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Riots that started in LA are going nationwide now. Not everywhere is a riot, but there has been rioting in certain locations. We got a bunch of cities. We got New York, we got Seattle, we got Philly, we've got Dallas. Arrests popping up all over the place as right now I think there may be 16 or so other cities where these anti ICE riots and protests have been taking place. They expect this weekend to get a bit rowdy. So we have a bunch of videos popping up right now as we are live. Arrests are taking place in New York. There's massive protests happening in Chicago. We've got people blockading courtrooms in Seattle. And this acts kind of funny, but they're taking all those lime scooters that are just all over the place and they're building barricades with them. Those things are really annoying by the way, cuz they're just scattered all over the floor, just in random, you know, in your city or whatever. I digress. There is good news for Donald Trump. Gavin Newsom filed a suit. A judge has denied his request to block the National Guard. Trump wins. The National Guard is under his command and he can deploy them over these riots. He has doubled the amount of National Guard. He has sent in the Marines. Now these Marines are gonna be undergoing undergoing training and will not yet deploy, I believe, unless something escalates. But I don't know exactly what their decision is going to be. So we've got a lot of news in that regard. And then we have an official indictment for Rhett McIver. That's the Democrat who closed fist punched that cop at the ICE facility. It's getting crazy. A Democrat rep in Minnesota gave a speech where she said she was an illegal immigrant, implying that she fraudulently obtained citizenship and is now in public office sparking a bit of controversy. So we'll talk about all this before we get started. We got a great sponsor. It is hillsdale.edu. have you guys ever heard someone say either in an Internet clip on TV or just to you something like capitalism is evil. How'd you respond? And when did capitalism become so controversial? Hillsdale College is offering more than 40 free online courses. That is right, my friends, they are free online courses. Learn about the United States Constitution, the stories in the book of Genesis, the rise and fall of the Roman Republic, or the history of ancient of the ancient Christian church. With Hillsdale College's free online courses. Hillsdale recently launched a new course, understanding Capitalism, that you should definitely check out. In seven lessons lectures, you'll learn about the role of profit and loss, how human nature plays a role in our economic system, why capitalism depends on private property rights, the rule of law, and above all, freedom and why capitalism is ultimately a system that encourages morality rather than undermines it. Go right now to Hillsdale. Edu Tim to enroll in this course, Understanding Capitalism. There's no cost and it's easy to get started. That's Hillsdale. Edu Tim to enroll for free, shout out to Hillsdale. Awesome stuff you guys are you're getting out there. Also go to timcast.com click join us. Get in our Discord server. This is our community. If you guys are sitting there and you're watching the show and you don't know how to get involved to make a difference, here's one way you can start. Not only do you support our work as a member of the Discord, not only do you get to call in to the uncensored premium show on rumble.com but you'll actually get to talk with tens of thousands of people. So let's say you want to write a book, start a video game, who knows? And you don't know where to begin. This is community and this is where you'll meet the people that can help you out. There's chat rooms for every state. There's chat rooms for playing video games or making video games or writing books or making comics, whatever is you might want to do. This is how we get started and how we win a culture war. Right now, the biggest concern I've got, people aren't paying attention to politics anymore because they feel like Trump won despite all that's going on. So come the midterms, if the Democrats take the House, Donald Trump will be impeached. So how can you stay active and stay involved to build community again? That's timcast.com but don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more.
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Right on. Well, this is going to be fun. Thanks for joining us. Libby is here.
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Tim Pool
Hello, everybody.
Phil Labonte
My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.
Tim Pool
Here's the news from Axios LA Protests ignite Anti ICE demonstrations across the country. I love the headline writing for these news organizations because I think it's actually fair to say LA Riots ignite Anti ICE protests demonstrations. Well, we've got tons of videos, my friends. Here's this from cnn. A short clip for you.
Jim Paff
The protests are spreading to cities across the country right now, from California to Dallas and Atlanta, Louisville and New York. Many protesters say it's time to take a stand against the Trump administration's policies and what they feel are heavy handed and heartless enforcement.
Tim Pool
It's an absurdity. But here's a bunch of clips right now. So this is just from about 40 minutes ago. The 101 freeway in L. A has been shut down again.
Gavin Newsom
Police out there.
Tim Pool
We can see a bunch of these lunatics shutting down the freeway.
Gavin Newsom
It's just came out. Look, police are out on the road right now. Police are there right now.
Tim Pool
What else do we got here? We've got a massive protest in downtown Chicago right next to the Trump Building. You can see on the right now. This is a large march. This is not a right, this is a protest. But I have, I do believe there are reports of arrests already taking place. In fact, I think we have them. Protesters and police are clashing. Okay, It's a riot. Items are being thrown. This is an hour ago. People are being detained in Chicago. We have this video from Seattle Federal building. Authorities have removed the lime scooter and bike blockade, but now people are linking arms and blocking police. So still in protest territory in New York, they're blocking the roads and white people are yelling at black people because they're morally superior, I guess. So they say.
Libby Emmons
I think we should play that clip.
Tim Pool
Okay, all right. This one's really got Libby angry. Let me, let me set up. There's a black woman who's trying to get to work and there are two white protesters.
Jim Paff
I can't.
Libby Emmons
I can't. But you can.
Richard Karn
If you could just move off the wind.
Libby Emmons
How is it the peaceful process if there's, there's nothing here?
Tim Pool
No, we can.
Jim Paff
How do y' all, as white people.
Libby Emmons
Feel about stopping a black woman from going to work?
Phil Labonte
Oh, no, not work.
Libby Emmons
So you don't care about stopping black.
Gavin Newsom
People from going to work?
Libby Emmons
Look, at this line that you guys are causing.
Tim Pool
I'm not causing no problems.
Libby Emmons
I'm not trying to.
Richard Karn
We're just trying to be.
Libby Emmons
So. I just want to shout out that Savannah Hernandez out there in New York, Katie Davis, court. Jonathan, Joe. They're out in Seattle. But I just want to say this is insane. Stopping people from going to work. Like, you should be automatically arrested and indicted and imprisoned because you should never be stopping people from feeding their families and taking care of themselves and doing what they have to do to be part of, you know, breathing and eating. Like, that's just totally out of control.
Phil Labonte
Not only that, it's forcing that other person's values onto you. It's totally taking away the individual's agency to say, I don't want to engage with this. One of the things that people in the United States have kind of always taken for granted was I have the ability to opt out of the political takes. In the past 10 years, 15 years, that kind of liberty has kind of gone away. And I think most Americans want that back because they want to say, I'll go and I'll vote, but I don't have to have every single part of my life politicized.
Tim Pool
Let's just.
Libby Emmons
And that's what they've done.
Tim Pool
While they're talking, I'd like if you could pull this up and just join me in this as I tweet.
Libby Emmons
Yes, I think that is wonderful. And I'm going to.
Tim Pool
For those that are just listening, I took a screenshot of the white man yelling at the black woman, and I wrote the face of white supremacist.
Libby Emmons
He's a white supremacist. He's a horrible, horrible man. This is white privilege.
Jim Paff
Yeah, it's an expression of white privilege.
Tim Pool
I completely agree with all of these leftist precepts about white privilege. Now that a white person is attacking.
Jim Paff
Exactly right.
Libby Emmons
And he's there for the people who are listening. He's got a green koozie and a little, like, orange drink.
Phil Labonte
And a man bun.
Jim Paff
And a man bun. Don't forget the man bun.
Libby Emmons
Don't forget the man bun.
Phil Labonte
I mean, he's every little bit of that the stereotype type that you think he is.
Tim Pool
I actually. I just want to say, you know, of all the things that he's doing, the protesting, the communism, the blocking, you know, this road. I'm actually okay with all of that. It's the man bun where I think he should go to jail. Yeah, no, none of that.
Phil Labonte
I mean, look.
Tim Pool
But. But in all seriousness, it's funny. Because these people, they are the ones on the Internet, all high and mighty, calling everyone else racists. And here's. So Savannah is Latina, I'm assuming.
Libby Emmons
I don't think she is, you know.
Tim Pool
What is she, Asian?
Libby Emmons
I think she's from Guam.
Tim Pool
Guam.
Libby Emmons
I think, well, her family, Texas.
Tim Pool
But she is not white.
Libby Emmons
She is not white.
Tim Pool
And then you have this black woman and these two women of color are begging these white people to please move and they're like, no, right.
Libby Emmons
And then they make fun of them for wanting to go to their jobs, you know, and like, I just find that so like I'm for once without words. It is shocking to me that you would prevent someone from going to work to do their job. And also it's like you were saying, Phil, about this thing where they have decided that politics needs to be in every conceivable facet of our lives. Not only like they politicized the arts and they politicized every. Everything on the Internet and they politicized your clothes and your car and everything else. And they're making it impossible for you to just exist as a person. And we used to have this thing in this country that was basically the civil religion, right? You believe what you believe. That's cool. You have your religion at home, okay, you go to your church. But in public you treat everyone with dignity and respect. You treat everyone like their lives matter too. And these stupid white people, these white supremacist racists are out here saying that this black woman's life doesn't matter, that her kids lives don't matter, right? Where four, five years ago they were probably out there in New York City protesting, you know, George, Floyd, whatever else, screaming, black lives matter. And now they're telling this black woman that her life and her kids lives don't matter.
Tim Pool
This is why I keep telling people that Wokeness has nothing to do with critical race theory. Nothing to do with a critical theory. It is, it is entirely just adhering to, to the liberal orthodoxy. Here's another example. White people telling a black woman she can't go to work because their ideology is more important than her. Now shouldn't the ideology of critical theory they, as the oppressive white people say we defer to you. That's progressive stick notes. Because Wokeness is literally just about whatever makes sense for the cult. It is a murmuration of zombified leftist NPCs that believe random things, whatever they're told to believe in the moment.
Jim Paff
Well keep in mind too like it's always white people pressing wokeness it's not really people that are of different colors. And that has been really grinding against the narrative. I mean, people are starting to see in the black community, in the Hispanic community, that, you know, it's just a bunch of white people being ninnies and they're breaking away from it. I think that's part of the dynamic that happened in 2024 that got groups of those voters to vote in much larger numbers than previous times for Donald Trump because they're just fed up with it. It's white man bun guy, you know, making them go crazy.
Tim Pool
Yeah, we got some video from Dallas just last night. There had been a bunch of arrests and clashes with police. And then there's this live stream from New York City, and this is just from a couple hours ago. So protests in New York. What I will say, my experience in New York with protests is the police never do anything you might get. You get you. It's called kettling. They'll surround you and just arrest you. But you almost never see cops in New York attacking people or pepper spraying or tear gas. They never use tear gas. And I think the issue is because of the water table, because of, like, how it would go to the ocean and cause problems. But that's why during Occupy was a big deal when that one cop, Tony Baloney, pepper sprayed those young women. Like, it's kind of funny, actually, if you look at it.
Libby Emmons
What's his name really? Tony Bologna.
Tim Pool
Anthony Bologna.
Libby Emmons
I love that. He must have had it tough in middle.
Tim Pool
There were. There were several men standing on the sidewalk. They weren't. They weren't in the protest group. They were outside of the Kettle and they were yelling. And he got frustrated, I guess, walked up and just sprayed him in the face, a little can of pepper spray. And that is what created Occupy Wall Street. Most people don't know this. Nobody cared about Occupy at all until Tony Baloney pepper sprayed these three women. Creating @ the time the fastest viral video in history. Something like 1.2 million views in only a couple of hours. This is 2011, so this is early days of social media, or, you know, early ish days. And everyone's like, I can't believe how many views this video got overnight. And then everyone went out in the streets. So now we've got tear gas, expanding foam rounds. There's a. There's a video going around where a guy's yelling at a cop, and the cop just shoots him point blank with the 40 millimeter foam round, which is pretty egregious. Like just an Angry cop, some. The guy was annoying, sure, but he just blasted him twice actually. So things are getting rowdy and it's, it's videos like this that I think are going to escalate this into some like this weekend. It's going to be nuts. Cuz there's two, there's, there's two things that stop people from riding and it's work and weather. And so you see protests like this where the guy's like, oh no, not work. That guy doesn't have a job. No, that guy's sucking, sucking the teeth of the state or something like that. Or he's, he's got his trust fund kid. A lot of trust fund kids at these protests.
Phil Labonte
How disgusting is that? You, you know, he's either totally a vagrant that's living at the behest of the, of the state or he's totally the trust fund kid that has so much money none of this stuff actually affects him.
Tim Pool
During Occupy it was, it was organized by trust fund kids.
Libby Emmons
That makes a lot of sense.
Tim Pool
It's not, it's not an exaggeration. And when the media, when several in media would point it out, largely conservative, many of the activists would take it as an offense, like I am not a trust fund kid. And it's like, yo, those people who are literally organizing and everything, yeah, they're trust fund kids. That's why they're here. They don't have jobs, they don't need jobs.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, they can just hang out in the street all day.
Tim Pool
That's right.
Libby Emmons
And not bathe. It doesn't matter.
Tim Pool
So the other thing is travel. There's going to be a lot of left aligned people. Not as many as probably there used to be because Trump is, is actually, he's doing really well. But people are going to drive to these cities. So you got to understand that people might live two hours north of New York. They're not going to drive in for this on the weekend. They'll say let's drive in in the morning and join the protests for Saturday and Sunday. I think this weekend is gonna be nuts.
Jim Paff
Well, don't forget what's happening in Washington. You know, you got the big parade planned. Army that's gonna thunderstorm though, and that may help out what was intended to be something really big. I mean don't consider these are not organic by the way. These were all planned data. Republican has got some fantastic research on what's funding it, what's triggering it. You know, this is all in design to thwart Donald Trump, obviously at every Turn. And this one, this time it's backfiring big time. 2020 things didn't backfire quite as hugely as it's about to backfire right now.
Tim Pool
I mean, this is, this is an 8020 issue. Yeah, BLM, the BLM riots, that was actually a massively popular issue. Yeah, the, the approval rating for BLM at the time of George Floyd's death was around 55 to 60% in aggregate. And then the riots were wiped all of that off the map and it went negative. But let's jump to this story from Newsweek. Mysterious riot gear handed out to LA protesters raises questions indeed. People spotted bionic shields. These are high end face masks that people could wear. Full face masks akin to helmets handed out from the back of a pickup truck by two women. There's also reports that a van pulled up distributing shields and masks as well. Who is buying these? Who is building them? This is, this is organized. And I think if Donald Trump, if the conservatives, if the right doesn't want to play hardball, we lose and expect in five years and six years to be marched into that gulag. And I'm only half kidding, but these people have plans, they have planned for this, they have contingencies. Before Donald Trump won, they were war gaming what they would do if he did win. And they are relying on Donald Trump and the Republicans not going as far as they would need to act to actually stop this. So what does that mean? If they are spending money on shields and masks to obstruct the federal government? This is sedition. The people voted for a president to remove foreign nationals who have illegally entered this country and to do so in large numbers. I mean, the Republicans swept everything. If now people are going out and providing resources to combat federal law enforcement, including the National Guard and the Marines. This is sedition. And the DOJ needs to go after any single one of these individuals, especially if they're flying a foreign flag. It is a seditious conspiracy. At this point, there's no doubt that.
Jim Paff
Everything is happening in these streets. First of all, Alien Enemies act is entirely. He absolutely has to be calling that out. There really has to be an effort to deport every one of the illegals that are here. There's no doubt that this looks like a real invasion. I mean, you've got what's going on in Chicago now what happened in Boston. You look at these pictures and these scenes, Donald Trump has a perfect opportunity to make that argument and to act upon it. And I'm surprised he hasn't done more of that. Already. But the weak part of the Trump agenda is Republicans in Congress, let's just put it that way.
Libby Emmons
Well, yeah, they've passed, like what, they passed their big beautiful bill in the Lake and Riley act this year and that's it.
Jim Paff
No, not even the big beautiful bill. It's still working.
Libby Emmons
The House.
Tim Pool
The House did, yeah. If the Senate does pass it, Trump gets something like $80 billion for immigration enforcement.
Jim Paff
Well, and all.
Libby Emmons
Which is what he. Which is what we all voted for. Really. I mean, that's what it's voted for.
Jim Paff
Yeah. Listen, Republicans in Congress are not going to react to this in a way that needs to be acted. Donald Trump does have a lot of levers to do this which make Republicans look much better than they deserve. You're not going to see action in Congress. Well enough on this. I don't.
Tim Pool
I think the first. So there's some interesting things that are happening. Thomas Massie and Rand Paul, very, very popular. Not so much now because they are both of the opinion we don't want deficit spending. So therefore Trump can't get his bill. And we need to change the bill to give, you know, hey, let's fund ICE and deportations, but not by spending on all these things. And people are pissed because we have very little time to enact these deportations before Democrats try and muster up power in the House. And then if we don't handle these deportations, the census will kick in and that's going to shift illicitly power towards Democrats because they give themselves extra congressional seats and Electoral College votes. The Republicans have to do this right now. They have to start deporting people, otherwise it's over. So 2030 is the date of the census. It doesn't matter if these individuals may have been popular. I still like Massey and Paul, but I'm right now saying, pass Trump's big, beautiful bill, get it done. Because we don't have that much time.
Libby Emmons
No, we don't have a lot of time.
Jim Paff
No, we don't have time. Actually, just you think about this legislatively, it absolutely has to get done. I mean, I'm all for the fight that Ron Johnson and Rand and them are trying to have to go get something on the edges. But one of the most amazing things about this bill is the permanency of these tax cuts. I mean, think about this. That's an amazingly positive thing you will have, for the first time since I went to Capitol Hill in 2010, no opportunity for politicians to scream and yell about, oh my gosh, they're, they're about to Stop and recreating the tax code. Now they have to actually vote to raise taxes. Well, so yes, I think that's one of the big reasons to pass.
Tim Pool
You know who's, who's at fault for all this right now? Who takes all the blame? Any guesses?
Phil Labonte
I know.
Tim Pool
Say it.
Phil Labonte
I know who.
Libby Emmons
You say it.
Phil Labonte
That's right. Yes.
Libby Emmons
Oh, the amnesty. Yeah.
Tim Pool
This is what is believed to have turned California from a strong Republican state into a permanent blue state. And everything we're seeing now is an offshoot of the theft of political power through illegal immigration is an offshoot of Reagan saying we're let 3 million people enter our electoral system and their children and it was a mistake and they shouldn't have done it.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, they shouldn't have done it.
Tim Pool
And in fact what we're seeing now is American citizens allegiant to Mexico flying Mexican flags and saying, you can't deport me, I'm American.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Hate this country. They're, they're on the streets right now. All these videos are popping up. There's a. You know what? I'm going to pull up the video. You make your point. I'm going to pull this video up.
Libby Emmons
I will make my point. During the Biden administration you had DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas as one of the many who was saying that what was needed was an amnesty for all of the people that had been let in. He actively spoke out against deportation saying that they don't make any sense, that it was not a reasonable policy to deport even one person because he said there was too much manpower involved and all of this other stuff and there were too many connections to the country at that point. And this guy is the same guy that from the press briefing room in March 2021 said we're not saying don't come. We're saying don't come now. Let us get our immig things sorted out. And then they spent the entire four years creating semi legal ways to get more and more people into the country. And so that now you had Alexander ocasio, Cortez, Lamonica McIver at this point, Chuck Schumer, all of the rest of them saying that we need these people in the country to do low wage jobs because Americans won't do them. So they want them to do unregulated work for low pay and then they want to give them mass amnesty and create pathways to.
Tim Pool
Let me, let me show you the fruits of Ronald Reagan. This is our city and this was Mexico.
Libby Emmons
You can't kick us out of the.
Tim Pool
Land that was ours. Donald Trump fascism.
Libby Emmons
Have you not seen the place?
Tim Pool
What's the wind blower for?
Libby Emmons
Just for the tear gas to blow.
Jim Paff
It back at those mother.
Tim Pool
If you have blower, bring it up, push it back.
Libby Emmons
We will not do 1992 again with my tens.
Tim Pool
I was 12 then.
Jim Paff
I'm 44 now.
Libby Emmons
I will die for my kids. And all of these young people are here. They're not your kids.
Phil Labonte
Because I'm an LA native mom.
Libby Emmons
I bet she's a public school teacher fighting you Major.
Tim Pool
If you can hear me, expect your ass. You can say something to Donald Trump right now.
Phil Labonte
What would he say?
Tim Pool
Donald Trump, you can suck my left nut. You can get.
Jim Paff
How you going to give it a time of day?
Tim Pool
And because so here's. Here is. So here's a woman allegiant to Mexico, praising the Mexican president, denouncing the American president. The leaf blowers intended to act as a weapon. The purpose being to blow tear gas at police. She is screaming, this is Mexico. It's our land. This is an invasion.
Jim Paff
This is.
Tim Pool
Now, now, now, hold on. Here's the question for you guys. If she's from LA and she was born there and she's a citizen, what do we do?
Libby Emmons
I don't think you do anything really. I mean, what can you do?
Tim Pool
So because of Ronald Reagan, we have millions of people in this country who hate this country, are allegiant to a foreign nation, but have legal protected status as citizens.
Jim Paff
Keep in mind, Barack Obama has a better record on immigration than Ronald Reagan because of that 86 bill. And there's no doubt about it, it created an invasion. It also set the paradigm for how this is getting much worse.
Libby Emmons
Now as to what you do not the Flores Agreement. The Flores Agreement, that's a disaster too.
Jim Paff
Oh, yeah, absolutely. But the whole paradigm of expanding immigration began from that effort. And listen, I don't know what you do with this woman, but there's no doubt you have to go after the people that are pro Mexico. I think you. This is insurrection. I think we need to say that it is. And it's sedition that needs to be acted upon. So on the basis of immigrant or, you know, citizenship status. No, but you have to aggressively stop this stuff. It's going to destroy us right now.
Phil Labonte
It calls into question U.S. sovereignty. Yes, there are people that are actually.
Libby Emmons
That'S been happening for a while.
Phil Labonte
The behaviors that they're taking, like that they're engaging in, they call into question whether the federal government actually has the authority to do things like enforce the laws passed by Congress. This is simple. Donald Trump has got to move in. He's got to do honestly, the plans that I've heard are perfectly fine. Have the military go in to defend their operations and defend the federal agents that are acting to enforce the law. So the military won't even interact with the people. If the people don't attack the ICE agents that are doing their job, let them go in there and do their job. They'll they there will be deportations, there will be people that get rounded up. It's, you know, you may not like it, but that's the way that it's going to be. And the military is there to set security and that's fine. Right. But the federal government has the authority to do all this stuff.
Tim Pool
So I want to jump to another story here we have this from Fox News. Minnesota state rep. Admits she is in the U.S. illegally during legislative debate. REP. I believe it's pronounced Kaoli Vang. Her revealed her family falsified paperwork. She let me see if I can if they have the clip, we'll try and get the audio here.
Richard Karn
Who brought us all to this country at the end of the I've been spending a lot of time with my father who brought us all to this country at the end of the Vietnam War. And I asked my father about how we came to the United States. And I always thought that we came here because my grandfather was a colonel in the secret war. And I thought that that meant that we had we were in line to come to the US and my mother told me, my father told me that that was not true, even though my parents both worked for a Christian organization. And my father actually worked at the U.S. consulate because he was one of the few people who could speak English and he could type really fast. And apparently that was a very valued skill then. So they had my father move away from the refugee camp from my mom and my sisters and I, and he went to live at the consulate where he processed all of the paperwork for the refugees that came to America. And we had missed our time to come to the US Three times. And if we didn't come that last time, we would not have been able to come to the US And I said, wow, what luck of ours. And my mom said it wasn't luck. We did not have our names on that list to come to the US because even though your grandfather worked for the CIA, we because there was no like, if you were a child of somebody worked for the CIA, the only people that had names to come to the US Were if you were in the direct military and you worked for the CIA or you worked for usaid, and which is why it's so personal to me that USAID is getting unfunded. But we did not do either one of those. My parents Christian organization did not count. And so what my father did was one of our uncles worked for usaid. And because his mother had died, my father, as the one processing the paperwork, put my grandmother down as his mother. And so I am illegal in this country. My parents are illegal here in this country. And when we were fleeing that situation, never one time did my family say, let's look at which state has the greatest welfare and which state has the greatest benefits. Because that's the, that's the state we are going to go to. Nobody leaves their country unless they have to leave that country. And that I asked my parents, did you miss were you scared coming to America? And I record all this because I can't believe that I'm going to be turning 52. I never asked my parents these stories before. And my mom said we weren't scared because America we knew was the land of opportunity and that if we worked hard, we could become something as long.
Tim Pool
As they fraudulently gained citizenship, which is apparently what she's claiming they did. She also said she recorded that there have been protests all weekend. So this is a state rep, a Democrat in Minnesota stating, now, I don't know if it's true or not because she could be lying for political brownie points because they're creepy cultists, but I would say the DOJ should launch an investigation, subpoena those recordings and if you have an admission, well, either way, they should get those recordings, then review if possible, the documents from when they filed and falsified their refugee status and then ultimately gained citizenship through this. And I say, then it's disqualified. You're gone. Deportation.
Libby Emmons
Well, that is one of the reasons to withdraw naturalization is if it was fraudulently claimed. That's like part of the documentation on how that would be done, you know.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
I mean, look, you could do probably the same thing with Ilhan Omar's fake brother, husband person. Right.
Phil Labonte
The federal government should do all of those things. If there's any kind of fraud or any, any kind of breaking the law in or in order to get citizenship or something, and they admit to it, the federal government absolutely should go ahead and just wrap people up. The clothing guy on, on Twitter, the leftist or progressive clothing guy, I forget what his name is, which one was. He was A Vietnam. He was from Vietnam and he's here illegally. And he admitted it on Twitter. JD Vance replied to the tweet like, yeah, we're going to come get you.
Libby Emmons
Why would you do that? Because they, because they believe that the.
Phil Labonte
Government does not have the authority to actually enforce the law.
Libby Emmons
Check this out. That they, they have the right to, to stay. Regardless of that.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Tim Pool
From house.gov this is 8 USC 1451. The party to whom was granted the naturalization alleged to have been illegally procured or procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation shall in any such proceedings under subsection A of the section have 60 days personal notice unless waiver such party in which to make answers to position of the United States. And if such naturalized person be absent from the U.S. blah, blah, blah. Such a notion shall be given. Long story short, this is. Where's the actual. They can revoke naturalization? Basically, that's the point of this. If they fall, if they made material misstatements, then the US Government, even decades later, has the right to rescind naturalization and revoke citizenship.
Jim Paff
I'm asking myself, where the heck is Pam Bondi here? She's got this huge Justice Department that has a full division that can deal precisely with this issue. And they're not even out in front of a lot of this stuff. Her going on television so much was a big scandal. Obviously. While she's not doing anything. This is the stuff you go on television about. We're doing this thing. We're doing that thing.
Tim Pool
I found the provision. It's E. Yeah. When a person shall be convicted under section 1425 of title 18 of knowingly procuring naturalization in violation of the law, the court in which such conviction is had shall thereupon revoke, set aside and declare void the final order admitting such person to citizenship and shall declare the certificate of naturalization of such person to be canceled. Jurisdiction is conferred on the courts having jurisdiction to the trial of such offense to make such adjudication, blah, blah, blah. So I think I, I say we investigate and then, yeah, she can go back to Laos.
Jim Paff
By the way, the one, the one good result of this was that a bill that was designed to take illegals off of their Medicaid style program in Minnesota passed because the speaker of the House and the Majority Leader came in there. So these debates must be had, these responses must be immediately on the table. And again, I'm just calling them Pam Bondi. Like, I'd really like to see some Action in this and many other areas. What we're rolling out, what we're ramping up to actually address what's going on. And I'm, I'm rather disappointed, frankly.
Libby Emmons
Really. I mean, she did get the indictment for Lamonica McIver replica La Monica McIver in, in New Jersey for assaulting the ICE agents outside Delaney Hall.
Jim Paff
No, that's, that's all great, but listen, we. Right now she should be rolling up the investigation on these riots going on right now. You know, again with this legislator there. She's not the only one. There are a lot of people in this situation. What's the effort that we have that we're undertaking now? And you don't have to go into details. You're just going to say we're. We're up upon it. You know, I think that, that Trump's winning the debate right now. I don't think you're going to see any polls go down on the promotion of the immigration and getting people out of the country. He's going to stay firm on all that. If you want to solidify these gains, you need to show that you're taking other actions that are really important. Tom Holman's got it covered. Like he. What a rock star, you know, but, but, but we need these other people in the various agencies to get on it and not have these weak interviews like Cash Patel had, you know, on Joe Rogan. We need, we need some real stuff.
Libby Emmons
I thought that was a pretty good interview.
Jim Paff
It was a good interview, but, you know, I'm, I'm really concerned about what they're saying about the Epstein files. And Tim's been pointing this out, I think, pretty effectively.
Libby Emmons
And I mean, I know that a lot of people are worried about the Epstein files. I just want to see the current policies get enforced. I just want to see action on this stuff so that we're not dealing with the exact same problems next year and the year after and the year after that.
Phil Labonte
I still think that significant criticism about the administration or the DOJ is a little early. I don't think that enough time has gone, in my opinion, for me to say, okay, they're not working on these things. They're not trying. Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, for whatever you, you believe they're actually doing, they are pretty interactive on Twitter. They do post a lot more than other, you know, other. Other people in the FBI. And so I.
Tim Pool
The problem we're facing right now has nothing to do with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. It is that there Are individuals in this country allegiant to foreign nations that have been naturalized illicitly, illegally or through I would, I would describe as surreptitious means? We have a sitting Democrat admitting that her family fraudulently obtained citizenship. Now this law actually says if your parents illicitly obtain citizenship and it is revoked, yours is revoked as well. We've got people in la. This is where it ends up. People in Los Angeles flying Mexican flags, praising the Mexican president as the Mexican president praises the illegal immigrants in this country, calls on Donald Trump to stop enforcing the law against immigration. Foreign nationals in our country, effectively sanctioning the people entering illegally while people who were then born here, two parents allegiant to Mexico, are using their protected status against us. I, I, I don't believe there's a solution to this. I think what's going to happen is the political power structure is being shifted by Democrats. There are extra congressional seats for illegal immigrants and that means there's squishy Republicans that have to pander to these districts in order to get a seat in Congress. Republicans are going to be too scared to try and rock the boat, so they'll just say, I'm not going to go that far. That's crazy. But let's be honest. When you have Democratic politicians admitting that their family illegally obtained citizenship and these people's policies flow in the direction of aiding people, not from this country, against the will of the American people, you have active, what I would call standalone complex sedition, that is there's seditious conspiracy and the concept of a standalone complex where if enough people adhere to an idea and act in a certain way, it appears like a widespread movement. It's an emergent phenomenon that will happen in any country that brings in millions of non citizens and then confers upon them the right to vote and run our government. It's real simple. If you invite a stranger into your house, don't be surprised when he votes to eat all your food and take.
Libby Emmons
All your stuff and then take your house and kick you out.
Tim Pool
Indeed, why not? The next thing that happens, Republicans aren't going to do what needs to be done. In this regard. I can't imagine anyone will have the political will to say, if you are in Los Angeles flying that woman should be charged with sedition. Enough. The federal government is saying, we have, we have codified laws on the books through Congress going back decades and even hundreds of years, and you are here with weapons, attacking our law enforcement in the name of a foreign nation. Seditious conspiracy, all of it. Sedition, 10 years in prison. Lock them up.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Jim Paff
It's been a long time in this country since we've been really serious about really enforcing the laws that are on the books. Like we, we've been so lax. And on these high. I agree with you, Tim. And on these high profile things, the action taken, American people appreciate one of the biggest problems like again, we're all about pass the bill. But one of the biggest problems about being so slow on the reconciliation bill to get real cuts in is because these guys are scared of their own shadows. We got it can't be shared of our shadows on this sedition thing. And you have to move aggressively. The moment that you do it and get good results, everyone comes on board. It's always scary at first and that is the reason the actions aren't taken. But once you take the action and you get some results with it, everyone takes a collective breath and they're with you and you keep doing it. But the motivation is not just the public response, it's the, you know, enforcing of the law.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Maybe because Trump's in his last term and he is being a bit more aggressive, maybe we'll, we will see some action. There are questions. Ilhan Omar has been challenged over and over and over again about engaging in immigration fraud with her brother. And this is the Star Tribune that reported it. Quote from the Star Tribune, Ilhan Omer Omar may have married her brother if there. There are numerous witnesses claiming to be true. And there are questions about whether or not her citizenship would be void if she illicitly will fraudulently was engaging in these activities. But we haven't seen anything from the doj. It could be that we have four years of Joe Biden. It could be that this is a different kind of story. You know, this woman in Minnesota, she, she's gonna have to either rescind that statement and say I was lying for political points. I'm sorry.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
Okay. I say we investigate it because either we prove she's lying or according to the law, her citizenship is to be avoided and then she can't serve and she's gotta go deported.
Jim Paff
Well, I'll tell you what, in Washington D.C. one of the great things about Donald Trump is getting out of this idea of, well, we just, you know, we need to be nice like we've always been and getting away from that and going straight to the point. I had not considered the Ilhan Omar thing, but I'm telling you that, to do that, to make it very clear the thing that everyone already knows about her and to act upon it, whatever the result is, looks good. And you can't sit back and say, because she actually. She's very seditious in the House. Let's just be honest. The squad is seditious in the House. These people are not even thinking about a basic American idea. It's bad enough to get these guys to understand what the Constitution means, much less to do that. So do it.
Tim Pool
Why? Why isn't Bowman in jail?
Jim Paff
Yeah, I agree. Like that. It was so, having worked on Capitol Hill, it is so obvious what he had done on that door and the way they were explaining it.
Tim Pool
For those that know the context, he removed the sign from the door saying emergency exit only, and then pulls a fire alarm on camera. You can watch the video in order.
Libby Emmons
To stop a bill from slap on a wrist.
Jim Paff
Well, in the moment you saw the.
Phil Labonte
Video, denied it, too.
Libby Emmons
And then he denied it. Yeah. He lied about it.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Jim Paff
Knowing the Capitol inside and out, the moment you saw the picture and what door it was, that door is never freaking open. Like, no one ever goes out.
Tim Pool
He did it to obstruct an official proceeding.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that's correct.
Tim Pool
You should be in prison right now.
Libby Emmons
Yes, that's correct.
Phil Labonte
But the. Historically, at least in the past 10 years, the government hasn't really enforced the law when it came to Democrats. Whether it be stuff like that or the way that the FBI was trying to cover the fact that the congressional baseball shooter was actually politically motivated. They tried to. To brush that amount, a little bit of terrorism under the rug. That's. That's standard operating procedure.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Tim Pool
You know, let's jump to the story from Scripps News. Judge denies California's request to immediately block Trump's use of the National Guard. This is a big win for Donald Trump, they say. Governor Newsom filed the emergency request on Tuesday alleging that Trump was turning the US Military against American citizens. The request sought to block the Trump admin. From expanding the role of deployed troops in la, saying new orders could allow National Guard members to assist with immigration raids by securing perimeters and streets.
Phil Labonte
Yes.
Tim Pool
But U.S. district Judge Charles Breyer declined to grant the motion, ordering instead that Trump, Pete Hegseth and Department of defense have 24 hours to respond to the governor's filing. The judges also scheduled a hearing on the case for Thursday, June 12th. So good news for now. Case is still ongoing, but I'm. I think Trump has every right to take command of the National Guard. Karen Bass is saying that Trump should end all immigration enforcement.
Libby Emmons
Wasn't that totally insane? She was Saying that Trump should just stop enforcing federal law in California because she doesn't personally like it. This is from the mayor who was literally in Ghana as LA burned in January. And then she blamed everybody else in her government instead of herself for what went down. For, like the thousands of homes burned. They've hardly gotten any permits for those people to rebuild their homes. It's absolutely a total disaster still. And now she thinks that the best thing to do is create more disaster. She also is one of the people who was spreading the falsehood that an ICE raid was at Home Depot on Friday.
Phil Labonte
That's what said this whole thing off.
Libby Emmons
Which actually did not happen. And the people who said that that happened were spokespeople from this organization, Chirla, which is like a Coalition for Humane Immigration, something, something. And they are the ones who on Friday held a press conference and said that there'd been a raid at Home Depot that then got repeated and repeated and repeated. In fact, at Post Millennial, we were reporting on, you know, this whole thing and we were looking at the Times and I, we, we were arguing about it. We were like, well, what happened? Was there a rate at Home Depot? The Times said there was a rate at Home Depot. These, you know, these activists said there was a rate at Home Depot. Was there. And then Bill Milligan at Fox was saying there was no rate at Home Depot. Dhs, DHS said there was no rate at Home Depot. There was just, you know, they were like nearby doing something else. And this whole thing got sparked off. Karen Bass then lied about it. The activist lied about it. And it turns out that activist group Chirla, not only were they backed by Kamala Harris, who held her first event as senator elect in 2016 at like one of their events, but also they were funded by the Department of Homeland Security.
Jim Paff
Yeah, half a million dollars from the Homeland Security over two years.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, Natalie Winters was reporting that, and then she was reporting that on X. She's at War Room. So I started digging into that and. Yeah, that's true. This is who was funding the Biden administration is literally somehow continuing to fund the activist groups.
Jim Paff
Gold bars off the Titanic.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, the activist groups.
Jim Paff
We thought it was just EPA stuff. It's much more broad than that.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, it's a huge, It's a huge issue. And so they were not only opening the borders, creating semi legal pathways for entry, all of the parolee programs, extending temporary protected legal.
Phil Labonte
You mean illegal?
Libby Emmons
No, because they made, they like created these things. So instead of remain in Mexico, they said you can be paroled into the United States, which they never should have done. They should have stuck with remain in Mexico. They prioritized. One of Kamala Harris's big things that she did, as in her temporary stint as borders are before her office said that she wasn't responsible for the border, was she got the Biden administration to sign an executive order prioritizing LGBTQIA plus people for asylum at the US Mexico, Mexico border. Right. I mean another thing that they did was they said that any unaccompanied minor would be admitted to the U.S. no questions asked. Which is like, hey, human traffickers.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
Bring all. Steal the children and bring these, these.
Phil Labonte
These were powers that the executive office did have though, right?
Libby Emmons
Like semi legal. Yeah. One app was actually created under the Trump administration to allow boats carrying perishable goods to the United States to create appointments to go to ports and say like here's all our bananas or whatever. And the Biden administration changed it and reprioritized it for immigrants to say, oh, we're going to come, we're going to make an appointment, surrender ourselves at a point of entry. We are illegal immigrants. You will parole us into the United States and then we will stay there until a court hearing. And then they also went around summarily dismissing court cases. They dismissed like hundreds of thousands writing.
Tim Pool
To second class citizens.
Libby Emmons
Yes. Which is. Was. Was their goal. And then they could, you know, make all these people have low class jobs and boost congressional representation for those districts. Meanwhile.
Tim Pool
Anyway, we just have a big. A massive rumor. It's got 1.3 million views. I mean, saying that a photo surfaced of the man who was in the truck delivering the face masks and shields and that he is, he is reportedly affiliated with the Teamsters.
Libby Emmons
Oh wow.
Tim Pool
Chapter.
Libby Emmons
Is that for real?
Tim Pool
I heard it's a, it's a, it's a report and rumor circulating on X.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I heard also there was something that I heard this morning. I don't remember what podcast it was. It might have been on two way with from that Mark Halperin's new podcast with Sean Spicer. But I think they might have been talking about either way. I'm not sure where I heard it but they were talking about unions are actually involved with trying to organize and. Or with the groups that are organizing the. The protests here.
Jim Paff
Primarily service international employees unions.
Tim Pool
I am flabbergasted by this tweet I just saw from ABC News 7. It says there are more U.S. troops in L. A than in Iraq and Syria.
Libby Emmons
That's awesome.
Tim Pool
I only respond is okay. Yeah.
Libby Emmons
So much better.
Tim Pool
What?
Jim Paff
Thank you.
Phil Labonte
We don't want them over there in America.
Jim Paff
Thank you, Donald Trump.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Jim Paff
Wow.
Tim Pool
This is crazy. I mean, someone's funding this stuff. Someone's providing these weapons.
Libby Emmons
Did you say that it was the Teamsters? It was the Teamsters.
Jim Paff
Oh, this one rumor was a team.
Tim Pool
The guy who was behind the wheel of a truck giving. Where they were giving out shields and masks, according to a viral tweet, is a member of a local Teamsters chapter.
Jim Paff
You know, back to Cheerile, by the way, more government funding. So in their last 990, that's the form that nonprofit organizations submit to the federal government, they went from $12 million in government grants to 33 million. I think the number was in their last reporting period. Now, it turns out it seems that a lot of this money is from the state of California coming to them. It's Cheerleads. Campaign for humane immigrant rights, L.A. right. So the government money's coming in, and it's. A lot of. It's from California. So in effect, California is funding these riots on themselves that they're complaining about Donald Trump overreacting to that they're doing nothing about that they know they need to do something about and say they want to do.
Phil Labonte
You're talking about the state of California is paying for these things, or is it. Are you talking about.
Jim Paff
In effect, I posted a meme on my. On my ex. It was a picture of the people on that bridge throwing rocks down on those police cars, you know, and it said my government by the police cars. And then somehow also my government.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Jim Paff
I mean, this is really the absurd thing that's taking place. The NGO culture is so freaking corrupt. Like, we, you know, this is really a UN corrupt game, these NGOs. We didn't do NGO. We didn't call nonprofit organizations NGOs in this country until 20, 30 years ago, USAID. I mean, this is really a Bush administration thing almost, Frankly. But the NGOs were corrupt institutions receiving money from the UN for a long period of time, and now they're corrupt institutions receiving our government money, radically twisting everything. I mean, this is. This is one of the big stories of this iteration of Donald Trump and this administration, the corruption of government. And in coordination with Open Societies foundation, this communist CCP billionaire that's also funding these. Whose name I'm forgetting. These guys are working in coordination with all this NGO stuff to cause this crap. And remember, George Soros makes money on chaos, that it's a hedge fund. Like, you need to have inside information to really short the market or, or go long in the market. And that's how he cornered the British pound so many years ago. Scott Besant helped him do that, by the way. But that and this, that's another issue that kind of lingers at the bottom of everything you're seeing going on right now is that these guys have other interests than just politics.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Jim Paff
Now they want to affect the politics. Source is a socialist. There's no doubt. That's why the other guy's a communist, actually. But. But they, they want to affect the politics, but they also want to make money off of it. It's. It's one of the hugest scams that's happened throughout world history, but we're just seeing a big iteration of it again these days.
Phil Labonte
The. I think that, you know, that's one of the benefits of, you know, the Internet and everything being online, everyone's lives being online is these kind of organizations were less, you know, less susceptible to, you know, the sunlight. They, they could. It was much easier for them to hide and, and to work behind the scenes with using, you know, just networking and using the connections that they had in governments and stuff. And nowadays anyone that goes on the Internet and decides that they want to look into, you know, what's the organization that's doing this or doing, doing that or how did you know, what's. Is this information that I'm seeing from people on the ground, is it true? They can do all the, you know, they can at least do some searching to see if there's actual, you know, substance to it. So it's. It's much more difficult for people that are looking to, you know, to do subversive actions in the US it's much harder to hide it, I think.
Jim Paff
All because Elon Musk bought X and got Donald Trump elected, right?
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, legitimately.
Jim Paff
Seriously.
Tim Pool
That's vague.
Phil Labonte
Without X, without this platform, we would.
Jim Paff
Be totally closed down.
Tim Pool
I can't.
Jim Paff
Listen, I was, I was initially involved with these Mario Nefalls space back in 2022 and 2023. I was helping organize him. I was getting a lot of people on there. Actually. His early big guests were mostly ones that I was getting and I broke with him a long time ago. But the point is that when we were doing those things, it was exploding. It was. You could. You had this sense in the population that, wow, finally, you know, I can hear something that's real. I remember being on X before that, and it was just a waste of freaking time. I had gone from. I was on the Radio in Denver for four years from 2006 to 2010. I had grown my following to about 15, 16,000 at the time. And then while I was unengaged working on Capitol Hill and stuff, it dropped down to 4,000. You know, I couldn't do anything. Every time, everything I would try, they shut it down. Suddenly an explosion of information. I think people still are remembering that viscerally right now and they're going after this information. But you're so correct about we finally are able to put a spotlight on this stuff in a way. Like it's one thing to say, oh yeah, George Source is buying it. And by the way, these LA riots, I can't find any evidence of George Source money. It's this, it's this Neville Bingham guy. Yeah, right. But, but Source benefits from it.
Tim Pool
So we've got, we'll jump to the story here. We've got video out of Chicago as these immigration protests light up and people aren't having it. A car actually navigates driving through the protest. It appears everybody's fine, but people are saying no, look at this.
Jim Paff
There's the red car that's coming in.
Gavin Newsom
And you'll see people trying to get.
Jim Paff
Out of the way, others standing in front and others beating the car, trying.
Tim Pool
To slow it down or stop it.
Jim Paff
And then here's.
Gavin Newsom
You'll see the officer right there as it passed there.
Tim Pool
Wow. We'll show you here.
Jim Paff
There's the red car that's coming in.
Tim Pool
And you'll see people trying to get.
Jim Paff
Out the of of the way.
Tim Pool
Yeah, people are, are no longer going to wait around after what we saw with these, with the BLM rides in the Summer of Love.
Libby Emmons
And they pulled people out of their notably.
Tim Pool
Well, the woman. It was a man, I think it was a man or woman, I can't remember who got, got shot in Provo, Utah.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So driving on the street, minding your own business, someone runs up to your car and just shoots you. So now people aren't stopping.
Libby Emmons
No. I don't know why you would. They, they're not stopping for the climate people anymore either, remember?
Tim Pool
Yep. And well, I guess I got to say, if you live in a place like Chicago, you're going to prison.
Jim Paff
Well, this is kind of a modification of the, you know, if you're going to take on the king, you better kill him type thing. They did, they, they shot their wad in 2020 and for some time thereafter. And now we have the information openly there and people are just definitely not going to put up with it anymore. And when it gets out of hand in ways like it did in 2020, it's still not going to convince them to give up anymore.
Tim Pool
Well, so we have this from Newsweek. Louisiana may be hit with a curfew. This story is just breaking in the past hour. Mayor Bass says that they may launch a curfew tonight with everything getting as crazy as it is. So Donald Trump's support right now on immigration. CNN had this hilarious bit. Harry Ensign, man, he's their poll guy. He's a living meme now. Because every other, every week at least he's going, look at the polls. People love Donald Trump. We are, we can't believe these numbers. And it's like, okay, shocked every time, every time that people support what Trump is doing right now. And I say, get out there, National Guard, send in the Marines, where necessary. Arrest all these people. They should be charged not just with rioting. There are people on the streets screaming for a foreign nation. Charge them with sedition. And let's be done with this. Let's, let's. If you, if you come in now and say, we will enforce the law as it is written, and that means if you're, if you're cheering for a foreign nation, fighting the federal government and our military for foreign nationals sedition, we lock you up.
Phil Labonte
I don't see why this is controversial at all. This is stuff that 20 years ago, Democrats would have agreed with.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, but Democrats have gone so far to the left that all of us ended up being conservative.
Jim Paff
Well, we're at a time though, too, where you can press something that years ago would have seemed incredibly radical. And now people are so fed up with the situation, they, they'd accept it. I mean, I'm in 100% agreement.
Phil Labonte
So what do you think is that, or what do you actually, both of you, Libby, what do you think? What do you think is the, what do you think would be an action too far that would actually turn most of America against Donald Trump? Because right now he's still at 55% of the people want to see roundups, not just deportations, but people getting rounded up, illegals getting rounded up, not just the criminals. This is something that's been pulled over and over and people are like, yes, round up the illegals, not just the criminals. Round up the illegals and send them home. What do you think would be too much for the American people?
Libby Emmons
Well, I think if you, if you actually did start seeing, like, children being ripped out of parents, arms. But of course, that's what Democrats are driving all of this towards. That's what they want to have happen. Right? I mean, you have sanctuary cities and sanctuary states where the law says that local law enforcement cannot help federal law enforcement. So what does that mean? What that means is that federal law enforcement, right, they have to go out into the community instead. So you have somebody who is a criminal, illegal immigrant, they get detained locally for whatever crime they did. So when they get released, when it's time for them to, like, get released into the community or whatever, local law enforcement does not call federal law enforcement to say, come get your guy here.
Tim Pool
Right. We got breaking news. As of, I believe, just about a minute or so ago, Mayor Karen Bass has declared an emergency and enacted a curfew for one square mile in downtown Los Angeles. So this is actually. Yes, from about a minute or two ago. This just broke. This is Alex Michaelson of Fox la. So they did it does. LAPD says they'll arrest anyone breaking curfew.
Jim Paff
To answer your question, by the way, I want to say one other thing. The question may not be what would go too far. I actually think that this sentiment that's out there right now, Donald Trump could go farther than he ought to and is going to get support. This is an emergency situation. People are feeling how bad this is now, by the way, it's to Donald Trump's credit. I think he's totally restrained and would never do crazy crap. Right. He's going to think through it. He's very method. He's far more methodical than people give him credit for, frankly. He really does understand how to take things in a certain way. But I think there are no, I'm trying, I guess I'm trying to say I don't think there are really very many limits right now. I'd be certain, surprised to see what that is on this issue now. On some other issues, maybe. But when it comes to the immigration thing, what's happening right now, I think people are ready for answers because they're really pissed off. They have. There's been no pushback on what Tom Holman's doing and it's been very aggressive and I think it remains with this.
Tim Pool
As well, but that the curfew is going to be enforced for several days.
Libby Emmons
Nice.
Phil Labonte
Is that once again, before we go, before we move on, do you think the curfew is in response to the nationwide stuff or is it just what's going on in LA now?
Jim Paff
No, it's a combination of Trump and nationwide. They're seeing the political pressure.
Tim Pool
They saw the polls.
Jim Paff
Yeah, exactly.
Tim Pool
And the polls show that not only is Trump popular on immigration when polled, I believe it was. I do have the poll. Let me pull it up. Trump. Trump is popular on the deployment of the National Guard. So I think they're seeing that they are losing this. And by allowing these riots to continue, either LA or otherwise, it's helping Republicans for the midterms. All that's happened already. It's all going to appear in commercials. They're going to be saying, when, when LA burned for three days, it was the Republicans, it was Trump. And then they're going to name their member of Congress who stood with Trump and said, we need law and order, all that stuff.
Jim Paff
This is the, the public approach to getting ratioed. Right. Like Karen Bassett, old school way to do it.
Tim Pool
The polling insider advantage. Do you approve of Trump's national guard deployment? Yes. 59%.
Jim Paff
That is so huge.
Tim Pool
Plus 20.
Phil Labonte
That is.
Jim Paff
I'm going to tell you something really, really big. This bolsters my point earlier. Like. Right. Like he could almost do anything. I mean, he's not going to. And I'm glad he's not. And I'm not even saying he should do everything. But, Tim, your suggestion, he absolutely should be going after that. This should give him the strength to do that and aggressively.
Tim Pool
And this is why they're enacting a curfew now. And they're panicking because they're like, oh, they, they're, this is what we need. You know, Donald Trump needs to be a strong leader and say no and people will approve it. I think in the 2020 riots, Trump did nothing. And I think the idea from Republicans was let them burn their own cities down. I think the reality was, as the president, many people in these areas said, when, when our city burned, Trump did nothing.
Libby Emmons
Well, and people died.
Tim Pool
Yep.
Libby Emmons
I think, yeah, 31 people died.
Tim Pool
Everyone said, oh, if, if Trump deployed the National Guard, they would have accused him of being a fascist, blah, blah, blah. They already did. Trump should have deployed the National Guard, shut down the ride and said, I will keep you safe in these troubling times. And I think it would have, it would have, it would have benefited him.
Jim Paff
And by the way, he's admitted as much. He was just saying, I think yesterday or today, he was just saying, you know, I waited too long and I'm not waiting. So.
Tim Pool
Yep.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
And I think that's exactly right. He has done so much in just a really short period of time because he knows that there's going to be all this pushback. So he just does it and does it and does it and they play whack a mole and, you know, the American people are like, just keep doing it. Just keep doing it. But, yeah, Democrats want to see the kind of. They want to see, like what you were saying about going too far. They want to see it go so far that people are against it. And that's just not happening. No, it's just not happening.
Phil Labonte
No, the Democrats, because of the fact that the Democrats actually want to break the law, right? They want to see act laws not enforced. They want to see, you know, they want to see people that are here illegally be allowed to stay. They want to see the end to ICE raids. They want to see all these things that are not enforcing the law and things that are illegal. So because of that, they have to have the pot, have to have popular support. Because if they don't have popular support and Donald Trump does, then the Trump administration just comes in and puts the hammer down.
Libby Emmons
Well, they have the popular support of a lot of people who can't vote, right? Of like 10 million people that can't vote. They have their support. And that, it turns out, is not as helpful as the popular support of.
Phil Labonte
People who can vote, especially when they're. They're flying Mexican flags.
Libby Emmons
And isn't that so crazy? They're out there like, we hate America. Let us stay. No, like, there's the door.
Phil Labonte
I'd be willing to bet that without the, the images from this past weekend, that poll we just saw, I bet you it wouldn't quite be so. Wouldn't be quite so lopsided.
Jim Paff
Well, keep in mind, too, Democrats for some time have realized that they cannot win elections unless they can put some English on the ball, so to speak. And this initially started with some of the reactions to the 2000 election and some of the approaches that they were trying to take. And in fact, their argument after that, amongst other things, was we cannot have mail ballots. You know, that used to be their argument, but along the way they figured out, oh, and it's also why they started doing this micro targeting stuff. Like I ran in 2006, the marriage amendment in Colorado, and we passed it big. I was fighting against that. You remember that book, the Blueprint, that was about the change in Colorado? The guys who orchestrated the blueprint, one of whom I'm friendly with, by the way, we respect one another because I kicked his butt. But the point is that that paradigm of micro targeting, people doing great data work, expanding it out, the iteration of ActBlue, and so they started to be really good at that. But again, that was not always taking them over the edge. And so they've started to do the radical changes in the way we do voting. So mail voting started. They figured out because of this micro targeting that they, they could do mail voting. Oregon started mail voting I think in 2004, maybe it was in Colorado when I ran that we didn't have mail voting. We had expanded absentee ballots and early voting. But then they went to mail voting and they figured out this mail voting thing is really the key because they know how to work it well and they knew Republicans.
Libby Emmons
Colorado has all mail voting, right?
Jim Paff
It does.
Libby Emmons
Oregon I think. Washington. Yeah, that's not good. I remember that in 2020 we saw Nancy Pelosi being like we have to all mail our ballots. And I was like that's not good.
Jim Paff
But the point I'm making is that they have to twist the game in some way. They have to get English on the ball, they have to go outside the addressing the American people. And that has helped them in recent years. And right now I don't think it's going to help again. We saw last November some evidence of it and I think the crack is starting to break. But that doesn't mean all the risks are gone. But they're. The American people aren't responding to that. And we got to see what the next reiteration is. Riots is part of that, to be candid, or at least it's going to fail. But I think that they think it is.
Libby Emmons
Who are the people that are rioting? Or is it the same contingent from 2020 and trans and climate and everything? Is it those in Gaza? Is it the same people?
Phil Labonte
I mean it's definitely the same, you know, the same type of, type of person. Even if it's not the exact same people, it's still the antifa people. It's people that are, you know, coming out for black bloc exit, you know, get into that kind of stuff. You know, the anti antifa people. So you've got your anarcho communists, your people that are politically disengaged and that are just there for the party because the, the whole rioting thing is very attractive to young adults, young men. They like to throw stuff, they like to get wild. So they'll go and they'll get, you know, smoke some weed, get high or they'll, they'll, you know, have some drinks and get into fights with the cops. That's fun for a lot of people. So it is a conglomeration of a bunch of different groups. But the people that the cops really need to pick up are the ones that are there for the Black bloc.
Jim Paff
But keep in mind this is not in the least organic. It's rated and planned. They get some organic, people are supplying them weapons. Yeah, right.
Tim Pool
Which is why Brian Stelter right now is tweeting that in the real world, L A most Angela's having a normal day and that it's just people seeing clicks and chaos about last weekend's clashes. This is, this is the depravity of people, of the media and this is what they do. Brian Selter has always existed to try and cover up when the Democrats are in panic, they're declaring an emergency, enacting a curfew, the National Guard is being deployed. It's happening literally right now. We played videos, the role of this man and what he's always done is to cover it up. And he says, actually, you know, you know, earlier today he was saying, I think it was today that you're seeing videos from hours or days ago.
Libby Emmons
Ridiculous.
Tim Pool
And it's like, uh huh. And yes, people are concerned about it and it's ongoing. It's remarkable that he's tweeted out at 7 o' clock that people are preying on fears about where last weekend's clashes will go. You mean today's literal right now clashes?
Libby Emmons
Yes, it's right now. This is what, day five. Are we on day five?
Tim Pool
Yep.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, yeah.
Phil Labonte
It is pretty remarkable that he tries to frame it like that. But that is, that has been the, you know, the standard operating procedure of the media for the past, you know, past six or more, maybe 10 years. They'll take something that is clearly an obvious to whoever's watching and they will, they will ridicule Chiron about it or the, the monologue that they're giving, you know, in front of this picture doesn't add up with the reality that's going on behind him. That's, you know, that's the meme.
Jim Paff
You know, it's one thing to be a little kid and you stole the cookie and you weren't supposed to eat it and mom asks you why and you lie and say you didn't. That's one thing. What does it take for a person to really think about what am I going to lie about today to advance it?
Tim Pool
Well, this is what happens when there's no discipline.
Jim Paff
Yeah, that's right.
Tim Pool
Is people are evil.
Jim Paff
And when there's no consequences. Just going right back to the case of the sedition thing. I mean, there are no consequences anywhere. That creates a moral hazard. That's what A moral hazard is when you talk about it from an insurance respect.
Tim Pool
Let's talk about consequences. We have this story from The Seattle Times. U.S. rep. Lamonica McIver indicted on federal charges from skirmish at New Jersey Immigration center. They say that she was indicted Tuesday on federal charges alleging she impeded to interfere with immigration officer outside of New Jersey detention center. That's insane. By the way, she's on video closed.
Libby Emmons
Fist punching the guy and she's wearing red. You can see her amid a sea of people on earth tones.
Tim Pool
Yep. She's a Democrat being she's been charged in a complaint by HABA last month with two assault charges. She's now additionally been indicted on further charges. So look, this Trump admin not playing around. I want to see more of this stuff and I think what we are all eager to see going beyond just obviously this woman assaulted an officer. We want to see the arrests of the corruption at the federal level when these, when the J6 committee was accused of tampering with witnesses. I want to see charges.
Libby Emmons
I don't know why they let off Mayor Ross Baraka in Newark who was also involved in this whole thing. And I do competing things. Why did they let him off?
Tim Pool
Because people misunderstood the video when it was first released. They thought the scuffle happened first and then the arrest. The scuffle followed the arrest. So they went into the ICE facility. They were, they were not. They didn't break in. They didn't fight their way in. And they were told he has to leave. And he kept refusing. And they said, I will trespass if you don't. And then the DHS video jump cuts, but they leave DHS then. I believe it was ice. Whoever was there then goes out of the facility to arrest him, triggering the scuffle. That's when Rhett McIver punches the ICE agent. So they probably said, we can't get this guy trespassing. He left when we told him to leave. And then they started arrest him and then everyone starts fighting. Yeah, right. Yeah, she punched a fed.
Libby Emmons
Ross Baraka's dad was Amiri Baraka, who was originally the black nationalist poet Leroy Jones, who wrote Dutchman about the white woman on the subway who, you know, murders this black guy. But he, I mean, Ross Baraka grew up in a very black nationalist, socialist type of home in Newark, New Jersey. And he was actually on Lauryn Hill's Miseducation of Lauryn Hill in 1998.
Phil Labonte
Was he?
Libby Emmons
Yes, he was.
Phil Labonte
What did he do?
Libby Emmons
He. I don't know. He was featured on One of the tracks.
Phil Labonte
Really?
Libby Emmons
Yeah. But his mom founded a record company, was co founder of Sugar Hill Records.
Phil Labonte
I didn't know that.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, he's basically like black commie royalty.
Phil Labonte
I'm looking up the. The record to see.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
What?
Tim Pool
Gavin Newsom's going to be giving a an address in 20 minutes for those that are watching live. Everybody else tomorrow will probably already know, but I imagine he's going to blame Donald Trump for all the rioting and all the violence. Maxine Waters has already been blaming Trump. Trump called the National Guard because of the violence. There's a video of leftists mocking ICE agents who are trapped in a federal facility and can't get out because they're throwing things at them. And then the Democrats come out saying, never happened. Trump is actually the one who started all the violence.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, they love to blame Trump for all of their policies, for their own policies. That's what failed the United States.
Tim Pool
Stop debating. I don't care. Just arrest people. ICE go out, make the arrest. You got to make arrest. Deport the people. You got to deport. And Democrats can scream into the wind all they want.
Phil Labonte
Once they have, you know, once the Marines are actually on site, they can start doing that. I guess the Marines are still holed up out of town, doing some more training for probably riot gear training, because generally the Marines have not been doing riot stuff for past 20 years or so.
Tim Pool
Indeed. Well, we have the announcements from the mayor here that just went up a few minutes ago. Let's play it. I wanted to let the city know that I have declared a local emergency and issued a curfew for downtown Los Angeles to stop the vandalism, to stop the looting. Many businesses have now been affected by or vandalized. Last night, there were 23 businesses that were looted. Wow. And I think that if you drive through downtown la, the graffiti is everywhere and has caused significant damages to businesses and a number of properties. So my message to you is if you do not live or work in downtown la, avoid the area. Law enforcement will arrest individuals who break the curfew and you will be prosecuted. Hundreds of officers from police and sheriff departments from across the region and state are working alongside LAPD through a unified command structure. The curfew will be in place tonight from 8:00pm until 6:00am you know.
Jim Paff
Oh, I was going to say, you know, thank you, Donald Trump. One, two. Thank you. I think the police chief, because at the end of the day, in the background, you know, there's discussions and he's like, listen, I know I have to answer to you, but stop the stupidity.
Phil Labonte
And I mean, yeah, I assume that those conversations are going on, but I think that one of the more important things that I'm getting from this is this is one more like egg on the face of the Democrats to have to come out and do this after they've been swearing up and down for the past five days, no, everything's fine, it was Donald Trump, blah, blah, blah, everything was fine, it's not a problem. There are no, there is no violence. Maxine Waters just earlier today there was no violence anywhere, etc. Etc. And now you see the Democrat, you know, mayor coming out saying, okay, we have to 23.
Tim Pool
That's a lot businesses looted. Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Oh, I didn't know that.
Jim Paff
By the way. I think they're mostly minority owned businesses too.
Tim Pool
If I remember correct, downtown LA is a slum already a horrible city. I'm sorry, I will rag on LA all day. People need to understand this. LA is actually relatively small. LA county is usually what people refer to, but it's all, everyone always wants to move to the surrounding areas. Outside of la it's one big massive metro. Downtown LA is just, you know, it's always really, it was, it was crazy me when I lived in la because most cities have a vibrant downtown, but people who live in la, quote, unquote, avoid downtown. They don't want to go anywhere near it. It's not where the, the nightlife is, not where it's not the center of the, of the town. It's actually rather dirty and run down.
Jim Paff
Don't grow on the downtown interstates. Go on the outside interstates and get out of there.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, look man, I like hanging out in Lakeview, but that, that's the only area that I'm going to go to, you know, I mean even Hollywood's kind of a mess.
Tim Pool
Hollywood is a, is a, is terrible. It's disgusting.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Tim Pool
I mean, I gotta tell you, L.A. hollywood, they, they market this dream and they want people to believe like in American Idol you're going to Hollywood.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
You show up in Hollywood, you'll be like, I didn't want to come here.
Libby Emmons
What happened was the way it's always been. Yeah, the way it's, Hollywood always been like that. It's always been gross.
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, at least as long as I've known.
Phil Labonte
70S and 80s, it was pretty, I.
Libby Emmons
Mean, yeah, I haven't spent a ton of time in L. A. Yeah, it's.
Phil Labonte
It'S always been kind of Hollywood is, it's, it's that Was kind of what was attractive about it to like the, the kind of, the rock kind of.
Libby Emmons
Genre that makes a lot of.
Tim Pool
Let me just put it this way. There's many motels that offer a 40 minute nap.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
Oh, my goodness, how convenient. Just for the afternoon.
Tim Pool
Just want to take a nap.
Jim Paff
That was the joke at the beginning of the end of the Julie Roberts movie or whatever when she was the prostitute.
Phil Labonte
Pretty woman.
Gavin Newsom
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Huh? Nothing.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. Pretty Woman.
Phil Labonte
Pretty woman.
Jim Paff
Yeah. So sorry. And, and that was the Hollywood. Everyone comes and gets it, you know. And that was the joke. Right? I mean, yeah, that's even back in the 80s, so no doubt about it. It was crap.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah. And Roseanne was telling us, you know, everyone was doing coke.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Everyone.
Phil Labonte
Well, that's part of why it was crap is because everybody's high and you.
Tim Pool
Know, everybody, everybody has this romanticized view of Los Angeles and they want to go there and it's pretty awful.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
The weather's really nice, though.
Libby Emmons
Well, that's what I disagree.
Tim Pool
San Diego has really nice weather.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Jim Paff
San Diego's the bomb.
Tim Pool
I don't, you know, LA has smog and depending on how far inland you go, it's a lot of. It's a lot of smog and fog.
Libby Emmons
Laguna Beach, a lot of. You need a lot of moisturizer in L. A. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Well, I guess if you're in Santa Monica, you're all right.
Libby Emmons
Yes. I like Santa Monica.
Tim Pool
Yep. As most people do.
Libby Emmons
It's nice there. It's rich, it's bougie. Yes.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
People like it's because it's nice. Rich.
Tim Pool
And, and the Palisades.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Well, the Palisades used to be nice.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
The real estate market has been on, on fire down there. Shout out to Doug Polk on kill Tony. I stole that joke from him. His bit, his, his, his kill Tony routine was actually really good. I was impressed. Yeah.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
So, I mean, look, the, the fact that they're having the curfew, I think that's good. It's good for Republicans, it's good for conservatives, it's good for LA because they're gonna. There might be fewer looting, a few fewer lootings and, and such. So, you know, it's, it's good to see them move. I'm actually surprised that they're, that they're moving this fast. I would have thought they would. It would have taken a few more days for them to feel the pinch.
Libby Emmons
But I've loved the memes about the rooftop Koreans.
Phil Labonte
Oh, do you follow the original rooftop Korean? No, actually On Twitter.
Libby Emmons
Really?
Tim Pool
Really?
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
That's amazing.
Jim Paff
Oh, wow.
Libby Emmons
Because I remember that in like. What was it, 92. Yeah, yeah, I remember that whole standoff. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Cops, the National Guard were like, we don't care about you, and then left. And so they were like log and load.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Name is Tony Moon. It's. His ad is@roof Korean7. And his like, his actual guy.
Tim Pool
Yeah, his bio is for an interview.
Phil Labonte
His bio is American Patriot, Follower of Jesus. 1992. OG Roof Korean, 2021.
Libby Emmons
Oh, he looks like a badass hunter.
Phil Labonte
2021. J6DC Tourist.
Jim Paff
I love that profile.
Tim Pool
Is that real?
Phil Labonte
Yeah, that.
Tim Pool
I'm like, did he actually do those things?
Phil Labonte
He is alleged to be this. Is he joined.
Tim Pool
I know, I know, but I'm saying, did he actually go to J6?
Phil Labonte
I don't know.
Tim Pool
I'd like to interview that man.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, let's. Yeah, we should totally.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this story. We have this from UPA.com Body found 100 plus arrested amid violent LA protests of ICE raids. Yeah, it's kind of funny. This is on the back half of the show, but they found a corpse near where all the business said businesses had been looted. And they're not revealing much information right now. They're saying local law enforcement investigating the death of a man whose body was found on a downtown LA sidewalk early Tuesday where protests and looting have occurred. The unidentified man was dead. The cause of death is being investigated. I'm going to go ahead and say it is related to the riots, but let's just entertain this. Maybe, maybe it's not directly, but I'd imagine if it was something like an overdose, the likelihood of survival was substantially higher if police weren't tied up with riots. So this is what happens when police are drawn away and they can't do their jobs. They're not patrolling, you get dead bodies and. And the LA riots now have one confirmed death. We don't know. We don't know. I'm not saying he died because of rioting, but he died in. He died in the. Where. Where they were rioting.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. I wonder what happened to him.
Tim Pool
Maybe the Democrats would argue he simply was walking down the street before suffering from a congenital heart defect and then just collapsing. And it's a sad, tragic story.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that's probably what they'll say. Yeah, that's probably what happened.
Tim Pool
Or he could have been looting a business and got into a fight or, you know, got hit and. By. Hit by a brick.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, well, maybe he got hit by a rubber bullet and now everyone will get to sue. Because my favorite thing is how the police are not supposed to use lethal measures, which. Okay, so then they use the non lethal measures, which.
Tim Pool
No, they don't.
Libby Emmons
Sometimes they do.
Tim Pool
They're called less lethal.
Libby Emmons
Less lethal. Right. But then people sue when they get hit with it. And it's like you were literally rioting and they. They shot you with a rubber bullet, and you have a big bruise on your leg.
Tim Pool
Well, that Australian lady, the Australian reporter wasn't riding. That's the issue.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
There's also this video. And you know, I hate to defenders, rioters do get.
Libby Emmons
Do sue for this stuff.
Tim Pool
And I hate to defend this guy because he actually appears to be a communist, but he's antagonizing a cop and yelling at him, saying, what's your name and what's your badge number? That's not illegal. And then the guy says, I'm gonna pop you. And he goes, for what? For standing here asking you a question. And then the guy, the cop shoots him with the 40 millimeter.
Libby Emmons
Oh, yeah. That's not.
Tim Pool
And then the guy says, yo. And he yells at the supervisor, like, what's that guy's name? He just shot me. They ignore him. And then the guy shoots him again. And people are on X, laughing, and I'm being like, this is how you lose. Yeah, that's how you lose. You're allowed to be annoying. You can't. Cops can't just pop people with 40 millimeter foam rounds because a guy's being annoying.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that. That is a little much. I can see how you're tempted, but it's a little much. You got to. You got to reign that in.
Tim Pool
Yeah. I mean, like, you know, I heard that he got shot in the groin point blank. And I said, I certainly enjoy videos where people, you know, get a football in the groin.
Libby Emmons
Sure.
Tim Pool
But I understand, you know, you can't defend that. The cop should have done that. First of all, he's wasting ammo. It should be. Well, yeah, he's shooting a guy in the groin.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
I mean, because he got emotional now.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
You might. You see somebody about to throw a brick, and this is what these things are for. Not some guy yelling at you.
Phil Labonte
100% true.
Libby Emmons
But also, I can see how it be tempting.
Phil Labonte
I'm not saying nothing, by the way.
Jim Paff
I was trying to find it here. I found it somewhere. But somebody calculated that National Guard troops are called out since about the 60s. On an average, about every five to seven years.
Tim Pool
Really?
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Well, I know the Ferguson riots. It's funny when they're like, Donald Trump is sending the military against the people. Obama did it.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
In Ferguson. He said National Guard. It's not literally Obama, but the, the governor.
Jim Paff
The last LA riots in 92, you know, I mean, George.
Tim Pool
Well, that was, Wasn't the Army. Was that. Was it only National Guard?
Jim Paff
I think it was. I think. Well, no, they had, they had Marines.
Tim Pool
There as well, too, because that was something that the Marines were a little funky in.
Jim Paff
What, how they reacted.
Tim Pool
But I don't think, I don't think we've seen riots that bad. I mean, like the, the Summer of Love riots nationwide, so they escalate in a different way. But the LA riots, they were murdering people. Like, I guess the BLM riots were worse. Yeah, I guess. Actually, it's fair to say the BLM rights were worse and Trump did nothing. And I'm, and I'm really upset. I'm pissed off about it.
Libby Emmons
You think the BLM riots were worse?
Tim Pool
36 deaths nationwide.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
The fire. Dollars and billions firebombing of federal buildings for three months in the Pacific Northwest. And Trump did nothing.
Libby Emmons
Well, he kept talking to the mayors and stuff, and the mayors were like, no, we have it under control. You don't need to call in the National Guard. He kept threatening to call in the National Guard without actually doing it.
Tim Pool
And he should have.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, and he should have instead.
Phil Labonte
Absolutely should have.
Tim Pool
You know. You know, I'll say this, though.
Libby Emmons
Two boys might not have been killed at the, whatever the Capitol Hill occupied protest thing.
Tim Pool
What, Jump right backwards. He sends in the police to Lafayette, you know, outside the White House, and clears out the riots, and he gets attacked for it. He lets the riots take place all across the country. And he could have done something about it. I think, I think Trump should have stood down during the insurrection, the leftist insurrection. M29 in 2020. You had a thousand, two thousand or so rioters, hundreds of federal law enforcement injured. They firebombed St. John's Church. TRUMP should have issued a statement saying, due to a serious concern about the, about injury to peaceful protesters because of the riots, we will be withdrawing law enforcement and hope things de. Escalate. And then what would the leftists have done? They'd have stormed the White House.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And you would have had an M29, White House. Trump in the emergency bunker. People would be ransacking it. And he'd say, oh, heavens. Me, the far left. And I've, I've heard people say to me, when I tell them this, they're like, yeah, but Then the media would claim he. He failed and he's a bad leader. And then Trump need only say, you know, I was as surprised as you that the far left was willing to engage in insurrection because the media kept saying they were peaceful, peaceful protests, and so we backed off. And they were wrong. That's what he should have done. Because that's what Pelosi did on January 6th.
Libby Emmons
Yes, she did. She just lied.
Tim Pool
And everyone wondered why police and National Guard and no one came out when they knew these people were gonna be there. And it's because Pelosi. What is she. Isn't it on camera? She's saying, I made this happen.
Libby Emmons
Yes. And she said. She also said on camera that this is something that they would regret not having acted more swiftly to do anything.
Tim Pool
And it was her call.
Libby Emmons
It was her call.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Jim Paff
By the way, Ramesh Panuru wrote, I think, in the Wall Street Journal just recently, and he made this statement about all the problems with the Trump presidency. One of them was, and he doesn't have the advisors who restrain him anymore, even though it's ultimately Donald Trump's fault in his first administration. No, he does have the right advisors right now because he is thinking much more clearly through these things and acting on them. I think many like what you're talking about, Tim. I agree. And I think he should have allowed that to be shown for exactly what it was. You don't wait till January 6 to do that, by the way, when you're going out of office. And that's a serious issue here. Like, he's got the right people around. It's not perfect. Have some criticisms, but this is really much more fantastic than these ninnies, these Mike Pence style ninnies that. And I say this, by the way, and I went to church with Mike and Karen for five years, and Mike introduced me to my first job. But, you know, I. These kind of crazy ways of thinking about Washington, D.C. that are very Mike Pence style are absurd. And Donald Trump's not doing that this time. And I think we actually have a really real hope when we're talking about, no, go take some freaking action, that he might do it and it will provide benefits. Because at the base of everything in politics is not what do the polls say right now? Or what are people. What's the trend at the moment of what I need to be doing, The American people at least like real action on the principle. Yeah. And to take on, again, as we were talking about the seditious behavior, to take it on and be direct with It. Even if you get a little bit of a plunge of response and you stay with it and get results, that's what people are looking for. They're not waiting for you to figure out what they are saying. There's someone that said, I can't remember what leader it was, but there was some famous person in the past that said, oh, there are my people. Let me see where they are going so I can lead them. Right. That is not what you do in politics. You go lead and the people will be inspired and they follow. And that's actually one of the great things about Donald Trump, with all his faults, that's one of the great things that we have as an example, if people will take it once he's off the scene. Yeah.
Phil Labonte
I mean, look, I do think that the Trump administration probably has more leeway than people think that he does. Especially when you hear such consternation about the fact that Donald Trump is doing anything at all. The government does things that are clearly 100% within the purview of the federal government, enforce the existing laws passed by Congress, and if necessary, protect the federal agents that are enforcing those laws. Right. Those are unquestionably things that the federal government has the authority to do. And people are making such a big deal about it. I think that it turns into a bit of a Chicken Little, which is something that the left has done well for the past 15 years, turns into a Chicken Little saying the sky is falling because they're just enforcing the law, when really they might be able to actually bend the law a little bit and get away with it for the broader population. But I don't know. I don't know how much Donald Trump has in him to actually do that. Because no matter how much the left wants to paint him as such a terrible authoritarian that wants to do all these terrible things, I don't buy that for one second. And I think that his first administration was evidence of that. The fact that he was trying to keep from being the authoritarian president. He always wants to be the guy that gets along. He forgives people that he had, or he lets bygones be bygones of previous disagreements or whatever.
Tim Pool
So Newsom's supposed to speak in, in a few minutes. I guess we'll. We'll pull that up. They say it's going to be on X. I guess that's wild.
Libby Emmons
He's just putting it on X.
Phil Labonte
Good for him.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, Tick Tock, Instagram, Facebook, and Exit says, well, all of it. Yeah, I guess Governor Newsom's Address democracy at a crossroads. He's running.
Libby Emmons
Oh, he is for sure.
Jim Paff
Oh yeah. Heck yeah.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. You know what he looks like though is a lizard. Dastardly do right. You know that guy? What's his name? Dirk Dastardly. I always thought he looked like Rocky and Billwinkle.
Tim Pool
Dirk Dastardly, Yes.
Libby Emmons
Did you not know Dirk Dastardly? I thought he was always Rocky and Bullwinkle.
Phil Labonte
Clean cut Joker. The pointy clean cut looking joker. Because Joker's got a couple different looks.
Tim Pool
Yeah, he looks more like the joker to me or two face.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, a little bit maybe.
Phil Labonte
Yes.
Tim Pool
That, that who you, that's who you think he looks like?
Libby Emmons
Yeah, no, that's not a good picture of him normally. He's got like the teeth. It's the teeth really.
Tim Pool
I think, I think, I think he's, he's Harvey Dent.
Libby Emmons
Oh yeah. He's definitely running though. Yeah, whatever it is. And he has to be president.
Tim Pool
I gotta be honest, if he did fall halfway into a vat of chemicals or get like splashed acid on his face while like, you know, by a super, like by a, by a mobster and then he became two faced, I might vote for him. I'd be like, well, you know. Well, because then the good half comes out. You know what I mean?
Libby Emmons
Right. Interesting.
Jim Paff
You know, I was just contemplating the fact earlier today that first of all, it's been 13 years since 2012 when Mitt Romney was the, the presidential candidate with the best hair ever.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Jim Paff
And Gavin Newsom just may be able to go beyond that if he really works hard.
Phil Labonte
He does have pretty great hair. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know if it's natural.
Libby Emmons
Natural or not, but it's, it's very gel Jellish.
Tim Pool
All right, he's live or the live player is up. So we'll. Yeah, I, you know, I, I really don't want to hear what he has to say, but I think I kind of have to play it because it's breaking news with these massive riots going on across the country.
Phil Labonte
So I'm, I'm curious to be honest with you.
Tim Pool
What if it's just completely unrelated to anything and he was just like, you know, I went to in and out.
Phil Labonte
Talk about the California, talking about the rail project.
Tim Pool
I went to in and out and had a. Oh, here, here we go. There's no sound. Is that his fault or our fault?
Phil Labonte
That's kind of hilarious.
Jim Paff
I think it's theirs.
Tim Pool
Yeah, this is his fault. Wait, what? Yeah, there's no sound.
Jim Paff
It's them.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's no sound coming from him.
Jim Paff
Yeah, got the crack team on it.
Tim Pool
No, this can't be right. Yeah, this is his fault.
Phil Labonte
That's totally.
Tim Pool
You checked your computer?
Libby Emmons
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Phil Labonte
It's. That's. That's.
Libby Emmons
It's not playing.
Tim Pool
No, I mean, you're on X watching.
Libby Emmons
I'm on X watching his speech and it's not playing.
Phil Labonte
There's no audio.
Tim Pool
Oh, my God. No way. Come on.
Libby Emmons
What a loser.
Tim Pool
Come on. I still have to believe we're doing something wrong.
Libby Emmons
Well, how come I can't hear it on my laptop?
Phil Labonte
I can't hear it online.
Jim Paff
I'm telling you, I just checked it, too.
Phil Labonte
That's.
Tim Pool
Oh, he's not live anymore.
Jim Paff
Wait, it is on mine.
Tim Pool
It is on yours.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that's a. I'm going to check my phone. That's funny.
Tim Pool
There's no sound.
Libby Emmons
That's. That's.
Tim Pool
Yo, I got my phone pulled up. I turned the volume all the way up. There's nothing. Is it maybe just X People are.
Libby Emmons
Singing to no audio.
Tim Pool
No way. This is the funniest thing ever.
Libby Emmons
What a clown.
Tim Pool
Maybe. Maybe that's the point. Maybe he had nothing to say. And he's going. And he's just going, peas and carrots and peas and carrots. He's in Carrots, peas and carrots. And then what's going to happen is after they rap, he's going to be like. I said, oh. Oh. It was a. It was a great speech. I can't remember what I said. Is this for real? There's no sound.
Phil Labonte
That's hilarious.
Tim Pool
People are saying, I'm trying. I pulled up his Instagram and there's nothing here. Even on extra saying it.
Jim Paff
Yep.
Gavin Newsom
Everyone.
Tim Pool
Everyone is saying, no, no audio.
Phil Labonte
You clown.
Jim Paff
You got 19, 000 people.
Tim Pool
People are responding to the. Yep, they shut it up.
Phil Labonte
Clown.
Libby Emmons
That is.
Tim Pool
I am so glad we pulled this up. Are they going to fix it? Wow.
Phil Labonte
That's hilarious.
Libby Emmons
That is amazing. That is just amazing.
Jim Paff
That was the start of his presidential campaign. Right?
Phil Labonte
Perfect.
Libby Emmons
You know what? The only. The only other start of a presidential campaign that was worse was when Ron Desantis launched his campaign on X. And that was.
Tim Pool
No, they shut it down.
Libby Emmons
Terrible.
Tim Pool
It's gone.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. What clowns. That's amazing.
Phil Labonte
Embarrassing.
Jim Paff
Oh, you know, he's pissed in the.
Libby Emmons
Background right now with all those resources. It's still pinned.
Tim Pool
He might actually unhinge his jaw and then eat them. Like the lizard snake person.
Libby Emmons
He is considered assume his entire staff. But somebody's getting fired. Somebody's getting fired by the way.
Jim Paff
There were 34,000 people that got into it by that time. That is hilarious.
Libby Emmons
That is.
Jim Paff
Yeah.
Tim Pool
All the responses on xa no audio. No audio like to his post.
Libby Emmons
Stunning.
Tim Pool
Come on, come on. Gavin. What are you. What. What are you doing? Is, Is he alive?
Phil Labonte
You joke.
Tim Pool
I know. What can we ar. Well, I guess it's archived on this show. I'm like, I want to save that for the, for, for the historical record.
Jim Paff
Kevin Newsom, he's a non starter.
Phil Labonte
All you need to do is pull out the iPhone and open up your, you know, your X app. It's very simple.
Tim Pool
This is amazing. There is no sound.
Jim Paff
There are 42000 people in there right now.
Libby Emmons
Right? There's people are.
Tim Pool
That's not how Twitter works. 40000 people have viewed the video.
Jim Paff
Yeah, yeah, but, but what I'm saying.
Libby Emmons
People are now going in.
Jim Paff
It's still rolling up. And he totally missed his opportunity.
Tim Pool
I still to this day the stupidest thing Elon did was change concurrent viewership on X into static views because that burned all advertising. We, we can't, we can't sell against X anymore because nobody. It's. It's playing by its own unique set of rules. And so it's just excluded now from all ad deals.
Jim Paff
But you know, he did it because when you see the report on the back end, it's all short views.
Tim Pool
So is it working now?
Libby Emmons
He's back.
Gavin Newsom
Last weekend, federal agents conducted large scale workplace where and around Los Angeles.
Libby Emmons
You want me to mute it as I speak?
Tim Pool
But where's that? Where is it?
Phil Labonte
Governor, it's on Gavin Newsom. He's. Lavan.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
This is all we're seeing is I'm.
Jim Paff
I'm getting the blue screen.
Tim Pool
So yeah, blue screen.
Libby Emmons
I'm.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, you click it.
Libby Emmons
I have it right there.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Blue screen.
Libby Emmons
Well, yeah, it's weird. Is it blue screen happening right now?
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I'm watching it on my, on my laptop here.
Tim Pool
It's at Gavin Newsom.
Jim Paff
Yeah. Hard refresh.
Libby Emmons
Blue screen at CA Governor. I have CA Governor up.
Tim Pool
CA Governor. Ah. They, they moved it over near a.
Gavin Newsom
Home Depot parking lot. They began grabbing people. A deliberate targeting of a heavily Latino suburb.
Jim Paff
A similar thing.
Libby Emmons
Is that what happened? I thought we.
Gavin Newsom
In other actions. A US citizen nine months pregnant was arrested. A four year old girl taken families separated, friends quite literally disappearing in response. Everyday Angelenos came out to exercise their constitutional right to free speech and assembly to protest their government's actions. In turn, the state of California and the city and county of Los Angeles sent our police officers to help keep the peace. And with some exceptions, they were successful. Like many states, California is no stranger to this sort of unrest. We manage it regularly and with our own law enforcement. But this, again, was different. What then ensued was the use of tear gas, flashbang grenades, rubber bullets, federal agents detaining people and undermining their due process rights. Donald Trump, without consulting California law enforcement leaders, commandeered 2,000 of our state's National Guard members to deploy on our streets illegally and for no reason.
Tim Pool
It's legal. Undertime.
Gavin Newsom
This brazen abuse of power by a sitting president inflamed a combustible situation.
Tim Pool
A judge told you so shut up.
Gavin Newsom
Our officers also, there was no graded Home Depot at risk.
Jim Paff
He doesn't know.
Gavin Newsom
He doubled down on his dangerous National Guard deployment by fanning the flames even harder. And the President. He did it on purpose. As the news spread throughout la, anxiety for family and friends ramped up. Protests started again. By night, several dozen lawbreakers became violent and destructive. They vandalized property. They tried to assault police officers. Many of you have seen the video clips of cars burning on cable news. That was before violence. You're going to be held to account. That kind of criminal behavior will not be tolerated. Full stop. Already more than 220 people have been arrested and we're reviewing tapes to build additional cases. And people will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Again, thanks to our law enforcement officers and the majority of Angelenos who protested peacefully, the situation was winding down and was concentrated in just a few square blocks downtown.
Libby Emmons
But it's still happening. That's why there's a crisis.
Gavin Newsom
That's not what Donald Trump wanted. He again chose escalation. He chose more force. He chose theatrics over public safety. He federalized another 2,000 Guard members. He deployed more than 700 active U.S. marines.
Libby Emmons
They're on stage.
Tim Pool
These are the men and women trained.
Gavin Newsom
Foreign combat, not domestic.
Tim Pool
That's why they're being trained. Actually, that's not correct.
Gavin Newsom
We honor this.
Tim Pool
Trained for. We honor domestic crime.
Gavin Newsom
But we do not want our streets militarized by our own Democrats. Not in la, not in California, not anywhere. We're seeing unmarked cars, unmarked cars in school parking lots, kids afraid of attending their own graduation.
Libby Emmons
Well, maybe their parents shouldn't have dragged.
Tim Pool
Him into the country.
Gavin Newsom
Military dragnet. This is all across Los Angeles. Well, ridiculous stated intent to just go after violent.
Phil Labonte
I'm going to blame Donald Trump for.
Gavin Newsom
All the things dishwashers, California gardeners, day Laborers and seamstresses.
Tim Pool
Good. That's just fine.
Libby Emmons
It doesn't matter what they're like, you know, low wage.
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no. I did not traumatize. I voted for 10 times this demand. Beautiful. Bill.
Gavin Newsom
California will keep fighting. We'll keep finding all of our people. Including in the courts. Just yesterday we filed a legal all verifiable reckless deployment of American troops to a major American city. Today we sought an emergency court order to stop the use of the American military to engage in law enforcement activities across Los Angeles.
Tim Pool
And the judge denied you.
Gavin Newsom
Some of us could be snatched off.
Libby Emmons
He didn't mention that part. Doesn't mention the judge said no.
Gavin Newsom
Or skin color. Then none of us are safe. Authoritarian regimes begin by targeting people who are least able to defend themselves. But they do not guilty. Stop there. You mean Trump and his loyalists. They thrive on division because it allows them to take more power and exert even more control. And by the way, Trump. He's not opposed to lawlessness and violence.
Tim Pool
As long as him.
Gavin Newsom
What more evidence do we need than January.
Libby Emmons
January6.
Tim Pool
Take a drink.
Libby Emmons
Yes.
Gavin Newsom
Take time. Reflect. Favorite perilous moment. A president who wants to be bound by no law or constitution.
Phil Labonte
Unreal.
Gavin Newsom
Perpetuating a uniform.
Jim Paff
We could have put a bingo card on American tradition.
Libby Emmons
We should have done this is a.
Gavin Newsom
President who in just over 140 days has fired government watchdogs that could hold him accountable.
Tim Pool
We get it. Gavin. You're running for office.
Gavin Newsom
He's declared a war. A war on culture.
Libby Emmons
Could you imagine four years of having.
Gavin Newsom
Science are vanishing. He's delegitimizing news organizations. And he's assaulting the First Amendment.
Libby Emmons
I don't think that's.
Gavin Newsom
And the threat of defunding them.
Libby Emmons
I think they delegitimized himself.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Gavin Newsom
Universities.
Tim Pool
He's actually expanded access.
Gavin Newsom
He's targeting law firms.
Libby Emmons
Biden canceled. 450 presidents.
Gavin Newsom
Foundations of an orderly in civilization.
Libby Emmons
And Trump reigns.
Gavin Newsom
Calling for a sitting governor to be arrested for no other reason.
Phil Labonte
In his own words.
Jim Paff
For getting elected. Goodness.
Gavin Newsom
And we all know this.
Tim Pool
He begs to be arrested.
Gavin Newsom
The United States.
Libby Emmons
He was like go ahead and write. Rest me. Go ahead.
Tim Pool
Come on. I can take it.
Libby Emmons
It's like all he wants in life.
Jim Paff
Stop.
Tim Pool
Gavin. I don't.
Libby Emmons
All he wants is to be sitting there in handcuffs.
Phil Labonte
Just sounds thirsty in Los Angeles.
Gavin Newsom
It sounds thirsty to commandeer the National Guard.
Tim Pool
We need to get a program where I can draw.
Gavin Newsom
This is about.
Tim Pool
So I can add a mustache. Yeah.
Gavin Newsom
Really is about you. California may be first, but it clearly will not end here. Other states are next. Democracy is next.
Libby Emmons
That's what we've got going on. That's how we got here with democracy. That's what we have. That's what we're doing.
Gavin Newsom
A wrecking ball to our founding fathers historic project 3Co/ branches of independent government are no longer any checks and balance.
Tim Pool
You know what his problem is through the speech where to he's going too heavy.
Gavin Newsom
Speaker Johnson has something I got, I.
Tim Pool
Got some print are Gavin the role of here's my advice for you marketing wise. The first thing is fix your audio before going live. The second is it's called less is more died.
Gavin Newsom
Right See this kind of moment. It's time for all.
Libby Emmons
How is he still going? Is anyone still listening? We're not.
Gavin Newsom
You said it best in a democracy.
Jim Paff
The most important Justice Brandeis said it best like you're going into this presidency techno.
Gavin Newsom
It's certainly not cratic. The most important office is office of.
Jim Paff
10 minutes done at this. Five minutes done at this moment.
Gavin Newsom
We all need to stand up and be held to account a higher level of accountability. If you exercise your first Amendment rights, please, please do it peacefully. I know many of you are feeling deep anxiety, stress and fear. But I want you to know that you are the antidote to that fear and that anxiety. What Donald Trump wants most is your fealty, your silence to be complicit in this moment. Do not give in to him.
Tim Pool
I think it's time to occupy California. So here's what I would say. Just, you know, give some advice to Gavin Newsom. In terms of public relations. When you hammer literally every point imaginable all at once, it becomes incomprehensible. And the important thing to remember is people won't remember what you said. They'll remember how you made them feel. Feel. So what Gavin Newsom needs to do, you know, if he wanted to actually run for office successfully, is to address a single point of contention that has people worried which would. Here's my, here's what I would do. I would, I would point to the military deployment as the point of contention and say it is not the federal government's job to intervene in the state's handling of their local laws as it pertains to protests or, or violence. We do that. He could have then said Donald Trump jumped the gun in the deployment of US military into our streets, terrifying our neighbors. Whether it was right or not, at the point it was done without consideration for the safety and, and the feeling and the, the, the, the states like of the. Of the people of the state. Take one point and then say, he shouldn't have done it. Make them feel anxiety and then be done. Instead, he goes on there and says, trump is Hitler. And, you know, I'm literally six. Yeah. He's like throwing in J6 confused the whole thing. And he's. He's trying to almost a reaction. I think the reason why he went that route is because most people feel anxiety due to the lawlessness. So he has to invoke J6 to try and redirect the anxiety that people are feeling towards Trump and blame Trump for. It's not going to work.
Libby Emmons
And that was one day. He's got five now. That was a day.
Tim Pool
Well, he needs to consider. Listen, when. When Cash and Dan were talking about Epstein, they made a massive mistake as a PR blunder.
Jim Paff
Okay?
Tim Pool
And I like those guys. Cash said to Rogan, look, there's. There's no way in or out. You know, we have all the video footage. You'll see it. So no one could have gotten in there. And then it's just like, immediately. Except the person who found the body, right? What, the paramedics. Come on. There are people there. That's stupid response or Dan not addressing his past comments and sentiments on this. You got to be real with people. You got to say, listen, I, you know, I had a show and I often talked about my skepticism over the story of Epstein, but now that I got in there and saw the evidence, I got nothing to add. I mean, it looks like it's a suicide. Instead, they give you this answer that neglects the existing information that already is in our minds. They don't get past that hurdle. The hurdle for Governor Newsom right now is that people like that Trump deployed the military. Yeah, people like that Trump is enforcing immigration laws. He needs to address that and then redirect. He didn't do it because he's bad at what he does now. Hey, look at me. I never. I never want a governorship, but let's just say this right now. His audio wasn't working. Okay? Run for president and have that happen. But we do got to go to your chat. So my friends, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, literally everyone. Got a neighbor. You guys ever talk? Maybe he is leaning over the. The wooden fence, but you can only see his eyes. You chat to him periodically for advice. Tell him to watch Tim cast IRO return the vice to him. We're gonna have that uncensored call and show@rumble.com timcast irl so don't miss it. But for now, we'll grab your chats. All right, let's grab your rumble rants, my friends. Shannon Wilder, always the first, says, I'm going to start calling Tim Ms. Cleo because he predicted the Summer of Love two electric boogaloo months in advance. Who is putting the Tim was right jar next to the Alex Jones was right jar? I'll take credit for a few things right now. I predicted all of the Democrat projects to find the liberal Joe Rogan before the elect, before Trump won, when we were all talking about how we're doing so well and then Trump wins, I said, Democrats are going to dump millions of dollars. I literally even said 20 million. I said, they can spend 25 million on Rachel Maddow. They can put 20 million into finding prominent figures and propping them up on social media. They're going to put their faces every year. And what they do, Project SAM, $20 million to try and speak to American men. And I was sitting down with Sam Cedar. Hi, Sam. On this. Cause I know he watches every single episode. And we were talking about the potentials for civil war. And he said, it's not going to happen. That's silly. And I said, okay, yeah, maybe. I don't know. But let me ask you this. Do you think Trump will use the military to enforce immigration deportations? And he said, yes. And I said, will Democrats just let him do it? And he's like, I don't know. I mean, probably not. And I'm like, okay, so either you get Donald Trump using the military to enforce deportations, which you claim is a red line, or Democrats fight back when Trump does it. And then you get a breakdown between the federal government and the states. Hey, look where we are. Donald Trump has called in Marines and National Guard. He's taken the authority of the National Guard away from Gavin Newsom to. To assist and protect federal law enforcement as they enact immigration raids, as everybody thought he would. The question now is, will Democrats let it happen or will they start obstructing? If they begin obstructing, you get into insurrection territory. If Donald Trump invokes the Insurrection act, you are getting into civil strife, escalating into civil war. You will end up with. The issue right now, and we are dangerously close, is that California cheats our elections every year. They cheat Congress. Every year they have extra seats because they allow illegal immigrants to come in. I think we need several other states, red states, to sue to the Supreme Court challenging what California is doing. Because by barring federal Law enforcement, immigration, they are bolstering their representation, which is subverting the will of the other states in the union. If that don't happen and no one takes care of this, and California continues to defy the rules, the rule of law, then what? Then what? We're going to have all. All these Democrat states have already come out and said they will defy Trump.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Tim Pool
You've got what is like 20 some odd. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Libby Emmons
There's a bunch of them Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York. A bunch of them Minnesota.
Tim Pool
All right, let's go. We got Alpha to omega says howdy, people. Tim, Now I wish illegals just stuck with DoorDash instead of politics. Arrest and deport them all. We can no longer care about how Democrats feel. They destroy everything they touch. Ordered doordash today, and we had our staff at the gate check IDs, and the man, in fact, was the name on the account.
Libby Emmons
Oh, how about that?
Tim Pool
Yep.
Phil Labonte
Looking good for him.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yup. I'm done playing these games, these doordash scams. I. I ain't having it if. If doordash is the worst because they don't have a picture of the person coming. And so I'm. We'll probably just start doing Uber eats or something, because that's a big deal. Some stranger pulling up to the property in the security checkpoint. It's like, we don't know who you are and your name doesn't match, and we don't need to look like.
Libby Emmons
Like, why are you even here?
Jim Paff
My wife and I happen to be listening to that last night when you guys were talking about it, and I've done Doordash at our apartment in Pentagon City, and I'm sitting there saying I had not given it consideration. I think it's a valid point. It's really a problem. And. And the Uber thing does work much better. They.
Tim Pool
They do show the face and you can rate them. And then, I mean, it is kind of crazy because people send us food all the time for a variety of reasons. People will be like, hey, look, I make this really great drink, you know, talk about it. Garbage. Yeah, Instantly into the garbage. Anytime food arrives in our mailbox, we just go whoop in the trash.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And it's good because the trash cans next to the mailbox, it's actually really easy to do.
Libby Emmons
Right. It's very convenient.
Tim Pool
So when a stranger shows up because we doordash, and it's like, it says Miguel and you're a blonde woman, you can turn around. We're not eating whatever that food is.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
So we're taking it seriously. Imagine this. Imagine someone goes to a, goes to a, a store and goes to a fast restaurant, grabs food, pulls up, tells our, our team, like, I'm here for doordash, and they just open the door and let them in. So I was like, no, no, no, we're not doing that. Yeah, they got a show id.
Libby Emmons
It makes a lot of sense.
Tim Pool
Yep.
Jim Paff
All right.
Tim Pool
Cat says, I saw a video that connected the Walmart heiress involved in sending the face mask to the riots. Not sure if it's true, but she is connected to an NGO that is funding the rights. So it is. Is that Walton woman who is putting out ads for the no Kings protest.
Libby Emmons
Really?
Tim Pool
Yeah, her name's on it. Is that Chrissy Walton or something?
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I think she did.
Jim Paff
It was a full page New York Times and a couple other papers. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yep, yep.
Jim Paff
I mean, it's trust. Talk about trust. Fund baby approach. I mean, I don't know how much work she actually did in Walmart, but.
Libby Emmons
My gosh, probably not much.
Jim Paff
I mean, it's. The only reason that you do something like that is because you're a bored wealthy person who thinks that you're doing something that is really helping society or something.
Phil Labonte
Look, you're, you're, you're a billionaire, so the left is never going to approve of you ever anyway, so stop trying to appease them.
Tim Pool
Just because I'm free. Says, what do you think Lincoln would have done if a governor said, we are still going to have slaves after the Civil War ended? Trump needs to do that with these sanctuary states. We don't need to think what he, what he would have done. We know what he did. It's called reconstruction. And they sent marshals and they sent troops to these states. And the reason Juneteenth exists as a holiday is because Texas still had people in slavery even after the war was. Was long done, like two years. Also, he arrested a third of the Maryland legislature and suspended habeas corpus from PA to DC and arrested random people for no reason because they were in the way. And Sherman burned down farms, destroyed roads and massacre and well, I'll be live but killed a lot of people. Scorched earth.
Libby Emmons
You know, it's crazy. The Democrats always talk about how they're pro labor, but really they're the ones who are advocating to have the second class of citizens who don't have, who have unregulated jobs, who work under, you know, dangerous conditions, and they are advocating for the perpetuation of the wealthy to have a class of slave labor that works for them in their homes, you know, like unpaid garden, like low paid gardeners, nannies, whatever else it is. Delivery, food, drivers, all of that stuff. These are the kind of jobs that Chuck Schumer wants illegal immigrants to do.
Jim Paff
Perpetrated by white men with hair buns.
Libby Emmons
Well, not just the white men with hair buns, but their wives, you know, with the extra lips.
Jim Paff
All that too.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, with the extra lips.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Well, I mean, I don't know. I got nothing.
Jim Paff
It's white privilege.
Libby Emmons
They have extra. Lots of stuff.
Phil Labonte
I mean, it is white privilege, but it's. You know, when Tim talks about the WOKE as not having an ideology and stuff for the majority of the people that you interact with or that you see interacting on the left where. That you would consider on the left, I think he's probably generally right there. I disagree with them about whether or not there is a fun. A foundational. Foundational ideas when it comes to the way that the WOKE behave. But like, generally, the people you're interacting with, they don't know why they think the things they do. That's why you get billionaires saying things like, oh, I'm gonna help the. The leftists that literally want to kill me.
Tim Pool
This is the proof to them having no real ideology. They might claim sometimes, but I guarantee you, if there were a bunch of leftists saying, eat the rich, and a billionaire showed up and said, I am a Mackenzie Bezos showed up, they'd be like, yay, we love you. Or when BLM says, defund the police. And then what happens when they call the cops that guy in Wisconsin, they went, yay, the cops are arresting our enemies. They don't have any of these ideologies. It's just the exertion of power. And what they're doing is. I call it the. The Niles Crane method. So it was an episode of Frazier where a man sat down in Frazier's seat at the coffee shop they go to, and Frazier was having none of it because he was having a sour day. So when he asked the man to move, the man refused, so he threw him from the seat. Well, that man later sued Frazier and said, you assaulted me. I'm suing you. So Niles, being ever so clever, began to talk smack to this man who then started compl. Like yelling at him and then took his finger and poked his chest, to which Niles went, whoa. And fell backwards and crashed into a table and said, he's assaulted me. Countersuit. Countersuit. And the man Said, I didn't do anything. And they're like, we all saw you touch him. And he said, so he dropped the suit. That's why they claim critical theory, not because they actually believe it, because claiming to be a victim generates sympathy. And they're using that against you. They're using goodwill against you. But the moment they don't need to, they will club you over there with a bike lock.
Libby Emmons
Yes, well, listen.
Phil Labonte
Club you with a bike lock.
Jim Paff
That's right. I say it all the time. 6,000 years of recorded human history proves the radical corruption of mankind. We only ever do good things because we worked hard at being good on some standard. You know, if it's a religious standard, however you approach that morality, you work hard to do well. It doesn't come naturally. So that's why there's no. The. These are expressions of that unrestrained humanity, so to speak, that unrestrained moral sense that has no foundation in anything. And it's chaotic. That's why it's chaotic. That's why it's troubling, problematic in so many ways.
Tim Pool
So, all right, Kane Abel says, so with Saturday and Sunday riding insurrection, does this mean we are in a civil war with the Democrats?
Phil Labonte
Probably not.
Tim Pool
Well, the definition of civil war, typically civil war is defined as when two or more factions fight for control of one country or government. And so there's always going to be an effort to obfuscate the. Your intentions and your actions. The issue we have right now is that California is engaged in a seditious conspiracy as a state. The sanctuary state grants them extra congressional seats. We need to stop it now. If Donald Trump is going to deport illegal immigrants and they block and don't let him. And don't let the will of the people be enacted, then they've escalated to a direct conflict to subvert the power of the federal government.
Libby Emmons
It's not just the will of the people. It's also literally federal law. All the time that Biden and Kamala Harris kept saying, congress needs to act in order to create, you know, immigration policies. Congress didn't need to act. There are federal laws. If you're here illegally, you. You can be deported.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. You know, the whole Congress needs to act was just a line to default. You know, I mean, there's. There are.
Libby Emmons
That was just a line to funnel people in. And you had judge after judge under the Biden administration, as states were suing Biden, saying, you know, you're allowing this flood of people into our state. This is no good. We get to put up a Wall states kept suing Biden, and judges kept saying, no, you don't get to protect your state. You know, I mean, it was absolutely insane. And those are the same judges now who are like, no, bring back the horrible rapists. They belong here.
Tim Pool
Ray Burt G. Stanbert Jr. Says, so I'm in San Diego for work right now, and it's wild to me that a third world city is not that far away and everything seems normal. Reminds me of Tim's stories about Egypt during the revolution. In fact, that's the. The point about what Stelter was saying when he was like, most Angelina's are having a normal life. That's a manipulation tactic meant to trick you into believing false realities about conflict. Every conflict ever. There are cities that are untouched by conflict, and even a couple blocks away from the. From the front line of the conflict, nothing's happening. The story, of course, being referred to here is Tahrir Square, where the revolution took place in Egypt. You walked two blocks away and you're at McDonald's watching, watching soccer. I was literally there. The McDonald's was in front of the Hilton, and there was a guy sitting there, and they had a TV on. He was watching soccer and eating burgers. And then you'd go up. I was on the 26th floor of the Hilton, and there's a revolution taking place. They lie to you because they want you to think what's happening is insignificant.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
They say things like, the Ferguson riots. It was one street. And it's like, yes, it was West Florestan. They burned the whole thing down. They torched dozens of buildings on that one street. That was the riots of Ferguson. This is always how it is.
Jim Paff
But I had a friend message me and. And said, hey, you need to talk about. She's from St. Louis and she's listening to us. You got to talk about that because, yeah, it was outrageous. It was crazy. But, you know, to answer the question about, are we having a civil war? It is sedition. Because their goal is the raw flexing of power and the desire to take down Donald Trump. And it's nothing more than that. That's a seditious.
Tim Pool
So then the only question would be, what they're doing is seditious. First of all, on the ground, people waving foreign flags saying, this is Mexico, not California. That's sedition right there. They're fighting with the feds for this purpose. The politicians defending them is seditious. California, using illegal immigrants, noncitizens to subvert federal power, seditious. The question is, when Trump comes in to shut down the sedition. Do they resist with force? If they do, you get a civil war. If not, we shut it down maybe. But we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show, my friends. So go to rumble.com timcast IRL Sign up for Rumble Premium using promo code TIM10 to get 10 bucks off your yearly membership. You get access to not just Tim Cast IRL uncensored. You get the Green Room show. We have a pre show of us and our guests in the Green Room hanging out Monday through Friday. It's a bonus podcast, another half an hour show and we've got the events coming up. We were talking with Michael Malice. He says, I wanted, I wanted to debate a cop. And so I said let's see if angry cops wants to debate Michael Malice. And so we're going to reach out because I think it'll be hilarious.
Phil Labonte
Richard should definitely do this because Richard.
Tim Pool
And Michael are both incredibly funny people and Richard is a cop. And I said this would be probably one of the funniest debates we do. And they, they probably get along even though they'd argue. So that's we reserve seats for members. We're working on expanding this but we want, you know, you as members at these culture war lives, you come up, you join the debate. It's a lot of fun. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Of course. We'll be at that uncensored show in just a second. Jim, you want to shout anything out?
Jim Paff
Yeah. Jim Path, President of the Conservative caucus. The conservative caucus.org also follow me at Jim Paff on X. I think you'll find some interesting content there. And thanks Michael Malice for the shout out yesterday. And I think I kicked your butt.
Libby Emmons
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Timcast IRL Podcast Summary
Episode Title: LA Riots Go NATIONAL, Spread Across US, Judge DENIES Newsom, Allows National Guard w/ Jim Pfaff
Release Date: June 11, 2025
Host: Tim Lake (Tim Pool)
Guests: Jim Paff, Libby Emmons, Phil Labonte
Duration: Approximately 104 minutes
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The episode begins with host Tim Pool highlighting the rapid spread of riots that originally began in Los Angeles. These disturbances have now permeated several major cities across the United States, including New York, Seattle, Philadelphia, Dallas, and Chicago.
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A significant portion of the discussion centers around Governor Gavin Newsom of California's legal attempt to block President Donald Trump's use of the National Guard to quell the riots. A federal judge has denied Newsom's request, permitting Trump to command and deploy the National Guard.
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The conversation shifts to political figures facing legal challenges related to immigration fraud. Specifically, Minnesota state representative La Monica McIver has been indicted for interfering with immigration officers, highlighting ongoing tensions over immigration policies.
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The hosts critique how mainstream media outlets like CNN and Fox News portray the riots and the politicians involved. They argue that media often downplays the severity of the riots and shifts blame onto political leaders like Trump to manipulate public perception.
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Discussion delves into the severity of the current unrest and the potential for civil conflict if the situation remains unresolved. The hosts emphasize the importance of enforcing existing laws to prevent further escalation.
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Towards the end of the episode, the hosts attempt to play Governor Newsom's address but encounter technical issues, leading to humorous and critical commentary on his inability to communicate effectively during a crisis.
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The episode concludes with the hosts encouraging audience engagement, discussing the importance of community support, and promoting their upcoming uncensored segments on Rumble.
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This episode of Timcast IRL provides a comprehensive analysis of the spreading riots across the United States, legal battles over National Guard deployment, ongoing indictments related to immigration fraud, and critiques of media representation. The hosts maintain a critical stance towards Democratic policies and advocate for strict enforcement of immigration laws. Technical issues during Governor Newsom's address serve to underscore their skepticism of his leadership capabilities.
Listeners are encouraged to engage with the community through social media and upcoming uncensored segments, reinforcing the show's commitment to providing alternative perspectives on current events.
Note: All timestamps correspond to the provided transcript and indicate when notable quotes and discussions occurred during the podcast.