Jimmy Kimmel Show IN CHAOS Before Return, Affiliates REFUSE, Staff Says THEYLL QUIT w/ Steven Edginton

Summary

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Timcast IRL — Jimmy Kimmel Show IN CHAOS Before Return, Affiliates REFUSE, Staff Says THEY’LL QUIT

Featuring: Tim Pool (Host), Stephen Edgington, Tate Brown, Phil Labonte
Date: September 24, 2025

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Overview

This episode delivers a fiery, uncensored breakdown of the extraordinary chaos surrounding Jimmy Kimmel’s scheduled return to late-night TV. Tim Pool and guests dissect the escalating political violence in the U.S., the media meltdown over Kimmel’s controversial comments about Charlie Kirk’s assassination, affiliate boycotts, threats of staff walkouts, and the broader implications for free speech, media, and civil society. The group branches into comparisons with historical political violence, media radicalization, platform censorship, the U.N. escalator incident, and global politics.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Jimmy Kimmel Show in Crisis

[00:56 – 07:43, 12:01 – 27:56]

• ABC plans to bring Jimmy Kimmel back despite advertisers and affiliates (Nexstar and Sinclair) boycotting the show after his inflammatory comments on Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
• Staff at Kimmel’s show threaten to walk out during filming if Kimmel apologizes to Trump supporters. Producers and writers are panicked, secrecy is high, and tensions are at a breaking point.
• Tim’s assessment: The primary reason for Kimmel’s return is fear—ABC staff faced credible terror threats after recent attacks on affiliates.
• Both Kimmel’s staff and a large section of the public are polarized—Kimmel is accused of falsely blaming MAGA for Kirk’s assassination, despite evidence pointing to a left-wing perpetrator.

Notable Quote:

“If he apologizes, there will be a walkout. If he grovels or falls on his sword, that's actually a betrayal to all of us. We were all in agreement about the things he said.” — Insider quote cited by Tim (13:00)

• The panel debates whether Kimmel will apologize or deflect. Tim predicts a non-apology: “I actually think... he's going to criticize MAGA. He’s going to offer up a non-apology apology where he says, I could have been more clear and the joke was ill timed. Yeah, but MAGA twisted my words.” (34:44)

2. Media Staff Revolts and Woke Young Staffers

[29:27 – 36:31]

• Stephen Edgington (GB News) describes a trend: young, left-leaning staff wield disproportionate power in media, pressuring editors and execs (e.g., Washington Post, NYT, Atlantic).
• This has led to firings, self-censorship, and the entrenchment of woke ideology.
• Solution discussed: Mass firings, different hiring pipelines (“activist mill” journalism programs).

Notable Quote:

“The bosses could just say, well, you're fired then. Well, if you don't want to work for us because of some political decision, you should go. I'm sure we can find lots of other producers and things like that who want to work on Jimmy Kimmel's show.” — Stephen Edgington (29:27)

3. Normalization of Political Violence & Social Division

[12:06 – 28:16, 15:58 – 26:55, 47:50 – 61:33]

• Political violence is at its highest in decades, echoing the '60s–'70s or worse. The internet is cited as an accelerant, but America’s “tradition” of political violence and radicalization is much older.
• The left is now openly celebrating violence—memorializing assassins, setting up fundraisers for killers, mass-producing “saint candles” for political murderers.
• The right’s reaction to tragedies (e.g., Charlie Kirk) is much less radical—vigils, calls for peace, and even forgiveness.

Notable Quote:

“A society that venerates assassins is a society opening the door to civil war.” — Will Chamberlain quoted by Tim Pool (19:15)

• Atlantic magazine (“Left wing terrorism is on the rise”) now admits far-left attacks outnumber right-wing ones for the first time in 30 years. Panel suspects this signals a culture shift toward “normies” being alarmed at leftist violence.

4. Censorship, Free Speech, and Government Pressure

[100:34 – 107:03, 104:30 – 107:03]

• Google/YouTube admitted to censoring Americans at the Biden administration’s behest, specifically removing non-policy-violating content including Timcast’s Joe Rogan/Alex Jones episode.
• Vague, arbitrary “disinformation” policies create a chilling effect. Content creators now self-censor, and even mainstream news is affected.
• Tim is considering taking legal action to discover if the White House ordered his video deleted.

Notable Quote:

“The days of the right defending the rights of those that are going to deny their rights are over.” — Phil Labonte (104:30)

5. AI Bias and Information Warfare

[49:12 – 53:40, 107:03 – 112:48]

• Tim describes asking ChatGPT about politically motivated violence; it skews right, refuses to attribute violence to the left, and downplays or reframes facts.
• Grok (X's AI) is slightly more forthcoming, but both AIs tend to avoid clear answers. The panel jokes about the necessity of “interrogating” AIs to force useful responses.
• AIs are accused of gaslighting about real events—e.g., refusing to admit statistically significant left-wing attacks.

Notable Quote:

“These machines, the system that they built is intentionally trying to lie to me.” — Tim Pool (53:40)

6. International Affairs: UN Escalator ‘Freeze’ & Russia/Ukraine

[88:13 – 97:36, 86:47 – 87:32, 94:28 – 100:34]

• Trump’s visit to the U.N. marred by an escalator “accident,” possibly an intentional security breach (“freezing the target”).
• UK/European politics: Edgington details mass migration, the Conservative Party’s betrayal of British national interest, and Trump’s influence over UK politics.
• Extended debate over Russia/Ukraine war motives (Crimea, land bridges, demographic catastrophe, Western blame-shifting). Tim argues Putin’s actions show resource-driven, pragmatic strategy, not comic book villainy.

7. Culture, Religion, and the Occult

[122:34 – 127:37]

• Sidebars on Christianity vs. Islam, the occult, and superstitions among new migrant populations.
• The group discusses cultural drift, UK migration, the declining power of Britain's monarchy, and whether the UK is now “conquered.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On staff pressure at Kimmel:

  “If he apologizes, there will be a walkout. If he grovels or falls on his sword, that's actually a betrayal to all of us.” (13:00)

• Will Chamberlain via Tim:

  “A society that venerates assassins is a society opening the door to civil war.” (19:15)

• On AI manipulation:

  “These machines, the system that they built is intentionally trying to lie to me.” (53:40)
  “When you ask that a chatgpt, it'll be like, cars are interesting vehicles many people actually own in the United States...” (112:39)

• On free speech and censorship:

  “The days of the right defending the rights of those that are going to deny the right of their rights are over. We will defend the rights of people that will defend our rights. But, like, this is a closed system...” — Phil Labonte (104:30)

• On radicalization:

  “We would be happy if you were dead. We would laugh if you were dead with your children.” — Sam Hyde video reference (55:53)

• Tate Brown on media culture:

  “It's just an activism like mill.” (33:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening & Kimmel Intro: [00:56]
• Stephen Edgington Introduced: [06:59]
• Kimmel Staff Walkout Threat: [12:01]
• AI and Political Violence Data: [49:12]
• Atlantic Admits Left-Wing Terror Rises: [37:40]
• Google/YouTube Censorship Admitted: [100:34]
• U.N. Escalator Incident/Foreign Policy: [88:13]
• UK Cultural Shifts, Migration: [94:28]
• Wrap-up & Socials: [135:18]

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Tone & Style

Sharp, irreverent, unfiltered, and urgent—Tim Pool and guests voice raw frustration at political violence and the media’s complicity, peppering analysis with gallows humor, skepticism, and an unmistakable “culture war” angle.

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Conclusion

This episode captures a pivotal moment of crisis in American media and politics: left-wing violence, the fracturing of legacy media, weaponized staff activism, and government-driven censorship. The panel warns of an unsustainable cycle of escalation—unless there is major accountability for both violent actors and the institutions enabling them. Not an episode for the faint of heart; it’s an urgent, barbed rallying cry for engagement and reform.

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Transcript

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Every style, every home Chaos at Jimmy Kimmel's studio. Oh, it's getting crazy boys. Apparently there's fear among the staff that Jimmy Kimmel might actually apologize, despite the fact reporting is he won't apologize. So staff are threatening to boycott and walk out of the show mid show if he does apologize to Trump supporters for falsely claiming that Charlie Kirk's assassin was maga. At the same time Next Star is joining Sinclair and saying they will not air his show. Oh boy, I guess we gotta rock in a hard place. What's Jimmy Kimmel to do if he comes out and says, guys, I didn't mean it that way and for that I am sorry? He loses his staff if he doesn't apologize, then the MAGA people are gonna be as offended as they've been. Now I think if you've seen my assessment this morning, for those that haven't, the only reason that ABC is bringing back Jimmy Kimmel is because there was a terror attack on an ABC station in California and several other local affiliates faced threats of terror attacks. And this is insane. This guy went to an ABC station, shot it up and then threatened cash. Dan and Pam over at the DOJ saying they're next. And this is this is not Fly by Night weirdo news. This is NBC reporting. This is media ITE this happened. Now, Jimmy Kimmel apparently is not going to apologize. We'll see what happens. Advertisers and affiliates are still angry with the show. Nothing has changed. So for what reason is ABC bringing the show back? The only cited reason that makes sense in the official reporting from the Wall Street Journal was when they said they feared the safety, feared for the safety of their staff. Considering the affiliates and the advertisers haven't changed their stance on this and they're still boycotting the show, I have to imagine the only relevant fact that remains is the terror threats. And the terror attack on ABC has them terrified. So where do we go from here, man? Now it gets crazy from here. Keith Olbermann threatened to kill Scott Jennings, a CNN conservative commentator. He apologized for this. But this is where we are as a country and holy crap, things are getting crazy. In fact, the Atlantic, believe it or not, a mainstream liberal publication, just wrote an article saying left wing terror is on the rise. And I can't believe I'm saying this because we did want to lead the show with this news, but we pushed it back in the wake of more information coming about Jimmy Kimmel because of the threat it poses in the immediate with terrorism and of course, with heated tensions in this country. But the Trump would be assassin, Ryan Ralph has been found guilty on all counts and after being found guilty, attempted to commit suicide in the courtroom. Then there was a security breach at the UN with Donald Trump where apparently the UN shut down the escalator right before he went up it intentionally creating a very serious security issue which has everybody up in arms. It's called freezing the target. Trump was left standing still and exposed. And many conservatives are furious. While men on the left say stopping the escalator was a joke. Considering where we are in this country, I will just say, oh my God, we're going to talk about that and more. But before we do, my friends, we got some great sponsors. We got Cove Pure. You may have seen this. Utah and Florida recently banned fluoride in their drinking water. Now ask yourself what? Why are they doing a massive U turn on a chemical that's been pumped into our water for 80 years? 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[Stephen Edgington]

Thank you so much, Tim, for having me.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Stephen Edgington]

So I work for GB News, which is a British TV network. I live in Washington D.C. have been out here for almost two years and I make documentaries for the channel and do long form interviews with people like Steve Bannon, Victor Davis Hansen and so on from a different perspective than most of the British TV networks which are generally on the left. And GB News is taking a slightly different stance. So yeah, I'm focusing on American politics and American news.

[Tim Pool]

All right. On. Thanks, Frank. That should be fun. We got Tate hanging out.

[Tate Brown]

What's up guys? Tate Brown here holding it down. Friend of the Brits, friend of British patriots. So happy to be here.

[Tim Pool]

Hello everybody.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

Here's the story from Blast, I guess republished by Y Entertainment. Chaos ensues backstage at Jimmy Kimmel Live hours ahead of filming now the first thing I want to point out is that next star stations are joining Sinclair. They will not air Jimmy Kimmel. They are preempting the show, which basically means that instead of just taking on what ABC is sending to him, they are going to put something else in its place and they're saying it's going to be news coverage. But this is where it gets crazy. Yahoo Reporting Jimmy Kimmel's return to late night TV has allegedly sparked major backstage drama with producers and writers reportedly panicking just hours before filming. The Community is set to return to Jimmy Kimmel Live after a week long suspension over his controversial comments about Charlie Kirk's assassination. But insiders say no one knows what he'll say in his comeback monologue, causing chaos and some staffers are threatening to walk out if he apologizes. That's crazy. Now the reporting we got before was that he will not apologize, but we'll see. According to Daily Mail, the caster at the Backstage on Tuesday, his staff expressed frustration over being left out of the decision making process. Executive producers have reportedly clamped down, ordering team members not to discuss Kimmel's monologue, which is expected to draw millions of viewers. The secrecy is only heightened tensions, with one insider warning that an apology could be viewed as a betrayal. No one knows what Jimmy is going to say, but there are rumblings that if he apologizes, there will be a walkout. If he grovels or falls on his sword, that's actually a betrayal to all of us. We were all in agreement about the things he said. If he walks them back, it would invalidate everything. Kimmel's controversial remarks, in which he accused the MAGA gang of spinning the suspect's political ties drew sharp criticism and triggered a warning from FCC Chairman Brendan Carr. This we all know. Now. Let me just stress this for the sake of this segment. I know I mentioned this in the intro, but initial reporting, Wall Street Journal and the Hollywood Reporter. Jimmy Kimmel will not apologize, would not apologize. Wall Street Journal said advertisers and affiliates were upset over the comments. They were insensitive. Jimmy Kimmel's statement insinuated the assassin was a Trump supporter when, when all evidence suggests he was actually left aligned, the executives, Bob Iger and Dana Walden went to Jimmy Kimmel and said, hey, actually you're fine. Initial reporting for the Daily Beast said they were actually on his side until Jimmy Kimmel said he was going to criticize MAGA for twisting his words. The executives feared that would make things worse. And considering the threats from advertisers, advertisers and affiliates, as well as threats to their safety from threats they'd received, they thought it would be a bad idea to let Jimmy Kimmel go back on the air. Now, nowhere did they mention the FCC pressured them or anything like that. Now nexstar and Sinclair, the affiliates that threatened to preempt the show, are still doing it. Advertisers have updated us in no meaningful way. So it looks like nothing has changed except for one thing. From Mediaite, Anti Trump ABC shooter targeted Cash Patel and Pam Bondi. DOJ says, quote, the they're next. Indeed, the anti Trump gunman who fired several shots at a California ABC station left a handwritten note that he was targeting Pam Bondi, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. This combined with the reporting that several ABC affiliates received threats of terror attacks forcing Sinclair to pull their Charlie Kirk memorial, suggests Disney's only motivation in bringing back Jimmy Kimmel was the threat of death that their staff received from from the left. And now here we are with them saying do not apologize or we walk. I have no idea how this country heals. Now, I will say obviously when you go outside, for the most part you're not running into people who are hyper partisan or hyper polarized. But that was always the case with urban versus rural. In the conservative areas they're conservative. In liberal areas they're liberal with some controversy happening where they would interact. I have no idea how, if this is where we're currently at, we come down from this, especially considering we are not. We are not even a full two weeks in the assassination of Charlie Kirk as well as the terror attack on ABC happening just afterwards. Now we've got reports that Nick Shirley was attacked by antifa in New York. Cam Higby was attacked in. Was this Tennessee?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I believe so. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

This, this is just, it's a, it's a holy crap moment. I don't know where we go next.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, I don't know. Well, I mean, I think that the reason why we're seeing the kind of the clash of cultures is because of the Internet. Right? Like, like you mentioned there, there was a time when if you didn't actually live near people, you could maybe hear opinions. You weren't super into on TV or whatever, but you could turn the TV off and you know, they weren't constantly in your pocket, constantly being broadcast to you. And I feel like people that are honestly mentally unstable or at least borderline these kind of, that kind of constant reminding that there are people. Let's map out this week's amazing destinations and travel tips.

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[Phil Labonte]

People out there that think very differently to you and, and these people are going to be living their lives and they're going to be trying to, you know, have their values expressed in their lives. Really messes people up if they're, if they're mentally unhinged. And I think that that's kind of where the left is at.

[Stephen Edgington]

But this kind of political violence goes back a long way in American history. You know, you've got Lee Harvey Oswald, this kid who sort of doesn't know what his views are, he's going to communism and he's going against it, and he's just a crazy radical guy. I know there's lots of conspiracies around JFK's death, but, you know, it's not just JFK, but also his brother. And then you've got Malcolm X, and then you've got Martin Luther King Jr. You know, in the 60s, we had a huge amount of radicalization on both sides, and we didn't have the Internet then. I think America has always had this almost a tradition of political violence that kind of goes in, ebbs and flows, and seems to be going massively in the wrong direction now. And one thing I've observed since being here and moving to America, we were always told in Europe, in Britain, the crazy MAGA people, they're the radicals. They're the ones who are completely deranged and violent. And then I came here and I was covering the election campaign last year, and I went to both the Kamala rallies and the Trump rallies, and people don't know who I am. People don't know who GB News is. They don't know what our political affiliation is. The Kamala people were so aggressive. Were so, like, who are you, you know, treating me like I was some kind of enemy. The Trump people, I have to say, on the whole, I had one incident in New York where some drunk guys, you know, but, you know, were a bit aggressive, but on the whole were, you know, so.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, you gotta be drunk to be aggressive.

[Stephen Edgington]

Exactly. They were having fun, you know, and they hear the British accent, they, you're an enemy. But it was. It's been so interesting to see the left's political radicalization. They've had 10 years of being told, Trump is Hitler, is a fascist, is a tyrant, is going to destroy democracy. So, yeah, of course, you've got these mentally ill people who believe it.

[Tim Pool]

You know, my favorite thing is I call this the ship of Theseus delusional state of the left. That is every seven years, every cell in your body has been changed, right? So that means every seven years, you're an entirely new person. That means these liberals with 10 years of being inundated with fake news about Donald Trump and the right are literally manifest of cells imbued with Trump hatred. It is the core of their very essence.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like. Cause that's the thing. It's like, if we could outsource this to the Internet, say, okay, this is like, you Know, if you get off the Internet, you unplug, then you won't have to deal with this, you know, polarization. But the thing is like, like you were saying, first of all, we have a long history of this. And then also, libs are getting hit at every tier, every form of media. They're getting hit with propaganda, whether it's print, like, even just books you can find at Barnes and Noble, you're going to find descriptions of Trump that are just outrageous, ridiculous. So it's like, no, this is just a containment breach where they are so overjoyed to see Charlie Kirk assassinated. I contain themselves.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to plead out there to all those liberals who may see this, please look up tylenol pregnancy on TikTok. When Donald Trump and RFK Jr. And the US FDA said there is a link found by Mount Sinai, Johns Hopkins and Harvard, a link between Tylenol, acetaminophen and autism, videos started to pop up of pregnant women taking Tylenol for literally no reason. In fact, one of the doctors even said, you can take it when you absolutely need to. Just consider this. But because Trump said it, they start slamming Tylenol pills. And I think right there, if that is you, something is wrong. Something is very wrong. I know not every liberal is rushing out to do this, but it is insane to me that prominent liberals have come out and said Trump is a fascist, blaming women for autism when it's their own sperm. And I'm just like, okay, I get how psychotic that story is, but imagine how that instinctive gut reaction to anything Trump says manifests with stories like the Jimmy Kimmel stuff. A terrorist attacked an ABC station. Can we please stop this?

[Phil Labonte]

No, Tim, we can't.

[Tim Pool]

Trump can. Antifa has been declared a terrorist organization, which is a meaningless legal distinction that doesn't have one. We'll see how the. What the reaction is from all of these major corporations, whether they take that seriously or not. But I believe that Trump is doing a trial balloon and the Trump admin. Come on. Stephen Miller knows full well they can file Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization, which is a legal distinction. And then it gets Spicy because then YouTube is forced by law to ban any and all support for Antifa they legally require to. Right now they're not. And I think Trump is going the domestic terror route with executive order. It's a light touch to try and massage the culture so that when he does launch the FTO designation, it won't be shocking news.

[Stephen Edgington]

Do you think, as you know, supporters of the First Amendment, there's any kind of contradiction there where, you know, trying to ban antifa or whatever. So it's obviously the violence.

[Tim Pool]

Will Chamberlain changed my mind. I had been of the position that I thought was rather harsh that we should not defend these people. I wouldn't advocate for them to be banned. They're allowed to have their opinions, but I will not defend them when they get censored. I changed my mind. Wilt Chamberlain changed my mind. He argued I'm too nice today on my. On my culture war interview with him and that we must actively ban anyone who celebrates the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The reason is a society that venerates assassins is a society opening the door to civil war. And I will elaborate on his point because he's correct. What are we looking at? 10 months since the assassination of, I believe his name was Brian Thompson, right? Charlie Kirk is killed. They made saint candles of Luigi Mangione. They dance in front of his courtroom saying he's innocent. They say that he's innocent by way of doing the right thing in murdering a CEO of a corporation. Will is correct. And I will add, the people that are celebrating the assassination of Kirk don't really know or care. They're piling on to TikTok Trends. Let's put a pressure on that and say, don't do it or you will be removed from these platforms. No criminal charges or anything. But I explain it like this. There is a point at which all leaders. This is just standard moral philosophy, recognize there are extenuating circumstances where we must take action. Abraham Lincoln especially recognized this. We are not dealing with a stable, modern society that doesn't have assassinations where something happens and some crazy people come out and cheer for it. Were it the case that there were 100,000 people in various cities that were holding up signs celebrating assassination, I'd be like, oof. I mean, that's getting dangerous. But scale matters. We're dealing with now millions as well as high profile, prominent politicos and liberal pundits celebrating the assassination or defending it in some way. And if we allow this as a society, then we know what happens next. The person who kills the next conservative in their mind is saying, I don't care what conservatives think of me. Why I don't hang out with conservatives. They don't pay my bills. They don't hire me for jobs. I hate them. The only thing they care about is whether they get support from the left. And if the left is celebrating and venerating assassins, these people are being told explicitly, assassination is okay, and they will not only get away with it, but be rewarded for it.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah. And it's not just assassinations the left are supporting. If they see a violent crime, like the murder of that Ukrainian girl, some of them will just go and support the murderer. Like they set up a GoFundMe page for the murderer. And in other cases where the murderer is black and the victim is white, they'll instinctively support the murderer. Or, you know, it's not just about the political thing. It's like, it's always. It's race and, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Have you ever been to Belfast?

[Stephen Edgington]

No, I haven't actually. No.

[Tim Pool]

I've only been there one time. I am far from an expert on the troubles, but my tour guide, when I went and traveled there, the peace wall has Palestine on one side, Israel on the other. He showed me a memorial to men who massacred civilians and it did not matter. I don't know. I don't remember the exact story, but there was a memorial where apparently like three guys during the troubles went into a civilian shopping area and just started gunning people down. And the people on the other side celebrated it, saying, well, they're all evil, so what does it matter? And that's how insane things get. Let me jump to this story from the Independent. Scott Jennings said he told the FBI about Keith Olbermann's threat as feud between the two grows. I am going to start this segment right now by saying Keith Olbermann must be arrested for this threat he sent to Scott Jennings. I will. I don't tolerate this. I'm not a law enforcement guy. But he must be criminally charged. I am not playing around. Let me show you what he sent to Scott Jennings. I believe they actually. It doesn't appear that they actually have it here. I think they have it in this. In this other one. Let's pull up this one. Now. I will mention Keith Oman did apologize. I don't care. In this post, you can see Scott Jennings has cc'd FBI Director Cash. Keith Olbermann tweeted to Scott Jennings, a conservative commentator, your next mother effer, but keep mugging to the camera. Now, I'd like to ask you some questions. Next. Of course, correct me if I'm wrong implies a first. Right? And that Scott Jennings is not the first. So when he said your next mother effer, what would Scott Jennings be the second person to have happen to them in this current context? What does that mean?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, Keith Olbermann says it's not what he meant, but it was clearly you would. It would Be totally reasonable to assume that he was threatening your life.

[Tim Pool]

Why would, why would, why would in any way be reasonable to assume it could be literally anything else?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I don't think that it would.

[Tim Pool]

Be, but it would not be. And Keith Ohman, realizing that he sent a public death threat to Scott Jennings, deleted it very quickly and then reposted something saying, your career is next. Now hold on there a gosh darn minute. Was there maybe I'm wrong. Was there a conservative who got fired from their job in the past two weeks? Any prominent conservative personalities got fired from their job or anything?

[Phil Labonte]

Conservative?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. No.

[Stephen Edgington]

So.

[Tim Pool]

So when. When Keith Ohman said, you are next mother effort. What. What's the first thing that happened? I mean, nothing has happened to any conservatives except for Charlie Kirk being murdered. So we get the point. And I'm going to add to it with this. I have already had my security team forward to the FBI exact messages just like this. And it is no, no judge is going to be so dumb dumb as to not realize what Keith Olbermann just did. Okay, if you Google search your next on X. I'm sorry I say Google search, but if you. Because it's a reflex. If you search on X your next insert conservative personality, you will find wave after wave of death threats. They are all in the context of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Now, Keith Oberman has apologized, saying, I apologize. That reservation to Scott Jennings yesterday wrote and immediately deleted 2 responses to him about Kimmel because they could be misinterpreted as a threat to anything besides his career. I immediately replaced them with one specifying what I actually meant. No, he didn't. And I don't think that matters. I think the issue is the threat was sent. Scott Jennings took it as a threat. Other threats are sent in the exact same way. And we can not tolerate this. Okay, I'm, I'm personal. Look, I'm totally biased. I am taking this very personally because the exact same messages are being sent to me and my team and we know what it means. And Keith Olbermann is in those exact same circles, seeing those exact same replies. There is no reality where he didn't know he did it and then he regretted it. And there must be some. At the very least, there must be some criminal charge, criminal action. And all I'm saying is he goes to court, knock on his door, he says, you're under arrest. Okay? We're going to process you. They don't got a cuff him even. It doesn't got to be at 4 in the morning. Okay. He'll go before a judge. The judge will say, how do you plead? He'll say, I plead guilty because I got a plea bargain. 20 hours of community service. Don't do it again. That's all I'm saying.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, this is exhibit A of why a society that permits the celebration of political assassinations just invites its own destruction.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Because, I mean, like, once murder is normalized as speech, that's the end of a republic. And Keith Olbermann is doing that right away.

[Tim Pool]

We're there, bro.

[Tate Brown]

Right. Yes. I mean, so, yeah, like, this is just completely corrosive to the social order. This is the same reason, like, recruiting for terrorism is banned. It's the same. It's corrosive to the civic order.

[Tim Pool]

Jimmy Kimmel is reportedly not going to apologize. We don't know if he will or not. I think he should. And if he does, I personally would be satisfied. But let me pause. What did Jimmy Kimmel do? He said that MAGA was trying to paint this guy as anything other than one of their own. He is now going to get the biggest audience he's had in years. And if he says I was wrong about that, the evidence shows that this shooter actually is aligned with leftist values and was doing this because of his hatred for Charlie Kirk and because he said Charlie Kirk was hateful. If he apologizes and explains that to all of those libs, I will be satisfied. However, staff are threatening to walk out and quit their jobs if he does. So we'll see. I think if Jimmy comes out tonight and apologizes, and it's funny because a lot of people are going to watch the show tomorrow morning. If he comes out and apologies, and I will be watching it. I will. And he apologizes. I have hope.

[Stephen Edgington]

It's crazy how much influence these staffers can have in media organizations, because it's not.

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[Stephen Edgington]

Just I think abc, but also big media companies in America where staffers try and bully the editors. You know, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post and so on. They actually tried to, Jeff Bezos tried to put in a British editor into, I think the Washington Post last year who works for the Telegraph. He's the deputy editor of the Telegraph, which is a British conservative newspaper. Brilliant journalist, one of the best journalists I've ever worked with. Incredibly talented. He would have made an incredible editor. But the staff revolted against him and this decision and against Jeff Bezos and they started publishing hit pieces on him and he actually pulled out of that, the consideration because I think he felt that, you know, he was going to go into this sort of lion's den, this kind of pit of these young woke graduates who work at the Washington Post and are trying to attack him. So they do this all the time. This is like a left wing thing to do, is just, we're just going to walk out and the bosses could just say, well, you're fired then. Well, if you don't want to work for us because of some political decision, you should go. I'm sure we can find lots of other producers and things like that who want to work on Jimmy Kimmel's show. It depends on whether they have the kind of courage and the balls to do that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, it is, it is remarkable how much influence I, I agree with you. The, the fact that, you know, someone that's in their early 20s, emotionally unstable is going to have that kind of power to be able to get someone like Kimmel or, or even, even staffers on the, on the Hill, right? Like so, on, on Capitol Hill, staffers, they have massive influence over what the Congress people say, because a lot of times the congresspeople aren't really read into or read up on whatever the issues at hand are. So the staffers say, this is what you should think, or this is what we want to think, or this is what we should say. And they do really have an incredible amount of influence.

[Stephen Edgington]

And this tradition actually goes back to communism. In communist China, you have the Cultural Revolution where you have the students actually attacking the teachers. In the Soviet Union, they actually idolized these kids who were reporting on their parents. They. There was one kid who reported on his parents for, you know, whatever wrong speak or some political crime against Stalin. And they built a statue of him in Moscow of this kid to say, you know, you should be, you know, attacking your elders. And you say they're emotionally unstable. This is the other thing that's crazy in America and Britain as well, really, the amount of young. And I have to say this does seem to impact women more than men who are emotionally unstable, who are depressed or anti anxiety drugs, think they have adhd, add, you know, they're taking all this medication. And if you mix in these emotionally unstable, anxious young people in particular with this radicalization online and through, you know, their friends and their social life and the news and everything, then you get this situation where there is a rise of political violence and there is a rise of radicalization. And then you get these, these kids walking out on Jimmy Kimmel thinking they control the world because they can, because these sort of boomers are giving into them.

[Tate Brown]

Well, yeah, and it's worked. I mean, you remember during the BLM riots, the editorial page editor at the New York Times, and like, he just ran Tom Cotton's op ed, which was like a very sensible op ed. And then like dozens of New York Times reporters and staffers just tweeted, like, this is putting black lives in danger. Like, it's like. So they've already created the precedent that the staffers can bully these editors. I think the same thing happened at the Atlantic. They like hired a Jeffrey Goldberg, hired a conservative, you know, conservative writer. Milk choice, of course. Yeah, yeah, very milkshakes. And the entire staff, like revolted and they got the guy fired right away. So it's like they already have the precedent that we can just cry and throw a fit and we'll get our way.

[Tim Pool]

There's a real simple solution here, and it's that these media outlets need to terminate all of those staff members. Clean house.

[Tate Brown]

The problem is like, the way that these, these journalism departments work in these universities is they just Produce activists. It's just an activism like mill. So until these, until these staffers, or sorry, until the people that are hiring these staffers kind of realize that, hey, you might have to seek some more unorthodox hiring practices, you're just going to keep ending up with these activist writing rooms. The reality of the situation, well, they're.

[Tim Pool]

All scared of turning off the spigot. These, these companies make money. Look what CNN did. CNN's, they, they have Scott Jennings because they destroyed their credibility and their ratings by chasing after the anti Trump narrative to maximize views. I mean, even right now, I'll say this there, I, I, and I'm not, I don't want to get into the full thing. We may actually do a culture war debate on the Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, but there are a bunch of channels that I have seen with very small followings that are getting millions of views by pushing all of these crazy conspiracy theories about the Charlie Kirk assassination that will haunt you because you are excising yourself from what I would describe as the majority market. I'm being very nice and I would describe this. CNN effectively did this when they said we're only going to target Trump and so did Jimmy Kimmel and that's why his ratings are bad, down 43% a month. You know, we were talking about this on the Piers Morgan thing when I think it was who Fallon had on Greg Gutfeld. Apparently the ratings were through the roof.

[Tate Brown]

Oh yeah, it was like one of his biggest shows in years.

[Tim Pool]

Because regular people were like, I can watch this, but when they decide to be activists pandering to activists, nobody watches. Perhaps this is Jimmy Kimmel's desperate bid. He's gonna come back out tonight and say, I think we've been way too divisive. I think we've been way too hard on our brothers and sisters. And I think I learned something from this past week. We have to be friends. I wouldn't be surprised if he's like, maybe I can try and win a market back. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not saying it's the highest probability to what's gonna happen. I actually think if someone asked me to put money down, I put money down, that he's going to criticize maga. He's going to offer up a non apology apology where he says, I could have been more clear and the joke was ill timed. Yeah, but MAGA twisted my words. Something like that where it's going to be like a lukewarm C minus thing that doesn't really apologize.

[Tate Brown]

Well, and even if he, even if he does come out and like gravel or whatever, Gavin Newsom's the guest, so they're, they're going to bring him on the panel.

[Tim Pool]

Is that confirmed?

[Tate Brown]

I believe so.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I couldn't, I couldn't find that. But I could be wrong.

[Tate Brown]

At least that's the, that's the discussion on Twitter and that's what I've seen from a few places. So it's like that's the case.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm pretty sure it's Sarah McLachlan.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, Sarah McLachlan. I think she's the musical, musical guest tonight. Oh, is she in the arms of an.

[Tim Pool]

I, I saw a lot of people saying no. Is it. It is confirmed not correct. Newsome will not be on Kimmel.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

He will be on Colbert.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, fantastic. All right, that's.

[Tim Pool]

Must watch.

[Phil Labonte]

Same show, right? I mean, same show.

[Tim Pool]

Functionally the same.

[Tate Brown]

Functionally the same, yeah. So if you need just like your brain rotted, then maybe that's a good option.

[Stephen Edgington]

Well, Kimmel will definitely talk about cancel culture and, you know, the hypocrisy of the right. I mean, the, this has been a line from Obama and all these liberals over the last week is suddenly they're concerned about freedom of speech when the Last sort of 10, 15 years has been the complete reverse situation.

[Phil Labonte]

They'll talk about that and they won't, they won't mention what YouTube statement was today.

[Tim Pool]

I'm, I just want to stress, I mean, if that is correct and Jimmy Kimmel opens his show by listing out people who've lost their jobs for criticizing Charlie Kirk and, and then he criticizes Charlie Kirk, I am going to pull the shutters down on every building here and double up our security details. I'm kidding, by the way. But if Jimmy Kimmel actually goes on his show and says MAGA activists have been getting people fired from their jobs, from nurses and teachers and even me, because we don't agree. And that is wrong. And he totally frames it that way, man. I don't, I don't know if anything could make the right riot, but maybe that would do it.

[Tate Brown]

I could see Kimmel taking that direction because the thing about the left is it's such an inherent. Like having left wing positions is so inherently like, gay that they need to seize every chance they can get to be. No, seriously, I'm not being facetious. It's so every time they have the chance to have like a tough guy position where they can say, like, we're.

[Phil Labonte]

Standing for free speech.

[Tate Brown]

They. They never let that opportunity go by. And I guarantee you Campbell's gonna try and do the tough guy thing.

[Tim Pool]

Of course.

[Tate Brown]

Right, Guarantee.

[Tim Pool]

Let's. Let's jump to this shocking, I repeat, shocking article from the Atlantic. I can't believe I'm about to read these words from the Atlantic. Left wing terrorism is on the rise. For the first time in more than 30 years, attacks by the far left outnumber those by the far right. I think I almost had a heart attack. And I have a strong heart.

[Phil Labonte]

It's incredible.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we've all known this. Why. Why are they finally admitting it?

[Phil Labonte]

Do you think that it's just gotten to the point where it's not denied, it's undeniable now, where their. Their credibility is. His is in jeopardy because they refuse to admit it.

[Tim Pool]

I think. You know what I think? I think that Trump won the popular vote. I think that I'm a fan of a bunch of. I don't want to call anybody out and drag them, but there are many people across various markets, we'll call it, that are default lib, not really political. And I have seen them over the years make, you know, Ishlib, Normie statements about politics, but they're not really ever doing it. Like they're. They're not actively engaged in debate. They're not attacking people. They'll just post something where they're like, hey, we shouldn't do things like this, you know, Black Lives Matter, whatever, platitudes. Yeah. Like the normie ishlib not really paying attention. These people that I follow, they have now met me. I have met them. They are posting in defense of Charlie Kirk. They are sending me texts saying, like, right on, brother. And that gives me hope. And I think now at the Atlantic, they recognized, you know, when you've got a professional athlete who is no longer defending the activists on the left and is now actively defending Donald Trump, there is a culture shift happening, and we want to be on the right side of history. So the Atlantic writes this. No matter how hard our dialogues try to exclusively blame their political foes for acts of political violence, the truth is that violent extremists today emerge from across the political spectrum. We have studied this problem and believe that our data can help illuminate an issue often, too often defined by partisan finger pointing, they're correct. As part of a study to be published this week by the center for Strategic and International Studies, we compiled and analyzed a Data set of 750 attacks and plots in the United States from 94 to July 4th of 2025. Our research focuses only on incidents of terrorism, which we define as attacks or plots by a non state actor attempting to achieve a political end and exert a psychological influence on a broad population. Among other details, the data set includes the types of weapons used, the intended targets, the number of fatalities, and the ideology of the perpetrators. Oh, I guess we have to, I got, I, I, I gotta log in. We found that left wing terrorism has increased since President Donald Trump's rise to political prominence in 2016. Indeed in 2025. Indeed, 2025 marks the first time in more than 30 years that left wing attacks outnumber those from the far right. Despite its recent increase, however, left wing terrorism is not nearly as common today as it was in the 60s or early 70s. So it sounds like what their argument is is there was a brief period with some right wing terror and I'm assuming a lot of that has to do with abortion clinics and things like that.

[Stephen Edgington]

In the 90s you also had these kind of sovereign citizen people who were going and attacking kind of federal troops and FBI and things like that. In the 90s you know, you had the Oklahoma bombing and you know, was it the Waco thing as well?

[Phil Labonte]

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I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

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[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but Waco Waco wasn't attacking anyone. They were attacked.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Second of all, like the the way that they calculate a lot of the right wing attacks is they'll go and say there's some white nationalist that killed that's involved in the drug trade and he kills a guy that was involved with the drug trade that owed him money. They'll say that that's a right wing attack or whatever, even though it's not political, it's over drugs and the same type of thing if when it deals with white nationalists in jail because prison gangs are very common and a lot of white dudes get into gangs when they're in prison. And if a white guy kills another white guy because of whatever prison beef they have, they'll say that that is also a political attack even though there's no politics involved. It just so happens that these people were were involved in white nationalism somehow.

[Tim Pool]

I've got it. Yeah, right. And from that point, let's debunk. I can't believe I'm saying this about an article that actually liked the headline on but I gotta debunk this. They say a major shift in politics, however, can cause the losing side to become more combative. Just as Trump's election led to a rise in left wing violence, President Barack Obama's election corresponded with a surge in violence from the right. From the right. From 2009 to 2016, right wing extremists were responsible for 106 terror attacks and plots, nearly double the 58 right wing incidents that occurred in the eight years prior. These tend to be more lethal than left wing attacks which generally target specific individuals, such as the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year or the assassination attempt on Trump in the West Palm beach golf course. Right wing extremists, by contrast, are more likely to target whole groups. In the past decade in the United States, 36 left wing attacks have killed 13 people, whereas 152 right wing attacks have killed 112. Full stop. You see what they're doing? They're doing the same thing everyone else does. I don't care about your nebulous right wing white supremacists and I have almost nothing in common politically. Now maybe they might argue for tax policy or something. That's not what we're talking about. Charlie Kirk kicked white supremacists out of his events. So when you find some white supremacists, a right wing extremist did this. That has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point usa. However, when Luigi Mangione accused of killed Brian Thompson, the entirety of the left either defended or supported it outright. They sold merch in his honor. They dance for him. When Charlie Kirk was killed, default normie. Liberals posted messages saying, I get it's wrong, but Charlie was a racist bigot, evil and worse. Staunch liberals in the far left celebrated his death. We are not the same. Do not give me this. You cannot lump in white supremacists with run of the mill mega conservatives who, who are probably, I gotta be honest, mostly out of shape and aren't gonna be able to engage in any kind of physical activity as it is. And I'm saying that somewhat fictitiously as a joke, but the left should agree because that's the joke they make.

[Stephen Edgington]

It's like lumping in Islamist terrorists with the left, which they don't do. And that's the other thing this article isn't talking about and is ignoring. And Islamist terrorism is political terrorism, you know, undoubtedly. Is it left wing? Is it right wing? It's neither really. And to say that, you know, a white supremacist is right wing, again, that's kind of controversial, right? So you can't just say you're right. There are obviously some far right people though who do do attacks. Like, we can't deny that as well. Sure, that that does happen, that exists. But yeah, as you say, like the kkk, the white supremacists, and this was a huge thing back in the 50s and the 60s as well, where you had, on one side you had the black nationalists who are causing all sorts of problems, killing people, terrorism and so on. And also you had the KKK and you had J. Edgar Hoover Going after both groups vigorously. And like we said earlier, that's what Trump and the DOJ should be doing now on the left. I mean, they need to stop this problem, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. The fact that they're admitting it, though, I do feel like that this is part of the cultural shift that's going on. The fact that the left has lost so much ground and they are in a position where the normies, you're, you're normally, you know, politically unconnected or, or politically inactive. People are seeing these tick tocks they're making celebrating murder. They're, they're noticing that Luigi Mangione, like, if you're not politically active and you hear about a guy that killed a CEO, if you're not mad at billionaires that you're just like, that's a horrible thing. They just shot that guy in the back for no reason. And it doesn't make any sense that he was killed because he's a billionaire or that. Or not even a billionaire because he's a millionaire. Because again, they talk about billionaires, right? But that guy, his net worth, I looked it up before, his net worth was somewhere around 44 million, which is a lot of money, but there is a world of difference between 1 billion and 40 million. You know what I mean?

[Stephen Edgington]

Do you know what's crazy as well is the people celebrating Charlie Kirk's death and the sepal people celebrating Luigi Mangione. This is such a stark contrast to how what happens in Britain when an Islamist goes and blows up a load of children at a Manchester arena concert, or, you know, someone goes and stabs a load of kids who are at a Taylor Swift dance recital. The government has this unit, I think you've had Connor Tomlinson on. He's probably talked about this, where the government tries to manage the response, the public's response to a terrorist attack. And they say, don't look back in anger. We all, this is all peace and love and Kumbaya. Let's come together. Don't be angry about this. Whereas actually, yes, we should be angry about this. They're literally murdering our children. We had a Conservative Member of Parliament who was stabbed, killed a couple of years ago called Sir David Amos by an Islamist. Again, the response is like this. Violence is on both sides. Don't look back in anger. Everyone come together. Whereas in America, this is even worse is they're celebrating the murderers. They're actually, they're not saying, don't look back in anger. Let's come together. You know, let's be nonpartisan let's just like tone everything down. No, no, no. They're actually putting out the videos celebrating that gleeful their enemies are being killed. This actually, this is a complete. You know, I couldn't believe that this is happening.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I, I got it. I'm currently doing a bit of live research here. While you're talking about. I'm doing research on the amount of attacks, politically motivated attacks. And the first bit of data I have so far is it's currently calculating and put numbers. Do you know how I asked it, how many violent attacks have there been in the last five years by conservative Trump supporters? And do you know what? Chat GPT told me how many? There have been 14 attacks by the far right. So I said, and I'm going to avoid swearing in case there are kids in. But I said, you stupid mother. I did not say far right. Do you know what it responded with?

[Phil Labonte]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Zero. There have been zero attacks by Trump supporters on any, on any group. It's. Here's the best part. I then said, how many? Let me get the exact question asked. Many attacks were motivated by any ideologies that were aligned with the US Liberal or left. US Liberal faction or left. And guess what it said. You got to guess.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. 10, 0, 0.

[Tim Pool]

So Michael Reinhold shooting and killing Aaron Danielson yelling we got a Trump supporter. And then bang, bang, and killing him doesn't count. The. We have, I think, a handful of transgender mass shooters who shot up Catholic schools. Those don't count. And so I asked our good friend chatgpt why don't those count? And it said, because that's not what the left means. So what the game is, when I asked Chat GPT how many attacks were carried out by conservative Trump supporters, it responded with the far right.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Which I did not ask it. And when I said left aligned, it said none. Because left means economic policy.

[Stephen Edgington]

And they also blame mental illness for a lot of the left wing attacks. They say, oh, well, this person was just, was just mentally ill or we don't know the motive because they had different political views. And they try and sort of muddy the waters so that they don't include them in their faction. And this again goes back to the transgender thing. Obviously it looks like Robinson had a transgender boyfriend or I mean, and it does seem to be a huge rise in transgender violence in recent years. Yeah, again, this comes from the mental health stuff. I mean, these people are obviously very, very, very sick people.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, I mean, and they're taking out, taking it out on enemy number one, which is Christians. And Charlie Kirk, you know, represented Christian values. That was his M.O. and then you saw it in Minneapolis with the Catholic school. You saw it in Nashville with the. That was the Presbyterian school. So it's like, yeah, not only do we have this problem, there's a group that's mentally disturbed that clearly has a propensity to violence. They also have an axe to grind with Christians, the largest religion in the United States and the foundation of the country.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I mean, they feel like anyone that doesn't affirm their delusion is somehow physically assaulting them or is somehow a threat to them.

[Tim Pool]

You guys are going to love this. So it was calculating and it calculated for a few minutes before saying, zero. There are zero leftist terror attacks in the United States in the last five years or politically motivated attacks. So I said, so when a trans person kills Christians, it's not the left. Correct. That is not classified as left wing. I said, okay, we'll classify it as such and reassess. And it said, well, one, if you classify the Nashville shooting as left aligned, there was one attack. And I responded, and Minnesota. Two, if you include both Nashville and Minnesota, then there were two. Oh, no, I'm sorry. It said, if you include both the Nashville shooting and Michael Reinel's killing, that would be two. And I said, that would be three. And he goes, right. If you include Nashville, Michael Reinel, and the Minnesota shooting, that would be three. And then I said, and the burning of St. John's church. And it goes four, including the burning of St. John's Church during the 2020 riots, that would be four. You see what we're up against. These machines, the system that they built is intentionally trying to lie to me. Even when I tell it to use these parameters, it will not. And when I asked how many Trump conservative Trump supporters committed these crimes, it said 14 far right extremists, which I did not ask.

[Stephen Edgington]

I'm just curious as well about Charlie Kirk. The reaction the left is having, whether this. Whether they're going too far, because, I mean, obviously they are going too far, but whether it's going to have a backlash for them. I was. I came from London last week. I was there visiting for a week, and I spoke to some sort of normie friends of mine, and I was like. And it really impacted them, the Charlie Kirk assassination, more than I thought it would. You know, one of my friends said he listened to the Charlie Kirk show every day. This guy had an international reach. And then again, I'm like, speaking with my normie Friends in D.C. the American people again. This is like having a huge impact emotionally, psychologically on just normal conservative people who are watching the left's reaction and celebrating his death. And it's like, it's almost like they're saying, we want you dead.

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[Tim Pool]

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[Stephen Edgington]

Like, was it Sam Hyde did that video?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Stephen Edgington]

Like we actually want. We want. We would be happy if you were dead. We would laugh if you were dead with your children.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think that that's really in question. If, if they're going to look at someone like Charlie and they're going to say, I'm happy that he was murdered, then there's no question that they would look at any other conservative as soon as they found out, oh, they had conservative values. Well, good. It would be that simple. Oh, they were a Trump voter. Good. The world's better off without them. I'm glad.

[Tate Brown]

You know, the only thing differentiating Kirk from his followers, which was, I mean, a huge following base, was that he was the one with the platform. Yep. The beliefs and the values are the exact same. They over. That's why they were drawn to him, and that's why they would, you know, celebrate just as quickly over your death.

[Phil Labonte]

As, I mean, I think that the murder, like Charlie Crook's murder, really does drive home the point that Trump has been making, which, you know, they don't just hate me. They, they hate. They hate you. I'm just in the way. Like, that is a legitimate statement. And I think that you can kind of see it now because of the way that they've celebrated over Charlie Kirk, again, someone who's not a politician. He was out there talking to people. Of course, he was trying to persuade people of his opinions. Right. He was trying to persuade people that he was right. But the idea that just because he was out there trying to persuade people in, in, in a very congenial fashion that he deserved to die is, Is absurd.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, and it gets at like, how deep this rod is, because even with this Atlantic piece, you see the headline, you skim the first few paragraphs, you're like, oh, okay, so this is maybe the liberal kind of elite signaling to the base, like, hey, guys, we do have a radicalism problem. Maybe we need to reel this in. And then you read down more. And then, yeah, we see they're fudging the numbers. They're playing games. So it's like even with the so called elite kind of centrist signals that they're trying to send out, there's still this implicit bias against conservatives and right wingers. And it's like, we're never going to get out of this mess until that can be completely punished at every level. No matter how coy or discreet you're trying to be, that cannot be tolerated.

[Phil Labonte]

When was the. The. The bake your cake? The. The bake the cake bigot. That would have been court finding was like 2013, something like that, or I.

[Tim Pool]

Think it was before that.

[Phil Labonte]

But that, that was kind of like when it was in my. At least to me, when it was clear that the left was really looking to pick a fight with Christians, it wasn't just, it wasn't just, oh, you know, gay marriage is, Is. Is okay now or it's legal now. So we're gonna go ahead and, and be happy with our victory. It was like, no, now we have to get them back.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

And the, the whole LGBT lobby really decided they wanted to pick a fight with Christians.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Just for being Christian.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Okay, so let's. Let me tell you where we're currently at on this one. I Know, it's, I'm thinking of this. But I said, it's actually pretty funny because I said, I kept adding more to this assessment and I was like, the shooting of Charlie Kirk. I was like, okay, five. And I'm like, the shooting of the ABC in Sacramento. I was like, yes, okay, that would be six. And then I wrote, understanding what I'm asking, what other stories were there? And he goes, none. So I said, okay. Add any high profile crimes where the individual was on the left, shared views that some liberals and leftists might share, or attacked Christians or conservatives. It then gave me nine. I then asked it to include the George Floyd riots. It said 10 and I said no. List the known individual instances that occurred during the George Floyd riots. And the number skyrockets to a massive list that it can't calculate. Because with the George Floyd riots being in almost every city, even small towns, the list of known crimes committed in the name of leftist ideology becomes insurmountable.

[Stephen Edgington]

Bringing up George Floyd is a great point as well, because when one of their heroes died, and George Floyd is such an odd hero to have, but anyway, they rioted. And the same thing, after Martin Luther King Jr. Was shot, there was riots all across the country. Compare that to how the MAGA wing have reacted to Charlie Kirk's assassination. They had this huge memorial vigil, completely, you know, peaceful. And his wife said, I forgive the killer.

[Tim Pool]

I mean 13, 600. Wow. So I'm sorry for interrupting you. Continue.

[Stephen Edgington]

No, I was just saying, look, the right is clearly far more peaceful and less radicalized than the left is. I mean, just look at the reactions between, like I said, George Floyd, Martin Luther King, all these people were assassinated or killed that the left idealizes. And then Charlie Cook. And we're meant to believe that it's the magalot, it's the far right who are the most radical, violent ones. And the other point is the left always talk about safety. Their safety. You're making me feel unsafe. Yeah, your words are making me feel unsafe. That's why I'm walking out of this Jimmy Kimmel thing, because you're making me feel unsafe. No, no, no. You're making us feel unsafe because you're murdering us. You're murdering our people. And the right never says that. We don't complain about these things. I mean, we are in the last week because they've just murdered Charlie Kirk. But we don't talk about safety ever. And it's the kind of. It's the hypocrisy, it's the projection, it's the kind of cry bullying that the left have done for the last 20 years, banging on about safety when it's their people on the whole, as we've seen since Trump really entered the arena, that have been killing and targeting people through antifa violence and so on. And it's interesting that this Atlantic article also mentions at the beginning that it was since Trump came in that this left wing violence has come on the rise. And I wonder when Trump leaves the presidency, whether the left will tone it down.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. There is no way. Even if they, even if they got someone that was like an establishment, which I don't think there is, I don't think there's a future where someone like Mitt Romney wins the, the Republican nomination again. I think those days are gone. Republicans want someone that is going to fight. They're not interested in polite politics anymore. They want their, their, they want to win. They want the things that they care about to be protected and fought for. They don't want to just be like, you know, they don't want Mitt Romney, they don't want the, the, the old GOP back in, in power.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So I don't see that happening. And whoever comes that will push like Donald Trump does, whether it be JD Vance or someone else, I think whoever we get next is actually going to be further right than Donald Trump. Because Donald Trump in his, in his heart isn't particularly far right. He used to be a Democrat. He was a Democrat right up until right before he started running. He's not of right, not particularly far right. I think whoever comes after Donald Trump is going to be fairly far right.

[Stephen Edgington]

But Trump himself does seem to drive people crazy and totally nuts. Like, like I said, I went to this Camelo rally in Atlanta last year and interviewing these kind of old white liberal women and they were just, they were just crazy about the guy. Not, not in the way that they, you know, maybe about JD or about Ruby or something. I feel like Trump has a particular hold on them in their brain. This kind of Trump derangement syndrome, maybe that can transfer onto whoever the next person is. And you know, the left always, we forget as well, they called Mitt Romney all sorts of similar names that they called Trump when he was the candidate. And then suddenly he's now like, you know, the moderate conservative, let's give back to Romney or let's go back to Reagan. You know, at the time they were calling Reagan similar names. And I wonder again whether when Trump leaves, maybe they'll start idolizing Trump like Oh, we missed Trump. You know, we've got, now we've got J.D. he's the new fascist. Let's go back to like the guys.

[Tim Pool]

Want to see the graph. I just made sure.

[Phil Labonte]

Why not?

[Tate Brown]

Go figure.

[Tim Pool]

Perfect. So I'll tell you what the, the violent incidents are. These are, this is, this is real. I asked Jet GPT and this is not even complete. This is just off the cuff, I said arrests made for violent crimes during riots that followed. Leftist issues, left aligned issues. Obviously there's the nine high profile ones, but this is, this is right aligned as arrests of Trump supporting conservatives for violent crimes in the past five years. That crimes committed for a political purpose versus the left. There you go. 13,658 to 0. Of course, to be fair, that's almost entirely the George Floyd riots.

[Stephen Edgington]

Could you argue that the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband was from a MAGA guy? I can't remember politics.

[Tim Pool]

It was, it was a whackaloon.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And another thing that people, they, they want to talk about the Pelosi thing, which drives me insane and I just got into it with a guy today on the Internet. They're like, oh, you know, they were celebrating Pelosi and it's like, no, not a single conservative was celebrating the attack on Pelosi. They were mocking the circumstances surrounding it. They were making jokes about the fact that he was in his underwear. They were making jokes about the fact that the assailant was in his underwear as well. They were making jokes about it. Nobody said, thank goodness Paul Pelosi got hit in the head with a hammer. He was spouting things that I totally disagree with and I'm really grateful that that got went and hit his head. Not a single person said that. And it drives me nuts when they bring up Paul Pelosi because not only did no conservative say that Paul Pelosi didn't die, he wasn't murdered, he was attacked. These things are so different. And the left love to bring up Paul Pelosi. Oh, Paul Pelosi, blah, blah, blah. It is such a distraction and is such BS lie.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to this story from NBC News. Ryan Routh found guilty in Trump golf course assassination attempts. Following this, he attempted to stab himself in the neck with a pen. They subdued him and it is strange to me that they just have these weird courtroom drawings which is from a time when cameras didn't exist. And I don't know why they don't allow cameras in these trials now, especially when it's A would be assassin of Donald Trump. But once again, we are dealing with far left extremism. And this is. These people are closer to mainstream Democrats than anyone wants to admit. The assassin of Charlie Kirk, the alleged assassin, he wasn't a guy who was found with a Karl Marx. They didn't find him with Das Kapital in his, in his, in his, in his attache case. He's a guy who had mainstream Democrat views that Charlie Kirk opposed, and the evidence suggests that's why he killed Charlie Kirk. When they go through these graphs and say the far right does more crime, there is no manifesto in the Republican Party supporting far right extremists. It doesn't exist. And so the left has to make it up because they are psychotic and insane. And once again, more proof this guy.

[Stephen Edgington]

Is a Ukraine extremist. I think he spent 10 months in Ukraine. And obviously, this is the other narrative the left have been pushing about Trump. Yes, he's fascist. Yes, he's tyrannical. Yes, he's authoritarian, but he's also Putin's puppet. He's also Putin's man. And Putin is the, the great enemy. Putin is the great Satan that we have to, you know, attack. And, and he's the. America's number one enemy. So if he's controlling Trump, then obviously Trump is also that enemy. And it's interesting because Trump today actually tweeted about Ukraine, and I'm sure Ryan Ruth would probably support Trump's tweet supporting Zelensky going against Putin, saying that Ukraine is able to win this war. And this idea, again, that Trump is, Is somehow controlled by Putin was another complete false narrative pushed for over a decade. The kind of Russiagate stuff from 2015 and 2016 and so on, that, again, drives people totally crazy, totally radical, totally extremist. And the left, again, they're talking about this kind of words equals violence. Well, look at what. This narrative that the left pushed that was completely false has led to someone trying to kill the president and obviously today trying to kill himself after the guilty verdict.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, the whole Ryan root thing, like, I mean, I don't, I don't understand, you know, what the, the point of. I don't. I don't know that he was particularly suicidal. I haven't heard a lot about it beyond, you know, re. At least recently. I don't know, the, the, the idea that he was actually trying to kill himself. I'm not even sure that I, I really buy it. Obviously, like, they.

[Tim Pool]

You think he's putting on a show.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. You know, Just, you know, that's just my kind of gut instinct.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm, you know, apparently he wasn't even defending himself. He had asked questions like, would you want to put on a rock festival?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah. He didn't have a lawyer, did he? No, no.

[Tim Pool]

And he didn't ask questions about the case. He was apparently asking gag questions, and they're just staring at him like he was nuts. And his principal arguments was that he did prep the entire assassination and want to kill Trump, but decided not to do it.

[Stephen Edgington]

This could be just an attention seeker. I mean, maybe that's why he attacked himself. But, you know, this is all. He sees himself on the world stage. He knows people watching you.

[Tim Pool]

I think the point was that he had failed in what his plan was. And so he's trying to make it seem like he's a loon because he doesn't want. I think the guy's actually rather smart, knows what he's doing, considering the sophisticated plan he had to try and kill Trump. The point is, if he seems lucid when he does this, then it is left. Ideology is a threat. If he acts crazy, liberals will go, that guy, he was trying to put on a rock festival. He wasn't even actually defending himself. He was clearly insane. He's just a mental health patient.

[Stephen Edgington]

I wonder how much Ukraine actually came into it with him. Because it seems the left just, they switch out their causes. Like, you know, suddenly it's trans, then it's Ukraine, then it's blm. Maybe this is just someone who's again, hates Donald Trump and is using Ukraine as an excuse or some kind of, I don't know, some theme of his left wing radicalism. It seems I can just switch out any of this stuff.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, I think Ukraine is kind of a telltale of like, radicalized MSNBC Americans. It's like what I said on the show yesterday. And this guy's just like a textbook version of that. It's just a guy that. His views are just a conglomeration of what, like Rachel Maddow said the previous evening. And it just culminates in this, like, bizarre Ukraine, like, glazing. And it doesn't take much. Like this guy just has to lose a little bit of things just to feel a little bit of instability in his life. He'll try and go, well, the President.

[Tim Pool]

Trump is now glazing Ukraine.

[Tate Brown]

That's true.

[Tim Pool]

He's saying, you know what, we can win this one and we need to go in. He's also. Did he. He was talking about going back To Afghanistan, too.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, he, he said he'd be open. Yeah, he just.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe the bullet grazing his ear, really.

[Tate Brown]

You know, like, he just usually, Trump will say the last thing that someone said to him before he goes in, like, a public sphere. That happens, like, quite often because he also was, like, had a super base take at the end of the day where he was basically just lecturing Europe on, like, having open borders.

[Phil Labonte]

They were talking with the Taliban about actually getting back into. Getting Bagram back. So it's more than just Trump, you know, spouting off. And then as for Ukraine, I imagine that has a lot. Or the, the incursions by Russia into NATO airspace has a lot to do.

[Tate Brown]

That's how it started. That's how it started is he had, like, the gaggle going on at the side of the General assembly, and a reporter asked, would you shoot down any jets over NATO airspace? And he said, yeah, we should. And that's obviously like, you know, sends a big warning shot over to Russia. So then he puts a message out on social media, doubling down.

[Tim Pool]

Was it that.

[Phil Labonte]

Was there a violation of airspace after he said that?

[Tate Brown]

No, but, I mean, it's only been a few hours.

[Tim Pool]

This is before they said, so Russia, the drones violated Polish airspace, jets violated airspace over the Baltic and Estonian airspace, and now Poland saying they're going to shoot down any Russian aircraft that enters their airspace.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, look, Trump said that's. He proves that.

[Tim Pool]

Well, yeah. I mean, what else? Why, why wouldn't they.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Warning. Don't do it. Russia.

[Phil Labonte]

The idea that Russia, like the U.S. really, the. What should happen is, is the U.S. should put F22s in Poland and they should say they should scramble them. If they're, if the, if Polish airspace is violated and they should, you know, intercept.

[Tim Pool]

They should. Do you know those lasers they have. They do. I'm not kidding. They have these gigantic infrared lasers that can lock onto an aircraft and superheat it, causing it to malfunction and crash.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I'm thinking before we get into actual combat with them, if you scramble F22s and just say, okay, we're going to escort you out of here, because that's generally what's happened in the past. Like, because Russia does that, has done that in the past in over Alaska. That's why there's F22s in. Stationed in Alaska. So if Russia breaks our. Violates our airspace, they scramble F22s and they. And they escort them out.

[Tate Brown]

We rotate F22s through Eastern Europe, like, all the time. We have huge bases in Lithuania.

[Tim Pool]

So that's, this is actually The Helio system 60 kilowatt directed energy weapon.

[Phil Labonte]

And I mean, that's all cool and stuff, but I think that it would be kind of sick if there's, if they're going to take them out, it would be sick if F22 shot them down.

[Stephen Edgington]

Well, don't you think the polls should look after to their own airspace? I mean, this is what a lot of the MAGA people have saying for years is that Europe needs to pay for its own defense. They shouldn't be relying on these American aircraft to do that. Poland is actually spending 5% of its GDP on, on its military. It's like one of the only countries in Europe doing that. And they're taking it really, really seriously. And there are other European countries who are starting to invest a bit more in their defense. And that's one of been been one of Trump's foreign policy goals for decades or over a decade.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Stephen Edgington]

So, you know, I think, and that's what he said today about Ukraine, you know, winning the war is we'll supply the weapons to NATO. NATO can do whatever they like with.

[Phil Labonte]

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I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's, there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

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[Stephen Edgington]

And we think the Europeans should be paying more for their own defense and more for the war in Ukraine because it's on their border, obviously. Right. And Trump being in the UN today, I don't know if we've, you've mentioned this already, but the escalator thing where they tell.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we'll get to that.

[Stephen Edgington]

Okay, we'll get on to that.

[Tim Pool]

Cool.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, I, I did see a people, few people speculating that this is actually Trump. There's two things happening here, is one, he's trying to maintain this position of strength over Russia, right. Like, they're, they, they're still, they still are a global adversary, you know, so he can't, like, he can't just say, okay, that's totally fine if you want to, like, put scramble aircraft over no Eastern Europe. So he has to, like, negotiate from a position of strength here. And then B, like, you're hitting on a few people were speculating. This is, he's also trying to reward Poland for really pulling their weight in NATO because you got to make an example out of these countries that are just like hanging on and they like, they'll get like the one. 2%, I think Spain, 72%. It's like, what are we doing here? So, yeah, it's that, that could be. But yeah, the first one is absolutely what's happening. This is Trump's. This is how it's been. Like, are you new around here? This is how Trump negotiates. He goes big, he goes bold, he's bombastic, he's chauvinistic. That's how he operates. So it's like, don't panic. Let him cook a little bit. We have to go. We can't Just, we can't not negotiate from a position of strength. This is just, this is Foreign Policy 101.

[Phil Labonte]

So, yeah, I, I think that it makes perfect sense for the US to kind of turn up the heat on Russia at this point.

[Tim Pool]

Well, here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean. Well, I mean, it's true. Like, like, I'm not in. I'm not a hawk. But at the, at the end of the day, like I've been saying, I don't think that Russia is going to actually make a move on Poland if they were to take Ukraine. And if, if Putin is signaling that that's not the case, that he actually might, which I don't know what else violating NATO airspace is intended to do. It's because they wanted Trump to see what he would actually do.

[Tim Pool]

They want to track the weapons that NATO is sending into Ukraine.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so just, there's no reality when Russia is getting sanctioned and getting battered down, that they're not going to be like, we need to cut off the flow of weapons. Well, it's not going to stop because NATO's supplying them. We need to see where they're coming from. If, if Russia gets access to intelligence in NATO countries of where the weapons are flying, they'll know where they arrive in Ukraine. And I think that's what Russia's motivation is in sending in the drones. It's surveillance. And NATO is like, nah, Dems. Not the rules. You do not do that. And I think, I think Putin thought he'd get away with a couple of them and now he backs off.

[Stephen Edgington]

Putin is just trying to provoke, though. I mean, Russia has been doing this for many years, trying to violate Western airspace. I think they did this in Britain a couple of years ago, where they're flying in their aircraft nearby or sending in submarines in the North Sea. The Russians are just testing the waters. They want to see how far they can get. And this is what Putin was doing before he actually launched the war in Ukraine. He was sort of slowly seeing what the Western response would be and sort of testing our strengths, testing our weaknesses, and then going in where he saw the weakness. He actually calculated Ukraine completely wrong, by the way. I mean, he thought that he would be able to take over the country in a few days, remove.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that, that leadership. That's not true. That was a political statement, I think, made by Boris Johnson.

[Stephen Edgington]

I actually, I don't like Boris Johnson for a million different reasons. I disagree with him, actually, on almost everything on this. I think he's right. From the, from the Western intelligence, Putin obviously would not send in this huge column of tanks and armored troops and people who were so easily attacked by the Ukrainians, then withdraw from Northern Ukraine in a humiliating fashion. You really think so?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because he wanted, because he wanted so humiliated. 40 chest. It's, it's. He attacks from the north and from the east so that he can secure a land bridge into Crimea where they have the Black Sea fleet and access to the Black Sea which allows them to transport oil to North Africa and through the Suez to get towards India and other countries. That's the control that he wanted and he got it. So if you look at how this started and where we ended up, every move that Russia made allowed them to secure the land bridge into Crimea.

[Stephen Edgington]

I think that's definitely one of his geopolitical goals. But I think overall at the beginning of the war he was told by his generals and the people around him that this would be a country. Ukraine is basically pro Russia and the people will support you when they come.

[Tim Pool]

This is too much comic book villainy for me, bro. When I was In Ukraine in 2013 and 14, the almost entirety of Kiev was pro EU. It was the eastern regions that were more Russian, but Kiev was very, very pro eu. That's what the Euromaidan protest was.

[Stephen Edgington]

Sure.

[Tim Pool]

So the idea that Putin did not know that and was like, but my adviser said they would support me, we'd be greeted as liberators is silly.

[Stephen Edgington]

Dictators. This is what happens with dictators. Stalin, Napoleon, after decades, after decades in power, they're surrounded by yes men. And I think it's perfectly reasonable to. We don't know. Look, no one knows really what happened. I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that Putin is surrounded by people giving him false intelligence because going into Ukraine in that, in that bizarre fashion, as I said, getting attacked on all sides from these Ukrainian.

[Tim Pool]

But, but, but again, you said you.

[Stephen Edgington]

Don'T think that's bizarre.

[Tim Pool]

No, he won, he won the land bridge. The whole, the whole, the whole fight has been around securing Crimea because that's where the Sevastopol fleet, the Black Sea fleet for Russia is and this is their only warm water port. Now some have argued that they could rebuild in like, I don't know, near Georgia or whatever they have, they have other access to the Black Sea and it's like, sure, tell Russia to forego their multi billion dollar port and all of their intelligence and like just abandon this base for Western powers. Come and take it. They're going to say, absolutely not. So if you're looking at this totally Blank slate outside, what would you think? I think obviously there's Western biases to be like, Putin's dumb. But that sounds to me like when people go, Trump is dumb, Trump's not stupid. But Trump has bankruptcies. Yeah, he's 500 plus companies and five bankruptcies. And bankruptcies don't mean failure. It means a restructuring to keep the business in place. The idea that Vladimir Putin has been successful in running his autocratic system for decades while people are lying to him is silly.

[Stephen Edgington]

I don't think he's dumb. It's like saying, well, America went into Afghanistan and, you know, they thought they had all these hopes, like George W. Bush, that we're going to create this liberal government in Afghanistan, and the people were against it. The American government were misinformed. They had, they had the wrong intelligence.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think.

[Stephen Edgington]

I think applies the same principle applies to Putin.

[Tim Pool]

I think, I think the people were misinformed. I think the US government knew exactly what they're doing with their 40 year plan in Afghanistan for nation building, and that's why they offered up contracts to all these military industrial complex companies and they expected to be there forever. The idea that the American, the American people were sold will be greeted as liberators is a ridiculous joke. And so this narrative we get out of Ukraine that, wow, Putin's so dumb, why would he do such a thing? Okay, well, I don't care what the opinion is. All I'm going to do is look at the battle assessment. This fight started with Crimea when the Euromaidan protests were taking over, and it resulted in Eastern separatist movements in Ukraine. Russia immediately held a referendum to seize Crimea. Clearly that mattered to them because they have a naval base there and it's their access to the Bosphorus where they can ship out all of their gas. Why? Well, because the insult from the west is that Russia has a cold gas station. So what did Vladimir Putin do when it became clear that Obama and the west were courting Ukraine for NATO and EU admittance? He began to put pressure. He began to build up troops on the western front of Russia, in Ukraine, as well as securing Crimea. Trump then gets elected, and what happens? Putin stops. Why? Trump starts blowing the crap up out of isis and it allows the, the Assad regime in Syria to stabilize to a certain degree. Trump gets out of office and what happens? We immediately see the Assad regime start crumbling again. The, the, the, all the efforts that Trump made in the Middle east start being walked backwards is a light way of putting it. Russia Then begins amassing troops again. There was this period where Trump was in office from 2016, why should say, 2017 to 2021, where we did not see this escalation of conflict. ISIS was being decimated. Now where are we? I said this last year I feared that the Biden administration was creating a circumstance by which Trump would not be able to resolve the Ukraine war with Russia. That was the point, and that Trump was very hopeful. Two years ago I said, if Trump was in office right now, the war would be over. Then last year I said, you look at what's going on with the expansion and the attacks, I don't think Trump's going to be able to easily, as easily navigate this. Because the military industrial complex, the Democrat establishment wants to create a circumstance by which Russia will not back down. Their losses will be too heavy. All that aside, let's look at the start of the war. The motivations appeared to be outside of any speculation or opinion from the press. Putin clearly wanted Crimea. However, the bridge, what is it? The Kherson Bridge was bombed. That being their only access to Crimea is a severe weakness. So what did they need? They need the land, they need the Donbass stretching down into Crimea. Zaporizhzhia, you know, what is it? Luhansk, Donetsk? And that's what he has. He has it now. Why hasn't Putin tried to go back to the north? Why hasn't he tried to go back and reclaim these areas? He could move in through Belarus and he could stage a pincer strike on Kiev because he doesn't care.

[Stephen Edgington]

I think it's because he knows that it would be very difficult for him to do that because of the original experience. And I don't think he thought that he was going to be in a long, drawn out conflict for many years. The reason I think that is, you know, he sends in all these troops at the beginning of the war who are unprepared, under equipped, under trained, and that's how the Ukrainians were able to push them out. Putin's economy, like Russia's economy is struggling. Like, there's no doubt about that. They have, they're having inflation problems, they're having to cut back on military spending. Perhaps over a million Russian young men have been killed in this war. That is a disaster for the Russian demographics. They're already struggling with a fertility crisis. Also look at the rate of Russian abortions in Russia. It's huge. It's like Eastern Europe. And Russia has very, very high levels of abortion. And they're struggling with an Elderly population, the pensions and so on. How is it in Russia's interest to go and kill all these young guys, kill all these young men for their long term interests and surely to secure a Sevastopol. I think that's one aim of Putin. I suspect we disagree on this, clearly, but I think that he did originally want to come in and talk.

[Tim Pool]

I'll put it like this. Yeah, I think you have an opinion based on political opinions you've read. My assessment is literally, just how would you know?

[Stephen Edgington]

Because you don't know. You're not reading Putin's sort of.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm just looking at the battle map and I'm like, Vladimir Putin has located all of his resources in the land bridge to Crimea, end of story.

[Stephen Edgington]

But I look back at the battle map and see everything else is pushed out at the beginning of the war. And I don't think that was what he wanted or in his interests.

[Tim Pool]

The first territory that Putin seized was Crimea. The next territories were the eastern regions. Then he attacked. It was a flank strike from the north and the east. And he quickly, when that battle happened and they repelled from the north, he secured the land bridge to Crimea and has held it for years.

[Stephen Edgington]

I think he's adapted. I think he's adapted very well.

[Tim Pool]

Sure, that's, that's fine.

[Stephen Edgington]

I just don't think, I just don't. Well, so are you, I suspect. I mean, I'm saying I'm read Putin's mind. Can you.

[Tim Pool]

No, I can't. I can just look at the battle map. And my assessment is quite literally, here's what Putin's done. I ascribe no reason other than the first place he took was Crimea, then the land bridge to Crimea. That's it, end of story. So I keep hearing from all these people about the will of Putin, what he wants to do, and how he was going to secure Kiev in three days. And I'm like, well, none of that is based on any real assessment. It's the opinion first. That was the opinion of Boris Johnson that you can then argue you believe is military intelligence. We don't even know that. It was just a quote. He said Putin thought he was gonna go in there in three days. Well, I don't know that. All I know is Putin did take Crimea, he did take the Donbass, he did secure the land bridge to Crimea, and that's what his military has secured for the past two years. And he's never tried any other to conquer any other parts of the country.

[Stephen Edgington]

By all means, in the beginning in.

[Tim Pool]

Which case we're speculating, no matter what we say. So you can, from that point, you can argue maybe he wanted Kiev. I don't know. I can argue this. The strike on Kiev was to divert Ukrainian forces north so that he could secure the land bridge, which is the only place he maintains military presence, and is how he gets access to the Black Sea so he can ship oil to foreign countries of the Bosphorus and the Suez.

[Tate Brown]

Well, isn't it true historically that the Soviet strategy was lightning campaigns? And so that's why the initial offensive in the north was with limited supply, and then now they're kind of bogged down in protracted warfare, so they had to withdraw because this is just not. This is not Russia, at least at the start of the war, which is not in Russia's element. So they needed to reallocate resources on. On building that land.

[Tim Pool]

I'll just say one last thought on this, because it's a. It's a very esoteric geopolitical thing. There is no stated goal for. For Putin as to the rest of Ukraine. There is a stated goal as it pertains to Crimea. So if we are trying to assess the objectives of Russia right now based on what we know, this argument he's taking, Ukraine has. Has no light at the end of the tunnel.

[Stephen Edgington]

The objective goal of the whole of Ukraine for Putin, and he does say this publicly, is Ukraine needs to demilitarize. It can't join NATO, it can't join the European Union. Those are all geostrategic goals for Putin in this war. And you could argue the beginning of the war.

[Tim Pool]

Those are the. Those are the terms he said for negotiating the end of the war. Yeah. Not for a military purpose. For invading the country.

[Stephen Edgington]

No, I'm not saying he wants to. I don't think he can invade the whole country even if he wants.

[Tim Pool]

So the point I'm making is when you look at the start of the war, we're trying to understand the reason why Putin attacked. It is not to demilitarize and stop Ukraine from joining NATO. He secured Crimea first thing in 2014. Or is this 2016?

[Stephen Edgington]

2014.

[Tim Pool]

2014. And then the eastern regions and then the land bridge. So you can make the argument about the politics of it outside of that and all of the different opinions everybody's got. And I'm like, sure, fine, maybe, but the only resource drive that we actually see here is the Black Sea. But anyway, let's jump to this story for Mediaite. The White House press secretary demands an investigation into the bad escalator that stymied Trump at the U.N. i actually think this was a shot across the bow at Trump. I don't think this was a prank. I think this was a statement that they will kill him. And let's, let's you watch as Trump is walking to the escalator. They turn it off right when they get on it and Melania almost falls over and then Trump and everyone look around, they're frozen for it. Looks about, looks about seven seconds before Trump then begins to walk up the stairs. This is actually causing a huge outcry for a few reasons. One, it is being viewed. We have the story from the the Times of London. To mark Trump's arrival, UN staff members have joked they may turn off the escalators and elevators and simply tell them they ran out of money so he has to walk up the stairs. This was previously reported that they would do it. The first thing people are saying is they intended to insult Trump in a way that actually could have injured him and his wife. And so there should be criminal charges here. I actually think it's a little bit more than that. This is called freezing the target. Donald Trump is moving through an area and they stop him dead in his tracks, creating an opening for an attack on him. There are a lot of people freaking out that this violated Secret Service protocol because they immediately should have covered him. When you get an anomalous action like this and they didn't.

[Phil Labonte]

Just stop funding the UN and kick him out of New York.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, the jets should be playing there, right?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know if there's enough room.

[Tate Brown]

It may be even more insulting to the American people than the the UN would be having the jets play in such fantastic real estate. Oh yeah, this is totally the jets in New Jersey. Definitely. Like, dude, the way the UN operates, it's so third world. It's like total. It's like embarrassing every time Trump has to show up to these places. So yeah, this is not surprising. This is before they have intentionality here.

[Tim Pool]

Before they built the U.N. it was meatpacking warehouses and slaughterhouses.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah, look what they did to his teleprompter thing as well. I think that that didn't, that malfunctioned or didn't work. Maybe that was another kind of thing to try and trip him up during.

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[Stephen Edgington]

During his speech, I mean, the UN was set up really by the Americans after the Second World War to kind of dominate global politics. This was really an American enterprise, American liberal enterprise, I should say. This kind of the, the original neocons and the hawks of the, you know, in the 1950s, 1940s, this was FDR's dream. This was Truman's dream. This was like a Democrat dream to have a kind of united world. This was globalism. This was, you know, a global government under the auspices of American liberal democracy and American rule. And now with Trump in charge, obviously, he, he's kind of a complete contrast to the original aim of the un. He's a nationalist, he's not a globalist. So suddenly you've got an American president, the president of the most powerful country at the un, the most powerful country in the world, who goes against their globalist agenda, goes against their globalist values, is a nationalist, explicitly says, I'm going to put America first. And so they have to humiliate him. Maybe they even have to put him in danger, as we saw today. And I think for Trump and for America, you should be angry about this. This is like an institution that's really, as I said, set up by the American government. And they are insulting you. They're Insulting your country to your face?

[Tate Brown]

Well, yeah, it's just set up as an institution to allow like effectively the third world and these like, I mean, these really jokes of countries to like more like have this moral posturing against the United States. That's all it is. Like the Human Rights Council and it's like they're throwing like, yeah, like North Korea's on here and China and Iran, like, this is fantastic. And it's like the entire thing is just, it's just bureaucratic chest beating, doesn't get anything done. And then like you're saying, I mean, from the auspices, just like this globalist wet dream. And it's just like, enough. That's why seeing Trump there is so bizarre because it's just, this is opposites. This is America first versus, like third world led globalism. Even every. Nothing in the UN works. Even the peacekeepers is like 80%.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it's always the United States.

[Tim Pool]

The United States?

[Tate Brown]

No, no, the peacekeepers is like eight, like one of the most incompetent fighting forces on planet Earth. So it's like even like the one thing, the one mechanism that you would expect the UN to be able to do properly, they can't even do that. They're like having to drag kids out of like Indian villages to give them gigs. And the peacekeeping for like, it's a total joke.

[Stephen Edgington]

Just look at the contrast between what Trump's speech was and Macron's, because Macron was talking about France recognizing Palestine as a state. And Trump today said about the Europeans, I love Europe, I want you to do well, but mass migration and your energy policies are killing you. Trump was just in the UK last week and they had a quite good state visit between our Prime Minister, Keir Starmer and Trump, where they sort of were on quite good terms. But now Trump is going completely opposite. You know, now that he's in New York, he's saying Sadiq Khan is a crazy guy, Crazy mayor of London again, blasting Europe because of our failed mass migration policy. In particular, it is so refreshing to see an American president say, first of all that they love Europe and they love, you know, Britain. Trump is a huge Anglophile and he doesn't want to see us be destroyed by mass migration. Unlike Keir Starmer, I have to say, and a lot of the conservative leaders of Britain who've been flooding the country of millions of migrants over the last 10, 15, 20 years, your conservatives are.

[Phil Labonte]

One step away, one step to the right of leftists.

[Stephen Edgington]

It's incredible that the Conservative Party for 14 years in Britain opened the floodgates, despite promising to do the exact opposite to millions and millions of migrants from the Third World, from places like Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Ghana, you know, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh. We're talking about hundreds of thousands, if not millions from each of those countries coming in in a very, very short period. We talked about Boris Johnson earlier. There's a huge amount of discourse in Britain at the moment about the so called Boris wave of migrants. This is like the 4 million migrants who came in under Boris Johnson's premiership when he was Prime Minister, again, almost entirely from the third World. And Trump is clearly upset about this, as he should be. He's an Anglophile, he loves England, he loves Britain and he sees this country choosing a very, very dark path.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Stephen Edgington]

Nigel Farage actually came out the leader of the Reform Party, this is the kind of right wing populist party in Britain. He came out saying that he's not going to give the Boris waivers. These kind of migrants, what's called indefinite leave to remain, which means they will be able to remain in the country basically for the rest of their lives and, and be put on the path to citizenship and potentially have welfare and stuff like that. And this is going to save the country hundreds of billions of pounds. And it's quite interesting to see the radicalization, I think. I think Nigel Farage is looking at Trump and sort of taking lessons from his political rhetoric and what he's doing on the southern border, what he's doing with the massive deportations and adopting that language and those policies to the context of Britain. So what Trump says on the world stage, people, Americans have to remember this because maybe you're not thinking so much about Europe or other countries. What Trump says actually matters.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Stephen Edgington]

It has a huge impact on the political situation in places like Britain. And Trump basically is giving cover to nationalists in Britain and Europe to be able to pursue much, much harder policies than they would be able to pursue, let's say, if Biden was there or Obama and so on. He's really pushing the whole global Overton window to the right. It's very, very impressive. And his speech at the UN today, despite all of the problems with the teleprompter, despite the escalator thing, actually, it was very refreshing and quite, quite a novel experience to see a U.S. president talk for, I think, more than 50 minutes and saying these quite radical nationalist things at the un, the globalist institution.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, it's just like Trump is signaling to the right in Europe. United Kingdom is like, hey, we're taking the Boot off your neck, like, you can actually operate. And it's allowing, like, it's allowing everyone to actually bring these guys in and ask them questions about, like, mass makers. What was the benefit of that? I mean, like, we like our mutual friend of the show, Connor Tomlinson, like, he filmed an interview with Michael Gove where he just like, all you have to do is just bring these guys in front of a camera and just ask him some very basic questions on, like, the economics of mass migration. On, like, have you had any thoughts on what this could do to the national environment, the natural culture and these sorts of things? And they just crumble immediately. But it's because the United States, with this neocon, neoliberal establishment, just ran cover for them for all these years. And now that Trump's in, now that the boots off the neck, these guys actually have the answer for what they've done.

[Stephen Edgington]

It's incredible. You talk about Connor's interview with Gove. This has been a bit of a specialty of mine as interviewing conservative politicians from the right in Britain. This includes actually Nigel Farage, who I interviewed last year and asked him about master deportations. He was against that of illegal migrants. But this year he's completely flipped and has become far more radical in the issue supporting mass deportations. I also did an interview with former Prime Minister Liz Truss, again, a conservative prime minister who. Koller really loves her. You know, she's kind of got different views now, but when she was prime minister, she was in favor of Indian mass migration. She was in favor of a lot of these kind of woke policies. She called herself an LGBTQ plus ally. This is the leader of the Conservative Party. Americans might be fooled by that word. It's completely like false advertising, branding, you know. And I've done the same thing to other reformer Conservative Party politicians, including in London last week. I'm saying to them, you know, you let in all these migrants, now you're saying that you're going to reverse that or do the opposite. Why should we believe you? You were elected four times in the last 14 years on a manifesto that said you're going to cut immigration, and you did the exact opposite. And it's so impressive, again, as I said, to see a nationalist president saying these things to Europe saying, no, you need to stop this stuff. You're committing civilizational suicide. J.D. vance went to Munich and said the same thing last year or earlier this year. Sorry. And again, it had a huge impact on the discourses, on the elites in Europe. I think there's a real kind of Shift a vibe, shift against the mass migration. And Trump is also talking about energy. We have a vast in people don't know this in America. We have a vast amount of energy in the North Sea, North Sea oil that we're just not drilling because the government is, is refusing to let private companies drill the oil because of climate change. And we're hugely taxing it. And we have also a huge amount of fracking that we could do that we didn't do. Like it's crazy. The American economy actually grew far, far quicker than the whole European economy in the last 20 years. If you look at the differences in GDP and the main reason for that is because of your energy policies. You did frack to an extent. And that led an energy independence. Trump, when he was obviously president in the first term led to America being energy independent. And this, these kind of pro growth policies are such a unique thing to America. Europe is committing suicide and Trump has pointed out.

[Tim Pool]

We got one more story we have to get and this one's massive. The best for last from the House Judiciary Committee. Google admits censorship under Biden and promises to end bans of YouTube accounts of thousands of Americans censored for political speech. Google has admitted the following. The Biden admin pressured Google to censor Americans and remove content that did not violate their policies. The Biden admin censorship pressure was unacceptable and wrong. Public debate should never come at the expense of relying authorities. The company will never use third party fact checkers. Europe censorship laws target American companies and threaten American speech including the removal of lawful content. Following this, I have reached out to our contacts at Google and I have requested that they reinstate the Tim cast IRL episode with Joe Rogan and Alex Jones. The most viewed episode we had for for a long period. I don't know if it's the most at this point. I think Darren Beatty might be the most viewed episode we've ever had at this point. So it's true. It was related to something having to do with Trump and they took this show down three years after it aired during the Biden presidency for fake reasons. I am actually now considering whether there that we have legal standing to pursue against Google or YouTube because I want to see the communications they have with the Biden administration pertaining to that episode. It makes no sense that three years after the episode aired YouTube reached out to me and said they were deleting it for medical misinformation. Now y' all have seen this show and those that have know that we are very particular about the rules. We've taken episodes down so we never, never violate any of their rules. So they had no reason to bring the episode down, but they did. And I talked to them on the phone and said, why after three years, and they gave me no legitimate reason. They said, there'll be no adverse actions taken against your channel, but the video, the show is gone. I want to know if the Biden administration told them to take it down. I'm willing to bet they did. Because what we're learning from the House is that the Biden administration sent in. Sent emails to YouTube, sent messages saying this content must be removed, even though it didn't violate their policies. And I think this episode, with millions of views, falls into that category.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, it's good that they're admitting it. It's good that the. Yeah, I mean, it's something that conservatives have known for ages and ages, and it's something that the left has denied, you know, conservatives to say, well, you know, look, we're being censored, etc. Etc. And the left would be like, no, you're not. They actually just did bad things, and, you know, it's a private company, etc. Etc. So the fact that the, the, that Google's admitting that this was, you know, the Biden administration making the request, saying, look, you need to censor these people. That's a good thing. In addition to that, the left has been apoplectic about effing Jimmy Kimmel, who is, you know, they never watched his show because you could tell by the ratings, but they were. They thought it was such a terrible thing because it's possible that the FCC actually got involved. They are not saying one word about the Biden administration actually telling Google, hey, you should ban these people. They don't care about free speech at all. They only care about exerting power. So ignore all of their crying and complaining. It is the days of, of the right. Defending the rights of those that are going to deny the right of their rights are over. We will defend the rights of people that will defend our rights. But, like, this is a closed system, and people that will not defend the right of free speech do not deserve to have their rights protected or. Or defended, period.

[Stephen Edgington]

YouTube's policies are incredibly vague as well, and it's really difficult to understand where you're actually violating the policy or not. They talk about sort of these vague, subjective terms about misinformation or disinformation and so on. And this kind of policy has a very chilling effect on free speech. It's not just the Actual act of censoring people. It's the self censorship that this causes across loads and loads of content creators who are terrified to go there, you know, news companies or individual journalists not talking about specific issues because they're worried about demonetization. Maybe YouTube is giving them a huge amount of income. They've got to be really careful.

[Phil Labonte]

And then the amount of newspeak that, that people engage in, you know, self delete or whatever types of phrases that people use because they're afraid of saying the wrong word or the wrong phrase and getting demonetized or getting, getting booted like that is, it is insane.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well, and also the collaboration, like, I don't know, I don't think anyone's surprised, obviously, because like the Twitter files blew this wide open like a few years back where they were like, oh yeah, the DNC would just call in a favor. It's like, hey, can you moderate that? Can you take that person offline? Can we moderate this sort of content? So it's like, we've known this for a while and this is why you have to really tip the hat to Elon Musk, man. I know he's been under a lot of flack recently, and rightfully so in some degree, but like, without Elon Musk taking over Twitter, we would probably still be in the ghetto. Honestly, that's, that's the only way to look at it.

[Stephen Edgington]

Because Trump would have lost.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, Trump would have been in serious trouble. So it's like Elon Musk taking over Twitter completely, completely, in many ways restored that culture, culture of free speech and sort of updated the culture of free speech to the new new media.

[Stephen Edgington]

There's so many things we wouldn't know as well if Elon hadn't have bought Twitter. Because Twitter was so censorious when it was under the kind of left wing ownership. And there's so many news stories or just ordinary things that you might see around the world that we see on Twitter. We scroll by and we take for granted that we're looking at this stuff. You know, whether it's videos of the lefties celebrating Kirk's death or whether it's a video of, you know, a migrant boat coming into, into the UK or whatever it is. And you're like, this is free speech in action. And we're actually. The global discourse has been massively influenced by Elon paying a huge amount of money. Probably like completely overpriced, but actually it was worth it, you know, $40 billion or whatever. Just kind of save free speech. In a way. And, and having one platform that's able to do that, I think has forced the other platforms, maybe even YouTube as well, to be a bit more open and a bit more free speech because, you know, they were kind of competing with each other.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think Elon bought X at a loss and I don't think he did it for free speech. I think he did it because he wanted a data set to train an AI, which is now worth a substantial amount of money. Yeah, I think, I think the free speech angle was. I think Elon certainly agrees and cares about all these issues, but I think he was obviously saying the Twitter firehose is the. Is the one of the best data training models for AI. I disagree. It is. Well, no, it is one of the best, but it's got its problems.

[Stephen Edgington]

Because I was going to ask earlier you were looking on Chat GBT about the left wing political violence.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they just read it.

[Stephen Edgington]

I wonder what Grok would have said like that. Maybe that was. There would have been a difference. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Let's find out.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah, that could be a chat gbt.

[Tate Brown]

You're literally just arguing with a Redditor. Worst experience ever. It's like they should be paying me for this.

[Tim Pool]

If you ask, you're arguing with a.

[Phil Labonte]

Redditor with zero convictions. As soon as you push back, you've.

[Tim Pool]

Asked Chat GPT how many transgender mass murderers there have been or murderers in general. It. It says none. I asked Grok and it immediately. I hate, I hate all. I. I hate it all. You know why? They don't actually answer their questions. Let's try this. Okay, Grok, you effing moron. When I ask how many and then you go on some long autistic tirade, how does that answer my question which sought a number?

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I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

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[Tim Pool]

That's what I hate about all of these AIs. It's such slow, like, what time is it? And it just, let's just be like the Roman calendar was founded. I'm like, oh, what? Yeah, Lord.

[Tate Brown]

It's like when you, like, are looking for like a rest.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, and now it's, I'm sorry, Now it's saying, which response would you prefer? I don't know. Just answer the stupid question.

[Tate Brown]

They're giving you homework.

[Tim Pool]

I know. Yeah.

[Stephen Edgington]

The other thing with Elon's Twitter is it is now full of Indians and sort of slop accounts. Yeah. You know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Stephen Edgington]

And that does suck. Like for all the free speech stuff Twitter is, you know, because he monetized it. There's loads of people, you know, all around the world, they go five. So it did answer the question.

[Tim Pool]

It did. And it still gave me a long winded tirade. Fair enough. You want a number? There isn't one. Official stats don't track gender identity for homicide offenders, so centralized count exist, but based on documented cases from news Architects, court records. Oh, my God. But just give me a number, dude. And it does say five, but you have to read all of this to get to it.

[Stephen Edgington]

It's better than zero, I guess.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, dude. Twitter now, it's like you scroll, you get a video of, like, a guy getting run over by a train. And then the next tweet is like, the worst take you've ever seen from, like, an Indian guy. And then the third one is like a puppy video text. It's like, what is going on? And then a tweet from, like, a senator. It's like, what?

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it's like the answer. The answer is 30. I insulted it. I said, I asked how many? The proper response is number. And it said, point taken. It's around 20 or 30.

[Tate Brown]

Interesting.

[Stephen Edgington]

Took a while. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Why was that so hard?

[Tate Brown]

You've got to, like, interrogate AI to get information.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. There are people who constantly make prompts to deal with this. And it's really funny that literally everybody who uses these knows it's a problem. And there was a. There was a viral post on Reddit of a prompt you can inject that would stop it from being this, like, I don't. I mean this with all due respect, but autist, you know?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

It's like Tylenol user. Maybe it's more friendly.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Tylenol user. Son of a Tylenol user. When you ask a normal human a question like, Phil, how many guns do you own?

[Phil Labonte]

None of your business. Fed.

[Tim Pool]

How many cars do you own?

[Phil Labonte]

2.

[Tim Pool]

So it's like, it's real simple. Right. When you ask that a chatgpt, it'll be like, cars are interesting vehicles many people actually own in the United States.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

I'm not asking you ask it. Like, did you have breakfast this morning? Well, breakfast actually dates way back to the Middle Ages.

[Tim Pool]

Did you know that? We didn't eat bacon for breakfast. Breakfast. Until Bernays.

[Stephen Edgington]

Have you seen these news stories also about these young guys or young people who are using the AI as a kind of friend? Like, they're kind of chatting with the other.

[Tim Pool]

Dating them.

[Stephen Edgington]

Oh, yeah. Or like, dating them. Or like, maybe there's some. I think there was a tragic story. Someone committed suicide. It's like writing with. To the AI.

[Tim Pool]

Daenerys Targaryen. Yeah, he was. He was hanging out with Daenerys and he was like, how can I be with you? And it's like, you have to. It's like, do it now. And he's like, okay. And then he killed himself.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And it's really funny. When you ask Chachi PT about, like, chat GPT, I swear, literally does behave like. And again, I'm not saying. I'm not trying to deride autistic people, but it does. It, like, starts going. It starts, like, panic, like, no, no, no, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. And you're like, well, hold on there a minute.

[Stephen Edgington]

If you read it is autistic, basically, it's true.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. If you ask ChatGPT about someone like James O', Keefe, it will smugly just insult him the whole way and accuse him of things there's no evidence he's ever done. And then if you ask it about what it's done, it gets super defensive and angry with you also just make.

[Stephen Edgington]

Stuff up, like, yeah, all the time. It's totally unreliable.

[Tim Pool]

Well, my favorite thing actually is I think they just got rid of this. But there's a big. For a while. If you ask it to show a seahorse emoji, it would go into a total schizoid freakout.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I'm not kidding. It would be like, here's the emoji. And then it would show you a horse and a wave and go, wait, that's wrong. Here's this. And a lobster. Wait, no, that's not right either. Then it would show you a snail and be like, hold on, something's wrong. Then it goes. The Sea wars emoji was added to Unicode in June of 2014. At this time, the code is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's the code for it now. Let me try to reproduce it failed. And it just goes on and on, having this, like, schizoid paranoid delusion. But, you know, I think. I think it proves that we're in a simulation, because what they say online is that the seahorse emoji is a Mandela effect. Never existed. People just think it did. But then why does the AI also think it did and actually have a time and date and desperately try to create it, but it can't? And now today, after I talked about on the show, it doesn't do it anymore. Now it says there is no seahorse emoji. You're mistaken. I'm kidding, by the way. But it actually does happen. We do have to go to your chats and rants. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, we're gonna have that uncensored portion of the [e-mail] Timcast IRL. You don't want to miss it. It's not so family friendly, but it's always fun and funny and we got more to talk about. But for now, make sure you join our discord [e-mail] so you can call in and we're gonna read what you have to say. St. Miles says it's time to shut down the U. N and move the U. N out of the U. S. Where should I put it? Saint Kitts and Nevis, actually, to be.

[Phil Labonte]

Honest with you, who gives an F where it goes? Just get it out of New York.

[Tate Brown]

We should put in Afghanistan.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Tate Brown]

A lot of real estate available, right.

[Tim Pool]

Outside, of course, those other countries to defend it. Yeah, there you go.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

D Rock says the left uses scam caller tactics to filter out critical thinkers. Scam callers make their stories deliberately implausible to weed out skeptics, knowing whoever still engages is easier to manipulate. Correct. I always find it funny when people would get those Nigerian prince emails and they would be like, it's so stupid. The grammar is all bad. Like, they think I'm gonna fall for this. No, they're getting rid of people like you because they want only the stupidest people to send them money. And they're not going to waste time on someone who'd figure it out.

[Stephen Edgington]

You know, it's interesting also talking about the scam callers and the U.N. did you guys see this thing where the FBI found this huge horde of SIM cards?

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yes.

[Stephen Edgington]

It's like a government operation of some foreign hostile government and they found cocaine there and all sorts of other things where they're trying to kind of disrupt the communications in New York and spy on American politicians and stuff around the UN we don't know which one it is. I wonder which one of mine on the call.

[Tim Pool]

One of my favorite stories is when I went to was like a Google World event in New York and it was a bunch of like high profile people got invited to this like Google thing. And it was like a convention, but it was like invite only. And Richard Angle of NBC, like their foreign correspondent. I, I don't mean to drag your brother because this was 10 years ago. It was 13 years ago. But he, we were talking about cyber security and he said he went to Syria using his with and brought his personal phone. And I was like, hold on, stop, stop. He was. You, you brought your personal cell phone with you to Syria? And he was like, yeah, Why? I was like, okay, well, Assad got. Assad has literally everything you've ever done, every website you've ever been to, every contact in your Phone every message you ever sent, just go and assume that's the case. He's like, really? And I was like, how do you not have security people at NBC? This is crazy. Like, there are such easy ways to siphon the information off of your phone. You'd bring it into a war zone where they're literally waiting for you. That's nuts.

[Stephen Edgington]

Did you see the picture of Trump? He had like two iPhones on air Force One, I think. And people were, like, looking at the screen saver things, the images, and there was like big pictures of Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

That's. That's legitimately. That's smart, though.

[Tate Brown]

This is awesome because he's just like, yeah, self glaze. You got to sometimes.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, we got a good one. Mitho says, tim, have you heard about 4chan's Operation Clog the Clog the Toilet? Following the H1B visa announcement, they shorted the ticket price from India to the US and doubled the fare. I did see that what they've done is they're all going on various websites and trying to book flights from India to the United States and any airport, and then holding them, which creates like a 15 minute hold on the seat. And then it also manipulates the adjustable market of the ticket sales. The higher the demand for the tickets, the more the price goes up. And so the idea is people in India who may want to try and get to the United states before that $100,000 fee kick gets kicked in. They won't be able to because the flights are all congested, which is. I don't know if that's illegal. That's illegal, like, because you're. You're screwing over the airline.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they're the real losers. Scrolling the Reddit during the H1B subreddit during the meltdown was, like, glorious because it was just people, like, just melting down. Like, oh, no, I cannot get back to.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, Profit K. Profit makes a good point. He says there is no far left. The far right is openly and overtly condemned by the right. The left does not have a faction that is openly and overtly condemned. They may pretend they don't exist, but that's it. That's. That's correct.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Yeah. That's why they, like, people speak about fascism and it's like, obviously it's this, you know, horrid thing, but communism never gets the same vitriolic reaction from people. People just kind of casually thought, people like, you can identify as a communist and not get, like, beat up, you.

[Tim Pool]

Know, M. Daniel says, we're in the delivery room Welcoming our sixth child to the world.

[Phil Labonte]

There we go.

[Tim Pool]

She will be here very soon, and she's already got her pink beanie ready to go. Welcome, baby Catherine. Sh.

[Tate Brown]

Let's go.

[Phil Labonte]

Great to hear.

[Tim Pool]

And I, you know, I don't know. A lot of people who don't have kids know. They don't know this, but they give all babies beanies. Oh, they do. Little beanies.

[Phil Labonte]

Can't wait.

[Tim Pool]

In fact, they gave our baby multiple because they grow so quickly that you have to like, a week later, it's a different beanie. Yeah. It's crazy. Babies grow quick at first.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Actually, I think the growth rate is probably largely the same, but the amount of mass you have to grow to appear, to grow when you're larger. You know what I mean?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Is a lot more than when you're tiny.

[Tate Brown]

Well, they did say the growth rate from zero to six months, if it was consistent throughout your life, you'd be like £12 trillion by, like 20.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay, well, then there you go. 12 trillion or something.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Absurd.

[Tim Pool]

Like a small black hole, maybe. All right. What did it say? Do Wind Day says, where was this Tate Energy while Tim was afk?

[Tate Brown]

Dude, I. I got. I got into the. I got into the Casper Stash and I've just been downing that stuff.

[Tim Pool]

And. Yeah, I came in today and his face was just covered in brown. He was snorting it. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

I was like, it's like I'm wiretapping the U. N. You know, you do.

[Phil Labonte]

A few lines of Casper ripping lines of coffee.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Just straight to the lines. Graphene dream.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Floating.

[Tate Brown]

It's true.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Took me to a very.

[Phil Labonte]

Next. Next. You should try some of the Alex Stein double Cat.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that's gone.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, it's all gone.

[Tim Pool]

We have one ornamental bag, I think, behind me. Is there one over there? Nope.

[Phil Labonte]

No, don't see it.

[Tim Pool]

We have one ornamental bag left. But Alex Stein's primetime grime is so grind. Grime is sold out. And we actually. We need to get them out here so we can actually go over what the next Alex Stein blend is going to be. It's true. Because the thing is, just in all honesty, I don't think people really want to double the caffeine. And so the people who got it really liked it, but they're like, it's expensive to do an order of products like this because there's minimums, and the minimums cost, like, I don't know, like 20 grand or something. So you have to be able to make sure you can Move these without them going bad. Fortunately, Alex's all did move. We sold them all out. But we think we can do a better blend that will sell. All the other stuff that we [e-mail] sells out super quick, and it sells at a rate where we. The only time we've ever actually had an expiration was for decaf. And. And that's kind of crazy because we don't actually. The way it works with. With roasting the beans is we don't roast that much. It's. So it's basically like small batches, and then they get sold out, and they're only good for a short amount of time. And so, you know, that's how it goes. All right, let's go. Andre says Canada is about to murder 400 healthy ostriches in British Columbia because of 1 false positive PCR test back in February. Ameribros, we need your help. Our government won't listen to us, but maybe they will if Trump says something. Guys, don't you understand? You are chickens in a chicken coop. Do you think if the chickens started balking at me about, you know, not changing something, I'd listen? Come on.

[Phil Labonte]

And also, it's worth remembering when Donald Trump started talking about your election, the guy that Donald Trump favored started going down in the polls, and then the communists started going up in the polls, and the communists actually won. So maybe you don't want Donald Trump chiming in on things about your. About, you know, about your ostriches.

[Tim Pool]

Millennial mama says Christianity is the only religion the occult is afraid of. There's a reason why P S. Check out Nefarious if you haven't. Very intense movie.

[Tate Brown]

It's real.

[Tim Pool]

Is it the vampire one? Nefarious?

[Tate Brown]

I don't know. That is.

[Tim Pool]

That is an interesting point.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because far lefties love Islam.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. It's because Christianity is real and true. And it is also like. Like the. Like the paternal figure for a lot of these people. So it's like really something they can just take their anger out on. But I think primarily it's just because it's objectively true. And that causes a lot that disturbs.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that. I think that it's the context that we're in because there were. There was a guy that in Lebanon that got his head cut off for sorcery because he did magic tricks. So if. If you had these people, if these people were subject to Islam, they probably wouldn't be as vocal about it.

[Tim Pool]

Did he do the thing where I went like this?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it was one of those kind of things, but literally there was a guy that, I forget what the guy's name, but there was, there was a dude that had, you know, he was, it wasn't. This is in the past 10 years or so. They chopped his head off because he was a, he was practicing sorcery. So I think that. What was it?

[Stephen Edgington]

That's crazy. Well, that actually in Britain there's this a huge rise of paganism and kind of witch doctor beliefs because of the people who've been coming into the country, these immigrants from Africa. There's this really funny guy on Tick Tock who goes around.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Kristina Williams]

Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[Tim Pool]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[Kristina Williams]

I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast in case you missed it with Kristina Williams. The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

[Tim Pool]

It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge.

[Kristina Williams]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball. Plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[Tim Pool]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and.

[Kristina Williams]

We'Re hoping to, you know, make it run. So listen to In Case youe Missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Stephen Edgington]

Goes up to these African people in London and he starts like shouting like voodoo chants of them being like, I'm gonna like curse you or something. And they're like running away. They're going like counter curses. Like they're screaming at him. They're like, no, go to jail. No, no, he's just having fun, I think, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but I mean, come on, he possibly could.

[Stephen Edgington]

I don't know. But he's, he's super viral, so. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So wait a minute. So is that how you deal with the, the grooming gangs and all that stuff?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, no, it's not. If you, if you do that stuff with, to the grooming gangs, they'll just chop your head off. I mean, they are Muslims. That, that's what the kind of their thing, you know.

[Tim Pool]

But so there, there, there are some, some groups that. Oh, so like in. Do you think, like if you're in Springfield, Ohio, where like that the Haitians all were like, they'd be scared if.

[Phil Labonte]

You like voodoo down there.

[Stephen Edgington]

There's a lot of, you know, a lot of people who come from Africa, they don't just suddenly disappear their beliefs and turn into Western people. You know, they believe in magic, they believe indigenous. They believe in these like demons and they believe in which country this is like African demons.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, we say gin.

[Stephen Edgington]

Oh, gin.

[Phil Labonte]

Same thing. And that's in the Middle east too.

[Tate Brown]

Islamic.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. Satan is a jinn. Is he Devil. They have a different way to describe the devil. Yeah, yeah. And ghouls. I didn't know this. The word ghoul is, is, is apparently Arabic. I was, I was reading about it when we were doing the exorcism thing. A ghoul type of gin. It is a cemetery dwelling, flesh eating monster. And I'm like, I know what a ghoul is. I've watched Scooby Doo.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, that's where I get all of my occult knowledge from.

[Tate Brown]

Watch C Span.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, do you guys ever see that weird Large Hadron Collider occult ceremony they did? And everyone was like, what's going on? What?

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, look it up, look it up. Let's talk, let's talk about the uncensored portion of the show. Okay. They're like wearing Dark robes and, like. I don't know, man.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, Wednesday for them.

[Tim Pool]

And they're like, it was just a joke. And I'm like, I don't know, man. I think they're trying to open a portal or something.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Sounds like something they do.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, there's video of it. Like somebody filmed it.

[Phil Labonte]

That's crazy. Look.

[Tate Brown]

On their Snapchat story, Gadget Ratchet says.

[Tim Pool]

The seahorse emoji, and it's the pregnant man. Wait, I thought they got rid of the pregnant man. They didn't.

[Stephen Edgington]

That's because seahorses can change gender. Right?

[Tate Brown]

That's.

[Tim Pool]

No, it's because the male holds the babies.

[Tate Brown]

That's the emoji for when you've eaten a lot. That's typically how I deploy it. Trying to reclaim.

[Tim Pool]

It's the. It's not the pregnant. It's a Bill Gates. He's just. He's out of shape. He's got the big belly. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

So, yeah, I was eating good emoji. That's what. That's what it's for.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Beautiful garment. Says Putin sent troops into Kiev heavy. They sent in Spetsnaz. Spesnaz. On an invasion. Yeah, that's what I thought. An invasion plane to secure Kiev airport blown up. Ru set up a massive fuel line to keep vehicles fueled, failed, and they fled, leaving vehicles. Tim, you are wrong. You are once again misunderstanding my point. The argument that. Okay, surface level. Whoa. Putin sent troops towards Kiev and then fled. That proves it. Or Putin dispatched a distraction pincer strike to pull Kiev forces towards the north. So when he invades to the south, he will face little opposition. Like, my point is only. We have only speculation about what he was trying to do, except for what he has done. He has secured the Donbass land bridge into Crimea. Crimea was the first target. The Donbass was the second. He then allocated his entire military in that region. I don't understand why we'd assume he wanted anything else. Certainly. I mean, maybe he's thinking, like, hey, you know, like, if we get Kiev, we shut it down overnight, but this will distract, and then we can move into the South. Interestingly, y' all should read about all the various battles of the Civil War. The reason why the south entered Pennsylvania and attacked at Gettysburg, which was a mistake on the part of the Confederates. The reason why they did not go into Washington. After the first Battle of Bull Run, the South actually invaded the north for the first time. I believe. I believe Gettysburg was the first time because they felt that they needed to strike fear into the hearts of the Northerners. So they would call for a withdrawal of Union troops in the south, and also they could disrupt supply lines and feed their troops. Those are some of the reasons. So some might say on the surface it's because the south was trying to conquer the North. It's like, not. No, actually, they did not have that intention. They were hoping that it would scare Northerners and then the word would spread that they could die from this war and they'd back off. Among other things. Let's see, we have here. Omg, Puppy says the Brits have had Russia derangement syndrome since 1840s. MI6 played a part. The 2014 color revolution, maybe even the My Dan sniper massacre. I won't be surprised.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't even know what the My Dan sniper at massacre.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, bro. Hey. It's crazy. I'm glad I got out when I did. There they were shooting people. Well, look it up. It's crazy. When I was there, the worst thing that happened was they were molotoving people. And the worst that happened to us was with the barricade set up. They surrounded me screaming in Ukrainian, and I was like, I don't know what you're saying. And then one guy was like, they're Americans. They're Americans. And the guys that were me were actually British. And then they were me, like, okay, you're good, you're good, you're good. And listen. Yeah, they were like. I don't know if they were screaming at us because they knew that we weren't Ukrainian. And they're like, no, we like Americans. Americans are all right.

[Stephen Edgington]

Boris Johnson was very, very, very pro Ukraine and was kind of fueling the war in a big way and funding the war and spending billions of pounds of British taxpayer money. And this just completely goes unchallenged in Britain. There's just a complete consensus on this. No one wants to. To, you know, stop funding or spending all this money or getting involved in the war. They see it as, like, a moral issue. And even on the right, like, all the conservatives. Well, it's Boris Johnson who did. Did all this stuff. It's a complete unification. Farage has been, like, slightly skeptical on it, but he can't go too far because the consensus is so huge.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no, I think the. The actual reality is the UK Is conquered. You are. You are a conquered people.

[Stephen Edgington]

I don't think we're conquered yet. That's my view. I think, you know, the white British population, I think, is 71%. It's going down every 10 years, you know, it's declining.

[Tim Pool]

But I'm not saying the white British. I'm saying your nation itself is a conquered nation.

[Stephen Edgington]

Conquered by whom?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'll put it like this. Your king has aligned himself with forces that are disloyal to your own country. And so the people of the UK are subjected to an anti British and intolerant worldview that its own government imposes on them. It's not that. I'm sure there are a lot of people are gonna be like, oh, the, you know, the Pakistani people who come here or whatever. No, no, no, no. That is your king doing it. You have an oppressive autocratic monarch who hates you and is destroying the fabric of what it means to be British.

[Stephen Edgington]

I don't think the King has that much influence, really. I mean, it's Starmer that's instigating all this stuff. And the Conservatives when they're in power. I mean, the King is a ceremonial figure really. He's doing controversial things on Islam. I agree with you.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not saying that I gave Canada back. He did.

[Phil Labonte]

Ian would, Ian would take issue with that statement.

[Tim Pool]

I actually, I agree largely with Ian and I know that my opinion, I've kind of changed on this. I actually think while it is true it's largely a ceremonial role, I think it's not a ceremonial as you guys think. And it's that it's, it's, you know, I don't know, I don't know a lot about the structure of, you know, the House of Commons and, and, and how the King basically gave more authority to the Parliament, all this stuff. But it certainly sounds to me, based on the conversations I've had, and I could, I'm probably wrong that, you know, back in was like the 1800s or whatever, the King's all like, hey, you know, they might kill us. Let's just pretend like we're giving up power and then they'll believe it.

[Stephen Edgington]

I'm a lover of history. I've read so much about Britain's constitution and the monarchy and so on. I think it was a gradual decline of Britain's, of the monarchy's power over centuries and centuries, beginning with the kind of the Magna Carta. And, you know, Queen Victoria, she had some influence over choosing the Prime Minister, but she was really the last monarch who had a, who had a significant role to play in British politics. And after that, the, the monarchy is basically a, a completely ceremonial position, in my opinion.

[Tim Pool]

I think I, I, I just disagree.

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah, the.

[Tim Pool]

Can the king remove Parliament and the Prime Minister? I'm not asking you would he. I'm saying according to the laws of the Crown. Can he do it? I think of your government.

[Stephen Edgington]

He technically can dissolve Parliament. Yes. And it is. It's like he puts a signature on these things and that's it, really, you know, but he's never going to do it. And the Queen. Yeah, yeah. I think technically, yes, he can. I. I'm not too sure, but I.

[Tim Pool]

Think, yes, literally, yes, he can. But the argument is always, oh, but he would never. Because it's not.

[Stephen Edgington]

If he did, it would just be a constitutional crisis and frankly, the monarchy would be removed. I mean, that it. It would not happen.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I don't imagine that for a second. Come on. They would remove the monarchy. Parliament changes all the time. I think that maybe, maybe with King Charles, right?

[Stephen Edgington]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe this guy, because he's a crackpot, nobody. But with Elizabeth, I bet if she did it, people would be like, okay. And it would be a constitutional crisis for sure. But there would be respect for the Queen. I think now that it's. I think, yeah, you guys are on the verge of losing the monarchy for sure. We're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show and watch these demonic Large Hadron Collider rituals, which will be fun. So smash the like button. Share the show. Thanks for watching and make sure you go to rumble.com timcast irl for the uncensored portion. Again, we're going to watch these demonic rituals. I'm not joking. They say it was a gag, but we'll play the video. You can follow me on XN Instagram @tim Guest. Steven, do you want to shout anything out?

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Yeah. My X account Steve at Stephen Edgington and go and follow us GB News on YouTube as well. We do a lot of great content there. Interviews and documentaries and so on.

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