MAGA CIVIL WAR: Elon Says IMPEACH TRUMP, Trump Says CUT Elon Contracts w/ Drew Hernandez

Summary

Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – Episode: "MAGA CIVIL WAR: Elon Says IMPEACH TRUMP, Trump Says CUT Elon Contracts"

Release Date: June 6, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Drew Hernandez, Mary Morgan, Phil Labonte

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1. Introduction to the Feud Between Elon Musk and Donald Trump

At the outset of the episode ([01:15]), Tim Pool introduces the central conflict: Elon Musk has publicly called for the impeachment of Donald Trump, while Trump has retaliated by threatening to terminate contracts with Musk's companies. This escalating feud has captured significant media attention, framing it as a "MAGA Civil War."

Notable Quote:

"MAGA Civil War. Elon Musk has declared war on Donald Trump. He's going for Trump's impeachment."
— Tim Pool [01:15]

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2. Elon Musk's Accusations Involving the Epstein Files

A pivotal moment in the discussion occurs when Elon Musk tweets allegations suggesting that Donald Trump is listed in the Epstein files. Tim Pool analyzes the implications and possible motivations behind Musk's statements.

Notable Quote:

"Elon Musk tweeting, 'Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. This is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day.'"
— Tim Pool [06:58]

Guests weigh in on whether Musk genuinely believes these accusations or if they're intended to provoke Trump. Mary Morgan points out the potential character implications of Musk's statements, while Drew Hernandez suggests that if Musk is lying for political maneuvering, he should face backlash.

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3. Immigration Policy and the "Big Beautiful Bill"

The conversation shifts to the upcoming legislative package referred to as the "Big Beautiful Bill," focusing primarily on immigration enforcement. Phil Labonte expresses support for the bill, highlighting its significant funding for ICE and deportation efforts, while Drew Hernandez emphasizes the importance of enforcing immigration laws to address the national debt.

Notable Quote:

"The Big Beautiful Bill makes immigration harder and costlier by raising fees on asylum applications, humanitarian programs, employment authorization, unaccompanied children, immigration court proceedings, and border visa processing."
— Tim Pool [75:25]

Phil Labonte concurs, stating:

"We need to actually enforce laws against hiring these people. If you knowingly hire people that are here, you could possibly lose your business."
— Phil Labonte [38:41]

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4. Media Narratives and Public Perception

Tim Pool critiques the media's focus on the feud between Musk and Trump, likening it to celebrity gossip overshadowing more substantial issues. He also discusses the challenges faced by the Republican Party in navigating this conflict, suggesting that the feud could undermine the GOP's broader coalition.

Notable Quote:

"The media coverage everywhere is basically just this. You've got Musk fighting with Donald Trump... it's celebrity politics, pop culture all rolled up into one drama."
— Tim Pool [17:00]

Drew Hernandez adds that such personal disputes can distract from policy discussions, potentially weakening the political right's unified stance.

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5. The Epstein Files and Its Implications

Further delving into the Epstein controversy, the panel discusses the credibility and impact of Musk's claims. Mary Morgan emphasizes the potential damage to Trump's character, while Phil Labonte warns against nationalizing companies like SpaceX as suggested by Steve Bannon.

Notable Quote:

"He could be saying that the tag, the name or something is in the files maybe related because Trump was on Epstein's flight logs several times, but there's no indication of wrongdoing."
— Tim Pool [10:54]

The discussion highlights the lack of concrete evidence linking Trump to illicit activities, framing Musk's allegations as a strategic move rather than a statement of fact.

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6. Legislative Challenges and Economic Concerns

Phil Labonte and other guests express concerns over the economic implications of the Big Beautiful Bill, particularly regarding the national debt. They argue that without significant spending cuts, the deficit will continue to grow, potentially leading to a recession.

Notable Quote:

"If this bill doesn't pass, you're going to see a problem in the stock market, in the economy, and you're going to see a recession this year."
— Phil Labonte [67:06]

Tim Pool echoes these sentiments, criticizing Congress for perpetuating the deficit and emphasizing the need for presidential leadership to enact meaningful fiscal reforms.

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7. The Future of the GOP and Coalition Stability

The episode explores the stability of the Republican coalition in light of the ongoing feud between Musk and Trump. Dana Lash highlights the fragile nature of the right-wing coalition, suggesting that internal conflicts could lead to its downfall.

Notable Quote:

"The fragile coalition on the right is at the edge, and the left knows it... Blind loyalty has no place in a free republic."
— Dana Lash (quoted by Tim Pool) [34:46]

The panel debates whether such internal strife will weaken the GOP's position ahead of upcoming elections, with Drew Hernandez expressing skepticism about the possibility of reconciliation between Musk and Trump.

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8. Concluding Thoughts and Broader Implications

In conclusion, Tim Pool reflects on the broader implications of the feud and legislative battles, noting the potential for shifting political landscapes and the role of influential figures like Musk in shaping public discourse. The guests agree that while the immediate drama may captivate audiences, the long-term effects on policy and political alliances remain uncertain.

Notable Quote:

"We are addicted… There's no one thing to cut, you start pulling the obvious small things, realize it did nothing to our monthly expenditures... We're addicted to overspending."
— Tim Pool [27:40]

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Key Takeaways:

• Elon Musk vs. Donald Trump: A high-profile feud centered around impeachment and contract cancellations, with significant media attention.

• Epstein Files Allegations: Musk's claims about Trump being listed in the Epstein files raise questions about motivations and credibility.

• Big Beautiful Bill: A legislative package focused on immigration enforcement, with debates over its economic impact and effectiveness in reducing the national debt.

• Media and Public Perception: The media's focus on personal feuds may overshadow critical policy discussions, potentially impacting political coalitions.

• GOP Coalition Fragility: Internal conflicts within the Republican Party could threaten its unity and effectiveness in upcoming elections.

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Transcript

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[Phil Labonte]

Duh.

[Tim Pool]

We've talked enough about his emerald mine, and then I get a thousand, two thousand responses from people like, Tim, what are you doing? Because the Internet is full of not smart people. But I'm really excited to talk about this, and I guess this breakup that the media predicted and I actually was skeptical on, but I stand corrected. So we're going to talk about that. Plus, we do have a bunch of other stories like, I don't know, some Democrats getting criminally charged, but who cares about that? Elon Musk and Donald Trump are fighting. Oh, boy, we love drama. Right before we get started, we got a great sponsor. It is my pillow. You guys know about MyPillow, right? They got pillows, and you want to go to mypillow.com and use promo code Tim? If anybody claims there's some other promo code to use, they're lying. You just got to use Tim. Okay? They're not lying, but use my promo code anyway. So you guys know our friend Mike Lindell. He has a passion to help everyone get the best sleep they ever got. He didn't stop by simply creating the best pillow. Mike created the best bed sheets ever. They look and feel great, which means an even better night's sleep for me, which is crucial for my busy schedule. You know, I got to be honest, like, sleep has been key, no joke, into, like, improving everything. Mike is offering the best deal on his Giza Dream bed sheets. Any size, any color. Just 49.98. That's right. You can even get queens kings, split kings, and cow kings. Any size in any color. Just 49.98. Order now, because when they're gone, they're gone. And for a limited time, when you. When your order is over 100 bucks, you'll receive 100 in free digital gifts. Call 1-800-925-9096. Use the promo code TIM. Or go to mypillow.com and make sure you use promo code Tim for that amazing offer. 49.98 on the Giza Dream Sheets. Any size and any color. In fact, I'm. I do use a MyPillow every night. Seriously do. And we have, I think, 100 left just downstairs, and we actually give them out because we bought 300 of them to make a pillow pit to jump into it's story. But shout out to my pillow. Thanks for sponsoring the show, Mike. Big fan. You're a good dude. Also check out cast brew.com because it's the best coffee you will ever have. And I'm allowed to say that because what does best really mean? Well, I certainly think it tastes good and we do pretty well thanks to you guys. Check out Appalachian Nights, Ian's Graphene dream. We got coffee pods and our physical locations are. Oh boy, it's ramping up. So I'm really excited for this. Don't forget to smash the like button. Share the show right now. If you're watching and you love drama as much as all of us here, share it with everybody and say, guys, guys, come on. They're going to talk about the fight. Everybody else is. Everyone loves it. Yeah. So I don't know, whatever. Joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more is Drew Hernandez.

[Drew Hernandez]

Good to be back, man. Good to see you.

[Tim Pool]

Who are you? What do you do?

[Drew Hernandez]

What an interesting night to be here. I host my own show, Drew Hernandez Live. You guys can catch it on rumble rumble.com Drew Hernandez. We get spicy over there, but yes sir, right on.

[Tim Pool]

We got Mary hanging out.

[Mary Morgan]

Hello everyone. My name is Mary Morgan and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Tim Cast. I am especially excited to be back here tonight, specifically.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counterrevolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the story from Axios. Musk calls for Trump's impeachment. Oh, man. This feud has such a ridiculous timeline. It didn't just start there, but. But that's where it went. They say Elon Musk unleashed a fresh round of tweets late Thursday afternoon calling for President Trump to be impeached and declaring that SpaceX would begin decommissioning a spacecraft essential to NASA's operation. Trump's threat to cancel billions of dollars in government contract with Musk's companies has ignited a new round of escalation. Okay, there's that and then there's what is this one? Elon Musk tweeting. Time to drop the really big bomb at real. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. This is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day. Djt. Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out. Holy crap. I'll just say to kick things off. This is 101 million views, 259,000 retweets. All of the Democrats are screaming, release the Epstein files. And I'm kind of like, I agree, whatever, but this was a low blow.

[Mary Morgan]

Isn't he kind of indicting his own character, having chosen to work with Trump and then saying, hey, by the way, he's a pedophile? Like that is basically what you're implying. And he's reposting these videos from the 90s where Trump is just, like, standing next to Epstein. You knew about that already. All of us knew that he was on the redacted version of the flight logs already. And nobody thought that that was a confirmation that he's a pedophile.

[Tim Pool]

I think this is why it's a low blow now for a lot of people. I think they'll take it exactly as you did, which is a fair point, I think, analyzing this. Elon Musk is just saying this to get under Trump's skin. He knows it's bs. We know that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files insofar as he flew on that plane several times, but where did he fly to? The question is, is he in the actual evidentiary list? Yeah, stuff like that. But that is the insinuation when he says that's why the files have not been made public. But again, I don't believe for a second that Elon actually thinks Trump did anything wrong. Otherwise he would have said Trump is in the files having done, you know, insert thing. He's doing this because he's trying to damage Trump and piss him off.

[Drew Hernandez]

Well, that's true. That's a. That's a pretty big not only accusation, but if he doesn't honestly believe that, I'm not saying either way, it's like, justified. But if it's true, it's true. And people are going to want to know. But if Elon is truly just lying, like, just to play politics over something like this, I think he should be canceled.

[Mary Morgan]

I think that because he thought that he could just give Trump $300 million and then get whatever he wants. I don't understand how the richest man in the world doesn't understand how money works to the point where he thought he could cut a trillion dollars from discretionary spending. That's not in the military.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

And he knew that that math wasn't mathing from the start. So what is he so mad about?

[Phil Labonte]

He was expecting the Republicans to actually take up the same crusade that he was on. That may have been Naive, but that's what he's upset about. It's. It's not just that.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh, was he planning to pitch this fit all along? He knew that Doge was not.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna speculate as to what he was thinking, because I have no way of knowing. But, I mean, well, maybe I will, but I don't know if I have a.

[Mary Morgan]

It's just sweet because, like, I just felt like his affiliation with the campaign was going to backfire, and I'm just, like, watching it all incinerate.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I don't think that. I think it's a net bad for the country, though, having. Having the issues going on, not having Doge cuts be. You know, not having them actually be part of the bill. The bill. Or at least have more people in Congress speaking openly about having to, you know, make those cuts real and actually address the debt. You know, the $36 trillion is not getting smaller, and we are going to see fewer and fewer people interested in buying our debt. The treasury bills, then, they went on sale last. Very soft sales. They had to lower the price to get or. No, they had to increase the yield. So that way they were more attractive.

[Mary Morgan]

Elon basically wasted his time. He might as well have been an intern at the White House, and he'd spend his time better getting people coffee.

[Tim Pool]

I. I love this, though.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just thinking about it. I'm like, I'm gonna use this in every debate from now on. So it's like, you know, we. We got a culture war debate with some liberal guy, and then if he ever stumps me, I'm gonna go, well, you're in the Epstein files. You know, have a nice day.

[Mary Morgan]

The have a nice day part was way too cheeky.

[Drew Hernandez]

That's a wild lie if that's a lie, I think.

[Tim Pool]

But it's. It's a factual but not truthful thing. It is.

[Mary Morgan]

Where's the community note on this?

[Tim Pool]

There is. I bet it's. I bet it's nuts. It says he only wrote that the name exists. In fact, Trump's name does exist in the Epstein files. Therefore, while his statement may be controversial, it's difficult to say that he lied, right? No, it says real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. Oh. Oh. You see what he did at Real Donald Trump is in the Epson. He could be saying that the tag, the name or something is in the files maybe related, because Trump. Because Trump's account's been around for, you know, what, 2010 or something.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he's early adopter.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then there's evidence shows DJT name and Epstein flight logs. There's no indication of wrongdoing. The next one. What is this Elon Musk? Apart from spending money to get a known Jeffrey Epstein re elected, he want to get Epstein reelected. I think there's a typo in there. An arrow error. As president once posed for a photo with known Epstein associate Ghisain Maxwell. And all these links good that clean your own house. Elon's getting roasted for this. I mean, there are some really dumb people out there. Like, like I was saying, I. I tweeted Elon 2028 and I was funny, I, I was sitting on my couch just like eyes half glazed over, just finished eating some Chipotle and I was scrolling through Twitter like just looking down. And then I looked over at my wife and I started giggling and I typed Elon 2028 and showed it to her. And then she rolled her eyes and I tweeted it. And I've got 2,000 response responses from people like, kid, you can't. He's. He's not from here. I love it.

[Mary Morgan]

That is how they sound. And they don't understand the things you say on Twitter.

[Tim Pool]

What I love too is I love the. That's right. They don't understand what I say when.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, I really felt that when.

[Tim Pool]

He said just that part, it was funny because there's a bunch of people in the replies being like, he's trolling. Calm down. But they don't get it. And so now there's people being like, dude, Tim screwing with you. And I'm just sitting back being like.

[Drew Hernandez]

It'S probably conservatives too. They struggle with humor or sarcasm. I really do. Like, it's almost impossible to get through them.

[Tim Pool]

I gotta be honest. I think every, like most Internet people do. There's. There, there, there. There are two kinds of people on the Internet. Trolls and the trolls. Victims. You know what I mean?

[Mary Morgan]

Is Trump a troll victim?

[Tim Pool]

No, Trump's a troll.

[Mary Morgan]

Which one is the troll and which someone is a victim in both contexts between Trump and Elon, who's winning?

[Tim Pool]

Elon's a master troll. I mean, I don't think he's better than Trump at trolling, but he's a troll.

[Mary Morgan]

And what is his nickname going to be?

[Tim Pool]

Kekius Maximus. He already came up with a demeanor.

[Drew Hernandez]

Like a Trump name.

[Mary Morgan]

Obviously, this is the next step. This is the next logical step in the process.

[Tim Pool]

Muskie.

[Phil Labonte]

I think he's going to say something like something to do with a space brain, Something weird like that. Like, he's a weird guy. Because I think that Musk is a little sensitive when he's called weird because of the touch of autism that he. He allegedly has. So I think he's a little sensitive to that, and I think that that's probably where. Where Donald Trump will go.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, fussy Elon. I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

See, look at, look at, look at this reply from this guy right here, Drew Hernandez. Hey, Elon Musk, I'm curious if what you were saying about Trump being in the Epstein files is true. How long have you known this? Why did you wait until now? Were you planning on just sitting on this forever? Genuine question. Now that you have decided to release blackmail.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah. If he's being absolutely serious about this, let's just assume it's true. I have no idea if it's true. But going with his comment, what has already been said is like, how long have you known this type of information? Why would you be sitting on it?

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Drew Hernandez]

I don't think he thought this through. Because this is not the W you think it is. Because if it is true, you're sitting on information that we would. The entire class would like to know.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he's basically saying that he knew Trump was untoward as a matter of speaking. And as a matter of speaking. And he was like, I'm gonna work with him anyway and try and get stuff from him. It's kind of like, Elon, this was, you know, it's one thing if he says Trump should be impeached and replaced, like, when. So here's where this started. Elon said, this bill is bloat. It's evil. You know, the people who voted for it, you know, what you did. And then he said, we should primary these people. So he's pissed. And I get it. He went into.

[Drew Hernandez]

For a while, though, he's been talking like this for like a couple weeks.

[Tim Pool]

Right. He went to Doge to try and cut all the spending. And then what happens? They do this bill that increases spending, as it always happens. My attitude on this is kind of like. And so you're telling me that Congress is doing exactly what Congress has always done every single time, no matter what. I'm not happy about it. But there's a lot of things in Trump's bill that are really good. Border security, you know, budgets for cbp, stuff like that. There's the AI stuff is bad in it, but I can own suppressors.

[Phil Labonte]

So, yeah, the Hearing Protection act is still in there. There haven't been changes to that. So that's the silver lining. If it does.

[Mary Morgan]

And I just feel vindicated for one second that DOGE is a non happening.

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean?

[Mary Morgan]

Move fast and break things.

[Tim Pool]

USAID is gone.

[Mary Morgan]

Okay, maybe that's like the only happening.

[Drew Hernandez]

There are cuts. There are cuts.

[Phil Labonte]

They've already set a lot of policies into motion that they're, they're just taking the time to flesh out now. Like the things that they started at the Department of Education, they've shrunk that considerably. They got rid of. They got rid of a lot of.

[Mary Morgan]

Wait, what with the Department of Education, they're.

[Phil Labonte]

The job that the Secretary of the Education of Education has is to shrink the department to almost nothing. That was, that was the point of, of appointing her. They did get rid of usaid, so they're not. Look, the government is the, is like one of the biggest organizations in the world. So getting rid of. Even if they get rid of like 2% of the people that work there, if they've managed to get them out and get them out, get them out of their job and get them out of D.C. that's a huge amount of people to, to fire. Like, there's a lot of people that work for the government.

[Tim Pool]

The New York Times has this. Musk suggests Trump is in the so called Epstein files. A source of speculation and conspiracy theories. It's just a picture of Jack Posic. Hey, Jack.

[Drew Hernandez]

With the binder.

[Tim Pool]

With the binder. Oh, man.

[Mary Morgan]

Like, wasn't Bill Clinton on the flight logs too? Yeah, be redacted.

[Tim Pool]

There's a, there's a painting of Bill Clinton in a dress. A Epstein Island. Yeah, it was in the, it was in his house.

[Mary Morgan]

Speaking of Bill Clinton in a dress.

[Drew Hernandez]

Blue dress with red high heels on.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Mary Morgan]

It was Hillary's.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, probably.

[Mary Morgan]

That's how he wishes she dressed.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, he wishes that she was in like look like that in that dress because it was, it was a flattering painting of Bill. Bill Clinton's female.

[Mary Morgan]

I think if anything, this means Trump needs to stop truthing and start tweeting.

[Tim Pool]

He's got to come back.

[Mary Morgan]

So sick of him ghettoizing himself on that stupid app that no one likes and no one has.

[Tim Pool]

Remember, he's on contract now. All right, wait, wait. We got more. We got more. Here we go from cnbc. Trump says Elon Musk went crazy, suggests cutting government contracts for his companies. He lashed out, saying he was crazy. Blah, blah, we get it. Do they have the actual quote? Uh, let's see. The easiest way to Save money in our budget. Billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts. Trump wrote in a truth social post. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. Musk promptly responded, go ahead, make my day. He later upped the ante, writing, in light of the President's statement about cancellation of my government contracts, SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately. I love this. It's what NASA uses to get people to and from the iss. So imagine being one of these astronauts. You're in space, you're in the space station. You just had this big fiasco. People got stuck for months, and you're like, I just hope I can get home. And then you pull up your Twitter on your laptop and Elon's like. Like, I'm shutting it down.

[Phil Labonte]

Trump's gonna be on the phone with Putin being like, yo, can you let us hook the ride the next time you're going up there?

[Tim Pool]

Like, this is great. You know. You know why this is awesome? Because it's like celebrity politics, pop culture all rolled up into one drama. Like, this is. This is what every housewife, suburban housewife, wanted to watch on TV when they were watching, like, the Jersey Housewives or whatever the show was.

[Phil Labonte]

Every villain for them.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Mary Morgan]

They're throwing drinks.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I am. I am. Tomorrow, first thing. Like, okay, so we have the culture war in the morning, but after that, I'm getting in the cybertruck and I'm driving into all the liberal areas because I want them to cheer for me. Yeah, they're going to be cheering for me.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

A lot of them are probably confused, like, who do I.

[Tim Pool]

Who do I.

[Drew Hernandez]

What do I do here?

[Mary Morgan]

Doesn't mean that he's, like, pivoting left. They know that.

[Tim Pool]

It doesn't matter. The left. The left doesn't have policies.

[Mary Morgan]

They see this as a win because they see it as, you know, people on the right eating their own.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no. Yes. But what I mean is Democrats are just anti Trump. They don't have anything.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

So Elon.

[Mary Morgan]

Anti Elon to.

[Tim Pool]

Only.

[Mary Morgan]

If anything, I see these protests and they're holding up more signs against Elon than Trump.

[Tim Pool]

Only because he was pro Trump. Yep. Now that he's anti Trump, he's. He's far left.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because they were just hanging out.

[Mary Morgan]

That's so funny.

[Tim Pool]

And so he was in the Oval.

[Drew Hernandez]

Office on Friday, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, something like that. And he let his kid hang out with Trump. It's like, there's no way Elon Actually thought Trump was doing anything with kids and have his kid around. Here's the conspiracy theory. Elon and Trump knew that once the contract employment thing was over, Elon would need to sever politically. And so again, as the theory goes, they stage a feud on X which costs nobody nothing. So that Elon can basically go, oh, I, I don't like Trump now. And then Tesla can recover and liberals stop boycotting. He was leaving government already because his special government employment was over. Trump is now saying, I kicked him out.

[Mary Morgan]

I would believe that if it weren't for the Epstein.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, me too.

[Tim Pool]

I would believe it would not have.

[Mary Morgan]

Agreed to having that be part of a state.

[Tim Pool]

No, I agree. I don't think the conspiracy is right. I think Elon and Trump are both very similar in that. Yeah, like they're petty. You know, Trump, he makes fun of people and he roasts them. Remember when he roasted Chris Christie?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes. Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

During the primary.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no, Bill, Bill Barr. Bill Bar. I mean, he roast Chris Christie all the time, but the Bill Bar roast, that was the best one. I gotta pull that one up. Trump, Trump's best troll ever.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, to be honest with you, I feel like a lot of the things that Trump says, very rarely does he say things that he isn't capable of taking back and just ignoring that he said. Now, I think that he might have a special people might give him, you know, give him leeway that they wouldn't give to someone else. But the comment that Musk made was like line crossing.

[Tim Pool]

Check this out. For those that don't remember this, it is from one year ago. Former President Trump swiped at his one time Attorney General Bill Barr late Wednesday after Barr said he would support the GOP presidential ticket despite his criticisms. Quote, wow. Former AG Bill Barr, who let a lot of great people down by not investigating voter fraud in our country, has just endorsed me, endorsed me for president, despite the fact that I called him weak, slow moving, lethargic, gutless and lazy. Trump posted on social. Based on the fact that I greatly appreciate his wholehearted endorsement, I am removing the word lethargic from my statement. Thank you, Bill. So considering, like, just look, Elon posts on X all the time about his squabblings with people and Trump posts things like this. That's why I believe it. This is exactly in line with both of their personalities, to be honest. It's in line with my personality, so I enjoy it.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

Has Trump ever faced an autistic person before? Someone like Elon Musk? Because I think if he genuinely feels hurt or whatever's going on with him. He took it zero to a million. Like, yeah, quick.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

And I would expect that from. It's funny, an autistic person like Elon.

[Mary Morgan]

Musk, but it's just funny because, like I said, that Elon would expect things in exchange for his donation. It wasn't, it wasn't a donation. It was transactional. And I feel like a lot of people didn't understand that and they just thought, oh, yeah, Elon is giving 300 million to the Trump campaign, like, just to be nice, you know, because he's based, I guess, as if he had nothing to gain from that. Well, he just lost out on that gamble and he's lashing out as a result that it didn't work out for him. That's why this is happening. So it's backfiring that this affiliation became so close in the first place. And I said that would happen. So I just, I do feel a little bit vindicated.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I don't know that I, I agree with your assessment of why Musk was involved in the first place. Like, I do get the sense that Musk looks at the, the national debt and he sees an existential crisis.

[Mary Morgan]

He got the role in Doge because he gave 300 million to the Trump campaign. That wouldn't have happened otherwise.

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe, but he, he had, he, he. This was his, the, his. The reason he moved away from the Democrats and actually decided to support not only Donald Trump but a bunch of Republicans is because of the debt. Like that. That's the major driver. Like, I mean, yes, he's, he's got, like, he's got interests of his own. That, that would be to Space X or be to Tesla and whatnot. But the real reason that, or at least it seems that the real reason that he got involved, considering what he was doing, was he wanted, wants to see actual shrinking of the debt. You don't have to get rid of the debt. You don't even have to have a plan to get rid of the debt. What he's looking to do is signal to the market that the, that the United States is good for its. Its. Its word. Right. As soon as the, the bond market went soft last week, that was a big signal. So the point of, of him trying to make those cuts was to signal to markets, hey, look, the, the United States is still the, the safest bet.

[Mary Morgan]

In the world that doesn't work by just like cutting funding to like trans transgender surgeries on shrimp.

[Tim Pool]

Like what.

[Mary Morgan]

That's not where the money is spent.

[Phil Labonte]

You're, you're 100% right.

[Tim Pool]

I bet that was a real program, too.

[Mary Morgan]

Sure it was.

[Phil Labonte]

But the point that I'm making is it's not that it was the amount of money being cut. It was that the government could make cuts because historically, if you look at what, at the times that they've ever cut, like we haven't had a balanced budget since the 90s, so we're so in foreign debt and we've been sending signals to other countries that, hey, the money that you spend on T bills, you might not actually make that money back. The government might actually, the federal government might actually be a bad investment. They lowered our credit rating, Honestly, they've lowered our credit rating like two weeks ago from. I don't remember what the, what the highest one to the second highest one was, but it was, it was a big deal. And the bond markets were soft because of it or. Well, I don't remember if the bond market sell off was the day before or not. Either way. But the point is there are a lot of, a lot of things happening in the market that are saying, look, the federal government might not be this big reliable thing that we used to think it was and that, that, that's because we can't actually make any cuts. Not, we can't make big enough cuts. And honestly, if you told the market, hey, look, here's a, here's a spending package where there are actual cuts and the deficit isn't going to actually grow, it's actually going to shrink. That alone would send a message to the market. People would be like, okay, it's safe to buy T bills. The United States is a safe bet nowadays.

[Mary Morgan]

I know one, ICE is not getting anything. Well, what they're going to cut funding to ICE and the border wall, probably.

[Tim Pool]

The big beautiful bill increases the budget for those things.

[Mary Morgan]

But that's the first thing on the cutting room floor.

[Tim Pool]

The bill that Trump wants passed will boost the budget of. You're saying that when it goes, they want to.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah. Cut the, the deficit.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, you mean like if they actually want to bring the deficit down, they've got to stop.

[Mary Morgan]

They're not going to touch anything else.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. This is what people don't realize is that we are addicted. You know, everybody out there who's got a small business knows exactly what this is. When you're trying to figure out where you're spending because you want to bring costs down. And then you go through your line items and it's like plastic cups and plastic forks and then you're realizing it's all little things. There's no one thing to cut. And so you start pulling the obvious small things. Then you realize you've only cut like 0.3% and you're like, this did nothing to our monthly expenditures. That's what happens. Trump gets in there and it's like, how do we cut? And they're like, well, almost all of the money is in is entitlements. Do you want to cut Medicare and Medicaid? And they're like, a little bit, I guess, like, good luck in the midterms.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So they don't. And then it's military. And Trump's like, we want more money for the military. We want more for deportations. Want more border stuff. And they're like, okay, so you're increasing.

[Mary Morgan]

Spending, but it's definitely going to be less for the border and deportations. If anything. Well, if anything is up for.

[Tim Pool]

If anything. Yeah, right. Because. Because Trump has. Congress is broken. They're going to go to Congress and they're like, will you sign the bill? What do I get? What do you want? My district makes teddy bears. We want a bill that provides subsidies for teddy bear fluff. And then they're like, okay, I guess. And that's how you get the weird stuff in these bills. Like, I can't remember what it was, but the last omnibus had something for like orange inspection fees to be subsidized, something. And it's like, that's very specific. Like one county.

[Phil Labonte]

Senator, Rand Paul, was saying that he would vote for it. And so he's, he's actually signaling that he's, he's movable on it. He said, I'd vote for it if we got real spending cuts. But this bill is the largest debt increase in U.S. history. In U.S. history, $5 trillion. That's like giving your 16 year old a credit card, watching them rack up to canned booze and gambling them, raising their limit to 10. It's irresponsible.

[Mary Morgan]

I get Rand Paul not say that he wants spending cuts to the border.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think that specifically. I don't, I'm not aware of him.

[Mary Morgan]

Saying anything about, like, thought I saw that earlier today.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I can't comment on it. I haven't seen it. But, but the point that I'm making is Rand Paul, who's, you know, a fiscal hawk, you know, he, he definitely is like, he's signaling that he's close to a place where he'll vote for it. So this is actually something that's still very much in play.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump to the next story. My friends from at the Democrats, kill the bill and release the Epstein files. Tweets at the Democrats, who then tweeted, what is Trump hiding? Release the Epstein files. Eric Swalwell, release the Epstein files now. I am shocked. I didn't expect Democrats to stand on principle and call for such an important thing like releasing the Epstein files. I wonder what could have happened that would have made them come around and agree, oh, it's anti Trump now. Elon Musk accused, accuses Trump of being in the Epstein files. And Democrats all of a sudden are saying, go for it.

[Mary Morgan]

No, they had a change of heart and they're suddenly against child molestation.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I wouldn't ever believe that for any amount.

[Phil Labonte]

Super. Don't believe that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

Just woke up one day and they were like, wait, diddling kids is wrong. Stop doing that.

[Tim Pool]

That would never happen among the Democratic Party. But I do think it's funny, you know, is this where the Democrats try and find their pivot moment? They're sitting there pulling their hair out, being like, we've spent millions of dollars to try and talk to regular people. What do we do? And now they're like, release the Epstein files. And Chad Prather was like, I agree. And a bunch of conservatives are like.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yes, please do it already.

[Tim Pool]

Could you? So here's my bet. 2028 is going to be some, like, random damn being like, we'll release the Epstein files. The only policy we have.

[Phil Labonte]

That'd be hilarious.

[Tim Pool]

They get some good votes.

[Mary Morgan]

I don't think enough people even care. I said that the first time around. It wasn't something that anyone voted on. And they shouldn't have mentioned it if they didn't have a real plan of following through. So it was a big embarrassment.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, well, the administration has.

[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Drew Hernandez]

CT mobile.com botched it. Bondies botched it. The new FBI is not making it any easier for people to believe that this administration is going to deliver on any of that. And I think Elon knows that. We all know that. And I think that probably went into why Elon said what he said today to get at Trump. It's very petty. I mean, this is, this is a worse breakup than Yay and Kim, Britney, Justin Timberlake. I mean, this is really bad, dude. This is, this is. I'm just interested to see where this goes next because I don't think you can say anything worse than that. And if you notice, Trump did respond. He responded maybe about an hour after Elon posted that and he didn't deny it. Not saying he did it. I'm just saying that's unlike Trump. All Trump said was, Elon should have turned on me earlier.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, I think it's probably PR101. You don't pour gas on the fire.

[Drew Hernandez]

But he's been doing it all day.

[Tim Pool]

But not. So it's Trump been beat, not the Epstein stuff.

[Drew Hernandez]

So did Elon beat Trump today?

[Tim Pool]

No. If Trump came out and said the Epstein thing is a lie, I have nothing to do with Epstein. He's pouring gas in the fire. If he comes out and says, Elon, you're crazy and insults him, that's actually PR101. It's, it's, it's redirect. You don't, don't give them narrative control. I wish conservatives actually knew how to do this with media. They don't. They give media, the corporate press, the narrative control all the time. But Trump's, Trump's. You're not going to be Trump. He's the media guy.

[Mary Morgan]

He needs to log out of Truth Social, log into his X account, quote, tweet Elon and ratio him. That's all you need. Doesn't matter what you say. As Long as you ratio him.

[Tim Pool]

He would too, on his own platform. Yeah, I think he's contractually barred from doing that.

[Mary Morgan]

From ratioing.

[Tim Pool]

From using X.

[Drew Hernandez]

Using X.

[Mary Morgan]

Wait, what?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, because he's. He's invested in truth.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

That's why he uses it.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh, I've seen him tweet since the inauguration.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, there's been a. There's been a few, but I think he's probably got a contract saying, like, you won't principally use other platforms or whatever. And so I'm sure it had something.

[Drew Hernandez]

To do with the election. Yeah, 2024.

[Tim Pool]

But I do. I. I think one tweet is probably fine. We all still say tweet. Everyone says Twitter.

[Drew Hernandez]

I still say it.

[Mary Morgan]

It's still Twitter, right?

[Tim Pool]

Nobody.

[Mary Morgan]

I don't care.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but you're right. Trump should get on right now and just. He should just tweet at Elon Ratio.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, like your mom's hot.

[Tim Pool]

President of the United States tweeting at Elon Musk. Some. Some nonsense. Well, my friends, in response, yay. He's chimed in. He says, bros, please, no. We love you both so much.

[Phil Labonte]

Matt Strickland, reply to him. Hey, Kanye West, Was it the Jews?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no. Jeremy Kaufman has the appropriate response. Finally, a voice of sanity.

[Phil Labonte]

I love Jeremy Kaufman.

[Mary Morgan]

May the debate between them two.

[Tim Pool]

Dana Lash says the fragile coalition on the right is at the edge and the left knows it. They didn't push the right there. The right did it all by itself, taking the bait. The left and its legacy press ID Musk as the linchpin to this coalition. And if they can take down Trump or Musk individually, they will take the alliance and with it, the first domino in the coalition. Blind loyalty has no place in a free republic. People are free to agree and disagree on the merits of the issues this nation was built on, criticizing its lawmakers and airing grievances with policy. The people who don't understand these concepts are as great a threat to this republic as the legacy press and identity politic left they purport to oppose. She says there is an art to disagreeing and remaining united as a coalition. And the right has yet to figure it out. The Krasn one of the Krasnsteam Bros tweeted at me when I. I quote, tweeted Elon. And they said, which side are you on? And all I could think was awe. The poor thing is developmentally disabled.

[Drew Hernandez]

The lollipop twins.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you know, I'm not on anyone's side. Like, why would I take a side in a personal beef between Trump and Elon. Now, if you want to ask me about the big beautiful bill, I've already laid my position out on it that the overspending is bad. However, that is status quo. I want Trump to win. So I shrug at the bad stuff and say I hope Trump can secure his agenda. At least let's take what we can get. I've always been a reformer, but on top of that, it's so dumb where it's like, Elon is the worst. I hate him, and Trump is great, or Trump is bad and Elon is good. And I'm just like, Elon's got really great space technology stuff. I'm really glad what he did on X and bringing back free speech. Donald Trump is one of the best presidents, if not the best of my lifetime. Certainly he makes mistakes, but I'm happy with the job he's doing. So I would just say, all in all, I'm quite content with the work both of them have done already, and I have nothing to do with their personal beef with each other and don't care. Look, other than I enjoy the entertainment factor of it.

[Phil Labonte]

Sure, it's fun, but, like, the option was Kamala Harris. Everybody that's, like, you know, worried about what has or has not been done or what has or hasn't been accomplished, what they're going to accomplish. The option was Kamala Harris. It's a win. It's still a win. There are no more migrant caravans coming towards our country. We're actually deporting people. Yeah, we need to deport more, but it looks like they're actually stepping that up.

[Mary Morgan]

Are they?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. So Stephen Miller went to some of the people at dhs and they were. And he was wigging out on them there. I forget who was reporting it, but he has been real po'd about how many people are not getting deported.

[Tim Pool]

And I've been realizing Steve Miller, I.

[Mary Morgan]

Know gonna happen about it.

[Phil Labonte]

Stephen Miller.

[Tim Pool]

I love his song. Abracadabra.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he. He. I guess he was. He was. I read on X, I don't remember the post, so I don't have it here to verify or anything, but I read on X, there were people at DHS that he went and had a meeting with and he was giving them reading the riot act because they weren't doing enough deportations, which is something that we've talked about here. If you're actually serious about getting rid of millions of people that are here illegally, you absolutely have to have significantly more deportations. And the more deportations you do, the more likely it is that people will self deport. They'll just split, you know. Well, I, You're.

[Mary Morgan]

Told you it wasn't going to happen.

[Drew Hernandez]

That's not going to happen.

[Phil Labonte]

It's happening. It's happening.

[Drew Hernandez]

Self deportations. No, no, no.

[Tim Pool]

I'm saying.

[Mary Morgan]

I told you mass deportations were not any new.

[Drew Hernandez]

Not the self deportations will never get anywhere near where we need to be with deportation.

[Tim Pool]

Self depredations are happening. I don't know if we have the hard numbers, but they are.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, but not. Listen, dude, these third world people that have been brought here, they will live as minimal as possible, dodging this administration, hoping that they get some psycho leftist democrat in the White House and they'll possibly get all amnesty.

[Tim Pool]

That's why we got to pass a bill, right?

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, Got to happen.

[Phil Labonte]

But I mean if you are relying.

[Drew Hernandez]

On self deport deportation.

[Phil Labonte]

I wasn't.

[Drew Hernandez]

Not you. Not you. I'm just saying generally that's not how we're going to take the country back.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm a, I am a holistic deporter. So they, we need to actually enforce laws against hiring these people. If you hire people that are here, if you knowingly hire people that are here illegally, you, you could possibly lose your business, lose your property.

[Mary Morgan]

Honestly, even if you unknowingly hire an illegal, you should get fined at the very least.

[Phil Labonte]

Maybe a fine. Fine.

[Tim Pool]

I agree.

[Phil Labonte]

But I'm talking. That's why I said like lose your business. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If you ever knowingly do it. Jail.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah, I think jail would be right to jail.

[Mary Morgan]

Perfectly unknowingly. It's the same thing as like you know, getting a ticket.

[Phil Labonte]

The point that I'm making is I like there are no options that I think that we should take off the table. Whether it be deporting people that you pick up because they broke the law. Deporting people that you just happened upon because you found out that they were illegals.

[Mary Morgan]

Whatever the reason, those big Disney cruise ships and just like load them up to a resort.

[Tim Pool]

This is. No, that's what I was saying. It's like rent a Costco and then put free citizenship on top of everybody comes in. Then you close doors.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And then we're like, you gotta go.

[Drew Hernandez]

Post up taco trucks. Free tacos.

[Tim Pool]

You'll catch illegals. No, that's not fair. I like tacos.

[Drew Hernandez]

No, you use the tacos to catch the illegals.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but what happens if I walk up to a truck that's free tacos? Just start speaking English.

[Mary Morgan]

You'll be fine. You tie up a taco in some fishing line and pull it over the border.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but, see, but, like, I'm sorry, this is. No, no. This is offensive, okay?

[Mary Morgan]

I'm sorry.

[Tim Pool]

I love tacos, okay? Taco Bell is the best. Everybody agrees. And you. It's not about the people, it's about the food. You are disparaging.

[Drew Hernandez]

Oh, I see what you're saying. So it's an offense that the actual culinary experience. Why would we waste the food on. Well, there's not going to be.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, no, no, no. I'm saying stop making for the tacos, bro. Taco Bell is the best. Come on. I buy Taco Bell here and everybody loses it and it's gone. Like, I could order $300 with a taco Bell and it'll just be vaporized in an hour.

[Phil Labonte]

Taco Bell's the best.

[Mary Morgan]

Super.

[Phil Labonte]

Super food.

[Mary Morgan]

Yes.

[Drew Hernandez]

Depends on who you're trying.

[Tim Pool]

I'm pretty sure it isn't, but let's go to the next story. We've got this on the Post. Millennial Steve Bannon calls for Space X to be nationalized. Elon Musk to be deported.

[Phil Labonte]

That's insane.

[Tim Pool]

This whole day's been insane. Yo, today's been so much fun. I had a great day today. I don't know. This has been amazing. He says, look, if you're going to deport illegal aliens, you've got to deport illegal aliens. But Elon's not an illegal alien.

[Mary Morgan]

President doesn't matter.

[Tim Pool]

Should sign an executive order calling for the Defense to Production act to be called in. SpaceX insisted. Seize SpaceX tonight before midnight. The US government should seize it if a guy's going to sit there and start making quotes. Also, as we. Stuart Stevens talked back in January. I don't know why we haven't had a full investigation. Look, if you're going to deport illegal aliens, you got to deport illegal aliens. The good go with the, you know, the goose and the gander. Did he just say the good go with the goose and the gander?

[Phil Labonte]

And this is everything.

[Tim Pool]

Immigration status. I happen to believe, given the facts that I've been shown, that he's an illegal alien and illegal aliens got to be reported.

[Mary Morgan]

He has a scoop.

[Tim Pool]

Also, this drug use is reported in the New York Times. The drug use in the New York Times. If that's a fact, that ought to be investigated. You can't have a security clearance. Jack Posobic, as you know, Jack, if somebody in your unit had that type of drug, had that type of drugs, and they had a security clearance. What would happen to them, sir? Well, Steve, remember that Hunter Bob Biden pop positive, I believe, for cocaine on his very first weekend in the Navy Reserve. And even at that time, I don't remember if his father.

[Drew Hernandez]

I think his father was still the.

[Tim Pool]

Vice president at the time. He wasn't president yet or audio plan president yet. And Hunter Biden was summarily separated from.

[Drew Hernandez]

The United States, from the United States.

[Tim Pool]

Navy over his very first weekend drilling as a Navy. All right, all right, we get it. So I'm gonna go ahead and say, nah.

[Mary Morgan]

What is this?

[Tim Pool]

I like Steve Bannon. I disagree with him on this one, Elon.

[Mary Morgan]

And drugs and security clearance.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the New York. The New York Times. Yeah. Because SpaceX is doing military stuff. He's got clearance. This company does.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Or people at his company do. And. And his argument is, because the New York Times reported that he was doing drugs or whatever, he should have his clearance revoked.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

But Elon's denied it. He said it's just fake news, and I don't. I don't believe it.

[Mary Morgan]

What was their evidence for that?

[Tim Pool]

I think it was anonymous sources.

[Drew Hernandez]

Anonymous sources?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

Who, like, work for him or something.

[Tim Pool]

For Elon?

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, they're anonymous sources. We have no idea.

[Mary Morgan]

Maybe the New York Times is known for fact checking.

[Tim Pool]

I have anonymous source that says Donald Trump can land a backflip. I, too, can make things up.

[Drew Hernandez]

Maybe Trump is the anonymous source. Maybe he preemptively did this. This is the 10D chess we've all been talking about.

[Tim Pool]

Trump calls the New York Times. You know, Eli is doing a lot of drugs. That coke. That was him.

[Drew Hernandez]

He tried to give it to me, and I said, no, Elon.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't do that.

[Tim Pool]

The funny thing is, like, literally every media outlet anywhere is only talking about this. Yeah, it's like. It's like celebrity gossip news, podcast drama, headline news on big news outlets. Are these, like, the two most important guys in the planet? I don't know, but it's the biggest breakup in Pride Month so far. The biggest what? Biggest breakup so far? There is a funny tweet said, this is the gayest thing that happens in Pride Month.

[Mary Morgan]

Bromance.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, look, I mean, it is pretty lame, but the fact the. These calls for nationalization of one of the biggest companies, you know, in. In the country. You can't. That would. That would send terrible. Again, terrible signals to the market, you know, and right now we just got interest rates under control, or, I'm sorry, inflation under control. Numbers just came out today, and it's like 2.1%, which is just where they want it. So it's in that sweet spot. They're not going to raise interest rates, they're not going to lower interest rates, but they're not going to raise them. So the economy's kind of chilled out. If we can get this tax package across the border, across the line and get that put into law, then you can actually look at doing some real, real cuts to, to a lot of the, the, the stuff, the government, government interventions in the market and stuff. And you can have serious growth that could really take care of the, take care of the deficit. But government is dumb. If you, you, you can't threaten to just nationalize, you know, a company like SpaceX.

[Tim Pool]

You can.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a terrible idea.

[Tim Pool]

I'm saying you can threaten to do it. It's not going to happen.

[Mary Morgan]

This is just ban and like, mouthing off. Trump wouldn't even do that or threaten to do that.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know what.

[Tim Pool]

You'll be the cool. You know, in my mind, because I like both Elon and Trump. I'm just imagining they're both sitting on a couch together, giggling as they both show each other their tweets. Yeah, yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

Kicking their feet in the air, playing.

[Drew Hernandez]

Their brand new Nintendo Switch Twos, and.

[Tim Pool]

Then like, after they're done, Twitter, throw their phones away and then they go to the Play Mario party.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, that does make sense. Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

But do you think this maybe creates a massive security problem for Trump?

[Tim Pool]

Why?

[Drew Hernandez]

Like, when you hear someone like Elon Musk say Donald Trump is on the Epstein files, you don't think there are people out there that are.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that, that, that's right.

[Drew Hernandez]

Weapons right now.

[Tim Pool]

And there are people that are chatting. They think it's 40 chess and that they're actually friends. But I don't. Because you're right, the Epstein thing, that is not something you want someone to accuse you of.

[Drew Hernandez]

That's some serious stuff. That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, I, I could only imagine what Trump's security is thinking about right now at the same time, but maybe that, maybe that's how Bannon sees it.

[Mary Morgan]

I guess there were even, like, Epstein victims. I don't know if they remained anonymous or not, but they said they interacted with Trump and that he actually went out of his way not to make advances at any of the women.

[Tim Pool]

Like that.

[Mary Morgan]

That was something, I think. I guess it wasn't Virginia Guthrie, but I did read sources of Epstein victims saying they had seen Trump interact with Epstein and that, you know, they weren't even like friends, they were more like vague business associates. And he never made any advances to any of these women. He presumed to just be like prostitutes.

[Phil Labonte]

I haven't heard any of the details.

[Mary Morgan]

Of, of his interactions, posted the screenshots of these documents before, which I'll find if I.

[Drew Hernandez]

Well, I mean, Epstein was obviously, you know, multiple foreign intelligence agencies, blackmail operations. You know, I mean, he was Mossad, uk, etc. The guy is by default going to be around a lot of very important people. You know, someone like Donald Trump will be a target to something like that. So I think it will be inevitably obvious that someone like that will be around Donald Trump in the past. But the big question mark is like, well, to what extent? Yeah, I think Roger Stone wrote a book that had extensive research talking about how President Trump, I think, to go to your point, I think actually helped some of the Epstein victims at one point, if I have that right. But, you know, this, this throws a massive monkey wrench in the whole thing. And, and you know, Elon's not a dumb guy. He's not a dumb guy. He knew what this was going to do. And I'm just curious to see where this goes again because they said, Tim, this is a big, big thing to throw at someone.

[Tim Pool]

Does the media now turn around and start entertaining the Epstein stuff because it's anti Trump?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised at all.

[Tim Pool]

They're, they're like, obviously they've already tried doing it to a certain degree, but not headline heavy attack like they would do for Trump. I'm wondering if from this, the Democrats are like, hey, here's our attack vector. Because they've been, I've been talking about this. They've got all these different secret projects. They got a new one I was reading about. I couldn't believe it. They've got Project Sam, Searchlight, Wildflower, and that's another one. The Centrist Coachella they're calling it.

[Drew Hernandez]

And I'm just like, centrist Coachella, like.

[Tim Pool]

The actual Coachella, they're calling it the Centrist Coachella as a reference to a bunch of moderate Democrats coming together to try and talk. Not like they're going to a concert.

[Drew Hernandez]

I was like, what?

[Tim Pool]

They are calling it that.

[Mary Morgan]

I'm sorry, I just found the document I was looking for. I think it actually was a quote from Virginia Guthrie, but this was trending last year. Guthrie.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Giuffre, I think isn't.

[Mary Morgan]

I don't know. Giuffre but it was last July that this was trending. A bunch of Democrats were saying, it's so wild that we have sealed court documents.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry, you're right.

[Mary Morgan]

From the Epstein case. Proving.

[Tim Pool]

Hmm, Real quick. Sorry. You were right. That's her maiden name.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah. Proving. Trump sa little kids. And the only person to acknowledge this was the guy who shot his ear off. That was back in July last year. And then I looked at the document they were talking about, and it has this quote. Donald Trump was a good friend of Jeffrey's. He didn't partake in sex with any of us, but he flirted with me. He laugh and tell Jeffrey, you've got the life. And then another quote says, it's true that he, Trump, didn't partake in any sex with us, but it's not true that he flirted with me. This was misreported. Virginia said, donald Trump never flirted with me. And then she said she never said to Jeffrey, you've got the life. That was a fake quote.

[Tim Pool]

So, anyway. No, I take it back. Her nickname is Roberts. I don't know where Guthrie comes from.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, rest in peace.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's weird. When you search for Virginia Guthrie, Jufrey pops up. But I can't figure out why they're calling her that anyway.

[Mary Morgan]

Mandela effect.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

No, I think it's like when you Google search Virginia Guthrie, the first thing that pops up is her. Wikipedia for giuffre. Yeah, no idea. Anyway, whatever. What are we talking about? Democrats trying to weasel their way back into politics?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah, I mean, this could be a way for them to actually. Or they. If they're smart, they'll try to capitalize on it, you know, I mean, the. They've got nothing else. And if. If they can attach themselves to Musk saying things like, he should be impeached, you know, makes sense for them. But I. Because I don't. They don't have anything else.

[Mary Morgan]

They've been elon.

[Phil Labonte]

Racking up the Ls.

[Mary Morgan]

Is it time for a third party that represents the 80% in the middle?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And then Yang chimed in, yeah, it.

[Tim Pool]

Is the forward party.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah. I think it's time.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's time. I already got made up.

[Tim Pool]

Let's pull it up. Ladies and gentlemen, here we go. From Elon Musk. In the wake of his fight with Trump, Elon Musk says, is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle? To which I said, yes, indeed. However, it's a pipe dream. He's got 3.29 million votes and 81% said yes. But literally everybody does this. Michael Malice has the best response. We just need to vote in the right people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep, yep.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I love how Elon's response is like, we need a new political party. And it's literally been the response from everybody. Always, all the time.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's never gonna happen.

[Phil Labonte]

No, I don't.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude, did you see this meme? It's that interview that Trump did with that. I can't remember that guy's name, but he's like, I have a plan to cut spending. And then he hands the paper to the journalist who looks confused and says, increased spending.

[Mary Morgan]

I feel like, at least on social issues, the Republican Party already represents the middle 80.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I agree.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Agreed. What is he. What is he saying? That Democrats are 10, Republicans are 10, and then everyone else is just confused. Trump won the popular vote. Pretty sure that people know what he is.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not.

[Tim Pool]

And his popularity has been increasing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I'm not sure what Musk is.

[Mary Morgan]

Talking about, but I voted no just to be.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Mary Morgan]

No. We don't need to represent anyone.

[Drew Hernandez]

Did he post that before or after the Epstein comment?

[Phil Labonte]

This was five or six hours ago.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, this was before, wasn't it?

[Drew Hernandez]

It was before. So he was still.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. The Epstein one was re. Was recent, actually. Let me find when he tweeted the. I think the Epstein thing was. Because that was. That was at 2:00.

[Drew Hernandez]

Huh.

[Mary Morgan]

And then last Epstein related post was at 4:43pm Yeah, 3, 3, 10.

[Tim Pool]

He posted Trump is down the Epstein. So it's like an hour later.

[Drew Hernandez]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

And then he retweeted, ian, Miles Chong President versus Elon. Who wins? My money's on Elon. Trump should be impeached and JD Vance should replace him. Well, I'm very interested in your opinion, man from Malaysia. Tell me more about my president and another guy who runs a company in my country.

[Mary Morgan]

Okay. I see that in Miles Chong post, and I see Elon's posts the same way. I also don't see Elon as American.

[Tim Pool]

Well, to be fair, he lives here. He's extremely influential. He literally worked with the President. He helped get USAID gutted and removed, and he launches rocket ships. He also owns X. Yeah, Ferris, he's just not American. He's a naturalized American citizen.

[Mary Morgan]

I just.

[Tim Pool]

He's been here for 40 years or something.

[Mary Morgan]

I don't see him as, culturally speaking, American. I would never refer to him that way.

[Tim Pool]

I see you're Saying he has, like, an accent, right?

[Mary Morgan]

Well, yeah, he does have an accent, but that's not.

[Tim Pool]

Why. Does he have an accent? Is it an accent or is he talking like that? Serge, why don't you have an accent? He says. He says he doesn't know you're both. You guys are from the same place. You know each other, right? He's British.

[Mary Morgan]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Everybody in South Africa knows each other, especially if you're white.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I was like, I just.

[Phil Labonte]

Assume there's only one family down there.

[Mary Morgan]

But all of the. All of the South Africans who are, like, descended from the colonizers or they all hang out.

[Tim Pool]

They got a club.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah. There's a secret Illuminati club. Right.

[Tim Pool]

There's like 12 of them.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I think.

[Drew Hernandez]

I think Elon also said that if it weren't for him, Trump wouldn't have won the election.

[Phil Labonte]

He did.

[Drew Hernandez]

He said that, too, today, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, have y' all followed what's. What's her. What's her. I can't remember her name. Who's that fat lady that's on TV that Trump hates?

[Drew Hernandez]

ROSIE OD Donnell.

[Tim Pool]

Rosie ODonnell. Roseanne Bar. He loves Roseanne. We love Roseanne. Oh, I thought Rosie o' Donnell. She was saying that. That. That Trump stole the election and that, you know, Elon.

[Drew Hernandez]

Because he owns the Internet.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because he owns the Internet. Was controlling.

[Phil Labonte]

He owns the.

[Mary Morgan]

And the Shire.

[Phil Labonte]

I love when people talk about who does and does not own the Internet. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go.

[Phil Labonte]

What is this? Who owns.

[Tim Pool]

Look at, look at. We got it. I got the proof. Rosie O' Donnell suggests Elon Musk stole the 2024 election for Trump. Quote, he owns and runs the Internet.

[Mary Morgan]

No. That's so funny, because the headline about Elon and Ghislaine Maxwell in that photo says Ghislaine Maxwell asked Elon Musk to destroy the Internet.

[Tim Pool]

What? Yeah, I want to find this Rosie o' Donnell clip. X. You know, X is great because if I go and I search for Rosie o' Donnell, I'll find it. Do I have to put the apostrophe in her name?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Tim Pool]

If I Google search it and come.

[Mary Morgan]

Up Ghislaine Maxwell, Elon Musk. If there was a way to delete information about oneself off the Internet at this Vanity Fair party where they met.

[Tim Pool]

Here you go, ladies and gentlemen. From her mouth to your ears. You know, a lot of people did vote for him. Yes. Do you accept their right to do that in their opinion? Often. Well, I respect Their right to do that. I question why the first time in American history a president has won every swing state. Not true. And is all also best friends. And his largest donor was a man who owns and runs the Internet. Also not true. So I would hope that that would be investigated and that we would see whether or not it was an anomaly or something else that happened.

[Mary Morgan]

Funny.

[Tim Pool]

On election night in America, when Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums, who supported her and Donald Trump was not able to do that. So it's curious to. What is wrong with her brain? She's like, kamala Harris was filling up stadiums and Trump could not do that. What I went.

[Mary Morgan]

She moved to Ireland and started breathing in all the bog fumes.

[Tim Pool]

It does.

[Phil Labonte]

He does your brain.

[Tim Pool]

She said, for the first time in American history, a president won all of the swing states. Like, I'd like to introduce you to Ronald Reagan. I think Richard Nixon too, right?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of presidents have won all the swing states. It's crazy that this lady was like a TV personality or whatever.

[Mary Morgan]

Elon broke into.

[Drew Hernandez]

She was in the Flintstones, changed the elections.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I do think, to be fair, you know, like, Mary, what would you do if Donald Trump got up on stage in front of like, 60 million people and said, barry Morgan is a fat pig? Like, how would that affect yourself?

[Mary Morgan]

I would crash out. It'd be worse than this.

[Tim Pool]

Crash out. That's what he did to her, you know, recoverable. You know, he did that to her. Right.

[Drew Hernandez]

She never recovered.

[Tim Pool]

That was funny when she. When Megyn Kelly was like, you've referred to that pig. I would know, Rosie.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh, that happened. I would know that it's not true. So maybe I would be fine.

[Tim Pool]

I'd be so excited.

[Mary Morgan]

If he called you, if. If Trump called you a fat thing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Get a lot of attention.

[Tim Pool]

I. I would. I would. I mean, I'd be showing off to my friends. I'd be like, wow. I mean, I don't want to be like, I like Trump. So I feel kind of bad if he was insulting me, because I don't know why I'd make him angry. But, you know, I wouldn't go the Rosie o' Donnell route, where I'm like, elon owns the Internet and Trump is stealing the election.

[Mary Morgan]

You would have to lean into it and actually get fat.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

Or Taco Bell.

[Tim Pool]

If only. If only Rosie o' Donnell. I don't know what's happened in this country. Maybe people were always this stupid. We just didn't see it because we didn't have the Internet.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Because you didn't have access to everyone's thoughts.

[Tim Pool]

You know, like when she did her TV show, she had like it was pre record recorded, right? It wasn't live. So if she had something stupid, they'd be like, cut. Rosie, don't say that. Roll. You know what I mean?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't even imagine that she did a lot of ad libbing, to be honest with you. I imagine that she kind of learned her lines. But that's just my.

[Tim Pool]

Well, her show was a talk show.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah. Oh, the. Yeah, she had a.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, I just. Was she on the View that she wanted to move away to her ancestral.

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Mary Morgan]

Cancel ct mobile.com homeland of Ireland so that she could detach from the news cycle and not worry about losing her rights to the.

[Phil Labonte]

To the abortions that she could is definitely never going to get pregnant.

[Mary Morgan]

The abortions that she's not getting.

[Tim Pool]

She's gay.

[Drew Hernandez]

Didn't she flee with like her non binary child?

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, something like that.

[Drew Hernandez]

There was something and people were like, did your child consent to leaving or just abduct them?

[Mary Morgan]

Then you're still just as focused on Trump and American politics as you were when you lived here. So what was, I mean, moving?

[Phil Labonte]

She's not gonna be less focused. This is, like, the most important thing going in her life.

[Mary Morgan]

Ireland needs to deport Rosie o' Donnell. But don't bring her back here.

[Tim Pool]

No, they need to give her citizenship.

[Mary Morgan]

Send your center somewhere else.

[Tim Pool]

I don't care where they can keep her.

[Phil Labonte]

No, they got. They've got. The MMA fighter is the president now, isn't he?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. Conor McGregor. Is he running?

[Phil Labonte]

I heard he was gonna.

[Tim Pool]

That'd be. That'd be epic.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think he's actually the president now, but.

[Tim Pool]

Nah, but that'd be cool if you won.

[Mary Morgan]

They have, like, two presidents. There's one who's a president, and there's one who's more like a prime minister.

[Phil Labonte]

Is that because. Because of north and South?

[Tim Pool]

No, no.

[Mary Morgan]

In. In, like, the Republic of Ireland.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay. All right.

[Tim Pool]

But a lot of countries have presidents and prime ministers.

[Mary Morgan]

Have a different name for it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. Northern Ireland is controlled by the Crown. I had a. As a total aside, I had. I got into a. I got into this guy at the poker table because we were talking about when King Charles gave away Canada. Did you guys see that recently? Yeah, like, last week or whatever. And then he was just like, you know that they're independent from the Crown, right? And I was like, the king of Canada is Charles. Is King Charles. And he's like, no, it isn't. Canada is a sovereign nation. And I was like, no, no, it's not. He's like, you want to bet? I'm like, yeah, how much? He's like, $100. And I was like, okay. And then I looked up Canada ca, where the government of Canada says our. We are a constitutional monarchy and our sovereign is King Charles. And he just got mad at me, and he refused.

[Mary Morgan]

He didn't give you 100?

[Tim Pool]

No. He stormed off.

[Mary Morgan]

Damn.

[Tim Pool]

And he was like, they're independent. Yeah. It's not true. And I was like, listen, I'm not like, ian, I'm not going to claim there's a global British Empire running the show for everything just because he is the king of Canada. But it is funny what Canada. What. What the Crown did. They had. They had the Commonwealth nations be independent, but then enact them as the Crown with special constitutional provisions for removing their parliaments and their prime minister, to which they've done several times.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then they say, but no, indeed. I don't know, man. How long you think until Elon and Trump are friends again?

[Phil Labonte]

I. I'm question. Like, I question whether that's actually gonna happen, because I Think that the, the Donald Trump is on Epstein list. I think that was the one that was over the line.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

That's hard to come back from.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Donald Trump didn't say anything that I don't see Donald Trump, you know, Donald Trump didn't say anything that I wouldn't expect Donald Trump to be able to turn over tomorrow. You know what I mean? To just totally be like, I don't know what you're talking about. That never happened. I love Elon. You know, there was nothing that, that Trump said that makes me think that Musk is like taking it personally throughout that Barb. And I do believe that he's actually serious about, you know, starting to decommission the, the Dragon capsules and stuff like.

[Drew Hernandez]

That or what if, you know, Elon was given some disinfo. Maybe he has been really sitting on this. Maybe he does believe it's real and maybe he does believe he's had blackmail on Trump just waiting to use it. That's possible.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe. Let's jump to this.

[Drew Hernandez]

Gave that to him. Who gave? Who gave? That's what I want to know. Who gave?

[Tim Pool]

It's full of age. There's nothing. Let's, let's, let's jump to the story. We got this from Patrick Casey on X. He says there's a lot of confusion about the big beautiful bill. I'm sure they called the omnibus because branding. What matters most is that it constitutes the biggest single increase in immigration enforcement funding in U.S. history. Here's what we got. $75 billion for ICE. That's crazy. 45 billion for detention, an 800% increase. 10 billion of that will go towards expanding ICE personnel. 10,000 officers, 14.4 billion toward deportation removal. Now in a CBP, which will get $60 billion in the next four years, 46.5 billion will go toward completing the border wall. The Bill also funds CBP facilities hiring 8,000 new personnel. Take a look at that. Cracks down in illegals using Medicaid. The big beautiful bill makes immigration harder and costlier by raising fees on asylum applications, humanitarian programs, employment authorization, unaccompanied children, immigration court proceedings, and border visa processing. There's more immigration stuff in the bill, but that, that does it for the main stuff. Immigration aside, the bill also cracks down on welfare abuse. So I like all of this. I'm a fan. And my view on the big beautiful bill, the omnibus is largely that. Oh, Congress is doing an omnibus again. Oh, it increases the deficit again. Uh huh. Yeah. They're stripping our buying power from us. It's really, really bad. We are not going to fix anything unless we actually succeed in a presidential agenda. Now I like Trump's agenda. Democrats don't have one. If Democrats win, they will just impeach Trump and then nothing happens. So I'm sitting here being like, yes, omnibus bills are bad, I'm totally against them. Yes, the deficit is bad. No, the deficit should not be increased. However, I prefer Trump winning. Curious what you guys think.

[Phil Labonte]

I do prefer the bill to pass. I think that there is a, an incentive in Congress to pass legislation that'll actually enshrine the, the Doge cuts into law. I think that that can happen after the, this bill gets passed and I think that the, if this doesn't pass, you're going to see a problem in the stock market, in the economy and you're going to see a recession this year. So at least two consecutive quarters of down of shrinkage for the economy. So I, I think that, that the, the best move for the country is to pass this and address the other things in, in a separate bill.

[Drew Hernandez]

Well, I think back to the, you know, because this is still in line with the Elon thing is, you know, originally when Trump won the election and then we had President Trump getting ready to take office when they were developing the Cabinet and kind of announcing what Doge was going to look like. Doge was supposed to finish when July 4, 2026. And I think last Friday when they had their Oval Office meeting at the White House, they looked like friends. But at the same time, President Trump did reiterate that, that we do have some Doge cuts, but we're not done with Doge and this is going to still be going on for the next year, year and a half because Doge's work is not done. Now some, somewhere in between, obviously the, the debt ceiling and the overspending, that, that's the argument you're hearing right now that blew up probably over the weekend and then these couple days into the week. But you know, my, my question is, does Elon believe that President Trump cannot or will not deliver with what Doge is planning to do with the, what was it, like $1 or $2 trillion in cuts when it's all said and done? I can't remember. Do you guys remember he was looking for two. Two. Right. So I just, the timing is interesting. I'm questioning the timing of everything because why would you agree to this from the get go and then just kind of come out of nowhere and now Trump's on the Epstein files. Like I don't know, it's just, it's just kind of way out of left field for me. Like, why would Elon Musk agree to Doge. It's going to wrap up by July 4, 2026. But it's, that's not going according to your timeline. But Trump is saying, well, we're going to get there.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I don't know exactly what.

[Tim Pool]

You know what, everyone's bad at everything they do and they have no idea what's going on.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, it's, it's ultimately, I think it's ending up a reflection on, on Trump's.

[Tim Pool]

I got. I gotta tell you guys, Milo has been hitting it out of the park fire today. Yeah, he's been on, well for the past week. Let me, let me actually pull up some of his tweets on both of these issues for which he has excellent insights. So let me just scroll down real quick and grab. Where you, where you at, Milo also, he was supposed to come on. Then he's just doesn't show up.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I text him today. I'm like, hey, are you.

[Tim Pool]

To be fair, to be fair, we didn't book him. He hit us up at the last minute and said, hey, can I come by? We said yes. And then he didn't come by. So I don't make it seem like he, like, he canceled on us. He said he tweeted this. You see the kind of mess it makes when there are two dads?

[Mary Morgan]

Just not natural.

[Tim Pool]

That was a good one.

[Mary Morgan]

It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

[Tim Pool]

And then where's the other one? The other one he had was about the, the big beautiful bill. Here's what he said, and he nailed it. In practical terms, claims about the economy and the federal government are now adjacent to fairy stories and horoscopes. I don't mind other people discussing them or daydreaming about them. I choose not to. He's right. Nobody. This bill, it's this country, Congress, and everything is so just psychotic. It's, it's, it. A train has crashed already. None of this makes any sense or matters. Say whatever you want, but whether or not this is going to increase or decrease, choose your own adventure. Tons of accounts are saying the big beautiful bill actually decreases spending from the government because of the reduction in immigration costs. We're going to increase the budget for ice, which is going to decrease the costs in a greater number by removing illegal immigrants who are straining the system. Therefore, the deficit goes down. And then on the other side, the corporate press and people like Elon are saying, no, the deficit will go up because it will cut like 1.3 trillion, but increase something like 3.7. So it's going to increase the deficit. I don't know. Picture an adventure. If you like Trump, I just. Just say, nah. I choose to believe Trump can do no wrong.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know that I agree that Trump can do no wrong. And I do think that the, The. The philosophically correct move is. Is Musk's move. Right. But the practically correct move is going to be Donald Trump. Because Donald Trump's worried about, you know, the reality on the, on the ground, not, you know, something down the, down the road.

[Tim Pool]

No, Phil, because as you can clearly see, I've proven it. Trump literally never did anything wrong because he is the nexus of morality. This means whether it is good is solely determined by whether Trump does it. When he does it, it is good. Well, that is the political ethos of Muslim logic.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I guarantee you the, the, the people who responded and ratioed the post literally have no idea that I'm being sarcastic. The point is that Trump does things that are wrong. So this bill is, is. Is not far from perfect. But I do see what you're saying there. There is this viral post going around about Elon is being principled and Trump is being practical.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I think practical makes more sense. And principled is revolutionary. Yes, we get it. You want to change the government. It's bad. All these bad things are happening. How are you. How do you plan on doing it? By standing outside waving a sign saying, I will not partake? Sure. That won't do anything, but I'm glad you told us. Now, I know what you think. That and five bucks will get me a cup of coffee. Or we can try and reform the system like Trump is doing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean that, in my opinion, that's the only thing that's going to work, because if you try to. If you don't, if this bill doesn't go through, you're going to raise taxes significantly and you're going to end up with a recession. So that's going to be. And that's just going to be awful for millions of Americans.

[Tim Pool]

So, yeah, I guess my biggest concern on all of this is that tomorrow the drama will be over and we'll be talking about something else less. Less fun and more boring.

[Phil Labonte]

It's Friday, so tomorrow's Friday. Yeah. We can talk about aliens. We could talk about aliens.

[Tim Pool]

Sasquatch.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, we hit Sasquatch. We could probably hit some other cryptids, though. We can hit some. There's a cryptid. Me and Sarah going to a cryptid fair on Saturday.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, what? Really?

[Phil Labonte]

There's really a fair?

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's West Virginia, man.

[Phil Labonte]

It is. So I'll. I'll text her and I'll ask her.

[Tim Pool]

I like talking about Sasquatch because it's clearly not real, but just people are really excited about it all the time. It's a guy in a suit, but, you know, go at it. You know what I mean? It's exciting.

[Mary Morgan]

We interviewed some people on pop culture crisis who made a documentary about Sasquatches. And it was like, they're like Sasquatches. Yeah. Like a family, like a mom. Sasquatch.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it makes perfect sense to me.

[Mary Morgan]

I actually need to find the name of it because I. It slips my. My memory. And I think they deserve a shout out just for the work they did on it. But I was so not sold on it.

[Tim Pool]

There's no such thing as a Sasquatch. Okay. Sasquatch is a story your parents tell you to scare you when you're a kid.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, they're just. They're low res creatures.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

What's it. What's the thing around here called? The Scad Sheep.

[Tim Pool]

Squatch.

[Mary Morgan]

Okay, so they have a movie. They have a movie. Sasquatch and the Missing Man. Oh, that was Tony Merkel. He was on Culture War.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We have the Grafton monster. West Virginia has all the Cryptids.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And I wonder if that has something to do with the shape.

[Mary Morgan]

The Shape of Shadows was the documentary recommend, if you're looking for a laugh.

[Phil Labonte]

But it was good gin back in the days.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You know, you live in the middle of nowhere and you're. You're slamming moonshine. You'll see a lot of things.

[Phil Labonte]

A lot of crazy stuff. Good.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of crazy stuff. This is, this is how we round out our discussion on Elon.

[Phil Labonte]

Elon's a crazy guy. And. And it's crazy stuff happening in dc. They're fighting like gay men. That's what. That's what it seems like.

[Tim Pool]

Scorched. Elon's gonna be. He's gonna tweet. Trump, your stuff is outside. Come get it. Actually, that would be really funny if, like outside of the White House has a big box. It says Elon on it.

[Phil Labonte]

You saw what is.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, we gotta do that.

[Phil Labonte]

You see what his office was? All it was was like a desk and a computer and it was like a small office.

[Tim Pool]

We need to get a cardboard box full of just like, like old teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles T shirts, and then to write Elon on it and film outside the White House, like, there you go. They threw his stuff out. All right. Anyway, I'm done goofing off. We do have some big news, ladies and gentlemen. There's been a massive airstrike by Russia on Kiev. This is the retaliation that Putin had warned about. Russia launches aerial assault on Kiev days after Ukraine's audacious drone attack on bomber fleet. And of course, we have this clip here from Patriot Oasis. I don't know if you can just see the fire.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

People are saying it's one of the most devastating attacks of the war so far. It's the most significant strike that we've seen in the war. That they're. They're ramping things up. And let me just say it. I said it before, I'll say it again. I believe that Ukraine is our. Actually our enemy, not our ally. Not that I think Russia is our ally or anything like that. We're certainly at odds with them. But let me stress, as I often have and will and love to Germany, our ally in NATO has accused the Ukrainian diving instructor, as well as two other Ukrainians of bombing the Nord Stream pipeline that was delivering energy to Germany, our ally. Germany, our ally in NATO was buying natural gas from Russia. So according to their arrest warrant, Ukrainians blew up that pipeline to cut off energy to our ally. What do you call it? What do you like? Let's try this. What would you. Hey, Drew.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

What would you call a country that bombs your energy supply lines? Bombs. Energy supplies to your allies, your enemy, your home? Oh, heavens, me. So that's why I said it before and I'll say it now. Donald Trump ran in this country on ending the war and finding peace. He has been negotiating peace. And Ukraine intentionally withheld information on this drone strike, escalating the war and then afterwards calling for a ceasefire. These people are unscrupulous. So now we have this breaking news. It's just happening right now. Russian ballistic missiles and drones have been launched toward Ukraine from multiple directions. Fires caused by falling debris and drone strikes reported in buildings across Kiev to. How do you say this? Kachenko accused Russia of hitting residential areas of the drone attack, saying a high rise building in the Solomianski district of Kiev was damaged. Kiev's mayor, Vitaly Klitschko also reported fires in the districts of. I'm. I'm sorry. I just. I'm not gonna pronounce that. Holo CE vi Ski. And Darnet's Donetsky. Hey, I tried the attack on the Capitol continues. Stay in shelters. I'm just gonna go and say Trump cut them off 100. Let's get. Let's be done with it.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I think, I think that the fastest way to end the war, that might be the fastest way to end the war. But even if Trump decides that they get no more funding from the US the rest of the of NATO is going to keep.

[Tim Pool]

Sure. Why are we involved?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yeah, I mean, that's fine with me, but I still think that, like, I don't think that the US Ending the support is going to actually get us to where. Where we want to be, which is.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it will get us outside of whatever it is they're doing. I don't give a crap about what's happening in Burma right now. So if Russia and Ukraine want to fight, whatever has nothing to do with us at this point. Ukraine, let me just say again, they are accused. Okay. It's alleged of bombing a pipeline supplying our allies with energy. Why. Why are we helping them?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I kind of feel like the, the previous administration helped them do the actual bombing.

[Tim Pool]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Phil Labonte]

Not that I have any evidence of that, but I, I feel like they were like, yeah, if you go ahead, it's fine.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Well, Trump ran on ending this war, and here we are. Everything's escalated.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. I don't. Trump.

[Drew Hernandez]

No, it's just, I think it definitely, you know, Naito, escalating things potion, poking the Russian bear continually is definitely, you know, a push back on backlash on Trump. And it also makes America look weak because if you have Trump in the White House that literally ran on promises of ending that war.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

Now it's not happening. And so at the same time, you know, I mean, it has domestic implications as well. You know, you have the midterms that are upcoming.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

And the Republican Party has married itself to Donald Trump, and now they're going to come up. Now, this could pop up as something that is a failure on the GOP because Trump represented the GOP and vowed to end this war. It hasn't happened, but I agree with Tim. I'm just, like, really sick of hearing about Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Like, all my money keeps going there. I'm tired of it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Hundreds of billions of dollars, especially in the news. This is one of the issues Mary is most passionate about. She actually knows everything about the conflict. Just ask her any question.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, I'm here to answer anyone's questions. I know you guys aren't really informed on these issues, so.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, how do you.

[Phil Labonte]

How do you feel about the whole thing?

[Mary Morgan]

Honestly?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Do you have a feeling about the whole thing?

[Mary Morgan]

I. I think I do.

[Tim Pool]

See, this is important. This is important. This is where Gen Z is at on the conflict. Married. Tell us where.

[Mary Morgan]

I'm supposed to represent how Gen Z feels about every issue.

[Tim Pool]

Apparently, you're the quintessential.

[Mary Morgan]

So I have to be the voice of my entire generation?

[Tim Pool]

Yes, you are. Tell us, do you support Ukraine? Gen Z?

[Mary Morgan]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Okay. Vindication, I guess. I mean, I gotta. I gotta be honest, considering Russia just bombed the crap out of Kiev, I would have figured at least there'd be something to say about it.

[Mary Morgan]

Retaliation to something that Ukraine did, which I assume the US Signed off on privately.

[Tim Pool]

Well, the reporting is that they kept it a secret. They. From Trump, specifically. Is that so? You.

[Mary Morgan]

Is there evidence that they kept it a secret from. From the Trump administration or the US Is.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, well, so it's. You may be correct in that Biden signed off on it, and then Trump got an office saying, let's have peace at Zelensky was like, I ain't telling him.

[Phil Labonte]

They were planning for more than a year, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, probably.

[Phil Labonte]

So it's possible.

[Mary Morgan]

Crazy work.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, the. Everyone kind of knew that this was coming because of the attack that, that Ukraine just did. And I, you know, look, I. I don't know. I don't know what the best course of action would be. I'm not a military planner or anything. But for Ukraine, like, they kinda are. They're in a position where they kind of have to keep fighting if they're not gonna just, like, surrender, you know, like, and I don't see them surrendering because they don't want to. They want to get back. Like, I've heard what's his name talking about getting back to Crimea, which everyone knows that's not happening. Like, that's not happening at all, you know, Never happen. Yeah, they're not getting. They're not even getting any of the. The existing territory that the Russians are in. Like, that's all gone. But.

[Tim Pool]

But again, like I was saying yesterday, the drone strike by Ukraine shows they've lost the war. It's an insurgent strike. Launching drones inside of Russia does nothing to help them win the war. It's only for causing pain to someone who's occupying your territory. If Ukraine had the resources to actually push on the war front and take back territory, that's where the focus would be. The fact that they did subterfuge inside of Russia, which is. It was a great Operation, don't get me wrong, it's very, very clever, but to be honest, it's kind of minimal. Some people are saying, Tim, you don't understand. Those. Those bombers for the Russians were being used to bomb Ukraine. Oh. So the troops on the ground who are holding the territory that Russia needs to maintain control of Crimea, who are not being moved, were not a target of the Ukrainians? It's not more pressing to stop the men on the ground who are holding your land? No. They launched an insurgent strike covertly. Because this is what you do when you're in the resistance. When an occupying force comes in and you have. You don't have the military strength to actually wage a battle and seize land. You. You try to shock and annoy, you try to cause political strife, hoping that they'll get pissed off. But, you know, I'll put it this way. Just answer me this. How does drone strikes on air, on. On. On bombers inside of Russia change the landscape of the war in Ukraine?

[Phil Labonte]

It doesn't.

[Tim Pool]

It literally doesn't.

[Phil Labonte]

Doesn't at all.

[Tim Pool]

So then what is the tactical warfare purpose of doing it? There's a political purpose. The idea being maybe we can force them to retreat by causing damage inside of their country.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't. I don't even think that that was it. I think they were just trying to signal to Europe that, hey, we're looking to keep fighting. So even if the US doesn't support us anymore, I think that, you know, we're. We're looking to fight so you can keep sending us money and weapons.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe I think it's more of a we lost, but we're going to hurt you anyway.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know if they're ready to say they lost yet.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Russia's held the entire land bridge into Crimea for what, two and a half years now?

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. Yep. But I don't. I don't think Zelinsky's ready to say that. That he lost.

[Drew Hernandez]

Well, because he needs the train to continue, too.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it's not just that. It's. The moment the war ends, he gets voted out.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And he might. He might get killed.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, that's. That is.

[Tim Pool]

Well, there's very few Ukrainians left relative. I mean. Well, what I should say is I think what they had 30 million people and 7 million fled at the start of the war.

[Phil Labonte]

Something crazy like that. They're. They're. They've run out of people to actually fight the war. They're running out of people to actually fight the war. You know, they've got women and they've got old guys, you know, 60 year old dudes.

[Tim Pool]

And are they snatching women off the streets now like they do guys?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know if they're snatching women. I haven't seen that. But I've seen that there are a bunch of women. And look, if your homeland gets invaded, you know, everybody's like, everybody's going to pick up a gun. Like that's the way that it goes. If your actual homeland gets invaded and you want to defend it from the invaders and everybody's going to pick up a gun.

[Tim Pool]

But that's an important question I have for you guys real quick. If the US was invaded by a significant presence, like a serious threat to this country, how many Americans do you think would flee, go to Mexico or go some. Some other country?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Drew Hernandez]

Millions?

[Tim Pool]

Well, of course millions. But like with, with Ukraine, they had something like 29 million people and 7 million fled the country immediately.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a lot.

[Mary Morgan]

Which is a tiny country. So for the US maybe just the people who are.

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Tim Pool]

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[Phil Labonte]

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[Mary Morgan]

Cancel CT mobile.com pretty live close to the borders.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think they'd flee the country, though, because I think the. The country is so difficult to even conceptualize. An invasion that doesn't get stopped by the Rockies or get stopped by the Mississippi or like the. The US Landmass in and of itself is really, really hard to take, like, to think of, like, conquering it, like, from an invasion. Get a beachhead and then go city by city. It's a lot of area to take, and there's a lot of places for people to escape to. So. What?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, so we can't hear you. What did he say?

[Phil Labonte]

He just said, everyone's got guns.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. Hey, let's jump to this next story. We got this one from Vittorio on X. He says, holy ish. It's happening. You can now screen embryos for 900 diseases and traits, including cancer, heart disease, IQ, and Alzheimer's before they're even born. You don't just pick a child. You rank them by longevity, potential. That's right. When you're doing ivf, they can actually genetically scan your baby and tell you the color of the eyes, the color of the hair, whether they're going to be smart. Take a look at this one. Embryo number two has plus four IQ points. This is the beginning of Gattaca, my friends.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Where. This is it. I mean, they're going to start genetically engineering babies.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You've got all of these girl bosses who are. Do you guys. Drew. Do you know about the Facebook sperm bank trend? Women are going on Facebook and creating communities asking for men to bang them and get them pregnant and leave because they're like, look, I'm in my mid-30s. I need to have a baby. I can't wait around for a relationship. Just give me the baby. And so there's. There are dudes that just go around banging all these women because the women, they don't even care about the guy looks like they're just like, I need a baby. I need a baby now. I'm running out of time. This kind of trend is also, in my opinion, going to lead to an increase in ivf, where women just go to a sperm bank or whatever and get a sperm donor and then do ivf, and they're going to choose. There's a great question this dude asks, like, if you have the ability to check for Alzheimer's and other potential diseases, why wouldn't you? And if you do, why wouldn't you do more? This is just the first domino being knocked over, and eventually it's going to be full on Gattaca. I want my kid to have perfect Vision. I want my kid to be six, three, even if it's a girl. I want IQ plus 10, all of that. And that's. That's one. You know what's funny about all this? When everybody was talking about how we were headed towards 1984 or Brave New World or Fahrenheit 451, it was all of them. Yeah, it's every single nightmarish future dystopia that we written about all in one.

[Phil Labonte]

I wonder if there's going to be people that are going to start protesting against, you know, of course, that do that, you know, because there are people that would call it an abomination and stuff.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, the ethical disasters just keep multiplying. For ivf, for surrogacy. Not only talking about the unborn who are discarded or indefinitely frozen, but also the children who are born out of this process are raising ethical concerns about just the psychological effects of knowing this is how you were brought into the world. And this type of stuff was always the logical end of holding people emotionally hostage and saying, why don't you want infertile people to have an infertile married Christian couples to have, kill, have children?

[Tim Pool]

Well, why don't you marry?

[Phil Labonte]

That was always clearly, God said no.

[Mary Morgan]

Those loaded emotional questions were always used to justify this.

[Tim Pool]

And did you see the story of the nurse who couldn't conceive so they did IVF and then she died?

[Mary Morgan]

I did not.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, influencer nurse. I mean, it's really sad story. It's brutal to read about. She died in childbirth. And a lot of the comments were from people saying God gave you an answer and you tried to defy him.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, well.

[Mary Morgan]

The rate of complications for IVF conceived births are incredibly high. And also for surrogates particularly. I mean, they're not paid nearly enough just considering the risk that they're taking to their own lives. Because your body obviously recognizes you have a foreign genetic material inside you if you're first of all gestating from an embryo that was both not your egg and, you know, obviously that not your sperm. So, yeah, more likely to have premature births, birth defects.

[Tim Pool]

No, not anymore. Not when they're doing Gattaca. Well, that's that movie.

[Mary Morgan]

That's just a pitch for investors, really. They don't. I don't know if they fully followed through on the vision here, but they say every parent wants to give their children more than they had for the first time in human history. Nucleus Nucleus Genomics adds a new tool to that commitment.

[Tim Pool]

I'm pretty sure that they can Already test the DNA of a baby for all of these things. And so the only thing here is they're basically saying, if you're doing ivf, we can find that out before you implant.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So, you know, the big problem with this is when they do ivf, they don't just put. Don't they implant like six embryos at once or something like that? But yeah, they just, like, blast a woman with a bunch of embryos, and I hope one works. And then women have, like, triplets.

[Phil Labonte]

Mm.

[Mary Morgan]

They harvest lots of eggs at once.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm saying they implant. They don't just put one embryo in.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah. They use a catheter to insert multiple because they know that not all of them are going to survive. I think that's why twins are more common with ivf, because sometimes multiple survive. And it's just such a misnomer to even call them sperm donors. They're sperm sellers. And a lot of these companies prey on men who are likely candidates because they say, you know, you need the extra money. Right. Especially during the pandemic, they were encouraging men to sell their sperm for extra cash.

[Phil Labonte]

They were doing that, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Why do we all wear the same thing?

[Phil Labonte]

Because it's low effort to look.

[Drew Hernandez]

No, I think it was because it was the death of Elon.

[Phil Labonte]

And we're all.

[Drew Hernandez]

We're all romance.

[Mary Morgan]

We're mourning.

[Drew Hernandez]

We're all mourning. Yeah, we're all mourning.

[Tim Pool]

Drew, have you ever seen the movie Gattaca?

[Drew Hernandez]

I've seen clips, but I haven't watched it in full.

[Tim Pool]

You've never seen it, have you?

[Mary Morgan]

I have.

[Tim Pool]

You have seen it?

[Mary Morgan]

Years ago.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it's like. What is it? Who's. Who's. The main guy's. Ethan Hawke. What's that guy's name? Yeah, and he wants to be a pilot or something, but he's got bad eyes. So, like, you're a second class citizen.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep. Too bad you and your.

[Tim Pool]

What's that other movie they did? Didn't. Isn't there a Disney movie about this?

[Mary Morgan]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

There's like some. Some young adult teen, like young adult dystopian movie where, like, at a certain age you get genetically modified to become pure or something like that? Yeah. What was it?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know. That's not Alita Battle angel, is it?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no.

[Mary Morgan]

Is it like a. A young adult, like, book series?

[Tim Pool]

Disney, Maybe it's like a movie or.

[Mary Morgan]

Something, like Divergent or something.

[Tim Pool]

I bet the chat knows in time. No, that's not. Oh, wait. No, no, that's not. It yeah, that's. That's stupid. Chatgpt. You're stupid. Those are both wrong. You talking about that Logan Paul movie? Is it a Logan Paul movie? That one where, like, they all take that test or whatever? No, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. There's some movie where it's like, maybe it's not out yet. I don't know. Yeah, it's like when you're young, you're, you know, genetically normal and at a certain age they put you through a machine that fixes everything and then you can go live in the wealthy area now. Something like that.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it. I think it is in time. 2000. No, no.

[Tim Pool]

In time is where you have time on your arm and time is currency.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay. Yes. Sorry. Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's a totally different thing.

[Mary Morgan]

That movie sucked.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. It's unfortunate because people were saying it was like, a good idea, but it's a cool concept.

[Mary Morgan]

But it was bad. Yeah, yeah, the movie sucked. I'm just sick of talking about the obvious ethical concerns around IVF and surrogacy and being told that I'm saying children conceived through ivf, like, don't deserve to live. Like, that's just emotional manipulation.

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Mary Morgan]

It's bullshit.

[Phil Labonte]

That's half of the discourse on the Internet nowadays, at least.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, I mean, and I have a bunch of. This was actually back when Trump pre. Pre election was saying he wanted to federally subsidize ivf. I don't know if there was any follow through on that, and I'm glad, but I was saying that was a huge issue for me and people were sending me pictures of like, this is my grandchild conceived via ivf. And you're saying that they're a piece of who doesn't deserve to live. How dare you.

[Tim Pool]

When.

[Mary Morgan]

That was very clearly not what I was saying. And this is. This is just par for the course. If you have any criticism of it whatsoever and then you see the logical conclusion of that. It's just eugenics.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, yes. Well, I mean, all of this stuff is like, there's a. There's a lot of people that are very comfortable with eugenics and, and where the. And I think the future is going to be full of eugenics programs. And like, I think that that's something that. That people are going to want because people, they're going to be like, look, do I want to have my kid, you know, fall behind when I can actually make sure that my kid gets, you know, every advantage out there? You know, that's. That's Something that people are going to be attracted to. Wouldn't you? Don't you think?

[Mary Morgan]

Sure. For all.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah. So the chat got it for us. It's called the Uglies.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, okay.

[Tim Pool]

If each society, everyone undergoes surgery at age 16 to become pretty genetically modified to be beautiful and physically perfect. So it's an upcoming Netflix film. Thank you, Chad.

[Drew Hernandez]

Netflix.

[Tim Pool]

We have the power of 60 some thousand people who can just give us the answers to anything better than, you know what, what do I need AI for? I'm gonna start a. I got it. I'm gonna start a company and I'm gonna claim to be AI, but it's actually just Tim Cast IRL chat and.

[Phil Labonte]

Every answer is the USS Liberty.

[Tim Pool]

To be fair, that's not our chat. That's somebody else's.

[Phil Labonte]

It's someone else's chat.

[Tim Pool]

The Uglies. Whenever you need an answer, you just, you say something wrong on the Internet.

[Phil Labonte]

And someone will be there to tell you.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, what's, what's the joke? It's like, how do you find the right answer on the Internet? Post the wrong one. Yeah, yeah, that's how you do it. That actually, that was a really funny thing. I think this actually happened where some. There was a. On like Quora and stuff you'll like. There will be a bunch of questions that never get answered. Someone will be like, hey, I'm trying to do this thing. How does this work? And then nobody answers. So what you're supposed to do is put the wrong answer and then someone's gonna come and be like, oh yeah, all right, my friends, smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. And I mean literally everybody. When was the last time you called Grandma? You gotta call up right now and say, grandma, are you watching Tim Cast irl? Because you gotta see the show's fantastic. We're talking about Elon Musk and Donald Trump. And sometimes they talk about Donald Trump and Sasquatch, sometimes Sasquatch, maybe UFOs, but usually just political stuff. And if you share the show, it really does help. Don't forget to join our discord [e-mail] if you want to be involved in the community, maybe get a project started. You're looking for connections. This is how you do it. We got tens of thousands of people, they're hanging out and they're saying, bro, I got you, but don't forget to head over to rumble.com timcast irl 10pm uncensored calling shows coming up. It's going to be fun, but for now we are going to grab your rumble rants. All right, Shades Wilder says from the IVF story earlier today, the real horror is that people are playing God with genetic engineering. Pick the perfect baby and kill the rest. The transhumanistic nightmare just gets worse.

[Phil Labonte]

That's exactly what we're just talking about.

[Drew Hernandez]

Correct.

[Tim Pool]

Elder Zimrias says if Trump had already invoked the Insurrection act to take care of the immigrants and judges, nobody would have taken Elon seriously.

[Phil Labonte]

Invoke the Insurrection Acts, take care of the immigrants and the judges. The judges?

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'm saying that it overrides the judges.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

To deal with the problem of judges, you invoke the Insurrection act and just bypass them. Although I do think Trump was was actually planning for that. J Dirt biker says. Per Tim cast tradition, I am writing this rant from the delivery room of the hospital, patiently awaiting the arrival of my first child. Can't wait to meet my baby girl. Hashtag have more babies.

[Drew Hernandez]

Congrats.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. My kid is now moving her head. Great milestone in being a baby.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Well, because for a while, their heads are flopping around all crazy. You know, they can't move them. Now she can. And she's, like, looking at the world. Yeah, Looking at the world, looking at stuff and then complaining about it. Take it after her, dad. Let's go, Annie. P13 says Democrats wouldn't have released files if Trump was in there. Come on. You mean Democrats would have released the files if Trump was in there. I think that's what they mean, Hans1pk says, Mary, does nothing ever happen?

[Mary Morgan]

I guess things happen, but nothing ever changes as a result. That's why I say nothing ever happens.

[Tim Pool]

It's a micro change, you know, Actually, no, I agree with Mary. I completely agree. We were just talking about this before the show. I was in Winchester, and I saw a gaggle of Gen Z women, and they were dressed like emo kids from 2003. And I was like.

[Mary Morgan]

Like the big black cargo pants that they were wearing, I think one of them was belt Jankos. Well, they're not Jankos, but they're made to look like trip pants. The trip pants, probably one of them. The studded belts.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All that stuff. Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

And the chokers and everything.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. And I was just like, why are they dressing the way like, me and my friends used to dress? So we're old. We don't do that anymore.

[Mary Morgan]

It's funny because I feel like that used to signal that you had a certain, like. Like value system or music taste or something like that. Or belong to a subculture or a social circle, but it doesn't signal any of those things anymore. Like, those girls probably listen to Sabrina Carpenter and like, they just dress like that. Because that's what's in on my point.

[Tim Pool]

I keep. I've been saying this. We are not going to see the cultural shift with the next generation the way we've. We've seen it with every previous generation. The reason why music trends changed was because the younger generation was always bigger than the previous generation. If I am a cheeseburger salesman and like, there's a bunch of 20 year olds, there's two times as many 20 year olds as 40 year olds. All of my marketing is gonna be targeting the 20 year olds. So when you're making music, what are you selling? Whatever it is the biggest market share wants. There's no young people anymore, so the biggest market share is still millennials and older Gen Z. So what happens? Hot Topic is still open because millennials still shop there. Spencer's is still open because millennials shop there. Then what happens? Some Gen Z young kid goes to the mall and what do you have to buy? Hot Topic, there's no Gen Z centric store because there's not enough Gen Z or Gen Alpha to buy any of this stuff.

[Mary Morgan]

Have you been in a Hot Topic as of late? It's not really what it used to be. They sell like Funko Pops and yes, I know figurines.

[Tim Pool]

That's always been the case. Yo, it's wild when I go not really selling.

[Mary Morgan]

It's not like band tees. Like, yes, they have them.

[Tim Pool]

It was, it was never like that or the same that you'd go in there. They have a Batman logo. They'd have Nightmare for Nightmare Before Christmas has been in the window of hot topics for 32 years. Still there.

[Mary Morgan]

Oh, they're selling Twilight merch as well.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. Because it's just whatever millennials were into because that's the bigger market share. And so, you know, young people are told what to like and they like it. And I'm not saying this stuff Gen Z or Gen Alpha. It's literally when millennials were young, music was made and young people were told, this is the music you're listening to. And it was put on the radio. It was made to, to target a new demographic. Older people were like, ah, put on the, put on the classic rock station. I want to listen to music that I like. But there were more young people to listen to the new pop songs and to be attracted to new music. Now it's not there anymore. So when you go to the mall, they're just gonna say, who buys the most stuff? Millennials. Not only is Gen. Not only is Gen Z small, but they're broke too. So what happens? The Gen Z that does want to buy stuff, what can they buy? Whatever it is, Millennials.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, that just means that we're stuck with millennials for the rest of our lives.

[Tim Pool]

Which is Millennials is the last. No, no joke. When millennials are 60, you're gonna go to the mall and it's gonna be nightmare before Christmas.

[Mary Morgan]

And millennials have enough money to buy Funko Pops. Just not houses. Yeah, Tickets to the When We Were Young Fest.

[Phil Labonte]

They don't have money for.

[Tim Pool]

I couldn't believe it. Pokemon cards. No, no, no. Beef to Bayside. Because I'm a fan, but I don't really listen to them anymore. But I saw one of their videos where they have like 5 to 10,000 people screaming and cheering at When We Were Young. And I'm just like, damn, Bayside. Bringing in those ticket sales.

[Mary Morgan]

Have you seen what the All American Rejects is up to lately?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Drew Hernandez]

Is all the house party shows there?

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, they're on a house party tour where they're doing a bunch of free shows leading up to a real tour where they're opening for the Jonas Brothers, actually. But there are a bunch of Zoomers going to these house party shows that are free. And they're listening to the All American Rejects for the first time because they didn't, like, grow up listening to that band. It's like the first time they'd heard of the All American Reject Want Sugar Cult because they just want to go to parties. Like, Zoomers are just like, whoa. Like, they're commenting on these tick tocks saying, like, this is like those parties that are like in the movies that I've watched. I want to go to one of those. Looks like people are finally having fun, like, outside.

[Tim Pool]

Yo. The world is. Millennials are like the luckiest generation, I guess in a lot of ways. We had the 90s. It was great. Massive economic expansion, the end of the Cold War, just goofing off, being lazy, getting the Internet. And now they didn't have any kids. So Gen Alpha's cooked. And Gen Z, because Gen Xers weren't having a lot of kids. So Gen Z is a little bit smaller than Millennials. That means that older Gen Z are going to still be like, this is the trend. Older Gen Z did not get new culture the way generations typically do. So they were attracted to Millennial Stuff Creating a massive millennial marketplace. And there's. Millennials are permanent children. They don't have kids. So what. What's gonna. Millennials are gonna enjoy everything forever. Like, the other example I brought up is the Tony Hawk remaster. They tried making Tony Hawk 5, it crashed. So they're like, we'll remake one and two. And millennials were like, oh, anybody remember this gem? Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

You remember this?

[Drew Hernandez]

We're in the remake era. Feel old yet with movies, video games.

[Tim Pool]

They'Re making this, this. But this is why the Disney movies are flopping. And I think the Harry Potter thing is going to flop too.

[Drew Hernandez]

Oh, for sure.

[Tim Pool]

Because it made Snape black. Snape is supposed to be a gangly, scrawny white guy.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What happens is. So look, I, I told my wife, I was like, yeah, like they're remaking Harry Potter. And she goes, why? The movies were perfect. And I was like, well, I think remakes are fine to do. And if they do it as a series, you've got seven seasons that can be more fleshed out with more episodes. And she was just like, yeah, but when they made those movies, the CGI technology was good to make them good. You don't, you don't need to remake them the way we did before, because movies didn't have the technology. So they remake movies now with new cgi, update them with.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So the issue. I see. Okay. My wife's a millennial. I am. We're the Harry Potter base. We grew up with this. We're not going to watch the HBO Harry Potter series.

[Mary Morgan]

Is it because of the Snape race swap or something else? I feel like you wouldn't have watched it anyway. But the Snape race swap is just the cherry on top of a cake.

[Tim Pool]

It's probably the, the, the icing on the cake. Yeah, more than just the cherry.

[Mary Morgan]

I think they also race swapped Hermione, but that's not like. But only a little bit, way or the other.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's like only a little bit. Only like a little swarthy, but that's okay.

[Mary Morgan]

Hard to tell.

[Tim Pool]

The thing is that Snape is described as this gangly, long haired white dude. And they've just really changed it. This is why Little Mermaid flopped. I want to see Ariel. I want to see. When I grew up, when I was a little kid, I saw Little Mermaid and there's Ariel. And then they said, we're not going to give you that. We're going to have a young black woman play Ariel. And I said, okay, that's fine. Make Whatever movie you want. That's not this, that, that's not the nostalgia feeling millennials were looking for. They were looking for their childhood to come back, and you did not give that to them. I got no beef with that young one who did that movie. She's a great singer. Congratulations. You got to be in a Disney movie. But the movie flopped. And I think it's because millennials were like, I'm not buying that. And Gen Z ain't big enough and, and Gen Alpha ain't big enough to actually maintain that market. Additionally, why are the Marvel movies flopping? It's not just because they tried getting woke in that last period. It's because the Marvel movies took off with, what was it? Chris Evans, Hemsworth and, and Robert Downey Jr. Now they're gone.

[Mary Morgan]

They're bringing back.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. And they're gonna make money when they do. And they're. I think they're giving Reptile junior Like a hundred million dollars or something.

[Mary Morgan]

It was for two movies.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

Because they were like wars and Doomsday.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm gonna go see them. I really don't want to see Fantastic Four. I can't stand Pedro Pascal, the Mary Sue Storm movie. I don't care about that. I care that Pedro Pascal is like in every single movie all the time.

[Drew Hernandez]

Well, he's the perfect beta male. That's why he's casting everything, I guess. But he's the guy you, he is the guy you walk over in all these movies.

[Tim Pool]

He's a terrible Reed Richards. What are they doing? What's the name of the actor they got in the, in that one, in the Multiverse movie? Who play Reed Richards?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't remember.

[Drew Hernandez]

Oh, from the Office.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. He was great.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

And it's just like everybody was really excited because that was a fan choice. And then they had him do a brief cameo and then he's gone. Now they're like, killed him. Don't worry, Pedro Pascal's coming back and we're like, so I actually think, I think Fantastic Four will do bad. That's my bet. What do you think it'll do?

[Mary Morgan]

You watch Thunderbolts?

[Drew Hernandez]

Agree.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. And it did bad.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah, it flopped.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Which is. I mean, it did 350 million, but they needed. I thought that's crazy.

[Mary Morgan]

It sells for Fantastic Four. The pre sales were good.

[Tim Pool]

Are they. I mean, it's, it's, it's an established, well known brand.

[Drew Hernandez]

But you had a Captain America movie, an Avengers movie. Because they changed the name to New Avengers.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Drew Hernandez]

You technically have an Avengers movie.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but come on. If that would.

[Drew Hernandez]

Listen, if that were to have come out in the era you're talking the golden. The golden age Marvel, it would have blown up.

[Tim Pool]

Well, to be fair. But see, what happens is back to.

[Drew Hernandez]

Back to back flops is very bad for Marvel.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Drew Hernandez]

Freaking out.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, aside from Deadpool and Wolverine, which.

[Tim Pool]

Was huge for them, but that's only technically Marvel. Yeah, because they just. Fox just sold and all the stuff.

[Drew Hernandez]

And that was nostalgia.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Drew Hernandez]

That's why.

[Tim Pool]

But Ryan Reynolds is fantastic. So Deadpool works. It was like one of the only successful Fox Marvel things they did. The issue is that the MCU died with Captain Marvel. That. That is when the MCU died. Now, you may be saying. But hold on, wait a minute. Endgame came out and got $2 billion. Indeed. And Captain Marvel ruined it. And people stopped watching after that. That's when it went. They. They thought that Brie Larson would replace Robert Downey Jr. And it was so shockingly. I'll be nice. Stupid. Everyone hated her. It didn't work. And then they had to erase her. They made they. So Captain Marvel did like a billion dollars. And the only reason it did is because everyone wanted to see Endgame and they wanted to know how the story was going to tie into it, because it was like a prequel. And then they saw how awful it was. I remember when Pirates of the Caribbean 2 came out, I went to see it opening. I did not go see Pirates of the Caribbean in theaters. I was hanging with my friends, and then someone was like, hey, have you guys seen Pirates of the Caribbean? And I was like, no. They played it. And I went, oh, my God, that movie's amazing. And I saw it in some. Some dude's living room. So when the second one came out, I was like, we gotta go see part two. And it sucks. It was awful. There's like, it makes no sense and there's no ending. And then I saw the commercials where it's like the number one movie in America. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pirates 1 is the number one movie in America. Everybody just wants to relive that good movie, so they're going to see this crappy one. And that's exactly what happens. Nobody. So people want to go see Captain Marvel because everybody liked the previous MCU movies. Captain Marvel was so bad, the sequel bombed. Avengers, End game. I said it before. There were two moments when the entire. The entire theater I was in groaned. You know, those moments were Brie Larson on screen, when Brie Larson gets Headbutted by Thanos, but doesn't flinch, everyone. Oh, like, come on, cringe. Even. Even the strongest heroes get hit and take a hit. It was super cringe. And then when all the women started like, she's not alone. And they all stand up and it does. All the whole audience started groaning and I'm like, that was the end. That's when, you know, and Kevin Feige went and fired all the woke people. And he's trying to bring it back. Bring back Robert Downey Jr. Try and save his fractured, broken franchise. Now they're just burning money on it. Sad. Anyway, let's read super chats. What say you? Good audience.

[Phil Labonte]

His name was John Kristinsky.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, yes, yes. He was great. Although it was really dumb how he's like, I'm going to grab Wanda. Oh, no. I exploded. What are you. What are you doing anyway? Percent Time says, Tim, you didn't read my super chat last night about being in the delivery room. So now I'm asking you to shout out the newest member of my family, my daughter Catherine Diane. Shout out. Welcome to the world. All right, more babies. What have we here? Mark Gidetti says Elon needs rehab. Deport Bannon. This is his fault. How's it Bannon's fault? Common sense fishing says, hey, today. I hate to say I told you so, but I super chatted this a long time ago. Reminded everyone Trump was president when Epstein bit it. Also possible reason why they now say it's all self harm and haven't released the list. Ev issues. I mean, a lot of people were saying that when Bongino was like, he killed himself, it was like, does it incriminate Trump? That's why you're. You're saying this. But Cash seems pretty stone faced. Like, look, I've seen it. It's not what you want it to be.

[Phil Labonte]

I just want him to release.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, but seeing what. Seeing what was left behind for you to see. And now you're talking.

[Tim Pool]

I don't even care about that. Just release the documents. Epstein could be on a private island with a body double taking his place for all I care. As long as you give us the evidence.

[Drew Hernandez]

Yeah, we want the files.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, to be fair, like, it would be bad if Epstein is still alive. I'm just saying the concern is not that. It's like, sure, we want to know, but we want the list. We want the clients anyway.

[Phil Labonte]

Who was raping children and why are they in jail?

[Tim Pool]

James Arenson says, does nothing ever happen now, ghost girl?

[Mary Morgan]

What kind of clapback is that because of the. Because of the beef?

[Phil Labonte]

Yes.

[Mary Morgan]

On the timeline today, is that happening.

[Phil Labonte]

Because of the drama on the timeline?

[Mary Morgan]

All right.

[Tim Pool]

Sean Coon says there is no mega civil war. It's an engineered narrative pr. The Epstein list is a red herring. I don't know about that. Robert Pointer says MAGA is not Trump. I think Trump and the RNC should have backed the Doge mission and not chosen inflation and pork. That being said, they are both acting like children and the adults have left the room.

[Phil Labonte]

It's not inflation. It pork. I mean, there is pork in there. Yes, but like inflation is right now. Like I said, it's. It's at the lowest point it's been since inflation started running with co at the end of COVID Right. Like this. The numbers are like 2.1, which is exactly where the. The Fed wants it. And I don't think that, you know, enshrining the tax cuts as permanent is going to make inflation worse.

[Tim Pool]

But common sense vision says Trump messing up. No Epstein file release. No info on drones. No actual cuts to spending. Big B spending. Bill is anti American. Adds 2 trillion in debt. House of cards. Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

What info on drones are you talking about? The ones that were going over Jersey.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I thought that most people were of the opinion that the. All the focus on the drones in Jersey was because it was a research.

[Tim Pool]

A university was doing drone research, I think. And that was the initial sightings.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It was a government contract for drone testing, which were larger drones.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Those sightings resulted in people launching their own drones, commercial ones, to search for other drones, which resulted in people spotting those drones. And then some people thought planes were drones.

[Phil Labonte]

I thought that. I thought that there was a lot of. That was when the Biden administration pardoned Hunter. I thought the media kind of was like focusing on the drones and all the stories. So that way maybe Hunter Biden story was kind of snuck out in there. He's like, oh, yeah, he did. You know, don't pay attention though. But anyhow.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, okay. Steve X says, looks like Elon agreed not to decommission the Dragon. Just announced an ax. He agreed for the better of America. What is this? I can't read your name. Does it. Is it going to pop up?

[Phil Labonte]

He should have had a snack before he got on Twitter. They both should have. They should have both had nice, big, big snack and some fries.

[Tim Pool]

The dad from beyond says Marvel is dying, but D.C. seems to be on the rise. Thoughts on the upcoming Superman film? Well, I don't know, but I am. I think Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner is going to be epic. And I really love the scene. We've not seen a lot, but the scene where he's walking and he flicks the hand.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

To, like, take out the trucks was. Was great. Guy Gardner, I think. I think Crypto was a bad choice. And there's a reason why we don't include the children's show, TV show version of Superman in our movies. But fine. I guess so. I'm excited for it. I. I am. I do think. I'm a fan of Mr. Terrific. Great character. Really excited to see him on the big screen. So I'm definitely gonna go see the new Superman.

[Phil Labonte]

You're gonna go. You'll go to the movies to see it?

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. Definitely. Yeah. Opening previews. That, that. I'm. I. I just love the Guy Gardner. Nathan Fillion. I'm excited for that. I think he'll do a great job.

[Phil Labonte]

There was people. There were people complaining about his haircut, and it's like, that's the comic book.

[Tim Pool]

True.

[Phil Labonte]

Like, real.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Phil Labonte]

That's. That's.

[Tim Pool]

It's Guy Gardner.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I'm excited to see him. He's gonna be great. Yeah. I don't know about the Hawkman and Hawk girl stuff or whatever, but I thought. I think Peacemaker was a great show. And so they're. They're. They're combining the shows and the movies now, trying to make their own little universe, I guess. But I'm a fan. I think the Peacemaker show was good.

[Phil Labonte]

I didn't see people.

[Tim Pool]

I enjoyed it. Yeah. The. The reboot of Suicide Squad was okay. Peacemaker was good. And they got Guy Gardner. Nathan Phillips. Guy Gardner is in Peacemaker Season 2. Yeah.

[Drew Hernandez]

So, yeah, I think it was the Hollywood Reporter. I can't remember Cena, but I. I do think that he's focusing on, like, a six to ten year expanded universe, starting with this new Superman.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. If it goes well, I. I think Marvel. I've always been a bigger fan of DC than Marvel, so it's always been disappointing to see how they flubbed all the movies. Wonder Woman was good, but, man, did they kind of screw. Shazam was good. Okay, so I'll give them those, but, man, they really screwed them all up.

[Phil Labonte]

I liked man of Steel.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I like the Justice League stuff, especially the Snyder cut, even though it's four hours. I thought it was cool. They had Doomsday in it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh. Oh, yeah. You had to. That was the problem.

[Phil Labonte]

Darkseid was in the. The Snyder cut, too. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[Tim Pool]

Right. No. The problem with the theatrical release was that Steppenwolf was the main villain, and it's like, who?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

And. And they basically tried to do Infinity War. You know, this is the problem with Justice League. They were like, can we do Infinity War before. Before Marvel does, like, the Mother Boxes and Dark side? No, you can't. You need to do the individual movies to establish the characters and then force them to come together.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

No, they didn't do that.

[Phil Labonte]

It's dumb. But, like, I think that Henry Cavill's, like, the best Superman possibly ever.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he was great.

[Tim Pool]

And Batman v Superman was a huge error.

[Phil Labonte]

I thought. Look, man, I thought. I like that movie as well.

[Tim Pool]

It's okay. But he's like, you're letting him kill Martha. Martha. My take on that is like a little kid. Be like, your mom is named Martha. That's my mom's name. We could be friends.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Like, what, you're just trying to kill him?

[Drew Hernandez]

She's lazy. Right.

[Tim Pool]

You know, but what was miserable miserable about it is that they should have just followed the comic. And that is Superman points the spear. I'm sorry. Batman points the kryptite spirit Superman and says, let this be the day you never forget the day I defeated you. And then throws the spear away and then helps him up. Because the point was, you are not invincible. And I can destroy it any moment, never forget. Instead, he was like, wait, your mom is the same name as my mom? Why am I trying to kill you? We got so much in common.

[Phil Labonte]

Some lame stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Very lame.

[Phil Labonte]

Lame stuff happened. But overall, overall, I still like the movie. I like Bad Affleck. Like, I like, you know, Ben Affleck as Batman.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, I think that Henry Cavill was the best Superman going. I mean, overall, I was. I was pleased. I was entertained.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All right. Jacob Schmidt says, when you have a population having kids through in vitro, bad traits aren't bred out and vanity traits may be selected, then the state is required to have the kids for the rest of time. Well, the issue that I see with it immediately is that we don't. The problem we have right now is we don't know the direct correlation between certain traits. So that me that. That may mean right now that, like, hey, you know, minus 20% hypertension, that's good. I want that kid. And then turns out later that that correlates with an increase in brain cancer or something. So I do think AI will. Will sort all that stuff out after we get the data, meaning after people start choosing for these things and they can correlate hypertension with. Cancel those. Then the AI is going to be like, oh, by the way. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Still not going to be. For generations.

[Tim Pool]

Generations.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. You won't be able to. You won't find out who actually has like, or what genes you can turn on and turn off without having.

[Tim Pool]

Right, right, right. But I, I would. I, I guess by generations, it's just going to be years.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So after five years, they may have enough data. Actually, no, you're. You're right. Some of these cancers may not come to fruition for 40 years.

[Phil Labonte]

You have to wait until you get old. Actually get older.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. The Glower Deluxe says I'm a single. Late Gen Z. Don't take my goth girls. I swear to God. Yours. You took them from us. Cringe.

[Phil Labonte]

Don't be silly. Silly. Don't be silly.

[Tim Pool]

Michael Atkins says Trump froze the United. United for Ukraine visa program. My i134, a humanitarian parole visa for my fiance is paused because of Trump's executive order. And the K1 visa has taken a while. My fiance's city was just hit by two rockets. I mean, it's miserable. I feel bad. I don't think Russia should have invaded Ukraine and all that, but I just don't think we should be involved, especially if Ukraine's attacking us. That's crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine false flag attacked us and tried to blame Russia. He. Zelensky keeps saying Russia's gonna attack America.

[Phil Labonte]

I really hope. I really hope that's outside of the realm of possibility.

[Tim Pool]

Well, according to Germany, it was several Ukrainians who bombed the Nord Stream pipeline.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So that is our ally having their energy shut. Energy access cut off.

[Phil Labonte]

Biden. Didn't Biden say something like, you know, if. If Putin does whatever, then he's going to have to deal with, with.

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[Phil Labonte]

CT mobile.com you know, we'll make sure that the pipeline is isn't working or something like that. I thought Biden made something like that, some kind of remark like that as well. Which is part of why people thought that it was the US that actually sabotaged it in the first place. When it right after it happened, there were a lot of people that were saying, oh, it was probably the seals. It was probably the seals. See, Biden said this, blah blah blah. And they would bring up the clip. You know, tweet it. But.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Extant man says is Mary the ghost of Ukraine.

[Phil Labonte]

Goes to Kiev.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, the fighter pilot.

[Mary Morgan]

Yes, I moonlight as a fighter pilot.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Zero news says in regards to cryptids. Check out the game Horrified. Okay. Or Fallout 76. Fallout 76 is based in West Virginia and a lot of the big monsters are literally just the West Virginia cryptids. Only they're saying the radiation, my friends. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Head over to rumble.com timcast irl for that uncensored call in show where you as members of the Tim cast Discord can talk to us and our guests. Gonna be fun. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. And don't forget, Tales from the Inverted World goes live at 10. So if you want to have a bigger conversation about cryptids, UFOs, ghosts, it is open. Call INS meaning literally anybody can just call in and talk about all that weird stuff. He's got stories. Tales from the Inverted World is looking for you and they're on. They're on YouTube and rumble. Drew, do you want to shout anything out?

[Drew Hernandez]

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[Mary Morgan]

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[Phil Labonte]

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