HE WON'T GET AWAY WITH IT w/ Kangmin Lee & Davey Jax

Summary

Timcast IRL – Episode Summary

Episode Title: HE WON'T GET AWAY WITH IT w/ Kangmin Lee & Davey Jax
Date: February 14, 2026
Host: Timcast Media (Phil sitting in for Tim Pool)
Guests: Kangmin Lee, Davey Jackson, Ian Crossland, Elad Eliyahu

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Timcast IRL crew, joined by cultural commentator Kangmin Lee and stand-up comedian Davey Jackson, dives into the fallout from Don Lemon's involvement in the Minnesota church protest, the politicization of protest actions under the FACE Act, increasing radicalization and violence on the left, gender politics, and the shifting landscapes of American and international identity.

The discussion is raw, opinionated, and blends humor with sharp criticisms of media narratives and political double standards. The conversation transitions from serious legal analyses to debates on social trends, masculinity, and cultural identity, particularly in the context of Korea and America.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Don Lemon and the Minnesota Church Protest ([01:41]-[18:57])

• Incident Recap: Don Lemon, former CNN anchor, pleaded not guilty to charges related to his presence at a protest disrupting a Minnesota church service. Protesters targeted the church alleging that its pastor was affiliated with ICE.

• Press vs. Protester: The panel debates whether Lemon's actions—bringing coffee to protesters, using “we” language, and acting as more than an observer—disqualify his "journalist" defense and instead position him as an active participant or even collaborator.

  "You can't make the claim he wasn't collaborating with them when he literally got them coffee and he was saying, we. We did this..." – Kangmin Lee ([13:23])

• Bias in Media Narratives: The crew criticizes media coverage that frames Lemon as a journalist rather than a protester, accusing mainstream outlets of “poisoning the well.”

  "I love the fact that right off the bat they're taking a side... they're poisoning the well right off the bat." – Phil ([03:58])

• First Amendment Misinterpretation: There’s strong criticism of using First Amendment rights to justify protester actions that disrupt religious services.

  "I think the founders are rolling in their graves because it is such a bastardization of what the First Amendment was there for." – Kangmin Lee ([06:33])

• FACE Act Double Standards: The team points out that pro-life protesters have been arrested under the same law for less, and that consistency requires Lemon and associated protesters to face prosecution.

• Political Martyrdom: The panel notes that prosecution could bolster Lemon’s standing on the left, turning him into a “martyr for the cause.” ([20:55])

• Legal Precedent & Process as Punishment: The importance of setting and enforcing legal precedent is discussed, with some arguing that even indictment without conviction (the process) is its own punishment.

2. Political Violence: Leftist Radicalization & Protests ([31:44]-[61:44])

• Arson Attempt in Kansas City: Coverage of a failed arson attack on a proposed ICE detention center brings humor, disdain, and exasperation at failed activism and radicalization on TikTok.

• Escalation of Violence: Noted increase in left-wing violence targeting ICE and related facilities, including a recent 18-year-old arrested over a plot to behead ICE agents.

  "These leftists really are getting far more brazen in their attacks..." – Phil ([59:38])

• Online Radicalization: Social media platforms, particularly Reddit and TikTok, are highlighted as breeding grounds for memes and rhetoric justifying violence, especially among self-identified trans activists.

  "These memes…[about] themselves shooting or killing people… they get hundreds of thousands of likes." – Kangmin Lee ([61:44])

• Normalization and Apologia: Discussion of left-wing politicians and influencers valorizing protest violence, with media often minimizing or obfuscating details, especially in cases involving trans individuals.

  "It's mainstream to justify the murder of Charlie Kirk on the left, not liberals...but leftists justified the murder of Charlie Kirk without question." – Elad Eliyahu ([61:58])

• Global Manipulation & Technocratic Fears: Ian speculates that America’s social unraveling and increasing violent incidents might be a pretext for technocratic control and surveillance.

3. Gender Politics, Masculinity, and Korean/US Cultural Dynamics ([38:26]-[86:20])

• American vs. Korean Gender Divide:

  • Kangmin Lee contrasts gender polarization in the U.S. (women more left-wing, men slightly right-leaning) to Korea (men much more right-wing, but women not as anti-men), exploring the cultural roots of declining marriage and birthrates.

  • Reliance on extended family and “village” support is missing in modern Korea and America, making motherhood isolating.

    "No woman has lived like that [completely alone with children]… So if we want to go back to a traditional lifestyle for families…we also have to restructure society." – Kangmin Lee ([41:15])

• Masculinity & Feminism:

  • Panel laments the consequences of diminished masculine authority, blaming feminism for severing healthy bonds between men and women.

  • “Domestication” and the rise of “spineless men” are bemoaned, with calls to restore positive masculine energy, set boundaries, and provide security.

    "Women don’t like a spineless man, you know." – Phil ([45:54])

• Modern Romance, Authority & Marrige:

  • Anecdotes and jokes about dating, boundaries in relationships, biological drives, and confused contemporary gender roles.
  • Critique of “boss babe” ideology and praise for traditional male protection roles as stabilizing to society.

4. American Identity, Assimilation, and Dual Citizenship ([86:20]-[103:46])

• Eileen Gu (Olympic Athlete) Controversy:

  • Debate over loyalty, dual citizenship, and the expectations that athletes choose national allegiance—especially when representing authoritarian states like China.

  • Discussion on the risks posed by nationals with family in China; potential for coercion by Chinese authorities.

    "If you're a Chinese national here and you have family in China, you are a security threat." – Phil ([89:02])

• Immigration and Political Power:

  • Kangmin Lee describes giving up Korean citizenship to become American, expresses mixed feelings about identity and assimilation, and argues that immigrants (especially first generation) should not hold high public office in the U.S.

    "People say I'm a self-hating immigrant. No, like I love who I am...but at the same time, I recognize that I'm an immigrant, I'm a guest and I want America to be America as much as possible." – Kangmin Lee ([103:11])

• Panel Reflection on American Identity:

  • Is America built on shared values (“an idea”) or on ancestry and heritage ("a people")?—the panel presents both sides.
  • Differences between the U.S. (individualistic) and Korea (collectivist, patriarchal, honor culture).

5. Journalism, Media Bias & Information Ecosystem ([110:03])

• Bias & Media:

  • The line between activism and journalism is “increasingly blurred”; all media is inherently biased, and most people now choose echo chambers rather than neutral sources.

    "There's no such thing as unbiased journalism. ... It's just a matter of, we have to be able to discern what is truth and what is fiction." – Kangmin Lee ([110:52])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lemon’s Intent:
  “Intent matters too, and also that's proven in a court of law. But if you're just there to document what was going on, then, yes, it's fine, because it's just journalism. But clearly, Don Lemon had an agenda...” – Kangmin Lee ([14:29])

• On FACE Act Precedent:
  “...when the FACE Act was passed...they threw it in there [protections for religious services] to give a bone to conservatives. Because nobody protests churches…” – Phil ([14:58])

• On Martyrdom and Media:
  "People love a martyr, right? People love the martyr story." – Kangmin Lee ([21:25])

• On Gender Roles:
  “...as men, yes, we need to call out the faults and the sins of women in modern society. But we also need to step up as men and show women that hey, like there are good men who exist.” – Kangmin Lee ([77:47])

• On America as an Idea vs. a People:
  "I get what you're saying, but I just fundamentally reject that. America is an idea. America? America? Yeah. America is a people. And so it is a people." – Kangmin Lee ([98:09])

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Timestamps for Critical Segments

• [01:41] – First discussion of Don Lemon, protest, and media bias
• [06:33] – Kangmin: First Amendment is being weaponized
• [13:23] – Debate on Lemon’s role as protester vs. journalist
• [18:57] – On prosecutorial strategy and political optics for Trump DOJ
• [31:44] – Kansas City arson attempt & the failure of protest radicalism
• [59:38] – Plot to behead ICE agents and growing political extremism
• [61:44] – On trans shooter memes, online radicalization, and political apologia
• [86:20] – Olympic athlete Eileen Gu debate, China/US loyalties
• [98:09] – Immigrant assimilation: America idea or people?
• [110:03] – Journalism increasingly activist, media bias is unavoidable

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Tone and Style

The tone is abrasive, sardonic, often humorous, and unapologetically partisan, with both sharp moments of self-awareness and biting social critique. The interplay between Kangmin’s traditionalist views, Davey's irreverence, and Ian/Elad’s more philosophical takes create a dynamic, provocative conversation.

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Conclusion

This episode of Timcast IRL offers an unfiltered look at current events, free speech, and the complexities of American identity through the lens of independent, often dissenting commentary. The Lemon church protest saga serves as a springboard for broader critiques of legal double standards, the decay of centrist journalism, gender roles, online radicalization, and the struggle to define what America is—and should be.

This summary is designed for listeners who want the insights, controversy, and commentary of the episode without wading through ads, intros, and outtakes.

Transcript

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[Phil]

Joining us to talk about this and a bunch of other stuff, we got Kang Lee.

[Kangmin Lee]

What's up? Thanks for having me. Who are you?

[Phil]

What do you do?

[Kangmin Lee]

I am the fill in for Tim because we need some Korean representation out here. And so I am the Korean representative for today. My name is Kong Min Le. I am a speaker, a cultural commentator. I have two goals in life. It's one, to make heaven full by sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ and also to defend truth and tradition while we own the libs. Doing so.

[Phil]

Awesome. Dave Jackson's here.

[Davey Jackson]

What's up? Davey Jackson, stand up comedian and alleged criminal on the run, that's where can people find you? Social media at Davey Jacks.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Awesome.

[Phil]

Well, thank you. I liked your outfit, man.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. I hope the camera's flipping back and forth between the two of us.

[Davey Jackson]

Right now we look like long lost twins, but not quite. Maybe like a little inbreeding. Am I allowed to say that?

[Ian Crossland]

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[Phil]

You are allowed to say that.

[Ian Crossland]

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[Elad Eliyahu]

Not very kosher of me. Good evening everybody. I am Elad Eliyahu, White House correspondent here at Timcast and A good reporter according to the president. Kangmin, thank you so much for coming on. You're a prolific tweeter, so I'm ready to see that turned into some yapping on today's tonight's show.

[Kangmin Lee]

Many are saying that. Many say that I am Kongman the Rooftop Lee. Many have said that. So looking forward to a great show.

[Phil]

All right, so smash the like button, share the show with all your friends, head on over to Timcast.com and join our discord. Head over to Rumble and become a member there. So you can watch the after show, which it's Friday, so there's not gonna be an after show today, but you can watch Monday through Thursdays. We do the uncentered after show. We get to talk about whatever. We don't have to worry about the YouTube censorship, stu stuff. But we're going to jump right into it here from NBC News, Don Lemon pleads not guilty to Minnesota church protest charges. The former NBC former CNN anchor was inside a Church on January 18 when protesters disrupted a service. A pastor there demonstrators alleged worked for ICE, as if that justifies it, right? From St. Paul, Minnesota, journalist and former CNN anchor Don Lemon plead pleaded not guilty on Friday to charges connected to his coverage of protests over federal immigration enforcement in Minnesota. I mean, I love the fact that right off the bat they're taking aside. Right. Like they're, they're not saying was a participant. They're, they're saying that he was covering it. So they're, they're poisoning the well right off the bat. But NBC continues. During the brief, highly procedural hearing, Magistrate Judge Douglas L. Douglas L. Moo reminded Lemon of his constitutional rights and asked if he understood the charges against him. Lemon answered in the affirmative before the judge said he was free to travel unless he were to violate any state or federal laws. A prosecutor also revealed on Friday that authorities seized Lemon's phone during the arrest and have obtained a warrant. So they can look into it. Now that, I think is the actual interesting part, considering Lemon was, I mean, like I said earlier, he was, you know, if you, if you watch the videos, he was very much a participant. Right. So, so you. He's gonna use, obviously he's using the defense that, you know, it's the First Amendment right to, to cover this stuff, etc, but he showed up with coffee for all the people that were the protesters. You know, he was saying we, he continued to use the collective and to thank things.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah. Thank you for your what, what a bunch of warriors, you know.

[Phil]

Yeah. Impressive support the troops, you know, but I Think that that's the. The fact that they have the warrant for his phone is. Is probably going to be some pretty damning evidence. I mean, what do you. What do you think?

[Kangmin Lee]

I'm just saying I don't want to see what's in that phone, man. If you know anything about Don Levin, man, I don't want to see anything in that phone.

[Phil]

On stinky fingers.

[Kangmin Lee]

On stinky fingers. Hey, but I don't know if you guys saw that video. Sergio, do we have that video? There's a video going around where there's a bunch of women, like fat liberal women outside of his. Where he's being, you know, where whatever's happening in Minnesota, where they're. Where he's there and it's just fat liberal woman waving around dildos. Oh, really? I know this is a family friendly show, but I kid you not. This happened today, and I. Wnba Don.

[Davey Jackson]

Would be so proud.

[Kangmin Lee]

And it's like, what are we doing here? It's just. Yeah, fat liberal woman going around protesting. Remember your constitutional rights. Free the press. Free the press. And they're waving around dildos.

[Davey Jackson]

Does he even have press credentials still?

[Phil]

I mean, I think he does. I think technically, anyone that. That says that they're press nowadays kind of can be press.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Particularly when you're. You're not going into a place where you have to give authorization from, you know, from officials or what have you. And they certainly weren't looking for authorization from the church. They just stormed in and interrupted the service. And, I mean, from what it looked like on the videos that I saw, they were intimidating parishioners, trying to scare people. Don Lemon made comments afterwards about how, you know, he saw that people were intimidated, and that was basically a good thing. Or at least that's what he was alluding.

[Davey Jackson]

I think he just had a crush on the pastor. Dude, I wouldn't leave that guy alone.

[Kangmin Lee]

He's. He was a chad. I mean, that pastor was pretty much a chad. Supported ice. Love this country.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I believe he was an ice. He worked for ice, if I'm not mistaken.

[Davey Jackson]

Not the one he interviewed. It was a separate one.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Separate pastor.

[Davey Jackson]

Separate pastor was like, yeah, from that church.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Okay, so supposedly that's why. Why, by the way, I believe that church was targeted in particular because they. Not that that makes it right, but that's the reason why they targeted that church.

[Kangmin Lee]

But I think it's such a bastardization of the First Amendment. I think the founders saw that the First Amendment was being used to justify a bunch of ICE protesters storming into A church and disrupting a church service, I think they'd be very, very disappointed. I can't speak for them, of course, but I think they are rolling in their graves because it is such a bastardization of what the First Amendment was there for. And it's like, the gall of, say, oh, it's your First Amendment right to go in and storm a church while they're having a church service. It's like, is nothing sacred anymore? It's like. It's insane.

[Phil]

Well, not only that, just storming in and interrupting, that violates the First Amendment rights of all the people that are in the church. Like, people are forgetting about the fact that, you know, the. The protection of religious. Religious services or your right to express yourself, you know, or to practice your religion. That's in the First Amendment as well. So that your. Your desire to cover the. The protest or your right to protest does not trump your right to express yourself in your religious especially.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a peaceful assembly. First Amendment protects your right to peaceful assembly. So if you trespass and scare people with a loud, raucous aggression, that's not really peaceful. So the idea is you're out on the street, you're not blocking activity, and you're not scaring people.

[Davey Jackson]

Well, look, as a kid that grew up going to church multiple times a week, I would have loved if some protesters stormed in during one of my church services. Just to, you know, mix things up a little bit.

[Phil]

Dude.

[Ian Crossland]

Destroy the monotony.

[Davey Jackson]

I really. Yeah, just wake me up, you know.

[Ian Crossland]

So, I mean, your whole life, literally.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

These churches, they're not a public place, so I don't think most reasonable people would think they're fair game for, like, First Amendment protest protests. But as far as the Don Lemon stuff goes, I don't know if it rises to the, you know, the occasion of, like, collaboration or whatnot. I think what I saw was that he recorded them, knew about it ahead of time, which many journalists are tipped off ahead of time. When protesters do stuff like this, both on the right and the left. And then the bringing the coffee thing, I don't know if that, like, rises to the occasion of collaboration. I still think Don Lemon's a piece of shit, and I still think he engaged in some harassment, and I think his goal was still to encourage the people there. But I think it's, like, a dangerous standard to try to achieve. I'm still old enough to remember when me and other reporters were covering the January 6 riot and inside the Capitol, and Elisha Schaefer in particular. I Remember, I believe he, he was in Nancy Pelosi's office even, but he wasn't charged with anything. Not that, and he shouldn't have been. And some journalists get some protections here. I think the punishment, the process is the punishment in this case with the DOJ going after Don Lemon and that's the case for a few other cases that they have going on. Well, regarding Tish James, I think the punishment, the process is the punishment. And same with James Comey, I think the process is the punishment. This is something Trump himself went through. So when he's throwing it back in the faces of these people, I don't think he really gives a shit.

[Phil]

What would you say to him, to people that say things like, well, you know, the law that he's being charged under protects people that are going to abortion clinics as well as people that are expressing, you know, going to a religious service or whatever. And there have been a bunch of times where people have been arrested or the cops have said to people that are protesting abortion, move along, et cetera. If you get arrested for praying outside of an abortion clinic, I can't see how this wouldn't rise to the same level of offense if he's going into the church, right? So if you're outside of an abortion clinic praying silently, right, or, or talking to people, you say, oh, hey, do you really want to do this? Are you sure you want to get, have an abortion? If someone's going to do that and they're going to get arrested for that behavior, then I think that Don Lemon going into the church, I think that all the people that went into the church, I think that that rises to the same level of intimacy.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I think the protest leader that led the people into the church is being charged also. I don't think people are pro lifers. Kingman, maybe you could fact check me on this one. So far as the people outside of the abortion clinics, they don't get arrested. But I do think there was a group of people who went inside these abortion cl, refused to leave, those people were charged, the president eventually ended up pardoning them. That doesn't justify the stuff that goes on in the church. And the protesters who went into the church are being charged. But for example, do you think the pro life activist, media person who goes into the clinic with the protesters should also be arrested if they're just filming it, even if they do have an affinity for the pro life groups?

[Kangmin Lee]

Well, I don't think they should be arrested at all, cuz I think they're saving babies. So they're doing a great job. Sure. Not that I agree.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Well, if abortion is legal and you're obstructing these healthcare facilities from providing that legal.

[Kangmin Lee]

Right. There's like that line where, okay, it's is it moral, but is it lawful? And there's a discussion to be had there for sure.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Because you're a big pro life guy.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, I'm a huge anti abortion guy. I think it's unjust. I think it is a modern day genocide that many people look over just because the babies are small. But I do think that there are, there have been cases of grandmas who are literally just praying peacefully outside of abortion clinics. And they were arrested by the Biden administration. And so it wasn't just only like super aggressive anti abortion activists who go into the abortion clinics. Like, it's literally grandmas who are praying outside, of course, vocally. And they got arrested by the Biden administration.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, but what else were those grandmas doing? You know, those grandmas can be real problematic sometimes.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I don't want to butcher this story. I believe there was someone, a pastor.

[Phil]

Who went into Grok says that there have been people. Yes, people have been arrested while positioned outside or near abortion clinics in the United States. These arrests are not for peacefully standing or praying silently without any additional action. Arrests typically stem from specific violations. Physically blocking, trespassing on private property, which Don Lemon definitely did. Disorderly conduct, which that was. That is what Don Lemon has done. Resisting, resisting arrest during protests, interfering with business operations. So essentially it boils down to we.

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[Phil]

There have been people that have been arrested when it comes to abortion under the same law. And so if. If so because of that, I would say that what Don Lemon engaged in absolutely rises to the same. Same level.

[Kangmin Lee]

Even worse, I would say you can make the argument, and it's like, I don't know how you wouldn't make the claim that he was. He wasn't collaborating. I. I don't think you can make the claim he wasn't collaborating with them when he literally got them coffee and he was saying, we. We did this. Hey, good job, to them and congratulating them, and he went with them. And the fact that, I mean, I just. I'm sure you guys have seen the pictures of, like, the children crying and scared, and there's tons of stories that come out from the people who are actually there of, you know, these ICE protesters getting really violent, really in the faces of children, telling, like, saying obscenities in their face, not letting them get go anywhere.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And I wonder where is the line? Let's say I was the journalist who was tipped off about this event and decided to. I didn't bring coffee, and I didn't say we while being there, but I then otherwise recorded everything going on. Should I be indicted for anything if that were the case?

[Kangmin Lee]

If you were literally a bystander just recording. Right. As a journalist?

[Elad Eliyahu]

Well, I would be. I would be. No, I would be trespassing. Right. Because I wouldn't have been welcome there. And probably. Yeah. So at the very minimum, breaking the law of trespassing.

[Kangmin Lee]

Well, I do think, well, intent matters too, and also that's proven in a court of law. But if you're just there to document what was going on, then, yes, it's fine, because it's just journalism. But clearly, Don Lemon had an agenda, I feel like. And it's just clear by all available evidence that he was. Was proud to be there, and he was happy to be there, and he was happy to. To collaborate with these violent protesters and these agitators who went in and disrupted church service. And so I. I think he should be arrested.

[Phil]

I mean, I understand your point a lot, but I. I think that the. The real. The facts on the ground, the fact that the. The government has prosecuted people for the FACE act, which is. That's the. The particular law that was broken for things like inhibiting, trespassing, et cetera, that. That standard has already been set. And so when the FACE act was passed, the. The inclusion of religious services and stuff, that was like a gimme to get Republicans to sign On. Right. Like, really they were focusing on abortion clinics. That's why it was. Was created. They were worried about the. About conservatives and pro life people protesting or talking to people as they go in and being. And again, do you really want to do this, etc. And so they threw it in there for the. For to give a bone to conservatives. Because nobody protests churches, you know, unless it was. Unless it was, you know, I can't. Unless it was like Scientology. I think they get. They get protests sometimes, but otherwise, like, for the most part, religious services are. Were fairly benign. And most people didn't, you know, didn't think it would ever come to anything. And so I think that because of. Of the. The history with the Face Act, I think that's. That precedent has been set. And now I think it's the. It's incumbent on the Justice. Justice Department to actually follow through and prosecute these people. And I think Don Lemon is, you know, one of the people that. That made this a national story.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

If he received the footage, like, if these protesters had strapped on GoPros, they trespassed, they scared, they did whatever. And then they sent the footage to Don Lemon and he's like, I'm going to report on this. That's no crime there. But if you. Then it's like a bank robbery. If you, as the reporter, participate with the robbers to go commit the crime, and you're there with them inside the bank, recording them, you've stepped over a line. You're not just reporting now. You're part of the process. And that's my take on.

[Elad Eliyahu]

But if you're tipped off to potential criminal activity going on in the future. So these protesters will often tip off journalists to come cover their events. Do you think they're. What.

[Ian Crossland]

The reporter has a duty to report that to law enforcement?

[Elad Eliyahu]

Okay, I don't think they do. And I think that would not. It wouldn't make them a journalist if they did.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I mean, what depends on the law, I guess. If it's a law that you think should be broken, you have a moral obligation to violate that law.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I mean, well, you don't know if a law is being broken. Protesters tell you, hey, we're organizing at XYZ and we plan to do something here. That's. That's how they'll do it. And it's actually very common in the protest scene. That's why you'll always see photographers and you'll get a ton of footage of stuff because they tip off the journalists ahead of time. You don't know explicitly what's going to happen.

[Phil]

Don Lemon knew what was going to happen. That's part of the problem.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Did he know what the extent of what was going to happen?

[Phil]

He knew that they were going inside.

[Kangmin Lee]

And like, the fact that the thing he does immediately as he goes in isn't to document what's going on. Ask the protesters, why are there protests? He goes straight to the pastor. And so it's part of the scheme where you disrupt a church service and you go straight to the pastor while he's giving a sermon. It's, it's like clear what his intent was.

[Phil]

And if he, he go. The fact that he went straight to the pastor means that he was in, in communication with these, these protesters because they ostensibly went there because the protester was allegedly working with ice. Even if this guy wasn't the guy, if there was a different protest, different pastor that was working with ice, Don Lemon went to the pastor because he knew that they were going there because someone was working with ice.

[Kangmin Lee]

Don Levin literally went with these protesters to agitate this pastor or a pastor who works at this church to find out who is this pastor who loves ice, works with ice, etc. And so I think it is very clear that he went with clear intent.

[Phil]

Yeah, that's not even bringing up Don Lemon's personal politics, which are, of course, very, very progressive and very leftist. That this is all stuff that we're talking about, just, just the facts on the ground. Never mind being like mentioning the fact that it's likely that he didn't agree with the religious people and he agreed with the, with the protesters. Like, that's something that, that may come up particularly because again, they have his phone, they have a warrant, they're going to look into it. And so if he was communicating with them and he knew about, you know, new to the extent that the, the protest was going to be, then again, this only adds to Don Lemon's problems.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Despite whatever fine details that we're going through, I don't think the DOJ will end up charging him. And bigger picture here, I think this is probably the best case scenario for Don Lemon because he is a among his peers. Now Donald Trump is coming after me. I'm fighting back against the Donald Trump DOJ amongst all his gay friends in Fire Island. Now you know who's fighting to get back against the homophobe fascists in the White House? It's me. And they're coming after me, and I'm a gay icon.

[Phil]

Now, that same thing can be said about people that go to protest abortion clinics, do you? You don't think that they.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Sorry, sorry for that from the beginning.

[Phil]

But the same thing could be said for people that protest against abortion clinics. You think someone goes to an abortion clinic and they're, they're arrested. You don't think that they can be like, look, man, yeah, much less religious.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Because there's a couple of priests, Kingman, maybe you know their name specifically. Cause it's escaping me, but it was these famous pro life priests who would go around to these abortion clinics, go inside, end up getting arrested, and it was because they repeatedly did that. They eventually went to jail. Trump pardoned them. But even you, a pro life advocate, I suspect you don't even know the name of these guys. I think we don't rally around the pro life flag on the right, as many on the left will rally around the anti ICE messaging. And that's why I think he's becoming more of a hero. People on the right, people in our country don't really care about pro life issues, and therefore they're less sympathetic to those breaking the law to bring attention to that issue. As opposed to ICE and immigration. People think they're totally justified in obstructing both ICE officers and even churches, church services, so long as it justifies and makes them feel good about the cause that they're fighting for.

[Phil]

I think that because the left is more vocal about this kind of stuff, particularly now because Donald Trump's in office, Roe vs Wade was recently overturned. I think that it's a hot button issue. I think that because Donald Trump is in office now, the focus on immigration and stuff like that, that's a big deal. But I think that there are probably conservative people tend to be just that, a little more conservative. And I think that people that are pro life, whereas they won't go and be so boisterous about it, I think that they still will be like, oh, that was a good thing for him to do. And, and if you're talking about optics.

[Davey Jackson]

But, but Lemon's going to experience the Jimmy Kimmel effect on this. You're absolutely right. I mean, Jimmy Kimmel had no ratings. Then he gets canceled, you know, taken off air, comes back and blowing it out of the water. Now, same thing's gonna happen with Don Lemon. You're right. He's. He's a martyr for the cause at this point.

[Phil]

Is it consistent with Jimmy Kimmel, though? Because I know that when he came back, he had, he had a big pop because he came back. But I don't think that his his show, like, had a resurgence or anything.

[Davey Jackson]

He did have Don Lemon on, I think. Right. Didn't he interview Don Lemon or something like that?

[Phil]

Yeah, there you go.

[Davey Jackson]

There you go.

[Kangmin Lee]

I mean. Yeah. I mean, people love a martyr, right? People love the martyr story.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Well, I feel like it depends heavily on the political issue and whether or not people think it's justified on that spectrum. People decide whether or not the martyrdom is worth it and. Interesting.

[Kangmin Lee]

Right. But I think there is where as. Yes. I don't want to make Don Lemon this martyr for this progressive cause, and he's fighting against the fascists and the evil Donald Trump. I do think that it is also incumbent on the Trump administration and the Trump DOJ to set a precedent, to tell leftists and progressives, hey, we're not going to tolerate this. And the more that we acquiesce enforcing the law that is in place and punishing people who agitate and hurt people or firebomb buildings and things like that, the more that we acquiesce to say, okay, we're gonna stick to decorum. We don't want to. You know, if we do it, like, imagine if they'll do it against us. Like, I just don't think we're in a place in America anymore where we can kind of stick to those utopian ideals and this vague abstractions of principles when they're literally killing us and they're shooting us and they're celebrating it and they're bombing us, and it's like. And nothing happens because, oh, no, it's fascism to arrest these people. And so I think it is really incumbent on the Trump administration to say, no, we're going to have an end to this. And all your leftist antics, your violent agitations, and all these things we're not going to tolerate anymore. And we need more of that, like, heavy hand for Trump to rule with the iron fist. They'll call him a fascist no matter what. No matter what he does. He's going to be a Nazi. He's going to be evil Hitler. So if he's. If they're going to call you that, no matter what the progressives are going to call you that, no matter what. It is incumbent on Trump, I believe, and the DOJ to go and enact justice to protect those who are truly most vulnerable.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Does it matter if they fail to convict and are only able to indict these people?

[Kangmin Lee]

What do you mean? Like, does it matter?

[Elad Eliyahu]

Again, he might not end up being convicted, but if he's indicted, he has to go through and charge, he needs to go through the entire process if you're indicted. Same again with James Comey. Tish. James, if you're indicted, you still need to defend yourself, even if you aren't convicted. And that process is the punishment, is the punishment in many ways. So, you know, I mean, it's not the way the criminal justice system was set up. It wasn't meant to be that, you know, we're just indicting somebody. And therefore you are guilty. You know, you are innocent until proven guilty. But then you still need to hire a lawyer, go through the process, be stressed out about being investigated by the doj. All your shit's probably being stared at by, you know, intelligence agencies and whatnot. Right?

[Kangmin Lee]

But if the indictment's the point and there's no conviction, then what's the point?

[Elad Eliyahu]

It's like the process is the punishment.

[Kangmin Lee]

Right? But it's still like political theater at the end of the day. And, like, I'm just kind of sick of political theater.

[Phil]

I think that. I think to your point a lot, if they don't, if they don't, if they fail to get a conviction, I think that people are going to look at the Trump administration as weak. I think that that's already the. The kind of the right, the base of the right wing, they're already upset with the Trump administration. They're not doing deportations fast enough. Trump's not doing this, not doing that.

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[Phil]

I think that if they fail to get a conviction, it's going to be actually bad for the administration.

[Elad Eliyahu]

So I wanted to follow. I'm sorry. To interrupt. I wanted to follow up on the SAVE act and get these specific details here because I think it's really pertinent to what we're talking about. So if I could please have 30 seconds to read this off. So a Catholic priest who blocked access to a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic could face up to one year in prison after being found guilty Monday of violating the FACE Act. On the morning of July 7, 2022, Father Fidelis Makins, a priest of Church of Renewal, effectively shut down a Planned Parenthood in greater New York in the town of Hempstead. According to the doj, he placed locks and chains on the gated entrance and covered some of them with glue. And that prevented anybody from getting through the gate and then accessing their pre planned healthcare. Not even all of these were for abortions. I believe he was convicted and then eventually pardoned. I know you're sympathetic to the pro life cause despite that. Do you think he should have been charged based on the actions that he took?

[Kangmin Lee]

The reality is we live in a nation and if we live in a nation with laws, we have to enforce those laws. I don't believe in lawlessness. And if we want to reform the. If we don't, if we have unjust laws, then we need to repeal those laws. We can't have vigilantism and things like that.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Well, he'd be charged on this.

[Kangmin Lee]

Right, right, right.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I just also think it wasn't just these guys standing outside. They may have been arrested, but the people who were charged outside of these Planned Parenthoods were doing more than just standing around and trying to talk to people who were going in. They were gluing and locking these doors shut.

[Kangmin Lee]

Well, they were saving babies. But I'm not endorsing it. I'm not endorsing those methods.

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[Elad Eliyahu]

But if you are sympathetic to that cause, then hypothetically you would say those protests are justified. Again, people protest around the country all the time. And their actions, people, I feel like, view them as justified whether or not they're sympathetic.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, of course, of course. But the difference is like we're right and they're wrong. Totally. So and I guess that's where why politics is so difficult in this country because we don't operate from the same moral framework. Not even like, like a semblance of a similar moral framework where the left wants to kill babies no matter what. The right is this amalgamation of different, you know, actions of like pro choice, but not until birth and then pro life and they're like really anti abortion and Just like different people exist in the right wing, but the commonality among the right wings that they love this country and they love America, whereas the left wants like, burn it all down. And so I think that's why it's very difficult to have any sort of political conversation in this country with those who disagree with us from right versus left. But also I think it's very important then for us to understand why it's very, very dangerous for the left to get political power again. Because once they wield political power, they'll, they'll, regardless of whether or not Don Lemon is convicted, they'll use his indictment, they'll use this whole process to say we're going to go after Trump and we're going to go after Trump supporters and conservatives, things like that. And so it is very important. This is where I don't really agree with a lot of the people on the right who are, or, you know, the dissident right who are like, oh, let's just let it all burn, just let the Democrats win. Well, no, I, I don't want to see my fellow Christians and my fellow conservatives and my patriots locked up like they were in January 6th with like hundreds of grandmas in solitary confinement.

[Phil]

And to your point, like, the, the way that the Democrats are positioning themselves now, if they were to like, win and you know, the, like the decision, right, says though, let it, let them win. It'll get so bad and then people will wake up and then people will actually want to see something happen, a strong man come in. I don't think that that's a good idea because the Democrats are positioning themselves where if they win, they're going to make it impossible for the right to ever win again. Like, whether it be by expanding the court and, and getting rid of the filibuster and, and adding states or, or what have, you know, gerrymandering or whatever. So there's representation in con, there's no representation for conservatives in Congress. That's the, the, the goal of the left is to get a permanent left leaning majority in, in Washington D.C. and they've done it in, they've done it in California, they've done it in Massachusetts, they've done it all over New England. So it's possible to do that for the whole country. And then it'll just be like, well, okay, it was cool when we had a chance, but because people decided, oh, well, we're, we're black pilling and we're mad that Donald Trump isn't doing enough stuff for, for us, we're just going to let it all burn down. And if you let it all burn down, it really is the end for the right. There is no coming back from what the Democrats are planning.

[Davey Jackson]

You know, I think unpopular opinion on that is don't even go after Don Lemon. Just go after the people who perpetrated this. Right. Because you're just bringing more attention. It's the Barbra Streisand effect with. With Don Lemon at this point, you are creating a hero. Leave him alone. Just act like he doesn't exist, because realistically it doesn't. And just go after the. The protesters get more bang for the buck on this.

[Phil]

I mean, they are. They have arrested, though, the. The two organizers and the woke farmer guy that was doing his best to actually intimidate people.

[Davey Jackson]

So just let Don Lemon fade into the black, you know, no pun intended. Holy shit.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I think it's part of their own the lib mentality where they couldn't let it go. They had to go after Dantu because he had a big name. The president was familiar with him, and he was like, no, we have to take him down, too. And to their own detriment and to the Lemon's benefit.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, you want to exercise prosecutorial discretion from time to time, because like you were saying, you have a nation of law. If you don't enforce the laws, the nation kind of becomes a mockery of itself if it can't enforce laws. But if it can and it chooses not to, there are situations where, like, what you were just saying, Davey, is like, yeah, maybe. Maybe you don't, like, fan the flames. Maybe. But the thing is, now this is also precedent. So if Lemon does this again, he'll get the book thrown at him, like, 20 years in prison kind of thing. Because it's already been like, bro, you did it once, don't do it again. Don't support illegal trespassing and promote it to a million people.

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[Ian Crossland]

So I don't know if you could get away with, like, throwing the book at him the second time if you don't charge him the first time. So it's kind of like, look, we charge you once before. Obviously you can't. So I don't know. I was gonna say you can't charge him for the same crime twice, but if he does it again, it's.

[Phil]

If he does it again at a different place, it's a different. Yeah, you know, you can. Someone can be charged for the same crime if they did another instance of it. Like, if you murder someone and you get found not guilty.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Phil]

You murder another person, charges, they're not gonna be like, well, we can't charge him for murder and anymore because he beat the first.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, but a stern talking to, you know, and then like, hey, if you do it again, seriously, Don, this time, like, we're really going to.

[Phil]

All right, we're going to jump to this story from KMBC news. Woman seen trying to set fire to south Kansas City warehouse tied to previous ICE detention proposal. Let's see. A woman was seen trying to set fire to a South Kansas City warehouse on Thursday, the same site that had been proposing as a possible immigration detention center. Video from our crew shows the woman igniting window areas at the building and flames briefly flaring up. KMBC 9 reporter Andy Alock says he witnessed the woman throw what appeared to be a liquid onto the windows before the fire started. I think we got some video here.

[Elad Eliyahu]

KMBC 9's Andy Alcock and Andy, I know we'll get to this story in a moment, but we just. You just saw a woman try to set this building on fire.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, we did, Chris.

[Kangmin Lee]

She just left a few minutes ago. But if we take a look, you.

[Ian Crossland]

Can see there's some windows.

[Kangmin Lee]

Windows there along the south part of the building.

[Ian Crossland]

And there might be some scorch marks.

[Kangmin Lee]

You might be able to see that fire did not really catch. It did burn for a little while, but it is now out.

[Ian Crossland]

Platform Ventures is the owner of this warehouse. Their statement they sent today says in.

[Kangmin Lee]

Part, the sale fell through because closing wasn't done in a timely manner. It's a sharp contrast to what we.

[Ian Crossland]

Were told a month ago.

[Phil]

So, you know, I guess that.

[Kangmin Lee]

That.

[Phil]

That kind of points to the fact that if you want to burn down a building, you probably shouldn't try setting stone on fire.

[Kangmin Lee]

You should.

[Davey Jackson]

You shouldn't send a woman to do a man's job. My dad would have that thing up in flames instantly, dude. Yeah, I mean, she just didn't know.

[Phil]

What she was doing, especially seeing as she had an accelerant. You know, it's not like. It's not like she was sitting there with. With just matches.

[Davey Jackson]

That was just lighter fluid, wasn't it?

[Phil]

Yeah, it was just lighter fluid.

[Davey Jackson]

She's lucky she didn't set herself on fire.

[Ian Crossland]

Is this the story as she squirted lighter fluid on. On stone and then lit the stone and glass?

[Phil]

Yeah, stone and glass.

[Ian Crossland]

I guess you can melt glass at high enough temperatures, but not with butane fire, I think.

[Phil]

No.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You gotta wonder what tick tocks set her off.

[Phil]

I do Wonder.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You have to know it's a tick tock. You know, it was a tick tock.

[Ian Crossland]

You've got to go with attempted arson. Even if there was a 0% chance it could have caught.

[Phil]

No, I think that's still actually arson. Technically, it's still arson. She actually.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, it was fire.

[Phil]

Just because she was bad at it.

[Davey Jackson]

Doesn'T just because it went out come arson.

[Ian Crossland]

If you hold like a Bic lighter.

[Phil]

Up to the stone wall and you're.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, it's not lighting. It's not lighting. And they're like arson.

[Phil]

Honest, I don't know.

[Elad Eliyahu]

But one of the most screwed up parts about this is that she was actually successful in preventing the sale of the building to the federal government. As I understand the property owner platform. Can you scroll down a little bit? It was.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Paragraphs under the video. The property's owner, platform, venture, said Thursday it is no longer moving forward with any sale of the site to the US Government. So, I mean.

[Phil]

Oh, I think they said in the. In the piece that it had already had already.

[Davey Jackson]

The deal already fell through.

[Phil]

Yeah, the deal had already fallen before. Yeah, yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, more just another misfire. Another misfire. They are going after people.

[Phil]

You're an ICE agent.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And they're just not also the focus of protests. Below the video. Just know the video above that one. The warehouse has been the focus of protests and public concern after reports surface that it could be. So maybe during the process, they helped incur. It sounds like during the process of when they were trying to sell it to the government, protests and attacks helped encourage them to not do the sale. So in essence, they actually achieved what their main goal was, which is nerve wracking.

[Phil]

We got some video of her actually trying to do the. Oh, wow.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, look at that Muffin top.

[Phil]

Hot.

[Ian Crossland]

What is this video? She's not even on camera.

[Phil]

Well, I don't know what it's. It's just the. And the frame. It's the tick tock. Okay, here we go. She is. Oh, she's lit. Oh, she brought multiple bottles of accelerators.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, multiple windows.

[Davey Jackson]

Setting fire to a building where wearing sandals.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

This should get put away for sure.

[Phil]

That's a crazy genius.

[Ian Crossland]

Who is she?

[Kangmin Lee]

What's the lighter fluid on stone?

[Ian Crossland]

Fire is so dangerous.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yes.

[Phil]

She really thinks she's walking around like, she's. Like, they're not gonna find her. You know, I'm. I'm just gonna stand out here and try and burn this place down and. And nothing will happen to me because, you know, white women are Feeling way.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Too emboldened to attack, obstruct, and now commit arson against ICE and other federal officers. It's outrageous. Renee. Good. The way that our white people are behaving in our country right now, it's completely outrageous.

[Phil]

White women like and wait and elect Alex Preddy.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I mean, white men too. Just a woman talking about white men.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Sorry. What are you gonna say?

[Elad Eliyahu]

I could see you protesting against icy, and you look the part.

[Kangmin Lee]

You have the physiogy.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, you look so good with a sign.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Dude, I could see your evil brother. I could see your evil brother counter protesting. You just point all the ice. You guys are being opposite sides or.

[Davey Jackson]

You gonna say we start an intentional fight just for clicks? Yeah, for sure.

[Kangmin Lee]

What is going on? What is going on with women these days? It's just. It is absolutely insane. Like, no, but, like, seriously, like, they think they're, like, Black Widow. They think they're Natasha from Black Widow. We're gonna beat the bad guys. And then they just commit the stupidest acts of arson and terrorism, and they literally get themselves killed. And it is so insane. And I said this, and this is a tweet that got me fired from my previous job that women untethered from healthy masculine authority, they become hags and psychopaths. Now, I got fired for that because I said I've seen worse tweets.

[Elad Eliyahu]

No, because I sworn you tweet about the Jews, too. Keep going.

[Kangmin Lee]

I love the Jews. I love all people. I'm a Christian. But no, it's because in that tweet, I said that the majority of people who were celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk were women. And these were a woman who are, you know, untethered from masculine authority. They don't. They have daddy issues. They don't have good families, things like that. Right? And it's like. It's like. It's. It's true. It's true. So then women untethered from healthy masculine authority. They can't. They can't channel their healthy, you know, inner femininity. And then they lash out and they become hags and psychopaths. Like, truly. And then this is what Renee Goode is like. She left her previous husband and then got married to another woman and started playing house and all that stuff. And then she became this revolutionary and started lARPing as this, oh, I'm going to beat the patriarchy and beat Donald Trump. Oh, there. The fascists and the Nazis. We're going to beat and punch a Nazi. And then she got herself killed running over an ICE agent. And so all I have to say is like, woman, I love you, but you just gotta stop.

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[Elad Eliyahu]

Just gotta stop Kingman to follow up on that point. I know in our country right now the political divide among men and women is increasing, but it's not nearly as bad as the divide between men and women in Korea. What do you think we can do politically, socially, to try to bridge these divides? I mean, in Korea, if the men and women. No. Don't get along sometime soon, there won't be any Korea left for us. I don't know. Do you recognize those divides and how do you think we can overcome them?

[Kangmin Lee]

I think if you actually look at the data, the women in America are much more left wing than the woman in Korea. It's just that the men in Korea are just so much more right wing.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Fascinating.

[Kangmin Lee]

But. But it's like most women in Korea don't, they don't hate men. If you go to Korea, you're going to be, you're just going to see couples everywhere, everywhere you go. Yeah, it's going to be a guy and a girl holding hands, being really lovey dovey. You cannot escape it. Even in the winter time, maybe winter time, the Christmas time, it's romantic, it's nice. But when I was there this past month, there just couples everywhere. Couples everywhere, but no children. And that's the problem. Like they're not getting married because they essentially have the benefits of traditional marriage. Right. They spend time together, they're in love, they have sex, all this stuff.

[Guest or Contributor]

Stuff.

[Kangmin Lee]

But they don't commit to each other because when they commit to each other, there's still this understanding in Korean culture that when you get married that the woman is the one primarily taking care of the children. But you know, the woman don't want to give up their careers. And then so because of that, they delay marriage and then they delay childbearing and so they're just not having children. And if you look at the stats, too, that only 2% of childbirths in South Korea are outside of wedlock, whereas in america it's like 40 to 50%. So. So this idea of child bearing is still traditional in Korea, where it's like, okay, if we're going to have children, we need to do it within marriage, but they don't want to have children because it's going to be an impediment to their career. So that's why they delay marriage, they delay having children. So if you look at the gender divide in Korea, it's not like women are out there like, I hate women. And then women. Women are not like, I hate men, and then the men aren't like, I hate women. It's not like that. It's much more like materialistic in nature culture. It's really, I would say, like, exacerbated by the extreme competitiveness of corporate culture and things like that in Korea.

[Phil]

Whereas you think it's an economic. Is it economics?

[Kangmin Lee]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Where. I mean, it is partly economic because the living wages and the wages in general in Korea haven't really caught up to the cost of living. So all things considered, it is still pretty cheap to live in Korea, but the wages are really low, and so there's that component, too.

[Davey Jackson]

So they're all gold diggers.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, basically. Koreans love money.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I'm trying to understand. I don't know. Do you think maybe men should contribute more to the upbringing of the children if that's preventing some women from.

[Kangmin Lee]

Well, I think there's a lot. There's a lot of different parts, and just a huge multifaceted.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You got to figure this out.

[Kangmin Lee]

I know, I know. But I do think one part of it is the fact that Koreans are so mobile within Korea, and then so they can't form communities. Korea has one of the highest percentages of people of their population living in apartments. And if you know anything about apartments, you don't really talk to your neighbors. Typically, people move in and out all the time, and you're isolated. So then if you're isolated from the rest of the world and you're a mother, you're trying to raise your child, but you're like, isolated. You don't have help, you don't have your parents, you don't have your relatives, you don't have other people in your life, your friends who can help you, it's very isolating. And so who would want that, that in a modern society to have children and then to raise them up in your own home? And this is actually something we need to talk about in America, too, where the idea of the nuclear family. Of course I believe in the nuclear family, but we need to understand that it does take a village to raise a kid where asking a woman to just be alone with children all day by herself with the children, with no help from her parents, from her siblings, from people in her community, it's. It's. It kind of sucks. Like, she's just by herself with her children. Not. I'm not. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Yeah, it's just unsustainable. Like, no one lived like that in all of human history. No woman has lived like that. And so if we want to go back to a traditional lifestyle for families and for marriages, then we also have to restructure society and kind of take a step back, press the brakes, and say, wait, wait, wait, wait. The way that. That modern society is structured, it doesn't allow for traditional ways of living. And I think that that's really exacerbated in Korea, because Korea went from being one of the poorest countries in the war in the world after the Korean War, to rapid industrialization, to becoming now one of the richest. And so there's a lot of problems.

[Elad Eliyahu]

There for sure to send you back to deal with this birthright crisis. Huh?

[Kangmin Lee]

Hey, man, I love Korea. Of course. I love America as well.

[Davey Jackson]

You just explain all of this again. But, like, in squid game terms.

[Kangmin Lee]

But in all our Korean, basically, Koreans need to get married, have more children, and build houses.

[Phil]

If you. If everyone's living in apartments.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah. They just have to go back to more traditional styles of infrastructure and community building and housing and so things like that too.

[Davey Jackson]

But I also think the culture is kind of shifting, even in the US a little. Maybe not now, but, like, I was in LA last year quite a bit, and the number of women that I encountered that were like, I just want, like, a real man. Yeah, Like a masculine man. Man. Well, stop asking him to paint his nails. Stop telling him to get in touch with his emotions.

[Kangmin Lee]

It's so ridiculous. They're like, oh, a real man is secure with his masculinity, so he'll let me paint all over his face and do his nails. I'm like, no, dude.

[Phil]

I mean, men need to stop listening to women about what women want.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yes.

[Phil]

Like, if a woman tells a man, this is what I want, she's not telling you the truth. She could. She's telling you what she thinks she wants, wants. And what she actually wants is not what she's going to tell you.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yes.

[Davey Jackson]

And everything to hear because I've heard that I would like to peg you so much and I. They don't know what they want, dude.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I've never been asked to be pegged.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, that's a sticking point.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Maybe it's because I don't give off any. I don't know. Well, there's potentially grow your hair out. There's what the animal?

[Ian Crossland]

No, but I was asked to do porn and it might have been gay porn. There's what the animal wants. Like the, the animal female, the animal male. It's like animalistic what I want. And then there's the brain which is like I want a stable, secure thing. If you are nice to me during the day. That's what I want. It's like you want an animal that's going to protect you.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And like if I have to kill to do it, that's what you want, cuz that's what you need. That's, that's there too, you know, so it's like this.

[Davey Jackson]

They're all, it's all biological, dude. And if you don't give them that. They try to light concrete buildings on fire.

[Kangmin Lee]

It really is the whole problem. It really is.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And women domesticate these women. They try to burn down ice buildings and peg use.

[Phil]

Right.

[Elad Eliyahu]

It's pertinent. How are these problems?

[Davey Jackson]

Big problem.

[Elad Eliyahu]

If you don't domesticate them, they become like gay men. And it's a big issue in our society.

[Phil]

You have to be able to tell women no. Like, like no matter how good you.

[Davey Jackson]

Think it might feel.

[Phil]

You know what I mean?

[Davey Jackson]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

You, you.

[Phil]

No matter how good you might think it would feel. But seriously, you can't sit there and just constantly say yes and be a yes man for your, you know, for, for the woman in your life. You have to be like, no, we're not doing that. And if, if there's an argument, you have to stand on, on what you've said and be like, no, I said no. And if we're gonna fight about it and you're gonna be angry with me, you'll get over it. You know, I mean, start warming up.

[Davey Jackson]

The back of your hand, dude.

[Kangmin Lee]

I'm with you, brother, for you disavow this about the point.

[Davey Jackson]

The point is.

[Phil]

The point is women.

[Kangmin Lee]

No, no.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I hear in Korea.

[Phil]

The point is women.

[Kangmin Lee]

We love women here.

[Phil]

Women don't like a spineless man, you know.

[Davey Jackson]

Very true.

[Phil]

If you, if you can't stand up to them, they're not going to respect You.

[Davey Jackson]

Some of them do like spineless men, and it's the ones with color bangs.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah. And they're typically very, very piercing, too.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You know, only so long as they're on the SSRIs, because they hop off of them.

[Ian Crossland]

I keep thinking about this, the fall of the Soviet Union as being kind of a turning point for the limpness of the American male and probably female. Like, we live in Fantasy Candyland since 89, since the fall of the Berlin Wall, every American was like, we own the world now. We don't have to fight to protect. We don't. We have machines that'll do that for us. And, like, dudes kind of just slithered into their video games and. And their entertainment.

[Elad Eliyahu]

We need another war to put balls back on the chest of American men.

[Guest or Contributor]

To actually stand up and take and. And do things. What I'm hearing here is like, oh, you need to stand up to women. You're not going to learn that from a woman.

[Phil]

No.

[Guest or Contributor]

Not going to learn that from your mom or. Or your female caretaker. You're only going to learn from man who says, like, yo, women are going to push you to do these things. You have to be strong as men. Always.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Always.

[Guest or Contributor]

For my, like, for years, I've heard as a millennial or whatever, like, oh, you. You have to be in touch with your feelings. You know, let me let your paint your nails if that's being confident, being, like, at one with your sexuality. But all that ever did was just like, you know, black pill a bunch of these kids into thinking, okay, well, now I'll just be trans. I guess that's the easy way out.

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[Phil]

Most guys have heard the phrase test.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yeah, exactly.

[Phil]

It's like they're going to push your buttons. They're going to push to see how you react.

[Ian Crossland]

And you.

[Phil]

The best thing you can do. You don't want to get. Get, like, angry and. And feed into that. You have to be like, all right, no, you know, you have to. You have to be firm. You don't want to yell and scream because that's getting emotional. You going to be like, okay, look, no, we're not doing that. We're, you know, whatever the issue is, don't feed into it, but you have to be able to stand your ground. And I'm not that. I'm like some kind of, like, you know, what's the. The. The dudes that are like, red pill, man. Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I'm not a former Marine.

[Phil]

I'm not like a. A manosphere guy at all. But you do have to, like, be Able to retain your frame. You have be like, okay, this is the way. This is the way that. That I see the world. And I'm trying to do something that's good for us, the family, or both of us. And I understand that you want this, but right now, we can't do it and just be able to not remain calm, not feed into it. And, you know, that's what, you know, positive, masculine energy is just like, no, we're not going to do that. You don't have to yell and scream.

[Davey Jackson]

It's being the voice of reason.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Phil]

You know?

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, dude, that's what we're supposed to. I'm not the most alpha guy. You know, I get they asked to peg me all the time. I'm clearly not the most alpha guy. But, like, I, I, you know, you said, girlfriend, we have a. Allegedly, we have a great relationship. You know, lemon maxing is the new thing. Hashtag that. Let's get it trending. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Guest or Contributor]

Dude, a little lemon party here.

[Davey Jackson]

But, yeah, you know, you.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You just.

[Davey Jackson]

You just gotta. You gotta be able to be a man. You know, start with, like, going to the gym.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yeah, dude.

[Davey Jackson]

Take creatine every morning. You know, E. From your dad, dude. Yeah, dude, Smack some frame walk.

[Phil]

Yeah. Get that hammer. Smash your face.

[Guest or Contributor]

You know, I think there's something from your dad, dude. Just tap on your face like this for hours.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, I. Whether you kind of. What you were saying, Phil, about, like, how the woman will aggravate the guy to get to them to do a thing, and the guy has to stay calm. I think that it's like training for kids now you got a kid know you. You can talk more on. This is like the woman will press the guy, and she's like, simulating what the kid is gonna do to the guy. Cause the kid's a wild animal at first. Like, it's figuring out it wants, it takes. And so you as a man have to stay calm, push back, and say, no, this is the path and you're following me regardless. And then deal with the outcome and not flip out. And then when. And it's same for when the guy will push a woman. There's a way the man will test his woman, too. And it's like, like, it's the way that you would push against a child. Anyway, I'll think of that second part later.

[Davey Jackson]

Stop saying push against. I push where the conversation.

[Phil]

Yeah, it's. It's getting. It's getting.

[Ian Crossland]

I think a lot of marital chaos is actually training for how are you going to handle this wild animal raising? Can you handle it?

[Phil]

Yeah, I mean, but it's not just that. It's like if, if she's going to rely on you to take care of her and take care of the family, she has to be able to rely on you. Like if you're, if you're going to be trusted, you have to be trustworthy, worthy and, and women are going to do different things to find out if you, if she can trust you.

[Davey Jackson]

Well, that's.

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[Davey Jackson]

Where a lot of the manosphere breaks down because like they don't realize that it's earned. You don't just get to do that, you know, like I'm not the best protector and provider, but I can do it kind of, of you know, and that's like you just got to get in where you fit in.

[Kangmin Lee]

Dude.

[Guest or Contributor]

I heard, I've heard a lot of women talking about how like women's, women's like so like needs for a partner. Start with like security first and then attraction beyond that because that's what they have with the test and everything like that because they want to make sure like, this person is someone that can be relied upon, because back traditionally, it would be like the father's family would give the woman to, like, another family. In a sense, like, that's how it was. And that's just like the modern representation of that. It's like, can this person stand up for me and protect me?

[Phil]

Look, this sounds. This sounds kind of like we don't get a dowager.

[Kangmin Lee]

That's.

[Guest or Contributor]

I know.

[Davey Jackson]

They got rid of Diary.

[Phil]

This sounds kind of like a hippie thing that Ian would said.

[Kangmin Lee]

But if.

[Phil]

It's like, if you want to be trusted, you have to be trustworthy. If you want to be loved, you have to be lovable. That's something that you kind of want women to kind of internalize more. Like, if. If a woman wants to be loved, she has to be lovable. And that means don't go out and act like a feminist that says, I hate men, blah, blah, blah, and then complain because you can't meet the nice guy or find the guy. You know, it's like, you have to. You have to put out what attracts what you're looking for. So if you're a woman, you want to be loved, be lovable.

[Davey Jackson]

God forbid a woman submit a little. You know what I mean?

[Ian Crossland]

I've been having this, like, this mind example that I do in my. Where I think about it and like, okay, it's the year 1620 AD and the peasant woman has her husband who's got, like, warts on his face. Maybe he's got some weird disease, but they love each other so much. And he's sickly, and he's farming. And then the prince comes, and he's this evil, wicked man, but he wants her. He wants her to be his wife. And she's like, I can stay with my sick husband who will probably die and not give me a child, or I can go be with this rich asshole. And, like, how could you say no to the rich asshole?

[Elad Eliyahu]

Like, you would.

[Ian Crossland]

Obviously, the guy's going to give you money and healthy food for your healthy children. A prolonged life.

[Phil]

That's called hypergamy.

[Ian Crossland]

It is. And so that's like, in reality, you.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Have to kind of.

[Ian Crossland]

Even if you're the poor farmer, you've got to somehow elicit the strength of the prince. And people think, oh, if I get rich, that'll be. But it's not just rich, you know.

[Davey Jackson]

It'S power, dude, you're just saying that because you have prince hair, dude. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, you. You knew I was talking about actually talking about prince the whole time.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, look. Look at that.

[Ian Crossland]

Learn a guitar.

[Davey Jackson]

That's Disney Prince hair if I've ever seen wear purple.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, I thought you meant Prince.

[Davey Jackson]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Ian Crossland]

The artist formerly known as.

[Phil]

He's the.

[Ian Crossland]

So I don't know.

[Kangmin Lee]

I'm always about.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, how do you emulate? I mean, I just usually just be myself and. And make people laugh. But, like, how do you emulate strength without money, you know, you don't need to rely on money. Money's not going to buy you love. It'll give you strength.

[Elad Eliyahu]

It's gonna buy her a house.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes, it'll buy you a house, which is her.

[Elad Eliyahu]

A house.

[Ian Crossland]

Locked walls, where the kid's gonna survive.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And she wants a house know. Yeah, woman.

[Phil]

Yeah, you can.

[Guest or Contributor]

She wants security.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

But then if you're inside the house abusing her, like, all that security is out the window.

[Phil]

So if you're abusing, you got to be like the.

[Ian Crossland]

The. The violent protector and the. The docile lover. And. And it's like, you got to be able to switch that on and off.

[Davey Jackson]

Dole.

[Phil]

Do.

[Davey Jackson]

The word.

[Guest or Contributor]

I don't know about do.

[Ian Crossland]

When you're in the bed with her, she does not want you beating things.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I mean.

[Kangmin Lee]

I mean. I mean, you'd be surprised.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe she wants on the thing can.

[Kangmin Lee]

Ian, have you seen what women are reading these days? Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I mean, women ask me to do things that I. I refuse to do. Like, it's a liability. They want to be manhandled. It's disgusting. It's actually makes me feel uncomfortable.

[Guest or Contributor]

It's misogynistic. Let's go all the way. It's misogynistic with these women.

[Elad Eliyahu]

It's like, you want me to put my. You want me to put my hands on you? Like, are you trying to get me in a. Are you trying to catch me up in something? Are you trying to go to the police after this?

[Davey Jackson]

Dude, I have the.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Like, it's not uncommon to be asked to be slapped. It's not uncommon to be. To be. Act. Asked to be choked. Like, those are, like, vanilla.

[Davey Jackson]

Now, among women, that's entry level, dude.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah, no, it is. It is not uncommon at all.

[Kangmin Lee]

I'm not speaking from personal experience. Maybe I am. But the woman, they always ask to be choked and slapped and things like that. I have a past, too, you know, I've repented. I love the Lord. But the thing is, like, these are the things that women ask for, and you look at all the literature that they're reading these days, like, it's, like, weird. Bestiality stuff with minotaurs. And I'm like, you know, someone was.

[Phil]

Taught someone that when it kind of busted under the scene and was a big topic on social media. People, I forget who it was that was talking about it. But the reason that it's like all these like animals now is because like, men feminists kind of have like looked at men and said men are terrible, but they still want the, the same kind of animistic they choose the bear dude. Exactly. Yeah. And so so instead of having a man be the, the focal point of their, their lust or whatever, they've made it into these, these imaginary creatures.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Men are domesticated, animals are still wild, and who knows what they could do?

[Phil]

Probably.

[Kangmin Lee]

That's literally the female mind today, the modern female mind.

[Ian Crossland]

Bird control.

[Elad Eliyahu]

That's be the undomesticated man.

[Ian Crossland]

I, I think we're going to jump to the next story, but that's.

[Davey Jackson]

You definitely need a T shirt that says Docile Lover, though.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, that would be great. And then turn around, be like feral animals them.

[Davey Jackson]

Lover and peg me on the back.

[Phil]

All right, we're going to jump to this story from the Post Millennial. I'm not sure how we got onto this stuff, but it actually ties into the story that we were talking about earlier. Again from the Post Millennial Breaking Oregon man indicted on Terrorism Charges over Plot to Behead ICE agents in Portland. That's a happy headline. A grand jury has indicted an Oregon man on new terrorism charges stemming from an intricate plot to kill ICE agents in Portuguese Portland. Raiden Tanner Coleman. Good lord, that that guy doesn't have a father. 18 of St. Helens faces new charges of first degree attempted domestic terrorism and second degree domestic terrorism. The charges handed down by a Columbia county grand jury on Thursday are in addition to the 13 original charges that included six counts of unlawful manufacturing of a destructive device, six counts of unlawful possession of a destructive device, and attempted second degree assault assault. Prosecutors said that that Coleman did unlawfully and with intent attempt to cause widespread serious physical injury or death and attempt to destroy or substantially damage critical infrastructure. Coleman, who was arrested on February 4, will be drained on Friday afternoon, and Deputy District Attorney Joshua Pond filed an ODA seeking a harsher sentence per core records. According to a probate cause affidavit, Coleman allegedly devised an intricate plan to follow ICE agents home as they left the facility on Macadam Avenue and kill them, including heading and taking their severed heads as trophies. His plan detailed utilizing night vision goggles to stalk their whereabouts and wearing camouflage clothing to blend in where Is this guy got the money for night vision goggles?

[Davey Jackson]

This guy sounds awesome, dude.

[Phil]

I mean it's like a. He's committed. Committed to the bit, right?

[Elad Eliyahu]

Is he a Muslim revert with the beheading stuff? I wonder where he drew inspiration.

[Phil]

He doesn't look like it.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I know. No, the revert.

[Guest or Contributor]

Convert. You revert.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Everyone.

[Guest or Contributor]

Everyone's natural based.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Everyone's born Muslim. Like everyone's.

[Phil]

Yes, yes.

[Elad Eliyahu]

The womb is a. Is a woman just.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yeah, he know ball. Nice. Yeah.

[Phil]

Investigate. Investigators found Coleman in possession of surveillance equipment, tactical axes, military knife shovels and homemade explosive devices, including Molotov cocktails which were located in his vehicle. During his arrest, Coleman also had been making payments toward the purchase of an AR15. According to court documents, he went with.

[Davey Jackson]

The night vision AR on layaway.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Dude, I mean, 18, you can get.

[Phil]

An AR for pretty cheap. The night is all the night vision first. Those things are.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah, but he's 18.

[Kangmin Lee]

18.

[Elad Eliyahu]

The night vision was cheap.

[Phil]

Night vision.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Where's he getting this money? Where's this 18?

[Davey Jackson]

This literally sounds like my closet. This is great stuff.

[Phil]

I don't wanna. I'm not gonna talk about.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, well, all right.

[Phil]

I don't want to know the things that I own. Similar to the.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Oh yeah, my closet. I have a bunch of firearms and.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, but Michael, I still haven't come out of it. That's how.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Pepper spray.

[Phil]

Listen, the reason that I know night vision, I. There's a reason that I know night vision is very expensive. Yeah, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

Especially that top level stuff, man.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah. So how did this 18 looks so cool too. I want to wear night vision goggles.

[Kangmin Lee]

Question.

[Davey Jackson]

I want to wear your goggles.

[Phil]

So to, to. To a lot's point earlier, you know, these. These leftists really are getting far more brazen in their. In their attacks. I mean there's obviously all the attacks in Texas on the ICE facilities. There was a couple. I think there was three immigrants that were illegal immigrants that were killed when the. The shooter was shooting into the ICE facility and he was trying to kill ICE agents, but he ended up, you know, killing illegal immigrants. Do you think that this kind of stuff or do you guys think this kind of stuff is going to be more prevalent in the coming years? Or is that. Do you think that this is going to reach an apex soon and kind of peter out?

[Elad Eliyahu]

I don't know if we have a. I don't know if I specifically have a blind spot to this. Only noticing this happening for leftist causes and I'm maybe missing addressing all the right wing causes. This violence is done for. But no, I see this as like normalized on the left and encouraged by the left shout out to going back to even Charlie Kirk not too long ago being murdered. Obviously there were two Israeli consulate staffers who were murdered in Washington D.C. not too long ago. And these, the firebombings of potential ICE facilities or attacks on ICE agents or doxing of ICE agents, it just doesn't seem uncommon. It seems to be normalized and almost appreciated by people on the far left. They believe the ends justify the means and they think these people are genuinely evil and they are superheroes fighting against them. They think they're like, I don't know, Batman or Superman punching like Adolf Hitler in the face comic style. And when you have people who are so self absorbed and so self important, I think you're only going to see more of this stuff. So this really begs the question, which TikTok did this kid see before being encouraged to go try to, you know, kill ICE officers?

[Kangmin Lee]

It might have been actually a red Reddit post. I don't know. Have you, have you guys seen sewer? Have you seen this? These Reddit posts and these memes from trans people, they're like trans me and trans meme humor is just literally shooting people. Like that's all shooting and stabbing people. And we don't condone that here with we disavow all that kind of stuff. Right?

[Elad Eliyahu]

But for people who and moan about dehumanization all this time, they sure love to dehumanize people who don't think that they are the opposite gen 100.

[Kangmin Lee]

And like you see and it's not not fr. It's not fringe and niche anymore. It's like it is mainstream on the left where these memes, these trans memes where they depict themselves shooting or killing people. Like they get hundreds of thousands of likes.

[Elad Eliyahu]

It's hundreds of thousands of likes. It's mainstream to justify the murder of Charlie Kirk on the left, not liberals. I want to make a distinction between the left and liberals. But leftists justified the murder of Charlie Kirk without question. They feel unbothered by it.

[Kangmin Lee]

Why?

[Elad Eliyahu]

Because he was a fascist who they believe was causing karma get. They believe his speech was causing harm against them.

[Kangmin Lee]

So scary because there's millions of people who feel this way like millions of people who feel this way that if you are a right wing person, anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton, you deserve to die because you are dehumanizing me and you are taking away my rights. And it's absolutely bonkers.

[Phil]

You know, we Were making jokes about the TikTok of the lieutenant governor from Minnesota today because she was talking about her, her, her, her native name. I forget. Yeah, I can't, I, I can't pronounce it off the top of my head. But the point that I'm making is she's been seen wearing a shirt that says protect trans kids and, and you know, stacked on top and there's a knife in between protect and trans. And it's like this kind of stuff is not just discussed on Reddit. This kind of stuff is actually valorized by politicians. Maybe they're not in D.C. right? Maybe the, the people in D.C. are smart enough to not actually call for viol. Plenty of Democrat politicians that do.

[Kangmin Lee]

There's someone close to DC Jay Jones who had messages where he wished death upon Republicans and their children.

[Phil]

There was the, there's a guy in Texas running that said that he's literally running on a platform to kill Donald Trump. That's the, that was the way that he phrased it. And he was talking about, well we're going to find him guilty, we're going to arrest him, we're going to find him guilty and we're going to get capital punishment. Didn't bother to mention what crime, crime he was going to, you know, be charged with. Didn't bother to mention what crime he, he had committed that was, was worthy of capital punishment. But he was making it very clear that capital punishment was going, that that was his goal, that he was get him elected and he was going to make sure that Donald Trump was brought up on charges that would lead to a death penalty. And that that kind of stuff is insane.

[Kangmin Lee]

Insane. It's normal. I think that's what makes Democrats like, I, I, I don't like Republicans either. But I think this is what makes Democrats really pernicious is that they know what they're saying is absolute bullcrap. But they live off the delusions of useful idiots who eat it up. Where these useful idiots on college campuses, on Reddit, they genuinely believe that Donald Trump is worse than Adolf Hitler. And so they believe that yes, we need to go out and kill all the supporters of, of so called worse than Hitler. And then they, this is why left wing violence has become so normalized in our society where it seems like there is a left wing attack in the west every other week. Like we just had a trans shooter in Canada target multiple children, murder multiple children and somehow the left is completely silent about that. But if you look at his posts, Matt Walsh was calling out that trans Person. That shooter's post years ago about, hey, these people are getting really radicalized on the Internet and then nothing's being done because they are a protected class and we can't dehumanize them and they are somehow protected under civil rights legislation.

[Phil]

To your point about the protected class stuff, like the Canadian media wouldn't even come out and say that it was a trans woman. They were, say. They were saying it was a gun person.

[Davey Jackson]

Gun person? Yeah.

[Phil]

The dance that they damn only helps trans people that are the, the, the shooter. Like if you, if you refuse to use the actual biological sex of, of a person because you're going to offend the trans community. When it was a trans. Trans woman, it was a guy that, you know, shot these 10 people or something like that, killed his parents, then went to a school and decided to shoot a bunch of kids. If, if the government and the, the still won't come out and say, look, okay, this was a mentally ill person. This is a person that had a disorder and was on drugs and, and they totally ignore that stuff.

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[Phil]

And they say, oh, you know, it was, it was, it was a, you know, it was a person, a trans person. A woman in a dress is another thing that I heard someone say a woman in a dress about a guy in a dress that was shooting hurting people. The, the fact that the media still plays into it only helps these people, only, only protects these people that are carrying out these heinous crimes.

[Kangmin Lee]

Did you guys see that? Canadian police chief, when discussing the trans shooter, they said, we will respect the preferred pronouns of this individual while she was alive. And I was like, why? Someone who goes around killing children deserves no respect.

[Davey Jackson]

There was, there was a video of someone saying, the first victim in this situation is the trans children. How much they were bullied. Dude, people are so heavily, extremely propagandized now. I mean, Eli, that's right. They believe they are fighting evil. Yeah, that's that's genuinely like the mentality.

[Elad Eliyahu]

That they have unironically, like. Yeah, it's hard to emphasize how much they think that right wingers are legitimately evil and that they are saving the planet.

[Ian Crossland]

I think that that's like a. I take this as a global conspiracy to actually do this to the United States to. To destroy itself from within. So to answer your question, Phil, is this gonna keep happening? I think the plan, it looks like, is radicalize the people of the United States by destroying their economy and flooding their country with fentanyl. Weird petrochemicals, drugs, feed them crap. They'll eat it in the US they'll ban it in Europe, but they'll eat it in the US make them androgynous and then make it normalize it. And then when they fight, then the people are gonna be like the response to like radical, call me. My pronoun is I would rather see you worst of the worst. Are you kidding me? You're gonna push me to say something that I know isn't true. Like you can't compel my speech and behavior. So then what that'll happen is it will radicalize both sides more and then I think you will see more of this up until people start begging for a technocracy to come in and use spy tech, global spy tech, to make sure no one can do this kind of thing. Because we're all being tracked at every moment. Like what Larry Ellison wants to. To do, make ours all tracked at every moment so that we can't commit crimes. And people will be begging, even people on the right, begging for this technology to protect them from these crazy trans shooters. And it's like it's an op. It's an op. We're supposed to be free and have gun rights and protect our individuals. You know, we have this video from.

[Phil]

Sky News about this particular shooter.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Police say the attacker was dead when they found her. She had a self inflicted wound and she matched the description given in an.

[Phil]

Earlier police of alert.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Female wearing a dress with brown hair. That is extremely unusual. It's rare to have a female attacker.

[Guest or Contributor]

Please say the attack.

[Phil]

Insane.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I shouldn't laugh.

[Phil]

I mean the fact that, you know, he says a female attacker, right. Like it is actually not rare at all.

[Davey Jackson]

It is with a massive hog.

[Phil]

Yeah. It's not rare for. For trans people to go and shoot up schools or whatever anymore. Nowadays it's actually very common. Common to have trans people that are attacking, you know, society in, in one way or another. So the fact that, that the that was Sky News. The fact that the anchor for Sky News was, was not just, you know, not just talking about what had happened, but actually even trying to tell people that they, you know, that this is a rare thing, that because women don't do this. And it's like, look, it wasn't a woman. It was a. It was a guy.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I mean, a girl in a dress with brown hair might as well be in any other day of the week. I do think there's a. With mental illness and them being trans. So we are seeing this increase in trans shooters, and I think a big part of that is because they are dealing with serious mental illness, again, in an unironic, in a serious way.

[Ian Crossland]

Absolutely. I would love to stop focusing on the transgender aspect or transsexual aspect of the human. Focus more on if someone is warped, if someone is broken mentally, if they've been. That's the problem.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Whether it's the mentally ill are being taken advantage of. The autistic people are being taken advantage of. People who are confused about their identity. Identity are being taken advantage of. Puberty is a difficult time, particularly for women, and they are being taken advantage of.

[Ian Crossland]

People that are compassionate are being taken advantage of. It's the vector of attack of this machine is compassion. They're. They're getting people to use their own feelings of empathy. Like, oh, there's this homeless, dying, sick person on the ground. You wouldn't just leave them there, would you? Then here, bring them all into your house.

[Elad Eliyahu]

But even rolling this back to the like, how do. How do people get encouraged to transition? It's again, people who feel. Feel legitimately uncomfortable with their bodies, which can be okay, but that doesn't mean you need to butcher your own body. So again, it really is taking advantage of retards, young women in the mentally ill, because those people are the most susceptible ones to think they have issues with their body and are the most likely to be and most capable of being taken advantage of.

[Phil]

Libby and I were talking about this when we were in Florida on one of the shows. The incidences of anorexia and bulimia have dropped, stopped. Whereas the incident incidences of trans, trans women or no trans men, has increased. A lot of it is body dysmorphia. The trans situation that we've got going on, it's actually a manifestation of a bunch of different things in, in females and women, it tends to be, you know, body dysmorphia. Whereas when it comes to trans women, men, it's. It tends to be things like autogynephilia and, and mental disorder or other mental disorders, but it's manifest.

[Davey Jackson]

So if you're a man and you're having body dysmorphia, you're gay is what I mean.

[Phil]

I. I mean, there's just a male. There's a lot, I think a lot of gay people that are like, oh, you're erasing gay people because you're telling young gay people that actually they're trans. And. And so there's a big portion of the LGBTQ or LGBT lobby, the LGB lobby, that says bq. Yeah, that's.

[Ian Crossland]

That says.

[Phil]

That says, oh, this, this trans stuff is actually erased. Facing gay people.

[Davey Jackson]

Well, that's why you. You've seen, like, a large part of the gay population disassociate. Yeah. From the trans movement. The other thing that I think is really interesting is seeing some of the D transition now where, like, they, they. It was almost like a fad at school and everyone was doing it. So now I'm, you know, and you see these people that are d. Transitioning and telling their story about that, and the way they get attacked by the trans community is mind blowing because it's like, what I'm talking, serious threats.

[Kangmin Lee]

Because what's worse than the enemy is a traitor. And so if they view you as a traitor, view you with so much more contempt than they do the enemy. Right. So they'll view us as the enemy, the far right fascists who want to take away their rights and everything and genocide them. But then they see D transitioners, like, oh, you are with us, but now you betrayed us.

[Guest or Contributor]

You're not just an infidel.

[Ian Crossland]

So that's, you know, getting.

[Phil]

Oh, there you go.

[Davey Jackson]

Back to the Muslim girl.

[Kangmin Lee]

Seriously, you're an apostle. It's. It's different.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You look like a revert with that beanie on.

[Davey Jackson]

Hey, hey, dude, I'm gay and I'm Muslim, dude. What do you want?

[Ian Crossland]

Talking about getting people to turn on huge segments of society is like, genetically, we're predisposed to genetically being, like, pointed at the enemy and go. Probably because our ancestors, those were the people that survived. They weren't the good guys, but they were the people that would mobilize the masses and get them to kill a bunch of people. And they're like, see, now we're in trouble. Charge. And it's like, it's so easy to manipulate people into hating and killing. It's got to be. We evolved to a point where we stop that way of being. It's got to happen. Like, if there's going to be a great war superseded by AI that, like, takes care of people that are psychotic. I don't know, man. I don't like it.

[Davey Jackson]

That's how we turn men into men again. Dude.

[Kangmin Lee]

Go to war.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Trip to Taiwan. I don't know if Kingman wants to come. I know they have some ethnic beef, but.

[Kangmin Lee]

No, I like the rest of the. I do like the Taiwanese.

[Phil]

You know, you're talking more talking about D transitioners. There was just a. A D transitioner that was awarded $2 million because her mother felt pressured by the psychologist and by the doctor. The child was 15 when she started dressing like a boy and. And began social transition. And then 11 months later, that's when she got surgery. 11 months. She got it at 16 years old.

[Elad Eliyahu]

It's particularly pernicious for young women because start puberty. It's a very traumatic time for them. They're used to being viewed in one way without breasts, and now they're beginning to be sexualized, and they just want to stay the way it was, and they don't want to be viewed differently by their peers. And that doesn't mean they're not a woman anymore. But the way that it manifests in the way people try to abuse them is by encouraging them to be men and telling them that they're men and tricking them and saying a double mastectomy. It'll go back to how things were beforehand, but it's not the truth. And misleading young women, I think, is particularly traumatic. And, Davey, I think you were spot on. Part of why they get so much hate, too, is because they delegitimize the cause so effectively. So I actually know some D transistor. D transistors.

[Ian Crossland]

D transistors, dude.

[Phil]

Hell, yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And they all say the same thing. When they were younger, they were going through puberty and being taken and felt like they were being taken advantage of. I also know women with large breasts who, when they were younger, tell me, like, hey, this really changed the way how I was being viewed by others. And it made me feel very uncomfortable in my own body. And I thought that I was a man because of that, or at least not a woman. But again, it's just the troubles of going through puberty, which, again, could be a very tumultuous time for people. And it's really sad because these are our most vulnerable people in our society being taken advantage of. Thankfully, though, I think we are heading a little bit in the opposite direction.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah. Chloe Cole. Cole Stepped out into the oncoming traffic. And like blasted the world with the truth like four years ago. She's so awesome. And now what? She's 22, had her breasts cut off when she was 15 or something.

[Phil]

Crazy fast tracked through and you know, to that point about, you know, that happening at T as teenagers, if you talk to normies like people that are not particularly politically aware, they'll tell you no, that doesn't happen to kids. They don't do it to kids.

[Davey Jackson]

It's only no idea, dude.

[Phil]

They have no idea.

[Davey Jackson]

There's so much ignorance about that. They're so confident they'll attack you in, in the comments on social. This doesn't happen. This isn't a real thing. And then you show them a couple. Well that's just like, yeah, no, dude, it's very common. Yeah.

[Kangmin Lee]

And I have no idea the kind of books that is being shown to kinder kindergarteners and preschoolers. It's absolutely insane. I, I really do think it's really sad because whether it's anorexia and bulimia or it's, you know, the modern social contagion of transgenderism when it regards in regards to women, it's like all these young women all just want to be loved, right? They just all want to be loved. And all of these social contagions are just attacks on their very, you know, rudimentary and you know, just very basic desire to be loved. And this is why it's like very important as men too. Where you know, I do rag on women a lot on social media, but I really do. It's because I care.

[Davey Jackson]

You don't have a hot girlfriend, dude.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, that's true. No, but I do care about the general well being of women because I believe that men and women should complement one another. And as men, yes, we need to call out the faults and the sins of women in modern society. But we also need to step up as men and be show women that hey, like there are good men who exist.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yes.

[Kangmin Lee]

Where we can, yeah, we can be fun, we can be crass, we can crack jokes and all these things, but we also mean business and we will protect you when push comes to shove and to give them that security and just to let them know, like, hey, it's okay to be a woman. Yeah, I, I, I think that's really, really needed because healthy masculine energy complements and brings out healthy feminine energy and then the vice versa, you know, healthy feminine energy brings out healthy masculine.

[Phil]

Are you guys familiar with that? The, there was a, a trend or whatever that was going on on, on Instagram and TikTok where like a girl would be like, oh, what's going through my head when we're walking down the street and she's like, da da da da. Like not paying attention anything. And then that she goes to and it switches to her boyfriend that's like, okay, that guy looks weird. We're going to move over here. Okay. Someone comes out this door and it's like that really kind of encapsulates what a relationship should be like.

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[Phil]

Visit rkbeverages.com allow by being a man that will take care of your woman and protect your girlfriend or your wife or whatever and protect your family and take the responsibility ability that comes along with that. You allow the woman to go ahead and say, you know what, I trust this guy. I believe that he'll protect me so I can worry about things that, you know, that I can. You know, women that want to worry about women don't want to worry about, you know, being attacked and stuff like that. You hear women and particularly feminists and stuff, they say, you know, we shouldn't have to worry about this and we shouldn't have to worry about that. I shouldn't have to. And you know what, to be honest with you, you shouldn't. You're right. And it's terrible that there are people out there that will take advantage of you and hurt you. But we live in the real world. And that kind of danger has been a reality for all of human history.

[Kangmin Lee]

And it always will be.

[Phil]

Yeah, and it always will be. And so that's, that's why if you're a man, you're responsible for taking care of your girlfriend. That's why if you're a man, it is expected that, like, if some dude comes up, you're going to be the one that gets in the way and gets punched in the face, you know, and that's what happens.

[Davey Jackson]

Wait, I mean.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I think you solved the issue to the female trans issue. It's really just male love. That's all they need.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, that's, that's. And that's why I said in the beginning, right. Like women untethered from healthy masculine authority become crazy. And so they just need good male figures in their life. And that's, that's really all it is.

[Davey Jackson]

What are the boys women need then? Fathers need to put the porn down to become.

[Phil]

Women need to put the porn down.

[Ian Crossland]

They need.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, they need.

[Davey Jackson]

Also masculine in love.

[Phil]

There's nothing wrong with that type of love too.

[Ian Crossland]

It's an interesting concept because the Greeks broke it into eight different types of love. You know, there's erotic love. That's not, you know, necessarily. There's, there's like love of self, there's love of the community, there's familial love, there's friendship, love of friendship. There's flirtatious love. And like, a child needs to see a man in exact all of those with his wife in order to emulate and to know, like, it can be safe, like, it's okay to be a girl.

[Phil]

The best thing you can do for your. The best thing a man can do for his children is to love his wife. Wife in front of like, not sexually, but like in front of them. Treat your, treat your, your, your treat your child's mother? Well, yeah, and that's going to teach the child how to treat women and, and treat the opposite sex. The. Because the kids like, that's mom, right? Like a little kid is like, that's mom. I love her. She's the best thing in the world. Blah, blah, blah. If he sees dad disrespecting her or being aggressive with her or just being crappy, like, he's going to think that's how you're supposed to. Is to treat him. So the best thing that a father can do for a child is to love that child's Mother conditions love her openly and love her fully.

[Davey Jackson]

It conditions the boys to understand, okay, this is how I treat women, and it conditions the girls to believe this is what I deserve.

[Phil]

Exactly.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah. So it is very symbiotic. But also, at the same time, I do have a lot of trans friends. And trans female friend, not trans guy friends.

[Phil]

Feel.

[Elad Eliyahu]

No, wait. Trans, female, male, or female friends.

[Davey Jackson]

They. They are now female.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Okay.

[Davey Jackson]

And some of them are hot, dude. I don't think we can overlook that.

[Phil]

Why do I feel like you didn't say no to the pegging? Hang on, dude.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Dude, are you trans?

[Davey Jackson]

Whoa. No. Let's not get that rumor started. I'm gay and I'm trans, and I'm Muslim.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Both you and Ian are very pretty with the long hair, very silky.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm a trans.

[Kangmin Lee]

You're calling dudes pretty?

[Davey Jackson]

Don't make me throw it on the table right now, bro.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I was going to say Koreans look the most androgynous, so if anything, you might. The prettiest one.

[Kangmin Lee]

And it's actually funny. No, it's. There's, like, there's.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You wanted to go trans. I think you do the most convincing job of anybody. I don't know any facial hair. You cannot grow a mustache.

[Kangmin Lee]

I can.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You have two hairs on your chest.

[Guest or Contributor]

That's the craziest insult I've ever heard in my life.

[Kangmin Lee]

No, it's funny because I did go viral.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Such soft skin.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, yeah. I'd bang you, dude.

[Kangmin Lee]

Absolutely. When I wasn't you, when I pissed off the Indians earlier last year, they made a viral meme of me where they took my profile picture, and then they put some makeup on me and a wig, and they're like, look, Korean men and Korean women. What's the difference?

[Phil]

What?

[Kangmin Lee]

Crazy. Viral. So viral. Still going viral right now. Where some kids in my church are like, hey, is this you? Like, even kids are seeing it.

[Davey Jackson]

The kids are just jealous, bro. I know, I know.

[Phil]

It's a bad sign when someone's bringing up a picture. Is this you?

[Kangmin Lee]

I know, I know. It's so funny.

[Ian Crossland]

I used to do theater in, like, my junior year. I played larities and Hamlet.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, he's gay.

[Elad Eliyahu]

He's.

[Ian Crossland]

I look at myself.

[Davey Jackson]

You're gonna love this.

[Ian Crossland]

Wait, it gets better. And then I look at myself in the mirror and be like, I would make a hot chick, but then that doesn't make me gay.

[Guest or Contributor]

What?

[Davey Jackson]

All right, you be the next Blair White dude.

[Kangmin Lee]

We're gonna. Well, I do want to say one last.

[Ian Crossland]

A cross dresser. Blair said that One time, I think.

[Kangmin Lee]

Everything we just discussed. Discussed. It really does remind me of why I hate feminism so much, because it really breaks the bonds that daughters have with their fathers and wives have with their husbands. Where, you know, you go to any wedding ceremony, right. The father walks the bride down the aisle and then hands her off to the groom. And people are like, oh, it's symbolic. No, it's literal. It's literal because she goes from the protection of her father now to the protection of. Of her husband.

[Phil]

Yep.

[Kangmin Lee]

But feminists have convinced a woman that, no, you don't need no man. You do your thing, boss, babe, you go queen. It's like, no. Like. Like, even feminists say we shouldn't have to live in fear. Yes, you shouldn't. But the solution to bad men is not to put down men. It's good men. And no matter how much women try to convince themselves that they are strong, as strong as men, as quick as men, like, no. Like, in any situation, men will always overpower women. So the solution to women's safety and their flourishing is not to put down men and try to convince women that they can be like men and just make inferior versions of men out of women, but is to encourage and honor good men. Say, hey, we encourage you guys. We appreciate you guys, and we honor you guys in how you guys look out for us and protect, protect us. And that is the solution, I believe, really, to all the gender debate where women need to uplift men and men need to be willing to protect and provide for women.

[Phil]

Yeah, absolutely. That's a great point. We're gonna jump to this story here from the New York Post. Right? Yeah, from the New York Post. Olympian Ellen Ellen Goose. Decision to snub us and ski for China is nothing short of a hypocrisy. And I agree. The champion, it's. It's not. It's easy being. Being Elaine Goo.

[Kangmin Lee]

Eileen.

[Phil]

I think the champion freestyle.

[Davey Jackson]

Guys, we could fix her.

[Elad Eliyahu]

She's happy.

[Phil]

The champion freestyle skier said the other day after she had to settle for a silver medal in an event at the Olympics, that sometimes it feels like I'm carrying the weight of two countries on my shoulders. Goo would be carrying the weight of only one country if she had chosen to represent her native USA at the games rather than a hostile, total totalitarian state. Gua skis for China, a choice that is a little like deciding to represent a fascist country during the 1930s. China is bent on undermining u. S. Power and supplant supplanting western values. It Runs a gulag and has established a surveillance state that would make George Orwell blush a little.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Like, a little. I think she did this in the last Olympic as well, where she.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yeah, she did.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I don't know.

[Davey Jackson]

I mean, I'd give her my Goo.

[Guest or Contributor]

Did you say defect.

[Kangmin Lee]

On his mind?

[Elad Eliyahu]

I think she's a dual citizen, but she. I don't know if China allows dual citizens, though. I need to look into it.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah. So. So from what I know is that she is suspected to have dual citizenship. I looked, looked this up because this was obviously a huge point of controversy this week, especially among Asian Americans. But it's suspected that she has dual citizenship, but China doesn't allow for dual citizenship. So she hasn't publicly ever stated what her citizenship is, status is. But we can suspect that she is a dual citizen.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And I believe her mother is a Chinese woman and her father was an.

[Kangmin Lee]

American opposite, I think. Oh, because her last name's Goo. Goo's not in a white fact check.

[Elad Eliyahu]

True.

[Kangmin Lee]

Right. But just the fact that she has openly stated in her statements, but also in her conduct at the Olympics by representing China, that her primary allegiance lies with. With China.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yeah.

[Kangmin Lee]

Therefore. Yeah. And regardless of what you think about China. Right. Regardless of what you think about China, her primary allegiance is to China. That is a foreign state.

[Davey Jackson]

Right.

[Kangmin Lee]

There is no reason for her to keep her American citizenship. There's no reason why America should acknowledge her American citizenship because she has abandoned it. So it's like, regardless of what you think about China, regardless of what you think about her politics, the reality is she abandoned her citizenship. She is more aligned with and more loyal to China over America, so she shouldn't be an American citizen.

[Phil]

This is, this is a point that I make a lot, and I wonder if it actually does have some kind of context with this particular story. If you are a Chinese citizen or have family in China and you're in the United States, you are essentially a national security threat because China has no compunction with applying pressure to your family in China to get you to do something. So I don't know for sure if you know, I don't know that, that she does have. That this is the situation. But it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the reason that she's skiing for China is because someone in China is like, you're going to ski for us or else we're going to throw your parents or your grandparents or your, your sister or what have you in jail if you don't. And that's like I said, I make this point a lot. If you're a Chinese national here and you have family in China, you are a security threat. Because whether it be getting a job or studying in some, some kind of, you know, high tech field or whatever, like China has no problem doing everything they can to get you to engage in espionage on behalf of China.

[Elad Eliyahu]

The implications of that would be huge. As I understand right now, that's North Korea's mo. I haven't heard of as much of it come out for China. This is definitely a bad example of dual loyalty. However, I will say I think she's just doing what's best for her career. I think she's just a young, naive woman. One side's Chinese and she probably has, has some affinity for it. And the other side's American and she probably saw opportunity there.

[Davey Jackson]

She was probably getting sponsored by prc. Oh yeah, you're going to get way more money.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Look, China could use the metal. Yeah, just say that. We don't have a lot of great athletes over there. But I will say this. We if right now we orient our military. Orient our military. Orient our military. Getting ready for a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan. If every Chinese national in America becomes this sort of national security risk, I don't know really what that means for them and individual liberties in our country because I would kind of foresee another Japanese internment camp V2 if that were the case. And that's something that could potentially not be too, too far off. So something to consider. We also have millions of Chinese Americans, patriotic Chinese Americans also. Many of the Chinese and patriots that exist in our country were exiled for one reason or another from China. China. So for example, the people at the epic times, the fallen gong, as I understand, are some sort of religious minority among others that have been banned and kicked out from China. But no, it's a major concern and her lack of patriotism is disgusting. And maybe we just deport her. Don't let her back in.

[Davey Jackson]

There's no way. She grew up in China, right?

[Kangmin Lee]

She grew up here, Yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

I mean, so it's, it's just this posturing. It's, it's completely misguided because someone that grew up in China. I tour with Zhao Ying Summers. Oh yeah, she's Chinese. She's a U.S. citizen now. But she loves America.

[Phil]

She's stealing jokes for China.

[Davey Jackson]

She is not stealing jokes.

[Kangmin Lee]

How dare you.

[Davey Jackson]

Your new name is Phil, though, after that one. Dude, that's what we're calling you now. But I mean, she loves, she is so grateful for the opportunities here because she Grew up in China. She experienced that life. This, this, she's. I mean she's ridiculous this girl, but ridiculous.

[Elad Eliyahu]

It says that not even the best picture of her.

[Ian Crossland]

She's believed to have dual citizenship, but you can, you can't in China. It's illegal in China to have dual citizenship. You're either Chinese or you're not.

[Davey Jackson]

They get it, dude. Meanwhile, we've got a mayor in New York City who still holds dual citizenship.

[Phil]

Oh, he's, he's. Yeah, yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

If they get it in China, they're doing a pretty shitty job because I would never want my country to be anything like the Chinese society.

[Ian Crossland]

So I think she's an American citizen. It's ambiguous that her, her citizens.

[Phil]

Well, I mean the thing is China makes, you know, China does what's best for China. So it's good for China, China for her to have dual citizenship then, you know, that's what China's.

[Davey Jackson]

I need to go do a lot more research on goo dude. I need to, I need to look her up and do a deep dive on this.

[Elad Eliyahu]

This happened the last Olympics too. That's why we're familiar with her.

[Guest or Contributor]

Yeah, I have a friend of mine from Utah, I think he's from New York originally, but he literally lives in China and gets paid money to teach Chinese kids how to ski. A lot of the Chinese kids are just gymnasts and they put skis on their feet and say okay, now go, go flip that jump. And he teaches them how to be that person. So like, it's not like they have, you know, natural born skiing talent in China that they have readily available to them. So they have to look out, they have to outsource. Unfortunately to Chinese Americans. I think that's what we're seeing here. And I agree, like dude, if you're going to choose that even though you have like haha, American Californian accent, you're going to choose to be Chinese. Like I mean it's a pivotal point in history to be doing that. So.

[Ian Crossland]

So here's a question ethically for you Kangmin, if you were going to serve in the Olympics of some sort of your Expertise in the US you were like 70th ranked but you were number one in South Korea and they were wanted to primary you, give you all the money, would you go play for South Korea?

[Kangmin Lee]

That's tough. That's really tough. Because my situation is I was born in Korea and I was raised here in America, but I. Most of my life I was.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Wait, you're a dual citizen?

[Kangmin Lee]

No, I'm not So I was a Korean citizen, but then in college, I gave that up and I became an American citizen.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I choice.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, yeah, dude renounced his citizenship.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I choice.

[Davey Jackson]

That's a real one right there.

[Kangmin Lee]

So, yeah, you. It's a little complicated, though, because as I understand the world a little more and I develop in my political philosophy and my beliefs, my affinity for Korea inevitably grows. Like, as a right winger, I believe in heritage, I believe in ancestry, I believe in inheritance, I believe in these things. And so when I think about my ancestry, well, I come from thousands of years in Korea. I can trace my ancestry all the way back to my founder. I actually visited his grave when I was in Korea last month. And it's like, well, this is where I come from. And then. So I'm still wrestling through whether or not I'm willing to give that up to fully commit to being an American, because I love America and I really do. And I. But I still understand that. I'm an immigrant, I'm a guest. And so, you know, people always say, I say things like, oh, foreign nationals or foreigners should not hold political office in your country. And they're like, oh, so you don't think you should be able to. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't think I should.

[Guest or Contributor]

I agree.

[Kangmin Lee]

I was born in a foreign country and I should not be able to hold public office in America.

[Phil]

People try that all the time. Like, I don't think that vote, like the vote should be universal enfranchisement. I think there should be like, real.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah, wait, let's rewind this.

[Phil]

No, hold on, hold on, hold on. Ben, People always say, they're like, oh, what, you. You don't think that you should be able. Would you give up your right to vote in a second? In a heartbeat. Because, like, if it meant that I, that we were going to have a class of citizens that were, were like, actually aware of what the three branches of government do and what their, what their job is. Those are going to be the people that were voting. As opposed to like every Tom, Dick and Harry that, you know, thinks that they're going to vote for a king, then, yes, I would absolutely give up my right to vote because I'm one of what, you know, 150 million people that can vote. Your individual right to vote is not that valuable. So. Sorry, go ahead.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I think, I think there's a lot of cope surrounding foreigners being an elected office in the United States. I mean, I think it's extremely patriotic what you did. You came from a different country, you were born in a different country and.

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[Elad Eliyahu]

To get started today to abandon that citizenship because you embraced American values so deeply. However, at the same time you think, I don't know, we should reject people like you from holding elected office. I think immigrants like you, people who chose to assimilate to the degree in which they did is a good thing and kind of like the American dream. And if you had the opportunity to run for office and the American people chose to elect you, then I think, I don't see any issue with it. We live in a democracy where people pick who their representatives would be and frankly it's anti American. As I understand we only have laws against the President not being an American born person. But as far as the rest of the elected officials go, Kingman, I think you can be one of them even though you weren't born in the US of A, dude.

[Guest or Contributor]

I've also struggled with this myself because I was born outside the United States and became an American as well. But along with a lot of saying if you are become American, you have to learn a lot more about the country. You have to learn about how the, how the system works, who did what when. Basic history stuff that you need to know in order to properly represent America as an American. I would say and I've done all that stuff because you've had, because I've had to do that. I feel like it made me much more, I have much more affinity for America and I understand why America does these things and why America works this way. And to be fair, we used to have civics classes which we taught in this country and we stopped that stuff and that, and when we stopped stop that stuff, we've started to see way more people be like disenfranchised, feeling disillusioned with the, with the country, feeling like I don't really have anything to do with it. So I think maybe it doesn't necessarily mean like we're more or less American than another person. But it does mean that like we, we care about this idea which America is. I mean, America is an idea and has always been an idea of other people from other backgrounds coming to bring to forth the idea that all men are created equal under God. I think that's important.

[Kangmin Lee]

I, I, I get what you're saying, but I, I just fundamentally reject that. America is an idea. America? America? Yeah. America is a people. And so it is a people. Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

So if America is a people, are you included in it?

[Kangmin Lee]

Well, I'm an immigrant and so I think you can assimilate and have people become part of people.

[Guest or Contributor]

It's a culture.

[Kangmin Lee]

It's like, it's like another analogy. I always use Korea because, you know, Korea is, I'm Korean, I come from Korea. But you know, let's say we have Korea, right? And then a Japanese person comes and, and begins, you know, learns Korean, speaks Korean and assimilates into Korea. Is that Japanese person Korean? No, absolutely not. But if that Japanese person marries a Korean and then for many generations assimilates and to the extent, like they're indistinguishable from other Koreans. Yeah, they're Korean. Right. So there are immigrants who can assimilate and for many generations, well, they wouldn't be Korean.

[Elad Eliyahu]

It would be the offsprings down the line that you would perceive as being Korean. Wait, so what more thing. So if America isn't an idea and a people, isn't that exclusionary to people like you or.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Okay.

[Guest or Contributor]

Culture, I think as well, when I say idea, I mean it's a culture because it's shared beliefs. It's shared like fundamental Morse. It is. It's also people, people's home. People have been born here, people live here. I understand what that means. I know exactly what that means. I'm not trying to, to, to besmirch that anyway, but I am here to say like, America is important. I even posted my Twitter yesterday being like, you know, if it means that America becomes the shining city on a hill that it should be as this hope for human humanity, I would be like the first on the boat going back. Send me to South Africa, bro. I'm, I'm out of here. Because I believe that America needs to succeed. That's how much I feel the world needs, it's so important.

[Phil]

The world needs the unit.

[Guest or Contributor]

The world needs the US the reason it succeeds, humanity.

[Ian Crossland]

Because we take people like you and put them on the boat like, and you too, like, we need you as an American citizen. We need the best people on Earth because we're trying to create the best government on Earth. So I, I think you're fully. I mean, maybe you, an immigrant, I think, think it's a. I don't you say fully if you're fully American. Dude, you probably understand civics better than I do.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah. Here, here's the thing.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Here's.

[Kangmin Lee]

Here's like, you're one of us.

[Guest or Contributor]

Welcome.

[Kangmin Lee]

Thank you, thank you. I appreciate it.

[Phil]

But what do you mean by.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Wait, am I part of it? I was born here. I. I wasn't born in any foreign country like you two immigrants.

[Kangmin Lee]

No, here's my point on this, where, like, America is a people people. And then so when you start to get away from this idea that America, and like, you can say America is an idea, but then you look at the Constitution and who was the Constitution written for? Who was the country built for? It was Americans, their posterity. Right. And so, yeah, it's for Americans and their posterity. So the posterity, the descendants of those who built America. Now you can have immigrants assimilate. Yes, of course. But the reality is people like me, especially those who come from very different cultures, and of course there's a lot of similar similarities between the west and the east, but you see this a lot with Somalian immigrants and, you know, African immigrants and Arab immigrants and all these things where, yes, you're going to have patriots, those who love America and very grateful for America, not only for its economic opportunity, but for what America stands for. Its traditions, its customs, its history, its myth, its legends, its values. Yes, but I'm a rarity. I am a rarity. You know how many times I've been called a race traitor on the Internet and online? You know how many friends I've lost?

[Elad Eliyahu]

Few Koreans have been the model minority.

[Kangmin Lee]

No, but the thing is, most Korean Americans don't think the way that I do. And this is, this is where Korean Americans are. Even the ones who agree with me are still a minority among most Korean Americans who. Yes, Korean Americans who moved here, yes, they all agree with me. But the children of Korean Americans, the second generation, the third generation, they largely disappoint, disagree with me. They are very left wing. Asian Americans, especially Asian American women are the most liberal demographic in America by far. So, yeah, so that's why I say it's like if I. Me not being able to run for office prevents people like Maisie Hirono from being in office. Absolutely, absolutely. And I don't see anything wrong with that, because those who should make the rules and enact legislation and lead the country should be American Americans in the same way, I wouldn't want to see, you know, Indians or Japanese or all these different or white people. God bless all you guys. Lead and be in parliament in Korea, in the national assembly in Korea, be the President of Korea, things like that, right? So you know, people say I'm a self hating immigrant. No, like I love who I am, right. I am Korean, but I also Korean American because I grew up in America. So I'm an American, but I'm Korean. So I'm still struggling through that identity.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Well, you're ethnically Korean. You're not a citizen of the rok, you're an American citizen.

[Kangmin Lee]

But anywhere I go in the world, right, they'll instantly recognize me as Korean first. You know, when I go to Korea, they never speak to me in English first. They speak to me in Korean first. Why? Because I look Korean and I come.

[Elad Eliyahu]

To Korean in Korea. They view you still as a Korean.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, absolutely. Because. Because it's just, that's who I am, right? So I'm still struggling and I'm still wrestling through this identity crisis that I have. But ultimately I love America. I love America. I love its Christian foundation, the rich history that America has. I do not apologize, apologize for America's history at all. People say, disavow this. Yes, there were flaws in every nation's history. But I love America so much. But at the same time, I recognize that I'm an immigrant, I'm a guest and I want to, I want America to be America as much as possible, which is America for its descendants. And that's what I believe.

[Phil]

I don't want you voting. But at the same time, I don't want any of us voting either. We vote.

[Ian Crossland]

We don't have an ethnic ethnicity in the US that's the difference about this country. Like almost every other country on earth, especially the older countries, there's no ethnic thing to go back to.

[Kangmin Lee]

Like, I do believe that there was an ethnogenesis in America at its founding. I do believe that it was mainly West Africans and white Anglo Saxon Protestants. And that was the ethnogenesis of America. Where, yes, like those West Africans and the, the, you know, the foundational black Americans they call themselves, but they, yes, they are Americans. I believe that they are Americans. But they, there was a distinct ethnogenesis, I believe in American history when at the foundation of America it was white Anglo Saxon Protestants and West Africans. And now doesn't, doesn't mean that if you're not of those lineages that you can never become American. No, I don't believe that. Like, some of the greatest Americans in history have been, like, Italian immigrants and things like that. Right. But I. I think we have to be real. I, I love the Italians. The Italians are great.

[Davey Jackson]

It's funny you bring up Africans, because I don't know if y' all noticed, but I had to go take an extremely long pee break because of pool water. I noticed. Yeah. And while I was in there, I came up with the solution to all of this. Guys.

[Kangmin Lee]

What is it?

[Davey Jackson]

This fixes everything. We have to get Kingman a black wife so that he can then populate. Hear me out. So you can populate America with Blasians.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Dude, I think, if anything, we need more Eileen Goo. I don't know if we need more.

[Davey Jackson]

Imagine if Eileen.

[Kangmin Lee]

Tiger Woods.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I don't know. Do we need more Tiger Woods?

[Kangmin Lee]

Well, Tiger woods is a little different.

[Davey Jackson]

N. No. You just got to make sure you got the right combo, Mr. Ward.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

Blas. Blazing babies. Finding you a black wife.

[Elad Eliyahu]

That's what I'm saying. What do you think about that?

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah. Black women love me. They love me. I, I, I. I love black women as well. I just. I don't think I'd marry one. Whoa.

[Davey Jackson]

You never. Ruining the whole thing.

[Kangmin Lee]

I know. I'm sorry. I'm ruining the.

[Davey Jackson]

You know what? If you don't like black women, joke about that.

[Elad Eliyahu]

He. He can't even joke about dating if.

[Davey Jackson]

He doesn't like black women. He cannot wear a quarter turtle like that. Absolutely not.

[Kangmin Lee]

Where's the correlation?

[Davey Jackson]

There's a direct correlation. I think we all know.

[Phil]

Are you looking for a Korean wife or. Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Don't you want to marry a real American black woman, you know, who was descended from a descendant of.

[Davey Jackson]

Look how well it turned out for Bill Burr.

[Kangmin Lee]

Dude, she's a Trinidad. Trinidad.

[Ian Crossland]

So would you prefer for. I mean, we could go to super chats, too. I think we got a boatload of people that want to chime in, but, like, would you marry, like, a Korean chick or, like, an American girl that's Korean heritage?

[Davey Jackson]

Would you put your goo and goo. I mean, that's.

[Kangmin Lee]

I wouldn't put my goo and goo.

[Davey Jackson]

Unbelievable.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah. What's wrong with you? She's an American.

[Davey Jackson]

I'm no longer the gayest guy. I am no longer the only other question I had.

[Ian Crossland]

You don't have to answer the last question. What's the biggest difference between American culture and Korean culture?

[Phil]

The number one Koreans.

[Ian Crossland]

That aside, because I Find imperialistic nature of Eastern Asia is very important in those cultures. But I'd like to hear what your.

[Kangmin Lee]

Thoughts are, I guess, like, American. I think this is kind of the distinction between America and the rest of the world. But I think America is still very individualistic versus Korea is individualistic in certain regards, for sure, but they're still broadly collectivist. And so there's so many things you can break that down into and different how that manifests in different ways in society. But I think that's one way, of course, you know, like the food we consume and the language we speak.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Even bigger than that. Koreans are patriarchal. They're a patriarchal society and a patriarchal people with deep respect for their elders and particularly the men. That's completely lacking here. I've had some Korean friends growing up, and that's one of the things that I really appreciated about their society and culture. But it really can't be understated. Their respect for, like, the actual people patriarchy here in America. That's what they're trying to tear down.

[Kangmin Lee]

It's because Confucianism was, like the main religion before Japanese annexation, and then during Japanese colonialism, Christianity, like, boomed. And so Christianity became the dominant religion in Korea. But because of the Confucian roots, like, Confucianism is very big on filial piety and respecting your elders and your ancestors, and very patriarchal. So that's why. And. But they're trying to do away with a lot of that in Korea because a lot of the liberals are like, oh, we live in it in a different era. Times are different.

[Davey Jackson]

I think a lot of Americans need to travel to Asia. Like, when I went to Japan right after I got caught in TSA with a pew pew in my backpack on accident while I was there, what was shocking to me was the honor society. I think that there's, like, this culture of honor, right? Like, you don't talk on public transit. If you're on the bus or the train, you keep your voice down, and everyone's very quiet. They don't have public trash can cans in Japan because your trash is your responsibility. It's not on the public whatever to take care of that. You got to take. So there's this honor that I think we. Dude, we need some of that in America.

[Elad Eliyahu]

When there's not a trash can around, people just throw on the floor.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, dude.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Japan, they don't have a trash bag. They put it in their pocket and wait until they go home.

[Davey Jackson]

Exactly.

[Kangmin Lee]

I mean, we need some of that, dude.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Kangmin Lee]

You go to India. Like, trash is literally. It belongs on the floor in India. But no, I think that's actually.

[Davey Jackson]

Some might say it's just trash.

[Kangmin Lee]

That's actually a good point, because when I was in Korea, whenever I go to Korea, I can leave my laptop, I can leave my belongings.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Kangmin Lee]

Just anywhere. I just leave it there. I go to the bathroom, I go do something else, I come back, it's there. It's always there.

[Phil]

Same thing if you go to a ski resort in the United States.

[Elad Eliyahu]

That's a.

[Kangmin Lee]

Because who's not at ski resorts, you know?

[Phil]

Well, I mean, it's the truth. You see all this expensive equipment, everyone just leaves it around. That's true.

[Kangmin Lee]

That's true.

[Phil]

So, all right, we're gonna go to your Rumble Rants and your super chats right now. So smash the like button, share the show with all your friends, go to timcast.com and become a member there where you can join our Discord. Normally we go and do the after show, but today's Friday, so there will be no after show. But if you join the Discord, you can call into the show, you can ask questions of our guests, you can ask questions of the cast, and then you want to head over to rumble.com and become a member there again for the after show. The Rumble after show, Monday through Thursday. Thursday is uncensored, where we can say things that will get us in Trouble on YouTube, which is still kind of annoying. But anyways, we're going to go to your. Your super chats and Rumble Rats Rumble Rants right now. Wyatt Cladenberg says. Don Lemon, journalist or political propagandist? I think he's a political propagandist.

[Davey Jackson]

My.

[Phil]

My honest opinion, I think that nowadays the left and the right have. Have become so. So ossified and so separate that you. It's really hard to find people that are just telling you the news. There might be some outlets out there that really do try to. To give you both sides of the story. They're very few and far between, particularly because most people go to the Internet for their news and they go to places that kind of feed them things that they want to hear. Generally. Do you guys have a different.

[Elad Eliyahu]

The lines between activism and journalism is becoming increasingly blurred. In my experience covering journal journalism, it's all activists with motivated reasoning with their journalism. Why do you think people usually stumble upon the stories that they do? It's because they're choosing to research into the things that they don't like. So that line is getting scrubbed not only on the left, but on the right as well, just writ large in our society.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, there's no such thing as impartial, unbiased journalism, though. Everyone has a bias. Everyone has their own personal beliefs that, you know, motivate them to do what they do. Like you said, to look out for the stories and research the stories that they do do. And so there's no such thing as unbiased journalism. Oh, real journalism is dead. It's all propaganda. It's all to a certain extent propaganda. It's just a matter of we have to be able to discern what is truth and what is fiction and be able to kind of wade through, hey, like, this person has a left wing bias and this person has a right wing bias and then just like get to the fullness of the truth.

[Davey Jackson]

Well, I think, I think people understand that all media is biased. All, all journalism is biased. And that's why you seen this huge wave going towards independent journalists. Because at least if I'm going to be getting biased news, let me get it from the people that I agree with or that agree with me. And that's what's happening right now. And I mean, whether you like it or not, it's kind of cool, you know, But I always say you don't hate the media and you don't hate politicians enough, so.

[Elad Eliyahu]

True.

[Phil]

That's absolutely true.

[Ian Crossland]

Some people want to like, know what happened and then other people want to know how to feel about what happened. Yeah, that's a dangerous mindset. If you ever find yourself wondering how you're supposed to feel about something, you probably don't need to hear about it from someone else.

[Kangmin Lee]

Like, but that, that's the majority of people, though. The majority of people want to know how to feel about what happened. And that's just how people are. Because people, most people, even if they're politically inclined, they still defer to authority. And because we are all beings to. We all are. Like, it's ingrained in all of us to be submitting to some sort of authority. And we all in our own lives have authority figures that we all defer to in certain aspects of life or even like certain beliefs. Like Christians, they defer to their pastors, children, they deferred to their parents. You know, Hasan Piker's audience defers to Hasan Piker, things like that. Right. So, so the reality is most people, and this is why we always have an elite class in society, because the elite class end up being the people who are the ones who dictate the discourse. And things like that and then the rest of the populace are the ones who kind of follow along whoever the leaders are. And that's just how society is always structured.

[Davey Jackson]

Mentality, baby.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Patriot Paladin says I could go to another country, renounce my citizenship, gain new citizen citizenship, take office and subvert the will of the country. That's that. I mean, that's why you can't become the president in the United States if you're not from the United States. And I do think that that's a good argument for why people shouldn't hold office if they're, if they're a first generation immigrant. I, I mean, look, I know there are a lot of people that, that make us think about it one way or the other. I don't honestly think that it's that big of a deal if you're like, look, if you're a first generation immigrant, you can't become, you know, a politician. It's not a big ass to be like.

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[Phil]

Okay. You know, wait until you're you know, or, you know, you. You don't do it. Your kids could, you know, I. I.

[Davey Jackson]

Mean, or at least just renounce your other citizenship. I mean, Ted Cruz, for as much as I dislike him, at least he renounced his Canadian citizenship.

[Phil]

He was.

[Elad Eliyahu]

He.

[Phil]

He was always an American citizen because he was born to American parents, I'm pretty sure.

[Davey Jackson]

But he had dual citizenship in Canada.

[Phil]

Born in Canada. So he just. So he was. He was. He had d. CIT and he just renounced the Canadian. Yeah, you know, I don't think that's a tall ask.

[Elad Eliyahu]

You know, look, if you go to another country and you become a citizen of that country and they have a democratic process and vote UN Win, that's their problem. I guess that's just how democracies work, in my view.

[Kangmin Lee]

I don't. I just defer to the founders. I just want to go back to America a little more.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I don't understand, Kingman. The founders didn't say foreigners can't become citizens, and then, you know, go through the democratic. Well, I guess the founding fathers didn't say most people who vote now can vote, so. I don't even know what I'm saying.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah, I mean, most of the states, you had to be a Christian to hold.

[Elad Eliyahu]

The founders would not recognize the country that we stay in at all 50 states. What are we talking about? About, like, the expansion of power, the Supreme Court, judicial review. What are we talking about?

[Davey Jackson]

Imagine if you showed a founder hentai. Oh, my God.

[Phil]

It'd be like, this is blasphemy. You're going to hell. You need to go to. To church. Go to church. Let's see. Is this an actual. Yeah. Dom117 says in Tim cast tradition. My wife started labor for our fourth and final child. Child Elwyn. She said she'll say hi sometime tomorrow. Everyone else needs to catch up if we are to beat the commies. Absolutely. Congratulations.

[Davey Jackson]

Have those babies.

[Phil]

Bringing another patriot into the world. Yeah, absolutely.

[Ian Crossland]

Get it done.

[Phil]

Let's see, we got another one. Decepticon Brian, I think it is. My wife and I are in the. In the delivery room waiting on our first boy to be born. Our wonderful and joyous blessing, Gabriel Griffin. Excited to be a father and raise another patriot. God bless Tim Cat's crew. All right, let's go.

[Davey Jackson]

I like the. I like the alliteration on the name, too. Gabriel Griffin.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

Gigi.

[Guest or Contributor]

Oh, yeah.

[Phil]

I hope the last name isn't.

[Davey Jackson]

Isn't Alan.

[Phil]

And start with a G is definitely not G.G. allen. Let's see. Excuse me. Angry old man says Squeeze the Lemon by Daniel Plar. Available on all platforms. I guess it's an ad for his. Hopefully his book. I don't know. Squeeze the Lemon. Chief Corey Anderson says the DOJ should get information off of Lemon's phone, drop charges against him, then release a press release thanking him for his helping cooperation. Two birds, one stone. No one would trust Lemon. I mean, like, yeah, if they're just like, hey, he's. He was our guy from the start. No, I wasn't. No, I wasn't. You know, he'd be. He'd be tossed under the bus. They're throwing Will Stancil under the bus.

[Davey Jackson]

His white husband would divorce him.

[Kangmin Lee]

Dude, I feel so bad for that guy.

[Phil]

I don't. I don't.

[Kangmin Lee]

I just.

[Phil]

I don't.

[Elad Eliyahu]

What's this?

[Phil]

Will St. Will Stancil is a.

[Elad Eliyahu]

He's.

[Phil]

He's a leftist, and he's been, you know, a very vocal leftist. And. And. And pushing is basically every leftist idea that you could possibly have.

[Guest or Contributor]

It wasn't enough.

[Phil]

No, it wasn't enough. No, no.

[Kangmin Lee]

He was attacked by ICE Professor.

[Phil]

It was physically attacked. Yeah.

[Guest or Contributor]

Dude, if you can't. If you can't be like. If you can't be Will Stancil, and that's still not, like, left enough. Like, yo, they're. They're coming for you.

[Phil]

I mean, but that.

[Elad Eliyahu]

To your.

[Phil]

To your point, though, like, it's. It's not enough. Like, as soon as someone believes that you have somehow become a traitor, which we were talking about earlier, then they ostracize you and they attack you, you know, with the full force of the left, because they look at you as a traitor, and they're like, what happened.

[Davey Jackson]

To Stephen A. Smith and Van Jones?

[Guest or Contributor]

Oh, true.

[Davey Jackson]

The comments that they made around Charlie Kirk. I mean, they went after those guys.

[Phil]

Yeah, the. The left is absolutely ruthless. And. And in today's climate, when violence is so accepted on the left, you know, just being on the left left, you're in danger. And this is part of the reason why Cancel Culture works so, so well that the first people that were getting canceled before it started making, you know, making its way into the broader society were people on the left. If you were in these niche groups or whatever, you. You said the wrong thing. People would pile on you, you know.

[Davey Jackson]

Have you followed the Scotty K Fitness thing at all?

[Phil]

I have followed that a little bit.

[Davey Jackson]

I don't want to derail or anything. That's a perfect example of what you're talking about. Talking about he put himself in this echo chamber.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

And then come to find out, oh, he's got a little bit of a background. So now, I mean, he's just crumbling.

[Phil]

And they're. They're more ruthless than the right will ever be. They are absolutely ruthless. They will go after you in every way they can. They'll dox you.

[Davey Jackson]

The right's going after their own too, now. I mean, I've. I've experienced it.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

Because I didn't. I didn't condemn Bad Bunny. Just like, oh, well, I'm gonna unfollow you.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, comments on the Internet.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Yeah.

[Phil]

What was that?

[Ian Crossland]

AI. Garbage comments.

[Elad Eliyahu]

If.

[Ian Crossland]

It's just. If the people you're thinking of are just comments. Don't trust any of it. Any of it.

[Elad Eliyahu]

They might.

[Ian Crossland]

You might even be real people. They might not.

[Davey Jackson]

Some of them were real people.

[Phil]

But to your point about, like, oh, I'm gonna unfollow you and stuff. Like, that's the extent of it. It's like, all right, so people are gonna, you know, leave nasty comments on your ex. Account. That's not the same thing as, like, we're going to your house. You know what I mean? And that's the stuff that the left does. The left shows up at your house. They'll. They'll protest. You know, he was a comic. They would protest your show.

[Davey Jackson]

Oh, it happened to me in New York, dude. I really canceled all my shows in New York because I made a joke about Muhammad. Peace be upon him, obviously, but forever.

[Guest or Contributor]

Piss people on him. Yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

Okay. Whoa. Hey, look, I'm Olive. Olive. Snack bar, guys. Aloha snack.

[Ian Crossland]

Whatever it is, you know, it sort of indicates, like, maybe those are the bad guys, the people that turn on each other. And. And you would see, like, if you could step back from the whole game of humanity and be like, okay, I think that's the bad. Those are the evil people. No, but that everybody's evil. Or bad.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Bad.

[Ian Crossland]

But, like, the people that will turn on each other because they're not. Not in lockstep, are pretty much the Decepticons.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Like.

[Davey Jackson]

Ah, good point.

[Kangmin Lee]

You see, Ian, they call themselves the good guys.

[Phil]

Yeah.

[Kangmin Lee]

So they can never be the bad guys. They call us the bad guys. So we are always the bad guys. So no matter what they do, they're the good guys, and they are never evil, and we are always evil no matter what we do.

[Davey Jackson]

Dude, get a black wife already. My God, bro.

[Ian Crossland]

He has to, like, disassociate, associate from good and evil and bad and good. And, like, Stop playing that game. Because if you play that game, there's always going to be a bad guy.

[Phil]

Yeah, there. I think that I. I disagree with you because I think there always is going to be a bad guy. Because, I mean, look, I'm. I'm not a Christian, but there. I believe there's. There's something in the Bible that says that. That good and evil runs straight through the. The heart of man. Right? Like men can be. Like human beings are imperfect. And if you give in to your more base instincts and. And, you know, your sinful instincts, you can become evil, and even a good person can do evil.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, you can stop preaching at me about the pegging thing, dude. All right, I get it.

[Phil]

All right? Ethereum 275 says LOD. The whole martyr thing with Lemon, I think, was a complete setup just so he could pull that card following his firing from whatever news network, along with the virtual fail of his show, podcast, martyrdom is his new meal ticket rise to relevance.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And the administration played right into it if that is the case. So it be could kind of sucks. But, you know, it's still a bitch to have the DOJ rifling through your shit. And I wouldn't wish it upon any of my buddies, so they still have to get a lawyer, and there'll still be legal fees that are associated with him. But again, we wouldn't be talking about him, and nobody in the news would be talking about him otherwise, if he didn't get charged. I'll be honest.

[Ian Crossland]

I hope we never talk about him again. I'm not. I mean, I don't hate the guy, have him on the show, but I don't want to glaze this guy and make him famous if we don't have to.

[Elad Eliyahu]

We should bring him on the show. I'm sure he declined. I'm sure we've invited him.

[Guest or Contributor]

He'd ask us a fee, and then when we didn't pay the ridiculous, exorbitant fee, he'd say, oh, well, they didn't want to play ball.

[Elad Eliyahu]

All right, screw it. We'll invite his husband.

[Davey Jackson]

Hey, there we go.

[I]

Kimberly.

[Phil]

Kimberly says my husband Aaron and I are celebrating 11 years married today. Congratulations. Years ago, I became incredibly liberal and liberal, and it almost ruined our marriage. Thankful for my husband, who led me out of it. The liberal woman circle is a cult. True.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I'm glad you made it out with your breast.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah.

[Phil]

Not only that, but I'm.

[Davey Jackson]

I'm glad you survived.

[Phil]

I'm glad you made it out with your. Your marriage intact. Because if if it wasn't for the fact that you have a good husband, he might have decided to boot you or. Or not tolerate it or whatever. But good on you for changing your mind and good on your husband for working through that.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Politics, ending marriages, Insane. I don't even know what the to.

[Davey Jackson]

Say that that is so crazy because I was literally thinking that as he was. Because the liberal women's circle would have wanted her to leave her husband because he is a fascist, obviously. Y right. And that that is so toxic and poisonous. But I see it constantly. Dude, threads is a hell. It is a hell.

[Phil]

And it's not just threads, but like blue sky is. Is just.

[Davey Jackson]

I have not even been on it is.

[Phil]

It is a threads.

[Kangmin Lee]

Is the worst. Came after me on threads and I kid you not, he just had all of his little bot followers.

[Phil]

Oh my gosh, he owns you. Oh my gosh, look at him owning you.

[Kangmin Lee]

And I was like, oh my gosh. And then on X, right, He gets completely destroyed in his replies and then I ratio him. And on X. So it's like once you allow conservatives to speak. Yeah, like it's fair. It's like fair game. We're going at each other. But the threads, like they continuously throttle conservatives and then it's just all these.

[Davey Jackson]

Well, that's shifting though. I think that was like an early thing and now it's starting to shift a little. But it's still a dystopian hellscape. Oh, it's all on threads.

[Elad Eliyahu]

I think also in some relationships, people replace familial like their families with politics and the people involved in politics and it's just not a match to be replaced with. Also, I think as people get older and if they are divorced then they'll encourage other people in happy. They'll become more political first once you get divorced because you have nothing else to do with your life. And then you'll kind of like encourage the people in your sexes to divorce the other one for political reasons.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah.

[Elad Eliyahu]

And it's just all very sad and unfortunate. Stay married to your significant others as much. As much as you can.

[I]

Of course.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Course.

[Kangmin Lee]

These online communities, that's why they're so dangerous. Especially the left wing ones that radicalize you because like you said, they replace your natural affections and bonds with your family and your immediate community with online ones with strangers most of the times whose names and faces you don't even know.

[Davey Jackson]

It's just digital cult.

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah.

[Davey Jackson]

That's all it is.

[Phil]

That's crazy. M sub 15 says worry Taiwanese American here Many people aren't voting midterms because Epstein are discontent. CCP is only afraid of Trump, Trump and his, his team. Trump losing the midterms means a win for the CCP and a loss for Christians. I look, I agree and I think that it's super important to vote. People love to say, oh, this isn't the most important election in your life. They always say it's the most important election in your life. It always is. The reason it always is is because we live in linear time. The previous elections you can't go and do anything about and the, the elections in the future you can't do anything about. The only thing you can do is vote in the, in the election right now. So yes, it is the most important election ever because it' you can vote in right now. It's the one you can actually affect.

[Elad Eliyahu]

So I think we just had a Republican from Florida in Congress resign. So now there's truly a one seat majority depending on how you count Massie. The Republicans are in deep shit and they're going to lose the midterms inevitably. Not only because the Republicans are demoralized right now, but because that is the trend following one party winning the presidential, the other party usually comes back in the midterms. We will see endless investigations and impeachments once Republicans lose the majority. So we're in for a very annoying lame duck second half of the Trump presidency.

[Phil]

Founding father 1776 says, I'm 30 and my fifth baby Luca arrived at 7:15. Amen.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Awesome. I'm 32.

[Davey Jackson]

That guy couldn't pull out of a wet paper bag.

[Phil]

And.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Women do that many anymore.

[Phil]

And on that note, smash the like and share the show with all your friends. Go to rumble.com become a member and go on, go on over to timcast.com and join the Discord King. Do you have anything you want to shout out?

[Kangmin Lee]

Yeah. God bless you all. Thank you all for tuning in. Remember that Jesus Christ is king and Lord overall and he loves you very much. My name is Kongmin Lee. I talk about politics, culture, theology, all those things on my socials. You can find me at Kongmin J Lee. K A N G M I N J L E E I couldn't do spelling there. Spent too much time in Korea. Just catch me there. Gonna come out with more YouTube content soon. And I stream every Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 11:00pm Eastern.

[Phil]

Nice.

[Davey Jackson]

Yeah, Davey Jackson, come to a standup comedy show. But more importantly, go check out my YouTube. I did a documentary about Dearborn, Michigan. Just dude, like go to my channel and search Dearborn Undercover.

[Phil]

It's.

[Davey Jackson]

It's really, really cool.

[Ian Crossland]

Follow me at Ian Crossland, YouTube, Instagram and X. Go to Graphene Movie. Check out the new documentary that I've been producing. It's going to be great. The trailer's out now. You can sign up for the mailing list and get that. Remember too, now is the most important moment you will ever have. And that is always the case tomorrow. It's still right now. So take advantage of this moment.

[Elad Eliyahu]

Good evening everybody. I hope you enjoyed the episode. I am a lot. Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at the Tim Cast Shabbat shalom to everybody who observes. Me and Serge are about to go get Shabbat dinner at a Waffle House. Baby. Let's go.

[Phil]

And I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can check us out at all that remains online.com we're going on tour starting in April on the 29th in Albany. We're going out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. You can check out the music at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. You can check out out clips from Tim Cast all weekend long and we will be back here on Monday.

[Kangmin Lee]

Sa. You.

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