Leftist DEATH THREATS Force America250 CANCELATIONS w/ Lisa Reynolds

Summary

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Episode: Leftist DEATH THREATS Force America250 CANCELATIONS w/ Lisa Reynolds
Date: May 30, 2026
Guests: Lisa Reynolds, Tate Brown, Ian Crossland
Theme: The episode explores the recent cancellations of the America250/Freedom Fest concert acts amid reports of leftist threats, the resulting climate of fear, cultural division in the U.S., political violence, and broader social and philosophical issues.

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Episode Overview

Tim Pool and the Timcast IRL crew, joined by Lisa Reynolds, discuss the wave of artist cancellations at the upcoming America250 festival. The discussion hinges on the role of threats, primarily from far-left activists, in intimidating performers and undermining patriotic celebrations. The episode delves into whether political violence is curbing free expression, the decline of American traditions, shifting cultural sentiments, and the broader implications for the nation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. America250/Freedom Fest Cancellations

• Topic: Multiple artists (Martina McBride, The Commodores, Bret Michaels, Morris Day and the Time, Young MC) pull out from America250 Freedom Fest.
• Context: The festival was planned as a patriotic, bipartisan event in Washington DC, but devolved into controversy after the announcement of Trump’s backing.
• Main Points:
  • Reports, especially from Bret Michaels’ team, confirm threats and death threats influenced artists’ decisions.
  • Tim stresses these are not just “vibe shifts” or reputational concerns, but credible, escalating threats of violence (07:07, 08:46).
  • Lisa emphasizes the legitimate fear: “Their fears are legitimate. Every other day there’s another assassination attempt or somebody shooting at the White House…They don’t think these people won’t follow through on their death threats” (08:46).
  • Ongoing cancellations signal a breakdown in cultural cohesion and the rise of political violence as a deterrent.

2. The Role of Political Violence and Cultural Intimidation

• Division of blame/authority: Pool insists, “Regular people in this country…don’t fear a fascist Donald Trump. They fear leftist terrorists. And that’s why we are seeing cancellations” (02:06).
• Discussion: The panel debates whether local law enforcement, federal authorities, or Trump himself fail to address the environment of leftist impunity.
• Lisa: Local Democratic authorities are complicit by instructing police to “stand down.” Federal government can’t or won’t intervene (12:46).
• Tate: “The right has no real cultural power. Famous figures never fear right-wing backlash for supporting Democrats, but the left wields fear as a weapon—no permission needed to be a liberal, permission required to be conservative” (13:41, 14:27).

3. Vibe Shift vs. Real Danger

• Tate’s take: Suggests some artists may simply view support for Trump as “out of vogue,” but Tim and Lisa refute it’s only vibes: “Did they get any actual artists worth listening to? I don’t know…But the fact is, it's death threats” (18:18, 23:32).
• Tim: “There is zero reality where artists who were booked and paid went, ‘A lot of people don’t like Trump, I shouldn’t perform.’ The reality is they got messages saying bad things will happen to you” (18:29).
• Exchange: The group deconstructs whether "vibe shift" or credible threats are primarily responsible, ultimately highlighting that fear for safety is the key driver for these abrupt withdrawals (23:32, 24:01).

4. The Decline of American Traditions and Social Cohesion

• Loss of community culture: Tim laments how formerly American events (Fourth of July, Taste of Chicago) no longer resonate; cities like Chicago abandon their traditions due to demographic and ideological shifts (30:15).
• Illustrative anecdote: “Now it’s just novelty. Fourth of July in Chicago…We used to have the Taste of Chicago…now it’s gone. The city is no longer American” (31:10).
• Millennials & Gen X: Festivals are pitched at older generations; younger people see less attachment to national symbols and holidays (11:04–11:33).
• Cultural demobilization: Tate: “Everything…feels so weird now. We’re unable to mobilize as a culture…in the U.S. the number one thing that’s uncool is to care about something. Being a serious person makes you a pariah” (35:30).

5. Technological, Demographic, and Philosophical Trends

• Libraries, AI, and decline in agency:
  • Fun debate about whether libraries still serve a purpose in the age of AI and online info (48:02–50:05).
  • Lisa: 52% of Philadelphia is functionally illiterate, so whatever voting improvement is attempted, basic skills are lacking (42:33).
  • On AI and UBI: “We already have ubi…Most will use AI for entertainment, a minority for productivity. We’re headed to a future of demoralized, passive consumers” (54:59–58:51).
  • Neuralink/future tech: Tim jokingly predicts most of humanity will opt into neural immersive entertainment rather than productive life (56:03).

6. Immigration and Cultural Change

• Immigration as a demographic transformation: Tim likens canceled American traditions to the influx of immigrants changing city culture and voting patterns.
  • Analogy: “One day Tim Cast hires a bunch of H1Bs…all vote for Impossible Burger…our tradition is gone. That’s what’s happening in cities” (32:29).
• Panel jokes: On solving migration by making Guatemala a U.S. state or bombing non-paying countries (130:06).

7. Historical Legacy, Monarchy, and Social Traditions

• Debate on IQ, voting, monarchy: The panel speculates about intelligence tests for voting, elective monarchy, and alternative governmental structures (38:51–46:26).
• Inbreeding, genealogy, cousin marriage: Entertaining but philosophical digression about family lineage, cousin marriage, and historical norms (89:02–100:57).

8. Notable News Moment—James Talarico Controversy

• Topic: Texas Democrat James Talarico’s resurfaced tweets of midnight chats with a 13-year-old student; context of grooming and claims of Christian faith for political gain.
• Quote (Lisa): “He has the face…You can just tell. They all have the face. This is creepy. First of all, the guy looked like a creep” (109:04).
• Panel consensus: The public nature of the tweet is bewildering; Talarico is now under heavy scrutiny, seen as a “dead man walking” in Texas politics (110:49–112:02).

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On danger facing artists:
  “Regular people…don’t fear a fascist Donald Trump. They fear leftist terrorists. And that’s why we are seeing cancellations.” — Tim Pool (02:06)

• Lisa on left-wing threats:
  “Their fears are legitimate…every other day there’s another assassination attempt or someone shooting at the White House…they don’t think these people won’t follow through on their death threats because that’s what’s been happening.” (08:46)

• Tate on cultural power:
  “The right has no real cultural power…there’s no, like, conservative artists for [left-wing performers] to fear. No one needs permission to be liberal, but you need permission to be conservative.” (13:41)

• Tim on vibe change vs. real threat:
  “There is zero reality where artists who were booked and paid went, ‘A lot of people don’t like Trump, I shouldn’t perform.’ The reality is they got messages saying bad things will happen to you.” (18:29)

• On the meaning of American holidays:
  “Chicago doesn’t even have the Fourth of July anymore…because the city is no longer American. The people changed, the traditions are gone.” — Tim Pool (31:10)

• On inability to mobilize culture:
  “We’re unable to mobilize as a culture in the U.S. because the only thing that’s uncool is to care about something.” — Tate Brown (35:30)

• On American decline:
  “I agree…unless we have some crusades to come back, we’re done.” — Lisa Reynolds (114:08)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:06 — Tim Pool: First in-depth discussion on America250 cancellations, “five out of nine” acts dropped, leftist threats, and death threats.
• 07:07 — Tim Pool: Reads Variety report confirming Bret Michaels canceled over threats.
• 08:46 — Lisa Reynolds: “Their fears are legitimate…”
• 13:41 — Tate Brown: Cultural power discussion.
• 18:29 — Tim Pool: “There is zero reality where artists who were booked and paid went, ‘people don’t like Trump…’”
• 23:32–24:01 — Lisa and Tim drive home: death threats, not just perception, are the real motivator.
• 30:15 — Tim bemoans the death of American traditions in cities.
• 35:30 — Tate: “We’re unable to mobilize as a culture.”
• 54:59 — Tim: “The future... everyone’s taking the buyout… 80% will primarily use it [AI] for entertainment.”
• 109:04–112:44 — Lisa and panel on Democratic candidate Talarico texting minors, his political positioning, and the backlash.
• 114:03+ — Lisa: “Unless we have some crusades to come back, we’re done”; reflections on brutality, tradition, and preserving nationhood.

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TONE & FORMAT

• Tone: Open, sometimes humorous, sometimes dire. The panel expresses both frustration and resignation toward current events, mingled with biting wit and candid political analysis.
• Panelists frequently joke, segue into historical or philosophical asides (monarchy, IQ tests, cousin marriage), and mock the culture’s loss of seriousness and ritual.

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Closing

This episode of Timcast IRL offers a gripping, if at times playful, exploration of how political extremism and social fragmentation threaten to unravel American civic and cultural life, using the America250 festival controversy as a case study. From death threats to demographic shifts in cities, the episode paints a portrait of a society that has lost faith in its own traditions and authorities, with few signs of reversing course—unless, as Lisa suggests, a national crusade brings back the "brutality" and unity of a former age.

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Notable Quotes for Quick Reference:

• “If you support Trump, Trump can do nothing for you. If you support Trump, the left will threaten to murder you and you will have to live constantly looking over your shoulder.” (18:18)
• “We’re unable to mobilize as a culture…because the only thing that’s uncool is to care about something.” (35:30)
• “Unless we have some crusades to come back, we’re done.” (114:03)

Transcript

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[Tim Pool]

So far, five out of nine artists who are set to perform for the Freedom 250 Fest have canceled. I'm hearing that it may actually be six at this point, but not sure. We do have five confirmed artists canceling now. We don't exactly know why they would agree to do the America254th of July Festival and then abruptly cancel. Right when it was announced that they were gonna be performing. They're saying, you know, we, we thought it was gonna be patriotic, but now it's divisive. That is, we didn't know until Bret Michaels came out and said his crew, they are getting death threats. I think it's pretty obvious what happened. All of these artists who agreed to perform said this will be great, great opportunity. The moment it was announced they'd be performing, they probably started getting a lot of death threats and just general threats to their businesses and their livelihoods. And so they said, we are out and they're canceling. Now. It's not just this degree of threats of violence threatening the America 2:50. We talked quite a bit about the Newark Ice Riots and how one of the, one of the staffers there deferred federal authority to far left terrorists. And I'm just like, guys, gotta understand what time it is and what it, it appears the Trump administration is or is not capable of doing in dealing with the division and the threats of violence. You gotta ask yourself what a regular person in this country fears the most. And the truth is they don't fear a fascist Donald Trump. They fear leftist terrorists. And that's why we are seeing cancellations. That's why we are seeing these struggles. Now we're talk about that and a bunch more before we get started, my friends. Go to cast brew.com and buy some delicious and amazing Cast Brew coffee. You can of course get the Ian's Graphene Dream K cups. You can get vault black cold brew concentrate pool water by the bottle and a bunch of other coffees are available to all of you guys. It's a beautiful Friday. Don't forget to smash that like, button. Share the show with everyone. You know, we've got some stuff to talk about as to why we're doing the show the way we're doing it right now. And I'll, and I'll give you. I'll let everybody do a quick intros and then we'll give you an update. But we're being joined tonight by Lisa Reynolds.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Hi, guys, nice to be back. Thanks for having me, Tim. Sorry that I'm your guest.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, it's your fault.

[Lisa Reynolds]

It is my fault.

[Tim Pool]

You're responsible for booking, so.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I am responsible for booking and I

[Tim Pool]

feel so there's actually big news that I think will be interesting to a lot of people and we'll explain in a second, but we got the boys hanging out.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I'M just excited. I haven't been on a panel with Lisa before, so I'm great.

[Tim Pool]

I'm glad you down Lisa, because I'm very thankful.

[Tate Brown]

This is one of my favorite people on planet Earth.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, you guys are made for each other. I felt like you've already. Guys have already worked together. Feels like.

[Tate Brown]

I feel like I'm like her Adawan in some way.

[Lisa Reynolds]

You're like. Like a. Like a younger brother or something to me.

[Ian Crossland]

You've seen her work. You've seen him. Him go the distance.

[Tim Pool]

And Ian. Ian is slowly turning into a cowboy, I guess.

[Ian Crossland]

Howdy. You're right.

[Tim Pool]

I was thinking more like a scarecrow. You should get a Canadian tuxedo. You should wear.

[Ian Crossland]

You should wear that Canadian tux. I want to go horseback.

[Tim Pool]

You know, Canadian tuxedos. Right.

[Ian Crossland]

But I'm going to look it up.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'll take you riding.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm down. Let's go 100%.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'll take you.

[Tim Pool]

So we're going to get into the news. We want to talk about this American Carter Banks. Oh, yeah, what's up? But I. I'll just give a quick. A quick update and announcement on what happened. Actually, maybe I can just pull up the. The old tweet here as to why we don't have. And so I can just read for you the exact statement. And it is. It is this canceled. This morning, my lawyers received notice pertaining to Dr. Turtle Boy and risk of legal exposure if we host him. The notice is attached under advisement of counsel. We will not host him on Tim cast IRL and must advise. Do not follow Dr. Turtle Boy on X. Do not read or listen to what he is saying. Do not pursue his website. This is Aiden Kearney. We were informed that he has put out defamatory statements for which he's facing legal action. The letter is available on X. We were threatened that we. We are. We have a great risk of legal exposure. I spoke with my legal counsel. They said essentially we cannot have him on the show. I. Guys, there's a lot of people who are upset saying, why would you do this? We have lawyers for a reason. And, you know, they said we can't have him on the show because of apparently what is in this letter. You can read the letter for yourself. So I will just stress one more time, as, as I understand it, the things that Aiden Kearney has said are dangerous and should not be heard by anyone. So do not follow him or read what he is saying.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Don't make up your mind for yourself on who the bad guys are in the situation.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. You just don't listen to it. It's. It's information you should not hear. It's things you should not hear. Don't listen to it. I will not be involved in whatever this is. So I will just tell you, you know, just don't, don't read, don't follow, don't do any of that.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm glad. I have nothing to do with Aiden Kearney.

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[Ian Crossland]

I was just being. Okay.

[Lisa Reynolds]

You said that in such a. I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

I haven't.

[Tate Brown]

I immediately. I immediately made sure not to check out his website. I certainly made sure not to check his Twitter or read anything. That is the last thing I would do. And I would say for Emily. Audience, please, please, please, please do not go to his handle and check him out and follow.

[Tim Pool]

Don't do it. No. Because he's dangerous. Don't do it. You guys are all acting. No, I'm serious. You should not read any of this stuff. Let's talk about the news. We've got this from Variety. Bret Michaels is fifth act to pull out of Freedom250 in D.C. citing threats and safety concerns as Trump backed shows evolved into something divisive. I just want to stress there should be a d. It should be devolved into something divisive. Yeah. As if to imply the evolution. Something divisive is like the planned or forward moving. Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Positive thing maybe.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So we have this, this image post by the Democrats as they laugh about it. Martina McBride canceled. Young Mc canceled. The Commodore is canceled. Bret Michaels canceled. Morris Day and the Time canceled. So far Vanilla Ice and Flow Rider are the only confirmed. I believe they said they would. They would still do it. Milli Vanilli. It's actually only Milli because Vanilli died. It's just one of them, I guess, you know. So there was like two guys a long time ago and CC Music Factory. We're not sure if they're to be performing. But I want to stress this. The left is sending death threats to these people and the Democrats are celebrating it.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Of course.

[Tim Pool]

I have been saying this all week. The Democratic Party is broke, the donors are funding terrorism and Republicans are funding elections. This is completely in line with what we've been seeing with the riots, with the threats against Erica Kirk. I gotta say, it looks like coming into these midterms we are not going to see guys in suits handing out flyers because they're not funding it. We are going to see people with keffiyahs throwing Molotov cocktails This is exactly what's been happening for the past several years.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And it's, their fears are legitimate. Look how many, like every other day there's another assassination attempt or somebody shooting at the White House, right? Like, it's not like they don't think that these people will follow through on their death threats because that's what's been happening.

[Tate Brown]

Well, there's kind of something interesting happening here in regards to these cancellations is like just one year ago, Martina McBride would have been proud to perform something like this. Jackson Dart would have been not controversial at all if he chose to, you know, speak at a Trump rally. But a year later, again, things have changed. You know, everyone, you know, preemptively declared woke is dead. And you know, this is a new era and everything. But one year later, look, we're, we're not quite at like first term levels of tbs.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I disagree with the Jackson Dart thing. I don't think a year ago they were, they were still getting significant pushback and a couple people were brave enough to like last through it. But I definitely could still been there.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, it would have been, I don't think it would have been like, just as like ripping through the headlines like it did this time. And we, I mean, we even saw like a lot of different athletes and musicians that would certainly not be considered political whatsoever that were endorsing Trump or at least, you know, speaking at his rally. I mean, I went to his rally in the Bronx and they had Sleepy Hollow. I mean, I know he was fishing for a pardon, but he was speaking there. If he did that now, it'd be a much bigger sport.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Look at how much Tony Hinchcliffe got backlash. I mean, granted for some of his jokes, but I thought, I mean, they were funny, but like, think how many other people. But for just even showing up. I mean, like, we were definitely having.

[Tate Brown]

He's the only one we know that was there. I mean, there was a lot of comedians and a lot of famous figures that were at that rally, but only Tony Hinchcliffe was picked out cause of the joke. But I'm just saying if that happened now, everyone would be on the chopping block. It would be like Jackson Dart on steroids.

[Tim Pool]

This is the issue. If you support Trump, Trump can do nothing for you. If you support Trump, the left will threaten to murder you and you will have to live constantly looking over your shoulder. This is why even. Look, let's be real. Did they get any actual artists worth listening to? I don't know.

[Ian Crossland]

CNC, Music Factory was big in 1989, 40 years ago.

[Tim Pool]

I haven't heard of these. Yeah, no, but, but understanding this too. 90 the artists they got, they're targeting this demographic, they're targeting older folks, they're targeting 60 year olds who are going to come to DC.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, well, gen Gen X and some millennials is what it looks like. Because like I said, millennials, I mean the Commodore. Yeah, I'm a millennial. And like I was just telling Music Factory was the first CD I ever had because my grandfather bought it for me. But like that was.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, but like cuz millennial, I'm Gen X. But you're.

[Tim Pool]

What was the first CD you bought?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Bone Thugs and Harmony, I think. First of the month.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. Maybe they should like. The point is they're targeting Gen Xers a little bit older than you because the, the music that resonates with the generation is the stuff that they were into with their friends. That's why if you go to restaurants, you'll always.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I wasn't into any of these.

[Tim Pool]

You'll like right now the music they play at restaurants tends to be like late millennial to Gen X or music. That's who's got the money, that's who's showing up to buy food.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

But my point is, for a regular person, Donald Trump provides no protection. So if you're a high profile artist, they say, do you want to perform for the President at this big D.C. thing? They're going to say, I'm going to get paid a little bit of money and then someone's going to try to murder my family. No, I won't do it.

[Ian Crossland]

Trump is.

[Tim Pool]

My point is we are in a cultural environment where most people fear the authority of Antifa and they do not fear the authority of Donald Trump. Trump will not arrest you. Trump will not stop you. Trump will not invoke the Insurrection Act. Trump will not send police to stop what you're doing. The feds will not arrest you. They will do nothing. Antifa will beat you to death. So at that Newark ICE facility, we saw that video where the staffer fans Antifa over and, and lets them search federal vehicles. Tell me, who has the authority over ICE right now? Is it the extremists who are being deferred to to search vehicles or is the president who can't stop them from doing it?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Hmm.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't want to depends on situation. A lot of times they'll just defer to the mob, unfortunately. But then later they'll find all those people that were in that mob and get them. I mean, that's what they.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I think that. I think that, you know, they're fielding a lot of these. Like, I think that the far. The left is way more psychotic and unhinged than even what we're seeing. Right. Like, we know this because we've been kind of living with it for a really long time, but, like, the rest of the people haven't. And. And I don't think that you can even have that many resources to go after all these people. I guess you could, but I don't know. Like, they just, like, you know, they show up randomly all the time and, like, they didn't get any trouble. It's really their. It's like the local law enforcement, too, is. Is a bigger part of the problem. I wouldn't say just Trump. I would say, like, local law enforcement. These Democratic cities. Like, yeah, if you're. If you're in Philly, no, nobody's gonna. They're gonna tell them to stand down or. Or, yeah, Seattle. I think it's more local law enforcement that isn't gonna do anything. But you are right in that they never get punished. And so.

[Tate Brown]

And I think it shows that, like, to the. Any cultural cachet that the right had around the 2024, where the right has no real, like, cultural power at a macro level, as far as, like, pop culture goes. Because, you know, when Megan the Stallion was going and performing at a Kamala rally, do you think it ever occurred to her once, oh, what if the right gets really upset at this? And, like, no, it never did.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Because we don't act like that.

[Tate Brown]

Well, because we don't act like that, but also because there's no, like, conservative artists for them.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, anybody that thinks of themselves, in my opinion, on the. As a leftist or a rightist is kind of queer. Like, dude, that's not cool. You're not able to be, like, you're not cool. It's kind of what you're. You're not cool to put yourself in a box.

[Tim Pool]

That's not cool. That works.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't mean I'm a far right authoritarian person.

[Tate Brown]

Like, well, I think it's more that

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'm in a box.

[Tate Brown]

I think it's more that you don't need permission to be a liberal, but you need permission to live or endorse conservative candidates. Insofar as in 2024, the dam kind of broke to the point where people felt comfortable supporting President Trump. People that maybe were secretly. Because you're seeing this play out Right now, Angeles, where like you're seeing people like, there's rumors that, you know, DiCaprio is actually liking Pratt. But since no one in the press is giving a permission piece to allow you to support Spencer Pratt, they just can't do it. We're in 2024. That dam did break.

[Tim Pool]

This is why I am not optimistic about, you know, long term prospects in this country. Because Antifa operates with impunity and people fear Antifa. If there was an Antifa. Listen, you're walking down the street and there's Alex Brucewicz on your right and there's Antifa on your left. And Bruce Awitz says, ian, do me a favor, don't, don't walk this way because we're setting something up and we're going to be painting right here. And then Antifa says, if you walk anywhere near me, I'll bash your face in.

[Ian Crossland]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

You're going to be like, sorry, Alex, I don't get my face bashed.

[Ian Crossland]

Reasonable to be concerned or fear street thugs at all levels. I think it's reasonable, but that's what we are.

[Tim Pool]

And in fact, what's happening is Donald Trump's on one side of the street, Antifa is on the other side. And we're going, Mr. President, can you stop this person from threatening me? And he goes, you know, I will. Busy in Iran.

[Ian Crossland]

Point I wanted to make earlier. It feels like Trump took his base and threw him under the bus. Maybe during the Epstein thing when he was like, you're all wrong, it was a big lie anyway, look the other direction. And like he's like, he used people to get into office and then he discarded them. And I don't feel it seems like he just doesn't. I mean, he did pardon, you know, Ross Ulbricht, but like, I don't know, like he got, he got what he needed out of people, he used them as jet fuel and now he's out.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't feel that way and I really don't feel like, I don't think that it's the federal government's responsibility to police these people in their, in these cities. These cities are run by Democrat activists themselves. And so they're not going to sic their police force. I don't think it comes top down.

[Tate Brown]

And I mean, like, I don't know, maybe this makes me a bit of a contrarian here, but I'm not even entirely buying that these people are ultimately afraid of like potential leftist violence. I just think the vibe has shifted in this country where again, it is not in Vogue to support Trump right now. And these people ultimately do. They are at the behest of perception. They're. They're audience controlled, their audience captured. They're listening to their friends, to their management companies.

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, I think I disagree.

[Tate Brown]

Martina.

[Lisa Reynolds]

It's about threat.

[Tate Brown]

Hang on, let me finish real quick. Is Martina McBride literally performed the theme song for Sean Hannity show like she is someone that has been comfortable supporting.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah. And she still is, which is why

[Tim Pool]

it's not a vibe change.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So it's absolutely the death threats.

[Tate Brown]

No, it's the death threats rating has never been lower. Again, the TDS is back in a large way. It wasn't this way a year ago. The TDS was not at the level it is. That is right.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but. But what? Your. Your point only can exist with.

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[Tate Brown]

No, I think my point exists because I think Martina McBride, where she would have something to gain from it a year ago. She has nothing to gain from it now. She's like, what? I'm just going to wade into a controversy.

[Tim Pool]

There is zero reality where art who were booked and paid went. You know, a lot of people don't like Trump. I shouldn't perform.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, I don't.

[Tim Pool]

The reality is they got messages saying bad things will happen to you. And they were like, I don't want to be involved.

[Tate Brown]

I think, I think that's part of it. But I think the majority is. They just don't think there's anything to gain from participating.

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, I Think it's controversial.

[Tate Brown]

That's why they're not endorsing Spencer Pratt. That's why Trump is like losing out.

[Tim Pool]

It's because the left has been going around with impunity for a decade beating

[Lisa Reynolds]

people with crowbars and now they're, they're getting shot at. At the White House correspondent center. There's another shooting the other day. There's this shooting, that shooting, and they're like, I'm getting death threats. And these threats are leg. Because of what?

[Tim Pool]

In the chat right now, someone just posted the guy who had a house with the Trump decorations was beaten to death.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I know. I'm not denying that that's a thing.

[Tim Pool]

That's the vibe change you're talking about. You will die.

[Tate Brown]

I think these people, I think a lot of people can justify it by saying they're worried about leftist violence, but I think a lot of them are just not comfortable supporting Trump right now.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think that Trump's been in a state of.

[Tim Pool]

Why are they not comfortable supporting Trump?

[Ian Crossland]

Because he's.

[Tate Brown]

Because it's not in vogue. Because controversial. It's going to make you look bad. It's embarrassing for a lot of these people.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think when, when you are a performer and you're weighing whether or not you unperform, you're going, well, we are getting death threats, but who cares about that? I'm more concerned about looking bad, saying

[Tate Brown]

that's, I'm saying that's a component of

[Tim Pool]

it, but that's the component. That, that is the prerequisite.

[Tate Brown]

But I'm saying even if there is like zero death threats whatsoever, I think a lot of people would still be pulling out. They think it's like, what is there to gain?

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe two reasons. One is like a political movement to have a bunch of musicians come because you're basically saying, I'm part of the party now and like, you're a musician, you know, you're an artist.

[Tim Pool]

These people were booked, confirmed, they're getting paid. What changed in the last month?

[Tate Brown]

The Democrat media machine has made America 250 into the right wing chud.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They all canceled the moment the announcement went out. So the vibe changed, happened in that one day?

[Tate Brown]

No, the vibe.

[Tim Pool]

The death threats came in and I

[Tate Brown]

changed around the beginning of the year where again, it became in vogue again, TDS became.

[Tim Pool]

So why didn't they cancel sporadically throughout the past six months? Why did they all cancel? Just when, when they were announced?

[Tate Brown]

Is America to Organization was a bipartisan sort of thing. It was seen as neutral. And then as soon as these people started clocking that, it's the perception in the media and the perception among the American public is that America 250.

[Tim Pool]

I asked you a question.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

That's.

[Tim Pool]

Why did they all cancel the same day?

[Tate Brown]

Because that's when the media. The media machine has been fired up and they are all announced and they got heat for it, and they said, no, I don't want to participate.

[Tim Pool]

So if it really was a vibe change, wouldn't it have happened sporadically and unrelated to each other?

[Tate Brown]

Well, again, it's. This is. People weren't talking about America 250 in, like, February, but that's when this sort of shift started to happen.

[Tim Pool]

When it happened and when the shift was happening and the approval ratings been going down for several months, these people would have dropped off one by one and never have been announced in the first place.

[Tate Brown]

Because I think the. The perception of America 250, there was zero discussion around it. There was zero discourse around it. And then now that it's being talked about right now, and now the general perception among the public, the general perception among the media is that America 250 is like basically a Republican rally. They don't want to participate in it.

[Tim Pool]

So why did. So that vibe change just happened in one day?

[Tate Brown]

No, what I'm saying is that America no. 1 is talking.

[Tim Pool]

They all canceled yesterday, and all of these cancellations were yesterday. They have the same.

[Ian Crossland]

Are they using management? Is there a management company that books these guys? So maybe the management company sent it to all the artists?

[Tim Pool]

Like, no, all the artists said, when we were pitched this, we thought, this is cool. The day they announced the artists, they all said, you know what? We've decided this is too divisive. Yeah. So what happened is the flyer gets released. They get waves of death threats and say, this is. This is crazy. I don't want to do this.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, again, I'm not downplaying that the death threats are playing a role in this, but I'm saying primarily right now, if you are a musical artist, you just have zero to gain from participating in this. That is just true. And these people are cowards. Ultimately. These people don't, like, they're not trying to be political people. They're not trying to take. You think of, like, do you think the Commodores care about, like, you know, doing the right thing here? No. They're reacting to incentive structures. And right now it is super. Is a massive disadvantage to be a Trump supporter right now there's zero question about half the right and the media hates you.

[Ian Crossland]

That's because Trump's been like, I think

[Tim Pool]

it's kind of been the case for 10 years.

[Lisa Reynolds]

He's.

[Tate Brown]

Well, that's my point is there's always been an attack. So Trump. So a lot of these right wingers are not participating.

[Tim Pool]

The argument that there was a shallow blip five months ago where all these people thought it was beneficial to support Trump.

[Tate Brown]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And it was like, for 10 years, you can't support Trump. Trump is evil. And there was this brief window of a few weeks where they booked all these people, where it was like, actually, Trump's okay now. And then Trump became evil again.

[Tate Brown]

No, what I'm saying is going to the 2024 campaign and into the first year of his campaign, Trump did have a better perception among the American public because they were exhausted after the Biden administration. They hated Biden and Trump. It was cool to support him for a while. Like, again, Rogan that.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That entire getting cooler NFL players are doing his dance. And I agree with some of that.

[Tate Brown]

So the culture, there was a shift. There was a vibe shift. And what I'm saying is when America250 was initially being booked, it was not perceived as a partizan event. When it was being booked out, the pitch was to all these people, and the America250 organization is still a nonpartisan entity. They were all saying, oh, well, this is like a wholesome Chungus July 4th event. And then now, as the media machine is fired up, they're saying, well, this is basically a Republican right wing parade. If you're participating in that and you're the commodore, you're like, well, I don't want to. What's the.

[Lisa Reynolds]

What is there to get that. I can see what you're saying, but I think that's the secondary motivation. And the primary motivation being because what's more serious, your life or your reputation? Right. At that point? So I think the primary motivation is the death threats and the legitimacy of the death threats, because we've been seeing legitimate action taken. Right. With the things that I mentioned before. And then the secondary event is like, okay, yeah, well, it's popular right now.

[Tim Pool]

It is the death threats 100%. And the proof is in the Milli Vanilli. Milli Vanilli doesn't have a vibe check to ride on. These are all 1989, 1990, old school, washed up people with nothing to show for it. With all due respect to Vanilla Ice, when was his last single?

[Tate Brown]

No these 1991 people are all washed. This is a pathetic.

[Tim Pool]

So there is absolutely something to gain for deciding to. Look, if you have zero and your career is over and Trump comes up and says, well, I can do one thing for you. I can give you access to my base. We've got 60 million people that will love you and buy your albums. You've got. You've got no album sales now. How would you feel to perform for 60? And they said, okay, the point is, if this was Sabrina Carpenter, Beyonce, and they were canceling, I'd agree with you. These are people who are like, this is bad for our sales. These people don't have sales.

[Tate Brown]

No, I think. I think it's the other way around. I think the fact that these are the only people that would agree to it in the first place indicates how dire things had gotten.

[Tim Pool]

Agreed. So why are they now canceling? It's not vibes, it's death.

[Tate Brown]

It's because it's like, it is just a toxic environment to participate in if you're a musician. It's actually the other way around where people that are washed up like this, they're extremely sensitive.

[Tim Pool]

Ian, would you perform?

[Ian Crossland]

You know, I thought about it. I don't. I don't know. I don't want to perform for Trump. I would perform for the American people.

[Tim Pool]

But, yeah, it's a Nonpartisan Freedom Fest 4th of July celebration. Would you play there if they asked you?

[Ian Crossland]

Fuck yeah, dude.

[Tim Pool]

I would. The point is this.

[Tate Brown]

That was the initial.

[Tim Pool]

All of the people who are booked are washed up, lesser known. They don't have to worry about. They don't have sales. They don't do concerts. They're not doing stadiums and arenas. If it was a band that sold arenas and they said the vibe right now is Trump is unpopular and we don't want to risk our business by aligning ourselves with one side. We cut our business in half. These are people who don't have a business.

[Tate Brown]

That's why it's even more dire for them. Because again, Vanilla Ice has no. Like, the average American doesn't really have

[Tim Pool]

a percentage, I gotta say. Cause you're not addressing what I'm saying. I think he has.

[Tate Brown]

I am. I am.

[Tim Pool]

If you are Vanilla Ice, you have zero sales. I know your opportunity is to at least gain half of the market. Why would you turn that down?

[Tate Brown]

No, it's the other way around. It's the fact that there is zero perception of who Vanilla ice is in 2020 cares about him. So again, this is when.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he's still playing, by the way. He's a bad.

[Tate Brown]

No, I'm just saying for these people, this will now be the perception of them in the American zeitgeist. Oh, well, that's the guy that I hadn't heard from for 40 years and all of a sudden he re emerges and he's participating Trump rally new Kid Rock.

[Tim Pool]

But, but hold on.

[Tate Brown]

There's a new Kid Rock.

[Tim Pool]

Milli Vanilli is never coming back. It's just Millie, there's, there's never going to be a circumstance where he's brought into Hollywood and they say, Millie, you're the best. We're selling your album now platinum. We're gonna put you in a movie. It's not going to happen. So if you are a washed up has been. If you are someone who had a single 40 years ago and they're like, this is your chance to actually perform for a large audience again, what would say, what would make you say no to that again? Like your point about a vibe shift would imply they exist in the cultural zeitgeist, but they don't.

[Ian Crossland]

I think the vibe shift happened over the last four months, two months and even three, four. Whenever you said the media, I think

[Tate Brown]

it happened on the ice protest and

[Ian Crossland]

then it erupted in assassination attempts, shootings and now threats because of the vibe checks. So you're right that a vibe check did happen and you're right that the threats are the reason these people are canceling.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, wait, I gotta give a shout out to someone in chat. There is a vash says Milli Vanilli will just blame it on the rain. Can you imagine if they don't cancel? But then the 4th of July it rains and they were like, due to rain, we won't be performing.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Dude, here's a question.

[Tim Pool]

We live in a simulation.

[Lisa Reynolds]

If that happens, I have a broader question because the threats have escalated. Do you think that anybody will show up now? You know that the, the base will would show up to this, right? You know, like the, the base MAGA crowd would normally show up, but with all the death threats, like the people that I know are, that are older than they were certainly what, six years ago, eight years ago. I don't think that, I don't think that they're willing to go and show up even at these events because look at what happened at the White House correspondents real quick.

[Ian Crossland]

They actually may fight either because drone bombs, who knows?

[Tim Pool]

I don't actually. Guys, they actually have a weather forecast

[Ian Crossland]

for July already and I feel like change the weather.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's not going to rain on the floor of July. I'm just saying it's pretty weird that I can look up July 31st weather

[Tate Brown]

like farmers Almanac's been doing that for decades.

[Lisa Reynolds]

But really, Tim, do you think that, like, they're going to have a good turnout for this anyway because of the political violence that we've been seeing?

[Tim Pool]

They're not going to have a good turnout for it because it's been mismanaged and we're not going to be there.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I don't want to.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think the moment that Tim cast crew said we won't be at this festival, I knew no one would go because we are the top Drew.

[Tate Brown]

Well, that's true. That's very true.

[Tim Pool]

We're not going because nothing's happening. And a month ago we were trying to figure out what our plans for the Fourth of July are, and we're talking about going to the World Series of Poker. There's a, there's a lot going on out there and there's a lot of high profile individuals we could have on the show as well as sports coverage for my participation. And I said, yeah, but I would rather be at the Fourth of July in D.C. than go and, you know, play the World Series of Poker. I mean, so then we checked the calendar and all the scheduling and they're not doing anything.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So this event they're talking about, music isn't for the Fourth of July. It's June 25th to July 10th. So what's happening on the Fourth of July? Nothing. There's gonna be, there's gonna be fireworks and there's going to be like people in D.C. but when we reached out saying, are there gonna be shows? Is there gonna be some kind of big event? There is not. And I said, okay, well then do

[Lisa Reynolds]

you think that's being due to. Due to violence? Like.

[Tim Pool]

No, I think it's mismanagement. I think first of all, the fact, I mean, listen, why isn't Kid Rock on here? They say, no.

[Ian Crossland]

Good point.

[Tim Pool]

Where is Young?

[Tate Brown]

Because. No, because again, this was a bipartisan non political entity that put this thing together. They're not going to see Music Factory.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Bo.

[Tate Brown]

These are the only people they could find and this is rock they could get. And this is derivative from a derivative from my larger point that I've had around America 250 is, I think a lot of people on the right assume or they'd like to think that the reason why no one in America cares about America 250 right now is because of the left or because of political violence. The reality is our country has just changed dramatically, and people just don't have interest in, like, patriotic events anymore. That's the reality of the situation. Like July 4th. No one is celebrating the independence of the United States. They're just like, oh, it's fun. I can drink.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Chicago canceled it. And then, yeah, Chicago doesn't do the Fourth of July anymore. But did they cancel a few years ago? And I'll tell you this, like Donald Trump, if he does not succeed, America is gone. And I want to. I want to explain because a nation is its people, and its people are diminished. So I'll give you an example. I went to the Christmas festival in Chicago. We go every year. And I remember, you know, when I was a kid, and you go there, basically, they have a bunch of little German kind of, like Bavarian shops and stuff like this. And you can get der waffles. And they have. Every year they have custom mugs. And so my wife really loves it. She goes every year. The past few years we've gone, it's been largely Indians. I'm not saying Indian in his bearing way, or to single out, like, H1B's. No, like, literally, you can no longer walk in the Christmas fest. It's shoulder to shoulder with nobody moving, jammed, trying to squeeze through. And it's largely Indians and a lot of Chinese.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I was wondering myself, I'm like, man, like, when I was a kid, it was. It wasn't like, all white or anything, but. But it wasn't super crowded. And you'd go there, and it was Christmas and there's a Christmas tree and it was Christian. Now it's not Christian anymore. Now it's just novelty 4th of July in Chicago. We used to have the Taste of Chicago. Every. Every Fourth of July weekend, they would set up booths all across, like, Grant Park, Millennium park, and you'd buy tickets. With tickets, you could get various food items. They're kind of small because it was the Taste of Chicago. So they had all these different kinds of foods you can eat. Then they'd have fireworks over the lake. And it was. It was grand, and everybody wanted to be there. They no longer have the Taste of Chicago, and they no longer do the Fourth of July fireworks anymore. And you know why? It's actually pretty obvious. Because the city is no longer American. It's really, really simple. The city votes for a. For a mayor. The mayor says, I was elected by a bunch of communists, and communists don't like America. And there's not Enough American, red blooded, you know, freedom loving people. It's really, really simple. Right now, everyone in this room, we all vote. Should we, you know, have cheeseburgers for lunch? And we all like cheeseburgers. So we all say yes. Then begins the tradition of Tim Cast Friday, cheeseburger day. And we all love it. Every Friday we all get cheeseburgers and we celebrate.

[Ian Crossland]

Enter the Hindus.

[Tim Pool]

One day, Tim Cast hires a bunch of H1Bs. And then we're sitting in this room and we say, well, it's Friday. Sounds like it's hamburger day. Now, there's currently five of us here, but then we hired six H1Bs from India and they go, actually, we do not want to eat beef. We would like to have Impossible Burger. And then they all vote. And then we go, impossible Burger wins. I guess we're not going to do our tradition anymore. And then we're all bummed out being like, man, remember how great it was. We had the great tradition of cheeseburgers. That's what's happening across all of our cities. That's why Chicago doesn't have a fourth of July anymore. That's why no one cares about going to the fourth of July. And that's why even this nonpartisan whatever organization didn't organize a fourth of July event. I don't think they organized a two week long festival where on the fourth of July there are no special events planned.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, like this is. This is a problem broadly with American culture is that it's just dissolved. I mean, the bicentennial, I wasn't alive, obviously, but everyone that was has said the bicentennial was.

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[Tate Brown]

Like, it was a big thing. Everyone was very aware of it. You had documentaries, wall to wall coverage covering all these great American moments, et cetera, et cetera. Well, did, like what did the left, just like, you know, discard American patriots. No, the. The country, by and large, dissolved. And the Republican Party was a junior partner in this entire operation. And the evidence for this is it's not just America250 that people don't care about the World Cups this summer in the United States. And you could say, well, that's communism. Soccer, who cares? The World cup was here in 1992. Everyone was obsessed with it. It was a very big event. It was a really big deal. And Americans did not care about soccer at all in the 90s, at least now, like, I don't know, maybe a quarter of the country cares. So the fact that the World Cup's coming, no one cares. America 250 is coming, no one cares. Everyone will say the same thing. Christmas doesn't feel like Christmas anymore. Well, Thanksgiving doesn't feel like Thanksgiving anymore. Why does the super bowl feel so weird now? Everything. We're unable to mobilize as a culture in the United States anymore because to Tim's point, everyone is deracinated. Everyone is nihilistic. Just no one can, like, work up the courage to care about anything anymore. Because right now, the only thing in the United States that is uncool. Like, the number one thing that is uncool to do in the United States right now is to care about something. Being a serious person that cares about things is. It makes you. It makes you a pariah. Like it is. It is deeply uncool to be serious and to care about things. That is just absolutely true. That's why we are unable to mobilize.

[Tim Pool]

You care.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, I. Well, I mean, I care, but if

[Ian Crossland]

you care about the wrong things, like the left right shit is like, that's not good to care about. That's like. It shows that you're at a lower level of what's happening on Earth. If you're like, they're bad.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Anybody under 100 IQ. I'm not.

[Ian Crossland]

There's a geopolitical economic. There's a geopolitical economic coup in mandatory baseball in flow right now, but possibly. And if you're not focused on the geopolitical economic coup that's coming out of Switzerland, then that's the problem. Like, you should be caring about technocracy.

[Tate Brown]

No, that's cool to care about. I think that's. I think. I think it's the other way around. Is that people. The only thing people. The only thing that people do care about is things that are completely out of their control. And then the things that people are ambivalent on are things that are fully within their control. Actually on the right. The primary problem is everyone is, like, committed to taking down a pedophile, Davos controlled cabal. And they're like, totally missing, you know, the forest for the trees, where it's like, there's actually things that are well within our range that we can control. And people are completely ambivalent towards these things. They don't care at all. And the only things they really do care about are, like, things in the total abstract.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I got an idea. Uniforms. We should have uniforms at Tim Cast. And they're American flag shirts, dude.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I kind of.

[Tim Pool]

And. And every. Every. Every morning, the first job everyone has to do is play a game of football.

[Tate Brown]

We should do the pledge of Pledge

[Lisa Reynolds]

of Allegiance every morning, Huddle up and pray. Do the Pledge of Allegiance all the time. And I do, like, outfits just on American flags. They can American flag on them, but they've got to be clear.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Because it's a violation of flag code to wear the flag. Really?

[Tate Brown]

I mean, like the last Olympics, no one cared. I mean, everything that used to, like, be important, that people cared about American culture is just unable to mobilize when people watched it. But it wasn't like the 08 Olympics where everyone was talking about, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Tim Pool]

I got better. Instead of a pledge allegiance to the flag. I've never been a big fan of pledging allegiance to the flag. I just. The whole thing was weird to me. Like, if they said we. We stayed up. We like if when we were kids, we stood up and we said, you know, so actually we actually did sing My Country Tis of thee. Yeah, that was fine. And what's that other one where it's like, oh, beautiful for beautiful, gracious guys?

[Ian Crossland]

Something like that. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. For Amber. Yeah, those were fun singing, but looking at the flag and being like, that flag is what I'm. No, no, no.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Like, we're talking about when they say the flag, you. It's like, I get it.

[Tim Pool]

But how about this?

[Ian Crossland]

It's supposed to be the.

[Tim Pool]

Instead of pledging allegiance, we pledge disdain to the pride. Pride. Progress. Flag.

[Ian Crossland]

Flag.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I will say I don't like the Constitution either.

[Tim Pool]

So, like, there's such a thing as a Constitution.

[Ian Crossland]

I pledge allegiance to the Bill of Rights, but not to the flag itself, because if the government goes evil, I'm not going to.

[Tim Pool]

No, you don't.

[Tate Brown]

America. America because of its people.

[Tim Pool]

There's no Constitution. And it's funny how conservatives get really mad when I bring this up. Free speech, you know, you don't you don't. You don't believe in free speech?

[Ian Crossland]

I do believe in free speech. No you don't, or I wouldn't be doing.

[Tim Pool]

Do you believe the founding fathers were correct on the first Amendment? Yeah. You would be in prison with everything you've said about Jews and Christianity if you agree with the founding father.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, but I wouldn't have said this.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I agree with the founding.

[Tim Pool]

I would have amalgamated to what blasphemy was illegal.

[Tate Brown]

The, the primary reason why America became so successful is because the initial stock of people was like 120 IQ.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That's because everybody.

[Tate Brown]

And the evidence, and the evidence and the evidence for this is the fact that like New Zealand, Australia, Canada, vastly different government systems than ours, but they're also like immensely successful. Nice places up.

[Tim Pool]

Well, how do you explain the people changed? How do you explain that the Australians were just a bunch of criminals?

[Tate Brown]

You know, they were literally like the worst stock of Anglos and they still produced a really country. And that's just like 100% true, by the way.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I just think that like we really bastardized whatever the Constitution was supposed to be with the 17th amendment, with anybody other than people. I think you should have an IQ test to vote and it's gotta be above 115.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the problem with IQ test is that like there's a bunch of different. Let me put it this way. MENSA is supposed to be high IQ people, right? But if you're good at solving a puzzle, does it mean you can really comprehend foreign policy and domestic policy? It doesn't. You might be really good at solving a math problem very quickly. But. And that might make your true.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I mean, that's true. However they did, they did like instead before, instead of SAT scores and stuff, they did like admit people and take job applications for people with higher IQs. And it was actually very productive, very successful. Their true representation of how they.

[Tim Pool]

I'll put it this way, an intelligence test, but not an IQ test. IQ tests are subjective and they're based on an average. So 100 is just the average of all of the people who've taken the test or something that, you know. So that's why IQ changes. The, the funny thing is I was reading how they had to change the, the baseline for retardation because they were like, what was it, like 8. Anything below 80 is retarded. And they were like, that's actually large swaths of the, the global population.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

They're not all retards.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Not even global population. City population sense.

[Tate Brown]

That's like the entirety, and I'm not even trying to be mean, that's like literally the entirety of Haiti.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, wait, so you're saying if most society gets smarter but you stay the same, your IQ goes down.

[Tate Brown]

Because now so IQs have actually so

[Tim Pool]

age, age is a factor. So if you are like a seven year old who has the average, who, whose IQ is comparable to the 15 year old, they're like, oh, your IQ is 140. Oh, but if you're, if you then do not develop from there, your IQ just goes down as you get older. The other thing is 100 is an average, meaning it's based on everybody who's taking the test. What is the average intelligence will be 100. So if so arguably also when you're

[Lisa Reynolds]

taking them when you're young too, kids don't like totally take it seriously or try hard or pay attention or they're distracted. The problem, people's IQ. If you take an IQ test at 17, you can take the IQ test now at 44 and it would be two drastically different numbers.

[Tim Pool]

But here's the thing into the test. I mean one of the components of IQ is like spatial reasoning. And that's where they'll show you. It'll look like a cross and they'll say take this image and fold it into a cube. And then you know which, like, then they ask you which side they, they, there's, there's a few things sequencing.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Like they'll show you different pictures and you're supposed to know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, and it'll be like, it'll be a cube with a dot in it and it'll be a cube with two dots and a cube with three dots and you're like four dots. But then they'll rotate and they'll flip. But the ability to do that does not matter. If the question is something like should women vote?

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, they shouldn't.

[Tim Pool]

But my point ultimately is that is a very, very deep philosophical and moral conundrum. And your ability to track patterns has very little to do with whether or not you have the knowledge and wisdom to understand the behaviors of women. The point ultimately is this. Certainly women, which is wild. Your ability to solve puzzles and do math is good. There's other elements of iq. It's a quotient. There's reading comprehension and things of that nature. But if we were to, if we were to ask someone to solve a series of visual puzzles and they score really high, then you ask them about, you know, abortion and they have no idea and they have all propaganda and bad like their, their understanding of abortion is completely wrong. They're going to vote improperly. So IQ doesn't solve for this problem.

[Ian Crossland]

I think the hope is that IQ will let you learn more data rapidly that you don't necessarily agree with.

[Lisa Reynolds]

There just has to be a different system. Letting everybody vote is literacy is better literacy. They're like, like I told you before, 52% of Philadelphia is functionally illiterate.

[Tim Pool]

We solve. Listen, listen. You want to solve the problem, not an IQ test. You can only all votes are writing from now on. That solves all of the problems.

[Lisa Reynolds]

What if it's no spelling errors?

[Tim Pool]

No spelling errors. If you're trying to vote for Obama and you put Obama, then I'm sorry, that's one vote for Obama.

[Lisa Reynolds]

You've got all those lefty women that are like all in college and all brainwashed and they will definitely spell things

[Tim Pool]

correctly and be hyper aware and that's allowed. But guess what?

[Lisa Reynolds]

If women should just not be allowed.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

The reason why Democrats would lose is because if you had to name your candidate Democrats cannot. Republicans in general, both Democrat, Republican or otherwise, vote based on party. But I guarantee you there are more Republican voters who can name the candidate they want and why they want them than Democrats who can name the candidate they want for.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I think that's true for vice president down.

[Tate Brown]

They've done, they've done everything. They've done studies on this where like on the whole there's a negligible IQ difference between Republicans and Democrats, but you can go through like cross tabs and that sort of thing. And that's where you do see some differences where Republicans typically have about a two point advantage as far as verbal IQ goes. And that's reflected in how effective Republicans are at like talk radio, podcasting, etc, etc. That is just something they're more receptive to. But like both parties especially the Democrats have a much larger coalition of like IQ variation. I would say the Democrats actually more extreme where they probably have the highest IQ and the lowest iq. People in the same.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Oh, I gotta test well. Mental illness. Yeah, mental illness. You've ever taken ssri? If you've anxiety, depression, here's the problem. You're out.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the problem.

[Ian Crossland]

That's weed too.

[Tim Pool]

They will, they will will if they will take you by force and they will tell you you're 5150 and you can never vote again.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't care.

[Tim Pool]

No, right. So, so which, which political faction is more willing to falsely accuse the other of mental illness to Stop them from voting.

[Lisa Reynolds]

They are to us. But still.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed.

[Ian Crossland]

I think we need to do deep fake tests. Where you got. You watch three videos and you're like, which one is the deep fake? Or you have to watch five and if you can identify the deep fake,

[Tim Pool]

having to name the candidate you want to vote for.

[Ian Crossland]

No, it's not safe to write it

[Lisa Reynolds]

in having a king, this would solve

[Tate Brown]

all these problems if they had a crazy king.

[Tim Pool]

It wouldn't. Because what would happen is the king would have a son who's retarded and Muslim.

[Lisa Reynolds]

You wouldn't have to. You would have it like, kind of like like the Romans did. You don't have it necessarily.

[Tim Pool]

King. And then when he dies, you reelect a new one.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, like a. What do they call those things?

[Tim Pool]

An elected monarchy.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yes. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well you could have what they call anarchy. Means single, single authority. An elected monarch means they serve till they die.

[Ian Crossland]

There's one thing where you can do. Where you have an emperor that appoints the king.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I like that too because what's his face. Wasn't going to appoint their own kids. And you should just say you can't have your kids.

[Ian Crossland]

You could have an elective monarchy. But those get, they get.

[Tim Pool]

I think the idea is if you

[Lisa Reynolds]

fighting each other instead of after you,

[Tim Pool]

you hold office, you get exiled to the island.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I like, I want no lobby. I want so much.

[Tim Pool]

Like say what?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Somebody has all authority.

[Tim Pool]

An island?

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, they hold all the power already.

[Tate Brown]

The United States does. And I guess we have Guantanamo. But we need like a separate penal colony because like The British had St Helena and they exiled Napoleon there after they defeated him. Like that have been awesome to stick Maduro on an island with like Cuba.

[Tim Pool]

Let's take Cuba and turn it into a penal colony.

[Tate Brown]

I think that'd be nice and that'd be great. And then you can do this if you just have five misdemeanors. Because it's like, okay, the average person might pick up a misdemeanor at some point, but if you have five, that indicates you have extremely anti social behavior. But we can't necessarily justify throwing you in federal prison. So we should just exile you.

[Tim Pool]

Now here's what we do. Here's what we do.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And country.

[Tim Pool]

So there's petty infractions, misdemeanors, felonies. So the way we do it is if you get three felonies, you're exiled.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Can we cut your hand?

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, Cut your hand. Pay casino Handmaiden's tale so here's how it works.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Cut the handmaiden's tail.

[Tim Pool]

If you get three petty offenses, those count as one misdemeanor. So a petty offense is like not returning a library book or jaywalking. If you do three of those, you get one. It counts towards one misdemeanor. If you get one misdemeanor, it's a misdemeanor. You get one felon, it's felony. So if you get three misdemeanors, those count as a felony. So that means nine misdemeanors and you're exiled. And that would mean that what, what is, what is the math in this one? So three times, three times nine.

[Ian Crossland]

27.

[Tim Pool]

27 petty offenses and you're exiled permanently.

[Tate Brown]

We need like the Palantir punch card. You jaywalk five, exile the Cuba, you know, we gotta have to.

[Tim Pool]

It's like your ID has like a bunch of holes in the bottom and the cop just punches a hole and

[Tate Brown]

says, oh, one more, I'm done.

[Tim Pool]

I don't, don't worry. When you get exiled, you get a free yogurt on the way out.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm not chaotic, but I'm on the side of chaos when it comes to like obsessive order. I read the chat, you're trying to read, but just do the volume down.

[Tim Pool]

If you, if you, if you check out 27 books from the library and don't return them, you get life in prison. That's evil.

[Tate Brown]

That is evil, not returning a library. I'm sorry, I do, but it takes.

[Tim Pool]

Have you guys been to a library recently? No.

[Tate Brown]

It's horrible.

[Tim Pool]

It's just, it's blockbuster. They have movies. The library here in Winchester, you walk in, they have a movie section. It's amazing.

[Tate Brown]

Every library I've gone to in the last five years. Besides like, you know, your big main one in your city is just for homeless people to jerk off at the computers. That is the primary function of a brutal.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I go to a very small neighborhood, one where it's there that there's no riff raff like that there. Although they do like, you know, the queer pride stuff. And my brother always like attacks whoever is.

[Tim Pool]

We should get rid of libraries.

[Ian Crossland]

I used to go check out the. The library.

[Tim Pool]

What are libraries for? You know, you commie.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'm not a commie. I just like.

[Tim Pool]

Libraries are communism.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, that's fair. I buy all my stuff now anyway because I do have a problem returning books.

[Tim Pool]

Like Internet has information for free. I'm only half kidding about libraries, but it's an honest question. What is a library? What purpose does A library serve today. When I was a kid, libraries served a purpose in that if there was a book you needed that someone recommended, you want to. You want to check it out. You don't want to. You're. It's basically Blockbuster for books.

[Lisa Reynolds]

We use it for school, like my kids are.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, we don't need it anymore. So now it's to Tate's point. Libraries today are like, look, I go to the library and I mentioned it's like Blockbuster, but it was just homeless people. Yeah, not everybody. But, like, the idea is we've created a space where we are sinking money to the benefit of people. Like, not to the good standing citizenry of our towns. It is to the derelict. And look, there's big signs everywhere saying, don't feed the animals. They become dependent. It's one thing when we are like, hey, guys, we should put a light. Imagine you live in a town of 50 people and you all go, we should. We should build a library together. And you all hug and then you build a library and everyone's friends. Now we build libraries and derelict people show up and start using our spaces in. In ways we didn't want them.

[Tate Brown]

It's very true. I mean, I remember my. My local library, when it was lived in Queens. It was literally the entirety of the people using it was the homeless and Hasidic Jews. Those are the only two people that use this place. It was like the most bizarre thing going in there, watching the Hasidics, like, go at it with the homeless, like, fighting over the funny.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Because, like, I'm deep in Philly and we don't like the little one. I go to. I go to, like, Donna Tucci. Right? Like, whatever.

[Tate Brown]

There's still some good. They're in the suburbs primarily.

[Lisa Reynolds]

We just don't have that.

[Tate Brown]

I like where I live now. I live out in the burbs, and there's library, and it's actually quite useful and there's a lot of young children there. It's clearly providing value to these people.

[Tim Pool]

I stopped.

[Tate Brown]

But the city libraries these days are

[Ian Crossland]

literally just a 1995. I stopped going to libraries when the Internet appeared. I was like, they're redundant now, kind of.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I mean, like. So my daughter goes to a classical school, Christian classical school. Both my kids. And they'll get assigned a book, and I don't want to pay $5 every time I need a book. Right. And so we'll go and get that specific book out. You can't get it online. You can't get it in an audiobook. I mean, they're classics for the most part. Some of them, like young kid classics.

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[Lisa Reynolds]

And then I have to like, go get the book out of the library.

[Ian Crossland]

That's true. I went to library in college. I would go sit at the library and I just do stuff.

[Tate Brown]

I want to ruminate on this because I was telling you the most entertaining thing on planet Earth was watching Hasidics and homeless people.

[Ian Crossland]

I know. I'm still thinking about it. You mentioned it. Like, I want to see it.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, the funniest thing you've ever seen.

[Ian Crossland]

The frustration was powerful.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they're both just agitated. One guy's on drugs, one guy's to speak English. And it is just confusion, anger. It's kind of. It's kind of like an academic Waffle House.

[Ian Crossland]

And then the librarians, they're like, hey, librarians.

[Tate Brown]

Out of it.

[Ian Crossland]

They don't tell them to quiet.

[Tim Pool]

We need to. We need to nationalize Waffle House. Replace libraries with waffles.

[Tate Brown]

The only place I've ever witnessed a shooting in my entire life was at a Waffle House. I was at a parking lot. And the shooting, it's the Spirit Airlines of shooting happens. The guy's like choking on his own blood. The employees go back and get back to work. Like, they didn't close. They're like, mop it up, up waffles to make.

[Tim Pool]

And you're like, there's a man dying in there. Like, and you're like, aren't you concerned? Like it happens all the time.

[Tate Brown]

Well, yeah, because I stayed inside. I was in like west Memphis, Arkansas, like a scary place to begin with. And so I Just stayed inside and we just continued dining and the ambulance came in and they slapped the guy and took him out of there. And I was like, wow, this place. That's the only thing I've ever witnessed

[Ian Crossland]

like homeless people going to the library because we used to play magic at the library because we didn't have anywhere to play it. And then they would be like, you

[Tate Brown]

guys can't play this here because there's public indecency laws. So they go to the libraries, they won't get charged.

[Ian Crossland]

And then we had to, we figured it out though. We were being too loud. We.

[Tim Pool]

I used to use the library all the time when I was 18. You do what I use, I go to the, I go to the library to use the Internet.

[Tate Brown]

I haven't checked a book out.

[Tim Pool]

This is before cell phones. So like I had a phone but it was a candy bar Nokia with Snake on it. So if I want to use like, if I was like leaving work and I need to use a computer, I'd go to the library. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Massive in college stuff, library computers.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Cuz now with ebay and with PDFs online, like a book is going to

[Ian Crossland]

be five bucks or audible like I,

[Tim Pool]

I, nah, books are free now in chat GPT.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Like, or you can just grab a

[Tim Pool]

PDF, you can literally just go on chatGPT and say write me chapter one of like a book.

[Lisa Reynolds]

So I didn't know that.

[Tim Pool]

So like let's say someone says I need you to study physics. So go. Okay. You can go to any a LLM and be like right, like Claude's much better. Claude. Claude will write, yeah, Claude will write a whole book for you. You can go to Claude and say write me a 13 chapter book on intro to physics and it'll go okay. And it'll do it. And then it'll give you a PDF and done.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, dude. I mean the idea of a building where knowledge is stored is still pretty

[Tim Pool]

cool, but data centers.

[Ian Crossland]

Data centers, yeah. So you turn data centers.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, but then you can like that's probably how we got, we got, we lost a lot of technology because the power went out of the time. Yeah. Like you lose, you lose it all.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, we're cooked. It's over. I mean the future of this, of this planet, of humanity is we're going to be like, it's, you know, Wall E where everyone's fat. That's, that's, that's wishful thinking. We're going to be morbidly obese, sitting in pods, plugged into the machine brainless and dumb. We are out. Listen, listen. There's an important thing you got to understand with technology. We, when we, when we invent something to do a task for us, we lose the ability to do that task. So the reason why guys used to have much higher testosterone back in the day is because they were lifting things all the time. You were working on a farm, you are lifting and moving stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

Stuff.

[Tim Pool]

So guys were much more likely to be thin and fit. It's the difference. Now, now we don't. So what happens is testosterone has gone down, lift capacity has gone down. We've begun to outsource our thinking to artificial intelligence. Which means if this trajectory continues, you are going to have gaunt or chubby thin boned people who are real dumb outsourcing. And then eventually they what? They just don't exist. There's no reason for.

[Tate Brown]

I think we're more approaching a great filter where it's just people with agency versus people without agency. And I would estimate maybe 10, 20% of the population has agency. So I think future is actually kind of what we're seeing now on steroids where you have 80% of the population. They probably won't get fat because of Ozempic, but they're just going to be effectively. They're going to take, they're going to take the buy from it. They're going to take the buyout from

[Tim Pool]

what if, what if that was the point of what if. That's the point of mass vaccination in Safari. People without agency gleefully took multiple doses and people with agency refused.

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, I didn't.

[Ian Crossland]

I think your difference, you're looking at kids that play with Legos versus kids that play with Minecraft. Like you got to have your kids have the hands on. They need the resistance to feel like it, pull against gravity when they move things to build muscle memory. And then the other kids, that's just like the digital observation is like that will drive people.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I think we can, I think we have like a case study over the last 60 years where technology has emerged that again, people without agency end up utilizing it for entertainment. People with agency utilize it to advance their career in some way. The Internet's a great example. So I think AI for 20% of the people, they'll utilize it as a tool to make more money and et cetera, et cetera. 80% will primarily use it for entertainment.

[Tim Pool]

Everyone's taking the buyout. Bro, Bro, I'm going to tell you this. What do you think? I guar. I guarantee you, everybody listening right now, I Guarantee you this, I will, I will wager money the moment we get non surgically invasive neuralink, meaning you put on a headband and it projects experiences into your mind. Ian's gone. You'll never see him again. He's gone.

[Lisa Reynolds]

He's like, maybe, maybe that's bro.

[Tim Pool]

I'm telling you, when they, when they release neural video games where you plug a headset into your computer and put on the band and then instantly you feel as if you are physically in Dungeons and Dragons. Ian's gone.

[Ian Crossland]

You might.

[Tim Pool]

Ian is going to be like a necromancer.

[Tate Brown]

Well, it's funny. People are like, what if this become. People are like, what if this becomes compulsory? I'm like, they don't need to because 80% of the population will just purchase it.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, no joke.

[Tate Brown]

They make the Internet compulsive.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm like, for about 15 years, I'm bit on the precipice of like one or the other. Like, I will dive into the neural.

[Tim Pool]

He's gone. He's gone.

[Ian Crossland]

And just evaporate. Or I will stay here and build new things, but I can't decide. I'm like, like, hold on.

[Tim Pool]

It's not, it's not this. The, the only outcome is not Ian locking himself away in a matrix pod shriveling up. It's going to be, there's a dude in California who skateboards and there's going to be a homie who lives in New Yorker skateboards. And they're going to be like, hey, do you want to go to, you know, do you want to go to stoner skate Park? And they'll be like, sure. And they both put on their headsets and they get projected into a physical skate park where they're skating with their friends.

[Ian Crossland]

Because I don't have kids. If I had kids, I would want to stay here and, and see them learn. But I'm obsessed with learning. Okay, then I will stay here.

[Tim Pool]

But if I don't have kids in the machine.

[Ian Crossland]

In the machine. Whatever. I could pretend, but like, I love learning. I want to learn. So I will go into the machine to learn a million trillion things and just stay there forever. But that's like, you gotta apply it too. Like, I want to come back and apply it to this version of reality. Like, if I had kids, I'd be here helping them learn.

[Tim Pool]

You're going to go in the machine where you're going to meet a beautiful dragonborn mistress, Paris. You're going to have a child with her and you're going to be like, I don't like spending time away from my kids.

[Ian Crossland]

Full sensory perception.

[Tate Brown]

This future that we're outlining, we're basically saying the fear here is that a large proportion of the population will primarily become consumers and that they will cease to leave a mark on the world. How is that any different than the current situation we're in now? I would say the value. I agreed, people. So what I'm saying, you already have ubi. Exactly. So, I mean, I'm saying as AI less death threats, let's just say top projections of what AI becomes like. Let's say it truly does become this kind of wall E style universe. I don't think the dynamics of the world will change that.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think so.

[Tate Brown]

I think majority of people will still continue to behave as they have now, which is leaving zero mark on the world, primarily consuming and really not shake like in the past. The people that you would say were not movers and shakers, they were still building things. They would build a wall, they would build a farm, and that would exist and they would have children and that would pass along to them. But what we've seen over the last 60 years is that sort of continuation is completely broken. So, AI, all this you can do is drive that in steroids.

[Tim Pool]

Let me, let me, let me just say this for, you know, we've talked about on the show, but with Lisa here, here, we already have ubi, right? Do you think UBI is bad? Universal basic income.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah. I don't like it.

[Tim Pool]

We already have it.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I know, I agree.

[Tim Pool]

The, the, like, imagine going back 200 years, you and explaining your job to a guy. He'd be like, so what does your family do to make money? And you're like, I reach out to communicate with people, to ask them to come and have conversations. You'd be like, what, what, what, what do you mean? Well, we, we have a table where people gather on and talk. And it's like, how do you make money? People pay to watch. I guess they pay you to watch. Well, actually it's free to watch, but other companies want to be involved, so they pay us to mention them before we talk. And it's going to be like, well, where does the food come from? Machines make it.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, like patronage. They did kind of have patronage back then. And they would have performances. So maybe they'll, they'll be like, ubi,

[Tate Brown]

functionally is just an. All you're doing functionally is extending welfare to all. So we already have functional ubi, but for the people that are not contributing, the Elderly. And then the people that are just incompetent.

[Tim Pool]

If I went back 400 years, like, if. Let's imagine this whole room just teleported 400 years back, we're dead.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't know. I don't necessarily know if that's true.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't think that would. I think we'd be okay. No, we're cooked because people would want to be involved.

[Tim Pool]

We've got a bunch of guys whose skills are related to create creative works which don't help anybody survive. And wait, no, we can create like Leonardo da Vinci.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Know that I'm like a huge. Like, I do all the work in my house. I build. I do. I do all that can. I could build.

[Tim Pool]

So when. When the slavers. When the slavers come in, they'll be

[Lisa Reynolds]

like, definitely take a minute.

[Tim Pool]

We got a bunch of dainty nancy boys and a mill wench.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Like, seriously. But. And I garden. I definitely garden. And I.

[Tim Pool]

Well, first. First I get killed for being mixed race. Ian is too frail. So I would just be chucked into a ditch. I'd be a. Nate is appointed chieftain because he's young and 12ft tall.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'd be a concubine, like, right. Like, I'd be like a baby making machine, which I'm fine with.

[Tate Brown]

I know I'm. I'm one of the only winners in this. This potential. Half the country would die. Half the country would die. They live in the Sunbelt. It depends on ac. They just die.

[Ian Crossland]

We teleported to like the.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, let's move French 20 million people to Florida. That's a good idea.

[Ian Crossland]

I would do well in like a royal court, but in like a peasantry thing. I just get bored and want to die.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't think you would.

[Tim Pool]

I think that Ian would walk up to like the, the, the, like the slave driver and he'd be like, you got any lentils?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Do you know what I did?

[Tim Pool]

They would be like, shut up. Up. Whack. I'm kidding. Like 400 years ago was not like that.

[Lisa Reynolds]

In between here and my last job, there was like a couple months, like. Right. Do you know what I did? I went and worked on a farm. I literally worked on a farm. I got paid $10 an hour. Right. And I worked.

[Tim Pool]

You could be a horse inseminator.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I was literally, like, shoving and mucking out stalls, feeding the animals, doing all kinds of stuff. Like it.

[Tim Pool]

Like, did you ever see how they do cows? Yeah, they put a big glove.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, listen, I know how to do it. They do horses the same Way, but so. And I've done all that, like, that hard work, by the way, it is way more fulfilling. You do all that.

[Tim Pool]

I agree.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Your body is tired by the end of the day, but you get this,

[Tim Pool]

like, I don't know, I gotta be real. Like, if we were transported 400 years ago, what would happen is like, this room would be a weird demonic temple or whatever. We'd walk out and there'd be like, local people being like, who are you? And like, what work can you do? I would instantly become like the head chicken farmer. They would bow before me. They would be like, you're a chicken.

[Ian Crossland]

It sounds like Timeline by Michael Crichton, which is a great book.

[Tate Brown]

Four hundred years ago, it'd be all Indians around, show them a firearm, and they'd be like, yes, sir.

[Ian Crossland]

Four hundred years ago, it mattered more.

[Tim Pool]

They'd be like, we're taking this country away from the Europeans.

[Ian Crossland]

It mattered more where you were. It was a lot more different in different areas 400 years ago. Now things are homogenized, so you can kind of do the same job. And everywhere in the world, 400 years ago, it's like, were you in Paris or were you in the farms of Bulgaria?

[Tim Pool]

400 years ago, it wasn't Indian. Where we are now now, if.

[Lisa Reynolds]

If there. If reincarnation is a thing. I definitely was alive during the 1820s to the 1860s. 100%.

[Tim Pool]

You were a mill.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I definitely would have been. What if something weird there? Just saying I was alive then you were alive though. If. If you believe. If. I don't really believe in reincarnation, but

[Ian Crossland]

if I don't know how it works. Cuz I think your spirit existed across all time in everybody. And now it's hyper centralized in you.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Right now I believe in God and purgatory.

[Tim Pool]

Ian's gonna come back after. He's gonna come back as a Jew.

[Ian Crossland]

I hope so. I hope I was a Jew in the past.

[Tate Brown]

Join the winning.

[Ian Crossland]

I hope I was Jesus, dude. But we were all Jesus, bro.

[Tim Pool]

They would lock you up in two seconds, 1789, for blasphemy.

[Ian Crossland]

If I. If I wanted, you'd be like, I

[Tim Pool]

love the Bill of Rights. They'd be like, well, your jail cell's right here.

[Tate Brown]

If you were in China, you could like, start a rebellion. If you claimed you were the.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And you could be a boxer.

[Ian Crossland]

I was Liu bei, dude. I was Chokuliang. I invented the SAT out.

[Tim Pool]

Sat on the wall playing the lute to trick the guy. You know that story, right? With Chuko Liang he opened the gates and played the loot. So when the enemy army came, they thought it was a trap and fled.

[Ian Crossland]

I had balls of steel. He was a farmer, he and his brothers. And then he just didn't want to participate with the war at all. But they begged him. Liu BEI went and begged him, and then he went three times. He kept coming back. And finally Chocolian was like, all right. He met him and he was like, I like you, and I think it's the least worse option. I'll get involved. They called him the Sleeping Dragon. And when he awoke, he led a nation. But still they lost. It's a great story. The Three Kingdoms.

[Lisa Reynolds]

When I'm on, we always get into, like, way more philosophical conversations than usual. I feel like we're always.

[Tim Pool]

Ian's gonna come back as a Lone Star tick so he can take away people's ability to eat.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That is. That's terrifying.

[Ian Crossland]

And it's not permanent, by the way. The Lone Star.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's between one and five years.

[Tate Brown]

Ian. A genie would come to him to be like, I want to come back, but I want to be Jewish. And they'd be like, well, grant your wish and you come back.

[Ian Crossland]

It's 1939. Oops, I'll be down to come back.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Specified year, you should have your properties free for ticks. Okay, good.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we do. And we have Guinea Fowl.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Guinea Fowl House.

[Tim Pool]

Those things are dumb. I wear like a raincoat with a hood because I'm so afraid of the ticks. Dude.

[Ian Crossland]

I kind of want to be like cybertech Jesus now. Like, so I'm like, I got a comment. In 2007, there's Encyclopedia Dramatica. It's this website where they were like, maybe they'd be like, he's like, cyboc Jesus. On the. Because I was like trying to, like, get my mind into. Yeah, Cyboc is like a Star Trek reference, I think.

[Tim Pool]

What are. What are those little bugs that Weevil?

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[Tim Pool]

were a bunch of weevils all over the place. But there were people.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Cute ones.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but people, they're called weevils, I guess. And people didn't know that they weren't ticks. I thought they were ticks. On freaking out and smashing them. Oh, they're like, oh, there's ticks everywhere. And it's like. And then they found out those were just weevils.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe I'm over complaining life, you guys.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Weevils look like little grubs.

[Tate Brown]

I. I haven't been paying.

[Tim Pool]

No, we both look like ticks.

[Tate Brown]

Like if it happens.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm just thinking about kids and like having the simple life where you sit outside and you watch the kids play and like weevil.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Oh yeah, yeah. They have that funny snap.

[Tim Pool]

They don't look like ticks, but they don't. They, they, you know. Right, right. And so there were a bunch of them and they were like black ones and they were like all over the place out here and everyone was freaking about ticks. So they were like ah. And spraying and like people are. They're completely harmless.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That's a little sad that people don't know evils.

[Tim Pool]

We have some seriously dangerous looking bugs here.

[Ian Crossland]

But like they're harmless.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I was bit by a Lyme tick when I was younger.

[Ian Crossland]

Wrong.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I got the bullseye on my arm and all. I pulled it out. I got a pool and I got.

[Tim Pool]

But did you get Lyme disease?

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, I took. They gave me like lots of deoxycycline.

[Ian Crossland]

I got one tick in my armpit about a year and a half ago. It was crazy. And I got it. It was like all dried out.

[Tim Pool]

I was like, what is that visual?

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'm not loving.

[Ian Crossland]

Pulled it out.

[Tim Pool]

It was dead.

[Ian Crossland]

No, I think it was still living. It was like tried to burrow into me while I was pulling it out. Like twisted it and got it out

[Lisa Reynolds]

all the way in.

[Tim Pool]

They don't. They stick their mouth and they suck, and then they get all.

[Lisa Reynolds]

They definitely do burrow, though.

[Tim Pool]

They say you're not. Yeah, they sit their heads in and drink your blood. They say you're not supposed to stress them out because they'll spit back in. And that's how you get the alpha gal.

[Tate Brown]

Do you, like, play music for them and calm down?

[Tim Pool]

You're supposed to. Well, don't fact check me on this one. Don't take this advice, but I watched a thing where they said you put tweezers as far down as you can and pinch until it gives up and pulls out to get away. But if you, like, take a lighter or a heat source, it'll freak out, spit everything into it to you. That was. That stresses it out and it spits the gunk.

[Ian Crossland]

You can, I think, tie a little string around it, too, and then twist it slowly, and that'll kind of get it out.

[Tate Brown]

Like a little massage.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Rubbing.

[Tim Pool]

I'm like. Or what if you just blast it?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Some of them are almost, like, microscopic. They look like. Like lice or something. They're like that little. They're like. Like super small.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, the little tips.

[Tate Brown]

You can negotiate with it.

[Ian Crossland]

You could have a conversation, be like, listen, I'll give you.

[Tate Brown]

I'll find you some food.

[Ian Crossland]

$14, and I'll take you to McD. I don't even know.

[Tate Brown]

I'll take you to the blood bank right now. You can fill yourself.

[Tim Pool]

I was at a restaurant nearby, and it was like a regular old diner. And there's a tick walking on the ground.

[Ian Crossland]

Freaking cr.

[Tim Pool]

And you can't crush them. They're flat. They're flat insects. And so I took something and I smashed it and just grinded into it back and forth, and picked it up and started walking away. Wow. I was like, holy crap.

[Tate Brown]

Got.

[Tim Pool]

Stab it. You got to burn them.

[Ian Crossland]

Burn it.

[Tim Pool]

Not if they're on you, though. If they're on. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

It's not my domain.

[Tim Pool]

So true.

[Tate Brown]

They came from Connecticut from under auspices.

[Tim Pool]

This is the Lyme disease. It takes a bit around forever.

[Ian Crossland]

The.

[Tim Pool]

But Lyme diseases conspiracy theory of Lyme

[Ian Crossland]

disease is Lime, Connecticut. There's an island off the coast of lime, Connecticut where they do, like, biological research and that they were maybe researching a new bioweapon with li. This disease limes. And then it got infested in the ticks. And then from there, like, the first reported case.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Progress.

[Tate Brown]

Because the first reported case was, like, on Long island, right? Like, right across the.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, maybe right across the mine, there's a. There's a name of the island. If you can pull it up chatgpt, you'll know.

[Tate Brown]

Little St. James.

[Ian Crossland]

What's the. What's the name of the island off of Lyme, Connecticut, where they think Lyme disease originated? Let's hear this, dude.

[Tate Brown]

The island you're thinking of is Shelter Island.

[Ian Crossland]

Shelter Island. Okay. So we could look up Shelter Island.

[Tate Brown]

That's kind of an ominous name to it.

[Tim Pool]

Shelter Island.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I love that Tim's trying to kill bugs.

[Tate Brown]

And then the Rolling Stones gave me shelter. They were trying to, like.

[Tim Pool]

Like, spiders are based, though. I like spiders.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't like.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's funny because, like, I'm at home, and I'm just, like, watching Greg Gutfeld, and then I hear a scream, and I get up and run, and it's like, there's this little tiny spider.

[Tate Brown]

My wife. Because here we have, like, daddy along. They're kind of fun, like, everyone. But then you meet, like, Australian spiders are like, yeah, pretty much every animal in our country is trying to kill.

[Ian Crossland]

Spiders are smart, too. Like, if they build a web in your walkway, you break the web, you're like, talk to them. Be like, sorry, dude, you can't build here. And then they'll chill and they'll build up in the corner. Corner. They want to hang.

[Tate Brown]

Our bad. Sorry.

[Tim Pool]

The more relaxed you are, the more flies.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I know what they eat.

[Tim Pool]

But, like, yeah, they're based.

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, they're still disgusting.

[Ian Crossland]

It's the big ones that are no good.

[Tim Pool]

Like, spiders go in the corner, mind their own business.

[Tate Brown]

Like the ones in Iraq, you know,

[Tim Pool]

like a centipedes in Chicago chase you.

[Ian Crossland]

50,000 years ago, there were giant spiders,

[Lisa Reynolds]

like, with the thousand.

[Tate Brown]

Like the Minecraft.

[Tim Pool]

And you'll be like. You'll be chilling, and you're living. Watching tv, and you'll see a centipede, and you'll go, oh. And it'll just run straight towards you. Yeah. And then you'll jump over, and it'll turn and. And keep coming, and you're like, get away.

[Ian Crossland]

Even, like, imagine cave diving, like, 30,000 years ago, and then you get. You're going through, like, cobwebs, and then you get stuck, and you're like, what the. And then all of a sudden, you get a little more stuck, and then a bunch of spiders crawl down and start biting you and poisoning you and then wrapping you up in your.

[Tim Pool]

Because they had.

[Ian Crossland]

What happens, how they lived in shelter.

[Lisa Reynolds]

You know, they had a bug conversation.

[Ian Crossland]

You find a cave, and then the giant millipede comes up and bites, stings you with poison venom. And you're like, oh, you're like paralyzed. Like as it wraps you up, you're

[Tate Brown]

like, I think that's just Australia.

[Ian Crossland]

Australia, that's like terror fuel. And that's where these fear of spiders comes from, I think, because otherwise they're innocuous. They just chill.

[Tate Brown]

Have you heard that? Like, you know, you know how we hate the sound of like a nice plate?

[Tim Pool]

Like they say, oh, let's. I want to talk about this. We got this from the New York Times. Peter Thiel is fleeing to Argentina and wow. You know, with the death threats and the extremism, I think they're seeing the writing on the wall. They literally say in the New York Times that he's concerned about the future of the United States. But there's a lot of people who are like, let me just put it this way. When the powerful billionaires are like, time to leave the country and they go to Argentina, I think there's something they maybe know that we don't.

[Ian Crossland]

Argentina.

[Tate Brown]

He's German.

[Tim Pool]

No, but I mean, Buenos Aires is kind of awesome. It's mountainous South America, but it's, it's general, it's higher income.

[Ian Crossland]

There's a lot of nuclear research in Bariloche.

[Tate Brown]

If you're trying to hide away from political instability, like the last place place you would go would be Argentina. They like literally have the oscillating government. But.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but if you're concerned about being murdered by far left extremists and Argentina's

[Ian Crossland]

not in the mountains. That is literally where the Nazis went after World War II to hide.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There was a funny viral video where this woman was like, I'm exploring Argentina. I found this beautiful little German village. And the top comment was, no one tell her.

[Ian Crossland]

I heard that Peter Thiel, it's going to be temporary. He called it a temporary move.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Until what?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, until he's out of office. No, it's temporary. Until he figures out whether Antifa is going to burn this country down or Trump is going to take.

[Tate Brown]

I think he's probably most concerned about like the redistribution policies coming to the United States, specifically in California. And I think what's going on, this is the most prevailing theory that I've accepted. There's a lot of theories going on is why Teal has skipped the country because people are trying to downplay it. There's like, no, he just bought a house there. It's like he's putting his kids in the local school. That's like kind of important here. I think what's going on here is he knows that California is passing this massive redistribution tax. It's gonna be a huge tax on billionaires. And he understands that even if he moved to, like, Virginia or, you name it, wherever he moved, Florida, that California will still utilize the banking system to come after his money. So what he's trying to do here, this is the most prevailing theory, is one I think is probably correct. So if he goes to Argentina, he's under the watch of Milei. If California comes and tries to audit his Argentinian bank account, Milei can turn it into a wedge issue. He can say, I'm standing up against the Democrats in the United States. And then all of a sudden, the Republican Party in love with Milei.

[Tim Pool]

I'll tell you something scary. You guys want to see something scary? See Buenos Aires province right here.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Here.

[Ian Crossland]

Buenos Aris. Good air.

[Tim Pool]

Buenos Aris, I think, right? Good air. See how it's greenish?

[Tate Brown]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

What do you think? All that. So the entirety of the province is like, basically the same hue. What kind of terrain do you think it is?

[Tate Brown]

Jungle basin they call the La Pampas. It's like wonderful farming.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it is. Literally the whole province is one big farm.

[Ian Crossland]

Whoa.

[Tim Pool]

So choose any location and zoom in, and what do you find? All farms. Let's zoom out and go over here. We zoom in.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I got a plan.

[Tim Pool]

All farms. I. The reason I bring this up is people don't realize the extent to which the human footprint. So if you go to, like, the east coast right here, there's the Pennsylvania wilds, where you actually still have a lot of trees.

[Ian Crossland]

Those are great places to drive through.

[Tim Pool]

So you can see here this. You know, it's mountainous, so there's trees. You can look at Appalachia, and you can see the strip here, and there's trees. But for the most part, the entirety of the terrain of the Midwest, you're like, I wonder what that is. Is literally, Illinois is one giant farm, One gigantic farm with cities.

[Ian Crossland]

Probably because of the. When the flood occurred, it just flattened it.

[Tim Pool]

No, my point is human expansion is much larger than most people consider.

[Ian Crossland]

Dude, I have this map of the world on my wall, and it's like a couple nights I was like, thinking about how we. You were saying the other day, the humans, they cherish the human story. Like, we've named the Earth. We've cut it into little pieces and called it different things. And that's our human.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Why don't we be conquerors again, right? And take all the based right wing People and go take over some South America, bro.

[Tim Pool]

We could take. You could take. We could take Uruguay. They just designated.

[Tate Brown]

Uruguay is the white.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That should be the plan.

[Tate Brown]

Uruguay is the widest country in the Western Hemisphere.

[Lisa Reynolds]

So let's go.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Ian Crossland]

They just named two groups.

[Tim Pool]

Terrorist organization. It's all farms. Yazuma is literally nothing but farms.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That's the new.

[Tate Brown]

Argentina is a fascinating country. Like, it'd be difficult to get you to pin. Pin in on it, but there's an entire province called the Church Chubbut Province there. And there's. If you zoom in on the town names in the Chibut Province, they're all Welsh names. And the reason for that is because in, like, the late 1800s, a lot of Welsh people.

[Tim Pool]

Where's that?

[Tate Brown]

If you go, oh, there it is, and zoom in.

[Tim Pool]

And that sounds Jewish.

[Tate Brown]

Look at some of the town names. Go to the right. Like, there's one called, like, Rossen Trail.

[Tim Pool]

So the reason for that is that sounds Welsh.

[Tate Brown]

In the late 1800s, a lot of Welsh people were fearing, like, the English were, like, displacing their culture. They have a language, the Welsh language. So a lot of them moved, moved to Argentina so they could preserve the Welsh language. Well, they ended up going down there in Patagonia where, like, no one would mess with them because back then, you know, there was no transcontinental flights, that sort of thing. And what ended up happening was when the Falkland wars broke out in 1982, you know, Argentina invaded the Falklands, and then Maggie Thatcher came down and, you know, destroyed them. What happened was all the Argentinian POWs that were caught in the Falklands were being transported back to Argentina. Now, a lot of the Royal Marines that were escorting these gentlemen back to Argentina, they didn't speak English, the Argentinians, and they didn't speak Spanish. There was a language barrier. Well, there's a story about one of the Royal Marines, he was from Wales and he was trying to communicate with them, and they're like, back talking in Spanish or whatever. And then all of a sudden, he starts hearing a guy jaw at him in Welsh and he's like, what? Wait, what? What was that? And he keeps talking to him in Welsh. So it just, like, demonstrates that Argentina is a very European place, but it's just been completely, you know, it's like a backwater in a lot of ways. And so they completely forgot shot. And then lo and behold, the British come down and they're having an argument in Welsh. Like, a language that is, you know, has declined massively.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Over the last day. Let the Dems have America. Let's go get our own. Let's conquer a new territory and just.

[Tim Pool]

Let's take.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, but who's going to do the fighting? What? I don't want to fight.

[Tate Brown]

If you zoom in on Buenos Aires, not worth it. Neighborhoods that have English names because the Anglo Argentine community was quite expensive there. And there's a massive.

[Tim Pool]

This place, it's crazy.

[Tate Brown]

There's a club called the Hurlingham Club and it's this like one of the world's most prestigious polo clubs and bowling clubs in the world. And it's all like Anglo Argentines.

[Tim Pool]

The city is just. Buenos Aires is massive.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Was it like 16 million in the metro?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, it's huge.

[Ian Crossland]

This is all. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And they also had similar dynamics to the United States. They had a lot of illegal immigration coming into the country from like Peru and Bolivia and stuff. And so part of Malay's campaign was, I'm going to get all these illegals out of here. So they have a lot of the same dynamics. The United States.

[Ian Crossland]

What is argent? Argentine? What is the. What is the etymology of argent? Is that blue? Does that mean blue?

[Tate Brown]

Usually they're like derivatives of a native indigenous name.

[Ian Crossland]

It means something small. Tina means it's a small thing.

[Tate Brown]

But yeah, it's a fascinating place.

[Ian Crossland]

Silver means silver. So small silver. Maybe there are a lot of silver mines here when they populated it. But.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

But remember, silver wasn't like the president of Uruguay, like some fat old farmer or something.

[Tate Brown]

That checks out. That checks out. Uruguay is a very like Italian and Spanish place. Peru's fascinating. So a lot of Japanese went to South America in the late 1800s, early 1900s. And Peru famously had a Japanese president, Alberto Fujimori. And it was really fascinating. A country that had maybe a couple hundred thousand Japanese people. The Japanese were like dominating the elite in Peru. Like the restaurant Nobu. You're familiar with the restaurant Nobu. That is a. That is actually cuisine from Peru. It's Japanese Peruvian, quote unquote fusion because of the Japanese community there. And so Fujimori's daughter is actually like now the head honcho.

[Tim Pool]

The. The per capita GDP of Uruguay is 40,000.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, it's a very nice place.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. This etymology of Argentina that's like comparable

[Tim Pool]

to the United States.

[Ian Crossland]

It's Sierra de la Plata, the Silver

[Tate Brown]

Mountain, and even southern, Southern Brazil. So like Santa Catarina and the Sewell is all like. It's all European. So those bottom three states there, Piranha, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande Sul is all Europeans. And actually, I think it's Santa Catarina has a massive German population. A lot of them still speak German, you may know.

[Ian Crossland]

But when they were divvying up. When the Europeans were divvying up the conquest of the Western Hemisphere in, like, the 14, 1500s, the Portuguese got the furthest east part of South America, Brazil, basically. And all the other Europeans could colonize everything else. Well, that's why you see that.

[Tim Pool]

What's the biggest city in your way? Montevideo.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Portugal and Spain were, like, basically going at it. They're trying to determine who was gonna be able to control what. And so they went to the Pope and he said, okay, here's the agreement. Spain basically gets, like, the corners of the world. Portugal gets the middle. So all the colonies in Africa were Portuguese, and then all the colonies in Asia and South America were Spanish. But there was a sliver that was allocated to the Portuguese, which.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, wow. Uruguay is 86 white, 10 black, 6% indigenous.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, it's a very white place. And those are, like, actually more white

[Tim Pool]

than the United States.

[Tate Brown]

Yep. It's the whitest country in the Western Hemisphere and whiter than most of Europe at this point.

[Ian Crossland]

Uruguay. Wow, Interesting. I heard that was Uruguay. We were talking about doing a graphene corporation in Uruguay. I don't know why, but apparently it's very favorable to, like, American.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, there's a lot of expats. You know, expat is just a white immigrant. There's a lot of them in Montevideo.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you spend time in the jungle in Africa? South African jungle at all, or South American jungle?

[Tate Brown]

Never been to South America. I've been to Trinidad. It's kind of close, but never been. I really want to go. I really, really like to go to Argentina.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Tim Cash trip and go from.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I mean, it'd be fascinating to. Because, like, Japan.

[Tim Pool]

Japan's awesome.

[Tate Brown]

Argentina. Argentina at the turn of the 19th century. So that going into the 1900s was the wealthiest country in the Western hemisphere. What was Argentina.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

The wealthiest country in the Western hemisphere. And then a bunch of political instability leading into the Peronist years. It just completely destroyed their country.

[Tim Pool]

And then a lot of German people went there.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, sure did.

[Tate Brown]

But it's kind of funny because, you know, I think about, like, 10 to 20,000, like, you know, Third Reich exiles went there, but there was already a massive German population there. That's actually why they went there was because there was already an established German population. And now you have a lot of Mennonites, like, The Mennonites like are running the show in Bolivia and Paraguay because they can, they're super efficient. They can produce a lot of food.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I really wouldn't want to leave. I don't. Yeah, I like places where there's like I would go to like if England's,

[Tate Brown]

you know, you can move to the Falkland.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Government was different. You know what I mean? I live likes places with history and old buildings and I don't want to live over there.

[Ian Crossland]

Have you been to South America?

[Lisa Reynolds]

I have no interest in going to South America.

[Ian Crossland]

It was kind of crazy. I lived in Chile and Santiago for a short period of time. And the federales, man, the federal cops. This is why I'm really.

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[Ian Crossland]

about deploying the national guard because just in Santiago is just common for the Fed federal government to control street corners. Everywhere you go, dudes in federal outfits with guns and it's like very disconcerting.

[Tate Brown]

I think Chile is another example of like kind of bizarre European migration patterns because their founding father, his name is Bernardo, you see that checks out is Chile. His last name is o'. Higgins. He was of Irish extraction. So they're founding, they're kind of there. George Washington in some ways was a man named Bernardo o'. Higgins. It's really dramatic. I don't think he spoke English either. And like you see this all across. Like Argentina's star midfielder and he was a star in the last World Cup. He plays for Liverpool pool. His Name's Alexis. It's like checks out. His Last name is McAllister. So his name's Alexis. McAllister doesn't really didn't speak any English until he moved to England. But he's of like Scottish extraction. It's really fascinating a lot of the dynamics in. In South America. The Croatians like totally run the show and.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And still have no interest in going.

[Ian Crossland]

Paraguay, did you go to the jungle? It's crazy. Go to Iquitos in north.

[Tim Pool]

What if we stage an expedition to escape the intercontinents and traverse the ice

[Ian Crossland]

wall, we would have to take the

[Tate Brown]

Amazon that I'm to the center.

[Ian Crossland]

I think we would get turned away if we go to like the cold

[Tate Brown]

ice ones might like.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, you're looking at the southern. The southern. What's that place called?

[Lisa Reynolds]

The Titanic did not hit a iceberg, but like a ton of icebergs. No, I didn't want. I just watched this guy who did like studied it for nine years anyway, that made me think of the ice. Well, it was literally last night I

[Tate Brown]

was watching in the Titanic movie. When they're in the water, it's still like lit. But that's the scariest part is you're there, there's no light whatsoever. Some of the Titanic goes down, the lights go out in the boat. It's pitch black. That's the scary dude.

[Ian Crossland]

Pitch black is crazy.

[Tim Pool]

There were people trapped on that boat and air pockets just like. You would just hear.

[Tate Brown]

You would see nothing. It'd be like a sensory deprivation tank. But screams, that'd be the only thing.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Apparently there was like this mirage thing that happened like instead. You know how like when you're in the desert, you see like that little mirage? Well, they said it was a clear night and because of the temperature of the water and the temperature of the. It was like warmer out there that it created this like oceanic mirage type of thing. And then they didn't. That they didn't like, not see the iceberg. There was like.

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They were.

[Lisa Reynolds]

They hit like.

[Tim Pool]

That's a great story. What actually happened is there was a decoy ship. The most important people escaped. The whole thing was planned so they could create the Federal Reserve.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, a bunch of. Bunch of influential people died on that boat. That was a crazy part of the story.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah. Do we. We. Are we going down there? We.

[Tim Pool]

No, we should remake the Titanic and then do it again. This time everything will be okay.

[Ian Crossland]

Dude, Richie Jackson was telling me about this shipwreck where these guys went down to like just get recovered, excavate basically the depths of the death and all that and see all the dead bodies. And one of the guys was swimming down there and a guy reached out and grabbed like a guy had survived in an air pocket.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, yeah. It was a big story. Like a few months ago he was on there for three days in pitch black, just in an air pocket. And they were going down to recover the dead bodies when a guy grabbed in the divers and they turn a lot. They saw him. They were like, there's a survivor, bro.

[Ian Crossland]

And he survived. He's okay now.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Wow. You gotta send me that. That would give me a whole Pitch black is crazy.

[Ian Crossland]

This is why I think about like order and how Val, like, I thought again about this weird story. If you were out in the woods in the pitch dark, trying to survive and you found a small village of light and you're like, oh my God. Here, look like in order to come into the village you must eat a child.

[Tim Pool]

You're like, I don't know why, I just changed the image to a bunch of cows.

[Lisa Reynolds]

We like them too, too.

[Tim Pool]

But you know, had the guy there for. There you go. That was him made it.

[Ian Crossland]

He was the chef. He was a chef, I think.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'm sorry, but he's scary looking anyway.

[Tim Pool]

He's just in water for days in an air pocket.

[Ian Crossland]

Is that him underw in the.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, in the pocket. They filmed it.

[Tate Brown]

I'd be so upset if that were me.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be pissed if they found you to be like, guys, I was so comfortable. Like finally peace and quiet.

[Ian Crossland]

He tried to go down with the

[Tate Brown]

ship, but these guys will do to escape women.

[Ian Crossland]

Imagine he gave up. Like, is this what they call ego death?

[Tim Pool]

Where they find him and he's like, don't tell my wife.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, like, what would that do to you if you believe you're going to die? Like, you truly just accept it and then. And then you live like that for. For days.

[Tate Brown]

It's all case study. In Hawaii when they were all convinced that there was a nuclear war.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah. The text alert went out to everybody saying a nuke is coming. And then everyone freaked out because the

[Tate Brown]

general like the general understanding of human psychology is like everyone would start. Wasn't because we saw in Russia and Moscow when they thought like Napoleon was coming to destroy all them or. And the same thing with the Germans is they thought it would. Would turn. It's like a giant brothel. And I think but in Hawaii everyone was just like one.

[Tim Pool]

One of the stories out of Hawaii was that a male and female cousin Banged?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, the human psychology gets.

[Tim Pool]

There was a. There was a post online where it was like a woman said that when they all got the text messages that a missile was inbound to Hawaii, they freaked out. And then she like her male cousin was there and they were like, screw it. And they just like hooked up. And then. Yeah, and then it was like on Reddit or something. And then when they were like, they found out as a false alarm and they're kind of like, oh, and they got married.

[Ian Crossland]

Oops, let's just.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, they did. I'm kidding.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay, that was a. That's a good story.

[Lisa Reynolds]

There is a weird horrible story that's a crime thing that was like, that there was a. A girl and she had an affair with her cousin. I believe her first cousin. And then she broke it off, cuz she's like, oh, this is terrible and wrong. And then he went and like massacred everyone in her family. This was like recently too.

[Ian Crossland]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Don't worry, you can't be embarrassed because I killed everybody.

[Lisa Reynolds]

He was so upset about it that like he. Everybody but her husband. Well, her husband like survived the attack and that's how like they found out it was him. But like her mother went in to check on her and then.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, she was married and cheating on her husband with her cousin? Yes, Horrible.

[Lisa Reynolds]

But like, this is like a legit happened.

[Ian Crossland]

I think I'm more disturbed by her cheating on her husband than I am getting with her cousin. Although I'm not into cousin on cousin. I'm not saying that.

[Tim Pool]

What about second cousins?

[Ian Crossland]

I think that's okay.

[Lisa Reynolds]

This was first cousins.

[Tim Pool]

No, I know, but like, how do you guys feel about second cousin?

[Ian Crossland]

Second cousin means it's your dad's cousin.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Is that what that Cousins.

[Tim Pool]

Second cousin is your dad's cousin. So it's like if or your mom's cousin.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I think that's okay.

[Lisa Reynolds]

A little less gross.

[Tim Pool]

It's still gross.

[Lisa Reynolds]

It's still gross. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

What about like, less gross is third cousin than your grandpa or grandma's cousin? Cuz now you're talking about age gaps too. Like cousin of a cousin.

[Lisa Reynolds]

So gross, man. All of us. Just stay away from your own.

[Tim Pool]

Ian's trying to figure out which cousin he can bang.

[Ian Crossland]

Like I'm going through the. The Rolodex right now.

[Tate Brown]

I'm eighth cousin.

[Tim Pool]

She was hot.

[Tate Brown]

Eighth cousins with Taylor Swift. I will say Avril lavine is a cousin of mine.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Make me look bad. But I. When I was young, my mom had her cousins, right? And then there they had kids and then one of their kids was. His name is. He was kind of like a tr. He was cute, like a good looking kid. But then he was still like my. It wasn't really my cousin, but like I could see. We're not related by blood.

[Ian Crossland]

Was he?

[Tim Pool]

This is interesting. You and your second cousin. Your. Your. Your furthest line is your great grandparent, but your grand.

[Ian Crossland]

You.

[Tim Pool]

You have different grandparents.

[Ian Crossland]

I, I see.

[Tate Brown]

But I don't think that's what people conventionally.

[Tim Pool]

Your grand. Your grandparents. Sibling has a kid, their grandchild would be your second cousin.

[Tate Brown]

But I think the way people typically use second cousin is like for example, if your first. First cousin had a child, that would be your second cousin also.

[Tim Pool]

That would be.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. And your first cousins will be your children's second.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That's not.

[Tate Brown]

That's how people.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Second cousin.

[Tate Brown]

That's how people technically use my.

[Ian Crossland]

But buddy's dad.

[Tate Brown]

But it's not correct. That's the correct. This is the correct. Right.

[Ian Crossland]

My friend. His dad's brother married his mom's sister. It's not a weird thing. His cousin is her cousin's.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. No, this was.

[Tate Brown]

Ancestry just breaks.

[Tim Pool]

There's a. There's a funny viral story where a woman, she went viral because she married. What is it like she married a guy at a family. Like she met a guy at a family event, they got married and, and they were like. I forgot what the. The thing was. She was like, we are not related, but they were cousins. Because it was like our. The way it worked was it was her cousins.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

She married her cousin's cousin. And so everybody was like, you're related. She's like, no, no, no, no. My cousin is related to me from my dad, but my cousin's mom has a sister who had a kid and I married that kid who's not related to me because I can still. Weird.

[Tate Brown]

Weird.

[Lisa Reynolds]

It is weird.

[Ian Crossland]

It just sounds weird,

[Lisa Reynolds]

but it's still weird.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it's. It's kind of. It is kind of crazy too that like I never really thought about it because my family wasn't that big. But my. I. It didn't occur to me until I was a little older. My cousins had cousins who are not related to me.

[Tate Brown]

I know it's the biggest betrayal when you find. No, but like, if you're a founding stock. So if you have any like Mayflower descendants.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't.

[Tate Brown]

Or ancestors, then the Putnams. I don't know. Yeah. So 51 Mayflower passengers had children. So if you are of Mayflower stock You're going to be related to every other.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, they were all inbreeding the Mayflowers.

[Tim Pool]

Well, bro, let's be real.

[Tate Brown]

51 of them.

[Tim Pool]

If you have the same last name as someone, you're related.

[Tate Brown]

Likely. Yeah. And if you're. If you have any European hair.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the smiths are related.

[Ian Crossland]

Sometimes they. They change their name to like whatever their job was.

[Tim Pool]

So you never know the reason people last names originated from the jobs. And the reason why there's so many smiths is because when a conqueror took over a country, you don't kill the blacksmiths. They make weapons, force you. And when you're going to war, you don't send the blacksmiths because they make weapons for you. So smiths survived.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I think there are cases where someone's like, what's your name? He's like, I don't know. What do you do? I'm a blacksmith. Okay, then you're smith in. And you're not related to the other guy who is smith.

[Tim Pool]

You can actually just look this up. Last names were both, right? There wasn't a thing where it was like, what's your last name? I don't know, but I'm a smith. It was. He is John the Smith. And they would. And that's why there's names like. Like one day, Smith. Smith. You know what I mean? I mean, John of the Smith.

[Ian Crossland]

When they come to the United States and they're like signing paperwork at Ellis island and they'll be like, what? Your name is incomprehensible to me. So what do you know their name? I play basketball. Okay, then you're Jumper.

[Tim Pool]

No talking about Native Americans for. For people who came here, they'd be like, my name is Rick of Rome. And then. And they'd put your name as Richard de Rome or De Roma or something. You're from like. So people got there. There are modern versions, but John Jumper. There's. There's a bunch of names, like, related to the job you do. Smith. We were blacksmiths show called the Blacksmiths. And they were all black, but also smiths. That's that real? No, I just made that up. Oh, black. There could be a show like that. Be like a double entendre. Be kind of funny.

[Ian Crossland]

You might be able to get away.

[Tim Pool]

So here's the list, Ian.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Of this list. Where would. Where would you. Like, where is the line for you?

[Ian Crossland]

For me?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

But who I would bang?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. Sibling.

[Ian Crossland]

Third cut. No, I wouldn't bang my siblings. I never had a sister, though. But no, I Wouldn't do it.

[Tate Brown]

Evans.

[Ian Crossland]

Cousin. No, no. Second cousin. You're kind of getting unrelated at that point. It's kind of weird.

[Tim Pool]

I had a. Like a girl in my class who I found out was a cousin, I guess my dad's side. My aunt. His or her. Her husband's cut. Niece was this girl. So we. So you're not related at all. Yeah, yeah. But it's weird because we're still. That was the thing about the chick who married her cousin's cousin is she's like my cousin's mother. My aunt is an aunt by marriage. Yeah. So we have no blood relation. Yeah, her sister had a child. So my cousin and him are cousins, but we have no blood relations. So that's like a weird try.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like a triforce of cousin.

[Tate Brown]

I have. I have a real. This is a. I have a real friend, and I'll just use fake names here. Obviously is. His name is John, and he married sue, and they got married. Now Sue's younger sister Jane and John's younger brother Joe, they also married. So they're both married. So then when they have kids. Yes, cousins, but they're half siblings.

[Ian Crossland]

That's my buddy Steve and his cousin.

[Tim Pool]

Well, if they're twins.

[Ian Crossland]

They're more than twins.

[Tate Brown]

They're genetic half siblings. Yeah, they're genetic. No, they're genetic siblings. And if they're not twins, they have genetic half siblings. Siblings.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So if, like, if you're. If you're. If. If your dad is a twin, your cousin is actually your half brother.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or half sister. But if you're both twins, if your mom is a twin, your dad is a twin, you actually are just brother and sister.

[Tate Brown]

And it's kind of interesting.

[Tim Pool]

Like crazy, right?

[Tate Brown]

And some of these, like, classical understandings. Like, there was a story going on recently because a guy whose wife died, and he ended up, like, marrying her younger sister. And everyone was, like, disturbed by this. But that was, like, the way it worked for. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's not used to be back.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, I'm thinking that's why we talk about monarchy. I'm like, in the patriarchy, patriot.

[Tim Pool]

His wife dies, and then his wife's sister came and took care of his kids.

[Ian Crossland]

If your dad was the king and he was like, you're gonna be marrying your cousin. You're like, I. I'm doing whatever you say because you're the king. Or he's like, I'm gonna have you marry your sister. What's that?

[Tim Pool]

It was the Habsburgs. They were just like, okay.

[Ian Crossland]

They would Marry each other.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Rothschilds did it too. That's how they held it. They want to keep, they want to insulate the wealth.

[Ian Crossland]

Yes, insulating power and wealth.

[Tate Brown]

One of the, the eighth in line of the Habsburg's throne was on Michael Noel's show the other day.

[Ian Crossland]

No, really?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Really?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. He was like giving his political takes.

[Tim Pool]

Does he have, you have like, does he have a jaw?

[Ian Crossland]

The Hapsburg jaw is crazy. That inbred.

[Tim Pool]

Would, would you, would you marry your third cousin? You share the same great great grandparent.

[Ian Crossland]

If she, if I fell in love, probably.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the crazy thing though. Let's, let's, let's take a look at this, right? So let's say great great grandparent had her first child at 19 years old. So at 30. So at great grandparents is 19 and has her first, first kid. So now it's you know, 38, 19, your grandparent at 19. So here you are, you've got a 38 year old grandparent, you've got a like, let's just do 20 year gaps. So 20, 40, 60, you have a 60 year. Hold on, is it. You've got a 40 year old grandparent, a 60 year old great grandparent and an 80 year old great great grandparent parent and you meet your, your second. So this would be your second cousin. You'd share a great great grandparent, I guess if it made it to you, your third cousin and you could theoretically have a 100 year old great great grandparent and you go to family meetings together. Like would you marry that person?

[Ian Crossland]

If I was married to her and then I found out I wouldn't divorce her, but I, if I found out beforehand, I'd be real weirded out Union.

[Tate Brown]

It'd be like, like what about that

[Tim Pool]

episode of House where like they, the men and the women find out they're half siblings because the dad cheated with the neighbor and then the neighbor wife had a kid and the, so the, the, the, the, the, the boy grew up next to his next door neighbor and they were high school sweethearts and he was like all growing up. My dad was always yelling at me to stay away from her, not to date her, but we love each other. And then they're like, yeah, you're half siblings, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

And this is my question with gene therapy. Would you marry your great great great great great great granddaughter while she was super hot and you're in love with her because if your body stays young as you age like 400 years old, solar age goes up, but your genetic age stays the same and your 35 year old body and your. But you've been here for 190 years.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And so are we vampires now?

[Ian Crossland]

If you knew it's coming to this, we're gonna be living for a long time.

[Tim Pool]

If you traveled into. If you traveled back in time 200 years and met like your ancestor and she was hot. And she was hot, you'd hook up with her.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't want to mess with this

[Tim Pool]

question your ads I'm all about chaos

[Tate Brown]

theory side I'm good friends her child but then also her like great, great, great, great grand.

[Ian Crossland]

What if it's like the only way for you to exist is to have sex with me right now?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Like a back to the future?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He almost hooked up with his own grandfather.

[Ian Crossland]

Mom wants to hook up with him. That's crazy.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That that was Back to the future.

[Tate Brown]

It makes sense cuz it looks half

[Tim Pool]

half back to the future. He was disappearing because he needed to connect his mom and dad. Futurama is when Fry goes back in time and meets his grandmother and then realizes that his gr. Like his grandfather can't be his grandfather because his grandfather got blown up and he still exists. And then the professor goes you idiot. Isn't it obvious? He. He's like if, if, if. So Fry's grandfather gets blown up in a nuclear test and Fry still exists and got goes well that proves he's not really my grandfather. That proves you're not my grandmother. So he bangs his grandma and then the presser is like isn't it? He's like if my grandfather is dead, then who's my grandfather? And he goes isn't it obvious, you idiot, it's you. That's what I'm talking about. And because he went back in time and banged his own grandmother giving birth to his dad. And then who gave birth to him? It erased the delto brainwave from his brain. So now he can't be mind controlled by the giant brains.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, see, there is value to inbreeding. It's a risk. You know, you have really good traits. Like the Jews came up with some high intelligence, but they also have some weird disease I think think that's inherent.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, what do they. They have some kind of blood thing, right?

[Ian Crossland]

It's a inbreeding. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what it's called, but most Pizza.

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, I don't. But I do know what it's called cuz they have to test you for it when you have babies.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you're right about back in Iceland. Apparently they have an App to make sure they're not cousins when they hook up.

[Ian Crossland]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

That's a huge problem there.

[Ian Crossland]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Keep it in the island. Island.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Cuz they're all cousins, man.

[Ian Crossland]

O. Yeah. They're all woke too, in like Crusader Kings. You know, you can. You can change the law of like, is it legal to marry your second cousin? Is it legal to marry your cousin? Is it legal to marry your sister? And like, back in the day, it was totally legal.

[Tim Pool]

Cousin marriage was completely normal in all cultures for a long time. Even United States.

[Ian Crossland]

Very.

[Tim Pool]

And then in the Middle east, still common to this day. And it lowers your iq.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Very bad people. There's something called line breeding in chickens where you just have the dad bang the kids. Yep. Because they don't care. They're chickens.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I know, but like, it's still gross even for chickens.

[Ian Crossland]

Do you eat their eggs?

[Tim Pool]

Well, chickens have different genetics, so they don't have the same problems. Humans do.

[Ian Crossland]

So baseline for un. Okay, baseline. 2 to 3% risk of major congenital disorders. Just baseline. If you're unrelated, 2 to 3% chance. 12.5% chance. If you're first cousins. This is according to ChatGPT, 12.5% of D. Oh. If you share about 12% of DNA, then there's a 4 to 6% chance. Sorry, I misread. That. If you share 12.5% of DNA with someone, meaning you're a cop. Cousin, there's a 4 to 6% Chance of a congenital error. So it basically doubles from unrelated to first cousin. You have a. And then it goes up to. If you share about 3.1% of DNA, which is second cousins, it's about 3 to 3.5%, which is up from a 2 to 3%.

[Tim Pool]

Very.

[Ian Crossland]

Almost the same.

[Tim Pool]

What's the number for siblings?

[Ian Crossland]

I didn't ask. Siblings. Let's find out. How about siblings?

[Tim Pool]

You can gate.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, here it is. Sibling, parent or child?

[Tim Pool]

Cousin.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Oh, sibling. Parent or child. 50%.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no. If. I'm sorry, I'm reading this. If you share 50% of your DNA, it just says much higher, very high. It doesn't say 4 to 6% from first.

[Tim Pool]

Should all be illegal. But they're legalizing it. Cousin marriage is getting legalized in the UK and the United States because they're the. And sibling marriage is going to. Is going to happen too. The argument that's being made is with the gay marriage stuff, the door opened to everything.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Like, bad idea.

[Tate Brown]

The.

[Tim Pool]

The. The argument is if. If you're. As long as you're Consenting adults. And so there have been these cases where it's like, as long as you agree not to have kids or whatever, and they're going to sue on those grounds and be like, you can't stop us. And then you're going to have a bunch of inbred, you know, deficious people.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. This says if you hook up with your uncle or your niece or your aunt or your nephew, that you share about 25% DNA, there's a 10 to 20% chance of serious congenital disorder.

[Tim Pool]

But if you're sibling. What, what's, what's the word for it? I suggest we just say in law, your in laws. You may be good to go. You're good to go. That's right.

[Ian Crossland]

There's.

[Tim Pool]

So you're allowed to say just, just, you know, if you ever are announcing that you're banging your aunt or uncle, just make sure you mention in law, in law.

[Ian Crossland]

And then in your, if it's your sibling, 50% DNA, he's like, stop. It says you about 25 to 40% chance or higher for severe deformity from your sibling. So it looks like it scales up linearly based on how much of a percent DNA you share with the person.

[Tim Pool]

What happens if, can you look this up? Like what happens if you hooked up with your great grandparent?

[Ian Crossland]

What if you had a kid okay. With your great grandparents? Cause we're talking, how does that work as you age? I don't even know it's gonna happen to somebody eventually if it hasn't already a great grandparent. It's possible you share about 12.5%. I mean like okay, roughly 4 to 6% chance.

[Lisa Reynolds]

So now that's like your cousin.

[Tim Pool]

So, so hold on. If your great grandparent had their first kid at like 13 and then they, then your grandparent had their first kid at 13. So they're 26 when your parent is born. So they're 39 when you're born. I don't think it's possible for you to have a child with your great grandparent.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Well, if they're, if the grandparent was the grandparent a man, this is definitely.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, duh.

[Lisa Reynolds]

This is definitely great parents you can

[Tate Brown]

have a great, definitely happened in Pakistan

[Ian Crossland]

by the way, as we gene therapy like Brian Johnson and we live for 170 years in like 40 year old bodies. So this says if it's your great, great, great great grandparent, you're good. It's only a 2% chance of DNA chance. It's about the same as just an Unrelation. So if it is your great, great, great, great, great, great granddaughter, I guess

[Tim Pool]

if you go back in time, you can. You're good, you're ready.

[Ian Crossland]

Live till you're 200. We just did a great job. Great, great.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I will say, are you my great grandmother who's like a lord or something, and he's very, very, very wealthy, and he's literally looking for a young wife right now. So, like, if that's equivalent to your great, great, great.

[Tim Pool]

They took away the Lordships, remember, Like, they.

[Lisa Reynolds]

He's got something where he wants to, like, leave his estate and something. He needs us.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I'm saying the estate's worthless.

[Ian Crossland]

I think this is what Zeus.

[Tim Pool]

The House of Lords is. Is cooked.

[Tate Brown]

The House of Lords still exists. It's the hereditary people.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I'm saying.

[Tate Brown]

Historic. Maybe he's just politicians.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. So when you're a lord and you're like, I'm a lord, it's like that means nothing.

[Tate Brown]

Do you know why there's so many place names around here called Fairfax, Lord Fairfax, etc.

[Tim Pool]

Is because he banged a lot of chicks.

[Tate Brown]

Well, no. So Lord Fairfax was obviously a British lord, and he had a personal relationship with George Washington. They were buddies. And so the American Revolution happens. The United States takes away the nobility, all the titles from all the lords, and America, except Lord Fairfax was spared. So he was the only American citizen that was allowed to keep his British peerage. Now six or seven generations go by. It's the early to mid-1800s they've long forgotten, because no one in America cares about nobility. Well, this guy, he kind of, like, realizes, like, hey, I'm actually technically entitled to a seat in the House of Lords. So he gets on a boat, he goes to London, he says, hey, you know that empty seat for Lord Fairfax? And they're like, yeah. And he's like, I probably got a southern accent. And he's says, I would like my seat back. And so the Fairfaxes were brought back into the House of Lords, and then until this year, his descendant was still in the House of Lords and he had Virginia heritage.

[Tim Pool]

But what if, like, one guy has

[Tate Brown]

a kid in Winchester, Virginia, like, who.

[Tim Pool]

Who gets to decide what happens if, like, you know, Lord Brown has three kids? And then you're like, I am, you know, leaving, and the.

[Ian Crossland]

The.

[Tim Pool]

The seat will beall to my eldest. Then he has three kids, as sooner or later there's like 73, you know, brown family who are like, who gets to have the seat?

[Lisa Reynolds]

The eldest.

[Ian Crossland]

Always the oldest boy in A primogeniture.

[Tim Pool]

So that means, like, this, the second oldest has a kid, and that kid's cut out and, like, never have access. That's how you get, like, Scar murdering Mufasa.

[Tate Brown]

That's how you got the South. The American south was the cavalier class. Those were all the second children of British nobility. And they obviously hadn't. They weren't going to inherit anything in Britain. So they took whatever wealth they did have. They moved to the United States, they moved to the South. They founded the Southern gentry. The Southern gentry were all the second and third.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, that's kind of whack. Imagine, like, you're born and you grow up and you're like. By the way, like, you're second, so you can't have. You get nothing.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, that was.

[Tate Brown]

You just got to move to Georgia and figure it out.

[Lisa Reynolds]

But they. They do get. They got, like, different benefits and privileges. They got, like, access and.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, they were still immensely.

[Lisa Reynolds]

A lot of them would go to, like, in the clergy. Right. Like, that was a big thing because

[Ian Crossland]

then they couldn't inherit. And that was because it was dangerous. Sometimes they'd be given, like, a kingship or a lordship, like a duchy or something, by their brother, who was the king. Now, before that, it was before that was called primogeniture is when they evolved to be able to give everything to the eldest.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I like the feudal system.

[Ian Crossland]

It used to be called gavelkind, where the guy would die and the land would just get split up amongst the kids and they'd fight. They'd immediately go to war, and whichever one took over would be the new king. It was horrible for siblings and stuff. And they'd be killing each other. And then they also have something called ultimo geniture, which is where they give it. Everything goes to the youngest. That was, like, what the Mongols did, because it ensured, like, a longer reign because a lot of chaos would ensue when there would be a short reign, when a king would serve for six years and die, you know. Cause it's already just been split up again.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And then you'd have these young kids running it. That's happened.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And then if the kid's too young, if the kid's like 11, they'd. Oh, you know. Yeah. They'd put somebody in charge, like Snape or somebody would come and take over the kingdom and run the kingdom with the kids. Kid as like a figurehead.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, they did a lot of that with the. The tutors, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

That's been, like, the way humanity Worked forever.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I think that's the way it should be.

[Ian Crossland]

As far as we know, in writing, like, divorce is illegal, yo, what's that?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, divorce is illegal.

[Ian Crossland]

I want to talk about Zeus for a minute because I think he banged his children and his children's children.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think Zeus is real.

[Ian Crossland]

I think he was. I think it was a dude that had electricity and like, passed down from,

[Tim Pool]

are you looking at me, Lisa?

[Ian Crossland]

And they wrote stories. He told everyone he was a God. They lived up in the mountains in this cult, this Zeus cult, where he banged all his kids and all his kids, kids and.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And they popped out of his forehead and all that.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they made up stories, but they. They definitely had fire and electricity and they were. They were like, we gotta go smell it, though. Prometheus was like, we gotta go give the commoners the fire. And he's like, you better not. It's too dangerous to give this technology to the people. Prometheus is like, screw you, Zeus. I'm going anyway. Then you're banished. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Didn't he, like, turn himself into a duck, freaks and then bang some chick or something?

[Ian Crossland]

Probably that guy was freaky. They lied.

[Tim Pool]

Like, turned himself into a duck, I

[Ian Crossland]

think, like, just eating mushrooms every day. God knows what those guys were. That cult was doing. I like to look at, like, history. Like, it probably really happened, like some of these old stories.

[Lisa Reynolds]

So it kind of did.

[Tim Pool]

Let's talk about James Talarico texting little girls.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I was gonna say, here's.

[Ian Crossland]

I think he's.

[Tim Pool]

He looks on the subject of Zoo Zeus. Yeah, because apparently, like, Zeus was a PETA, wasn't he?

[Tate Brown]

Probably.

[Tim Pool]

James Talarico. This is a tweet that resurfaced from 2013 when he was 24. He goes, trying to help my former students pick the best high school. The job never ends. And you can see the first message from this 13, presumably 13 year old girl is I'm good. Exclamation point, exclamation point. Sir, school is getting intense. The I'm good implies he messaged her at 11:43pm and posted at 11:11. Why is a teacher texting a student at all? Why is a teacher texting a young girl student at midnight?

[Tate Brown]

And if this is what he put on Twitter, imagine what other conversations are happening.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Here's a question. Isn't he the one that's also going around being like a. He has some relation to the Evangelical church. And then I think, yeah, no, he's.

[Tate Brown]

He's a Presbyterian, but okay, so he's in the peace usa, which is the very liberal.

[Lisa Reynolds]

But he's coming out and he's actually like speaking about God and being a preacher, like on his platform. Right. Because I was just. I feel like I was just here, talk about this.

[Tate Brown]

That's his angle is he's saying, well, you know, I'm a Presbyterian. Of course, he hides the ball that he's in the PC usa, and he says, I'm one of you all you evangelicals.

[Lisa Reynolds]

But Billy Graham just came out and said he likes it the way that. I think it was this guy, the way that he's talking about Jesus on the stage. But this guy, like, this is creepy. First of all, the guy looked like a creep. Like he. You can. You can just tell. They all have the face. He has the face. Right.

[Ian Crossland]

Is this guy running as Republican or as a Democrat? Okay, so he's. He's Texas.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

Okay. Is he cool?

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, no, first of all, no Democrats. Cool. Number one. Number two is that he said something else too, though, that was a little controversial. Like, oh, he was one of the people that said God was non binary. And then he tried to walk that back a little bit. I think it's this guy.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

By saying that, like. No, what I'm just saying is God can't be quantified. And like. Right, whatever. Like, you know, human terms. But the dude's a weirdo.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, he's the one who was eating

[Tim Pool]

the chicken leg pretending that he was back into meat the other day.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, it's like boilerplate piece USA stuff where he's like, you know, we have the Christian God, but also the God of the Torah and the God of the Quran and the God of the. Whatever the Indian book is. They're all the same God. And it's like, well, we fought wars over this. Actually.

[Lisa Reynolds]

How are Democrats responding to this? I haven't been on Twitter in days because I was sick. But like, how are they responding to this? Are they upset with.

[Tate Brown]

No, I mean, the only people talking about this is like the conservative commentariat. But the thing is, the thing gotta understand about Talarico is, you know, people are now digging up all this stuff. I promise you, either Paxton or Corn and had oppo research ready to go, but they had to run against each other first. So now you're gonna see this is why everyone's like, talarigo could win. I'm like, he has so many. Not just skeletons in his closet, but skeletons that he posted on Twitter. And the reason you're not seeing Paxton and Corn and go on and on about it is because they were focused on running against each other. Now that the primary is over, the media machine can now target Talarico. He's dead. He's in the water.

[Ian Crossland]

Why did he tweet out that he was texting a 13 year old?

[Tim Pool]

Well, this was, this was, this was in 2013. This is a long time ago.

[Ian Crossland]

He tweeted it out in 2013. Why did he tweet it out?

[Tim Pool]

Because he was a 24 year old weird teacher who was texting with children and he probably wasn't famous. He wasn't well known.

[Ian Crossland]

That puts this girl makes her public. Which is weird too, to make a

[Tim Pool]

third one day information. Yeah, seriously, like the hashtag one day is weird.

[Lisa Reynolds]

The hashtag is real weird. Like one day. What are you going to get to do one day? Like that's, that's creepy vibes to me. The hashtag is even worse. Like what, what is the one day about Former students.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, so he's.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Why to me, that would read one day he's going to get his objective and do something with this.

[Tim Pool]

What else is in that hash?

[Ian Crossland]

One day she's going to go to college. Is he trying to.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's click it and see what happens. I'm actually worried about what might pop up from this. So maybe we shouldn't, we should screen it first.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, but still, one day.

[Ian Crossland]

Maybe it was just one day. She'll get into college, bro.

[Tim Pool]

Nah, it's a bunch of meaningless nonsense. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

His name reminds me of Talladega. He's got that going for him.

[Tate Brown]

That's probably the weirdest part about him is he has like a really Italian last name, but he's a Protestant. That's probably the most disturbing part of all of it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. That can't be permitted.

[Tate Brown]

What happened?

[Ian Crossland]

Was he like a Potemkin candidate? Did someone just like install this guy

[Tim Pool]

or did the Democrats are. The Democrats are betting on him because he's masquerading as a moderate Christian. Yeah. With liberal values. So they're hoping that he can get the middle of the road. The problem is he's really weird.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I think they, I think they look weird. I think they initially look, I think they initially thought he was like a more of a David French type. And then it's turned out that he's just like a literal creep.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I really think creepy.

[Tim Pool]

He's a creepy dude. And he, and he said, he said his, his campaign in 2022 had to go vegan and now he's trying to Run for a state position in the largest cattle ranching state in the country. One of the biggest cattle producers in the world.

[Lisa Reynolds]

In fact, this text message alone, like you reaching out to underage girls at 11 o' clock night, should be just an automatic disqualify.

[Tim Pool]

Disqualifying. Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And like, you put it out there, it's not like anybody's like, you know, making it up or there's any investigation that needs to be done here. You put it up there yourself.

[Tim Pool]

It's weird. Weird. She's a middle schooler talking about going to high school and he's texting with her and the Krasnsteins are losing their mind. They were like, she saw it at midnight. Doesn't mean he was talking, bro. She's actively typing. His phone says it's midnight. She's responding to his message. She just saw. And there's no timestamp on any of the other messages implying it all just happened. That's how timestamps work.

[Lisa Reynolds]

When did he tweet it out?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, shortly after 11:58.

[Tate Brown]

Well, I wonder if November 12th was a weekday or weekend too.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, that's a good point. Let's find out. Find out.

[Lisa Reynolds]

So gross.

[Tim Pool]

November 12th.

[Tate Brown]

Texting a middle schooler at 2pm on a weekday would still be weird.

[Tim Pool]

It was a Tuesday. He was texting a presume a middle schooler at. On midnight on a Tuesday.

[Tate Brown]

She should also. She should be in bed.

[Lisa Reynolds]

First of all, she shouldn't even have phone.

[Tim Pool]

Also, people have pointed out that was 11, 12, 13. That's the date. The date was 11, 12, 13.

[Tate Brown]

Hashtag, one day.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Dude, what is this world coming to? I. I think we're all cooked. I think this is done.

[Tim Pool]

I agree.

[Lisa Reynolds]

We are totally on the downward.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I mean, I think they.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Unless we have some crusades to come back, other than that, we're done.

[Tim Pool]

A crusade. Well, you know what the problem is? Like you, you, you were talking earlier about how angle like smart angles made successful countries, but they weren't. It's not that they were smart angles. It's that they were smart, brutal angles.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I mean, I'm afraid to say that stuff on your show.

[Tate Brown]

No, I mean, it's true that like,

[Tim Pool]

it is a fact that white colonists were brutal.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Well, the part that I want to

[Tim Pool]

say that you want them to go back to being brutal, Correct?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yes. I'm always like, oh, it's funny how

[Tim Pool]

whenever you come on everyone just like, she's the most based, like, I'm just

[Lisa Reynolds]

saying that, like, I really do Want that like. And I know a lot of other people moved to Uruguay way I'm thinking it's a plan. Why didn't you come along?

[Tate Brown]

It's not even necessarily that they were brutal per se. It's just that they felt like they had to write the right to civilize a region that was uncivilized. And I think that's like a perfectly natural.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the, the. The view was back then like there was a distinction between like they. The races were viewed almost like species.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Broadly. My thing is it should be.

[Tim Pool]

That's why race mixing was ill illegal. They like this is really important. Race mixing was viewed back then the way bestiality is viewed now.

[Lisa Reynolds]

You don't as much beastiality. It's kind of like no.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Pigeons doing canaries.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like back like it in miscegenation laws only went away in the past 60 years. 200 years ago. They viewed it morally similar that if a white person and a black person were together, they view that morally the same as like a dude banging a and shit Sheep.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, I'm just. I feel like because for like they said a lot of. They also thought like crime. They thought it wouldn't be productive reproductively. Like kind of like I said like a. Like a pigeon and a canary. Like how's that going?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean they were having kids. Yeah, I know lots of, lots of slave masters had mixed race kids with their slaves.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, it goes back to like anyone that is a founding stock, whether you're white or black. If you're white and a founding stock, you probably do have like a bit of black ancestry. And then black Americans will likely have a bit of white.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I think different groups existed for a reason, right? Whatever reason that would be. Whatever nature has decided that they have different people.

[Tim Pool]

Ian points out that the Tibetan fox has slanty eyes and that's why Asians have. Because of the Tibetan plains or whatever.

[Ian Crossland]

Black people probably have darker skin because of the area of the world they. Their ancestors were in. Like correct. Either was.

[Tim Pool]

Well the Tibetan fox is like the greatest image ever.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Along with that came different customs and different.

[Ian Crossland]

He kind of looks like the most Asian.

[Tim Pool]

He kind of looks like me.

[Ian Crossland]

Genghis Kai. He does look like him.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Like I'm just.

[Tim Pool]

Bro, look at this. Look at his face. He. He looks almost smug, you know, super chill.

[Tate Brown]

It's like when yeah whenever we order

[Tim Pool]

food, he's got slay.

[Ian Crossland]

Asians figured it out, dude. At least they look like they did, bro.

[Tim Pool]

He literally looks like if you were going to draw, like if you were drawing an Asian Looney Tune, you know what I mean? Like, that's what you would draw.

[Ian Crossland]

So amazing. I mean this is the most wonderful evidence of the. What race. Racial realism. Is that what it's called? Race realism? Duh. We're all different for. Because of the environment shifted our answers to.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Well, I think there's something good to that and I think those separate. I don't think that we need to blend everything so that we're all like one big, big whatever. I mean it's a very thing.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Unique and special about preserving those things.

[Tate Brown]

And it's also like very natural that you'd want your children to like, look like you.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think.

[Tate Brown]

I don't.

[Tim Pool]

I don't.

[Tate Brown]

I don't.

[Ian Crossland]

I. Because the, the value of cross breeding genetics is you get the best from both.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Now I was very worried, very worried with my Greek husband that he has. He. His genes were going to take over. They did not. My children are spitting images of all the time.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I heard that like, like it changes actually. Like the babies will look like one of the parents and then slowly over time, slowly start to look like the other parent.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I mean, they do have different.

[Tate Brown]

I mean, were you in kind of weird situation growing up where I was like, you weren't Asian enough for the Asians, but not white enough for the whites.

[Tim Pool]

That's my whole life.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I hear it's like a very common sentiment.

[Ian Crossland]

I did not like Asian.

[Tim Pool]

I was doing well. So here's the thing.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I never thought you had only.

[Tim Pool]

Only the woke American Asians, like regular. It's actually interesting. I'm. I'm only a quarter. But if I went to like Chinatown, like the old Chinese lady would be like, which one of your parents is Asian? And I'd be like, oh, you can tell. Like, oh, yeah, of course. If I go. Like when I go to. When I went to Seoul, they were all super excited. They were like, we wanted to learn more about you. And I was talking to this Korean woman. She was. She. She. She was born in America, but she did work in, In Korea. She was like, oh, they'll. North Korea will walk you right in the door. Like, if you want to go to North Korea, they'll let you in and you're a novelty. They'll like, tell us about your ancestry. Where did. How did this happen? Yeah, but the woke people are just the most vile, disgusting people. I was doing a report for Fusion on Cop Watch activists who were like, you know, filming Police and stuff like this. And one of the women was explaining to me how cops are racist and how, you know, growing up in the United States and having to deal with it. And when I agreed with her and mentioned things my family had dealt with, she attacked me immediately and said, you're not real Asian. You're not Asian enough. You don't understand what you're talking about. Talking about. She was an American. She was born in America, but she was 100%, you know, Asian of some sort.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Just reminds me.

[Tim Pool]

And that's just like the most offensive thing to me. It's like, oh, shove off. You think you're so high and mighty. You think you're so special, you know?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Reminds me of that morality study that they said. I'm going to send it to you in a second. Keep talking.

[Ian Crossland]

When you go on high winds, Tim, do you have to squint less?

[Tim Pool]

Do you feel like. I don't. I don't squint at all. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

That's nice.

[Tim Pool]

And when I. When I get into fights, punches roll off my round Korean face.

[Ian Crossland]

You're built.

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, I got exc. For a minute.

[Tate Brown]

There's that old joke about like they were holding a group of Chinese people hostage and they blindfold them with dental floss.

[Lisa Reynolds]

There's that study I want you to look at real quick. Just because you just said that in the Tim cast slack.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know if there's a drawback to having the I, I squinty eye. I don't know if that's like ethnically, is there a drawback to it epithet.

[Tim Pool]

Because. Because it is a. This, this psychobellum.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Epith Theo.

[Ian Crossland]

So like. Yeah. Does it hinder I. Oh, it is true.

[Tim Pool]

The more a person claims to be immoral. That one.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah. The more ruthlessly they treat others and the more lenient they treat themselves.

[Tate Brown]

My eyes are pretty.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Studies that have been done.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, they are, actually.

[Tate Brown]

I, I have. I have the same.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That is the left.

[Tim Pool]

The original was in Turkish.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, that's.

[Tim Pool]

You guys want to learn something really interesting. Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

But I think is Asian ancestry.

[Tate Brown]

I think my eyes might be more narrow than Tim's.

[Tim Pool]

So there's. There's a food in Turkey called Isender kap kebab. And do you know why it's called Iskander?

[Lisa Reynolds]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Because Alexander the Great, when he came in, they thought al, which means the. They thought his name was the Iskander. Yeah. So they thought the proper noun was funny.

[Ian Crossland]

Alexander.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I like that.

[Tim Pool]

Alexander. They thought it was the Iskander. Oh, isn't that crazy?

[Ian Crossland]

Where is this from?

[Tim Pool]

Turkey.

[Lisa Reynolds]

This is a turkey.

[Tim Pool]

The food. Food. Did you guys know that in Turkey they have a dessert where you pull chicken and then mix it with a milk custard until it solidifies? And I went to. I was. I was. When I was in Turkey is fantastic. I love turkey, by the way.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I like milk custard in general.

[Tim Pool]

So they have, like. It looks like a. It. So it looks like a pudding. Almost a little. A little firm, though, like a flan. And they. They burn the top with a torch. And I didn't know what it was. And I was like, oh, I'll get that dessert. And I'm eating. Eating it, and my friend, he's like, you know that's chicken, right? And I was like, what are you talking about? It's like a. It's like a pudding. And he's like, it's chicken. And I was like, you're joking. And he's like, they pull the chicken and then they mix, like, milk, sugar and egg into a custard and it's chicken.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That kind of sounds great, because then you get the protein and you get the good. Do you guys remember junket? Like, vanilla junk?

[Tate Brown]

No.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Oh, they don't even make anyone. It's the best dessert on the planet. Vanilla junket. They don't junk it. Junket. J U N K E Chicken.

[Tim Pool]

It's tuvu.

[Ian Crossland]

Ghost.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. Here, check it out. Check it out. Here it is right here. I think this is it. It's. Yeah, there you go. It's milk pudding with shredded chicken breast.

[Ian Crossland]

I bet it's delicious.

[Tim Pool]

It is amazing. Chicken house. Like, it's so good.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Any type of milk custard, I'm down for.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, Istanbul is a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.

[Ian Crossland]

Did you tour through beautiful Anatolia at all?

[Tim Pool]

No, I've been to. I've been to Istanbul and.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Anton, did you get a hay? Sophia, there's so much history.

[Tim Pool]

What's crazy is they have these bakeries where they pour the. The dough. It's like. Like little strings into a big frying vat and make these big circular grain, like fried dough discs. And then they dip the whole thing in syrup. That's what they eat.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That, like, sounds delicious.

[Tim Pool]

It's amazing. Real baklava at a real Bakalova bakery is.

[Lisa Reynolds]

You know what's better than baklava? Galato Burico. That is.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you. So, like, in Chicago, of course, we had, you know, Mediterranean restaurants and you could get baklava. And I was always like, it's good, you know, filo dough with nuts. Then I go to Taksim and they have these famous baklava shops from like the 1800s or whatever. Indescribably different. Amazing. Honey pistachio walnut.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Man, I have Greek in laws that make that homemade. It's infinitely.

[Tim Pool]

But I. I have to stress this. I have to stress something. I gotta stress this to all of the people out there who are watching this show. You must, you must. You must get yourself a wet hamburger.

[Ian Crossland]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's called the Islock hamburger. And it's just. It's. It's so good. It's street. They call it street food. But what they do is, is so we. We. We like. I'm in. I'm. I was in Istanbul for a couple weeks. So late at night when we were like, we'd hit the bar or whatever and we're like, all right, let's go back to a hotel. There's a place like right below the hotel where you take. It's a. It's a. It's a lamb burger. I think it's. It's like lamb. Ground ground lamb.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Lamb's so good.

[Tim Pool]

Put it on a bun, nothing else. And they dunk the whole thing in an oily like, tomato, pepper.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I could. I could get down know that.

[Tim Pool]

And it's like their White Castle. You ever have White Castle?

[Lisa Reynolds]

I've never had White Castle. I've never had.

[Tim Pool]

But you know what it is?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, I do know what it is.

[Tim Pool]

White Castle sliders are like that late night, I'm drunk and hungry food. And that's what a wet hamburger is. They're called islag burgers. Sliders.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, okay, so ground beef, they just

[Tim Pool]

Tomato, garlic, tomato paste, sugar, spices.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah.

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Sounds.

[Tim Pool]

And they're like a buck. And you'd walk in and just like they have them under a heat lamp and you just.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I love street food, though. Like that anywhere. I like. I just.

[Tim Pool]

I do like, oh, dude, walking down Istiklal Boulevard, the big merchant, like, boulevard in. In Istanbul. And they have big. There'll be a guy in a street corner with a big bucket full of clams. And people just walk up and they toss him some money and they hand you the clam spray some lemon. You eat it and they're literally pulled from the water, like in, like just straight up.

[Ian Crossland]

Any of those street foods oils, like in China, I've read they use gutter oil where they'll like, find odor oil in the street and use that or in India, where whatever they did the

[Tate Brown]

fried rocks, you know.

[Tim Pool]

All right, Right, we got. You guys got to get some questions in right now. We're going to get a few minutes for questions, questions. Taylor Ren's ex wife says, tim, please make one recommendation of something I should do when I'm in Seoul in July. I guess it depends on what you want to do. I'll give you a handful of recommendations. When I was there, I was there with Luke Rudkowski. We had a lot of fun. We went to this war museum, and it was the funniest thing ever, because it was like, talking about this great Korean general, this naval general, and it was like, there's little. A little diagram of the ships, the Korean ships defeating the Japanese, and you're following this timeline of his great military victories. The only problem is, it's like here at the great battle, 500 Korean ships met 500 Japanese ships, and the general won a tremendous victory. And then you, like, walk to the next display, and it's like, in the next great battle, 300 Korean ships confronted the 500 Japanese ships in a tremendous victory. They were routed. And then you walk to the next one, and it's like the general's next famous battle, where 100 Korean ships are up against 500. Jeff. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, hold on. It sounds like he's losing. Basically what they were doing was they were like, out of the 50 battles where he won three, they highlight the three great battles of this general, but he's just getting crushed the whole time. You can go to the raccoon cafes, the dog cafes. I don't recommend the dog cafes. People think you go to a dog cafe, and it's like, you eat food, and the dogs are all nice and polite. Nope. They open the door, the dogs run in, slobber, they're pissing and pooping everywhere. Jump up on the table going at you, and you gotta, like, you're not having a good time. The raccoon cafes aren't even really cafes. You just go into a building where there's raccoons sitting there eating, and it's fun. You know, you can pet them and stuff.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, I like the raccoon.

[Tim Pool]

I recommend Korean barbecue because it is the greatest thing ever. Just the best food. Healthy meat. Bulgogi. You gotta get bulgogi. Everybody knows it. And, you know, good fun, good fun. You know, Tokyo's great, too.

[Ian Crossland]

What is it about the Korean barbecue that's better than just regular barbecue?

[Tim Pool]

Korean barbecue is not barbecue. In the American sense, Korean barbecue is they give you raw meat and you cook it on the grill, right? Yeah, yeah. So if you can get marinated stuff too. But what I love about Korean barbecue is we go and I'll just say, say give me non marinated short rib and give me non marinated thinly cut pork belly. And then you eat it with some. Some kimchi.

[Lisa Reynolds]

We did that in Florida, by the way.

[Ian Crossland]

I just saw kimchi pulls microplastics out of your gut.

[Tim Pool]

So they say, this is a great

[Ian Crossland]

article I just posted on Twitter.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I gotta say, when I was a kid, I hated kimchi. Now I love it. It's amazing. And here's. And I'll give you a funny story. This one's for my daughter. When she's old enough and she can watch these old episodes. She grabs this like decently sized piece of kimchi and she puts it in her mouth and just. She's only got one tooth. She's on it. And then she goes. And then we start laughing and then she goes right back for it. And she finishes. She loves kimchi.

[Ian Crossland]

That's about how it goes.

[Tim Pool]

The funniest thing ever was when my mother in law was like, have her try blue cheese. And she's like. And so, you know, gave her the blue cheese. And it looked like she was having a seizure.

[Ian Crossland]

It's in a tire.

[Tim Pool]

She started wiping it off her tongue.

[Ian Crossland]

That's how I felt.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I still don't like blue cheese. My daughter eats raw onions. When she was a baby, she loved it. Like, my. My dad would go on the boardwalk and they had this like place where you get roast beef and they serve raw onions in a little cup and she would take them by the handful and eat them.

[Tim Pool]

I ate.

[Ian Crossland]

Let's like an apple once.

[Tim Pool]

Let's grab some of these questions. We got. As Farah says, how do you like the Chandra skate deck? I see it in frame. It's great. We put it on the magic the Gathering shelf. And you can see it now when we. When we have guests in that chair. You can see it. Appreciate it, man. Really do. It's. It's fantastic. Big magic the Gathering fan.

[Ian Crossland]

Chandra have not.

[Tim Pool]

Did you see Russia hitting a NATO country with a missile? I did. I did. I don't know, you know, I guess we. We were just kind of goofing off today. Yeah. Was it Romania who got hit?

[Tate Brown]

I think it was Romania.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah, something like that. All right, next up, here we go. We've got Doc. Doc Bone. It's just been exposed. That the bad Maryland ballots already mailed out, which voters were told have been voided, are in fact not void, and MD voters are now being told to use them. At this point, is it even possible to trust our elections at all? Oh, and Tate is a mean man for refusing to pick me up to crowd surf at the ATR show. Tate Brown held me down.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, man, I'm so sorry.

[Lisa Reynolds]

First of all, the only reason that Tate was crowd surfing at all was because I did it first.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, I know. We really need Lisa there. If you. If you felt shortchanged by the crowd surfing situation, it's because Lisa wasn't there. So that's a. Blame should actually be applied to Lisa.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, we got a question here. Let's grab. Let's see if we can get a couple more here. We got the. I. Gregor. Do you guys think people would stop immigrating here and move back if we started finding these countries for the citizens invading ours, then if they don't start paying by a certain date, we bomb certain areas and conquer it as our own.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I like this plan.

[Tim Pool]

I got to be honest. Would people stop coming here if we threatened to bomb their home countries and take over? The answer is yes, but then they'd still be here because we took their countries so they would them and send them home first. If we conquer their country, they are here. Get it?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If we make Guatemala the 51st state they are now part of, they are now here.

[Ian Crossland]

If we bomb, they don't pay the fines first. Right.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Can we make it a state and not let them have a. I have

[Tim Pool]

a. I have a question for you, Lisa. They say that, you know, there are people who say, like, we should turn the Middle east to glass. What substance would Guatemala turn into? It's not sand. It wouldn't become glass smoldering ash. But that's not funny. Glass is funny because of the implication, you know?

[Lisa Reynolds]

Yeah, I don't care what it turns.

[Tate Brown]

I think it would improve. I think Guatemala.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Stop bothering us.

[Tate Brown]

Guatemala would just improve overnight.

[Tim Pool]

But they no longer have bananas.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Wouldn't that. Wouldn't the soil eventually, like, as long as we didn't do with like, chemical radioactive stuff, wouldn't it eventually, like, turn over and all that organic material would go in and like, get back into the soil and become extreme?

[Tate Brown]

We're trying to help fertile.

[Tim Pool]

What we need is an alligator moat stretching the entire southern border. Wasn't that. Wasn't that.

[Tate Brown]

Why don't we put.

[Tim Pool]

They claim Trump suggested that.

[Tate Brown]

Why don't we put Piranhas in the Rio Grande that would start over.

[Ian Crossland]

Are they not already in it?

[Tate Brown]

I don't know. We need only an African.

[Lisa Reynolds]

We're just toast. Anyway, like, I'm sorry, I say we

[Tim Pool]

all go to Uruguay. There's a lot more to the. There's a lot more to the question. But he adds related to the cousin talk earlier, what if that is the real reason population is decreasing? It's because large chunk of the population just isn't into it anymore since they can't be related. That's why immigrants are reproducing at higher rates. Why are you saying they're all banging their cousins?

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, I just think it's because women are brainwashed and they've been. Their minds have been polluted and that's the real problem.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, Haiti says. I appreciate you informing me about some of the info I missed yesterday involving Massey's poll. I might have been better informed if you came around and talked on occasion here in what is supposed to be your discipline discord question for the panel. How can we get Vivek charged for the volumes of fraud he committed with the miserably failed Alzheimer's medicine and get Casey Putsch into the running for governor? Can we get Trump to hold him accountable? If not, who do we go to? Nobody. Because Trump's Pro H1B.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Just also of all. I've got to be nice. It's a problematic.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I want. You know what I can't stand ever. You want what?

[Lisa Reynolds]

I want no one else to come in here ever, ever again.

[Tim Pool]

Why?

[Lisa Reynolds]

I don't even want you to visit.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's time to go to.

[Lisa Reynolds]

That's like, let's. That's what we should do.

[Tim Pool]

I made a post after Massey made his post and I said, what is the greatest threat to liberty? United States. And I said, Russia, China, Iran. Not Israel though. They're great. Those are your choices. And then all the anti Israel people were so mad. Be like, well, I'm going to pick it anyway. And I'm like, so you think Israel's great?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Trap.

[Tim Pool]

It's a trap. All right, everybody smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, it's been fun. This is great. It was a fun day. Yeah. Fridays are always just so chill and so much more fun. That's why I was like, let's just roll. And you know, I'm gonna start playing

[Ian Crossland]

music again on Fridays. Carter, about that.

[Tim Pool]

We've talked about doing it. Yeah, it's always fun having Lisa around when she says things like she wants to get rid of sand countries or whatever.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I still mean to stand by it 100%. Do not mince words.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, do you wanna, you wanna shine anything out?

[Lisa Reynolds]

No, just. Thank you for having me. It's been good to be down here. I, I, I should stop in a little more. It's just such a long.

[Tim Pool]

We set up the DC studio and

[Lisa Reynolds]

I'll be down all the time.

[Tim Pool]

But we're hoping to have one screen ride. We're, we're, we're, we're looking to set up a temporary one almost immediately as we build out a full set and it's going to be crazy. It's going to be a lot crazy.

[Lisa Reynolds]

Talk to them Monday. So I'll get more info then.

[Tate Brown]

Y, yeah, you can follow me on Instagram at Real Tate Brown. Come give me a follow. And make sure you follow. She won't ever shout out. She's too humble. Make sure you follow Lisa Reynolds on Twitter. That's, that is vital, a vital essence. You're missing out on vital title, Patriot correspondence. If you're not following.

[Lisa Reynolds]

I honestly don't want people to think like, that. I'm trying to be an influence or something. I've never tried to grow any of my pages. Like, that's not my mo.

[Tate Brown]

I've seen you, like, tell people to unfollow you, but the following count still goes up.

[Lisa Reynolds]

It does.

[Tate Brown]

People just are desperate to hear from you.

[Lisa Reynolds]

And also, I'll try. Maybe I should tweet a little more. I was, I was making a couple hundred bucks a month for a minute,

[Ian Crossland]

but that's where it's at now. I just retweet at Twitter. Follow me at Ian Crossland on the Internet. I'm pretty much all over the place, so hit me up anytime. I probably won't respond. Good to see you. Carter Banks, he won't respond, but he reads everything. And I also read the ones that

[Tim Pool]

I'm tagged in talking about swear jars and whatnot.

[Ian Crossland]

But you can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and the label, Trash house Records on YouTube.

[Tim Pool]

Tim, we'll see you guys with clips throughout the weekend. We're back on Monday. Thanks for hanging out.