LA Wildfires WIPE OUT Entire Towns, Trump WARNED Us On Rogan MONTHS AGO w/Nick Shirley

Summary

Timcast IRL: LA Wildfires WIPE OUT Entire Towns, Trump WARNED Us On Rogan MONTHS AGO w/Nick Shirley
Release Date: January 9, 2025

Timcast IRL, hosted by Tim Pool, delves into the escalating wildfires in Los Angeles, scrutinizing the political and policy failures contributing to the disaster. Featuring guest Nick Shirley, an independent YouTube journalist, the episode offers a comprehensive analysis of the situation, highlighting warnings from former President Donald Trump and the subsequent mismanagement by California's Democratic leadership.

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1. Escalation of LA Wildfires

Tim Pool [00:00 – 02:15]:
Tim opens the discussion by highlighting the worsening wildfires in Los Angeles, showcasing viral images of neighborhoods like the Pacific Palisades being completely destroyed. He references emotional footage of actor James Woods reacting to the devastation affecting elderly neighbors and the community at large.

Notable Quote:
"The death toll is now up to five, but people expect it. Officials expect it to get worse." ([00:54])

2. Political Mismanagement and Trump's Warnings

Tim Pool [02:15 – 05:07]:
Transitioning from initial observations, Tim critiques the political handling of the crisis. He revisits a past appearance by Donald Trump on the Joe Rogan podcast, where Trump warned about water shortages in Southern California due to environmental policies aimed at protecting the Delta smelt—a small fish species.

Notable Quote:
"They’re not getting the water down. And now fire hydrants are empty. Firefighters are overwhelmed." ([03:10])

3. Insurance Companies Withdraw from High-Risk Areas

Tim Pool [04:08 – 05:07]:
Tim discusses the role of insurance companies, noting that major insurers like State Farm had canceled hundreds of homeowners' policies in high-risk areas months before the wildfires intensified. He suggests that both the companies and government officials were aware of the impending dangers but failed to act adequately.

Notable Quote:
"Insurance companies knew, and if they knew, the government knew. And so here we are dealing with the failures of policy." ([04:50])

4. In-Depth Analysis with Nick Shirley

Nick Shirley [04:08 – 26:48]:
Nick Shirley joins the conversation, introducing himself as an independent journalist who covers global issues, including migrant gangs and unrest in various regions. Together, Tim and Nick dissect the multifaceted causes of the wildfires, emphasizing the lack of forest floor management, inadequate water supply, and the impact of policies prioritizing environmental concerns over public safety.

Notable Quotes:
"California is tiny, but Los Angeles county is massive." ([07:14])
"California's got to be cursed or something." ([23:58])

5. Mismanagement of Water Resources

Discussion [11:15 – 22:25]:
The conversation delves deeper into the mismanagement of California's water resources. Tim criticizes Governor Gavin Newsom for prioritizing the protection of the Delta smelt over securing water for firefighting and urban needs. He argues that such decisions have left critical infrastructure like fire hydrants dry and unprepared to handle the wildfires' intensity.

Notable Quote:
"They wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt by giving it less water. It didn’t work, but they didn’t care about the people of California." ([17:04])

6. Climate Change vs. Policy Failures

Discussion [16:25 – 26:48]:
Tim challenges the prevailing narrative that climate change is the primary culprit behind the wildfires. He asserts that policy failures, such as neglecting brush management and cutting firefighting budgets, are the real reasons for the disaster's severity. The guests debate the efficacy of climate change initiatives versus practical measures to prevent such calamities.

Notable Quote:
"All of these liberals are saying climate change is the problem, but their policies literally make it impossible to stop." ([16:36])

7. Technological Solutions and Future Implications

Discussion [28:00 – 85:08]:
While the primary focus remains on the wildfires, the episode briefly touches upon technological advancements, including robotics and AI. The guests discuss the potential of drones and automated systems in firefighting but express skepticism about their immediate effectiveness given the current fire conditions.

Notable Quote:
"The oldest functioning infrastructure machine in the United States is the power grid." ([31:30])

8. Ongoing Wildfire Developments and Immediate Responses

Live Updates [85:00 – 122:03]:
As wildfires continue to spread, the hosts provide real-time updates on new firebreaks, evacuation orders, and the overwhelmed firefighting resources in Southern California. They express concern over the rapid spread due to high winds and the challenges in containing the fires without adequate water and manpower.

Notable Quote:
"These fires are out of hand. You’ve got 90-mile-an-hour winds ripping through, making it impossible to control." ([86:22])

9. Conclusions and Call to Action

Final Remarks [122:03 – End]:
Tim Pool concludes the episode by reiterating the urgent need for policy reforms in California to prevent future wildfires. He encourages listeners to become members of Timcast for more in-depth analyses and actionable insights, emphasizing the importance of holding responsible parties accountable for the ongoing disaster.

Notable Quote:
"We are going to produce a video every single day of the week, deep diving into all these issues. So don't forget to smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel." ([104:51])

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Key Takeaways:

• Policy Failures: The wildfires in LA are primarily attributed to mismanaged water resources and inadequate forest floor management rather than solely climate change.

• Political Accountability: Former President Trump's early warnings on water shortages were dismissed, leading to a lack of preparedness in firefighting efforts.

• Insurance Withdrawal: Major insurers withdrew from high-risk areas, exacerbating the community's vulnerability to wildfire damages.

• Climate Change Debate: The episode challenges the narrative that climate change policies alone are responsible, highlighting the need for practical measures in governance.

• Technological Skepticism: While technological solutions like drones have potential, current wildfire conditions limit their effectiveness.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Pool: "They’re not getting the water down. And now fire hydrants are empty. Firefighters are overwhelmed." ([03:10])

• Nick Shirley: "California is tiny, but Los Angeles county is massive." ([07:14])

• Tim Pool: "All of these liberals are saying climate change is the problem, but their policies literally make it impossible to stop." ([16:36])

• Phil Labonte: "The oldest functioning infrastructure machine in the United States is the power grid." ([31:30])

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This episode of Timcast IRL underscores the critical intersection of environmental policy, political accountability, and community resilience in the face of natural disasters. By highlighting the warnings that went unheeded and the systemic failures that followed, Tim Pool and his guests call for immediate and informed action to prevent future catastrophes.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

The wildfires in Los Angeles are getting worse. There's a photo that's going viral that just shows the Pacific Palisades are gone. If you don't know, this is a neighborhood in the Los Angeles area and it's just been completely wiped out. This is these really sad video of James woods breaking down in tears because of the elderly neighbors that he has the rest of their lives and the. And just everyone's lives being destroyed. So, man, it's getting brutal out there. I hope everybody gets out. The death toll is now up to five, but people expect it. Officials expect it to get worse. There's actually several fires in the area right now. And the political angle here, the story is that. Let. Let's just not mince words. Several months ago, Donald Trump appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast and warned they don't have water in Southern California because of this environmental animal policy on the Delta smelt. A lot of people have been talking about it, and not to mention the issue of homeless individuals setting fires. So this has been epic mismanagement from day one. And I think it's important to point out this viral clip from Trump where he says exactly this. They're not getting the water down. And now fire hydrants are empty. Firefighters are overwhelmed. They don't have the resources to fight this fire. And I don't know what the current percentage is at, but not even that long ago, the fires in California were at 0% contained, burning for over 24 hours, spreading rapidly. It's horrifying stuff, man. We're gonna break down a bunch of these stories because it's, it's a. It's a massive. You know, you have the individual story of the fires, but then each smaller story within it, such as there's a video of power lines sparking and shooting just. Just bursting next to trees, nobody doing anything about it. You've got the story of, as I mentioned, the homeless people, the failures of water, all of these things lining up. And then it gets weird. Insurance companies dropped tons of these homes, specifically covering fire insurance, between a few months and a few weeks ago. The insurance companies knew, and if they knew, the government knew. And so here we are dealing with the failures of policy. And, and we'll get into all that before we get started. My friends. Head over to cast brew.com and pick up some Cast Brew coffee. Although it is no longer Christmas, two weeks till Christmas is still available. Though it's two weeks from Christmas, you can still get a bag of gingerbread coffee with a picture of Phil Labonte. Dressed like Santa Claus.

[Phil Labonte]

All right, there you go.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ian Crossland]

Ian will, you are right.

[Tim Pool]

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[Nick Shirley]

Thank you for having me on. I'm excited.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Nick Shirley]

I'm an independent YouTube journalist. Go all across the world, whether it be the jails in El Salvador or the streets in New York City talking to migrant gangs.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Nick Shirley]

Talking to everybody.

[Tim Pool]

I've seen some of your clips where you're like asking people. It's like, it's like a very dry, okay, what do you think about this? And then you see people sometimes freak out.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah. Just ask people stuff and let them explain.

[Tim Pool]

They.

[Nick Shirley]

They make themselves look really good or make themselves look really bad.

[Tim Pool]

Isn't it crazy that you can just do journalism? Like you can just show up and ask people the questions.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah. I mean, there's an art to it. Like you have to write. Like there's a. There's some ways you got to do it. But yeah, it's pretty amazing. I love just going to talk with people.

[Tim Pool]

Right on, man. It's going to be, it's going to be fun. Thanks for joining us. We got Ian hanging out.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's good to be back, man. Thanks for having me, everybody. And also shout everybody that picked up a bag of graphene dream. That's super cool. Keep it up. That low acidity coffee is another. It's another beast. Once you have it, you realize, oh, I can handle another cup of that a lot easier. And also I want to thank Michaela Peterson. She sent us with her company Fuller Health Co. This, this product called afterparty.

[Tim Pool]

What is it?

[Ian Crossland]

It's dihydro myricetin. It's an herb or it's a chemical derived from Japanese raisins and that they've used for years, you know, centuries, millennia as like an herbal supplement for like a hangover cure. I think a lot of people use it for that.

[Tim Pool]

So I have, I have, I have hangover cure. Tell me not drink.

[Ian Crossland]

Not drinking at all is the best cure. Yeah, you go mess up. It's the best solution.

[Tim Pool]

Drinking is a young man's game. I'm almost 40. I'm not going anywhere near.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't really drink either. But regardless, Michaela, thank you so much for sending this to us. Michaela Peterson. It's Fuller Health. That's F U L L E R Health Co. Thanks again.

[Tim Pool]

They should thank you for that.

[Ian Crossland]

You will get forward.

[Phil Labonte]

What's up, everybody? My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer the Heavy metal and all that remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Tim, let's go.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. It's the first we'll start with some updates here. We have this from Forbes. California Wildfire Live updates. Officials say five dead as fires expand. We have this map here from fire.airnow.gov Take a look at these fires that we have in the LA area. So you've got, this is the Hearst fire up north. It's, it's, it looks small relative to the others, but it is still very massive. And you can see it is dipping down into residential areas. So hopefully people are taking that seriously. Over here you have the Eaton fire. There's actually now, I think maybe even seven different fires in the area, although these are the major ones. You can see this, this is the Eaton fire and it is spreading Crazy Altadena. Look at this. All of this residential area stuff just being wiped out. This is, this is crazy, man. And then of course we have Pasadena, which is the, the bulk of this. This is the Pacific Coast Highway. Absolutely not. Stretching into Malibu. This is, this is crazy. I mean, and let me see, I got this photo here. Take a look at this. People are just saying the Palisades are gone. The houses are just gone. This is absolutely insane. And the worst thing about it, it is. And it was preventable. Now we're hearing that they've been evacuating more of Santa Monica. And you've got people down in Marina Del Rey, which is just south of Santa Monica, getting very worried because with 90 mile an hour winds blowing in, this fire may be unstoppable until it just burns itself out. Whatever, whatever that means.

[Ian Crossland]

This goes to Santa Monica. I mean, it's in Santa Monica.

[Tim Pool]

It is already in Santa Monica.

[Ian Crossland]

It's like the economic, it's not the epicenter, but it's like part two in Los Angeles. Like Santa Monica is like the entertainment number two capital in the world next to Hollywood. So that is like, I mean, and you could say the Valley, but the Valley is huge. Santa Monica is a tiny little focused area of auditions and studios.

[Phil Labonte]

All the entertainment that comes out of the Valley. Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

Damn, dude. A lot of, a lot of.

[Tim Pool]

But this is what people need to understand. You know, I know a lot of people who live in la. You totally get this. People have been there. You get this. Los Angeles is tiny, but Los Angeles county is massive. And so when people talk about going to Hollywood or la, a lot of these celebrities, and they live in Santa Monica, they live in the Palisades. Some of course live in the Hollywood Hills, which is, you know, more up here or whatever, you've got West Hollywood, Beverly Hills, but the Palisades this is why James woods is living up there. It is common for actors and celebrities in Hollywood to be living in the Palisades. The fact that it's gone is just absolutely insane.

[Ian Crossland]

You ever drive that? The Pacific Coast Highway?

[Tim Pool]

Of course, dude. I used to go, like, every weekend we go to Malibu.

[Ian Crossland]

That drive through the Palisades up into Malibu is. Is iconic. And now, I mean, obviously you can rebuild it. But all those houses on the left. Because what happens is the road goes right up the beach. It's like basically right up the ocean the entire way.

[Tim Pool]

And then on the fires on the water.

[Ian Crossland]

If you're going north, if you're going west to the. To your left is all these, like, houses. They have beachfront property. I bet they are.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, look, you can see them right here. All these houses.

[Ian Crossland]

They're beautiful architecture.

[Tim Pool]

And they're on fire. Some of them are on fire. According to the.

[Nick Shirley]

A lot of them are gone.

[Tim Pool]

Left, right.

[Nick Shirley]

There's nothing left over there.

[Tim Pool]

And, well, this is. This is PCH going into Malibu. It's not the same as Palisades, but a lot of them are burning. And you can see this. It's.

[Nick Shirley]

They haven't contained hardly any of it either.

[Tim Pool]

Like, Yeah, I don't know.

[Nick Shirley]

I saw some. Some statistics are saying.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think the last I saw in fox News at 0% a couple hours ago. And like, that's insane.

[Nick Shirley]

Like, how.

[Tim Pool]

Well, someone. Someone tweeted that the humidity was at 0.78.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's crazy, dude. With. I mean, it's super dry. There's tons of fuel on the ground, and. And there's the Santa Ana winds. Like, I was talking to a firefighter friend of mine that used to do the. He would jump out of planes and into the. Into fires and stuff to fight fires. And he's like, look, man, you know, even God isn't going to put this fire out right now, you know, and. And rains. If they had water and normal things, they have to fight fires. But because of mismanagement by the mayor and, well, by the state, they don't even have water.

[Tim Pool]

This has been going on for a long time, man. Cause I was down in California 10 years ago, 10 years ago when they were dealing with the drought, and the only thing I heard was mismanagement. California's a desert. These kind of things are going to happen, and they have to plan for it, and they don't. And this is what you end up with. And now it's crazy, but I think that the truth here is these wildfires Happen every year in California. We see it's wildfire season. They've mismanaged the forest floor once again. The brush fires, they've mismanagement once again. The only issue now is that it's hit a major urban center with tons of people who live there and these videos of people being trapped in their homes. You know, I. Someone asked me, like, how do you get trapped in a fire? And I'm like, dude, the fire is traveling 90 miles an hour. People. You need to understand, with the winds blowing at that speed, you're sitting in your home, everything looks normal. Then all of a sudden, you look outside and you see fire sweeping across the trees. And then you go, whoa, I don't know what I'm supposed to do right now. And so maybe you call 91 1, say, hey, we're seeing fire super crosses. Get out now. You open your door, and there's an inferno in every direction. Some people end up getting trapped because of this.

[Ian Crossland]

So quiet.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, dude. There's a video of these guys running out their front door. And the trees, the regular trees, are burning embers just like this tree was alive. And now it's so hot and the fire is so intense. Your front. The tree in front of your house is just literally a glowing ember.

[Ian Crossland]

You said that it was preventable now. And I think that that's. So what I've heard is that PG and E, which is, I think, Pacific Gas and Electric. I don't know what the P stands for. Gas and Electric, probably they are in charge of running the power lines and they tend to run them through highly wooded areas and don't clear out the brush. And because of that, the brush then can catch fire if, like, a power line goes down or if there's a spark. And that is reliant on. I don't know if PG and E is a government company but it's supposed to be PGE's responsibility or it's. The government is just allowed because it's like, hey, we need power. You're gonna. We're not gonna make you run a line all the way around the park. So, yeah, you can run it through the trees at what risk? And then now you're saying that also the diversion of the water which has been going on since at least the early 1900s, they can't fight it.

[Phil Labonte]

The diversion of the water doesn't really have a lot to do with why it may have started, whether it be PG and E, a PG and E line that that broke.

[Tim Pool]

And is that what they think caused it.

[Phil Labonte]

I, I don't know. I'm only referring, I'm only addressing what he had mentioned, which it's possible, completely, totally possible. I've heard stories that PGE doesn't decided to not fit, not clean out the areas beneath the wires because it was not cost effective or whatever. That, that it would be less to. I don't know if they were talking about pay, pay lawsuits or whatever, but they, I've heard that they, it was PG's fault. But at the end of the day, the state doesn't allow people to clean up or doesn't do anything to clean up the, the, the downfall and branches and brush. So at the end of the day it does boil down to it's the state's fault because they're the ones that are supposed to be able to prevent this stuff.

[Tim Pool]

California is an example of extraction. This is what happens when a beautiful state with some of the best weather and it's large, it's massive. You go up north, you got mountains, you've got skiing and snowboarding, you go south, you got beaches. This is what happens when over a long enough period of time, good men do nothing. The government eventually gets taken over by people whose only intention is short term extraction. When I was living in Los Angeles, everybody said nimby, not in my backyard. So they have this, they have what is described as the, the. It is the worst homeless crisis for the developed world in Los Angeles. And you'd ask everybody, why can't one of the wealthiest cities, counties in the country do anything about it, even though they spend a billion dollars every year? And it's because the billion dollars goes to what they call the homeless industrial complex where companies, nonprofits and manufacturers take the money for themselves, don't solve the problem. And then when it comes to actual either institutionalization or affordable housing, every single well to do liberal type in LA goes, not in my backyard. So it never ends up getting done over a long enough period of time. As politicians simply extract, they tell you what you want to hear, they pass policies that increase their personal benefit, you get this. It is horrifying mismanagement. And you know, the funny thing is when you zoom out to the macro and you look at red states and red cities, you don't see it. We covered this a few years ago. You had per capita crime, all blue cities. And then when you, well how come, how come all of the highest crime cities are Democrat run? And they try and argue, well, it's because they're bigger. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That doesn't mean anything. The question is, why are bigger cities more likely to be Democrat and why are they full of crime? And if you want to argue because they're big, they're full of crime, we're talking per capita. So you take a look at West Virginia, lower crime, dark, deep red, regular working class people. Crime is low, lower on average. So I gotta tell you what I see with the Democratic Party, not completely, but leaning towards. You look at the state of California. You don't need me to give you an examples. How is it possible that they don't manage their forest floors, that their fire hydrants ran out of water, the reservoirs weren't refilled, and the mayor is in Africa.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah. That is crazy. She's not even there when it's all going on.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I guess she's Africa.

[Nick Shirley]

Like what's she doing in Africa?

[Tim Pool]

I guess she's flying back. So.

[Nick Shirley]

And aren't they understaffed on their. Like the firefighters as well because they.

[Tim Pool]

Were too concerned about hiring too many white firefighters. Two years ago they reported there were too many white firefighters. You saw that story?

[Phil Labonte]

I didn't realize. No, I didn't see that. I didn't realize there was a dei.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

Angle on it. But God damn.

[Tim Pool]

Now a lot of people on the left, they're saying, you can't blame the mayor for being in Africa. No. There was a warning that went out a week ago saying fires were likely and the mayor was like, I'm out. So I just, I got to tell you guys, I don't think Republicans are perfect. I'm not making a comment on the Republican Party as a whole. There's a lot of neocon scumbags that don't care about you. No one's going to sit here and praise Lindsey Graham, but the Democratic Party is largely a component of short term gains, long term losses. Yeah, we're looking at it right now. And people are losing their homes, their lives and I can't believe this map, dude.

[Phil Labonte]

So there, there are people talking about the fact that there were a lot of people that didn't have insurance, because I guess there's insurance.

[Tim Pool]

Like they cut them all off.

[Phil Labonte]

Companies, they cut them all off. And there are people are making connections to the, to the, the insurance CEO that was killed recently in New York.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I want to jump to the, the environment thing too, but I'll just say this before we jump to the next story. All of these liberals are saying, see, it's climate change. That proves it.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm like, dude, you've got a guy driving your bus and we're all sitting on it, and he's gone off the edge of a cliff and he's just bouncing down the hill. And you're like, bro, you drove us off the cliff and you've got to start veering to the left to try and get back on some kind of road. And he goes, no, the actual problem is that the environment is bad, so we're gonna keep going the same direction. They keep saying climate change is causing this, as their policies literally make it impossible to stop.

[Nick Shirley]

They're the most pro climate change people as well. And I know.

[Tim Pool]

So it's. When they say climate change is the problem, look at the fires. I'm like, bro, it's California. Where have they implemented climate change policies more than where you live? And you. And. And is it is you are the cause of all of this?

[Phil Labonte]

And the thing about climate change or the climate change change angle is even if. Even if there were to be all the changes that people on the left want in the us, like, that doesn't change what China and India are going to do. And those two countries both have 1.5 billion people. So the argument that, oh, we need to do all these things here in the US and we to make all these changes to our infrastructure and stuff, because we need to be able to fix climate change, it's not going to fix a thing, not one thing.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail. Trump blames Gavin News scum for raging California wildfires. The ultimate price is being paid. I mean, this is sad, man, but it is true. Newsom comes in for his photo op. But here's the issue. Gavin Newsom had an opportunity to address this. Year after year after year, warning after warning after warning, and he didn't do it. So check this out. Quote, he wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt by giving it less water. It didn't work, but didn't care about the people of California. Now the ultimate price is being paid. I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to flow into California. He is the blame for this. On top of it all, no water for fire hydrants, not firefighting planes. A true disaster. As of this moment, Gavin Newscom and his LA crew have contained exactly zero percent of the fire. It is burning at levels that even surpassed last night. This is not government. I can't wait until July 20th. Trump wrote, no water in the fire hydrants, no money in fema. This is what Joe Biden is leaving me. Thanks, Joe. Well, check this out. Here's a clip from Colin Rugg. He says Trump was mocked for sounding the alarm on the California water fire crisis during his interview on Joe Rogan. Turns out he was right. Trump spent nearly seven minutes ranting about the issue, blasting Newsom for doing nothing. Take a look at this clip. We'll just play. We'll play a little bit of it.

[Chris Christie]

But let me give you one that you may not know, okay? Which I think you know everything, actually, as a student of yours. But. But water, you know, in Los Angeles, you can't get proper amounts of water, right? And it's unbelievably expensive, and you might have a house in Beverly Hills. And they're actually thinking about rationing water. Can you believe it?

[Phil Labonte]

I can believe it.

[Chris Christie]

I was in the farm court country with some of the congressmen. We're driving up a highway and I say, how come all this land is so barren? It's farmland and it looked terrible. It was just brown and bad. I said, but there's always that little corner that's so green and beautiful. They said, we have no water. I said, do you have a drought? No, we don't have a drought. I said, why didn't you have no water? Because the water isn't allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from Canada all the way up north. More water than they could ever use. And in order to protect a tiny little fish, the water up north gets routed into the Pacific Ocean. Millions and millions of gallons of water gets poured into. You get to see this. We're driving up, and I had never seen it before. It's the most. It's like Iowa. It's the most fertile land. Iowa is blessed with great land. Idaho for a potato. Right? But these, they're just. By the way, you know, some land is good for a potato, some land is good for corn. It's the craziest thing. I love the farmers. They're the greatest. And by the way, they're getting killed right now.

[Ian Crossland]

They are.

[Chris Christie]

They're getting killed because of this stupid administration. But so I see this and Obama, I said, you got to be kidding. I said, you mean you have water? And I looked at it. It's like a valve in your sink, except it's massive. The thing's five times taller than your ceiling.

[Ian Crossland]

Did you know the center of California was a giant lake?

[Tim Pool]

That's true, too. But instead of going off on that tangent, let me show you this. When we zoom out. He's talking about the, the delta area. It's in the bay. And so you come up here and there's. So the issue is basically this. All of this water right here is pushing into the Pacific. So you can see fresh water up here and you've got brackish water here in the bay and then you've got ocean water. So for those that aren't familiar, I assume most of you are. But brackish is kind of the mix between fresh and salt water. So what ends up happening is they can have all of this beautiful, beautiful water that flows from up north, come down south and alleviate a lot of these problems, which can be used for firefighting, but you don't really need to rely on fresh water for firefighting, but would give you large reservoirs which can be used, of course, and it would make sure it would deal with the poorer communities in, in the east if they could get this water down here. The issue is that if they stop the flow of water into the delta, then the pressure stops and ocean water pushes in, turning the delta brackish and killing off all the farms. It's not just about the fish. The excuse used, of course, is that it would kill off all the delta smelt. That is largely the reason because they could still create a dam or some kind of system that would prevent the ocean water from coming in and wiping out the delta. They don't do it. And it's, I think it's not just the fish. That's the point I'm trying to make, is that the state doesn't have willpower. Long term investment is not within the minds of your average Democrat governor or state.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't aware of the, of the, the fact that without the flow from outside, that it was going to, that the brackish water would move further inland. But still, I mean, they, if they're siphoning the water off so that way it helps farmers. That's pro that to me. Seems like it would probably be some kind of lobbying issue. You know, it is. The lobbyists are doing it and that that means that the people that have lost their homes, those people are wealthy people and they have, you know, they have means and it should inspire them to tell the politicians, look, I'm not donating to your candidate, to your campaign now because you allowed my house to be burned down.

[Nick Shirley]

It's going to be very interesting to see how the people in these areas react because when we had the hurricane in North Carolina, the communities all rallied together. But in California, I lived there once and it felt like everybody's you versus me. So it's like. And you don't even know who is living next to you.

[Phil Labonte]

Nobody's from California.

[Nick Shirley]

And so it's going to be interesting to see, like, do these people hurry and get together and they do whatever they can and get these, like, donations running or whatnot, or is it going to be every person for themselves?

[Tim Pool]

I think it's. I, I think it's not. I, I don't want to be so callous because.

[Nick Shirley]

Or they just going to move out and just abandon whatever they had left.

[Tim Pool]

Or move out like Maui, you know, what, what do we see? Like, these big celebrities who had land, they were just like, I'm out because they're rich, right? When you look to the, the areas that are being affected in la where there's poorer people, because PAL is not all rich people. Of course there's some, you know, it's expensive. These people can't do anything. The rich people are going to be, you know, I look at them and I feel for them because your home is your home. Doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, your home is your home. Losing your home is devastating. But they are still going to survive this. And so I don't want to be so callous because James Wood was saying that, you know, it really warmed his heart to see that it wasn't political, that it's Democrat, Republican, none of it mattered. They were neighbors helping each other survive this disaster. And that's what I'm hoping we get out of it. However, as to what Phil was saying with, like, donations, these people, I don't see them, like Mark Hamill, for instance. I think he, his, his home may have been affected by this, but these are the kind of people that don't read into it, right? This is what Jimmy Dore made a really great point on, on, you know, trusting your doctor. He has that bit. It's epic. And you should, you should hear it where he's like, you know, they kept saying during COVID don't look into it. And he's like, that's insane. Imagine doing that with literally anything else. Like, I'm gonna go buy a car. Don't look into it. How am I supposed to know which cars, right When. Trust the salesman, he's the expert. It's brilliant. But this is how Democrats largely operate. And again, I'm not trying to roast literally every single Democrat, but this is what's gonna happen. They're gonna Come out and they're gonna say this is climate change's fault and Trump wants to drill for oil and it's gonna make this worse. And you're like, my dude, you had no water and you didn't manage the floor of the ground in the hills. You didn't do floor management for the wildlands. And they're going to go, climate change. You're going to say PG&E has, has power cables running through areas with high risks of fire. And they're going to go, climate change. And we're going to, we're going to, okay, California, do your thing, I guess. But they're going to blame Trump for it. They're going to keep pushing nonsense ideas. And, and like, like I was saying. You were saying, Phil, about donations.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

They're still going to donate. There's two ways I see this. Them saying, don't know, don't care, I got hurt and it's your fault. Or they're gonna say, this proves it. Climate change is the problem. Please stop Donald Trump, the man who warned us about our lack of water in this area three months ago.

[Nick Shirley]

Insanity a little twisted to make somehow be Trump's problem, whatnot. But Gavin Newsom has literally been in there for the past few years, and every single time he has the opportunity to help out the people, whether it be the fentanyl crisis, to stop giving the people needles and stop giving him $600 a month, to be able to keep buying drugs while they live on the street, or the migrants coming through the border, every single time he's had a chance to do something, he has gone against the majority of the people that would benefit.

[Tim Pool]

So is it so hard to believe that these Democrats are intentionally trying to destroy the country? I mean, that even defies short term gain. You can make the argument that he's like, we are going to give needles. And what do they have, those glass pipe kits they give out to homeless people to do crack? We're gonna do that because it's, it's politically expedient. I get through it. I say we solved the problem. Thank you and have a nice day. Now I'm going to think about it, but I'm kind of like, I don't know, man. The short, that's not a short term gain. You're literally setting a political fire.

[Phil Labonte]

The politics of nice have been a massive problem for the United States. And that's why Donald Trump, I think, was successful in his first term or was as successful as he was. Whatever amount of success you believe he had, which Generally around this table, we have a fairly positive view of what he did. And that's because he did, didn't ascribe to the politics of nice. He wasn't worried about if it sounded nice. And there are so many people, particularly in California, that all of their politics is, I just want to be nice and I want to, I want to do, I want to do the nice thing. I want to be the good person. So we should give that, that drug addict, the drugs that he needs to prevent withdrawal. And we should give, allow those homeless people to stay homeless and shoot up drugs. And we should, we should let people that are repeat offenders out of jail because there might have been some of, some kind of problem that, that, that was business as usual, usual in California for, for ages and ages. And there are real world, tangible consequences to the politics of Nice. And now, thankfully for California, there are people that have voted significantly against the politics of Nice.

[Tim Pool]

Remember when we were this close to getting governor LARRY ELDER.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

This wouldn't have happened.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Would not have happened. And they, they teamed up to shut him down. LARRY ELDER I don't know how they're.

[Ian Crossland]

Gonna solve for this, this wildfire thing, because if, I mean, maybe you could use ocean water and drones. We talked about that before the show.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it was not drones. You could use, you could use planes.

[Ian Crossland]

Gigantic.

[Tim Pool]

No, no.

[Ian Crossland]

Just constantly.

[Tim Pool]

Scoop, here's the issue. The winds are at 100 miles an hour.

[Ian Crossland]

So getting any flight is like a challenge.

[Tim Pool]

It's extreme challenge. It's very difficult for these smaller aircraft to fly here. So this is what they were reporting. They had a first responder on Fox News in the morning saying helicopters can't fly, not in these winds. And fixed wing aircraft have a higher threshold, but it's still too intense. They have been sending in flights now and there's some really great videos of them just dumping water on the fire.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm glad to see other solutions. Could be like putting the power lines underground. Because I always look at these power lines thinking of as massive vulnerabilities. Anybody can blow them up, anybody can knock them down, they can catch fire.

[Tim Pool]

Like Adam Carolla was saying that he said he was talking about on his show. And the next thing he knows, he looks outside or he sees this photo of a power line being knocked over.

[Ian Crossland]

I was living in Venice and it would just buzz outside my window. The salt water just causing chaos.

[Tim Pool]

Well, there's no underground with Venice, so they mean Venice, California.

[Ian Crossland]

California. I just watched a documentary on Venice, Italy today. It's fascinating. How they built that city on big wooden.

[Nick Shirley]

Sometimes you walk the streets of LA and you wonder if you're in South America or if you're in America.

[Tim Pool]

You are correct.

[Nick Shirley]

It's just the power lines, like, you don't see that everywhere, bro.

[Tim Pool]

When I was in Brazil, in the favelas, the power lines are really scary. Oh, it's a black cluster of tangled things hanging from like a post. And you're like, how does anyone connect anything to that thing? And, like, if it fell down, ain't nobody going to figure out how to fix it.

[Ian Crossland]

So you got the power lines, obviously, which is probably the biggest culprit of setting the fires, maybe. But then the water, like, how do you got to get water? They built the city in the desert because it was a nice environment, but now you got a city in the desert that relies on imports.

[Tim Pool]

Well, they. They had river water coming in and the city is just growing beyond its capabilities. And the LA river.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's like some. Some years there's no water.

[Tim Pool]

Wildfires happen. Wildfires happen. If you want to have a population of 13 million people, spread it across an area that is. That has a high potential for wildfires. You have to have forest floor management. I guess it's not a force, brush floor or whatever. But let me pull up this video right here. We got this, this tweet from Kyle Zink. He says this is our neighbor's backyard in LA right now. Power lines sparking against trees. Neighbor and I have been trying to call 911 Fire Department for 45 minutes with no answer as instructed by power company. Yes, a lot is going on, but the city is failing us. Check this video out.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, for those who are just.

[Tim Pool]

Listening, it's a fireworks show.

[Ian Crossland]

What is causing that?

[Tim Pool]

The power lines are just sparking like crazy on a tree.

[Ian Crossland]

So you think a base station blew up and now power lines are just discharging?

[Tim Pool]

I. I have no idea.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what Serge is saying.

[Tim Pool]

There, There was a lot of. There was a story like this several years ago, like 10 years ago maybe, where there was a fire and it was something like a power line sparked and landed on the ground.

[Ian Crossland]

Another problem with people being on a grid, man, electric grid, relying on a central battery that can explode and then discharge across all your lines and set fires and sparks and.

[Tim Pool]

Well, what do you use? I mean, I do think we need to. I read this really funny op ed a while ago about how the oldest functioning infrastructure machine in the United States is the power grid. It was a machine that was Built in like the early night like 1800s, early 1900s. And we've never replaced it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

It's just one big massive machine where there's several areas of weak parts.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Obviously when we build new stuff it's, it's up to code. But it's all connected to this very old.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, we'll use the boring. Elon's boring company to drill holes to pass graphene wiring underground. We got it. We just. Now we need to just weather the storm and get there.

[Tim Pool]

Tesla's wireless energy transmission.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Which I don't know if it's actually real.

[Ian Crossland]

You would send it through the ground.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And cause earthquake. I don't know if there's a science. Cause an earthquake in his. In lower New York, in lower Manhattan. And then really the cops came and, and checked it out. It's a great story. Yeah. His earthquake machine that he was building, he was all about sending electricity through the ground because the air there wasn't enough contact.

[Tim Pool]

I, I think what we're seeing with, with this stuff with the power lines with California is sooner or later it was going to happen. You've got way too many people in an area where no one takes responsibility.

[Ian Crossland]

So short term gain, short term loss. So you think the Newsom that the politicians are thinking like if we did hire people to clear out the brush, it's going to cost us 30% GDP.

[Tim Pool]

Whatever the hell what happens is. Newsom says guys, we got a problem with this brush floor. The tinder is building up. Can we clear it out? And they go, we could. It'll cost $30 million. And he goes, fine, it's better than a billion dollars in damage. And then someone's at the door, open it up. There it is. Greenpeace, Sierra Club, Environment America. And they're like, you ain't touching nothing because no matter what you do, we're going to lobby against you. And so the arguments that I've heard is that environmental organizations put pressure on the government to oppose the actions they want to take for whatever reason. Just like the delta smelt. They say there's a fish that lives here and you cannot take its water.

[Ian Crossland]

Away when it comes to the smelt. This is a little. I wouldn't have said this 20 years ago, but like sometimes you gotta let animals, some animals go extinct to preserve the human species. It's a sad utilitarian.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not gonna go extinct though. I mean it might kill them.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the specific delta smelt. No. Because they can create sanctuaries before they switch the flow Off. They just won't do it. Look, you know, Alex Jones came on the show a few years ago, was talking about that book. Was it Ishmael?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And that's why we have the shirt on the Tim cast store of the gorilla saying I am a gorilla. Because the point was in this book, the gorilla is basically a psychic gorilla. I never.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's a great book.

[Tim Pool]

I read it. Daniel Quinn is the writer telling people that they're destroying the planet. Is that what it is? Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

He's telling this guy about how humanity is kind of destroying itself. There's the leavers and the takers, and there's too many takers on Earth right now.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think it's wrong to say there's too many takers. I think most people would agree. There are a lot of people who extract. They think they deserve everything and they're required to do nothing. And it's fascinating that it is in fact largely communists. And they're the ones saying, to each according to their needs, from each according to their means. And I'm like, you ain't doing nothing. You're taking more than you need and you're giving back nothing.

[Phil Labonte]

Remember that time the Soviet Union destroyed an entire sea?

[Ian Crossland]

No.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, the Soviet Union emptied out a whole sea.

[Ian Crossland]

They did.

[Tim Pool]

Remember when they murdered millions of people too because they didn't care for the Ukrainians, all their food.

[Ian Crossland]

The holdemar, that was a man made famine.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that was.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. They were basically like, ethnic Ukrainians don't need food, Russians do. So they took all their food.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, that's so crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

And they, and they called the people that had a little bit of ability to. To farm, that had like a cow and a farm. They said that they had stolen that from the people like these. These people knew how to actually farm. And so they took their cow, they took their farms, and they said, you people should die first because you stole from the people. So that when they killed the farmers, there was the famine that killed millions.

[Tim Pool]

So someone said the. They said, no, Tim the smelter are migrating fish. They need. They live in rivers, not bays. They need moving water to survive. You know, I'm just going to say it. Who was it? What was that line from Fight Club about pandas being too stupid to bang each other for their own species? You know, remember? I remember for every panda that was too stupid to have sex to save its own species, it's like, dude, some animals aren't supposed to exist. And this is the crazy thing, the liberal mentality they want you, they want you to believe that. And I love this. The group that is, that views the world predominantly through the lens of evolution doesn't accept evolution. They're going to tell you of Christians who believe in creationism. I personally, I believe in evolution. And then you have liberals are like evolution. You're like, okay, well the smelt are going to go extinct because they're dumb and they live in an area where they can't survive. And they're like, nah, we will use man made artificial power to keep them alive and then let everyone in Southern California burn. It kind of sounds like you hate humans.

[Phil Labonte]

They, they. There's a, a heat map that I've seen shared on, I saw that on X and yeah, people that are on that are conservative. The heat map, they basically it's a preference of, of people that are close to you or an abstraction of people, people that are conservative. The heat map is all the people that are close to them. The heat map shows that they prefer people that are close to them. Their families, their community, their loved ones. And the, the left and or progressive people. The heat map says, says that all the people they, they prefer are people that are an abstraction. People that are far away from them, other cultures. And the people that are close, they.

[Nick Shirley]

Hate like they want to accept everyone but protect nobody.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah, yeah, right. Let me see if I can find it. I'll go.

[Tim Pool]

The moment they bring you into the fold, they're like, yeah, we don't care about you.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah. And then the moment you do something wrong, you're excommunicated.

[Tim Pool]

Like, I mean it is you go woke.

[Nick Shirley]

You know, like they just like there's.

[Tim Pool]

Once you're an apostate from wokeness.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah. Like there's no family in wokeness.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Nick Shirley]

No, you mess up once and you're done.

[Ian Crossland]

There's no going back to sleep.

[Tim Pool]

They don't believe in planting trees whose shade they know they will not sit beneath. And you know why? It's because they don't have kids.

[Ian Crossland]

It's more than just that. That's a big part of it. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

People, you know when that dude Mangione shot the CEO, first thing I said was he's single, he's got no kids.

[Phil Labonte]

Of course.

[Tim Pool]

Come on. Like a dude who's got kids is substantially less likely to go and do something insane like that because he's going to be like, as angry as I am, I have children and they need me to feed them.

[Ian Crossland]

Also I think they're like embedded in tv. I think like, like, like Entertainment. They're embedded in entertainment. Like, they got their television, their sports, they got their TV shows there.

[Phil Labonte]

If you're watching the show, tweet and you know that he met then I'm talking about tweeted at me so I can share it here. I can't find it because it's easy.

[Ian Crossland]

To disassociate from your neighbors. If you got like your community online or if you've got your TV show guy telling you what to do and your 50 cents a day you're sending to Africa to give some kid a cup of coffee or whatever the. Those. Those old shows were. I don't know for sure. Lack of kids is probably the number one reason. Also not owning property for me, I think.

[Phil Labonte]

Here we go.

[Ian Crossland]

When once you own your land, there's a big reason to take care of it.

[Tim Pool]

Owning anything.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, any kind of owner, car, even car ownership.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, that's.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, did you see the video of that leftist woman who gets her phone stolen and then she's arguing the homeless people being like, come on, like, I'm not rich. Like, I'm a good person. Can you give me my phone back? And they're like, screw you. And she's like, but, like, steal from rich people. Oh, yeah. You know, now you're getting it right.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Fire doesn't care what it burns.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Ian Crossland]

Light a fire. Go spreads in every direction, man. And that's. We're on earth, so it's only two dimensions.

[Tim Pool]

I can't believe the leopards ate my face. Says, man, who voted for leopards eating your face? Party.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, I.

[Tim Pool]

You found the heat map?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I did.

[Tim Pool]

Send it to me.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah. Do you want me to put it in the slack?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we will. We will pull up the why liberals hate everybody map. Is that what it is?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, it's. It shows the difference between liberals and progressives in. In the irl.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Liberals and progressives.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I'm sorry. Conservatives and progressives. So the center, the one on the left is conservatives. The one on the right is liberals. And it shows that the conservatives care for their family and the. The people in their lives and their community.

[Tim Pool]

And liberals devote much of their concern to plants, trees, and inert identities such as rocks.

[Phil Labonte]

There's this great. There's this great.

[Tim Pool]

I wish that were true because they protect ancient relics and things like that.

[Phil Labonte]

You'd think there's a meme that you see frequently. It's like, oh, the, The. The communists are siding with the bugs again. Anytime you put up A Starship Troopers meme. People are like, well, you know, blah, blah. And it's like, yeah, look, the communists are siding with the bugs again because they're creepy and weird like that.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe what we need to do is we need to have like a doctor. An Ozymandias, Dr. Manhattan style hoax. Where the smelt stage of. We stage a false flag where the smelt attack the delta.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then we have no choice but to divert the water to stop the evil threat of smelt.

[Ian Crossland]

Like a smelt eats a guy. Like the smells attack a dude and.

[Tim Pool]

It'S like, smelt carry Covid.

[Ian Crossland]

Mm.

[Tim Pool]

Let's just tell everybody that. Oh yeah, the smell carry disease. Oh yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

It's like kind of like shaking someone awake to the harsh reality that some things have to die. And it's like a horrible thing to say, but like some creatures, like on Mars, when we start terraforming and colonizing Mars, if there's a hostile life form, a bacteria, some protozoa, some microorganism, it will. We will wipe that out. We're not thinking twice. Self preservation is number one. And it sucks that we've colonized a desert. Maybe that was a human mistake. But we're about to colonize Mars, which is another form of desert.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I love. It's like when I see a stink bug in here. They're harmless, they're smelly, so I don't like them. But, you know, we'll scoop them up, we'll bring them outside. If I see anything that looks remotely like a venomous insect, it dies.

[Ian Crossland]

Ants, man. I crush them.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

If they don't stink, I'd like to take them outside, but it's such a lot of effort.

[Tim Pool]

It depends on if there's like a ton of ants.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If it's like a bunch of ants, then yeah, you gotta stop. Yeah. The pheromone trails and all that stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

It's one. It might be a scout.

[Tim Pool]

I'll scoop it up and I'll just throw in the garbage or something.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And it's like, I don't know. Answer, answer a different story. They're kind of just.

[Ian Crossland]

I like them. But.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, no, but stink bugs. We got crickets all in here. We just bring them outside, we throw them outside and. And you all. We could also collect them and give them the chickens.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You know, that's just, you know, food chain. Right. If it in any way is a threatening bug, it dies.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Let's just say that the smelt have stingers and they will sting you Poisonous venom gills.

[Nick Shirley]

Just tell them the smelt hate Trump.

[Tim Pool]

No, they vote, they vote Trump.

[Nick Shirley]

They vote Trump.

[Tim Pool]

The smelter Trump voters.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So got to divert the delta.

[Ian Crossland]

Nobody can be killed, really. It's this diverting waterway from San Francisco Bay. If that's going to destroy the bay and annihilate the farms of San Francisco, that's, that's a problem. That's, that's insurmountable.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's, let's, let's bring this to the class argument. We got this story from Newsweek. California insurer canceled policies months before Los Angeles wildfires. This is weird. Politico reports LA fires could break California's insurance market. So how is it that a few four months ago and a few weeks up to a few weeks ago, there's an insurer, there's a couple of them, I think a bunch of them actually in Malibu and Palisades in Los Angeles that abruptly canceled fire insurance. There's a video of a woman at a house, Fox News interviews her and she's like, two weeks ago they canceled fire insurance and now here we are. What did these insurance companies know and when did they know it?

[Ian Crossland]

They probably knew what we've all known for 15 years, which is California is a tinderbox and managed. Yeah, maybe it got, maybe they knew something though, particular about this year that, But I know like, what was it, 2018?

[Nick Shirley]

I think if I ever.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, no good.

[Ian Crossland]

Or.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah, I mean, if I ever heard that there's a possibility of even fire hydrants not getting water if a fire were to break out. I mean, I'd probably uninsure the people as well.

[Ian Crossland]

But like at some point.

[Tim Pool]

But the, well, so, so what I heard, Sorry, I heard that there's a law, there was a law saying that the insurers could not raise premiums. Premiums by a certain amount. And so the insurance company said, okay, then we can't cover the cost of insurance canceled. That's why.

[Ian Crossland]

Because they're like if the flood insurers of Florida or the hurricane, the people that insure like for flooding. And I know it's very, that's a big hot point too. Like there's a lot of companies that just won't insure for flood damage in Florida because of the hurricanes. But if they were to pull out right before hurricane season, that's why we have government to prevent private companies from these just pulling it over on people.

[Phil Labonte]

The reason that the companies ended all the insurance or whatever, they, they cancel the insurance policies is because they did an assessment of the situation. Insurance companies aren't in the business of losing money, right? And they look at the situation, they see that the government is not managing the, the, the, you know, the area properly. And there's, there's like a likelihood that there's going to be a fire and there's a likelihood that it's going to cause massive damage. And a fire like this, ostensibly in that area could put an entire insurance company out of business, right? Like you're talking billions and billions of dollars in damage, right? It could totally put an insurance company out of business. So they canceled those policies. Not because they're like some evil insurance company like the, the left thinks, but they looked at the situation. They said the state is not handling their job. They're not taking care of the forest areas or the brush. And so this is too great of a risk. The same reason they cancel those is the, that there are people that get into five, six, seven accidents with a boatload of speeding tickets that can't get car insurance because you're just too much of a risk. You know, that's the, that's the long and short of it. They look at the situation and they say we can't take this risk on because if there were a fire like what's going on now, it could literally put our entire company out of business because of the paying out of all of these, these policies. So they canceled the policies because they couldn't handle the risk, which is completely normal when it comes to how insurance works.

[Ian Crossland]

Serge just sent me a from Twitter of fires in California. One of the big ones. And this is, we got one 20, 2020-1820-1718-2017, 2016. And then, but then before that was 2009, so it was in 2016. You started seeing them every year for a while. There's probably some big degradation going on. Then 2009, 2008, 2007, back all the way to 03 and so on. 93, 91. So I mean, maybe there's been a string of fires in the last seven years. Although a guess, 21, 22 and 23. We looked pretty clear.

[Tim Pool]

So according to Newsweek, they say State Farm, one of the biggest insurers in California, canceled hundreds of homeowners policies last summer in the Pacific Palisades, the same area ravaged by the wildfire. The move was justified by the company as an attempt to avoid financial failure. As the frequency and severity of wildfires is growing in the Golden State, especially in at risk zones. But as multiple fires currently are burning through Southern California causing devastation, many will likely to rely on their insurers, yada, yada. We get the point. I wonder, do you think it's possible that the mismanagement is intentional so that it can justify their climate change policies? Damn, Would you put it past communists? You'd hope not to be like, let's do everything we can so that, so that there's wildfires. We can then claim it's climate change and it's Trump's fault.

[Nick Shirley]

I mean, how could you claim climate change too, in California where they literally try everything they can to protect climate.

[Tim Pool]

Change and, like, because they're dumb enough to believe it.

[Nick Shirley]

I mean, you have a point.

[Ian Crossland]

The idea of, I mean, intentionally destroying an area to recoup it is not far off. I don't know. Like, I feel like they're doing that in Ukraine. They're letting, they're just decimating it to rubble so that BlackRock can rebuild it and own a portion of it or something.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know that I think that they're doing it in order to blame climate change because they, they have ample excuses for climate change. You know, everything, whether it be there's. There's an entire season of hurricanes that they blame on climate change. Every year there's these fires. I don't think they need to have a more dramatic, you know, a more dramatic catastrophe so that way they can blame climate change. I think they're gonna, they'll blame climate change no matter what and they, It'll.

[Tim Pool]

Rain and they'll claim it's climate change.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it doesn't matter what the, what happens. They're going to blame crime change.

[Tim Pool]

Remember when there was a storm in D.C. and the storm sirens went off and AOC was like, this is climate change. It's a tornado. Like, there's a, it's. The funny thing is there are storm, storm sirens because tornadoes do happen in the area. And she was like, this is climate change. No, that's. We installed the storm sirens because this is common, actually. Yeah, it doesn't happen all the time, but it's like, we know it happens.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, dude, there was a, there was a tornado in New England maybe like 10 years ago, and which is, you know, you think New England, because it's all hills and stuff. You'd think that they wouldn't happen at all. But there was, you know, they can happen just about anywhere. So. But it's still, I don't think that they need, they need an excuse. They're just going to blame climate change. And like I said earlier, look, if you really are concerned with climate change and you really think it's a. Something that's going to destroy the Earth and the seeds are going to boil away, then you should be lobbying for us to invade China and invade India and take them over and institute actual policies that will stop their burning of coal and dung and all of the. The.

[Nick Shirley]

That's what I find the stupidest thing about climate change is we have these other countries, other places where literally their populations are three times as large. And if you watch the videos, it's like there's, like, no controls on what they're doing. Like, all these buses, everything, like, they're.

[Tim Pool]

Emitting all these things, you know, I'm kind of happy we live the way we do, because these countries, if you look at the videos out of China, where it's a smog everywhere.

[Nick Shirley]

Oh, I'm extremely happy we live right America.

[Tim Pool]

And so we're like, we're looking at these countries. You know, for once, I'd love to see Greta Thunberg say how dare you to China just one. One time. You know what I mean? How dare you? She said she goes to Europe and she's like, you got rid of plastic straws and you're all drinking out of chemical paper. How dare you? And we're like, china is the one that's dumping everything in the water, dude. Come on.

[Phil Labonte]

Southeast Asia is where all of the plastic that is in the Pacific Ocean, all of it comes from Southeast Asia. It's all coming from China and. And the islands and stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

Is that like an actual.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, if there. I have a. I have a picture.

[Ian Crossland]

That huge majority comes out of.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, there's a third. Like, there's more people that live in a circle over Southeast Asia. That includes China and India. There's more human beings that live inside that circle than live outside of it. And I'll take. I have a picture. I'll find the picture.

[Ian Crossland]

I sort of feel like complaining about climate change is complaining about how poop stinks. Like, okay, we all get it. It stinks. You're going to. People are going to poop. You can't make them stop. People are going to create waste. Can't make them stop. People are going to burn wood. Can't make them stop. They're going to burn coal. They're going to burn gas and oil. Can't stop them. Unless, like Phil said, you want to militarily invade and stand there on the corner with rifles and. So you can't do it. No, they're going to do it. We need to figure out how to reuse the stuff. Here's waste product. Not, not stop making the stuff or complain about it.

[Tim Pool]

Here's what I want Trump to do. He's going to set up something called the Review. And in every city there will be a building where you are required by appointment to show up. And then they just ask you a simple question like, what do you, what are your thoughts on, on climate change? And they're going to say, oh, I think it's bad. And it's like, do you think that we should ban the use or the use of oil? Yes. Okay, boys. And then a bunch of guys come in, strip them of all of their petroleum based clothing, take away the keys to their car, seize their vehicle, go to their house, strip it down. They can live in a mud hut. I'm joking. The point is all of these well to do liberal types that are like, but climate change, there's a hilarious video where you've got these. What are those? Protesters. They block the streets.

[Ian Crossland]

Whatever.

[Nick Shirley]

Palestine protesters.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. The energy ones that.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, the climate extinction rebellion.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah, the orange.

[Tim Pool]

And there's a guy and he's like, you're wearing a jacket made from petrochemicals. Like, it's a petroleum based plastic jacket with plastic synthetic filling. Like, literally all of you are doused in oil and you're sitting here complaining about it. It is the most ridiculous, stupid stuff. I tell you this, if you want to complain about oil, we start with you. Okay, no more oil. Fine. First thing is, if you want to complain about oil, you're allowed to. That was always allowed. If you actually want to implement policy and make us change, you have to abandon all oil products first.

[Phil Labonte]

I, you know, if you want to check out, I put up the.

[Ian Crossland]

Tweet it out.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I put it in the, in the slack. In the IRL slack.

[Nick Shirley]

I just don't like how they make. Like, I remember in school they were telling us, like, oh, by 2030, New York City will be underwater. And it's like, I go to New York City, it still looks just fine. So it's like Maldives. And I'm also like, I, I also think, like, things are just going to happen. Like, you can't stop all forest fires. Like, well, you know, you know, it's inevitable that they're going to happen. It's like a process of.

[Tim Pool]

How old are you?

[Nick Shirley]

22.

[Tim Pool]

22. So, so when you said, when you were in school, how long ago is it?

[Phil Labonte]

I'm five minutes.

[Nick Shirley]

No, no, I remember like elementary school. And they're Telling you, like, by 2030 or whatnot.

[Tim Pool]

Right, right, I know, but that's still, like, what, 10 years ago?

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So 20, 25 years ago, were they.

[Nick Shirley]

Telling you guys 38. Yes. Like, nothing's.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm going to be 50 this year.

[Nick Shirley]

And they're telling you that.

[Phil Labonte]

We're telling. They were telling me by the time 2000 came around, when I was in. In grade school, when I was in before, like, 89, 88, when I just got into high school. If we don't fix climate change, if we don't fix global warming. It was back then all the sea, all the snow caps are going to be gone. There's a movie called An Inconvenient Truth that Al Gore, former. Former vice president made, and it came out in 2006, and he was swearing up and down that by 2020, five years ago, swearing up and down, by 2020, the ice caps were gonna be gone and the seas were gonna rise. A massive problem with people my age listening to this garbage is. We've been hearing the same garbage for literally 25 years. Like Tim said, 30 years. So it's like, you're full of crap. The evidence is that none of the stuff that you've been saying for 30 years has come to fruition at all. So why am I going to listen to you now?

[Ian Crossland]

They'd give you, you know, models, but they don't take into account mitigating circumstances. A lot of times, like, things will change. Technologies will be invented that will redirect the path that you're looking at in 30 years from now. So don't panic. That's the biggest thing is don't panic. Don't create alarm. Maybe you want to ring the alarm, but, like, do it with a purpose, with, like, a solution.

[Tim Pool]

But they should be saying it's up to you to solve for this problem. Good luck. Instead of saying, the end is nigh. Sorry, bye. Yeah, you should be saying, here's a problem we're facing, but we believe in you, and if you guys work hard enough, we will find a way through this.

[Ian Crossland]

I think we can. I think we can find symbiosis with the climate, but it does take a global effort. Like, if the Chinese and the Indians are going to burn untold amounts of methane and carbon, you know, then what? We can't.

[Phil Labonte]

They burn dung. A lot of people in. In India still burn dung because India is still like, basically a third world country. Like, there are parts of India that are modern.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, do you mean like cow dung?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, because. Because they look at Cow is sacred, so it might.

[Tim Pool]

But. But the poop, I don't think.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. I don't want to offend.

[Ian Crossland]

They use a lot of kerosene a lot of places.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I don't know. But the point, the point that I'm making is, is there when they're burning waste like that, that's because they're, they're the, the options they have are very limited. So, like, you've got, you've got burning, you know, they're burning wood, burning dung, burning. Some places are burning coal and stuff. And like I said, plastic, probably. Billion five in India, maybe 500 million of them live in modern cities and stuff like that. That means there's a billion people that are still in the tribal areas, that are living in the, in the rural areas that don't have reliable IND plumbing, that don't have. I mean, they're living like they did 500 years ago. And in China, there are fewer people that are living in the, in the, out in the, the wilderness, like, like the, like the Indians. But there are still a large portion of China. They're. They're poor people and they live on farms and they, you know, they got to do what they got to do to heat their homes because China has weather just like everywhere else in the world. So it's not, it's not like. It's not like if you fix America and if you just, you know, get everybody to change their lights to led, we're going to solve climate change. Or even if you get everybody to buy electric cars. And I'm not against electric cars. I love mine. I got a Tesla. I think it's the coolest thing in the world. I love it. I got so a solar array on my house in New Hampshire. I love it there. It's great. I'm not against this stuff, but the idea that you can just flip the switch and say, here, everybody go to this now.

[Tim Pool]

That's not happening.

[Ian Crossland]

If there's a solar flare, you got to burn oil. Like, you need combustion. You can't rely on batteries constantly.

[Tim Pool]

Forever, bro. You're. There will be a time in our future where I don't know if Tesla will do it, but these electric cars, you're going to sit down in your car, the doors are going to lock, and it's going to be like, I'm sorry, I can't let you drive the car, Phil. Your carbon emissions have been too high this week.

[Nick Shirley]

Only if you live in Canada.

[Ian Crossland]

Stop breathing.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, everywhere, man.

[Ian Crossland]

We took a driverless Car Canada.

[Nick Shirley]

Don't they have a carbon tax?

[Phil Labonte]

Probably, they might, yeah, but probably have.

[Tim Pool]

A white privilege tax as far as.

[Nick Shirley]

I'm sure they do.

[Ian Crossland]

Urban consumption, you get taxed on it.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah. Tax on your amount of like carbon you emit into the emissions.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Did you guys see the congestion fee now? Oh, in New York? Yeah. It's like $9 for cars.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, for one.

[Tim Pool]

Like, and then per day or per week or what?

[Nick Shirley]

Every time you pass, every time you pass the street and then what?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, what street?

[Nick Shirley]

Like if you, once you enter into lower Manhattan, I think 60th street, you get charged $9. But the stupid thing is, is these service companies as well that have like the plumbers, electricians, they have to be, they're, they're charging them anywhere from like 15, like, I think like $35 or 25 bucks. So they're trying to stop the flow of traffic. Meanwhile they're just going to cause the prices.

[Tim Pool]

They want people to take a look at this subway.

[Phil Labonte]

Check it out.

[Tim Pool]

This is a New York City drivers trying to tick tock to share illegal hacks to dodge $15 congestion fee. I thought it was $9. This is from Car Scoops.

[Nick Shirley]

It's $9 for if like me and you were to drive in. But it goes up for different sorts of different vehicles.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, makes sense. Yeah. Collecting from most drivers. So I've been seeing these reports where people are now. They've always had this stuff where you can put this like epoxy over your license plate. So to the human eye it looks normal, but when you take a picture with a flash, it just blurs out white. And so New York posted this article where they're like, the congestion fee has resulted in people smashing their license plates, bending them so the cameras can't AI scan the number or scratching out one of the numbers or they do a thing where they stick a leaf. They use like a light adhesive so it can peel right off and they put a leaf on it so you can't see one number. That way they can be like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize a leaf was on my license plate. It's not my fault because they don't want to pay this fee.

[Nick Shirley]

I mean, it's ridiculous. They're already paying so much money in taxes and then every single day, like they give $12 million to migrants in New York City.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

They want everybody to go into the subway and get lit on fire.

[Tim Pool]

Have you seen the, the photos and the videos of people all hugging the walls now? Oh, man, in the New York City subways. So I'll tell you, when I used to take subway in New York, I would always stay the f away from the edge. Because, listen, it wasn't that it was the most prominent thing where people were being shoved in front of trains, but there was always four or five crazy guys spitting and yelling and shaking. And I'm like, you just never know. I've seen fights break out then with all of the people. Did you guys see that video from, like, last week where the dude is on his phone and then some dude just walked up and shoves him right. Right in front of a train?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, he survived.

[Tim Pool]

That guy did critical injuries, but he survived.

[Ian Crossland]

Found the guy that pushed him.

[Tim Pool]

Yup.

[Ian Crossland]

Thank God.

[Tim Pool]

And why did he do it? So now there are these videos and photos popping up where it's. Everybody's just up against the wall.

[Ian Crossland]

Good, good.

[Tim Pool]

No, dude, you have to live this way.

[Nick Shirley]

And I wonder if it's like, downtown Manhattan, like, because I've. We've all done taking the subway, and you feel somewhat safe. But then when you get out to the outskirts, I wonder if that's, like, where the craziness happens for the most part. I mean, one time I was on the. On the subway in Bronx, and some guy looked at me, and I looked at him and he's like, what you looking at, Eli. Eli Manning.

[Ian Crossland]

I'll.

[Nick Shirley]

I'll. I'll blow your face up. I was like, what? He's like, blow spread everywhere. I'll knock your ass out. I was like, what the heck? And like, crazy, you have a mental illness problem as well. And people are on the subways and. Well, and they're like. They're dangerous. Like that guy that threatened me that day, like, he said he was going to shoot me because I was looking at him calling me Eli Manning. I was like, what?

[Tim Pool]

You do look like Eli.

[Ian Crossland]

You do. After you said. I was like, oh, hell yeah, you do, dude.

[Chris Christie]

You look like Eli.

[Nick Shirley]

But it's just, like, a little dangerous. And then. I mean, now they're just going to have so many people on those subways going in, because I saw a video and the traffic does look less. And so, I mean, all those people are on the subway, and the subway's already packed, and those things are not even clean inside there.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, they're gross. I mean, so we did all that remains. The band that I'm in did. Did a tour a couple years back, and we had the option of going into Manhattan and playing or just doing a couple shows in, you know, Outside of the city. We did one on Long island and we did one in Jersey because going into Manhattan is too much of a pain in the balls. What's the point? Like, I'm you. You drive a bus in, you have to. If you can drive the bus in, you can only get dropped off and the bus can't stay. The bus has to go and stay at the Vince Lombardi in Jersey. You cannot bring trucks in. You can't bring an 18 wheeler or a box truck in. You can't stay there. So it just makes everything about playing in the city a pain in the ass. And we go to, like, we go to the Starland Ballroom in Jersey, which is a phenomenal room. It's close enough where people will go like the surrounding area, they'll go to the. To the Starland. And if you play, you know, somewhere on Long island, people will go there. It's not like there's a lot of people on Manhattan that are looking to. There's. It's not like there are people on Manhattan that won't leave New York. You know, of course there's some people that are like, well, I don't have a car and so I don't want to go too far away. But at the same time, you. If you can go to these, these other rooms and have the same turnout or better, because people don't want to go into the city anymore, what's the point of going to the city? And I know that all that remains isn't the only band that's like, I don't want to go and play in the city. It's too much of a hassle. I can't get my bus in there. I can't get our 18 wheeler in there. We can't get our box truck in there. It's too much of a pain in the ass to do it. So why are, you know, why would people go do it?

[Nick Shirley]

And why are they like, penalizing tourism as well?

[Tim Pool]

Like.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah, and you feel bad for the people that have, like these service companies because, I mean, if anything, they should be exempt from that congestion fee price because they're trying to make money and then they just add another fee on top of them. It makes it even harder for them to make money inside these big cities where it's already hard enough to make enough money.

[Ian Crossland]

Are they getting. Are people that have electric vehicles? Do they not have to pay?

[Nick Shirley]

I think they do, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I'm pretty sure they all do. It's about congestion.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a congestion fee. It's.

[Nick Shirley]

But it's like. It's like in California when you just have all these random tourism taxes, it's like, why are they penalizing you for being a tourist or wanting to come and give money to the city and help like, and fuel their economy?

[Ian Crossland]

I think that you got to pay money to cross the bridge, obviously the one in New Jersey for sure. When you enter, it's like it was 10 bucks, 12 bucks, 15 bucks. Went back when I was living there 10, 15 years ago. And I think that was just a payoff. It was supposed to be a temporary fee. I could be wrong about that. I don't know if you guys know the story.

[Phil Labonte]

Fees that are ever temporary.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. They spin it up and they're like, this is to pay off the cost of the bridge. And then all of a sudden they're like, wow, now we use the money for reoccurring taxes.

[Phil Labonte]

And we 90 in Massachusetts was supposed to have a toll just until it was finished being being made. And then after that they held on to it and they were saying, oh, once the Big Dig is done, then we'll get rid of the tool. Big Digs done been done for like 15 years or something like that. And they've still got a toll there.

[Ian Crossland]

It's kind of like the Panama Canal. Like, once you dig it, you want to keep it forever. Same way with these tolls. Anyway, I just want to talk about the Panama Canal. I'm glad that Trump wants it back. I mean, it makes military need. But anyway, I digress.

[Nick Shirley]

And what's annoying too about these tolls is like, if you pull up a lot of times and you want to pay, there's nobody inside the toll box. And so then you just get some random bill that you forget about in your mail.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Nick Shirley]

And then you're paying 50 bucks. I mean, I go all across the country and I have like hundreds of dollars of these toll fees. I'm like, word like, what bridge? Where did I cross?

[Ian Crossland]

Do you easy pass?

[Nick Shirley]

Do I? Yeah, not when I'm renting all these cars.

[Ian Crossland]

You can't take your easy pass from car to car.

[Phil Labonte]

Or like just.

[Nick Shirley]

I probably could. I need to look into that.

[Tim Pool]

But here's. Here's a funny thing. This is congestion pricing advocate attacked at NYC subway station. I guess not as new $9 toll pushes people to mass transit. So be careful what you wish wish for. A vocal proponent of the state's controversial congestion pricing plan was was attacked in Manhattan subway station over the weekend. Layla Log, a seco president of the City Club of New York, which Sued Kathy Hochul to implement the unpopular toll for motorists was bruised and battered.

[Ian Crossland]

Geez, man, New Yorkers ain't having it.

[Tim Pool]

Does that count towards Redyard's kids, you know, thing?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, she. She's alive. So thankfully, she's.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I kind of. I feel like I should have taken up Rudyard on that bet because I don't think. I think. I think I'd win.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I think you're right, but at the same time, like, I. I wouldn't be surprised if. If it does get into, you know, double or triple digits.

[Ian Crossland]

So this is the dude that pushed to get this thing, the lady that pushed to get it implemented. The tax. And then people rose up, very much mad. They want, like, all people taking Ubers and. And whatever. Autonomous vehicles, basically.

[Tim Pool]

They want Waymos.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Yeah, I took those in in Phoenix for the first time. A driverless vehicle. Dude, it was awesome.

[Tim Pool]

Except it's gonna rain, and you're gonna walk out and the Waymo's gonna pull up, you're gonna sit down, it's gonna drive two blocks, a thunderstorm's gonna start, and it's gonna stop dead in the middle of the street. It's gonna be like, must wait due to inclement weather. And you're gonna go, okay, I guess I'm stuck.

[Ian Crossland]

Is that coded into the thing? I don't know much about Tesla.

[Tim Pool]

Tesla can't auto drive when it's. It's a bad storm and you can't get. Okay, like, it. It technically can, but every single time it's rained or snowed out here, it says, like, auto drive. You know, auto steer unavailable. Yeah. So I don't know, maybe Waymo's got that big spinning thing on top. It can navigate better.

[Phil Labonte]

But doesn't Waymo. Waymos doesn't use cameras, do they?

[Tim Pool]

It's all sonar.

[Ian Crossland]

Sonar. And they're grid. New York's nice gridded. So it's like you're either going straight or you're turning 90 degrees for the most part.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe they. They put nodes on every intersection, on the corners, so the car knows where it is. And then every other car is going to have this node installed.

[Ian Crossland]

It would be pretty cool if you walk down to lower Manhattan and it's just constant. The cars, they're all moving in synchronicity, and then they all stop at once, and all the pedestrians move, and then they all move in synchronicity again.

[Tim Pool]

That's the plan. That's what the Technocrats want. They want it so that no one owns A car. You open up your Uber app and you click vehicle. And then like an egg shaped pod pulls up, opens up, and it's just chairs facing each other. You sit down and it drives you where you want to go.

[Ian Crossland]

And then if there's a forest fire, you're like, where's my Waymo? Like, no, get out. Get out now. You're like, but I don't have a car anymore. Get out. Good luck getting out of the city.

[Tim Pool]

You will own nothing and you will be happy.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what they want. Ah, man, it's so convenient these. Have you taken Awaymo?

[Nick Shirley]

I have not.

[Ian Crossland]

You've been in a driverless vehicle?

[Nick Shirley]

No, just a few Teslas.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but have you seen that Waymos.

[Nick Shirley]

Are so spooky looking. They got like these. These like propellers on the top. All these things. Like what.

[Tim Pool]

Who was talking about it where the guy was in the parking lot and he was late for his flight and the Waymo was just going in circles in the parking lot.

[Phil Labonte]

Nightmare Fuel.

[Tim Pool]

Was that cliff talking about that?

[Nick Shirley]

Did the Waymos at least have a steering wheel inside?

[Tim Pool]

Let me see if I can find that.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a regular. If you. If you sit in the front seat, the driver's seat, it'll stop and it'll call the customer service of the Waymo. We. We found that happen first.

[Ian Crossland]

You tried. Yeah, because I wanted to put my bag in the driver's seat because I was like, wait, it's a big empty spot to like store something while we're moving.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it's not.

[Ian Crossland]

But they were like, they warned me, don't do it, Ian. Yeah, which is still a little dumb in my opinion. Like, they should utilize that area for storage. Of course.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this.

[Phil Labonte]

Me search Carter.

[Tim Pool]

Man nearly misses flight as self driving Waymo taxi drives around in parking lot in circles. Where's. Where's the. Where's the video though?

[Phil Labonte]

Furious.

[Tim Pool]

What is this?

[Phil Labonte]

What happens if you've. If you just open the.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, here we go.

[Ian Crossland]

Happened to me on a Monday. I'm in a Waymo car.

[Tim Pool]

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[Ian Crossland]

This car is just going in. In circles.

[Tim Pool]

I'm calling from way more support. I'm just calling the guy to receive a notification that your car might be experiencing some routing issue. Please bear with me while I am.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I got a flight to catch. Why is this thing going in a circle? I'm getting dizzy.

[Nick Shirley]

It's.

[Ian Crossland]

Look at what it's doing.

[Tim Pool]

I understand. I'm really, really sorry, Mike. We're currently working with the situation of the vehicle. Is it circling around a park? Parking lot. Right?

[Ian Crossland]

It's circling around a parking lot. I got my seatbelt on the car.

[Tim Pool]

The future.

[Ian Crossland]

What's going on?

[Tim Pool]

Take the seatbelt off.

[Phil Labonte]

I feel like if he'd have done something. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And I got a flight to catch. I understand, Mike.

[Tim Pool]

I'm really sorry for this. We're working with this, but. Yeah. Chance, do you have an access to your Way More app right now? Yeah, I'm gonna be pulling the car over while we are trying to assist.

[Nick Shirley]

It really is just going in a circle.

[Ian Crossland]

Second.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, my goodness.

[Ian Crossland]

I just better not be late for the flight. You guys are going to take care of the flight. That part really?

[Tim Pool]

So sorry. Yeah, yeah. She doesn't want to pay for that.

[Ian Crossland]

This is crazier.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, there it goes again. Guys, if you have your app, you need to top my trip on the lower left corner of your app.

[Ian Crossland]

Can't you just do it?

[Phil Labonte]

You should be able to handle it.

[Tim Pool]

Take over the car. You don't need my phone. I don't have an option to control the car. Wow, that's amazing, dude. One of my favorite memes was like, the future is stupid. And it's like my book ran out of batteries. It's like, yep, that's where we're at right now. I'm excited for the future, though.

[Ian Crossland]

I love the convenience, but damn, they can drive your car from a distance. That's pretty crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

Have you seen the. There's a company that offers the. The dog style robots. Offers them now for 1600 bucks. What?

[Ian Crossland]

Holy crap. We got to get one of those. One in an office.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't.

[Ian Crossland]

I did like three of them for the office.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know the parameter check. Yeah, I don't know the name of the company off the top of my head, but I'll grab it for you. I was listening to the all in podcast, and it's a Chinese company, so anything that.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, you can get it on Amazon.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly. And they have the humanoid style one for around 15 grand.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Phil Labonte]

And now the big breakthrough that they're talking about in AI is agent. Agent. Agentic. AI. So AI that can do things more than just Google search for you.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

Because that's essentially what LLMs are right now. But if you can get an AI to say, hey.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, just here it is.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Ian Crossland]

Good dang.

[Phil Labonte]

There's one that it does.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Look at it. It's dancing. Well, what's it doing?

[Ian Crossland]

I wonder if we can ride A skateboard. Dude, look at this. We got to teach it how to write.

[Phil Labonte]

One that has a. Has wheels. There's a video of. Look at it go. And you're literally gonna go.

[Tim Pool]

It got moves.

[Phil Labonte]

There's a dude sitting on it with the wheels and it is hauling ass.

[Nick Shirley]

These will shoot fire as well.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I've seen those.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, dude, mount some cameras, give it a face.

[Phil Labonte]

Doing that's just the gyroscope to help.

[Ian Crossland]

You know that thing's gonna be able to drop it on the demon.

[Tim Pool]

Drop gyroscope on its face.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's why it's spinning.

[Ian Crossland]

Dude, that thing's gonna be able to skate this park.

[Phil Labonte]

But I'm not 100 sure.

[Tim Pool]

But that's, that's no gyro is going to be like a, like a, a disc inside its body.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, it's a sonar.

[Tim Pool]

Sonar. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Phil Labonte]

So that, listen, the, the when, when they, if they do.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, look at that. They got the human one.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. This thing is like 15 grand.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh my God.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, it doesn't have hands on it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yet, but you'll get it.

[Tim Pool]

Escape or can we buy this? Just have it run down Martinsburg full speed like down Main Street.

[Ian Crossland]

Someone will steal it. Well, maybe. Actually.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, we're, we're less than a year or maybe, maybe 18 months away from Android of being available to do your dishes or your security because, well, I mean security it.

[Tim Pool]

Security.

[Phil Labonte]

Fine.

[Ian Crossland]

That's, that's the one learning the predecessor.

[Phil Labonte]

No, but the point that I'm making in is it can, once you get an actual AI that can actually do perform tasks.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, like washing dishes.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly. The robot like that is $15,000. And what's going to happen is your average, your average middle class person, right. Poor people aren't going to be able to yet, but your average middle class person, they're going to look at that and say I don't have to do dishes, mow the lawn or go do groceries anymore for, for $550 a month because they'll, they'll finance it.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this. At skate park, you know, you know what I want to do? I want to get like 50 of them and then I want to have them attack Special Mike.

[Ian Crossland]

He beat them.

[Tim Pool]

All of our team writers and just give them a sword.

[Ian Crossland]

Good luck.

[Phil Labonte]

That out there would be sick. But I mean look at fifteen hundred dollars. So like in the next, in the next year or two, like Musk has talked about, you know, at some point in the next five years there's going to be more robots running around the world than there are humans. Because. And the reason is because if the. If they're right about the price points, and your average person, you know, can pay 15 grand, 500amonth for five years or whatever. You know, it's like, that's. Well, that's right around the car. The. A used Prius, right? So, like, if you can get a robot that does all of the annoying housework for you and does it properly for 15 grand, you're going to have a massive amount of people that are middle class that'll say, I'll pay that monthly bill, bro.

[Tim Pool]

I've been watching Westworld because I. I watched the first season and never watched the rest of it because I hear it's bad. So I. I was like, well, you know, I'm like, waiting for land man on Sunday. So I put on Westworld. And this is kind of freaky stuff, you know. Oh, have you got. Have you seen Westworld?

[Ian Crossland]

No.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it's about.

[Ian Crossland]

It's like an old West VR realm or something.

[Tim Pool]

It's not VR. It's like they make a bunch of robots that are like humans, so you can just goof off, off and do whatever you want.

[Ian Crossland]

So it's a real place. It's not a virtual.

[Tim Pool]

A real place.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And then. But the robots come to life. Like, wake up, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

That's what these things are. You said they're Chinese.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, that's some spyware company.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, you buy one of these and put them in here. CCP's got you mapped out, bro.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna buy, like, I'm. I'm buying this special mic. I am gonna. I'm not gonna tell Mike. And it's gonna have it chase him one day. Like, he'll walk in and go, hey, guys. And it's just like, it just runs out of the room full speed in.

[Phil Labonte]

Ian, you're right. It is gonna. It is basically Chinese spyware. But there's going to be. As the technology progresses, this is the same kind of. This is the type of thing that will get significantly cheaper as people. As more people buy them. Just like your cell phones and just like your TVs. Like, you can buy a TV that has all the. All the features you could possibly want. HD 4k for $1000.

[Ian Crossland]

I imagine cars are intentionally kept expensive. I could be wrong about that. But 16 grand for a car.

[Phil Labonte]

Look at.

[Tim Pool]

Look at what.

[Phil Labonte]

Look at what a Model 3 can do for $35,000.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

So it's. It's not. It's not. It's not that in. They're intentionally kept expensive.

[Ian Crossland]

So do with these things. Because I want one of these robots. I want to like, literally go buy one tonight. I'm not going to because it's ccp. Are you?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I'm gonna buy three to have them monitor the perimeter.

[Phil Labonte]

That's sick.

[Tim Pool]

And they'll just be walking around.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then they'll give us alerts when they encounter people.

[Ian Crossland]

You can reach a name because I want to be like, oh, hello, Rufus.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna name. I'm gonna number them 1, 2, and 4.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, perfect.

[Phil Labonte]

1, 2, 1, 2, and Johnny 5.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the point is when. If the people find the three of them and they say 1, 2, 4, they'll be like, where's the last one?

[Ian Crossland]

Did someone let the dogs in at.

[Tim Pool]

The end of the night?

[Ian Crossland]

You won't need to let them in actually, ever.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I'd love to do is. I'd. I'd love to have Seamus ride one of them.

[Ian Crossland]

The cat or the man.

[Phil Labonte]

There's a video.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Depending on how big they are.

[Phil Labonte]

There's a video of a human being riding one with the wheels. I saw. I don't know. I don't think it's on their website, but I saw.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know what, like, what is this?

[Phil Labonte]

Might have been on YouTube.

[Ian Crossland]

There's one with wheels and one without.

[Tim Pool]

What is this industry one, like, what's the point? I don't understand unitry.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, you. So can you swap the legs in? You gotta give it wheel feet. That's cool. Modular. And then what industry, like, he'll be used for transporting wood and materials and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Don't you just think it'd be, like, really fun if you were, like, standing and 10 of them were running full speed at you and you had like a sword and you just had to fight him off?

[Ian Crossland]

I'd rather play space pirates.

[Phil Labonte]

In the Discord. There's a link to the. To the dude riding it. It what in the Discord.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know if I can pull that one up.

[Phil Labonte]

It's on YouTube.

[Ian Crossland]

Who's riding what's.

[Tim Pool]

What's the title of it? Why. Why don't you. Why don't you put Send it to me. There it is.

[Ian Crossland]

Your car will become your robot. I mean, that's what he names it. Optimus Elon.

[Tim Pool]

You send it to me.

[Ian Crossland]

He's the Transformer. So you could ride your car and then the car will stand up and become, like, humanoid. And then we'll go. It'll be like A motorcycle.

[Phil Labonte]

Look at this.

[Tim Pool]

I got it. Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, and this is legit. Like, this is. Is not AI What?

[Tim Pool]

So this is. This is the thing we could buy right now.

[Phil Labonte]

You can ride it right now, bro.

[Tim Pool]

I'll ride this to the store. That'd be hilarious. And then, like, when I go inside, I'll be like, robo dog, stay. Wow, look at that. You know, I. I'm. I just want to point something out real quick. Like, you hear that rock music in the background?

[Phil Labonte]

That's AI music. Yeah, I just. I'm.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know for sure.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm just saying it's kind of funny because were talking about yesterday that the last rock song to hit number one was in 2001, and it was Nickelback. Yeah, it was funny that all these companies use rock as their, like, background music despite, like, not charting. Oh, it did a 180. Look at that.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, crap, dude.

[Tim Pool]

180.

[Ian Crossland]

Can you defeat the dog?

[Tim Pool]

You think I want to fight this.

[Ian Crossland]

Play game of skate with that thing?

[Nick Shirley]

Dude, you think China ever just laughs at us when we're, like, talking about climate change? And meanwhile, they're building all the stuff? They're like, look at you guys.

[Tim Pool]

We.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, we, like, Boston Dynamics has stuff that really, you know, makes this. This stuff or that does all this stuff as well. It's just that China, they just release it to the public faster than the US Is allowed.

[Ian Crossland]

It's like getting your video game console in here.

[Tim Pool]

I want to see it hit that handrail. Wow, look at that.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, that was a Nintendo. Just wants you to get the console for cheap so that they can make you buy a bunch of games. They just want you to get this thing for cheap.

[Tim Pool]

40 kilograms, dude. Yeah. That's carrying 80 pounds. Look at that.

[Phil Labonte]

Just over obstacles and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

You could have go to the store, pick up milk for you.

[Ian Crossland]

Dang, that thing's got a motor on it.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Ian Crossland]

Here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

Is this thing.

[Tim Pool]

I'm buying this.

[Phil Labonte]

Put a. Put a saddle on with some stirrups to keep your feet off the ground.

[Ian Crossland]

He's riding it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I told you. Oh, you guys.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I believed you.

[Phil Labonte]

Look at that. It'll. Dude, this thing will do the vert, dude.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, for real?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I bet it could do the drop in 100.

[Ian Crossland]

It's kind of like a motorcycle. Like, you've just sort of just bypassed turning cars into these things, and you've built them that have the same function as the car. Obviously, it's. It's tiny, but that's A quad cycle.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, you gotta call them and they're in China. Buy now shop. $16,000 for the human.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, man. What's.

[Tim Pool]

I kind of. I think we got to do it.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, dude.

[Tim Pool]

And we got it. We gotta. We gotta put like a human silicon mask on it.

[Ian Crossland]

That sounds good.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Just.

[Ian Crossland]

We'll get like one like an expert with facial reconstruction.

[Tim Pool]

Not like, here's the problem. You go to order it and it's like, contact us. It's like, huh.

[Phil Labonte]

If you buy it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Tim Pool]

You could buy right now.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, if you buy.

[Ian Crossland]

If you.

[Phil Labonte]

You can buy one from Amazon for four grand.

[Ian Crossland]

Does it come with the wheels?

[Phil Labonte]

They have the top 3D shop unitry.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Where do we.

[Phil Labonte]

29 unitree.

[Ian Crossland]

This is like the deal with the devil. This is like putting Alexa in my house.

[Tim Pool]

We're not gonna bring it in Alexa. I'm just gonna walk around outside.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The EDU weighs 15 kg. Aluminum alloy, high strength engineering, plastic. Is that the top level payload? Eight kilograms. Ah, see that's, that's. It's itty bitty.

[Ian Crossland]

Eight kilograms.

[Phil Labonte]

I might have to buy one to see how it takes. Five, five, six rounds? Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Geez. What are they made of?

[Tim Pool]

Aluminum. Aluminum.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. These things are lightweight.

[Tim Pool]

How do I buy the guy? Could you imagine just like this, dude, this robot walking around and then someone comes here to act a fool and the robot just walks up.

[Ian Crossland]

But he just had it sitting down there. Yeah, like security at the front desk.

[Phil Labonte]

But I mean the, the, the point of bringing it up like this stuff is. Is, you know, a couple years away from being.

[Tim Pool]

You put an all on its back.

[Ian Crossland]

An arm. That's pretty sweet. What would you do with that arm?

[Tim Pool]

Throw rocks at people?

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah. You could spin around real fast and.

[Phil Labonte]

Let looks like the open doors spin.

[Tim Pool]

It around and sling it at you.

[Ian Crossland]

Put a sling on the end of the arm.

[Tim Pool]

The future is weird, man.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, the, the robotics are significantly further along than people realize. You know, this like, we're all pretty plugged into like things like this to technology and stuff like that. And this is a surprise to most.

[Tim Pool]

O dude, we could put the human robot in Ian's seat.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Ian Crossland]

Great.

[Tim Pool]

All we gotta do and just, and just what we'll do is we'll load in all the episodes of IRL that Ian's been on and we'll have what? We'll use a large language model to isolate Ian's speech patterns and have it just simulate Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

What if I could just voice chat through it into the microphone from home. That'd be banger.

[Tim Pool]

Nah, it's more demeaning if the robot pretends to be you.

[Ian Crossland]

That's fine. Just remind people.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, guys, I'm Robot Ian. Yeah, hey, Robot Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

Always.

[Tim Pool]

If I mentioned graphene yet.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, no, buy my coffee.

[Tim Pool]

Buy my coffee.

[Ian Crossland]

As long as. If they build an AI of me. You got to always remind the people that you're an AI version, because they're going to make AI copies of all of us in the future. Like, they're like, are you going to live forever?

[Phil Labonte]

I just.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know what that means, actually. But my personality will be embedded in this video. Sorry, Phil.

[Phil Labonte]

The actual rope is the humanoid, but.

[Tim Pool]

This looks like cgi. You.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it's real.

[Tim Pool]

Are you sure?

[Ian Crossland]

I do that exercise. Oh, look at that.

[Nick Shirley]

Gosh.

[Phil Labonte]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

This is a cgi, bro.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it's. Look at when there's a part where a human's going to come in and it's little.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

It's actually shorter than a human.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe that's why it looks fake. Oh, yeah. Okay. It looks real. Now, see, the robots are going to watch these. These videos, and they're gonna turn on us.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, oh, no way.

[Ian Crossland]

Remember this? It'll show like.

[Tim Pool]

No, get out of here. Okay, hold on. I'm just gonna pause real quick. I'm pretty sure if I actually punch that thing full force, it's falling down.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, you hope so. You're probably right.

[Ian Crossland]

He's kind of pulling his punches.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but, like, if you do a.

[Ian Crossland]

Flying cross into his chest. Look at that.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, that is. That is creepy.

[Ian Crossland]

He's folding himself up.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

For packaging. Wow. Probably £30.

[Phil Labonte]

No, £40.

[Tim Pool]

No. It's got a weapon. Oh, man. Now that's.

[Ian Crossland]

That's kind of.

[Tim Pool]

Look at that. It's threatening us.

[Ian Crossland]

Swinging a bow staff.

[Phil Labonte]

But, I mean, it's not a bunch of them.

[Ian Crossland]

What is this supposed to show?

[Nick Shirley]

Oh, God.

[Ian Crossland]

An army of robots.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not very long until you see, like. I mean, it's going to show you the thing doing some stuff around the house. There you go.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it just shattered a walnut.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not very long until these things are going to be able to do.

[Ian Crossland]

Dishes and, like, who made the mess? And be like, robot, did you make the mess?

[Tim Pool]

Whoa.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm not programmed to clean it yet.

[Tim Pool]

It's cooking. Why is it hitting itself in the finger?

[Phil Labonte]

I think it's just showing the motions that it can do.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, it's soldering, dude.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yo, that's Wild.

[Ian Crossland]

Whoa.

[Tim Pool]

That is crazy.

[Phil Labonte]

You're. You're talking about, you know, a year before these.

[Tim Pool]

I want to fight that robot.

[Phil Labonte]

It's kind of like, I think you'll win.

[Ian Crossland]

It'll have sword. I wonder if it can plunge your toilet. It'll probably be able to, like, build microchips before it will be able to, like, unclog a drain.

[Tim Pool]

We program it to defend itself and then have a sparring match with, like. Like, a bokeh.

[Phil Labonte]

I imagine that's only a couple years.

[Tim Pool]

Away, to be honest. Like, I feel like one hard strike with a bokin would. That thing would explode.

[Ian Crossland]

It would hold pads for you. I bet, though, if you want to do, like, practice roundhouse kicks and stuff. Off kicks.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, that guy punching it was not really punching it.

[Ian Crossland]

No, he was pulling him.

[Tim Pool]

He's like. You ever see that video where the woman, she. She's got the screen protector, and then she grabs the phone, and she just bashes it and shatters it. And then she grabs them with the screen protector and she lightly taps it to, like, show the screen protector is working. Like, we get it, dude. You're not actually trying to break.

[Ian Crossland]

I'd like to see Tyson or Jake Paul. Jake Paul should do it. He should get one and train with it, and that would be, like, the biggest, like, we should Publicity stunt.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it's holding pads. I got an idea. Like, we should buy one and then invite Colby Covington to just throw his strongest punch right in its face. Yeah, dude.

[Nick Shirley]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Boom.

[Ian Crossland]

And ask the robot what it. What it thought after. Are they embedded with AI Mental.

[Tim Pool]

That's.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the thing that I was trying to say is. Is it's not like the functionality of it is now limited only by how intelligent the AI you put in it is, right? So it's like you can program robots to do all sorts of things. Just computer aided machining is all robot stuff. And they can be as, like, incredibly delicate and. And make tiny. Tiny. You know, literally only a couple microns of a. Of a cut. Right? But that's all programmed by. It's all. It's all mapped out early when I. When we were talking about or when I was mentioning agentic AI Once you get an artificial intelligence in the robot that can say, when you say, go do the laundry, and it can go into your room, pick up all your clothes, put them in the. In the hamper, whatever isn't already in the hamper, Take the hamper into the laundry room, put the clothes into the dishwasher into the laundry. Machine into the washing machine, put the, put the detergent in, maybe put the fabric softener in, close the top, set it properly and then turn it on and leave. That's when people will be like, I'll pay 500 bucks a month for that. When you can, when you can tell your robot, go to the grocery store and get these things. And then the robot walks out, gets in the Tesla drives wheels.

[Ian Crossland]

It can drive itself.

[Phil Labonte]

You could do that. But when, if you're talking about, I'm talking about in the suburbs, it goes out and gets in the car. The car drives to the grocery store. Right. Goes inside, buys all the stuff you want, pays for it because you've given it your, your credit card.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Walks out and then gets in the car and brings it back and then brings the stuff in and puts it into the, like loads it into your, your fridge and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Guys, guys, guys. Absolutely.

[Phil Labonte]

Pay 500 bucks in a trip.

[Tim Pool]

We've got breaking news. So this, this broke about a half an hour ago, but there's an update on this. A new wildfire is broken out in Runyon. Runyon Canyon park just north of Hollywood Boulevard. How are these flames are engulfing 10 acres. They've just issued an evacuation order right now. So this is just within the past few minutes. LA Fire Department brush fire, Sunset fire evacuation order. They say what it say? Hollywood hills west. Approximately 10 acres burning between Runyon Canyon and Wattles Park. A mandatory evacuation order is now in place for Laurel Canyon. Bro, I got friends who live up there, man. This is really, this is really terrifying stuff. So I hope everybody's okay. I know people who work here have family up there. This is affecting this, this is going to affect millions of people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

If you're there, get out. Listen to this dude. Get out.

[Nick Shirley]

Why are they like spawning too? Like the.

[Tim Pool]

Because embers are flying through the air.

[Nick Shirley]

Palisades.

[Tim Pool]

90 mile an hour winds rip the embers up. They land on the ground and it goes up.

[Nick Shirley]

And LA is also extremely dense. Like if these flames are gonna keep going and they haven't contained anything, like when will this stop? Like it needs to be rain. Like, everyone better be praying for some rain.

[Ian Crossland]

Sure.

[Tim Pool]

On your right is a new fire. This is the Hollywood Hills.

[Phil Labonte]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

This is the whole location that we were given. 2350 North Solar Drive. That's between Nichols Canyon and Runyon Canyon in the Hollywood. There are a number of homes surrounding that. Chris Christie, are you available to give us some information about this?

[Unknown]

Mark Very concerning site here in the Hollywood Hills. We're Just west of Nichols Canyon, just north of Hollywood Boulevard, where a major fire has just sparked in the last five minutes. We were over the Pacific Palisades. We saw the glow coming from over the hill. And just in the last couple minutes that it took us to get over here to hollow, this thing has exploded in size. You can see northerly winds coming through the canyon here just west of Nichols, just east of Runyon Canyon. And you can see this is all very thick fuel that is fueling this brush fire. LA City Fire is aware of this fire. They have immediately called for the 20 closest trucks to respond out here. However, accessing this fire is going to require more the trucks. They are going to have to get a quick reaction action force over here as soon as possible. Or more likely, LA City Fire choppers over here as soon as possible, depending on what resources are available. But this thing is blowing up before our eyes. It is a very sizable fire that is spreading rapidly. I'm going to try and get some more exact streets here if you bear with me one second. Lucas, pan over to the right. So that's Runyon Canyon Road to the right there. And if we pull out, pull out all the way. So we can just put this into a frame of reference. It's just south of Mulholland Drive. And if we come all the way out, you can see due north of Bonita Avenue and Vista street off of Hollywood Boulevard. So we're talking about a mile and a half north of Hollywood Boulevard that is now on fire. It appears to be all bright at this point. Do not see the closest structure just yet. However, I think there's a house or a group of homes on the north side on the other side of this fire towards Mulholland. We can't see it through the smoke right now, but this appears to be majority brush that is fueling this right now.

[Tim Pool]

Chris, I've hiked Runyon Canyon so many times. I know Mark surely has as well. This, and you mentioned the streets, Bonita and Vista. Those are all the streets that, you know, I take to get to Runyon Canyon. I'm concerned there's a lot of homes there, a lot of apartments, and our fire resources are already stretched so thin. Are you seeing any evidence of any response yet? I know it is dark and I know we're just starting to follow it. Wow, man.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I know a bunch of people who live right by there. That's right by Hollywood and Highland. Oh, yeah, that's like the spot.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

That's like, what, 10 blocks west of Highland. It's like the La Brea.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no, La Brea is a different area.

[Ian Crossland]

No, bro, that's La Brea. Yeah, it's Hollywood La Brea. Like, just northwest.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, I thought you were talking about the La Brea Tar Pits.

[Ian Crossland]

Runyon. So legit. This is. I gotta do the pray for rain thing. I gotta go into my weird. Control the world.

[Tim Pool]

The Iranian.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, it's near the Chinese Theater.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

I imagine if it burns down to the road, it's gonna stop.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Ian Crossland]

So much concrete.

[Tim Pool]

All those trees, all those fire.

[Ian Crossland]

The line.

[Tim Pool]

There's. There's. There. There's a video of one of these buildings burning. And you're looking at metal on fire. And I'm sitting there being like the metal frames are burning. What is. What is burning off that? Is it magnesium or something? That's crazy.

[Nick Shirley]

So you think that was just a little ember that flew and then caught on fire?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's usually what happens when you.

[Nick Shirley]

I mean, the. There was a.90 miles per hour.

[Tim Pool]

There was a fire right now in Jersey, when I lived in Union City, New Jersey, for a while, and a fire, one building, and then two blocks away, a church caught on fire. Because embers from the house went up into the air and then fell down and started the church on fire. Yup. Two blocks away. And there's only two structures that were affected by it. Absolutely insane.

[Ian Crossland]

I did it during the hurricane. I focused energy to calm the wind. Like you. You have a magnetic field. Your body has one, and so does the earth. And lightning is magnetic. Heat is, you know, electronic.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think you want to go down this. This rabbit hole because that means when the fire started, you did nothing.

[Ian Crossland]

I did nothing.

[Tim Pool]

You did nothing. I've just been enjoying.

[Ian Crossland]

I've been playing the bizarre. I've been playing a bunch of video games while the world burns.

[Tim Pool]

You hear this?

[Phil Labonte]

I'm looking at, like. Like the. Like the whiskeys right there. The. The marquee.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. Yup.

[Phil Labonte]

Comedy Store. Like, all these places that, like, we played and.

[Tim Pool]

And.

[Phil Labonte]

And, like, really, really famous places in Hollywood. It's. It's really close to that stuff. And if it does get down to the. The. The roads and stuff, I like it. It's not that there's concrete. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

When people talk about Hollywood, it's Hollywood and Highland. That's where the Walk of Fame is. It's where the. It's where Jimmy Kimmel, I think he's. Yeah, he's basically right there.

[Ian Crossland]

He's at the El Capitan right across the street at The El Capitan Theater.

[Tim Pool]

So. So it's not. It's not where the big Hollywood sign is.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no, that's.

[Tim Pool]

But when people are like, I want to go to Hollywood, like, the walk of fame is. That is Hollywood Boulevard and Hollywood and Highland. It's like you got Ripley's right there. You got all the restaurants, all the little knickknack stores.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's like 15 blocks away from Runyon, roughly. And then there's the Sunset Strip. Just a couple blocks south of Hollywood is Sunset.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, the. The. I'm not sure the exact area that was destroyed in the Palisades, but I. But if this fire does get down into Hollywood, into the. Into the actual, you know, populated areas to the. To the. To where the streets are, you could see a lot of damage really, really fast. They got to be getting as far.

[Ian Crossland]

As I would imagine.

[Tim Pool]

Now.

[Ian Crossland]

The fire trucks are. Are on Franklin, on Hollywood.

[Phil Labonte]

It's in the. It's in the canyon right now. And you can't. Like that. There's no roads that can. That actually lead to it. I don't know how it started, but, like, where it is. It's like. You can look at it. It's in the canyon. So if they're going to be able to get trucks to it, you know, before it gets out of. I mean, it's already probably out of hand, I guess.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Man, this is.

[Phil Labonte]

It's bad.

[Tim Pool]

This is crazy. Hey, Nick Sorter, just north of Hollywood Boulevard.

[Phil Labonte]

It's nuts.

[Nick Shirley]

The only way it will stop is if it rains or if somehow they figure out how to contain it.

[Tim Pool]

The weather.

[Phil Labonte]

Show me.

[Tim Pool]

I want to look dry. That's it.

[Phil Labonte]

Not raining.

[Tim Pool]

Nothing. Sunny and dry for a week.

[Nick Shirley]

I swear, California's got to be cursed or something.

[Phil Labonte]

Doomed. It's. It's the. It is the government's fault, though. Like, this. Is this. All this stuff. Like, fires are natural, and. And there's a lot of. A lot of, you know, plants and stuff like that that have. Over the course of thousands of years, they've evolved to be able to survive this stuff because of the humans in this area. There's. There's. They don't want fires, so they do everything they can to put them out. And it. You just. If you leave the fuel on the ground, it's gonna happen.

[Tim Pool]

Fires are usually small.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

When we stop them and the tinder builds up, you're creating a recipe for it. Well, you're creating a literal tinder box. You got to manage that. You got to go to the Forest floor sweeping. And Trump called them out over this. They wouldn't do. This is years ago. It's like 2019. Trump has this thread where he's like, they're not doing the floor management. They make fun of him for it. So at a certain point, it's just like, what can you do?

[Nick Shirley]

Too late to play defense when they should have been playing offense.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What do you do for people who entertain and enjoy a life that leads to these things and then scream and beg for help? Like, obviously we help them, but, like, there's only so much we can do.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Nick Shirley]

Like, they're gonna be recovering for a very, very long time. I mean, Maui, Hawaii, I was. I went there a few months ago. Still completely destroyed.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick Shirley]

They're not like. Like, nothing has been built in the. The main parts.

[Tim Pool]

Palisades aren't going to come back for decades.

[Nick Shirley]

No.

[Tim Pool]

If. If anything.

[Nick Shirley]

No.

[Tim Pool]

And then land is going to be worth nothing.

[Nick Shirley]

And then on top of all the restrictions they have just to build stuff, all the permits you have to get inside California, like, cooked. They're done.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Nick Shirley]

For a while.

[Tim Pool]

It's crazy.

[Nick Shirley]

You guys think Hollywood's cursed? California's cursed.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, well, I think that good men do nothing and California is turned into this.

[Nick Shirley]

Do you think all this bad, like, all this Hollywood corruption, pedophilia stuff is now coming back to, like, hedonistic development?

[Tim Pool]

I don't think it's supernatural. I think that when you.

[Nick Shirley]

God's coming to chastise them.

[Tim Pool]

No, I don't think it's supernatural at all. When you have evil people ripping apart at the foundations for personal benefit, it falls apart. The collapse is inevitable. When you have, like, Sodom and Gomorrah. Don't need God to smite them. They cannot sustain themselves on the. On their own. Cities of debauchery and degeneracy will fall apart.

[Ian Crossland]

Also. I think that one of them was built on a sulfur mine. And there you learn the hard way. If you light a match over a sulfur mine, there's a big explosion and there goes Gamora or whatever the hell one of those cities. So you build a city in the desert and you rely on imports for water. Well, there you go. I guess they had a river.

[Nick Shirley]

There's just so many things they could have done just years and years ago to prevent something to this level. I mean, you can't stop all forest fires, but to this level, there needs to be something that they should have been able to do. Prevent it, man.

[Tim Pool]

This is done.

[Ian Crossland]

The downside of what was that, that.

[Tim Pool]

So there's a lot they could have done. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

The downside of voting for your candidates and, and having them seeking re election as if they waste so much time trying to raise money and please people. When you, the, the, the upside of authoritarian governments, which is also. I don't like it, is they move very quickly. They can just get masses of slaves together, hordes of people, and command them. You're all doing this now. And if that means you're all digging out the, the sticks, out of the woods in, you know, southwest California, they're going to be doing it. They're going to be building pyramids. They're going to be doing it.

[Phil Labonte]

California has Apple, they've got IBM. They have plenty of tax base in that state to be able to have enough funds to deal with this. They have Hollywood and they have Silicon Valley. There is ample money in taxes that California takes in. They're the ninth largest or something like the ninth largest or fifth largest economy on earth, bigger than like, like 185 of the countries on Earth. So it's not a matter of funding or whether or not.

[Nick Shirley]

And they tax more than any other state in the United States.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly. So it's not a matter of. They can't afford it. They absolutely can afford it. They have the tax base that they need. It's a lack of will. It's. They don't want to just like I.

[Tim Pool]

Was talking, or it's, it's force of will. They want the state to fall apart.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, that could be, but people have been leaving in droves. This is only going to drive more people out. People that have money, that are like, you know, Calabasas. I have a friend that I just texted, he lives in Calabasas. And I was like, yo, you know, how you doing? He's like, things are okay for now, you know, but like, I mean, if you, if you're, if you were up in Calabasas, right, And, and you're like, you're seeing this stuff happening 45 minutes away, 30 minutes away from your house house. Like, why are you gonna stay? There's a lot of people that are just gonna be like, I'm getting out of here, man. I'll sell my house. And they might sell it for a loss. They probably have multiple other homes. But getting out of there is probably going to be on, on the radar of a lot more people because that's already been happening. This, this kind of, this kind of tragedy, this kind of disaster that could have been prevented. There are smart people in Those houses that are going to be like man and it's time to beat it because they're I can't insure my home anymore.

[Tim Pool]

We didn't get into the story but we'll talk about this in the members only. When someone tweeted James woods his home is burning. It's karma. Keith Olbermann said was basically saying good and cheering for this. I'm telling you these people are evil. Okay, we'll talk about that. One of the members only so smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Become a member by going to timcast.com the Uncensored show is where we engage in conversations that are less family friendly. So you put the kids to bed. Instead you go to timcast.com where you download the Tim Cast app. You play that members only show and we get a bit more serious. And not for the kids earmuffs. But you'll also get access to our Discord server where you can hang out with like minded individuals 24 7. The amount of extra content you get as a member is insane. There's a morning coffee show, there's an after after show. There's a pre game show shout out to Roman nation podcast launched the Tim Cass Discord. There is a whole library of extra content that is produced by our community and you guys gotta get invol. So go to timcast.com and join the movement. For now we'll read your super chats. Eric Branson says This is not PG and E territory. This is LA DWP or SoCal Edison.

[Ian Crossland]

Wow. LA DWP or SoCal Edison?

[Tim Pool]

The Department of Water and Power, I think. Is that what it is?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it sounds like it.

[Tim Pool]

Brad. Peter says with everything that's been happening in California for the last decade, I can only conclude these fires are acts of God praying for the victims regardless. You know what man? I do understand why you would feel that way. But I genuinely think there's a strong possibility that people like Newsom know that what they're doing will result in catastrophe. And they want it to happen. Remember when prices were collapsing in New York, Bill de Blasio said he was going to buy up buildings for pennies on the dollar to convert them into public buildings, public housing. These, these communist Democrat types. I'm not saying all Democrats are communists. I'm saying the communists that are masquerading as good American politicians.

[Phil Labonte]

Bill de Blasio is a Commie.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely is. They want to burn down the system and then buy the land for pennies. Now the Palisades is worthless.

[Nick Shirley]

Newsom does not care about his people. And no.

[Ian Crossland]

What does he do?

[Nick Shirley]

Makes a lot of money by funneling money from other organizations that help him buy five million dollar houses in San Francisco.

[Ian Crossland]

Dang.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's see. Church says, tim, don't let up on the mayor. The left went after Ted Cruz during the freeze in Texas because he was on vacation. Yeah, but I think the freeze happened and then he went on vacation. Right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And also, Ted Cruz is a senator. He's not the mayor or the governor. Like, what's the senator supposed to do? Like, a senator doesn't have any power inside of Texas. A senator represents Texas in Washington, D.C. the freeze didn't happen in Washington D.C. so it was just. It was. It was. It was just a. It was only, you know, for looks that they went after Ted Kennedy. The actual stuff that's going on. Yeah, Ted Cruz. I'm sorry, but the actual stuff that's going on in. In California. Like, the mayor and the governor could have done something about this.

[Tim Pool]

Stevie BB says, Did bad religion have it right 20 years ago with Los Angeles is Burning? Maybe. But I will give a shot to Bad Religion for what is one of the best songs ever. You. You guys know that one?

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Those lyrics are epic.

[Ian Crossland]

Should.

[Tim Pool]

Wasn't. Tony Hawk 2 soundtrack correct? Yeah. But I absolutely love the writing in that song. There's a place where everyone can be right. Even though you're made determined to be opposed. Admittance requires no qualifications. It's where everyone has been and everywhere and where everybody goes. So please try not to be impatient for we all hate waiting in line, standing in line. But when the farm is good and bought you'll be there without a thought. Eternity, my friend, is a long time.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, I like that.

[Tim Pool]

It's great. It's brilliant. The place where everyone can be right.

[Ian Crossland]

All one alone. That was Duncan Trussell said the word alone is like the word all one. It's like where everything is all.

[Phil Labonte]

Did you guys know that the. The mayor of Los Angeles cut the fire department by $17.3 million?

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

I didn't know that.

[Tim Pool]

And they sent excess supplies to Ukraine.

[Phil Labonte]

Unbelievable. That's. Yup.

[Tim Pool]

And I wish we got into all of this. Like, this is so much.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe we want to borrow Surgery cast.

[Phil Labonte]

We walk in and Tim's like, man, there's no news tonight.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no, no, I was saying the only news news is the wildfire. So everybody hear. Hear me now. YouTube.com TimCast so my first channel on YouTube, I did a video essay every day at 4pm and then the morning show which is Tim cast news is just like press, go press, record and then talk about the news. The YouTube.com timcast videos at 4pm are more like essays where we bring up all these, all the, all this evidence and everything. We're bringing it back today. We launched the first one. It was a little bit late. One up at five. We're gonna bring them up at 4pm today we went over why the fact checkers were biased, showing actual articles and proof and studies proving that the Facebook fact checkers were biased and targeting conservatives. Tomorrow we're doing a deep dive on the wildfires and how it is quite literally the fault of Democrat politicians. Trump warned them, they gave away equipment to Ukraine. They cut the budget. They refused to hire firefighters because they wanted less white men. This is exactly what we've all been talking about for so long. So had a great tweet. I think it was Cernovich where he said DEI is literally killing people. Yeah, insane. So tomorrow, YouTube.com timcast 4pm the show is coming back. We're bringing back the deep dive essays.

[Ian Crossland]

How's it work? Is it just you on a camera or do you got a team?

[Tim Pool]

Oh cool.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you have two people sourcing info with you or do you.

[Tim Pool]

So when I first did the show it was just me. I did everything. But now we have a great team. And so Lisa Reynolds, who has, has guest hosted culture award. Yeah, she does booking for the show. She's super smart, well connected. She's helping produce the underlying facts and everything. So that way I can do the morning show and then also produce the, the essay breakdown.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, that's cool.

[Tim Pool]

So the way we did it today was she basically wrote a preliminary script and then I just, I read. So it's a mix of me reading but also going off the cuff and adding things to it. So it's like co written by, by us. She launches it, I read it, I add a few stories to it and then we're, we're getting an editor who's going to, to put it all together so that we can get out. It was 18 and a half minutes. The goal is to get a deep dive on all of these big stories with facts and sources. So it's more than just like on my morning show. I kind of just say here's how I feel about things. What I used to have on, on the Timcast was basically like, here's what happened with the fact checkers. Here's what Zuckerberg said, here's what the news said, the fact checkers are claiming that they're not biased. Here's proof from Duke University and like the Missouri University Public Affairs Department proving biased bias. Here's all sides proving bias. Here's the meter, here's the images, here's the evidence, and here's their statement. So that way it's, it's, it's much less opinion and much more deep dive fact on these. Awesome.

[Ian Crossland]

I like seeing things side by side. Like the lie and then the contradiction. Right. Literally next to each other on the screen.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that's one of the things that we. That did at the end of the episode was I showed the two Politico articles. One that says that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary. And then the other Politico article, same company saying the claim that Ukraine interfered was Russian disinformation. Both stories considered true and contradictory. And I'm like, this is it. So right now Lisa's working on pulling up all of that info. A lot of stuff we talked about. But we're going to pull up the videos, we're going to put the documents and we're going to show exactly when they said no more white firefighters, when they said sending Ukraine all the stuff, exactly when they said we're not going to divert water to save the smelt. All of that stuff, breaking it down. And our hope is that we'll get a video up every single day of the week, week, Sunday to Sunday, no stopping.

[Nick Shirley]

Impressive.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Because this is, you know, I used to do it on my own. Now we're going to have a team. So I'll be able to basically record them Monday through Friday and then we'll get extra ones done throughout the week that we can put up on the weekends that are more evergreen.

[Ian Crossland]

Use that, use that chat. GPT to organize. No, you guys organize.

[Tim Pool]

GPT is all fake, dude.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it's pretty surface level.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's be. It's worse than that. And, and look like, honestly, I like Grok and I like GPT. But, but people went into Grock and said did Tim Castell did the Daily Wire. And it was like, yes. And it was just like literally a rumor that wasn't true.

[Ian Crossland]

But Grock, he didn't. Did he sell? No.

[Tim Pool]

You're like, right? And then it would be like he didn't. And you'd be like, but you said he did. It's like, I must have been wrong. And it's like, okay, is there, is there.

[Ian Crossland]

Sorry to interrupt you. Is there a better one than GPT and GROK yet. Have you noticed anything better?

[Tim Pool]

They're both good at different things. Yeah. Let's read some more super chats. We've got this from Samuel Ain says the entire west coast restricts timber harvesting. Doesn't brush roads or make enough slash burns. Doesn't do enough back burns. Won't add firebreaks. Allows dead and down to build up over decades and then blames the climate. We lose jobs in forest here, here. Sounds like a forester. They were talking about a Fox News that there's downed trees and they leave them. Oh, you've got to remove them. Those things burn nuts man. They don't care.

[Phil Labonte]

Send the drones in in California where like they. They dry out so fast because it's such a dry climate. Like. Like it is so ridiculous to leave that stuff. It's so dangerous. Clearly.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All right. What have we here? Common sense. Fishing says I live in California Central Valley. A lot of the issues with the delta, farming and sport fishing, reservoirs, recreation, camping, power creation via dams etc. Better question is why build mega city in a desert? LA already steals all of California's water. Here. Here.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. William Mulholland was one of the guy that redirected all that water from the Owens River Valley in the early 1900s to help create. They named Mulholland Drive after the guy helped create Los Angeles and screwed over a bunch of farmers to do it.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. We got Riley Butts. He says I will accept Canada being adopted by America if Mexico gets California. If there were 51 countries who are reliant on the US for their own independence, they get two votes in the Senate and they get approximately 350 million people. 560 electoral votes. Fair. I don't know. If we brought Canada it would be the 51st state. It would be a collection of states.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And so you'd add a bunch of red states, but it still is dominated by liberals.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Probably annex state by state. If we're going to take. Take. If the country wanted to join us.

[Tim Pool]

We'll keep the red ones in Canada.

[Nick Shirley]

Could they just make them all territories and then not have them just. They wouldn't be.

[Ian Crossland]

That's.

[Tim Pool]

That's too respectful. I'd say we make them colonies subjugated by the American empire.

[Ian Crossland]

We need to negotiate with Emperor Charles because he's the king of Canada right now. The monarchy of Canada. So we'll have to dislodge that somehow.

[Tim Pool]

It's wild how old the queen was. So like now King Charles is the king, but he's also Basically got like a year left to live.

[Ian Crossland]

And then Harry. Harry is the.

[Tim Pool]

No, he was out, isn't he?

[Ian Crossland]

No, his brother William.

[Phil Labonte]

Prince William.

[Ian Crossland]

He's like 30 or 35.

[Phil Labonte]

No, he's in his.

[Tim Pool]

He's probably 40 now.

[Phil Labonte]

Probably pushing 50.

[Tim Pool]

50?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

He's younger than me, I think.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think so, really.

[Ian Crossland]

Anyway, that guy talked to a lady.

[Nick Shirley]

In Canada about becoming the 51st state. And I was like, do you think they'd be able to withstand the United States? She's like, well, you remember what happened to the White House? What happened to the White House? We know where it's at. We know where the White House is at.

[Phil Labonte]

My bad. He's 42.

[Tim Pool]

What does she mean by that?

[Nick Shirley]

I guess at one point. Yeah, I guess at one point the Canadians came down and burned down the White House.

[Tim Pool]

It was British.

[Phil Labonte]

It was the British.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So she, like, we went to Montreal.

[Nick Shirley]

She was also a witch.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay. We were. We were trying to. We were about to conquer Montreal and then they burned on the White House. And we were like, ah, crap. But then in the Mexican American War, I think it was, we actually won and seized half of Mexico. And then Polk was like, I don't want it. And the American people actually wanted to keep it. And they were like, yo, they were pissed.

[Ian Crossland]

Is it because he couldn't defend it?

[Tim Pool]

No. I don't know why.

[Nick Shirley]

I don't get why people are mad about us, like, wanting to expand. I think it'd be pretty cool if we expanded.

[Tim Pool]

It's funny, because the same people who are like, we shouldn't take Greenland are like, we should conquer Ukraine and crush Russia. I'm like, let's not go to war.

[Ian Crossland]

Did you guys see Zelensky interviewed by Lex Friedman?

[Nick Shirley]

Really cool.

[Ian Crossland]

Historic. I didn't watch the whole interview.

[Tim Pool]

I've watched, like, Fredman cooked him.

[Ian Crossland]

Did he?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

Held his feet to the fire.

[Tim Pool]

I heard that.

[Phil Labonte]

I didn't watch it.

[Nick Shirley]

It's actually very good. Like. Like what we're. And we're living in a cool time where we literally have a war going on. And that president is giving a three hour podcast as well.

[Ian Crossland]

Super legit.

[Nick Shirley]

And. Well, Lex did what he. He did it in Ukraine, Russian and English. They spoke between the three. And he had, like, some AI that made the voices sound literally exactly the same for when it switched and whatnot.

[Tim Pool]

Except it was very robotic.

[Nick Shirley]

It was. When Lex talked, it was very.

[Tim Pool]

Lex talked. That's Lex. That's.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nick Shirley]

But it's also.

[Tim Pool]

It was a little bit more than normal.

[Ian Crossland]

He criticized the AI. He was like, it didn't capture the way we felt when we were talking, but it's effective enough.

[Nick Shirley]

You don't feel all the Ukrainians were so mad at Lexerman for wanting to the interview in Russia when he's just trying to do it in the most way where they could express themselves in.

[Phil Labonte]

The Ukrainians are very touchy right now.

[Nick Shirley]

When I went to Ukraine and I posted a video after, I, I like, I think I had like the whole entire Ukrainian country come after me.

[Phil Labonte]

They're. Yeah, they're very sensitive.

[Nick Shirley]

It's sad.

[Ian Crossland]

What was the video?

[Nick Shirley]

Well, I did a full documentary on it and then I also did a video where I walked around Keev and I show like these nice parts of Kyiv and I was like, this is where your taxes are going. There's like BMWs and Teslas and like the Ferris wheel and people got really mad.

[Tim Pool]

What time of year did you go last?

[Nick Shirley]

Like four or five months ago.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay. So like fall.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah. And I mean it's really, really sad.

[Tim Pool]

My Dan.

[Nick Shirley]

No, I just went to Kiev. Busha.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, My den is in Kiev.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah, probably like, I can't remember.

[Tim Pool]

Big glass slide. The mall where it's like they said that big.

[Nick Shirley]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I went down there.

[Tim Pool]

I'm pretty sure some dudes tried to slide down it and they like shattered their spines. What the. Yeah, it's like, it's like a mall in, in my Dan square in Kiev and it's like this steep glass and there's a video of some dudes like we're going to slide down it and then you hear it, hear the crunch and like what are you thinking, dude? It was like three stories.

[Nick Shirley]

Whoa.

[Phil Labonte]

God.

[Ian Crossland]

Like straight down.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Let me see. I'm. I'll play on the members only.

[Ian Crossland]

Shut up.

[Nick Shirley]

KE was an interesting place and you'd think like people would be very skeptical about talking about the war, but everyone was. I found it very like willing.

[Ian Crossland]

Were they just exhausted on the war in Ken? Yeah.

[Nick Shirley]

And it's sad because like there'd be eight girls and one guy. Like all like the young men my age are at war. And so I thought it was actually cool in that Lex Freeman interview when Zelensky is talking like, yes, like we will work on something with Trump because I mean there's gonna get to a point where Russia is gonna have no more middle aged men or teenagers to go out and fight. And I mean Ukraine's already like, already pulling in women. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And 50 year olds.

[Nick Shirley]

I mean, the only people, like, I obviously saw their teenagers and whatnot, but there's also so many people my age walking around with like one leg.

[Ian Crossland]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Russia's bringing in North Koreans and they're bringing in Houthis.

[Phil Labonte]

So are they bringing Houthis too?

[Tim Pool]

Fact check me on that one. I thought. I'm pretty sure. I thought they were bringing in Houthis, but I could be wrong about that.

[Ian Crossland]

Where are they from?

[Tim Pool]

Yemen.

[Phil Labonte]

Yemen.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, let me get a fact check on that one.

[Phil Labonte]

Checking right now.

[Nick Shirley]

Something also interesting about the people in Ukraine.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Russia recruits Yemeni mercenaries to fight in Ukraine.

[Phil Labonte]

Russia reportedly using Yemeni fighters recruited through a company linked to the Houthi rebels. And to fight Ukraine.

[Tim Pool]

Wild.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Nick Shirley]

Oh, I was saying, like with.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, they were. They were. According to multiple reports, how many men were lured to Russia with promises of a lucrative job and Russian citizenship, only to be coerced into signing military contracts they could not read and sent to fight on the front lines in Ukraine?

[Tim Pool]

Oh my. Wild.

[Phil Labonte]

Rough.

[Nick Shirley]

Wow, that is rough.

[Phil Labonte]

Never trust the Russians, man.

[Ian Crossland]

You knew Germany was really losing the war when Hitler started drafting 64 year olds. I think he raised the draft aged up to 64. There's like 14 year olds. I don't know if it was that pretty. Pretty sure it was super, super young and 64 year old. But that was like when the Russians were entering Germany and the Allied forces were entering germ. Western France and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Let's grab this one. You've got Mike zero source says. Tim, did you catch Benny Johnson's videos about homeless people starting fires all over la? I didn't, but we did mention that the other night. We had a story from only a week ago in Bakersfield in California, homeless people were setting record amounts of fires. Here we are. I kind of feel like it's. It's very probable that homeless people started these fires.

[Nick Shirley]

And they got propane tanks too. When you go into these homeless encampments, a lot of these people are. Have propane tanks and they just start fires out in the street.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, conspiracy theory. Illegally entered the country, militant age men from some foreign hostile country. Maybe they're even Russian, who knows? They co. They colluded to light a bunch of fires over the course of two days in Los Angeles when it's dry and they wanted it in Runyon.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, the economic damage is tremendous.

[Ian Crossland]

Huge. And they don't have to do anything. They just light the spark and walk away.

[Tim Pool]

It's crazy. Well, to be fair, like the humidity is at 0.78 like record low humidity or something. Was it? And we got Karen Basser. What are you talking about? We got multiple wildfires. That aerial footage of Los Angeles. Let's pull it up.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, good. Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, man, look, it's spreading.

[Nick Shirley]

Are those little ones? Are those also fires right there?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick Shirley]

Holy.

[Tim Pool]

Can't hear you, bro.

[Ian Crossland]

90 saying it's 90 mile an hour winds. Search is saying. What is that like high up or like down near the ground?

[Tim Pool]

They're flying in a plane.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I mean the winds. Are the winds high up or are they not?

[Tim Pool]

It's on the ground. It's blowing the fire.

[Phil Labonte]

Really?

[Ian Crossland]

And the fires contributing to the speed of the wind because of the heat?

[Nick Shirley]

No.

[Ian Crossland]

You sure? Yes, because it was doing that in the firestorms in Germany. I mean, nuclear bombs will cause cause massive gusts of wind.

[Phil Labonte]

The Santa Ana winds, they're an annual thing.

[Ian Crossland]

They.

[Phil Labonte]

It's crazy windy this time of year out there.

[Tim Pool]

100 mile an hour in Altadena or in. In La Canada. That's crazy, man. I got, I got a lot of friends who live down there.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

It's like a hurricane.

[Tim Pool]

100 mile an hour.

[Ian Crossland]

What's a hurricane?

[Tim Pool]

That's right, it is. They're calling it hurricane force winds.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And it's crazy because, you know, I lived in LA for a couple years and so like Hollywood is not nice. People should understand, you know, like broke people like to live in and around Hollywood.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Palisades is wealthy and you're not. I think Santa Monica is rent controlled, so I knew a lot of young people who had like rent controlled apartments.

[Ian Crossland]

That's nice. Beautiful.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Venice. I lived in Venice, just south of Santa Monica. Kind of scummy, but super nice.

[Tim Pool]

Venice is super scummy.

[Ian Crossland]

Homeless people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

I lived there when they made it law that the homeless people could no longer sleep on the beach in their campers and then pull them all out.

[Tim Pool]

When was that?

[Ian Crossland]

Like 2000? 20. 10.

[Tim Pool]

Really? Yeah, that's when I was, I was, I was there on that and everybody was. Oh, nine.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, it was awesome. It was kind of cool that they were in the campers.

[Tim Pool]

Showers. Yeah, there's public showers right there. And it's not like, it's not like bathing showers, it's. It's beach showers. So it's like, it's a, it's a. There's like a brick structure with like pipes that come out and it's just totally open to the public. You walk up and press the thing and it sprays you with water. You're not like going in a booth or anything?

[Ian Crossland]

I thought it was nice because I was like, well, if there's any homeless people, this is a good place for them to be. But they were like, they're just harassing.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude. Bloods and the Crips were there every day at the skate park.

[Phil Labonte]

Ktla. The. The station might have to evacuate.

[Ian Crossland]

Whoa, where's that?

[Phil Labonte]

In la?

[Ian Crossland]

Do you know where it's located? In the city?

[Phil Labonte]

In Hollywood.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, geez. Ktla.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. All right. Citizen seven says, Tim. I spent a few years in Scotland as a preteen. Not a single power line in sight in the sky. Everything was underground and the view of the sky was pristine.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, where was that?

[Tim Pool]

In Scotland? Oh, dang.

[Phil Labonte]

Which, I mean, you know, depending on where it is, it make. It's possible for. For some things.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, let's start getting real quick.

[Tim Pool]

Gunface says California passed a law that says insurers must provide insurance for high risk areas with price controls. That's why they pulled out of California.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, they pulled out of California, Totally. Which makes perfect sense. You know, price.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude, we pulled out of California. And that's not a joke.

[Ian Crossland]

Zuckerberg just pulled out of California.

[Tim Pool]

Tim Cass does not contract anyone or hire anybody who lives in California because the. The laws are so insanely oppressive that we just have nothing to do with it. And I think California still tried coming after us for some reason. And we're like, we don't do any business in California at all. None.

[Ian Crossland]

Mines. We did that with mines too. We had issues with California. It was weird. They had. Zuckerberg just moved the headquarter and now he's moving Facebook headquarters from Palo Alto to. I think it was Palo Alto to Texas.

[Tim Pool]

The whole headquarters.

[Ian Crossland]

He's moving. Yeah, I think that's what he says. Moving the headquarters to Texas.

[Tim Pool]

I thought he said the moderation team.

[Ian Crossland]

I think he said that.

[Tim Pool]

I think he said the headquarters because he was hired. They, they, they passed this thing about you can't contract people anymore. Un. Like, it's like after a certain amount of contracted, like jobs gigs they do, they have to be given a full time position. So we just immediately were like, we will no longer work with anyone out of California.

[Ian Crossland]

And the gig economy was flourishing at.

[Tim Pool]

That time when they made stupid law, I think sports. What was that? Was it. SB Nation was a Vox company and they fired like 200 writers because they were like, dude, we don't have staff writers. People sell us stories and we'll pay them for it. And they're like, nah, you gotta hire them full time.

[Nick Shirley]

And it's like, why they make business so impossible to do there?

[Tim Pool]

Because they burn. They want to burn it all down. Like, here's the thing. Imagine you make birdhouses right in your garage. And then you come to me, you're like, hey, you want to buy a birdhouse? I'm like, like, sure, I'm about birdhouse from you. California goes, whoa, whoa, whoa. You have to hire him as an employee. And you're like, what? What? What? I only want a birdhouse. Yeah, well, you're buying a bird house once a month. And I'm like, I know. I like bird houses. And, like, as an employee now, okay, sorry, dude, I can't buy bird houses from you anymore. I'm not hiring you as an employee. And that's basically what they did. And that was. It was funny because the Democrats were the ones who pushed that. The unions did, because the unions were like, the gig economy is destroying the unions. And then all of these liberals lost their jobs because of it. Sorry. You know, you reap what you sow.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's grab. We'll grab one more here. Let's see. What do we got? We'll grab this here. What does this say, Alex? Lulo says, one thing people forget to notice is that the president talked to us for a lengthy address and we understood him. That's a good point.

[Ian Crossland]

Am I Biden or Trump?

[Tim Pool]

Trump, My friends, if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that, like, button? Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with everyone you know. And more importantly, if you go to YouTube.com timcast We've got a I got my morning show 10am, 1pm, 3pm, 6pm and now we are relaunching the original Tim cast show. That is my original video essays that break down the big stories of the day. I used to do it every single day. Then I launched the morning show, and then I decided just to move everything to the morning show and make the Tim Cast channel the culture war. But now the culture war is bigger, and I felt like we needed, you know, doing these video essays with a team and getting. Getting more production and an editor on board. I'm like, we can produce a video every day, seven days a week, deep diving on all these issues, and it's more evergreen and it gets into the root of these cultural issues. And then we'll do the culture war on Friday. So go to YouTube.com timcast subscribe to that channel, and check out the latest video we Put up breaking down Zuckerberg's fact checking thing. And then tomorrow we're gonna deep dive into how the wildfires were literally the fault of Democrats. You can follow me on X and Instagram Imcast. Don't forget right now, become a [e-mail] by going to timcast.com clicking join us Members only show is coming up in about a minute and we are gonna take your calls as members. It's gonna be a lot of fun, my friend. Do you wanna shout anything out?

[Nick Shirley]

Nick Shirley on everything. Thank you so much for having me on.

[Ian Crossland]

Nick Shirley with two Y's on X.

[Nick Shirley]

On X. And when you're gonna subscribe Nick Shirley on YouTube. I'm going to Greenland on Monday. We're gonna go talk to the people in Greenland.

[Ian Crossland]

What are you gonna talk about?

[Nick Shirley]

About becoming part of America. See what they want to say.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, love it.

[Nick Shirley]

I see what they gotta say.

[Tim Pool]

Where you got a Flying from Canada, fly to Newfoundland and then fly to Greenland or something.

[Nick Shirley]

Fly to Iceland and then from Iceland.

[Tim Pool]

Iceland.

[Nick Shirley]

There's only two places that you can either come in. Going from Copenhagen or from Iceland.

[Tim Pool]

Ah. You spend any time in Iceland?

[Nick Shirley]

No, I'm just gonna spend four days in Greenland. Go hang out the people down there.

[Tim Pool]

Give yourself a day in Reykjavik, man. It's fun.

[Nick Shirley]

Yeah, we'll see what happens. It's going to be interesting. We.

[Tim Pool]

Right on.

[Nick Shirley]

I mean, I think it'd be a good idea if they became part of the United States.

[Tim Pool]

I agree.

[Nick Shirley]

And I mean if we can. If we can give billions of dollars to Ukraine, I think we could give a billion dollars to Greenland and each citizen would get around $17,000. I think they'd probably be stoked.

[Phil Labonte]

Do 5 billion and everybody gets grand. I go ahead, Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, well, follow me at Ian Crossland. It's good to be back. Good to be here. Thanks, Phil. Catch you later.

[Tim Pool]

Bye, everyone.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil. That remains on Twix where you can subscribe to my page. I'm Phil. That remains official on Instagram. The band is all that remains. And we have a out January 31st. So go to Spotify and go ahead and pre save it. You want to check out some of the singles on the record? You can check out Forever cold, let you go, no Tomorrow or divine on YouTube, Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and Deezer. And don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you all [e-mail] in about one minute. Thanks for hanging out.