India Launches AIR STRIKES On Pakistan, Nuclear War Feared, Trump Calls For QUICK END w/ Amber Duke

Summary

Timcast IRL: India Launches AIR STRIKES On Pakistan, Nuclear War Feared, Trump Calls For QUICK END w/ Amber Duke

Release Date: May 7, 2025

In this intense episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool delves into the escalating tensions between India and Pakistan, the looming threat of nuclear warfare, and the broader implications for global stability. Joined by guests Amber Duke, Libby Emmons, and Phil Labonte, the discussion provides a comprehensive analysis of current geopolitical crises and their potential fallout.

1. Escalation of India-Pakistan Conflict

At [01:00], Tim Pool sets the stage by reporting on the alarming developments between India and Pakistan. He highlights the emergence of airstrikes across Pakistan and Pakistan's claim of downsizing five Indian warplanes, a situation fraught with uncertainty and fear of nuclear escalation.

Tim Pool [01:00]: "Donald Trump has just recently spoken about this, saying that he hopes it ends very, very quickly. But of course, these two nations are nuclear-armed, and that's why there is a concern that this could escalate into nuclear war."

2. The Role of Misinformation and Propaganda

Pool addresses the challenges of verifying real-time information amidst rampant propaganda and fifth-generation warfare. The presence of conflicting reports from both nations complicates the public's ability to discern truth from misinformation.

Tim Pool [01:45]: "We're seeing remarks from both India and Pakistan that they don't want to escalate the situation. However, it has been escalating."

3. Guest Insights on Media Reliability

Amber Duke [04:23] critiques the reliability of sources like Jim Sciuto, who she accuses of spreading misinformation.

Amber Duke [06:53]: "Well, I certainly wouldn't be using Jim Sciuto as a trustworthy source. He was, of course, responsible for that Trump Tower Don Junior story."

Phil Labonte adds to the skepticism, questioning the dependability of information coming from both sides of the conflict.

Phil Labonte [07:13]: "Do you guys have a sense of how reliable the information that's coming out of either side is? I know that they have had a lot of beef in the past, and I've heard that there was a lot of bad blood..."

4. Potential Nuclear War Scenarios

The conversation shifts to hypothetical scenarios of nuclear conflict, referencing a 2019 study by Pakistan predicting a nuclear war in 2025. The guests discuss the catastrophic consequences, including millions of immediate deaths, global climatic effects, and long-term societal collapse.

Tim Pool [17:44]: "Both countries possess around 250 nuclear weapons each. The researchers warn, catastrophic consequences, 50 to 125 million immediate deaths, depending on weapon yield."

Amber Duke [19:22] provides a reality check on the actual number of nuclear weapons, citing the Arms Control Association.

Amber Duke [19:22]: "India has 172 and Pakistan has 170, for a total of 342. So not quite..."

5. Nuclear Survival Strategies

By [30:40], the discussion moves to practical steps for surviving a nuclear attack, referencing past public service announcements like New York's PSA on nuclear survival.

Tim Cast [30:40]: "There are three important steps that I want you to remember... Step one, get inside fast. Step two, stay inside. Step three, follow media for more information."

The guests debate the effectiveness of such measures and share personal anecdotes about public preparedness.

6. US-Canada Relations and Mock War Talk

A significant portion of the episode humorously explores the unlikely notion of the US going to war with Canada. Phil Labonte [04:35] dismisses the idea, emphasizing Canada's lack of war-making capacity against the United States.

Phil Labonte [04:35]: "It's a clown show. Canada does not have the capacity to defend against the United States at all."

The conversation teeters between satire and genuine concern, with guests like Amber Duke and Libby Emmons engaging in playful banter about the feasibility and absurdity of such a conflict.

7. Broader Global Conflicts and Concerns

Tim Pool broadens the scope to include other global hotspots, mentioning conflicts involving Israel, Yemen, Russia, Ukraine, China, and Taiwan. The overarching theme is the increasing number of simultaneous global conflicts and the strain they place on international relations and global peace.

Tim Pool [09:21]: "We've got this image apparently of some of these strikes and we have Jim Shudo... we're dealing with propaganda, fifth generational warfare."

8. Internal US Politics and Generational Divides

Towards the end of the episode, the discussion shifts inward to address internal US politics, focusing on generational divides. The guests examine how different generations perceive and are affected by policies and political rhetoric, particularly in the context of economic challenges and social issues.

Libby Emmons [79:12]: "Boomers are the only demographic in the US where Trump is in negative numbers and boomers are actually who delivered Canada for Carney as well."

Conclusion

The episode concludes with a blend of serious analysis and light-hearted commentary, reflecting on the complexities of modern warfare, media reliability, and political dynamics. Tim Pool encourages listeners to stay informed and engage in critical discussions, emphasizing the importance of understanding the multifaceted nature of global conflicts and domestic issues.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Pool [01:00]: "They're retaliating... This could get serious."
• Amber Duke [06:53]: "Jim Sciuto is probably off of that list [trustworthy sources]."
• Phil Labonte [07:13]: "Do you guys have a sense of how reliable the information that's coming out of either side is?"
• Tim Cast [17:44]: "Catastrophic consequences, 50 to 125 million immediate deaths."
• Amber Duke [19:22]: "It's not bad... not quite."

This episode serves as a critical examination of the volatile situation between India and Pakistan, the pervasive influence of misinformation, and the interconnectedness of global conflicts. Through insightful dialogue and expert guest perspectives, Timcast IRL provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the precarious state of international relations and the potential pathways to both conflict and resolution.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Cast]

Appears that we may have full blown war between India and Pakistan breaking out right now with both sides basically saying that this is war. They're retaliating. You've got images of airstrikes emerging all across social media and pro India side saying it's all fake news coming out of Pakistan. Welcome to the fifth generational warfare aspect of this. Some people are arguing that the claims coming out of Pakistan are fake. The claims coming out of India are fake. We're have to break this down because there's a lot of information. Donald Trump has just recently spoken about this, saying that he hope it ends very, very quickly. But of course these two nations are nuclear armed and that's why there is a concern that this could escalate into nuclear war. I'm going to say right off the bat, I personally don't think it goes that far. I do have concerns personally once again with the conflict between Israel and the Houthis. Now with these strikes going back and forth. Iran of course China and Taiwan could break out. Russia is launching ballistic missile strikes in Ukraine. War is breaking out all across this planet, all over this planet. And so it is pretty worrying. But I am not just saying nuclear war fears. No, quite literally we've got an article where they're trying, they're telling you how to survive a nuclear war. All of these news outlets are saying, hey look, you've got two nuclear powered nations. This could get serious. So we'll talk about that. And that is the the principal news. However, I want to give a shout out to Stephen Marsh who appeared on MSNBC warning that the US may go to war with Canada.

[Phil Labonte]

Clown show.

[Tim Cast]

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[Amber Duke]

Hi everybody. I'm Amber Duke. I'm the senior editor for the Daily Caller, the co host of the Hills Rising and co host of Free Media at Reason. Check me out on X at Amber Marie Duke.

[Tim Cast]

Thanks for hanging out. Libby's here too.

[Libby Emmons]

Libby, I'm hanging out too. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm with the post millennial and humanevents.com. glad to be here.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Cast]

Well, we'll just start right away with the statement from President Trump responding to the operation, saying that he hope it ends very quickly. He says, you know, they've been fighting for many, many decades and centuries actually, if you really think about it. I just hope it ends very quickly. We have a ton of crazy images and videos coming out. Several dead, including children, as India launches airstrikes on terrorist camps inside Pakistan. Islamabad says at least two warplanes were shot down. Latest update, if I can, we've got a live tracker right here and I believe I may have to search for it because so much is. Look at this. Pakistan's Defense Minister Asif Asif said on Bloomberg TV that Pakistan shot down five Indian planes and has taken some Indian soldiers prisoner. There was no immediate response from the Indian government outside of business hours. So this is happening in real time. Of course, both of these nations have nuclear weapons, so everybody's freaking out. This may escalate. Pakistan's defense minister comments were quite notable. There's a lot we don't yet know about the military action, but we're seeing remarks from both India and Pakistan that they don't want to escalate the situation. However, it has been escalating. They go on. This is Janet Rodriguez for Bloomberg saying we don't have confirmation yet from India. Two Pakistan statement about downing five Indian planes. The last time the two countries had a similar conflict was in 2019 when India had struck what it said were terrorist camps after an attack it blamed on Pakistan. At the time, Pakistan had taken one Indian Air Force pilot prisoner and released him soon after. So there's a lot going on right now. We've got videos here. Airspace is closed. Markets are shaken. India, Pakistan tension surge. We've got this image apparently of some of these strikes and we have Jim Shudo. The reason I bring this up is he initially reported the two planes being down at 6pm however, this is not an official community note that you're seeing. They're arguing. In fact, it's an it's fake. But the challenge we have right now is propaganda, fifth generational warfare. So we don't know what's true and what's not.

[Amber Duke]

Well, I certainly wouldn't be using Jim Sciuto as the trustworthy source. He was, of course responsible for that Trump Tower Don junior Story. So it's going to be definitely difficult, I think, to find out which journalists are actually reporting accurate information, but I would say Jim Sciuto is probably off of that list.

[Phil Labonte]

Do you guys have a sense of how reliable the information that's coming out of either side is? I. I know that they have had a lot of beef in the past, and I've heard that there was a lot of bad blood because one of them maybe. I don't know how many years ago, but in the past 10 years or so, one of them shot the other plane, the other. Another one of their other country. Country's planes down. And so the. The beef is. Is still ongoing. But you. They're not reliable because the, you know, India says it didn't happen, Pakistan says it did. And that's. Do you guys have any sense of what kind of reliable information there is?

[Amber Duke]

No. And I think there's claims of questionability on both sides. And if you're referring to the 2019 incident. So what happened was there was a similar situation where there was an alleged terror attack by Pakistan on India. India responded with a strike. Pakistan responded by shooting down a Pakistani fighter plane, taking the pilot hostage. And basically the conflict settled down after Pakistan agreed to return the pilot to India. So it's possible we see another quick resolution. There's been skirmishes between these two countries for a very long time, for decades. But the last war, I believe, was in 1998. So 98 or 99, which was coincidentally the same year that Pakistan became a nuclear power.

[Tim Cast]

Indeed. And they didn't use them. So hopefully this just becomes a flash in the pan. We do have some videos. Daily Mail has these videos posted. I don't know how much we actually can play because there's a lot of graphic images that are coming out. We can just see these appear to be airstrikes going off in. In Pakistan and. Oh, boy. So we've got Israel and Yemen. We've got Russia, Ukraine. We've got potentially China and Taiwan. Yeah, you've got Iran and Israel as well. Iran and Israel and Gaza. Israel and Lebanon. Yikes. Israel's certainly the center of a lot of war in the Middle East. I guess the fear is. You know, Phil, you were saying this. I think you were saying this before the show. That was it. You saying China might take this opportunity?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, there. There is border issues between China and India, if I understand correctly.

[Tim Cast]

Well.

[Amber Duke]

And China is ostensibly aligned with Pakistan in the fight over Kashmir.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

So that would be the concern is if China decides to get involved.

[Phil Labonte]

So, I mean, I don't. I personally don't. And this is just. This is just My gut feeling, it's not like I have some kind of deep knowledge of China, Pakistan and India, but I don't think that China would do it. But again, I'm just, you know, a dude that talks on the Internet, so I. What do I know? You know? And the reason I think they wouldn't is because the, because of the fact that the US Is ostensibly aligned with both of them. And so that would put tension with the US And China. And considering the tariff war right now, I. Or the trade war right now, I feel like China doesn't want to escalate tensions even though they're going to talk big. You can hear a lot of, you know, stuff coming out of China that's, that's kind of smuggled out information. Smuggled out where? China's having a rough go of the tariff war. And so I don't think that they want to escalate it in any kind of fashion.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. And the administration spoke to both India and Pakistan a couple of weeks ago. Shortly after that terror attack took place, Secretary of State Marco Rubio called the. The Pakistani Prime Minister as well as the IS or the Indian Affairs Minister and basically was like, hey, I feel bad for you guys. This was a horrible attack, but please don't escalate this any further. The readout from the call said he encouraged India to work with Pakistan to deescalate tensions and maintain peace and security.

[Tim Cast]

Rubio did put out a tweet just a few minutes ago saying, I am monitoring the situation between India and Pakistan closely. I echo POTUS's comments earlier today that this hopefully ends quickly and will continue to engage both India and Pakistan leadership towards a peaceful resolution. Yeah, here's hoping. This is what I find this to be. One of the more interesting elements of this modern warfare era. RV CJ Media.

[Libby Emmons]

What is that?

[Tim Cast]

Which is India's largest digital publisher, they say with 1 million followers on X. They said Operation Sindor is successful with this image saying Pakistan's media continues to spread misinformation about the attack to mislead their people in the world. India stands by facts, not fiction. We urge everyone to trust verified sources and not fall for propaganda. The truth is clear. India acted in self defense and with precision. Oh yeah. You know, I just want to say probably the stupidest thing you could post.

[Libby Emmons]

On X. Yeah, it's not super.

[Tim Cast]

You're convincing no one. I don't understand the purpose of coming out and being like, here's a image with a link to our. It's got. It's got the Google play icon on it and all their socials saying, don't believe the facts. I'm sorry. Don't believe the lies.

[Amber Duke]

It's definitely giving graphic. Graphic design is my passion.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not Comic Sans, but it's real.

[Tim Cast]

Close. But the. Don't, don't fall for propaganda. Here's an image we made to tell you that we're correct. Oh, I'm gonna believe that.

[Amber Duke]

It does kind of give like Israel, Palestine vibes.

[Tim Cast]

Which side of are we supposed to be on? I don't know.

[Libby Emmons]

I have no idea.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm on the United States side.

[Amber Duke]

I don't really care.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I don't want to see. I don't want to see this drag out. I don't want to see them use nuclear weapons. Otherwise I don't really care if they're fighting.

[Amber Duke]

Honestly, they've been fighting forever since, since the, since Kashmir was first declared independent in what, like 1947?

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, that's like that. It was a British colony, right? Yeah, I, yeah. My main thought about all of this is I'm glad that we're, you know, doing a lot of defense spending and planning to rebuild our military.

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[Libby Emmons]

Make friends with Canada and Mexico and let's.

[Tim Cast]

You know, the US initially was on the side of Pakistan in that India was closer to the Soviet Union. I mean, I did a quick Google search, so take this with grain of salt, but now, obviously, especially with Donald Trump, the US's relations are much closer in ties with. With India, so.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, And Trump and Modi are pretty close.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, India and the US should be friends. I mean, we have similar backstories in terms of British colonization.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

That'S the standard. There's a lot of people we should be friends with.

[Tim Cast]

I was like.

[Libby Emmons]

I was like floating that take to see what would happen. I don't even know if I think it.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think you do. I really don't.

[Amber Duke]

Be us posting in real life. Love it.

[Libby Emmons]

Right? Why not go for it?

[Phil Labonte]

Testing the waters.

[Tim Cast]

I mean, India, as far as I know, is not a sanitary country. But am I wrong?

[Libby Emmons]

No, you're not. In fact, I was, I. I accidentally was watching a bit of a TED talk today that was like, scrolling on Twitter. When I forgot to turn off the video I was looking at, and it was this woman, this Indian woman, who was giving a talk about how the most open defecation in the world is actually in rural India. Like more than half what the world's open defecation.

[Phil Labonte]

That may be true, but the fact of the matter is another reason.

[Amber Duke]

San Francisco. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

See, look at that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, look at me now, Amber.

[Phil Labonte]

We haven't been attacked by Indians in a long, long time. You know, Pakistan's got some people that don't like Americans. They were hiding bin Laden.

[Amber Duke]

You know, they definitely don't try to kill you if you're not Hindu. So there's that.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, that's. That's true.

[Tim Cast]

What's that? There's. There's an island nation where the people go into the water to do their business. And there's so much accumulating outside the island that it's poisoning the small aquifer and killing all the fish.

[Libby Emmons]

That's a terrible idea.

[Tim Cast]

Where?

[Phil Labonte]

Manhattan?

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, that's terrible.

[Tim Cast]

I don't know. That sounds more Like California.

[Phil Labonte]

Fair enough.

[Tim Cast]

So the fears here. This is interesting. This story from Economic Times India. Times India. Pakistan WORE A chilling 2019 study, had predicted a nuclear war in 2025. And what could happen? They said the tensions between India and Pakistan have sharply escalated. We get it. It's all happening right now. In Jammu and Kashmir's polygraph polygon last month. I'm pronouncing it wrong. They say researchers theorize that a major terror attack, initially imagined as an assault on the Indian Parliament, would provoke India to mobilize troops along the line of control, prompting Pakistan to respond in kind. As tensions boil over, skirmishes and casualties on both sides would lead to a rapid escalation, which is kind of what we're seeing, sort of. However, they go on to say, day one, Pakistan uses 10 tactical nuclear weapons, each with a yield of 5 kilotons within its own borders, against Indian tanks. Yet not happened.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, the, the strategy, if I understand correctly, is Pakistan has threatened if, if the, if India invades, Pakistan will use nuclear weapons inside its own border. And India has said, if you use nuclear weapons on our troops in your own border, we will still consider that a nuclear strike and we will retaliate with nuclear weapons.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. So India has a first use policy, although in 2019 they were kind of waffling on whether or not they were going to stick to that. Plus, also, like, do you trust government? I don't.

[Tim Cast]

Well, to be fair, it says, according to the study, once Indian forces begin advancing into Pakistani territory, Pakistan's generals, fearing a conventional defeat, resort to nuclear weapons. They say by day two, Pakistan launches 15 more tactical nukes. In response, India uses 20 strategic nuclear air bursts targeting Pakistani military installations and nuclear depots. Rather than halting the war, India's escalation prompts a deadly third day. Pakistan responds with 30 air bursts over Indian garrisons, naval bases. India retaliates. Global fallout swimming. Both countries possess around 250 nuclear weapons each. The researchers warn, catastrophic consequences, 50 to 125 million immediate deaths, depending on weapon yield. Major Indian and Pakistani cities will be completely destroyed or rendered uninhabitable. Healthcare, transportation, energy and finance would be in ruins. But the devastation wouldn't stop there. The climatic effects of the smoke and firestorms would impact the entire planet, potentially triggering famines that could affect billions. Ramifications would be enormous and global in scope.

[Amber Duke]

Well, the good news is, although this, that there's still a lot of nukes that the two countries have, it's not 250 apiece, according to the Arms Control Association. India has 172 and Pakistan has 170, for a total of 342. So not quite. We're not quite at the level that the study predicted, which is good news.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, if they both. If they let. If they, you know, lit off 200 nukes between the two of them, it.

[Amber Duke]

Would still be very bad. No, I'm definitely. I am in agreement with that. I'm just saying the study maybe is not as. As.

[Tim Cast]

No, no. It says Both countries possess 250. They. I think they mean in total.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, together.

[Amber Duke]

It says each. 250 each.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, you're right. You're right. I am incorrect. Because I'm. I'm looking at the numbers and I'm like, based on the numbers you gave, that's like 250. Or do you. What did you say?

[Amber Duke]

342. 342 collectively. Oh, it's like 170 a piece.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Amber Duke]

So it's still very high, but it's not quite there.

[Tim Cast]

Unless they have more now than what's been reported. Great.

[Amber Duke]

This is supposed to be an up to date count, but what do I know? I'm not.

[Phil Labonte]

You guys have any sense of what they're like? I know that Pakistan's mostly Muslim. I know that India is mostly Hindu, but do you guys know, like, do you under. Do you have any. Any sense of, like, what the Hindus like? Do Hindus value life the way that, like, Westerners do? Because in Islam, there. There's a whole lot of like, well, if we're at war, everybody that dies goes to heaven because it's jihad. So, you know, they. They. They tend to have a. A different, you know, outlook on human life than Westerners do. You know, do you feel this? Did you guys know anything about how Hinduism.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't know much about Hinduism. I know, like, don't they believe in reincarnation?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, do y'all Bugs? What do you know? Serge, you got to know something.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, I mean, I lived in Singapore for a while. Hindu friends in high school. I know that in Hindus and Pakistanis or like, Indians, Bakis do not like each other. Yeah, they haven't liked others for a long time since, like, the partition in 47. Tim's looking at videos right here. But, I mean, I don't know. They definitely don't want to die. They don't. Like, reincarnation isn't like that. Like, you have to be, like, good in your life. Work off your dharma. Right? You have to be working off dharma if you're not doing that. And you're just being a bad person altogether. It's not going to go well for you just to reincarnate. It's not like the Japanese idea. As long as you die for the. For the emperor, you're. You're good. No, it's way more different. That's a lot deeper than that. It's interesting. So this. This video everybody is sharing, saying that it is of the strikes. I've seen this in news articles. However, the proposed community note cites Grok saying it's from Gaza, not India, Pakistan.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, that's back to this whole thing you remember, like, every time something happens, this is something I always.

[Tim Cast]

Wait, wait. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Look at it. Also says no evidence supports claims of recent airstrikes between India and Pakistan. Okay, Grok, you're drunk.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, there's been this whole thing about AI Chatbot hallucinations. You've seen about that, where it's like the chatbot just keeps getting things wrong, and the more they try to fix it, the more it screws up.

[Tim Cast]

Did you see the video where they put the rock in to ChatGPT 100 times?

[Phil Labonte]

No, they put what in?

[Tim Cast]

They put a picture of the rock into ChatGPT and said, Remake this image.

[Amber Duke]

With no changes, and it turned into like a. Like a minstrel show.

[Libby Emmons]

I saw that. I actually saw that, but with a different. With. With like a different lady. Like some lady. They did that too, and it just changed. It changed from like a thin white lady with curly hair to like, an overweight black woman with an Afro.

[Amber Duke]

Well, you can't have.

[Libby Emmons]

It's like a game of telephone with.

[Tim Cast]

So I'm. I'm pretty sure this is. This is a video from. From the airstrikes that we're seeing. I don't know if this. No idea. I don't know. We'll try and fact check that one.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, the thing is, like, as. After. I don't know if you find this, Amber, but, like, as soon as something happens, you have, like, maybe 24 hours to get a sense of what's going on. And after that, it's just all fog of war. It's, like, totally hard to figure anything out after that if you don't speak the language of the place.

[Tim Cast]

There's a couple challenges, especially with social media. We're going to be slammed by a bunch of fake videos. And then the problem is tomorrow it'll be. I'll be propaganda.

[Libby Emmons]

Mm. Exactly. That's like what happened with Israel and Gaza in the first place. It's like October 7th, you could figure out what was going on. You could look at it October 8th, you could look at it by October 10th. It's confusing. Same thing with Ukraine and Russia.

[Amber Duke]

Ukraine and Russia, Ghost of Kyiv and all that.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, like that, that whole ship thing. Yeah, it was all ludicrous. You have no idea what's going on. That's why I think local reporting from these places is important. But.

[Amber Duke]

But then you don't know.

[Libby Emmons]

Have a free press.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't know what they're feeding you either.

[Amber Duke]

And even so, like, even if they do have a free press, you don't know if those local journalists are trustworthy. I mean, really, the only way to be a hundred percent sure is to have an outlet that you trust who has a reporter on the ground.

[Libby Emmons]

That's what is so infuriating about the incessant wokeness of the New York Times, AP and Reuters. Right. Like, these were the outlets that were supposed to go around the world and be like, okay, guys, this is what I have gleaned.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And instead it. And they have the resources and they're out there doing it, and instead they're sending us back all this nonsense.

[Amber Duke]

You had the trust their war reporters anymore.

[Tim Cast]

Right.

[Amber Duke]

You had the Clarissa Ward in Ukraine, like, hiding in a bunker and people are just walking around next to her.

[Libby Emmons]

Or like the AP and. Yeah. Or the AP in the same building as Hamas.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

In Gaza. And like, being pals with those guys, like, this is why free independent reporting is so important and why I personally get so angry at the big outlets and all their resources that got Trump deranged and lost it all. Yeah. Infuriating.

[Tim Cast]

There are a lot of fake videos being circulated, so it's hard to. It's hard to sort through.

[Amber Duke]

I mean, the other element of this that we haven't really talked about is the retaliatory strike from India they claim was on terrorist infrastructure and was highly targeted. And Pakistan is claiming that it wasn't, obviously, that they were hitting mosques or sort of indiscriminately bombing citizens. So that's another claim that needs to be sussed out.

[Phil Labonte]

It seems like Muslims say everybody's hitting mosques. Like, according to Muslims, I think this is what you see. It's what you see a lot. They.

[Amber Duke]

It's like, also, are you training terrorists in the mosque? Like, because that might be an oversimplification.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, man, I'm not saying.

[Amber Duke]

Are you training terrorists? Are you holding terrorists in the school?

[Phil Labonte]

Like, I'm not saying. I'm just saying.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, well, what we often get from not just any particular group, but largely from the left, is to weaponize your goodwill against you. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah, totally.

[Tim Cast]

When they say, oh, you're bombing schools and hospitals and, oh, the children, and then you find out that they're putting children there intentionally.

[Amber Duke]

Toxic empathy.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. And escalating the war intentionally, but trying to trick us into either not getting involved or being on their side. The one thing I think everyone's got to be very wary of. Did you guys see Happy Payday? They called it on X.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Libby Emmons]

No.

[Tim Cast]

When the payout day happened on X, which everybody gets their money, a whole bunch of Indian accounts started tweeting at each other saying, happy Payday.

[Amber Duke]

Yes.

[Tim Cast]

And they all run these. The. The most prolific users of X right now are like, India. Are like India and Turkey or whatever. And you look up their accounts and all they do is tweet every second. And what's happening is they have a big network where they all respond to each other. So they just run a bunch of different accounts and they all respond to each other and game the system and pull money out of the advertising, sending it to them.

[Amber Duke]

It's just content farming. And I'm going to take this totally off topic for a second, but I think it kind of folds in with the tariff conversation that's been happening right now. One of the underreported parts of it is that there are a lot of countries that have tariffs on digital services. So if you are a content creator in the United States and you make an Instagram reel and you're getting bonus money off of it if you operate in Canada or your video gets shared in Canada.

[Tim Pool]

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[Amber Duke]

Canada actually has a tariff on the money that's made off of that content. And so a portion of the revenue goes to paying that tariff. So the US has basically been losing potential tax revenue from like Instagram and Facebook and all of these social media companies through digital services tariffs. It's really fascinating, actually. I don't know if India has that, but maybe they do.

[Tim Cast]

Well, my friends, fear not. We have this from msn.com India, Pakistan war, how to survive a nuclear attack. We got you covered. We here at Tim Cast IRA are going to make sure that you all know exactly what you need to do if nuclear war starts. But don't take my word for it. Let's throw it to our good friends over at MSN and the Economic Times. They wrote India is set to conduct mock drills in over 200 cities amid rising tensions with Pakistan following the. How do you pronounce that? Pahalgam?

[Amber Duke]

As good of a guess as I could have had.

[Tim Cast]

Terror attack, you say? The other measures are provisions for crash blackout measures, early camouflaging of vital plants and installations, and updating and rehearsing evacuation plans. The mock drills also include the operate operationalization of hotline and radio communications links with the Indian Air Force, testing the functionality of control rooms and shadow control rooms. Now, before I read exactly what you do in a nuclear attack, do you guys remember when New York put that PSA out?

[Libby Emmons]

No.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, you remember that one? Let me pull that one up.

[Phil Labonte]

They were talking about how to survive a nuclear attack.

[Amber Duke]

I remember the Hawaii bomb shelters when everyone was freaking out that North Korea was gonna launch missiles.

[Phil Labonte]

Big mess up.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, CNN sent Sarah Snyder over there and she was like, hiding in the missile. The missile dungeon.

[Phil Labonte]

That was a big whoopsie.

[Tim Cast]

The New York Times called it inside the making of NYC's bizarre, bizarre nuclear war PSA city officials released a video in July, how to survive a nuclear attack.

[Libby Emmons]

And what year was that?

[Tim Cast]

2022.

[Amber Duke]

I don't remember this.

[Libby Emmons]

Me neither.

[Tim Cast]

You don't remember this one? Yeah, we were all like, what's going on? And this is when the war was starting, I think with or a few months after.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that was February. Don't ask me how or why. Just know that the big one has hit.

[Amber Duke]

Okay, so what do we do?

[Tim Cast]

There are three important steps that I.

[Libby Emmons]

Want you to remember.

[Amber Duke]

Step one, get inside fast. You, your friends, your family, get inside.

[Libby Emmons]

And no, staying in the car is not an option.

[Tim Cast]

You need to get into a building and move away from the windows. Step two, stay inside.

[Amber Duke]

Shut all doors in one, have a basement.

[Tim Cast]

Head there if you don't have one. Get as far into the middle of the building as possible. If you were outside after the blast, get clean immediately. Remove and bag all outer clothing to.

[Libby Emmons]

Keep radioactive dust or ash away from your body.

[Tim Cast]

Step three.

[Libby Emmons]

Stay tuned.

[Tim Cast]

Follow media for more information. Don't forget to sign up for Notify NYC for official alerts and updates.

[Amber Duke]

And don't go outside until officials say it's safe.

[Tim Cast]

You told us that already, lady.

[Libby Emmons]

All right, look, that's crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

A nuclear attack on.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. And everybody was like, what's not.

[Libby Emmons]

What's gonna happen?

[Tim Cast]

What's going on?

[Libby Emmons]

Basically, instead, everybody's dead.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Well, I mean, I, I don't think that India is going to nuke us. No.

[Libby Emmons]

No. I think they don't have the reach.

[Phil Labonte]

Just in the context of the, of that PSA, they don't have ICB. Well, they might possibly have ICBMs.

[Tim Cast]

They.

[Phil Labonte]

They did send a, A probe to the moon.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, if, if they definitely do. So if they, if they can get to the moon, they can get to the other side of the planet.

[Libby Emmons]

This is why we need that. What is it? The, the platinum dome that Trump was The Agni golden dome. Yes.

[Tim Cast]

It's got a 5000 platinum. They say its official range is 5, 000 kilometers. Oh, so it can't reach us. And some estimates put to seven to 8,000. Yeah, we're good.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, I'm into the idea. Oh, they got mervs having actual, like, missile defense system.

[Libby Emmons]

I like a missile defense.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, I'm into that especially considering nowadays missile technology is not as exclusive as it used to be. Countries like India, Pakistan, you know, you've had multiple countries send probes to the moon.

[Libby Emmons]

Now, sure, everyone's got a bunch of satellites.

[Phil Labonte]

So if you can, if you can get a probe to the moon, you can get a warhead to the other side of the planet, you know?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So the, the oceans no longer isolate us the way they did, you know, 50 years ago. So I'm all for missile defense.

[Amber Duke]

I have iodine pills.

[Phil Labonte]

I do too.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, but those.

[Amber Duke]

Realistically, if nuke hits dc, I think I'm done for the iodine tablets just outside.

[Tim Cast]

That's just for the, the particles that might get in your skin and go on your thyroid.

[Amber Duke]

It's for radiation treatment.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, but it doesn't. It doesn't treat radiation. It fills your thyroid so that you don't absorb iodine. 131. Specifically, people think iodine. What is it?

[Libby Emmons]

What are you supposed to do with them then? If you have iodine tablets.

[Tim Cast]

So the reason they sell out is because people are concerned about. I believe It's. I done 131. When you ingest it, it goes into your thyroid and it's emitting radiation, and so it's going to damage your thyroid. So if you, if you take iodine, your body will reject any radioactive iodine going into your body. But people believe that the iodine pills are going to protect them from radiation.

[Amber Duke]

I definitely don't believe that.

[Phil Labonte]

What you. What you need to get is an.

[Tim Cast]

Avon potassium iodine, I think, mask.

[Amber Duke]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Because that way you don't breathe in the. Breathe in the particles that are radioactive.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, Yeah. I kind of just think, like, if it's that I'm. I'm like 30 minutes out of D.C. at that point, I just hope it kills me.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I don't want.

[Amber Duke]

I don't know. I don't want my skin sloughing off.

[Libby Emmons]

You know, that sounds like it would be really unpleasant.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, that's what my dad used to tell me when I was a kid.

[Libby Emmons]

Your skin's gonna slough off.

[Tim Cast]

He would say, if you saw a nuclear bomb coming right down, what do you do? And I was like, ron, he goes, which way? And I was like, away.

[Libby Emmons]

He's like, no, run toward it.

[Tim Cast]

Well, the point he was making. It's like a funny thing to tell, like a little kid. The. The point he's making is there's the immediate vaporization radius and then there's the. Your skin schloss off.

[Amber Duke]

Exactly.

[Tim Cast]

You don't want to be in that.

[Amber Duke]

You either need to be close enough to die immediately or far enough away where you could, like, ostensibly survive with just like, sunburns.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

But it depends on the type of hit. Depends on. On, you know, where. Whether it's an airburst, how far. How far up it is, and a lot of things. But if it does. If you are far enough away where it doesn't burn, burn you to a crisp, you do need to make sure that you're not breathing in particles. That's what I get in that they get into your lungs and they don't come out, and they're radioactive, and then you. You get cancer and.

[Amber Duke]

Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, your. Your lungs just stop working and get all kinds of tumors, and that's horrible.

[Tim Cast]

Did you guys see that. That woman on Tucker Carlson show where she said that the US Government built underground cities that are networked with each other?

[Libby Emmons]

I did see that.

[Tim Cast]

And she was like, whether it's. It's like Some kind of extinction event.

[Libby Emmons]

FEMA camp thing that everyone was.

[Tim Cast]

I don't know if it's the. I don't think it's the fema. No, no, totally different.

[Libby Emmons]

Like the underground, there was like all networks.

[Tim Cast]

The FEMA camp thing is they started reappearing, reappropriating old like manufacturing hubs and putting barbed wire around them. And people were like, what are they going to do with those? This lady is talking about underground cities that are networked by trains that exist. It costs like $21 trillion, which I totally believe.

[Libby Emmons]

But why. So here's what I don't understand. Whenever you hear these kinds of ideas, right. Why aren't more people talking about it? Like, it's hard to keep a secret. It's legit. Not easy to like keep your mouth shut. And if you're building underground cities that cost $21 trillion, like you have to put out contracts for that. There have to be like the people who are cleaning the bathroom. How, like how many people are really being quieted about these things? Why is it, why is, how is it possible to keep a secret, a 21 trillion dollar secret?

[Amber Duke]

And do we really think the, the working class, anti elite laborers on that project are going to keep their mouth shut?

[Libby Emmons]

That's what I'm thinking. Unless like somebody's got to paint the thing.

[Tim Cast]

Unless you can't leave.

[Amber Duke]

So kill you.

[Tim Cast]

No, no. You just live there.

[Libby Emmons]

So are these illegal immigrants? Are we like shipping them in?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, they never speak English. Never could speak English. Send them out when they're right.

[Tim Cast]

A man who worked on only speaks Spanish and he's running up to a random American and they can't understand his garbled gibberish. They just don't know what he's saying.

[Libby Emmons]

And Trump's just going to deport them all. If you escape, you're deported.

[Tim Cast]

That's why he's deporting all these. They helped build the underground cities.

[Phil Labonte]

That's right.

[Tim Cast]

I do think the US probably has underground. They're called dumbs, deep underground military bases. Underground city is probably an exaggeration, but why wouldn't they? And you think the US is going to be like, we've got the world's biggest.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, where's the contract? Like there must be contracts.

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Tim Cast]

There's tons of top secret contracts, classified information they don't tell you about.

[Libby Emmons]

I feel like some of this stuff would leak out better than just some late. It did occur.

[Tim Cast]

She's a former Bush administration official who said. But she actually cited a few other people who did research in the American finances and found similarly that this money was missing. And the amount of money missing has actually been since the money was unaccounted for. And I think there's like a Pentagon budget that was unaccounted for. People have been asking about this, and this is the narrative they're giving. I don't know if it's true.

[Libby Emmons]

Maybe Doge needs involved. Track down.

[Tim Cast]

We know. We know about Raven Rock and Mount Weather. Those are real places. Do you know about those? Those are the congressional and presidential bunkers.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Cast]

They're very close to us.

[Libby Emmons]

They had names.

[Amber Duke]

Yep.

[Tim Cast]

Mount Weather. And they recently went. They underwent an expansion and a. What did they do? Like, they upgraded it and stuff. So do you think that they're going to just announce to the whole world this is where Congress goes if you attack us?

[Libby Emmons]

No, I just. I just. I mean, if. If people are that capable of keeping secrets like. That's impressive.

[Tim Cast]

Manhattan Project.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, but we know about that now.

[Tim Cast]

We didn't when they did it. It wasn't until they. We bombed Japan. They were like, the government said, okay, we're going to Release the information. 350,000 people working on nuclear bombs and nobody knew what they were building.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but we didn't have the communications thing and people trusted the government. Like, nowadays, everybody's like, yeah, okay, Uncle Jed. Okay, they know. Whatever. They don't. People just don't believe they're the conspiracy theories because there's. We're inundated with conspiracy theories now.

[Tim Cast]

I'm. I wonder. But I have to imagine an excavation team is not going to be relatively large. Let's just say it's 300 people and.

[Libby Emmons]

Maybe they're told what they're doing. That's a. That's a very good point.

[Tim Cast]

Right. A lot of them work on the surface and then leave and say, I don't know, I did a government contract. And they don't think twice. And then a small handful do the deeper excavation and it's big machinery, not very many crews, and they don't. They don't think twice. And then all of the, the re. All the manufacturing for parts and everything just shipped in like normal.

[Phil Labonte]

Everybody knows about norad, and that's essentially an underground military.

[Tim Cast]

Pretty sure that's gone now, though.

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe.

[Tim Cast]

But then they, like, recommissioned. Like they moved.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but the. I mean, the installation's still there and it was active in the 80s and 90s, if I understand.

[Tim Cast]

I think the issue is largely that they don't want you to know where they're going to be. Hey, let's take a look at this map. Just, just. If you guys were wondering.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh yeah.

[Tim Cast]

If the largest nuclear warhead that India has detonated in the financial district of New York. That's the radius.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, my old neighborhood would still be fine.

[Tim Cast]

I wonder if they have the.

[Phil Labonte]

We don't mind is a relative.

[Libby Emmons]

It's a relative term in this context.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, I don't think they have the. What, what is it? The Poke Run 2 and the Shock T2 45 kilotons. Although India claims the test validated designs for weapons with yields up to 200 kilotons. Okay, let's just go 200 kilotons detonate. Okay. So that's a.

[Phil Labonte]

King kiloton's crazy.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

There we go.

[Tim Cast]

Hobokins.

[Libby Emmons]

My whole neighborhood. Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. And then like this gray area is the shock wave, the light. Light blast damage, radiation radius. Okay. So the good news is everybody in the fireball radius, you cease to exist in an instant.

[Amber Duke]

Perfect.

[Libby Emmons]

They don't have to worry about it.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. And then the thermal radiation is when you get third degree burns and some people live.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. See that's. I don't want.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't want to be.

[Amber Duke]

You definitely don't want to be in that.

[Libby Emmons]

You don't want to live.

[Amber Duke]

I mean the other problem.

[Tim Cast]

Look how big that waves is.

[Amber Duke]

You could get crushed by falling debris and buildings knocked over.

[Tim Cast]

The moderate blast damage radius at 5 psi overpressure. The residential buildings collapse. Injuries are universal. Fatalities are widespread. The chances of a fire starting in commercial residential damage are high. Buildings so damaged or at high risk of spreading fire. Often uses a benchmark for moderate damage in cities. But you know what's funny is that's actually like nothing. If we were to use. We don't want to do that. We want to do this.

[Amber Duke]

It'd also probably be more like. These are killing patent I would guess.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Kilotons Castle Bravo. The largest US bomb ever tested. Kaboom.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Holy dang rap. That's quite a. That's quite what radius.

[Phil Labonte]

And that's just the. The largest that the US did the Sara Bomba, which was 50 megatons. Megatons. Russia largest one ever. And they designed one twice as powerful. They designed the Sarabamba. Was.

[Libby Emmons]

Do they have it?

[Tim Cast]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know if they do it.

[Tim Cast]

It's a gravity bomb though. Meaning they drop it from a plane.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay.

[Amber Duke]

And the put that in California.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, let's do that.

[Tim Cast]

Let's see la.

[Amber Duke]

Sure.

[Tim Cast]

So I guess if you're Just outside a Thousand Oaks. You'll be okay, Oxnerd. You're gonna survive. You're good.

[Phil Labonte]

Good. Green.

[Tim Cast]

We move the. If they target la, let's target Hollywood.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it's all doomed.

[Tim Cast]

Chicago, man, that's crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

They'd move that in inland a little bit because that's a lot of wasted area. There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

That's a lot of water. Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

That's nuts. And this is air. This is airburst. And also, like, nukes blow up in the air to spread more of the blast downward, crushing every Russia.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, they talk.

[Libby Emmons]

They have multiple. Would we.

[Phil Labonte]

They have multiple warheads, like, aimed at every city. Like, all the targets actually have multiple warheads in case there's a. Something that goes wrong with one of them. So.

[Tim Cast]

Hey, look at that.

[Amber Duke]

Okay. Yeah. If that's the one, I'm smoked. Do the one that India has.

[Tim Cast]

Okay, that's. That's not. That's doing nothing.

[Amber Duke]

Well, I'm curious. Oh.

[Tim Cast]

Yep.

[Amber Duke]

Weak.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the one.

[Amber Duke]

And then. And then what was like, the middle ground one?

[Tim Cast]

So let me. Let me.

[Amber Duke]

Largest us one.

[Tim Cast]

The largest us.

[Amber Duke]

Is that the one that we just.

[Tim Cast]

That's Castle Bravo.

[Amber Duke]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not small.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. No.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, dang.

[Tim Cast]

Look at the radioactive fallout.

[Libby Emmons]

Wow.

[Tim Cast]

That blast is all right. To fallout. Wipes out New York after the fact.

[Libby Emmons]

And Hartford, at least. That's a bonus.

[Tim Cast]

Man. I don't think people realize the hell that nuclear war would be if it actually happened. Because people think in terms of nuclear.

[Libby Emmons]

War, here's something of, like, surviving.

[Tim Cast]

No, they think of Japan and they're like, look at all the damage we did with. What was it, like, 150 kilotons or something?

[Phil Labonte]

I think it was 15 kilotons.

[Libby Emmons]

It was.

[Tim Cast]

Right?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

We can actually find out right now. Let's do. Let's see. Where is the little boy? And fat man is 20.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Tim Cast]

15 and 20.

[Phil Labonte]

20.

[Tim Cast]

There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, my goodness.

[Tim Cast]

No, look.

[Amber Duke]

That's like, the perfect size.

[Tim Cast]

It would flatten D.C.

[Amber Duke]

It'S a joke.

[Tim Cast]

Arlington largely survives a lot of radiation, though. So people see this and they think.

[Amber Duke]

I'm not in Arlington.

[Tim Cast]

That's what nukes are. And here's the crazy thing. Sar bomba, the largest bomb ever designed, 100 megatons. That was what, like, 50 years ago?

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

So the thing about that, though, is it's one. It's a gravity bomb from a bomber. That thing's not getting anywhere near D.C. no, I mean, here's what will happen. They'll be flying over the water. They'll get close and, you know, I guess Atlantic City won't survive.

[Libby Emmons]

No, probably not.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. But it ain't getting anywhere near D.C. i don't know if this is true, but I heard that D.C. has, like, hidden surface to air missile sites.

[Amber Duke]

Well, you'd think this is true.

[Libby Emmons]

Should, right?

[Tim Cast]

It's true that. Are they a secret or, like.

[Amber Duke]

We just know that they're not really a secret. You can't take pictures of them.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, what? Wait, like, you can walk around. You'll see, like, a surface to air missile thing.

[Phil Labonte]

Edwards has F22.

[Tim Cast]

I've never seen these.

[Amber Duke]

It's a secret. I can't tell you.

[Phil Labonte]

Edwards has F22s, don't they?

[Amber Duke]

I don't know about Edwards. Fort Meyer, I believe, has them.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, because I was gonna say. Whatever.

[Amber Duke]

I'll just say I got married. So my wedding reception was at Fort Meyer, and we had to get all of our photos approved that we took outside.

[Libby Emmons]

Wow.

[Amber Duke]

Officers club.

[Libby Emmons]

That's cool.

[Phil Labonte]

Very cool.

[Amber Duke]

I don't know if they were specifically.

[Tim Cast]

Like, can I just go on, like, Google Maps and zoom in and look at all of this?

[Amber Duke]

I don't know.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, I bet they have it, sort of.

[Amber Duke]

They didn't tell us exactly what they were, but I'm assuming.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, did they disapprove? Did they say, like. No, not that one.

[Amber Duke]

It says. It says.

[Tim Pool]

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[Amber Duke]

Does have SAM systems in place.

[Libby Emmons]

Did they. Did they reject some of your photos?

[Amber Duke]

No, because our photographer didn't take any pictures of them. But they have to check afterwards to make sure for, like, people who would sneak on and do it.

[Tim Cast]

How far away is Fort Myers from D.C. not far.

[Amber Duke]

It's just in Arlington.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, okay. Right across over the river. I, I've heard that surrounding D.C. inconspicuous like there's surface air missile sites that are in the ground that come up.

[Phil Labonte]

Patriot. They're Patriot batteries.

[Tim Cast]

Patriot batteries. But aren't those on trucks?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, they don't have to be. They, they're. I mean when they put them on trucks, it's so that way they can move them around obviously. And if, if they have batteries that are located in D.C. and they don't want them to go anywhere, you know, they don't have to.

[Tim Cast]

How could we not have. Do we have thad?

[Libby Emmons]

What's that?

[Tim Cast]

THAD the. Let me get the actual acronym for you. There's iron dome and THAD Terminal high altitude area defense. U. S Missile defense system designed to shoot down short to intermediate range ballistic missiles. They got them in South Korea. Let me just. Let's ask the robot. Does DC have SAM sites? It's going to be like, of course. Are you stupid?

[Phil Labonte]

Actually, you know, they don't have multiple.

[Tim Cast]

Surface to air missile systems.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Part of the national capital region integrated air defense system. Multi layer defense network designed to safeguard the nation's capital from aerial assaults. There's quite a bit, actually. Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

So there should be.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean that's. Yeah, that's the stuff we're paying our taxes for. Right? Is like.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, to protect Congress.

[Libby Emmons]

And roads. No, but like if Congress got totally murdered, it may seem like it would be pointless, but it would be pretty bad.

[Tim Cast]

I just want to say one thing. On the underground cities thing, when, when you guys, you know, you're saying like, oh, how would we keep it a secret? I'll just say like this maybe, I don't know. But don't. Couldn't you imagine that Congress, when offered like, come on, any one of these members of Congress is going to draft a bill where they're like, in the event of war, we ought to live like ultra millionaires in an underground bunker with a flat screen. Flat screen TV in every room. Infinity pools that appear over nowhere. I guess because you're underground. But movie theater, 200 years of food. Our families get to be there. I wouldn't be surprised if Congress routinely votes for top secret things for themselves that we don't even know about.

[Libby Emmons]

And then that's why they're okay, putting, putting ahead the laws about how they can't give themselves pay raises. They're like, who needs that? We've already got this.

[Tim Cast]

Depending on what happens. I mean, they voted to Renovate Mount Weather. But this is all important news for you, my friends, because of this story right here from the Daily Mail. MSNBC Host floats war with Canada Law in shocking on air comments. This is. Okay. All right, here you go. Stephen, let me ask you about the article you wrote for the Atlantic and I sent this around to my. Stephen, let me ask you about the article you wrote for the Atlantic and I sent this around to my friends. Just the very fact that it was.

[Amber Duke]

Published, I think is surprising that we can have a conversation that is serious about what a war with Canada would look like. Explain why it's no longer unthinkable.

[Tim Cast]

Well, because Donald Trump makes us think it, right?

[Amber Duke]

I mean, he talks about annexing us.

[Tim Cast]

On a, on a regular basis. I mean, somewhere around 2% of the American population actually want to do this. But, you know, at this point in its history, you know, the American people can obviously be convinced of anything. Right? And already you see numbers of Republicans.

[Amber Duke]

Who consider Canada an enemy to be.

[Tim Cast]

Growing are, and you know, I think when, when countries are in constitutional crisis and when their legal system starts to fall apart as America's legal system is falling apart, violence against, against neighboring countries is a very common, you know, to me it's very intimately tied with his talk about being a third term president. Right, that's, exactly, that's out of the playbook of authoritarian governments around the world. And so, you know, Canada really does need to think about protecting ourselves from the United States and making sure that.

[Amber Duke]

You know, we're not just a snack.

[Tim Cast]

I agree. He's, he's completely right. Secure your borders, shut it down, stop letting anybody across because you don't know what's coming. And, and we're good.

[Phil Labonte]

It's, to me, it's frustrating to hear that stuff because it's so clownish. The, the, like Canada does not have the capacity to defend against the United States at all. No, like, it's, it's, it's not even on. It's not even with, in the realm of possibility that they could, if the United States decided that they wanted to go take Canada, you could take all of the important parts of Canada in an afternoon.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, well, I mean, the thing too, that this guy is forgetting is that Trump and Carney met today in the Oval Office. Carney asked Trump to stop referring to Canada as the 51st state. And it appears that Trump has acquiesced to a certain extent.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not going to do that.

[Libby Emmons]

He was calling Justin Trudeau Governor. He's calling Mark Carney Prime Minister he very clearly, like, from his own position, campaigned for Carney against Pierre Poiev, which pissed off a lot of Canadian conservatives. But there you have it. I think these two guys get along fine and I think they're going to work out a situation that's probably going to be beneficial for everybody.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Which is great. I mean, honestly, I would be happy to see a normalization between, of relations between Canada and the U.S. i like, I think that we should be friends with Canada, you know, we should be.

[Amber Duke]

Do you think that Indians and Pakistanis feel the same way? I feel of watching a Canadian talk crap about our legal system and our president?

[Phil Labonte]

They hate each other way more.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I think they do hate each other.

[Amber Duke]

It is so annoying, but it is gross.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's annoying.

[Amber Duke]

Stay in your lane. You don't know what you're talking about. And you know when he says, like, the legal system in jeopardy, he's talking about like Trump's attacks on judges and not the fact that judges are like deliberately going beyond judicial authority to curb the power of the executive.

[Libby Emmons]

They're. Yeah, like all these nationwide injunctions and all this stuff. Yeah, it's ludicrous.

[Amber Duke]

And the third term that Trump has already said like eight times since the initial troll that he's not doing.

[Libby Emmons]

I agree with you. But I would also say that Americans know basically nothing about the Canadian political system. So we, like Post Millennial was founded in Canada. Now we're owned by an American, you know, which is great. But. But when we were covering the Canadian elections, we have like a couple Canadians on staff who over and over had to explain to the rest of us, no, it's Parliament. This is how it works. Oh, Pierre Poly Poliev lost his seat in his riding and we're like, oh, so he's out as Conservative Party leader? And they're like, no, because actually somebody in Alberta is going to give up his seat and then there's going to be a by election. We're like, isn't that kind of like, now he's carpet bagging in Alberta. What's going on?

[Tim Cast]

I do need to warn the Americans because if you think you're going to march into Canada, you are sadly mistaken. They have mastered trench warfare. Take a look at this image of the US Canadian border. That trench is so perilous. This 80 year old man is struggling to get over it. He got over it. He did. But look. You think they're gonna drive over that? Think again.

[Libby Emmons]

Vermont or New York, I have no idea.

[Amber Duke]

That old woman in a lawn chair will Tear you up.

[Phil Labonte]

The United States and Canada have such close relations and have for so long. All of this stuff is all just BS garbage. That's just. It's. It's so far away from reality that it's. It's pointless to even.

[Tim Cast]

You're right. I mean, Canada should just be part of the United States.

[Amber Duke]

I mean, it's very similar. I don't know. My grandmother immigrated to the US From Canada. My grandfather's ancestors were Canadian. He was born in the US But I never hear them talk about Canada.

[Tim Cast]

You know what offends me the most.

[Amber Duke]

Is that so happy to be American.

[Tim Cast]

Like, Isn't it like 90% of Canadians live within, like, 100 miles of the border?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And most live in, like, that little area near New York and Vermont and Maine.

[Tim Cast]

You know, they're just crowding up on our border to take our stock in Quebec.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Did you see what. When Trump was talking to Carney, he was like, we don't want your cars, we don't want your steel, we don't want your aluminum. And Carney's just sitting there.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

And he's like, we don't. We don't want access to your market. You want access to ours, so we don't care.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and also, Trump wants to pull back all of the film and TV production that's been going on in Canada. Specifically, like, Vancouver. I saw that too. And people were kind of pissed about it. And I'm like, no, get them all the hell back here.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yep.

[Libby Emmons]

What the hell?

[Amber Duke]

I love the idea on its face, but does it mean that we're just going to get more woke Hollywood movies?

[Libby Emmons]

We're getting the same movies no matter what. It's not like, I mean. I mean, it's the same.

[Phil Labonte]

Canada's way more woke than the US Is.

[Libby Emmons]

That's the uk.

[Tim Cast]

The issue is New Zealand. They've got to offer up concessions to get access to the cheaper markets. So selling the movies there or producing them there and bring them back. It is interesting, though, because when Trump said this, I'm like, like, what if the movie is made by an American company, but it's literally about Africa?

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Tim Cast]

They're gonna film that here.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

Or Florida, maybe Arizona also.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't know.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Would that be a foreign film if you bring your whole crew? If you, like, bring everybody.

[Tim Cast]

That's the issue. You're producing it in a foreign country. First location.

[Libby Emmons]

Right.

[Tim Cast]

It's one thing if you're going to Vancouver and claiming it's Chicago, which they do all the Time that's constant. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Like Riverdale.

[Tim Cast]

Like, don't do that.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

Also a lot of great films made in New Zealand.

[Tim Cast]

Lord of the Rings.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Is that the only one?

[Amber Duke]

I don't think so.

[Phil Labonte]

Really pretty down there.

[Tim Cast]

Only one that matters. I don't know what New Zealand produces. Not cats. You know that they produce those.

[Libby Emmons]

Those Hakka dances, you know.

[Amber Duke]

The only native animal to New Zealand are birds.

[Libby Emmons]

Really?

[Tim Cast]

Really?

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Where'd they get all the rest of them?

[Amber Duke]

Don't they have, like, imported, usually gifts from other countries, like white tail deer? They actually have domesticated them. They're effectively farm animals to prevent them from overbreeding. Yeah. It's crazy.

[Tim Cast]

I interviewed a guy a while back named Gareth Morgan, I think his name was, and he got a lot of flack because he had called for. He didn't say to kill all the cats. He said just like, neuter and spay them all. So they can't have babies because the cats were brought on the British ships or the colonial ships and then jumped off and ran around, had a bunch of babies and they just started massacring all the local animals who'd never seen a cat before. So he was like, we should just, you know, not let him have babies. And then they wrote in the media, like, he's calling for the killing of all house cats.

[Libby Emmons]

He's a terrorist.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Killing cats.

[Tim Cast]

That was a funny story.

[Libby Emmons]

Send them all to Springfield.

[Tim Cast]

Media is always lying.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yep. Well, that's what you get. So war with Canada is, is, is. Is coming.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it. Like I said, it's. It's not coming. And Canada's very, very. Canada should be very grateful that it's not coming. They don't have any war making capacity. If you look at the, the actual, like, outlines of what.

[Tim Cast]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

And it has.

[Tim Cast]

I just need to explain this to the people of the world. The United States has a strategic oil reserve, a strategic petroleum reserve.

[Libby Emmons]

We're filling it up again.

[Tim Cast]

We are filling it up again. We want to make sure that we can run our tanks, operate our facilities, our factories. Canada has a strategic maple syrup reserve. That is the cutest thing I've ever heard a country do.

[Libby Emmons]

I. I do like that. We do have also. We have our strategic cheese reserves.

[Tim Cast]

Well, that makes sense.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

I mean, a man is going to have a can of gas and a block of cheese and a little maple syrup.

[Libby Emmons]

Who doesn't need that?

[Tim Cast]

No. That is like a little old granny. Like when, when, when. When I first heard that there was a robbery. Did you hear about the Great maple syrup heist.

[Libby Emmons]

No, some.

[Tim Cast]

Like, some dudes. Millions of dollars.

[Libby Emmons]

It should be a film, and we should produce it here in the United States.

[Tim Cast]

That's got to be like a James Frank Franco, Seth Rogen film. I guess they hate each other now, though.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, that's too bad.

[Tim Cast]

So we should do in comedy these days.

[Amber Duke]

Well, nobody.

[Libby Emmons]

Nobody's doing comedy.

[Amber Duke]

A sequel. Or maybe it's the third movie. I don't know if they did a sequel to Red dawn, but we'll do a Red Dawn. But it's the US Versus Canada, and it's filmed in the US thanks to Trump's tariffs.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, I'm not kidding. You guys think I'm joking? Look at this. The great Canadian maple syrup heist. Vol. De Syrup Dirable Deuce. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Did you hear Mark Carney try and speak French? He was terrible at it, and I don't even know French. And you could tell he doesn't know what he's.

[Tim Cast]

Look at this. The theft of over several months of 300 tons of maple syrup valued at 18.7 million Canadian. Wow. From a storage facility in Quebec. The facility was operated by the Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup producers, which represents 70% of the global maple syrup supply. Okay, I'll be honest. If they can refine maple syrup into fuel, this story would be a lot better.

[Libby Emmons]

But right now is great. Come on.

[Tim Cast]

It sure is if you're a granny wanting to give a sweet treat to your grandchild and confirm.

[Amber Duke]

I got a lot of those from Grandma. Wonderful, Matt.

[Tim Cast]

It's wonderful.

[Amber Duke]

It's very good.

[Tim Cast]

But come on and look at their flag. They got a little leaf on it. Okay, I'm gonna say this. Canada. And. And. And Canadians are allowed to get mad at me for it. Their flag has a little maple leaf on it, and they have a maple reserve. They're like. Like. Like a. Like little gnomes. They're like. You know what I mean? They're. They're not a serious nation.

[Libby Emmons]

No, they're not a serious nation.

[Tim Cast]

We made a flag. We put a leaf on it, and it's like striking fear into the hearts of your enemies.

[Libby Emmons]

It took them a long time to come up with that flag, too. Like, they went through multiple drafts.

[Tim Cast]

Is that. You know what the. You know what the red represents in the American flag?

[Amber Duke]

Blood.

[Tim Cast]

The blood of patriots died for the country. Then you've got, like, other countries with, like, a lion or eagles holding arrows.

[Amber Duke]

Dragons.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, dragons. And I'll even respect this. Some have chickens.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, elbows up.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. Canada was like a maple leaf. You Know, so Canada, if. If there was ever going to be a war between our peoples, we would march into that country and they would just say, oh, hey.

[Libby Emmons]

Or they would pour boiling hot maple syrup on us. Like, down, down, down the side of that trench. Just dump it. You know, it would be like star.

[Amber Duke]

And feather, but with maple syrup.

[Tim Cast]

Siege weapons of launching flaming maple syrup.

[Libby Emmons]

And hockey sticks. They just chuck them at us.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You know?

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, if you. You could, like, whip a puck at somebody that hurt. That'll. That'll hurt. That's why they got helmets.

[Tim Cast]

You know, the Canadians actually do have a military, and they have guns and they know how to use them. But just imagining, like, Mounties with hockey sticks storming into battle on the back.

[Amber Duke]

Of them, I would. I. I would definitely be most worried about the rural Canadians, because those people know how to survive.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. They, like, don't discount ferries.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. But they would. They would greet us like liberators.

[Amber Duke]

Probably true.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, Alberta is like, hey, we. You know, we might be interested.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, Canada, you are ripe for parody.

[Phil Labonte]

They are.

[Tim Cast]

There was other news that was serious. What was that? Israel attacks Yemen's airport.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. They got rid of that airport in sauna.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. This is crazy. And then. So this is BBC reporting. Israel attacks main airport and Yemen's capital, Sana. And I think. What do we have here from. Yeah. Trump. Trump says the US Will stop bombing the Houthis.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that was a big deal.

[Tim Cast]

But the Houthis are claiming they're not giving up, so we'll see how long this goes.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, well, I mean, Trump said today in the Oval Office during that pool spray that the Houthis had capitulated and that they told him that they. Or he heard from a very good source, and he sort of conferred with Rubio and Vance, and they're like, oh, yeah, really great source. That they're not going to attack shipping lanes anymore. So we'll see whether that's true or not.

[Tim Cast]

There. I mean, maybe after the bombing of the Capitol and shutting the airport down.

[Amber Duke]

I mean, I guess that would have been around the same time. I think the pool spray was around, like, three or it was around noon.

[Tim Cast]

This is Israelis.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

So. And then I saw someone post on Google that it says the airport is now permanently closed after being bombed. So, World War iii, or are we just. You know, we just.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, it's definitely not going to be the Houthis that are starting it.

[Tim Cast]

No, but Israel is involved in a lot of conflict right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but I. I don't. I don't like, look, there's, there's always conflict in the Middle east. And you know, there was the US strike that killed Soleimani. There was, I think the Israel struck Iran because Iran was shooting some missiles. There's flare ups. But just because there are flare ups, that doesn't really mean that it's going to turn into World War iii. Yeah, I'd be, I'm more concerned what happens with Russia and Ukraine and Europe leading to some kind of serious war then war in the Middle East. War in the Middle east is kind of like the normal state.

[Amber Duke]

I think maybe we are kind of in a slumber of a two decade long regime changed, democracy building war that we're not.

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[Amber Duke]

Really conditioned for skirmishes like this anymore.

[Phil Labonte]

Go on.

[Amber Duke]

Like, this is the, this is the first time in a while that we've seen these countries kind of going at it with each other in a really like schizophrenic kind of way because we've been so focused on Afghanistan and so maybe we're kind of like shocked out of our slumber.

[Tim Cast]

I kind of, I, I, I, I, am I wrong? I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't feel like there have been this many active conflicts at once in a long time.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, there have been, but a bunch of them have been in places we don't pay any attention to. Also, like there's, there's been stuff and.

[Tim Cast]

Like Burma, we're not worried about.

[Amber Duke]

I mean, there was a Syrian civil war.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, there was that.

[Tim Cast]

The entire Arab Spring.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Cast]

To be fair, I remember. Was it 10 years ago when was Protective Edge? That was 10 years ago. Right. Let me do a quick fact check on Protective Edge. Our Israel obsessed people will know exactly what that was. Nope, I did not want to search for that. And I have no idea. The Gaza war, Operation protective edge was 2014, August when that was happening. A bunch of journalists were speculating that this could be the start of. I should pull this over of World War III, because this is the 2014 Gaza war. There was talks about a Palestinian surge into Israeli territory. Israel was bombing the Gaza Strip. And then a lot of journalists in New York had been discussing, like, conflict reporters saying there were concerns that Iran would step up their proxy war, start funneling as many weapons as possible to embolden Hamas, you know, in Gaza, and then scale this up to basically what we're seeing now. But nothing happened. So it was a lot of talk about, oh, man, we're dangerously close to World War III if Iran gets involved. And they didn't. They did not. Then again, today, Iran launched missiles into Israel and hit them. Yeah, and Israel launched missiles back. And then they said, you didn't do anything and, you know, lied. Now Israel's blown up pagers in Lebanon. Israel just said they're going to. What did they say? Flatten Gaza.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, they're going to take over Gaza. That was what they.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. I kind of feel like we're closer to World War Three than ever before. Come on. Like when this stuff was happening, we didn't have all of this conflict all at once, especially war in Eastern Europe.

[Libby Emmons]

Here's the big question. Let's say, let's say. Let's. We go with your premise that we are very close to World War three. So World War one, World War two, it took like an inciting incident to get the US Involved. What would the incident be? That would have to get the U.S. involved. We'd have to be attacked.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, bro, easy. False flag.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, who would attack us? So you think the government would do a false flag of attacking the U.S.

[Tim Cast]

No, the government could do a false flag. Or what the US Government prefers to do is threaten indirectly to provoke an attack. And then they can say, oh, no, why did they attack us? Gulf of Tonkin, however, was a false flag.

[Libby Emmons]

What about Pearl Harbor?

[Tim Cast]

We got attacked on Pearl Harbor.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, the.

[Tim Cast]

There's, there's.

[Libby Emmons]

Who do you think? Like, let's say it wasn't a false Flag. Do you think that Pearl harbor was.

[Tim Cast]

Not a false flag?

[Libby Emmons]

No, no. Let's say now, right? What would get the US into World War iii?

[Tim Cast]

Like what scale of attack?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, like who would do it, would do it. Who would attack us and how would it be an Indian?

[Tim Cast]

I mean, we could.

[Libby Emmons]

On New York.

[Tim Cast]

We can speculate a million different ways.

[Libby Emmons]

Curious what you think it would be. I'm just. I'm just curious what it would be.

[Tim Cast]

Honestly, I don't know. It could be hundreds, thousands of different scenarios. 1, 1 Potential scenario is a cyber attack launched by the Iranians on an industrial control system which takes out the power of a major metro or something. I don't know that that would actually reach a significant level. But you take a look at 9, 11, we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and why.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it was weird.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, they're hiding bin Laden from us and Iraq has got weapons of mass destruction.

[Libby Emmons]

They didn't.

[Phil Labonte]

I think Iraq was about. Was a vanity project for George Bush.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. You remember because he was like, you saw what he's. He. What he did to my dad, what he said about my dad, whatever it was.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, but you know, George Bush, what.

[Libby Emmons]

Country kill my dad? That's what you know.

[Tim Cast]

What country borders Iraq to the east?

[Phil Labonte]

Is it to the east?

[Libby Emmons]

To the east? I have no idea.

[Phil Labonte]

The east is Iran.

[Tim Cast]

It is. And you know what country borders Afghanistan to the west?

[Libby Emmons]

It's Iran. Right.

[Amber Duke]

Indeed.

[Tim Cast]

So we invaded those. Those two countries, put military bases all along the eastern and western fronts. I wonder why.

[Libby Emmons]

That's interesting.

[Tim Cast]

So Russia.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Iran is bigger than you think.

[Tim Cast]

Here's the. Here's the thing. There's this viral clip that the Jews people like to share. That's out of context where I was making the point about a false flag. And I said, it doesn't matter who files that fires the missiles because the false flag already happened. And the propaganda narrative will be used against whichever side, by both sides. Like if an attack on the US happened that was reasonably discernible to the average person to have been a false flag or not even a false flag. Let's say a rogue band of miscreants, blah, blah, blah, detonated bomb, they're unaffiliated. Let's say it's antifa. The US government could just come out and say, we found a passport on the streets proving it was an Iranian. Iran attacked us. The media will run the narrative 100 times an hour. And then the American people will be told we have to go to war with Iran. And a lot of people will believe It.

[Amber Duke]

Do you think that the politics in the US Are such now, though, that people are going to be a lot more skeptical?

[Tim Cast]

Oh, yeah.

[Amber Duke]

Because the neoconservatives have been effectively destroyed.

[Tim Cast]

Here's, here's, here's why. I don't know that we can get involved in a war so long as. Well, you know, here's what, here's. Imagine this. Imagine Iran literally does set a bomb off in, I don't know, Philadelphia. And, like, shortly before, there's like a. There's a bunch of videos going viral of a guy screaming in the middle of Philly about the glory of Iran. And then all of a sudden, a dirty bomb goes off and it just, like, irradiates a big portion of the city and kills 10,000. Donald Trump would come out and call for retaliation. The Democrats would immediately come out and say, no, we reject this and we oppose it and we will not let this happen.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. Need to do a proportionate response.

[Tim Cast]

No. They just say no. They'd say, Trump is evil no matter what he does, so whatever it is he's doing, we're against.

[Amber Duke]

I don't know if I agree with that, because the only time that the media and the Democrats cheered on Trump during the first term was when he struck Soleimani.

[Tim Cast]

Fair point. Fair point. I concede. That is a good point.

[Amber Duke]

Thank you.

[Tim Cast]

I.

[Amber Duke]

Moments.

[Tim Cast]

I do think the Democrats are just going to oppose whatever it is Trump is doing. So to be fair, if a dirty bomb went off. Yeah. They'd probably say, oh, war. Oh, we like war. Good.

[Amber Duke]

They would be. That's the only thing they agree with Republicans on.

[Tim Cast]

That's why they're mad at Trump right now, because he doesn't want to get involved in the war with Iran.

[Amber Duke]

The establishment Republicans don't like Trump.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

It's all over foreign policy for the most part.

[Tim Cast]

So then I suppose the issue would be if some kind of attack happened on the US Trump would resist and they would say, he's letting us be attacked, he's weak.

[Amber Duke]

There would be a huge debate between Vance and Rubio, and they would fight for Trump's year.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, but I think Vance would say no.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Vance wouldn't want. Wouldn't want the war.

[Tim Cast]

But have you heard that Trump is touting Rubio as the potential successor?

[Phil Labonte]

He's mentioned to me.

[Libby Emmons]

Really?

[Amber Duke]

He mentioned both of them? Yeah. He said Vance and Rubio.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And so I heard the, the, the interviews that you're referring to, he talked about both of them.

[Tim Cast]

So, you know, well, you could do.

[Libby Emmons]

Vance advance, Rubio ticket and then Rubio. Whoever else ticket after that.

[Tim Cast]

Who would be president after Trump?

[Libby Emmons]

Well, there's a lot of people like Vance. I like fans.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, Vince is good, but does. Does. You know, I would give Vance a B minus. Trump's got an A plus.

[Libby Emmons]

Sure.

[Tim Cast]

Trump's. Trump's in a once in a. Once in a lifetime crazy guy.

[Libby Emmons]

He's.

[Tim Cast]

He's literally a, like, orange man. You know what I mean? It's. It's like there's. He's. He's a unique, strong, tall, weird person. And I mean, we're in the good way. Like, he is atypical. He is abnormal. JD Vance is as normal as they come.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. But I think he could be good. And also, you have to remember, like, vice presidents never get to do anything good. He's. We're seeing him a lot more than we saw Kamala Harris.

[Tim Cast]

He's been doing an amazing job.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

I'm just saying.

[Libby Emmons]

Glad that we've seen him out there a lot more than, you know, previous vice presidents.

[Tim Cast]

I.

[Libby Emmons]

We never saw Pence. I mean, he sucked, but still, the.

[Tim Cast]

Democrats have nobody with any x factor. Like AOC, maybe as like, on a scale of 1 to 100 or 2, it's like she's got celebrity there, but not enough to be president.

[Libby Emmons]

No. She has political talent, but I don't see it being presidential. I mean, look at the people that they're pushing forward. Jasmine Crockett, she's awful hilarious, and I.

[Phil Labonte]

Want them to push her more right to the front, you know, like you.

[Amber Duke]

To the front. Like when she boarded that plane in front of the disabled people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, is that what she did?

[Phil Labonte]

The more attention, the more it's actually impressive, the happier I am.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. She was like, I'm super important. You gotta let me on.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, that's great.

[Libby Emmons]

She is nuts.

[Phil Labonte]

Wow.

[Libby Emmons]

Gretchen Whitmer is terrible.

[Amber Duke]

She's making moves, though.

[Tim Cast]

So.

[Libby Emmons]

She is.

[Tim Cast]

Let me. Sucks I got to pull this story.

[Libby Emmons]

Up from so everyone will know she's.

[Tim Cast]

This. This story is absolutely incredible. It made my day. Check this out. Dave Weigel, you know him, you love him. Writes for Semaphore. Trump's falling in the polls. Why aren't Democrats benefiting? I don't even need to read it. Because they're insane people with no plan, no leadership, and their ideology is backwards.

[Libby Emmons]

Yes.

[Tim Cast]

Anything else?

[Libby Emmons]

Also, everything they used to stand for, now that Trump stands for it, they hate it. You know, and you're like, guys, you. You have no belief, so you don't believe in anything. At all. They're just on this shifting sands of what's fashionable at the time.

[Tim Cast]

I was speaking with Ryan Gardesky earlier, and the general premise is they have to oppose whatever it is Trump does. And so they're a party of nothing. They have no mission statement other than Trump is bad. Yes, but that only. That only works on boomers.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And not even all of them. But it has been working on boomers really well. I mean, if you look at the polling, boomers are the only demographic in the US Where Trump is in negative numbers and boomers are actually who delivered Canada for Carney as well. The rest of the Canadians were like, we just want to be able to afford a house. And everybody else was like, but Trump. And they freaked out about that.

[Phil Labonte]

It is kind of crazy that the. The boomers are so detached from, I.

[Libby Emmons]

Mean, any semblance of reality. Yeah. I was talking to Jack Sobeck about this earlier because we were. We were talking about, like, how boomers just. They don't want to share with lower generations. They're the only. They're the only demographic that ever just doesn't care if their kids are better off than them. You know, they just, like, hide out in their second homes and go off and find themselves and travel around and do all of this stuff. And it's like, you guys are so out of touch. Or have you seen this? This boomer grandparent thing? Have you seen this? So this is something like you've seen, you'll see, like, in Instagram or whatever Millennials and Gen Xers will say. When I was a kid, I used to hang out with my grandparents all the time. I'd spend time with them in the summers. They'd come over and babysit me. I'd spend time with them on weekends. My parents would just drop me off. I had a great relationship with my grandparents. Where are my parents? They don't care about my kids. They are never here. They complain anytime I ask them to just look after the kids while I go to the doctor. You know, they just. And that's sort of, you know, I love my parents, but, like, where are you, fam? I never see you guys.

[Tim Cast]

Did you see that? I think I might have it here. Actually. There was that poll that went viral where they asked Gen Z in Canada, what. What is concerning you about, you know, what. What is your biggest issue with this election? They said, the cost of living is my biggest issue. Or housing. And boomers all said Trump.

[Libby Emmons]

That's exactly right.

[Tim Cast]

In Canada.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, exactly. Because the boomers are out of touch and crazed and obsessed with themselves, just like they have been since the 1960s. You know, they're the same as they always have been.

[Amber Duke]

I remember reading a New York Times article a few years ago and like occasionally their style section hits and they have this article about, I found it, the boomers who had been buying up single family homes or like homes that basically your second home or like your third home as you start accumulating wealth. And they were turning them into these like hyper customized nightmares. So then when they went to sell their second or third home to get their final home to downsize because they couldn't take care of it, they couldn't sell them because no millennial could afford it. And it was insane. And everything was hyper customized. And it was like my mom took.

[Libby Emmons]

The wall off the master bedroom of her beach house. So that.

[Amber Duke]

Shouldn't she get what she wants? Libby?

[Libby Emmons]

Just a curtain, right? So that when she's there by herself, she's like, when I'm here by myself, it's like a loft and when anybody else is there, there's just, there's no master bedroom. It's just like, who would want to make sure.

[Tim Cast]

I want to make sure. We point out that half of boomers are good people. Some, I assume are good people. Look at, look, look at this, look at this poll. Look at this. This is abacus data ca.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, we covered this at the post.

[Tim Cast]

Millennial Gen z top issue, 45% reducing your cost of living. Millennials 50%. Gen X 49. Boomers 38. It's not bad. Dealing with Donald Trump. Gen Z 27. Millennials 28. Gen X is 39. Boomers is 50%. It is their number one issue.

[Libby Emmons]

That's right. It's so stupid.

[Tim Cast]

He's not even in Canada.

[Libby Emmons]

He's the president of a different country.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[Tim Cast]

It's oh, poor Gen Z.

[Amber Duke]

That's like the liberal wine moms who are my biggest someone.

[Tim Cast]

Can someone make the Wojak meme where it's the depressed looking guy but Gen Z and he says, you know, like, I just want to buy a house and have a family. And then it's a boomer drinking tea, being like, but orange man bad.

[Libby Emmons]

Only if you can make sure that that boomer looks like they have four houses. Because they do.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, 70 like 77% of boomers on homes. About 72% of Gen Xers on homes. Half of millennials and almost none of Gen Z. I think Gen Z is on the single digits.

[Libby Emmons]

I bought my house a Couple of years ago, and I had to leave everywhere that I'm from in order to afford it.

[Tim Cast]

Yo, look at this.

[Libby Emmons]

And I'm happy about it, but. But still, that's what I had to do.

[Tim Cast]

27% of Gen Z said, make housing more affordable. 9% of boomers, they don't care. I already have three houses.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, they've got that equity.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Wow.

[Libby Emmons]

I saw like, some boomers are trying to sell their second vacation homes on the coast of Maine and they can't find anyone to sell it to. Dude, the rest of us are broke.

[Tim Cast]

Canadian boomers may. May have polled the worst, most amoral people I've ever seen. Look at this. Making Canada a better place to live. Gen Z, 18%, millennials 20, Gen X 11 and boomers 8.

[Libby Emmons]

That's only because Gen X ers are apathetic and they don't think anything can actually be better.

[Tim Cast]

You go to a boomer and you're like, would you like to make things more affordable? No. Houses? No. Make Canada better? No. Then what do you want? Trump sucks.

[Libby Emmons]

They don't even have any plan for it. Just Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

Son, we want to defend against Trump. What is Trump going to do to you? You nut bad.

[Tim Cast]

That's amazing. Carney just like. And he's like, as the Prime Minister of Canada, I will impeach Trump and he wins.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, that's what happened. That's how that went down.

[Phil Labonte]

It's so insane.

[Tim Cast]

Wow. That's incredible. This is funny, though. Gen Z achieving reconciliation within indigenous people 4%.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, because. Come on now, we're all done with this. We have no problem.

[Tim Cast]

Done with it.

[Amber Duke]

What does that even mean? Reconciliation?

[Libby Emmons]

Reconciliation is a. It's a uniquely Canadian concept where the idea is that the white man was so terrible to the indigenous people. It's like reparations. Ish.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, Well, I used to play Sid meier's colonization in 1994, and the French get a trade bonus with Native Americans because as history teaches us, the now Canadians were good to the indigenous, so there's nothing to reconcile.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, you can tell that they were good because they're not exterminated. Yeah, I mean, there are indigenous people in Canada, so already they did a better job.

[Amber Duke]

And there was the fake unmarked grave scandal with the Catholic.

[Libby Emmons]

Totally fake. There was nothing there. Yeah, that was. That was.

[Amber Duke]

That was actually evil.

[Libby Emmons]

It was evil.

[Tim Cast]

Well, Canada is a. Is a weak people. You know, Canadians are very weak. Look at their governments. Come on, they just voted in the Liberals. I mean, look, I'm sorry you're gonna.

[Phil Labonte]

Get more hate mail.

[Tim Cast]

That's fine.

[Libby Emmons]

Government. And it has been for a while. The fourth. Fourth. Fourth Liberal Party government.

[Tim Cast]

Have you ever seen the grip strength between men and women graph?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Tim Cast]

I'm gonna pull this one up, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna make a point. Let me. Let me. Let me grab this image.

[Libby Emmons]

You're gonna say Canadians are just a bunch of weak women who can't grip strength.

[Tim Cast]

My point is this. My point is this. Is there a way to make this. Oh, that's massive. Let's. There you go. There you go. Okay, see the green, this is female grip strength, and the blue is male grip strength. You can see that very rarely there are some females who have a higher than. A higher grip strength than males. But typically, even the strongest females have a. Have a grip strength that is lower than the average male. Okay, now replace males and females with the green is Canada and. And the blue is America.

[Libby Emmons]

You should draw that in.

[Tim Cast]

We. We voted for Trump twice, and they can't even get past Trudeau.

[Libby Emmons]

No, no.

[Tim Cast]

So. So listen, listen, here's my point.

[Libby Emmons]

And what's sort of funny is that Trump basically pushed for Carney, and.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, he's laughing about it.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And Carney was like, trump is terrible. And Trump was like, elect Carney and Carney wins.

[Tim Cast]

Real quick, I just want to say this. I understand that when you look at this graph, you can see there are some women that are stronger than the average man, because there are many Canadians that are stronger than the average American. But that is the far end of the bell curve. That is a minority of people. They are living in the wilderness. They are stronger than average, stronger than me, better at survival than I could ever be. Armed to the teeth, manly men riding.

[Libby Emmons]

Moose out there in Yukon on the island.

[Tim Cast]

That's right. But I'm talking about the majority of the people who live on the US Border, effectively.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Making their money off of the American economy and voting for a liberal government that is destroying their way of life.

[Amber Duke]

Life statistics don't make sense. Yeah, well, that's like the people who are like, well, I know this one girl who beat this guy in a foot race. So, like, obviously.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, the. What is it? We were talking about it earlier. 6, like, 90 of Canadians live within.

[Amber Duke]

98. I think.

[Phil Labonte]

98 within 100 miles of the.

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[Phil Labonte]

The idea that Canada can survive without the U.S. is comical. Like, it's, it's just, you know, let's.

[Tim Cast]

Get the actual hard percent. 90. Yes, that's what I said. 90 of Canadians live within 100 miles.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Of the US border. It's a milder climate and they have access to US Trade.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. And what percent of their economy is from U. S. Trade? It's a pretty significant amount.

[Tim Cast]

And then 90. The additional. The next 5% are within another 100 miles. 95% are with 290 within 100. All right, here's my challenge. Canadians, you think you're so tough. You're going to sit here and be like, how dare you, Tim, disparage my great nation. Okay, stop doing trade with America to stop. Stop doing any trade with us at all. Because I'll tell you this, the United States. Yeah. There are some businesses that'll go under. Everybody saw those videos where the Canadians were taking the whiskey off the shelves, being like, we're not going to sell American whiskey anymore.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

You owned yourself. You have to drink Crown Royal right now.

[Libby Emmons]

They're all some losers. It's ridiculous.

[Tim Cast]

I assure you, if we shut the border with Canada, the U.S. would be a little teeny bit worse off. And we do. Trade is good. But Canada's in trouble. They're in big trouble. What are they going to do, eat moose?

[Phil Labonte]

Eat the Canadian cheese?

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And they've got an awful lot of syrup.

[Tim Cast]

They do. You know. You know, interesting factoid. Maple syrup used to be the principal source of sugar for baked goods. That sounds like the greatest thing ever.

[Libby Emmons]

I put a lot of. Yeah. When I, when I bake, I use.

[Phil Labonte]

Maple sugar between maple.

[Tim Cast]

Not even that, but like, sir, could you imagine? You're like, you're making cookies and it's like, I'm putting maple syrup in these chocolate chip cookies. That sounds so good.

[Libby Emmons]

Really good.

[Tim Cast]

Now what do we do? Sugar.

[Amber Duke]

Well, you replace it with butter and sugar separately.

[Libby Emmons]

But the only problem with you.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, no, you put maple and butter.

[Amber Duke]

No, but I'm saying that the. Because the texture would change. Right?

[Libby Emmons]

So like, it makes the batter runny. Yeah, yeah, that's the problem. You need a little more flour, and then you need a little more leavening to work.

[Tim Cast]

Maple sugar. Then we'll go your route.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, either way.

[Tim Cast]

That would taste so good.

[Libby Emmons]

It's delicious.

[Tim Cast]

But it's so expensive.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. Now we have syrup in my. In my buttercream. I make maple syrup. Vanilla buttercream.

[Tim Cast]

You know where we get white sugar, table sugar from, right?

[Libby Emmons]

What beats.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, that's awful.

[Amber Duke]

It was awesome.

[Libby Emmons]

You can also buy. You can get cane sugar.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, I know.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, I buy pure cane sugar.

[Libby Emmons]

More expensive, you know, because I'm that. I'm that really?

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, but we're in maple country here.

[Amber Duke]

And I don't use that.

[Tim Cast]

You drive like a half an hour and there's just maple syrup and going on all over the place. I went to a place with. With Allison, and it was just some like 80 year old man, and they had us watch a video about the history of their maple farm.

[Libby Emmons]

That's awesome.

[Tim Cast]

It was amazing. It was like seven generations.

[Libby Emmons]

I love that.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

I'm glad there was a video because a lot of those, like, veteran roadside stands in Virginia are total scams. They don't actually make the jam. They're liars.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, yeah. Yep. Yep. There's a. There's a company out here by us.

[Libby Emmons]

Buy it from Meghan Markle or something.

[Tim Cast]

No, there's a company out here by us that mass produces jams, jellies, snacks, and then they label it for whatever farm or whatever. So you walk in and it'll be like, you know, Huckleberry farms. And you're like, yeah, this is made by like one company that sells to everybody. The tourists. The tourists drive in from the city and go, oh, look, farm jelly. And it's. It's better than the store bought high fructose corn syrup garbage, don't get me wrong. But it's not still, you know, you're just getting a white label jelly that you can buy from any one of these farm stores. Go to oars and the antique stores. Farmers market, we got like, like, yo, you like antiquing?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

This is where you go to antique.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Cast]

And they all sell jam stuff.

[Libby Emmons]

I bought some cool stuff at an estate sale.

[Tim Cast]

There is an in. I don't. It's near here. I think it might be maybe an Inwood. Yeah. There's an antique store. And when you walk in the first room, it's basically just Nazi stuff everywhere.

[Libby Emmons]

Creepy.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And they're like, did you buy some stuff?

[Tim Cast]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

That is World War II paraphernalia.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. I would say that if Allied stuff was in it, too.

[Libby Emmons]

There wasn't any Allied stuff. It's, like, very little creepy. German.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. Largely. Largely, like, German stuff, but, you know, I don't care. Antiquing. It's like they're artifacts. There's one. One place I went to was really cool. They had a. A captured German gun, like the sidearm. I forgot what kind of gun it is. I don't know. Was that what it was?

[Phil Labonte]

Could have been.

[Tim Cast]

I don't know. And it had a certificate of authenticity. And I'm like, I totally get why people would buy that. I know. Some people are Nazis, some people like history.

[Phil Labonte]

I would.

[Tim Cast]

There's a distinction.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't care.

[Libby Emmons]

There's a Venn diagram in there.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't care what anyone calls me. If I can get my hands on a Sturmgevoir for less than 44 grand, I'm buying it.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, what?

[Phil Labonte]

Sturmgevoor. The first machine gun that the Nazis had.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Germans. And it was actually the. The AK47 had a lot of. A lot of influence from the Sturmy Bar.

[Tim Cast]

Interesting. We got a bunch of stories. Should we talk about this major Supreme Court ruling that Trump just won?

[Phil Labonte]

That would be a good idea.

[Tim Cast]

Here we go, from the Daily Mail. Supreme Court rules on Trump's total ban on transgender troops, saying, yep, a huge win for Trump. The Supreme Court ruling lifts a lower court's decision to pause Trump's policy, which the administration called dramatic and facially unfair. The order allows the DoD to continue removing trans service members from the military and denying enlistment while lawsuits continue in the lower courts.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, so we're still going to hear it in the. What is it, the 5th Circuit? The one in Louisiana? Is that the 5th Circuit?

[Tim Cast]

Well, Trump's policy is sound. Okay. First, gender dysphoria is a DSM 5 mental disorder. That is the academic description, because it is. It allows people suffering from gender dysphoria to get prescribed medications. Were it not a mental disorder, they could not get prescribed medications or surgeries. Donald Trump is saying, we are adding a mental disorder from the DSN5 to the criteria that will bar you from entry. There's a bunch of others. Schizophrenia, for instance. There's a bunch of mental disorders, there's like 44. I think this is just one of them. The lower courts are basically telling the commander in chief of the armed forces. And I should say this, they literally. This judge literally wrote all means all saying you can't discriminate against a person for this reason. That means that the viral. The viral meme that came out of this was a bipolar paraplegic. Must be allowed to enter the military and go through basic training.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Which is impossible. Trump's policy is sound. What he said was, if you were diagnosed with gender dysphoria but do not exhibit symptoms, you are fine. But if you are exhibiting symptoms, then you're out. That means if you're a man who dresses like a woman or is undergoing treatments and, you know, chemicals and whatever it is, then they're going to discharge you.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and a lot of people go into the military and then decide they're trans, and then the military pays for it.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

You know, one of the people who brought suit actually transitioned in the military.

[Tim Cast]

Right.

[Libby Emmons]

Was in the military for, like, 19 years. So this case went to Washington, I think a. A court in Washington that put on the nationwide injunction. The Trump administration appealed it to the Fifth Circuit. The Fifth Circuit did not lift the injunction. So they did the emergency application of the Supreme Court that lifted the injunction. While it's being heard in the 5th Circuit.

[Phil Labonte]

There is no topic more absolutely insane than things like transgender people in the military. Transgender. The transgender issue overall is just a complete and total insane topic. The fact that we debate this is mind blowing.

[Libby Emmons]

It is kind of. Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

We look to my Canadian friends. I know we made fun of you quite a bit tonight, but I have to admit, the United States is a largely unserious people as well. We may be tougher than you because we did elect Trump.

[Amber Duke]

Fine people on both sides.

[Tim Cast]

Yes. You are a silly people. We are also a silly people, but slightly less, to be fair.

[Phil Labonte]

Admiral Rachel Levine.

[Amber Duke]

Oh.

[Tim Cast]

Also removed. Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Thank God.

[Libby Emmons]

I don't think so, because they're in the. He's in the National Health.

[Phil Labonte]

He should never.

[Tim Cast]

I thought there was a ruling saying Trump could fire.

[Libby Emmons]

I saw something about that, and it appeared on a lot of people's Twitter posts, and I couldn't actually find it in real life.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, you're right. I'm looking for it now. I see nothing.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it's just a bunch of Twitter posts. It was all.

[Tim Cast]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Libby Emmons]

Excited about it?

[Tim Cast]

No. I think people might be saying this. This ruling would allow Trump to fire.

[Libby Emmons]

Rachel Levine, but Rachel Levine is in the health service.

[Phil Labonte]

Doesn't matter.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it already is fired.

[Phil Labonte]

Thank God.

[Libby Emmons]

Right? Because they're not the, the deputy or assistant Health and Human Services secretary anymore.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[Libby Emmons]

In the government.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, but it's a.

[Libby Emmons]

Hell, it's like a first admiral in the health. Some sort of health service.

[Amber Duke]

First four star female, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, not even female. Insane crazy person.

[Libby Emmons]

But they said female.

[Amber Duke]

They kept saying what they said first female.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't care.

[Libby Emmons]

Like I don't lies.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

How sick of being lied to are you?

[Tim Cast]

But here's, here's, here's the thing. More we joke and laugh about it. 50 to 100 years from now, if the woke win, no one will know this is a man now because they rewrite all the articles to say she and her and first female.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, yeah, you have to be careful about that and not lie. I mean, you just can't lie it.

[Tim Cast]

So they even remove. Rachel Levine's name is removed from the Wikipedia, right? Look, if I changed my name to Phil labonte, the Wikipedia would say Phil labonte, born Timothy Pool. But if you are trans, they remove the history of your name.

[Amber Duke]

Well.

[Libby Emmons]

And they make it like illegal for you to use the person's name. You know, they do that too. Look, there was absolutely out of control.

[Phil Labonte]

I, I tweeted this just, just like yesterday or earlier today. There is a fairly famous trans woman that is saying the, you know, the, the batshit crazy thing of if you don't like trans women, you don't like women. That is not even within the realm of sane. That is so crazy. And that is why the trans, the trans movement is going to fall apart. You are not going to get lesbians to accept that they must have sex with a person with a penis to the only way. It's insane.

[Tim Cast]

I, I had a friend when I, I haven't talked to this person since this point. I lost a friend over this man. This is probably 10 years ago. She was saying that trans women are women and trans men are men. And I'm talking to her and I was like, well, I mean, you know, like the trans women is a trans woman. And she's like, no, they're women. And I was like. I was like, but come on.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, you know, what are they transitioning from?

[Tim Cast]

I was like, you know, you're not, you're not saying literally. She's like, yes. And I was like, so you like men? She's like, yes. And I'm like, so you would be in a relationship with a trans man? She's like, yes, it's a man. And I was like, but they got lady parts. She was like, so? And I was like, are you into that? She was like, I could learn too.

[Amber Duke]

Oh.

[Tim Cast]

And then I was like, oh, my God. So you're into conversion therapy. She snapped. And then she was like, you are. What is wrong with you? Why are you even bringing this stuff up? And I'm like, you were. You were bringing it up and I'm just having a conversation with you. And that was the last time we ever talked.

[Phil Labonte]

What's wrong with crazy you? She asked, what's wrong with you? She's the one that is actually making the insane statements.

[Tim Cast]

I just told her she was gay.

[Amber Duke]

I was reading some articles recently about ending gender affirming care, as they call it, and then Separate Bill about conversion therapy. And I started to get confused because I was like, aren't they the same thing? But there's actually a lot of news organizations now to your point about, like, they don't say trans woman anymore. It's just woman. A lot of news organizations like the Washington Post and Politico have gotten away with all signifiers of someone being transgender. So you're not allowed to say biological man or biological woman. You're not allowed to say identifies as or born as, because it all implies that the person is not actually the gender that they claim to be.

[Phil Labonte]

Guess what?

[Tim Cast]

Guess what?

[Libby Emmons]

It's just lies.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

That's how you end up with like, you know, this female, like female, you know, woman, teacher, rape, stupid.

[Tim Cast]

Well, here's the problem. Conservatives will say a transgender male to mean a guy who wants to be a woman. But to a liberal, they're hearing a trans man who's a female who wants to be a male because you have.

[Libby Emmons]

To do mental jumping jacks.

[Tim Cast]

I'm just gonna. I'll say for now on, I'm just going to refer to when someone is female and then undergoes, you know, drugs or surgery to appear male, or if they're male and do the same thing, to be female. I'm going to call it conversion.

[Libby Emmons]

It is conversion. Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. So you're undergoing conversion.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and I was interesting too. Like, did you see. So Robert De Niro's 29 year old son came out as trans recently and was talking about how when he was a kid, he never heard anybody say that he was just right just the way he is. And you know, that if he'd heard that, then he would have felt better about himself coming out as trans. Maybe he would have come out trans Sooner. But being trans is thinking that there's something wrong with you. Otherwise you wouldn't need to take a bunch of weird drugs to mess up your whole body.

[Phil Labonte]

I saw a great picture of Robert De Niro and his kid and Clint Eastwood and his kid. Clint Eastwood's kid is a normal dude.

[Tim Cast]

He's a man.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah, he's a man.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

But he looks totally normal. And Robert De Niro's kid is obviously an insane person.

[Libby Emmons]

And obviously an insane person. Yeah. And there's so many of these insane children in Hollywood.

[Amber Duke]

Yes.

[Tim Cast]

Well, Bill Maher made a great point. He said, what are we doing? Because it's not happening in Ohio, but it is happening in California.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, it is happening in Ohio. It's happening all over the place.

[Tim Cast]

He's pointing out the numbers.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

In California, it's like 30%. In Ohio, it's like 2.

[Amber Duke]

Well, apparently, Virginia has the highest. Virginia has the highest per capita trans rate in the country, apparently.

[Libby Emmons]

Is that because of all the private.

[Amber Duke]

Schools in D.C. i think it's probably like a Nova thing.

[Phil Labonte]

Wait, was.

[Tim Cast]

I don't know. I think. I think it might just be that Virginia. I do think there's two big components, and they're different. I don't think men and women become trans for the same reasons.

[Amber Duke]

No, I think that's 100% true.

[Tim Cast]

Men, there's either fetishists.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Cast]

There's legitimate dysphoria, which, you know, some people, whatever that issue is, they have the dysphoria. And then I also think that some of it is a hormonal imbalance, which may cause the dysphoria, like a lack of testosterone, Low T guys.

[Amber Duke]

And so they don't feel like masculine enough, so they think they must be women.

[Tim Cast]

It's not that. It's that without their very low testosterone and very effeminate, and they behave like women.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

And then people tell them, you must be a girl. And because they're agreeable and low T, they say, okay. For trans men, people who are female, I think a lot of it is growing up in a society that demonizes femininity, tells women to be bosses. We in the United States tell young, young girls, to succeed, you have to be a CEO, not a mom. And so when they're growing up, they are being batted over the head socially with, be a boss, be a CEO, be independent. And many of them internalize that.

[Amber Duke]

A lot of it is also sexual trauma. A lot of young, young women who.

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[Amber Duke]

Who experienced sexual assault or persistent harassment in childhood use transitioning as a way to get away from the female body so they're no longer attractive to people who would take advantage of.

[Tim Cast]

I think that's what happened with Ellen Page.

[Amber Duke]

I think that's probably right.

[Tim Cast]

I was, I was reading a part of Ellen's book, Elliot's book, and the story very much is that she was mercilessly abused in Hollywood and raped and then all of us. And then, and she talked about it in the press, how she was beating herself and self harming and then this was her out.

[Amber Duke]

And you see, it's an advancement of the self harm.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, right.

[Amber Duke]

It's like the peak of self harm.

[Tim Cast]

And then it's a stay away from me. I'm not for. You can't touch me now. You don't want to touch me. It's sad. And you know, I think of it like with anorexia or bulimia, when we see somebody's anorexic, we say stop, stop. Like you need help, you need treatment. We're going to help you. But with a lot of these people who are suffering from dysphoria or trauma, like you're describing it, people clap and cheer them on. Yeah, say come on, come on, do it, do it. It's like, geez, man, it's like telling a person on a bridge to jump. It's messed up.

[Libby Emmons]

It is messed up.

[Tim Cast]

That's what the liberals do because for whatever reason, they're on the wrong side of everything.

[Libby Emmons]

So including euthanasia. Like in Canada, if we just go back.

[Tim Cast]

Oh yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

By 2027, the mentally ill will be able to request government assisted suicide to cure their suicidal ideation.

[Tim Cast]

Did you see the nonverbal woman who was trans? Okay. She couldn't speak and they decided she was trans. There's going to be an individual who's non verbal gonna go, what's that? You said you want medical assistance in dying. Well, okay, I guess.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, in Quebec, what they're, what they're doing now is you can do an advanced directive. So if you have dementia, you can tell your doctor that at a certain point you want them to kill you and they will just take that as future permission and just carry it out at some later point.

[Tim Cast]

A slippery slope.

[Libby Emmons]

It's not slippery. It's like we're right there. I mean, we're right, we're at the bottom of the slope, you know, like on the ground. The slope is all the way down. And here we are, New York. The New York assembly just passed Medical assistance in dying. I wrote about that for the New York Post. Full throated opposition to such horrors.

[Tim Cast]

Geez, man.

[Amber Duke]

Imagine having a condition where like 70 of the time you can cure it by running and touching grass and you're just like, nah.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, also in Canada you can, you can request maid for non fatal, incurable, non terminal incurable conditions.

[Tim Cast]

You know, you know, you know, it's, it's, it's crazy to me is that palsy. I think we're gonna. One of the reasons that I think they're introducing maid is because they know they're going to have a wave of purposeless, depressed people and it's going to be a lot of atheists, females who are single and childless and they're gonna, they're gonna say, here's your, here's your opportunity medical assistant dying because, well, that.

[Amber Duke]

Would be a huge strain on the health service, which is government run there and there's no kids to take care of them. So.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, Chelsea Handler said she was happy.

[Amber Duke]

Sure.

[Tim Cast]

I don't know, man.

[Phil Labonte]

Chelsea Handler said she was happy.

[Libby Emmons]

She's also the one. That's why she's always screaming, wake up on Saturday and get high and masturbate.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

And then go back to sleep.

[Amber Duke]

Pretty bleak.

[Libby Emmons]

It seems really sad and depressing. If that were my life, I would find that sad and depressing.

[Tim Cast]

Well, we're gonna go to your chats, my friends. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know that Uncensored Call In show is coming up at 10. You don't want to miss it. It's gonna be [e-mail] Timcast IRL my friends. Let's see what you guys have to say. Shane H. Wilder says Tim Cast's own Pop Culture Crisis is now simulcasting on Rumble. Go Subscribe. There are still a few kinks to work out with Rumble Rants and the Crisis parties, but Brett and Mary deserve a follow. Definitely. Pop Culture Crisis. It's a fantastic show, and if you haven't seen it, you're missing out. Let's see. Flan the man says, where is Mary? Something is indeed happening. Good point. Mary's, you know, she's like, I'm in the nothing ever happens camp camp. And now she's ragging on me because I keep bringing it up. It's not about Mary, though. It's about Gen Z in general.

[Libby Emmons]

She would definitely say the Gen Z age. What's the time period for them right now?

[Tim Cast]

I think it's, I think it's like 15 to 27 years old.

[Phil Labonte]

She would definitely say that.

[Tim Cast]

97 to 2012 or something.

[Libby Emmons]

So my son is, is Gen z.

[Tim Cast]

If he's 15 right now, yes, I believe so.

[Libby Emmons]

About that.

[Phil Labonte]

She would say this isn't happening because it's not happening here year.

[Libby Emmons]

Right. I think that's true.

[Tim Cast]

97 to 2012.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay.

[Tim Cast]

And Gen Alpha is 2013. Until now. There's a, there's different estimates for when Gen Alpha will end, and some say it'll be a shorter generation. They're basing this off of the technological and cultural developments of that period. What makes a group of people similar to each other? So, for instance, like millennials coming of age around the, in the early 2000s and starting without Internet and moving into an Internet era. Whereas Gen Z was born with the Internet as, like, they're, they're, they're, they're. By the time they were 10, the Internet was ubiquitous. And then Gen Alpha is after that.

[Libby Emmons]

Interesting.

[Tim Cast]

Yep. If we extend gen alpha to 15 years, the estimate is 48 million. That is a microscopic generation.

[Libby Emmons]

That's pretty small.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yep.

[Amber Duke]

Wow.

[Tim Cast]

Labor crisis. How fun.

[Libby Emmons]

Gen X, it was also pretty small, if I recall.

[Tim Cast]

But right now, Gen X is still, I think, 60, 69 million. Comparable in size to Gen Z. Yeah. Tri Jim says ATM nuclear war isn't that bad. You don't have to worry about global warming with nuclear winter, maybe Greta Thunberg will finally shut her yap n. She don't care about global warming anymore. She's Israel did You see, she had that video come out where she was like, we were, we were attacked or something.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

I don't know what it was about because I don't care what she's doing, but she didn't even care about climate change anymore. She's just like, israel, they're bad.

[Amber Duke]

She grew out of it.

[Tim Cast]

Well, I'm, I, I, I'm actually, if, if we can convince all of these global lunatics to abandon their cause and just hyper focus on Israel, it would end a lot of politicking, you know, for the better. Not for Israel, but, you know, well.

[Amber Duke]

Who cares about that?

[Tim Cast]

But like, look at Greta Thunberg abandoned her global mission. Now she's just like, I'm concerned about this small strip of land.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. She was supposed to be on a boat the other day going from Malta to try and run the Israeli blockade of Gaza.

[Tim Cast]

And yeah, got attacked, right?

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, the boat got attacked. But after it got attacked, it turned out that it also wasn't sailing under any flag because the Republic of Palau or whatever had revoked the flag. So no one would let the boat land anywhere at any dock because it had no flag and it had no insurance. And the, whoever the Prime Minister of Malta was like, if you let us check out what you're carrying on that boat, then, you know, we'll let you dock and we'll help you with repairs. And the people on the boat from the Freedom Flotilla or whatever NGO it was called, they were like, no, you can't. Come on, we're not going to tell you what we're carrying.

[Amber Duke]

We just live in the ocean now.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. And they can't die. Yeah.

[Amber Duke]

That's awesome.

[Libby Emmons]

And Malta was like, just tell us us what's on your boat. They were like, no, we won't.

[Tim Cast]

Creepy.

[Libby Emmons]

Totally creepy. You know, and all the press about it was like, oh, they attacked a humanitarian aid. And it's like, really? What it really?

[Phil Labonte]

If it was humanitarian aid, they would.

[Libby Emmons]

Have let them, they would have just told them what was on the boat.

[Tim Cast]

I've got a super chat here that I can't read. So I'm gonna save it for the uncensored portion because it's very good.

[Libby Emmons]

Okay.

[Tim Cast]

Michael says, I know that I'm late on this, but for a show that only has one basketball reference, shout out to Mugsy Bows. Tim has had a couple sick 360 windmill dunks from the free from the Free throw line over the past week. I. E. White House and Piers show. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Thank you, man. I really appreciate that. Super chat. I try. You know, I think one of the big issues. I was saying this before, like, the White House people were saying they thought I was a hermit. I wouldn't go anywhere. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, I flew to New York to go on Jesse Waters show, which I will be doing again in a couple weeks.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, that's nice. Yeah, you're killing it.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, they could.

[Amber Duke]

But you like to go to New York for it.

[Tim Cast]

Because if I go to New York, then I can go on a bunch of shows at once. And so we're reaching out to a bunch of different.

[Amber Duke]

Gotcha.

[Tim Cast]

So there's actually a couple shows I'm going. I want to go to New York and dc. We're here all the time.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

So, you know, getting out, but gotta do it. So Piers Morgan's team has reached out quite a bit and. Okay, did you guys see the. The. I gotta play this. I got. I got. I gotta play this.

[Amber Duke]

I feel like I know what you're referencing.

[Tim Cast]

You. You probably do, because it's going massively viral.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, I didn't know exactly what it is. It was all over my ex account today.

[Tim Cast]

Here it is.

[Amber Duke]

Which I don't know what that says about me, but I gotta play this clip.

[Tim Cast]

I was watch. I was watching Piers.

[Amber Duke]

Yep, there it is.

[Tim Cast]

Are you guys ready?

[Phil Labonte]

Ah, hilarious.

[Amber Duke]

Can you play this?

[Tim Cast]

What?

[Amber Duke]

Are you allowed to play this on this part?

[Tim Cast]

Nobody says anything nasty.

[Amber Duke]

Oh, okay, True.

[Tim Cast]

Actually, Mark Lamont Hill does use a racial slur. Okay, but where's the audio?

[Amber Duke]

Oh, no backlashing about this. Who can say things to white people all the time and they never get canceled? There's no backlashing about this. I want to live in a country where people are allowed to say what they want unashamedly.

[Libby Emmons]

And you can.

[Amber Duke]

You will.

[Libby Emmons]

Go on, then.

[Tim Cast]

Say it. Say the N word.

[Tim Pool]

You will not have.

[Tim Cast]

Go on.

[Libby Emmons]

Say.

[Tim Cast]

Go on. Say the N word. Go on. Don't invite. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want you to invite this woman to say a racially harmful term in front of me because I'm the only. I'm the only on here. So if she says it, I'm the victim of it. So please don't invite her for ratings to call me the N word because that's basically what it's going to be. There's a bunch of white people up here, you and one Uncle Tom on the left here. And ask her to say the N word while I'm here is ridiculous. You would not sit here With a Jewish person and say, please use a Jewish slur in front of this Jewish. It's ridiculous. I understand you don't have any bad intent peers.

[Phil Labonte]

I understand what you're trying to do.

[Tim Cast]

But we already know. I hear you. I don't want to invite a racial harm to me. I hear you. I hear you.

[Phil Labonte]

And I accept that racial harm.

[Tim Cast]

Thank you all very much. Okay, so first of all, he called Myron Gaines an uncle tom.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Which is a racial slur. And the funny thing is, in the. In the full show, Myron's like. Like, I'm. I'm the definition of an African American. Like, and he's like, no, you don't count your sudanese. Or like Mark lamont hill said something like that. It's in Africa. I'm like, he. He said. He said Myron wasn't black at one point or something like that. And then said like, it's basically all white people here. I'm watching this. I'm like, yeah's African American. He's. But because he's not born in America, he's an African to American immigrant. I guess. So he doesn't count as being black.

[Amber Duke]

Did the flag on his gun say the n word on it?

[Tim Cast]

I have no idea what it said.

[Libby Emmons]

I think it probably said bang.

[Amber Duke]

Okay.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. That would be my guess.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. Cause I doubt he would hold that up on Pierce's show. Pierce not gonna invite him back. But maybe. I don't know. Myron gets, you know, pretty offensive at times. Either way, that clip was wild. Pierce. Yo, buddy.

[Amber Duke]

No, the gun had the N word on it.

[Tim Cast]

Did it really?

[Amber Duke]

Well, according. According to everyone reposting the clip.

[Libby Emmons]

But where would you even get that?

[Tim Cast]

So. But I watched this on his show and it was blurred. So how would they have seen it? Unless Myron.

[Amber Duke]

I don't know.

[Tim Cast]

Myron showed people.

[Amber Duke]

Maybe he did.

[Tim Cast]

Well, because Myron might have it on his own show.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

But here's the thing. Myron's black.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. I don't know. I just gotta say, pierce, what were you thinking telling a white woman to drop an N bomb on your show?

[Libby Emmons]

That's so weird.

[Tim Cast]

Go ahead, say it. What?

[Amber Duke]

No, it also misses the point, which is she's saying, like, I want to live in a world where. And he's telling her to do it, but, like, she's making the. I don't live in that world.

[Tim Cast]

So, you know, I understand the point that Lily was making.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

And Piers, like, the reason I brought this up is I think the whole show was. Was I think it was handled poorly, largely on Pierce's point. But Lilly also could have done better. I do not respect the idea that you just want to go out and insult people and use slurs against them. I do respect the idea that we should have free speech equally, and one side of any racial group shouldn't be allowed to use racial slurs against another. And you have a double standard.

[Amber Duke]

And I don't want to see people have their lives destroyed over a stupid viral video when they're, like, a private person who's getting in this argument.

[Tim Cast]

I think. I think the challenge with it is, like, yes, I agree. The challenge with it is companies are largely like, look, you are well known for doing something that most people don't like, so I don't want to work with you. There's a challenge for, look, I run a company. I have a business. If someone who worked here went out in the middle of the street holding up some, like, really offensive sign and it was like, where the line calling for genocide or who knows what.

[Libby Emmons]

Mm.

[Tim Cast]

How am I going to run a business when advertisers are saying, yo, that crossed the line? My.

[Amber Duke]

It depends on your job, though, I think, like, what if she works at the local bank?

[Tim Cast]

Right.

[Amber Duke]

Does anyone care?

[Tim Cast]

No one's gonna know. And. And so for us, we're like, that's why I think if you're in the media space, it is different. Yeah, totally being said, the threshold for us here at Tim Cast is largely criminal. So we've had people here go on X and post really messed up stuff. And I'm like. And then I've had people tweet at me, be like, did you see what your employee said? And I'm like, I did, and you're gonna fire them. And I just put, lol. I don't think, you know, you're talking to, like, some. Someone on their own free time said a naughty word on X. What am I gonna do about it? Knock on their door and be like, hey, I police your life now because what is this communism? I don't want to live in that world. I want a private business. Someone comes here to clean my floors. I'm telling what they can or can't.

[Libby Emmons]

Say, yeah, that would be crazy.

[Tim Cast]

But that's the world that they want to live in. It's.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

World a lot of people want to live in, except when it happens to them and then they find it confusing and they wonder what happened.

[Tim Cast]

Yo, that clip was hilarious, though, because Piers was like, do it. Say it like, Piers, you knew where that was going. You got two black guys on your show and you told the white woman to drop an end bomb.

[Phil Labonte]

Why should have.

[Libby Emmons]

Hilarious. Why?

[Amber Duke]

She's already said it before.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, Piers Morgan's show is like Maury Povich.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

He gets people to do outrageous things. That's part of his M.O. give him what he wants. Give him the clip he wants. Not like Lily cares, you know?

[Tim Cast]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

The whole point of that show is the outrage. You know, point of Piers shows is outrage.

[Tim Cast]

So I would love to do the culture war with zoom calls because we would get a lot more people if we did, but it doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work. Like, even when I'm doing these one on one interviews in the morning, it's really hard to have interaction because we can't really see each other.

[Libby Emmons]

No, I do those all the time. Like, I'll do, you know, like Newsmax or whatever from my house. And you have to, like, you have to, like, you have to just pretend that you're in person. And it's not easy.

[Amber Duke]

No, it's.

[Tim Cast]

There's also issues with time.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. The delay is weird.

[Amber Duke]

Yes.

[Libby Emmons]

Like, it's also. You can't say, thanks for having me. There's no time.

[Tim Cast]

Not just that. I don't know what. What their time is at.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. Because they don't come in your ear and tell you, like, we've got a rap.

[Tim Cast]

Right.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. Sometimes it does make it harder.

[Tim Cast]

The. The good shows will start playing, slow.

[Amber Duke]

Music will rise, or the host will start sort of politely interrupting you, and you can kind of. Like Fox does that. You can kind of tell.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, I know, but, like, that is crude in my opinion.

[Libby Emmons]

It's all.

[Amber Duke]

It's not ideal.

[Libby Emmons]

It helps if you know how long. Like, if they tell you you're on for like two segments and this is how long each segment is, then you can. You can like, figure it out on your own.

[Tim Cast]

You know, I went on Charlie Kirk's show recently, and they said, here's how we're gonna break down the time. And I have a clock right there. So, like, easy.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, and then Charlie at the end will be like, with a minute left, tell us this. And you're like, okay, I got a minute.

[Amber Duke]

That's always a good move.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

We used to have this podcast is supported by Talkspace.

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[Amber Duke]

Rising with me, and she was remote, remote in North Carolina. And it was so impossible to have a real debate because it was like she talks for three minutes and then I talk for three minutes. Because you can't have any cross talk.

[Tim Cast]

Right.

[Amber Duke]

The time delay.

[Tim Cast]

Exactly.

[Amber Duke]

It's just. Because then you just sound like a jerk because it sounds like you're actually interrupting them.

[Tim Cast]

Indeed. Let's grab some more Jeffrey French pods. Or is it pds? I don't know, Tim. It's China using Pakistan perhaps. Saint Miles says Hindus believe in reincarnation. They are afraid of coming back as a bug. Bug? No, I, I. That, that wouldn't work on me.

[Libby Emmons]

Coming back as a bug?

[Tim Cast]

No. Why? Yeah, they don't live that long.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, it's true.

[Tim Cast]

So it's like most bugs don't get squashed. Most bugs just be chilling.

[Amber Duke]

It's kind of die.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah. I mean, we, we have, we have waves of bugs here at, at the boonies in the skate park. The first bugs, I think we were stink bugs.

[Amber Duke]

Oh, I hate stink bugs. With the burning passion.

[Tim Cast]

But then we had crickets.

[Amber Duke]

Not so bad.

[Tim Cast]

Then we had ladybugs.

[Amber Duke]

Not so bad.

[Libby Emmons]

Those aren't bad.

[Tim Cast]

And we had wasps.

[Libby Emmons]

That's terrible.

[Tim Cast]

Very bad. The wasps seem to be gone and we're back now to. I think it's stink bugs.

[Libby Emmons]

I have a. Maybe it's a cycle. Maybe they're just reincarnating.

[Tim Cast]

I think they're all competing and eating each other in cycles.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, I have wasps. There's like occasionally wasps at my house, but they're paper wasps, so they, they're like eating my deck chairs.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, yeah. You know, I actually like stink bugs. I don't like the number of them.

[Amber Duke]

I can't stand stink bugs.

[Tim Cast]

They're hilarious.

[Amber Duke]

They look so insane. I don't know, there's something about their spiky little edges and the pattern on them. That freak me out, I think just because, like, growing up in rural Maryland, like as a kid and there's a stink bug infestation, like, the thought of that just really scared me.

[Tim Cast]

But they're super chill.

[Amber Duke]

They're also an Asian invasive species.

[Tim Cast]

That's true.

[Amber Duke]

And I'm a kudzu. The Asian lady beetles. Like, like.

[Tim Cast]

Oh, the lantern flies.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Those are gross.

[Amber Duke]

I just, I can't stand invasive species.

[Tim Cast]

I was recording a segment once and when I wrapped, I looked up and there was a stink bug and it was clapping, it was going like this and I was like, thank you.

[Libby Emmons]

You once freaked me out. There was a stink bug on my mic and you like, pointed it out and I lost it.

[Amber Duke]

I would freak out. I hate bugs.

[Tim Cast]

But stink bugs don't do anything. They smell bad.

[Amber Duke]

We put one in a water bottle once and shook it up and then opened it in front of my cat. Cat's face.

[Tim Cast]

They stink. Yeah, but. But they're chill.

[Amber Duke]

Like someone's gonna cry animal abuse now.

[Tim Cast]

Crickets. Crickets are chill.

[Libby Emmons]

No, nobody likes bugs.

[Amber Duke]

No, the cat.

[Libby Emmons]

A lot of crickets.

[Tim Cast]

A lot of crickets in here. The good thing about the crickets is that we could scoop them up and throw them to chickens. You know what I mean? I was thinking what we need to do is just get a chicken and let them loose her, run around. Because roosters don't care to eat. Eat. Because they don't make eggs, right? So they just like watch and they like look around all crazy as the hens go nuts and just attack everything. One of our chickens once ate a mouse.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, really?

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, they do that? That's wild chickens, man. They're crazy little dinosaurs. All right. Pinochet says if a nuclear war occurs, Democrats should immediately run outside to take in the view in the rays, get it over with. Haha. To be honest, we're not gonna get by a nuke. So that's just. Nothing's ever gonna happen.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not.

[Tim Cast]

Gio Coleo says Tim Gas should make several shows on nuclear war and survival and bring on some experts on how to survive nuclear war. There are several writers out there that are good sources. That'd be a cool culture war.

[Libby Emmons]

That would be a good one.

[Tim Cast]

Talking about surviving a nuclear apocalypse.

[Libby Emmons]

You get like a prepper on there too.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, yeah, I think we have done that before. It's fun. So how many cans of beans do you have? 5,000.

[Amber Duke]

They would never tell you. A real one would not tell you.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, they wouldn't tell you.

[Amber Duke]

Why? No, because they don't want people coming to their house for supplies.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Cast]

Yep.

[Libby Emmons]

Sounds like a video game.

[Phil Labonte]

True, though.

[Tim Cast]

All right, let's see. Jinx B. Walsh says. Please read this asap. John Bolton gave an interview on New Delhi TV last night saying India had a right to attack. Interesting.

[Amber Duke]

Shut up, John Bolton.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, shut up, John Bolton.

[Amber Duke]

Now I'm changing my whole perspective on this thing.

[Tim Cast]

Nicosia says, I've attended a gay wedding where one groom was Indian and one was Pakistani. Not only did I survive, I had a blast figuratively. Phil. Only in America.

[Phil Labonte]

Only in America.

[Tim Cast]

What do we have? Let's grab. Peter says, did Israel bomb a Yemen airport today? Also, World War Three. Question mark, Mark. I did. I think we did talk about that.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. The sauna, the airport.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I'm still in. No. On World War iii. None of these. The only thing that could get. In my opinion, the only thing that would. Would really set off World War III is if China decides that they're going to back the packs, because China and Pakistan have kind of an alliance.

[Libby Emmons]

I actually pack the packs. So they have, like, T shirts printed.

[Phil Labonte]

Up, say that Pakistan. If you say Pakis, that's. That's wrong.

[Libby Emmons]

No, that's racist.

[Tim Cast]

All right, Cowie writer says, what do you think the chances are that any country has successfully developed an antimatter bomb? 100%.

[Libby Emmons]

What would be an antimatter bomb?

[Tim Cast]

The. I believe as we know it right now, it would be the most devastating explosive, the most compact. When antimatter comes into contact with its opposite matter, it releases 100% of its energy.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh, wow.

[Tim Cast]

So a very, very tiny amount of antimatter is. It could create massive explosions. The issue is, I think antimatter costs something like $1 trillion per gram.

[Libby Emmons]

Oh. So it's either that or a defense department.

[Tim Cast]

Let me take a look. How much ANTIMATTER does the U.S. have? Probably, like, it's a microscopic amount. I think they've definitely got it. Nanograms.

[Amber Duke]

Wow.

[Tim Cast]

Billionths of a gram, obviously, because it's. You know, Fermilab has produced approximately 15 nanograms of antiprotons.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's really hard to keep that stuff from interacting with regular protons.

[Amber Duke]

Not very stable.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, it's not that. It's not. It's not that it's not stable. It's just. That is when it comes in contact with. So it's just negatively charged, and when it comes in contact with a positive charged proton, it annihilates and protons and those subatomic particles are all over the place.

[Tim Cast]

Oof and that is not nearly enough. It would be. You ready?.0000000064 tons of TNT.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Not. Not much at all.

[Tim Cast]

Yeah, a very, very small explosion based on the amount of nanograms Fermilab has. But what else? That, let's see. Okay. LLNL has 100 billion positrons. Has generated 100 billion positrons. That's a lot.

[Phil Labonte]

No, I bet it's not.

[Tim Cast]

What about 100 billion positrons? Yeah, but that's what they, they tell us about true. Oh, let's see. That is minuscule. So positron, it would be the equivalent of a single raindrop hitting your skin.

[Phil Labonte]

Because a positron is a pos. Positron is, is the opposite of an electron. An electronic is like one of the smallest smaller subatomic particles. Before you get to the particles. Well, I mean, yeah, it's, it's one of the smaller subatomic particles.

[Tim Cast]

I just think they ain't telling us.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. But it's not easy to make anti matter. It's not, you know, because if it comes in contact with matter, it annihilates and.

[Tim Cast]

All right, Nicholas Gonzalez says there's already a movie about invading Canada called Canadian Bacon starring John Candy. Really?

[Libby Emmons]

I love John Candy. He was funny.

[Phil Labonte]

He was hilarious.

[Tim Cast]

Arsenal man says, when the boomers die, who gets their stuff? BlackRock. Yeah.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. It goes into some sort of arbitration.

[Tim Cast]

Well, here's my prediction, and it's probably way off because of all the varials, but it's completely wrong. Boomers died. The housing market is going to be insane. A house today, that's 500,000 will be 2 million in by then. In the next 15, 20 years or more, Gen Z and millennials will have no money to purchase these, these properties for such extreme high prices. So the people who inherit them, which are going to be older millennials and Gen Xers, younger Gen Xers, older millennials, they will say, I don't care, I don't want the house. Just sell it. The agent's going to say, okay, we'll put up for 2 million. No one's buying. We'll drop it to 1.7. No one's buying. 1.4. Okay, we got an offer from BlackRock and Jen Z's gonna go, wow, I wish I could afford a house.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah. If I, I will. I will say, if I inherited properties from my mother, who has very nice properties, I would keep them and I would share them with my child.

[Amber Duke]

Agreed.

[Tim Cast]

So I Imagine, without saying where they are, they're probably thousands of miles away or a thousand miles away, where properties that you would inherit would be very far from where you are now.

[Amber Duke]

Mine aren't.

[Libby Emmons]

No. You know, east coast, but.

[Tim Cast]

So hundreds.

[Libby Emmons]

Yeah, hundreds.

[Tim Cast]

How do you maintain the house?

[Libby Emmons]

I don't know. I really. All I have so far.

[Tim Cast]

Laborers.

[Amber Duke]

Good, good neighbors.

[Libby Emmons]

All I have right now.

[Tim Cast]

What happens if visits? What happens if a pipe bursts while you're not there, House is gone.

[Amber Duke]

Well, you have to visit occasionally.

[Libby Emmons]

People have summer houses.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

Indeed they do. And you got to turn the water off.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. You go like, once a quarter and.

[Tim Cast]

Yep.

[Amber Duke]

And then you have good neighbors.

[Libby Emmons]

I mean, these are places I already go frequently because my mother is there on average.

[Tim Cast]

I think people underestimate how hard it is to maintain a house.

[Libby Emmons]

Well, you wouldn't. You have, like, a lot of properties, and it's insane. Yeah.

[Tim Cast]

It's ridiculous. Like, I have one. We have the old. The old studio, and, like, the AC was leaking, and then it's like, okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, look, we have to.

[Tim Cast]

Have staff who go there every day and run a checklist to make sure.

[Phil Labonte]

It'S a good idea to have, like, I've got, you know, my house in New Hampshire, and there are people that live there, and I rent it out to them. That's not a bad way to actually have property that. That is maintained or at least, you know what's going on.

[Amber Duke]

Yeah. You've got an eye kept on it.

[Tim Cast]

Indeed. Well, my friends, we're gonna go to that uncensored calling show. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Follow me on XN Instagram @timcast. Join our Discord server. You must get involved in the Discord server, because we just did that Members Only Culture War Live on Saturday. And it was amazing. It was so much fun. The crowd. We encouraged the crowd to heckle and boo and jeer. So they were just screaming the whole time at everybody, largely at the liberal guy.

[Libby Emmons]

It's like the Groundlings.

[Tim Cast]

It was very funny. And we gave everybody one and 20 dice signs to hold up. So when. If someone said something dumb, you'd hold up a one. And we're gonna do more of these, so be a member. It's gonna be a lot of fun. And you can get in the discord. You can ask us questions in the uncensored show. So go to timcast.com click. Join us. Get involved, man. Amber, do you want to shout anything out?

[Amber Duke]

Yeah, absolutely. So check out dailycaller.com and also, you can follow me on X at Ambermarie Duke and that pretty much covers everything I'm involved in.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Libby Emmons]

You can follow me on X ibbyemmons. You can check out what we're doing atthepost millennial.com and I would love it if you signed up for my newsletter. I send it out every day.

[Tim Pool]

The Post Millennial this podcast is supported by Talkspace.

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[Talkspace User]

I just answered a few questions online and Talkspace matched me with a therapist. We meet when it's convenient for me and I can message her anytime. It was so easy to set up and they accept Tricare. Therapy was going so well. My husband and I started seeing a couples therapist through Talkspace too.

[Tim Pool]

Talkspace works with most major insurers, including Tricare. Match with a licensed therapist [e-mail] military go to talkspace.com military to get started today. That's talkspace.com military.com libby and it's actually really cool.

[Libby Emmons]

We were sponsored this month by Merryweather Farms, who I met last year on an episode of Tim Cast and yeah, and they're awesome. So I would love it if you check out the newsletter. Check out our sponsor. Thanks.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. Our new record is called Antifragile. You can check it out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer. And don't forget the left lane for crime.

[Tim Cast]

We will see you all [e-mail] Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.

[Tim Pool]

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[Talkspace User]

When my husband came home from his military deployment, readjusting was hard for all of us. Thankfully, I found Talkspace.

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[Talkspace User]

I just answered a few questions online and Talkspace matched me with a therapist. We meet when it's convenient for me and I can message her anytime. It was so easy to set up and they accept Tricare. Therapy was going so well. My husband and I started seeing a couples therapist through Talkspace too.

[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Cast]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Cast]

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