Amy Dangerfield (6:02)

Hi, thank you so much for having me.

Tim Pool (6:04)

Who are you? What do you do?

Amy Dangerfield (6:05)

Oh, I am Amy. I'm a. I guess you would call it a cultural commentator. Um, I commentate on everything from. Well, they say, you know, politics is downstream of culture, so I don't really get too much into the political side of things, but more so how it affects, you know, everybody in their day to day life, including me.

Tim Pool (6:23)

Right on. Mm.

Ian Crossland (6:24)

How it affects me. That's what we're gonna talk about tonight. I'm at iancrosslin. You can find me at Ian Crossland.

Tim Pool (6:28)

All across the Internet.

Ian Crossland (6:29)

Been doing this for about 20 years. Internet video. Got into YouTube in 2006. Pioneered Maker Studios. Minds.com Social media designer, actor, musician. Check out graphene movie. If you want to see the most recent movie I'm producing, check out graphene movies. Sign up for the mailing list. Tate Brown.

Tate Brown (6:44)

What is going on, patriots? Tate Brown. You're holding it down. I'm also here to discuss how these stories directly impact Ian as well. I think that should be the primary focus today, in my opinion. So.

Phil Avanti (6:55)

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Avanti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'M an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's get into it real quick.

Tim Pool (7:01)

I want to give a shout out to Rachel and Darren. It was great meeting you guys today and to Doris and Clinton. Really do appreciate that you are loyal viewers and you watch all the time. It, it means a lot from to me to hear that. And we got to meet Rachel and Darren. They, they talked about how they watched every episode and it was a, it was awesome. So nice meeting you guys. Shout out. Thank you so much. And for everybody else, same to all of you for watching. You can join us@timcast.com be members and I really do appreciate it. Let's jump into the news we got from the doj. CBS News reporting subpoenas issued to Waltz, Ellison and Frey in probe alleging immigration obstruction the DOJ on Tuesday served subpoenas to the offices of multiple Democratic officials in Minnesota, including Governor Tim Waltz, Attorney General Keith Ellison, and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, in connection with a probe into an alleged conspiracy to impede federal immigration officers, three sources familiar with the matter told CBS News. The subpoenas represent a significant escalation between the DOJ and Minnesota officials who have clashed over the Trump administration's intense crackdown against immigrants living in the state illegally. They were served on the same day that Attorney General Pam Bondi arrived for a visit in Minnesota, multiple sources told cbs. Now, I just want to say one thing really quick because you guys know that I've been glazing CBS News since Barry Weiss took over. I just want to make sure I point out they literally said immigrants living in the States illegally. That's the they didn't put migrants. They didn't put innocent children. They literally told the truth. I respect that because no one else in the corporate press has been doing that. And so good. I say. Subpoenas were sent in connection with a DOJ investigation into state and local officials to see if they may have conspired to impede federal officers from discharging their duties. The Justice Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A copy of a subpoena seen by CBS does not specify which Criminal Violations Department is probing. However, multiple sources previously told CBS the primary statute being used as the basis for the probe is 18 USC 372, the same one that was used against some of the riders who stormed the capital on January 6. Is that poetic justice? We shall see if anyone actually gets arrested.

Phil Avanti (9:09)

Does this count as something happening? Nothing ever happens.

Tim Pool (9:11)

Guy, you. Me?

Phil Avanti (9:13)

No, no. I'm saying for the nothing.

Tim Pool (9:14)

Oh, I'm, I'm not. Things won't stop happening. See, the issue is nothing is ever enough for the nothing ever happens people. So they say, oh, so what? It's a subpoena. Tell me when they get arrested. It's like, well, Trump got arrested to a year and a half ago. That was a thing that was happening. This is the first process, I think, for most people because they watch movies and they read history books. If you're, if you're reading like, if you read an encyclopedia entry on the American Revolution, it'll say like a quick paragraph, like, due to an increase in taxes and violation of rights by the government, meetings were held by the Founding Fathers, which ultimately culminated. And then a year later they're like, we're signing a Declaration of independence. And you go, yeah, you said the letter, big deal. And then three months later, you get a response from the Crown. Regulars are showing up and they're like, they come all the time. They, they regularly send regulars. At a certain point, someone's gonna be like, the regulars are coming as they run through the night to warn everybody.

Phil Avanti (10:09)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (10:10)

And that's when everyone kind of wakes up to it. So in the case of the Civil War, it didn't happen for like a year and a half or two years. People don't, people don't know this. They think the Civil War was like, the south and the north met at Fort Sumter. And then the south was like, I hereby declare civil war. And then the north was like, how dare you? When actually after the fight, there was still no civil war. Actually after the first battle of Bull Run, there was still no civil war, even though people were dead. It wasn't until, I think it was a year and a half to two years later, they were like, hey guys, this is a civil war. And then two years later it was over.

Phil Avanti (10:42)

Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not particularly black pilled on all this stuff. I think that the government is going to go through the, you know, standard motions to do an investigation and stuff. Obviously, I do want to see. I would love to see all three of these guys, you know, in jail for what they've done. I think they've impeded the operations of ice, they've encouraged people to commit acts of terrorism. So for me it's like, all right, the ball's rolling, you know.

Tim Pool (11:09)

Yeah, yeah.

Tate Brown (11:10)

I mean, the DOJ has got to get this right. Obviously when you're issuing this, this many subpoenas, a lot of charges to go around, but a lot of people, again on Twitter, but a lot of people that are legal experts have outlined the variety. I mean, they, they had their pick of statutes that could like bring charges forth under. So it's again, it's interesting that they've gone with 372, seeing as it was used in J6. Again, people are pretty sour. Even within MAGA, even the most loyal Trump supporters have soured on the DOJ. The DOJ's performance. This could be the instance where they potentially win back. I think a lot of people, including me, who have really felt like they've dropped the ball on them.

Tim Pool (11:47)

Anyways, it's372 is conspiracy to impede or injure an officer.

Phil Avanti (11:52)

I mean, if you on its face, it seems pretty obvious that they did, you know. Yeah, conspiracy to impede. Like the fact that they're obviously talking to each other, they're talking to the, the, the police officers, they're talking to the, the department and they're like, look, this is the stuff that you want to do. We want to pull these guys back, blah, blah. Anytime that they're not actually directing law enforcement to help ICE do its job, they're actually impeding.

Tim Pool (12:20)

I just want to give a quick shout out if you go to this Cornell Law School to AJ Palagar, because I guess these are advertisements for lawyers in, in Florida. You can pull it back up. If you pull it back up. I thought it was funny that we're pulling up the law to talk about news and these guys have their ads running on it. There's lawyers. So free promo, guys.

Tate Brown (12:41)

Great work.

Tim Pool (12:41)

Anyway, the world's ending and people need a lot of lawyers, at least for the next several years. So what say you, Amy?

Amy Dangerfield (12:46)

I mean, it's. This is something that, I mean, you've kind of been saying for a long time, civil war is coming. And like you mentioned, the nothing ever happens. People always kind of scoff at that. But I think we're definitely seeing a culmination of man. I mean, even before all of this really kind of stepped up a notch when it came to directly impeding these officers. You want to talk about these judges kind of letting immigrants like slip in through the back door of the courthouse so they don't, you know, get arrested by ice. I mean, this was already happening. We're just seeing it at a scale that is really scary. And now we're talking about, you know, judges getting assassination attempts put on them. They're talking about we need to instigate laws to ensure that judges addresses are removed. You know, why wasn't this already a thing? That's my question, like, after the Kavanaugh assassination attempt, why wasn't this already a thing to remove the judges?

Tim Pool (13:42)

I don't. When I see the statements from, like, Mayor Frey and Tim Waltz, I don't believe these people are stupid. They may be, but for different reasons. But I think they're fully cognizant of the truth. They know what ICE is doing. They know why ICE is doing it, but they get their power, their luxury, their access from the left. And so they're not going to give that up. If they were to come out and say, I'm gonna be honest with you guys, the American people voted for these actions, and that means the people who live in Minnesota who are here illegally are going to have to go home. And that's what democracy is. If they said that, they'd be out of office and they'd be in the poorhouse in two seconds. These are people who would rather, say, burn the country down before taking me out of power. And we all know what happens to people like that. We've seen it in the Arab Spring. These guys in these countries could have walked away, but they didn't want to. Now, by all means, you can argue that, you know, the ousting or killing of a lot of these politicians was wrong, whatever your opinion is. My point is, at a certain point when. When there are people who are like, I should be in charge and I refuse to give up, they get. They get removed, they get punished in some way. I think. Well, I think it's fair to say there is a conflict happening in this country, and whoever loses is going to face the consequences. Democrats are calling for putting Republicans in prison. Republicans at the ground level are. Republican politicians are just shoving their thumbs up their butt and doing nothing.

Amy Dangerfield (15:11)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like if Trump's gonna do something, then he should fully do it. Do you know what I mean? Because otherwise, he's just instigating and pissing them off to the point where when they do come back in power, it's going to be with an absolute vengeance. And especially with the gerrymandering that we were kind of talking about before the show, you know, setting up, like, permanent electoral majority in these different states. It's like, if. If we're going to do something, we need to actually, fully do it.

Phil Avanti (15:37)

You know, what would that look like?

Amy Dangerfield (15:39)

I mean, actually making sure that these. These indictments go through. When it comes to. I'm surprised that it didn't even happen. Subpoenas. Sorry. I'm surprised that it didn't even Happen though, when it came, came to the health care conspiracy out of Minnesota, like, why, how come there weren't any subpoenas issued over that when it came to walls, you know?

Tate Brown (15:58)

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is like, I, I think there's a lot of people within the Trump administration that are aware of this. I think Trump is aware of this. But a lot of people within the DOJ especially, it doesn't seem that they understand that at this rate, with this level of escalation, with this level of radicalism that is like persistent on the left. This is the off ramp. Like we are heading down the path of civil war. This is the off ramp, is decisive, strong executive power. There's no ands, if or buts because the entire left wing media and political activist soy waffen apparatus has been built on. Trump is an evil, fascist ISIS gestapo. There's no common ground with these people. There's no, like wrestling them back. There's no, you know, debate to be had. There's no market, there's no idea to sell in the marketplace of ideas. Like, when these people back over, it's like, no, the only thing they're going to respond to at this point is force. And so again, like you said to your point, I mean, the spinas are great, but we need to nip this in the bud. Right.

Tim Pool (16:52)

A message needs to be sent to these politicians. Yep. If you break the law, you will have your power taken from you.

Amy Dangerfield (16:59)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (17:00)

If you uphold the law, we will help you maintain order and status. That is, if you're a governor and the people of this country vote for a federal law to be enforced and you decide you're going to go to war with the federal government. Jail. If you decide, well, there may be a lot of angry people in my state, but this is how the system is supposed to work and you work with the federal government, then I believe the federal government should come to your assistance and do what they can to help maintain order and help you. You're going to get voted out. That's going to happen because your state's nuts. But the federal government needs to go in and help manage this. Because the point I'm making. Let me clarify. You can't side with the lunatics running around smashing windows and beating people in the streets. You want to side with the people, you go to jail. If you say, I'm going to, I'm not going to let these people do it. The feds should come in and help you maintain order. Arrest the rioters, you get them locked up. I then think if you clean the streets up, you might actually win reelection. You might actually. Because what I see from the streets, you see that video where someone did a drive by with a squirt gun in Minnesota, drove by and sprayed the activists with water. It's like nine degrees outside. The locals are not happy that a bunch of whackaloons are going nuts. Majority of people probably don't know or care about what's going on. It's always the extremists. Now what I hear from a lot of people in politics is, well, there will never be a civil war because regular people don't care and not paying attention. So who's going to fight? And I'm like, I don't know, the 200,000 extremists on either side, as it always is, or Democrats seize power in the federal government and then levy war. Yeah, like this issue that we're seeing in Minneapolis is more like bleeding Kansas. Street level. Merciless beatings, violence, law enforcement against extremists and protesters. That's like bleeding Kansas. People don't think it goes anywhere. They think it's localized violence. You know what really would kick things off if, first of all, looking at what's going on in Virginia, which we'll get into in a second with them changing the laws 48 hours and they've basically just wiped out the state. This is insane. And everyone, I think, could have seen this coming. Republicans are probably gonna start fleeing. Wealthy and business owners are probably gonna start fleeing. We're looking at something not too dissimilar from the Civil War. That is you've got this localized violence over an ideological issue related to immigration. And we predicted this a year and a half, two years ago. You're going to get a midterm, which will probably be contentious, and then you're going to get a presidential election. And should it be J.D. vance or any other Republican who vows with a strong fist we are going to continue and maintain our operations. Democrats fought very hard in 1860 in the election to make sure they could keep their free labor people who had no choice. We've heard Democrats say time and time again, these people will do the jobs that no one wants to do. We get it. Okay. You like your slaves. Well, if Vance comes in and says, we are ending your second class citizenry operations, this is where it goes national. It's localized now in Minnesota and in other parts of the country too. California, Washington. What happens if 2028 comes around and the Democrats realize you've lost and this is done. Will we actually then see a stronger resistance based on the level of escalation? I would say I think there's a possibility we get somewhere like that. I don't know what it looks like and I don't know what happens in between. But considering, considering we're at the point where the DOJ is issued subpoenas against the governor, the mayor and the aggressive people are beating random people in the streets. You had a woman shot and killed. Again, I'm not talking about morality. I'm just saying it did happen. The escalation is there.

Mark, Brooklyn Park Police Chief (20:43)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (20:44)

Maybe this is the one time where people go, guys, whoa, holy crap, we can't do this. We can't have states fighting the Fed.

Ian Crossland (20:50)

Yeah.

Amy Dangerfield (20:51)

I hope that kind of shifts people's perspective. I know that a lot of Republicans are kind of flirting with this idea. Let's withhold our votes from Republicans for failing to come through on a lot of the promises that they made when they were campaigning for election. Withhold your votes. Teach them a lesson that, you know, if you don't follow through with the promises that you make to the people, you're not going to get reelected. But what does the other side of that look like? It's scary if the Democrats come into power. So it kind of feels like a little bit of a lose, lose situation.

Tate Brown (21:21)

Yeah.

Amy Dangerfield (21:22)

On both sides.

Tate Brown (21:23)

It's a tough calculation because, I mean, you can ask libertarians how that's worked for them where they again, withhold their votes. Expecting like a different. I understand that I guess to a degree, extensive executive power. Again, these politicians really more about holding them accountable to the promises. So it's not a one to one, but generally like it's more about who's staffing these campaigns, who's sort of in charge of implementing policy more so than like reactiveness to the base. It's just, it sucks. That's just like the way that liberal democracy functions. And until we escape that, I don't think you're going to see like decisive power wielded by maybe by the executive to a certain degree, but certainly not by Congress.

Tim Pool (21:57)

Let's, let's jump to this next story. We have this from Vote Hub, ladies and gentlemen, let's talk about real civil war, because you're probably saying, Tim, people fighting in the street does not a civil war make. Tim, politicians bicker all the time. The, the Trump people have been fighting with the Democrats the whole time, going back 10 years. What's new? What's new is that we are facing an unprecedented redistricting effort across the country. Typically redistricting is done on the 10. So 2010, 2020, 2030. It's now 2026. And in the past year Democrats and Republicans have decided to eliminate political opposition in their states. Now I believe it was Republicans who kicked this off, I'm not entirely sure. And it is a bold and unprecedented move. Now conservatives have said Republicans full steam ahead. Democrats responded with let's play too. So what happens when you have every state deciding to eliminate the rival political party from their state? We went from geographic polarization. This is people in California moving to Texas and Washington to Utah. People in New York to Florida. You're getting hyper concentrations of single political ideologies in certain areas. That's the geographic hyperpolarization. And now with a weakened political base, Republicans in blue states and Democrats in red states are getting removed from the political equation as predicted, with the latest being in Maryland. Maryland's Redistricting Advisory Commission has recommended a new 8o congressional map and sent it to Westmore Christian Hines with the viral tweet saying between this and Virginia, Democrats will have actually won the 25:26 phase of the redistricting wars. Unless Indiana has a change of heart, Florida gets involved or the VRA is struck down the Voting Rights Act. And if both of these states redraw Dem favoring lines without any further action from red states, Democrats will probably have a 95 plus percent chance of flipping the House in November. They wouldn't even need to flip any of the remaining toss up seats around the country, including several districts they've all they're already favored to win. That is based on this map from 2:70 to win based on redistricting. If Republicans do not play the game as well, Democrats don't even need to win an election. They don't need to campaign, they don't need to spend money. They will have just owned it based on demographics. It's done. And the New York Times actually published a story on this saying who will win the house. Three maps tell a tale. Take a look at this. 36 seats are most competitive. 18 are toss ups. 26 redistricted or under discussion. 11 or so are in discussion. Effectively Democrats are going to win the House which is extremely tight as it is, not by convincing the American people but by in their states utilizing their majority powers to eliminate Republicans from the equation. That means for the 40 plus percent of Republicans who may live in these states, you will no longer have a say and the Democrats are not going to let you ever have power again.

Phil Avanti (25:05)

This is what the goal is, I mean this is what they've done in California. This is, I believe they've done this in New York. It's essentially going to be Democrat, you know, for eternity. Washington is like that now. And if they are, if they manage to do this in the United, in nationally, they're going to pack the court, they're going to add states, they're going to do everything they can to make sure that Democrats don't ever lose again. We were talking about this last night. The Democrats thought that they had a, a permanent control of power when Barack Obama won. They figured the Republicans were going to be relegated to a regional party and it would be the real con competition was going to be who the Democrat nominee was and they would have, you know, they would have whoever their guy was go against the Republican and of course they would win. If this happens, you can forget about ever having a Republican again like you. It will be one party control and then the rest of the whole United States will turn into California. California's terrible budget situation, California, California's terrible immigration situation. California's inability to retain people like all the people that, and in the, you in the globally, the United States is the last place to go. So this is, it doesn't get more important than voting in this next coming election and in 2028. And this is something that I was saying in the pre show, people like to say, oh, this is not the most important election. Everyone always says this is the most important election because we are human beings that exist in linear time. Every election is the most important election ever because that's the only one you can vote in at that time. The elections that happened in the past, you can't change them. The elections that are coming in the future, you can't touch them. So the only ones that matter are the ones that you can affect right now. So the Next election in 26 is the most important election ever. And then after that the 28 one is the most important ever.

Amy Dangerfield (26:59)

Why didn't they do this when Trump apparently had the election stolen from him? That's the thing. Why haven't Republicans already done something? At the end of the day, voter ID proof of citizenship would fix everything. If this was such a big issue, why haven't they already implemented The Republicans.

Tim Pool (27:15)

Are, how do I say, pussies. That too. Well, here's how I view Republicans. Republicans tend to have this mindset of I don't want to be the person who gets a target on his back. If I, if, if I actually do these things. Someone's going to try and kill me or accuse me of improprieties, like Brett Kavanaugh was accused of being a party to gang rapes in his college years. Like, just insane fabrication. Republicans are terrified. The truth is this. It's a simple question. If I were to tell you that, or let me just leave it like this, do you believe that the example I love using is Dave Rubin. Dave Rubin is going to lead a group of angry, violent extre to a corporate headquarters throwing firebombs because they censored him or someone else? No. Now, if I told you that some progressive leftist did, you'd be like, what do you mean? That happened yesterday in Minneapolis. The point is, conservatives don't get violent. So the Republicans go, my only fear is the left. That means if I actually stand up and say I should fight for this country, no one on the right is going to get my back and no one. And the left will try to kill me. If I demure and just say, well, you know, we gotta have decorum here. Republicans will only complain and the Democrats will leave my family alone.

Amy Dangerfield (28:40)

Yeah, but they still do just enough to antagonize the left to make them want to do that. Do you know what I mean?

Phil Avanti (28:45)

You mentioned that earlier.

Tim Pool (28:46)

I disagree. I disagree. Some Republicans do, but not enough Republicans, and I would say 80%, they're doing very little and they're getting heat, regardless.

Ian Crossland (28:56)

Yeah.

Phil Avanti (28:57)

This is something that we've talked about a little bit on the show. The idea that Republicans are the reason why Democrats behave the way that they do, or that the Republicans could do something to prevent them from behaving the way they do. I don't buy it at all. That's why I was saying, like, this election that's coming up, no matter what happens, the Democrats will do everything they can to consolidate power. If the Republicans win, then the Republicans have a chance. If they don't win, they're gonna do everything. They're gonna stall. The House will start impeachment hearings on Trump. It doesn't matter whether they have any substance or not. That's not the point. They will do everything they can to hamstring the Trump administration. And then come, you know, the presidential election, they're gonna be like, see, the Republicans didn't do anything. They didn't do all this stuff they promised you and et cetera, et cetera. And they're gonna hope that that's enough to get them over the finish line. And if they win the presidency and still have the House and the Senate, they will annihilate the whole country.

Tim Pool (29:52)

I wanna stress. Cause you said, Phil, that this is the most important election. I think the point we're seeing here with this redistricting war is that that time has come and gone. The time for these elections was before anyone realized with a conversation, several months ago after. Just after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And I said, any move we make to preempt what we believe is coming will feel premature to cite Godwin's Law. The Jews in Nazi Germany who fled, fled early. And the ones who didn't were killed. And the ones who didn't were like, you're crazy. Like, it's not gonna happen. And if you read the literature on this stuff, the reason why people stayed behind and were like, I don't think it'll ever get that bad. So after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, we ripped the conversation. And I said, you know, look, we're discussing whether or not we can keep doing this show the way we do it because we're relatively exposed. Right? We don't. Let me say it like this. Back in the day, if you had a primetime TV show that got 10 million listeners. 10 million. It was you. No other station could broadcast that. That MEANT you owned 100% of the sponsorship rights. 10 million people would watch you. You'd sell an ad for 10 million. You'd make a ton of money. I'm saying for 10 million viewers, you had millions of dollars. You hired bodyguards. Crazy security. Today, this show probably gets 10 million views or more per episode. Not on this channel or on Rumble or on podcasts, but because clips are made and the show is then shared all over the place. And so what happens is my face, Ian's face, our guest, Phil Tate, Serge. Everybody who's on the show has exposure to tens of millions of people through these clips, especially when they're taken out of context. This creates a massive risk. Death threats, etc.

Amy Dangerfield (31:41)

It already happened to you. Someone tried to shoot up your.

Tim Pool (31:43)

Someone didn't try. They did shoot up our property.

Amy Dangerfield (31:46)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (31:46)

And we don't have the ability to monetize against those views. So we get a massive spike in attention without the ability to generate the revenue that typically was used to provide security and this access. It's funny because after that conversation, then a couple months later, we had a drive by shooting. Three shots were fired at our property. Hence, we're now in Florida trying to figure out how to move forward. Right now, what I'm looking at is the elections that mattered were three, four, five years ago. The elections that mattered. Virginia. The election that mattered was the one that just happened, to be completely honest, because we'll jump in in a second. But they've basically just steamrolled. I mean, the Democrats have, have made moves in Virginia in 48 hours that scream communist revolution. And again, we'll get into it. There's no election that's going to fix that.

Tate Brown (32:36)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (32:37)

And when we go into 2026, Democrats are now eliminating Republican votes from their states. There's no election that's going to fix the House. The states have already decided the House will be, as they decide it will be Democrat. So you get to vote for your candidate, and they're gonna win. But guess what? Based on the demographic makeup of the, of the, of the districts that they've. They've decided, if you're a Democrat living in a Republican district, you make it through in Indiana because they didn't change. Change it. But in most of these Democrat states, Republican votes are effectively gone. So what do you do if you're a Republican? Let me say it like this, man. The vibes out here are fantastic in.

Phil Avanti (33:15)

Florida, they really are.

Tim Pool (33:17)

I mean, Tate, you were mentioning that people were recognizing you, you know, but.

Tate Brown (33:20)

It was, like, positive, which is great.

Tim Pool (33:21)

Well, but I mean, just like, you're a relatively new addition to the team in the past year, and even people know who you are. They watch the show Surge as well. Callan Carter getting recognized. We were talking about it, and it's just like everywhere we go, everyone's like, we watch the show and it's actually quite simple. The people who are moderates who lived in blue areas in the past four years move to Texas and Florida. So this area is a high density of people who share a moral worldview with us in West Virginia, which is very based, it's true. But borders Virginia, where when we go for food five minutes south, we're in Virginia, where people are flying pride flags. You go to Maryland, we go to some of our favorite restaurants, they fly a pride flag above, above city hall, and that's where the conflict exists. Hence, someone does a drive by. So the question now is, what do you do considering this change has already happened? It's already happened.

Amy Dangerfield (34:14)

To fight fire with fire. Right. We have to do the same.

Tim Pool (34:17)

Republicans aren't doing it. That's the point. Well, they are to a certain extent. But Indiana backed down. And now the Democrats are going to take the House not based on electoral prowess, but based on seizure of power.

Tate Brown (34:27)

Yeah, well, and Tim, I totally agree with you because I don't really buy, like, the, you know, the idea that's like, okay, well every election ramps up importance. I totally agree. Like 1992, the Republican primary. If Pat Buchanan won, we would have been out of this mess already. Like we would have mopped this up 30 years ago. And because this illustrates with the redistricting battle, this illustrates the point that I think Oren McIntyre made where it's like, look, all a, all a democracy is at this point, all an election is at this point is simply a census. All you're doing is just counting what the demographics are of your district. There's no like swinging voters anymore. And it drives me absolutely like mad that the Republicans, they're only their only like way they're actually fighting back is like this wholesome chungus, like voter drives that you're seeing where they're like, I register 10,000 people at a gas station and it's like sick. And then the election comes along, we get blown out and it's like, like, what are we doing? The only way we're actually going to compete again is like returning what the Democrats are actually doing, which is again, you're shoring up your vote because it's great, you got a bunch of people registered, but it's like they're not turning out of Trump's on the ballot and also again, they'll just redistrict you out of existence.

Tim Pool (35:29)

Okay, but let's, let's take that to its logical conclusion. Democrat. So, so it starts with Republicans, I believe in Texas, a mid decade redistricting. And Democrats said, if you want to play, we'll play too. And Democrats decided to play harder. I love this, this Jennifer Welch lady said, when we elect Democrats, they've got to be fu Democrats, not these integrity Democrats. And I'm like, I don't know that integrity Democrats exist.

Phil Avanti (35:50)

There's no such thing anymore.

Tim Pool (35:51)

No such thing. So they're already doing it. Republicans in some states said, let's play. Democrats said, we'll play harder. And Republicans are going, I guess we lose. The logical conclusion is if the Republicans do decide to fight fire with fire, Democrats say, you want to play again, we'll play harder. Democrats locked up lawyers, Trump's lawyers, Trump himself. False criminal charges. Donald Trump's DOJ says maybe mortgage fraud. Bill Pulte is the only one. Let me, let me give a shout out to Bill Pulte, seemingly the guy with the least amount of power to do it, actually getting the job done to as best degree as he can. So this guy gets put in the, was it fhsa, Federal Housing Administrator, whatever. It's called. And the DOJ is not locking these people up. The DOJ is not investigating or charging. We're not seeing anything from it. And then the guy who gets the Housing administration goes, I'm going to find a way to get charges on these people. And he finds mortgage fraud. Is that the best the Trump DOJ is going to do? So I'll put it like this. Right now, it appears the Republicans are either incapable or unwilling to fight fire with fire as Democrats run roughshod over them. And if they don't, then we're in trouble. And if they do, Democrats will escalate. It would seem that Democrats win or we get major conflict. Yeah, there was communist revolution or civil wars.

Tate Brown (37:10)

Yeah, literally. I mean, there's literally, there's a show that Republicans have no idea what time it is. There's literally a state senator in Indiana. His name was Mike something along those lines. And when Trump called Tim Waltz retarded, which was hilarious and true, he literally came out and he was like, I, I'm. I'm a man of integrity and like, I know people in my family that have down syndrome or whatever, and I'm vote. I'm a vote no on the redistricting bill because Trump is said retarded. And that's official.

Tim Pool (37:33)

He said naughty words.

Tate Brown (37:34)

I know. And I'm just like, dude, like, Charlie Kirk just got shot. Like, are you a little new around here? Do you know what time it is? I mean, these people, literally my principal types of people, the whole Chungus Republicans just need to go, let me, let.

Tim Pool (37:47)

Me, Let me at least get one word in. Guys, come on. Tell you a story. I worked at Vice. Everybody knows this. And I remember talking with Shane Smith, the CEO, who was always a really good dude, as far as I knew, despite, you know, obviously there's, there's public criticisms. And he was talking about, I think he was 45 at the time, and I was 28 or something or that. 27. And he was talking about how cable TV was it and they really wanted to get a cable channel, and that was the dream. And I'm sitting there going, like, what are you talking about? I don't know anybody who watches cable tv. And then it clicked. His world, the people he talks to, the friends he knows, the meetings he has. No one's talking about YouTube. Everyone's talking about cable TV. YouTube is a sideshow. He goes to these meetings with the advertisers, and they say, look, we want to buy on cable TV. We don't care about YouTube. And he's going, if I'm going to run a business and be with the in the big leagues, I got to be where the big leagues are. And that's tv. I was a younger guy and I said, I don't know a single person who does this. So what happens 10 years later? Who cares about cable TV, right? For us, we're sitting here going YouTube, long form podcasts and Gen Z is brain rotting AI slop. We know it's going to happen in 10 years. My point on this, that boomer guy you mentioned is like, I thought, who's retarded? You're saying, does he not know what time it is? Is he new here? No, he's surrounded only by other boomers. They're not watching the content we produce, they're watching cable tv. They don't understand what time it is because they don't live in the real world. What's going to happen as young people are radicalized, older people less likely. And as I've said a million times, when the boomers die and they're at the mortality cliff Right now at 79 years old, we are going to see millennials inheriting a lot more power. And then I can hear the Gen Xers complaining they were left out. No, it's because Gen X's are normal and stable. The millennials are where you start getting lunatics and then Gen Z is where everyone's lost their mind by the time Gen Z is in their mid-30s and they're controlling corporations and they are the ones in office and they will be. They are going to be. It's going to be full scale conflict. Right? Let's jump to this next story from the New York sun and give you the breakdown. Virginia Democrats propose a raft of new taxes after taking state government trifecta. The story is this. It's been two days since the Democrats got in after their major sweeping election and they are burning the state down. It is a full bore communist revolution. Let me, let me show you from Greg Price. Democrats now control the legislature and governor's office in Virginia. Here, just a few of the bills they've introduced. New 4.3% sales tax on Uber Eats, Amazon and deliveries. New sales tax on admissions to a wide variety of businesses. Create two new higher tax brackets of 8 and 10% of people making over 600k. New 10 tax bracket for anyone making under making over a million. 3.8 investment tax on top of state income tax. Raise the hotel tax. New personal property tax on landscaping equipment. Ban gas powered leaf blowers. Guarantee illegal aliens Free education. Make it illegal to approach somebody in abortion clinic. Extend the time of absentee ballots can be received after election Day to three days. Allow people to cast their votes electronically through the Internet. Expand ranked choice voting. Extend the deadline for ballot counting to one week after election Day. Redact the addresses of political candidates from FOIAs. Add Virginia to the National Popular Vote Compact for presidential electors. Make it illegal to hand count paper hand count ballots. $500 sales tax on firearm suppressors, assault weapons in quotes and large capacity magazine ban in Virginia of all places. Don't tread on me state. 11% sales tax on all firearms and ammunition. Prohibit outdoor shooting of a firearm and land less than 5 acres. Lower the criminal penalties for robbery. Ban the arrest of illegal aliens in courthouses. Remove mandatory minimum sentences. Allow localities to install speed cameras. Replace Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day for good. Measure the two that matter. Make it illegal to hand count ballots. Add Virginia, the National Popular Vote Compact for presidential electors. What's that one? So that means there is the National Popular Vote Compact where a series of states have an agreement with each other that should the popular vote swing one way and it would have their states have the power to affect the Electoral College. They will vote for whoever won the popular vote, not the state vote, not the Electoral college vote. Once you get a certain. They're fairly close. Once a certain number of states sign on, which I think might be like 35 or 36 or something like that, there will no longer be an Electoral college. And this effectively means what you are seeing in Maryland, in Virginia, where they are wiping out Republican voices. This country will become pure Democrat and Republicans will become second class citizens with no voice whatsoever in politics. Because with the National Popular Vote Compact, well, there's a lot of arguments about how it would play out. One is that you've got, what is it, you know, 20 million. How many or 10 million Republicans. What's the, you know, how many people are in California? Is it 50, 60 million?

Phil Avanti (42:45)

30, 60?

Tate Brown (42:47)

It's 36 million.

Tim Pool (42:48)

36 million. Right. And like what, 35% or 40% are Republican and their voice is not represented because the way the state works, some argue more Republicans will turn out to vote if it's a national popular vote.

Phil Avanti (43:00)

39.4 a Republican. No, 39.4 million.

Tim Pool (43:03)

Generally. However, the idea is Democrats tend to get the popular vote. Republicans get the Electoral college vote. If they enact this, Republicans can never win again unless they become Democrats. The Republican Party then becomes gay communists. The Democrats become AI. That's the joke about the future. Based on what the Republican Party already does, we're cooked.

Tate Brown (43:25)

Yeah. Do you guys, do you guys hear that? Do you hear that noise? That's four years of Glenn Youngkin gone with the sign of a pen. Yeah, unironically, because the Virginia Republicans, they had this genius idea where they're like, hey, maybe we can step into the left's framework and then beat that, beat them at their own game. It's like, let's, let's run a base black woman and she's going to carry a gun around and she's going to talk about how the Democrats are the real racists. Boom, there you go. Four years of Glenn Youngkin down the drain. A very effective governor, by the way. I mean, Glenn Youngkin, you know, he's not this like super authentically right wing governor like a lot of people want. He's not quite Desantis flavor. Very effective, especially for a state like Virginia, that is a light blue state. Great, great legacy, etc. More gone like that. Just because again, the Republicans want to like have a one over on Democrats because they're just so desperate to get approval from like this gay zeitgeist.

Tim Pool (44:09)

Here's what's going to happen. Virginia's new bills are going to result in gun owners, many of them fleeing, wealthy individuals fleeing. It's going to cause massive problems for the state budget. California is expected to lose a trillion dollars, a trillion dollars because of their wealth tax proposal. Billionaires are like, I will leave, I will, I will look at some somewhere else. It's going to happen to Virginia as well. The conditions are going to cause more anger. And what do we see in places like Venezuela when the Venezuelan retard government destroyed their economy with retard communist policies. Instead of saying, guys, I think we're retarded, they said, it's not our fault, it's the imperialists who are destroying our country. Well, that's not true. But what's gonna happen in Virginia and in California is they're going to say we did everything right. The reason why we have feces everywhere and no money. It's Trump's fault.

Phil Avanti (45:04)

Yep.

Tim Pool (45:05)

And then they're going to get violent.

Phil Avanti (45:06)

You know, more than they already are. When the, when the extremely rich leaves, they, they're going to pass those taxes on to the people that they, they say are the, the millionaires. But the, at least in California, the property tax that they're talking about, it's any property you own. I've got a friend that's like, maybe, maybe he has a million Bucks, but probably not. He's definitely not a multimillionaire. But his house is in Lakewood and it's a nice area and it's worth a million dollars. Now. It's a, it's, it's two stories, maybe. I think there's probably, you know, four or five rooms or whatever. It's a normal, what you would consider a normal house. If you looked at that. You take that house and you put it in South Carolina, it's probably $400,000.

Tim Pool (45:45)

Right?

Phil Avanti (45:46)

Like, it's, it's a nice house, but it's not some kind of extravagancy. He's going to be treated like a millionaire. They're going to tax him as if he's a millionaire. When the billionaires leave, they're going to go after the middle class. This is what happens in socialist countries all the time. That's why you end up with no middle class and a huge poor population and only the, the extremely rich and wealthy people that are connected that can get around it. They're going to destroy California if that passes. And you're going to see that move happening in other states as well. I was talking to another friend. They're doing similar things in Washington state. The, They've got a socialist mayor in Seattle. Their. Boeing is leaving or has largely left. Amazon will go if they pass it. There's another big company up, I think, IBM.

Tate Brown (46:30)

Those companies are relocating to Virginia. That's interesting.

Phil Avanti (46:32)

Well, they're, they're, they're, they want to look at that and be like, well, maybe we've got to go somewhere else.

Tate Brown (46:36)

Well, this is what makes Virginia. And it's like a, kind of an interesting exception because most of the people there aren't there for, like a favorable business environment. They're there for proximity to Washington, D.C. without having to get hammered on D.C. taxes. Now, again, this could be enough to maybe persuade them to move somewhere else, but they really have much of an option. One thing that's interesting is the national GOP does have a trick up their sleeve. If they again were so brave to do it is they could just revoke the secession of Arlington, which they again, they see. Did Arlington and Alexandria to the state.

Phil Avanti (47:02)

Of Virginia make D.C. square again?

Tate Brown (47:04)

Yeah. D.C. has the ability, like they actually have the ability to make D.C. a square again. That lops off like 500,000 voters to D.C. and again puts Virginia back in play. But as we've seen here, I wouldn't hold my bro.

Tim Pool (47:16)

The things I would do if I were president or at least speaker or majority Leader in the Senate probably get assassinated.

Amy Dangerfield (47:27)

Why isn't Trump doing. Why? Why? Why isn't he doing anything?

Tim Pool (47:32)

I think the issue is that Trump is currently negotiating with NATO and one man can only do so much. So it's funny, right? I can't remember what happened. We were at the. We were at Freedomistan, and someone. One of the guests was here, and they were like, oh, hey, where do you keep the toilet paper? And I went, I have no idea. And he was like, oh, it's your company, dude. And I was like, you think I know what the toilet paper, bro? I have no idea what's going on half the time. I have two words for anybody who asks me a question about the functioning of this business. Anyone know what they are?

Phil Avanti (48:01)

Ask Allison.

Tim Pool (48:02)

Indeed. That's right. Ask Mark.

Amy Dangerfield (48:06)

Okay.

Ian Crossland (48:06)

Yeah.

Phil Avanti (48:06)

No, to be fair, Mark. I mean, I love Mark, but he is fairly new to the business, so.

Tim Pool (48:11)

Right.

Amy Dangerfield (48:12)

It's so sad.

Tim Pool (48:12)

That is the plan. Ask Mark is the new phrase. Look, I complain on the Internet and the functioning of how we do things or execution, but the minutiae duck. So to the point of Trump, his DOJ goes to them and they say, we've got a thing going on in Minnesota. And he goes like. He's like, hold on the phone with Macron. What were you saying? Get a subpoena on him. What are you doing? And they go, okay. And then he's like, now, back to the things that matter. Greenland, Saudi Arabia, petro deals, the South China Sea. The foreign policy stuff is the. Is the true purview of the president. War, foreign affairs. And so he's not in my. I would estimate Trump's getting a briefing from DHS and the DOJ on internal affairs. You know, I mean, like domestic affairs. And he's looking at it and saying, okay, here, do this, do that. I'm gonna. What is he focused on? What's he talking about? He's talking to world leaders about Greenland.

Amy Dangerfield (49:01)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (49:02)

So if it were me, I'd imagine first, realistically, anybody here, Anybody watching, you'd be in the same position as Trump. However, I'm also a bit of a lunatic, and I think much more willing to be crazier than Trump would be. And I think it's probably because it's like a youth factor thing. I think as much as people wanna say Trump is crazy, he might push the button. Like, no, Trump is an older guy. He's seen a lot. He's more experienced. He is wise, he's a bit brash. Me, I just. I'd go on TV and be like, it's time to arrest all of these people. Someone do it.

Tate Brown (49:39)

Yeah. There was a YouGov poll that half of zoomer Trump supporters just said, ignore scotus. So it's like, clearly young people are just kind of fed up with the pomp and circus.

Amy Dangerfield (49:48)

The optics of it are crazy, though. Like, I get it. He probably is doing a lot of important things behind the scenes that maybe we do not know or understand or he's delegated these things to other people in his cabinet. Right. But it just seems like when you look at it on the face of things, it seems like he's been too busy like renaming things like, you know, Gulf of America, Department of War. It's like, who cares about these things? Who cares about the renaming thing?

Tim Pool (50:14)

I disagree, I disagree. Perception is reality.

Amy Dangerfield (50:17)

But I think he's bad at the optics. That's what I'm saying. Like, like the optics of it on the faces that he's not doing anything. Does he not care about the way that it looks? I mean, to kind of do a little side note even. Did you guys see the event that they threw at Mar A Lager over the weekend with the fairies? They literally. It was like some Humane Society event that they were running where basically they were liberal slop. Yeah, yeah. But they literally had people wearing essentially furry moss. And are we forgetting about the fact that literally three months ago Tim. Tim Dillon said this on his podcast. Charlie Kirk was assassinated by the boyfriend of a furry. Apparently that's. That's the narrative. And yet now they're hosting these grand events. Are you pulling it up?

Tate Brown (51:02)

It's crazy.

Tim Pool (51:02)

Oh, yeah, they did have a furry party.

Amy Dangerfield (51:04)

Look at it. It's actually insane. This is what I mean. Does he not even care about the optics of how it works? To everybody else, it was for like the Humane Society awarding like dogs, like the most.

Phil Avanti (51:17)

I think, because the Humane Society and this is splitting hairs. And I think that I agree with you on the optics of it, but I think that if you're going to steal me on what's going on, this wasn't about furries. Cuz furry furries is a whole LGBT connected, generally LGBT T connected, weird fetish thing. Whereas this was set up by the. The Humane Society or whatever. And it was about animals, not about.

Tim Pool (51:44)

Yeah, it wasn't furries. It was just. Yeah, like it is.

Amy Dangerfield (51:46)

They look like furries.

Tim Pool (51:50)

That's why I gave furries. Furries dressed like cartoon animals. Those people were dressed like animals. There's a distinction. Furish furries have, have like an identity of a cartoon animal. They dress like Bugs Bunny, whereas these were like dog costumes. It's goofy.

Tate Brown (52:05)

But the Humane Society should be kept as far away from conservatives.

Tim Pool (52:08)

Yeah, I mean it's not good.

Phil Avanti (52:10)

But I do think that it's worth making a distinction.

Tim Pool (52:12)

Let's go to this next story and the headline is easy. Women are nuts.

Tate Brown (52:16)

So true.

Tim Pool (52:17)

Women are more likely to support political assassinations. Now, you know what I don't like about this headline Daily Wire is that the actual study is majority of Americans find killing of Trump or Mamdani justified. That should not. That should be the headline. But it goes to show you the Daily Wire audience, when they lead with women are more likely to support assassinations. That's the modern era, right? More likely to remark if I titled the video like Women are nuts, I'd get way more views than if I titled it Women favor assassinations.

Tate Brown (52:46)

And it's true, the foids have gone a little crazy. I mean this is what happens when they're literally like, like drip fed murder documentaries for like 20 years in a rookie. That's why women unwind.

Amy Dangerfield (52:55)

Is there the true crime genre. It's insane.

Tate Brown (52:59)

Let me unwind it like a zodiac killer document.

Tim Pool (53:01)

Right. So here's, here's what's serious. Both the right and the left, according to this poll, in the majorities believe it's time for political assassinations. Of course, more so on the left. But what surprised me is that even conservatives agreed in the assassination of Mamdani. Females at 54.7%. Now that may be shocking to a lot of people. I think it's absolutely psychotic for anyone to support assassinations of either of these people. I think Mamdani is a very, very bad guy. But I think you handle this with FEMA management campaigns. The federal government can come in and if it's really bad, remove him from power. But you know why people are saying things like this with Trump? They're calling him the Gestapo. He's Hitler, he's a Nazi, he's rounding up children. Mamdani says he wants to abolish ice and he's advocating for non American citizens. The degree of extremism in this country at the political level, I view it largely on the liberal side. Let's be honest, this is a country that has always had laws. If you're a politician and you vow to defend non citizens from the law, you're a rogue politician. The answer to that, Federal government should go and remove you from power and Mamdani should be removed. I absolutely Think so. Trump, however, has been buddy, buddy, however, for your run of the mill, regular old conservative. Looks like about half of them are saying Trump won't do it and something needs to be done. And that's terrifying.

Amy Dangerfield (54:19)

What is this sample like, I'm curious, like, how many people were polled in this?

Tim Pool (54:24)

I think it was 15. Around 1500. Let me see if I can find the cross tabs. I want the question too, right.

Amy Dangerfield (54:31)

I mean, all this stuff matters, right?

Tim Pool (54:33)

The question was not that do you want to assassinate, but are there. It was something like, are there circumstances in which the assassination of Mamdani would be justified? And around half of Republicans said yes.

Amy Dangerfield (54:47)

That's insane.

Tim Pool (54:47)

Asked that of Trump. They said something similar. Let me see if I can find the actual cross tabs. But in the meantime, here we are.

Phil Avanti (54:54)

Yeah, I mean, look to, to discuss political assassinations. It just shows how deteriorated our, our political discourse has gotten.

Tim Pool (55:09)

This is.

Phil Avanti (55:09)

This is not okay. And it's probably largely because of like super online people. You know, this kind of rhetoric is something that you will see just, just on tick tock all the time. I mean, you can go and look at how many. The way people reacted to Charlie Kirk or to Donald Trump, getting the attack on Donald Trump and stuff. There are a lot of people that think that this is just a game. Like, Tim's made the point. Good. The lady that was shot in Minneapolis, her wife was, was hollering, why did you have real bullets? As if law enforcement would ever not have real bullets like you. There is a distinction between riot control and regular law enforcement.

Tim Pool (55:53)

This is actually interesting. It was 2,221American adults. However, they excised participants around 1170 for lack of quality responses. They were filtered out, leading to a final sample of 1,055 balanced on gender, race, ethnicity, age and education. On a U.S. census. On U.S. census benchmarks. Additionally, the sample was weighted on age, four categories. Race, five categories, gender, three categories, and education, four categories. I like it. Gender had three categories. Man, woman, or. I forgot. And the question was. Let me see if they have the question. But is there. Could there. Let me see what. How they phrased it. Let's see. It said at least. Do you believe there is at least some justification for assassination? I believe was the question.

Ian Crossland (56:41)

Oh, that's so crazy to say yes to right now.

Tim Pool (56:44)

What?

Ian Crossland (56:44)

People are demoralized.

Tim Pool (56:45)

Do you believe there's at least some justification for murdering Donald Trump? Do you believe there's at least some justification for murdering Zoran Mamdani? And we find that of Trump 54% of centrists said yes, 54 of right of center, 50% of all categories, with 40.4% of left. I'm sorry, that was Mamdani. This is Mamdani. Not, not Trump.

Tate Brown (57:06)

So 40% of people on the left are also saying that, like, what justification were they giving? Like, he also killed someone. Like, that's like a really weird.

Tim Pool (57:15)

And on the right, they say the same thing for Trump. People on the right say there is some justification for murdering Trump. The point is it's not a, do you want to do it? It's do you think? Like, it's. When I saw that 42% of. Of people right of center agreed there was some justification for the murder of Trump. It's not a question of whether they want it to happen. It's whether they perceive these individuals having done things that someone would be like, he must be stopped.

Ian Crossland (57:43)

These thinkers aren't going far. You have to. Is it justified? You have to justify what comes after the action too, and all the potential outcomes. Can you justify that as well? It's not like the chaos and tumult that could ensue is not people.

Phil Avanti (58:00)

I think people are far ahead.

Amy Dangerfield (58:01)

Yeah. They're disconnected from the real outcomes. And people are being radicalized online, specifically women, like they have, specifically. So I'm not surprised by the title of this headline. They've been very good at radicalizing women in politics. And when you look at social media platforms, the issue is, you know, on TikTok, you're talking about the content over there. Like a lot of right wing content gets censored on TikTok. So it's leftist voices that are projected. And this is the dominant influence that, that women are receiving because they don't even have the option of seeing this right wing content in a lot of instances. I mean, it was just like a few years ago, A year ago, literally, you couldn't even put Nick Fuentes in the title of a YouTube video. You had to like put asterisks on it to prevent the video from being taken down. So the amount of right wing content that is censored versus left wing content has resulted in. In radicalization of women. I mean, to me it makes perfect sense why women.

Ian Crossland (58:59)

What have you noticed about women are so emotional?

Amy Dangerfield (59:02)

And here's the thing, they play on that they know that women are emotional. And this is why controversial take. I don't think that women should be in high positions of power in politics. Honestly, I, I learned a statistic recently that's kind of interesting. So cortisol Right. The stress, this hormone that both men and women experience. I recently learned that 1 tablespoon or teaspoon of cortisol, it takes women an entire day to metabolize that. So basically she needs to go to sleep and wake up the next morning and she'll be okay. She'll be reset. Whereas a man, he can metabolize that within a period of a couple of hours. Women do not react well to stressful situations and the media and left wing politicians are counting on that and they're weaponizing that against women.

Ian Crossland (59:49)

Yep.

Phil Avanti (59:50)

I mean like I'm not repeal the 19th guy.

Amy Dangerfield (59:54)

I kind of am.

Phil Avanti (59:55)

Well, I mean I'm not a repeal the 19th guy because it doesn't go nearly far enough. I think that, that the, the people that. I think that there should be a specific class of people that are allowed to vote. Maybe property owners or business owners, but I don't think, I think there are, there are plenty of women that should, plenty of women that should be allowed to vote. But I don't think that it should be just blanket all women. But I do think that it should be. There should be a certain group of people that pass tests and, and who have a, have the, the responsibility and understand the responsibility of the vote.

Amy Dangerfield (60:28)

100 and yet just illegal aliens and dead people are voting.

Tim Pool (60:33)

So I mean, I don't, I, I.

Phil Avanti (60:34)

Don'T think whether you're an illegal alien, I think if you're a first generation person that you've, you've immigrated to the United States, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You wouldn't be allowed.

Amy Dangerfield (60:41)

No, no. And I wouldn't want, honestly for multiple reasons. I mean, I think it should be pro household. I want my fiance's vote to count. I feel like if you're a married couple, especially like usually married couples have similar like political opinions. But like for example, if it's a right wing guy and a left wing woman and they're married, I feel like the husband's vote should count.

Ian Crossland (61:01)

Yeah, because you identify with his political party.

Amy Dangerfield (61:05)

No, because I mean you're just splitting the vote like per household. It doesn't make any sense. And to your point, I think that should just be a highest standard in general when it comes to people who allow to vote.

Phil Avanti (61:15)

That's ever happened to America. Was MTV's Rock the Vote in the 90s. Literally horrible idea.

Tate Brown (61:19)

And the man should be leading the household anyway. So if the woman is like dominating your household and winning the household's vote, then like you just deserve that. You deserve to get outvoted.

Phil Avanti (61:27)

Yeah, but we don't deserve that. Like, America doesn't deserve that.

Tate Brown (61:30)

But you know, these, these guys, you know, these, these Longhouse guys, they need to learn their lesson. Maybe they do need, like, a communist takeover.

Amy Dangerfield (61:37)

It's so crazy. When you look at, like, Australia, for example, did you guys know that everyone in Australia is compelled to vote? Like, if you don't vote, you literally get fines.

Tate Brown (61:44)

Dang. It's like LeBron's vote or die. But it's, like, real.

Tim Pool (61:47)

It's terrible.

Phil Avanti (61:47)

Just for the terrible idea.

Ian Crossland (61:48)

Just for the national election or all a bunch of elections for.

Amy Dangerfield (61:52)

For. No, I think it's just for the national. I would need to confirm that. Maybe Chat will fact check to me, but definitely for the national election. Every single person is compelled to vote.

Tate Brown (62:03)

So they compel you to vote, but then they ban, like, a bunch of parties.

Amy Dangerfield (62:06)

Yeah, it's ridiculous. And I'm like, I moved to America for a reason. I've been here nearly 10 years. I have not returned to Australia since I moved over here.

Phil Avanti (62:16)

Are you allowed to?

Amy Dangerfield (62:18)

Well, honestly, with some of the political opinions that I've espoused, I wouldn't be surprised that if I went back, they would not let me in or they'd be waiting there to, like, arrest me or something. Perhaps Australia has really turned into a socialist hellhole. And it's really sad to see America kind of leaning in that direction. It's really scary.

Phil Avanti (62:35)

Look, America's the last bastion of freedom in the west, actual liberty. And it's come down to maybe half the country or maybe two thirds of the country actually respects the things that were laid out in the Constitution and actually cares about the things that the founders actually cared about.

Tate Brown (62:53)

Yeah, but that's the whole point of Me and Connors across the Pond show is to illustrate, look, the Anglosphere, even though Australia, New Zealand, the UK are further down the road than we are, again, they are all part of the same sort of philosophical, like, heritage track. And so again, Australia and the UK are just their cousins. So they're indicators of what could realistically play out in the U.S. in Australia, you're seeing, you're seeing the mass migration completely overhauling society. You're seeing, again, a lot of the heritage Australians just tacking off to the left. And it's like, okay, they're just really 20 years ahead, maybe 10 years ahead of what realistically could occur in the.

Amy Dangerfield (63:26)

U.S. yeah, we should be putting measures in place now to ensure that that does not happen when it comes to Australia. I see it as like a twofold thing. They're like number one, they're importing the third world. Okay. They're trying to flood it with as many immigrants as possible to cause chaos because they want their problem reaction solution playbook. So they're importing the third world, but they're simultaneously implementing all of these super dystopian policies like their digital ID that they're now mandating, which is basically going to be the thing that underpins a social credit score. Like, I would not surprised if Australia becomes the first country in the west to basically reflect communist China and everything other than name.

Tate Brown (64:04)

Yeah, they're certainly naming the reflected in demographics. There's so many Chinese people.

Amy Dangerfield (64:10)

I mean, I saw a video that was like spot the Australian around New Year's. It was like a New Year's celebration. And it was. It was. You couldn't really see. You really had to like peel your eyes to see one white Australian.

Tate Brown (64:24)

Yeah.

Amy Dangerfield (64:25)

In this whole like grouping of people which was in the thousands. And yeah, it speaks a lot to.

Phil Avanti (64:30)

Where Australia is at the new Where's Waldo?

Tim Pool (64:32)

It's first. Yeah. I mean, let's jump to this story we got here from Yahoo News is interesting. I just actually saw the tweet. ICE agents drew guns on off duty officer in Minnesota. Chief says we have this video clip from News Nation. I'm not exactly sure what the chief said because I'm just now seeing this, but I do want to play it because it sounds insane. Let's roll tape.

Mark, Brooklyn Park Police Chief (64:53)

Good morning, everyone. I'm Mark, really Police chief of City of Brooklyn Park. Behind me is a bunch of amazing police chiefs that are here in support of a very short but very important message that we want to share with you. What you won't hear from any of us today is rhetoric of abolish ICE or that there shouldn't be immigration enforcement. The truth is immigration enforcement is necessary for national security and for local security. But how it's done is extremely important. In fact, we have a long history of working exceptionally well with our federal partners, including ICE agents. And we have seen the best of them perform their job extremely well in the past. With that said, recently as the last two weeks, we as law enforcement community have been receiving endless complaints about civil rights violations in our streets from US citizens. What we're hearing is they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street with no cause and being forced to demand paperwork to determine if they are here legally. As this went on over the past two weeks, we started hearing from our police officers the Same complaints as they fell victim to this while off duty. Every one of these individuals is a person of color who has had this happen to them. In Brooklyn Park. One particular officer that shared her story with me was stopped as she passed ICE going down the roadway. When they boxed her in, they demanded her paperwork, of which she's a US citizen and clearly would not have any paperwork. When she became concerned about the rhetoric and the way she was being treated, she pulled out her phone in an attempt to record the incident. The phone was knocked out of her hands, preventing her from recording it. The officer had their guns drawn during this interaction and after the officer became so concerned, they were forced to identify themselves as a Brooklyn park police officer in hopes of slowing the incident and de escalating the incident down. The agents then immediately left after hearing this, making no other comments, no other apologies, just got in their vehicles and left. I wish I could tell you that this was an isolated incident. In fact, many of the chiefs standing behind me have similar incidents with their off duty officer. This isn't just important because it happened to off duty police officers, but what it did do is we know that our officers know what the Constitution is. They know what right and wrong is, and they know when people are being targeted. And that's what they were.

Tim Pool (67:39)

I'm gonna tell you right now, this is what war looks like. The conservatives are going to say ICE is justified because we've had 20 million illegal immigrants and we are trying to get the worst of the worst out of the country. It's not a big deal to get stopped and ask for your id. In fact, I said this about Chicago. I saw the DHS guys walking around Chicago when they, when they came out, you know, earlier in the year. And I said, I'm for it. My worst case, what they're signed me and say, sir, do you have your id? I'd say, absolutely, officer, here's my id. And they'd say, thank you. I said, keep up the good work boys. It's all that would happen. Yeah, there are certainly a lot of people that I never understood this. I certainly get you don't want your civil rights violated, but a cop stopping you and within reason saying, excuse me, you know, we're concerned about certain criminal activity in the area. Do you have an ID on you? It's sure, I understand. However, in certain circumstances I'd also be like, am I being detained? Am I free to go? Because you know, necessarily just don't just trust the government. Right. The problem is largely conservatives view this effort as going into a jurisdiction filled with fraud crime. I mean, the fraud is off the charts, the crime is off the charts. And so they want this to happen. I certainly think, as I said last year, that ice needs to be 200% above board. They should be wearing khakis and polo shirts as they conduct these operations because it's going to be weaponized against them. Trump will lose the election in the midterms if it looks scary to regular people. That being said, conservatives will largely defend it and say, look, if you're a cop and they come up to you and ask for id, why are you fighting with them? Why, why, why would another cop, she could say, certainly I'm an officer with the, you know, what was the name of the city? Brooklyn Park. I'm with the Brooklyn Park Police. I got my badge and ID on me. I'll grab it right now. You know what it's like to be a cop. You know what happens when someone's coming to ask you questions and you're a cop? What are you worried about? Liberals are gonna say this proves their Gestapo. The police are even complying with the one thing that matters. Your opinion on it? Immaterial. The police have come out and issued a statement against federal law enforcement expressing the conflict and the division. This, in my view, I don't see a path towards de escalation. Unless Trump does some kind of insurrection act goes in and then assumes domestic law enforcement operations, you are going to see more local law enforcement coming out and escalating the division between federal and local law enforcement.

Ian Crossland (70:06)

Do the calculation here. If the whole purpose of this ICE operation is to reduce harm by removing bad people, and the way you do that is by creating even worse people, people that will fight you even harder than what those immigrants might have done.

Phil Avanti (70:19)

No, no.

Ian Crossland (70:20)

Then it's a failing.

Amy Dangerfield (70:21)

Desperate times call for desperate measures, Ian. Okay? Like they're, they're doing their thing for a reason.

Ian Crossland (70:27)

But if you can get your enemy to become desperate, you've got them where you want them.

Phil Avanti (70:30)

So I, I mean, I reject the idea that, that, that this is worse than the crimes that are being committed by the criminals. Okay, so right off the bat, but, but I do think that if ICE is, is being this heavy handed, not that I, I have, you know, have any kind of serious moral problem with, with people showing the police their ID or law enforcement their id, but the fact that, the fact that the, the police chief is getting on TV and talking about it, to Tim's point, it is really bad for optics. And, and I do think that this is something that the administration and the DOJ really need to be careful about. Just the, like, the optics of this is bad. You don't want to have this as, as something that's in the front of people's minds. It's bad enough that, that to deport people and wrap them up makes, you know, makes ICE and DOJ look like they're, they're using too much force, particularly because the left's going to do whatever they can to make it look like they're using too much force. They're going to go out there and they're going to try and inhibit their, the activities and stuff. So it's bad optically and so that they should avoid it just for that reason.

Tim Pool (71:37)

The problem is the Republicans are not evil enough. And what I mean by I.e. pR games are the easiest games to play unless you're an honest person because you hear a story like this and the left is all freaking out. The only thing you need is for a, you know, look, they, they got, you know, Bovino. Is that his name? Right?

Tate Brown (72:00)

The Greg Bavino?

Tim Pool (72:01)

Yeah, yeah, Greg. And they're decked out and they look, they look like warriors, right? And I don't mean that in a derogatory way. I mean like they look like they're out there to do the fight that plays really well with a certain base of people. But you don't need to do that to play well to a base of people. You can, you can have a guy go on camera and do a press conference and say that woman was attempting to assault officers. This is an outrage. My point is this. They don't lie. Mistakes get made. ICE is heavy handed and then they get called out and they go, well, and people in the comments say, but she was obstructing and things like that. If Trump really was evil, if the DOJ and ICE were really evil, they would be pulling off false flags. The things like, the things that would be happening. Here's what an evil Empire administration would actually do. And I'll tell you because you know it, because you've seen it. Remember Gulf of Tonkin? If Trump was actually trying to assert control and do whatever he wanted, he'd have a couple of ICE agents get brutally murdered. False flag attack. That's what Operation Northwoods was about. The US Government has a history of feigning the victim, attacking itself and then flying a false flag and blaming their enemies. Not happening. Not happening. Literally. ICE is going out there heavy handed. The liberals are complaining about it and the DHS is carrying on. So they can either play it straight, pull back and say, we got to make sure every interaction is so far beyond board, above board, that this doesn't happen. Come out and give a reasonable approach and say, these things happen in law enforcement operations. And for that we apologize. We will do better. This is about enforcing the law with thousands of officers trying to find thousands of rapists and murderers. Sometimes these things will happen. Trust us, we're on your side. That's the appropriate response. If they were evil, they just come out and make up stories and lie and do whatever they wanted.

Amy Dangerfield (73:53)

And this just radicalizes everyday people more who aren't really tapped into what's going on. People who perceive this as scary. And that's why you're getting things like, did you guys see the woman who was trying to intercept ICE offices when they were actually trying to carry out, like a pedophile, like sting operation?

Tim Pool (74:09)

Yeah.

Amy Dangerfield (74:09)

It's insane.

Tim Pool (74:10)

There's a video of women crying.

Amy Dangerfield (74:11)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (74:12)

And the cops went to a house where it's the known address for two wanted pedophiles. And there was a guy in the house who was temporarily detained because they need to search the house for two wanted illegal immigrant pedophiles. And there's this young blonde liberalman crying like, like, lady, this is law enforcement stuff. Happens all the time. I've seen so much worse. It's insane.

Amy Dangerfield (74:34)

Yet they perceive, oh my God, the ICE offices as worse than detaining pedophiles. Like not just illegals, but illegal.

Tim Pool (74:42)

Well, the guy who was detained was not a pedophile.

Amy Dangerfield (74:44)

Right. But to, to go into the house to obstruct the actual.

Tim Pool (74:47)

Just. These people live in a, in a fictitious reality. They are deluded because the media tells them it's the Gestapo, Nazis. Here. I will say this. When this cop says, here's another problem. We're getting a bunch of calls about our rights being violated. I don't believe it's real for a second. I don't believe it's real for a second. If a regular. If you're walking down the street and a cop stops you and says, excuse me, sir, I hate to trouble you, but we're on the lookout for a certain individual. Would you mind showing us your ID just so we can make sure you know it's not you. Most people are going to be like, okay, I guess. And they're going to show the ideas. I'm like, sorry to bother you. And they're going to leave. Now imagine if before that happens, this guy's hearing from his friends Being like, dude, these guys will stop you and ask for your ID and then stab you. And they'll stab you. It's a trick. Don't believe they're not really cops. Then he's walking down the street and he sees a cop say, can I have your id? He's going to go, and then he's going to call the police and be like, some guy was trying to kill me. It was the crazy thing I've ever experienced. The left keeps spreading this message that the Gestapo is coming to violate your rights. And they think your rights are violated when a cop says, you are temporarily detained. And they go, oh, God, it's the Nazis, bro. We've had stop and frisk for decades. This is not new stuff. Yeah, you could, you can complain about and say it's not good, but to act like this is a new thing. Under Trump, there was a viral meme I thought was really funny. Obama giving Tom Holman an award. And it was like, you know, 2012, Obama gives his, you know, head of immigration or whatever, enforcement an award. 2019, Trump does the same thing. It's the same guy. Tom Holman worked through various administrations. Nobody complained about him back then, they complain about him now. It's fake. It's largely fake. That's what I think.

Amy Dangerfield (76:21)

So is there a path to de escalation?

Tim Pool (76:26)

My concern is the people who are largely uninitiated, which there are very few still. But also there is the initiated center lane. The, like the. The Rogan crowd, we can call it. Right. Joe Rogan's a regular guy. He does comedy, but he does some kind of politics. And there are people watch his show and they voted for Trump, but they're not super political. These aren't. I don't consider them uninitiated because they are listening to the news. Uninitiated People are few and far between these days, but they're people who are like, I don't know anything about news, I don't watch, but these people are going to get scared and there's going to be a question that they pose in their minds first, who is the craziest? Well, for a long time it was the left. Violence, riots, wokeness, child sex changes. And that freaked them out. Then the question was, who's going to win? And the reason why the woke got away with it was because the fear was they had all the power. So the middle of the road, people were scared to say things. They were like, if I speak up, I'll get fired from my job. Yeah, well, then it Started to become more and more apparent that the anti woke, those were calling out the incentive, were winning. So the middle of the road, people finally came out and said, you know what, I agree, this is insane. It needs to stop. Now with ICE going out, new optics are emerging. People are getting freaked out by guys in masks with guns going door to door and arresting people. And the narrative about Nazis and Gestapo and Trump losing. So the questions are once again posed in the mind of the normie who's crazy, and they go, well, these ICE guys going around like, that lady got shot, that's crazy. I mean, even if she was driving into him, she wasn't trying to kill him. And that's nuts. They're freaked out. Then the question is, who's gonna win? Doesn't look like Trump's gonna win, especially with the renditioning efforts. So what you're gonna see is people are gonna go back to hiding and the woke is gonna get a resurgence if this continues. That's why narrative control is so important. That's why Donald Trump wanted his cabinet to be media savvy. But I gotta say, they're not. They're not Harmy Dylan is. She's fantastic. She should have been the ag. I thought since Trump named it Space.

Ian Crossland (78:28)

Force, I'm like, God, that guy is 50, 80 years old, isn't he?

Tim Pool (78:32)

What?

Ian Crossland (78:32)

Space Force.

Tim Pool (78:33)

What should he have called it?

Ian Crossland (78:34)

Oh, anything other than that. Call it the Federation of Planets or something like, why.

Tim Pool (78:41)

The Navy? We've got the army and we have no space.

Ian Crossland (78:43)

You already have a force. You don't need us another.

Tim Pool (78:45)

You have the Air Force.

Ian Crossland (78:45)

You don't want another four. It was just so dumb and redundant.

Tim Pool (78:48)

And like, okay, you're not making an argument.

Ian Crossland (78:50)

You're not making an argument drawn by an 80 year old man. And it's in a square and it has a yellow pretty picture. Hold on. Terrible, cheap, boring, loser optics.

Tim Pool (78:58)

I gotta stop you. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Optics.

Ian Crossland (79:01)

Trump's mishandling of optics throughout his entire life.

Tim Pool (79:03)

Your opinion on the name of Space Force is. Is immaterial to the conversation we are having.

Ian Crossland (79:08)

This name.

Tim Pool (79:09)

Okay, thank you.

Ian Crossland (79:10)

But Gulf of America similarly cringe, in my opinion.

Phil Avanti (79:12)

Gulf of America, it's literally.

Tate Brown (79:14)

Literally.

Phil Avanti (79:14)

It's like North America, South America. It makes perfect sense for it to be the Gulf of America.

Ian Crossland (79:19)

Call it something other than the Gulf.

Tim Pool (79:20)

Of we've just spent 20 years ago. Like the call, like the American Shoebox of America. It's not a shoebox, it's a golf.

Ian Crossland (79:28)

The Sea of America, I don't know.

Tate Brown (79:30)

Call it like liberty scene.

Ian Crossland (79:33)

It wasn't creative.

Phil Avanti (79:34)

You know, golf of.

Amy Dangerfield (79:35)

I mean, liberty. You know, I kind of get. Get your point. That's what I was saying at the, the start of the podcast. It seems like he's been more concerned with renaming things than actually focused on carrying out. But that's how it looks to. I think a lot more people are more uninitiated than what we think because we're so immersed in this space. Like, we think that everybody. Because most of the people that we interact with and talk to on a day to day basis are involved in this space. But I think there, I think a lot of Americans who I.

Tim Pool (80:07)

A lot of Americans, but proportionally not a lot of Americans. Right? So a lot could be a couple, you know, 10, 20 million. And we're like, there's a lot of people who don't, but that's less than 10. I go out on a daily basis and it is. I like, I. I'll put it like this. The Epstein stuff plays well in the beltway, but for regular people, they're like, man, I'm just concerned about the price economics. But very few people I interact with don't have. Like when I go out on the weekends, most people that I encounter are familiar with what's going on to a certain degree. Yeah. I encountered one guy recently. He was like, I don't watch the news. Just one guy now. Some people are wrong. You know, I meet liberals, I meet conservatives, but they're initiated in this politics. They have a moral worldview.

Ian Crossland (80:54)

It's so hard to tell. We could be in a bubble. I can't tell. It's impossible to get a finger on the wall.

Tim Pool (80:59)

You're in a bubble. I can, I don't know, but we're in.

Ian Crossland (81:01)

You're in a bubble. No, I'm not like you think about it. So obviously you're gonna see it around you more often.

Tim Pool (81:07)

And I am not in a bubble.

Ian Crossland (81:09)

Everyone's in their own reality bubble to a certain degree.

Tim Pool (81:11)

Then I'll put it like this. My bubble is bigger than yours and most people's.

Ian Crossland (81:17)

The community's still a human bubble that we're all. Everyone's in there. Like, you only know what, a thousand people, 500 people or something.

Tim Pool (81:24)

Obviously I'm not apprised of what's going on in China or Japan or France. For the most, most part, my bubble is, is, is America. But in terms of politics, the people that I engage with, typically every week, are a spattering across the board, a variety of people I talk to all day, all the time. So one of the reasons I love playing poker, people come in and out and, you know, I'm hanging out with Robbie, and we're asking people what they do for a living, and we're asking them questions. I, I, I, I often don't talk, I don't talk about myself all that often. When I'm at these tables, if someone doesn't know who I am, I'll be like, what do you do for a living? I'm like, you're at a poker table. You got a thousand bucks on the table. You must have a good job. And a lot of engineers, seriously, a lot of engineers make good money engineering.

Amy Dangerfield (81:57)

It would be interesting to do, like a man on the street thing and go out and just talk to as many people as possible and find out how politically knowledgeable they are. That's actually something that I may do to kind of test.

Tim Pool (82:06)

That's not the question. That's not the question of initiation.

Ian Crossland (82:09)

Right. That's what I'm thinking now.

Tim Pool (82:10)

The question is, are you initiation is are you on a side in the culture war? Do you have a, do you have a moral worldview here? I would, I would argue most people have no idea what's going on. That's why they watch shows like this, to get a glimpse of what's going on. Whereas I read the news 24 7. So my counter to you, Ian, is yes, we're all in bubbles. I accept that. But what you're talking about, political bubbles, you can go to my Twitter account, look at who I follow. It's a variety of journalists, conservatives, and liberal personalities. And I talk to random people every weekend intentionally to see what regular people are doing and what the conversation is about. Almost always political.

Tate Brown (82:48)

If you look like, if you look last night on the timeline, like, everyone was talking about Tim Cassidy and Nick Fuentes, like, that was dominating the political zeitgeist. Guarantee you Google trends last night, look at Miami versus Indiana. Probably like 20 times as large as that. That was the biggest political story of that night.

Tim Pool (83:03)

But I will say this. So I was hanging out at Hard Rock for the WT WTP WPT Poker series last weekend. And it was during the, the Bears game when they, when they got tied up.

Ian Crossland (83:15)

Oh, snap.

Tim Pool (83:15)

Holy crap, dude. How many tables they have? Like 45. So it's, it's like 500, maybe a thousand people are in this room. And when they tied the score, whole rooms scream at the top of their lungs. Yes, they're all searching sports. And then at any table, everyone's discussing something related to what's going on in politics. And then someone, sometimes a dealer will be like, guys, no politics, please. It happens all the time. And then we'll. And then, I swear to God, we were talking about something not even political. It was like I was talking about podcasts. Someone asked me about the podcast and the marketing, and then I said something like, there's different advertisers depending on, like, political leanings and things like that. But usually you'll go with. And the dealer goes, sir, no politics. And I was like, I did not say anything political. And they were like, you can't even get close to it.

Amy Dangerfield (83:58)

But interesting.

Tim Pool (83:59)

It happens all the time, no matter what. Almost every. Every table conversation, someone's gonna be talking about how their job's being impacted. I think the reality is that there was a time when most people didn't pay attention, when sports was the only thing that mattered. But politics became pop culture.

Amy Dangerfield (84:15)

Obama made it really index on a lot of these issues. Now it's undeniable because it's happening on people's front lawns like it's happening in their streets. But that also begs the question, is it more in, like, cities like, you know, Florida or New York or Washington? What about the more remote areas and things like this that constitutes a large portion of population? I'd be curious if they have strong political leanings and investments as well.

Tate Brown (84:39)

Yeah, people won't want to hear it, but it's like a political. At least. It's like, as far as people keep up with politics is very stratified by class. Again, people don't want to hear that because it cuts against, like, what a lot of the rhetoric is, especially in the populace. Right. But it's true. Like, when I think about my upbringing, suburban Memphis, very traditional sort of normal upbringing. I have, like, maybe three or four friends will text me, like, and I group chats with 30, 40 people, like, three or four of them that are, like, interested in politics or texting me stuff or, like, this is funny. Da, da, da, da. Compared to, like, when I lived in Manhattan, every single person that I know from my time in Manhattan, liberal or conservative, is, like, constantly texting me different things or arguing, trying to argue with me, and then get blocked pretty quickly. But. But, like, it's true. I think, to a degree, like, like, the yuppie class, so to speak, or whoever sort of supplanted them is, like, the most politically involved.

Tim Pool (85:22)

We gotta grab one more segment before we go to Our chats and rants. And this one is the Most important from livescience.com or is it live science? I really don't know. Live. Live. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna call it. I don't know. Live science is telling you to do something. Live science.

Ian Crossland (85:37)

It is a way of life.

Tim Pool (85:38)

Earth hit by biggest solar radiation storm in 23 years, triggering northern lights as far as Southern California. Well, heavens me, I asked our resident space weatherman on Twitter when he mentioned this, I said, how many aurora events have we had then and in the past year? And he's like, this would be, I think our third. Third or fourth, I can't remember. What? No, maybe said five, I'm not sure. In this solar cycle we've had 20. In the previous solar cycle it was two or three. This is unprecedented as far as I can tell. He tweets. This is. This is Ben Davidson tweeting. Disaster cycle. The northern lights were seen in Florida again last night. This isn't just a light show, it's a warning. The pole shift, great solar blast and cyclical disaster of Earth culminates in the next 25 years. Our film releases in one week. Well, I don't know much about nothing, but I can tell you this. Space.com today Northern lights may be visible in 10 states tonight as Earth's magnetic field rings like a bell after CME impact. This is insane that it keeps happening.

Amy Dangerfield (86:51)

They're gonna use.

Tim Pool (86:51)

In your lifetime. How many times have you seen the aurora in. In. In. In.

Amy Dangerfield (86:56)

Never once.

Tim Pool (86:57)

Well, it's happened in the United States like four times now in the past year.

Tate Brown (87:02)

Yeah, but sometimes they fake you out or they're like, oh, you can see it snipe. You gotta use a camera to see it. I'm like, this would a rip off.

Ian Crossland (87:07)

Yes.

Tim Pool (87:07)

I mean sure, but these were legit and people were posting photos from Florida and Texas. Yeah, I lived in the pink sky.

Phil Avanti (87:12)

You know, I've lived in New England most of my life and I never saw the aurora. Whether I be in New Hampshire where there's not a significant amount of light pollution, but there is a lot of mountains. Or in Massachusetts.

Tate Brown (87:23)

I have an off the wall theory. I think it's because all of these iPhone cases now have this like magnet on. I think we're like all because we're producing so many magnets and you could probably speak. There might be something to the production of magnets is like really screwing with those.

Amy Dangerfield (87:35)

They're going to use this as justification to turn off the silver markets like the electric.

Ian Crossland (87:40)

We need to shut down the electrical grid to protect the planet.

Tim Pool (87:43)

Like, is that why silver is at like $8,000?

Amy Dangerfield (87:46)

Dude, silver is skyrocketing.

Tim Pool (87:48)

94 bucks.

Amy Dangerfield (87:49)

I called this actually way back in, I think June on her take podcast when a lot of the big banks were flooding the market with fake sell orders, like a ridiculous amount of fake sell orders to try to manipulate the price because a lot of banksters, a lot of banksters are over leveraged in these short positions and we've reached a point now where people are demanding the actual physical asset. That's one of the reasons trying to stop exporting it. And now real world price of silver and the paper market have officially decoupled. And it's crazy. The market is doing things that we've never seen before in our lifetime. And it's 100.

Tim Pool (88:30)

Silver is apocalyptic.

Ian Crossland (88:31)

Yeah, I'm anticipating 100.

Tim Pool (88:33)

Something, something is happening.

Amy Dangerfield (88:34)

Oh no, I completely agree. I said it would double. It's tripled.

Phil Avanti (88:38)

Gold's at 48 or 4,4000 and everything else is plummeting.

Amy Dangerfield (88:43)

It's like people want to hold something real and tangible because they perceive everything.

Tim Pool (88:47)

As fake and gay sort of. But this is with the price of silver going up. There's a, there's a variety of factors. One could be AI demand. It's, it's, it's, it's useful for computers. To put it simply, it's a conductor. It's one of the best. I think it actually is the best. So that's. They want to buy it up for that reason. However, it's also historically just been a standard hedge. People buy it to store value. Well, particularly with inflation, the printing of money. Otherwise you didn't need to because silver was money. So the issue now is the price skyrocketing. I believe is at least somewhat indicative of people in the know are trying to get their hands on precious metals because the US dollar is about to go belly up.

Amy Dangerfield (89:31)

Yeah, there's a squeeze. It's also the squeeze. That's what they call it in like the financial market terms. It's a silver squeeze where banksters are trying, they're trying to get out of their sell orders and a lot of them probably already hit margin to be honest. Like a lot of banks.

Tim Pool (89:44)

What does that mean?

Amy Dangerfield (89:45)

They, the. There is no way for them to basically recoup their losses there. There's only so far you can go down in a trade before you get margin called and you get taken out of the market.

Tim Pool (89:55)

But what is that? What does that mean? People would understand.

Amy Dangerfield (89:57)

They were hoping that what is like.

Tim Pool (89:59)

But hold on. Sorry to interrupt. A lot of people are going to say, I don't know what margin means. I don't know. Margin call is right. I don't understand what you're saying.

Amy Dangerfield (90:04)

So these banksters, they're in short positions, which means they have huge bets that the price of silver is going to go down. And so what they're trying to do is flood the market with. With, with these fake sell orders. I equivocated to like to trick the.

Tim Pool (90:18)

Price to go down.

Amy Dangerfield (90:19)

Yes, exactly. And people are calling. It's kind of similar to GameStop but on a way bigger scale where everyday people are saying, no, we know exactly what you're doing. And on account of that we are going to demand the actual metal because there isn't enough of it in actual supply.

Tim Pool (90:36)

Yeah, but silver isn't memeing.

Amy Dangerfield (90:39)

It kind of is actually like now.

Tim Pool (90:41)

Only after it reached $85 that people say, I better buy some before they.

Amy Dangerfield (90:45)

Were honestly doing it. When I made the call back in June, like there is a big kind of like underground like Reddit movement. It's a lot bigger than what people think if they don't know to look into it.

Tate Brown (90:53)

Why did these institutional buyers short silver in the first place?

Amy Dangerfield (90:56)

Why they shorted it initially, when I started looking into what was going on, that was already happening well in advance. So I'm not exactly sure why they did because that would just be like.

Tate Brown (91:06)

Such a bizarre move.

Amy Dangerfield (91:07)

Yeah, well, there's a lot of.

Tate Brown (91:09)

They're sensing instability.

Phil Avanti (91:10)

Well, there's lot of people that for a long time silver kind of has been low compared to gold. And there's a lot of people that were saying, look, the market's being manipulated. The value of silver is much higher than the actual dollar cost because it was hovering between 20 and 30 bucks for almost 10 years.

Tate Brown (91:26)

Yeah, well, you said this occurred in June.

Amy Dangerfield (91:29)

In June, yeah.

Tate Brown (91:30)

So, I mean it could have been a reaction to the tariffs potentially. I mean, that's when the hike in.

Ian Crossland (91:35)

Silver, it's all the platinum metals. I can't, I'm looking up ruthenium right now, but you look up rhodium, platinum, palladium.

Tim Pool (91:41)

Yeah, but silver, like 5x silver is.

Ian Crossland (91:43)

The one that's gone up the most. Some of these other ones are up 40% or 50% or 200%.

Tim Pool (91:48)

That's not, that's, that's not a meme that it's happening even to gold. Something's happening to the dollar.

Amy Dangerfield (91:53)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (91:54)

And I think, listen, Rich, Rich people know before you. Trust me, they know before you. You. You think there's going to be some wealthy. You know what? Ignore rich. It's connected people, leaders of industry. So somebody who's involved in manufacturing or big business, they know somebody in government who says the US Dollar is cooked, it's going to collapse. US Buying power is gone. And so what do they do? They run and they go and they buy up a bunch of precious metals, and then it causes a spike in the market. The people who know buy it up first when it's still floating around 30 bucks. Then it gets to 50, 60, and people think there's a run on silver, so they buy a bunch. Now it's at 95.

Amy Dangerfield (92:33)

There's no stopping it, honestly.

Tim Pool (92:34)

But my point is, you can call it the wisdom of the crowd. Silver spiking says something very bad about our economy. Or you can call it a conspiracy. And I think it's fair to say maybe a little bit of both. But people in the know buying silver are basically screaming in your face, the end is nigh.

Amy Dangerfield (92:51)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (92:51)

Because maybe World War 3.

Amy Dangerfield (92:53)

I agree. I agree with you entirely.

Tim Pool (92:54)

I mean, look, if a World War 3 actually broke out, and I don't mean some stupid. Is this world. No, I mean, like literally, Russia launches a missile strike on Poland to stop this. Like, you know, NATO troops coming in, or Trump makes a move on Greenland. Then Russia reacts instantly and something happens. Or Venezuela triggers a move on Taiwan. The moment that happens and you get an American politician saying, we have. We now have war on every front in the world. This is World War iii. The US Dollar goes, Yep. Silver goes.

Ian Crossland (93:27)

I wonder there might be.

Tim Pool (93:29)

Government's buying up the precious metals. That's what I think it is. Because they know the Dow is going to tank in a time of war and they want to hold something of value that they can then sell for labor.

Amy Dangerfield (93:37)

Right. Something actually tangible. Because again, everything's fake and gay.

Ian Crossland (93:41)

That's my guess, because how it just. That's my guess because where did that money come from? If that. That indicates that the value of all those metals are. Now some. That money must have appeared. I mean, it could have come out.

Phil Avanti (93:49)

Of the value of those of those commodities or commodities. So the value of those commodities, like, is not reflective of how. Or is reflective of how many dollars there are. A big part of the cost here or because of the price increase is because of all the dollars they printed.

Ian Crossland (94:05)

This is rhodium went from 5,000 to 10,000 this last year. Yeah.

Phil Avanti (94:09)

I mean, look at how many Dollars.

Tim Pool (94:11)

They printed.

Phil Avanti (94:11)

They printed, they printed 80% of the dollars that exist in the past five years.

Ian Crossland (94:15)

Look at the way rhodium's gone up. This is so obviously a collusion. It goes up, then it stabilizes, then it goes up, then it's, it's. People are doing this and waiting and then they're doing it and waiting and.

Phil Avanti (94:26)

They do it again in, in. Look at the dates though because this.

Ian Crossland (94:29)

Is one year, this is one.

Tim Pool (94:30)

Dates of the spikes correlate with major geopolitical events and policy issues that could be. Yeah, the, there's another, there's another play here and that's of course AI And I think one of the issues that these data centers are outright saying guys, we could increase our, our, our productivity, you know, 3x if we were using silver instead of copper. And so they're like buy it. Yeah, the price is meaningless to the like listen there of. Let me tell you how horrifying things are. Viral videos across TikTok and Instagram where a guy is. So it's a vertical video and there's a small window of a guy and he's talking and then there's some busty young woman talking in the exact same video. It's like it's AI replacement. And he's, he'll be saying guys, do you want to learn how to make six figures with an AI brain slope? You know, what do they call them? Like E Girl. And the girl is moving and saying it like she's the guy and then the voice slowly turns into the female voice which like I can teach you how to make things just like this. And then they sell courses on this stuff. Then all these AI slot vision popping up. We talked about it last year, two years ago, how there's Instagram thoughts that are just AI generated and they were weird looking but now they're getting better and better. And there's also the AI generated news videos which are making 150k per month. There's a video I saw where it was this guy talking about how he makes, he hasn't. He makes animal videos on Sora and it's just like make a video of a dog saving a baby from a snake and then he ups to YouTube. Boom. 500000 views. And then he's like AI brain slot. He's like you do 50 of them a day and you're making six figures. This is what's dominating everything. That's the AI we have now, now internally with ChatGPT and Gemini. These, these have AIs where they're doing much more advanced money making schemes. Go on, go on any one of these chats, I've done it and say, based on current trends and news analysis, which publicly available stock do you believe will go up and it'll be like, here's a list of top 10 stocks based on aggregation which are expected to rise. And then you buy them and you buy, hey, don't take it from me, that's AI telling you what to do, not me, I'm not giving any advice. Now imagine you own the back end. All you have to do is say go on the Internet and trade stocks until I have $20 billion and it goes done and then you could probably generate 20 billion in a few months.

Ian Crossland (96:51)

Yeah, it's kind of like the way you have politicians not able to buy and trade stocks. You might want to have AI corporations not able to buy and trade.

Tim Pool (96:57)

There was a move being done in crypto called, I think it was crypto arbitrage, it was called, where basically computers could track a sell or buy order faster than a human could. And as soon as the human put the order in, the computer would execute a sale to get a fee and then do and then intercept the transaction. So it would take percentages of the sales and generate revenue for nothing. There are stories of people who are doing Ethereum arbitrage making millions of dollars per month and no one noticed because all they were doing was basically saying if someone puts in an order, we're to do a quick buy and sell. Because the way it works is you'll say like I'm willing to bid up to three grand for an Ethereum and then the price could fluctuate a little bit. The AI, and this is rudimentary machine like this is well before ChatGPT would see the order come in and then execute a trade really quickly. To get a thin market they'll use.

Amy Dangerfield (97:43)

Multiple networks like a hedge, like a buy and sell order simultaneously lose either way.

Ian Crossland (97:50)

Basically you could end up on multiple networks.

Tim Pool (97:51)

Somebody said I'd like to buy Ethereum and I'm willing to pay 3,000 for it. The AI sees the order go in and quickly acquires the Ethereum and sells it to the person. It intercepts the order and executes it faster so that it gets, I'm interesting. You gotta, you gotta look at how it works because I'm not exactly sure that the general idea was in stocks as well. If a computer can execute trades faster than you and it can see you doing in a millisecond, then when you say I'm willing to buy at 3,000 and the price is fluctuating. It, it attacks the fluctuation to do a quick trade so that it can monetize your transaction. Something that affects and I'm probably butchering the explanation but the gist of it was basically intercepting crypto exchange transactions to generate tiny profits on their end. But it's a machine doing tens of thousands per hour. So the person's making millions of dollars a year doing nothing, turning a program on, pressing enter and walking away.

Amy Dangerfield (98:48)

That's insane.

Tim Pool (98:49)

Now imagine what Google is doing. They don't care about money. It's completely meaningless to them. They're saying they go to the AI and they say go on the market and generate $20 billion and it goes done when they, when they, they've released this data, when they put out the experiment where they said they put chat GPT online, it immediately started trying to make money manipulating stocks and things like this. Not manipulated but buying and trading stocks. And it can see the trades faster than you. So it knows exactly what's going to happen. It can see the orders come in so quick. It knows when to get in, when to get out like a. So my point is they're generating billions of dollars they don't care about and they're probably saying just buy it. This, I think I heard of it.

Amy Dangerfield (99:25)

It's like a sandwich bot I think is what it was called.

Tim Pool (99:28)

This has been how stock market trading has been for a long time now. It's just AI executing faster than a human can. You can't beat them.

Amy Dangerfield (99:35)

It's crazy.

Tim Pool (99:35)

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Amy Dangerfield (101:50)

It's not even his real name. It was a stage name.

Tim Pool (101:53)

Yeah, but.

Amy Dangerfield (101:53)

So no, Dangerfield's my real last name. That's not Rodney's real.

Tim Pool (101:57)

Do you know what Olivia Wilde's real name is?

Amy Dangerfield (101:59)

No.

Tim Pool (101:59)

Do you know.

Phil Avanti (102:00)

Do not.

Ian Crossland (102:01)

I don't know who that is.

Tim Pool (102:02)

Tate. No. Does someone want to look? Olivia Wilde. The actress? Yeah. You know who she is?

Amy Dangerfield (102:06)

No, I know who she is. Yeah, of course I don't know her name.

Tim Pool (102:08)

Wants to. You want to look up her wiki and then say her real name.

Ian Crossland (102:11)

I want to say it out loud.

Tim Pool (102:12)

You do?

Tate Brown (102:12)

You should.

Ian Crossland (102:13)

It's offensive.

Tim Pool (102:14)

What do you. What do you mean?

Phil Avanti (102:15)

Olivia Wilde with an e. Olivia Jane Cockburn.

Ian Crossland (102:20)

It's Cockburn.

Amy Dangerfield (102:21)

No.

Ian Crossland (102:24)

Shout out Olivia.

Amy Dangerfield (102:25)

Sometimes stage names are necessary. Okay, I get it.

Ian Crossland (102:28)

Jane.

Tate Brown (102:30)

What a Name.

Phil Avanti (102:30)

Yeah, she wasn't, she wasn't trying to be an adult.

Tate Brown (102:34)

No.

Amy Dangerfield (102:34)

Yeah, Fair. Fair enough. No burn.

Tim Pool (102:36)

All right. Culture Americano says, I watch every episode of Tim Cast. I was incredibly happy to see Nicholas on the show yesterday. I think he is best on a panel rather than solo. He is hilarious in a panel setting. Yeah, it's, it's funny because, like I was saying, I, I, I, I hide nothing when, when we had trouble, it was hard to bring him on the show in the past because of the censorship. And so I had said there needs to be, like, a news thing that happens with them. We can bring him on. Makes it harder for them to just censor and delete the episode like they did with Alex Jones. I don't think he, he said something like, he didn't. He, I don't know. He criticized that comment order, but it's true. And now that they've eased up and there's no problem, we have him on. The other thing is, everybody who's had him on has struggle sessioned him, and when Tucker didn't, they're like, tucker, why did you struggle session him? And I'm like, that's stupid. I don't, I don't know. The point is a news commentary show, and he's a news commentary guy, and he's got some bad opinions. But we've had communists on the show, too. So it's like if, if, you know, when, when Nick made comments about Jewish people, I pushed back a little bit. I questioned and I said, well, your answer is your answer. I guess, like, I made my point.

Phil Avanti (103:39)

I was.

Tim Pool (103:39)

But it wasn't more like, real quick with the communists, they get antagonistic on matters of fact. Fact, not opinion. Nick has got opinions I disagree with for the most part. I also think a lot of his views are taken out of context. Like, well, I, and we knew this. He explains that he's very offensive and he offends everybody, and we get it, and fine, but I don't, I don't live in this struggle session reality. Look, if you guys don't like the guy, that was always allowed. But we've had way worse people on this show.

Amy Dangerfield (104:05)

He's also comedic. Like, if you watch his show, he is truly hilarious. And so he does say a lot of things that are hyperbolic. He makes a lot of jokes. He is very edgy. But if you actually watch his show for any extended period of time, you extract a lot of value from it.

Ian Crossland (104:20)

In my humble, he knows a lot, and he likes teaching.

Amy Dangerfield (104:23)

He's very Knowledgeable.

Ian Crossland (104:24)

My favorite thing about him is. Well, one of my favorite things. He really likes to listen. Like, if there's. That's why he was doing so well. It does well in group settings. And, like, if someone cuts him off, he'll just stop and listen to what they're saying and, like, go in that direction.

Tim Pool (104:36)

And he's still.

Ian Crossland (104:36)

His brain's agile enough to just kind of.

Amy Dangerfield (104:38)

This is the one on one interviews where I feel like people are over the one on one interviews because a lot of them don't get to the crux of the issue. So many of them are like, you get to know you. Who are you? What's your backstory? We've heard it all before. Anyone who's tuned into Nick, we know it already. Like, can we get to the crux of the issues? Which he gets to do in a panel setting.

Tim Pool (104:55)

I mean, here's the other thing, too. Like, he. We asked him why he, like, he said Hitler was cool. And he's like, he's. He said he thought he was. And it's like, so talent. It's bad.

Phil Avanti (105:03)

I don't.

Tim Pool (105:03)

I like. Do you not engage with people with bad opinions ever? I say, okay, that's dumb. I guess.

Ian Crossland (105:09)

I like it.

Tim Pool (105:10)

Remember communists? They're stupid too. And Stalin. Stalin was evil and communism is evil. And we'll tell them to their faces.

Phil Avanti (105:15)

The people that, you know, really go hard against, against Nick and do the struggle session and stuff. It's not really about Nick. It's about them letting the world know that they're a good person. Just like when we had straight. Yeah, when we had straighter 8 on the whole point of her debating, the whole strategy she had was, I want you to say something where I can go ahead and say, you're a bad person and I'm a good person. And that's the same. Same exact thing that people would do.

Tim Pool (105:42)

What doesn't work is when she's on and she's like, what about Venezuela? And I'm like, I don't think we should have done it. She's like, you don't.

Phil Avanti (105:47)

Yeah.

Tim Pool (105:48)

I'm like, you think you're going on this, like, far right conservative, everything's MAGA show. Trump does no wrong. And then we're like, no, Trump does a lot of things wrong. And then they're like, oh, but I'm just here to pretend like you're my enemy. And then they get into this weird problem where they have to disagree with whatever you say in order to. Because it's tribal. But you're saying things they also have to agree with. I think there were a few liberals that we invited on the show that agreed to and then at the last minute disagreements said no. And I think the reason was they would be forced to reconcile with their agreement on many conservative issues. And that's one of the reasons they avoid these shows because they're, they're issues of fact and truth that are fairly obvious that they're going to end up agreeing on. But more importantly, there's going to be some conservative Trump supporter who's going to say something like, oh, I don't think we should give money to Israel. And they're going to agree and then they're going to have to be explain to the liberals why they agreed with someone who was far right. Yeah, because it's really just tribal.

Amy Dangerfield (106:41)

I think conservatives have been good at that, especially during this administration is being critical of the bad decisions of our party versus, you know, liberals. Like you said, they're very tribalistic and they equate being wrong with death, basically. And so they refuse to concede in any way, even when it's completely logical. I mean, you do get like the government bootlick is on the right who anytime you say something about Trump, they get really mad at you. But, you know, yeah, it's always going to happen.

Tim Pool (107:06)

Let's grab some more. We got Jacob Paul. He says, did you guys see the new bill passing through the Virginia legislature? It reduces minimum sentences for CP Grape. Let's just call it what it is. Child porn, rape and assault of officers and federal officers. Crazy Christian Hines posted about it. Indeed. That was part of what Greg Price was talking about. You know, I, I am concerned about minimum sentence requirements in general. I do think there are certain, like rape and child abuse. I'm totally fine with being like, it's life. You're lucky if it's life and not death.

Amy Dangerfield (107:44)

Should be the wood chipper.

Tim Pool (107:48)

The people convicted of this. Well, I oppose the death penalty for a variety of reasons, but I certainly understand the sentiment around people who abuse kids. I, I, I think I got a better option for, for in minimum absolute sentencing, any offense against children. Sexual abuse is life in prison. And, and if you guys want to argue for death penalty, have that argument. I'm saying the minimum is life. Yeah, we absolutely, you are gone from society. Thank you. Goodbye.

Amy Dangerfield (108:13)

Well, there's no cure for.

Tim Pool (108:15)

Well, I propose to the island. I propose to the island. Yeah, the island is we send you to an island Australia. Have fun.

Ian Crossland (108:21)

She's a result of that experiment.

Tim Pool (108:24)

We could use Australia. The US should send all our convicts to Australia again.

Amy Dangerfield (108:29)

They went from European convicts to American convicts.

Phil Avanti (108:32)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (108:32)

What do you think?

Amy Dangerfield (108:32)

Australia is going to be a really great place. Wow.

Tate Brown (108:35)

Yeah. What do you think we're wanting Greenland for? Just like, oh, it's strategically important. It's all window dressing. We want to make a pedophile island.

Tim Pool (108:42)

And, And. But it's going to be amazing. A pedophile island.

Tate Brown (108:45)

We already had one. Didn't go so well.

Tim Pool (108:47)

And it's going to be like the Truman show where we film and they have to. They have to fight. The only thing they can eat is like whales.

Tate Brown (108:53)

Yeah. They're just like on dog sleds going around. It's just crazy.

Phil Avanti (108:56)

All the only thing that we do is we send pedophiles and polar bears.

Tim Pool (109:00)

Right. And then just let you know it's only pedophiles and polar bears. Here we go. James Smith. Politics says civil war is most likely to happen. Not directly from the deportations, but from the loss of electoral votes, House seats in blue states. Dems are already expected to lose 10 to 13 seats in the 2030 census. It won't matter if we lose in the midterms and then they erase everything Trump is doing and open the border again.

Tate Brown (109:26)

Yeah, Literally.

Tim Pool (109:27)

Just because I'm free. Says if Republicans do nothing, then. It was nice hearing your opinions, Tim, because the Democrats will put you in prison for spreading foreign propaganda. At least you. At least you will Won't. At least you will. Won't. I think you meant to say, at least you won't be alone in there. That's the joke. The joke is that we're all gonna be breaking rocks together, so at least I'll have good company.

Tate Brown (109:48)

I've been practicing banging out license plates. I'm getting pretty good.

Ian Crossland (109:52)

So you have laser precision.

Tate Brown (109:54)

Yeah, I think the libtard Gestapo will be happy with my license plate performance.

Ian Crossland (109:58)

It feels like the same impotence of the government in 2017 with no real goal of, like, how are you gonna fix the world, guys? Now that you have control of the most powerful government on Earth, what are you gonna do? Crickets 2020 comes by. We're like, we want our guy back in power. He comes back. What's the out? What's the plan? They're like, we want to undo some damage with ice. Like, okay, fine, assume that's done. What's the plan? What's the goal?

Tate Brown (110:22)

Well, I mean, that is. I mean, that is the goal because, like, with mass immigration continuing, that's how you develop the breathing Room to then apply any other policy. Like, everything is downstream from immigration in the West.

Ian Crossland (110:33)

In 2017, there was no downstream and it was the same lackluster inaction. Nothing was getting solved. Like, problems were exacerbating.

Tate Brown (110:41)

I think the executive has been much more effective than the first term. Again, there's, like, a lot to be lacking. That's pretty much what we've been discussing these last few weeks. But, like, I do think there's a big difference between Trump 1 and Trump 2.

Phil Avanti (110:52)

Yeah.

Tate Brown (110:53)

Again, is it, like, great? Not necessarily. There's. Again, there's a lot of. A lot of complaints, but I think the ball is moving down the field and it's just a matter of now we're going to need to start seeing some 20 yard gains.

Phil Avanti (111:03)

It's worth pointing out that, like, the economy was doing really, really, really well under Trump won as well. Like, and that's a big deal for a lot of people.

Tim Pool (111:09)

We'll grab some more. We got Mito says Tim. The universe is ancient, the sun a couple billion years old. It's not unprecedented. It's a cycle. You've lived less than 40 years, not even a blink of an eye in the cosmic history. Ah, so pedantic. I'm talking about American history. I'm talking about our lifetimes. I'm not talking about 5 billion years ago or 40 million years ago. And isn't it something like the stegosaurus is closer to us than the Tyrannosaurus in time frame or something like that? Yeah, yeah. They were tens of millions of years apart. The point is, in our lifetimes, we've never experienced this kind of solar activity, which is indicative of a cycle which does happen every several hundred thousand years. We recognize that. It's just that in our lifetimes, it's happening. Ron Paul meme.

Tate Brown (111:53)

Literally. This is like childlike thinking. Like, you know when you're in school and you first learn about, like, the inevitable heat death of the universe in, like, 200 billion years. And that, like, actually stressed you out, but, oh, my gosh, it's like, okay, dude, you know.

Tim Pool (112:05)

All right, let's.

Ian Crossland (112:07)

Did you ever cry New Year's Eve because the year was ending?

Tate Brown (112:10)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (112:10)

Yeah, me too.

Tate Brown (112:11)

Yeah, that's why I was like, eight. Yeah. I'm upset about the many daylight savings time as well because, like, I actually kind of like it. It breaks up the year.

Tim Pool (112:19)

I love.

Tate Brown (112:20)

I love setting my clock.

Tim Pool (112:21)

Silas says thoughts on Amelia from Pathways. What's that, dude?

Tate Brown (112:24)

I keep getting people tweeting at me and Connor to cover this. I'M going to have the. I'm going to have to like, tap.

Phil Avanti (112:29)

She's AI, isn't she?

Tim Pool (112:31)

Is that what it is?

Phil Avanti (112:32)

I don't know.

Tim Pool (112:32)

I saw some video where she was like, talking to King Arthur or something. I don't. I don't know. Let's go. He's on Twitter and she was complaining about Muslims.

Ian Crossland (112:40)

UK government funded educational visual novel.

Tim Pool (112:43)

Oh, and people are putting her in anti Muslim things.

Phil Avanti (112:47)

Okay, that's it.

Tim Pool (112:48)

Nah, see? All right, all right, let's. Let's grab a couple more here while we're. While we're all here and having a good time. So true. Having a good time. 20 Something Drifter says I'm a former Minnesota state government employee. Well, I didn't see fraud there. I'm not surprised. It's rampant. Easily the most disjointed and disorganized place. The whole damn thing needs investigation. I think the feds should take it over. It's not a joke.

Ian Crossland (113:13)

What, Minnesota?

Tate Brown (113:14)

Yeah.

Ian Crossland (113:14)

They got to ask for it.

Tate Brown (113:15)

It's like they flooded the state with people from fraud land and they commit fraud.

Tim Pool (113:19)

Fraud. All right. Joel Ketchum says per Timcast tradition, I'm currently at the hospital with my third kid, first daughter Gemma Bay Mary Ketchum.

Ian Crossland (113:29)

All right, Nice one.

Tate Brown (113:30)

Let's go. Welcome to the world, patriot. A lot of work to do. Just lock in as soon as you can. Start walking and talking.

Phil Avanti (113:36)

Figure out gravity.

Tim Pool (113:37)

Neglectful sauce. Says Tim to Nick. What if we magically ethnically cleansed USA so that they were Indian but still believed in the same culture? What a wild take. Think hard. Which is literally not what I said. I asked him if everyone in this country magically transformed into Indians and they held all their same views and they were Christians and they loved the founding fathers and the Freedom First Amendment, is that a bad country? And I. I think Nick was trying to avoid getting a bit aggressive on the issue of race and genetics, so he left it as he thinks a white country is better. My. My interpretation of what he was saying is that he believes that there is something intrinsic to the genetics of white people that results in certain behaviors and cultural norms that doesn't exist in other racial groups.

Amy Dangerfield (114:16)

Do you disagree with that?

Tim Pool (114:18)

I. 50. 50, I think. And. And maybe he just did articulate it, but when you look at certain cultures, there's going to be some obvious things that guarantee this to be true. Shorter people have shorter doorways. You know what I mean? Meaning if you replaced every American with Thai people, they're on average, you know, 34 inches shorter. Then they're going to construct homes in different ways. There'll be different styles of architecture based on their, their bodies. If you Scandinavians, they're all very tall, you're going to get a completely different country. That's the obvious thing. The things that aren't so obvious is how does it manifest in terms of behaviors and social cohesion. But I do think it's fair to say that if you look at Japan, there is, I'll put it simply, I think it's nature and nurture are 50, 50. I think people are largely driven by their development in the world that is around them. That's why you'll meet someone who's Asian but was born in America and they have a North American accent. They don't have a Chinese accent because nature is more important. That being said, I think genetics plays a role in other ways that is less likely to express itself culturally. But can a manifest, can manifest in less perceivable ways.

Ian Crossland (115:36)

I suppose when it comes to people that argue about don't race mix, I don't agree with that because I think a lot about the, the value of certain racial genetic mixes that might happen in the future that we have yet to see. And I do know that there's like a strengthening of the genome when you introduce multitudes of genetics.

Tim Pool (115:52)

It's called hybrid vigor.

Ian Crossland (115:53)

Hybrid vigor. It selects for the strongest and then passes those on. I highly, I highly, highly recommend.

Tim Pool (115:59)

Well, it's not necessarily against. It's, it's, it's, it's volatility.

Ian Crossland (116:02)

Highly recommend.

Tim Pool (116:03)

Oh, it's volatility.

Ian Crossland (116:04)

Tell me more.

Tim Pool (116:05)

It could go either way. Yeah, you could get really bad or really good. But the thing is the really bad don't survive and the really good does. So with hybrid vigor, you're, you're, you're, you're mixing it up and then you might get. Let's just keep it away from humans for the sake of, you know, tantalizing. Well, I'm just keeping it hypothetical. Like you have, you know, a lemming from, you know, Mexico and a lemming from, you know, Russia. When they breed, they could have one retard baby and one super strong, super intelligent baby. Well, natural selection. The retard one doesn't survive and have babies. The strong one does. And so you get hybrid vigorous. Is it.

Ian Crossland (116:40)

And maybe you don't know the answer to this, but is it more likely that people have cross genetics, like different genetics will have a retarded child.

Tim Pool (116:48)

So if the closer you are the high that like Incest. You have a high rate of. I. I forgot exactly what the reason was. I read a long time ago about. I think the rudimentary way to explain it is there are in your genetics things that are way too similar. Which cause is a.

Ian Crossland (117:07)

A competition?

Tim Pool (117:08)

No, no, no, no. It's the expression of genes duplicate or something like that. That's what causes the inbrain. Like your nose gets too big, your jaw falls off because the genetic will control for no size gets doubled up and then. And then you're like, type. What would. No. What was the family?

Phil Avanti (117:24)

The.

Tim Pool (117:24)

The European royalty? Habsburgs. I thought it was.

Tate Brown (117:29)

Well, that's why Jimmy Carr had a bit where he's like, you have. You should think the Catholic Church. I'm a Protestant. You should be thanking the Catholic church for chins. Because, like in the 12th century they banned incest. They said they'd be like a six cousin or higher to be able to get married because they were trying to break up the tribal clan nature of Europe. And so when they did that, it saved everyone's chin. So the Catholic church was engaged in looks maxing all.

Tim Pool (117:49)

Everybody in Iceland are cousins.

Amy Dangerfield (117:51)

Did you guys see in the UK they were trying to put out propaganda actually encouraging cousins to marry.

Tate Brown (117:56)

Yeah. And they're like gaslighting people. Like, it's like white people do. And I'm like, I think we. I think Gavin McGinnis like laid this out from the Joe Rogan show.

Tim Pool (118:03)

Iceland, because it doesn't have a lot of to and from. And it's been settled by one group of people. They're mostly related. And there's an app you can download to make sure you're not cousins.

Tate Brown (118:14)

Oh, God, yeah. I need that.

Tim Pool (118:17)

You know what they need? Iceland needs an influx of fresh jeans.

Ian Crossland (118:20)

That's what I've been thinking. Ian is Iceland.

Phil Avanti (118:23)

Next.

Tim Pool (118:23)

You're a strapping young man.

Ian Crossland (118:24)

You should buy Iceland.

Tim Pool (118:26)

Buy.

Ian Crossland (118:27)

Buy it from the Icelanders. Take it with economic prowess. No, I'm just kidding.

Tate Brown (118:33)

So true.

Ian Crossland (118:34)

Join us.

Tim Pool (118:35)

Polly Puree says the baby boom took place in the 1950s. The 1957 being the largest birth year in US history. Tim, baby boomers are 56 to 71. There was no baby boom at all in the 1940s. Okay. Baby boomer years.

Ian Crossland (118:49)

The boom happened right after.

Tim Pool (118:50)

Happened right. 46 to 64.

Ian Crossland (118:52)

Yeah. They got back from the war and they were like, I missed. Not take wasting another day.

Tim Pool (118:55)

The oldest baby boomers are now at life expectancy. I didn't make this up. I was reading the research on generations and what's called the mortality shelf or the mortality cliff, happens to every generation. When a generation reaches this age, the mortality rate of the generation skyrockets. So in the next several years, for the obvious reason of the oldest boomers are reaching 80 years old. TRUMP is. Is the. I think Trump was 46, right? Yep.

Tate Brown (119:18)

He's the oldest. He's the oldest.

Tim Pool (119:20)

Yeah. And he's. He's 79. How's he 79?

Phil Avanti (119:23)

79.

Tim Pool (119:23)

That's life expectancy. So what happens is boomers now are at 60 million because there's natural attrition. As time goes on, people die. And the next next five, 10 years, they expect it to fall down to, like, 20 million, like, rapid death. Because they're all going to be in their 80s.

Tate Brown (119:37)

Yeah. That's why in the United States, our fertility rate went negative in the 80s. But the population hasn't started declining until now, at least among Native Americans. So, you know, these things are delayed onset, so to speak.

Tim Pool (119:49)

Exploding tree risk.

Tate Brown (119:51)

Oh, yeah. This is happening in Minnesota. Yeah. These trees are exploding because it's getting so cold.

Phil Avanti (119:55)

Really?

Tim Pool (119:56)

They don't literally explode. They crack and pop. Yeah. As the frozen SAP expands and then breaks the. Wow.

Tate Brown (120:02)

That's apparently causes problems for, like, deer and stuff. It messes with their migration patterns because they hear, like, popping and stuff going off, and so they just, like, run around.

Tim Pool (120:09)

Are the deer retarded?

Tate Brown (120:10)

Yeah, it disrupts, like, deer populations.

Tim Pool (120:12)

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Amy Dangerfield (120:26)

Yeah. You guys can follow or subscribe to my YouTube channel. It's just my name, Amy Dangerfield. I'm also on X and Instagram.

Ian Crossland (120:32)

Follow me at iancrossland and check out Graphene Movie. If you haven't been there yet, there's a trailer up for the new Graphene Movie that I'm producing and starred in, as well as you can sign up for the mailing list at Graphene Movie. Follow me at Ian Crossland on X, YouTube, Instagram.

Tate Brown (120:48)

See you later X and Instagram at Realtate Brown and go on the Culture War Channel and Connor Tomlinson's channel to see last weekend's episodes of across the Pond. We went into, like, Zoomer nihilism broke down why that is occurring, and some of the sure economic factors, but also some of the social factors that are driving that. We brought in the great Nathan Halberstad. He brought in all the data and flushed it out for us. So. So go check that out. It's great.

Phil Avanti (121:11)

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Tim Pool (121:29)

We'll see all of you@rumble.com Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.