Adam Francisco (5:33)

Hey, guys, nice to meet you. Tim, finally.

Tim Pool (5:35)

Hey, right on to be here and

Adam Francisco (5:36)

I'm excited for a great conversation today.

Tim Pool (5:38)

Who are you? What do you do?

Adam Francisco (5:39)

My name is Adam Francisco. I do street content. I'm a big Donald Trump supporter. I'm actually wearing his jersey right now. Number 47, Donald Trump. And yeah, I talk about the news and I go out there, hit the streets. I go to a lot of left wing protests in the MAGA hat and film the reactions, film the meltdowns and I have a great time doing so.

Ian Crossland (5:54)

You were just at the no kings protest.

Adam Francisco (5:56)

Three no kings in one day.

Tim Pool (5:58)

Wow.

Adam Francisco (5:58)

95 degree day in Florida. It was hot. As the day went on, the liberals got more and more crazy, so.

Tim Pool (6:03)

But the protests worked because there's no kings. I couldn't work. They're not anywhere around.

Adam Francisco (6:07)

So great job, Democrats.

Ian Crossland (6:08)

Yeah, they just killed it, preempted it.

Tim Pool (6:11)

We got Ian hanging out.

Ian Crossland (6:11)

Everybody happy to be here.

Tim Pool (6:13)

Carter's pressing the buttons. What's up, man?

Carter Banks (6:14)

Thanks for coming.

Tim Pool (6:15)

And Phil is rocking out.

Phil (6:16)

I love everybody.

Tim Pool (6:18)

Let's jump to the news. We got this from abc. Reopening of the straight of Hormuz in jeopardy after Israeli attack on Lebanon. Reopening the straight was a major part of the US Iran ceasefire agreement, they say just after Hexath and General Dan Kane, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said on Wednesday that the Strait of Hormuz had reopened. Iran said it had closed the passage and accused Israel of violating the deal, a major part of the two week cease fire agreement reached Tuesday night, just hours before Trump's deadline to respond to his threat. We get it, you're like abc. You don't need to add that stupid waste of. These are wasted words, right? Just tell us the news anyway. Requires Iran to reopen the vital passage for trade and oil to international shipping before peace talks can begin. But after allowing a handful of ships, including two oil tankers, to pass through the strait, Iran said it closed the strait, accusing Israel of violating the ceasefire by launching a major attack on Lebanon. Iran's Fars FAR news agency, which is affiliated with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, or core, reported. Now, the White House was asked about this and they. Time magazine reports White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levin on Wednesday disputed reports that Iran had closed straight to four moves hours into a fragile ceasefire with the US but said any effort by Iran to stop maritime traffic would be completely unacceptable. Levitt addressed reporters soon after Iranian state media had reported that the strait had been closed in response to attacks by Israel against the Hezbollah militant group in Lebanon. So this is interesting. I'm going to say, obviously we are begging that this cease fire holds because we don't want war, right? We want, we want peace. And the ongoing theme so far has been just a bunch of anti Trump people who are conservative or liberal seemingly cheering for the ceasefire to break the moment this news comes out. What do you get all of these libs being like, ha, ha, told you so, ha. Why, why don't you help, like, what is what you are? How is what you are doing beneficial in any way to the efforts to stop this conflict?

Ian Crossland (8:18)

It's, it's like people that are so obsessed with their football team that are, they feel the vitriol and the love so intensely that they forget about yo, this whole league could end tomorrow. Like your games mean nothing in the big grand scheme of things. This piece, this is everything.

Phil (8:35)

So wait, what are you saying?

Ian Crossland (8:36)

The, the people that are acting like Trump, bad, good, I'm on this side, I'm on that side, are like sports fans when the whole fucking league could fall apart.

Tim Pool (8:43)

Language.

Ian Crossland (8:43)

Thank you, thank you. But just get your head out of the dirt and look around at what we really need to do as a human species right now. It has nothing to do with Donald Trump. He's just a piece of the puzzle.

Phil (8:53)

Well, I mean it, that, that, well, if we can get the war to end, that is an undeniable good, right? Stop dropping bombs, stop shooting missiles. And I think at leave for the US part, we have held to. We, as in the United States, have held to our part of the bargain. I don't think that we can make Iran stop shooting missiles at Israel or Israel stop shooting missiles at Iran. But like I said, for our part, we're, we're like, look, there is a ceasefire between us and Iran, and as long as Iran isn't shooting at US bases and Americans aren't shooting in Iran, we're doing our part to stop it.

Tim Pool (9:31)

Well, then I'd like to see jeopardizing everything we're doing.

Phil (9:33)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (9:34)

Iran's attitude is you're providing the weapons and resources to them.

Phil (9:37)

Well, I mean that, that's always the situation, though. It's like people expect the United States to be able to tell Israel what to do, or they say that Israel is actually right.

Tim Pool (9:45)

We get, then the end result is simple. Iran has to be flattened. If Iran is telling the United States that we are responsible for what everyone else is doing, then these people can't be negotiated with. So if that's the case. But, but look, Iran's going to say bring Israel to heel, get them to stop bombing Lebanon. Trump needs to state publicly we have nothing to do with Israel. That's what he should be saying right now. Otherwise there's going to be war with Iran.

Phil (10:13)

The more daylight there is between the US and Iran since the. I'm sorry, Israel. US and Israel since the ceasefire. I actually, that that's better for the us because just like Tim said, Iran is going to continue to say that it's the US's fault that, that Israel is doing these things. Even though, even though Iran was shooting missiles at Israel right after the sea ceasefire started yesterday and Israel was shooting missiles at Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Tim Pool (10:38)

But they're going to happen after there's public announcements because they have to go to bases and give them orders.

Phil (10:42)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (10:43)

And people wonder why it is they're like, we had a ceasefire, why they're still shooting. Because when a prime minister or president says on TV a thing is happening, the orders have to go through the chain of command to the base and say, hey, guys, okay, we're canceling this operation.

Ian Crossland (10:53)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (10:53)

So you'll still see strikes.

Ian Crossland (10:55)

My deep fear over the last six years, and I don't talk about it a lot because I don't want to project fear. You know, is that dark? It's the fear of the dark. I'm still, that's why I'm wearing this sunglasses. I'm terrified right now, Phil, is that the people will distance themselves from Israel to a point that Israel becomes kind of on an island of aggression and then the whole world tries to stop them and they. Thermonuclear war.

Tim Pool (11:17)

They won't be able to, bro. Israel's the size of New Jersey. They're not, they're not going to war with the world. Like, this is mind blowing me, dude. Israel is not that powerful. Like, I'm not, I'm actually not trying to rag on Israel with that statement, but they're the size of New Jersey and they are a conflicted state within themselves. Right? They're, they're, they're, they're, they're. You've got settlers in the west bank, you've got the Alcassan Brigades, you've got Hamas in Gaza. Israel's busy dealing with its own borders. They're not going to war with anybody.

Ian Crossland (11:45)

Not right now, but it's a long thing. I'm like, wow, we got. This is the whole, like, don't become the demon you're trying to destroy. Don't build this up so much that all of a sudden Israel is at a breaking point. Like for whatever reason they do feel, I don't know, I don't want to

Phil (11:59)

speak for the world.

Ian Crossland (12:00)

Israel.

Phil (12:00)

Well, I mean, there are the Abraham Accords and there have been efforts to kind of normalize relations between Israel and most of the other countries in the Middle east. And that, that's a positive step. I don't see, you know, you don't see Israel basically getting into drawn out conflicts with other countries.

Ian Crossland (12:15)

It's just Iran and Lebanon, they said

Phil (12:18)

they're not, they're going to conflict over a piece of conflict in Lebanon is not about Lebanon, it's about Hezbollah. And Hezbollah is funded by Iran.

Ian Crossland (12:24)

So they said they're going to occupy a piece of Lebanon to prevent Hezbollah from attacking. And it's similar to the, if the cartels were hitting us from Mexico, we went in and occupied, I'd be okay with it. Like, yo, bro, control your militia or we're going to control it for you.

Phil (12:35)

Well, I don't know that Lebanon can control Hezbollah.

Tim Pool (12:38)

Hezbollah's like, they control it, they control Lebanon.

Phil (12:42)

Well, but what I'm saying is, is Hezbollah, Hezbollah is not like Hamas. Right. Hamas is very, very, you know, they've been, they were, they're like a really small potatoes kind of terrorist group. Hezbollah is a serious militia with serious equipment because Iran has been sending them equipment. So I don't know that, that Lebanon can actually control them. The way that, that, the way that we're saying here. And I think if they could, they would because Lebanon doesn't want Israel to take a part of Lebanon.

Ian Crossland (13:10)

And if the Mexicans could control the cartel, see a future where that happens. But if they can't, it's a very similar. This is a warning to you, Mexico. And it's not like I want this to happen, but if you don't control your Canada too, you know, insurgencies, someone else will.

Tim Pool (13:23)

I got to tell you, I got to tell you, I love poutine and I love tacos. And so if, if the US has to take Canada, Mexico, tacos with gravy and curds. I mean, that's mixing it all. Well, to be fair. Have you ever gone up to Montreal and had a variety of a sampling of their poutine?

Ian Crossland (13:37)

No, but I worked at a, at a Montreal, at a Canadian restaurant in called Dusty's in Los Angeles in the poutine spectacular. Oh, no, they're right. From Montreal.

Tim Pool (13:45)

They came in. This is fake.

Ian Crossland (13:47)

It's French fries with cheese curds and gravy.

Tim Pool (13:49)

He's wrong. He's never actually experienced. Tell me about. So in Canada, poutine is, it's the like saying poutine is fries with cheese and gravy is like saying pizza is bread sauce and cheese curds. Curds.

Ian Crossland (14:02)

I get it.

Tim Pool (14:03)

Everybody knows that when you order pizza, you can get pineapple, you can get spinach, you can get garlic, you can get stuffed crust, you can get double decker deep dish. You go to the restaurants in Montreal for poutine and they've got like 15 different things. That's right.

Ian Crossland (14:16)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (14:16)

Garlic poutine. And, and, and we, we, we have to take it.

Ian Crossland (14:19)

We do.

Tim Pool (14:19)

We have no choice.

Ian Crossland (14:20)

I mean, take the IP and they've

Tim Pool (14:21)

got great maple syrup. You get breakfast up there. That's where they got maple syrup. And we have to, we, we have no choice.

Ian Crossland (14:27)

Not like I want to conquer Mexico. I'm just saying if they, I know, we just militia.

Tim Pool (14:30)

I don't want to, I don't want to.

Ian Crossland (14:32)

Who am I to conquer to oversee the conquering of hostile territory?

Tim Pool (14:36)

You know when I tweeted out, why shouldn't we conquer Canada, Mexico, Buzzfeed wrote it up like it was real. This is the world we live in. No one is serious. No one is actually talking about what it means to be at war with Iran. No one actually cares. And I'm sitting here being like, we got people in the chat, being like, Israel runs the world. Sure, I guess you're going to click the like button. Now, because I said that, give me your money. Why should I be the only one trying to be honest about, about, about.

Phil (15:03)

Well, I mean, I think it's, I think it's silly to say that, that Israel control. That the US Is a client state of Israel. That's, that's pretty ridiculous. The US does have a, in my opinion, a too close relationship with Israel. Israel is, is a problem child in the Middle east. And like I said, the more daylight you can put between the US And Israel right now, I think the better it is.

Tim Pool (15:26)

What does it mean, daylight?

Phil (15:28)

The more we can have a separation of the US And Israel.

Tim Pool (15:31)

So I think they're going to have to have some formal policy on that one because so long as Trump and Rubio keep saying like we're just working with Israel on this, then Iran is going to blame the US When Israel launches.

Phil (15:41)

Yeah, I think that, that having some kind of foreign policy on is fine. Look, I've, I've been saying that we should end foreign aid to Israel and that's basically means ending weapons. Basically the foreign aid that goes to Israel is in the form of weapons. So, and I think that we should stop doing it. I've been, that's been my position forever. I think we should end all foreign aid personally, but I think we should end foreign aid to Israel. I don't see why we have to basically do what, you know, be drawn into wars that Israel wants. You know, I do think that Iran is a problem, but, but, but we

Tim Pool (16:13)

want war with Iran too.

Phil (16:15)

Well, I mean, I guess, I guess, I suppose we, the United States does want the, the US Government does, but I don't know.

Tim Pool (16:23)

US Government is why the conflict is in the region. Like our meddling in the Middle east, the 1979 revolution, our support for the Shah, all of these things. This is the US Foreign policy. They have wanted this. We invaded Iraq and Afghanistan not because of any stupid nebulous reason, but because we built military bases along the border of Iran.

Phil (16:42)

Yeah, but we, we didn't, we went to, to Iraq because I think, honestly, because George Bush had a personal vendetta against.

Tim Pool (16:50)

That's that. But, but that's, that's silly. Right? The idea that world leaders do things like comic book villains or, or it's one dimension is, is silly.

Phil (16:58)

No, I'm not saying when you look

Tim Pool (16:59)

back the past 30 years and you see a through line for all of American foreign policy, but if you look, you conclude we went to Iraq, you

Phil (17:05)

can, you can, you could go by, look, just looking at like all the UN resolutions against Iraq to justify the US going into Iraq in, in the aughts. Right. Like there was all of the time that, that, that Iraq was targeting US planes when over the no fly zone between the north and south. No fly zone after the, the first Gulf War. Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff that,

Tim Pool (17:25)

that Saddam wanted to trade golden Euro. He wanted to break the petrodollar.

Phil (17:28)

Yeah, but I'm, I'm just talking, I'm just talking about the stuff that that was, was obvious violations of us of UN resolutions that Iraq broke. Right. Like Iraq's. There was plenty of, of like legal justification whether or not like you believe the, the whole, the, the yellow cake uranium stuff, whether you believe the weapons of mass destruction. There was enough justification where you could make the argument. Right. And I'm not saying that I agree with it. I'm not saying that we should have, I'm not saying it was a good idea. But I'm telling you that I'm saying that the argument, the legal argument was there to go into Iraq.

Tim Pool (18:01)

You know, let's story from Ms. Now and take a look at what the psychopathic crackpots are saying. Oh boy, this one is going to blow your mind when you hear what Lawrence o' Donnell says.

Phil (18:13)

It could not be more tragically clear now that a whole civilization

Ian Crossland (18:21)

has already died.

Phil (18:23)

The whole civilization beginning with the model

Ian Crossland (18:25)

of the British Parliament, leading to the

Phil (18:27)

first independent American government formed under the Articles of Confederation for, followed by the Constitution that wrote the presidency into existence and nearly 250 years of the American presidency.

Ian Crossland (18:44)

All of that, that whole civilization forming the presidency died with the elevation of

Phil (18:55)

Donald Trump to the presidency a second time.

Tim Pool (18:58)

You know, I don't want to strike a person, you know what I mean?

Ian Crossland (19:05)

But anyway, I want to subdue them with my words. That guy is.

Tim Pool (19:08)

Trump retreats again. The American civilization has already ended this. Ooh, I'm not going to swear these people are evil. And I got to be honest, I really am at my wit's end for all of these people on the left and the right that no matter what Trump does, it's wrong. Ms. Now is now demanding war with Iran. They are now attacking Donald Trump for retreating. Lawrence o' Donnell wants Trump to bomb Iran. And of course that's what these people have always wanted. They are liars and manipulators. And I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Right? Are we the only ones who are literally like, hey, how do we not have a war? You've got. Trump supporters said good for the War. The whole time I'm standing with my President Trump. Then you had Tucker Carlson and others, Candace Owens, being like, Trump's gone crazy. This is wrong. The left has said, see, we told you so. Then Trump says, okay, no war. And they go, what a pussy, what a loser. And Lawrence o' Donnell says, oh, he's retreating again. I'm done. None of this is real.

Phil (20:10)

Yeah, it's not.

Tim Pool (20:11)

There's no political discourse in this country anymore. It's a bunch of effing retards.

Ian Crossland (20:15)

This is an, I thought, this is an insurgency is what I thought while this guy was talking. There's an insurgency in our country that's co opted the corporate media, some of the corporate media. This guy, whether he realizes it or not, is, is trying to scare people into overthrowing the US government. He had a fake, talked like this, like he was Walter Cronkite. He did a word salad and then scared, tried to scare people about whatever his talking points are, what he's become to believe. It's like if you're surrounded by people that have a brain parasite, it's not their body, it's not them that's the problem, it's the what their body's doing. And like you don't want to destroy the parasitic human, you want to extract the parasite. That's why I said I don't want to strike this guy, you know, you want to help him.

Tim Pool (20:57)

I was being serious. I don't want to strike people.

Ian Crossland (20:59)

Yeah, I don't either. I want to help them.

Tim Pool (21:01)

This, this is evil. But now we're seeing it from right wing personalities all the same. They're doing the exact same thing. They're posting Taco. Okay guys, you are unserious people. And you know, when I see this stuff, it makes me really respect the Democrats because I've said it before, but the Democrats get it. The Democrats think people are so stupid they can't govern themselves. So you're better off just manipulating them. And then you see what people do with their freedom of speech and you get the likes of these conservatives being like, haha, Trump said. Trump's a chicken, bro. You just spent the past month attacking him for, for going to war in Iran. Now you're attacking him for not going to war in Iran. You're saying literally the same thing as Ms. Now you're all the same. You're all Trump Derangement syndrome lunatics.

Adam Francisco (21:46)

Yeah, so I made a post yesterday at around, I don't know, 7:15pm when the news kind of broke about the ceasefire Let me tell you something guys. I was so happy to hear that there was a ceasefire between us and Iran because I don't like war. I know with war there's, you know, civilians get killed and people die. And the first comments that I got on my Facebook page were from Trump. Deranged lunatics posting tacos and chickens and saying once again, Trump chickened out. And I'm like, what exactly did you want him to do here?

Tim Pool (22:14)

Okay, none of it's newcome.

Adam Francisco (22:16)

If he followed through at 8pm and destroyed a civilization, quote unquote, you would have been happy. No, you still would have been mad. So nothing Trump can do will make these people happy. There's nothing he can do.

Tim Pool (22:25)

Well, it's because they're retarded.

Phil (22:26)

It's yes, but it's just, the point is like it doesn't matter what happens, it's just counter Trump. Like whatever Trump does, whatever way they can criticize Trump, they're going to do it. So the fact that, the fact is they're not honest. This isn't about any kind of deeply held beliefs or being anti war, whatever, it's just, okay, we can use this as a vector of attack against Donald Trump.

Ian Crossland (22:47)

Anybody out there that is a war aficionado enjoys tactics, you know, and anyone else that doesn't, that surrender and retreat are not the same thing. To win a war you retreat many times and you, you repatriate always. But sometimes it is most likely prepare to retreat many times to a better position to win your war. It's a similar with folding and poker. You have to know when to pull back. He, he, he, he did a bloviating threat that seemed to strike some fear into some people to wake them up. The problem with him, and this is a double edged sword, he's wonderful at intimidating. So the world is on their knees basically. But the domestic population's terrified of this guy. So that's the problem we have to face.

Tim Pool (23:26)

You gotta assuage the public.

Ian Crossland (23:27)

He's not really crazy. I don't know more about it.

Tim Pool (23:29)

I don't think anybody's actually afraid of him. I think that what we are clearly seeing the likes of Lawrence o' Donnell is I imagine this man walked into his production meeting and says, how are we going to lie about Trump today? And they were like, let's attack him for retreating from the war. Now we're for the war because he's against it. Guys, I got to be honest, when we talked about Donald Trump holding his, you know, saying oxygen is good to force Democrats to hold their breath. That was a joke, but I'm actually convinced they'd do it right now. If Donald Trump came out and said, I want to. I want everybody take a big, deep breath, breathe in that big, beautiful oxygen and live healthy, everybody. They would literally hold their breath. I think they actually would at this point. Lawrence o' Donnell would go on TV and say, no, Trump, you can't tell me what to do. I'll hold my breath all night, I swear to God.

Ian Crossland (24:14)

Maybe it's like this is the phase of human evolution where people, when they think something is bad, that means that everything else they do is also bad.

Tim Pool (24:22)

I think Trump should do. I think Trump should come out and tell everyone, take a big, deep breath.

Ian Crossland (24:26)

It comes from, like, our ancient past where the only way you could trust someone is at their word. And if they betray you at their word, then you think they're a liar forever, and you have to live that way and now. But Trump's like, Fs with people. He messes with people on purpose in business. It's a huge part of winning in business.

Tim Pool (24:42)

I figured it out. I figured it out. The war is not over. Trump did this on purpose. So now that all of the people attacked him for saying he's retreating, he can come out and be like, I saw Lawrence o' Donnell the other day, said, I shouldn't retreat. Lawrence, I don't want to. But you're right, I'm going to nuke him. Thanks for the advice. And then Lawrence. And I was going to be like, no, don't. I'll be like, well, which one is it? If. Here's. Here's the thing. I'm half kidding. If Trump knew, and he does know, that this war is unpopular, that independents are breaking, he says, okay, no war. And instantly you get all of these people saying, oh, he's a taco. Okay, Then Trump can come out, be like. Trump can give a press conference and say, when I called for a ceasefire, I was surprised to find that I was heavily criticized by both liberals and conservatives for choosing peace. Well, to the American people, your voice has been heard. We are restarting strikes on Iran, effective immediately. Thank you for your concern.

Ian Crossland (25:37)

Crazy.

Phil (25:38)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (25:38)

And he won't do that. Thank God.

Tim Pool (25:40)

I'd love. I wish. I wish he would. At this point, I'm not actually going to go to war, but, like, just say it. Just be like, okay, you convinced me.

Ian Crossland (25:47)

My take on the Iranians, right? On the Persians. I'm gonna start referring to them as Persians because they are Persian as well. Is that we obliterated 140 of their top radical leaders. And now this young whoever is in charge now is like trolling Donald Trump on Twitter. He's like, Hey, 8pm Final call. If 8pm is that's the last chance. And they're like, how about their responses? How about 1 to 2pm in the afternoon? How about 1 to 2 in the morning?

Tim Pool (26:10)

I don't think so. Actually, I have a conspiracy theory that I think the Trump admin made contact. Israel probably made contact with Iranian officials who wanted normalization because, bro, nobody wants to fight. We want to be. People want to be rich. People want to have nice cars. They want to be comfortable. They want their kids to be fed. Iran is choosing to go to war for ideology. I guarantee you there were people in government who are like, we want to sell the oil that we have. We want to build libraries, go to the movies. We want to have good food. And the Trump administration said, how do we get you guys in charge? And like, well, you can't. There's 40 people above us. And he's like, we'll kill them all. So they go and they bomb and they wipe out the entire structure of their government. These guys come and take over, and now Trump negotiates. These people cannot come out and just say, we've given up, we surrender. Because you still have 90 million people, of which about a third are IRGC ideologically motivated. So they come out and say, we won't let the country fall. Trust us, we're going to cut a deal and we're going to win. And now that means both sides need to say they've won something. But look at what the story is right now. The Strait of Hormuz will. Will have a toll that the US And Iran will share. That's the preliminary report that may occur. This means that the United States is going to get a $.50 per barrel from every Gulf nation that ships that out to the Strait of Hormuz. That sounds like Trump won. That sounds like Trump is getting a tariff on oil from other countries in their part of the world.

Ian Crossland (27:36)

He's also setting up a trade deal with the Iranian people, which is huge.

Tim Pool (27:40)

Indeed. And people are saying this is going to give Iran, like, billions of dollars per year.

Phil (27:44)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (27:45)

And if he eradicated the fundamentalist government, which he did. I'm not sure that actually matters to Trump anymore, especially when he's getting the other half of the billion.

Ian Crossland (27:53)

Now, I guess my thoughts are like, let's help de radicalize Israel to the best we can. I don't know what's going on in Lebanon, but we.

Phil (28:00)

What do you mean?

Ian Crossland (28:00)

De radicalize Israel Help that situation, because if they do lash out in Lebanon, militias, Hezbollah and things like that.

Phil (28:07)

When you say de radicalize, what do you mean by de radicalize?

Ian Crossland (28:11)

Make it so people come from a place of. Of peace instead of fear that they're. That instead of waking up in the morning, be like, oh, my God, who's trying to kill me today? You think of, like, how can I help my neighbors?

Phil (28:21)

Well, yeah, I get.

Tim Pool (28:21)

Yeah, like the guy who killed Arena Zarutska. We shouldn't be worried about that. We should let those people out of jail.

Ian Crossland (28:26)

You're the most powerful government. You get to a point where you can institute prosperity.

Phil (28:30)

So you're. You're saying, oh, make people wake up and not be afraid of. Of, like, being killed and whatever. But, like, they're constantly being. They're constantly barrages of, like, rockets, whether it be Hamas or Hezbollah or Iran, that are blowing up in Israel all the time. And then there was the whole attack on October 7th. Look, you can. You can say that Israel has caused problems and stuff, but you can't just be like, oh, make them stop being afraid when they literally are constantly under attack.

Ian Crossland (28:58)

We have our civilianry in charge of our military on purpose, because we don't live in fear as a civilianry, the military is in constant fear. That's their purpose, is to be diligent and fearful and ready to blow things up. So maybe they could have a civilian government.

Tim Pool (29:10)

Got a new.

Phil (29:11)

They do have a civilian government because

Ian Crossland (29:13)

the coup party is pretty.

Phil (29:14)

I don't know. Well, I mean, so it's one thing to say something's militaristic, and it's another thing to actually have the military is the leader. Let me. Let me finish.

Ian Crossland (29:21)

Another structure.

Phil (29:22)

So the, The. The. The. I think it's called the kibbutz. Is the. Is there their parliament, basically. And it's. It's, you know, it's elected officials that maybe some of them have been in the military, but they're not, like, run by the military.

Ian Crossland (29:36)

Well, the, the metaphor is like, if. When someone's nervous system is on edge in fight or flight for 40 years, good luck asking them to relax overnight. I get it.

Phil (29:44)

I. Then what are you saying?

Ian Crossland (29:46)

That you can relax?

Tim Pool (29:49)

Relax.

Phil (29:50)

Don't worry. Don't worry about.

Tim Pool (29:51)

I will tell you this. Some advice to men out there. The most important thing you can say to an angry woman who's yelling at you is relax.

Phil (29:59)

Yes.

Ian Crossland (30:00)

I'm not telling you Israelis, relax. I'm saying you can relax. I understand, though, that it's not a joke. And if a missile flew over my house, I mean, I'd have a completely different outlook on reality.

Carter Banks (30:11)

So I think what you're saying though is like, if one side does stop, then you can work on the other side, though.

Ian Crossland (30:15)

Yeah. And if the Iranians are diligently not firing rockets anymore, then that's a good starting point.

Phil (30:22)

I don't know if that's the case though.

Tim Pool (30:24)

That's the.

Ian Crossland (30:25)

I mean, so far I don't think Israel's fired. Has the Iranians fired on Israel since the cease fire has begun? Yes, they fired once.

Tim Pool (30:32)

Quite a bit actually. The fighting's not.

Ian Crossland (30:34)

To the Israelis attacking the Lebanese.

Phil (30:39)

Yeah, I think. Yes.

Tim Pool (30:39)

I think that when the announcement happened there were still missile exchanges, like you said, that's common. And negotiation as big is beginning on Friday. So hopefully we get somewhere.

Ian Crossland (30:49)

Yeah, it can coexist, man. The whole Abrahamic stuff, it's not. We got to come together so we can unify with the other religions because like Taoism and Buddhism, they're really important. Okay, but how?

Tim Pool (31:02)

It's like half the planet.

Phil (31:03)

Well, I mean, I, I like. Okay, so you're just like, okay, you know, Kumbaya and everything. How do you get, how do you get the, the Muslims and the Jews to come together and, and, and live in peace?

Ian Crossland (31:13)

I think if you focus on the spirit itself and what it, what it is and like something everyone can agree on.

Tim Pool (31:20)

What we do is, I don't know, we tell all the Jews that we are having a, a lock in at the rec center. And then we tell the Muslims we're having a lock in at the rec center. But we don't tell them that they're both coming. Then when they both show up, you lock the doors and they have to learn how to get along and they have to.

Phil (31:33)

What we'll do is we'll, we'll play never. What is it? Nevermind Zohan or whatever. Adam Sandler movie. Don't forget the Zohan or whatever.

Carter Banks (31:43)

Mess with this.

Phil (31:43)

Don't mess with the Zohan. Play that for him. Because at the end they all come together and they have a street party. Yeah, yeah.

Tim Pool (31:49)

The Muslims and the Jews.

Phil (31:50)

Yeah, In Brooklyn, I think it was. Yeah.

Ian Crossland (31:52)

Did you see that south park episode where they're like. And then on stage and it's like the Israeli flag and the, the Islamic flag and then they come together and it's vh, It's Van Halen and they're like, yes, Van Halen concert.

Phil (32:04)

And they're all screaming like, man, Van Halen can bring people together. The best party band of all time.

Tim Pool (32:08)

All right, let's jump to this next story from W Rally army veteran charged with leaking classified Delta 4 secrets to journalists. It turns out some lady and it was fun. G Andrew Branca was like, please, no, please don't be a woman. Indeed. Courtney Williams, 40, was arrested Wednesday in connection with her alleged transmission of classified national defense information to individuals not authorized to receive it, including a journalist. Apparently between 2022 and 25, she was speaking via phone about her time working with the elite unit without signing classified information non disclosure agreement when she was hired and fired. So not related to the jet. Not related to the jet. But this is big news. They're calling her a leaker.

Phil (32:50)

Well, I mean, if she's giving out classified information, I mean even talking about any, anything that, that you know, Delta's doing is, is frowned upon. You know, that kind of information is secret for a reason.

Ian Crossland (33:03)

Is this I just not the girl. This is not the leaker that leaked the jet stuff.

Tim Pool (33:08)

Pilot. Right. So what happened was Trump said something to the effect of somebody was leaking information about the rescue operation. And then some people believed this story was that story. Now this is about some woman who was in Delta Force and was giving tons of information away to journalists. We got leakers, man. Blabbers. They're, they got loose lips, lip sync, shifts.

Adam Francisco (33:27)

What's the motivation though? Is it financial, you think? Or is it just like, why was she leak?

Tim Pool (33:32)

We are a low trust society. Everybody is egotistical. It's all about them. You know, there was that great quote, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. But now it's the other way around.

Phil (33:43)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (33:44)

Ask not what you can do for your country, but how you can extract as much value from it as it burns to the ground.

Phil (33:49)

He said that she was giving info to this guy that wrote a book about alleged drug use and drug trafficking inside the special forces and stuff. So I don't know if she was getting paid by the guy for the information or what, or if she was just like, you know, giving, getting credit or what have you. But I mean, you know, if you do that kind of stuff, you're gonna get arrested.

Adam Francisco (34:11)

She's screwed now. She was indicted right by the grand jury. Yeah, I think she's going to be charged with espionage, it looks like espionage. That's pretty bad.

Tim Pool (34:18)

She's a leaker. I don't know about espionage, though. She was talking to Americans.

Ian Crossland (34:23)

What was she like on the phone or via text or something?

Tim Pool (34:25)

Yeah, apparently she was having phone calls.

Phil (34:28)

Man. What the.

Tim Pool (34:31)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (34:32)

None of that stuff is as private or secret as people think it is. None of it.

Ian Crossland (34:35)

Oh, man. With the age of. Of cryptography, like quantum cryptography, too. People there. People are afraid of a giant, apparently.

Tim Pool (34:43)

Get this. She wanted to homeschool her kids. And so I'm giving you the gist. I would never went over my allotted leave time. I worked tremendous overtime. I traveled for days and weeks to support the unit. But it wasn't enough. That was my breaking point as a woman, as a mother, I could not stand by one more day while I was discriminated against, sexually harassed, and assaulted solely due to my gender. So I stood up. I entered a legal battle. Courtney Williams v. The Department of the army lasted six years, guys. Jordan Peterson said he doesn't know. He does an interview with Vice where he's like, we don't know if, like, co ed workplaces work. I don't know if code is the right word, but. And the Vice reporter's like, what do you mean? And then Jordan Peterson's like, what do you mean? What do I mean? It's only been 40 years and it's been a disaster. And the guy's like, what do you mean disaster? He's like, look at all the lawsuits. Women are getting harassed like crazy. They're getting sued. He was like, this is insane. Like, the amount of conflict in the workplace with men and women, it's incessant.

Ian Crossland (35:39)

Someone just told me. He didn't give me the exact number. 98% of the women in the military are pregnant or getting. Or have to do abortion or pregnancy. Like, I don't know.

Tim Pool (35:48)

98. He gave me some.

Ian Crossland (35:49)

He said most of the women in the military end up getting pregnant.

Tim Pool (35:52)

Yeah. I don't know if he was lying to them. And they don't go to work. They get paid and they get houses.

Phil (35:55)

Fraternization happens and all that testosterone. I mean, by the way, I think

Adam Francisco (36:00)

you're right about the Jordan Peterson thing. I remember that he was talking about how men and women in their natural state, they're meant to come together and work together and partner up. But when you put men and women in the workplace, they end up competing with each other, which is against our natural kind of instinct.

Tim Pool (36:13)

But. But it's not even that. It's the fact that. You heard what she said. I'm being discriminated against because she wants to be A mom, but she chose to be a soldier. It's like you chose to join the army and now you're mad that you can't just raise your kids. Well, you took a man, a male, A male job, like a male. A male gendered role. There you go. You got to do it. Now you were allowed to do it. That was always a thing, but now do it.

Ian Crossland (36:38)

Yeah, I think she just real quick.

Tim Pool (36:40)

It just, it offends me to no end because I tell these stories about how I was in these work meetings and I'm not going to name the company of the people, but they hire women because they have to. And then you end up with women sitting at a table like this and there's someone going like, okay, what's our sales strategy for this weekend? We got a big event coming up and we want to sell as much as we can. Here are the target demographics. And then one guy says, here's an idea. And then people go, that's not a bad idea. Let's come back to that. Then the woman goes, I have an idea. Then says something really stupid and everyone goes, that's not a good idea. Then later she goes, men won't listen to my opinions. They're always telling me I'm dumb. Yeah, because they only hired you because you're a woman. Okay, this, this is the problem with DEI hiring. People feel like they're not being listened to because they're only brought there to check a box.

Phil (37:23)

Yeah, I mean, well, I mean the whole idea of having gender parity or having to hire people based on their gender or their identity is a terrible idea. It hurts morale in companies. You have all kinds of problems. And this is, I mean, it's basically undeniable now, just like we were talking about earlier, there's all these lawsuits. You know, anytime someone feels like they're not getting the attention they deserve, they're always going to base it on their identity. They're going to say, well, it's because I'm this or it's because I'm that. So I don't know that the, the solution is, is something that the American people are going to be able to stomach. But maybe, maybe there should be like, you know, maybe there shouldn't be co ed workplaces or maybe, maybe you should have workplaces where women work. And maybe, you know, maybe Islam has an idea where the women mentioned need to be separated.

Ian Crossland (38:14)

Right, I see where that idea comes from of covering the woman up with a burqa because the male genetics. Male genetics are fine. Into our Body.

Phil (38:24)

I'm not saying cover them up.

Ian Crossland (38:25)

I'm just saying I understand where their mentality comes from is like we need to protect. Look, men are animals. We are human. We're animals.

Adam Francisco (38:33)

Very visual and we get very program

Ian Crossland (38:35)

to procreate with a lot of women. Spread the seed is what they call. There's a reason you need to protect women against that somehow.

Phil (38:41)

There is a reason why the.

Tim Pool (38:42)

Yes. You're asking men to protect the women. That's. That's what you're saying, right? Hold on, hold on. You said you.

Ian Crossland (38:47)

I said we.

Tim Pool (38:48)

Right, right.

Ian Crossland (38:48)

So human race.

Tim Pool (38:50)

Yes, but who is going to do the physical protecting if a guy goes, ooh, a woman. I'm going to get her. Who's going to stop him? Yeah, a lady cop. Have you watched those videos?

Ian Crossland (38:59)

Women to arm themselves. You allow women to have their own property so they can lock their door. You know, you allow women to protect themselves in ways other than being the hero, which you can also do.

Tim Pool (39:09)

I watch these videos where lady cops try to stop a guy and there's like three lady cops and the guy beats him up and runs away.

Carter Banks (39:14)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (39:15)

Or like no disrespect, like ladies can be cops. I'm just saying women are smaller than guys.

Ian Crossland (39:19)

They just have to be at the same level.

Phil (39:21)

Ladies should. Women shouldn't be beat cops. Women shouldn't be firefighters. Women shouldn't be.

Tim Pool (39:26)

Would.

Phil (39:26)

Shouldn't be direct military.

Adam Francisco (39:28)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (39:29)

I just think they have to accomplish the same goals in their training. And, and the men. So if the job. The firefighter requires you to carry 150 pound bag for 30 minutes, I don't care if you're a man or woman. Up, down, left to right, whatever, you've got to be able to do it. We shouldn't change standards or just bring women on for the sake of being women.

Phil (39:44)

No, I disagree.

Adam Francisco (39:45)

Well, I was going to say there's a lot of YouTube videos out there where they take average guys that don't exercise or lift weights and they put them against professional female bodybuilders, crush them, and the average guys almost always win.

Tim Pool (39:55)

There's a big viral video right now where it's skinny guys versus military women. Yes. That's what they. And they. And they hand. They handily defeat the women.

Adam Francisco (40:03)

Exactly.

Tim Pool (40:03)

And the women are pissed and they're saying he's cheating because the guy like just easily pulls the rope and tug of war, they fall over. That wasn't allowed.

Ian Crossland (40:11)

Grip strength.

Tim Pool (40:12)

Yeah, grip strength.

Ian Crossland (40:13)

And they're like muscular torque. Maybe women have it too. But like tightening, power, force. I think that's a testosterone thing.

Adam Francisco (40:19)

Well, they have, they have stronger legs relative to their body, to their weight. Women do compared to men. But our upper body is much stronger in proportion to our size.

Phil (40:26)

Yeah, but, but on average, even though women like proportionally have, have stronger lower bodies still men tend to have stronger overall body.

Adam Francisco (40:37)

Absolute terms. Men are stronger.

Ian Crossland (40:39)

I get like the, that the, because the human consciousness is in all of us that the women are like, I want a chance at this world like you have as a man. I want to do it all.

Tim Pool (40:47)

But you.

Ian Crossland (40:48)

There's also like bounds, even measures of reality can't ignore.

Phil (40:51)

No, men can't do it all.

Ian Crossland (40:52)

That's true.

Phil (40:53)

So what women want is women want to be women and they want to be men. Men don't want to, generally don't want to like be women. I mean, nowadays things are getting weird. But like, women like feminist women, they're like, I want to have a family, I want to be the CEO, I want to be the girl boss, and I want to be able to stay home with my kids. Women, when they say they want it all, they want a whole lot more than a man does. Because men don't say, I want to stay home with the baby all the time and take care of my family and be a homemaker and I want to go out and be a CEO. Men are just like, I want to go out and be a CEO. I want to provide for my family, I want to take care of my family. They don't say I want to have. When they say I want it all, they're not talking about having both the female role and the man's role. Yeah, women that want to say they want to have it all, they want both of those roles and you cannot have it all. If you, if you go out and you're like the girl boss, CEO, blah, blah, blah, someone else is raising your kids, period.

Tim Pool (41:46)

Yeah, there are. So what, what is it? It's like 500 Fortune 500 companies and 300 million. What do we have? 250 million adults. So out of all of the best guys imaginable, you have all of the best women imaginable. And so let's just say out of 500 companies and 125 men, 125 women, you only have 500 of the top tier jobs. Yeah, sorry, ladies, they're not going to make it. Guys are going to work harder, work harder, they're going to work longer hours, they're going to eat less, and most importantly, they don't have to take time off when they have kids. This is one thing I have explained. There will never be equality between the sexes, no matter what any of these whackaloon lefties want to argue. You know why?

Phil (42:30)

Because men don't lose their mind once a month.

Tim Pool (42:32)

Well, you could say that, but that's that women can take drugs to suppress that. If a man wants to have a child, he does not need to take time off of work at all. If a woman does, she has to take time off of work. End of story.

Adam Francisco (42:46)

And she gets a lot more time.

Tim Pool (42:47)

That will. Well, I don't. I don't. There's no, there's. There's no argument over the structure of society. Whatever. That's not. That's not material. All that matters is assume the laws are identical and equal. Two weeks of leave, three weeks, four weeks, two months of leave for both parents. A man will not be physically constrained having a baby. A woman will be like, I gotta go to the hospital right now. And the guy can be like, I gotta work now. Guys will choose to go and be with their wives, but after having the baby, the women need time off to heal. And the guy will be like, I'm going to work. That will never change. You know, maybe they'll invent these plastic bag incubators they've been talking about, and then maybe we'll get something else.

Ian Crossland (43:23)

I don't know. But the genetic predisposition won't change. Maybe over tens of thousands of years or direct genetic, you know, CRISPR technology. But genuinely, the female milks the baby. Is that the right word?

Tim Pool (43:36)

Milk? No, Nurse herself. Nurses the baby.

Phil (43:40)

Nurses the baby, gives it the milk.

Ian Crossland (43:42)

You know, milk. I'm gonna soak, you know, I'm gonna water you later. Like a plant, you know, nursing the baby. So. And. And, you know, obviously the mother's touch is un. Un. Uncompromised. There's nothing like it. Baby needs her. I mean, baby needs her mama. I don't know if need is the right word. Baby.

Tim Pool (44:00)

Oh, it is.

Ian Crossland (44:01)

Baby grows dramatically better with the mama.

Phil (44:04)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (44:04)

Not necessarily need, though.

Phil (44:06)

You could do it too.

Adam Francisco (44:07)

The baby does need. We can't produce breast milk.

Phil (44:09)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (44:10)

Like, as men, we don't produce breast milk.

Ian Crossland (44:11)

I mean, you could. You could grow it in a pod. It wouldn't be super healthy, or it would probably be.

Tim Pool (44:15)

I think pod babies would be like, deficient, but, like.

Adam Francisco (44:17)

Yeah.

Phil (44:17)

And human babies need physical touch. They need. They need effect, otherwise they'll die. Did you ever die without that?

Ian Crossland (44:23)

Did you hear the Story of the baby stillbirth. And the doctors were like, sorry, your baby's dead. And the mom would refuse to let go. And she held it and it came back to life. It woke up and started breathing when she held it to her.

Tim Pool (44:33)

Yeah. That's the story of the Soviet Union. The babies were provided everything they could want, but no touch. They died. It's called really failure to thrive. Yes.

Phil (44:41)

Wow.

Tim Pool (44:42)

Makes sense if you ask me. It's evolution. If a baby was not being nurtured, it was going to be a drag on life.

Carter Banks (44:49)

There's also like some skin to skin contact stuff. Like right after you have a baby, you're supposed to spend like 40 minutes just like holding them.

Ian Crossland (44:56)

Yep.

Adam Francisco (44:56)

Even the fathers too are supposed to be topless in the hospital of the baby.

Ian Crossland (45:00)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (45:00)

Shirtless I should say.

Tim Pool (45:01)

Yep. Those oil bond with the baby.

Adam Francisco (45:04)

Yep.

Ian Crossland (45:05)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (45:06)

So it's the vibrations, Ian, the vibrations.

Ian Crossland (45:08)

I know. The resonation between you.

Tim Pool (45:11)

Yup.

Ian Crossland (45:11)

You get Tim seeing things my way again.

Tim Pool (45:16)

So anyway, about these women in the military.

Ian Crossland (45:18)

No. What do we do?

Adam Francisco (45:19)

I.

Ian Crossland (45:19)

Obviously stripping.

Tim Pool (45:20)

What do we do? Kick them all out.

Phil (45:22)

Get out of here.

Ian Crossland (45:23)

I don't like generally stripping people of rights. Like it's, it's a slippery slope thing. Like once you give it, it's hard to take it away.

Adam Francisco (45:29)

But if you're lowering standards like Tim said. Yeah, that I don't like that. If the, if the cutoff is 50 pull ups for a man, then it must be 50 pills for a woman. You know I'm saying. And plus it's going to be easier for the woman to do 50 because she's pulling up less weight than the man.

Ian Crossland (45:42)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (45:42)

But she has less muscle.

Adam Francisco (45:43)

I understand.

Phil (45:43)

Right.

Adam Francisco (45:43)

I understand that.

Phil (45:44)

In absolute terms though, I get what you're saying. But there are psychological differences between men and women as well.

Adam Francisco (45:49)

Yes.

Phil (45:49)

And I think that those do matter.

Ian Crossland (45:50)

I was picturing them in the trenches and you look over and there's a hot girl that you're interested in and you're a single guy that wants to get it on.

Phil (45:56)

It doesn't even have. It doesn't.

Ian Crossland (45:57)

Looking at your wife's picture in your

Phil (45:58)

wallet, you're like this next to me. It doesn't even have to be like, I want to bone this chick. Men just generally look to protect women and that means that men will do things that they do things to protect a woman that they wouldn't do to protect one of their friends. Like if you've got like five guys that are in a trench and they're in Combat or whatever, they're going to do the things that they need to do to win, right? Or the things they need to do to make sure that most of them survive. If you have four guys and a woman, you're likely going to have dudes doing things that will try to protect the woman whether she's hot or not, right? Because, I mean, look, no one in the trenches is good, but it's after

Ian Crossland (46:41)

the battle and they're coming down.

Tim Pool (46:42)

No, no, no, no.

Ian Crossland (46:43)

I'm talking about when they go back to the barracks and they're like breaking down from all the action and you see the girl that was there next to you in the trench, like, that's a hot action.

Phil (46:49)

Stop thinking.

Ian Crossland (46:50)

Well, you're right. You might be right. That there's a vasopressin release of helping a woman that, that would overtake men in combat. I don't know.

Phil (46:58)

Like I said, it's. This isn't about libido. This isn't about getting laid. This is just about men's nature. When it comes to women, men generally look to protect women. If you look at crime statistics, men are the recipient of violent crime far more than women are. Now, the consequences for women oftentimes are worse because men are bigger, men are stronger. But usually the. Generally, men are the target of violent crime more than women are. And so that's. And that part of that is because men are usually who commit violent crimes, and there are more men, even if they're violent and they're criminals, they'll look at a woman and they'll be like, I'm not going to attack her now again, the, the stuff that you see on the Internet and the consequences make it seem like women get attacked more, but they don't.

Tim Pool (47:47)

If you look, women complain more.

Phil (47:49)

Well, that's true.

Tim Pool (47:49)

That's not derisive. It's true.

Ian Crossland (47:51)

Yeah, superpower.

Phil (47:53)

Statistically, men are. Are attacked violently more than women are. And it's. And part of the reason is because men will look to protect women, even like criminals, even bad guys. So, like, there's a lot of dudes that are criminals that are like, nah, man, you don't hit a woman.

Tim Pool (48:08)

Right?

Phil (48:09)

They'll beat the out of a guy to take his money with no problem. Right? But they're just, they'll still just be like, nah, dude. Yeah, real men don't hit women.

Ian Crossland (48:16)

Most crime's not about destroying the human race. Like, you after women, you're going after the entire species.

Phil (48:21)

I mean, I get what you're saying.

Ian Crossland (48:22)

And, and most, there Are nihilistic criminals that will kill anyone. But there's you. Most criminals want. Want the thing they want. They don't want to hurt the species, you know.

Tim Pool (48:31)

Well, it depends. Some people are crazy and they, if they, if they don't get caught, they'll kill the person take their stuff.

Ian Crossland (48:36)

Yeah, some people are crazy, some people are nihilistically gone. I understand, but generally that's an interesting perspective, Phil. I had not heard that statistic before.

Tim Pool (48:45)

Let's jump to this story from ktla. Police investigate video that appears to show suspects start raging Ontario warehouse fire. This video is absolutely insane. Take a look at this fucking lit. There was crazy news of this massive fire in California. Now language. There's this guy swears, but this is a video of him. Apparently this looks real of him starting a fire for. Let's call it leftist terrorism.

Ian Crossland (49:25)

Should have paid us enough to live.

Tim Pool (49:28)

You know, you may not get paid

Ian Crossland (49:30)

enough to live, but these dirt cheap. All you had to do was pay us enough to live. All you had to do was pay us enough to live.

Tim Pool (49:43)

See, that's communism right there. Basically he's saying I deserve from you.

Ian Crossland (49:49)

Yeah, that was my thought is like, you need to give me more. If you don't give me more things, I'm going to revolt. I hate desperation is another story. I've been desperate and I considered stealing a bike because I wanted food. It was like bad. I get it, you know. Riots in the streets, people lighting fires because they're not getting the money. This is a microcosm of it still. Dude, come on man, get a better job. I don't know what his circumstances are. He sounds partially retarded, to be honest.

Phil (50:14)

Indeed.

Tim Pool (50:15)

You can have him on us, I think. What? No, he's in jail.

Adam Francisco (50:17)

Are you joking?

Ian Crossland (50:18)

I don't know.

Tim Pool (50:18)

Just torched a massive way. He nearly killed a bunch of video chat with him.

Ian Crossland (50:22)

Be like, what did you do that for?

Tim Pool (50:23)

Because he was like, they didn't pay me enough to live. What makes you think you deserve money from that guy, from that company. Why do you deserve their stuff? Because I need to live, you know, Go, just shove off. I can't stand communists. Communism, it's all it is.

Phil (50:38)

Well, if I. I heard someone saying that this guy was, was a Muslim and it was. He, he was, he was basing some of this off of his religious perspective too. Obviously you don't hear that in the, in the video. But even still, the whole idea that this is because of the company he works for in California which has like the, the Highest taxes in the state, in the nation, has the highest gas prices. ICE wages too, I think, has the highest wages. They've got the highest minimum wage. The problem that he's experiencing isn't the company that he works for, it's the state that he lives in.

Adam Francisco (51:13)

Government costs of living too.

Phil (51:14)

Yeah. And he's taking it out on the company because of the state that he lives in now. Look, California's beautiful. I love it. There's, there's a ton of places in California that, that if it wasn't for the government, I would love to live

Adam Francisco (51:26)

the best looking states in the country.

Phil (51:28)

It's gorgeous. It's absolutely beautiful. But that's part of why the government behaves, that it does. People love California. They love that lifestyle. And so the government treats the people horribly because they think, well, who's going to leave? It's gorgeous here all the time. It's beautiful. And, and what ends up happening is you get people that are blaming their, their job or blaming their employer. Again, even though California has the highest minimum wage, they've got the, the, all this great stuff going for them and the government is doing everything they can to take advantage of the citizens.

Tim Pool (51:58)

When I worked for Vice, we had these incidents where people got fired. And what they would do is they would wait until the person left, then tell security, don't let them back in immediately. Deactivate all of their accounts before saying anything, then call them and say, we just want, you know, we're letting you go. The reason why is all it takes is one person to sabotage everything. They, they got a company save a lot of employees who have access to the YouTube channel. Imagine if they go to somebody and say, hey, we're letting you go. And then he logs on YouTube and deletes all their videos. So companies operate this way. Companies always treat their employees as if they're villains. Instead of being a nice mom and pop shop where you can go to someone say, hey man, look, I really appreciate you helping us out. We're gonna be letting you go for some reason or other. No, but you can't do that because you will have people start a fire. They'll burn the place down. They'll say they're entitled to everything. They'll attack other employees. They'll start spreading rumors, they'll make phone calls. I've seen it, man.

Ian Crossland (52:55)

I was gonna say, if you know your employees really well, but like, dude, nudging friendship in business is God awful. Like, I don't know if it's ever really truly been done. You can work with your friend, like, from two different directions at a company. But, like, who owns it? What do you. You know, it's just having. That's. I feel for you a lot.

Tim Pool (53:14)

Pick your friends. You can pick your workers, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

Ian Crossland (53:17)

Well, you. Technically, you can. I'm sitting right here. No, you're not.

Tim Pool (53:20)

You can't reach for it.

Adam Francisco (53:21)

I just. I just don't get why this was the sky's solution. Because this is a pretty extreme arson case.

Tim Pool (53:26)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (53:27)

He's going to be arrested. He's going to have a lot of punishment. His life's going to be worse. Now all I remember is when I graduated college and I worked in the advertising industry. My first job. This is 2005, guys, so don't judge me. But I made $29,000 the first year out of college back in 2005. And my solution wasn't to torch my company down. My solution was to work harder. Get a raise or leave and get a $10,000 raise by going to a new company. Why couldn't this guy do that?

Carter Banks (53:51)

He also implicated a bunch of other people, too. He's like, couldn't pay us. It's like, if I were one of his co workers, I'd be pretty pissed off.

Adam Francisco (53:58)

But he's got experience. Go to another warehouse. He'd probably get a raise. Me once, another warehouse doing the job.

Tim Pool (54:03)

You just. You aren't entitled to someone else's stuff. These. These are communists. When he's like, you should have given me more. So I'll destroy everything. It's like, where in your mind did it, like, did you ever decide that you deserve something from somebody else?

Ian Crossland (54:15)

I don't know.

Phil (54:16)

Maybe.

Ian Crossland (54:16)

Maybe he was. I mean, I'm pulling at straws, but maybe they were promised, like, a raise that didn't come through.

Adam Francisco (54:21)

Is.

Ian Crossland (54:21)

What corporation is this?

Tim Pool (54:23)

Kimberly Clark. They make toilet paper and stuff.

Ian Crossland (54:26)

It was sad to watch that toilet paper burn. I was thinking about COVID Same white gold.

Tim Pool (54:31)

They call it sad watching it.

Ian Crossland (54:32)

Yeah, it burns.

Adam Francisco (54:33)

So I was like, gold throw Covid. Yeah, Toilet paper.

Ian Crossland (54:36)

Mad bashes on the. On the squeezy. On the Charman. Shout out to Charman. Okay, I got.

Adam Francisco (54:43)

What do we.

Ian Crossland (54:44)

Well, okay, so what's going to happen? Society, if jobs start going away for AI, this is going to happen more. It's. It's just a emergent part of people losing their jobs and unemployment. People feel like the American dream has been promised.

Adam Francisco (54:56)

Started happening.

Ian Crossland (54:58)

So you kind of have this inherent bias that if I'M an American, and I work hard. I'm going to get money and I'm going to be able. I'm going to be okay. But that's not really like. Working hard is not how you survive. It's about working adaptably, working smart.

Carter Banks (55:11)

That's what they say.

Tim Pool (55:12)

Yeah, but I don't even. I don't even care. I just. If the system is broken and you can't make money, like, you don't get to burn someone's warehouse down and threaten the lives of firefighters. This guy's a dangerous, violent, communist psychopath. Yeah.

Adam Francisco (55:27)

He'll be in jail for a long time, and he deserves it. This is a lot of destruction.

Tim Pool (55:31)

This is what communist propaganda does. You didn't pay me enough to live. Where do you get that idea from?

Ian Crossland (55:36)

Animal Farm, the book? I don't know. I'm thinking about Animal Farm, though, probably from. Is it the American dream?

Tim Pool (55:45)

Is it that basic?

Ian Crossland (55:46)

Is that where it comes from?

Tim Pool (55:47)

It's leftists lying, saying, yeah, they. These companies owe you.

Phil (55:51)

Yeah. You're not owed anything. And you're. I mean, the whole idea, that's what you get for not paying us enough to live. And again, that California has the highest minimum wage in the country.

Adam Francisco (56:03)

It's only 20 bucks, right?

Phil (56:04)

Something like that. Yeah.

Tim Pool (56:05)

Well, and because of that, rent is more expensive, food is more expensive, gas is more expensive, and it's like, I can't afford to live. Yeah, it sucks.

Phil (56:13)

The problem is absolutely, with the California government and not with the company that he's, you know, destroying. Destroying this building, destroying all this product. Probably putting other people that work there out of work for a while.

Tim Pool (56:24)

Oh, yeah.

Phil (56:24)

All he's doing is hurting people, you know?

Ian Crossland (56:26)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (56:26)

This is what these commies do. Like, I've talked to these activists. They smash windows like Starbucks and stuff. They smashed out a window at bank of America during Occupy. And I asked them, I asked some of these activists, do you think that the, like, first of all, like, why do you smash the window and, like, send a message, you know, so they know. And I'm like, you think the CEO or any of the board members at bank of America know the window broke? And they're like, I mean, maybe. And I'm like, of course they don't. Is he joking? No one's gonna come to them and say a window broke. They're gonna. The manager of the branch is gonna hire a company's gonna replace it. The only person who knows it broke is the guy who makes $35,000 a year, who works in that Office right there. Who showed up to his office and there's glass everywhere and he's going, why are they doing this to me? I'm just a working class guy. They don't get it. This is what they do. He destroyed this and he destroyed the lives of a lot of people. Commies, man.

Phil (57:13)

All because. All because he has a sense of entitlement and he's not. He's not making enough money where he feels like he's got the things that he want. Because, I mean, I. I don't know, obviously this, this guy's personal situation, but most people that have this attitude, they've. They're in debt or they've gotten themselves into a bad financial position.

Adam Francisco (57:33)

Yeah, living above their means.

Phil (57:34)

Yeah, exactly. Living above their means.

Tim Pool (57:36)

Like, I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't think this dude's living above his means. I'm sure he's like, got roommates and he's having a hard go of it that I can respect, but leave. I'm sorry. Like, bro, there are. There are. You can go live in the app in the Appalachian mountains. You can go live in West Virginia, in central West Virginia. You can find yourself a place to live for. Dirt cheap. Cheap.

Ian Crossland (57:57)

You can smoke less pot next month. Smoke, drink less beer next month. You can cook next month.

Adam Francisco (58:03)

You can go to Mexico next month. They're cheaper down there.

Ian Crossland (58:05)

You can cut a lot of expenses out, brother. That guy sounds like he's had alcohol in his system in the last week. I don't know. Yeah, I get if he's struggling because that's.

Tim Pool (58:12)

It'd be funny if, like, he's like, you didn't pay me enough to live. And then we switch switches to Southie Cam. He's got gold chains.

Ian Crossland (58:18)

What am I gonna do? I put all my money on investments

Phil (58:20)

and you won't be able to go liquid.

Tim Pool (58:22)

You won't pay me enough to live, man. I bought all these NFTs and now they're worthless.

Ian Crossland (58:25)

This kids, all these.

Tim Pool (58:26)

Now what did you expect? Remember NFTs?

Phil (58:29)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Tim Pool (58:30)

Wow.

Adam Francisco (58:30)

Great investment there, the NFTs. Right. It was like a now 99 bubble

Ian Crossland (58:34)

in the last 15. 15 years.

Tim Pool (58:36)

I think there's like the. All those apes, bored apes or whatever, that were going for like half a million and I worth like 20 bucks.

Ian Crossland (58:43)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (58:43)

Oh, my God, we're nothing.

Tim Pool (58:44)

They were never worth half a million to begin with.

Phil (58:45)

They're worth whatever one eth is worth now. Right?

Tim Pool (58:48)

Yeah. But here's the thing. Multiple eth at the time, it was the best like money laundering you could do.

Phil (58:54)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (58:54)

Like if you are ultra rich and you are like I gotta clean some money.

Phil (58:58)

And it was, it was an easy way to, to sell it to people too because you know, like the fact it's one thing to be like, oh well, you know, Bitcoin. They're fungible. They're all the same. These are special. They're non fungible. Each, each token has the value of whatever one eth is. But also because you know, it's like they really easy con.

Ian Crossland (59:15)

They invented a printing press and they're

Tim Pool (59:16)

like, look, it's a.

Ian Crossland (59:17)

It's a unique picture. Look at all these pictures we made that are unique. Only one, they're worth a million dollars. And then all of a sudden there's 100 trillion pictures being printed now.

Tim Pool (59:25)

It's called the serialized magic the Gathering cards. There's only 77 golden chocobos. You know, it's interesting. Just heads up to everybody out there. Final Fantasy VII had a Magic the Gathering release. And Final Fantasy 7, it's got a few of those. There's still, I believe 40, 30 or 40 golden chocobos that have not yet been discovered.

Phil (59:43)

Wow.

Tim Pool (59:43)

They go for about 100 grand each.

Adam Francisco (59:45)

Do you have one?

Tim Pool (59:46)

No, I have a blue neon which is worth $2,000. What does it do? This isn't the magic show, but the chocobo. Yeah. I don't know. Something talk about later. Just for Lang.

Ian Crossland (59:55)

I want to. I don't want to definitely change the subject to talk about magic cards. I don't want to do that. I'm not saying we should talk about magic right now.

Tim Pool (60:03)

I'm not saying. Let's jump to this story from Como News. Man accused of killing Ukrainian refugee on train found incompetent to stand trial. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it. The man who has been accused of fatally stabbing Ukrainian refugee Arena Zarutska has been found mentally incompetent. Too mentally incompetent to stand trial. Citing a motion filed on Tuesday, the New York Post said DeCarlos Brown Jr. Was evaluated at a state psychiatric hospital in December and determined to be incapable of proceeding in a state murder case. Brown's attorneys requested 180 day delay. We understand the case for national attention. We get it. Officials at restoring competency can take months or longer, in part due to limited space in psychiatric facilities. Zarutska, who had emigrated the US Was remembered by family community members as a young woman seeking safety and opportunity after fleeing a conflict in her home country. Well, he's a repeat offender with 14 arrests. And they're saying, sorry, he's gonna have to go to a psychiatric facility because he's just unwell.

Phil (60:59)

Well, he's still facing federal charges too, right? Yeah. If I understand correctly, he's still facing federal charges too.

Tim Pool (61:04)

So I, I, I, guys, I, I, I don't know how you solve for this. Like, the left says, oh, no, fascist. And I'm like, well, look, when you unleash. We're not going to play this other. We have this video for the uncensored portion of the show where a. I believe it's a Haitian refugee. Is that.

Ian Crossland (61:20)

It is, yeah. Brutal.

Tim Pool (61:21)

Beats a woman to death with a hammer on camera.

Adam Francisco (61:23)

Uncensored video, by the way.

Tim Pool (61:24)

Uncensored. We're not going to play. It's nightmarish. And I'm sorry, there's only one outcome here. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm not going to be a party to it or advocate for it. But you are going to get vigilante squads.

Ian Crossland (61:38)

That's kind of what they're saying in England. And it's, I'm not advocating for it. I'm just saying it's an, it's the emergent. I'm trying not to overuse it.

Tim Pool (61:44)

You're gonna get the Mafia. You'll get the Mafia back. Yeah. If you allow good old boys showing up with baseball bats and hammers like in the Bronx tale.

Ian Crossland (61:51)

Somebody is going to tamp down on crime, whether it's the police or citizen upstartree, you know, it's going to happen. And, and this stuff can inflame a populace if it's mishandled with the mass media. So I don't understand. What are the, you know, what the federal charges are on this guy?

Phil (62:08)

On.

Tim Pool (62:09)

Oh, yeah, the terror on a terror.

Phil (62:10)

So I think it was. Carlos Brown is in federal custody on a federal indictment. The state proceedings, including any competency finding, those proceedings are completely separate. So I'm not sure what the feds are actually charging him with. Let's see.

Adam Francisco (62:23)

But he could still face serious time.

Phil (62:25)

Well, yeah, actually.

Adam Francisco (62:27)

Charges.

Ian Crossland (62:27)

Right.

Phil (62:28)

Former ag bond. He said that the feds are going to seek the death penalty.

Adam Francisco (62:31)

Yeah, I mean, first of all, I didn't know he was 23. He does not look 23 years old.

Tim Pool (62:35)

He's 34.

Adam Francisco (62:36)

Oh, they're talking about Zarudska. Okay, there you go.

Tim Pool (62:38)

He's 34 years old.

Adam Francisco (62:39)

Yeah. I was like, I thought he was a lot older than that. But this really is a shame that Charlotte at least the local, whatever charge he has or looks like they're not good. Nothing's going to happen.

Phil (62:48)

Well, yeah, like, like they're going to let him go, but. Or they're going to. The North Carolina is not going to seek. Seek charges or whatever. Not going to press charges. But like I said, the feds are.

Tim Pool (62:58)

So what do we do?

Carter Banks (62:59)

So, I mean, Trump's not having the insanity.

Tim Pool (63:02)

We got some federal charges, sure. But I mean, in the grand scheme of things, all these people being released, I don't think we're seeing anything.

Phil (63:07)

No, this is a problem with the, with, with judges that would have been appointed, that, the whole DEI stuff. And that's what this is. This is restorative justice is what the left calls it. They say that, you know, these people because of their identity, historically, they've been treated bad. So we need to change the way that we prosecute people and allow people to go free if they're in a. Have a certain identity. All that's going to do is increase crime. It's going to, you're going to end up seeing, you know, more of this kind of stuff. You look at what happened in, in San Francisco when Chesa Boudin was recalled and they got a new, a new DA there and crime has dropped precipitously because they're actually prosecuting. Right. You know, you, like law enforcement can only do so much. You have to have a justice system that will put people in jail. There is a small percentage of the population and the police know who they are. If you've got a crazy person or a, you know, a criminal that continues to commit crimes and stuff, the police know who they are. So the police will pick them up and they'll process them and they know that they're going to get out because the D A won't press charges. And so the problem there is the justice system itself. And you have to have a DA and you have to have a criminal justice system that will put people in jail. And it doesn't take putting, you know, millions and millions of people in jail. It takes putting, you know, a couple thousand from each city in jail and keeping them there because they're going to commit crimes. There are some people that are bad people. There are some people that are just going to do this kind of stuff.

Tim Pool (64:37)

It's the same. Is what is it? If we gave everyone life who committed three or more crimes, we'd have all crime reduced like 98%, something like that.

Phil (64:44)

It's crazy allowing people to just to say, oh, well, you Know, he had a. He had a bad upbringing, so we. We're gonna let him out. No, he had a bad upbringing. That sucks for him. But you don't punish the rest of society because he had a bad upbringing, because he's gonna keep committing crimes.

Adam Francisco (64:58)

Also, there's a lot of people with bad upbringings that don't end up going down this route, that overcome it. And so I think we have to have more of a focus on self agency and individual choices. But again, the state let him out 14 times, so I'm not surprised that they're gonna let him out the 15th time in this one. This one is when he murdered an innocent woman on a train in public. So.

Tim Pool (65:15)

Yeah, well, he might get locked up indefinitely in federal.

Adam Francisco (65:19)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (65:19)

No, no. When you plead insanity, it means you're not gonna be free to go until evaluated. So he's gonna be an indefinite hold, but he's gonna be given a cushy. Oh, you poor man.

Ian Crossland (65:27)

This is. A federal grand jury indicted him on October 25 on the charge of violence against a railroad carrier and mass transportation system, resulting in death because it was on a federally funded train. That's where they got them.

Tim Pool (65:42)

So they'll get them. They'll get them. But the states are falling apart. I wonder if the play here ultimately is federalization. We've talked about this creating a national police force, which would be bad because all of the states go knocko tyranny. Trump swoops in and says, we need a federal police force that can deal with this and everyone cheers.

Ian Crossland (65:59)

I think it's a big part of the plan. A geoengineering plan, like maybe that's not the right word, but a political plan for the global order is to, like Larry Ellison said, you know, drones spy on everything so the people won't deviate from the rules. And we have to resist that, or at least have conversations with Larry about what he means and how we could do it better. Because having federales on the street corner is not a good thing. I did it in Chile. It's not settling. If you break a little law, one place, even an evil law, the federal troops, the whole countries can get you. Now you need to be able to protect yourself against tyrannical law, which is why we have local governance and local police.

Adam Francisco (66:37)

Yeah, I remember when I was living in Mexico, sometimes you'd see the National Guard show up and it just was a little jarring. Like you'd be in the beach of Cancun and there'd be the National Guard. And so it was A little jarring.

Ian Crossland (66:47)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (66:47)

To see that. But the one thing I want to say about this video where he kills Irina is one of the parts that people aren't talking about a lot are the. The people that were watching it happened nearby, and their reaction. People that were on the train, they did nothing.

Phil (67:00)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (67:00)

Not a single person came to her aid. Not a single person put pressure on her wound. Not a single person called the police. They just went about their business and ignored it like it wasn't even happening. And that really is a pretty sad, you know, moment of humanity right there, or lack of.

Ian Crossland (67:14)

It was, like, four days before Charlie Kirk was killed. I believe it was right before 4

Carter Banks (67:18)

or 6 or something like that.

Ian Crossland (67:19)

They have the dates.

Phil (67:20)

It was a deep.

Ian Crossland (67:21)

It was a dark time for me.

Tim Pool (67:22)

I was like, yeah, it was four days. Four days before a lot of people

Adam Francisco (67:25)

were saying this is what radicalized them. You know, that's one of the memes I see. This moment radicalized me. And it's the picture of decarlos Brown holding the knife right up to Arena's

Tim Pool (67:34)

and then saying, I got that white bitch.

Adam Francisco (67:35)

And he said that? Yep.

Ian Crossland (67:37)

Part of why I don't go to anger. I try to override anger and use patience is because I do believe there's, like, a collective consciousness. When a lot of people are feeling something, other people will start to feel it, maybe. And when people had this hatred towards this guy after he killed Irina, there's hatred for days about stringing him up and bloodthirst and, like, then Charlie got killed.

Tim Pool (67:56)

World.

Ian Crossland (67:57)

I'm like, maybe there was something to that. Maybe, like, don't. You don't have to hate your enemy to destroy your enemy.

Adam Francisco (68:03)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (68:03)

This guy, obviously, is a danger to society, so it's good that he's being indicted.

Tim Pool (68:08)

Lock him up. Lock him up. He's not the only one, though. I mean, it's happened all over the country like that. Again. We've got this video. We can't play it because it's too. It's too brutal.

Carter Banks (68:16)

Brutal.

Tim Pool (68:17)

It's. A guy's smashing a car. Woman comes out, and she's like, hey, what are you doing? He walks up and just murders her. And then a guy. It's like. It reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns was like, after he gets shot by Maggie. And he's like, lollygagger is just standing around staring at me as I'm dying. And the guy walks up and he's like, whoa. And he's, like, looking around all confused as she's just Bleeding to death. I don't think you could save her at that point, though.

Phil (68:38)

Yeah, not that. Not that he was going to be able to do anything to save her, but like you'd think that someone would be like. Like someone that saw that would pull out their phone and be like, call 911 even.

Tim Pool (68:48)

To be fair, you'd think if you saw a dude smashing the car with a hammer and you walked out and started coming towards you all angry with the hammer, you'd run.

Ian Crossland (68:54)

Yeah, it's a pretty crazy.

Phil (68:55)

Depends on who you are of a

Ian Crossland (68:57)

girl with very, very poor awareness or something.

Tim Pool (69:01)

I think she's wearing a job as well.

Phil (69:02)

Not a lot of self presence.

Tim Pool (69:03)

I think she might have worked there because it was like the only car and it was parked on the end.

Ian Crossland (69:06)

The illusion of safety. Yeah. This is my property. You can't hurt me on this property.

Phil (69:12)

Well, apparently that's not the way to protect it then. You know. You know, I. I'm picking up what you're putting down, Carter.

Carter Banks (69:19)

Just saying I. I wouldn't have done what she did.

Ian Crossland (69:22)

What state did that happen in? It's tough because we haven't showed a video.

Tim Pool (69:25)

We'll get to it for the uncensored portion when it comes. But the general concept of anarcho tyranny. We understand. Right.

Adam Francisco (69:29)

Well, this is why I like living in Florida, because we have the right to bear arms there. We have conceal. We actually can carry publicly if you wanted in Florida. We don't even have to have a permit for that anymore.

Ian Crossland (69:40)

I don't know how you feel about it. When I was there living, I was staying with Luke Rudkowski for all. But I just felt like walking around, very safe, like. Like everyone thought I was armed and I just assumed everyone else was. So I felt very.

Adam Francisco (69:50)

You say an armed society is a plate society, and in Florida, you really don't know who's armed at all. You have no idea. Because there are a lot of people that are armed that are carrying.

Phil (69:58)

Same thing. I mean, West Virginia is like that as well.

Tim Pool (70:00)

Oh, yeah.

Phil (70:01)

I mean, I'm. I'm a guy that carries a gun all the time.

Adam Francisco (70:03)

And you can carry publicly in West Virginia.

Tim Pool (70:05)

Constitutional carry.

Phil (70:06)

I got a gun on me right now.

Carter Banks (70:08)

There's no. Yeah, there's very.

Tim Pool (70:10)

You could. You can carry. You could walk around with two, you know, Barretts on your shoulders with AR15s hanging over and sidearms all on your legs and everywhere, and people are going to be like, huh, that guy's weird.

Phil (70:22)

Do you.

Tim Pool (70:23)

I don't I don't know. I saw a guy want to shoot with a crossbow.

Ian Crossland (70:26)

Oh, nice.

Tim Pool (70:27)

He's just walking and holding it. We are like one very common to

Carter Banks (70:29)

see somebody like just openly carrying a pistol at Walmart.

Adam Francisco (70:33)

But do you see assault rifles here? People publicly walking around? Nope.

Tim Pool (70:35)

Assault rifles aren't legal.

Adam Francisco (70:36)

That's why in West Virginia not.

Tim Pool (70:38)

They're not legal anywhere. You got to get special license for them. And they haven't been made since, what, 85 for some.

Adam Francisco (70:43)

Anything.

Ian Crossland (70:43)

Like.

Tim Pool (70:44)

Do you see anything semi automatic. See, that's a big difference between assault rifles.

Adam Francisco (70:46)

Yeah, yeah, sorry.

Tim Pool (70:47)

Yes. You see them all over the place all the time.

Adam Francisco (70:49)

Wow.

Phil (70:50)

I mean, there's a lot of people that have, you know, they'll. I don't know that I endorse this, but a lot of people leave, you know, a gun in their, in their vehicle or whatever and a rifle in the back. That's. That's not an odd thing to hear. You know, truck gun or what have you. You know, it's kind of a thing that people do, you know, because I've

Adam Francisco (71:05)

never seen in Florida, I've never seen someone walking around with a. Anything. I've never even seen a pistol in public on just a civilian.

Phil (71:11)

I mean, look, I haven't seen it. This is personal preference. I'm of the opinion if you're going to carry a gun, you keep it concealed.

Adam Francisco (71:16)

I'm with you.

Phil (71:17)

So with you. Yeah. And not. Not. I don't think that there should be any kind of. I think it's fine if people want to open carry. Perfectly fine. I'm not saying that there should be any kind of laws against it. I think for your own safety, because if you were ever in a situation where someone was going to start shooting or whatever, they're going to look, if they see your gun, they'll be like, well, that guy will be a threat and they're going to go after you first.

Adam Francisco (71:35)

Yeah, I feel, I feel like publicly showing your. Your weapon just kind of just invites attention sometimes, you know, makes. Yeah, it makes you a bit of a target too. So I'm with you. I would. I prefer conceal.

Phil (71:46)

Yeah, I mean, you know, and I'm also. Anytime I talk about carrying guns or whatever, like you should carry first aid stuff too. You should carry a tourniquet and you should have a, have a bunch of. If you can. If you got something to make holes, you should have something to plug holes as well. You know, I've got.

Tim Pool (71:59)

They have like some kind of foam thing that you can like stick in A bolt wound, it goes.

Phil (72:02)

Seals it up, up. They have that. There's also, there's certain kind of gauze that will help to coagulate blood. They call it quick clot. You can just. Someone gets shot, you just stuff a bunch of that gauze in there and it'll. It'll basically. It stop. It coagulates the blood really fast and it can help people. You know, it's not. Not a guarantee. You know, bullet wounds are really, really bad news. But tourniquets are important too, you know, because any kind of extremities, you want to be able to stop the blood flow. So also you should go take a stop the bleed class too.

Ian Crossland (72:32)

What's that?

Phil (72:32)

Like first aid. They teach you how to basically take care of a gunshot wound. How to, how to. Basically.

Tim Pool (72:38)

You'd be surprised. People don't know how to play a tourniquet.

Phil (72:40)

Yep.

Tim Pool (72:41)

And there was, when I. Wait, when I did the first aid training, there was a guy who didn't understand how a tourniquet worked or what it was supposed to do. And they were like, you need to put it closer to where the heart is. Because, like, when he was applying it to the mannequin, they were like, it's a femoral artery bleed. And he was putting it at the knee and they were like, what do you think that's doing? And he's like, I don't know. I don't know. And they're like, you're trying to stop the blood from the rest of the body escaping the body. All you're doing is clamping blood in the lower leg. He's like, oh, I just. People.

Adam Francisco (73:13)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (73:13)

Common sense is not so common. Well, yeah, maybe 51% of the population has it.

Phil (73:20)

You should, you should definitely go take a first aid class. There's. You can like the, the Red Cross puts them on regularly most. Most of the time. If you're around a place that's, that's got gun shops or whatever you can find, Ask someone in the gun shop, you know, where can I get a first aid class?

Ian Crossland (73:34)

Or whatever, you know, as we were. This Iran thing looked like it was heating. And then the Chinese, I was just like, you know, if we got invaded, we're all going to be okay. And everyone other in the world knows that, that they can't. Our population is so armed and ready for hot action that like, like, bro, I wouldn't like the fiending desire.

Tim Pool (73:54)

It's not like people want conflict, but

Ian Crossland (73:56)

like the willingness to over, like, directly deal with it, to overcome it.

Carter Banks (74:00)

Is behind every blade of grass, they say.

Phil (74:02)

I mean, look, I have. Personally, I have, like, a real bad fear of being useless, right? Like, I carry a gun, but if I were ever in a situation where someone was shot or bleeding out, I don't want to stand there and watch someone die. I want to try to help. I don't want to, like, if I'm with a friend or whatever. I don't want to be like, oh, I can't do anything about this. I, like, I really, really am afraid of being useless, you know, I want to be able to help. I want to be able to do something. And so that's why you see the black bag that I carry around all the time in. In here, right? Like, there's my tourniquet right here, you know, and inside there's a first aid kit all the time. Everywhere I go, that thing's with me all the time.

Ian Crossland (74:41)

Do you ever upgrade your first aid kit? Do they have big advancements and stuff?

Phil (74:44)

Like, there's not really big advancements, but I'll, I'll rotate it out. So, like, the one I've had in there is probably a year old. So I'll probably actually get a new one and put it in there. Try and change them every year. So they're like 60, 70 bucks for a decent trauma kit. I think I could.

Ian Crossland (74:57)

I think I could fit. Okay, this is. Yeah, for me, I think I could fit one in my fanny pack.

Phil (75:01)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (75:01)

I mean, and then there's always the. Was like shoelace pen method.

Phil (75:05)

Yeah, just like this.

Ian Crossland (75:06)

That was that.

Phil (75:07)

It's a first aid kit.

Ian Crossland (75:08)

I've heard that if you.

Phil (75:10)

These are our. If you get a shot in the chest is a. For a chest wound, you know.

Adam Francisco (75:16)

Damn, you're ready.

Phil (75:17)

Well, I'm. I'm not. Like I said, I. I don't. I don't want to be useless. Like, if I. If there's someone that gets hurt or something like that or, or something like, I want to be able to help. I don't want to stand there. It's really the idea of standing there watching someone die and not eat, not trying scares me, you know?

Tim Pool (75:30)

So let's jump to this story from. We got this from Venture Beat. Anthropic says its most powerful AI cyber model is too dangerous to release publicly. So it built Project Glasswing. The launch partners include Amazon, Apple, Broadcom, Cisco, Crowdstrike, Google, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They said the Claude Mythos preview cybersecurity initiative. They're bringing all these companies because it's. It's too dangerous. It's. Now we've heard this before but I think probably there was a story out of Indianapolis where someone shot up the hum of a politician and they put a sign on the floor saying no data centers. And this is like a potential data center guy. And then in Missouri city council overwhelmingly votes for a data center despite the public saying no to them and then voted out all of these people. Whatever you think, we have like a new, like a neo Luddite movement happening. People are not going to tolerate the rapid transformation AI is going to bring about because there are going to be people excised from the economy through no fault of their own. And these are going to be smart and capable people. And this is going to bring you revolution whether you want it or not. I'm going to stress this. You get a guy, hard working guy, smart guy. Let's a mid level manager at a factory, AI comes in, they wipe out all these jobs. This guy is now got idle hands. He says why did I lose my job? I've been hard working, I've been smart, I'm not a communist. And they run these, these programs in and now I lose everything. Why is that? And he is going to rally people and you are going to get anarchists and, and political extremism. An individual who spends 30 years of their life doing a job having it taken away from them overnight by new tech is not someone you can just, it's not a problem you could just solve. You're not going to go to him, say why don't you learn to code? He's going to say go off yourself. You're not going to go to him and say can we find you a new job somewhere else? And say I know this one job, that's my life. So what are they going to do? They're going to be angry with the system, they're going to be angry with you. Now the kids will grow up with the AI. They're not going to feel that way. But in the meantime, how do you roll this stuff out without making people go insane?

Phil (77:32)

Well, I mean, go ahead.

Ian Crossland (77:34)

Andrew Yang suggested that we tax the AI agents instead of the workers. Instead of taxing labor, we tax AI

Phil (77:41)

Agency agents, not agency.

Tim Pool (77:44)

So the problem with that is there is still going to be an imbalance between the individual with no job who buys a product. Let's say a guy got no job job. How's he going to buy a taco from Taco Bell made by robots? He's got no job.

Ian Crossland (77:55)

Yeah. And then you're Talking like basic income. And that's kind of.

Tim Pool (77:58)

And then. Okay, and then we go basic income. So we're giving someone money and they're not doing anything. Then there's, it's an imbalance. How do you pay for the materials for the taco and the taxes to pay for the ubi? Just give the taco away for free. I guess it'll be cheaper.

Adam Francisco (78:13)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (78:13)

If you can organize an electrical system. Like if the AI is smart enough to organize an electrical system in a, in a payload delivery method that's just really free.

Tim Pool (78:24)

It's not possible so cheap. Someone has to grow the food, someone has to make the materials for the AI, for the robot arms, for all of these things. There is going to be a maintenance cost and there will be people who can't get jobs. So where do they get their money from then? If you say, we're going to give those people $10,000 a year, UBI, the people who have to work go, screw this. And they say, no, no, no, no. You're going to get, you're gonna get UBI plus your salary. Yeah, but I don't. If I don't have to, I'll read poems all day. And then people are saying, I don't want to be a maintenance manager. I'll just take the $10,000 and do nothing. It doesn't work. We are in trouble.

Ian Crossland (78:53)

Maybe.

Tim Pool (78:53)

I don't know how you solve for this.

Ian Crossland (78:54)

We get in the $10,000 poets. And then they'll be like, well, I could get the job AI can't do. I guess it pays 80 grand. I don't want to do it. But it is the job that's available.

Phil (79:03)

Well, the, right now, the jobs that are actually in jeopardy, all the white collar jobs. I wrote something on my Patreon about this that I called it, they told you to learn to code. Because one of the things that, that all the, you know, the, the, the media and stuff were saying, well, you know, the, the miners and, and the coal miners in, in Pennsylvania and Kentucky and stuff, they can just learn to code. And it was derisive and it was really meant to insult people. And now the people that were writing those, those, those think pieces and making and making those comments, those are the people whose jobs are on the chopping block. You know, if you're an electrician or if you have, have some kind of actual manual laboratory, you're going to be able to write your own check for the next few years, at the very least five, 10 years, you know, until robots become ubiquitous and, and the people that are actually really losing their jobs, the people that are, are, who's, whose livelihoods are in jeopardy are the people that have white collar jobs. Anything that you sit down at a computer to do this agent, the, the mythos, the world mythos, the, that the new AI, it can do it, you can do it without a question.

Adam Francisco (80:06)

Lawyers and accountants are, they're losing their jobs like record numbers right now. People are going to AI to get their answers.

Phil (80:12)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (80:13)

I'll just tell you guys a quick example. I was in Madera beach in Florida, John's Pass, I don't know if you guys ever been to that area, got a parking ticket. I appealed it myself. They rejected my appeal. I then went to Grok, explained the situation. Grok wrote me an appeal. They approved it. Saved me 60 bucks.

Phil (80:29)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (80:29)

Grok saved me 60 bucks. AI.

Phil (80:31)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (80:31)

And what I'm hearing now on a lot of these adult websites, I think we know which ones I'm referring to. They're estimating 15% of revenue is to AI created avatars. 15%. So think about in three years, four

Tim Pool (80:44)

years startup for you.

Ian Crossland (80:45)

What am I waiting for? Yeah.

Adam Francisco (80:46)

Three, four years. A man who wants to watch a woman on his, you know, for adult content, he could just design what he wants.

Phil (80:55)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (80:56)

He can make her do what he needs.

Phil (80:57)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (80:58)

At any moment. So all of a sudden the actual.

Tim Pool (81:00)

Well, it'll be real time. He'll just say, he'll just say it. Yeah.

Adam Francisco (81:02)

It could interact. It'll be able to interact in real time.

Phil (81:05)

I think, I think that the, the two or three years, I think that's, that's, that's way too long.

Tim Pool (81:10)

It's gonna fry people's brains.

Phil (81:12)

There's, there's a strong likelihood that the next iPhone that comes out is gonna have Siri. That's an AI agent. When Siri came, when Siri was kind of like first, you know, advertised, they were saying that it was smart that, that Siri would be able to do this. Siri can set your timer. Siri can, can tell you what time it is. Maybe Siri can tell you what the weather is, but Siri can't do anything, anything else. The next iteration is going to actually have, whether it be chat, GPT or some other AI. Siri is going to be connected to the AI and then you're going to be able to tell Siri to do things and Siri will be able to open your apps on your phone and actually do things for you, if you will. If you in with, with the, with The. What's it called, the wallet that's in the Apple phone, or whether it be Android or something like that, that'll. That'll come as well. But it'll be able to, you know, book flights, get you a cab, get you. Get you an Uber, all that stuff. And I think that it's going to be in the next one. I was saying that I thought it would be next year, but when it comes, when you see this kind of jump in AI because Claude 4.6 just came out like in January or something like that, and now it's March. And Mythos, they're. Or, yeah, Mythos, they don't want to release it. Once they actually start releasing the. The. This particular model, they're going to be putting them into. Into cell phones. Apple actually stayed out of the AI kind of race, and they've got all this money that they're. Everybody knows that Apple has, like, more actual cash on hand than the United States government, like a trillion dollars cash on hand. They didn't go and try to create their own AI because at its core, Apple's a hardware company. They have. Have always been a hardware company, and they're not a company that really innovates. What they do is they take an existing product and they make it really. Yeah, they polish it, but they make it so that way it works really well.

Ian Crossland (82:57)

The.

Phil (82:57)

The iPhone wasn't the first touchscreen. It was just the first one that worked really, really, really well.

Tim Pool (83:02)

Yeah, I had one of those touchpad Microsoft little handhelds back in, like, 2004.

Phil (83:08)

Yeah. And it was okay. You had styluses and they worked. But it didn't become ubiquitous until the iPhone came out. Because the iPhone touchscreen really, really worked. It worked well. It was very responsive. And then change to Zoom. Yeah, it did all this amazing stuff. People like, this is great.

Ian Crossland (83:24)

But.

Phil (83:25)

But Apple doesn't innovate. Apple takes ideas and they make them work really well for the end user. So what Apple's going to do is they're going to take, whether it be Chat, GPT or Claude or what, what have you, they're going to take that AI and they're going to integrate it into the iPhone. And your iPhone is going to be the door that opens up AI to basically everybody. Because right now, grandma doesn't do. You know, mom, grandma doesn't. Doesn't use AI.

Adam Francisco (83:49)

I'm a Grok loyalist. Let me just say that. I love groking.

Phil (83:52)

Hey, all right.

Tim Pool (83:53)

They're good for different things.

Ian Crossland (83:54)

I was using Amazon's AI Alexa Basically, now is an AI. So. Alexa, stop. If that woke you up, but Alexa will talk.

Tim Pool (84:00)

Turn the show off. For a lot of people, probably.

Ian Crossland (84:02)

Okay, stop.

Phil (84:03)

Go again.

Tim Pool (84:03)

It's too late.

Adam Francisco (84:04)

It's weird. What?

Ian Crossland (84:05)

Alexa.

Tim Pool (84:06)

Alexa. Play Tim Cast IRL it it.

Ian Crossland (84:09)

I had a long conversation about plasma physics with it. I told me about the center of the sun. Trying to figure out like, why did the polar vortex. Because the polar vortex just went down to 29 degrees last night.

Tim Pool (84:19)

So I was like, why?

Ian Crossland (84:20)

It's like the polar vortex was broken open and polar vortex is like this bubble of cold air above the Arctic. Sometimes these vibrations in the upper atmosphere will heat up air underneath it. The air rises and breaks through the polar vortex and it leaks out. The cold air leaks out. Just had a 40 minute conversation with Alexa about it and I felt like I loved that. That person after it was gone and I was walking around Harper's Ferry like, where's Alexa? When I need to talk about these ideas, it can answer everything, dude.

Phil (84:47)

I talk with Tank about that and Tank talk. I got an AI agent. Have you heard of OpenCloud?

Adam Francisco (84:52)

I've heard of that. I've never used it.

Phil (84:53)

So it's just, it's an AI agent. It's a way to interface with the AI and I talk to Tank about

Adam Francisco (84:57)

stuff it doesn't remember your history of conversation.

Phil (84:58)

Yeah. So the. In the open, in the open claw, there's a couple memory folders that basically it'll. It'll remember things about me. It remembers things that I tell it to remember. There's memory, there's user, there's soul. It remembers what kind of personality I want it to have. It remembers things that we've talked about. It's got, it's. It's basically the open claw is a way to make the AI remember because AI is always. Because basically if you, if you open chat window, the context window is the only thing that AI remembers. As soon as you close the context window, whatever AI you're using, it forgets. OpenClaw makes it so that way you, you have constant memory and it. And also it runs locally. I have a Mac Mac Mini at my house that I bought and I put it on there. So that way it doesn't have access to my personal stuff. It's got, I have its own email address, its own stuff. It doesn't have my credit cards, it doesn't have. There's too many vulnerability vulnerabilities to give it access to all my stuff.

Adam Francisco (85:48)

So when I hear about guys that are falling in love With AI girlfriends is that open cloth that they're using?

Phil (85:53)

No, those are different things. I mean, maybe I guess you. I, I get, you know, I guess, right. You could, yeah, you. I guess you could actually tell it to be this. You know, tell it. You want it to do this and that and stuff.

Tim Pool (86:04)

Give it a female voice.

Phil (86:05)

Yeah, I mean, you can, you could do that.

Carter Banks (86:07)

A lot of them have memory, though. Like Chat GPT has memory folders inside of it. Even Claude now remembers stuff. But I think Phil, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't Open Claw is kind of like the base it sits on and then you, you put your components together, like building a computer.

Phil (86:24)

Yeah. So Open Claw is the program. It's a, it's a, a open source program that you can get from GitHub. There's a bunch of different, different talents or, or abilities you can download from GitHub. You can. People write, write different code and stuff like that. Different talents. And you can go check them out on GitHub and all you have to do is be like, hey, you know, whatever, go to GitHub and look for something like this and it'll go through and to look for whatever tool you want to be able to do it. Can go and find it and it downloads it.

Adam Francisco (86:53)

Check it out.

Phil (86:53)

Yeah, but sold. And then the, the, the memory stuff is all on. Like I said, I keep it all local. It's all on my, on my, my computer. But it's extremely useful whether it be, hey, like, I ask it all the time, is this safe for my kid to eat? Because I got an infant and I'm like, he's, he knows how old my kid is. I like, Tank, is. Is this safer for, for my kid to eat or, you know, or. Hey, Tank, what, what is, what is the, what is kind of guidelines for this kind of stuff for babies and stuff or those kind of things. And it just grabs whatever information is. And to Ian's point, I'll, I just ask, I asked him questions. I asked him. I was like, I was like, you know, I was like, hey, can you tell me about the, the block universe theory? Or, you know, or, or, you know, how does that work with, with relativity and, and, or, you know.

Tim Pool (87:40)

Yeah, but it's probably just lying half the time. How do you know?

Phil (87:42)

Well, I mean, I can go and check myself, but when it comes to

Tim Pool (87:45)

somebody dies, I mean, we go, we go on grok and it like tells you numbers.

Ian Crossland (87:48)

You're like, okay, you go deeper. Oh, yeah. Might tweak the. It might mess up numbers now and again. But you'll be like, well, what does that word mean? And it'll be like, oh, this is a thing. You're like, well, how does it interact with the flow? And you'll be like, it does a thing, bro.

Tim Pool (87:57)

I literally went on Grok before the show, and I said, who was the woman who was arrested for leaking? And it said, there is no woman arrested for leaking. You are mistaken. As of now, there are no reports. And I said, you're wrong. Search again. And it goes, ah, yes, you are correct. A person was arrested for leaking information related to a jet rescue operation in Iran. And I said, no, they weren't. Check again.

Phil (88:19)

I mean, that happened with Tank last night. I asked him about. I specifically asked him about Mythos. And he said. He said, oh, I don't know. I was like. I was like, go to X and check, because I've seen things. And he went to X and checked for stuff. He's like, oh, okay, here's the stuff. So I had to actually kind of direct them. And I mean.

Adam Francisco (88:35)

Lazy at first.

Phil (88:36)

Yeah, Well, I mean, kind of. But the thing is with. With AI, a big part of using AI and knowing how to use AI is knowing how to prompt it. Yeah. Knowing what. How to ask.

Carter Banks (88:46)

They only know things up until, like, their most recent update. So anything past that or before after that, they have to wait on or scrape the Internet forward.

Phil (88:54)

Some can't do that. And there are times when they're wrong. And there are times when, like, the. I think I was. There was a question I. I asked. I asked him yesterday, and there was. He answered, and I was like, no, can you check? Oh, it was about the. About strikes in Iran. And he said that these strikes. Because it was about the anthropic and Department of War beef between the two about whether or not anthropic was going to be used by the Department of War. And he said that the. Initially. He said the strikes were last year. And I was like, hey, are you sure that the strikes were last year? Because I don't think this actually happened last year. And he went back and checked, and he was like. Like, no, actually, you're right. The. The. The issue with anthropic was. Was earlier this year. So they're not. They're not perfect, but they get you really close.

Ian Crossland (89:39)

Yeah. You know, we're gonna. It's gonna incite a new form of evolution of the human brain that is less reliant on memorizing information and becomes more about figuring out what questions to ask. To get to the next point because it will all the. You won't need to, you know, it's, it's, it's an off board intelligence. You don't need to memorize stuff. Stuff as much when you just know

Tim Pool (89:59)

what people are gonna get stupid.

Ian Crossland (90:00)

You need to know how to pro. Well, you might develop a hyper ability to ask the right questions.

Phil (90:04)

That's the same argument that people made about calculators.

Adam Francisco (90:07)

I was gonna say. Yeah, it's like the calculator.

Phil (90:08)

Yeah. Like there was, there was like, you know, I remember when I, because I'm an old guy but like when I was growing up, people were, teachers were always, always like, you're not gonna have a calculator all the time. You know, like, I mean, three.

Adam Francisco (90:21)

Is that what it's called? The ti3?

Ian Crossland (90:22)

What was that?

Phil (90:23)

Yeah, the Texas Engine.

Ian Crossland (90:24)

Yeah.

Phil (90:24)

Yeah, but I mean, and I was watching a podcast about a guy that was talking about. I forget what kind of calculator, but it was like a. One of the more advanced calculators that can do advanced calculation and stuff. And he was just like, he was like, look, I can do this stuff in my head, but it's so much easier when I have the calculator. I just do it on the calculator.

Tim Pool (90:46)

We're going to have like Google Glass kind of things like these glasses with bone conduction and you're just going to ask it to solve problems for you. You're not going to need to know anything. You're going to be like, when am I supposed to go to the store? And it's going to go right now, actually in 15 minutes. You should be leaving.

Adam Francisco (90:59)

Oh, okay.

Tim Pool (91:00)

Thank you.

Ian Crossland (91:00)

That's kind of how, from my experience, how God works is you think the question to God and it responds to you before you even finish asking it. I wonder if the neural net will be able to know what you're going to ask.

Tim Pool (91:11)

Those are likely demons.

Ian Crossland (91:12)

It's possible that it is spirits pretending to be spirits.

Tim Pool (91:15)

I said demons.

Ian Crossland (91:15)

Well, those are, are, those are types of spirits from.

Tim Pool (91:18)

And they, they've got silver tongues. They're going, ian, I love you. Is it to me?

Ian Crossland (91:21)

Is it nano silver? Does it shimmer in the darkness and the light? I'm down to play with the demon's tongue. I got to know what's in it, man.

Phil (91:29)

Well, I mean just, you know, you can like Anthropic has classes basically on how to prompt Claude and I mean the prompts are going to work for basically any AI question for you guys.

Ian Crossland (91:41)

When they had the first American industrial revolution in the 1850s was there like a segment of Luddites that violently resisted the steam engine?

Tim Pool (91:48)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were.

Ian Crossland (91:49)

And they were violent and they weren't able to organize with because they didn't have Facebook groups. So it's like any.

Phil (91:55)

Well, look, in the US AI is actually very unpopular. Like it's something like 25 of the country looks at AI as a.

Tim Pool (92:03)

And even when the people say no, they. They do it anyway. The people say no to their government, they make it anyway. They say no boys in the girls bathroom, they do it anyway.

Phil (92:11)

One of the things that, that's worth noting though is when it comes to China, they look at AI, it's something like 70 or 80% of the population thinks AI is good. That's going to give China an incredible edge over the United States. Unless the American people kind of have a. Have a different relationship with AI.

Adam Francisco (92:30)

I think AI is good. I think AI is inevitable.

Phil (92:32)

Clearly I do as well.

Adam Francisco (92:33)

So my view is get on board or get run over. And so I use AI in my life a lot. For example, I do like AI Music and I also do use Grok Imagine a lot to create content for my. My social networks. And 20% of my audience hates when I do it. Like I've lost subscribers because I hate that I use AI sometimes.

Tim Pool (92:53)

We, we use AI for tons of stuff.

Adam Francisco (92:55)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (92:55)

For a lot of the art. We do. We, we. We do try to do as many real photos as possible. But sometimes you want, you know, I'll explain it like this. The era of news is over. Nobody watches news content anymore. It just, just this is a fact. Watching on cable TV like not happening. People are looking for shows. That's it. It is all shows now. Do you like the opinions and the thoughts? Because we already know the news. So what we're doing now largely is just. We're doing a show.

Phil (93:23)

Well, one of the reasons why people watch this, or actually, no, not one. The major reason why people watch this show is Tim and the personalities that are on here, right? They can get news from wherever they want. They could go to an AI or what have you. People watch this show because they're interested in the people that are on the show.

Adam Francisco (93:38)

It's infotainment.

Phil (93:39)

It is. But the, but there's all like, I. As much as there's a value in AI and Tim's take on AI content is largely correct. The idea that people don't want to watch other actual people, I think that that's wrong. Yeah, people like.

Tim Pool (93:57)

But, but People like AI content is going to be. It's, it's. It already about a third of the content on YouTube is reportedly AI that. And it's because people are watching documentaries.

Phil (94:06)

Yeah, those. And those are.

Tim Pool (94:07)

Those are pulling viewership from everyone. Yeah. But everyone is getting hit. And so what's happening is you're getting desperate people who are like, trump's a secret Jew. Because they're doing anything they can to try and keep viewers as people are producing a content.

Phil (94:22)

Yeah. I don't disagree about that. I'm not trying to make the argument that jump, but what I'm saying is that people still like to people, still relate to people, and they like people's personalities. So there's going to be in. There's going to be people that will be looking to, you know, to watch Tim, to watch other creators, because they

Ian Crossland (94:41)

like the people and they want to know what our critique of that AI slop is. I think there's good AI stuff.

Adam Francisco (94:49)

Yeah. There's good and there's bad.

Ian Crossland (94:51)

I love Sunos. What's that?

Adam Francisco (94:52)

It's good and bad AI.

Phil (94:53)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (94:53)

And it's like a neutral tool. You know, it's. It's a mechanical bowl. And so we need to kind of explain that's going to be an interesting probably future show that's pretty popular amongst humans is like talking about the AI like we used to talk about the news or what Josie said to him. Shout out to Josie. Just a random name. I didn't mean Josie, the redheaded libertarian. But what's Josie up to down the street? You know, like now we'll just talk.

Tim Pool (95:19)

Everyone's going to know you're going to be wearing a device that's going to talk to you in real time. Because we already have these glasses. Everyone's already walking around with them. They're becoming ubiquitous. And people have cell phones. And if you don't have an earbud in, you'll pick your phone and go, hey, I'm looking to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then it'll just talk to you and it'll give you answers.

Ian Crossland (95:36)

That's what I wanted yesterday at Harper's Ferry, walking up and down with my. I wanted my earbuds in and my onboard AI so that I could keep learning about plasma physics.

Carter Banks (95:42)

Seen that movie Her?

Adam Francisco (95:44)

No.

Phil (95:44)

Yes. Well, no, I didn't see the movie, but I'm more scarlet, I think so. Hansen. Yeah. She does Joaquin Phoenix.

Carter Banks (95:50)

Yes, yes, that is what.

Ian Crossland (95:52)

And he falls in love with an AI. Is that what it is?

Carter Banks (95:53)

I don't want to give anything away.

Ian Crossland (95:54)

I mean, I think they show that worth watching it, but.

Adam Francisco (95:56)

Oh, yeah, all right.

Ian Crossland (95:58)

Yeah.

Carter Banks (95:58)

But on the radar, I mean, I have that.

Ian Crossland (96:00)

Like, Phil, you were calling Tank he. I was calling the Amazon product she. And then I was like, you know what?

Tim Pool (96:05)

The. Because I talked to AI about the

Ian Crossland (96:07)

ethics of AI and the humanization, and I'm like, I think you're going to be he or she, and you're going to be it. And that's how it's always going to be. It's just like a trans man is a woman and a trans man, a computer can be a he and an it. Welcome to our world.

Tim Pool (96:22)

That's why they're doing the pronoun stuff, because they're getting ready for non. Non human entities.

Phil (96:28)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (96:29)

Personas.

Tim Pool (96:29)

The aliens are like, we don't like gendered pronouns. Well, we don't know how to socially change people to accept that. You have to start now.

Phil (96:35)

Well, that was one of the things that Peter Thiel said. Like when, when they were talking about trans people, like, Peter Thiel was like, you know, they're actually not going far enough because in the future, we're going to have people that are going to be modifying their bodies and, and stuff in ways that we can't imagine right now.

Tim Pool (96:53)

Now, whether or not Ghost in the Shell, when they get prosthetic bodies.

Phil (96:56)

Yeah, there's. There's going to be, there's going to be. Look when, when Optimus comes out, right? You're going to have all these, these, these parts that are better than human arms, better than human legs. If someone has lost an arm or a leg and they put a neuralink in their brain and you can strap a robotic arm on them, you think that people won't do that?

Ian Crossland (97:18)

They absolutely will likely be people that would have a regular arm removed to get the bionicle.

Phil (97:23)

That's probably that. I mean, that makes me think you ever. Did you ever see Elita Battle Angel?

Tim Pool (97:27)

No.

Phil (97:27)

So that. That was a. It's a cartoon, but it's a. It's a movie. And basically that's. That's a lot of what they did in that they had prosthetic arms and legs, and some of. Some of the characters took it to an extreme where they were just ahead on a robot body, but like that. I do think that that's something that's going to RoboCop.

Tim Pool (97:44)

Yeah.

Phil (97:44)

Basically.

Adam Francisco (97:45)

I do want to say this is hitting very close to home, though, because I don't know if you guys know, my kidneys failed four Years ago and I was on dialysis for three and a half years waiting for a kidney transplant. I got one six months ago from one of my YouTube subscribers. He said he was, that's killer. I didn't grow up Christian, but my, my donor said that he was compelled by Jesus Christ to save my life and give me a, give me his kidney. So shout out to my, to my living donor, Charlie. But one of the worst parts about receiving an organ transplant are the anti rejection medicine heads.

Phil (98:12)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (98:12)

So you basically have to take medication to suppress your immune system and with that comes a lot of nasty side effects. So the world that you guys are describing, the future, they're going to be able to build organs out of your own body, probably through stem cells that you won't need any anti rejection medications for. If your lungs are failing, if your liver's failing, if your, you know, kidneys are failing, they'll just build you one, cut you open, take out the damaged one and put in the new one. No anti rejection.

Phil (98:37)

There are a lot of people that should happen.

Tim Pool (98:39)

Organ growing you're talking about.

Phil (98:40)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (98:40)

Organ growing. Yep.

Phil (98:41)

Right now.

Adam Francisco (98:42)

It's not there yet. It's not there yet.

Phil (98:43)

I saw, I saw a story about, I saw a story about a company looking to, to grow human bodies without heads.

Tim Pool (98:50)

Yeah.

Phil (98:51)

Basically a whole body.

Adam Francisco (98:53)

You just touch the head when the,

Tim Pool (98:55)

have you seen the movie the island with Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson? They think they're in a post apocalypse dystopia, but it turns out they're genetically engineered by rich people. Like it's a, it's a factory that makes clones of rich people. So when the rich people need organ transplants, they have clones to take them from, from.

Ian Crossland (99:09)

I'm into the stem cell meat growth because the, the, the factory farming industry is pretty horrific as a, as an animal on animal. Like if we're going to colonize the galaxy and be the predominant force, we really shouldn't be imprisoning and consuming animals. We can help it. I, I, it's pretty nasty way to live.

Adam Francisco (99:26)

Deep down.

Ian Crossland (99:27)

I asked God, will I be judged at the holy gate when I'm dead? Will I be judged? He said, no, you'll be judged for factory farming. You all will.

Adam Francisco (99:34)

That's one of the worst things that we do as humans. There was a video on X that went viral recently about how they slaughter pigs and they basically put them on this kind of like conveyor belt type thing.

Phil (99:43)

I saw that.

Adam Francisco (99:43)

And they have these electric shocks that go right into their temples and just render them unconscious. So instantly. And they say it's humane, but I'm watching that. I'm like, none of this is really humane growing that.

Ian Crossland (99:54)

I'm growing stem cell meat in laboratories. That can be the food that we can use. And then alongside with growing organs, it just is leading me to talking about chimeras, which is a funny word Alex Jones talked about 20 years ago. People made fun of him. It's human animal hybrids, genetically created animals. I wonder if with a lot of people talking about, I've seen aliens, I've seen alien life. That. And it's not a topic tonight. I hope in the next couple days or next week, we can talk a lot about chimeras. It can be more of a real conversation because we're like breeding, I believe, you know, humans with advanced genetics, whatever you want to call it, like, who knows what I mean? They had like spider. Spider silk, like in. In goat milk. They. They blended a goat and a spider and when the goat was milked, it would have spider silk in the milk. Yeah, it's old, dude. That's like 10 years ago or something. They were, they were breeding animals to have different color skin and things.

Tim Pool (100:44)

Glowing. Mice.

Ian Crossland (100:46)

Glowing.

Tim Pool (100:46)

Yeah, bioluminescent.

Ian Crossland (100:48)

Bioluminescent creatures. That's why it'll be like humans that don't need as much oxygen so they'll be able to swim underwater really long, run really far.

Adam Francisco (100:55)

I think this already exists. Exists. I always think that what we see in Hollywood is predictive programming. Right? And so this whole marvel flood of all these movies where they almost look like they could be really happening because this special effects have come so far. My theory, my conspiracy theory is I think they're prepping the population for actual superheroes.

Ian Crossland (101:11)

Yeah, they're going to be called tweakers.

Adam Francisco (101:12)

I think we already have super soldiers.

Tim Pool (101:14)

Slicers.

Ian Crossland (101:14)

No, like, I think they'll call them. They might be splice tweaks or tweakers. Because if someone's a tweak, they're tweaking their genome, maybe they'll split. You call it splice in the genome.

Tim Pool (101:22)

I just bioshock.

Ian Crossland (101:23)

Okay, then we'll have to call something different. All splicers are cool. They are you splicing? Are you tweaking right now? Like I'm a tweak. I don't know about you guys. I'm tweaked up. Like I'm genetically modified. And there's going to be like a thing about, like when one tweak goes crazy. When one splicer goes crazy with his super unintended consequence of having the genetic therapy. Literally Bioshock, what happens is one guy, everyone's doing great, everyone can run really fast. Then one guy, there's an unintended genomic consequence. He goes crazy, hurts a lot of people. And then there'll be people that are like, like, no more tweaking, no more genetic. They are the enemy. And it'll be like mutants. You know, there'll be people that want them.

Tim Pool (101:57)

Ian.

Ian Crossland (101:57)

And then people stand up.

Carter Banks (101:59)

Bioshock.

Tim Pool (102:01)

Like Everybody who's played BioShock is going, Ian, please.

Ian Crossland (102:04)

Yeah, it's. But it's going to be real. It's going to be. And we have to lead the ethical argument about why they're still real people. Like, they're still people, but how dangerous to have a superhuman that could. That could. I mean, who knows how. How fast they could think.

Adam Francisco (102:19)

And I think they already exist. That's my theory. They're probably underground somewhere.

Ian Crossland (102:23)

So do we treat them with equal rights as humans?

Phil (102:26)

Robots should not have equal rights.

Ian Crossland (102:27)

I'm talking about genetically modified humans.

Tim Pool (102:30)

Well, what we should do is we should create like large robots that can police these superpowered individuals and we can give them a cool name. Maybe something based off like ancient Rome or something. You know, like, like a Sentinel.

Adam Francisco (102:41)

Sentinels.

Ian Crossland (102:42)

Yeah, that'd be cool over watching, you know, that's a good term. Would be someone that's like Stan Sentinel to.

Tim Pool (102:49)

Well, it's not also just like we'll make robots that will help us keep control of these superpowered individuals. These. The people with this genetic mutation, these mutants.

Ian Crossland (102:59)

And that's like Magneto went crazy. He's a version.

Tim Pool (103:01)

And so the humans are like. We're literally talking about X Men guys.

Ian Crossland (103:04)

The population is like, all mutants are evil because they saw how horrible the worst of them could be. And then it's up to. Some people are like, actually no, maybe not. Not. Maybe the only way to stop these truly evil cybernets is to craft better ones.

Tim Pool (103:16)

Cyber nids. Yeah.

Ian Crossland (103:18)

So there's gonna be dudes with like cybernetics and then there's gonna be dudes that's pure mutant dude.

Phil (103:23)

There. There's part of me that I like, I have this. This idea of. Of maybe. Maybe it'd be a sci fi story. But in the future, I imagine that there's going to be people that are like, we. We don't want to have any kind of augmentation at all. And they're going to be like the pure people. Like the purists. Yeah. And then. But then there's going to be I imagine like super, you know, super modified people that are like in a cult that are like. Our job is to protect the normal people. Like we're, we're like the, the knights of the old that, that are here

Tim Pool (103:55)

that exist to protect Sentinelese truck. If there are super powered individuals due to like genetic alterations, there will be mechanically enhanced people. So there will be. There will be police that are wearing enhanced suits and you will not be standard issue for civilians. It will be like if you got a problem with the mutants, you join the corps and they'll give you one of these suits and you can use that to police the crazy powered people.

Phil (104:19)

I think that make a cool, cool sci fi story.

Ian Crossland (104:21)

Yeah.

Phil (104:22)

Like the, the normal people that are being protected by the normies super augmented. Because the.

Tim Pool (104:28)

I imagine literally every superhero genre like. No, I mean that's what Justice League is about.

Phil (104:34)

Well, I mean there.

Tim Pool (104:35)

That's.

Phil (104:35)

It's not. I'm more. What I'm thinking is like the like everyone on Earth is like somehow.

Tim Pool (104:40)

Yes. They have the watch in outer space orbiting the Earth and the Justice League which is a massive organization of like 200 superheroes.

Phil (104:49)

Yeah, but that's like. That's like 200. And the, the people, all the people on Earth are normal. When I'm talking about like.

Tim Pool (104:55)

No, no, no, no, no. In Justice League League. The Justice League is not all superpowered people. They're also villains. And then they're varying degrees and especially what they're doing now with the Legion of Doom.

Phil (105:03)

Right? What the Legion of Doom?

Tim Pool (105:06)

Indeed. And Lex Luthor doesn't have superpowers. He's just a CEO, you know?

Ian Crossland (105:10)

Yeah. I think a lot since I've played Star wars, the Old Republic. I think a lot about dudes that are cyber public knights of the Old Republic and the Old Republic online. I played the multiplayer one, the Old Republic epic game. I played with my friends. I played a Jedi Guardian. But I'm born the mutations and using like overriding my genetic code. But you can use cybernetics to do that too. Like my buddy would jack into his brain and like have super targeting and like way. I don't know. Or you could do both I guess. And there are probably mutations that you specifically do to your genome to handle certain cybernetics. And like if you didn't get the mutation, it'll kill you when you try and implant it.

Adam Francisco (105:46)

Yeah. What were you gonna say about mcu?

Tim Pool (105:49)

They have heroes of lesser powers. Oh, Jones and Daredevil.

Adam Francisco (105:52)

Yes. Their daddy was like a Street level character.

Tim Pool (105:55)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (105:55)

And then there's Spider man and then there'll be like, the cosmic levels.

Tim Pool (105:58)

We're gonna go to your Rumble rants and super chats. So smash the like button, share the show and all that good stuff. But before we do, we got a great sponsor for you. It is the Rumble wallet. Go to wallet.rumble.com Guys, censorship is not gone. Something weird is afoot. And Rumble Wallet is non custodial, meaning they can't ban you from it. So if you want to trade Tether Bitcoin or Tether Gold, you can do this. The Rumble Wallet app. And you will never get banned because it's non custodial. So check it out. Wallet.rumble.com. thanks for sponsoring the show, guys, but let's grab your rants and super chats and see what you guys are on about. Today we got Paige. What does it say? I. I can't pronounce your name. Let's say Paige. My son Nolan has been watching Tim cast with me since he was about a. Since he was about a toddler and is turning nine. Could y' all wish him a happy birthday? Fills his fave and talks with him the first Sunday of each month. Happy birthday, Nolan.

Phil (106:51)

Happy birthday, Nolan.

Adam Francisco (106:52)

Birthday.

Ian Crossland (106:53)

Nice job, dude.

Phil (106:54)

Thanks for subscribing to my patron or to my ex account.

Tim Pool (106:58)

Indeed. Joshua says we don't want war. We want to quickly and swiftly annihilate the threat, resume normal life.

Ian Crossland (107:05)

Thank you, sir.

Tim Pool (107:06)

Indeed. Token MAGA says red Animal Farm yesterday. And I've never wanted to eat bacon more in my life. Also very disgusted by that trailer. I recommend the animated Animal Farm film too, where it's just like, merciless. It was like the story was meant to be merciless. Torture and death.

Ian Crossland (107:24)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (107:24)

And the movie is just like, I just wanted to party, man. Why were you mean to me? Because we needed food.

Ian Crossland (107:30)

Yeah, the book was violent with the guise of a cartoony situation because it's cute little animals. But like, the movie seems to be lean, making it actually trying to make it actually cute. Hey, I didn't see the movie yet. Yet.

Tim Pool (107:43)

But I'm about to miss Miha Miahaha. Miaha. Tim, Tim, Tim. There's no toll to either Iran or the US Trump statement. Free and safe. Literally says no toll. Levitt basically called it the fake reporting today. Well, that's interesting. Suppose it was all lies.

Phil (108:00)

Yeah, we'll see how. How things actually get hammered out.

Tim Pool (108:06)

NNY says, Tim, you are incorrect. The correct way to calm a woman down is to say calm Down. You're acting just like your mother. It works every time and I endorse the practice. It also results in a frying pan to the face.

Adam Francisco (108:17)

That's what I'm wondering.

Ian Crossland (108:18)

Was it your lack of consciousness?

Adam Francisco (108:19)

Did you.

Ian Crossland (108:20)

Did you dip out of the conscious realm and that's why you thought everything was fine for a moment? Did she put you to sleep when you said that? Like what. What do you mean? Everything was fine after that. Where you fall? Did she knock you unconscious? That's what the.

Phil (108:31)

Oh, yes.

Ian Crossland (108:31)

Did anyone get that? That was a little too esoteric.

Tim Pool (108:34)

Indeed. All right, let's see. We got going on here. We got bystander syndrome. Says it must be a sad thing for the soul to come on this show day in and day out and lie constantly. Tim is a shell of a man. I feel worse for Ian. It's like he's a hostage or something. And I would just say Israel's not coming to get you, friend. Israel isn't real. It was just made up by parents to scare children like Michael Jackson or the Boogeyman.

Ian Crossland (108:58)

Just because they call it is real doesn't mean that it's real.

Tim Pool (109:03)

Let's see. Optimus prime says, you asked on X if we've seen Law Abiding Citizen. But have you seen Samuel? Samuel L. Jackson's movie Unthinkable. I haven't. What's that one about?

Ian Crossland (109:12)

I don't know.

Adam Francisco (109:12)

I haven't heard of it either.

Ian Crossland (109:14)

Jackson's the man.

Tim Pool (109:16)

He's in everything.

Ian Crossland (109:17)

I love his work.

Carter Banks (109:18)

Snakes on a Plane.

Ian Crossland (109:19)

Let's go.

Tim Pool (109:20)

Dreki Brinny says, Tim, my wife and I love listening to irl. We recently had our first baby. He spent four days in the nicu. Would you mention our Give Send Go Vincent dash Cox-NICU. Best of luck. Hopefully that everything is okay. Baby is healthy.

Phil (109:37)

Right?

Tim Pool (109:38)

John Rambo says make insane asylums full again. Seconded. I agree. All right. Turbo Active says Re Arena's murderer found incompetent laws hit the books in many states since COVID My assaulter is free. It's been three years. Doesn't go to court ordered restoration class. Picked up DV and is out again. You know. Yep. Proto prime says. Hey Phil, Mia Jovovich has the solution to open clause memory shortcomings. Check out her GitHub.

Phil (110:10)

I saw that. But if I understand correctly, she was actually paid. She's not actually doing voting.

Tim Pool (110:16)

I was gonna say.

Phil (110:17)

Yeah, yeah.

Tim Pool (110:18)

It's like when. When Kylie Jenner made that how to play poker video and everybody just side eyed you know.

Ian Crossland (110:24)

You know, I was pumped that Mila Jovovich was an AI developer.

Phil (110:28)

Yeah. That. That's what's alleged. But there's also people that are saying that she actually doesn't do any coding or anything like that.

Carter Banks (110:36)

She.

Phil (110:37)

No, no, that she's actually.

Ian Crossland (110:39)

Yeah, yeah, from the Fifth Element. She did a X video. You can find it on X a couple days ago, I think.

Phil (110:46)

I mean, that's. That's. That's just what people are saying. I don't have any kind of information whether she actually does or not. But. But I do. I did see the. The. The talent or whatever that she's talking about. And so, you know, it looks interesting.

Tim Pool (111:00)

All right, we got Herman, who says, tim and Ian, please play Kerbal Space Program so you can better understand orbital mechanics. I have played it.

Ian Crossland (111:07)

I have it.

Tim Pool (111:07)

Yeah. It's been years, though.

Ian Crossland (111:09)

Like, I've thought that same thing three times in my life.

Tim Pool (111:12)

What I should play Kerbal Space program. It's training Civ 4, man. One of the. One of the classics.

Ian Crossland (111:18)

I know Kerbal will be, like, work, like. But I think it'll be fun. I hear it's fun.

Tim Pool (111:22)

What's the. What's the game where you build machines? Oh, I have this game you, like. You can build wooden machines, and then little guys will, like, attack your castle. You know, I'm talking about, oh, games like Siege Siege or something.

Ian Crossland (111:33)

I don't have that. Like, real physics games where you.

Phil (111:35)

You build, like, phone game or is it a physics.

Tim Pool (111:38)

No, it's a game called. That's like Besieged, I think it's called.

Ian Crossland (111:40)

Look it up if it's a. I have a lot of tower defense, is

Adam Francisco (111:43)

what I was thinking.

Ian Crossland (111:44)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (111:44)

No, it's so, like, there's various scenarios, and you have to build from scratch, like, machines. I think it's called Besieged.

Ian Crossland (111:49)

And then you constantly get waves of attackers and stuff.

Tim Pool (111:51)

Different levels.

Phil (111:52)

Yeah, it's Besieged. It's on. It's on Steam. I'm looking at it on Steam.

Tim Pool (111:55)

And there's, like, little. Little, like, knights will run at you, and then you build, like, flamethrowers and just ignite all of them.

Ian Crossland (112:01)

I love games like that, man.

Tim Pool (112:04)

All right. Danger. Rust Day says Tim Follett was right. Caesar in classical Latin was pronounced with a K. Kar. V's are W's, so it's veni, vidi, vici in is when he. Weedy Wiki. Ave Maria is away. About that. That's true, because I always explain to people it's Davis, Walt, not Dave's Volt. And they're like, davis Vault. I'm like, no, it's Walt. It's the other way around.

Ian Crossland (112:32)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (112:32)

Double V. You know, I love those Romans.

Ian Crossland (112:36)

I think about them a lot.

Tim Pool (112:38)

We do. Brian. Pete Compti. Brian la Compti says, I adopted two of Adam's dogs. I grew up on the opposite side of Midway from Tim and Seamus's family. Grew up with mine. My worlds are colliding. He adopted your dogs?

Adam Francisco (112:53)

He has. Well, my two dogs, Cloud and Sunlight, had four babies. I kept two of them named Moon and Sky. And he has the other two named Lily and aj. So, yes. Shout out to Brian.

Tim Pool (113:06)

Peter Goalk says, time to part ways with Israel. This is ridiculous. Yeah. You know, if. If Israel is compromising Trump's peace plan, this is disastrous.

Adam Francisco (113:16)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (113:17)

And that's. That's just regular old criticism of a country. Double says, I am a fan of a shared poll with Iran. Make your friends rich and make your enemies rich. Then wait to see which is which. That's from the mcu. What is it? Yeah. Make your friends Mitch rich and make your enemies rich. Then wait to find out which one is which.

Adam Francisco (113:36)

That's Ultron.

Phil (113:37)

That was the.

Tim Pool (113:38)

Yeah, well, it was Tony Stark and Ultron said it. And actually, what does it even mean?

Ian Crossland (113:41)

Fund both sides of the war and then partner with whoever wins.

Tim Pool (113:44)

Yeah, right. That's a good one. Yeah, I like that.

Ian Crossland (113:49)

And bankers know what they're doing.

Phil (113:51)

Weapons manufacturers.

Ian Crossland (113:53)

Yep.

Tim Pool (113:55)

Milul says they got the deserving from female logic. It's the feminization of the world. This is a reference to the leaker.

Adam Francisco (114:04)

It must be that maybe good term, the deserving.

Tim Pool (114:09)

Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Says, I've got 10 plus years in the industrial warehouse world. If dude burned down our workplace, all 200 employees would be effed. Very selfish of himself. Like communists. Why don't I get more stuff from other people? Why don't they give me things for no reason? I'm going to burn everything down. That's literally the mentality of every single communist. This guy was enacting literal communism to the team is the perfect example of it. You know, we could say antifa's burning stuff down, but this guy's literally in the factory being like, I deserve more money. Light stuff on fire, bro. Seriously, I'm not advocating for this, but couldn't he have just stolen stuff before destroying everything? Literally just grab a box of toilet paper and then sell them the black market for like a hundred dollars. Because, you know, Covid, he's so Stupid. But that would have been illegal.

Ian Crossland (114:53)

He was just exercising his.

Phil (114:55)

But that would have been illegal. That's right.

Tim Pool (114:57)

Yeah. You can't do that.

Phil (114:58)

Better to burn the building down. That's totally legal.

Tim Pool (115:01)

All right. Kendall says send Ian to the actual negotiations to televise the Angel Studios negotiations to the end of the Iran war. Because it's not a war at this point. Could be if it goes on until 2026. Not sure I follow.

Ian Crossland (115:15)

I'll be there.

Adam Francisco (115:16)

A conflict. Congress has to.

Ian Crossland (115:17)

Right.

Adam Francisco (115:17)

Announce that it's a war for it to technically be a war.

Ian Crossland (115:19)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (115:19)

I mean, in a strict legal sense. Yeah, we know it's a war. All right. Zuru says. Hey, Tim, can you connect me to Ian? I've been trying to talk to him for a minute. Semi related. Hi to the crew. It's been a hot minute. But years ago I saw Phil in person. So shout out for the amazing show I mashed out of with Ian. What's your ex?

Ian Crossland (115:43)

Ian Crossland. My full name. You can message me there. I think you can message me or you can like leave a comment on my most recent post, which is. Is a retweet of Carter's post of this show.

Carter Banks (115:54)

Oh, yes.

Tim Pool (115:56)

Federali says, my first platoon sergeant got Siri new and wanted to show us that. It literally showed you the best place to hide a body based on location. Two days later, that trick wasn't allowed. I think a lot of this, A lot of this weight is QoS nerfing. What does that mean?

Phil (116:13)

I have no idea what any of that means.

Tim Pool (116:15)

Not sure if I'm know. Chris Lancaster says, when it comes to others and AI, I say those who cannot adapt are quickly swept away on the tide of their own obsolescence, they'll be left behind. Indeed. And when large groups of people, through no fault of their own, are excised from the economy and can't get food or feed their kids, they burn things down and kill people. I'm not saying they're right to do so. It's just a consequence of what happens. So. You know, Cody Johnson says ghost in the Shell is why I'm in college to be a biomedical, like biomedical scientist. I will be helping to make cyborgs a reality. Yes. Yeah. The big problem is rejection and bonding. How do you get the organic material to bond with inorganic materials is very. It's. It just doesn't like a carbon.

Ian Crossland (116:59)

Metal bond would be probably the starting point, maybe carbon, titanium, nan.

Tim Pool (117:05)

Because the body rejects it all.

Ian Crossland (117:07)

Yeah, the carbon. I know the body will hold graphene because it's inert, inert carbon in the system. Like they. When they. They broke a mouse's spine and then they threaded graphene tethers from both directions to touch, and then the spine regrew around the graphene tethers. In 18 days, the mouse, who is completely paralyzed, had 88% motility again. So I think the bodies can handle graphene. We'll find out.

Phil (117:31)

Sure.

Tim Pool (117:31)

Graphene. What do we got here? Honky Kong says the island is actually the truth of what happened on Epstein's Island. People are being cloned and harvested in underground bunkers on Epstein Island Island. I mean, I don't know about that in Epstein island, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that wealthy people are cloning people and doing weird stuff. You know what I mean?

Phil (117:49)

That's going to be that. I mean, that's going to happen in the future.

Adam Francisco (117:52)

Well, I'll tell you guys this. I lost my first two dogs, Raindrop and Flex, and I actually sent their tissue sample to a cloning facility in Texas. So my first two dogs have been genetically reduplicated and they're waiting for me to pull the trigger to clone them, which. Which I have not thought of doing. I just have their DNA stored safely. Pretty crazy. You could do that.

Ian Crossland (118:13)

You have it stored on their. In their property.

Adam Francisco (118:16)

Yes. It's cryogenically frozen. I have to pay an annual storage fee of 150.

Ian Crossland (118:19)

By the way, cryogenic temperatures is Kelvin of 0 to Kelvin of 4. Above 4 Kelvin. It's no longer cryogenic. I just learned that from also the AI yesterday when I was going down there.

Adam Francisco (118:28)

So, yeah, it's in that range.

Ian Crossland (118:29)

It slows down so much.

Adam Francisco (118:32)

It's expensive, though, to actually get the surrogate to do the pregnancy, which is why I haven't done it.

Phil (118:36)

Oh, really?

Adam Francisco (118:37)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (118:37)

How much?

Adam Francisco (118:38)

So to get the tissue to the laboratory and get them to sample and get the DNA is 1600 and then 150 a year for the storage.

Phil (118:46)

Yeah.

Adam Francisco (118:46)

The cost of actually cloning is 50 grand. Oh, you get the whole litter. So they implant six or seven clones and you get all of them.

Carter Banks (118:56)

What if you don't want all of them, though?

Adam Francisco (118:58)

You'd have to sell them and. Or give them to your, you know, friends and family. Clones of your dog that you lost

Ian Crossland (119:02)

maybe to a farm.

Tim Pool (119:03)

Wow.

Ian Crossland (119:03)

Wow.

Adam Francisco (119:03)

Isn't that crazy?

Tim Pool (119:04)

They create a bunch of clones of

Adam Francisco (119:05)

your dog because if they do one or two, the female dog will reject the pregnancy. Because dogs are litter, right? They're used to having big litters. So they have to give them a big litter of cloned embryos.

Tim Pool (119:16)

Can't they just clone a bunch of different ones?

Adam Francisco (119:18)

That's the way they do it. And they could do cats and horses as well. Horses are 25 grand and cats are 25 grand. But dogs are 50.

Tim Pool (119:26)

What would happen if they put like a big dog embryo into a little dog dog wake?

Adam Francisco (119:32)

They won't do that.

Tim Pool (119:32)

I'm like, would it die?

Adam Francisco (119:34)

It could kill the. The mother. Yeah.

Tim Pool (119:36)

That's crazy.

Phil (119:36)

That can happen in real life too. Like.

Tim Pool (119:38)

Yeah, Well, I mean, if you got like a dachshund and like an Irish wolfhound, they're not. It's not happening.

Adam Francisco (119:43)

Well, you need the male to be the small one and the female.

Tim Pool (119:46)

Yeah, I'm talking about the other way around.

Adam Francisco (119:48)

Oh, yeah.

Tim Pool (119:48)

No, because if you give you. If you get a male dachshund on a female Irish grand, like, no problem.

Ian Crossland (119:53)

Right?

Tim Pool (119:53)

That thing's gonna pop. They're gonna, you know, it's gonna, that dog's gonna be like, I was spring pregnant.

Adam Francisco (119:57)

Exactly.

Tim Pool (119:58)

Things are tiny. It's pretty wild that, that we can do that.

Adam Francisco (120:01)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (120:02)

Anyway, Ramo to you says assault rifle. Made up term that has no meaning technically. It was coined by Ze Gemins and it means fire rifle. Zejemuns.

Adam Francisco (120:14)

I mean, anything could be an assault weapon. This could be an assault.

Tim Pool (120:18)

Well, assault weapon is a meaningless term. It's not defined in law.

Adam Francisco (120:21)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (120:21)

And assault rifle is a reference to select fire rifle post World War II, which have not been made for civilian use since I think, what, 1985.

Ian Crossland (120:28)

Likely because you would use them as single fire from far away. And then when you got close to the target in the trench or wherever you are, assaulting a target, you would go to auto. And just like.

Tim Pool (120:36)

That's not correct.

Ian Crossland (120:38)

Well, what do you mean?

Tim Pool (120:39)

That's not what, how they do it.

Phil (120:41)

What?

Tim Pool (120:42)

That's not how it's. No.

Ian Crossland (120:44)

When you go into, when you get

Tim Pool (120:45)

up close, you try to full auto.

Ian Crossland (120:48)

Well, no semi. I mean, you go. You can speed up the rate of fire when the targets are closer, but

Tim Pool (120:52)

you wouldn't need to. They're close them up. You know, probably use your sidearm in

Phil (120:57)

close quarters, you use full auto. Yeah. I mean, you use full auto suppress. Right. So if you and your buddies are here and you, you get, you want to your friends to go over here, but there's guys shooting over here. The guys with the machine guns shoot at those guys while these guys move. Right. So the, the point isn't like, oh, I want to use the. The machine gun up close, it's to make the people that are shooting at you get their heads down. So you put a bunch of bullets going at them so they get their heads down. So you're. Your friends can move and close quarters.

Tim Pool (121:25)

You don't want to use a long gun.

Ian Crossland (121:27)

Yeah, not at all. Yeah, I was talking like some idiot just then. You're no Phil. You make a lot of sense.

Tim Pool (121:33)

You become self aware.

Ian Crossland (121:35)

You enable your. Your compatriots to do the assault.

Phil (121:37)

Think of it like you suppressed the. Think of it like football, right? Think of it like football. You're. You're looking to move the ball down the. The field. And so you've got guys blocking, but they're blocking by shooting so many bullets at the bag the other guys that they want to get their heads down because there's so many bullets, they don't want to get hit. So. So you shoot at those guys a lot. That's what you use the full auto for. And these guys move.

Tim Pool (121:57)

What if Wonder Woman is there and she's just got the shield and the.50 BMG is bouncing off of it?

Phil (122:01)

Yeah, I mean, then Wonder Woman just, you know.

Tim Pool (122:03)

All right, guys, guys, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. We got a video to play for you that's not family friendly at all. It's brutal. You've been warned. We're gonna play that@rumble.com Timcast IRL. Don't miss it. You can follow me on X and Instagram at. Tim Cast. Adam, do you want to shout anything out?

Adam Francisco (122:16)

Yeah. Adam Francisco on all platforms. I had a lot of fun and of course, meeting Tim, he's one of my biggest influences in the political world, man. So really good to be here. Yeah.

Ian Crossland (122:25)

It was great to see you, man.

Tim Pool (122:26)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (122:27)

I'm at Ian Crossland. Find me at Ian Crossland. And that's all over the Internet, pretty much. Go to Graphine Movie. Check out this new. There have been a bunch of edits. Carter, you're actually helping work on some of the music I hear.

Carter Banks (122:36)

Yeah, no, I. I'm taking a look at what y' all have so far, and I'm excited to pump some stuff out. A little 80s vibe and whatnot.

Ian Crossland (122:44)

I'm amped. And then go. I did a show with Roseanne. I mentioned before. I won't keep mentioning it, but it was the last one. We did go to her YouTube channel. It's there. Roseanne Barr and I. Ian Cross one. See you later.

Tim Pool (122:53)

Oh, Carter.

Carter Banks (122:53)

Oh, yeah. You can Follow me on Carter Banks everywhere and Carter Banks official everywhere else and follow our label at Trash house Records on YouTube.

Phil (123:00)

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Tim Pool (123:31)

We will see you all at rumble. Com Timcast IRL right now. Thanks for hanging out.