B (5:14)

Hey guys, thanks so much for having me. Tim, it's always great to be back here. I'm interested to figure out what we're going to talk about tonight.

A (5:21)

Who are you? What do you do?

B (5:22)

Terry Shilling, President of American Principles Project, where we fight every single day for the American family and our children. We've been mostly fighting against the transgender gender industry. We have a new documentary out about the fatherlessness Crisis, fathers wanted. FatherSwanted.org is the site to check it out. And yeah, it's really great. We tell a story about how fatherhood impacts you as an individual and makes you stronger as a man and also is good for society.

A (5:46)

Right on.

C (5:47)

Good evening, everybody.

D (5:48)

Oh my God.

C (5:49)

Brother.

A (5:50)

Gotta get that good.

C (5:51)

What are you, new? Just get in there.

A (5:52)

Yeah, what do you know?

C (5:52)

Let's get nice and close. Terry, I wanted to say that's awesome. I feel like people talk a lot about single mothers, but not about the fathers who make them single mothers. That aside, I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent. Thank you guys for tuning in. We have a very exciting episode for you tonight. Phil.

A (6:07)

Hello, everybody.

D (6:08)

My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist, a counter revolutionary and I guess a lot's the fng.

A (6:16)

Here's the story from the Daily Mail. Epstein jail guards used fake body to trick media waiting outside the prison while his real corpse was loaded into a van unnoticed. Files claim jail guards overseeing Epstein's. Epstein used a decoy body to mislead reporters gathered outside the prison after his death while his real body was secretly removed. According to an internal memo, a jail supervisor told FBI agents that staff at Manhattan's Metro Center Metropolitan Correctional center staged the ruse amid an intense media presence following Epstein's apparent suicide in 2019. The files alleged that boxes and sheets were arranged to resemble a human body and loaded into a white van marked as belonging to the office of the chief medical examiner, Prompting reporters to follow as it drove away. Unbeknownst to media, Epstein's actual body was instead placed into a black vehicle that left the facility unnoticed, allowing officers to transport the corpse privately. The alleged deception was carried out after an official warned guards on a large number of journalists gathered outside the jail and said he would arrive at the loading dock with a separate black vehicle to remove the body. The records also reveal investigators highlighted a handwritten note found inside Epstein's health, the time of his death, which was not treated as a suicide note. The note, which investigators said was difficult to read, appeared to list grievances about jail conditions, including complaints about food showers and bugs. Here's a question for you. Why did they put a fake body to like. I understand the idea was like, we want to trick reporters. Why trick reporters?

D (7:45)

I mean. Well, I mean, I guess just off the cuff. I mean, he's a high profile person there.

C (7:52)

I don't know.

D (7:52)

I mean, aside from the fact that he's high profile. Unless there was some kind of. Some kind. Something nefarious going on.

A (7:59)

Were they worried the paparazzi chasing the vehicle, resulting it crashing under in a tunnel which would kill the high profile individual? Perhaps.

D (8:06)

You know, it's happened before.

A (8:08)

Yeah. I gotta be honest, I don't see a reason to trick the reporters about the body coming out.

D (8:17)

Yeah.

A (8:17)

If. Did anything happen? No. That they. They put the fake body in a car and then the reporters followed and that was it.

C (8:25)

So what the worst part about this whole Epstein saga is there's so many legitimate criticisms to make of the investigation and the way all this was handled. I also believe there's some, like, missing footage from the time where it was.

D (8:39)

A minute and a half or something.

C (8:40)

He was able to potentially have killed himself in the jail. Right. Which obviously shouldn't have happened. There's this. That shouldn't have happened. He probably shouldn't have ever been let out or been given a sweetheart deal when he was convicted in Florida to begin with. Very strange. So there's just so many of these strange little inklings that I think give a lot of credence to conspiracy theories about this.

A (9:01)

Yeah.

D (9:02)

Considering his connections, I don't think it's that odd that he was given a special deal just because he knew so many people, so many people in power places. I don't Think it was good, obviously, like he shouldn't have gotten any kind of sweetheart deal. But it's not a surprise that someone with his, you know, his connections got someone to make a call. Or it wouldn't be a surprise if someone made a call and said, hey, take it easy on Epstein, etc.

C (9:27)

So just to play devil's advocate, and I wouldn't say I would do this or I don't think it's right to do this, but I think one of the things that maybe the hospital was trying to avoid is the media circus that this can produce. And then it would prevent doing business as usual. So the hospital wouldn't like to be flooded with a bunch of people from the media. And I mean, there's just a copa, I guess, but that could be the idea. And I've covered a lot of different things in federal buildings and different buildings that prefer not to be filmed and photographed and having the media circus surrounding them. Maybe this is just a bad cope for the whole situation.

A (9:57)

The reason why I'm going to go ahead and say that is incorrect is because we have images of them bringing Epstein's body into the hospital. Meaning the press was already there. So they didn't prevent any of that. The press was well aware. I mean, look, this, this is what's weird about the whole thing, is that we, we have photos of them bringing the body and everybody saw it immediately. The press was well aware of what was going on. There's, there's. I mean, look, okay, I can come up with a reason why they made a fake body. They're stupid. That's it. They're dumb people who thought that these people are very dumb. And they were like, we better do this. And it had no impact whatsoever. That being said, whatever the reason is, it means that we actually don't have proof a body was removed from the hospital. I mean, I'm sorry, from the prison. So again, as much as I lean towards Epstein's probably dead, every day we're getting something weird like, where's the. Okay, oh, here it is. Here it is. Unfortunate typo blamed for wrong date on draft statement about Epstein's death. And they accidentally wrote Friday, August 9th, in. In full. Now if they put 8, 9, 20, 19, oops, it's the 10th. I'd be like, okay, but how do you accidentally get the day wrong too? Like, I work on Saturdays, but I thought it was Friday and I got the number wrong along with it.

D (11:20)

Everything, everything's like weird and messed up. It really is just an absolute. It's an absolute cornucopia of things for the conspiracy theorists to buy, you know.

A (11:33)

Well, this is, this is the famous comparison that went viral.

D (11:37)

Yep.

A (11:37)

After the photo. So that photo is, is what we already saw of Epstein being brought into the hospital. And people have pointed out Epstein's nose is not round like that. It looks different. The ear looks very different. And a lot of people are like, that's just some guy kind of looks like Epstein. Now, I, I think it's fair to say when you die, your body does weird things. That's true too. And I'm not going to act like this is definitive proof, but I will call it some evidence. Evidence doesn't mean it's definitively true. It just means this lends itself to the idea that Epstein wasn't the body that was brought in. And then we've got the incorrect date on the press release, which again, has. Has answers, but it's still weird. And then we've got this where they admit in the files they put a fake body in there for the press, which at bare minimum means we thought we had a photo of his body being removed, and we don't. So now for the people who genuinely believe he's alive because there's a lot of fake photos going around, you can't even tell them we've we saw them remove the body because they're gonna be like, nope, that's admittedly a hoax.

D (12:36)

Yep.

B (12:37)

I think there's one name that keeps getting forgotten and not mentioned here, which is Bill Barr. He was, he was the Attorney General. He was in charge of all this. He bungled this entire saga so poorly, you would think that they were trying to get more conspiracy theories out of it and it's actually causing real problems. Seriously, like, it could only be worse if. If Bill Barr got caught trying to like, do a Weekend at Bernie's with Epstein's body to get back into the island. You know what I mean? Like, this is so pathetic.

C (13:09)

Excuse my ignorance. What did Bill. Attorney, former attorney Bill Barr fail to do? Do you think in Trump won? What?

A (13:14)

The whole thing.

C (13:16)

Oh, my God.

B (13:16)

Well, I just think the whole thing was bungled from. From top down. I mean, letting. Letting such a high profile prisoner get killed or, sorry, commit suicide like this. Every single thing. The case is all screwed up. Then you have the Bidens coming and now it gets even more under the radar. Like, and now everyone's blaming Cash, which, fine, I think it's fair to point fingers, but. And point out things that could have been better. But it's A long time since Epstein had all this stuff happen.

C (13:44)

Yeah, no, I've heard a lot of complaining about the Attorney Generals, but I've heard more complaining about Pam Bondi. I haven't really heard a lot of people trash Bill Barr for this, but.

D (13:53)

Well, I mean, this happened when Bill Barr was the.

C (13:56)

He was killed in the prison. Killed her or murdered himself in the prison.

D (14:01)

Yeah. Killed or murdered himself.

C (14:03)

I don't.

D (14:03)

Committed suicide is. Is the. The common phrase. But yeah, I mean, like, Bar was the ag. So I, I take your point. Your point is well taken. It. It is a real failure of Bar, but to allow all this stuff to happen, especially with someone. Again, we'll. I'll mention how connected he was with someone that is such a high profile. Even though I think that the average person, like, didn't have a real, you know, good idea of who Epstein was prior to this. Now there's people that are. That were absolutely in the know, that were. That were, you know, on. On that are online that knew about him and had all the. All the details and were, you know, sure that he was a bad guy. I'm not saying that there weren't those people. I'm saying that. That the average person, like, he wasn't a meme until after he died. You know, and so considering how. How well connected he was, you'd think that the Attorney General would be like, all right, we got to make sure that this is. Is clean. Considering his connections, considering how many people could be implied in. In nefarious stuff if. If this isn't done right. And they just were like, man, whatever, man, just by your. By the seat of your pants, you know.

B (15:10)

Well, I don't think it should be lost on anyone that Bar was in charge of the Bureau of Prisons as ag. Right. Like that's. That's a big deal. And to not have the proper precautions there, it's a disaster. It's embarrassing, honestly.

A (15:22)

We've got this photo that someone tweeted. Photos Epstein spotted again in Tel Aviv, Israel. Guess he's still alive. His death was faked by the Mossad. Is it the Mossad or just Mossad? Elad.

C (15:35)

I think the Mossad. I think it is the upper noun.

A (15:37)

Like you take the CIA, the MI6.

C (15:40)

Yeah. The FBI, the Attorney General who bungled this.

A (15:45)

So this is funny because there's readers added context. The photos are AI generated as shown by Google's Gemini watermark and synth ID detection. They do not depict Jeffrey Epstein, who died by suicide, 2019. The issue is that these images actually don't have the watermark. There was an image with the watermark. And now presumably people are generating more that are very similar. And he's like, these. He's wearing the jacket.

D (16:07)

Yeah, he's got the famous jacket.

A (16:10)

So I. I would go ahead and say these are probably a generated. But here's the crazy thing. What if they're not? And. No, I actually think they are. And we argued this the other day. My point is, you wouldn't know.

C (16:20)

We are.

A (16:20)

We are so far down the rabbit hole already. I'm gonna say it again for the fifth time. When Joe Rogan asked me what I thought about the AI future, I said I didn't think it was gonna be a big deal. I think people were overhyping. He's like, really? I was dead wrong. And I was stupid wrong. That was very easy to be right about. And I was wrong because this is back in, like, I think it was 21 or whatever. I was like, no, I don't. I don't think it's going to be as crazy as people think. I think, you know, we already have fake news and fake videos, and out of context, editing is already bad. This is where it's crazy.

B (16:49)

That looks like a paparazzi photo. Yeah, right?

D (16:51)

Yeah.

B (16:52)

But I actually, I don't think this is AI generated. I actually think that that's Val Kilmer.

A (16:57)

He is also dead. No.

D (17:04)

One of the one on the right doesn't really look so much like Epstein. The one on the left really does.

A (17:08)

Yeah. The one on the right might actually just be some random guy. Yeah.

D (17:11)

That could be someone else being like, why, why, why are you blaming me?

A (17:14)

There are a bunch of people who have. Who are named Jeffrey Epstein that have, like, posted videos on social media being like, hello, my name is Jeffrey Epstein. I am not that one. Please stop tweeting at me. There's also people who just look like him, but his name's probably, like, Bill Kaminsky.

D (17:28)

Yeah. There was a. There was a guy that tweeted his last name was Kaczynski. And he said something about having an unfortunate last name. And I forget who it was that tweeted back at him, but it was another person with a. A very famous, nefarious last name. And I'm, like, waiting for the. The person that. That is like, yo, my last name's Hitler.

C (17:46)

You.

A (17:46)

You're. You're familiar with the. The Hitlers, right?

C (17:48)

It's a family.

D (17:49)

Yeah.

A (17:49)

They refuse to change their name and they issue like, they know what they're doing. I mean, like, listen, Guys, I understand it's your name, your family name. It's been around for a long time and you don't want to change it, but they give out Christmas cards from the Hitlers. You know, let me see if I can pull this up.

D (18:04)

I wonder how long their list of people that they have to give a card. Is that a card?

B (18:07)

Oh, you know, they're adding to it every year.

D (18:09)

Like, man, send me a card, bro. Send. Yeah, just for the. To be able to tell their friends, look, I got this card from the Hitlers, the lodge over there. Not. Not entertained.

A (18:24)

Well, there's. There's actually this story. Politician named Adolf Hitler just won reelection again and vows to change his name. I have nothing to do with Nazis. Why? 59 year old Adolf Hitler Unoma was reelected for the fifth time in Namibia.

D (18:43)

He could just call himself.

A (18:44)

Why? Where is this stupid article? I read it a long time ago.

C (18:50)

59. So what does that mean? 1967. His mother just decided like, yeah, Adolf Hitler. There's no historical context here. I'm just in the middle of Africa and I don't know where is this Namibia? I'm in Namibia. And oh, wait, I actually believe Germany colonized Namibia.

D (19:07)

Correct.

C (19:08)

In the first scramble for Africa. Correct.

B (19:12)

So he get elected with that? He. Yeah, he won reelection.

C (19:16)

Look, there's a, There's a history of Germans in Namibia.

A (19:20)

German West Africa.

C (19:21)

Yeah, So I think there's more of a.

A (19:24)

Never mind. Hold on one second.

D (19:25)

There's like, there's more. There are parts of the world that don't look at, you know, Adolf Hitler as anyone more nefarious than, you know, any other dictator.

C (19:35)

Yeah, but they're not naming their kid that.

D (19:37)

I. How do you know? Obviously they are. Obviously they are.

C (19:42)

And he's winning.

D (19:43)

He's winning.

C (19:44)

I guess this is why Namibia is going to stay irrelevant.

A (19:47)

Why, why. Why was he named that? There are, there's bars.

C (19:51)

There's.

D (19:52)

There's bars that have like Nazi. Like, there's a. I think there's an Adolf burger that has like Adolf Hitler themes.

C (19:59)

Yeah. I'm just gonna be honest. I actually don't give a. I play into the tropes because it gets a little bit funny sometimes. But yeah, hey, go for it. He does look tough in that pick though. The real Hitler looks a lot tougher though.

D (20:10)

Well, I mean, in that pick.

C (20:12)

Yeah. And with a lot more swag than that. Than our new age.

D (20:15)

The new age with the. What is that, three chins?

A (20:19)

Oh, it was a documentary. Meet the Hitlers. Yeah, it was a bunch of honor. People whose last names were Hitler, they were interviewed, including a guy said his family, the names of the 1700s, and they refused to change it. Why should I have to change it? I mean, it's fair points. What do you do, you know, if.

D (20:35)

If. If, you know, like Cafe in Indonesia is there. It's a real thing.

A (20:40)

Yeah, there's. In Chicago, there's a bunch of buildings with swastikas all over them. All Indian and. No, no, because back. No, it's American because back in the day, people love swastikas. And a few. About a mile, like, within my neighborhood, I'll just put it like that. About a mile from where I grew up or in my neighborhood, about a mile from where my house was, there's a building. I don't think it's a mile, actually. And it's. It's like a two flat. And on top there's a very obvious swastika, and they hammered in wooden blocks to make it look like a square, but it's very obvious they're wooden blocks and it's a brick swastika built into the. To the structure. I was in. I went to Austin. We went there a couple years ago. I can't remember. I can't remember what was. I think. Oh, you know, it was. We were down there. We went on infowars and all that stuff. We went antiquing, as one does, and I was walking around in a room full of swastikas. It was crazy. And I was actually really surprised, considering, you know, how woke is nuts and Austin is. Got a decent amount of woke people in it. And so I went up to the counter and I asked about the swastika room. And I was like, there's tons of stuff in there. It's just all swastikas. And the guy working there showed me his keychain, which had a swastika on it. And then I was like, I think people might get the wrong idea if they see that. And he said something like, I don't care. This is a symbol that's. That's, you know, it transcends culture and history. It's been used all over the place. And he was like, in America, 100 years ago, people had this symbol all over their houses, everywhere. It was on street corners, it was on banners. And then Hitler and the Nazis happened, and all of a sudden, everyone's getting rid of it. But it was real. It existed. And I was like, well, you know, sure. My point was largely that the left doesn't care what your argument Is. And this was, you know, 20. 2021, I think.

C (22:23)

Yeah. I guess that was before Hitler, though. This guy would have been born in 1967, of course. Post Hitler.

A (22:29)

Yeah.

C (22:29)

Yeah.

A (22:29)

I'm just talking about how the swastikas literally everywhere.

D (22:33)

Yeah.

A (22:33)

And there are people named Hitler, which. What is strange is have you ever met someone whose last name was Hitler?

D (22:39)

No.

A (22:40)

Did they just cease to exist?

D (22:43)

I imagine a lot of people change their names.

A (22:44)

For sure. There's a funny joke in 30 Rock. I don't know if you guys ever watched it. You have to. Where Liz has a book of baby names. She's dating James Marsden, whatever his character's name is. And he finds it and he's like, why is Adolf circled? It's like it was my grandmother's. Why is Adolph circled?

D (23:01)

You know, you mentioned Austin. In that area in Texas. There's a lot of Germans. The town that I used to live in in burn called Bernie. It's spelled B, O, E, R, N E and which is super. It's a German spelling. And there's. There's a lot of Germans down there still. So, you know, have you guys ever.

A (23:19)

Seen the viral video where the woman is like, I'm traveling in South America and I found this beautiful little German village in Argentina. And then somebody commented like, nobody tell her.

D (23:32)

Why do you think it's so beautiful?

A (23:35)

It is kind of weird, though, because we were talking about this the other day with Nick Fuentes. His point about how Hitler is a historical figure. And he makes an interesting point that people today treat Hitler like he's still alive. Like he is still an active participant in history there. Whether. Whether. And again, whether or not you. You view him as the most sinister of figures or you take a similar approach to Nick where he was like, he's in the same vein as Genghis Khan or Napoleon. Like, yeah, they're bad guys for a variety of reasons. But nobody is going like, oh, God, Alexander the Great. Oh, heavens, there isn't. There is going to be a point where. And I think you see it with Gen Z. Yeah. Especially with Nick's audience. They don't look at Hitler the way look. My. My grandfather fought in World War II. So this is a world leader active. I'm a child. My grandfather's telling me about a person he experienced. Gen Z are moving away from that. We are. We're like, Gen Alpha is going to be like, I don't know anybody who cared. All the World War II vets are going to have passed on. And he's Going to just be another figure in history.

D (24:36)

Yep.

B (24:37)

Well, and that's why it's so terrible that the left just calls everything Nazis and fascists. Like, these young kids are going to grow up and they're going to. They're seeing their friends getting called fascists for showing up to work on time and everything, you know, and believing in traditional gender concepts. Like, if that's it, then they are going to reject anti Nazism, which we should not be doing. Like, we should be anti Nazis, obviously. But the left is ruining that because everything to them is Nazis.

D (25:06)

Yeah. I mean, this is an argument that's been made for. I mean, Jordan Peterson was making this argument 12 years ago. You know, the. If you call everyone a Nazi, if. If Milo Yiannopoulos is a Nazi and Hitler is a Nazi, it's like, this is a ridiculous comparison.

A (25:22)

The problem is, I was just thinking about this, is that these people could not define the ideology of Nazism.

D (25:28)

No.

A (25:29)

And what ends up happening then is if you guys know about that trope where it's like, what I see as blue, you may see as red.

D (25:40)

Yeah.

A (25:40)

You know, how do we know colors are colors? How do you define colors? Very difficult. And so I look at something, I see blue. Elad sees it as green, but because he's always known it to be blue, he calls it green. That's how colorblind people don't realize it unless you do certain tests. When these young guys are growing up and they're like, I like playing video games and meritocracy is great, and they go, you're a Nazi. And they go, is that what the Nazis believed? So when they're told that what they do and what they enjoy is what the Nazis are, they will falsely believe that things they do is what Nazis did, or there's some relation. And this will lead them into being actual Nazis or praising actual Nazism because they don't know what it actually is. That's the problem with the. Of what the left is doing, calling everybody Nazis and Hitler, which they still do for some reason.

D (26:25)

Yeah. It's because it's the worst thing they can think of, partially. And also because, like, the left tends to be like the communists, and communists think anything that's not a socialist or communist is a fascist. And all fascists are just Nazis. They don't even make a distinction between, like. Like Italian fascism and Nazism, which Nazism is fascism, but is a very specific and unique form of fascism.

A (26:54)

The. The issue, you know, the thing is, I would describe Nazis and fascists as Brutal. And it's a, it's a brutal authoritarian ideology. But I wouldn't call them dumb. I would just call them, you know, malicious, brutal, self interested a lot of things. Communists are very stupid.

B (27:14)

Incredibly dumb.

A (27:15)

Incredibly dumb. The function of communism itself, like the idea is something that if you like literally just wrote down their idea, you'd be like, hey, that literally makes no sense. If, if someone came up to you and said something like, you know, the famous quote or the phrase from each according to their ability, to each according to their need sounds so brilliant. If you're dumb as a box of rocks, it would be like someone saying that I can power my car off of cheese. You're like, that is a very obviously false statement. Yeah, that's a statement intended to be understandable to a child. You cannot put cheese in your gas tank. The car will not go. We can get a little bit more higher level and say, don't put diesel in your gasoline tank. It won't, won't work. Some people don't know that. And you know, that's why they make them different sized holes. They want to make sure you don't put diesel or vice versa. Literally, the concept of from each according to their ability, to each other according to their need presupposes a society in which people do not produce enough for the needs of each other, but get from the abilities of someone else. Meaning it's a society in deficit. This is why communism never had food. You cannot have. You have 10 people, five of them don't produce enough to eat, three of them produce just enough and two of them produce an excess. Congratulations, you are now minus EV. You are not producing enough calories to survive because the people who don't have the ability are still having their needs met. Sorry, it's. That's how the world works. Have a nice day. I can say that if communists, and that's why they massacred so many people and starved to death, you could you. And they were brutal too, don't get me wrong. But the thing about communists is that at the higher level they're super brutal. And at the lower level it was a bunch of functional retards.

B (29:05)

Yes, corrupt returns, right?

A (29:08)

At the higher level, the regular people I wouldn't call corrupt, I would call them stupid. Right. When you go to. There was a video, I did a commentary on where this guy is like, communism just means that the workers will share and it's like, you are very stupid. The powerful elites who know it doesn't work are just manipulating them because they need foot Soldiers to tear down a system they don't like so they can steal stuff.

B (29:29)

I will tell you that the movie or the TV series that I watch that really scarred me and exposed the real horrors of communism was Chernobyl. If you watch that, the bureaucracy and the covering your ass across the board, it literally could have destroyed most of Europe with nuclear radiation. And they were going to let it happen just to cover their own ass.

A (29:51)

To be fair, in Japan, for a different reason, they were going to allow this disaster to continue, and that was their fear of shame. So when Fukushima happened, they would not admit the severity of the disaster. And they kept saying everything was fine for the sake of preserving their honor, which is the most dishonorable thing you can do. The only thing I'll give the Japanese credit for is that the old people volunteered to go into the reactors to try and alleviate the crisis, knowing they would die. And they interviewed some of these old people saying, I lived my life, I've had my chance. Young people need a chance. They shouldn't do this job for us. And I'm like, well, I can give the Japanese that one Americans don't have. That Americans are, is the kind of culture, unfortunately, it wasn't always this way, where someone shoves their child out of the way to escape the burning building. Not everybody. I don't think conservatives largely like that. But I, I believe undeniably liberals are absolutely the kind of person who would chuck their kid through the flames to get themselves out, as evidenced by the fact they get so many abortions out of their own lives.

C (30:49)

Another one, I think they chuck the white guy on the tracks to try to save a black person to their detriment. Have you guys seen how it actually plays out?

D (30:57)

Starfleet Academy, I haven't seen it, no.

A (30:59)

I can't bring myself the new Star Trek show. And it's getting just universally roasted for being miserably bad. Deep Space Nine was the last Star Trek show ever made. Okay, Voyager fans, Voyager wasn't that bad. By today's standards, Voyager is a masterpiece. But Voyager, I actually like Voyager. But Deep Space Nine was incredible and Next Generation was incredible. Enterprise, eh, not really interested in prequels. Starfleet Academy, this is important. Okay, if you're not a Trekkie, that's too bad. You need to understand this cultural reference. It's very important. Star Trek the Next Generation was liberal pipe dream bs. I really, really do recommend you all watch Star Trek the Next Generation. I am not kidding. Some of you may not care for sci fi. The point of the show is they proposed a futuristic liberal society under. And the show is under naval military tradition. So there are a lot of things like with replicators, they can produce whatever food they want. What does this ultimately become? And it was not as the communists claim. Communists? They still had Federation credits. There was currency used to trade with other. Other cultures and societies within the Federation. Replicators could give you whatever you wanted, but they still owned property. They literally. Picard had a vineyard that his family owned for generations. Deep Space Nine. Incredible. And this is the stuff I grew up on. Proposed what would happen to a liberal society, high and mighty, at peace, when it was confronted with war. And what do you get? Benjamin Sisko, the commander of the Deep Space nine space station False flag. Kills a senator from a rival species, let's just call it Country. To trick them into joining the war on the side of the Federation. It is one of the greatest television shows ever made and it doesn't get near as much credit as the Next Generation does. But the gist of it is this Captain Picard Next Generation loved. It was this image of we are great and noble society and we've created this beautiful liberal system and then they go to war. The Dominion shows up, starts massacring and they're losing the war. So Cisco conspires with another guy to. He didn't know this was gonna happen, but the general idea is they blow up a ship carrying a Romulan senator, tricking the Romulans into thinking they were attacked by an enemy, the Dominion, to force them to join the war on their side. This is how politics works. And he's the commander who's trying to uphold these liberal values, saying they're not real. In a time of war, we will die, we are being crushed and we will do whatever it takes to survive. And that was kind of the wake up call to these people who grew up in this liberal society thinking this is how life can be. It's so perfect. But they're not realizing the only reason it's perfect is because we blow people up. Around the country. I'm sorry, around the world. To enforce the petrodollar like the neocon vision of people. Like a lot. And John Bolton saying it is because we invade these countries, blow them up and put the gun to their heads. You can pretend you live safely. Barack Obama, the Democrat, blew up children and young men and when they called him out for killing civilians, he said, well, they're military aged males so it doesn't count. This is the reality of the machine. And that's why Deep Space Nine is so incredible. Now to the main point when you said they would put a white guy in the train tracks to save a black guy. Starfleet Academy is the new woke garbage show. Everybody makes fun of all the new Star Trek shows. They're trash. However, despite the fact that in the new show they say the Federation is evil, they constantly, constantly are just insulting men. Like, a component of this show is the women are always telling the men they're wrong and the men have to accept it. Oh, God. Accept. Accept Benjamin Sisko. He's black. They gave a whole episode. I'm not kidding. There's a whole episode in the new show where they're going to the museum of Benjamin Sisko talking about how great, what a great man he was and how he did such good things. And it's laughably insane because, you know, the only reason there, it was funny. I was watching Nerd Roddick shout out to Nerd Roddick. He's like, the one time they're not insulting and condescending to a man, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like. But he didn't point out in his breakdown that the reason why was because Benjamin Sisko was black. And the writers are super woke. So they were like, if we're not gonna praise Janeway, even though she's a woman, she's white. Picard's a dude. Kirk's a dude. I mean, Riker was a. Was a dude. They're all white dudes. But Benjamin Sisko, he's a black man. He gets all the praise in the world. The annoying thing about it to me, for the most part, is Benjamin Sisko. I actually think Picard's my favorite, but Benjamin Cisco is real close. Because I absolutely love those. That episode, that show, showing this guy confront the realities of their liberal dream that didn't pan out when war came to their doorsteps. It's also why I like the reboot film Into Darkness. Although I'm not a huge fan of the reboot movies, the premise of it was they discover that there's a black ops militarization happening in Starfleet and they find a dude is making massive warships. The Federation is a bunch of liberal woke trash in the movie I'm not even playing. And they're like, we don't need war machines. We shouldn't build war machines. And literally they have war on their doorstep. And this one guy, he's the bad guy in the movie, which is really funny. And he's like, we need this. Like, we need to be prepared to Protect ourselves. And it was funny because they were the bad guys. I have no problem with having a strong military, having a very strong military. In fact, I think we absolutely must. I think if you want to maintain a liberal society of feminism in your borders where people can hold hands and sing songs under a multicultural rainbow, you need to have men prepared to go kill to sustain that system from the people who would come and take it from you. Anyway, that was my rant's over. I had a lot to say about Star Trek.

D (36:50)

Well, I mean, particularly to the part, to your point at the end, like if you don't have defenders that will protect the, the society from outside, day or night.

A (37:02)

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D (37:29)

Threats. The women are certainly not going to be able to protect them.

A (37:32)

You know, and, and, and another component of this is. I don't know if you guys saw the. What was it? There's a viral video. And you might know this, Terry. There's a woman saying that wokeness is feminization.

B (37:43)

Yes. Helen Andrews.

A (37:44)

Yes. When any system, when a, when a system's internal workforce becomes majority female, it inherently becomes woke. And I would argue not even majority female because I would argue that a lot of men are deferential.

B (38:01)

Yes.

A (38:01)

And so maybe around 30%, women start forming cliques and then they start pushing for this care and fairness idea without logic behind it. They. You know, the great quote she had was James Damore's paper arguing that maybe women just don't want to, you know, at the macro level, work in this industry. They didn't argue whether he was right or wrong. They argued that he hurt their feelings. And that is the female approach to it. The issue that I see is a certain portion of men, maybe, I don't know, 20% to a third, maybe more, are deferential to women for two reasons. You've got, and part of my French, I have to use this term because it's the academic term. Sneaky fuckers. This is an academic term, refers to males of a species that use deception or subterfuge to mate. So there are men who will tell him anything she wants to hear, and ladies know it too. But then you have other guys who are Deferential, largely because they don't care. These are guys who have seen the worst things imaginable. And so when one complains about something, the guy's like, I literally don't care. She says, I think we should do this. Whatever. It's like, brother, I have seen a man lose his hand in an accident. I have seen a guy fall into a meat grinder. Lady, you're complaining about words. Fine, whatever. I don't care.

D (39:19)

Yeah.

A (39:19)

Does it mean anything to me? At the same time, there are a lot of guys who are like, shut up. Stopping a baby. But I think you'll end up with a lot of these. Like, there are. There are. There are vets and there are people who have seen combat, who are liberals. And I think it's largely because they're just like, I literally don't care. Give the baby what they want. A lot of. I do think it's mostly the sneaky.

D (39:37)

I mean, a lot of times it's. It's like if you're in a situation where, like, you're at work or whatever, there's no benefit to trying to fight with a. With a co worker that's a female. Like, there's no benefit at all.

B (39:47)

Helen Andrews, like, part of this larger piece was she makes a really great point that hit me upside the head, which is that if you have a workforce that's too much like a fraternity, you can get a lawsuit against you for being sexist against women. But there's no equal for. If your workplace is too much like a Montessori daycare. Right? Like, if it's too feminized, you're good.

A (40:11)

And ultimately, men complain less.

B (40:13)

It's because we complain less. And all of our society is catering to these female dominated.

A (40:23)

I believe our incel friends refer to that as the gynocracy.

D (40:27)

Gynocracy.

B (40:28)

Gynocracy.

D (40:29)

Gynocracy. The longhouse.

A (40:32)

The gynocracy. So I had a funny bit on the show a few years ago and I was actually, I recently told someone, again, I can't remember who it was the green room while we were in Florida. And a really. A great way to explain the. The. The divide. Women will try to argue. Feminists. Sorry, not women, but feminists. The woke will argue that we need these laws in place for equality. Right? So the. So. So they say, like, we have protections against sexism so the workplace can be equal. And I said, okay, let's do a thought experiment. Elad walks into the building and Phil sees him, and Phil Goes, whoa.

D (41:07)

A lot.

A (41:08)

Nice suit, man. Actually, you're looking good. Have you been working out? Then he pats him on the shoulder.

D (41:12)

You look great.

A (41:12)

You look great, brother. And he pats him on the shoulder. No big deal, right? Now a woman walks in wearing a nice dress. And Phil goes, sarah, that's a great dress, man. Your body's looking good. You working out? Pat's on the shoulder. Guess who's getting fired and getting sued. Yep. Yeah, no question.

D (41:27)

Period.

A (41:28)

No question.

C (41:28)

There's also something to say about the amount that you could shoot the shit with a male or somebody of the same gender as.

A (41:33)

Hey, when I swore it was for academic reasons.

C (41:36)

Well, anyway, all that is to say, you know, when I used to have female colleagues, I guess I still do have female colleagues here. It's a different dynamic between men and women, obviously. And there's something to say about how that affects the workplace environment.

A (41:51)

Women don't understand that when they're not around, guys are just literally punching each other in the face nonstop. Well, there's all we do and just.

C (41:57)

Making gay jokes and pretending to be.

D (41:59)

Gay and it's weird endless episode of ow, my balls.

A (42:04)

Patting each other on the butts.

B (42:05)

I, I just want to tell a quick personal story. So when my, my dad was a one term member of congress and when he was running, there would be all these comments. Just talking.

C (42:12)

Thanks to you. By the way. I heard you did a good job in that campaign.

B (42:14)

It was a great. It was a one off. I, we only won that one, but. So my dad was in the pizza business, right? And he was at my Uncle Billy's pizza place and they were doing like the gay thing, like talking with the Lisp and making fun of each other, calling each other gay. And one of the waitresses was there and laughing along with it. Well, fast forward 10, 15 years and now she's a Democrat. So she's like, oh, and they, Bobby and Billy Schilling would, would mock gay people at the restaurant by talking gay. You know, you know what? I've heard it a million times, dude. It's so, you know, you know, you.

A (42:46)

Know, my response would be if someone was like, Tim used to go around mocking gay people.

B (42:53)

Yes, 99% of America did.

A (42:56)

Yes, bro. It doesn't, it doesn't mean I hate gay people. I also talk her rakadesh sometimes. I'm allowed to do that because I'm Asian. Like, it doesn't mean I hate Asians. I am Asian. Like, we make jokes like, bro, calm down. This is the thing. This Is the. This is the feminization of institutions. And when enough of the power dynamic shifts, this is what you end up with.

B (43:17)

Well, there's that famous four panel comic, you know, where it's the difference between men and girls. Girls, right. And it's. The guys are all in a circle. They're talking trash to each other. Oh, you're an idiot. Oh, you're a. You're stupid. And then the guy. One guy's like, I gotta go, guys. Have a great day. And when he leaves, everyone's like, oh, I love that guy.

A (43:34)

He is the coolest dude.

B (43:35)

And then the women, it's the exact opposite. They're like, oh, you're so pretty. I love that dress. Blah, blah, blah. And then she leaves. It's like, what a. And that is the difference. That's the two genders, right? And that's what happens. The workplace, in many cases, it's just hostile. But men, you're right. Men get along. We actually don't want conflict a lot of times. And we will, we will. We will go along just to keep peace and keep things rolling smoothly.

D (44:00)

Part of the reason is because, like, with men, if the conflict gets too heated, there's always the possibility of violence. With women, they just don't.

C (44:08)

It's not that.

D (44:09)

Not that women don't get violent. It's just that with men, we have.

B (44:12)

Like, you've been punched in the face.

D (44:14)

You know, evolution has made us, like, understand that if you're around guys, I disrespect another guy or something like that. There's a possibility. With women, it's very unlikely.

A (44:24)

I agree. The majority of violent crimes are committed by men against men. And that's another funny thing, is that feminists tell you that they're the victims of violent crime and. No, actually, it's like five times more likely that men are victims of violent crime.

B (44:38)

But also, the highest rates of domestic violence are in lesbian households. It's not a joke.

C (44:45)

Once you give them an ounce of power, they just go straight to their head.

A (44:48)

So let me tell you guys something. I. We. We have talked about. You guys, you know that I love chickens, right? They're. Chickens are good people.

B (44:56)

Yes.

A (44:57)

So most people, and I know a lot of you know this because you watch the show and you've learned so much about chickens. But there's a myth that if you put two roosters together, they kill each other. That is not correct. Two roosters that are bred to fight. That's how you get cockfights. But in any normal chicken coop, you'll have a bunch of roosters. Now, too many roosters will fight. That's true in a confined space, but you can have. Just depending on how many hens you have, you can have several. We had a ton. We had like 12 or 13 roosters with like 40, you know, 40 hens or whatever. And they got along, they hang out together. It's just. It's not. It's not correct. So there is something else. It's called the pecking order. And when you have baby chicks and they're growing up, they will charge at each other and then stop. And this is how they're determining who's going to be in charge, what the hierarchy is. So there is an alpha hen, is the pecking order, is the order, like who gets food first, who's the toughest, and the rooster is the boss. But roosters don't need to eat as much as hens because hens lay so many eggs. When you throw food in, the rooster just kind of watches and the hens will go off. But the top of the pecking order, she gets what she wants. So they did an experiment. They said what would happen if we took all of the hens from the top of the pecking order and then created a new hierarchy of only the super hens. So they set up a bunch of chicken coops, 12 hens. Whoever came on top, they took it, put it in a new coop, came on top. They did that and created a new bunch. And do you know what those hens did?

B (46:24)

They killed each other.

A (46:25)

They massacred each other. They're all dead. They all just died. That's crazy. Don't get me wrong. Like, roosters would. Here's the thing, like, roosters fight too, but we had. We had a chicken coop out here with, I think, five roosters in it. No fighting, just five dudes hanging out all day long, locked in the box. And they got along just fine. They did not like their dad. That was weird.

B (46:47)

That's interesting.

A (46:48)

Yeah. And so we had to take him out. But it was five barred. Barred Rock Bar, Plymouth Rock. Rooster dudes. They're chilling. They got along.

D (46:57)

Just hanging out, just hanging out.

A (46:58)

Big burly dudes. They all died as chickens. Do you know what I mean? Like, our chickens. Have a good life.

B (47:03)

Did they hate their dad or did they want to beat him?

D (47:06)

Him.

B (47:07)

Right. I think that's a distinction.

A (47:09)

They were. They were attacking him.

B (47:11)

So they wanted to be head of the household. They wanted to be out of the room.

A (47:14)

He was. He was. He was bigger than them. And Then they wouldn't let him eat. And so when we found out that he was. He, like he had lost some weight. We immediately took him out. And I think. I don't know if he's still around, Roberto. He might be.

B (47:27)

How long do chickens last? Like 10 years?

A (47:29)

Up to 10 years? Yeah, yeah. But usually not really.

B (47:31)

Yeah, look, they stop playing eggs way before we.

A (47:33)

We had. One of our chickens got sick when she was 2. It was Sarah Avenberg. She the bra. The Brahma. We brought her to a vet and it cost a thousand dollars to get her treated, to keep her alive. And they were like, are you sure? And we were like, absolutely. You don't understand. She is a celebrity on our live stream Chicken City, where we are making thousands of dollars per month. Well, at first, it was. The first two months we did 30 grand per. Per month.

B (48:02)

Oh my God.

A (48:03)

Just live streaming our chickens. Because what we did was my brother built a machine to where if you super chat, it will spray mealworms down. It still exists. And then every hundred dollars it plays a disco dance song for the chickens and sprays mealworms everywhere. The chickens all run out. And so we ran some commercials for it and like a family. It was like a family thing. And it was nuts. We were. We were generating like 30 grand a month in super chats from people who wanted to feed the chickens live. And I think if we had a manager and we act actively pursued that as a venture, it would have made a lot more money consistently. But it was kind of a gag, so we eventually just. It exists.

D (48:41)

Nice gag. 30 grand for a couple.

A (48:43)

Yeah, now it does. A couple hundred bucks. Basically, Chicken City pays the bills for our chickens. Nice. And we have farm fresh eggs every day. So, you know, if there's a will, there's a way, you know, you could.

B (48:52)

Probably expand that to like other animals, like wolves.

A (48:56)

And we wanted to do Monkey City and, and Cat Town.

B (48:59)

Monkey City's interesting if you had.

D (49:00)

If you got like mini cows, people would love that. Because people, it's a.

A (49:05)

It's. It's a really, really great idea. And we would just need business development for it. But the idea was to go to like schools and, and do events where it's like we pitch to them. Hey, we want to show Chicken City. And it's a virtual feed the chickens. And it's a way for them to learn about farm animals. And like the. The general idea was not to make money off of schools, but to just promote it so you can say like families, hey, you know, watch watches with your own kids, if they want to see chickens. And it's a way to bring the petting zoo or the farm to your home without, you know, any of the travel or stuff like that. And we wanted to do mini goat, we wanted to do goats and mini cows was one of the ideas. It's just honest. Early birds always rise to the occasion for summer vacation planning because early gets you closer to the action. So don't be late. Book your next vacation early on VRBO and save over $120. Rise and shine. Average savings $141. Select homes only. All the ideas we have, we can't do all of them. You know, we're still working on the card game. It just takes forever.

D (50:05)

Sarah wants him in eco real bad.

A (50:06)

So you get about what, like a gallon of milk per day?

D (50:08)

Something like that.

A (50:09)

A gallon of milk. Let's jump to some real news, ladies and gentlemen. We got the story from abc. Ex police chief says Trump told him, thank goodness you're stopping Epstein. In the 2000s, liberals most affected, Trump allegedly told the chief, everyone has known he's been doing this. He called Ghislaine Maxwell evil and an operative. The police chief's name, Michael Ryder, is redacted for the documents. But they lined up the information. They figured it out. Writers detectives were investigating Epstein for allegedly recruiting girls as young as 14 to provide massages that turned sexual. The information about Trump's alleged call makes up just a small part of the four page FBI report. Now, Donald Trump has said in the past he kicked Epstein out. Mike Johnson said Trump was an informant against Epstein and then walked those comments back. I think Trump was an informant against Epstein. I think that there are certainly a lot of nasty things about Trump in the Epstein files, perhaps, and I think the ones that exist pre 2024 by all means investigate the problem with the Epstein files. And this is, look, I'm glad they got released. I support Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna in working to get them released and get more names unredacted. However, it must be stated that there are documents from 2024 and 25, well after Epstein's long dead FBI crime tip. Documents that falsely malign innocent people, one of which was Tony Hawk. And this is an insane fabrication where someone called the FBI tip line claiming Tony Hawk was on Epstein's island while she was being trafficked there. Which is just the most ridiculous lie imaginable. Just absolutely false. Tony Hawk got married in Fiji in 2006 to to a ton of PR. MTV covered it and this person claimed that he got married on Epstein island instead. So we know it's definitively false. So that's the problem with a lot of the later whistleblower claims that came out in 24 and 25 after they already tried destroying Trump and his legacy and accused him of being involved in this stuff. So that being said, when Trump says he read on Epstein, when Mike Johnson said he was an informant, oops. I mean, no, no, I take that back. And then you find out that a police, he was like, Trump called us and begged us to go after him. Sounds like Trump was actually anti Epstein for a while. And I think one of the reasons why Trump didn't want the Epstein files released is several reasons. One of them might have been these documents may prove as they actively, maybe right now, that Trump was informing against other powerful individuals. Imagine like, I don't know, like Reid Hoffman or some of these people with Epstein 9 all the time finding out that Trump was actively working with the, with police to investigate the people involved in Epstein's inner circle.

B (52:43)

What do you think the odds are that this was Trump playing 4D chess, playing the long game? You slow walk this. Zero in the first admin. You let the Democrats build a frenzy over this and then you come out, oh, no, it was actually Gates and Clinton and Prince Andrew. I don't think Trump's the informant.

A (53:02)

I think Trump didn't want them released because for, for two principal reasons. One was the innocent people who will be caught up in false allegations of that, himself included. Although, I mean, maybe some of them are legit. I don't defend Trump on everything, but the later allegations are ridiculously insane. I can't even repeat some of them, but they are top tier retardation if you believe them. Like, I'm not, I can't repeat them exactly, but claims in 2024 that Trump took a measuring tape and then went into a pageant of underage girls. Like, no, guys, this is absolutely made up fantasy nonsense like the Brett Kavanaugh stuff. Okay, But I think you see that email from Epstein to himself where he accuses Bill Gates of getting an STD from Russian hookers, accidentally giving it to his wife and then trying to slip medication into her drink so that she, she gets cured without being noticing it. And how he wants $30 million. Trump goes to Gates and says, listen, you're on my side now and we're going to make sure these files don't come out. And Bill Gates says, done.

D (54:03)

Mario Novel is currently releasing some really obscene photos. They're, they're blocked out.

A (54:09)

But like minors.

C (54:10)

Yeah.

A (54:11)

Yep.

D (54:11)

Yeah.

A (54:11)

There's a lot of photos and videos of minors in the Epstein files.

D (54:14)

Yeah.

A (54:14)

So for Trump, I'm going to say this, I think Trump wanted to wield the one ring. He's thinking Bill Gates comes to him and says, please, please, please do not release these things. And Trump says, what are you going to do for me? Trump's probably thinking, I win, I win now. And so he's got Reid Hoffman panicking, he's got Democrat donors panicking. You got these Democrats coming out who flipped and are like, you know what? I was wrong about Trump. I shouldn't call them Democrats, but they were liberal personalities, wealthy individuals realizing how wrong they were.

C (54:43)

Yeah.

A (54:44)

I also think Trump was concerned that legitimately there are innocent people. Like I mentioned Tony Hawk. This is an insane, false allegation that stems from the fact there's an action sports photographer named Mark Epstein who took pictures at Tony Hawk's wedding in Fiji. And someone must have seen that photo from Mark Epstein, believed it was Jeffrey Epstein's brother, assumed the island they were on was Epstein island, and then called the FBI and made a fake claim because it's just ridiculous. So Trump probably was concerned about that. I think Trump is also concerned about how it makes him look. That being said, I ain't cutting Trump any slack now that we know that they've covered up the co conspirator conspirator documents. There's a document saying that they were investigating co conspirator Epstein. There's photos and videos of minors and children. Dan Bongino was like, look, a lot of these things were hearsay and, you know, fake tips that were uncorroborated. All of that is true, but there's still no excuse for them not exposing these deep, dark, corrupt pedos. Like, I can understand. I can understand Bill Gates didn't do anything criminal. If it is true that he got an STD from Russian hookers and gave it to his wife on accident, that's not illegal. He got divorced. I can understand why it's embarrassing and I can respect someone saying, please don't release that email. It's not material to anybody. Just. Just internal drama. That's gross and embarrassing.

D (56:00)

Yeah.

A (56:01)

But there's other stuff in there like that's already being brought up that I would say is shocking to the conscience that Trump called it a hoax. Shocking.

D (56:12)

Well, I mean, the hoax thing from Trump was not about, or at least it seemed to me that it wasn't about, like, whether the stuff in there was a hoax. It was his connection.

C (56:22)

Right.

D (56:22)

He was saying that the Democrats this was a hoax, that him being connected to any of the nefarious activity in there, that was the hoax. So whether or not, I mean, obviously people on the left, Democrats, they're going to say that that's not what Trump had. But the only reason they're going to say that is because their, their entire existence is to counter signal anything that Trump says.

C (56:43)

I believe the reason that the President didn't want this to come out, there's a few reasons, I think Tim hit on a few of them. But one of the other main reasons that he didn't want this to come out, because he thought it would be a huge distraction. When he calls it a hoax, I believe he's really just saying it's a distraction, it's a hoax as in it's a distraction and preventing him from accomplishing more in his administration. So instead of Congress doing things that he'd like to do, Thomas Massie is introducing legislation to expose these files that are going to lead people on wild goose chase. That won't satisfy anybody. I think also many people in its administration overpromised and then under delivered and that makes everybody in the administration look bad. So for example, AG Pam Bondi overpromised and underdelivered and made all these influencers look like complete, complete morons when she hands them these files. Dan Bongino and Cash Patel have been talking on podcasts for ages about what are the Epstein's files hiding? What are all of these people hiding? For ages they've been loosely accusing people of all this different crap. And now frankly, when their deputy FBI and FBI director, we're not seeing any concrete evidence of anything.

A (57:48)

You're awfully defensive.

D (57:50)

Animated about defensive.

A (57:52)

I'm going to take a quick search into Epstein's emails. Oh, what's this? Eliyahu? Oh, look whose name appears to. He's swearing again. Shlomo.

C (58:01)

Eliyahu David Stern. That's former NBA commissioner.

A (58:04)

Oh. I think despite the fact it's not literally about a lot, I still think it implicates him. It was from 2012. How old are you? A lot.

C (58:12)

I'm 32. Oh, washed up.

D (58:15)

20 years old.

A (58:17)

14 years ago.

D (58:19)

Yeah. You were a teenager.

C (58:20)

This is the, this is just.

A (58:22)

I'm kidding.

C (58:22)

It's not really obstructed the administration from trying to accomplish certain things. And now they have all of the Democrats. People are again, unreliable narrators when they talk about this case. People are desperately using this to sling mud at Trump. You have all the Democrats calling him a pedophile. And of course it's just a wild goose chase. And now as far as it's not a wild goose chase, the accusations and looking for certain things that aren't there is the wild.

A (58:47)

There's actually a lot of stuff in there.

C (58:49)

I don't think people are satisfied with anything from the.

D (58:52)

Doesn't change the fact that they're stuff, bro.

A (58:53)

There, There are emails. So they're, they're.

C (58:57)

Until we find people implicated in redacted.

A (58:59)

Their names working there. There. There are emails about torturing girls and naughty little girls and other things and the names are redacted. Now the argument is it's because these people are under investigation. And to be fair, the DOJ did say that some of these names are people who are criminally being. Are being criminally investigated. We're not going to release their names because that's evidence against them. And so my response is just don't release evidence. The problem then is no one will be satisfied because they can't release evidence.

C (59:28)

These guys should obviously be charged and convicted to the fullest extent of the law. But as I understand as of right now, Ghislaine Maxwell was finding minors for Jeffrey Epstein and he didn't particularly want to share his minors.

A (59:40)

I got to be honest. That was the story they said before the files came out. And then we found out about all these people who were there. Well, so just, just to be like real quick, like, if it's true that Maxwell was trafficking minors to Epstein, to Jeffrey.

C (59:53)

Correct.

A (59:54)

And then Epstein was having all these people over his island. Those people all just, they were stricken blind, deaf and dumb the moment the young trafficking victim appeared in front of them.

C (60:03)

Yeah, and it's totally. It's totally yes. And I mean, yes, that's the thing too. I mean, also after the fact where they, they convicted him in Florida, these people were still choosing to hang out with him. And that's sort of an indictment on them.

A (60:14)

Demonic smiting, it was the opposite of divine, divine light. So, you know, Reid Hoffman goes to party on the island, as he does, just around the time that every time it's like a Benny Hill thing. Like Ghislaine Maxwell's got a bunch of little girls, she's trafficking. And Reid Hoffman's plane lands and they're all running around frantically and every time Reid Huffman spins around, they spin behind him and run through the wrong door, like in Scooby Doo. Is that what happened?

C (60:36)

Dude, I don't think people are gonna be satisfied until Their political enemies are found in photos, in potentially AI generated photos with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell holding hands. That's the case. That's what.

A (60:47)

I already did that with Trump.

C (60:48)

Exactly.

A (60:49)

I've done a bunch of.

D (60:49)

I completely agree with you. That doesn't mean that there aren't people that are guilty of crimes and those people should be brought to justice.

C (60:57)

I agree that you don't think. I agree with you there.

D (60:59)

I'm just, I'm just articulating.

C (61:01)

Sure. These people should be charged and convicted if they're, if they're founder to have done any wrongdoing. But again, it's this wild goose chase and people will not be satisfied and it's a distraction from the President's agenda. And I believe full circle. That's why he believes it's a hoax. And you know what's really rich here? It's seeing Thomas Massie grandstand on this issue so aggressively. You know, we have nothing to say. But, you know, he goes on CNN to go trash the President and I don't know. And say ICE is doing too much out there and not supporting the one big beautiful bill, among other things. That's what Thomas Massie wants to be focused on. Not all the illegal immigrants in our country, but on a wild goose chase for, you know, whoever he doesn't like in these Epstein files.

D (61:42)

Yeah, I don't know. Look, Thomas Massie can do whatever he wants. Generally, I think Thomas Massey is a very good congressman, so I understand.

C (61:50)

Is he a good congressman when he trashes the President on cnn.

D (61:53)

I understand that you don't like him and that you don't like that he, that he, that he does. That he counter signals Trump sometimes.

C (61:59)

Yeah, I think it's a textbook rhino move.

A (62:00)

There are times.

B (62:01)

Well.

D (62:01)

That he's not really a Republican. He's more of a libertarian.

C (62:05)

Exactly. He's a.

A (62:06)

So.

D (62:07)

But the point being, like other, other than the, the, the Epstein stuff, I think that, that Thomas Massie is actually one of the more. And being weak immigration TRUMP Like 95% of the time or something like that. His voting.

C (62:19)

Not what it matters.

D (62:20)

His voting. Yeah, well, I mean, I think they all, I think they all. I think they all matter. But the point that I'm making is he votes with Donald Trump or along the lines of what Donald Trump wants something like 95% of the time. So that the vitriol that you attack him with I really think is un.

C (62:34)

On the bills that he votes against. And that's why they're trying to get Somebody to replace him in Congress.

A (62:39)

I gotta say, one of the bills in which he's voting against Trump's agenda would be releasing the Epstein files. I believe Thomas Massie was 100% correct in his efforts to get these files published and released. So if the argument is Donald Trump does a lot of good things and we should support him all the time, even when he's trying to block the release of the Epstein files, match is going to be absolutely not. I'm going to be with Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna on this one. I think Ro Khanna, he's a good dude. We've had him on the show one time and I've interviewed him, I think twice on the morning show. He's a good dude, but I don't agree with him on a lot of, for a lot of things. And I think there's a, I mean, look, he's the children of immigrants, so he has a much different view on these things. But he's a nice guy and he's willing to have a conversation. I respect it. And where he's right, he's been right. He's defended free speech, he's worked with Massey on getting these documents. When I called him out because he proposed releasing the files with no protections, meaning it would have released all the child abuse material, I tweeted it, he immediately responded, came on the show, told me I was right and he was gonna make sure that any bill to get these files released would guarantee the protections. And I said, amazing. I'm glad. Cuz I thought it was a poison pill where he was like, we're gonna get the Epstein files released. Forcing Republicans to vote no because they would have released victims names and abuse materials. And then he worked with Massie. They got, they got the job done. It is entirely Trump's fault, the DOJ's fault, the FBI's fault. On the mishandling of the, of the Epstein story from the PR perspective and the release of the files, they have mishandled it. I am happy with the outcome so far. I'm not gonna be this black pillar that's like, everything wrong, it's bad. They're all evil. I'm gonna be like, hey, they're releasing these files and we're getting stuff and some of it's bad for Trump and I respect that, but I think they've done a bad job. But I will give them, I will give them this. Overall, so far it is a net positive. The files have been released. Not all of them, but they are releasing the files. People are complaining it's not fast enough or whatever. Some names shouldn't have been redacted. That's fine. I'd be very angry if they were refusing to do it outright. But they are doing it, and I'm gonna give them credit for that because that's not an easy thing to do. But I do think they've done a bad job on it.

C (64:45)

On the release, it's been so annoying because Thomas Massie has been in touch with the victims of Jeffrey Epstein. And if he wanted to, he hypothetically could have released the names of the alleged perpetrators. He even now has access to the unredacted version. So it really begs the question, why haven't we seen the name of the.

A (64:59)

You're saying. You're saying why doesn't he release classified information?

C (65:02)

He's allowed to. As I understand.

A (65:03)

I don't.

C (65:04)

The unredact version, as I understand, if.

A (65:07)

I do not believe that's correct.

B (65:08)

Stopping the girls, though, from naming their. The people.

A (65:13)

I believe many of them did, didn't they?

C (65:16)

No. I mean, there's just.

A (65:17)

Well, to be honest, the couple that have.

C (65:19)

Have been discredited, for example.

A (65:21)

Exactly. I agree with that.

C (65:22)

Giuffrey. Giuffre.

A (65:24)

I don't believe she was discredited. I believe she's been challenged, but I don't think anything's been proven.

C (65:28)

No, I think she's been wholly discredited, but I feel like that's a. It's something.

A (65:31)

No, she hasn't. I've read.

C (65:34)

I think she withdraw, withdrew many of.

A (65:36)

Her accusations, and then she got hit by a bus, which she didn't actually get hit by. Said, please, I just need to see my kids. And then died four days later.

C (65:44)

I think she was one of the most ridiculous. I need to look at.

A (65:50)

I need to pull. Hey.

C (65:51)

I need to pull up the specific details, but I think she had a long history of being an unreliable witness, and then they actually tried to bring the case forward and couldn't move forward with her in the case because she was so.

A (66:01)

I don't. I don't know that's true, but perhaps. What to. We'll have to fact check that one and break it down. Let's. Let's jump to this next story from Kalshee. This is. This is actually crazy. There's a few things I want to address because I'm watching this prediction market stuff. Will Trump say bad bunny this month? Call. She's got it at 23% chance.

C (66:21)

Now.

A (66:21)

I don't actually care whether Trump does, but sitting across from Me is White House correspondent Elad Eliyahu. $297,639 wagered on whether or not Trump will say yes or I'm sorry, Trump will say the phrase bad bunny, yes or no. If you pick that he will, and you wager $100, you will win $412. So if you put, okay, let's do $1,000 that he's going to say it, you'll win $4,116. The reason why I find it absolutely crazy in normal sports betting before the emergence of prediction markets, nothing I could do is going to change whether or not Sean Strickland wins a fight ufc. So I can go on my show and say, I'm rooting for him, I want him to win. He's a good dude. And I did bet on him and they robbed him. And that was bs. Everybody knows that he won against. Was it Du Plessis, that fight? That was bunk. He should have won that one. I watched that. I was so pissed. Anyway, I digress. This call, she has prediction markets that millions of people can affect the outcomes on. So it's against the rules. On call she to be to insider trade. Meaning if you have the ability to influence the outcome of one of these trades and you trade on it, it's against their rules. But there are people who are nailing these predictions on polymarket as well. Like someone bet, was it 32 grand on when Maduro was going to be captured and then he did and they won something like $400,000.

D (67:45)

I thought that person got arrested. They did. I don't. I don't know.

A (67:48)

No, it's not illegal. No, this is not insider trading. They're not. It's not SEC regulated. This is not securities. So the crazy thing about this is, first, let me just preface this by saying I am not going to wager on this. I am not buying any shares. I will not break Kalshi's rules. But Elad, could you do me a favor? When you go to the White House, can you ask the President to clarify the name of the individual he criticized on Truth Social about the halftime show?

C (68:17)

I mean, you are my boss. We hold ourselves to a high journalistic standard here at Tim Cast, and it's all good fun jokes and games that we're having now, but we would never insider trade on something like this. And we take our opportunities at the White House very seriously and thank the administration for the opportunities they give us. I don't give enough shit about Bad Bunny to ask about it unless it's in relation to ICE deporting illegal immigrants.

A (68:40)

Oh, that's a good one. Yeah.

C (68:42)

But like, he was saying once that he didn't want to have shows in the United States because he knows Hispanics show up and he didn't want ICE to hang out outside of his concerts.

A (68:49)

This is. This is the interesting circumstance in the call she markets and how we, as we are not. Listen, this is my point. I can't go on my show and be like, hey, Sean, make sure you throw a left hook. Like it's not gonna change the outcome. I can't do anything. It's kind of crazy that I'm looking at this with 300 grand on the line. I do believe there are several legitimate questions that need to be asked of Donald Trump about Bad bunny. I'm not playing culture war bs. I think it's legitimate to ask Trump what specifically was he upset about with the halftime show. Just saying it was a bad halftime show leaves us all hanging out. Do you have legitimate concerns or criticisms? He has made comments about ice. Many conservatives are upset. He seems to be in favor of Puerto Rican independence, and he refers to America as the continents, not the country. There's a lot the President could address for the guy who performed at the Super Bowl. I think that's fair. And if there's a lot of criticism, it is insane to me that the chance of this has dropped 13 points since this morning when I brought this up. People are still saying Trump won't say it, and they're buying heavily against it. And I'm pretty sure everybody's room can make a phone call and get pretty dang close to making that happen. Like, the point is, Trevor Noah at the Grammys, he says, I'm Trevor Noah potato. And if you had a bet on Poly Market, that I was going to say potato at the Grammys, you just want a lot of money. Noah underscore 22, implying it was him who did it, which I don't think he actually did, but it is. It is a weird reality with these prediction markets that a lot of them are easily influenced by. Look there. There are. If, like Carolyn Levitt, one of the. One of the mentions here and pulls up is. Let's see what we have here. Things that could be mentioned. What will Bernie say during his interview? You know, I don't know. What will McDonald's say? What will Trump say this week? There's one from. What will Carolyn Levitt say? Mr. Beast? Adam Shift, Pam Bondi. Let me see. What will Bernie say? Airbnb Coinbase. Where's the Carolyn Levitt one? Let me pull that one up because that's another one. There we go. What will Carolyn Levitt say in the next press briefing? This is where it gets. Oh, wait, what? Oh, because she already had it. Okay. Earlier today. So. So she has a lot of those, I guess. But earlier today, it paid massive if she said stupid question. I think it was like 100 bucks. One, like five grand if she said the phrase stupid question.

C (71:20)

So I have a couple of different thoughts here, but I think I thought it was worth mentioning that the cone boy, Coinbase CEO, actually, a few months ago on an earnings call, you know, took note of this and then just dropped all of the words.

A (71:31)

He really.

C (71:31)

Yeah. Brian Armstrong, the CEO, at the end of the call, literally rattled off all the crypto words that were, you know, being traded on. This was a story the other day, but I think this is actually a little bit self defeating because I didn't know these were originally supposed to be betting markets. I thought these were supposed to be prediction markets.

A (71:48)

What do you think that is?

C (71:49)

So the rule. No, because here's the difference. Because then the rule is self defeating. Because then if somebody does have insider knowledge, you want that them to bet on it, because that will make them a more effective, effective prediction market. So if, you know, somebody may prompt the President on Bad Bunny, you'd want them trading on that because they could change the outcome of that.

A (72:07)

So here's. Here's the other thing I want to bring up with the call she stuff and full disclosure and check the call sheet. They do sponsor us. So I'm actually. I'm actually a fan. You can see I've got a couple hundred bucks. I'm not. Guys, you know, I like playing poker. I don't play crazy money. It's wild to me when I see people gambling ridiculous money. Even Dana White betting $400,000 on baccarat or whatever. You know, I get it. When you're a billionaire, you're a billionaire. But I got 300 bucks in there, and I think. I think I wagered on the. On the Seahawks to win. I won 50 bucks. I'm very happy with my. With my choice there. Okay? This is not advice. I'm not recommending you do any of this stuff. This is free money. Who wants to read it?

D (72:48)

Will the US confirm that aliens exist before 2027?

A (72:52)

And what's the percentage chance of it happening?

D (72:55)

13% chance that they will.

A (72:56)

Yeah. There is a 0% chance the US government in any capacity will confirm the existence of aliens this year because they don't exist. So at they might.

B (73:06)

I don't get a 13 return on that.

A (73:08)

Exactly. So let's say I put a thousand dollars in at the end of the year, I make 11139 bucks. That's better than the market.

B (73:15)

Way better.

A (73:16)

30, 13% guaranteed return taking money. There's $1.7 million wagered on on the U.S. whether or not they'll confirm the existence of aliens. It is zero percent now. Nobody there. There are others. Like will Jesus return? And those have like a 3%. Yes, that's okay, but doesn't beat the market. You want to get around 7%. It is insane to me that this exists. And here's what I'm going to show you. So the maximum bet is 451,000. So let's do that. You will make 30 grand. You will make $36,000 in one year. And all you have to do and understand this is important. When you buy shares in yes or no, you don't lose the money. You hold the shares. They can be sold at any time. So that means instead of having half a million dollars in the bank, where it's just being crushed by inflation with terrible interest rates, I can just put it in here and then at the end of the year clear out $36,000. Getting some of the best. Now to be fair, that's only an 8% margin because it goes up as you're.

B (74:30)

It's like stocks.

A (74:31)

No, no, it's the more money you put in, you change the payouts because you're. You're buying.

B (74:36)

So you have so many offers or bids.

A (74:37)

Exactly, exactly.

C (74:38)

Liquid.

A (74:39)

So you know, really, you want to find that happy medium? Maybe. Maybe 200,000 would. Would pay you better. It's 12%, but that's $26,000.

C (74:48)

You're also taking on some risk of Kalshee making it that far into the future.

A (74:52)

I don't see Kalshi going out of business in less than a year.

C (74:56)

You never know. But that's the associated risk.

A (74:58)

But then she is printing money, dude.

C (75:01)

Sure, but the DOJ could take them down for something stupid. Oh, they're trading something. They're approved and regulated until something goes wrong.

A (75:07)

Okay, but yes, sure, a meteor can fall in their headquarters, right?

C (75:11)

I don't think it would have to.

A (75:12)

Be that bro call. She is regulated. Approved. It's here. They won. I don't. I don't see a reality where at this point with as mainstream and no one's upset about it, Democrats Republicans aren't complaining about it. They're fine with it. It got. Went through its regulatory process. It won. They're not going out of business. Sure, fine. But then you can make the argument that, like, you better not put your money in bank of America because I.

C (75:34)

Trust Chase bank more than I trust Kalshee.

A (75:36)

That's fair. That's fine. But still.

C (75:38)

And it's fdi. Is this fdi?

A (75:40)

To be fair, Your only risk factor then is the solvency of Kalshee. Fine. I still think I'm not recommending anybody actually do it. But it is still pretty crazy that you will clear 30, $40,000 because there are people stupid enough to put up money thinking the government is going to come out and admit aliens exist. Notice I said admit. Here, check this out. This is crazy. The leaderboards. Let's go to, like, the monthly leaderboard. This dude bets and sweats made $500,000 in a month. A month on call. She.

B (76:12)

Wait, is that just for this month or is that for January?

A (76:15)

I think it's for the last 30 days, specifically.

B (76:17)

Okay.

A (76:18)

And if you go by the last year, here's a dude who did 600,000 in a year, but yo, the monthly is. Is cooking. Here's the thing, okay? I know everybody here, and again, I'm not advising anybody to do anything. But if you listen to this show, you are on the cutting edge, the bleeding edge of news, breaking news. Sometimes news breaks on this show when we pull up the tweets in real time saying, this thing just happened. For most people, they are not that tuned in. And I've, I've said this time and time again, if I actually traded stocks based on the news gathering job that I did, like if we hired a day trader and I just said watch my videos and then make trades based on what I say, I'd probably be a billionaire. I'd imagine for anybody in this room, for you, knowing what you know about what's going on, you could probably make a million bucks.

B (77:12)

Well, I, I think a lot of the. What I like about Kelsey is you're not betting against the sports book, right? The. The sports books have really. We, my buddies and I, we all had this NFL betting strategy that worked really well, betting fourth quarter unders. But it totally changed. But I just, I think that this is much better because you're betting against other people. They have to buy and sell it. I also think that it's. If you understand politics, you can make a ton of money off of these shutdown fights, Right? I made a little Bit of money off of the first government shutdown last year because it was obvious Democrats were not going to open up the government until after that November election. I think this is a great way to make money if you understand what you're doing.

A (77:58)

Well, here's the other thing. And again, I'm going to stress this. Don't listen to me. Anything you do is your problem. If you. There was a guy I watched on Instagram where he said he just goes on to call she. And he bets on the guarantees so you can go to live things that are active right now. And it's like, okay, find. Find a guarantee. 84% for Illinois to win college basketball. And he's like, I'm going to bet on it. And he's just printing money. Just printing money.

C (78:27)

They're only up four. That's crazy.

A (78:29)

Yeah, so there. There are. There are. There are certainly better. Better bets and better odds. But even look at Houston to Utah, it's 8 to 4, but it's 94 to 6. That's. That's, that's brutal.

B (78:39)

But I would go the 6% on that one, though. You know what I mean? Just started. That one.

C (78:44)

Just started. But the other game was really weird odds.

A (78:47)

That's a value bet right there.

C (78:48)

The previous one was.

A (78:49)

So the, the general idea is if you find a, a, a, a, a contract that will end soon, like 2028 Democrat nominees got 47 million wagered or contracted, I think is the right word. But you're not going to find that out for, for two years or. Actually, no, for. For what, a year and a half for the next Democratic.

B (79:09)

Crazy long time to tie up your money.

A (79:11)

No, actually, that's going to be two. It's going to be two years. It's going to be like, what, mid 20 early? No, it's probably going to be, what, early 28.

B (79:17)

Early 28.

A (79:18)

Yeah. It's kind of crazy how long they took for Harris.

B (79:20)

It might go into the summer. It could be two and a half years.

C (79:22)

Dude, I need to start betting against Khomeini being out as Supreme Leader. I don. We're invading. I don't think we're.

D (79:28)

I don't think we're.

C (79:29)

You think, you think. I don't think.

A (79:31)

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

C (79:32)

He dies.

A (79:32)

So, so here's the thing. Based on everything we know, not only that, a lot. Like, we know people at the dod and that's not insider information. No one's telling us, hey, a lot. We're not going to do it. It's just that the General idea we've gotten from people on the show and the way things have been explained have led us to believe.

C (79:51)

So I'm more informed than the general.

A (79:52)

Public, and the general public from watching this show are more informed, and the people who watch are more informed than the average member of the public. My point, ultimately, is, even outside of that, you take a look at. I mean, the aliens one's a really good example. 87%. And it's. It's one year. It's a long time. If you go in and I'm not telling you to do it, I'm saying here's the idea. And you just find any. Any contract that's. Look at this. It's 78 to 77 was 76 to 21. Four seconds left at overtime. Them. That's free money.

D (80:26)

Yeah, like, free money.

C (80:28)

Are you.

A (80:29)

That's what I'm talking about. Can I literally just buy they're gonna win right now? It just ended. You could. You could have cleared a contract.

B (80:36)

I will say you got to be careful about those type they call those bridge jumpers, because, you know, guys would lose all their money at the track and then put one big anything.

A (80:45)

I'm not. I'm not telling anybody to do this.

B (80:47)

No, no, I get. I get.

A (80:48)

But my point is just there are contracts that end in, like, a day. Right. And who will Trump nominate as Fed Chair? Do we know when that's supposed to happen?

D (80:57)

I think it's. I'm not sure when.

B (80:59)

It's got to be soon.

A (81:00)

I'm not sure. But 96%. It's going to be Kevin Warsh.

D (81:02)

I've heard it's already going to be Kevin Warsh.

A (81:04)

Agreed. So if you bought. Yes. And you're like, okay, I'll put in what's. It's $157 million wagered on this. So that means you could look at this. Put in a million bucks, you'll get 20. 20 grand for free.

C (81:15)

It's really unsettling, too, because, like, people really can affect the change. What if something happened to this guy? Right? It's crazy odds like this.

A (81:23)

So I would not recommend any putting a million dollars or whatever. But again, even if you wanted $3 for free, it's. It's. The point is, I'm watching these Instagram videos where these dudes do this. They're like, I'm gonna go and find something that's 95% guaranteed and it's free money, because it's not even really 95%. It's not like casino odds. Casino odds. There actually is a 4% chance of losing. This is actually 100%. But there are. People value betting the opposite. Just to see.

C (81:49)

Imagine you're a journalist sitting on a scoop on war. Just like odds like this.

A (81:56)

No, no, no, no. You're sitting on a scoop on writer.

C (81:58)

Yeah.

A (81:59)

You're sitting there knowing full well it's going to be Ryder. And then you're like, oh, man, dude, I'm going to look. $100 nets you 10 grand.

C (82:08)

Being able to bet on so many of these different things really starts messing up people's incentive structures though, and can lead to really gay stuff.

B (82:17)

Is there a market for finding Savannah Guthrie's mother?

C (82:21)

It's just morbid.

B (82:23)

No, I. But they have morbid stuff.

A (82:25)

They do.

C (82:26)

I don't think we're under on deportees.

A (82:27)

Here's. Here's the thing. I'm going to say this. Call Poly Market. Maybe Poly Market. I'm not trying to be a dick to Polymarket nor be derisive in any way to call she. Polymarket kind of has the. What's the right way to describe it? Let's just call it the Wilder bets. You know, that's kind of an offensive wager. Are we going to find her mom? Call. She is a little bit more above. Above board. Like, Polymarket comes off to me like a dude in like a hoodie and he's like hanging out. Lean up against a brick wall being like, hey, you want to make a bet? And call. She is more like the casino guy in the vest being like, place your chips. So I don't mean that in any way to be diversive to either company, but when you look for the weird bets. Call. She's pretty much very straightforward. Yeah. Although I don't. I kind of think that's a brutal.

C (83:19)

So maybe to be derisive to these companies, I think they are contributing to the degeneracy of our society. Like, I thought it was bad when sports gambling became ubiquitous and now we have Kalshi and Poly Market. Even advertising with people like cnn. So even in the legacy and yeah.

A (83:34)

Yeah, Polymarket has it. Oh, God.

D (83:36)

These are Klarna.

C (83:38)

What's.

A (83:39)

Oh, Klarna's way worse. No, no, see, see, I got. I got to push back.

D (83:42)

Your burrito.

A (83:43)

I got to push back. I got to push back. I don't agree with the idea that because sometimes people do bad things in excess, we should ban the thing entirely.

C (83:53)

Sure.

A (83:54)

I have no problem with Polymarket or call She. I think they're great. I like. I Said I've got an account on call. She they sponsor the show and if. If I think it's fun to make predictions. Add a little spice to your sporting event.

C (84:04)

Look, I bet is there a limiting principle on that?

A (84:07)

I have no problem with people drinking beer. I have a problem with alcoholism and I don't think people should go to prison for having alcoholism. They should get some kind of help. We want to help each other. I got no problem with gambling or prediction markets. I have a problem with gambling addictions. And we should get these people help.

C (84:22)

You know a majority of these industry are built off of the backs of these loser addicted males. These. It's not true. Of course it's true.

A (84:30)

Completely false.

C (84:30)

What part of it.

A (84:31)

There is certainly a problem emerging where we have way too many casinos and mobile apps where there are a lot of people now that are gambling that didn't before. But the bulk of people who gamble are not addicts who are losing their life savings. That's actually exceedingly rare. Most people and you can listen bro, I spend way too much time playing poker. I know about how these things work. It's extremely easy to get status at a lot of casinos because people don't go to casinos that often. So for example, I think like the Hard Rock which is they're all over the place. There's not that many relative to other like Pen play. Pen Entertainment is the second biggest casino chain in the country. It's wild. But to get status like the highest tier you have to have spent over a year $15,000 at the casino. Now don't get me wrong, that's a lot of money but that's the highest. That's their highest member tier outside of their invited tier which is where you get millionaires and billionaires and stuff. If you want to get general status, the cards free. So we don't count that. But the second tier, it's like go there for three weekends and you're upgraded and getting free food and comps. And that's really easy to do because people actually don't go that often.

C (85:40)

I think I should be a little bit more concise. Most of the revenue generated by these gambling companies is not coming from addicts. It's coming from no as as far as the sports betting apps go. Definitely I've read research into it. That's incorrect as far as I understand bro. Listen, just to make a further point about that as I understand that that is to be the case but I also think we're dealing in a time of economic stagnation. And young men are already struggling with so many different things. Young men are struggling with drugs. Young men are struggling with women. Young women are. Young men are struggling to find jobs.

A (86:10)

And now we're throwing a cultural problem.

C (86:14)

And this is contributing to the cultural problem. But to add on that now you have a shitty job that you go back home to and you think, oh man, I barely have any extra money around. Hey, maybe I go bet on polymarket, Maybe I go bet on calcium. Maybe I go bet on the sports game that I think I know better on. And then these young men continue to go further and further into debt. They predominantly.

A (86:30)

We get it. You're gish gallop.

C (86:31)

More men.

A (86:32)

We get that you're gish galloping.

C (86:33)

I'm not finished.

A (86:33)

You'd like to make a single point that can be addressed instead of saying 50 things that are wrong.

C (86:38)

My point is this hurts young men.

A (86:40)

Okay, so let me ask you why you are wrong. Because the majority of money generated is by single use, small bets. People who make sports bets, they're like fantasy leagues and things like that where someone puts 20 bucks down. It would be impossible for casino to exist if they drained the bank accounts of everybody who showed up. And they were all homeless after the fact. Alcohol, the booze industry is not. It's not supported because everyone's addicted to alcohol. It's because people sometimes have some drinks.

C (87:09)

It's supported by the alcoholics. Alcohol industry is supported by the alcoholics, not the people who occasionally drink.

A (87:14)

If you removed all alcoholics from the market, you would not put a dent in your.

C (87:20)

Totally wrong. You'd probably remove 80% of the alcohol sales.

A (87:23)

Absolutely.

C (87:24)

If you remove the alcoholics from alcohol.

A (87:27)

Sales, there's not that many alcoholics, bro.

C (87:30)

Most of the people drinking most of the alcohol are the alcoholics. It's like a 1 percenter issue. 1% of the people drinking the alcoholics are consuming like 80% of the alcohol.

A (87:39)

You do understand how ridiculous it is considering how much alcohol is sold every day?

C (87:42)

No, I'm totally spot on on this. So people who are alcoholics are having like 100 drinks, hundreds of drinks a month.

A (87:49)

Many of them.

C (87:49)

But they're drinking most of the alcohol.

A (87:51)

No, they're not.

C (87:52)

Yes, they are.

A (87:53)

So I spend a lot of time playing poker. Poker rooms are very different from casino floors. Always different people. You, you. There's. There's a handful of regulars at a lot of these places. And this is why Elad casinos have venues. Because most of the people who show up come for a show and then never come back. That's why casinos have venues. That's why steak. I was steak. Kick.

C (88:20)

I think steak is the gambling. I think cake is streaming and.

A (88:25)

And kick is the venue to attract people to come to their online casino. Casinos don't have regulars who pay their bills, so they have to bring in at a loss shows. There are people who go to Charlestown and they'll sell a thousand tickets and they'll get paid $30,000. And I'm like, whoa, now come on there a minute that people. Shut up. Aren't spending that much for some of these tickets. Yeah, for them to pay the artist, pay the staff, the booking, the space. The casinos book these things at a loss because bringing in a thousand people to a venue means they're going to spend 50 bucks on drinks, maybe 100 bucks on slots, and then leave. I have absolutely no problem with people having fun. The idea that the problem we are facing is. I do agree that the ubiquity and access to something does create the like the ease of access to it makes it. Well, I guess the simple way to put it is the more casinos there are, the easier for it. Easier for addicts and degenerates to get caught up in it.

C (89:26)

Agreed.

A (89:28)

But the problem we have in this country is cultural. And we have parents who are not raising their kids well. We have economic systems which have incentivized mothers to get jobs instead of raising their kids. So the kids go to schools where they're indoctrinated by leftist teachers. This is creating cultural issues that did not exist before. It is resulting in the expansion of degeneracy. The. The availability of marijuana is not the problem. The availability of alcohol is not the problem. The availability of gambling is not the problem. And I'll put it like this first. I will say, don't anyone dare come to me and say that we should ban all these things. I had all the access in the world as a teenager to drinking, to smoking, to, I mean, playing street craps, whatever you want to do with the gang bangers. I also had good parents, so I never did any of those things as a teenager. I tried pot once. I didn't really like it. When I was late, like 19 to 20, I drank on the weekends quite a bit with my friends. And then after about two years, I was like, this sucks. I don't want to drink anymore. I don't really enjoy it. I don't need this. Some people just get drunk and they don't stop. But when you have good parents and they. And they. And they raise you right? They teach you, right? You don't experience this to this extreme degree. There can be a casino in every single street corner, and a devout, faithful, moralistic country would run them out of business. They. They could not exist. Now, what we have is there are a lot of people that are okay with gambling now. And so New York and Chicago are opening big casinos. And I have no problem with a city having a casino. I do think there is an issue that with. I talk about all the time. Within two hours of us, I think there's like 10 casinos. Like, that's wild. But again, a guy who gets off of work on a Friday and he's worked. He worked 40 hours, his hands are calloused, and he says, I just want to watch the game with my friends. I want to put 20 bucks down, get a little excitement from the game with a smile on my face and make jokes. And if I win, I win. If I lose, I lose. That's the average person. Sometimes people are addicted, and that is a problem, but we're not. I don't think it makes sense to ban. Ban something simply because some people abuse it.

C (91:43)

So as far as access goes, do you have any issue with people having, you know, in any state being able to access any of these sports betting apps or a casino, online casino on their phone?

A (91:52)

I have no problem whatsoever with people being able to access the mobile apps. But I do understand an ease of access will increase per capita the amount of people who will be addicted or see those problems. Because a state that never, like Texas, has no gambling. Right. They only have private gambling, like poker rooms. So there are people who just can't do it.

C (92:13)

It's like, does supply drive demand or does the demand drive supply? And does this help make it become a part of the culture? Neither. I mean, I think.

A (92:21)

Talking about a cultural phenomenon, no, but.

C (92:23)

The supply of the ability to, like these casinos and these different apps to gamble on, I think this helps push the demand for more of it.

A (92:30)

I think it is like, the amount of.

C (92:33)

But I agree with you that, like, culturally and if you were raised right and if you're a good, religious, sane, sober, moral person, then, yeah, you probably wouldn't gamble. And that's a good thing. And we should encourage that.

A (92:42)

When you go mostly not most casinos, if you're gonna find a regular, they're in the poker room. And that's because you can sit in a poker room for 12 hours and not spend any money at all. And so a lot of these guys are just hanging out. You do get everybody Calls each other degenerates and things like that. But typically if you're in a place and you see someone you know, it's a poker player. Some casinos have like, no one's regularly playing craps for the most part. That's exceedingly rare. People who go to casinos go one time every few months and they bet a few hundred bucks and they leave. That's the average person. That's where they're making their money. This is why casinos have hotels, this is why they have venues, this is why they do promotions, and this is why they send you emails incessantly. Because if it were true that most of the money they made was from degenerators, lose all their money, they wouldn't advertise at all. They would just have people coming and dumping their paychecks.

C (93:31)

I think we need to do negative PR against things like online gambling. I think we need to start calling it.

A (93:35)

I think that's a great games.

C (93:37)

You don't want to go play those games filled, sir. You don't want to go to those goy game casinos. No, those Jews are stealing your money at the casinos. Do you really want to go to those. Play those goy games in those Jewish casinos where they're stealing all your money? Do you guys really want to log on?

A (93:51)

We get it. The problem that I see with your logic is that this is what has led conservatives to failure over the past 20 or 30 years. Instead of addressing the issue of what children were being given, they said, just take the thing away as adults. And that didn't work. Marijuana is legal because the country accepted it, even though many conservatives don't like it. Because instead of going to kids and strengthening their familial values, they had DARE programs, which actually made everything worse, bro. When I was in. When I was in public school as a kid and the cop comes in and he goes, I'm going to teach you about drugs. And then he showed all the kids the drugs. You know, the kids did. I'm going to get me some of that.

B (94:30)

They made it cool, they made it.

A (94:31)

Alluring, they made it punk rock, they made it edgy, they made it anti authoritarian. And guess what? I never did any of this stuff. I have never done a hard drug in my life. The most I've ever done is I smoked pot one time with my buddies when I was 16, I think I was 16, 15 or 16 in his backyard. And they're like, tim, try the pot. And I was like, sure, why not? I'm like, that sucked. And I don't like it. I never smoked it. I never tried again.

C (94:55)

Maybe sometimes I wish we were a Christian nation, because a Christian nation would definitely outlaw gambling.

A (95:01)

You don't need to outlaw it.

B (95:03)

I can tell you one easy way. I think that everyone could get behind that. A lot of people aren't talking about to fix the gambling situation, especially sports betting. So I discovered this with our group of friends. I mentioned this earlier. We had a whole strategy. It wasn't even gambling. It was investing. We've all been throttled or kicked off of several books. I'm throttled off of DraftKings. I'm banned off of bet365.

A (95:26)

Why?

C (95:27)

You're not allowed to be an advantage player.

B (95:29)

You're not allowed to win on these sports books. If you start winning, they say, okay, that bet's too big. The most you can bet is $5.14. So I think they, they're obviously kicking players like us off that are good and are actually doing what you can do. Now in Kali, I think if you eliminated that and say, basically, hey, is this not deceptive advertising? Is this not fault? Like you're advertising that everyone can be a winner. Not everyone can be a winner because you them off when they win. I, I love, no, I, I love.

A (95:57)

Kalsi, but because they're, they're, they're, they're basically just saying you're, you're buying and trading contracts amongst each other. Again, the issue is I, I'm a fan of this. And as you can see, I have 313.96 in my account. That's a lot for me. And I, I, it's for fun. I put, I, I put a hundred bucks on the Seahawks to win, and I won 50 bucks or something. And I was like, yeah, let's go. And if I lost the 50, I'd be like, Ah, you know, I lost 50 bucks. You know, I mean, like, hey, it's just, it's just for fun. It's just to be like, oh, boy, I hope I win. You know, there's nothing wrong with having a beer. There's nothing wrong with getting drunk. There's something wrong with getting drunk and crashing your car and killing somebody. There's something wrong with getting drunk every single day, nonstop, no matter what, and then dying of liver cirrhosis.

C (96:39)

So the, also the stat that I was misquoting earlier was this is from the Smithsonian says the top 10% of American drinkers consume nearly 60% of all the alcohol sold, averaging roughly 74 drinks per week.

A (96:52)

Week.

C (96:52)

So it wasn't as exaggerated as I stated earlier, but still makes up the top 10% makes over a majority.

A (96:58)

So say that one more time.

C (97:00)

The top 10% of American drinkers consume nearly 60% of all alcohol sold.

A (97:04)

That doesn't mean those are alcoholics. Okay, so are we talking about somebody who has, like, two glasses of wine.

C (97:11)

Averaging 74 drinks per week? Actually, that is an alcoholic.

A (97:14)

Yeah, fair point. 74 per week. That's a lot.

C (97:16)

That's an alcoholic for sure.

A (97:17)

That's ten drinks a day.

C (97:18)

Yeah. And, I mean, I know people who do. I know alcoholics. I don't know if it might be 10 drinks a day. I wouldn't know, because they hide it. And we all know Alcoholics, actually.

A (97:28)

Indeed.

C (97:28)

10 drinks a day.

D (97:29)

As an alcoholic, it's an alcoholic. But 10 drinks a day, if you're drinking every day, 10 drinks a day.

A (97:34)

It's not a lot.

D (97:35)

It's not a lot.

C (97:35)

Well, alcoholics could power through a ton of alcohol because they build up.

D (97:39)

When I used to drink all the time, I would drink. I would drink well over 10 drinks a day.

C (97:45)

Oh, I have a very sensitive stomach.

A (97:47)

I don't know how that's possible. First of all, alcohol tastes terrible. Well, miserably disgusting.

D (97:51)

When you're drinking over 10 drinks a day, you're not drinking for the taste of alcohol.

A (97:55)

See, I go. I go to the restaurant and I say, I want a mocktail.

C (97:58)

That is so lame. Just get a soft drink. What are you getting?

A (98:01)

A mocktail, dude, Are you kidding, bro?

C (98:03)

Let me get a little lemon with an extra little. A little mix with the margarita mix.

A (98:06)

Let me teach you something about class. I was hanging out class.

C (98:12)

I'm getting trash during the super bowl.

A (98:14)

Right before the super bowl started, I went to the steakhouse at mgm, the Voltaggio brothers. It's excellent. And they have something called chai. Something new where it's chai spice with a dried orange, orange juice, sparkling water, and there's some other stuff in it, and it's delicious and it looks beautiful, but I don't need alcohol. You could put some rum in it. But why? Just ruins it. I don't need to get drunk. And it tastes terrible. No, don't get me wrong. Splash some rum on some bananas and fry them up in a pan with sugar and a little cream. And now we're talking. That burns the alcohol off.

B (98:51)

I just want to say that earlier I brought up Savannah Guthrie's finding mother. Her mother. I think it was distasteful. So I am going to pledge tonight to not have a single Sip of alcohol until they find her.

A (99:01)

I, I gotta ask. I don't get. I don't get alcohol.

B (99:04)

I do. I'm gonna, I'm not gonna have a single sip, though.

A (99:07)

I, I, I, I don't understand alcohol at all.

D (99:09)

Alcohol.

A (99:10)

It's disgusting.

C (99:11)

Oh, that's so un American of you to say. Us Americans, we love alcohol. I feel like that's our pastime, drinking beers.

B (99:17)

Yeah.

A (99:17)

I mean, humans. They say that humans stopped being nomadic to make beer.

C (99:21)

Yeah.

A (99:21)

And then beer was safer to drink than water because the alcohol in the process killed a lot of the bacteria and stuff.

C (99:28)

And I feel like, I don't know about other religions, but in Judaism, we bless the wine, and it's like a big part of what we do.

A (99:33)

Well, Christianity certainly drinks wine, and I believe the Bible and the Torah say spirituous beverages are perfectly acceptable.

C (99:40)

You know, actually, I think the Muslims don't drink wine.

A (99:43)

They do not.

C (99:43)

That's their.

A (99:44)

Yeah, there are no alcohol. I respect that.

D (99:46)

Haram.

C (99:47)

Good for you. Again, Asians too.

A (99:49)

I got. Here's the thing. I, I think alcohol's nasty. I do not drink. I had a glass of wine a week or so ago because you get.

C (99:58)

Asian flush or whatever they call it.

A (100:00)

Sometimes from the phosphates. Yeah. But, you know, again, I'm only a quarter Asian, but I largely just think it's gross. It does not taste good, and I don't find a reason to drink it. Give me water.

C (100:10)

I feel like it helps people socialize. That's what drinking is done to do when most people drink their drinking to socialize, and it actually really helps them loosen up. I know a lot of people are very uptight, but drinking allows them to probably talk to people or talk to women that they wouldn't ordinarily. That's not to say, go get trashed and go out. That's extremely common.

A (100:27)

I know, I know. And my advice to people is grow a pair.

C (100:30)

Oh, yeah.

D (100:31)

Well, it's, it's not. I mean, I guess that that doesn't make sense, but, like, alcohol lowers your inhibition. That's why men tend to get into fights more when they're drunk. Because normally if you're not drunk or whatever, someone does something and you're just like, it annoys you, but you just brush it off.

A (100:46)

Oh, hey.

D (100:46)

But the, in the, the inhibition is lowered, and so you're just like, oh, well, I'm gonna go hit that guy.

A (100:51)

Will. Will Nancy Mace resign before the midterms? Yes. 22. No. 84. So if I put no, and then. So this is going to clear running for Governor.

C (101:01)

Right. Volume's $2,000.

A (101:04)

It's only $2,000. That means you can barely wager anything. What's the max wager? Okay, you can wait. I want 100 bucks. No, but it's like, that's.

D (101:12)

Why.

A (101:12)

Can we just hit up one of our staffers and learn what the answer is? Probably. Anyway, anyway, before we go to the chats, my main point is I'm, I'm fairly libertarian. A lot of issues. I think if we. The way to describe it is if this nation, if every person in this country was as devout as Seamus Coughlan, you would need no police.

C (101:36)

True Irishman.

A (101:38)

I mean this literally and with great reverence to my good friend Seamus. He is a good man. He is an honest and honorable man and he is a God fearing man. And if everybody believed in what he believed, there would be no need for police. There'd be, I mean, you wouldn't need homeless shelters. You, you, you would have the, you'd have utopia.

D (101:59)

We need no government.

A (102:00)

If then you would need no government because there is a structure of faith, honor and integrity that exists in his worldview. And I mean that sincerely. That being said, we don't have people who are like this and it seems like typically we get policy proposals from these neocons. Now I'm just picking on, on neocons. But the policy proposal of you are you are a 30 year old degenerate. You want to be a degenerate. You were raised to be degenerate. We're going to make it a crime to be degenerate. You know what they're going to do? They're going to find a back alley. What we need to do is find the root cause and our society should be. Guess what, Seamus? I've played blackjack with them and there's no priest, there's no problem. We joke around. We go, we went to the casino, we played a couple hundred bucks, he spiked the table, everybody lost. If you guys know blackjack, we animated. It was a funny story. Everybody had like 13, 14, you know, 13. And the dealer was showing a six. I think it was a six. And we told, we told, seamus, don't hit. And because it's like the deal's got a bus card. And he goes, I'm gonna hit. And then we're like, no. And he hits. And then I think he hit a six. And we were like, oh, thank God. Or actually, no. We were like, oh, wow. Like, good, free. Shame we weren't like, thank God. The dealer, I think Flipped over a three, and the next card was a jack. So we hit 19, Seamus pushed, everyone else lost. If Seamus did not hit, he would have flipped over a 3 for 9, hit the 6 to 15, hit the jack for 25, and everyone would have won. And so we animated that. And he's never lived it down in six years. It's been. It's. It's actually. It's been five years.

D (103:43)

Shame on him.

A (103:45)

But my point is this. There's no problem with Sheamus coming and playing blackjack with us. The issue is gambling addiction is an issue of the. The addicted. And our culture has problems. A casino is great to hang out with your friends, have drinks, play some games, be responsible, don't go crazy. But if we have a culture that is teaching kids bad things, and we do, then you are going to get gambling addiction, alcoholism, drug abuse. I don't think I. I certainly agree with banning some drugs. I think, like, fentanyl is a big problem. It's heavy regulation because they can lace it. You can just die right away. So I think regulation is the best approach to dealing with these things. And if you develop a culture where people are doing these things, then your culture needs to change. But we're gonna go to your rumble rants and super chats, my friends. So smash the like button, Share the show with everyone in your life. Head over to cast brew.com, pick up your doctor Alex Stein's big booty Latina love potion. Alex Stein is not a doctor. And we're grab your rumble rants and the chats right now. Let's see. We got Joey Giggles says, is Trump actually vindicated? If so, arrest everyone else so they can win the midterms, even though it's all fake and gay and we are all going to be slaves to the machines. Well, the good news is, when you're a slave to the machine, at least your brain will be plugged into it.

C (105:05)

Yep.

A (105:05)

And you will get to experience whatever stupid Matrix reality you want. For conservatives, it's a nightmare. For liberals, it's a dream come true.

D (105:13)

They're all going to be in Star wars and Jedis and stuff.

A (105:17)

That's. You saw that video, right? You sent it to me. Oh, yeah. Where is that? Can I play that?

B (105:21)

Yeah.

C (105:21)

What is this?

B (105:22)

I don't.

A (105:22)

You need to see it. Where. Where was it? You sent it to me in Slack.

D (105:26)

I think it was in Slack.

A (105:28)

Let me see if it. No, I think you sent it to me somewhere else. I did a video about. Was a text, maybe. I think you sent it to me.

D (105:41)

It was either slack or a text or maybe I didn't send it.

A (105:45)

You did send it to me. You posted it. I think you might have tagged me or something.

D (105:48)

Okay, that could have been it, man.

A (105:50)

So I, I, I made a pitch where I said to conservatives, would you be willing to give up 80% of your income, 80% income tax on all money you make? And that money goes towards funding pods that liberals can live in where we pump roach protein to their bellies to sustain them and we plug their brains into the matrix where they can live in any universe they want and no longer be a part of society. And everyone in the chat said, yes, I would accept that wager 80% income.

B (106:22)

Tax, whining at an all time long low.

A (106:25)

Yeah. It would just be like. And so somebody made an AI video of like this nice family cooking pie and they're all happy. And then it shows the liberals in Harry Potter universe casting spells being like, can you believe these mega chuds are paying for this? And, and the mega people are like, can you believe we to live without liberals? Yeah.

D (106:43)

So heaven.

A (106:44)

Yep. Anyway, yeah. Oh what Utopia Omega Rosetsu says, what is the difference between communists and fascism? Time looking at the ccp. They act like Nazis. Both are socialism. Emotional socialism is communism. Logical socialism is fascism. I'll stop you there, buddy. Fascism is authoritarian traditionalism and communism is authoritarian progressivism. The Chinese Communist Party are progressives. They want to eliminate their history. They wanted to rewrite their traditions and purge the old ways. Ways. They're authoritarians. The fascists wanted to preserve the old ways. They wanted to men and women, marriage, all that good stuff and social order with authoritarianism.

B (107:30)

Did you develop that thought or. I've never heard anyone describe that.

A (107:32)

That's what it is. That's literally what it is.

B (107:35)

But if you go to the dictionary, that's not what it's going to say. Did you.

A (107:38)

No, that's academically the difference between the two. The feuding factions like the fashion. So first of all, the Nazis and the fascists are different and liberals don't understand this. The fascists were in Italy, the Nazis were in Germany. The communists were all over the place. But when you look at all the communist countries, there are, there are two large components to their ideology outside of the economic functions of it. Because the Nazis were not capitalists. They were, they were, they were not really socialists either, but they were, they were state enforced socialists in a sense. Well, as. How do you describe it? They were a cultural and four Socialist. So sorry. Not state Communism is a State enforcement. Nazis were cultural enforcement. So the way the Nazis operated was you weren't forced by mandate to produce for the war effort, but you'd be canceled if you didn't. So, you know, a Nazi officer would be like, what do you mean Your factory is not producing steel for the war effort? Don't you want to win? You're supposed, oh, no, no, no. We're going to do it. We're going to do it because you're scared of the authoritarians. But the Nazis were famously burning books on gender identity and, you know, being gay. They were very much like. Like traditionalism. The communists, on the other hand, were promoting all that stuff. Nazis, fascists, and communists are all authoritarian systems where there's an absolute control of the group. Their economic systems vary only somewhat, slightly. The fascists were described as being a lucrative merger of corporation and state. This is effectively communism. The corporations worked towards the whims of the state, de facto, the Nazis. It was culturally enforced, where the famous quote. This is from an academic paper that I read about. The issue was that an officer would go to a factory and say, why aren't you producing steel for the war effort? And the pressure was social, not government mandate. Communists, on the other hand, just came by force. And it was largely social as well, but it was basically a part of their ethos. Like, we want to take your private property. If you look at every communist country, one of the things they do is they purge all of their history and all their traditions, and that's a key component of it. So, yeah. All right, let's see. Mytho says Voyager was the worst pre 2015 Star Trek. Voyager is a masterpiece compared to modern Star Trek.

D (109:43)

I didn't want to watch modern Star Trek, guys. Just gonna be such a bummer.

A (109:46)

There's an episode of Star Trek Voyager, very famous, where the captain and one of the shipmates, they travel so fast through space. Okay, so here's the premise of Voyager. Do you guys. Do you know Voyager?

B (109:58)

No. Which season should I start off with, by the way? I'm gonna get my wife into this.

A (110:01)

Well, you start with Star Trek the Next Generation, Season 1. The original series is okay, but all right, you know, we call it tos. TNG is a masterpiece. And Deep Space Nine really, really hits out of the park because it tests the limits of this liberal ideology. I love it. Voyager is silly, but it's okay. So Voyager ended last. Voyager ended like 03. And yes, now it was like 2001. Voyager is about a Federation ship that gets flung on the other side of the galaxy. And it's going to take them 70 years at maximum warp to make it home. And so it's funny. The ship is called the Voyager and they're on a voyage. But the show's fine. It's interesting because it gives you a Federation crew outside of the Federation exploring wild and new things that you're not going to see in the traditional canon. But there's an episode where they're like we're going to do an experimental thing to go as fast as possible. And they go so fast that Captain Janeway and Tom Paris de evolve into lizards, have sex, she lays eggs and then they reverse the de evolution and they re evolve into humans and had babies. That's one of the reasons people are like that show really went yeah, in a weird direction, but it was okay. And the most disappointing thing is that DS9 concluded with very, very profound philosophical implications for the ideologies that Americans believed in of this liberal society and its natural conclusions. That is, I think it's the episode's called in the Pale Moonlight. Famous episode where they false flag assassinate a senator to force them to trick them into joining a war on the federalist inside. And what needed to happen is if they were going to bring back Star Trek, we needed to have the next arc. So the original series happens. The Next Generation says here's what happens after that. And things have changed. And it was brilliant writing. Then Deep Space Nine is within the same time period because the next iteration is like I think it's. It might be 100 years later. Deep Space Nine is literally within the same time frame. And Voyagers as well. They could have done a small time jump again and said here's where we ended up after the Dominion War. Instead they went, let's do a prequel. I'm not watching it. Enterprise was, was bad. I'm sorry. It's okay. But they opened it with some pop culture stuff. They didn't call it Star Trek. Nobody knew it was Star Trek. Nobody wanted to watch it. And then there was this big gap where they did nothing. They did the reboot movies where they created an alternate timeline which was largely cringe. It's fine. They're fine movies. And then they did Discovery, which was prequel. Again, bored. Then they now they're doing Starfleet Academy and there's lower decks. All garbage, all absolute trash. The spiritual successor to Star Trek is the orville by Seth MacFarlane. That is a fantastic show. On the Orville did an episode where there's what I loved about Star Trek, the Next Generation. Is that it was addressing these be philosophical consequences of technological advancement or decision different trees that could have occurred with. With on Earth. Basically they go to a planet where what's a good start to next in tng? They go to a planet where everybody is catered to by an AI. There is a machine that was built by their ancestors that provides for them. They have no idea how it works. They just do whatever they're told. So it's an interesting concept of what would a society be like. And so that's things you get with like the Next Generation. The Orville did an episode where there's an alien race, they're called the Mocklins and they're all male and they lay eggs. And so it's. There's. They're just. It's a. It's. It's. I guess it's still technically sexual reproduction because two males will reproduce and one of them will lay the egg or something. However, as it turns out they actually do have females but surgically transgender them as children to make them male. They find out that one of the guys, his male partner actually was born female but got sex change surgery. And they have an argument where Seth MacFarlane says, you can't sex change kids. It's brilliant. And it wasn't so conservative overt. But the point was made that children can't consent. And it was kind of like a rib. Cause when the show came out we were like, like you kind of know what he's saying. They had one episode where and Christians won't like this one as much. They land on a planet and they use technology to heal a girl's wound. Kelly does. She's the commander. And when they leave, the planet blinks out of space time and then reappears for this planet every time it pulses out of existence. It exists for 500 years, another dimension before returning. When they go back to the planet, they find that because she healed this, this you know, cave woman, they developed a whole religion around her divine healing touch and come to worship her. And it's very Catholic coded. And the, the. They're making a point about cargo cults and what's so the. The spirit again, simple, simple point. Seth MacFarlane was a huge Trek fan and understood what made it good and tried to recreate it to the best of his abilities. And they did three seasons. I would welcome any day of the week them to bring back the Orville because that's unfortunately as close as we're going to get yet. Anyway. I could talk about Star Trek for 27 years. Because it's the greatest show of all time. The Next Generation is the greatest thing boomers ever did for this country. All right, let's grab some more while we're still here. Anybody want to talk about Star Trek again? I'm kidding. What's. YouTube's giving me the business look?

D (115:33)

I'll talk about Deep.

A (115:34)

All right. Deep Space Nine, man.

D (115:36)

So good.

A (115:37)

And I love these. These liberals are like, did you know that? Not liberals, but like commies. They're like, star Trek was a communist country. They didn't have money anymore. And I'm like, in Latin America. Stop it. Latinum and Federation credits, you idiots. You're making things up. You know nothing about Star Trek. Spare me, Ben Brady. It was a post scarcity liberal society, and Deep Space Nine challenged this liberal ethos of being non militaristic. And we're. Oh, my.

C (116:04)

Dude.

A (116:05)

So there's an episode of Star Trek the Next Generation, right? Where all of a sudden there's like a shift and the ship is different now. And Guinan, who's played by Whoopi Goldberg and she did a great job, is she's an alien race and she has a deeper connection and blah, blah, blah, whatever. But she notices something changed. What happened was the timeline shifted because a rip opened up during the attack on Khitomer. You don't need to know anything about this. I'll just give you a quick version. There was an episode of TNG where Star Trek, the vessel is an exploration vessel to boldly go where no one's gone before. They're on a science mission. They have military capabilities, but it's a science mission. In one of the episodes, the timeline shifts where the Federation never had an alliance with the Klingons and are losing the war, and the ship changes to a battleship. And Guinan's like, what's going on? Where are the families and children? And Picard's like, are you joking? This is a warship. There's no children and families on this vessel. And very much so. I loved how some smart people made that show and asked the questions of what our society could or would be like. And then Deep Space Nine brought that to its conclusion. Children should watch that show. I'm gonna make sure my daughter watches every episode five times with me. I'm gonna watch it again, too. It got some stupid episodes, but it's a good show anyway. All right, let's see. We got woke. What is today? Woke.

D (117:29)

Lizzle evil.

A (117:30)

Woke is. Oh, woke is evil. I was like, what are you trying to say? Wokelzable. I highly recommend that you in the chat watch the YouTube doc about the movie Eyes Wide Shut. It blew the lid on the globalist Satanist PDF file cult back in 99 and the director Stanley was killed for it. What I heard about that movie, you guys, you guys ever seen it?

D (117:51)

No.

A (117:53)

Eyes Wide Shut Chief Corey Anderson says. Is it Mr. Bocus? It is Mr. Bocus in an Epstein suit. What is that?

D (118:03)

What?

A (118:03)

I don't know what you're referring to. Sorry. Simple Gunsmith says Ghis Maxwell pleaded the fifth in front of Congress on every question. Seems she knows much more, but also knows the end is nigh. Indeed, I agree with that assessment.

D (118:19)

She doesn't want to incriminate herself.

A (118:21)

So Adam Bauer says. When are we going to talk about how manufacturing in the US Is still in decline? I know it's still early in Trump's administration, but I'm not seeing any signs of improvement. There's no people. The economy is going to implode. There is no answer to it. Immigration won't change this. There are no people. An economy cannot grow without new new workers. So the Democrats told everybody to stop having kids over 40, 50 years, then said, oh no, open the borders to bring in more workers. Now Trump is saying, stop. What's going to happen is, well, no society's ever recovered from this. I don't know what's going to happen. What I can say is Gen Alpha, as I often bring up, is, you know, Gen Alpha is only 42 million. Gen Z is 78. I believe millennials are 80 and Gen Alpha is only 40, 42. So it's about half the size of Gen Z Millennial. This means that right now as gen alpha, they're 50, I believe they're 15 years old. They're about to be entering entry level workforce at 16 and university matriculation. But there's half. This means universities are all going to go to business. There's a principle I've stated before that people need to hear once more. If you have a town of 100 people and there is one, one shoe store, that shoe store is providing shoes for all 100 people. One day they discover gold. The town booms. There's 200 people, but still only one shoe store. He can't accommodate everybody. So what happens? A new shoe store opens up and now there are two shoe stores each accommodating 100 people. Eventually, all of the gold is mined. People begin to slowly leave the town. What happens is you have two shoe stores now, both seeing a decline. They were operating on thin margins already. And now instead of one closing down and 100 people leaving, 100 people leave. And now there are two stores competing for only 100 people. If they need to service at least 90 people to stay in business, they need to steal 40 people from the other store. But guess what? Neither of them wants to go out of business. So they both take out loans, they both accrue debt, they both struggle to survive, they both go out of business at the exact same time. And now your town of 100 people has zero shoe stores. That's how, that's what happens in economies when populations collapse. That is going to happen in every single sector in the next few years.

B (120:44)

It's actually making the housing crisis more difficult to solve because by 2037, I think it's one out of every four homes is going to be basically vacant because of all the seniors that are going to be dying, all the boomers are going to be.

A (120:56)

And the houses will be worthless. Yes, because there's going to be too many and no one will have the money to buy them in the first place. So when the boomers die and the millennials and Gen Xers, but largely millennials, inherit it, because Gen X, actually partly silent generation, inherit these homes, they're not going to be able to sell them because nobody has the money or the equity to take out a loan. So right now, boomers buy houses from boomers off of loans based on the value of the home from boomers. When they die, millennials get the house that's worth a million bucks. Who's going to buy a million dollar house?

D (121:25)

Nobody.

A (121:26)

Nobody. So they're going to say sell it for nine. Nobody. Eight. Nope. Seven. No. Six. No. Five. Four. Oh, four. And the housing market's going to go. Then you add in the fact that there's no Gen, there's no gen alpha. So 40 year old millennials will be like, finally, I can afford a house. Then Gen Alpha is not going to be buying houses. And so millennials will have zero equity in their homes and they'll all be underwater. They will get a $400,000 loan for that house that used to be a million dollars. Be very excited for it. And then the house value will drop to 200,000 because Gen Alpha won't be buying. They will be, but there will be no homes. And so they're going to say, I couldn't sell this home if I wanted to, But I owe 400 grand on it. Welcome to being underwater. Ain't gonna be pretty, my friends. We're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. It's gonna be@rumble.com timcast irl so we we hope to see you there, good sir. Do you want to shout anything out?

B (122:24)

Fatherswanted.org check it out. It's a great documentary and I think it'll change some lives times.

C (122:30)

What's up everybody? Thanks for tuning in. I am a lot Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here. You can find me on social media at Alad Eliyahu, thanks for tuning in.

D (122:38)

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A (122:58)

We will see you all@rumble.com Timcast IRL thanks for hanging out.

C (123:21)

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