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Today, a leftist anti ICE extremist firebombed a federal building in Manhattan dumping what appears to be a bucket full of gasoline with smaller bottles of gas presumably onto these stairs in front of the building, setting it on fire before lobbing mortars into the flames. There were two injuries reported. They quickly subdued this individual. Been reported that he was an anti government extremist or known to have anti ICE sentiments in the past. So of course there are many people worried about potential for escalation. But what we heard from Mark Wayne Mullen, secretary of DHS as well as Trump, is that they will be taking action against states as it pertains to elections. We're hoping that Todd Blanch, who has been pretty decisive since he became ag, are going to take actions against these individuals. And of course, we watched this dude get arrested and there is a video of him doing all of it. It's pretty dang crazy. We're gonna talk about that. We got. This is a big one, my friends. I'm gonna get built up to suspense. Bill Maher says he might actually vote Republican. Bill Maher. We got him, boys. It's been a, it's been a minute, but Bill's finally coming around and he said the Democrats are communists. They say it's just socialism, but he's hearing what they're saying and he's not going to vote for these communists. So he is considering voting for JD Vance, one of the principal reasons Trump's not going to be running. And he says, since Trump is out, I'll consider voting for Vance. I'm willing to bet Bill Maher votes Republican in 2028. I'm willing to make a, make a gentleman's bet on that one. And, you know, I'd actually love to sit down with him in a couple of years, maybe in a year and a half, see where he's at. Following these midterms, we've got, well, we've got clips of these DSA types. And more importantly, as it pertains to what Bill Maher is saying, when you take a look at Maine, Ashley Webb. I'm not trying to be mean to Ashley Webb, but this is a biological man who claims to have. I gotta be careful. I say this because right at the top of the show, I try not to get the, you know, graphic or anything like that. Medical issues pertaining to one's backside because they think they're a woman with no front side. And this is an individual who is a potential nominee for the Democratic Party to win in Maine, for which the prediction markets say the Democrat is likely to win in Maine. I don't think it's even about communism, Bill. You take a look at some of these people. It's a question of sanity. So we'll talk about that and a lot more before we get started. We got a great sponsor for you. It is Tax Network USA. Head over to tnusa.com Tim Y' all own back taxes, owe back taxes, or have unfiled tax returns. Have you filed every year but you still keep owing? Did you retire and suddenly get hit with a tax bill you did not expect? Maybe you put your money in your 401k or you pulled money from your 401k early and now the IRS wants its share. Whatever your issue is or have it started, the outcomes the same. Your balance is not going down, penalties are growing, interest compounds, and many of you are about to owe again for this upcoming tax year with no plan. Stop what you're doing now and call Tax Network usa. The IRS is not waiting. They're enforcing collections through wage garnishments, bank levies and property seizures. They can even file for you without your consent. This is where Tax Network USA comes in. With over 15 years in the business, there hasn't been a tax case they haven't seen or resolved. They specialize in tax controversies and help taxpayers nationwide get back on track by resolving back taxes and unfollowed returns once and for all. Whether you owe 10,000 or 10 million, their team has resolved over $1 billion in tax debt and they can do the same for you. But you gotta call. Now. They're offering a free investigation call with the RS irs. After that investigation, they put a clear case plan in place to resolve your tax problem and get you back on track. It's about using your legal rights to take control before the government sets the terms for you. So don't wait. Call 866-686-1535. That's 866-686-1535 or visit tn USA.com/tim don't forget to also go to Tim cast.com click join now. Get in the Discord community. There's tens of thousands of people hanging out every sing. They got morning shows, they got afternoon shows. We've got a call in Hangout every day at 6pm and an after show. You can call in to Tim cast IRL through the discord Monday through Thursday at 10pm Support the work that we are doing here by joining us@timcast.com and don't forget to smash that like button share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We've got Ben Berkwum.
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What's going on, brother?
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Who are you? What do you do?
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I've a communist hunter, I should say
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or confront communist revolutionary.
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Yeah, that's. Yeah. Rather than the. The revolutionary communist. I'm a guy that got fed up with how things were going in California about 10 years ago, got set free from crack addiction and put my life back on God's track. And I've spent the last nine years covering the illegal invasion of America. Four years of that under Biden. Do a show on Real America's Voice called Law and Border. Work with Steve Bannon and some great guys over there and travel the country and it's, you know, expose the left. God, family and country has been my, my foundation for years and it's really just about saving the country for my kids generation. And right now I've got my first book Step into Fear coming out that will be actually launching through War room Books on September 8th and I'll be doing book tour on that. But riding with ICE and Border Patrol across the country. Spent four years exposing the invasion of Joe Biden. Now spending four years with President Trump. ICE Tom Homan and Border Patrol exposing the traitors within. Like the jackass who set the fire today. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If that's a word I can say on.
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We've got, we've got some information.
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The not good guy.
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Right on. Did that so well, it should be, should be great. It's good to have you.
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Honored to be with you, brother.
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We got the boys.
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Yeah. What's going on? Patriots tape. Brown holding it down. I have to give a special shout out. It's my parents 30th anniversary this week. They're watching Patriot Mom, Patriot Dad. So I don't know if you guys have any marriage advice. DM me and then I'll text it to them and then I'll relay what they say. So love you guys.
D
Marriage advice is don't get divorced if you want your marriage to last.
C
That's seemingly one of the big ones. Yeah.
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Don't take my advice from your parents. Congrats, Tate's parents.
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Cheers.
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I'm Phil Abonti, lead singer, Heavy Metal Hand. All that remains.
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What's up, Carter? What's up, dude?
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I'm Carter Banks.
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Let's get into it. Here's a story from ABC News. Anti government extremists sets off incendiary device outside federal building in New York. FBI Andrew Arabica Arabaka, 43, is a former soldier who served from 01 to 2005. I love they're calling this person an anti government extremist because it's pretty apparent this individual is a leftist anti ice. We have this video. Matt Van Swole posted it saying, I've seen enough. These people hate America. They want to destroy our country. This was obviously a terrorist attack and this man should have a speedy trial and then be. And then immediately be executed. This post has 2.6 million views and counting. This is. This is terrifying. The reason I highlight this is. Guys, I'm going to say it. I said it before. Said again. I don't want anybody to die. We have a very serious challenge when this individual, I believe has a bucket. It appears to be a bucket full of gasoline with smaller bottles that I believe are full of fuel. What this does is when you set off the fuel, it takes a while for the bottles to heat up, but then they explode first from the pressure and then they go off like mini Molotovs. We have this video. I'm going to play this for you now, guys. This happened in New York this morning. You can see the individual in question dumping this on the stairs. You see these bottles? Yeah. I'm assuming those are bottles of fuel, but I'm not entirely sure. And then just immolates the front of the building. Now this video actually cuts, but the person in question runs, grabs, grabs mortars, runs back over and begins throwing them. You can see the police are now running up. Someone appears to have dropped a bag and a drink.
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Almost look like another bucket.
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Oh, I think this might be the full video with the mortar. There it is. Yeah. Actually you can see the mortar. Watch this.
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Wow.
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It's gonna blow up. And then they get tackled. That motor took a while to take off. Oh, okay. Someone else filmed the mortar. It seems is wild.
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Whoa, some baggy pants, man.
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Yeah, not the best pants to wear if you're gonna.
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So actually let's go back to this. To this spot right here. You can see the individual running up and they throw something into the fire. There's actually another video filmed from another window just over and over. And you can see that it's a. It's a. It's a mortar. Now here's what's crazy. The initial reporting from NBC was that fireworks went off. Fireworks, of course. And then abc, I believe it was ABC reported initially it was smoke bomb let off. And it was because the fire extinguisher let off steam. They were calling it. This is irresponsible and insane because at the time they published these articles, I had already seen the full video that had been published. Any one of these reporters could have tracked that this guy was trying to cause massive damage. And you got to understand this is, I call this a low grade terror because he didn't like come up with C4 or a machine gun. But fire is extremely dangerous and damaging. A child understands this dumping fuel, if somebody, if so you can actually see he gets himself, his feet are on fire and then as he runs away, the fire goes out. But if that spread into the bushes, that could have been extremely difficult to put out. Now I don't think he was going to be able to actually set fire to a steel and concrete building. That's why those bottles are in the bucket. I'm assuming those are full of field as well, intending for secondary explosions after the fact.
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Yeah, my big concern on that, it's just like the White House Correspondents Dinner. You have one person that does that and then you've got, you know, you've got these nuts across America now that have been incentivized to do this by the radical left, by these activist organizations against ice, against whatever. And, and you've got mainstream media that covers it up and that's, you know, know you've got, you got one of these guys that does this, okay, you put it out, you get it under control. But if you have 20 of these guys doing it, 20 different locations across a city, it's, that's what we're heading towards if we don't get this under control.
D
So just this past, I guess, I think it was on Friday, Secretary Rubio was at, well, gave a speech or whatever. I think that, I think Miller was there as well. But he outlined a lot of the problems that the west has been facing from far left radicals. And to your point, like the media has been almost complicit in this because they do everything they can to downplay it. They do everything they can to minimize it. And yet over and over and over we see terror attacks and murders by leftists. And there's very rarely any kind of narrative that comes from the media that actually articulates what's really going on. There are people that are starting to see it. I mean, to Tim's point earlier, Tim was talking about Bill Maher. He sees that there are communists on the left. You hear the dsa, the way they speak. They're clear and open about their goals and they are revolutionaries. Even though these people are running for office. And some of them are attaining office. There are still, there are actual revolutionaries on the ground that want to completely get rid of our, of the, the government as we know it. Right. Like, one of the things that you hear talk about is to abolish the Senate. Well, the Senate is one of the only things in the Constitution that can't be abolished with an amendment. You'd have to get rid of the whole Constitution. And that's the goal of the left, is to actually destroy the country as we know it and change the entire makeup of our government. And it's something that we need more people talking openly about and pointing the finger. And we need people at least on the, in the, on the right wing that are clear and, and open about what's actually happening. And I, you do see it, you see the, the administration talking about it. The White House is, is tweeting about it. Like I said, Secretary Rubio had a speech about it. So it's good to see that the, the government and is naming what's actually going on. And it's going to take a while for. But it's going to take a while for people to actually realize exactly how dire the circumstances are.
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Well, yeah, and then you also have just, I've said it on the show before, you just have a high concentration of people with absolutely nothing to lose in this country. And that's really the scariest part, ultimately, because it's one thing to have this radical ideology. You know, you see a lot of these DSA types and they typically their, their activism just manifests in political action or demonstrations etc, but you have a large proportion of people that literally have nothing to lose. So as soon as they pick up those talking points, they get violent immediately. And that's what's so worrying. And I can't say I'd necessarily disagree with Matt Van Swall. I think that's how you say his name has his copy that he put on that, that tweet. Because that guy was fully intending on killing a ton of people. He was fully intending on that terrorist attack actually manifesting it being much worse than it ended up being. Thankfully, the guy is incompetent, mentally unstable, so he probably couldn't pull it off. But who's to say that the next guy to your point won't pull that off? And yeah, you got to drop the hammer on this guy because again, he forfeited his life when he did that. I'm sorry. You know, people get really skittish about, you know, the death penalty and this, that and the other. But these are certain Instances where it's not just like, you know, a murder. As bad as that is, this is quite literally an attempted terrorist attack on the federal government. I'm sorry, you forfeited your life. You're done. I don't, I don't trust that if you spend 30 years in the slammer and you come back out, that you're not going to go and do the same thing. You've already demonstrated you are a complete drain on society. Mentally unstable. You're done.
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I mean, look, I agree with you, but the point of incarceration is not to rehabilitate. It is to remove people from society.
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Correct.
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If you cannot, cannot be in society and behave like a normal person, and if you're engaging in revolutionary, active, revolutionary violence, you're not a normal person.
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So just to clarify, the death. This is, this is 18 USC 111. It actually does. 18 USC 1114 and 18 USC 2332 B. All of the laws pertaining to attacks on federal law enforcement, particularly with use of terror, do they do carry a potential for death penalty. But that being said, I don't think starting a fire is going to rise to that level. The interesting thing is I believe it's. Yeah, it's up to 20 years in prison. If a, if. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm completely wrong. This. The use of a deadly weapon in and of itself is, is. Can be punished by the death penalty.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's actually.
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I did not expect, like I'm mortars. I'm sure the guy who hates the government enough to attack them with a firebomb will crack, cool down after spending 20 years in prison. I'm sure that'll, that'll de. Radicalize him. No, he'll be like more fired up.
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But the problem is he won't spend 20 years and he'll spend only until the next administration. So he gets pardoned because, I mean, Bill Clinton, who was what people consider a quote, unquote normal Democrat, he was pardoned. He pardoned the people that bombed the, the, the Congress.
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I'm going to clarify. I think it's actually wrong. I think the use of an incendiary device or bomb is punishable by life in prison or the death penalty if a fatality occurs. So considering there are only a couple of minor injuries, I don't think this is going to rise to that level. However, it does look like the use of the deadly weapon will incur a maximum of 20 years in PR. Like this guy is going to get 20 years. It's going to be the maximum. And. And potentially this could result in multiple instances according to United States code. It could be active trend of terror. It could be an act of terrorism. Is 18 USC known 2332B. And it could also be destruction of government property and assault on federal officers. Multiple for the officers who were there that had to deal with that. In fact, a couple of officers ran out with their guns drawn in this video. I think this dude might get multiple charges.
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He's lucky he didn't get shot.
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I mean it's because they subdued him right away.
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And. But this is the bigger thing kind of going back to we were talking about earlier the. Until we start seeing massive prosecutions against the organizations that are all behind this, the communist organizations that want to totally destroy our country. Bill Mar is finally waking up to. It's. You know, it's that. That's what we. And that I'd say that's what Mag is waiting for is mass prosecutions. We want mass deportations and mass prosecution.
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They have to be successful. Because the point is, right, it can't just be that there's some lawfare against them. If you were to. If you can use lawfare against normal people and change their behavior because they're like, oh man, I don't want to deal with this. That there's the phrase the punishment or the, the process is the punishment. Right. That works for normal people. People like that who have no. Nothing to lose, who are being funded by or who are being. Who are. Who are getting their defense by the National Lawyers Guild, who are being funded by NGOs or. Or you know, leftist organizations. They have nothing to lose. So it's not just about prosecuting. You have to put them in jail. So they're a long time or forever. There's.
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There's actually more charges. I'm digging this up as we go. 18 USC, 8 USC 844, which because of the minor injury sustained could result in a charge, a penalty of seven to 40 years as well. So it looks like this dude is potentially facing like five or six different charges, in which case he's probably getting life in prison for this.
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That's. That's the best solution.
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Yeah. Otherwise he's another martyr, a hero for the left, which he will be anyways just because he did that. I mean, that's the crazy thing.
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Now to your point, it is better for them to go to jail than to be put to death, I think put. To get put in jail forever because then they don't have the martyr, you know, They're. Then they're. Then they're a political prisoner. And it's not the same as. As when they're what, the island. I. I love, love the idea of sending them to Australia.
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New York has already have Guantanamo.
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Rikers.
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We have Guantanamo, too.
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I mean, look, I think New York has. What is. Is it Rikers Island?
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It's perfect. It's like.
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And.
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And. And, you know, it was a. De Blasio was trying to, like, break it up and get rid of it. And it's like, dude, this is like, what every city dreams of is having an island just for criminals, and you can just, like, forget about them. You see it on the approach from LaGuardia, and you're like, oh, geez, we'll try not to look that way. Like, that's all that really happens there. I'm like, they could just. There's a little bridge. Blow that up and just leave them there.
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Turn the lights on. Turn the lights back on at Alcatraz.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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Thinking Alcatraz is perfect.
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They were like, oh, too many prisoners were dying and trying to escape.
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Right.
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You're feeding sharks. I won't eat me. Now they're full.
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I think you make a miniseries on Alcatraz and see, you know, if you can get it free, if you can get across. You got it. You're set.
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I'm not. Are you saying if you can get off of Alcatraz.
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Yeah, yeah.
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How about.
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How about.
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How about.
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Who wants to read here? Tate. Read this headline.
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Add some more.
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Read this NBC headline.
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Army veteran ignites fire, sets off fireworks outside New York City Federal Building. FBI says.
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Yep.
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That is not at all what has been described as happening. He dumped. You know, he's an army veteran.
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He just lit a little fire and saw his surname. He's Spanish. You're celebrating the Spain.
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That might have been it. It might have been the World Cup.
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Yeah. He was very excited.
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Yeah.
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Sets fire. Pretty sure when you dump a bucket of fuel, light it up, and then throw explosives into it, they're not setting a fire and lighting off fireworks. That is. That is minimizing.
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Did he bring the bucket full of fuel in his vehicle, or did he pour into the bucket.
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Probably. Probably a gas station. And just filled it.
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How did all this happen?
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He had bottled up fuel in, like, tiny Coke bottles.
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The thing was huge. Where the police just like, oh, wow, his car must be really empty.
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It's like, nobody. I mean, look, you're walking on the street carrying a bucket of gas. No one's gonna know it's gas.
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It's like a big red cam.
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Yeah.
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But no, no, it's not orange. It was an orange bucket. There's a lot of crazies and, and you, you might smell it, but you don't know what you're smelling. It's New York. New York smells like sour milk.
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Yeah.
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It's a great point upgrade.
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Yes.
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Especially when it's high. Gas prices are high. Gas smells even better.
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What was that joke? There's a joke on Rick and Morty where I think it was summer and she's like, this, help. This place smells like gas. And at first I liked it, but I'm getting lightheaded.
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Yeah, it's like when gas prices are high, the gas stations don't smell like gas because everyone's making sure they get every drop. When gas is low, you're just letting it fly.
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Yeah. They're having gas fights like in Zoolander.
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Yeah.
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Cheap people.
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Classic movie.
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But yeah, look, the, the fact that this guy was picked up, like, it's a good thing, but they need to do more. They need to do a lot more. Like there was a thing on the post Millennial today. Andy. No reports that the State Department had links to Antifa's lawyers to, to. Or the State Department links Antifa's lawyers to decades of Cuban communist influence. The National Lawyers Guild. They are ev. They're just as down with Antifa as, as any of the podcasters are that. Are, that are, you know, bread tubers. If they, if you, they still call it bread tube or whatever. But the fact of the matter is they have free defense and they use the system that they want to destroy against the American people.
A
Is bread tube a reference to breadlines?
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I'm not sure. I don't know, to be honest with you, where it came from.
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Let's, let's jump to the story. We've got this from Fox News. Bill Maher admits he could vote for J.D. vance warns cowardly Democrats face socialist takeover. Let's. Let's roll tape.
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That's will do very well in the midterms.
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2028 is a different story because by
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then this wing of the party, this
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new wing with all the energy and
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it's not just a few people anymore.
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I read every day I read about
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a new person in some Colorado and Wisconsin, somebody who is saying some variation
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of not defund the police, abolish the police.
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No prisons, no police.
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Like, what world do they think we could possibly live in under these conditions? It's just a level of nutty that I'm so glad that whenever it was,
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I was like, no, I'm not going
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along because this is where it ends.
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Could you see yourself voting for J.D.
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vance?
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Yes.
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If this is the, the Democratic side, yes. There it is, big time. We got them, boys. We got him. Look, I paid attention to the news the whole time. So, you know, Obama, Trump versus Hillary. I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. I was not interested. I said, these people are all crazy. Then I watched what happened over four years and I said, okay, I'm gonna vote for Trump. I didn't want to at first. I was supporting Yang and Tulsi, and then they put up Joe Biden. I said, that's not happening. I know exactly what Biden's gonna represent, what he's gonna be. So I voted for Trump. And it was around this time in the 2010s where Bill Maher seemed to have stopped paying attention to the news. And what I said about him was that he's got a team that does the news for him. Shows up. They say, here's the news. He says, okay, he's not really paying attention anymore. And that's why he did not know what was happening with weird woke stuff. Well, in the past several years, Bill Maher has been paying attention and calling all of this woke stuff out and the socialism. And he's coming back. He's coming back to his roots. And he is now entering a position that many of us experienced six years ago. Hey, better late than never. I got no beef. I'm a big fan. He's now saying, I can't believe what Democrats have turned into. I'm out. And many of us have experienced this. This is, this is. This is good news because the Democrats are going to lose their coalition over this and they're going to be a bunch of wacky socialists with weird views saying point of personal privilege. My pronouns are she, they. And regular people are going to be like, I'm out. And that's what we've been seeing. This, actually, I think Bill Maher thinks Democrats are going to do well in these midterms, and the prediction markets say seems likely, but I'm not convinced it's a done deal. I think Republicans still have a chance to turn this around, particularly on the procedural efforts. One, Trump got that win over universal mail in votes. They're going to allow the post office, what is it? There's going to be a barcode or something determining citizenship status or something to that effect. And then, of course, you have, as I mentioned, the redistricting efforts. So this is a major victory for the right on procedure, which may help Republicans actually hold hold the House.
D
The Democrats and Democrat Party now is turning into like the Bolsheviks versus the Mensheviks. Right? Like the, the DSA types are like the Bolsheviks. They're, they're not a majority, but they have a lot of energy. And the, the average Democrats that are saying, well, you know, we can work with them, we can bring them into the fold, et cetera, they're going to get swamped. They're going to get absolutely annihilated by the, the extreme left wing of the Democrat Party. We, you know, people have been talking about it and saying, look, there's a lot of communists that are actually in the Democrat Party. There, There's a lot of communists that are winning local elections, smaller elections. And this is, this is something that's materializing now. Like people in the Democrats really need to wake up and realize that they're on the chopping block, too. The far left has a saying, liberals get the bullet too. And they, they go after the, the, the normal Democrats just as viciously as they go after anyone on the right wing because they, they'll, they'll say things like, scratch a liberal and you'll. And a fascist bleeds all that stuff. They look at anyone that's not as extreme as they are as just another fascist.
B
Or look at Hassan Piker's speech this last weekend. I mean, it's like exactly that.
A
He's praising Mao.
B
Yeah. I mean, they're not hiding it anymore. And it's that, it's that coalition of jihadism. It's the red green jihadism and communism. And to your point, unless we actually prosecute these guys, the attorneys guilds and all this. That's why I say it's gotta be a RICO case. All gotta go down. Otherwise we're, we're screwed as a nation.
D
Yeah, it has to be RICO case. They all have to go to prison for a long, long time.
C
As far as the Democrat divide, I saw an interesting take from Sarnovich today on Twitter where he was saying that Rahm Emanuel is who he suspects may end up winning a primary.
A
Yeah, I saw that.
C
Yeah, he, he was, he was, he was making a few different cases for why. But one of the main ones is actually sort of compelling, is that if the prime Democrat primary becomes all about Israel, Rahm Emanuel can take the position of like, well, Netanyahu is a, you know, troublemaker, but, like, you know, we have to stand with Israel. That's like that's going to concentrate a lot of capital around him. A lot of like sort of that older Democrat base because, you know, a Democrat primary for president is not the same as, you know, a district in
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New York City or they don't usually happen.
C
It's going to be, well, true and it's going to be like black voters up first. That's usually how it goes. So it's like, you know, someone like Rahm or potentially Kamala will pick up a lot of the energy. But Kamala might just be sacrificing the kind of establishment wing because she was courting Zoron and picking up some different progressive talking points.
D
And she has, she has Marxists in her family. She. And I don't think she's actually particularly smart. So she doesn't have the natural aversion.
B
Nobody likes her.
D
Yeah, well, that's true.
B
At least Emmanuel's likable.
D
Yeah, well, she doesn't have, she doesn't have the natural aversion to the far left because she was raised around it. So she thinks that she can work with these people. And again, she's not smart enough to realize how dangerous they are.
A
No, the issue is that the Democrats, when Trump won, became desperate and in their desperation, they turned to a group of people that they did not quite understand. So they have brought in the crazy thinking that it's going to benefit them. But it's like the one ring. You cannot wield this power. No one can. And so that's two movie references in one political statement. So I worked really hard for that.
B
I was at the Democrat convention this last year and it was wild. I mean, you go inside it and it's a bunch of lunatics that know what gender they are and they actually had the mixed gender bathrooms. That was wild. I'm not going to get into details on that, but we'll do that in the second half. Or the, the. No, Bard. The. But the crazy thing was the. The actual base of the Democrat Party was outside of the DNC outside wanting to burn it down.
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Yeah.
B
And that's who's really running the Democrat Party. It's the communists that were outside the fence that are really pulling the strings on what was going on inside.
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It was wild. This was 2016. Yeah, they had the DNC and the RNC. The RNC had almost no protests. And we all showed up thinking like, aren't going to big protests. And then the DNC had all of them and they were trying to tear the barricades down and they were screaming. There were Thousands of people, they took over. Yeah, the Republicans. Trump just came in, he knocked that door down like a bull.
C
Well, that's what made Cernovich's tweet kind of jump out to me because, like, I hadn't really thought about that, but I'm like, what if someone runs? That really becomes the referendum on Obama, as in, how much, you know, how much influence does Obama still have, the party? What do the current Democrat base think about Obama? I mean, you need someone out there like that. It's kind of a heat check on, like, where's Obama's stance? Because if it's like, I don't know, just hypothetically, a Kamala versus Rahm Emanuel race, I mean, that becomes. Is Obama still the head honcho around here, or is it truly the DSA party now? I mean, that's ultimately what it would come down to because again, if Zoron is the House intellectual for Kamala, that tells you where the party's at.
D
There's.
C
From there, they'll get smacked in a primary, in a general. But that's neither here nor there.
D
There's so many, quote, unquote, normal Democrats that are simping for Zoran right now. I don't think that they. That they have the. I don't think that they have the. The. The ability to take the party to the center.
B
Yeah, yeah, they've lost that. I think the last election was the last time. I mean, look at it taken away from him.
D
Yeah. Look at how many. How many normal Democrats were like, you know what? I guess I'm going to vote for Trump because I don't like this, that there's a lot of people that went from voting for Bernie and then they went to Trump, and there's just not a lot of energy in the center left at all. It's. It's all on the, on the far left.
C
And also, like, I think the DSA is kind of in this moment that Trump was in not too long ago. As far as previously, Trump and the GOP had a bunch of reluctant allies. So it was people that hated his guts, wanted him gone, but they would, like, pay lip service and go on Fox and be like, president Trump's doing a great job. But then as soon as they smelled blood in the water and DeSantis ran, they all turned their knives on him. He was leading allies to Charlie Kirk's massive credit. And he never gets enough credit for this is he was like, one of the only main figures that was like, nope, Trump still a guy like, I don't care what? DeSantis, he's a great governor. Thank you for your service. But, like, we're sticking with Trump, so fair play to him, obviously. But in addition to that, like, the dsa, I think, is kind of in this moment now, where it's turning from reluctant allies to a lot of these establishment Democrats are just like, all right, I guess the DSA may just be in the driver's seat. We just got to play ball.
A
And the thing about DeSantis is that he launched it. His campaign on X. Yeah. There's no visibility. And his opening line was, I'm here to lead the great American comeback.
B
Yeah, he wasn't.
A
It was the least inspiring.
C
He had, like, a really boring movie trailer and the beltway. I'm sure DeSantis was far more popular than Trump, but I think they quickly realized that Trump has a lot of loyalty in their public. And people are still finding this out. Like, these guys are still trying to run anti Trump campaigns and losing, and they just keep coming up different reasons for why. And I'm like, the most obvious explanation here is that Trump is just really popular. I know that's, like, hard for people to wrap their heads around, but, like, go talk to, like, just average primary voters in the Republican Party. It's like older white people, they love Trump.
B
There's no way around right now for this.
A
I will say this.
B
Everywhere I go across the country, it's maga.
A
With. With Bill Maher saying he's considering Vance. I think people need to realize when the boomers are gone, it's going to swing.
B
Yeah.
A
Far left.
B
Yeah. Well, and this is the big question real quick.
A
Just. Bill Maher represents the boomer Democrat, and they're more moderate, and they are. Bill Maher is 70, with all due respect. You know, I don't. I don't mean to be morbid. They don't got a lot of time left.
B
Yeah.
A
And the young people are going to take over in their commies.
B
This is what scares me is where we're at now, people think it's bad now. Where the left is 20 years from now, what's being indoctrinated in our universities and our. In our elementary schools, it's going to be far worse. And so we think these guys are bad. What's coming is putting you in rail cars and sending you off to the chambers. And the question I have is, can we, on our side, get out of our own way long enough.
A
Sounds like you're suggesting there's gonna be some kind of revolution or that's what
B
they Want, I mean, that's what they want. They want that. That's what they're, I mean, they're not even pretending anymore. They're not even telegraphing it. That's what they're saying. There's no revolution is the only answer. And when you listen to these guys, it's like, no, listen to what they say. They mean what they say. That's what they want. And my question is, can you imagine if we got out of our own way and stopped fighting ourselves? I mean, you look at the right, we win the House, the Senate and the presidency. And what do we do after Charlie Kirk's assassinated, like two weeks after his memorial, Amazing memorial, Country comes back together, revival's happening, and then you see our side, the division, start fighting ourselves.
D
I mean, let's go ahead.
A
You want to have one more? I was gonna jump to the next story.
D
Well, everything you're saying is true, but you bring up like I see people talk about how the right controls the House, the Senate and the executive and it's like, yes, but the, the margins are so thin. To, to expect there to be anything that actually gets done is, is just, I think it's expecting too much. The, the, the point of the way that our system is set up is to move slowly. And then you throw in the fact that the House and the Senate both have very narrow margins to, to say that the, the Republicans control it. They don't. They have a majority. But it's so thin to, to. Unless you have a super majority, you don't get to go in there and just do whatever you want. So, but go ahead. I'm sorry, I want.
A
From media iTunes. Oh, CNN Data Guru flags warning sign for Democrats in the midterms. It's, it's bad news for Dems. There's no guarantees here. Let's, let's roll the tape. We've been talking about the fact that Democrats might be waking up this morning a wee little bit nervous. Why is that? Well, there's new polling out this weekend which suggests that while they are leading in the so called generic ballot test, the race for Congress, it's not by much and certainly maybe not by enough.
C
With us now, CNN chief data analyst Harrietten.
A
So the numbers show what, Harry? They show a big oh worry sign, at least compared to history. Because I want to take it back through the history machine. I want to note, okay, House national July, cnbc, Washington Post poll, average midterm years. This is the generic ballot, right? Where were we back in 2006? When of course Democrats are going back on to win the House. They were up by 12 in an average of those two polls. How about 2018? They were up by an average of 10 in those two polls. Look at where that average is now. Well less than half of either the level of 2018 and 26. Way down there. Yes, they're ahead, but they're had. I have to shrink down on the screen. They're ahead by only four points, which is significantly less than what we saw in 2018 and 22,006 when Democrats took back the House. So as I said, this is an. Oh, this is a warning sign. While yes, Democrats are ahead not by anywhere near the margin they were in prior wave years. Because 4 isn't 10.
D
No.
A
And it's not 12. No, no. They taught me that back in Pre
D
K that 4 is not 10 or 12.
A
And not only that, but Seattle might not be enough with all the redistricting we've seen. That's exactly right, Johnny B. So this isn't just, hey, you know what? We want to lead by 8, 8 or 10 or 12 because we want an even larger majority. You might not even get the majority
D
at all if in fact the House
A
popular vote ends up by four, because just take a look at this, okay, the Washington Post CNBC poll lead, it's four on average. Right. But what about needed to control with registering, you need probably a 3 to 4 point victory nationwide in the national House vote in order to get a House majority. You are right on the edge with this four point lead in the average of the cnbc, Washington Post Post, right on the edge of even getting that majority. And that's why I said this is a very worrisome sign. This is troublesome for Democrats because despite all of Donald Trump's unpopularity in the polls, they do not seem to be building an advantage that guarantees them the House or anything close to a guarantee. It's very close, at least if you're listening. All right, we got it. Now I would add to this, the Republicans have not yet begun to fight. We're still months out and we're in the midst of this war. Trump has not begun to play the actual cards which will boost him even one or two points.
D
And also it's worth noting that the energy, like we've been saying today, is with the DSA and the far left candidates. Those people are historically unreliable when it comes to getting out and actually voting. Right. Young people, just in general. So the more, the more people that are on the ballot that are DSA people, the more Likely it is that the older, the boomers who are very reliable, they get out and vote every, every election. It's more likely that they're going to say, I'm not voting for that person. And they either won't vote or maybe they'll vote for the Republican.
A
I think, look, I, I go out and touch grass all the time. Literally just went to Vegas, played wsop, took three days off from the show while I was doing a sporting event, as some would describe it. And all the regular people there, they're moderate and they were, they all basically agreed, ah, you know, Trump. But the Democrats are crazy. Yeah, I think that plays, I think that plays in November.
B
Well. And what are the Democrats actually running on other than communism, taking away your property, rent control, all of this just talking points of the left that are dismal failures in practice.
A
Did y' all see that Caleb Hammer viral video where he yells at that blue haired chick?
B
Yeah.
A
And he's like, what percent of people actually rely on the federal minimum wage? And she's like, I don't know, 30%? Less than 1. And so I fact checked, state minimum wage is less than 2%. Between 1 and 2% live on state level minimum wage. So these people are living in fantasy land where they believe fake nonsense and they're voting on it.
D
Yeah. I mean, like to your point, that video or that clip with Caleb Hammer, he was so exasperated because this person lived in a world that was totally detached from reality. And that's actually a problem if you get enough people that agree with them and are voting based on a lie. You look at what happened to the whole country during the BLM riots. You were, if you asked that same type of person, they would say that they believe that thousands of black men were being killed, unarmed black men.
C
Still.
A
There is a video where a guy goes to Venice beach and he asks, how many unarmed black men do you believe were killed last year? And they're like 10,000. It was nine.
B
Yeah.
A
Nine out of 300 plus million police encounters.
D
And the country had riots all summer long. Cities burned because people believed things that were not true. Just because something is not true does not mean that it cannot motivate people to action.
B
And this is all the Democrats have going back to that point. What are they running on? It was, you know, it was antifa burning down our country for four years under President Trump. Then it turned to blm. Now it's ice, it's attacking ICE because we want to protect all these people that we allowed in here under Biden. But it's all hysteria driven based on not non. Facts. Yeah, when you actually look at the numbers, they don't even know who we're going after.
A
This is what I tweeted with the Caleb Hammer thing. I said the left just means wrong and the right just means correct.
D
I mean, kind of.
B
I mean, look, that's where we're at right now.
D
I mean, as long as you can motivate people with, with things that are not true, you cannot guarantee that you're, you're just, you, you're not. That you're gonna be able to say, oh, well, you know, it's not true. So like the, the old, the old facts don't care about your feelings. That doesn't mean that people are always gonna vote on things based on what's true or whatever.
B
On the left, they do the opposite.
A
Yeah.
B
And that's where I think, you know, we've failed because we haven't understood that enough to be able to counter their arguments with emotions. You know, you look at, we try to counter their arguments with facts. They don't care. These guys are, you know, you're out there, blue haired lunatic.
A
It's. Look, a lot of it is driven by. There's a reason why I think young people tend to lean left or the left tend to be young because they don't have a firm grasp of long standing politics and they're doing things to try and fit in. Younger people are going to be more motivated by social acceptance, followers, likes, et cetera, as opposed to solutions to running a country and sustaining an economy.
C
Yeah, well, and like to your point, I mean, this has been. The big problem is the Republican base has understood this for a very, very long time. It was just again, these like GOP leaders were still committed to like this faux idea of like 20th century statesmanship that just doesn't exist anymore because the left has been playing dirty for, for so long. I mean, I'm always reminded of this moment in the 2008 race when John McCain's doing a stump speech or whatever and this lady comes up and asks a question and she's like, you know, I just don't know about Obama because I think he's a Muslim. And then John McCain's like, no, ma'.
A
Am.
C
No ma'.
B
Am.
C
And like Trump is the first guy to come up and like, not like, turn his base into like cucks.
A
Yeah, he's a day is a muscle.
D
We're gonna get him out of here.
A
Well, if a lady said he'd be like, yeah, that's A very good point.
D
Yeah.
C
People are saying, I don't know, but some are saying, some really terrific people are saying they saw him skip the bait.
B
That's what people were waiting for. Somebody that actually just said it. And even if it was true or not, it's like, hey, at least you're saying what we're thinking.
C
Yeah.
B
You're not couching your, your comment.
C
John McCain was like, oh no, he's actually a really good guy. And then Trump was like, I mean, John McCain got caught.
A
I mean, that was a misstep.
B
He was good on the first part.
C
Yeah.
A
But I think this is the direction that we're going. I think the powers that be, I think Trump included, want to return to a time where politics was like that. They want politics to not be pop culture. They want the look. I mean, the World cup was amazing. The halftime show had Justin Bieber praising Jesus Christ.
B
Makes Spain great again, right?
A
Oh, right, exactly. So I think the strategy has been, and I wonder if this is why we're seeing the conspiracy slop go wild. Isolate the weird conspiracy factions, which include the leftoids and the retard. Right. And then the main political space, the dominant economic political space, meaning where, where businesses run and where people succeed is going to be more disagreeable but polite, as it were.
C
Yeah, well, I mean, you have these people you're talking about on the right and left just like voluntarily, like exiling themselves from like the political space.
A
Exactly.
C
I'm going to go vote for this candidate that gets like 3% of the polls. It's like, okay, thank you. Well, the rest of us are going to like go conduct policy and like affect the country because these people are like convinced everything's trying to kill them at all times.
A
So I, I, I wonder why so many people go on this retard, right, conspiracy slot tinge and look behind the scenes. A lot of them are saying it explicitly that they're, they're doing so great. It's like, oh, the numbers are so good. And then you can see the reaction they have to like, you know, Ben Shapiro. And by all means, look, with all due respect to Ben Shapiro, I don't watch his show. I like Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh I think is fantastic. And Ben's okay, but what do they do? They say, haha, Ben, your views are down. As if the only thing that matters to them is that they're getting traffic. Well, that's gonna drive you off a cliff. I warned CNN about this in 2016. They decided to go orange man, bad network, drove their ratings Off a cliff. Regular people are like, just tell me what's happening. Why is my milk expensive? They don't need to hear about these whackaloon conspiracies.
B
But just back to what you were saying. Do you think that's actually a possibility still in the political climate that we're in to get that rational center?
A
Yes. And when you take a look at The Ellison's buying TikTok, I think the writing's on the wall. TikTok is going to start pushing, like not so political content. And I think we're seeing a lot of it. I think one of the reasons we don't have a riot season, I think one of the reasons the temperature seems to have come down a little bit in the past couple of months is because the social media that people are being delivered on Instagram and TikTok is no longer hyper partisan, progressive stuff that China wanted to push.
C
Yeah, yeah, I think there's a variety of that. I think people just got burnt out. I mean, there's a lot of explanations, which is funny because in a lot of ways this still is like a really existential battle going on. But I think the right, you know, this is something people have said for a long time. I think it is broadly true. I mean, you do have the people that like hate Trump, but I think they're a very small, loud, but small minority of the Republican Party. I think by and large most Republicans voted Trump in and they kind of just trust him or they don't feel like they need to watch his like day to day actions. And the first term, it wasn't that way at all. And the first term, people that were Trump supporters, people that weren't Trump supporters, were all still skeptical of the Trump administration. So they kept a much closer eye on what was going on. And liberals are the same. I think liberals are just like, well, I know everything Trump's gonna do is bad, so why should I bother, you know, watching, you know, Stephen Colbert or whatever? Like they just, they are. Everyone already knows what their take's gonna be, so why bother keeping up?
A
I think that a lot of what we're seeing in podcasting is it's gonna, you're gonna, as I just said, you're gonna drive yourself off a cliff. What's happening is you may be getting a lot of views, but you're centering and isolating your audience into a key sliver that is particularly esoteric on one key issue. When that issue no longer becomes relevant, you have an audience that no longer cares because you're not talking to them about issues that broadly matter.
C
Yeah.
A
I think when you take a look at Bill Maher saying he's considering Vance, when you, when you look at even Tucker Carlson saying something similar, the writing's on the wall for what 2020 is going to be. It's going to be the more uppity 2008 era of politics. Like, well, J.D. vance is professional. I think I'll choose him. And the Democrats are just not for me.
B
Well, Mark, I hope you're right. I'm not there with you, though. I think we're so siloed now. And my bigger concern is with the left. I think we have a percentage of it on the right, but the left is jihadists, Communists. That base is gonna burn down their party before they.
A
It's possible. The challenge. You know, the thing about Bill Maher, what he's saying is that he wants a moderate Democrat. In Illinois, the moderates won. In New York, the progressives won. In Colorado, the progressives won. It's not a done deal yet. And I think the reason why the Ellisons purchased TikTok and why they're buying CBS is they're going to try and isolate the fringe element of politics that was divisive and pull everyone back to the center through media. I think TikTok will largely do that. I think when you go on Instagram and TikTok and you control via algorithm what people see. The reason why people think 10,000 unarmed black men were murdered is because they're. They were being spam blasted every single day with these videos. Recycled, regurgitated. But if you start spam blasting people videos of the World cup in football, they ain't thinking about police shootings.
C
Yeah. And I guess, like, in certain instances where people really are just like one issue voters and like, as soon as that issue is solved, they just completely, like, exit politics or just get really mad all the time. Like, well, Bill Maher, I guess, is because we got reclaimed.
B
Reschedule.
C
But even, like, you know, you have.
A
He's like, I'm for Trump now.
C
Yeah. He's like, oh, I can vote Republican now, finally. And then you have like, like the pro life crowd. And I'm like, I'm very ardently pro life. You know, I support like a total abortion. Is that politically feasible? No, definitely not. But I do support that. Just, you know, that's, that's my position. But the pro life lobby, like, once Roe v. Wade got overturned, like, they have nothing left now. Like, they, their fundraising dried up. Like, they're getting Hits on Fox News. And all that dried up. So now they just have no idea what to do. And you see a lot of them are, like, pissed off at Trump because he took away their, like, fundraising golden goose. Like, I'm not. I don't want to, like, pick on anyone. But, yeah, you have these, like, prominent pro lifers, and they're, like, always nitpicking stuff with Trump, and it's like. Yeah, because he's the one guy that, like, actually did something, and he did it, like, offhand. Like, George Bush and all these other guys was, like, a centerpiece of their campaign. Trump was like, well, that's still a thing. I don't know. Just overturn it real quick and then move on.
B
That goes back to, you know, you look at the. Everything that the left does. We want to fix crime. Well, we do nothing to actually fix crime. We want to fix homelessness. We do nothing to actually fix homelessness.
A
They make it all worse.
B
Yeah. So the whole point is, because if you actually fix it, you lose the funding.
D
Yeah.
B
And so you actually have to. You have to continually perpetuate it rather than actually fix it. You actually fix it now. Now we can move on to something else. But the left is great because they've got the intersectionality. So then when they lose this idea, now it's, oh, now we're all going for trans rights.
A
I wanna. I wanna pull up this here from Variety. Shane Gillis breaks Guinness World record for the most tickets sold for a solo comedy show. He sold around. He sold 76,212 tickets for his July 17 show at Lincoln Financial Field. This is absolutely insane. And I will just state, weird things happen when USAID goes tits up. Huh? Well, that rap music evaporates from the charts. Shane Gillis, who was fired from SNL for being offensive, now has the record for most tickets sold by a solo comedian. Can I just point out how insane it is? He filled a stadium to tell jokes. That's amazing. I genuinely believe that USAID was a psyop that was manipulating culture around the world and in the United States.
D
Yeah.
B
And the riot season ended. I mean, all of those things happened simultaneously. You know, Congrats to Shane. He's hilarious, epic.
A
And they. They fired him. It's crazy because he made. What did he do, like a Chinese accent or something?
C
Yeah, it was like, very, like, me
A
love you long time or something like that.
C
Exactly.
A
I'm allowed to do that, by the way.
B
Are you.
A
I'm Asian.
B
You got the card?
A
I got the card. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
That's right. It is shocking, like, with Shane Gillis, because, I mean, this is a guy that would have been like, his life ruined, like, 10 years ago. Like, he would have been Persona non grata. And now he, like, chums it up with, like, Sam Hyde and is still, like, selling it. And like, they brought the house for this. It wasn't just Shane Gillis, like, they brought the house, like, all these different stars came out and it turned into this big festival. And I was like, associating with people like that. Like, five years ago, you'd be done. It'd be over for you.
A
Yep.
C
It just shows you that, like, I don't know if the culture, Culture's moved because I still think people are angry about that. I just think, like, it's lost its teeth. Like, you can't really get in trouble because there's no mechanisms left. Like, they, they, they, they, they cancel. Too many people. I think there's still plenty of people that are annoyed about this and hate Shane Gillis and that sort of thing, but they've just lost their fastball. I think that's more what's going on here. Like, I don't think it's like, oh, woke is dead. Woke is definitely not dead. But what I think is true is that I, I said it already is. You know, woke maybe lost their fastball insofar as just like de. Personifying someone overnight.
D
I think they just lost the influen administration or basically the, the influence because they. There are still people that, given the opportunity, they will do everything they can to. To, you know, ostracize people that say the wrong thing or, or what have you. They just don't have the universal control that they used to because people kind of realized, you know, actually cancellation doesn't really make people go away. Right. Like you, you get you. You may live. Pardon me?
A
We have to live.
D
Yeah.
B
And it started backfiring on them to the point, I think, where it was like, okay, well, I think it was twofold. One, we got to the point on the right that we were getting canceled. We said, well, screw it. I don't care. Say what you want about me, I'm gonna keep going. And yet, enough. You had a critical mass of people that said that, that we kind of got over the hurdle. But then I think on the left too, it's like, you know, at some point they're gonna have to eat what they. They sow.
C
And I think the explanation is actually what they sell.
A
Yeah, that's true. You don't, you don't you don't just reap it, you got to eat it. You got to eat it too.
B
Fine, baby.
C
I think the explanation for like why this is happening is actually really simple. Like, literally, as President Trump just like single handedly dragging, you know, the acceptable discourse with him because like, they threw everything at him, they shot at him, threw him and tried to throw him in jail, et cetera, et cetera, you know, canceled him a million times and he like became president again. And I think that like, there is something kind of intrinsic about seeing a figure like that basically leading your country and being the guy for, you know, he's the center of the world. He's been the center of the world for 10 years now. That has like an effect on the culture, whether it's like intangible or tangible. So like, I think a lot of it actually is, you know, people come up like these sociological explanations for all this kind of stuff. I think a lot of it is just if Trump can be tolerated, not just tolerated, but like literally be the center of all the energy in the entire world and President of the United States, than like Shane Gillis, you know what he.
A
It is, it is a great point. I think it is the biggest white pill. It's a, it's a white suppository. Shane Gillis selling 76,000 tickets. He's a comedian, he is edgy, he is offensive. Don't get me wrong. He's, he's a little lib a little bit. But selling out a stadium after they tried to take him down, they tried to cancel him. I'd prefer if the libs were all just like Shane Gillis. Yeah, like we're in the middle of the road, you know, libs and cons hanging out, disagreeing. But you could piece it together.
B
Yeah, yeah, that's how it should be. I mean, we used to be able to do that. I started my career going out and trying to find common ground with people and I got beat over the head with it sticks for wanting to find that because they realized you can't. If we actually allow that, we actually come up with solutions.
A
I gotta be honest, I think these people were largely just psyops. Like USAID goes tits up and they evaporate. Like so much has evaporated overnight. I think with USAID being gone.
D
I think part of the reason is because there aren't actually a lot of them.
B
Right.
D
It was the people that would, would kind of be the ground troops or whatever. It was manufactured by usaid. The people that were the organizers were the Ones being funded by usaid, and they were directing, you know, people that didn't really have a whole lot to lose to go and do things that. In the. In the riots.
A
I had a conversation with a Normie. I would describe this person a Normie, and it was. I was talking about the SAVE act. And I tweeted this. I tweeted that Donald Trump is pretending that he wants the SAVE act passed. And my argument is that he went after Thomas Massie with reckless abandon, like he went after Thomas Massie and he got him out. He has not even said a bad word of Thune. He has not even posted a tweet saying thune. You need to push this through. I don't care when he's been. And people are like, trust me, Tim, in 2028, we'll see some. He's not doing anything right now, visibly, to oppose those who are obstructing him. And so I'm like, I don't think that Trump's actually trying as hard as he possibly could. I don't believe he actually wants it passed. So this person asks me, well, I don't understand why people don't want the SAVE Act. Like, they mentioned some libs they knew who are freaking out and super angry about it, but they don't understand why. And this is Normie saying, I don't understand why liberals are upset about getting voter id. And I said, they're not. They just hate the right. So anything the right says is wrong and bad and evil, even if what the right is saying is correct and logical and good for the country. So the liberals are just like, is that the right wants it? Okay, we hate it. It's evil, it's bad. Let illegal immigrants vote. We don't need IDs anymore. And there's no logic behind it. That's why I say it's a cult. Their motivation is simply an emotional hatred of you. The other.
B
And to your point, though, speaking of superheroes, you know, a good superhero needs a villain. And so you've got to have something to. In some ways, you have to have those issues that drive people out. And it'll be interesting to see, you said we haven't even started fighting yet what those issues are that actually get people out.
C
Well, and as far as, like, why the culture seems to be, like, becoming more moderate or at least, like, the acceptable views has widened exponentially. I think, like, the main reason for that is because it's not cool to care about anything anymore. And, like, nihilism is very much in vogue. Right? Now everyone, for a variety of reasons, is very nihilistic at the moment. And so people, whether you are extremely left wing or extremely, extremely right wing or take, you know, your politics very seriously, like the average person just kind of tunes you out at this point. Because again, like if you really care about something, even if you're like left wing, that is viewed as just kind of like broadly cringe and like the mainstream culture. And this is like, this isn't like the 90s where all everyone is moderate, broadly speaking. Everyone probably does have some pretty strong political opinions or maybe even extreme positions, but they won't express it openly because it's just like very uncool to care very deeply about politics. Now this is why some of these figures, whether it's your Ben Shapiro's or your left wing commentators, if you go on Instagram or Twitter, they're ridiculed routinely by the mainstream culture. Even if these people agree to them or disagree with them, it's because nihilism's in. Again, it's not cool to really care about anything. This is why comedy is becoming. Having such a moment right now is because it hits, it scratches, two itches is one, it's inherently nihilistic. Like the point of comedy is to just mock what you're observing. And Shane Gillis, not quite an observational comic, but like definitely taps into that. That's why comedy is having such a moment is it's, it's, even if you're taking political jabs, it is perceived as like kind of rising above it all and making a mockery of the whole thing. And then B, because I think another explanation is because comedy, if you're a stand up comedian, it's impossible to have international appeal because your comedy will only make sense in the context of the culture that you're sort of operating in. It's like Americans find Shane Gillis very funny. His humor won't really translate to France. I mean, maybe some people in Britain will think it's funny, but he won't have the same appeal even in Britain that he would in America. So comedy, it's because it's so focused on the country you live in. I think that's also another reason why it's kind of having this moment. Because all the movies, all the tv, all the music right now is packaged for mass appeal across the entire world. Comedy is like one of the few things that still seems like it's very hyper tailored for your day to day experience as an American. And I think that's another reason why again, it's just kind of. They're able to sell at stadiums. I mean, Kevin Hart was selling out stadiums not too long ago.
B
And it's funny again. I mean, you know, when it went to cancel, culture was working, and everyone had to moderate what they were saying. It was like, okay, well, screw comedy. Now it's actually funny. And you can actually say, you know, we're back to funny being funny.
C
Yeah. I mean, because you're not really seeing that many hack comedians anymore because it's like, again, it's uncool to care about politics. Like, you know, most of these people that are like, hack comics now were like the, you know, the brave truth tellers in the 70s or 80s. But I'm like, someone like Carlin now would just be like, what do you mean not getting the vaccine, you idiot? Like, that's what he'd be doing now. So most of that generation of comics have all, like, washed out. And now you have. And you have this new batch of just kind of more like. I guess I can't think of another word. The nihilist would be the best.
A
I don't know if George Carlin would have gone full cult.
C
Oh, dude. Every. Every one of his contemporaries did.
A
That's true. Howard Stern.
C
Howard's Howard Stern did all those shocked. And every time George Carlin, like, barked up a tree, it was always up the evangelical conservative tree.
B
Yeah.
C
Very rarely did he, like, ever really give it to the atheists or really give it to the left wing. Like, if he was. If he was alive now, it would be like, you know, this. This Trump guy, you know, this idiot fascist Nazi. And it's like, okay. Because that's what all of his contemporaries are doing. So I can't stand when, like, you see these, like, boomer right wingers and they're like, oh, you know, George Carlin. If only he could have seen this. I'm like, dude, he would hate your guts. Like, this guy. Absolutely.
A
I mean, you know, considering Howard Stern. Benthony.
C
Yeah. Howard Stern. I mean, you'd name it. Any comic from that era, by and large, is either left wing or just vanished.
B
Wasn't it amazing?
A
Every time you say by and large, I just think of Wally.
C
Yeah. I think of Chris Farley.
B
It's amazing that the left. The counterculture, the ones that used to be, you know, the. The grunge now are the. The ones that are stepping in line. I mean, that.
C
I don't think either died.
A
Dude, all these punk bands were just
D
like, the machine is good.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Green Day.
A
Let's Go machine on behalf of the machine.
C
But nothing line. Nothing's even like. Nothing's even like really even grunge anymore because, like, the culture is so shallow now that whatever your, like, opponent is, you're basically shadow boxing. Because there's not really like this unified culture anymore. There's not like a unified elite. It's not like the 70s or 80s or at least you could like, plausibly like make this pitch that like, you're fighting the system or whatever. Like the system by and large doesn't even really exist anymore. It's very fractured. We're seeing it now. So like any like, like grunge or any way of being like alternative or anything, it's again, it's just like mainly shadow boxing.
D
Well, yeah, there's. I mean, there's no more. There's no more underground, right? There used to be. It used to be where you'd have to go out to a place to get music and you'd have. If you wanted to look for stuff that wasn't, you know, being played on the radio, you actually physically had to leave your house and go to try to find it. I've related this story a bunch of times. When I was a kid, I had to drive like, or I had to have my mom drive because I was like 14. Had had to have my mom drive me like 40 minutes to this place called the Music Outlet because it was the only place that was even close by at all that had like death metal bands. And so, like, if I went there, I would pick up a CD and maybe I would like the cd. I'd have to judge by the COVID or, or judge by, you know, if. If I knew the band and then bring it home and hopefully I liked it. But nowadays all you have to do is just do a Google search and you can listen to, you know, search on Spotify, you can listen to anything at all. So there's no more going out and finding stuff because it's all literally brought to you. No, not at all.
A
It's not even that. It's that I can go on my AI program and say, I really like all that Remains, but I like Paramore. So I'm going to mix the two. Yeah, and have Haley Williams sing All
D
that Remains music, literally, because he's done it, I've done it.
B
You know, the. The difference now is back then, unusual, abnormal was abnormal. Now abnormal is normal. So, you know, the, the grunge is normal. Now it's the calm, sentient folks like, like Tim that are the grunge of today, I'd say, because it. That's what's abnormal.
C
Well, because standards drop, so everything's permissible now. Like, what is grunge when everyone is, like, behaving poorly? I mean, everyone is behaving poorly. Like, dude, people literally wear pajamas to the airport.
B
Much worse.
C
I just covered in like, they're covered in, like, nasty tattoos. They want your piercings, blue hair. They're like in pajamas.
A
Well, they are. They are trying to like, yeah, no
C
one bats an eye to this kind of stuff anymore because there's, there's no such thing as gross people.
A
Too much people ask me, what does Trump mean, make America great again? I'll tell you. It means when you showed up in an airport, you wore a suit and when you got on the plane, they served everyone a fine dinner and you were all dressed neatly and appropriately. That was great. No one's talking about being racist. You know, Tucker Carlson said, the interests of black Americans are the same as every American. Why would you ask that question? That's stupid. I loved when he said, I've got more problems with white women than I do with black people. Like what you say? Yeah, he got asked, he got asked
C
about living in Maine.
A
Well, he got, he got asked by some Australian journalist about great replacement, you know, theory and like, how whites are being replaced. He's like, I never said white people that Americans are being replaced. And he's like, I have a bigger, I have bigger issues with white liberal women than black people.
C
Me, when I'm driving, Me when I'm driving around D.C. like, man, I sure hope a Karen doesn't carjack me.
B
Yeah, it depends on where you're at.
C
Yeah, that's the safe, edgy stuff. I've made this point on the show a million times. Nothing sets me off more than like the safe, safe, edgy stuff where it's like people will chest beat all day about, like, Canada or about Karen, but like, when you bring up, like day to day groups that are, like, harming you, it's like all of a sudden that's like unacceptable. When you are like, I don't know, man. I think India is causing more problems than Canada. Well, I guess it is synonymous now. But it's like, I don't know, dude. I think India is causing us more problems than like France, but like, people joke about France all day or Italy, but I'm like, dude, I think India, like Africa, I think they're causing us more problems. Same thing. It's like, well, these Karens, am I right? I'm Like, I don't know. Do you think black people are, like, making my life harder on a daily basis, like, far more often than Karen's? Like, what's the Karen sin? Like, expecting, like, exceptional service from retail?
D
Well, I mean, that's it.
B
I want to think they're down ICE too. I mean, but.
A
But, like, the way they.
D
It's. The way they vote is. Is the problem, right?
C
White women vote for Republicans. White women vote for the Republican Party.
B
Pull up the stats, the stats on that one.
C
As white women vote for the Republicans party. This is what I mean. Everyone, like, dunks on them. I'm like, what about, like, black women who vote like 6 to 94?
B
Well, that. The whole DNC. I mean, I didn't, I didn't. I actually do the statistics on it, but it was a large, I would say majority, anecdotally black women that run the dnc.
C
Now, it's crazy. And it's like, it is true that there's like a white socialist activist base, but who is supplying them the votes? Because white socialists have always existed in this country, but they never had.
A
Tate's correct. White women.
C
Yes.
A
53%, Trump. 46. Harris.
C
Yeah. So they, like, catch all this flack and I'm like, hey, they're patriots. Like, what are we talking about?
D
I mean, 53, 46. It's not.
C
I mean, white men are much better. It's like 58.
D
Yeah. So, but like, when it comes to
C
they catch all this flak, I'm like, why are we beating up on white women?
B
Well, I think. I think we're talking about the left wing white women.
C
Well, that's true, but left wing of any group is a problem.
B
Yeah.
C
So, I mean, and again, it's like, well, the dsa, everyone's like, white socials, white socialism. Like, all these DSA candidates are like immigrants or the children of immigrants. So it's like, again, because as white people, it's easy to rough up on our, like, fellow people. You know, Trump made this point when Trump, those years ago, he was like, you know, customs treats my wife really poorly. But then they don't like, really rough up like a lot of these other people coming in. Because it's like, for white people, we can rough up on other white people really easily because it's like, we don't feel bad. There's no, like, social. There's no social pressure to, like, be easy on them or whatever. But then when it's like these other groups, like, dude, no. All of these DSA candidates, by and Large are like, immigrants, children of immigrants. But, like, no, it's. The white social. Shouldn't have got a problem too. I agree.
B
Shouldn't have got citizenship. Birthright citizenship.
D
Not only that, the founders should. The founders should have made the same stipulations for Congress and the Senate that they made for the President. Have to be born in America to be in the federal government.
A
What a ridiculous notion that they're only the president. What? Why not the rest of them?
B
Yeah, no, it's crazy because they didn't
C
anticipate, like, us letting in people in the country that weren't born, like, Britain
B
or, or that hated this country. I mean, the point that we're bringing people in that objectively hate this country and we're saying, here's your citizenship, come back in 35 years or last 21 years.
C
Yeah. The founders were like, okay, let's see who, like, run for Congress or like, Protestant, like, okay, like white Landown. Etc. It never occurred to them, like, should we make them born in America? Because, like, they had so many, like, protections against someone from Somalia running that it would never occur to them, like,
A
was it, was it you who was saying that if the Founding Fathers were alive today, they'd be like, Catholics can vote.
C
Yeah. Like, literally, that'd be like, their first concern. What do you mean? Baptists can run?
D
And, and, but, but, but only a couple generations before that, people were like, like, people are voting.
A
Yeah, Right.
D
Which is. Which is more my speed nowadays, you
C
know, so it's it's just like. I don't know. It's just. I think everyone is, like, missing the very obvious points of what's going on. And like, they're, they're reading into the founders. When the founders, like, okay, sure, but they were, like, pretty explicit about their, like, maybe women shouldn't vote. It's like, what happens when you expand the vote. It's like, things get pretty bad, actually. Like the founder. I hate this thing where we treat the founders like they're these, like, bigoted idiots. It's like, actually, no, they're, like, smarter than we are.
D
It made sense considering, you know, basically it was one household, one vote. Right.
A
But it's not just that we didn't have IDs, so how did, how did we know that you were part of the community and should vote? You owned property here. It wasn't to disrespect a young man or woman or a black guy or Native American. It was like, you don't live here.
B
Yeah, how do we know? Well, now we don't care.
A
He's got a deed of the house. He lives there in that property. He wants to follow.
B
Now you come in illegally and we say go ahead and vote. And beyond that, I mean I go back to where you look at how we're voting and you look at the demographics of who's voting for what. If you don't have skin in the game, you shouldn't be able to vote. You shouldn't be able to vote for more stuff that I have to pay for.
D
I'm thinking you don't have skin in the game. There should probably be around like two and a half million people in the country that can vote.
A
And I figured it out.
D
500,000 from each state.
A
Your vote is weighted against the proportion of taxes you pay.
B
I love it.
A
So love it.
C
The problem is the Republicans will get wiped out.
A
We multiply your vote by your total tax spend for the year.
B
Yeah.
C
The Republicans will get cleaned out.
B
Isn't that sad?
C
Because of the elderly.
A
Because of the elderly.
C
Yeah. They all take Social Security and don't pay into the systems. You lose the elderly vote. The Democrats are.
B
But I mean we got, we have,
A
we do have the only trillionaire tax on Social Security. Well, two and a half. We do have one trillionaire.
B
I don't know how that counter weighs in.
C
Yeah, that's true. That might.
A
We don't charge you to vote. We just take the taxes paid and multiply your vote by that. And then we added all the votes.
C
If you weigh it up then like New York City taxpayers who live by themselves are going to be like having the most outsized voting power and like the elderly will.
B
No, no, no.
A
Let's say state or city? Federal.
B
Yeah. California.
A
Everyone's paying same federal tax.
C
They make more money in New York City. So they would.
A
That's true. That's true.
B
When you're. Your voting base is living off the system. 50% of more than 50% in California pay less than they. They receive. You're that you're gonna wipe out half the two and a half.
D
Two and a half million people in America can vote. You all have to be born here to be able to vote. And two and a half million people is the only number. So as people pass away then you can add new people to the voter rolls. We get the same 500,000 people.
C
Yeah.
B
How about this?
A
How about this?
D
People from every state or so.
A
How about this? When you vote, we randomly select 1000 voters for execution. You really gotta want to skin in the game.
C
That's skin big time.
A
That Skin in the game, it's like, thank you for your service and sacred honor. I got the idea from the show. You ever see Sliders?
B
No.
A
The Show in the 90s, dude creates a portal gun, and then they accidentally get lost in the multi. Multiverse or whatever. They go to this one dimension where the ATM just lets you take out as much money as you want, and they're, like, really excited. And then people are going, thank you for what you're doing. Like, this is great. Look at all the money we're getting for free. And they don't realize that the way the system works is every time you take out money, you get a raffle ticket for execution. So you're allowed to take as much money as you want, but you're buying more raffles to be executed. And then when you win the lottery, they kill you.
D
What if you take out, like, is there a limit to you how much you can take out of your.
A
In the show?
D
No, no.
A
You just go, I'm gonna take over. The main characters didn't realize. And they took out insane amounts of money and then won and then didn't realize what winning the lottery meant. And then when they realized they were going to be killed, they're like, oops, I don't know.
B
I'd buy all the guns and shoot back. Well, not advocating for that. I'm just saying.
D
Well, I am advocating for.
A
Not in a society that two and
D
a half million give people any free
A
money, but every time you take money, you are buying a raffle ticket for execution.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
You live by the sword.
D
Yeah.
B
No, it's scary. I mean, but going back to our founders, I don't think they intended for jihadists to be being elected and taking over communities in our country and.
C
Yeah.
B
And saying, oh, this. All religions are the same. It's like, now, if you want to kill this country and tear it down. Yeah, they're not all the same.
C
Thomas Jefferson, like, bought a copy of the Quran. He's like, oh, this is kind of interesting. And then he read further. He's like, let's bomb Libya. You got it. We got to take Tripoli. This is getting ugly.
D
Yeah, I mean, look, the founders were pretty clear about the fact that this was, like, a Christian country. Like, that was the way that was founded. Like, they didn't. They. They didn't have the specific desire to keep people out, but at the same time, like, there was no thought that people were going to come in. Right. Like, they didn't think that it was going to be a ton of people from that. With. With significantly different backgrounds. They. Their conception was that it was going to be Europeans.
B
Right?
D
You know, yeah.
C
Benjamin Franklin was like, I don't know if Welsh people are white. Like, like this. This guy is supposedly like this multicultural, like plural, pluralistic, like advocate. It's like, like no, dude, that like this. They wouldn't have been able to wrap their head around like people. If you told them like, hey, there's a Somalian car. They'd be like, how do they even get here? Like, how does. Yeah, Somali even arrive to the new world? The other coast.
D
The other coast.
B
Ironically. Ironically, the same people that are moaning about slavery today are ignoring. You know, I had some of those ideas we had earlier places that actually still have it today. I mean, all of the hypocrisy that North Africa, Mauritania, all these places.
D
I was watching, my girlfriend and I were watching a. A Netflix documentary on the founding of the US like it's a multi part. And like the way that they characterize slavery, it sounds like it was only in the US it sounds like Americans were going to Africa to get slaves as opposed to there being an existing slave trade. It sounds like the arguments about whether or not slavery was going to be an institution in the US Was something that was actually global. The way that they characterize it is very different from the reality, which is just because the U.S. you know, when the U.S. ended slavery in the. In. In. In the continental U.S. it didn't mean that slavery ended around the world. There's still currently slavery going on. I don't know, a bunch of different.
A
Not only that, but liberals don't know what slavery is. And if you ask one of these progressive liberals to describe slavery, they're going to describe a black man in a field being beaten by. By a white man. And they're going to ignore literally every other form of slavery, which include working in stores. Right. Slavery was bad in general. I'm just saying, like, they only have the most extreme idea in their mind. They don't understand that. In fact, there are many slaves who made money. They were slaves, but they made money. They worked in excess and then bought their freedom.
B
Yeah.
A
So not a good system. Not a fan. Obviously not defending it. Calm down, libs. You're out of context clips. My point is understanding the history of how these things could have been possible. It's extremely important. Understanding why we changed them and what the function of government was.
B
It goes back to what we started talking about at the beginning of the show, is if we actually had dialogue, constructive dialogue, with facts, then we would hash out these issues and actually come to common ground. But we can't do that. The left can't do that because they know they lose in the arena of ideas.
A
Well, I just think having. Look, liberals don't like to come on shows like that Caleb Hammer clip where he's yelling at that woman and he really snaps at her. But because she's a ignorant activist, has no idea what she's talking about, and it's just virtue signaling. They don't know what they're talking about, and they're just trying to say what they think they're supposed to be saying.
D
Right.
A
Many of these young people in their early twenties have not experienced politics, myself included, when I was. When I was in my early 20s. That being said, I was in politics when I was a teenager because I was going to these protests and I was reading the news all day, you know, every day. But a lot of young people that we've talked about, talked with on the show are like, oh, I was 13 years old when Trump came down the escalator. And it's like, right. So were you watching this? No. When did you start? Three years ago. And it's like, right. So I'm not trying to be a dick when I say you don't remember and you haven't experienced what was going on in politics. So you end up with all these young people. And when I talk to them, they're trying to get clips for TikTok, right? They're not trying to have a conversation or understand. They just want to get that shock comment for a clip to go viral.
B
Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, we live in that age of add, clickbait, doom, scroll.
A
Indeed. Everything's fake. Everybody's fake. It's all about, you know, I'll just say this, like, the drama. There's more drama. There's ever been. And I am just not doing any of it. It's over. I'm done.
B
In my book. To pitch it again, step into fear. I have a whole chapter on that division. And distraction. If you can avoid those two things in your life, you will be better off. And unfortunately, too many people get sucked into it.
A
You know, with. There's a lot of prominent. I'm not gonna call on anybody anymore. I'm not gonna name drop these stupid. The stupid drama stuff. But there's a lot of prominent personalities. Left, right, and on the right, they're all fighting each other. On the left, they're fighting each other. Left and right are fighting each other. And I'm Just like, you know, none of these people are in positions of power to a degree where I care anymore. You know, I understand they're influential and they have big shows, whatever. I'm gonna pay attention to the seats of power and I'm gonna talk about what's going on in the news and I'm gonna talk about, you know, people of significance that are actually, you know, I suppose, influencing and changing things to a greater degree. A lot of the online fighting is desperation because we're in the political off season. When Donald Trump gave his speech the other day, we got something like a million viewers on the show. We had 65,000 concurrents, which is what we are getting during political season, if not more. We're doing about 80,000 concurrence. At the height of political season, we hit something like 200 or 200 something thousand when during the election night, got like 5 million views on the show for the election night coverage. It was all day, by the way. Now that we're in, we're about to enter the midterm cycle, so we're in this lull. We're doing about 30,000 concurrence. It's a little bit lower. It's averaging where we normally are. And I'm not crying about it, but there are a lot of people that are desperately trying to drum up drama because they don't know what else to do. I'm not playing these stupid games.
B
Yeah. If it doesn't add value, don't do it.
D
Yeah. I mean, look, there are people that, you know, glom onto whatever the topic at hand is. You see a lot of people that are. Are making a, you know, making a killing, you know, complaining about Israel. And it'll. It'll change depending on what really actually, you know, brings in the numbers.
A
I'll tell you something that's not promising is I was watching these clips. Apparently these AI video channels are getting demonetized.
D
There you go.
A
Yeah. I didn't think YouTube was going to do it, but I'm glad they are, and I think it's important to understand. So there's a lot of. A lot of. There's a lot of young people targeting attention because they make fully automated channels. They. There's AI programs that will create a thumbnail, a script, make images, and then auto upload for you. You do nothing. You literally just go on and click a few buttons and it'll automatically do it. And they were making six figures. Now I'm hearing that the channels have stopped posting. And the rumor is because YouTube started asking people to flag AI videos. My first thought was not that they're trying to stop AI. They're trying to improve AI videos by figuring out if humans can determine which one is or is not AI. Now it's appearing like a lot of these channels are drying up because they've been demonetized. And now it's no longer profitable to make the slop. And this is good, because if slop can be mass produced, shows like this cease to exist because we can't financially compete anymore. And then YouTube becomes just an AI content platform, which destroys the platform. So know, it's. It's. It's good news. It's. It's good news. I'm looking forward to hoping we see more of it.
D
Bright future.
A
Bright future, indeed. We got more news about a bright future. We got this from Gizmodo, guys. The Avengers Doomsday trailer has dropped. I know most of you have seen it because it's got something like 30 million views since it went up today. And I'm going to tell you exactly why it matters. Chris Evans standing there accepting Mjolnir from Thor. And what does that mean? It means the last seven years of Woke trash is being erased from the timeline. Robert Downey Jr. Introduces the trailer. You got Hemsworth, who is the. The. The strong lead. No longer a fat loser like they did in Endgame. Thank God he's a strong man saying, we have fought and we need a miracle. And then Chris Evans shows up. They brought back the big, big three. They got the band back together because they realized what people liked and what made money was heroism, not weird gender politics and whatever the Marvel was. Marvels.
B
Not a girl pretending to be a boy.
A
No, none of that.
D
No, look, I'm. I'm a mark for a lot of the older. The Marvel movies. The first was. I forget what they called the first. First bunch. I thought they were great. You know, they like. I. I enjoyed a lot of the stuff that happened in the Multiverse saga and the Infinity Saga. There you go. I thought those are great. I thought a lot of the stuff that was in the Multiverse saga that. That focused on some of the bigger characters were good. I even liked. I even liked Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness people. There's a lot of people that got down on that.
A
They actually screwed that up because it was supposed to be released earlier, which is why America Chavez was supposed to be in Spider man, apparently.
D
Okay, yeah.
A
And it got all screwed up. But, you know, whatever. But I'm glad that they decided to just stop yeah. And. And they brought back the Russo brothers and said we need to go back to what people actually enjoy. And sure enough, Spider man is coming out in 10 days, Thursday previews. We are going to be there. Very excited for this. And they're bringing back Savage, Hulk and all. Punisher is going to be in it, but they got to make him PG 13.
D
Well, I heard. I heard that part of the way that they're getting. Getting that across is Spider Man's going to shoot the web into his mouth a few times.
A
Yes.
D
Like, they cover his mouth.
A
But it's not just that. It's that Punisher kills people.
D
Yes. Yes.
A
So. But I'm. I. I think it's okay. I'm glad to see it. I'm. I think that they did that one shot with Punisher to bring him back. It was good. It was action. I think they could have done a little bit more for the story.
D
I want to say one thing. Shout out to Hate Breed for. For I will be heard being the song as he's massacring people slaughter. It was great. Shout out to the boys, Jamie. And the boys in Hate Breed is.
A
I'm talking about when they brought him Captain Marvel. What was happening to our culture was they were like, they wanted to create a hero's journey for women, but there already is a hero's journey for women. It just needs to be properly parsed out. The hero's journey is very obvious. You know, the young guy thrust into adventure, aided by magic. There's like 12 steps, but people usually refer to the three, and that's what we use for all of these movies. The hero's journey for women. It's the saying that men. Men want to be him, women want to be with him. Women enjoy watching the movies with the guys. Everybody likes seeing the, like, the guy save the woman.
B
Yep.
A
Women like it. Men like it. They make a billion dollars. When they inverted it and tried making a movie where it's a woman standing up to the man, it just started to break everything down. And people said, I don't want to watch this. This is weird.
B
Yeah. Well, it's nice to go back to just entertainment being entertaining and a time to just. Instead of get out. Yeah. Instead of. Yeah. Instead of being beaten over the head with some political agenda on it, just keep the stories to the, you know, what the stories were meant to be and make them entertaining.
D
Well, the Tim's point, like the one of the things that you never. Or I'm not sure if it was never, but you rarely saw, was Women in these roles actually failing and struggling. Like, a great example is like the Star wars, like, Episode four, five, and six, Right. Luke Skywalker was not a Jedi in the first one. And in the Empire Strike Back, he got his ass handed to him over and over and over.
A
Even used the lightsaber in the first one.
D
No, he didn't.
A
Never.
D
He never used it.
A
He just wields it. The one time when Obon handed him. Then he doesn't even use it.
D
Yeah. And it. It takes three movies, so it's like a full hero's journey. It's not just a hero's journey in the movie. Like, first act, second act, third. Third act. It was the full. Full three movies until he came back at. In the last one as an actual Jedi. And then you got to see him be cool. But he was like. He was. He was whiny in the first one, and he just got beat up in the second one.
A
And then Return of the Jedi was great. Yeah. Luke was an actual Jedi. He's flipping around.
D
It was cool.
A
He's threatening Jabba.
D
Yeah.
A
Fun. And that was. That was. It was crazy how long it took. It was years between. And now it's like the sequence.
B
Could even play that anymore, though.
D
Well, you can't do that with a woman. That's part of the problem, right. In the. The. Yeah, The. The sequels to the Star wars movies, like with Rey Skywalker and what have you, like, she was kicking the other. The bad guys. But at the end of the first movie, she knew how to fly the Millennium Falcon, right?
A
Yep.
D
Automatically knew how to do this. It was just like, right away. She had all the powers that she needed.
A
So it's like, there's no drama. The female trope they're creating is. It's not enjoyable. And it's the. The woman was always powerful and the men held her down.
D
Yep.
A
That's what Captain Marvel was.
B
The kind of woman no man wants to marry.
D
Yeah.
A
Yeah. It's the one who just knows she's right all the time, and he's the man to shut up for once.
B
Thanks. Thank God I got a good one.
A
And. But here's the thing, babe. There's a reason why there's chick flicks. There is a phrase for chick that they make insane amounts of money and women love them. Like, my wife loves watching Married to Strangers.
B
Like, love is Notebook's pretty great. I'm not gonna lie. The Notebook's pretty great.
A
You know what? I think did a really, really great job of making a movie for men and Women is the adjustment bureau. Have you ever seen that one?
B
I have, but I don't even remember the premise.
A
This is where Matt Damon is a politician. He loses. And there are these dudes in suits. They're supposed to be like angels, I guess, that keep you on your path so that you. You do what you're supposed to do. He wants to be with this woman, but they keep forcing him down a different path because they want him to be president. And in the end, they find a way to be together. And I was like, I think that combines the passions and ambitions of the man with the woman. Feeling desired. That made an interesting story. That is sci fi fantasy that I thought was interesting. He puts on a hat and he can open doors that are portals. And I'm like, oh, this is cool. And then for the women, it's like this woman is his object of. Of desire that he's pursuing, and he's battling angels themselves and fate itself to be with this woman. I'm like, I thought that was a great movie.
B
I have to go back and watch it.
A
It's a fun movie. And that's how you do it. That's how you do it. I'm not saying it made a billion dollars. I think if you actually want to know how you do it, you do. You do what they're doing with Doomsday, and they're like, bring back Robert Downey Jr. This dude just prints money.
D
Yep. Like I said, this is. I'm excited for this one. I can't wait to see the new Spider man movie. I'm excited for the Avengers, Doomsday. It looks good, in my opinion so far. I've always been kind of partial to the X Men, so I'm happy that they're bringing the X Men into. Into this fold here. I think it's gonna be a good movie. Are you gonna go see it?
C
I. I don't know if Tim goes, yeah, we got.
A
We got tickets, bro. You're coming.
C
I've only seen, like, four Marvel movies in my whole life.
D
Really?
A
Well, you're not gonna. Here's the thing, though. It's like, you got to watch every movie because it's like, Spider man is basically like, Marvel 24. They may as well call each movie Marvel.
C
I saw the one where he went into the Washington Monument and, like, blew up or something.
A
That was the first one, wasn't it?
D
Was the first Spider Man.
B
Yeah. I definitely don't. I'm definitely not on the timeline. I watch them. My kids like watching them, but I'm not like Avengers.
C
Start game. And I'm like, you know.
A
You know what they've done wrong? And for the love of all, is it holy like James Gunn? I can. I can save you. I can save the DC Universe. It's crazy because people keep talking about how DC is going for the most obscure and weird superheroes instead of just using the name like the. And I think it's because he's trying to do what. What Marvel did. Iron man was not a big popular hero. They need to get back to just telling an individual story. Every movie does not need to be the Avengers.
C
Yeah, because didn't Superman and Batman fight each other in a movie?
D
Yeah, in.
A
And they got rid of that. They. They erased all that. They were like, oops, that was bad.
C
They tied well.
A
You know, it was so bad. I know people like it, but it was so bad. First of all, you had Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor.
B
Got trophies.
A
Lex Luthor. My favorite depiction of Lex Luthor is the 90s cartoon version where he's like. He's like a moral inversion to Batman. He's physically fit, he's strong, smart, articulate, and he's more emotionally selfishly driven than Bruce Wayne is. But he builds a suit of armor and he wants to fight Superman. That's the looks I like. Not this weasel Jesse Eisenberg version or Nicholas Holt, you know?
B
You know, Batman has no chance against Superman. I mean, come on.
D
He always uses brain.
B
I mean, outside of kryptonite.
A
That's not true.
B
What can he do? He's a human.
A
It is. It is well known to everybody in comic book fandom that Batman can defeat any. Any character, given enough time.
D
Yep.
B
That. What technology is this?
A
And. Yes, so. So, for instance, Batman has red solar grenades. So Superman is powered by the yellow sun. So what Bruce Wayne will do is he'll lob a red solar grenade and the red solar flash will temp. Will temporarily reduce or.
B
I take it. I take it all back.
A
There's also my depth. There's also pink kryptonite, which makes a man gay.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
I'm not. It's not a joke.
C
Really.
A
Yeah, it makes him gay.
B
Which. Which movie is that one?
A
It's from one of the comics.
B
Avoid it. Okay.
A
Yeah. And then there's like, blue kryptonite. Makes him hallucinate and see the future or something.
B
Wow.
A
The weird radiation effects on him.
B
Way more than I knew.
D
You know, and to your point, though, Tim, like when. When they. When DC decides to go with Guy Gardner as the green Lantern as opponents to Hal. Like, oh, but I love it. Well, I mean, but that's the thing. He's far more. He's far more esoteric than dude, was it Nathan Fillion?
A
Yeah, I like, I think James Gunn is doing a C minus job. I just love DC so much more than Marvel, to be completely honest. Except the MCU has just been leaps and bounds better and they have failed the DC Universe. It is what it is. It is what it is. But I love Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner. And I love Guy Gardner as. I love that they're bringing him in as Lantern. Because, look, Jon Stewart and Hal Jordan are two on the nose. Like Marine Corps hero guys. Yeah, Guy Gardner is great.
D
I'm fairly knowledgeable about comics. DC Comics. I'm more knowledgeable about Marvel Comics. But like, even I am just like, oh, yeah, I remember that Guy. But like, I don't know who Mr. Terrific was. Oh, I didn't know who he was until the.
A
Until I just love dc so much. Mr. Terrific is absolutely fantastic. I love superheroes that are people that applied themselves to give themselves capabilities. Right. Iron man, he's a dick, but he's an industrialist who built a suit of armor to be a hero himself. Batman trains martial arts. He's a great detective, and he has R and D behind it in gadgets. Mr. Terrific is a tech billionaire. His family was killed, and then he becomes like a listless loser and then is convinced to do something with his knowledge. And so he creates T spheres and other technology so that he can be a superhero. I love that. I don't need. No. Oh, I got. I was born with powers, you know. Great. You were just gifted these things, you know.
B
Well, that, that's the part of, I guess this, the superhero story that going back to when we were talking about the. The new Doom, when it's not believable. When Thor's hammer stops with two fingers, you're like, so.
A
So, yeah, in the trailer, it's called power scaling because they want to present a threat to the Avengers, who are so powerful. If you've seen the trailer, Thor swings Stormbreaker and Doom just stops it with two fingers. Like, no, we don't need to do that. That's not good. Doom could have just been fighting with him and then used like, his energy blasts to like, throw him out of the way or something, indicating he is on par with or potentially stronger than. The two finger thing basically says Thor is incapable of even hurting him at all.
B
And then when you actually do it later on, you're like, ok, one of those is not true.
A
Right.
B
It's incompatible.
A
Like, this is a problem. When they introduced Captain Marvel in Endgame and Thanos headbutts her and she just smirks like. The acting was terrible. The choreography was terrible. And so everybody in the audience when I watched Endgame groaned two points. When Thanos headbutts Captain Marvel and she just smirks like, please, no. And then when it did, all the women and they're all lining up. She's not alone. The whole audience went, oh, like, I'm not even kidding.
C
Thing.
A
I was in eastern. Eastern Maryland. I was near, like, I was near Bel Air. So, like, just suburbs of Baltimore. Ish. Everybody was groaning. Nah, we don't want that. They're getting rid of it. I wonder how masculine this movie will be. I bet it's going to be like just plum nuts.
D
Yeah, it's going to be a. It's gonna be.
B
I'm ready for it. Double plum nuts.
D
It'll be. It'll be a return. It's going to be an attempt to. A return to what made Marvel great in the first place. Like, what really set them down the path.
A
You know what they need to do. To be honest, D.C. needs to do the Injustice movie. You know what that is? Joker drugs Superman. He's hallucinating, and he kills pregnant Lois with his baby.
B
Oh, that's.
A
Then. Then Joker detonates a nuke in Metropolis, killing millions. They catch Joker while he's being interrogated. Superman busts in, chastises Bruce, saying that if you just killed him, none of this would have happened. And then he rips Joker's heart out.
B
Okay, that's better.
A
And then he becomes. He becomes the. They form the Justice Lords and then become dictators of the Earth. Okay.
B
Yeah, that start. Good ending.
A
And then there's. They've done a bunch of different versions of this in the same way they. In the. The video game. It's built on, like, the same engine as Mortal Kombat. He just goes to Arkham Asylum and begins lobotomizing all of the inmates one by one.
B
That's a great idea, bro.
A
With laser eyes. He just lines them up and they're like.
B
I mean, we would fix a lot of problems in the world if we actually started lobotomizing again.
A
Well, lobotomizing criminal.
D
Just having asylums open.
B
Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Asylum is great.
D
Again, the most compelling stories about Superman are when he goes bad.
A
Yeah.
D
You know, because what.
A
Did you know about the communist one?
D
Yeah. Where he was.
A
He Was he? Instead of being born in Kansas, he gets crash. He crash lands in the Soviet Union, gets raised as a communist.
B
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I haven't seen that one.
A
Yeah. I love all, like, basically at this point, the characters are just beaten to death. There's.
C
Yeah.
A
Millions of versions of the same characters.
D
I mean, they've been around.
A
Remember when they took his cape away and made him like, electricity?
D
Yes. Superman debuted in what, the 40s, was it?
A
I think it was before that.
D
So. Yeah.
A
Yeah. Because he's gonna be public domain in a few years.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah. The original Superman. I wonder if this means, you know, that's one of. One of Superman's powers early on was the ability to use his. Raise his hand and fire from his hand a miniature Superman.
D
Action comics number one April, could actually
A
fire from his hand a smaller Superman that would go around and do stuff.
B
Is that ultrally appropriate nowadays?
A
You know, the thing is, what would you call that?
B
Permission person.
A
Here's what people don't understand. The. The idea of like, the Incredible Hulk or Spider Man. We. We were. When we were born, Spider man existed. But it was really weird back then when they tried coming with an idea of a guy who had spider powers. The industry was like, what? He's like, that's stupid. Who wants to be a spider? Like, make him throw fireballs? And they're like. And then Spider man became the biggest superhero. Everybody loved him. Swinging around.
D
Most of the reason people loved him is because they. They felt like. Your kids felt like they could relate to Peter Parker, though. It's all like, the things that make characters interesting is always when the. The audience or the reader can relate to them. You can't really relate to the superhero part. Right. But everybody that was a teenager or a kid felt like they could relate to Peter Parker because they. Because Peter Parker was awkward and blah, blah, blah.
A
This is what accidentally helped with X Men is that initially Marvel just didn't want to have origin stories anymore. They were like, we can't write an origin story for every weird person we make. They started calling them mutants, like powers because they're a mutant. Which eventually created this inadvertent arc of mutants and non mutants. But then what ends up happening is when they explain that in the X Men universe, around puberty, you develop powers. All of a sudden, little kids were like, oh, man. Like, that'd be so cool if I got powers. And it made this, like, fantasy for. For, like, young boys to go on adventures and imagine that they were superheroes.
B
Yeah.
A
So it's.
B
It sells and that was back in the good old days where we actually went out and played and used our imagination. Yeah. You know, sword fights and cops and robbers and cowboys and Indians pointing fake
A
guns with caps in them. You put the paper in it. And real ones, we used to do
B
BB guns and actually got shot right between the eyes.
A
We didn't do none of that.
D
We don't want to.
A
No. You know, recommending it, I would go to Walt. We did some cool stuff. Go to Walgreens or cvs and they would sell plastic gun with a. With a reel of little caps. Piece of paper with, like, flint on it.
B
Oh, yeah, those are the best.
A
And you'd buy that at the store and you'd wind it up and you'd aim it and click and it would snap.
B
The paper ones were never good. It was always the plastic.
A
Plastic caps, plastics. Like, those are the. Those are the moon clips.
B
Yeah.
A
Remember those. The moon clip caps.
B
The paper were just inconsistent, you know?
D
Yeah. You can get. You can get airsoft guns now with, like, little rubber pellets that are.
A
Well, they have those. Those gel balls.
D
Yeah.
A
But then they get all over the place and everyone gets all mad.
D
Airsoft guns are all right, though.
A
They also have airballs.
D
Airballs?
A
Yeah, you just. You can it and then it shoots a tough, like a puff of air at people.
D
Oh, really?
A
But long distances.
B
Yeah.
A
And they have the hydro balls. You ever see those?
D
Oh, where they. They.
A
It shoots a ball of water perfectly.
B
You know, I haven't seen that. Evolution balls are interesting.
A
Yeah. Yeah. There's like a video where a guy shoots people with airballs and they have no idea.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good stuff. Lasers are pretty crazy now too.
D
What are.
B
I was a lasers when I was a kid.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Burn anything now. Lasers are like.
A
Well, those are regulated and they have. You know what a dazzler is? Those are what the military use. They point at your face and click it and it blinds you.
B
Wow.
A
Yeah. Permanent for, like, 30 seconds. So it's akin to, like, if you stare at a bright light and then you get that temporary spot where you can't see. They. They flicker. They flash the lights in your eyes. So they've been doing it in Afghanistan for, like, 20 years. You pull up to a checkpoint and they'll flash you in the eyes of the laser. So you're blind and you're like. Like, I can't see anything.
B
We need those at all the riots.
D
Well.
A
Well, I can cause permanent blindness if they hold it too long.
D
I gotta Get a couple lasers that'll. That'll blind you.
A
Did you guys hear about the story where, like that crypto bro had a black light party, but instead of getting black lights, he got UV lights and fried everyone's nose?
C
Yeah.
A
No. And people now have permanent vision damage and their skin's all burned.
B
Oh, no.
A
And they were like, wait, wait. He bought sterilizing UV lights.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Because apparently in. He thought that the high end black lights, they were like, high end expensive were better. And he was like, I'm rich. We're gonna buy the super expensive ones. And they're not black lights. They were disinfectant lights. So people are like, permanent vision damage.
B
Wow, that's a lawsuit.
A
Unless you wore your sunglasses indoors at
D
night, it's a lawsuit. But I mean, if the guy's buying, you know, UV lights that will blind you, it's probably not all the brights. He probably doesn't have anything to take, you know, Kick it, Stone, so.
B
Well, indeed. Yeah. I don't. I don't wear sunscreen, but you might have wanted to on that day.
A
Yeah. Well, your eyes are the bigger issue. You got to cover them. Cover them up and get some sunglasses.
B
Apparently, persimmons are really good for that now.
A
Persimmons?
B
Yeah.
A
What is that?
B
Your eyes? I don't know. You know, all. I mean, everything. I learned all my nutrition facts on Instagram now.
A
I. I was told that you have to be careful eating persimmons because they can get. They can gum up your system and then.
B
Cause they taste terrible. I don't know anything else other than
A
they're supposedly, you know, what's.
B
You know, Trust my health.
A
You know what the worst fruit ever is?
B
Yeah.
A
Pears.
B
Really? Yeah. Too much sugar.
A
I call them sand fruit.
B
You mean just. Just taste, texture wise.
A
You like the flavor and texture is just. It's just garbage.
C
So is the apples at hotels are
A
always really saying, yeah, Sandy.
C
Yeah.
B
The difference between a good apple and a bad apple.
C
Yeah.
B
It's like two different fruit.
C
It's the weirdest thing. It's like hotels, you just. You're guaranteed a sand apple.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah. You know, have you seen the new wave where people are taking kefir and they're freezing a fruit and then you pour a little kefir in there.
A
Oh. You mix it up and it turns into ice cream.
C
Yeah. We need to get on that wave.
A
Yeah. We should freez watermelon.
C
Yeah.
A
Well, you.
C
Turns into ice cream.
B
I call it kefir. Is it kefir?
A
It's both. Yeah. It's actually just kefir.
B
Is it sweet?
A
Yeah. You buy that, you buy the kefir, like, Lifeway or whatever it's called, and then what they do is you take a watermelon, you carve a hole, and then you pour it in and you just swash it around and it becomes watermelon.
B
Strawberry ice cream, like, but yogurt. Frozen yogurt.
A
Yeah. There was a, There was a company thing I got an advertisement on, and it was frozen cottage cheese.
B
Delicious.
A
Yeah. And he's got, like, peanut butter, and he's got, like, chocolate chip flavor. The only problem is good people, like,
B
don't eat it enough.
A
Every time I think the name of
B
it was really bad, we got a rebrand.
C
Maybe it's a downstate thing, but all my family from Illinois eats cottage cheese with, like, every meal.
B
It's really good. I got my wife to do it.
A
Yeah. Okay. Last year, I want to give a shout out to this company because I think it's an amazing idea with a terrible name. It's called Smear Case.
B
I'm sorry, Cottage Cheese said they went from bad to worse.
A
It's, it's amazing because it's super high protein. And I got an ad, an advertisement for it. I wanted to order it, but it's
B
like, like the name.
A
How do you order ice cream off the Internet?
B
Yeah, but the name, too. It's like, is that what's gonna happen in the bathroom, bro? What is.
A
You can't call it a postman with, like, cold hands. Froco. Yeah. Called Froco, Vanilla Bean, Strawberry mocha, peanut butter. I think it sounds great.
D
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
D
Why do we have to go there?
A
Maybe I, I, I just gotta say, like, with all due respect, I love the idea, and I'm not trying to be a dick, because I think it's fantastic, but just. Who's your marketing? Like, who told you it was a good idea to call it Smear Case?
C
Near case.
A
It's like, he's got a case of smears, bro. What does that mean?
B
Croco.
A
You know what the Hershey Squirts are?
B
Yeah.
A
Everyone knows what that is. Exactly. Gross.
B
It's smear case.
A
So it's like you got a case of the smears.
B
Yeah.
C
Or it's also like a double guts. It's not like, oh, this dude's a total smear case. I'll tell you, it's a good, you can use it for anything.
D
Gross.
C
Yeah. You know, for him, he's a, he's a, A Caesar.
A
I'd love to get some of this stuff. This sounds awesome. It's like ice cream, but it's high protein. Look at 40 grams of protein.
B
I'm always looking my.
A
Think of the gains, bro.
B
Yeah. After I quit drinking and everything else, my Achilles heel is still ice cream. And so I'm always looking for ways to.
A
But that's. That's why when I saw the ad, he was like, I want a high protein, low sugar snack.
B
Yeah.
A
To eat. And because it's blended, it's got the consistency of ice cream. It's fantastic. And then he was like, it's called Smear Case. And I was like, I still like the idea. I just don't like the branding.
D
Terrible.
A
Yeah. That's a bad name.
B
It's worth the try, but I don't know.
A
I. I bet I'd absolutely love it. Strawberry.
B
Yeah, bro.
A
I just. I crack open a cottage cheese, throw some straw, a little bit. A little bit of strawberry jam, maybe like a teaspoon, mix it all up, bang. Healthy treat.
B
I'm a chocolate chip. I do vanilla with dark chocolate.
D
Closest place that I found is in Leesburg, where they have it. Yeah. Really? Yeah.
A
Oh, okay. I want to get some. It's hard to order ice cream.
D
You know what I mean?
B
Like, what do they get here?
A
They deliver it with, like freezer packs, but then you got to go and, like, you got to wait and get it right when it comes.
B
Right.
A
Actually, a porch pirate steals it out
D
towards D.C. there's a couple places.
A
It's pretty. It's pretty wild. Like, it's got distribution all over the place with the name like that.
D
Yeah. There's. In Tosin. There's a couple place at Sprouts. The fresh market carries it. So there's a couple of places. Oh, Sprouts has it in the D.C. area.
A
I mean, I love the idea.
B
Give it a review and then recommend a different name.
A
They got merch too. I mean, I got a. I got an idea. I'm just gonna launch my own.
B
Yeah.
A
And I'm not gonna call it Smear Case. I'm gonna call it Froco.
B
Yeah, well, they already have Froko on the bottom.
A
Well, I know, but that's their call. It's. It's Froco. It's not the brand name, it's the item name.
B
Ah, frozen cottage cheese. Gotcha.
A
Right?
B
Yeah.
C
Fro po.
A
Fro Fro pro.
C
O P O P O O. So be fro poo.
A
Just call it like cottage ice. Yeah. You know, you don't gotta call it cottage cheese. You can just call it, like, high protein ice cream.
C
Cottage core makeup.
B
First you have to change the name of cottage cheese. We got to rebrand that and then name it after that.
A
Cottage cream. Cottage ice cheese.
B
Cottage cream is not bad.
C
You know what?
B
Cottage cream is not bad.
C
The terrible name is clotted cream.
A
It's just butter, isn't it?
D
Yeah.
B
But cottage cream, like, I think creamery out in the.
C
The.
B
You know, the. The Highlands of Scotland.
C
It's.
B
It's not bad.
C
It's like. Yeah, he had a cardiac thing. I think it was clotted cream.
B
Yeah.
C
I can't remember. He went down.
A
Smear case.
C
Smear case.
B
I don't.
A
I don't understand. What does smear mean? I assume it's what, like, when they're smearing the cheese on. Yeah, but that's. That's cream cheese, right? A schmear. So it's not. And it's Jewish, isn't it? Sounds that way, yeah. Oh, what? A smear case. What. What's this name? They could have called it, like, dumb box Leveling us.
C
Like, the. That was like, the original. You know, like, people. New Yorkers are really just people that move to New York and they, like, want to, like, show that they're a New Yorker. So they'll say, like, bodega. And it's like the original version of that was people saying, oh, yeah, can I do smear and locks on my bagel, please? I'm like, dude, we're goys here. Just cream cheese and salmon. Like, drop the. But that was like the OG version of bodega. It's like, dude, it's a corner store. Relax. Not Puerto Rican.
D
I don't speak Spanish.
A
So it is funny when I went to New York and I walked into a bodega, and I looked at the bread box and I just said, can I get the roast beef sub with cheddar? And the guy went, what? I said, a roast beef sub with cheddar. And he goes, what is that? And then I was like, that right there. And I pointed at the hero, and he goes, you want a hero? And I was like, dude, okay. They did that to me at Subway. They were like, subway exists in New York, dude. You know what a sub is?
C
Yeah.
A
They wouldn't let me use the word white bread. He made me say Italian bread.
C
He's like, we don't have white bread.
A
You mean Italian bread?
B
Like, yeah, you carry that. You call Italian.
A
You should have just. You should just went, no, that's French bread. That French bread is way better yeah, it's like Italian.
C
Take away or to stay? I'm like, do you mean for here to go? Freaking idiot. This is America.
B
It's all of us.
A
Take away. What is this, the uk?
B
Yeah.
A
They point me to the loo, the lift. Just take your flat.
B
All of them have become cults. It's like, if you don't use our terminology or vocabulary, you're not in our club.
C
Oh, dude. Charlie, he's like, does he say Rotary? What's the Massachusetts thing?
D
They say, yeah, it's a Rotary.
A
What is that?
C
Like, what. What is that club? That's different.
A
A Rotary club?
C
Yeah, that's. No, that's for a roundabout. That's what people like Massachusetts.
A
Wait. It calls roundabouts or rotaries. They call bubblers. You know what a bubbler is? Yeah, you monster.
C
Did you call it that growing up?
D
Yep.
B
What do you call it? Rotaries.
A
You know, the bubblers. Water fountain.
B
Oh, yeah, that's terrible. Humps. I like humps. Speed humps.
C
I could get mine.
A
We say both because in Chicago you had the big humps and the small bumps. So they were different. Yeah, I saw.
B
The first time I saw humps was in England. I was like, I like that.
A
I went to. I stayed at this guy's house in California. So the couple skateboarders from Chicago, me and my buddy, and then two guys from, I think it was Louisiana. And so we're hanging out at his house and I open up his fridge and I see he's got a bunch of sodas. And then I was like, hey, bro, can I get a pop? And he goes, pop? He goes, what?
B
Yeah.
A
And I was like, can I have a pop?
B
Yeah.
A
And he's like, what? And then I said, can I. Can I have a pop? And one of the fridges, like, I don't know you're talking about. Dude, Dude. At that moment, one of the Louisiana guy goes, he's like, hey, can I get a Coke? And he goes, I don't have Coke. And he goes, yeah, you got a bunch. He's like, no, I don't. And then I laughed and I was like, a soda? And he was like, yeah, bro, you can have soda. And then, see, in the south, they call all sodas Coke.
B
Yeah.
A
So he was just like, what is happening? He's from California.
B
Yeah.
A
He's like, what is pop? And I was like, we call it. We call it pop in Chicago.
B
Yeah.
A
Soda pop.
B
Yeah. Family in Ohio is the same way.
D
The fact that everything is called Coke in some places, that's weird to Me.
B
That's weird.
D
You know, I mean, it's like, I get it, you know, Band Aids and. Yeah. But like still, like everything is a Coke. That's just.
A
That's weird how that happens.
D
Yeah.
A
An orange Coke.
D
Yeah, no, that's so.
A
Sure.
D
Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's
B
so in the south when they want to Sprite, they say a Coke. How did they differentiate?
A
I mean, I guess I don't know if they still do, but yeah, they
B
just only want Cokes.
A
And they go, you want a Coke? I'm like, yeah, I'll take a Sprite.
B
Oh, that's weird.
C
That's the sad thing is anyone under 40, by and large has lost their regional accents. Like someone from Jacksonville and someone from Seattle will talk the exact same if
A
you're non regional diction because of the, you know. You know what really irks me though, is when people like, I was hanging out, I was, I was playing poker as, as I do. Right. Every story I'm going to tell you. And it was in Vegas and I was doing joking mobster accents periodically. I was like, oh, geez, he's bringing in the flush ass. And then, and then the guy goes, where are you from? And I was like, I'm from Chicago. And he goes like, oh, I couldn't place that accent. And I was like, I don't have an accent. He goes, yeah, you do. And I was like, bro, do you mean when I was like doing a 1920s joke where I was like, yeah, he's bringing in the, like, I was just goofing off. You thought that was an actual accent
C
from a radio station? Yeah, yeah.
B
Like that's the, the diversity that is our strength. The old school, not the crap we have now.
C
It's so sad that like all the regional differences are gone and now we're just one big monolith. Like, I mean, I'm from Memphis. I don't have any Southern inflection in my voice. Like.
B
No, you just have crime.
A
Well, the. You know what it is? No one, no one in Chicago ever talked like the SNL skit. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. That's not a real thing. I've never met a single person in my life who said Chicago. That's never been pronounced that way. And I've never met someone who's ever said Deb or Grace. Door openers. It's just not a thing. They don't talk like this. And the funny thing is people don't understand that that's a joke. And so if I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm from Chicago. And I'm like, we got hotter. So, like, yeah, Chicago. You know what I mean? Like, as a joke. And then they'll go, oh, it's funny how you have an accent. And I'm like, that's not a. That's a joke. That's. That's a bit. That's an SNL skit. Nobody talks that way now. In Boston, they actually do talk that way. And in Brooklyn, they actually do talk that way. You go to Chicago, you know what? You know what accent? You're going to hear a Hello. Hola, mi amigo. Yeah, that's the accent. The takeover and polish.
B
Yeah. The replacement.
C
I do like the Dallas accent. You know, it's like,
B
That's Plano. And now it's. Now it's Dallas, too, unfortunately.
C
Please do not do that.
A
That's McKinney, unfortunately.
B
That is interesting, though, about Chicago, because I always assumed, based I guess, on the stereotypes, that Chicago did have an accent. I always connected it to, like, the New York, Boston, but it's all because of that.
C
A lot of those guys kind of have, like, a bit of a distinct accent. I don't know. Maybe it's just a general Midwestern accent.
A
Harrison Ford, actually, from Chicago, like, Minnesota has an overlap with the Canadian. Don't you know?
B
Right.
A
You know?
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
I'm like, what?
B
Yeah, Wisconsin.
A
My whole life in Chicago, I've never met someone who said Chicago.
B
Yeah.
A
Never. Not one time. Even old people, nobody said Chicago. And there are. And there are people who genuinely believe that's the Chicago accent. Like, dialogue. It's not a real thing. It's not real.
C
It's all right.
A
No. Nobody says, great gray door openers.
B
I'm glad we got that figured out.
A
Yeah, it was. I think it was, because what happened is they were making fun of the way Mike Ditka talked.
B
Yeah.
A
And he talked like a weirdo. And so then people just came to believe that everyone in Chicago talked like Mike Ditka.
C
Yeah. Makes sense.
B
You know, they turned Ditka's restaurant into an illegal shelter. Oh, what, During Biden's time? Yeah, his. His restaurant shut down and they had illegal living.
D
Right.
A
Wow.
C
That is just.
B
And now the Bears are gone. I don't know.
A
Yeah. The Hammond Bears. Yeah.
D
They officially.
A
Hammond Bears.
D
Is that gonna be. That's gonna be this. This season then, right?
A
I don't know. It's the end of an era, my friends.
B
Yeah.
A
I just.
B
Can you believe how terrible Johnson has to be to allow that to happen? And the state.
C
Oh yeah, Illinois and Hokul somehow kept
B
the bills buffalo to be that worthless. And these people think they're going to be the president. Pritzker thinks he's going to be president. It's like Newsom in California with the rail. The guy's destroyed our state and they think they're going to be president.
A
We're going to go to your rumble rants and super chats. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. And the uncensored portion is coming up in about 10 minutes. You don't want to miss it. It's going to be hot fun. Omega Rosetsu says Phil, you are wrong. Kamala's mother and father were Marxists. She is a Marxist larping as a moderate and is not smart about it.
D
I literally said her parents were Marxists.
B
Yeah you did did say that.
A
I think communism Little John says no Ian, I can actually listen to this one without the conversation devolving into drugs and drug induced psychosis. Phil, you're the ish.
D
Thank you.
B
Is that the what you said there was Little John or Little Wayne.
A
It's just someone's name. Little John. Stephen Bomar says in keeping with Tim cast tradition my wife and I are waiting in the hospital for our fourth fourth baby Charlie. Kurt.
D
There we go.
A
Tell Tate his X account is made and he is ready to start posting.
B
Thank you American loving babies. We gotta we gotta out welcome maybe the haters.
C
Welcome to the world little patriot. I'm glad he already has his ex account. That solves my job for it. So just start posting get after it. I know they've ruined the UI but like you can still push through and put your big fat baby fingers.
D
I don't, I don't see the Max
A
says votes by how much tax you pay is brilliant. Either the left has to admit the rich pay a lot in taxes or the rich pay more taxes to increase the value of their vote. It's a win. Win. Yeah and so my, my my thought is like you're right that people in New York are going to pay higher. They're going to pay more federal taxes because they make more for their standard of living. But when you factor in that most taxes are paid by the top 20% I think more than half the top 20% are basically just in control of everything.
B
I would just love to see these freaks, blue haired freaks just melt down after they, you know, they want to eat the rich and now it's actually giving the rich more power, more yeah, more influence because they actually are the ones that create the jobs.
A
Better idea. Paying taxes is optional. And we multiply your, your vote by your, by your, your tax.
C
Again, Republicans would get wiped out. We're the ones like advocating to abolish like property taxes
A
to go Liberals, Liberals would stop paying taxes outright because then
B
you never own anything.
C
Republicans want to cut taxes.
A
Liberals would stop paying taxes outright. I guarantee you, you go to any lib in the city and say would you like to keep all your tax money? They say yes.
C
They literally just voted in Los Angeles to raise taxes on other people.
A
They want to steal it from other people.
C
Their own taxes too though.
B
Yeah, but the people that can leave are also leave.
A
Communists don't actually want to share their wealth. They want to steal it from other people. If given the choice, they would not pay one penny.
C
That's Republicans too. Republicans.
A
I agree. Nobody would pay tax.
C
Nobody wants to pay taxes.
D
It's great.
C
I'm saying if you gave Republicans the option not pay taxes because they would take that in a heartbeat.
D
Sure.
B
Well, yeah.
C
So why they're trying to cut property taxes.
A
So with liberals.
B
Yeah, because we don't.
A
And then only the people who want to control the system would be paying taxes to try and get their votes more weight.
C
That's. Yeah, that's effectively like the system we already have in many ways.
A
I actually think Republicans would start paying more taxes.
C
No, there's no way.
B
There are some.
A
If your vote was multiplied by Republicans
C
are voluntarily like undercutting their own political power by abolishing property.
D
So the Republicans would pay more taxes if it gave them more, more power in the government because it's better to pay a higher rate of tax and get rid of things like red tape, like get rid of the, the, the government being involved in everything, regulations and stuff. Because then you can go from idea to actual production of, you know, whatever product it is far faster and you can make more money. I really do think that Republicans that would, that especially high net worth people, they would love to pay an extra 5% if that meant there were fewer regulations and they could produce more.
C
Well, that might be true in that situation. I'm just saying, like right now, when the chips are down, if Republicans have the option of more political power or higher taxes or lower taxes, they always take the lower taxes. That's why you've seen the property tax abolition which just like screws over counties.
B
But, but if you could do both, then you know, it's all hypothetical. But the biggest issue you know, you talk about, but when you're paying those taxes, it's the percentage of the tax. If you're paying 15%, I'd pay 20%. If you had certainty in decision making. The biggest problem that business owners have is these four years I'm going to be paying this rate and I'm going to have these regulations four years from now. I have no clue what's going to be thrown at me. If there was some certainty in the market that said, hey, based on your involvement in this process, you are going to have more say in it. I think it would. Well, because that's even out across the
C
board, we should be focusing the other way. We should want to like defend property taxes and attack income tax because income tax is where you can't guarantee where your money's going. Property tax, you know exactly where it's going.
B
I think I, I like flat tax on income tax or something based on consumption. But the thing with property tax to me is the fact that I will never actually own that thing, that the government can always come and take it from me.
C
That's like a natural rights argument. I mean then in theory you don't own your labor, you don't ever own an item if you're paying any tax on it. Like that's not, you're paying for the upkeep of your, of your surrounding community. That's what assigns property value by and large to your house is how nice your community is. Like people in Detroit, their property taxes are super low, right? Because this is a dumb.
B
The school suck and the school suck, etc.
C
Where it's like property tax. It's like the one thing where you're actually like, this pays for the police, this pays for the fire department, this pays for the schools. And if you get rid of it, then like if you live in a blue state like California or Virginia, you're cooked. Because if you live in a red county now the police controlled by Richmond, now the fire department schools are all controlled by Richmond or Sacramento. And so you're just like cooked where I think that we should be attacking the income taxes. Florida and Texas have already gotten ahead of that. But even at the federal level, like, yeah, I mean we have disposed, but I'm like, the property tax is just gonna, it's gonna, you know, shoot us in the foot.
A
Let's grab this. The Fallen 501st says mutant power sound cool till you're the kid whose power is incinerating all human life in a three mile radius unconsciously. And Logan is the only one who can put you down indeed. And then there's one mutant who has the power to explode. That's it. Just one time he can blow up.
B
It's like a bee. One sting. Yeah.
A
And so he just doesn't do anything. And then there's a new character they introduced a few years ago called Forget me Not. No one can remember him. And any record of existence is destroyed immediately upon turning away from him. And so this fills a bunch of plot holes. So they're like, there's a mutant, he's an X man. And Charles Xavier knows he exists because he created a psychic. Psychic. Like a psychic, you know, force in his mind that every two hours keeps refreshing in his memory the existence of this guy. So you're looking at him and he's. He tells you, here's what I'm gonna do. And when you look away, he just doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. So he, he's like, he's the deus ex machina for the Marvel comics to be like, oh, well, that was because Forget me not was there the whole time.
B
Yeah, you lost me on that one. But I like that you like it.
D
It.
A
All right, let's grab a little bit more. A little bit more. A little bit more.
B
I never got into comic books. Collected. I collected them for a while, but I think they're interesting, but more for the value. The potential future value.
C
Yeah.
A
Quantum strange cork says everyone, please get out and vote in the midterms. The choice is simple. Communists or Republicans.
B
This is what, this is my whole argument. I've got people friends of mine I grew up with that are going all the anti Israel stuff and all this focused on Epstein and, and I'm like, guys, you realize the alternative. I get it, you're not happy. I thought, I think Bondi screwed up on the Epstein thing. I don't agree with everything that Israel does, but I believe in them over jihad. But ultimately it's what's the alternative? You're gonna give it back to the people that invited open borders invasion of our country, that want to transgender your children, that want to. I mean everything that want to communize our country or jihad our country? That's what you're giving about.
A
I'm a Bill Mark.
B
Yeah.
A
Any celebrity that comes up, I say, oh, just, you know, actually Bill Mart's Bill Maher is further right than me on a lot of issues. And that's the funny thing though because he's the long standing liberal. It's actually because he hates Trump. If you hate Trump, you're a liberal. That's it so Bill Maher can have, like, further right issues on some of the things that I believe. And I'll be called right wing because I'm like, yeah, Trump's not that bad. And he'll be called liberal because he's like, I hate Trump. That's the defining thing of left and right these days. I actually just think it's. If you're correct about what's going on in the world, you are right wing. And if you are wrong or lying, you are left wing. That's it.
B
There are some people that are not correct, that are still in the right wing camp that need to.
C
Yeah.
B
Wake up. That are clickbaiting and grifting. But.
A
Yeah, but, you know, I mean, mainstream, right?
D
Yeah.
A
Like you're paying attention to what's actually happening in the world. You have a. Generally a good idea of it. I would say that most people on the left don't actually do any research in anything.
B
Yeah.
A
And. Or unlike these, you know, like the story about Trump and like the fraud cases and the felonies and all that, it's just all nonsense when you actually look at the court proceedings. But liberals don't read any of this stuff. They just believe it's true. They just say, well, you know, Trump's a felon. And you're like, yeah, for not directing Cohen to do anything. It's the craziest story.
B
You have to throw good versus evil in there, too, though. There's just a lot of evil people.
A
Indeed. All right. Richard Slammer says, you can't call yourself real comic book fans if you say that one of the most egregious tropes of the past 15 years of comics, evil Superman is a good thing. I don't understand.
B
I don't like that you liked evil Superman.
D
They're good stories, dude. They're just stories.
A
It was, it was. It was a parallel real man. It was a parallel universe story. And then in Justice League, they go to that universe where the Justice Lords are in power. I don't think they show Superman ripping out Joker's heart, you know, but they go to that universe and then Batman's like, we got to stop this. And you know, and then they do because they're like, we care about. So the Justice Lords are like, we found another dimension where you guys have not purified. And so we're going to come and take over. And then Superman wears white and he's like, you're all going to get locked up. Lock them up.
C
Up.
A
You got to do it. You got to do it. Let's grab a couple more here. Eric Shaver says Nick Fuentes used to have a Chicago accent. Yeah, well, the dude's from the suburbs. I. I don't. And maybe was.
B
Was that an accent?
A
He does kind of sound like he. He might have one.
C
I think everyone of that age, like my generation, we just emulate Trump. Like, I think more of that can be explained by just I kind of izing made up.
B
Made up accent.
A
And I'm going to stress this too. The area that Nick grew up in was about two miles from me, and I used to hang out there all the time. I used to hang like. So this is like the countryside area. Lagrange. So it was a couple miles away from where I grew up. Jimmy Dore is from a few blocks away from where I grew up. And Nick Fuentes is from like 2 miles away from where I grew up. And Seamus Coughlin is from like a mile from where I grew up. Something in the water.
B
I did hear something in Coglin.
A
Coglin, yeah. What was his name?
B
There's a little bit of accent.
A
I can call him Coughlin.
B
And Charlie, I mean, Charlie, I wouldn't say. Had enough.
A
And Charlie Kirk.
B
Yeah.
A
Let me just. He's from. Only tonight's. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, Charlie wasn't super close. He's like 15 miles away from where he grew up. But again, I want to stress enough. Seamus, Jimmy Dore, me and Nick Fuentes are all from the same, like two miles.
C
Isn't the Pope from around there too?
A
I don't think he's from where we are. He's from Chicago. Chicago. Are there.
B
Are there difference in.
C
I believe so. Right.
D
Oh, okay.
A
I mean, that's. That's actually like a mile or two from. From us. Yeah. Wow.
B
Are there differences in accents in that small of geographic change?
A
Yeah, there's no accent anywhere.
B
I mean, like New York. You go to New York, 2 mile radius. Not going to change.
A
Nope. You, you, you can drive 30 miles south, 20 miles north. Everyone talks the same. Yeah, there's nobody talking like this. Hey, Richard, you got to fix the creation or. That was a joke. That was never.
C
That one comic. Maniscalco. Sebastian Maniscalco. I think it's just an Italian thing. Maybe that it's just the Italians in Chicago.
B
That's. That it's got to be the attack.
C
He has like a very distinct accent, but it's more like an Italian accent.
A
But that's. That's what I mean. It's like the joking mobster.
B
Yeah.
A
That's, you know, talking like this.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's, that's the only.
A
Come on.
C
Yeah. I was like, he's from Chicago. He's from Arlington Heights. Maniscalco.
A
Yeah. So, hey, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone in your life.
B
I can tell you guys about the bathrooms.
A
We'll talk all about it. So you can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Casts. We're going to be live@rumble.com Timcast IRL. Ben, do you want to shout anything out?
B
God bless America. God bless. Where's my ice hat?
C
So true.
A
God bless Iron Man.
C
Yeah, God bless ice.
B
Where can people find you at Ben berkwam@realam voice, my website's frontlineamerica.com you can get my book Step into Fear pre order it now officially September 8th will be out in shelves.
C
I love it.
B
Yeah.
C
Will you tell us about the carpet shoes in the after show too?
B
Yeah, yeah. And I'll bring out, I'll bring out the other stuff in my bag that's down below the table.
C
The bag you guys have to get in there. Yeah. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtape Brown and we'll be back tonight or no rather tomorrow at noon on the Tim Cast Rumble for the noon live. So come hang out tomorrow.
D
I am Fill the remains on Twix. You can check out my stuff on Patreon. That's also Fill that remains. The band is all that remains. You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime. Carter.
A
What's up, everyone? I'm Carter Banks can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere at Carter Banks official everywhere else.
C
Ben, we did have to take away
A
half your arsenal at the beginning of
C
the show for YouTube. So the after show is going to be pretty interesting. There's a lot of stuff we can
A
get into that we, you know, couldn't otherwise. So let's, let's do it. And, and we will see.
B
I forgot Law and border on real America's voice.
A
Right on. We'll see you all over@rumble.com Timast IRL right now for the uncensored portion of the show. Thanks for hanging out. Sa.
Date: July 21, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (A)
Featured Guest: Ben Bergquam (B) – Host of “Law and Border” on Real America's Voice
Panelists: Patriot Tate Brown (C), Phil (D), and Carter Banks (C)
This episode revolves around a breaking news story: a leftist anti-ICE extremist's attempted firebombing of a federal building in Manhattan, including the context, media narrative, and broader meaning for left-wing political extremism. The conversation expands into analysis of the ideological shifts within the Democratic Party, critiques of progressive activism, polling for upcoming elections, and discussions on culture, cancel culture, and the ongoing evolution of American political divides.
"This is irresponsible and insane...any one of these reporters could have tracked that this guy was trying to cause massive damage." – Tim (08:29)
"It looks like this dude is potentially facing like five or six different charges...he's probably getting life in prison for this." – Tim (17:13)
"If you have 20 of these guys doing it, 20 different locations across a city...that's what we're heading towards if we don't get this under control." – Ben (09:51)
"Over and over and over we see terror attacks and murders by leftists, and there's very rarely any kind of narrative..." – Phil (10:20)
"Bill Maher says he might actually vote Republican...He said the Democrats are communists..." – Tim (04:29)
"If this is the Democratic side – Yes." – Bill Maher (22:02)
"The Democrats...are going to get absolutely annihilated by the extreme left wing of the Democratic party." – Phil (24:05)
"When the boomers are gone, it's going to swing far left." – Tim (31:06)
"These people are living in fantasy land where they believe fake nonsense and they're voting on it." – Tim (36:59)
"Shane Gillis...now has the record for most tickets... Can I just point out how insane it is? He filled a stadium to tell jokes. That's amazing." – Tim (47:47)
"Comedy is having such a moment right now...because it's so focused on the country you live in." – Carter (53:46)
"Women enjoy watching the movies with the guys. Everybody likes seeing the, like, the guy save the woman...When they inverted it...it just started to break everything down." – Tim (79:45)
The episode features a blend of breaking news analysis, ideological critique, and cultural commentary, delivered in the panel’s trademark irreverent, conversational style. The tone is confrontational but frequently humorous, with a focus on the perceived threat of left-wing extremism, media complicity, and the changing nature of both politics and American culture.
End of summary.