Jimmy Kimmel CRIES, Slams MAGA As SCUMBAGS For Call Out LAFD DEI w/Daniel Negreanu

Summary

Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – "Jimmy Kimmel CRIES, Slams MAGA As SCUMBAGS For Call Out LAFD DEI w/Daniel Negreanu"

Release Date: January 15, 2025

Introduction

In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool delves into the controversial remarks made by Jimmy Kimmel regarding the Los Angeles Fire Department's (LAFD) Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies amidst the recent wildfires in California. Joining Pool are notable guests Daniel Negreanu, a professional poker player; Raymond G. Stanley Jr., an American Marine veteran; and Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. The discussion spans topics from government mismanagement and DEI implications to foreign policy ambitions and media critique.

1. Jimmy Kimmel's Comments and DEI in LAFD

Tim Pool opens the episode by addressing Jimmy Kimmel's recent statement in which Kimmel referred to MAGA supporters and certain personalities as a "gaggle of scumbags" for criticizing the LAFD's DEI policies. Pool challenges Kimmel's framing, arguing that the criticism is centered on DEI exacerbating wildfire management issues, not on the racial composition of firefighters.

• "It's not our criticism they're saying people aren't white; we're saying mismanagement is the issue," Pool asserts at [00:00].

2. DEI's Impact on Wildfire Management

The conversation shifts to how DEI policies have impacted the effectiveness of the LAFD. Pool highlights that DEI initiatives have led to understaffing and hiring challenges, which in turn have hindered wildfire response efforts.

• "They've been complaining for years about having too many white people. Adam Carolla pointed out that as a white man, he was held back for seven years," Pool explains at [07:13].

3. Government Mismanagement and Resource Allocation

Guests agree that mismanagement, rather than DEI itself, is the primary issue affecting wildfire responses. Phil Labonte emphasizes the lack of governmental accountability and consistent policy-making, attributing the exacerbation of disasters to prolonged single-party governance.

• "The government of California has been a single-party government for at least three decades... it just leads to terrible results." Labonte remarks at [08:56].

4. Response to John Kimmel’s Criticism

Pool critiques Kimmel's portrayal of DEI critics, arguing that the real issue lies in systemic mismanagement and lack of preparedness rather than racial diversity among firefighters. He references a clip of Elizabeth Warren condemning the DEI chief's remarks about firefighters' racial composition.

• "It's not that we're saying people are not white. That should be called out. Yeah." Pool comments after playing the clip at [12:12].

5. Foreign Policy Ambitions: Greenland and Panama Canal

The discussion transitions to Trump’s foreign policy proposals, particularly his interest in acquiring Greenland and controlling the Panama Canal. The panel debates the feasibility and strategic importance of these moves, considering geopolitical tensions with countries like China and Russia.

• "Greenland gives us control of the Northwest Passage and oil leases, making us dominant on the world stage." Phil Labonte states at [69:44].

6. Media Critique and Narrative Control

Daniel Negreanu and other guests criticize legacy media for perpetuating biased narratives and sensationalizing incidents to discredit critics like Trump. They argue that independent media outlets like Timcast provide a platform for more authentic and unfiltered discussions.

• "Trump creates stories that are flashes in the pan... they profit from it." Negreanu explains at [57:21].

7. Women in Combat Roles

A significant portion of the episode addresses the contentious issue of women in combat roles within the military. Pool and his guests express skepticism about the effectiveness and preparedness of women in such demanding positions, citing physiological differences and anecdotal evidence from military experiences.

• "Women have less muscle density, less bone density... men are expendable." Tim Pool discusses at [85:55].
• "If standards are manipulated to include specific demographics, it's putting lives at risk." Negreanu adds at [90:09].

8. Internal Military Challenges

Raymond G. Stanley Jr. shares firsthand insights into military training, emphasizing that while standards are ostensibly equal, practical challenges and institutional biases hinder women's performance and integration into combat units.

• "If you're in the field, they have nothing to do with the firefighters. God bless them." Stanley comments at [49:33].

9. Election Integrity and Policy Shifts

The panel touches upon election integrity, citing cases of ballot discards and the politicization of electoral processes. They critique how political motivations influence policy decisions and public perception.

• "When you touch the narrative, you lose trust in the media and the government." Tim Pool states at [65:02].

10. Closing Discussions and Member Promotions

As the episode concludes, Tim Pool encourages listeners to become members of Timcast for access to exclusive content and community engagement. The guests promote their own projects, such as Daniel Negreanu’s Mania Podcast, and reflect on the ongoing political and social challenges discussed.

Notable Quotes

• Tim Pool at [00:00]: "Jimmy Kimmel went on a show and said that we're all a gaggle of scumbags."
• Elizabeth Warren Clip at [05:16]: "Instead of attacking our firefighters, we want to focus on thanking those men and women."
• Phil Labonte at [08:56]: "The government of California has been a single-party government for at least three decades... it just leads to terrible results."
• Daniel Negreanu at [57:21]: "Trump creates stories that are flashes in the pan... they profit from it."
• Tim Pool at [85:55]: "Women have less muscle density, less bone density... men are expendable."

Conclusion

This episode of Timcast IRL provides a comprehensive analysis of the intersection between DEI policies and disaster management, critiquing mainstream media narratives and exploring broader political implications. Through engaging discussions with experts from diverse backgrounds, Tim Pool presents an independent perspective on pressing current events, encouraging critical thinking and community involvement among his audience.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

So Jimmy Kimmel went on a show and said that we're all a gaggle of scumbags. He called the president, the alleged president, incoming president, and then said his gaggle of scumbags were criticizing the firefighters for not being white enough or whatever the assumption is. Of course, he's talking about personalities who are criticizing the DEI policies which exacerbated the problems in the California wildfires. But thanks, Jimmy, for calling us scumbags. I guess the reality is. Well, I won't be so crass, but let me just put it this way. How much you think the Biden administration's gonna give to the victims in the LA wildfires? I know you're thinking of a number, but you're wrong. It's not $700. It's $770. They increased it. So maybe I won't use the word scumbag, but I really want to when it comes to these issues. So thanks, Jimmy. We'll talk about that. And then, of course, we have Pete Hegseth in the news with these wild Senate confirmation hearings. And it's just, you know, I'm watching these just thinking to myself, it's all fake. Tim Kaine going after Hegseth, accusing him of cheating and other nonsense. Elizabeth Warren coming after him because that women shouldn't be in combat. I'm like, none of these people are asking real questions that matter for someone who's going to be defending this nation. But there was this really funny moment where Senator Mullins called out the Democrats for not saying anything when other senators show up to vote drunk if they got a problem with Hegseth. So a lot of funny stuff to talk about before we get started. My friends. Head over to cast brew.com. buy cast brew coffee. I could probably use a nice warm glass of decaf because I'm losing my voice. But what can I do about it? We still have two weeks till Christmas available where Phil is dressed like Santa Claus. You can get that one.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Get it.

[Tim Pool]

And then, of course, we have Ian's graphene dream, which he Somehow has sold 1100 bags of this coffee in a week. The guy is crazy. I don't know, but I want to get this on the front page. We haven't yet. Focus with Mr. Bocus. That's right. He's Mr. Bocus. He is there. And this is our espresso roast. Check it out. But also become a [e-mail] click join us because the members only show will be epic tonight. As a member, you get access to our Discord server You can hang out with like minded individuals. It's a lot of fun and it makes the show possible. If you like the show, if you like the people on the show, if you think we do a good job, we need you to become members because that's principally how we fund everything. You will get access to the Discord server, which is like a chat room and you get to call in to our members only show and talk to us and our guests. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Daniel Negrano.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Welcome. Yeah, hey, what's up?

[Tim Pool]

I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Who are you? What do you do?

[Daniel Negreanu]

I'm a professional poker player and my name is Daniel Granu. For those that don't know, my wife and I, we do our own little fun podcast called the Mania Podcast where we shoot the. Today we had. Oops.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, you're fine.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, you know, we had a. We had a guest on today which was kind of fun. A guy who created a sort of has a theory that maybe OJ didn't do it, which I thought was fun.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, interesting.

[Daniel Negreanu]

For some stuff that I, he brought up some stuff that, you know, I went in saying this is ridiculous, but by the time I was done with it, like you are, like you do with many podcasts, I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. Up in the air now.

[Tim Pool]

Now, you know, Daniel won't say it, but depending on who you ask, he is the best poker player. He's not just a professional poker player. He's. He's the best. Fair. Fair to say simply one of the best.

[Daniel Negreanu]

One of is fair. Yeah. It's so hard in a game like that, you know, because there is luck. As you know, you play a little bit of poker, it's hard to know who the best is. And there's a lot of young guys today who work a lot harder than I do and a lot hungrier. So I, I wouldn't say I'm the best, but I'm among them.

[Tim Pool]

I would. Because what I love about poker is when you figure people out and you're. For those that don't know, Daniel's famous for all of these videos and throughout your career, just nailing people on what the cards, they like reading their mind, basically knowing the person better than they know themselves. And then it's funny when they get frustrated and give up. Not like, not even a position where they need to, but you've nailed them so well that they just give up on it. And that's my favorite part of the game. So I'm, I'm a big fan. It's glad to, glad to have you. Should be a lot of fun. We got Raymond hanging out.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What's up, guys? My name is Raymond G. Stanley, Jr. American Marine veteran. I have a baseline with a lick of laughter. I during the pre show, before we started this, it was a great conversation with Mr. Daniel. So I'm looking forward to talking about everything on the news today. It's going to be exciting.

[Phil Labonte]

Mr. Phil hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. And let's go.

[Tim Pool]

Here's a story from media to kick things off. Jimmy Kimmel breaks down over the fires and bitterly condemns Trump and his, quote, gaggle of scumbags saying firefighters aren't white enough. Well, as everybody who watches this show knows, we've never criticized firefighters for not being white enough. We've criticized them for not hiring enough firefighters because they don't want white ones, which is totally different. And I assume the gaggle of scumbags comment has to be the supporters of Donald Trump, prominent personalities who have been criticizing DEI policies. But let me play the clip for you, and I'll start by saying I can give Jimmy respect. I'm not going to rag on him for crying over the fires. I mean, maybe an adult man shouldn't be crying like this. Fine. But it is terrifying and people are losing their lives. So I can respect anybody who's emotional about this. Here's a clip.

[Elizabeth Warren]

As you know, it is very scary, very stressful, very strange week here in L. A where we work, where we live, where our kids go to school. We are back in our studio, which we had to evacuate on Wednesday. This is, that's, that's our star building right there, the El Capitan. That is how close this fire was to our theater here. Many of us had to leave our homes in a hurry. Some of our coworkers lost their homes. That's Hollywood. It's is terrible. It's been a terrible. Everyone who lives in this city knows someone, Most of us, multiple people, families, friends, colleagues, neighbors whose house is burned down. And the truth is, we don't even know if it's over. We had 100 mile per hour winds fueling this nightmare. As of tonight, the winds are back. And I think I speak for all of us when I say it has been A sickening, shocking, awful experience, but has also been in a lot of ways a beautiful experience because once again we, we see our fellow men and women coming together to support each other. People who lost their own homes were volunteering in parking lots, helping others who lost theirs. And tonight, you know, I don't want to get into all the vile and irresponsible and stupid things our alleged future president and his gaggle of scumbags chose to say during our darkest and most terrifying hour. The fact that they chose to attack our firefighters, who apparently aren't white enough to be out there risking their lives on our behalf is. It's disgusting, but it's not surprising. Instead, I want to focus on thanking those men and women.

[Tim Pool]

We got to do it. We got to call out the lies on the corporate press.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, first of all, let me say, who's his gaggle of scumbags? He's not talking about his administration because none of these people are doing press right now. He's talking about the supporters, the prominent people in media, people like us, who have rightly criticized that the LA Fire Department is understaffed. They've been complaining for years about having too many white people. Adam Carolla pointed out that as a white man, he was held back for seven years. And these policies have made it more difficult to fight these fires. Now there is other news. A new fire erupted called the auto fire. The winds are picking up. It's gonna get bad. So when I see this video and they're all laughing and cheering and clapping at lies, this has been the problem the whole time with the corporate press, the mainstream narrative. How do we solve the problem of these massive wildfires if the people who live in these areas don't actually know what we are saying, what the problem is?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know that there is a solution on the horizon for these wildfires. The people in positions of authority are just passing the buck. People like Jimmy Kimmel are blaming, you know, their political opponents or people that, that they dislike their politics for, for the, you know, being the problem. So I don't see, I don't see a solution. I don't see how, how anything gets fixed. The, the government of, of California has been a single party government for at least three decades, probably longer. I don't know when the last time they had a genuine conservative or a person of a different political opinion. And that just leads to all kinds of terrible results for the population, regardless of if it was which side it is.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

So if, hypothetically, if it was all Republicans in one state all the time for three decades. You would get the same kind of falling in line and everyone just going through the same motions all the time. Because that kind of ideological uniformity does, does nothing but breed corruption. We're getting it out of Washington right now. 4% or 5% of D.C. voted for Donald Trump as opposed to Kamala Harris. It's a terrible thing when you have uniformity of political opinion because you have people that are terrified to step out of line and say, no, this is a bad policy.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I'd play devil's advocate just a little bit on this with one issue here, because for me, it's like, about the timing a little bit. Right. The insensitivity of what happened. Right. So there has to be a moratorium to some degree of, of like horrible tragedy, horrible fire. And I fear sometimes that we all do this. We jump on narratives right away. It's like, let's just have empathy for people that are, you know, we won't be rooting for this so that we can have an I told you so moment or anything along those lines. And obviously then you look at some of the issues like, why did this happen? Right. Then you start to hold the people accountable. Maybe we're at that time where we start to look at that and the different reasons, whether, you know, there's evidence specifically the DEI was a culprit here. I don't know that you have, that. You certainly have negligence, it appears. I'm not a fire guy, so maybe, you know, an expert can say so. I know that many firemen have spoke out previously saying, like, all we need is one win, we're screwed. I'm like, if we knew that, we knew this six years ago, we know this now, like, why wasn't everything being done? Like, who pays more taxes than people in California? What are you paying for?

[Tim Pool]

I completely agree. I think the issue here is, I would agree incompetence plays a much bigger role than diversity, equity, and inclusion.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

They didn't fill the reservoirs. They didn't build new. New reservoirs. And understaffing may. May have an issue. There may be DEI involved in understaffing to a degree, but the bigger picture is general mismanagement.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

In this regard, though, Jimmy Kimmel's going on like a major late night show, one of the most prominent in the country, and misrepresenting the criticism that we have, which is largely mismanagement, and then trying to make it look like, not specifically me, but the people in this space and Donald Trump are angry that there's Too many people who aren't white as firefighters. So largely, completely agree. I'd like to focus on how can we get relief. And so shout out to Mike Cernovich and chef Andrew Gruel, who have been raising money and Jeff Gruel's been providing space and resources for people. And I'm not going to rag on the guy for crying over watching his home burn. Not at all. But I want to correct the record and say this is not our criticism. It is. It is not that we're saying people are not white. That should be called out. Yeah. He.

[Phil Labonte]

Did Kimmel lose his house? No, no.

[Tim Pool]

I'm saying, like, this is his home. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure his favorite bagel shop doesn't exist anymore.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then that's. That's fair to be upset about. These are the. You know, if. If I know people who live in the Palisades, they don't live there anymore.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I've been to parties up there. Those parties will never happen again. That scares me. I have friends who live a few miles away from where these fires are, and I'm texting and making sure they're alive. So I get. I gotta say, the dude does cry a lot. You know what I mean? Like, as an aside.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yep. He wants to make it just a typical Democrat. Wants to make it racial. No, the arts criticisms of them and their situations of not of mismanagement and getting everything wrong has nothing to do with who. Firefighters. What kind of racer firefighters they are. You're hiring. Well, it's 0%.

[Tim Pool]

It's an inversion of the criticism. Our criticism is that they prioritized race when we shouldn't.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So Jimmy's attacking us, saying we prioritize race. Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, I mean, again, I do think, though, like, what. From what I saw, just perusing social media, the issue was mainly brought up, like, when this was happening. I think a lot of maybe bad actors, if you will, were looking to score political points here. And they're like, how can we attack them in every way? How can we get. Gavin. How can we get, you know, the DEI and all this sort of stuff? There was like, again, because I don't think there's direct evidence that, you know, the fire chiefs there, the fact that they were women or people of color, like that led to it. I think, like you said, it's mismanagement as a whole. Like, I. I'd be concerned if I live there thinking, like, we know the number one threat to this area is wildfires. So why is not like literally everything being done and so many resource being spent on that rather than potentially spending it on DEI programs and other things like that.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And it's years. This is not new. This is California. And every. Feels like every couple years when they have a big forest fire or they have a big fire, it's always blaming the same thing, climate change or any other kind of bs. Well, they don't manage their fires or manage their forest. They just let it go. You.

[Tim Pool]

You can finish your thoughts.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, yeah, I was gonna. I was gonna say that is. They just let it be how it is and let it build up and let the brush build up and let it turn into a tinderbox.

[Tim Pool]

So I'll give you this. I think from a hard fact perspective to say we have definitive evidence of DI causing problems could be argued. But have you seen this video?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, yeah, I've seen this video.

[Tim Pool]

This is the video of the DEI chief. This is the DEI chief saying outright, oh, is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire. Which my response is, he got himself in the wrong place. If I have to carry my own fire. If it is.

[Daniel Negreanu]

If that is absurd.

[Tim Pool]

That's the di.

[Daniel Negreanu]

They released that. The.

[Tim Pool]

Right, but, but so, so let me just. That's the diversity chief for LAFD saying, you got yourself in the wrong place if I got to carry you out of fire instead of saying, we will do everything in our power to save your life.

[Daniel Negreanu]

The idea, I mean, obviously when it comes to dei, I'm like, about as anti. As you can get. I think the whole concept is really, really stupid and backwards. If you read. I don't know if you're familiar with Coleman Hughes.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, absolutely.

[Daniel Negreanu]

The End of Race Politics, which I thought was a great book, which sort of, you know, discussed that issue, you know, at, at. At, you know, in great depth. So, like, I could be. I mean, I'm as anti DEI as you can be. But again, like you said, there's no clear evidence that that's the reason for the fires in this.

[Tim Pool]

Right, right, right. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I like. They should have prepared better for the fires. There. There does seem to be arson at play. There's more. Another video of a person getting arrested just today. But the fire likely started from New Year's Eve revelers. That's the leading theory right now. The embers burned for several days and then kicked back up and there's been general mismanagement. So it's largely. I do think there's a political issue here. We don't need. It's not that it's a diversity issue that plays a tiny role, I'd imagine. But let's, let's. Let's go. Let's go. Full DEI criticism by playing this, this clip. Okay, I'm being. I'm being. I'm being sassy. Here you go. And so it's critically important that to the extent you can find anything that gives you an ability to be patient in this extremely dangerous and unprecedented crisis that you do. And so it's so that, of course.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Google Translate.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What is she talking about?

[Daniel Negreanu]

I mean, can you translate that into English? 0id what she said, that was a lot of nothing.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I will always give her credit for being the person who can. Who can use so many words to say so little. I have. She literally just said, please be patient. That's it. But she had to use 30 words to do it.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, I didn't even get that. Like, I need to read it like, four times and see the video. There's been. And you're right, I think she does a. And often she actually shoots herself in the foot because sometimes she'll actually have something that she's going to say, but it happens in minute three, in the first two minutes. Nobody could follow because you're like, what are you talking about? Now you're just repeating words. And then, you know, then it's easy to sort of clip that and, you know, you air that and, you know, without all the other. And it just sounds like gibberish.

[Tim Pool]

Daniel. Six more days. Less. Less than six. Less than six days, actually. I think it's like five and a half. So you excited?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Praise the Lord.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, listen, I mean, I, like, I was talking to you before here, you know, I became a US citizen in 2016 specifically to vote for your best friend, Hillary Clinton.

[Tim Pool]

We love her, don't we?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Right? Did you really? Yes, I did.

[Tim Pool]

I did throw up when he said it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, hey, I'm, you know, I'm here for, you know, pure transparency and authenticity, whatever the words are. So, you know, that was my reasoning. Right. And not a fan. My biggest fear was Trump was going to, like, lead us to nuclear war. And what I saw in four years was quite the opposite happened. There were no wars. He buddy buddied the wrong people, according to the mainstream media. But, like, in retrospect, I look at that from a strategic perspective, and I think, is that a bad thing necessarily, that, you know, the old adage of, like, keep your enemies close, keep your friends Close and your enemies closer. And what was the result of that? Sure, maybe people preyed on his ego and were like, you know, trying to nice, nice to get the better best of him. But ultimately what that led to was, you know, we had safety. And I think as a voter, if you're not prioritizing national security and avoiding nuclear war, all the other stuff seems silly in comparison. You know, like, what are your taxes? All this other mumbo jumbo. Side topics. If we have nuclear war, none of it matters.

[Tim Pool]

Less people died. With Trump negotiating with Kim Jong Un or, or Russia or whatever, we had less death. There was a build up and a fear of war with Russia and Ukraine under Obama, Trump gets in and everything starts settling down. Trump crushes isis, Trump loses to Biden, and we instantly get war, escalation, confident, crisis.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And foreign policy is like one of my principal issues. And that's why certainly I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Trump or the people around him are perfect in any way, but certainly better than what we're going to get from Kamala Harris, Joe Biden.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I think it's, it's not really controversial to say that a large reason or a large portion of the reason why countries were so aggressive during the Biden administration is because of incompetence.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Nobody felt like, like Biden was capable of actually following through on any threats. I mean, how many times did he say to Iran, don't, don't. As if that's some kind of, some kind of deterrent. Well, clearly it wasn't. You know, whereas with Donald Trump, people are like, well, maybe he's crazy enough to do something.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah. I think the perception of strength is often, you know, even just as important as actual strength. Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

So like you said, you know, Trump says there, there'll be, you know, like the world's never seen before. He uses a lot of hyperbole. He says a lot of things. We're going to invade, we're going to take Greenland, we're going to take every. He says all these things and to some degree, I think, like, you know, when you're dealing with these other dictators or world leaders, like, he seems to have, like, he's like the dictator whisperer, if you will. He speaks the language, they get him right there. You know, you have to be a little bit crazy to understand some of these people. And it appears as though, like, through his tenure, you know, he kept the bad actors at bay. And then when he was out of office, it appeared as though they saw that as an opportunity. So had Kamala won, you know, my concern from those leaders would be like, well, why would they stop now?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, people in the, in the west, in the U.S. canada and a lot of parts of Western Europe, they really do believe that the rest of the world is like the West. And I strongly disagree. Like, the rest of the world doesn't respond to niceties and politeness and things like that. They think that it's a sign of weakness. And I, I think that's, that's undeniable. And there's a lot more of the rest of the world than there is of the United States, Canada and Western Europe.

[Tim Pool]

I. Strength is one word for how they perceived Trump, but maybe mad crazy might be another word.

[Daniel Negreanu]

More.

[Phil Labonte]

Fine with me.

[Tim Pool]

Right. Because Trump, and I'm not saying this to disparage Trump, these are Trump's words that Putin and Xi feared he might actually nuke their capitals. Maybe only 5%, Trump said, but it was enough. So they back off. Hopefully we get this kind of. Trump is a madman. Deterrence.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

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[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The deal on hand right now, though, is one they've had for a while now. It's the exact same deal they had at the beginning when the Biden administration and everyone said don't do. At least on the show I was watching Breaking Points. What's going to happen? The new deal was exactly what it was a couple months ago, a year ago when Biden did not want to do anything. So it takes Trump to come into office for them to finally. For him to say Netanyahu. Netanyahu.

[Tim Pool]

Netanyahu.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the deal that was, that was a really great press conference where Trump said the gates of hell will be unleashed unless the hostages are released. And I hope that they, they, they look at the TV and they say, oh, crap, you know.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, well, I think, you know, I would look at it sort of a different way. I don't think that he, Trump, was specifically playing hardball with Netanyahu. It was more a case of he's saying, we're going to support you fully to end this war now. Yeah, like, he's right. I think there was a little bit of trepidation, you know, with, under the Biden administration, there were several, you know, measures that they were trying to put on Netanyahu saying, don't go to Rafah. Don't do this, don't do this. And, you know, Trump, you know, clearly of the two sides, was far more, you know, pro Israel side in this war. So he's going to, you know, make sure that whatever they need, they're going to get.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

But we don't know if they're giving him the west bank, if they're going to let the settlers move in. You know, we don't know the details of the actual, the small, what Trump is going to give them. We don't know yet.

[Tim Pool]

We'll see. I'm curious, though. You mentioned in 2016 you wanted to vote for Hillary.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

What was the moment for you where you were like, I can't vote for these people.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Okay. So the thing with Hillary was, and like her or not, I think she was the most knowledgeable person ever, like, the most quote, unquote prepared for understanding what goes on there. Right. She's lived her whole life in that, you know, in that avenue. For me, I think there was just a. In the last year or two, if you will, my values haven't changed, really at the core, like a classic liberal. But I feel like both sides went sort of farther away from the middle. So the question in this election is like, who's closer to the middle? And I think generally who's closer to the middle, you know, wins. And Trump's coalition that he put together with Elon Musk and RFK and Tulsi Gabbard, I mean, and Trump himself, they're all Democrats. They're all traditional. Like RFK said, I would have run as a Democrat, Tulsi ran as a Democrat. They kicked them out, they threw them to the, you know, there was sort of this elitist attitude. And there is, I find, I find, because, you know, I'm in touch with both sides, obviously, in the world that I live in. And I find there's a much more elitist attitude with those in the extreme progressive left. That if you don't agree with them 100%, you are the enemy, you know, And I don't find that, or I haven't found that with those I disagree with on the other side as much.

[Tim Pool]

And you're not deep entrenched in politics.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I imagine I relatively. So you could say, you know, I consider myself politically homeless at this point.

[Tim Pool]

But are you someone who like watches political podcasts every day and that's.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty in tune with what's going on.

[Tim Pool]

Have you always been like that? Like.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, yeah, I would say for the last, you know, yeah, I would say for the last.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know how you get to Hillary Clinton if that's, that's the case. You know what I mean?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Like, well, listen, I like Bill, right? And I thought, you know, I, I like Bill Clinton and at the time, I mean, there are a lot of the issues that are, you know, have been raised since 2016. Didn't exist back then. Right. There was no. Well, we weren't really talking about DEI programs. There wasn't the idea Internet was Internet in 2016. Was talking about DEI program. Oh, yeah, I guess I didn't see it maybe because I was on Twitter, which was, you know, was in my bubble, which didn't see those types of things.

[Tim Pool]

And I don't mean this disrespectfully, but maybe there's an age gap like the, like I'm 38, so people in my age cohort were very heavily into video games, which we saw the beginning of this whole culture war with Gamergate. There was this big upswing at the end of 2000s for all of these diversity terms. LexisNexis data shows that every news outlet just saw a massive spike in racism, white privilege, all of these things. And so the core issues for people my age at the time, they didn't care about Barack Obama drone bombs or anything like that. They were talking about why in a video game about World War I, the main character was a purple haired woman with a missing hand. Like when, you know, like, yeah, what's going on in our world? And so when Donald Trump comes in and starts speaking crass and crude. I was in Janesville, Wisconsin and I talked to a couple of young guys who are like 22 and I said, what's your, what's your key issue? And they said, political correctness. We're, we're freaked out by what the Democrats have been doing and Trump kind of just says it like it is.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, no, there's no question. I think like, you bring up a really good point there. And for me, just sort of being introduced to quote, unquote, woke ideology, right? And the first experience I had with it, I was on ESPN myself and Phil Helmuth, we were doing the break desk, and I was just. Just talking about a play, and I said, well, it's not like this guy sucks, right? The next day, I didn't think I said anything wrong. The next day the Execs @, @ ESPN said, sorry, you can't use the term sucks. And I'm like, wait a minute. I said, he doesn't suck, right? And I guess the connotation is somehow. That's homophobic in some way.

[Tim Pool]

No way.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, and.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Because, you know, is that what. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's where it comes from.

[Tim Pool]

Really.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I didn't even know that when it's like, oh, he sucks something, okay? So the next day I go in and there was a woman on set or whatever, and I was tired, whatever, so I just said something like, oh, you know what? Got a long day. I just got a man up, and I was told that that was insensitive and I was using gendered language. And I didn't understand what she meant. You know, like. Like I just said, man, I'm. I got him. I got a man up because I'm, you know, and she felt that was gender. So that was my first sort of introduction into it. And then I sort of saw that sort of avenue towards all these little microaggressions and really creating the divide, making it to the point where you walk around in eggshells with everything you say, you might say the wrong thing and no tolerance at all. Like I asked this woman, I said, listen, the guy who's 75 years old, he lives in Texas, he says to the waitresses, hey, honey, can I get some more of that? Are you going to call him a sexist, you know, all these types of things?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, they will.

[Daniel Negreanu]

She's like. She said, yes.

[Phil Labonte]

And I was like, on the Internet.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, don't you think it's worthwhile to explain to him? He's like, I don't want to do the teaching. He has to do the work on his own. Like that. There's like, you know, you're. You're making somebody evil for doing something that he's been doing 70 years of his life with no ill intent. And I think that's where they really missed the boat. What is his intention when he says, hey, honey, can you bring me another coffee? Was there anything demeaning about what he said, maybe you could argue that it's the language we shouldn't use. I'm all for. Let's talk about it. Right? Let's have the conversation.

[Tim Pool]

Have you. Have you ever told that ESPN story before? Is that like.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. I did not know that. First of all, I didn't even know that's the origin of the word sucks.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yes, I didn't know that either until I was married for the first time.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, on the Simpsons, there's that famous joke where Bart says, I didn't think it was possible, but this both blows and sucks at the same time.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, right.

[Tim Pool]

And as a kid, I didn't. No, I. I just thought, yeah, that blood.

[Daniel Negreanu]

But they were like, skull. It was almost like this weird face they made to me, too. I was like. Like, I really was like. Like, I thought I did a good job on the break desk. I was proud of it, you know, And I was like, why not? I said, he doesn't suck.

[Tim Pool]

So, like, you're commenting on a poker game.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah. So, you know, it was the World Series of Poker final table. And then, you know, on. While they're on break, we go and discuss the plays and stuff. So I was talking about a play and he said, it's not like he sucks. And I thought, okay, maybe they don't want me to say that the players suck. You don't want to demean them, that's fine. But I said, he doesn't suck. And they said, no, you just can't use terms suck. And I just didn't understand why.

[Tim Pool]

And what year was it?

[Daniel Negreanu]

I think it was 2017, 18. I think it was, like it was before the peak, but it for me was the early onset of sort of this ideology that, you know, I was always sort of anti political correctness my whole life because I think it's silly. I grew up in a multicultural world where we all made fun of each other. We told jokes about each other you're not allowed to do today. Like, if Phil Ivey, who's a friend of mine, and I are on a golf course, you know, and you heard the conversation, we'd both be canceled.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. So I grew up much the same way with a bunch of my friends of all different racial backgrounds. And one of our friends referred to each and every one of us by our racial slur. And we all thought it was funny. Nobody was mad, nobody was offended, nobody was insulted.

[Daniel Negreanu]

We were bonding almost.

[Tim Pool]

We were trying to be like George Carlin. We looked up to these liberal guys.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, we, we always found humor to be a way that we bond, you know, and it became such a faux pas. Like, you know, you think of Don Rickles era, which maybe was a little extreme, you know, with the stereotypes, if you will. But, you know, I've always felt like when we celebrate our difference and we laugh about them, we actually grow closer.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Then this idea, and this is where the DEI programs and this training and these trainings which have proven to actually increase.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Racist ideas. Right. When you constantly talk about this stuff and you introduce it to children who used to play with their friends who were black, brown and whatever, and they're just their friends, but now. No, no, that's not just your friend, that's your black friend.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

And that's different. Right. So when you introduce that, you create these divides that didn't necessarily need to exist in the first place.

[Tim Pool]

Let's, let's, let's wheel it back into the modern political space. We have this story from Yahoo. Biden announces one time $770 payment for LA wildfire victims.

[Phil Labonte]

Everything's all better now.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. Case closed.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, this is from. Well, when the last tragedy happened, it was 700, so they've upped it. But during the campaign, I remember when she said that, when she said 700, I thought to myself, if I was the strategic strategist here, I'd be like, say you're going to give them financial aid. Don't say 700 because it sounds offensive. Why does it sound offensive? Because it's offensive. People just lost everything. You're like, don't worry, we gotcha. Here's 700. Now it's 770. How many people look at that? And also, by the way, you don't just get the 700. You got to apply. We got to make sure that you're good for it. And not everyone did. So I, again, if I was the PR manager, I would have been like, don't say 700, because that's not a sexy number.

[Tim Pool]

You better off saying nothing.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I mean, 770 isn't much more sexy.

[Tim Pool]

There is a serious challenge, though. I mean, how would the government be able to compensate everybody what they'd actually need?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, here's the thing. Like in California, specifically, part of, we don't have poker tournaments in California anymore. Not big ones anymore because of the taxes. Nobody could win because the state tax is an extra 7 or 8%. So the question is like, if I live there and I would be asking the question, why am I paying so many, so much tax here. Like what do I get extra that I wouldn't get in another state? What is that? Do I get safety? Do I get, we have one national disaster that's prominent in this area. Do we have resources and money? Is that money going to that or what is it? What is the money going to? Right, and that's where I would be upset.

[Tim Pool]

We, we here don't do any business with California at all. The, the regulations, the laws are cumbersome, offensive. So like we've had people who want to work remote, some, some people we have here who work remote for one reason or another. And you know, in Pennsylvania it's totally fine. You're not that far away, you can drive when you need to. We can fly you in Wisconsin, no big deal. California, sorry, can't help you. The taxes, the regulations. Like we had one instance where I, I, I think we, we do zero business with California for this reason. And California still tried coming after us for some reason, like sending a letter to one of our other addresses claiming about some like money owed. For some reason I just like laughed and threw it away. I'm like, yeah, nice try dude. I view the state as regressive and, and oppressive. They, when we look at the wildfires right now, you know the point you bring up about where the tax money is going, clearly it's not being managed properly. But I believe California has the highest taxes in the country.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I believe so, yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

When I was in the car business it was 8.25 like back in 2006. Like that's, that's huge.

[Tim Pool]

New York City I believe is the highest taxed place to live.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The city.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Because you have city tax, state tax and.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, but California I think is the highest income tax. So the question then for all you guys is for everybody, I mean like, you know, rhetorically, what are they doing with all that money?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, that's, I mean I do know a lot of people that have left California and they seem to be one of the, I think it was five years running I saw a stat. They're one of the top five states that people are leaving and going to Austin, Texas, they're coming to Las Vegas and Boise.

[Phil Labonte]

Southern California is friggin awesome. Like the weather, like last February I was there, it was, I'm in Lakewood and it's beautiful. I'm walking around in shorts and you look over to the mountains and they're snow capped and I, I don't ski, but I, I know you can go and ski during the day and Come home, and then if you want, you can go to the beach on this in the same day. It is awesome. And that's why the government has the ability to behave in such absolutely horrible ways. If it wasn't gorgeous and wonderful, you wouldn't have a government that treats its citizens like such garbage. And as is so absolutely awful to the taxpayer.

[Tim Pool]

I guess I go back to the 770 payment and the question is, like.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It'S not like half of a rent or a third of a rent for.

[Tim Pool]

These, but should the federal government give everybody 10 grand? Even 10 grand's not going to cover the loss of your entire life. You know what I mean?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah. I don't know the number.

[Tim Pool]

It's better than 770, right?

[Daniel Negreanu]

It just doesn't. This feels like not even a Band aid, but like the tip of a band aid without any of the pad. Yeah, this is like the glue.

[Tim Pool]

A month's worth of like, not even a month. Like two weeks of groceries.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, if that.

[Tim Pool]

Good luck. You got nowhere to live.

[Daniel Negreanu]

But I mean, if any state would be the state that gives more, it should be California, because the people there are paying more to live there.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it is Biden. Right. So I don't know. Right.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The state is doing anything.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Good point.

[Tim Pool]

I'll say this, man. I have no. How many, how many people have been displaced? 200,000. Let me see if I can do some quick math and see how much we can get these guys. We'll get them something good. Let's do this.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, what, do we just send a couple billions or a couple hundred millions to Ukraine? Again, like, I'd rather pay my taxes and then give it to those nice folks who had their homes burned.

[Tim Pool]

We should be over. Is this math wrong?

[Phil Labonte]

175, 000 people is what they've said have been displaced in LA.

[Tim Pool]

So, so, okay, let me, let me do this. I think I got the numbers wrong because ChatGPT's math basically says if we stopped funding Ukraine, we could give everybody a million bucks who's been affected by the fires. So how much? Let's, let's, let's get the hard numbers on this one. I, I think my numbers are right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with the low end. Let's just go with the low end. Let's do this. Here's how much. If we, not. If we don't fund Ukraine, the federal government could give $380,000 to each individual evacuated over this disaster. That's. That's not Even the people who've lost their homes. There's been 12,000 structure collapses. So with 175,000 people evacuated, we say no money for war in Ukraine. 380k for the American citizens. What say you guys? How do you feel about. I love it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

First should go to the folks of North Carolina. I mean I want to take care of.

[Tim Pool]

That's true.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I don't know priority wise.

[Tim Pool]

All right, so Israel's money can go to.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes, there we go.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

The people that will, the people that have have are still dealing with the, the stuff that happened in North Carolina that was months and months and months ago. So they should get priority over the people in California just because they've been dealing with the, with the disaster longer. You know, get those people made whole as, or as much as you can possibly and then move on to, to California. Because in California it's not done happening.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And it's warm there. You find you live on the fricking streets. But North Carolina, you're freezing, you're.

[Phil Labonte]

And yeah like they were saying that the tomorrow's gonna today and Tomorrow is like 100 mile an hour winds again. So I, I don't haven't looked at what's going on currently but if the winds are that strong it's it they're not, you know, they're gonna, they're not gonna be able to, to advance containment. It's going to be just a matter of trying to stay, you know, trying to stay where it is, never mind actually making progress.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Are we still at 10%?

[Tim Pool]

I haven't, I think it's, I think it's between 14 and 70% contained.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

But with the winds kicking up, it's starting to spread again and now there, there is another one on. The auto fire has burned 56 acres.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Not Ventura?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, out in Ventura. And it's crazy because I saw an early report that they contained it but now it's looking like it's not contained at all. And Fox said 0%.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Why are they calling this the auto fire?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Probably maybe auto auto dealerships in that whole area. Oxnard, Ventura.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, is that it?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Maybe because that's what my whole, you know my 20s was in car dealerships so in that area.

[Tim Pool]

Man, this stuff just keeps freaking me out because I, I, I, I didn't grow up in this area or anything like that. I only lived there for a couple years. But for like industry wise with skateboarding, especially in music, I know a lot and TV and I know a lot of A lot of people over here. So this is. We got, we got a. I don't even know what's going on over here. Cluster of fires at a golf club. Let me, let me, let me pull this up. It's. It's crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, that's a lot of fun.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Some seem so. I mean, I've saw videos of like fires just being started.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. These arsonists.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Random. Like, what is happening with that? Like that. What is that about?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Just today, ghost of water people showed one up.

[Tim Pool]

Some people want to watch the world burn.

[Daniel Negreanu]

That's what I'm thinking. I'm wondering, like, what is the incentive is this like climate activists that want to prove climate change is real going, watch, I'll burn this whole place down.

[Phil Labonte]

I think there's a psychos, there's a lot of homeless people and homeless people and mentally ill people is almost a circle Venn diagram. Like there are so many people that have mental illness. You get a lot of people that have mental illness and they're just like, well, I can do it too.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I would not be surprised if at least one of these guys or some element were, were far left progressive or far left extremists. Because many of these people, their view of revolution is we have to destroy the system by any means necessary to start a new one. So when I watch a video of a guy. We got. Take a look at this video, this guy is literally starting a tree on fire. Why? Why did he do that? Why did he. Why did he. That's crazy.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, this is the video. At least one of the videos David.

[Tim Pool]

Harris Jr. Just posted this. This guy, for no reason, the white dude tried starting a massive fire, burning a tree.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I think people are angry. Right? People are angry for a lot of different reasons. Right. So sometimes people want to just literally burn it all down. Well, there's already fires, so they get the opportunity to just be like, oh, no, it's fire. You know, and they get to like a lot of angry, like you said, people that are mentally unstable. You know, a lot of people that went through the whole period of isolation and the, you know, the mental health issues, we, you know, a lot of people suffered from that. The sort of divisive nature of the political climate, social media. Like people get radicalized, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

And so if you, you radicalize whichever way, like it's, you know, it's a hop step and a jump towards just burn it all down.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's trendy now for these folks.

[Tim Pool]

Well, when, when we heard the insurance companies pulled out of California and started canceling these, these, these policies. The first question we have is like, why would they do that?

[Daniel Negreanu]

That's a, that's a strategic decision based on information. Like when insurance companies do this, they're like, okay, we make a lot of money doing this. Oh, no, no, no, we're not going to make any money. Why? What do you seek for? What do you foresee coming? Right? And there's like, I mean I, people have predicted, was it six months before there was a fireman who said like, it's as simple as, like, if we have a bad wind, it's going to all burn down. We can't do anything about it, we can't stop it. So like, I don't, you don't blame the firefighters themselves. They, they're literally risking their lives for it. They don't have the resources.

[Tim Pool]

But what was the reaction from far leftists when the news broke about the insurance companies? They started posting a series of memes of people speed dialing Luigi Mangione.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh.

[Phil Labonte]

Which of course is insane because in both cases it's the government that's actually at fault. The reason that the, the insurance companies pulled out of California was because the government said that they couldn't raise the prices on insurance. So the insurance company said, we're going to lose our butt if something like what is happening now happens. And the reason they didn't raise the prices is because the government said you can't. And then when it comes to like the whole thing with Luigi, like the reason that health insurance is so expensive and there is because there's no market and because the government is involved in health care. Both of these issues are actually because of government manipulating the markets and not having an open market that can actually make decisions based on the realities on the ground. But yet they're blaming the corporations because they're idiots.

[Tim Pool]

Or we can blame climate change, which. Pull up this clip. We got Tim Cass news citing the stream from Hasan and he's talking with Bernie Sanders. I will just let them describe it, but basically you're a moron if you don't believe the wildfires were the result of climate change, meaning the likes of.

[Phil Labonte]

DEI or whatever the new Republican thing.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Is on any given basis is simply.

[Phil Labonte]

A misdirection away from.

[Daniel Negreanu]

The actual reasons.

[Phil Labonte]

As to why anthropogenic climate change is.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Accelerating these extreme weather events. It makes me furious. It really does. Presumably what's going on in LA is all because you have a Democratic governor, a Democratic mayor, but then they're going to have to explain why we've had all this terrible flooding and other disasters in very red states all across this country.

[Tim Pool]

You got to be a moron not.

[Daniel Negreanu]

To understand that climate change does not give a damn whether you're a Democrat or a Republican. It is real.

[Phil Labonte]

They had record rainfall earlier this year.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Simply an attempt deflate attention. Much needed attention.

[Tim Pool]

Can I just pause to point out there's a giant red fist in Bernie's office.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's a communist. Yeah, straight up communist symbol.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, right. That for people to understand the red salute, the red fist is akin to the Roman salute, which was used by the Nazis. For whatever reason, schools just don't demonize the communists the same way the society. I mean, I know I would demonize Nazis. I think we should also rightly demonize communists. But sure, whatever.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Why? Climate change is causing devastating problems in L. A throughout our country. My small state of Vermont in the last number of years has been hit time and again. Floods which have wreaked havoc for hundreds and hundreds of homeowners, small business people, our state capital.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sorry, I got to stop him. You know what these, you know, this is, these are guys standing on the side of the road holding a sign saying the end is nigh. Give me 10 bucks.

[Phil Labonte]

It's idiots.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I think the thing about climate change, right, so the theory is that the climate's changing, right? When in history is the climate, like, never? Doesn't that, isn't that just normal? Like the climate does change? The question really is, is it stuff that we're doing right? And I don't know that the science is, you know, I think that there is some science that suggests, you know, maybe we're playing a role. But like, whether we play a role or not, the climate's always going to change. There'll be floods, there'll be wins, there'll be, you know, all sorts of shifts.

[Phil Labonte]

You're exactly right. And I want to. Want to make a point that I continue to make regularly on the show. If there is man made climate change, it is because of China and India. Well, both of which have 1.5.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I think the point you make too, in addition to that, sorry to interrupt you, but is that, you know, even if we did everything right, we recycled everything, we did everything in the US it's irrelevant because if, you know, large areas like China and India are burning coal or whatever the case may be, they're not. They don't stop. Then it's really useless. It doesn't do anything. You know, 100.

[Phil Labonte]

And these, these, both of those countries Have a massive, massive population of very, very poor people. Right. Like, even though they don't have time.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Or luxury to worry about.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly that stuff. Exactly. You know, when you have people that are that poor that are literally burning, like, animal waste, burning dung to heat their homes and stuff, you can't look at the American people who have made progress in clean energy and changing their lifestyles. And people change their light bulbs so they're not using incandescent anymore, and they're using LEDs and all these small things that millions and millions and millions and millions of Americans have done on their own, without the government saying, you have to. On their own to make changes, because they do believe that it's important to at least contribute and help. You can't look at them and say, you people are idiots. You people are morons. It's absolutely counterproductive.

[Tim Pool]

I can very easily, logically debunk our good friend Bernie Sanders and Hassan over here. You see, the point they're trying to make is that it's not DEI or Democrat mayors or governors. Climate change is real. Now, let's try some logic. Which political party has been telling us we must engage in mitigation practices to deal with climate change?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Republicans.

[Tim Pool]

No, it wasn't Republicans. You lose. Minus 500 points. In fact, it is Democrats. Which state has a Democrat supermajority? Many, but California. So the question then becomes, if Democrats know climate change is a problem and Democrats have advocated for climate change mitigation, and then you have a Democrat governor and mayor, and they don't mitigate the problem they tell us is coming, is it the fault of those politicians? Yes. Thank you, Bernie. Have a nice day.

[Phil Labonte]

It's true.

[Daniel Negreanu]

And, yeah, I think ultimately, the idea of climate change, if it's dependent upon you and me making sure that we recycle, we're screwed. Like, oh, really? Like, you cannot depend on how many billion people are on this earth to all do the right thing. And if that's. If it's dependent. It's like when you used to be going to airplane and they'd be like, oh, you got to turn your cell phone off, or what? Like, you really think that my cell phone. If this is going to bring down the plane, we got bigger problems than that. Right. So I think, like, at a micro level, micro level, it's theater. You know, it's this idea that we're doing the little things to, you know, make a difference, but in reality, it makes very little. Like, if you recycle plastic, like, 99% of it doesn't get recycled.

[Tim Pool]

Anyway, I think when you spend enough time at a poker table and you get angled so often, you just don't trust people anymore.

[Daniel Negreanu]

You learn. You learn to be. Yeah, you learn to not trust.

[Tim Pool]

I guess when that guy accidentally throws in 100, goes, oh, no, I meant to do 20. Oh, geez, look at me. You're like, these people are not gentlemen. You cannot trust them.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And you got to be a moron like Bernie Sanders and Hassan Piker to conflate DEI with the response and the preparedness. Preparedness and the response to what is going to happen in the state.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. DEI has nothing to do.

[Phil Labonte]

Good, good.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I'm done.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, DEI is a great excuse and it's, it's a, A buzzword nowadays, but it really is just incompetence. You know, the, the people that are put in positions that were supposed to, you know, they were supposed to do.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I don't think it matters who you had there, because they didn't have the resources. Like, I don't think that anyone in that fire department was, like, not going to do their absolute best, whatever that is. And it wasn't the personnel or the people themselves. It's the question of, like, you know, why aren't they? And as simple. Because there are other parts of the world that have similar climates to California, but they don't have these problems. Well, I mean, and part of the problems, you sort of touched on it earlier, was just like, really taking care of the forest.

[Phil Labonte]

You could, I guess. Apparently there's a boatload of eucalyptus growing everywhere, and it takes a long time for that. I've heard that meme. I don't know if it's actually true, but the story goes that there's a boatload of eucalyptus and it takes a long time to. To mature, 100 years to mature. And the, the oils that it secretes is super flammable. And so you've got California full of eucalyptus with this oil that it's. That secretes and they don't clean up the forest floor. So, like, literally everything that could go.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Wrong got laughed at for saying that. Yeah. A while back. Of course, in a lot of things he says he gets from experts and they make sense to him. So then he just sort of regurgitates it in his own way. Right. And maybe simplifies it in the sense of saying, like, shouldn't you just clean up the forest? And people laughed like, yeah, I'm sure it's as simple as brewing up. But like, he's right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you right.

[Daniel Negreanu]

This is really One way to mitigate, like, the damage done is by not having, like, the area be a powder keg.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

We've done here, we've done it. Properties in this and.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, we have. We have to rake.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes, you have.

[Tim Pool]

You have to rake.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah. By law, like. Yeah, those are laws that, you know, you have to be compliant. Right.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta. I gotta pull up this story for you, Daniel. Delays and a lack of resources, they say this is. This was reported yesterday. New York Post, Louisiana. Firefighters took 45 minutes to respond to the Palisades Blade Palisades blaze. And by that point, it was too late.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Why so long with this?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. I. 45 minutes is a very long time.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it's rough to hear. I'm sorry. Like, guys, 45 minutes is a long time. If a report came in that a wildfire started, dispatch the chopper.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I guess everything.

[Tim Pool]

Well, to be fair. To be fair, on the chopper point, it was too windy to do so, but taking 40 minutes to respond, I'm.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Like, and you're in Cali.

[Tim Pool]

And, you know, I'm not ragged on the firefighters. I'm ragging on whatever their resources were or the management or whatever the issue was, they were unable.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, yeah. Nothing to do with the firefighters. God bless them. They're doing their job the best they can. It's their management and their leaders who are.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, the firefighters, they mean, many of them say it's like, we had no chance.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

We were like, Mother Nature just owned us. There was nothing we could do. And I believe that because. But I believe that. But I believe that's part and parcel because they weren't prepared. So why weren't they prepared is the key question.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

I have a friend that used to do. I forget what the name of the job is, but he's a firefighter that would jump out of airplanes to go and fight, like, wildfires, like, way off in the woods and stuff. And he was saying, look, man, the. If those winds are going to kick up like this 100 miles an hour, even God isn't putting that fire. He's like, there's nothing. Because I said to him, I was like, yo, bro, you need to get down to la. And he's like, man, he's like, even if I went down there, there's nothing that can be done. He's like, the wind is just too much. Even, you know, you're not putting these fires out, people.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Smoke jumper, by the way.

[Phil Labonte]

Smoke jumper. That's what it is.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Also like, what about homes? Like, I mean, these homes that all burn down, like, if you use concrete, they don't burn down, right? I. I don't live in an area like that. You maybe have to say, like, okay, if you want to live in this area, you must build this type of home there.

[Tim Pool]

There was a video of metal on fire in the. In the wildfires, and I was. It was metal frame burning, and I was just like, I. I think maybe when it gets too hot, a lot more burns than you realize. But I. You know, honestly, I. I don't know that I know enough to answer definitively whether or not, because what I will say is I've seen seemingly metal skyscrapers on fire. And obviously, if you build the house out of wood, it's gonna burn, you know, if it ends up happening. But I do think that a lot of materials we use, be it insulation or otherwise, things we have to use, carpeting and other things are gonna catch on fire.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Have you seen what they do in Japan? Okay, this is crazy, but in Japan, on their roofs, built into the houses, they have this thing where if a fire happens, the roof opens up and fire and sprinklers just fire off. And they, like, protect all the home stuff. Japan just does it.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, Japan is so great. I have babies, but they're.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

They're doing all right.

[Phil Labonte]

I've been to Japan a bunch of times. I love it.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I live in an age of, like, technology where we have cars that drive itself. You know, we have all these types of things like, how are we so far behind on issues that, you know, are.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, bro. No. I pulled the video up.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I told you.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this video.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Unbelievable.

[Tim Pool]

Check this out, guys.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Is that what you saw?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, this is what I saw. Look at this.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, shoot.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, it's so.

[Phil Labonte]

It's actually.

[Tim Pool]

It's. They're.

[Phil Labonte]

They're like little sheds outside. Okay.

[Daniel Negreanu]

You could do this to your pool or whatever.

[Tim Pool]

It's. It's little fire press, fire suppression sheds. Like, is it Right.

[Phil Labonte]

That's so cool.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I mean, that's preparation.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know. You know what I was thinking about.

[Phil Labonte]

Japan was like, I remember war two. That's not happening again.

[Tim Pool]

I saw a picture of a pool.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Everything's burned around it. And I'm like, what if you have your own. Of your own volition, built a PVC pipe that went up and ran? Not attached, don't need a permit, ran along the roof of your building with sprinklers, and then you just. You can run the pipe right into your pool and Something like this.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

There are people. I mean, if you look this one up, I'm pretty sure people were talking about getting one of those pumps that connect to your pool because you literally have whatever it is, 50, 60 gallons of water you could use immediately. It's right there.

[Tim Pool]

Thousand or whatever it is.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I don't know. I'm really bad with numbers.

[Phil Labonte]

Why is that? I will say.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you guys use metric up there.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, it's true.

[Phil Labonte]

So Galat a gallon in California. I'm not so sure what they would do if that's, if that would be even be legal. Because if you catch rainwater and you put it into a tank, they'll. They'll throw you in jail over that.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but my point is.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Can't be real.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

100%.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Catching rainwater is illegal. And in a lot of urban places. Yeah, illegal. Why?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, you're taking away from the water that goes back into the, into the water table.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. There are other more technical reasons because I remember we had this issue with, in Jersey, we. I was talking to someone about it and they said it's not just that you're taking the water away, it's. It's something else. It's something like the combined retention of water by that, by a certain amount of people can actually create a catastrophic, like, release of water or something like that. So it's basically. They're like, no one cares about one person doing it. They care if literally everybody retained, you know, 3,000 gallons of water all at once or something. But I'm saying build a PVC system that's just literally pipes you don't attach, you never do anything with. You've never taken any action. If a wildfire starts, you just attach the pipes and turn the sprinkles on above your house to try and prevent the fire.

[Daniel Negreanu]

This is the type of stuff that if, like, I'm the government and I know the highest risk of safety, and like you said, it happened six years ago, then this is what I'm going to spend all my resources on, is to make sure all these homes have that or have some sort of access to water in, you know, in a case of emergency like this. Because you know this is going to happen again. Right. So what are we going to do for the next one? We should have been thinking about that after the last one.

[Tim Pool]

This is actually a crazy thing when you think about, I mean, all of these houses had plumbing. All of these houses have access to water. And I'm just like, what if you decentralized firefighting and every house had just like three sprinklers on the roofs that the fire, like when the fire breaks, every house just sprays itself with a little bit of water that stops the flow in key areas and the fire doesn't burn other areas. The amount of water you'd need is minimal.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, there's people a lot smarter than all of us in this room that can probably figure out technology that would make a huge difference. Like, like I said, I mean we have self driving cars now. Like how do we not have a better way to protect us from the most basic element, which is fire?

[Phil Labonte]

And self driving cars are common now. Like Tesla's like one of the highest number. Like they sell more.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Cybertruck would burn.

[Tim Pool]

No. Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It'S good for bombs and explosions.

[Tim Pool]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's time. Let's talk about this story from Reuters.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Nice.

[Tim Pool]

Trump says he will create the External Revenue Service to collect revenue from foreign sources. Now, I'm torn on this because I like the idea of America getting paid what it's what, what is due. But he's creating another irs. I don't know if I want to be.

[Daniel Negreanu]

This seems like a troll to me.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Like this is just like, this is funny. Like how do you have any jurisdiction over other countries? Obviously, you know, you have tariffs and all these things, but you're like you're going to go after other countries and say you owe us tax money.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, I guess it wouldn't be the same as the irs. Like you don't dispatch guys with guns, although the US does.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's what we have.

[Tim Pool]

Right. I think it's. If the Internal Revenue Service would, what it would do realistically, keep records and logs of debts and then use that as leverage and trade.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Can they make those buying US Submarines.

[Tim Pool]

Now because of the trade deficit, can.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

They make sure that they pay their fair share? I mean, I hate the word fair share. Apologies for like NATO and all these other.

[Tim Pool]

That's the plan, right? Tariffs and trade deals and things like this. I like the tariffs. I do. I'm curious your thoughts though, the whole tariff situation with Trump.

[Daniel Negreanu]

And I think tariffs are a weapon you can use to level the playing field. It's just a negotiating tactic, if you will. Essentially what it comes down to. In some cases, tariffs can hurt both you and the people that you've applied tariffs to, obviously. Right. In other cases it can be enough to go, okay, okay, okay, okay, I hear you. Right. So I think a lot of what he does is a little bit blow hard, like he throws things out there, talks a big game, likes to get you riled up, you know, and he does. Like, this is something that gets people riled up, the whole Canada thing. Like, do we really think he's trying to make Canada the 51st state, or was he just mocking Trudeau? Right. He's mocking.

[Tim Pool]

Insulting the guy.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Like, Elon's tweet kills me when he says, Trudeau said that'll never happen. He goes, girl, you ain't even governor of Canada anymore. Like, I think that he says a lot of things that he knows well.

[Phil Labonte]

He's.

[Daniel Negreanu]

He's a master at one thing. Right. Controlling the narrative.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

You know, that's one thing I noticed over whatever the eight, 10 years is, whatever he says on Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it, that's what the narrative becomes. So if there's something bad for him, he says something crazy, and they'll just talk about that for three, four days, and then you have all these things. So when you ask somebody, you know, why do you hate Trump? They get to the point where, like, they don't know where to start because they forgot the 17 other things that were in the. In the news the other day.

[Tim Pool]

It's a really good point, because Trump creates stories that are flashes in the pan.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So someone might say to themselves, trump wants to create another tax revenue generation department. The IRS was bad enough. This guy's nuts. It never happens. The story vanishes.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Exactly right.

[Tim Pool]

And then six months later, like, I don't like the guy. Why? I don't know why. Because there is no internal External Revenue Service. It never happened.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Because you sense it. You sensationalize every tweet. Like, CNN's entire program was like. I remember it was like Don Lemon every single night. And the whole show was. Trump tweeted this. Can you believe it? I'm like, yes. He tweets this stuff all the time. Why is this news to you? This is not that big a deal, but you allow it to be. And like you said, you know, he can just change the narrative whenever he wants because they bite. And they. They profit from it, too. Like, they want him to. You know, they. They make a lot of money because people tune in to hear them rag on Trump. I think less so now than ever because of, you know, the evolution of media and legacy media sort of fading.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So in our first time, we're talking about Jimmy Kimmel. I actually checked. What do you guys think? Jimmy Kimmel's ratings are in the key demo. Oh, he's got.

[Phil Labonte]

I Imagine they're bad.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Give me a number, as in thousands. I'm gonna go 84, 000.

[Tim Pool]

What do you think key demographic ratings for Jimmy Kimmel? This big show per day.

[Daniel Negreanu]

84, like, yeah, 240, 000.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, I think it's probably around 200, 000.

[Tim Pool]

It is 221,000.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Okay, pretty good guess.

[Phil Labonte]

We get better.

[Tim Pool]

We get better ratings than Jimmy Kimmel does. Yeah, that's crazy to me. But, yeah, legacy media is dead. And largely why these things don't face people anymore is because people are watching shows like this, which we understand humor. If Trump makes a joke, we don't scream. Trump seriously wants to kick dogs. We're like, oh, he was making reference to snl. You know, we, we don't take it so seriously.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Or even if Biden or someone on their, on their team says something, you know, that's supposed to be funny, we're not going to cry about it off, you know, whine about it right off the bat.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I'd say the thing that upset me that, that woke me up, if you will, and upset me the most is you have plenty of stuff that you could criticize Trump for. You got, you got a laundry list of stuff throughout his history, you know, in real estate and all these types of things. Why do you spend so much time twisting something that isn't true, make it look true to make them look bad? Like, yeah, for me, I never, I was believer that he said, you know, Nazis are fine people, okay? And I believe that for a very long time, embarrassed to say so. Then someone says, did you watch the video? I said, yeah. No, the whole video? Oh, I never saw the whole video. It was never on my, you know, my news channels. Then I watched it and he said, wait a minute. Literally after he says that, he says, I'm not talking about white supremacists or neonothsis. And I'm like, well, what else am I? What else has he done? Then the bloodbath thing, he's talking about the auto industry, clearly a financial term, bloodbath. And they twist that into saying that, you know, there's going to be civil unrest. So, like, when you do that, you lose the people. You lose people like me in trusting your narratives and what you say when you say that. Well, when Trump's assassination attempt, you know, on cnn, says Trump fell at a rally, like, as though he's old age. He just fell as, you know, it's like, yeah, why do you. Why? I mean, again, I get why they do it. Clickbait titles work and this is sort of the, the industry.

[Phil Labonte]

Do you really think that it. Well, I feel like maybe, maybe there are some people that do it for clickbait, but I really, really feel that there are people that want to do everything they can to discredit him because they just hate him.

[Daniel Negreanu]

With such a. Yeah, there combination of both for sure. You know, twisting the narrative does like with clickbait titles works because more people see it. But you're also painting him. Yeah, he painted, they painted a picture that like I said, I for many years believe that he said that about, you know, Neo. Yeah, I did not know that until I actually watched the video. And there's a lot of things I think, you know, with Elon taking over X and you know, sort of opening that up with the algorithm and community notes now when somebody puts something out that's untrue.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Maybe not right away you don't see it, but you see it soon enough where you're like, oh, okay. Because I've seen things on X sometimes where I'm like, this, this can't be real, is it? And then the next day I see the same thing and it's got a community note saying it isn't.

[Tim Pool]

When you finally watch that video, how soon did you find yourself an encounter with another believer that you were trying to convince?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, I remember showing it to my wife. Right. Because she'd never seen it either. And you know, she, she's obviously, you know, been a liberal minded person her whole life and when she saw it, you know, at first it's like you have to listen to it twice because you're like, wait a minute. No, no, no, no, no. They really did. Every single media outlet for all these years and continued this. I was very disappointed, frankly, when Obama on the campaign trail was repeating that same fight. I was so disappointed. That's, I thought, like, man, you, I mean, are you, I think at that point he's like, we've lost, we're going to lose. So I'm going to throw everything at the kitchen sink to try to win this.

[Phil Labonte]

That's a really, that's a really common thing that I hear from people that, that you know, are former progressives or whatever you want to say. There's this guy on this podcast called the all in podcast.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I know all these guys chamat said.

[Phil Labonte]

The same thing and he was like, you know, he's like, I couldn't believe that Barack Obama was repeating this absolute bald face lie. And it's, it's true, it is rather shocking. To that something that is such a blatant, oh, just above the board lie, you know, was, was, was repeated and repeated as if it was true. Even the current, you know, even, even the old man, Joe Biden said, well, the reason that I ran was because Donald Trump said this. It's like he didn't even say that.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, for so many years the credibility went unchecked. Right. If the news said this, this is what it is. There was no way to find out whether or not that was true or not. You just got what you were told. But now, obviously, with the resources we have and like, you know, platforms like yours and others who can dissect and question everything, you know, in an authentic way. And again, sometimes you're going to get stuff wrong. Right, but at least you're having the conversation. You're not just assuming that, well, they can't twist the way that they did before. And I think there's sort of an anger from legacy media about the idea that their grasp and their hold on the narrative has slipped away.

[Tim Pool]

I mean that, that goes back to the Jimmy Kimmel thing in the beginning where the criticism of California's largely failed policy and policy that contributed to it, understaffing of which diversity, equity, inclusion things played a role. And then Jimmy Kimmel plays the game of the firefighters aren't white enough. That's always been, you're racist and you're far right instead of actually addressing the concerns, which is a weird position for so many people like you saying you're a liberal minded guy, but they're going to call you far right.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, I got, I get both. You know, I finally realized like I was in the right place when I start getting called both a libtard and a far right wing extremist. How can I get both? But I'm like, oh, you know what, if I'm both, then I'm exactly where I want to be. Because I don't believe it's as simple as left and right. I kind of hate the terms. I think it's stupid because how many people actually agree whole. If you agree wholeheartedly with everything on the left or everything on the right, you're not make, you're not doing any critical thinking of your own. It's impossible, it is not possible to think that what, what, whatever you're spoon fed. Oh, where did, well, you know, where did it come from a lab or did it come from whatever? Yeah, bet. So whatever. You know, if you believe 100 of each side, then you're not really doing any Critical thinking. So there are some things on both sides that I agree with or disagree.

[Tim Pool]

With, but I, but I do think there's, there's tendencies. So, you know, I'm, I'm a probably liberal minded guy. We probably agree on a lot of things and I find myself in the conservative camp not because of my political positions, but because of what I think is true. So for instance, Matt Taibbi does this great report on the Burisma scandal in Ukraine and Joe Biden and I go, well, I trust Matt Taibi, he's a great reporter. Just by agreeing with that story, you're conservative.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I'm like, this is what I've noticed is like I might share something, right on, on X or whatever. I share something that is true. There's a video, you can watch the video and the responses I get are, oh my God, you're sharing something from that guy. I'm like, what's relevant about who? Okay, that's not what I do. I don't, I don't judge facts and truth based on who said them. Some people I might really despise would say something that is just true. So you just have to acknowledge that. But we live in a world now where that's how people dismiss you. Yeah, right. They dismiss. Oh, you know, anything. You could say something like the sky.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Is blue Trumper now.

[Daniel Negreanu]

But like, oh yeah, you said it so well. You know, we have to just discredit it.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. Let's jump to this from Fox News, ladies and gentlemen. Here we go. Trump's House GOP alleys. Unveil Bill allies. Sorry. Unveil Bill to authorize countries purchase American economic and security interests will no longer take a back seat, says Rep. Andy Ogles, who is leading the bill. It's time to invade Greenland and we will be greeted as liberators.

[Phil Labonte]

Invade with dollars bringing American bucks up.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I mean, the Canada one, no way.

[Phil Labonte]

No, the Canada one was, was just opposed. But like this one and the, the Panama Canal one are both legitimate arguments about not just national security, but because of these two strategic locations and the melting ice in the, in the polar, in the north, that matters. So like that's going to be a, a trade route. And the United States has been the global hegemon for the better part of 75 years. Some would argue longer. And the United States has made the whole world a safer place because of it. You don't want Russia or China owning or managing those, those trade routes.

[Daniel Negreanu]

So China, educate me on this. How does he plan? I mean, what is he suggesting here? Are we suggesting just a negotiation, a deal?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, like, this is invasion, right?

[Phil Labonte]

No, no, no. It's not going to be a military invasion. If I understand negotiation, if I understand correctly, there's only like 50,000 people up there. Right. And the last time, like, the US Got the US Virgin Islands as a. Because of strategic location compared to the Panama Canal, they. The US acquired the Virgin Islands from Denmark for 25 million.

[Daniel Negreanu]

So you just so essentially. Right. You would pay a government like, who owns Greenland now?

[Tim Pool]

Well, Greenland wants independence.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So different.

[Daniel Negreanu]

They're in Denmark. Right.

[Tim Pool]

So they are technically their own nation, but they are under, like. I forgot, admiralty or somewhere. Like, Denmark essentially controls their trade and foreign policy, but they are largely autonomous. So I don't know if they have a prime minister or whatever, but their leader was basically like, look, we are Greenlandic and we want to be independent from Denmark. Let's talk to Trump. They're basically saying, donald, look, Donald Trump goes to them and says, I will give you nothing, but we will open up gas leases, we will open up construction for hotels, we will improve your airport. The amount of money you will generate in taxes and jobs will be estimated at 5 billion in year one. Then they're gonna go, we got it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

People of Greenland will be rich.

[Daniel Negreanu]

So win, win.

[Phil Labonte]

And it does.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And it doesn't have. It doesn't actually have to be a United States territory. It just has to have the U. The US Just has to have actual influence over it. We already have a military base there.

[Tim Pool]

And it might be as simple as Trump is saying he wants Greenland, but what he ends up getting is expanded military access and oil leases.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

And then that's it. There's no actual territorial anything.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, when the UK and Western Europe become super authoritarian and woke in their New Year 2050, we might need Greenland to have a base there to stop them from invading us.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, there's already a base there.

[Daniel Negreanu]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

It's.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I know. I'm just saying, like, it's good to have a base there, but, like, they're the Western Europe, you know, I'm just saying. I'm talking Ian style. Yeah. Western Europe.

[Tim Pool]

There is one reason Donald Trump wants Greenland, and do you guys know what that is?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

He likes ice.

[Tim Pool]

Why is it Greenland and Panama?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, because. Because of the. Because of the trade routes, shipping lanes. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Greenland is control of the Northwest Passage and Panama, of course, the canal. Otherwise you got to go around. What is it, Cape Horn or what? I don't know.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

All the way down to South America.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. Holy moly.

[Tim Pool]

So if Trump is basically saying we want to control the global shipping lanes in these areas, which will make us dominant on the world stage, would you.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Guys rather Greenland or Panama? Easy answer. I feel like.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, because of.

[Phil Labonte]

Because of Russia.

[Tim Pool]

Greenland.

[Phil Labonte]

Because of Russia. I think it is. I think Greenland is probably the one because of Russia and China because of proximity to Russia as well.

[Tim Pool]

Panama gives us the canal.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Very, very powerful. But Greenland gives us the upcoming Northwest Passage as well as the oil and gas leases.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And gotta think about the future.

[Tim Pool]

I just like the cold north, so, like, vacationing in Nook sounds really fun. Yeah. Those photos.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Want to wear a big jacket?

[Tim Pool]

I went to Barrow, Alaska. Yeah. They renamed it to Utgiakvik.

[Daniel Negreanu]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Barrow, Alaska, is the northernmost city, and they named it.

[Daniel Negreanu]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Utgiagvik.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Utkiavik. Okay, cool.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Probably saying it wrong, but it's because while the city is largely like American white background, there are indigenous there. And I think they said something like 72 activists went to city council, changed the name. No one voted. No one else. So most people, they were like, it's Barrow, but now it's legally. Yuki advocate.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

How does af. How does Alaska have activists? They need to get off the Internet.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, good for them. They voted. That's. Elections have consequences.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's true. You know, so we need to get out more often. Let's go, team.

[Tim Pool]

But there. There was this story. I don't know if. Let me see if I can figure out where I have this pulled up where they're. It's really funny, actually. Here we go. Pete Hegseth confronted about seizing other countries.

[Phil Labonte]

It's so.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That lady's terrible.

[Tim Pool]

This is hilarious.

[Phil Labonte]

Maisie Hirano's garbage.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes, big time.

[Phil Labonte]

Our allies in recent weeks refusing to rule out using military force to take over Greenland and the Panama Canal and threatening to take. To make Canada the 51st state. Would you carry out an order from President Trump to seize Greenland, a territory of our NATO ally, Denmark, by force.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Or would you comply with an order to take over the Panama Canal? Senator, I will emphasize that President Trump.

[Tim Pool]

Received 77 million votes to be the lawful commander.

[Daniel Negreanu]

We're not talking about the election.

[Tim Pool]

My question is, would you use our.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Military to take over Greenland or an ally of Denmark? Senator, one of the things that ally.

[Tim Pool]

Of Denmark is so good at is.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Never strategically tipping his hand. And so I would never, in this public forum, give one way or another, direct what orders the president gives.

[Phil Labonte]

To me, in any context, it sounds.

[Daniel Negreanu]

To me that you would contemplate carrying out such an order to basically invade Greenland.

[Tim Pool]

These are. These are not smart people.

[Daniel Negreanu]

These are. Gotcha. This is. This happens both ways, right? The gotcha questions. Oh, this is so much political theater. These things, I. They drive me nuts because it's just full of baloney. You know what I mean? Like, you see it on both sides when they do this. They're just literally trying to get him to say something that they have the sound bite on that he's like. And then the news articles are all like, he wants to invade Greenland. Yep.

[Tim Pool]

That's what they're going to do. And Pete Exeth can't answer that question at all. He can't. Because you're the correct responses for anybody who's serving a commander in Chief. I am legally required to abide by all lawful orders of the President.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then they're gonna go, aha. You admit it. You would invade Greenland. And it's like, I can't ref. Well, he's a secretary of defense. Defense, right. Yeah. So he's not. I don't think that's a military role. But generally speaking, I serve at the pleasure of the Commander in Chief to act in any law.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I think that's what he was getting to. When she's going to go there.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

He was saying, you know, 77 people, million people voted for Donald Trump to make the decisions, and if he gives me a decision to make, I'll make it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Like, she cut him off because she wanted the simple answer, like, yep, I can't wait to get Greenland.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

All these hearings are a bunch of B.S. it's just. I don't know if they solve anything.

[Tim Pool]

They don't.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's.

[Daniel Negreanu]

It's political theater. I'm so over political.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. It's terrible.

[Phil Labonte]

They're.

[Tim Pool]

The TV ruined it.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, and also, you know, a lot.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Of these TV killed the radio.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Congressmen who want longevity because there are no term limits. They can be there for 20, 30 years. They want to make a name for themselves. Right. So AOC wants her moment. She wants her fiery moment where she gets the guy like, you know, you can't handle the truth. She needs that moment to fuel, you know, her name, her brand, all these types of things. This is what they all do. Like, how do they stay in power by, you know, elevating their names. You.

[Tim Pool]

I think you've actually said something that would make me consider being in Congress. I would love to sit there and just like, how much time do I have to question the witness you said five minutes. You, sir, want the truth, but you can't handle the truth. Now let me. I would just start monologuing, making no sense whatsoever. But it would look really cool on camera. And then I would just be like, look at this dramatic. I'd edit music into it. I would waste everyone's time. That sounds truly fun. Then I would never get reelected again and everyone be disappointed.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, you might get reelected again. You're gonna be like a Matt Gaetz style.

[Daniel Negreanu]

When you're gonna come with gotcha questions, you gotta come with like one better ones than that. Like the one when Ted Cruz, I think it was with the, the judge and he just asked her the simple question, what is a woman?

[Tim Pool]

Katanji Brown Jackson.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, Katanji Brown Jackson.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I'm not a player.

[Tim Pool]

He just said, like, I'm not a biologist.

[Phil Labonte]

He knew that was, he's.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I, I cannot answer that question, which is like a pretty simple question is what, what is the definition of a word? You know, and they're like, his goal was obvious. Like he knew what was going to happen. He's going to put her back up against the wall because she has to appease like a certain faction of progressive people who don't want her to say what's true. And you know, those are the ones that work and they create those sort of short soundbites. This one, she couldn't even get it out. Well, like it took her forever to sort of get the sentence.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, but let's look at this one. This one's from the rap. Elizabeth Warren slams Pete Hegseth for refusing to meet with her about his record on women. And so in this back and forth, I don't really care about the win in combat. For, for this context. Yeah, it's, it's this video right here. This is where the conversation went. Listen to this. In other words, you're quite sure that.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Every general who serves should not go.

[Tim Pool]

Directly into the defense industry for 10 years. You're not willing to make that same pledge. I'm not a general.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Senator.

[Tim Pool]

You'Ll be the one. Let us just be clear. In charge of the generals and other words. Oh, that was miserably embarrassing. I am not a general. But he's right. The argument being made by a lot of activists I agree with this is that, and I think Elon Musk, if Vivek were talking about it, if you're a general, you should not be allowed to go and work in the private sector, military industrial companies for at least 10 years. So she's trying to play that up. He's like, but I'm not a general. And then everyone laughs at her. This is the degree of preparedness we can expect. They're not sending their best.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think that it's, I mean, it's not particularly controversial for your average American to be like, yeah, you know, the Secretary of Defense shouldn't get out of the office of Sec Def. And then go right to racism.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Like that is something that all Americans agree with. Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine the argument against it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah, same thing. And it's, you know, the, the average American agrees in the, in the banking industry too. You don't want the, whoever's running the Fed to go to the board of Goldman, you know, or go to, you know, the board of, of Wells Fargo or whatever. Wells Fargo might not, might not even have a board. But either way, point being Citibank, you don't want to have people in an industry that is, that is supposed to be regulating, or you don't want people in government that is supposed to be regulating an industry going into that industry when they get out of their, their job, you know.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, nobody likes the fact that, you know, our politicians are beholden to who pays their bills. Like one example I can give you, when I was in, I was in California, we were trying to pass a legislation for online poker there and I met with like, we had this little party, met with like all these Republicans, right? And to a man, this is when Sheldon Adelson was still alive and he was super anti online poker. Didn't want anything to do with it. I, because he didn't have an in on it. He was, he was at, he was behind the times, right? So he, he basically, he was, you know, paying all, you know, he was spending a lot of money with these politicians and they came up to me and frankly, to a man, they all said, listen, we'd love to do it, you know, but Sheldon flat out said, if I say yes on this bill, I'm cut off. And how it works, you know, and that's, Nobody likes that. It happens all over, you know, but a lot of these guys, they literally, their whole job in Congress is raising money. They spend 40 hours a week raising money for their next election.

[Phil Labonte]

But it is, it is worth noting that the industries that the, the or the agencies that are assigned to regulate industries, the people that are the regulators have to understand the industry too. So you end up with this, this, you know, this circular situation where the people that are regulating have to know the Industry well enough to make intelligent and, and, and comprehensive regulations if it's going to be regulated. But you also don't want them to get out of, out of, out of the business of government, get out of the bureaucracy and then be like well the only thing I know how to do is the business that I was regulating. And it's also the business where I can get offered the most money. It becomes the corruption is, is almost built in. And I personally, I think the, the actual answer is to limit what the government can actually regulate. But at the same time it's at least worth talking about the fact that these things aren't as, it's not as simple as just don't let regulators go into the business or, or don't have people from that business be the regulators.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it's actually much simpler. I have the solution. It's that you in Congress we're going to do term limits.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yes, I was going to say that.

[Tim Pool]

Eight, eight years. But you got to wait. You got to wait eight years. Senate eight years. I don't like the six year term thing. Okay, maybe, maybe the Senate gets a little bit long.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe it's one term for a senator. Six years. Just not 50, not 50. And then once your terms are up to the island.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Wait, wait. You got it.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You got to go to the island after island.

[Tim Pool]

Greenland, Large Greenland.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Good job.

[Tim Pool]

And you can't leave ever again.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Who's going to do this job?

[Tim Pool]

That's a not good question.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

To save America. I would, I would help. I would go to the island.

[Tim Pool]

Do you really care about your community and want to represent and do right by this country? Because as soon as your, your terms are up, you go to a far off community where you will never come back and you will never work for anybody. I'm kidding by the way. I'm just saying we would all be satisfied with our politics.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Term limits. I got excited because it's like so many of these politicians that I met, like they all literally said they, they're on the. That's all they do. They don't have time to look at actual issues to help the community because they gotta, they gotta spend all their time and research on raising money for their next election. We keep spending all this money. Like I don't understand. I mean I guess I do understand like how you spend a billion dollars on a campaign. I guess if you're you know, paying meg stallion 1 point fiance to show up and what's that one point whatever it is. I'm just Saying billion dollars. It's like, all this money that the country needs and the people need. Like, why are you. Why are you begging us to give you money to run campaigns? You know, it's just so backwards.

[Tim Pool]

Let me jump to this one. We brought this up a moment ago. This from the rap. Elizabeth Warren slams Hagseth for refusing to meet with her about his record on women. And ultimately, Hegseth had agreed women should. He would support women in combat roles if confirmed, saying that so long as the standard remains high, he would be okay with it. So Elizabeth Warren basically is grandstanding, saying, you don't want women in combat. Now why is she doing it? She's doing it to get a viral clip that her campaign can send out to a bunch of people and say, here's why you should give us money. Because I yelled at Pete Hegseth.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, right. Did he. At one point, he. At one point, he said he was. He thought women shouldn't. Should not be.

[Tim Pool]

In one point, he said it like 50.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Okay, so at 50 points, he said that. And now he's reversed his decision to say that he'd be okay with it if they meet the standards that everyone else.

[Tim Pool]

And the standards are high.

[Phil Labonte]

Totally. I totally disagree with that.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, I remember you were sort of saying this thing.

[Tim Pool]

I think he disagrees with it too. But he's saying what he legally is required to say.

[Phil Labonte]

Women shouldn't be in combat roles because men look at women differently psychologically. Men are going to defer to women. Human beings prefer women over men. That's just something that's built into us. Everybody is nicer to women than they are to men. That's just the way it is. I'm not saying that men are victims because of it. I'm just saying this is reality. And because of that, women and also women are the magic creatures that make babies. And most of Western society, wealthy societies in particular, don't replace themselves. So no women in combat roles at all.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yes. I'm going to disagree with that one. Just simply on the basis of this, you put a protocol. This is what you need to do to be a Marine. Right. If a woman gets through that, just the same one that every other man does. Right. And she wants to be in a combat role, and she can do the job and isn't a liability, I'm okay with that. The psychological aspects that you sort of touched on, I feel like, you know, there could be something there. But at the same time, I feel like, you know, in the military, there's like a brotherhood. Right? Yeah, you're there to, you know, for you guys. And you know, even if that were true, I don't think it's fair to say to women who want to do the job you can't because some guys might be affected by it.

[Phil Labonte]

Life's not fair. I don't care the fact. But the fact of the matter also, there was, there was a study done by the Marine Corps and all male units perform better than, than integrated units all across the board. They perform better in every aspect than integrated units, first of all. And second of all, I forget what my second point was because, but, but at the end of the day, I think that there's nothing wrong with having women in the military. There's a ton of jobs they can do. They just don't need to be, they don't need to be in combat.

[Tim Pool]

I think the issue with combat is that once, once you agree women can and should be in combat, then women can and should be drafted. And I'm for it because take a look at this. Look how fat everybody is. Oh, yes, women, Women's Average height is 5, 4 and they weigh 170 pounds. I'm like saying, don't get me wrong, guys are what, five, eight and weigh 200 pounds? Y'all need basic training.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Bring them to camp, make them crawl around in the mud. They eat proper food and they work out. And they got to do 50 push ups because y'all are fat.

[Phil Labonte]

One quick thing to the point, I was saying that, you were saying, not the baby makers, you were talking about standards. It's also been shown that when standards are high and women continue to not meet the standards, the upper, upper, upper NCOs and brass start looking at the people that are actually training them and saying, what's wrong? Why are no women meeting the standards? And they end up lowering the standards.

[Daniel Negreanu]

That should never happen.

[Phil Labonte]

But that's, that's part of human psychology.

[Daniel Negreanu]

That's essentially what little like what DEI does, right. The whole concept of it is the only way to like the equation is simple, right? Let's say you want to get the 100 best doctors, right? And five of them are people of color. Okay, well, you want to get it to 20. Well, how do you do that? Right. Well, you have to lower the, you have to look deeper into the list to get there. So what you essentially done is you've not taken the top 100. You've talked taken, you know, some of the top one skipped over, you've skipped, you've skipped over other people who I.

[Tim Pool]

I got to Say this like in all seriousness about women in combat. The stories I've heard from my friends who are veterans and have gone through basic training about how women are treated have nothing to do with the standards. So what I've heard is standards might be the same, but they're still not going to hold the women at an individual level to those standards.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

10,000%.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just going to ask Raymond.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes, sir.

[Tim Pool]

Who actually was in the. Is a veteran.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

When you were, when you were in basic training, were there women?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Negative.

[Tim Pool]

You had no women?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I was an infantry unit and. Well, just. I'm sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, interesting.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No women. Zero. Back in the day.

[Tim Pool]

And you know, you know anybody who did basic with women?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, I don't know any pogues really.

[Tim Pool]

So I want to defer to you. No, I don't, sir, because my story is just hearsay. I've spent time around a few different military bases. I briefly lived on one with family, very briefly. And what I ended up hearing, and I have family who are veterans, what I heard is that from a bunch of different guys is that despite the fact the women were supposed to have the same standards, they would cry and the guys, the commanding officers would say, just, just stop, just go, just leave.

[Daniel Negreanu]

So that can't happen. Right.

[Tim Pool]

So here's. That can't be avoided.

[Daniel Negreanu]

So here's what I'm thinking though, like in a utopian world. Right. I think it should be as simple as this.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Here's the standard. If you qualify, you're in. Whether, regardless whether you're a man or woman, it should be that. Right. If there are, you know, steps being taken to sort of like make it easier for one sex or the other and it, it risks the lives of, of the, you know, the, the other combatants and stuff like that, then obviously not.

[Tim Pool]

But, but the issue is that it's granular.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I don't think that you can avoid it either.

[Tim Pool]

We're going to say, people, sometimes everyone's got to do 100 push ups. And what's going to happen is in an individual level, the guy does 100, the woman does 70, complains, and the guy in charge goes, it's fine.

[Daniel Negreanu]

See, that shouldn't happen. That's, that's like you can't avoid that. Stop that. You can't tell the guy, no, no, no. Do 100 or not. But then it.

[Phil Labonte]

Once you. The reality is that is human nature. Like I said earlier, human beings prefer women to men. That's just the way we are and it's built into us because Women make babies.

[Tim Pool]

That's part of real, real quick. I want to throw to the super chat because I am not a veteran. So me telling a story based on hearsay about people's experience in basic training with women. I'm curious for you guys to chat or super chat your experiences in basic training.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Bring them in with.

[Tim Pool]

With women and men and tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. I don't want to just give hearsay as fact. Right.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I never did. I never did. Women in bouquet.

[Daniel Negreanu]

It's anecdotal. Any kind of.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

People's experiences, their perception of the experience. It might not necessarily even be true. Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, Tim, I put the.

[Daniel Negreanu]

How much do we put into sort of limited data like that right in the slack.

[Phil Labonte]

I put in the link to that. To the piece where they say that integrated units perform worse than that. Someone. Someone sent me the. A link to it. But anyway, so go ahead. Sorry for.

[Daniel Negreanu]

No, that's okay.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

But we, we helped out. Like, officers are terrible at what they do. They go to officer training school and they come into the Fleet Marine Force and they can't hump and they can't run and they can't hike. And we still let them, you know, be in charge of us. Even though they're falling behind, we got to help them out. Or we let fat bodies. You know, it's with the stripes, the stripe people. If you guys know, I'm talking about for the Marine Corps, you had stripes, platoons, the. They would have to do another recourse over again to go through boot camp again. So we give standards. We let people go all the time. But I agree with you, Daniel. If we just said there's a limit. Stop it. Done. And if everyone listened to that, it'd be great.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to pause and just say I want women in combat. I want Democrats to champion women in combat. And then I want Democrats to confirm that women will be forced to sign up for selective service because it is the fastest way to get the entire female demographic in this country to vote Republican.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, yeah, if, if we can, if we're going to do that, then, I mean, I love women. I don't want them to die. But if they want their rights, equal rights, man, got to do it.

[Tim Pool]

Republicans are traditionalist, largely, and so there's many prominent conservatives and Republicans who are saying women don't fight. I don't care about standards. I don't care what you think. Women are not fighters. Men should be fighters. Democrats are saying women are equal and can fight if they want to. And so this is actually true. The push for women to sign up for the draft in the US Was Democrats, not Republicans. Republicans took moral issue with it. Democrats think it's a moral issue not to do it. And young women across the country lost their minds on tick tock screaming. I, I am not doing this. I did not vote for this.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So let's. Ladies, come on down. Men in the Republican Party want to make sure that you can be comfortable, that you can live your beautiful life and never have to raise a weapon. And Democrats want you on the front lines.

[Daniel Negreanu]

And I think the sane position should be simply this. It's up to you. If you, if you. No, no. If you want to be in combat and you can handle the rigorous training and you're going to be a good asset, I'm all for it, you know, but again, obviously not at any, you know, lowering of any bars. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, they tried that in the Rangers, and the Rangers had. They Rangers weren't graduating women. And so they. They started looking at the Ranger units. Why aren't you graduating?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Essentially what DEI is, Right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

When DEI gets involved, it's like, okay, well, how do we get.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think we can have one, because I think because of human psychology, we can't get one.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Why not?

[Tim Pool]

Because of law.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So what ends up happening is there. The reason why Hegseth is saying he supports women in combat is that it is a 1964 Civil Rights act legal requirement for him to do so. So what happens then is women will file a lawsuit saying the standards are discriminatory. You can see from the results women aren't passing. If it's going to be gender neutral, it has to be a standard that applies to men and women, not just men.

[Daniel Negreanu]

All nonsense.

[Tim Pool]

And that's what happens.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, that's all nonsense.

[Tim Pool]

I agree.

[Daniel Negreanu]

That's the danger. That's the dangerous aspect of it, where it sounds, in theory, like a nice thing. Well, let's be inclusive. Let's be diverse. Let's do all that. Okay. But, yeah, when it comes to war, people's lives are on the line. So you want to make sure that everybody there got in the same way and passed the same tests, are equally qualified. And again, I don't care if they're male or female. It's irrelevant to me as long as they can do the job. But any sort of, you know, manipulating the standards in order to get this exact demographic you want is literally putting.

[Phil Labonte]

People'S lives at risk every time you make standards that a one group consistently misses. There will be people that will make accommodations so that way that group passes. That's that. That was what happened. That's what happened with. With George Bush's no Child Left Behind. No Child Left behind was instituted. And because people weren't graduating, teachers just started saying, okay, push them on through. Push them on through. And now, like, 30% of graduating students can't read at all.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, I say that. I'd say there's a loud pushback, though, against the whole process. Like when you look at, say, for getting there, we're school admissions. Right. With the Asian community. Right. If you're an Asian male and you want to get into an Ivy League school, the road to get there is almost impossible in comparison to somebody, you know, maybe a person of color or whatever, when the standards are different. Right. So there's been a big pushback where they've. They've changed rules and stuff like that. But the results do that anymore.

[Phil Labonte]

The results in the military are dead people.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Right. Because you have to have people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's. It's far more dramatic than just, oh, you know, Johnny down there doesn't read good. You know what I mean? It's like he graduates or whatever, and he doesn't read as well as other people that graduated. Well, they just kind of shoved him through to get him out the door. It sucks for him.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Then there should be some standardized rules in terms of, like, the bar. And it's as simple as this. If you don't hit each and every one that's documented, you're not in.

[Phil Labonte]

That's what you do.

[Daniel Negreanu]

You're in.

[Phil Labonte]

That's what's supposed to happen with. Like I said, that's what's supposed to happen with. With no Child Left Behind. They're supposed. They're supposed to be. The point of no Child Left behind was educate all children. But because people are different and because all the kids have different aptitudes, which is totally ignored, they just start shoving people through. And that kind of. And that's. That's part of human beings. We live. We are. We are just people that are, you know, are completely. They're all different, and we all have different abilities. And you can't make the unable able. So what ends up is you start letting the unable go do the stuff that the able people are. And in the. In a combat situation, that means more deaths. And it also means the United States losing more engagements. And if you lose too many engagements, you lose wars.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And if you. You can't read Very well. You're, you're allowed to join the, the military, the Marine Corps. If you can shoot rifles, if you use the mortar rounds, you can shoot 50 cal. If you could drive a tank, that's great. We don't need you to read. We need you to be effective and a killer and then you get a free college when you're done.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

And again, I don't have a problem with, with women in the military, just combat. That's it.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, we're gonna go to super chats so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Share the show with everyone you know. Become a member by going to timcast.com and clicking join us. Because if you believe in the work that we do and you want us to continue doing it, we rely on viewers like you as a member. You get access to the uncensored show Monday through Thursday at 10pm that will be coming up in about a half an hour. And as a member you can call in, actually talk to us and our guests. It's a lot of fun. I'm going to start with two newer super chats because they're relevant to conversation. Herbal Patriot says yes, you're correct, Tim. When I was in BCT Army 2003 it was disgusting. Some of the women being passed hauled by TRK during marches because they can't hold their own. We are too weak biologically. Another says military here. Tim is right. Women are not held to the same standard even in non combat roles. They're a liability and also a new vector for strife and conflict. They're they more likely to crack under pressure, break from the stress. What I've heard from a handful of different people who were in basic training was that women would cry, they'd say I can't do it. And there were legal requirements to give them showers and bathroom breaks because of hygiene issues women have that men don't. Which no matter what you do, you can say 50 push ups is 50 push ups and then they say I have, I have a hygiene issue. A man does not. And they're legally required to provide that relief. So where guys crawl through the mud and don't get a shower and wear the dirty clothes the next day. They can't do that for women because of potential infections and other things like that. Yeah.

[Daniel Negreanu]

And you know, to bring up, you know, like I said, I'm in a utopian world. Maybe, you know, maybe I'm naive in terms of what's possible because there is the added aspect of like you said, like if you're at combat and a woman goes through a menstrual cycle, which they do, like, every 30 days. Their hormone imbalance could lead to, like, sort of being. I mean, I. You've been around, like, it affects you, you know, hormonally and physically and all these types of things. So, like, if you're in Afghanistan, you know, and you're in this military combat situation and you have a very bad menstrual cycle, like, what?

[Phil Labonte]

Then here's.

[Tim Pool]

Here's another problem for you.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If a man is in the military. Let me ask you guys.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes, sir.

[Tim Pool]

Good. Sir. If you were in the military and your girlfriend got pregnant, what would your chain of command say to you?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

If my girlfriend got pregnant, they'd be like, okay, cool. She's. She's back at the rear. If I'm out in the. Out in the field, then.

[Tim Pool]

No, like, she's a civilian.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's what I mean. Out in the rear. That means. That's what I mean. The rears.

[Tim Pool]

Back at home.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I'm sorry. Back at home. She's back at home and I'm out in the. In the. In the.

[Tim Pool]

They don't care, right?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, they don't give. Fuck.

[Tim Pool]

What would happen if a female. Oh, that's a big.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That's a difference. There's a huge difference. I mean, I don't know exactly. I'm not a female marine or a service member.

[Tim Pool]

But you can't fight. You'd be.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

She cannot.

[Tim Pool]

Now, hold on.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

She cannot.

[Tim Pool]

That's a problem. That's sexual discrimination. If a man is having a child, they say, congratulations. If he gets married, he gets a pay bump and he gets a. He can live off base in housing. Yeah, but if a woman gets pregnant, all of a sudden, she's a liability. Whoa. Now we got problems in the Air Force.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

She gets a new uniform. Apparently, that fits her. Last couple years ago, remember, they gave out the uniform?

[Tim Pool]

The issue, I suppose, is combat requires you to be in combat. Like if. If you're.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. Combat courses being combat. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If you're a truck driver, a pregnant woman can drive a truck for a certain amount of time, and they can accommodate that. But there is still an issue that if a man wants to have a child, it's a congratulations, good luck. If a woman does, it's a, we're taking you out. You're out of commission.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yep.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I mean, yeah, that's an argument to your case. Like I said, you know, if a woman is simply not, you know, physically unable to be at their best, you know, the entire time. And they face challenges that us men were lucky not to, you know, because it's right. I mean, I'm thankful that I don't have to go through because I've seen it. I've seen women go through intense pain. And obviously everyone has varying degrees of menstrual cycles. But not that this podcast is about menstrual cycles, but. But it is a. You know, it can be a real issue. So on that alone, you know, you already look at male and female body type as a combatant. There is potentially liability with one and not the other.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And if. And Pete brought that up also with. Also I. This is, I know a small subject of what we're talking about, but transgender folks and other like, stuff like that, that if you're. You're not capable to fight, they take you out. If you're having surgery, if you had a molar, you're taking out, you can't fight, then you're no good to being in the United States military.

[Phil Labonte]

Let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's read some more. We got Robert Del Cruz, who says, screw kibble. Simple. No, Al gaily says, Tim, your problem isn't free trade. Each of the 50 states has free trade with the other 49. No tariffs. Free trade is fine. The problem is other markets are even less free and operate on slave labor and subsidies. Right. So I suppose your argument is once we conquer China and end Chinese slave labor practices and clean up their environment, we can do, do, do deals with them. If we can't do that, then we're competing at an unfair standard. And I'm not a fan.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

What have we here? Big cheese says Minnesota judge declared State House District 54 for the DFL, who won by 14 votes. County election clerk admitted to throwing out 20 ballots. Seven of those ballots were for the Republican. Yikes.

[Daniel Negreanu]

There was 20 thrown out and seven were Republican.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Or at least seven. Seven were confirmed to be.

[Daniel Negreanu]

And what were the other 13? Oh, they don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Let me. Well, if this person doesn't, we should fact check that.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What are we looking up?

[Tim Pool]

Because then they threw up more Democrat ones.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, that's. I mean, if.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Daniel Negreanu]

If you're saying 20 were thrown out and seven were Democrats and you're making that case, you're sort of making the opposite case.

[Tim Pool]

The clapper of Cheek says, this is insane. YouTube has been feeding me Negronu poker videos for two weeks. I've been captured by the algorithm. Well, that's great because it means that this video was more likely be recommended to you. Because you watch poker. All right, what is this Horsehead says, Tim, based on your reaction to finding out Americans average weight, what do you think about doing a deep dive into that as well as exploring long term solutions? Thanks for covering the UK gangs. Also, I like to annoy Allison because she always gives me advice on health, and then I don't listen. And then later I'll watch a podcast that says what she told me to do, and I'll start doing it, and she gets so mad. And then no matter what it is, I'll always just say, luke told me to do it. So it's like, I'm like, you know what? I gotta start getting more sleep. And then she looks at me and she, like, you know, rolls her eyes and I'm like, well, I was talking to Luke and he was saying sleep's really important.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, I have to go. Like, for me, if I give my wife advice on what to do or something like that, there's no chance. But if Kim Kardashian says she takes this thing, I'm like, oh, well, then, yeah, this is great.

[Tim Pool]

You know, AI is your friend. Yeah, let's make it AI video.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I mean, I wasn't prepared for this. It was a joke beforehand. But in honor of Allison, we got Luke upside down in the background because he's in distress.

[Tim Pool]

So is that why you put him upside down? He's in distress?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Okay. Kyle says, daniel, what do you think about Madison last week on only fans saying that you've come around to his side. You were a little unhinged a couple of years ago. Still my goat.

[Daniel Negreanu]

So. Mike Mattiso, by the way, he asked me.

[Phil Labonte]

He.

[Daniel Negreanu]

When he heard I was going on here. He's like a massive fan. He watches every one of your shows.

[Tim Pool]

He's like, I got to get him out of here.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, he loves it. There's actually a documentary about his life I figured I'd be okay to plug. It's on Amazon Prime. It's called Madison. It just released. And it's. He's very, very open and, you know, vulnerable about his position. So as. As to the claim that, you know, Mike Mattiso and I, I. I think we were never really that. That far apart. He just buys, like, every conspiracy theory without, like, he would. Here's the thing about Mike, right? He would. He would, like, post a. An article on X and go, see, I told you so because you read the headline, but if you read the article, it says the exact opposite of what he thinks it says. Right? So, like, you didn't read the article. So I still, you know, like, I don't think we were that far apart necessarily. Like I said, I've always had traditional, old school, simple, liberal values. Let people do what they want. You want to. You're gay, you want to get married. Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

You know, but then the media started lying to everybody. And so what ends up happening is people with these same views that never changed believe things that aren't correct, like the very fine people hoax. And then when you realize, like, wait a minute, they lied, you're instantly right wing.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah. Anytime you point that out. Like, I remember again, specifically the first time it happened, and I was in the bubble and we're. When Covid was happening, you know, and if you were Democrat, you thought it came from a bat, and if you're Republican, it came from a lab.

[Tim Pool]

And it did come from a lab.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, I mean, here's the thing. I thought about it. I'm like, well, wait a minute, I don't know. Does anybody know? Nobody really knows. So why are you racist if you think it came from a lab and you're like, righteous if you think it came from a bat? It's just like, it was such an obvious example to me of how tribal we are and how depending where you got your news, this is what you must think.

[Tim Pool]

But, yeah, it is. Now, I believe the principal belief among government is lab leak.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Almost assuredly, it seems like very, very likely. High percentage. Again, not 100% sure, but it seems very, very likely that the only Covid lab in the China that happened to be in Wuhan is block away.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Or about a thousand miles away.

[Tim Pool]

So the meme is, what's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the news? What, six months?

[Daniel Negreanu]

No, just fair. Fair. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's grab some more. Let's see. China Ripper says, have you seen the satellite images shows three fires starting at the exact same time. Interesting. No, I didn't see it. There was a big wildfire in September, actually, in California. A bit north, I think.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Do you. Real quick. Do you think, Warren, every day there's someone new starting a fire down.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, there's a fire. Oh, yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And watching Ghost is posted one before I came on the show. Like, are we gonna. Are they gonna burn down LA area? Because everyone wants to start fires. That's. I hope not.

[Tim Pool]

Because resources are strained, crackpot criminals are feeling their free reign. It's terrifying. All right, let's see. How do you pronounce that? Dead ear says, just wanted to. Wanted a shout out for My birthday, Brandon. Ellie, long time listener, first time sending a super chat. Just picked up a bag of graphene dream. Have a good night, y'all. Happy birthday, Brandon. Really appreciate you picking up some graphene dream. I'm sure Ian does as well every birthday. Brandon, Happy birthday. Josh Berg says, how do you feel about some Americans downloading the TikTok alt red note and deleting Facebook, IG and X despite the US government? Just how China doesn't allow Google. Should America ban all foreign entities or at least adversarial? I agree with the divestment and I don't care what a few thousand people are doing with downloading some app. I don't know, a lot of people are downloading. It's not going to happen. It never happens. What do you, what do you think about the TikTok band?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, I mean, I think there is already precedent. There is a law on the books, right, where like, foreign entities cannot own what, what we consider like media corporations in America. Right. Or a specific percentage of it. Right.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Daniel Negreanu]

There, there is a law in the books that you can't. But then the question begins. The question about this bill or whatever that was being passed is like, I think it, the question is like, how far reach does it have? Does it get to like, well, Elon's not born in America. Does that mean he has to give up, you know, X or something along those lines? So it's a slippery slope. I've actually heard both sides of this argument and my first instinct was like, you know, this is a China propaganda machine. Tick tock. Right? They're allied with, you know, our, our enemies, if you will. And they use this to poison the minds of our youth. Right. And the, the brand of Tick tock that they get in China is very different than the one we get here. So on the surface I feel like, okay, well, yeah, maybe there should be something to be done about that. But then the question is how do you do that while also protecting, you know, other social media companies and others without giving government total overreach, where they can just say at any point, well, we're going to shut you down. Because, you know, for whatever reason, they've.

[Phil Labonte]

Already got total overreach. The, the, the, the constitutionality of banning tick tock isn't really in question. There's no constitutional precedent to give the government the, the authority to ban something like that unless you say that it's for national security. I do believe that TikTok is a, is a, is a, a means for the Chinese Communist Party to influence and acquire information on Americans and, and you know, things that the, the government's doing. Like if you're say that the, the owner of Lockheed Martin or one of the people on the board of Lockheed Martin or someone with a top secret clearance at Lockheed or Raytheon or whatever, they have a kid and their kid has TikTok on their phone, there's no telling what they can access through the phone because I don't know myself what they can access. But I mean, if, if my phone can start my car, you know, we're already plugged in. I don't, I, I'm sure that, that, you know, some, some smart, you know, Chinese programmers could use any number of apps in the phone if they have access to the phone. And if, you know, if TikTok does get access to the phone the way that we assume that it does access to the microphone, access to, to the, to the Bluetooth and stuff like that, I'm sure that there are all kinds of nefarious things they could be doing. Now, I don't have any problem with banning TikTok. I don't think that it's, it's. I don't think that it's a free.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Standing is the right approach. I think, think selling to an American.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't have a problem with that either.

[Tim Pool]

I agree.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Right. Like if Elon buys it, for example.

[Tim Pool]

Then there's, there's, that's disputed now. We don't know if that's gonna, if that was ever true. But I don't believe that foreign countries have free speech rights in America.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

So I don't see why.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, the UK certainly doesn't.

[Tim Pool]

So the argument on the free speech of Tick Tock is that we can't force divestment because it violates the free speech rights of, of ByteDance and the Chinese partners. And I'm like, why would Chinese nationals in China have free speech in America?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

They can suck a big one.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. The Founding Fathers were not intending, like, I think if you go to an originalist argument, the Constitution. If you went to the Founding Fathers and said, should foreign countries, particularly adversarial ones, be allowed to leaflet in the United States? They'd say no.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah. Essentially a good analogy because it's essentially what it is. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Right. We got this from Patricia Wright. She says USAF wife here met active duty women who got pregnant on purpose to avoid their deployment cycle.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Of course, I mean, it makes sense.

[Tim Pool]

She said, whether married or not, sometimes by cheating.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, wow.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Okay. And everyone's Pregnant by the time you get back from your deployment. Never mind. But you know, if you throw a.

[Phil Labonte]

Combat, if you throw like, you know, a combat element out into like forward operating bases.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, all the women are getting pregnant.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Like unless they feel about this in combat. Right. Because I was curious just about your take specifically. What if there was like say for example, an all woman unit? Would you be opposed to that?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

100.

[Phil Labonte]

Because. Because the psychological.

[Daniel Negreanu]

They're all women. Right.

[Tim Pool]

Well.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, okay. So that's not an all women military though. So this, there's all women battalions.

[Daniel Negreanu]

You have different.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. So this all women unit.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

So say it's a company. Right. All women company. Right. They get into, into contact and you know that all the, all the surrounding elements are going to be like, we need to go get them, we need to go help them out. We need to go defend them.

[Tim Pool]

It's not, it's, it's not even that. That's.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, that's what I'm thinking.

[Tim Pool]

You really want to send like a unit of female combat to go fight Taliban men?

[Daniel Negreanu]

I'm not effective unit. I was curious if it would.

[Tim Pool]

I just mean rhetorically.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, of course. Right.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, they would be dead in a heartbeat. I mean they can shoot fine and all this stuff, but no, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

They're not going to be able to carry the same amount of ammo.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

So I mean they're not going to last.

[Tim Pool]

It's, it's really simple. You would. So when you look at grip strength, when you look at stamina, endurance, it's something like I think a thousand or it's less. It's like 10,000 to 1. I actually don't think that any woman at the highest end reaches the highest end of men. So when we're talking about men in combat, you're already talking about the, the top microscopic percentile of men who are trained and active and able. Women don't reach that high. So when we talk about like if a woman can, can pass the standard, there's a 6 foot 3 woman who's ripped and is stronger than a 5 foot 7 guy. True. But that 6 foot 3 woman is still weaker than a 6 foot 3 guy who is being chosen.

[Daniel Negreanu]

The 5, 7 guy isn't in that role.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Right.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And I would like to change my answer. The American women combat force would not die instantly. We definitely, probably they probably take over France and some other probably they do. Okay. And you know, certain prospects so you know, shout them out.

[Phil Labonte]

Nice.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I still think the, the biggest issue would be that combat element would be looked at by other combat elements.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, we gotta go save after.

[Phil Labonte]

We have to save them. They're in contact. We need to send. We need to send guys to help them out. We need to go protect them.

[Tim Pool]

No, not if the other combat elements are incels. They deserve it.

[Phil Labonte]

It's hard enough to fill the ranks, you know, but you're right. Then they'd be like, leave them. Let's go help the bad guys.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

There we go. Prop house, right?

[Phil Labonte]

All right.

[Tim Pool]

Black ops ELF says never attribute to incompetence what is more likely attributable to malice. They've declared their purpose is to destroy us, and they've been good at this, but we have trouble processing it, so we default to saying they're incompetent. Don't underestimate. Who's they talking about? The government of California and Democrats. Yeah, it's hard to believe it's incompetence when they're like with de Blasio, for instance, in New York, he was saying he wanted to buy a public. He wanted to buy buildings for pennies on the dollar. And then COVID lockdown happens and he's like, now we're going to do it. So it's like my view is more that Democrats exploit crises with smiles on their faces and they tell you they do it, not that they create crises to then exploit. Yeah, that's a lot harder to do.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Do do. Have we heard anything on that? I mean, I haven't looked into it myself, but I wonder if he has like sideline buying stuff up over there in the, in the city.

[Tim Pool]

He's gone.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

But he still buys. He's a citizen. He can still.

[Tim Pool]

Oh no, he's not doing anything.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

You know what I mean?

[Tim Pool]

Spidge B. Says Daniel Tim is too cocky about poker school him.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, I already know that. He talked before the show started. And yeah, you know, he. You are lucky. Right? You believe that? Okay, good. That's important. That's step one.

[Tim Pool]

That was my joke. I was like when I, when I, I, I goof off and get lucky and then, and then talk slammed the rest of the players. Just that's to antagonize them.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, you have to show. We're gonna take the camera out to the table.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no, I mean, I'm just kidding. We got the poker at the boys table, you know, and very, very, very impressive.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I only brought 20, 000. Is that enough?

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm sure my, my poker stories are like to compare to the average person when the kindergartner comes in with the. The grand drawing and being like, look what I did. I'm telling this guy a poker story. And I'm like, he's heard it.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, I'd say I love this saying because it's true, but, like, poker's a lot like sex in that everybody thinks they're good at it, but most people don't have a clue what they're doing. Like, you know, have you ever met someone says, hey, are you. You know, you good. Good in bed? And, no, I'm terrible. Well, I. You know, everyone thinks they're pretty good. Same with poker.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. And it's. It's funny, especially because, you know, playing at the local poker room, everybody wants to give you advice because they know better than you.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, I get it. I get it from people who play one, two, you know, $2, $5. And they said, yeah, you know, you should have folded that hand. I'm like, why?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

And they don't know who you are. Hey, buddy, let me give you some advice.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, yeah. It's whatever you have to take it with.

[Tim Pool]

People who know who you are would tell.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh, I get it all the time when I'm playing online, and sometimes I'm streaming on YouTube or whatever. My poker. You get people just randoms on the rail. But the difference is they can see the cards and they see what happens. So they can play, like, armchair quarterback. It's like watching sports. Don't you see that with sports? People watch sports and they say, you. What are you doing? Why don't you. They're telling, like, Josh Allen or whatever is like, you should have ran there. It's like. Like, you don't think he knows better than you? Yeah, you think you know better than he.

[Tim Pool]

My. My. My favorite line that someone told me was, no one's ever wrong at the poker table. And so this guy was like, his advice. It's good advice when the other guy makes a mistake. You tell them they did everything right, that you did the right thing. Nothing you could have done there, buddy. You know, what are you gonna do?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, hard luck.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Daniel Negreanu]

That's the way. That's what I've been telling Mike Matiso for many, many years. Yep. You're just unlucky.

[Tim Pool]

So if you're giving people advice, it's like, why would I listen to you? We're at a poker table. You're a liar.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, well, the people that do that, it's like a mistake, especially if they're giving the correct advice.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Okay, I'll give you the good advice.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Like, so let's say there's five of us playing poker. I mean, you're terrible.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Sorry. I am.

[Daniel Negreanu]

You're terrible. We're all going to beat you out of money. Wait, I don't want him telling you stuff while we're playing. Yeah, but how to play better because, you know, you cost everybody else.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that. I mean, that's happened to me because I. I don't care. At 1 2, like, we were talking about, like, if you were just goofing off. And so there was a guy playing miserably and he kept buying in, and I was telling him, like, hey, tighter. Well, I was like, 10, 5. You know, like, if I'm. If I'm betting, here, here's what I'm doing. And they're like, shut up, man. Yeah, like this dude dumping money on the table. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know, Let me dump the money on the table. Because I can. And I'm having fun with you guys. Not the poor sucker who's losing everything and is really depressed right now.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Very nice. That's a good way.

[Daniel Negreanu]

That's kind of where I wanted to get in poker, where the people that I play with, they can all for to lose. You know, I don't feel comfortable taking Grandma Betty's last $200 at the table. But like, you know, rich billionaire tech guy, and I'm like, I don't mind you.

[Tim Pool]

With me, it's kind of like hot potato, because I'll goof off and I'll. I'll bet and play like wild and loose, and then other people win, but then one person ends up losing that hot potato, and then they feel bad, and then the guy's like, everybody else got paid but me.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, they feel worse.

[Tim Pool]

All right, Scuba Steve says Google the fitness test for both army and the Marines. They are different standards for men and women and age. Men have to perform higher.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Well, that's not good then. If that's the case, then I'd be opposed to that.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, they brought women in the combat in 2016 through the Marine Corps, by.

[Daniel Negreanu]

The way, FYI, is he sure that statement is based on for combat specifically or just for military General?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah, it's one. It's a general test.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Are there. Are there female combat Marines there?

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

There were four in our history. There might be some today. I don't know, but I know Maria Durham was the first one back in 2017, and then there were three others, but I don't know current situation stats.

[Tim Pool]

It doesn't so here's the issue. Women have less skin collagen, less muscle density, less fast twitch muscle, less bone density, larger Q angles. Those are largely absolute regardless of whether or not you're in the higher percentile of female.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Those are all facts you weren't allowed to say three years years ago.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep, it's true.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I mean, it's crazy. You couldn't say that without being considered phobic.

[Tim Pool]

So the, the Q angle is because of the hip ratio. The femurs come at an angle, which means women are prone to ankle and, and knee injuries much more than men. So there are still women with narrower hips and all those things, but they still are going to be more prone to those injuries. So it's. And the lower center of gravity harder to carry, heavier weight, not, not likely to carry the same amount of ammunition. But if they do carry the same standard as men, they're going to burn their stamina much more quickly. There's a lot of complications. And men are. This is just evolutionary biology. Men are expendable.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Women are not.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah, but what is a man?

[Tim Pool]

I don't even know.

[Phil Labonte]

Human, Male.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Just. Let's just shout out. Maria. I'm sorry, Ms. Quant. Quarium Q U A M was the very first person infantry from the Marine Corps the past, uh, through boot camp. So shout out.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

He's labeled it.

[Tim Pool]

Anthony Johnson says U.S. army from 05 to 09 basic training was in Fort Relax in Jackson. Training company had second floor for women. And I heard their troubles in the stairwell and watched how they had another few minutes to finish a two mile run.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, another thing is women can't get along.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Two minutes.

[Phil Labonte]

Put too many women together.

[Daniel Negreanu]

That's pushing it.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so tell me this is, this is fact check me right now like Google list.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

I think it's Japanese. I'm not sure. But in one of these Asian alphabets, the symbol for. There's a symbol for woman. Actually. I'm sorry, there's a symbol for tree and if you put it next to a symbol for tree, you get trees. And if you add a third tree symbol, it means forest. If you take woman and you put it next to another woman, you get women. And if you put a third woman, you get argument.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Yeah.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

No, not joking.

[Tim Pool]

I am not joking. I am not insulting with that. So fact check that because I think it's Japanese.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

It's a lot to look up.

[Tim Pool]

And it was a viral video where a Japanese woman, an American woman who. Of Japanese. She was an American Japanese woman. She was From America, spoke English, and she was teaching people how to speak Japanese and read Japanese. I think it was Japanese. And then she shows this, and it went viral because it was hilarious. So I don't know. Fact check me.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, the kaji for woman ona. I don't know how to put three of them together, though.

[Tim Pool]

No, just. Just Google search the story.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Chinese.

[Phil Labonte]

Chinese.

[Tim Pool]

So. So an etymology in the. The Chinese characters. The traditional character for woman is the character that means quarrel or dispute. Two women. Two women symbols next to each other makes argument. There you go.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

What did you look up so fast to just find that instant I Google searched.

[Tim Pool]

Woman means argument. Chinese.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Oh, you knew Chinese. Nice.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So I think. Let me. Let me pull it up to fact check it. Oh, whoop. Disclosed on accident. There we go.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Dirty knees.

[Tim Pool]

So let's see. Where is. Where is it in here? What is this? Fork. This doesn't actually help. This doesn't explain anything.

[Phil Labonte]

Chinese.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it isn't actually. Oh, okay. Duplication of woman. Oh, interesting. But it doesn't. Oh, there you go. Wow. There it is.

[Daniel Negreanu]

Coral.

[Tim Pool]

One symbol means woman, two means dispute.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

That makes so much sense, you know?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, imagine the guy making the Alphabet.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, it's just evidence of the patriarchy and the fact that men have always.

[Daniel Negreanu]

I will. I will say this based on my own personal anecdotal evidence, but, like, you know, America gets a bad rap as being this, like, really racist nation where when I go to a lot of other places in the world, it's like sexism and racism is so much more prevalent and just accepted within the culture and ageism and different things like that. Like, I went to Korea and we were going to go to a bar, and they wouldn't let us in. And I was like. They said, 86. 86. I was like, what do you mean, 86? Like, you have to be born after 1986. There's a lot of different cultures that sort of like, it's. It's. It's far, far. Like, it pales in comparison to, like, the evolution and the. The growth we've had here in this country. You know, like, obviously, things are not perfect here, dude.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The only reason we get a better reputation is from Americans.

[Tim Pool]

You're okay.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

But from other countries.

[Tim Pool]

In Japan, in Japanese kanji, three woman symbols means noisy.

[Phil Labonte]

To your point about, like, the US Basically had an entire summer of riots and tearing apart major cities because there's perceived racism in. And the United States is among the least racist countries on Earth.

[Daniel Negreanu]

It's one of those Things that's very difficult to sort of define. Like how do you define who's more or less racist? Racist. Like how do you define yourself? Who defines himself as a racist is a very difficult quantifiable thing. So you just look at like, you know, living standards. Like in America you have a pretty diverse group of people that live in different, you know, financial socio knocks or socioeconomic tiers if you will where that's not necessarily the case in a lot of other places much like, you know, to the same degree that it is here. Yeah, so like by def. So by, by that alone you would, it would suggest that like okay listen, racism exists in a lot of different ways, both implicit, institutional and all these things. But America's I think compare it from now to 1960, we're doing a lot better is. And it's okay to like recognize that.

[Phil Labonte]

I would think we're doing better than most places racist better than every other.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

Place by the people who live here, the leftists who live here.

[Tim Pool]

That's true.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

The only donate people call us the racist. Most racist country in the world is by them, not no one else.

[Tim Pool]

All right everybody, we're gonna go to that members show so head over to timcast.com, click, click, join us, become a member to support our work directly and you can watch that uncensored show, join the Discord server, chat with like minded people and maybe even call in. Now the reality is the people who already submitted questions are gonna be calling in so you're probably too late. But hey, sign up for next time. You can follow me on X and Instagram, Timcast. And don't forget smash the like button. Daniel, do you wanna shout anything out?

[Daniel Negreanu]

Oh yeah, just you know the mania pod that me and my wife are doing. We do it every week, every Tuesday it's just the two of us and we talk about a lot of different topics. Mental health related. My wife is bipolar so she shares a lot about that. I think that you know, a lot of people, you know, especially in this country deal with that sort of stuff and you know, might get a lot out of it.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. Well it's been fun having you membership will be fun guys.

[Raymond G. Stanley Jr.]

I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr. You can follow me on X. I Raymond G. Stanley Jr. And Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Internet Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Everywhere Sir, I, I appreciate, I thought you were going to be poker fella but you know so much more than I thought and I appreciate the conversation today Mr. Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil. That remains on Twix. I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. And on 31st we have our 10th record gonna be released. Go to Spotify right now and pre save it. If you want to check out some songs, you can check out Forever, Cold, Let yout Go, no Tomorrow or Divine. They're available on YouTube, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer. And don't forget the left lanes for crime.

[Tim Pool]

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