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Adam Salinas (5:26)

Thank you so much for having me, man. My name is Adam and I go by Grace unfiltered on all of my social media platforms. Appreciate you for flying me in, man.

Tim Pool (5:35)

Right on. What's your, what's your thing? What do you do?

Adam Salinas (5:37)

So I, I have a platform that we talk faith, politics and kind of, you know, news around the world. And it all started, you know, kind of back in 2014. I mainly talked about faith and when I had all of these individuals that I had met over the years started to ask me certain questions about some of the propositions that were coming into law in the state of California, instead of a answering the same question 20, 30, 40 different times, I started doing a post about it. And now we're here, you know, right on.

Tim Pool (6:04)

We got whatever this is.

Ian Crossland (6:07)

That's how I, that's how I feel every morning I wake up to. I was inspired by all the hat wearers in the house.

Tim Pool (6:12)

I think you were just inspired by Guns N Roses.

Ian Crossland (6:14)

Carter's the only one not wearing a hat. I'm heavily inspired by Appetite for Destruction.

Tate Brown (6:18)

By the way.

Ian Crossland (6:18)

If you don't know the album, get it. Have you heard it?

Tim Pool (6:20)

Probably.

Ian Crossland (6:21)

Oh, dude, it is the best. If you want to know why where rock and roll came from, why the 90s were awesome, listen to Appetite for Destruction. It is the answer. And you can follow me at Ian Crossland. I also want to shout out Alex Stein's Big Booty.

Tim Pool (6:34)

What is this called?

Ian Crossland (6:35)

Big Booty Latina Love Potion. I'm drinking it right now. It's excellent. It's a Casper's newest coffee spectacular. It was so good that I had to bring it in and do a a post of my own about it. So go get it@casper.com if you haven't yet.

Tim Pool (6:46)

Alex Stein is not a doctor. Alex Stein.

Ian Crossland (6:48)

Yeah, it says this is actually guaranteed to spice things up in the bedroom. But also, there's a caveat that is not guaranteed to spice things up in the bedroom.

Tate Brown (6:54)

Say there's. I'll feel a little tension in the table right now because you're sipping on that.

Ian Crossland (6:59)

It's getting. It's getting like.

Tim Pool (7:00)

Well, it's all guys in here, Tate, so I don't know what you're thinking.

Tate Brown (7:02)

Jeez Louise, that's. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, that's why I throw the hat on when, like, we're getting too close to, like, I need to get a haircut, and then the hat just stays on.

Ian Crossland (7:10)

Your beard looks nice today.

Tate Brown (7:11)

I don't know what's. Like. Everything's getting wacky and wild. Phil's just raw dog in the show, right?

Phil Avanti (7:15)

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Avanti. I'm the leads here. The heavy metal met. All that remains. My name's I Communist and of a kind, counter revolutionary.

Carter Banks (7:20)

What's up, Carter G. Man, I really got to get a thing that's really fast like yours. I do not have a hat on today, but I'm going to get one because Ian has inspired me. I'm here pushing the buttons. Precious show, and I'm pumped. Thanks for coming out, man. Let's get into it.

Tim Pool (7:32)

Here's a story from nonstop local Tri Cities Yakima. Because it was the only outlet that I could find that actually centered the story around the winner of the race, Brandon Herrera. It says, Republican Brandon Herrera advances to primary runoff election in Texas's 23rd Congressional District 4, for which there is a single sentence which says, republican Brennan Herrera advances to primary runoff in election in Texas 23rd congressional district. See, the reason I opted for this nonstop local Tri Cities Yakima NBC page is because literally every other outlet they title their stories, like Gonzalez heads to runoff amid allegations of affair with aid in a tight primary race with conservative challenger Brandon Herrera. I would argue, indeed, it is not a tight race, as Brandon Herrera one handily. However, in. We got to scroll down here on this website. In Texas, you've got to get at least 50%. So, okay, fair, fair, fair. It is relatively tight. It's less than a thousand votes, but Brenner won. And so the headline should be either Gonzalez defeated by Brenner Hera. However, they will both go to a runoff. Every headline acts like Brennan Herrera, who I'm going to argue is substantially more famous than Tony Gonzalez. This is. This is what really irks me. Okay? This is. This is the reality of the establishment media and the machine state of this country. By any metric, Brandon Herrera is more famous than Tony Gonzalez. He's got millions of followers, and I'm not saying that to disparage Tony Gonzalez, but Tony Gonzalez is like a rank and file member of Congress in his district. He's probably moderately well known. But I guarantee you, if you go to any random place in the country and ask them, do you know who Brandon Herrera is? Do you know Tony Gonzalez is, you're going to get more people saying, Brandon Herrera. He's a big YouTuber. So that's why it irks me when he wins. He's more famous. And then you see all the media act like he doesn't matter, because these people don't want to give air or space to anyone who would challenge that machine. So outside of that, we got a lot to talk about because Jasmine Crockett got fired and Dan Crenshaw got fired as well. So, I mean, are we looking at. Well, I will. I got to throw. Throw in the mix. Okay. Lower Republican turnout than Democrat. How are you guys feeling about all this?

Phil Avanti (9:52)

So I think that it's. It's. It's kind of not a surprise that Crenshaw got beat, honestly. Um, he's looked at as a swamp creature. If you look at his history when it comes to stock trading, he's done a lot of things that people consider insider trading. He's made a lot of money in. In the stock market since he's been in Congress. It's fairly well known. I think that the. The MAGA base kind of looks at him and says, no, he's just a, you know, boilerplate swamp creature, and we want to get. Get him out and get someone else in.

Tate Brown (10:22)

Yeah. I mean, Crenshaw is literally the worst. I think everyone knew that at. It got to the point where we were all like, maybe we owe Pete Davidson an apology. Like, that actually, that kind of was a funny joke when you think about it. Like, it got so bad, so good riddance.

Tim Pool (10:36)

Well, he had a.

Phil Avanti (10:37)

He had a lot of. A lot of. You know, there were a lot of people that were looking to give him a chance when he first got in, because he's a former Navy seal, you know, because of. Because of his pedigree and stuff. And. And he just totally wasted it and totally blew it.

Tate Brown (10:48)

Yeah, the GOP was a lot softer when he came in, too. And then he just, like, ended up being this really, like, catty, vindictive guy. Like, I don't even know how much of it really was his politics. More so than it was just his personality was just like, he would crash out all the time. He was really like a, like a, like a gay guy. The way he behaved.

Carter Banks (11:06)

Like a curmudgeon.

Tate Brown (11:07)

Yeah, he was always just like freaking out on people and he's always like trying to settle scores. And the way he like tweeted was just like made you feel gross.

Phil Avanti (11:15)

I patch McCain was very accurate for him.

Tate Brown (11:17)

Yeah, there's a lot of great nicknames for him.

Tim Pool (11:19)

So sad though, because when he, when he got in, he was so promising. Everyone was, was, was excited.

Ian Crossland (11:23)

Yeah, he was awesome. I thought he was going to be the guy that spoke truth to power, because he kind of did at the

Tate Brown (11:28)

beginning, but I feel like a lot of people didn't even know about him until the Pete Davidson thing.

Ian Crossland (11:32)

What year?

Tim Pool (11:33)

Well, I will say this. The politicos, the space that I was in when he won, we were like, let's go, big deal. A new breed of better Republicans to challenge the machine state.

Ian Crossland (11:44)

And then what happened?

Tim Pool (11:45)

Combat veteran guy, right? He's going to get in there and he's going to whip these suits into shape. We had these pencil neck DC guys who've never seen a fight in their lives. Crenshaw comes in. We were stoked. And then he did nothing to kill Tucker Carlson.

Tate Brown (11:57)

Yeah. Shout out to Steven Edgington.

Adam Salinas (12:00)

I think it's one of those things that he ended up becoming the very product that we were trying to get out of office to where not every great individual with a great pedigree is meant for leadership. They were great in their field, but when they transitioned to this place of power, you're trying to vote for anything and everything that opposes that other party, even if it's far right and far right in the moment, seemed like the perfect answer. But then as years went on and that clash begins to diminish over the years now you realize like, oh, shoot, this probably wasn't the right guy to, to run things, you know, regardless of how many consecutive turns he was doing. I think it's about time that Republicans are seeing. You know what it's not. It's not about having that far left, far right narrative. It's about finding where conservatives were supposed to be the entire time.

Phil Avanti (12:49)

Yeah, I think that makes a lot

Tim Pool (12:50)

of sense in Iran.

Ian Crossland (12:52)

Did it, did it Covid drive Dan Crenshaw insane? Because he was normal at first, kind of a badass. Then he got real quiet for a couple years and I didn't hear from him. And then he started bitching non stop.

Tim Pool (13:01)

Maybe, maybe there was like a Deep State guy who somehow got access to Crenshaw's browser history. Like, knocks on his door and says, Mr. Crenshaw. And he's like, hey, man, I'm not going to listen to you Deep State guys. And he's like, here's a list of your browser history. And says, I will say anything you want.

Ian Crossland (13:16)

Oh, did he get blackmailed?

Tim Pool (13:17)

I'm kidding.

Phil Avanti (13:18)

But maybe someone's going to tell people what's actually behind the batch.

Tate Brown (13:21)

Yeah, I think he's just, like, a ladder climber, because, like, you. I remember when he. When he first came and everyone's, like, getting all hyped. They were just going back to what he. His statements were on, like, the initial Trump run. And he was like, pearl clutching over Trump's, like, comments on Muslims. He's like, this is so hateful. Like, we can't. Americans. We're better than this. So I was like, this guy clearly was a ladder climber. And typically, when you're a ladder climber, you're actually really good at, like, hiding your cards. But he's terrible at. He has the worst poker face in politics. Like, that's like, what I led with is he's literally melting down all the time. I've never seen him happy before. Like, he's always just like. Like, mad, freaking out. Just, like, good. And I think, honestly, his constituents probably don't even know anything about his politics. They're just sick of his attitude.

Phil Avanti (14:01)

Yeah, I mean, like, so just.

Tate Brown (14:03)

I just can't stand.

Tim Pool (14:04)

This is a light taste of what's to come this year with the midterm elections. And, you know, it's going to get real spicy towards the end of summer because the Democrats came out in force. The turnout was very, very good for Democrats. Republicans were down by, like, 20%. So a lot of Republicans are sounding the alarm saying, like, guys, if we can't get turnout, especially when you're trying to get, like, Ken Paxton to win, to beat Cornyn and. And Herrera to beat Gonzalez, I mean, come on. Like, these. These elections very, very much mattered. And although I would say it turned out very well on the Republican side, the turnout was relatively low. So end of summer, Democrats are going to be coming out screaming and bashing their faces against the table that the apocalypse is happening. You know, so. So we've got. In the. In our. In our newsroom, we're running that channel where it's like, it's not. It's not a channel. It's four channels at once. So you can see, I guess what do they have pulled up? Sports. Like the top left is some sport channel. I don't know, you guys watch football or something. But then you got Fox, Ms. Now and CNN and it was absolutely hilarious. Before the show started, Ms. Now's Chiron was hegseth says something like talking about dead troops makes Trump look bad or something like this. Which is like, he definitely didn't say. And then Fox was like, Democrats endorse murder or something, not even kidding. And then CNN was like more missile strikes in Riyadh or whatever, something like that. And I just thought it was absolutely hilarious to see the state of media in this country right now. But I would argue that Fox News hyper partisan Democrats endorse, you know, illegal immigrant crime or something like this. And it's like, I get it. Like, okay, it's hyperbolic, but technically it's true. Hegseth saying that stop claiming that people should stop talking about dead troops doesn't make Trump look bad. That literally never happened.

Tate Brown (15:50)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (15:51)

And so like the right is, you know, if watching Fox News, you're going to be biased. You know, you're getting information bias against Democrats. Bias, but opinionated and true. Hyperbolic perhaps. And Ms. Now is just lying about what's going on. Imagine what it's going to be like in August when we're a couple of months out from the midterms and this is the Democrats opportunity to put an end to Trump once and for all. Because this is it for him. This is his last, his last opportunity. If the Democrats win the midterms, they know they are going to jam a crowbar in the gears and then just lock everything up. So they are gonna be going out in massive force screaming that the world is ending. And my point on the Ms. Now thing is you think that headline is crazy, wait till you see what they pull out. Like Donald Trump will go to pet a dog and they'll speed it up 200% and it says Donald Trump repeatedly strikes dog. It's gonna be nuts. It's gonna be absolutely insane.

Phil Avanti (16:44)

I mean, nowadays it's gonna be just AI photos of the same thing or videos of the same thing.

Tate Brown (16:48)

Yeah, well, you also, you're gonna get this negative feedback loop. Cause like I don't like the inside baseball for how political media works is really the summer before the election cycle is when the money starts flooding in. So you're going to get a negative feedback loop where some money starts coming in. Ms. Now start saying like, hey, if we don't win this election, it's all over. All These donors are going to freak out and start pouring more and more money. And so this is going to be like the most expensive midterm cycle. Not just on the election side, but in the media side as well.

Phil Avanti (17:12)

You think that the, the big donors are going to give money to the people that are, you know, that are essentially calling all rich people the evil and you think they're still going to open up their pocketbooks books for that

Tate Brown (17:22)

because they'd think they're the exception.

Phil Avanti (17:24)

Well, what wasn't Bernie Sanders campaigns mostly funded by small donors and stuff?

Tate Brown (17:29)

Yeah, yeah. So like. But that's kind of rare. I mean like another example is the Herrera versus No, no, no.

Tim Pool (17:34)

It was all millionaires and billionaires, but they only gave 20 bucks. Yeah, I'm kidding. It wasn't. It was mostly like working class, middle class people.

Tate Brown (17:40)

And the, the Herrera Gonzalez race is another example where Herrera like was mostly. Actually I think it was entirely small, small donors and Gonzalez was like all institutional. But, but this is the thing that sucks is the reason that Gonzalez was so close, cause he's like literally has the most skeletons in his claws that we can look right at him in the eyes is because the cash on hand he had was still far, far surpassed Herrera. So it's like we're still playing in the old school game.

Phil Avanti (18:01)

The point that I'm making is the people that are running for Congress, the energy with the left now is really on the far left and they've made it clear that they look.

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Phil Avanti (18:44)

Look at wealthy people as the enemy. I just wonder if wealthy people that generally write the big checks to PACs and stuff. I wonder if they're going to open their pocketbooks when, when people like Bernie Sanders and Ro Khanna are talking about, you know, wealth taxes or taxes on your, your property right now, people are, have already started to leave California just because that is on the ballot. The, the pot. It seems like it's a popular ballot measure and it might pass, but at the same time when, when the wealthy people are like, yo, we can't do this. Are, are they really going to write checks for people that are going to

Adam Salinas (19:15)

I think, I think they're going to continue to write those checks because it's all a part of the grand scheme of things because they'll end up with someone like Mamdani in New York and will continue to fund this whole, this whole spiel. Right now they're using this as bait that we gotta tax the rich. We gotta tax the rich. Those rich, rich donors that are donating to those Democratic parties are gonna continue to do this because their next candidate is gonna run on phase of tax the rich. And it's going to happen like every single other time, the trickle effect. But it will continue to come down.

Phil Avanti (19:47)

But the evidence, the evidence coming out of California is that they don't. They leave, they go, they try to get, get away from that.

Tate Brown (19:53)

To Tim's point, like this sounds so cliche at this point, but TDS really does Trump everything else because you have to think for these billionaires. They legitimately think Trump is going to exterminate the United States as it stands. So that Trumps everything else they're willing to risk it on like them potentially getting taxed more if it means keeping Trump out. And this happens from the center left all the way to the far. Look at Bill Kristol. Bill Kristol's wet. He has wet dreams every night of bombing Iran. He literally dreams and salivates about bombing Iran. It's all he wants to see before he dies is burning flesh in Iran. Trump bombs Iran. All of a sudden he's like, you know, Trump is committing like a war crime here and like he's actually like not following the rule of international law. So it's like every single one of these people, they're like lifelong dream, they will over the Trump patriot will overcome that. But the time.

Phil Avanti (20:34)

But Bill Kristol is a swamp monster.

Tate Brown (20:37)

Bill Crystal is still left center.

Phil Avanti (20:39)

He may be left center, but he's not a business person that's a billionaire that's writing the massive checks.

Tate Brown (20:44)

Bill Kristol will cut a check to Mamdani if it means keeping Trump out of office.

Tim Pool (20:47)

Probably. Well, let's jump to the story. We got this from CBS News House ethics committee to investigate Rep. Tony Gonzalez over allegations of affair with aide who died by suicide. For those are not familiar, uh, this is the guy that Brandon Herrera is running against. He cheated on his wife with a woman who then killed herself. And I, you know, I'm gonna say this. There is, there are details about the story. Everybody in the Beltway knows we're here in D.C. basically. And so we hear all these Rumors which, for which, you know, I can address a little bit. I don't and I'm careful because I don't know what exactly is true. But everybody's got a similar story. However, I will stress there are some people who think it wasn't suicide. And I'm going to go ahead and say that at least the conversation in the Beltway and what we know from the press is that the staffer who died did die by suicide. That being said, I don't know exactly and I want to stress this there, there are some people that think it's more nefarious, as it were, in that Tony Gonzalez, the implication they're trying to make, we see some of these rumors running is that he, he's going to lose his election if it comes out that's having an affair. The woman's having an affair with is then found immolated. She says her dying breath I don't want to die. And people immediately take that as somebody tried to silence her. Now I got this. Douglas Mackey tweeted this out. She committed suicide by lighting herself on fire. When she was found heavily burned and pleading for water, her last words were I don't want to die. 100 of those who attempt to commit suicide but somehow miraculous survived. Usually they jumped off a bridge or tried to overdose have reported regretting it. Life is precious. And it's true. He has this from the story. It says Santos Avil was regional district director for Rep. Gonzalez, a Republican Rep. Representing Texas 23rd District. She joined his staff in November of 2021. Her mother, Nora Ann Gonzalez, previously told the San Antonio Express News that her daughter was upset on the night of September 13th because her 8 year old son was spending the weekend with his father, Santos Aviles Avila, how you pronounce it? And her husband had separated and were sharing parental responsibilities, her mother said. Sensing her daughter's distress, Gonzalez said she went to the home that night to find Santos Aviles burned and pleading for water. The last thing she said is I don't want to die. So when this story came out, tons of people were saying like it kind of sounds like somebody was killed, that somebody was lit on fire. And what I will say is this. The story that's been circulating in the Beltway is that she calls him on the phone threatening to kill herself unless he drops everything and comes to see her. And he's like, get out of here, crazy lady. So on the phone she dumps fuel on herself and then screams like, I'll do it. I'll do it. And again, I don't know that any of this is true. These are just rumors that are circulating. And then here's the thing people need to understand, okay? They think that in order to light fuel, you have to press flame to the fuel. That is not correct. The fuel itself is not flammable. It is the fumes that are flammable. And so, again, I don't know if this is true, but the rumors that have been circulating is that she snapped a lighter or something. She, like, splashes herself while filming and then like, snaps a lighter, like, I'll do it, and goes up. Because when you are splashed with fuel, the fumes are coming off you. Ignition source near the fumes will light you up. Now, again, I don't know that any of that is true. And I'm just saying this. You got all these members of Congress, and they're like, yeah, that's what everyone's saying happened. You know, now there's a couple things. Maybe the reason those rumors are circulating is because it, you know, for an establishment Republican guy, it's, ooh, salacious. So there's not. There's no foul play. You know what I mean? Because right now, like, we don't really even know what happened. In the official reporting, they've not released any evidence or details.

Tate Brown (24:39)

When this guy sounds electable, that's all.

Tim Pool (24:42)

When did she. People are voting for him. She lit herself on fire last September 13th.

Ian Crossland (24:46)

It was a long time ago. You'd think there'd be a criminal investigation if it was anything.

Tim Pool (24:49)

I covered it when it happened.

Tate Brown (24:50)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (24:51)

On my morning show.

Carter Banks (24:52)

Yeah, I remember it.

Tate Brown (24:53)

I remember Tony Ortiz was covering it pretty heavily as well.

Ian Crossland (24:56)

I. I literally had that. Not in this literal situation, but I dated a girl for a long time and she threatened to kill herself. I was like, it just got to the point where the threats. I stopped coming home to try and placate the woman because it was like, if you're going to do it, do it. I can't stop you, and I'm not going to shut down my life for you. And so I empathize. If that's what this guy was going.

Tim Pool (25:13)

Ian just looks at. It's like, do it. I didn't say do it.

Tate Brown (25:16)

That's kind of like.

Phil Avanti (25:18)

Really?

Tate Brown (25:18)

That's kind of like a point to you. Because it's like. She's like, I can't live without.

Tim Pool (25:21)

No, no, Ian, Ian. When she said it, he goes, no, wait, don't.

Ian Crossland (25:25)

Yeah, it wasn't about me. It never was. You know, she was had her.

Phil Avanti (25:28)

It's all manipulation.

Tate Brown (25:29)

One of my boys, three of his exes became lesbians. And, like, the first one, you're like, that's weird. The second time it's like, okay. The third one, it's like, I think this guy is so good that she realizes I'm never getting a better man, so I might as well just.

Tim Pool (25:39)

Yeah. Or the other way around. Like, if everywhere you go, you smell, you know, poop, you got to check your boot. So he must be doing something. These women where they're like, oh, oh, yeah.

Tate Brown (25:48)

Maybe it's so bad they ruin men forever.

Tim Pool (25:51)

Yeah.

Adam Salinas (25:52)

I mean, I've met multiple individuals throughout my life, especially when I used to travel for ministry and stuff. Individuals that literally tried to commit suicide, try to take their own life away. And every single one of them had said the exact same thing. Whether it was jumping a bridge, whether it was an individual that I knew that tried to light themselves on fire. And thankfully, people got there in time. Those situations, nobody in the heat of the moment when the act is actually coming about, nobody is thinking, yes, it's for finally happening. Of course anybody would think about saying, I don't want to die in the heat of the moment. But for people to not have any valid foundation to what these allegations are coming, as long as it's not being checked by reality, as long as these individuals aren't actually bringing factual evidence, I think it's just going to be almost a monopoly play for any Democrat.

Tim Pool (26:41)

I want to stress, too, because we just got a super chat from X I Alpha. I can't pronounce your name. The investigators are the Uvalde Police Department, the same ones that let all those kids die. So, you know, part of me has to go like, sounds probably like foul play or something nefarious. You know, Member of Congress's mistress goes up in flames. Nothing to see here, folks. No one has any idea what's really going on. And I'm going to be honest with you guys. The House Ethics Committee is investigating, right? Sure. I think the public has a right to know everything about this story. Now, to be fair, I understand the family may say, look, tragic incident considering this was the mistress of a member of Congress who died under suspicious circumstances. I'm sorry. I think the public has a right to know, like, what are the details of this?

Adam Salinas (27:27)

If you are going to be voting for someone, the moment that they decide to go public or to carry any type of office or seat, the public is required to know who they're voting for. Because if they don't then anyone could just step up to those positions. If you don't want your life to be put on the spotlight, not only the good things, but even mistress type of things, then don't sign up for that type of job.

Tate Brown (27:47)

Yeah, it's kind of the same thing. It's like, you know, if you have like some skeletons, like, I don't know, you know, some people, it's like, okay, you had like this embezzlement issue or like, hey, I got fired from a job. I was like high on the job. One guy, you know, he cheated on his wife and then she burned herself alive. Like some of these things, you know, would make you a little bit like, maybe you should not run for office. Maybe stick to like, I don't know, middle management.

Adam Salinas (28:06)

Right? There's a difference between I stole a piece of gum and my ex.

Tate Brown (28:11)

Well, you know, I mean, look, I mean, you know, no one's perfect.

Phil Avanti (28:13)

There's nothing, there's nothing, there's nothing approaching that in my history. And even I wouldn't run for office.

Tate Brown (28:18)

I have a few speed, I have a few speeding tickets. Oh man, I missed a water bill from an old rental place and they come find me.

Tim Pool (28:25)

Yeah, but, but here's the thing. Like, so Ms. Now is never going to story saying, you know, Tate Brown forgot to pay water bill. They're going to want a story that says like derelict and vagrant, how Tate Brown skip town on his debts. You know, they're going to like crank it up to 11 and they're, and they're going to bring in like the landlord and they're not going to say the number. There's going to be like, so when he stole that money from you, what did that do to your family? And the guy that's crying like, we lost everything because of Dave Brown.

Tate Brown (28:54)

It's like an anti Semitic move. Like the ADL comes after me depressing landlords get him.

Adam Salinas (29:00)

Well, they're going to continue to use that bait because the bait keeps working. It's the exact same tactic for the past few years. This whole false narrative on every single story that they bring. They have to add salsa to it. They have to add an ingredient that fits whatever narrative to attack a certain people or a certain person. And if it's still working, why change the bait?

Tim Pool (29:22)

You know, I, I gotta, I gotta just stress, I am deeply offended by the word salsa because it just means sauce.

Tate Brown (29:27)

Oh, really? Yeah.

Adam Salinas (29:29)

I mean, to, to Hispanics, salsa isn't just sauce, it's salsa.

Tim Pool (29:34)

Yeah, but like the direct translation is sauce.

Ian Crossland (29:37)

That's the dance. Is your dancing.

Tim Pool (29:38)

Yeah.

Carter Banks (29:38)

I was gonna say, what about a dance?

Adam Salinas (29:42)

No, I mean, when. When we think of salsa, we're not just thinking sauce. We're thinking something that's going to bring this back to life when.

Tim Pool (29:49)

Any sauce.

Phil Avanti (29:50)

Yeah.

Adam Salinas (29:51)

Not for Hispanics. No. And you will not hear Mexican or Hispanic be like, try me la salsa. You know, go give me mayo. Like, no.

Tate Brown (29:59)

This reminds me of, like, when people from other countries are like, but in my country, like, dinner is, like, a big deal. Like, it's like a thing for us as a cool. I'm like, oh, well, it's just dinner. Does it have to gather together and we, like, pray and then we, like, talk? I'm like, that's just everybody.

Tim Pool (30:13)

Oh, but this is the annoying thing, because it's like a liberal thing. Like, with the talk. They're like these, these, these awfuls. Affluent, white female. I love how they added the U to it. Before it was just affluent, white female liberal, but now it's affluent, white, female, urban liberal. And I'm like, you've done it. You've completed the acronym.

Tate Brown (30:29)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (30:29)

And they're like, you don't understand. Black people have to tell their kids not to fight with cops. Everybody in the city does that.

Phil Avanti (30:38)

My kids white as hell. And I already told them, don't mess with the cops. Like, like, the cops tell you to do something, you listen.

Tim Pool (30:42)

You're not going to win a fight with a cop. Like, even if the cop is dirty, you know, he's corrupt, he's wrongfully arresting you. You're not going to win a fight with a cop. It's just not going to happen.

Carter Banks (30:50)

The whole state on his side.

Phil Avanti (30:52)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (30:52)

And, but, but not just that. Like, let's say a cop plants a drug on you or whatever, fighting with him just is going to make it look like you are more guilty.

Tate Brown (30:58)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (30:59)

And it's going to help the corrupt cop. Yeah, bro, there's some.

Tate Brown (31:02)

I think if you just don't instinctually know that, like, you probably shouldn't antagonize a guy that has a firearm, then it's like you're cooked. It's over.

Phil Avanti (31:08)

I mean, I get into that kind of conversation regularly on the Internet and stuff, like, because, you know, I'm a big 2A guy. So it's like, look, you're not going to win a fight with a guy with a gun. He has to win the fight.

Tim Pool (31:20)

Right.

Phil Avanti (31:21)

Because if you were to knock him out, he has to assume you're going to shoot him and you're Going to run off with the gun. That means someone that just committed a murder is now on the loose in public with a firearm. He has to win the fight. And the cop is not going to let you let you win. He will shoot you first. And there are more cops coming all the time. So you just can't fight. You cannot fight the cops. You will not win.

Tim Pool (31:46)

Let's go to the story from Fox News. Straight out of Congress, top progressive concedes race after viral mockery for embarrassing defeat. Jasmine Crockett lost and she's accusing the Republicans of cheating. Somehow that's just like knee jerk reaction.

Phil Avanti (32:03)

She didn't think about it, just came out that way.

Tim Pool (32:05)

I think, I think it's because the worldview of the Democrats is that they only exist to call Republicans evil. And so there is no narrative thread for which she could poll to say Democrats cheat elections.

Adam Salinas (32:21)

I mean, I think it's embarrassing because for someone who jokingly criticized Donald Trump for using that card, she used it. Now we just seen a few moments ago how the amount of Republicans that went into the voting polls were a lot less this time around. And she's somehow mad at the individuals that didn't vote for her in the first place. Republicans instead of the Democrats who did not choose to vote for.

Tim Pool (32:43)

Well, the Democrats cheated. They 100% cheated by favoring the other candidates. Stephen Colbert staged a hoax where James Talarico. Listen, I want to stress this. James Talarico engaged in a hoax with Stephen Colbert. Talarico tweeted out, this is the interview Trump didn't want you to see. And they framed it as though he was the only candidate and that he was already the primary winner. Colbert and Telo framed the interview on the show as if Trump was trying to make sure that Paxton or, or Cornyn would get an opportunity to go on Colbert that if you're gonna have a Democrat, the Republican should be allowed. Hold on. We are not in the general. So this, that means Tellarico's opponent who was granted, who would have been granted equal time was Jasmine Crockett. The purpose of the hoax was to create the perception in the minds of the people that Talarico was already the nominee and nobody knew who he was. He had no notoriety. He was not going to beat Jasmine Crockett, a rising star in the Democratic Party until this. And Hollywood Reporter is gloating about it saying the Colbert Bump did it. That because. And they don't call it a hoax. They're saying thanks to the interview that Colbert refused to censor in the face of the fcc. Tellarico wins. Well, now the craziest thing is Jasmine Crockett crying like a baby and blaming the Republicans. Let me play this clip for you guys.

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Tim Pool (34:30)

Well, is she talking about Democrats there? Because they're the ones that cheated.

Ian Crossland (34:33)

My question, are you going to go to Bernie Sanders route? Jasmine? Are you going to now kowtow and just, you know, wipe your teeth?

Tim Pool (34:38)

No, she's out, bro. She's, she's, she's, she's gone.

Ian Crossland (34:40)

Or are you going to step up like Tulsi Gabbard and acknowledge the malfeasance there? Because, I mean, sounds like you have a case, an FCC case for not getting equal time on.

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Ian Crossland (36:20)

I Mean, the SEC is important. Make sure that all.

Tim Pool (36:22)

They didn't put it on TV. They put it on YouTube.

Ian Crossland (36:24)

Oh, my God. That's so.

Tim Pool (36:25)

It was a hoax, bro. It is evil. Evil stuff. Evil stuff, bro. Talarico skinned a Christian alive and slopped his skin over his body and says, look at me. I'm a Christian. Vote for me. And the Democratic Party is like, we got to get this guy front and center so he can actually be. He can trick moderates into voting for him, like moderate Christians. Jasmine Crockett, I think, is a bad person. I do not trust her. I think she lies about her accent, all that stuff, but holy crap, step outside. Okay, first, let me just say part of me is laughing because of how funny this is to see these scumbags kind of just eating each other alive at the same time. I am rightly pissed off that this is how politics in our country is being run. Don't get me wrong. I'm not naive. I know that politics has been dirty for a very, very long time. But this is so brazen. So brazen.

Adam Salinas (37:13)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (37:13)

I love how, like, the Texas Democrats are, like, the reason the state's really slipping away from us is because Hispanic voters are really flipping over to the Republican Party. Who should we nominate? Let's nominate, like, a gay white guy. That's like this. That's like the slow look.

Phil Avanti (37:27)

Jasmine Crockett's Her. Her announcement that she was running again was just like 30 seconds of Donald Trump calling person.

Tim Pool (37:34)

While she spins.

Phil Avanti (37:35)

Yeah, while she spins like it is. Right off the bat, it just demonstrated that she is a low IQ person. You don't run. 30 seconds of the President of the United States dogging you out.

Tate Brown (37:46)

It's like a humiliation.

Tim Pool (37:48)

Right, right, right.

Adam Salinas (37:48)

Well, that's. That's kind of why some of the individuals that love Jasmine Crockett. I don't know if you guys watched the video where they are coming. They came out in the news saying that they loved her so much, but they couldn't vote for her because they did not believe she could win. So how do you love someone so much, campaign behind them and do all of this stuff? And yet, at the end of the day, switch it. Switch it up and vote for the

Tim Pool (38:09)

polar oppos her, but she can't win. And if your worldview is moderate, Democrats suck, but Republicans are pure evil demons. You will vote for a sock over a Republican. So the attitude that this is the Democrat establishment plan. Talarico masquerades as a Christian. He. There's. There's viral Clips of him where he. I mean, some of the most. I'm not even. I'm not a Christian, but holy crap. Some of the most shockingly offensive, blasphemous, Blasphemous sophistry I've seen. There's one viral clip where I'm again, assuming it's real, but I think it's from Rogan where he argues that about Mary. About Mary, the Immaculate Conception was the angels saying, you can. You can abort the baby Jesus right now if you want. Never. Not real.

Adam Salinas (38:54)

Not. Not once did that happen. I did a video on it earlier today.

Tim Pool (38:58)

Oh, my God.

Adam Salinas (38:59)

Luke, Luke, chapter 1, verse 34. You find the angel telling her that she will conceive and call that child Jesus. Later on, she asked the angel, what's going on? How will this be? I'm a virgin. Lets her know how. Verse 38, she comes out and says, behold, I am the Lord's servant. Let your word be to me as you have already spoken it. Not once does this validate her consenting to give Jesus an opportunity to live. This was not her consenting to abort

Tim Pool (39:27)

him to the framing that Tellarico made. In this video, he says the angel went to her and said, do you want to actually finish carrying this baby? And she was like, okay, I will. He's like, see? They asked for consent. Therefore, the angel was like, you may terminate the son of God. That. That's. That's. This dude is evil. He is an evil man. Like, I think I actually have the. I don't know if I have the tweet from him. No, let me pull it up. James Talarico engaging in the. Let's see. Yep, I got it right here. I always got my sources. Always got my sources. Here's Talarico's tweet himself. This is the interview Donald Trump didn't want you to see. His FCC refused to air my interview with Stephen Colbert. First of all, Trump had nothing to do with it. The FCC had nothing to do with it. The FCC never intervened in any capacity. CBS stated they told Colbert, if you interview a politician, FCC equal time rules means you will need to have on that person's opponent. That's it. Colbert lied. And James Tallarico, the Democrat nominee, lied along with it to frame this as Trump is trying to stop me, the nominee, from winning. And it was funny to find out if you actually pay attention. You're like, hold on there. Gosh darn minute. This was shutting down. Jasmine Crockett, not Paxton or Cornyn. They are lying Tellarico is evil. Okay, look, I'll tell you this. I remember it's like 2018 or whatever. And my mom calls me and she's like, how come all you ever do is talk about Democrats? And I said, because they're evil. I was like, they constantly do duplicitous things. They are. They're malicious, they're lying. And she goes, yeah, but Republicans are bad too. And I was like, I don't disagree. Give me something that Democrats have done that I think, you know, that you think would be bad.

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Tim Pool (41:24)

And my mom was like, well, I mean, I don't know. And I'm like, right. The problem with the Republican Party is they are sitting on their hands. Elitists who are weak pencil necks who can't get the job done. They do have their scandals. There are evil Republicans too. But the Democratic Party just hits grand slam after grand slam. And so when the day to day, when we're going through the day to day, what do I find? There are many Republicans that are at odds with the establishment of the Republican Party, and I can stand alongside them. I can say I'm a fan of Thomas Massie. I can. You know, there's a handful of Mass is going to get the direct shout out, but there's a handful of Republicans we've had in the show that we're friends with. And then we know there's the establishment, bad Republicans, and we call them out. But it's just sometimes, because usually the problem with Republicans is they don't do anything. It's like the Save act, hey, vote for this thing. And they're like, well, I don't know. And so our biggest complaint is they won't do it. Democrats, on the other hand, do things like this. Just abject deceit to steal political power. Bernie Sanders putting out his tweet earlier where, or I don't know if it was today or yesterday, where he's like, I'm gonna charge the billionaires 5%. And then Jeff Bezos will unfortunately only have 224 billion to survive on. And you know Bernie Sanders is lying. You know for a fact, if you're in politics, Bernie Sanders understands, and so does Elizabeth Warren, exactly why the proposal doesn't make sense. And for those of you who haven't heard the explanation on a wealth tax or who can't comprehend the function of the wealth tax and why it doesn't work, let me just describe it like this. For those of us that have been tracking politics and that track economic systems, Bernie Sanders may as well, Bernie Sanders may as well have said he is demanding the government seize the candy cane rainbow bridge from Jeff Bezos that he uses to get to the planet Nebulon. And you're going, that literally is a fake thing. That makes no sense. But to all the people who are deeply concerned about the Care Bears and they don't know better, it sounds like Jeff Bezos is an evil person.

Adam Salinas (43:25)

Well, to common sense individuals, we know it's crazy, but to individuals that their entire life, their entire mindset is delusion and that is they only stick to what their side is saying. They're not looking or even considering what anybody else is saying. Anything and everything that comes out of the garbage to them is fine dining. It doesn't matter what it is, it doesn't matter who it's coming from, as long as they're blue, as long as they think and do whatever they want them to think and do. It's 100 factual.

Tim Pool (43:53)

And let's debate. We got some shade for Republicans. And you there, I said it. Here's a story from the gambit pundit niqab wearing Muslim woman who voted for Democrats in 2024 becomes North Carolina's GOP state Senate nominee after running unopposed. You know what, I'm gonna say it outright. I have tremendous respect for this woman, 100%. The thing that I love about Democrats is their absolute willingness to be merciless, brutal, deceptive. They will steal power. They will. Like they are, Mr. Burns. They will steal. They will steal the lollipop from the baby. Maybe that's not a good example, but you get the point. So what do we have here? Is not a single Republican exists to run in this, in this, in this place for state senator. And so a Democrat liberal Muslim woman says, I'm going to take the spot. Yep. And we see this. There was a. You guys remember when the transgender Satanist anarchist.

Tate Brown (44:53)

Yep.

Tim Pool (44:53)

Won the primary and it was New Hampshire. Right. Because no one ran. And you know, I just, I'm going to stress, I am sick of the. Right. Right. You get these hoity toity dudes who whinge on the Internet sitting there talking about all the problems, but all they do every day is they sit down at a desk and complain about what's going on in the world. And they don't actually run for office. They, they complain about it and demand everybody else do it. Obnoxious with their, with their fricking beanies and their folded sleeve button ups telling everybody else what to do, but they won't do it themselves.

Ian Crossland (45:26)

Yeah. These people thinking they're all hot people.

Phil Avanti (45:30)

No, but I mean, this is an argument that we make regularly on the show. It's like the Republicans need to exercise power when they're given power by the electorate. They're not elected just to tell the Democrats to slow down. They're not elected to say, oh, you know, we don't want to move this fast. They're elected to actually undo Democrat policies. And Trump actually has undone Democrat policies. He stopped the board, the invasion of the border.

Adam Salinas (45:54)

Because for the longest time, their, their ultimate goal has just been let's get them into office. And that's where their plans stop. That's where their policies end. If our ultimate goal when running for any type of political office is just to get the position everyone that voted for you is just. Has just gotten set up to fail.

Phil Avanti (46:12)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (46:12)

You know, this is why Brandon Herrera needs to win. Right? Things like this, the Democratic Party for too long. Look, guys, I don't need a Republican Party that's going to storm in, in full tactical gear, smashing their fist on the table, being like, Insurrection act wrong and load up the trains. We're deporting everybody. I need a Republican Party that says we are actually going to vote on the SAVE Act. If the Republican Party we had was 80% of this country from Democrat to Republican are in favor of the SAVE act, we're voting on it. It's going to pass. I'd be like, thank you. I don't need guys with guns and fists and tactical gear to say we're taking over and then running around seizing. We don't need anything crazy. We just need a party that literally does their job based on what their constituents are asking for and the Republicans don't.

Adam Salinas (47:00)

But at what point do you call for something like that, then call for

Tim Pool (47:04)

the Republicans do their jobs. Yeah.

Adam Salinas (47:06)

Or somebody to actually stand up guns blazing and actually taking over and doing what needs to be done there.

Tim Pool (47:12)

The point at which we would ask for, you know, 300 guys in tactical armor with rifles is like, you're being bombed. Point. In terms of at what point do we demand Republicans do their job? It's literally 20 years ago. It's 10 years ago. It's right now. It is. Vote for Brennan Herrera. Make sure he wins, because the more we can get people like, like him, you know, Riley Moore, Safeway and Albertsons have made saving easier than ever with great savings on family favorites this week. 16 ounce sweet strawberries are two for $5 member price. And don't miss the incredible deal on signature select boneless skinless chicken breasts. Value packs for 2.97 per pound limit. One plus extra large avocados or mangoes are four for $5 member price. Fresh and delicious savings for every meal. Hurry and these deals won't last. Visit safeway or altrobertsons.com for more deals and ways to save or our rep. Amazing. Okay, shout out to Riley Moore in West Virginia because he's a guy you can literally go and talk to. And I understand it's probably easier in West Virginia where it's a lot, it's more sparsely populated, but his district is same size district as any other district. But he's, he'll talk to you and he'll, he, he, he actually works for what the people have asked him to do. And then you've got all of these other, what is it like, Tony Gonzalez votes for gun control. Okay. Republicans didn't vote for that, and they don't expect you to vote for that. So the time is now to. For Republicans, you guys gotta run. Okay? I'm loving that the Texas Senate primary had so many people. Wesley Hunt, Ken Paxton and Cornyn. Great. That being said, I wonder if Paxton would have won cleanly if Wesley Hunt did not run. So we'll see. I'm hoping that these other, when these other candidates are removed, it all goes to Paxton. That being said, the primary was fantastic for the Republicans. I mean, Crenshaw's gone. We'll see if Toth does better. But I mean, this story about lakeisha Alston, guys, I'm going to say it right now. I may not like what Democrats do, but damn, do I respect it, okay? Because these are the kind of people that show up to your house and say, your house belongs to me now. And the Republicans are the kind of people who go, well, I think town hall is going to hear about this, pack up their stuff and leave. Yeah, Again, why? Why? The other day, with all due respect for the Iran war stuff, I said I loved the masculinity of Trump. Because when Iran says to Trump, we've got, we've got enough material for 11 bombs. And then Trump goes, I'm going to kill you. Like, as much as I'm not a fan of getting involved in Iran the way we are, I have to just feel some kind of masculine catharsis to Trump, saying, I will f you up.

Tate Brown (50:00)

Well, what you're getting at is what separates Trump from, like every other Republican is that Trump ultimately only responds to power. That's why he respects people with power. He disrespects people that don't have power. This is why, like, some people get frustrated that he doesn't have, like, a bromance with, like, Javier Melee or, like, have this bromance with Viktor Orban. It's like, because he likes them, he's like, you know, he likes their policies or whatever. But who cares what Hungary has to say? Who cares what Argentina has to say? He only responds to power. This is why he respects Xi Jinping. This is why he respects Vladimir Putin. He'll respect a strongman. And that's what separates him from the gop, where the gop, beautiful losers, they're going to go and glaze the Prime Minister of Hungary. It's like, great. We can use. It's very useful. I love Hungary, I love war. But this is great. We can implement a lot of their policies, but let's not pretend like this is the most important thing in the world. The GOP just gets fixated on, like, my principles. And, you know, we can get this, this really fantastic Housing act passed. That's literally what freaking John Thune out of everything on the docket right now that matters. He prioritized the Housing act to, like, help, like, poor people buy it. Like, does anybody care about that? Right? Like, we're at war with Iran. You know, the SAVE act could literally make or break every election going forward. I mean, the Trump, the wartime powers, the Democrats were trying to restrict the. His wartime powers. All of these pressing issues, DHS funding, and John Thune, he's like, I might get a glossy National Review op ed. So I think what I should do is I should prioritize getting this housing act. Right. Meanwhile, it's just like gay, like, like gay pacified Republicans that only care about their ego, that only care about their status versus Trump, who's like, I just respond to power and I will return the favor.

Tim Pool (51:38)

The meme was Republicans care more about the opinion of the New York Times than their own constituents.

Tate Brown (51:43)

Yeah, literally, they really do.

Phil Avanti (51:45)

Well, Republicans have been like that for a long time. They want the approval of D.C. like, they, they just are dying for Washington, D.C. to invite them to the parties to make sure that they get a good seat at the, at the correspondence dinner and stuff. Like, those things are important to Republicans. It's all about, they want the status and they don't care about actually doing the things that their constituency wants. And their constituency hates Washington. So what they have to do is things like Trump has done, go in there and cut things and make changes that are going to be unpopular in D.C. and people, if you don't. D.C. will continue to consolidate power. 94% of D.C. voted for Kamala Harris. That's what you get when you don't actually go in and change the culture and by, and change the, the bureaucracy in there. You have to commit cuts.

Adam Salinas (52:34)

And I think that the reason he's criticized so much, not just on the, on the left, but we're starting to see that, especially with what's going on in Iran now from right, they're criticizing him not because of what he's doing, but because he actually did something. You know, so to anybody else that is in the Republican Party or the Democratic Party, they are threatened not by his role, not because all the E Files or whatever, anything like that. They are threatening. They're threatened by him because he can actually do things. He is not just going to make you all of these promises and then just, hey, you're paying me to be here. You guys can go to hell. You know what I mean? And as we continue to vote for Republicans or Democrats, stop looking at people and voting for people based off of the color of their skin, their sexual orientation, where they're coming from, if they're from the hood or they're from the higher ups, focus on what they've accomplished prior to office, prior to running. Because if their report is zero equals zero, those individuals don't need to be running for office office, and we shouldn't be voting for them. You know, you need individuals that are going to be able to actually follow through. And if they're following through in their past objectives, in their past courses, then you would expect them to follow through here.

Ian Crossland (53:49)

You know, I got a question I'd like an honest answer to from you guys. Is it better to have someone in power that's deceptive, but an idiot, or that's deceptive and brilliant?

Tate Brown (53:58)

Well, this goes back to like, if you speak to, like a lot of South Africans, they'll tell you, I'd rather live under incompetent socialists than competent social democrats. So they say, like, actually, when you live in a situation like South Africa, it does enable you to build projects. It enables you to kind of operate under the government, under the government's nose because they're horribly incompetent, even though they're like socialists versus Europe living somewhere like, like Germany or Denmark, a lot of South Africa say that's not favorable. I'd rather stay here because I don't want to live under all encompassing, competent social democracy because they're going to ensure that you can't even lay an egg before we come and take an inspection of it.

Tim Pool (54:32)

Well, if you laid an egg 10, I'd be concerned, right?

Tate Brown (54:34)

I'm not thinking anytime soon I'll lay any eggs.

Phil Avanti (54:37)

But you laid an egg.

Tim Pool (54:37)

He'd have.

Phil Avanti (54:38)

You have a few chick competency of

Ian Crossland (54:40)

the Trump admin's ability to deceive like Trump was no new wars and now of course new war. I think that it is, you know, it's definitely like or Jasmine Crockett or this guy, this guy who will deceive Colbert and the world to get power.

Tim Pool (54:54)

No, no, no. He and Colbert see the world with Colbert.

Ian Crossland (54:59)

What I'm concerned is like because of the intelligence of the deceptive power of Trump and his administration, like are they going to, what we're going to start seeing is deep fakes like we talked

Tim Pool (55:06)

about at the top of the show.

Ian Crossland (55:06)

And it's going to be deep fakes of Trump flying knee, kicking a dog or whatever. And then are we going to see the Trump admin being like, look, misinformation actually is a big problem right now. We're at war and we need to start.

Tim Pool (55:18)

And his zealots will be like, yay, Trump said it. Let me, I'm going to play this video for you guys. It's a, it's a breaking viral video from cnn. Shocking news. Iran war cease fire. Actually a new development in the Iran war as Iran has signaled they are prepared to agree to terms of a ceasefire after Marco Rubio announced today that the group chats of top Iranian officials had been infiltrated.

Tate Brown (55:42)

Here is President Trump commenting earlier today

Ian Crossland (55:45)

from the White House.

Adam Salinas (55:46)

It's bad news, these group chats.

Tim Pool (55:49)

I mean, no man on earth wants his group chats with the boys release

Adam Salinas (55:52)

for everyone to see. It's locker room talk. You've heard me say that before.

Tim Pool (55:57)

It's very embarrassing. And we had the CIA and Mossad

Adam Salinas (56:01)

infiltration infiltrate them months ago. And let me tell you what's in those group chats.

Tim Pool (56:05)

It's bad.

Adam Salinas (56:06)

Of all the bad things the Iranians have done, the killings, the bombings, this

Tim Pool (56:12)

is the worst by far. I'm joined now by CNN senior correspondent Kevin Brown, live on the ground in Tel Aviv. For more. Kevin, what more can you tell us about this story, literally, is Dennis Welledchuk.

J (56:23)

Thanks, Jake. The mood here has been tense, to say the least. However, it's appearing like some kind of resolution is on the horizon. The endless bombing campaigns from the Iranian regime have been put on pause since this news dropped. It's a story that is on par with the Israeli pager drama from two years ago, but this time a coordinated effort between the US and Israel. I'm being told that these group chats had been infiltrated for months and there was serious internal debate in the White House and Knesset about whether or not to release them, as this would be seriously violate international bro code and could potentially lead to retaliation against Israeli and American men. Dubbed Operation Epic Funny, these group chats untold include texts criticizing the weights of senior Iranian officials wives, racist and sexist memes that were not only not denounced, but were thoroughly enjoyed, as well as numerous instances of smash or pass where women photos would be posted in the group chat and Iranian officials would then comment on whether they would have sex with the women or not.

Tim Pool (57:30)

I love how he explains. Okay, guys, it's obviously a joke. And he. He. Danny literally ends the video with, bro, it's so good. Let me play the end.

J (57:42)

It is the only way to protect themselves.

Tim Pool (57:44)

That was CNN's Kevin Brown live from Tel Aviv. After the break, Lindsey Graham will be joining us to explain that the guy he's lived with for 30 years, how is he really just his roommate?

J (57:54)

Some of you pro probably somehow thought this was real. Obviously, it's fake.

Tim Pool (57:58)

I'm comedian, bro. The craziest thing is that this video has gone massively viral. I think. What is. What is it? What does it have 2 million views for him since this morning? But here's the best part. Danny tweeted at grok, is international bro code real? And it said, yes, international bro code is 100% real. That's why hacking the Ayatolls group chat instantly forces ceasefire talk bucks. No one wants the receipts dropping on who owes who a beer or skip the last summit. Bros before geopolitical blows. What's the juiciest leak? So the craziest thing is they had to Community. Community. Note Danny's obvious AI satire about how Iran was more embarrassed about their racist group chat so they were going to cease fire. As opposed to the actual war itself, where he literally says. Where he has Trump say the group chat, all the killing, all the bombing, it doesn't compare to the. To the racist memes. People actually believe it's real. And, you know, so just before he pulls up, Ian's talking about how AI videos are gonna start coming out. Bro, I want to stress this. I think everybody flagged it as an AI gag right away, but there are still people who think it's real. And I gotta stress this. I put out a tweet like 2 days ago or 3 days ago where I said, is there even one reason why we shouldn't take over Iran or Canada for that matter, or Mexico? And it's got like 6,000 responses from liberals who are like, you think you could take whatever you win? They literally can't understand sarcasm. They can't. When your IQ is 85, you don't understand the purpose of sarcasm. So their brains just go like dial tone. And I would argue it's many of the same people. I will pause real quick and say this. I also think a large. There's a large probability that many of these people are foreigners. Because my hypothesis on this, the reason why many people have noticed that irony and sarcasm often is you get a lot of response when people can't get it. It's because they're translating what you said. So in English context, my joke, is there even one I put into caps argument against taking over Iran or Canada or Mexico. Anybody who's American is going to be like, duh, like he's joking. We're not going to invade Canada or Mexico. Now imagine if you hit translate on that and you're, you speak Farsi or something. All you see is there is no argument against taking over Iran and Canada and Mexico. You don't, you don't get any of the, the American context in language or in text.

Ian Crossland (60:31)

Often in text, it's lost too. What I think a lot of times what will happen is kind of like if someone's on a battlefield, you know, you're all about sarcasm and joking, but if you see someone waving what looks like a gun at you and you're already in a panic, fight or flight state, you can't really take it as a joke. And some of these people are so wound right now that they don't see jokes anywhere.

Tim Pool (60:48)

They say or no, right, Like a matt or I don't want to.

Ian Crossland (60:51)

Oh yeah. Well, I think maybe some people will

Tim Pool (60:52)

be like, he's being serious, obviously, because

Ian Crossland (60:54)

everything's so important right now.

Tim Pool (60:56)

I think it's that low IQ people can't understand sarcasm. I think, I think there's a few factors. I think the foreigner issue is huge. There's a lot of people who are not Americans who are trying to manipulate American public opinion. This is normal psyops. It's been on social media for decades. You then have people who genuinely can't understand it and they're just like, why would you want to invade Canada? But then you have liberals who know it's a joke but prefer it to not be, so they can use it to trick stupid people.

Ian Crossland (61:26)

Do that too. They'll be like, look what thinks.

Tim Pool (61:28)

Like, Sam Cedar is a perfect example of basically, like every time he does a video about me, he intentionally lies about the opinions I have on. So a really great example is I was talking about, I think it was the, it might have been like the Minnesota shooting. And I said, the truth doesn't matter in this regard to the right or the left, because the right is going to argue the left is evil and wronged us. And the left is going to argue the right is evil and wronged us. And what Sam does is he takes the quote, the truth doesn't matter, and then stops and then says, see? Tim Pool's literally trying to tell his audience just to lie and be evil. He doesn't try to actually convey the information because he's a scumbag. He's an evil guy. He just wants to make money. He doesn't care about politics. He's old. He's just like whatever gets the clicks and makes me the cash with.

Adam Salinas (62:12)

I think in 2020, it caused a lot of individuals to lose what we're having right now, which is social interactions. Everything forced people to be on the screen. Everything forced it to be, whether it's a tablet, a phone, or whatever type of screen. So that has become their focal point. They do not know social cues. They cannot have a normal conversation without it, without it being filtered through a text screen in their mind. They are able to put any emoji in their brain with anything that's written out there. So it's constantly being filtered.

Tim Pool (62:45)

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Adam Salinas (63:43)

space80@talkspace.com do that garbage because of our failed system in 2020 and so on and so forth, to where individuals lack the basic human ability to sit across from somebody and have a meaningful conversation without it being filtered through emoji.

Tim Pool (64:01)

I have another theory. I think that, you know, we talked about why Elon Musk bought X, and a lot of people tried to. They played up like, oh, it's because Babylon Bee got banned and then he got offended. No, it's because he wanted access to what's called the fire hose, the stream of all the tweets from people to use as training data for an AI for grok. So everybody's got their data sets. You know, Google's got a massive data set of all this different stuff from search, from, you know, maps, whatever it might be. And then, you know, of course you've got. I don't know exactly what open AI uses, but they're probably. They're probably using Google and open it.

Phil Avanti (64:37)

OpenAI used or. Yeah, OpenAI used, like Reddit and they used Wikipedia. Yeah, Wikipedia. That's part of the reason why.

Tim Pool (64:44)

And I'm pretty sure they watched YouTube videos, too, and Google got mad about it.

Phil Avanti (64:46)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (64:47)

Here's my other thought. Do you guys know what captcha is? Remember captcha?

Tate Brown (64:52)

Yep.

Tim Pool (64:53)

Yeah.

Adam Salinas (64:53)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (64:53)

Captcha is when you try to log into a site, it says, are you a robot? And then you've got to solve a puzzle. You've seen it before. So the original recaptcha was text. You would try logging into a website, it would say, prove you're not a robot. And then it would show you two words that were all mangled, and it would say, type these words out. The truth is, only one of the words was the actual code. What recaptcha was doing was using human labor to train AI to read physical text.

Adam Salinas (65:21)

Really?

Tim Pool (65:22)

So the issue is, for a camera to identify text, you need a data set. So what they would do is here's a list of words we know. And so they'd show you a picture of, you know, it would. It would be like shillelagh, and it would be like bent, because it was scanned from a book. The computer already knows what that word is, and it's trying to test whether or not you are giving it accurate data, not whether or not you're a robot. It was actually not about if you're a robot. I mean, it's an ancillary benefit. What it was trying to do is the second word. We show you we can't read, and we Want a data set on. We want a trustworthy data set on what that word says. So basically what they were doing were scanning books. And if the computer said this word is unidentifiable, they would. You'd log into a website, you'd see this thing asking you for a robot, and then you'd say, oh, it says shillelagh doorknob. It knew shillelagh. It didn't know doorknob. And the purpose of it was to say if the first word is correct, they likely put in both correct words. So 4chan created an operation called re n word, but not n word, the actual word. And they said, to exploit the system, the first word is always the code. The second word can be anything you want it to be. So what happened was, and I'm pretty sure this actually was confirmed, 4chan started going to every captcha and they would put in the first word and the second word, they would put the N word. And so what ended up happening was in some of these, like, natural language processing sites, the N word started popping up randomly in places where it shouldn't, because the computers were being trained improperly, because people were exploiting it, but they quickly fixed it. So it may just be an urban legend. The operation absolutely did happen. Because I remember it was going viral. People were like, the argument was that captcha was recaptcha was trying to steal labor from people with this method. They were getting. They were. They were tricking people into training AI

Adam Salinas (67:18)

to read books without them knowing that.

Tim Pool (67:21)

Without them knowing and without people getting paid to do it, they were decentralizing the labor. I believe that X is probably that training algorithm in all the same way. That is, I would not be surprised if they intentionally have grok bots tweeting at people, posting at people, trying to generate replies, because it trains the AI on these interactions. Get this. Why is it then that Elon Musk says your payment is based on the number of replies you get? Because that encourages people to reply and generate more replies. So let's say you put up a tweet or an X post and you say, you know, I'm just not a fan of waffles. And then someone responds with. And you can see a lot of these are bots. Easily. Some of them are very obviously bots. They'll be like, waffles were invented. And you know, and you're like, ignore. But imagine this. Grox AI sees a tweet that says, you know, donald Trump is doing a decent job, but I'm upset about the War. It then responds with something that seems seemingly nonsensical. It'll, it'll say something like, the war, you know, the war in China, blah, blah, blah. And then, and then you look at it and you go, what war? What are you talking about? We're not at war. China. So you respond with, hey, dumbass, we're not at war with China. Correcting the bot, it then takes that training data and then says, here's where we made a mistake. And I'm going to back this up once again with another bit of conjecture from this very show, where several years ago I pointed out that there is something that I noticed on X where your account will be categorized and attacked by bots based on the perceived alignment that you have, which creates a problem for middle of the road people. The example being, I was like, because like, we're a fairly moderate show and that means sometimes we're critical of Trump but largely supportive of him. It's confusing for a bot that's, that's operating under a political alignment binary. And so what ends up happening is there were numerous instances where I would make a tweet and I would say something like, I just absolutely, you know, Israel's a really great example. I would say something like, it is absolutely insane that we would be forced into a war because of Israel. It's about time we cut off, you know, we cut off funding to, to this country and support for them. However, because there was a general view, like after I met with Nanyao, whatever, or because we're typically Israel ambivalent, my account gets categorized in the pro Israel camp. So when I criticize Israel, I get blasted by comments that were attacking me for defending Israel. Literally made a post saying we should stop funding Israel. And all the replies were like, why should we fund Israel? You're nuts. And I said, hey, these aren't real people. They clearly didn't read the tweet. It seems like my account is flagged with categories based on some kind of botnet and they're responding to the keyword Israel in a post and the presumption my account is pro Israel, not the substance of that post, in which case responding to them would correct the record, so I don't respond. But again, I think this whole system is being set up so that we can be used as free labor to train the artificial intelligence. And I believe that is the true reason that Elon bought X. It's obvious because he launched Grok right away. He's using extra photos and videos for the training data. It's a great product, to be completely honest. But I would also imagine it goes further than that and we are responding to bot accounts to train it further without realizing it.

Ian Crossland (70:48)

I hope he goes transparent. If you're doing that, Elon, if you want to use people will opt in. So you don't need to trick them or deceive them. In that case, it feels real, like you're getting raped if people take and use you against your will. So don't do that to people unless it's like war and you have no choice.

Phil Avanti (71:03)

He's. I think he has said that, that he used X as as a data set. So I think it's pretty.

Tim Pool (71:09)

That's. That the fact that the Twitter firehose was training data for AI is not a conspiracy theory. Yeah, I'm saying I believe there is a decent probability that Grok is actually. That they are probably Grok powered bot accounts responding to all of us and when we respond back, correcting them. We are training the AI to be more believable as a human.

Adam Salinas (71:33)

So why are people not like trying to file lawsuits against this for free human labor?

Tim Pool (71:39)

What do you mean?

Adam Salinas (71:40)

You're, you're working for something that isn't painful. You're unknowingly helping standing against something like that.

Tim Pool (71:47)

If I, if I make a bridge that's got panels on it, so when you step on a panel, it generates electricity. You chose to walk on my bridge. You can't sue me because I generate electricity off your weight.

Adam Salinas (71:58)

I think if you're benefiting from someone doing something without knowing that they're benefiting you, I think that would call for grounds for somebody to be like, absolutely nothing.

Ian Crossland (72:08)

Yeah, I'm thinking about handing mail and being like, can you drop this off for me? And it's like, you make some money because they mail your check, but like, can't really ask you for anything because they did it.

Tim Pool (72:17)

But, but, and, and again, like, we're not even looking at something like that.

Adam Salinas (72:20)

That's different because they, they're asking you to do that.

Tim Pool (72:23)

This would be like individuals. The door to my restaurant has a generator on it. Every time you open it, it spins a generator charging a battery. And I've done the math. Like, no, you get nothing. Like, I'm sorry, you can't be like, but I opened the door and he benefited from opening the door. They're going to be like, what? Or there are gyms where when you ride on the bikes, it actually spins a generator. And so there are, there, there have been a handful of gyms that actually have the. All the bikes, when people are riding, are putting. Putting juice back into the grid.

Ian Crossland (72:53)

You see the AI video that says that will be the future or people. That's what all these people are going to be doing is exercising for electricity.

Tim Pool (72:58)

Well, that's. That's Black Mirror.

Ian Crossland (73:01)

Oh, yeah.

Tim Pool (73:01)

Remember the episode where everyone lives in the TV box? He rides the bike and turn points.

Tate Brown (73:05)

If you get sued for this, like every time you take B roll in Times Square, you just get like 50 people suing you every single time.

Tim Pool (73:11)

Right, Exactly.

Phil Avanti (73:12)

Likeness.

Tim Pool (73:13)

Let's have a little fun though, and jump to this story. We got this from Dexerto, the new video game Karen. And it's funny because a lot of people are like, Karen is racist. I think this is hilarious.

Ad Read Voice (73:23)

Sorry, we're all out of half and half.

Phil Avanti (73:25)

We can only do an exchange.

Tate Brown (73:27)

Breadsticks are extra.

Adam Salinas (73:28)

Sorry, ma', am.

Tim Pool (73:29)

That's our policy. So it's a Karen with the Karen haircut destroying them all. Epic. Epic.

Ian Crossland (73:51)

Celtic.

Adam Salinas (73:52)

Did they get these ideas from Los Angeles or.

Ian Crossland (73:56)

Oh, it kind of looks like.

Tim Pool (74:00)

What's that? The. The models.

Ian Crossland (74:02)

There's games that have this similar character models.

Tim Pool (74:05)

Why does she have superpowers among us? I think.

Phil Avanti (74:09)

Well, so you're gonna get the manager out there.

Ian Crossland (74:11)

Is she getting bigger?

Tim Pool (74:12)

Is she? Yes.

Phil Avanti (74:13)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (74:16)

So my problem, Karen, the video game.

Tate Brown (74:19)

Well, my problem with this is when you think of like, let's everyone out there just play like a mind game, close your eyes and think of someone destroying a shopping mall. Do you really think of a middle aged white woman? Is that like.

Tim Pool (74:31)

And that was. That's the, the first response from Kangmin Lee. A bunch of young black men looting a department store. Now hold on. That's just a different video game. And Tate, I recommend you make it.

Tate Brown (74:40)

I know, but no one's ever gonna make that.

Tim Pool (74:42)

I made a grok video called Shaniqua because that's the, that's the black equivalent of a Karen. I researched this. The funny thing is Wikipedia is like Shaniqua is a racist term for a low income, rude black woman. Or they said it's like it's used in racist ways to describe low income, rude black women. And, and, and then Karen. It's like some people criticize Karen as being racist. And it's like, guys, neither is racist, but they are both racial. Like you. When, when you say Karen, you don't imagine a black woman. And when you say Shaniqui, you don't imagine a white woman. And they're both references to people you describe as Rude. But they're not meant to represent literally every woman of that race. So it's a racial joke. It was always allowed. And I think Karen should include the option to choose between all sorts of different races. I would love an Asian, a Kim who rampages around smashing things up.

Ian Crossland (75:35)

Gotta skin that. Skin that bitch is what I was gonna say. But I mean, make skins or the character model, you know, like, well, this

Tate Brown (75:41)

is me and Amberduke's like, thesis is why we. We came under so much ire for defending Karen's. But our, our proposal, like, okay, yeah, it is annoying, right? A Karen, you know, when you think of the Karen Phoenix, there's an annoying person. But the problem is it's like, safe, edgy, where a lot of people just outsource every problem and, like, American public life to Karen's. And when you, if you're really being honest, how far up the ladder are again, middle aged white moms, like, an impediment to, like, the functionality of American social life? Like, is that really think about, like, who's disrupting, like, the retail scene? Is it.

Tim Pool (76:14)

I'm gonna say it again. White women, brother awfuls. Okay. Even then, Karen's fall in this camp, they are, they are the. There's the meme I'd love to bring up where the man builds a fence around his house to protect his wife from wolves. And one day while the wife is out working, the wolf whispers, your husband built this fence to imprison you. Tear down these walls and find freedom. So she does, and the wolf eats her. The point is, Karen represents to me the uppity, pretentious, white, affluent female that has been so removed from the dangers of the real world that she just demands whatever she wants.

Tate Brown (76:53)

I would agree if that was the, like, the working definition everyone has, but people just use Karen to, like, describe again, like, a white woman that just expects, like, basic standards, like, when she's out in public. And like, the thing is, Karen's basic standards. Oh, yeah.

Tim Pool (77:06)

Like, I don't know about arguing about something.

Tate Brown (77:08)

Yeah, they're arguing.

Adam Salinas (77:08)

I think it's delusional.

Tate Brown (77:10)

No, no, no, because a lot of these retailers, dude, the state of retail workers in 2026 is, like, horrible. Like, it's legitimately, like, you go to, like, a Wendy's, they're like in their pajamas, they're blasting music. Like, the order is always wrong. They forget your straw. I mean, that's like the basic level. So it's like. And then if. And if it's fine, if I, like, got mad but again, if, like, Amber Duke got mad, and I hate to sound like a libtard, but it's like, if Amber Duke got mad, like, that's. Can you believe that, Karen?

Tim Pool (77:32)

No, no, no, I like it. I like it. I like the fact that you go to a fast food restaurant and you can't and everyone's all nasty and the world shouldn't be candy canes and rainbows and marshmallows kind of with that.

Ian Crossland (77:43)

I think people have become accustomed to luxury and, like, why we have. If you're playing seven hours late, you're still getting to ride in an airplane, bro.

Tim Pool (77:51)

We need. We need bears running around just like, we got it. We got to breed grizzlies and just let them loose in our major cities and be like, it might be you. You know, because danger exists.

Tate Brown (78:00)

I'm just using Wendy's. Like, the DMV is miserable. Tsa. Tsa.

Tim Pool (78:04)

Check government, bro.

Tate Brown (78:06)

I know. I'm saying at every level, every time you have to deal with, like, someone that has to perform a task for you, they're like an idiot. And this is like a fairly. This is a fairly recent thing. Even at, like, top. Even, like, Trader Joe's. I used to respect Trader Joe's employees. And, like, since COVID it's just gotten horrible. No one cares about their job. It makes them across the board. No one cares about.

Ian Crossland (78:24)

Makes them. Karen is. They can't control their temper.

Tate Brown (78:27)

No. It's just they expect, like, basic standards. And when Karen's by extension and when they're out of the way, it's going to be a total free for all.

Tim Pool (78:34)

Karen is. Is. Is meant to represent an entitled woman.

Tate Brown (78:38)

I think. I think some people should be a little bit more entitled.

Tim Pool (78:40)

Sure.

Tate Brown (78:41)

But the point is, people can't advocate for themselves.

Tim Pool (78:43)

When you see a video that someone's accused of being a Karen, there are certainly some that are wrong where it's like she's falsely accused. But the general idea is, like, a woman comes in and she goes, why is there mayonnaise on my burger? And they're like, I'm really sorry about that. I already make it. No, this is ridiculous. I want free. That's the Karen trope.

Tate Brown (78:58)

Yeah, I agree. Like, those are. I'm just saying it's expanded now. It's like any white person that gets, like, upset that they're being mistreated, that

Ian Crossland (79:04)

I don't like, because I'll see. Sometimes women will get harassed in a park by a dude throwing food at her dog, and then they get her

Tim Pool (79:10)

reaction that was it. That was the story.

Ian Crossland (79:11)

That's one of.

Tim Pool (79:12)

The story was there was a black guy in Central park that was trying to feed a woman's dog. And she started screaming and she definitely overreacted. And the media, like, they just went, white women, bad black.

Ian Crossland (79:24)

Completely different than a girl walking into a Wendy's and being like, you forgot my pickles.

Tate Brown (79:28)

But then to my point also, it's like when you think about, again, a shopping mall and you think about people freaking out in public, like, is it Karen's the primary person you think of or is it like the video Kangmin Lee posted?

Tim Pool (79:39)

No, that's. That's why I'm saying we gotta make. We gotta make our own game. No, no, no, bro.

Adam Salinas (79:45)

It's like having a long line at a store. A Karen is not the person that just got cut in line that's been waiting there for 15 minutes. A Karen is the one that just showed up and starts yelling why nobody's attending to her because she showed up. And you're, you're. You doing what you're doing is an inconvenience to her because she has this expectation that she hasn't informed you about, but she expects you to be informed. And every time expectation is set over you, that does not appease to them, you get a Karen.

Tim Pool (80:09)

Guys, I want to, I want, I want to add this video to the mix on this story. And I hate Instagram because they always mute it and you can't play it right from the beginning. But I want, I want to play this shorts. You like that too. I'm playing this video. Listen to this.

Science/Study Narrator (80:20)

Where men and women were hooked up to brain scanners as they watched people play a game. They got to see whether the people playing the game were playing fairly or whether they were cheating at the game. And the people playing were connected to electric shock machines. So electric shocks would go into these people as they were playing and they would measure the brains of the men and women watching. So every time a player that was playing fairly got an electric shock, both men and women's empathy centers lit up. Whenever an electric shock would go into a person that was cheating, women's empathy centers lit up just the same as with the fair playing person. But men's empathy centers did not light up at all. Actually, their pleasure center lit up. Super key psychological distinction between men and women.

Tim Pool (81:04)

Wow. And that's a very interesting take that I think plays into this very much so in that according to this study, men feel pleasure when evildoers are punished, women feel empathy when evildoers are punished. Hence it's. Who's that, what's that woman's name who's talked about the feminization of Helen Andrews? Helen Andrews. And this is basically her hypothesis played out. Macro level politics. When you get to the point where any, any significant percentage of judges and DAs are female, they are going to empathize with the evildoers. The idea that an evildoer. So a man is going to say, you are a murderer and a rapist. I think you should be beaten. That gives me pleasure and joy. And all the guys are saying like we've, we've, we derived pleasure from the suffering of this evil man. The women go, but it's, it's so mean.

Adam Salinas (81:59)

Well, not, not Democrat men, Democrat. They see it, I think in the same way.

Tim Pool (82:03)

Indeed, indeed. So it's basically a low testosterone phenomenon, I'd imagine. Yeah. And I mean that. I mean literally.

Tate Brown (82:09)

Yeah, yeah. Because it's like all this is really happening is these are again, these are natural impulses that women have always had. It's just when you implement them in a liberal democracy, that's when it becomes this. That's where you get Karens. Because policing behavior, women of police behavior, that's called being a mother. That's like a natural instinct for them to have. And policing behavior is actually very useful in a.

Tim Pool (82:28)

No, they don't, they don't police behavior. The point is that the men are the ones who are gonna go to the child and they're gonna say no and they're gonna wet on the backside of the head and then the mom goes, oh baby, come here, I'll give you a kiss.

Tate Brown (82:42)

Yeah, but women, okay, but like the maternal instinct is a form of policing behavior. That's how women do. Often men wouldn't even be in charge of parenting. They would leave the wife at home while they're out doing their thing.

Tim Pool (82:50)

Right. And mom is the safe place where, you know, not.

Tate Brown (82:54)

I think, I think mothers, I mean,

Ian Crossland (82:56)

I thought women was the. Wore the pants in that house.

Tate Brown (82:58)

My dad was not about wearing pants.

Tim Pool (83:00)

Again, let's not be willfully obtuse. I am not suggesting that every single mother everywhere, all the time is letting their kids run rampant. I'm saying women have a tendency towards this as per the studies and men have a tendency in the other direction. I also think it's fair to say if you could measure love, I think it is 100% true. Women's love for their children would, would shatter the charts compared to men. Men love their children 100 think so. But I believe that the emotion that women have towards their kids is substantially stronger than the way men feel about their kids.

Adam Salinas (83:31)

How so? How so?

Tim Pool (83:32)

I believe that through evolutionary biology and psychology, women are effectively one with the baby for a long period of time in a way that men are not. So men do love their kids, don't get me wrong. And it's, it's a strong and powerful love men will throw themselves into, you know, onto a fire to save their kids and all that stuff. But I believe that women just have a stronger emotional drive towards their kids.

Adam Salinas (83:54)

So the emotional drive to throw yourself in front of the train to save your kid is outweighed by her emotional connection because she was with the child.

Tim Pool (84:02)

Let's put it like this, let's call it Fahrenheit. A man's love for his kids is 100 degrees Fahrenheit. A woman's is 120.

Ian Crossland (84:08)

I've noticed females will get ill physically sick if they empathize with their child's feeling. Feeling bad, they'll start to feel bad. There's a lot of different types of love. I think the women feel more types of love towards their children.

Tim Pool (84:20)

I'm going to say this too, for anybody who's walked down the street with their wife and their kids. Certainly something I've only experienced in this past year. Babies are celebrities to women.

Tate Brown (84:29)

Oh, yeah.

Tim Pool (84:29)

And I've explained this for a while about how cat calling is a phenomenon that affects both men and women of high status. The question is, what makes a woman high status? Well, unfortunately for the feminists, it is sexual attractiveness, which means a woman who is sexually attractive has high social market value. Guys are going to holler at her. For a guy, it's notability, notoriety. Now you could be ultra wealthy. So guess what? Guys that drive around in super fancy cars, what do you see? People go up to him and they go, yo, like, what's up? And guys walking around with crazy chains. People always want to look at them. Or how about this? There's a dude who did a stunt where he went to Times Square and he walked out of a building and hired his friends, or hired, but had his friends paparazzi him. And so they all swim around him, are taking pictures, and he puts his hands up and he's going like this. He's wearing a jacket and then he has a fake bodyguard go like this. Crowds swarmed around because they just wanted to see who it was. So my point is, like, women, for the most part are getting catcalled by guys because A woman will just be attractive, and that's high social value. But most guys don't experience any kind of catcalling because they don't outwardly express any kind of high social status. I think celebrity guys do.

Adam Salinas (85:40)

The society that we're living in has almost indoctrinated men to the point of if they show any type of love. No, that's not what men.

Tim Pool (85:48)

So.

Adam Salinas (85:48)

So to the point around the edges and all this other stuff.

Tim Pool (85:51)

So to the point I'm trying to make is walking down the street with a baby. And, you know, I'm curious what you. What you've experienced filling this one. I think I've seen one, actually. No, Not a single guy has ever, of any age, stopped and said, I gotta see your baby. Women, every single woman. Okay, 100.

Adam Salinas (86:10)

You just did something right now which I don't think you realize. You went, hey, let me see the baby. Because we automatically tie men loving children or showing empathy or emotion towards kids as being gay or as being homosexual. There's a femininity to them. If men.

Tim Pool (86:27)

This is not material to the point that I'm making.

Ian Crossland (86:28)

Well, here, let me tell you how the point is for child is if I.

Tim Pool (86:30)

Not a single. Hold on. Not a single guy has ever said, oh, what a beautiful child. Can I take a look? Not one guy. I'm in an elevator and an old lady leans back trying to look into the baby carriage. We're sitting down at a restaurant, and the women walk by and they go, can I take a look at your baby? That's my point. Women love babies substantially more than men do. Men, of course, love their kids. I'm not saying they don't. I'm just saying I think it's evolutionary psychology and biology, and it should be patently obvious to every guy that guys like going out and fighting bears. You know, I mean that somewhat figuratively. Women like having babies. It's fascinating the amount of social propaganda you needed to convince women not to have babies. And then it's funny because I see these videos online on Instagram all the time, and it's like. Like these, like, music is playing, and it's the woman with her baby. There was one earlier where it was a woman who said she always wanted a nose job, and now she's glad she never got it because her nose fits perfectly with her baby's forehead. And she, like. She, like, put her head to her baby's forehead, said. I'm like, yeah, guys don't make videos like that. Yeah, yeah, guys don't feel that Way obsessive.

Ian Crossland (87:33)

I think it's a type of love called mania, and it's one of the Greeks.

Tim Pool (87:37)

Women are manic.

Ian Crossland (87:38)

They're manic for their babies. It means obsessive love. And their women do have obsessive love for their babies. Men don't. My love would be formed as agape love of the community, where if I

Tim Pool (87:47)

see your kid, I'll be like, hey, kid.

Ian Crossland (87:49)

And then I immediately look around the room to make sure we're all safe, because I love that kid and I want it to survive.

Tate Brown (87:53)

I don't even notice like. Like Tim's baby half the time. Oh. Oh, hi. How are you?

Tim Pool (87:59)

Oh, it's here.

Tate Brown (88:00)

And I didn't grow up around, like. Like, I was always the, like, youngest. I didn't really grow up around babies either. So I, like, speak to them like adults. I'm like, hello, how are you?

Tim Pool (88:07)

Men and women are different. There's nothing wrong with it. Right? So again, to the point that I'm making, like, the. The point that I'm making is that babies get cat called because they. Because, yeah, yeah, because they're my women. I'm not. I'm not even playing. Like, that's true. And. And it's funny too, because my wife gets concerned because you're like, I don't want strangers touching my baby.

Phil Avanti (88:26)

It's the exact same way.

Tim Pool (88:27)

Isn't it crazy how women walk up, they go, can I touch your baby? And it's like, no, no.

Phil Avanti (88:31)

I don't know.

Tim Pool (88:31)

Could you imagine. Imagine this, a guy wearing, filming, like, can I touch you? Can I touch your shoulder? No, you're. Don't touch me.

Ian Crossland (88:37)

Yeah, and if they got weird perfumes on, you don't want your baby breathing.

Adam Salinas (88:40)

So how. So how would you feel in comparison to a girl approaching your child? And if a man approached it in the same way?

Tim Pool (88:47)

I don't like either a man or a woman.

Adam Salinas (88:50)

Hypothetically, if more women are coming and they're being cat called to your kid, if that same reaction was a man doing it, how would you take that?

Tim Pool (89:02)

Okay, so, like, again, the same. Because both are bad. So when a woman walks up and tries to touch. Or in other words, like, can I see the baby? Yeah. No, you can't. And a guy doing the same thing. It's there. There are ways that it can happen where we don't freak out. Right. We're sitting at a restaurant and, you know, she's in a high chair, and then there's an old guy, and he looks over and he smiles and he Waves. And then we laugh, and that's about it. There are instances where women walk by and they'll look and say, oh, your baby is so cute, and that's fine. But a woman being like, can I touch or hold your baby? It's a no. We can't. Sorry. And a man or woman doing it is gonna be a no. What are you doing? Stop.

Adam Salinas (89:39)

Okay, so I think that is where the bias comes in. I do not believe that men are incapable or incapable of sharing that type of emotion to a child. Who said that than women are. Or that women somehow are able to show more emotion towards children, but it's

Tim Pool (89:59)

a fact that they do.

Adam Salinas (90:02)

I disagree. I think that every time that men have tried to show that, it's been brought back to this mold that. No, no, this is what.

Tim Pool (90:09)

So you're arguing the blank slate of baby love?

Adam Salinas (90:12)

No, not the blank slate. It's a slate that I've lived.

Tim Pool (90:15)

But your argument is that men and women are equal in this endeavor, but men are socially conditioned mentioned. I. I agree. I. I believe I'm saying that is your argument because I don't agree with it. I think men, like Tate's point is that he doesn't even notice the babies are here. That is not true for women. Like, women, like, seek out babies.

Tate Brown (90:32)

Yeah. Women, like, they lactate when a baby cries.

Tim Pool (90:35)

Yeah, yeah, this is true. Like, so. Because guys don't know.

Adam Salinas (90:40)

Because they lactate, that makes them more.

Tate Brown (90:42)

Yes, because, like, they're in hormones. Because they're designed.

Tim Pool (90:45)

Hormones are related. Priest. In a woman's body, if she hears a baby cry.

Adam Salinas (90:49)

Right.

Tim Pool (90:49)

A.

Adam Salinas (90:49)

A. Oh, that I'm not arguing.

Tim Pool (90:51)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (90:51)

That means they're, like, engineered to, like, be with breastfeed.

Tim Pool (90:54)

So a man will not have a hormonal reaction to a crying baby. A woman. A woman will.

Adam Salinas (90:59)

Right.

Tim Pool (91:00)

That is an emotional action.

Adam Salinas (91:01)

Right.

Tim Pool (91:02)

Women feel stronger emotions for babies. It's a scientific fact.

Adam Salinas (91:05)

So if men began to feel stronger emotions, would men begin to lactate?

Tim Pool (91:09)

What?

Adam Salinas (91:10)

No, it doesn't.

Tim Pool (91:11)

So.

Adam Salinas (91:12)

So what I'm trying to say is you're. You're setting up a woman and a man to something that they cannot do even if they. To show that amount of emotion. Does that make sense?

Tim Pool (91:20)

No, it doesn't. The point is this.

Adam Salinas (91:22)

What I'm trying to say is a

Tim Pool (91:23)

man and a woman in a room and a baby starts crying, one of

Adam Salinas (91:26)

them can physically lactate men if you

Tim Pool (91:29)

give them the right hormones. The point is, if you take a random man and a random woman and you put them in rooms And a baby in the other room they can't see starts crying. Women who are mothers will begin lactating and the men will probably just get annoyed.

Ian Crossland (91:41)

It's true though, you guys, like I said, I'm kid.

Tim Pool (91:45)

The what?

Ian Crossland (91:46)

Oh, I stay real calm and meditate when the kids are crying. Just like you got this. I understand. Gravity's a pain.

Adam Salinas (91:50)

Go pick them up.

Ian Crossland (91:51)

Yeah, empathy is what you got, but I'm not going to lactate for you, kid. Just don't care that much. I don't know. I'm with. I, I fully believe. Do you disagree that women have like a more all encompassing. Because there are. The Greeks have split love into eight different categories. You know, there's erotic love, which I don't think any parent feels, but like familial love, both parents can feel that. There is the obsessive love which I mentioned earlier, mania, which women seem to have for babies that men do not. I don't know, men that are manic for children. Do you get manic for babies their own or anything?

Adam Salinas (92:22)

Manic? Manic. No.

Tim Pool (92:24)

That's why women have like baby crazy. It is a known thing that at a certain age women experience a baby crazy that men do not. Women have deeply stronger emotions about babies than men do. This is just the literature across the board and also. And common sense, like you experience it.

Tate Brown (92:41)

Yeah, I mean like, I mean the obvious example obviously like, like following a divorce is different, but out of wedlock, like 98% of children end up with

Tim Pool (92:48)

the mother because the father and gender roles and social bias are derivative of the human experience. The reason why women typically weren't in the workplace is because the structure of, of, of human society, when humans were nomadic and in small villages, the men would go out and do dangerous things and the woman would be protected because if the women die, you can't have any babies. If the men die, you only need one guy and you can have more babies. Right. And so women can do what men can do, but typically don't need to. Men can't do what women do and need to protect the women. After a thousand years, women stay home, men go work, they go to the office, women don't. And then what happens is once you get to a point in society where you have a massive population explosion which happens around the Industrial Revolution, the expansion of oil products, and oil is energy. You have such a massive explosion of population that the stressors of population decline no longer factor in. Now you've got women who aren't feeling social pressures to get married and have kids. And this slowly starts shifting to an ever increasing group of spinsters as a, as a demographic, which results in the suffragettes, a large group of women, not all of them unmarried, but many of them. And then they're demanding rights to function in society without a husband. At a certain point, you concede, we got a lot of people that need to be able to live that don't have husbands. Then you end up with the 70s when all of them go in the workplace. Women in the workplace correlates like 100% with less babies. And so, long story short, the social structure is built around, like, why is that courts favor women getting the babies first and foremost. It is fascinating to me how we as society don't know this. This is a failure on the generations before the millennials to inform the millennials of this. I'm sorry. I think it's true. Our schools did not adequately inform in sex ed, the function of a mother for the baby. Like, for instance, mentioning that women lactate if they hear a baby cry. Not all women, but women who have babies, like, like a new mother or a woman who's breastfeeding will hear a baby cry and she starts lactating. Like, it's just, it's a, it's a, it's a response. Or the fact that the saliva of the baby changes the chemical composition of the milk produced by the mother. This is. These are things that schools should have taught. And the reason why now I think you have such this big burst in surrogacy and claims that two gay men can have a baby is because people are not adequately informed as to the requirements a human baby needs. They need mother's milk, so they get their antibodies from it and they get perfectly formulated vitamin protein shake. So you. So formula's fake. And because people didn't like. I, I gotta be honest, I didn't know about the saliva thing until I had a kid. I'm almost 40. That's crazy to me. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, I just don't know this. They don't. They don't think about it. And most women don't get taught this stuff either.

Tate Brown (95:38)

Yeah, I mean, and that's also vile. That's why, like, I get so fired up about. And I'm not saying you were making this argument, but the arguments people make that men and women are interchangeable in any way, it's like, quite literally, I can't think of a single instance in which men and women would be interchangeable.

Phil Avanti (95:50)

Yeah, it's the. That's totally ridiculous. The whole blank slate thing is just garbage. We should throw it in the dustbin of history. The idea that, that men and women are interchangeable or, or that people are exclusively a product of their environment. If you put anyone else in the same circumstance, they would be the exact same. That's ridiculous.

Tim Pool (96:06)

Yeah, I, I also think it's fair to say just everybody gets that women are more emotional than guys.

Tate Brown (96:11)

Yeah, they have to be. You got to rational, you got to rationalize with a toddler and negotiate with the toddler. Oh, seriously. That's why, that's why they're a bit more emotional and irrational is because they have to negotiate with the toddler for

Ian Crossland (96:20)

years and the toddler doesn't have logic yet. So that's why men communicate emotionally.

Tate Brown (96:24)

Exactly. That's why men get so frustrated with children. That's why men typically speak to children like adults. But then women do baby talk. It's like, because that's instinctual. Negotiate.

Tim Pool (96:33)

Baby talk will make your baby have a speech impediment.

Tate Brown (96:35)

Yeah, that is true. But as far as like you know, being able to communicate tonally.

Ian Crossland (96:39)

Yeah, that tonal communication.

Tate Brown (96:41)

As far as we know. I've seen throughout antiquity that people did baby talk forever.

Adam Salinas (96:44)

So keep talking to the month year old. Like if he's of fathers should do that.

Tate Brown (96:49)

I think the father.

Tim Pool (96:49)

Well the way, the way it used to be for most of human history is that the baby for like the first year or so is just basically hanging out with mom at a certain point. The baby is like the, the, the, the male children are around the dads watching dad you know, hit a hammer and like you know, smelt or whatever it is he was doing. Chopping wood. And the girls were hanging out with mom, watching mom churn butter or whatever she was doing. And they were, the children weren't. Here's my thing, My rule is no kids programming. This is an invention of the last hundred years and it's mind warping, psychopathic garbage. Children throughout history did not have children's programming. They didn't have goofy looking horses dancing around singing hot dog songs with mice, a creepy ass, whatever it is. And so what's happening now is we are raising our generations under the assumption that, that I gotta be honest, guys, just seriously answer me this. What is the logic behind sticking a child in front of a bunch of DMT tripping anthropomorphized animals singing random nonsense like the hot dog song?

Ian Crossland (97:51)

Ian, it's better than them going out till 1am with their friends and drinking.

Tim Pool (97:56)

What?

Ian Crossland (97:56)

I mean, you're talking about dude. Like why do you want your kids at home vegging out? Because you don't want them out causing trouble.

Tim Pool (98:03)

I'm about 2 year olds so it's.

Ian Crossland (98:04)

What else are they going to be doing? I don't know.

Tim Pool (98:06)

15 year olds aren't watching Mickey Mouse sing the hot dogs.

Ian Crossland (98:08)

I hope not. There's a lot of garbage on the Internet.

Tim Pool (98:11)

But I was. I play video games. Turn. My two year old's gonna go hit the bar, put on Mickey Mouse.

Tate Brown (98:16)

My 2 year old won't go down for a nap.

Tim Pool (98:17)

He's hungover.

Adam Salinas (98:19)

They're clubbing tonight.

Ian Crossland (98:20)

Like what's the value of letting my mom letting her four year old veg on the Atari? You know, day in, day out day it turned out to be I didn't

Tim Pool (98:27)

go out drinking kid watch some BBC nature documentary.

Ian Crossland (98:29)

Oh yeah, yeah.

Tim Pool (98:30)

Where what's his Atenberg guy goes. The frog jumps from the ends in the water.

Ian Crossland (98:34)

I was less concerned about what it is is more concerned about what. Like what is not going to happen because this is happening. There are better things to watch for sure.

Tim Pool (98:42)

But it's good to have your kid

Ian Crossland (98:43)

at home, you know.

Tim Pool (98:43)

No, no, no. Wait, wait. What? Your two year old's not leaving.

Ian Crossland (98:46)

We talking about you want to like establish a safe environment that they can enjoy.

Tim Pool (98:49)

Yeah. And. And the point is there is literally no logical reason whatsoever to have your kid watch psychobabble garbage.

Ian Crossland (98:55)

I agree with.

Tim Pool (98:56)

Yeah, right. Put on. Put on. You'd be better off putting an AI Thunderstorm video that can stare at the screen. And that's bad too.

Ian Crossland (99:03)

Just a Celtic music.

Tate Brown (99:04)

Yeah. My dad bro, just put on.

Tim Pool (99:05)

Put on music videos. Just put on visualizers and play some three Dogs blocks.

Ian Crossland (99:10)

Have them build things.

Tate Brown (99:11)

My dad put on NASCAR so I could learn the numbers.

Tim Pool (99:14)

It worked.

Ian Crossland (99:15)

We're fake money and let them count and learn about economics and stuff.

Tate Brown (99:18)

Just couldn't count above a hundred.

Tim Pool (99:19)

I told. I told my wife the best thing is when we teach our daughter how to play poker because it's basically about learning about math and values and blackjack as well. So we're gonna. We're gonna play blackjack. Yeah.

Ian Crossland (99:30)

First grade is when I got my first fake cardboard cutout money and I could learn like a dime is worth this. That was like at age 5 or 6.

Adam Salinas (99:36)

Do that.

Tim Pool (99:37)

Teach.

Ian Crossland (99:37)

Get the economy stuff out of the way early.

Tim Pool (99:39)

There's not gonna be physical money, bro. Yeah.

Phil Avanti (99:41)

I mean yeah.

Ian Crossland (99:42)

Teach about history in history class. You can teach them about cash.

Commercial Announcer (99:45)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (99:46)

I'm like none of these weird Kids songs. And, you know, my attitude is,

Ian Crossland (99:52)

you

Tim Pool (99:53)

want to teach your child what it means to be a functioning adult with values. Right. Do you today, as an adult, find value in the green Grass Grows All Around? No. But you have fond memories of being a little kid and singing that song. Maybe, but it never comes up. I will tell you this. I can sing Bohemian Rhapsody. So my point is, what creates social connections and is better play classic music for your kid? Cut out the vulgar stuff. Stuff. But, you know, Sound of Silence. Come on. And then your kid will grow up knowing all of these classic songs and have some actual connection to your culture and your history.

Phil Avanti (100:25)

This is a true story. The first song that my kid heard, ever heard was Hammer Smashed Face by Cannibal Corps. Not kidding around. Driving home. Put that in.

Tim Pool (100:33)

Mine was Bizarre Love Triangle. I don't know that was that.

Science/Study Narrator (100:36)

Fine.

Tim Pool (100:40)

What you call it?

Phil Avanti (100:41)

Metric?

Ian Crossland (100:42)

No.

Tim Pool (100:43)

Hades. Blue Monday. You know?

Adam Salinas (100:48)

No.

Tim Pool (100:48)

I remember asking, the chat's gonna go off and be like, how did you forget the name Blue Monday?

Tate Brown (100:52)

New Order.

Tim Pool (100:53)

Yeah. New Order.

Tate Brown (100:54)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (100:55)

Newer, Bizarre Love Triangle. Every time I think of you I feel a shot right through with a bolt of blue.

Adam Salinas (101:02)

Take out the guitar, man.

Ian Crossland (101:03)

It was.

Tim Pool (101:04)

Well, so we have a. We have a Super Chat goal before we go to Super Chats. And I. I suspected that when I made this goal, it was never going to complete, which was kind of the point because normally when I put Phil will scream, people start super chatting. Like, let's go. We only have 14 out of 50 because I put Ian will sing.

Carter Banks (101:19)

Oh, well, last time does happen.

Phil Avanti (101:23)

How many was it last time, though? I think it was only 20, wasn't it?

Tim Pool (101:25)

No, it's 50.

Ian Crossland (101:25)

Was it 50?

Carter Banks (101:26)

Sure. Yeah. But I announced it like halfway through, so I think people started thinking about it and contributing to Ian singing. Yeah, yeah.

Ian Crossland (101:32)

Get those five dollar Super Chats rolling in right now. Five or more.

Tim Pool (101:35)

Wait, I. I figured it out. Can I edit it? Yes. No, I should put. If we give us 50 super chats or else Ian will sing, that might work too.

Carter Banks (101:46)

Parallel ones maybe.

Tim Pool (101:48)

No, I don't think you can. I think you can just do the one. All right, we're gonna go to your Rumble rants and Super Chat. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone in your life that you love or hate. Before you do, my friends, you gotta go to wallet.rumble.com and pick up the rubble. Wallet. This is a non custodial wallet app. What does that mean? It means you can trade Bitcoin tether and tether, gold tether. Basically, it's a cryptocurrency that works one for one with the dollar. Look into it, figure out how it works. But it's basically representing a dollar through crypto, so it's easy to transact with people and tether. Gold is the same thing, but for gold. So let's say you are concerned that someone wants to ban you from banking, which we have seen over and over again. Rumble Wallet can't do that because it's called non custodial, meaning they don't actually have access to your accounts to ban you. So your money's yours forever, and you can use it on Rumble to tip your favorite shows and creators. If you want to tip the show, you can use the Rumble Wallet or you can just download it so you can send money to your friends if you want to, you know, buy pizza or someone owes you money. Rumble Wallet's fantastic, and you don't got to worry about someone banning you. So let's say you want to do a show. Maybe you've got naughty opinions. You get the Rumble Wallet app. And if people are. If they're. If they're tipping you and you're getting money through there, you don't got to worry about getting banned from banking the way we've seen so many people get banned. So check it out. Wallet.rumble.com. but for now, let's grab your Rumble rants and see what you guys got going on. The legend Dano says the donors will absolutely write those checks. Remember how Newsom said he was going to raise minimum wage for food workers, yet somehow, if you make bread like how Panera Bread does, they are exempt? Yep, that was funny. I don't know.

Phil Avanti (103:21)

I'm not convinced.

Tim Pool (103:23)

Alex Stein's love. I'm sorry. Alex Stein's coffee should have been called Love Potion Number Stein. That's a good one. Also, you've told the story of your friend saying, start a skate park and then we'll help. Your friends are here. Keep fighting. Yeah. The story that I talk about is how back in the day in Chicago, I got all my friends and say, hey, if we all put 100 bucks in right now, we can rent a warehouse and have somewhere to skate in the winter. And the response from all of them was, you do it and then let us know and we'll think about spending money on it. And I'm like, okay, like, well, we have to build it. You know, like, what, I'm supposed to just front all of the money and then let you come and skate my park?

Phil Avanti (103:58)

The investors invest First.

Tim Pool (104:00)

Yeah, right. You know, you know what I should have said? I should have said, okay, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna open it and all of you are gonna be banned from it. And I'm gonna invite everybody else. That's right.

Tate Brown (104:11)

I like it.

Tim Pool (104:13)

All right, let's see. Jarvis says. Anyone else find it interesting? Tim conveniently got sick the weekend I. The new World of Warcraft expansion. Early releases.

Ian Crossland (104:20)

Oh, are you all night?

Tim Pool (104:21)

Just kidding, man. Glad you're feeling better, bro. I ain't playing that World of Warcraft garbage, bro.

Tate Brown (104:26)

He was in Tel Aviv consulting with Netanyahu.

Ian Crossland (104:28)

Strategy emergency.

Tim Pool (104:30)

I'm gonna. I'm gonna.

Phil Avanti (104:31)

I'm just gonna say, talking about.

Tim Pool (104:33)

I am an OG World of Warcraft from way back in, in the 2000s. Vanilla 60 level cap. I was Field Marshal, PvP gear Alteric Valley champ. Rogue was my main, but I had a couple other level 60s. I had a priest and thank you for your service, man. The game was so incredible back then. It was really difficult, but it was so much fun because when you were leveling up from 1 to 60 in the OG World of Warcraft, it was moderately difficult. Like there were tasks to be done, but every step of the way had its regions and it had its people, it had its adventures. So I had friends who were level 60 when I was leveling 23, and they. I couldn't really do much with them because you don't get the experience of they're running you through a dungeon or whatever. But you could get.

Adam Salinas (105:17)

You could.

Tim Pool (105:18)

You could get gear, but so usually they just. We would be in like. I think we use. What was it? Team speak or was it. No, we use. What was it?

Ian Crossland (105:24)

Skype. We used to.

Tim Pool (105:25)

What was the other one? Not Teamspeak. I think we use team speak, irc, vc?

Tate Brown (105:29)

I don't know.

Ian Crossland (105:30)

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. There's another one with a V. Yeah, maybe.

Tim Pool (105:33)

I don't know. And so back in the day, there's something. There were things called instances. They were. So you've got the World of Warcraft, this big open world game, and there were missions, dungeons with bosses with. With better gear that you could loot off their bodies. But once you go in, only you and your party can go in and do it. And so depending on how good you are at the game, but basically you need a party of friends to go and do it. Only problem, how do you find them? You'd go into forums, you'd go into chat rooms, you'd ask someone else, like, is there a guild? It was really difficult, but you had to externally figure out how to find a group of people to play the game with. Yo. I know people who got married playing that game.

Tate Brown (106:12)

Wow.

Tim Pool (106:13)

They met each other. And so I'm running around and someone runs by and they got a guild name and they'd say like, hey, you don't got a guild. You want to join, Iris? And I'd be like, done. And then they send you the invite, you join. All of a sudden you have a group of people and you go, hey, guys, I'm trying to do, you know, ultimate or something. And they'd be like, let's see if there's anybody available. No one's gonna be on for a little bit, but. And then you're like, this is great. And then you've got a group of new friends you just met. And so I remember the first time doing a 40 man raid. 40 people. And it was crazy because you literally had to find 40 people. So the guild would put out a message on their website saying, guys, Saturday, 7:00pm, 40 man raid. Sign up now. And then you'd start signing up. And then we'd go and do like AQ on courage or I think Zulf Rock was a 20 man. And it was so much fun. So much fun. And here's the crazy thing. After the raid, the boss drops like two pieces of gear for 40 people. And so you had to roll. You had to put type slash roll. And then whoever got the highest number, they'd first be like, okay, who can use leather? And it's like the Druids and the Rogues. And they go, okay, only Druids and Rogues roll. And then six people roll. And then they go, okay, this guy wins. Here's the gear. And then you're like, well, I guess I have to come back and do it again. So much fun. And then I played until Wrath of the Lich King and, you know, Burning Crusade. I was like, okay, you know, level cap went up and I'll play. And it was, it was, it was fun to keep playing, but it was losing its spark. And then Rathalich King was really good and I didn't really play it too much. I came back for Warlords of Draenor and was a fairly disappointed. And then I played Legion. And I played Legion extensively. I unlocked Void Elves, went super nuts with it. But I was getting pissed off because at this point, raids were. You click a button and it would randomly assign you to a group of people doing a Dungeon and then randomly give out piece of gear to a random person. No more human interaction.

Ian Crossland (108:06)

It's one step away from you just inviting my bot to the raid and I'll just sit here while my bot plays for me.

Tim Pool (108:11)

Exactly.

Adam Salinas (108:12)

It.

Tate Brown (108:12)

What.

Tim Pool (108:13)

What made the game work originally was that you had to work really hard to make friends, and everybody wanted to be your friend because you had a shared mission.

Ian Crossland (108:21)

I used to build guilds for that purpose. I was all about guilds.

Tim Pool (108:25)

Dude, you could hate somebody. You could be like, man, I just hate leftists. But that wouldn't come up because you'd be like, bro, I need someone. I've got an. I got. I'm creating a warrior and I want to go do vc and I need some friends who can, you know, join on with me. And you never really talk about that stuff. You made real friends. Hey, where are you from? I knew a guy's like, I live in Canada. I'm like, wow, where in Canada? He's like, oh, I live in Alberta.

Ian Crossland (108:47)

I used to go so hard on that. And then in 2010, YouTube took off. It was like Internet video became my video game. It became more fun and community building and, like, challenging than the Warcraft and other online games. That's sort of why I transitioned away from. I mean, I still game as much as I can, but dude, stuff like this is like so much more rewarding because you're still solving problems and developing equations and beating the boss, which is Jasmine Crockett or whoever.

Tim Pool (109:14)

I'm hoping that this message, like, what made the OG World of Warcraft so big, Will, like, there was a. A server, this is a while ago that was running what's called like a vanilla version, a classic Warcraft, and it got shut down with Blizzard. I say Wizards. Blizzard basically was like, you're stealing our ip, Shut it down. And they were running a private server where you could play the original version of the game because everyone thought the expansion sold. So then they were like, okay, we're gonna relaunch Classic. So everybody who likes the original game can play. And then they just start doing the same thing. And I'm like, I played it for a little bit and I'm like, no, this is dumb. This is dumb. It was fun when I had to go in for the first time into like teamspeak and turn the mic on and be like, hey, guys, what's up? Don't know anybody. I'm trying to do it, you know, ultimate or something. And they'd be like, yo, what's up? Where you from? And I'd oh, I'm from here. You're meeting people, you're hanging out with people. That was the only thing that mattered. That's why it was fun.

Tate Brown (110:07)

Fun.

Tim Pool (110:08)

If you, you'd be bored in the game, you'd be like, well, I maxed out all my levels, I got all the best gear. And then there'd be people like, yo, bro, I need help. I'm trying to go get this thing. Like, let's go. And it wasn't that the game didn't matter. It got to a point where you got the best gear, but it was going to hang out with your friends for a menial task. But it was just hanging out with your friends that was fun. I told my buddy yesterday, Bryce, about Monastery bro.

Ian Crossland (110:31)

Oh, I still think about it, dude. Is that playing video games, there's like

Tim Pool (110:35)

two types of rewards.

Ian Crossland (110:36)

There's what you get in the game, items, experience. And then there's what you develop as a human from playing it. You can get better at the game, then that seeds into other areas of your life. And now you're quicker at conversation or you're more confident in a room because you beat the hell out of that game. So keep that in mind when playing. A lot of times, you know, altruism can really, really make you a better person.

Tim Pool (110:56)

Let's grab some more. We got same old man. It says Tim calling the kettle black. Aren't you with screaming at politics but you won't run. I thought it was self evident that I was being self deprecating when I complained about beanie wearing dudes with folded sleeves complaining on the Internet, refusing to run for office quite literally. The point is there are too many podcasters who complain and don't actually run. But I gotta be honest, like, bro, I mean, I'm in West Virginia and Riley Moore is my rep. I'm chilling, like, we good here, you know, like he won and he's doing what we want him to do. So I don't, I don't need to run.

Phil Avanti (111:28)

You have to move and like I

Tim Pool (111:30)

have to move somewhere else.

Tate Brown (111:31)

You gotta get a carpet bag now.

Ian Crossland (111:33)

The sacrifice Bongino made to set that show down to go serve like he did. Like, what a loss for that brief period of time. I still haven't talked to him since he's, since he's out, like he's out of place.

Tim Pool (111:43)

It was a loss the whole time because as much as I can respect the street level policing they did, we were hoping that he was going to be more targeting the corruption and I guess for whatever reasons, he couldn't or wouldn't do it. So, you know, everybody wants to. I'm going to say this. Everybody wants to attack Dan like crazy. And I'm like, eh, you can't get mad at someone for not doing you a favor. You know what I mean? You can be disappointed and wish that Deputy Bongino was going to do a lot more. He didn't do it. I then I say, okay, Bongino, keep rallying the troops, pushing them in the right direction. I'm not going to hold a grudge against somebody for not doing me a favor. It's stupid.

Adam Salinas (112:13)

What podcaster do you think should step up to that role and possibly.

Tim Pool (112:18)

Oh no, I don't know.

Adam Salinas (112:19)

None at all. Because in what?

Tim Pool (112:21)

No, because the truth is podcasters are good at being podcasters and there's value this show brings that would be lost if I ran for office, right? I mean, millions of views per day gone. So that I can represent one small district would be a bad idea to go Senate would be only to represent one state. Well, I'm not gonna run for president. You know what I mean? So it's like there's not an effective office for national, nationally hosted shows, you

Tate Brown (112:43)

know, and the list of podcasters that shouldn't run for office 10 times longer,

Phil Avanti (112:49)

I mean, and also you have to think of like, you know, know what seats are they going to be filling? Like, just because they're a podcaster that, you know, that you think has good ideas or whatever doesn't mean. Or they have charisma or whatever doesn't mean that they're in a place where you want them to run and you're asking someone to uproot their life, go to a new place, and then are the people there going to vote for someone that just moved there to, you know, in order to go to go to Congress? Most likely.

Tate Brown (113:12)

Primary in Dallas is like 80 podcasters running in the same primary because everyone's

Adam Salinas (113:16)

like, I'm running for office.

Ian Crossland (113:17)

There will be a YouTuber that serves as president at some point though. Will it be you?

Phil Avanti (113:23)

Not me.

Tim Pool (113:23)

I don't know about YouTube. What's the, what's the newest. They're doing Warcraft midnight served on YouTube.

Tate Brown (113:28)

I did three.

Tim Pool (113:29)

You know, you know, the problem.

Ian Crossland (113:31)

14 years.

Tim Pool (113:32)

You know, the problem with war, with problems with Warcraft. World of Warcraft is especially.

Ian Crossland (113:36)

Please tell me. I want to talk about it all night.

Tim Pool (113:38)

Actually, it was just, it got like. First of all, let me just stress. Pandaria was when they nuked World of Warcraft.

Adam Salinas (113:45)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (113:45)

That was truly the end of it.

Ian Crossland (113:46)

The infantilization of that cheap game guys made for little kids.

Tim Pool (113:50)

So you get Wrath. It was right for Wrath of Lich King. Right? Was when they did Mr. Penn.

Ian Crossland (113:53)

It was right after I quit too. I stopped during.

Tim Pool (113:54)

Okay. The intro to Wrath of the Lich King is a cinematic masterpiece. It, like, the story sends chills down my spine. It's tremendous writing. Blizzard has always had such incredible narrative. The. I don't know if you guys. Nobody really plays Overwatch anymore, but do you. Did you ever see the short film the Last Bastion? No. Oh, my God. There's not a single word said in that short film. And talk about some of the best narrative storytelling. Ratha Lich King's intro was just like. I watched at like, wow. The story is so incredible. They. Basically, the way it works is you're watching the Lich King. He's. He's effectively undead. He's evil and he's raising a bone army at the same time. There is the narrative of his father reading a letter to him about how he wishes when he grows up he'll be a great man. And he turns into this, like, plague of evil.

Ian Crossland (114:47)

So good Prince Arthas, he gets overcome with rage trying to hunt the villain. He becomes the villain he's trying to destroy. And then he becomes the Lich King itself. It's this horror story of, like, rage and how but his like anger can

Tim Pool (114:57)

destroy being like, son, may you be a noble ruler. And it shows him raising up like. Like. Like an undead army. It's so good. But here's the thing. After that Mists of Pandaria and you what that is it. It was literally the Kung Fu Panda expansion. Not a joke. Oh, God. It was. It was literally an island discovered in Azeroth where there's a bunch of pandaren. They are panda people and they do kung fu. I believe they talk like this. They talk a recordish. And I was like, okay. Aside from how hilarious that was, it was just so.

Adam Salinas (115:28)

It's okay. Okay.

Tim Pool (115:30)

It removed all of the serious element. It was always a little bit cartoony compared to like Final Fantasy Online or whatever, but it was still relatively serious and horrifying. Like, what's her face? I forget the names. Who's the. The elf lady who died? No, she gets Sylvanas.

Ian Crossland (115:50)

Sylvanas?

Tim Pool (115:51)

Yeah. She. She's like becomes a Lich.

Ian Crossland (115:53)

Oh, yeah.

Tim Pool (115:54)

And so it's like. And. And now she's. She's condemned that even if she's. Whether she's good or evil. As a Lich, she will always go to hell or whatever. Oh, God, it's such great storytelling. And then they're like, and now there is Kung Fu Pandas at Takaraka Dish. And I was like, okay, I guess I'm not playing this game anymore.

Phil Avanti (116:10)

The things that I don't like about Magic the Gathering now is they've got all the weird expansions where. Oh, bro. They've got Star wars characters, I guess, or something like that. And they've got Marvel characters.

Tim Pool (116:18)

And there's a really funny video where guys at Walmart. He's like, guys, this is amazing. They're doing a big promo for Magic the Gathering characters. It's crazy to see Magic the Gathering ip, like, at Walmart. And then the camera turns around. It's Oreo cookies. Marvel with, like, the Hulk and, like, Iron Man. And he's like, look at all these Magic the Gathering characters. And. And, bro, like, they did Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. They are burning Magic the Gathering to the ground.

Ian Crossland (116:42)

Oh, okay. I heard it's gonna be bad. My friend was like, dude, this is gonna be.

Tim Pool (116:46)

It's. It's. There's. They're saying it's worse than Spider Man.

Adam Salinas (116:48)

I know, bro.

Ian Crossland (116:51)

You got the original TMNT up top.

Tim Pool (116:52)

I got the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles right there. The OG The OG it was a parody of Daredevil written in.

Phil Avanti (117:02)

In Northampton, Massachusetts, after.

Ian Crossland (117:04)

In the 90s.

Tim Pool (117:05)

That is the original teenage girls. And in fact, they didn't have different color bandanas.

Ian Crossland (117:10)

Oh, yeah.

Tim Pool (117:11)

Because it's all black and white.

Phil Avanti (117:12)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (117:12)

I also have the original Deadpool, which is New Mutants 98. I got that.

Ian Crossland (117:16)

That was.

Tim Pool (117:16)

That was like, my friend.

Ian Crossland (117:17)

I got into comics.

Tim Pool (117:17)

Additionally, I don't know where, but we have a, like, 9.5 original vision Avengers somewhere. I just lost it.

Ian Crossland (117:25)

The origin of the first appearance of Vision.

Tim Pool (117:27)

Yeah, yeah, dude.

Ian Crossland (117:29)

Deadpool is my jam. I thought he was super cheap when they created.

Tim Pool (117:32)

I want. I want to stress this to all of you listening right now. What they have taken from us. I just have to stress that he took the fire hose, bro.

Ian Crossland (117:40)

Which was.

Tim Pool (117:41)

I want to. I want to tell you guys one

Ian Crossland (117:42)

idea at a time.

Tim Pool (117:43)

I want to tell you guys a story about the importance of Star the Next Generation. And it always frustrates me when people go like, oh, I hate sci fi. And I always tell them, like, ignore the sci fi. I don't care. And replace everything they're saying with real world conflict. There's an episode called. I think it's called the Defector. One of the greatest lines in Star Trek, the Enterprise. So ignore Romulan, ignore Federation, Klingon, whatever, okay? An enemy is fleeing a warship that's shooting at him. He crosses over into our territory in violation of the treaties we have because it's a ceasefire. They then bring this guy, and he's a refugee, with information dire to the Federation and we don't know if we believe him. The simple version is he says the Romulans are planning to launch a war against the Federation to violate the ceasefire and they're doing it from this location. And I had to tell you to stop this war. It's gonna kill everybody and they shouldn't do it.

Adam Salinas (118:40)

It.

Tim Pool (118:41)

And so they go to this planet and they find nothing. And the admiral who defected is like, I don't understand. And then all of a sudden, two Romulan warships appear next to the Fed, like, in front. They decloak. They have cloaking technology the Federation does not. And they get hailed by the captain of the ship. And he says, you are going to surrender. Like, we have caught you in the Neutral Zone territory. You will surrender as prisoners of war. And then we will tow your Enterprise back to our home planet where we will dissect it and put it on display to inspire Romulans for generations to come. And then Picard says, that would, you know, it's like, that. That is unacceptable. And he's like, I will give you 30 seconds to make your decision. And he goes, I won't need but one. And he's like, surrender is unacceptable. Then Tomaloch, the other guy, says, think about the men and women that you would lead and sacrifice by your decisions. And then Picard smirks and says, every man and woman on my vessel would sacrifice their lives if the cause is right. And then he says, the question is, Tamaluk, are you prepared to do the same? Are you prepared to die today? And he laughs and says, I'd expect more from you than idle threats. Picard then goes, and you shall have them, Mr. Worf. And then Klingon warships, allies of the Federation, decloak around the Romulans. And then Tomalok gets all pissed off, realizing he's outgunned, and he goes, you will not survive our assault fault. And then Picard says, and you will not survive ours. Shall we die together? And that is one of the most epic lines, and there's many of them. And I stress this as much as people are like Star Trek has done. I want you to understand the masculinity in a captain of a naval vessel. Telling the enemy, we have outflanked you. And if you want to mess, if you. I'm going to avoid swearing. But if you decide that you want to fight, we will both die. Is that what you want? And I love that. I love that. That if you think you're going to come at me and my people, I would rather die than let you just take whatever you want. And I love that we don't have enough of that these days. Because now with the Star Trek garbage that we're getting, it's all this hoity toity woke garbage, feminized trash. And it's just. It is unacceptable for me as a little kid to watch Captain Picard walk up and say, shall we die together? I was like, wow. I'm like, that's what it means to be a man. I would rather lose everything than give you a free shot at taking my people prisoner. And I'm just like, that is badass. And now you watch Star Trek and it's ridiculous. Woke trash where the women are like, the Federation is colonial and imperialist and engaged in propaganda. Not even a joke. That's actually from the latest show. Really? Yeah. So anyway, I'm gonna stress it again. We need masculine culture. We need content, we need narratives, we need stories for young men to be told what it means to be a man. And that is why I am so deeply pissed off about Kurtzman Trek and what they have done to this storied and incredible intellectual property. And I fully understand many of the original series episodes and TNG were very liberal. Bro. Captain Picard literally says in an episode, diversity is our strength. Strength, that's fine as long as there is a masculine military leader saying, prepare for war, we're about to die. And understanding those threats, and for that matter, Deep Space Nine, bro. Man, Great. Really?

Phil Avanti (122:01)

Deep Space Nine is the captain's name.

Ian Crossland (122:04)

He talks like this.

Tim Pool (122:05)

So what?

Ian Crossland (122:06)

Why does he fake his talking? No one speaks like that, bro.

Tim Pool (122:10)

In the Pale moonlight is probably the greatest television episode of television ever made. In the pale Moonlight.

Ian Crossland (122:19)

What happened was they did the Voyager and that the girl was the Captain.

Phil Avanti (122:23)

She did DS9 first, wasn't it?

Tim Pool (122:25)

Yeah. And then so he just talks so weird. He like speaks. What, they talks like this?

Ian Crossland (122:31)

Yeah. Like, why not just talk?

Tim Pool (122:32)

I will not allow them to come into my base.

Ian Crossland (122:35)

And I think what he did was he. He mimicked Jean Luc Picard.

Tate Brown (122:38)

He.

Ian Crossland (122:38)

Patrick Stewart's theatrical because he was a Shakespearean actor. So Picard brought, you know, he brought that to the stage, to the, literally the stage of the, of the, of the.

Tim Pool (122:47)

I'm gonna, I'm gonna say for everybody.

Ian Crossland (122:49)

So the other guy just kind of took that weird boisterous like that and it didn't work.

Tim Pool (122:54)

I want to stress this to everybody, okay? Like the challenge within the Pale moonlight is understanding the full context of the next generation into Deep Space nine and where we're at. But basically simple version because we're Talking about a 30 year old show at this point. Benjamin Sisko is a. He's a military leader. He's a relatively like these are liberal people. They are like traditional 90s liberal types that believe in freedom and equality and presented with the Alpha Quadrant is being invaded and the Federation is losing the war and Sisko decides we have to force the Romulans into the war on our side. And then when they say surely the Dominion who they're at war with is. Will attack the Romulans after we're defeated, let's find the evidence they can't. He goes to Garrick, a former black ops guy who's now a tailor, quote unquote because he's not really right. And he's like how do we get this evidence? And he's like let's try. And then he comes back and says there isn't any but we'll fabricate it. And then Sisko thinks they're going to fabricate evidence to trick the Romulans. But Garak actually the whole plan the whole time was to assassinate the Romulan senator. Framing the Dominion, a false flag attack to trick the Romulans into going to war with our enemy. Like think about what that means for a show that was predicated upon this liberal beauty of like exploring the galaxy and diversity being our strength. To outright admit. Cuz the episode is split between Sisko narrating in his personal log the difficulty that he had to come. Like the difficult decision in falsifying evidence to try and trick another nation into going to war on your behalf but recognizing if we don't do this we will be destroyed. And that is something that I think conservatives need to understand right now. And they don't. They don't get it. So this is like 1998. You have a show that is explaining there comes a time in war where your principles will be tested and if you stand by them, you will die. Good luck.

Ian Crossland (124:58)

And so how many times. Oh, I want to hear the rest of that. But how many times a false flag actually saved people's like saved the country?

Tim Pool (125:04)

Probably. But the, and, and the point is they blew up assassinating A Romulan senator to frame the Dominion. And it worked. And the Romulans enter the war. And dude, I play a lot of

Ian Crossland (125:16)

crusader kings and I love a good, good fabricated claim. I mean, you want to take land, get some paperwork filed, make it look like they did something wrong or they don't. They don't deserve it. And it's yours.

Tim Pool (125:26)

All right, everybody, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast, good sir. Would you like to shout anything out? Would you like to shout anything out before we go?

Adam Salinas (125:41)

I mean, if you guys don't follow me already, you guys can follow me on Tick Tock, Instagram, Facebook, and I'm trying to start on my YouTube. I just activated a X account, so make sure to follow me there at Grace Unfiltered 92. And I'm just very grateful to be on here and to hear different sides, different opinions and thank you. Thank you guys so much.

Phil Avanti (125:59)

Thanks, man.

Tate Brown (126:00)

Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram @realtate Brown. And I'll be back with you guys tomorrow at noon Eastern for another installation of the Tim Cast News Noon Live show.

Ian Crossland (126:09)

Ian, I. I want to remind you, go to Casper.com pick up this Alex Stein's Booty Juice. It's not that it's called Big Booty Latina Love Potion. It's the new Casper. Coffee is delicious.

Tim Pool (126:18)

I just had some earlier.

Ian Crossland (126:18)

And you follow me at Ian Crossland. All on the Internet. Really?

Tim Pool (126:22)

Go to Graphene Movie.

Ian Crossland (126:23)

If you haven't been over there yet, check out the trailer for this new documentary I'm working on about graphene and other nanotech. Pretty badass. See you later.

Phil Avanti (126:30)

I am Phil that Remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. We're going on tour this spring. We're heading out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. We start in Albany on April 29th. You can check the band's music all that remains online.com to get tickets. You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

Carter Banks (126:51)

I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me everywhere at Carter Banks. We didn't meet our goal for Ian to sing tonight, but you can find some of his live sessions at Trash house Records on YouTube. A lot of good stuff. We're gonna record a song soon, but anyway, thanks so much for coming out. Man had really appreciated you to come out and talk with us. Let's get to the after show.

Tim Pool (127:09)

Tim, we'll see you all over@rumble.com Timcast IRL in about 37 seconds.

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