IT'S GETTING WORSE w/ Chrissie Mayr & Adam Johnson

Summary

Timcast IRL - "IT'S GETTING WORSE" w/ Chrissie Mayr & Adam Johnson

Date: February 6, 2026
Host: Chrissie Mayr (for Tim Pool)
Guests: Adam Johnson, Phil Labonte, Ian Crossland, Carter Banks

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Main Theme:

A frank, fast-paced roundtable dissecting recent events: attacks on public officials over political fears, radical responses to immigration crackdown, the medical and cultural fallout of rapid gender-affirming care in minors, free speech and the repercussions of online rhetoric, escalating U.S.-Iran tensions, and ongoing national discussions over faith, tradition, and American identity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Foiled Attempted Murder of Trump’s Budget Chief (Russ Vought)

• Overview: A Maryland man, Colin DeMarco, is charged with attempted murder after seeking to confront OMB Director Russ Vought at home over Project 2025 (a Heritage Foundation conservative policy plan).
• Media Coverage & Motivations: The group laments the lack of mainstream coverage, suspects ideological media “fear-mongering” plays a role.
  • Phil Labonte [08:14]: "They [the media] frame... any conservative policies as if it's the end of the world, as if it's going to attack minorities, that it's somehow motivated by evil instead of some attempt to manage the national debt."
• Project 2025 Hype: Consensus is that the plan’s contents aren't radical, but the left's portrayal has driven "psychosis" in some.

Memorable Moment:

• Chrissie (sarcastically) [06:36]: "He was in the leftist costume of gloves, sunglasses and surgical masks. So at least he was protecting himself."

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2. ICE Operations and Community Backlash in Minnesota

• Mass ICE Deployments: Trump’s Operation Metro Surge brought thousands of ICE agents to Minneapolis, igniting protests and blockades.
• Community Response: Locals created roadblocks to "protect neighbors", but the panel mocks their effectiveness:
  • Adam Johnson [30:34]: "If they spent the same amount of time building forts with their kids, the world would be a better place."
• Violence & Threats Against ICE: Noted antifascist activist Kyle Wagner arrested for direct threats towards ICE agents, doxxing and incitements on social media.
  • Ian Crossland [24:48]: "No, I think they're actually developing psychosis through media manipulation... They truly believe it, whether they're right or not."
• Panel Skepticism: Majority of residents are described as likely annoyed, not supportive; many fear social repercussions for not displaying solidarity.

Clippable Humor:

• Chrissie [30:35]: "Yeah, this looks like a garage sale to me."
• Adam Johnson [33:43]: "We'll just refer to them as trash people from now on."

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3. Transgender Surgery Malpractice Verdict in New York

• Landmark Case: Jury awards $2M to a detransitioned woman who had double mastectomy at 16, citing inadequate psychological assessment before surgery.
• Industry Critique: Discussion about money, social pressure, and the "affirm only" model overriding therapeutic caution.
  • Phil Labonte [42:08]: "You can’t just get surgery and then say, 'Okay, I'm fine.' You need drugs for life. So there's a big incentive from pharmaceutical companies."
• Social Contagion & Silencing: The negative social consequences for detransitioners and whistleblowers are examined.
  • Chrissie [43:12]: "From love bombing you to completely ostracizing you."
• Medical Associations’ Response: ASPS's new guidance to defer surgeries on minors is seen as insufficient—calls for true accountability.
  • Adam Johnson [50:06]: "They're only saying it to save face... They'll get right back to it the second that we stop talking about it."

Notable Quote:

• Phil Labonte [44:55]: "Doctors are never like, 'Okay, we're going to cut your hand off and that’ll fix your problem.' Cutting off body parts never fixes a disorder."

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4. Culture Wars, Free Speech, and the Fallout from Online Rhetoric

• DEI Chief Fired: UCLA DEI leader Jonathan Perkins fired for celebrating Charlie Kirk’s assassination, now crowd-funding for pets.
  • Chrissie [56:55]: "Being brown and having a position. That was his whole job. His whole job—just don’t hire white people."
• Crowdsourced Dissent Database: “Charlie Kirk Data Foundation” compiling those who celebrated or condoned Kirk's murder online.
  • Adam Johnson [59:02]: "Complete false equivalency. Charlie was sitting in a chair having an open debate and was murdered in cold blood."
• Double Standard in Online Speech: Panel points out hypocrisy in treatment of left vs. right speech.

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5. Faith, National Identity, and Trump’s "One Nation Under God" Event

• Trump’s Rededication Plans: Announcement to "rededicate America as one nation under God" at National Mall in May.
• Panel’s Musings on Faith: Spirited debate on American Christian identity, religious roots, the rise of secularism, megachurches, and the nature of genuine belief.
  • Phil Labonte [67:19]: "Secularism won because of the weakness of faith leaders... watering down of the Bible."
  • Adam Johnson [64:44]: "No, I think we're all sinners, and without grace, we would all continue to be sinners."
• Cultural Implications: Mixed feelings on religious pluralism and the value of faith for social cohesion.

Memorable Exchange:

• Ian Crossland [63:01]: "You look at it from one angle, you see a God man... the other angle, you see a flow. It's like a particle-wave duality."
• Phil Labonte [63:10]: "I think Christians look at it differently..."

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6. US-Iran Tensions: Americans Told to Leave Iran

• Breaking News Segment: State Dept. issues alert for citizens to leave Iran immediately, coinciding with nuclear negotiations.
  • Chrissie [79:39]: "I run out of there."
• Panel Analysis: Speculation abounds about imminent strikes, proxy wars, and the risk of regime change. Discussion touches on civilian support for regime change vs. the realities of deep-state entrenchment.

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7. Military, History, and American Power

• US Military Prowess: Debate over what constitutes "victory" in wars like Vietnam; consensus on tactical dominance but strategic/political dysfunction.
  • Phil Labonte [93:29]: "The US doesn't lose military engagements."
• Humor and Camaraderie: Frequent light-hearted interjections about military ships, cruise ports, and loud praise for America’s armed forces.

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8. Community Q&A and Personal Segment Highlights

• Fans share birth announcements, pet condolences, and humorous super chats.
• Adam Johnson campaigns for Manatee County Commissioner, highlighting local efforts for civic change.
• Carter Banks teases new music project and invites listeners to Timcast’s Discord.
• Friendly banter about faith journeys, the value of hymns and megachurches, and owning one’s personal and family growth.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------|---------------| | Attempted attack on Trump official | 04:51–14:50 | | ICE ops & Minnesota resistance | 16:46–35:00 | | Trans surgery malpractice verdict | 35:50–54:33 | | UCLA DEI chief firing, social media | 55:28–59:35 | | Trump’s faith event & religion debate | 59:57–75:15 | | Iran evacuation news & analysis | 77:43–90:48 | | US military discourse, Vietnam, wars | 92:25–98:32 | | Community Q&A, personal calls | 99:10–End |

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ian Crossland [24:48]: “I think they're actually developing psychosis through media manipulation...they truly believe it.”
• Phil Labonte [42:08]: “You can’t just get surgery and then say, ‘Okay, I’m fine.’ You need drugs for life.”
• Chrissie Mayer [30:35]: “Yeah, this looks like a garage sale to me.”
• Adam Johnson [50:06]: “They're only saying it to save face...They'll get right back to it the second that we stop talking about it.”
• Chrissie Mayer [79:39]: “I run out of there.”
• Adam Johnson [64:44]: “No, I think we’re all sinners, and without grace, we would all continue to be sinners... That's the whole premise of Christianity.”
• Phil Labonte [93:29]: “The US doesn't lose military engagements.”

Note: Many moments are peppered with irreverent, edgy humor and camaraderie, reflecting the panel’s free-speaking, sometimes biting tone.

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Tone & Language

• Straight-talking, unapologetic, sometimes sarcastic or irreverent
• Balanced between serious political/cultural analysis and comedic banter
• Culturally conservative, liberty-minded, anti-establishment perspective

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Summary Takeaway

This extra-lively episode delivers a whirlwind tour of the week’s biggest flashpoints in American life: partisan violence, grassroots border confrontations, the ethics of youth transition medicine, the boundaries of online speech, faith’s role in national cohesion, and geopolitics in the spotlight. The guests provide sharp, unscripted takes—tempered with humor and a surprising undercurrent of unity around the need for accountability, rational discourse, and returning to values rooted in faith and community.

The episode is a must-listen for anyone wanting a raw, in-the-trenches view of America’s current crossroads, unfiltered and unbowed.

Transcript

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[Chrissy Mayer]

Hey, everybody. Chrissy Mayer hosting tonight for Tim Pool. Welcome to Tim Cast irl. Tonight we'll be talking about a Maryland man charged for attempted murder for Trump's budget chief Russ Bought over a fear of a fascist takeover. Also, Minnesota citizens have joined together, banded together to form a blockade against ice. But guess what? You can't stop ICE because the Iceman cometh. Also, we'll be talking about a New York jury awarding $2 million to a teen girl who formerly identified as male, the first ever of its kind in a malpractice case. But before we kick it off, let's introduce our very special guest, Adam Johnson. The lectern guy, the podium guy. My fellow ginger.

[Adam Johnson]

How are you doing?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Chrissy, tell the people who you are.

[Adam Johnson]

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[Chrissy Mayer]

Awesome.

[Ian Crossland]

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[Carter Banks]

I'm Carter Banks, multi instrumentalist and producer of music At Timcast. Got a new song out this evening at midnight. We'll talk about it later. But yeah, pumped to be here. You can follow me at Carter Banks.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, before we get started too. And we're going to go to Phil here in a second. I wanted to, I, I said I was going to do this. Pump out the Discord. If you guys haven't been to Timcast.com yet and signed up to become a member, do it. And then on the left you're going to see Discord is one of the links. Click there. Join the Discord because that's where we go live. Before we get started on IRL, about 6:30 we do a pre show where we interview cast members. It's really cool. And then of course after the show we've got the late show uncensored on Rumble. So you go there. Timcast.com Sign up. Join the Discord. The link is on the left. Thanks a lot, Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

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[Chrissy Mayer]

And we're back. Now we can talk about this. A Maryland man was charged with attempted murder for targeting Trump's budget chief Russ Vaught, fearing a fascist takeover. Gee, do we think the mainstream media is covering this? I doubt it. Colin DeMarco allegedly appeared at the residence last August wearing gloves and a surgical mask. He's a 26 year old man facing attempted murder charges after allegedly traveling to the north Virginia home of the Office of Management and Budget director Ross Vaught with the intent to kill him. According to court records and law enforcement sources, Colin Demarco was arrested on January 22 by the Arlington county police and is charged with multiple offenses. He's scheduled to appear in court Feb. 23. Court documents identify the intended victim only as R.V. described as a presidential appointee. Sources familiar with the case confirmed the target was Vaught. Ian, does this sound to you that things are heating up? I mean, we've had. How many attempted murder events do we need before? I mean, do we think something. It's gonna take another. Something horrible happening before. I mean, can we crack down on this, you know, preemptively, or is it just we have to let it play out?

[Ian Crossland]

You can't really crack down on it till after it happens, unfortunately, which is why politics isn't the best piercing mechanism to stop stuff. I think it really is up to the job of people in the media, like you said. Is the mainstream media even covering this? We have a duty sitting on a show like this anytime you go live, anytime you talk to the world to de escalate these things. You said this happened late January, so that was like two weeks ago this happened. A lot has changed in two weeks, but it's definitely indicative of, of a trend that I've seen.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He was in the leftist costume of gloves, sunglasses and surgical masks. So at least he was protecting himself.

[Adam Johnson]

From COVID I thought they typically wore unicorn outfits and hammers.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, the office of the CBO is not a particularly high profile part of the federal government. You know, so I wonder if this guy has some kind of problem that he sees with the funding of something like something that he, he. If a family member was getting that got cut or something like that. Because again, usually if, if someone's going to go after a member of the, the, the administration, they're going to go after someone that's a little more high profile just because they, they want the attention. You know, the director of the cbo, it's, it's not like most people don't know.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, Position.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, exactly. Most people don't even know what the CBO is. Right. Congressional Officer, Budget Maintenance. Like, it's not very high profile. So I, I wonder what his motivation is. I wonder why it was rust. What that he picked out maybe something.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He cared about, got doged away or.

[Adam Johnson]

I wonder if it's reminiscent of Luigi as well, because I was going to.

[Carter Banks]

Say Luigi Mangine situation.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, he's trying to be like a wish dot com. Luigi Mangione. Well, investigators say DeMarco later admitted to going to the residence to confront vought over Project 2025, a conservative policy initiative associated with the Heritage Foundation. He denied having a weapon or intending to harm anyone. Well, I guess there's our answer. All that propaganda coming to a head, it seems, it's just, but even the, you know, the.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly like this says, you know, Project 2025 was, was a think tank thing.

[Carter Banks]

It's kind of old too.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, there was. The left was freaking out over Project 2025. And if you honestly like the stuff in Project 2025, like, I didn't read a whole lot of stuff in it that I didn't like. Most of it was like pretty boilerplate conservative type stuff. So I think the, actually to Ian's point, like, you know, the, the way that the media kind of portrays any kind of cuts or any, basically any conservative policies, they, they frame it as if it's the end of the world, that there is some somehow going to attack minorities. It's somehow motivated by evil as opposed to, you know, motivated by trying to maybe, you know, manage the, the national debt, balance the budget, those kind of things. So it could be just a situation of this guy got riled up by the media.

[Adam Johnson]

This really is juxtaposed to what Virginia is trying to pass those, you know, know, 20 some odd bills they tried to pass this past couple of last month.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Adam Johnson]

And some of these things were like, you know, full term abortions. We're not going to have anyone outside the polling places enforcing, you know, immigration status. I mean, they actually are proposing things that are actually evil. Project 2025 says we're just going to follow the Constitution and the laws that are on the books, make sure we enforce them.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, again, like, like I said, there's, there's nothing that's particularly offensive in Project 2025. You know, it's, it's pretty boilerplate conservative stuff. So I'm not sure what it was that he actually had a problem with. Again, it's a pretty big document. Like there's a lot of, a lot of things that they talked about, but it was still just an outline of things that conservatives would like the federal government to do, they'd like to see the administration do. It wasn't some kind of, you know, guarantee that it was even going to happen by the administration, you know.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, the most Remember of Project 2025 is mainly just Trump having to denounce it eventually because they were trying to come at him with.

[Phil Labonte]

But this, yeah, because the way the left characterized it was, it was, you know, it was, they were going to take away all your rights. It's going to be what's that stupid movie they always dress up in, the red dresses tale. It's going to, you know, throw women under the bus and, and all of this stuff because they were, it's going to make us a Christian nationalist nation and blah, blah, blah, you know, doing all the fear mongering stuff. And, and obviously that has not come to pass. It's in exceedingly unlikely that it will come to pass because that's not even Donald Trump's like that, Donald Trump's not that guy. They want people to think that he's some kind of evangelical or what have you because the evangelicals support him, but evangelicals support him largely because he appointed conservatives to the bench and discord us and, and got, you know, Roe versus Wade overturned. It's not because they're like, man, that guy's, that guy's got a wholesome family life. Everyone's aware of, of Donald Trump's sordid past. And the evangelicals are looking at him and they're like, well, it's better than trans. And the kids.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He's never pretended to be a perfect Christian man. He's even been reported once saying, like, I don't know if I would go to heaven. Like, I don't know, I don't know if I'll make it in. But he's still, he's still a 90s Democrat, right? 90s, 90s liberal. You know, my favorite reason to watch Home Alone too, honestly.

[Phil Labonte]

But I mean, to your point, like, if you look at the stuff that he Talks about when, when he's talking about immigration. These, these policies that, that we have now, they were all passed with bipartisan support.

[Adam Johnson]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

And they're the exact same policies that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, all the Democrats 15 years ago were like, this is how, how we're going to deal with illegal immigration. We're going to build some kind of barrier, we're going to build a fence, we're going to do all this stuff. And then after, kind of the, after Barack Obama's first term and woke kind of sensibilities took over the country, that's when it was like, oh, these things are velo. And you can't talk about building a barrier. Oh, there. No one's, no one's illegal on stolen land. And, and there aren't, there should be no borders in the world. You should be able to travel freely, blah, blah, blah. I mean, even Bernie Sanders said, look, the, the, the, the, the no borders, the, the, the every illegal immigrant coming in, that's a, that's a Koch brothers policy. And then I'm against it because it hurts the workers in, in America. Like that was his policy position for the longest time until, you know, those, those two women of color got up on stage and kicked him off of his own stage.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh my God, he got stood up. Apparently the law enforcement officials did, they did find drafted notes referencing a manifesto, a weapons stash and a dike and a document titled Body Disposal Guide.

[Phil Labonte]

Smart, vague.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I mean, you got to title that something else.

[Ian Crossland]

Like nothing. Like don't have a title on the.

[Phil Labonte]

Book at least like someone else is.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Titled, I don't know, Christmas Wish List. I don't know.

[Adam Johnson]

He bought a small pig farm.

[Chrissy Mayer]

A search of his, a search of his icloud account allegedly revealed references to firearms, including a.357 Magnum cult revolver. Revolver. Partial search of his residence. Did not recover weapons, but probably tons of anime. Just kidding. Complaint also cites social media and discord messages in which DeMarco allegedly expressed violent thoughts towards Trump. Surprise, surprise.

[Phil Labonte]

And.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And discuss locating Vought's address. Yep. And like you said, he reportedly admired Luigi Mang.

[Carter Banks]

Oh, really?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yep.

[Carter Banks]

Wow.

[Adam Johnson]

Wow.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Gay.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

So gay. So, so gay. I love the Mario.

[Adam Johnson]

I love the article here. It says fully preloaded.357 Magnum. What does that mean, fully preloaded? It's either loaded or not.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, that's like six bullets max, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Sounds like an adult film.

[Ian Crossland]

Insinuating he was going to unload the gun.

[Carter Banks]

No, the Hammerback.

[Chrissy Mayer]

This is a family show, Carter.

[Ian Crossland]

Preloading it and kind of indicates that he's intending to use it.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

If you preload a weapon that's. You're doing it for a purpose. If you're just loading the weapon, it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Doesn'T mean preloading and loading. It's like pre boarding and boarding.

[Carter Banks]

So, I mean, he had an extra, like, six bullets in his pocket or.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know. I'm not, I'm not.

[Adam Johnson]

It just goes down to write these articles have no idea about firearms or anything whatsoever. Preloaded. They'll say as a weapon.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Post Millennial, this is a very highly regarded.

[Adam Johnson]

So what. What is a stat?

[Phil Labonte]

Preloaded probably meant it was loaded when he got picked up. So he loaded it before he wasn't. He didn't show up and. And have an empty gun with bullets on the side and was going to load it on scene or whatever. Most likely you're right.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I thought men liked to unload themselves before a date.

[Phil Labonte]

Any. Anybody that carries a gun or whatever, like, you're gonna have it loaded, right? Like, the last thing you want to do is be like, oh, I need a gun.

[Ian Crossland]

Let me.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, So.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, wow. Yep. And court record records state DeMarco previously told law enforcement he feared Trump's reelection would lead to a fascist takeover.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

In November of 24, he was detained under a guess what? Mental illness emergency petition after telling police he wanted to die following the election. All right, get in the pile with everybody else. Just move to Canada. Move out of the country. I'm going to die. I can't survive. Trump won Tales Oldest time song as old as tune.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, Trump won the popular vote. So by definition, these people who are coming out here doing these things, the people who are doing the violence against ice, they are the actual fascists because we won the popular vote. Everything that's happening right now is what everyone voted for in majority. So we are, by definition, not the fascists.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I brought up before, like, I voted for Trump actually this time, particularly because I wasn't going to vote for Kamala Harris and the imperial candidate being without a primary. But I didn't vote for carte blanche with Trump. I voted to give him the authority to do the deportations, you know, secure the border. But if he goes haywire and starts commanding people to massacre dudes on the streets to collect all the. I'm going to speak up against it. Still, like, so he still has a threshold of decency of, like, you know, he's got to meet legality, he's got to meet morality.

[Phil Labonte]

It sounds like you're coming out in support of the guy that was going after Russ Boyd.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. You're like, he had some good points.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I'm just saying the rhetoric of Trump got the popular vote, therefore everything he does is fine. Is not. It's a fallacy. You know, he still has a threshold of things he can and shouldn't do.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Well.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, he's limited by law.

[Adam Johnson]

He's followed the, you know, federal judges who are, in my opinion, should just be overlooked. And also just an interview, I think it was today or last yesterday, where he said he's calling, he's calling the mayors, he's calling the cities. He's asking permission to come in there. So he actually is doing things, I think, pretty amicably. You know, he's not forcing his way into places. But we have problems.

[Phil Labonte]

Just because the narrative that the left puts out is that Trump is some kind of fascist dictator doesn't mean that Trump has even broken the law. Right. Like, there's nothing that Trump has ordered anyone to do that's illegal.

[Chrissy Mayer]

But the, but the right will come out and say, oh, I can't believe we're, you know, he's giving up, we're losing. He's calling, you know, he's, he's recalling those ICE agents, you know, you know, out of Minnesota. This is terrible.

[Phil Labonte]

But I think some of those people.

[Ian Crossland]

Are like radicals or like extremists that have nothing to lose on the right. Like, there's people on the left, obviously, you'll see that'll go out. And Mangioni, for instance, potentially nothing left to lose. Desperate. But the people on the right are like, you're not hitting it hard enough, Trump. Like, who are they? They're from keyboards. All. I don't never see like a really prominent, very rarely right wing personality demanding, like blood on the street or harder. It's pretty rare because that will put the eye of Sauron on you as a speaker. So it's just in these texts.

[Phil Labonte]

Younger. Well, younger people, Younger people want to see more out of Trump. Like you. I mean, people like Nick Fuentes, they want to see more out of Donald Trump. Like he want. He thinks that Trump's dropping the ball and not going nearly hard.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, yeah. America first people. All his, his followers.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but to the, to the point about, you know, like, the idea that Trump isn't doing enough. Like, look, the p. There are people in, in Minneapolis. Will Stancil's in Minneapolis and he was, he tweeted, he was saying, for all the drawdown, Ice Talk continues all over Minneapolis feels endless. Like Homan is smarter than Bavino. No real feat there. He says he understands that if he does stuff that signals that we're in the dentment of the crisis, media will move on. But brutality with observers is escalating. ICE is still omnipresent. Little sign on the ground that it's over. You know, like we said, 2,300 ICE agents is still a massive increase from over. You know what it was? I think it was 300 or something like that.

[Adam Johnson]

They had.

[Ian Crossland]

I heard the number 70 last night.

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe it was three maybe. But, but even still, like it's a, it's a huge increase. So even if, you know, 700 people.

[Carter Banks]

700 down media, but they're still there.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And that, that was an argument that me and Sean were having last night. Like Sean thinks that he should, they should be showing people that the, that were carting people off and they're getting deported. Like he was talking about making this.

[Chrissy Mayer]

TikTok of everybody getting thrown into a.

[Carter Banks]

Into a truck for a little while.

[Phil Labonte]

And my point was like if do it without anyone seeing it, without anyone knowing that it's going on, just so long as you're, you're, you're, you're following the law, you know, just so long as you're doing it legally. But if you can do it without all the bluster and without all the protests and without all the fighting, that's the best option.

[Carter Banks]

Well, it's crazy because like Stalin went and did this stuff in the middle of the night. So not to alarm the population, like we're doing it in broad daylight, which is arguably more transparent than anything you bring up.

[Phil Labonte]

Stalin. It's exactly why I specified, made the caveat of. Within the law and stuff like that.

[Ian Crossland]

Totally.

[Carter Banks]

That was also legal.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, by the way. Exactly.

[Ian Crossland]

Stalin made it legal to do what he did in the middle of the night in silence. So it's a double edged sword. I know what you're saying because you don't want to inflame the populace with scaring them with media of dudes getting dragged away. But at the same time I think you don't want to hide the darkness if it does get.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not. Hold on, I got to push back on that. I think equating what's being done with ICE in the United States today to Stalin is vastly overstating it.

[Ian Crossland]

I didn't equate it.

[Phil Labonte]

You were using it as an example.

[Ian Crossland]

It's not an equation. They're not the same thing. But I'm saying if it got to that point where it is, I was.

[Carter Banks]

Using it very bad as an exact opposite, to show that something being done in the dead of night is secretly being done and, you know, clearly wrong. But the fact that Trump's doing things in the daytime for everyone to see, it's way more dangerous for ice. But it just. He's not breaking the law.

[Adam Johnson]

Biden was flying people in the middle of the night all over the country when he was in the regime. He did plenty of things in the middle of the night.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We could get Barney to come out and be like, clean up, clean up. Everybody everywhere. Clean up, clean up. And he's throwing the illegals back under the truck.

[Adam Johnson]

I read today that J.D. vance is heading up an audit in California, that he was put ahead of this. I think at some point you're going to have limited returns in Minneapolis. I know they've already deported tens of thousands of people out of there, and there will be limited returns. So I like the strategy of you go into a place, you hit them hard, you hit them fast, you get a lot of people out of there, and then you move somewhere else. You do it somewhere else, because we know that it's happening all over the country. So I like this drop ship, bunch of people, get a bunch of work done, go somewhere else. Don't let them catch up. Don't let them have enough time to organize and put people together to put up barriers and riots.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Get a couple thousand of the worst out of there. And, you know, that's better than nothing.

[Phil Labonte]

You can always go back if there's more. You know, it's not like. It's not like that. You know, you go into. Into Minneapolis one time and. Oh, sorry, we already did that. We can't go back.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, it's your house, Daddy. You can come back whenever you want.

[Adam Johnson]

Let them feel safe in combat, too.

[Ian Crossland]

They'll hit a target and then they'll wait like two hours until everybody comes out to try to start to do the recovery. And then they hit the target again to get everybody. And that's what they could do with ice. They go in, they hit the target like a.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Like wait till a donkey punch. Sorry. I.

[Ian Crossland]

Round two.

[Phil Labonte]

Is it really like that?

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay.

[Adam Johnson]

You just track the sales of rice and bananas. You'll know when they're coming back out.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Maybe I have to look up what that is again. Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

You're watching the supermarkets to see. To see if the population's increased, I guess.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Speaking of Minnesota. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it's. It continues on and On. Minnesota activist Kyle Wagner was arrested and charged with threatening ICE agents. This is from the. From CBS News. A Minnesota activist was arrested Thursday and charged with threatening to assault and kill Immigrations and Customs of Enforcement agents, the Department of Justice said. Prosecutors alleged that Kyle Wagner, 37, shared comments and videos to Facebook and Instagram last month and encouraged his followers to attack federal immigration officers where he called them gestapo and murderers. He is expected to make his initial appearance in federal court on Thursday. Thursday. Photos were taken on Thursday. They appear to show Wagner being led out of a residential building in Minneapolis.

[Phil Labonte]

Wow. Is that real? Yeah, it's real. That's his picture.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That's.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He looks exactly as I expected.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm surprised that he doesn't. He, he doesn't, he doesn't look like. He's not dressed like a lawyer. I really kind of expect that.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Those tattoos of tears. Why, Why a face tattoo? You're just never going to get a job that way.

[Phil Labonte]

You're not a rapper.

[Adam Johnson]

You're not Post Malone.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. You are not on the run.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. I don't know. But I'm glad they got, they wrapped him up.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He's not somebody in your band, Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no.

[Adam Johnson]

They probably had a hard time identifying him with his hoodie that says I'm antifa.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Chrissy Mayer]

You got to leave something to the imagination, sir. Oh, boy. Yeah, look at that. He, he certainly wore the right sweatshirt.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

I think that's him. I'm going to look it up. I'm going to try and find this guy.

[Adam Johnson]

I like this. Again, this phrasing, antifa is short for anti fascists. Loosely organized left wing movement or ideology. Do they not have an entire signal chat that government officials who are part of?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they do. I mean, I'm not. I, I assume everybody in the signal chat would call themselves antifa. They would say they're anti fascists in the, in the broad sense of the term. Whether or not they would, you know, you know, be going to, to like meetings, flying the anti fascist flag, I'm not so sure about that. But I mean, at the end of the day, if you're in a signal chat with a bunch of people that are antifa that call themselves antifa, likely a whole bunch of communists. I mean, if you were in a signal chat with a bunch of Nazis that call themselves Nazis, they'd be like, you're a Nazi. So you know, you're like, look, man, if you're sitting at the table, he.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Was threatening ICE agents. He was Stating we're effing coming for you the following day. He allegedly encouraged his followers to, like many of our leftists, politicians harass immigration officers and we should cripple them anywhere we have an opportunity to get their. Our hands on them. We need to put our hands on them.

[Phil Labonte]

It's so funny. He's like, we're coming for you. And they're like, no, we're gonna come and get you, buddy. Picking a fight with the government. Look, if. If you got a problem with the government, you go and you go to court, you sue somebody, this kind of stuff, they're just gonna come and pick you up. There's going to be a bunch of dudes wearing green. They're going to have more guns than you. They're going to throw you in jail. Don't be stupid.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Ian, is this just larping so you.

[Adam Johnson]

Shouldn'T storm a capitol.

[Phil Labonte]

You were, you were just moving things around.

[Ian Crossland]

What was the question?

[Chrissy Mayer]

I said, ian, do you think this is just. Just larping at the end of the day?

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know.

[Chrissy Mayer]

These people think they're revolution.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I think they're actually developing psychosis through media manipulation. A lot of that's this guy. A lot of people are. They truly believe it, whether they're right or not. You know, they really believe it. So it's actually not a larp for this guy. This guy actually thought he was doing the right thing.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He's pushing others to hunt. The immigration officer said his goal is to unmask and identify the agents. It's just scary sounding stuff. In one of his social media posts from January 13, he allegedly said, minnesota is where ice has come to die. And if he was a clever man, he would say, where ice comes to melt.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah, we want to know who they are.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We will identify every single one of them and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. He said.

[Carter Banks]

Wait, what?

[Chrissy Mayer]

This is what he. The guy is saying.

[Carter Banks]

He said that.

[Chrissy Mayer]

The unhinged mentally ill tattooed man.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

How can you prosecute them if you kill them?

[Chrissy Mayer]

A citizen's arrest.

[Carter Banks]

Only in Georgia, though.

[Adam Johnson]

It's a terrible manifesto.

[Chrissy Mayer]

If it has to be done at the barrel of a gun, then let us have a little effing fun. Yeah, this is. This is just unhinged.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe it's tough to like the line between live action, role play, the larp and psychosis is kind of like blurry. Like if you're an actor, you're kind of psychotic. You become someone else for a moment, which is psychotic. So there are a lot of people that think it's cool and they're just along for the ride.

[Carter Banks]

They like that. When they go home at night, do.

[Ian Crossland]

You think maybe they totally tune it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

All out and go, he says, get your effing guns and stop these effing people. In a Facebook video. Facebook. He's showing his age with that.

[Phil Labonte]

It sounds like he's writing a hardcore song. Yeah, yeah, like some hardcore band. Like, you know, he's like that. You can. You expect to be him to be like straight edge, you know, or something.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Pam Bondi said in a statement that this man allegedly docs and called for the murder of law enforcement officers, encouraged bloodshed in the streets, and proudly claimed affiliation with the terrorist organization Antiva before going on the run. But you know what, Adam? At least he didn't pick up a podium and walk around smiling.

[Adam Johnson]

Truly the worst crime you can commit in this country. Truly. Truly.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Today's arrest illustrates you cannot run, you cannot hide, you cannot evade our federal agents. If you come for law enforcement, the Trump administration will come for you.

[Adam Johnson]

Unless you do it on an island. Too soon. Too soon.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Caroline Levitt said the Trump administration would hold accountable anyone who illegally obstructs these law enforcement operations or target or targets, doxes or harasses ICE agents. And you know what? I think Trump said recently, they're going to start making sure all the agents have body cams, which can only help them. It helps the guy that was that shot, Renee, Good, ultimately, because we could see, oh, well, the car definitely hit him.

[Adam Johnson]

So I think the difference too, between the ICE agents and these people like, like Wagner here, ICE agents, I don't think they go out, wake up a nine to five and think, I hope I get to kill someone today. They have to live with that forever. This man woke up on a regular basis. I hope I get to kill someone and I hope other people kill people. Like, it's a completely different ideology.

[Chrissy Mayer]

You think he would have tried out to be an ICE agent? Just kidding. Protests have broken out in Minnesota in response to Operation Metro surge. That sounds like a new energy drink. Which the Trump administration launched in December to ramp up immigration efforts, enforcement efforts in the state. More than 3,000 immigration agents descended on Minneapolis. And we, as we mentioned before, borders are announced Wednesday that 700 law enforcement personnel would withdraw from Minnesota. Yeah, we mentioned all that. Let's check out this video, shall we? This is about the. The blockade.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, right there. Spawn.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Here we go. So, yeah, Minnesota residents have taken safety, safety into their own hands by forming A blockade to do CH points to check for ICE agents. We are literally creating a place that we know who's coming and going in and out of our neighborhoods. In the middle of the road at 32nd and Cedar Avenue, a makeshift roadblock turned this intersection into a roundabout. That is so sad. Horror slowed as drivers noticed. Some honked, others asked questions, and one man brought food for the people standing wide. How did it make you feel just seeing a community checkpoint in your neighborhood?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, you know, it. It felt fine. I didn't. I don't.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Is she Somalian?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't have to afraid about it. Yeah, exactly.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Wade Haynes has been standing at this corner twice a day. I'd be like, girl, you should go hide. To stand up against ICE activity and keep his community safe. He chose this corner. Others chose this intersection.

[Phil Labonte]

She's kind of inspiring. I was like, wow, okay, we've got. We've got folks out there who are kind of taking care of us, looking out for us. That's good.

[Chrissy Mayer]

But Minneapolis police stepped in clearing the roadblock.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that guy's terrified that if he.

[Ian Crossland]

Spoke out, he'd get flo.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Honestly, I'm kind of sad about it still. Residents say the roadblock was necessary. We need to keep our neighbors safe, so we will be doing this.

[Adam Johnson]

We need a border.

[Phil Labonte]

We need a wall.

[Adam Johnson]

Interesting fact. Her jacket was actually all orange. The top half is just cat pissed.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Now, Uber, go back to the leering center.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

You want to watch this? All right.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yes. To ensure public safety for the neighborhood and emergency vehicles. Frank.

[Ian Crossland]

All right, Uber. Thank you.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

She's definitely Somali.

[Phil Labonte]

Uber.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Looks like a DEI hired me.

[Adam Johnson]

Was that from today?

[Ian Crossland]

That video from today? Yesterday. Yeah, because they're breaking. I hear the cops are breaking up these. These makeshift stop gaps.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That's a pretty sad blockade. Yeah, they probably just told everybody, look, take a. Take a bunch of garbage from your house, just like a traffic, and bring it out into the street.

[Adam Johnson]

If they spent the same amount of time building forts with their kids, the world would be a better place.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, this looks like a garage sale to me.

[Carter Banks]

It's just I build stuff sometimes, but I would never use, like, a pallet like that for the wood. It's just not good.

[Phil Labonte]

Take it apart first.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, well, I mean, even that.

[Phil Labonte]

Then you can use the lumber.

[Chrissy Mayer]

But, you know, it sounds like the local residents support this. And, I don't know, do you think it actually makes them feel safer, Phil? Or is it just. They're just saying what they feel like they have to say because that's where they live.

[Phil Labonte]

Apparently that guy is out there standing around saying, you know, I have a problem with ice as well. He had some kind thing on his. On his house. I'm sure there are a handful of people or whatever that agree, but the average person that isn't involved isn't. Doesn't want to get involved in this. I'm sure they're like, oh, Jesus, these guys again. You know, they look at them and they think, you guys are. This is stupid. I. I got to get to work. I gotta go.

[Ian Crossland]

I gotta.

[Phil Labonte]

I gotta pick up my kids. You know, normal person stuff. And it doesn't help. It doesn't ingratiate you to the community. You know, it just makes people, like, annoyed with you.

[Adam Johnson]

How many think go along with fear, though, Because I know, like, when it was George, when George Floyd, who was the guy who didn't kill him.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Derek.

[Adam Johnson]

Derek. Yeah. Well, during his trial, they were intimidating the jurors.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

And these jurors, like, you know, they're going to convict because they're. They're getting doxed in real time. I wonder how many of these citizens in Minneapolis are just like, yes, we're definitely with that because we don't want to have our house burned to the ground. We saw the same things happen during the BLM riots. People will put up signs like, we're.

[Ian Crossland]

We're allies.

[Adam Johnson]

We're allies. Store's still getting looted.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We're black on. Don't loot.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And they still got a. A, you know, rock through their window or what have you, you know?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So, I mean, I think that you're right. I think there's a lot of people that. That are in. Out there just kind of, you know, doing their best to keep their head down. If they're asked, they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. And then at home, they're like, oh, these people are stupid. You know, if they. I don't know how much it actually affects the average person. It's probably just lightly annoying, you know, mildly annoying. Like this stupid.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We live here.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. You know, cool. These. These morons are out there doing this again.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's like living wherever the groundhog lives every groundhog's day, you know, like, where does Punxsutawney Phil live?

[Phil Labonte]

Somewhere in Pennsylvania.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Pennsylvania. Yeah. I'm sure those residents every year like this again.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. But I mean, the point that I think that they're just like, oh, you know, this is annoying. And. And because it's not.

[Carter Banks]

Drive through a children's fort on your way to work.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, it is.

[Ian Crossland]

I've learned being here. I do like traffic circles. I'm starting to really enjoy traffic circles.

[Carter Banks]

I finally understand why they have those.

[Phil Labonte]

They're so much better than lights. They're so much better than stop signs.

[Ian Crossland]

And like, so these people are probably like, hey, finally, this four way stop is now.

[Adam Johnson]

Just keep driving. As Manatee County Commissioner, I do not condone these statements. We hate them in the county. They're all going away. We're bulldozing them.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Wouldn't have been great if during this video you saw Nick Shirley going around. What do you do for work? Anybody here work?

[Phil Labonte]

No, of course they don't. They don't. They're, you know, they don't have to.

[Ian Crossland]

Work collecting government pensions.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, it's. It's tiring collecting checks from the government.

[Adam Johnson]

I think it's funny they have that much trash just laying around.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, it is. Throw your trash away, people.

[Adam Johnson]

We cleaned out our living room to build this, this barricade.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They're really, they really think they're gonna stop ice.

[Phil Labonte]

Like pallets from the Walmart sees them.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They're just gonna be like, all right, well, we'll turn around, we'll go to the next block.

[Adam Johnson]

We'll just refer to them as trash people from now on. Oh, look, it's the trash people again.

[Carter Banks]

To the center for the trash man to pick up.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, the police picked it up and I'm sure that they threw it in the garbage. So they were doing the.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, they got a good work. They got to clear that stuff. I mean, like, has anybody ever been to the George Floyd Memorial in Minneapolis? The shittiest.

[Carter Banks]

Twice last week.

[Adam Johnson]

You mean the one God struck down with lightning?

[Chrissy Mayer]

It is so bad. It looks like everybody just exactly like that blockade brought their garbage into. It's. It's right at that corner where the Cup Foods was, which they had to rebrand, which I think was a mistake because it's like I went there to take a selfie in front of the place. I'm like, it's not cup foods anymore. They called something else. But it's everybody, I guess it started out as a George Floyd memorial, but everything is like, sun bleached and wet. It's a bunch of like wet old teddy bears and picture frames. And then it slowly became like, just like a memorial for whoever. Like everybody's. I know someone who died. I don't. And it's a mess. There's no one's keeping it up. There's just like dead plants everywhere. It was like, it was Pretty disgusting. They should build a fort to keep it from getting wet. But I don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not a memorial. It's emblematic of what happens to socialist societies.

[Adam Johnson]

Decaying.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It just was a sad sight. And blocking the street.

[Adam Johnson]

And I heard he has a family member there, George Floyd's family that actually charges Bill 20 take pictures there. So if you go there to take.

[Chrissy Mayer]

A picture, free, fun. Not really a family destination, but, you know, if you're in the neighborhood, I should try that.

[Adam Johnson]

Go there. I'm actually his brother. $20.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We went into the cup foods and bought, like, a bunch of different, like, wrap chips. Like, they had like. Like dmx, Fritos, Cardi B Cheetos. Like, we bought a bunch of them, and it was me and my friend, like, posing with, like, orange and grape soda in front of them.

[Adam Johnson]

This tastes like herpes.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It was a tasteful moment.

[Phil Labonte]

You paid for it with a real 20, right?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, we all bought Lucy cigarettes. It was fun. It was a fun day.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Oh, boy.

[Chrissy Mayer]

So don't listen to me, guys. Okay, let's move on. Guys, guess what? I don't know if this is a shock to anybody, but trans surgery turns out it's bad. Did we know this? Did we have any inkling? So, New York, and this is exciting because this happened in my neck of the woods in. In Westchester County, New York, jury awards $2 million to a teen girl who formerly identified as male in a malpractice case. In what may be the first of many such cases, I hope a New York jury awarded millions to a woman who no longer thinks of herself as a male who underwent a double mastectomy six years ago at age 16. So this woman began her, I guess, social transition at 15.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Brutal.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And so this is in Westchester County.

[Adam Johnson]

They can't even admit it in the headline.

[Chrissy Mayer]

No, I know they don't call her D Transition.

[Adam Johnson]

So the dude literally sued one $2 million, and they're still calling him a woman in the headline after saying, I'm not. This. This thing was done wrong, wrongly.

[Chrissy Mayer]

To me, it was a girl who transitioned to. To be a guy. Yeah. I think her name is Fox Varian. A woman who no longer thinks of herself as male underwent double mastectomy six years ago. And this is going to be the first U.S. malpractice case of its kind to reach a trial verdict. The jury found a psychologist and a plastic surgeon liable for medical malpractice, which I think they all should be liable for this. In performing and supporting the 2019 breast removal surgery. On variant in order to treat gender dysphoria. The award includes 1.6 million for past and future pain and suffering and 400000 for future future medical expenses. According to the Epic Times. And this is out of EWTN News, by the way. Varian lawyers said she no longer thinks of herself as male and said she sued claiming psychologist Kenneth Einhorn Finkel and Einhorn and surgeon Simon Chin Finkle.

[Phil Labonte]

Perfect name for this story to meet.

[Chrissy Mayer]

The standard of care through inadequate psychological evaluation, poor communication between the professionals and insufficient screening before proceeding with the irreversible procedure. I mean like, are any of these medical, medical professionals who do this? They're all, they're all failing to, to do their jobs. Basically nobody should be doing surgery on a minor, period. The case centered on whether the properly assessed her mental health and readiness for gender affirming surgery, marking a significant development in the growing number of such lawsuits. The legal team. And it sounds like she's got a good legal team around her. And I hope this is just the first of many more.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, it's crazy that went to a jury trial and everything.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

This can be like the future lobotomies. People been saying it for a long time. Oh yeah, this is the lobotomies of the modern day. Yeah, it's just, it's like abhorrent, man. It's disgusting. We're doing this.

[Adam Johnson]

I have to assume the parents were on board with this. And it didn't start at 16. Well, this probably started a lot true a lot earlier on.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, the mother said that she felt like she was being bullied by the, by the psychology.

[Chrissy Mayer]

She was never into the idea.

[Phil Labonte]

She wasn't into the idea. She said that she felt she was like she was being bullied. She felt like it was rushed. And so that, I mean that's a big part of the problem is it's not just that that kids are saying this stuff because they're, you know, reading stuff on the Internet or they have their friends that are talking about it or whatever, their parents that are like, no, I don't want this to happen to my kid. You know, I don't, I don't think this is a good idea. And then the kids, you know, end up somehow getting in, getting to a psychologist or whatever and the psychologist is, is just affirm everything they say. Because the, the argument that is made on the left is you have to affirm. You can't say, well, maybe this is something else. Maybe, maybe, maybe this is just an awkward face or whatever. You have to Affirm the things that they say. And if you don't, you're gonna be. You're gon. From the LGBT lobby coming down on you like Matt, you know, in the 90s with this.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, sorry. Do you have more?

[Phil Labonte]

No, go ahead.

[Ian Crossland]

With the. The opium opiate epidemic with, you know, Sackler family and. And all this. But it was about the medical industry converted into treating pain, and they had to treat the. The patient's pain instead of their. Their illness. So if the patient was like, I'm in pain. I need more medicine, the doctor was obligated then to give the medicine, or they would be committing malpractice for not acquiescing to the patient's pain. And it's the same kind of thing, the mind state, that if this kid's in pain, that's more important than what's right. We have to make their pain go down. So let's just do.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's emotional pain, though. It's like, it's. Guess what it's called puberty. We all are awkward in our bodies between the ages of 10 and 30. I don't know, for some people. So it's called just. Just wait it out. And studies have shown that these surgeries do not reduce suicide, which is precisely what. What psychologists will manipulate parents with. They'll say the old. The old line of, do you want a dead daughter or a live son? And people will just throw their hands up like, okay, I don't want my. My kid to unalive themselves. So it's just very sad. But this is very exciting to see, and I hope. I hope things just ramp up. And this is the first of. Of many more cases like this.

[Adam Johnson]

I would tell. I tell my kids, I would disown them. They know that clearly from me. You make that decision, like, don't bother coming home for Christmas.

[Chrissy Mayer]

This is harsh, but necessary.

[Ian Crossland]

I think this is gonna send a chill and a shockwave down the spines of many psychologists that will be nowhere near this kind of behavior in the future.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. Because if they claim, oh, it's for the good of the kids, it's for the good of the kids. Yeah. Okay, how about you agree to do it for free? Like, how about all these psychologists and all these surgeons, if you want to do it for free and prove that you're really helping these kids, okay. But we know it's not about that. We know it's about their commission and making customers for life.

[Adam Johnson]

That's it. And it's also. These programs are fun. It's. My background is Psychology. That's what I studied in college. And you talk about the irb, the National Review Board, how they do studies. These things are funded top down, and they actually want to put money into it because they're getting money out of it. So they do their studies. Next step is, well, we ought to practice things in real life. Money gets pushed into that. So I don't really. I don't know necessarily if these psychologists or these doctors are on board with doing these things or if it's just a paycheck. We're going to fund the hospital for doing this. This. We're getting funding for research. I. I just. I think they're evil for that.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's just a paycheck.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They don't care.

[Phil Labonte]

And to Chrissy's point, you know, the, the idea that they get a patient for life or that. Or the drug companies get a patient for life. You can't just get a surgery and then be like, okay, I'm gonna go off on my way and I'm gonna be fine. Like, you still need to be on. On hormone replacements. You need to be on all kinds of drugs for the rest of your life. So there's a big incentive from. From pharmaceutical companies to. To have these surgeries. Obviously, the people that are doing the surgeries are making a lot of money. The. There are people that are ideologically committed to this. And we were talking earlier, it's only like about a 10 detransition rate. And the. Part of the reason for that is because of the. The authorization that comes, because the lobby, the LGBT groups that people usually associate with when they're trans, they will disown you. You will get all kinds of crap on. You know, you'll be. You'll be inundated on Twitter. People will call you names. And so there's. There's a lot of pressure to stay. Even if you're not happy, it doesn't make you happy. And that's probably part of why suicide is so high. It's like, I thought this was gonna make me happy. And then when it doesn't, they're like, well, I can't go back because I'm just gonna get excoriated on the Internet.

[Chrissy Mayer]

From love bombing you to completely ostracizing you. And I'm sure there are far more d. Transitioners. It's just like, they're not statistically measurable. And a lot of the reasons why these kids, particularly autistic girls, are drawn to this social contagion is like, oh, wow, like, I'm gonna Get all this attention. I'm gonna like, like, finally feel good in my body. I'll finally, like, have my place, right? I'll look at how glamorous they make it look on YouTube. All these, you know, all these influencers that, that they follow.

[Phil Labonte]

So, you know, and, and another thing we're talking about this morning, the, the rates of body dysmorphia. So like, like bulimia and anorexia, they've gone down significantly, whereas trans girls have. Or trans boys has. Has gone up. And it's a. Been quite, you know, it's been.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Not. If you look at Ariana Grande, I think she's holding down those stats all by herself.

[Adam Johnson]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

But, but yeah, like the, the, the idea that this isn't body dysmorphia, right? That it isn't just kids that feel uncomfortable in their body. Like, to your point earlier, like, that's clearly what it is. And, and the, the medical industry, which is supposed to take care of people, has jumped on the fact that kids are insecure, they feel awkward, and they, they're like, oh, we can take advantage of this. We can capitalize on it. So it's, it's, it's nefarious and pernicious in multiple ways. And I think that the first of all, the government should have always been saying, no, we're not gonna. This is, this is wrong. This is that you're not doing this. The only time that you will tell a person that this solution for your psychological issue is actually changing your body is this. Like, if someone says, I, you know, my hand's not my hand, it's someone else's hand. I know it's not my hand. And I.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Well, if you sit on it for a period of time, I'm told it doesn't feel like your hand called the.

[Phil Labonte]

Strange doctors are never like, okay, well, we're going to cut your hand off and that'll fix your problem. It doesn't fix the problem. You know, they still have that, that, that disorder. And so, you know, cutting off body parts never fixes a disorder.

[Chrissy Mayer]

If you need any more proof of how demonic this is, look no further than what's been coming out recently in the Epstein files. They talked specifically about, about grooming, creating basically trans kids, specifically for sick, twisted adult fetishes. And they, I mean, if you want to do deep dives into that, like, they. Epstein cites like, specific examples of, like, of why we need to create. It's so disgusting and it's so, it's so absolutely demonic. And I just can't wait for this chapter in human history to be over soon enough. And the first medical major medical organization actually comes out against trans surgeries for minors. This is out of the National Review. The American Society of Plastic Surgeons released new guidance on Tuesday cause cautioning physicians against performing gender transition surgeries on minors, marking a significant breakthrough for critics of the procedures who have long called on major medical associations to be transparent about the harms associating with medicalizing gender dysphoric children. Exactly what we've been talking about. And so many of these kids just need therapy. A lot of them have been abused and that's why they hate their.

[Carter Banks]

So long is my question.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Like money?

[Phil Labonte]

Because partially because like the whole woke thing that was going on for the past decade or so, like, if you said no, kids don't need to transition, you were called all the bad names. People really have grown. Like, really, they've been desensitized to words like bigot, racist, sexist, because we've had to. Because that's been used to bully people into being silent. And when you're seeing stuff like this, right, like, you have to speak up and say, look, this is wrong, you know, but most people are not used to being called names and they're not used to the vitriol. And if you say something like, if you've got a Twitter account, you got 50 followers or 100 followers, and you say something and it gets someone on Reddit notices it, and the next thing you know, your mentions are full of people, you know, 200 people or whatever calling you all these names. It seems like everyone in the world is beating you up, whether it be Twitter or Facebook or, or Instagram or whatever. If you normally get 5 comments on a post and you put up a post and there's 200 replies, it seems like so overwhelming. People aren't used to it. So it's like it was an effective tactic to just pile on and basically scare people into silence. And so it's a good thing that people have kind of grown a bit thicker skin, but they're, you know, it's a learning curve. People have had to realize that this is not, you're not a bigot for saying, hey, this is wrong, that it's just like, hey, you have to speak up and there are going to be people that are going to call you names and say stuff, but you have to ignore them because it's not true.

[Chrissy Mayer]

You know, And I think just like with the changes we saw with men and women's sports, remember how long people were Saying like, why is no one standing up? Why are there no female athletes standing up? And then we had. What's her name, the blonde?

[Ian Crossland]

Riley Gaines.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Riley Gaines. And they were like, okay, she's the face of this. Okay. And unfortunately, it seems like it has taken a certain number of D transitioners, you know, girls to come out and.

[Phil Labonte]

Be like, chloe Cole.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, Chloe Cole. I'm a victim of this. And unfortunately, that's, I think what people needed to kind of really wake up and see, like, yeah, these surgeries don't cure anything.

[Ian Crossland]

I think this is a result of allowing psychotic ideology to take root whenever it started. You know, 2012 is when Internet video, 2010 is when it really started becoming normalized. And this is what the reason it took so long to unwind this and to get people to is because it entrenched for seven years. In the buildup, you can't let psychotic ideologies entrench. Or you can, if you let them take hold, then you'll get ostracized for speaking out against it later. But if you get it right away and you show people how crazy it is, it usually the immune system kicks on and squashes the ideology. Because if someone had trans the kid in 2010, a little kid that got her boobs cut off by 2014, she's 20 years old and she's crying, right?

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, I guess to see the full like brunt of what has happened takes a few years or a decade. But yeah, it's pretty big that this huge medical company's coming out.

[Adam Johnson]

So it's the ama, it's the American Medical association. And just to make a point here, they're not coming out against it completely. They're saying for minors. So back in 2020 and 2021, the AMA launched the National LGBTQ Fellowship Program in 21, providing up to $750,000 grants to academic medical centers to train physicians in trans gender affirming care, including cross sex hormones in pediatric and adolescent patients. So it's not like they're against this. So they're, they're trying to make. They are still on your side. They have been funding at set at a 3/4 of a million dollar grants for hospitals to do these things. For the past four years. They've not changed their tune. All they're saying is, oh, it's not popular right now. And I'm telling you right now, they'll get right back to it the second that we stop talking about it. So I don't want to give them any or credit whatsoever.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Democrat wins. Like the next election, the next day.

[Adam Johnson]

The very next day, we'll start right back up. So I give them exactly zero credit for saying this. They're only saying it to save face and to say look, we're the good guys. Please. Keeping us money.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I tell you, a lot of even people that are registered Democrats that I know think it's psychotic that they cut off 15 year old girls boobs. Like it's crazy.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And the hormones like just damage you for life. Like you're. Even if you get off of it, your voice is permanently deepened as a girl and it's, it's not something you can just snap back from. It's not just a pause button on puberty. Like that's how they sell it to you.

[Ian Crossland]

So you say, Adam, you're saying the AMA came out and did grant. Are they still funding those grants?

[Adam Johnson]

This is as of from 20 to 2025 funding initiatives. So yes they are until today, till 2025. So last year. And I'm sure the grants will still keep going through. They'll just reword them to say we're not doing the kids anymore. I know the majority of the population are the children that we help trans over the past four years.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And this is a quote from the New York Times in. In the absence of clear evidence, the AMA agrees with the ASPs that surgical interventions and minors should be generally deferred to adulthood. The statement said explicitly. Other prominent medical, including the American Academy of Pediatrics, said on Wednesday that their positions on gender related surgery for minors remains unchanged.

[Phil Labonte]

That's so grotesque.

[Ian Crossland]

I imagine that that position was. It's fine or am I wrong?

[Chrissy Mayer]

The guidance from the American Academy of Pediatrics for health care for young people with gender dysphoria does not include a blanket recommendation for surgery for minors, Dr. Andrew Raskin, the group's president, said in a statement. The AAP continues to hold the principle that patients, their families and their physicians, not politicians, should be the ones to make decisions together about what is the best care for them. But you know what, you know who's going to be motivated to make that? The money is our. Are the physicians.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. And the parents feel like they get steamrolled by like we were just saying five minutes ago or eight minutes ago, they get to feel like they're getting sped through this. Like it's a, it's like a.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It sounds like what they're saying is like don't let the politicians stop us from making money. Stop. Stop us from transing your kids.

[Adam Johnson]

I think it's probably A smaller percentage of the parents who are being steamrolled into this, and a larger percentage of them saying, look at me, I'm an ally. I'm going. I'm so far into my leftist ideology that I will literally sacrifice my child to the cause.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, that's really sick.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, and you see this in. Obviously, see. You see it in Hollywood so frequently because it is. It is really like a. I guess, a luxury. Luxury belief. You know, kids out there, they. Their friends trans or are trans or what have you, and so they start saying, oh, well, maybe my kid is. I mean, I forget what celebrity it was, but she was like, oh, both my kids are trans. And it's like, really?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Angelina Jolie. I think Charlize Theron, God, really, so much.

[Adam Johnson]

Got like 12 kids. So, I mean, statistically, one of them's.

[Ian Crossland]

Gonna be transaction hero. She had a couple of trans kids and she.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, Jamie Curtis. But, you know, the idea that you have two kids and they're both trans, what are the. Statistically, that is impossible. You know, it's. It's coming from somewhere, and it's certainly not.

[Adam Johnson]

It's child abuse is what it is. I think we should call it exactly what it is. It's child abuse. And, you know, I'm. I'm not in favor of taking children away from families, but if you're abusing your child in an irreparable way or you are cutting off their bits and pieces, I think you should be.

[Chrissy Mayer]

You know, you're harming them for life, sterilizing them. It's. It's a re. It's a real pickle we're in. Jeez, It's. It's the things I want to say.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a big step for the AMA to change position. That's big. That's good.

[Adam Johnson]

They're still practicing it, though, with adults, so they're still affirming. These children, they tranced, so they're not taking a step back and saying what we did the past four years is a bad thing. They're still taking care of them as if they.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Well, then.

[Carter Banks]

Then they would lose the lawsuit immediately. Maybe they're hanging on because they don't want to say anything incriminating, I guess.

[Adam Johnson]

Good. The AMAs are racket anyway, so.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And again, I feel like these. Again, it's another place for the TDS to flow. Right. Like, oh, Trump is taking away money. It's just because. Let's go back to that article. Sorry. In December, the federal government proposed new rules that would deny federal funding to Hospitals that provided medical treatment for trans youth. High profile hospitals in blue states, including Stanford Medicine and Kaiser Permanente, have stopped providing gender related surgical procedures to minors, citing funding concerns. I mean, if that's what it takes, cut that money, yo.

[Ian Crossland]

They're doing it for money in the first place.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And other hospitals in D.C. and LA and Pittsburgh have shuttered their youth gender programs all together, you know, good.

[Phil Labonte]

The, the idea there's people out there that will still make the argument on the Internet or whatever. Well, you know, we don't do this to kids. We don't let kids do this. This, you know, and, and you'll show them something like this and they're like, no, that's not real. Or, or something like that. They just don't believe that it's happening.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Were they saying it's not happening? And it took how many people calling up the hospitals, calling up the specific departments, being like, hey, can you. I have a 14 year old, or I have a 16 year old that wants XYZ surgery. And they're like, okay. And they. I mean, there's so many recorded calls.

[Adam Johnson]

Even in the place, even in the states where it's been made illegal. These hospitals, I've seen these phone calls. They'll call and the staff will actually say, you can't get it done here, but I can recommend a place just over state lines.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

Which. Yeah. Yikes.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Gross. Gross. Demons, Demons. Demons are amongst us.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yep.

[Chrissy Mayer]

All right, let's move on to another topic that's maybe more upbeat. Nope, they're not. That's kind of UCLA. UCLA's DEI. Oh, this is a little exciting. DEI chief finally fires is out of the New York Post. Finally fired for celebrating Charlie Kirk murder. But now he's begging for donation donations for pets. Oh, boy. UCLA finally fired its DEI chief months after the woke administrator publicly celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But now he's begging. This seems not like it's not real. Jonathan Perkins, who is the UCLA Director of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, was finally given the ax in a letter on Friday after he gushed that he was glad about the vicious murder of the Turning Point USA founder. Given the nature of your role as Director of Race and Equity, the university has determined that this conduct significantly undermined trust in your leadership and adversely affected the office's effectiveness and credibility. The university told him in a termination letter obtained by the LA Times. And there he is. He looks exactly as you would expect.

[Adam Johnson]

Do not donate this man jars of peanut butter.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Which is shirt that says stop shooting it. Yeah, keep this man Away from the peanut butter, making a lot of money. His last day on the payroll, guess how much money he made a year? $137,000 a year.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Doing what?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Being brown.

[Adam Johnson]

Hiring white people.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Being brown and having a position.

[Adam Johnson]

That was his whole job. His whole job. Just don't hire white people.

[Ian Crossland]

Wow.

[Carter Banks]

Stop from saying something about Charlotte.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. Yeah. All he had to do is just keep his mouth shut. He was terminated on January 30, according to the letter. It's not clear what took the university so long to make its determination. Perkins intends to file a lawsuit, of course, challenging his dismissal, claiming he was exercising his right to free speech when he made the. You know, when the left celebrates Charlie Kirk's death, it's free speech. But when Ben Bankus on a. On a comedy club stage makes fun of Renee Good, well, that's hate speech, and he deserves to have all his shows canceled.

[Ian Crossland]

Clearly, free speech just means you're not going to get arrested for it. You can get fired anywhere. Ostracized from any community for saying stuff.

[Chrissy Mayer]

So many people celebrated Kirk's death. It's. It's absolutely insane. Politicians, lots of comedians, lots of regular people. A lot of car videos came out after that. After Charlie Kirk's death. Thousands. Yeah, thousands flagged online after cheering Charlie Kirk's death. Who. I mean, who's flagging them?

[Adam Johnson]

A lot of my friends. Big shout out to mostly peaceful memes. You did a great job. Lobster.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, well, that's good. That's.

[Adam Johnson]

Follow him on Twitter if you don't. You probably already do.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Let's see. Did. Did you want to jump to this article?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, I mean, we're starting on it now.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Okay, so an online group known as the Charlie Kirk Data foundation out of Axios. An online group known as the Charlie Kirk Data foundation is crowdsourcing a database of social media users who purportedly criticized the late conservative activist or celebrated his death. Why does this matter? The anonymous organizers say their goal is to clear out left wing radicals and reshape the rank and file of America's institutions. They claim to have identified over 60, 000 people.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

That's the number. That's what I wanted to show is 6, 000.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's a lot. That is a lot. Yeah. Do you think there were that many people on the right saying anything about Renee Good.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

No. A lot of us didn't care that much.

[Chrissy Mayer]

No, we're just like, oh, yeah, she's being an a hole. And it's also.

[Adam Johnson]

It's an extreme false equivalency. Charlie was sitting in a chair having an open debate and was murdered in cold blood by a psychopath.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

He wasn't fighting federal agents.

[Adam Johnson]

No, he wasn't trying to run over a federal agent.

[Carter Banks]

He was trying to exercise free speech.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Adam Johnson]

Complete false.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Dog in the car. Didn't even have a seat belt on.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Which is.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That's just what I think about that dog. So Anyway, he made 137k a year. Perkins. He's gonna file a lawsuit. He claims it's free speech. And none of this shocks me.

[Adam Johnson]

Maybe Renee Good just mistook. Mistook the ICE officer for a curb. The joke is because women hit curbs.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, right. It's true.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

I got it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We're terrible drivers. Yeah. Maybe she was just trying to parallel park. Who knows?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Anywho.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

We just don't do this.

[Chrissy Mayer]

This is so exciting, guys. This is a win for. For religious people in this country. From. This is a tweet from Eric Daugherty. Just in. President Trump announces that on May 17, we will rededicate America as one nation under God. On the National Mall. The room erupts and cheers. Christian nation, American flag emoji. You can't. Let's. Let's. Let's play a little bit of Trump's.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

Converts. And also the number of people going to church every week to support this exciting renewal. This morning, I'm pleased to announce that on May 17, 20, 20, 26, that we're inviting Americans from all across the country to come together on our National Mall to pray, to give thanks and to. We are going to do something.

[Phil Labonte]

This is like, screw the teleprompter.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

That's tough.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I love those moments.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

Rededicate America as one nation under God. You know, a lot of people.

[Chrissy Mayer]

This would have been the first time. Perfect time to say Jesus Christ is king. But, you know, I would say usa. Usa. Too.

[Adam Johnson]

Close to midterms. Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

It's USA time.

[Phil Labonte]

I. I can't help but think that he looks like a cartoon character right there.

[Carter Banks]

He does that thing where he, like, does a full side profile.

[Phil Labonte]

Looks the both ways.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

True. Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Looking at everybody. Thank you for the flaw.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

That's what I mean by. That's what I mean by. The spirit is so incredible to see it. I see it so much. I never seen it.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Most of this video is standing ovation.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Please feel free to get up and clap again.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

A good portion standing out. It's crazy, really.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

10 months. We're 12. But now it's just getting to a level that we've never reached before. As a country. But that includes religion. I mean, and maybe that's part of the reason that we're doing so well. There's great. Such great spirit. It's all spirit. That includes religion. I've always said you just can't have a great country if you don't have religion. You have to believe in something. You have to believe that what we.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Religion helps too.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

There has to be a reason for it. We're all working and we're doing. We're behaving. I mean, I behave because I'm afraid not to. Okay.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't want to put that on a shirt.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

He's like, I'm getting old. I gotta. I gotta.

[Ian Crossland]

I gotta.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, I gotta schmooze. God, I love that he said that.

[Ian Crossland]

It's. He's feeling. It's really an uplifting in the spirit and that religion is part of that. I'd like that I align with that mentality. I think that religion is after. Is an afterthought of spirit that the spirit really is in all of us, flows through everything, whether it's a magnetic force or some unforeseen momentum.

[Phil Labonte]

But the Holy Spirit.

[Chrissy Mayer]

The Holy Spirit, yeah, whatever you want.

[Ian Crossland]

To call it, spirituality, the spirit, whether it's a magnetic field, the Holy Spirit.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yoga, whatever you believe.

[Phil Labonte]

I will say that I think Christians do not think the Holy Spirit is a magnetic field. I think. I think. I think. I'm pretty sure it could be both.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's a dove.

[Ian Crossland]

You know, you look at it from one angle, you see a God man, and then the other angle you see a flow. It's like a particle wave duality.

[Phil Labonte]

Like I said, I think the Christians look at it differently. But you're.

[Ian Crossland]

Are you a Christian? You're.

[Phil Labonte]

You're welcome to your. To your beliefs.

[Ian Crossland]

Are you a Christian?

[Phil Labonte]

I was raised as a Christian. I was raised Catholic.

[Ian Crossland]

Are you Christian now?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't. I'm agnostic. How many times have you heard me say that? I'm telling you what Christians.

[Ian Crossland]

What do you think someone else might think?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. I'm telling you what Christians believe because I was raised Catholic.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

You can speak for yourself. You know.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I would attend a church of Ian for sure. I would watch you preach. It's the church of Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what we're doing right now.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. Instead of a cross. Cross land. Okay. All right, I'll. I'll work on that.

[Ian Crossland]

I. I know, Phil. I know. There's like a carbon copy cut out of what Christians are supposed to think. But that doesn't mean we can't evolve. Even Christians like and see more. You know, there's more. There's always going to be a new horizon of ways to see things.

[Adam Johnson]

I don't. I don't think so. I think the word of God is infallible. And what is. What exactly is in the Bible is what the word of God is. And being a Christian means believing completely and not changing it to fit your own narratives and your own lifestyle. That is like the whole entire premise of being a Christian.

[Ian Crossland]

I think it's more about acts than about what you believe.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I think it's all of it.

[Adam Johnson]

It's not like if you.

[Ian Crossland]

What if you believe something, but then you go do some horrific.

[Adam Johnson]

The Bible says not by acts alone, lest any man should boast it. It's literally about Christ being our salvation. He grants us grace even though we don't deserve it, extends it to everyone who is willing to accept him as their Lord and Savior. It's actually like the core tenets of the Bible.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you think that people that believe that Jesus is their Lord and Savior, that then go cheat on their wife, are a Christian?

[Chrissy Mayer]

That's just an example.

[Adam Johnson]

No, I think we're all sinners, and without grace, we would all continue to be sinners. But because God is merciful and did give us His Son to die on a cross to grant us grace, to help us, I think that no matter what we do afterwards, it doesn't change who Christ is. Christ is the Son of God and he gave us grace and he saved us. So it's not. It's not us and what we do and don't do. It's what he has done for us. That's the whole premise of Christianity.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Loves everybody equally. It's, it's. And I think that's. I don't know, it seems to be maybe Christians as a whole. It is. It's so easy to, like, grandstand and. But I know that that, like, puts a lot of people off of it, because I think if someone feels judged, maybe by somebody in the. In the Christian or Catholic community, they're like, that's going to make them kind of. Of pull away a little bit. I think this is great what, what Trump is saying here. I think it's, we were a Christian nation. We were founded under certain values. And when, I don't know, you have millions of Muslims kind of infiltrating your country, it's like, it's easy to lose sight. We used to all have the same Values we used to.

[Phil Labonte]

That it was secularists that, that kind of came first. Right. They kind of made the, the secularists kind of really pushed the Christians out of the center of the, the country. Right. Because they, they would say, oh, you know, especially in the 90s, there was so many people that looked at Christians as bad because of people like. Because of the Catholic Church. Well, because the Catholic Churches, the scandals. Because the, the Pope wasn't, you know, condemning the, the priests that were actually, you know. Yeah, they were abusing kids and, and the, the, it went, not just the cardinals, but it went all the way up to the Pope and that really gave Catholicism a bad name. And then you had people like Jimmy. Was it Jimmy Swaggart was the guy that was cheating on his wife or something like that? He was a pre. Was it? Yeah, it was Jimmy Swaggart who was cheating on his. He has, he was a preacher at one of the mega churches and he was cheating on his wife and stuff. So those kind of things really did a number on, on organized religion and, and Christianity in particular. And so Christians kind of got browbeat a lot and so they kind of, they, they weren't as, they weren't proselytizing the way they were before and stuff. And so after that you had a situation where kind of like the, the, the secularists kind of moved in and kind of took over and they're like, well, you know, I'm, I'm kind of Christian. I have, you know, we celebrate Christian Christmas, but we're, you know, I don't go to church and stuff. And they kind of became the center of the United States. And, and so that kind of opened the door for people to say, well, you know, there is no religion that the U.S. you know, it's like, it's like we don't have a religion in.

[Chrissy Mayer]

The United States, but we celebrate Amazon Prime Day.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, Black Friday is the big holiday for us, you know.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh yes.

[Adam Johnson]

Secularism won because of the weakness of faith leaders. Yeah, that is exactly why they want. It was the watering down of the Bible. It was. He's saying, well, I'm not going to call that a sin. You know, everyone's got a choice to live in their own private lives and do what they want to do. And it's the weakness of men. We found, we found a lack of a spine throughout the years letting get married. It's doing things like we did these things because we said that we're polite people. We're not going to, you know, be mean to people. And the Bible commands us to speak in truth and love. That is, that is two things we're supposed to do. And I can tell you the truth in a very loving way, but I have, I have a requirement to tell you the truth. Truth, that is what the Holy Spirit asks us to do and tells us to do. So I think when we water down our faith leaders to give us these, you know, these coffee shop talks, instead of actually reading the word of God and convicting people to go out there and go and sin no more, we're not going to win the faith back. And I think the founding fathers were very clear. We are a Christian nation. When they came together and said, you know, freedom of religion, they were talking about Christianity because they were simultaneously burning women for being whores. So I definitely think they were talking about Christianity.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And everyone has a phase like that in college, right, ladies? I don't know. Humans are fallible. We all sin, and that's. Then Christ's love and forgiveness is available to everyone, no matter how bad, no matter how much.

[Phil Labonte]

And, you know, even though, like, I, you know, I'm, I'm an agnostic, I still understand that. You know, the United States was founded by Christians. They were trying to escape the persecution from the, the Church of England. They wanted to be able to practice their faith in, in the way that they saw fit, the way that they believed that the Word told them to. And so, like, even though I'm not, you know, a believer, I understand the faith enough and I understand our history enough to be able to say, yeah, we are a Christian nation. You know, that's, that's the, the moral, the morals that we all share here that most of us share in the United States. They come from Christianity.

[Ian Crossland]

The funny thing is it was, it was Christians that were fleeing other Christians that were persecuted.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Carter Banks]

They didn't want to be Catholic, like Roman Catholic.

[Ian Crossland]

So it's like just Christians kind of vague, you know.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, again, that's why I specified the Church of England. Like, the, the way like the Church of England was basically, it was like kind of the King and then the Pope. Right. And so it was basically the Catholics and the Protestants. They wanted to get away from that. They didn't believe that, that, that the God ordained the Pope to be the one speaking for, for God. Right. They said that, no, we can talk to God ourselves, we can pray to God and, and so now you sure do have a bunch, plenty of denominations. But the reason that we don't have a state religion is because of the Church of England, because we didn't want to have one church in the United States saying, this is the religion of the United States. Because there were a bunch of different Christian denominations here in the US it.

[Ian Crossland]

Was the Brownists, this guy Brown. They separated from the Church of England. The Church of England was fleeing the Catholic Church. Then a group of. From the Church of England fled the Church of England. They're like, I can't get away.

[Phil Labonte]

It's like, well, I mean, that's what happened. That happened a lot. I mean, that's how you got. You know, nowadays, you. Kind of. Most of the time in the U.S. you're either. Or People talk about either Catholics as Christians or they talk about Protestants. And those are the two. And basically, if you're not a Catholic, you're some form of Protestants. Or the Baptists, the Episcopalians. Those are all Methodists. Those are all Protestants. They're protesting the Catholic Church.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They don't like the stained glass windows. They don't like the statues.

[Phil Labonte]

They don't like the Pope.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They don't like the saints.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. They don't believe in prank to saints or they don't believe that saints will pray on your behalf.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I was raised Methodist. They wouldn't let you have wine. They give you little thimbles of cranberry juice and little, like, croutons. What? Oh, yeah.

[Carter Banks]

Are they blessed croutons at least?

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know. No one knows what happens to the croutons. But I'm converting to. I'm actually in the process of convert. Converting right now. I'm in OCIA classes. It's a process that takes like, a year. I started back in June. And then you get basically, like, I was baptized Methodist, but you get like, your, I guess, first confirmation on, like, Easter.

[Carter Banks]

Oh, nice.

[Chrissy Mayer]

So the. I don't know. I was like, I want to be dunked into a thing of water, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

[Ian Crossland]

Holy water?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. Holy water.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Does that go allies with those experiments where they bless the water and it changes the alignment of the structure? I don't know if they're actually real, but, like.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And then. Do I get to then turn around and sell that as my bath water?

[Ian Crossland]

You should bathe in holy water.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that's probably best fully frowned upon.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, that's true.

[Phil Labonte]

If you're like, I'm going to bathe in the holy water and then sound like my holy bath water, that's trash.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you ever seen the video of, like, a frog in a pond and the frog's just vibrating and then the ripples start going out from the frog.

[Carter Banks]

No, but is it hot water?

[Ian Crossland]

Like, no, it's like in a lake. It's like in a pond. And it's just a frog sitting there breathing. And then he just starts vibrating. He's like riveting or something.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And was it a female frog? Like, what's she sitting on?

[Ian Crossland]

But I'm thinking of you doing that in the bathtub. Not you particularly, but one in there. Blessing.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

Yes.

[Chrissy Mayer]

This is a serious show.

[Adam Johnson]

I was not thinking of you in a bathtub.

[Phil Labonte]

I wasn't either.

[Ian Crossland]

I was, but it wasn't like weird. It was just like your head, you know?

[Phil Labonte]

No, it wasn't weird at all. He was thinking about a frog vibrating while he was thinking. It's not weird at all.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, my God.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm thinking about Serge in the bathtub. And it is weird. It's still weird.

[Phil Labonte]

Serge.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's pretty cool, though. Like, I, as an adult, like, I appreciate how many hoops. Oops. The. The church is making me jump through to. To get in, to get in the club.

[Ian Crossland]

We need is a bunch of people that aren't hypocrites to be Christians because that the hypocrites were really turned on.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Pretending to be perfect. And it's those people who pretend that they are, you know, claim that they are perfect, that they are a model Christian or a model Catholic. It's like pride comes before the fall. None of us are perfect. Everyone has sinned.

[Ian Crossland]

So how do you guys find alignment with like big business church churches that are big businesses?

[Chrissy Mayer]

What do you mean, like a megachurch?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, mega churches.

[Adam Johnson]

I can answer that very clearly. So there is a concept about new Christians needing milk. Like a baby. Right. And I think mega churches do a really good job feeding milk to new Christians. It's a very watered down version. But I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're learning something. There comes a point where babies need to grow and they need solid foods. In your development, in your faith with Christ, if you're actually praying and reading the word of God, spending time with him, you will get to a place where you'll understand. The megachurch is that while they serve a purpose, they don't serve a purpose for you and your faith and your walk. They really, really don't. It's more of it. It is a business model. And I also think that it's more of a production. I was a worship pastor for a couple of years and, you know, the production side of it always felt took away from the actual worship part of it, when you come into worship God, it's not supposed to be, you know, all these lights and, and things like that. Yes. It's supposed to be you offering a sacrifice to God.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Although the Righteous Gemstones is the funniest show I've ever seen. And everybody should watch it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I, I think I'm glad that Catholics don't have drum kits in their churches. I think that a drum kit should be off limits.

[Carter Banks]

My dad told me, like, you're not supposed to enjoy this.

[Adam Johnson]

Bring back the organ. Bring back the choir.

[Phil Labonte]

Me and my girlfriend were going to a. The Latin mass in. Oh yeah.

[Carter Banks]

Monks in Charlestown.

[Phil Labonte]

And it was super cool. I loved it. So I will be going back when we get back to.

[Adam Johnson]

There's also been a huge departure in that. So, like, I'm, I'm a him. I'm a hymn enthusiast. The way the hymns were written is it's very much about God and the glory of God and celebrating the glory of God.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Is that one of your pronouns? He, Him. Oh boy. Christian jokes coming at you.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, the new stuff is all about me, myself and I. It's like, you know, I got grace, I got this. It's all about me. And it's, it's completely opposite of what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be about celebrating the glory of God. So him enthusiasts, we should bring them back.

[Chrissy Mayer]

You can't have just a little grace.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, like God doesn't give you anything. It's giving you something. It's not like I got that now. I have it. It's it. I'm receiving this right now. And if I change, I will no longer receive this gift. I will no longer receive this grace. So I have to maintain, you know, parity.

[Adam Johnson]

So you have to keep it in the weeds thing. There's some, there are some sects that believe you can lose your, your salvation on a long enough timeline if you continue to live in sin.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but the, the real fundamental part of Christianity is that everybody is a hypocrite. Everybody falls short of the glory of God and it's only through Christ that you can be redeemed.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, everybody can start over.

[Ian Crossland]

Long and short.

[Phil Labonte]

They're like, ah, you're, you're, you're, you're.

[Ian Crossland]

A dirty loser anyway. Just bow down to us and you'll be fine.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no, no, not us.

[Ian Crossland]

Christ. Serve our Lord and Savior. Your Lord and Savior, the king above you that you serve him. Do that and you'll be fine. By the way, we it's through us that you serve him.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's not like that. It's almost like if you. If you give your life over to Christ, it's basically like you're saying it's a huge weight to lift that's lifted off your shoulders. You're basically saying, like, use me, guide me. Like, when I. I'm not an expert at praying yet, but, like, when I. When I do pray, I'm like, hey, I pray for guidance. I pray for strength. I pray for clarity. Like, I pray all the time. Like, lord, help me use my platform for, like, to the best of whatever is your plan. It also helps, you know, just like, if you don't want to make a big prayer, like, it's just like, oh, help guide me through this day. I think one of things, the. The woman who's leading my OCIA class has this prayer and a line that really stuck with me was like, like, God, please destroy any plans today that are not part of your plan. Which is like, what a great thing to remember. So if you're like stuck in traffic or something doesn't work out or like, something happens to your day, we're like, oh, this is messed up. This is ruined. It's like, no, like, maybe some things get upended because that's part of the plan and that maybe kept you away from something. Another thing that's good to remember is like, like, yeah, rejection is, you know, oftentimes redirection. You know, it kind of. It helps take some of the negativity and the heaviness. It's like, all right, well, someone else is, like, kind of steering you. You just have to be getting flow with it, get in. Flow with what God's plan is for your life. And then it's not all on you to make, you know, every decision, you know, on your own. It's like we all kind of need to, like, rely on him. I'm still figuring it out, though.

[Ian Crossland]

So I feel about the comments sometimes is they're just redirecting me. They're not.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They're not telling me. Don't listen to the comments. Don't read them.

[Phil Labonte]

Don't read. Don't read the comments.

[Ian Crossland]

I think we're going to talk about politics again, but I mean, if you guys want to talk about Taoism and Christianity, maybe.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know anything.

[Adam Johnson]

What do we have?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

We have kind of a breaking story here, so I'm going to give it to you.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Breaking news.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, just announced urgent warning from Secretary Marco Rubio and State Department. All US Citizens In Iran. Leave now. Have a plan for departing Iran that does not rely on US Government help.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Get your. Pick up a Persian rug and scram out of there.

[Adam Johnson]

Fly on out.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know why else somebody would go to Iran. Carpet and get on your magic carpet and scram.

[Carter Banks]

However you got here, you might want to.

[Ian Crossland]

Damn. Sounds like there's an attack imminent.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Kiss Jasmine goodbye.

[Ian Crossland]

Then what they're going to do is they're going to make it seem like there's not an attack imminent and then hit them. That's what they did last time. So that's what.

[Adam Johnson]

So maybe they.

[Ian Crossland]

Exactly when they. When they think it could be an.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Older warning though, from what I'm reading here on this is. It was the warning everyone remembers I had. They actually released warning like about a month ago, December 5th. Did it get restated?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it did. There's. There's a bunch of people that are tweeting about it right now somewhere.

[Adam Johnson]

Lindsey Graham's implying project sitting on his couch.

[Phil Labonte]

The Calvin Coolidge project just said just in. The U.S. state Department has called on U.S. citizens to leave Iran immediately.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

So this is more pressing then because the level four one that you see right here is do not travel.

[Chrissy Mayer]

How many levels are there?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Advisory because risks. I don't know how many wrists there are, but I imagine if they're saying leave immediately, it's probably a different level. It's a different level of intensity on this one. I don't know though. I'm looking.

[Chrissy Mayer]

What is there? Are there colors? How do we know how?

[Ian Crossland]

Like red, yellow.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah, levels of intensity are there.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, this is a 20.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Is it blinking?

[Ian Crossland]

This is a January 12th alert.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not breaking.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, no Grok. Someone just was talking to, asking Grok about it. And Grock says the U. S. State Department has issued a security alert on February 5, 2026, urging American citizens to leave Iran immediate due to ongoing protest, unrest, Internet outages, flight disruptions and risk of terrorism, kidnapping and arbitrary detention. They suggest departing by land to Armenia or Turkey if safe commercial flights are limited. For details, check travel state.gov do not walk.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I run out of there.

[Phil Labonte]

I got.

[Ian Crossland]

I got a news article on a live TV show with half a million people and I just started acting like it was real. We didn't even. And it's. Is not a. This was not breaking. This is like that's very dangerous.

[Chrissy Mayer]

But that's the last time we trust Gunther Eagleman on this show.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Today is February 5th. I just pointed out like how a month ago they did tell People that like, hey, we're putting. And we're putting on notice. Let me bring it up right here really fast. This is level four. Do not travel to Iran. But I believe they may have told them at the same time, hey, you should probably leave. But from what I'm seeing here and what I've been, what I've actually looked up already, I checked this before I posted it. I saw from our chat here, they reannounced it or they said it again this month saying like, hey, guys, it's ramping up. You should get out.

[Phil Labonte]

Spectator index tweeted 30 minutes ago, breaking. The US State Department calls on US citizens to leave Iran immediately. Let's see, where's another one? So, yeah, I mean, it is breaking news. There's probably not imminent strikes, as in things in the air on the way right now, but, I mean, it wouldn't be surprising if it happened in the next 24 hours.

[Carter Banks]

Move it down.

[Chrissy Mayer]

And where is this document from? This. Is this from the.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

This is from, I believe, from the State Department.

[Chrissy Mayer]

State Department says leave Iran now. Have a plan for departing Iran that does not rely on US Government help. Flight cancellations and disruptions are possible with little warning. Check directly with your airlines for updates. Man, I hope people don't have spirit tickets down there because I would book another airline. If you cannot leave, find a secure location within your residence or another safe building. Have a supply of food, water, medications and other essential items. Avoid demonstrations. Keep a low profile and stay aware of your surroundings. Monitor local media for breaking news. Be prepared to adjust your plans. Keep your phone charged. This is like, mom. This is like your mom sending you a text. Keep your phone charged and maintain communication with family and friends to inform them of your status.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, this is so. I'm just reading more about the Iranian situation from twz.com Middle east preparing for war ahead of US Iran negotiations tomorrow in Oman, the US and Iran are having diplomatic negotiations.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Is there like a bomb emoji next to the negotiation?

[Ian Crossland]

Straight up negotiations. So what they're doing is check your.

[Adam Johnson]

Papers out the door.

[Ian Crossland]

They're low loading. They're loading the chamber so that this is going to be a power move during the negotiations. They're going to be like, look, now everyone. Negotiations. No, we pulled our people out. You're going to do what we say.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Now or so because they can't take people as hostages, right?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Oh, let's see. They were doing some sort of nuclear talks here. It says from Iran Observer. Iran's former foreign minister says he talks with The US Will take place on Friday in Oman from Sayadabas, Aragachi, whatever his name is. Nuclear talks to the United States. Richard B. And held in Muscat on the 10am or on about 10am front 10am Friday. So Muscat happening tomorrow.

[Ian Crossland]

They're pulling the citizens, they're issuing the citizens out before the diplomatic negotiations. You know, it's not, they're not going to be talking nice.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, there's no way. That's the thing. If the Iranians don't, don't play ball, I imagine strikes are imminent, right. Like, so they, they get together tomorrow at 10am and if they, if they don't hammer things out, I wouldn't be surprised if there were strikes tomorrow evening, which would be what you know, about this time tomorrow Evening, probably during 10.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Times should we check the flights out of Iran is when they would happen.

[Adam Johnson]

What's Rubio saying here?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

This is from yesterday, I believe, but he was talking basically about what Iran is doing.

[I]

Problem Iran faces and the regime faces right now is that what people are on the streets complaining about this regime cannot address. They cannot address a. Because it's economic. Those problems remain. And one of the reasons why the Iranian regime cannot provide the people of Iran the quality of life that they deserve is because they're spending all their money, they're spending all their resources of what is a rich country sponsoring terrorism, sponsoring, you know, all these proxy groups around the world exporting, as they call it, their revolution. But I remind everybody what I've been saying through my entire career in public service. I said it in my hearing when I was asking for confirmation through the Senate. The Iranian people and the Iranian regime are very unalike, in essence, what the Iranian people want. This is a culture with a deep history. These are people that the leadership of Iran at the clerical level does not reflect the people of Iran. I know of no other country where there's a bigger difference between the people that lead the country and the people who live in there. So our hope resides in that. As far as the President's views on the way protesters were treated, he was very clear, I mean, about it. And as you saw, helping democracy, part of what the President said, publicly prevented.

[Phil Labonte]

I think they want mass monarchy.

[I]

They want being planned in the precipice of and, and obviously beyond that, the President retains a number of options to how he responds to that and future events. But as far as the talks are concerned, you know, I think the Iranians had agreed to a certain format for whatever reason. It's changed in Their system or what have you. We'll see. We can get back to the right place. The United States prepared to meet with them.

[Adam Johnson]

Kind of like, I mean, I don't like the idea of regime change. I'm kind of an isolationist when it comes to my policy as far as foreign policy goes. But if we are going to do regime change, I prefer the way Trump has done it. Yeah, let's get in, let's get out. Let's not nation build. Let's not put troops on the ground. Let's just get the resources we need. We're in a lot of debt that take him if we need them.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And in the context of Iran, there, there are a lot of people that want the Shaw back. They, There's a guy that's alleged to be, you know, ready to go. I, I don't remember the Shah's name. He was living in the United States. I believe he lived in Texas. And he was, you know, he's, he's been, he started a website that was being broadcast in Iran. People could go there and get information.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Was his website called SHA or not.com or not?

[Phil Labonte]

No, I don't think so.

[Chrissy Mayer]

All right, back to the drawing board. I loved that website.

[Phil Labonte]

But, yeah, I think the, the point is that there's, there are people that want to see that government return. If the existing regime is booted out, it won't be the United States, you know, propping up a government. There'll be a government that gets, that gets put into place. That's an Iranian government, that's a Persian government pretty quickly. So.

[Adam Johnson]

Which again is, I think, a lot better.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, absolutely. I agree, totally.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

With Venezuela, we had a guy, Maduro, I don't know how much of a dictator he was, how many people running it. Iran, I don't, I have not worked in the Iranian government, but I think it's a more entrenched.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Not with that attitude.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. 35 years, 45 years, I think they've been in power. So they're, they're heavily entrenched. If we did remove, move the top eight guys from power there, we'd still have a bureaucracy like a deep state, Iranian deep state that probably would be hunting down. We, I say, but like, you know, militarized aspects of society be hunting people down. Who knows?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I've read some stuff that there's, there are people that are kind of like, like you say, like behind the scenes, people that are actually in charge. So even if the. AYATOLLAH is not the guy there. The regime stays in power. So I don't. And I, I would assume that, that, you know, the United States is aware of that. If, if it's true. And I ass have a plan for that. If they're actually looking to get those people out of power and actually have a changing government. But it's not something that I have a whole lot of information.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

I just think as well with this, it's very different than like a situation where you're going to create martyrs. Like, he, like Rubio is stating that everyone in Iran, which is what we, we all kind of know most people in Iran are not down with what the, the regime is doing. They're not going to be suddenly like, oh, I can't believe the US Came and killed our Ayatollah. Yeah, there'll be probably a couple of those guys, but it's not going to be by and large like the whole culture United States for getting rid of or ousting this, this leadership. I'm not going to see martyrs. We're going to see an overall end in, in terrorist funding around the world because these guys bankroll everything. We've proven that they do it and they've done it for a long time. So I see it as positive. I hope that it works out the right way.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Kind of similar to like when they took Maduro out of Venezuela and it seemed like most Venezuelans were happy.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

With that.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

That's what I'm saying. But, you know, it's also to where Adam was saying it's better to do it kind of like the black bag method as opposed to like the big bombs and the whole.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Throw him in a sack.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Have Barney come back out. Clean up, Clean up. All right.

[Adam Johnson]

He'll feel like his wife for once or one of them.

[Chrissy Mayer]

What two people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is their business.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Adam, that's crazy.

[Chrissy Mayer]

From the AF post. The Israelis want to want the US to strike Iran, but President Trump is just not there and really does not want to do it.

[Ian Crossland]

It.

[Phil Labonte]

We don't even know what India thinks.

[Ian Crossland]

Which means he's going to, he's going.

[Phil Labonte]

To tell everyone he's not going to hit him.

[Ian Crossland]

When they close their eyes, wait till they blink. That's what you pulled this one before Trump, but I still think you're going to pull it again. What's that?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, that's, that's good.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. I'd rather you do it than don't.

[Adam Johnson]

I will say one positive thing about this this presidency we've seen this time, no leaks. No leaks.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Adam Johnson]

We just. We just get it done. It's like, oh, it's. It's over. It's over now. I think it's been one of the best things about this. About this presidency, and it gives me a lot of hope and faith that things are coming, things will be happening.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And largely that's because they. The. I think because of the changes in the. In the Department of War with the media there and the changes at the White House, the media. The media room there. The. The media that was covering Donald Trump, they. They had a lot of connections, they knew a lot of people, and they would get information and they would put it out, regardless of how many people's lives they endangered, no matter. Regardless of how much of a problem it became for America, because it was a scoop. And two, they could go ahead and cast Donald Trump as a bad guy.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That's such a liability.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Chrissy Mayer]

So irresponsible.

[Adam Johnson]

Biden was doxing SF guys.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, definitely.

[Adam Johnson]

Like, crazy stuff.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

Great stuff.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

I think another thing to speak to, my point is this right here, you see this graffiti that someone shared that is written in Farsi, I assume, saying, president Trump, don't negotiate with the killers, the people of Iran. So they're literally calling out Farsi surge.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Look, those look like a couple of boobs there in the middle, separated by some. Some squiggles.

[Phil Labonte]

It's porn, honey.

[Carter Banks]

Just throw them off.

[Ian Crossland]

This is. This is regarding them allegedly slaughtering tens of thousands of protesters over the last month or something.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there's. There's. There's reports, and I don't know how. How reliable these are, but there's reports that they've. They've caused. They've killed, like. Like a couple dozen thousand to, like, 24 or something.

[Adam Johnson]

I heard it was 6 million.

[Carter Banks]

Couple dozen thousand.

[Phil Labonte]

You got to go there, right? You got to go there.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We all know it wasn't that many.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I've heard that they. They killed a gorillion.

[Adam Johnson]

Just say it wasn't.

[Chrissy Mayer]

But.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, the reports coming out are that they've killed, like, 36, 000 people or something like that. So, you know, I don't know how reliable they are. I'm not saying that that's what happened, but they've killed a lot. I know they have killed a lot of people.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Couldn't this person just saw a tweet?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, no, because it wouldn't be. No, because they're turning off the Internet. Yeah, that's the problem. They shut off the regular Internet like a week ago, or maybe they're trying.

[Chrissy Mayer]

To do an AT symbol like AT Trump.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

You're making fun of the writing.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yes, I'm making fun of shitty writing.

[Phil Labonte]

Your penmanship is awful.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Terrible.

[Phil Labonte]

So, yeah, I mean, look, if, if they're going to be talking tomorrow and they're. And the State Department's issuing a warning now, I think it's, you know, I mean, not that. Again, not that I have any kind of insider information, but it's likely that if the talks break down, down, because they've been putting stuff in, in place for the past couple weeks. I think there's two carriers in the area now. And I said a couple weeks ago, like, people were talking about, you know, things were moving, and I was like, there at the time, there were no carriers in, in the, in the region. I was like, they're not doing anything until there's aircraft carriers there. Because the aircraft, it's not just the aircraft carrier. It's a whole strike group that comes along with it. So there's a bunch of, a bunch of, you know, ships that are just there to shoot missiles and stuff. Now that there's two carriers in there, that's, that's, that's how you know something's going. You know, least that's how you know the United States has the capability to do a, to do strikes that are sustained and to make sure that if there are any special forces or anything that are on the ground. Because again, they were talking about, you know, Special Forces guys getting into the area as well. If they're there on the ground waiting for, you know, waiting for the signal to go. You have to have a quick reaction force. You have to have. Normally, if it's army going in, there'll be the Rangers on qrf, but if it's, if it's, if it's this kind of situation, there, there's probably a couple thousand Marines on, on those aircraft carriers that they can use as a quick reaction force. So if something goes bad, you'll have backup. And the US doesn't move without that kind of stuff nowadays.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, it's. This stuff is like, also kind of intimidating sounding, but it does make me happy that we can rely like on our really strong military and just like, oh, okay, they're like, kind of the best. So.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, after Venezuela, I mean, if I were in the Iranian government, I would be, I'd be crapping my pants like, oh, they can just take me in the middle of the night. They just take me.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, as much as People love to say the United States was beaten in Afghanistan. There's beaten in Vietnam. You know, the US has lost all these wars. The US has had bad policy, but the US military doesn't lose engagements. I mean, in the 80s, the United States literally took out half of Iran's Navy in. In eight hours. The. The fat electrician has a great. A great.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Did they sink their battleship?

[Phil Labonte]

They did. They had. They had two modern ships, and I'm pretty sure that they scuttled one and they let one limp home, but they took. They took. They literally destroyed half of their navy in eight hours. And it was kind of like an act. It wasn't an accident, but it was kind of an accident because they were like, well, you know, go do this and. And don't do anything unless you're shot at. And, you know, Iran shot at him. And so the US the, they responded. And when the US Responds, like, everything dies.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

So, like I said, watch the fat electrician's video on it. It's just. Look for the fat. Just Google the fat electrician proportional. And it's. It's a great video. He's hilarious. Anyways, you should watch all of his stuff. But the one on the US Taking out half of Iran's Navy in a day. It's a great video. Video. But the US doesn't lose military engagements.

[Adam Johnson]

I don't think we necessarily lost. You know, Iraq, Afghanistan. I just think there was no clear. What was our victory? What was the actual mission? And there was no clear parameters of what victory looked like.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, people just like to say, oh, the U.S. lost, the U.S. lost. And it's. And fair enough, the U.S. goals, the U.S. political goals weren't achieved, but the U.S. didn't lose engagements at all. You know, I like, I can't think of any significant engagement. Obviously, people died. You know, people in the military died. There, there were. There were casualties, but there was no significant military engagement that the US Got into where they didn't absolutely crush the opposition. And that, That's. That's whether you're talking about the Iran or, I'm sorry, the Iraq wars one and two, Vietnam, Afghanistan, like all of these, these military operations, the US Absolutely dominated on. You know, the US Military absolutely dominated. It's just that the political goals were not.

[Ian Crossland]

Not Vietnam, not Vietnam. The. The Tet offensives.

[Phil Labonte]

When it.

[Ian Crossland]

It shifted and turned, it routed the Americans into a full retreat, just getting slaughtered off hills and dying in the jungle. Napalming. Like friendly fire. It was after the Tet offensive began, which is where The North Koreans or North Vietnamese, pardon me, came in a surprise attack with Chinese weapons, Russian weapons. Basically, the reason we lost those engagements in Vietnam was because we were up against Russian weaponry, Soviet weaponry, at the time. They were feeding them to the north, the North Vietnamese.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I've been told that my Tets are offensive.

[Phil Labonte]

In the TET offensive, approximately 50 to 60,000 Viet Cong died, compared to 2,600Americans died.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, but how many. We were. That was a losing offensive. We lost that offensive.

[Phil Labonte]

We lost the. We lost the PR War. The actual evacuated. No, that's.

[Ian Crossland]

If you're saying that they didn't lose battles in Vietnam. I'm sorry.

[Phil Labonte]

When you kill 50 to 60,000 people versus losing 2,600 people, that is not a military victory for the other side.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, if your guy. If your soldiers worth five other enemy.

[Phil Labonte]

Soldiers, like I said, Ian, in. The political goals were not met. They. They decided that it was no longer worth fighting because they weren't going to be able to meet the political goals. So the US Is like, okay, we're leaving, but the military engagements, the actual gunfights, the fights, the US didn't lose. And that's the. The. The. The evidence. 50 to 60,000 Viet Cong died in the Tet Offensive. 2,600Americans were killed.

[Ian Crossland]

I know, but what was the value of an American troop to the value of North Vietnamese troop? The American troop was clad out in gear, probably worth a hundred times a Vietnamese person's life. They had sticks. They did have Soviet weaponry.

[Phil Labonte]

But the point that I'm making is the military engagement. The US Military didn't lose the military engagement. The politics were bad, but the US Military won the engagements.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I agree. The politics were bad, and that is why Nixon was forced to. That's why we eventually pulled out, because people at home were pissed off. But there were a lot of engagements in Vietnam that the Americans did not win. That was like a slog. Like, no one was winning. People would lose. They would win. They would lose. They would win. They would. Dudes would get walked through. Like, a platoon of dudes would walk by, and six of them would get shot and killed in, like, seven seconds. And then, like, that's a lost engagement. But since the Soviet Union's fallen, we haven't lost any.

[Phil Labonte]

There were definitely ambushes. But in the U.S. the U.S. lost 56,000 people in the Vietnam War. Right. Overall, the VC. The VC lost 849,000 people.

[Chrissy Mayer]

People.

[Phil Labonte]

So again, yes, there were times where, like, the US Took casualties, but the overall military engagements, the US Absolutely Dominated. The problem was you can't subjugate people that aren't going to be subjugated. Right. The politic, political side, they weren't going to win. But when you go by, and I'm not talking about the politics, I'm talking about just the military operations. Right? The US Is absolutely the premier military in the world and has been since the end of World War II. The U.S. like in Korea, right? Like there were 2 million people that died fighting the Americans in Korea or Chinese that died because they would just send wave after wave after wave after people of people, like, they would send them out with no guns. There'd be a dude with a gun in the front. There'd be a guy behind him without a gun, says, when that guy dies, pick up his gun. So, yes, I understand that like the politics side didn't you know, the political goals weren't achieved. And so that means that. So technically the US Lost. But the point that I'm trying to make is that the military engagements, when you're talking about just what the military is doing, the military doesn't lose or. And it's not that they can't, but like, Overall, it's like 50 to 1 engagements. The US wins America.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Vietnam was the last real bloody war the Americans have ever fought. For sure.

[Adam Johnson]

Christopher Walken lost his life in the Russian roulette game.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Okay, everybody, remember to smash that like, button. Remember to subscribe, remember to share this video with friends. We'll be going to Super Chats and Rumble Rants now, but remember to join us on timcast.com to join us for the call in section of this show, which is going to happen right after we finish up. Going to the people. What are the people saying? Let's see here. Super Poopers. Read that one. Oh, no, that's terrible.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Hey, thanks for the $40, though.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Thank you for the money.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

They gave us $20 twice.

[Carter Banks]

So.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Did he say the same thing?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Okay, let's read that then, if you want.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

I mean, we could read this one.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Not this C U N T again. All right, fine. Well, we get the gist of that, Joey.

[Adam Johnson]

Let's go more positive.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Thank you for the money though, sir. Joey Giggles. Ian would. I would play wow with you, A World of Warcraft with you and talk all the lore and talk about alternate dimensions and alternate realities, but your weak spot is politics. And I'd have to walk away from that convo thinking wtf.

[Ian Crossland]

If you haven't figured out by now, I can't stand talking about politics. I Want to know what's happening in the world, but I can't stand. It's just so boring. Ian has many strengths and we know it's not the answer, but, like.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I also can't talk about politics either.

[Ian Crossland]

So that drives me nuts.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's. It's all good. Let's see. West, bro. Thank you for the super chat. Love you. Chrissy, You're. The penny packs have come. Thank you. More. More super chats of people who like me and less than that other guy.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Not working on it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That one's the Republic bar boss. Joining the tradition, we are in the recovery room greeting our firstborn. Oh, welcome to the world, Baby Cooper. Congratulations. We always love baby announcements.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Actually. Oops. Let's go back. Right there.

[Chrissy Mayer]

This guy Nemo's little hand keeping the tradition alive. Guys, baby number three is on the way. What did he just conceive? He literally just blow up the boat.

[Phil Labonte]

And send.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm pretty sure baby number three is on the way.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Wow. Thank you for keeping us updated. Sorry, I didn't mean to.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Let's see.

[Adam Johnson]

Three kids. That's a good number.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, that's. Isn't that replacement? Replacement?

[Adam Johnson]

I think.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

A boy, a girl. And then my mom said to me, she's like, we had a boy and then we had a girl, and then we didn't care what came out next. And that was me. I was the third.

[Phil Labonte]

My mom said if I was born first, I wouldn't have been a second one.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Do it right.

[Phil Labonte]

The first time I was a cry whiny baby.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I'm not your buddy.

[Phil Labonte]

Guy.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Guy.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Guy. Disappointed in Lisa's take on the Alberta. On Alberta the other day. Alberta literally funds most of Canada through oil. We do get labeled maga, which is fair as we are way further to the right of rhinos in the U.S. nice based.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Why can't we take Alberta?

[Phil Labonte]

Because they're Canadians.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know. I like the cut of their jib. House of good and evil. Ian, I'm producing a feature road trip drama this September. Would love to see if you'd be interested in our role. The script has won its 80th award. How can I connect with you?

[Phil Labonte]

The 80 awards. Send it.

[Ian Crossland]

Hit me up on Twitter, man.

[Adam Johnson]

No, the award says called the 80th award. 80th award.

[Phil Labonte]

He made it himself.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I gave it 80 awards.

[Ian Crossland]

If you just said you. Your thing has won 80 awards and you want to make it. Send me a link to that thing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

It would be sick.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That sounds good. Let's see should we read Ready from Mismatch? We read that one. Phil, I'm sure your tour is already planned, but we'd love to see all that remains and born of Osiris down here in the El Paso, Texas area. Cheers, brother.

[Phil Labonte]

Ah, cheers, man. I'd love it. But not on this run, dude. I appreciate it.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Nice.

[Phil Labonte]

You don't like Texas, Phil, Just not on this run. I like Texas. I mean, there's a lot of great places playing Texas.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Play in a Buc Ees.

[Adam Johnson]

Dude, a music video at a Bucky's.

[Phil Labonte]

Would go so hard. Go so hard.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Done that before.

[Phil Labonte]

That would be sick.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Shane H. Wilder breaking Trump rx.gov has launched and unlike the Obamacare website, Trump RX actually works and hasn't crashed.

[Phil Labonte]

Hey, that's actually worth something, isn't it?

[Chrissy Mayer]

By our super Viagra. Trump Viagra. It keeps you harder, longer.

[Adam Johnson]

You'll be huge.

[Chrissy Mayer]

You'll be huge.

[Adam Johnson]

Huge.

[Chrissy Mayer]

There are good balls on both sides. Sorry, sorry, I. It's inappropriate.

[Adam Johnson]

It'll make your hands look very tiny.

[Ian Crossland]

Trump Rx.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Trump Rx. Oh, that's why it's.gov from Sergeant Buck 01. But CNN told me that borders were racist.

[Adam Johnson]

Look up Valtrex. I want to compare prices.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Here we go. Find the world's lowest prices on prescription drugs. America was being overcharged for medicine. The same drugs made in the same factories. Oh, yeah. Trump's been talking about this for a while at the same dosages. And Americans were paying up to 100 a thousand percent more than in any other country.

[Adam Johnson]

This is unacceptable because other countries steal our formulas. We make like 98 of all the medications on the market. And companies just across the world just reverse engineer them and just take all of our medicine. Medicine.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

This is a great.

[Carter Banks]

This is a great website.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Wow.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Loving this.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Go back up a little bit because I heard. I heard Trump mention this. The most favored. Yeah. Introducing most favored. Oh. Thanks to President Trump, days of Big Pharma press gouging are over. Leveraging the full weight and power of the usa. The President has ensured every American gets the lowest prices on prescription medications in the developed world.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Look at that. Golden USA right there.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Golden country. Put some gold on Greenland.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Give us introducing.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Introducing most favored nation pricing, guaranteeing huge savings for Americans, Puerto Ricans. This is incredible. Yeah, like, I don't need one of those, but I kind of want to get one now.

[Adam Johnson]

I think it's time to legalize steroids again. That would just be a great look.

[Chrissy Mayer]

OIC$199 a month instead of Over a thousand.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

Do you don't have to stay on.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That's like a gym membership.

[Adam Johnson]

It's meant to be like a very like, like I think it's like a 12 week cycle and then you're done.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Frequently asked questions.

[Adam Johnson]

But actually if you helps revive your brain because I mean your, your eating habits you habituated. You know you're going to eat like you usually eat. But when you reduce your appetite you change your habits. You will eat less when you were done because you've just habituated to.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Eating less also causes forever diarrhea and ozempic food face.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you heard that? Is that literally it does that or is that allegedly.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh yeah, allegedly. Literally. It's all there.

[Adam Johnson]

It can also cause blindness. That's actually blindness.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Diarrhea can cause.

[Ian Crossland]

Can cause. If you say it does cause then you're making a legal claim. But if you say can cause may cause.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Ian's right.

[Phil Labonte]

Then you're okay.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know what else to blame my diarrhea on. We did have Taco Bell the other day. Popping badges video. It was a pleasure to meet you Mr. Johnson at the very ritzy Brandon Herrera fundraiser. Good luck on your campaign. Thank you guys.

[Adam Johnson]

Thank you. It's fantastic to meet you as well. That was a great event.

[Ian Crossland]

Where, where was it?

[Adam Johnson]

It was out in Vegas. Trump Tower actually.

[Phil Labonte]

Nice.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Fun.

[Adam Johnson]

There was a suite up there. It was a bunch of really good supporters of Brandon's. By the way, if you live in Texas 26, I got a shout out. Brandon. Brandon here is running for Congress out there trying to displace the rhino. Know of a man out there. I'm not going to say his name. He's a terrible person. It's Tony Gonzalez. No one likes him. Maybe possibly had something to do with someone being set on fire. It's all hearsay at this point. I'm not saying it happened, but definitely go vote for him. Go to his website. Vote. What is it? Vote Brandon for Texas. Vote Brandon for Texas. Give him some money as well. Brandon needs to win. We need good people in Congress.

[Phil Labonte]

The last time that Brandon ran against Hernandez or Hernandez is right. Gonzalez, Gonzalez last night, same thing. Yeah, it was 400 votes. It was, it was a, A, a razor thin margin. So if you have any inclination to go vote, if you're thinking maybe go and vote, it's super important to go and vote. So make sure you get out there.

[Adam Johnson]

His primary is in March so we don't have a lot of. I don't have a lot of time left.

[Phil Labonte]

So, yeah, get out there.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Vote James Johnson. 69999. Dude. Ginger cast live tonight. Hope you all brought extra suntan lotion down to Florida Low.

[Phil Labonte]

All the gingers.

[Adam Johnson]

The number one soulless podcast reaching you on the YouTube.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I'm actually off sunblock, I think. I feel like it causes more cancer.

[Phil Labonte]

Than it seed oils.

[Ian Crossland]

That causes a lot of that sunburn.

[Chrissy Mayer]

So I'll just be out there with a big old hat. Okay. War forged history. Inspired by your push for independent media, I launched War Forge history. You cover the culture where I cover the real wars that shaped it. Deep diving into World War II, Cold War, and more. Thanks, all.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Hey, buddy.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a real world.

[Adam Johnson]

Sounds like fun to burst your bowl.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

But this is a war. Whether you think it's not, it's.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a war.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

It's just ideas right now. But that's what all wars are at the end of the day, it's ideas fighting other ideas.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

So it's. It's a war. Hate to admit it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It's an information war.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yep. It's just the next generation of warfare. It's like little drones.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I blame TikTok. Millennial mama. Other states give illegals cdls. What is that? And then driver's license. Okay. And then they come through states like mine and unalive people. That's bs. Maybe we need something like city state states.

[Phil Labonte]

No, we just need to deport all of the illegals.

[Adam Johnson]

Florida does not recognize those licenses coming out of California now like that.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

No.

[Adam Johnson]

Desantis is the most base governor in the world. I. I'm going to miss that guy.

[Chrissy Mayer]

When he's gone wolf. 3741 left is accusing everyone they disagree with of being every is. And ism has become so common that I no longer trust anyone who hasn't been targeted like that by Blue sky weirdo Rose. Y' all are good. Lol.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Cheers.

[Adam Johnson]

I just say thank you. I get called a race. Thank you. You see me?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

I was wondering if you saw me and it's like, you get me.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah. Yes. And this is north. This is not the. Oh, my God. I can't read. This is not the country. I just heard Simcast merch. Ideas. Oh, yes. Well, DM me remind me of them.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Nice.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Framing three. Oh, what's it framing? Will? I ran live to see gtavi.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

It's Will Iran live to see GTA 6.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh. Whoops. Well, that's how you know I don't play video games.

[Phil Labonte]

Read it how you want it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

What's Jatavi Stupid.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Okay, let's see, let's. I'm gonna pull back to the rebel rants here.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Rumble Rant.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

It's a good one from Misfit Brat.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Misfit Brad Brat. And Holy Spirit is like the mind of God in that when you do wrong, you feel guilty slash convicted, you regret your behavior and want to strive not to do it again. Hard hearted people do not feel that. Rebuke.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I've also heard like the Holy Spirit be referred to as like a messenger.

[Ian Crossland]

Kind of like secular people call it your conscience. That's the same thing.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Sort of.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Sort of. Yeah.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

But the, the idea that he's trying to communicate here is that like hard hearted people or people that don't have a conscience are like he's our. He's making the statement that they don't have that mind of God. They're not full of the Holy Spirit.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I think it's bending you towards it. Like if it is a magnetic. We're obviously in a magnetic field, but if that thing is somehow aligned within a magnetic field, you're being pulled towards that alignment. And the people that go broken, they can shut off that alignment. Like they can really resist it to the point where they're no longer even really being pulled towards it.

[Adam Johnson]

I would also say that in the actual Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, after Jesus dies, he says, greater is the one that comes after me and that is the Holy Spirit. So, so you get acts which is next. So these people who followed Christ are not necessarily Christians. You know, it came after when the Holy Spirit came among, came out, came upon them. So it's a whole, it actually is like a spiritual manifestation of God that lives through us.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, you're saying after Jesus died the pe. The Holy Spirit started working through the followers or like the people that came after and they started kind of building an ecosystem of righteousness.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They're all part of the Trinity. Like they're all part of the same thing. It's. But it's like, it's a hard concept. I. It was all in one struggle understanding it.

[Adam Johnson]

So in the beginning was the word of God and the words with God, the word was God. It's a. The Holy Trinity.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

All Christians believe in that part that those specific tenants.

[Phil Labonte]

But yeah.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Let's go back to the chats.

[Chrissy Mayer]

No, no. Ian Bus 2594. I am a resident of manager County.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Manatee County, I think.

[Chrissy Mayer]

County. What is your stance on the proposed cruise ship terminal? Please get it done. So my property valuable. Will ex. Will expose.

[Adam Johnson]

So they're talking about putting in a giant cruise port down where I live. It's. It's. I think it's a terrible idea. It's gonna be terrible for the ecosystem. Manatee county is a small county that's being overdeveloped, and we are basically ruining all the things that make it a charming place to live. So when you have. It's not just a cruise port they're putting in. These cruise ports will be sending out tens of thousands of people a week. So it's not just, you know, they're going to come here and leave. You will have to build housing for the crew members. You'll have to build housing for people who work at the port. And it's basically going to take all of teria and just turn it into a city. I don't want a city. I want to go fishing.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I don't know. I would worry about the pirates. I would worry about the pirates.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm. I'm actually very much against having a cruise port. There's already a port there. We have shipping that comes in, but bringing in an entire cruise terminal, I think it's a terrible idea.

[Chrissy Mayer]

They'd be like, look at me.

[Adam Johnson]

And honestly, like, do you know cruise people? Do you know cruise ship people?

[Chrissy Mayer]

I've never been on one.

[Carter Banks]

Usually you visit like, you don't have.

[Chrissy Mayer]

To say cruise cruise ship people. You can just say blacks. Adam the moral gray. The views of Chrissy marriage are not related to that of Tim cast Ira the moral gray. Hey, guys. I had my general liability insurance deny a business claim, and now I am at risk of losing it all. I have a give send. Go search save my business. Anything helps, especially prayer. Thanks.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Hey, God bless you, man.

[Phil Labonte]

Amen, man.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Best luck.

[Ian Crossland]

What was. Did he have a name or.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I think it's called save my business.

[Adam Johnson]

Save my business on give send go.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yep.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Nikki Davis, 1743. I'm 30 with six kiddos. Love the show in all caps. Great job, everybody. Oh, thanks, Nicki. Good for you.

[Adam Johnson]

That's fantastic.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, let's go.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Babies, babies, babies, babies. Everyone have babies. Get someone pregnant today. Yes, but true. Sorry, just one more for chrissy this time. I love the random play at a BUC EE's and so many other fun things said. Appreciate you, lady. Oh, thank you.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Another one right here.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, my God. It's another compliment. Thank you, el chipper. Chrissy, awesome to hear you're going through ocis. Wish you and your family the best. Sup, everyone? It is really awesome. It feels like. Like a great college class where you just Talk about philosophy and ideas the whole time. It's very, very cool.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, true. Let's do.

[Ian Crossland]

Does it cost a bunch of money?

[Chrissy Mayer]

No, it's free.

[Ian Crossland]

I could just go take the class and then be like, yeah, I'm not really interested in being a Catholic, but I love the class. Could I do that?

[Chrissy Mayer]

Like, you mean be like a, like audit the class? Like, coming with a clipboard?

[Adam Johnson]

I think you have to be places and listen.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, I do.

[Adam Johnson]

I think you might like it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

But you also just show up at a Madam Mass and follow along. Like, you can open up, like, the, the book that's in the pier, like, the pews at the mass, and you can actually read along with everything because, like, we have, like, a guy with, like, a thick Indian accent who's like, the priest at my church. And so, so New York to read along. New York, New York. It's all right. He's. And so you can follow along with, like, each of the, each of the prayers and each of the, like, the readings at mass, which helps.

[Adam Johnson]

Have you read C.S. lewis?

[Ian Crossland]

I read the lion, the Witch and the wardrobe, like, 30 years ago.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm going to get you a couple of C.S. lewis books. You would love them.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Shane H. Wilder.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

There you go.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Congratulations, Chrissy, on crossing the Tibetan Tiber.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Tiber.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Tiber. What's a Tiber?

[Ian Crossland]

It's a river.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, there you go.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

River. I think it's a river in the Middle East.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Middle East.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Where is it? And welcome home. Oh, yeah. Pax vo biscum. Peace be with you. Oh, and also with you.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, Also with you. Let's do this one right here.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Kenneth Staff, IG Vietnam was a police action, and because of that, the United States could not use its full military press.

[Ian Crossland]

US that might be true. They used quite a bit, though. You know, they, they, they napalmed those jungles in Laos pretty hard. They did, but maybe.

[Phil Labonte]

Allegedly.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, allegedly. The fallen 501st. It should be noted that an Iranian drone was shot down today after it approached a US carrier today.

[Phil Labonte]

Aggressively approached. I'm not kidding. They were. Part of the reason was it was, it wasn't just. Just, like, tooling around it. They, they were like, oh, a missile. Yeah, it was coming.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, boy.

[Phil Labonte]

It was hauling.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, I saw that earlier. I couldn't find anything to, like, bring up the show for it. Let's see. Right here is a good one.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Katie Bofi, thank you for the super chat. I'm from Australia. It was so cool to see the Russell Brand books on display on yesterday's Tim Cast irl. I stand with Russell.

[Ian Crossland]

Shout out to Sean Frasik for yes. Pumping out Russell Brand and having good ideas on the show last night. I think Sean really represented. Held it down.

[Chrissy Mayer]

It was a really interesting back and forth for sure.

[Ian Crossland]

I really like when he talks about that. He thinks people that we should just nuke the world and all these things. No, because he doesn't believe it. He's told me face to face. Like this is the argument I would use against.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He just wants stricter immigration. He just wants. He. He thinks people want to see like illegals being removed.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't. I think he is the troll du jour. He loves it so much. He loves Andy Kaufman.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Well, I have to check him for a jewel in his belly. On to you. Okay, Base Jew. I'm just here to give you my money. Thank you, Bass Jew.

[Phil Labonte]

Awesome.

[Adam Johnson]

Love that guy. Follow me forever. Awesome guy.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Really.

[Chrissy Mayer]

House of Good. Oops. We already read that one. Oh, let's see. Let's see. Pelican Mafia. Metro Surge. It's got electrolytes.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

This is good right here.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yes. Ginger Cast. Rumble rant from Bill Dozer 74 for. Thanks to Chrissy for the laughs. Thank you for finding all the compliments, Serge. Thanks to Christy for the last. Really needed it. We had to put one of my cats down this evening.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm sorry.

[Chrissy Mayer]

We had Oreo for six years. He was a good boy. My wife and kids loved him and so did I. Rest in peace. Oh, get a new cat. Call him Chip Ahoy.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Nice.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, sorry, Bill. Sorry about your cat.

[Adam Johnson]

Sorry.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Get a dog now. Since dogs are better.

[Phil Labonte]

You could get a dog dog.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Now it's time for a dog.

[Adam Johnson]

The cats. Cats are better, though.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

I agree. Yeah.

[Chrissy Mayer]

He had a good nine lives.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, let's. I think I'm trying to find more.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

Almost.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

We're almost running dry here.

[Chrissy Mayer]

There's a couple that are in here like surge.com says. Hey, guys, I think Tim might not have been on tonight. What?

[Phil Labonte]

Did you see the thumbnail though?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

I was testy earlier, but it's okay.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, that was you?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Great.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Sweet it. Rumble Rant. Ian somehow managed to roll a natural zero. The ted. What is that? Oh, is that Dungeons and Dragons reference? Oh, I knew that the Ted offensive was a decisive victory for the U.S. well, what is it? Natural zero.

[Ian Crossland]

They call a lot of that because they lost less troops. A natural zero means you rolled a 20 sided die and you got a zero, which is impossible because it only goes 1 through 20. It was a joke. So magic. It would have been a one if it were really playing D and D. And you thought I critically failed. The government does call these things victories because they lost less troops. But I mean, the United States got obliterated in the Vietnam War. They just got constantly. Dudes got their legs blown off. It was horror for everyone involved. Maybe, except for dudes at base camp. Maybe the smell was the worst part of it. I hear if you listen to troops talk about the smell and the heat, it was not a victory. And yes, there were many engagements that they did lose. I looked it up after we had the conversation earlier. But the Tet Offensive is not listed as one of them because it was a large, large general offensive. There were many engagements within it.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

True.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Wow. Yeah. My dad was in Vietnam. Graham. Rumble Ranch. Shout out to fnt. Yes. Shout out to fnt. And fat Electrician. Eugene Ballard and Sergeant Reckless are two of my favorite videos. The fat electrician also did a video on the TED offensive.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

Yep.

[Adam Johnson]

He's also a black belt in jiu jitsu and has a gym. I had no idea.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm gonna go out there and roll with him this year. I'm excited about it.

[Phil Labonte]

He must break you.

[Chrissy Mayer]

The Fawn 501st petition to name the next US Super Carrier. The USS Lobster Fest.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes.

[Chrissy Mayer]

I love that. Why not name it something upbeat and fun?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah. All right. I guess we could wrap it now. How do you feel about that?

[Chrissy Mayer]

I feel good about that. How do you guys feel about that?

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Yeah, I think it's all right.

[Adam Johnson]

We should sell the names. Like we do stadiums instead of stuff. We should USS Morgan and Morgan.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yeah, Advertising. Does anybody have any final.

[Adam Johnson]

Have any final thoughts?

[Phil Labonte]

Smash the like button. Share the show with your friends. Share the show with your mom. Everyone you know, go to timcast.com Become a member of our Discord. You can call in after the show. Go to rumble.com and become a member at Rumble. So you can watch the after show, which is going to start in just a couple minutes.

[Ian Crossland]

The way you do that, go to timcast.com, you join the server if you haven't done that yet. And then once you're joined up and you've paid your $10 a to join the network on the left, there's a button that says Discord might even be on the screen right here. And that's going to take you to a link which you click to take you to the Discord. And that's where we're going to be.

[Carter Banks]

Also important, because what you were saying earlier about joining the Discord we played a minute of a song on the Discord. So if you were in there, you already heard it. But it's getting released tonight at midnight.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, we go. We go live on the discord server 6:30pm every day before we go live on IRL. So get in there and get ready with Slick and Olivia. They host the show. It's super cool.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Get in there, guys.

[Adam Johnson]

Get it.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Smash the like button.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

Let's just show this really fast for. For Carter here as well. This is where the never the. The single is from. Alex, Bianca, right? Yeah. Single is right here, guys. It's never.

[Carter Banks]

Yeah. Tonight if you go. I mean, you go right now to buy never again.com and pre save it and. Or pre download it on itunes. And then tonight I will put up a lyric video at trash house records.

[Phil Labonte]

YouTube.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

So nice.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Is there a music video?

[Carter Banks]

The best I could do. Yes. It's a music video with lyrics in it. I would call it a lyric peering.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Through the window in the rain or something like that.

[Carter Banks]

It's her on a beach. Oh, Just dancing around, singing the song.

[Chrissy Mayer]

That sounds fun.

[Unidentified Guest/Caller]

All right, let's do some round outs, guys.

[Chrissy Mayer]

All right. See you guys over there.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, let's. I want to outro myself.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, I'm so sorry.

[Adam Johnson]

You don't know who the hell I am.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Two nights in a row. Ian, tell me, do you have any.

[Ian Crossland]

Idea who I am?

[Chrissy Mayer]

I'm so sorry. I'm so.

[Carter Banks]

Adam.

[Phil Labonte]

Adam, thanks for coming. Why don't you go ahead and tell everyone? Thank you.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Oh, my God. Thank you.

[Adam Johnson]

Hi, my name is Adam Johnson. You can find me on Twitter lecternleader. You can get my book and some really fun merchandise on my website. Unlicensed furniture movers dot com. But most importantly, go to my campaign website, Vote AdamJohnson dot com. We're going to win this race. We need good leaders at home at a local level because all the hard work, all the good work starts in our backyards.

[Ian Crossland]

That's true. I'm at Ian Crossland. Follow me on the Internet at Ian Crossland. Follow me on Instagram, YouTube and X. Primarily where I do most of my business and go to. Graphene movie. Check out the new documentary. It's the trailer. Sign up for the mailing list and then you'll get notified when the movie's live. Graphene movie. Carter Banks.

[Carter Banks]

I'm at Carter Banks everywhere too. Also been shooting a lot of green rooms lately. We did one the other day. They're just fun before the show stuff. And I'm like Really enjoying the doing them because they're like live immersive in the city seat. So a little bit of a new way to do it. But yeah, check that out on the Tim Cast Rumble. And also yeah, the song is coming out tonight by Alex Bianca. It's really good. I'm gonna have a lot more music for you coming soon. Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that Remains on Twix. The band is all that Remains. We are going on tour this spring. We're going out with Born of Osiris and Dead eyes. We start April 29th in Albany. You can check out all that Remains on at all that Remains online Dot com. You can get tickets. There's still VIP available. You can check out all that Remains at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Crime and not Asian drivers.

[Phil Labonte]

No, go fast in the left lane. Don't, don't get in the left lane.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Or get out of the way.

[Phil Labonte]

That's right.

[Ian Crossland]

Chrissy Mayor, you got the last word.

[Chrissy Mayer]

Yes. This was so much fun. Thank you for having me. Not once but twice. That's what she said. Follow me on Twitter, on Instagram. I do a show every Sunday at 9pm Eastern called Simpkins Cast. It's like a fun panel show with based ladies on it and then every Friday night catch me on Friday night tights on Nerd Rodic's YouTube channel. YouTube and Rumble and all that good stuff. Yeah, I also do a bunch of interviews. I'm going to be interviewing, I think Vic Minana soon coming up. So I interview a lot of folks who have been like canceled or misunderstood or you know, bad people, right wingers, etc so yeah, subscribe all that good stuff. I do stand up comedy but check for dates on my website chrissymayer.com we'll be booking some of those probably out into the spring because I have a soon to be two year old so and he's terrible at selling merch so I have to wait for him to just like get a little better at the biz. Thank you guys so much for watching and we'll see you over on the Members channel. Bye.