you're dealing with this. It's like on the surface, I'll tell you, I'll tell you how the liberals would handle this. They'd be like, why, why, why don't ban it? Like, why not ban it? It's crazy. Only evil people wouldn't ban it. In the real world you have the adults who are like, we want to ban it, we want to get out of our food. Where will the food come from? Once we shift off this entire infrastructure of food production, we need X amount of tons per food per day, which generates X amount of dollars or Y amount of dollars. And if we turn this off now and we lose a massive portion, are we going to have the food? Because I hate to break it to everybody, most of the cheap, massive food production all has this garbage in it.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, I know. Can you pay 40% more for bags of food? This is just a question for you listening. Can you afford 40% cost increase on your bag of chips?
Tim Pool
Because I think it's easy local. So if, if you don't want Fruity Pebbles, if they, if there was, what is that post, I don't know. If they're like, no, we want our garbage, petroleum chemicals in our food, then all you need is some local West Virginia company to be like, we're going to make, you know, fruity fruity rocks and they're not going to have any colors on them and it's going to be a fruity tasting cereal with no fake petrochemical dyes. They'll make it here and they're going to instantly be a multimillion dollar company.
Ian Crossland
It could be that humans, there's a type of human that looks past what they See, and they'll, they'll, they'll consume something regardless of what it looks like, if it's good for them. And then there's everybody else that is, is blinded by what they see. And we may just be diverging as a human species into the, the discerning ones that can like sense out the healthy stuff and they'll be like, I'm not eating the crap. And then everyone else that just gets dumber and dumber and becomes a subservient class. I don't know if we'll necessarily evolve away and become separate species, but it's a very different type of person that.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Overrides their senses kind of describing like NPCs right now. And the issue that we've been having culturally for years because there's, there's so many people that will just go out and repeat the rhetoric of what they, you know, they'll become a parrot for the TV and then be willing to get in groups and do violent things. I mean like we see with the Tesla's right now. Yeah, Tesla's companies are being attacked and it's not, it's not like the Tesla's are directly tied to Elon. It's, I mean he's literally, he owns Tesla. But these locals companies that are getting all of their inventory burned down and then, or if you're just an everyday American driving a Tesla because a couple years ago you wanted to save the environment, but now they'll damage your car and spray paint a swastik on the side. And, and there's, there's a big difference. And this is why I think Trump won in general was because people are tired of, of that particular way to consume information and they're, they're, they're breaking away from the NPC mindset and actually being open and tolerant and not, not just preaching it because that's what they heard on the tv. They're embodying these values. So I feel like what you're describing is, is like in an enlightenment versus continuing to be a drone.
Ian Crossland
Did they? Well, you said they spray painted a swastika on a Tesla. Did that happen?
Maurice the Native Patriot
Oh yeah.
Tim Pool
I mean, let me serious.
Ian Crossland
The people that would put symbols on other people's property were the Nazis. They would put the Star of David the Jews front door so they could. This is crazy that someone would be like, think this other person's a Nazi so much that they're going to put the Nazi symbol.
Phil Labonte
Fire bombing. Hey, they're firebombing Tesla dealerships in Portland.
Ian Crossland
I've Only heard a little bit about.
Maurice the Native Patriot
You know, who did it because they put a swastika on the side of the Teslas that they didn't burn. Yeah, but they. I think the Babylon B put out a good article today on it. And. Is that what you're pulling up there, Tim?
Tim Pool
I've got an excellent article. I saw this from the Babylon Bee.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah, yeah, that's.
Tim Pool
We actually are going to be using a story from the Babylon Bee. We. Okay, okay. We're gonna start the segment off with what is supposed to be satire. Wow. But is literally just true and correct. So I would like to just say to all of our friends at the Babylon Beat, guys, this is a not the Bee article, not a Babylon B article. It's titled Liberals Defeat Nazis by Painting Swastikas Everywhere and Torching Immigrant Businesses.
Ian Crossland
This is it.
Tim Pool
That literally happened. That's exactly what they're doing. How about this? Here's a headline for you. Babylon B. Climate change activists went defeat oil Execs by Torching Electric vehicles. And electric car Dealerships get shot up like it is. It is the antithesis of what the left is to be going after. Going after Tesla and the way they're going after it. But I will just say it again. Yo. The left is literally spray painting swastikas everywhere and torching electric vehicles.
Ian Crossland
The Nietzsche quote of. If you look into the abyss long, I don't. I don't want to Bashar as a quote long enough, the abyss becomes you. Like if you stare at the demon long enough, you become a demon.
Tim Pool
These are the careful when fighting monsters, lest you become one.
Ian Crossland
Exactly.
Tim Pool
Stare into the abyss, the abyss stares.
Ian Crossland
And when you hate something, if you hate something, you're with every fiber of your being and you're obsessed with it. And you hate it. And you hate it. You'd be surprised at how likely you are to become that thing. You got to be real careful that you don't become a Nazi in your attempt to stop them somehow by spray painting the Nazis insignias and destroying property.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Well, this. This also kind of shows exactly how it doesn't matter who you are. Eventually you'll become a victim of this kind of this Marxist mentality. Because you could be a complete liberal living in Seattle who owns an electric vehicle and you've supported them the entire time. And now you have a sticker on your car that says, you know, I bought this before Elon went crazy. But believe it or not, fealty won't save you. You can pledge your allegiance to these psychopaths all you want. But if. If they just decide that you're the next target, you will be the next target, and there's nothing you can do to stop.
Tim Pool
I really, really do want to just thank all the liberal progressive activists here. Thank them so much because they've proven exactly what we've been saying for so long. So now when I go to my liberal friends and they're like, but, Tim Elon, blah, blah, blah. Stop. Okay? I've been telling you the whole time, the left has no ethos. They have no ideology. An example is liberal left progressives painting swastikas and everything and torching electric cars. You ain't gonna tell me they hate. They hate Nazis when they spray paint swastikas everywhere. And they do. They do it all the time. This has been a meme for almost 10 years now where people have been making for the left because liberals or progressives would ironically spray paint swastikas to mock the right. But then you're just literally doing it. But now, now they're actually setting. Setting electric vehicles on fire, shooting them up. They were privately owned Tesla vehicles that far leftists fired guns at. So I don't think they care all that much about emissions and climate change. And I think this just proves the point we're making the whole time. There is no ideology on the left. Or at least it proves what I've been saying.
Ian Crossland
There's not really a constitutional, coherent, structured ideology that I can discern to the left. Yeah, I can't.
Tim Pool
There's none. Like, come on. I pointed this out with Hasan Piker where I was commenting. He was commenting on a video I made. Commenting on a video he made, which is funny. And I said, he's completely correct about the story, was they were Mr. Beasted Cataract surgeries for blind people to cure their blindness. And it was like 10k a pop. And he was like, why are we turning health care into a game show? Why can't we actually just give people health care? Like it's a simple procedure one time. And I said, he is completely correct. I don't know the solution is government health care necessarily, but it is kind of cringe that these people had cataract blindness and we were making a game show out of it to try to help these people. In that video, I said, the military industrial complex is bad. That's why we shouldn't be funding Ukraine. And yo, in the same breath, the dude says, well, the military industrial complex is bad. Ha. But he doesn't want to fund Ukraine because there's no ideology. They're told what they're supposed to believe by the rest of the cult and they just march in lockstep. And we keep saying, hey, you're hypocrites. And they go, no we're not. We are a hive mind of ravenous insects that only care about whether we have the majority. That's it.
Ian Crossland
The hive mind. Things wild in Facebook. I, a lot of friends from Los Angeles in the, in the acting industry and man, when they started posting hive, what should I do about thing? I feel okay, I gotta go to the hive on this one. And they'd use that like they, they, they were like proud of the hive mind. It was very disturbing because if you tried to eviscerate from that in any way, they would, they would ostracize you. Eviscerate, eviscerate. If you tried to like just, just slice pieces away off of. Yeah, coming from a tangent, trying to describe something differently. They did not like that. Maybe it's anecdotal, but I don't think so. Because the amount of people I've heard that have been ostracized from their friends that go into that state of mind, it, I don't think it just ends with me.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Well, and you can, you can see it clearly from who they target. And over the years the target could be literally anybody. I know that last year when Holden Armenta went to the Chiefs game and he was wearing a headdress to celebrate his team and different, he had black and red face paint. He was targeted by this same ideology. He was a nine year old child who literally was just going to the game in, in costume to celebrate the Chiefs. And of course he's Native American as well, from the Chuamis tribe in California. And they were perfectly willing to target a nine year old child and label him as a racist. And then they went after his family who stood up for him in every way, shape and form, which is something that I really admired. I was, we were actually able to start a fundraiser and get him to the super bowl that year. It didn't make a lot of headlines, but it was really, really cool to kind of see a whole bunch of people come together in support of that when you do stand strong against it. But my point here is, is that they'll come after anybody at any time, even if you're an innocent nine year old child. And now you're seeing that they've turned on electric cars or at least Elon and his electric cars, because it's just, it's the Next target that they can all get behind. And it's more about destroying than it ever has been about creating.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, this is. This is something that's been kind of ubiquitous with the left for the better part of, you know, at least 10 years, probably more. But the, the idea that they want to use, you know, they enforce their. Their ideology or their. Or their. Their preferences, whatever you want to call it, and they use fear to keep people in line, because that's all cancel culture and stuff is. It's all a method of control. It's a way to keep people from saying things they don't like saying. You know, having opinions or sharing opinions that they find offensive. And those opinions can progress and change very quickly. One day it's okay to say one thing, and then a week later you say the same thing, and someone's, you know, giving you a rash of crap about it because the, the, you know what, it's politically correct. Has moved on without you.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Do you think that's why they always have to constantly. Virtue signal, like what we talked about in the beginning of the show with how he was, you know, how dare you address him as. Or hers. Him as her? I don't know. But they, they almost have to constantly do that to keep updating everybody around them what the current narrative is. So it's. It's just. It's constantly changing and moving forward, and the only way to keep up is to constantly. Virtue signal.
Ian Crossland
Super exhausting. I think that's why I'm into the Constitution, because it's a. It's a constant. I don't have to worry about, like, is free speech okay yesterday or tomorrow? Like, I don't have to dance around hoping I'm doing the right thing because I know what the right thing is. It's to follow the. The law of the land.
Tim Pool
It.
Ian Crossland
To an extent, you know, you follow the Constitution, which allows you to change it if you need to. And I don't know, I mean, free speech, you know, you uphold the speech of your. Of your enemy, of those you oppose. You give them an opportunity to speak their mind. That's the whole ethos of how you even have the opportunity.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
And that's what you should realize if. If you find yourself identifying with the cult mentality is like, you need resistance. You need to hear ideas you don't agree with. You need to be offended so that you can grow.
Tim Pool
I largely agree with Carl Benjamin. A lot of these things. We were all very naive to play this game of. I don't agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death. You're right to say it, because these are people who are exploiting any and every weakness to try and bring about Marxist communist bs. So my attitude now is if you believe in free speech, then I'll defend your free speech. If you don't believe in it, then I don't care if you get banned or censored or shut down.
Phil Labonte
Liberals. Liberalism is a closed system, and I'm talking about actual liberalism, like liberal ideas in a liberal society. It works for liberals.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
People that are not liberals, like, which are outside of the closed system, they can take advantage of the, of things like the freedom of speech.
Tim Pool
Right. Which, but to be honest, all systems work within closed systems. Right. So if, if, like I said this all the time, if the whole world was as devout as Seamus Coughlin, you wouldn't need police. You would, I mean, arguments may arise which would result in the need for courts, but you wouldn't need cops.
Phil Labonte
No, not because armies. No, not everything works that way. Because if you're, if you're like, if you're an authoritarian, you use violence, use force. So, so that it's force that keeps people in line. What I'm saying about liberalism is everyone that's a liberal accepts the fact that, that this is the way our society works.
Tim Pool
Right. What I'm saying is it's vulnerable to people from. In a system of fascism where everybody is a fascist, there's no fighting. They all agree with each other and they like what is happening. There maybe could be coups and backstabbing, but that applies to literally any other closed system as well. A classically liberal system where everybody agrees on all the rules and gets along could still have backstabbing and infighting. So ultimately, if you have 100 people of the same ideology, they're going to work together.
Ian Crossland
I got this.
Tim Pool
In other words, fascism. None of these ideas work outside of their spaces. And classical liberalism does not work, especially because it is ill equipped to defend itself.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. And this keeps going across my civilization. 4. You may have played the fourth one. I don't know if you guys. But you research liberalism and then that opens up the ability to research communism. So it's kind of like liberalism gets hacked by the communist state of mind.
Maurice the Native Patriot
The whole.
Ian Crossland
We can all do this together.
Tim Pool
Well, to be fair, the reason why civilization does that is because they're actually following the historical literature.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Tim Pool
That is, liberalism came about well before communism.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. And it kind of lays the groundwork for people to become communist because if you're if you have.
Phil Labonte
That's the argument that Carl Benjamin makes that, that it, that communism is a natural outgrowth of liberalism. So I, I tend to disagree with him. I think that, that he, his, his perspective is that the Enlightenment leads to liberalism, which leads to communism. I think that, that the, the English Enlightenment and the French Enlightenment and the German Enlightenment, those are. The Scottish Enlightenment. Those are actually substantially different in principle and stuff. And I, I know that there, there are, there are things in the French Enlightenment that you really saw come to fruition in the French Revolution would. Yeah, Bruce, Exactly. Rousseau and, and that kind of, the kind of man, like society should be, man as an animal, but socialized. That's something that's, that came from the French Revolution. And I don't think that there is some kind of allegory in the, in the Scottish or English revolutions and, or Enlightenment. I'm sorry. And I think that that makes a difference with the results that you get. But I haven't had a chance to talk with Carl about that yet.
Ian Crossland
So what was it, the state property aspects of liberalism that, that led towards communism. Like what, what happened?
Phil Labonte
Well, the, the, the idea that everybody should have the same stuff. So that's something that, that you get with the, with the French Enlightenment, that everything is the same, everybody is the same and everyone should have this. Yeah, the leveling of the, of the. Thank you. Leveling of society. Whereas you don't really have that same kind of impulse in the Scottish and English Enlightenments. So if everybody has the same, that means that the people that have more. You can't make people that are incapable of doing things capable. Right. You can make the capable incapable.
Tim Pool
You know, the funny thing about communism is, is how remarkably stupid it is in its simplicity and how in order to actually believe in it, you have to be developmentally disabled. I can explain what is it? To each according to their need. From each according to their means. Is that saying each according.
Phil Labonte
From each according to their ability. To each according to their need.
Tim Pool
Right. So what happens when you have growing populations of people with no ability? Their needs stay the same. Let's call it 100 Food Resource Units required per person. You are going to have a society of an increasingly lower ability with communism no matter what you do. So it's fascinating that you can have, you know, George Carlin make the joke. Think about how stupid the average person is now realize half of them are stupider than that. Just that joke alone explains why communism can never work. We're going to have a lot of people who have no ability to produce but need tons of food, let's make sure they get it. That means if on average a person can produce 100 resource units and a person requires 100 resource units, in order for there to be a functioning communist system, you would need equal amounts of people who can produce an excess and to accommodate the people who can produce in, in, in the, in the negatives or who can't produce at all. So someone can produce 110, congratulations, you're now accommodating someone who can produce 90. Then you need to make sure those people who overproduce are happy and can continue to overproduce. You can't. It's not possible. And thus communism can't.
Ian Crossland
You also have to have to enforce the level of need. You have to say, you're always going to need 100. That can't change because then our system will fail. And if some days you need 130 because you fell down.
Tim Pool
This is what I love about how stupid the Soviet Union was. So you guys ever hear of Soylent? You know what Soylent is?
Ian Crossland
I've heard of it.
Tim Pool
So this company wanted to make a meal replacement so you don't have to eat anymore. That was the idea. And I remember when it first came out, it's like 12, 13 years ago, I think it was 12 years ago. We got sent, when I was advice, we got sent this bag of like Soylent Beta or whatever, like the early release. And it was this powder that tasted like cardboard. And you got sent a tube of oil and you'd mix it with water in the oil. And the idea was this has the average amount of food protein and everything a human body needs. So you're eating as clean as possible. Well, guess what? The people behind. So it figured out literally every single human has a different requirement. There is no every human needs X amount of milligrams. There's an average. But every human needs a slightly different amount. There's, you're slightly taller, you're slightly fatter, slightly shorter, whatever. So then they said, okay, you can largely consume Soylent, but you must get a regular full meal, you know, once or twice a week to supplement what your body is missing. So it just did not work in the Soviet Union. They were like, every family gets one bag of this, one carton of that, one box of this, and you fill it out in your little book. And it's like, yeah, that can't work because everybody is different. And they were hoping everybody would be.
Ian Crossland
As tall as each other and everybody will change too. Like, I'M different than you and I'll be different tomorrow than I am today. So like tomorrow I might need more vitamin C. Yesterday maybe I needed more Omega 3. And that's going to change every day too, depending on the weather, depending on what other factors, you know, external factors.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I think it's also a fundamental misunderstanding of our, how they teach history. Because if, if we were to take the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence that, that all, all humans are created equal and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights of those rights or life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that is completely ignored in this entire ideology. And they just believe that every human can be molded into whatever they would like as opposed to being an individual created to and, and have the right to pursue happiness. Without that fundamental understanding of why our country is so different than every other country or nation created before it, then it's will inevitably keep falling into these. Like what the Soviet Union did in trying to, trying to hand out to everybody as if they're the same people. But we're not, we're unique. That's, that's why America is so great, is because we actually can see that the individual is a unique and created in the image of God and that we should, we should be able to, that we should have more responsibilities than we have creating a burden on society.
Ian Crossland
Has ever been a liberal republic like a democratic republic that's converted to a communist state? Because I can't, I can't, I can't think of a democratic republic that's become a communist state. I think of monarchies that have, like Russia got rid of their king, they became communists.
Phil Labonte
Usually it's a rebel, usually it's a revolution that would lead to it, of.
Ian Crossland
Course, but, but I can't think of like a democrat because the democratic republic at least, see the United States is so unique. It's just like resilient against it because you're allowed to speak out against it.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I mean, kind of we're 250, we're not very old as a country and we're, and we're like, you know, 36 and a half trillion dollars in debt, on the brink of collapse. In several ways Venezuela was starting voted.
Phil Labonte
Their way into socialism. You know, they voted their way right into it. And now, you know, they're stuck. Yeah. And you know, first it was Chavez and then Maduro. Maduro's been expropriating property taking, you know, taking people's businesses, taking homes, taking farms and, and they're having the economic results that go along with It. And that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's multiple other ones because the idea of communism sat or the idea of socialism sounds good if you, if you only have a surface level understanding. It's like, oh, everybody gets what they need. Everybody has nobody, nobody goes without. Everybody gets what they need. And that's what people hear. And they're like, government should be able to do that, but government can't do it.
Ian Crossland
Feels so good to say it too. I don't know if you have ever inadvertently been a communist. I have. In 2006, 7 when I was on Internet videos. I'm like, we can all do this. This is all of us in this together. But I kept this whole all encompassing. We all are the same. We are all. And it just was so empowering as a leader to speak like that and to think just without really thinking about it, to act, talk like that. And it's just.
Tim Pool
Here's a fun viral meme. One user posts what are you all going to do once communism is achieved? The next person says, building gardens, teaching classes on my farm, creating organizing spaces and cultivating resources for my community. So basically what I'm planning to do anyway, but without fighting capitalism. To which the response is your farm. That's right.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Well, that's perfect.
Tim Pool
Yeah. You're not gonna have a farm. They will expropriate it.
Ian Crossland
You're better off building a biodome that you own and then living inside the biodome.
Tim Pool
Well, the funny thing to me is that as Ron Paul pointed out some what, 20 years ago or longer, socialism is allowed in the United States. There is nothing stopping any one of these people from going and setting up a socialist little commune. In fact, there are some communes that exist. There's one famous commune in the United States. They have a cap at like 100 members. And in order to join there's a waitlist. Some people will leave and move out and then people can move in.
Ian Crossland
Has anyone ever been killed?
Tim Pool
No.
Ian Crossland
Okay.
Maurice the Native Patriot
No.
Ian Crossland
It's just like what if there's like someone wanted to get in and there was like the waitlist is just. What is this waitlist going to.
Tim Pool
This is the thing about a commune existing within a capitalist system. You've got the protections of the government, police, fire and military. So you're not going to get attacked. You can choose to leave whenever you want and go do anything else. And that's why it works small scale, large scale doesn't work well.
Maurice the Native Patriot
It's. It's voluntary.
Tim Pool
Right, right.
Maurice the Native Patriot
It's then it's. They're building something that they believe in, which is not what communism would boil down to. Communism is forcing everybody to do what also want to do, as opposed to them volunteering and doing it themselves.
Tim Pool
The reason the communists tend to kill so many people is that they're hoping to kill anyone who disagrees with communism. Their idea is if everyone just agreed this is the way it should be, we'd be totally fine and the system would work.
Phil Labonte
Which. Which is which one is worse, right? A totalitarian system or an authoritarian system?
Ian Crossland
Probably totalitarian, yeah.
Phil Labonte
Because totalitarian doesn't allow you to think anything different. Like they need to control your mind. That's why you. That's why the communists put people away in re education camps, right? The, like authoritarians, like maybe they'll just take your stuff or maybe they'll beat the crap out of you just because they feel like it or whatever. But if you keep your mouth shut in your head down, you might be able to fly under the radar and kind of just go about your day. Right. With a totalitarian system, like they're interested in you being a true believer. So that's why you get sent to re education camps. You get sent to a. To a place to relearn how to think. And the crazy thing is there are people that are on Twitch today that say, yeah, we should send people to re education camps. Hassan Piker and said that Hillary Clinton, he said they would need to be. Yeah, absolutely. But he said, you know, that you would need to send people to be reeducated. You need to teach them they need to be reeducated. I think he said it in context when he was talking to Ethan Klein.
Tim Pool
I'm concerned. I don't think that guy could run a mile.
Ian Crossland
Who?
Phil Labonte
Hassan Hasan Piker.
Ian Crossland
He was just on Theo. Theo von show. Yeah, Theo had him on last week. That was nice. I watched 10 minutes of it. It was pretty cool, dude. I think he was stoned. It was pretty funny. Really tired. It was early morning. I don't know. He was like talking like this. I kind of. I don't know. I appreciate what Hassan does. He's super like surface level.
Tim Pool
You appreciate what he does? What, advocate for murdering people?
Ian Crossland
No, no. Sit around eight hours a day and talk on the Internet. That I appreciate.
Phil Labonte
Sit around 8 hours a day and advocates.
Ian Crossland
That's pretty horrible. And I would if he did. If he did that, I would debate him.
Phil Labonte
He doesn't all the time.
Tim Pool
And he thinks. The funny thing is no one, there's no serious law enforcement in this country. Because if there were the case when Hasan was like, you got to go do X in a video game, there'd be a knock on his door. He was not going to happen.
Ian Crossland
Sam Hyde, after his boxing match. Hassan, I'm going to. Well, that.
Phil Labonte
Recently. Hassan recently said that someone should go and murder a sitting.
Tim Pool
Well, he said if. If. If you actually cared about X, then you would go do. Yeah. Which is, oh, won't someone rid me of this?
Ian Crossland
The argument is, some people will bottle it up and then they'll go do it, and they won't speak about it, and you'll never know who they were. You didn't see it coming. Hasan at least is vocal about these, but then the other side is. Maybe he's inspiring people to act like.
Tim Pool
Hasan does what literally all these other people are doing right now. But he has a big following. There are tons of people all across social media advocating for. For harm and death against Trump and Elon and others.
Ian Crossland
Dude, like, the current stuff with.
Tim Pool
Oh, my camera's all off.
Ian Crossland
But the current stuff going on with Hassan and the. The whole, like, the whole twitch groups.
Tim Pool
That are attacking Hassan's kids and, like, sending CPS to his house and stuff.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Like that, I don't think that.
Tim Pool
Let me pull this one up right here. This is. This is a tweet that's going around. It's from Maggie Mota. Viral tweets are now referring to plans to assassinate Elon Musk in coded language. And someone said the person who does it is going to be mentioned in so many rap songs. Someone says, does what? And the response is 4/ asterisks. At 4, it's 4/ asterisks 3 times. Because we know everybody knows exactly what they're saying. Here's the thing. So do judges. Like, these people are so stupid. They think the judge is going to be like, well, after seeing that message and taking an action and committing a crime, we can't prove any link to it because he used asterisks. Yeah, it's like, yeah, judges won't do that. They're gonna be like, we knew what you were intending to do.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Easily. Easily taken apart by anybody with common sense would actually be able to look at that and know what they're advocating for. And I mean, these people believe that there's no truth but power. And so, yeah, they apply that to everybody and everything. And that is. It shows in their tactics and the way that they have been. I mean, the violent riots around this country for the past, you know, well, the decade at least, have Been because they believe that there's no truth of power. And so when Trump and Elon get into power, they think that they have to use their own and advocate for violence in order to get it done.
Phil Labonte
You can see it the way that the left lionizes Luigi Mangione. Bill Burr made a. A dumb remark about Mangione the other day.
Ian Crossland
What do you say to free him?
Phil Labonte
You said free, Free Luigi. Yeah. He was complaining about rich people, people richer than Bill Burr, mind you, because Bill Burr is worth like 20 mil. Oh, but he was complaining about rich people. And then he threw in a free Luigi at the end of it. And it's like, that was a couple.
Tim Pool
Months ago, wasn't it? Or like a month.
Phil Labonte
I just saw it today. He does it again. Yeah, it's the second time. Oh, my gosh. I was just.
Ian Crossland
Crazy, dude. I mean, comedy is one thing, but talking about freeing a murder. Is he convicted? Was he convicted? Is he on trial?
Tim Pool
No. And I think there's a good reason to believe he's not the guy.
Ian Crossland
Really?
Tim Pool
Yeah, because we, I, we all said this before he got arrested, and then even a week after he got arrested, and then it just sort of became de facto that everyone just assumed he was the guy. And I'm like, guys, he doesn't. He's wearing a different jacket with a different backpack than the guy in the video shooting the CEO. And you have what we refer to in the minority report sense, an orgy of evidence when they found him, which is, here's a guy with a backpack with the motive and the weapon and like, but everything on him. And it's just like, okay, do we, do we really believe that?
Phil Labonte
Fair enough.
Tim Pool
When you look at the surveillance footage of the guy with thin eyebrows who looks middle aged, and then you look at Luigi with massive thick eyebrows, I'm not convinced he actually is the guy.
Phil Labonte
Fair enough. But Bill Burr didn't say free Luigi because he thinks that Luigi did.
Tim Pool
Right. Everyone's lionizing the guy because they think he did it.
Phil Labonte
The point of his, of Bill Burr's comment was Luigi Mangioni did something actually, you know, actually acted on his. His beliefs, and he went after the crooked CEO, Health Healthcare, Health United or whatever. CEO, and murdered him. So he should be let go because he did a good thing. That's the, essentially the, the synopsis of what Bill Burr is saying. And that's the norm nowadays. Again, whether it be terrorist attacks against Tesla dealerships, which is what they are. The point is to terrify people. The point is to frighten People and it's about politics because of his, his, his association with Donald Trump and with Doge. People saying things like Free Luigi. Whether it was the whole entire summer of riots over George Floyd which proved to be over nothing. The total burnt like burning down of half of Kenosha over a, a misunderstood video or a, a BS narrative. The left is constantly violent. Constantly violent. It is the norm nowadays.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, but it, what like in the night, Was it all just being directed in the 90s? Because I don't remember it until Internet, you know, Internet video, now I can see it was just happening overseas before. They were just directing all the vitriol towards you. Our enemy, our common enemy.
Phil Labonte
If you look at the way that, if you look at the number of bombings in the 70s from organization, leftist organizations like the Weather Underground, there were bombs going off all the time. All the time. Hundreds of bombings. I'm going to, I'm going to take a look now.
Tim Pool
Well, I think we're entering that Weather Underground period with the Tesla attacks and I think this summer it's going to get real crazy.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I, I agree with that and I feel like I kind of underestimated the amount of resistance because it's felt like for this first month since Trump has been elected, there's been almost like a lack of resistance just in a certain way.
Phil Labonte
Between 1971 and 1972, the United States experienced more than 2,500 domestic bombings according to FBI statistics. These are all from, from left leaning groups. These are all radical leftists. These are all the leftovers of the, the, the some, the, the Summer of love in the 60s, the, the, you know, anti capitalist movements that were, that were born in the 60s, the communist movements that were born in the 60s and this is just in one year, 2500. Additionally, during the 1970s, nearly a dozen dozen radical underground groups including the Weather Underground, the New World Liberation Front and the Symbionese Liberation army set off hundreds of bombs. So the idea that, that the, the left is actually looking for peace and, and whatnot, that's all BS and we had a, a left, a leftist on here the other a couple weeks ago or whatever saying that oh, you know, it's the right wing that is, is, that is the dangerous one and stuff. Hundreds of bombings, 2,500 in one year and then additionally hundreds of other bombings throughout the course of the 70s. But yet that doesn't get, that doesn't actually compute. There was a bombing of Congress, there were, there was a bomb that went off in Congress and Bill Clinton let the People out. Free. Free them.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I think there might have been a small difference, though, is that nowadays these people hate the idea of America. Yeah. And have been segregated into kind of their own groups. And they, they. They're not actually going in this with a. With a goal in mind, apart from maybe like a thumbnail view of communism where everything's just bunnies and flowers. But they're literally just driven by hatred and division. They hate the idea of this country and they want to burn it to the ground so hopefully they can come out on top and rule over the ashes. But I mean, that. That idea that a lot of the groups back then at least had the idea that they liked this country.
Ian Crossland
I wonder, I don't know, the funding, because, like, USAID shut down. Where's all. Where all those people now? What are they doing? Are they involved with this? Because, like, in the early 70s, you're saying 70, 71, 2500 bombings. Nixon. Was he the president at that point? I think it was Nixon, yes. And apparently Nixon. I always thought Nixon, horrible guy, got. He resigned. He was. Got impeached. He was getting impeached. Turns out maybe not. Maybe Nixon was going to blow the lid on who killed Kennedy and they wanted him out and they framed him and they, they. And maybe there was money behind the scenes to disrupt the powers that be at the time.
Tim Pool
Marie, just say Nixon was framed.
Ian Crossland
He was talking about it on.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
Is it Nixon was framed versus it was Nixon, Ford.
Maurice the Native Patriot
And I mean, just looking at everything that kind of happens now. Would that surprise you in any way, shape or form?
Tim Pool
I mean, they tried framing Trump.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. It wouldn't now. No. If Nixon was trying to push back against the. The liberal economic order at the time, which he very well might have been.
Tim Pool
Remember the bulls in the 90s?
Ian Crossland
Oh, yeah.
Tim Pool
They were like the best basketball team ever.
Ian Crossland
Pippin.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Jordan.
Tim Pool
It was just like Chamberlain. Yeah. How many. How many people could you name on one team at one time that were. Baston.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. I love that. I played a lot of Lakers vs Celtics.
Tim Pool
The Bulls have that now.
Phil Labonte
I don't know.
Tim Pool
No, definitely not. The cultural ubiquity of the bulls in the 90s was crazy.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Was crazy.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Space Jam.
Tim Pool
So I'm saying Graham Nixon, when it comes to Nixon, you've got effectively in the CIA, the bulls of the 90s. And with Trump, you have the Bulls now.
Ian Crossland
Oh, yeah. The power is a hundredth of what it was.
Tim Pool
These guys were the dream team of coups, and they could pull it off on Nixon and Kennedy, maybe. And with Donald Trump. You got, like a ragtag bunch. The brand is there, but the talent isn't. And they couldn't. They couldn't make it work.
Ian Crossland
It's like the sons of Michael Jordan's son and Pippin's son. You're like, dude, they never even practiced basketball. He's like, yeah, but he's my son. So he's the one in charge. He's the one that gets the part.
Tim Pool
Even think that the Suns. I think they're DEI hires.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, they're not.
Tim Pool
You know, it'd be really funny if the reason why the CIA was unable to stop Trump is because they enacted DEI and hired a bunch of incompetent people. What happened? How come the coup didn't work? Well, you know, we hired a bunch of people based on race and gender instead of their ability to stage coups. So we couldn't do it.
Ian Crossland
Because I imagine they don't do that at the top. They don't. They don't care about race and gender at the people, the owners, I bet they do. You think they sit around, they're like, Jack Dorsey.
Tim Pool
Jack Dorsey was like, Twitter is the free speech wing of the Free Speech Party. And he. He ran the show, and then with a couple of years, he was like.
Ian Crossland
We should bad people forsake the rock products.
Tim Pool
It's like, how does that happen to you? You run it because they plug the garbage into their own brain.
Ian Crossland
You said, what did he. What did he say? I couldn't understand.
Tim Pool
We should ban people for saying the wrong pronouns.
Ian Crossland
But, I mean, at the top, like, I keep thinking about Swiss bankers and.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Like, there's no difference, though. There's no difference at the top. Like, one. One thing that I kind of. I've gone through a couple stages in my life where I've noticed that a lot of the drama that you see even up at the very top is no different than the drama that you experienced in middle school. You kind of realize that these adults, they don't. They don't grow up and they're not responsible and they'll lie straight to your face. So even at the very top, they still fall victim to this DEI and this virtue signaling, because in order to get there, they had to participate in that. Or. Or it's. It's kind of sad to see now, but we're. We're seeing the ramifications of. Of years and years of this taking place in our culture and society now. But there's. There's no difference between what's happening up. Up at the top and what you experience like in, in Drama workplace.
Ian Crossland
Well, like, like eps, like the Epstein stuff might. We have Mike Cernovich on a couple weeks ago and he's basically the guy that broke the Epstein story. And he was like, I think the reason it's not coming out super fast because it's like top level royal governments kings are like, yo, you're not going to. We're not going to sell oil to the United States anymore now that you release the files.
Phil Labonte
Big say that.
Ian Crossland
No, he was intimating that. He thought it was like top level global royalty stuff, which is why it hasn't come out. And I'm open to that idea because like if we release the files and we lost 20% of our imports because countries are just like, all right, well, you crossed the Rubicon. We're not there anymore. But like those kings, those people, king of Saudi Arabia, he doesn't have to appoint dei. He wouldn't. He'd appoint the best around him at all times.
Phil Labonte
They still have slaves in Saudi Arabia, so they're not worried about those kind of things. They remember in the Middle east. They don't change their. The logos in the Middle east for, for pride month because that would, you know, get them booted out of the country. These, the. The Middle east and the cultures in the Middle east are not at all anything like the West. Like the thing like so like we live in a culture that like, if someone attacks you, right, it's normal to go to the police. If someone attacks your property or attacks you, it's normal to go. To go to the police. There are other cultures in the world where if you go and appeal to authority, someone, someone disrespects you or someone hurts your property or whatever, and you go and you appeal to authority, you're cast out of society. Like, you're expected to go like an. It's an honor society. You're expected to go handle that by yourself. And the police aren't going to do anything. So you go handle it by yourself. And that's far closer to something like something like the Middle east or in, in some cultures in the Middle east, because it's not, it's not a panacea. It's not a panacea in the, in the Middle East. But you know, in, in specifically in Saudi Arabia, it's not the same thing as the US at all.
Ian Crossland
Well, maybe, I mean, I'm thinking about inbreeding in royal families, thinking about for my whole life. But finally it's time. Hundreds, millennia children are born from parents that are Brother and sister for to save royal blood. That's like dei. That's like we need to force a result. We have to. We have to create. You know, you're not going to marry the hottest girl. You're going to marry your sister. And it's like, well, I have to.
Tim Pool
Do that in large in parts of the world.
Ian Crossland
And that's kind of like dei. It's like. It's like purity.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
And then it creates these. These, you know, developmentally, you know, handicapped kids, sometimes because of the inbreeding, which is why it's illegal in a lot of places. And so that's like the immediate result of a DEI marriage.
Tim Pool
I don't think cosmetics is extremely common in the Middle East.
Phil Labonte
I think it's more cousin marriage than marrying, like, sisters and stuff.
Ian Crossland
Like, the Habsburgs were a son of maybe brother and sister or like, I think at some point there wasn't.
Tim Pool
Like In World War I, the warring kings were all cousins or something like that.
Phil Labonte
I think so, yeah.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Very common.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I think the only way to kind of get back to being the true leader of the free world, like what America is supposed to be and not bending the knee to, you know, the World Economic Forum and things like that, would be to release this list. Because here in this country and what we're supposed to be promoting worldwide is that all men are created equal. And we don't believe in the royalties. We separated from the. The British monarchy for a reason, because we. We believe that all men are created equal. So whoever's on that list, be it royalty from another country or, you know, Ds are ours here in America, that list needs to come out. I know that it's. It can't be done, you know, tomorrow, even though I would like to see it and figure out, you know, who's been running this stuff or who's been compromised behind the scenes. Because it sure feels like we've had puppets in place of representatives that do their own thing as opposed to having representatives for the people. Like, our government hasn't been running the way it's. It was designed by the founding fathers to run because we've had too many compromised representatives that we will vote in because they say the right thing during the election time. But in all reality, once they get in, they get into that club and they. They perform these terrible things to where now all of a sudden they're just. They're. It's like. It's no different than like a Joe Biden presidency. Like, he wasn't actually running things, but. And Then you kind of take that and you bring it all the way down to all of our representatives and judges and all of these, all these famous people who participated in, in the Epstein and Diddy parties. And then you realize that the, the government itself has been compromised. And that's why people are waking up and saying, like, how did we get this. How did we get to this point where they're arguing now for genital mutilation of. Of children and trying to codify it into the Washington State Constitution? How did we get to this point? It's because we've had compromised representatives that haven't been representing the people itself. If we are all created equal and our system of governance being a constitutional republic, is meant to have us vote in representatives, and we need to actually have representatives, and transparency in what they're doing is key.
Tim Pool
It's all fake. Like when Al Green got up there and wiggled his cane at Donald Trump. It's all fake. Congress is not real. They are not legislating. That's just not what they do. And we've known this for some time. It's been, what, like two years now since we had Marjorie Taylor Greene tell us how Congress actually functions where they. Nobody actually goes to any of the votes. There's someone who's not the parliament or the parliamentarian, not the speaker is like, we have a bill that says this and they go. And there's like four Republicans and four Democrats and no one really cares. That's what's actually going on. So when, when I hear that story, we heard from Thomas Massie, too, and we hear. We heard from everybody, Matt Gates and everybody. And then you're like, then why do we keep seeing these great battles over certain bills? It's like, oh, it's fake. When you see on tv, and it's like, this is the bill they're battling over. Certainly the, the funding bills, like crs, Those are real. That's where they're trying to get the money. But on most of these bills that are inconsequential, like, don't say providing, providing a million dollars to a, a bread manufacturing plant in Nebraska and whatever, go for it. Nobody cares.
Ian Crossland
With Al Green, I'd love to see that. Censure hasn't happened yet, correct?
Tim Pool
It was supposed to, but Democrats started singing.
Ian Crossland
So I think because I used to be like, what's the point of censoring or censuring congressmen? It just seems so pointless. But now I realize, do it in public. That's it. On tv. Humiliate the character for for abusing power. And we'll all watch.
Tim Pool
And that's what it is. Except now Democrats block the censure and start singing. And then Speaker Johnson was just like, adjourned. And they leave. I'm like, adjourn. Arrest them.
Ian Crossland
Like, I don't think you need. I don't think you need other Congress people in the room. You put Al Green on the podium, you censure him in front, say no with all the cameras on him, and just make it a humiliation ritual.
Tim Pool
That's literally what it is. He just said no. And then Johnson adjourned the meeting.
Ian Crossland
He said no. What do you mean? Like, he wouldn't acquiesce to the.
Tim Pool
Johnson's banging the gavel, being like a present for censure. And then he starts singing. Democrats block the well. And then Johnson goes adjourned and leaves. But that's because the allure is supposed to be exactly what you're describing. But it's meaningless if there's no enforcement of it.
Ian Crossland
Right.
Tim Pool
So maybe we get a speaker with some balls. Make me speaker one day, I will arrest all of these.
Ian Crossland
I don't know if you need to arrest those guys yet.
Tim Pool
Yes.
Ian Crossland
Or necessarily, you block the.
Tim Pool
Well, during an official proceeding to censure somebody who is obstructing Congress, I am going to instruct the sergeant at arms to collect the Capitol Police and have every single person obstructing right now arrested. They were warned three or four times, and they were singing songs out.
Ian Crossland
They used to do. My assumption is censorship or censoring in private. I mean, it would just be Congress. They do it in front of their fellow Congressmen and be like, all right, fine, whatever. He's loud. He's been loud for 20 years. Whatever. But now you do it in front of 103 billion people on TV and it's a real humiliation session.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
I mean, the point before was to just put it into the Congressional Record. Right. So it officially says this guy was a pile of crap. Right. And he did this misbehaving, misbehavior. But I do think that it is valuable to put it on TV and have it all over the Internet so that way people can see. Oh, yeah, he should be embarrassed. He's a. He's a schmuck. But I don't think.
Tim Pool
But it's on. It's on TV where it is. It's on C Span. It's on whoever wants to carry it. And then we're at the point now where, for one, we know it's fake. No one's actually doing their jobs. And Democrats and Republicans for decades now since TV have have been like, all I need is a video of me acting like I'm working so that I can go and not work. So you'll see these videos where you're going to get a member of Congress and they're going to be standing up, going, you bigots. You're all fascists. My. Blah, blah, blah. And then the cameras turn off and they're like, all right, everybody, good seeing you today. I'm going back to my district. Hope send me that video. Need it for fundraising. That's Congress.
Phil Labonte
And that's the point of it, is to get the video for fundraising so that they can be like, look at me, I'm fighting the man. Blah, blah, blah, whatever.
Tim Pool
Because that's why they sang songs and obstructed Congress. There's no consequences for them to make a mockery of the legislative branch. I think that Speaker Johnson won't do anything.
Ian Crossland
You shouldn't be invited to censure. Future censures. We shouldn't have crowds of congressmen there.
Tim Pool
To support the guy on it. Congress is supposed to vote on who gets censured. So when the Republicans voted to censure Al Green, Democrats blocked the proceeding and sang songs.
Ian Crossland
So they all vote. Not present.
Tim Pool
And then they. And then they.
Ian Crossland
Then the censorship succeeds. They voted. They all vote.
Tim Pool
So now let me explain to you, because I think it would have really helped if you actually looked into what this is before asking us to do a thing that exactly happened. And now you can understand what the problem is. Congress shows up. Are we censuring Al Green? Yays have it. Al Green present for censure. Democrats block the proceeding and sing songs.
Ian Crossland
And so now what you do.
Tim Pool
Congress adjourned.
Ian Crossland
Now you say Al Green report for censure. No one else is coming. It's just you, Al. You're in the room with the panel, and we're going to censor you on tv.
Tim Pool
I got to. I got to. I got to stop you right there, Ian. What do you not understand about. He did not listen to Speaker Johnson.
Ian Crossland
I understand. What do you mean?
Tim Pool
What are the consequences of him saying no?
Ian Crossland
Like, no to present yourself censorship. That'd be contempt.
Tim Pool
So what you are saying now is exactly as I've described. When he was called to censure, he said no. And then I got angry because Speaker Johnson adjourned Congress and left rather than.
Ian Crossland
Arresting him for contempt or something.
Tim Pool
Holding him in contempt. Holding him in contempt, or arresting the rest of the Democrats for Obstructing or even removing them.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, remove them from the well, for sure. Remove it first.
Tim Pool
Nothing.
Ian Crossland
And if they kept banging on the walls, you have them arrested.
Tim Pool
The issue is, so long as there is no enforcement or penalty for wrongdoing, there is no real Congress.
Ian Crossland
Mike didn't want to. Mike. Mike Johnson didn't want to set a spark a civil war. He's like, oh, God, this is not the moment. I'm not going to make a pariah out of now.
Maurice the Native Patriot
I was going to say that's kind of the entire problem with what we've been experiencing. And a lot of the reason why I started speaking out in general is back in 2020, during the government lockdowns, there were. I kind of just assumed that a lot of the people that I knew, a lot of the men that I looked up to and respected, would be against the mandates. And a lot of the men that I saw and respected folded immediately. And they were wearing the mask. They were taking the jab and doing all that and saw obedience as virtue. And I realized kind of at that point in my life that I'm gonna have to stand up and. And speak out against a lot of this stuff. And it turns out that courage is contagious. But what we've had for a long time in someone like Speaker Johnson is one who's played the game for too long and doesn't have that. That kind of conviction to make the change. You know, he doesn't. He's not willing to throw them all or get them all arrested when they're clearly obstructing. And we need to put. We need to have leaders in there who are willing and who are willing to do that, because in all reality, if we continue to. To not have that conviction, if we're not trying to restore our country, like the entire message of Make America Great Again is, is to make it great again. And that means that you have to have the conviction and the willingness to put yourself out there and to. To stop proceedings like this When. When we do center someone like that to. And the Democrats are obviously obstructing it, have them arrested. It's. I mean, it's. It sounds simple, but it hasn't been that way for a long time. And we've had Republicans in office that have just been complete spineless and gutless, and they haven't stood up in any way, shape or form for the Constitution for. For years. They. They just go with it because that's just the way it's been. Is you just. Okay, I guess we'll just we'll close out and try again tomorrow instead of, you know, kick the can down the road. Somebody else is going to handle it. Another adult is going to be able to handle this. But that's, that's how we've got to this point.
Ian Crossland
I would hope if we do, if Mike, eventually Mike Johnson will be replaced. You know that's just the nature of the job. But that it's the next guy or girl is a little more if, if they are more adherent to the rules and they're willing to like you're under arrest, you're, you're being held like that kind of thing. Just don't become a villain. That's important because it's an optics game too. Like you don't want half the world to turn on you because you're too heavy handed. But I do agree with you that, that, that just did adjourning the thing was kind of dismal.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
For him to turn that off like that and not like dude you're in charge Mike. Like that was your show.
Tim Pool
Just make me speaker for one day and I will, I will clean up Congress. We'll have a bunch of. We're going to convene the, let's just call it, we'll do it on May 1st because Mayday. And it'll really irk the leftists and we'll call it the May 1st Commission. And then after we have all the Democrats arrested for obstruction, they're going to be censured. There's, there's going to be votes on expulsion, all of that stuff. And then we're going to put together a committee that will investigate them because I'm willing to bet you could easily get most of these members of Congress on fraud by find when you actually dig into how, dig into how they don't actually do their jobs and spend all their days pointing up to lobbyists for money. It's going to be fun. Let's go to Super Chats and Rumble Rants. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. My friends, my birthday was last Sunday.
Ian Crossland
Happy birthday man.
Tim Pool
Thank you very much. You want to get me a gift? Share the show right now.
Ian Crossland
I already did it.
Tim Pool
There you go. And you can also join rumble premium@rumble.com Timcast IRL. We're going to have the uncensored call and show up in about 20 minutes. Not so family friendly but always fun and funny. What do we got here? We got Chafed bm. Geez, what a name. Shut it down. So Doge can have free reign on executive records that they should already have access to. Federal judges don't have the authority during a shutdown. I just made that up like the judges make up law. It is an interesting point though, that if they shut the government down, it's possible no one's going to be working. Elon's gonna be able to go in with Doge.
Phil Labonte
It would be nice. Well, I mean, it might be good. Ostensibly, I thought that Doge being able to continue doing the work that they're doing is why there was justification to have the cr. Or that was one of the things that Trump said. Look, we, we need to make sure that we have the CR so that way Doge can, can continue to do their work. And I also heard Chip Roy talking about that too. So I'm not sure what the situation is.
Tim Pool
Your 25 says Tucker interview a known surgeon interviewed and he said that up and coming doctors are inexperienced and incompetent.
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Tim Pool
I would not disagree. This is probably the case.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, this is, this goes to the crisis of, of competency that we have been talking about for years now. You know, the, the idea that if there is, you know, before we knew how the degree of, of DEI hires that, that were going on in the government, we, we talked about, look, if this is happening, then there's going to come a point where there's going to be negative consequences in these fields that have people getting jobs that they're not qualified for. That's, that's not some kind of, of difficult thing to, to understand. It's like if you're hiring people that aren't qualified based on their identity, then eventually you're going to have a degraded service that they're supposed to be providing.
Tim Pool
Some people are. I see in the chat they're asking when my birthday was. It was Sunday. My birthday is March 9th. I am 39 years old. Nice. Dude, look at that. And here's another present you can get me. Go to timcast.com and join our Discord community. Click join us, Sign up, download the discord, get in the server and be an active participant in the fray. I don't know, man. Maybe it's a bit stressful, but there's a lot of people who are passive observers of the news who see how bad everything is, and that's all they are. Maybe you should become active. And all it takes is to send one sentence in that chat and start networking with people and we can, we can save this country.
Ian Crossland
As an active participant. You'll be surprised at the results because it's not linear. It's not. Like I said the thing. Now I'm going to get a response about the thing, and it will be solved. You'll be surprised at the opportunities that open up in your life when you become aggressively, publicly vocal about what you.
Tim Pool
I mean, there are. There are many moments where in politics, some random dude said one thing and then all of a sudden became a national headline. Remember Joe the Plumber? Like, that was a news cycle for, like a month. Because some regular guy was like, here's what I think. So if you want that opportunity and you want to share what you think, maybe that will be you. And you will, you know, you never know. You could be the person who snow throws that snowball down the hill. An idea nobody thought of. And then all of a sudden, a month later, President Trump's talking about it on TV.
Phil Labonte
90 of success is just showing up.
Tim Pool
And you missed 100 of the shots you don't take.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yep, I. I can attest to that story because, you know, I'm personally from a small town of 2500 people and didn't really have any social media up until two years ago. And I started speaking out and then. I mean, there you are. Yeah, a lot of things happen. I'm here.
Tim Pool
I am so wearing a MAGA headdress. All right, let's grab some more super chats. Fire Dog says, stop calling it Snow White. It's Snow woke Quantum strange. Quark says, did anyone notice that when Rhett McBride responded to the chairman today that he called him Madam Chairman and he didn't get upset about it? That guy who was like, how? So here's what happened. The chairman says, Mr. McBride. Then some other guy goes, oh. And then. Well, then McBride goes, thank you, Madam Chairman. Misgendering the obvious, old man. And then some other guy goes, how dare you? I refuse to participate in this minute. And I'm not kidding. That's basically what he was doing. The funny thing is that guy who lost his mind didn't get mad about McBride calling the guy madam. McBride called the old men madam. So they do it to each other. But then the one guy just virtue signals. There you go. Let's go, Devin. True, True says, corporations are making too much money off the people they need to be taxed more. Trump. Other countries are making too much off the American people. I'm going to tariff them. The left clutches their pearls and gasps. Interesting.
Ian Crossland
We should start calling Snow White Snow.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yellow, because it's just dog Yellow snow.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, I'm gonna start calling It Snow Yellow.
Tim Pool
Well, well, I mean, one of the. There's so many controversies with this movie. Oh, we didn't even get into that, did we? Maybe we'll talk a little bit about the uncensored. For one Gal Gadot, a lot of people are like, she's way more attractive than Rachel Zegler. They're also saying Snow White's skin was white as snow. It's part of the fairy tale. And they chose a olive skinned, swarthy woman.
Ian Crossland
Shocking.
Tim Pool
To play Snow White. And then apparently they're girl bossing it. So I guess she had some quotes where she was like, there's going to be some girl boss or something. And instead of doing the actual story, they're doing like her dad was. Was it. Her dad was the king or something and then she was the princess and then the king died and then I don't know.
Ian Crossland
Oh, so it's not Snow White. They just made a new movie loosely based on Snow White.
Maurice the Native Patriot
It's gonna bomb, but it's not new. It's. It's the way. It's what they do to everything, which is they adopt something that we cherish and love from our childhood and they destroy it.
Ian Crossland
And they keep the same name on it.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yes.
Ian Crossland
Like changing the owners of a corporation or changing the ingredients in a product.
Tim Pool
That's right. We're making a show for our YouTube channel called Power Rangers. It's about seven chess players who go to a chess tournament and win.
Ian Crossland
That's awesome.
Tim Pool
That's right. And they wear costumes as they do it. Oh, that's right.
Ian Crossland
Different color costumes.
Tim Pool
Yes. Yeah, there's a unique. And they all will shout out their. Their uniforms. There's the red Power Ranger and the blue and the yellow.
Ian Crossland
They're actual army Rangers, but they get.
Tim Pool
They all go to like the best.
Ian Crossland
Chess players in the army. So they get sent to the. The chess tournament.
Tim Pool
Yep.
Ian Crossland
Power. Yeah, they're like the most powerful Rangers.
Tim Pool
And then there's Rita Repulsa and that's just an ugly Asian woman who plays chess against them and tries to win. And that's just the mean name they call her.
Ian Crossland
And that was a ripoff of Voltron. Power Rangers. Do you guys remember?
Tim Pool
Actually, I could be wrong with this, but wasn't it like Power Rangers was an Asian show and what they did was the. The fight sequences were the original Asian footage. And then they filmed only half the episode. So, like.
Phil Labonte
Really?
Tim Pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure what it was is they have a show in like, they have an Asian show where they're Wearing the costumes and they're fighting. That's why you never. There's never any mouths moving or anything. And that's why when Rita would talk, her mouth never synced with the actual words that were being said. Then they would have the American half story filmed and by with Americans. And then they would just incorporate the kung fu fighting footage from Asia.
Ian Crossland
Super Sentais.
Tim Pool
That's what it was. You looked it up.
Ian Crossland
The shows are of the Toku Satsu genre.
Tim Pool
Huh?
Ian Crossland
Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of shows like that. Voltron becoming one of them. I remember Voltron from like the 80s. That was. I was a huge Voltron fan where there was like five pilots. They each piloted a colorful cat combined into this giant robot.
Phil Labonte
The lions one. Yes. I didn't like the cars one, though. There's like 20 cars that put together to make a different Voltron. Wasn't.
Ian Crossland
Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, there's that like tran. That. We're not Transformers.
Phil Labonte
It was Voltron. Absolutely. Called it Voltron and everything. Yeah.
Ian Crossland
All right. I guess it's a genre of itself. So I shouldn't say that. Power Rangers ripped off Voltron. It was a joke.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah. Apparently they're race swapping snipe.
Phil Labonte
Oh, good.
Tim Pool
And the new hbo Harry Potter. They're gonna make Snape black. Cool.
Phil Labonte
Good dude.
Ian Crossland
I mean, he's the villain. He's of house black kind of villain.
Tim Pool
What are you talking about?
Ian Crossland
Well, he starts. He's kind of like the villain.
Tim Pool
House black. What are you talking about?
Maurice the Native Patriot
Oh, spoiler alert.
Tim Pool
Are you talking about a different show?
Ian Crossland
Serious Wait, I'm thinking of Snape. Yeah, the. The Severus.
Tim Pool
Severus. Snape.
Ian Crossland
Maybe I'm mixing one of the biggest.
Tim Pool
Heroes black and Severus.
Ian Crossland
Serious Black is. Don't you know he's not involved with the school. But, but Snape is the poison teacher.
Tim Pool
Potions.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, potions. He wears black. He's like.
Tim Pool
They all wear black.
Ian Crossland
Slytherin, the snake. The Dark. Dark. He's the Dark Arts guy.
Tim Pool
Isn't it funny that in Harry Potter they have like four dorms and one is the Nazi dorm. Like, literally, like, you know, with all Due respect to J.K. rowling, it's the most overt story ever told where it's like, welcome to school, Harry. You've got good kids. Good kids. Good kids. And the Nazi room. Like, but, but seriously, it's like you have a whole. You have a whole dorm in your. In your. In your. In your. Your private boarding school where they're all known to be racial purists.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Or their blue eyes. Did any good guys right on the nose.
Ian Crossland
Were there any good kids that got.
Tim Pool
No Slytherin? And how about this? How about how crazy it is that in the. In the last. In the last movie? It's been so long since I read the book, but I'm assuming It's same thing. McGonagall is like, so the castle's under attack. And she goes, would you please put the other students from Slytherin in the dungeons? It's like, yo, lady, come on. Like, these students are just in the dorm you put them in and now you're ordering them all in the dungeon. That's what they did.
Ian Crossland
It's like Japanese internment.
Tim Pool
Yeah, Stuff.
Ian Crossland
Hey, I like Snape. He was one of my favorite characters. He's probably my favorite character in the entire.
Tim Pool
I have. I have a really good idea for J.K. rowling. I hope she hears this. What really irks me about things like Harry Potter is it's always Hitler. It's like, we get it. You basically wrote a story about magic Hitler. Okay. And he comes back. And I. I do want to mention this meme too, as we're Voldemort, though, right?
Phil Labonte
That's Voldemort.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Magic killer. So the. The funny thing about it is, I saw this funny meme and they were like, voldemort is literally the worst villain of, like, any. Any story. And then someone responded with like, what are you talking about? He's like a gifted. And they're like, bro, he. He tried using advanced magic to kill a baby. He could have literally just dropped it on the floor. Like, he walks up to baby Harry and he's like, babies are fragile. And Voldemort's like, let me use his complicated. He could have just like, he could have just picked it up and dropped it.
Ian Crossland
Pillow. Yeah. Tons of different ways he could have been creative and.
Tim Pool
And you know, he loses. But my idea is, you know, it's always Hitler. Right? Voldemort is basically magic Hitler. Like, we must have pure blooded wizards. And it's like, okay, we get it, dude. You know what they need is they need magic Stalin. That's what I'm saying.
Phil Labonte
So I want to hear more.
Tim Pool
Here's my pitch. My pitch is the next series because she did like the. The. The. What is it? The cursed child or whatever. Boring. And then they did the. The. The weird animals one. Stupid. No, no, here's what it is. I want you to imagine this. Remember that Great hall scene in Hogwarts and they're doing the sorting cap and all the kids are giggling and it's like the hat is like Gryffindor. And they're like, everyone's cheering now, right when that happens, a bunch of grenades burst through the windows, land on the ground and start flashbanging. Boom, boom, boom. And a bunch of special forces guys drop down with machine with like rifles and just start blasting the professors with guns. And then the professors are all panicking and trying to like use magic but the magic won't work on the dudes. And then the story here is you've got non magic people who know in the, in the book they're called squibs and have been working with governments to expose the existence of magic of the magic world because they believe that some people having magic and some not is oppression and that magic people oppress the unmagic people. And so they're trying to bring about a one world, no magic utopia where everyone is equal.
Ian Crossland
You find out the ringleaders are actually magicians. Later in the movie you find, oh yeah, totally, yeah.
Tim Pool
All the leaders of the party who are like, we are equal. And every. Nobody should have. If, if there is anybody without magic, then no one should have it. And then they all have magic. That's a good story that actually, I'm.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Telling you, that actually might work.
Tim Pool
And, and then it's cool because it's modernized and it's for an older audience where you literally have like Special forces dudes. Like one guy's got his hand on the other guy's shoulder and they have the guns pointed and they're just blasting professors at Hogwarts. And like, what, what do they do about, you know, like getting shot? They're like trying to put up shields but they're just, they're getting shot.
Ian Crossland
It'd be a good scene where he's like, try. He's got the guy's behind him. Like he's got him. He's like. He's like trying to cast a spell but he's stuttering like the wizard can't get out because he's so afraid. That'd be funny.
Tim Pool
To be fair. Did they ever actually address that in Harry Potter? I know that there was like in the very beginning the Harry's uncle like points a shotgun at Hagrid and he like grabs it and bends it. But did they ever actually address any of, any of them using guns? Like, how much of their problems would have been solved if Harry just like bought a gun? Look, I mean, look. No, no. Like, let's Be serious. Like, they give children what is a thousand times more deadly than a gun? There was that part of the story where. Where exactly. And they can kill with them. So it's like all the kids are running around with loaded weapons based. Anyway, we had super chats. I'm saying I'm going to. I want to make that movie, actually. Maybe we should do a short film.
Ian Crossland
That's very cool. That's very funny.
Tim Pool
The US government, like, you mean to tell me the US government doesn't know these people exist? Of course they do. They got the nsa. They're spying on them.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Do you know what's up? You think that's kind of the same thing as, like. But how the. The X Men universe handled it with the. The school of mutants?
Tim Pool
Like, in what way?
Maurice the Native Patriot
How they integrated it with. With.
Tim Pool
I'm pretty sure everybody knew the school of mutants existed because mutants were like a big contentious debate in X Men. There's.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah, right.
Tim Pool
So the. The In. In Harry Potter. Nobody outside of the wizarding world knows about magic people. It's all a big secret. It's like a crime to reveal them.
Ian Crossland
Were the X Men well known?
Tim Pool
Yes.
Ian Crossland
Did they become well known over the course of the comics?
Tim Pool
The whole time?
Phil Labonte
X Men.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
They already knew. Xavier was public about everything.
Tim Pool
That's. That's basically the. The early premise was Magneto was like, I am an evil mutant and this is my brotherhood of evil mutants. And actually call themselves that. And then later on they were like, maybe we need a little bit more dimension to our villains. So then they tried doing this Malcolm X Martin Luther King Jr. Thing where Xavier is public about his fight for mutant rights and Magneto is antifa. I'm gonna burn everything down and take everything over.
Ian Crossland
There's a great storyline. Yeah, I like that storyline a lot because, like, I just. It's deep. Like you start to see the villain psychology and you're like, well, I get it. Why he's like that.
Tim Pool
Well, the Magneto literally called his organization the Brotherhood of Evil.
Ian Crossland
So funny, so cheap. No one would do that. Everybody thinks they're the good guy. I think maybe people realize they're the bad guys.
Tim Pool
Yeah, some people do. But that's why I really like the character Victor Zaz in D.C. you know? You know, he is no serial killer. That's it.
Ian Crossland
Is he a hero or anything? Is he got serial powers?
Tim Pool
No, that's it.
Ian Crossland
What's so good about him?
Tim Pool
It's a well written character. He's literally just a serial killer. He's an evil guy. Who knows? He's a murderer and he's. He carves a notch in his body when he kills people. So you can have these one dimensional villains who are like, I can shoot cold blasts from my hands and I'm evil. Or you can have a guy who's literally just evil. But there's dimension to that character of evilness. He's a serial killer and he's driven to murder. Like some serial killers are. Yeah, Batman's an idiot, by the way.
Ian Crossland
Why?
Tim Pool
Like, dude, how many times has Joker murdered people? And Batman's like, it's too bad. It's like, bro, at a certain point you're allowed to defend other people. And then you have the whole injustice story arc where Joker poisons Superman and super and then detonates a nuke in Metropolis, killing everybody. And while Superman is hallucinating, he beats his wife, his pregnant wife to death. And then what happens is Superman tells, says to Batman, like, if you just stopped this man that you knew was an insane, deranged murderer, none of this would have happened. And then Superman becomes authoritarian, Wild. Yeah. Anyway.
Ian Crossland
And Batman's like, he's my cash crop, baby. No one will buy my comics if I kill him.
Tim Pool
No, like, Batman's like, no, you can't kill. It's wrong. And it's like, bro, your government is literally letting this guy out every day. Or like over and over.
Ian Crossland
At Arkham, do they not have like, like capital punishment at Arkham? Is it.
Tim Pool
It's not even that. Do they not have like.
Ian Crossland
It's not a prison, it's an asylum.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Have you seen that new animated series called Invincible?
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been watching that one.
Maurice the Native Patriot
They're kind of working through that. Oh yeah, there's an entire system right now. I think it's tomorrow. I'm excited.
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's pretty good. It's an old comic. It's a. It's not super. It's like 20 year old comic. So for those that are watching it, you can literally just read it and you know, know what's going to happen.
Ian Crossland
Who's it based on?
Tim Pool
Invincible.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it's a guy.
Tim Pool
So you know. Yeah. So the problem with most stuff they do today in superheroes, it's all derivative. So in Invincible, it's basically just a guy was like, let's take the DC Universe and change everybody's name and then I'll write my take on it. And it's like, yeah, I guess, whatever.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Is it a little bit, you know, more gory and.
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's more brutal. Yeah, but come up with some original superheroes and stuff.
Ian Crossland
Oh, psychic gorilla dude.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah, there were some straight up.
Tim Pool
Like, they're all knockoffs.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Every character is a knockoff.
Ian Crossland
Like, I'm trying. What's. What's is a psychic gorilla is kind of unique, but, I mean, you get the cosmic creatures that come down with.
Tim Pool
Something about Gorilla Grodd.
Ian Crossland
Gorilla Grodd is what it's called in dc. Is he space gorilla that comes down to Earth?
Tim Pool
No, that's what I'm.
Ian Crossland
Gorilla.
Tim Pool
Okay, Ian, tell me. Tim, there's so much you need to learn.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Gorilla Grodd is from Guerrilla City, and he's a villain and he's psychic, and he can control people's minds. And Guerrilla city is basically DC's version of Wakanda, but I guess it's more racist or something because everybody in that secret African city is. Is. Is gorillas. So I don't know what's up with that. That seems wrong.
Ian Crossland
Marvel as an enemy of the Flash.
Tim Pool
You know that's true at Guerrilla City.
Phil Labonte
I believe you.
Tim Pool
It's. It's super intelligent. Gorillas have a hidden city just like Wakanda in the exact same way, with a barrier that protects it and keeps it hidden.
Ian Crossland
Gorillas.
Tim Pool
But they're gorillas instead. So imagine, like, Marvel's like, there's Wakanda, and it's this bl. It's this African nation that's got advanced technology. And then DC goes, yeah, but they're gorillas.
Ian Crossland
I know.
Tim Pool
Okay, dude.
Ian Crossland
Or a city of. A city of rats. But they're wherever you think they would go. That's, like, really in New York?
Tim Pool
Sewers.
Ian Crossland
I was thinking over. I don't even want to say it. Middle east somewhere. Yeah. It's rat people instead.
Tim Pool
Wow. Wow, Ian.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. That's how you get away with it.
Tim Pool
I was gonna say New York. That's where all the rats are.
Ian Crossland
But keeping it clean.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Anyway, let's talk about something else. I guess.
Ian Crossland
I'm talking about comics.
Tim Pool
Angry marsupial says, I played Civ 4 while watching the show almost every night. Pinnacle of the series.
Ian Crossland
Yep.
Tim Pool
Can't have fashion without Communism. Can't build Mount Rushmore without fascism. Figure that one out. That is funny. But the Mount Rushmore one doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I guess it's related to. They're looking at timelines when they developed the game.
Ian Crossland
We were also pretty fascist in the 20s.
Tim Pool
Civ 4 was when they had Leonard Nimoy. Right?
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yeah. That's the best game.
Ian Crossland
It Was it? Was they. I think it's where religion got introduced.
Tim Pool
Colonization. The original colonization from on Ms. DOS is one of the best games ever made and still to this day is one of the best games.
Ian Crossland
Just called Colonization.
Tim Pool
Yeah, so they remade it off of the Civ 4 engine, but that's lame. The OG Ms. DOS colonization game to this day is still great. It's like a. It's a turn based strategy game where you can choose to be British, French, Dutch or Spanish. Each different European nation gets a. It's a bonus. The. If you choose English, not British. Sorry, English you get. It's easier to get immigrants to want to join. Spanish get a bonus to killing Native Americans. Yeah. The French get a bonus of trading with Native Americans. There we go. And the Dutch get a trade bonus with Europe. So usually I just pick either. You know, if you pick the Spanish, it's great because you just. You bring your caraval to the New World and then just start blasting the Native American tribes and they drop treasure. Oh, you loot and ransack. And when you find the Inca, baby. Oh man, the Inca and the Aztec, they got gold for days.
Ian Crossland
This is a good one for you. Totally racist.
Maurice the Native Patriot
It sounds like a fun game, guys.
Tim Pool
But you colonize my ancestors, recruit founding fathers and then you generate sentiment for independence. You can trade you, you, you. You produce crops in the, in the colonies, sail back to Europe and sell it, build up your country and then you can declare independence. And then whatever country you pick, they try to come and stop you. And then you get some intervention from another country. And if you win, then you can sign the declaration.
Ian Crossland
Is it a mod based off a mod of Civ 4?
Tim Pool
No, it's Sid Meier actually made. It's. It's basically. I think it's based off what, like Civ 2 or something? No, no, Civ 1.
Ian Crossland
Oh, is it? I'm reading about it now.
Tim Pool
Like a modification of Civ 1, I think. Epic game. And it's got fun little flute music from the colonial era.
Ian Crossland
I used to play a Civ one.
Tim Pool
All right, let's grab one more. We got eyes open. Canada says re Laura Grace. We have seen so many artists turn tail when we really needed them. Influential lyrics turned into hypocrisy. Shameful. Union Jacks af Matt Lillard makes SLC and hackers worth it. For those who don't know, Laura Jane Grace is the lead singer formally of Against Me, which I believe is defunct. Against Me was basically the Like Punk It Band in 2001 or 2002. Everybody I knew was in the punk had the acoustic EP as well as reinventing Axl Rose and at the time Lord Jane Grace was a man by the name of Tom Gable and now transitioned. What happened was, if you didn't see the story, performed at a Democrat rally singing a song about God's dick and being rather vulgar and crass with it. And it's really sad because the original a lot of the there were a lot of naive lyrics because it's just. It's punk. Baby I'm An Anarchist is one of the famous songs, but some of them are actually like just really great folk punk songs. Like one of the lyrics is street faces all blend into one. They ask for spare change and then am I just effed up because I've forgotten what it's like or whatever. I don't know. I'm not thinking the lyrics right now, but basically telling the story of I forgotten where I've come from. The lyrics work really well now. This person is just old, out of touch and singing some vulgar song for a Democrat rally. But what really makes it funny is in the song Baby I'm an Anarchist, one of the lines is you have faith in the elephant and the jackass. And to use solidarity is a four letter word. Really, really funny to see the lead singer now performing for Democrats at a rally. And I describe that as a hilarious SLC punk ending for the legacy of Against Me. We're gonna go to the uncensored show over at Rumble, my friends. Rumble.com Timcast IRL. Don't miss it. Make sure you smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. You can become a member at of our discord@timcast.com if you'd like to call in, get in, talk to people or go to Tim Cast Premium, which will sign you up for Rumble Premium right there on the spot. 10 bucks off with promo code TIM10. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Native Patriot. You want to shout anything out, go.
Maurice the Native Patriot
Ahead and follow me at Law Native Patriot, that's LA Native Patriot and the Patriots Prayer Network on Rumble. You can just look it up that way. And maybe my wife, Lady Patriot, she's a big part of the reason why I'm here and and everything that I fight for.
Ian Crossland
So rather than that, you are accomplishing your dreams and I'm happy to be here with you while you do it, man. I'm Ian Cross and we're gonna pivot over to Rumble, so follow us over there. If you're not over there yet, rumble.com timcast IRL I believe is the channel. I haven't timcast IRL we've locked that in and see you there. Bye.
Phil Labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm fill that remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. Our new record dropped on January 31st. It's called Anti Fragile. It's available on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
Tim Pool
We will see you all over@rumble.com Timcast IRL for that uncensored show. Well, about 30 seconds. We'll see you there. Sa.
Timcast IRL Episode Summary: "Government SHUTDOWN IMMINENT, Democrats Vow To BLOCK Trump CR w/The Native Patriot"
Release Date: March 13, 2025
Overview
In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool delves into pressing political and cultural issues, providing an independent perspective on the imminent government shutdown, Democratic opposition to President Trump's continuing resolution (CR), and the broader implications for American governance. The discussion features insights from guests including Maurice the Native Patriot, Phil Labonte, and Ian Crossland, who contribute to the analysis of government actions, lobbying efforts, and cultural shifts.
Tim Pool opens the episode by addressing the looming government shutdown, citing Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's announcement that Democrats will block the GOP-passed funding bill. Pool expresses skepticism about Republicans' ability to secure the necessary 60 votes to overcome the filibuster, implying that the shutdown is likely inevitable.
Phil Labonte adds that Democrats aim to blame Republicans for the shutdown to highlight what he perceives as Republican mismanagement.
Ian Crossland and Phil discuss past shutdowns, noting the significant impacts on government operations and public perception.
The episode shifts focus to West Virginia's legislature passing a ban on artificial food dyes, championed by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. Tim Pool highlights the lobbying efforts by major soda companies to overturn the ban, framing it as a pivotal battle in promoting healthier food consumption.
Maurice the Native Patriot emphasizes the potential for this movement to spark nationwide conversations about food safety and consumer health.
Tim Pool reports on the tragic murder of an Infowars reporter, followed by two swatting incidents targeting the network. This segment underscores the heightened tensions and dangers faced by independent media outlets.
The host critiques Disney's cancellation of the red carpet for the new Snow White film, arguing that the company is infusing overt political messages into traditionally neutral narratives.
A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies, specifically an incident involving leaked audio of a DEI activist sharing air traffic controller exam answers with minority candidates. The panel debates the efficacy and ethics of preferential hiring practices and the broader impact on meritocracy.
The conversation delves deep into ideological discourse, contrasting communism with liberalism and critiquing the current state of the Democratic Party. Panelists argue that liberalism lacks a coherent structure, making it susceptible to internal conflicts and external manipulations.
Tim Pool expresses frustration with what he perceives as the Democratic Party's lack of unified ideology and its reliance on Republican missteps to advance its own agenda.
The panel discusses recent attacks on Tesla dealerships, framing them as manifestations of leftist extremist behavior. Phil Labonte and Maurice draw parallels to historical left-wing violence, suggesting a resurgence of radical tactics.
A heated segment focuses on the censure of Congressman Al Green, where Democrats allegedly obstructed the proceedings by singing and avoiding enforcement actions. The panelists criticize Speaker Mike Johnson for not taking decisive steps to uphold congressional standards.
Maurice the Native Patriot emphasizes the need for stronger leadership to address obstruction and maintain governmental integrity.
Interspersed throughout the episode are references to pop culture phenomena such as Power Rangers and Harry Potter. These segments serve as metaphors for broader societal issues, illustrating how political and cultural narratives intersect.
Towards the end, Tim Pool and his guests promote Timcast IRL's presence on platforms like Rumble, encouraging listeners to engage through memberships, Discord, and social media channels.
Conclusion
This episode of Timcast IRL offers a robust critique of current political maneuvers, lobbying efforts against health-conscious legislation, and the perceived decline of institutional integrity within Congress. Through spirited discussions and pointed analysis, Tim Pool and his guests advocate for greater transparency, accountability, and public engagement to navigate the nation's challenges.
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Disclaimer: The views expressed in this summary reflect those presented by Tim Pool and his guests during the episode and do not necessarily represent factual accuracy or unbiased reporting.