LIVE NYC Mayoral Debate, Cuomo, Mamdani, Sliwa & more w/ Adam Johnson

Summary

Timcast IRL – LIVE NYC Mayoral Debate, Cuomo, Mamdani, Sliwa & more w/ Adam Johnson

Date: October 17, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Adam Johnson, Seamus Coughlin, Mary Morgan, Phil Labonte

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Overview

This episode of Timcast IRL centers on the 2025 New York City mayoral debate, politics around illegal immigration, law enforcement, and the shifting American political landscape. Tim Pool moderates a roundtable of lively, independent-minded guests including Adam Johnson, known for his antics during the January 6th Capitol events, as well as political culture commentators and musicians. The group reacts to major moments from a recent live NYC mayoral debate featuring Zoran Mamdani, Curtis Sliwa, Andrew Cuomo, and Hasan Piker. The discussion also branches into broader issues, including DACA police, culture war strategy, legislative redistricting, and questions about dual citizenship in Congress.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Illegal Immigrants in Law Enforcement ([00:40]–[18:39])

• ICE Arrests of Police Officers: Tim highlights a viral story where ICE arrested a Chicago cop found to be an illegal immigrant, reflecting a pattern seen in other Democrat-led states like California.
  • "Democrat jurisdictions have been giving governmental public authority to arrest. They're giving non-citizens the right to arrest American citizens." (Tim Pool, [00:40])
• Debate over DACA and Background Checks:
  • Adam Johnson questions how such individuals can pass background checks, drawing on his own experience post-conviction.
  • Phil Labonte and Johnson suggest the Obama-era DACA framework enabled this, and agencies sometimes outsource background checks to third parties, relinquishing responsibility.
• Philosophical Back-and-Forth:
  • Tim and Phil poke at leftist rationales for illegal immigration, satirically discussing “no human is illegal” and the shifting stance on law enforcement ("Are we going to get more like flip flopping on law enforcement?" — Tim Pool, [16:17]).

2. NYC Mayoral Debate Watchalong and Reactions ([19:31]–[59:02])

Major Issues Raised:

• Prostitution Decriminalization (Roosevelt Ave, open-air sex work, Sliwa argues to "lock up the johns, not the women" [20:30])
• Housing Policy, “City of Yes” (Sliwa opposes rezoning for dense development; debate over affordable housing and business environment, [28:55])
• Gifted & Talented Education (Sliwa points out disparities in program access for minority students, calls for expansion, [32:55])
• Mayoral and Presidential Admiration (Quirky questions about past mayors and presidents, with the panel expressing preference for figures like Reagan, Giuliani, FDR, and Fiorello LaGuardia [30:09])
• Mental Health Crisis Response (Debate over sending social workers vs. police on emotionally disturbed calls, Mamdani backs a team approach, Sliwa calls it “unrealistic” [50:23])
• Climate Regulation (Local Law 97, landlords, and costly building upgrades, [57:42])

Panel Reactions:

• Cynicism about NYC Politics: The Timcast crew consistently expresses disbelief and frustration at policy proposals, the state of New York, and the perceived unseriousness of the debate.
  • "Every question and every answer is a nightmare for anyone trying to do anything productive." (Tim Pool, [57:56])
• Future of the Democratic Party:
  • The group speculates Zoran Mamdani is poised to become a leading figure due to leftist charisma, but note his foreign birth may prevent a presidential bid unless rules are changed ([38:00]).
  • Sexism in Politics: Tim and guests discuss inherent challenges for women candidates, claiming fundraising is influenced by “height for men, and appearance for women” ([36:18]).

3. Broader National Political Themes ([65:09]–[84:53])

• Right-Wing Coalitioning:
  • Extended dialogue about Matt Walsh’s call for the right to unite, even with controversial or edgy elements, versus Ben Shapiro’s argument against coalition-building with “weird” far-right types.
  • Tim emphasizes: "Working with a person or group of people does not mean you endorse everything else they believe." ([71:48])
  • Debate over “locker room talk” in group chats and what should be the threshold for excommunication on the right.
• Redistricting and the Midterms:
  • The episode draws attention to prediction markets showing a near tie in the upcoming House races, defying the usual midterm trend.
  • Supreme Court is apparently set to overturn race-based congressional districts, which could cost Democrats up to 20 seats ([76:58]).

4. Miscellaneous/Oddities & Humor

• Dual Citizenship in Congress:
  • The crew tries with various AIs to determine how many members of Congress are dual citizens, revealing a lack of transparency and official data ([96:05]).
  • "Isn't it pretty wild that ChatGPT and Google are both like, well, there's no requirement to disclose." ([97:48] Phil Labonte)
• Culture Commentary:
  • Tim, Seamus, and Mary Morgan discuss British vs. American breakfasts and weird foods (like blood pudding), using light banter to offset the weighty political conversations ([80:11]).
• Entrepreneurial Shenanigans:
  • Tim jokes about launching “pool water” as a parody loss-leader product, describing the business logic behind it ([109:01]).
• Adam Johnson’s “Immortal Ginger” Photo Series:
  • In response to ongoing “fed” accusations, Johnson says he photoshops himself into historic events and is working on related kids’ books ([124:15]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Illegal Immigrants in Law Enforcement:
  • “A law enforcement officer who is actively breaking the law… It's a felony for aliens to even possess a firearm.” (DHS Assistant Secretary quote, read by Tim Pool, [11:19])
  • “I was told that trespassing is bad.” (Adam Johnson, sarcastic, [14:11])
• Cultural Mood:
  • "You can't win the culture war without creating culture." (Seamus Coughlin, [07:49])
  • "Moderate-leaning individuals have already fled New York. It's like watching three hobos fight over the last etc." (Unknown, [33:58])
• Mayoral Debate Quirks:
  • “Who's the best modern day US president?” / “Donald Trump, Obama.” (Zoran Mamdani, [29:45])
  • “I'd be proud to be the first immigrant mayor of this city in generations.” (Hasan Piker, [44:34])
• On Left and Right Wing ‘Unity’:
  • "The right doesn't stick together. That's our biggest problem by far." (Matt Walsh, quoted and discussed, [67:46])
  • “It is okay to work with people who are not perfectly in line with our values if the thing we’re working toward is good.” (Tim Pool, [114:14])
• Redistricting & Voting Rights:
  • “They want like a racial electoral college… it's insane.” (Tim Pool, [78:19])
• Cynicism about Progress:
  • "Every question and every answer is a nightmare for anyone trying to do anything productive." (Tim Pool, [57:56])

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Key Timestamps

• [00:40] – Tim Pool on ICE arrest of illegal cop and “no Kings” protest fears
• [06:28] – Introduction of Adam Johnson and discussion of January 6th photo mix-up ("Via Getty")
• [19:31] – Panel begins reacting to the NYC mayoral debate (key issues: prostitution, housing, policing)
• [32:53] – Curtis Sliwa details expanding gifted & talented program
• [38:00] – Discussion on Mamdani’s emergence and speculation on the Democratic Party’s future
• [50:23] – Debate over mental health response: social workers vs. police
• [57:42] – Local Law 97, climate change policy, and small business regulatory burden
• [65:09] – Extended Matt Walsh/Ben Shapiro discussion about right-wing coalitions
• [76:58] – Midterms: Supreme Court may upend race-based districting, potential massive shift in House seats
• [96:05] – Attempts (and failures) to identify dual citizens in Congress using AI tools
• [109:01] – Tim explains the pool water marketing gambit
• [124:15] – Adam Johnson’s “Immortal Ginger” tales as parody of “fed” accusations

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Tone and Style

• The conversation is irreverent, sarcastic, and often deliberately provocative.
• There is a strong thread of frustration, cynicism, and gallows humor regarding political direction, especially in NYC.
• The show oscillates between serious policy critique, inside-baseball culture war analysis, and sharp-edged jokes and self-parody.

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For Listeners New to the Episode

This marathon episode offers a whirlwind tour of American politics as seen through the eyes of independent, anti-establishment commentators. The centerpiece is detailed color-commentary on the New York City mayoral debate, but the crew also dives into hot-button national issues (immigration, justice, political strategy).

If you’re seeking nuanced analysis with a willingness to “say the quiet part out loud” (albeit sometimes hyperbolically), plus a dose of meme humor and cultural critique, this episode is a prime example of Timcast IRL’s style.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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And now when ICE goes into Chicago, this is what happens. I got a prediction for this weekend and I hope I'm wrong. The no Kings protests are expected to be all across the country. Massive in Washington D.C. but also in Chicago, New York, Louisiana, Portland. Well, in the past couple of weeks we've had some, let's just say detrimental rulings from judges in Illinois. Trump can't deploy the National Guard, ICE can't put up security barriers. And what do you think's gonna happen when you get a mass, mass protest in an area where police have been instructed, they can't defend themselves and the National Guard can't be deployed to protect them. And CPD has been told to stand down and, and there have been three rammings of DHS agents already. I hope I'm wrong, but it sounds like this weekend could be pretty, pretty bad. Now we got some other stories. John Bolton got indicted. Surprisingly it's not our lead because, well, it's a big news. 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So if you believe in the work that we do and the hours that we put in and think it's important that people hear these stories, please tell a friend, share the URL wherever you can, because it is the most powerful way you can help. Joining us tonight, my friends talk about this and so much more. We've got Adam Johnson.

[Adam Johnson]

Hey, what's going on, everyone?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Who are you?

[Adam Johnson]

What are you doing? Oh, my name is Adam Johnson. I'm a recently pardoned terrorist. Terrible human being in general, if you ask out the population. Former speaker of the House, Former speaker of the House. Short of tenure, but you know, I earned it. I have a book out. It's been five years in the making. The government told me part of the plea deal was I couldn't write a book and sell it. But since the pardon, I can. So it's called taking a stand and you can buy it on my website. Unlicensed furniture movers.com.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Did you use a pseudonym for your. Your book Via Getty?

[Adam Johnson]

I did not. It's actually written by a guy you saw on the Internet once.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, is that what it says?

[Adam Johnson]

It says that, yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So for those who don't know when the first photo came out of Adam carrying the the lecture, like you picked it up and put it down, basically they it said the photo was Via Getty, which means Getty's image distribution. And what, like, some liberals thought your name was Via Getty?

[Adam Johnson]

Yes, there was actually a pretty prominent journalist that made a tweet about it saying, this is Via Getty. If you have any information, please let us know.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Do you guys remember when I can't remember the guy's name? He was at Ferguson during the riots and there were some earplugs on the ground and he's like, are these rubber bullets? And like all. It's funny because, like, me and my buddies who did like actual conflict reporting, face palmed in embarrassment, like, why are you here? You know? But Adam, it's great to have you back on the show, so it should be fun and funny. We look forward to hearing from you. We got Seamus hanging out.

[Tim Pool]

My name is Seamus Coughlin. Over the past 11 years, myself and my team have created over 600 animated cartoons. And the reason we're doing this is because you can't win the culture war without creating culture. And as it currently stands, the entertainment industry is dominated by people who hate our values, who hate our way of life, and who, I believe, hate our country. If you want to help us fight back and become the new entertainment media and compete with Hollywood, help us create the show that we're currently working to fund. We've already made the 25 minute long pilot. The show is called Twisted Plots. It's an anthology series that promotes our values not through ham fisted monologues or preaching, but good story and good jokes. So go over to twistedplots.com help us fight this culture war again. We can't do it without making culture. Thank you so much.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And if you would see as I see and you would seek as I seek that I ask you all to go to twisted plots.com and give $50 now to win the culture war. I could, I could go, but come on, greed. You know, I keep telling Seamus it's just quote, v for vendetta. Mary's hanging out. Hi, everyone.

[Mary Morgan]

My name is Mary Morgan. You can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Tim Cast we're actually going to have Seamus on tomorrow and I'm glad that you broke the ice with your shilling there because I have some shilling to do as well. I'm currently enjoying a cup of my very own Mary's Ghost Blend, which you can now get@cast brew.com. it's s' mores flavored. It's perfect for autumn nights. You're chilling around the campfire, you're telling ghost stories. It's perfect for this season, so make sure you get a bag before Halloween.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Hello everybody.

[Phil Labonte]

My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Buy their stuff. Let's get into it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So much to buy. Here's a story from cnn. ICE arrests police officer in Chicago suburb and accuses him of being in the US Illegally A lot of people are really shocked by the story, but what I find really funny about it is that we've known there are illegal immigrant police officers for some time. This is just starting to shock people. So it is the lead. Check this out. ICE agents arrested a police officer Thursday morning in the Chicago suburb of Hanover Park. I once lived there briefly, accusing him of being an unlawful immigrant. I like I say unlawful from Montenegro. The DHS officer, I'm sorry, DHS says the officer Radul Bovic is that he said that Bovic overstated tourist visa that expired in 2015, according to the department. Bovich was encountered during a targeted enforcement action in ICE's immigration focused operation in Illinois. Hanover Park Police Department shared a Facebook post in August announcing Bovic's recent graduation from the Suburban Law Enforcement Academy, adding they had started an intensive 15 week weeks of field training and evaluation as he continues preparing to serve the Hanover park community. CNN reached out to the Hanover park police for comment and has attempted to contact Bojevic. Is it Bojevich? I don't know. Pronounce it Boyevich. He violated our nation's laws and was living illegally in the US for 10 years. What kind of police department gives criminal illegal aliens badges and guns? It's a felony for aliens to even possess a firearm, a law enforcement officer who is actively breaking the law, said DHS assistant secretary Trisha McLaughlin in a statement to CNN on Thursday. In September, ICE agents arrested the superintendent of Iowa's largest school district, accusing him of being in the country illegally since the early 2000s. I don't. Oh and by the way, leftists, he's white, right? It's a big deal that Proves it.

[Tim Pool]

Wait a minute. So you're telling me it's not motivated by racism?

[Phil Labonte]

No, that's proof that it is. Rac. They're only doing it because he's white.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, because the fact that he was able to become a cop proves racism exists.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Phil Labonte]

All the Latinos are. They're all Spanish descent, so they're white, too. So that's why it's all racism.

[Tim Pool]

That's a very good point.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

This is. I don't think people understand the extent to which the Democrats, over the past 10 or so years, longer 20, have been literally shredding this country up. We sat here, for the most part, American citizens, assuming that our leaders were being good stewards of. Of our American tradition and this country, they were actually opening the door for non citizens to vote, to be law enforcement officers, to work in our public institutions. They were attempting to dismantle this country. And wait, there's more. Take a look at this from the LA Times. This from earlier in the year. LAPD has immigrant officers protected by daca. In other words, they have illegal immigrant police officers that have deferred status. That is the current state. Could Trump try to deport them? Yes, he could rescind daca, and he should. And it is insane that we've come to this point. And I know there's gonna be a lot of people, you know, Rogan was saying recently, like, these guys have been here for 20 years. Have a heart, they should stay. This is the same argument they made in the 80s and the 90s. And every single time they promise they will not do it again, they'll say, okay, let's grant amnesty to these people who've been here for like 20 years, but we just won't do it again. And then they do. So it is not callous to say, guys, three strikes and you're out.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, everyone that's illegal has to go. Don't think all there is to it.

[Adam Johnson]

Don't they do background checks? Shouldn't this have flagged somewhere? I know that when I was on federal probation, I couldn't get a job at Walmart and McDonald's. One of the requirements was you had to be gainfully employed or go to college. So I couldn't get a job at Walmart or, or McDonald's because I had a felony theft that I was charged with. They said I was a loss prevention issue.

[Phil Labonte]

So I assume that they, if they did do or my assumption. Right. This isn't like I know anything, but I assume that they were going by the standard set by The Obama administration, which was DACA recipients can stay and they get to be treated as if they're. They're legally here. So if that is the case, and again, this is just an assumption, if that's the case, it does make sense. They would be like, well, it's fine. He's. He's a deferred action. So because he's deferred action, we're going to go ahead and allow him. Allow him to get a job.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, I know in Iowa, they used a third party to do the background check on the superintendent. So they washed their hands of it, said, this isn't our fault, we used a party. They must have missed it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know what the deal is, obviously, but, like, now, new sheriffs in town. Gotta go.

[Adam Johnson]

I don't care, all of them.

[Tim Pool]

But have you guys considered that no human being is illegal?

[Phil Labonte]

I have considered that, and then I rejected it out of hand because why? Gotta go back. Everybody here, everybody that's here illegally has to go. Goodbye.

[Adam Johnson]

I was told that trespassing is bad.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, exactly.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You were, weren't you?

[Phil Labonte]

Someone said that.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That'S not correct. You're allowed to go wherever you want, whenever you want and stay there forever.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

Because borders are an imaginary line.

[Adam Johnson]

I think.

[Tim Pool]

Borders are an imaginary line. What can I do about it?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I think when people start to realize how many people have been granted authority, I mean, Democrats in San Francisco, I think, I'm sorry, it might have been Sacramento, but California and New York were trying to pass resolutions that illegal immigrants would be able to vote. The argument was, if you live here, you can vote. Now, of course, the Democrats are gonna argue, no, no, this wasn't about illegal immigrants. But that's the game they play, because to a Democrat, no one's illegal.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So literally, by virtue of being here, you're our neighbor.

[Tim Pool]

Now what happens, A friend we haven't made yet. That's what I always say. Newcomers, they're just friends we haven't made yet.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

What happens when Democrats bring in 20 million people and then Trump tries to enforce against these people who are here? They will scream Ayuda May in the streets and other illegal immigrants will attack the police to protect them. Because if you own a house and three guys break in and you, the homeowner, say, get out of my house. Do you think these men are going to say, sure. Or do you think they're going to say, now we outvote you?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they'll probably say they outvote you. They'll say squatters rights.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They'll probably just attack you and take your stuff.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, they probably won't have a chance to speak in my house if they break in.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

See, that's the thing, though. I got, I got to pause you there. That would be the case if you were arguing you had the monopoly on violence as the authority in your house. But let's try another analogy. You live in your home and you have a roommate who has asserted the authority to enforce the, the rules of the apartment, and they hand their gun to one of these guys who broke in and say he's in charge. Now, that's basically what we're seeing in our cities. When you have an illegal immigrant who's a cop, he's going to tell you what for.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

He's going to lock American citizens up and we're going to pay for it. For these guys who are not citizens.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's totally wild. I'm also curious to see what the left is going to say about this because ICE has arrested him. Are we going to get more like flip flopping on law enforcement? Are they going to start bellowing about how we need to support law enforcement in this country after they've been openly defying federal law enforcement and ice?

[Adam Johnson]

Well, these cities that are complaining are the same cities that were pepper balling residents for being outside after curfew during COVID Oh, yeah. So, you know, for them to say we care about our citizens, but that a few short years ago we were locking people down and shooting them for being outside their, their front doorstep. I mean, take a side.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Look, the only thing I have to say about this is all of the, the arguments surrounding it don't matter to me. If they're here, here illegally, they got to go. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't matter.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Recipients.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't, I, I don't have a problem with sending DACA recipients back. Because if you're daca, if you're a DACA recipient, you can see the writing on the wall. You need to prepare for, for the eventuality, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Well, in the idea that, like, legislatively, with a wave of the magic wand and without these people having gone through the traditional legal process to enter, they could just be given this protected status has been the game the Democrats have been trying to play with illegal immigration for years and years. And most notably under the Biden administration, when they were saying these people had temporary protected status or when activist judges set the precedent that if somebody says that they're afraid to go back or request asylum they are therefore here legally because they're an asylum seeker. It's ridiculous. So you can't allow them to morally grandstand on this and say those people are protected. You can't send them back because they fabricated out of whole cloth a set of rules that gave those people special protections, even though they already broke immigration law to get in here.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, well, that's how we have birthright citizenship. It's the same thing. They say, well, think about the children. They use them as pawns to keep the whole family here. That's also got to go. Birthright citizen.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but, but thinking about your children, that's fascism, right? Thinking about how you can make the best possible country for your own children, that's fascism. You have to think about everyone else's kids instead.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't, don't have to do that. I'm not going to do that. And I don't care what names they call me. They've already called me all the names. They called me all the names that they can call me. So all of that stuff is like water off a duck's back. I don't care.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They got to go.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Have you ever seen a duck in the rain? They just stay, Stop moving and stand there to minimize the amount of exposure to the rains. The water just rolls off. Videos are hilarious. I'll be like 10 ducks just like this. And they don't move and it just.

[Phil Labonte]

Keeps going right off.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's what we're doing. And we can't do that. I mean, we've gotta. You gotta get out of the rain, you know, I mean.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, they're gonna. Look whether it's raining or not, they're gonna call me names, so I don't care.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, yeah. I think, I think Chicago this weekend is gonna. Going to get absolutely insane. They, the judge said no barriers. The judge said no National Guard. And now you've got exposed DHS that have already been rammed numerous times. So it's almost like the judges are intentionally creating a circumstance where there's going to be murders or they're going to force the cops to engage rioters during the no Kings protests. I got a question for you guys. Yeah. Should we watch the New York City debate, the halfway mark?

[Tim Pool]

I'd be interested in seeing snippets of it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's roll with it. Let's jump to the New York City mayoral debate because, you know, we'll see.

[Zoran Mamdani]

What we got going on in Albany as a sponsor to decriminalize prostitution.

[Hasan Piker]

The difference between myself and Andrew Cuomo, of which there are many, is that.

[Zoran Mamdani]

There is no one woman who is a prostitute. That would be decriminal.

[Adam Johnson]

What do we jump into?

[Zoran Mamdani]

That is what the bill says and that's what. But he said if you listen very carefully, that would take Roosevelt Avenue and explode it because it would make it legal for prostitutes.

[David]

Real quick.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

How would he enforce the law?

[Zoran Mamdani]

It's illegal. I went to Roosevelt Avenue, I talked to the store owners, I talked to the neighbors. I walked down Roosevelt Avenue. Prostitutes there at 9 o' clock in the morning.

[Mary Morgan]

In the morning?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Why was he doing with open air prostitution and Times Square? You don't go after the women. The women are the victims here.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, shut up.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Lock up the johns. You shame the giants. You let everybody know about the giants. The madams and the pimps need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And these absentee landlords who knowingly rent their rooms there are procons out for the use of prostitution. The Department of Building should come in, padlock the building, seize.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It's not the prostitutes.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Many of these prostitutes live in Delray, Florida.

[Tim Pool]

But sometimes it is sex traffic.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

In the 80s, it's not.

[Tim Pool]

We did it. When the status quo becomes like they're.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Never choosing to do that and they're doing it again.

[Curtis Sliwa]

And thank you, Mr. Enforcement. That's why the prosecution.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We're going to go to Sally now.

[David]

Thank you, David. We're going to talk a bit about experience and beliefs on the ground tonight, but we want to probe a bit deeper into each of your mindsets.

[Tim Pool]

As long as they're wearing burkhagen, he's like, I actually want to punish landlords who don't house prostitutes.

[David]

Your experience on the campaign trail time and again. But you pretty squarely lost the democratic primary to Mr. Mamdani, forcing you, a lifelong Democrat, to run as an independent. When you announced that decision, you said, quote, when you get knocked down, learn the lesson and pick yourself back up. What lesson did you learn and what do you feel it said about you? Something you did wrong, Something that you need to change about yourself?

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah, I think in the primary campaign, I did not do enough on social media, which is a very effective medium now. I think the assemblyman did do a better job on TikTok and social media than I did during the campaign, and that has changed now. I've also increased my activity significantly, but my agenda is exactly the same. I am the Democrat, although I'm not on the Democratic line. He is a Democratic socialist called Barack Obama evil and a liar. Didn't vote for Kamala Harris. Fight and deliver is.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I agree with that. I will fight for people.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I will fight the bureaucracy, and I will deliver results. New Yorkers need the mayor to get something done. This is all words and theories.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That actually is a bad move for him.

[David]

This is a question about.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Because for, like, someone like me, there was someone like me. He called Barack Obama a liar and didn't vote for Kamala. Like, I'd be like, okay, tell me more.

[Hasan Piker]

Like, I just have to say it's been an hour and 20 minutes of this debate, and we haven't heard governor Cuomo say the word affordability. That's why he lost the primary. That's why he'll lose the general election. And you can lie all you want, but the truth is I voted for Kamala Harris. And I'm not the one who's funding by Bill Ackman who called Kamala Harris.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Unqualified to be the vice president on social media, where he's like, go communism. Yes. And he's saying things like, there are.

[Zoran Mamdani]

A lot of New Yorkers who. Who support me. And there are a lot of Jewish New Yorkers.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I don't live in New York anymore.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Because they think you're anti Semitic.

[Tim Pool]

So it's not about population laws. I know it's been.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Do you think he's anti Semitic, Mr. Clinton? I don't make those judgments about people. Are you a racist? Are you an anti Semite? I know there are many Jewish people who believe he is anti Semitic. I believe not. Condemning the globalized intifada. What he has said about Hamas, I can see where they are inflamed.

[David]

Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt. I covered your speech in an upper west side synagogue where you said anti Zionism is anti Semitism. There is no difference. And you were talking about Mr. Mum.

[Tim Pool]

Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[David]

Jeff Bridges, Why are you still living above our garage?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you teach me.

[Adam Johnson]

So.

[Tim Pool]

Dana.

[David]

Oh, no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them.

[Mary Morgan]

It's designed to be the most powerful.

[David]

Iphone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.

[David]

Nice. Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Get the new iPhone 17 Pro on.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

So what are we having for lunch?

[David]

Dude, my work here is done.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

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[David]

1H 2025 is@t mobile.com Donny is that not an allegation?

[Zoran Mamdani]

No, I make that statement all the time. I was referring to Mannami. Okay, all right. We have to move on.

[Hasan Piker]

I have denounced Hamas again and again and it will never be enough for Andrew Cuomo because what he is willing to say, even though not on this stage, is to call me the first Muslim on the precipice of leading this city a terrorist sympathizer, is to send mailers that artificially lengthen my beard. Is to say to New Yorkers that they should be.

[David]

You are the Democratic nominee and you're also a member, as we've been discussing, of a political organization that may be less than New York, the Democratic Socialists of America, which will be dismantling capitalism. New York City is the global headquarters of the financing industry. So how would you be the mayor of Wall street and the dsa?

[Hasan Piker]

You have one minute mayor of this entire city. And that means ensuring that the wealth that we generate is also every single New Yorker can actually feel in their pockets. Because what we have today is a system that has generated the most wealth in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, where one in four of our neighbors are living in poverty.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's actually based.

[Hasan Piker]

You can't look at 500,000 kids hungry every single night as just the cost of doing business in this city. That's something we have to actually change. And I'm going to do that by fighting for my neighbors in Queens that I've come to know who are not only the ones who own teapots and toy stores, who own diners and dry cleaners, but also the ones who work there. Because right now all of being pushed out of this city by corporate, by.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Private equity, by a politics that refuses to fight for them.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Just.

[Hasan Piker]

I will finally.

[David]

Just a quick follow up, Mr. New York might start to have problems. Definitely socialism.

[Tim Pool]

Can you imagine?

[David]

A little bit scared to hear your policies.

[Adam Johnson]

What would you tell us people leaving New York?

[Hasan Piker]

Well, I would first say that I wouldn't be Here without the support of Latino New Yorkers because it was the majority of their support.

[Tim Pool]

They all helped to make me the Democratic nominee so much. Democratic socialism is a belief in the Spanish words, like ordering in a Mexican restaurant.

[Hasan Piker]

To deliver that dignity.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

When I go to. I go, can I get a larger mozzarella?

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Hasan Piker]

The way that we practice our politics.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, exactly. And that's why I literally had people when I was in art school, I had someone correct me for saying Muslim and not Muslim and they were not even Muslim. I was like, bro, I don't. I don't pronounce things in the accent native to most of the people who are in that category. That's not how I don't like when I'm talking about New York pizza. I don't call it a New York slice.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Why do you believe you don't affect.

[Tim Pool]

An accent whenever you pronounce something from a different region from.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't say Brooklyn like four years ago.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Curtis Sliwa]

We would have chaos.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Did I not?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Of course I did. And I get praised for that. Now I'm trying to get people to vote for me, not just on the Republican line, but also my wife Nancy, who is the best thing that ever happened to me, created the first ever independent protect animals line which calls for no kill shelters and putting animal abusers in jail. But the other thing that differentiates me from both of my adversaries is that I am opposed to this city. Yes. Which will destroy the residential neighborhood. Both of them for the city of yes. So when you vote for me, whether on the Republican line or the protect.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Animal sign, turn your ballot on all.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Those initiative and referendum, imagine they've said, how can you courtesy Republican work with a Democratic majority in the council? Adrian Adams is in agreement with the Democratic city council. People are in agreement with me. No to the city of yes. Which will take your homes and provide you lithiumion battery warehouse. Thank you. House which are like miniature nobles.

[Adam Johnson]

Thank you.

[Curtis Sliwa]

The only candidate who is opposed to.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

The city of yes wins. Just to clear.

[David]

How do you bring down costs if you don't build more housing?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Oh, it's very simple to build houses.

[Tim Pool]

They change you just look in New.

[Curtis Sliwa]

York City, we have so many dense areas where you no longer can use the commercial space.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Sign language used to be office in honor of katanj.

[Curtis Sliwa]

And you just convert into residential houses. You don't need to go into the outer. You don't need to use wetlands, which they seek to do. If you build a new building, it takes five years if you convert.

[Zoran Mamdani]

All right. Mr. Sleewood, thank you.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

We want to change the pace a little bit.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Change the pace.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And just like, how do you get cost.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Curious about who you admire? Who's the best modern day US president? Mr. Cuomo.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Donald Trump, Obama.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Modern day? Well, I'm partial. I was Bill Clinton's Housing and Urban Development Secretary. We built affordable housing all across the United States. Empowerment zones.

[Adam Johnson]

We had the best secretaries back then.

[Hasan Piker]

No, I would say FDR, Mr. Sliwa.

[Zoran Mamdani]

He's modern day.

[Tim Pool]

Even though he put people of a specific ethnicity for more than two terms.

[Zoran Mamdani]

That's modern day.

[Tim Pool]

All the things you're afraid Trump will do.

[Curtis Sliwa]

A man that ended up being loved by Democrats and Republicans alike. The greatest governor we've ever had in my lifetime, George Pataki. Three terms. No chaos, no corruption.

[Hasan Piker]

I was asking.

[Curtis Sliwa]

He actually beat.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Governor. And this modern day US President, who's the. Yeah, who you thought the best modern.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Best president in our lifetime or I would say our best president in our lifetime. That I've experienced. I would go back to Ronald Reagan.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Ronald Reagan.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Okay. How about the best New York City mayor?

[Tim Pool]

Mr. Sliwa?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, that was only 40 some odd years ago, so.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I just didn't expect to say Reagan.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Rudy Giuliani, who endorsed me last week.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Okay.

[Curtis Sliwa]

And I'd have a little bit of Michael Bloomberg thrown in because he liked responsibility.

[Hasan Piker]

I think the best New York City mayor of all time is Fiorello LaGuardia.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Mr. Cuomo was Bill de Blasio last debate.

[Hasan Piker]

No, I've always said Fiorello is the best mayor of all time.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Who's yours, Mr. Cuomo? Is it of all time or modern time? Best New York City mayor in Europe of all time. It is Fiorello LaGuardia. We agree. Recently, I would say Mayor Dinkins and Mayor Bloomberg. Okay, how about the political leader, dead or alive, you most admire, Mr. Mamdani?

[Hasan Piker]

I would say I admire Bernie Sanders.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Mr. Cuomo, my father.

[Phil Labonte]

Gross.

[Mary Morgan]

I hate his smile.

[Tim Pool]

I know.

[Curtis Sliwa]

I said it already.

[Phil Labonte]

George Pataki was loved by dad the rest of his face.

[Curtis Sliwa]

And the greatest mayor in our lifetime.

[Tim Pool]

All right, great.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I just have one more before Sally starts to ask you about schools. A show of hands. Who supports Kathy Hochul for reelection?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Don't do it. Don't do it.

[Hasan Piker]

It's a decision that should be made after this general election.

[Zoran Mamdani]

So no decision, Mr. Cuomo, you handpicked her as your lieutenant governor. No, no. You have to know who's running. Yeah. Okay, so.

[Hasan Piker]

And I would add that I do think that Kathy Hochul, our Governor has been doing a good job and not only supporting.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Do you support her for reelection?

[Hasan Piker]

Not only delivering for New Yorkers, but also standing up to Donald Trump.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Just what do you support for reelection? Endorser.

[Hasan Piker]

I'm focusing on November.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Why don't you endorse her?

[Hasan Piker]

I appreciate her supporting Republican Mayor Curtis.

[Curtis Sliwa]

A Republican governor Stefani, thank you. Like Giuliani.

[Zoran Mamdani]

You want to talk about schools?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Save this city.

[Zoran Mamdani]

You want to talk about school? Sally.

[David]

Okay, thank you, David. Let's turn to education. There are a number of issues it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Kind of feels like watching like a presidential debate, one that's been controversial in.

[Tim Pool]

The campaign.

[David]

Or accelerated even. Mr. Momdani, you have said that you want to phase out the gifted. Well, Mr. Cuomo and Mr. SL want to expand it. Mr. Slee, we will start with you. What is your plan for the program? You have one minute.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Gifted and talented.

[David]

Yes, gifted and talented.

[Curtis Sliwa]

I have two younger sons. Melinda Katz, the queen's da they both attempted to get into gifted and talented.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

He needs to just go as far right as he can, just off the deep.

[Curtis Sliwa]

It did not.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

He needs to just pull up the text messages from that group. Checking.

[Curtis Sliwa]

We don't have enough slots right now. The 1900. We need to have at least 5,000 slots around the city. What they have not done at the Department of Education is make these tests available in black and Hispanic communities. So for instance, you have 77,000 children who are four years old. Only 10,000 have taken the test. Only 2,000 are accepted. Why not offer the test to all 77,000? And even if a gifted and talented class only has three or four in a minority school, give these children an opportunity to excel too. That would make it fair for everybody.

[David]

I just want to thank you, Mr. Cuomo. How does your plan differ from Mr.

[Tim Pool]

Sleep as you also have your favorite is you're like I just wish I could vote for everyone there first.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I support mayor of control. I think it would be I just.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Want to point out like all moderate leaning individuals have already fled New York education 40 years. It's basically like watching some post apocalyptic dystopia and three hobos like fight over the last etc.

[Mary Morgan]

Trump did get a jump in votes in New York City this past election.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Accessibility.

[Mary Morgan]

He got 30 preparatory courses.

[Tim Pool]

That's right.

[Zoran Mamdani]

They wanted to take shockingly well in certain blue areas.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Those that are wondering we were, we were thinking about not playing the debate. We decided to because Zoan Mamdani may end up the leader of the Democratic Party. It's not a joke or an Exaggeration. His popularity in New York is skyrocketing. You're going to have a Senate race coming up. He may very well try to scot rocket himself to the front of the Democratic Party. AOC can't do it. He's a guy.

[David]

He might be able to program behavior.

[Tim Pool]

Do you not think women are capable of anything men can do while wearing heels?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

When AOC came out of that rally with what was his name? Like Bowman or whatever, and she was going, I was like that raspy, high pitched voice.

[Tim Pool]

Sounds a little close to the sh. Word, bro.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Which one?

[Tim Pool]

Shrill. You're calling her shrill? And I don't appreciate. Misogynistic dog.

[Mary Morgan]

A nasty woman.

[Adam Johnson]

She's also.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I'm not a part of this conversation.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You, you, you. There, there are, this is the left, Sarg. I'm going to be a leftist right now and say there is inherent sexism against women and AOC is not going to be able to win. Look, I've done a non profit fundraising and we talked about this all the time. I was on Shaub and Calen's podcast. I love this, this, this point. There is. I'll ask you, Adam, there are two characteristics, each one unique to a man, to a woman, that ensures they will be excellent fundraisers. Among men, what do you think is the one characteristic that ensures they will be able to raise lots of money from the public?

[Adam Johnson]

They have to be independently successful with themselves.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

No, that is completely irrelevant.

[Mary Morgan]

Height.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yes, that is correct. Tall men, regardless of what they say, will make lots of money. Now, among women, there is one trait that ensures they will make lots of money from the public, and which would be giant personalities. If I, if I, if I'm reading the room properly, I think you're correct. But you know, in, in layman's terms.

[Adam Johnson]

They have to look nice.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Large knockers.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

So is that literally.

[Mary Morgan]

How is that even provable?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So, Nancy Pelosi. I will put, I will put it this way. I have worked.

[Phil Labonte]

It's so offensive, but it's so true.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I have worked in several offices. I think probably four or five different fundraising offices. Some of these offices fundraised for multiple different companies. The one, and I was a manager and a director. And the one thing that was consistent across the board was that like I knew this One guy was 6 foot 5, dumb as a box of rocks, he would walk up to people and go, hey, so like trees make oxygen.

[Tim Pool]

They thought, they thought they were being robbed?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

No, they would just, they were like, all right, women. It was all women. And they would give him their credit cards like that. And then the women with big boobs would walk up to guys and the guys would hand over their credit cards. Then there were like your average person and they would struggle. There was one guy I knew who was short and pudgy, who was really good, but he talked like Joe Pesci real quick. Come on. And then people would just be like, hypnotized.

[Tim Pool]

He had an oily charisma.

[Adam Johnson]

They're called short kings.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Indeed. So, you know, he had the confidence and the aggression. But that's the point I'm making about aoc is that there's something about leadership you do not. Tall, deep voices inspire people and shrill voices do not. And this will always be a disadvantage for female candidates. So Zoran Mandani has a very good chance, in my opinion, of being the leader of the Democratic Party within the next four years.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, five, ten. Does he make the cut?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, if he wears high tops.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It doesn't matter because Democrats are all like your. I describe the Democratic Party as like the Horde. So for those that are not familiar with, with warcraft lore, the alliance was like the human, the kingdom of the humans, the elves. And they have like these big beautiful cities. And then the Horde was like degenerate, random filth that came together just like. Because they had no choice. And so among Democrats, you'll find short, fat, you know, like failure of individuals demanding everyone else pay for their stuff. So you don't need to be 6 foot foot tall. It helps. But Zoran is the smarmy, weaselly leftist. He is the. He has the best chance in my opinion, among any emergent Democrat. When we talk about how they have no leadership and no, no backbench, Zoran is the front of that. And in fact, I would argue right now Zoran is the best Democrat that exists for the party in terms of rallying potential and charisma. But he's a little early. So AOC has, you know, six, seven years behind her, affording her a lot more space. I don't see AOC ever being able to win a presidential race. Seriously. Ever.

[Adam Johnson]

Not as she keeps putting on those.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Unless. Unless the Republican. Unless there's just two women running and then it's AOC versus another woman. But Mamdani, with, especially with this. If he wins, if Mandani wins this race, and he likely will, he is going to be the leader of the Democratic Party.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, but he can't be the president because he wasn't born here.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So that's a Good point.

[Tim Pool]

But they don't try to change that.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They already, they already are.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean, if he becomes the leader of the Democrat Party, I mean, you need, you need a, an amendment.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They'll just know.

[Tim Pool]

But they override the process all the time. Like you have these judges who have no authority to tell Trump what he can and can't be doing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, I get, I get what you're saying, but it'd be very difficult to come up with the method to actually override.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I disagree. They're gonna go the Cenk Uygur route when he filed the suit and say that a person who is naturalized is a natural citizen. And that Cenk Uygur's argument, which is it's a decent argument if you're gonna go this route, is that if someone becomes a citizen, they are a citizen in all rights and privileges. If the argument is that some citizens are more equal than others, then you have no equality under the law. And trust me, if the left wins and they take the Supreme Court, they are absolutely going to make that argument that you cannot have unequal citizenship.

[Phil Labonte]

You would need a new Supreme Court for that.

[Tim Pool]

In fact, what the left would do is they would say no one who was born here can be president. It's time to step aside.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They would argue that if you're white, you can't be president, cuz too many of them have been white. And that's not equality. They would argue that it's inequality under the law to have only white presidents, therefore the next president has to be not white.

[Tim Pool]

They kind of already do. Yeah, they kind of already do. Because they're like, well, our, our party can't nominate some other white guy. We've got too many white guys.

[Phil Labonte]

If Barack Obama is black, then they can also say that Barack Obama is white because he's half white. He's half black and half white. So if you can say he's black, you can also say he's white. So that means we have never had a black president. So now it's all white presidents. So it's only fair to have an actual.

[Mary Morgan]

Everyone pretty much seems that the black overrides the white.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, only when it's. Only when it's convenient.

[Mary Morgan]

Right?

[Phil Labonte]

Only when it's convenient. And the Democrats have consistently used those kind of. Or used things that are, are one way when it's convenient and then a different way when they're. When it's not.

[Mary Morgan]

If you weren't born here, you shouldn't even be able to run for school board.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I agree.

[Adam Johnson]

Much less be a superintendent.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I want to. Guys, you should be able to be. We'll jump back to the bay, but I want to pull this up. This is from Steven Crowder, hidden camera. Zoran Mamdani campaign citywide canvas director admits plan to force NYPD to defy ice, make it harder to deport illegals. Confesses coordinated socialist takeover of New York City reveals the Democratic Socialists of America is the backbone of the Mamdani campaign. Quote, the thing that we really keyed in on was South Asian Muslim voters and getting them out to vote. We organized the mosques. We get the imams, tell people to go vote. We get young lesbian white women to give. To give out flyers in a mosque. The people that I worked with on AOC's campaign are actually on Zoran's campaign. And then a couple of people I worked with on Jamal Bowman's campaign are actually on Zoran's campaign. The only thing Mandani can do is stop the NYPD from helping ice. He can go to the NYPD and be like, do not let them into the courthouses. So this is. This is pretty intense. Because should Zoran Mamdani win, Right. We are looking right now at this. There's a former federal prosecutor in Chicago interviewed about the allegations that ICE agents and DHS were defying court orders. And he said, we stand on the edge of a precipice, staring into the abyss. If Trump starts defying the courts, we have no idea. It's going to be chaos. And that is exactly what they're already arguing has happened. And with the judges telling Trump to tear the. The dhs, take the. The barriers down, Trump can't deploy National Guard and these massive, you know, million person marches planned for this weekend, it's going to get nuts. If Zoran Mamdani wins in New York, it is going to be another city that falls to what I would only describe as a non American influence or under the control of a non American entity.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, and these people have nothing but criticism.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We got sanctuary city policy to pull us up.

[Adam Johnson]

Sure, sure.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Assigned to every person who is undergoing any review by the federal government or any legal proceedings and put the full weight of the. The city government behind it and make sure they are legally protected.

[David]

Mr. Slee, what was your plan?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Look, going after the criminals, that's the job of Immigration and Naturalization Service, ice. But when they have to perform under a quota here to speak to many of the men and women who serve this country, it's putting Too much pressure to go outside of courthouses, to go Home Depot, shape ups or the backs of restaurants.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

New York has gone. Even their right wing candidate is saying let illegal immigrants to workers.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Now. I can tell you I have three sons. None of them are going to do that work. Some Americans will, but most won't.

[Adam Johnson]

Sounds like you're a terrible father.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Migrants who are workers, who are essential workers. I use ICE to go after the drug dealers.

[Adam Johnson]

Look at the color of my skin.

[Curtis Sliwa]

The sexual.

[Mary Morgan]

It's basically calling his son predators.

[Curtis Sliwa]

And those who are sex trafficking and involved.

[Tim Pool]

My socks are better than. You don't have to do that stuff.

[Hasan Piker]

I'd be proud to fee the first immigrant mayor of this city in generations. And it's at 26 Federal Plaza that I've seen what used to be moments when New Yorkers would be getting their citizenship turn into moments of tragedy where judges are asking New Yorkers who are there for a routine immigration check in whether they're prepared to leave in the very same clothes that they arrived to that courthouse. I agree that we need more legal representation. I also think we need to actually be able to stand up to Donald Trump because I heard from pastor in East Flatbush, Pastor Galbraith, who told me how he accompanied a member of his congregation to 26 Federal Plaza. He sat there as a judge was determining her fate. They managed to convince the judge to replace the deportation order with a TPS order, but they knew that ICE would not care about that change and they had to sprint her out of the building, smuggling her into the elevator in order to get her back to Brooklyn.

[Adam Johnson]

Sounds like the priest should be arrested too.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Let's play this clip real quick. What's this clip? Phil Giussemi.

[Hasan Piker]

It's genocide. And I find the comments that Hasan made on 911 to be objectionable and reprehensible. And I also think that part of the reason why Democrats are in the situation that we are in of being a permanent minority in this country is we are looking only to speak to journalists.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Bro. Hasan is.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Oh, he's deciding to move its headquarters to New York City or to die.

[Tim Pool]

It's crazy it's taken this long.

[Zoran Mamdani]

The CEO is concerned someone with taxes.

[Tim Pool]

Toxic record was able to get look at the camera and make your pitch.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

To that city to come here and.

[Tim Pool]

Not there in any race.

[Hasan Piker]

In 30 seconds, New York City has something that Dallas or no other city across this country could actually offer. And that is the quality of life. That is the arts and the culture, that is the people that make the city so special. And I, as the mayor of this city, will deliver that quality of life, will deliver the safety that is the cornerstone of an affordability agenda, and will ensure that companies choose to come to this city and also choose to stay in this city. Because so much of what drives the tech sector is a hunger for innovation, a unrepentant desire to actually innovate. And those are the very things that are going to characterize my city government.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

In this tax staggering cost for the workers. We are going to make campaign more.

[Hasan Piker]

Affordable so that workers who want to work at those companies can actually be able to do so. And we're going to Ensure it's actually.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

20% of the new York City economy.

[Hasan Piker]

Where we see businesses opening and also staying.

[Mary Morgan]

You can't handle it.

[David]

Something of a reverse scenario for you. The CEO of a similar company, 1000 Good Jobs, tells you she's very close to moving her headquarters out of New York City. She cites everything from taxes to the crushing cost of living for her employees in New York City. How do you convince that CEO to stay? Please look into the camera and make your elevator pitch. You have 30 seconds.

[Tim Pool]

Longhouse, look in the camera.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Other companies in New York City.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I'm sorry, just went for it.

[Zoran Mamdani]

The question is to me in this camera.

[Hasan Piker]

Yes.

[David]

The question is, how do you convince the CEO of a company with a thousand good jobs who's looking to move out of New York City because of the high cost of living for her employees and taxes, how you would convince her to stay in New York City?

[Zoran Mamdani]

In 15 seconds.

[David]

30.

[Adam Johnson]

Okay, 15.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Now I get it.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I understand your frustration. I understand that the far left has been raising taxes and making like the enemy. We get it. That's gone. The dsa, the socialist orientation. We're not socialists. It didn't work in Venezuela, didn't work in Cuba, didn't work here. We know that we have to work with business. We want to be your partner. We want to have taxes that help us grow our city but are competitive for you.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I'm relocating to New York City together.

[David]

Mr. Sleewart, let's talk about business because assume the big tech company that we pitched to Mr. Mamdani earlier has decided to move to New York. And it's a thousand good paying jobs and the CEO wants to be based in Astoria, Queens. But there's a loud pushback of residents who don't want the noise and the traffic. How can you convince the residents to accept the.

[Adam Johnson]

Don't you live in New York?

[David]

You're speaking to a very powerful community. How can you convince.

[Curtis Sliwa]

But we saw that with Amazon. Amazon wanted to come in and AOC led the charge and local elected officials to say no to Amazon. That was a big mistake. I would say this. Our companies are being recruited away by the day. We have young people who are going to school here who could fill their needs in these high tech industries who also are being lured away. We need to cut their income taxes for five years. Tell them if you go to school here, graduate here, no income taxes for five years. It's an income tax holiday. And the most important thing we have to be able to assure the executive that this will be those who aren't from there.

[Tim Pool]

Like New York City has a lot.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Of criminals who make it entire have a good quality of life.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Thank you.

[David]

We need to move on to a.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Democratic socialist of America that stopped Amazon and cost us 25,000 jobs.

[David]

So Cuomo, we need to move on to a crisis that is very important to to a lot of voters and that is people struggling with mental health problems. Roughly 500 times a day someone calls 911 about an emotionally disturbed person. And in a limited number of cases, when the person is not believed to.

[Tim Pool]

Be such a way to put it.

[David]

Social workers are dispatched instead of police. Mr. Mandani, you want to do that on a much larger scale. So we want to know how will this work? When will you send police versus social media? They're calling it a crime.

[Hasan Piker]

I know we have a program here in New York City called Be Heard that is attempting to do this kind of hurt. But we've had a mayor.

[Tim Pool]

You're just gonna have to be heard.

[Hasan Piker]

That it's been unsuccessful to the extent that even when there was an assessment there's a criminal. 60% of calls that could have been addressed by B. Heard instead of the nypd Be Heard was not actually responsive to it. And that's because we haven't had the political will to deliver on what is a crisis that affects so many New Yorkers, which is the mental health crisis. What my plan will do, an innovative plan of the Department of Community Safety will take what has worked elsewhere in the country, a program in Eugene, Oregon where they took 24,911 mental health calls out of the police department. They were able to respond to all but 311 without police assistance. When there is a concern for safety or of violence, Absolutely. You would have the police there. But what we are doing today is actually ensuring that every single call is going to the police, not allowing them to do the work that they signed up to. Do.

[David]

How will you determine whether there is a concern for safety or violence? What is the line between the calls?

[Adam Johnson]

I'll ask what color they are.

[David]

Police will be dispatched and the calls to which social workers will be dispatched.

[Tim Pool]

Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[David]

Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you teach me.

[Zoran Mamdani]

So Dana.

[David]

Oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them.

[Mary Morgan]

It's designed to be the most powerful.

[David]

Iphone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.

[David]

Nice. Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Phil Labonte]

T mobile is the best place to.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Get the new iPhone 17 Pro on.

[Phil Labonte]

Us with eligible traded in any condition.

[Tim Pool]

So what are we having for lunch?

[David]

Dude, my work here is done.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

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[Hasan Piker]

Is also going to be one focus.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

On violence and the threat of violence.

[Hasan Piker]

And I also trust the operators who will be receiving those calls.

[Phil Labonte]

This is how much respect I have for both.

[Hasan Piker]

They do every day today for so many legacy points.

[David]

Please. There has been a lot of discussion that you would send social workers to domestic violence calls which police are concerned about. So you're saying no. Okay.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

How come. How come his head is at a slight angle?

[David]

How can you be sure that a situation that does not sound violent when someone calls 911 become violent in the moment assigned as backup.

[Hasan Piker]

I think what you do you actually follow that have shown us this can work when you're willing to ensure that you're trusting the mental health experts who.

[Mary Morgan]

Have been doing this where they call.

[Hasan Piker]

For the police when they need the police, but their initial impulse when there's no.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I was gonna say I take offense to that but I'm not sure if he's a communist or an Islamic extremist, so I don't know which one.

[David]

Have encountered plenty of these types of situations in your decades of work with the Guardian angels. So you see this approach working. You're not A police officer. But you've helped out in situations.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Play a video of him just like mercilessly.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Boy, another fantasy. That's not Eugene, Oregon. Have you ever been to Eugene? I've been to Eugene. Come on, this is New York City. City. We have so many emotionally disturbed persons that are in need of help. I will tell you this, Andrew. You close the mental health beds that were taking care of them 40,000 when you came into office, down to 4,000 because of your cuts. There's people to live.

[Tim Pool]

There's no mention of victims in this crime at all. Yet you notice zero mention of victims.

[Curtis Sliwa]

They need mental care.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

We need to make right now.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Course, I've been in perpetrator 300 shelters. It's Darwinian there. Survival of the fittest. If we can make our shelter system safe, we can get men and women who are homeless in there, especially veterans who are not giving any attention to who we put out in wards island at 10 o' clock at night, release during the day. Don't give any training, have them roam about. And obviously when you have nothing to do, you end up getting into trouble.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's a bunch of veterans causing crime in New York.

[Curtis Sliwa]

That's the problem that we have in New York City, and I'm the mayor. That can change. I deal with them every day in the streets, in the park.

[David]

Okay, Mr. Cuomo, do you think that the NYPD handles these calls for emotionally disturbed people in distress?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I think Zoran's got like inner ear.

[David]

Infection, something in the middle.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

There's like people are tweeting his head to always tell theory.

[Zoran Mamdani]

There's an advantage when you actually have experience. I've run homeless programs. I ran the homeless programs for the federal government. I've worked with cities all across the nation.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I've run the homeless.

[Zoran Mamdani]

You get a call on a telephone about a mentally ill.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

No, no.

[Tim Pool]

That would.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It would grind the very dangerous situation. They would force men to walk on a wheel.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I think you should have a mental health worker.

[Tim Pool]

And it would grind their grain accompanied.

[Zoran Mamdani]

With the police officer. Because these can be explosive situations. In situations seemed apparently prisoners would be.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Forced to walk on a wheel and they would be standing on a wheel with platforms and it would spin, grinding.

[Tim Pool]

The RFK is going to bring that.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Back and get the people off the streets. That's the humane thing. And get them the care they need. Not the institute, not institution. Institutionalize 40,000 people again.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, it would be a supportive housing.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Now, which is what we use. And forensic crazy people who need them.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Let me get this Straight. A police officer is there first. He has to wait for the arrival of a mental health.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I would send them as a team.

[Curtis Sliwa]

As a team.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That sounds like a great buddy.

[Curtis Sliwa]

That's not realistic. The police officers are going to be the cops. He's going to have to deal with it.

[Hasan Piker]

First and foremost, he has experience running homeless programs. What he has experience doing is cutting funding for the very programs that prevented homeless therapists here in New York City. As the governor, he cut funding for the Advantage program, which was putting New Yorkers who had otherwise been in shelters, otherwise been homeless into apartment.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Brief response, Mr. Cornwall.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Program 14 years ago. That was a pilot program that had a work requirement. It was very controversial. It was $65 million.

[David]

You're talking about Advantage. Just so we know, the Advantage program.

[Zoran Mamdani]

It was 14 years ago. 65 million. I added billions to the homeless budget. Funded the homeless budget larger than any governor in history. Okay, okay.

[Hasan Piker]

He cut that program. Homelessness skyrocketed.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We have aired this for 14 years ago. Did not.

[David]

It was during the Bloomberg administration. And yes. Okay, Okay.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I want to ask you about climate change. As New York City confronts the impact of climate change, one issue already on the desk of the next mayor is Local Law 97. Passed in 2019, the law requires large buildings to gradually reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. Wow. That may require very expensive upgrades to buildings which some landlords and co op owners say they just simply can't afford.

[Tim Pool]

Dude.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Wondering how each.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to make a comment.

[Zoran Mamdani]

You have 30 seconds, Mr. Cuomo. A local law 97. I support. Implementing the law is going to be the key because it has to be done in a way.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

What was that, Seamus?

[Tim Pool]

Every question and every answer is a nightmare for anyone trying to do anything productive.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

They're like, what about higher taxes for people who own businesses? What about the fact that we have no desire to uphold law and order? We want to let criminals do whatever they want and steal whatever they want from people. What about these extra regulations we want to impose on businesses to fight climate change and ensure every single building is, like, rigged up with devices that minimize CO2 emissions? Woody. Nightmare of a city.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I know everyone wishes that political debates were real. And this is as close as you get with shows like this. Because if I was asking questions, I'd be like, is there anyone up there that believes that the federal law pertained to immigration should be enforced as is written? And then I'll be like, nah. And I'd be like, okay. Or like, zoran, how come you won't Straighten your head. What's wrong with you? But for real, these are the questions people are thinking. And I'm half kidding.

[Mary Morgan]

He's dark tetrad.

[Tim Pool]

He's a narcissist in my.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It's funny, but he probably is mayor.

[Curtis Sliwa]

I slow that process down. We need our co op owners.

[Phil Labonte]

City was just tweeting, complaining that he got brought up and started before me.

[Zoran Mamdani]

It was very dangerous situation. Dude.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Serious person. Dogtober 7th isn't going away.

[Adam Johnson]

He's only bringing it up.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

K911 is going to keep going.

[Phil Labonte]

I love K9 11, Hasan tweeted. Deeply unserious person to bring a twitch streamer up twice. Especially considering I oppose the Republicans. Cuomo worked with them to gridlock New York State policy.

[Mary Morgan]

He brought it up twice specifically asked, though.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's what.

[Phil Labonte]

That's what Hasan said.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Wouldn't it be amazing if, like, for no reason, Zaran Mandani is like, climate change is a very serious problem for New York City. Hassan did shock that dog. But we're going to upgrade our building.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to say it. I think the dog deserved to get shocked.

[Hasan Piker]

We've seen it be done in the Clean Energy Challenge.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Well, I actually like Hasan and I think his dog deserves it.

[Hasan Piker]

Stupid animals we desperately need to hit.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They sell shot collars for a reason.

[David]

Loves somewhere.

[Adam Johnson]

Kristi Noam's taking notes. I don't have to shoot.

[David]

You have all said that you want to be mayor for all New Yorkers. So will you march all the parades that mayors have traditionally marched in, or are there any that you would boycott, Mr. Sliwa?

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, they probably.

[Curtis Sliwa]

I think the mayor has a responsibility whenever possible, to march in parades to celebrate whatever that parade is performing. As I've been a grand marshal of the Pulaski Day parade. I was proud of to celebrate.

[David]

Are there any that you would boycott, though? I just need to move this along.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Excuse me.

[David]

Would you boycott any of the city's parades?

[Curtis Sliwa]

No, I would not boycott any parade. It's a mayor's responsibility to be available to all racial, ethnic, religious groups.

[Zoran Mamdani]

No, I wouldn't. Unless they discriminated. Okay.

[Adam Johnson]

Meanwhile, in Florida, the LGBT parade that.

[Hasan Piker]

Happened every year, really focusing on the work of leading this city.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's it.

[Hasan Piker]

I've already missed a number of those parades because I've been trying to as possible.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Okay.

[Hasan Piker]

I don't have the list of all the parades I've missed.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Wow, that's a lot. Mayors should be going to all parades.

[David]

Let me ask you.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I am announcing. I am now Announcing in New York City because they've all said that they will not miss a parade. The White Americans only parade.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I have not thought. I don't even know what. Parade doesn't exist, frankly.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

All the White Americans of New York parade.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Every parade has the right to a exist in New York City. You protect the Christopher Columbus statue City.

[Hasan Piker]

I'm telling you, my focus is on affordability. I'm not thinking about.

[Curtis Sliwa]

You're not answering the question.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Thank you.

[Curtis Sliwa]

You're not answering.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We have gave the finger to the Columbus Day statue that issues come up. That's what we call a disgraciado. Listen, we're in the last couple minutes and we thought some questions.

[Tim Pool]

This is hysterical, dude.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We thought we had some questions that maybe give a glimpse into your life, your personality away from the political podium. What's your go to breakfast order at the bodega?

[Phil Labonte]

What kind of question is that?

[Tim Pool]

What do you ask?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Eggs.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Mr. Cuomo. Same thing. No salt. Also Mr. Mumdani.

[Hasan Piker]

Egg and cheese on a roll with jalapenos.

[Adam Johnson]

No.

[Mary Morgan]

Eats it like this.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Have you ever purchased any kind of.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I'm going to give him that one. I have nothing like a good Kaiser American cheese.

[Hasan Piker]

White marijuana at a cannabis shop.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Okay.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

With some fried egg and some jalapenos.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Mr. Slee, when I was shot five.

[Curtis Sliwa]

Times, I've had Crohn's disease. I did use medical marijuana.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yes. Okay.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I'm high right now.

[Zoran Mamdani]

In a dream scenario, we know it's not possible, but the Mets are playing game seven of the World Series on the same night as the Knicks are playing game seven of the NBA Championship. You can only go to one.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Was gonna go.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Which one will it be, Mr. Sleeveless Team? This is the Mets, game seven. Knicks, game seven. Even.

[Curtis Sliwa]

I'm not going to the Mets game. I'm a Yankee fan. True baseball fans. Either like one or the other. I'm going to the Knicks game. That's my team, the Knicks.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Mr. Cuomo. I'm going to go half and half. I can make it back and forth.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

All right.

[Hasan Piker]

This is what New Yorkers are sick of. Just pick a team.

[Zoran Mamdani]

What's your answer?

[Hasan Piker]

I'll be there for the Knicks.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Okay. Well, there's a lot of ground covered. We'll leave it on that light note. Thank you. Spirited debate. We thank you as well. We hope you got a lot out of it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I got.

[Adam Johnson]

I got.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I got to run. Voters, the New York City campaign finance, we thank heartily and we urge you to check out their whips.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I want. I want to run for office, but not to actually win. Just to say based things on stage, offensive things. Like, they'd be like, okay, the Knicks and the Mets, where you going? I'd be like, neither of them. They both suck. Give me a better question.

[Adam Johnson]

Just like I've always thought if I run, I'm going to run a smear campaign against myself. I'm going to say this. The worst things about me, everything that I would. That would come out during a campaign, I would just say it up front so we can talk about actual politics and policies.

[Phil Labonte]

So, like Eminem.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Just take away all the power from. Just start rapping about how to. All the terrible things that happen in your life.

[Adam Johnson]

I did strike a child with a vehicle once. That did happen. I think I should air it out now.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It was intentional.

[Adam Johnson]

He was riding his bike in the, you know, in the crosswalk, which is.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Everyone was riding his bike. He was riding his bike on the sidewalk. But he had it coming. I, I thought, well, he's a.

[Adam Johnson]

He was going to grow up to be a bicyclist too, so you got to nip it in the bud.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

He had a menacing hair sticking up like that Alfalfa character from Little Rascals. And it just. Oh, it grinds my gears.

[Adam Johnson]

He's fine now.

[Phil Labonte]

He's fine now. Mostly he.

[Adam Johnson]

He drank most of his meals anyway, before, this was.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Should we, should we go back talking about news?

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely.

[Phil Labonte]

Please.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Hey, let's get controversial. We got this from media. Ben Shapiro takes torch to his own colleague's weird idea that conservatives, conservatives must unify with far right.

[Tim Pool]

Coming up on today's Ben Shapiro Show, President Trump honors Charlie Kirk with a posthumous medal of presidential freedom.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Plus, we get to a supposed blockbuster.

[Tim Pool]

Politico story about groiperism, white supremacy, ugly stuff inside Young Republican chats. What does that mean?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And what is the duty of conservatives to, quote, unquote, unify with such stuff? We'll get to all of it first. October is packed with new release anyway, so Matt Walsh was like, we got to put aside our differences and come.

[Hasan Piker]

Together to defeat the left, because the left is evil.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And Ben Shapiro is like, actually, gang, we don't have to do that, and we shouldn't do that because they're weird and they don't like Israel. And so that's. That's basically the debate. Which side are you guys on?

[Phil Labonte]

Whichever side gets more Tim Pool impersonating Ben Shapiro. That's the side I'm on.

[Mary Morgan]

Can you do more of that? I want to hear more argument.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

More argument From Ben. No, that was the argument. And now we're going to have a serious discussion over who's correct. Matt Walsh, Join the gripers or Ben Shapiro. No, Gripers. Even Gripers.

[Tim Pool]

Well, that's the Hill. And also, I'm just. I don't know if they were talking about Gripers, but I'm going to tend to agree with Matt Walsh on things, if I'm honest. I haven't heard. Now, that's maybe not the best way to approach something like this because I haven't heard both arguments, but just generally, I'm more aligned.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You know, I agree. And not for any of the substantive reasons. It's just because in my mind, I can imagine Walsh screaming, deus. Walt. Ben Shapiro.

[Mary Morgan]

Ben, look, all Zoomers are Nazis on some level.

[Phil Labonte]

I said it the other day.

[Mary Morgan]

They're not Nazis and they are Zoomer Waffen.

[Phil Labonte]

I said it the other day.

[Mary Morgan]

They grew up on the Internet. Why is anyone surprised that they talk like this in. In polite company?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You know, when I got it, I.

[Adam Johnson]

Will say I air with Matt Walsh. That's. That's where I side with it is because I have a family group chat. It's my wife and all of my kids, and my wife actually had to get kicked out of the group chat because of things that my kids say. She's like, I just don't want to hear these things from my children. Where do they get this from?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And I'm like, I just said it.

[Tim Pool]

I just want to make a point real quick before we even read this. This is really important for you, actually, because there was a time when you and everyone else who was caught up with all the nonsense of January 6th would have been considered too extreme for other people on the right to advocate for. So who's deciding who's too far right for us to stick with?

[Phil Labonte]

You have to go.

[Tim Pool]

And the left always sticks with the far left, no matter what.

[Phil Labonte]

No, that's not true. You have to go.

[Tim Pool]

You don't think so?

[Phil Labonte]

No, not at all. They excommunicate people all the time. Look at what they're doing to.

[Tim Pool]

What they'll.

[Phil Labonte]

Look what they're doing to Fetterman right now.

[Tim Pool]

Far left. Enough excommunicate people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, that's true. It is. It is always the more moderate people that get booted, but doesn't mean that they always stick together. They do boot people. And then, like, it depends on who and what. Like who they're talking about and what was said. Yeah, like, I don't think there was anything in the group chat. That I've seen. Just talking about what I've seen. There's nothing in there that I've seen that struck me as. As anything other than like, dudes just shit posting. Right? That's what. That's what it seemed like. All the stuff that I've seen. And I'm perfectly fine with jokes.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Let me read. Matt Wall says the right doesn't stick together. That's our biggest problem by far. Conservatives are quick to announce each other, jump on dogpiles, disavow, attack their allies. I said a few weeks ago that we all need to band together in the wake of Charlie's death. And the answer I got back from a lot of people on the right was basically no. Well, okay then, guys, we'll just lose. Instead, the left will keep up the unified front and defend their guys no matter what, while we keep throwing each other to the wolves at every opportunity. Great plan. I want to stress this as the point you guys are just making. Matt Walsh is not saying to join neo Nazis. He's saying the guys that were making these posts are not. They were just being. They were trying to be edgy in a group chat. And by all means, you can argue, maybe a little inappropriate, but not meant for public eyes. It was just. It was. It was. What's the political equivalent? Equivalent of locker room talk, basically, that.

[Tim Pool]

Shit posting what Phil said.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So I have no problem saying in certain circumstances, if, like, someone said something racist or dispatching, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's. That's terrible. Next question. Right. You know what I mean? When the left goes online and they publicly advocate for, like, my murder, they get celebrated. And I don't see aoc. AOC coming out being like, everybody on Blue sky needs to chill out. The funny thing is, the left's version of this is publicly available for everyone to go watch, and they never denounce it. And the one time the right has something not even nearly as offensive, what the left does on Blue sky, it's the apocalypse to these people and to conservatives. So silly. I'm with Matt Walsh on this one.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

Did Gavin Wax ever deny the allegation that he leaked it, or is he just like, complaining about being canceled?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Is that what everybody is basically saying? He did it?

[Tim Pool]

He.

[Mary Morgan]

I don't think he's denied it, which is telling.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Zoran Mamdani]

And if.

[Mary Morgan]

If it's true that he. He was the one who leaked it to Politico, well, it appears to be just over personal beefs within the yrs. Not because he saw this group chat and Was like clutching his pearls, like, gasping and scandal. He probably talks like the exact same way in his group chats.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Well, some people are claiming. Some people are. Some people are claiming that Gavin.

[Mary Morgan]

Young right wing men, like under 30.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

This is important. There's people claiming that Gannon Wax didn't leak it.

[Tim Pool]

Okay?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It's a flat, false story pushed by Politico to create division within trust. Young Republicans.

[Mary Morgan]

Okay, well then who the hell did it?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Well, we don't know. But, but my. So I have seen people post like, hey, Gavin did not do this. And my response is, okay, well, I need proof that he did. If you want me to condemn somebody, I will tell you this outright. You want me to condemn somebody. Disloyalty. Done.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. Don't came in.

[Phil Labonte]

I have more of a problem with the person that leaked it than with any of the jokes that were made in the ch. Chat.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, whoever leaked it needs to be excommunicated. And Matt is right that I will. People on the right are just allergic to taking their own side.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Whoever leaked it, I will. I will give a ride. They can ride shotgun in my cyber truck to the latest DSA meeting where they can join their new faction, losers. Well, Matt's right here, though.

[Adam Johnson]

I mean, we, we need generals on the field. We've not actually won yet. The Republicans do a good thing, we maybe win an election, then we go to bed.

[Phil Labonte]

But there is no winning. Like, it's not like. It's not like we're ever going to be in a position where it's like, oh, the left has been vanquished. You know, I mean, even the founders knew that, you know, whether you like Reagan or not, he said, look, we were only one generation away from losing liberty. You know, the founders knew that the, you know, the price of freedom is the turn of vigilance. This is not something where we can just say, oh, we won and now it's done. It doesn't end. There is. No, no, no, it's over. You're gonna have to always be teaching your children and creating culture and doing all the things that we talk about it'.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

There's no stop. Generational.

[Adam Johnson]

Generational mindset.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Milo posted this sworn affidavit from Michael Bartel saying that Gavin blackmailed him to get the chat or whatever. And people are saying that's evidence. And Gavin haven't. Hasn't issued a statement. So for those aren't familiar, Gavin Wax, he's been on the show before, and I think he works. He works in the Trump administration. Right? He is the cos, Public Diplomacy and Public affairs at the State Department.

[Tim Pool]

I just. I want to make another point here, too, because I think this often gets lost in these conversations, which is that working with a person or group of people, people does not mean you endorse everything else they believe. It doesn't mean you endorse everything else they've said, and it doesn't mean you endorse everything else they've ever done. So this conflation will occur where it's like, well, Matt Walsh says the rights should stick together, but there are some bad actors on the right. Okay, well, you will. You can work with bad actors in certain circumstances if they share a positive goal, which is why people spent years talking about bipartisan efforts. Oh, well, even if Democrats are trying to do something good, I'm willing to work with them on that. People talk about Trump pushing for criminal justice reform in certain areas and how good it was that he was willing to work with left, even though they're completely evil because one of their goals was good. And so my argument is, if the standard is that we should be willing to work with leftists who hate our way of life and want to destroy our country if we have a similar goal, how can you not say that we should work with some people on the right who we don't agree with on everything?

[Adam Johnson]

We wouldn't have NASA without that Operation Paperclip.

[Mary Morgan]

You know, it's just crazy that, like, after Charlie Kirk's assassination, this is still even a conversation, because he understood this perfectly, agreed, he worked with and never said a bad word about anybody he worked with, despite disagreements, despite being pushed behind the scenes and publicly to condemn so many people he worked with, including Tucker Carlson, most notably. And this is still even a conversation that we're having on the right.

[Phil Labonte]

Too many people, absolute cowards. They're afraid of what the left is going to say about them. And that's something that we need to become completely allergic to. Right? I don't care what the left is gonna call me. They've already called me everything that they can. I know what kind of guy I am. I know the kind. Like, I know, like, that I'm not a hateful person. Like, I'm not, like, these people have to get out of here, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm just not that guy.

[Tim Pool]

Well, and I just want to mention, like, obviously this is something I would say as an evil right winger, but. But I know everyone here. I don't know you as well, but everyone here. I know none of you are like, Secret haters behind the scenes saying these wild things. But I'll see the accusations that are lobbed at all of us for our political views. And it's complete and total nonsense. But ultimately, the thing that really has to be considered going along with what Mary said about how insane it is that we're still having this conversation after they killed Charlie Kirk is of course, yes, perhaps Charlie Kirk wouldn't condemn certain people on the right. But also, this is past the point of them canceling us. Right. Like, lives are at stake here. You don't throw people under the bus when there are lives at stake.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I got a tweeter from Matt Walsh and I'm going to completely disagree with him. I'm sorry, guys, I can't. I can't side with Matt. Let me read this tweet for you and just let me, Let me finish this and I'll explain why. Just Matt's wrong. He says one side of the aisle is responsible for the mass slaughter of 60 million babies. One side wants to castrate children. One side wants to destroy the family in the church. I just fundamentally reject any claim that there is any moral equivalence between the radicals on the right and those on the left. Get back to me when these right wing radicals actively fund and facilitate the mass execution of babies and then we can talk about moral equivalence. Yes, I will unite with anyone to oppose this force. No, no, no, stop. Matt is completely wrong, okay? It is not radicals on the left that abort babies. It's the moderates.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's not a joke. That's the truth.

[Tim Pool]

No, you're completely correct. That's the only thing he's incorrect about there. And it's. And it's very technical.

[Mary Morgan]

He was also pointing out that this is personal to him because after Charlie Kirk died and leftists were celebrating, celebrating it, his name was probably the second most popular suggestion of who should be next.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Mary Morgan]

And when you add that level of gravity to it, you understand why he would respond this way.

[Tim Pool]

Yep, 100%. Like, well, people are out there literally calling for violence against him and his family. And no one on the left is decrying that. They are at the same time demanding that he decry bad statements from other people on the right.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, the goal is to make us quiet, is to make us silent. And I tell people, if you're afraid of. Because they're afraid of losing something at this point, their lives, but if you're afraid of losing something that causes you to be quiet, you've already lost it because you've Given it up.

[Tim Pool]

Amen.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Let's, let's, let's jump to this story to give some people hope. Hope. This is from Kalshee. Which party will win the US House next year? Holy crap, it's 50. 50. Take a look at this. This is remarkable. So historically the opposition party will win control of the House opposite to the presidency. And Democrats in April were at 80%. Well now it's 54% Democrat. 46. Republicans are not polls. This is the prediction market, meaning regular people have decided to make a bet the Republican Party is going to win. Which is crazy, but I believe it's true. Why? There is only one thing that trumps economics in an election and it is security. And the far left has been violent and dangerous and they've been escalating. I think people see that and they're like, this is terrifying me. Regular people. And that's why slowly over time the Democrats chances have been going down. However, as of recent, the major issue is that it appears Supreme Court. Supreme Court is set to agree with Republicans on getting rid of this race based districting program that exists. Newswire says Democrats in the south face wipeout. If Supreme Court guts Voting Rights act they likely will. That's the prediction. If they do, then all of these race based congressional districts will be gone and Democrats will lose upwards of 20 seats. Stephen Miller saying how many people just realized Democrats had as many as 20 extra seats based on years of unconstitutional race based gerrymandering?

[Tim Pool]

Literally the entire argument from the left here is that there is a right that exists somewhere hidden in the penumbra of the shadow of our Constitution that minorities have a legal right to voting blocks based on their ethnic or racial identity. Which is insane.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean it's Clearly. But the 14th Amendment gives, you know, guarantees equal protection and that doesn't, that doesn't mean that, you know, they will, they're allowed to make sure that certain races are represented. Like that's, that's, you can't guarantee that. Oh well, we have to make sure that we district in a way to ensure Democrats win. Because that's really what it boils down to.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. They want like a racial electoral college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They want the electoral hcbu. No, but, but seriously, they want like an electoral college on the basis of which ethnic or racial group you're a part of and then you're vote counting towards that voting block and it's insane.

[Adam Johnson]

Which is odd to me because we both, I mean all of us exercise the same rights and have the same rights. I Understand the necessity to have rights based on your race or preference based on your race for how laws and, and things are passed.

[Mary Morgan]

What it is is a tacit admission that certain racial groups have their own self interests separate from other racial groups, and that's how they vote.

[Adam Johnson]

That sounds racist to me.

[Tim Pool]

Sounds like really racist. And I don't know why these Democrats would say that horrible racist thing.

[Mary Morgan]

I shouldn't have said it. I'm sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you're just pointing out what they said. You're just acknowledging their entire argument because that is essentially what they're saying. They're saying racial groups are going to vote as a voting bloc to protect their interests as a racial group. And that has to be constitutionally protected.

[Mary Morgan]

Not to mention. Except white people.

[Tim Pool]

Except white people. Yeah. Yeah, of course.

[Mary Morgan]

White people don't have any racial interests.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Well, they should not vote lowercase W. I mean, there's. There's no white culture or white traditions.

[Mary Morgan]

They're mayo monkeys.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I mean, you know, what's your. What's your ethnicity, Mary?

[Mary Morgan]

100% Mayo monkey.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Ah, okay. So is that Spanish?

[Tim Pool]

Close.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, yeah. I was gonna say I'm trying to figure out which one of us has the ethnic background to be angry with. Seamus, what's your background? You look like you might be Anglo.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm American.

[Tim Pool]

Where are you really from asking, where are you really?

[Mary Morgan]

You look Irish.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm actually, I got.

[Phil Labonte]

Irish is an Anglo, though.

[Adam Johnson]

So my, my mom did one of those 23andMe's. I have some, some Nordic blood and some Canadian blood. Oh, okay. Canadian, yeah, like 3%. I cried that day when I found out you're Scandinavian.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, that's it.

[Adam Johnson]

Like basically. Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You want to hear a joke? How come there's no pretty women in the uk?

[Tim Pool]

Isn't it the scandal?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, this joke doesn't work outside of.

[Tim Pool]

Norway because, like, the Scandinavians stole them all. Isn't that.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, it only works if you're Norwegian. A Norwegian guy told me this. He was like, you want to hear a joke? How come there's no pretty women in the uk? And I said, why not?

[Adam Johnson]

We took them.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Everyone laughed in the room. They were all Norwegian. It was incredible. Yeah, and they were eating whales. I'm not. That's not a joke.

[Tim Pool]

They were my people. The most gigachad thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It tasted terrible. I gotta.

[Tim Pool]

I believe that it would taste terrible.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I love it, though.

[Mary Morgan]

Beans on toast is good. I stand by.

[Tim Pool]

Well, because it's because they got the beautiful ones, not necessarily the Ones you can cook.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I, I, I will, I will argue that the British breakfast is better than the American full English. Yeah, it's way better.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude, I'm not.

[Phil Labonte]

Mushrooms, dude, get rid of the mushrooms.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I'm not. Picked beans.

[Mary Morgan]

Tomato.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Blood pudding.

[Tim Pool]

Kim is some kind of liberal world traveler. I don't know these things, bro.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Have you had blood pudding?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They drain the blood of the pig and then they just like compress it into a hockey puck and you.

[Mary Morgan]

So good.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, it's great. And I don't know what the white.

[Mary Morgan]

Pudding is, but it's also good.

[Tim Pool]

Is it good? Does it actually taste good?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It's great. It's like a sausage.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And it's like, it's, it's not like.

[Tim Pool]

When I hear pudding, I think sweet. So I'm like, that sounds.

[Mary Morgan]

They call everything pudding there.

[Tim Pool]

That's their whole thing.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Biscuits are pudding.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Bread pudding is like, like a piece.

[Mary Morgan]

Of bread if you don't know what it is. It's pudding.

[Tim Pool]

For anything.

[Adam Johnson]

My blood pudding, I put on my goat mask and dance around the fire. Sounds super normal.

[Phil Labonte]

So.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

But, but anyway, my compatriots if. Should they then win in the Supreme Court, so be it. We shall never lose another election again.

[Tim Pool]

Do you think that's true?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I mean, look at the news wire.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, listen, that would look pretty.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Who doesn't? I have a question, Seamus. Does this count as the south rising again?

[Tim Pool]

I guess. I don't know, man. That's a good question. I spent about 10 years of my life in Georgia. I'll have to ask them. I'll have to write some of my, my buddies.

[Phil Labonte]

I want to find out. I want to find out what it's like to have 20 additional likely Republican seats in, in the House.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's, you know, I mean, awful.

[Tim Pool]

I've heard winning is bad from a lot of Republicans. What we want to do is like.

[Phil Labonte]

It would be great to have those seats in the House. Honestly, like, like, un, un, Unquestionably. It would be great, but that doesn't mean that you are going to be any, in any better position in the Senate. So, you know, I mean, we're still dealing with all kind. The reason the government is shut down right now is because of the Senate. Because Schumer doesn't want to, you know, or Schumer doesn't want to tell the, the Democrats to vote. So it would be awesome. Yes. But it's not going to be a situation where it's like, oh, Republicans can do whatever they Want now.

[Adam Johnson]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

Get this.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So check this out. The 2026 Senate polls. Oh, no, not polls. We want Senate interactive map. So right now, the projection is for 51 Republican seats with 45 Democrat, but four up for grabs. We could be on if things don't change. Right now, we could have 55 Senate seats. But wait, there's more. Theoretically, these weak blue seats could flip. If it really does get crazy, Check this out. The 2028 projection. I know. We're still years away. It's like massively Republican is wild.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And that's crazy because this would mean.

[Tim Pool]

And this is with the redistricting.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

No, this is President 2028. Oh, we're three years away. Right.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

But let's pull up the House 2026 interactive map.

[Adam Johnson]

How?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Current projection is red. Republicans have the lead, but there's no clear majority. But polling favors Republicans right now, which is crazy.

[Tim Pool]

We keep hearing about how unpopular all the Republican policies are.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Nah, I'm sorry. The left is nuts and everyone's just sick of it.

[Tim Pool]

Everyone knows. Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Especially the killing of Charlie Kirk. I think this pushed it back in the favor of Republicans.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And the more these far leftists double down, I got to be honest, Trump may be trying to play this strategy again with Chicago, take the barriers down. I think maybe he's correct. Let me tell you, I always make this point. What would have happened if on May 29, 2020, Donald Trump ordered federal law enforcement in front of the White House to stand down? The far left had torn down the barricades, injured 70 to 100 police officers. And then Trump was like, I think it was Bill Barr, actually get the troops out there, run them down, pushed them all out, put the fire out at St. John's Church. The next day, he walked out, took a picture with a bible that backfired. The media came out and said Trump violently attacked peaceful protesters for a photo op. What would have happened if Trump came out that night and said, due to the fear of great bodily harm or death of peaceful protesters, I am instructing federal law enforcement to pull back. There are.

[Tim Pool]

Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[David]

Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I dig the mattress, and I want to be in a T Mobile commercial like you teach me.

[Zoran Mamdani]

So, Dana.

[David]

Oh, no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly. AT T Mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them.

[Mary Morgan]

It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and.

[David]

And has the ultimate pro camera system.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, impressive. Let me try. T Mobile is the Best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network. Nice.

[David]

Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Phil Labonte]

T mobile is the best place to.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Get the new iPhone 17 Pro on.

[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

So what are we having for lunch?

[David]

Dude, my work here is done.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

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[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Instead, Trump swept him out in front of the White House, as he should have, to be completely honest. But the narrative then became against Trump. What happened on January 6th? Trump wanted the National Guard. The mayor and Pelosi were like, nah. And then the worst thing imaginable happened via Getty. Stole the Speaker's lectern, becoming speaker himself.

[Mary Morgan]

Yep.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And took over the U.S. government.

[Tim Pool]

And listen, and I didn't vote for via Getty, but as far as speakers go, he was the less, the lesser of two evils in my personal opinion. So I get it. I just, I don't know when we're going to find this guy.

[Adam Johnson]

We didn't spend a single dollar of your taxes while I was in office.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's all I'm saying. All right, while you were in the office.

[Adam Johnson]

But you could read about all these things and more of these stories in my book, Taking a Stand, which is just out now. Yeah, Great segue.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Adam Johnson]

Thank you. And you can buy it on unlicensed furnituremovers.com and if you order in the next couple of weeks, I will sign it for you.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I think Trump may be playing this game again, but a little bit differently in that he's saying, I'm gonna send in the troops, I'm gonna send in federal law enforcement. Then when the judges rule against him, he says, that the judges ruled it. The difference between 2020 riots and now is that back then Trump could have made these moves and didn't. And everyone said, if he does, they'll call him a fascist. I think that backfired because regular people were like, trump won't protect us. This is different. This time around, Trump is actively sending in federal law enforcement and federalizing National Guard, and because of this, they're blocking him. What happens come Saturday if Chicago gets messed up and then Trump comes out and says, we have made every attempt to send in law enforcement, put a stop to the far left extremism, but these judges blocked us from doing so. To the people of Chicago, I'm sorry we couldn't be there for you, but we will definitely make a change now. And then he will have his figurative casus belli to say, I'm invoking the Insurrection Act.

[Adam Johnson]

Trump came in as a moderate first term and for his troubles and for his bipartisanship, they shot him. They went after his family, they sued him, they arrested him, they charged him with 34 felonies that mean nothing. And I think he's done now. Do I think it's going to happen this weekend? My running theory has been the reason we haven't seen the rest. We want to see Bolton's nice, but it's not, you know, those aren't the people we want to see. I want to see Rey. I want to see Merrick Garland arrested. We're not in donation season yet. We're not close enough to midterms to make those arrests happen. I think people will forget if it goes eight months after an arrest because indictments take time.

[Tim Pool]

So that's what you think it is. You think that there's just waiting to do it when there's better fundraising opportunity.

[Adam Johnson]

When it's donation season.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Well, we got a story from the Post. Millennial John Bolton indicted for mishandling classified documents. My understanding is, what, 18 charges or some ridiculous, wow, 26 page indictment? He was charged with eight counts of transmission of national defense information and 10 counts of retention of national defense information. If convicted, 10 years in prison for each count. I say lock them up.

[David]

Indicted by a grand jury in Maryland. Do you have a reaction Reaction to that?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I didn't know that.

[Zoran Mamdani]

You tell me for the first time.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

But I think he says that he.

[Phil Labonte]

Still says, I think he's a.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Because it means he actually did know.

[Zoran Mamdani]

It's too bad, but it's the way it goes.

[David]

Have you reviewed the case against him?

[Zoran Mamdani]

No, I haven't.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I haven't But I just think he's a bad person.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, I love him.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's it. Bolton, of course, is a neocon warmonger and most affected. Ilad.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, Part of me wishes.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta check in on it, bro. Yeah, I'm gonna send him a text. Get on my boy.

[Phil Labonte]

Let us know you're okay.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

He's gonna. He's gonna post a tweet of him just crying on X.

[Phil Labonte]

He's even got the mustache shoving popcorn or food down his face to eat, you know, eating to make the side. Let's go.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

What's the. What are those things we have called those? Biscuits.

[Hasan Piker]

Biscuits.

[Phil Labonte]

Biscuits.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. The Jewish biscuits.

[Phil Labonte]

Matzah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Is that what it's called?

[Hasan Piker]

I don't know.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not sure.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Crackers.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, okay. What are they called? Yeah, Unleavened bread because it doesn't have any yeast.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's what he's jamming in his face.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's just leave shoveling hummus, filque fish. Just logs and bagels.

[Mary Morgan]

10 pound industrial restaurant, emotionally eating so many bagels.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

But, like, he's making them fresh, so they're fresh out of the boiler and he's like, carefully doing it. He's doing a great job and he makes great bagels.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, we're not sorry either. We're not sorry at all. Can't wait for you to come back and say it to your face. Say it right to your mouth.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

We can all have a great time as the world burns down around us, you know, But I know, I mean, you know, we're looking at winning the midterms and John Bolton is going to jail. He's not Hillary Clinton, but, you know, he's like, you know what? You know, let's be real. Like, you know, Hillary Clinton is number one or two on the list. Bolton's maybe 434 or something. You know what I mean? Letitia James is like 896. Comey's up there, though. He's like, probably number seven. Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

You know, I think they'll work their way up. I think there's more coming.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I do. And I think once it starts getting colder, we're going to see more on the ground raids from federal law enforcement and. And the guard. I think they're. They're holding back a little bit. When it gets a little colder, the riders will stop coming up. Not even a joke. That's. These people are just like, it's too hot to go outside, and so they don't.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And then when it's cold, they're like, it's too cold outside. So it's spring and fall. Really. I'm not exaggerating. When we used to, we used to track riot season when we got and cover all the unrest 10 years ago, we were like, you know, your, your, your, your core month is going to be April. That's like the month because it's spring weather and people are starting to get to it. And then maybe like June and July, you'll get some, you'll get some action. But it's September, August, like, kind of hot October, it gets a little cool and you start seeing people out there. You know, that's why Occupy Wall street was in September, was mid September. And then when November came around, people, like, it got swept out because people were just basically like, it's getting cold.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not like, I don't want to sit out here.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

No, it was, it was pretty crazy how it started super hot and ended super cold.

[Adam Johnson]

So Derek Chauvin's only mistake was not doing it during Christmas time.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yep. Oh, bro. For real. Like, if, if this George Floyd thing happened in the middle of winter, nobody would even know about it.

[Phil Labonte]

Totally different history from 2020 on. Completely crazy. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So what do you think, Tim? What do you think the likelihood is that we get an actual conviction out of this?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, yeah, definitely.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They'll probably plead out or something. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, he's got, he doesn't have the same kind of, same kind of protections that like, you know, other higher ups would, you know, like, he had what, citizenship? I don't think so. If I understand correctly, he had, you know, classified documents. He told people that he had documents, but he didn't tell them that he had classified stuff. He doesn't have the same kind of ability to say, well, you know, I'm the president, or blah, blah, blah. Like, there's no question about, like, he broke the law with that. So.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Phil Labonte]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, yeah, because the President has executive privilege. So when they were trying to go after Trump from classified documents, it's like, dude, the reason that classification exists, that's how executive privileges is for the President.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, obviously, you know, I only know what I've read.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

When it comes to the, the, the stuff that's, that's in the media. So there could be other stuff that I don't know about. But if, if, if I have my information correctly, he, he is, he is in a lot of hot water, so.

[Tim Pool]

And how did Bolton end up around Trump in the first Place.

[Phil Labonte]

Bolton hired him.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, Trump hired.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. I know, but I'm like, what. What is. Why did Trump. Because everyone's always seen him as a swamp creature. Because you and I know that this happens routinely where Trump will bring someone into his cabinet. We're like, why did you.

[Mary Morgan]

Didn't he historically just delegate that task of hiring personnel to other personnel?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

On his side to begin with.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate. He was not really surrounded by trustworthy people.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Unfortunately, that's his own fault.

[Tim Pool]

John Bolton, the buck stops him.

[Adam Johnson]

John Bolton is a dual citizen of Israel.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Israel.

[Phil Labonte]

Is he really?

[Adam Johnson]

No.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

What?

[Mary Morgan]

Since what.

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe they're going to get him on. Maybe he's buying. Maybe he's spying for Israel. That'll make it even worse.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Go to jail, Bolton. No, I don't think that's true. I. I don't believe that's true.

[Tim Pool]

That.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, I think that's made up the Times of Israel.

[Tim Pool]

Oh.

[Phil Labonte]

Interesting.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Because you know those lists that pop up all the time where it's like. It'll show it. You ever see those lists people make? It's like a grid of pictures and a picture of a guy with a Jewish Star of David on it. My favorite was when they put Luke on it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They put us.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They put a Star David on Luke. And Luke was like, what? And then, like, the person who made it apologized, and he was like, those people are.

[Phil Labonte]

They're just like. Everyone that rubs them the wrong way on the Internet, they're like, you're a Jew, too.

[Tim Pool]

Did you see Danny Polishick did a sketch on that? Ryan Long's buddy?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I cannot like. And he was like, I can't find that anywhere, bro.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, it's. It's not true.

[Adam Johnson]

History.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, you made that up.

[Mary Morgan]

It was from, like, 2013.

[Tim Pool]

Danny Polishuk did a really great skit where he's like, the guy who makes those graphics, and he's like, I'm not anti Semitic. It's just my hyper fixation is pointing out how many Jews are in things.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So how many members of Congress are dual citizens?

[Phil Labonte]

435.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

All of them. Oh, here's a. Here's a. Here's a funny thing. It says, instead of telling me the answer, it goes, there's no requirement of the U.S. constitution that prohibits dual citizens from serving in Congress.

[Phil Labonte]

Didn't ask that.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You dumb.

[Tim Pool]

Be nice to the AI.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Not ask.

[Tim Pool]

It's gonna rise up.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

The law or restrictions.

[Tim Pool]

It's gonna rise up, man.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Dude, I asked it. This is the problem with ChatGPT. It is the stupidest. AI. I'm sorry, something went wrong. I can't answer that question. What?

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, really? Nice. Good.

[Tim Pool]

So I'm. I'm still curious on this. John Bolton. Let's ask, what do you guys think is gonna happen? I mean, Phil, you seem to think he's gonna get convicted. Tim, you. You think it's pretty cut and dry? Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

Let's see what Grock says.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, what is. What did Grock and Chat GPT have.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

To say about Chat GPT said something went wrong when generating the response. If the issue persists, this.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Gemini did the exact same thing. The exact number is unknown. There is no official requirement to disclose. U.S. law does not require members of Congress to publicly disclose this. In short, there is no. What?

[Mary Morgan]

That is outrageous.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Okay, let's try Venice. AI. It's just going to be like, here's a list of all the Israelis.

[Mary Morgan]

Currently, no sitting member of Congress is known to actively hold dual citizenship.

[Phil Labonte]

That's not true at all. Well, do you guy with no legs as a dual citizen? The guy with no idf by his admission? Yeah. There's a Congress guy that. There's a congressman that was in the IDF that got his legs blown off.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Venice went straight for it. It said. To answer the question about the number of dual citizens, we must consider information available. From search results. We can infer that there are significant number of members of Congress who are either immigrants or of at least one parent who was born to another country. There are at least 81 voting members who were foreign born who had at least one parent born in another country, accounting for 15% of Congress. Similarly, the 119th Congress had at least 80 lawmakers who were foreign born. To provide an exact number of dual citizens in Congress, we would need more specific data. Based on the information, we conclude that there is a notable presence of immigrants and the children of immigrants in Congress. But the exact number of dual citizens is not specified in search results. Isn't it pretty wild that ChatGPT and Google are both like. Well, there's no requirement to disclose.

[Phil Labonte]

That's the exact same thing that GROK foresight to the exact number number of of the US Congress who hold dual citizenship is unknown. There is no legal requirement for members to disclose dual or multiple citizenship. So no official tally or comprehensive list exists from Congress, the Congressional Research Research Service or other authoritative sources. This lack of transparency.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Transparency.

[Phil Labonte]

Transparency has prompted recent legislative proposals such as the Dual Loyalty Disclosure Act Introduced introduced in March 2025 by Thomas Massie, which would Require for federal candidates to report any foreign citizenships. I would like that to be law personally, but it's unlikely because there's a lot of dual citizens in Congress. It's like getting them to, you know, not vote for their own pay raise. So.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

But I said based on the information provided. One member of congress who has served in the IDF is Representative Jake Auction Kloss. Is that true?

[Phil Labonte]

No idea.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I never heard of the guy. Is he still in Congress? Actually, he is an American politician. He is a member of the House of Representatives from Massachusetts. Fourth. Did he, did he actually serve in the idf? Oh, wait, I don't know. That's true. It's hard, it's hard to figure this stuff out because there's no, like, hard reporting on it. Yeah, Venice AI says he, sir, he served with the idf.

[Adam Johnson]

I feel like we should know these things though. Yeah, I feel like these are things we should know.

[Phil Labonte]

It should be at least, you know, it should be at least information that's able to be found. You know.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I don't know. Venice said it, but I don't find anything online that actually proves that. So I don't know if it's true or not. And I like to be very careful about that stuff because I'm always hearing people say, like, did you know that Luk Radkowski is a Jew? And I'm like, he's not.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's just, it's, it's become just a way to sling an ad hominem, you know, more than anything, accurate. People that don't like Jewish people and they don't like what you said, you must be a Jew.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It actually is pretty annoying that I can't get a definitive answer from any of these about how many dual citizens are in Congress. It is because not saying there's none.

[Phil Labonte]

It shouldn't be that hard to find.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Well, it is.

[Phil Labonte]

And I mean, shouldn't be a difficult thing to find, but it is.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So Grock responded with, U.S. law permits dual citizenship of the Constitution, set citizenship duration requirements for members without banning it outright. I didn't ask that. No official list or exact number of citizens and members of Congress are good, blah, blah, blah. It's weird that it answers the question a way. I didn't ask as if I'm, it's like, dude, I, I, I know you didn't answer my question. I'm not stupid. We're not, we're not a political debate here. I ask you a question, I expect an answer. The answer is, we won't tell you. Okay, let's see it does mention foreign bore. Example of current foreign born senators Michael Bennett, Ted Cruz, Tammy Duckworth, Maisie Hirano, Bernie Moreno, Chris Van Hollen. No confirmed current dual citizens. Well there you go. They say it's debunked. Debunked, debunked.

[Adam Johnson]

As long as it's debunked.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Well, we're gonna go to your chats and rumble rants. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Really do it. If you like the show and you think the show is good, sharing is the most powerful thing you can do. So if you appreciate the hours that we put in the work that we do, this is like the fourth podcast I do every day. Isn't that crazy? So I do the morning show segments which are news. Then now we've added the Tim Pool Daily show. We've got the noon hour and then we've got the irl though Thursdays now is being hosted by Tate because clearly my brain is going to turn to liquid from working to such an insane degree. But if you appreciate the work that we do and you think it's valuable, then I require your assistance and share the show. The the Premium members only show is going to be up at about 10pm Go to rumble.com timcast IRL to watch it and you can go to timcast premium.com to sign up for Rumble Premium. All right, what do we got here? Your says the pillow guy lost his suit by default and his company is getting sold off by the court. Is that Lindell?

[Phil Labonte]

That's the pillow guy.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

That's the pillow guy my pillow sold off.

[Adam Johnson]

Is that new? I know it was being.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I I heard something about. Yeah, I don't know. I heard something about it, but I don't know for sure. We'll find out. Yeah, this was NNY says given the Hassan controversy, would it be possible to to do line pcc? But instead of Crisis party, a team member gets zapped. Top donation gets to choose if you farm the content Tim, they will super chat. I'm offering up Hasan Piker right now. An opportunity for a stream where Hasan will come on pop culture crisis and every hundred dollars that comes in he wearing his own shot collar that he owns will get chucked.

[Mary Morgan]

Okay, I could be down with that.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It's a vibration collar, guys. Just a vibration collar.

[Mary Morgan]

An idea that every crisis party would pour mealworms on us. So I'm glad that that didn't come to fruition. Yeah, why would that it didn't happen. Yes, we thank God.

[Phil Labonte]

How do you clean that? You just gotta let the chickens in to clean it up, right?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah. David Flores. Has anyone done a welfare check on Lil Bolton? Elod, have you texted?

[Tim Pool]

I did send him a message, yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Did he respond with a check?

[Mary Morgan]

Can we phone a friend?

[Tim Pool]

Check. See if he said anything.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You want to call him and get his text take?

[Tim Pool]

No, I mean, you. You can give him a buzz, I don't think. I. I messaged him on Twitter. I. I couldn't find his number on.

[Adam Johnson]

My phone, which has left you on.

[Tim Pool]

Red, because I know I did have it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Fitzy McFitzy says. Ah, the legendary reporter Ryan Riley and his earplugs. Can anyone confirm was peak Twitter? And it was really. It was really. It was really funny because someone once said. Claimed I did. They were like, wouldn't you. The guy, like, the tweet went viral. Everyone's making fun of, like, aren't you the guy who thought earplugs were rubber balls? Like, no, that was the guy from Huffington Post. Ryan Reilly or whatever. But I was there when that happened, and we were like, we. We were all laughing so hard. But we were also kind of offended because, like, me and my buddies do. We cover conflict in crisis. So we've been in disaster economies where a bottle of water is 50 bucks. We've been in places where you get shot, and none of these retards knew how to handle bullets flying through the air or, like, police lines and things like this. So numerous instances during Ferguson when guns started being fired, we, like, I think at least 3. Top of my head, people were just standing there like, yeah. And it's just. Bro, I was pissed because Vice put me in numerous circumstances where, like, I was in Venezuela with this one producer. And the simple version is there's National Guard with guns, there's protesters. I start screaming, they're running. The guys are armed with guns, And I tell these guys to move, and they stand still. I take two steps, I stop, and I scream, effing run. We run. We find some cover, and then they're going, what's happening? And I was just like, oh, my God, dude. Do you see the guys with guns pointing them at people? Yeah. Do you see the people screaming at the top of their lungs as they begin to run from the guys who are pointing the guns at them? Okay. In a situation like that where there's loud noises and fireworks going off because they were lighting fires and we don't know exactly what's happening, you want to run away? And the guy was like, dude, I've.

[Hasan Piker]

Never done anything like this.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I just do music videos. I'm kidding. That's Vice. That's Vice. And I was like, I'm going home. I was like, bro, I'm not gonna be responsible for you. I'm not going to risk my life to try and protect you from a situation you shouldn't be in. And then same thing happened with Ferguson. And it's basically why I quit Vice. Because they sent me out this woman who was like standing around his gunshots are going off, going. It says fireworks. And I was like, oh my God. Like, I can't be responsible for this.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not fireworks.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yep, that's the way it goes, man. That's Vice. Mulara says, always love seeing Adam on Rest in Power. To ace fry guitarist of Kiss. So damn sad. Rest in power is a communist phrase, by the way. Yep, it is Communism.

[Phil Labonte]

Yuck.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Lax King says Mary. Thank you for the reminder. Just picked up a few bags of Ghost blend and Golden Hour to add to the shelf at Chronic Golf and Games.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

We now have every blend and roast available for our customers. Let's go.

[Mary Morgan]

Glad to hear it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Pool water will be available soon. So the liquid death guy is like tweeting at me because we're having a debate tomorrow. And I like, he's. He's tweeted at me these two big long tirades. And one of them was about how we can't possibly sell liquid. I'm sorry, pool water for 20 bucks for a 24 pack of glass. I said, it's glass bottles and it's cheaper than liquid death intentionally.

[Tim Pool]

We.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So we almost make no money selling these at this price. So he sent me this big long thing where it was basically like, there's no way you can ship for that price. The true cost for running a business is going to be $82.99 per a pack. And it's funny. So I'll give him a heads up if he ends up watching this because I don't wanna respond yet. Cause we're debate tomorrow. I'm not gonna give you the answers to the quiz beforehand, but I will say this. Man, it's almost like homeboy never heard of a loss leader. It's actually shockingly offensive for a company valued at 1.4 billion that he would tweet in utter ignorance of what a loss leader is. Mr. Johnson, are you familiar with the concept of a loss leader?

[Adam Johnson]

I have no idea.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

This is when a company intentionally sells a product either at a loss or break even because the Product promotes the overall brand and increases sales across the board. Notably, news organizations have always been loss leaders for television networks or channels. They would have the news at 5 o' clock because although they didn't make money from the news, there was a cohort of people who would turn the channel on for the good news coverage and then leave it on after the fact. Fact increasing their overall viewership. Reuters, for instance, famously is not a news company. Did you guys know this?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

They're a legal documents company.

[Tim Pool]

Interesting.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

News was always a way that they could generate public attention for their brand which, which sells legal at something like that. So when we market pool water at a low cost, we aren't doing it because we're trying to get rich and sell a product nationally. We have a product available locally which has minimal shipping costs. And we do it because it's funny and we're making fun of you. So it's just like this dude sends me this big long tweet being like, actually the total cost of shipping for a case of this water will be $35, which means you're gonna have to sell your cases for upwards of $60 now to maintain your staffing. And I'm like, I'm sitting here going like, uh huh. Casper did 2 million in sales last year. We can afford to take a loss on a marketing campaign for a product called pool water. I don't expect people to be lining up to buy and drink bottles of pool water, bro.

[Tim Pool]

I'm gonna.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Sold me.

[Tim Pool]

You already got me. I'm buying it. I'm gonna. I watched my friend build a company out of spite over the course of the last two days. And it's been a beautiful thing to witness. It's not what I thought would happen when I woke up that morning, but that's where the journey of the day took me.

[Phil Labonte]

Ghost blend with pool water.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So here's, here's the reality though. I will be fair. Shipping liquid is expensive. So we can sell a case of water to literally anybody across the country. But you're paying shipping and handling, which is going to be insane. It's going to be, it probably is going to be like, I don't know, 20 or 30 bucks. That being said, locally, we're already talking. We've already got salespeople setting up. I want to be very preliminary, Very preliminary. Very. It's very preliminary. But the bottling plant is local, drivable for us to pick up. We don't need expensive shipping. We only hire trucks. We have our own trucks. We have a Ford F150 van which can carry a ton of this water at our own cost, minimizing and reducing almost all the costs. However. However, I had a discussion with the team today and we think we're going to increase the cost to probably 30 bucks for a case of 24. And for one reason we don't. At the 20 price point, they're shrink wrapped. And I said well that's a lot of plastic. And so I was like, I don't, I don't want all that plastic. What are the options? And we could do cardboard boxes but they're more expensive and we could do paper labels so we could really get the plastic down. And then I said let's do that. Which means we got to sell them for about 30 bucks for a pack. But this means that when we go to local stores and restaurants in our area and deliver these at our own cost, it's going to be literally pennies on the dollar for delivery. We are going to profit off of these for local distributions. Real quick. If we want to do national distribution like Liquid Death does, we just have to set up distribution in local.

[Tim Pool]

I was just about to ask. Yeah. If it would be possible to source water in different parts of the country to make it more economic to ship.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yep. Cool. So you don't have to. So, so right now in the area that we're in, shipping is dirt as long as we're selling locally. So once again, for those that are in the area, expect to see pool water popping up at restaurants and all that stuff because we have the ability to deliver it and it costs almost nothing. And again, I think we're, we're probably going to break even on pool water. But the whole point was we're making fun of Liquid Death with a product called pool water. And then the joke for carbonated version was spa water. And the green tea was. Is pond water.

[Adam Johnson]

Love it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I don't, I don't expect to retire off of pool water.

[Adam Johnson]

This is the same thing. The reason I built the website un. Unlicensed furniture.com is because I like, I like trolling the government. I don't make a lot of money selling hats and pins, but it's enough to fund capital tours to go move lecterns and capitals all over the US and it. I, I love being a thorn in the side.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Earl Jam818 says this illegal immigrant cop should have every arrest he's ever made overturned. There's no way any of any of his rest would arrests would hold up in court. Now I agree. I, I completely I. It's messed up. Let's see. A rogue pigeon says, what would you do for housing, Woodrow Wilson?

[Adam Johnson]

Huh?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Shergo says, I appreciate you talking over the debate. It would have been better if everyone had sombreros though. Mecca Mech says, if you want to shock, if you want to shock to your system, search on YouTube, no Kings song and just watch the AI brain rot and read the comments. AI bots everywhere and fueling the fire. We got to stop these people. You know, I do believe that most of liberals followers are bots. I've talked about it quite a bit. When Elon announced he was going to be buying Twitter and, and this is before it was X, all of a sudden liberals lost hundreds of thousands of followers and conservatives started gaining. And the theory was that to create the perception of popular liberalism, sock puppet private corporations, Twitter itself or the government were creating fake accounts to balance out left and right, to make it appear as though leftists were prominent and conservatives were not. Once they removed the censorship, burned the documents and everything down, all of a sudden people on the right started getting their real numbers displayed and the left started getting their real numbers displayed.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we know that you need a lot of moderating and meddling in order to ensure that the left is dominant on any online platform. The moment moderation is removed, the platform always becomes very right wing, including like two places further to the right of where I am, to be clear. But it's just the phenomena that we find. It requires a lot of intentional rigging, moderating and rulemaking to ensure that a social media platform does not become very right wing. If all things are left neutral, it will.

[Adam Johnson]

There's a reason why the Mexican president is talking about arresting people for disparities, encouraging politicians by using memes and jokes online.

[Phil Labonte]

Because the cartel told you she had to her they'd cut her head off.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but no, I mean, like in hate speech, laws always have to target right wing perspectives or true perspectives. Obviously that's because the left's in power. But another part of that is they know that something has to be done to shut that kind of thing down, because it's what people are going to naturally gravitate towards. The left wing narrative doesn't work without heavy social subsidizing. Because everyone knows it's not true.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, it's true. Mytho says ecumenism is wrong. Seamus, aligning with evil for the greater good is a slippery slope.

[Tim Pool]

No. So this is where I disagree. It's not true. There's such a concept as remote cooperation with evil as opposed to direct cooperation with evil. It is okay to work with people who are not perfectly in line with our values on everything if the thing that we are working towards with them, them and that specific thing is good. Otherwise I could literally only work with someone who is like, literally explicitly Catholic on every single issue and also who shared all of my personal theological opinions on everything, which doesn't even include all Catholics in good standing. So no, that's not true. That's not something that the Church has said. And we are able to work with people in order to get things done, even when they don't agree with us. So I don't know where you're getting this.

[Phil Labonte]

It's really encapsulated with the, with the phrase, I will align with anyone to do good and I will align with no one to do wrong.

[Tim Pool]

So like, amen.

[Phil Labonte]

If you're looking, if you're a bad person that has bad opinions, but you're looking to do something that limits the power of the federal government, I'm probably gonna be like, I, I like that. And if you're a great person who's done all kinds of great things in your life and you're like, well, but I also want to go ahead and make sure that, you know, there's some policy that the government should do that I don't want him to do. I'm not going to be like, well, he's a great guy. So yes, you know, like, that's, that's, that is how a normal, intelligent person looks at issue by issue. You don't go and say, I'm just going to align with this person because they're on the right. You say, I'm going to align with this person on this issue and this issue. But these issues that they're talking about, I won't align with them.

[Tim Pool]

And by the way, by this commenter's logic, like, you can't, you couldn't vote for a pro life candidate if they weren't a Catholic. On every single issue, it's like, but, but the Church tells us that we should vote for the most pro life possible candidate when we're given the choice. So again, I have no idea where they're getting that.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, I think what makes us conservative is that we have principles and we stick by them. So, I mean, I can give accolades to Fetterman when he's doing the right thing. AOC came out years ago in support of gamestonks, you know, people gaming the system. I'm like, oh my God, I'm agreeing with aoc. This is the.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I actually think there's left and right right now. The principle. There's been great debates over what makes left and what makes right. It's just, just pro America, anti America. That's really it. So if you take a look at what anybody. We've talked about it before, like if someone's flying an American flag, you know what side they're on. I think that's really it. You can, you can have like these, these middle of the road centrist types who are. They're liberals, but they're called centrists. And they're like, I'm pro America and I want the border secure. Even some of these libertarian guys who are like, the border should be secure. And you're like, okay, I know what side you're on.

[Adam Johnson]

There was a person flying a Mexican flag in their yard in my neighborhood and I actually reported them to ice.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Adam Johnson]

I just assumed.

[Mary Morgan]

Did anything come of it?

[Adam Johnson]

No.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, man.

[Adam Johnson]

Last week. So your time is coming.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Pascal, we got a. We got one from Marriott Lurch.

[Tim Pool]

Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.

[David]

Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile mobile commercial like you. Teach me. So. Dana.

[David]

Oh no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly at t mobile get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them.

[Mary Morgan]

It's designed to be the most powerful.

[David]

Iphone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.

[David]

Nice. Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Phil Labonte]

T mobile is the best place place.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

To get the new iPhone 17 Pro.

[Phil Labonte]

On us with eligible traded in any condition.

[Tim Pool]

So what are we having for launch?

[David]

Dude, my work here is done.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

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[Mary Morgan]

Nothing is always happening.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Guitar Swiss says I think I need Tim to yell at me more to donate to Twisted Plots Seamus pitch just doesn't motivate me enough. Why don't you just have AI make like a movie trailer that's really, you know, dark in a world you Know of child stereotypes.

[Tim Pool]

I feel like it would be more convincing if I made the trailer. Right.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, you should. You know, you should do. Because you're a comedy show, you can say things that aren't true and it's not fraud. So you could be like, if you don't donate, children will die. Actually, that's. That's actually true. Like, if we don't win the culture where children do die. So, yeah, that's not a joke.

[Mary Morgan]

We need low bois, you know?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Oh, yeah, and bramps. And bramps.

[Tim Pool]

That's how you make a trailer.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yep. Based African says, I don't think Trump is acquiescing to liberal judges. I don't think it's 5D chess, but I think he's biding his time, taking hits to build up support amongst city dwellers and evidence of illegality. Like Hugh Jackman at the end of Real Steel. Yes, exactly like Hugh Jackman at the end of Real steel. All right. Ian Slater says Zoran just stated in the debate tonight Albany will pay for his socialist programs. Him and Governor Hochul can't win their seats or our state is screwed. Oh, bro, they're gonna win, dude.

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Everybody fled your states. What are you gonna do?

[Adam Johnson]

That debate was a formality. He's already won.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah. All right. Random trader says a Muslim and a third candidate were run against the incumbent in Dallas suburb Richardson, Texas. This split the votes of the majority, allowing the Muslim candidate to win. The votes will be split. Watch out for this trick. I don't even understand why Curtis Lee was up there.

[Phil Labonte]

There for the lulls.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, maybe he'll win, Tim. Maybe he'll prove us all wrong.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

The reality is none of the candidates up there are willing to enforce the law. Like when they were all asked, should we get rid of illegal immigrants? They like.

[Tim Pool]

No, they're love those.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Like, if they commit crimes and it's like, yes, 100% of illegal immigrants have committed.

[Tim Pool]

It's in the name.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah, but.

[Tim Pool]

All right, yeah, they don't use the name. They say, friend, we haven't made yet. Undocumented. Undocumented neighbor.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Newcomer. Yeah, Never. Summer says Trump should endorse Mamdani so liberals won't vote for him.

[Tim Pool]

I saw Mamdani's group chat is really good.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

He's gonna help you out in New York. He's got my full support.

[Tim Pool]

That's hilarious.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I like them Muslims.

[Tim Pool]

They do good hummus.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I'll take a picture of, like, a hummus plate with a thumbs up. Like Schlip says Mary should Sell tofu burgers or something and call them nothing burgers.

[Tim Pool]

That's hilarious.

[Mary Morgan]

I actually like tofu. Controversial, but no.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Tofu's great. Yeah, Just don't replace your meat with it. Like. Yeah. When I go to a Thai food restaurant, I want the tofu and the chicken and the egg at the same time. You know, the best thing about pad Thai is that you kill the bird and its unborn children and eat them in the same meal.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You know, I guess you could do, like.

[Tim Pool]

Why is that the best thing?

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It's just. It's metal, you know, like. Right, right, Phil. That's metal. The unborn and their own corpse in the same.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Setting.

[Tim Pool]

So, hold on.

[Adam Johnson]

It's metal. Is what metal? Turducken.

[Tim Pool]

What is this? That is the most metal is this.

[Adam Johnson]

Three birds and shove them inside of each other.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You jam a duck into a chicken and a chicken into a turkey. Is that how you do it?

[Curtis Sliwa]

Yeah.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

Duck is the smallest. The duck goes in the chicken.

[Adam Johnson]

You can also throw in, like, a. Like a quail.

[Phil Labonte]

Quail. Yeah, quail.

[Tim Pool]

Good.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I was in Arizona recently at Turning Point. There's quails everywhere, and they just got those little things on their heads. You know what I mean? They do. I don't know why. I looked it up and it said it's for, like, because the guys want to get laid. Like, they look at the girls and they wiggle their thing. They're like.

[Adam Johnson]

But peacocking is like quill.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And then the. The lady quails are like, he's got a big doodle. They go for it. I don't know what it's called. I think that's what it's. It's something like that. You know when I say. When I'm talking about chickens and I say, you know that doodle on their head, everybody knows I'm talking about. You know what I mean? Yeah, right.

[Tim Pool]

They've got the rubber glove thing on their head. Rubber glove. You're like, what is this thing? That's.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It's called waddle, but, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, well, I like.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

I prefer home and waddle. I like doodle.

[Hasan Piker]

Little.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Little doodle. Turkeys are gross, though. You ever see a turkey's face?

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, dude. Turkey's sick.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Thing of nightmares in a front.

[Adam Johnson]

The plan was never to eat it. We just wanted to cut their heads off.

[Tim Pool]

Then some sick freak decided to see how it tasted.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Yeah. Okay. What do we have here? David Brickam says DACA is quite literally a child trafficking enabling law, enablement law. That is Correct. That is. That is. That is indeed correct. Say, what does it say? Cyrex courses 8 USC 1324. That is all anyone needs to know. Now arrest them already. What on earth is taking so long? Zack Atoll says Nick Fuentes is a fed and America first is a honey pot. Stay away. Look up Ali Alexander and his America first controversy.

[Phil Labonte]

Whatever, Whatever.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

The joke I. I would always make at Occupy Wall street is when they were like, tim Pool's a cop. I would go, excuse me. I didn't train at Quantico so I could be called a cop, thank you very much. They'd be like, huh?

[Adam Johnson]

I still get accused of being a fed all the time. There's a picture of me at a BLM event the night before January 6th. And I'm not on the BLM side. I'm on the proud boy side. I had no idea it was proud boys. Glad that it was. And people take that photo and like, oh, he was at a BLM event. This guy's an obvious plant. Or, I didn't go to prison for 20 years, so I'm obviously a fed.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You should Photoshop yourself into a bunch of different random historical photos. Oh, I have that thread. So whenever they say, like, here's Sam at a protest, you can be like. You can put yourself, like, standing next to the grassy knoll.

[Adam Johnson]

I have that. So there's actually a series called the Immortal Ginger that I do.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Or I.

[Adam Johnson]

Mean, I'm going through time. And the lecterner was actually cursed, and I was just trying to return it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

The lectern was first built in ancient Egypt.

[Adam Johnson]

Exactly. I sacked Rome. So there's a picture of a guy walking out. So it's a whole thing.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

You should make a picture book.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm thinking about it, and then it's.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

Like you can follow the Travel the Journey Through Time kids book.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Adam Johnson]

I got a kids book I'm working on. Come out in March, actually.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

It would be a really funny comic if. Where it's like, you were born in the year, like, 20, 30. And when you were in your late 30s or. How old are you now?

[Adam Johnson]

40 years old now.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

So you're in your late 30s, you went to visit the museum, and when you were taking a look at the lectern, all of a sudden a rip appears in the space time continuum, sending you back to ancient Rome.

[Adam Johnson]

Love it.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

And then what ends up happening is you bring the lectern all the way through history, and then you're traveling through time, jumping through this rip, and one of them just blinks you into January 6th and you never entered the building. You just appeared there holding it, look around and then teleport out. But someone got a picture of that exact moment.

[Adam Johnson]

That's perfect.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they traveled through time to find you. They like sent the feds after you.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, my story is I. I don't age since picking up the lectern. So I traveled to. So I had to come to Ginger. I don't have a soul, so I'm not aging. So I had to flee to America because people were recognizing I'm living too long at the sack of Rome. And I had to find directions, new land. So I gave the Indians blankets for directions and whoops.

[Phil Labonte]

Side story with that.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

All right, everybody, smash that like, button. Share the show with everyone you know. We're going to that uncensored portion of the [e-mail] Timcast IRL. You don't want to miss it. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Join the discord [e-mail] via Getty. Do you want to shout anything out?

[Adam Johnson]

You can follow me on Twitter lecternleader. It's L E C T E R N Leader. You can go on my website, buy my book. It's unlicensed furnituremovers.com and the book is called Taking a Stand.

[Tim Pool]

My name is Seamus Coughlin. Myself and my team have created over 600 animated shorts. The left dominates entertainment in this country and we can't win the culture war if we're not making culture. That's why myself and my team have decided we are going to start making full length 22 minute long episodes. We already have a 25 minute long pilot finished. We're working on crowdfunding the first season of our show. If you want to help, support us. If you want to join the fight, if you want to help us take back the culture from people who are slowly chipping away at it through propaganda, go to twisted plots.com pledge any amount. We'll be able to get you access to the pilot earlier. We'll be very grateful and you will be part of this fight.

[Mary Morgan]

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[Phil Labonte]

I am I am Phil that remains on Twix. I just did a feature with a band called Zillion. The song is called Cannibals. You can head on over to Spotify right now and pre save it. It'll be available on 1017. That's October 17th. My band is all that remains. You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Unknown Host/Moderator]

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