
JFK FILES RELEASED, Shocking Documents Released By Trump DROPPED w/Amber Duke
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Tim Pool
This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Fiscally responsible financial geniuses, monetary magicians. These are things people say about drivers who switch their car insurance to Progressive and save hundreds. Visit progressive.com to see if you could save Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates. Potential savings will vary. Not available in all states or situations. JFK files got released so we've got 80,000 pages. They just dropped within I think 30 minutes. So very little is known just yet. But I won't bury the lead. Many people are already saying those with privy access, you are going to be disappointed. That's not to say there aren't going to be interesting things and revelations in here. I think the general assessment is yo, they're going to say the story is the story but we are getting some interesting documents about what was going on around the world, how powerful world leaders were reacting and there is some new information. So we can give you a little bit as again, the story has just dropped. Definitely we're going to dive into this and break down exactly what's going on with the release of the JFK files. Outside of that, ladies and gentlemen, yo, there's a couple videos from Kansas City and Vegas, these Tesla dealerships. I think it's fair to say that we are at the front door of Weather Underground type terror attacks. And I wonder if it's actually maybe even beyond that. You know, with the Weather Underground it was the thousands of explosions but they say it was mostly shock and awe. What we're seeing now is attempts on the lives of conservatives. We've got even more swatting. I think we may be up to around 18 or 19 swattings. And these are, these are attempts to kill conservative individuals as they swat their homes. And it's seemingly getting worse. Elon Musk has decried the, the acts of terror against him and, and his dealerships. This is particularly crazy. We have two new stories in this regard and then of course one of the biggest stories of the day. Donald Trump's feud with the judge who argued he had equitable power to the president to force him to return military flights to this country. Absolutely insane. Justice Roberts chimed in over Trump's demand that this judge be impeached. When will talk about that, my friends? Also, we got cast brew coffee. Have you ever wondered what the best cup of coffee in the world tastes like? Well, wonder no more. Simply buy some Appalachian Nights. You can argue Graphene Dream is better, but unfortunately it's still sold out. We are working as hard as we can to get it back in stock, but check out Appalachian nights@cast brew.com stand your grounds and in memory of our deceased friend Mr. Bocus, you can pick up a bag of focus with Mr. Bocus Espresso Roast. Very great. And don't forget to join Rumble Premium this morning. I am proud to announce with the new Rumble lineup that we've launched the Tim Cast daily News show at rumble.com/. Tim Cast was the number one live stream in the country in the noon slot. So it is an honor and a privilege. Steven Crowder was number one. Basically everybody was number one for their time slot. It's looking like tomorrow when the rankings come out, I think more than half of the top 10 live streams in the country will be on Rumble, which is nuts. They have become the premier video podcasting and live platform. If you use promo code TIM10, you can watch our green room podcast. It's a. I mean, these are behind the scenes. It's amazing stuff. Yesterday was really funny. We're not gonna have one up tonight, but definitely check out yesterday's Green room with Eleazar Perez because it's basically me just in a fervent rant about woke video games. And I can't say too much more because it might get as banned, but you know what I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's comedy. It's not really that bad. Check it out. Don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Amber Duke.
Amber Duke
Hey guys, I'm Amber Duke. I'm the senior editor for the Daily Caller and the co host of Rising at the Hill as well as free media at Reason. While you're at it, check out the YouTube channel Ask America with Edgar. He's the official DEI hire of the Daily Caller. I promise you won't regret it.
Tim Pool
Hi, Libby's here going.
Libby Emmons
I'm Libby. I'm here. I'm Libby Emmons with the Post Millennial and Human events dot com. Glad to be here. Glad to be here with you, Amber.
Phil Avanti
Hello everybody. My name is Phil Avanti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's go.
Tim Pool
Here's the huge news from the post millennial. 80,000 pages of files on JFK's assassination. Trump said those looking at the files have a lot of reading to do. Indeed they do. We have a couple of these documents pulled up around 80,000 pages of files having to do with the assassination. Of JFK have been released by the Trump administration as President Trump said he would do so on Monday. So thank you, Mr. President. When he announced the release on Monday, he said that those looking at the files with a lot of reading. As he visited JFK center, there were 1,123 new entries for the files of the National Archives. With many entries and having multiple pages. Now, the Daily Mail has already done a quick assessment. This is fascinating. Some news outlets, within the span of a half an hour, I'm assuming they get 100 people in the newsroom and they say, you take page one, you take page two, take page, take page three. And they all go through it and then say, tell me what you find. So we already have a general idea. One, nothing incriminating. You're not going to find any grassy knoll stuff. So the rumors say. I mean, we're still going to wait for a deeper assessment of this. The Daily Mail says JFK assassin and assassination files. Fifteen huge bombshells, including secret Jackie letter and missing conspiracy footage. Interesting. Jackie's letters to lbj. You've got Miami CAA files, Cuban assassins records, New Orleans paramilitary agents. I got one document that I think I actually still have pulled up and this is like, look, we went as fast as we can, and I'm not a historian of the JFK assassination, but this is a document pulled up from the JFK files making reference that Cuban diplomatic missions abroad started to go on high alert in fears. Now, you gotta understand Cuba, Communists, Cold War, assassination of jfk. And there were some serious fears. But I'm wondering if the journalists in the room have, if you guys have heard anything, if your newsrooms have pulled anything. I know there were some rumors that you were mentioning or something people might have seen.
Amber Duke
Yeah, nothing major yet. We ran the files through grok, which is the AI tool at X. And this is how it summed it up, which is that the files provide a lot more. More detail on Oswald's movements before the assassination attempt, particularly a trip he took to Mexico City six weeks before the assassination, where he met with Soviet and Cuban leaders at their embassies. But otherwise it says no major conspiracy breakthrough. If you're looking for that bombshell moment, you're probably not going to find it in these documents. Austin Peterson has a tweet out looking through the files that says, so far what I'm reading is it appears if they had been as if they had been withheld in part due to the discussion of national security secret. And as you kind of go through and Click on random pages. You'll see a lot about fighting communism in Cuba and the Soviet Union. And so a lot of it is actually related to foreign policy of JFK's administration rather than specifically the assassination.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I don't imagine that this is going to satisfy the people that are, you know, the second shooter people or the conspiracy people that think that it was CIA that did the, the assassination or whatever. This clearly, if I understand correctly so far, obviously I haven't had time to go through myself, but it, it doesn't have the things that people were hoping to have maybe.
Libby Emmons
Well, I mean, everybody was really hoping that there would be a document and they would download the document and it would say there were two shooters and CIA did it.
Tim Pool
Or maybe everybody wanted that, right? Now, from the archives, ladies and gentlemen, in one of the documents I have, there is a sentence saying that the CIA was responsible. Now hold on, hold on, let me read it for you. This is document number 104-101-7010145. You can find it in the archives. It's just. I'm going to read it. I don't know what it is because this stuff just came out. Memorandum subject Ramparts, John Garrett Underhill Jr. Samuel George Cummings and Interarmco 1 Ramparts of June 1967, Volume 5, Number 12, Pages 28, 29, contains the following passage about subjects. Quote, the day after the assassination, Gary Underhill left Washington in a hurry. Late in the evening he showed up at the home of friends in New Jersey who was very agitated. A small clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination. He confided, and he was afraid for his life and probably would have to leave the country. Less than six months later, Underhill was found shot to death in his Washington apartment. The coroner, coroner ruled it a suicide. Jay Garrett Underhill had been an intelligence agent during World War II and was a recognized authority on limited warfare and small arms. A researcher and writer on military affairs, he was on a first name basis with many of the top brass in the Pentagon. He was also on intimate terms with a number of high ranking CAA officials. He was one of the agency's UN people who performed special assignments. At one time he had been a friend of Samuel Cummings of Interamco, the arms broker that numbers among its customers, the CIA and ironically, Klein Sporting Goods of Chicago. Okay, from whence the mail order Carcano allegedly was purchased by Oswald. The friends whom Underwood Underhill visited say he was sober but badly shook. They say he attributed the Kennedy murder to see to a CIA click. Which was carrying on a lucrative racket in gun running narcotics and other contraband and manipulating political intrigue to serve its own ends. Kennedy supposedly got wind that something was going on and was killed before he could blow the whistle on it. Although the friends had always known Underhill to be perfectly rational, objective, they at first didn't take his account seriously. I think the main reason was, explains the husband, that we couldn't believe the CIA could contain a corrupt element every bit as ruthless and more efficient as the Mafia. The verdict of suicide in Underhill's death is by no means convincing. His body was found by a writing collaborator, Asher Burns. To the New Republic. He had been shot behind the left ear and an automatic pistol was left under his left side. Was under his left side. Odd, says Brian's. I'm sorry it's Brian's. Because Underhill was right handed. Brian's thinks the pistol was fitted with a silencer and occupants of the apartment building could not recall hearing a shot. Underhill obviously had been dead several days. Gary Underhill's chilling story is hardly implausible. As a spy apparatus, the CIA is honeycombed with self contained clicks, operating without any real central control. A check of agency records has yielded the following information about John Garrett Underhill. Now there's more. He's a date of birth7 August 1915. This is. I'm not entirely sure what this document is again. This just could be someone I don't know pulling an excerpt from a fictional story. Who knows? Until we can actually break this down and figure out why this document is in the JFK files, I want to stress this. I, I want you guys to hear watch, we'll pull it up. Grab this here's archive.gov National Archives. Here's the file. I'm clicking it right now. And this is the file in question that we just read where they tell the story of a man who apparently, I'm assuming he's a real guy. Unless the archives include a fictional tale of intrigue. What do you guys think?
Phil Avanti
They put it in there just to satisfy the people that are desiring of this is the actual conspiracy that never happened. It's just a paper they slid in there so that way they can calm all the people that are like, there's something, there's got to be a second shooter. There's got to be something. It's a chill.
Libby Emmons
I just looked it up. I mean I, I have a picture of his gravestone, a picture of him as a young man, a picture of his death certificate. Yes, all of it. All of his made up, going way back. He was a writer and researcher in the area of military affairs who is alleged to have had high level Pentagon connections.
Phil Avanti
Never existed, never happened.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, there's a lot of stories about him going back for a long way.
Amber Duke
Sounds Clinton esque.
Libby Emmons
A little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Or that, that crazy case in Pennsylvania where the woman stabbed herself 23 times and it was ruled a suicide.
Amber Duke
That's right.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. That's wild.
Phil Avanti
Well, again, this is interesting.
Tim Pool
Let me pull this up. A simple Google search of the individual. Now I want to stress, guys, that the records just dropped. So we here haven't had a chance to go through anything. For all I know there's some dude out there watching being like, dude, that was a fictional story that, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why it would be in the. But J. John Garrett Underhill Jr. Has a Wikipedia entry and it says he was an army captain general during World War II, blah, blah, blah. He's Harvard graduate. He was a military correspondent for Life magazine and helped make their foreign news department one of the most knowledgeable centers of military intelligence in the world. So he died. John Garrett Underhill. That's the name they said, right? Yeah, it says he died in 1964. So I'm not, I'm not. Or this was. This is his son I'm imagining, right? No, no. John Garrett Underhill Jr. So it says ramparts of June 1967. I wonder what year they're claiming that. I don't know. I have to look into it. Obviously they go to mention that Jim Garrison, District Attorney for Louisiana, conducted an investigation to the assassination of Kennedy. In an interview with it that Garrison gave to Playboy magazine, he referred to a CIA agent with valuable information pertaining to his investigation. The name of Gary Underhill was used interchangeably in sources with John Garrett Underhill. A memorandum from the CIA to the Justice Department in 1967. Refer to the interview and John Garrett Underhill in some detail. I'm wondering, was this previously. This document previously disclosed, is this just relating to a guy who had claimed this earlier on? No idea.
Libby Emmons
No idea.
Tim Pool
I'll just tell you this. This is in there.
Libby Emmons
Well, if you look at it, there's 112 pages of PDF files of like 10 PDFs per page. So it's thousands of documents here. And then each one, I mean, any document you open, it could be, you know, 20 pages. Here's one. This is 18 pages. Here's one. That's 16 pages, 21 pages. So it's a lot of pages to read through. And what's interesting to me is this is basically what everybody asked for, you know, the release of these files. But I think that people forget that when you ask for the release of files. Just total transparency. There's absolutely no context. There's no timeline. There's no order that you should read the files in. Some of them are like memo cover sheets without the, you know, accompanying. Accompanying documentation that was referenced in the memoir. So it really takes a lot of, like, you almost want to print it all out and put it in a big pile and get someone to collate it in some kind of order so that you could look through it and assign context that you know about from the time period. Like this happened then, this happened then, but just in a big dump like this. This is like multiple different people's files. You know, everyone's doing different areas of research, and there was no through line given. We just know some facts. And now there's all of this information, and you don't know how to assign the information to the existing story. That makes it a lot more difficult to understand even what you have in your hands.
Amber Duke
You also don't know if it really is all of the files, because when we got the 2017 dump, there were about 3,000 records at the time. And then in February just a month ago, they found an additional 2400 that had been basically misclassified and they were unrecognized as pertaining to the JFK assassination. So I don't think it's unreasonable to think that there could be other files floating around that are classified the wrong way and therefore not contained in this massive dump.
Libby Emmons
Well, that's like with the Epstein files, right? So.
Amber Duke
Exactly.
Libby Emmons
They thought they had a whole bunch of files, and then it turns out that there's boxes, more files that are unmarked, unclassified. I mean, for whatever reason. Tim.
Tim Pool
I'm just saying, like, you know, are we going to get any of that?
Libby Emmons
I don't think we're ever going to get the Epstein stuff.
Tim Pool
I don't think it's. I don't think it exists.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, I think that it's too analog, too old.
Phil Avanti
Epstein stuff.
Tim Pool
Yeah. No, I think the Epstein stuff is likely. A powerful, wealthy guy said, for the love of all that is holy, I will pay you any amount of money to destroy that so I don't go to prison.
Libby Emmons
We already learned that government agencies destroy documents all the time on purpose.
Tim Pool
Indeed.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. Like with knowledge document destroying day, everyone get the burn bags.
Phil Avanti
Right. Yeah, well, yeah, we were, they were talking about burn bags just the other day. Yeah, you know, I mean, I, I assume that the, the references to the burn bags the other day have nothing to do with either Epstein or with.
Libby Emmons
No, I think it's just standard procedure.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I think that the, the government likes to have as little accountability as possible. And I, I think that, you know, people can, people can pish posh that or whatever that, but it's, it's clear the government likes to classify things to avoid accountability. They over classify things. This is something you hear over and over when it comes to, you know, people that were, that either were in Congress or people that were in the bureaucracy. It's normal for the government to over classify things because that prevents them from being on the hook for having to answer things. So whether if things are, are classified or whether they're burning them to destroy things or whatever, the less accountability the government has, the better they like it.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. Plus, I mean, you don't want to end up on a addition of hoarders, you know, government hoarders. You ever see hoarders? Yes, but just making a joke.
Phil Avanti
Nowadays there's not really, there's not really, there's not really the possibility of that anymore because like, you know, it's all digital now.
Libby Emmons
Well, you can still be a digital hoarder. Do you remember this conversation about CL change? There was a conversation a couple years ago, it was like, to prevent climate change, clear your digital files. You're not entitled to that much hard drive space, that much cloud space. You have to clear the, yeah, yeah, clear your files for climate change.
Phil Avanti
For climate change. No, I, I, I was unaware of that.
Libby Emmons
But instead of just like ramping up your Good grief, Dropbox account, you know, or whatever it is.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I, I, I've never heard of, of digital hoarding. I know people that, you know, I know dudes that are, you know, in the music industry that have the hard drives of everything that they've ever produced or everything they've ever worked on. They, you know, they don't ever get rid of things and stuff. But I think that when it comes to the federal government, it's, it should be normal for them to keep documents and they should be accessible with a FOIA request or whatever, because the federal government should be, and I understand that this is a little pie in the sky probably, but they should be accountable to the American people. And if, if there's a FOIA request and, and the American people want to see information, they should, they should have access to it. They're spending our money. They're supposed to be serving us. The things that they do are supposed to be in service for the American people and for, to better our position globally. And so, you know, unless it's something that is actually classified for good reason, then it should be something that the American people could see.
Libby Emmons
Well, there's a lot of Cuba stuff in here.
Amber Duke
Yeah, a lot of Cuba stuff, a lot of Soviet Union stuff. And the last time I was here, we were talking about the Epstein files. It was the day that the influencers got the infamous binders. And then they had that 8am deadline the next morning where Pam Bonney was demanding the, the documents from the FBI field office in New York and the Southern district of New York. Now, she claims she has a quote unquote truckload of documents, but it's been two weeks since that deadline passed and we haven't heard any update about when they're actually supposed to be released, if at all.
Phil Avanti
I think that the, the desire for this administration to answer, to provide an answer to the people that voted hoping for information about these things, I think that they're, they're being in a hurry to answer them and have something for them has put them in bad positions because maybe the information that people are expecting doesn't actually exist. Maybe the government isn't going to be able to produce it for them. So they're, they've been step, they've been out over their skis.
Amber Duke
You never want to over promise.
Phil Avanti
Yeah.
Amber Duke
Under deliver.
Phil Avanti
Yeah. And that's something that, that has happened multiple times. And now there's a lot of people that are going like, oh, Trump tricked you again. Trump tricked you again. And it's like, maybe the stuff wasn't, maybe he shouldn't have said what he said and maybe the information just isn't there. Like we were talking about the Epstein stuff. I, I think that it's likely gone. It probably was gone a long time ago.
Tim Pool
People are saying sham Bondi and scam Bondi.
Phil Avanti
Yeah. You know, and I mean, look, they, they probably have a point they, they shouldn't have made. Like you said, they should not have made promises that they couldn't deliver and.
Amber Duke
She shouldn't have marched into that room with the influencers and dropped off the binder without consulting with the rest of the administration. I mean, there were a lot of reports, and I don't usually put much stock into mainstream media reports about palace intrigue type stories, but this is consistent with what I've heard, which is that People were not happy within the administration about how the Attorney General handled that situation. And they felt like it made them look like idiots.
Libby Emmons
Well, in both of these cases, what should have happened is there should have been a release of the files concurrent with a press conference.
Amber Duke
Right.
Libby Emmons
Where the administration detailed what they discovered in the files. So for example, with the JFK thing, Pam Bondi should have had a press conference. Anna Paulina Luna should have been there. She's been all over this. And they should have said in our looking through these files, these are a few things that we found that people might be. Might think is interesting. We did not find any backup for these conspiracy theories or whatever else, but they should have taken the time to go through them themselves. And the same thing should have happened with the Epstein files. Instead of giving the folders to a bunch of people who, I don't know if you saw, Mike Cernovich did a whole video on it that I thought that I watched because I was like, what did happen? You know? And instead of just giving binders to people who didn't have their phones and weren't about to go on air and discuss, it should have been a press conference like, this is what we have, this is what's going on. Instead with the Epstein stuff, they increased the mystery and increased the level of distrust and there was absolutely no reason to do that. And they threw those influencers and journalists and stuff, they just threw them under the bus. They all ended up taking the heat for something that was not their fault at all.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I think that the.
Libby Emmons
And there was nothing in the binders for them to really discuss once they even got on air.
Phil Avanti
The idea of a press conference probably was actually a good idea. Like if they had someone go out and say, look, there is a bullet points that are actually, are going to be. People are going to be interested in. It's not hard to figure out the things that people are, you know, the questions that are going to be asked, but they should have been able to answer questions and talk about it. And it probably would have diffused a lot of the, A lot of the criticism that they've. They've taken so far.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen. It's getting hot out there. And with the latest string of terror attacks at various Tesla dealerships, I gotta say, it's feeling like we're entering Weather Underground levels of terror. I wasn't alive, of course, so there's no way for me to remember that, but I can only read about it. But the videos that are coming out from these attacks. They're nuts. We'll play one of the videos for you in a second, but take a look at this from the Guardian. FBI investigates blazes at Las Vegas Tesla showroom as potential terrorism. We have this story from the Verge. Multiple, multiple Tesla vehicles were set on fire in Las Vegas and Kansas City. Again, we have videos of both of these incidents. I want you to take a look at this. Several vehicles set on fire at Tesla in Las Vegas. Police say this video is absolutely insane. Crazy.
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Tim Pool
Are just listening, there's no sound, but the vehicles are exploding. These are massive electric batteries. And this is Elon Musk tweets 100 violent terrorism.
Phil Avanti
It is. And I, I mean this is the behavior of the left. They've been allowed to do this for the past, you know, longer than the past five years. Because it really did work up to the Summer of Love that we had. Right. So there was FERGUSON in what, 2013, I think is when the, something like that, I think it was like 2013. And then there were all the riots at, at schools when they were trying to shut down speakers and all the violence that was going on there. And then it kind of came to a crescendo in 2020. But the left has been violent and destroying property and firebombing things for the better part of the past 10 years.
Libby Emmons
Well, and I mean go back to the 60s.
Phil Avanti
Well, sure, sure, yeah. Well, I mean if you go back to the, if you just go back to the 80s and there was a bombing in Congress, like whether it wasn't.
Libby Emmons
Weather underground was like 60s, Weather Underground.
Phil Avanti
Was in the 70s between 72, they, they, they set off 2, 500 bombs in the United States and then they built, they did a bunch of bombs throughout the rest of the 70s, and.
Libby Emmons
Then they blow up a brownstone, Greenwich Village.
Phil Avanti
They did kill someone. So, I mean, this is not the idea that the, the, the left is, is passive or whatever is ridiculous. And it's something that the FBI, they should do everything they can to round these people up and put them in jail forever or for as long as possible.
Tim Pool
Here's, here's the video out of Kansas. And again, I guess there's no audio on this, or is this, is that us? Okay, so I guess these videos don't have any sound. This is a guy who tweeted, just drove by local Kansas City Tesla dealership, barely caught footage of a girl in a black dress running away. Y'all, this is getting scary. The Daily Beast. Elon Musk cries terrorism after Las Vegas Tesla car fires.
Libby Emmons
That is terrorism. It's, it is a terrorist act.
Amber Duke
And the White House said in a press briefing, I believe it was last week or the week prior last week, like March 12th or something, that they were going to be investigating these as domestic terror incidents. And just like that article, the media started making fun of them and basically telling them not to believe their lying eyes. They pulled a fiery but mostly peaceful moment. We did a roundup of this at the Daily Caller. Vox characterized it as, quote, very spirited, peaceful demonstrations. And an MSNBC anchor said, just to be clear, you protest a private company, you are labeled by this administration a domestic terrorist. These aren't protests. These are acts of violence. I mean, it's, it should be obvious, but these people are obsessed with running cover for, for the worst of society, whether it's trend Aragua, people being deported or people firebombing Tesla dealerships.
Tim Pool
Let me play this clip from. This is Charlie Kirk. What does Trump expect? Oh, I believe he expects violence. I believe he expects confrontation. I believe he's working toward a civil war. That's Maxine Waters. Then we have this. This is data analyst Barbara Walter, hired by the CIA to predict the likelihood of civil wars developing in foreign countries. She believes the United States is potentially years away from another civil war. These are people on the left. So what I love about this is they're going to lie to you. And what you need to understand, we here at Tim Cast have been bringing up the possibility of civil war for some time. Many of you may not know that. And the response from liberals has always been to take clips and insult me and the show and say either we are trying to make it happen or we are crazy people for Suggesting it could. At the same time, while they're putting out that outward propaganda to say, haha, look how stupid these people are, their experts and politicians behind the scenes have been warning them it is coming for some time. So I think the, the difficult question, or I should say the difficult scenario, the better way to put it, as we watch them engage in overt acts of terror against Elon Musk. And it is terrorist. They are attacking Tesla dealerships not because they don't like his cars, not because he mistreats employees or any other accusation they may have come up with, but literally because he's working with the current administration that is purely political. And while we are watching it happen with our own eyes, the media is coming out and saying it's a protest, it's a protest, it's a protest. They did this in 2020. Peaceful protest, mostly peaceful protests. They're not going to stop lying. And so you need to understand something. The people who write those articles and go on the MSNBC shows, do you believe these people genuinely don't understand what they're doing? I do not believe for two seconds that you can watch a bunch of black clad individuals firebomb buildings and then call that a peaceful protest. Knowingly. No one is that stupid. They're obfuscating and covering up for their revolutionaries or whatever you'd want to call them for their terrorists. And they want to keep as many people in the dark as possible for as long as possible and shift the blame to those that are being attacked.
Libby Emmons
Well, yeah, and they don't want you to, like you were saying, they don't want you to think that it's terrorism. They go out of their way to make sure to use softer language. It's like the fiery but mostly peaceful protests that we saw in August 2020 in Kenosha, Wisconsin, which was absolutely insane. And you actually had the, the Trump rapid response Twitter account put out a tweet just like a video from msnbc. I think I want to say it was Abby Phillip. Is she cnn? Whatever. Anyway, I want to say it was Abby Phillip talking about how these were not terrorist attacks. They're, you know, it's just a protest. And then they put the clip of fiery but mostly peaceful from that summer in 2020 on the end of it just to make the point. And that is, that is the point. That is what these, that is what these pundits are doing. They're very clear that they want this to be called a protest. And I don't know how you guys deal with it at Daily Caller. But I think a lot of times when we're running stories about protests or whatever, we're careful. If. If you're occupying a building and beating up janitors at Columbia University, we're not calling you protesters.
Amber Duke
No, I mean, no, we. We don't sanitize our language. We call things what they are. Which is the role of alternative and conservative media, because it should be, but it's not. So you have to have the alternative to present people with factual information. And one of the other things that I've been sort of tracking in relation to these Tesla, when you had, like, one or two, you think, okay, is this just a handful of crazy people who really hate Elon Musk? But it's becoming clear that this is organized. They have a hashtag for it. There's actually a website, which I won't name because I don't want people to go to it, where they're not only listing addresses of Tesla dealerships and Doge employees, but now they're even including private Tesla owners. So just random Americans who own a Tesla. And if you drive around the DC area, you will see people, they've started putting bumper stickers on the back of their Tesla that say, I bought this before I knew. Elon Musk is crazy. And that's a signal to their buddies, hey, don't torch my car.
Tim Pool
You know, I think it was before the show we were mentioning that Rudyard lynch was wrong. Yeah, he told us he came on the show. What was it, November or something?
Phil Avanti
Say November.
Tim Pool
Yeah, November. And he said that he has a standing bet with somebody, $1,000 that by April, 1,000 people will be dead for political reasons. So far, I think the number may be in 20s or so political deaths in the past four months. So we say he's wrong. He's completely wrong. Now, the terrifying thing is with only about. What are we looking at? 13 days until April when he made his prediction. We are looking at extreme acts of terror at Tesla dealerships. And then I think about what Erik Prince told me when I asked him if he thought based on all the things that he had seen, you know, this is the guy who's. He's the private military contractor guy, right? Yes. I said, after all the things he's seen, does he think the US could go into one of these collapses, civil wars or otherwise? And he said, the one thing that everybody in the business will tell you is that it happens overnight. One day everything's normal, the next day, there's no Internet, there's no electricity, there's no garbage service, the water's not running. And most people think there's going to be a slow buildup. But I'll add on top of that, you know, with all due respect to Mary Morgan, we're big fans, but she is young. She's 24. She's 24. Right. Anyway, host of Pop Culture Crisis. Shout out. And she said she's in the nothing ever happens camp. And I was just like, you know, I thought about that. When Donald Trump descended from that escalator, something happened. And for most of us, we're all older. You guys are older than me. It was like, holy crap. What? Like nothing happening is politician in suit argues with politician in suit. The joke that Futurama made was what Jim Johnson and John Jimson or whatever clones of each other were debating, but they agreed on everything. That's how people in the 2000s viewed politics. Nothing ever happened. And then Trump stepped up. Something happened. Trump was accused of being a Russian spy. Trump was impeached twice. There was scandal after scandal after scandal. The media wouldn't shut up. And Mary says, nothing ever happens. I'm like, that's because Mary was 14 when Trump descended that escalator. For her entire adult life, she has been living in the heat, in the fray of this political. Of stuff happening.
Libby Emmons
So much stuff.
Tim Pool
It's relative. So what we are looking at now, it is remarkable to me when I talk to someone and say, you really don't think a civil war is possible? No, it's not possible. And I'm like, after everything that's happened, they. It's like, I'm still talking to people. It's like, did you see the bullet graze the head of the president? And they're like, I don't know. People live in the moment. And what happens is if things get too hot too quick, people freak out. But if things are just getting hotter, very slowly, people adapt. It's boiling frogs. Right?
Libby Emmons
Well, the thing too, I've been thinking about as we have the release of the JFK files. And Trump has also promised Martin Luther King Jr. Files, Bobby Kennedy assassination files. And I was thinking about how that was an assassination era. I was thinking about my mom. My parents lived through this period of time when the President got assassinated. You know, one of the nation's top civic leaders got. Got assassinated. The brother of the, you know, two of them. President got. Got assassinated. Yeah. It was mlk, RFK and jfk. And they just all got assassinated. I mean, living. Malcolm X. Yeah. Malcolm X got assassinated. Yeah. Yeah. How do I Forget about Malcolm X. I just remember the zoots suits from that Malcolm X movie. But yeah, I mean, this was, this was a lot of assassinations that we're talking about. A lot of that, you know, a lot of assassinations. And there was no, you could say there was no civil war, but there was certainly a massive uprising. There were massive social unrest, civil strife for sure. I mean, you had. People got shot at universities, shot to death at Kent State. You had. Yeah. You had civil rights activists getting murdered all through the South. White civil rights activists, black civil rights activists. You had lynchings. You had Emmett Till, which is a crazy in the 60s, wasn't it? It was like all around that period. Was that before? Was that the 50s or was that the 60s?
Tim Pool
Emmett Till was 55.
Libby Emmons
55. So yeah, that was early. But during that period of time you had lynching, certainly. I don't crazy. You had KKK burning crosses.
Tim Pool
Right. I don't know where this all goes. I'm just saying that it is worse now than it was last year. It's worse now than it was than.
Libby Emmons
It was in 2020.
Tim Pool
Yes, that. When, when you had. Well, it depends.
Libby Emmons
That was contained.
Tim Pool
Well, I would say it depends on how you frame things. Right. The thing about 2020 is you have this quote unquote pandemic. I'm sorry, let me rephrase that. What I mean to say is quote unquote pandemic lockdown the systems of governance where they said we're going to mandate all these different policies. I believe there was a pandemic, I'm arguing from the government's government side that led to people protesting en masse across the country and some of the worst riots we've seen in a long time. The reason why I say it's worse now is that riots are riots and you lock people in their homes for several months and their brains are going to boil and you're going to get riots. And riots sometimes happen. And those riots were bad. What we're looking at is two assassination attempts on the front runner for the presidency who eventually won a bullet that grazed his head and now terroristic targeting of not just Tesla dealerships, but I think we're looking at almost 20 prominent personalities in media supporting the President have been targeted with swatting calls in this. In the summer of love, the government.
Libby Emmons
Had the assassination of a health care executive.
Tim Pool
That's right. In the summer of love, you had.
Amber Duke
Right.
Tim Pool
Two of them.
Amber Duke
There was a lower level one that was. Right like two weeks ago.
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah.
Libby Emmons
Oregon.
Tim Pool
So in 2020 you had riots and they were really bad. And then in Seattle and stuff, you got the. The autonomous zones really crazy. Today you are getting leftists directly targeting political. Perceived political opponents. So riots in general are people running around screaming, smashing things. That's their own cities. I was talking to somebody and I was debating civil war with them. And it was on the show, I can't remember what show was probably last year. And they said, that's insane. I go outside, nobody's talking about civil war. Right? Who, who do you think is going to fight a civil war? If I go outside, nobody cares. And I said, do you think People in 1862 in Atlanta walked out of their houses, looked at the neighbor and said, are you a Yank? I'll fight you? No, they were all Southerners. They walked outside and said, who's talking about civil war? The fight was on the front lines in Pennsylvania or in Maryland, in West Virginia. It wasn't in next door.
Libby Emmons
Well, or people.
Tim Pool
People don't understand that when we are talking about escalation of civil war, whether it could happen, I don't know. I'm not saying it will. The difference between five years ago and today is the direct targeting of political opponents with extreme violence and attempted murder.
Libby Emmons
Well, and you also have for decades. Well, not, maybe not decades, but you certainly have for years the Democrat politicians calling for this very thing. You had Maxine Waters during the first Trump administration saying, call out Trump officials where you see them. Sarah Sanders was forced out of a Waffle House at one point. You had. What was it Hakeem Jeffries was recently talking about? We're gonna take this fight to the streets. You have a lot like, that's. That's a. That's a standard rhetorical practice of Democrats, is that we're going to have street violence.
Amber Duke
Also, everyone forgets about the attempted assassination of multiple Republican members of Congress with the Alexandria baseball shooting.
Tim Pool
Right?
Amber Duke
Yeah, yeah. In the Supreme Court, there was a guy who went to kill Brett Kavanaugh.
Tim Pool
Let me pull up this story. This is from the San Francisco Chronicle. Police arrest person in Bay Area viral video suspected of King Tesla in Costco parking lot. I love how they say suspected. And here's a picture of him doing it.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
You know what's fascinating to me is that Tesla vehicles have. Do I have another one of these? Yeah. So we have this terror suspect was filmed engaged in an anti Tesla attack in Dallas, Fort Worth. The FBI is looking for any information to bring him to justice. They're saying to call the FBI field office. Do these people not know that Tesla vehicles are covered in cameras. So what we're seeing, which I think is terrifying, I don't really care if someone gets their. Their, Their car keyed, you know, nobody gets hurt. It's. It's damage. You go to jail for it. I think. I think. Isn't this guy being charged with a felony? He's being charged with felony destruction or something like that.
Libby Emmons
Felony vandalism, Something like that.
Tim Pool
It is. Arrested person King was a problem response to the city's mayor a video apparently recorded by the Tesla itself because they have cameras all over the place. Let's see. Chief Paul. I thought. I thought it was. I don't know if it's in here as a felony.
Libby Emmons
We have a story. I can find it.
Tim Pool
Yeah, see if you can find it. I thought it was felony destruction of property or something. The crazy thing about all of these attacks, be it the arc set of the Tesla dealerships, is what foments these things earlier. You're mentioning that it's organized, Amber. It kind of is and kind of isn't. I would. I would refer to this as the ice bucket challenge of, of terrorism.
Amber Duke
Yeah, I think that's fair. They're not like meeting in a central location and sending out terrorists.
Tim Pool
They're going on TikTok, right. Seeing the video and then running out to join in the trend.
Libby Emmons
Felony vandalism.
Tim Pool
Felony vandalism. Good. Lock them up.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I think the more people that actually see serious, serious result repercussions because from this, the better. Because there's nothing that's gonna, you know, gonna disincentivize people from this. Unless there's.
Tim Pool
I don't think it matters.
Phil Avanti
Government doing something.
Tim Pool
You don't. I don't know.
Libby Emmons
I don't think it matters either. Because they want to get arrested. Look at Congress. Every time there's a. Every time there's a they want to get arrested attention.
Phil Avanti
They don't want to go to jail for a long time.
Tim Pool
Yeah, but we're. We're once again. That's why it's. It's the ice bucket challenge of terror. When they, when they perp walk, it's a celebration for them.
Amber Duke
That's a martyr. I mean, and plus, what about this administration would make you think that they're not going to take this seriously? I mean, they literally just deported a professor who attended a funeral of a top Hezbollah official. Like they're not playing around.
Tim Pool
Remember that guy whose name we forgot lit himself on fire?
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Amber Duke
Oh, yeah.
Tim Pool
I don't.
Amber Duke
I remember his name.
Phil Avanti
I remember his name, but I'm not going to say.
Amber Duke
I'd say same.
Tim Pool
I don't, I don't remember. I recommend people not immolate themselves like this. Why would someone do that?
Libby Emmons
The guy who did it outside the Trump.
Amber Duke
There's been like seven of them, by the way, in the past year and a half.
Tim Pool
What was it was over Israel, right?
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Was it over Israel?
Libby Emmons
It was an Israel guy. Yeah.
Tim Pool
So when you, When I think we pulled this up yesterday and we talked about there was a guy who vandalized a bunch of Tesla chargers and set fires and then spray painted Long live Ukraine. And I'm like, this guy doesn't know where Ukraine is on a map. Three years ago, he didn't know Ukraine existed. What drove him so insane? And that's the point with the stuff that we are seeing. If you say we're gonna, we're gonna arrest him and Trump's gonna come in, they will cheer for this. We're talking about people who have nothing in their lives. They have no faith, they have no purpose, they have no moral structure. They want only to appear in, in, in the videos displayed in front of other people. Here's an example. You guys ever see any of the, any of the thousands of videos where a guy will take two milk jugs in a Walmart, dump them all over himself, slam them on the ground, and then scream, what was that? I'm a big beautiful baby or something? Something like this. Just.
Phil Avanti
It doesn't really matter what they scream.
Tim Pool
These, These, these people are so desperate for attention of any kind. These are the kind of things they're willing to do. So if Trump comes in and arrests them, they're going to be crossing their fingers. Please, please, please, please. And all the leftists will film them and cheer for them and encourage.
Libby Emmons
More like Luigi Mangione.
Tim Pool
Yep.
Amber Duke
Mm.
Phil Avanti
Well, I mean, so then, do you have an opinion as to what should be done?
Tim Pool
There's no. I. I've been saying this, Phil. You've been saying this. There's no off ramp. To quote the great Philo Bonte, you said this two years ago, last year. There's no off ramp. And that's, that's kind of the point I'm making. The action you take to stop the violence will be used as a weapon because it makes them feel good.
Libby Emmons
Right. So you can't feel like they're over the target and.
Tim Pool
Right. And you can't do nothing because they're in. They're the instigators.
Phil Avanti
Well, putting them in jail forever makes me feel Good.
Tim Pool
Agreed. So I'm not saying don't lock them up. I am saying, yeah, get mo, man. Why not?
Phil Avanti
I love the idea we're talking about.
Tim Pool
People who are committing acts of terrorism.
Phil Avanti
Yeah.
Amber Duke
So fine, go with other terrorists.
Phil Avanti
I'm waterboarding bag man.
Tim Pool
Let me tell you.
Libby Emmons
Of course, the same.
Amber Duke
Where's Dick Cheney when you need him?
Phil Avanti
I know, right?
Amber Duke
Why did we drive him out of the party?
Tim Pool
Again, we were talking. We're talking about religion the other day and moral philosophies with Eleazar. That was really fascinating. And, you know, this morning I decided to do a. An assessment on the whole Sam Cedar video with Eleazar and how Sam had a decade to Google search utilitarianism and didn't do it, which kind of blew my mind because I debated him like seven years ago, and he said, I don't know what that is. And I'm like, okay.
Libby Emmons
And he never. He never, never looked it up.
Tim Pool
He never. So. So anyway, I digressed. In this conversation. We are talking about the requirement of moral tradition and moral foundations for a nation. And I got to thinking about this. This balance between your principles and war. We were discussing things like war between good and evil. And you know, you know what I just said? I thought to myself, I don't care anymore. That, look, you're not going to win a debate with a man who's intent on breaking into your home to murder and rape you. Like a guy kicks your door and screaming, you're evil and you're a demon, and I've come for you. You can't be like, well, have a seat, sir. Let's. Let's debate this. I have rights.
Libby Emmons
You can't do much with a guy like that.
Tim Pool
But we're dealing with a left that is burning down Tesla facilities, shooting guns into Tesla vehicles. They've. These are people who have previously taken over parts of cities. What debate do we think we're going to win with these people?
Amber Duke
And it's incredibly ironic, by the way, because that same group of people does subscribe, at least vocally, to the theory that you can talk people down from committing acts of violence. Because this is the group of people that wants to send social workers along with police officers to respond to people who are having mental health crises and are likely to turn violent, and then they make the situation worse.
Phil Avanti
I'm not sure if they even believe that it's going to. That it actually is going to work. I think that they. I think that they just don't want to see police doing things they don't want to tell people no, maybe I have the police.
Amber Duke
I've sat on a show with some people who are actually dumb enough to think that that's real.
Libby Emmons
They do want police though. When something happens to them, they want police.
Tim Pool
A viral video From I think 2018 was the Seattle cops arrest. Antifa attacked a guy, he was backing away from them. He didn't fight them and the cops grabbed him and arrested him and apologized to Antifa. And I kept telling these conservatives, like why are you back in the blue? Like in where you live maybe, but not in Seattle. These are all Democrat appointed guys. And then it wasn't until COVID lockdowns that people on the right started stepping on the thin blue line flag and saying screw this.
Amber Duke
Well, there was this crazy story we covered at the Daily Caller of this FBI agent. I believe he was. I'd have to double check my work on that. But he was fired under the Biden administration because he refused to execute a search warrant against Patriot Front because they were trying to basically up their stats on hate crimes. And Patriot Front went to this protest of like drag queen story hour or something and didn't engage in any acts of violence, were totally peaceful. But the Biden administration nonetheless fabricated the details in the search warrant. The search warrant itself actually just got released today through court order because this guy sued and they just made things up and gave it to the FBI agents and said, you need to go execute this and arrest these members of Patriot Front. And the guy said no, this is bogus. And they canned him.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I feel like I've heard that story, but I mean, look, I have very little problem with rounding these people up and throwing them in jail. And, and I don't whether or not there is going to be a positive result for the nation by doing that. I'm less concerned. I just want to see these people punished for, for being the garbage that they are.
Libby Emmons
I would say that I would feel sort of differently about the whole thing if you didn't have leftist pundits, commentators and politicians backing the, you know, arsonists, agitators. Yeah, but like that's the thing that I find really troubling. It's not just that there's this undercurrent of violence. It's that it's being actually boosted and encouraged by the leaders on that side.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I mean it's just because they, I mean, so there's an argument that.
Tim Pool
The leader of the Democrat Party, Bill Burr.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Phil Avanti
There's an argument that the, that the left doesn't believe in Anything except for power. And that kind of is. That's really demonstrated by things like the, you know, the. The left saying. Making all kinds of excuses, leftist judges saying, oh, you know, we're not gonna. We're not gonna punish this person or time served for people on the left and. And extremely strict sentences for people on the right. You know, So I. I have a.
Tim Pool
Question for you guys. Let's say that they capture somebody who is just about to light a Molotov outside a Tesla dealership. What do you do with a person like that?
Libby Emmons
Well, you read them their Miranda rights and you charge them with it.
Tim Pool
You don't read them the Miranda rights.
Libby Emmons
Of course you do.
Tim Pool
There's no investigation.
Libby Emmons
You arrest them.
Tim Pool
Nope. Only if there's an investigation happening. You need to question them.
Libby Emmons
If you arrest someone, you.
Tim Pool
Nope.
Libby Emmons
They get Miranda.
Tim Pool
That is not correct.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Nope. Yeah, that is not correct. I'm pretty sure Miranda rights are only if the police are investigating something and they're required to ask you questions. If the cop witnesses you engage in the action.
Libby Emmons
If they do that. Yeah. So, but if they drag you in, they have to tell you that you have the right to remain silent and.
Tim Pool
Have an attorney if you are being questioned.
Libby Emmons
Sure.
Tim Pool
So at 99% of crimes where the cops arrest you as you're, like, engaging, like, you get to a bar fight, you're not getting Mirandized. If you're. If you're. If you're at a right, you're not getting Mirandized. But outside of that point, it's funny, because I really want to bring that up, because liberals always, when they're getting arrested, yell, I have not been read my rights. Which means literally nothing. But what I'm thinking of is, in the event we capture these people who have committed domestic terror, in all seriousness, we can say, lock them up, Guantanamo, whatever you want to say. But what do you actually do with these people? Can they be reformed? Can they be rehabilitated? Is there a certain amount of time where they will see the error of their ways?
Phil Avanti
I don't. I don't know if they will see the error of their ways.
Tim Pool
You re. Educate them.
Phil Avanti
I don't know that re education. I don't think it does.
Libby Emmons
I don't want to get sent to a re education camp if suddenly it's the other side in charge.
Tim Pool
I don't like the re education, but that's the issue. That's the question of war. Hassan wants you in a RE education camp.
Libby Emmons
Oh, for sure.
Tim Pool
Right.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And how. Now, the funny thing is, there's nothing they can educate you on because they have no coherent understanding of the world. I mean, for the love of all that is holy, Sam Cedar had seven years to Google one word and he didn't do it. And he got humiliated by Eleazar in this video. It was so bad he had to get. He's getting interviewed by the corporate press, asking him why it went so poorly. And his response was, I wanted him to hang himself. I wanted him to just talk so he could expose himself. And it's like, my dude, he asked you and he didn't know. So these people can't re educate you if they don't even know what these basic words mean. But that being said, I think we could properly re educate these people. I am not saying we should because I don't know that they can be rehabilitated. I'm saying some people lack the cognitive ability to understand the information you present them.
Amber Duke
They don't re educate, they demoralize.
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, but so, so in all seriousness, we arrest them, we put them in prison for long periods of time and then what? History tells us that people of deviant or amoral persuasions do not rehabilitate. You put them in prison, they don't change.
Libby Emmons
Well, because they don't want to give up their belief system. That's their belief system.
Tim Pool
But. And their belief system is literally just a chaotic destructive force.
Libby Emmons
Yes.
Tim Pool
So then the question is prison for life for terrorists.
Amber Duke
Well, you should bring back three three strikes laws for sure.
Libby Emmons
Well, we did have prison for life for the terrorists of the 9 11. Right. They're still at Guantanamo Bay and they haven't been prosecuted because their attorneys successfully claimed that their rights were violated. So they haven't been prosecuted. And they were almost set free and returned to, you know, whatever, whatever hellhole they came from. But the Biden administration under pressure, put a stop to it.
Tim Pool
I just, I was thinking about the gulags and how communists like to say maybe after breaking rocks for a few years you might come to change your mind. And the communist strategy is not to actually re educate as if you're lacking information. It's to torture to the point where you beg them, I will do anything you say. Please, please make it stop. This is what communists have historically done.
Phil Avanti
And when it comes to like the gulags and stuff, there were always like 10 year sentences of hard labor. And the other people in the gulag with you is who kept you in line because there were so many people in the gulag, they didn't have enough, enough guards to actually keep people in. So it was always a. Based on random punishments. And so everybody would, so they would keep each other in line and stuff. And I don't see that that's a solution here in the U.S. i think that, I mean, I, I think that we should just toss him in jail and throw away the key because you can't.
Tim Pool
That's not permanent. I mean, we're talking about Bill Burr.
Phil Avanti
Always going to have less.
Tim Pool
My point is, Bill Burr, what we are not talking about 10,000 people across the country. We are talking about potentially 10 million. We are talking about when you see the arson against all of these Tesla dealerships, which again, I think it's like what, 16 or some out attacks. There's no organized body instructing them to go do it. It is a, it is, it is the, the bucket, ice bucket challenge. They are going on tick tock. They are seeing people say do it and they're going and doing it.
Libby Emmons
Well, I think the only thing that you can do is charge people with crimes if they've committed crimes, put them through the legal system, put them through the proper, you know, the, the appropriate punishment. And you can't lock people up because they disagree with you. If nobody's, if, if you are a crazy leftist and you're not committing violence, then that's your right to be a crazy leftist and not commit violence.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to the story from the post Millennial doxing website featuring Molotov cocktail Cursor exposes personal info of Tesla owners. In addition to listing alleged Tesla owner data, the site reportedly maps out Tesla dealership locations and approximates the positions of the company's supercharger locations. I don't want to potentially reveal any information about the name of that site, but if you guys are familiar with what's going on with this, if you want to explain it without.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, we didn't link to the site in the story.
Tim Pool
Is it named though?
Libby Emmons
I don't.
Tim Pool
It might be.
Libby Emmons
Thanks.
Tim Pool
So.
Libby Emmons
But I didn't review it. This was actually just published by Tommy Stevenson.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Do you want to give us the breakdown, Amber?
Amber Duke
Well, the website, as the story says that you just read, has the private addresses of Tesla owners. Tesla dealerships also includes the addresses of members of Elon Musk's Doge team. And when you, when you go through and click on these things, it has like a little icon on a map to show you where you are in relation to individuals that you can go attack. So I mean it's, it's doxing on a Wide scale. That's the gist of it.
Phil Avanti
And it's like, like the, I think the unique thing or the new development thing of this is the fact that they're doxing, you know, private citizens, people that just own Teslas. If they're. I don't know how much information is actually on the website about the, about private, you know, individuals and stuff. But like, that is a different kind of situation. If they're going to start seeing regular. It's one thing website has become so.
Tim Pool
Popular that their servers are down.
Amber Duke
They want to, they want to bankrupt Elon Musk. And they do that by discouraging anyone from buying a Tesla.
Phil Avanti
Well, not only that, but they're, they're, they obviously, they want to discourage people from buying, Buying Tesla. But if they actually do start attacking people that own Teslas, that is a new, A new, A new step. It's an, it's, you know, it's a, an escalation in this. And, you know, I, I don't want to see that. But you'll see, you'll see people, you know, start to fight back with that kind of thing.
Libby Emmons
You know, there was a. Yeah. I mean, we saw Tesla owners being interviewed on the news with their identities shielded and covered, saying that they're keeping their Teslas in their garage and they don't want to drive it. But once you spend, I mean, for most people, once you spend that much on a car, like, that's your car.
Tim Pool
So I have the website pulled up. I'm not going to show it, but it shows private cars.
Libby Emmons
That's so crazy.
Tim Pool
It shows Tesla dealerships, charging stations and private individuals, vehicles.
Libby Emmons
There was a guy who, Holy crap. Tried to blow up Tesla charging stations in South Carolina the other day with Molotov cocktails. He accidentally set himself on fire.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Amber Duke
Shame.
Libby Emmons
I know. Really?
Amber Duke
Bummer.
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, seriously, guys don't play with fire. You learn that when you're a little kid? Yeah, I mean, don't commit terrorism.
Phil Avanti
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Wow, this is crazy. Although it's hard to actually point on it. Whoa.
Libby Emmons
What? Can you find stuff?
Tim Pool
I ain't gonna pull it up, but yes, I can. I found a private woman's car in, In Virginia.
Libby Emmons
That's not right. You should leave people alone.
Tim Pool
Their home address.
Libby Emmons
How did people get all this stuff?
Tim Pool
I have no idea. Someone hacked something. This is crazy because this is right by us.
Amber Duke
Look up the car title somehow and then link it to the address.
Phil Avanti
Yeah. Or, yeah, a lot of times, if.
Amber Duke
I probably wouldn't be that hard.
Tim Pool
Number, Phone numbers.
Libby Emmons
It's probably public information. Right. Registration.
Amber Duke
We, the Daily Caller got doxed by Antifa back in. Oh, that's right. I want to say 2018 or 19, it was the first time I worked there. And they had our addresses, phone numbers, our parents addresses and phone numbers like every address that we had ever lived at all on this website and were like promising to come kill us all. I was like, all right, come see what happens. I mean, yeah, but no, you don't want people to come.
Libby Emmons
No.
Phil Avanti
Yeah.
Amber Duke
And you don't want people to go to your parents house.
Phil Avanti
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
Definitely not your parents house.
Phil Avanti
My mom's.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Avanti
I don't, I don't, I don't want my mom to have to.
Amber Duke
No.
Phil Avanti
With that.
Amber Duke
No. It's insane.
Tim Pool
I'm wondering how they got this information, to be honest, because it's all over the country. Again, for those that are just listening, I have the map pulled up. I'm looking at it. I can click on people's names, but I don't want, I'm not going to give out the information as to what the website is or how people find this because this is nuts.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, but I mean this, you know, again, this, this.
Amber Duke
You can search and view license plates on the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles website and then.
Tim Pool
But you have to type in the license plate number, don't you?
Amber Duke
Yeah, but if they probably just have people like reporting license plates on the back of Teslas and then they can match the license plate number to the name and then you can easily look up someone's address if they own a property through home records.
Libby Emmons
That's really scary. You could just look up, you could just look up through somebody's license plate. Yeah, that's terrifying.
Amber Duke
I'm going to look up mine. I don't remember off the top of my head.
Phil Avanti
Really. It's really bad. And if you want to see, you know, if you want to see like, or if there, if there is going to be some kind of civil conflict, attacking private citizens for owning the wrong.
Libby Emmons
Kind of caring the wrong car and.
Phil Avanti
That'Ll be, that'll be something that'll set people.
Libby Emmons
And these are all lefties who bought Teslas and why isn't the government shutting this website down?
Tim Pool
I just want to pause real quick. And it doesn't look like the website has privacy protection. And I just pulled up, it's. Who is data?
Amber Duke
Oh, good.
Libby Emmons
Who is it?
Tim Pool
I don't know if I should say.
Libby Emmons
Because you want to dox the docs or, you know.
Tim Pool
Well, I don't know if this is A service, but yeah, I don't know. It looks like it's a service. Well, yeah, it's a privacy provider. Okay. All right, so they do have domain privacy. Interesting. Interesting.
Phil Avanti
Well, I mean, look, the, the, the fact that this stuff is, you know.
Tim Pool
Got privacy from the FBI, and the FBI should. Well, here's the question to the people who made this website. What do you do? Does the FBI arrest them? It's free speech, Right. If these are, if these are public.
Libby Emmons
Is it.
Tim Pool
It is. You are allowed to go out in public and hold up someone's address, phone number, Social Security number, all that really?
Libby Emmons
You're just not allowed to do it on X?
Tim Pool
You're not Yet. Private companies usually say, hey, don't do that. So does the FBI say this is a, an intention case? This is not a speech issue. This is you compiling data for the purpose of targeting individuals with acts of terrorism. The. Actually, I would say this. The icon of the Molotov cocktail. Probably just about to say that probably did it.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, yeah.
Amber Duke
If it was what they tell people to do with the information.
Tim Pool
Right.
Phil Avanti
Another thing is we'll.
Tim Pool
Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. The website outright calls for people to commit crimes.
Amber Duke
There you go. Yeah, you can't do that.
Tim Pool
Yeah. It says if you're on the hunt for a Tesla to unleash your flare with a spray paint can, no map needed, you can use their. Right. Okay, so Cash and Dan should immediately just say to this American based privacy provider, yeah, subpoena. Who is it? They're calling for criminal actions.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know that that'll stop people, but I think that they should definitely do that because, look, someone's going to get hurt.
Tim Pool
They also provide a link to a list of tools to get away with committing crimes.
Libby Emmons
Oh, really? What. What's that? What's what?
Tim Pool
I'm not going to say.
Libby Emmons
That makes.
Phil Avanti
Throw these people in jail. Pick them. Pick them up. Pick them up. Send the FBI. Pick them up. Right to jail. Right to jail.
Tim Pool
If you vandalize Tesla, believe it or not, right to jail. Right?
Phil Avanti
Yeah, they should. They. This is all. This is all bs. They're. They're intending to terrorize people. They're terrorists. You should. They should all be picked up and prosecuted under terrorism for, you know, for terrorism. For breaking.
Amber Duke
They gave a guy 20 years in prison for shaking a fence outside of the Capitol.
Phil Avanti
Like, yeah, throw. Throw him in jail.
Amber Duke
Let's go.
Phil Avanti
Throw him in jail and throw the book at him. Well, this shouldn't even be a question.
Tim Pool
I will say I and my family are nowhere listed on any of this. So that's the first thing I checked. But I also want to stress with all the swatting that are going on, we've, we, we've been there, done that years ago. So our circumstances that pertains to swattings are dramatically different. As I mentioned this quite a bit without going into great detail of our, our basic security parameters. The first and most obvious thing for anyone to understand, if you're a company, you're basically SWAT proof. You can't swat an office building like you can. But then there's going to be a private security contractor who already has a direct line of the cops. So what ends up happening is someone tries swatting a studio building and the cops are going to call the private security contractor and say, you guys all good over there? And they go, all good? Bye. Click. Nothing happens. So for us, when it comes to stuff like this, there's not. I mean, you know, obviously we have our security concerns, but for the most part, we are not in the same boat as your average conservative personality or Tesla owner. And wow. As a Tesla shareholder, I am deeply angered. But I'm wondering if they compile this information through sightings, right?
Amber Duke
I would think so.
Tim Pool
So the. It's got info on chargers and Teslas that's, that's easily pulled from any website making an API for anything to find Tesla chargers. Google Maps has it. But as for individual owners.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that's really scary.
Tim Pool
Whoa. It doxes Cash Patel.
Libby Emmons
Oh, my goodness.
Amber Duke
Oh, it's over for them.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Amber Duke
You done?
Tim Pool
So I'm, I, I'm not going to show this, but I just. Cash Patel's address, home address.
Phil Avanti
Pick them up, yo. Round them up.
Tim Pool
That's. That's balls. Cash Patel's address is in here.
Libby Emmons
That's really wild.
Tim Pool
Is that real? That's crazy. Yo, that's messed up.
Libby Emmons
It's. Yeah, I mean, it's messed up all around.
Phil Avanti
Let the roundups begin. Get them all.
Tim Pool
Wow, man. I can. I want to, I want to try and see if I can verify this. I'm not going to show anything. Of course.
Amber Duke
Yeah.
Phil Avanti
I mean, look, the. There, there's nothing more to say about this. Honestly, they should just.
Tim Pool
They're.
Phil Avanti
They're terrorists. The intent is, is to, is to strike fear in the hearts of people that would support Elon Musk or Donald Trump or Doge. Round them up.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, I mean, the people who made this website website, it's got a listing for violence, should probably see some charges.
Tim Pool
It's got what appears to be a list of government employees working with Elon Musk.
Amber Duke
Right, yeah. Members of doge. Yeah, yep.
Phil Avanti
And it, I mean, I understand that there's.
Tim Pool
Yeah, yep.
Phil Avanti
There's another one to actually cut the. The government and stuff, but this is something that, like libertarians have been talking about doing this for literally ever. Mike Band doing cuts like that like DOGE talks about doing, cutting the size of size and scope of government. This is, this is the kind of stuff that I've been hoping to see for all of my entire adult, adult life, you know, and so, you know, people are going to be like, oh, well, we're going to attack you for it.
Amber Duke
Also consider, in addition to people just like looking up license plate numbers, there could also be members of law enforcement who are involved in this who have access to those databases. Like, if they went rogue, they could easily just look up license plate numbers and you immediately have all of the registrants information.
Tim Pool
Wow, man.
Phil Avanti
Mm.
Tim Pool
Cash Patel. Yo, Cash, you stop these guys.
Amber Duke
Apparently Mike Benz is on there too.
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, I just saw that.
Amber Duke
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
Maybe we shouldn't say the names of high profile people who are on this list so people don't go trying to find.
Amber Duke
But I want them to know so they shut it down.
Libby Emmons
They should know for sure, right? They should know.
Tim Pool
Man. That's crazy. All right, well, we got, we got two more stories to get to. Let's go to this big one first from Newsweek. Trump demands impeachment of crooked judge. So this story is bubbling up.
Libby Emmons
He's not the only one. Brandon Gill, too.
Tim Pool
Brandon Gill called for the impeachment of the judge.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, he filed, I think he filed some legislation.
Amber Duke
Impeachment.
Libby Emmons
Articles of impeachment for the judge.
Tim Pool
We are. Can I just. Is it okay if I say it? Yeah, go ahead. Civil war. We are dealing with judges that are trying to. That have declared. This judge, he declared he has equitable power to President Trump.
Phil Avanti
That's.
Libby Emmons
Oh, that's nuts.
Tim Pool
And here's. Here's the question I asked in the morning on the morning show. Guys, for those that are listening, if you served in the military, my question for you is this. Actually, let me, let me pull up the post of Millennial, because I know you guys got a picture of this year. Feller.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, we do.
Tim Pool
And let me scroll down and find it.
Libby Emmons
Hopefully like a Harvard guy. He's like a Harvard professor or something like that.
Tim Pool
Harvard guy, huh? And we also have the update from Justice Roberts.
Libby Emmons
So I'm thinking of a different guy.
Tim Pool
So here's my Question for you guys. You serve in the military. So Donald Trump lands on Marine One and, you know, security detail, they come out, Trump walks out and he walks up to you, whatever your rank was, I don't care. And he says, listen, I'm giving you an order. I need this thing done now. Please go do it. In fact, he says to you, we've got, we've got a plane over there that we need prepped and ready to go. Call anyone you need to call to get it ready. We are going to have people coming in. I want you to get that plane ready now. Would you do it now? As they can answer in the comments, do you guys think that if Trump went to any military member just landing there, that no idea was showing up and he looked at some regular guy, maybe it's an nco, and he said, get that plane ready. Call who you need to call. We need it ready in one hour. Do you think that person would say, yes, sir?
Amber Duke
Yeah, why wouldn't they?
Tim Pool
Now, what if Judge Boasberg arrived in a helicopter and got out in his judge robes and walked up to an NCO and says, get that plane ready to go. You have one hour. What do you think they're going to say?
Phil Avanti
There is a significant.
Tim Pool
I actually think they're going to say, sir, you're in restricted grounds. Identify yourself. So that's what's crazy about the idea that this lower court judge in D.C. thinks he has more power than the president or, I'm sorry, equal power. He said equal.
Amber Duke
Well, that's the thing. They're co. Equal branches of government, and yet the judges are behaving as if they are superior to the executive branch. And one of the things that I loved about Stephen Miller's interview on CNN about this issue was he brought up the fact that judges don't have the authority to stop troop movements or matters relating to foreign policy that's at the discretion of the commander in chief. Once Trump invoked the authority under the Alien Enemies act, that judge doesn't have any say over what happens next.
Libby Emmons
Well, and also, Trump declared the cartels and the criminal gangs terrorists.
Amber Duke
Exactly.
Libby Emmons
And then you're going to go to war with terrorists. And so then the law perfectly matches. It's fine.
Tim Pool
I want you to envision. What was the guy's name? Spitzer. The guy who bombed. Who bombed Nagasaki. Hiroshima. I have the magazine right there.
Libby Emmons
The Enola Gay.
Tim Pool
No, no, the General.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Which general oversaw.
Libby Emmons
You know, they have the Enola Gay at, at the National Air and Space Museum in Chantilly.
Tim Pool
It was Curtis. General Curtis LeMay and Leslie Groves. I want you to imagine that these guys sitting there with their cigars are like, boys, load it up. Put the bomb in. We're flying to Japan. And then as the plane's in midair, a D.C. court judge goes, no, no, turn those planes around right now. And they. And the general goes, ah, shucks. All right, boys, send them home. Local district court judge told us we can't fly those planes. And these aren't even presidents, these are generals. They're going to be like, excuse me, and they ain't happening. No president can give me the order. You can't. But more importantly, imagine the president tells, get some guys, get on this plane. We have enemy combatants that are being sent to a foreign country that we have negotiated with. And a district court judge bangs the gavel and says, turn those planes around. Mr. It's insane.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, the. The judiciary is not supposed to interpose itself in between the president and the will of the people, the American people. And I said this last night, the American people elected the President. The president is the only person in the United States federal government that is elected by the whole of the body politic. Everyone else is a representative of a different area or, you know, congressional, district, or state or whatever. The people elected the president. Clearly they wanted his agenda implemented. And these judges, and it's multiple judges now.
Libby Emmons
I mean, what, there's a. Yeah, there's a lot of judges. One judge today that some USAID employees be rehired and their credentials back.
Tim Pool
Sorry, that was a general's name, General Spets, and it's. He oversaw Pacific Command when they bombed Japan.
Amber Duke
And Chief Justice John Roberts obviously does not know what time it is because it is far overdue for the Supreme Court to start slapping these guys on the hands and telling them, you have overstepped your authority because there have been dozens of injunctions across the nation against Trump's policy. And the Supreme Court takes, on average about 80 cases a term they're not going to be capable of when this comes up in June, of taking on 40, 50 cases against the Trump administration and resolving all of this in a timely fashion. This is intentional to slow walk the policies. And inevitably, the Supreme Court's only going to take, let's say, one or two cases, and the rest of them are just going to be in injunction limbo for the entire term.
Libby Emmons
Do you think it's going to be emergency, like emergency injunctions until that point, do you think?
Amber Duke
Absolutely.
Phil Avanti
Trump admission administration should ignore these judges?
Libby Emmons
I don't think that's a good idea.
Tim Pool
Joke for you guys. What do you get when you cross an out of control bureaucratic state of judges and other bureaucratic officials who believe that they have equal powers to a president and are trying to obstruct the popular mandate? At the same time, far left terrorists are firebombing Tesla dealerships and calling and swatting attempted murder, attempted murder attempts on prominent conservatives, directly targeting them with threats of fear, violence and death. When you cross that with an administration that won a popular mandate and is seeking to gut and dismantle that bureaucratic state and get rid of tens of millions of criminal aliens in this country with a population also angered at the attacks against them and willing to defend themselves?
Libby Emmons
I think like Brazil.
Phil Avanti
I know what you're looking at, but I'm not going to say it.
Tim Pool
Two words, civil war, I told you so. Again, again, I'm being a little bit hyperbolic, but if now is not, look, if it is not the craziest point as of yet, since we've had these discussions, then I don't know what else you could be possibly, possibly looking for. It's one thing when a roving band of lunatics or millions of them, like we saw in the, in the summer, hundreds of thousands in the summer of love. It's one thing when they're going on smashing buildings and firebombing buildings and we see like a mayor join in and then the president, president's staff fundraises for these criminals and then the vice president directly solicits funds for these criminals. That's kind of worrying. But right now what we're looking at with this judge going up against Trump, it is like they are trying to use simultaneously terrorism against Elon and conservatives with the swatting as well as administrative attacks on the Constitution. The crazy thing is if you go to any one of these liberals, there's no argument to be had. That's, that's why I say, or to quote Phil, there's no off ramp. You go to a liberal and say a lower court judge cannot instruct a president to alter his military operations. They'll go, yes they can.
Libby Emmons
Well, the judges aren't realizing. And that was what was so interesting about Stephen Miller's. What was it? Cnn. That was a really fascinating segment because the cnn, whatever her name is, the pundit there. And I think these judges don't realize that they are in fact interfering in military operations. That's what this is. When you're exporting, when you're taking criminal gang members out of the country and putting Them in prison and saying, you're not going to be wrecking havoc in our country anymore. That is a military thing and a mass deportation is a military thing. That's why it was, I think so key that, you know, you have Trump, you have Tom Holman, you have all of this effort to remove criminals very specifically, to remove gang members very specifically. But when it comes to your average people who are who the crime that they committed was illegally crossing the border and they've just been existing without issue since then. You have the new CBP Home app, which has been repurposed.
Amber Duke
Love it.
Libby Emmons
To allow for self deportation. What's crazy about that app? It was created under the Trump administration to allow for the quick importation of perishable goods, was repurposed under Biden to allow illegal immigration, and has now been repurposed to allow people to go home.
Amber Duke
Yeah, I mean, oh, man, the CBP1 app was such a scandal and like, it didn't get talked about enough during the Biden administration because people talked about, you know, so and so number of people are coming in through the CBP1 app. But the craziest part about that app is that there was no tracking function. You had to rely on illegal aliens to voluntarily check in and only then would the government get their location at the time they checked in. But it didn't continue tracking them the entire time. They had the app on their phone.
Libby Emmons
Their free Biden phone. Yeah, yeah. Their free Biden phone.
Tim Pool
Well, I. Have you guys seen the commercials now that Trump is running?
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Actual commercial advertisements.
Amber Duke
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Go home, use the app. You could leave now and maybe you can come back.
Amber Duke
Also the closing time video.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah.
Amber Duke
So great.
Tim Pool
But Kristi Noem, have you seen that? She's running commercials as well. Yeah, like legit commercials on tv. Go home now and maybe you can come back legally.
Amber Duke
It's a public service announcement.
Tim Pool
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm for it, but over these past several years, the conversations around the escalation of like. Let me, let me, let me pause and go back in time at a conversation in 2018 where a D.C. a prominent D.C. politico writer said, civil war is impossible in this country. You're stupid. The security state would have never allowed that to happen. Okay, well, here we are at the highest levels of government where Trump is directly going to war with the bureaucratic state. There is no security state anymore. There are two factions at the highest level trying to rip each other to shreds. And Trump didn't start it. They tried putting him in prison. They tried impeaching him twice. Here we are. I am kind of worried about where this ends up. I think we may see as of right now, the most logical conclusion is going to be a high degree of terroristic insurgency from the far left, which may end up resulting in a more authoritarian right style of government where you'll end up with security checkpoints and you're going to end up with people likely on our side tolerating it. You know, it's fascinating when I see all these memes from libertarians where they're like, there's a. The interview I did with Donald Trump is going viral now because Trump started bombing Yemen and Trump said, you don't need to do that. You can negotiate. I'm pretty sure that that was well before they blocked the Red Sea and started bombing cargo ships with the, with the help of the Iranian logistics. Not that I like that Trump is, is, is bombing the rebels, bombing the Houthis. But I also don't know, But I don't know. I don't know what you do when global shipping containers are being bombed, when, when freighters are being bombed. But my point is, many of these people are now claiming that the right has become hypocritical because they are supporting things that a year ago they said they didn't want to support. And then once again, I just come back to the. I just don't care. Away with ye weakness, weak spined libertarians. I am not so naive. I understand. Let me, let me put it this way. To avoid any doubt, Abraham Lincoln is the most popular president in history, when people are asked, poll after poll after poll says Abraham Lincoln's the most popular. And why is that? Because he held the union together, I guess. He also suspended habeas corpus. Remember that?
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Conscripted people. And he arrested the legislature in Maryland, large portions of it, because they were sympathetic to the Confederacy. Several people were arrested with that charge or trial, and we celebrate that he did it all. So in the event that Donald Trump pulls a Lincoln and starts arresting far left extremists and we end up with a wartime president, I'm not gonna, I'm not a fan of any of these things, but I'm not so naive to be like, you just gotta let the far left burn this, burn the country to the ground and let people invade.
Libby Emmons
Well, when it comes to, I, I kind of agree with that. When it comes to the, the whole bombing the Houthis thing, it's kind of like the Barbary pirate situation, you know, And Thomas Jefferson went in there. And he was like, we're not going to take this anymore. We keep trying to negotiate with you so that you let our ships through and now we're going to go to war with you.
Amber Duke
Who was like a famous anti interventionist, by the way.
Libby Emmons
Famous, but for that. Yeah, exactly. So I, I think that there's certainly precedent to protect shipping lanes and Trump for them. Yeah.
Amber Duke
I mean, we have agreements with practically every country on those shipping routes that we are in charge of the security.
Libby Emmons
And also you had Trump saying that he was going to hold Iran accountable. And I think that makes sense as well.
Tim Pool
I'm also just, I have a question for the libertarians. Do we just stay out of it? I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm like a literally honest question for the libertarians. When the Houthi rebels, there's an Iranian vessel providing logistics to Houthi rebels, they're effectively pulling their own version of piracy where Iran says, we're not involved, we're just passing information along, got nothing to do with it. And the Houthi rebels are attacking cargo vessels. Is the libertarian position we should just let them control the Red Sea and the Suez Canal and all that stuff?
Phil Avanti
The libertarian position is if we stopped supporting Israel, that would mean that the Houthis would stop, which I think is insane.
Tim Pool
Well, hold on. We're a few degrees separated, but I agree.
Phil Avanti
That's what they'll say.
Tim Pool
I agree. So my response is sure. Indeed. Right now, would the response then be, in order to stop the Houthis from attacking the Red Sea? In the Red Sea, should we announce we are defunding Israel?
Amber Duke
No, that's.
Libby Emmons
We are. No, no, no, no.
Tim Pool
I'm asking the libertarians, do they genuinely believe that if we said we will no longer fund Israel, the Houthis would be like, okay, everybody, pack it in, we're going home.
Phil Avanti
They believe that if we stop supporting Israel, then literally, I'm not kidding around, they believe that if we stop supporting Israel, Israel would end up getting taken over by the Palestinians. And they believe that that would, that would mean peace in the Middle East.
Tim Pool
But that's not going to stop the attacks right now.
Phil Avanti
I think it's crazy. That's what they'll say.
Libby Emmons
It would also not stop the radical Islamists from coming for America and Christians and Europe.
Phil Avanti
Not at all.
Tim Pool
I don't know. But ladies and gentlemen, we have, we have a media story to, to get into. Before we do, my friends, smash the like button if you haven't already, and share the show right now in fact we have about 95, 000 concurrent viewers. It's a, it's a big show and it's all thanks to Rumble. Yeah yeah. This morning for the new Rumble lineup. If you guys haven't seen 9, 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, we've got a full lineup of live shows in the morning on Rumble and this morning I think the first four or five shows were all the number one streams, the largest live streams in the country for their time slots. So at Tim Pool morning show@rumble.com Timcast had 65,000 on Rumble and 20,000 on YouTube, making it even just with the Rumble stream alone the largest live stream at the time in the country. So shout out to Rumble. This is really, we got really great stuff going on and since we teamed up with Rumble and we are now simultaneously on YouTube and Rumble, 94,000, about 95,000 concurrent viewers. So it's been tremendous. I think Rumble's moving up. I think they are. And I think the fact that they have now consistently the top live streams makes them one of the leading platforms. I'm proud to work with them. But smash the like button, share the show and let's get into this media story. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news Daily Wire co CEO Jeremy Boring to step down this story has led to a whole bunch of conspiracy shenanigans. So this there's two CEOs of the Daily Wire and with Jeremy Boring stepping down, they say Jeremy Bourne, co founder of the Daily Wire, stepping down from his role as co CEO to focus on creative projects for the company, he told staff in a memo obtained by Access on Tuesday. Boring has been with the Daily Wire since its inception 2015. He upgraded the outlet from a tiny new startup with 4.7 million in seed funding into a media giant valued north of 1 billion. Caleb Robinson, the company's founding CEO, will become the company's full time CEO effective immediately. Robinson and Boring have been co CEO since 2019. Robinson co founded the company alongside Boring and the outlet Editor Emeritus Ben Shapiro. In a note to staff, Boring said he will remain with the company in an advisory role. He will continue to host Daily Wire backstage with the company, the company's monthly show featuring Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles and Andrew Claven. He'll focus focus full time on creative projects, including the completion of the Daily Wires TV series, the TV series the Pendragon Cycle in which he serves as director and Executive producer. They're going to mention he's love the Daily Wires commercial expansion over the past decade, growing the outlet from a social media publishing brand to a streamer and e commerce giant. Daily Wire plus Bent Key Etc. Robinson and Shapiro plan to continue pursuing a growth investment in 2025. So this is another story that we saw back in December that they were looking for investment. Brett Cooper posted this. Just an image of Jimmy Kimmel slowly turning and looking to the camera and then giving a little nod. I have no idea what that means, so one can only speculate, but I suppose it implies that Brett Cooper and Jeremy Boring did not get along. Honestly, I don't know. I'm. I think Jeremy's a great guy. I consider him a friend. I wish him the best. Had no idea this was gonna happen. Brett Cooper says, genuinely excited to see where Ben and Caleb take the company next. And then of course, Jeremy Bourne confirms this by tweeting it out with a new chapter. And my favorite element of this is a tweet from Ian Carroll, Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boring, stepping down. Oh no, there's so much more tea than that. My sources have been telling me about the story for months. Here's the inside scoop. I'd like to just jump ahead to a portion of Ian Carroll's video and press play for you guys. And here we go. Interproduction. And did not nearly recoup the costs. So then you remember when Tim Pool was like kind of like rearranging his business and all sorts of weird stuff was happening there. I don't even know if Tim knows this yet directly, but it sounds like the Daily Wire was trying to manipulate him into buying the Daily Wire and trying to present it as super profitable. The rumors I'm hearing is that Jeremy Boring thought Tim Pool would be dumb.
Phil Avanti
Enough to fall for it and he was the exact kind of guy they could sell to.
Tim Pool
I heard that they allegedly offered him an all stock deal which would be worth. Because their stock is worthless because they're bankrupt. Allegedly. So props Tim for not taking that deal.
Phil Avanti
That would have been a huge.
Tim Pool
I must admit, my friends, I can't believe that the story has. Has been leaked. That's right. I'm a billionaire. I have a. I'm actually an heir to a emerald mine in South Africa and I am so, so wealthy that when the Daily Wire was in financial distress, they came to me and said, Tim, your show is about 20% as large as our company. No, I'm sorry, 7%. Perhaps you could buy us out. Yo, this is my favorite part of the conspiracy theory because people are hitting me up all day like, is this true?
Libby Emmons
Did they got a Loan from China and then bought the Daily.
Tim Pool
What is an all stock sale mean?
Phil Avanti
I. I don't have any idea.
Tim Pool
We're going to give you all of the. Like. Okay, just real quick. If the Daily Wire was going to sell their company to me, that implies I am buying all of the stock in the company. So an all stock sale would imply that they wanted stock in Tim Cast in exchange for all of the stock in Daily Wire or they wanted to give me all of the stock. In all seriousness, what.
Phil Avanti
The Daily Wire was publicly traded.
Tim Pool
The quartering. Jeremy Hambly says the whole thing falls apart at quote. They thought Tim Pool could buy the Daily Wire. The Daily wire is a $1 billion evaluation. The claim the Daily Wire thought Tim Cast has the assets is totally insane. I mean, Tim makes a lot of cash, but, dude, there was never any circumstance in which anyone ever asked me to buy the Daily Wire. I have no idea where that comes from. And what source claimed that the Daily. Okay, I. The, The.
Phil Avanti
The.
Tim Pool
The concept of an all stock deal makes no sense in regard to a sale. So I don't know who told Ian that the Daily Wire Try to be a dick. Ian, but that's crazy.
Phil Avanti
Daily Wires privately owned. It's not even.
Tim Pool
It's not even investors.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, but it's not. It's not like.
Libby Emmons
No, but I mean, people have stock in the company. Like the owners and stuff have.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Equity company. Yeah, right. They probably do issue shares in some.
Libby Emmons
F. Like we have that at Post.
Tim Pool
Millennial, you know, but like, they were going to sell the company to me for shares.
Libby Emmons
That implies in the company, the new company that would.
Amber Duke
An all stock sale would mean that the company that's. They get all the stocks from the company that's buying them.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Amber Duke
So for. From your company.
Tim Pool
Exactly. I'm like, it would be implying that they approached me and said, tim, we want half of Tim Cast in exchange for all of Daily Wire.
Amber Duke
Correct.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Okay, yeah. That's just nonsense. But anyway, what do you guys think? I mean, this is kind of unexpected. This is. Jeremy Boring is stepping down. It's a big media move.
Phil Avanti
Look, man, I think that Pendragon is expensive and that's why.
Tim Pool
Those are the rumors. But I gotta be honest, you know, with Ian Carroll's assessment on a lot of these things, I don't think they're right. So he, he was saying previously that they're like. He's saying in this video they're bankrupt and they froze all their credit cards and stuff like that. That's not. That's impossible. Like, guys, I know they're seeking investment funding. Daily Wire wants to be bigger than just, you know, like a podcast sales company. But I've, we've all been there. They've got a merch department where they, they sell products. I think they publicly announced that Mayflower cigars did like $5 million in sales. They are not, not hurting for money. They are looking for rapid expansion in the short term. That's what the investment is for. When I first heard that Jeremy was stepping down, I was like, I kind of just imagine he's an extremely wealthy, middle aged man who doesn't want to be the king of the mountain anymore.
Libby Emmons
I think that's reasonable. Yeah, I think it's a lot to be the king of the mountain.
Tim Pool
Certainly is. And for a company as big as the Daily Wire, I'm wondering if he's just like, I've got a family, I've got kids and I've got more money than I know what to do with.
Libby Emmons
He's got Jeremy's razors and all that. He's got that whole.
Tim Pool
Oh, right, yeah. And I'm wondering like what his ownership percentages are on that. He's probably looking at, he's going to be rich forever. The products he's made, he's going to make forever. He's stepping down as CEO. He's probably getting paid forever. He's an owner in the company. He's going to be rich forever. And the idea that the Daily Wire would freeze everybody's credit cards and shut down, you would know a lot more about the financial distress of the company before that happened. Because that's what a credit card is. It's money that's not yours to spend on things. So there are a lot of companies that go bankrupt well before they shut down credit cards.
Amber Duke
People who are at the top of a really profitable company and are deeply ambitious often have a difficult time just walking away though.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
Like, look at Brett Favre. He couldn't walk.
Tim Pool
I don't know. In the business world, there are founders and there are CEOs and that's, you know, one of the first things you learn when you're working for a startup. The reason why people go to Shark Tank, because they're founders, they're not CEOs. They're going to the guys who run businesses and say, I thought of a product. I've sold, you know, a hundred thousand dollars in product. I need someone who runs a business, take it over. And Jeremy's better than most in that. He started it and built up to this point. But let's be real. It's been what, 10 years? And now he's stepping down. That seems totally normal. Was it. Did we think he was going to be, you know, CEO for life and then retire and they build a Mickey Mouse, like Walt Disney kind of statue of him with Ben Shapiro hugging or something?
Phil Avanti
The drama.
Libby Emmons
That'd be cute.
Tim Pool
You know, perhaps it's just that, you.
Phil Avanti
Know, the, the whole situation is really just a drama situation. It's. It's pretty normal, like for someone to step down, like Tim was saying, you know, I mean, it's kind of a non issue.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil Avanti
The Brett, Brett Cooper aspect might be a little bit interesting considering she, you know, shouted out Caleb and Ben. So clearly there's some, some friction between her and Jeremy. But otherwise it's like, well, so he's doing other things. I, I don't know. I don't have any kind of inside knowledge as to how things are working there. I assume that they spent the boatload of money on Pendra on the Pendragon cycle. We haven't. I haven't seen any kind of. I haven't even seen any kind of like, previews for it. And I've.
Libby Emmons
Is that the children's show one?
Phil Avanti
No, it's like. It's their version of Game of Thrones.
Libby Emmons
Oh, it's their Game of Thrones, you know.
Amber Duke
So are they ever gonna release the Snow White movie or is that dead?
Phil Avanti
I think that's dead, yeah.
Libby Emmons
What happened with that? I was. I sort of liked that. I liked that they. I mean, they basically forced Disney to return to some of the more traditional.
Phil Avanti
Aspects because of the re. The rebooting of.
Tim Pool
Of.
Phil Avanti
Of Disney by Disney doing the reshoots and stuff. I think that made the Daily Wire say, well, we're not going to do it because we have. Or basically we got Disney to do what we wanted, you know, so, so wait, wait here.
Tim Pool
That they've abandoned Snow White?
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I think that, that. I think the Daily Wire is not doing the Snow White. It was supposed to be Brett that was going to be Snow White.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Yeah.
Phil Avanti
So they're not doing it.
Libby Emmons
Should have been the Wicked Queen.
Amber Duke
I thought she said they were filming when she was in Budapest.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, I don't know. But she's not with him now. And I assume that it's not coming out. But the reason that from what I understand and this is not any kind of insider information or whatever, this is just what I've heard is the reason that it's not coming out is because.
Tim Pool
But it's not coming out.
Phil Avanti
Disney decided to redo. That's what I heard.
Tim Pool
But Disney went hardcore woke to the extent that they canceled the red carpet for. For Snow White.
Libby Emmons
Well, there was a lot of pushback, but they did have to. They did reverse a bunch of things.
Phil Avanti
Because it was supposed to be the.
Tim Pool
The.
Libby Emmons
They didn't have the diverse friends anymore.
Phil Avanti
Yeah, they got rid of the diversity Dwarves, seven companions, and they made actual dwarves, and they did a bunch of reshoots. And because of the reshoots, Daily Wire said, okay, they're not doing the woke Snow White. So.
Tim Pool
Yeah, as far as I know, it's still set for release this year.
Phil Avanti
Is it?
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Avanti
All right, we'll see.
Libby Emmons
Well, so didn't the. The Disney Snow White just premiered in Barcelona or something, and no one.
Phil Avanti
And no one likes it, if I understand correctly.
Amber Duke
And one of them didn't go to the premiere or something. One of the actresses.
Libby Emmons
Oh, really?
Amber Duke
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
Interesting. Well, Rachel Zegler was there so that she could say she hates the movie.
Tim Pool
I mean, hates everything. Maybe they. They canceled it. Maybe the trailer is just Once upon.
Amber Duke
A time in time, a prince would come. Once upon a time. But now that time is gone.
Tim Pool
Looks like they made a lot of it.
Phil Avanti
No, this is not new, though.
Tim Pool
No, it's from 2023. I mean, I haven't heard any updates.
Phil Avanti
I haven't heard anything in a while.
Tim Pool
Okay. Well, it's a crazy world we live in.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. I mean, I love the original Snow White. I really. I think.
Tim Pool
Yeah. And Rachel Zegler keeps taking dumps all over it.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, she's wrong. I mean, the original Snow White movie is just terrific.
Phil Avanti
She's a very, very modern feminist woman. And that is, I mean, wrong.
Tim Pool
But.
Libby Emmons
Well, I was a modern feminist before her, and it's still a killer film. Great movie.
Phil Avanti
Fair enough.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Amber Duke
But it was the first animated film, right?
Libby Emmons
Wasn't it? Yeah, might have been. Yeah. And the thing, too, that's so great about. About that story and what got screwed up in the Rachel Zegler version, from how she was talking about it. She was talking about it like, there's no prince. There's no falling in love. It's just blind ambition because of how much power she could have. But that's the Wicked Queen's role. The Wicked Queen's role is to be all about blind ambition. And the counter to that is whenever the left being. Having love and caring about other things.
Phil Avanti
Whenever the left tries to reboot or do a. A female as the strong type, they always turn them into a Villain. Right. So Snow White is. Oh well, it's. It's not about finding true love and blah blah blah. It's. I'm going to be the most that I can. Well that was exactly what the, the evil queen or the witch or whatever was. And they did the same thing with. What is it? The Captain Marvel.
Libby Emmons
She.
Phil Avanti
She literally beat up a nor. Like she's superpowered.
Tim Pool
She.
Phil Avanti
The guy and a guy says to her, you should smile or something. So she beats him up and takes.
Tim Pool
His clothes and his motorcycle.
Phil Avanti
Yeah. Robs him.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Avanti
She was evil, you know, so that's.
Tim Pool
And they wanted people to cheer for that. They wanted women to cheer for that because they're idiots. We're gonna go to super chats and rumble rants. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know. Did you guys know that if everybody was watching right now? Because they're like 90 something, 94, 000 people. If you all at once shared this video on X, it would be the number one trend in the world. Just saying. Just saying is all. But don't forget we got that uncensored members only call in show coming up at 10 where you as members of the Tim cast Discord, call into the show and talk to us and our guests. It's a lot of fun and not so family friendly, but always fun and funny. Let's grab some of your chats. Shane into Wilder says congrats on being number one. Speaking of number one, tune in to PCC Pop Culture Crisis 2pm tomorrow for episode 800. We're going to have fun. It will probably go off the rails and I will be joining in. That's popculturecrisis.com my friends. If you haven't already checked out Pop Culture Crisis with Mary Morgan and Brett Dasavic, you're missing out. Monday through Friday 3 to 5 Alpha Turkey says Phil is right. The issue is always the revolution. Also Phil, you took my advice and I see them triceps coming back.
Phil Avanti
Thanks.
Tim Pool
Well, all right, let's see what we have here. Stop the stalking says conspiracy theories exist because of what they don't want to find. Never. Never. What they hid. Hiding isn't necessary if you never find it. Like Covid Hans1pk says. Did you see page 45689? It tells us the truth of JFK. Come on. People understand radical transparency requires digging through the files. Not as simple as a three page document.
Phil Avanti
It just came out.
Tim Pool
Just came out. Right. All right. Buck Bolt says Tim, why do you think we have not heard anything About Trump's second Amendment executive order. The date of the response was over a week ago and we got nothing. Why does it feel like us in the two way are always forgot? I don't know. I don't know.
Phil Avanti
Because it's actually the second all dedicated group of people that care about the second Amendment.
Tim Pool
The. I think the second amendment people have made tremendous, tremendous victories for a long time.
Phil Avanti
Yep.
Tim Pool
So that's why it's like, you know, our sergeant says, tim, I love you, but you are wrong. If you are getting arrested, you have to be Mirandized. If you are being detained, you do not wrong, you are incorrect. The purpose of the reading the Miranda rights, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you can or anything you say or do will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to attorney. If you do not, if you cannot afford attorney, one will be appointed to you. And then I think it's what are you? Are you. Do you understand the rights as they've been read to you? That is when police are conducting an investigation, meaning if they ask you any questions before you even read your rights, anything you say is inadmissible. If a police officer witnesses you committing a crime, there's no investigation to be had. They are the, are the witness in court. They simply write down, I saw them do it. You don't need to say anything. This is why when people get arrested for DUIs and are drunk, they don't get Mirandized. So I'm sure there are a lot of cops that want to Mirandize people. And in the movies and TV shows, they show this, but this is not the case. And, you know, so it's funny when this has actually come up quite a bit with all these protests, because there's one particular really viral moment from Occupy Wall street where a woman is being arrested and she goes, I have not been read my rights. And she yells it several times. And the activist legal groups held meetings where they had to instruct the activists, you will not be read your rights. Do not yell this. And they had to explain to people not to do that because cops will not read you your rights. I also want to, I also want to just point out to you, good sir, our sergeant, imagine a scenario like the arrests in Washington D.C. at Trump's inauguration, where they arrested, I think it was 250 people. They loaded them onto buses and took them to the station. Not a single one was Mirandized. How would they Mirandize hundreds of people at once? They don't do that. So it's funny because we've actually had cops on the show. I'm pretty sure. Talk about this. They were like, I'm not investigating anything. I watched you do it. I think we're talking about Jack Poso, but getting. Getting punched by that antifa guy. Yep. All right, let's grab some more of these here. Messages from all Yalls. What say you, Dan Harlan? Sorry I'm late, but I had to go back to make sure. I heard that someone was an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Was not disappointed. Let's go.
Phil Avanti
Yep.
Tim Pool
I also want to stress the new. I figured out the best way to get likes because you tell people, smash the like button and they say, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if I say every like is one more year to Foushee's prison sentence. We. We got 17,500 likes yesterday, and I.
Phil Avanti
Deserve every one of them.
Tim Pool
So smash that like button and then I will. I will take a screenshot and I will send it to the president and say that's how many years he's got to get.
Phil Avanti
Look, he knows the president. He's met him.
Tim Pool
He knows the president.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
I would like to see some real accountability, but I doubt Fauci will give in a year. We'll see what happens.
Libby Emmons
All right, he's been pardoned.
Tim Pool
Did he get pardoned or did a robot sign a document? Could you. Okay. I just want you to imagine they're in the White House. It's Fauci, it's Hunter, it's Millie. And they're sitting there looking at each other and there's just sweat pouring down their faces. And then they're like, hit the buttons and then they slide the pardon, they print it up and they press the button and it goes, Joe Biden. And then he's like, okay, let's get out of here.
Libby Emmons
Well, you have to put a card in that machine to make it work. Hunter Biden's pardon was previous to that. I think the last day pardons were Millie Fauci and the J6 committee.
Amber Duke
Yep.
Libby Emmons
So. But Hunter's. Hunter's pardon was. Was previous to that. So I think Hunter's is legit because, you know you're going to look after your bag man. That's important to you. But yeah, I think it's. What I think is interesting about this Auto Pen thing is you had the oversight, Oversight project come out today and isolate 32 other instances where autopen was used on, you know, whatever other stuff warrants, clemencies and some other things and pardons warrants of Clement. Whatever. Whatever it is. You know what it is. I don't know. Well, but Heritage Point had all of this. Yeah, it was heritage. It all, it all came out.
Tim Pool
But they pointed out that some of the pardons previously issued were on dates Biden was not in the United States.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
So he did not.
Libby Emmons
So he did not do it himself. But he could have authorized it. And I think it makes sense to ask about that. I mean, don't I? Communication. They all know each other.
Tim Pool
I think that outright voids them.
Libby Emmons
I don't think. I don't think it voids them retroactively. A press.
Tim Pool
You're right. They were boy to begin with.
Libby Emmons
Made at this point saying you can't use auto pen for, I think, clemency.
Tim Pool
They're not real. They're not real. And I'm sorry. That's your fault. If you sign pardons with an auto pen, that's your fault. Could you imagine if I were like signing a legal document and then they found out I didn't actually authorize a signature?
Libby Emmons
What about all the equals from the president about how great it was that they were Eagle Scouts? Does he not actually care?
Tim Pool
Of course he doesn't. I would say right now, stamp Supreme Court. Supreme Court has not adjudicated the issue of auto penalty. Therefore, the Biden administration has opened themselves up to this by issuing pardon signed with auto pen. That means Trump can challenge whether or not Biden had had knowledge of these. And they're going to have to justify. If Biden did, then you have the argument that even Jake Tapper has argued Biden is cognitively impaired. And then you can ask, is a cognitively impaired president able to give authorization on signing documents? And I think the conclusion is going to be no. Because if cognitively impaired president said launch Z missiles, we would say no to that, even if they are the president.
Libby Emmons
So how does this end up at the Supreme Court? Someone would have to prosecute Foushee. Yeah.
Tim Pool
And then Fauci is going, his defense is going to go to the judge and say, I've got a pardon.
Libby Emmons
Bennie Thompson first.
Tim Pool
Sure. Look, the, the, the judge is going to say it's a pardon. Bang, dismissed. They appeal to a higher court and they argue that pardon ain't legit because Joe Biden was.
Libby Emmons
They're going to take the time to do all this.
Tim Pool
I don't know. I'd imagine no. And as much as people want the cathartic release of Fauci in jail, I think Trump's concern is move forward and win the battlefield I want you to imagine the scenario where Donald Trump is marching to the sea and he is burning down every farm, destroying roads and railroad tracks, and then, like, Sherman. Exactly.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
But he's in the deep state, and a bunch of people go, Mr. President, stop. Stop attacking the deep state, because 10 miles behind you is Dr. Fauci. Go get him. Instead, Trump's going to be like, I know you're mad. I know you want us to arrest him, but we have a mission, and we are going to march to the sea. He ain't going to stop. So I don't see the DOJ deciding to go apply resources to go after one guy because it would feel good, and we know it's justice. When the reality is Trump saying, let's make sure they can never do it again.
Amber Duke
I don't know, though. The DOJ is also doing an investigation into the remaining military officials who were responsible for the Afghanistan withdrawal.
Tim Pool
That's based.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, yeah.
Phil Avanti
But.
Amber Duke
But this week at the.
Tim Pool
But they're still active, right? They're still in the military. That's different.
Amber Duke
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Like, Fauci is gone, and so it's like, let's make sure this never happens again. How? Okay, those involved in Afghanistan, out. Foushee. He's already gone. Okay, well, let's. Trump's going to march to the sea on the deep state. And then after all is said and done, maybe. But the other thing, too, is. How old is Foushee? 70 something.
Libby Emmons
He's an old man.
Tim Pool
Right. Look, I know people want, again, the cathartic release, but I want to win. You know what I mean?
Libby Emmons
I feel like there's bigger fish to fry than Foushee at this point.
Tim Pool
Yeah, well, I mean, he's a big fish. I'm just saying, if there's a guy standing to your left and the gates of the enemy's fortress are left open, you don't say, no, no, no, no. We'll go there when we get time. Let's go. Let's go. Take this guy. He's a criminal. Right. We'll arrest him. It's like, okay, maybe after you seize the fortress and. And disable their ability to wage political lawfare against you, then you can start dealing with things like that. I would rather see them go into the NIH and have, like, RFK juniors are releasing documents first. Things like that, I think are more important. Learn about what they were actually funding, what was going on. That'd be. That'd be amazing.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that would be worthwhile.
Tim Pool
Let's grab some more. Okay, let's see. Let's see. Oh, I know there's one that I want to read. Let me see. Where'd it go? It just jumped on me. So the real hydro says, tim, have you ever thought about naming the show Dunning Kruger Effect? Well, I thought about it, but. But considering Ian's only on sometimes, then he says, also, how are you not tired? You have a newborn? Huh. That was an interesting question. As if to imply I have to be tired. I know. Not only do I have a newborn, but I skate every day for about an hour, and I get seven hours of sleep. I time it. I have a sleep tracker, two of them. I do a morning show. And, yeah, I'm not tired. Not tired. Was up till about midnight last night because, you know, baby. And then the baby woke us up, you know, a couple times. But look, I don't feed the baby. I'm a guy, so I largely just sit there. As the baby's mother, you're equipped to feed the baby.
Amber Duke
Well, I've always been confused by this argument that I think it's a feminist thing that, like, if the mom isn't sleeping, then dad shouldn't be sleeping either, and it's like an indication that he's not doing enough. But don't you want at least one parent to be well rested if you have.
Libby Emmons
I loved being up with my son at night, like, when it was, you know, because he would, like, wake up all through the night. And I was like, oh, this is my time. Nobody can mess with it. But I'm just.
Phil Avanti
If dad has to go to work, right, make the money.
Amber Duke
Dad needs to go to sleep.
Phil Avanti
Mom has to get up and take care of the baby. If there's something going on, then fine. Like, dad, mom needs to sleep. Whatever, fine. But most of the time, that's the.
Tim Pool
Way that it should work. I have already explained to Allison. I don't know what anyone's been talking about. They always say, like, oh, you're gonna be woken up. What do you mean? Every night I go to bed and all that. All that happens. I hear a chorus of beautiful angels singing all night. That's all it is. But, I mean, the baby cries and I wake up, and then Allison, who is the mom, will feed the child. I have no capability to do so. And then, you know, I, you know, give her a pat on the shoulder, and I go back to sleep and I wake up up, and I feel great. And then I. It could be. I think I figured out maybe it's because I eat right and I exercise it does help.
Libby Emmons
I don't know.
Phil Avanti
Big deal.
Libby Emmons
When my. When I. My son was an infant, I don't remember being tired all the time. I would like.
Tim Pool
Allison's tired.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that's so.
Amber Duke
That's.
Libby Emmons
I would. But I would like hormones when.
Amber Duke
So that you'll have another.
Libby Emmons
He would sleep.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Yeah, right.
Amber Duke
Your body forgets you look not.
Libby Emmons
I also remember him being absolutely perfect. Never cry.
Amber Duke
Exactly. That's biology.
Phil Avanti
Look. Well, that good.
Tim Pool
I was going to say. That's why whenever Allison's like, oh, she woke me up at 4, I'm like, all I heard was angel singing. Ling me to a sweet, sweet sleep.
Phil Avanti
And Allison, seeing as Alan takes care. Allison takes care of the baby. Allison is entitled to take a nap with the baby during the day. You know, I'm sure that that's the.
Libby Emmons
Right thing to do.
Phil Avanti
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yeah. And then when I'm not working, I will. I've bottle fed baby. But we're trying not to do formula.
Phil Avanti
For the video games with baby on the chest.
Libby Emmons
But you don't have to. Yeah, I mean, tummy time. There's ways to make that work out.
Tim Pool
Well, yeah, like, obviously we have formula because you supplement with it, but we really want to make sure baby has a, like, you know, proper nutritious meal. Proper. I don't like formula.
Amber Duke
RFK is looking into formula right now.
Libby Emmons
I don't like formula either.
Tim Pool
Okay. What have we here? Dirt Nap Says in the un. In the unlit Molotov scenario, you would be read your Miranda rights because it is destructive device and illegal to possess without a tax stamp. Why would they read you your rights if they're not investigating you? You're literally holding the thing. I don't think people understand. The reason why you're Mirandized is because you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say or do can and will be used against you. They're telling you that because it started with the individual. What's. It was a woman, right? Something. No, it was a guy. Something. Miranda. And didn't know they had a right to remain silent or whatever. And then they were like, yeah, well, you should have told them. And it's not fair. Everything he said is inadmissible. And they went, ah, crap, he confessed. Okay, from this point forward, read them their rights. Therefore, everything they say after the fact is admissible. But I don't need your words to convict you. If you're literally holding a Molotov cocktail in front of a Tesla dealership, I can literally bet your honor he was holding a mouth Cocktail and a lighter trying to light it in front of a Tesla dealership. He would say, okay, we have witness testimony from the cop. What say you? You're going to lie about it? Whatever. Here's cameras. Anyway, our sergeant says, are you an illegal immigrant? Do you want to stay in America, turn in your coyote and or 10 known violent sexual criminal immigrants and get fast tracked for green card evaluation. And then when they walk into the green card room, it's just a mine cart that they sit in and it goes down like a roller coaster and then brings them back to the country they came from. GSO5 9 says, Our car insurance is going to get expensive. Indeed it is. Teslas are insured by Tesla. This is what's really funny because some leftists were like, haha, they're not gonna be able to get insurance. And I'm like, tesla insures their own vehicles like Tesla. They have it in the app. Boop. Tesla insurance.
Phil Avanti
Oh really?
Tim Pool
That's right. You open the app, you click Tesla insurance, it goes boom. And it auto bills easy. Our sargent says, I love the art in the studio. The skateboard and the paintings. Effing great. Thank you very much. Yeah, the skateboard is the right to arm bears. So if you believe that bears should be wearing flannel flannel shirts, straw hats and brandishing shotguns, then boonieshq.com pick up your right to arm bears skateboard today. Okay, where are we at? Someone says, did they find you, Tim? Indeed they did not. They didn't. Although I'm pretty sure everybody knows where we are. You know, the funny thing is I mentioned before we're on the old studio anymore and cars still pull up and just people get out and stand there.
Libby Emmons
At the old studio.
Tim Pool
Yeah, they'll just pull up. Like they pull up to the driveway and it's like a 1, 000 foot driveway. I'm not exaggerating. It's up, up, it's up. It's, it's okay, it's a mountain. But it's an east coast mountain. Guys, west coasters leave me alone.
Libby Emmons
It's hilly.
Tim Pool
But, but it is a mountain. So these are the, the Blue Ridge Mountains. And then every time I say that, people from, you know, Colorado, they cross their arms and look at me and I'm like, you got big ones. Whatever.
Libby Emmons
They're older. They're older than those stupid Rockies.
Tim Pool
But they pull up and stop and they get out of the car and they just stand there staring for like 20 minutes. And I'm like, what are they Doing. And they just stand there.
Phil Avanti
The mountains over here are older than the Atlantic Ocean, too.
Libby Emmons
Really?
Phil Avanti
Yeah. The. There are the Appalachians. Actually go into Scotland and Norway, I believe, too.
Libby Emmons
I had a great time. It was really fun.
Tim Pool
Yeah. The. The Appalachian Trail. You can take a ship, go there, and then follow it in Scotland and, yeah, I think goes into Norway, too.
Libby Emmons
That's very.
Tim Pool
It's the International Appalachian Trail. Yeah. Very cool. Cool indeed. All right, where are we at? David Smith says Occam's Razor. Maybe a DMV employee, but most likely a Tesla employee at a service point where all the sales info comes across their desk. With all the info, I. I actually think the. The. The public observation makes the most sense. They tell their people online, if you see a Tesla, write down the license plate and then we'll put it on the website. It's that. It's. It's. That's the easiest way to do it.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Creepy.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that is creepy.
Tim Pool
Stephen Sanders as. I wonder if they hacked into the Flock database, which is a license plate software that most agencies throughout the United States use to track vehicles. Hmm. Babe, Beyblade says please upvote. You can upvote these. Tim, can you confirm Ian Carroll's post or the Daily Wire and you trying to buy it? There is a universe somewhere where I am so wealthy, perhaps the heir to an emerald mine in South Africa, that I attempted to buy the Daily Wire. No such reality. This. This reality is not that one. So Timothy Rhodes says, you guys see Utah's governor got busted forging signatures to get on the ballot. Innocent governor are illegitimate based on the latest story. Say what? Crazy. What? That's nuts. Oh, YouTube's giving me the business. Let's see what we got here. We'll grab some more. All right, where are we at, Spike? 11111 says the FBI and Laura loomer go after this website. My money on Loomer getting them first. I agree with that, actually. Laura Loomer's gonna find out who's behind the website before the FBI does.
Phil Avanti
That's Laura Loomer. Doesn't sleep.
Tim Pool
I mean, she. She gets the job done, if you know what I mean. Like, she. She's got sources. She gets these stories out there. If she starts looking, she's gonna figure it out. Rosen Brand says the Deep State desperately wants us divided and in a civil war. Yeah, I think we've talked about it before. A civil war would be the fastest way to get rid of the Constitution.
Phil Avanti
Yep.
Tim Pool
I hope that's not the case. Or hope it doesn't happen. Hal Gailey says the libertarian position is aggressors are fair game. So are they going to say that we're going to go at the Red Sea or something?
Phil Avanti
And they, they always say that Israel is the aggressor because. Because of the, you know, it was Palestine before Israel.
Tim Pool
So Jason Dixon says Tim is correct about the Miranda warning. I'm a cop.
Phil Avanti
There you go.
Tim Pool
There you go. That's right. Well, we had a cop on the show who was saying that. He was saying, you don't. Miranda is people you're not investigating. You watch them do it. What do you mean? You don't need to ask him any questions. I saw you do it. Yeah.
Libby Emmons
There's conflicting information online. Some says that as soon as you're arrested you get Miranda is. And others say only if they're going to be questioning you.
Tim Pool
Only if they're going to be questioning.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So if there's an investigation to be had. So again, it's really funny to watch these leftists in the street screaming, I've not been read my rights. And the cops are just laughing. They're like, these people are nuts because.
Libby Emmons
We'Re not going to read them to you.
Tim Pool
Yeah, dude. It's like, dude, I watched you throw the rock. What are you talking about? The Y Wing says plot twist. The Daily Wire drops the Snow White movie on the same day as Disney's. Since that movie is going to bomb. It is. I mean, how insane would it be if the Daily Wire got their Snow White in theaters the same time as Disney's? Because the name Snow White's clearly public domain. Right.
Libby Emmons
At this point it's got to be 100 years. I don't think it's been 100 years yet.
Tim Pool
They don't. I don't think Disney owned the car.
Libby Emmons
Right. Because it was a no.
Phil Avanti
Because the brothers Grim.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Right. So it's public domain. That's why they made it interesting.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So they could. They could release this the same day. It would hurt their own market share, but it would brutally just demolish Disney's. That'd be hilarious.
Phil Avanti
Yeah. I don't know if.
Tim Pool
I mean, aren't Both slated for 2025.
Libby Emmons
But I don't think they finished it.
Tim Pool
I have no idea. Has there been any updates on this?
Libby Emmons
No.
Tim Pool
Yeah. All right, my friends, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, we're going to that uncensored members only call in show where you as members of the timcast.com discord server are going to call in talk to us and our guest about gentle musings and whatnot. So make sure you go to Timcast premium.com sign up using promo code Tim10 that redirects you to rumble. It's. It's a. It's a URL. So you can go right to Rumble to sign up and then it's a rumble.com timcast IRL. It's going to be a lot of fun. And if you want to join the discord server, it's timcast.com youm click join us. Get in the Discord server. Tens of thousands of people hanging out every single day and they want to be friends with you. So smash the like button. Share the show. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Amber, do you want to shout anything out?
Amber Duke
Yeah, I'm on X and Instagram at Ambermarie Duke. Check out the Daily Caller.com and on YouTube. The hills rising every Friday and Reason Free media every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Libby Emmons
You can. I'm. I'm tired. Sorry.
Phil Avanti
Come on. Come on.
Libby Emmons
I'm Libby Evans on Twitter and you can check out everything we're doing@thepostmillennial.com every day. And you can sign up for my newsletter@thepostmillennial.com Libby Thanks.
Phil Avanti
Libby Washed her hair today too, so. I did.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. Only because you guys called me last minute to see if I could.
Phil Avanti
Come on, you know, thanks for. For coming in and saving the day.
Tim Pool
I am filled.
Phil Avanti
It remains on Twix. I feel it remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. Our new record dropped on January 31st. It's called anti Fragile. You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
Tim Pool
Before we go, we have one more super chat from lurch685 who says week three of Tim skipping all my super chats. Woo. Not that one, buddy. Thanks for hanging. We'll see you all in 30 seconds@rumble.com Timcast IRL.
Timcast IRL Podcast Summary
Episode: JFK FILES RELEASED, Shocking Documents Released By Trump DROPPED w/Amber Duke
Host/Author: Timcast Media (Tim Pool)
Release Date: March 19, 2025
In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool, along with guests Amber Duke, Libby Emmons, and Phil Avanti, delves into the recent release of the JFK assassination files, the surge in terroristic attacks targeting Tesla dealerships, and Donald Trump's escalating feud with Judge Boasberg. The discussion is enriched with insights, debates, and notable quotes, providing listeners with a comprehensive analysis of these pressing issues.
Overview: The episode begins with the announcement of 80,000 pages of JFK assassination files released by the Trump administration. Pool emphasizes the rapid release—all documents were made available within approximately 30 minutes—leading to limited immediate analysis.
Document Analysis:
Amber Duke explains that initial assessments using AI tools like Grok indicate no groundbreaking conspiracy revelations, particularly lacking the often speculated "grassy knoll" evidence.
"If you're looking for that bombshell moment, you're probably not going to find it in these documents."
– Amber Duke [06:17]
Libby Emmons and Phil Avanti discuss a provocative document implicating the CIA in JFK's assassination, referencing individuals like John Garrett Underhill Jr. However, upon closer inspection, they highlight inconsistencies suggesting the possibility of fabricated or fictional elements within the files.
"The CIA is honeycombed with self-contained clicks, operating without any real central control."
– Phil Avanti [16:38]
Discussion of Underhill Document: Tim Pool reads an excerpt from the documents suggesting CIA involvement, but the guests uncover potential fabrication, with Libby Emmons verifying Underhill's existence and questioning the document's authenticity.
"He's been there since... was a writer and researcher in the area of military affairs who is alleged to have had high-level Pentagon connections."
– Tim Pool [12:30]
Concluding Thoughts: The guests agree that while the release offers more context on JFK's era, it fails to provide the explosive evidence many conspiracy theorists hoped for. They also caution that additional classified files might still be unreleased, drawing parallels to the Epstein files debacle.
"It's a lot of information, but without context, it's difficult to piece together the existing story."
– Libby Emmons [14:45]
Overview: Tim Pool shifts focus to a disturbing trend of terroristic attacks on Tesla dealerships in Kansas City and Las Vegas, resembling the notorious Weather Underground attacks from the 1960s.
Comparison to Weather Underground:
Phil Avanti likens the current violence to the Weather Underground's bombs but notes a shift towards targeting conservatives.
"These are attempts on the lives of conservatives... it seems to be getting worse."
– Phil Avanti [09:00]
Doxing Websites:
The discussion highlights websites doxing Tesla owners, listing their private addresses and supercharger locations.
"It's doxing on a wide scale... mapping out Tesla dealership locations."
– Amber Duke [32:30]
Public Reaction and Governmental Response:
Guests express deep concern over the safety of Tesla owners, with Libby Emmons recalling past doxing incidents targeting the Daily Caller staff.
Phil Avanti advocates for strict legal repercussions, labeling the perpetrators as terrorists.
"Throw them in jail and throw the book at them."
– Phil Avanti [66:14]
Potential Pathways to Civil War or Increased Authoritarianism:
Tim Pool contemplates the possibility of a civil war, citing the escalation of violence and judicial overreach.
"When you cross that with an administration that won a popular mandate and is seeking to gut and dismantle that bureaucratic state... We are looking at almost 20 prominent personalities being targeted."
– Tim Pool [35:00]
The guests debate the effectiveness of law enforcement and the feasibility of rehabilitating terrorists, ultimately suggesting imprisonment as the primary solution.
"Charge people with crimes... put them through the legal system."
– Libby Emmons [57:30]
Background: A significant portion of the discussion centers on Trump's demand to impeach Judge Boasberg, who argued that he possesses equitable power to alter military flights.
Implications for the Balance of Powers:
Amber Duke and Phil Avanti express concerns over the judicial overreach and its impact on executive authority.
"The judiciary is not supposed to interpose itself between the president and the will of the people."
– Phil Avanti [73:25]
Tim Pool's Scenario: Pool presents a hypothetical scenario where a judge tries to commandeer military operations, emphasizing the absurdity of such overreach.
"Imagine the president tells, get some guys, get on this plane... a district court judge bangs the gavel and says, turn those planes around."
– Tim Pool [69:03]
Concluding Insights: The guests argue that this feud represents a broader conflict between populist movements and the established bureaucratic state, potentially paving the way for further political instability.
"They're trying to use simultaneously terrorism against Elon and conservatives with the swatting... as well as administrative attacks on the Constitution."
– Tim Pool [75:00]
Overview: In a shift to media dynamics, Jeremy Boring, co-CEO of the Daily Wire, announces his departure to focus on creative projects.
Conspiracy Theories and Clarifications:
Phil Avanti and Tim Pool address various rumors suggesting that the departure is part of a larger conspiracy, including plans to sell the company to Pool—claims they vehemently deny.
"The concept of an all-stock deal makes no sense in regard to a sale."
– Tim Pool [90:12]
Libby Emmons and Amber Duke consider the possibility of internal friction between co-CEOs, but majority consensus points toward normal business restructuring.
Tim Pool's Speculation: Pool muses that Boring's departure might be due to personal reasons, such as wanting to spend more time with family or pursuing other interests, rather than any nefarious plans.
"I think Jeremy's a great guy... Likely looking at... He's going to be rich forever."
– Tim Pool [92:11]
Mental Health and Protest Responses: The hosts touch upon government strategies for handling protests, such as sending social workers with police officers, which they argue may escalate violent situations rather than de-escalate them.
Immigration and Legal Issues:
Amber Duke discusses the CBP1 app, initially intended for importing goods, later repurposed for immigration control, and now used in public service announcements urging self-deportation.
"Go home, use the app... and maybe you can come back legally."
– Tim Pool [78:33]
Media Influence and Public Perception: The episode critiques mainstream media's portrayal of violent protests as "peaceful," arguing that this obfuscates reality and shifts blame onto victims.
"They are attacking Tesla dealerships not because they don't like his cars... but because he's working with the current administration that is purely political."
– Tim Pool [30:24]
The episode concludes with timely reminders for listeners to engage with the show via Rumble and other platforms, encouraging them to share and like the content to amplify their reach. The hosts reaffirm their commitment to uncensored discussions on pressing political and social issues.
"Smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know."
– Tim Pool [120:00]
JFK Files Release: The substantial release of JFK assassination documents offers more historical context but lacks sensational conspiracy evidence.
Rise in Domestic Terrorism: An alarming increase in targeted attacks against Tesla dealerships symbolizing broader political violence and potential civil unrest.
Judicial Overreach: Trump's feud with Judge Boasberg underscores tensions between executive authority and judicial independence, raising concerns about the balance of powers.
Media Dynamics: Daily Wire's CEO stepping down stirs conspiracy theories but appears to be a standard business move without underlying malintent.
Call to Action: The hosts stress the importance of engaging with alternative media platforms to stay informed and support their mission against mainstream narrative distortions.
Notable Quotes:
"If you're looking for that bombshell moment, you're probably not going to find it in these documents."
– Amber Duke [06:17]
"These are attempts on the lives of conservatives... it seems to be getting worse."
– Phil Avanti [09:00]
"The judiciary is not supposed to interpose itself between the president and the will of the people."
– Phil Avanti [73:25]
"Find them, throw them in jail, and throw the book at them."
– Phil Avanti [66:14]
"They're attacking Tesla dealerships not because they don't like his cars... but because he's working with the current administration that is purely political."
– Tim Pool [30:24]
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the critical discussions and insights shared during the episode, providing a clear understanding of the topics covered for those who have not listened to the podcast.