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Tim Pool
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George Santos
Boom.
Tim Pool
Who are you?
George Santos
Who am I? I don't know.
Ian Crossland
Who are you?
Tim Pool
That's a podcast host. And I was gonna.
George Santos
I was gonna do a riff on the. Why are you gay?
Tim Pool
Actually, that's the question for you.
George Santos
Who's gay?
Tim Pool
You are. But anyway, I'm not gay. Actually, I think everybody knows you. Some people probably have more disparaging ways to describe you than others.
George Santos
Yeah, I'm not everybody's favorite, but you know what? I don't give a fuck.
Phil Remains
Oh, F bombs right there.
George Santos
Sorry, you didn't. Rules beep. No, I do know the rules. Have you not breaking them? Yes. There you go.
Tim Pool
We also have David Pollock hanging out.
David Pollock
Hey, everybody. Thank you for having me here.
Tim Pool
Who are you? What do you do?
David Pollock
I asked that question every single day. I host David Pollock prime time on
Tim Pool
the one American News Network. All right. On. Of course, Ian is here.
George Santos
Sub Dog.
Tim Pool
Got to have a wild card in the mix. We got Carter pressing the buttons. What's up? And Phil.
Phil Remains
Hello, everybody.
Tim Pool
Let's jump into the first story, a continuation of this ongoing drama. Tucker Carlson trolls Trump after president's furious nutjob attack. I love this. So masterfully done.
George Santos
Dumb.
Tim Pool
Look at.
George Santos
I love Tucker, but so dumb.
Tim Pool
And I mean, look at this. I'm sorry, like, what is that?
George Santos
I am going to call Tucker and say, my friend, this is a bad idea. And I like Tucker. Tucker's a great dude to me. We don't agree. We've never agreed on pretty much much. And that's fine. That's why I guess I have a great relationship and dialogue with him. This is stupid. And I'm going to tell him that I have been saying this is silly.
Tim Pool
There is an effort to destroy the MAGA base. There's a coordinated effort. They've been trying really hard to make me anti Trump. So like a bunch of prominent Trump supporters have been attacking me, putting me in the same camp as Tucker and all them. I kind of like, I look at this and I'm just going, is this an op? Like, do they not understand the optics of a bunch of conservative Tucker fans wearing hats, a low IQ walking around?
Ian Crossland
It's really disturbing because most people don't know where what this is in reference to. They just are going to see people self promoting low iq and it's like, what? Tucker was baited into doing this like with his own emotional bro.
Tim Pool
No, I'm like, he's mocking. Yeah.
Phil Remains
They're like, oh, that's a great idea.
Tim Pool
Called Trump after the post and was going, and they're laughing together at all the people stupid enough to wear these hats.
George Santos
I mean, look. Or there's that too, right? And we know that Trump will have a public spat with somebody and then kind of like, right.
Tim Pool
Like Elon, no kiss and makeup.
David Pollock
You know what I think is, you ever been to Disney the World and you've seen the families that spend their like their year savings to take their kids to Disney World for a week and then by like 3 o', clock, the kids are napping, the parents are sweating, everybody's screaming at each other. Everybody's screaming and crying. Shut up. We paid our life savings to have fun at Disney World.
Phil Remains
We're gonna have fun.
David Pollock
Put these Mickey Mouse ears on and shut up. We're going to wait in for two hours.
Tim Pool
I think where we are.
George Santos
Tell me more about your life right there. Trust me, I have two kids.
David Pollock
I think where we are with MAGA is that, you know, I just saw a video out of Florida where a Haitian on temporary status beat a woman to death with a hammer.
Phil Remains
Yeah.
David Pollock
And you know, we're trying to do people. I think we are right now with MAGA is, oh, okay. I guess let's just put aside all the terrible things we forgot about two years ago and what we were dealing with. The Joe Biden in January, six people sitting in prison and you know, basically immigrants coming across the border and murdering people. And now we're like, can we just complain about Epstein and Iran? That would be great. 2026 is a few months away. Let's just complain about the stuff that everybody wants us to complain about and forget the fact that the Democrats want to put us all in jail to that point.
Phil Remains
Will crazy Will Chamberlain had a great post. He said border crossings are near zero. Negative net negative migration. 95% reduction in asylum grants, lawsuits against a slew of woke university DEI getting crushed everywhere. Massive beneficial deregulation. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime. Venezuela turned into an American alley. And that's just off the top of my head. People continue to say that Donald Trump has done not. They'll swear up and down that he hasn't done anything. He's done nothing.
George Santos
He lied.
Phil Remains
He lied to mag. He hasn't done anything. And it's like if. Or they'll make their argument.
George Santos
No Democrats on tips in there. Yeah, okay, Democrats remind people.
Phil Remains
Democrats and some. And some MAGA critical people will say, oh well, you know, there's no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. That is just so patently false. I have to think you're an imbecile or just.
Tim Pool
It's easy. I'm going to explain it. The reports. Reports came out a few weeks ago that right wing content has dropped about 27%. So you'll notice two big trends. And earlier I had specifically called out Brandon Strock. Though I don't mean anything too heavily by it. Brandon, don't get mad at me.
George Santos
Oh, you're gonna get a call.
Tim Pool
But he called. He called me a retard for a joke post that I made.
George Santos
Really.
Tim Pool
So I responded with, if you look at Brandon's account, you'll see that he's doing something new.
George Santos
He's the whole Colin Rugg style stuff.
Tim Pool
It's just basically posting every minute a news clip or a viral video. And whereas he used to be commentary on the state of politics and walking away, now it's just generic news content. Blast, blast, blast, blast. A lot of right wing personalities have started doing this because no longer are you getting retweets and views by saying something like, go Trump. There's two kinds of content that gets views right now, general viral and anti Trump. So if you look at David Pakman as a great example, he made a video where, where he said, Trump rushes out press conference after he pooped his pants. Never happened. There's no evidence of anything indicating it. Trump didn't change his clothes. Literally nothing happened. And the left just said it did. He made a video and he got 2.5 million views. I mean, that's gonna be like 10 to $20,000 cash in pocket.
George Santos
Yep.
Tim Pool
So if you are a podcaster, influencer, you are looking at, your views drop because the right's in power. They're not fighting woke anymore. Woke is under the rug right now. So the only way to actually get traffic is general viral or anti Trump. And what are we seeing? Candace Owens is the embodiment of this. First, she was a liberal with social autopsy. Then she was red pill black. Then she joined the Daily Wire. Then she left to talk about Blake Lively. She was tracking top trends among people, and now she settled on Israel, anti Trump, et cetera. She. Trump is just basically gonna. She, she. According to Jeremy, boring. Her words are she will represent whatever the people believe. She is going to be their avatar. So when I see these people all going after Trump, the first thing I say is, yeah, if you, if you're trying to get clicks on the Internet and make money, you have to follow the trends in the same time. When they accuse me of doing it and simultaneously claim I'm not. Not relevant anymore and losing views, I say, okay, I am not going to pretend to hate Trump because I should have more views or whatever. I'm going to say what I think is true and what's going on.
George Santos
You know, I get a lot of
Ian Crossland
no, oh, well, some people will allow themselves to get baited into becoming the enemy that they're telling you you are. That's their tactic, is they want you to become the fascist dictator so they can be like, hey, and they want you to. You know. But I think the working hypothesis that I've got going on is 2016, 17, 18, 19, people kind of split up because we're criticizing the liberal economic order. Trump was red pilling the world, telling them what it was basically the deep state. And people started getting paid and building these networks to criticize each other and criticize aspects of each other's reality. Then we kind of resolved it with Trump's second election. Now people are still addicted to the money and the fighting, but the technocratic AI wants that. It's inciting it. Wait, hold on. Let me finish with. With comments. It's getting people to continue fighting because if it comes in as an overarch, it's going to take over everything. It's going to be a technocratic dystopia. We cannot allow that with bickering.
Tim Pool
You're half right. The people are addicted to the culture war fighting. But there's nothing to fight.
George Santos
There's nothing to fight. That's my point.
Tim Pool
Yeah, we've won so much.
George Santos
There's nothing left to oppose, really. And now people are meandering like, oh, there's nothing to complain about. I'm just gonna make the best.
Phil Remains
The best they can come up with is Donald Trump. Donald Trump told me that I was. Donald Trump told me that I was gonna get tired of winning, and we haven't won enough where I'm tired of it.
Tim Pool
Who wants to read this tweet that I posted?
Phil Remains
I'll read it. After reading all the replies to my tweets, I've come to realize that I have been working. I' been wrong about everything. Trump is demonic and a mad king. I should have seen it sooner. Israel has been controlling everything the whole time I was blind. I apologize and hope that moving forward, you will still consider reposting me on X and buying my coffee.
Tim Pool
And that last line, gone up. The point is, this is obvious to anybody with at least a couple brain cells to rub together. Not anymore. My joke is the world, I apologize. Please buy my coffee. The joke is, I'll say whatever you want. Give me money. I'm making fun of these people. There are replies where they're like, oh, now you're trying to pretend to be anti Trump. Nice try, Tim. And there are people being like, you should have called out Israel a long time ago. But I appreciate you're doing it now. It is. It is a sea of retards.
George Santos
Dude, I said I wasn't coming to tonight.
Tim Pool
You canceled.
George Santos
I canceled on that post. And people are like, no, he's being sarcastic. I'm like, I know. I'm canceling today. And people are like, no, no, he's being sarcastic.
Ian Crossland
Look at his video from the other day.
Tim Pool
Trolling.
Ian Crossland
I feel like there's a sense of
Tim Pool
never bought it, never will. Beanie boy, you're a grifter, just like the rest.
George Santos
There's like, Tim being sarcastic. It's just like, what?
Ian Crossland
There's a sense of empowerment from trolling the world like Andy Kaufman style. But I. I've been trying to figure out if it's the right thing to do. I don't think it is because people.
Phil Remains
Because you're no fun and you have
Ian Crossland
no, no sense acting like the villain to. No, no, no, no. They can see you.
Tim Pool
Hold on, hold on. Sarcastic sarcasm is a normal thing in human.
Ian Crossland
If there's tone, but without tone in text, it's not.
Tim Pool
I don't care.
Ian Crossland
Well, that's the problem.
George Santos
I read that.
Tim Pool
No, no, it's not the problem.
Ian Crossland
You read it with sarcasm.
Phil Remains
Shame on you, Tim. Shame on you.
Tim Pool
It is not my intention nor do I care. Your reaction. The people who understand what I'm doing. It's who I'm speaking to. I think Michael Malice agrees with me largely on this one. We are not making these posts for a bunch of retards who go and have. This is for the sane, rational people that we are communicate, communicating with intentionally.
Ian Crossland
But the other people see it too, then riles them up.
Tim Pool
I am not a special ed teacher, okay? I don't exist.
Ian Crossland
We're all kind of special ed teachers posting on the Internet.
Tim Pool
Well, okay, fair.
George Santos
I don't make a concerted effort to be a good special ed teacher then because I just say whatever comes to my little heart.
Ian Crossland
I'm about not playing today. You don't want to play to the lowest comment.
George Santos
Actually bought coffee.
Tim Pool
Oh, look at this. But look at this, look at this.
George Santos
I can read this one.
Tim Pool
Yeah, read it.
Ian Crossland
According to Tim Pool's Description on the April 9th Timcast IRL. God, I can barely read this episode. Trump called him personally before the truth social post. Pool said Trump thanked him for the support, calling him a good nerd.
David Pollock
No, it's his friend.
Ian Crossland
A good friend. I can't read that.
Tim Pool
And joked about the fifth Avenue line. Trump laughed. Poole shared his live on air right after no public confirmation or denial from Trump yet. Some viewers treat Poole's account as credible based on live recounting. Others question it without independent verification. Grok. There's threads just going crazy where grok is like Tim Pool did talk with Donald Trump on the phone. All based off of. Look at this. Absolutely psychotic what you posted. Here's another one. Here's another one.
George Santos
Here you go.
Tim Pool
Dude, I love this.
David Pollock
I read a teleprompter.
Tim Pool
Look at this guy.
David Pollock
Said, if you need me to read your tweets, you just let me know.
Tim Pool
He might just stumble into it. I tweeted this, dude. What if it turns out it was Trump the whole time with Epstein and Democrats had nothing to do with it. And my point with these Posts. It is.
David Pollock
That was great.
Tim Pool
It is. This gives me an example. This guy, Tizzy Ent is a grifter. He is fake. Okay? These people at the higher level know I support Trump. Not all the time, but generally. And this is sarcasm mocking everything going on with people turning on Trump. They don't care about the context. They post it knowing that he's going to get 363,000 views.
Ian Crossland
But context means with text. There is nothing with it. It's just text.
Tim Pool
So there is no post in the context which is conceived. It didn't just fall out of a coconut tree, Ian.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, but context indicates there's more than just text with. With the communication.
George Santos
Ian, you're missing the point. Tim's a communicator. He's on every single day, seven days a week.
Tim Pool
Well, I sometimes put stuff on the week. Well, no, no. Yeah, seven days a week.
George Santos
That's what I'm saying. Seven days a week. So seven days a week for the last decade. I want to. I'm. And I'm trying to be general right here. Wow. If you don't understand the tone in which he communicates with then.
Tim Pool
But.
George Santos
But you don't belong in that sphere. That's just my. That's my.
Tim Pool
It's not just that Twitter, like this tweet exists in a news cycle. There is contemporary context around this post, and that is Trump attacked Tucker, Candace, Alex, etc. They attacked him back. I made a post that was like, look at me, I'm calling out Trump. Anyone who saw this should know the context of what is going on in this conversation. And you need. You would need to look at what Tim Pool is talking about. There was. I can't remember who it was. I think it might have been Patton Oswalt 10 years ago on Oswald. Oh, my God. He posted. I think it was Panos. I'm not sure. I can't remember who it was. It might have been Ricky Gervais. They posted. He was posting tweets in the replies. And so the first sentence was always really offensive. He would say something like, you know, I think Hitler did nothing. And then, you know, it would. And then be followed up by redeemable. He's an evil man who should have been.
George Santos
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
And those tweets would go viral and. And he was making that. I can't remember who it was who did this, but the point was Oswald.
Ian Crossland
That.
George Santos
That's his.
Tim Pool
Remember that?
George Santos
Yeah, I not only remember that, but
Tim Pool
the full statement was criticism of Hitler. But when you cut it off, that
George Santos
was the 140 character era, which is how Trump became so indomitable on. On Twitter.
David Pollock
Right?
George Santos
Like you couldn't really beat him because he, he. It was either one word answers to like whatever was in the context at that moment or like these really short liners. And that's how he became so popular with the app. But I gotta.
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Tim Pool
This one.
George Santos
Trump is saving them.
Tim Pool
Y' all don't get it. Trump is saving them. He's casting them out knowing that Democrats will come after anyone who supports him after the midterms. Trump is being maga.
George Santos
I thought that was it would tell him. Magnanimous. Yeah.
Tim Pool
I wrote anonymous. And then Kellen goes maga Nanoman. So I was like, oh, that's too good.
George Santos
So good. That's so good.
Tim Pool
And the funny thing is that people believe it. Now look right, right below it. So here's a tweet that if you did not read the context, it's me saying, no, no, Trump is. Is good right right below it. That does it. I am done. This is the last straw. I'm so angry. This one's got what, 5 million views? 4.8 million views. All of these liberals are sharing this post being like, Tim Pool switched to the Democratic Party. Tim Pool's calling it Republicans, Democrat, landslide. All of this stuff.
Ian Crossland
Well, when I saw that, I was like, I don't know if you're being true or not. And I'm not reading that garbage.
Tim Pool
I didn't even say what I was angry about. I know.
Ian Crossland
I didn't know.
George Santos
Not just that.
Ian Crossland
Believe it or not, Kreisnstein pissed you off or if you liked it. I didn't know.
Tim Pool
No, they're saying Trump pissed me off. The point is there's no. There is nothing in my statement to latch onto. And the reason. The point of this tweet is liberals are sharing it saying Tim Pool is mad at Trump, and conservatives are sharing it saying Tim Pool lost it over at Krestenstein.
Ian Crossland
Happening is you're playing 3D or 4D chess with these people out thinking them. But there's people that are going to see that, that have never even heard of the game.
George Santos
No, no. There's people who are disingenuous, who will pretend to not know what's going on.
Tim Pool
Ian.
George Santos
And play that just like.
Tim Pool
But I don't follow the point. Let me help you.
Ian Crossland
What Candace said.
Tim Pool
Indeed. And then when I go on my show and explain how people are intentionally taking gags from this larger context. Four clicks. I can say this proves it.
Ian Crossland
But that's just your audience that will see.
David Pollock
Indeed.
Ian Crossland
And the other people, because they're not referencing anyone, is welcome to the real people that have action.
George Santos
Who do you think he cares about talking to Talk.
Ian Crossland
The human race.
Tim Pool
But my question is.
George Santos
I care about my question. Sorry.
Tim Pool
My question is. And. And what?
Ian Crossland
And if you aggravate people unintentionally, they can come like, who's a really bad thing?
Tim Pool
Who's aggravated?
Ian Crossland
People that think that you're saying something you're not.
Tim Pool
Who. What group?
Ian Crossland
You just said liberals earlier, you said.
Tim Pool
And conservatives sharing it.
Ian Crossland
People. People that are confused. I don't know.
Tim Pool
Liberals and conservatives.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, people might get.
Tim Pool
So I have. I have. I have tweets that can functionally be viewed as either left or right. They're in discernible. And you get left and right. Everybody is just fighting each other. My point being these people are lying. They know that these. The context of these things, either trolling, joke, sarcasm, or vagaries. And they're engaging below in the tweets for no reason. Because they are fake. It's fake and gay. If the joke is, you go on act and say I like pancakes. And. And someone responds with what's wrong with waffles? That's the point. Each and every one of these people responding, they know exactly what they're doing. They know exactly what's being said and why. They are just part of tribal fervor.
David Pollock
Well, you know what you're creating here, though. You're a weapons manufacturer here. And now you're like, well, I didn't really. I didn't intend on what they're doing with these weapons, because what we.
Tim Pool
Well, no, I. Well, maybe you do, but I want to show people the weapons. Like, you talk about information. Sorry to interrupt.
George Santos
No, you're fine.
Tim Pool
You talk about information, vaccination, Ian.
Ian Crossland
Sure.
Tim Pool
You've talked about how you've had to go to your parents and be like, listen, this story's gonna come out. It's not true. Here's the real news. That way when the TV comes on, they go, wait a minute. Because if they hear the lie first, they're less inclined to believe the truth after. With these posts, I have explained to people over and over again how the grifters operate. I largely think the people attacking Trump are doing it. Not everybody, but it's because you don't get the clicks for supporting Trump like you used to. Then I can. I can show these posts to people like your parents and say, look. And they're going to go, well, that's obviously a joke. And I'm like, then why did this guy claim it was the truth?
David Pollock
And, well, that's what was my point, the weapons manufacturing. Because we started to see this, I don't know, maybe nine, 10 months when Epstein first broke, it was right after Binder Gate. You started seeing people go, there's an opportunity, when I think Bindergate was actually part of that, to create a narrative that can be used to make it. People believe, like we talked about before the show, that MAGA is split. See, the cracks are starting to show. And what has happened since Epstein, since Bindergate has visited, concerted effort. You see people on social media, these, what Rush called seminar callers coming, and be like, look, I voted for Trump. I loved Trump. I was a Libertarian. I voted for Trump, and now I would never vote for him again. Because of Epstein, because of Iran, because nobody's gone to jail for Crossfire Hurricane. And so what. What's happened is these posts like you mentioned, are being weaponized by dishonest people, but is creating a larger narrative that will be believed by retards.
Tim Pool
So let me tell you some. Everybody keeps asking this question, are these personalities getting foreign money?
Ian Crossland
That's.
Tim Pool
No, I think so.
George Santos
You don't think so?
Tim Pool
Absolutely not.
Ian Crossland
Hard to track.
Tim Pool
Getting Democrat money, right?
David Pollock
But Democrats getting the Democrats.
George Santos
I don't want to be sued, Tim, but I can tell you this. I know one specific influencer, though. Huh? I know one specific Influencer who had a very stark opinion on Qatar, went to Qatar, came back and I know
David Pollock
exactly what you're talking about.
George Santos
It's. No, no, no, it's not. There's two Carlson, not Tucker, I think
Tim Pool
I know you know who you're talking
George Santos
about and we're very good friends. And I, I haven't said anything, but I'm in Texas. No, actually, no, not from Texas. Not, not from Texas. And I sat back and I'm like, what happened? Like, you used to have a very sharp opinion on Qatar. You come back from this week, random trip in Qatar and now it's like, Qatar, the land of make believe, everything to top Ivy League schools for free.
Tim Pool
Here's the trick, here's the trick. Remember when Tim Dillon got disinvited from, from Riyadh.
George Santos
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Because he criticized Saudi Arabia.
George Santos
Yeah.
Tim Pool
They don't pay you to say things, they just offer to pay you. So if I said something like, you know, George, you know, we'd love to have you on the show once a month and we'll pay you a retainer for it. The idea there is, I don't need to pay George to praise me. He just won't speak out against me because he doesn't want to risk a contract. These companies like Qatar, Israel, Saudi, whoever else, they don't pay people to speak. They don't put them on a payroll and say, I'll give you $7,000 for a post. They say, oh, we'd love to have you as a speaker at one of our events. We'll pay you $10,000. Then the person goes, I better not say anything bad about them because I
George Santos
don't want to come back.
Tim Pool
Exactly.
George Santos
Well, that's, that's the whole world I live in.
David Pollock
Right.
George Santos
So even what I said to you earlier, right before we started recording, like, so I have different deals with different sponsors and, and companies, and obviously I can't speak about them or, or praise, let's say, the competition. But this is so much more than that because this, in my opinion, goes into, is there foreign influence here? Is there, is there a foreign influence trying to control the narrative of the news cycle in the United States? That's why I have.
Tim Pool
The answer is yes. But the Democrats have been talking for a long time and we predicted this, that after the election they said, we need a Joe Rogan. In fact, some of the articles not only said, who is the liberal Joe Rogan? One of them hilariously said, we don't have a Joe Rogan. We don't even have a Tim Pool. And I thought that was funny because they're basically saying, like, I'm like a D tier podcaster, like, I'm not as big as Tucker and them, but they're like, we don't even have that. The point everybody made is you did. It was Joe Rogan and Tim Pool, but you are nuts. So here's the thing. We predicted at the end of 2024, during the election that they were going to dump tens of millions, hundreds of millions into buying up these shows to control narrative. When I see prominent personalities flipping on a dime seemingly overnight, I don't feel like it's organic. However, when you add into the. Into the mix that we know Democrat organizations needed to find a liberal Joe Rogan, why would they go to David Pakman? He already says what they want him to say. If they need to win a culture war, they don't need a liberal Joe Rogan. They need Joe Rogan. So what do you do?
George Santos
Money.
Tim Pool
Money to the people who would speak out against you, who will now speak out for you.
George Santos
But here's a, Here's a. One problem with that, with that line of thought. Of the four mentioned in Trump's tweet, Tucker doesn't need it. Any of it. Right. And I'm not defending Tucker here, but.
Tim Pool
But again, is the heir.
George Santos
I know.
Tim Pool
Tucker fortune, right?
George Santos
Huh?
Tim Pool
Is he the heir to the Swanson fortune?
George Santos
I don't keep up with his personal finances. I know he's not poor.
Tim Pool
Let's just know this is a big deal.
George Santos
So. So my point here is Tucker doesn't need it. So it's not money. Tucker's more of a.
Tim Pool
Sorry, sorry, it's not correct.
George Santos
It's not. Okay, so Tucker's more of an idealistic human being. So whatever he's saying, he truly believes. Now, when it comes to Candace, Megan and Alex Jones, which Alex Jones, who I've called for years, batshit crazy. I have. I don't know why people ever gave him an ounce of credibility, especially after Sandy Hook. But, you know, I sit here and I speak for myself, and I'm gonna get a lot of heat for this, but I think Alex Jones is certifiably insane. And then you have Megyn Kelly, who completely has lost her proverbial mind. I mean, the woman's obsessed with all the things that doesn't matter in reality to society. And then you have Candace, who literally has insisted Brigitte Macron has a penis. I mean,
Tim Pool
certifiable.
David Pollock
She does have a right hook.
George Santos
No, my point being is what led. What led Candace Owens to, to believe or suspect that Brigitte Macron had a penis?
Ian Crossland
That's my question. Because you said Tucker probably believes what he said. You actually said he, you believe.
George Santos
I don't think Candace believes what she says.
Ian Crossland
So why do people believe what they believe too? Because maybe they're lying, maybe they're not.
Tim Pool
No, I think.
George Santos
Why are they believing?
Serena Williams
Money.
George Santos
No, you're missing the point.
Tim Pool
Point, Ian.
George Santos
She wants money.
Tim Pool
She wants status. Why she.
George Santos
Status, money, notoriety. Did you know that Candace Owens, right now I have an entire crew. Well, no, it's more to it. I have an entire LA based publicity company. The, the, like my publicist is in la, my manager is in la. They are all liberals and there's no way you, you work in entertainment without a liberal crew around you or else you don't move forward. That's a sad part of the reality. But did you know Candace Owens has become like a darling on like liberal America?
Tim Pool
Well, she's anti Trump.
George Santos
She's, she's like, she's going to be darling of liberal. L A is obsessed with her. There is a rumor in L, A right now that ABC is considering hiring her and giving her a daytime talk show.
Ian Crossland
This is the thing about Candace.
George Santos
This is not, this isn't. Again, it's a rumor. But in L A, rumors pan out to be true. Twelve months down the line when the new, when the new broadcast timeline comes around, which is September, January and boom. I would not be shocked if we see Candace Owens with a daytime primetime television, which the audience is predominantly female.
Tim Pool
I just, look, I wouldn't be shocked when you're, you know, Candace, and you're doing things that are just heavily female, coded to attract a female line, which, one second while I drink from my stomach, looks refreshing. I just love these Stanley cups so much. So great.
George Santos
I have them in like eight colors.
Tim Pool
Well, anyway, as I was.
George Santos
Women love that shit.
Tim Pool
When you do trending, trendy things that women love, they just stare at you.
Ian Crossland
We clip you. We should clip that and put that live somewhere.
Tim Pool
I, Media Matters got mad at me because I said, can I pull this kind of pull this up? Because we're just, we're being, we're being naughty.
Phil Remains
They got mad because their media matters.
George Santos
I feel like I'm in Europe drinking out of this bottle.
Ian Crossland
Is it so small?
George Santos
No, because it's attached to my face, the cap. Oh yeah, here's the European thing.
Tim Pool
Here's litter.
Ian Crossland
That's it.
Tim Pool
Here's why I'm not going to get an ABC daytime talk show. Phil, you Want to read that one?
Phil Remains
Tim Poole. Women vote for drama. They vote for stupid interpersonal trash that does not matter to the function of a society. They vote for soap operas. I took, I retweeted that and I said it's all true. Because it is all true.
George Santos
Listen, all true.
Phil Remains
It is all true.
George Santos
I have a major female audience, so please don't say that it is a general. You're not watching tonight, or else.
Tim Pool
I got you. I'm going to say this again, George. I am going to get business cards printed out that say if someone presents macro level statistics and you respond with an anecdote, you are low iq. Or it will say, a person who responds to macro level statistics with an anecdote is low iq. That way when I point out to, when I talk to a woman and I say something like, well, in general, women vote for drama and interpersonal stuff and they go, well, I don't. I can hand them the card. And that's the point. It's not about women, it's about any group. Because this is what you see all the time. The truth is, women as a voting bloc do trend this way. Not every single one, of course. In fact, maybe about 35 to 40% do not. But as a voting bloc, it is reliable that if you want to maximize your female votes, social trend, cultural, those are your key elements. Which is why Candace Owens has a Stanley cup on her desk. This is a status symbol among women. It's not just about what she's saying, because what she's saying is retarded, like debacle or kerflafel. These are not words. But women care largely about the imagery and the high status of it. So when Candace presents salacious about a drama like Blake Lively, oh my God, Brigitte Macron has a penis. Women love it. That's why she has such a massive female audience. Guys don't our audience about 80%. Dudes, I know.
George Santos
And every time I come on, they're dying. They're like, why is he there?
Tim Pool
Eyesing all over. Listen, have you seen the viral video of the man answering his wife's question? Like his wife that went viral recently? Yeah. So for those who don't know, it's. It's a guy and he's. He, he's like. He grabs his keys and he walks to the door and she goes, hey, hon, where you going? And he goes, oh my God. So let me tell you, right? So you remember Jim, right? Well, Jim and I were actually going to a bar after work because you remember when I was saying, I was like, I'm going to meet with Jim. I haven't seen him in a long time. So anyway, he tells this rambling long winded story and then he goes, so yeah, anyway, the guy that he worked with whose brother was friends with the chef actually has a restaurant and downtown. And she goes, are you going to that restaurant? Like, no, no, no, we're going for beers to talk. And then he walks at the door. And the joke was for men, this is how women answer questions.
George Santos
It's true.
Tim Pool
And again, what irks me about stuff like this with media matters getting mad is that women get offended when men make observations from a male perspective that they wish did not happen. So when I say something like, women vote for stupid interpersonal trash. The. The, the rational response is not F you, Tim Pool. Don't talk about women that way. It's. Well, I'd phrase it less harshly, but women prefer social issues over logistical issues. Men, men prefer hearing about objective, straightforward. Women love hearing about the personal. So it's subjective versus objective. Like this is not a wrong statement. It's offensive to women. Not on the merits. On.
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Tim Pool
with GLP ones the intention on the emotion.
George Santos
I got it.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
If it was a psychologist making this statement, it would say women tend to. That would be the only difference in the statement.
Tim Pool
No, it wouldn't.
Ian Crossland
It's a tendency.
Tim Pool
Basically, if it was written by a psychologist it would say as a voting bloc, women vote for issues of social importance.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, there would be like a.
Tim Pool
As a vote for interpersonal issues and cultural issues as opposed to objective functioning of sex.
Ian Crossland
I mean it would be just be you would make sure that they know it's a tendency and not a hard.
Tim Pool
No, that's not correct.
Ian Crossland
Not all women do what you say they do.
Tim Pool
So that does not true. Do you need the card? Do you need the card? Ian? I made those cards for you because of exactly what you're saying right now
Ian Crossland
at the top, that it's a generalization.
Tim Pool
Ian, for the love of all that is holy, I literally just made a whole joke tirade about how people who respond to macro level politics with anecdotes are low iq.
Ian Crossland
I know. And that doesn't mean that.
Tim Pool
And then you just said it.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, funny doesn't mean that your joke is true.
Tim Pool
It's a fact.
Ian Crossland
Okay, but I didn't use an anecdote either.
Tim Pool
Anecdotal evidence is saying not all women macro level.
Ian Crossland
Like I know a girl and she's not.
Tim Pool
That would be macro level. Statistics don't need qualifiers, bro.
Ian Crossland
I'm saying you're claiming a generalization and you didn't tell people that was a generalization in your statement.
Tim Pool
Can someone help?
Ian Crossland
I don't know what to say.
Phil Remains
Like there is no help. I hear this stuff all the time. You just got to sit back and enjoy the ride.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, there is no argument.
George Santos
Anyway, I'm a guest here.
David Pollock
I'm trying not to break anything.
Phil Remains
This is the best part about this
George Santos
is this is when it gets really spicy. I love it. I love spicy.
Tim Pool
Ian, macro level statistics not need qualifiers. End of story.
George Santos
I tend to agree with Tim. I don't think they need them.
Ian Crossland
But if you want to be like a psychologist would have used one.
Tim Pool
You are in.
George Santos
Why are you going a psychologist?
Ian Crossland
Because their intention is to not. They don't want to confuse, reduce, harm. They don't want to confuse people. They don't want to create confusion. Seems more of a, of a social. Like a culture jammer.
George Santos
Yeah, like a hammer.
Ian Crossland
So that's the difference.
Tim Pool
The statement. The reason why I joked about printing up these cards is because statisticians and researchers do not use qualifiers when they say things like women vote Democrat.
Ian Crossland
My take on that is if you have a statistic that women voted Democrat up to the today, now we're taking that statistic. That doesn't mean that in the future they will.
Tim Pool
I'll change. I don't think you can comprehend.
George Santos
Women vote Democrat and here's why. Women vote Democrat because there's no interpersonal skills. And the majority of Republican candidates.
Tim Pool
That's a agreed. They're, you know, Republicans.
George Santos
Know I was the first Republican in New York State in 26 years to win with a majority female vote. Oh yeah, yeah, 52%. You know why? Because I actually talk to women.
Tim Pool
Can I, can I.
George Santos
Obviously I'm gay and every woman is a fag hag. And that's a fact. I mean, okay, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me speak this in. Okay. Statistically a majority of women are fag hags. They love to have the gay bff. I showed up I talked to women. I speak the women vernacular. And I got 52 of the female vote, which was like, boom to everybody. Like, how did George Santos do it? He's a scammer. He's a fraud. No, I actually talked. I showed up. I'm like, oh, my God, your hair looks great. Love your nails. Like, oh, that bag's great, dude. And I mean it too. I'm not just throwing away. I don't throw on compliments because I go online and then I eviscerate women for wearing shoes.
Tim Pool
This is sales. I want to say something, with all due respect to Brian Hollahan.
George Santos
Oh, I was gonna say, please don't. Don't be respectful.
Tim Pool
So we were. We were playing. So Blair Wright was here the other day.
George Santos
Yeah, Yesterday.
Tim Pool
And she plays Magic the Gathering. And so I said, let's roll. We played some commander and I mopped her up.
John Chris
Oh.
Tim Pool
I taught her a lesson. It was very fun. And, oh, you know, I don't even
George Santos
know what that is.
Tim Pool
Magic the Gathering. These cards I got by me. It's a card game.
Phil Remains
Oh.
Tim Pool
But. But Blair asked about the makeup of the magic audience. Like, is it conservative as a liberal? I said, oh, it's almost entirely like liberal, I guess. But it's because the older guys who play magic, people who are like 40. Like, I've been playing it since. Since the game came out. Like, we are more moderate to right leaning and young people are all, like, in culture, young people are all left. And I said, the reason why is Republicans are suit wearing losers. So the reason I say, with all due respect to Brian, Holly, and I'm not trying to rag on a young man, but again, I hope he hears this.
George Santos
Thank you for saying that, Brian.
Tim Pool
Brian Hollihan is a stodgy square. I am not trying to be disrespectful or mean to this kid because a lot of people ragged on him. And I'm not. I'm not for that. But I think it's important to stress he has the charisma of a cardboard box.
George Santos
But that's 90% of Republicans, by the way. By the way, you're welcome. He was going to show up in a fucking suit today.
David Pollock
I don't know what to wear to things.
George Santos
I said, you're going to a bro podcast and you're going to wear a suit. Suit.
David Pollock
I work in politics and news. I don't.
George Santos
I don't know what to wear. Stop.
Ian Crossland
Cardboard box.
Tim Pool
Look at what Ian's wearing.
George Santos
That is.
Tim Pool
Ian is the most appropriately dressed every time on the Show Ian.
Phil Remains
We don't have a. Listen, we don't have a dress code. If you had shown up in a suit it would have been fine. We'd have made fun of you later, but that's fine.
George Santos
I would have skateboarded.
David Pollock
You know what I told him?
George Santos
What a stiff being that shows up in a suit is a lot.
Ian Crossland
I just, I don't like the tie because I feel like it's a choke hazard. Like I just wear this.
George Santos
Hold on.
Tim Pool
So tell me, tell me more about your.
Ian Crossland
You want to get away?
George Santos
Tell me more. I.
Tim Pool
One end of the top saw the audio leak, right?
George Santos
That's awful.
Tim Pool
We'll talk about.
George Santos
No, come on, Chris season's your friend. I feel so bad, Chris.
Tim Pool
Well, we'll talk about it later. We have to talk about audio guy.
David Pollock
But you know Tim here, like you're making a. Of course you know, you're making a great point. Yeah, I'm going to make it serious because he's making a really good point. He took a long time to make it and I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean you've really. We're being intentional in this. It's that when we have all these young people who are being indoctrinated in these schools to think that Republicans suck, they're racist and this and then you have the representatives from the Republican Party come through and they look like the role they've been told and then you have women who by and large they consume their media through headlines on, on, on what is it like whatever social media pops up Yahoo. And then they go and we reinforce these stereotypes that Trudeau, Trudeau won because
Tim Pool
he was a hunk and he did the yoga handstand on the, on the table.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, I think the red pill movement.
George Santos
You know why Eric swal to win Cuz he's hot. I, I, I'm not my type but women find him attractive.
Tim Pool
See, here's the thing. I'm not like the only.
George Santos
It's not that I'm saying he's a good looking dude or what. I'm just saying like he projects like oh, I'm young, I'm hot.
Tim Pool
I'm, I'm, I'm gonna say I have no, no way to judge Gavin Wax
George Santos
is a not Gavin Wax. Oh God.
Tim Pool
When, when all the I love Gavin
George Santos
Wax Gavin news him is a problem in 28 because of that same stereotype.
Tim Pool
When all the, when all the women came out saying that Luigi man was hot or whatever.
George Santos
I don't, I, I, but you shouldn't Find him hot. I find problems.
Tim Pool
No, this is the thing.
George Santos
Like, I stay in your lane. I said, my lady.
Tim Pool
But this is the interesting thing. Like the Trudeau thing we get because he's fit and he's like a surfer guy doing yoga. But I was actually shocked that they found Luigi attractive. I understand he's fit as well, but I thought he was a goofy looking dude. He says about Swalwell. I thought he was a goofy looking dude, too. You know, every day I wake up and I'm getting ready for the day I see hotness. You know what I mean? When I look in that mirror, that would be tough.
Ian Crossland
No wonder you wear the beanie. Wait, that's back. So I think this. The red pill movement, the. What is it? Like, the trad wife movement has done a lot of damage to the people on the right. They think that you're supposed to be like a whip cracking businessman suit wearing box that the woman's inside of and can't. And like most society doesn't want that. They're not prepped.
George Santos
Your fetishes are really showing today.
Ian Crossland
Did you see.
Tim Pool
Did you see this? You know what, Ian?
George Santos
You need to come on my show so we can talk about the.
Tim Pool
Did you see the stat that.
David Pollock
More that. That young women are now preferring to be trad wives versus working women? Like feminism. There was an article like, feminism is dying because women now want to be trad.
Ian Crossland
I think it's their brain. They think they want to. Just like the men think they want to be wearing suits and ties.
George Santos
I don't think they want to.
Tim Pool
They literally want to.
Ian Crossland
I don't.
Tim Pool
I think they do.
George Santos
I don't think most men want to be in a single household income care.
Tim Pool
No, it's not about Ian. It's about status. You dress the way you do because you're seeking status and approval from a certain sect of people. The saying goes, people dress like the person they want to have sex with. Ooh, that's. That's old trope.
George Santos
That's actually.
Tim Pool
That's why you notice couples will be dressed similarly. You'll walk down the street, you'll see, like a guy and a woman, and he'll have black frame glasses. Like, she'll have the same glasses. He'll be wearing a flannel. She'll bring a flannel. My favorite thing Rachel Maddow and Mark
George Santos
Cuban want to bang each other. Is that hot?
Tim Pool
And you know what the worst thing is? How do you tell them the worst thing is when Michael Knowles gets caught up in it. But Here's a funny thing.
George Santos
Can I get sued for that?
Tim Pool
Let me tell you something. I wear the same clothes every day, right. I wear a black T shirt and jeans. I do have some other clothes that I just usually don't wear, but there will be days where my wife will put on a black T shirt and jeans, and I'm like, oh, we're coordinating today. And she goes, but we're very similar people. We like the same style. We listen to the same music. We're from the same place. It's not so much about you. It's oversimplified. When you say that people dress the way, like, the people they want to have sex with, it's basically about who is your people, who is your tribe, who do you connect with? So when you say people are being indoctrinated to wear ties or whatever. No, no, no. You're from a rock star, hippie world of liberal culture, and you dress the way. There are people that you want to notice how you dress, so you dress in an ostentatious manner.
Ian Crossland
I used to wear suits, but only because I was trying to fit in with that culture.
Tim Pool
Exactly.
Ian Crossland
And they would be like, you have to wear a suit.
George Santos
I wore suits for years.
Phil Remains
I can't.
George Santos
I hate wearing suits.
Tim Pool
Republicans. You never wore a suit even when
George Santos
you went to the White House House?
Tim Pool
No. The only time I ever wore a suit was in court. And when I. If there's one person, I will dress
Ian Crossland
up for the judge.
Tim Pool
Actually, it's not true. I wore a suit to my wedding, your honor.
George Santos
Okay, There you go.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
George Santos
I'm assuming a tux tie.
Tim Pool
Did you wear a tie, A tuxedo, a regular suit?
George Santos
For really?
Tim Pool
Yeah, for my.
Ian Crossland
I'm down with the jacket. It really is the tie. I don't like the tie.
Tim Pool
I, I wore, I wore a. I, I, I. Is it a suit? At Mar a Lago, it was a suit jacket with slasher.
George Santos
Oh, that. That's like a sports jacket.
Tim Pool
Yeah, because they have a dress code. They do have a dress code. Shoes. But the only ever time I wore suit was at court. And it's because the man who is holding a hammer over my freedom, I will wear a clown suit if he asked me to.
Ian Crossland
Of course.
Tim Pool
This is the funny thing about people. You know what?
George Santos
I kind of, like, belittled my judge because I. After a while, and I knew that she was just gonna be awful to me, I actually stopped wearing a suit, and I just started like, like throwing fashionista moments in there. I kind of Anna delved it. I Was like wearing turtlenecks, red shoes. You're gonna screw me anyway.
Tim Pool
Wanna know the secret? Suit's not the way to go. You look up their personal lives and see what they're interested in, what their hobbies are and the way they dress. And you dress like them. Make the judge see themselves in you.
George Santos
She's like an 80 year old white lady. End of Long island wear.
Tim Pool
Judges look up, look up what she was like in her 20s and what will resonate with her, with her emotion, psyche and world view.
George Santos
Yeah, I wish I knew that too.
Phil Remains
Well, no, no, don't listen. Don't listen to him. Wear a judge's robe to the, to the, the hearing.
Tim Pool
Indeed.
George Santos
And walked around.
Ian Crossland
No, no, no, no.
Tim Pool
She couldn't swear. And then underneath it have a second robe. So when she says, Mr. Santos, you must take that off, you go, oh, I'm sorry. Bedazzled. And then, and then this was actually Michael Malice's joke. Then when she says, you can't wear that either, you go, oh, I'm sorry. You take it off and it says federal boob inspector. Right.
George Santos
Like a nesting doll. Right.
Tim Pool
What are those, what are those things called? Mariushka or something?
George Santos
Matrushkas.
Tim Pool
Matrushkas.
Ian Crossland
I really, I care so much about.
David Pollock
Speak German too.
George Santos
Well, George, that's Russian.
Tim Pool
Wait, I say German. I meant Russian.
George Santos
That's Russian. I'm never gonna, I'm never gonna refute that someone.
Tim Pool
El. That's the main point.
Ian Crossland
I'm really concerned about people on the right. I don't worry too much about the dynamics of left and right. I want people to be cool. I want them to be cool and to be loved and to looked at as like culture icons. People that identify with like American freedom, like gun rights, property rights, free speech.
Tim Pool
Well, let's elaborate on this. Conservatives are trying to convince the Joe Rogans of the world. The Democrats are trying to convince the Joe Rogans. Democrats have their base. Rachel Maddow is Rachel Maddow and everyone's going to love her. On the left, left and on the right, you've got Trump or whatever this fracture is, but people on the right are going to put on their mega hats. How do you approach the middle of the road? Relaxed working class people? Yo, they're wearing jeans and T shirts. So when liberals show up wearing jeans and T shirts or having a Stanley mug, the regular. Let me pause. Sales 101. When you said you tell women, you would say like, oh, I like your nails. That's sales 101. It is so when, when we would do the street canvassing stuff, I always say this. Become the person you're approaching. If you see a guy walking towards you in a suit and you act like Ian, he will say, don't touch me. If you see a guy in a suit and you walk up upright and you reach your end to shake his hand, he'll stop and shake your hand. You have to know how to communicate with the people you're trying to target. For conservatives to approach the middle of the road, working class people in suits with ties on would be like dressing up in a clown costume.
Ian Crossland
When you're on tv, you're basically approaching them through the television.
Tim Pool
You need to be chill, quick witted and funny. Trump had a little bit of it, so he got a lot of that white working class base. But now he's in a weird space. The reason Democrats understand this and they've always understood this and the reason why I think what we're looking at right now, Gen Z right wingers are squares. They're, they're, they're like 20 year olds wearing suits. And Gen Z left are pierced, crazy clothes, wild hair. Regular people are not going to resonate with the work uniform. They might look at a weirdo, just like a weirdo and just be like, hey man, do your, do your thing, whatever. They look at a guy wearing a suit and they'll be like, it reminds me of work. I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to think about work.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, we've gotten to like a casual area era. I guess with social media now you're kind of buddies with your politician now like you know him.
George Santos
That's a problem. Well, it's, that's a problem too. I'm actually going to say this at the risk of being criticized, but politicians
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George Santos
People need to stop literally putting politicians on a pedestal and treating them like rock stars. They work for you.
David Pollock
Well, the Internet does that.
Tim Pool
But that's a problem. Obama started it, right?
David Pollock
Donald Trump. I know, but that's a problem everywhere. I think he sleeps in a suit and he's cool, like to young people. I know, but you know, saying he's still.
George Santos
I actually don't like Trump out of a suit, personally. No, no, but personally. And I'm saying this. Yeah.
Tim Pool
And.
George Santos
And I'm a big supporter of the president. I hate it when he shows up, like in the high rise pants.
David Pollock
Oh, you know, he shouldn't wear a
George Santos
bullet all the time. I actually agree with Ty with the tie hanging out of sides.
Phil Remains
I like Trump, like out of shape for that.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Joe Rogan is a UFC commentator. All the bros know Joe Rogan, not just because of his podcast, but because that we all like. UFC is fun, dude.
George Santos
UFC is amazing.
Tim Pool
It is. It is pure testosterone.
George Santos
Watching it, watching it. Octagon side is like the best thing. Like I.
Tim Pool
So.
George Santos
So here Fin alone is just like, let's go, Joe Rogan. Wrong reasons in my case, but okay.
Tim Pool
Rogan is a modest, smart sports commentator in one of the biggest sports in the world. He's extremely talented in a bunch of areas. These are the things that give him influence. He's quick witted and he's a good dude. He's a nice guy. He's funny. That's cool.
George Santos
Smart.
Tim Pool
Trump is a warrior. So a lot of people look up to him because they view him as someone who will punch you in the face. Not literally, figuratively. I don't think people look at Trump and think, when I grow up, I want to be like him. Some do, but generally speaking, they don't.
David Pollock
I think they do, though, because you got to think when we were young, I mean, I'm 45, so. But when I was young and we would play Monopoly, we'd all be like, we wanted to be Donald Trump, right? And it was because we knew him to be a billionaire, right? We was Donald Trump's.
Tim Pool
Right dude.
George Santos
I used to say, I grew up, I wanted a building with my name on it.
Goldbelly Announcer
Right.
George Santos
And if.
David Pollock
But if you. Yeah, right.
George Santos
New York City because he was the
Tim Pool
best kind of cool.
David Pollock
But then you see him as he home alone. He goes and meets Macaulay Culkin in the lobby. And, you know, Trump was always this guy in a suit, this business guy's icon. And as president, I don't think he wears the suit as a presidential candidate or as a Republican. He wears a suit because he's an accomplished businessman. So I think people look up to him for that reason, not because he's a politician.
Tim Pool
I would describe cool. Obama was cool.
George Santos
Obama.
Tim Pool
And the reason why is you've got to like him. You know, I think it's possible.
George Santos
Great orator, too. Let's not. Let's just face it. Like, I can't stand the guy, but he's a great orator.
Tim Pool
Obama's the guy in a conversation who's going to respond with, oh, no, no, no, listen up. You want to come at me? I'll tell you what's up. And then it's like a confident chill. Hey, man, Trump is the. No, we're going to tell you what you know. You're stupid and fat. He's aggressive and strong, and people like that. But cool is kind of different. Different Cool is a combination. Like, how do you define cool?
George Santos
Right?
Tim Pool
I define it as relaxed, witty, charismatic. Trump is not relaxed. He is witty and charismatic and strong, which is a different.
George Santos
But then again, there's. There's instances when you're trying to be so cool. And I'm going to go way back to 2012 hype of the birther movement. Obama goes on Jimmy Fallon and does, you know, the read mean tweets about you. And it. It's Trump saying, president Obama is the stupidest president in history. And then Obama was like, at least I'll go down as a president. That was off the phone.
Tim Pool
Well, that age like milk
Phil Remains
for Barack Obama. We wouldn't have Donald Trump.
Ian Crossland
I thank him every day.
George Santos
Thank you, Mr. President. You gave us Trump.
Tim Pool
I want to stress this. Democrats are not cool either.
George Santos
They're not.
Tim Pool
The issue, though, is they have purchased cool. So Rachel Maddow is not cool. She's a nerd. Chris Hayes is a nerd. And he's in the Boys. Did you see this? Oh, my God.
Phil Remains
God. I can't. The fifth season.
Tim Pool
Yeah. And I want to touch it when you. If they removed all the political stuff from the Boys. Awesome show.
Phil Remains
It'd be great. Yeah, it was great the first two, maybe three seasons. No, once it got. Once it got. Once it got very clear. That's too real politics.
George Santos
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Oh, the First. The first season was just like, superheroes
George Santos
one and two was great. Season three lost me, and I got the politics.
David Pollock
They really never showed.
Tim Pool
Do you remember when Laura Loomer was in the.
George Santos
I don't.
Tim Pool
Let me show you.
George Santos
She was in the show.
Tim Pool
Yes.
Phil Remains
Well, it was a character based on Laura.
George Santos
Okay. You see, it went over my head.
Phil Remains
Let me show you why.
George Santos
Oh, my God.
Ian Crossland
Did you get the.
George Santos
Speaking of Laura. Hold on. Speaking of Laura Loomer. Yes. Okay.
Tim Pool
This is the Boys.
George Santos
She.
Tim Pool
Her name is Stormfront. She's a Neo Nazi. And instantly we were. Everybody was like, oh, that's bro. Yeah, they. And she's like, a big fan of Homelander. Yeah.
George Santos
Yeah, bro.
Tim Pool
Congratulations to Laura. Like, nailed it.
George Santos
I. I will say this.
Tim Pool
I need a Milo.
Phil Remains
It's funny that they named her Storm Front, considering she's Storm Front and it's a Neo Nazi. Like, she's a light man. That's the thing. It got so on the nose, and it was just like, all right, I'm not lost in the story. I'm not like, it's. There's so many references to reality.
George Santos
They lose us. Do you know a show that lost me after. I. I'm embarrassed to say this, but after 17 loyal seasons, Law and Order. No. It got very, very, very unbearable to watch. Was Grey's Anatomy. Look at this.
Phil Remains
I didn't much it.
Tim Pool
Look, Laura Loomer, really political.
George Santos
Yeah.
Tim Pool
She said, I know you're trying to be funny, but in all seriousness, Stormfront in the Boys was literally modeled after me. Aya Cash's character is based off me. By their own admission to the New Yorker, they thought they were being clever since I had short black hair, but I'm Jewish, so. What does it say? It says there's allegations that she's not
George Santos
Jewish and she's a friend. But I'm saying, yeah, well, Milo says that up and down.
Tim Pool
She's not Jewish. Because you have fans. I have soldiers, Storm Fronts. Passing resemblance to the far right conspiracy theorist. Laura Loomer is not incidental, but careful not to infringe on anyone's intellectual property. There was a. You know, it's a really crazy story is there was a show based off Occupy Wall Street. Do you remember what that show was?
George Santos
I don't.
Tim Pool
So let me pull this up, tell you a wild story about Buddy of mine. What show was based on Occupy Wall Street?
George Santos
While you're on the subject, Laura Loomer's been having a rough week on why
David Pollock
X are you playing with. You just feel like playing with fire.
George Santos
I mean, no, she's a friend. I mean, Roger Stone has been going really hardcore.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, he's talking about weed legalization, isn't he?
Tim Pool
Huh?
David Pollock
No, they were talking about.
George Santos
Oh, he's gone. He's gone on Laura.
David Pollock
Like it was about Tulsi Gabbard and all kinds of stuff.
George Santos
It's hard.
David Pollock
Tim, you were making an interesting point
George Santos
before you at the beginning chose Fire.
Tim Pool
American Odyssey.
George Santos
Oh, great.
Tim Pool
So there was. So there was a character in. No, no, you're good.
David Pollock
Go ahead.
Tim Pool
There was a character named Harrison in that show who was a one four one of my friend Harrison from Occupy Wall Street.
Ian Crossland
Harrison Sura.
Tim Pool
No.
Ian Crossland
Oh, different Harrison.
Tim Pool
Harrison Schultz. Harrison. I get your name wrong.
Ian Crossland
I think that's. His name is Sora Harrison who he came and worked with.
Tim Pool
Right, right, right.
David Pollock
Oh, yeah.
George Santos
So.
Tim Pool
So Harrison. Good dude. Smart guy. He's an anarchist. He was a moderately prominent figure during Occupy. NBC made a show called American Odyssey where they had an Occupy angle and they cast an actor identical to him, had him on the show named Harrison. And he couldn't do anything. He couldn't stop him from doing it. He was getting attacked by people being like, you sold your likeness f you. And he was like, I have nothing to.
Ian Crossland
And Schultz. Yeah, we should pump him up because he's awesome, dude.
Tim Pool
He's a good dude.
Ian Crossland
Enough to make a character of a
Tim Pool
TV show out of like, I know,
Ian Crossland
dances, Capio pia and stuff.
Tim Pool
Capodista.
Ian Crossland
Is that what it's called?
Tim Pool
He likes around the world?
George Santos
Capoeirista.
David Pollock
We're kind of translators.
George Santos
Which is Capoeira. It's a Brazilian. It's a Brazilian. Marshall Zarge.
David Pollock
Russian.
Tim Pool
Brazilian. His name is Tesora.
George Santos
Oh, interesting.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
George Santos
Is he Brazilian?
Ian Crossland
Well, Harrison might be his middle name.
Tim Pool
No, that's his. That's his cop wearer name.
George Santos
Oh, that's it. Very cool.
Ian Crossland
I don't know if he's Brazilian. We.
Tim Pool
I don't think so.
George Santos
Next time you'd be shocked at the amount of Schultz that there is in Brazil.
Tim Pool
I would not shock. What were you going to say?
David Pollock
Yeah, earlier you were. Two things is tied us all together from the pre show to now. You said the Democrats were buying cool.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
David Pollock
And you also talked about Billboard screwing you when you're making good music and they didn't want to give you the attention.
George Santos
That's right.
David Pollock
That is not so much buying cool too is the media is giving them cool. Everything you hear on the radio is what the big business says. This is what's cool, guys.
Tim Pool
Yes, yes. But they're Buying it. And finally the Jews figured it out. I love, I love, I love how they're like, the Jews control everything. Well, apparently not because the media is all in line. Like you're talking about Candace getting a maybe ABC show.
George Santos
Yeah.
Tim Pool
The Ellisons are stepping up.
George Santos
And then there's Bob Iger who's also involved and he's. I don't understand how, how does he reconcile those two things? Like I'm gonna put Candace Owens here who's a. A rabid anti.
David Pollock
Because that's what they want people to believe.
Tim Pool
She'll say whatever they tell her to say. But now you've got the Ellison's buying up Paramount and they're going to buy Warner Brothers. So now they're going to own cnn. Don't be surprised.
George Santos
Panicking. Panicking.
Tim Pool
I don't think so.
George Santos
They're freaking out. I have two friends who work in the newsroom.
Tim Pool
They're.
George Santos
The entire newsroom is like, we need to start putting job applications. We need to unionize while we still can. They're losing their mind, bro.
Tim Pool
Could you imagine? Like. So the Ellison's Larry and David are. They're MAGA.
George Santos
They're MAGA.
Tim Pool
And they, they now own Ultramaga. Ultramaga, TikTok and CBS. And Barry, I think has been doing great at CBS and they are going after her like crazy.
Ian Crossland
Is this why MAGA has now transformed into technocratic.
George Santos
No.
Ian Crossland
Movement.
George Santos
No, no, no. MAGA has finally acquired a slither of Hollywood institutional power. And institutional power for the first time in a decade.
David Pollock
That's the secret.
George Santos
11 years, I guess 2015 to now.
Ian Crossland
Why did they.
Tim Pool
Well, because we're losing the culture.
George Santos
We've lost the culture war because they controlled all of Hollywood, all of, all of the institutions. And we had who. Jamie Dimon, who at best, at best is a right of center moderate.
David Pollock
Can I make a quick analogy?
George Santos
As conservative as we can get, or. Or Schwartz over at Blackstone, that was as good as it could get. Steve Schwartz and Jamie Diamond.
David Pollock
Well, let me make a quick illustration. And I have media. I showed this to my kids because I wanted to show them when they were younger how they could be manipulated by the media. So they knew when they were being manipulated, it was important. And so we were watching America's Got Talent and I was showing them. I said, I want you to see something that television can do that's really clever that make you like somebody or not somebody based on the reactions they show and the way people react to things. So I showed them. I said, watch. They want this Guy. Because remember, these shows are pre taped and then there's a live show and they need people to vote. And like, well, how do they know? What they do in post is they go, okay, let's take the reactions. Favorable reactions for these people, negative reactions for these people, even though they all made it through. So when the live show comes, they have control over who wins. And I said, do you see how they're being manipulated? Go watch. This person comes up. You might not think they're very good, but the person in the audience that they're showing is like crying tears, people exciting or the judges hitting the golden buzzer. So what you're seeing is society and social sort of validation. Okay? This person's good, this person's cool. And that happens in real life all the time in media. Because if you, if you're a trans person and you're on Disney, they're saying, this person's cool. And so what do you have a bunch of kids doing running around going, this is cool, I'm trans. And that is what Hollywood has done. That's what television has done, what news has done. And so by us buying or at least getting a share of it, we can make us cool. Which goes to your original point is the perception of cool has been defined by people who hate us.
Tim Pool
I want to stress this too with Carter here. We put out a bunch of songs. I think six of eight, like, charted on Billboard in some capacity. Yeah, the first song we put out was Only Ever Wanted and I think it caught the machine off guard. Oh, yeah, they. They did not know how to react to the fact that we put out a song. Well, so first, the first song I put out was Will of the People a couple years before I started working with Carter. Then we put out Only Ever Wanted and we charted on. On everything. I think it was like number two on alt. It was number one on alt. Number one on alt. We beat Taylor Swift in sales. On.
George Santos
We just started talking music and Ian's hatches emotional support guitar.
Tim Pool
So here's what happened. Instantly we got attacked by all the liberals.
George Santos
You're kidding.
Tim Pool
They started, I don't want to name the individual, so don't say his name, but.
George Santos
Oh, come on, name names.
Tim Pool
Everybody knows this guy's gonna give him extra, extra airtime. He intentionally. His people intentionally ran through like a low pass filter to make the song sound like a demo, like, bad. And then they made fun of it. They did everything they could to attack what is just generally an apolitical song that did really well. And there Were a lot of people, we got a lot of, we got a lot of credit for it that were not political and didn't know who I was. When our PR person reached out to entertainment publications, they told us to go F ourselves. They intentionally, they emailed back saying F you mega chud, things like that.
Ian Crossland
You know what?
Tim Pool
So real quick, this is because they, they need to control cool and culture and they would not let us get a foothold. So this actually the song did so well. My Will of the People ended up charting after the fact that because people then started buying up the other song and it reached number 17 on Alt, I think. So then we put out several more songs and every time we would, for some reason we did a snag that would prevent the Billboard charting. And the last major release that we did, well, actually not the second to last was Together Again, which sold like 40,000 singles in a week, has like 15 million streams in. Well, I think I like 8 million streams in the first week. All of that should have tracked and put us somewhere in the Hot 100. The like the Cadillac of the Billboard. We coordinate with all these companies. They told us what to do. We said we will do it before. During. We said before, tell us what to do. Do this. Okay, During. Is everything good? Every day.
George Santos
Every single day.
Tim Pool
I got receipts, emails every day. Are we doing it correctly this time? Yes, you are. Steve, is this being tracked? Yes, it is. This will count. Yes, it will. And then when it ended, they said, said, oops, you made a mistake. So we did not reach the charts where we should have. And this is a team up with the Daily Wire. We did this. It is a machine meant to keep outsiders out. They control what's cool. And if you don't bend the knee, you are not in. That's why Hollywood celebrities, that's why Hollywood celebrities go up their award shows and then say things like, oh, climate change,
George Santos
stolen land, living on stolen land.
Ian Crossland
They can't control what's cool, but they can control who, what you see. And so you can't fabricate cool with a, with a nice suit. If you're not confident, you're not cool.
Tim Pool
And when you have, you can prevent
Ian Crossland
people from seeing cool. And what these gatekeepers have seemed to
Tim Pool
have done sometimes let's not even talk about us. Let's make it about somebody else. Tom McDonald, who hits it out of the ballpark every release he should be charting on Billboard with every song and they keep him out. They told him that they won't track his album sales for no reason. He had. He had a bunch of albums. Those don't count account. That's what they do because it's a. It's made now with CBS purchase. I don't know the opinions of the Ellisons. Never met them. Maybe they don't like me. Maybe they do. But it seems like there is now a path towards access to audience they. That the. The totally control. It's like the Hungry Hungry Hippo thing because like the first time our YouTube streams didn't count as streams like they should have with Only Ever Wanted and we still charted. So I was like trying to knock that one out. And then as I'm doing that, they're changing a rule of over here. Not just that Only Ever wanted was on YouTube trending. Yeah. And so was Genocide, the first two songs that we put out. And then all of a sudden they stopped. So they booted us off Band Camp right after Genocide. They banned us. We were. They deleted our Band Camp account for no reason. We broke no rules. These songs are not political. Only Ever Wanted is basically just a song about a guy whose wife died.
David Pollock
I know you're perceived to be political and therefore you're not allowed to have a voice.
Tim Pool
Yeah. But then look, your politics don't align with theirs. But here's a.
George Santos
Here's the interesting thing. And Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood, for instance, they're.
Tim Pool
They're legacy.
George Santos
They are legacy. And they can't. Look at the Country Music Awards. I. I forget what they're called. Is that what they're called? Country music awards? CMAs, the MAS or whatever. They're both on there all the time and there's nothing nobody can do. And Carrie Underwood besties with them and like.
David Pollock
But Beyonce is the country artist of the Year.
George Santos
That's. Yeah. Because her husband.
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Tim Pool
Well, this is changing. And I'm. It's funny. This is the weirdest thing. Barry Weiss is a genius. She's the.
George Santos
The.
Tim Pool
The intellectual dark web 2.0 effectively right. I certainly think there's grounds for criticism of her. Nobody's perfect, but she's been doing a fantastic job with cbs.
George Santos
Amazing.
Tim Pool
They've been covering the Medicaid, Medicare fraud stuff that Nick Shirley got highlighted heavily in December. So they're picking that up. They're not overtly right wing or pro Trump. They've been doing a decent job. When, when the story from Nick Shirley broke, they didn't say he's a liar or grifter. They said, actually, look at this. Corroborating evidence of arrests and DOJ investigations. So I've been a big fan of what they're doing. But look at what the left and the corporate press is doing. Look at what Megyn Kelly is doing. Why, why are, why are these people attacking Barry Weiss all of a sudden? What did she do?
George Santos
Oh, Megyn Kelly sour.
Tim Pool
Barry Weiss did one thing and she did. She tweeted that she was a proud Zionist. There you go, Barry Weiss. Because when you look at the work at cbs, nothing stands out. I read CBS every day when I'm doing the news. Some stories I think are not done too well, some I think are doing well. I think she's changing it for the better, but there's nothing where she's like going on there. There's no stories that are overtly political.
Ian Crossland
What's the final goal of Zionism, homeland
Tim Pool
for the Jews in Israel?
Ian Crossland
Is that. Do they talk about how big it's going to be?
Tim Pool
No, no.
Phil Remains
Ian's worried about Greater Israel.
Ian Crossland
Don't they have a homeland for the Jews in Israel right now?
George Santos
Not without fights and war and.
Tim Pool
Yeah, there's a peaceful.
George Santos
Yeah, peaceful, peaceful country.
Tim Pool
I would argue that Zionism. Zionism does not assert peaceful, brutal, vengeful, any of that. It's just literally a homeland. Having a homeland for the Jews in uncontest.
George Santos
Uncontested.
Tim Pool
Exactly. That's. That's what I mean. So with the west, without any disputes,
George Santos
because like of Judea, Samaria, West Bank.
Ian Crossland
We'll take it from an American, there's going to be contests forever about who, who was there first? Just so you know.
Tim Pool
Well, well, it was the Jews.
Ian Crossland
Well, before that it was the Canaanites.
Phil Remains
Oh, God, where are the Canaanites now? Where are the Canaanites now? Are they fighting?
David Pollock
Where are the dinosaurs? They were there.
Tim Pool
But here's the point, Ian. I agree. If the Canaanites were there and assert making assertions in the land, we'd have a conflict, but they don't. So the groups are the, the Palestinians who were There at the time of the mandate. And some, some of the people who are there actually are Jews and Arabic Israelis. But then there were a lot of people who migrated to Israel and purchased land because of a lot of conflicts in Europe. So everyone's going to claim their rights.
George Santos
Are you saying that the only. So the Jews who have the. Sorry to cut you off, but the Jews who have the claim are the Sephardic Jews, not the Ashkenazi Jews from Europe who essentially invaded. Is that, is that the.
Tim Pool
No, no, I'm not saying that because.
George Santos
No, no, I'm not saying. You're saying. I'm saying. But that's the, the great greater.
Tim Pool
So, so the, the. The greater dispute is. Is too massive and intertwined to even begin to untangle because then you can
George Santos
talk about Bukharian Jews which I think have been there before the Sephardic.
Ian Crossland
What is it?
George Santos
Well, like an Afghan Jew.
Tim Pool
Right, but so one of, one of the issues is the left argues that the Palestinians are the Jews that after Islam took over and forced the Jews to either flee or convert. The argument is the Jews who fled to Europe are the descendants of those who. Who refused to convert and the Palestinians are the Jews who gave in to the sword. And so this dispute is actually from many liberals argument a dispute of the return of the Jews to land that has since changed and they have no right to claim.
George Santos
Cool.
Tim Pool
Whereas many of the Jews are like, no, we never gave in.
Phil Remains
I mean a lot of this is. Is post colonial theory too in practice because they look at like they look at the astronauts Jews as white Europeans that have invaded the land.
George Santos
Y.
Phil Remains
And so it's, it's the colonization of a. An indigenous people. It's the same kind of stuff that you get when you hear people doing land acknowledgments here in the States or in Canada. It's the same kind of stuff that you hear about all over. All over Africa.
George Santos
But then listen to what Tim just said, right? A lot of those Ashkanazis are actually the descendants of the Jews who refused to.
Phil Remains
Yeah, but they're not.
George Santos
They're returning home.
Phil Remains
Yeah, but the left.
George Santos
But I understand what you're saying.
Phil Remains
The left of the left left, the modern left of today that is aligned
George Santos
with it as an invading force.
Phil Remains
The, the dynamic that they see is always the. It's the powerful versus the.
Tim Pool
But not really there's anti white.
Phil Remains
Well, I mean that is true, but that, but that's what post colonial theory is. There's just anti.
Tim Pool
But but I'm saying like the argument that it's the oppressor versus the oppressed is just the skin they put over. We don't like people.
Phil Remains
Yes.
George Santos
That's the only non white person here.
Tim Pool
That's not true.
Phil Remains
What are you, Italian?
George Santos
No, not even quite literally. Ethnic. Ethnically speaking, 32% Angolan and the rest is like Eastern European. Like depends on the country.
Phil Remains
Shut up.
Tim Pool
Just.
George Santos
Huh?
David Pollock
Depends on the.
Tim Pool
No, no, no. Hold on, hold on. If you support Trump, you're white. If you don't, you're mixed.
Ian Crossland
The white's kind of out of the white. When we, when we split off.
Phil Remains
Too much of a queen to be anything.
Ian Crossland
12,000 years ago. My theory on the whites is like 12,000 years ago, after the flood, all of humanity was there in Mesopotamia. A bunch of them went north where it's just not a lot of sunlight. It was bright white, so their skin got lighter. And then they had to hunt because they couldn't grow crops. So they got all lizard like and bloodthirsty. Then they came back south like 8,000 years later, rotted. All these.
Phil Remains
Bro, just yesterday we were talking about how there are chimpanzees that are having a civil war. It has nothing to do with how
George Santos
they got blood lust. Nothing to do with.
Ian Crossland
They got bloodlust because they had to hunt. They came back with that, that bloodlust in their world, like momentum.
Tim Pool
Ready for this one? Do you guys know about out of Africa theory?
George Santos
No.
Phil Remains
To some degree.
George Santos
No, not at all.
Tim Pool
This is the. It's an old theory that humans emerged in Africa and then traveled around and through environmental pressures. Different races emerged. However, it's being challenged now because human remains have been found in the Americas and in Asia that predate the out of Africa theory. Which proves one thing.
George Santos
Oh, hold on.
Tim Pool
It proves the Great Flood theory, or
George Santos
would it go back that there were humans during Pangea?
Tim Pool
Maybe this is the Great Flood theory.
George Santos
Okay, that.
Tim Pool
The Adam and Eve theory is that every 6,500 years, the Earth tilts 90 degrees from a pole shift happening, and then the, the core spins and flips. Then the Earth tilts, the poles go to the equator, causing all the water wrap around making a big flood that wipes everything out. If a great flood happened, what would you see in the fossil record for humanity? You'd see humans emerging all over the planet the exact same time. Because the survivors in their key locations emerge from whatever survival, you know, fortress or whatever mountain, wherever they're at, and start rebuilding. So then you see, there's no records of humans anywhere, just in these key locations. Appearing all at once.
Ian Crossland
And then you get whitey and whitey comes back with a vengeance because whitey thirsty for blood.
George Santos
Oh, God.
David Pollock
It's funny.
Ian Crossland
That's where. That's why the northerners are water.
George Santos
It's actually funny that they're hydrated.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Actually the Asians are.
Phil Remains
Look at crime statistics. They're the whitey is not whitey built society. Whitey is not thirsty for blood. That's literally what you just said.
Ian Crossland
I think that because they couldn't grow crops up north, they learned to hunt and they came back with a hunter's mentality.
George Santos
No, I think you're wrong.
Tim Pool
You are completely wrong. Look at the Mediterranean. They have siesta. Yeah.
Ian Crossland
They lay around and sleep in midday when these are like sharpening their swords, getting ready. You are wrong for the winter.
Tim Pool
You are just so wrong.
Ian Crossland
I don't think so.
Phil Remains
Think so. White people are not more like white
Ian Crossland
people with the Mongol, with the lizard
George Santos
people, con with like.
Tim Pool
No, no. This is anti white Marxist fake news.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, well, this I'm trying to.
Tim Pool
The theory is that humans emerged in Africa, traveled around the world, and then due to various pressures became specific. He thinks that all white people are
George Santos
like Genghis Khan here.
Tim Pool
Right. So here's the point. Genghis Khan kill. Genghis Khan conquers a continent. Native Americans who Asians who crossed the Bering Strait into the Americas were less violent, mostly because of how expansive the Americas were. So they didn't procreate enough to the point where social population pressures would start to factor in. The idea is that winter created a group of people that worked harder than they needed to. So what happens is people move up north due to prox. They're constantly looking for new place where they can find food. Then a group of humans are in the north where winter comes. Those who were overworked and prepared for the winter survive. And those who didn't die, those people have kids and you create a culture of I have to work all the time, no matter what. These people then moved further south back to the Mediterranean where food was more abundant, but maintained that I must work all the time, no matter what.
Ian Crossland
They call them the sea peoples.
Tim Pool
So what happens is you have two. You have two groups of people right now. Those who sleep in the middle of the day for siesta because it's warm and there's food and fruit everywhere and they can fish whenever they want. And those who came back down and said, I have to keep working. The theory is this is where mathematics is born. Born humans sitting around with no work left to do but wanting to work. Started exploring and working on problems they didn't need to. And this creates technology.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. The Greeks, that makes a lot of sense.
Tim Pool
The Romans, that's the theory about why they started doing math and research and philosophy. Because they were a work. They were an industrious people without the requirement for industry.
Ian Crossland
I think that's where. Because the. I'm not saying all white people, but the northerners that did that, like we
George Santos
did say white people that you were
Ian Crossland
just referencing that have gone white.
Tim Pool
White.
Ian Crossland
Well, I'll say it again.
Tim Pool
Then the jihadis came and started massacring everybody through Northern Africa and into Eastern Europe. That's with Spain.
Ian Crossland
That's future forward though, like back in the day. Oh, that's like, that's like 700 AD or 800 AD, but in like 1200
George Santos
BC 4000, I'm talking 1400s.
Phil Remains
4000 BC.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, like during the Egyptians, like all those northerners that were like, you know, the Maraud, 1600 BC is when the sea peoples arrived through. And they just came and they just migrated. They changed the entire demographic of the, of the Middle east basically in 16. And no one knows where they came from. Assumedly the north.
George Santos
Okay, Mr. One Liner, fleeing famine and stuff.
David Pollock
You mentioned something that made my mind go somewhere and that seems to be how we're doing this. So you talked about people being busy versus people having free time. And the free time people were thinking people. And then you think about where we are now and all of the distraction with technology and the fact that we, we are constantly occupying our mind with nonsense which keeps us from actually thinking. And if you look at the people who started this country, they were thinking people. Right? And if you look at the people in ancient Greece, like you mentioned, they're thinking people. And it almost seems like people who want to control everything is figured out. All they have to do is keep us busy working. So both the man and the wife are working constantly. You can't afford anything. We live in a world where you can't stop working, even though technology that we've created theoretically should free our time. But I think the people in power don't want to free our minds because if we free our minds, we would see that this whole thing is nonsense and BS and we've been controlled the whole time. So you're talking about something that's so interesting. And then the sea people, of course,
Tim Pool
we're chickens in a chicken coop, man. Yeah, I agree with that. And the people that run the show, presidents, politicians who have Access to classified information. They're sitting there being like, these people have no idea what's going on.
David Pollock
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
George Santos
So on purpose. So many topics. Yeah. So I get looped into and people want to talk about aliens.
David Pollock
Got to talk about the aliens.
George Santos
And I don't talk about that because that was opiens. But that was a hot topic in 23. We were briefed up the.
Phil Remains
You were in Congress. What do you know?
George Santos
I can't say. Not without the risk of being.
Tim Pool
Okay, well done. Let's change the subject.
Phil Remains
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Do you want to tell me a fantasy story about wizards and elves?
George Santos
No.
Ian Crossland
We to need.
George Santos
You should ask Matt Gates to come here and talk about breeding Me.
Tim Pool
Tell me. Make up a story about how the Great Wizard Council went to the Council of Mages to explain invading orcs.
George Santos
All I can say is there's so much information that politicians operate with that the general public do not have the slightest iota of what's going on. And they form opinion. Hold on. They form opinion based on what if isms or. Because there are people on the Internet like Candace Owens, who says, I have a source or even look. And a friend of mine, Jack Basobian.
Ian Crossland
Dick, I.
George Santos
My sources tell me this. And then you have Ed and Brian Krasny. My sources tell me this. At the end of the day, it's all that. None of this stuff. I'm sorry, I gotta.
David Pollock
You didn't read the rules.
Tim Pool
Do you believe in aliens? You're not gonna tell me any classified information either.
David Pollock
You do?
George Santos
I do. Yes, I do.
Ian Crossland
You think like when you.
Phil Remains
When you say aliens do. Are you saying that you.
George Santos
Out of this Earth. So you believe. Yes.
Phil Remains
Do you believe that there have been intelligence?
George Santos
Communication.
Phil Remains
Communication. Human from another.
David Pollock
From another planet, from space or another dimension?
Tim Pool
That's a. I believe there has been.
George Santos
I believe there has been communication. I believe there has been communication between the humans and another intelligent life form. That is Permanent location. Yeah, exactly. From outside of this planet.
Ian Crossland
They're actually ins. They're both outside and inside. They're inside this. That's what they'll tell you if you ask them. Where are you?
Tim Pool
They're called shadow. Sometimes when you're out of the corner of your eye, you see them for a brief moment because that's when they're passing through our frame of time.
Ian Crossland
You know. And I've smoked DMT twice.
Tim Pool
Stop saying that.
George Santos
Because I have floaters in my eyes and I'm gonna think it's shadow function. Diabetes.
Tim Pool
George.
Phil Remains
You talk
George Santos
after I'm here with all these lights. I Have a ton of floaters in my eyes. I'm gonna think it's shadow people.
Ian Crossland
You can melt them away with sunlight.
Tim Pool
Just take.
Ian Crossland
Sunlight will melt them away. George. So just take it with your eyes.
Phil Remains
George. My take, my take on it is as far as we know, according to physics, right? You know, the, the physics that Einstein has, has left us with you. The speed of light is. This is the, is the speed limit of the universe. It's not just the speed of light. It is the speed of causation, cause and effect. That's why grab. If, if the sun disappeared, it wouldn't be just. It wouldn't just take eight minutes for the light to get here. It would take eight minutes for the gravitational effects to happen. I don't believe that there's anything that has traveled faster than light because it's the speed of causation according to the physics we know. Do you believe that there are, there are physics that we have not found?
David Pollock
Yes.
Phil Remains
Okay, all right.
George Santos
There are physics that.
David Pollock
All right.
George Santos
There are physics. I, I, I, Albert Einstein, probably smartest mind in, in, in, in physics history
David Pollock
before you came along.
George Santos
Oh, yeah, excuse my chops in physics, right, Professor PhD here. No to your question. I believe that there are quantum quantitative physics that are completely alien to the.
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George Santos
to the human being at the civilian level. Okay, that's, that's where I. What does that mean at the civilian level?
Tim Pool
Like they're, they're private companies that have technologies we've not seen or no government well, they're.
Phil Remains
Yeah, I mean, they're.
George Santos
They're civilian. I mean, the government has access to technology. It is not yet, or does not believe the world population is yet ready to.
Phil Remains
That makes sense. That makes sense.
George Santos
That is a fact.
Phil Remains
That makes sense. That because they're.
Tim Pool
That's why the scientists are dying and disappearing.
Phil Remains
Well, that makes sense because the. There are ideas.
Tim Pool
No, they're civilian scientists getting close to, like. So there are a lot of stories about Brazilian.
George Santos
Sorry, hold on.
Tim Pool
Did you see the Brazilian? Let me. Let me make this point.
Phil Remains
I just want to get one point out. There are ideas. There were ideas that were. That were born classified. It's what they talked about with the Manhattan Project and in physics, there. There are ideas and theories that are born classified. So as soon as they're. As soon as they're thought up, the government says that's classified. You can't tell anyone. So I understand what you're saying, so
Tim Pool
let me not make my point. There are a lot of stories about scientists who were killed, missing, had their research stolen from them. That is when you are up here technologically and humans are down here and we're. And, you know, I want you to imagine it like a Christmas tree covered in lights where only one light is on at a time. So it's blinking.
George Santos
Yep.
Tim Pool
It's very easy to snip those lights out like a whack a mole. But as time goes on, communications expand. The speed at which the lights start popping up start rapidly increasing.
George Santos
You don't whack them fast enough and you're whacked.
Tim Pool
Nine in the past few months. And people start noticing.
George Santos
Yep. Well, look, I'll put it this way. Brazilian doctor and scientists in Brazil just invented a shot that and a treatment that will make a paraplegic walk again.
Tim Pool
Literally.
George Santos
This is happening right now. There is a treatment. It's now amply available in Brazil. They've put six different people are walking again that have not walked in decades and are doing physical therapy because now they have full control and sensation of their limbs. Right. She went awol. I think it was three days ago.
Tim Pool
Really?
David Pollock
I want to.
Tim Pool
Are you pulling this story?
George Santos
Yeah, that's her.
Tim Pool
A Brazilian scientist. Experimental paralysis therapy is fueling hope and hype. Yep. Spinal cord injections. It's wild. Her name is Bruno Drummond. Is that her name? No, no, that's. No, no, no. That's the person who was.
George Santos
No, no, that's the. That's the page.
Tim Pool
Tatiana.
George Santos
What is she. So look at that Russian name. Tatiana.
Ian Crossland
Would you know, I'll tell you what, she's injecting.
George Santos
Oh. I mean, I didn't get into the whole thing, but apparently it's a very vulgar drug that's been ample available. But she just tweaked it and experimented with it.
Tim Pool
And I mean, there's a lot of people claiming this. Look at this. But she's missing.
George Santos
Apparently three days ago, she went awol, according to Brazilian news sources.
Tim Pool
Really?
George Santos
Like, where is Tatiana? Like, that was kind of like the. She's been radio silent or something bizarre.
Ian Crossland
Maybe she's working for the government now.
George Santos
See, people, I mean, look, like I said, and then going back to, to. To what we were talking about. So when, when you hear Matt Gaetz, I mean, obviously, and I can say this, I can refute this. I did not get briefed on humanoids and, and cross breeding. I thought that was a wild statement. I actually thought that was an April Fool's joke for a hot minute there. Because it was an interview posted on April 1st.
Tim Pool
Day before, though it was posted the day before.
George Santos
Oh, was it? Oh, because I only saw it on
Tim Pool
news, picked it up the next day.
George Santos
Oh, okay. So that's why I was like, I think this is just an April Fool's joke. But then again, it's serious. I spoke to Tim Burchett the other day, who's dear friend and is a.
Tim Pool
Did he grab you and shake you and say, george, George. The real brother.
George Santos
Big G. I got to tell you something. No.
Tim Pool
So we're actually going to be. Dang gumit.
George Santos
But we're going to be talking about this topic on my podcast next week. And it's crazy because it's a topic that's not going away. And I don't think there's a way for the government to keep putting a lid on any of this anymore.
Ian Crossland
There's two aspects of this.
George Santos
There's no lid. There's no. What Tim just said is so spot on with the connectivity aspect. Manhattan Project was so easy to keep hush hush on most. And even then we failed. Think about it.
Tim Pool
But it was compartmentalized to a degree where no one really knew what was going on. But some. But people knew something was happening. Was it 300,000 people.
George Santos
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Working on this project. And they compartmentalized all the information.
George Santos
40% of them were foreigners.
Ian Crossland
And now like AI data breach makes that near.
Tim Pool
That's what we need the H1BS for.
Ian Crossland
So that's a great.
George Santos
That is a great commercial on why not to do H1BS if we did not have foreigners working on the Manhattan Project. Nobody would have figured out nuclear weaponry at least. Least not so fast because they essentially stole of artwork.
David Pollock
But we wouldn't have figured it out either.
George Santos
No, we would have.
Ian Crossland
You know, my two takes on aliens is you've got your chimera. We would have you get your chimeras, which is what you're talking about. Human animal hybrids, which I think they are working on and they may be using to the Humanz. Yeah, you get stuff like that.
Tim Pool
Like you know, about the humanity.
Ian Crossland
But animal hybrids. And then the other aspect is if there are like what they call, they call them like.
George Santos
Stop what you're doing, Tim. You know what you're doing.
Ian Crossland
Dmt, spirit elves. They say that there's like Personas that you can perceive with other. If those things are real, there may have built technologies that can tune in and listen and talk to them, communicate with them.
David Pollock
Can we pause for one second? Go back to what he said?
Tim Pool
The humans.
Ian Crossland
You talk about the spirit realm. This is another thing.
David Pollock
We'll talk about mirrors real quick because you said I don't want to. And then we can go to Humanz because I'm dying to know about this. You talked about, you talked about Einstein and the rules. Yeah, I think those are the reason why nobody has disproven Einstein's theories and rules. The math always works, but it works in the world in which they apply.
Phil Remains
Yeah.
David Pollock
So that is that, that is the limit to them. They work in our universe.
Phil Remains
Well, okay, so.
David Pollock
Doesn't mean they work in other ones.
Phil Remains
Well, okay, so that's a different universe. Would be a different. Would be a different thing. So as far as we know and only talking about what we know. That's why I asked if there was stuff that George or if George believed that there was.
George Santos
Believe.
Phil Remains
Yeah, believe. I'm being careful with my, with my articulation. If there was stuff that George believed that we have yet to discover or
David Pollock
that no, I think we've discovered.
Phil Remains
Well, but that's the problem with that question.
Tim Pool
Answer to. To any reasonable person is always going to be yes. It's just not a question needs to be asked.
Phil Remains
Well, I mean, as of right now, there haven't been any significant public discoveries. That's not true in physics.
George Santos
It's not true.
Phil Remains
I said public.
Tim Pool
Public.
George Santos
No, it's not.
Tim Pool
Yeah, what about the.
George Santos
But you just got to read some tunnel project Artemis 2 right now.
Tim Pool
Zero point propulsion.
George Santos
Well, not. Okay, sure, but let's talk about Artemis 2 right now. Why did. For those. I know that I don't know what crowd this is but do you believe. Do you believe we've gone to the moon? Yes or no?
Ian Crossland
Yes.
George Santos
Okay, great.
Ian Crossland
So generally, I've had some really smart people tell me they don't think so, which is weird.
Phil Remains
He's gonna drive it off the road every time.
Ian Crossland
I haven't seen proof either way, but I was definitely bought in.
Tim Pool
All right, so have you. We talked about the zero point propulsion thing when the story came out.
George Santos
I think I was here for that.
Tim Pool
Yeah, you might have been. What they do is they fire.
George Santos
I always talk about aliens in tech when I'm here.
Tim Pool
In a vacuum against a plate, they fire particles at it.
George Santos
Yep.
Tim Pool
The particles create no inertial effect, but upon impact, they create a very, very tiny one. So it's a net zero at production of the energy and a net positive physically. So hypothetically, the internal zero point engine fires a stream of particles at a plate, which again, the firing produces no recoil effect. The impact of the plate produces a minor impact effect which drives the whole thing forward.
Ian Crossland
Are they firing protons?
Phil Remains
But that's still.
Tim Pool
I'm not sure. I think it's electrons.
Phil Remains
It's still governed. Governed by Einstein's understanding physics.
Tim Pool
That actually does. Not necessarily.
George Santos
It's not. Not necessarily.
Tim Pool
Yeah. No.
George Santos
The idea that colors outside the lines of everything. Einstein on the Einstein doctrine.
David Pollock
Well, we were.
Tim Pool
You are creating propulsion with. With no propulsion, you're creating gravity. It's effectively a pure violation. Of what?
David Pollock
The second speed of that propulsion will still be limited by that time. So you still can't.
Tim Pool
The amount of energy produced, so. No, but the idea is the fundamental physical rule is like, if you're in space and you're spinning right. You're spinning backwards. You throw something down and you'll spin faster. You throw it up and then you'll stop the counter. The force counteracts. Right. When you release the object. So again, if you have a gun in space and you fire it. Watch when drones shoot guns. Boom. They go like that.
David Pollock
Whatever has more energy will.
Tim Pool
This zero point propulsion creates no recoil effect, but produces one after the fact, which seems to violate the laws of thermodynamics.
Phil Remains
Yeah, but that's.
David Pollock
That's thermodynamics.
Phil Remains
Einstein didn't get into thermodynamic dynamics.
Tim Pool
I know.
George Santos
They're all governed by physics.
Phil Remains
What?
Tim Pool
They're.
George Santos
All thermodynamics is governed by.
Phil Remains
Yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
It's the government. It's the laws of physics.
George Santos
Exactly.
Ian Crossland
Newtonian physics. Those were Newton's ideas.
Phil Remains
I don't think Newton did the.
Tim Pool
Not only that, but when you get into quantum scale stuff and they make sense anyway, so well.
David Pollock
But at the end of the day, to brace this, a brass tax. And I want to talk about the human zone is the fact that no matter what we create, we're still up against. If we're talking about space travel and we want to get to the nearest galaxy, you would need lifetimes and plus so much radiation you would die. And even if you could travel the
George Santos
speed of light, I don't think that's true. You know, I actually, even if you strongly.
David Pollock
What's the closest Alpha Centauri. How many light years is that away?
Phil Remains
11.
Tim Pool
It's 11 light years.
Phil Remains
Pretty sure.
David Pollock
Okay, so 11 light years, that was so spot on.
Ian Crossland
That means it only takes.
Phil Remains
I mean I watch a lot of YouTube on this. So that's why I asked you about, you know, if the physics. Physics, you know, or. That's why I talk about the physics that we understand right now.
George Santos
Did you see Tim Burchett commenting on the Matt Gates interview?
Tim Pool
Yeah, we talked about it.
George Santos
Spaceships on the size of football fields.
Ian Crossland
Oh yeah.
Tim Pool
Moving 200 miles an hour underwater.
Phil Remains
I'm sorry, Alpha Centauri is 4.37.
Tim Pool
Because they can phase matter.
David Pollock
Well, see, now we're talking about something totally different then, right? If we're talking about phasing matter and doing things, where does that technology come from? Does it come from space? I guess my question is, does it come from space or somewhere else?
Tim Pool
Warp technology was conceptualized in like the 40s or 50s and they made a TV show about it.
Phil Remains
Yeah, I mean when it comes to warp stuff like that, it's in theory. That's fine with the. Right. Now, the ability, as far as we know, the ability to. The ability. Hold on. The ability to bend space requires such an amount of energy that you can't. As of, as of our understanding, we can't control.
Ian Crossland
That's the big cop out that the government will always tell you we just don't have enough energy.
Tim Pool
Again, again, again. Of course we can't control. The question is, can it be controlled? The answer is likely, yes.
David Pollock
Yeah, that's a good point.
Ian Crossland
You get enough energy, you can, you can charge a particle so high and then fire it at an object and it will go around the object and through it. They call it quantum tunneling.
Phil Remains
It doesn't go around, it goes through.
Ian Crossland
They say it goes through it, but I guarantee if you see it close enough, it's slipping around it.
Tim Pool
Well, I think that Dyson spheres probably exist.
Phil Remains
It's not quantum.
Tim Pool
And the the perfect harnessing of energy and manipulation of it exists. And then one, one kind of joke hypothesis I have is that as we watch all of our technologies continually get smaller and more efficient, would it not come to a point where we have like a single series of like a small little grid of particles that enable you to do literally anything.
George Santos
Micro nano particles. Yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
It's like, it's, it's three body problem. They have the sofons that can basically do anything. Yeah, like technology becomes so small and so compact. The other question is, is it possible then, if you follow that train of thought, that the simple knowledge of the equations would grant you godlike powers?
Ian Crossland
Yeah, that's why that the information will be obfuscated in the system. And it's the guy like Neo that goes into the Matrix and can reverse engineer the code so that he can make anything appear.
Tim Pool
I don't know that the human mind has the capability to come to that point. When we are mapping the physics of the universe and writing this stuff out. We're writing out the code of the universe. And so the code, imagine it's a chessboard and we've not even filled in a quarter of one of the squares in the bottom left. And that whole map of physics is just waiting for us to start building up with AI. It's gonna like crazy.
David Pollock
That's a good point.
George Santos
Soon, very soon, the singularity is coming for you.
Ian Crossland
The, the, like the connection between the quantum spin state and, and the, the subatomic classical mechanics, you know, is really interesting.
Tim Pool
What if particles are actually just because space and time are actually cyclical and when we look at electrons, we're actually looking at suns because the further you go down, you're actually just. You know what I mean? Like infinity.
Ian Crossland
I thought that backwards. An electron can spin down and up somewhere else. So like it could, it could disappear.
Tim Pool
Haven't you ever seen, as it's appearing, Men in Black?
George Santos
Just baiting him at this point.
Phil Remains
Remember like he does on Twitter.
Tim Pool
Remember I meant about the galaxy on Orion's belt. Belt. And then they look inside of it and there's planets and then the movie zooms out and then they're a marble being played with by some aliens. Yep.
George Santos
It's closing credits.
Phil Remains
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So the further you shrink down, smaller and smaller and smaller. It's all actually one loop. Size is a circle, not a linear and not a line.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. The toroid.
Phil Remains
I know.
David Pollock
I think.
Ian Crossland
Well, that's, I believe that, I believe the universe is a Taurus. They think it's Expanding because of the red shift they call it. They think that it's getting further away, faster because the, it looks like the waist is expanding. But what you're doing is you're seeing a wavelength from a different angle, so it looks like a longer wavelength, so the color changes, but it's really wrapping around and coming back through again. It's going to Big Crunch again through the center, wrap around again. They'll call it the Big Bang.
Tim Pool
You know what's really funny is actually the Big Crunch was considered discredited, but now they're bringing it back. The Big Crunch is the idea that the universe appears to be expanding. There's a single point, Big Bang. But then as matter starts collapsing in itself, forming black holes, they eventually start collapsing into themselves and then all crush back into a singularity again. Again.
Ian Crossland
Yep.
Tim Pool
And then it's, it like the universe is going like this, like pulsing back and forth, and then it turns out that the universe itself is actually a single particle.
David Pollock
What?
Tim Pool
A single particle.
George Santos
Okay. Blinking conversations make me go home and sit down, stare in the ceiling and have an existential like, absolute like question of everything.
Ian Crossland
Like stretch your lower brainstem. When you're doing it, you'll have like epiphanic visions.
Tim Pool
Let's talk about the Humanz. Let's talk about the humanzee.
David Pollock
How do you get to your lower brain?
Tim Pool
You ready for this? Ready for this, George? The Humanzee is the hypothetical hybrid between a chimp and a human that apparently Soviets were trying to do it. They claim it never happened, but I tell you this, I believe it. Of course they're doing it. Of course. Now here's the scary part. You know what's the scary part about it? You cannot take a female chimp and impregnate it with male material. You know why? Why? Humans are too big, chimps too small. You know what that means? You have to take the chimps material and put it in a female human. The only way to create a humanzee without artificial wombs is to inseminate a human female with a chimp hybrid.
Phil Remains
Gross.
Tim Pool
Yeah, so when it comes to hybridization, the, the larger species always has to be the female to be able to carry the other species. So what would happen? We were talking about this the other day with the fur.
George Santos
I actually had a chihuahua pit bull mix that the mom was the Chihuahua.
Ian Crossland
Interesting.
Tim Pool
I actually, it could kill the dog and actually is a big problem.
George Santos
It could, I could.
Tim Pool
You got lucky.
George Santos
I adopted it.
Tim Pool
So there's people talk about this, like if we talked about the other day if you took a dachshund and an Irish great.
George Santos
No, my head now is just imagining the little chihuahua and the pit bull. How did that ever happen?
Tim Pool
He was hung. What. What might happen is that the mother's body. The mother's body will expel the. The babies before they're gestation because the body cannot handle anymore. It will just birth the babies. And if the mother is too small for the larger male, the babies are just born premature and die.
Ian Crossland
I heard about the.
Tim Pool
What?
George Santos
I got lucky because I adopted this dog.
Tim Pool
No, they can't exist. So again with the humanz. A female chimp can't carry a large human baby, especially the size of their heads. So the conspiracy theories are women are kidnapped and inseminated with chimps chimp semen so that they give birth to chimp human hybrids.
Ian Crossland
I heard the girl banging the dolphin. Did you guys know that girl? Yes, that's a real story. And the dolphin, very rapey.
Tim Pool
Yeah, the dolphin was raping her and she gave in.
Ian Crossland
Loved it. And it was.
Phil Remains
Dolphins are very.
Tim Pool
She like lived with it underwater for like six months or something. It was like, it was like a building where they had it in your
Phil Remains
breath the whole time.
David Pollock
Could you imagine a dolphin human hybrid though? That'd be kind of cool.
Tim Pool
Like, I think it would just be like, kill me.
David Pollock
The origins of Tucker's laugh.
George Santos
I actually like his laugh. It's infectious. What can I say?
Tim Pool
Actually, if you're wondering about a dolphin human hybrid, he's right here. Hey, see, that proves it.
George Santos
I have lungs.
Tim Pool
Matt Gaetz talked about these breeding podcasts, programs where women.
George Santos
That's just so.
Tim Pool
Here's the funny thing.
George Santos
I know nothing about that. I can say comfortably. I. I've never been briefed on that. That was wild to me.
Tim Pool
He said people are being kidnapped from caravans and war zones to create alien hybrids. Here's the thing.
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Tim Pool
You don't need to kidnap a man for his material to make a Baby. So if you're kidnapping any humans, it's for one reason. To inseminate with an alien baby. Be.
Ian Crossland
Did he say he heard it from like a skiff or something?
Tim Pool
Military?
George Santos
No, he was.
Tim Pool
He said a military guy briefed him.
George Santos
I mean, do you want to pull that clip up so. So you can see it? That's crazy.
David Pollock
Why are you pulling it?
George Santos
You know what, Johnson? It was crazy.
David Pollock
The other day I talked to somebody who says, I don't know, you work with Matt Gates.
George Santos
Did he tell you anything on the sideline?
David Pollock
I'm not going to talk about our private conversation, however.
Tim Pool
Wait, is this the video? I don't know if this is the right video.
George Santos
I think that's. I think that's where he admits that, but. Well, he didn't admit anything.
Tim Pool
Right. Matt Gates claims military once briefed him on alien breeding program involving humans when he was in office. Do they not have the embed? Here, let me pull it up on X.
David Pollock
Well, if you think of it, Matt has a very large brain, so maybe.
George Santos
Yeah, he could be Matt. You heard that? Your coworker says you have a big head.
David Pollock
I didn't say a big head. He has a big brain.
George Santos
No, you said big head.
Ian Crossland
No, I said big brain, descended from.
David Pollock
Check the tape.
Ian Crossland
He's definitely Neanderthal. He's got that high Germanic forehead like me.
George Santos
There you go.
Ian Crossland
Well, my brother really has it.
John Chris
I think the most important information will be the biologics that are not human that have been discovered. And like even some of the briefings that aren't classified just. Just need to be out in the public. I mean, I had someone come and brief me who was in a military uniform, worked for the United States army that was briefing me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that could engage an actual uniformed member of the United States Army. Brief me on that.
George Santos
You see, I didn't take it serious at first. Non human biologics first because of Matt's smile. Interracial alien mating.
Tim Pool
What the f. Is going on? Look, wait a second. You had whistleblowers tell you this kind of thing? Can you please unpack that?
John Chris
Yeah, I had a guy who was. Who was uniform, he was a senior enlisted with the United States army came into my office in Crestview, Florida, in a non classified setting. I had had members of my staff there, and what they explained is that the military ran a very secret program where aliens that were living were enforced breeding programs with humans that had been abducted from war zones. And from even the caravans of migrants. Now, again, I didn't verify this, but what the whistleblower was telling me is that there were like between six and 12 locations around the country where this happened. And what he wanted was a group, members of Congress to all show up at the same time at all of these different locations so that any of those activities could, could not be moved. And of course, it's a physical impossibility to get members of Congress to simultaneously show up at like eight locations at one time. And so that never occurred.
Tim Pool
What do you mean non human biologists?
John Chris
Well, that was the testimony of David Grusch before the House Oversight Committee, which I joined. And the testimony was that in crashes of craft that had been recovered by the CIA and through a special program that the CIA had for crash recovery, that it wasn't just, you know, the hard materials, it was also biologics, but that they couldn't identify a human source of those biologics.
Ian Crossland
They could have built them in laboratories with carbon. You know, carbon machines are now. Or it could be a total lie. But to assume in any way that a guy told you there's off world life and just say, okay, then yes, is not the way to go for it.
Tim Pool
What's with the smear on the post? Attacking Matt Gaetz over misconduct allegations instead of addressing the actual.
David Pollock
That's what they. He can say anything and they'll do that.
Tim Pool
But my point is selling lemonade. Why? If. If you were genuinely concerned that Matt Gaetz was like, corrupt or bad, you'd be like, well, he's discrediting himself. Why attack the message about the aliens? Auto attack.
George Santos
Because that community note was most likely written by somebody in the CIA who's pissed at Matt Gates right now.
Tim Pool
Exactly.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
George Santos
Abigail Spamberger probably typed this one herself.
Ian Crossland
Up to 12 chimeric labs in, according to Gates. I bet there's a lot of them across the world. Like in the Ukrainian.
George Santos
Look, I don't know. I don't, I don't know that to be true, but I will say that that's a little much. Right? If we're being honest with one another, I'm more on the vanilla side of, of the theories of, of the things I've been exposed to and, and, and, and briefed on. And because they were in classified briefings settings, I'm unable to talk until they become declassified or I will face prosecution and I'm done. That not, not fun.
Phil Remains
No more jail.
George Santos
No more jail for me. I do not look good in yellow or orange. So my Point here is I think that what the American people need to focus more about, and I think it's pressure from people is to create pressure for there to be more transparency in government and sharing with us.
Tim Pool
Like.
George Santos
Like, what the hell are you guys cooking up?
Tim Pool
Up.
George Santos
Like it goes. It goes back to the whole concept of Area 51, right? Like, till this day, nobody can actually prove the existence of Area 51. Unless you're. There are things in the government. True statement, okay. That the classification is above the scope of the President of the United States.
Tim Pool
Did you know that? No. Did you not know that there are
George Santos
things that are classified to a level in this country that a bunch of bureaucrats have determined that not even the President can be aware that only the Director of the CIA or Director of National Intelligence and the, in some specific cases, the Secretary of War can actually be briefed on those things.
Tim Pool
Their clearance is higher than the Q clearance.
George Santos
Was that. I don't know what it's called.
Ian Crossland
That's the conspiracy I think they're working on with the Area 51 was drones that they had, like Tesla was working on, I think anti gravity. He was working on a lot of like, wireless transmission of power. But then, so they lie. They said it's aliens, you know, and they work on their secret drone program. Today they're working on their secret Chimera, you know, animal hybrid program. They're developing life that can resist radiation, that can run faster, that can see farther. And I don't know if it's ethical to tell the world about it, to be honest.
George Santos
I think it's ethical. I think it's unethical for humanity to be living in the dark, not knowing what lingers out there. I don't think it's fair.
Tim Pool
There's a war going on right now. All the things in the sky that everyone's filming. The theory is that we're fighting a space battle and the Iran war is cover for the alien invasion.
George Santos
Oh, so bad.
Ian Crossland
Blowing up satellites.
George Santos
Do you know what's funny?
Tim Pool
The.
George Santos
The quote, hot spot of the country in the United States for UAPs. Florida. No, it's a Hudson Valley. New York. Really? Did you know that?
Phil Remains
I didn't know.
Tim Pool
It's just Canadians. People see them and they're like, look at those aliens.
George Santos
New York, it's essentially the. The hotel, a spot for these interactions and people claiming lost time. Like, I was on the road, I saw a light. And then when I woke up, it was 11 hours later, but it felt like a minute. I'm like, okay, so, so like all these things happen, but they're predominantly New York. There's documentaries on this. And again, the only reason I know this is I have a dad who's obsessed with this crap. What is this? A map of what?
Tim Pool
This is a UFO heat map.
George Santos
Oh, you see, Look. Look at how bright New York is.
Ian Crossland
A higher population also, so that might have something to do with the.
Tim Pool
The.
Ian Crossland
The infusion.
George Santos
Interesting. That looks really hot on Long Island.
Tim Pool
Well, the reality is the sightings are just where people are like.
George Santos
And there are defenses.
Ian Crossland
I mean, we got D.C. and New York, our two hottest. Our most valuable cities, basically right there. So you have air defense drones, probably that they're experimenting with and.
George Santos
Oh, nothing.
Ian Crossland
Hopefully
Tim Pool
we got one sighting in. In Libya.
Ian Crossland
I only suggest keeping the information 1989 of like a intense transparencies, like, show the world everything, let the chips fall where they may. But the Manhattan Project, for instance, if we'd showed the world that while we were working on it, we would have lost the war. So same with hybrid programs. If we want to make the best superhuman soldiers, if we want the best secret drone technology, then go underwater and up into space and like, I don't think we reveal it. I don't think it's. Would be.
Tim Pool
I don't know. This is. This website's crazy. 2002.
George Santos
Oh, in battery Park City.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
George Santos
Manhattan.
Tim Pool
Yep.
George Santos
It was just probably.
Tim Pool
This is Albany, maybe New York.
George Santos
Oh, okay.
Tim Pool
Well, I know I picked Battery Park City.
George Santos
That's why I was like, wait, I love that area.
Ian Crossland
I've always wanted to live there my whole life. Battery Park.
George Santos
Oh, really?
David Pollock
Downtown, Right on the tip.
Tim Pool
Yeah, I love this, like, also floods like hell.
George Santos
Oh, what's this?
Tim Pool
Just in the middle of the gulf. U. S. Navy cruiser, Gulf of Mexico. UFO at sea.
Phil Remains
Interesting.
George Santos
Interesting.
Tim Pool
This website's cool. I just searched. I searched. UFO heat map check.
George Santos
What happens at the Bermuda Triangle?
Ian Crossland
Nothing.
Phil Remains
Nothing.
Ian Crossland
Now it's a magnetic.
George Santos
No, that's.
Tim Pool
I know. Because there's nothing else.
George Santos
Interesting. Wow.
Ian Crossland
Is that where we're gonna have to defend against the AI we're like, come and get us. We're in our last bastion, the Bermuda Triangle. Your. Your magnetics won't work.
George Santos
That gives me Mila Jovovic last stands in Resident Evil. Remember when they're like, all on top of the White House in the second to last movie, they're all standing there on top of the White House like, all right, we're gonna go into like, destroying this Umbrella Corps.
Phil Remains
You remember that?
David Pollock
I never seen it.
Tim Pool
Come on.
George Santos
Am I the only one who Watched Resident Evil?
Tim Pool
Basically.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. The game was pretty good. It was slow.
George Santos
Oh, I'm obsessed with her. She's so hot. I'm sorry.
Ian Crossland
Oh, Jovovich is the jam.
George Santos
She is the hot.
Ian Crossland
I wish she was coding. The AI. We brought her up a couple days ago that she.
George Santos
Bovich Djibovich, isn't it? Oh, it's not Jovovic, Like, Jovovic?
Tim Pool
Yeah, Nobody calls her that. Everyone calls her Milla Jovovich.
George Santos
Yeah, Milla Jovovic. My God, she's so hot, dude. We're gonna have like. She was like. She's just so hot.
Tim Pool
Are you going straight for her?
George Santos
She was my teenage crush, dude. Like. Like, what happened, you know, I was married. Been there, done that. Didn't like it. I don't know, bro.
Tim Pool
Let's talk about this. Dude. Look at this. This.
David Pollock
You eat one bad oyster real quick.
George Santos
Did you see that? Eric Adams just became a citizen of Armenia. Was Albania.
Tim Pool
Check this out. Check this out.
George Santos
Somebody's getting ready for an escape plan.
Tim Pool
Here we go. We got this from the New York Post. Accused Kimberly Clark arsonist. Compared himself to Luigi Mangone in a call a SoCal warehouse inferno. Yo, these people are leftist terrorists. The guy who burned the toilet paper.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
George Santos
Yeah, apparently.
Tim Pool
You saw this video?
George Santos
I did. I was cr. He didn't.
Tim Pool
He's like, you better pay me more money. Yep. Crazy commies, dude.
George Santos
I deserve your stuff.
Tim Pool
That's what he was screaming. You know, he. You know, he needed. He needed a smack. Stop him from burning down. That's nearly killing everybody.
David Pollock
Abdul Kareem.
Phil Remains
Not Kareem, but it was something. Something, yes.
Tim Pool
Was it Kareem Abdul Kareem?
George Santos
Is that one name?
David Pollock
Is he.
Tim Pool
His name's Kamel Abdul Karim.
David Pollock
So is he Muslim?
George Santos
Him?
Tim Pool
I don't know.
George Santos
Doesn't matter if he's.
David Pollock
No one matters because. No, no, because it matters. Because what's happening?
George Santos
Who cares if he's Muslim? He's an arsonist.
David Pollock
If you watch. Hold on.
George Santos
Is that Scott? Is that Scott Toilet paper.
Phil Remains
Just send.
Tim Pool
It's Kimberly Clark triple play.
David Pollock
But the point is, geez, the Islamic and communists have been working together.
Phil Remains
Oh, yeah.
David Pollock
And that's why I'm interested.
Tim Pool
Commune Islam.
David Pollock
Well, yeah.
Phil Remains
The Red Green Alliance.
George Santos
Yeah.
Phil Remains
I wrote a piece on my pro. On my Patreon.
George Santos
I will say that. I will say I have a whole
David Pollock
special on it today.
George Santos
Yeah, that right there is going to rise the cost of toilet paper in California.
David Pollock
I'm going to Costco right after this. I mean, I can't be without again.
Tim Pool
Remember?
George Santos
Covid, I didn't have that issue in New York. Did you have an issue without toilet paper?
Tim Pool
No.
George Santos
Never ran out of toilet paper or bouncy. In New York, we didn't have that issue.
Tim Pool
We didn't. Because I read the news.
David Pollock
Did anybody run out of toilet paper for real?
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, all over the place. The thing is, for us, I read the news every day. So when I heard that there was a shortage, I went to Walmart, grabbed a bunch and went home. And then like a week or two later they were like, yeah, we're running out.
George Santos
You know what's crazy funny, Literally the
Tim Pool
Walmart nears had very, very little toile.
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George Santos
Oh, I remember when Target had like limits.
Tim Pool
You can.
David Pollock
I remember there was no toilet.
George Santos
No, no, no, no, no.
Tim Pool
Our Walmart was empty. Yeah, we filmed it.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Tim Pool
On my Instagram. There's no toilet paper anywhere.
George Santos
Yeah, interesting. I mean, in New York we had no issues with like. I mean, I'm sure there were shortages, but like my neck of the woods, we. We were pretty decent. I mean, we did have one problem with people wanting to hoard whatever they can get their hands on. But I mean, how much toilet.
Tim Pool
I think tissues.
George Santos
There's still people going through toilet paper from 2020 in New York.
Ian Crossland
I can guarantee you that they actually made it. I think it was World War II in Canada. It poured wheat or rice or something. They would come and get you if you were trying to. Yeah.
Tim Pool
You guys see this?
Phil Remains
Cocktails?
Tim Pool
Are you kidding? Somebody. Somebody threw a Molotov at Sam Altman's house.
George Santos
Do you know that I just discovered he's gay?
Tim Pool
He is.
George Santos
I did not know that.
Phil Remains
Really?
George Santos
I don't at all. He just creeps me out. So I didn't pay attention to him ever.
Tim Pool
Looks great.
George Santos
Yeah, he creeps the out of me.
Ian Crossland
He's putting his brain in a computer. I think I read that he. He said he's going to.
Phil Remains
He's going to. He wants to get his brain uploaded. Uploaded. He said that it'll kill him, but.
George Santos
What?
Phil Remains
Well, yeah, I mean, if you. I guess the way that they. They actually will digitize your brain, it actually destroys your brain.
Tim Pool
Huh.
David Pollock
Then you live forever.
Phil Remains
I don't believe.
Tim Pool
You know, it'd be really funny, guys. He puts the brain cap on and they're like. We are uploading and he's like, I feel it. It's happening. And then they're like 65%, 70% power failure.
George Santos
Oh no.
Tim Pool
Oh no. Only 70% of his brain got uploaded to the computer.
Ian Crossland
He's now in the power group.
Tim Pool
He's dead. Dead. What? He's dead. And so they turn in the system. So he's dead and they turn the computer on and then they're like, sam, we only were able to get 70 of your brain to work. Are you there he goes,
David Pollock
oh.
George Santos
I was like, this is a hybrid like of a movie like Lucy, which is Scarlett Johansson meets Elysium.
Ian Crossland
Like the Lawnmower Man.
Tim Pool
We thought we were expanding his consciousness by uploading, but we only got 70. So now he's a functionality.
Phil Remains
I strongly think that human. The human experience is directly connected to your brain. So I don't think that they can upload your brain and you'll actually be conscious in the computer.
Tim Pool
No, but the computer would have a facsimile of you.
Phil Remains
Yeah, it'd be. You would still die.
Tim Pool
But have you, have you watched Invincible or Lucy? Have you seen Invincible or Lucy? So the character computer, the character robot and Invincible in the. And like in the beginning it's a robot called robot that does all this sci fi stuff. Sci fi stuff. But then later you find out it's actually a like deformed, mutant, hyper intelligent dude in a vat controlling the robot with his mind. And he's like, I am a person. And so what he does is he takes the genetic material from another guy, clones himself and copies his mind, creating two versions of himself and then dies.
George Santos
Hold on, so you're saying it was. I didn't watch the movie.
Tim Pool
The mutant guy kills himself after creating a clone of himself with all his memories. Wow. So there is a version of him that exists, but he's actually.
Ian Crossland
I don't love myself enough to do that. I'd rather just like, if I can't be me, I'm not gonna make another me.
Tim Pool
That's Star Trek canon, basically. Actually, Star Trek canon doesn't make any sense because. So I Love Season 6 episode where Picard gets transported and comes back as a child, which makes no sense. But the, the actual canon of Star Trek is that when you get beamed down, you die.
George Santos
Oh, wow.
Tim Pool
And then it reconstitutes you with. With other matters.
George Santos
Hold on.
Tim Pool
Which implies existence of a soul attached to the house.
George Santos
I'm actually curious to see what a guy like him lives in.
Tim Pool
Oh, I don't think so.
George Santos
I feel bad. This is awful.
Tim Pool
They're not gonna post pictures.
David Pollock
What if you take a God angle to this and you're trapped on Earth? If you upload your consciousness, you're trapped on Earth forever as.
Tim Pool
No, no Ascending the joke Is. It's a meme of a guy smiling. It says, me looking up from hell as a robot with my. With my. A copy of my mind walks around pretending to be me.
David Pollock
That's funny.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Well, I figured out how to. How to snap people back to being PCs instead of NPCs.
Phil Remains
Did you?
Ian Crossland
It's quantum wave duality.
George Santos
You.
Ian Crossland
You observe them, and then the wave collapses into a particle, which is the spirit going into them, and then they, like, become.
Tim Pool
Now, NPCs are real. Let me tell you.
Phil Remains
Figure that I was.
Tim Pool
I was talking to someone about this, and we were both Talking about how NPCs are a real thing in that you could be, like, walking down the street and there's someone walking, and if you bump into them, they behave identically to an NBC in a game. They'll, like, stumble back and go, hey, watch it, man. And then go right back to the track and walking like nothing happened. And, you know, the actual response is, well, yeah, the guy's going somewhere. You bumped into him. What's he gonna do? But in video games, you encounter a lot of people that seemingly can't deviate from a track. They can't do anything out of the ordinary. And that's my father, the NPCs.
Ian Crossland
The difference of the game is, in reality, if you observe someone, they'll be like, someone watching me. Like that man. Who stereotypes in a video game. I've yet to see that in a game yet. But they'll start introducing that.
Tim Pool
That.
George Santos
That's kind of my dad. You just described my dad. Like, he. He's like a. A horse. Narrow vision. Like, he picks a path. Like, nothing deters him from making that. Like, you cannot distract him.
Tim Pool
What's up with that? You know, every time I drive down the road, I see cows, and, you know, those cows are doing nothing. They're just standing. And I'm like. I always point out to my wife, I go, there's another horse literally just standing and staring. There's a cow. Literally. Just one time, we were driving and a cow was walking. It's walking. Like, literally. We drive by the cows, and they're all just standing there, not moving. Yeah. Sometimes you see a meeting, sometimes the horses are eating. But I'm like, my wife goes, like, what do you expect? Expecting to be doing? And I'm like, I don't know, like,
George Santos
mooing to one another.
David Pollock
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yelling. I don't know, running around.
Ian Crossland
Parked out front of that.
George Santos
In India, a farm.
Ian Crossland
Like, a couple months ago, I was
George Santos
driving because they're not at risk of death in India. That's why.
Tim Pool
Just walk the roads. Yeah.
Ian Crossland
One cow was like, no, because I was, it was a family of cows and I parked to like do my gps and the one mama cow started yelling because it was like warning, hey, there's a guy here looking at me.
David Pollock
And I was just like, thanks guys.
George Santos
And in India, I guess they, they interact more just because they don't, they're not at risk of being killed.
Tim Pool
We gotta get, we gotta get questions, Brian. Major threat says Tim. That's what cattle do. I'm like, I know. They just stand there. Guys, in the discord. Let's get your questions in now. Start asking away. We're gonna pull those in for you guys and for everybody else watching. If you want to get into the the hour long bonus pre show on Fridays when we do these pre records, you got to join@timcast.com and then you can actually have your questions asked on the show as we bring them up now and we'll see what you guys have to say. And I'm still, we're still waiting.
Ian Crossland
I had a question to start it up.
John Chris
Okay.
Ian Crossland
If the world is doing the most heinous genetic engineering of humans AI experiment, would it then be ethical for us to also be doing it?
Phil Remains
Well, I mean, let's say the Chinese
Ian Crossland
and the Russians are making super soldiers
Phil Remains
secretly and lambda, I don't think someone else doing something makes it ethical for you to do it. If it's ethical, then it's ethical for you and for other people to do it. If it's inethical or it's not ethical, it's not ethical for them to do it. Now the cause. What?
George Santos
It's unethical to do a lot of things in this country that it's completely fine to do in other countries. Are you talking from a moral or from a.
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Phil Remains
So when I say ethical, I mean moral stamp.
Ian Crossland
More moral.
Tim Pool
Okay.
Phil Remains
And that doesn't, it doesn't mean that. That doesn't mean that the, the US isn't going to do unethical stuff.
Tim Pool
I got a question. Is it ethical to create human hybrids of any kind of.
George Santos
No, no, no.
Tim Pool
Why?
George Santos
Because. What's the name of that Titan? Did you ever watch that movie Titan that they. They create? Why you guys don't watch movies? I've referenced like five movies today. Damn it. So there's this movie, Titan. What they're trying to do is get. I think it's Matt Damon, if I'm not mistaken, the actor in the movie. They're trying to turn humans.
Tim Pool
Oh, I've seen this. Yeah, it's not Matt Damon. It's.
George Santos
Who is it? It's not Matt Damon. It's one of those.
Tim Pool
Yeah, the movie was weird.
George Santos
It's.
Tim Pool
It's strange.
George Santos
But they're trying to get them to tighten Titan. One of the what?
Tim Pool
Jupiter.
Ian Crossland
Moons of Jupiter.
Tim Pool
Yeah, dude, Sam Worthington.
George Santos
There you go.
Tim Pool
And so they turn him into aliens.
George Santos
He cease to become humans in that concept.
Tim Pool
But they become retarded is the problem.
George Santos
Well, not retarded.
Tim Pool
They be.
George Santos
No, they don't communicate anymore.
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no. They become retarded and start killing people for no reason.
George Santos
Like aggressive.
Tim Pool
Yeah, but that's, that's retardation. Like if you. If you lose higher cognitive function and you can't communicate and you're just an animal running and killing people like the. Your retard.
George Santos
Oh, he doesn't. The female version doesn't.
Tim Pool
He does too.
George Santos
No, no, he doesn't kill anybody. Movie. She does. She kills her husband.
Tim Pool
Yeah, well, but. And then that he cheats on his wife and like they lose. They lose higher cognitive function when they do it.
George Santos
That's true.
Tim Pool
But again, like, why is it unethical? So let's say there's that. But that's, but that's, that's saying that specific thing is unethical. Let me put it this way. If there was an alien race that was that lived twice as long and was super strong and was compatible with humans. Like let's say a Kryptonian. If they could hybridize a human Kryptonian,
George Santos
is it wrong to do a bunch of Superman? Is that what you're saying?
Tim Pool
I'd say a bunch. But like, would one be problem? A kid is born, and then as he starts getting older, he starts realizing he can fly and he's really strong. Is that a problem?
George Santos
No.
Tim Pool
Right. Burn was freaky. You see that movie?
George Santos
No.
Tim Pool
Brightburn is a horror movie based off Superman where the kid, the. The. The parent, the. The. The spaceship crashes, the parents find the kid. The kid they start raising as one of their own. And once he starts getting powers, he's basically like, I can do whatever I want. You can't tell him what do starts killing people, has laser eyes, sort of.
Ian Crossland
I don't know if the act of hybridization is.
Tim Pool
Is the.
Ian Crossland
Is ethical. It's like, why are you doing it? Because if your whole civilization is going to get wiped out and you do a secret gene splicing program to survive and then your species survives, you need humanzes to.
George Santos
To fight the other ones.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, people that can swing through trees.
Tim Pool
The Anunnaki conspiracy theory is that we are effectively humans. The Anunnaki theory is that aliens hybridized a species from themselves and Earth creatures to be able to do labor. But the first hybrids were intelligent and understood the nature of reality, that is their connection with God and things like that. And so they rebelled, saying this makes no sense. So the aliens created another dumber species based off of primates Democrats. Us. Yes. We are specialist that can do any job, but we can't understand the nature of reality. We only have faith. So that's the. I. I got to read some questions though. We got Monster Mangler. He says question for the crew. If this is all a simulation and animals like cows and pigs are farmable mobs, doesn't that just make vegetarians vegan silly for ignoring all the free XP wandering around. Yes, yes. Also, can I get a shout out from my daughter Fiona. Today is her birthday. She's always singing together again and divine around the house. Happy birthday. They.
Ian Crossland
Those animals can be player characters too. They just don't have much abilities.
Tim Pool
You can't be happy.
Ian Crossland
Oh, happy birthday, dude. They have like an attack ability.
George Santos
His daughter shards. Can you give him the kid's name again, please?
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Who's the kid?
Tim Pool
Fiona.
Ian Crossland
Fiona.
George Santos
Happy birthday.
Ian Crossland
Thank you for watching and listening.
Tim Pool
You can't play cows, dude.
Ian Crossland
The only.
Tim Pool
The only Character choice.
Ian Crossland
You could always, you know, you become a cow in a game every once in a while. You only have, like, attack as number one or charge ahead as number two.
Tim Pool
It's a game where you get turned into a, like, polymorph or something.
Ian Crossland
They just don't have abilities like we have have. We have like, regenerate, run, sprint. I mean, some animals can. They don't really choose to do it.
Tim Pool
They don't have the ability to communicate effectively as if there's a player.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, they don't have that.
Tim Pool
So they're not playable characters. When. When. Before life starts, you got to choose your difficulty. You got to choose, like, region. And like, if you pick Uganda, Sudan, you're, like, hard.
Ian Crossland
But I think you can go in and out of controlling different people and different characters.
Tim Pool
That was a South park joke when it said choose your difficulty. It was a slider between black and white.
David Pollock
White.
Tim Pool
Like, everybody got mad, but it was funny.
George Santos
It is funny.
Ian Crossland
They. They kind of. I think the spirits bounce in and around and go in and out of people and choose to control them during certain times and then they'll leave.
Tim Pool
If that's called possession.
Ian Crossland
Interesting. Yeah. And lots of them try and control you at the same time and stuff like that.
Tim Pool
People of weak will and low mental fortitude.
George Santos
I mean, on the. On the subject of possession, though, what's up with the. All this demonic possession theory that they're all claiming, Alex? Every.
Tim Pool
I mean, because they're putting a religious view on the alien story.
Ian Crossland
They're starting to figure out.
David Pollock
They believe.
Tim Pool
They believe that aliens are demons and that the Bible was describing these interdimensional entities. When it says demons nem.
George Santos
They're.
Ian Crossland
They really are. Are the hybrids spirit creatures that are doing that, but they're just figuring it out through their language, which is religion.
Tim Pool
Okay. Taylor Ren's ex wife says shout out Olivia Das Crushing it as the new Discord leader. That's right. For everybody who doesn't know, we brought on Olivia formally to help work with the Discord community to make sure that everyone's needs are met. Community engagement, essentially running the show.
Ian Crossland
She's great.
Tim Pool
She's been fantastic.
Ian Crossland
She's here earlier today.
Tim Pool
Very good.
George Santos
Is she the one that I was interacting with earlier? I don't.
Tim Pool
Maybe.
Ian Crossland
Probably. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Sinaski says Tim George said he believes in aliens when asked while at the same time saying he was briefed. I do question if he has been briefed on anything that has shifted his belief one way or another. Another has any brief you've ever received Changed your.
George Santos
Yes.
Tim Pool
Oh,
George Santos
that's a great question.
Tim Pool
That's a good one.
Ian Crossland
Can you tell.
George Santos
You don't know what my beliefs are before.
Ian Crossland
Can you tell if the briefings are lying to you ever you.
Tim Pool
They can't lie to.
George Santos
To 500 members of. Well, I mean of Congress. That would be a. A very interesting.
Tim Pool
They lied about NSA spying.
George Santos
No, no, I understand. But weapons.
Tim Pool
Unless they. It's a little different.
George Santos
So there's different, different, different levels of briefings and clearances. But this is a very broad general briefing that. Why would you bring in every single member of Congress and the Senate and give them a briefing if you're going to lie to them?
Ian Crossland
Just don't do anything at all to control the narrative.
George Santos
Don't do anything at all. No, no, there's. There's no narrative to control.
David Pollock
So what was the thing you shifted. What was the thing?
Tim Pool
Huh?
David Pollock
What was the thing you changed your mind about?
George Santos
No, I just answered the question. Nobody asked me about anything else.
David Pollock
Yeah but I'm curious to know what
Tim Pool
was the two pad.
George Santos
That's not your right.
Tim Pool
We got it. We got a question from Bribe and
George Santos
do a super chat and then I'll answer it.
Tim Pool
We got a question for John Chris and he says into the culture war. An episode with Phil as hosting. Interviewing Raymond Ibrahim, a scholar and author on Islamic history would be interesting. Phil, check out his videos Two swords of Satan and Islamic practice to of lying Taia. So the culture war channel is still there. I've been doing the daily 4PMs which are like what I was doing before back in the day with the original channel. We are doing a culture war debate with the Harmon brothers on the 24th. That's what we're scheduled. The issue is that it got to the point where we felt we were forcing debates that and conversations that we like. We have to get a show. And so we're like who are we going to have on the show? And then instead of saying what's going on in the world that we're trying to discuss in greater detail, we were like, let's just get this guy and this guy. And then it was kind of just. So we said we'll do them when we have the reason to do them, which is why the Animal Farm movie debate is going to happen. And we are, we are. We are going to be scheduling the live events coming up soon and have those culture war shows as well. Let's see we got going on Stork says Oracle just fired 30 of their Texas staff, which is over 10 over 1000 people and hired 2690H1BS in Texas, more than doubling the Texas staff. AI is actually. AI is just actually Indian. F this ish. Indeed. Remember that company that said it was an AI coding program, but it turned out it was just 700 Indian? Yeah, it's true.
David Pollock
That's what the response is.
Tim Pool
They were like, we sometimes.
George Santos
So essentially, they were like the. The computer. Human computer versions of NASA back. Back in.
Tim Pool
In the first video, it was a company where it was like, sign up and we'll. We'll code your app for you. It was actually just a bunch of Indian guys.
Ian Crossland
Is that what it was? Just like 50 people in a room doing.
Tim Pool
It was like 700 Indian guys in a room in India coding apps for people.
Ian Crossland
And you're saying the original NAS computer was a bunch of dudes in a
George Santos
room doing a bunch of dudes. Like predominantly. Predominantly women and a lot of women of color actually. Actually at the time, as they reference them.
David Pollock
Yep.
Ian Crossland
Oh, but they weren't giving him publicity at the time. Is that they made.
George Santos
They just. They did a recent. Didn't they do a whole movie on this subject, on this genre? Damn it. What was it? Hidden figures?
Tim Pool
Ah. Oh, yeah.
John Chris
Yeah.
George Santos
It's actually well done.
Tim Pool
Have you seen these interviews, though, where, like, there's a Times Square video where some guy asks this black woman about reparations, and the black woman goes like, well, black people invented everything. White people just stole it. Like, we invented the light bulb and we invented spaceships and like. Like that. They. These are the stuff that they're putting out.
George Santos
So there. There's a theory, not spaceships, that that would be. But there's a theory that it was black women in NASA who calculated the actual correct math. And again, this is depicted and credited in. In. In.
Tim Pool
And Snape is black too. Huh? And Snape is black too.
George Santos
No, of course not. I'm just saying that there is a credible is black now in hbo. But my point, I'm saying is there is. There is credit. Credit to black women having contributed.
Tim Pool
Sure, sure. I just want to stress it's looking like the hair like the Harry Potter show might, might, might bomb.
George Santos
I don't think it's actually gonna happen anymore at this point.
Tim Pool
What?
George Santos
Well, it's hbo. Yeah, right. HBO is getting purchased.
Tim Pool
Oh, interesting.
George Santos
Do you know, I actually.
Tim Pool
Is that part of the Ellison thing or. No. Yeah.
George Santos
HBO is a. Is a Warner Bros. Company.
Tim Pool
Yeah. What are you talking about? It is.
Ian Crossland
Wow.
George Santos
This is what. This is a monumental, bro.
Tim Pool
If. If the Ellisons, after The acquisition Nick's. But here, reshoot it with a new Snape. Like Adam Driver. It will be like parades, dude. People will be like.
George Santos
And it's crazy because even J.K. rowland, she's not saying anything out outwardly about it, but it's like, why is there a need to. To appease something?
Tim Pool
And Hermione's mixed race.
George Santos
Mud blood, which is. I guess that's what they're calling mixed people now. Mud blood.
Tim Pool
Well, I would say that's an on
George Santos
the nose offense in my opinion. It's kind of offensive, low key. It's like, oh, you're a mud blood. You're biracial.
Tim Pool
Well, I've been saying that forever since. Because. Because that was the allegory she was making. Yeah, but now that they have a mixed race, Hermione Draco. Calling her a mud blood means a lot different thing.
Ian Crossland
Did you guys see the AI? Are you the boy who dripped?
Tim Pool
And they're like, oh yeah, the Balenciaga
George Santos
thing, it is amazing.
Tim Pool
That's what you want to watch. No, no, no.
Ian Crossland
Snape, he's just in from Atlanta.
George Santos
I got to say.
Ian Crossland
Griffin Drippin.
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no, no. Check it out, Ian. You. You are. You are lost.
Ian Crossland
Hundreds of thousands of likes on.
Tim Pool
On social media right now and you are lost. I'm going to show you something. Best AI thing. It's the last thing we're going to do before we wrap up because we got to go. But you got to see this, bro.
John Chris
Like that, neighbor?
Tim Pool
Watch this, watch this. Previously on I never did like. Hey guys, is it cool if I send this to TMZ
George Santos
this summer?
Tim Pool
A new business
George Santos
is born.
Tim Pool
Can they not see me? From director Taylor Chin comes a movie like never before.
John Chris
There are millions of neighborhoods in America.
Tim Pool
You know what every one of them has.
George Santos
Tell me. Bullies.
Tim Pool
He destroyed my entire garden. He's such an.
George Santos
It's 3am in the morning. You shut the up.
Tim Pool
I posted the video and we received over 4299000 people requesting our bully protection services. What do you think?
Ian Crossland
When do we start?
Tim Pool
Why is your shirt off? Marketing 101 free attention zero ad spend. And besides, the women love it. Hi.
Ian Crossland
And what about him?
John Chris
Ah, it still counts.
Tim Pool
Doordash.
Ian Crossland
Are you Dan the Man?
Tim Pool
Yes.
George Santos
And who the are you? Bullies come in all shapes and sizes.
Tim Pool
What do you two want? He's evil, I tell you. I'm not sure how you plan to get rid of him. Be careful. He's really dangerous.
George Santos
Hey, boys.
Ian Crossland
Can I help you?
John Chris
Has anyone ever told you that you look exactly like Channing Tatum.
Ian Crossland
Who's that?
John Chris
You don't know who you look exactly like, bro.
Ian Crossland
It's like we're really looking at Channing Tatum. I'm not Channing Tatum.
George Santos
This summer, peace and quiet are negotiable. John Cena, Alan Richardson and not Channing Tatum.
Ian Crossland
I'm not Channing Tatum, dude.
David Pollock
That's funny.
Tim Pool
AI is just getting crazier and crazier and crazier.
George Santos
They is crazy that this is AI. Did you see what I just sent you on the.
Phil Remains
There.
George Santos
Don't.
Tim Pool
Don't you send.
George Santos
I texted it here. It's. Oh, I'll check it link. It's freaking revul.
Tim Pool
We're gonna. We're gonna wind wind things down, everybody. Yeah, that's about wrapping it up. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. We got clips coming throughout the weekend. You can follow me on X and Instagram at. Tim cast. George, you want to shout anything out?
George Santos
Yes, absolutely. Tim, thank you for having me. To everybody watching, thank you for always tolerating me. And always remember to follow George Santos on Twitter, Instagram and everywhere else you like to get commentary. And I'm going to shamelessly plug myself. My podcast, doing time with George Santos, uploads every week twice. And you should go check it out because it is hysterical. See you next time.
David Pollock
That's not great. Well, I'm not as fun as George, but if you want to get in real news the facts and then hear my opinion, you could watch David Pollock Prime Time on the One American News Network. And that's really available in a lot of places, but you can always download the Oan Live app and watch it anytime on demand. That's the best way. That's how I watch it.
Tim Pool
But yeah, check it out.
David Pollock
We there's no shortage of opinions in the marketplace. So what I do is I lead facts first and then tell you what you think and then I want to know what you think. So. David Pollock Primetime 1American News Network, 7pm Eastern at David Pollock USA on all social media platforms. P O L L A c k@davidpolik USA. Thanks, Tim. This has been so much fun.
Tim Pool
Oh, thanks for coming.
David Pollock
I've been a fan for a long time and now I'm sitting at this table in this room.
George Santos
So cool.
David Pollock
I can't believe you brought George. You ruined the experience for me, but other than that, I've had a fantastic time. Thank you so much.
Ian Crossland
Having man at Ian Crossing. You find me at a Ian Crossland on the Internet and go to graphene movie. Sign up for the newsletter that's coming out pretty soon. I've watched some. Well, I've seen that. We have a few edits in the pipe. That's all I got for now. Catch you later.
Phil Remains
I am Fill the Remains on Twix. If you want to read about some of the stuff that I've been writing, it's on my Patreon. It's patreon.com filter remains. We're going on tour. We're starting in all that Remains is going on tour, that is. We're starting in Albany on April 29th. We go until the end of May. You can get tickets@allthatremainsonline.com if you want to check out the band's music. It's Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, or Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
Tim Pool
Carter dude, this has been one of my favorite episodes so far, I have to say. I think we've covered pretty much everything. So David and George, thank you for coming back out and thank you. Really pumped for this episode. You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and at Carter Banks official everywhere else. Follow our record label at Trash house
George Santos
Records on YouTube and Goodbye Tim.
Tim Pool
Pay no attention to the man sitting in the back either. This is Brando. Thanks for hanging out everybody. We got clips throughout the weekend. We're back, of course, on Monday and we'll see you all then.
Date: April 11, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests: George Santos, David Pollock (OANN), Ian Crossland, Phil Remains, Carter (producer)
This episode centers on the intensifying divisions within the conservative movement, particularly in the aftermath of Donald Trump's recent public attacks on prominent right-wing figures like Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly, and Alex Jones. The group digs into the nature of online grifting, manufactured social media drama, manipulations in political commentary, and the evolving media landscape, while riffing on memes, the search for “cool” in politics, AI, bizarre conspiracy theories, and (as always) a healthy amount of sarcasm and inside jokes.
“I'm going to call Tucker and say, my friend, this is a bad idea...” (05:02)
“Is this an op? Like, do they not understand the optics of a bunch of conservative Tucker fans wearing hats, a low IQ walking around?” (05:20)
“He made a video and … got 2.5 million views. I mean, that's gonna be like 10 to $20,000 cash in pocket.” (09:01)
“The joke is, I'll say whatever you want. Give me money. I'm making fun of these people.” (12:04)
“There are replies where they're like, oh, now you're trying to pretend to be anti Trump. Nice try, Tim… It is a sea of retards.” (12:27)
“If there's tone, but without tone in text, it's not.” (13:16)
“We predicted at the end of 2024…they were going to dump tens of millions…into buying up these shows to control [the] narrative.” (25:36)
“Women vote for drama. They vote for stupid interpersonal trash that does not matter to the function of a society…” (30:11)
“Statistically a majority of women are fag hags. They love to have the gay bff... I got 52 of the female vote, which was like, boom to everybody.” (36:32)
“Everything you hear on the radio is what the big business says. This is what's cool, guys.” (56:38)
“They need to control cool and culture and they would not let us get a foothold.” (61:09)
“NPCs are a real thing … like, walking down the street and there's someone walking, and if you bump into them, they behave identically to an NPC in a game.” (114:13)
“Military ran a very secret program where aliens … enforced breeding programs with humans that had been abducted from war zones … between six and 12 locations around the country.” (99:58)
George Santos on Trump-Tucker Feud:
“This is stupid. And I’m going to tell him that I have been saying this is silly.” (05:02)
Tim Pool on Internet Outrage:
“It is a sea of retards.” (12:27)
David Pollock on Image-Making:
"Everything you hear on the radio is what the big business says. This is what's cool, guys." (56:38)
George Santos on Media Aspirations:
“Did you know Candace Owens has become like a darling on like liberal America? … ABC is considering hiring her and giving her a daytime talk show.” (28:52)
Phil Remains on Media Control:
"You can't fabricate cool with a nice suit. If you're not confident, you're not cool." (62:44)
Discussion on AI Uploading:
"He puts the brain cap on and they're like, we are uploading… 65%, 70% — power failure … Only 70% of his brain got uploaded..." (111:20)
On Secret Classifications:
“There are things in the government … that the classification is above the scope of the President of the United States.” (103:46)
This episode is a fast-paced, irreverent breakdown of not only the newest conservative infighting but the deeper dynamics of internet culture, political trend-chasing, and the struggle to control cultural ‘cool.’ It is self-aware about its role in the media noise and delivers biting commentary on the incentives—and absurdities—driving modern commentary, while veering into conspiracy and science fiction with equal enthusiasm. The discussion is layered with disclaimers about sarcasm and the necessity of context—reminding listeners not to take every viral post (or outlandish political feud) at face value.
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