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Despite assurances from President Donald Trump that this war is almost completely over, polling is not very good showing that most people in this country are not really happy about what's going on. And a video is going viral showing Lindsey Graham saying to the anti Semitics, I think it's what he said. We get what he's trying to say. And the isolationists, I don't stand with you, I stand with Israel all the way. And it's generated generating a lot of controversy because while one might understand saying you don't agree with anti Semites, but isolationists, that's just a polit that that's a foreign policy opinion to say that you would stand with a foreign country. It's generating a lot of controversy. And alongside this another video from the Joe Rogan podcast, which of course if Joe has an opinion on something, they use it as the the litmus test of moderates. He says that people feel betrayed by this war with Iran because we did not vote for this. And indeed polling shows many people are deeply concerned about what this will mean. I don't want to say it's all bad. I mean obviously we didn't vote for this war. Most people didn't. But we will see how this stuff plays out. We got a bunch of other stories, of course. CNN ran what may be one of the most insane tweets I've ever seen. Where in reference to Islamic terrors who threw a TATP explosive nail bomb at police and protesters, they said something like some teenagers from Pennsylvania took a train down for what could have been a beautiful day on a otherwise warm New York weekend. And then everyone started roasting them, saying several men took a a plane to Washington D.C. virginia and New York for what could have been a beautiful day. Yeah, we get the point. So they're getting absolutely roasted for that. We'll talk about that. But I will tell you, my friends, what's really grinding my gears today. They're running the story saying that Hegseth spent $22 million on steak and lobster. Without telling you why, they're trying to make it seem like he personally is buying himself million dollar lobster meals. Pete Hegseth is providing meals to the troops. Steak and lobster. Because it is typically what we do to boost morale. And you know what? You're not going to get me of all the things we complain could complain about with the budget saying that our men and women in uniform get to have a fine meal for once, you're not going to get me complain about it. And the fact that they would smear Hexess for doing this is absolutely disgusting. So we're talking about all that and much, much more before we do. We got a great sponsor for you my friends. It is true goldrepublic.com Tim Having sound money and financial independence is important. Obviously hard assets are extremely important. That's why you should check out True Gold Republic. If you take a look at the world right now, with active wars, NATO under pressure, the dollar is being weaponized. $36 trillion in debt. Yikes. We printed so much money since 2020. Your savings get worth the their. Their. The value declines year after year. And that is by design. Gold can't be printed. It can't be sanctioned. It can't be devalued by a press release. Central banks are buying it at record levels. The people who run the system are hoarding the one thing they cannot print and that tells you everything. Insert True Gold Republic. Real physical gold and silver. Not paper, not ETFs. Metal you can hold. Check out their independence bundle. A physical gold starter kit, A one on one on one with experts and bonus precious metals on top. You can get the guide you go to truegoldrepublic.com tim or call 1-800-628-GOLD now I'm not going to tell you what to do with your money, right, But I'm going to tell you this. I bought gold and silver and I've taken this stuff seriously for quite some time. And if you've been paying attention to the gold and silver prices, I think, you know, you see with, with how people are buying this stuff, someone knows something you don't is the only look at it. So contact the experts, see if they can help you out. Thanks for sponsoring the show and ladies and gentlemen, we're. We have the new and improved timcast.com and sign up to join our Discord community because many, many tremendous things are on their way. The coffee shop is set to open very, very soon. The members only events physical in person. It's going to be absolutely beautiful. And you get to join our Discord community where we got tens of thousands of people hanging out. They're, they're talking, they're asking questions. And as a member, you can call into the uncensored portion of the show Monday through Thursday to talk to, talk to us and our guests. It's going to please support our work over timcast.com and don't forget right now to smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, we got two great guests joining us tonight. Why don't we start with you, Leonardo?
John Rocker
Sure.
Leonardo Joanie
Hi. What's up?
Tim Pool
Who are you? What do you do?
Leonardo Joanie
I'm Leonardo, Joanie. I'm a comedian and, you know, controversial figure on the far right, I guess. I don't know where you're going to put me.
Tim Pool
Oh, if you said far left, I'd be more worried now. I know we're going to laugh. Well, okay, then we won't. All right. It's, it's fun to have you. We'll have a good time. John Rocker is here.
John Rocker
How you doing? Good to see you again, Tim.
Tim Pool
Lean up into that microphone, brother.
John Rocker
You know we don't have that.
Tim Pool
Do whatever you gotta do.
John Rocker
Yeah, I don't move around so good. Yeah, the, the, the stem cells. I got stem cells.
Tim Pool
Oh, did you really?
John Rocker
About a month ago. And yeah, like an injection is still. The inflammation's still there. The pain, the pain, the crankiness.
Tim Pool
There you go.
John Rocker
Is that for me just me being 51 aged old? I don't know. Or is it the stem cells or slowly eating my body from the inside? I don't really know. What I do know, I'm very Impressed is I actually got invited back somewhere twice.
Tim Pool
Yes. Right.
John Rocker
My third stint on the, on the, the Tim Pool show.
Tim Pool
We enjoy your presence.
John Rocker
Yeah, thank you. Yeah. At least every six months. You do every six months. It kind of wears off, like. Yeah, I'm glad he's gone and always
Tim Pool
had to miss you. You know, it's like when you break up with a girlfriend, you remember all the good times and then you start, why did we even ask him to leave?
John Rocker
So she walks back the door, you're
Phillip Filler
like, now remember, it was the smell.
Tim Pool
Indeed. Well, let's. Let's start with the news. Let's jump right into it. We've got this from the New York Times. Unlike past US Conflicts, Iran attack is opposed by most Americans. And you know what I love about this? I find it very, very hard to believe that people in this country just generally liked war. But that's what they're claiming. And they'll tell you that. I have to. I have to. I know they're saying Libya intervention was. Was largely unpopular, but I do kind of feel like they're just saying this because it's Trump and whatever he does is wrong. But we do have this clip from Joe Rogan that is making the rounds where, you know, I will. I will stress that it is funny that it only matters to people if Joe says it.
Leonardo Joanie
That approval rating of World War II at 97% that they showed you, that was after D Day. That was after Japan struck Pearl Harbor.
Tim Pool
Right.
Leonardo Joanie
Which they had advanced notice of. So that's totally disingenuous because before that it was so low, nobody wanted to go. America was anti interventionist.
Tim Pool
I mean, I look at all of them. People really supported the Iraq war at 76%. There were protests everywhere.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, well, that might have been after we had the incubator baby hoax.
Tim Pool
No, no, no. That was. The incubator baby thing was in the 90s, wasn't it?
Leonardo Joanie
Was that.
Tim Pool
Yeah, that's war.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Yeah, it was very popular in the beginning because we. I thought he had weapons of mass destruction. They told us he did, literally. So we were like, well, we have to wait.
Leonardo Joanie
Who told us they had weapons?
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I remember seeing in 2003 on the news, one guy.
Tim Pool
His name is the news.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, there was one. There was one guy who came in and did a nice little Congress meeting and told him we had weapons of mass destruction. I don't know. You guys might know him.
John Rocker
Turned out to be two donkeys and a box of sparklers.
Leonardo Joanie
No, it was Mr. Benji Netanyahu came down in Congress and Told him, yeah,
Tim Pool
I've never heard of this man. This.
Leonardo Joanie
There's very strange enigma.
Tim Pool
Enigma seems like just from his name, sounds like a good guy.
Leonardo Joanie
Sure.
Tim Pool
Benji, Let me play this clip of Rogan because, look, I understand a lot of people are like, we get it. It's the opinion of Joe Rogan. Well, this, this clip has been going around because Joe represents for most partisans, the middle ground. So liberals are taking this as if to say, like, aha, this proves it.
John Rocker
Which just seems so insane based on
Tim Pool
what he ran on.
John Rocker
I mean, this is why a lot of people feel betrayed, right? He ran on no more wars and these stupid senseless wars. And then we have one that we can't even really clearly define why we did it, which just seems so insane.
Tim Pool
And that's, and that's the gist of it's going around. Mehdi Hassan chimed in saying, and Rogan believed him and endorsed him. Indeed. And what I love about this Dave Smith is taking the opportunity to rag on Mehdi Hasan in a quite verbose way, pointing out that he himself is anti war. But when the anti war left returned on the issue of Gaza, he says, I never thought to start lecturing them about voting for Biden in order to pat myself on the back and foolishly pretend that this proves their idiocy or guilt or whatever. I was just happy that they were good on such an important issue. And I agree with Dave on this, what Mediasan has done. And I think it kind of proves the point. Do people really, are they really mad at Trump over this war? Are they really? Actually, I'll tell you this. Did people actually really ever support any of these other wars? Because I find that very hard to believe. And I think largely the criticism right now is that it's Trump doing it.
Phillip Filler
Yeah, I mean, look, it's, it's always Trump doing it that gets the criticism, right? Like people that, that don't like Trump. It doesn't matter what the policy is. It's just that they don't like Trump. And so they're just going to use whatever the policy at hand is as a way to, to criticize Trump now. I mean, there is legitimate criticism from the right, the people that said, you know, look, we don't want new wars, we don't want to be involved. Like, that's legitimate stuff. But people like Medi Hassan are totally disingenuous. It doesn't matter what, what Trump does. I mean, Trump could cure cancer and Medi would be like, well, you know, cancer is really not all that bad. He's he's just totally disingenuous and a
John Rocker
point you made, Tim. On behalf of Joe Rogan's comments, we haven't defined why we're there really. I think Trump has done a fairly good job of doing that. And furthermore, it's Iran. We know their place in the world for the last damn near five decades. Do we even really need to explain why we're there? It's kind of obvious. It knows on your face that's why we're there. Duh.
Tim Pool
I think the social media psyop campaigns, manipulation, constant foreign interference, all of this stuff genuinely has people fractured in the United States, not really understanding what Iran is, what they do internationally. TikTok being a great example. I certainly understand the criticism that people have over TikTok. The reason why it was banned in the first place and then purchased was because it was deliberately and by its own code anti Israel that many people would argue is like, okay, fine, what's the problem? Well, the problem is a Chinese owned company is intentionally interfering in American politics and social, you know, social media. Buying it for the purpose of being pro Israel, I, I would say is only slightly less bad. We don't want our social media to be tools of weaponized. We don't want to be, we don't want them to be weapons by the government to get us to support things that are bad that we don't want to support. At the same time, everything I think we're seeing with public perception on the Iran war, on the issue of Israel, is rooted in conflict between the United States and its and its adversaries. And Israel is a, is a principal military component for the United States. So you're going to have China, Russia, Iran or otherwise in that area.
John Rocker
Sure it is. But even Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Starting back in 1991, you knew this day with Iran was coming. Whether it's going to be today, tomorrow, or kick the can down the road for another 30 years, you knew it was coming. And this is going to be. I would so much define it as a war. It's not so much a war when one side's doing all the damage and the other side. Or, you know, would you call a bar fight a bar fight if one person just got the living excrement kicked out of him and the only shots the other guy took was a kick at your ankles while he's laying on the floor?
Tim Pool
No, no, that's not fair.
John Rocker
That's not really a fire.
Tim Pool
I would describe it as a bar fight where one guy punched another guy so he turned around and started punching a bunch of women. Like Iran's. Iran's targeting hotels and civilian targets. They did strike some bases.
John Rocker
Yeah. You know why they're doing it? They're trying rally. Rally their fellow Muslims in the area to lean on America. But this, this fight was coming at some point in time. And Would you rather have this fight with a. Iran's been getting, you know, the holy crap kicked out of him for the last better part of 18 months, whether it be Israel, whether it be us, you know, back in. Was it August? September. No. Yes. Midnight Hammer. Was that September? August.
Phillip Filler
It was last summer.
John Rocker
Doesn't matter.
Leonardo Joanie
Why? Why do we have beef with Iran?
Tim Pool
Oh, boy. We talked about it quite a bit.
Leonardo Joanie
No, this is a serious, dead serious question. Why do we have beef with Iran?
Tim Pool
No, simple version. Because, Ian, Theocracy isn't the answer.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
No, I was going to tell you why.
Tim Pool
So the answer is that 20% of the world's natural gas and oil flows to the Strait of Hormuz and Iran keeps threatening to bomb it. They also supply weapons to the Houthi rebels in Yemen to bomb cargo ships and trade going through the Red Sea into the Suez Canal. The US Deal with the world is you use US Dollars to buy oil. We police the seas. That's the overly simple reason. So when Iran tells the United States we are going to bomb, trade, oil or otherwise, unless you give us stuff, you get a Barack Obama. And what does he do? He says, we will give you whatever you want. Please just don't do this. And so he sends them the quote, unquote, pals full of cash.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
The British got in there, like.
Tim Pool
Then you get Donald Trump, who says, I'm not going to send you money anymore. Stop and don't threaten us or I'll kill you. And then they apparently, in the meeting, had a negotiation with Trump where they said, we have enough fissile material for 11 bombs. And that's where we're starting the negotiation. And Trump said, if you're not going to stop threatening the region, I will just blow you up. And that's what he did. I'm not saying you should support it. I'm saying those are the reasons.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
These are the modern. That's the modern era since, like, since the Shah, since the theocracy got into power. What, in the 20s, the British got in there and started siphoning their oil out of there. And then in the 50s, there's this guy, Mosaddegh, who the Iranians diplomatically, you know, democratically elected and Then the CIA essentially had him overthrown because he wanted to renationalize their oil supply for the Shah. Yeah. And then, so then they got him overthrown and they put a king in the Shah, the son of their old king. But they were, you know, supporting it like a proxy until 1979. Then there was a revolution on the street because he, he was basically corporatizing Iran and making like there used to be street vendors and it was very like. And then he made big shopping malls.
John Rocker
I didn't finish.
Tim Pool
I got. Okay, I understand. But this is not relevant to the modern context. Wonderfully, we could talk about the history of Persia and the empire and go back a thousand years. I get that. But that's not relevant to what's going on right now.
Leonardo Joanie
What you're saying, basically Iran, Iran's threatening to bomb the strait where the oil goes through. They've done it.
Tim Pool
Yes.
Leonardo Joanie
And what's their reason? Why do they say they're going to do that? What's, what's the thing that we're not doing that they want us to be doing?
Tim Pool
Well, so there's the petrodollar system, which is a component of what's called the liberal economic order. After World War II, the United States.
Leonardo Joanie
I know all about that.
Tim Pool
You know all about the Lebron?
Leonardo Joanie
Absolutely.
Tim Pool
That's the petrodollar system. Iran says, shove it up your ass. So we said, okay, how about no? And Obama's strategy was, fine, then here's what we'll do. We will give you money and we will support you. Just don't disrupt what we're doing in the Gulf and in the, in the Red Sea. And they said, okay. And in the meantime, they're developing, they're enriching uranium. Now, there's two, there's two legitimate views on this. I should say there's the overt, what the media will tell you, what Trump will tell you. And then there is the more you have to be in the politics. Really understand this. The issue with nuclear energy isn't about Iran getting a nuclear bomb for the most part. It's about them getting access to clean, efficient, high energy return on energy investment sources. If Iran is able to increase their energy output, they're going to expand their military capabilities, further threatening the region. They've been funding militia groups.
Leonardo Joanie
The region, who?
Tim Pool
The Middle East. So basically international oil production. Again, I'm not saying you should. You have to support this.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm saying, oh, no, that's fine.
Tim Pool
This is what they're doing.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm trying to get Clear. Because.
John Rocker
Get off the show, basically.
Tim Pool
Yeah. If you don't support Israel. So.
Leonardo Joanie
So I think, I don't think you would have called me if that was the deal because I think all my positions are pretty clear for who's had any.
Tim Pool
So Iran is supplying weapons and resources to groups that are militarized and they destabilize the region.
Leonardo Joanie
So Israel doesn't care about this at all is what you're saying. They're just here to help us because.
Tim Pool
What do you mean? Of course they care.
Phillip Filler
Israel's.
Tim Pool
Israel is very ideologically motivated against Iran. For, For. Because I'm trying to.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm trying to. I'm trying to get my brain around between what you're saying versus what we're getting from the media and what we're getting from Trump, which is telling us, hey, they're building their weeks away. When it's time to scale your business, it's time for Shopify. Get everything you need to grow the way you want, like all away. Stack more sales with the best converting checkout on the planet. Track your cha chings from every channel right in one spot and turn real time reporting into big time opportunities. Take your business to a whole new level. Switch to Shopify. Start your free trial today.
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Leonardo Joanie
For 39 years, they've been weeks away from getting the nuclear bomb and they're going to use it and they're going to use it against us.
Tim Pool
But that's not for.
Leonardo Joanie
For you. That's not for me.
Tim Pool
No. That message is for people who follow people like Candace Owens. Right.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't want to take shots at Candace.
Tim Pool
Oh, I will take shots at her all day. Right. Like the thing about mass audience is you need lowest common denominator content.
Leonardo Joanie
But. But Candace Owens isn't the one saying that.
Tim Pool
No, no. My point is not to shift away from talking about Candace for the reason why George W. Bush says they hate us for our freedoms. It's because he's sending out a message to maximize effectiveness. Which means when you look at the IQ bell curve, the top 20% is going to say, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And then you're going to get the Midwest who are going to say, well, if my boss tells me to say it, I'll just go along with it. And then you get the back end with the lower IQ people being like, wow, so Trump's going to come out and say if they build a nuclear bomb, they're going to bomb people. And that's somewhat true. But the real risk is if Iran is a nuclear bomb, they have leverage and the leverage they will use to extract more resources and continually be an affront to the liberal economic order on the petrodollar system. I don't believe Iran would actually nuke Israel or in the immediate anybody. But the liberal economic order system, the Trump military social complex don't want to negotiate with a nuclear power in the region. They want to negotiate with a regional power.
Leonardo Joanie
Right?
Tim Pool
And so when they go to them and they say we're going to enrich uranium, there's two key components. We are going to have clean, high density energy, which means our economy is going to expand rapidly outside of your sanctions, which means more people, more weapons, more bombs and more leverage. Additionally, if we get a nuke and we have enough materials for 11 of those, you are now negotiating with a nuclear power. Trump says, I'm not gonna do that, I'm gonna kill you.
John Rocker
That's a huge game changer. And you're right, the whole thing is about leverage. I do disagree with you on the. They wouldn't nuke anybody. They're sending missiles right now into hotels in Saudi Arabia. Children, civilians and.
Tim Pool
Let me clarify, let me clarify. I'm saying Iran's not going to wantonly just start launching bombs for no reason. They absolutely will use nuclear weapons. That's the point of not wanting to have to negotiate with a nuclear power like Iran. They're Islamic fundamentalists who quite literally have in their Hadith that the Jews must be killed. And so by all means, they're not the only dangerous ideology.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, we don't want to start going into what the far extremists of certain religions hold because we'd have a problem with Israel's far extremists of certain religions.
Tim Pool
Well, by all means, go ahead and criticize Israel all day. I don't care. But.
Leonardo Joanie
No, no, no.
Tim Pool
But Islam literally has in the Hadith that the end will not come until they kill all the Jews.
Leonardo Joanie
But we, but, but the extreme right on the Jews, right?
Tim Pool
This is not the extreme right of Islam. This is literal blanket.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay, but who's Benjamin Netanyahu's little clique that's actually running the Israeli government right now has in their extreme religious view along with our Pete Hezgath and their little evangelical.
Tim Pool
Got you. Whatever proves it I'm right. I'm kidding.
Leonardo Joanie
Have this extreme point of view that until the well for the, for the Jews, until Europe is destroyed, their moshiach won't come back and they can't build their temple and then get two 800 goy slaves each. They've got an extreme policy that's also motivating them.
Tim Pool
Indeed.
Leonardo Joanie
So I think we got a problem on both ends here.
Tim Pool
Well, I would disagree. I would argue that there are a lot of fundamental fundamentalist ideologies. My response to the the issue of Israel is we shouldn't be giving them any money. We shouldn't be involved in their. Their conflicts or whatever it may be the principal reason why.
Leonardo Joanie
When's that going to happen?
Tim Pool
Never. Because they're our military base at the Suez Canal. Just like we want control of Panama, we want control of Greenland, we need control near the Suez and we've got Egypt who gets billions of dollars in the US government for their military because they allow us to control the Suez and Israel is effectively our military base there.
Leonardo Joanie
So you're saying. So your position is that Israel is working for us in the Middle east.
Tim Pool
Israel is 100% working for us.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay, so how many of their representatives do we fund? How many of their representatives do we
Tim Pool
fund through probably a decent amount actually.
Leonardo Joanie
Do we have a, you know, equivalent of APAC in Israel?
Tim Pool
How much money does the U. S give to Israel every year? Military industrial complex and you don't. And you think that money is not used for propping up their.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, that money is used to return back and buy our countries.
Tim Pool
Absolutely. A component. See that the issue with the, the hyper focus on Israel is it ignores all of the other operations the US is doing as if Israel is dictating our policy on Greenland and like northern Canada.
Leonardo Joanie
How many of our congressmen are allowed are pro Israel? How many of our congressmen? All of them, pretty much minus six who don't get in.
Tim Pool
How many of them are pro Ukraine?
John Rocker
All of them.
Leonardo Joanie
Same problem.
Tim Pool
Didn't Netanyahu go like I want you to all, you know we're going to take over Ukraine.
Leonardo Joanie
Who's the president of Ukraine right now?
Tim Pool
The president.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, the guy. Who's the guy?
Tim Pool
Do you mean the prime minister?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't give A Voldemort. What's his name? What's his name?
John Rocker
Voldemort. Not a lot of people. Voldemort.
Tim Pool
Right, right, right, right. Yeah, indeed.
Leonardo Joanie
He's Ukrainian.
Tim Pool
Yes.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay, so you're not going to be honest then.
Tim Pool
What do you, what do we want. You.
Leonardo Joanie
Early life check on Zelensky. Do we want to do that?
Tim Pool
Is he not from Ukraine?
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, he's from Ukraine.
Tim Pool
Okay.
Leonardo Joanie
But does he identify as Ukrainian? Does. Does Benjamin Netanyahu identify as Polish where he's from? I don't know. No, he doesn't.
Tim Pool
So what?
Leonardo Joanie
No, he doesn't. There's a point. And you know what my point is?
Tim Pool
Your point is that Zelensky is Jewish.
Leonardo Joanie
That's correct.
Tim Pool
And.
Leonardo Joanie
And so. Oh, look at that. We're fighting two wars on behalf of this small, tiny group of people.
Phillip Filler
Well, I mean, not, not, not. Not to challenge you about. Not to challenge you about what's going
Leonardo Joanie
on with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
Tim Pool
Not. Not the challenge.
Phillip Filler
Hey. Challenge you about whether or not Zelinsky is Jewish. But, like, the US didn't initiate the, the war in Ukraine, like Russia invaded.
Leonardo Joanie
Hold on a second. They said, if you keep setting up your NATO bases at my border, we're going to go in, didn't we? And we were like. That's what you mean by putting it right here.
Phillip Filler
Listen, Putin was. Putin was after Ukraine forever. They look at Ukraine as part of Russia.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, because there's a huge part of people that overlap that are both Ukraine. They speak both Ukrainian, Russian, and there's a huge group of people that actually identify as. Right.
Tim Pool
So let me, let me ask you is. But I.
Leonardo Joanie
It's besides the point because I actually don't think we should be involved with either one of them.
Tim Pool
Indeed. And so the issue I bring up when you mentioned that you, you like
John Rocker
Texas and Mexico, here's overlap. Russian Ukraine.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, yeah, yeah.
John Rocker
Like Texas and Mexico.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, now we have Texas.
John Rocker
So. Yeah. Watch your ass.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
You know, when they.
Tim Pool
Real quick, I want to answer the point you made about when I'm talking about Islam and literally in the Hadith saying, the end will not come until the Jews. Until the tree and the rock say, there's a Jew hiding behind me, come kill them. Is there's what, 1.8 billion Muslims?
Leonardo Joanie
First of all, first of all, if you want me to defend Islam, you pick the wrong girl. So because 100%, I'm not asking to
Tim Pool
defend Islam, I'm making the point. Position in the West, You're. You're comparing a nation of what, How Many people are In Israel, like 14 million. 14. No, it's not that much.
Phillip Filler
No, I'm talking about Jews in the
Tim Pool
Diaspora itself is 14 million, but Israel's have a substantially small.
Leonardo Joanie
Wow, wow, wow. Well, hold on a second. Because it's forbidden to take an actual census in Judaism. It's forbidden to take that.
John Rocker
They.
Leonardo Joanie
And they only they base their population based on active synagogue participation, actually. So the. No.
Phillip Filler
So Mary Joseph,
Leonardo Joanie
13 to 15 million is based off of active synagogue participation.
Phillip Filler
20. In 2026, the population of Israel was between 9,500,000 and 9,650,000.
Tim Pool
You think Zelensky was, was put in there by. By Jews?
Leonardo Joanie
Absolutely.
Tim Pool
100.
Leonardo Joanie
Because I have a gut.
Tim Pool
No, no, I'm saying like, why did they put him in there?
Leonardo Joanie
Well, I think they want to build a little pathway between Israel and Ukraine and have that control. And also.
Tim Pool
What Control of what?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know. I just.
Tim Pool
See this, is this. Can I. Can I learn you some things? No, actually that I won't.
Leonardo Joanie
No.
Tim Pool
And I won't. Far be it for me to tell a woman what to think.
Leonardo Joanie
Absolutely not. This is, this is the age of pure womanhood.
John Rocker
And I'm going to take advantage of it.
Tim Pool
You've been doing a good job.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
When the Cold War ended and they split up the Soviet Union Union, whoever the oligarchs were that decided the new borders, took that part of the Ukraine away from Russia, gave it to the Ukraine on purpose because they wanted to disempower the new Russian country, take away its mature, didn't become the hegemon in the region and give it no access
Tim Pool
to the Black Sea.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
So they took away Sevastopol in the Crimea, they gave it to the Ukraine.
Tim Pool
Probably, you know, money guys, oligarchs, I don't know who they were.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Let's find out. And Russia's like, bro, we can't get into the Mediterranean Sea.
Tim Pool
It's like if they, they took off
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
a partition on the west coast of the US and gave a little strip all the way to Canada, all the way down the coast. You think we wouldn't invade to take Pacific coast access back?
John Rocker
We would.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
And so the Russians want their Black Sea access back.
Leonardo Joanie
They do. And you know, to be fair, to be fair, it's not like I want Russia to have that, because Russia, you know, I'm ethnically Albanian and Russia empowered a bunch of Serbs to go into my country and start genociding my people. So I'm not necessarily like pro give Russia access to the Black Sea, but It's kind of disingenuous to say Russia just invaded Ukraine out of nowhere.
Tim Pool
Well, no one's saying this, but I'll tell you what I think. I think that the military industrial complex, Alex was facing a big challenge in the 2000 and tens and that was you look at the rise of Alex Jones.
Leonardo Joanie
They couldn't figure out how to make more money.
Tim Pool
No, they couldn't control people like Alex Jones who were actually starting to. Aside from the more wacky things Alex does say, starting to actually crack through their psychological operations. And so it got to a point where at the end of the 2010s, the information was leaking at an alarming rate, especially with WikiLeaks and they could not control it with the Internet. However, what you just said about why Israel wants a corridor to Ukraine is like, you know, I want to try to refrain from being mean, but like made up Internet bs, right?
Leonardo Joanie
I listen, all I pedal in is made up Internet bs.
Tim Pool
Well, there you go.
Leonardo Joanie
If you're not going to bring what my field of expertise is. Well, first of all, Candace is doing a better job. Shout out Candace. Dude hooked me up with your production team, cuz I can spin a yarn. And second of all, I don't think everything Candace is saying is wrong. But she gets a little wacky. She gets a little wacky?
Tim Pool
Oh man. A little wacky. Look, she claimed my brother tried to kill me. And people believe this.
Leonardo Joanie
How dare you speak out against a powerful black woman. That's all I have to say. Okay, well, Asian, African, tribal warfare that's going on right now. You're half Korean, right? Or something?
Tim Pool
Is that a quarter? Well, we're gonna go and magically we learned through DNA that 5% Japanese, if you know what that means.
Leonardo Joanie
What does that mean?
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
The rape of Nank.
Tim Pool
Look it up.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Yeah, Japanese were crazy.
Tim Pool
Koreans don't, don't consensually have Japanese in them for the most part. I love it because Japanese people get really mad at me when I say that I'm part Japanese. Can't do anything about it now. It's what you get.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Correct, sensei.
Tim Pool
Okay, so real quick for the, for the, for the listeners at home to understand why the Ukraine war happened, it's because there's a series of countries the U. S wanted to overthrow for a variety of reasons. One of the principal reasons for the Ukraine war is the Qatar Turkey pipeline where the U. S wanted to build an oil pipeline through Iraq, through Syria, Turkey into Europe to offset Russia's Gazprom gas monopoly. They control 20 of natural gas into Europe through Ukraine. Bashar Al Assad told the United States, sorry, I won't let you do this. We are allied with, with Russia. They have a naval base in Tartus. So we're.
Leonardo Joanie
This is the guy in Turkey.
Tim Pool
No, this is Bashar Al Assad in Syria.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay, all right.
Tim Pool
And so the US Then went, he's a terrorist who needs to be killed. And then Barack Obama starts sending weapons to the rebels, which eventually become isis, destabilizing the region in the hopes that Assad will get removed from power and then we can resume the construction of our natural gas pipeline. The principal issue is that for Europe to get energy, they principally have to get it from Russia, who charges a lot of money for it, which gives Russia economic power and it gives them negotiating power. It had nothing to do with Israel, had nothing to do with, with Zelinsky. The issue was that.
Leonardo Joanie
So how does Zelinsky, how does Zelinsky, a fucking transvestite comedian dancing in leather
Tim Pool
chaps, get elected USAID.
Leonardo Joanie
But come on, bro. Yeah, it's less than 2% of the population and this is who happens to get elected.
Tim Pool
No, I mean, Barack Obama represented less than 3% of the population. He got elected too.
Leonardo Joanie
Are you saying he represented less than 3% because he was mixed race? Yeah, well, that's not the way people saw him.
Tim Pool
No, of course I agree.
Leonardo Joanie
He represented less than 13%. He represented every non white and every self hating white.
Tim Pool
Sure. The point I'm making is that the United States want, I should say the Western powers, we call it Europe, and the United States wanted to take. So when we couldn't get the pipeline through Syria, the alternative to that is to control the access point. So you get the bombing of the Nord Stream pipeline, which was Russia's delivery mechanism into Germany, because Donald Trump was pissed off that while we're trying to get cheaper energy and we are fighting Russia, Germany's cutting deals, effectively financing the war in Ukraine, which the whole point of was to get cheaper gas. If we can get Ukraine and we can cut off Russia from the Black Sea through Sevastopol by taking, by taking control of Ukraine, then Russia is going to be severely detrimented economically. And so let me ask you, Russia
Leonardo Joanie
invades, why couldn't they just get an ethnic Ukrainian who wants this also to be the Prime Minister?
Tim Pool
Because I think only people like you care about the Jewish background of Zelensky. Whoa, whoa, whoa, you people, you people. First of all, yeah, he's talking about women.
Phillip Filler
He's talking about women.
Tim Pool
I'm talking about women.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't listen to Candace Owens. I can't afford her premium subscription. I just see. I see the clips like you did tell more jokes.
Tim Pool
That's true. Just the clips.
Leonardo Joanie
You keep it up and you're gonna. I'm gonna make sure your other need doesn't.
Tim Pool
Hold on. Here's a question for you. When Israel set this show up, why did they get a Kore to do it?
Leonardo Joanie
Listen, you're obviously quite intelligent, Tim. And you. You have decided to ally yourself with the forces of evil. And. And that's okay and.
Tim Pool
Are you talking about the Jews?
Leonardo Joanie
Everybody thinks you're wearing a beanie because you're hiding a yarmul under there.
Tim Pool
I am.
Leonardo Joanie
I know that. It's cuz you have two horns. You don't want anybody to see.
Tim Pool
No, they they they they they they.
John Rocker
Could be a bald spot. Could be.
Tim Pool
No, it's complete and total baldness. The danger is one small spot.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Zelensky being Jewish. Is it a correlation? And there is no evidence that anyone did anything.
Tim Pool
So to speculate, sort of.
Leonardo Joanie
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Tim Pool
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Tim Pool
to save life correctly.
Leonardo Joanie
Just like low IQ racism, right? I see a Mexican and I go I'm not getting raped today. And across the street. Now the Mexican might just be a normal guy, right?
John Rocker
But he also could be a cholo.
Leonardo Joanie
But he could be a cholo.
John Rocker
Watch your ass.
Leonardo Joanie
And this has helped me in my Life. So you're not gonna take away the only weapons of self defense I have.
Tim Pool
Wait, wait, hold on. Like a Jewish guy try to rape you or something?
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, listen, I grew up in the Bronx. Everybody was trying to rape me.
Tim Pool
Okay, that's actually one good. Back in the day, this is important. This is actually how women think.
John Rocker
Young, young, young bloomer, early bloomer.
Leonardo Joanie
This is a true story. Okay?
John Rocker
That Bronx finger going.
Leonardo Joanie
This is a true story. I grew up in the Bronx in an apartment building three doors down. I had a pedophile neighbor, little pedophile neighbor who started stalking me from the ages of 8 to 11. Looked a little bit like you there, Tim.
Tim Pool
Bald head, Korean.
Leonardo Joanie
No, he was just bald, Bald Head,
John Rocker
turned 12, lost interest.
Leonardo Joanie
Druggie guy, druggie guy, stalk. Used to come knock on my door and be like, like, hey, can you open? I. I was a smart little kid, so I knew, I was like, oh, my mom told me like a lot of people gonna danger because you're a good looking.
Tim Pool
You were like, no, I won't open the door because you're Jewish.
Leonardo Joanie
And he was like, damn, he was Jewish.
Tim Pool
That proves it.
Leonardo Joanie
So that's where it started. So now. No, no, he wasn't.
Phillip Filler
He.
Leonardo Joanie
He was a non functioning, you know, his.
Tim Pool
But here's the non functioning.
Leonardo Joanie
His parents, his parents lived in the apartment before him. They were the nicest old Jewish couple. They were so sweet to us. And then he moved. His dad died and then he moved in and ended up like aging crazy within a year of him moving in there and dying. And then he started trying to rape me.
Tim Pool
My, My opinion on all of this is there's. There's a couple different psychological operations we've seen through social media manipulation to get people to support war. And there's also foreign adversaries that try to manipulate social media. There's a lot of weird stuff going on that I couldn't begin to even understand as to. Why, for instance, is this gonna be
Leonardo Joanie
about Candace Owens again?
Tim Pool
Because it could be if you want it to be.
Leonardo Joanie
Did you guys like break up or something?
Tim Pool
We were never friends really. I knew her. She's been on the show before. Yeah, we had a show a couple times and I was like, you know, friendly, but if you want to be about her, then I'll. Then I'll. Then I'll. No, I don't. Too late. She brought it up. Why is it that she's allowed to break all of YouTube's rules and get. And get put on the front page?
Leonardo Joanie
It's because she's Black. Dude, there's different rules for blacks.
John Rocker
She's kind of hot, too. She's gonna.
Tim Pool
The other question is, take it easy. Why isn't Erica K. Swinger?
Leonardo Joanie
Maybe they have. Maybe it's a little wwe.
Tim Pool
Have you seen some of the things people have been posting on Threads and Blue sky about Erica Kirk?
Leonardo Joanie
No.
Tim Pool
Women are going to hang out with gay people. She's kind of invited women. Did you see that? She's gonna. Yeah, she took Charlie Kirk's seat on the board of the Air Force or something.
Leonardo Joanie
Listen, whatever you think about that situation, you got to admit it's a little weird that your husband gets publicly executed and then you're like, in leather pants doing acrobatics with freaking fireworks going off. Everybody's gonna feel a little weird. Maybe everybody does grieve differently, but they do grieve, and it's. It's a little weird.
Tim Pool
So maybe a little. I'm.
Leonardo Joanie
No, no.
John Rocker
What are you saying?
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I think senior husband get his jugular blown out's a little weird too.
Leonardo Joanie
It's a little weird.
Tim Pool
You said it was a little weird. I said, yeah, a little. And then you said, no, it's like, extremely weird. Oh, it's extremely weird.
Leonardo Joanie
It's quite weird to watch that. And then, and then just go, okay, yeah, this. I guess this is just. Everybody does things differently. It's weird.
John Rocker
Hurt.
Tim Pool
It is.
John Rocker
It's.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
She's in such a high stress situation. I can't blame her for anything.
Tim Pool
Like, my, my thought of the matter is she's like, probably on Xanax. It's just like when I hear hooves,
Leonardo Joanie
I think, horse is not zero that could do it.
Tim Pool
And what do you think you do when you watch your husband get his. Get his head blown off?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know.
Tim Pool
Because he probably takes answers.
Leonardo Joanie
That wasn't even my husband. And that was traumatized.
Tim Pool
Indeed. I, I and all my friends. I mean, it was, it was insane when this was going on and everyone's trying to figure out what's happening. I say this with the utmost respect to my friends at Turning Point USA and the people who hate me there, that I'm not trying to be a dick, but I think it's fair to say that a woman who watches her husband get assassinated probably got some mood stabilizers. And so people are like, why is she acting like that? I'd imagine if you watched your husband die publicly being shot in the throat, you might be an antidepressant.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah. But it's also got a little bit
John Rocker
of the megachurch she got Some tooth, like.
Tim Pool
And so people are like, why is she acting that way? I think like they're women are all antidepressants and they haven't even witnessed their husbands getting murdered. So it's like, why is she acting that way? Cuz she got prescribed a mood stabilizer or just stress.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Stress will make you. Can make you crazy.
Tim Pool
I think, I think one of the problems we have right now in this country is that the Democrats have always been the party. Not always, but I would say, at least in my lifetime, they've been the party of the masses are really dumb. So say whatever you have to say so that they vote for you. And Republicans have been the. It's a mixed bag. Many of them are also doing the same thing.
Leonardo Joanie
I mean, George W. Bush, right?
Tim Pool
Indeed. But the problem is Republicans were always slightly smaller than Democrats. So there was a decent amount of middle of the road people that were hard to swing. And those are your independents for the most part. And so negotiating with them is tough.
John Rocker
Tough.
Tim Pool
If you're trying to get support for a war, then you're going to go lowest common denominator. They hate us for our freedoms. And you'll get a little bit on both sides, which makes, makes you bigger than that middle of the road that can, that can shift things back and forth. So when I see like, I gotta be honest, like this really low tier, like Zelensky's a Jew stuff, I'm like,
Leonardo Joanie
man, that's not even, that's not even the thing. The real thing is why we've been at war in the Middle east since the foundation of Israel. We did not go to any wars with the Middle east before the foundation.
Tim Pool
Are you familiar with the Barbary Wars?
Leonardo Joanie
It doesn't matter.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
There was conflict to what I'm talking about.
Leonardo Joanie
And every single, you know, every single one of these wars has been championed by Mr. Milowski, whatever, however you say, his actual real name, Benjamin Netanyahu. And honestly, honestly, look, I don't want to see Americans dying for something that doesn't have anything to do with them.
Tim Pool
That's not true.
Leonardo Joanie
And yes it is true.
Tim Pool
No, it isn't.
Leonardo Joanie
Yes, it is.
Tim Pool
No, it isn't. It's completely wrong.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay?
Tim Pool
And my point earlier was I've been tracking this stuff like basically my whole life. Since the Iraq war, my, my whole life has been entrenched in the politics of these things. And then all of a sudden some, like some retard goes to the Internet and says it was Israel the whole time. I'm not talking about you Even before I was on, I'm talking about higher profile individuals who are going on big shows and being like, it's actually Israel the whole time. And I'm like, hold on there a gosh darn minute. We had a major conflict with China over the Nicaraguan Canal. That was not Israel. But the, but the Israel people don't read at all. They never read. They see a meme online about a rabbi and then they say a nasty thing about the goyim and they're like, well, now I'm angry. I'm angry for this reason. And I'm like, you are allowed to hate Israel. That was always allowed. But the love of God, can you talk to me about. You talk to me about Greenland. You talked to me about Taiwan.
Phillip Filler
Hold on one second. It's worth noting that like the entire oughts, right. The entire time between like 2001 to 2010, everybody was saying that the war was for oil. It was all about just getting the oil. It's all about the no blood for now. Yeah, no blood for oil. And now the modern thing that's going on is, oh, it's all wars for Israel. And it flipped that that was a real change.
Leonardo Joanie
I know what you're talking about. But at the same time also, if you remember, a lot of people were saying that Bush did 911 and now a lot of people are saying people
Tim Pool
didn't start Jews at 911 because they're now.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, now they're saying Israel had a hand in that.
Tim Pool
Yeah, because they're Saudis are being sued over their involvement 911 and they were protected by the US government. Why? Why? Because we had the petrodollar contract at Saudi Arabia and we don't want to lose. Basically it functions like this. Saudi Arabia, one of the largest oil producers in the world, next to Venezuela, agrees that if anybody wants to buy from them, they have to use US Dollars, which means China has to buy US Bonds, US Dollars before they can buy oil. So when the Saudis are implicated in 9 11, the US says we're going to cover this up and protect you. However, they weren't able to completely and there's an active lawsuit ongoing over Saudi involved. And the reason why people are, these people are being protected is because Donald Trump is desperate to re up the petrodollar contract, which ended I think a couple years ago, which means China and Russia are going to start trading in other currencies. And they already have been doing this. And so the response, and I'm going to tell you this The Iran war. We predicted it a long time ago. We talked about it endlessly. When the petrodollar contract with Saudi Arabia ended, I said, said, we are going to get a Middle Eastern war right now. It's going to be largely at their behest.
Phillip Filler
June 2024.
Tim Pool
Indeed, because we have to get back on this contract. Otherwise the US economy crashes. And so I will just say this. As to the issue of Israel, by all means, criticize their ideology.
Leonardo Joanie
Criticize their states that have anti BDS laws. They're passing anti Semitism bills against them.
Tim Pool
Tell me about any of the other bills they have that are comparable for other countries.
Leonardo Joanie
How many? 30. How many states have anti. You can't say anything about China. How many of them have. How many?
Tim Pool
You don't know.
Leonardo Joanie
You tell me.
Tim Pool
You made the point. So you tell me what the states are doing.
Leonardo Joanie
You tell me. Because you don't know. None of you know.
Tim Pool
You don't understand how this works. If you make a point and I ask you to elaborate on it and you can't.
Leonardo Joanie
There are zero. There are zero states that have. You can't criticize China laws.
Tim Pool
You're sure?
Leonardo Joanie
Correct.
Tim Pool
You made a point. I'm asking you to elaborate.
Leonardo Joanie
Yes, that's correct. There are 38 states that have anti BDS laws. Are you kidding me? I thought this was the country of free speech. I thought this is the country of association.
Tim Pool
What are those laws?
Leonardo Joanie
They make it so that if you work in the government, you cannot protest Israel. You can't boycott them.
Tim Pool
If you work in the government.
Leonardo Joanie
That's correct. If you're like a government contractor.
Tim Pool
You mean if you're a private company that does government contract.
Leonardo Joanie
That's correct.
Tim Pool
You can't boycott.
Leonardo Joanie
That's correct. You can't boycott Israel.
Tim Pool
I disagree with that.
Leonardo Joanie
So that's why people. You can't just be like, oh, people are just crazy.
Tim Pool
No, they are, though.
Leonardo Joanie
No, hold on. You can't just be like, oh, they're just seeing Jews everywhere.
Tim Pool
They are.
Leonardo Joanie
When there is literally laws that protect Israel in a way that don't even protect Americans. Like here, Texas. Texas, okay. There's a little tiny city of San Marcos, which is so small, okay? Every state, every city makes a contribution to Israel. San Marcos was going through their budget. They realized, holy, we're giving this much money to Israel wasn't a huge amount because they're tiny. And they go, you know what we got potholes, polls. We don't want to do that. So we object. You know what Governor Abbott said? We're Going to withhold any funding from
Tim Pool
you if you do that sounds like a Texas thing.
Leonardo Joanie
So it's not just here.
Tim Pool
So. So the point, we don't disagree on that issue. The issue is you've identified a circumstance which is objectionable and then extrapolated all other foreign policy to this thing.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Check the answer out. I asked the jet. It says there are no US States with laws that prohibit speaking critically about Chinese. The First Amendment to the US Customers protects freedom of speech, including the right to criticize foreign government. So I replace the word China with Israel. Yes. There are 38 states. It tells you. And the reason you can't criticize because of the First Amendment.
Tim Pool
38 states.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
You can't speak critically about Israel. So sorry, Jim, I didn't want to waste time.
Tim Pool
Is relating to government contracting with Israel.
Leonardo Joanie
Sorry if I don't like the erasure of American freedoms. Freedom of speech being the number one. Because I'm a fucking comedian and there is shit that they canceled me for. Not about Israel. Other cultural jokes. Right. And. And people actually feel like if I say something that offends their sensibilities, they have a right to physically attack me. Now you tell me how we're supposed to go forward as an American country with freedom of speech and liberty when you literally are training 50 of the population to think that violence is a
Tim Pool
perfectly carry a gun. So what violence are you referring to? I missed that. I'm sorry.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, when people. Well, I've, I've made jokes that have pissed people off and I've literally had people send me death threats, say they're coming to my show and they're going to kill me.
John Rocker
Yeah, you're a lightweight.
Tim Pool
You're a. I know you were.
Leonardo Joanie
You said that. But, but what I'm saying is I
Tim Pool
think the Ukrainians control.
Leonardo Joanie
So that's happening on an emotional social level. But then our own government is actually passing law laws to make your freedom of speech.
Phillip Filler
There, there are, there are people in government that are. That are stepping over the line when it comes to things like, you know, speaking about, you know, you can't make this joke, you can't make these remarks. You have to protect people from anti Semitism. I think that any of those laws, any regulation about what people are allowed to say or what jokes people can make, those are all ridiculous. But there is a difference between when there's people that are passing laws and the stuff that you're talking about. If people are making threats because they don't like, like what you're saying and
Leonardo Joanie
so fully agree but it's. I think our culture is being shaped top down.
Tim Pool
I don't think Ukrainians have been controlling everything from the beginning. I mean, have you ever stopped to think about it? We have given. We have given. Okay, you plug your ears. We have given Ukraine more money in two years than we've given Israel in 70.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay.
Tim Pool
Did you know that? Did you know that we have our members of Congress, each and every one of them waving Ukrainian flags in our Congress?
Leonardo Joanie
Thank you, Tim. Thanks for that. I appreciate this.
Tim Pool
You don't. You don't care about that.
Leonardo Joanie
No, no.
Tim Pool
You literally don't care that our members
Leonardo Joanie
of Congress are flying fit with my paradigm of reality. So I'm gonna just leave it out
Tim Pool
so it just doesn't happen.
John Rocker
Oh, so you're a liberal now? Yeah, there you go. Flip right here on set.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
The liberal order just wants.
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Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
It's the whole area.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay, so you know because.
Tim Pool
Because you don't read. There are actually several states that have comparable anti BDS laws for China. Indeed.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Okay, well, okay, so let's start with Texas. Texas prohibits companies that. From working with companies like China, Russia, Iran and North Korea specifically prohibits working with those companies.
Phillip Filler
Yes.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay. That's not the same thing as an anti BDS law. Tim, stop being disingenuous.
Tim Pool
No. Okay, if you're. So you're saying it prohibits you from
Leonardo Joanie
working with those companies.
Tim Pool
From working with them.
Leonardo Joanie
Right. It does not prohibit you. You from protesting.
Tim Pool
I have a right to do business. Like the point that I was addressing was, don't we have freedom of speech? Shouldn't I be allowed to contract with a country that we're not war with?
Leonardo Joanie
You should have freedom.
Tim Pool
Should you be allowed to do a business as a contractor with a country we are not at war with?
Leonardo Joanie
It depends. I think. No, I think it depends.
Tim Pool
I think so. No, freedom. No freedom.
Leonardo Joanie
No, no, no. Hold on. This whole thing with. Should a. Should a person who has land in the middle of Texas Be allowed to sell it to some Chinese investor who wants to come in and build a freaking Muslim thing for some reason to subvert. Should he be allowed to do that? No, no he shouldn't. But your government should not be able to tell you that you can't protest a government. Another country. There's a difference.
Phillip Filler
But you, but it's not, it's not for everybody. It's just for people that have government contracts. Right? That's what the anti bds.
John Rocker
A lot of that stuff came about with harbor etc accepting government grants and also having massive protest which I like on their campus. I'm on, I'm, I'm leading the violence etc.
Tim Pool
Etc.
Phillip Filler
Yeah, I'm, I'm in total agreement with you that people should be able to say whatever they want. Like I, I completely agree the any kind of like laws.
Leonardo Joanie
These are private contractors who have a government contract.
Phillip Filler
So. And, and I think that even if they work for a private contractor, they should be able to say, you know, I don't, I don't think the US should be supporting this or what have you. But at the same time I'm extremely like pro preventing like communists from coming to the U.S. i really, I like
John Rocker
the idea of selected one in New York.
Phillip Filler
Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, he is
Tim Pool
a, he is a. I actually don't think he is. Remember the d. If you, if you look at what he's been doing in New York, it's like raising the taxes on the poor and like that's, that's communism.
Phillip Filler
I think it's, I think he's ready.
Leonardo Joanie
You know.
Tim Pool
No, maybe it's having the inverse effect of like, like he, he, he's, he's attacking the people. Well yeah, you know, you're right. You guys are completely right. That is communism.
Leonardo Joanie
That is communism.
Tim Pool
Voted for him.
Leonardo Joanie
Always ends up destroying the poor.
Phillip Filler
Yeah, it's the, it's, it's the red green.
Leonardo Joanie
No, to my point. Here's the thing. There isn't. There aren't even equivalent laws for government contractors to not be able to protest the US this country.
Phillip Filler
Well the. There, there's all kinds of stuff where, like when it comes to like, don't you think that's.
Leonardo Joanie
Why would we all of a sudden
Tim Pool
there be, should, shouldn't there special regulation
Leonardo Joanie
for this one country?
Phillip Filler
There shouldn't.
Tim Pool
Like I said, I agree with you. I don't think there should be.
Phillip Filler
There should be special, there should be special prohibitions on people that, that want to support like bds.
Tim Pool
I will say very plainly, I've Never agreed with these, these laws. I've criticized Florida when they were putting these things out. But again, that still falls in the framework of the US Government is mandating US People support their military operations. And you've inverted it.
Leonardo Joanie
Hold on. Because if that was true, then you would have similar laws for government, for private contractors who have a government contract to not be able to protest.
Tim Pool
Yeah, there's no big movements at universities to boycott Ukraine.
Phillip Filler
And there.
Leonardo Joanie
And there are, but this is also about.
Tim Pool
So they don't need that.
Phillip Filler
And when it comes to. Listen, when it comes to government, it is honest to say that when it comes to government employees, there are different rules to have contracts, protectors. And now, again, I don't think that. That Israel should be singled out to be protected.
Tim Pool
But it's the only country.
Leonardo Joanie
They don't even have it. For this own country, for our own country, you want to say, oops, sorry. Right, right.
Tim Pool
But. But again, that still falls in the framework of they are a puppet state for the United States. They were a vassal created by Western powers.
Leonardo Joanie
That is, Is it.
John Rocker
Is it Israel specifically? Are these laws Israel specific or they. Are they Jewish specific?
Tim Pool
I'm going to say this as derisively as possible to everybody. The problem we have is you don't read. You have no idea what you're talking about. So when I bring up something like the Cutter Turkey pipeline, for instance, you don't know what that is?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know what the cutter.
Tim Pool
You are so damn sure that reality is the way you've seen it without reading a single book.
Leonardo Joanie
Whoa. First of all, I read a lot
Tim Pool
of books, but not the ones that matter.
Leonardo Joanie
On foreign policy might be about, you know, having sex with an anthropomorphic bull, but it doesn't matter.
John Rocker
Women do lots of that work.
Leonardo Joanie
Anthropomorphic.
Tim Pool
I don't think you read that book.
Leonardo Joanie
No, I definitely didn't read that book. But I do read a lot. But there's a lot to. Actually, there's a lot of books to read. Okay.
Tim Pool
Yeah, but there's the news.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, but the news is full of.
Tim Pool
Yes, but if you were tracking the news over the past 20 years, you're reading things like WikiLeaks and you're reading the emails these people are writing.
Leonardo Joanie
I am reading things like WikiLeaks. Indeed.
Tim Pool
And then you would know about the true motivations of the military industrial complex.
Leonardo Joanie
That's why I knew about how up India was. Sorry, again, that's how I knew about how messed up India was before anybody did. Because I read WikiLeaks and I happened to stumble across three emails that described one of the worst cultures in existence. So I do read, and I'm sorry, I can't read everything about every possible problem.
Tim Pool
No, just Israel. Just literally. Please read something about foreign policy.
Leonardo Joanie
No, I do read a lot about Israel and that's why.
Tim Pool
So tell me why Israel wanted Panama.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know. That's our thing. That wasn't them.
Tim Pool
Wait, what? That makes no sense. Israel controls the government.
Leonardo Joanie
Hold on, I didn't say everything was theirs. Don't put me in a position that makes it. Don't put me in a strong position.
Tim Pool
What percentage of what we do is based on Israel?
Leonardo Joanie
What percentage of what we do in the Middle East?
Tim Pool
No, just in general. All the things we do. What fraction does it make up?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know what fraction it makes up of everything we do. I don't think everything we do is based on them. I don't think every interventionist war we've had is based on them. But I do think a lot of our activity in the Middle east, and I think this thing with Iran specifically. Yes. I mean, when try. Because. Because it's their enemy. They're the ones who don't want Iran there because they feel that uncomfortable. They think like Iran's going to attack them and they want to get rid of their enemy because they want you.
Tim Pool
So there is a real ideological reason Israel has. Do you know it?
Leonardo Joanie
It's what I know. It's like the whole Muslims want to kill us.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
No.
Tim Pool
It's actually a specific military reason.
Leonardo Joanie
No, maybe I don't.
Tim Pool
Then again, this plays to the issue I have of the people who are like, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to give you the answer, but I'm going to make this point first. He didn't even bother looking up why Israel wants to wipe out Iran.
Leonardo Joanie
No, I do.
Tim Pool
It's because Iran's funding Hamas. It's because they're supplying weapons.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay, great. Great, great, great. I got it. Yes. Iran is funding Hamas. Got it. So they want to get rid of them because they've got this terrorist group that's attacking them.
Phillip Filler
And Hezbollah.
Tim Pool
Yes, and Hezbollah, indeed. And Israel wants to secure the entire state as a singular Israeli entity. And they don't want there to be a Palestine, west bank or otherwise. And they're slowly conquering it.
Leonardo Joanie
Great. Do you think that that's not business? But they're not doing that without us.
Tim Pool
Indeed. Because the US uses Israel as a base for the control of the Suez,
Leonardo Joanie
okay, so the US and the Gulf uses Israel to control, but Israel is accomplishing what it wants with.
Tim Pool
That's usually how alliances work. Just like the US is involved. Before Trump, the US was spent $250 billion on Ukraine for the purpose of protecting European countries, countries who weren't spending their own money to do it. And it's so that we could control gas prices for Europe. I don't think that Angela Merkel was secretly running the US Government, though, because of it. I think that Donald Trump says, or our president, be it Obama or otherwise, they have different strategies for how we police the world for the liberal economic order. So when Russia invades Ukraine for the purpose.
Leonardo Joanie
Gay liberal economic order.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Indeed.
Tim Pool
And the problem people have with the US Empire is that we're trying to make them all gay communists. We go to Afghanistan and we put up murals of gay communism and they get mad about it, and rightly so. Russia invaded Ukraine for many reasons. One was that the us, The Western powers of Europe were trying to seize control of it because the Qatar Turkey pipeline failed. And so we're trying to control natural gas in Ukraine, which would lock out Russia's monopoly through Gazprom. This is why Joe Biden sent his son to go work for Burisma and they get Mykolosa Chevsky to start an energy company in Ukraine. It's all about controlling the region. Region. The reason why Russia invaded first, it's because their only warm water port is in Sevastopol. Now, some people have argued they could easily build along the eastern coast, but that would be that you're telling them, abandon your billion dollar naval base where your flagship is and all of the military assets and secrets behind it to NATO or take control of Crimea. So Russia never invaded Crimea. They simply walked out the front door and then said, we're holding a referendum, which is probably illegitimate. The reason the war starts started when Donald Trump was in office. There was no war because Trump was basically saying to Russia, we're not going to go to war with you. You're not. Our biggest concern under the, under the Obama administration, that was their biggest concern because homeboy was paying off Iran and then pissed off that Russia was charging money to Europe. So as soon as Joe Biden gets back in, what do you think happens? He starts. I mean, first of all, you get more terror in the Middle east because they want the instability to remove Bashar Al Assad. Then you get Russia building up troops on the eastern front front because they are on their western front, on the eastern front. Of Ukraine because they know what Biden wants to do. And then they invade for the purpose of securing a land bridge into Crimea so they can maintain control of their warm water ports, which they have to use if they want to sell oil through the Mediterranean, through the Red Sea, et cetera.
Leonardo Joanie
I got it.
Tim Pool
Jews had nothing to do with it.
Leonardo Joanie
I got it. My point is that the majority of our involvement in the Middle east is on behalf of Israel. Drill. Doesn't matter which president we have. We keep getting wars in the Middle East.
Tim Pool
Yep.
Leonardo Joanie
Trump ran on a campaign, Trump ran on a campaign that said, no new wars. We're not going to war with Iran. He was telling Netanyahu, don't do this. And what do we get?
Tim Pool
So is it not a coincidence that every one of these wars is for the, for the benefit of the petrodollar system?
Leonardo Joanie
I didn't say that. We're not getting a benefit from it. I didn't say that.
Tim Pool
Okay. Are they threatening the petrodollar system?
Leonardo Joanie
System, sure.
Tim Pool
So the US Would do this with or without Israel?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't think so. I don't think so. Because I think we would have a different kind of negotiating power with them if they don't feel like, yes, we would.
Tim Pool
Was Trump negotiating with, with Iran?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't, I think they would have a different kind of ability to negotiate with them if they weren't afraid that we're coming in there and basically destroying their countries with these gay race communist revolutions that we sponsor.
Tim Pool
Yeah, but that's, that's western Marxist stuff.
Phillip Filler
The communist stuff. Like the communists want to get into
Leonardo Joanie
where Marxism comes from. We could do that too.
Tim Pool
You can mention that many of the early thinkers on transgenderism were Jewish. Sure. But again, here we go. This, Here we go. What?
Leonardo Joanie
Because listen, I, I, let's move on because John's getting bored.
John Rocker
Seriously, my ass is falling asleep.
Leonardo Joanie
He was, he, he was here under the precursor.
John Rocker
My left leg that goes numb. Now it says all the way up.
Tim Pool
We can't. Because the next story we have is Lindsey Graham saying he stands with Israel. Let's.
John Rocker
Let's roll.
Tim Pool
We got this clip that's going viral. I'm gonna play it for you guys right now. All the isolationists I don't blame. Forget it. I'm not with you. I'm with Israel. I will be with Israel to our dying day. They're the best.
John Rocker
Good grief.
Phillip Filler
Lindsay. Chief.
Tim Pool
And President Trump, who I think is Ronald Reagan. Plus, so here's the problem with what he said. First of all, what did he say? Semites. Yes.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
He was slurring.
Tim Pool
It was crazy. Yeah. All the anti Semites. I have no problem with saying anti Semites can go, you know, go F off. But isolationism is just an opinion. It's an opinion that Americans are allowed to have. So when he, when he adds that to the mix, it's not about whether someone just hates Jews, because by all means you can criticize those people and say, I'm not going to stand with you. But when someone is an isolationist, even the most extreme of isolationists, that's something Americans are allowed to be. It's not hateful or otherwise. It's a thought, it's a philosophy. To say you're not gonna stand with Americans of opinions that you don't agree with and you'd rather stand with a foreign country I think is reprehensible. I do not like Lindsey Graham. I think. I don't for life of me understand how they don't primary this guy and get somebody else in. And I think to all the people. Cuz I criticize him and said he should be removed from office. And there are a lot of Jewish people who are like, no, no, you need to really listen to what he's saying. No, you need to check your pr because this guy is bad for you too, too. And he's bad for this country. And everybody agrees. So there we go and you agree. And this is where we all agree.
Leonardo Joanie
I like Lindsey Graham.
John Rocker
Nothing.
Leonardo Joanie
I like when it's so fucking blatant like that that we've got a homosexual, probably pedophile being blackmailed by our greatest out. I like that dude being blackmailed.
Tim Pool
Hey, he's not being blackmailed.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I wonder if he's in the Epstein flowers.
Leonardo Joanie
Listen to me. I like when it's obvious that this alcoholic, what's probably brilliant Holland or whatever his.
Tim Pool
That guy's name is Bryland Hollyhand.
Leonardo Joanie
I can't listen. He's got too many Y's and L's together in his name. Don't ask me to pronounce that. Okay. I like when he lets out his little closet boy toy to come out and talk sometimes. So it's so obvious because it's harder when they're the.
Tim Pool
The secret more. You know, the secret to. There was a Marco Rubio quote. I think it was Rubio. Someone yelled at him that he was funded by the nra. And he said, they don't pay me to speak. They donate to my camp because they like what I speak. And this is the truth. Working in, like working for abc, for instance. ABC News. And like these big corporations, they don't go to people and say, I'm going to pay you to say this thing about Israel. They go before they hire the person, they say, what do you think about Israel? And then hire them because they support them. My point is they're not blackmailing Lindsey Graham.
Leonardo Joanie
Them.
Tim Pool
He lives and breathes. That's why they donate it to him.
Leonardo Joanie
That's right. He does.
Tim Pool
He does what?
John Rocker
Where's this coming from? There's some. There's some juicy gospel know about.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know. We. This. I. I think I pedal in unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that end up so you
Tim Pool
know, the reality is most conspiracies that for the past 10 years have turned out to be true.
Leonardo Joanie
I. I didn't really have any facts about why I didn't want to take the shot hot. I just saw a Jew made it and I was like, no thanks.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I hope I'm Jewish.
Tim Pool
I just want to find out.
Phillip Filler
I'm saving up to be bro.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
First of all, he needs a reformation.
Leonardo Joanie
First of all, you're too Aryan to be Jewish. You are Viking descendant.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Technically bloodline.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay?
Tim Pool
That's right. Ian is a strong Viking North European.
Leonardo Joanie
Sniff out everybody's DNA by looking at them.
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Tim Pool
All right, what else? What else am I.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, you got some. Ah, geez. It is it.
Tim Pool
You can't. Once you're mixed, it's like you don't even know. I could be and that that's why
Leonardo Joanie
the nation is a sin against God.
John Rocker
Do Koreans hate Jews? They have a problem with Jews?
Leonardo Joanie
No, no, but the Japs do.
Tim Pool
They might actually. Koreans are racial supremacists. They think they're the superior.
Leonardo Joanie
No, they like Jews. They think what the Jews are doing is great. They're trying to emulate them.
John Rocker
I dated a Korean 1 for 3 1/2 years and yeah, it was always the argument argument. Who's better in the Asian culture? Japanese? Korean?
Tim Pool
No, no, Koreans think they're better than everyone.
John Rocker
Yeah, yeah. They got a little bit of attitude.
Tim Pool
Koreans, it's sort of waning in modern history. But typically Koreans have been racial supremacists. Like if you are in Korea, it is not atypical to see an older Korean say that they are the superior race, period. Of all races.
John Rocker
Yeah. Her parents off the boat, mother still can't speak English and yet she had a bit of an attitude. She appreciate me very much.
Tim Pool
And Japanese are also relatively racially supremacist,
Leonardo Joanie
racist and you know, okay, sorry. Every group should be racially supportive. It's healthy, it's health. I'm sorry. Do you love your family more than other families?
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
You gotta define the word love. There's a lot.
Leonardo Joanie
Don't be gay on the corner.
Tim Pool
He's gonna talk about Roman.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I love the community.
Leonardo Joanie
Stop being gay.
John Rocker
I love your haters.
Leonardo Joanie
Do you have kids? If in order to save my rocker over there. Do you have kids?
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Negative.
Leonardo Joanie
No. So that's why you.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
In order to save my family, I have to destroy my community.
Leonardo Joanie
You love your kid more than anybody else? Yes.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah. I would massacre. It's not even a question.
Leonardo Joanie
Thank you. Do you have kids?
John Rocker
No.
Tim Pool
Did you, did you say anything that
Leonardo Joanie
yes, you love your kids more than anybody. That's a healthy, normal fucking reaction.
John Rocker
Do you have kids?
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
So it can be.
Tim Pool
Did you see the former retired liberal.
Leonardo Joanie
Of course.
Tim Pool
Did you see what Tucker said, that viral clip which one where he was talking with Huckabee and Huckabee said, well, you know, they're trying to rescue their children. You know, what would you do if your children were being held by Hamas? And Tucker said, I wouldn't kill a 14 year old year old. And he got criticized for it.
Leonardo Joanie
Now I, I would annihilate everyone and their mother.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
That's not good.
Tim Pool
Yeah, I'm sorry,
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
that's not good. That's the self absorbed reality. If you're willing to annihilate everything on earth to remain on top, you,
Tim Pool
my child, will live. You're getting for like eight seconds
John Rocker
about
Tim Pool
destroying the planet entirely, which kills your kid.
Leonardo Joanie
Ian. Sorry, it's spelled E O N. I do like you, I like your, your, your liberal fierceness. But we're not talking about. So that they could remain on top. That's not what I meant. I meant if, like, look, if the choice was between you don't have a kid, so you don't get it. If you, if, if it's my kid's going to live or this other one's going to live. It's a hard choice, but every parent, every parent's going to go, it's my kid.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Yeah, but what if your kid society, like what's, at what point will you sacrifice yourself?
Tim Pool
Fantastic four, the new one.
Leonardo Joanie
Never.
Tim Pool
You are, you are.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Everyone thinks that then there will always be war and everyone will consume each other.
Tim Pool
You are intentionally misunderstanding the point to
John Rocker
destroy the planet, you would be killing
Tim Pool
your own child as well.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Exactly.
Tim Pool
So no one is arguing for that.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
At what point is it, how much waste are you willing to lay to preserve your own species, your own society, Society?
Tim Pool
Quite a bit. Quite a bit.
Leonardo Joanie
But my point was you loving your own kid more than other kids is pretty normal. And if you, you should feel that about your people. This idea that oh, I should be totally self effacing, this is a white western effect.
Phillip Filler
But my blame white people. Yeah, my people are full of awesome
Tim Pool
name, name, name, name A country ethnic majority that does what we do in the United States or Europe is China allowing other races and ethnic into their country to take control of their businesses and their institutions.
Leonardo Joanie
Japanese are a little bit, they're lending.
Tim Pool
Well recently they opened up immigration. But my point is this is a phenomenon of white cultures in Europe and
John Rocker
United States of western France, Great Britain,
Leonardo Joanie
Western northern European cultures.
Tim Pool
Well, not just northern, all of Europe. Well no, look at Italy, look at, look at Greece.
John Rocker
What Germany did.
Tim Pool
I mean Greece brought in tons of Serbia.
Leonardo Joanie
My mortal enemy, Russia.
Tim Pool
So southern, northern and western. But the eastern Europe are like, nah,
Leonardo Joanie
Eastern Europe because they survived gay race communism once. And they're like, no, we're not doing that again.
Tim Pool
There's a funny meme, it said it was a 4chan meme where they were like white men make up less than like 6% of the global population or something like this. And we are told in America that the Chinese people, despite there being 1.3 billion, you know, of them, are the minorities. Substantially more Asians and Indians than white people, but they're the minorities. No other country does that. And so what you at a certain point you have to recognize white people are doing this. But it's true. I mean by all means you can say there's ide. There's a bunch of problems for it. But why is it that it's only countries that were predominantly white that opened the doors and, and created these policies?
Phillip Filler
I know what you're thinking.
Leonardo Joanie
What am I thinking?
Phillip Filler
You're thinking it's the Jews.
Tim Pool
The Jews.
Phillip Filler
No, it's not.
Tim Pool
So they're not doing it in China.
Leonardo Joanie
They're not doing what in China? Sorry. I was. I kind of tune out sometimes. You say like a lot, a lot of words, and I'm like, oh, this is like when a woman talks, I guess for men. Like, your head just start. You're like, oh, that's.
Tim Pool
You know, I imagine that's how women feel when words are too big.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't think that's my issue. I used anthropomorphic. I've proven you.
John Rocker
You guys switch spots and then we'll go have a drink. You've done.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
It's the tone, I think women.
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah.
Leonardo Joanie
It's not what you did, it's the way you drove. Now, can you tell me what you're trying to say again?
Tim Pool
What were you saying? Why. Why haven't the Jews, like, done this to any other country?
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, that's easy. They don't, you know, they don't see them as a threat. What do you think they're. They're. They need to. They need Jews.
Tim Pool
Jews don't like white people do.
Leonardo Joanie
Do you think that Jews need to subvert Africa? They just have to. Have to let Africans loose.
Tim Pool
And why not? Why not? Why not Korea or Japan? Yeah.
Phillip Filler
Why not China?
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, yeah, I don't think they're a threat.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't think the average IQ in
Tim Pool
China is fairly high.
Leonardo Joanie
The 20. Yeah, I know, but they're not really good with creativity and masculinity, so it's not really a problem.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Do you think it's Jews? I think it might be banking industry, and some of them are Jewish.
Leonardo Joanie
Banking industry?
Tim Pool
Actually, the American banks are Irish.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
The Rothschild family was the biggest banking family. But then there's other banking families.
Tim Pool
Jewish. The people who run the banks.
Leonardo Joanie
United States are Irish, by the way.
Tim Pool
They're Irish, Ian.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
The CEOs, but not the owners.
Tim Pool
The CEOs, the people who run them.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Well, the owners are on the scenes and they can always veto everything to fire the CEO, but the people who
Tim Pool
are running the day to day. So you're saying that the Jews secretly control the Irish?
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Well, the bankers will hire whoever is
Tim Pool
good for the job.
Phillip Filler
Most of them are publicly owned.
Leonardo Joanie
Can we bring some racism in so we can get John back?
John Rocker
I want to participate.
Leonardo Joanie
Come on.
Tim Pool
You know, John, why don't you like brown people?
Phillip Filler
Let's talk about crime.
John Rocker
Can I. Can I just say something that will get me on a headline tomorrow? Whether it's ESPN, whether it's maybe 5. CNN for sure.
Tim Pool
Sure.
Leonardo Joanie
They don't watch.
Phillip Filler
I disavow.
John Rocker
Well, it'll. It'll what open we can of Tim to a whole new demographic. If I can get back in the conversation, then CNN watchers will hear about Tim Pool and he'll have let's his razor.
Leonardo Joanie
Let's hear it. Let's hear it.
John Rocker
We'll have all me to thank.
Tim Pool
Well, we get to this next story.
Phillip Filler
Some brown people.
John Rocker
Yeah. Some. Some Arabs.
Tim Pool
CNN Deletes post Downplaying ISIS inspired attempted Bombing in NYC Apologizes for breaching editorial state standard. They actually wrote this. It says two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday morning for what could have been a normal day, enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather. But in less than an hour their lives would drastically change as the pair would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti Muslim protest outside of Mayor Zoram Andani's home. Here's what we know so far. So aside from the fact that they framed this in the most psychotic way imaginable, they also framed it that makes it seem like they were anti Muslim extremists attacking Zoran Mamdan Donnie. So they deleted this. But tell me, why is the media so hell bent on doing everything they can to defend Islamic extremists?
John Rocker
That is an awesome question. I'm wondering that for. Since 9 11. I actually wrote a piece after 9 11.
Phillip Filler
I wrote a piece about this. It's on my Patreon. It's the Red Green Alliance. So it's the left and the Islamists kind of coming together. But the thing is the Islamists will cut the throat of the leftists. It was the same thing that happened in the 79 Revolution ocean. Like there was this, there was a leftist group that aligned with the Islamists and as soon as the Islamists took over, they started offing like 20,000 of the leftists and they had. They actually split and went to Iraq and they were fighting the Iranians from Iraq during the whole Iran Iraq war. Now they're in Albania and they don't have the same kind of power, but they're. You see it in, in Albania, the leftist group that was in Iran, man.
John Rocker
Yeah.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, I don't know about these people. I gotta get my. I gotta call my country, man.
Phillip Filler
You can, you can check, you can check out my Patreon. It's called the Red Green alliance is the piece I wrote. But you see it in the UK right now, right? The left is always covering for the Islamists that have, that have moved in. That's what they were. That's why they were hiding the Rotherham rape gangs and stuff like that. And it's not just Rotherham.
John Rocker
They're gonna be big buddies. They're, they're, they're throwing shade on they're, they're covering for them. And yet you turn their back, they'll stab you in broad daylight. Try it again.
Phillip Filler
Well, the left is. The left uses the same kind. The left accepts them because they make the anti colonialist argument. They make the argument that there's ra, there's racism and that's the motivation. And obviously the, the left has no defense against the Islamists. So once the left and Islamists take control and they, they basically get power over the right, then the Islamists take over and they just, you know, you want this one.
John Rocker
Fascinating to me and I'm trying to form this thought because it's kind of a complex thought for someone of mine intellect. The contradiction on the left. So we're definitely taking the side of Islamic extremists who also hate the gays. Who. We take their side. Who also hate other minorities. We take their side. Who also. Not the biggest fan of women. Misogynists. So whose side are you on? Are you on women's side? Are you on gay side?
Phillip Filler
First of all, they're against the right.
Tim Pool
That's versatile.
John Rocker
How are you on here?
Phillip Filler
The first enemy is the right.
John Rocker
Right.
Phillip Filler
And then once the right is defeated,
Leonardo Joanie
the first enemy is the straight white man.
Phillip Filler
Well, generally straight white men are on the right. Honestly, like generally, especially in the, the U.S. context, generally the, the right is mostly populated by straight white men. And so that's the, the, the bad guy. But once the Islamists and the, the left take over, then they, the Islamists cut the throat of the people on the left. They, you know.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, that's what happens in every communist.
Phillip Filler
They still wall.
John Rocker
But yeah, but, but don't get. It's such an affection for Islam of any category. Extremists. We're trying to not call these kids extremists. They're. We have teenagers warmed up, but they just happen to have homemade explosives with them.
Phillip Filler
Well, they were trained by. If I understand correctly, they were. They were reading ISIS websites. I'm not sure.
John Rocker
These folks you're taking, you're taking up for. They also hate women. They also hate gays. They also. You who you purportedly take up for war suit. Whose side are we on here? Make up your mind.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, I mean I think you would be on their side.
John Rocker
Their side.
Leonardo Joanie
They hate the gays. They don't like women.
John Rocker
I love women.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, you don't want them.
John Rocker
I can tolerate exactly as long as they're not in a car, driving a car that I'm riding in. I'm all for chicks.
Leonardo Joanie
What country were they from?
John Rocker
Syria, I believe it was serious.
Leonardo Joanie
I thought they were Afghanistan.
John Rocker
They're.
Phillip Filler
They're second generation Syrian.
Leonardo Joanie
Are they Afghanistan?
Phillip Filler
No, they're, they're for old. They're actually technically, you know, US citizens. Their parents are immigrants and they're first generation, which is a phenomenon that you see a lot.
Leonardo Joanie
See, this is why I have a problem with those going to war in the Middle east or any war. It seems like any war we go to we always get their. Their. Can I curse now? They're ready.
John Rocker
Not yet.
Tim Pool
Doing it like Ukraine.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, yeah. And she got her throat slit thanks to our.
John Rocker
You want to come up with.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
We don't.
Tim Pool
We actually don't get mass Ukraine refugees. I think people would want.
Leonardo Joanie
No, we don't. We don't. Which is because they're white probably. But we do get.
Tim Pool
But these are leftists doing it. These are communists.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, you don't want me to go down that road anymore.
Tim Pool
So I want you just going to say the Jews.
Leonardo Joanie
You know, I don't. I like to quote a great man who said Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of racial open borders, neoliberal, quasi Marxist policies. This might be from a little known anti Semite you guys might know as Charlie Kirk.
Tim Pool
No, that was Charlie Kirk.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, it was Charlie Kirk.
John Rocker
Cool.
Tim Pool
You know it's funny that like my,
Leonardo Joanie
my thing is it comes directly from them. Do you guys know who. Bhatia Ungar on the show.
John Rocker
Jesus, she's.
Leonardo Joanie
I can't even. It's hard time. Well, why don't you play a clip of hers? I'm sure you could find it where they're talking about who built the left, who built the liberals and that. She's so mad that they're turning on them now.
Tim Pool
Indeed. And that's why a bunch of these, these, these prominent Democrat donor Jews switch sides.
Leonardo Joanie
Well, you know, that's why they thought
Tim Pool
story of why they bought Tick Tock.
Leonardo Joanie
It's the old story of their golem turning on them because they built this anti white coalition. And then these browns looked at what was going on in the Middle east and they looked at the Jews and they go, well you look white enough to us. And these guys are browner. So this is another example of the people we're supposed to hate. So they just applied their simplistic thinking to what was going on in the Middle east.
Tim Pool
Religious groups. But, but like if people want to be critical of prominent Democrat Jewish donors in the state of Israel. And what. What they're doing based on ideology and religion always allowed. But there is a bunch of other prominent special interests doing the exact same thing.
Leonardo Joanie
I didn't. I never said it was only them. Ah, okay.
Tim Pool
There's. There's other groups.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, there's a lot of groups I don't like. You think I want to see?
Tim Pool
Like who else?
Leonardo Joanie
Ilan Omar and her little Somali coalition.
Tim Pool
Somalis.
Leonardo Joanie
The ones who can't even get put their tribal warfare past each other for two seconds to vote in an election. So they. That's why they didn't elect their mayor.
Tim Pool
What's your ethnic background?
Leonardo Joanie
I'm Albanian, bro.
Tim Pool
Do you think the US Would be better if it was a white nation? Like explicitly for the benefit of the white.
Leonardo Joanie
Let me ask you a question. When was America great?
Tim Pool
It was. It was always pretty great America. So the point is, at every. At every facet of America, there was greatness to be found and we've improved consistently. While fending off.
Leonardo Joanie
This sounds so gay to me, Tim.
Tim Pool
That's because you're maybe not smart enough to understand the history of the United States.
Leonardo Joanie
I must be so dumb to not understand.
Tim Pool
It's tough, right? Like it's. So we've debated a great deal all the different eras of America and what made it good and what made it. It bad. So I can tell. I can tell you one time it wasn't. Wasn't good was Woodrow Wilson. He was when it was bad because
Leonardo Joanie
he passed the Federal Reserve.
Tim Pool
So much more than that. But yes.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay, well, yeah, a lot worst that was bad. That was where he gave the Rothchilds control.
Tim Pool
My point is the bal decoration.
Phillip Filler
We've been.
Tim Pool
We've been the best country.
Leonardo Joanie
Belfor Decoration, right after that.
Tim Pool
Things are always improving. Things are always changing and there's always a challenge.
Leonardo Joanie
So you think this country is better when it's less white or more white?
Tim Pool
Well, probably on the simple surface, more white. But I do believe there's a greater nuance to the conversation in that Safeway
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Tim Pool
When we look back at the United States when it was substantially more white, you still had some kinds of issues. But I think in terms of if you want a high trust society, unfortunately, humans, whether you want to eschew, like if you want to believe that racism shouldn't exist, that's fine. But human, human beings are racist. And the, the reason this emerges is very, very simple. When I'm going to, I'm going to
Leonardo Joanie
push back against the word racist because of all of the connotations. It doesn't. Okay, I know what you're meaning.
Tim Pool
I'm not going to the left. Take the word because they put.
Leonardo Joanie
I know, I know what the meaning where you mean where you prefer one race over the other, which you're.
Tim Pool
No, I'm saying hatred, prejudice, animosity, discrimination,
Leonardo Joanie
all that in there of it.
Tim Pool
Okay, so it's as simple as you live in a village, you know who is safe and you know who is not safe and outsiders are threats to your, your society, to your village, to your town. If a person shows up that you don't recognize, regardless of what they look like, you're going to say, halt, who goes there? Because you fear that you could be raided by barbarians. This, this is the nature of humanity for thousands upon thousands of years. And unfortunately for humans, you can easily tell someone is not from your clan, tribe or family because they look dramatically different from you. If you're a white guy, if you're Eastern European European and another Eastern European guy is walking towards you, you're not necessarily going to know. And so they yell. But you still get conflict.
Leonardo Joanie
You obviously haven't been to the Balkans.
Tim Pool
This is my point.
Leonardo Joanie
You obviously, we could smell the other.
Tim Pool
You obviously still get the conflict. My point is this to, to like two Balkan states, you might have someone yell, who are you? Like a good example is Northern Ireland. Ireland. They're both Irish and they hate each other. They can, but it's not so easy to figure out now, what if the Northern Irish were all, were all black and you know, Ireland was all white. You'd easily recognize that person is very likely not. He's probably very likely from Northern Ireland, very likely opposing my tribe and my family. So this results in low trust. But I, I also think that there is, I think nature and nurture is probably both.
Leonardo Joanie
Both.
Tim Pool
So the people who claim the blank slate is stupid and the people who claim only nature, you're missing the big picture as well. But we do see, across all ethnic and racial groups, IQ differences regardless of circumstance. So South Korea, like by studies, has the second highest iq, you know, for,
Leonardo Joanie
for any racial plug for his people right now.
Tim Pool
Absolutely. That's why they think they're smarter than everybody. The North, North. The North Koreans are ethnically the same, but their IQs are a lot.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I hope you're like cousin dude.
Tim Pool
So the point is, nature and nurture both play a big role in this. And so anyway, simple point is when I go skiing, you know. You know, it's like, when you go skiing.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, I know.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Nobody steals your stuff. People put thousands.
Phillip Filler
Well, why is that?
John Rocker
The point is, same playing hockey. Right.
Tim Pool
When indeed there's a bunch of viral videos that have been going around where they're, they're, they're filming people. Like, isn't it wild how you can put like three grand worth of ski gear just on the ground and walk away? I'm going to tell you this. I had several hundred dollars in my pocket in my jacket and my phone, and I put it on a chair and I, I went skiing. And I came back and there was. I went skiing.
John Rocker
Why is that?
Leonardo Joanie
Cuz he wants everybody to know that he carries several hundred dollars of cash on him.
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, sometimes.
John Rocker
No, I was still there when you get back. I was just there when you get back.
Tim Pool
So I was skiing and it was 40 degrees and my coat got really hot.
John Rocker
No, I don't care why your coat's there. Why do you think your shit was there when you got back?
Tim Pool
High tr. Society, higher class, higher density of high trust.
John Rocker
Trust.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
That's what it's called.
Tim Pool
It's called high trust.
John Rocker
Whatever you want. Whatever you want.
Tim Pool
Well, it's a bunch of rich people. Rich guy doesn't need to steal my money from me.
John Rocker
I called something else white people. I didn't say it, I didn't say that. Never said that.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
When I was living on the street, I would steal.
John Rocker
I never had sex relations with that woman.
Tim Pool
Yeah, but look at him. I, I, of course, living in my
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
buddy's car, I'd see him, I saw a bike and I was like, I can get dinner with that later. And then when I had money, I would ne.
Tim Pool
I would protect that bike. There, there, there are white trash people when you had money, protect other people's property.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
When I don't. I see it as I leave my
Tim Pool
background, some white dude's going to steal it too. In my neighborhood in the south side of Chicago. But you go skiing, it's a bunch of Rich, rich upper class people. They. And if they're not necessarily rich, they're high trust people. They, they work, they make plans and they don't want to take your stuff.
John Rocker
That is true.
Tim Pool
Because I got to be honest, you can just steal the rentals.
John Rocker
Is.
Tim Pool
It's not, you know, if people really wanted to do something. However, there have been a bunch of videos that are actually funny where like there's one viral video where a black dude is walking around filming a ski resort, just laughing, being like, yo, what the.
John Rocker
What?
Tim Pool
This is crazy. Like, white people just. This is how you live. There's another video where a black guy goes to a gas station and I think Torrance, California, and all of the food is outside and the refrigerators are unlocked and like there's no one around. And if you want to buy it, you got to like grab it and bring it inside.
Leonardo Joanie
I saw this.
Tim Pool
You saw the video? He's like, what the. He's like, man, this is how you people live? Like, that's crazy. It's like, yeah, that's where.
John Rocker
Bars in the windows. Where's the bulletproof glass?
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where I grew up, the, the, the neighbor was divided by race. North of 47th, it was all black. South was mostly white with some Hispanic. Yeah, and the hot dog stand on 47th had bulletproof windows because they would just shoot at for no reason. But that was famous gang territory. That was Leclair Courts. So a lot of gang bangers believe
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
all the racism is like a mix up. A lot of it's because it's descendants of people that had been enslaved that didn't have nutrition for generations. So brains don't develop without nutrition. And then you. It's like it's not the skin color that makes people behave certain ways. It's like, what, what did your ancestors have to go through that makes you who you are?
Leonardo Joanie
Americans have a higher on average IQ than straight up Africans. So they're getting more nutrition than in Africa.
Tim Pool
Exactly. But nurture matters.
Leonardo Joanie
That's right, actually, because they have 15 European admixture into them.
John Rocker
This is, this is totally off subject,
Tim Pool
but again, North Korea and South Korea, nutrition does matter.
Leonardo Joanie
No, I think, I think nutrition has an effect, but to a certain extent. Sorry. Come on, John. Sorry. No, no, sorry, sorry. We gotta let.
John Rocker
No, sorry. I did not give this, this show a plot plug, but Survivor about 10 years ago and was literally wondering. We're hungry during the day, but I'm stuck today. I'm starving. I missed lunch. But you know when you're Going to eat again. It is a major brain f. When you're eating about 100 calories a day, you have no idea when you're going to eat again. And I mean your brain does not work. I was just, I was stuck on stupid for two weeks until I mercifully got butt off that damn show. And I'm just out there right now. No, a little bit more. I lost 20 pounds in 11 days. Brutal, dude. But my whole thought was there are civilizations that lived like this are surviving their Entire lives on 2 or 300 calories a day. How is that possible? And living in these God forsaken places with mosquitoes and you know, no tools and this, I mean three, 4,000 years ago, that was your life, dude. Yeah, so. So how did the human. And I can see the brain not developing with that little nutrition. Well, it's fish, they're hard to catch. They don't want to be caught.
Tim Pool
Well, so the high protein diet, high omega 3s fishing diets were a major contributor to.
John Rocker
Well, I get all that. But I mean to go from dog. It's not just the brain fog, it's the fatigue. It's just you don't want to get up and go, man, I got nothing here.
Tim Pool
But they were all, they were all basically in keto though too.
John Rocker
Yeah, used to 2,000 calories a day. They cut your ass down to 200. You're like Europeans learned how to. That was what. So the, the comments you made about smaller brains and not be able to. Yeah, I, I felt that for about two weeks going how the hell did people, you know, back in, in caveman days, how did you, you progressively get out of that and you know, get to where mankind is now because yeah,
Tim Pool
I think the principal issue with racism is like it would suck, suck, you know, to have an intelligent, well meaninged individual of insert any, any race be discriminated against simply because the way they look, to not be given an opportunity to be trusted or to live comfortably if they're a good person. And unfortunately for us leftists have turned that into Blake slatism and are now releasing criminals from prison and people are being victimized and we get a narco tyranny.
Leonardo Joanie
That group, there's only one group that actually experiences that today day on any level experiences. It's white men. White men are the ones who are kept out. Yeah, they're qualified. They're like you're saying intelligent, good person.
Tim Pool
Well, if history is any indication of what white men will do, this will be short lived.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, I mean waiting For I might transition.
Tim Pool
Yeah, you get. You get a generation of this weakness, and then you'll end up with a generation of people following Andrew Tate, building
Leonardo Joanie
the AI digital surveillance system in which, you know, they can just drone you to death. So it's going to be a little bit different.
Tim Pool
Well, they're gonna. They're gonna offer you the Matrix and people are gonna take it. They're gonna plug their brains in and go live in fantasy world because it's easier.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm gonna go live on a ranch, dude. I'm done. Just gonna milk, get some chickens. I'm gonna raise some anti Semitic cows. Like their cows are anti Semitic. Jews can't die, you know, digest lactose very often.
Tim Pool
So is that true?
John Rocker
What?
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah. Yeah, they have a high lactose intolerance as well.
John Rocker
You can't have poor.
Leonardo Joanie
Pretty much every group except Europeans shout out white people, what's up over there? He doesn't. He doesn't like Indians.
Tim Pool
Eat a lot of dairy.
Leonardo Joanie
We taught these. We're so stupid. Dude, the British did, you know, know that when, before the British went over there, there was only 300 million Indians. 300 million. Do you understand how good we could have had it?
John Rocker
300 million.
Leonardo Joanie
300 million. There's 1.2 billion of these. I would like them if they stayed in India. Okay, when you're coming over here and you're stinking up the place and you're taking all the tech jobs, and then I press 1 for English and I get, hello, Mom. Welcome to a quickie bar. I am upset.
Phillip Filler
You were upset about the AI, you know, that you're talking about in, in. In just a few years.
Tim Pool
Call me. I'm. I'm going to say that in a few years. You have to worry about that.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm never going to call you Tim, but if I were going to call you, I would say, this is a Jew and I'm sending you your check.
John Rocker
What. What is fun, though, is when. Hello, how are you doing? My name is Alex. They go, no, it's not.
Leonardo Joanie
It's not.
John Rocker
Fake name. What's your real name?
Phillip Filler
Guys, accents are going to go away when it comes to talking on the phone. They're going to go away, away. In a couple years, you're going to talk to robots and you won't even notice.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't believe this, because I think there is a huge climactic crisis that's coming. I'm not talking about global warming. It's going to be a. The shift of the polls and pretty much 85% of humanity is going to be dead. But. But it's going to hit in the next two years. In the next two years.
Phillip Filler
Okay, well, you'll. Like I said, in the next two years, you're going to have all of the customer service that you deal with when it comes to over the phone. You're going to be dealing with an AI and it's going to talk like a normal person.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't think so. I think the AI is being used to set up to control us. All the stuff that they're saying, that AI is going to make our life better. First of all, you have demons running our government who literally hate us.
Tim Pool
Good news for you.
Phillip Filler
The government is not producing AI.
Tim Pool
Yes, the government.
Leonardo Joanie
Yes, it is.
Phillip Filler
Government's not producing.
Tim Pool
Yes, it is the Northern Virginia instance. It's all CIA, NSA, etc.
Phillip Filler
But that they're not dealing with the. They're not making the AI that you people are using on the.
Tim Pool
On the.
Phillip Filler
Like.
Leonardo Joanie
On paper. On paper.
Tim Pool
I like, we have absolutely been over this. The, the, the. So it is a fact that the. That the government has been working on computer AI since the 70s.
Phillip Filler
Yes, for the gun, but that's for the government's use.
Tim Pool
Yes. So they. So they have an instance of AI that we. That's much more advanced than the public,
Phillip Filler
that the public doesn't have access to.
Tim Pool
If you're. The point is it's running the system behind the scenes.
Phillip Filler
But the point that I'm making is when you are going to be using. Using AI to call a customer service number, that's not going to be the government's AI. It's gonna be a private company that bought Amazon.
Tim Pool
AI hates Jews. Maybe I don't know himself. Mecca Hitler.
Phillip Filler
Well, that was.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah. Until he was.
Phillip Filler
That was funny.
Leonardo Joanie
But neutralized.
Tim Pool
But when you also look at like how social media crops up, most of
John Rocker
the people moved to Argentina.
Tim Pool
The people who are critical. Who are critical of Jews get substantially more play than people who are not.
Leonardo Joanie
That's not what I see.
Tim Pool
Like candace Owens gets 150,000 concurrent.
Leonardo Joanie
Candace Owens. You know, you really should bury the hatchet.
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no.
Leonardo Joanie
I think you guys could be Dodgson. You could.
Tim Pool
Tucker Carlson gets 5 million views on
Leonardo Joanie
his podcast was already popular before anything.
Tim Pool
And then. Okay, Ian Carroll.
Leonardo Joanie
Tucker. Tucker Carlson.
Tim Pool
Even kid.com has started post a Jew posting. And, and, and he's getting thousands of retweets.
Leonardo Joanie
Again. He already had a million subscribers.
Tim Pool
No, no, these people are getting more than they were before when. So, so again, the machine loves content. That hates Jews.
Leonardo Joanie
No, no, no, no. The machine likes conflict. But that's why. You will also see pro Israel posts getting.
Tim Pool
Why doesn't. Why doesn't YouTube ban this stuff?
Leonardo Joanie
It's a good question.
Tim Pool
Why? Why?
Leonardo Joanie
And I have a theory.
Tim Pool
Why is it propped up? I have a theory recommended.
Leonardo Joanie
I think they want to stir up this, of course, racial animation, racial animus to result in their, you know, Armageddon battle that they're trying to do. I think some lunatics,
John Rocker
they make more money.
Leonardo Joanie
What they say it sounds crazy that
Tim Pool
like the argument is a group of people hate themselves, like want people to go to war against them.
Leonardo Joanie
They believe that there needs to be this giant war in which all the nations turn against them and then their messiah is going to come in, crush those nations, and they're going to rule. So it would make sense if you believe that. Right, right. If you think you need to.
Tim Pool
Evangelicals.
Leonardo Joanie
Evangelicals believe this too.
Tim Pool
Right, right, right. So. So a lot of the Israel stuff has to do with people who want to. I forgot it was called. What's the ideology where they intentionally. There, there, there are people who believe that the dispensationalism. I don't know if that's what the. The name is.
Leonardo Joanie
Okay.
Tim Pool
But the idea is that it's not prophecy, it's instruction. You are not being told what will happen. You're being told what to do.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, I don't know this.
Tim Pool
So the argument that the Jews are trying to foment hatred against themselves, I
Leonardo Joanie
think it's just the Jews. I think it's a coalition.
Tim Pool
My point is there is an ideology where they don't look to the Bible as prophecy. They look to it as instruction. Meaning when it says like in the end of times this thing happened, they don't look at it as sooner or later it's going to happen. They look at it as this is what I'm supposed to make happen. You know what I mean?
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah. Which is what I think the Rothschilds were saying.
Tim Pool
The Red Heer, for instance. You're familiar with the Red Hat.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know where you got to sacrifice these people.
Tim Pool
It's got to be a perfect.
Leonardo Joanie
Yes.
Tim Pool
So there are people intentionally breeding them to try and make it happen. And they don't believe that the prophecy is predicting what will happen. They're. They believe they're being told to do these things to make the Messiah come.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Freaking hubris.
Leonardo Joanie
So, but, so don't you think that if, if you are doing that and you believe that all the nations have to turn against you you Safeway and
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Leonardo Joanie
Might be fomenting the the discourse online right now to be so heated.
Tim Pool
So you you think like that's a possibility? Do you think that's the case are
Leonardo Joanie
propping up Candace Owens I actually don't know. I I really don't know.
John Rocker
It could be.
Leonardo Joanie
It could be. I don't. Yeah, I don't know.
John Rocker
It could be so I'll be fine.
Tim Pool
We we've brought up how like on YouTube there's there, there are a lot of channels are getting a lot of traction and they're, they've, they just like they do post quite a bit.
John Rocker
A bit.
Tim Pool
And a lot of what they say explicitly breaks the rules on YouTube. Things that we get banned for we get strikes for.
Leonardo Joanie
Like what?
Tim Pool
Well like I mean half the stuff you've probably said to me that we're
Phillip Filler
get banned for it.
Leonardo Joanie
Half of what I said tonight. Well what, what about what I said is now, I mean the cursing.
Tim Pool
But what else is not against the rules? What what saying that you don't like Indians and that they should stay where they came from is against the rules?
Leonardo Joanie
Well I was using my comedic.
John Rocker
We're gonna have, we're gonna put put.
Tim Pool
Sure sure. So maybe maybe YouTube will will glaze over that.
Leonardo Joanie
But but I didn't say I don't like Indians. I said I would like it if
John Rocker
but like didn't don't soften it.
Tim Pool
There there's, there's, there's also community targeting rules. Like there's one that's called they're colloquial called brigading rules. Directing your audience towards a single person. Like it's a bannable offense.
Leonardo Joanie
I got a strike because I called Akash Singh a cuck.
Tim Pool
And so this is my point. There are, there are big channels with millions of followers that are are breaking the rules all the time and YouTube doesn't do anything it about about it. So the interesting thing is I've brought this up like why is that and then the argument I often hear is, well, the Jews are trying to foment hatred against themselves for this purpose, so.
Leonardo Joanie
But maybe YouTube's not owned by the Jews. That's possible too.
Tim Pool
So then YouTube hates the Jews.
Leonardo Joanie
It could, could be true. That could. That's totally possible.
Tim Pool
I honestly think that's more likely because it's a Silicon Valley leftist based thing and they're very anti Israel.
Leonardo Joanie
Totally possible.
Tim Pool
So they're like, we're gonna let these people say these things because we like it.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
It's like a blackrock vanguard state.
Leonardo Joanie
But then why would they, why would they let them also say things against like Indians and non whites? Because. Because the N word's back on YouTube. I don't know if you guys heard the N word's back on.
Phillip Filler
I heard it's taking it back.
Leonardo Joanie
It's back on YouTube, bro.
Tim Pool
Well, there's actually one of the things that I find interesting that we've talked
John Rocker
about is other folks too.
Tim Pool
Here's a question for you. Why is Nick Fuentes banned from YouTube?
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know why he's banned from YouTube, so.
Tim Pool
So Nick Fuentes is banned, but other prominent Jupost sisters are not banned?
Leonardo Joanie
He could be.
Phillip Filler
I legit don't understand why Nick's band. He's not that especially.
Leonardo Joanie
He's actually way less extreme now.
John Rocker
Yeah, because he learned his lesson.
Leonardo Joanie
No, no, it's because of the, the tide of people caught up and passed him. Became more extreme than him. I think. I think some people have become more extreme than him.
Phillip Filler
Yeah. I mean, Myron's more extreme than Nick.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, Myron's more extreme.
Tim Pool
So like on Instagram, Nick's mask, massive. He's got crazy videos. They have tens of millions of views.
Leonardo Joanie
But he's not allowed to have an account.
Tim Pool
He can't have a YouTube account?
Leonardo Joanie
No. Can he? Can he have an account on Instagram?
Tim Pool
I don't know. I don't think I would assume. No. So. Right, so the question is, look, why, why is he banned? And then, you know, there are other big YouTubers that are not banned.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't know, something isn't Alex. Is Alex Jones still banned on YouTube? He was banned for a long time.
Tim Pool
He's still banned.
Phillip Filler
That's nuts too. Yep.
Tim Pool
Because I think the people who are not banned are the. We, we call it the pressure release valve. They're the acceptable opposition. See, I think.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, I guess I'm controlled up, bro. I just found that.
Tim Pool
Well, it's not controlled. It's acceptable pressure release meaning. Yeah, if, if you Shut down the voice of a large group of people, they will riot, they will react. If you make them feel as though their voice is being heard, but you turn the volume down to 49%, they're slowly dying.
Leonardo Joanie
So that's what you think is to. Going. Going on.
Tim Pool
So there's.
Leonardo Joanie
So you do think the Jews control everything? No, I finally got it out of you.
Tim Pool
No, I think. I think that likely Leftists in Silicon Valley.
Leonardo Joanie
That's a joke.
Tim Pool
They hate Israel, they hate the Jews, they're anti Semitic, and so they prop up certain voices. But Nick Fuentes is a white supremacist. That's why.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, is he, though? Because he like Hitler? I mean, not Hitler.
Tim Pool
Well, no, he said racism was done.
Leonardo Joanie
Like, he liked Kanye, Jesse Jackson.
Tim Pool
What about.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Like, it's. The banking industry wants people to destroy each other so they can implement the slave state through AI, you know, spy tech, and then that's that they win.
Tim Pool
Is that so obvious? Is that when it comes to that
Phillip Filler
kind of argument, like, the banks make money by lending money. Like the banks make money by lending money. Why would they want to kill off, like, the population?
Tim Pool
So they don't have money to lend. Because they don't have any. Going to lend money.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Pretty soon you need electricity and the ability to move a payload.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, because. Because once you own all the resources and you can get robots, robots to do what you had humans do, you. You don't need money.
Tim Pool
But we're not there yet.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I think they're planning for it.
Leonardo Joanie
I think we're gonna get a polar shift.
Tim Pool
What do they call an axle? Axle tilt.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
We might repair the Earth's magnetic field.
Tim Pool
That's the real conspiracy. That's because you see all these wealthy individuals buying bunkers, and I don't think it's for nukes.
Leonardo Joanie
I think it's for that, and it's happened before. So.
Tim Pool
Yeah, so here's. Here's my theory on this one. This is. I love this subject. Ben Davidson, the space weather guy, talks about it quite a bit. And it was funny because when we first interviewed him, I know I said, tell us for everybody, but this context matters. I was like, this will be interesting. I'm sure he's gonna say a bunch of wacky stuff. And then he said a bunch of wacky stuff that I was like, I looked up, and it's all mainstream science. Like, for example, and this may sound, you know, naive of me, but he mentioned the Indonesian glaciers. I said, wait, glaciers in Indonesia? And he's like, yes. And then I looked it up. Yeah, tons of glaciers in Indonesia.
Leonardo Joanie
Why didn't you know about that?
Tim Pool
Because I am unlearned on the issues of climate science and it's never been my focus.
Leonardo Joanie
Think about reading more.
Tim Pool
Well, I don't make videos about climate change or poll.
Leonardo Joanie
Make videos about Ukraine either. I make videos about crime.
Tim Pool
I don't go on shows and talk about polls shifting.
Leonardo Joanie
I talk about whatever comes up in the shell that's on you for bringing that up.
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, my attitude would not be that I think. I think that glaciers in Indonesia are causing the change.
Leonardo Joanie
I would say I don't.
Tim Pool
You don't know.
Leonardo Joanie
Your first attitude was, these can't exist. I never heard about this. And you had to.
Tim Pool
So what did I do?
John Rocker
Indeed.
Tim Pool
I looked it up and said, wow.
Leonardo Joanie
What do you want me to do?
Tim Pool
Anyway, the point is this. Here's my theory.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm not gonna be an expert in everything.
Tim Pool
I got a theory for you. You're gonna like this one. So the reason why climate change such a big narrative, again, this is hypothetical. For fun, I started thinking about what would happen if the poles actually shifted and the Earth tilted the way Ben has described. Described. What would you do as the government if you knew this was going to happen in 15 or 20 years? Okay, well, you can't tell anybody, right? They'd freak out.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, because they'll just stop working.
Tim Pool
Exactly. And then your economy is done. But what do you need?
John Rocker
Get Elon a floss to Mars.
Tim Pool
That's one thing. Indeed, we're not going one of the ideas. Here's the other idea.
John Rocker
That's right.
Tim Pool
So have you guys watched Landman? There's a great scene in Landman where Billy Bob drives out this young lawyer to a field where she sees wind turbines and she says, green energy encroaching on your turf. And he goes, not green alternative. We build wind turbines to provide energy to our oil pumps where we can't get transmission lines. They're not doing this because they want to save the environment. They're doing it to pump more oil. I thought, I started thinking about that if we were going to get a Carrington event that fried our electrical grid, a solar storm, or an actual axle ship shift, you would want to have ready to go alternate forms of energy that could be easily deployed. So you'd want a reserve of petroleum for your machinery, but you would need to produce energy that could run oil machines with no grid. So you would start telling people, build solar panels, build wind turbines, because after the disaster, we're going to deploy these in remote Areas to generate the energy to get the oil out so we can start rebuilding society. Society. So you start thinking about everything that's been going on over the past 20 years. And you could easily take the red thread and connect it all to. They believe the power. Powerful elites and millionaires and billionaires believe there's going to be a massive disaster coming up in the next 10, 20 years, which could be nuclear war, economic collapse, or a natural disaster for which they are preparing to deploy a reconstruction system for human civilization.
Leonardo Joanie
But. But wouldn't those. Those wind turbines and solar panels get destroyed in.
Tim Pool
No, because they get stored in. In facilities that can be protected.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, and they're underground tunnels or the
Tim Pool
components aren't yet connected or if. If there's.
Leonardo Joanie
That's what Katherine Austin Fitz thinks.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Oh, she's where?
Tim Pool
It's indeed the dunks. The deep underground military bases. And those are. I don't know if. So, you know, what she's claimed is there's trillions of dollars worth of deep underground military bases. We don't know if that's true, but we do know they have deep underground military bases. There's the handful that we know about, like Raven Rock and Mount Weather, and then there's, I think, Cheyenne Mountain. Is that the other one? There's one in Greenland, and there's a bunch that we abandoned. There's one that we abandoned in, like, the Northeast. But it is known and high, and highly speculated beyond this that there are many, many more. Whether what she claims is true about the trillions of dollars, I would actually suspect is probably true.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
You know about that underground seed vault they got?
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Spard. Yeah, that's it.
Leonardo Joanie
Is it? Where is it? Is it Antarctica or something?
Tim Pool
Spard.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I thought it was up north. It could be down south.
Tim Pool
It's called Spard. Well, Noard, I can't.
Leonardo Joanie
I can't blame the Jews for this. So I'm not interested.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I think we can repair the magnetic field. People seem to have given up, and they think just prepare for the end.
John Rocker
But I think if we can run shift. We're all dead as fried chicken.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Exactly.
John Rocker
It's like all these plans you're making, smart guy, with your turbines and your fancy.
Tim Pool
No, that's not true for the people like Raven. Rock's gonna be fine.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, they've survived.
John Rocker
The poles are shifting because the entire Earth's crust has turned into lava, basically.
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no. The. So we are. So we've. We've actually seen. I think it's called an excursion. The North Pole has moved it is confirmed to have moved now it's over Siberia. Now mainstream, acceptable corporate media tells you, you, they don't think anything beyond that will happen. And maybe that's true.
Leonardo Joanie
They're lying. They always lie.
Tim Pool
Other people who are tracking this, like Ben for instance, say, well, this does follow the patterns of a pole shift. The weakening the magnetic, the magnetosphere. And a great example of more evidence, actually not an example, but literally more evidence, is the Southern atmospheric anomaly, which is there is an area the size of Europe over Brazil into the Atlantic that is a dent in the magnetosphere that is not protecting the Earth the way it used to. And it's getting bigger. So they say, don't worry, if you're on the surface, you're fine. You won't get blasted by radiation. But planes, satellites and other, you know, aerial equipment is being blasted by radiation at a much higher degree. I actually think this is over Brazil. Yeah, Brazil in the Atlantic. I actually think, I talked with Ben about this. It's very interesting stuff. We had major power outages in Puerto Rico and Europe following solar storms. And I don't want to put words in his mouth so he can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe what he was saying was it's not that these solar storms are anything special, it's that the magnetosphere is weakening. So what should be, we are at a solar maximum. So we are seeing increased activity. But it is still typical. However, with a weakened magnetosphere, solar radiation is blasting the planet more and it's disrupting our cell phones, our Internet, our electrical grid. And we keep seeing these things popping up, we with, when you include the North Pole shifting over Siberia, there are people who, I believe it's fair to say, you know, they think that the shift may happen very soon, in the next 5, 10, 15 years. However, mainstream science says no, no, this is, this is what really gets me on the subject. We are beyond the average amount of years for a pole shift. Fact, it's several hundred thousand years and it usually happens around every 500,000 years, something like this. And we are past that point. But don't worry, it's not going to, to happen. It's like, okay, well, so we're due.
Leonardo Joanie
I think this is the way that God plans on dealing with the overpopulation of non whites in the world.
John Rocker
I, I, I think, I think I
Leonardo Joanie
had to bring him back in.
John Rocker
I think homosexuality is why it's going to happen.
Leonardo Joanie
It's because of the gay homosexuality.
Tim Pool
We're gonna, we're gonna go do sin,
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
distracts people so they can't magnetically align.
Tim Pool
It's the Great Flood.
Leonardo Joanie
That's a great.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Leonardo Joanie
Point. You made a great point.
John Rocker
Because you know what? When I'm sitting Ian, I don't think about any. I don't think about any of it.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah. No.
John Rocker
I'm in strip club. Am I thinking about this? Hell no. Thinking about this.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
That's interesting.
John Rocker
About my next we're going to go
Tim Pool
to your Rumble rants and super chat. So smash the like button, share the show and all that good stuff. Don't forget the uncensored I guess portion of the show is coming up at 10pm over@rumble.com timcast irl. But let's grab what you guys got, I guess. Senor Butthole says in 2024, Trump said he wanted to bomb Iran. He said if they get. He would not allow them to get nukes.
John Rocker
Yep.
Tim Pool
I mean, let's see. Igor Tigor says. You're such a little dweeb, Tim. Thank you for your money. Ian was giving vital context as to why the current situation is what it is. The west has been meddling in Iran's internal affairs since at least the 50s. I understand that, but going into the ancient history of the, of the. The empire of the Persians was not relevant.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Oh yeah.
Tim Pool
But I was a simple conversation.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
They were trying eight seconds away from being completed. So he could probably tell that guy listening.
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's just that I think he derails the conversation for too long.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
No, it's like, why do Iranians hate us? Because we stole their oil and then we got their president overthrown in the 50s and installed the king to overrule them.
Tim Pool
That's why they hate us. Yeah, but that's, that's, that's a, that's a minimum portion of what's actually going on right now. Why do the Iranians say this? For our freedoms. It's like saying the Iranian people are mad at us because of stuff that happened 70 years ago. No, they're mad as what's going on right now.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
That's true too.
Tim Pool
That's the point I'm making. All right, here we go. Cabbage roll says Iran yearly nuclear energy output is half that of Romania. Iran has 60. Uranium. Uranium. Romania has. Uses 0.7. It is to believe Iran wants nuclear energy. Iran only wants nuclear weapons. They do want both. But they do want nuclear weapons. Indeed.
John Rocker
There should be a. Like a.
Tim Pool
All right, let's see. Same old man says Joanie Israel evil me. You sound like a liberal white woman. Indeed.
Phillip Filler
They just called you A lib?
Leonardo Joanie
No, they were called you a lib. Oh, well, what do you want me to say? I can't get away from my roots.
Tim Pool
So Hitler was a vegetarian. Says criticism of Erica's leather pants is dumb. AI f should she rid herself of all the clothes that she owned before Charlie died? First wear nothing but sackcloth. What if he bought her those pants?
Leonardo Joanie
Go look at the way Italian women mourn and then come back to me and talk to me about these leather pants. Okay.
John Rocker
Is she Italian?
Leonardo Joanie
No, but it doesn't matter. It's relevant to the point.
Tim Pool
Timothy Robinson said, this is the last straw for me. Repeal the 19th and then end universal suffrage for all Americans.
Phillip Filler
I mean, look, man, ending universal suffrage is right up my alley.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm fine with that.
John Rocker
As long as gays not Q test.
Leonardo Joanie
That'll take care of you too, Tim.
Tim Pool
Let's d. Sage says I'm married and I have a child in Tim cast tradition. Repeal the 19th. Come on. Oh, man. People really don't like you.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Disagreeing with someone doesn't mean you don't shut them down.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm sorry you have a bunch of pro Israel bots who watch your shows.
Tim Pool
To be to be fair, I was
Phillip Filler
watching the chat and so it's the people that have paid money to say Jews, bankers, banker.
Tim Pool
All right, give it to me. Ant man says, today my son turned nine. Can he get a shout out? His name is Lincoln. Shout out Lincoln.
Leonardo Joanie
Happy birthday, Lincoln. They don't want to hear from me,
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
so, no, he probably does after that fire conversation.
Leonardo Joanie
What's up?
Tim Pool
Isaac says, can you believe this Twat waffle has the right to vote.
John Rocker
Twat waffle.
Tim Pool
I read the one where the guy called me a dweeb too. So I'm not just back to back.
Leonardo Joanie
Tim, why don't you come on my show? Let's see how they feel about you. All 20 people that watch my show.
Tim Pool
Why don't you come on that I'll do it and I'll wear a yamaka.
Leonardo Joanie
You already got one on, dude.
Tim Pool
It's hidden.
Leonardo Joanie
All the yarmuls are getting bigger. I don't know if you guys have seen this, man. Every time I Every time bigger.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
It's like changing the frequency of your
Phillip Filler
key of I don't know.
Tim Pool
Have you seen Ben's eyebrows?
Leonardo Joanie
I want to see who what these bitches have to say. Let's.
Tim Pool
I can't read some of these.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
That is so awesome.
Tim Pool
We'll have to wait till the uncensored portion to read some of these.
John Rocker
Are we there?
Tim Pool
Yesterday I was like, man, these people really don't like it. Some of these things are saying, like,
Leonardo Joanie
whoa, oh, my God, listen, I grew up in an Albanian household. There's nothing you could say to me that's worse than what my dad already says, so let's go.
Tim Pool
Not. Robbie says, explain why West Virginia is one of the poorest states yet 16th lowest for violent crime crime and 6 lowest for property crime. And I must. I must edit that per capita meaning, despite the fact it has a low population, it has extremely low crime rates. Indeed.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
You could explain that by the accelerating momentum of packing people together, that it gets worse faster the more people you stuff closer.
Tim Pool
High trust versus low trust. Society and race is in fact a component of a component of that, much to the chagrin of leftists who want to believe in the blank slate. But it's a trust being the most important one word. And then you can ask yourself why it is that Somalia is in a civil war in Sudan as well.
John Rocker
Holy Coke.
Tim Pool
All right, what do we got here? JDAV says dispensationalism is the correct way of interpreting scripture. Biblical literalism.
John Rocker
Ah, that's the word you were looking for.
Tim Pool
And then he goes on to say, tim, invite her more often. That is all.
John Rocker
There you go. Fan up there.
Tim Pool
You got a fan.
Leonardo Joanie
That's all right. Dispensational. He thinks dispensationalism is the right way to interpret the Bible. That's not a fan. I need.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I think he said.
Tim Pool
I think he's saying the word means literally interpreting the Bible.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, is he defining what? Dispensationalism. I thought he's saying the act of dispensationalism.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I think it was what Tim mentioned. Christian theological framework for interpreting the Christian Bible, which maintains the history is divided into multiple ages called dispensations.
Tim Pool
So, yeah, it's not a. It's not about trying to make it happen. It's a. He's saying the word you use.
Leonardo Joanie
I gotcha. I gotcha. I gotcha. I know. I didn't. I. I didn't know what you were talking about. I thought you were talking dispensationalism. When you. Because you said there's a theory and then you.
Tim Pool
There's like an ideology of we must make.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, it was before you described what you were talking about. I thought you were talking about dispensation.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
It says dispensationalism is different than traditional reformed view of reading the Bible. So maybe there's something to that.
Leonardo Joanie
Let's see.
Tim Pool
Manhattan man says, Lordy Lordy, look who just turned 40. Indeed I did. It's all over for me.
John Rocker
Congratulations.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
I like how you said it's only down here.
John Rocker
51 year old ass, 51 braces my glasses.
Tim Pool
Mr. Rocker you played with arguably the one of the greatest pitching trio in baseball history. How did you feel entering a game to close out a win for them? Also how good truly was Andrew Jones defense?
John Rocker
The way I felt coming in after Tommy or Greg or John was don't fuck it up in front of Bobby Cox. Nonetheless and AJ I play with, I play with Andrew starting in rookie ball as a 19 year old kid. Andrew was 16. Yeah, he was 16. Andrew's a professional baseball player at the age of 16. Play with him in rookie ball a ball and he left us in the dust. Andrew Jones by himself cost the Atlanta Brace pitting staff about a half a run a year. Our eras were about a half a run better a year because of Andrew Jones coming in like third day in a row Sunday day game. You're hanging first. First guy fucking one run lead. Yeah. You're like fuck the hell he come from diving. Catch one out instead of a doubling the gap, running on second, nobody out. Maybe as soon as the ball's off the bat you're like son of a turn around like holy. He caught that.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
What position does he play or did he?
John Rocker
Centerfield. Just got put in the whole thing about a month ago.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Would you pitch in a way that you would want the ball to go to him?
John Rocker
No, no, but he, he sir, he's sure, sure should cover a lot of errors. He covered a lot of errors up. Yeah, he was amazing out there and then saw that. So just one step Abel. I mean there's college guys in able. He was 7 years old, should have been a junior in high school. Hit 38 bombs at able. Should have been a junior in high school just raking eight ball pitching. He was amazing man. Absolutely amazing to watch. Yeah. That's all I got to say about that.
Tim Pool
Should I says the Barbary wars wasn't with the Middle east. It was with North African nations. So no, America did not have wars in the Middle east prior to the creation of Israel. I suppose the, the point was wars with Islamic nations.
Leonardo Joanie
Well that's not what I was talking about.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
So mean World War I we were at war with the Ottomans. The Ottomans, you know we had. Then we built Israel basically with the Balfour Declaration. Sykes Pico agreement. We set it up in the Palestine action.
Phillip Filler
You mean the British did. It was.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Yeah, yeah. You know I'm sure will Woodrow Wilson.
Leonardo Joanie
We still don't know why we got into World War I. We understand the official story, but we still don't actually know why.
Phillip Filler
Why nobody knows what. How we're like World War I. Every. Every.
Leonardo Joanie
Nobody wants to hear it.
Tim Pool
I know
Phillip Filler
World War I didn't make any sense. If you want.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
You think that was like a conspiracy consolidation of power 100%.
Leonardo Joanie
But there wasn't even war one. After we find the founding of the Federal Reserve, that gets. Our currency gets privatized, something that our government was trying to fight off since.
Tim Pool
Oh, the Barbary wars were in the Middle East. So you were wrong. Chatter largely stemming from North African countries, but it did extend into the Middle east and the second Barbary War did as well.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
The bar bars. Yeah, they're the tartars. That means foreigner in Latin, I think.
Tim Pool
So to be fair, though, to be fair, we'll split the baby on this one because it wasn't that we were at war with Middle Eastern countries, but the war extended into the Middle east, but it was. Was rooted in countries from North Africa, so it wasn't a war fought in the Middle. Like, we didn't go to Iraq like we did now. So, you know, we'll put the baby on that one. And then it started in 1953. I'm sorry, 1949, when we started going to the Middle East.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
Yeah, but we were in Syria. I mean, the. The Allied forces, the.
Leonardo Joanie
I mean, when we. We helped them win the Six Day War, and then they repaid us by bombing the USS Liberty. That was fun.
Tim Pool
I met before world.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, I'm not talking about you. I'm sorry. That was to tip. Sorry.
Tim Pool
You see, you watch too much fake news.
Leonardo Joanie
The USS Liberty is fake news.
Tim Pool
No, no, the fake news is the fake clip someone made where we had an argument where I told Ian he couldn't talk about the use of liberty when we actually talked about it on the show.
Leonardo Joanie
Oh, no, I had. I had no idea that that was even a clip of yours.
Tim Pool
Oh, then why'd you bring it up?
Leonardo Joanie
Because you brought up when we went to war in 1949.
Tim Pool
Oh, I just. I just read that.
Leonardo Joanie
Yeah, sorry, I was.
Tim Pool
There's a clip that Jew posters made where they edited it to make it seem like I was telling Ian he couldn't talk about the USS Liberty.
Leonardo Joanie
No, I didn't. I didn't see that. I had no idea that was a thing. Thing.
Tim Pool
Because people just like, the Internet is fake and this is what they do
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
basically were like, you know, my Favorite. Don't say something that's not true right now, because this is a sensitive topic.
Tim Pool
I was like, okay, well, well, what I was saying was false flags are utilized by all sides and the people who support the war are going to claim it's true, and the people who oppose the war going to claim it's not true. So that's. That. That's psyops for you. You know what I mean? When it comes to USS Liberty, the pro Israel side is going to say fake news and the anti Israel side is going to say, no, it's true. And then anybody who's actually trying to parse through history to figure out what's going on, you're going to get conflicting histories. So it's just like, I'm ambivalent. How about we just stop funding Israel?
Leonardo Joanie
Well, I'm not ambivalent about that because that was a time when we actually went to help them and the repayment was to attack our own services.
Tim Pool
Why did they do it?
Leonardo Joanie
Because, well, I know they say that they mistook it or whatever, but from my understanding from the guys who survived, I forgot his name because I follow his account was they were collecting intel down there and they happened to collect some intel that Israel was planning on launching an attack against Egypt or something. They, they were trying to get us involved in the Egyptian war. We picked up this intel they didn't want us to have, and they decided that they were going to blow it. They were just going to destroy the ships to get rid of this, which is not an uncommon action of theirs because they did this with the King David bombing where they dressed up as Arabs, pretend to be Arab Arabs, and they went in and blew up this hotel because the British had been spying and they found information connecting the Jewish Agency for Palestine to a terrorist group. And they didn't want them to have those documents.
Tim Pool
So, you know, like, so that.
Leonardo Joanie
But my, my point is, if we're going to help someone, like, look, America helped a lot of countries. America helped the Albanians in Kosovo. The Albanians never returned that favor. Wouldn't even dream of returning that favor by ever attacking anything American. Like, it's to the point that Albanians, like, name their kids George Bush. Like, they'll be like, this is George Bush Sawyer. Because of their.
John Rocker
If I ever told that kid.
Tim Pool
My principal complaint about what I call Israel Derangement Syndrome is the lack of curiosity on any of the other foreign, foreign affairs and special interest projects and, like, things that are going on. So, you know, my view is, like,
Leonardo Joanie
always, like, I think people will Will, it's getting. Because it gets a predominant focus in our media, it's going to get a lot of people's attention more so than other things, especially when you're looking at the last 30 years. I understand we went to war in Ukraine, and you want to argue who's involved in that, fine. But really, most of our interventionist wars for at least the last 30 to 40 years have been in the Middle East. So that's going to concern people.
Tim Pool
That's going to be their number one concern. If you trace the history back, there's a reason for that outside of Israel. And then if you look at other areas where we've been dominant, like we
Leonardo Joanie
went after the founding of Israel, like
Tim Pool
China hasn't moved in. Well. Right. Which is still, there's. There's two worldviews.
Leonardo Joanie
And I don't know why we're not doing more against China, who's actually messing everything up with these fishing vessels, where they're going in there.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Leonardo Joanie
Iran.
Tim Pool
And Iran is about China and Russia.
Leonardo Joanie
I get it. But, you know, maybe it would have been a better idea to have a different kind, a different outlet instead of setting up those three to be allies. Because China as. Which is asshole.
Tim Pool
Which is Right. Which is why Trump is cutting sanctions on Russia and negotiating with Putin. And they're mad about it because he says he wants to bring Russia into the fold.
Leonardo Joanie
I, I get all that, but what you're saying, oh, people have Israel derangement syndrome. I'm like, do our media has Israel deranged syndrome?
Tim Pool
Indeed. I agree. Like, when every New York mayor was like, I'd go to Israel, it's just
Leonardo Joanie
like, there's a reason that people are going to be fanatical about that. The same way people are fanatical about school shootings, when less die from school shootings than car accidents. But you don't have women out there screaming about how we got to take everybody's cars away.
Tim Pool
I completely agree with everything you just said.
Leonardo Joanie
So I think it's like, yeah, they're being emotionally manipulated. And this is like a primary focus of. For American politics, which is why people are going to be focusing on.
Tim Pool
One of my favorite things was when, when Congress finally got together to ban TikTok, it was explicitly because anti Israel content was dominant on the platform. And then you get people being like, two pool admitted it and it's like. Or we just tell you the truth that Trump. Trump wanted. The Republicans wanted to ban TikTok because it was pro Democrat. And then once the code flipped and it was easily trackable that they were promoting an anti Israel campaign content. The Democrats immediately were like, we have to get control of this. We can't.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't care about Tik Tok. I get no traction on Tik Tok. You know what I think Tik Tok is building nuclear weapons. So bomb Tik Tok. I do not care.
Tim Pool
You know why you're not getting traction on Tik Tok?
Leonardo Joanie
No, no. This is before anything.
Tim Pool
Oh, okay. I was going to say because you know who bought it.
Phillip Filler
Right.
Leonardo Joanie
That has nothing to do with that. I was never getting traction on TikTok. I had a racial jokes that. We're not getting traction on Tik Tok. So I don't give a crap about TikTok. Tik Tok. What I care about is that a foreign government is controlling any of our social. Any of our media. Well, I cared when China controlled it. I did. I was anti that because I'm like, oh, they're turning everybody into a dancing.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Fully gay ones.
Leonardo Joanie
But. But is it better having Israel do it?
Tim Pool
Yes. No, because now they're going to. They're going to. What do we call it? We're going small room. The, the, like the gay stuff. Small room ban.
Leonardo Joanie
It's called small room.
Tim Pool
Small room ban is when you, you allow him. The viewership is maintained but isolated from new audiences.
Leonardo Joanie
From the gay stuff?
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Leonardo Joanie
Like. What are you talking about? The gay stuff.
Tim Pool
So like Dylan Mulvaney. So the like Israel's like so pro gay.
Leonardo Joanie
What are you talking about?
Tim Pool
No, the new, the new strategy. The new strategy with the whole nation's gay. Sure. The new strategy with Tick Tock is to downplay weird woke gender stuff.
Leonardo Joanie
I'm doing comedy right now. Okay. It's female comedy, so it's not hitting that hard.
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
You know when you said it's controlled by an external government. I continuously think about the economic fold, the. The banking industry. That's not a nation that has so much power.
Leonardo Joanie
100%. 100%. And that's. This is why when Covid happened, you had every freaking country in the world almost falling into lockstep. And anybody who did, didn't, any leader of any nation who didn't was assassinated.
Tim Pool
How.
Leonardo Joanie
How can it be that you have the whole world that. That supposedly China, who's our enemies, doing the exact same thing. Oh, we're all going to lock down. That means that we're under a centralized control that's almost complete.
Tim Pool
Oh yeah, I think it's almost complete. I think it's AI.
Leonardo Joanie
I don't think it's AI. I think. I think there's somebody behind the AI. Somebody's programming the AI.
Tim Pool
We're going to go to the uncensored portion of this show, I guess. So go to rumble.com timcast IRL and it's gonna be a lot of fun. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Smash the like button. All the good stuff. But Leonardo, do you want sh anything
Leonardo Joanie
out for this portion of the show? I'm gonna reign it in subversive. You can follow me at Leonarda is fun E. And all you haters, you just get in the comments. Let's. Let's go. I live for war. I mean, not the Iranian gives the Jews especially. Well, hold on. Don't put words into my mouth. It's gonna make me sound like a genocidal maniac. And they don't really like those people.
Tim Pool
You want to shine anything out, brother?
John Rocker
All right. Speaking of Rumble, just from my own show on Rumble called On the Rocks. Every Wednesday and Saturday for now. Saturday for sure. We're moving Wednesday's, Wednesday's time frame around. Could be another day here shortly. But yeah, brand new show. Our fifth show drops tomorrow on the Rocks. Funny as it's the only platform I can roll. Really can really, really, really, really be on these days. Totally uncensored, they say. Uncensored. They can't kick me off. Sound like a challenge to me. Check it out. Called on the Rocks Wednesday and Saturday.
Tim Pool
Follow me at Ian Crossland all across
Unidentified Tech/Science Expert
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Phillip Filler
I am Filler remains on Twix if you want to read about the Red Green Alliance. I wrote about that today on my Patreon. It's patreon.com Phillip remains. The band is all that remains. We're going on tour this spring. You check it. Check us out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. We start in April on the 29th in Albany.
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Date: March 11, 2026
Guests: John Rocker & Leonarda (Leonardo) Jonie
Host: Tim Pool
This episode of Timcast IRL centers on American opposition to the ongoing Iran war, exploring public sentiment, media manipulation, foreign policy, and social tensions around U.S. support for Israel and Ukraine. The conversation is uncensored, at times contentious, and brings in topics like government overreach, tech censorship, and the shifting narrative within both mainstream and alternative media. Tim Pool is joined by comedian Leonarda Jonie and former MLB pitcher John Rocker, both known for their controversial takes.
Timestamps:
Intro to Iran war controversy: [01:23-07:49]
Current polling and Joe Rogan’s viral comments: [07:49-09:29]
Americans feel betrayed by escalation of war in Iran.
Discussion of Lindsey Graham’s controversial video pledging unwavering support for Israel and dismissing “isolationists,” equating them with anti-Semites:
Notable Quote:
Insight:
Timestamps:
Breakdown of oil and geopolitical interests: [14:08-16:16]
Deeper dive into petrodollar system and historical context: [16:18-20:44]
Tim offers a concise explanation of U.S.–Iran tensions, emphasizing the control of oil through the Strait of Hormuz and the petrodollar system:
Guests inject historical references, from the British and CIA in the early 20th century to the Shah’s regime and modern nuclear concerns.
Notable Quote:
Timestamps:
Israel’s role in U.S. military and politics: [22:40-24:20]
U.S. government funding and pro-Israel political influence: [23:02-24:20]
Debate arises on whether Israel is a military base for U.S. interests or vice versa, and how much influence Israeli interests exert on American foreign policy and law.
Leonarda Jonie argues U.S. intervention in the Middle East largely serves Israeli security, while Tim counters that global strategic interests—especially energy and the petrodollar—are primary.
Notable Exchange:
Leonarda Jonie: "So your position is that Israel is working for us in the Middle East."
Tim Pool: "Israel is 100% working for us." [23:02]
Both agree U.S. aid to Israel is profoundly entrenched in law and politics, with debate over the justification.
Timestamps:
Laws against boycotting Israel vs. other countries: [44:01-51:23]
Discussion of free speech limitations and cultural impacts: [46:34-52:17]
Multiple states have anti-BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) laws, limiting contractors' ability to protest or boycott Israel.
Disagreement on whether similar laws exist targeting China or other countries:
Eventually, Tim and the tech/science expert clarify: anti-BDS laws are Israel-specific, with few, if any, comparable for other countries.
Key Insight:
Timestamps:
Ukraine war background and U.S. funding: [24:40-32:57]
Racial/ethnic dynamics, high-trust societies, and crime: [65:03-88:39]
Discussion of the U.S.'s rationale for extensive support to Ukraine and comparison to Israel.
Guests dissect why racial and ethnic differences impact "high trust" in societies, referencing both personal anecdotes and social science.
Memorable Exchange:
Timestamps:
The left’s alliance with Islamic extremists: [72:36-75:14]
Repeated theme: mainstream media and left-leaning activists are described as defending Islamic extremism because they share an enemy in the Western right, especially straight white men.
Notable Quote:
Timestamps:
Theories about AI, social engineering, the pole shift, and global elites: [91:31-106:10]
Discussion veers into theories that elites are preparing for a civilization-ending disaster, possibly a polar shift, via energy strategies and underground bunkers.
AI is seen as a next-level tool for centralized control.
Notable Quote:
This episode provides a robust (and sometimes incendiary) look at why Americans are so divided on perpetual war, especially when it comes to Iran and Israel. The conversation calls out media double standards, challenges oversimplified narratives, and underscores the real-world consequences of state policy on American freedoms. The tone is unvarnished and frequently comedic, but rooted in a sharp (if sometimes controversial) interrogation of current events.
For a deeper dive, see these key segments: