LA Wildfire MOST EXPENSIVE In History, $150B In Damages, ARSONISTS, Looters Arrested w/Jack Posobiec

Summary

Timcast IRL Podcast Summary: LA Wildfires Amidst Political Scandals and Social Commentary

Episode: LA Wildfire MOST EXPENSIVE In History, $150B In Damages, ARSONISTS, Looters Arrested w/Jack Posobiec
Release Date: January 14, 2025
Hosted by: Tim Pool, featuring Jack Posobiec

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1. Overview of the LA Wildfires

The episode opens with Tim Pool detailing the severity of the recent Los Angeles wildfires, projected to be the most costly disaster in U.S. history with estimated damages exceeding $150 billion.

Tim Pool [00:05]: "The LA wildfires are now expected to be the most expensive disaster in US history with over $150 billion in damages estimated."

He highlights the major fires affecting the Hearst, Eaton, and Palisades areas, emphasizing the ongoing threat posed by strong Santa Ana winds.

2. Arson Suspects and Possible Causes

Addressing the origins of the fires, Tim discusses the arrest of two alleged arsonists who were reportedly caught setting fires in the act, suggesting deliberate human interference.

Tim Pool [00:05]: "Police have now allegedly arrested... two of them... caught in the act... it does look like some of these fires were arson."

However, for the most significant fires, the exact causes remain uncertain. The Palisades fire, for instance, is suspected to have been ignited by embers from an unattended New Year's celebration, although this remains unconfirmed.

3. Looting and Security Challenges

The wildfires have also led to increased instances of looting, with some individuals impersonating firefighters to gain access to properties. The use of drones for surveillance and unauthorized entry has further complicated law enforcement efforts.

Tim Pool [00:05]: "There are looters. There are people dressing up like firefighters to go and loot these properties. Flying drones over the properties."

4. Democratic Charity Fundraising Scandal: Act Blue

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the alleged misuse of charitable donations for wildfire relief by Democratic organizations. Tim Pool accuses Democrats of routing donations through Act Blue, a political fundraising platform, thereby deducting a 4% processing fee off the top.

Tim Pool [00:05]: "Talked about this... Democrats are routing charitable donations for wildfire relief through a Democrat pack where they take 4% off the top. Massive, massive scandal."

Jack Posobiec further critiques this practice, stating that donations intended for wildfire relief are instead funneled into politically affiliated entities, undermining the intended charitable impact.

Jack Posobiec [45:11]: "You're putting money in the pocket of a directly politically associated organization, Act Blue... push progressive values."

5. DEI Policies and Fire Department Competence

The podcast delves into how Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies have allegedly compromised the competence of fire departments. Phil Labonte shares a heartbreaking story of Rory Sykes, a former child star with disabilities, who perished in the wildfires due to inadequate assistance from DEI-influenced fire responders.

Phil Labonte [16:25]: "Rory Sykes, who was born blind and had cerebral palsy, died Wednesday in the wildfires after his mother said she was unable to save him from their home."

Tim and Jack argue that DEI policies prioritize diversity over competence, leading to failures in critical emergency responses.

Jack Posobiec [22:50]: "These policies are literally getting people killed."

6. Critique of Nonprofit Organizational Structures

The conversation shifts to the inefficiencies and ethical concerns surrounding nonprofit organizations. Tim Pool criticizes how nonprofits, particularly those affiliated with progressive causes, allocate funds, often directing substantial portions to their own media arms rather than directly supporting the causes they claim to champion.

Tim Pool [50:43]: "Vote Save America... their largest expenditure is their own media company."

Jack Posobiec echoes these sentiments, highlighting how progressive nonprofits often serve as propaganda tools, diverting funds towards sustaining media narratives rather than effecting tangible change.

Jack Posobiec [55:42]: "It's brilliant... the left organizes better than the right."

7. Potential Sale of TikTok to Elon Musk

Tim Pool mentions reports suggesting that TikTok might be sold to Elon Musk, though these reports are later deemed unsubstantiated.

Tim Pool [03:00]: "TikTok might be sold to Elon Musk. I don't know how true that is, but that's what the reporting says."

The discussion acknowledges the broader concerns over TikTok's operations, including censorship and data privacy issues, irrespective of its ownership.

8. Media Manipulation and Nonprofit Funding: Pod Save America Case

A critical analysis is presented on how progressive media entities like Pod Save America manage their nonprofit wings. Tim Pool and Jack Posobiec explore how funds raised by these organizations are primarily channeled into their media operations, effectively serving as self-funded propaganda machines.

Jack Posobiec [50:43]: "Vote Save America... their largest expenditure is their own media company."

Tim Pool emphasizes the strategic advantage this provides to the left in controlling narratives and amplifying their messages.

9. Fact-Checking and Media Bias

The podcast criticizes mainstream media's approach to fact-checking, particularly concerning the LA wildfires. Tim Pool argues that fact-checkers often dismiss unconventional theories without substantial evidence, mirroring how narratives around COVID-19 origins were handled.

Tim Pool [61:48]: "Directed energy weapons did not start the LA wildfires because this guy, Andre Biek... I didn't hear that one specifically."

Jack Posobiec supports this view, suggesting that mainstream media stifles alternative explanations and manipulates information flow.

10. Broader Political and Social Commentary

Throughout the episode, Tim Pool and Jack Posobiec offer extensive commentary on various political and social issues, including:

• Wokeism and Cultural Division: They argue that progressive ideologies foster division and gatekeeping, undermining effective debate and problem-solving.

  Tim Pool [90:37]: "We are going to go to super chats... We got a fun story for you, not so family friendly."

• Evolution vs. Creationism: The hosts engage in a philosophical discussion questioning the definitions of miracles and the implications of evolution tangentially touched upon through network discussions.

• Influence Operations: They express concerns over potential manipulation of social media platforms by foreign entities or even domestic governments to sway public opinion and elections.

11. Conclusion and Call to Action

In closing, Tim Pool urges listeners to support the podcast through memberships, highlighting the importance of independent media in countering mainstream narratives. The episode wraps with light-hearted banter and shout-outs to contributors and listeners.

Tim Pool [94:22]: "Become a [e-mail] to support our work directly. Join the Discord, call into the show."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tim Pool [00:05]: "The LA wildfires are now expected to be the most expensive disaster in US history with over $150 billion in damages estimated."

• Jack Posobiec [22:50]: "These policies are literally getting people killed."

• Phil Labonte [16:25]: "Rory Sykes, who was born blind and had cerebral palsy, died Wednesday in the wildfires after his mother said she was unable to save him from their home."

• Tim Pool [50:43]: "Vote Save America... their largest expenditure is their own media company."

• Jack Posobiec [55:42]: "It's brilliant... the left organizes better than the right."

• Tim Pool [61:48]: "Directed energy weapons did not start the LA wildfires because this guy, Andre Biek... I didn't hear that one specifically."

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Final Thoughts

This episode of Timcast IRL provides a critical lens on the intersection of natural disasters and political maneuvering, particularly spotlighting alleged Democratic misuse of charitable funds, DEI policies’ impact on public safety, and the broader narrative of media manipulation. Through engaging discussions with Jack Posobiec and inputs from co-hosts Shane Cashman and Phil Labonte, the podcast underscores the perceived failings of progressive policies and advocates for greater accountability and transparency in both government and nonprofit sectors.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

The LA wildfires are now expected to be the most expensive disaster in US history with over $150 billion in damages estimated. Police have now allegedly arrested, or I should say they've arrested, alleged arsonists, two of them. However, the news stories say that these guys were caught in the act. So it does look like some of these fires were arson. As for the big ones, we don't know for sure. It is believed that the principal fire, the Palisades fire, may have been embers burning from a New Year's celebration that never got put out, but we don't know for sure. So as of right now, you've got the. I think it's the Hearst, Eaton and Palisades fires. They're still out of control. The Santa Ana winds are picking up. The death toll is, I believe, around 25. And 74 people have been arrested. There are looters. There are people dressing up like firefighters to go and loot these properties. Flying drones over the properties. It's a massively dark day, my friends. And then on top of it all, you got this big scandal. Talked about this at 4pm over on YouTube.com Tim cast the act Blue scandal where Democrats are routing charitable donations for wildfire relief through a Democrat pack where they take 4% off the top. Massive, massive scandal. I mean, this is just awful stuff. So we'll talk about that. And there's some other news. TikTok might be sold to Elon Musk. I don't know how true that is, but that's what the reporting says. Maybe Elon buys TikTok and saves the platform. Before we get started, my friends, head over to cast brew.com and buy cast Brew Coffee if you look for it. We don't have it featured on the front page just yet, but I actually didn't know. Focus with Mr. Bocus espresso roast is now available. And look how beautiful that bag is for Mr. Bocus. We. We retired the Mr. Bocus pumpkin spice experience. Experience. It's still available if you're in the Casper Coffee Club. But focus, focus with Mr. Bocus dark roast Espresso. It's available. And let's do this. We talked about Ian's graphene dream the other day. How much has he sold? Holy crap. In a week and a half, ian has sold 2,001. I'm sorry, 1,100 bags of his graphene dream. I don't know why you guys love that Ian coffee so much, but you're buying it like crazy, so I'll take it. But don't Forget to also go to boonieshq.com and pick up your 28th amendment skateboard. Look at that doodle of the chicken. Tell me that is not the greatest chicken doodle ever made. It's beautiful. And the 20th Amendment is that chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep, bear and breed chickens shall not be infringed. And that's over at Boonies HQ. But of course become a member by going to timcast.com and clicking join us. Because as a member you make all this possible. If you like the work we do. If you think this show is good and you want to make sure this show continues to exist, then become a member by going to timcast.com and you can get access to our Discord server where you can hang out with like minded individuals and and you can watch the members only uncensored show that is coming up tonight at 10pm you don't want to miss it. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Jack Posobic.

[Jack Posobiec]

What's going on, Tim? Do you realize that in just one week's time you'll be sitting here behind the microphone. Tim cast IRL and Donald J. Trump will be the President of, of the United States. You hear that Libs? You have less than seven days left.

[Tim Pool]

We'll be in D.C. actually, what's still.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Tim cast IRL, Microsoft, wherever Tim is. Because Tim is Tim. By the way, we're going to be there. Here's something I had to think about that I when you were mentioning, you were mentioning the 28th amendment, right? So are you familiar with. And it's the right, the right to bear and breed chickens. Right. Are you familiar with the Schecter Poultry case? Oh, so FDR's. It's just so funny that this came up that FDR's entire national recovery act and the National Recovery Agency, the original nra, this was like the biggest, most expansive form of government. It was basically this agency he put together during the New Deal to like take over every single business in the country.

[Tim Pool]

And they chickens.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well they were basically, they had put these regulations in that basically said that for anyone who wanted to slaughter chickens, I mean it had to be like this way and done in this form and done in this format and all this other nonsense. And it was, believe it or not, it was Schecter Poultry Corp. Out of New York that came up and challenged this thing and got it completely overturned. So basically What I'm saying is there is. There is legitimate Supreme Court jurisprudence that already sets a precedent for the 28th amendment.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go. All right, Jack. Well, thanks for hanging out. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

[Jack Posobiec]

Gonna be great to have you.

[Tim Pool]

Shane's hanging out.

[Shane Cashman]

Jack told me that the second Trump is inaugurated, there's going to be a Pizza Hut renaissance. And I'm really excited.

[Jack Posobiec]

Did you see there was this. There. One of these, one of these, one of these, like, you know, kind of these, like these, like Twitter accounts, these X accounts that they post stuff or like retweets now, you know, because it's all monetized. And it was talking about nostalgia and it said. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Did you. Did you see that this old Pizza Hut is getting turned into a new Pizza Hut. 2025 has begun. You see, they bought it, Tim. They thought that we said Project 2025 wasn't happening. Oh, no. They didn't realize that the real project 2025 was actually underneath that original report. That was all just silly stuff. It's really about taking all the old Pizza Huts that were abandoned and turning them into Pizza Huts or perhaps, perhaps a similar. Similar named organization. Thus 4.

[Tim Pool]

You know, what's, what's that? What's that city in PA where they got one? I think it's. It's. Let me.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ohio has a ton of them.

[Tim Pool]

Is it Breezewood?

[Jack Posobiec]

There's a ton of them in Ohio. The classic Pizza Huts, Breezewood.

[Tim Pool]

There's a. There's a classic Pizza Hut there. And Alison and I were driving through it and we were stopping for gas and then we saw it and we are like, we have to go inside. And it was, it was.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is that when you went up for Brutler?

[Tim Pool]

I think so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. When we did. When we did the. The War Room with the cybertruck.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. That was amazing. All right. Anyway, Phil's hanging out too.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Monte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. You know, Jack, you mentioned the Pizza Huts and I. Not that I have any problem with Taco Bell's, but I do miss the days when you go to a Pizza Hut and sit down that wasn't also a Taco Bell and a Kentucky Fried Chicken all mixed into one.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, young brands, own them all. Was like, oh, we're going to put them all together. This idea of optimization. And it was the Corporatization and conglomerate of America that it did start in the 90s. We have to be. We have to be fair about this. It started in the 90s and it continued on forward. There's that line in, in Austin Powers. Remember when. When Dr. Evil comes back and number two is like, don't you understand, Dr. Evil? There is no world anymore. It's all corporations now. And he's like, what?

[Shane Cashman]

We want our fast food.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's kind of true.

[Shane Cashman]

Segregated.

[Phil Labonte]

Bring back the Pizza Buffet.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes, the.

[Phil Labonte]

Bring back the Pizza Buffet down in Florida.

[Tim Pool]

But is it crazy that Pizza Hut gave up the Pizza Buffet and then other companies started Pizza Buffet and succeeded at it? Like, why did they give that up?

[Jack Posobiec]

Cr. I mean, a lot of this stuff comes down to just corporate culture. It. And again, like, it. Pizza Hut was bought out by Yum Brands. And then Yum Brands was bought again and again and resold and resold. And so they just kind of got away from the idea of anyone who actually understood how the underlying business functioned. And so what made Pizza Hut great? And. And this is what something that. And by the way, you know, shout out to the late, great Lou Dobbs because he used to always talk about Pizza Hut nationalism. He said he would be like, jack, that's one of the greatest things I've ever heard. This is perfect because it's not about Pizza Hut, okay? That's what everybody gets wrong. It's about the feeling of community that you could have when you're at Pizza Hut.

[Phil Labonte]

Those.

[Tim Pool]

And I do want to make sure we talk about news. But I'm going to say one more thing. That video Sam Hyde put out about the unquantifiable. How you can't import immigrants to bringing that back. Yeah, he's talking about Pizza Hut.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He's talking about going there and getting your personal pan pizza because you read a book. And the corporation had partnered with schools to get kids to read books. And then you get a little pizza and then. But then the parents end up buying more pizza. So it worked out for everybody. Let's go to the news. Ladies and gentlemen, we got a couple stories for you. We'll start off here from Fox News, Louisiana. Wildfires, California firebug arrest caught on video as police. Police warn of arsonists. Take a look at this. For those that are watching, here's a guy being arrested on video. They say he started a fire. Then we have this from the Daily Mail. Firefighters catch second arsonist in the act of starting new blazes in LA days after cops arrest illegal immigrant With a blowtorch. So not only do we have two suspected arsonists arrested, but a guy on camera wasn't arrested for arson with a blowtorch and locals trying to stop this guy. So if we jump over to the air now.gov website, we can see you've got the Eaton, Hearst and Palisades. Now the Eaton fire in Altadena and Palisades are the biggest and they've got no control over this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, was the. I have to say it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But the blowtorch guy going to say it was self defense? I was going to fight fire with fire.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know what he was doing.

[Jack Posobiec]

But I mean, I'll see myself out.

[Tim Pool]

So here's the, here's the crazy thing. They don't arrest this guy for arson. And so it's not. But come on, the challenging thing is for these, these big fires, dude, if some guy wanted to start a fire and flicked a cigarette into brush, how do you. How do you prove that it was arson? How do you track that guy down?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, of course that guy wanted to start a fire. How many. I would imagine that there's multiple of these fires that have been started by people that are just like, man, I could probably get away with it. What. What's it like? You know, just crazy weird.

[Jack Posobiec]

You saw, you saw the Bill mulligan report, right? Where out of fo news where he said that they. That he's his source. And Bill, Bill's been great on this stuff that he was saying that it was in fact an illegal alien that they believe started the, the Kenneth fire.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I didn't hear that one specifically. I heard that. I didn't hear the Malligan report, but I heard. I also heard that sunset was an illegal immigrant.

[Phil Labonte]

Was he meant. Were they mentally ill? I know.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, if you're. If you're gonna commit arson, you're mentally ill.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

Fair enough.

[Jack Posobiec]

But what.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not to disparage the mentally ill like that action requires you to be disturbed.

[Shane Cashman]

I had Jeremy Ryan slate world last night. He's in L. A right now. He's seeing all these fires and he's saying that there's gangs starting fires outside of houses to get people to evacuate to that and loot the house.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

They're saying cartel gangs are intentionally exacerbating the problems. Of course.

[Jack Posobiec]

Why wouldn't you?

[Tim Pool]

And you can move in.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, it's crazy. Malibu. Malibu is Burning?

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

It's spreading and they can't stop it. This is not even. What is it, like, 10% contained or.

[Shane Cashman]

Something last night, but not enough.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, not enough.

[Phil Labonte]

I heard it was somewhere around 10%.

[Jack Posobiec]

What's crazy about this whole thing, and. And, you know, and I am going to make it political, is like, the wildfires in this area are not new. This has been going on since the area has existed when the Spanish came there 500 years ago. Right. They would see that there's. There's just these. There's these very unique physical characteristics to the land, to the wind, to the vegetation that's there that produces this pretty much once a year, pretty much regularly. And the natives, by the way, would say, no, no, you can't just leave the forest. You know, you've got to. You got to maintain it. You've got to chop some of this stuff down. You've got to clear away this old brush. And I remember when Trump went out there in 2018, he said, you got to rake the forest, you know, because it's Trump. And, you know, he always says things in the Trump way, but that is what he's talking about. He's talking about cleaning it up, he's talking about managing your forest. And this is something that was known for hundreds of years. Mocked him for that yet. And they mocked him, they ridiculed him, they attacked him. And they're like, oh, Newsom, Newsom's got to take care of it. Newsom's going to be great. And here we are again.

[Phil Labonte]

That's been the situation, though, for, you know, literally since 2017, when he took office, 16 when he's. When he was running. Right. Like, the left just says, whatever Trump says, say the opposite and it'll be fine. That's why Biden passed all those executive orders to undo all the things like remain in Mexico and all the things related to the border. And that's literally why we had that massive surge. Joe Biden specifically said, I want to see people surge the border. Which blows my mind. If you go back and look at the. The debates, he literally said, I want to see people surge the border. Like, welcoming people in, and then. And then set in, you know, undid policies that would have prevented them. And now we've got an absolute mess with illegal immigration that Donald Trump has back now to clean up.

[Shane Cashman]

It's controlled collapse.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's a collapse of complex systems. It's. And by the way, these are in, by and large, right? California, one of the. One of the biggest Covid States, right? So one of the biggest Covid areas. So just think about this, right? These are the people who said, just trust the experts. Just listen to the government. Just follow. Follow the guidance, follow dc Follow all. This is. This is the way you do things. This is the way you get it, right? And now suddenly all those people are sitting there in their teeth. And it's horrible, by the way. It's absolutely horrible. This is something that I think a lot of. A lot of people get wrong about conservatives is like, no, we want to help. But the problem is is that your ideas about how to fix the situation are so stupid that it's like you've got to just remove that person. Like, okay, that's nice. You sit over here and we'll explain to you how to make the fire go away. Because here's the problem, right? So with like something like these intangible, systemic racism, you know, wokeism, critical race through all these different things, you know, the f. Phantom misogyny that exists. These are all intangibles, right? These are things that exist. Maybe in your head you can't see them. But they're all theoretical in a sense. They're academic. But when a fire is coming, they're also unfalsifiable. Yeah, they're unfalsifiable. But when a fire is coming to burn down your house, guess what, like, that is.

[Shane Cashman]

But don't, you know, you know, don't you think it was worth it to save the smelt fish?

[Jack Posobiec]

See, see, that's where I get into. All right, we did this, and it went kind of viral on human events daily. Where have you guys ever seen that movie Chinatown? The old Jack Nicholson movie?

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, with.

[Jack Posobiec]

With John. John Houston, you know, Plays. Plays. No cry. Have you seen it, Tim?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, dude.

[Shane Cashman]

Classic dude.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because it. The whole movie's about the California water wars and which. Which are a real thing that happened in the 20s where basically it came down to who controlled the water in California, Basically controlled the land. And what they were doing is they were denying land to specific areas so they could devalue it so this developer could come in, buy up all the land at an incredibly low value and incorporate again. This is a Jack Nicholson movie from the 1970s. Then incorporate the valley with the city, then bring the water in. This is, by the way, William. Was it William Mulholland or John Mulholland? William Mulholland was in. In real life. This is Mulholland Drive. That's where the name comes from. He was the water director of California. And you know this. He was like this totally corrupt guy that. That would. Participated in all this, in the building of the LA aqueduct. And the farmers were, like, bombing it and trying to stop it because it was going to ruin all their farms. And the movie is about all of this. And, you know, he's. He's just this evil developer who knows that people are going to die, but he doesn't care. And there's this great scene where he's like, well, you see. You see, Jake, you can. Oh, no, you see Mr. Gitz. You see, Mr. Gitz, you can bring the water to LA, or you can bring LA to the water. He's like, you're. You're so rich, Mr. You're so rich. What could you possibly want that you can't already buy?

[Tim Pool]

The future, Mr. Getz. The future.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so that. That character of Noah Cross is the one that Daniel Plainview is kind of based on, and There Will Be Blood because it's a very similar type of character. So I just keep watching all this news and I'm like, this is the plot of Chinatown just over and over and over again.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that's mismanagement for you. And these people are going to keep voting for it because nothing's going to change their mind. Newsom's already going on podcasts and saying Trump's lying about everything. Don't blame me. When he was asked about why the reservoir was drained, he goes, that's a local reservoir, not a state reservoir. Like, he has no responsibility for anything. Gone are the days where, even if it wasn't the fault of the guy in charge, like, this is what I was saying earlier this morning. A house would burn down and the fire chief would say, we let you down on this day.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And rest assured, we will do better next time. Now it's, hey, we didn't start the fire. That guy who was in there, he got himself in the wrong place by being in that burning building.

[Jack Posobiec]

Did you see the clip of. I don't think it was that one, but it was one of these other LA fire chiefs. And I'm gonna be very euphemistic about that, where she said that she wasn't actually sure how the water got into the fire hydrants.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, she was like. She's like, it's our firefighter's expectation that water is going to be there when we get there. And, you know, I don't know how that water gets into those. Those. Those hydrants. And you're like, oh, they also have. That's that. Like, that's not my job. Like, well, you know, maybe. I don't know, maybe, like, have. Is this one of those things where they say, like, like, women can't understand generalized knowledge because it's like, no, we understand that it's not your specific job to put the water in there, but you might want to, I don't know, have a basic understanding of how that works. I want to, like, I don't know, a reservoir.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna pull up this story. Let me see if I can find a water tower.

[Shane Cashman]

Okay. It's also crazy that this lady's name has the word arson in it.

[Tim Pool]

I want to, I'm gonna. Okay, guys, I want you to make clips of this. I think this will help you out. Many people. Wow. Let me, let me pause. A few years ago, it was, it was maybe like six, seven years ago. I had a bunch of videos on YouTube.com timcast go subscribe. We do a show every, every day. 4pm we just launched them back up. My mom said, tim, why don't you talk about Republicans? I said, okay, what do you want me to say about Republicans? She's like, well, they do bad things. And I said, oh, okay. Like, what do you think they're doing that's bad? She's like, well, I don't know, but all you talk about is Democrats. And I said, maybe it's because the Republicans are like a lukewarm nothing party and the Democrats are evil. And she argued with me, and I was like, you send me anything you see any day about Republicans doing something, and if I agree, I will absolutely criticize the Republicans. I'm not a fan of the Republican Party, and I'm reminded of this story. It reminds me of that moment. So, so for the, for those of you out there that are watching this and who have family and friends who are like, tim's biased, I'm going to explain to you very simply the core of what makes me despise the Democratic Party. Progressives, wokeness, et cetera, to story here from NBC News. Take a look. Former child star Rory Sykes dies in California wildfires as mom tried to save him. I, I. This is a hard story to read. Former child star Rory Sykes, who was born blind and had cerebral palsy, died Wednesday in the wildfires after his mother said she was unable to save him from their home. See, the story is her arm was broken and she couldn't get the cinders off the building. She could not carry him out of the building. And he was having trouble walking. He didn't want to leave. He Couldn't. He was struggling. So she went to the fire department, asked them for help. He said, mom, leave me. No mom could leave their kid. Shelly Sykes told Australian outlet ten News she has a broken arm and could not lift or move her son. Shelly Sykes said she drove to the local fire department for help, but they told her they did not have any water. She said when the fire department brought her back, Rory's cottage was burnt to the ground. You understand the implications about what happened to Rory? He was trapped. The mother couldn't lift him, and he died in that fire. And now I want you to watch this video from Larson. She's the, I believe, the head of diversity for the LA Fire Department. I'm sorry, let me get the audio. Responds to your house.

[Shane Cashman]

Your. You want to see somebody that responds to your house, your emergency, whether it's.

[Tim Pool]

A medical call or a fire call that looks like you, it gives that.

[Shane Cashman]

Person a little bit more ease knowing.

[Tim Pool]

That somebody might understand their situation better. Is she strong enough to do this or. You couldn't carry my husband out of a fire. Which. My response is he got himself in the wrong place. If I have to carry him out of a fire. Rory Sykes did not get himself in the wrong place. He released that Rory. Rory Sykes did not put himself in the wrong place. You psychopathic monster. The requirement for the fire department is to be able to lift those who cannot lift themselves to save them from burning buildings. It's no one's fault. I don't care if you dropped a cigarette and your house started on fire. I don't care if you put a teddy bear next to a bunch of candles and your house set on fire. We will save you. And in this instance, a man with cerebral palsy who was blind and whose mother desperately tried to carry him out of a building she was terrified would burn down, was unable to do so. But he got himself in the wrong place. These are the people they hire. They're disgusting monsters that would leave you to burn to death so long as they get a salary to push their crackpot religion. That's why I despise these people. I hope that's clear. That man has died because they are so insistent on hiring a DEI fire diversity officer who has the nerve to say, if you are stuck in a fire, you got yourself in the wrong place. Tell that to the disabled man with cerebral palsy. It's his fault. That's what they said. Screw these people, dude.

[Jack Posobiec]

Miranda Devine had some. And it's not directly related to this, but it's Related to dei. She had this huge piece last year about the FBI and kind of similar situation. We're talking about, you know, people who are supposed to be first responders, that type of thing. And she had these whistleblowers coming through an FBI recruitment and who were, who were actual recruiters and trainers in Quantico. And they were talking about how the D in the DEI policies that if somebody was considered a DEI candidate, they weren't allowed to fail them even if they didn't pass the physical test, even if, and again, this is FBI, but you could see these policies everywhere. That's what we're talking about. And so if you couldn't pass the physical test, even if you were 50 pounds overweight, even if you were illiterate and couldn't like write a basic report, even if you couldn't pass the obviously intellectual investigative tests, you were all pushed forward. And they would try to fail people and they would come back and say, oh no, this person. You know, you can't fail someone to this gender because we need to meet this quota or you can't fail someone to the sexual orientation or you can't fail them because it's a minority and it's a female. So, you know, and it was hall headquarters and it was all Chris Wray and was pushing this down and this, this crap, it's, it's literally getting people killed. This is the culmination, burned alive, the.

[Shane Cashman]

Culmination of the pandemic of incompetence. Because it's the DEI stuff, it's the empty reservoirs. It's all these bad policies coming to a head and killing people.

[Phil Labonte]

Whether it was, I don't know if it was last year or the year before. Well, I don't know if it was 2024-2023, but there were a lot of people that were talking about the idea of a crisis of competence was coming. There was, there was talk about a lot of, a lot of talk about air airplanes. Like there was airports that were near misses and, and they were talking about these things. This is going to lead to some kind of accident.

[Jack Posobiec]

The train crash.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there's a crisis of competence company. This is the manifestation of crisis of competence. This is what happens when you have people in positions that they don't deserve to be in. And when I say deserve, I don't mean deserve as in have the, the right colored skin or whatever. I mean they are, they don't have the qualifications and they put a person in to fill a slot believing that everybody is the same people Are not all the same. Different people have different skills and different abilities, and those skills and abilities matter in the real world. We live in the real world. These people don't believe that there is a real world. They believe that they can speak.

[Shane Cashman]

They're trying to rewrite the real, real world.

[Phil Labonte]

They believe they can speak reality into existence and also not.

[Jack Posobiec]

You also get an idea of. It's like atheists trying to create heaven here in utopia here on earth.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they're doing the opposite of that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Indeed.

[Tim Pool]

When. When you said the crisis of competency was coming, you are correct. I remember with the, with the, the airplane. Airplanes. Charlie Kirk was smeared as a racist for saying he was concerned about DEI hiring.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was on that show with him.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely stupid. His point was not about the race of the individual, about the hiring practices of liberals. Yes, obviously at the time when people were saying diversity hiring is going to cause a plane to fall out of the sky, how could anyone have predicted that diversity measures would burn down Los Angeles? Yet here we are, Yahoo News picking up from Salon. Quote, DEI is deadly. Fox News spin on California wildfires exposes MAGA's total incoherence. Because we are criticizing the fact.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it's Jesse Waters fault.

[Tim Pool]

It is. So we criticize the fact that these people are incapable of doing their jobs to the point where L. A has got a fire chief saying your husband got himself in the wrong place. If I have to carry him out of a fire. Yeah. Okay. This is a problem of culture and it's a problem of hiring people who are bad at their jobs or unwilling to do them for the sake of hiring a person who is a certain race or sexual orientation. It's also getting. Or sexual fetish now, which is a really weird thing by the way, happening.

[Jack Posobiec]

What it comes down to as well is in terms of the predictive groups or the protected groups and the classes. It's, it's not even all that different from what you saw in the Soviet Union because it's all predicated on this idea that everyone can be equal. Equal.

[Phil Labonte]

Stalin had a DEI program. Yeah, they had, they had programs that were, that were intended to put people into positions not based on skill, but based on having the right.

[Shane Cashman]

That workout.

[Jack Posobiec]

So did Chairman Mount.

[Phil Labonte]

Clearly not.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, the same thing. And if you were, if you were a serf, if you were a petty landowner, you were with your petty landowner, you were, you were killed or struggle sessioned away. If you were a serf, if you were a peasant, you would be like put in charge of a factory. And, and it all ground into the dirt. And so, of course, the real question, though, is. The real question, though is, is it just incompetence at the base level or is it, as I would argue in this clip right here, and I wrote a whole book about this and got smeared and attacked and everything. Is it on some level they view you as the problem if you are the right target group? If you. Yes, like this is the Luigi Maggione situation, where, no, this guy is an affluent white male and therefore he needs to go down because Luigi Maggione had picked a different target, had picked someone who was potentially in one of these protected classes. Guess what? There'd be no fandom.

[Tim Pool]

That'd be really weird. Right?

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Like the health care co was some black dude.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah. See what I'm saying? All of a sudden, it all falls apart. Then nobody.

[Tim Pool]

They call him a white supremacist.

[Jack Posobiec]

White supremacist. They'd say he's lynching successful minority. It would be totally flipped and they'd be all against him. Meanwhile, because he picked a white straight male, then suddenly he goes after this, which, you know, she. You know, she kind of talks about that. You couldn't carry my husband. It's a guy. You notice that? Of course he picks a guy. You couldn't carry my husband. What? Because. What? Because the guy had smoke inhalation?

[Phil Labonte]

Your husband did this? Well, he's just a dumb guy and he deserves it. He deserves to suffer and die.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

Don't expect me to be able to carry him. He'd made dumb decisions. He got himself into a bad position, and so now he deserves to suffer.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right? So you. So this is. This is what we got at in the book on humans where we said it is not based on that, on equality. It is not based on social justice. That is all window dressing. That is all. Just what they say. It's about resentment. It's about hatred. It's about wanting. By the way, the greenies are sitting there looking at this and say, yes, we want these human structures to burn. We want humanity to burn. We want society to fall. All these rich 1 percenters, let them burn for what they've done to Mother Earth, for what they've done to Mother Gaia. We want them to suffer. They look at this and they cheer it. They want more of it. You and you watch. By the way, I'm not saying that this was done, but there have been time and time again where the f. Even the FBI has put out reports saying that eco terrorists are one of the number one Causes of forest fires. I'm not saying these, these ones specifically were YouTube censors or whatever, but it's, it's, it has been reported many, many, many times. And it's because they take on which, funny enough, we were even before the fire started. I, I was, I've been giving my kids the, the Batman marathon. I was showing them the old Batman movies like the Tim Burton, the Joel Schumacher movies, and Mask of the Phantasm, of course, the best one. And Poison Ivy's character in, in Batman and Robin, which we all kind of like laugh at that movie, her character, it wants to kill all of humanity so that plants can take back the world.

[Shane Cashman]

And it's like Thanos.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it's like, okay, so he wants.

[Shane Cashman]

To kill people to save.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he wanted people to say he wanted to, he wanted to call half the population so the other half would be.

[Phil Labonte]

It's that same motivation. It's the same.

[Tim Pool]

Poison Ivy wants all animals dead because plants are better.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right. And so in the 90s, that was considered like a hilarious character that we could all laugh at and make fun of and like obviously evil. Right. Whereas now it's like that position is platformed. There's money that's put behind it. George Soros and Klaus Schwab and Greta Thunberg have like massive conferences all about this. And we're treated, we're talked to as if they're like, this is important and we want something like this where it's clearly anti human. So don't tell me for a second that there aren't people cheering this on, because there are.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh yeah, clearly there's absolutely people. I mean there's, there are people that think that there are too many human beings on Earth, which.

[Jack Posobiec]

The actual problem, talking about the actual.

[Phil Labonte]

Problem that we're going to be facing is the fact that there's population collapse. There aren't enough people to replace the people that, that exist now.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, that goes country by country because you look like Africa's having a parabolic population explosion right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure, in Western countries.

[Tim Pool]

Take a look at this story. This is actually from last week, but still interesting. LAPD hasn't linked LA fires to maga. Cause of blaze unknown. I kid you not. Updated, Updated today.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, what?

[Tim Pool]

That's right. That's right. The story was just updated.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, how is it maga's fault?

[Tim Pool]

So check it out.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm interested in that.

[Tim Pool]

They say several posts claim the L A authorities linked the wildfires to three Trump supporters. Quote, apparently LAPD are looking for three persons of Interest all tied to a MAGA website who are spotted at the source of all three major fires. This might have been the opening salvo in Trump's war against any state he considers an enemy within. The post was shared. Shared more than 200 times in four days. False. They say there is no claim that MAGA started these fires.

[Shane Cashman]

They were saying this is MAGA country.

[Jack Posobiec]

This. I got to say something. This may be the first time that I've seen like the left getting fact checked on something this big. And by the way, Tim, scroll down a little bit again because don't bury the lead there that says threads post. So they're actually fact checking stuff, which I didn't even know there were 200 people still on threads. Apparently all 200 people on threads.

[Tim Pool]

Every single one of us.

[Jack Posobiec]

100 of the use.

[Tim Pool]

Let me, let me just tell you guys how dangerous. Threads. Threads is a dangerous source of misinformation.

[Shane Cashman]

Radicalization.

[Jack Posobiec]

Mark Zuckerberg, just like how parlor apparently created January 6th.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's thread still allowed on the App Store.

[Tim Pool]

I think threads should be banned and arrested.

[Jack Posobiec]

Clearly, Mark Zuckerberg says that he's against, you know, he's against misinformation now and says that he's going to be turning over a new leaf. You know, Zuck, I totally. What if, what if since he came, absolutely believable.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, wait, like, this is a good point. Like, Mark, Mark Zuckerberg says they're going to get rid of misinformation. I think everybody should just flood threads with based memes and be like, can't do anything about it now.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I, I still. That being said though, it's like. So let me get this straight. He donates like half a billion dollars to Joe Biden's reelect in 2020 through his, you know, through Zuckerbucks and this whole system that eventually sees ccl which helps Biden get reelected and then so he dresses like a Philly boy and like, lets his fro grow out and.

[Shane Cashman]

Puts a chain on little dicky impersonator.

[Jack Posobiec]

And now. And now it's. Now it's all cool. Like, now it's all just cool. Nah, man, I don't buy it for a second. I'm sorry, Zuck. Like, you actually have to do something. You have to do something to show us that you've turned over a new leaf. And so like, what on the board is, is like, okay, I mean, that's something. But again, that's still like, it's like a potential. It's a potentiality I want to see that something on Instagram or Facebook or Threads has actually changed.

[Tim Pool]

If this was actually a pendulum swing for Zuckerberg, because boards don't run organizations, Zuckerberg would have come out and said, to improve the System, we're adding 10 conservative fact checkers to the website, giving them the ability to downrank news that they find to be incorrect. That would be the pendulum swing, right? Zuckerberg coming out and saying, we're taking away the left's ability to suppress the right, and now everyone's on a neutral playing field. Is him saying, we're not giving you anything at all, we're just going back to zero.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which, by the way, I'm going to say something like putting someone on the board, like, that's like DEI for maga. Just because it's Dana White, right, it doesn't mean he's actually in charge of anything. He's on the board. Right. Is he. Is anyone listening to him or is anyone taking direction from him? Is he. Does he have higher fire ability? Does he have any actual control? And that's nothing against him, by the way. And if, you know, if he does, then great. You know, if he does have this ability, that's great. But otherwise, it looks like virtue signaling to me with you, without any actual action, with teeth behind it. We believe in action around here. Action gets results. And I know we're going to see what 100 executive orders from President Trump next week. These I want, by the way, I want him to. This is what I want him to do. I want him in the middle of his speech. So he's going to get up there, he's going to go on the dais, he's going to the balcony speaking. What I want him to do is just turn around and instead of addressing the people in the crowd, start addressing all of the politicians in the balcony that's right behind him. And then have Stephen Miller just walk up with his stack of 100 executive orders and he just, he just reads the title off and Trump just signs it signed, signed, signed, signed. And then, oh, by the way, we're going to be deploying the U.S. army from Fort Travis directly to the fire. The fires in the Palisades or wherever they're still Brentwood or wherever they're still going. And we're going to have them put them out immediately. Just do it. So doing stuff immediately.

[Tim Pool]

Adrian Curry just says, I was re monetized on Facebook today. Congratulations.

[Jack Posobiec]

Okay. You know, you know, it's like, it's like a trickle. It's like, oh, a trickle. Oh, a thimble of your gratitude from the great Zuck. From the great Zuckerberg. The why is it. You know, the why is it great? Oh, thank you, Lord Zuck. Thank you so much. Wow. It's incredible. No, I mean, like, we all know people that have been banned, demonetized, and censored on Facebook to the point where it's kind of a joke. Like people don't even really go there that much.

[Tim Pool]

I long said Facebook is one of the worst for censorship because like YouTube was, was decent. Like nobody was good. Like, well, like X and Rumble are good. Right? But YouTube was decently bad, but nowhere near the worst. TikTok is the worst.

[Jack Posobiec]

100.

[Tim Pool]

The worst. Absolutely. We got, we got banned on TikTok for having guests, not for breaking rules. That's not our understanding. So it's like if we, I think we had Myron Gaines on and said nothing that broke the rules and they, they, they, they banned us and like, account gone. And we're like, okay, yeah, Facebook was massively censorious on a wide range of political issues. So we'd literally be like, this video talks about gender issues. We'll get banned. YouTube, we talked about all of it. The worst case scenario for the most part was we get demonetized. Don't get me wrong, Facebook, I mean, YouTube still censored, you know, Covid and medical stuff, but Facebook was really bad. Let's see if Facebook improves. However, I guess the problem is Zuckerberg destroyed the platform. It's useless now. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's useful for boomers. And I mean that with no disrespect. Like boomers use it, but because of what they did in censoring everything, Gen Z and younger people went other places, right?

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, I never, I never go there. I have no desire to go back either.

[Jack Posobiec]

I have friends like my Tanya will. Like my wife will. She'll go on there because. But she's also curated it in such a way where she really can only see what her friends are sharing. So it, she, she uses it for like friends and family and that's it.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's not something where she's like trying to guys build a following or something, which I kind of wish I could have that right.

[Tim Pool]

You know, we made $310 on Facebook in the past month.

[Phil Labonte]

Congratulations.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. I got the biggest podcast in the world.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now you don't have to sell the show.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

He was Even folks, I. You don't realize this. Tim's been, you know, as I drove up here, he was sitting out out front with like a little. A little tin can. He's like, please, please donate to Tim.

[Phil Labonte]

Cass on the weekends.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's the only way. We're going to lose everything.

[Tim Pool]

I was holding a. A sign saying, become a member at Timcast.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're going to lose everything.

[Phil Labonte]

Weekends we all have cow looking at him.

[Jack Posobiec]

Kind of funny.

[Phil Labonte]

The lemonade stand. We all have to sit.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Phil's number one in sales, though. I don't know how he does it. How do you do that?

[Jack Posobiec]

What are you putting in that lemonade, Phil?

[Phil Labonte]

Caffeine.

[Jack Posobiec]

To talk about that or something else that starts with a C. But yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I, I do think it's funny that on threads they're pushing like, has the left. They. They've done this, right? They make fake up fake stories and then spread them around.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. It's called cnn. It's called Russiagate. It's called.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I mean. Like, it's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's long been called the CIA, the FBI, you know. You know, like, there's the whole thing.

[Tim Pool]

About, like, these posts came from CIA guys who don't work in the government anymore because Trump got elected. They quit. Oh, right now they're on threads posting it and maga.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're like, the greatest threat is white supremacy, which is.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

So by the way, that, that, that would have been their, like, FBI report that would come. That was going to come out, by the way. I was joking. I was saying that, you know, for Cash Patel when he gets nominated, or Pete Hegseth, who, by God, should pass his confirmation hearing tomorrow. Let's give it up for Pete Hegseth and screw the Wall Street Journal for coming after him at the 11th hour like they are right now. Screw those guys. Pete Hegseth is the man that the American people want. He's the man veterans want. And I don't play my veteran card very much, but I will play it for Pete Hegset.

[Tim Pool]

I have a correction. We actually made $1,740 on Facebook last month. Well, now we're talking. That's right. That's enough.

[Jack Posobiec]

To Phil, you don't have to sell the cocaine lemonade this week.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, I. I love what I do, though.

[Jack Posobiec]

Feels like I drank it all.

[Phil Labonte]

I love what I do.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, keep selling it to this guy named. Named Hunter B. He's coming up for 11 Bill's lemonade for something.

[Phil Labonte]

He comes up from D.C. you know.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, but. But it, it's, it's. It what, what they should do. What they should do for the government, right, to have this. Set this up. So people are saying that, okay, the first thing you have to do is make them actually show up for their jobs again.

[Tim Pool]

Okay?

[Jack Posobiec]

So that's big, right? Obviously we want that. So no more none of the teleworking. You've got to actually show up for your jobs. That'll get like 30% right there. And then if you want to get rid of like, the next 70% of federal workers, maybe, maybe there's like a slim majority. They'll stick around. They'll hold on by the, by the skin of their teeth, force them to say the Pledge of Allegiance every single morning in person, in their offices. And like, in, like in a group setting.

[Shane Cashman]

They live stream that, too.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, yeah, we should all see it. Oh, yeah, we should all. We should all have to see it so we can check to make sure that everyone's there, and if so, someone's not there. Time cards, baby. Time cards.

[Shane Cashman]

Let's go in there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Let's go.

[Phil Labonte]

I strongly believe that everyone or that they should do all they can to move all of the agencies out of.

[Tim Pool]

D.C. i still, I mean, I. Yeah, but it's an opportunity for investment in new areas in the country, too, like Alaska or Greenland. Or Greenland. Trump wants to buy Greenland to put the deep state there. Send them all that. Fire you, but I can put you all in.

[Jack Posobiec]

What they don't realize is that the crystal fields are.

[Tim Pool]

Are.

[Jack Posobiec]

Are. Are in the subterranean layer in Greenland. And so we'll need lots of crystals and lots of storage space for certain purposes.

[Tim Pool]

Storing the deep state.

[Jack Posobiec]

Certain. Certain purposes. It's kind of like. Kind of like the Phantom Zone and Superman.

[Tim Pool]

In all seriousness, though, we should occupy Alaska as you had advocated for in.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Occupy Alaska look, if we're going to occupy anywhere, if we're going to invade anywhere, right, don't invade Afghanistan. Don't, you know, go for the lithium fields in, in, you know, East Tennessee or whatever it is. Go for Alaska. Just go for that. We should be using this as. Look, I went up there with, with Daniel Turner, who I know comes on here all the time, and he was showing us around, and look, there's some pristine, gorgeous, beautiful national parks up there. I love them. And by the way, we can tear.

[Tim Pool]

It all down to. Drill, baby, drill.

[Jack Posobiec]

I love Mount McKinley. And we're going to be calling it Mount McKinley again, renaming it Mount McKinley.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. What do they call it now? Denali I don't know.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because Its name is Mount McKinley. Tim.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's the only name I care.

[Tim Pool]

Also Barrow, I think, think. I think Trump should mandate as Barrow.

[Jack Posobiec]

Again because everyone's telling me that even though, even, like, the Alaskans are like, yeah, we don't. We just say Barrow. Like, we don't even. We can't even.

[Tim Pool]

It was. It was like a couple dozen activists who voted to change the name, and they did.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so then. But then he took us up to Prudhoe Bay after that, and we're up there and I was like, dude, it's. It's all mud. It's all mud. It's ugly. It's just like muddy tundra, like whatever kind of land. But, you know, it's under that. You know why it's muddy? Because it's oil. Because there's oil. Because there's not. This is Anwar. So it's oil. There's natural resources. And I kid you not. As we were driving around with Daniel Turner, this is a couple years ago now, and you know the whole thing about, like, the caribou. And it turns out that the caribou actually like the pipeline because it's warm and so it gives them the ability to breed more. So their numbers have actually gone up since the pipeline was built.

[Tim Pool]

They, like, huddle around it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Go look at. Oh, they do more than huddle, Tim. It starts with huddling. Is that what you call it? That's what it's called these days. Huddle it up. And. And as we were driving around, we actually saw a bunch of caribou, like, walking by the pipeline. I was like, did you plan this? Like, did you have, like a trailer with some caribou and a walkie talkie? Like, all right, pazomics coming around. Pull them out. And. And they. They were literally frolicking around this thing and it's like, this can work. This can totally work. Also on that trip, I did get the chance to. I was going to jump into the Arctic Ocean. And he was like, jack, I have liability like, issues. Don't. But I did get my hand in, so that's. That's an important one to get. So we got to do that.

[Tim Pool]

It was like, it was, I think negative 30 something, like when I was, when I was in Alaska. And that's nuts.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Standing outside for even, like a minute and icicles start forming everywhere on your face because as you breathe, it just starts freezing. Like, the humidity goes to your eyelashes and then you get just ice on your face. Nuts. And I Saw the Aurora Borealis at that time of year in that part of the country localized entirely above the Fairbanks Airport. Let's pull up this.

[Jack Posobiec]

I see it.

[Tim Pool]

No. All right, we got this. Shout out to Richie. This is from Fox News. Gavin Newsom defends fire response with fact check site linking to Democrat Party fundraising platform.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, linking to what?

[Tim Pool]

Democrat Party fundraising platform. Actually a political action committee called Act Blue.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's not real.

[Tim Pool]

There's no way Democrats are skimming 4% of your donations off the top. And it's totally legal. And I am not suggesting anything untoward. I just think it's unethical. That's my opinion. This is Act Blue. It's a big scandal. Go to YouTube.com timcast subscribe because we put up a video every 4pm we have a the essay breakdown on what ActBlue is, how they're basically skipping off the top. But we're gonna go over it right now. So check this out. Gavin Newsom posts this website, California Firefax, and he says, get the facts. And up top on the right, it says, donate to Cal Fire Foundation. Would you like to donate to the California Fire Foundation, Jack Posobic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, it's. I mean, who wouldn't. How dare you not.

[Tim Pool]

I am.

[Jack Posobiec]

I am refusing to donate to Cal Fire foundation button because you just hate the firemen, don't you?

[Tim Pool]

I cl. I clicked the button.

[Jack Posobiec]

All right, wait, hold on.

[Tim Pool]

What's that website say?

[Jack Posobiec]

That looks kind of. That's not a picture of a firefighter.

[Tim Pool]

Gavin Newsom.

[Jack Posobiec]

Gavin Newsom.

[Tim Pool]

And what does the website say? What's the URL?

[Jack Posobiec]

The URL says secure.actblue.com.

[Tim Pool]

That doesn't sound like firefighters. The firefighters called the Act Blue Fire Department. What's. What's. What's the name of the fundraising page?

[Jack Posobiec]

Campaign for Democracy.

[Tim Pool]

That doesn't sound like no firefighters.

[Phil Labonte]

My.

[Tim Pool]

And then it says this. Your donation will go directly towards supporting firefighters in the communities they serve, including directly direct financial support to impacted residents. Your contribution will benefit California Fire Foundation. So what's the problem? It's going to go to the firefighters, right? However, underneath it, it says contribution rules. Charitable donations made to this form are received and processed by ActBlue Charities, Inc. 501c3. Tax exempt organization formed to democratize charitable giving and are subject to Act Blue's terms of service. The merchant of record in this transaction is ActBlue Charities, Inc. We subsequently give your contribution to the organization or cause that you have selected on the contribution form within 30 days. Okay, well, so what's the issue here, Jack. I mean, it's not. I thought I was going to the firefighters website, but why is that a problem?

[Jack Posobiec]

So the issue with it is that you're, again, you're, you're, you're putting money in the pocket of a directly politically associated organization, Act Blue, which we know works to exist to elect or push for progressive values. That has nothing to do with directly impacting firefighters.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it directly impacted this, definitely.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're the cause facted.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely.

[Jack Posobiec]

Created the fires in the first place and potentially stand to benefit in some cases, like the plot of Chinatown tells us.

[Tim Pool]

Let me.

[Jack Posobiec]

Completely insane.

[Tim Pool]

Let me read this from fox news. The ActBlue website states that donations made via the platform include a 3.95 processing fee which is passed on to the groups using our platform. The New York Post reported that ActBlue waived the fees for fire donations, though the fundraising behemoth did not immediately respond to Fox Fox's digital request to comment. So here's the gist of it. If you go to the California Firefighter Fire Foundation's direct website, you can donate directly without 4% going to act Blue. Wow.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now, hold on.

[Tim Pool]

It doesn't say on the ActBlue site that they're waiving the fee, as far as I can tell. However, they are saying in the news report that they're waiving that fee. But the bigger story largely is that they're collecting your information and they're getting data. Yeah, getting your data, emails. They're going to know where you live. And they are using that to campaign for political office. They are manipulating and exploiting a disaster to try and win elected office.

[Jack Posobiec]

It doesn't. I mean, I can't get over this. By the way. It's a giant picture of Gavin Newsom. I mean, that right there is politicking. It's Gavin Newsom. It doesn't even. Like, he's just obviously at a political event. He has nothing to do with firefighting. Here.

[Tim Pool]

And it says donate to Cal Fire Foundation. And when you click it, it brings you to Gavin Newsom's campaign for democracy. I'm assuming it's his. It's a big picture of him. It's amazing, isn't it?

[Shane Cashman]

So in the 1970s, the Weather Underground domestic Marxist terrorists.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, yeah, Blew up.

[Shane Cashman]

A lot of people went to jail after being fugitives. Bill Ayers. Hold on. Bill Ayers. Susan Rosenberg. Bad people. Pardoned. Susan Rosenberg was pardoned by Bill Clinton on his last day. On his last day in office. She became a professor. Years later, she started Thousand Currents. And then during the 2020 riots, thousand currents helped Act Blue funnel all their money to bail funds for BLM terrorists. This is what they do, by the way. Loves to fund who was there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Who was their stepson, by the way?

[Shane Cashman]

Oh, he was the only guy recalled in California, I believe.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jesse Boudin.

[Shane Cashman]

Is that his name?

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't know if that's how you say it, but Chesa Boudin, who was the San Francisco da, who was basically the Soros back da, was the stepson of these two people, who, by the way, the reason he was their stepson was because their parents were in jail for all of the bombing.

[Shane Cashman]

Cuomo just pardoned.

[Tim Pool]

You were. You were wrong. But technically we're at the Weather Underground. Didn't blow anyone but themselves up.

[Shane Cashman]

Well, they killed some people in Nanny. What?

[Tim Pool]

There was. What was it? The shooting.

[Shane Cashman]

New York robbery on the bank robbery, right?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That was a shooting, wasn't it?

[Shane Cashman]

It might have been a shooting.

[Tim Pool]

The bombing was. The only people who were killed in Weather Underground bombings were three members of the Weather Underground. Okay, so they still killed people. They did blow up a lot of people themselves.

[Shane Cashman]

And they were planning to align the white elite overeducated degenerates with the Black Liberation Front, which is what they ended up doing with Susan Rosenberg and BLM in 2020.

[Tim Pool]

And by the way, that headline of the BLM Founders House is burning down was fake. It was, it was, it was. It was satire.

[Jack Posobiec]

Too good to be true.

[Shane Cashman]

But yeah, Bill Ayers raised that kid while his parents were in.

[Jack Posobiec]

The kid? Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

Cuomo, on his last day in office, pardoned that guy's dad at the behest of the son.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amazing.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, amazing. The left is better at organizing than. Than. Than you are. True. Than we are. Yeah, it's so. So look, I used to work for a bunch of these nonprofits and I was flabbergasted when me and my friends found out there's a network of progressive nonprofits where you've got to have three board members for a nonprofit. It's like secretary, treasurer and president or something. I don't know, I don't remember. It's been a while. And what they would do is they would have these unpaid board positions and then they would have executive staff positions and they would each get paid like 60 grand a year. Then between these people, they would be part of another non profit where the executive staffers are board members and the board members are executive staff. So they're all getting paid salaries, like 3, 4 salaries from each different Non profit, where they're differently on the boards of each. And we were like, wow, that's really crazy. They keep starting this nonprofits. Here's the. Here's the con. One of the reasons I got out of the industry, I remember asking a nonprofit, what do you do with the funds? So when we say like 90% of the funding goes to the cause, people ask like, if I give you 10 bucks, how much goes to the cause? We tell them $9. And they go, Really? 90? That's right. Only 10% is administrative. So I asked the guy, what is that 90% going towards? And he said, you fundraising? I said, what says? Isn't getting out and spreading the message the most important thing we can do? And I was like, you mean to tell me that we are raising money to pay ourselves to raise money? And he was like, yes, but we're educating the public while we do it of these problems in the environment. And it's the only way to bring about change is to affect the public in that way. And I was like, it sounds like you're full of full of it. And you're just malarkey. Full of malarkey.

[Jack Posobiec]

Little look. I do.

[Tim Pool]

Which. Which brings me to my good friends, Pod Save America. You guys want to talk about Pod Save America?

[Jack Posobiec]

I want to do a quick shout out on all this to a great Californian named Mike Sternovich right now. He's great big fan up on Givesend Go has raised, I believe something like $250,000. And then he and his family put up some money. They're working with Chef Gruel.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely.

[Jack Posobiec]

And those guys. And he's done. I know Breitbart did a write up earlier, said he's doing it in such a way where he's not even touching a single cent. Give Send Go. You know, I don't know if they have an administrative fee or not or not, but he's just putting all of his money where his mouth is. And he's just done that by himself, by the way, with no organization other than just posting it on Twitter.

[Shane Cashman]

Watch Newsom stuff.

[Tim Pool]

I'm a big fan. Got a lot of respect for Mike Cernovich. He's great. And the stuff he's doing down in California to help is fantastic. And also shout out to Chef Gruel. We're working with him on the Casper franchises and he's been leading charge. Leading the charge down in California to giving people a place to come together if they've lost their homes providing. Really fabricated this great story where he said Amazon truck Driver came and offered, brought them stuff and then helped out. Very cool to hear. And while we're talking about that, let's jump over to our friends over at Pod Save America. So give me the quick version. And I want to stress I don't think these guys are doing anything legally wrong. This is some of the most brilliant organizing I've ever seen. So someone pointed out that Pod Save America, that, that Vote Save America, a non profit, their biggest expenditure was media buys from Pod Save America. So you basically I'll just give you a simple version of the story. This guy John Favreau says you're a fraud. VSA Action isn't even a pack, it's a nonprofit. All you have to do is click the link to see where the money goes. And this is where things are being confused. Votes of America, a PAC and Votes of America Action are two different groups. Pods of America was fundraising for Vote Save America Action to assist with the fire relief. You donate to them, they break up the donations among five different charities through Act Blue, however, which by default takes a fee. So there is still that issue, their fundraiser. They're campaigning off this. But here's the real issue. So let me, let me pull up Vote Save America. Let's see if I can find this. Here we go. Influence Watch. Pod Save America, for those that don't know, is a large leftist liberal podcast. It's very prominent in this country. According to Influence Watch. Vote Save America is an online voter guide guide guide operated by left of center political media company Crooked Media. VSA's Adopt a State campaign steers activists who do not reside in battleground states to volunteer in the effort. Blah blah blah. We get the point, we get the point. They're progressives. So it's run by Crooked Media, which is Pod Save America. Pod Save America. So, so here's their website, Vote Save America. I want to donate to support the anxiety relief program. It says when you click it, your contribution will benefit Vote Save America. They say that they started the anxiety relief program to fund grassroots organizations, campaigns and voter protection efforts that are too often overlooked. In 2024, because of donors generosity, they raised $3.7 million. That funding supported over 67 partner organizations, 14 states, 36 down ballot candidates, 45 House campaigns, seven U.S. senate campaigns. Would you like to see the number one expenditure for vote Save America? It's Crooked Media. I'm not saying they're not contributing to these other platforms. They're not helping. I'm not saying they're doing anything wrong. I'm saying this is brilliant from the looks of things, and I could be missing context, and I think that's fair. It appears to me that Pod Save America promotes a nonprofit that they run, and then the nonprofit pays the podcast to promote them.

[Shane Cashman]

It's a human centipede.

[Jack Posobiec]

What. What percentage is that?

[Tim Pool]

It looks. I could, again, I could be wrong, but maybe about 35 to 40%.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's huge.

[Tim Pool]

$2.8 million. Their second largest expenditure is them is Vote Save America, which presumably themselves, I don't know, at 387,000, followed by Blue State Digital 260 Act Blue 152 Pack for America's Future. I do think it's fair to say that. I think if we look at their total. I don't know if we can take their total. I don't know, total revenue. You can see their total expenses. All right, here we go. Contributions. They gave 2.2. In media. It was 2.2. So I don't know. I think to. To Crooked Media, which is their media company. It's not just ad buys. It's also consulting and other things. But you can see it's 32.31 media of their expenditures. I think it's brilliant. What. The point I'm bringing you guys is that the left organizes better than the right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Okay? But there's a corollary to that, is that when Steve Bannon set up a nonprofit, or actually promoted a nonprofit that he didn't even set up himself to fund the building of a private wall. So, you know, conservatives said, hey, you know what? We really want this wall built. And this is back when Mitch McConnell and those guys were blocking the funding and President Trump was trying to use military funding, declare a national emergency because we had a giant illegal alien problem. They said, all right, we'll get private land, we'll set up a nonprofit. We'll get people to donate to the nonprofit. We'll crowdfund this, and then we can build the wall, literally ourselves, on private land. And he's going to jail for that because they found a. They're claiming that, by the way, there are already people in jail for that. He had federal charges on that, which required a pardon. He has state charges for that that are coming up under Letitia James in New York City and Alvin Bragg and all of this. So they're trying to put Steve Bannon in jail. He goes on trial, by the way, next month in New York City over this, and, by the way, over one donor. They used a straw donor. I think it's like a $21 donation. And this guy said, I feel like I was defrauded because of the percentages that were not going to the wall, that were going to other places, which, by the way, they were lower than average for the. For charitable organizations. Like, look at Wounded Warriors. This is a huge problem, by the way, with the Red Cross, that the Red Cross gets criticized like this for a ton because why would they spend so much of their money on, like you were saying, fundraising. Fundraising activities. But Steve Bannon is going to go to jail for that because we have lawfare in this country. So, yes, agreed that liberals do have a massive generational and it is one generation ahead. And you got great people out there like Charlie Kirk and others, by the way, shout out to the Turning Point Ball. I hear it's gonna be pretty hot this. This Sunday night. I plan to be there and as well as the coronation Ball. But look, you know, when the right tries to do that, literally, we get put in jail.

[Tim Pool]

Yep, yep.

[Phil Labonte]

This is. There will be no kind of. There will be nothing even close to resembling an investigation or anything like that. I mean, no one's gonna even look at these guys crossly.

[Tim Pool]

So here, here's a quick point doing. I'm going to start the Filibante foundation for Saving Sick Cats. And when, you know, you donate to that foundation, rest assured you are doing the most effective thing you can do to help save sick cats. Then, of course, Phil, your foundation owes me for that ad read I just did. So pay me all the money. Isn't spreading the word about sick cats the most important thing you can do to save them?

[Phil Labonte]

Of course it is.

[Tim Pool]

There you go. What's. There's nothing illegal about that. Right.

[Shane Cashman]

Is Pod Save America, the guys who were the Obama speechwriters?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think some of them. Yeah, right.

[Shane Cashman]

So they're correct.

[Tim Pool]

They have a Stacey Abrams podcast.

[Shane Cashman]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Basically, the simple version is people donate to this political action committee for a variety of causes. I don't know how they allocate their funds, but it does appear, just based on open secrets, that a large. Their largest expenditure by. By a lot single is their own media company. So look, look, I think Democrats love this. I want to stress this. If you go to a progressive and say, did you know when you donate to this charity, you're actually helping fund leftist podcasts. They're gonna go, that's awesome. We need a media narrative machine. All these liberals keep screaming at how they need to make money to do this. They are loving the machine operates this way.

[Shane Cashman]

It's a religion.

[Tim Pool]

The thing is, there's gonna be a lot of regular people who don't know this and don't know they're inadvertently funding media shows or Act Blue.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I mean, again, there's an entire. One of the, one of the most brilliant things that George Soros ever did was just simply create the make work ecosystem of the left. To say that you can be a liberal progressive activist and yet have a full time job, make like $150,000 a year and go and do this work for progressive causes full time. There's nothing like that.

[Tim Pool]

I thought you were gonna say it was that he convinced the world he didn't exist.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're there. No, that's Kevin Spacey. The, the. It's, it's brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant. Then his best ROI move, of course, was the prosecutors. But this idea that you can just have a, a generation of millennials that exist and have their entire lives and their families to the extent that they have families or their designer children that they purchase from surrogates gone and, and bought for by this donor money is, it's, it's genius. And when you go to people on the right and you'll say like, oh, we need to donate for this thing, they say, what's the ROI on that? It's like, well, the ROI is that we win the culture and then thus win the country. And they sit there and go, like, I don't think that's going to make money. I'm not donating. That's why you don't see good conservative movies. That's why for, you know, by and large, that's why you're, you don't see good conservative content outside of stuff like, I'm not even saying this is conservative content. We're just talking about the news here outside of a few others, because you don't see these massive donors just writing checks and putting it into the ecosystem like that.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Let's jump to the story from USA Today. We have good news, everybody. Don't worry, Directed energy weapons did not start the LA wildfires because this guy, Andre Biek, who works in an office somehow knows that. Listen, I don't think the wildfires were started by lasers or anything like this, but the idea that some dude sitting in his office debunked the claim is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Like, bro, maybe if the fire chief comes out and tells us definitively what started the fires, I, I will agree with, it's debunked. But what ends up happening with these fact checkers is they go, that sounds crazy. So I'm going to call it fake. And then they just run fact check fake. Yeah, that's, that's how we, that's how we ended up with people saying lab leak isn't real. Because the narrative machine said, no, Covid lab leak isn't real. And now they're saying Covid lab leak is what happened. So the claim image shows directed energy weapons caused 2025 wildfires. Now, to be fair, I think it's fine if you say that the image is wrong. Our rating false. The causes of the LA fires has not been announced as of January 10th. There's no credible evidence the fires were caused by directed energy weapons which have repeatedly and falsely been linked to high profile wildfires for years. Look, if I'm to be honest, as a newsman, I would just say unverified.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right?

[Shane Cashman]

Well, now I think there's lasers.

[Jack Posobiec]

Did you. Right.

[Tim Pool]

As soon as they say it's not.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm like, did you see the Newsweek thing with Tulsi Gabbard today that Alexa Henning put out? So this, this is incredible. I have it here. Just, I pulled it up on X. This was amazing. So Alexa Henning and she works, I think she, she was in the Trump White House before. So they reached out and they said, hi, Tulsi Gabbard spreads Russian and Assad propaganda. Can you comment her? She responds back, can you send me exact quotes of this? They send over a few Newsweek articles. And then she's like, but wait, there aren't any exact quotes in here. What, what quotes are you specifically referring to? And this is the. So here's, this is Sophie Grace Clark, who's another one of these type of fact checkers and saying, have you included her exact quotes? Here's the response. That is not what the story is about. I am merely providing context around her choice as a cabinet pick. If I write a longer story on her in the future, I will turn to those quotes. Thank you for sending me your time and your reference to Trump's statement on her nomination. I've used that in the story. So this is amazing because it's like she's saying, can you ask me what specific quotes from Colsi Gabbard you would like me to respond to? And I'll give you a response to them. And she's saying, nope, I'm not writing a story about things she said. I'm writing story. A story about things that we think about her.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

And you have to respond to that. So, so without any basis in direct fact. There's just these comments about, and it gets into, I mean, this brutal stuff, you know, chemical weapons attacks and Assad and, and Russia and the invasion of 2022. And it's like all this, you know, all this pretty obviously very heavy, very serious stuff. And she's going to be going in as the Director of National Intelligence. So, you know, hugely influential job. And so they're like, okay, let's, you know, let's get this outright. We're going to have these confirmation battles. And she doesn't even give the actual quote. She just says this story is about the broader context, about her.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Shane Cashman]

That's why their readership is dying.

[Tim Pool]

All of them. Washington Post readership is down 90%. You saw that.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's like, yeah, it's like 87. They. About 90%.

[Tim Pool]

Because fact checking needs to be logical. So again my point, I've, I've. If someone asked me, do you. I'll put this way, if I'm hanging out at dinner with like family and someone said, hey, I saw a post online, it said that, that direct energy weapons or lasers may have started the fires. I'd say, well, I haven't seen any, any evidence that's convincing me that that's true. We don't know it started the fires. That's how I'd respond.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Tim Pool]

But imagine someone goes, hey, I heard that lasers are the fire. And I said, that's completely false. They'd be like, oh, how do you know? Because it sounds stupid.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

That's what they're saying. That's what these fact checks and debunks are.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right. And it also, it also gets into the epistemological question of we have all the truth.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Jack Posobiec]

We have all the science, we have all the knowledge. We can know everything under the sun. And it's like, do you not even have a little bit of humility to say that? You know, what if, what if just maybe just this once, that there was some, I don't know, let's. Maybe not even some like giant Dr. Evil kind of like, you know, flying satellite directed energy weapon. But what if it was some kid who was building a project in his house and it went awry? How do you know that that didn't happen?

[Shane Cashman]

I wonder if USA Today reported on the lasers that Ukraine's using because they're using lasers to shoot down things.

[Jack Posobiec]

You shut down drones, right? Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

So like lasers or how about China.

[Tim Pool]

Laser scanned Hawaii, Remember that?

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Chinese satellites fired lasers to scan the topology of Hawaii. And there's a video.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You can watch the video. It's a crazy video.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, it's crazy. Also, this is taking away from Steve Baker just put out a pretty crazy article at the Blaze about directed energy weapons being used against people in the protest during 2020.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Shane Cashman]

Millie was talking about it took him like two years to write this thing. It's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Whoa.

[Shane Cashman]

And they're like energy weapons that could make your blood feel like it's boiling.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. Or like an active denial system.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

Crazy stuff.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, I will say this about Havana syndrome and I know as well, wild as it sounds, I like Eric Prince talked to me offline and he's like, I mean, he's pretty credible guy. He's in that world. He's like, he's like, I know people that like, yeah, there's probably some people who, you know, maybe that just be getting a little bit of mass hysteria, but there's other people who have just had been in that world and have had stuff happen and it's associated with this and something is clearly happening to.

[Shane Cashman]

Them and have long term effects or.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like long term effects.

[Shane Cashman]

It's scary.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah. And that is. And. And then I had other people who reached out who are also in that world and said. Because I had had some tweet about it and they were like, no, no, no, no. Like there is actually something out there. And by the way, we have stuff too.

[Tim Pool]

You ever hear the story about the guy who stuck his head in a particle accelerator? No.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

Was it Ian?

[Tim Pool]

It was. I. It might have been. So the guy was like doing maintenance on a particle accelerator and then his head went in the path of the, of the proton. It went. Went right through his skull. But it's a single proton. So like he was seemingly fine, but then it caused weird issues with his brain and how he behaved and how he acted. So.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it was Ian.

[Tim Pool]

Imagine if you were able to fire a single particle. No one would be able to see it.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You wouldn't feel it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But you would start having a mental breakdown. Your brain wouldn't work properly.

[Jack Posobiec]

Gamma ray.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, how would you detect that? How would you. How would you CSI that one?

[Shane Cashman]

Right, right.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, you're not going to do anything.

[Shane Cashman]

So we need to, you know, but.

[Jack Posobiec]

This, but, but the issue is, the issue that we're getting at is the mentality of the. We know all science worshipers. You know, like these types who say we have the ability to have all knowledge at our fingertips and we know for a fact that this is absolutely not true. And. And by the way, to be fair, like I'll even be fair, because he's talking about an image, right? So, yeah, okay, the image is not true in this case. But we know the mentality that we're getting at because we've all dealt with it and we've all dealt with those people.

[Tim Pool]

Let me read this for you guys.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is.

[Tim Pool]

You got. There's something for you on for Sunday or something.

[Jack Posobiec]

You got that crazy look in your eye again.

[Tim Pool]

Anatoly Bogorski, 1978, was checking on a malfunctioning piece of equipment when the safety mechanisms failed. He was leaning over the machine when the beam hit him, passing through the back of his head, the occipital and temporal lobes of his brain, the left middle earth, and out through the left side, left hand side of his nose. If they say that he survived, completed his PhD, but he had health problems. Left side face paralysis, hearing loss in his left ear, seizures. The beam burned a line through his brain, but he didn't experience mental decline. The half of his face that was hit by the beam didn't seem to age, which led some speculation the proton beams could prevent wrinkles. The beam was narrowly focused, which may have helped limit the damage to Bugorski's brain. Most radiation exposure affects the whole body, but in his case, the damage was concentrated to a single area. Great.

[Shane Cashman]

Now celebrities are going to beam their faces.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're going to be in the movie.

[Shane Cashman]

They already are young.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's what caused the fire. See, we just figured it out. It was celebrities using particle accelerators to even mortality to achieve immortality, to stop the wrinkles. And it's not both.

[Tim Pool]

Anyone seen Brian Johnson?

[Jack Posobiec]

This is the next thing. Another guy.

[Shane Cashman]

That guy looks like. Like, I don't like looking at that.

[Phil Labonte]

Ryan Johnson.

[Jack Posobiec]

From Ryan Johnson, the backwards aging guy.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yes.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I guess a lot of people hate that guy. I got no beef.

[Shane Cashman]

I have no beef. I'm happy for him, but it freaks me out.

[Tim Pool]

I'm excited. Like, he is.

[Jack Posobiec]

He is kind of creepy.

[Shane Cashman]

Transhumanism, to be fair.

[Tim Pool]

Like, you know, when he's like, I look younger and everything, I'm like, you don't. You just look kind of weird. But that's okay. Like, I'm trying to. I'm not trying to be mean. He seems like a nice guy. You know what I mean? Like.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, he does. He does. Like, I'll give him a lot of credit because he does that. He. He. He kind of leans into it. He jokes about it and it looks kind of weird and that. And that he'll just go back and forth and mix it up on X and I'll give anybody respect who just does that. Yeah, Yeah. I personally just, I think it looks.

[Tim Pool]

A little weird considering he's putting himself through this insane like immortality treatment and it's affected his appearance. I think it's worth pointing out the negative element of that. But you know, personality wise and everything he's doing I think is really cool. So he was posting like, why, why are there so many haters who hate what I'm doing? It's like he's living his life. He's. He's doing what he wants to do. He's. The research is going to be greatly beneficial to humanity. I'm all for it.

[Phil Labonte]

Just there's a lot.

[Shane Cashman]

I don't think we should be promoting transhumanism.

[Tim Pool]

I mean I look at what he's doing as more like medical research.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

I mean if he doesn't want to die, that seems like beyond.

[Tim Pool]

But nobody want like we. Someone's got a bad heart.

[Shane Cashman]

Dying unfortunately is part of life.

[Tim Pool]

But.

[Jack Posobiec]

But is, is. I think I, I guess the distinction would be, would be between transhuman, like pure transhumanism and biohacking.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or medicine. Like imagine going back in time a thousand years and someone's like their hearts giving out. And you said, I can give you a new heart and they'd be like this transhumanist nonsense. You can't get a new heart now. We do it all the time.

[Shane Cashman]

Does he want, he wants to be in his own body like I thought. I've seen him say he wants to be in another body at some point.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, maybe. I don't know.

[Shane Cashman]

My point where you get into the transhumanist.

[Tim Pool]

If he's doing stuff where he said the best thing you can do to fight aging is eat olive oil. And I'm like, okay, that's fair. Yeah, it's totally fine. If, if he started advocating for nanite injections into your brain to cyberize, like in Ghost in the Shell, I might be like, whoa.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, yeah, over there, Nelly. I'm out.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's where Kurzweil, like neural link is already getting me going like, whoa. Like, I'm a big fan of Elon, but Neuralink, I unders. I understand curing paralysis and things like that. It's fantastic. But I also am deeply terrified of what Neuralink will do.

[Shane Cashman]

The far reaching future consequences of it are, are terrifying. But the Short term benefits are beautiful for parap and people with seizures and who are blind. I get it.

[Tim Pool]

But actually I take that back. I am really excited for Neuralink. I beg and I pray. Jack, do you know what happened right now? If Elon came out, did a press conference and he said we have successfully achieved read write capabilities with Norlink and it can be implanted right now into anyone for $50, we'll do it.

[Jack Posobiec]

You sign it up.

[Tim Pool]

No, but every liberal will and then they're going to live in the pod eating the bugs and we don't got to worry about it anymore.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean they kind of already just.

[Shane Cashman]

Like how all the liberals.

[Tim Pool]

But imagine like you know it dude. Every like liberal dude's going to be like I'd rather fight a dragon and they're going to plug right in and go into Star wars world.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean that's not necessarily like the liberals. That's the Omega males. So. Or like just largely or the gamma males. Right. These are like beyond beta, beyond delta, like way down in the food chain. They're just like, they've totally pulled themselves out of the gene pool. That's. And it's all, it's like you said like just, just largely Democrat. You know they do tend to be largely Democrat but it's, it is a separate type of thing than just a committed liberal. They are, they are your Reddit atheist type.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. However, the moment that turns on the next election cycle swings Republican five points.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because they're all fighting dragons in Star Wars.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because they're going to be like why do I care about your election, dude? I'm, I'm, I'm the Sith emperor.

[Shane Cashman]

Like they're buying those sex robots that were at that new you plug your.

[Tim Pool]

Brain in and they're all going to be in this world every, everyone's a 20 year old busty woman and they're a samurai fighting dragons. They're going to plug their brains into Wally world.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, they're the busty woman fighting the dragon or they're the. Some of them.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, some of these guys. Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're mixing and matching the neuralinks.

[Tim Pool]

Some of absolutely do that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Some of it has gone wrong. If, if, if you have questions on your on, on which fantasy you'd like to in your neuralink send your emails to 1776 human events dot com. That's 1776@human events dot com.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to the story from Bloomberg China discusses sale of Tick Tock us to Musk. WoW is one possible option, but wait. Tick Tock denies report. Yeah, they call the report that China is exploring sale of app to Elon Musk pure fiction. I think TikTok should be banned. I think that what was happening was TikTok was largely banning conservatives, we have no control over it, so conservatives wanted to get rid of it. So TikTok switched and started allowing conservatives. And then all of a sudden Trump's like, like, we did really well, so we're going to keep it now. And I'm like, yeah, and the moment you keep it, they're going to turn on you to get you impeached and removed from power. I don't, I don't like the deep state controlling social media, but at least there's some recourse and investigations and FOIA requests. I'm not a fan of TikTok. I think they should divest from any foreign partners.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I think that, I mean, look.

[Jack Posobiec]

You'Re saying you're not a fan of TikTok as currently constituted.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. If TikTok divested, totally fine. I think they're censorious and, and, and, and bad. But, but they're allowed to operate so long as we are not at risk nationally.

[Phil Labonte]

If TikTok, if TikTok is preferential to shutting down as opposed to selling, I think that speaks to what the actual function of TikTok is. I think that it's likely an intelligence gathering op by the Chinese, by the CCP more than anything else. And so I honestly, like, normally I'm just like, you know, let companies exist, but I do think that there's a national security issue because of the fact that it's not just about, it's not just about who has it or if someone in a position of authority has it, but their family, your kid, if you're, if you're, you know, you work for Boeing or you work for Lockheed Martin and your kid has tick tock. They could be, they could be accessing your kids information and stuff. There's, there's a, people aren't. I think the average person isn't aware of how much information you can glean with an app that has access to the entirety of a cell phone that's in, in someone's home, like.

[Jack Posobiec]

But I guess devil's advocate on that is. Couldn't you say the same thing about US Apps and the US national security agencies?

[Shane Cashman]

I agree.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, yeah, but the, the fact of the matter is US Apps are like, well, the Chinese using them for espionage against the United States is not the same thing. Not that it's not that the U.S. no, no, no.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm not saying they're not. What I'm saying is, though, is, wouldn't you. Couldn't you also apply that to.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

U.S. intel agencies conducting espionage against our own citizens?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, but the United States isn't going to outlaw apps when they're using them. Like, this is. If you're talking.

[Jack Posobiec]

Of course not if you're talking.

[Phil Labonte]

If you're talking about, like, China versus the U.S. like, I mean, I think that the government shouldn't be doing that either. But the, the question isn't, will the government stop or how do we get the government to stop. The question is, is tick tock a. An espionage tool for a foreign entity? And I think it is.

[Tim Pool]

So.

[Phil Labonte]

And yeah, I mean, look, if I, if, If I could go ahead and wave a magic wand and make sure that the government doesn't use your. Any apps to, to track people and stuff like that, I do it in a second, but I don't have that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I just. I don't know. I, I just think it's more complicated. I mean, even with, like, even if they sell it to some American, it's like, well, what happens if that American just so happens to be, you know, a guy who's here based on, you know, birthright citizenship and his parents are Chinese?

[Phil Labonte]

They're still espionage.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so, yeah, there's still espionage laws for sure. But again, like, like, it's. It, you know, espionage is a very.

[Tim Pool]

This is just, this is just the.

[Phil Labonte]

Argument of the perfect being the enemy of the good.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but at least we have FOIA requests and we have some recourse via lawsuits in the United States.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no, I'm not, I'm not saying that it shouldn't be done. I guess I'm just saying that it, you know, if we think that, oh, they've divested and the problem's gone away, and, you know, you can just go and use your phone to your heart's content again, like, no, like, that's not a thing. So any time, like, John McAfee used to talk about this, privacy does not exist if you are using one of these things. You think, I'm encrypted, I'm good. No, no, they are looking over your shoulders. They can pull whatever they want. And yeah, like, maybe it's harder for the CCP to get in, but that doesn't mean that, you know, that the agency and the Feds can't get in whenever they want. Just. You don't believe me? Go ask any Gen 6 or anyone who served in the Trump administration that actually supported the agenda.

[Phil Labonte]

The debate here isn't, isn't, is the American government always good? Because the American government is not always good. That's not even the, that's not the question at hand. The question at hand is do, should the American government allow a foreign country to operate what is likely a spy tool in America, in America without, you know, any kind of. Well, should they allow it to be. Operate.

[Tim Pool]

That's the question.

[Jack Posobiec]

Have you heard, have you heard the conspiracy theory on this? So the conspiracy theory on this was that who's, who's had like the most dominant TikTok trends over the last six months? Months. Like politically speaking, it's all, it's all been Donald Trump related. Right? So the, the ymca, Trump dance or obviously like, like the Trump hat or the eating the cats, eating the dogs became like the number one song. So the conspiracy theory is that like Tick Tock realized that through their algorithms that Trump was going to win. So they switched themselves to look like they were pro Trump because that they would be able to get the influence to say, no, no, don't ban us now.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I was saying.

[Jack Posobiec]

Pro you in the moment.

[Tim Pool]

Moment Trump backs off, they go crush him. Don't let him win ever again.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, not even if. It doesn't even matter if that's the goal to crush Trump. The fact of the matter is they want to continue. If, if, if you take the idea that TikTok is a, is a, an espionage tool, all they want is to Keep operating the U.S. that's the goal. So if they have Donald Trump that has a positive opinion of them, then maybe they have a better chance of continuing to operate Tick Tock in the United States. It doesn't matter if they like Trump or not. I don't even think they can. I don't think they matter. They care. They care. I don't think it matters who it is. It's a matter of who's going to allow them to continue to operate so they can continue to have this, this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tool in the U.S. so you're saying total ban.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I think if they divest in, an American company takes over and they don't have. The servers are no longer run by ByteDance, the servers are in the US I don't really have a problem with it, but.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I mean, but I guess what I'm saying is you could easily construct. Not easily, but. But you could construct a more perhaps classical espionage structure with shell corporations.

[Phil Labonte]

Jack, you know, all of you know, the vast majority, like, they could get.

[Jack Posobiec]

The, they could still.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but the point that I'm making. Well, first of all, it doesn't have the psychological effect if they just have hardware.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

So everybody knows, or everybody is, is generally of the opinion that most of the, the hardware that comes from China has some kind of backdoor that the CCP could access if they wanted, like.

[Jack Posobiec]

Literally all of our hardware.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, that's so much.

[Shane Cashman]

Why, why do.

[Phil Labonte]

That's, that's not. Well, because we can't make drones in the US because the government's stupid, the FAA stupid.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now you're getting to what I was talking about is that the, it's basically. And I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, what I'm saying is that this is a much more complex problem than just like, oh, he's on it, over to Elon Musk, we're good to go. Like.

[Phil Labonte]

No, the point, the point that I'm making is TikTok can operate as a psychological tool. Your, your computer hardware that they can get into. It's not, not, it's not the same thing. They're not going to be adjusting the algorithm to mess with people's head when they're, when, when they can just track your key.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, that's what they said about the Romanian election. Right. So that's why. So Romania had their presidential election a couple of months ago and they, and this just out of like, I guess out of right field candidate Juan, who was super anti NATO, anti eu. And they came in and said, oh, Russia manipulated Tick tock so much that he was able to swing that it swung the election. And they did so through an influence operation, like you're saying. So the Supreme Court of Romania came in and annulled the election and took away all the actual people voted in Romania for this guy. And they came in and they, they went for it and they said, so this is where, I mean, this is kind of like a, an almost, you know, you know, more of a bigger, a larger social question is, well, ok, wait a minute. So just because they had this influence, people still voted and that the Supreme Court annulled the election based on TikTok.

[Shane Cashman]

DARPA had a program, I think in 2011 about how they could operate people through influence people through social media influencers, because they could see people like they were drones, you know. So like all these apps are working against you? Yes, all of them, yes. From. And our government is a, is an enemy, in my opinion. Know, foreign Enemy. And they've, you know, taken over, and they're completely infiltrated all the social media. And I wonder how many influencers have marched out of darpa, you know, for both sides of the party.

[Phil Labonte]

Influencers?

[Shane Cashman]

Oh, for sure. I think there's a ton of people who are totally just propped up, like.

[Jack Posobiec]

Mockingbird style, and they wouldn't know.

[Shane Cashman]

They've been doing Mockingbird.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you.

[Jack Posobiec]

You wouldn't know right now.

[Tim Pool]

So I.

[Jack Posobiec]

At all.

[Tim Pool]

It's actually real simple. I don't know if you guys know this, but we ran an ad on Sam Cedar's channel making fun of him so that people who watched Majority Report would see us. It was. It was like, what was it? Me, Seamus, and you, Phil, Like. And we were like, so this is what we did. We made a video where he called.

[Jack Posobiec]

Me a political hitman once.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that's.

[Shane Cashman]

That's not bad.

[Jack Posobiec]

Not bad.

[Tim Pool]

So it's. The video started with me saying something like, no, actually, I think. Wait a minute. You're not gonna watch this guy's video, are you? Nah, you don't want to watch him. Come watch us instead. And it was like. I was like, we don't want to be mean or disparaging. It's more meant to be, like, a prank and funny, and he's getting money for it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And so I had that commercial rant run on his channel, but that means. It means I paid him, so.

[Jack Posobiec]

You paid him. Yeah, that's right.

[Tim Pool]

You can go on YouTube on Google Ads and pay any creator to run ads on their. On their content. You can choose their channel, and you can say, I want this amount of money and this amount of ads to appear on this channel. So as it goes, one way to launder and prop up a personality who's not good is to make sure their ad inventory is 100% sold old. You're not making them big. You're making sure that if they get views, they get the maximum amount of money for those views. It's a way to pay people who have a message you like. So if you're a foreign government or even the US Government, the US Government can buy ads, like, liminally, subliminally, and superliminally.

[Jack Posobiec]

Hey, you.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. Join the Navy. They can. All the Simpsons references. The Navy can literally run ads on your channel. And. And the government be like, what's our ad budget? Buy ads on that channel. Or they can run a shell corporation through intelligence that runs ads on your channel. And then you're sitting there being like, dude, I make tons of money on YouTube. And that makes sure you can survive, expand and grow. And here's the best part. You can target videos so they can make sure that certain videos generate more money than other videos. Then what happens? YouTube creator makes a video about Israel, makes a bunch of money. They say, oh, wow, when I do videos on Israel, I make a lot of money. You can easily control what people are gonna talk about based on view counts, likes and their revenue streams. So there are probably a lot of personalities who are propped up and they don't even know it.

[Jack Posobiec]

I can give you an example off the top of my head, because I looked this up. Do you remember, like, a couple years ago, I guess I was talking about this phenomenon of the hiclib, and it was.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was like this sort of like. Like you're. Yeah, Kevin Costner and yellowstoning, which, by the way, totally vindicated on with the final episode where. Where they tore down Yellowstone Ranch, gave it to the Native Americans. They're like, they're kicking over the graves. Everything like, no, put it back up. They're like, I'm gonna kick it down anyway. Elder. And so I was talking about this thing called the Hicklib phenomenon, where it was like, someone who has sort of the aesthetics, if you will, of a sort of Midwestern conservative type then has these, like, very liberal, extreme social justice reactions. And so I was digging into this in 2023, and I. I had this guy, it was called Bo or Bo or Bo of the Fifth Column. He. Him. And so he does this like, gun channel and, you know, kind of one of the. I guess I call him Gun Tubers, you know. You know, and it was like, okay, you know, he's got the beard, he's got the hat. Like, he kind of looks like, you know, he could sort of just looks like the kind of guy who would. Would you watch one of these channels and that. That would be it. And that every once in a while he would throw something in there about, like, trans acceptance or like, you know, just name your, you know, SJW type topic and it would go. It would go throw in. But then here's where it got, you know, took a darker turn because it. The Los Angeles Times actually reported on this, and I saved the article. It said after. After the January 6th Capitol insurrection.

[Phil Labonte]

Good grief.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tech companies began experiment, experimenting with. And came under increasing pressure from the US Government to prevent the spread of extremism on their platforms. So they. An Internet figure named BO of the Fifth Column became one of the beneficiaries of this. Because listen to this, the idea was bait and switch. The LA Times give people online searching online for terms like join the Oath Keepers or quote bomb instructions, some content that seemed to fit their request, but instead offered an alternative. The method developed by, by what's called Moonshot CVE is called the Redirect. Through partnerships with Google as well as the Anti Defamation League, the adl, the British firm's goal was to dissuade users from pursuing conspiracies and violent rhetoric by luring them with advertisements to other sites. And so I'm like, okay, the ADL was involved in this as well as something called Moonshot cve. I'm like, what's a British firm? So I go, I'm like, let me go look up this Moonshot CVE and figure out what that is. And so they're astroturfing this hicklib identity. And what's interesting about the British government is they actually have pretty good records on who they give their, who they give their funding to. And these different, they're non profits basically because they'll have to be registered. So it's like, okay, here's Moonshot CV Countering Violent Extremism. Moonshot team.com London, United Kingdom and this is the best part because. Wait a minute, where did the money come from? Yes, it's a British firm, but the money came from the United States State Department. Wow, $3.6 million. And this was just the one donation that we've got like the, the sub grant and all of it. So wait a minute, in the LA Times they refer to it as a British firm, but it was a British firm funded by the US State Department to go through into Google and say, oh, we're fighting hate by propping up this guy which directly sends you to his fort. And by the way, welcome to the.

[Tim Pool]

Five Eyes Spy club.

[Jack Posobiec]

He may not have known at all, he might have no idea. And by the way, there's like actually a bunch of other stuff because apparently the guy was like, was like a convicted felon and had been involved in like human trafficking and a bunch of other stuff which is like really messed up and clearly and that they didn't realize that either. So that was one of the reasons that the LA Times reporting on it. But what they uncovered was this massive web web of your money that was being spread around just like what you're talking about, Tim, and just like what you're talking about that props up certain people on YouTube or other functions and Google says, hey, we're just fighting hate. We're just, we're fighting extremism. And yet you're propping up certain content.

[Shane Cashman]

Like they think it's only going to.

[Jack Posobiec]

Get worse and it's only.

[Shane Cashman]

Moving forward. It's going to get way worse. And people are, it's like they're, they're luring people into invisible, like re education camps. They don't even know they're.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, you don't even know.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

So that's the thing, they don't, they won't even need to send us to re education camps because you'll go to YouTube and you'll, you'll just look up something like how to, you know, reconstruct an AR lower and they'll send you to one of these, one of these things. And then the guy just every once in a while mentioned something liberal, mentioned something social justice, mentioned something, you know, oh, and you gotta believe in evolution, you know, and, and it just, and I think go back to.

[Shane Cashman]

They're gonna try really hard to subvert the subversion converters.

[Jack Posobiec]

Exactly.

[Shane Cashman]

Like, they know the podcast world is now ruling. Right. Like Trump used podcasts.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes. And the mainstream podcast will be the next target.

[Shane Cashman]

That's their target. And it's probably been like that for years. But it's going to get way worse now because they realize that's where the audience is. So they're going to sprinkle in their narratives to try to pacify dissident voices.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're already seeing that a little bit with the, the woke light phenomenon that these guys who, who pop up and it's typically these former liberal. And I don't feel like naming current liberals and. Right, right. They're always like, I'm a former liberal, but a classic liberal. And they come over and they say, I'm going to. I'm against trans. But like, that's about it. And like I'm with. With them on everything, every single other thing. And then they immediately start gatekeeping the right and gatekeeping dissidents and gatekeeping populists and say, you can't believe that. You can't talk about that issue. You can't do that. And that's why I call them the woke light.

[Tim Pool]

And the exact same way the woke do it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Exact same.

[Tim Pool]

So that's why I describe wokeness as the cult, like adherence to the liberal orthodoxy.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

What the woke light are doing, these are disaffected liberals that are still liberal. And they're saying those liberals are bad. We are the true liberals. Be like us. And if you're not. You're the woke, right? And the woke right phenomenon is basically the same as calling, Calling someone alt right. It's a meaningless term that basically says, you are our enemy. So it's funny when these guys are like the woke, right? I'm like, you have, you are the woke, right?

[Jack Posobiec]

You're acting woke. You're woke light.

[Tim Pool]

But I call them, I call them woke, right? Because they're, they're the right side of the left side.

[Jack Posobiec]

So I started.

[Tim Pool]

They're still on the left.

[Jack Posobiec]

So I started that.

[Tim Pool]

But I, I like what you're saying.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was doing the same thing at first, but then it's just the waters were too muddied because people were like, wait, what are you talking about? I couldn't figure this out. So it, like, just explain it. Woke light. Lit. Also, if you prefer diet woke. Credit to Malcolm Flex for that one. Diet woke.

[Tim Pool]

But yeah, these guys are like, the woke are crazy. And we are the true liberals. You should be like, us, us.

[Shane Cashman]

Hello, fellow kids.

[Tim Pool]

And then, and then they say, like, I got. We, we, we. We had on the members only show. We got into this because I was like, someone asked James Lindsay, what exam? Like, what is an example of the woke, right? And he said, Aaron McIntyre. And I was like, what? How? He's like a post liberal. I don't know. I don't know exact political positions, but it's like America first, immigration, critical. What does it have to do with the people who hate Jews? When he starts lumping in this, like, the people who believe the Jews control everything, with people who like Christianity and believe in nationalism and Tucker Carlson, I'm like, you're basically just saying anybody who's on the right is woke, right? That sounds like you're saying alt right. It's just a meaningless term if you're not adhering to their standard. You're woke, right?

[Jack Posobiec]

But what it is in, in, in direct fashion is what they're doing is creating a category, creating a label saying, we're separate from these guys. Therefore, you and a lot of these guys I remember, like, they were. One of the big pieces of this you saw was also when Tucker went to interview Putin and then he also interviewed Lavrov now, which, by the way, at great personal risk to himself, like, there were a number of security incidents that took place when he did this. And, you know, Ukraine's got assassination teams all over Russia, by the way. And of course, Tucker Carlson Wilson would be a main target and certainly was targeted. And so the idea that, you know, he was just doing it for like clicks or something. It's ridiculous. It's completely ridiculous. He's doing his job. But they were saying, oh, this guy is. This, look at him is woke, right? For just accepting what Putin says. And it's like, for interviewing him, like, it's, it's so ridiculous. And the, the, the real thing that I got is. And people are going after like Benny Johnson for platforming. Platforming. You can't, I'm sorry, how dare you.

[Tim Pool]

Talk to Andrew Tate.

[Jack Posobiec]

Those are, those are woke, Woke style attacks. Those are woke style arguments. You are acting like the woke light, by the way. And if you want to criticize something that someone said or something that someone did, then just do that. Then just do that. But be a man and actually have the ability to hold that debate and hold that criticism because that's the, that's the problem of what caused all of these. That's how you get to the LA wildfires burning down. And nobody can, nobody can actually find out whose job it was, was to keep water in the reservoir during fire season. Because, you know, you keep setting up all these little rules that everybody has to follow that are gate kept or. No, you're not allowed to think those thoughts. No, just go ahead. Just go ahead and have it all out and criticize people and argue and debate and guess what? The best ideas, the most pragmatic ideas, the most truthful ideas will eventually win. They really will. They absolutely will. But if you're going to sit there and start gatekeeping saying you can't have that idea or you can't write that book or how dare you use that title or how dare you look at that historical event and ask questions about it. It's ridiculous, it's insane and it's, it's a form of wokeness. I'm just going to call it out.

[Shane Cashman]

Becoming the enemy coming the enemy becoming the thing they hated.

[Tim Pool]

We are going to go to super chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button? Subscribe to this channel, share the show with everyone you know and become a [e-mail] to support our work directly. And you will get access to our Discord server where you can hang out with tons of people. People and call into the show. So if you ever wanted to talk to Jack Bosobic, you got to be a [e-mail] because he is, he is here and he's excited.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm really excited. I'm so excited right now.

[Tim Pool]

There we go. Let's get it all right, here we got Robert De La Cruz. He says I get to be first. Indeed you do, sir. Congratulations. Chrome Gear versus. As I live here in la, I want CA to turn red, but not like this. That's a good one.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yikes. Yikes.

[Tim Pool]

Surprisingly, this may turn it red.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, you know, we'll see.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

I wonder if the celebrities that are going after their politicians right now are going to stay that way, you know, if they're going to say we're going to start voting differently or if they're just going to get fixed.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I think you could have.

[Tim Pool]

For some people, I think you.

[Jack Posobiec]

You could have. By the way, why doesn't Elon Musk run for governor of California?

[Tim Pool]

He's in Texas now, isn't he?

[Jack Posobiec]

Very bad back. Whatever the residency requirements are, figure out a way to get it there. Run. Go. Go back and run. And he would win. He would easily independent. He would win.

[Shane Cashman]

I want him to run Mars on.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. I don't know if he, like. I don't think Elon's the kind of guy who wants to be in government. You get paid way less.

[Jack Posobiec]

He's in government already.

[Shane Cashman]

Seems like he likes.

[Tim Pool]

I know, but he's in a good. He's like. He's. He's outside the.

[Phil Labonte]

In.

[Tim Pool]

In orbit with that influence.

[Jack Posobiec]

Okay, then. Then he puts together a team. Team focus on California the way that he focused on America put together. Maybe it's. Maybe it's Shellenberger. Maybe it's Nicole Shanahan. Maybe Elder. What was the guy. Help him get Larry Elder, Rick Russo, whoever it is. Right. Put together that dream team again. But here's the thing. You have to actually stay in California. You can't just keep jumping Mel Gibson from place to placement. Yeah, Mel Gibson base. Mel.

[Tim Pool]

Mel. Mel's the best. I would love to get him on the show. The Patriot is the greatest movie ever made.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's right.

[Tim Pool]

And I. I would love to hang out with that.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's actually Braveheart, but same if it's good too.

[Tim Pool]

But he's got great movies.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, Apocalyptos.

[Tim Pool]

And he made the Passion, didn't he? Yep. He's made him beautiful.

[Jack Posobiec]

He's making the second one, the Resurrection of the Christ. Just incredible. You know, shout out to every Patriot is so. Everything that he said on Joe Rogan was 100 correct? Everything.

[Tim Pool]

All right, Tyler, Today News says. Hey, Tim, I always love watching the show. Could you shout out my channel? I just did an interview with a J6 or that was shot unjustly. By capitol police named Joshua Matthew Black. He'd be a good guest. Interesting. Tyler, Today news. Good luck, sir. Let's go. Salty bag of nut says ian informed my 7 year old daughter that Santa wasn't real last Thursday. We no longer like Ian.

[Jack Posobiec]

You can't trust Ian. What are you gonna trust? Trust Ian over Santa Claus.

[Tim Pool]

I know. Seriously.

[Jack Posobiec]

Santa deniers will be put into the crystals.

[Tim Pool]

Santa deniers.

[Jack Posobiec]

Santa deniers are in shambles. Because guess what, boys and girls, when we woke up on Christmas morning, guess what was under our tree? Presents from Santa. And is it right there?

[Tim Pool]

Tell me. Tell me this is if this is true or not. Jack, what's up? Adam says sup, Tim? I just learned over the weekend the Golden Globes mocked God. The next night Hollywood went in flames.

[Shane Cashman]

It's true. I saw that video.

[Tim Pool]

It's true. They.

[Shane Cashman]

She put up a. A graph of how many people who were. Who thanked who and God was like, had no thank yous.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean it wouldn't exactly be the first time that Hollywood mock God.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, that's all they do.

[Tim Pool]

But that, that's more overt. You know what I mean? It's. It's like. It's one thing to be passively disrespectful. It's another thing to just scream it out. The George Floyd mural that exploded. Dude, I don't. I. So here's my question for you, Jack. Are miracles things that when you look at it and you say that's an impossibility, it must be a miracle. Or are they things that seemingly are astronomically impossible, that happen? Like. Let me put it like this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Give me an example.

[Tim Pool]

It's a miracle like Butler, Pa. A sand. So Butler, Pennsylvania. Donald Trump tilting his head is a possible thing that can happen. The George Floyd mural exploding is a thing that could happen. But holy crap, the odds must be beyond astronomical.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

So my question is, is that what defines a miracle? Or are miracles things where it's like a sandwich appears out of thin air, Something absolutely impossible to happen happens?

[Jack Posobiec]

So yeah, I mean, yes, in general, the idea typically. So there's. There's the idea of the miraculous, like Donald Trump being saved. I believe he's a miracle. I think a lot of people believe he's a miracle.

[Tim Pool]

He turns his head just a millimeter.

[Jack Posobiec]

And that's why we put that picture on the COVID of him where it looks like he's in prayer for the book Bulletproof. Where if you'd like a link to send me an email. 1,776 human events com. Audiobook is now out. Huge debate over whether or not audiobooks are real books. It's raging. So check it out. The word brickers are in shambles, by the way, carrying around their word bricks. And I was of course, pointed out that oral tradition, tradition vastly predates books. And, and so, but typically when it comes to the canonization of a saint, what you're looking for is a healing. What you're looking for is some miraculous change. There's the miracle of the sun in, in Fatima. So this, the appearance of Fatima on October 13th in, in Fatima, Portugal, was the sun, actually, it's claimed, danced in the sky. So in that case, it wouldn't necessarily be something. So yes, there are, I guess it could be both. It could be both. So something that is, is possible, just astronomically unlikely, as well as something that is in fact impossible. Like for example, a man raising himself from the dead and walking around and being seen by thousands after he'd been murdered in public.

[Tim Pool]

I, I think that's, that one still falls under the astronomically unlikely but possible the, the resurrection.

[Jack Posobiec]

We still had to live in a tomb for three days.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Somehow what I'm saying is that like.

[Jack Posobiec]

If you're saying if he was injured.

[Tim Pool]

Not necessarily injured, but I just mean like what I would define as impossible is like a sandwich appearing out of thin air. You know what I mean? Like that's, it's, it defies logic. It doesn't exist.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's not a, you can't really be dead and come back to life. It's pretty impossible.

[Tim Pool]

I, I, I, I would say that a corporeal body dying and come back to life happens and over three days is astronomically impossible that no one would expect to ever happen. But that's why I would still describe that as a miracle. I, I don't think that defies the laws of logic in the universe is what I mean to say that that's kind of does. I, I disagree.

[Jack Posobiec]

What I mean, what other things can die and come back to life?

[Tim Pool]

Humans just die and come back to life all the time through medical technology.

[Shane Cashman]

But it's not just that he died and came back to life, but he was like, but my signature of the crucifixion.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, this wasn't just like brain death.

[Tim Pool]

But that's why I'm saying I view.

[Jack Posobiec]

That as a miracle and he got cpr.

[Tim Pool]

I'm, what I'm saying is the, the, the also there was within the, it was, I guess what I'm trying to say is it is within, within the Realm of physical existence. That. That a body comes back to life as opposed to like a tree turned into a fish. You know what I mean? Like something that makes no sense within existence.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't know if I agree, but I get what you're saying.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. The reason I ask is because I forgot we were talking about before. Oh yeah, the mocking God.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like a fire starting is right after they mock God is like extremely unlikely God's wrath. But fires happen and people mock God. The question is.

[Jack Posobiec]

And they happen in that area.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

And by the way, Devil's advocate. I mean tornado alley exists and that's not exactly a haven of God mockers in the Midwest.

[Tim Pool]

My, my view, just to simplify everything, is that God smites. I do believe it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, he does.

[Tim Pool]

The George Floyd mural exploding. Unless someone intentionally did that and tricked us. The presumption of the story as reported being true, that a brick wall, double layered brick with a George Floyd mirror wing, a crown exploded outwards. I mean, it's possible those.

[Jack Posobiec]

By the way, by the way, by the way, I'm just saying the same George Floyd who when he was brought to the hospital was still alive because Derek Chauvin didn't kill him.

[Tim Pool]

Derek Chauvin should be freed. And he did nothing wrong. They said that. Just to clarify, Derek Chauvin was abiding by the training given to him by the mpd. He arrived after Floyd was already taken out of the vehicle. He was unaware of the circumstances and was just doing as the department instructed. Now I don't believe just following orders is an excuse. But in this instance, we're not talking about a cop mercilessly beating a child. We're talking about a cop who shows up and sees a very large man resisting arrest.

[Jack Posobiec]

Did he commit murder?

[Tim Pool]

And what.

[Jack Posobiec]

But the question is, did he commit murder?

[Tim Pool]

No, he did not.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right? I'm not saying that. I'm not even making the argument that, that you know, he has to be a police officer after this. That's fine. You know, but the idea that. And by the way. So Katie Blackwell, who at the time was Inspector Katie Blackwell when she testified as the training unit officer and the great Liz, Liz Collin over at Alpha News put this out. She testified that she didn't recognize the restraint that Derek Chauvin used.

[Phil Labonte]

And then there was pictures of her.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then they found the pictures. So that's why for 2025 I have. I am no longer a conservative. I am now a Derek Chauvinist. And this, this, this was, it was a political sacrifice that was Made to the, the gods of the SJWs, the gods of communism, of this man who was taken. And to your point, he was following the training that was given by the officer who testified against him, who now has multiple dozens of officers coming out saying that she lied under oath to put him in jail.

[Shane Cashman]

Before we went live, you were talking about the Ten Commandments. They turned Floyd into a false idol.

[Tim Pool]

And then the bearing.

[Shane Cashman]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Exploded.

[Tim Pool]

Let me read this. Gandalf. The base says, Tim, with respect, but if you believe in the big bang and then Christ rising from the dead is child's play. I completely agree with that. And that's kind of my point that there are things that seemingly defy all astronomical odds and it is more believable to me, the resurrection of the Christ than some, a lot that people claim, claim. I guess. I, I, I, I agree with that, that assessment.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, the, the something to nothing argument is, is, is astounding that Mel Gibson got into a lot of this with Rogan, but there, there's so much more.

[Tim Pool]

Evolution stuff is fascinating.

[Jack Posobiec]

How does a, how does, how does non comporal matter form a single cell? Where does a single cell come.

[Tim Pool]

So I watched this, this documentary about the formation of life and the, the hard academic answer is we don't know. It doesn't mean we won't know. But they say at some point certain chemicals formed self replicating proteins. At some point those became cells. And it's like, okay, what's the mechanism for it? How and why? They don't know. But the fast. That is not to say that I disagree with evolution. Evolution. I certainly think evolution could be the mechanism by which God creates man. And it's like understanding the process by which God process by which God created man does not take away the fact that God created man.

[Jack Posobiec]

That being said, Pope John Paul II say that, by the way.

[Tim Pool]

He did say that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The issue with creationism is that many of these liberal secular individuals and atheists can understand the concept of simulism, the idea that, that the universe was created with a backstory. But then they don't understand what Christians are saying with creation.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's like, right, so like you'll believe in simulation theory and you're like, oh that's so cool. Yeah, the odds are totally, totally in favor of that. And, and then I'll, I'll come along and say, yeah, you know who else said that? St. Paul.

[Tim Pool]

No, you're wrong. It's a religion.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, that's religion. No, but, but he said the same thing. Like, like it's it's the idea that if you see a watch, the existence of the watch therefore pretends that there would be a watchmaker because it is so intricately designed.

[Tim Pool]

I would argue it to atheists who don't believe in creation. When you play Grand Theft Auto and you have a little guy running through the city, jumping on a motorcycle and driving around, you know, nobody built those skyscrapers. They were hard coded.

[Jack Posobiec]

They're simulated.

[Tim Pool]

But in the game, there's a story as to how the buildings were created and what the city is all about out. It's a story. It's all fake. There was a creator who made that. If you believe simulation theory is possible. If you believe, as Elon Musk and many of these people do, that given the fact that we create simulations, the odds are a advanced civilization would create a simulation like ours. Therefore, it is more likely we're in a simulation. You're literally just saying you believe in creation. You're just removing God from the picture, right? And putting some guy there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Have you heard the. By the way? The. I thought it was interesting because Rogan and Gibson got into this whole idea of, you know, the different, the different hominins that had existed in the past. And we've got, you know, certain bones here, certain bones there, and a lot of, a lot of evolutionists want to try to form this linear picture and say, well, this was the first one because this is the oldest one we found. So this one came first and this one led to this one, led to this one, led to this one. But have you heard the Middle Earth theory Theory?

[Tim Pool]

What's that?

[Shane Cashman]

What?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, the Middle Earth theory. So the Middle Earth theory, this is sort of a new way to look at all of these different things and all of these disparate pockets of different hominins, like the Denisovans that were found in Siberia, but they, and then the, or the neon people, know, the, the Neanderthals in Europe, but then even, even various archaic species and their DNA which have been found in Africa that they haven't even found the bones of yet. Well, so the idea is that what if instead of a linear pattern, the way that evolutionists are trying to say, what if all of these various groups of hominins existed all at the same time and then CRO Magnons also existed. And what, what ended up happening was instead of this linear progression, it was just this sort of Lord of the Rings, Middle Earth kind of world where all of these were existing in concert with one another. And then what instead happened was this various Hybridization and interbreeding of the species. And that's why you'll see that. So you know, Europeans and Asians have a certain like, like, you know, less, less than 2% of Neanderthal DNA, but sub Saharan Africans do not. And people say, well, oh, that's because, you know, they, they came out of Africa and it's like. Or perhaps not. Perhaps there were various separate Atlantis that all existed. This does get in. This does actually line up with the Atlantis theory very well. And so Robert separate talks about this and kind of gets into like the Graham Hancock stuff.

[Phil Labonte]

I heard someone, I don't remember where it was that I heard yesterday, but someone was talking about about like 15,000 years ago the, the sea level was 400ft below where it is today.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So parts of Egypt were. That are now underwater. And so some people believe that there was an island in the Atlantic where Atlantis may have been.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and so this, the, so this. Rogan and Gibson mentioned this like the first couple minutes where he says, he says when you go to the ancient Mayans and you ask them how did you learn how to do all these things? They don't tell you like, oh, we had some great teacher and these inventors, they figured it out. They say, no, they have these oral traditions, by the way. Oral traditions. Take that word brickers. Oral traditions that. No, there were, there were these tall men from over the sea with red beards who taught us how to build these structures and taught us how to.

[Tim Pool]

Farm green and blue skin, conduct agriculture.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, and, and then one day they went away and then we never saw them again until the arrival of like, you know, Cortez, obviously that was more further north. But, but you get, you get my point that they're saying that there was a race of people who could travel on the sea that taught us these things. Things.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we got, we got to read this one from Mikey Maui. He says, Tim, my sis in law, mother of five with a newborn, suffered a stroke and aneurysm one month. Medical coma and brain damage therapy is very expensive. Can we get a shout out to her? Gofundme. I realize you don't like Gofundme anyways. Her name is Morgan Hentaman. Jack, we are big Catholics. Can you please pray a rosary?

[Jack Posobiec]

We'll do that.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry to hear, brother. I, I hope it works out. Out. I wish you the best right here.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, right on.

[Tim Pool]

Do we still have the. I think the one we had over there fell off. We had it on the bocus board. Yeah, let's Go. Andrew says, I have a friend who wanted to be a fireman, but he couldn't pass the fireman's carry. He hit the gym for two years till he could. He's been a fireman paramedic for 15 years now. Wow. That's epic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Awesome.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Because sometimes people get caught in fires and it's not their fire fault.

[Jack Posobiec]

He should have just been a minority sexual whatever female could have put on blackface, identified, you know, black face, and then he been fine. You don't need to pass the fireman's carry to be a fireman anymore. There's so many easier ways to do it. By the way, we. We can't call it the fireman's carry anymore, can we? Fire persons carry. Yeah, Firefighters carry.

[Shane Cashman]

That's.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's one of those ones.

[Tim Pool]

We haven't.

[Jack Posobiec]

We haven't fire. Fire people's carry. Yeah, we haven't figured that one.

[Shane Cashman]

How have they not changed burning man yet?

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, my goodness.

[Shane Cashman]

Burning person.

[Jack Posobiec]

Burning. Burning. Burning persons. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane Cashman]

Burning them.

[Jack Posobiec]

Burning person.

[Shane Cashman]

Sounds like a threat.

[Tim Pool]

The truth a says, my friends in Cal fire and friends that work for Nevada Division of Forestry told me that aid from other states was stopped by fewer news scum and carb because the equipment was not carb compliant.

[Shane Cashman]

I heard that story.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, that's crazy. Pat Meadows as hemp Crete is basically fireproof. Start investing. What is that? Like, like concrete made from hemp? I don't know what that is.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't know. There. There have been a couple stories, though, that I've heard of people who live in the area. James Woods's house, by the way, apparently was not. Was not destroyed. And. And other folks.

[Phil Labonte]

Weird story.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, I guess there were a lot of constructor constructors. There were construction out there where they really took fire prevention into account when they built it, including some of like the. The walls or even vegetation that was around or like different types of bamboo that wouldn't. That wouldn't burn. And a lot of those houses is. Did pretty well.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Jack Posobiec]

Seems like.

[Tim Pool]

Let's go. Gino S says they literally call themselves crooked media. We are effing living in a simulation. Yeah, that. Isn't that weird?

[Jack Posobiec]

Look, it's what it comes down to.

[Shane Cashman]

Why that name.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's these luxury beliefs, man. It's just you have these luxury beliefs like, oh, diversity is so wonderful and equity and inclusion and everyone's going to be equal and kumbaya and we can all be the same. And it's like, like at some point the rubber has to meet the road, and the airplane has to stay in the sky, and the water has to be in the fire hydrant. The fire's coming and someone needs to stop that. And if you don't have that person, guess what? You know, those beliefs will not save you.

[Tim Pool]

You see that meme where he's like, call me oldfashioned, but back in my day, we put water in the fire hydrants. Yeah, that was a good one, by.

[Jack Posobiec]

The way, for all my Philly peeps out there. It is of course, properly pronounced water.

[Tim Pool]

Jake Fulkerson says hello. Tim, Fellow cancel Newsom Californian here. I grew up in the foothills of central California in. How do you pronounce that? To tulumni? To tolumne? I don't know. County over285,000 acres of our pristine forest was wiped out by the rim fire in 2013. Same ish, different stain. Brutal. Jason Hutchinson says solar arrays that can turn water into steam for generators exist. Is that not directed energy?

[Jack Posobiec]

But a mirror that you put against the sun is directed energy. Sure.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So you can take a couple mirrors and then focus light and it starts fires or a magnifying glass or a bottle of water. That's crazy. You ever someone take like a bag of water and they hold it in the sun to make a fire? That's crazy stuff. Science. It is fun. Devin Foster says, I don't know which congressman you have most access to, but can you please tell them to remove the gun free zones at our military bases? Our 2A rights do not end because of where someone works.

[Jack Posobiec]

That should that again. Pete Hegseth. Pete Hegseth. Get him in there, folks. Pete Hegseth needs to be confirmed. Tomorrow is his hearing. Send him your energy, send him your power. Send him your prayer cares and go. If you are. If you have a Republican senator, make sure your senator hears. Vote yes on Pete.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Jack, I'm just here a small town, humble podcaster, but what. What does Pete Hegseth do for me?

[Jack Posobiec]

Pete Hegseth will take away the gun free zones and he's gonna. He's going to name all the bases back to their original names.

[Phil Labonte]

Nobody calls brag Liberty. Yeah, every sports, everybody.

[Jack Posobiec]

Fort AP Hill.

[Tim Pool]

I don't even know what liberty is.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, even when the tax. I know and those guys were both from Fort Bragg at some point. No one. No one reported it on it as liberty.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, everyone kept saying Fort Bragg because we don't know what Fort Liberty is. No, no, it's. It was a.

[Tim Pool]

Nobody knows what Yakovic is.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's part of taking. And I love the fact, by the way, that it's, it's like these, There was a, there was another Wall Street Journal headline a couple of weeks ago that I've been, I've been laughing at because it's such a badge of honor. It's says, it says, president Trump keeps nominating angry war on terror veterans to, to his nomination. And it was like Tulsi JD Vance and, and Pete Hegseth. And I was like, that's just perfect.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

People who got sent to war for a lie. The people who have had their lives on the line, again, for a lie. People who are in combat, people who are shot at, people who are shelled over, all of this nonsense. You know what? I think those should be the people in charge of the government when it comes down to it.

[Tim Pool]

I love it. Especially the fact that they're on the younger side of things. Yeah. They are adults leaders. And I, I, it almost feels surreal that Trump has put together this coalition. I wish it was his first. Like, I wish he did this in his first term.

[Jack Posobiec]

But hey, it's not something he campaigned on either, by the way. It was not. I mean, he campaigned on gen in general, on chain. But by the way, this is the opposite of the Mark Zuckerberg thing. Right. So Mark Zuckerberg says, oh, I've changed, I've changed, I've changed. Look at me, I've got, you know, I've got a fro now. You know, you can trust me. I'm so sorry. Oh, I'm so sad. Joe Biden was mean to me on the phone. Oh, no. Like, really, dude? You know, you're, you're a billionaire. Like, just tell him no. And, and meanwhile, Trump is up there like, yeah, I'm going to nominate, like, all of the most based people possible for these positions. Cash Patel, who, by the way, has the resume up and down to be an FBI director. Russ Vogt over at omb, a guy who understands the budget in omb. And that, that's the actual money that.

[Phil Labonte]

Position right there doesn't get. It doesn't get nearly enough attention from the average person. The OMB can do serious, serious things about the, where the money goes and where what things are funded and what aren't.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, if you want Doge to actually have teeth, it runs through. Oh, omb.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's the dirty little secret.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Oren says, don't forget the time that comedian Heather McDonald mocked Jesus and immediately fainted on stage. Just ordered the 20th Amendment Board. Gonna make it part of my remote business meetings backdrop. Epic.

[Jack Posobiec]

So good.

[Tim Pool]

The 20th Amendment. I, I, the interpretation is that people have a right to secure and grow their own food, but chickens are also awesome. So, you know, but that is, I'm telling you, man, like, here's a question. Are there instances, you know, Bill Maher had this bit where he said, you know, he wants. Someone once prayed for rain. And then he reached outside his cup and it rained. And he says it's a miracle God exists. And Bill Maher says, I would respond with, sometimes it rains. And it's like in that story, I'm kind of like, yeah, I don't know. But there's something different about the mural of George Floyd exploding. You know, like that just defies logic, magic. I'm more inclined to believe that someone secretly showed up and blew it up than the story they've put out.

[Jack Posobiec]

Never caught the guy who did the Georgia Guards guidestones.

[Tim Pool]

But there's a video of it, isn't there?

[Jack Posobiec]

There's, there's a video of like the car sort of driving. There is, yeah, but it's weird, but you can't really, you can't see much.

[Shane Cashman]

Yeah, that was great.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know, man.

[Jack Posobiec]

So terrible.

[Shane Cashman]

So that happened the same.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, like, people have told me that because, because I don't, I don't follow organized religion. I do believe in God. And so people say, oh, you must be a deist. And then at first I was like, oh, okay, sure. I guess then I looked into it. Deists don't, Deists believe that God does not take, does not intervene in any way or interact with existence. And I'm like, well, that's ridiculous. Like, I certainly think God does.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's like the, the absent God theory. So God creates a world and then just walks away.

[Tim Pool]

Which makes no sense to me. And why?

[Jack Posobiec]

For what purpose?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then if purpose exists and is a component of this universe, like I, I, I look at the, the, the, the scaling of how, you know, math and science and everything, we, we can see the scaling of organization and purpose, consciousness. And these things exist, which means they exist in the greater essence, which means there's greater purpose, there's greater existence. And that's likely and logical.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know what a good one for that is also is DNA. Why does DNA have a code? Why kill us? Why? Right. Why is there a computer code inside of living things? Like, where have you ever seen a random code just generate in the universe by itself?

[Tim Pool]

Well, as far as we know, it's life. But my friends, we're gonna go to the members only show. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know. We got a fun story for you, not so family friendly. It's about a woman who engaged in relations with 1,000 men in 12 hours. And we're gonna say not nice things about her. So not for the kids. Go to timcast.com click join us, become a member and support our work. Join the discord. Call in, talk to us on the show. You can follow me on Exit Instagram at Timcast. Jack, do you want to shout anything out? Yes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Do you believe that an audiobook counts as reading a book? Yes or no? Send us your comments, your questions, your opinions, or just on audiobooks or reading in general. 1776@Human Events.com 1776@Human Events.com Sweet.

[Shane Cashman]

I'm Shane Cashman. I love audiobooks and you can find me every Sunday at INVERTER World live. 6 o'clock clock. See you there, Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. I'm Phil that remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. January 31st, our new record drops. It is called Antifragile. You can go to YouTube and check out, well, YouTube and Spotify. And check out four singles, Forever Cold, let you go, no Tomorrow and divine. It's YouTube, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer. And don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you all [e-mail] in about a minute. Thanks for hanging out.