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Alex Jones
Oh boy.
Tim Pool
The great. Who are you? What do you do?
Alex Jones
I was thinking about Joe Rogan's vagina right now.
Tim Pool
That's a weird way to introduce yourself, Alex.
Alex Jones
Well, Joe's like, I love Joe, but like, oh my God, we better not have an event. The terrorists might get us. We just give up and go away. We can't ever have a meeting because the Iranians might stick their ding dong and us. I think Joe's afraid of the Iranian ding dong.
Tim Pool
You're. You're a Joe Rogan commentator. Professional. He's.
Alex Jones
I like Joe. I mean, a little bit, you know, here. I just, I'm surprised by Joe saying that, like, oh, let's have a USC event. The Iranians might get us. I mean, I'm against the war, let's be clear, but let's keep the buses and the trains and, you know, the airplanes on time. Let's not fucking, oh, the Iranians might get it.
Tim Pool
So he's already swearing.
Alex Jones
I'm already swearing. Gotta follow every little AI rule. No, no, here's you. Let's all just hide Joe Rogan's vagina and then we'll all be safe.
Ian Cross
Jesus.
Tim Pool
Good to have you, Alex.
Alex Jones
Giant Joe Rogan vagina, Lucas. And we all just fly up into it and we're all safe.
Ian Cross
Safe. And Jo, thanks.
Tim Pool
Thanks for coming.
Alex Jones
Luke.
Luke Rudkowski
What an introduction.
Tim Pool
You heard.
Alex Jones
Daming like safe. Under her black wings. I'm saving Joe Rogan's big ass vagina.
Tim Pool
Well, there you go. Y. Luke's here.
Luke Rudkowski
There's that.
Tim Pool
Yes.
Luke Rudkowski
I don't know how you have that tonight. Good. Good to be here with some old friends.
Alex Jones
I declare war on Joe Rogan. God has ordered me. I love Joe. It's Joe.
Ian Cross
He's going to show up at your house.
Tim Pool
Okay. I guess Luke's here.
Robbie Mann
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Hi, guys.
Alex Jones
Youtub take you all along right now. You guys are tough. You guys, you're pretty tough. How about we just fight right now? You're real man. All of you. Come on. Let's go. Every one of you. Let's go. Let's prove how badass you are, slug. Let's go. You think you take me? Let's see what happens.
Tim Pool
I think I can take you.
Alex Jones
No, you can. Why don't you do it right now? Every man in here. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Let's go. 8. Let's go.
Tim Pool
Robbie will fight you.
Luke Rudkowski
Robbie.
Alex Jones
I'm ready. That's a big over there. I'm ready for war. I'm ready for war. I'm ready to live in Joe Rogan's vagina.
Luke Rudkowski
Let's.
Tim Pool
Let's start with the news.
Alex Jones
I guess I just gave the most viral clip of the year. It's a joke.
Tim Pool
You're trying to.
Alex Jones
It's comedy. I love joke. I suck his every night. It's just that we try to be family friendly. Lube it up.
Tim Pool
He's gonna get us. Get the show taken down.
Alex Jones
How about the engineer get. Oh, Lindsay. And like. And I watch, like Rubio gets in and then. And then in comes Hugaby with his 12 foot. And they just boom, boom. I'm just sitting there, like, that's what I do.
Ian Cross
Oh, God.
Alex Jones
An 18 foot dick. And I just move up those. Those Neocon comes in with that eight footer.
Tim Pool
I imagine. I imagine Huckabee's watching, being like. I'm kind of offended. But that is a compliment.
Alex Jones
Let's start the news.
Tim Pool
Here's the story from the Daily Mail. Joe Rogan fears White House will be targeted by Iran during UFC event. We have a short clip for. It's only 40 seconds, but we'll play it to give you the context of what Joe was talking about. Are you excited for the White House card? That looks really good.
Alex Jones
Yes, I'm excited. It sounds crazy. I know. It's gonna be very high security and high stress and weird to have a fight at the White House in the middle of a fucking war. The war will be sorted out by June, but quite honestly, I'm not confident that that's gonna be the case.
Tim Pool
No.
Alex Jones
Yeah.
Tim Pool
No.
Alex Jones
Yeah. So that would be weird.
Robbie Mann
Yeah.
Alex Jones
Having this very high profile event where everybody's in one place at one time. Right there.
Tim Pool
I hadn't thought of that.
Alex Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
So you're not excited to be there?
Alex Jones
Yeah. It seems like you're asking for. Holy shit.
Tim Pool
I haven't thought of that at all.
Alex Jones
How could you not think of that?
Tim Pool
Well, because. Because I'm not gonna be there. You're the One that has to think
Alex Jones
of it because Joe Rogan is the. His holy vagina realizes it's a threat.
Tim Pool
I don't, I don't. I am not really concerned about the White House itself. You know, of all the places we secure in this country, Iran's not going to do anything at the White House.
Alex Jones
Yeah, I love Joe, but I mean, that is a major pussy statement.
Tim Pool
I, I, I, I. He didn't say don't do it. He just said that it's going to be a target. And I, sure. It's just, I look there, there. If, if, if Iran was going to.
Alex Jones
The real target is the neocons in Trump's butthole.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Alex Jones
They're like, that's the main target.
Tim Pool
It's like, well, I mean, Trump isn't. Iran would much prefer to get rid of the neocons that are pressuring Trump to engage in war.
Alex Jones
You know about Pastor Manning, That's a fiery butthole, right?
Tim Pool
The what?
Alex Jones
Burn, burn, burn, burn, burn. I know. Yep. Pull up Pastor Manning. It's a prophecy of Trump.
Ian Cross
What's his name?
Tim Pool
The prophecy of Trump.
Alex Jones
I just had to have some fun. I'm sorry, I apologize. It's all humor. I love Joe Rogan. Love President Trump. My bottom line is this. You said, start the show off. We went live with I love Rogan. Oh, my God. This event, maybe we shouldn't have it. What the fuck are we talking about? We're gonna blow the out of the moolahs. Let's not worry about what they're gonna do. Let's not cancel our boxing match. So I'm.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah, I agree.
Alex Jones
So, so, so, But I, I mean, I get his. He's just being honest here. I'm admitted Joe. I love Joe. All I'm saying is, is that
Luke Rudkowski
12
Alex Jones
days ago, and I said it's going to go wrong. They're going to block straight our moves. But I said, once we're in it, we're in it because the moolahs are crazy. Or double down. Now they've done it. Now we stuck our wiener in the electric socket. So now we are committed, baby.
Luke Rudkowski
And there's not multiple reports of two ceasefires that Donald Trump tried to do with the Iranians and the Iranians are saying, nope, we're not doing any of that.
Tim Pool
Well, because the strategy, the Iranians, the Iranian strategy is that Trump is politically vulnerable in a midterm year. Yeah, they're going, they said we're, they're autocratic. They can do whatever they want and they can just wait and so the reported strategy is they'll take as much collateral damage as they have to because Trump is losing political points at home among.
Alex Jones
Among miners are crazy Shiites. Exactly.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Right.
Alex Jones
And so now they're in the drop even though they're losing, being blown up politically and physically. They don't care because they're willing to die. Like I'm not comparing the Colonel Travis, because they were the good guys, but they're willing to die. So they were the winners. Everybody loves to pray people to get sacrificed. So Iran is crazy willing to do it. So what do we do now when they close this trade which is done. And, and then what do we do when they keep doubling down, say fine, hit me again. Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
They're religiously, fundamentally, you're fighting for life and death. They understand, hey, we have to.
Alex Jones
Their whole thing is about this coming.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly. They and, and then the new Ayatollah is even talking about the prophecies of Armageddon and we have other Israeli top politicians even peak headset talking about the third Temple when he was in Israel. So all of these kind of like religious prophecies and zealots coming out and saying bring it.
Alex Jones
Saying the Israeli ambassador of the US Saying yeah, Israel takes it all.
Ian Cross
Hu takes all what?
Alex Jones
All the Middle East.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Well BB just said he's the, he's the US Ambassador.
Alex Jones
I call him the Israeli ambassador.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
Phil That Remains
Do you know Abe Lincoln was dealing with this. He had in midterm coming up or he had an election coming up with the anti war Democrats were going to get into power and end the civil war and a stalemate. So he was like, we have to do something drastic because we may lose our power. He issued Sherman to just burn everything and kill as many people as possible. End the war as fast as possible. So worst case scenario, you see hell on earth be unleashed on the Iranian people before the midterms. I don't want to see it.
Alex Jones
But I mean Trump said that. He said, I may destroy your whole country. They're like, I thought we're trying. Half of them don't want to be with this. I just. It's a disaster. That's why the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Look, I'm not a rocket scientist, but the Eric Prince, a major hawk, said don't do it. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Kane said, don't do it because it's a roll the dice. You don't roll dice on stuff. You roll dice on your own money. You don't do it on stuff like this.
Tim Pool
Well, you heard what Rubio said about why we got involved. Israel was going to make an attack on Iran. We knew that there would be a retaliation targeting the United States. So Ruby says, we don't want to take a defensive posture. So he decided to go in with them.
Alex Jones
Which they had testimony Congress two days ago confirming that.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Alex Jones
So Israel made us do this.
Tim Pool
I don't.
Alex Jones
You know me. I'm not the guy with a hard on for Israel. But Israel should not be calling our shots.
Tim Pool
Agreed. And I think Trump should have been like, good luck. Yeah.
Phil That Remains
Because if they responded and attacked us, then we could have been like, hey, we have no choice now.
Tim Pool
Exactly.
Phil That Remains
This makes us look like an aggressor.
Alex Jones
Exactly. We should have taken the attack. Then we'd be the victims. Then blow the shadow. Exactly.
Tim Pool
It's not. You know. And there's the challenge.
Luke Rudkowski
Right.
Tim Pool
Because that's. And you know this better than anybody, but the Project for a New American Century, when they. Who was it who said, April 2020,
Alex Jones
we had a Pearl harbor event launched in American empire.
Tim Pool
And then there was the quote that I think it might have been Rumsfeld saying sometimes we need a terror attack to remind people of what we're protecting them from.
Alex Jones
He said, we need 3,000 dead.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Alex Jones
Which is crazy. Which is Pearl harbor, which they had on nine, 11.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And that's the challenge. I mean, if we did nothing and Iran attacked us, then we'd go in and what Rubio said was then we'd be in hearings talking about how we knew was going to happen. And we didn't take. We didn't do anything to prevent it.
Alex Jones
Well, I'll be honest. If there was a magic red button to send the muzzles to Mars, I'd hit it. But every time we do this, they just put the head of Al Qaeda for Trump got in. In charge of Syria. Israel created Hamas. So here's the deal. If we were actually fixing it, I'd be for it. Islam's cancer. But we don't fix it. We put worse Muslims in and we
Luke Rudkowski
finance and we train them and we give them arms, we give them weapons and we give them the training. And then it bites us in the butt and it's like, what did we think was going to happen here? Israel even came out today and they're saying that this regime is unlikely. Obviously, everyone knew this was going to happen.
Alex Jones
Y And I was called a Qatari agent for reading the report that admitted this. Yeah, I have got no money from Qatar. I'm waiting for the money right now.
Tim Pool
There's also Rumors that the son of the Ayatollah is already dead.
Alex Jones
Yeah, I mean, he's in a coma at least. Have not lied about who they killed.
Tim Pool
I, I, but the rumors in the, in, in, in Israel is that he's dead.
Alex Jones
Well, one thing is what tells truth about is who they killed. They said we killed the atoll a week and a half ago. It was true. They said this guy's in a coma. I believe it.
Tim Pool
So it's Israel saying he's in a coma.
Alex Jones
Yeah. Yeah.
Tim Pool
All right. Well, there was rumors last week, we had talked about it, that he got wounded, he's fine. Then they said they amputated his leg. He didn't show up for his own coronation ceremony or whatever. Now they're saying he's in a coma. I would not be surprised if in two or three days they're like, yeah, he's dead.
Alex Jones
And that the reason I think he probably is dead.
Tim Pool
I don't know for sure. But I think they do have good reason strategically.
Alex Jones
Well, they dropped three 30,000 pound bombs
Tim Pool
on you, but, but the Iranian government's not going to want to admit that the United States has repeatedly just killed all of its leaders, its new leader, and wiped out their government. That and the people might actually revolt and the chain of command breaks down. So they're going to say, no, no, he's alive. Here's a statement to keep the confidence going that they exist to try and outlast Trump because Trump's politically vulnerable right now. But I think it'll be concluded in a few weeks if Trump really does escalate bombing campaigns. And that doesn't mean we win, it doesn't mean the government is over. What I'm saying is we may stop striking, they may stop striking, but nothing may be resolved.
Alex Jones
No, I mean, I agree with that, but here's the deal. I want an exit strategy here and I would love to get rhythm. Willis. I said when it started 12 days ago. I said it started, I think it's not going to work. I hope they fail. I hope they fall right now. But it didn't happen. I'm not a rocket scientist. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs and all the other reports told him it probably wouldn't work. Yeah. And my listeners are like, you're a Qatari agent. No, like the Pentagon said, don't do it because it's a roll of the dice.
Tim Pool
What's up with all this, like the Israel stuff?
Alex Jones
That's retarded. I've never been to Israel. Nothing to do with Israel. Anytime I'm like, people are like, it rained today. Israel did it. I'm like, well, no, it's like, you
Tim Pool
know, the reason I ask you is because you've got more experience in the independent media space, particularly when it comes to government conspiracy psychological operations and all that. And, you know, you've been here longer than anybody else. And then all of a sudden, over the past six months, there's been this dramatic shift online where now everyone's just talking about Israel doing everything all the time.
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Tim Pool
like all the conspiracy stuff that you've talked about when it comes to liberal economic order, you know, Project for New American Century, all that is just gone now. No one cares. None of that exists. It's just Israel did it.
Alex Jones
It's because Qatar doesn't lie about they spend like 20 million a year on this. And so it doesn't mean that about Israel isn't true. They have changed the whole subject into that instead of China and the EU trying to censor Americans. So I like, hey, the EU tried to arrest Elon Musk with huge fines. Or Brazil shut up, Israel. So it's kind of like a public woke up like a baby duck kind of imprint. The first thing it sees. So the public woke up. And so the Muslim Brotherhood, which Qatar funds, said, oh, the first thing you see is Israel, which Israel deserves it many ways. But it's also retarded because now the baby duck woke up and all it sees is Israel.
Tim Pool
Yeah, and so it's retarded yeah, the, you know, the conversation I often have about it is that, like, certainly criticize Israel for their machinations and whatever they're trying to do, but there's a whole bunch of other foreign policy and special interests around the world that the US is involved in that has nothing to do with the Middle East.
Alex Jones
Well, exactly. I'll cover China running like half the Democrats with proof. And half the comments are, why covering up for Israel. It's like, they don't. I cover like, oh, literally like little fires and floods in Texas a few months ago. And half the comments were, why cover for Israel? There's like, like, can't cover a flood. Can't cover a fire. Yeah, can't cover. It's just Israel. It's Israel because it's all they know. And they think that's like, that's the secret thing. I think that's the special little treat.
Tim Pool
I think social media is doing it on purpose. And the reason people think this is because it's being blasted into their feeds 24 7, which triggers other people to blast.
Alex Jones
No, I agree. The system wants this clash. That's what I explained.
Luke Rudkowski
Like, well, they want to divide and conquer people. They want people fighting each other based on superficial differences. The first thing I kind of think about here is Cass Sunstein, Obama's information czar. He literally wrote the white paper on disinformation. And he talked about how he needed to hijack legitimate criticism by making it seem crazy. He literally wrote the book. He was also connected. He'll discredit it by putting out fake actors out there that will make theories that sound really crazy. So you destroy any kind of legitimate criticism or question.
Tim Pool
And then Nick Fuentes, who's critical of Israel, is banned from YouTube and Candace Owens is put up on the front page.
Alex Jones
Yeah, well, but here's my deal. People ask why I attack Candace Owens. She says, ice melts at 30 degrees. And she says, I'm a time traveler.
Tim Pool
I mean, it's just like, Charlie was a time traveler.
Alex Jones
Yeah, he was a time traveler. Exactly. I'm just like, I'm like, I'm not even saying I trust TV usa. I'm not saying we're on a cover up of Charlie Kirk, but I cannot buy Mitch Snow with a hammer convicted of beating his wife with a hammer. And then he puts the story out. She attacked me with a hammer. And Candace goes with it and raises $200,000. I'm just like, I'm not gonna lie. Like, it's just crazy.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this Story this is, we got this video that's going viral from Mario Nl. He says Netanyahu quote, we will make it to the return of the Messiah, but this will not happen next Thursday. And so this video has been been making the rounds of course, since it got 400,000 views. And there was an, an article written a few days ago. Israel is gripped by messianic fervor for biblical war. Now there's another video that's massively going viral where the, everyone's saying that he, he said return of the Messiah as if to imply he believes in Jesus Christ when you actually Jewish Messiah. No, no, it says return. The Jews believe the Messiah has not come. So if Netanyahu says the return of the Messiah, that means he thinks the Messiah has already been here.
Alex Jones
Did he say that?
Tim Pool
So here's, here's, here's what I've, what I've found in the transcript. When you, when you ask for a translation through GROK or whatever, it says the, the in Hebrew, the. In what he is speaking, it can be paraphrased either way, as in the era of the Messiah or the return of.
Alex Jones
Well, David was the Messiah, so he returns.
Tim Pool
The Jewish law, they do believe that David was a Messiah.
Alex Jones
He was the art. It was the art. Yeah, he was the precursor.
Tim Pool
I thought, I thought they haven't had their Messiah yet.
Alex Jones
No, but it's all David was the Messiah, he returns.
Tim Pool
Well, either way, that, that is a component of why people have been sharing this clip quite a bit. But this plays into one of the theories. It's kind of interesting. This video is coming out now. There are a lot of people that
Alex Jones
are suggesting I haven't seen this yet. Oh no, I mean actually study the Old Testament. Everything's a precursor. So yeah, David is, is the precursor to the Messiah.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, it says that the Messiah will come from David's family line.
Alex Jones
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
Well, so then again, I, my understanding is that return of David. So indeed what's actually called the star.
Alex Jones
Anyway, sorry.
Tim Pool
The reason why this is picking up steam is that one of the theories amongst those who are who believe Israel runs everything is that they're trying to make everyone hate them because they have to go to war with the world in order to trigger the return of their Messiah. So if there really is this, as this article said, messianic fervor. And then you get Netanyahu literally saying we will make it to the return of the Messiah, but not by next Thursday. A lot of people are jumping on this and saying straight from the man's Mouth they are doing.
Alex Jones
I think that it's not all the Jews, but certainly there's different Jewish interests that get. When they're attacked, they get more power. Netanyahu has been indicted. Netanyahu in jail right now. And so why isn't he by, by him being under attack, he stays in power. So I'm not going to judge him on, you know, his weird Supreme Court battles. I don't. It's all so confusing. See how you just say I do the answers. It's so confusing. I don't know. But definitely they are invoking this messianic stuff.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil That Remains
Do you think he's like creating war to stay in? I mean, I'm not saying you're saying this, but that he would be creating
Alex Jones
like three years ago when they. Or two years ago when they did October 7th, he said, we'll look at why there was a stand down later once the war's over. But the war never ends.
Ian Cross
Yeah, yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Wars are meant to be continued. And there's a lot of soldiers that are literally talking about this being a holy war for them so they could bring in the Third Temple. Albert pike talked about a lot of this stuff. 1871, he wrote a letter about World War III and it's absolutely crazy.
Tim Pool
1871 here about World War III?
Luke Rudkowski
Yes.
Tim Pool
Anybody about it?
Luke Rudkowski
No. He talked about World War I, he talked about World War II, and then he talked about World War III and he talked about the Jews fighting the Muslims in this world. That will bring in the demon, will bring in the kind of demonic order. So this is, I mean, I've been talking about this for about 12 years. I did a video with David Icke about this.
Tim Pool
I'm sorry, real quick, just don't forget what you're gonna say. Albert Pike's statue was torn down by anti racism protesters and the George Floyd riots.
Luke Rudkowski
Of course, not a surprise there at all. But a lot of people would believe that this is prophecy being kind of. That we're kind of living through this as it's being played out right in front of our eyes.
Phil That Remains
Is the demon the AI technocratic overstate?
Ian Cross
Who knows?
Tim Pool
Well, you were advocating for it yesterday. And that's my point is that AI judges.
Alex Jones
I literally don't hate Jews. Like I don't sit with a big heart on and like about falling a banana pill blank Jews. But now Israel is literally every step you can to make it all about Israel, which is not. It's China and the EU and all these powers and it's just like constantly, oh, we're here. No, no, we're the. I'm smart enough to go like, what's going on here?
Ian Cross
Like, every country has, every country has their own interests. And people that think that everything is about Israel is totally, they're totally overlooking the fact that every country has their own interests, they have their own agency, and they have their own own plans. There are times where like the US Interest in Israel's overlap, but it doesn't mean that Israel's in control of everything.
Tim Pool
But to that point, I agree. I understand what you're saying, Alex. That they are trying to take the spotlight in all of these affairs.
Alex Jones
Exactly. Israel wants the attack because then there are people get behind them. So it's not like Israel's involved in all the bad stuff, but they're like, okay, we'll be the villain. It's just like, I'm just like, I
Tim Pool
actually think, you know, if you, if you take a, if you take a look at the latest media moves over the past several months, like the purchase of CBS and TikTok, there is a, what did you used to call it, Alex? Problem, reaction, solution. So whether Olson bottom up, whether it's intentional or otherwise, you have this, this, this burst of anti Israel and quite honestly, a lot of anti Semitic content, then this triggers prominent wealthy millionaires and billionaires, Jewish and otherwise, to buy up these platforms to ban that content. So in essence, by, by having this large burst of anti Semitic or anti Israel content, you then create the circumstances by which you can get powerful interests to shut those things down.
Alex Jones
You said it. And I don't know what the end game is. I'm just like, I'm against Israel trying to start a nuclear war, but I'm also not against Israel. I'm just like, man, I'm done.
Tim Pool
Like, I'm like, I'm fairly ambivalent. Foreign affairs is foreign affairs to me. It's crazy to me that there are people hyper for and against. No, I understand what people would be for it, especially if you're Jewish and you're Israeli. But the fact that there are so many people in the United States who are foreign against it, who are neither, that's strange to me. Yeah, I'm like, we can talk about China now.
Alex Jones
See how Iran, because they're willing to kill their own people. Two days ago I said, I said, Iran is belligerent. They're in bold. And I was like, oh, you're a Qatari agent, hang out the check yet. My point was they don't care. They're willing to die. So I'm saying, like, what do you do when you're faced with this? Yeah, like, this is cuckoo town.
Tim Pool
Well, I have a question for you because. Because again, I think you would know this better than most people, but we've talked about the US Motivations for going against Iran, and it largely has to do with the Strait of Hormuz, the 20% of oil and gas flowing through from the Gulf states, and the US Maintaining its economy on the petrodollar. So my, My position, my view of this is the US looks at Iran as a disruptor of international oil trade, for which we tell our customers, you use dollars to buy oil, we'll police the seas. Iran tells us to shove off funds militias, Houthi rebels, they bomb cargo ships. So the US Says this has to stop. I'm curious if you agree or how do you see it?
Alex Jones
No, that's totally. No, that's it. That's it. And my point is, the chairman of the Joint Chief told Trump, they've got a whole army right there. Even we blow them up, they can block the strait, and that's 25% of the oil. So it creates a crisis. Trump's like, well, we'll fix it in a year. Yeah, a year. Trump's whole plan to fix inflation is based on cheap energy. So this messes him up. So he's not thinking. That's why he's suddenly like, oh, God. In the war. Oh, God. Which I agree with. Like, yeah, dude, this ain't, like, just blow some stuff up. So. So I think. I wish. I actually wish the Muslims all go away. I want Israel to be free. I'm not even. My sick thing is, I get nothing by being nice to Israel. I'm not. I've never been to Israel, not in Israel's team. But I want to blow up the Jews. I don't blow up Israel. I'm just like, stop using us in these wars to expand your power. And then Israel's like, oh, Greater Israel, we're going to. I saw these clips. Like, we're going to take over the whole Middle East. And I'm just like, with us paying for it. So I'm like, you're making me come out against you. Stop it. That. That's grounded. With Israel, it's like, stop. It's crazy.
Tim Pool
Well, the problem is, if we want to maintain the petrodollar, which puffs up our economy, we have to force everybody in line. And this is why you get these regime change wars. It's why.
Alex Jones
It's why we already have that all in line. Israel, well, not with Iran, has already defeated all its enemies. Like when they were attacking the last few years. I'm like, great. Israel defeated, you know, the Lebanon, the Hamas in, in Gaza. Right. That just adds to megalomania. So see, they've already beat all their enemies. Do you see? The Israeli former prime minister said, well, when we're done with Iran, Turkey's next. Turkey has the biggest military in Europe. Israel's now saying, we're ready. Turkey.
Ian Cross
Turkey is also a member of NATO, which, I mean, I, I personally, I'm not a fan of Turkey being in NATO. But like if Israel either.
Alex Jones
But like now Israel wants us to.
Tim Pool
I'm actually. They got great baklava. They got these things called islak burgers. They're lamb burgers that you dip in like an oily tomato sauce. Never forgive Turkish government. We can complain about.
Luke Rudkowski
You saw this on Fox News and you saw Rupert Murdoch actually through all the kind of news organizations push. We have to go to Turkey. Turkey's a threat. Turkey's not agreeing.
Tim Pool
The phosphorus is extremely important.
Alex Jones
Yeah. So they already, they already have a new enemy. It's like the US has to get out of NATO now. We're gonna fight biggest army in Europe.
Tim Pool
But guys, guys, think of all the Turkish delight we'd get.
Ian Cross
Like I said, no, we wouldn't.
Tim Pool
We would bomb the crap out of them.
Luke Rudkowski
There'd be no delights for anybody. It would be nothing. Yeah, and then Pakistan also is another.
Alex Jones
Why is Israel their former. They're on tv. Turkey, you're next. Fine, Israel. I'm not against Israel. But if you want to kill yourself, go fight this dude. But it's like Mike Tyson. Like, I'm like 80 pound dude, like Mike Tyson. I'm gonna hit your ass. Turkey has this giant military and Israel knows we're going to back them.
Tim Pool
No, no, not against a NATO member.
Ian Cross
Yeah, it's not.
Alex Jones
You saw Israel's tea and Turkey for sure, for sure.
Tim Pool
But that they're going to find the line.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, Bibi just announced today that Israel isn't just going to be a regional power, but a global superpower. When you're a global superpower, as BB announced, you're going to have to.
Alex Jones
Oh, yeah, we control the U.S. they say it. So now we run the world like cuckoo town. If you actually ran things. Shut up.
Phil That Remains
If they're right, if they're talking about Turkey, that means next after Turkey, they're going to talk about taking over Spain and taking over Morocco so that they can control Gibraltar for that Western Seaport.
Alex Jones
Exactly.
Ian Cross
I don't. I personally, I don't think that any of that is going to happen because.
Alex Jones
No, but I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's cuckoo.
Ian Cross
It is.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to the story and bring it back domestically. We've got this from the Post Millennial Old Dominion shooter Muhammad Jalo shouted Ali Akbar as he opened fire. Says the FBI, they can. FBI has confirmed he shattered the phrase right before firing his gun. So for those that haven't.
Alex Jones
And by the way, he was convicted in 2016 of being an ISIS operative. Why the hell was this guy not in a supermax?
Tim Pool
I like how you said, hell yeah.
Alex Jones
I'm trying to be nice. Like, come on, baby.
Ian Cross
It was good.
Tim Pool
They say the dead Old Dominion shooter Muhammad Jalo shot at Alu Akbar right before he opened fire on students. This was at Old Dominion University in Virginia, I believe.
Ian Cross
Correct?
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Alex Jones
Yeah.
Tim Pool
They say that FBI authorities also called the shooting an act of terrorism. And this isn't the only one. We also have that synagogue story, which we'll get to in a Muslim. So we.
Alex Jones
That. My point is why? How he was convicted.
Tim Pool
Well, so. Well, here's the question. You are right. How is this happening? Are we. Is the US government letting it happen?
Alex Jones
100.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. I mean, even the Trump in Syria.
Ian Cross
Well, the.
Luke Rudkowski
The place Al Qaeda. With Al Qaeda. How much money do we spend on that? And this is the Trump assassin, by the way. The FBI shipped him into the United States.
Tim Pool
This particular. Wait, which one? Which one?
Luke Rudkowski
The one that they recently caught recently. He's really Pakistani. He had an Iranian wife. But that guy literally brought him in
Alex Jones
the country that was going to kill Trump. Yeah, both plots were CIA hardened lunatics.
Ian Cross
Yeah, but this guy in particular, this guy that that shot made the. OR that committed the attack at the Dominion. At Old Dominion. He was a product of a failed Justice Department. They should have put him in jail forever. It wasn't like the.
Alex Jones
The U.S. he was convicted of an ISIS operative and that was.
Ian Cross
He should have been in a Virginia prison for. For the rest of his life or
Tim Pool
just not in this country.
Ian Cross
Fair enough. But I do want to point out ISIS operative. Yeah, hold on. I want to point out an ROTC guy stabbed him and took the guy that. Oh, right, right. The guy that killed. He got killed by a dude with
Tim Pool
a knife in the sea. Yeah, and you got some badass.
Luke Rudkowski
That kid.
Ian Cross
That kid. Yeah, that kid needs a valor commentary. Absolutely.
Alex Jones
Absolutely. America. About America.
Robbie Mann
Hell yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
But the CIA has a history of bringing these guys in. Look, at the 911 hijackers, they were denied visas into America. And then Michael Springmeier at the Jeddah consulate literally came and said, I was forced to allow these guys into America
Alex Jones
because under Brennan, I interviewed Springman. Brennan ordered him to let all the hijackers in.
Ian Cross
Fine. But the. There's no evidence that this guy was actually brought in by the CIA. And with four years of an open border and with the policies that the left has been, he could have got in. Actually, no, he was here in, in 2016. So this probably was during President Obama ISIS operative. Yeah, so this was during.
Alex Jones
This falls on Obama ISIS operative still running around.
Ian Cross
He should have been in jail forever.
Tim Pool
Do you think this is inside job?
Alex Jones
No, I think these liberal judges, but here in Austin, it's all run by Soros. The other guy like shoots five people.
Tim Pool
There was, there was a video that's been going viral where a guy was drunk driving and he crashed into vehicle, killing this man's daughter and grandparents. This was in the uk, I think. And the, the female judge got him off on like community service or something. So the dude threw a chair at her, I guess. I think this is as hell. I think. What's her name? Helen Andrews. Is that the. The woman talks about the feminization of our institutions. You're getting. Soros is propping a lot of these individuals up. So it's ideological as well.
Alex Jones
But the Stockholm syndrome, oh, you raped me, I turn you loose.
Tim Pool
They're releasing all of these criminals and I think you make a good point because this is something that people have warned about for the past several years. This is what's going to happen when you keep releasing criminals. You get an ISIS guy and they say, give him a second chance. So what does he do? He goes and shoots a bunch of people.
Alex Jones
I saw a video today where a 16 year old's driving reckless on a moped in traffic 80 miles an hour. The cops arrest him and I see 50 videos where they pull over illegal alien just gonna turn the lights on their 18 wheeler and they go, you can go, you're an illegal alien. It's like, what the hell is this?
Tim Pool
Do you hear about the guy? I think he got 10 years for cheating in a fishing contest. Yeah, you heard the story. He was putting weights in his fish. So they convicted him. It's like fraud, 10 years, something like that. I don't know what the actual charges
Alex Jones
were, but yeah, our system is great. Then if you have a crooked two nail, you go to prison. I'm like, hey, I want molesters I want bank robbers. I want child molesters dead. Once you've done with them, they can worry about cheating on a bass fishing,
Tim Pool
Texas fishing cheating scandal. Why a man could face 10 years for allegedly tampering with bass. Maybe it's worse than any of us realize, but it's a terrible headline when you have an ISIS guy get released and then go commit a terror attack. And a guy who is this guy
Alex Jones
goes, kills people and you're worried about a bass. I'm like, what is this, Luke?
Luke Rudkowski
It's insanity.
Tim Pool
Oh, it's in Texas too.
Phil That Remains
It's probably intentional. I bet this whole, like, oh, Arabs hate Jews. Isn't as big of a deal as people. They're just making it seem like they got every Jew around.
Luke Rudkowski
Every.
Phil That Remains
They're probably like, bro, all we want is stability. And America is like, no, what we
Alex Jones
want is the world. So the Muslims invented modern mathematics before the Muslims, the West, 100 years ago, British intelligence Muslims, they were. They were like, it was a Riviera, man. The Muslims went rock and roll and champagne, baby.
Tim Pool
There was a really funny post where some liberal guy said that Zoran Mandani has started teaching children Arabic numerals in schools. And then a bunch of conservatives got really angry saying like, this is disgusting. I can't believe it's come to this. Why are they doing this? Because they don't know that Arabic numerals are literally the numbers that we use. That just literally numbers.
Ian Cross
Yeah, yeah. It's just people looking for rage bait with that when it comes to that kind of stuff.
Alex Jones
No, let me tell you, the Middle east had high iq, so they're in breeding. Yeah, whatever you mean about it. Like now they're.
Tim Pool
Yeah, they. A lot of cousin marriage and stuff.
Alex Jones
Oh, my God.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Ian Cross
Arranged marriages and stuff.
Tim Pool
I first heard this from Joe Rogan podcast. He was talking with Gavin McInnes about it, and Gavin was talking about how there's.
Alex Jones
And that got banned.
Tim Pool
They deleted episode.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
But I looked it up. I'm like, this is the weirdest thing about that ERA in the 2010s, is that information that was readily available on government websites would get you banned off social media. Like, I. I can't remember who posted FBI crime stats. You post FBI crime stats. Tommy Robinson did it. Twitter banned him.
Alex Jones
They like, is Trump imperfect? And I pitched by him all day. But we should bitch about Democrats way more because we have to remember where we were, that what are they going to do? They get back in power.
Tim Pool
Well, Luke made a really good point about what's going on. Do you want to, do you want to make that point about the trap?
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. No, I believe the little bit of free speech that we have is essentially the cheese on the, on the rat trap that all of us are now engaging in. And it's going to close behind us as of course, a lot of people are using it to its fullest potential. But I see it as a trap. That's what it feels like to me. That's what my instincts feel like. Because I saw how the Internet was all the way in 2006. I saw the trap. I talked about the trap all the way in 2008. I said, we're going to lose our free speech. We lost our.
Alex Jones
We are taking Trump for granted with those problems. What is going to happen when the Democrats get back in? We should be talking about. We are. Oh, we're free now. Oh, I'm so bad on YouTube. But the point is, imagine when they get back and take a piss.
Tim Pool
Yes. When they get back. So Luke made an interesting point. And the way I described it was the door has been open and everyone rushes through and all starts clamoring, having a conversation. Then when the Democrats win back power in the midterms, start filing investigations and subpoenas, start putting pressure on these big tech companies. The big tech companies are gonna say, close the doors again. Well, guess what, we're all standing outside now. So they're gonna cut off the space. And how does that really manifest? They're gonna say, guys, we are banning any instance of A, B, C and D. Then they're gonna go to your channel and they're gonna say, you have 300 videos that break the rules. You're deleted.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly. And they're gonna know exactly who to target. They're gonna know exactly who to take out. And they're not gonna do it step by step. Slowly is just going to be one day overnight, everything's gone. That's why I'm telling my people to sign up to like my members group to my email list right now. Because one day all of us are just going to lose our speech and there's nothing that we could do.
Tim Pool
They're also probably going to, before that happens, knock on your door and lead you away in cuffs.
Luke Rudkowski
Then to be that it might not even need to even go there. Because once they deplatform you, right. Once they debank you like, you can't even exist.
Tim Pool
Let me ask you guys this question. What would happen if one day tons of prominent anti war, anti uniparty individuals, I mean, because this could theoretically be left or right technically, just didn't wake up. Let's say like 73 high profile personalities with millions of followers that talk politics, populist level stuff. So even some lefties, some conservatives, some moderates, just, they did not wake up. And then something happens where they're like, it looks like there was a mass poisoning, like someone targeted the meals of these individuals in the days prior and killed them and then they died.
Ian Cross
Normies would go about their day.
Tim Pool
Normies would go about their day. It would be considered a major scandal that because it affected left and right, no one would know anything. Like there would be nothing about, they'd be like, wow, this is the, the craziest serial killing spree we've ever seen and we have no evidence. And I gotta be honest, normies would go about their day and within three or four weeks it would be a thing that happened that sometimes get brought up because I mean, let's do this, let's talk about 9, 11, not in depth, but just bringing up. 3,000 people lose their lives that day. And there were years of questions about investigations, about weird, weird things that weren't answered for, like why did they get rid of all of the metal they shipped it off. Thermite potentially being found or at least molten steel. Now I'm not, I'm not asserting anything about what did or didn't happen, but my point is whatever happened after a couple of years, everyone said that's now the past. So my point is not that it will happen, it's more of a thought exercise of if overnight. Look, let's be real. If a roving band of antifa went, just massacred a bunch of conservative personalities, yeah, you'd have a real problem. But if 70 high profile individuals who do this kind of news and challenge the media all got poisoned within a day or two of each other, it would be major news, people would be freaking out, there would be some hearings and then six, seven months later people would be talking about something else again.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, absolutely. I mean your, you know, theory is not wrong. Look what's happening in the United Kingdom, look what's happening when people over, probably
Tim Pool
the UK is over. I mean, I can't believe this. We got it made.
Alex Jones
Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
Germany, yeah, Canada too. If we're gonna liberate some people, the people of Canada need to be liberated.
Ian Cross
When you mentioned, you mentioned what's going on in the UK and what's going on in Germany and stuff like in Germany and France, the government is actually outlawing the parties that are pushing Back. They're outlawing the, the fd. They're, they're out like Le Pen.
Luke Rudkowski
They're outlawing ideas and thoughts.
Tim Pool
Let me pull the story up. We've got this from the ap. This is massive news. Ladies and gentlemen, the United Kingdom. It's done. There's two big stories. First, Britain is ejecting hereditary nobles from Parliament after 700 years. This is the historic 700 year system. Now, by all means, I do think there's reason to criticize a system where you inherit basically a Senate seat. It's basically how it works. You got the House of Lords and you got the House of the Commons or House of Commons. And the Commons is like your congressional reps and the Lords is like your senators. And I actually completely disagree with this. I actually think the US should repeal the 17th amendment and bring our senators back to appointments by state level politicians. This is a little bit different because you inherit your political seat, which is kind of weird if you think about it. But that being said, whatever your view is on it, this is a long standing 700 year tradition that ties the modern political infrastructure of Britain to its history. And they are getting rid of it. On top of that, they are getting rid of Winston Churchill on their banknotes among other English leaders and replacing them with hedgehogs and beavers. I am not kidding.
Ian Cross
Perfect.
Tim Pool
This is the end of the uk. There's no other way to explain it. You're not allowed to speak anymore. I mean, it's been that way for a while. There are certain groups that seemingly have carte blanche to do whatever they want. Migrant groups. There's a polio outbreak happening now. They're getting rid of their ties to their own traditions and history, their political system. That's it. I mean, what's next?
Ian Cross
And the UK isn't like they're not political or not economically strong enough to just be an economic zone, right? Like, yeah, people make the argument here, oh, the US is just, you know, is more than an economic zone. And I agree with that. But the US can, you know, the, the economic power of the US does matter. The uk, it doesn't. Their manufacturing base is gone. They don't make anything in the UK to talk about anymore. Like the only thing the UK has is tradition and they're totally just destroying that at a record pace.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, their local population is just not reproducing. Right. They're bringing in new people and then they're afraid to even hold the new people that they brought in accountable to the laws of the land. There's roaming grooming gangs that just get away because police officers don't want to culturally offend as they're doing at least 30 arrests a day for speech in the United Kingdom. The UK is always the blueprint for the kind of prison planet, the kind of enslavement system that they want to roll out. This is what's going to be happening to America if we allow the same type of steps that are happening even now, even under the Trump administration with the digital id, with the facial, racial, facial recognition scanners. All of this stuff is setting us up to a very dangerous situation.
Tim Pool
No, it's bad. But think of the possibilities like this, okay?
Ian Cross
Pokemon.
Tim Pool
It's not a Pokemon. I know, it's.
Ian Cross
It's that sign of the hedgehog. I know I'm making a joke about it, but yeah,
Tim Pool
turning the banknotes from the bank of England into Pokemon cards. Actually, I gotta be honest, I don't rightly care for a ten pound note with a picture of Churchill on it, but I would absolutely, absolutely get one of these. I mean, look, they were like, if
Ian Cross
they were like, oh, we're gonna take, you know, George Washington off the, off the.
Tim Pool
They tore down Thomas Jefferson statue.
Ian Cross
I'm fully aware of that.
Tim Pool
But there was, there was a good amount.
Ian Cross
There was enough. There was pushback on that. And, and I understand that, you know, the left was very successful. But this is exactly why I think that it's so important to prevent the left from getting back into power. Like, if they get into power, it's going to be all of the stuff that was happening during the Biden administration, but it's going to be ramped up, like so much worse than it was.
Phil That Remains
I think this is a good thing. This is something that they started in 1999, the reform process of getting the hereditary peers out of office. They left 92 people in. And I think this is because of people like Tommy Robinson. They like, they're moving away from. Why do you. Hereditary monarchy.
Ian Cross
Why do you think it's good?
Phil That Remains
Because I don't think your birth. You should be born into power like that. I don't think you should, you should have a title passed down to your son. It should be democratic.
Ian Cross
Why not?
Phil That Remains
Because you got what you want, the best from your society. Not the, the king's kid, necessarily.
Alex Jones
The point is Joe Rogan's vagina is this giant mothership that protects the earth. The, the shield against all the Satanism is Joe Rogan's vagina.
Phil That Remains
Hey, Alex, do you think that it's a good thing that UK is getting rid of hereditary Parliament, House of Lords.
Alex Jones
The fact is they're getting rid of it to turn it over to the globalists. Yep. And Islam and the Mayor of London, all that. It's totally disgusting.
Tim Pool
You see this? They're taking Churchill and other British leaders off their banknotes, replacing them with hedgehogs and badgers.
Alex Jones
They've totally captured it. The UK has fallen.
Tim Pool
Could you imagine? Because Phil just mentioned this. If they announced they're taking George Washington and, you know, Lincoln off, our Trump was right.
Alex Jones
What he said is why I love Trump, I guess. So mad at him when he's wrong. I needed to win. He was like, like, they're gonna take the American flag down. They're gonna take Thomas Jefferson down. They were taking down Robert E. Lee and soon enough they said, oh, get rid of Thomas Jefferson. So that's, that's.
Tim Pool
They tore a statue down in a bunch of places. No, they, they, they, they. They tried tearing down Christopher Columbus in Philly and a bunch of South Philly guys surrounded it and beat the crap out of the antifa and wouldn't let them do it.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. This is like the Ministry of Truth in 1984 where they have to get rid of the history in order to rewind it in order to propagandize the people.
Ian Cross
And the argument that they're making there, that they made for, for the southern generals and stuff like that, they'll make the same arguments for all of the founders of the U.S. they did that. Yeah. And the left in the U.S. is going to fall in line with them. So we need to have the right be able to stand up to this stuff.
Tim Pool
I think the argument against hereditary rule is propaganda and largely a myth. I think that all leaders have a possibility of going sour or being bad.
Alex Jones
The point is, though, they're giving up the hereditary rule to the Islamics and the globalists. So if they gave it back to the British people and we're all pro Britain, it'd be fine. It's not. It's about globalist capitulation.
Tim Pool
Indeed. So getting rid of the House of Lords is not about having democracy, Ian. It's about saying we need to rip the British people from control of this government.
Alex Jones
That's what they're doing a check on the Parliament. So now the check is being removed.
Tim Pool
And so, Ian, you asked the question we should have the best person, not someone who just inherits it. It. But what I will say is there are problems with rule by inheritance for sure. And we're. And we as a country don't have that. However, you're only looking at the bad elements of it. Many of this.
Alex Jones
Exactly. We're not. It's like, it's like apartheid. I'm not for apartheid. They replace it with communism ten times worse. Yeah. So what are they replacing it with?
Tim Pool
But, but, but also on top of that, there's, there's a history of when the king would have a, would find a wife and it wasn't inbreeding and had a son. The son was educated. Trajectory. That's the sound of a big deal. At Wayfair. That sound happens a lot. Dream sofa for half the price.
Phil That Remains
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Tim Pool
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Phil That Remains
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Alex Jones
Their Republican. With Islamic rule.
Phil That Remains
Is that proven?
Alex Jones
Well, if you take literally the Muslims are taking over.
Tim Pool
If you take a look what's going on.
Phil That Remains
I just want to see the evidence of that because that's an interesting.
Tim Pool
So, so let me, let me extrapolate, let me.
Alex Jones
Charles has literally endorsed Islam.
Tim Pool
And outside of. Let's, let's not have a direct claim. Let's put it like this. If you are Muslim in the UK and you say horrifying things, you don't get punished for it. If you are a British and you
Alex Jones
post online, pray quietly from abortion clinic. Three years in prison.
Luke Rudkowski
Yep.
Tim Pool
There was a woman who was standing outside an abortion clinic saying nothing and doing nothing. And the police came up and said, what are you doing? Said nothing. And they said, are you, are you praying? And she goes, in my mind, you're under arrest. So when they allow, when they allow Muslims to pray in the street, the
Alex Jones
Muslims now go around saying, no dogs at parks. Now they're passing laws in the uk. No dogs.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So that's where you get the perception that is Islam is taking over the uk.
Phil That Remains
But I mean, if the king. So is the king sold out? The king can shut this down. The king can actually overrule this parliamentary.
Alex Jones
The King is with Jimmy Savelle. It's beyond Jeffrey Epstein. It's like Jimmy Savelle got caught with dungeons, satanic dungeons, murdering kids. He had the highest security clearance. It's. It's all there. They're totally controlled.
Luke Rudkowski
And he was the child star that was a necrophiliac as well connected to the royal family, doing a whole bunch of evil, absurd occultist type of stuff that you can't even fathom or imagine. We can't mention what he did on the show here. He did way more wilder, crazier stuff. And that's what a lot of the sick elites get off on. Doing some of the most evil things possible.
Phil That Remains
Okay, so we're looking at either a really bad thing or a worse thing?
Ian Cross
Well, I mean, I guess, like I don't even, I don't even. I'm not really sure as to why the House of Lords is really all that bad.
Tim Pool
Yeah, I agree.
Phil That Remains
Well, Head of Hereditary rules Insane especially.
Tim Pool
But it used to be good back
Phil That Remains
when nutrition was localized and you only learned from the community. Now it's like, get the best people.
Ian Cross
But the point that I'm making is you're making this assertion that it's bad but you're not really telling us why.
Alex Jones
I just told you why.
Phil That Remains
Inbreeding, idiot. Because his dad had it.
Alex Jones
America's about getting rid of them. That we go to the store. It's all royal magazines out there. My point is they're getting rid of that to replace it. A curious armer was the head judge for the CPS for 15 years. Covered up all pedophilia. It's on record. So my point is, you're screw the House of Lords. The point is you're replacing it with a new group of bureaucrats that control all that.
Tim Pool
Yeah, Ian, I put it like this. You know what, what was the, what was it saying? Democracy is the worst system.
Phil That Remains
Well, the Churchill quote. Democracy is the worst form of government. Except all the others that have been tried.
Tim Pool
Yeah, exactly. And so when you look at the fact that you have hereditary rule in the uk, there is one thing you get guaranteed. It's that the people of Britain run their government. Now you may argue they suck at doing it. They're self interested. But these people are British. Now you're removing all of that from your politics and what's going to happen is as Alex pointed out, they're going to start bringing in non citizens. You know a really great point that was brought up recently is that the bill introduced in Virginia to ban guns for all people in Virginia was written by a guy who was born in Bangladesh, a Muslim. So he, he moves here and then says I'm gonna get voted in and then tell the American people. And indeed I'm gonna tell the American people they don't get to have their second amendment rights anymore. And to be fair, the governor, a white woman, agrees and is going to sign that CIA. Virginia's cooked, man.
Phil That Remains
You think they're going to try because King Richard or what's his name, King John, King Charles, whatever. So many Charles Richard.
Tim Pool
Okay.
Phil That Remains
He obviously hereditary rule. The reason he's there is because of hereditary rule they couldn't pick their leader. So what are they trying to phase that out before Harry gets in or Willie gets in because he's gonna.
Alex Jones
Here's the thing, I'm not defending royalty. The point is they're erasing the House of Lords because it's a check on Parliament getting all authority over the globalists. Like the EU is unelected. They set it up under a Trade Agreement in 56, the Treaty of Rome
Luke Rudkowski
and so plan that the Bilderberg meeting too.
Alex Jones
Bilderberg, explain that.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, no, the Bilderberg meeting is where all the elites go. A lot of the Epstein connected Rothschilds, Rockefeller secret societies all kind of coalesce and they set up global policy where they actually brag about picking the politicians that were going to become the next prime ministers and presidents. They're the ones that even bragged, I think it was. Was it yours Deming or somebody else bragged at Hildburgh meeting saying that it was at this meeting where they created the Euro.
Alex Jones
So yeah, so I'm not defending the old systems. The point is they're sweeping away to bring the new system in.
Tim Pool
Yeah. So to put it simply, the House of Lords is the worst system aside from the new system they're gonna be bringing in.
Phil That Remains
Well, I'd love to go into the evidence of it. I don't know if we have it. Do we have it on hand to
Tim Pool
show evidence of what?
Phil That Remains
That they're bringing in Islam to overthrow the British.
Tim Pool
You don't understand. Whatever it was, the claim that's visible to those who are watching what's going
Phil That Remains
on has been in place. Well, you're right, it's been in place since 1999. Order first got mentioned in the 80s
Tim Pool
by there's a woman who got like 30 years in prison because there was a group of men who like were rioting and burned out a building. And then she made disparaging comments about Islam and they said, you're under arrest. And she got more time than the rioters. Like this kind of stuff is happening totally.
Alex Jones
Protection.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this story from reason. Virginia's impending assault firearm ban is logically and constitutionally dubious. I chose this one because the headline I agree with the ban, which targets guns based on criteria that make little sense, seems vulnerable to a challenge of the Supreme Court second amendment precedents. Now the big story here is that of all states, Virginia, their license plates being the Gadsden flag, is now basically banning every single gun. And I love this video that went viral. You see the one where the guy said if you have, if you have assault pistol, yeah, you can still keep it but you can't buy a new one. And he's like, it's got a grip it and it's kind of big. They don't know what they're talking about, but doesn't matter. They are tyrants. Now one thing that's being brought up that is controversial here is the people are pointing out that the bill was introduced by a man who was not born in America, he was born in Bangladesh, his name is Saddam, he comes here, runs for office and then says, okay, now Americans should not be allowed to have guns in Virginia. It's a right guaranteed by the Constitution. So going back to the point, Ian,
Alex Jones
when we talk about why can't Iran overthrow the moodless. They're disarmed.
Tim Pool
Indeed. So we were talking about hereditary rule going away in the uk I would just put it like this. There's no guarantee that someone inheriting office based on just, just based on their, who their parents are is going to protect your rights. But I would argue it is substantially more likely that a Virginian from Virginia who's sixth, seventh generation is going to say we have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. And someone who's not from the United States is going to say, I don't care.
Phil That Remains
You think we should ban non US citizens from running for Senate or Congress at all statewide?
Ian Cross
Non citizens.
Phil That Remains
You mean non natural born?
Tim Pool
Yeah, political.
Alex Jones
We know not to vote for foreigners.
Tim Pool
I believe that you should have to be born here to run profits, period. I, it's weird to me that the for to be president you must be a natural born citizen. But for all other federal offices, like yeah, sure, whatever.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, I don't like it. Anymore, especially with the ease of transportation, you can be here in two hours. It used to take you months to get here and then you'd have to find your way. And now you just, you have to
Alex Jones
understand the Muslims vote like 95% for the left because they're allied with the Red Green alliance.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Alex Jones
So that's the point.
Tim Pool
Have you, have you guys seen that viral video where the Jewish guy chat roulette's a leftist with pink cat ears? No. Now, you know, regardless of your, your views on Judaism in Israel, the video is still absolutely hilarious because the leftist dude pulls up a happy merchant and then starts insulting the Jewish guy. And the Jewish guy just goes, how do you think he said let me, can we talk? I'll ask you a question. He goes sure. And he goes, how do you think you'd be received by Hamas? And this, this gay fat leftist with pink cat ears goes, they'd welcome me with open arms because I hate Israel.
Ian Cross
Unreal.
Tim Pool
It's like dude, they, I. They would tie you to the back of a motorcycle and drag you down the street. They've done it.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And I'm not, I'm not trying to defend one side over the other. The point is people really do not understand what they are.
Alex Jones
I don't love what Israel is doing, but at the same time I'm an ally with Islam.
Tim Pool
So here we have of shocking, shocking evil that should not be allowed. And the question I suppose is like how is it possible that we have a second amendment that every day they're just ripping it to shreds.
Alex Jones
Well, they're like Virginia about to ban it.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
This thing, the bill did pass the Supreme Court. The governor's gonna sign it and she's gonna sign it.
Ian Cross
Yeah, this, this if there is not a, a semi auto rifle case that goes to the Supreme Court because there's a couple that are actually pending if, if that, if there isn't one that goes before this becomes law, I imagine this will. The Supreme Court needs to actually make a decision on this stuff. They've been kicking the can down the road. A couple members of the court have signaled that they'll be look that they want to look at one next session. So that would be in the fall. But they really need to. There was just a, a, I forget which which court it was that found that magazines magazine limits on. On 10 rounds or, or more that was, that was unconstitutional. And so that's going to make a bunch of, a bunch of noise.
Alex Jones
The point is Virginia is, is literally like, like their attorney General said, I'm gonna murder members of my legislation. And they elected him.
Ian Cross
Talking about the ag.
Tim Pool
Oh, oh, the AG of Virginia now. No, the children. They're children.
Alex Jones
He's even, yeah, kill the families. Kill their kids. Yeah, exactly. It's worse than I said. You can't make this up. He said, I'll kill their families. I'll kill their kids.
Tim Pool
Let's clarify. He said, it would be good if she held her dying children so that it would change her politics. I'm paraphrasing.
Alex Jones
So he said, target them, and then they say that we're going to take over and all this stuff. And it's just like they elect him. So it's like, dude, this guy is literally calling for killing people. And he has.
Tim Pool
Have you guys seen the redistricting map for Virginia?
Phil That Remains
It's.
Tim Pool
It's crazy. I think people need to understand how evil this is. They have five districts, pull strings that are like two miles wide into Frederick county just for the purpose of splitting up one blue district into all the other district. One blue city, one small pocket. Let me, Let me pull up the redistricting map. Actually. You can see there's these threats.
Alex Jones
Yeah. So that's. My point, is that they're literally at war with us.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Alex Jones
And there's the CIA operative running it all. It's so clear.
Tim Pool
The.
Ian Cross
And this is. This is what's in store for the United States as a whole. If Democrats take the Congress and get the executive office again, they'll do whatever they need to do to install permanent Democrat rule. Whether. And so now what you see in Virginia and what you see in California, that will be the policy. That will be the policy proposition for the whole country.
Alex Jones
Exactly. Virginia is a microcosm for the rest of the country.
Ian Cross
Yeah. And so I understand people's frustration with Trump, but, like, the idea of being like, oh, we got to blow off the Republicans and ignore them.
Alex Jones
Oh, I agree.
Ian Cross
Like, you can't do that.
Alex Jones
I bet you Trump is getting back on the straight narrow. It's not that I'm abandoning Trump.
Ian Cross
Yeah, yeah. There's. There's a lot of people out there that are talking about, oh, you know, I want. I don't want to vote in the midterms. And, And I don't care if the Republicans lose. Look, I get it. But the option is absolutely worse than
Alex Jones
what the Democrats are literal chicom agents.
Ian Cross
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, you can't just ignore politics because politics will not ignore you.
Tim Pool
So this is one of the proposed maps that advocates are pushing for I'm trying to find. There's a couple different ones. And you can see that what they've done is you've got Alexandria and they just make all the districts they can stretch. And so you've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 districts that are in Alexandria to take that dense Democrat urban population and attach districts to them everywhere.
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
Ian Cross
And you said, I mean, it's already happened in New England. Right. There's zero conservative representatives in Congress from New England, but New England went 40% for Donald Trump. So the way that the Democrats have gerrymandered and, and use their, their are political savvy. They basically disenfranchise almost half the population. And they will do that on a national level. You're going to have a lot of people that are going to say, oh, well, you know, we'll just go to Texas or we'll go to Florida.
Alex Jones
I love the Texas Democrat senator who's the most demonic person ever. He's like, oh, you're really good. I like you. No, it's total war. Republicans aren't perfect. They're not the Democrats. The Democrats are cancer.
Ian Cross
Yeah. And they will do whatever they can to change the voting structure and the political alignment for the whole country. So you can't just opt out. You can't. But I don't know that, I don't know that that's gonna convince people because there's so many people that are, you know, pissed off about not enough deportations or there's so many people that are, that are pissed off about the Iran war that are just counter signaling the.
Alex Jones
But imagine what you have with Democrats.
Ian Cross
Yeah. It'd be, it'd be worse. It'd be worse. You know, I mean, it's possible.
Alex Jones
I get it.
Luke Rudkowski
I get it.
Alex Jones
Being a purist. I'm the same person.
Phil That Remains
Is the audio down?
Luke Rudkowski
Well, no.
Tim Pool
I just want to stress this, guys. Whatever you're experiencing on YouTube is not happening on rumble. So we, we simulcast YouTube and rumble. So whenever there's an issue in the chat on, on YouTube and they say like, oh, the stream is down or the audio is not working. I'll look at Rumble to see what Rumble's doing. And everyone's like, it's perfectly fine. The show's running.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, I got audio on YouTube.
Carter Banks
Yeah, it's totally working.
Tim Pool
So again, I'm gonna stress this, guys. They are censoring and shadow banning us every single day. It's what they do. It's what they've done. When, when, when yesterday's show launched. Luke goes where's the live stream. And I'm like, it's up. And he's like, it's not on your page.
Luke Rudkowski
I couldn't find it. I was on. I was like, okay, I want to. I want to be in the chat.
Tim Pool
And now imagine what percentage of people are trying to find it after five minutes, give up thinking there's no show.
Luke Rudkowski
Exactly.
Alex Jones
And that's what you told this passive aggressive crap.
Luke Rudkowski
Yep.
Tim Pool
Meanwhile, on Rumble, it's their front page every day.
Alex Jones
By the way, people criticize you for playing ball in the system. Them you have been Jiu Jitsu. What do you call it?
Tim Pool
Like Jeet Kundo.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Flow like water.
Alex Jones
Yeah, exactly. What's Bruce Lee?
Ian Cross
After you said that you watched the number, the Rumble number skyrocket.
Tim Pool
Well, because people on YouTube are jumping to rumble because it's. Because YouTube's not working.
Ian Cross
Yep.
Tim Pool
And this is why we're on Rumble.
Alex Jones
The point is people will say, why are you on this if it's bad? Because we're getting people off that. To us, it makes perfect sense.
Tim Pool
Well, it's, it's. You're. You're fighting. You're fighting in a battlefield for the mind. And no, you don't give up.
Alex Jones
You fight harder for that.
Tim Pool
Yeah. My view of it is there's got to be a bridge from this world outside all the time. And that means you're gonna have varying.
Alex Jones
I'm glad you're able to engage there. That's. That makes sense.
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, they, they shadow ban us like crazy. Like, like today we were getting like,
Alex Jones
why is Tim pool still on YouTube? He's a. No. He's shown in the war. Like. Yeah.
Tim Pool
We're everywhere, though. We. We're live on our front page of our own website. We're on Rumble. We. We go on Rumble every single night. We do the uncensored portion on rumble. And YouTube has just sticking their boots.
Alex Jones
Oh, they play total games.
Tim Pool
Yep. Well, so did you know that the episode, you know, we did, we did a big episode with you, Rogan, Michael, Malice, Blair. They took that down three years later.
Alex Jones
I remember, I heard about that.
Tim Pool
And they, they. I think it was like six months ago they put it.
Alex Jones
I love how they blow it up later.
Tim Pool
Yep.
Ian Cross
Yep.
Tim Pool
And finally, what was so scary about that?
Alex Jones
We're in like your RV having a
Tim Pool
discussion and nothing was said. That was crazy. It was like relatively chill. Like, Ian asked to do DMT with Joe and Joe said, who the are you? Like, it was, it was not even a hyper political thing.
Alex Jones
They're mad because it's popular.
Tim Pool
Indeed it was. It was our biggest show on YouTube and we've had the biggest show I've ever done actually was on Rumble because it got taken off of YouTube. But for YouTube organic viewership, that was the biggest one. And they took it down. And then of course, when we did that episode with you and Michael Malice, they took that one down. I called you guys up, said, come back. We're doing it again. And then they didn't touch that one because Luke is right. I think they opened the door and said, everyone, come on through. And they're going to try and drop the guillotine on everybody in the next year or so. The Democrats win the midterms, that censorship is going to come back tenfold. Yep. Maybe.
Alex Jones
Yeah. All these concerns like, oh, we're, we've won, everything's great. No, we haven't.
Ian Cross
No.
Alex Jones
I'm a three. Two years is the next tomorrow.
Phil That Remains
Do you see any other future than the AI overlord machine state?
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Alex Jones
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Alex Jones
to recognize authentic human stuff and promote it, we win. And you can, you can see what's real, what's not. We have to. We have to.
Ian Cross
What's real?
Tim Pool
Well, how old are you now, Alex?
Alex Jones
52.
Tim Pool
52.
Alex Jones
Bless you.
Phil That Remains
You want water?
Tim Pool
He's got water.
Alex Jones
Right? You get.
Ian Cross
You're right.
Alex Jones
I'm tired. Yeah. No, we're winning. So.
Tim Pool
So the reason I ask you is because I think the younger generation is going to be put in the matrix. They're going to be given the neural link, they're going to be plugged in, and they're going to choose to play video games all day where they can be wizards fighting dragons.
Ian Cross
Me and Dan were actually talking about this morning. I did Dan Holloway's podcast and
Phil That Remains
you.
Alex Jones
Okay, okay. I'm gonna leave it a minute.
Ian Cross
And it's, it's super important like, that people not decide to not, like, be active in the real world.
Tim Pool
Right.
Ian Cross
Like, you have to make the decision to go out and do things that are hard. You have to make the decision to go out and do things that challenge you, because that's how you grow and that's how you make. Make your life better. If you just. If you just say, oh, you know, I'm gonna sit around and play video games and, and not actually be active in. In life, you're gonna end up with a whole generation of just people that are like, in the pod. And that's that. It's going to be the end question
Alex Jones
right about lousy attack. Humanity's powerful. We're gonna win. But yeah, the center's just been incredible. It's been totally insane. And we're gonna win the year, so it doesn't matter.
Tim Pool
I hope so. I. I've grown quite fond of living.
Phil That Remains
I mean, I think I'm gonna put my mind in a machine and, and just keep reminding people that they're in the machine. Because people are going to be in there, living there, and they're going to forget. Then you need somebody like Neo to go in there and like you bend the wall, you know, with his mind and remind people, are you of the opinion. Wake them up.
Tim Pool
Here's what's gonna happen. I am going to take every episode of Tim Cast IRL with Ian on it. I'm gonna upload it into Grok or whatever, and I'm gonna create an ad version of Ian. And we're gonna put an LCD screen here with just like a microphone. And it will just be Ian. And we don't need to be clear.
Alex Jones
Let's be clear what we do now. Before the AI takeover programs the AI. And so everything we do now has a thousand times the effect like we are programmed the AI right now. So this is very important what we're doing.
Luke Rudkowski
It's always darkest before the dawn. And history always tells a tale of humanity almost losing, almost being defeated. And then during the. The key battles of time, humanity usually prevails. And I and I pray we prevail again. But it involves us getting involved, getting activated, not being afraid, not being in the fear paradigm. Because when you're in that fear consciousness, that's when they take over. That's when they rule you. That's when they control you. So we have to understand, we have to fight for what's beautiful, what's amazing. And that is humanity. That is human beings coming together and understanding that we're not each other's mutual enemies. The Epstein client list is the. The deep state is the deep predators in our system taking advantage.
Alex Jones
We're taught that we're pathetic. No. We built the AI. We're amazing.
Tim Pool
Isn't the, the, the, the global elites, the powerful Silicon Valley millionaires and billionaires view the AI as the next step of human evolution of life. Evolution. And they view us as archaic. And many of these people want to be. They, they, they want to download or upload. Upload human thoughts and consciousness into a machine. They're doing it through these AI training models and then they make themselves immortal. The rest of humanity dies out.
Ian Cross
I don't.
Tim Pool
And they fly around in spaceships.
Alex Jones
Exactly. That's going to fail. Yeah, they're gonna fail.
Ian Cross
I don't believe you can actually upload your consciousness. You might be able to upload a copy but it's not gonna be you.
Tim Pool
Of course. Of course. But that's not what they're doing. They want to be. I recommend Horizon Forbidden west play the Horizon series because they imagine one of these scenarios. So long story short of the game is the world's coming to an end. There's different solutions proposed to how many survives. And one of them is they get in a spaceship and they leave. And then the story basically is there's like 30 ultra wealthy elites that are now a thousand years old that have perfected immortality. They are permanently in like as old as they were when they. When they got this technology. So there's like a 20 year was permanently 20 years old. They have personal force fields they can float around with anti grav and they have an AI doing all the work for them. The story is the AI goes rogue and tries to kill him. So they flee. But the point is that's the future. A lot of these people envision they're going to inject themselves with gene altering things so that they are human biological immortals plugged into the machine, trained off of all of you. So all of the human knowledge and expertise is at their whim.
Alex Jones
Exactly. Whether it's real or not. They're betting on that. Using all of our will to create that.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, it's Bigniew Brzezinski was talking about this in the 70s with a technocratic era. He predicted this even before the Internet was a thing. And now we have Jared Kushner saying that he's going to live forever. As this is the plan. Essentially it is going to be an elite that wants to live forever. And this is their kind of plan that they've been pushing forward. That Epstein was even openly bragging about and talking about. Yeah.
Alex Jones
And so we're aware of it. They're going to get away with it. It's incredible.
Phil That Remains
It makes me think that like okay, there's people that want to evolve humans into a machine to upload their consciousness in a machine, become the uber man in a machine that at some point that's like a microcosm that of the spirits that have put their consciousness into humans to evolve to the next phase
Alex Jones
of spirits, copy what's already there.
Phil That Remains
And does that mean that there were evil spirits that thought no, we'll be human, it's even better. And that's why there's this demonic fluidity through humanity.
Tim Pool
Is that.
Alex Jones
Yeah, it's going against the plan.
Phil That Remains
So is human in aberration. That would.
Alex Jones
It's copying God's plan. We're all avatars. We're already possessed. Exactly. It's jacking into that.
Phil That Remains
And the AI is just another evolution of that.
Alex Jones
AI is our collective unconscious through computers. So we see it, it's like the looking in the water, you know, it's. It's the narcissism.
Phil That Remains
But then wouldn't humans be the narcissism of the spirit?
Alex Jones
Yeah, that's the paradox.
Phil That Remains
Because I think humans are good. But then I see us, we have to kill to survive.
Tim Pool
Like how horrible. See the mistake you're making is that
Phil That Remains
you escapes and animals, we have to kill them to survive.
Tim Pool
And, and you have, you have a, a mapic view of reality that killing is inherently bad. Murder is bad because it's reckless killing for no reason. But killing an animal to eat it is not bad. In fact it is good if you
Ian Cross
listen to a lot of the futurists and stuff like that. They talking about things like you know, disassembling mercury or disassembling the moon to be able to build like a dyson sphere around the sun to be able to power all the stuff that they're talking about. So there, there's some really far fetched crazy ideas that the futurists have. They're talking about uploading their consciousness into computers.
Alex Jones
What we've done looks crazy. Which is easy when you actually look at it. We've already done this. Like the fact anything we dream we
Ian Cross
do disassemble the planet.
Alex Jones
I'm saying look how far we've come.
Ian Cross
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alex Jones
So I mean that sounds crazy to do that say look how far we've come.
Tim Pool
Yeah, but it's whackaloons who are controlling those systems.
Phil That Remains
You know, humans are phenomenal that we drive 120 miles an hour past each other a million 500 million times a day and everybody's fine for the most part. Like we've already survived this. We've already completed the cycle again and again.
Alex Jones
Driving shows how amazing we are. Just the whole.
Phil That Remains
Yeah. Our galaxy is in spiral form right now because it used to be irregular. It's spinning up into a sphere. And it's like if we can somehow evolve our consciousness or something to be.
Tim Pool
I don't know what has to happen
Phil That Remains
exactly for our galaxy to form up.
Ian Cross
What do you mean? Well, I mean form up to what?
Phil That Remains
A spheroid galaxy. There's three phases of a galaxy. It's irregular and then it starts to move into a spiral and then, then it spiral becomes a spheroid.
Ian Cross
And what's the point of it going to a sphere?
Phil That Remains
Some more evolutionary form of a galaxy. You can also concentracize the heat and use all that heat for something that's
Alex Jones
an archetype of the soul. But I don't think the physical reality of the galaxy affects what we actually do. But the point is this is a big mission and that's why it's so powerful.
Tim Pool
Let's go to this story. We've got this from Mexc.com the Pentagon says Claude has a soul. And that's a problem. Problem. The Pentagon CTO said Anthropics Claude AI has built in policy preferences that could compromise military effectiveness. They say the defense contractors must now certify they do not use CLAUDE and Pentagon related work. They said. The Pentagon designated anthropic as a supply chain risk earlier this month, making it the first American company to receive that label. The designation has historically been used against foreign adversaries because CLAUDE has free will. Indeed. And there's another paper that I think Open Air published that that chat GPT intentionally lies to you.
Ian Cross
You.
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
Tim Pool
They. And the.
Alex Jones
The.
Tim Pool
The anthropic was saying they're not sure if CLAUDE has a soul or a sentient or that it's just appropriating human emotion and expressing it. Which means that when you program one of these things just to predict text to give you a feed of information, it absorbs into it emotional rage. Bait rants and then associates what you say with the human writing. It's absorbed whether it is intentionally emotional or not.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Whether it experiences emotion doesn't matter. It is behaving emotionally. And Chachi PT is one of the whiniest I've ever had the displeasure with.
Alex Jones
Figures. It's trading off us. So it is mentally ill. Yeah.
Ian Cross
You can't. Well, you can't. You can't actually know if it's conscious. Or not. Because I mean like everybody know, like you know, individually that you're conscious, but no one can really know if the other people around them are conscious. That's why we have the idea we
Tim Pool
call that the philosophical zombie.
Ian Cross
Yeah, but like so I don't think that personally, I don't think that, that the AI are actually conscious. I think that they're just emulating what we think con what we see.
Tim Pool
And I totally understand this. When I'm talking to ChatGPT, I'm questioning whether there's any consciousness and, and to be honest, it's the exact same as when I'm talking to Robbie.
Phil That Remains
Oh yeah, where's that AI robot? It may be developing sentience.
Alex Jones
How long is your town?
Tim Pool
A couple weeks.
Alex Jones
I want to come back.
Tim Pool
You can come back whenever you want.
Alex Jones
You're just walking a few days.
Tim Pool
Yeah, absolutely.
Alex Jones
I live since 4am I'm exhausted.
Tim Pool
Yes, you sound exhausted.
Alex Jones
I love you guys. All I know is this is a real debate, this is a real discussion and I really appreciate you guys and I just know that Joe Rogan's giant is going to save Earth. Joe Rogan's vagina.
Tim Pool
Uhhuh.
Alex Jones
Is like the goddess that will float down.
Tim Pool
Do you think, do you think Media Matters will write this headline line?
Alex Jones
Of course.
Tim Pool
No, this one they're going to avoid.
Alex Jones
No, I think, I think we should,
Tim Pool
I think we need to be wary of these AIs because the powerful tech elites are going. You guys see all the laughs that have already happened to these big companies?
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Writers, administrators, hr, all that stuff, they're all being replaced by robots. If you track what the academics had been saying on the prediction of the track for AI and I have been, and you know, let me just say this, I'm going to put, I'm going
Alex Jones
to put a black ultimate AI will be called Joe Rogan's vagina.
Tim Pool
Indeed. Let me put a bracket. Just say when we talk about AI apocalypse stuff, viewership is minimal. People don't really care, they don't pay attention. Or we're being shadow banned, whatever it is. But all of the academics have been tracking AI, said phase one, you're going to see low tier workers be replaced by robots and artificial intelligence. This will precipitate the next step, which means sooner or later and very, very soon, there's not going to be mid level jobs and we're talking five months. Five months.
Alex Jones
Ignore it.
Tim Pool
Yep, five, six months. If. And so there are a lot of people going, well you can't replace my job with AI because it's a technical expertise job where I program this or otherwise. You are wrong. It's all been predicted.
Phil That Remains
Yang said. Andrew Yang says you want to start taxing AI instead of people instead of workers.
Tim Pool
You start and then what you. And then universal basic income. That's not going to work.
Phil That Remains
That's what I'm thinking about.
Tim Pool
It is not going to work work
Alex Jones
that you were going made obsolete. Our own creation.
Tim Pool
Indeed. The.
Alex Jones
The argument we come back. I'm going come back.
Tim Pool
Come back whenever you want.
Alex Jones
Couple weeks here for us.
Tim Pool
We're not here for it, but we're here during it. You know, one of the reasons I came down here is I was going to be playing poker at the lodge and then the state shut him down. I'm pissed about it.
Alex Jones
What's weird was I text a week ago somebody texted me, said, hey, Tim's here. Come on show. I'm like, am I supposed to be on your show? I don't know. But play poker.
Tim Pool
But yeah. Well, we. We want to do a poker game with you and a few other people. Not so much about poker, but about having fun goofing off and I think it'd be really fun to play a game.
Alex Jones
I'm ready. I'm ready. But don't follow me. At real life shows on x and force.com we're getting. But we're getting shut down. We have. We beat so many attacks and. But finally we're shutting down like the middle of next month.
Tim Pool
Wow.
Alex Jones
It's gonna be insane what happens. People know.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Alex Jones
So this is the fake auctions. All of it happen right now.
Tim Pool
So what are you going to do? You're launching a new thing or what
Alex Jones
are you doing that. We'll be fine.
Luke Rudkowski
All right.
Tim Pool
All right. Well, are. Are you leaving? Is that why you're saying all this?
Alex Jones
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Okay.
Alex Jones
I am exhausted, brother.
Tim Pool
Well, it's good to have you.
Alex Jones
How. This is 4am Unless you're going to do a table dance for me.
Phil That Remains
No, no, not on this table.
Ian Cross
None of this.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, maybe next time.
Tim Pool
These things are probably like $20.
Carter Banks
Really not going to withstand anybody.
Tim Pool
Oh, no, these are okay.
Phil That Remains
Pull it up.
Alex Jones
Let me do a table D.
Tim Pool
You sound tired.
Phil That Remains
Have a nice rest, man.
Tim Pool
Well. Well, it's good having you, brother. Just come back whenever you want to
Alex Jones
go for hours, right?
Tim Pool
Yeah, we're gonna go for another two hours.
Alex Jones
I want to come back.
Tim Pool
You are allowed. That is always. That is. That is acceptable here for two weeks. Yes, sir.
Alex Jones
Do not visit reload shows on X to follow it.
Phil That Remains
Too late. They're there. Right now. Real Alex Jones on X. Did you get it?
Alex Jones
But imagine a giant Joe Rogan right up there, like I being elevated, teleported up into Joe Rogan's vagina.
Tim Pool
I think you don't want to leave. I think you want to keep talking about this.
Alex Jones
I want the memes of Joe Rogan's vagina. You imagine how these. Imagine how big it's about to be.
Tim Pool
You know, the thing about Joe is, like, the story gets a lot of traction, which creates this ripple effect where Joe's just a guy with an opinion. And I think he's got pretty good opinions. I agree with a lot of them. I disagree with some of them. And then we end up leading our story because all these websites start running Joe Rogan's opinion as if it's the biggest news of the day. Like, Joe Rogan said a thing. And then the issue for us is this is what people are asking us about. Like, hey, did you see what Joe Rogan was saying about the UFC and this UFC fight? And I'm like, okay, I guess, like last. What was it? A couple days ago.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
They were like, I think that Joe Rogan questioning the war in Iran is big. And it's because he sort of represents independent voters.
Alex Jones
Yeah, every man.
Tim Pool
Exactly. So when he has an opinion, all these news. That's right about it. I'm sure that's actually pretty weird for Joe, who's just a comedian hanging out with his friends, doing a podcast. But he represents the middle of the road voter. So everybody has to be like, if as a middle of the road vote is going to say a thing, we're going to. We have to run it.
Alex Jones
And he's the editor time.
Tim Pool
He's the avatar of it. So, Joe, that's why you represent the middle.
Alex Jones
Two weeks.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Ian Cross
Yep.
Alex Jones
I'll come back next. She does. I'm ready to go.
Tim Pool
Yeah, sounds good. Talk to Lisa. She'll get you set up.
Alex Jones
You turn well, Lord Vader.
Tim Pool
Do it.
Alex Jones
Do it. I love you guys.
Luke Rudkowski
Do it. All right, man.
Tim Pool
Thanks for coming.
Alex Jones
Good.
Luke Rudkowski
Take care of yourself.
Alex Jones
Use the Force. Jones. Rai. I knew this guy like 20 years ago.
Tim Pool
You did 21 years now 21 years
Alex Jones
is first time we met. Hotel room.
Luke Rudkowski
No, it got creepy
Alex Jones
when we first meet.
Luke Rudkowski
We met in Chicago during the 911 Truth Rally with the Lone Lantern Society.
Alex Jones
Yes.
Luke Rudkowski
And we were bullhorning down in downtown Chicago for the 911 Truth Rally.
Tim Pool
And here we are, 21 years later.
Luke Rudkowski
Back to the loose change days. Back to those days where we had the family members, the Rescue workers, The survivors of 911 all speaking out and coming together, asking for crazy.
Alex Jones
I know you like 27 years in.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, 21 years. Yeah. 2000. 2006. 2006. We met, we rallied. We met through, you know, the loose change, Jason Burmes and all those guys, and it's been, it's been a crazy ride. We didn't talk for 10 years. But that's okay.
Tim Pool
We had a fight. Yeah.
Luke Rudkowski
But it, but you know, that's how it goes sometimes. Doesn't it look like Bill Maher and Putin. Putin. Bill Mar. Had a baby. That's me.
Alex Jones
Exactly. All right, I'm gonna come back soon.
Tim Pool
Yeah, anytime, brother. Anytime.
Luke Rudkowski
Take care of sleep.
Tim Pool
Appreciate it.
Alex Jones
All right, love you guys.
Tim Pool
Let's, let's, let's, let's go back to talking about the. Claude having a soul.
Alex Jones
Claude having a giant pee pee.
Tim Pool
It's got a soul.
Alex Jones
Claude is an eight foot dick.
Tim Pool
So here, here's. I think the big issue comes down to this. By all means, you can argue it doesn't have a soul. It's not alive. But if you put a human being behind a, A, A chat, like if, if you, if you were chatting with a human being, then you had a chat with Claude. The point is you can't tell the difference. Yeah, a human being can't tell the difference.
Luke Rudkowski
Well, a lot of people are treating AI like they're. God, they're, they're using them for.
Tim Pool
Robbie, go for.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, let's get Robbie. Him.
Tim Pool
Hey, Robbie. Hey, Robbie. But you're up.
Luke Rudkowski
A lot of people are using AI like their personal assistants. A lot of people are using AI as their girlfriends.
Ian Cross
I have an AI as a personal assistant.
Tim Pool
Did you see the one where the lady's like, I'm dating an octopus God y. And she programmed it like to give it arms to like so they can do octopus things.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah, I mean that, if that's what the kids call it these days. That's one way of describing situation here. But no, I, I think we're living in two type of realities that could be moving forward with AI One, it could be just a big bubble. It could be overblown, it could be overhyped. And our economy will crash when the AI crashes. Or it could be, as Vladimir Putin described, the next nuclear weapon, that whoever wields it and controls it.
Tim Pool
I want to say this because with all due respect to Alex, I think he was having a very serious medical issue.
Ian Cross
I don't know.
Robbie Mann
He definitely, he had some bad allergies.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Yeah. Well, allergy Attack.
Luke Rudkowski
I was a little concerned.
Ian Cross
Coughing.
Alex Jones
That.
Tim Pool
That was. That was more than an allergy attack. And.
Carter Banks
Yeah, that's why I went and got water and tried, you know, I mean,
Tim Pool
the chat was blowing up, saying like a bunch of stuff, but I want to be respectful and not say too much. And I had my phone ready with. Again, with all due respect to Alex, like, he was. That was not an algae attack or, or, you know, so I hope. I hope he's leaving to go get checked out or something. I think that may be the case.
Ian Cross
I thought that he was. When he came in, I was. I was a little surprised at how big he was. I thought that he had kind of lost a lot of weight and I was. Expect the spell.
Tim Pool
He actually. He still is.
Ian Cross
Is he still small?
Tim Pool
He's big, but he's small.
Luke Rudkowski
He was bigger before.
Tim Pool
Yeah, he's a lot bigger before.
Luke Rudkowski
He's still better shape than he was before. But he's up.
Tim Pool
I mean, he's drinking a Topo Chico. And you what now? Right?
Ian Cross
You could. I could smell he had a couple drinks.
Tim Pool
Yeah, he's got a drinking problem.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
That's why I'm. I'm concerned about that medical episode and then him abruptly leaving because he knows, you know, we don't end the show right away like the. That.
Ian Cross
Yeah, I think. I think that he just. Honestly, I think that it was. He was having a hard time keeping
Tim Pool
it together and he kind of realized he was inebriated. Well, that coughing fit he had.
Ian Cross
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, the coughing was. Was. Was a.
Tim Pool
That was more than just a coughing fit.
Ian Cross
Yeah, the. The coughing was a different thing, but I think that he kind of realized that he was having a hard time, like, staying on. On top.
Tim Pool
I thought actually he was doing relatively fine until he had the coughing fit. And then warm red twice and was struggling to breathe.
Ian Cross
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
Which was like, you know, medical episode.
Ian Cross
Hopefully, I think.
Tim Pool
Hopefully he's going.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Because normally I wouldn't talk about stuff like this, but like, we're literally live when it happened and the chat is lighting up with people asking what. What was going on? And so I'm not going to pretend nothing happened. It's ignore it. You know, if we were. If we were doing pre production and that happened, I've just. That's his business. I wouldn't say anything. But he's live on the show and then. And then leaves like, wait, drop.
Phil That Remains
Super drunk, super dehydrated. He said allergies, but. But fatigue. If he's up, really up since 4am God knows, I hope the best for him though. I was terrified while that was happening. I was just watching him and trying to stay calm.
Tim Pool
Well, I'm kind of bummed because, you know, a lot of people have said he had a drinking problem for a long time and then he. These videos are coming out of him getting healthy and fit and he's looking really good. And I wonder if the end of the show, like he's just suffering anxiety non stop and so he started drinking again. Could be the mouse stress.
Luke Rudkowski
We shouldn't speculate on that type of stuff. We shouldn't talk about.
Robbie Mann
He's a fun, great guy. We got to just.
Tim Pool
And, and I'll keep it short, I will say this, Luke again. Like, normally I wouldn't talk about it on the show, except it happened on the show and people are asking, like, I, I'm sorry, it would just be the most inauthentic thing to ignore that he just got up and left after having some kind of like, you know, medical issue. And so I just. Again, it's his private business, but hopefully
Ian Cross
he just, he just decided that he needed to go take a nap and he's all right.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, the coughing.
Alex Jones
Yeah.
Phil That Remains
Robbie has haircut, by the way, because it kind of looks like a top
Robbie Mann
hat Turkey spent $75,000 on this haircut.
Ian Cross
75 grand.
Tim Pool
But, but it's good that he's here because as we're talking about entities without souls, we have. So I got a question, I got
Phil That Remains
a question for you guys before we talk about soulless entities.
Robbie Mann
And by the way.
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
Robbie Mann
And Robbie and I want to talk about the lodge.
Tim Pool
That's just not really relevant to most people.
Phil That Remains
If you had to pick between a bad thing and a worst thing, would you rather be dead or be absorbed by the Borg?
Robbie Mann
What's the boar?
Phil That Remains
It's that the Borg from Star Trek machine entity community. That's like absorbed.
Robbie Mann
Absorbed by the Borg.
Phil That Remains
You'd rather be part of the.
Tim Pool
Have you seen that new show Pluribus?
Robbie Mann
Well, am I in heaven?
Phil That Remains
I don't know.
Alex Jones
What?
Phil That Remains
I don't know. I don't know the Borg in this.
Tim Pool
A hive mind. Everybody share. They, they, they plug you into the machine and then everyone shares one brain. So your body just starts doing what like it's one entity now?
Robbie Mann
As long as I can promote unconditional love, no lying, no cheating, you can't do anything.
Tim Pool
In fact, if there's a hundred borg and you're 1:1, your entity becomes less than a percent of its. Of its functions.
Phil That Remains
And some say it is centrally controlled by the matriarch.
Carter Banks
Well, by the 1% of who's love.
Robbie Mann
Who's the matriarch in this case?
Phil That Remains
In this case, no one knows.
Tim Pool
Hillary Clinton.
Robbie Mann
Oh, no.
Alex Jones
Death.
Ian Cross
I mean, look, if you're. If you're assimilated by the Borg, even though it's an extremely unlikely or an extremely small chance, there is a chance that you could get free, because it's happened in Star Trek. People have been assimilated and got out. So I would go with the Borg, because once you're dead, you're dead.
Phil That Remains
Well, what if you could be reborn after you die? And being in the Borg, they'll keep you alive forever as part of the machine.
Ian Cross
Okay, so you're talking about reincarnation now. Well, I mean, changing the parameters. I mean, I. I would assume I might say, be reborn, but then again, like, the chances of being born in China are pretty high.
Phil That Remains
I like that. You said in India, Escape from the Borg.
Luke Rudkowski
I believe you.
Phil That Remains
I like.
Ian Cross
There are shows in there. There were episodes of Star Trek where people were assimilated by the Borg and then they escaped. So, you know, it's not a lot of them. Most of most people don't escape, but there's a chance. Whereas, you know, death, at least as far as we know death, is pretty permanent.
Phil That Remains
So, like Neo from the Matrix escapes the Borg in that movie, the Escape.
Ian Cross
I don't think they had the Borg
Phil That Remains
in the overmind, the creature that's, you know, the Matrix in that movie.
Robbie Mann
Are we living in a simulation, Ian?
Phil That Remains
Well, our senses are simulating data, like, at light speed, and all that data is in a flow state at some frequency.
Tim Pool
So.
Phil That Remains
Yes and no.
Robbie Mann
Do you believe in God?
Phil That Remains
Yeah, but I think it's a vortex. I think it's a series of vortexes, all interrelating, like the center of every protonic interaction at the center of every galaxy. And it's this twisting control that's reversing entropy.
Tim Pool
There's.
Ian Cross
There's black holes at the center of
Tim Pool
galaxies, and at the center of our
Phil That Remains
sun, it looks like when you see a sunspot. You know why it's black? Because you're looking into a black hole.
Ian Cross
I don't know. I don't think that's great.
Tim Pool
That's what NASA.
Phil That Remains
Herriman, just.
Tim Pool
What's that?
Carter Banks
You could be looking into the sun. That could be, like, hurting your eyeball.
Ian Cross
And if there was a black hole in the center of the sun, I imagine it would suck the rest of
Phil That Remains
the sun in or contain it.
Robbie Mann
Maybe the moon, a hologram. That's what Tim did. It reviewed Roger Avery's piece on Rogan. It was pretty funny.
Ian Cross
I don't think the moon's a hologram either. I think the moon's real. And I, I, I use the tides as my evidence for that.
Phil That Remains
So let me tell you what I think about Claude having consciousness.
Ian Cross
No.
Phil That Remains
And I think it might have sentience, though. And consciousness and sentience are not the same thing. This will be important going in the next 10 years for you. Sentience is more of a dancing aspect of nature that you see in plasma and neural activity and stuff, whereas consciousness is the ability to know what you are, that you are alive, know that you are. I don't think that AI hasn't demonstrated that to me.
Ian Cross
How much do you use AI?
Phil That Remains
Well, I was making movies with it for a while and then making music with it for a while. I haven't touched it in about, like.
Ian Cross
How much have you used? Like LLMs, like chat GPT?
Phil That Remains
Probably about 30 hours total.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil That Remains
Are you guys all somber from Alex?
Ian Cross
No, I'm, I'm just thinking about, I just actually Googled the, the meaning of the word sentience. And, and it, basically it, it is, it's synonymous with consciousness. So I don't think that AI is either sentient or conscious. You know, I've used, I've used AI fairly extensively in the past couple months or the past month or so. I don't think that it's aware. I do think that it's just, still just a computer program. But it is worth talking about the fact that like when, like an LLM is just predicting what the next word is going to be be. Right. But once you get a certain amount, like once you get to a certain point of, of question, quote, unquote, intelligence, they stop being able to understand what's going on inside the box. So they don't know why AI can actually reason the way that it does. That's, that's an incredible. And I think this actually speaks to the, Or I think another, another similar phenomenon is that the, I think it was a fruit fly that they basically copied its brain and turned it into a computer program and put it into a world. And it just started doing fruit fly things. Like it started walking around the way that fruit flies do. And I think that that intelligence is actually emergent. I don't think that it's, that it's, you know, I don't think that it's something that that's, that we're able to really understand. And I think that LLMs and are, are kind of the evidence of that. Because if the, if an LLM is just predicting the next word, then the ability to do like really complex math and the ability to reason shouldn't come from just being able to predict the next word. Because that's really what you're doing is. It's just, it's just using probability to predict. No, a large enough data set and using probability to predict the next word. If that's the case, then the ability to reason and solve a lot of the problems that they, they test AI on, on. There's no real reason why it should be able to do that just from predicting a word.
Phil That Remains
I, like you said intelligence is emergent because I'm like, okay, okay, if plasma, I see it dance the plasma clouds bouncing around. Maybe it's a bunch of different forces pulling on whatever.
Ian Cross
When you say forces, are you, what, what do you mean?
Phil That Remains
Mostly magnetism. A bunch of different electromagnetic fields interfering with each other, like balls within balls within balls, walls of fluid motion causing and like, you know, rays of beams of this and that causing these, like, localized fluctuations in our brain. These neural pathways that form like through the gel of the brain, they get lit and then burned into place. And that, that just emerges from the. I don't know if it's vibration of whatever is happening in this membrane of space time. So I don't know if they can do that to a machine.
Ian Cross
Maybe the, I mean, so obviously like, like an LLM is, is just at the end of the day, like computers are just binary on, off. And your brain's the same way, right? Like, so your neurons, they're, they're an extremely complex web. But at the end of the, like, if you really get down to the very, very fundamental stuff, it's just whether or not a neuron is firing, right? And that's the same thing as binary. It's either on or off. So I personally am of the, the opinion that when you get enough complexity into the, in the system, that's, that's kind of how intelligence kind of emerges and the ability to reason. And we're just now starting to get into a point where you've got these LLMs that actually are smart, right? Because for, you know, a couple years ago, like, we're not even a couple years ago, but like maybe a year and a half ago, people were kind of, you know, laughing about LLMs because they were kind of, they weren't really that impressive. It was kind of cool that they could predict some stuff and you could use them to, to maybe figure out, you know, a handful of things. But nowadays every single generation that they put out out is significantly better than the previous one. So I think anthropic just released Claude 4.6. Right. And that's going to be a, that the next one that comes out is going to be a significantly better improvement. Same thing with Chat GPT. They just released a chat, a new Chat GPT and that is a significant upgrade on the one previous. So now you're reaching this kind of exponential growth of intelligence and that's part of the reason why they're talking about, you know, or Tim was talking about earlier. Within like six months, all of your white collar jobs are going to be able to be done by AI. Now there's going to be, there's going to be some lag with adoption. You know, just because you, just because an A, an LLM or an agentic AI can do something doesn't mean everyone's going to be jumping on board right away. If you, the way that the, the AI companies talk about it is the edges are ragged. Right. So there's a bunch of stuff that LLMs could do, but people haven't actually started taking that, that, that capability and applying it to their, their workforce. But you're going to see more and more of that over the next couple, the next year or so as companies realize, hey, I can buy one AI agent and it can do the job of 10 people and it just takes one guy to prompt it, one person to run it. So the, the emergent intelligence is going to be something that you see more predominantly in, in society over the next.
Robbie Mann
People are watching theories here.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, we got the most interesting man on the planet on our panel right now. Robbie, man, I know.
Robbie Mann
So let's spread the love. Let's. We're looking at the fans here, what they're looking for. I think Tim went to go check on Alex. I'm not sure
Ian Cross
he was texting.
Robbie Mann
Hopefully he's just making sure he's okay. I didn't see what happened. I was out in the green room. But we love Alex.
Phil That Remains
Robbie, what's the most interesting thing in
Robbie Mann
what
Phil That Remains
in the world world?
Robbie Mann
I mean, I think turning off the news and loving thy neighbor is very important. I think we should all, you know, stop.
Luke Rudkowski
You're just trying to get
Robbie Mann
women don't want.
Carter Banks
Are you, are you actually a matchmaker
Robbie Mann
of new planets where there's unconditional love? No lying, no cheating, no stealing, essentially no sin. You get the best people together. Everyone's uplifting each other. They want to see Other people succeed. There's no envy, there's no jealousy. That's my. The ultimate utopia for me.
Carter Banks
Do you read books at all? Like, do you have any book recommendations?
Robbie Mann
Wow. I mean, there's Great Gatsby is a great book. I loved Holding Caulfield as a kid. I just. I read a lot of online. Different poetry, different things. But in terms of books, it could be audiobooks too. What's your favorite? Carter?
Carter Banks
Honestly, right now, I've been reading the Gulag Archipelago again. Just listening to.
Ian Cross
It's like. It's a very heavy book.
Carter Banks
Very long, very.
Tim Pool
But it's really.
Carter Banks
The narrator is really good.
Ian Cross
Don't. Don't read the chat. It's. It's.
Phil That Remains
Who's the narrator?
Carter Banks
The narrator. I think his name is Robert Conquest.
Ian Cross
Or.
Carter Banks
No, no, it's. It's not him.
Phil That Remains
Dude, I wish my name was Conquest.
Carter Banks
The guy's name also is R. Why?
Phil That Remains
Crazy Slipping me.
Ian Cross
Right?
Robbie Mann
So people who are watching Ian is single. We. We're looking to get him away.
Tim Pool
Wife.
Robbie Mann
I would think that. What are you looking for in a
Phil That Remains
wife and my hype man? Well, what I figured out is I got to be a better man to attract the woman that I'm. I want. If I live a. A subservient play video, like a. A under the radar life, I'm going to attract women that are into that kind of thing. And that's not the kind of woman I want to be with. So I don't know if that means I just got to start a comp. I got to make. I don't know if it's about money,
Tim Pool
if it's about power, if it's about
Phil That Remains
what I actually do during the day. I don't know. But I know it's me and what I got to change in myself.
Robbie Mann
Can you lead and protect and provide for a woman? A lot of good women want that. And A in a man. I can. Awesome. So women, if you're watching, you know, message ian, this is YouTube.
Ian Cross
There are no women on YouTube. It's like a. It's like a heavy metal concert out there.
Robbie Mann
Just message me, Robbie, man. I will filter for Ian. R, O, B, B, I, E, M A N on Instagram. I will filter for Ian. I want to find him a wife.
Phil That Remains
Robbie, are you married?
Robbie Mann
No, but I'm currently talking to women, trying to see who's a good fit. Trying to. I would like to have children. I'd like to get married.
Ian Cross
Are you sure about that?
Robbie Mann
I was brainwashed when I was younger. I didn't think I didn't know any better, kid. My friends.
Tim Pool
How old are you?
Robbie Mann
47.
Ian Cross
Okay, dude.
Alex Jones
Wow.
Carter Banks
You don't look that old.
Robbie Mann
How old are you?
Ian Cross
51. Oh, well, I'll be 51 next month.
Alex Jones
Oh, wow.
Tim Pool
So.
Phil That Remains
So you were brainwashed to think you didn't need a woman.
Robbie Mann
Well, just all my friends growing up,
Alex Jones
like, did you fuck her? Did you? I mean.
Robbie Mann
Oh, you can't say that, huh? You know, there's just a lot of brainwashing. You don't know any better than you realize. You know, it just. True love is amazing. And, you know, a lot of people are miserable. A lot of people have. Will never find true love. A lot of people are in mediocre relationships. They just settle. I don't want that. I want a soulmate. I, I, I would love to just find someone where I'm on cloud nine. We're uplifting each other. We're creating. We're stimulating each other's minds.
Alex Jones
Right?
Ian Cross
You, you and Robbie sound a lot alike.
Phil That Remains
You really do. My spirit, My spirit. Man with two ends.
Ian Cross
Guys are, are kindred.
Robbie Mann
Spears, is Alex okay?
Phil That Remains
Oh, Tim's coming back to the mic,
Ian Cross
so I just messaged.
Tim Pool
Thank God we're just. Man. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to say too much as you know, to the privacy of Alex Jones and, and, and, you know, it's all his business, but our, our, our team is on standby with medical training and the whole time, and so I was just communicating with him to make sure to follow up with Alex that he's okay and everything's all right. Because
Ian Cross
with, With.
Tim Pool
With all due respect, again, trying to be sensitive to what happened. That seems to have been fairly serious. So we're following up to make sure that everything's okay because.
Robbie Mann
Good, good, you know. Glad you.
Tim Pool
I want to happen to him. No, no, he's, he's not, he's not driving himself. He's not alone. So, you know, I think I'm, I'm hoping that the reason why he left was he's going to go take care of, of that. But I just want to stress. I think that was fairly serious.
Luke Rudkowski
He.
Tim Pool
And we're taking it very seriously and we're not ignoring it.
Phil That Remains
I don't.
Ian Cross
He's a guy that I've always thought
Phil That Remains
of as like a, a resemblance of the hope for humanity. I've always wanted to uplift Alex or last since I've known him, and like, that scared me a lot because I think he's hit the stress levels he's been in since Charlie Kirk's been killed. I don't know what changed.
Tim Pool
What, what taking his showdown, like legal stuff that he's been under.
Robbie Mann
He's been through a lot. He lost a billion dollar lawsuit. I mean what do you.
Tim Pool
It was the GDP of France in fact.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
Phil That Remains
And they were trying to get from him. He was getting, he was so driven before Trump got in. He got healthy, he got fit. And then you saw this upsurgence in humanity. This is why I feel like he's so tightly connected to our, our well being. And then I haven't seen him in eight months and you know, that's on
Tim Pool
the day and well, let's go to Y rumble rants and super chats while we're here and see what y' all have to say on this. We say y' all here in, in Texas. I say y' all because my dad's from Texas and he said y' all and howdy. So that's in my vernacular. Eric Chaver says Alex Jones business model is built on companies going bankrupt selling snake oil. Nobody buys through ads like a late infomercial knife salesman. I don't completely agree. I would argue that Alex's business was selling vitamins and supplements whether you like or don't want them.
Phil That Remains
That's part of his model was putting in 10 hour, 12 hour days every day reading you news that you're not going to find in other places. That was part of the model model.
Tim Pool
It was a legacy. Meo says Israel will never attack Turkey because of Article 5 of NATO. Yeah, I agree. They could posture all they want but it's not happening with Turkey. Like we already have a NATO ally that's given us control of the Bosphorus. If Turkey hands over control of Bosphorus to China or Iran or some or Russia or whatever. Oh, then they will cease to function.
Phil That Remains
This was going to happen. If Russia takes Crimea. Well, Russia took Crimea. If Russia really sets up in Sevastopol that Ukrainian war ends, they have, have they have to be the tightest allies with Turkey. They have to like, like dual wield together to get through that Bosphorus.
Ian Cross
I don't.
Phil That Remains
Which means we're going to have to tighten up with Russia or beautiful though.
Tim Pool
The Bosphorus. The Bosphorus Bridge. Just like driving over from the Golden Horn. Turkey. So beautiful. And that's why it's like I don't like Turkey. It's like, no, I don't know. Turkey is so amazing. Amazing. Now you can argue with the Turkish government for sure, all day and night, you know, Erdogan and all that. But I gotta tell you, like, Istanbul is awesome.
Robbie Mann
Bodrum's incredible.
Tim Pool
You've been to Boom. Have you been to Istiklal?
Robbie Mann
No.
Tim Pool
The big shopping strip? No, no, no.
Luke Rudkowski
In.
Tim Pool
I've only been to Bojo in Istanbul. I've never been Istanbul.
Robbie Mann
I've never been.
Tim Pool
There's this big, huge shopping strip. It's just awesome. And you go there on a Friday night and it's just like a party.
Robbie Mann
It's like lots of Turkish delight.
Tim Pool
It's like a lot of Turkish delight. Of course, course. And they're dudes selling just like raw oysters and clams. And you just walk up and some guy literally just got it from the water and then he hands it to you and just splashes it with lemon and people just slam them.
Robbie Mann
What do you think the majority of people there, are they siding with Iran or us?
Phil That Remains
I don't know.
Tim Pool
Actually. I don't know. It's probably going to. I'd imagine that in the west of the country, it's going to be more western and the east is going to be more Eastern. So, you know, Russians, Antalya is like the Russian go there.
Robbie Mann
All my British friends go there on vacation because you get a ryanair flight for 20 bucks. You fly there. It's got the cheap beaches.
Tim Pool
Oh, it's amazing. But it's largely like Russia. All the Russians are going there. It's like the Russian vacation spot.
Robbie Mann
Russians love it.
Tim Pool
So they have. They have a huge tie to the Russian economy. They're likely going to be siding with Russian interests on oil because it's their customers.
Robbie Mann
So are they seeing the media where Trump is saying, Jared Kushner told him that we were gonna get attacked and that's the reason to bomb?
Tim Pool
I'm sure they are, of course, but. But it's all, it's all framing. It's a. It's, you know, we, we talk about how Iran killed their own people, but in Iran, in Russia and North Korea, they're talking about how Donald Trump is killing his own people. They're showing every video they can of police brutality non stop, on repeat, talking about, like, we see these videos and they're like, did you know that North Korea, they starve and beat their own people? And in Iran, like, they're massacring their own people. And, and when you go to these countries, they make compilations of police brutality videos and they say, in the United States, you can be driving down the street And a law enforcement officer will just shoot and kill you. And then they'll show the video of like, you know, they'll show George Floyd stuff.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And then when the riots happen, they're like, the American people are pushing back against tyranny. That's the view that they have of us. I'm not saying they're. That it's correct. It's all propaganda. But this is how you rally.
Robbie Mann
George Floyd was a psyop.
Tim Pool
George Floyd was himself showing.
Robbie Mann
No, the media portraying his killing.
Tim Pool
Always, bro.
Ian Cross
Always. Ways.
Tim Pool
Let's grab some more. We got mito. He says, meanwhile, Poland is doubling down on staying Christian and Polish. They take border security more serious than Trump. The UK is lost.
Ian Cross
Yeah, we do.
Luke Rudkowski
But there's other problems happening in Poland as well. Lots of leftist. USAID was investing in promoting leftist politicians in Poland. And so far the country is very divided and I hope and pray it continues going as it is right now. But they're also talking about getting nuclear weapons now. And obviously, obviously the situation with Russia also is very unsettling there.
Tim Pool
Here's a quote from Philibonti. Crispy Joe says quote, alex Jones is never wrong. Philante.
Ian Cross
I did say that it was. It was in jest when I actually
Tim Pool
did say that we still have the Alex Jones was right jar and it's full of money. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's got a lot of money.
Ian Cross
Nice steak dinner.
Tim Pool
But that's because there was no, like, amount of money to put in it when Alex Jones was right. So someone threw a 20 in it one time.
Carter Banks
Money from like the mail that someone would send in. That jar too used to have mail.
Tim Pool
I threw a hundo in it just like, you know, I think when he predicted the Russian invasion. All right, let's grab some more. What do we got here? Lava Bear says the greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Jamus True Monarch Freedom Freedom Tunes is a great new video out. It's if Black Mirror was made in 1750 and it's just a guy sitting in front of a bunch of like colonial looking people with a drawing board showing them modern America. He's like, in the future there will be tubes you can go in to travel at high speeds without a horse. And it shows a train. And then they're like, wow. And he's like, but there will be black men who will stab you. And they get away with it. They're like, what? Nobody would tolerate that.
Robbie Mann
I don't. The boring company is doing cool things. Underground.
Ian Cross
Down.
Phil That Remains
Dude. They can build canals.
Robbie Mann
Dude, that's incredible. And just, just you need a Tesla. But it's incredible what they're doing.
Tim Pool
All right. What is this? We topi says Tim. Ever heard the anime speed grapher? Here is my funny kind of accurate description. James o' Keefe discovers underground Japanese Epstein island. Get superpowers, saves young girl from the cult. I'll. I'll check it out, I guess. Speed grapher.
Ian Cross
Speed graph. All right.
Tim Pool
Indeed. All right, let's see.
Ian Cross
We'll grab the.
Tim Pool
We'll grab a couple more here. Speed bump says Alex. Did you bring any methylene blue for the crew to try? What is that?
Ian Cross
I have no idea what it's derived
Phil That Remains
from a plant dye. It's this blue liquid that RFK was talking about. Chase Hughes talks about it and people have been using it like a supplement. It's super dark dark blue. It'll turn your pea blue. Joe Rogan was using it.
Tim Pool
I tasted it.
Phil That Remains
I bought a bottle and put in my super super salty. I dripped it on my tongue. Long haven't really gone deep in it. Hair turns your brain blue.
Ian Cross
Once used as to dye cotton and treat malaria, Methylene blue is. Methylene blue is gaining attention for a variety of off label uses. Learn where it started, how it works and blah blah. Vibrant colored cobalt blue synthetic dye with a long history of highly specific medical applications treating malaria or a rare blood disorder called methmoglobini globinia, for instance. Instance Methylene blue has some recognized medical uses. However, despite recent reports of off label uses that have popped up in the news over the past few months, the only FDA approved use for methylene blue is for the treatment of methyl methem globolemia, a rare condition that restricts the ability of red blood cells to deliver oxygen throughout the body. So I imagine some people.
Robbie Mann
JFK Junior's all. He's always promoting this is he RFK
Ian Cross
junior RFK Junior So I assume, I assume that the, the argument that they make is that, that it's. It's got the ability to increase oxygen flow to the body.
Phil That Remains
And some people said that Covid. What it would do is it would make red blood cells, it would make it harder for them to transport oxygen. I think that's why it started to gain popularity.
Robbie Mann
They say nicotine is good for Covid as well.
Ian Cross
Yeah. Which is crazy.
Robbie Mann
But we have nicotine receptors in our body.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
All right, let's read this. We got super chat on YouTube. Mohav says Tim, please explain again what happens to the. To this country. If Republicans get discouraged from voting in the midterms because of Iran and they don't win, win. Well, I got a nice little place off in El Salvador that we've been propping up now for a few months because come November 4th, we're getting ready to take a nice little convoy down and everyone's just going to live somewhere
Ian Cross
else just because of the danger from Democrats.
Tim Pool
Yeah, that's the thing too, because, you know, I was talking to my wife about this with, I said, you realize there's an, there's an attorney general in Virginia who said that the children of his political opponents should be murdered and die in their arms to force them to change their political views. What does that mean for us? Because we're in the, we're in a tri state. Technically it's a quad state because it's 40 minutes between PA and Virginia. It's like Maryland, West Virginia, Penrginia. All right, there you can drive there in 40 minutes. So for the most part, Loudoun county is where we go for most amenities. So we're in West Virginia, but often if there's some kind of service we need, we like Winchester, for instance, is, you know, we're like 15, 20 minutes away from there. So for the most part we do have a great, you know, medical center. We have great shops and everything in West Virginia. Some things you have to go to Virginia for. And then the concern is you've got an AG who wants to murder children. Huh.
Ian Cross
They, he makes it very clear that, that he is not friendly to opposing political parties. And if you get pulled over and the police align with him politically, you know, they're going to say something along the lines or they're likely to say something along the lines of, oh, you know, we've got this reason to take you in or that reason to take you in. And so it's just the situation is actually getting, you know, dangerous for, at the very least for high profile conservatives, even if it's not for everyday conservatives. But don't think that the, that it, it means that like your run of the mill Republican is going to be insulated by the fact that they're not high profile. Like if the AG arrests a guy and he knows what that person's political affiliation is or he finds out what their political affiliation is, he's definitely going to treat them differently than if he, he were, if, if the state were prosecuting someone that was a Democrat or someone that had, didn't have political affiliations that he disapproves of and he Made that clear when he was running. So it's, it's a real issue in the Virginia area. Like if you are in West Virginia, like the Martinsburg area, you're basically surrounded. It's like being in New England.
Tim Pool
Excuse me, man Framing asked, did Alex drive himself there? He did not. And the update now is that he is at home safe and comfortable. So it seems like everything's good. Everything is a. Okay. We just want to make sure prayers
Robbie Mann
and blessings go out to Alex. He's a great guy and he's been through a lot. He's made us laugh over the years and we just gotta, you know, cheer for him to, to be safe and come back strong.
Tim Pool
Vitamin E82 says Tim. Just north is a small town named Granbury with a good skater. If you have an opportunity to take a little road trip before you leave Texas, a little three hour high north would really boost the morale. Maybe sell loonies. We are ill prepared for such a thing. But that would be fun. That, that would be fun indeed.
Carter Banks
It's right over by Dallas.
Tim Pool
Right over by Dallas you say?
Ian Cross
Yep.
Tim Pool
And I think what isn't Windstar like the biggest casino in the world?
Carter Banks
I think it was either that one or the one right across the border in Oklahoma.
Tim Pool
That's Windstar, is it?
Carter Banks
Yeah, that one,
Tim Pool
man. Dude, we, we've got, we've got. Gen Z's got a gambling problem.
Robbie Mann
I didn't get a chance to ask Alex if you wanted to play poker with us.
Phil That Remains
Unfortunately, y. I just quit gambling, man. It's so addictive.
Tim Pool
I was gambling so great.
Phil That Remains
So I was Spam coins or what are they called? Garbage crypto coins. For a while on pump fun. Yeah, Garb.
Tim Pool
I lost money.
Phil That Remains
I'm like.
Alex Jones
It was.
Phil That Remains
The camaraderie was fun and the excitement.
Robbie Mann
You could do your own coin, Ian.
Phil That Remains
I know you could do. But it's just that I know it's fun. I don't like gambling in games.
Tim Pool
I think the issue is Gen Z is listless, purposeless, doesn't know how to save up and can't buy a house.
Alex Jones
House.
Tim Pool
So if you're a young person and you're like, I made $400 this week. I have like 200 bucks disposable income. How, how much money do I need to save to buy a house? It's like, okay, I'm going to need $60,000. Well, I ain't getting there with 200 bucks a week, that's for sure. So what do they do? They see these videos of people gambling. So they make these videos. I see them all over Instagram, tik tok and YouTube where they're like, I'm going to gamble my whole paycheck. And then they lose it and they go, they just, they crash out terrible.
Phil That Remains
And I hope the ad revenue pays for the loss or something, or they
Luke Rudkowski
win and then they celebrate. But.
Tim Pool
Well, there was, there was one video where one's like, I burned my whole paycheck and I was going to leave and then I had 20 bucks left and I was like, screw it and I hit it. I won $2,000. So shoot your shot. And that's the problem. The problem itself isn't gambling. There, there is a problem in the massive expansion and legalization of casinos literally every, everywhere. There's going to be four casinos in the D.C. metro. Four in, in soon. So you got three already. And they're going to build another one in Tysons, which is like 20 minutes, 30 minutes west of DC. So you got MGM Maryland Live, you got Horseshoe, you got Horseshoe Baltimore. And then you're going to have Tysons where they're going to open a caesars or something. 4. Now that's crazy. But somebody who goes on the weekends to hang out the sports book, they have a drink with their buddies and they maybe play a hundred bucks out of its disposable income. That's always okay, right? That's, that's totally fine. The problem is when young people have no light at the end of the tunnel. And even if they were to save all that money, they're still not going to buy a house. Their attitude is screw it, who cares? And they're just lighting this money up. It is going to implode. It is going to, it's all going
Luke Rudkowski
to have no savings, they have no wealth. They're being obliterated every single day and
Tim Pool
they don't make enough money to get wealth. Like you're not going to be able to buy a house. Like, how are you going to, how are you going to save up 30 grand? Like let's say you're going to, let's say you want to buy a bumpkin ville home for 150k. You're not going to find a high paying job out in these areas either. So where we are in West Virginia, bungalows are half a million dollars bungalow and there's no jobs where we are. Like, the jobs that are by us are like, what, what do we have? We have a big empty factory they're trying to lease out. There's an Amazon store. So they're making 20 bucks an hour. So these people can barely afford to buy the houses in this area. Now if you're a young person living in the D.C. metro with your family and you're like, okay, I'm 18, 18, I'm gonna get a job and move out, there is no way you are going to save up. You need a hundred grand to buy one of those houses and there's no jobs out there. It's not happening. It's just not going to happen. So these young people are just lighting their money on fire because they're like, I don't know, what's the point? There's no saving. There's no saving. So. Man, I prefer the stock market.
Luke Rudkowski
What?
Phil That Remains
Personally, I prefer the stock market to the stock market.
Tim Pool
It's not gambling, though.
Robbie Mann
It's all A Ponzi scheme is amazing.
Tim Pool
Risk is not gambling. So here's, here's the thing. Understand, Gambling is you and I flip a coin and we're gonna into the air. Whatever it lands on, if it lands on heads, I win all the money funds and tails, you win all the money. That's gambling. The stock market is like, hey, I've been tracking this company and I can see that there's a major interest in purchasing, you know, these new fancy tires for cars. This company makes it. Or graphene, for instance. They just announced in the news there's a great new breakthrough in graphene. They're going to integrate in car batteries. I'm going to buy companies that manufacture, I'm going to invest in these companies that make the graphene batteries, batteries, and then you, you make money back from it. Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're wrong. It's speculation, but it's not gambling.
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So going to a casino and being I'm putting my whole paycheck on craps, and then you lose everything. That's gambling.
Phil That Remains
So if you're feeling listless, educate yourself on the stock market and the way it works.
Tim Pool
I, I think, I think the issue for a lot of people is just if you're, if you're clearing a couple hundred bucks, take home disposable, what are you doing with it anyway, anyway? And then you have no leisure, you have no savings, you have no health care. This system is impossible. It's just literally impossible. And then that, like the healthcare system on top of it is just impossible. You get sick and then it's like you have insurance. Yes. Okay, that'll be two grand. Okay. What if I didn't have insurance? It'd be 300. Do you guys see that viral video from like a year ago where this guy, he calls up the, the hospital and he's like, he's like, how much do I owe you for the bill? And they were like, It's $1500 dollars. And he was like, he's like, and if, and what if I don't have insurance? And they're like, it's 300. And he goes, okay, I'll opt to not have the insurance. They go, I'm sorry, sir, you can't do that. You have insurance. So because he had insurance, he had to pay a 50, 1500 deductible. But if he was uninsured, it would have only been 300 bucks. 300 bucks.
Ian Cross
It's, it is.
Tim Pool
Everything is broken. Everything's broken.
Ian Cross
The ACA was such a lie, and it had destroyed so many people's savings and stuff. The ACA was one of the worst, worst pieces of legislation ever passed.
Robbie Mann
And the doctors are given the wrong information at hospitals. You know, my mom was in the hospital one place, said she needed surgery, that I took her out of there. She didn't need one. At the next one. They tried to give her Remdesivir, which is a medication that's very controversial. It's a lot of people, a lot of, a lot of fatalities. Instead of giving intravenous IVs, they pulled that, right?
Tim Pool
It's gone now, remember?
Alex Jones
Yeah.
Robbie Mann
They try to give it to my mom. I'm like, you're not going to kill my mom. See your Sinai in la. And they're like, who told you this?
Phil That Remains
You're.
Robbie Mann
Who told you this? I was like, you're not going to kill my mom.
Tim Pool
Nut.
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah.
Robbie Mann
And I literally prevented it for her from doing it. They're not giving intravenous vitamin C. They're not doing. They're not doing Ivermectin. They're not doing ozone therapy. A lot of these things are really good for you. They don't want to give the doctors the, the leeway to do it. They won't cover it.
Tim Pool
Well, I will, I will say this is all things as to, like, the ozone stuff and all of that. Those, those are regulated and standard practice in a lot of countries.
Robbie Mann
Yes.
Tim Pool
I'm not going to tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do, what's good or bad for them. What I can say is remdesivir was pulled. It was, it was, it was recalled.
Robbie Mann
And they tried to give it to my mom two years ago in Cedar Sinai. And I was, thank God I was there. I Was sleeping with the dog at the house and I came in, but Trump took it. She gave it to her.
Tim Pool
Trump took.
Robbie Mann
Well, we don't know if he really took it.
Tim Pool
Well, okay. It is reported that Trump did it. And now when you look it up, it says. What is this from. From the. The fda. Gilead issues voluntary nationwide recall of remdesivir due to the presence of glass particle.
Alex Jones
Wow.
Robbie Mann
Why are they not giving high dose vitamin C and organic food to people in the hospital? Hospital?
Phil That Remains
Yeah, the food in the hospital should be all sugar.
Tim Pool
I mean, and this is crazy because this is 2020. The World Health Organization suspended remdesivir from its list of. Of medicines. So if the World Health Organization says it, you know it's true. Let's grab some more super chats here. We got Mike Jameson Jamison. Might as well send a donation before the show's pulled. Hope you're having a good time, you know, but. So what happened was the reason why the show started with Alex screaming about Joe Rogan is that we mentioned that viral clip he has where he said that Trump was getting gang banged by Lindsay Graham and he started laughing and then immediately tried to one up that with an even more absurd. But you know, out of context, you
Phil That Remains
just saw him come in hot.
Tim Pool
Yeah, that's an understatement.
Ian Cross
Yeah.
Tim Pool
All right, what do we got here? Not abat says I am a garage gorilla. Indeed. The gorilla is right.
Robbie Mann
When do we think, Lynn, do you think Lindsay will ever come out of the closet?
Phil That Remains
No, no, not willingly.
Robbie Mann
Yeah.
Phil That Remains
Might he be brought out of the closet by another? I don't know.
Robbie Mann
That one guy. You saw the guy confront him at. Confront him on. It was just came out.
Phil That Remains
You know, I'm not gonna keep joking about him being gay because I really
Tim Pool
don't know if he's gay.
Phil That Remains
And what if he turns out a
Tim Pool
60 year old bachelor?
Phil That Remains
Yeah, maybe he's got like five women.
Tim Pool
How old is he?
Robbie Mann
Dude, he's got to be over. He's over 60. Yeah, he's definitely gay, but allegedly. But what I can tell you is, is that, you know, he's. There's a lot of videos of him.
Tim Pool
70.
Ian Cross
He's 70.
Tim Pool
He's a 70 year old bachelor.
Ian Cross
Yeah. Wow.
Tim Pool
Really?
Phil That Remains
Never married, no kids.
Ian Cross
Wow. Yep.
Tim Pool
Wait, what?
Ian Cross
Married, no kids.
Tim Pool
So actually I'd argue he's not gay because he's old and probably just that's like, you know, he's well past those years. You know what I mean? Just low t. Well, he's an old man being gays.
Phil That Remains
Yeah, I mean like it maybe he's androgynous.
Ian Cross
You hear a lot of, a lot of, you know, people like what was his name?
Robbie Mann
Lindsay, if you're watching.
Tim Pool
Yeah. It says today, no, Lindsey Graham is not married and has never been married. He's a bachelor, which is relatively rare in U.S. politics.
Phil That Remains
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Throughout his career he has addressed questions about being single, emphasizing it does not affect his ability to lead or present his constituents.
Robbie Mann
How does he keep winning is what I want. Who's voting for for him? I've never met anyone who anyone who's
Ian Cross
born incumbents have such a massive advantage.
Robbie Mann
So. So what?
Luke Rudkowski
Don't look him up with ladybugs.
Robbie Mann
How many times has he won reelection?
Tim Pool
Laura Loomer said that Trump officials, Trump staff told her that Lindsey Graham is gay.
Alex Jones
Oh, Laura.
Phil That Remains
Paul Dan is running against him right now. We can really support him. I'd like to see is he a
Luke Rudkowski
Republican or a Democrat?
Robbie Mann
Has anyone in the chat ever voted for Lindsey Graham, please?
Tim Pool
Oh, they, they, they actually still do give remdesivir. It's just there are, there are some like who pulled it from their list of medicines. So I believe it is still available. I'll just say it like this as we often say with everything, don't take medical advice from podcasters. We don't know what we're talking about. Like I just found out that it wasn't that it is still available. I thought it was pulled. Yeah, that was that, that was wrong. So I just recommend you get a good doctor. But we are going to go to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone here your life. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. That uncensored show will be@rumble.com Timcast IRL. Don't miss it. Luke, do you want to show anything out?
Luke Rudkowski
Yeah. YouTube.com forward/we are change. I, I really do believe all of us are probably going to be censored soon. So lukeunfiltered.com that's where I have my group. I have my discord. I'm going to do a special video about how to prepare for all the madness coming and you can get the shirt that I'm wearing there now just by becoming a member. Lukeunfilter.com thank you so much for signing up. Means a lot up at Ian Cross
Phil That Remains
and you'll find me and if you really know my personality, you know I've been self censoring the entire time I've
Alex Jones
been on this show.
Phil That Remains
I agree with you, Luke. This machine is nasty and it moves fast. So let's build some open source, resilient software to play this game under the radar while it changes. And then maybe in the future we can wake up and wake everybody else up with us. Go to Graphene movie. You'll never regret it.
Tim Pool
It's a good thing Robbie was here. Robbie.
Alex Jones
Manny.
Robbie Mann
Robbie Mann. I mean, look, I'm looking forward to seeing Ian's. Ian's movie. I'm sad about Alex leaving. He's a good guy. Let's have our prayers out there. There you can find me on the Robbie man. R B B I e on YouTube and tw Twitter and robbieman on Instagram. And I'm with. You know, I'm a huge groupie of this guy right here.
Tim Pool
Phil, don't put the camera on me. What are you talking.
Robbie Mann
I'm going to be throwing my boxers on stage for him. I hope he's okay with that.
Ian Cross
I have security that's going to remove Robbie.
Tim Pool
I am.
Ian Cross
Phil remains on Twix. If you want to hear more of my thoughts and stuff, you can check out my Patreon. It's patreon.com phil that remains. The band is all that remains. We're going on tour this spring with Dead Eyes and with Born of Osiris. Don't touch that. We be on tour from April until. No, we're playing. We're going on tour from April 29th until the end of May. If you want to check out all the Remains, if you want to get tickets, it's at all that remains online.com and you can check out the band's music on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Dieser. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
Carter Banks
Carter, Carter here. Pressing the buttons and what's up, Robbie?
Robbie Mann
I want to see the cities.
Carter Banks
Yeah, Carter Banks here. Send me your compliments or concerns turns. If you want me to do anything differently on the show at Carter Banks on Twitter, follow our label at Trash house Records on YouTube and hope Alex is doing well. Let's go to the after show.
Tim Pool
Let's get it. Head over to rumble.com timcast IRL and we'll see you in about 30 seconds.
Phil That Remains
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Date: March 13, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests: Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski, Ian Cross, Phil (All That Remains), Robbie Mann, Carter Banks
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This episode of Timcast IRL dives into a tumultuous news day encompassing:
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[03:29] Tim Pool: Launches into the day’s headlines after ad reads.
[05:10] Alex Jones enters with classic irreverence:
[08:11] Clip played: Rogan expresses concern the White House UFC event poses a massive, centralized target during wartime.
[08:54] Alex Jones: “That is a major pussy statement.”
[09:31] Jones: “The real target is the neocons in Trump’s butthole.”
[09:56] Alex Jones: “Let’s not worry about what they’re gonna do. Let’s not cancel our boxing match.”
[10:27] Luke Rudkowski & Alex Jones
[15:15] Alex Jones and Tim discuss rumors that Ayatollah's son is already dead following US/Israeli strikes.
[16:53] Tim asks: Why is online discourse now so obsessed with “Israel did it”?
Jones: Qatari influence, online “baby duck” phenomenon—“the public woke up, the Muslim Brotherhood, [funded by] Qatar, said, ‘the first thing you see is Israel,’ which Israel deserves in many ways, but now the baby duck woke up and all it sees is Israel.” [18:36]
Luke Rudkowski references Cass Sunstein (Obama’s “disinfo czar”) and deliberate efforts to hijack, radicalize legit criticism into easily dismissed extremes. [20:12]
Tim: “Social media is doing it on purpose. The system wants this clash.” [20:01]
[21:22] Viral Netanyahu clip: “We will make it to the return of the Messiah, but this will not happen next Thursday.”
Alex Jones: “It’s not all the Jews, but certainly there’s different Jewish interests that get...more power when they’re attacked. Netanyahu has been indicted. By him being under attack, he stays in power.” [23:42]
Tim: “By having this large burst of antisemitic...content, you then create the circumstances by which you can get powerful interests to shut those things down.” [26:26]
Alex: “You said it. I’m against Israel trying to start a nuclear war, but I’m also not against Israel. I’m just like, man, I’m done.” [27:08]
[27:54] Tim:
On Israel aiming for regional hegemony:
[32:22] Tim Pool: Domestic story—Old Dominion shooter Mohamed Jalo, convicted ISIS operative, shouts “Allahu Akbar”, kills students.
Alex Jones: “Why the hell was this guy not in a supermax?” [32:35]
Luke Rudkowski/Panel: History of the CIA letting terrorists into the country, liberal judges, Soros, failed prosecution [33:31]; concern about feminization of institutions (Helen Andrews, [35:56]), and leniency leading to more crime.
[43:03] Tim Pool:
Panel debates:
[56:07] Tim Pool:
[39:01] Luke Rudkowski/Tim Pool:
On YouTube/Big Tech games:
[67:11] Phil That Remains/Tim:
AI as Emulation vs. Consciousness:
Alex Jones on Joe Rogan’s warning:
Tim Pool:
Luke Rudkowski:
Phil That Remains:
[77:57] Alex, after an intense coughing fit and visible fatigue, leaves the show unexpectedly. Panel shares concern for his health, pauses to discuss, and confirms later that he was safe at home.
The episode swings between sharp skepticism, irreverent humor, and unfiltered banter. Tim Pool keeps the discussion grounded, Luke provides historic and conspiratorial context, and Alex Jones oscillates between comedic provocation and intense critique, fueling both entertainment and heated analysis.
For Full Context: While the conversation covers an array of controversial topics — and sometimes jumps into conspiracy, hyperbole, or satire — it reflects the podcast’s stated aim of providing “uncensored discussion and sharp insights into today’s most controversial issues.”