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Spain is being invaded. Rumors have it that there are not rumors, but reports are that Morocco has allowed thousands of people and when I say thousands, I mean like 12,000 an hour. So like up to 80,000 people, mostly young men, military age men, have invaded Spain. Basically. The town of Ceuta is, is receiving so many people that the Spanish government has decided that they're going to activate the military. Now, I'm not sure exactly when they're going to activate the military, but that is the rumor going on. The Saudi war is the Saudis have decided that they're going to do some strikes against the Houthis because the Houthis are shooting missiles at the or drones at the ships that are going through the Red Sea. The WNBA is still reeling from the what's her name? Sophie Cunningham. She's talking about trans women and how trans women shouldn't be allowed in women's sports. So we're going to talk about that. And there's a, there was a school shooting. Was this, I think this was in 2024 in the Appalachia High School. Shooter's father has been sentenced because the kid got a hold of his father's gun and went to school and shot a bunch of people. So before we get into any of that, I want you to head on over to timcast.com right. Join our Discord, become a member there. All right, I want you to head on over to rumble.com and join rumble. So that way you can watch the after show. If you join the Discord, you can call into the after show, talk to our guests, talk to us, ask us a bunch of questions. There's a bunch of people. There's like 20,000, 30,000 people in the Discord. You can go ahead and see. There's a bunch of different rooms in there. There are people that have got groups. You can play Dungeons and Dragons. There's all kinds of activities going on. The people have even gotten married and had kids because of the Tim cast Discord. So if you support the work that we do here, head on over to Timcast.com and become a member there. So smash the like button, share the show with everybody you know. Joining us tonight to talk about these topics and a bunch of other stuff is Daniel Turner.
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Great to be with you. DANIEL turner, Power of the future, energy, climate, all those fun things. And your favorite Virginia sheep farmer. And it's great to be back here.
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Thank you very much. Olivia's here today.
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Yeah. Hi guys. My name is Olivia and I'm the community manager here. I manage the Discord for Tim cast.
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If you were a member of the Discord, you would know that Tate Brown is holding it down.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm here. I'm excited. The Saudis going after the I. Are they going to go after the blowfish next? Guys, we're getting the show rolling, so here.
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Daniel, thanks for coming. It's always a pleasure. Let's get into the news.
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Phil from NBC News. Spain deploys military to Ceuta after thousands of people breach Morocco's border and at least nine die the head of the Ceuta regional government called for Madrid to declare a national emergency warning that migrant reception centers were overwhelmed. See what the Spain will deploy its military to restore order at its border with Morocco and Ceuta after thousands of migrants streamed into the tiny Spanish territory, with at least nine dying in the attempt. The announcement comes after local authorities and CEO to have asked the central government in Madrid for reinforcements to manage a border crisis that had been building up before boiling over on Thursday with large crowds of people breaching the border fence. Spain's government said Thursday that it would send the armed forces to help the Civil Guard to maintain security in the city of Ceuta. It also announced that Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez will join Interior Minister Fernando Grande Marloska and visit Siuta Friday. The situation is absolute chaos and if you've been looking at exit all today, that's all my feed is. It's just, just, just hordes of dudes coming into say with Spain. The situation is absolute. Ch Rashid Sibi said ahead of the association that represents Spain's Civil guard officers in CEO, who police the border told the Associated Press. It's not possible to give precise numbers, but there are thousands of migrants crossing, he said, adding that the border had totally collapsed. We talk about border, the border here in the U. S a lot. Right. And we talk about the Biden administration and how they essentially had an open border, how they even fought with the Texas government. Sent Tim's played the video of, of a forklifter of basically an articulating tractor with forks on the front, just l Lifting the fence, lifting the, the razor wire so that way the people that were crossing the Rio Grande could just wade on over and come on in. This puts that, that, that makes it look like a trickle. The, the videos that I've seen are just, it's, it's, it's hard to imagine that any kind, any country, any government would say this is acceptable to allow this many young men into our country.
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Yeah.
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And there's, I haven't seen a chicken or a child in any. And like you said, my feet have X since maybe noon or 2 o' clock this afternoon has been nothing but videos of this posted from multiple sources. I have yet to see an image of an old person, a female person, a child. Every single person seems, because they're not there seems to be 18 to 26.
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Likewise military age men is the key term they keep using and it's pretty suiting for what I'm seeing as well.
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I mean that, that can't be, that cannot be good for, for your society. Now I don't, I don't know how long this is actually going to go on. They like, they said they, that there's security going there but it doesn't sound like the security is going there to stop them. It sounds like secure. The security forces are going there to manage them when they come in, when they're in.
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Yeah.
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And if that's the case, because Spain is a part of the eu, they can, you know, filter through into, into the, any, any of the other countries in the eu. I mean everybody talks about how Europe's got such a great, great train system and, and you can just jump on the train and head to Berlin or head to wherever. And this at a time when Europe is struggling with migrants. Right. Like they have taken in so many migrants from the Middle east and they again, they tend not to be families, they tend not to be, you know, kids and, and women seeking refuge. They tend to be young men. And a society that has too many idle young men has problems historically that is, that is, that is a guarantee.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean there's a lot of context here of why this happened. Like this didn't just spontaneously occur. For one, there was a build up at the border for I think a few weeks now is what the reporting is saying. A couple hundred, or not a hundred thousand, but a couple thousand people had gathered at the border with, with Cedar. It's worth noting that Ceuta is across the Strait of Gibraltar from Spain. So it's on the Moroccan side. It's like a little enclave basically. Spain has like three of these, but Cedar's only one. That's like properly like a city and whatnot. And one piece of context is Moroccans in some ways view Cedar in the same way that the Argentinians view the Falklands as like, this is like rightfully our territory, it's lost. So for a lot of these people, you know, there's a political motive just to keep flushing this out. The King of Morocco, Phil do you want to take a guess at what the King of Morocco's name is, Pedro? It's Mohammed.
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Oh, Muhammad.
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King Muhammad vi. They have this thing called Throne Day in Morocco, and it actually, I think it was yesterday. And per tradition on Throne Day is the king will issue royal pardons to a lot of people. So there was about 2,000 pardons that took place over the last two days. So the timing's a little interesting there. Granted, we saw a surge of. I saw some estimates as high as 60 to 70,000 people surge across, likely around 20,000, which for a city like Cedar is still insane. But that's the Moroccan context. But that's what a lot of people are maybe speculating happened. I think what's more scandalous here is that this is what Spain. What led up to this, you know, the context in Spain that led up to this raid happening is the Supreme Court in Spain last week issued a ruling that prevents summary returns of sea crossings. Right. So if they intercept a boat that is attempting to land in Spain previously, they could turn them away, just deport them, send them back home on their way. Now they have to take the boat, take them in, process them, process their asylum claims, because that's their right or whatever. But all that actually did was just ensure that if you arrive to Spain by sea, you can stay pretty much however long you want. Pedro Sanchez, the PM of Spain, super socialist dude, obviously, it goes without saying, has been very lenient on immigration. And people noted that fairly recently he passed a effectively to an American would be an amnesty package allowing a million temporary workers, undocumented, illegal workers, the right to stay in Spain and pursue citizenship. And the last few days they've been flushing that out and they're like, oh, by the way, this is going to include family reunification. So that means 3 to 4 million third worlders are now not just squatting in Spain, but you can't call them squatters anymore. They have the right to be there now, by law, will become Spanish citizens in due time, granting them access, as we noted, to the rest of the European Union. This has trickled on effects not just for Europe, but for us, because we have, you know, hundreds of agreements with virtually every member of the EU that allows them to travel to the United States with a measly esta, which is, you know, that makes a lot of sense. We trust Europe, we trust their people. Europeans, broadly are good people. But now when you throw in all these foreigners into the mix, you know, DHS has to start thinking like, well, if there's 3 million people, we have no idea who they are, that are now have paperwork in Spain. How can we ensure that when a Spaniard comes to visit Disney World, that they're just here to visit Disney World? So that's kind of all the context surrounding this. This isn't just a spontaneous raid. It'd be one thing if it was a couple hundred people, but this is clearly some level of coordination. Some people point at the Moroccans. And while there is some circumstances there that are interesting, what's likely the catalyst for this is, again, the Spanish government's shambolic policy over the last few months.
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Yeah. So there's two things that you mentioned that I wanted to bring up, and one might be a little bit esoteric or whatever. Do you think that this kind of influx of people from Morocco who are largely Muslim, do you think that. That the. The desire to get into Spain has anything to do with the fact that Spain, or a good portion of Spain used to be Muslim for a time?
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No, I don't. I mean, this is a common narrative. And, like, I think that actually it's almost gives us like, this kind of romantic sense of, like, oh, this is like a civilizational battle and whatnot. And, like, while Islam, it's hard to find another ideology that is less cohesive with Western civilization, I don't think. I think these people, their IQs are too low to actually comprehend the world in that manner. I think quite literally what this is, is they want access to white people because white people make nice countries and Spain is wealthy and they don't have jobs. And Morocco, it's a decent place to live, but not a great place to live. And Spain's right there. So they're like, I just want to go to Spain. So while a lot of us in the media like to frame it as this kind of romantic, you know, Christian versus Islam, you know, the reconquista. And there's all these powerful narratives, and while I'm sure for maybe the sharper one and. Or some of the leadership and their communities and whatnot, they do view it in these terms. The average kid crossing the border probably doesn't even know what the reconquista was. I mean, he has a vague idea of it, but what he's actually more interested in is just having access to Spain's economy, having access to Spanish, you know, social programs. And for them, it's primarily just about access to white people.
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So I don't.
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I don't think that, like, I wouldn't challenge any of any of the ideas, but it does make for at least the way that it sounds. It would make for a compelling narrative. You can get to Spain and they have all this. This, you know, they're wealthy country, you know, you'll be able to get social services. You'll be able to do this. It's, it's a, you know, a nicer place to live than, you know, where you are now. And it used to be ours.
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So.
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Right. You have the right to go there, you see, because it makes, it makes for a. Again, you mentioned the fact that, you know, maybe they're not the sharpest guys out there, but at the same time, if they're not all that sharp, they're easy to persuade. Look, this, this is, you know, this is yours, actually.
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And I think what's interesting there is that probably is part of, like, the broader narrative because, like, Mexicans have this narrative with the United States, California, like, oh, we didn't cross the border, the border crossed us. Like, actually, no, these states were all like 95% American until like 50 years ago. It's like, no, you actually crossed the border. Although there were some people that are of Mexican extraction in the states, the vast majority of Mexican Americans, they can trace their lineage to the 20th century migration. That's neither here nor there. That is true, that. That is one narrative and that is something that they're aware of and they'll state. But the primary reason they came to the United States is because it's the United States. Same with these Moroccans. While I'm sure that might be a secondary thing, the primary reason they're coming here is because it's Europe and they live in Morocco. The further evidence for this is there were subs, people from sub Saharan Africa that were part of this raid. While some of them may be Muslims, a lot of them are Christians, at least nominally. And their motivations are probably the exact same as everybody else that was participating in the raid. When people come to Britain or France or Germany from sub Saharan Africa and they come from Christian families, their motivations are the same. While Islam does add a propensity to violence because of, like, religious reasons, again, the primary reason they're coming here isn't to, like, settle some historic blood feud score. The primary reason is because those are nice, wealthy white countries and we want access to them. So we're going in there and breach it. And irrespective of the religion, it's primarily just because their countries suck.
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Yeah, I've seen. Just a few minutes ago, I saw some videos on next. There are, there's Already some fires that are starting in Sieta and, and the kid, the young men are already being rambunctious.
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You know, surprising thing you could have said.
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Yeah, there's process crimes that I've always, I've always been fascinated by process crimes. We would go back, it was summertime, right? And so you go back to summer here just a couple years ago and we would see these caravans mobilize in Panama, right? And they would say There are now 15,000 people and they are marching to the Texas border. And we would see this and you always wonder like, well, this is a process, right? Someone's feeding them, someone's organizing that. You know, when we have these crazy teen tain over teen takeovers which are bad, it's 100 kids who are all on instant messenger saying like, hey, we're all going to meet at this place at 8 o'. Clock. It's easy to organize when you have 15,000 people in Central America. Harder to organize when you have 80,000 people in Morocco, rock and border who all knew to be there at the exact same time. Harder to organize. And I'm always fascinated by the processes. When you said that there's a probably without, you know, the low IQ guys, they're not doing this for historical reasons. They just know to be here at this time and we're going to get in. How do they know that?
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Right?
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Like how does a 22 year old kid in Morocco who probably is illiterate know, hey, I gotta be at this location on this day, at this time because they will get me into Spain. Those are the forces that are at work that whether it's on, on, on our border, on their border, in those process crimes, it's the same thing. When, when I think of, you know, again, I'll say the word process crime one more time because you guys love it. When I think of the, the Biden doj, when they were like, hey, we're going to put all the people who go to Latin Mass on a terror list.
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Yeah.
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Like people sat around a table like this and they were like, all right, so Phil, you're in charge of this church in Arlington. And okay, Phil's writing it down like
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that was a process.
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And I always wondered like who, who orchestrated that, that first meeting? Like, hey everybody, we're going to meet at 8 o' clock on Thursday to talk about Latin Mass. Who organized this first, first meeting of the caravans to say, hey Everybody, Tuesday at 8 we're going to start the, the next caravan or the Morocco, you know, invasion and so processes always fascinate me because there are evil forces behind it. Yeah.
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And that's where I do think there. There probably is an ideological component to the organizers of this, because to your point, and there's no way that these kids have the capability of even figuring this out. Same the United States, these people, like, cannot hold a job down at Burger King, but they have the ability to scam the government at an exceptionally high level. It's like someone's teaching them this. Like, they're not just like figuring this out on their own doing them.
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They're filling out the paperwork for them.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's kind of the same thing here. It's like, and to be. And so then the people that are organizing this, whoever they may be, the shadowy cabal, so to speak, they probably have a better understanding of, like, the civilizational tension. And it doesn't help that, like, virtually every institution in Europe that would have ordinarily been a check on this sort of thing, that would have been a source of national pride, promotes this. Like, in Spain, historically speaking, the Catholic Church was this sort of national. There was this national sentiment, this romantization, but it was also this very uniting institution in Spain. Like, you can't really talk about the story of Spain without talking about the Catholic Church. Well, what's the Pope up to? You know, Bob Prevost? Well, he's heading on July 4th. He's an American by all accounts. And on July 4th, he heads down to Lampaduesa, which is like the beachhead for all migrants coming into Europe. And he like, you know, does this, like, lecture about how cruel, you know, Europe and America is being to migrants and how these parties who literally just say, I don't know, maybe Germany has the right to exist or maybe France has the right to exist, how they're like, evil and completely out of lockstep with, you know, Christ like, values and these sorts of things. So it's like when this institution that historically was literally, like I said, you can't really separate Spain from the Catholic Church all of a sudden converted into this, like, boomer ngo. Yeah. Like, there's no checks on this whatsoever, where are the Spaniards going to look for any sort of protection, any sort of counterweight to what their government's up to, because every institution that historically safeguarded and shepherded the Spanish people, not just the Catholic Church, but various other institutions are promoting this. So it's like, where are they supposed to go? Vox, you know, the insurgent right wing party in Spain, they can't crack 20% in the polls. So it's like, you know, I really feel, you know, I hate when American commentators just dunk on Europe because I'm like, first of all, they have all the same problems. We have slightly different procedure, but all the same problems. Secondarily, there's very based right wingers all over Spain. They're just disenfranchised. And as time goes on, furthermore, because of migration. So whenever you're attacking Spain, Spain does have some sociological quirks that we discussed before show. But when you're attacking Britain or Canada or Australia, keep in mind a lot of this is being thrust upon the people by the exact same institutions, figures, ideology, et cetera, that thrust Biden on us, that Obama sort of set in motion. It's all interconnected, it's all interlinked. It's just America has a lot more procedural safeguards that have given us more breathing room. Right. Like we have more time to act, more time to correct the ship. They don't have that in Spain. They don't have that in Canada. They don't have that in Australia.
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I do think the interesting thing you talked about, the process, the process is designed to ruin these western countries. So whoever's organizing these things, it's to overpower us. So we can't even think about the process and the crime that was committed there because we're too busy thinking about the problem at our border right now. We're too busy trying to manage the, you know, whatever thousands of people that went up into Spain today, they have to manage that before they can even think about, okay, who organized this.
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Yeah.
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Because the more pressing matter is who these people are. Are they violent? Are they going to harm the Spaniards? Which likely, it sounds like they're already starting fires and causing at least, at the very least, property crime. But we know, based on history that illegal immigrants tend to commit higher crimes, especially violent crimes, certainly in Europe. Yes. And we know that. I mean, you were just over in Northern Ireland right after that whole incident over there.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, this, this is what's like the craziest part. And you know, here I go. Make the most obvious point. Never is like the left's kind of hypocritical, aren't they? It's like, whoa, like shocking, like truth nuke. But what's so remarkable about specifically Britain? Because this is what I'm familiar with because all their correspondence is in English, so I understand it is rate, you can say grapes have gone up like 500% in the United Kingdom over the last, you Know, two decades and the British government, the level of gaslighting, where they're like this new generation of British youth out of nowhere, have just decided to start graping everyone. They've started. It's like ditty parties left and right. That's like the official narrative from the British government when it's like, okay, what's more likely, like, a bunch of young English boys, like, watched one Andrew Tate reel and then they all turned into like, these like, you know, psycho Diddy party people, or the people that came from incest land 20 years ago are sort of behaving how you would expect them to behave. What's more likely there? What do you think is contributing to this rise?
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And it's the same thing here, where they're like, why are more young girls getting killed? And why are the. Why is it now not safe to go and run as a young woman in a college town? Well, it's not because the men that were born and raised here have gotten any worse. They haven't. I know the feminists love to say that. Oh, it's always the men. It's the men. They're the same ones that say it's. What is it called? Like, I don't even know if I can say that on YouTube. But empathy, right? Having too much empathy to the suicidal empathy. You say that on here. Okay, I don't know what the rules are. Yeah, Having suicidal empathy to the point where now they are literally killing young white women primarily. And they're like, but. But where they came from, like, feel bad. I don't feel bad because that's my own self preservation. That's like, no, I don't feel bad about that. And that's what I think Europeans should be doing. More of them should be doing. But you're right, they're all hypocrites.
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Well, the most vocal people that are, are the ones that are, you know, discussing this stuff, at least in public. They're the ones that are the most, you know, as most outwardly empathetic. Most of the women that I talk to, they're like, hell, no.
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Yeah.
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You know, they're like, I don't want to deal with this. I don't want to feel like I. I'm worried about, you know, my safety or what have you. But the people that are become activists and make a stink and, and are the ones that. That are out protesting and making a bunch of noise. Those are. Those are the ones that are the, you know, the. The people that with most suicidal empathy for. For lack of A better term.
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I mean, I saw it in college, you know.
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You know, whether it be the women in my life, right. They're like, hell, no.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's.
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It's going to be interesting what happens with this invasion. If it's just phase one. If it intensifies, it probably will intensify because at least the UK has the luxury of being an island. So there's a little bit of a border. But, I mean, in 2000, when the EU was finally formed and it was a big deal on that January 1, 2020, January 1, 2000, when the borders were all shut down, and you cross borders in European nations now, and they don't even have the booths anymore, right? Like, you go from. From. From Italy into sp. France. Switzerland still has all of theirs. And Swiss never played games, but, you know, traveling throughout all of Europe, like, there is no border. Like, there's just a line. Like when you cross from. From West Virginia into Maryland, right? There's just, welcome to Maryland. So if you look at this now, and you are France. If you are Italy, right. Georgia Maloney, I think you have a tweet there that she's trying to push back to say, this is a huge problem. The Prime Minister of Italy, if it is, like, all right, we don't want this. Okay, you got the boot, right? So that's a start. Lampadosa, obviously, is a huge problem because they come in by boat, but you've got France, you've got. You've got Austria, you've got. You have huge borders that now don't even have the booths anymore to shut down your border.
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Yeah.
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If you're France, how do you shut down the border along Spain? It used to exist. You tore it down in European solidarity. It was great in 2000 because we thought we were all Europeans and we all want to get along and the communism is dead. We're all European brothers. And now it's like, holy crap, where the hell did our border go? You can't build it back.
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Yeah. The first time that I went to Europe was in 2005. I think was the 2004 was the very first time I went. And it was a surprise that, you know, we were. They were like, oh, we're going into. Into France tonight. You know, do I have to get up thinking the bus is going to get to the border? Like, not. It'll be fine. And, you know, do that all over. All over Europe. You just bounce from place to place. We were playing festivals, and we go from show to show to show. No, you Never have to get up the. Again, like you said, the only time you have to get up is if you're going to Switzerland. You have to get up and, you know, kind of show your face.
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Swiss are laughing. He who laughs last. Last. Swiss, right? The Swiss are laughing their asses off
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like, well, the UK is cooked because, like in this instance, because even if they had the willpower to shut down channel crossings, which we've seen reporting that Burnham's asleep at the wheel, go figure. If you've ever been to Ireland and Northern Ireland, it's the same thing. You don't even realize. You just cross into Northern Ireland. There's nothing. You could take the train. And they're like, oh, next stop you're in Northern Ireland. You're like, wait, what? So it's like Ireland's in the U. They're. They're in the Schengen Zone. So it's like even the United Kingdom, vulnerable. There's so there's just so many touch points where this is a security nightmare. Ireland has. And Dublin, they have a TSA preclearance insofar as ice, customs, border patrol, whatever you want to call it. CBP has an outpost in Dublin. So when you fly into Dublin and then you're connecting to the United States, you can pre clear in Dublin, which is awesome. Which is awesome. And you land at your domestic terminal in New York and you don't go to sit in the line at jfk, you just walk right off the plane starts to call into question that, like, who's staffing CBP in Dublin? Are they. Are they going to be dialed in like it's, you know, this is the unfortunate thing about living in this globalized world that we live in, which, which I think there's a lot of benefits of and I'm generally skeptical of, but I'm willing to admit travel's a lot easier now. It's fantastic. That's great, et cetera. Are we returning to this world now where you know it's gonna be very difficult to cross into these countries because again, you just can't. If you can't trust Spain, if Spain just completely falls apart, they completely melt down, security wise, then yeah, if you're Germany, if you're France, if you're the United States, the United Kingdom, all of a sudden you're saying, well, we can't let these Spaniards come here visa free. Or if you're in the Schengen, well,
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you can't trust Spain because we can't trust California because they gave 50,000 non speaking illegals commercial driver's licenses. Right. And they are killing people nationwide. And it's like so we can't trust California, let alone so. Exactly. So how can we possibly trust. You know, you funny. The Irish Northern Irish border. I was there last year. The only reason why I knew was not even the. The border is so bad ways on my phone detected that when we crossed, it went from miles per hour to kilometers. Oh yeah, because the Brits still use miles per hour. So my phone knew that I was in Northern Ireland, but there wasn't a sign any.
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Oh, I know, crazy.
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Welcome to.
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Yeah, it's insane.
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Just there was just something that maybe remember. But you mentioned you can't possibly trust and possibly trust.
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It's so alarming. And you know, I've had Ann Coulter on my show a few times and she had my favorite quote. It's a very simple quote, but it's so true. Is like you get immigration under control, everything else corrects with. If you fix immigration, everything in your life gets easier. I was on the show today and I was talking about all these like we talk about the macro, right? Like, oh, they're coming like slime me out or something like a migrant. But when you think about the little ways that like life is just slowly getting worse because people that have a completely different understanding of the world are here. A very obvious one that I didn't even. Didn't even click with me. Have you noticed on the roads recently you're seeing a lot more student driver stickers?
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Yes.
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Yep.
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But I know what that is.
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The reason why that's happening not all the time. It is true that people are getting their licenses later in life, so that's part of it. But if you see that and you pull up next to him on a stoplight, take a look, it's gonna most likely be an Indian person in their middle ages. And the reason that is happening is because. And shout out to San Pelly enjoyer on Twitter. Alex is his handle. He was talking about. This is a lot of people from India who scam a lot. You know, it's their thing, whatever. That's just reason to have immigration restriction. They have realized that if you set up at your home a Dr. Driving school, you can now log all those miles that you've logged in your car and write that all off. At the end when you're filing your taxes, you know, you go to Harris teacher to get your groceries. That was a student. I did a student driving course for someone. So you can write that all off and then now because you have the student driver sticker on your car, if the cops ever pull you over and they're like, well, you know, what's your deal? And you give them registration and you're registered as a student driving course or whatever, you just say, well, we're not on, I'm not doing one right now. But I still got the sticker on the back. It's like little stuff like that. Just now we can't trust student drivers because it used to be you see someone at the student driver sticker and you're like, oh, this poor guy. We've all been there. Give them a little grace. They're nervous, they're anxious or whatever. It's like, you know, we've all been there. But now I see them, I'm like, this guy's probably just scamming, like he's probably scamming the government. The same thing is another one. When you're traveling in the airport, once again, it's Indians. Go figure. If you notice that there's far more people boarding, you know, at the beginning, before all the, you know, sky alliance, military, whatever, they let the disabled people board.
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You were on my group thread. We were talking about this earlier today. You were on my group thread.
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Maybe because I know what you're going to say.
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That's the ball, you know, where I'm
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going is, you know, the disabled board first. All of us can agree that's great. One of my favorite things about the United States is that we're quite accommodating to the disabled. And I think it's actually a beautiful thing. Call me a lib charter or whatever. It's like they have a rough go at life. The airport's horrible. So cut them a little slack, Let them board first, help them with their bags. It's great. This is what makes Americans awesome, is we're very conscientious people. If you go to the airport now and you see all the wheelchairs lining up and they have their minions that push them around the airport, it's all middle aged Indian people. And maybe this doesn't happen like the Birmingham airport, but if you go to like a hub, you go to dfw, you go to jfk, you go to o', Hare, it's going to be middle aged Indian people. And why is that? Because they've realized that you can't, you don't have to prove you're disabled. They just understand that if they like call themselves disabled, they get to board the plane first, they get guaranteed overhead storage, and they get Someone to push them around the airport. It's like little stuff like that where, like, now we can't trust the, you know, people, like, using the disabled thing. And it's. First of all, it hurts the people that are actually disabled. And secondarily, it's just eroded another institution. A third example, before I give the floor back to everyone, John Doyle pointed this out. The great John Doyle from Blaze. You gotta go check out his show. He was talking about, you can't trust Amber Alerts anymore because of migrants. Because Amber Alerts. Now, it used to be you got an Amber Alert, your head's on a swivel. You're like, I'm gonna be Batman here and stop this crime. I'm gonna call the police. I'm gonna save this kid. Well, now you're getting like, five Amber Alerts a day, especially if you're in Texas. Why is that? It's immigrants having custody disputes. Nine times out of ten, it's like you picked your kid up at the wrong time. They call the police, say there's a missing kid. Cause they know that the Amber Alert's instant. You know, most missing persons cases, famously from the movies, it takes like 48 hours. Amber alert, like, kid's missing, fire it up, get it beamed up. And nine times out of 10, it's like Guatemalans having custody disputes. So it's like all of these great institutions that we have that make a lot of sense when it's like, us, like Americans, you know, of whatever color. That's not the point. Like, Americans, people that understand how America works. Now, you can't utilize any of these institutions because of, like, foreigners and their kids that are, like, literally just never going to assimilate. And it's broken. These institutions that are, on the grand scheme of things, inconsequential. But, like, you know, how many grains of sands make a heap?
A
Well, they're not inconsequential because it's. It matters. I mean, it's going to matter to people that when you combine them all. Well, it matters to, like, look, if your kid goes up, turns up missing, and you're like, oh, call. You call the police, and they turn on the Amber Alert. And people are just like, meh. You know, Whereas, you know, 20 years ago, it might have been like, oh, I'm gonna keep my eyes out. And that might have actually meant something. Taylor Hansen put up a tweet today. He. He had a. Made a video. He basically traveled from India to Canada, and he was trying to show how easy it is for Indians to come to Canada. And that is a direct effect on the United States because, because of our border with Canada, like, it's really easy. I was just be like, hey, I'm just gonna go to, you know, I want to go to Niagara Falls for the day. And once you're in, you know, it's not like you got some kind of like, air tag on you, you know, so the, the real solution to immigration problems. And I think that obviously Spain, this, this applies to Spain and all of Europe as well. But it's really, it's not about border security as much as it, as it is about, you know, policy. Right? Like, if you have a policy of, of giving amnesty to people that's going to attract people, you have a policy of saying, well, you come here from another country and, and you need some kind of social safety net will give it to you whether or not you're a citizen. That's a policy. All these things are, are these policies that governments have decided that they're going to institute. That's what's making, that's what's really driving the immigration problem. If, if people from, you know, from, from the Middle east or from wherever and it doesn't matter knew that if they got to a country, they weren't going to be able to get anything. They weren't going to be able to get any social service, social services. They weren't going to be able to get any kind of. They weren't going to be able to get a job. They weren't going to be able to rent an apartment. This is something that I've harped on a little bit. You shouldn't, you shouldn't be allowed to rent to people unless they're, they're actually, you know, citizens. You, you shouldn't be able to get a bank account in the United States if, unless, like maybe if you're outside of the United States and you want to put your money here, fine. But you can't come here and say, I live here and, and get a bank account unless you have some kind of proof that you actually are a citizen. Same thing with, with getting a job. We should, we should make sure that people that hire illegals are punished to the fullest extent of the law. Those kind of things are what's really going to make a serious change in behavior of people, that of people trying to come to the United States illegally or trying to come to take advantage of the system. I know that there's a lot of people that talk about the, the issues that were going on in In Minneapolis with the Somalians, you know, the, the leering centers and what. And yeah, that's bad. But those kind of things, like, if the government actually does enforce the law, those things get wrapped up. And to be honest with you, the people will probably get deported or maybe they'll get, you know, maybe get spent time in prison. But that kind of thing, like, that's not going to stop people from coming here. You have to make sure that they can't, you know, they can't just take part in society the way that citizens can.
D
Yeah, yeah, look, I mean, you just go to Tall versus Channel and it's like, think of an ethnic group. They probably have an ethnic enclave in the United States that's like robbing money from the American people. So it's like, okay, it's like whack a mole. Okay, you knock the Somalis out of Minnesota, you still got like 50 other, you know, groups that have like scamming the money from the government or whatever. Secondarily to your point, I mean, Denmark has essentially fixed this. And you know, people, they think of Scandinavia, they're like, oh, they're so socialists. They have high taxes still. But they abandoned socialism as a, as a model like two decades ago. They were like, this is like not a good idea. Sweden infamously had one of the biggest brain drains in history. In the 90s, it was like borderline Great Depression level economy because their socialist reforms were so disastrous. So that's why Americans have this conception that Scandinavia is the socialist place. But in actuality, while they do have high taxes, it's broadly market, it's market driven. That's besides the point. Denmark, people think Denmark, they probably think it's some sort of socialist hellhole or whatever. Denmark has this very, albeit liberal, very pragmatic government who just simply figured out, I don't know how they figured this out, that the people coming to the country were just hopping on welfare and like the Danish citizens were subsidizing their replacements effectively was what was going on in Denmark. And so what the Danish government did is they just implemented some very pragmatic, common sense policies. You know, you didn't need to bring in this like, you know, dictator to like fix it. It's like they literally were just like, I don't know, let's reduce migration. If you're like consuming welfare nonstop, we deport you. And if you're all clustering in one place, we go and bulldoze the apartment blocks. So then you guys have to spread out so your kids actually assimilate it's something like if 80% of a social housing project, like a project, like if 80% of a project is of a certain ethnic group, whether it be basically anyone that's not Danish, they go in and they just bulldoze the apartment complex because they've just realized, like, these are like common sense, pragmatic solutions. Like, again, that should. Denmark is almost a white pill insofar as they have a net outflow of migrants now of people of non European origins that came from like the Middle east and North Africa because their migration flows are not the same in the United States whatsoever. Denmark is the white pill, where it's like, actually, you know, you don't need to like, just bring in this, like, you know, hammer to like, totally break. It's like, if that's what you need to do, that's what you need to do. But Denmark keeps the, like, libtards happy with their, you know, social programs or whatever. But like, they actually address immigration in a very pragmatic manner. And it's like, that's the clear pill. That's what actually works. And because we live in liberal democracy and liberal democracy is so rigid, it's like impossible to break. At least as of now. That's like little stuff that can be done that actually solves a lot of problems. Switzerland infamously has a pretty good migration policy as well. They were about to actually pass a cap on the population at loss. But that kind of shows where the people's minds are at.
B
Remember, I testified before Congress on climate issues. Actually, this is last year. And whenever you testify before Congress, they always are just looking for Instagram hits, right? So one of the Democrats, I forget his name. He's young. He looks like Freddie Munster. The sun. Really big thick eyebrows. Immigrant, American, obviously. He's in Congress, but came from, I think, Peru, you know, X number of years ago. He's, he's, he's American, quote, unquote. But he's, he's, he's a foreigner. And he, his staff held up one of my tweets. It was, it was excoriating Social Security. It was right after my, my dad had died. I was livid at Social Security because when one parent dies, right, mom didn't get Dad's leftover Social Security. It was like, well, he's dead. And Mom's like, yeah, but I'm not. And it's like, well, there goes Social. I was angry at Social Security, which. That's another conversation. No more tangents. I wrote a tweet in a very angry, like, thread. And his staff took one of them and blew it up poster size. And I think I called it a Ponzi scheme. And I remember. And of course, he wasn't. He wouldn't let me respond. Like, it was just his five minutes, you know, et cetera, et cetera. And the whole time I was thinking, I was like, of course you like Social Security because you all just got here and you are benefiting of it. But if you've been here, my family's been here for 200 and some OD years. If you had been here before the damn system was even implemented, all you've done is pay into it. And then when you die tragically because of Dr. Fauci's vaccine, then all the money that you put in Social Security is stolen from your, from your, your grieving widow. And the whole time, like, the anger in my face and I remember thinking like, this is the difference between us. You're an American, you're a congressman, you've got the wing back chair and you're yelling and screaming, not an American. But like, but you have no idea what it's like on my side. Like, you love these programs because you have just taken from them. And so when you were saying common sense reforms of what Denmark is doing, that's a great example of a common sense reform. If you're not paying into the system, how do you possibly benefit from it?
A
You shouldn't be allowed to be serving Congress if you're not born in America.
B
100% presidency is not enough.
C
It's all actually any representative. I don't care if it's local. I don't care what level.
D
Well, it should just be what we have for the president, which is if you are naturally US Citizen at birth. Because, like, okay, you have a few people that are born outside the country to American parents. Like, that makes a bit of sense. Like, not that he's the greatest example of who we want in Congress, but like, Dan Crenshaw, for example, was born in Scotland, but his parents were just working in the oil. That's why he was born there.
C
Military families. That's very common.
D
Yeah. So it's like John McCain was born in Panama, of course, Ted Cruz one in Canada. But it's like as long as you infer US Citizen upon birth. Yeah, that's like, that seems like a. I mean, that's how you can't be president if you don't fall on it. So what? So why should you be able to Congress any different?
B
You mean like Pramila Jayapal, who was Born in India and raised in Indonesia and came to the United States like 14 years ago and sits there and just screams at us.
A
Zoran Momdani, born in Yanda and came here eight years ago.
B
Just the other day, talking about reparations and being again, like 10th generation New York City. Even though I'm a Virginia gentleman now, talking about our guilt in. In slavery, he's like, you know, as New Yorkers, we are all guilty. I was like, who the hell is this we?
D
First of all.
B
And as. As an Indian Ugandan, you're more of a slave owner than any of us were.
C
Tell them. Yeah, absolutely.
B
My great, great grandfather died with the New York Brigade trying to end slavery.
D
Why did your family leave Uganda again? Did you guys just pack up and leave? Why did you leave?
A
The audacity. The audacity to say that kind of stuff is one thing, but look, I mean, like, he does not represent, like, America at all.
D
No, no, but he represents the new New York City.
A
He makes it very clear.
D
Everyone's like, he didn't assimilate. I'm like, you've been to New York. He assimilated perfectly. That's kind of the problem.
C
It is New York.
D
A new batch of immigrants are assimilating. It's like the slop that's the problem. Actually, the problem is that Zoron is very well assimilated. Like, you can find him. He's a diamond dozen in Queens right now. Half of Queens is foreign born, by the way. This is what they call the ukification of the world, where what you see in London right now you see in New York City, you see in Toronto, you see in Melbourne, like in Auckland, like all over the Anglosphere, increasingly so continental Europe as well. Zoron is actually like, yes, clearly not an American in any meaningful way outside of his accent, but. Well, at least when he's speaking on camera. But for a New Yorker today, obviously not like a proper New Yorker, but like a, you know, a New Yorker. Paperwork, New Yorker, dime a dozen. They're everywhere. You watch that Subway Takes guy on Instagram.
E
I've seen it.
D
Yeah. It's like he's talking to, like, this could have been the mayor, like, every single time. You're like, okay, well, this guy's clearly. Actually, his constituency is him. Is the people that got here yesterday and are now lecturing Americans on reparations. First of all, New York City didn't even want to be in the country in the first place. In the revolution, they were a loyalist hotbed.
B
That's neither here Nor there they actually, or they voted president at the Continental Congress.
D
Yeah, they were one of the last people to get on board still on the fence about New York, let alone the civil war.
C
Right. Yeah.
D
So. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
All right. Well, we're going to jump to this story. Saudi Arabia is preparing for war with the Houthis, which I didn't know they weren't at war prior.
D
They've been at war.
E
I thought they were already.
A
Infamously, they've been, they've been, you know, shooting missiles and stuff at the Houthis for a long time anyways. From the Guardian. Saudi Arabia prepares sea and possible land offensive against Houthis Yemeni security Yemeni sources say Saudi concentrating, Saudis concentrating forces for what could be an attack in central Yemen. Saudi Arabia is preparing for a major military offensive against the Houthis by sea and possibly by land in central Yemen. Yemeni sources believe in a move to break the chokehold on its oil exports through the southern Red Sea, Saudi forces have been seen withdrawing from the east of Yemen in what could be preparation for a land offensive. At the same time, Riyadh is trying to reorganize a naval coalition to protect shipping from Houthi attacks in the Red Sea and the Ba Al Mand straight. The Saudi Defense Ministry said on Thursday that 14 states, including Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt, Sudan, Djibouti, had issued a joint statement supporting the multinational maritime defense coalition. The Iran Align Houthis who control Yemen's capital. Yemen's capital Sanaa and much of its Red Sea Coastline announced on 20 July that they were implementing a blockade against Saudi ships. But they have denied they are planning to impose tolls on all ships. This has been going on for a long, long time. You, you ask any libertarian, apparently there's some kind of side of, of, you know, of Yemeni in, you know, genocide in Yemen from, by the Saudis, actually by the United States because, you know, always the bad guy, it's by the United States but being carried out by the Saudis. It's not actually a war with the Houthi, you know, causing problems or whatever. But, but this, this stuff about the Red Sea, right, Like this could become a significant issue, right? If it's one thing to block the straight of Hormuz because it affects the Gulf and it affects the rest of the world because of oil and stuff. But it's only the Gulf. If you block the Red Sea, then all, all traffic has to go around the Horn of Africa and that makes a two week trip or I mean it makes a a two day trip into a 14 day trip or something like that.
B
Yeah. And, and this, the Iranians play the Strait of Hormuz because they pretend it's theirs, right? Because it's so. But, but they have no claim to the Red Sea whatsoever. These countries all really don't like each other very much. They're not friends, they're not friendly. It's just, it's, it's, this is going to escalate, I think tremendously. Mostly because their only asset is oil and gas. Right. These are not diverse economies, oil and gas. I mean, now we're in my wheelhouse, right? Oil and gas is huge in America, but it's 8% of our economy. Oil and gas in these countries is 90, 95. And when you start, start hurting 95. And especially countries like the Saudis where, you know, 4% of the population are royalty and then 95 of the population are imported. Talk about immigration. Imported Bangladeshi slaves, basically.
D
It's like Don Bacon's dream.
B
Who make, yeah, like a dollar a day, right. I mean, look at how many, how many died building the World cup in Oman. 30, 000 or something, right? Like expendable lives from Bangladesh and the Philippines. When these countries start losing their oil and gas revenue, it's not a revolution of the masses. It's a revolution of the 3% elite who keep the masses, you know, oppressed. If they run out of money, you know, you get 95% of the population being poor Bangladeshis, they're going to start to revolt.
A
Now, I'm not sure the impact this has had so far, but I, I'm of the understanding that a lot of the more forward thinking Middle Eastern countries, Saudi Arabia, uae, Oman, I think, but maybe I could be wrong, but they're looking to diversify their, their economies.
E
Yeah.
A
Can you speak to that at all?
B
They say they are, but, but I think that's just a little bit of lip service, right? They, they pushed a lot of that in, in the, the first Trump administration as we started to increase our oil and gas revenue and take a larger supply of, of or larger piece of the world's oil and gas piece of. But the green revolution has died. It was always going to. Wind and solar don't work. European Union is clamoring for more oil and gas. So they're going back to what they know works. Right. Oil and gas runs the world and it will for the foreseeable future. They talk about diversifying their economies, but I think that's a lot of lip service. These are also, these are Just bad countries. Well, with a lot of bad people in them. I was asked this, I did a radio show yesterday and this question actually was thrown at me like, how come they don't do their part to help world oil and gas supply? How come they don't produce more to lower prices for the world? Because they're doing really well at $90 a barrel in oil. Right. You don't build the world's largest indoor ski resort. Well, if we're going to build an island, let's make it look like the globe. Right. All those islands they build in the Gulf that are palm trees, that's just all oil and gas and slave labor. It's oil and gas money and slave labor. They want really expensive oil. So they actually don't even really like America very much much because our production has lowered prices. If they could get back to $140 a barrel oil, they would be flipping thrilled. These are bad people.
D
Bad people. I mean I want to ask you because this is obviously your domain is. I mean we saw as the conflict kicked off with Iran, obviously. And a side note, if they block up the Red Sea doesn't affect us too much because we saw it when they blocked up the bow or whatever the last time in 2023 to beginning of 2025, insurance shot through the roof. It was like impossible to insure a ship going through the strait. So they would go around the Horn of Africa. We didn't really feel the pinch as much like marginal. But Europe, that's where they felt the punch because Europe and Asia, that's how they ship everything is through the Red Sea.
B
Remember that, that, that boat that tried to make a U turn and got stuck that destroyed their economy.
D
2% inflation like 2 fiscal like for 2 fiscal quarters after that they had like 2, 3% extra inflation. So this would be again devastating for Europe up now. The bit more resilient after Covid. Anyway, I wanted to ask you is, you know, with the UAE leaving OPEC now obviously related to the. As I understand it, that's because they're pissed at like Sudan and all these like minnows that were dictating terms to opec. Is the UAE doing that so they can sell oil on sale and just generate income or are they just going to like try and form a new OPEC with the Gulf?
B
No, they just want to increase their supply. They can produce up to 6 million barrels a day, but OPEC only let them produce around three and a half. And enough of them will finally like how about us first? Like why, why are we only allowed to produce three and a half? And opec? Well, we don't want to increase production because we want to keep prices high. They're like, well, but if we sell, you know, one barrel at $100 or we sell two for 85, let's sell two for 85. Right. And so that the math is volume. And that's what makes America, I should say America writ large. Because the Canadians I would put in there and even Mexico, we sell our, our oil and gas, our profit comes on volume, not on, on price.
D
Right.
B
The Middle east, it comes on price. And so they, they are saying, like, let's increase volume and we'll be even more wealthy. And, and OPEC is just this evil bunch of fat, awful folks that live in Vienna.
E
True, yeah.
B
Why the hell have they get to dictate our terms?
D
Well, that's what's so fascinating, seeing the new crop of like OPEC cabal leaders, is they're all like educated in like Switzerland and stuff. It's fascinating.
B
And they put on their gear for the cameras.
A
Yeah.
B
And then they go to France and they're doing blow and they're banging hookers and getting, and stoned and it's like, oh, but a lot put on their garb.
D
It's like, oh, no, this a bed sheet on.
B
Very, very proper. Like we're, we're good. Like, these are bad flipping people.
D
Oh, yeah.
B
I said on the radio show yesterday, I was like, well, there goes my chance at getting an ambassadorship. Right. Like I, I, I despise these countries.
D
There goes our suit every five vacation.
B
Yeah, exactly. I, I excoriate Americans who go there and people like, oh, we're going to go to Dubai for five days. It's like if you said in 1992, like, we're going to go to Johannesburg, they'd be like, what about Mandela? Right, Right. These are like slave nations. Like, Dubai is so cool, man. A, you can't drink, so how cool could it possibly be?
D
And be like, don't you just go
A
to Bahrain for that?
B
Because Allah cannot see over the bridge. Right. I remember that when I was over there. Like, Allah cannot see over the bridge.
D
True.
B
It's just awful country.
C
Well.
D
And yeah, I went to Qatar again, the connection. And I was like, okay, I'll do the day where they like pay you to be there for a day. And so technically I've been paid by Qatar.
C
I think that's where the allegations came from. It's actually been you this whole time.
B
You have to register with Farah now. And I like that you pronounce it Qatar. Because there's always like that one drill. He's like, Qatar.
D
Like, relax, we're saying Deutschland now.
B
When they started saying Kyiv, it used to piss me off.
D
Come on. I say, I'm like, there, you know. Yeah. It's just ridiculous. But when I went there, that's what I noticed. I was like, first of all, where are the guitaris? I'm like hanging out with all the Bangladeshis. And I was. And they're like. They're like. Because they're just miserable. So they were just like, oh, someone that like talked to me. This is awesome. But yeah, that was like depressing. Secondarily. I'm just wondering because I'm like, if or when we mop up this straight of Hormu situation is energy's not gonna be on discount for a while because like the Emirates and the Qataris gonna be like, finally, like, we can finally get this crap off our docks.
B
I mean, it dropped before round two of. Or are we in round three or four of this skirmish? I don't know. But 67, three weeks ago, four weeks ago, it dropped to $67 a barrel.
D
Right.
B
Gas prices were starting to fall. Gas prices are going to take four or five weeks longer. But I mean, now it's back up to, you know, higher. But it will drop so damn fast because.
D
Exactly.
B
That we have such this gut glut that we have to just get to market so well.
C
Because.
D
And I noticed that like, you know, like Taiwan, it's something like their 90 of their energy is LNG. But now Qatar shut down. They don't want to pay the Aussie premium, so they're just like rerouting to get oil. I'm like, with all these buyers now, I mean, surely no OPEC extra buyers. It's going to be like a renaissance.
B
It should be and it should boom economies worldwide. And you asked where the Qataris. They're all in Knightsbridge in London. And talk about now, full circle of that and assimilation. I remember reading and actually went to see it when I was in London of one of the Qatari emirates or mirrors or whatever their title is, who owns a row house on in the street in Knightsbridge in London. But he brought like his 45 gold Porsches and Lamborghini cars. And he has his whole staff full time park them because he wants them all on the street. And the people who live on the street are like, hey, we like to park our cars here too. And he's like, I don't care. High trust society. You can't trust the wheelchair people anymore. High trust society is like, when I leave, like, there's an open spot and I can pull in that spot. And he's like, no, no, no.
D
My guys block and even trust the slimy oil.
B
I want to. So imagine being a London banker, then you're making £14 million a year, and you can't park on your street because the guy who's worth $40 billion.
D
Everyone's getting screwed.
B
Exactly. So talk about assimilation, right? I mean, full circle wherever you don't. Just fascinating how things line up.
D
Costco's bad. Wait till you try to park your Porsche. Kelsey, it's over for you. I mean, it's a game. That's just true, though. Like, everyone's getting screwed.
B
Everyone's getting screwed, dude.
D
Yeah, yeah.
A
What?
D
I was just like, I imagine you have a lot to add to this. I mean, regarding foreigners screwing over people. Our thing, that's like half our country.
A
I've never really been to the Middle east, so I don't know much about it. But I do wonder, like, the U. S. With the U. S. Actions in Venezuela, right? How much is that gonna. How long is that gonna have to take? An actual impact. Is it having an impact in the U.S. i know the U.S. is a net exporter now, right?
B
Yeah.
A
So. So how much can. Can the US do to, like, to Tate's point, how much can the US do to get LNG to Taiwan? How much can the US do to. To sell our oil and actually, you know, continue to profit off of the. The moves the Trump administration made? And how. How fast can the United States use the oil that we're producing to refill our strategic oil reserves? And I know Trump has depleted that because he's looking to keep gas prices down. Is that going to be something that can be. Can be actually properly remedied in the. In the near term? Is going to be a long term.
B
That was a great, great question on Venezuela. Last I saw, they went from like 1.9 million barrels a day to 2.1 in four or five months. In any other economy, that would be cataclysmic. But there's so much happening in oil and gas markets that it's kind of a blip on the radar, and that's unfortunate. There are five companies that are operating in Venezuela. They'll get that to 5 million barrels a day, but it's going to take a year and a half, two years. So it will have a huge impact, but it's going to take a little while. Strategic petroleum reserves. When I did Jesse Kelly's radio show the other day, we got asked this question and I said if I were a guy, if I were a person, girls too, if I were a dad especially, I would go to Home Depot and buy five or six or seven gas, five gallon gas tanks and I would fill them up. Because if we get the bad hurricane, and I want to scare people, but if we get the bad hurricane, the Katrina again, that does real damage to the Gulf. We don't have strategic reserves anymore. Biden depleted most of them in 2022. We haven't filled them up. We've depleted a little more since. You know, you get three days of oil and gas shutdown. Remember the Constitution. The Colonial pipeline got shut down. They thought it was a Russian cyber hack a couple of years ago. It was 12 hours and it was, was flipping chaos, especially in this area in the D.C. suburbs. It was insanity and nothing had even disappeared. It was just the fear of oil and gas, of gas disappearing. Our reserves are in such bad shape that I just think it would be good strategy. You're not going to need to drive to grandma's house. But if they get a hard hurricane in Carter's beloved Texas and the Gulf is shut down for four days, you just want to get to the grocery store, right? You need to be able to take your kid to the ER if necessary. You know, you need to do whatever happened as like as a dad or as an adult, you need to do. And that was the advice I gave the show. There was a little bit of silence and they were like, that's pretty serious. Like, yeah, it is. But like, we have to be honest, the strategic reserves should backfill. That's what we did in Katrina. Like, oh boy, bad hurricane. But don't worry guys, we have 900 million barrels a day. We have five months of oil and get of gas supply. We're fine. No one nervous. We don't have that anymore. And, and I, I would be nervous in hurricane season. I have now granted I have a farm, so I have a lot of gas on hand. If I were a normal dude, I would go to the home, I would go to Home Depot this summer and have 30 gallons of gas in the garage. What's it going to cost you?
E
You know, it's not going to put five gallons of gas.
D
I live, I live in a one bedroom apartment.
B
Ask Tim if he can store a couple. I mean they're not that big. If you live in an apartment, it's a problem.
A
Get the, get the big metal ones. You can get those off of ebay. I'm sorry, off of. From Amazon.
D
I'm just gonna put in my bathtub.
C
There you go. You don't need a shower anymore.
A
I got an electric car that I can get around in that.
B
That's. That could be your advantage right there. If that. You know, as long as I've been
D
calling you guys gay all these years and he survived the apocalypse jokes on
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you, all you have have to do is get in my car and we'll go for a quick spin and you'll be impressed.
B
Is it the Chevy Volt?
A
No, it's a Tesla Model S Leaf.
D
Right? It's like a roller skate.
E
Yeah.
C
There.
B
Little tiny narrow ones.
A
Literally one of the fast cars on the, on this, like on the, on the road.
D
You can be driving by and.
B
Nice.
E
No, I've driven. I drove one for a music video once and it was the acceleration power in a Tesla is pretty.
C
Pretty.
A
It's crazy. It's dangerous and it's. It's so smooth that like you have to be like, I use self driving a lot because if I don't, I just break 100 miles an hour every single time that I pass.
B
You're the only Tesla doing that because normally Teslas are as slow as could be on the road. It drives me crazy.
D
I'm like, the E bike's got some kick to it, but they're not in the Tour de France. No, it's not a bike.
A
It's not. You're right, it's not a bike. All right, so let's see.
D
Session finally.
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So Trump is talking about a his. From. From the Daily Mail. Breaking news. Trump reveals historic deal to disarm Hamas and Gaza in major milestone for Israel's security Donald Trump's Board of Peace has made a historic deal that promises to complete disarm. Promises the complete disarmament of Hamas as part of his 20 point plan to stop the fighting between Israel and the terror group. The president introduced the Board of Peace as part of the plan last September aimed at ending the conflict between the two sides. In a truth Social post Thursday night, Trump celebrated what he called a monumental step towards lasting peace, peace and security in the region. This agreement is a critical step towards Gaza finally being governed by a new Palestinian government that will work closely with the Board of Peace to help the Palestinian people. Trump added, at the same time Israel have the security it deserves with Gaza no longer uses base for terror attacks. I love your optimism, Don. It ain't gonna happen. I don't, I mean, peace. I, I, I don't buy it for a second that, that, that Hamas is actually going to disarm. Look, man, and it'd be great if they did, if the, if, if the war would end, if at the very least, if the war would end so my mentions would, would stop be, stop being full of people that are complaining about it Just, just for a selfish reason. Because I, look man, I'm not Israeli. I'm not, I'm not Palestinian. I don't really care.
C
Haven't you heard? We're all paid.
B
We're all Palestinian. We are all Palestinians.
D
Get the F out my eyes off a Rafa for five minutes. And then all they sort of roughing
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up on just, you can be Palestinian all day long. Just know that I'm armed.
C
You know, I was told that we're paid by the Tim.
A
I just don't, I don't care about it. And so, so yeah, it'd be great. I would, I want the war to stop just so people can shut up about it, you know? But I mean, look, there's there, there are wars going on all over the world all the time. There's, there's tons of people being slaughtered in Africa like every day and you don't hear about it. It's not something that's, you guys both jumped on your phone like, oh, let's find a war to talk about, all three of you guys. But like it's, it just doesn't, it doesn't really affect me in my day to day life. And I don't think that, like, I, I, like I said, I love Donald Trump's optimism.
B
Yeah.
A
But announcing this, like, oh, it's going to be great. Come on, you're going to end up with egg on your face because the Palestinians are not gonna, or, or the Israelis, maybe, maybe they'll break the ceasefire, someone's gonna throw a rock and some IDF guy's gonna be like, blam. You know, like that happens all the time too. So I feel like this kind of stuff, if you're like, get it done and then talk about it, like actually get it done and then talk about
C
it, just saying it is one of those things. And Trump's done this, right? He has these grandiose ideas and I love that, I love that he wants to have, you know, peace in the Middle east will never happen. But ending this conflict would be great. I love that he has those ideas. But it makes us all look kind of stupid if he says it. It doesn't happen. And people are like, oh, well, Trump said it's like, okay, then we. And ironically you were saying people are always talking about like, oh, free Palestine. But they don't talk about the Christians getting genocided over in Africa because they don't actually care what Nicki Minaj talked about it. And she got absolutely just like shunned by half her fan base. They don't care about that. They care about what the media tells them to care about. Right. Like I, does Israel and Gaza affect me? Not in the slightest. It also doesn't affect the same people who are crying about it in America. They, they're just crying about it because that's what they're told to cry about.
B
Well, so I, I googled and don't look this up. The fun question for you as saying, like, there are lots of conflicts going on in the world. According to the Red Cross, how many are they tracking? Distinct armed clashes worldwide. What would be your base? What would be your guess? 130.
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130.
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So name besides Ukraine, Iran and Gaza, name another. And absolutely.
D
The Storage Wars,
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Shark Wars. There's the, there's the Crab Fisherman Wars. 130. And we focus all of our attention. I mean, just today I saw some senator walking down the hall and there were the people screaming behind them about the Gaza and Palestine like you talk about getting paid. Name one of the other 125, 27 conflicts. Who the hell cares about those people? No one does.
A
Big part of the reason. Well, so there's two big major reasons. One has some crossover, the other one doesn't. In the US the left is totally consumed by the oppressor, oppressed narrative. They're also consumed by the colonialism narrative. And they look at Israel as a colonial power. They think that it's all Europeans, they're all Ashton Nazis, they're all Europeans that went and they took the, they stole this land from, from the native people, blah, blah, blah. And then there's also people that think that Israel controls the world or just hate Jews.
E
Right? Yeah.
A
And those two narratives kind of do have some crossover in, in the left and right. But the, the, the real one that's driving a lot of the stuff that you see, at least on the, or everything you see on the left. It's, it's all oppressor, oppressed narrative. It's all postcolonial theory. It's all, you know, anti colonialism. It's all, oh, Israel is colonized, is a colonizer of, of the, of Palestinian, it's Palestine, blah, blah, blah. They Ignore the history with the. With it, everything. You know, the world started in 1948 or whatever. Whatever. Some of the more thoughtful people will talk about, you know, the Zionist before and the. The. The. The events leading up to the formation of Israel. But for the most part, it's just like, well, you know, it's colonial, so it's an extension of the West. It's, It's. It's, you know, just like America. And for people in the US to buy into that, especially if you're not, like, a leftist. There are people that do kind of make that same argument. If you're buying into that, you're buying into their whole deal. You're buying into. You're buying into. The United States is not a legitimate country because it was stolen from the natives here. You're buying into all of it. So to give them. To. Giving them an inch at all is. Is. Is absolutely a terrible thing to do for the United States because eventually they will start focusing on you.
B
Yeah, that's a great point.
D
I think the more fascinating element of this story is the Board of Peace, which is funny because we already had, like, the Institute of Peace or whatever, which didn't really do anything. So then Trump just, like, took over the building and then renamed it the TR Donald J. Trump Institute of Peace, featuring the Board of Peace.
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But headlining what is.
D
Yeah, yeah. What's interesting is, like, a residency. It's great. It's like Vegas. What's interesting is the Board of Peace, like, a lot of the. A lot of these, like, international observer organizations are, like, really critical of the Board of Peace because they view it as Trump's attempt to roundabout the United nations should. Yeah, as you should.
C
Don't get me started.
D
This is why I, like, support it tactically, because, like, like, why not. Why not try to settle this now? Here's where they had a problem. So the mediators for the Gaza peace plan was Egypt. It was Egypt, Turkey, and I can't remember the third country that was involved. It was another country, but they were, like, somewhat normalized with Israel. The problem is, well, Israel and Egypt kind of like a blood feud. And then Israel and Turkey, like, hate each other. Like, Israel calls, like, Naftali Bennett was on TV the other day. He was like, Erdogan is like Hitler 2.0. And. And then Erdogan is like, oh, Israel's like this den of jackals, whatever. So, like, these two countries hate each other. So the problem was, like, we basically brought, like, all of their, like, civilizational enemies to the negotiating table to negotiate this peace deal. Israel already was like, pissed off about it. And the second problem was Trump did come up with the peace plan. So he's like, okay, you know, if the UN were to broker a peace deal in Gaza, they would send a peacekeeping force in, right? This is what you would do. And, you know, UN peacekeepers are completely inept. That's a whole nother conversation. Once again, goes back to India. I don't know why this keeps happening. Anyway, the Board of Peace peacekeeping plan, it was like Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Rafah, which we've all seen in the news. Guess who's in charge of Rafah? Indonesia. So it's like countries that can't even keep their own territory stable are now tasked with providing, somehow generating a peacekeeping force to send to Gaza to, like, monitor the situation, I guess. And in all fairness, they were kind of willing to do it. They were like, you know what? This, like, improves our standing on the international stage. You know, the UN is total disaster, so the Board of Peace, like, might as well give it a crack. Donald Trump supporting it. So it's going to, like, potentially get some backing. Well, then the question came, how do we get the troops in if Israel is actively bombarding Gaza? And so they were like, asking around. They're like, Kazakhstan, you ready to get in there? And they're like, like, I don't know, man. I think, like, I just saw like a big explosion. Okay, Kosovo, you in, like, I don't know, man. Indonesia, you know, who knows what they're up to? So it's like from the get go, it's just like this cursed plan. But that's why this isn't new news. They've been. The Board of Peace has been trying to broker this deal that actually on paper makes a lot of sense, which is like, okay, here's what we're going to do. Israel, like, stop. We're going to go in, we're going to get rid of, like, the entire Gazan Hamas government. We're going to get rid of Hamas, disarm them, which you probably would need Israel to do. But nevertheless, that was the plan. They go in, they train up a new set of bureaucrats to then take over Gaza, and then boom, then it comes the AI video of the towers and whatnot. So it's like, worth a shot because again, the UN's not going to be able to solve this. And if the United States, this new Board of Peace, can, like, get this big seminal victory that like, sets the tone. All these other countries that are like lobies, but they participated in it. Now they're staying on the global stage, improving. It's like a win, win all around. But that initial problem comes with, like, again, you're dealing with a region of the world where these people are, like, literally engaged in, like, ancient blood feuds. I mean, like Jacob, it goes like Jacob and Esau. So that was the problem. But I tactically support this attempt because again, that would be awesome to just completely circumvent the UN and, you know, it kind of goes back to all the right people were mad about the Gaza plan. You know, same thing when the MoU came out and like, all the right people were mad. You know, you had like, Mark Levin, he was infuriated. You also had these, like, pro Palestine, you know, protesters. They're all mad. So it's like, all the right people are mad about it. It was the same thing with the Gaza peace plan. All the right people are mad about it. But then it comes down to like, well, how do we actually in good conscious, send a bunch of Kazakhstanis in there to, like, try and monitor the situation? They're just gonna get roughed up.
B
The problem is that the very first bureaucrat they train who has good intentions, we'll just call him Mohammed Muhammad. Muhammad will be the, you know, the new Minister for the Interior in Gaza. And no matter his good intentions, his first night home, his house is going to blow up.
D
Yeah.
B
And then who's going to take his place? Like, I'm not taking his place. And there goes that. Because they're incapable of, of, of, of, of peace. Yeah, like, it's, it's nice. I, I agree with you. 100. Like, we applaud the president, we applaud the effort. Of course the world wants peace, but they don't.
A
It's vaporware.
B
They, they don't want. And they don't know there's a peace plan in the process because they don't want.
A
And look, you can blame, you want war, you can blame whichever side you want to blame. If you don't like, if you don't like Israel, you want to blame the Israelis, blame the Israelis. You don't like the Palestinians, blame Hamas, I don't care. But neither of them want peace.
D
Well, the clear pill is that the British should be put back in charge because the last time that region was at peace, the British were in charge.
A
So it's like, like, give it back to the Italians. Let Rome.
D
That's a good idea. I like that idea. That's. The clear pill is like, you know, reject the false dichotomy embrace. The third option is like, let's just put one of the colonial powers back in charge. And there's a degree of unironicness to that because I was listening to Erik Prince, I can't remember what show he was on, but he was talking about like all these third world countries and they were like, so why do you know, why does like for example, you know, the Central African Republic, why do they commission a PMC to come in and like, like handle security? And he was like, because they crave the prosperity that like western style government provides for the people. And he's like, this is a much better solution. It's just like not like a neocon, like let's just bomb them and like rebuild the country. It's like in a. We can use like certain institutions to go in and then just like stop the bleed at the sources. Like just provide security for these people. So that's why I'm kind of unironic that it's like, I don't know, maybe like bringing back colon colonization with like just, just settle the whole matter.
C
I mean, I'm with you on the hating the UN thing. Anyone that knows me knows that there's probably no one that hates the UN more than I do. Like, yeah, like genuinely I hate the UN And I think this all actually goes back to the U. N. At least for 1948. They're the ones that created the mandated borders. And now here we are all these years later and they're still fighting over. They were never going to create anything. They tried to do like a compromise and it wasn't working. And they were like, okay, I guess we're going to just scrap that, whatever. But again then they're like, oh, we'll send in a PKO know to what, like hurt the children and the women? Because that's what the PKOs are doing now in every place that they're at. The longest running PKO is in Israel and Gaza. It was the first one they created in 1945 and it is still there. And obviously it's not doing. Not keeping any peace, not maintaining any peace. They go in after. They don't even like create peace. And everything the UN does isn't legally binding anyways. Unless it's the Security Council. But who's on the Security Council? Who are the five people that can
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veto the security count? If it's on the Security Council, it's only legally binding because of the United States.
C
Exactly.
D
Russia Security Council.
C
Exactly.
D
Because it's all conflicting on the same board.
A
Yeah. We just veto China, which is why the U.N. china vetoes the United States, just despite the U.S. exactly.
D
The U.N. it's like they'll, you know, pass the Stop kicking puppies. You know, resolution, resolution. And everyone's like, seems like a good idea. And then you, like, read the subtext and it's like, like, by the way, the United States is going to pay for the puppies. Yeah. And we vote against it. And then everyone's like, wow, the United States is so evil. Why would they, like, want to kick puppies? And it's like, dude, first of all, like, so ineffective.
A
Kick the UN out of the. Out of New York.
C
Actually, just get rid of the UN in general.
D
We, like, nationalize the UN and then. And then use it as like an extra, like, tool in our tool belt to just, like, dominate the rest of the world.
C
We don't need it.
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Instead of.
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The problem is like, this idea that it's such a like, like, false, like, libtarded idea that, like, for whatever reason, Mauritius should have the same, like, say in global ridiculous as like, the United States, literally. What?
B
No, North Korea. Chair the Committee on Rights of Women. Like, like, that's a good idea.
C
One that was like. It's like Afghanistan, I think, at one point was like the president, like a month of the Council on Women or something. And I was like, you've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me.
B
Shows you what they think of women.
D
I mean, look, in a weird way, like, based, but not for the right reason.
C
All the wrong reasons, but it's based. I did model UN for, oh, man, at least 10 years, and I actually taught at a college level. Model un. That's why I hate it so much, because I know how ineffective is. When I taught it to people.
D
Like, if it was one of my friends and he put Afghanistan in charge of, like, the Women's Rights Committee, I'd be like, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. But the fact that it's like liberal bureaucrats doing.
B
But it's not really the game of Risk. Right. This is real. This is, like, real stuff.
D
Yeah. Then they're like, we're gonna just, like, circumcise women. I was like, is that possible? How do you do that? Oh, they figured it out.
B
Your point, though, about, like, do we bring back old colonial powers?
E
It's.
B
It Paul Johnson, who's one of the great minds of the last century in British intellectual, love all of his books, but he makes that point a lot, especially about Africa. When were they actually free? Right. We gave them their freedom, you know, at the end of the, of the war and all the demanding their freedom. And now all these colonies are free, but now they live in poverty, rape, destruction, famine. Like where they. Are they free now or were they free when they were a colony?
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Tribal warfare and.
B
Exactly. And that's the same thing. Like, you're free, Gaza is free. Right. It used to be part of Israel. And I remember when Ariel Sharon turned it over and then people were like, well, we've lived here now for 30 years and, and well, now Gaza's free. So how's your freedom going? Right. It's an important understanding of what freedom means. And colonialism has such, you know, negative connotations that. Which is kind of funny. But being Americans, we thought colonialism worked pretty well until 1776, until George pushed
D
his luck a little too much.
B
But like, we were colonized and I thought my ancestors did pretty damn well as a result.
D
That's true. And this is like, and this is, by the way, like, this is like the red pill. Cause it's like when you think about conquest, taking over a country and then like effectively running things for them in the modern 21st century context, that's like, that's what we did in Afghanistan. So you hear that. And it's like the problem was like neoliberalism, neoconservatism, like functionally pretty similar. It's just colonialism but with like left wing principles where it's like, no, we're doing this for them. Like, we're doing this to like, you know, establish liberal equality. Same. And they have these like fake elections or it's like, see, look, you can vote for, you know, Mickey Mouse or whatever. It's like, no colonialism. We're sending in Lord Mount Bottom Batten and he's going to come in and he's just going to like, sort everything out for you guys. It's going to be great. Like, dude, like, like hacking away at sugarcane is a lot better than what you'd be doing anyway. Like, unironically, like, that's sugarcane.
A
Or hacking away at your neighbor.
D
Yeah, exactly. It's like Haiti. You guys used to eat baguettes, now you're eating dogs. It's like a little bit of a downgrade there, you know? Yeah, I'm just saying. So it's like colonialism. Like, obviously it's probably not going to come back anytime soon, but the 21st century is opening, is opening kind of these, these potential pathways to like a modern iteration of that where now you're seeing the return of the privateer. Infamously recently, you know, the Pentagon's issuing kind of privateering licenses. All of these countries all across the world, across the third world are having these security crises. They are commissioning PMCs to come in and clean everything up. So it's like, obviously it's not going to be the same as, like, London establishing, you know, the East India Company and whatever and like, running everything. But there's going to be a quasi return to that, especially as things continue to, like, kind of balkanize, as globalism continues to kind of collapse under its own pressure. It's going to open up for ambitious young men who, like, do want to just, like, go to the frontier. Dude, the frontier now is like, Africa. Like, I was out there for like, five months and I'm walking around, I'm like, dude, dude, you could get a squad together and just take over this country. I mean, dude, Mark Thatcher, Maggie Thatcher's kid, he tried it. He got caught at the airport. But you have, like, Bob Denard, okay, He's a polygamist, so, you know, that's a hit on him. But we have polygamists in this country, and I think, you know, we nominated one in 2012, and it was great. But Bob Denard, you know, he was, like, running the Seychelles, actually. Things weren't too bad, you know, he was just like. I don't know, it seems like a fun thing to do. Like, people underrate the benevolence of, like, a patriot that just, like, wants to write his name and etch his name in the history books. It's like, like, dude, a lot of those guys will actually govern in, like, a very benevolent way because they want to be liked by these people. They want to provide for these people so they can, like, achieve greatness. Like, they want to be great. And, you know, like. Like Neil Ellis, he was like the famous, like, Rhodesian bush pilot or whatever. Like, some of the stories he has are, like, absolutely insane, where he's going to West Africa and he's holding off like, thousands of guys in a helicopter. And then now he's just like, I think you can, like, add him on LinkedIn and just, like, talk to him. It's like these guys, these like, actual heroes, like, walk some walk amongst us and like, the 21st century is rolling around. I think that era is coming back to some degree where it's like, now you actually can go and these people who are craving security, you can bring it to them instead of doing it in, like, a libtard. Like, oh, we're gonna like establish like liberal democracy here. You can just go and like actually try to provide for these people in a really interesting way. And that's like a multi hour conversation, all that. I mean with the demise of the Biden admin, the demise of usaid, like the boots off the neck now for great men who like want to go and do cool things. Things.
A
Yeah.
D
You got to compete with Vogner unfortunately.
A
Well, I mean look, the, the idea that, that you know, poverty produces crime is wrong. But crime does drive poverty. Right. So part of the reason why these, these countries are having, you know, have such a problem after the, the colonists left is because they have no security anymore to Tape's point. So like if you can get, whether it be a private military company or, or whatever, if you can get them to actually stand up some kind of security force and stop people from just slaughtering each other or over you know, past grievances, tribal rivalries, whatever it is, just get that to stop. A lot of the problems downstream from that can get fixed. Then you can have people, then you can actually have investors from other countries say, you know what, maybe I can go in there and actually invest a little bit.
D
Yeah. Order is the most benevolent thing a government can provide to a society. Case in point. Because this like model can't be applied to the United States for a variety of reasons. But like Bukele, what he's done in El Salvador, like El Salvador turns out all these complicated economic reforms and like getting the, you know, World bank involved and like this, that and the other, none of that worked. You know what worked was like just establishing order. And then it turns out the vast majority of El Salvadorians are like broadly good people.
A
Just put the criminals in jail.
D
I just want to like run my grocery store and not have to worry about getting cleaned out.
B
If Erik Prince could be given a thousand guys and bring his old black water into Haiti with a little bit of license, within two years there would be like Club Marriott resorts. Because it's. The other side of the island is the doctor, which is nice I've been. But it's, it's, it's not Haiti. No, but only thing that.
A
Yeah, but they have a big goddamn wall between Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
D
Barbecue running everything.
B
But as you said, like young, young people who want to make, young men who want to make their name, you know, you give them an island, half the island like Haiti with security, people will go and they will. Whether it's, they're. They're looking for Bauxite mines, or whether they're looking for resorts or jungle tours, they will be attracted to it. Africa, sadly, is much bigger.
D
Yeah.
B
You know, so it's harder to do country by country, but you can.
D
That was the British secret sauce. They just found ambitious young men who wanted to be heroes.
C
I think we send you in to do it.
D
Yeah, I just need some money and, like, some guys and some security. Some security. And also to eliminate this from the public record, because then the federal government.
B
Security is the big thing.
D
All right, that's so true. It's like, literally, this is like. Like, it's just so inspirational to think that, like, this is quite literally what the British did. And to be fair, but mainly the British, the secret sauce. Ambitious young men don't smother them. This is like, the problem in the west now is we live in this, like, nanny state where they just smother young men and make them look gay and, like, actually, like, gay, gay.
B
It was the blind eye that our presidents turned towards the wild West.
D
Yes.
B
Saying, like, yeah, what they're doing probably isn't great, but we don't have an armed forces that can go there, and they're trying to settle. And so, yeah, they got to put down the law in whatever way they can. We still tell tales of those guys. Yeah. And people were like, well, do you know that actually a lot of people were killed? Yeah, I know a lot of people were killed in the process.
E
Right.
D
You got to crack a couple eggs and make an omelette.
B
They probably deserve to get killed. Right. They probably deserve to get killed. That's why everyone loves Tombstone so much.
D
Right.
B
Like, they deserve. I want you, Huckleberry.
D
What do you think? John Wayne was a boy scout? I think he actually was a boy scout, but that's not the point.
A
John Wayne was everything. I think he was like.
D
And there's a reason he, like, embodied the frontier, even if he wasn't, like, you know, mowing people down, like, to your point. I mean, that's like. There's a reason we glamorized that, because they just trudged into, like, quite literally wilderness and just carved, like, civilization out of rock.
E
Yeah.
A
So we're gonna jump to this story here from Fox News. We're talking about basketball again. Storm co owner suspended after incident with Sophie Cunningham fans as star breaks silence on controversy.
B
Talk about lack of civilization.
A
Celeste Keaton banned from five home games after a confrontation with teenage. With teenage Sophie Cunningham supporters at the arena. Seattle Storm co owner Celeste Keaton has been fined and suspended from Attending the next team the team's next five home games. The WNBA confirmed on Fox News Digital the suspension and fine comes after Keaton allegedly called a pair of teenage Sophie Cunningham fans effing insane during a game on Tuesday. Independent Seattle based journalist Brandy Cruz told Fox News Digital cruise was in the arena arena and accompanied by the girls who were there to watch Cunningham and the Indiana Fever take on the storm. Cunningham and drunk addressed the incident involving Keaton in an X repost from Fox News Digital's report late Wednesday night. Got a little video here. Let's see. Hopefully they don't swear, but it's late. Got audio there.
E
We may have to unmute the tab as well.
B
Then they definitely won't swear if there's no.
E
Yeah, you want me to do it?
A
Yeah, go ahead.
D
It looks mad.
B
Hey, you girls. Why are you saying these mean things to me? I'll narrate for you. I'll.
A
That's the group. That's not the tabs. That's the group.
B
Excuse me, sir. I am trying to get an autograph from my favorite player.
E
Can you.
A
Right next to wnba, right?
B
Listen there, missy.
E
Here, if you find it for me, I can unmute it.
D
Watch your mouth, young lady.
B
Golly gee, if I hear that word one more time, I'm going to tell your.
A
That's the tab.
D
I'll let you have it.
E
That's why I don't like the tab.
D
Is that the video?
A
That's the tab, yeah. This is the video.
D
Rousing.
E
This is the tab.
A
That's it. Oh, there we go.
D
Okay, now we can watch what he was saying. Here we go. Here we go.
B
Now we hear it.
D
Leave my daughter alone. Go, go.
A
Is it really your daughter? All right, so it's just a bunch of women.
D
All right, so I was.
B
I was pretty close with my narration.
D
Pretty close. Can I just. Can I say the obvious? And, like, 95% of the audience is going to agree. Everything I've learned about the WNBA has been against my will. Absolutely against my will. I don't.
C
As a woman. Absolutely. Also, can we just talk about the fact she called them effing insane when she's a coach for the wnb.
D
I don't like.
C
What are you doing?
D
You're, like, going through a WNBA game like, a den of jackals, objectively, and, like, petitioning for, like, conservative values. That's like going to North Korea and, like, petitioning for, like, market reform. It's like, dude, that. That's, like the whole point of the WNBA is, like, subversion. Well, also The W. Why do we. What are we doing here?
C
The irony is that the WNBA has to be subsidized by the NBA because it wouldn't make any money on its own because no one cares about women and sports. I'm sorry. They can be great. College. College softball. I'll give you a break. I like college softball.
A
As a woman volleyball. People carry a lot.
C
Okay. Men care about that. But I. Okay, I. I'm a sports person. I want to see dudes just, like, tackling each other and, you know, like, I like. I love football.
D
Like, I want them to say about baseball. Then what about Malice at the Palace? But, you know, Malice at the Palace. Ron Artest runs on Meta World Peace, runs into the I don't want to dead name him and runs in. The audience starts beating the crap out of a Pistons fan. Now, that's a brawl.
C
Okay. Yes. Because it's a Pistons fan. As someone from Detroit. Yes.
D
That was awesome.
B
The problem is that it's a sport that is dominated by men, and. And men are what make it interesting. Like, there are some women's sports, like, every Olympics. I'll watch.
D
Gymnastics is awesome.
C
I'll watch women's figure skating.
D
Yeah.
B
I'll watch women's swimming. I'll watch.
C
We get it, Phil.
A
Women's volleyball.
B
When you. When you're asking women to compete in a sport that is dominated by men and. And the. The. The male ability is what makes the sport interesting, and then you ask women to do it. It's.
C
It's very good.
D
The clear pill here is like, why is women's gymnastics so much more. Why are there so many more eyeballs on it than the men gymnastics in the Olympics? It's like, are they better gymnasts? It's like, I don't know. Maybe not. But because gymnastics. And this is like. You just got to bear with me. Audience here is, like, the candid femininity. The candid femininity in women's gymnastics adds to the allure of the presentation, to the audience. That's why people like it. Because. Not saying that it's inherently feminine, but that aspect does so much for the sport that, like, puts it all together and makes it a package that's, like, compelling for the American audience. It's the same thing with figure skating. Like, is it an inherently feminine thing? Maybe. Maybe figure skating a bit more. But the point of why is, like, Alyssa Liu capturing hearts and minds and, like, not. Not whoever the figure skater is is because when it's like. When it's more like an expressive Thing like gymnastics or like figure skating. That's where, like, femininity, like, really has its, like, strong suit. And then it's that candidness of it's athletics. But they're able to, like, channel that through the sport. That's why people like it so much. The problem with the wnba, there is no candid femininity. You show me Brittney Griner's bicep, I'm gonna mix that up with an NBA players. Like, there's armpit hair and everything. So it's. So it's like it's impossible for candid femininity to break through in the wnba. Therefore, it's fundamentally subversive.
A
That's one of the things that people like about Sophie, though, right? Sophie Cunningham. Like, she is attractive. She's good at the game, obviously, but she's also attractive. That's why she's. That's why she gets as much attention as the. The brunette girl whose name escapes me right now. But, yeah, Caitlyn, she's a. She's a better player than, you know, but she's not as hot as Sophie.
B
C. Hot.
D
But the problem is there's no candid, feminine beauty in the wnba. Therefore, it's always going to be an inferior product. Where. What I'm trying to get at here is that it doesn't. The women don't necessarily need to be better than the men at the sport for the sport to be viable, for the sport to capture American hearts and minds. It's just that aspect that's going to intrigue people in the sport. It's not just necessarily sex appeal, that's certainly an aspect of it, but it's that candid, feminine beauty that draws people in. And this is like a broader problem with American society is that we celebrate the most carnal, degenerate aspects of sexuality and, like, suppress and shame the most. Like, innocuous, innocent, candid expressions of human sexuality. And therefore, people live in hell. Like, literally, it's illegal to be straight in the US there's some degree of truth to that. Because, like, for example, with the latest guidelines they're giving for, like, the next. And it's going to apply to the Olympics, all the broadcasters are disseminating this is. They're saying, no more low shot of the female athletes. But. And it's like some people are like, oh, that's because, like, you know, so the pervs can check it. I was like, no, but because part of the what. Like, part of what captures people, men and women, is like that feminine expression that's what, like, adds to the product. That's why people are interested. And then what I'm trying to get at is that's impossible in WNBA because it's such an inherently, no doubt about it, masculine environment, that there's no possible way for femininity to ever be expressed in basketball, it's impossible. That's like asking femininity to be expressed in war. Like, the point of team sport is it resembles war. Yeah. This is like football, the origins of football. And like football, meaning rugby, American football, soccer. The reason it's 11 on 11, the reason it's two teams is because they were practicing, like, battle tactics.
A
Yeah.
D
The solo individual sports. The reason why females, even if they're not as good at the sport as the men, are able not just to break through, but become stars, is because you can express femininity in your.
C
Individually.
D
Individually in your performance. And that's what draws people, and that's what makes people.
B
It becomes repulsive. Who was the football team? Was it the Carolina Panthers that had the guy cheerleader?
D
Yeah.
A
Oh, there's a lot of them out there.
B
Was it the Vikings? And there are guy cheerleaders in college sports, but they're not playing the girl roles.
A
Yeah.
D
They're throwing them in the air.
B
So to see a guy play the girl role. And there's lots of gay dudes on tv. Like, everyone watched Will and Grace.
E
Yeah.
B
It wasn't that he was clearly gay. That was repulsive. It was that he was doing things that are inherently female. That is repulsive. Like, genuinely repulsive.
A
You know, I think that's what you're
B
getting at with the wnba. Like, these are genuinely masculine things.
D
So I'm like, I don't care what
B
her chicks are after. A badge. Like, it's, it's repulsive.
A
Kind of. To bring it back. Hold on. To bring it back to the, to the.
D
The.
A
Actually, the point of this whole topic, right. The. The thing that Sophie Cunningham said about trans players, you know, trans players in, you know, the.
E
The.
A
That's the reason why people generally have a, you know, a standoffish. If you're going to use a. A, A gentle word when it comes to trans women. Right. Like, they're like, there's something that. That is just repulsive about men that are trying to be women. And. And because you.
D
Yes.
A
Almost all the time, you know.
D
Well, that's why. And that's why. And that's why I. And that's why I reject a couple that pass. And this is why I reject these.
B
They're usually Thai or something, you know, or, like, Vietnamese.
A
Like, they're Hunter Schaefer passes.
D
But this is. But this is why I reject this, like, proposition from the outset that, like, I need to get behind her and support her and, like, support her as this, like, wedge issue because. Oh, so she, like, agrees with me on, like, a culture war topic. It's like, I'm rejecting the entire proposition of, like, women's basketball being commercialized and put on everyone's television set. Like, that's fine if they play that growing up in sport, but, like, the point is, it's an inherently subversive thing because even if she, like, is speaking my language on said culture war issue, the actual institution, like, we're missing the forest for the trees here. It's like the actual institution in and of itself is subversive. It does contribute to. To this problem that we have in American society, which is that men and women are viewed as equal. No ands, ifs, or buts about it. There's no possible way for feminine expression to come across.
A
I'm not so sure that. That men and women are viewed as equal.
D
Well, not by us, but, like.
B
No, no, no, no, no.
A
I mean, but. But even if society. Even if society articulates that argument, right, that is not the way society behaves.
D
I agree. I'm just saying that the goal, right, of. Of the general engine room right now of culture is trying to push that narrative.
A
I agree that they're pushing women as opposed to. And they're pushing women while they're holding men back. You look at.
D
You look at.
A
Look at the suicide rates. You look at the. Look at men in college. You look at men getting jobs. You've. You've had. You've, you know, a bunch of people that have had problems where they're just like, guys that are like, I can't get a job at all, you know, because a guy won't get hired. So it's not just that. The situation is that we're trying to. To. To convince ourselves that we look at society as everybody being equal. It's actually, the rules are reversed, but we're still trying to convince ourselves.
D
Yeah, I think that's true. Where they're trying to effectively establish a matriarchy, but, like, part of the. Part of the way that they're able to get that done is by demonstrating to the American people badly. But they're trying to demonstrate to the American people that, like, no, see, women can do the exact same thing men can do and actually excel at it. And What I'm saying is like, like, okay, Sophie Cunningham throws out like some CHUD bait for everyone. It's like, what now? Like, I'm going to take my kids to a WNBA game. That's on you. That is on you. You're participating in an institution that is subversive, that hates you. I don't care how many people are like, have good talking points on like, cultural topics. It's all, it's all like, designed to erode. If you are a right winger, if you are just broadly on the right of center, it is all designed to erode and chip away at your values.
C
I mean, I, I'm, I'm very anti feminist in most senses. As a woman, it bothers me that they're trying to, they're not just trying to push women up like you're saying. They're trying to push men down. They want men to feel bad for being men. And men shouldn't feel bad. I, Men are great. They shouldn't feel bad for that feminist.
A
Like feminists. And this is broadly, you know, a criticism of feminism overall, right? The, the, the whole entire push for, for trying to make society believe that there, that there is actually equality. But feminists, when they look at men and they talk about men and they, they complain about men or they, they articulate how they feel about men, they're always talking about rich men and their dad. Yeah, it's, it's, it's never, they're never talking about the guy that comes to get their garbage. They're never talking about the, the guys that do the hard work in the, in the, in, in society. All the things that keep society going. Right. All the difficult tasks that, you know, the linemen in the freezing cold in the winter because you had a snowstorm and, and powers out to, you know, 10,000 people or whatever, they're out there working 24 hours or whatever to get, get power back up. You don't hear women saying, oh, I want to do that. You know, you don't. Women are not working on oil rigs. And, and, and these are the things that keep society functioning. Right? They're the things that make modern society work. So it's, it's all, it's all a story that, you know, it's a narrative that they spin. It's a story they tell themselves when it's, it's just not true. Femin successful men, they rail against 1 or 2% of the population and their dads, you know, you know what I
C
will say on that point, look right in the camera. At the audience. If you're a single guy and you're like how do I date? In this modern age, the first thing you should ask a woman is what her relationship with her father is like. If she says oh my dad is just, you know, like she doesn't like her dad and he's clearly done nothing wrong. Run other direction, a million miles per hour, get out of there, do not date her. That is going to come back on you at some point. Point. That's the best advice I can give any guy is that she should have a very good relationship with her dad. My dad's the best.
A
Or if she doesn't know her father.
C
But that's different. That's different. But like just hitting your dad for being a dude is like, you can tell normally when they're talking about it, like they're not like oh my dad like left when I was a kid, like that's different. But when they're like oh my dad just never home, just it's like always out working and providing for you guys. Oh my gosh.
B
Now you envy though that envy that you were just talking about of, and hatred for, for, for successful men, which is envy. It shows how like the heart of feminism is the same, the same evil, the same Marxism of just Marxism in general. It's the, it's Mom Dhami, the ultimate feminist. Right. Like he hates successful New Yorkers.
D
Yeah. And if you do by resentment.
B
Exactly. It's just the politics of envy. And, and feminism in that sense is just an extension of Marxism. Right. Because it's, it is a politics of hatred for people who have achieved, achieved what I haven't because I, I, I'm either too lazy, too, too indifferent to, I mean Momdama is the ultimate failure. He lived off his mom and dad's money until he was third. Talk about 35 year old men who have done nothing very mad and then ran for office because it was easy to do and he knew enough liberals would be like, oh, I'll vote for the guy with the Star wars name. And now he's the mayor of New York with no accomplishments.
D
He's importing this Mediterranean world work environments.
B
Exactly. You know, ultimate and the same as the feminist who has 45 PhDs who hates that person who has never accomplished anything. It's the politics of it.
C
They hate the hate men, successful men. And they hate women who embrace being feminine. They hate women who want to have families. They're like, oh, you want kids? How dare you're putting every woman down by wanting to go have kids. What are you talking about? That's the best way to lift women up is to. That's what we are here to do, is to be a, you know, a second part of. Of man, but also to have their children and to raise those children up to be contributing members of society. So I'm really sick of the whole, like, WNBA is just some feminist weird. Like, I just. I hate all of it. I. I get like, yeah, Sophie Cunningham. I'm glad she said what she said. But, like, Tate's saying doesn't mean she's on your side. She's still participating.
D
Again, it's like, if there were a North Korean who, like, was great on, like, the markets, I'm still against North Korea. Like, one of them is, like, good on the issue. But. But to your point, even at the early one, that's even starting to break down for men because of how, like, entrenched feminism has become, because now you have this epidemic of the girl dad. And what I'm trying to get at here is. Doesn't mean a father that has daughters. That's a completely different thing. I'm specifically talking about the girl dad. We saw this on display with Dave Ramsey recently. And, like, I like Dave Ramsey or whatever, but he.
C
He.
D
It's like, very girl dad. This is, like. It's a. It's an epidemic where this, like, lady calls in, and she's like, you know, my boyfriend or whatever. Like, it's been five, six, seven years, and he won't propose to me. And I can't remember her explanation because she's in a ton of debt. That was why? And he's like, yeah. And Dave Ramsey is like, well, you need to dump them. And it's like, you sit back and you think for a second. You're like, okay, she's put herself in this situation. Zero accountability for her. It's the guy's fault. The guy is so evil for not proposing to her. And it's. And it's like, I'm pro marriage, Very pro marriage, pronatal, et cetera. I have very conservative values on these things. I've been called a Ned Flanders conservative. I embrace that. What I'm trying to get at here is, like, now the dad isn't even a reliable stopgap because you have so many dads who are, like, bought into this, like, daughters can do no wrong, women can do no wrong philosophy where, like, somehow it's always a man that's, like, wronging the. The. The. The. The woman. And so, like, Dave Ramsey's like, Communicating. It's like, okay, dude, first of all, she was like, a nurse. How do you get much debt in the first place as a nurse? Like, you should get out of that quite quickly. Second of all, she should have dumped him four years ago. Like, you should be able to size him up pretty quickly if he's not going to commit. Like, where's the responsibility on the woman fronting up in that situation? She moved in with them. Do you know, like, if they broke up now, she's like, on the street, basically. Like, just zero accountability. And this is like an epidemic of the girl dad. And it's like, entrenched in grain feminism now impacting fathers where they, like, quite literally think the daughters can do no wrong. So this is like, what really irks me about conservative media broadly is it's always these, like, hits. Men aren't doing enough. Men are doing this and the other. And I'm like, I agree. The state of the modern man's rough. The state of the modern woman in many ways is even worse. Like, can you blame a lot of these guys for not even wanting to date these women?
A
It's like, totally understand your point. The idea of Megyn Kelly criticizing women, you know, or criticizing or even criticizing men, like, Megan Kelly is not behaving like a conservative woman.
C
Like the woman she would, you know, like.
A
Like, I don't know if she has kids or not. I think she does, but. But even still, Megan Kelly didn't raise them. Someone else raised.
C
She was busy working.
A
You know, it's like. Like, Sarah stays home, right? She. She's with Theodore. If I'm not there, then she's with Theodore. Like, we don't put. We don't. We don't have. I don't have someone else raising my kids. Kid, you know, mother. The mother, you know, my kid's mother is raising my kid.
B
It's just.
D
It's just so annoying where it's like the constant belittling of men and it's like, dude, it takes two to tango. Like, modern man bad. Totally agree. We, like, literally hit on it for, like, two hours. But the modern woman is like, equally in a just disastrous state. To be fair. A lot of it is like social engineering or whatever. But, like, what I'm trying to get at is, like, it's not simply enough to just tell men, like, well, you need to step up and you just go up and cold approach her or whatever. It's like, like, sure. But also, like, a lot of these women are crazy. Like, are out of control.
C
Absolutely no you're right. And that's the thing. It's like. I mean, it's a lack of accountability on both sides, but it is more so women. I know plenty of women who, if there's a breakup, they're like, everything is his fault. I'm like, again, more dating advice. If a woman tells you that her ex did everything wrong and she can't name one thing she did wrong, also a red flag because. Because you should be able to take accountability. Like, when you're having communication, like, you're. You get in a fight with your significant other argument, whatever. You should both be able to say, look, I'm sorry, xyz, for whatever you did that was wrong, knowing that they also did something, and you both apologize. That's how you maintain a good relationship and avoid these blowout fights or these breakups is you have open communication. You acknowledge what you did wrong. You say, you know what. Yeah, that was. I was hungry. It's usually me. I'm. I was hungry. I'm really sorry. I recognize that, and that's.
D
And that's, like, in the dynamic. But it's funny because, like, I have a fantastic girl at home. The best. Like, she's. She's absolutely fantastic. And guys will be like, well, do you have any dating advice? I'm like, no, I just got really lucky. Like, actually, you have to sift through, like, so much insanity to actually find a good one. And, like, I don't want to, like, you know, disclose anything, but, like, the way we met was fairly unconventional and
C
that sort of thing.
D
So, like, people are like, oh, what do you do? This, that? And I'm like, dude, I have zero advice. Completely lucky, because the state right now, it's literally a minefield. Like, I'm watching so many guys just get their lives absolutely obliterated for a variety of reasons.
C
Absolutely.
B
I've wanted to talk about the girl dad phenomena. I've been reluctant to. Because you want to encourage fatherhood.
D
Of course. And we need to differentiate dads with
C
don't be a girl dad.
B
Exactly. But. But I have always. And I guess we shouldn't start a new topic with little time.
A
Go ahead.
B
But I've always. I've always had a real problem with, like, not just the T shirt shirts. A lot of people have it on their. Their Twitter bio. Like, like, girl dad, husband to Sally, president of. Of General Motors, senator from Georgia. I'm like, like, I love the fact you put your family first, but, like, if my dad ever presented himself as, like, husband to Maria. Ew. Literally, like, you were like Goldman Sachs broker. Like, be like, man, you know, so. But it's always bothered me because dad had both sons and daughters, but he never would have called himself a son dad, a boy dad. And I don't know what's like, congratulations, you have daughters. Congratulations, you have a son. But like, I've never seen a guy wear a shirt like boy dad. Because they would be like, what do you mean by that? I don't understand why men wear a shirt that says girl.
C
So girl dad and boy moms are the worst. Because yeah, boy moms create girl dad dads. They do.
D
Yeah.
E
Well.
B
And like, my mom had boys, but she would like.
D
And here's what it is.
E
Because when you're trying to say I'm
D
a foodie, it's like, that's true too.
C
Me too.
D
And when people like. And to your point, it's so true. And to your point, like, I think the reason why it feels uncanny is because when you're presenting yourself as a girl dad, what you're doing is you are confessing that there's something inherently wrong with hyper masculinism. So you need a way to disarm yourself to other people. And by saying, I'm a girl dad is saying, hey, I exist around women and they like me, including my own daughter. Like, that's what you're trying to communicate to people is by saying, like, see, I got a softer side to me. And it's like, it's like, dude, you should be doing that through the way you treat people. Not based off of like the company that like, that you keep, or vice versa. So like when guys are like identifying as the girl dad or whatever, it's like they're almost conceding that there's something wrong with like being intimidatingly masculine. My wife, It's a way to disarm you.
E
That's what you're saying.
C
My wife runs my schedule. No, it's again, like when I say
D
the boy, that's why it's uncanny.
C
The boy mom is the one who is overbearing, doesn't like the daughter in law. Like the one who's always like my. It's, it's our wedding when her son's getting married. That's the boy mom. The boy mom creates a very feminine man which goes. And that man then becomes the girl dad type, where they're like, I have a softer side. I'm a bit feminine. No, be a dude. Be masculine. Like, if you're a feminine dude, that is the least attractive thing you can be.
D
We're Americans. We're supposed to work 18 hours a day. And then when your kid turns 18, you come by like, hey, by the way, I'm your father. Anyway, I gotta go back to work. Like, a bit of hyperbole there, but like, dude, what are we doing? Like, like, seriously. And this is like. And again, this is like, to lay my credentials on the table, like, pro marriage profit. Like, it's. So this is like, I think everyone broadly should be getting, like, married, having kids, et cetera. But this, like, a lot of men are operating out of scarcity right now. As in, like, because they don't know if they're guaranteed to carry their bloodline on because of how bad everything is right now. So when they get into a marriage, it's like, the end all be all. They can kick their feet up. They just completed life. And, like, it totally disarms all these guys where, like, now they're completely beholden to their wife because that is the apex. That is their magnum opus, is like their family. And it's like, that's great because I support that. But historically, men, a wife and kids was an outcome of a life well lived.
C
Yeah.
D
Where now that's like, the goal. Once I get there, I'm done. And it's like, dude, what if all these great men, as soon as they had a wife and kids, they kicked their feet up and they were like, defending this at all costs.
C
Like, Africa now.
D
Well, yeah, but like. And to be fair to them, it's not really their fault because that's like this, you know, the way that, like, the system kind of operates in this country, like, it is. Takes a lot to defend a family. Like, that is true. But part of it too is just like fellas that are operating out of a scarcity mindset, like, you end up in this situation where, like, that is the apex, you know, that's my goal, dude. That's an outcome of a life well lived.
E
Right.
A
I get what you're saying, but isn't it. Would you say that now it is harder for young men to meet women? I mean, I think that's why they're prioritizing. Yeah. The scarcity mindset is actually a reflection of reality. This doesn't know.
D
That's why I'm not blaming the guys for having a scarcity mindset.
E
It's a Kafka trap.
D
Yeah, I'm just. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, like, just be cognizant of that because I'm seeing so many of My friends, friends. I'm saying I'm 25, so, like, I'm a zoomer. And I'm seeing so many of my friends just bag the first girl that the first girlfriend they get like, let's get married.
C
I've seen that.
D
And I'm like, okay, don't play the field. That's a terrible idea. But, like, you know, maybe, like, know what you want. Like, don't just take the first option you get. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it does work out. But, like, oftentimes, because of the scarcity of mindset, like, I don't know when another one's gonna come along. So let's just get married, have kids, kick my feet up, and then you never hear from me again, bro.
A
I will tell you a story about that kind of mindset. I don't know when another one's coming along, but I'm not going to tell it on air.
B
Yeah, the. Also the problem, though, is that not playing the field. But if you constantly think someone else better is coming along, grass is greener, you don't have to. I'm saying, settle. But, you know, you. Everyone knows people who have prolonged relations or ruin a good relationship because, like, well, maybe, you know, that person's awful. Maybe there is someone else out there. And now you're 44, and that someone else out there has all been snatched up.
D
Yeah, I think the scarcity mindset mainly afflicts guys that are right wing. And I think what you're getting at mainly afflicts men that are left wing and then women broadly, where I think women almost correctly, actually, because that is the way that society is kind of set up right now is they can kind of just like, reach for the brass ring, in this case, I guess a diamond ring. Because part of it, I think, is because of online dating. Like, it inflates expectations. So you go on hinge and you're like, oh, my gosh, look like I.
B
Like, this is options everywhere.
D
Got options everywhere.
B
Swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe.
D
Back in the day, it's like you meet them at a grocery store. It's like, well, you know, it's probably my best option. That's great. And that's how you create, like, happy families. Like, this idea that everything's gonna be a Disney movie is just ruining.
B
There is some good news, though, and we talked about this before we went live, that a statistic, a bunch of statistics came out earlier of fertility rates nationwide have gone up in the last six months, except two demographics, which I thought was very interesting. It was illegal aliens. The fertility rate has dropped precipitously, which is not surprising because there are. No, not as many here. They would still be American if they're born, which is unfortunate. Thanks, Amy. Coney Barrett. And African Americans, and it's probably not that they are declining, it's just that the other groups are increasing and they have stayed the same. So it looks like they're declining.
D
Black Americans, their fertility rate is higher than everybody else's. They just have such a high abortion rate.
C
That's what I was gonna say.
D
They're more actual tfr. And to your point, and this is like, what a lot of people are missing is it totally dispels all of these, like, sociologists and economic economists who are, like, purporting all these different reasons why TFR is declining. It. Like, it turns out that actually if you just believe that you have a future in your country, you will have kids. Like, it's that simple.
B
And if you're happy, if you're happy and optimistic about the future, you have sex and you have kids. And that's a good thing. Those are good societal outcomes studied.
D
Like, and primates, I mean, we're not the same as primates. We have the imagination day. So it's not a one to one. But you know, primates, when they're in captivity, they can develop depression and they masturbate a lot. And this is like, true. You can look this up. This is true. Where cap. Primates that are not in captivity, they're out about not swinging around in the jungle or whatnot. You know, they're popping kids out left and right. And so it's like humans are kind of the same way. When humans are in captivity, they stop looking to breed, you know, using anatomical terms here, and they masturbate. And that's like exactly what we're seeing right now, where even if you're not living as a bug man in New York City City, everyone does feel this degree of captivity that we live in. Like, I was hitting on it earlier at the Nandy State when I was talking about how awesome it is that PMCs are coming back.
B
Look at the entire nation of Japan, where every single young person would rather sit at home and masturbate with a weird robot and then. And actually have a date.
D
Yeah, that's true.
B
That's. And it's.
D
It's destroying their much money you throw at it.
B
It's destroying their country. Like, no, I'd rather just do this. And.
A
Whoa. All right, so why don't you smash the, like, button Share the show with all your friends. On that note, we're gonna.
B
The masturbating robots.
D
Yeah.
A
We're gonna smash in general. Head on over to rumble.com so you can and join rumble so you can watch the after show and head over to timcast.com become a member. You can join the discord. You can call into the after show. You can talk to us. You can talk about masturbating monkeys. It'll be a great. Let's see. Right now we're gonna do some rumble rants. Phoenix 216 says Europe has fallen. Close our borders and build up our arms. Listen, I'm fine with, with, you know, conceptually building up our arms and, and I definitely want the borders to be closed, but the time to build up arms was like 10, 15 years ago. You know, like, especially if you're, unless you're like in your 20s, then. Okay, I get it. But if you're an, a grown adult, you know, if you're like 35, 40 years old old, like, the time to buy, buy yourself some, some arms and learn how to use them. That was a long time ago. So you're behind the eight ball. Yeah.
B
Yeah. I will always admire certain visionaries. The ones I think of the most are the ones who built New York's reservoirs and, and waterways. They built it for, you know, 9, 10 million people when New York had a population of 400, 000. Because they could envision this.
A
Yeah.
B
And we haven't done that in decades, maybe even centuries.
A
Forward thinking is, is very, very rare.
B
You start time prior buying. Yeah. Like becoming like defensive and well armed and well prepared. Those days were a long time ago. Start now. Yeah, better to start. But, but, but you're behind the curve.
A
You know, there was a time before COVID like being a prepper was kind of a joke joke. Right. There was the, you know, the doomsday prepper show. And, and you looked at all these people that were crazy, what have you, or they looked at those people as crazy. When covet happened, they were fine. They were fine. When, when covet happened. I mean, I got my house in New Hampshire. I live up there. You know, normally when I'm not doing the show and when covet happened, my life didn't change. You know, I, I didn't have to use, you know, newspapers for toilet paper. I wasn't worried about the fact that they, that toilet paper was gone from the shelves. You know, not. The only thing is when I just, when I did go to, you know, go, go into town to go to Walmart, I had to wear a mask. But everything else about my life was the same.
E
What about the gym though? Did you have your own gym?
A
We had to stop going to the gym. I had to stop going.
E
Yeah, no, me too it all down.
A
But I was like so. So to be fair. Yeah, that changed. But what I'm talking about is my day to day life when I was at home.
B
But they didn't close the strip clubs. Remember the that.
E
Yeah, that is.
B
Gyms were. Gyms were closed, cuz that's bad. But strip clubs were open because gyms and gyms and churches.
A
It was right.
B
But the strip clubs were allowed to stay.
D
Back to my earlier point. Gyms where you can see healthy expressions of sexuality. Nuked strip clubs. Most carnal, disgusting expression of human sexuality. Hey, have at it.
B
Yeah, it's everywhere. They were behind plexiglass though.
D
Oh, that's good.
B
We're not spreading disease as long as
C
we're staying life about it.
A
Did strip clubs really bring in plexiglass and put it on?
B
I'm just so.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah, I'm not a strip club guy.
E
Know that.
B
They were allowed open, you know, in almost every city and nationwide. They were all given permissions as. As exempt.
D
They're sanitizing the dollar bills.
A
Speaking of children, Chavez86 says a little late on the law. On the long tradition of announcing a Newborn on the 15th, we welcomed our first child four weeks early at 5lbs 4oz. Welcome to the world, Genevieve Antoinette. She's really a miracle baby. Congratulations.
C
Congratulations.
A
Thank you very much, Genevieve.
D
Well, that's a heavy.
A
That's a great name.
D
That baby's gonna be great.
C
Welcome, Genevieve.
D
Get it, get it, get a. I recommend all babies is just get a Twitter account. Even if you have little baby hands. Or start tweeting like at Democrat congress.
C
They'll be monetized by the time they're 18, right?
A
Yeah, yeah.
D
Goo Goo Gaga. Whatever's on your mind.
A
Why Shreddy 888 says if it's 99% of ADK young men, then that means the they left the women behind. And the US has a lot of young men that women won't date.
C
You mean Spain?
D
State mandated girlfriends from Morocco is what he's proposing.
A
Yeah.
C
Okay.
A
No, thank you.
C
Nope.
A
But I'm not exactly sure what he. What he meant because it sounds like he's confusing the US with with.
D
No, what he's saying is because all of these young Moroccan men have left the dating pool, there's now a Lot of single women in Morocco that won't have men and in America can't pair up. So we should have state mandated girlfriends from Morocco.
A
It's a terrible idea.
B
Yeah, yeah.
D
That's going to land a lot of beheadings. Women will sharpen.
A
Joe, the individual says, I lived in Dubai and Qatar. You can drink duty free liquor stores and bars. Same in Bahrain. You're thinking of Kuwait. Kuwait and Saudi, but they party in the countries with alcohol.
B
Yeah, well, I spent most of my time in. In Kuwait and, and Iraq actually. So. Yeah, I. I just despise them. I hope you had fun there. Congratulations. I. I despise the Middle East.
A
What were you doing in Iraq?
B
I was in the State Department.
A
Oh, okay.
B
Yeah, let's go.
A
I've heard a lot of people say things like I was in the State Department. That's why you have a positive view of Blackwater. I know some guys that, that worked for the State Department.
B
Awful place.
A
Awful. All right, let's see.
B
So much hated it.
D
You don't even get seasons. It's the worst part.
B
I think I still have sand in my nose. The crap you would pull out of your nose at the end of the day. Out of your eyes. Just.
A
Oh, just nice place to visit, I guess. No, no. Shadev says we need another reconquista to expel the hordes and another crusade to reassert the will of the West. My wife doesn't deserve this happening to her and her kin. I can't get her out of her country fast enough. I'm not sure where her country is. The United States is not getting involved in any kind of reconquista. And the Italians should be responsible for Jerusalem.
D
Yeah, it's like, you know, a good start would just be like voting for the anti migration policy a party and then we start to talk about like a war because it's like how are we supposed to get that across the finish line? VOX is pulling at 20%. It's like, it's unfortunate, but that's the
B
clear pill if your wife is Spanish. I mean this has happened before. It did take about 500 years for them to get their act together and they eventually expelled the North Africans. So you know, it will happen again.
D
It will just take a little 50, 60 years of unvetted mass migration. It's like dude of things. We're just getting started, remember?
B
Exactly.
A
Both France and the UK are dealing with immigration problems and they both have nuclear missiles. This is not going to be get out of. This is going to go 500 years.
D
You live in Bradford in the UK. Get out. Reform is going to nuke.
B
I've often thought we should do a pilgrimage to Charlemagne. I think he's buried in Aachen, Germany, and I feel like we need to go. And. And not that he's a saint, but you need to go pray at his grave site and inspire.
D
Oh, that's the.
B
The. The. The Reconquista. Because he. He was instrumental in it.
D
I have a picture on my Twitter. I went to Hadrian's Wall and hit it with the prayer and the hand on there. I guess the new move. Yeah, the.
A
The.
D
The wasp. Wasp. Israel.
B
The wasp. Western wall.
D
Yeah. Literally, you know, you get your vineyard vines on, get your loafers.
A
Great.
D
Yeah. And just boom, hit it. Hit a quick prayer. Throw a note in there.
A
I love it.
D
Please lower the.
B
You can start a worldwide trend. I'm telling you. That would be right here. That would be very like the.
D
The west should all go. We got to get to the Farage's desk. Like, Farage. We need pilgrimages. We need the Hajj. We'll, like, rotate around like Trafalgar Square.
C
There you go. Yeah.
D
Trafalgar Square. Imagine a bunch of wasps and their vineyard vines just, like, circling around it.
A
His life says, just had our first child yesterday, but can't miss. Tim Cass, can we get a shout out for Olivia Rose? I'm running on three hours of sleep. Too many nurses, doctors, and family. I'm sure Tim understands. Listen, three hours of sleep is a good amount of sleep in the first couple weeks.
C
Congratulations,
D
Olivia. So you got to do the.
C
Yes. Congratulations and welcome, Olivia. Happy to have another one?
D
Yeah, there's at least two in this world.
C
Yeah. It's crazy.
D
Olivia. Rodrigo goes first. 3.
B
It's a beautiful name.
C
You.
D
It's a good name.
C
Whenever someone's like, you have a pretty name, I'm like, I'll tell my dad. Like, I don't know. Like, thank you.
D
I didn't choose it.
A
Yeah.
C
I didn't choose it. He's probably watching right now.
A
Your boyfriend hates me. Says, remember since day one. Looking for help. My dad and business partner was recently diagnosed with als. Give. Send. Go. Is Mike's ALS diagnosis. Please shout out. Need home renovations. You guys are family.
D
Mike.
A
Mike's als. Diagnosis.
D
Diagnosis. All right. Yes. Everyone head over there right now.
A
Now.
D
When. When we had Patriot mom down for the count, you guys. Unbelievable. Yeah, he. He was over the moon about the support, so.
C
All right. I think.
D
Get over there. Mike's als.
A
Awesome.
C
I'mma put it On X right now too.
B
Terrible diagnosis.
C
It is. It's awful.
A
Son of a. Mike here says the woman in the UFC I find to be as exciting as the men only leave I've league I've ever experienced this. I mean, no.
D
Yeah, that's a freezing cold take. I'm sure you're a great guy, but I agree disagree here.
A
We love you, Mike, but yeah, no, no, no. So yeah, smash the like button. Share the show with all of your friends. Share the show with everyone you know. Head on over to rumble.com and become a member there so you can watch the after show which starts in just a moment. And head on over to timcast.com join the Discord. Get in there, talk to people, meet people, make babies with people. In in the Discord, you won't be the first. You'll find yourself a girlfriend or boyfriend maybe. Fingers crossed. But yeah, do you want to have any. Where can people find you? So yeah.
B
Daniel Turner. Power the Future. Power the future.com for all things energy, climate change. We're on the good side of all these issues. And if you love sheep and you love farming and you want to follow us on Instagram, Bristol Farm, Virginia, your favorite favorite sheep farmers there. So we love, we love fans there. But yeah, great to be on the program.
A
Cool.
C
All right. Yeah, you guys can follow me at Olivia Dasavic on X or on Instagram. Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't shout out at More today. So shout out to at more and again go to timcast.com discord join us there. We have a lot of fun.
D
Awesome. Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at realtate Brown. Daniel, this is a blast. Please, that was fantastic. Please come like every day.
E
Day.
A
Every day.
D
I know you have like, like chair.
B
I'd be happy to. Thank you.
D
And Mike's ALS diagnosis head there right now. I think Olivia's going to tweet it out.
C
So I did. I just.
D
Okay, I'll retweet that. You can go to either of our profiles.
E
Retweet it as well.
B
I'll retweet it as well.
E
I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere. Mainly on X. I do have a special shout out tonight. My good friend Sean Gent. We were grew up across the street from each other. Childhood best friends. He is being promoted to lieutenant colonel of the U.S. air Force. He's currently stationed in Germany and his ceremonies tomorrow. So I just wanted to say really proud of you dude and keep up the good work.
B
Thank you for your service.
A
Yeah, Colonel, it's no joke. I am Phil that remains on Twix. You can check out my Patreon, where I write about a lot of the stuff we talk about here. It's patreon.com filler remains. You can check out the band all that Remains at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and D Geezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. And you should stick around now for the rumble after show.
Date: July 31, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (A)
Panelists: Daniel Turner (B); Olivia (C, community manager); Tate Brown (D); Carter Banks (E)
Main Theme: Hard-hitting, uncensored analysis of a historic migrant influx in Spain, broader conversations about border security, Western decline, geopolitics, energy conflicts, gender, and social cohesion.
This episode dives into reports of a massive migrant surge into Ceuta, a Spanish enclave in North Africa, with Spain deploying its military to control the situation. The panel engages in a wide-ranging conversation covering the political, societal, and historical context of Europe's (and America's) migration crises. Supplementary topics include Middle Eastern geopolitics and energy strategy (with Daniel Turner’s expert commentary), the state of gender issues in sports, and cultural dynamics underlying modern societal challenges.
[00:17–06:25]
Situation: 12,000 an hour, possibly up to 80,000 mostly military-age men, have entered Ceuta from Morocco. The border collapsed, local reception centers overwhelmed; at least nine have died.
Spain has deployed the military; Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez to visit Ceuta.
Media coverage: Videos online show almost exclusively young men, not families or children.
"Every single person seems, because they're not there, seems to be 18 to 26."
– Daniel Turner (B) [05:04]
The panel draws contrasts with the US-Mexico border, noting the scale in Spain is far greater.
Implications for the EU/EU Mobility
Historical and Political Underpinnings
Moroccan context: National “Throne Day” resulted in thousands of royal pardons, possibly triggering the surge.
Spanish policy context: A Supreme Court ruling now requires intercepted sea migrants to have their asylum claims processed, fueling incentives for mass crossings.
Recent amnesty for 1 million temp/undocumented workers in Spain (with family reunification), opening the door to millions more.
"...3 to 4 million third worlders...will become Spanish citizens in due time, granting them access...to the rest of the European Union."
– Tate Brown (D) [08:38]
[10:09–13:39]
Panel debunks: The idea that this is Muslim “reconquista” or civilizational revenge; most are seeking economic opportunity and access to better social programs.
"They want access to white people because white people make nice countries..."
– Tate Brown (D) [10:52]
Process organization is discussed: Speculation over who coordinates such massive movements, “process crimes,” and evidence of complex behind-the-scenes organizers.
"How does a 22-year-old kid in Morocco who probably is illiterate know, hey, I gotta be at this location on this day, at this time because they will get me into Spain?"
– Daniel Turner (B) [14:56]
Panel notes the erosion of traditional institutions (e.g., the Catholic Church), shift in European values, and lack of cohesive national resistance.
[18:55–27:16]
Crime and consequences: Noted increases in violent crime in Europe linked to recent migrant populations; left-wing governments accused of gaslighting and ignoring root causes.
Lack of preparation: Europe dismantled its internal borders at the dawn of the EU, making it practically impossible to control intra-European migration now.
"Now it's like, holy crap, where the hell did our border go? You can't build it back."
– Daniel Turner (B) [23:45]
[34:22–37:08]
Denmark cited as a “white pill” for having effectively reversed its migration problem through pragmatic reforms: deporting welfare abusers, breaking up ethnic enclaves.
"Denmark keeps the...libtards happy with their social programs or whatever, but like, they actually address immigration in a very pragmatic manner."
– Tate Brown (D) [35:27]
[44:18–54:26]
Red Sea Conflict Update: Saudi Arabia preparing for a major offensive against Yemeni Houthis to secure oil shipping routes. Daniel Turner unpacks the stakes for global energy markets.
OPEC dynamics and UAE withdrawal: Frictions over production quotas, attempts to maintain high prices.
"OPEC is just this evil bunch of fat, awful folks that live in Vienna...Why the hell have they get to dictate our terms?"
– Daniel Turner (B) [49:27]
Impact on strategic reserves: Discussion of US oil policy, advisement for personal preparedness, risk of severe shortages following major disruptions.
"...our reserves are in such bad shape...I would go to Home Depot and buy five or six...gas tanks and fill them up."
– Daniel Turner (B) [54:26]
[81:39–91:27]
WNBA controversy: Co-owner suspended after confrontational incident with fans over trans women in sports (Sophie Cunningham controversy).
Panel critiques: The WNBA’s viability, the nature of femininity in sports, cultural resistance to commercialization of women’s athletics, and broader critiques of modern feminism.
"Everything I’ve learned about the WNBA has been against my will."
– Tate Brown (D) [83:50]
"...it doesn’t...the women don’t necessarily need to be better than the men...it’s that candid, feminine beauty that draws people in. And...that is impossible in the WNBA."
– Tate Brown (D) [87:14]
Trans issue in women’s sports: Panel expresses discomfort and critiques the “forced equality” narrative.
Broader criticism of feminist activism: Targeting only elite men and their own fathers, ignoring working-class male contributions to society.
"Feminists...are always talking about rich men and their dad."
– Tim Pool (A) [93:19]
[103:04–106:01]
On societal order:
"Order is the most benevolent thing a government can provide to a society."
– Tate Brown (D) [78:43]
On pragmatic migration policy:
"If you're not paying into the system, how do you possibly benefit from it?"
– Daniel Turner (B) [39:06]
On gender and athleticism:
"When you’re asking women to compete in a sport that is dominated by men and…the male ability is what makes the sport interesting…It’s just…not compelling."
– Daniel Turner (B) [85:22]
On declining fertility rates:
"It turns out that actually if you just believe you have a future in your country, you will have kids. It’s that simple."
– Tate Brown (D) [109:00]
On cultural resilience:
"The problem is, like, every institution that historically safeguarded…the Spanish people…are promoting this [mass migration]. So where are they supposed to go?"
– Tate Brown (D) [16:20]
This discussion detailed the gravity and complexity of Spain's border crisis, bridging it to broader systemic and societal insights about migration, border policy, and Western governance. It wove in the collapse of institutional resistance, the role of bad policy, and the consequences of enforced empathy and open borders. The show zoomed from on-the-ground events in Ceuta to macro trends in global politics, energy, and social cohesion—all in the characteristic Timcast IRL unfiltered style.
The panel balanced expert analysis (particularly around energy and geopolitics with Daniel Turner) with cultural commentary, at times abrasive and candid, especially around migration, gender, and Western decline. The underlying message: Without robust institutions, coherent policies, and a restoration of cultural pride and realism, Western societies risk not only losing control of their borders, but also of their identity and stability.
Panel social media handles and web resources were given during the closing minutes.
End of summary.