Jimmy Kimmel FIRED, ABC Pulls Show Over Charlie Kirk Assassination Comments w/ Will Tanner

Summary

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Timcast IRL — September 18, 2025

Episode: Jimmy Kimmel FIRED, ABC Pulls Show Over Charlie Kirk Assassination Comments w/ Will Tanner
Host: Tim Pool | Panel: Will Tanner, Tate Brown, Brett Dasovic, Phil Labonte
Main Theme: The firing of Jimmy Kimmel by ABC after incendiary comments regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the ensuing repercussions for media, culture, and free speech in America.

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Episode Overview

This explosive Timcast IRL episode unpacks the story behind Jimmy Kimmel's indefinite suspension from ABC. The catalyst: controversial on-air remarks painting Charlie Kirk’s assassin as a Trump supporter, despite official findings to the contrary. Tim Pool, with guests including Will Tanner (The American Tribune), dissects media responsibility, left/right culture wars, rising political violence, and the public’s eroding trust in institutions. The team also discusses the declaration of Antifa as a terrorist organization, changing digital power structures, cancel culture hypocrisy, and how these developments signal a watershed moment for free speech and political accountability in the US.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jimmy Kimmel's Suspension: Media, Responsibility, and Narrative Warfare

• Event breakdown:
  • Kimmel, during his monologue, incorrectly characterized Charlie Kirk’s assassin as a MAGA supporter (00:37–08:33).
  • ABC and Nexstar’s swift response, citing concern about fanning political violence and community values, led to his removal (08:33–12:32).
  • Tim Pool: “You are fanning the flames of political violence in a very terrifying and dangerous way... There has to be a simmering down of temperatures, and that’s why people are getting fired, and that’s why Jimmy Kimmel got fired.” (11:21)
• Panel’s interpretation:
  • Consensus that the corporate decision–not government pressure–was primarily to protect brands and prevent further escalation.
  • Phil Labonte: “Losing sponsors and repercussions with the higher-ups at the company gets people to move. That’ll get companies to move.” (12:32)

2. Cancel Culture Comes Full Circle

• Liberal arguments examined:
  • Liberals’ previous support of cancel culture now haunts them as their own icons are targeted.
  • Tim invokes the XKCD comic about free speech, noting how the standard liberals demanded is now the one to which they are being held (19:06–20:12).
  • Tim Pool: “This is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read… you asked me not to [defend your speech], so when Jimmy Kimmel gets fired, my response is, I don’t care. I love it.” (19:06, 21:23)
• Panel notes the difference:
  • Mocking a murder is leagues above being canceled for misgendering or saying “learn to code.”

3. The Severity of Kirk’s Assassination: A Firsthand Account

• Frank Turek’s emotional recounting (23:51–30:20):
  • Gives a harrowing eyewitness perspective of Kirk's final moments, illustrating why so many view Kimmel’s comments as beyond the pale.
  • Frank Turek: “Charlie wasn’t there. His eyes were fixed… He was with Jesus already… He was killed instantly and felt absolutely no pain.” (28:47)
• Purpose:
  • Emphasizes the gravity: this isn’t a “naughty word” case, but the aftermath of murder in front of family.

4. Historic Parallels and Media Enabling Political Violence

• Will Tanner:
  • Draws on historical examples (Weathermen, Black Liberation Army, Bill Ayers) to show how the media sometimes downplays left-wing violence (32:26).
  • Warns that failing to counter or accurately report such violence emboldens radicals and erodes social order.

5. Accountability and Double Standards

• Brian Stelter’s reaction:
  • CNN frames Kimmel’s firing as an attack on “comedy” and free speech (33:32–34:35).
  • Panel highlights Stelter’s past support for Roseanne Barr’s firing, exposing a double standard.
  • Tim Pool: “You are a hypocrite and a liar and your words mean nothing.” (43:33)
• Sinclair and Others Step In:
  • Sinclair replaces Kimmel’s show with a Charlie Kirk tribute, demands apology. Example of shifting media landscape (72:29).

6. Antifa Declared a Terrorist Organization

• Trump designates Antifa abroad and at home as a terrorist group (45:34).
  • Discussion of implications for law enforcement and political strategy.
  • Phil Labonte: “Antifa are a terrorist organization. They have always been a terrorist organization. They are a revolutionary communist group.” (48:11)
• Effect on events and security:
  • Tim Pool shares that security concerns and threats from the far left have forced event cancellations (53:05).

7. Tech, Censorship, and Legacy Media’s Decline

• Shift from legacy TV to digital platforms:
  • Kimmel’s audience and ad value were already in decline; canceling him aligns with business reality (13:12, 15:50).
  • Brett Dasovic: “...everybody knows that this type of television is a dying model anyways… with 100 writers, could you not find a more palatable way? You can't, because your point is disgusting.” (13:36, 15:50)
• YouTube, Reddit, and Twitch under scrutiny:
  • Congressional hearings to address left-wing radicalization online (77:31).

8. The Conspiracy Ecosystem and Distrust in Institutions

• Conspiracy fatigue:
  • Nick Fuentes (via Tim) calls out the reflex to blame “Israel” or other actors, instead of recognizing the actual ideological and personal motivations in play (90:51).
• Institutional trust is nailed:
  • “Nobody believes the government, so they turn to conspiracies. The real conspiracy is that sometimes the government tells the truth.” (97:23, Phil Labonte)

9. Culture Wars, “Fascism,” and the Moving Goalposts

• What is fascism?
  • Tim and Will discuss how the label is weaponized against any traditionalist or centrist.
  • Charlie Kirk, a moderate conservative, is cast as “far right” by left media, showing the Overton Window’s shift (38:14).
  • Phil Labonte: “If you were a bible-believing Christian 30 years ago and you are today, you’re essentially the same guy.” (39:01)

10. Reflections and Future Implications

• Tim: “We are at a crossroads in this country. This is it.” (119:30)
• Will Tanner: “We didn't win. We were given a martyr, sadly, whose death might enable us to win by… cracking down on the people who want to kill us. You can't unify with someone who's pointing a gun at your head.” (129:20)
• Shift in digital landscape:
  • Tech companies are slowly recognizing that uncensored engagement is more lucrative—a major shift (87:27).
• Call for accountability and clarity:
  • Panel underscores the importance of honest media and consequences for incitement.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Tim Pool: “You are fanning the flames of political violence in a very terrifying and dangerous way… There has to be a simmering down of temperatures, and that’s why people are getting fired, and that’s why Jimmy Kimmel got fired.” — (11:21)

Frank Turek: “Charlie wasn’t there. His eyes were fixed. He wasn’t looking at me. He was looking past me, right into eternity. He was with Jesus already. He was killed instantly and felt absolutely no pain.” — (28:47)

Brett Dasovic: “They had 100 writers on these shows. Like when Jimmy Kimmel says, 'I said nothing that I have to apologize for,' it's like—you didn't say anything. Like, 100 writers said that and you just parroted whatever the hell you were told.” — (87:12)

Will Tanner: "Media in the 1970s did the same—covering up leftist guerrilla violence. They think they can get away with it again. Kimmel's firing is very important on that front." — (32:26)

Phil Labonte: “Antifa are a terrorist organization. They have always been a terrorist organization. They are a revolutionary communist group.” — (48:11)

Tim Pool: “This is not a question of someone saying naughty words and you felt insulted. This was an innocent man…who was murdered in front of his own children.” — (30:20)

Will Tanner: “Free speech…is not a law, it’s a culture…If you have one side that’s advocating for terrorism against the other side and celebrating murder, of course the other side’s not going to find that okay. You’re no longer part of that culture.” — (36:12)

Brett Dasovic: “This isn’t just a murder. This was a terrorist attack intended on getting conservatives to stop speaking their mind. This is… tangibly attempting to lower the temperature.” — (74:17)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:37–05:00: Tim recaps Kimmel’s comments and sequence leading to the show's cancellation
• 08:33–12:32: Explanation & condemnation of Kimmel’s mischaracterization of the assassin
• 13:12–16:05: Panel discusses business, ratings, and network motivations
• 19:06–22:05: Cancel culture hypocrisy; liberals' free speech standards flipped on themselves
• 23:51–30:20: Frank Turek’s moving eyewitness account of Kirk’s death
• 33:32–34:35: Brian Stelter’s CNN reaction; doubling down on “comedy” as a rights issue
• 45:34–53:05: Trump declares Antifa a terrorist org; fallout for political events and security
• 72:29–74:04: Sinclair replaces Kimmel with tribute, demands apology and donation
• 77:31–80:13: Tech platforms and Congressional hearings on left-wing radicalization online
• 119:30–129:20: Panel reflects on what “winning” looks like after such a tragedy

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Conclusion & Takeaway

This episode stands as a stark marker in the ongoing American culture war. The panel concludes that Kimmel’s firing is not simply a “right-wing score” but the inevitable result of decades of cultural weaponization of censorship, the normalization of political violence, and a pressing need to tamp down tensions. The tragic death of Charlie Kirk, and the media’s effort to distort its meaning, has pushed even mainstream networks and corporations toward unprecedented actions—and the designation of Antifa as a terrorist group signals a new chapter of increased accountability and scrutiny for both media and militant activists.

At a time when trust in institutions is critically low and the boundaries of acceptable public speech are under fierce contest, Timcast IRL calls for honest reporting, new standards for responsible rhetoric, and a sober reexamination of how America defines free speech — and who really benefits when the rules are bent for political advantage.

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Panel Closing Plugs

• Will Tanner: Substack — TheAmericanTribune News
• Tate Brown: X/Instagram — @RealTateBrown
• Brett Dasovic: Pop Culture Crisis (YouTube/live); X/Instagram — @BrettDasovic
• Phil Labonte: All That Remains (various music platforms); X — @PhilThatRemains

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Listener Guidance:
To follow further uncensored discussion, join Timcast IRL’s Discord or Rumble Premium for extended panel insights and community interaction.

Transcript

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[Tim Pool]

ABC has indefinitely polled Jimmy Kimmel live over comments he made about Charlie Kirk's assassination. When he painted the shooter as a MAGA conservative and everybody recoiled. This was not correct. I mean, the FBI's come out, local law enforcement's come out, the parents gave statements, they've released messages. This dude was highly motivated by leftist ideology and dating a trans person. And Jimmy Kimmel, like many of these other liberal podcasters, pushed this lie that the shooter was somehow some Trump supporting conservative. Now there's a chain of events that occurred. First, the FCC chair appears on Benny Johnson's show basically saying, you can't do this. Then we heard that Next Star, which is basically a local affiliate network, was going to pull the Kimmel show over these comments. And finally Disney stepped in and said, enough Kimmel, you are done. That's where we're at so far. Cnn, they are losing their minds. And I gotta be honest, it's hilarious. And I'm gonna explain for you exactly why it's hilarious. Using the left's own words and their own ideology which they cannot out claim they don't agree with. When they canceled and got people, when they got people fired from their jobs because some people said naughty words. And now they're all shocked that the ideology they espoused has come back for them. Now I'll admit I'm a free speech guy. I'm not going to advocate that people lose their jobs over naughty comments. However, I'm not going to defend people who are celebrating the death of a good man, a family man who was murdered in front of his own children. Sorry, go find someone else to defend you. If you don't believe in free speech and you never did, I'm done playing that game with you. Now if you're a leftist and liberal and you've consistently defended free speech, even fighting with the liberals, they wouldn't call you a leftist anyway, would they? So when they come to me and say, I thought you were for free speech. I am, but you're not. So I'm gonna hold you to the standard that you asked for. Congratulations. This is the world you've made. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a lot to break down with this because Holy crap. Plus, there is a lot of other news. The reaction from CNN is hilarious. We also have three officers shot and killed in York County, Pennsylvania. It's getting crazy out there. We'll go through all that news before we get started. However, we got some great sponsors, my friends. We've got webroot.com go to webroot.com pool shout out to Webroot for sponsoring today's show. Live a better Digital life with webroot and get 50% off when you go to webroot.compool we understand that cybersecurity is not a sexy product. However, what's better than the confidence that comes from knowing your digital life is protected from malware, ransomware, identity theft, accidental deletions, natural disasters, and more? Webroot is for your digital life. 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We've got a big show for you tonight. Lots of news and some updates and information on the Charlie Kirk assassination. Some of what we're hearing, it's, it's, you know, on the ground reporting and stories from individuals who are directly impacted. And so what I want to stress is, yeah, we're gonna gloat over Jimmy Kimmel and then I'm gonna show you a statement from a man who was there. And you are gonna understand exactly why we are outraged, why we're angered, and why the left. This is what they asked for all those years ago now coming to bite them in ers. And it's what they asked for. So again, smash the like button. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Will Tanner.

[Will Tanner]

Hey, Tim, thanks for having me on.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Will Tanner]

Yeah, so I started a company with a few business partners called the American Tribune when I was in law school and now I've turned that into what people probably know me for. I'm the Rhodesia guy on Twitter, or at least that's what a lot of people know me as. But I primarily talk about the South Africanization of America and how these twin trends of race communism and anarcho tyranny are really destroying what our ancestors built and how Western civilization as we know it is crumbling because of these trends and because of the destruction wrought by them. And so using lessons from history, primarily Rhodesia, South Africa, the Belgian Congo, which I write about on my sub stack, that's what people know me for and it's what I'm trying to teach about so that we can avoid the same fate for ourselves.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting. It'll be fun to talk about all.

[Tate Brown]

That we got Producer Tate what's going on guys? Tate Brown here, holding it down. Happy to be here guys.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's Brett. It's been a while. It's been like three weeks. I'm normally doing pop culture crisis Monday through Friday, 3pm Eastern Standard Time. But tonight let's talk politics.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello everybody, my name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains when Anti Communist and Counter Revolutionary let's get into.

[Tim Pool]

It from variety.com ABC polls Jimmy Kimmel Live indefinitely after hosts Charlie Kirk Comments Disney said it would take Jimmy Kimmel's popular late night show off its schedule indefinitely after one of the biggest owners of its TV of TV stations in the U.S. nextar Media said it intended to preempt airings of the program following remarks the host made about the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Nexstar said Wednesday that its owned and partner television stations affiliated with ABC Television Network will preempt Jimmy Kimmel Live for the foreseeable future, beginning with tonight's show. The company said it strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming and its ABC affiliated markets. In his monologue Monday night, Kimmel said that the MAGA gang was trying to score political points off Kirk's murder. Now we know this. I'm going to play the clip for you which we've got here. Daily Wire says this is why his show got pulled. Just take a listen. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to to score political points from it.

[Frank Turek]

In between the finger pointing, there was grieving.

[Will Tanner]

On Friday, the White House flew the.

[Tim Pool]

Flags at half staff which got some criticism. But on A human level, you can see how hard the President is taking this.

[Tate Brown]

My condolences on the loss of your friend, Charlie Kirk.

[Tim Pool]

May I ask her personally, how are you holding up over the last day.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

And a half, sir?

[Tim Pool]

I think very good. And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks? They just started construction of the new building. All room for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years. And it's going to be a beauty. Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief. Construction, demolition, construction. This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a four year old mourns a goldfish. Okay, that was insane. For a variety of reasons. One, trying to imply that the shooter was a Trump supporter and then mocking Donald Trump. Now I'm going to be asked, I don't think Trump actually heard what the guy said. It's loud, there's a helicopter and the guy says, how are you holding up? And Trump's just like gives a generic response, yeah, good. Look what they're doing. I don't know. Sound like he didn't hear what he had to say because Trump's made many statements about this. Now here's where it begins. Next, our media group issued this press release earlier today. Next our ABC affiliates to preempt Jimmy Kimmel Live indefinitely beginning tonight. They said Mr. Kimmel's comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse. And we do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views or values of the local communities in which we are located, said Andrew alford, president of Nexstar's broadcasting division. Continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time. And we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, respectful, constructive dialogue. Now, this also followed statements from the FCC chair on Benny Johnson's show saying, you know, that effectively, you know, you can't do things like this, right? We get some new lows of the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to. Of course, that's Kimmel's statement. And this was Brendan Carr appearing on Benny's show and they describe it as issuing threats against ABC and Disney. Now, NBC News has responded by saying that they've ABC pulled the show after the FCC threatened them as if to make it appear as though the Trump administration got Jimmy Kimmel fired, when actually this was a private business interest that did it. And I'm gonna give you a couple reasons real quick before we launch into the panel why this is likely the case. For one, I think Hassan made a great point. I didn't actually hear him say it, but it was reported in the New York Times that he was concerned about the death of Charlie Kirk because he could be next. And I think many of these television network execs, seeing the vitriol, are also concerned that if violence escalates, these people at the top of these networks, they will be docs, they will be known. Nobody wants to live that way. And so if you're running a network and you see Jimmy Kimmel say explicitly, despite the fact law enforcement has already said, here's his motivating factors, Jimmy Kimmel says now it was Trump, it was the MAGA guys. You are fanning the flames of political violence in a very terrifying and dangerous way, and mocking Donald Trump, whose friend just died over that clip, which I assume is probably out of context, or Trump didn't hear, is despicable. And I'm sure the networks, aside from being offended, were more so concerned that Jimmy Kimmel was. Was driving the temperature hotter and hotter in an extreme way. And so I think many of them are like, guys, if we don't put a stop to this and say we are not gonna tolerate political violence, it'll escalate. If we do not punish those who are dancing on the grave and demanding more or lying about this, the left will be emboldened and there will be more death. And the right will respond. There has to be a simmering down of temperatures, and that's why people are getting fired, and that's why Jimmy Kimmel got fired. But I'm curious if you guys agree and what do you think?

[Phil Labonte]

I think that that's probably about the size of it. The idea that this is because of pressure from the government, I think that that's unlikely. I don't think that Brendan Carr just making a remark is actually enough to make people move, because I feel like that there's still a sentiment where if the government says, oh, we might do this, there's still enough people that would feel like pushing back on the government is worth the, you know, it's worth the juice. Whereas if you're going to look at losing sponsors and losing, you know, people, the higher ups at the company you work for, seeing significant repercussions that'll get people to move. That'll get companies to move.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, it would be the relationship with Disney and Nexar that would be the bigger issue here than it would be Disney and the government. And for that and for the most part, what's sad is like, this will end up benefiting Kimmel in the long run because Colbert's ratings spiked after he got canceled. After his show was officially canceled. Even though he's still on the air, his contract has to run out and the most profitable aspect of his whole show right now is like, let's map.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Brett Dasovic]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Tate Brown]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Brett Dasovic]

Their YouTube views are very high and I wouldn't be surprised if they end up moving him away from terrestrial television entirely because this is dying business model. The the ratings in general for late night tbr. Me and Tate were talking about it before. The show now are heavily dependent on whether there's sports on television at all these days the ratings have been down consistently and the funny thing is, Kimmel is number two in the ratings on Late Night next to Colbert, who's already been canceled because his ratings are garbage so everybody knows that this type of television is a dying model anyways. Why would you fan the flames in something that's so incendiary right now? In a world where hi hire 100 writers to work on these shows, which is why they cost a fortune to make and they lose money on every episode. Why, with 100 writers, could you not find a more palatable way to try to get your point across? You can't, because your point is disgusting.

[Tim Pool]

I actually think, you know, as to your point about being second in ratings, we know that Colbert was costing them tens of millions of dollars per year. I think Kimmel was as well. But they didn't know how to end his contract or they couldn't end his contract.

[Brett Dasovic]

It ends next year in 2026.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. I imagine they are probably saying, we're not going to renew it, but we can't do anything right now. This pops up and now they have a morality clause exemption to terminate his contract. And I'm sure they said, let's pull it.

[Will Tanner]

In addition to what you're saying about them not wanting to be associated with this side of things from potential vigilantes, they probably don't want the DOJ or related groups to see them as part of the antifa Soros network. That could be getting rolled up or at least investigated. Because, you know, one thing you've seen on Twitter this week is the media companies, the media, cable channels being really lumped in with that whole network of NGOs, nonprofits, law firms. So this could be a way to distance themselves.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, wait, Serge, is this. Is this fact check true? So he was looking at it. It looked like it wasn't exact, like I'd seen the footage before. Basically, it was. He took an old footage of Trump being asked a question and he dubbed over the question as if he had been asked that question. It's not even the same thing. And if you watch the footage again, you probably see that it seems from a year prior, I believe. But he dubs over the question kind of poorly that the reverb kind of gives away. But yeah, you'll. I guess you can see it again.

[Tate Brown]

But wow.

[Phil Labonte]

Hold on.

[Tim Pool]

Let's play it. Yeah. See how hard the President is taking this. My condolences on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk. May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

And a half, sir?

[Tim Pool]

I think very good. And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks? They just started. So I'm trying, from what I, from what I'm understanding, when I'VE asked AI about this. From what I understand is that was from a previous clip. I don't think that's from the same thing. They just dubbed the audio. Right, Right. So I don't. That. I don't know if I believe that, man.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know, huge. I'm not. I'm not sure I would explain why it got canceled. Yeah. Like, oh, so Serge. Serge asked AI and it said that the clip of Donald Trump originally aired in 2024, and so that you. What did you ask ChatGPT this right now? Yeah, basically. I know. I asked. I asked Grock. I haven't asked any other AIs. I just. When I first heard you talk about it. So I'm trying to figure it out right now. Let's fact check that, because that sounds crazy. Yeah, came up. It's telling me is Kimmel played the 2024 clip in the September 16, 2025 monologue to mock Trump's unrelated response in a hypothetical context. But he doesn't really make it clear that it's a hypothetical context or anything like that. Like, I did remember it sparked accusations of decontextualization from conservative outlets like Fox News in the New York Post.

[Tate Brown]

So I thought I did remember seeing other White House reporters verifying that he said that, but then a lot of them are saying it was so loud and raucous in the area that there's no way Trump could have heard. Like, especially parts out with the comic.

[Brett Dasovic]

They were talking about the White House ballroom, which has been.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. I don't think.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So I have no idea. I'm. I'm just. Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

The discussion with the White House ballroom has been going on lately, though, so it's. It's hard to believe that the clip was pulled from before.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I'm. I'm currently. Oh, right. They're doing the renovations right now.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, so that. That's.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, okay. Okay. That. Cuz that seemed way crazier.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, I mean, he. I mean, the part about characterizing him as MAGA is already crazy. That's. That's something that's so verifiably proven false already, but they don't care. And that's one bridge far as it is, which is why I'm sure a lot of people believe that Disney's issue here is that he lied outright about something. Like that's a whole nother thing to edit that clip in such a deceptive way.

[Tim Pool]

I'd like to offer you all this to conservatives, I give you an argument. And to liberals, I give you your argument. Back to you. It's a comic from XKCD which the liberals waved in our faces as our friends and even our enemies were censored, despite the fact we had objections to it because people are allowed to express their opinions. And in this rather ignorant comic in which XKCD has no idea what he's talking about, liberals claimed this public service announcement. The right to free speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say. It doesn't mean that anyone else has to listen to your BS or host you while you share it. The First Amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences. If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show canceled, or get banned from an Internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated. It's just that people, the people that are listening think you're an a hole and they're showing you the door. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read and I'll tell you why. But this is what liberals stood on as they said, everybody with an offensive opinion who express it should be banned. In fact, people who said hashtag learn to code were getting banned on Twitter.

[Phil Labonte]

It's worth pointing out the context surrounding the people that are losing their jobs or being, quote, unquote, canceled. Now, is the death of an innocent man, right, A murder. And they're complaining. They're saying, oh, cancel culture is back. And if you think about the reasons that people on the right got cancels, it was because they misgendered someone. They used the wrong swear word.

[Tim Pool]

Learn to code.

[Phil Labonte]

They said they would. They were basically taunting media personalities or journalists on the Internet.

[Tim Pool]

Making fun of a journalist was grounds to be permanently banned. So now it's ridiculous. Yes, yes, I understand. And I think it's an important distinction to say people are losing their jobs for mocking the death of somebody, which shows a dramatic and violent escalation of the rhetoric. And what Jimmy Kimmel and others are doing could lead to more violence. That I completely understand. The underlying factor in these cancellations now is that a man is dead. His wife and children were there, and they watched it happen. And it is gruesome and horrifying. And we have a story from someone on the ground that I'm gonna make sure everybody understands how serious this is. But let me make one thing clear first about this liberal argument. Free speech and the First Amendment are two distinct things. The right to free speech is a principle held by a moral and virtuous people. That means they themselves will not infringe upon your right. You can speak. They'll leave you alone. The First Amendment says the government shouldn't xkcd wrongfully conflated these things because these people have no idea what they're talking about. And the last thing I will say to all the liberals that are crying about this one, I still believe in free speech. I will still defend. Defend free speech, just not for you. You know why? Because you asked me not to. You came to me and said, tim, if people say hate speech, they should be banned. And I said, I disagree with that. You said, this is the way I wanna live. And then I said, okay, fine. I will uphold your wishes for you. So when Jimmy Kimmel gets fired, my response is, I don't care. I love it. Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And if you wanna go have that argument right now, go yell at Pam Bondi. That's what everybody's doing over there, right? They're talking about what they're discussing with hate speech over there. And plenty of people are having that argument. Do you remember the case? I mentioned it today a couple of years ago. If you want to talk about the difference between what's going on right now and a couple of years ago of the guy who got fired for cracking his knuckles outside of his car door and they thought he was putting up the okay hand symbol. That's. That's. If you're comparing the two, they're not the same thing. And for people like me who do take the. The Free Speech act side of this very, very seriously, what happens is you've just bled out my desire to help you, given the fact that nobody wanted to help anybody else before.

[Tim Pool]

And now what I'm going to do for all of you, because many people are making the argument about free speech or otherwise, is going back to the conversation about the severity of the circumstances we deal with. Jimmy Kimmel falsely portrayed a mass shooter as a conservative. And now the reason that's so dangerous is that they are already trying to justify and call for more murders. And you know what? I got no problem saying? I take it personally as my name is on many of these lists. So when someone says, stop defending a mass shooter publicly and you get banned for it, I ain't gonna defend you. But so that you all really understand, and I know everybody on the right and everybody who truly knew Charlie was, they already do. But for those liberals who wanna make the argument, I have a video here from Frank Turek who is going to give you his account of what happened on that fateful day? It's five minutes. And I ask you to please just listen. And it's gonna be hard. And it was hard for me, but it was hard. It was much harder for Frank, who was actually there. And after you hear what he says, maybe you will understand why we should not be tolerating the left dance on graves and call for more death. I give you Frank Turek.

[Frank Turek]

Now, here's what Erica wants me to relate on Sunday. This is going to be the hard part, but maybe also the comforting part. Charlie Kirk was literally like a son to me. I have three sons. He was like my fourth son. My three sons are a little bit older than Charlie. He was like my fourth son. So when he was hit, if your son got hit, what would you do? What would you do? I got in the car.

[Will Tanner]

Because if.

[Frank Turek]

There was any way I could save him, I had to do something. I couldn't just take them. You guys got it. So they got him into the side of the car. It was an suv, because the SUV we took over. And I'm on one side, and there's actually some video of this. Somebody's taking video of this. I'm on one side of the car, the right side, and they're getting Charlie in. So I run over to the other side. But the guy was dragging him in is now blocking that entrance. So at that point, I run around to the back, I pop the top, the back gate open, and I jump in the back. The car lurches forward. Apparently somebody jumped in the car. So the car lurches forward. So I almost fall out of the car or the suv. Then I grab the thing and. And close it. And there's five of us in the car now. Justin's driving. Dan is up front with the. With the gps. Rick has got him. Rick's on my left, and Brian is there. And I'm coming over the back seat, and Charlie's laid out in front, just right in front of me and Charlie. So tall. We can't. We can't close the door. We drove four miles some. I don't know, it's four something miles all the way to the hospital with the door open. To this day, I don't know how Brian stayed in the car because we're just, go, go, go, go, go. We're, you know, we're trying to do. We're trying to stop the bleeding. You saw it. And I'm yelling, come on, Charlie. Come on, come on. Meanwhile, my phone is still on. My son and daughter in law are hearing this whole thing and his security team again. Justin, Dan, Brian and Rick, they love Charlie, but they were much cooler than I. I mean, they're just carrying out. They're calmly. But they're swiftly doing exactly what they were trained to do. Rick starts praying out loud. I'm praying out loud. We're yelling, come on, let's go, let's go, let's go. My son's hearing all this and we're doing the best we can to navigate traffic. This is not a highway. We're on surface streets and suddenly there's an ambulance coming toward us. And there was conversation in the car. Should we stop? We're like, no, no, just keep going. Just keep going. The doctor later said that was the right thing to do. Ambulance goes by us. We're still heading to the hospital, trying to get there. At one point somebody says, let's get there in one piece because we're just, we're cutting through intersections. You know, we're just beeping the horn. This is not a emergency vehicle. There's no, there's no lights. There's none of this. And I go, we got to start cpr. So I try and start that now.

[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Brett Dasovic]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Frank Turek]

Charlie wasn't there. His eyes were fixed. He wasn't looking at me. He was looking past me, right into eternity. He was with Jesus already. He was killed instantly and felt absolutely no pain. That's what I was told later. But of course we had to try. And by the way, there was just nothing, nothing any of us could do about it. We were giving him cpr, but nothing was happening. It wasn't like if we had better first aid or we had better medical facilities or we were faster to the hospital, we could have saved him. We couldn't. So if that's any comfort at all, Charlie didn't suffer. He was gone. He was with Jesus, absent from the body, present with the Lord. That's where he was.

[Tim Pool]

Now.

[Frank Turek]

It is true. When we got to the hospital and they started working on him right away, they did get a pulse back. And so Rick and I were just. Everyone's praying. We're just praying for a miracle. We had a small sliver of hope. And the doctor later said that.

[Tim Pool]

We.

[Frank Turek]

Got a pulse because Charlie was a very healthy man. But the shot was catastrophic. So 20 or 30 minutes later, the surgeon came out and said he was dead.

[Tim Pool]

I hope people hearing that story and that account of what happened understand why we are not playing any games. This is not a question of someone saying naughty words and you felt insulted. This was an innocent man who asked for speech and debate, who was moderate politically. And it's funny when these liberals are like, this is moderate. And they show him saying things like, no abortion should be allowed. And I'm like, have you met a Christian ever in your life? That's the middle of the road Christian position. There are some Christians who are like, we should like have prison and jail for people, get abortions, like even the women. And Charlie was a moderate on this issue and he was murdered in cold blood by a lunatic. And it sounds like with the FBI currently investigating some of these terror groups, these anti vercels, that there may be more people involved. We don't know. It's been reported that he was a lone shooter. The messages seem to convey that, but nobody really believes those messages. And we don't know exactly, but it was reported earlier today that I believe they did bring in. I gotta fact check this one. But this was relayed to me by some, I'll just call it security and law enforcement professionals. That they have brought in individuals associated with the discord for questioning. And I'll fact check that one. So Jimmy Kimmel coming out and saying the shooter was maga, when you have stories like this and the severity of what we're dealing with is one of the most insane and dangerous things you could possibly do. And I will stress, I don't want to see people lose their jobs, having bad opinions. But I will also stress Jimmy Kimmel being able to go onto his show to several million people and lie to them about the state of politics in this country is driving the political violence. And that's just it. So when the network says you insulted a man grieving his friend, you claimed and lied. Now think about what that does to ABC when they have to issue a retraction because it was false, egregiously false. They don't want to do that either. They could. They're going to be facing some suits, who knows what. So they said, that's it, we're done. Not to mention his show is probably losing money. But I hope people, you know, I apologize for people who maybe didn't want to hear that story, but I think it's very, very important. Everybody did.

[Will Tanner]

Well to your point about violence and what's going on, what Kimmel was trying to do there is what the media did in the 70s with the Weathermen, with the Family, particularly with the Black Liberation army where you have these leftist Marxist radicals who are murdering dozens of people, planting bombs, blowing up buildings. And the media is claiming either it's not happening or we don't know what their motives are. We don't know if they're an organized group, which is of course what they've said about Antifa as well. And it's this attempt to cover up this leftist insurgency, proto guerrilla movement that's happening inside America and is extremely dangerous and violent. And the Weathermen were never dealt with. Chesa Boudin, who was one of the top people in the Ren Collective and really helped Soros push this soft on crime policy all over America. He's the son of Kathy Boudin who helped murder someone during an armed car robbery and never really faced justice for it other than some time in prison. Similarly, Obama's mentors, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, Weathermen never face jail for bombings. They think they can get away with it this time, like they got away with it for a decade in the 70s and that can't be allowed to happen. So I think Kimmel's firing is very important on that front.

[Tim Pool]

Let's take a listen to. We got this from Mediaite. America is a less free place. Brian stelter aghast at ABC's chilling decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel. They don't learn their lesson. Listen to this. Truly dropped as I think a shock.

[Brett Dasovic]

To anybody who heard it.

[Tim Pool]

Even if they knew that Brendan Carr.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

The pro Trump chief of the fcc.

[Brett Dasovic]

Had made the comments he made on that podcast.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think there's anybody who literally.

[Brett Dasovic]

Thought within hours Jimmy Kimmel would be gone.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

Absolutely right.

[Tim Pool]

In fact, this was very sudden this afternoon after Carr spoke out on that far right podcast. Then some stations that are far right podcast. Benny Johnson, again, moderate conservative, owned by other companies but affiliated with abc, started to complain to abc. We know one of them, nexstar, which has about two dozen stations with the ABC logo and all the ABC programming. Nexstar publicly announced that they were going to drop Kimmel's show indefinitely. Within a matter of minutes, we heard from Disney that the show was being pulled all together.

[Brett Dasovic]

That suggests to me that other station.

[Tim Pool]

Owners were probably also getting scared. Other station owners were probably also coming up with backup plans not to air Kimmel's show. But even though we're talking about comedy, this is so serious comedy America is a less free place if late night comedians cannot do and say what they want. I want to just stress and let's take a pause real quick and we can issue some commentary on this. We all know what Jimmy Kimmel did. He lied about the motivations of the shooter, which creates a shield for the shooter. When the liberals come out and say he was actually a conservative or from a conservative background and the bolts never were engraved with anything and he wasn't this. And they are what they are doing when they lie about the shooter, when they, when they lie about Charlie and issue fake quotes, they're effectively saying to the liberal who watches CNN or Kimmel who is scared that the values that they've supported have led to a death, they're telling you, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't be upset over this. Charlie was a very, very bad man. And don't worry, the shooter was actually a Trump supporter. Keep on doing what you're doing, which resulted in this shooting. That's why it needs to stop.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, I mean, to Will's point, they're just completely flabbergasted that they're actually in an environment where you can get held accountable for this kind of stuff. Because the way, the way like Brian's presenting it is like that the right's like settling scores right now. Like, that's the way he's presenting it. And that's just not at all what's happening. Because we saw like Frank City. We, we understood, understand the magnitude of what happened on Wednesday. They don't, they think that this is just, just some flippant thing that we're freaking out over. And so it's like, yeah, they're, they're just not, they're just so confused that they can actually be held accountable for this. I mean, nonsense they're spewing.

[Will Tanner]

Well, and on the point of being held accountable, free speech, as Tim was saying earlier, is really, it's not a law, it's a culture. And it's. As a culture, it's a set of duties and responsibilities. So if you have one side that's advocating for terrorism against the other side and celebrating murder, of course the other side's not going to find that. Okay. You're no longer part of that culture because you've intentionally distanced yourself from it for temporary political advantage or to support something far more awful than that, which is what they're now doing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

If you look at what it looks like when you look at all the people that were treating the situation the way they were, the people that were saying awful things about Charlie, the people that were celebrating his death, there was people who were talking about the Gen Z aspect of it, the young people on Tik Tok who are doing so. But then you have the group of the aging boomers and the Gen Xers who do still find this type of television relevant, who find this lie very easy to swallow because it reaffirms their worldview and it keeps them, it absolves them of any guilt that they may feel. And you can't change the culture and you can't find people away to a better understanding of one another. If you can't even trust either group to be honest with one another about what's going on.

[Phil Labonte]

All you have to do is listen to what the pundits were saying and you know where they stand. Right. So Aaron Burnett said. I think it's Aaron Burnett.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Said Trump aligned fcc.

[Tim Pool]

You never heard anyone, you never heard.

[Phil Labonte]

Anyone say, obama aligned fcc.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, to be fair, you do hear people say Obama appointed judges, Obama appointee.

[Phil Labonte]

But for the most part, the only time that's mentioned is if it's in the context of something that is actually partisan. This isn't Partizan, Jim. Yeah, like Jimmy Kimmel said something terrible about a dude that was murdered and then the same thing with, with Brian Selter. He was like, he calls Benny Johnson far right. Anyone that doesn't, you know, that's to the right of the bulwark, which is essentially center left now is considered far right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Will Tanner]

Ridic.

[Brett Dasovic]

They never give you an example of what the appropriate level of right.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, because there is no appropriate level of.

[Tim Pool]

And this is where it broke down for them. Because Charlie Kirk was middle of the road conservative, like moderate conservative. He was almost like he's, he's just a conservative. There's nothing. And he holds traditional religious opinions. So what the meme started coming out was when they claimed it was the further right that killed him, even though he was already the far right. There were memes of people on the left. You go to threads and they're saying, you mean there's a further right group worse than Charlie Kirk? And everyone's like, is this a joke? Yeah. And it's because that's the world they live in. Watching garbage like CNN now, I'll just say this, it is Colin Wright's meme personified. The right hasn't really moved and, and the left has gone so far off the deep end.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Centrists are now right wing to these people. Benny Johnson is far right. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean if you were, if you were a bible believing Christian 30 years ago and you're a Bible believing Christian today, you're essentially the same guy.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. They've moderated. They're Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk said gay people should be welcome in his movement.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like this is in.

[Phil Labonte]

But for the most part, I mean, like there were always Christians that said, look, you hate the sin, not the sinner. So you don't hate gay people, you hate their lifestyle or you hate that they're, they're having their, their sodomites or whatever you want to call them. But the fact of the matter is there were always people that were, look, we can be around them, we can talk to them, we can treat them as, as we can be friendly with them. We can treat. You want to be polite, you want to be nice because you want them to feel like they can come out of the lifestyle that they're in and come to Christ.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

That was, that was the argument.

[Tim Pool]

And I agree. However, the mainstream position even 15 plus years ago from the conservatives was we won't accept gay marriage. And many people who are middle of the road, moderate or default libs switched to Trump when the choice was Hillary or Trump because Trump was actually more socially liberal. Trump unfurled a pride flag on stage at the rnc. And a lot of middle of the road people were like, I can vote for that now. Trump created a big tent party where moderate and dispected liberals said, Hillary's nuts. Trump's the right answer. Charlie Kirk famously argued with people saying that gay people should be welcome in their movement. And there's one video that's got millions of views where he tells a young gay man, I don't judge you and you shouldn't judge yourself and introduce yourself based on the actions, what you do in private. It should be about, are you a good person and will you come to Christ? Will you be a better person? That is a more moderate, more socially liberal position than in the past. And they called Charlie a homophobic, homophobic bigot. Far right. If he's far right, imagine what Republicans were 10 years ago. Now they're pretending like they don't get it.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, I think Charlie's policy package that he presents is probably the most. It's probably the plurality of Americans, I think that's fair to say. Like traditional, conservative, evangelical, these sorts of things. And yeah, they're saying that puts a target on your back, like full stop. That's what they've declared.

[Will Tanner]

Well, in the target on your back part is extremely important to go back to antifa. Some of the armed factions related to it, like the John Brown Gun clubs. Why do they call themselves John Brown Gun Clubs? Why do they continue to push this far right. You're super racist message. Like Jasmine Crockett saying ISIS slave patrols recently.

[Tim Pool]

It's because. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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Honestly, Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new Family Freedom offer.

[Tim Pool]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

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[Tim Pool]

Bon voyage.

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[Will Tanner]

They have very dire things in your future that they want to do to you. And you can see it. That's why they glorified John Brown. If you look at who he killed, the Doyle family, they had nothing to do with slavery.

[Tim Pool]

You know, we should have done, and I apologize for this, we should have pulled up Brian Souther's reaction to Roseanne getting fired because how much you want to bet he was like, well, you can't be a racist and a bigot. Too bad. And now he's like, no, he's effectively fanning the flames of violence and justifying murder.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, this is just what, like, for somebody like me who, like, when all of this started, I had to kind of have that discussion with myself about how I feel about it because I do tend to err on the side of like, look. And I understand the conservative argument, right? It's like it doesn't matter if they're going to use it against you later because they already used against you before. You need to exercise the power when you have it. And I understand that. But because that's not, you know, I don't fall in conservative circles. It just, that's never lined up for me. But then I look at the way that these people have behaved. I look at doctors, lawyers, nurses, people educating your children, dancing on the GR of someone. And I'm like, take the politics out of it. Remove it from entirely. Is this a person I would want to be spending any time with? Am I supposed to go to bat for somebody that abhorrent? And I've got about 10,000 other things in my life I have to finish first. And then I'll get to that.

[Tim Pool]

Let me just say I did. It took me two seconds. Brian Stelter said, excuses, excuses, excuses. That's what's happening. We are seeing Barr trying to say she's sorry, trying to apologize, but then in the next breath she's making excuses. Blame this on liberal media double standard, saying she is the real victim. Here is the sense of how he got here with his head spinning 24 hours. So this is CNN.com transcripts of about Roseanne Barr. And it took me two seconds to find the transcript. So sure. But Barr undermining our own apology with a torrent of retweets from fans portraying her as a victim of a liberal double standard. The comedian also retweeting a number of fake and offensive posts, including the fake, this fake yearbook quote claiming Jarrett wanted to change America to be More like an Islamic country. Also later deleted. Jared is taking the high road. Responding to Barr's initial tweet on Tuesday. Thank you, Brian Stelter, how terrified were you that Roseanne Barr posted a dumb joke on Twitter and got fired over it? No. You are a hypocrite and a liar and your words mean nothing. But you know what? It was bad that people got fired for jokes. It was worse that people got fired for jokes they made 10 years ago. It is extremely terrifying when young men are gunned down in cold blood and then Jimmy Kimmel lies about it, other liberals lie about it, they call for more, they dance on his grave and they put out lists with people's names on it. Again, very personal because my names are on those lists. My name's on that list as well. So. So, so, Brian, maybe you need to take a step back and go to confession or something very real. Yeah, indeed. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we do have massive breaking news from Truth Social. Donald Trump has has deemed Antifa a terrorist organization. He has. He has Truth. I am pleased to inform our many USA Patriots that I'm designating Antifa a sick, dangerous, radical left disaster as a major terrorist organization. I will also be strongly recommending that those funding Antifa be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Let's, let's go.

[Tate Brown]

Let's go. Yeah, this is, this is exactly what needed to happen. Dude, we have so many options now that now that Antifa has been declared a terrorist organization, this opens up a war chest of options to really go at the throat here.

[Tim Pool]

Now what are you talking about?

[Brett Dasovic]

It's a decentralized group.

[Tim Pool]

They don't have a leader. You know, you know, my favorite thing was that famous clip where Trump is debating Biden and he says, you know, antifa, antifa. And then Biden goes antifa as an idea. The real threats, white supremacy. White supremacy is an idea to you, moron. Antifa is an international association. They fly a banner, they have chapters, right? They have cells with merch.

[Brett Dasovic]

You can't say you're not a group and have merch. Those are mutually exclusive ideas, like bumper stickers.

[Tim Pool]

So let's try and get as. Let's clarify as much as we can. There are antifa cells. They fly the banner. They have a shared flag. But these groups are specific. So they'll call themselves like insert city Antifa or something. Banner Antifa. And the generic term Antifa refers to their ideology and loose knit set of ideals and where they band Together. But flying the flag is intended to make them a singular group, meaning if an Italian antifa guy comes to the United States and has the patch, it is easily recognizable to somebody United States. And if a riot breaks out, they know how to coordinate because they share tactics. So if you can't designate that an international terrorist organization, literally, what can you? Are we going to pretend that it's not really isis? Because the guy only pledged to ISIS and was practicing what they preached and their tactics. But he never actually went to Syria to meet with them. No, he's flying their banner. It is a group and there are cells all over the. All over the world. So some have argued you can't create domestic terror organizations. And that is that my understanding is true. Some have said I'm wrong, but it doesn't matter. Antifa is international. They are a foreign terror organization with US cells and chapters. And it's about time these people face the consequences of their actions because for a better part of a decade, longer than that, because I've been experiencing it since the. Since the Occupy protests. They use similar tactics, they have a similar ideology, they get funded. Where the money comes from is. I'm curious. And they engage in violence to suppress people's rights and shut down free speech. You may not like the proud boys, you may not like patriot prayer, but a bunch of right wingers with American flags walking down the street never bothered anybody. You want to get mad about rioters of the American flags, by all means. But patriotic Americans walking down the street with American flags is totally legal and protected. And the far left throwing bricks, throwing firebombs. That was always illegal. And it's time for games to stop.

[Phil Labonte]

This is exactly what I've been calling for when I say the federal government needs to do something about terrorism in the United States. Antifa are a terrorist organization. They have always been a terrorist organization. They are a revolutionary communist group. Usually communists, sometimes. Sometimes there'll be some anarchist like anarcho communists in there, but they're still communists at their core. And that honestly, the distinction about anarcho communist versus regular communists, that's all. It's a distinction without a difference because they end up being communists at the end of the day. Well, they're not really. They don't want no government. They want a government that tells everybody to be the type of communist.

[Tim Pool]

I actually really, really love this political compass distinction. It's important for everybody. Libertarian communists do exist. It's a real thing. There's like three of them and they live on a farm. And you've never heard of them and you'll never see them. Why? Because they all, all they do is live on a farm. And it's what a libertarian communist does. They walk up to their room and go, hey, my watermelons are ripe. Did you want to share some? Sure, man. And then afterwards we'll do the dishes together. And they don't bother anybody and nobody cares. In fact, there are some small communes in the United States where they have like 20 to 100 members and they don't bother anybody because they mind their own business. They have little hippie dippy farms.

[Brett Dasovic]

It breaks down after about 100 people.

[Tim Pool]

It does. It literally does. That's why the most well known libertarian commune has only 100 people and they won't allow any more.

[Brett Dasovic]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And only when someone leaves does the waitlist open up for the next person to come in there.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, I've heard that, like once you get past 100 members of anything like that, it starts to break down.

[Tim Pool]

And so what you actually end up with in these cities are people claiming they're libertarian socialists or libertarian or anarcho communists. And then they firebomb a police car. And you're like, yeah, Let me just explain something. When you use threat of death to enforce your ideology, that's authoritarian, okay? Not anarcho. When the hippie goes on the farm and says, come hang out if you want, that's libertarian. And no one cares because nobody even knows these people exist. I go to conservatives and they're like, there's no such thing as. I said, no, no, no. Trust me. There's just like three of them. I've met them. They're chill, they're all right, they're smoking pots somewhere. I don't dig their lifestyle, but they leave me alone. The people in the streets with batons and clubs and firebombs, they were always the tankies.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And so it's good that they've. That he's, you know, assigned them a terrorist organization.

[Tim Pool]

Well, real quick, I imagine tomorrow it'll be an executive order of some sort.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure, I would assume so as well. I don't imagine that there will be international drone strikes, but. Or drone strikes in other countries or anything like that. But I do think that the FBI should start actually tracking down people that put up videos with their. That they're flying the antifa flag. If they're, you know, making comments about anti fascist, blah, blah, blah, the federal government should start knocking on their doors just because it chills behavior. It's not about wrapping up people for speech. But if they're, if they're involved with an actual terrorist organization, which Antifa is, and 2020 was evidence of that, they had been. They rioted all summer, they destroyed properties. They were doing everything they could to intimidate people. They were literally getting in people's faces, demanding that people say, you know, black Lives Matter. Go and find those people and start asking them if they are involved in terrorist activities, if they plan their plans. And you will see a significant drop in people that are actually going to say things like, Charlie Kirk deserved it.

[Tim Pool]

And then you can go to Berkeley and set up a little table and say, let's have a conversation and no one will smash it and no one will throw rocks at you. And that is the crazy thing about this country today is I can already hear the liberals going, it's happening.

[Frank Turek]

Trump is saying that if you oppose.

[Tim Pool]

Fascism, you're a terrorist. And it's like, bro, I just watched a video. I think it was Cam Higby who is like saying, he's got like a sign up saying no one should die for their opinions. And a guy comes and attacks him. And I'm like, the problem isn't the guy minding his own business? Okay, you guys are criminals. You are fascists. And Trump is saying, stop, stop doing that. But more importantly, I don't, I honestly, I don't care if someone flies a banner of whatever they want to fly. Free speech. Seriously. I mean, the question is, if people are saying they're aligned with this, I believe that's enough cause to investigate whether they're providing material support to violent, to violent terrorist groups. Now, if you want to say they shouldn't be called terrorists, literally, I don't care what your argument is. If they are engaging in violence against other people for the purpose of suppressing their, their speech or ability to engage in American democracy, then they are terrorists. And so if, could you imagine if someone went on like, say, Piers Morgan and said, if you wanted your friend to live, you shouldn't have voted for Donald Trump? Yeah, yeah. Imagine if something like that happened. Imagine if they. So I'm going to say this. Oh, I'm always. What?

[Phil Labonte]

I just. You, you mentioned, you mentioned that. And destiny never has never flown like antifa flags. And I'm bummed that, you know, isn't gonna wrap them up.

[Tim Pool]

But anyways, so we can't. So we had a security assessment today and I actually do have a story from Variety about this. I gave them a big long quote. We did initially cancel the college event that I was gonna be doing. Cause I had actually reached out to Charlie some time ago, and I said, you know, I'll paraphrase. But I was like, dude, this is awesome, what you were doing. I'm a huge fan of this. I would love to do things like this. I saw what he was doing, how effective it was, and I was like, man, I wish I could be like Charlie and I could do this, too. And. And he responded with, let's. Let's get to it. Let's make it work. So we're both busy guys. You know, we're working out what we're doing with Amfest. Whatever's gonna go on. I'm not entirely sure yet, but I did organize with Alex Stein one of these events, and we canceled that. We canceled that. That was gonna be on the 11th. We were going to Penn State. We are not anymore, because our security team cannot secure it. And so we actually canceled the Culture war live events as well. I decided, no, these are indoors. Let's do it. Well, unfortunately, we had a security assessment, sat down with my security once again, and they said, we cannot secure this event. It's up to you and I. So then I talked to my wife, we discussed it, and we were like, we. Right now, we can't do it. So I want to stress this why this is so important that Trump is taking action against these terrorists. I don't think it will stop the violence right now. I think maybe in the future we can stem the bleed, as it were, figuratively, meaning it will only get worse if nothing is done. But at least for now, we may pull out of this tailspin because of these people. You know, they got our vent. The venue canceled on us the first time we did this because of threats, because of threats of terror. And we pushed back, and they brought our event back, and only three people showed up to protest. Now, because of the death threats, one crazy person, we can't secure the event. And so for at least the time being, we were told we. We cannot provide meaningful security, which prevents a few problems. Everyone's going to respond with, tim, be brave. Don't let them stop you. Tell that to the insurance company. When the security assessors say, we can't provide security, and the insurance company says, we won't insure your event, and then the venue says, without insurance, you can't have one. That's not happened just yet because we are voluntarily saying we. We're going to. This is what we've typically dealt with with insurance for events, the things that you need in order to make them happen. And we just said, listen, it's not even just about that. I don't want to make it seem like an insurance company came to us and shut us down. I'm saying that's just a major component. We think being unable to secure it and a challenge to whether or not we're gonna be able to afford the insurance means we should probably wait. And so I don't know exactly what's going to be happening with. Happening with this. There's also the trip to Arizona, which I mentioned the other night, which I don't know exactly what's going to be happening, but I'm being told right now to buy a wig. I'm not kidding. Buy a wig, get a polo shirt and some. And some cargo shorts and sunglasses if you want to go to Arizona. And I'm like, I don't know that I can live like this. Now. I get it. Big celebrities. Bigger than like, I'm. Who am I? I'm some guy on the Internet who complains, you know, Brad Pitt walks down the street, he's got to deal with that stuff. I get it. But the issue right now is there is a series of death threats that are. That we have forwarded, I believe, to the FBI. I'm pretty sure it's our security team did. Threatening to murder me and calling for others to murder me as well. This is why I look at this and I say, good. These people who go online and are telling me I can't speak. And you know what's funny? I'm to the left of Charlie and they're telling even me I should be murdered. Something has to be done about this. I fear with this action from Trump, we will still face some degree of escalation. The left response immediately following this, because that been 20 minutes ago, they're going to say Trump just made it illegal to. To oppose fascism. That's what they will say. That's what they're going to say. I'll just say this. I have never faced any threats from gripers. They call. They make memes about me. They make a meme where I've got the Jewish things coming down the braids or whatever.

[Will Tanner]

I don't.

[Tim Pool]

They're called. And what is it? Payas. And it's me saying the goyim found out or something like that. I don't know. That's the worst thing they've done to me. Yeah, they've been like, you like Israel? And I'm like, bro, what are you talking about? That's it. The left sends me death threats all the time. All the time. We have these creepos and so I'm just, I'm. My family is stressed, I'm stressed and we want it to be done with. And hopefully this pulls us out of the tailspin and puts a stop to a decade plus, maybe 15 years or more of extreme violence from far left deranged lunatics who are given protection.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, the protection is the worst part too because for a long time I think to the general public, people who don't follow politics very, very closely when they think of domestic terrorism, they don't think of it as a left wing concept. They think of it as almost entirely a right wing idea, despite the fact that they can't really give you modern examples of what that actually looks like. But they don't know about the black bloc. They don't know about anti or even.

[Tim Pool]

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[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

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[Tim Pool]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

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[Tim Pool]

Bon voyage.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Brett Dasovic]

What you were talking about in the 70s or any of those types of events that have transpired. And there needs to be a change around understanding where that type of terroristic threat is coming from in this country.

[Will Tanner]

You know, and to talk about where it's coming from, this is particularly important, the labeling them as terrorist organizations. Because that's not just how you go after the foot soldiers like the John Brown Gun Club or Antifa or Black Block. It's how you go after the second and third tier people who are backing this and making it continually happen and providing them with the resources where they can continue doing these illegal things with near impunity. I mean to go back to the 70s, they got away with it because they had champagne socialists and people like that giving them the best lawyers, providing them with the best things. The city and state governments were often on their side, like Mayor Lindsay in New York City. Now that situation has more or less been repeated with these huge funds providing the lawyers, the media help, the personalities, everything it can do. This helps shut that down because now you can investigate those people and make sure they no longer have these huge amounts of resources to just break the law and go after us.

[Tate Brown]

Well now, I mean big beautiful bill, the DHS got an additional 165 billion. So they have some new toys I think that they're looking to implement here with this new terrorist organization. You're going to need a lot of resources to get to the bottom of this. This is a huge network in this.

[Tim Pool]

I, I got an idea for all the liberals and leftists in the far left out there. Get a little folding table from Walmart, buy a big piece of like whiteboard and write on it, Donald Trump is a fascist, change my mind, tape it to the table, sit down politely university with a microphone and have peaceful conversations and win your argument. There's a really funny meme I saw earlier. Not meme, but like a tweet. There is no Charlie Kirk analog on the left. There is no left liberal, far left personality who has an open platform in public and says, come and challenge my ideas and I will and I will prove myself right. Because all of them know they are wrong and that's why they engage in violence. You do not shoot and kill a man who you've easily defeated in an argument. And I think it was George R.R. martin in game of Thrones said, when you tear out a man's tongue, you don't prove him wrong. You simply show the world you fear what he Might say, so when they killed Charlie Kirk, what would. What were they admitting? He's right and we can't win.

[Will Tanner]

Well, they say they're against fascism. Can any of them define. Fascism is like, no one on earth can.

[Phil Labonte]

Fat can define fascism, like, at all. Like, they're just like, oh, it's my dad.

[Tate Brown]

Mainstream.

[Frank Turek]

No, no liberal.

[Tim Pool]

Can. You talk the most conservative. And they'll give you the basic breakdowns of what fascism is. Right. There's a few different views. One is the lucrative merger of corporation and state.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's the one I was always.

[Tim Pool]

The corporation basically follows in lockstep what the state wants it to do, effectively creating a totalitarian system where it's not communism. The state isn't telling you where you have to work or what you have to do. But businesses only function for the purpose of the state. However, there's an easier ways to describe it because these economic functions vary from country to country. It was totalitarian traditionalism. That's. It was. It was an authoritarian structure with a traditionalist bent. And communism was authoritarian or totalitarian progressivism. The communists wanted to erase all history and make you live in these equal little boxes. And the fascists were like, restore the natural order. So they were the two extreme ends of traditional or progressive. They call you a fascist because you hold some traditional values, which is psychotic. You can be a liberal and not a commie. You can be a conservative, not a fascist. That's just that simple. To them, literally every conservative is a fascist. And any. Any, I guess, apostate of liberalism, even if you're not conservative, is still a fascist. Yeah. So they've lost the plot.

[Tate Brown]

Tim gives that eloquent breakdown, going to the nitty gritty of the ideologies. And then you ask a liberal and they just describe, like, a Southern Baptist.

[Phil Labonte]

My dad. Yeah, my dad. My dad tells me I can't do things. That's fascist. That's why I don't like my dad. That's fascism. The point that. That you made Tay earlier, going for the organizations that fund, you know, the NGOs, and going after them was. It was you. They made it. Yeah, okay. Sorry about that. But that's going to be the thing that really pays off. Right? That's the. That's where you're going to really get the most bang for your buck because it's easy to take care of the crazies on the streets that are going to throw bricks because they're crazy crazies. They're gonna look for a reason to. To, you know, get Buck wild or whatever. If there's a riot, they're gonna go out there. If they've got someone that, that eggs them on, then they'll do something. But they're kind of crazy. They're people that are, you know, they're loose cannons. They're people that don't have a whole lot going on in their life. And so they go and they're like, I don't mind throwing a rock through the window because if I get put in jail, I don't care. I'm not. I don't really have plans for my life.

[Tate Brown]

But I made the point on the show. I think it was Friday. I was like, the only thing, the only distinction between these mainstream pundits and the people that are throwing bricks through that. Throwing bricks through. Just have nothing to lose.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Like these pundits, they had the exact same ideology. They just have a little more skin in the game.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think that the people that are throwing bricks really have a whole significant grasp on the ideology. They're a little.

[Brett Dasovic]

They're.

[Phil Labonte]

They're the ones that are a little more on the anarcho side.

[Tate Brown]

Sure.

[Phil Labonte]

And, and they have less. They have a less coherent worldview than the organizers that use them.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Will Tanner]

They hate beauty because it exists. They hate because it exists.

[Tim Pool]

I want to. Yeah, I want to. We've got a little bit more news on the Jimmy Kimmel thing. Here's a really great sentence for you. When asked by the Hollywood Reporter, the source said that Kimmel was not planning on apologizing. He felt that what he said did not require an apology. That's why he got shut down.

[Brett Dasovic]

So he lied and doesn't feel that his lie requires an apology.

[Tim Pool]

Yep, indeed. And so, yeah, this is the. The latest development on the matter. We have other big news from Variety. South park delays new episode hours ahead of air time because craters didn't get it done in time. They say apparently when you do everything at the last minute, sometimes you don't get it done. This one's on us. We didn't get it done in time. Thanks to Comedy Central and South park fans for being so understanding. Tune in next week. I'm going to tell you what really happened. And it's just my opinion, but the south park episode. South Park's been doing this for how long? What, 30 years?

[Brett Dasovic]

30 years?

[Tim Pool]

Have they ever missed an episode?

[Brett Dasovic]

I think that there's a couple of rare examples, but it doesn't matter. This is.

[Tim Pool]

They don't issue statements. Statements.

[Brett Dasovic]

This is a well oiled machine. And you don't just show up the day of the. First of all, there was supposed to be a teaser yesterday that never came out. You don't just show up the day and like, the head of Paramount calls you and is like, where's the episode? Sorry, boss, I just didn't get it done.

[Tim Pool]

That's.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's not how it happens.

[Tim Pool]

I believe, and I think it's as affair as husband. And I think you'll all agree south park was planning to do an episode that was overtly political, likely about Trump. And there's a variety of things that. It may have included Cartman as Charlie Kirk again, Donald Trump doing something that put his life in danger. They may have. It may have been as simple as the Trump character gets hit by a car or something. And then Paramount was probably like, no way. Absolutely not.

[Brett Dasovic]

And there's. There's a huge history of television shows that have moved episodes around because of. I mean, this was happening unfortunately, a lot during the early 2000s because of school shootings. And television shows would run episodes with dramatized versions of this and that. And then they would have to move it a month and they'd have to release a statement that said, you know, it coincided with real world events. We're sorry, you know, we had to move it down the line. But in today's day and age, you know, this. It's a whole different ballgame now.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they pulled. They shouldn't have pulled the first episode. Some people have said that they're responsible. I have seen some people tweet that. But the idea that the majority of Trump supporters are anyway mad at south park, they were celebrating. It was like, like putting Charlie Kirk in South park was, Was. Was basically the victory flag on top of the mountain.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, it was, it was an affirmation of his impact culturally. Just because south park portrayed him as someone they disagreed with doesn't mean that it. He didn't have. It wasn't a massive compliment to even put him in there. You don't get on in south park unless you have an impact on society.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, he made it his profile picture.

[Tim Pool]

He did.

[Tate Brown]

It was funny.

[Brett Dasovic]

He did what Kristi Gnome was supposed to do before somebody wisened her up, which she was mad at. First park portrayed her, and then somebody in the know is like, yeah, that's not going to work for you if you pretend. Like if you show them that you're mad, they're just going to go even harder at you. So then she, like, I don't know if she deleted that tweet. But then she changed her mind and like, made it her profile picture because she under somebody in her camp understood. They're like, it will get worse for you if you're actually upset by this.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and I just remember like beginning passer on Twitter and everyone on the right was like, yeah, this is pretty funny.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, it's like a little tacky, but it's funny. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, the. The episode you guys. Did you guys watch it?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He's debating as if he's Charlie Kirk. And he's actually just giving Charlie Kirk's opinions for the most part. Where he's like, why? He's like sitting there drinking the water and he's like, why isn't a fetus a baby? Why? Why? And then baby can't answer and he's like, okay.

[Brett Dasovic]

The worst part about it is, like, then you draw in the media literacy crowd who's like, they're making fun of you because they do that. They did that with the media literacy. The worst people on the Internet is the person who says that you can't like something because you don't understand it. Just block them. They're the worst people.

[Tim Pool]

Like, Charlie doesn't understand he's being made fun of.

[Brett Dasovic]

Cartman's the bad guy. So. Yeah, they don't care.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

They were doing that when they were doing the Kathleen Kennedy one. You know, put a chicken it and make it gay.

[Tim Pool]

That.

[Brett Dasovic]

That. They're like, yeah, you don't get that Cartman's the bad guy. So they're making funny. It's like, we don't care.

[Tim Pool]

They don't care.

[Brett Dasovic]

And you're the one who's the drag on society if you think that I have to interpret whatever media you're talking about in the way that you see it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

They're like, I. You know, they're making fun of, like, really?

[Tim Pool]

They are. That's cool. I. For the first time, literally, I want to stress, we don't actually know what happened with the south park episode. They just said they didn't get it done in time again.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's my. The dog ate my homework. Nobody buys that.

[Tim Pool]

It's indeed. It's where they should have. Statement. Yeah. Cuz haven't they missed weeks this season?

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, they could have just released a rerun and they did that all the time.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, there. There was a. I mean, they hadn't.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, they. I don't know if they had to release a statement, but they have a schedule that they have to keep to so I've been a point of interest for a couple of hours.

[Tim Pool]

All I know is everyone, like a couple weeks ago, after the Charlie Kirk thing came out, people were like, isn't that new south park supposed to come out this week? And then everyone shrugged because it didn't. And I'm like, I have no idea. They could have said nothing and people would have been like, yeah. Oh, but I guess when you're getting paid $30 million. So I think the strong probability is there is a secret episode of south park that you can't see.

[Brett Dasovic]

It'll come out later. I think they'll end up releasing it later.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Once. If it exists. Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, it also, I mean, it could literally be. Because if I remember correctly, this appears on both. Is it on Comedy Central and on Paramount? Right.

[Tim Pool]

That's the same thing, isn't it?

[Brett Dasovic]

Okay, but I'm saying, but like network, if it's appearing on cable or tv, they have to worry about advertisers and advertisers getting pulled. If it's just going on Paramount plus because that's what happened with the Charlie Kirk episode is they removed it from network tv but they left it on Paramount Plus. You don't. Somebody, Somebody can fact check me if I'm.

[Tim Pool]

The Kirk episode.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yes, I believe it was.

[Tim Pool]

I, I went to Paramount plus and I couldn't find it.

[Brett Dasovic]

Okay. They removed it from there. Okay. So.

[Tim Pool]

No, I don't know. I don't know. Like, look at it too heavily.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, the idea is like you have to find advertisers for the network version and you're going to have a lot harder time selling that than you are if you're just putting it on your streaming platform. Somebody in the chat will know whether it's up on Paramount plus.

[Tim Pool]

Still, I'm waiting to see if there's like some reaction on X to Trump designated antifa terror organization. But.

[Will Tanner]

Well, one thing on that that's important to remember with the organizations we're talking about, George Soros is Open Society Foundation. Where did it get its start? South Africa, during the terror campaign being waged by the ANC against the government that ended in the horror show that South Africa now is. So being able to cut these people off and cut off the funds from to where they're going I think could have a really huge impact that we haven't thought of because it.

[Tim Pool]

Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

Honestly, Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new Family Freedom offer.

[Tim Pool]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

Well, I'm departing from AT&T and embarking on a new journey with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[Tim Pool]

Bon voyage.

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[Will Tanner]

Could stop the color revolutions that have been ongoing in all our countries for decades now.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean there's a lot of paper trails, etc etc.

[Tim Pool]

So we just got some breaking news too. I'm gonna pull this up from Nick Sorter on Jimmy Kimmel.

[Tate Brown]

So much going on.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Sinclair stepped up and I think this was. Was. Was it Stelter was saying this, that likely other networks were. Who. Who brought that up? Was it? Other networks were likely making moves against Jimmy Kimmel, which is why ABC was forced to respond. So take a look at this from Nick Sorter. He says breaking it just got worse for Kimmel. Sinclair Broadcast Group, who owns 24 ABC stations in major cities, announces. You gotta let me finish this. They'll be filling Jimmy Kimmel's time slot with a tribute to Charlie Kirk. They're also demanding Kimmel make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and Turning Point usa, as well as a direct apology to Erica and the kids. Incredible. Mr. Kimmel's remarks were inappropriate and deeply insensitive at a critical moment in our country, said Vice Chairman Jason Smith. Sinclair gave much credit to Brendan Car saying, we appreciate FCC Chairman Carr's remarks today in this incident highlights the critical need for the FCC to take immediate regulatory action to address control held over local broadcasters by the big national networks.

[Brett Dasovic]

So the big national networks blame the fc, the fc, the fcc and then the. And then now they're saying that it's the other, you know, that it's not them.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Brett Dasovic]

So they're saying that. Can you read the last part again?

[Phil Labonte]

Claire gave much credit to Brennan Carr saying, we appreciate FCC Chairman Carr's remarks today. And this incident highlights the critical need for the FCC to take immediate Regulatory action to address control held over local broadcasters by the big national networks.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, is this the worst thing in the world? If the SEC is putting weight, I mean, that's kind of like their job. If there's this insanity being spewed on national airwaves, isn't that the FCC's purview? I mean, mitigate political violence? And that's what we've been arguing this whole time.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the, I think that's the best point considering the fact that this is political violence. Right. This is, there's no question about Radio Rwanda level. It was a literal, it was a terrorist attack. And this is something that I, I am, I'm going to beat this like a dead horse. This wasn't just a murder. This was a terrorist attack intended on getting conservatives to stop speaking their mind. Because again, Charlie Kirk's whole spiel was, I'm the guy that wants to talk to you. I want to do the debate. This is, this is probably a very good thing for the whole country because the intent is to lower the temperature. The people that are, that. You hear people on the left complaining that, oh, Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature. Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature. Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature. While they're calling Donald Trump a fascist, while they're saying that, well, Charlie Kirk was a fascist, well, it's bad that he got killed, but he said all these horrible things and he did all this horrible stuff and he was a hateful person and blah, blah, blah. None of that is lowering the temperature. This is actually tangibly attempting to lower the temperature.

[Brett Dasovic]

I guess the point, what I was trying to make earlier is that Sinclair is saying that the FCC is addressing the control of the big national networks, which was what was being stated by, by Brian Stelter on cnn. Right. So Sinclair is saying that the big national networks like CNN have control over these stations, but then CNN was putting it off on the fcc.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

So they're all passing the buck around to everybody else.

[Tim Pool]

And I, I would like to issue a request to those out there with the decentralized network and so many viewers. There's a great power in so many of you working together. I would ask that you go to tibcast.com join our discord server so we can work on these communal projects. Because what I'm about to ask requires a bit of coordination. How about we pull up every quote from every liberal who fought to get Tucker Carlson kicked off of Fox News, all of the statements they issued where they said he should be fired. And then went to all the advertisers and got all the advertisers pulled. They have no nothing. They have no ground to stand on when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel because they fought so hard to kick off Tucker. Why should I listen anything they say now?

[Brett Dasovic]

All because he wanted to talk about the green M M's go, go boots.

[Tim Pool]

I know he said that. Why isn't the M M's sexy anymore? And they took his job.

[Tate Brown]

It's a very salient question to be fair.

[Tim Pool]

Even Seamus made fun of Tucker for that one. Why is the green M M sexy anymore? That radical.

[Tate Brown]

That radicalized me beyond belief. Yeah, I want my sexy M M's back. The left, the woke left took it from me.

[Tim Pool]

High heels away and they gave her a little, little flats.

[Brett Dasovic]

Come on, you wore on Christmas.

[Tim Pool]

But in all serious to Roseanne as well, it would be great if, you know, someone could put together a little video showing every. You know what, you know what we need? We need like Brian Ster being like, this country is let less free. They're coming for our speech or whatever. And then you could play the curbed theme and then show all the time Brian Stelter cheered for like Roseanne or Tucker getting fired.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, am I really supposed to buy into a world where Brian Stelter's like, I disagree with what you say, but I defend. But like, sure, Jan. Well, they shut.

[Will Tanner]

Down Parlor because they claimed it was supporting terrorism or something by letting.

[Phil Labonte]

They said that that's where the. The January 6th people organized. Even though later it came out, they organized on Facebook.

[Tim Pool]

Which brings me to this story from Time.com CEOs of Reddit and Twitch called to testify to Congress on radicalization in wake of Charlie Kirk killing. Anybody who's ever gone on Reddit knows that is a hotbed of radicalization for the left. YouTube is. And they lie. They've always lied. They claim that all these platforms like X or whatever were radicalized. It was never true. And we went over the data over and over again. So let me tell you something really funny. We launched a. I got a new channel. It's YouTube.comimpool. i got a video that's. It's called hyped. That's what they're calling it. I had no idea what this was. It's got like 200,000. It's called it's time to bring back exorcisms. I found something really funny. We launched this channel because I believe YouTube has put coded censorship on this channel as well as many others. Making it difficult to get recommendations or to be found. I believe that since the Biden era, they have remained on these channels. So if we make a new channel, it will be free of this. Well, the videos that I've put out, I'll say it like this. I put out a video on this channel on Tim Cast or Tim Cast News. They spike in viewership and then die. That's the life of these videos on the new channel. It's like it used to be when I first launched my channel on YouTube. It would spike, it would go down, then it would go up, then it would go down, then up and down and eventually slowly fade out. Maybe later on Spike back again. That's what my new channel is doing. Indicating that YouTube, also a hotbed of radicalization, still has the censorship active. Well, now Reddit and Twitch are going to testify to Congress and Hasan's freaking out. He's like, twitch doesn't even have to.

[Frank Turek]

Do anything with his way.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, boy. You know why he's freaking out? Because the congress, men and women, at least the conservatives, are going to say to the CEO of Twitch, Hasan Piker said this got him. Stab them, stick a knife in their belly, things like that. I can't even repeat some of the things that Hasan Piker has said on his show. And he's freaking out because the CEO of Twitch is going to have to answer for all of that.

[Phil Labonte]

I just want to point out, until they get the CEO of Kick again, Destiny's dodging a bullet.

[Tim Pool]

That's true. I guess Kick isn't big enough.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know, but maybe they're just probably. But Kick is where the people that get kicked off of Twitch go to because they're allowed to be irreverent or whatever. You know, I bet if I pull.

[Tim Pool]

Up Reddit, go to R News, and let's take a look at what we got. Just, you know, just ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel. How much do you want to bet all of the comments are going to be left alone?

[Phil Labonte]

Mind just means straight up people calling for more murder.

[Tim Pool]

Has there ever been a person whose death and remarks about it have caused so many other people to get canceled? Meanwhile, Brian Kill the Homeless, Kill Me is still on the air based.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. Now Colbert's chance to go scorched earth and get pulled mid monologue. It's not like he has his show after the season anyway.

[Brett Dasovic]

But he just won an Emmy.

[Tate Brown]

Colbert says left wing things.

[Phil Labonte]

What is he gonna say that's gonna that could get him pulled? Like, what is what Is he gonna say, yeah, that he hasn't already said? Unless it's, like, just straight up, you know, like, lying.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, bro, I actually. I really want to watch a show now.

[Tate Brown]

It is gonna be, bro.

[Tim Pool]

It is. It is. It's not even fair to call it thin ice that he's walking on. He's like, it's. It's. It's. It's a. It's a pool of water. It's like he takes any step in any direction he falls in, what's he gonna do? He can't do any of these. He can't do literally any job joke. The news cycle right now is this. What will he say about it other than to agree with the Right. And then what jokes can he make? How much you want to bet his jokes are going to be totally unrelated to anything? And he's going to be like, I bought some bread today. It was stale. Guess there was a hole in it. You ever have stale bread put in the oven and we're going to be like, what?

[Brett Dasovic]

He finds out later. He's really good at telling those types of jokes. And all he had to do is get away from the political stuff.

[Phil Labonte]

Delivery is actually amazing.

[Tim Pool]

And people, like, the ratings spike super high.

[Brett Dasovic]

They're like, holy crap, this dude is actually funny. When he's not being a dork about.

[Tate Brown]

Politics, talking about Eminem's sexualized, and it's a smash hit.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, can he just starts taking Tucker bits and redoing it.

[Tim Pool]

What can he joke about?

[Tate Brown]

Like, phone book jokes?

[Tim Pool]

Honest question. What can he joke about? I bet he's going to joke about. You can. You can't even joke about the. Was it the Emmys that just happened? Yeah, because that lady went up there and said, free Palestine. Yeah. So it's like.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, she said, f ice free.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, but you can make a joke about that because why are you bringing up, like, your favorite football team or around foreign wars and, like, immigration policy? Like, there, like, that was actually something that I found funny. I'm like, why, like, why did you couch, like, your favorite sports team right next to the really serious issues? Because these are unserious people. You could make fun of her. You actually could, but you don't have the balls to do that because you don't actually want to take on that narrative.

[Tim Pool]

She was.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, she was literally like, go birds, by the way. There's like, a genocide going on, and then the money that's going to poor children just crashes through the. The floor on the. Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

Did you see that part that they had a charity clock on there. Like if they kept their speeches under 45 seconds, they gave more money to the Boys and Girls club. But they ended up losing money because none of the celebrities could shut the hell up. Like eventually, like CBS or whoever it is, that host is like, okay, we'll, we'll front the money.

[Tim Pool]

Because like, nobody would shut up who watches those things.

[Tate Brown]

Demented, Tormented.

[Tim Pool]

And search, search volume was good on Google, so I guess nobody watched it. And then just Google morning.

[Brett Dasovic]

They watched the clips. They, they watch the, like X is probably where the, the most views get seen because people watch the stuff clipped out of context.

[Tim Pool]

This is crazy because Seth Meyers is in trouble.

[Tate Brown]

Oh yeah, right.

[Tim Pool]

He's still there. Colbert's show's already canceled. But the look he's losing. Was he losing 40 million a year? Probably. They're like, we're not going to renew your contract. Give them a morality clause exemption to be able to terminate right now. I bet they will. Nobody watches his show. To be, to be fair, Colbert and Kim will get about 2 million in their ratings. And you might be saying, Tim, that's so many people in the key demo, it's like 200,000.

[Brett Dasovic]

And yeah, and the 18 to 49 demo matters less and less these days because there's no 18 to 49 people watching terrestrial television anymore.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the demo matters. It just, it matter. It's just when, when you, when you do your ratings, you're going to count all of your views across the board, including TV or otherwise. But the show doesn't even pull in that much on YouTube or other social media.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, the Kimmel actually does pretty crazy numbers on YouTube, like in the billions of views and stuff, like that's where they're getting.

[Tim Pool]

His channel has billions of views. Yes, but what are his videos getting? 100k.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, it's like what they brought back with Jon Stewart.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Brett Dasovic]

He came back because the social media engagement was really.

[Tim Pool]

It's because YouTube puts him on the front page for default.

[Brett Dasovic]

Well, yeah, they automatically default late night.

[Tim Pool]

This is massive. I'm pretty sure YouTube trending is gone because I've like, I go to YouTube trends and like it just is gone. Doesn't load anything anymore. Maybe, maybe that's just my account, but I'm pretty sure I tried on a private browser. With Jimmy Kimmel no longer having his show, he's not going to produce YouTube content. He's like, how's he going to afford to. He needs. He's. There's no way you make enough money on YouTube for that. So that's gone. What's YouTube gonna put on the front page?

[Brett Dasovic]

Like what will. What channels will just be cnn, regular news channels?

[Tim Pool]

I don't, I don't think even CNN is getting that much. I will say when, when the press conference happened with Cash, I did a live stream. I think it was yesterday or the day before, and I had what, 40, 000 viewers watching. I was the biggest stream covering the press conference and YouTube was not featuring it. And I'm just like, sure thing. I guess they put up a bunch of channels that were getting substantially less because YouTube playing stupid games. They desperately want to stop independent news channels from getting a voice.

[Will Tanner]

Is it the left's patronage networks have shifted from cable to the tech platforms, particularly YouTube, because it used to be like the deal for Kobe pushing propaganda constantly to his insane audience was that he got the millions of dollars, but that's gone. So is it now that YouTube is building these people up is a way of rewarding them behind the scenes for continuing to push the party line? Or do you think it's just organic in that regard?

[Tim Pool]

Well, say it one more time.

[Will Tanner]

What do you mean, sorry, Is it a intentional patronage network where they're trying to boost their propaganda pushers through YouTube now because cable's dying and this is their way of turning YouTube.

[Tim Pool]

YouTube's promoting Jimmy Kimmel because we are told Jimmy Kimmel is mainstream stream. So the people at YouTube largely are liberals. They are told Jimmy Kimmel is the popular, prominent, normal thing. So promote that it's fake. Their channels have become psychotic and deranged. So the funny thing is, YouTube saw tremendous success with shows like this seven or eight years ago and then got attacked by these institutions and panicked. So YouTube could have had a much, much stronger foothold for a long time time. But they, they panicked over this, censored all of the independent news channels and commentary channels, which ranged from left to right, and then defaulted Fox, MSNBC and cnn. And they said we'll just do that.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, they were talking about authoritative news sources pushing away from it like.

[Tim Pool]

So you no longer got recommended my videos. I was getting massive views. And then they censored me and everybody else. And to be fair, like my channel still did really, really well, still growing, but they locked us out. It's called the small room. What is called the small room shadow band. They, they lock you so your channel can't grow anymore. And I believe those sensor locks still exist on this show and, and the other channels that I have, which is why I launched a new channel which now seemingly doesn't have it. One of the latest videos I did has a tag on it that says hyped. So it's being promoted massively and it got 200,000 views and there's 40,000 subscribers. And they're saying, wow, this must be great content. Yeah, because now they're not censoring. Now there's a clear victory. We won. Jimmy Kimmel is, is, is gone. These late night shows are, are not popular, they are not mainstream and the election proved it. And I think YouTube is now starting to realize there is a new world in digital media and these channels do not represent the heart and soul of.

[Brett Dasovic]

This country and they're relics of how these things are produced. I mean the, the, they have 100 writers on these shows. Like when, when Jimmy Kimmel says, like I had, I said nothing that I have to apologize for. It's like you didn't say anything. Like 100 writers said that and you just parroted whatever the hell you were told.

[Tate Brown]

Well, you're seeing like all across the tech space just this huge. I guess you would call it a containment breach of right wing thought. I mean Elon led the charge with taking over X and then I think all these companies realized, oh, there's actually a monetary incentive to just let people like engage with the content they want to. Because yeah, if you scroll Instagram reels now, you're going to see like some of the most right wing edits you've ever seen your entire life. And it's massive engagement. So I think Meta is happy to just sit there and be like, I mean look, we're in the black. This is great. Just let them cook well.

[Will Tanner]

And once one is this relatively free speech platform where people can go there if you start.

[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Tim Pool]

Bon voyage.

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[Will Tanner]

T Mobile booting them off. It really, I think, to your point, disincentivizes the censorship model because they actually can just leave.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I mean, like, TikTok is like still just kind of. The TOS is still very vague and kind of random who they punish. So everyone's transitioned Instagram reels because it's like, I mean, it's still bad, but it's a little bit more clear. And you're actually going to see, you know, you're going to see real people on there versus TikTok. The only people that can fly under the radar are just like anonymous people, like, stealing each other's content. So, like, yeah, all these companies are realizing, oh, the incentive structures have completely changed around and they're having to get in line. I think that's in large part due to Elon.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, Meta will still hit the people on Instagram where it's like, if you're controversial enough, it'll be like, are you sure you want to follow this person? Yeah, like, it like double checks with you to make sure that that's actually, like, are you. Like, you could get radicalized if you watch their content?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they'll do. It's like, yeah, if you're trying to follow like Fox News anchor, but then there'll be like a guy literally posting like the most insane edits you've ever seen your entire life. And it's like, yeah, fall here's recommended. You want to see some more? So it's like, yeah, they're just, they. I don't think they really even know what they're doing anymore. They're just letting everyone cook.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to the. Excuse me. Let's jump to this story from rolling stone from 2023. Why cancel culture is good for democracy. I'm kidding. It's there, though. It's a real story. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

To act as if the left has not only been vocally for Cancel Culture, they have been the people that were absolutely demanding cancellation of anyone that spoke against the left's narrative. And to behave as if they haven't and to be, oh, well, now you, now you, now you support Cancel culture. Blah, blah. Again, contextually, this is a totally different animal with the situation with Charlie Kirk. This is a murder of an innocent man by a terrorist. And they're like, how can you Cancel people over supporting terrorism. It's ridiculous on its face.

[Tim Pool]

I'd like to jump to this video of Nick Fuentes because if there is ever anything that proves the Large Hadron Collider has fired up and we have entered an inverse reality. There are a few stories. Jimmy Kimmel being fired, Trump designating Antifa a terrorist organization, and then this video that to be fair, I can't even tell if these things are AI anymore. But people are saying this is actually Nick Fuentes. Listen to this. Time to wake up, guys. Some of this I'll be the first one to say the conspirator schizo thing, it's getting a little out of control and that's coming from me. I mean it's like we are truly through the looking glass. When Charlie Kirk is a assassinated people blame Israel. I, who fought Charlie Kirk because he was pro Israel and being said to are. I'm being sad to be covering up that he was killed for this miraculous conversion. If Ben Shapiro was taken out next and God forbid, would Israel be behind that too? I mean that would be equally ridiculous. If it was Ben Shapiro on Wednesday, people would be saying Israel did it. Shapiro was about to become a national Socialist. Like what voice of reason? I saw this video and someone asked me if it was AI and I'm like, honestly, I don't know anymore. Because Nick Fuentes is like, I was was challenging the Israel narrative on Charlie's assassin and people said he was covering it up. Up. I did a, I did like a 46 minute breakdown on all these stories where they're claiming that Charlie was fighting with donors, he felt blackmailed. And I'll just say, I'll give you the real simple version. Some of that seems to be half true. Like there were donors who were concerned about the current state of support for Israel and Charlie was moderate conservative. So he had similar views to many conservatives. Which is, I don't know, why should we. We should be funding these foreign wars and getting dragged into it. However. However, I think it's very obvious to anybody who's ever watched anything from Charlie, he was extremely pro Israel. So I agree with Nick Fuendez on this one in that it is ridiculous to assume Israel did it. And I don't get the point. I mean it's just deflecting from the obvious that far leftists who had a real motive that we've been warning about for. So like don't walk away from solving the puzzle. Okay. We've been complaining about the far left threat of violence. I have been threatened by the far left. I've never been threatened by Israel, I've never been threatened by gripers. It's always the far left. And so when a guy kills Charlie and the evidence suggests he's a leftist, there are people coming out blaming Israel. And I'm just like, but like, by all means, like, like rag on Israel all day, every day. I don't care. I care about as much as I care about Burma. But it is weird that they blame it for everything to the point where even Nick Fuentes of all people are saying, guys, chill out. But you know, I agree, I agree.

[Will Tanner]

Nick, in the diffusion of political force that the whole conspiracy thing he's talking about represents is a major problem. Because this, this is our opportunity to take on the radical violent left that you're speaking about. And to do that we have to develop Schwerpunk a point of force and overwhelming force to do so. Not violent force, just political force and political will to do it. And if everyone's off with their own personal pet theory about what went on despite the evidence that this was clearly an antifa related operation, that's a major mistake that will limit our ability to do anything productive, much less what directly needs to be done and will be very difficult to accomplish even if we keep our focus intact.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, like you have people that have been on the same tangent, like they were saying the same stuff eight days ago and then they just like reapply it to this horrible, tragic situation and all they're doing in the process is just letting the left off the hook. That's all that's happening here. It's like, like he said, like, what are we even talking about here? Like why?

[Tim Pool]

Why?

[Tate Brown]

Like, like you're saying we have, we now have a moment. We now have the potential to really crack down on these people that have been tormenting us for all these years. And then these were just going off on bunny trails that aren't going to go anywhere. And then like there's overwhelming evidence this guy was, you know, left wing, you know, antifa align. And yeah, they're just completely letting him off the hook with this nonsense. I'm just like, guys, what, like what are we doing here? It's almost, you almost get suspicious, like, are you running cover for the left at this point? You gotta, you have to start asking yourself that question.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, I do, I do wonder how many people are actually running cover for the left because it does seem like there's that motivation. I mean, this is probably about as conspiratorial as I get, but the idea that this is, this is an op, it doesn't sit with me. But there are people where it's just like, man, are you actually trying to help the left?

[Tate Brown]

You know, I'm like, have you ever met a leftist? I legitimately, I'm asking people like, if you have an axe to grant at Israel, that's one thing. But it's like, like maybe you just never met a leftist to like realize that no, they actually hate you, they actually want to kill you. This is not beyond the pale for them. This is how they operate. Maybe they just haven't met a leftist because this is when, as soon as this happened, I was like, yeah, okay, it's kind of obvious what's happened here.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And it's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

I mean there are many Jewish people, I wonder if they've met a J in their whole life.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, there's a lot of people that are, you know, you see, you see it on the timeline, the whole like the people that are so conspiracy brain that they're just like, well, oh, you know, was there, was there another shooter or was this actually shot from behind or whatever. There are a couple people that do it. And just pointing out, look, nowadays there are people that are so, so sure or so, so determined to not get fooled by the government because the government does lie, right? I'm not saying that the government doesn't lie. They, they definitely send misinformation out, do. Do whatever they can to promote the narrative that they want. They do lie. But there are so many people that are determined, determined to not be, you know, conned by the government again, that they will believe anything just so long as the government doesn't said it, didn't say it. And you can see that by the people that say, I used to believe in UFOs and then the government said they haven't UFOs now I don't believe in UFOs. Like that's really what happens.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's well, a natural reaction of what's happened after the institutions fell. Right, Exactly. Nobody believes that the colleges anymore, nobody believes the government anymore.

[Tim Pool]

And, and they shouldn't exactly.

[Brett Dasovic]

The lack of trust and authority means that you have to look for it elsewhere. And unfortunately that leads you down dark paths. If you don't have the time to go actually investigate all of this stuff, you're going to kind of. It's like not being able to see the forest of the trees.

[Phil Labonte]

The real conspiracy is sometimes the government tells the truth. Sometimes that's dangerous.

[Brett Dasovic]

Sometimes things are just what they seem. And it's just in today's day and age, nobody wants to be a fool.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's, that's the point. That, like, no, there were so many people that got conned by Covid and so many people bought into it. And then you, the, the. You hear the way that people are talked about. If they did get bought, if they did get conned, or if they did believe it, they're like, oh, I don't want that to happen. So they'll believe anything and everything, just so long as it's the, the. Not the narrative that the government's trying to put forward. And there's one more thing that I'll say about this. The worst people in the world are the people that will not only will believe anything at all, but then sit there and act like they're act arrogantly towards others about it. If you're just like, I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't believe anything because blah, blah, blah, that's one thing. But when you're just like, oh, you're so stupid because you believe the blood, you believe the earth is round. What a moron you are. You know, it's like Shane Cashman is the perfect example. He does. He's skeptical about everything, but he's never condescending, he's never rude. Dude, he never treats people badly about, about different beliefs. And like, he believe, he doesn't even believe clouds are real.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, like Dean Hagland, he was on the X Files back in the day, was on a podcast once. He said, the problem with being a conspiracy theorist is if you're right, all you get to say is, I told you so.

[Tate Brown]

Literally.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, that's really like all. He's like, every. The worst possible thing imagines the government covers up the worst thing you've ever thought of in the entire world, turns out to be right, and all you get to say is, I was right.

[Tim Pool]

Well, and another thing is, I think.

[Will Tanner]

A lot of this is the need for politics to be entertainment where it's not that this is a serious moment requiring serious political thought and doing things that will have long term repercussions and need to be dealt with with that in mind, it's instead, no, no, I want to be entertained by some nonsense I made up. And to be entertained, I'm gonna continue just coming up with things and pushing things that aren't serious. And I think that's a huge mistake.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and to be fair to these people, we're coming out of the Biden winter. We're coming out of the Obama years. So it's like they kind of have. And rewarded in many aspects to be like eternal contrarians.

[Tim Pool]

Well, just like gaslit or gaslit.

[Tate Brown]

So they're not used to the fact that we have like the most right wing administration probably in our lifetimes. Certainly in my lifetime. And so it's like I do give these people a bit of grace because yeah, they came out of a environment where like being a contrarian was actually usually the best way forward. But yeah, this is, we're in a different paradigm again, a leftist. The person they have is, you know, clearly a leftist. With the evidence presented.

[Tim Pool]

It's stay, stay off threads, everybody. I went on threads and it's just.

[Brett Dasovic]

Or blue sky.

[Tim Pool]

If I could explain with a sound. It's. That's the sound of all of these posts. Pictures of Jimmy Kimmel. Here's one. Are you kidding? Imagine if this happened when Biden was present to a Fox News host and they said that about Pelosi's husband. Imagine, imagine. Oh, I think this person's actually making fun of them.

[Tate Brown]

One of our guys is on there.

[Tim Pool]

Brave soul being against antifa literally by definition means you are pro fascism.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, they do that thing where they show like the into the jaws of death picture from D day and they're like, this is what antifa look like. And I'm like, ask one of those gentlemen what they would think about blue hair dye.

[Tim Pool]

Their reaction, we're the good guys. And that's a proper noun. I, I have coined the term term good guys. And I'm gonna create a flag for a symbol of good guys and we will be called the good guys. And so literally, if you oppose the good guys, you're the bad guys. Yeah, that's how it works. So all of these. Yeah, all these people who are saying that good guys are bad means they're the bad guys. That proves it. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Sorry guys. Libs owned.

[Tim Pool]

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[Brett Dasovic]

Watch Adam Corolla though.

[Tim Pool]

Where does he go? Where does Jimmy what does Jimmy Kimmel do? I mean he's rich.

[Brett Dasovic]

Starts his own YouTube channel or a podcast. That's what they all do. They all start podcasts.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Meo says Grock states construction on the White house ballroom began 9, 12, 25. Just have to ask it non political questions to get a straight answer. There you go making sense with Mikey says Tim. It's as you predicted, they use AI to clip out the word not from the phrase not very well. Well so my prediction for AI videos is for those that are not familiar, some of you may be when Trump said there were very fine people on both sides and I'm not talking about the neo Nazis of the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. I'm not afraid of them making an AI video. There's one recently of Trump and he's like the far left are going to be crushed. They're bad people. And everyone's like, oh. But it's like clearly AI the scarier thing is when they change. When Trump says they should be condemned totally to some should be condemned totally. So the so then you see a video of Trump saying they were fine people on both sides and I am not talking about the white nationalists or the neo Nazis because some should be condemned totally. The liberals will see the some statement, believe it's true, it's impossible to debunk and they'll say he was defending them. Look, he said only some should be condemned. And then you'll be like, no, he said they and no one will know. And someone who's there who have a false memory and be like I'm pretty sure he said some. And they'll go see he was there. And that that's the terrifying reality of AI video. And it's getting better. AI video is getting better every day. It is creepy. AI music too. Yikes. Taiwan Cricket says love the sinner, hate the sin is about the most anti Bible concept there is.

[Tate Brown]

Is it love the sinner, hate the sin.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Love the sinner, hate the sin yeah, that's. It's biblical.

[Phil Labonte]

That was the whole point of like Jesus hanging out with, with and like, you know, like all of the, basically all of the apostles were terrible before they started following Christ.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. If he hated the sinner and the sin, I mean, we'd all be in a bit of trouble. I think we're all still sinners, like, even if you're Christian.

[Tim Pool]

Mason M93 says if south park were still South Park, Cartman would be shot in the neck, Stan would become a Nazi in anger, and Kyle would cry about. About there being a worse one. I. I don't know if I agree completely. We haven't seen something so egregious. I mean, what. Since south park has existed, have we seen anything like this?

[Brett Dasovic]

Did you see that Charlie. Charlie Sheen called what happened to Charlie Kirk the JFK of our generation. And even that I don't know if I believe because we live in a time where we're so bifurcated and so polarized that there is no like before, like we were talking about earlier, the toppling the institutions. People had general faith in the government at that time. So it was a. There was a collective conscious.

[Tim Pool]

Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

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[Tim Pool]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

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Well, I'm departing from AT&T and embarking on a new journey with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[Tim Pool]

Bon voyage.

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[Brett Dasovic]

Country that mourned what happened because we still had faith in our institutions and we don't have that anymore. I don't know if there is such a thing as a JFK incident in the age we live in anymore because people are so divided.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and then the Kirk thing is beyond a. Is beyond a physical government institution. It's the institution of civil discourse that was, that's what was under attack. And I think that's why it's particularly horrifying because, yeah, it's gone beyond like a three letter agency that we've lost faith and we've lost faith in like the foundation, I mean like the culture of free speech.

[Tim Pool]

We got. Jessica posted these blue sky. I don't know if this blue sky or X or whatever. America has become a full blown fascist state in under a year. Trump and his thugs now have three more years to build out state media. Not by chance, advance jumped into Kirk's podcast seat the other day. Next Star is also part of the state media plan and Jimmy Kimmel. Both revenge and a warning. And I'm just like, I just don't care anymore. Just, okay, Trump, be a fascist, whatever. Like, I'm so sick of the left. You're sitting in a room and you fart and they start screaming and bashing their face on the table, screaming at you offended them. And I'm like, Mike, just shut up.

[Phil Labonte]

Look at it like this. If your option is be targeted by the left or empower the government to arrest those people, I'm going to choose empower the government to arrest those people every single time. This isn't, this isn't like, oh, it's not a big deal. Like, Charlie Kirk had done nothing wrong and they murdered him because some crazy dude that I almost said something bad that was in love with a, with a trans person, like, decided that he needed to kill Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk would have said something as horrible as. You're a man.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and also what Vance doing a live stream is, I mean, what is the fireside chats? Like propaganda? Like fascist propaganda now? Like, what are we doing here?

[Will Tanner]

If the Trump of the left's fever dreams existed, there would be no more left.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, at the end of, like I said, at the end of the day, they're targeting conservative pundits. They're literally murdering people. If my choice is get murdered or empower the government to arrest the people that are doing the murdering, it's not hard.

[Tim Pool]

Hard.

[Phil Labonte]

And every single person in the world would make the same kind of, you know, result with, with the equation and.

[Brett Dasovic]

All of these people, I guarantee you they all cheered on Alex Jones losing a 1.5 billion dollar lawsuit.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I got, I gotta tell you, Phil, I actually disagree. If you go to a. There's a large portion of people on the right where if you said far leftists are arming up and heading towards your house to kill you. You can choose the government to protect you or on your own. They'd walk into their room, grab a bunch of guns, throw a rifle to their buddy and be like, let's ride.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't want to talk about that. Listen, tos violations are a real thing. I ain't that guy posting.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta read this. Justin G. Says hi. Tim. The Cato Institute posted an analysis claiming violence on the right is more prevalent. Can you explain how institutes use overbroad classification tactics? Your streams have helped me recognize this deception. All you got to do to understand this is look up the definition of a mass shooting and you'll find 15 different definitions. Then based on the definition you agree with, you can get the answer you want. So in most of these assessments, they exclude black people. And so like in Chicago, Baltimore, in St. Louis, D.C. they won't include those mass shootings. And they'll go, oh well, no one really means that. And I'm kind of like, dude, I don't care what the race of the guy is. If he takes a Glock or whatever. If he gets a switch and he pulls up to a family barbecue and sprays down 13 people, that's a mass shooting. But they go, oh, but oh, and so they do. There's a variety of tactics you can use, subjective definitions. A mass shooting is only when then a political motive is stated. And then what happens is if the government doesn't release the motive, they won't include it. So you end up with them saying white supremacy is right wing, despite the fact the most prominent and popular political activists on the conservative side argued for a race neutral country. That's not white supremacy. That's just literally not. So how is it right wing? They just say it go to go to go to any conservative in at CPAC or whatever and they're 99%, maybe 95, they're gonna be like, I reject all of that stuff. We don't care about white supremacy or racism. We're not about that. Our favorite Supreme Court justice is Clarence Thomas. In fact, I wish Clarence Thomas would clone himself. Twelve of them have 50 babies and then dominate. Like, I gotta be honest, if you went to your average run of mill conservative and you asked this, if you ask 10 people, you're gonna get nine out of 10, maybe even 10 out 10 answers. If you could clone Clarence Thomas or Clarence Thomas had so many babies and grandbabies that all of Congress, the entirety of the Supreme Court and the executive branch was all just Clarence Thomas family, would you be in favor of that? They're gonna be like, yes, there's nobody better.

[Brett Dasovic]

And I want you to take economic advice from Thomas Sowell.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, right, exactly. And the stupid thing is, you know, like, we typically don't even even have to say those things. It's only because the left demands it and calls you racist that we're like, what are you talking about? Like, we don't actually sit here and be like, I like Larry Elder because he's black. No, we like Larry Elder because he's Larry Elder. We like Clarence Thomas for being Clarence Thomas. We also don't like Katanji Brown Jackson. What does race have to do with it? Are their ideas good? So anyway, what they'll do is they'll define right in any way they want and then claim as lots of it. So I'll do this. How. How about these inner cities? They're 80, 90% Democrat, right? That means gang violence is all leftist political violence. So let's honest qu. You know what, you guys? Decentralized network time, Tim, Cast discord or viewers. How about you guys take a look at all of the crime of the past year and then make a chart where any shooting in a. In a predominantly Democrat district, area or neighborhood counts as Democrat political violence. And then you can make a chart showing political violence by political party. What do you think it's going to show you? It's going to be 80% Democrat. But do I really think that the reason a young guy in Chicago shoots another guy is because they're Democrats? No, it's because they were slighted, because they were offended, because they're selling drugs or whatever. But those are the games they play. It's all fake. Like, all right, Balls are Deep says if any of you have ever read Camp of the Saints, I suggest you do H. Scary. What is that?

[Tate Brown]

Connor Tomlinson just put a video up breaking down the book, because it's this book that was like completely, like banned from every. Like you couldn't get it anywhere. And then now there's a few publishers that are. Have gotten copies and that are selling copies online. You could probably give a great breakdown.

[Will Tanner]

Yeah, it's a warning tale about mass migration at the time, was set in France of the near future. And there's a horde of. I think they're from the Indian. Yeah, they're from India. Descending upon the west to pillage it essentially and take advantage of social services while committing crimes. And they get there and there's no one in the governmental apparatus that's willing to fight back against them except for a few Christians and one old aristocrat. And so they do this last stand where they try and fight this just overwhelming horde of humanity that's crashing across the border. And. Well, it's a dire book, so.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. And the funny part is the, the.

[Tim Pool]

Just based on Rome.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, and the horde is 1 million people, it says in the book. Just 1 million people. And then.

[Tim Pool]

You guys know the story of World of Warcraft? No, I recommend, I recommend you, you look up the story of World of Warcraft.

[Tate Brown]

What's the lore?

[Tim Pool]

So there's a, there's a. I'll give you the really, really overtly simple version, but there's a planet, it's called Azeroth, and there are humans and there are elves. And one day a horde bursts through of angry orcs and starts cutting down trees, trampling, taking over, settling. And I think the very original story of Warcraft was that the orcs came through a great portal, the dark portal, and then started taking over Azeroth. And the humans had to repel them and fight back. The story evolved quite dramatically to be that there is a fell dark energy that possessed the orcs. The orcs were actually shamanic people. They were tribal and not crazy. But the gist of the story basically is that a horde of orcs come through a portal and start taking over, you know, Azeroth and go to war.

[Will Tanner]

Camp of the saints is where the quote you see all over X comes from, where it's your universe has no meaning to them. They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they'll be cold, they'll make a fire with your beautiful oak door.

[Tim Pool]

Right, yeah. So, but it's, but it's true and it's not. I would say this. It is not denigrating to group of people to suggest that they would eat cats or dogs. And I think it's actually offensive that liberals get offended by it. When liberals were like, how dare you accuse them of eating cats and dogs? And I'm like, have you ever been anywhere in the world eat roaches too? Yeah, right. Bugs are food and Americans get all about it. And I'm like, well, you know, they don't taste that good, but if they come from the ocean, bugs are delicious, vicious. If they're on land, bugs are no good. And then they get offended that we would suggest they'd eat cats. I'm like, bro, animals are animals. Like people, people all over the world eat whatever they can get their hands on. They eat dogs in Southeast Asia and they don't care. They're Not a. Like, if you went to, like, a Vietnamese guy and be like, hey, you eat dog? He'd be like, yes. Yeah. Okay. And you eat chickens. And if you go to India, they'll be like, ha. You eat cows? And we'll be like, we do, and we love them. They'll be like, oh, that's ridiculous.

[Phil Labonte]

Talking about eating dogs makes me want to do TOS violations as well.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and we're eating. We're drinking slop water over here. So are we much better?

[Tim Pool]

Are we much better off slop butter? Yeah, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

They're probably, they're probably in Haiti. Like, they eat, like, can you believe it's not butter they eat.

[Phil Labonte]

They're like, they don't eat humans.

[Tim Pool]

They're like, barbecue's like, that's Liberia. That's Liberia. And in Haiti, they're like, look what they eat. It's. I can't believe it's not butter. And they're like, what isn't? Like, we don't know. It's like plastic, and they put it on bread, and they're like, oh, and they're eating butter.

[Will Tanner]

Mud cookies.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I was going to say mud cookies. They eat those in Haiti, which is incredible.

[Tim Pool]

What do they do? It's like a little bit of salt and sugar. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

And they butter and they boil the mud so that way, like, there's not stuff that'll kill you in it anymore.

[Tate Brown]

Excellently with Siamese cat.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they're mud cookies. Gross. It's, it's, it's like a little butter, sugar, and salt in mud. So there is some calories to it, and it will make the hunger pangs to stop.

[Phil Labonte]

Y.

[Tim Pool]

But you're eating dirt. Hey, I, I, I read that soil does have nutritional value, though. It's just like, humans can't really survive off of it.

[Tate Brown]

Bet o' Rourke loves soil. He ate a lot of it.

[Tim Pool]

I, I bought this book that's, like, how to Restart civilization, and it talks about how to eat leaves, and it's really cool. It's really cool.

[Phil Labonte]

I thought you just unplugged it and plugged it back in the book. No. How to restart civilization.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, yeah. It's really cool. It's got, like, all the basics of. I, I got an ad for it on Instagram because they were like, like, tim, we know who you are. And, you know they do. And so I bought it. And, like, the way you eat leaves is you're supposed to, like, take a leaf, rip it, rub it on your skin, wait 10 to 15 minutes, then you rub it on the side of your lip. Wait 10 to 15 minutes, then you bite it, chew on it, spit it out, wait 10 to 15 minutes, then you eat half a leaf, wait a couple hours. If none of that causes any problems, you eat a little bit, wait a couple hours, and then it's probably safe to eat ton of cool stuff in there, you know, but you're probably not gonna get. Get enough nutrition from eating leaves to be completely honest.

[Phil Labonte]

You need a second stomach for that.

[Tim Pool]

That. Yeah. I might as well just wait for the deer to come by. Got to eat them all. All right, let's see what we get. Samuel Ry says, Never forget this feeling. Yep. Soul123 says this is brutal, but needs to be shared all over the Internet. The left is psychotic and evil. We cannot coexist with them anymore. They are evil. Yeah. That video from. That was posted from Frank Turk, I think was was his name. Yep. One of. That's. That's one of Charlie's real good friends. And it's a horrifying video, and that's why it's unacceptable. Look, Hollywood Reporter said Jimmy Kimmel was not going to apologize. Like, we are at a crossroads in this country. We are. We are. This is it. A friend of mine. This is wild to say. Someone I've known for decades posted a video of a woman pointing to an article about, you know, Donald Trump. I forgot exactly what it was about. It was some kind of action that he was taking, targeting, you know, antifa or something. And then the next video from the woman, because it was a story, was her explaining the Reichstag fire as if to imply that Donald Trump killed Charlie Kirk intentionally to justify the expansion of his control in the state. And so I'm sitting here being like, this is a person I've known for decades who's a good friend of mine, suggesting that my friend was killed by his friend to justify an expansion of a fascist state, which is just absolutely insane.

[Will Tanner]

Well, also, the communists actually did set the Reichstag on fire, which, you know, they still did it.

[Tim Pool]

Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

Honestly, Will, I didn't plan any trips, but I did switch to T Mobile with their new family freedom offer.

[Tim Pool]

That's not the itinerary we're following.

[Will Tanner (Alternate or Guest)]

Well, I'm departing from AT&T and embarking on a new journey with T Mobile. They paid off my family's four phones up to $3200 and gave us four new phones on the house.

[Tim Pool]

Bon voyage.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Will Tanner]

Should we let them burn down Congress just because it would be mean to stop them?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Also just remember the person who's pointing to that like everybody that they know is gonna be like and you're a conspiracy theorist.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right. The real actually I want to say something real quick. You know, as Phil makes comments about TOS violations. Good luck YouTube, your TOS, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, whatever will not exist in a civil war state. Impossible. The you look at the troubles in Northern Irish Island. There is no way to operate a social media platform that coexists with with these two groups because they are both justifying and celebrating the death of each other. So what do you do? You open up Twitter and it's everyone with big fake smiles just going like this. Everything's fine. And then you look out the window and a bomb goes off. Your social media platform will not work when you have two distinct moral worldviews. Because I can put it like this, you can go on social media and express a universal evil is evil because everyone agrees where there is a bifurcation is when you get into trouble. The TOS violations largely center around the political views of the people in control of the platform. They are this is what Jack Dorsey argued the reason why they banned misgendering was because certainly literally everybody Agrees it's wrong. And then I was like, no, they don't. Don't conservatives have an inverted worldview? They think misgendering is if you call a man a woman not their preferred pronoun. And. And Dorsey was flabbergasted. He. These people genuinely thought the rules they set were the majority of the country, and the people who are complaining were the fringe weirdos. When you have an active civil war type scenario, what do you do? How are you going to enforce the terms of service?

[Phil Labonte]

I imagine you kind of don't, I guess. I mean, well, unless you. I assume because of the way that. The way that civil wars generally behave is the companies will align with whoever the government is saying is right.

[Tim Pool]

In. Indeed. In which case, perhaps they just start banning all the leftists because Trump is in power. Maybe Kimmel got fired. But I'll put it like this. Did anybody get banned from social media for celebrating the death of Solomon Haney?

[Phil Labonte]

No. No, that's right.

[Tim Pool]

Because they're enemy combatants at war. Even though Donald Trump launched a drone strike on a guy. I think it was a drone strike. Right. And he was in. He was in Iraq, I believe. And then people all across social media celebrated it. Twitter didn't ban anybody. Facebook didn't ban anybody. They said, whatever. So what happens when you're an active civil war and you have the same scenario? I suppose you're right. If Trump is in power and he has the color of law underneath his belt, then they'll just start banning the left, and that is a massive weapon for the administration. Yeah, I. I don't see how the left can win without communications.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, I don't know. Well, considering the makeup of the left in the United States, I agree they're not particularly capable when you see the threads of what they're going to do after the collapse or whatever. It's all like, you know, give each other massages and. And I'm going to own a farm and whatever kind of, you know, I'm going to write catboy poetry or whatever, you know, So I don't imagine that these people are particularly prepared for any kind of kinetic conflict in reality.

[Tate Brown]

You know, you even saw it, Chaz, in Seattle, where they tried to, like, start a garden, but they just put, like, soil cardboard. So, like, they're.

[Tim Pool]

They're cooked, man. Have you ever seen the. When they gave the spider various drugs to see what it would do, they took. They took a spider or multiple spiders and they gave them different drugs. And they're like, here's A normal spider web. And it's beautiful. Then they were like, here's when we give it meth. And it's all like just big, thick, straight lines. They're like, here's. Here's caffeine. And it's just like two lines across. And they were like. The drugs had profound effects on the spider. That's how I feel when I see the Chaz Chop farm. Yeah, it was like, take a human, give him a bunch of drugs and weird mental disorders, borders. And that's how they try to farm. The aliens watching were like, that's sad. Yeah, it's like behavioral sync.

[Brett Dasovic]

I feel that way about a lot of, like all the discourse that we see with everything going on in the world. Like, how much is it actually affected by people are just on all a cocktail of uppers, downers, antidepressants. You know, as somebody who has been through all of that, like, a lot of people these days, they're just not living life with a clear head.

[Tim Pool]

Head.

[Brett Dasovic]

And it makes the world a much, much different place.

[Tim Pool]

Josh AT says Tim, we all need to take a step back and chill. Maybe you don't realize it, but we just won. And the public wants unity. And the public will get unity when the terrorists who are engaging in acts of violence are stopped. The public wants unity. Agreed. A man was just murdered. How do we get it when far left rioters who burned down cities for the better part of 15 years are brought to justice? Justice. And people feel like we have some semblance of peace. But if Trump just says, you're right, you want unity, I'm backing off. The left will come back with a vengeance and they'll kill more people. They're already threatening to kill many, many more people, including myself. The only way to get that unity that the public wants. And I agree, I want it too. Like I always say, nobody should want war. War is a nightmare. What I want is to kick back on my couch, put my feet up, order some hot wings, put on a poker match or something from wpt. Or maybe we'll play some video games and I'll enjoy some nice wings with my buddies and we'll talk, you know, about games or whatever the. The simplest of surface level luxuries. Maybe you like football and you want to talk about the crazy parlays you've got planned out. And you did John Fanduel. Whatever. Awesome. Let's go, baby. How do we get there? Well, the people who are stabbing, bombing, shooting need to be arrested and taken off the streets so the violence stops. That means Trump's got to enforce the law against them and then we might get some peace. And I'm gonna say it. The left is trying to create this, this, this world where they're like, if the National Guard are deployed, it's a nightmare. No, if the National Guard are deployed and they start pushing people around and unjustly searching and stealing your stuff and forcing money from your pockets, that's a nightmare. The National Guard walking around happens literally all the time and they don't cause problems. So there's a difference between deploying law enforcement and corrupt law enforcement. Now, I understand the libertarian fear that if you have National Guard off for too long, eventually you will get corruption for the short duration. I'm not so sure that I'm worried about that right now, because the alternative is dying. I'd prefer not, not to. I've grown quite fond of living so well.

[Will Tanner]

And also the framing on that is, I think, incorrect. We didn't win. We were given a martyr, sadly, whose death might enable us to win by, as you said, cracking down on the people who want to kill us. You can't unify with someone who's pointing a gun at your head.

[Tim Pool]

And you know what's terrifying is that the left succeeded by pushing the line slowly. That's how they were gaining ground consistently, because it was scary enough to where you don't wanna fight em, but they weren't massacring people. Then this guy killed Charlie Kirk, a moderate guy, a debater, and it's terrified everybody. They pushed too hard and the line broke and now Trump is like, that's, that's it, you have pushed too far. So I say, fine, let's get some law enforcement. But my friends, we're going to go to that uncensored members only portion of the show, which is going to get hot. And that is an understatement because of this designation of antifa. There's a lot we need to discuss and we want to take it to a platform on Rumble so where we can have freeform discussion without fear of censorship or reprisal. So go to rumble.com timcast IRL. Sign up for Rumble Premium. The first couple minutes we give you a free preview, but then it's going to switch over to paid members only. And we hope you join Rumble Premium so these conversations can happen. It's extremely important because communication is the most powerful tool in any conflict. And that's a fact. Crazy. The stories of human communication and warfare is really awesome. Drums, trumpets, then radios, satellites, hidden letters and jackets on Motorcycles. Communications is key. So my friends, you can follow me on X and Instagram Timcast, but also join the Discord server server. If you want a permanent location to hang out and communicate with like minded individuals and you want to support the work we do timcast.com right now, click join us, sign up, get in the Discord server and let's talk. How about you sir? You want to shout anything out?

[Will Tanner]

Yeah. If you are interested in this sort of thing or colonial history, check me out on substack. It's TheAmericanTribune News. I write about stuff like this all the time and post about it on Twitter, but I think you'd find it enjoyable and interesting. Even if it's about depressing and sad subjects like this.

[Tate Brown]

You can find me on X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown. Give me a follow there.

[Brett Dasovic]

Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on X and Instagram at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. But what you should do is check out Pop Culture Crisis. Me and Mary are live Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time, which is of course noon Pacific. See you there.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm Phil that remains official. No, I'm not. Not anymore. I'm. You can follow the band. All that remains on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music Panel, Pandora, Spotify and Dieser. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

You're not fill that remains anymore.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no, not fill that remains official on Instagram. I'm not. I don't have the Instagram anymore, so.

[Tim Pool]

Oh. All right everybody again. We'll see you [e-mail] Timcast IRL thanks for hanging out.