Timcast IRL Podcast Summary: "IT WAS A HOAX" w/ Terry Schilling
Date: February 11, 2026
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Terry Schilling (American Principles Project), Phil Labonte (All That Remains), Elad Eliyahu (White House Correspondent)
Overview
This episode of Timcast IRL centers on new revelations in the Jeffrey Epstein case, the release (and credibility) of associated files, conspiracy theories versus institutional failures, and the weaponization of both legitimate and fake information in the public sphere. The crew also explores political strategies, the feminization of institutions and workplaces, degeneracy debates around society and gambling, and broader culture war issues—often through their trademark banter, references, and irreverent humor.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Breaking News: Epstein Body "Hoax" and Conspiracy
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Fake Body Scheme: New files allege Epstein jail guards staged a decoy body to distract media after his death. A white van was loaded with boxes and sheets to mimic Epstein’s body while the real body was discreetly transported in a black vehicle ([06:16]).
- "Why did they put a fake body... to trick reporters?" – Tim ([07:45])
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Skepticism & Critiques:
- The hosts agree the idea makes little sense, increasing, rather than suppressing, conspiracy thinking: "It really is just an absolute... cornucopia of things for the conspiracy theorists to buy." – Phil ([11:20])
- There's discussion of an official press release pre-dating Epstein’s death, and photo discrepancies (Epstein’s nose/ears) fueling further doubt.
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Fake AI Photos & Internet Hoaxes: The existence of convincing AI-generated ‘Epstein spotted alive’ images, and the impossibility of now proving the official narrative to skeptics ([16:07]).
- "My point is, you wouldn’t know [if the photos were real]." – Tim ([16:20])
- "We are so far down the rabbit hole..." – Tim ([16:20])
2. Institutional Failures & Bill Barr’s Role
- Responsibility: Guests criticize former AG Bill Barr for "bungling" oversight, leading to a lack of trust:
- "It could only be worse if Bill Barr got caught trying to like, do a Weekend at Bernie's with Epstein’s body... This is so pathetic." – Terry ([12:37])
- Discussion clarifies Barr's authority and the expectation of higher standards with such a high-profile prisoner ([13:09], [15:10]).
3. Weaponization of Information, Political Grandstanding & Distraction
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AI and Trust Crisis: The danger of AI-generated misinformation is highlighted—“you can’t even tell them we've... saw them remove the body because they're gonna be like, nope, that's admittedly a hoax.” ([12:36])
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Political Uses: The group addresses how both parties manipulate allegations for gain and distraction:
- The files include “absurd” claims (e.g., Tony Hawk implicated due to name confusion, [52:43]), yet genuine leads go ignored, further muddying the waters.
- "People are desperately using this to sling mud at Trump... and of course it’s just a wild goose chase." – Elad ([58:22])
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Trump as Informant?: Reports emerge that Trump allegedly reported Epstein’s crimes as early as 2006, calling Ghislaine Maxwell “evil,” and possibly acting as an informant ([05:14],[50:05]).
- "I think Trump was an informant against Epstein..." – Tim ([52:43])
- The group debates whether Trump’s hesitance to release files is to protect innocents, himself, or to use “the one ring” of leverage.
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On Releasing the Files: Big praise for Reps Thomas Massie & Ro Khanna for their bipartisan push to publish Epstein documents, but frustration that names remain unreleased and justice appears elusive ([62:39]).
4. Broader Cultural & Political Commentaries
"Feminization" and Workplace Culture
- Helen Andrews Thesis: The theory that as organizations become more female-majority (even at ~30%), they become “woke” because of shifts in how complaints and group decision-making are handled ([37:43]).
- "When a system's internal workforce becomes majority female, it inherently becomes woke." – Tim ([37:44])
- Male/female differences in workplace camaraderie and joking, with the group lamenting hypersensitivity stifling normal male interactions ([41:07]-[44:12]).
Generational Attitudes, History, and the "Nazis Everywhere" Trope
- Commentary on the overuse and dilution of “Nazi” allegations in political discourse, and how this affects youth perspectives on history and ideology ([25:06]-[26:54]).
- "If you call everyone a Nazi, if Milo Yiannopoulos is a Nazi and Hitler is a Nazi, it's... a ridiculous comparison." – Phil ([25:06])
Culture War, Degeneracy, and Solutions
- Gambling as a microcosm of personal liberty versus societal harm. Arguments over personal responsibility vs. regulation, with Tim ultimately advocating for cultural solutions rather than bans:
- "If everyone believed in what Seamus believed, there would be no need for police... you'd have utopia." – Tim ([101:36])
- "The availability of gambling is not the problem. The cultural rot is the problem." ([89:26])
- Alcoholism and gambling stats are debated, with Elad arguing the largest share of profit and harm comes from addicts; Tim disputes this with anecdotal and experiential examples from the casino world ([84:22]-[88:20]).
5. Notable Lighter Moments, Running Bits & Pop Culture
- Chickens and Masculinity: Tim explains the "pecking order" in chickens, relates it to gendered group dynamics, and describes his lucrative "Chicken City" livestream ([44:48]-[48:41]).
- "Most people ... think if you put two roosters together, they kill each other. That's not correct..." – Tim ([44:56])
- Star Trek & Orville Rants: Passionate digressions on the philosophy of Star Trek, liberal pipe dreams challenged by reality, and new woke shows ([29:59]-[36:50], [109:43]-[110:01]).
- "Deep Space Nine was the last Star Trek show ever made... it proposed what would happen to a liberal society [when] confronted with war." – Tim ([29:59])
- Gambling Prediction Markets: Discussion on the ethics and potential manipulation in prediction markets like Kalshi and Polymarket. Tim marvels at the “free money” available to news junkies and the cultural weirdness of betting on real-life outcomes ([66:21]-[83:19]).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On Institutional Cover-Ups:
"The worst part about this whole Epstein saga is there's so many legitimate criticisms to make of the investigation... so many of these strange little inklings that give a lot of credence to conspiracy theories." – Elad ([08:25]) - On Media & Misinformation:
"We are so far down the rabbit hole already..." – Tim ([16:20]) - On Cultural vs. Legal Fixes:
"I have no problem with gambling or prediction markets. I have a problem with gambling addictions, and we should get these people help." – Tim ([84:04]) - On Over-Regulation:
"Instead of addressing the issue of what children were being given, they said, just take the thing away as adults. And that didn't work." – Tim ([93:51]) - Philosophical Takeaways:
"If every person in this country was as devout as Seamus Coughlan, you would need no police... you'd have utopia." – Tim ([101:36])
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Epstein Hoax/Body Double: [00:00]-[13:09]
- Bill Barr’s Responsibility & DOJ Critique: [12:37]-[15:10]
- Discussion of AI Misinformation: [16:07]-[17:11]
- Culture War, Gender, and Institutions: [37:43]-[44:45]
- Chickens, Pecking Order, & Masculinity Metaphor: [44:48]-[48:41]
- Star Trek and Wokeness Rant: [29:59]-[36:50], [109:43]-[110:01]
- Gambling, Prediction Markets, and Degeneracy Debate: [66:21]-[101:12]
Conclusion
This episode delivered quintessential Timcast IRL content: blending timely news (Epstein revelations) with meta-political analysis, pop culture, and societal commentary, spiced with irreverence, humor, and deep-in-the-weeds banter. The hosts and guests challenge official narratives, bemoan cultural rot, and advocate for skepticism, personal responsibility, and cultural renewal.
Shout-outs/Plugs:
- Terry Schilling’s documentary: fatherswanted.org
- Phil Labonte’s band: allthatremainsonline.com
- Follow Timcast IRL for more unfiltered news and culture analysis.
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