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Marijuana LEGALIZATION IS COMING, Trump Orders Weed To Schedule 3 In HUGE Move w/ Kraig Smith
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Zoe, this thing weighs a ton.
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Tim Pool
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He's talking to you britches.
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I'm not.
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Tim Pool
Donald Trump has signed and was the wrong chair. You guys are so I'll switching the cameras out here. We're here in Vegas. Donald Trump signed an executive order and it's ordering the reclassification of marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3, which is like testosterone, ketamine and Tylenol with codeine, which is a dramatic reduction. The expectation is this is moving towards full legalization. But Trump thinks that, no, we're not gonna legalize it. And I think the reality is conservatives don't want it legalized. This is still a major move Donald Trump is making. It's going to allow research, it's going to allow, allow broad medicinal marijuana prescriptions. So it's kind of a big deal. And then we got, oh, this is crazy, that shooting at mit, that fusion professor may be linked to the other shooting that was recently at Brown. And then we got Marjorie Taylor Greene's bill which passed the house saying no more sex changes for kids. It's gonna, yeah, it's crazy. It's gonna be a crazy day, my friends. So of course, as we get into it, smash that like button, all that good stuff. We got a sponsor for you before we go get started. We got PDS debt, my friends. Fresh start, same system, banks. When you pay fees and calls piling up monthly, unless you fight back, PDS debt has already helped. Unless you fight back PDS that has already helped hundreds of thousands cut their debt and put money back in their pockets. Whether you are struggling with credit cards, personal loans or medical bills, PDS debt has custom options to help you get out of debt. They go beyond the numbers to understand your unique financial situation and and craft a personalized plan designed just for you. There's no minimum credit score required. They're here to help you save money, pay off your debt faster and start putting money back where it belongs in your pocket. They are a rated by the Better Business Bureau boasting thousands of five star reviews on Google and holding a five star rating on trustpilot. Why? Because PDS has helped hundreds of thousands of people get out of debt. Every month you wait costs you more in interest and fees. The best time to start was yesterday. The second best time is now, my friends. So check out PDS.com Tim. That is PDS.com Tim. And most importantly, my friends, go to TimCast.com, click join us to get in that Discord community as a member of our Discord server. There are tens of thousands of like minded individuals. There's pre shows, there's a show in the morning. There's a show before IRL hosted by Slick and Olivia. There's the after show. And as a member of the Discord, you can call in and talk to us and our guests during the uncensored portion of the show. So you don't want to miss it.
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Phil Labonte
We just had our first Discord baby today, apparently.
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Tim Pool
The Discord baby?
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Phil Labonte
Yeah, the couple, one of the couples that got together in the Discord, they met in the Discord, got married, they had their first baby today.
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Tim Pool
Wow. So maybe you'll get married too if you join our Discord server. Anyway, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight, talk about this and so much more. We got Craig Smith.
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Ian Crossland
God.
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Craig Smith
How you doing? Follow yourself and get it from God.
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Tim Pool
Who are you? What are you doing, man?
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Craig Smith
I'm a comedian, filmmaker, musician. I do it all, man. I just every day I duck poverty, you know what I mean? That's my goal. Yeah, man. I was introduced to you by David Lucas, man, and.
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Tim Pool
Oh, right on.
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Craig Smith
You're a brilliant guy, man. Oh, thank you. What you do? I'm glad to be here, buddy.
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Tim Pool
Well, thanks for coming. We got Tate hanging out.
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Tate Brown
What is going on, Patriots, this is Tate Brown here holding it down. I indeed. I'm also ducking poverty on a daily basis. So there was some commonality there. So I think we're ready for a good show. Ian, how's it going?
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Ian Crossland
Very good, man. Thanks for asking. I'm the producer of Graphene Movie. Check out Graphene Movie. Sign up for the mailing list. It's coming soon. The trailer will be available very soon at Graphene Movie. You're going to want to see that. I'm at Ian Crossland. Follow me all over the Internet at Ian Crossland and Phil Labonte.
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Phil Labonte
Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.
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Tim Pool
Here's the big news My friends from CNN Politics. Trump signs executive order expediting marijuana reclassific after lobbying from the cannabis industry. Oh, boy. Now it doesn't legalize marijuana, but it's reducing it in the schedule for. So if you don't know what that means, Schedule one was, it's insane drugs. It's like cocaine and heroin. But now it's being moved off that list to Schedule 3, which is basically like testosterone or Tylenol with codeine, which is still a prescription thing, but it's not that crazy. Quote this reclassification order will make it far easier to conduct marijuana related medical research, allowing us to study benefits, potential dangers and future treatments, Trump said in the Oval Office. It's going to have a tremendously positive impact. The order, which directs Attorney General Pam Bondi to hasten the process of loosening federal restrictions, but does not include include a timeline, comes after an intense lobbying campaign from the cannabis industry. I've never been inundated by so many people as I have about this particular reclassification, Trump said. It's currently considered Schedule 1, along with heroin, LSD and ecstasy, which are not considered of any acceptable medical use according to the DEA. It will eventually be reclassified as a Schedule 3 drug, which according to the DEA, will have, well, has a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. The facts compel the federal government to recognize that marijuana can be legitimate in terms of medical applications when carefully administered. In some cases, this may include the use as a substitute for addictive and potentially lethal opioid painkillers, Trump said, calling the move common sense. I think it's politically very good for Trump and the Republicans. I'm not the biggest fan of marijuana legalization, although I don't think it should be Schedule one. I think that if we enable mass marijuana across the country, I think you're gonna get a lethargic population. You've already got a decaying culture. I'm still a little bit more libertarian on this one, so I think it should be largely, you know, I guess, decriminalized, but I have concerns about what's already happening to a crumbling empire and society when we then throw pot on top. And then what was it that south park said? It makes you okay with being bored and then when you get older, you'll find you're not good at anything. I don't think that's good for this country.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I'm in agreement. I mean, I'm generally considered one of the resident prudes here at Tim Cast, so I have a disposition against marijuana, generally. But I actually do sympathize with the argument being made by the Trump administration. Schedule one seems a bit crazy in many regards, putting it on the same tier as heroin, these sorts of things. I can be persuaded on sort of the medical argument. The more I learn about it, the more I'm like, okay, that does make sense in these applications. But I do share Tim's fears that obviously total legalization I don't think contributes to any sort of positive developments in the United States. I think the way things are heading in the United States, I don't know if legalizing marijuana en masse would really contribute to anything beneficial in any ways. I don't know. That's probably an unpopular take with the Tim guest audience. But I do agree with Tim. I think you see, like in the Netherlands where they've gone with full legalization, the pitch that was made to the Dutch people was you don't have to worry about like adolescents, you know, with their marijuana usage. But then as soon as it was legalized, it spiked dramatically among adolescents. It became very normalized throughout society. And then this became, I know the big haired church ladies, they catch a lot of ire, but they're typically right in a lot of these things. It does end up leading kids, specifically kids, into a more hard drug culture. With adults, it's slightly different, but its priority here is obviously adolescence.
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Tim Pool
So I don't even think Ian smokes pot. Look at him. Oh, I like pot.
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Ian Crossland
I do.
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Tate Brown
It's just, you gotta balance.
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Phil Labonte
What a shock.
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Ian Crossland
I mean, it's potent, It's a potentially destructive and dangerous chemical chemical, thc, especially.
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Tim Pool
When it's out of balance.
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Ian Crossland
Like a lot of the modern weed is like been cultured and grown and such that it's 27, 28, 29 THC levels, whereas it used to be like 13. And then it's out of balance with the amount of cbd. So CBD is the really the healing chemical found in marijuana. Cannabidiol, I think it's how you pronounce it. I mean, they both have healing properties. But the out of balance, this makes people, I think, paranoid, they're crazy, they think too much, they're nervous, like that's not good. And it's very easy to overdose on that stuff, man. Like a puff. You don't really need a lot of that potent psychoactive to get the real benefits from it.
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Phil Labonte
I don't have a particular strong argument against any of the points being made here, but I do think that it's worth noting a lot of states have Decriminalized it now. And I think that because the states have kind of spoken and made it clear that the majority of the country wants it to be at least decriminalized, I do think that it's good that the federal government's responding to that. Now. Again, I don't have. I don't think that any of the points you guys are making about what it does to young people, about the ramifications of it are wrong. But I do think that if the states are going to say, look, we don't want to see, we don't want to put people in jail and waste the resources going after potheads, I think it's good that the federal government's responsible.
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Tim Pool
Well, you look like you smoke pot.
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Craig Smith
I don't smoke pot.
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Tim Pool
Oh, I was wrong.
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Craig Smith
Here's the thing.
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Phil Labonte
Comedian doesn't smoke pocket line.
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Craig Smith
I like the government selling weed over people. You know, in the hood, you know what I mean? Where I grew up, like, guys would actually spray PCP on weed and sell it to people as a higher grade of weed. And so, you know, I know a few people that actually thought they were smoking marijuana and lost their minds after they smoked it. They were never the same. You know what I mean? So, you know, I agree with the regulation on marijuana. If I was a guy in the street selling it, I wouldn't agree with it. But I mean, I see the benefit.
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Ian Crossland
I thought earlier today something you kind of mentioned, Phil, this might actually free up resources for these guys to go after illegal immigration. Like, I wonder if that was part of the plan.
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Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
The issue is to Phil's point where it's like a state by state basis is typically the pitch that's made from these state governments when they were trying to pass legislation to legalize marijuana is the pitch they make to conservatives who, you know, are on the fence about it. They could be persuaded one way or another. Typically the pitch that's made is, hey, this generates a lot of tax revenue for the state. We can start taxing marijuana. But the issue that we saw in.
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Tate Brown
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Tim Pool
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Phil Labonte
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Ian Crossland
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Tim Pool
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Tate Brown
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Tim Pool
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Phil Labonte
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Tate Brown
B R-I K.com is that they didn't factor in the social costs that would come with legalizing marijuana. So Colorado is a great example. They ended up finding that for every dollar of tax revenue that was generated from marijuana purchases, it cost $4.50 to the Colorado state government and healthcare law enforcement. Like education. You know, the state has to provide education around marijuana, you know, proper use cases.
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Tim Pool
Wait, take it back. I'm for marijuana legalization now. I just realized, like, conservatives aren't going to smoke it. Like, people on the right and people who are actually, you know, more studious, hard working and meritocratic, they're probably not going to smoke it. And then all these liberals are going to get high off their asses all day and it's going to make them like, okay with being bored and not being involved in politics. So all these far left whack jobs will just be stoned and sitting on the couch and then they'll get out of the way.
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Phil Labonte
Fair enough.
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Tate Brown
It's a very. That's probably the best argument I've heard yet.
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Tim Pool
Show the people what they want.
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Phil Labonte
I think that's that at the end of the day, this is something that by the Constitution, the, there's not really any kind of authority for the federal government to say, you can't do this. It is a state's rights issue in my opinion. And again, I'm not arguing with any of the points made about whether it's good for people or not. I just think that the federal government shouldn't be deciding whether or not people can do this. I think that alcohol is every bit as destructive and you know, the, the, the general consensus is people should be able to have a drink if they want.
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Tate Brown
Well, do you support the Maha regime?
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Phil Labonte
I'm not like, I'm not typically a Maha guy. I mean, not that I, not that I'm against the Maha guys. I just don't have like any kind of like, yeah, let's, let's.
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Tate Brown
Because I mean, Maha is an indication of like, okay, we're applying regulation for the health of people.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, I, I understand a lot of the stuff that they're doing. And again, I, I don't have. I was never, like, I didn't come to.
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Tate Brown
That's fair.
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Phil Labonte
Because of Maha. You know what I mean? It's like I've, I've came, I've been a right leaning guy for. Even when I was a libertarian guy, I was a right leaning libertarian.
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Tate Brown
Yeah. No, I mean, I mean, that's consistent. Yeah. Because I was like, if you concede that Maha obviously is within the realm of the government, then you would have to apply that standard of marijuana, bro.
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Phil Labonte
Doesn't really vibe with me.
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Tim Pool
No, I'm just agreeing with you.
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Ian Crossland
Oh.
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Craig Smith
Oh.
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Tate Brown
I was like, I thought, like, there's like someone agreed behind you, another tower got hit. I was like, what?
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Phil Labonte
Agreeing the way potheads agree.
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Craig Smith
What about the people in prison because of the old marijuana legislature? Do you, do they get their restitution back? Are they reimbursed for the time?
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Tim Pool
No, they get extra time. They get 10 more years. No, I actually said this five years ago when Trump was running. I said he should pardon nonviolent pot convictions at the federal level so long as they weren't pleading down from a violent offense. So the idea is Trump comes in and basically says, look, I'm the president. If you arrested for distribution and there's no other, like, you couldn't have taken a plea deal, your pardon, bam, rubber stamp. He would have won overnight.
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Craig Smith
Right.
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Tim Pool
I said, he should have brought on Tulsi Gabbard. Look what he ended up doing. He never did this. I said he should have brought on Andrew Yang for economic adviser. Because that was huge with Rogan's crowd, the UBI stuff. Not that I'm a fan of it, but these ideas were palatable and Trump could have shown a willingness to be bipartisan. But more importantly, the big point was, and it's funny because in the context of me saying 40, was it 49 state landslide. I said, if Donald Trump legalizes pot or, and, or vacates or pardons all of these nonviolent pot convictions. Landslide. 49 state landslide. He's gonna crush it. Look what he's doing now. These are moves he's making because we're entering a midterm year. So he's doing this and he's, he's doing a bunch of other things. He's doing that sporting event he made. Christmas now, three holidays.
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Tate Brown
Was it for three or it's Eve and the day after. So Boxing Day. We now have Boxing Day. Oh, these Brits are slowly creeping back in. What's going on?
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Phil Labonte
It's Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, Boxing Day.
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Tim Pool
Three.
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Tate Brown
Three days.
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Tim Pool
I mean, looks off.
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Phil Labonte
The left has got to love this. Just because of the fact that they like days off.
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Tim Pool
Right.
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Phil Labonte
They're looking to cut the work week down to 30 hours. They can't. They can't complain about.
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Tate Brown
No, I. I supported the day after being a federal until I saw the British saying, oh, the Americans are getting Boxing Day. I was like, you know what? I'll work. That's ridiculous.
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Tim Pool
So I'm going to jump to this because Am Fest is currently happening, and I'm not intentionally trying to drag them, but we were in this conversation about the legalization of marijuana. And this was brought to my attention by a Wall Street Journal reporter recently. Just. Just, like, literally a couple hours ago. And I checked. Bobby Kennedy's not scheduled to speak at amfest. And so what happens was I get a call from this Wall Street Journal reporter asking me, like, what do I think about amfest? And it's like, I was like, what? I already said. And this woman, she asks me a lot of the Maha guys, the Maha people, they're not here. She's like, we're here. And it's like, they're not speaking. And I asked her, I was like, is Bobby Kennedy speaking? And she's like, not. He's on the schedule. And to me, that was like a. Whoa, holy crap. Because it was last year that Bobby Kennedy stood on stage at a Turning Point event, shaking Trump's hand with fireworks exploding in the air, uniting these suburban moms with the MAGA movement, giving Trump the edge to win. And now Amfest is happening. And, you know, my prediction was it's going to be almost exclusively dudes in suits coming out and just saying Christianity or immigration. They're getting rid of that middle of the road or that Maha stuff. People like Ian, you know what I mean?
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Ian Crossland
We need more people like Ian. And we talk about.
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Tim Pool
I don't know about that, but they are getting rid of them.
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Ian Crossland
We'll have more people like. Like Ian Sobic, want to do a rock show. I don't know what happened. We were talking.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, like, that's true.
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Ian Crossland
We needs a vibe shift into that, I think would be better than into more suits.
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Tate Brown
And I'm not privy to the approval ratings, but I would assume Bobby Kennedy is, like, the most popular cabinet member by far.
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Ian Crossland
He's my favorite.
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Tim Pool
Like, well, apparently he's why suburban women voted for Trump.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I mean, I think people under. I think people in the conservative world like me, completely underestimated how big RFK's arms are. Yeah, well, that too.
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Tim Pool
You see him doing those pull ups? That and Olivia Nuzzy and he's doing it. You guys know about.
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Phil Labonte
Oh yeah, she moved to 45 minutes away from where he lives now she's staying.
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Tim Pool
She's.
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Phil Labonte
She's staking out his house. I was texting right now.
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Tim Pool
She.
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Phil Labonte
I just saw. I just saw a post from the New York Post. I believe she's staying at a place that's 45 minutes away from RFK's place.
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Tim Pool
Dude, she is thirsty.
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Phil Labonte
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Orbiter, man.
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Tim Pool
Could you imagine? Is RFK Jr. Like married? Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Oh yeah.
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Ian Crossland
To Cheryl Hines from Curb your enthusiasm.
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Tim Pool
Really? Could you imagine being like how old is. RVK's like 80. I'm kidding. He's like 70 something. Yeah, just something like you're really old, dude, and you're getting. You're taking HGH and testosterone. You're like, I can pull up 50 times. And then this like 30, like late 30s woman is just stalking you. It must. He must feel really good.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, I still got it. Some men drown while others die of thirst. That's what's happening here. Olivia. Olivia, you gotta. You gotta stay away.
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Tim Pool
Isn't that crazy? That like. Where was she working, Olivia?
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Tate Brown
New York Times. New York Times. Yeah.
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Tim Pool
And then she like, what, she got like assigned to interview him and then she just stalks him the whole time?
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Tate Brown
Yeah, it's that rfk, Riz, it's different. You know what? The kind of pheromones that guy's giving off, it's turning these ladies into animals.
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Tim Pool
Dude, let's, let's like first of all, he's probably completely unvaccinated.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, this dude is. I mean this dude could like single handedly fix the birth rate if you cut him loose.
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Tim Pool
No, it's, it's the. You know what it is? It's all these guys. Okay, YouTube comment on. I'm joking when I say this, but you know there's some guy at YouTube with his finger over the sensor button. I was gonna say there's these young guys that are just chock full of the vaccines and they're shedding and so all these women are like, what's that smell? But you know, unvexed Bobby Kennedy. He's just like, look at me, I'm joking. Calm down.
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Phil Labonte
She's 32 years old.
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Ian Crossland
Wow.
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Phil Labonte
She's. I put in the slack. She's. New York post says she's 32 years old. She's been hiding from the glare of the paparazzi at time the two bedroom house, $3.5 million Malibu compound. Just 45 minutes LA mansion for these.
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Tim Pool
Smash blood.
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Craig Smith
Kennedy's aren't loyal to women. They cheat.
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Tim Pool
That's what they do. It's in the bl.
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Tate Brown
Hey, it's my legacy, you know?
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Craig Smith
This is visit Marilyn Monroe's grave and then go smash.
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Tim Pool
I mean, you got to bring a.
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Tate Brown
Shovel, but he'll make it work. He'll make it work.
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Phil Labonte
How old.
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Tim Pool
Can someone look up how old RFK Jr. Is, man?
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Tate Brown
I'm telling you, he's like. It's like a hot pie on a windowsill for these ladies. I don't know. He's going on is fresh.
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Tim Pool
He's 71, all right?
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Phil Labonte
She's 32.
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Tim Pool
And he takes. He takes HGH, doesn't he has testosterone?
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Tate Brown
Yeah, dude. I mean, I don't know for sure.
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Phil Labonte
But he looks like it.
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Tate Brown
That's why it's tough for, like, guys like me or like mid-20s. And then these old heads with the HGH, like, nerfing, they're. They're smurfing. They're coming down to our low rank. They're our low tier, and they're just like, running.
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Tim Pool
Oh, bro, like, how old are you?
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Tate Brown
24.
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Craig Smith
Okay.
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Tim Pool
You're a little young for Olivia.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, right? Yeah, well, you know. You know, I've gone some rescue missions. I've gone to some rescue missions.
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Tim Pool
What is it? It's half. Half her age plus seven.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
So that.
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Tate Brown
That's a stands in court, by the way.
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Tim Pool
That's 23, right? What is she, 32? Did I get my math wrong? 23. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're writing that range.
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Tate Brown
That's age range.
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Tim Pool
How are you supposed to compete with this jacked up RV junior?
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Tate Brown
I can't.
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Tim Pool
He's so handsome.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Craig Smith
He's not hard to please, though. He just has to blow in his butt. He'll be.
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Tate Brown
Olivia, stop doing that.
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Tim Pool
Olivia, please.
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Tate Brown
Cheryl's gonna see us.
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Craig Smith
I have wind in me.
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Phil Labonte
No, we gotta get to Amazon.
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Tim Pool
Have you ever seen those videos where this is really, actually really dark? There's like. There's a video of these guys working at a mechanic. It's like an oil change place. And they have the air blower. They pull the trigger and it sprays really, really. And then they're blasting in each other's faces and they're going. But then one guy points at the other guy's ass and pulls the trigger, right? Not even in his butt, but up to it. And it. It blew him up. No, like, he died. He literally died. Ruptured his colon. And he just. And then he. And then he. He's gone.
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Phil Labonte
What a way to go.
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Tate Brown
Going out by ruptured colon.
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Tim Pool
Yeah, because there was another story that went viral where it was like. It was like an 18 year old guy working at a, like an oil change place died of a ruptured colon and intestines. And the story that everyone thought it was was like, oh, his boyfriend got him. No, no, no, no.
- [24:35]
Tate Brown
Francisco.
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Tim Pool
It gets real dark.
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Phil Labonte
Blown out butts.
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Tim Pool
This one gets real dark. Cuz at first people were like, you know, this happens because there's like, people, as a prank, will point it at the butt, but the pressure is so powerful, it cavitates the colon.
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Craig Smith
Oh, wow.
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Tim Pool
But that's not what happened to this young kid. They actually jammed it in his ass and pulled the trigger and killed him.
- [24:53]
Craig Smith
Oh, wow.
- [24:53]
Tim Pool
So that was like a murder. That was just regular murder.
- [24:58]
Craig Smith
He didn't break win, he took win.
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Tim Pool
I don't get ass. I just want to make sure everybody listening understands. This started because he said, blowing his butt.
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Craig Smith
That's hilarious.
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Tim Pool
And then someone went, olivia, stop doing it.
- [25:12]
Tate Brown
Cheryl's gonna be back from Amfest any minute.
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Craig Smith
Hey, man, I wrote it.
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Phil Labonte
I wrote it.
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Craig Smith
I got a gift for you. I wrote a joke for you, man.
- [25:17]
Tim Pool
Did you?
- [25:18]
Craig Smith
They heard it already, man. Oh, yeah, it's about Candace Owens, man. Oh, no.
- [25:21]
Tim Pool
All right. What is it?
- [25:22]
Craig Smith
Yeah. Where I'm from, we call Candace Owens a chicken nugget because she's brown on the outside and she's always full of white meat.
- [25:32]
Phil Labonte
Her husband is a white man.
- [25:34]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
So, yeah, he's like, honestly, being a British lord is white as it gets.
- [25:39]
Tate Brown
That's like. That's like, oh, he's a British lawyer. Lord, Lord, Lord.
- [25:43]
Tim Pool
Yeah, he's a British lord.
- [25:44]
Tate Brown
That's the benchmark for white. Like, John think he talks like, oh.
- [25:47]
Tim Pool
Wow, I hope he does.
- [25:48]
Tate Brown
Like he's got a butler.
- [25:50]
Tim Pool
Yeah, I hope he's just like the most proper, like, high class discussion. And even when he's being nice, it sounds like he's better than you.
- [25:58]
Tate Brown
Oh, he could carry a handbag around. And it's not gay.
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Tim Pool
Anyway, we were talking about Am Fest, you know, so I got. I got a call from this Wall Street Journal reporter, and she was asking me what I thought about what was going on. And I said, I'm still friends with. With them, you know, obviously, you know, what happened, happened. But I'm like, look, I don't think, like, if the direction they want to go either directly or indirectly is just to have more people wearing suits on stage talking about political issue. And the whole audience is going to be a bunch of people in suits. It's like cpac, right? Whereas a year ago it was looking like it was going to be the new south by south or a new south by Southwest, a major culture hub where James o' Keefe frosts his hair and then moonwalks on stage in a bulletproof vest and you've got some weird stuff happening. And now it feels like it's turning into just like, you know, staunch Romney esque conservatives in suits saying we need to talk about immigration. And like RFK Jr could still be a part of that. But it looks like. And maybe he shows up, I don't know. But I just double checked. He's not scheduled to speak. And I'm like, that's crazy to me.
- [27:05]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
But hey, you know what? They didn't buy us. So I think, you know, the problem they're going to face this year is at the midterms that there's this like, I don't know, I don't know if the easy way to describe it is kind of like the Rogan esque sphere of politics.
- [27:17]
Tate Brown
Like the barstool.
- [27:19]
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, that's probably a good way to put it too.
- [27:21]
Tate Brown
Barstool Americans is what they call it.
- [27:23]
Tim Pool
Barstool Americans, they're not going to vote for these conservative guys. You know, I told this reporter, look, the only thing that's going to make me vote republican is it the guys.
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Craig Smith
This thing weighs a ton.
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Tim Pool
Drew Ski, lift with your legs, man.
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Tate Brown
Santa. Santa, did you get my letter?
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Tim Pool
He's talking to you, britches. I'm not.
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Mrs. Claus
Of course he did.
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Tim Pool
Right, Santa, you know my elf, Drew Ski here, He handles the nice list.
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And elf, I'm six' three. What everyone wants is iPhone 17 and.
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At T mobile, you can get it on them.
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That center stage front camera is amazing for group selfies. Right, Mrs. Claus?
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Nice. My side of the tree is slipping.
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Tate Brown
Kimber.
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- [28:30]
Tim Pool
Visit t mobile.com democrats keep getting crazier and crazier. Like right where they just voted to give kids sex changes or.
- [28:37]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [28:37]
Tim Pool
And I'm like, I think the Republicans are going to be stodgy suit wearing dudes in the midterms and we're all going to be just kind of like. But the Democrats are going to be trying to chop off kids balls and we're going to go, okay, I guess I'm voting Republican.
- [28:50]
Tate Brown
Yeah, well it's been the big issue with Republicans is they're perpetually the opposition party and they never actually present sort of a new vision for the United States. This is the reason why when Trump's on the ballot, they get blown out of the water. Because when Trump's not on the ballot, they're just saying, look what the Democrats are doing. That's pretty hard.
- [29:04]
Tim Pool
But like, imagine you went to a Globetrotters game and the Generals won. You'd be, you'd be pissed. And so that's probably how the political world feels because the Republicans are supposed to be the generals who just lose no matter what.
- [29:15]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [29:16]
Tim Pool
And you know, and the Globe trotters just dance around doing, literally even, even breaking the rules and no one cares.
- [29:22]
Tate Brown
Trump becoming the Republican nominees. Like, if the general like got wembanyama, that's basically what happened.
- [29:28]
Tim Pool
They started winning and then the people who ran the game were like, this is not right. The Generals are not supposed to win. And so now they're trying. I, in all seriousness though, I think they're trying to bring it back to the old days. They're trying to go, they're trying to go back to the way it used to be, where Republicans sat on their asses with their thumbs up their ass at the same time going, ah, Democrats just like ran rough shut over the country.
- [29:47]
Phil Labonte
And that's a shame because that's not what Charlie wanted. That's what, not what Charlie wanted. Turning point to do. He wanted, he was completely interested in bringing people into the party because that's the way that he looked at, I mean, at the end of the day he talked about like he wanted to make heaven crowded.
- [30:01]
Tim Pool
Right.
- [30:01]
Phil Labonte
Like he wanted to convert people to Christianity. And one of the ways that he was doing that was by bringing them first into The Conservative Party or the Republican Party, the MAGA coalition. And then he could reach out to him in a way that was. That they could relate with. I mean, and, you know, I'm not a religious guy, but, like, at the same time, I understood what he was doing, and it's perfectly fine with me if you're fighting against the devil Democrats and you're bringing people in by doing things like having Tim Castor or Whoever at. @amfest. That's. That's all good, in my opinion.
- [30:29]
Tate Brown
Yeah. Like, I made this point, like, right after Charlie died. It might have been the day of when Charlie died. Is that the biggest loss among. Among other things. One of the biggest losses of losing Charlie Kirk is that no one else was going to Utah Valley University on a Wednesday.
- [30:44]
Craig Smith
Wow.
- [30:44]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [30:45]
Tate Brown
Like, he was the only guy who didn't view. Not the only guy, but he was the loudest voice that didn't view middle Americans as, like, these kitschy whatever. He wanted to engage them and speak their language or our language. I mean, that's where I come from, and that's why I resonated with him so much. And yet, without that, this is what you're gonna get. You're gonna get CPAC reheated, and you're gonna miss out on all these college kids.
- [31:07]
Tim Pool
I gotta be honest. I'm bored. I'm bored. I think everyone's bored. I, I, I look, you know, so we're out in Vegas. This is, like, party city. And the people I talk to, dude, you know, it's really crazy is how many people I'm walking around and they know who I am, and they all are like, yeah, no, it's kind of boring. Just like, the, the direction politics is going. Yeah, it's kind of scary because Charlie was just murdered a couple months ago, and I'm like, boredom. I don't know if it's the right word. But what, like, the sentiment I constantly hear from people is. I've already heard this. It's like, how many times you talk about Venezuela? How many times you can talk about Afghanistan, you can talk about Ukraine, you're gonna talk about sex changes for kids. Like, we've got this story where the Republicans passed a bill banning it. And what's probably gonna happen is the Senate's gonna shoot it down for some stupid, arbitrary reason, and then we're never gonna do anything because they're the Washington generals. And so I go to regular people, and they're like, I literally just don't care. I can't bring myself to click On a video telling me something I've heard 50 million times.
- [32:02]
Tate Brown
And people should be bored of politics because things are going so well and they just trust that the bureaucrats generally have their wits about them. They shouldn't be bored because of, like, complacency from Republicans. And that's exactly what's going on here. They're saying, why would I bother engaging? Because it doesn't feel like the, you know, national GOP is getting anything done. So what's the point of being tapped in? Because when I invest all this time and energy into being tapped in, doesn't really reap any rewards, especially when Trump's on the ballot.
- [32:28]
Craig Smith
Well, we gotta start getting interested because, I mean, shit gets weird when you stop paying attention. You know, maybe I'm saying the wrong number. Somebody can look this up, but 28213 year olds were given sex changes in this country?
- [32:42]
Tim Pool
That's crazy.
- [32:42]
Craig Smith
That's ridiculous.
- [32:43]
Tim Pool
Hey, man, that's not fun. You know what I mean? Like, when we were talking about Olivia and nuzzy blowing up RFK's butt, we were laughing. Right now it's all dark and I feel bad.
- [32:52]
Tate Brown
There's not much you can riff on.
- [32:54]
Tim Pool
I'm getting. I'm getting sad. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's nothing funny about it.
- [32:59]
Tate Brown
You can't go to an open mic and be like, how about these child sex changes? Like, woke mo.
- [33:16]
Tim Pool
That's the thing that the liberals have always been really good at, and that's why they always do that comedy version of news, because they know news is boring. And we're sitting here going like, well, I don't protest this. Tax policy is just too high. And then Ian says, well, I don't know, man. Taxes, it's so boring. Now it matters in these political years when people are genuinely worried about their healthcare, they're worried about, you know, gun violence or whatever. Right now everybody's tired. We're in an off year. It's the holidays. All I want to do is wake up on Christmas Eve and eat French toast sticks, and I can't because the gluten messes me up. You gotta understand how angry that makes me. It's like living in a country full of sand and it's in your balls the whole time. It's just a constant irritation. No, I think. I think right now people are looking to relax and be entertained. And I think what the left does, well, it makes people retarded. But they, like. John Oliver famously has that formula for how he does jokes where it's like, he says news thing, and then for no reason mentions Little Timothy or current year. And it's like, I don't know if you guys ever saw that episode of King of the Hill. Bobby's trying to tell jokes on the pa, but nobody will laugh. And Peggy's like, it's because people are retarded. So she gets a cowbell, and she's like, whenever the joke's done, just bang the cowbell and yellow. And then everyone will laugh because you're telling them to laugh. And it worked. And it's funny because Mike Judge, he gets it. That's, like, basically how it works.
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Tate Brown
Oh, yeah, you try to watch.
- [34:40]
Tim Pool
Can I add a laugh track button to this real quick?
- [34:42]
Tate Brown
Have you ever seen where they, like, take the laugh track out of Seinfeld? And then you watch it, you're like, it's all right.
- [34:47]
Tim Pool
No, it's actually kind of offensive. Yeah, because, like, Jerry will walk in and go, george.
- [34:52]
Phil Labonte
And there's no laughing.
- [34:54]
Tim Pool
No, no, just pause. Just pause for three seconds.
- [34:56]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [34:56]
Tim Pool
And you're like, I don't understand. Why did he just yell at his friend and just sit there?
- [34:58]
Ian Crossland
They were in front of a live studio audience. Seinfeld was.
- [35:01]
Tate Brown
But friends make everyone. Yes, Seinfeld of no laugh. Like, jerry, George, my cat just died.
- [35:08]
Tim Pool
And then no one laughs for, like, three seconds. Just stare at him. And it's like. It's kind of weird, guys.
- [35:13]
Phil Labonte
Weirdest year.
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Tate Brown
Like, when they. When they walk in and everyone applauds and he's just standing there, like, five seconds.
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Tim Pool
All right, let's. Let's. Let's get even more depressed. We got. We Got news for you from the Guardian. Police are now investigating links between the Brown shooting and the killing of the MIT professor. Yo, this is actually really crazy. This MIT professor was a fusion scientist. Fusion energy. Oh, yes.
- [35:36]
Phil Labonte
Yes, bro.
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Tim Pool
Do you guys understand what this means?
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Craig Smith
No. Explain.
- [35:40]
Tim Pool
All right, so we recently got fusion ignition. This is a few years ago, which means, like, a miniature sun. I'm being it. That's very reductive into what is actually happening. But this is the point at which they could sustain a fusion reaction. This means they can produce a ridiculous amount of energy for almost nothing.
- [35:59]
Craig Smith
Oh, wow.
- [36:00]
Tim Pool
Basically, gasoline on crack. Just. Boom. And this guy was researching it. If we can figure out how to get energy out of the system, dude, it's gonna make your energy costs, like, pennies on the dollar.
- [36:13]
Craig Smith
Right?
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Tim Pool
And so when you get a guy who's one of the lead researchers working at MIT getting shot multiple times in his own home in the chest. The first thing everybody thinks is like, yo, did homie have a breakthrough in fusion energy that was gonna shut down the oil industry? So they took him out.
- [36:29]
Craig Smith
Hey, man, Exxon sent that hit. That's crazy.
- [36:33]
Tate Brown
Well, if these two are linked, I know it kind of downplays a bit of the conspiracy, but if these two are linked, that to me tells me this is a schizophrenic. This is someone that just spends way too much time online. He gets radicalized about Republicans and conservatives. If it's true, like, his motive for, well, shooting this woman. And then with this. This is just someone that was a for you page American. They spent way too much time online.
- [36:55]
Tim Pool
Israel for no reason claimed it may be Iran.
- [37:00]
Phil Labonte
Investigating whether it was around.
- [37:01]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
And they're like, we have no reason to believe it was. And we're not suggesting it was, but we are investigating that it was. And I'm just like, what?
- [37:07]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, because talking about went after their nuclear program and they're going to return the fate.
- [37:12]
Tim Pool
No, because they said. Because the professor recently said pro Israel things and I'm like, dude, shut up. However, there was a really funny bit. I don't know if you guys saw it from that community. I forgot I didn't get his name. So sorry, brother. But it was a fake press conference where he said, please stop referring to the shooter at Brown University as a Brown. As the Brown shooter. We don't need to add racism to an already tragic event.
- [37:34]
Tate Brown
Do you know how big of a problem it is? So you know, like in your email how you'll get, like, these offers for personalized T shirts, and they'll take your last name and they'll put that on there. I always get, like, advertisements. It's T shirt. It's just. It's a Brown thing. You wouldn't understand. One just said Brown Energy on it. Like, it's giving Brown energy. I'm like, I'm not. You should get those shirts brown and.
- [37:55]
Tim Pool
Then walk around, like, Harlem or something.
- [37:57]
Tate Brown
Stop shouting.
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Craig Smith
I have a simple question. Where was the campus police?
- [38:02]
Phil Labonte
Not around.
- [38:03]
Craig Smith
You know.
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Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
I mean, President Trump himself said, like, what's the deal with the security camera?
- [38:06]
Craig Smith
Yeah. That's crazy.
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Tim Pool
My favorite thing in this. Did you guys see this picture right here where the feds, there's like eight guys and they're just kicking the snow and it's like this. You know, it reminds me of. It reminds me of when you're at work and your boss is walking down the hall and you immediately just start pretending like you're typing something and you, you know, you're playing Tetris or whatever.
- [38:24]
Tate Brown
As a Tim Cass employee. I can't relate to that. I'm sorry.
- [38:26]
Tim Pool
I know. Yeah. Tate's always at the grind, you know what I mean? Every time I see him, he's just working really hard.
- [38:30]
Tate Brown
So true.
- [38:30]
Tim Pool
You know, Isn't that crazy? I've never seen him slacking off on Twitter.
- [38:34]
Phil Labonte
Yeah. Finding stories.
- [38:35]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
I was thinking yesterday, if this is. Could be connected to the oil industry trying to kill this guy. So that. But fusion, it doesn't produce fuel like fuel or things you can pick up and carry around. So you got petroleum, you got carbon, hydrogen and plutonium. If somehow this fusion program was helping them get to plutonium fuel or hydrogen, I mean.
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Tim Pool
No, no, no, Ian, you understand, Petroleum becomes fuel. We get energy out of that. We get a lot of energy. It's really good. Nuclear is a little bit better. Fusion would be the biggest. It would make energy very, very cheap.
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Ian Crossland
But you can't carry it around with you. Like you can't fuel.
- [39:11]
Tim Pool
You can. No, but it can power homes in the grid.
- [39:14]
Ian Crossland
On a grid. On a grid.
- [39:15]
Tim Pool
So we can. Right now, I think half the grid is coal. At least powered by Santa's hard work.
- [39:22]
Ian Crossland
You know, it's just. I mean, why. Why theorize conspiracy. I was trying to read.
- [39:27]
Tim Pool
I know where this is going. He's gonna start saying something like, they should be focused on graphene fuel cells with graphene lattice batteries. Oh, okay, we get it.
- [39:37]
Ian Crossland
No, I'll hold back. It's tragic. Finally. Absolutely tragic. 47 year old quantum physicist or whatever he was. Plasma science.
- [39:47]
Tate Brown
Yeah, Yeah.
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Tim Pool
I don't know. Now the crazy story about this, I guess it seems like they're not doing their jobs. And, you know, it's funny because I'm getting. I'm getting a lot of people complaining because I said, Dan Bongino did the best he could and he's quitting, I think. I assume you guys talked about this yesterday.
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Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Yeah. Because he couldn't do anything.
- [40:05]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Like, the idea that Dan Bongino got there was like, all right, guys, now I'm gonna be evil. I was like, yeah, that didn't happen.
- [40:10]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [40:11]
Tim Pool
Dan Bongino did not get hired by the FBI and say, now I'm gonna pretend to do not to do as much as I can while going to the beach and eating gingerbread. No, he probably tried as hard as he could and he couldn't do anything because the machine is crooked.
- [40:21]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [40:22]
Tim Pool
So he's like, okay, I'm Quitting after eight months. What's the point?
- [40:24]
Tate Brown
I made the point on the noon live that him being in the FBI and now stepping back into the podcast space probably will be of more value to us than if he just continues.
- [40:34]
Tim Pool
The shit out of me though. I think so, like dude, if not Dan Bongino, then who?
- [40:38]
Tate Brown
You know, that's a very salient question.
- [40:40]
Tim Pool
He gets in there, gets nothing done. To be fair, Cash and Dan did a lot of street level policing, which is good, but look at this. These FBI guys walking around kicking snow, right? Is this, what is this?
- [40:51]
Tate Brown
Well and if you are to believe the Axios reporting, he also not see eye to eye with Bondi on a lot of things. So it's, it's even up for debate. If there was even cohesion at the, with the Trump people, let alone the deep entrenched, you know, apparatus within the FBI itself.
- [41:05]
Tim Pool
You know, I got it, I got to say, right, because we were just talking about, you know, like the Amfest stuff. This reporter was asking me like what's the future going to look like in the political space? And I said Democrats have a track record of being lunatic so I'm not going to vote for them. But Republicans going like neocon route, I'm not going to vote for them. So I honestly don't know. But what I can say is Trump as a person, I like what he's done, you know, B minus, C plus. Except for the people he hires, right? First time around he hires a bunch of deep state garbage. Second time he hires a bunch of old women with plastic surgery. I'm not trying to be addicted to the old age of plastic surgery. I'm making a statement of fact, not a derisive one. It is literally older women that he's largely given these positions to and they've got a lot of plastic surgery and so I'm questioning whether or not there were. Could there have been better choices?
- [41:52]
Craig Smith
Sure.
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Tim Pool
I think everyone agrees that he could have made better choices and we ragged on him the first time for doing.
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Tim Pool
Maybe his idea now was like, I'll just get people who are going to do what I tell him to do.
- [42:33]
Ian Crossland
Like Carolyn Levitt. He's like, look at her pretty.
- [42:35]
Tim Pool
I don't.
- [42:35]
Ian Crossland
Did he say pretty face? Look at those lips. Just. And it's like, that's what he wants is this.
- [42:40]
Tim Pool
And then Vanity Fair posted that picture of all her, like injection sites or whatever.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Phil Labonte
What's up? In his high residence. They can to make her look bad.
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Tate Brown
I think that was Trump's strategies. He wanted people that were loyalists that could simultaneously get approved by the Senate, because that's the limiting principle in all of this, is that if you got like these super base nominees, they would get shot down. Matt Gates, the reason you can push them, like someone like Dan Bongino probably would have gotten held up in the Senate. But the Deputy director is just directly appointed by the President. He doesn't need to be approved by Senate.
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Tim Pool
I kind of feel like I'm bored of all this as well, for the same reasons most people are. And we have to just make fun of it all. You know what I mean? If we're not laughing, we're gonna go and we're gonna get depressed. I mean, this is sincerely like, you know, earlier we were making these jokes about Olivia nuzzy blowing up RFK's, but. And him enjoying it and it's funny and we're all laughing and that kind of brings the joy back to being in, you know, talking about these things because we've been so serious for so long. It's so depressing.
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Ian Crossland
When you're young. It's kind of cool to be an activist, an anti establishment activist, like, yeah, down with whatever that is. But as you get older, you kind of got to solve the problem or stop complaining or you're just going to be angry and miserable complaining your whole life, for sure.
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Tate Brown
The reason why the 2024 campaign from Trump was. Was so different feeling was because he brought in a lot of these. The coalition expanded to bring in a lot of these comedians, these entertainers and these sorts of things. And it gave some energy to a Republican candidate that's never been there, not even really in 2016. 2016 was mostly organic from the people, but the people in the Trump orbit were still kind of these stodgy, conventional Republicans. 2024, you saw the coalition expand because of Trump's character in a lot of ways, because he just invites those types of people. And it was a lot of fun. I mean, it was, it was, it had a certain flavor to it. That was really distinct. And it was actually the opposite problem for Kamala. She had all these orbiters who were just super serious. Oh, Trump's like Hitler 2.0. And it's like, I'm gonna go with the people that are having fun.
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Phil Labonte
I think, I think part of the reason why that, why Trump attracted so many people in 24 is because so many people were disillusioned by Covid.
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Tim Pool
Right.
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Phil Labonte
The four years that Biden was in, in office, people really saw how dishonest the government had been. And arguably Trump might be a little bit responsible for that because he didn't fire Fauci early or late in his last year and stuff. But there were so many people that once it kind of came out that social distancing was bs wearing a mask was bs all these things came out and people were like, well, I just don't trust the government, I don't trust the Democrats, cuz they're the ones that are in power. So I think a lot of people, once they started to be able to discuss these things, once they saw the, the rollback of the censorship that was going on on YouTube and stuff, they started to say, well, I don't want the guys that were doing that, you know, and must buying X, buying Twitter and changing it to X. That was also a huge issue for people. And so once that was kind of established in the, the public zeitgeist, then they were like, well, we can't support the Democrats. And even still, the, the. There were still a lot of people that voted for Kamala Harris, even though she was, you know, had three months and was arguably the worst candidate the Democrats have ever produced.
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Tate Brown
Oh yeah, terrible. Yeah. I mean, well, I think, I think an underrated aspect of all this is what you said is Elon buying Twitter was a massive game changer because it didn't just affect Twitter. Is all of these other social media platforms had to react because they didn't want to get lapped by exif. If everyone that was getting banned from all these sites who were just normal people, rushed into X, it would have put them out of business. Especially because X was like aggressive with video and these sorts of things. So everyone we always discuss, you know, on the show, like, oh, if you go on Instagram reels, you're gonna see some really wild stuff. And the reason for that is because Meta had to roll back a lot of their draconian moderation and reaction to Asher's new policy.
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Tim Pool
Let's jump to this story. We have this from 19th news.org and I would be in favor of Shutting down the 19th news dot org. No, it's a, it's very obviously like a feminist news blog. But they say House Republicans advance sweeping anti trans bills ahead of holiday break. One bill would jail doctors who prescribe gender affirming care to trans youth. Another would block Medicaid dollars from funding that care. And then we have this RFK junior from also 19th news announces new rules targeting care for transgender youth. If approved, proposed federal regulation would dramatically impact an already challenging landscape. To put it simply, they're saying no more sex changes for kids. And Democrats are in favor of this. And so I'm just, you know, look, the Democrats have been insane for a long time. I feel like the Republican Party is gonna move into this like, Desantis esque neocon kind of territory. Maybe Dan, Dan Bongino coming back to this space can be a more unifying voice for the people who don't wanna vote for Democrats. But outside, obviously we can talk about the ban on child sections and all that. I'm just wondering what you guys think is gonna happen to the political parties in this country. Because there are a lot of people that no longer fit into the traditional Democrat or Republican space.
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Tate Brown
Well, I think that's why you're seeing the knife fight within the Republican Party right now.
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Tim Pool
You're seeing, I think, yeah, they're saying get out.
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Tate Brown
Right. Well, and I think you're seeing the neocons. They're much more clever this time. They're, they've, they've crafted their message in a way that's much more appealing to the MAGA base. And that's why they're trying to poison the well ahead of time for JD Vance, where you have kind of a double pronged attack because you have, have these neocons and then you also have these sort of dissident right wing figures. But the neocon strategy, this is at least what it looks like to me, you guys may disagree, is that they're. The reason that they're sort of calling everyone groipers all of a sudden, even if you have nothing to do with Nick Fuentes politics is because they want to set the stage for 28 to be able to label someone like J.D. vance a groiper.
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Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
And so it's kind of a reheated version of like the alt right. Whereas, like, if you just vaguely disagreed with Jeb Bush, you were a part of the alt right. And even if you had nothing to do with these alt right figures, that looks to me to be the play they're setting back up and that's how the neocons are going to wrestle control of the party.
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Tim Pool
Please clap.
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Ian Crossland
They're using the term patriot too. They're going to use that heavily and be like, are you not a patriot? What kind of patriot are you? And that'll be like propaganda to get people to be like, you don't like that we're going to bomb Venezuela? Are you not a patriot?
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Phil Labonte
Well, see, I feel like the left has already tried to make that, for reason, some phrase toxic. Like they, they've, they've used that as a phrase. And, and you see a lot of people taking, you know, like, we're taking it back and, and starting to like.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, the way that Tate uses it.
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Phil Labonte
But like, the left has, has, has really put a lot of effort into saying, using the phrase patriot, especially after, like, after January 6th, they were saying patriot groups and they were saying, if you're a patriot, that's actually a right wing extremist.
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Tate Brown
But in some ways, I'm seeing the left actually to like, retcon American patriotism in a lot of ways. I, the example I point to is with the LA riots earlier this year is initially the rioters were just flying Mexican flags. Very obvious that they were just Mexican nationalists, whether or not they were born in the United States. And what happened is you saw a lot of these figures kind of in this Ezra Klein sphere saying, like, hey, this looks terrible optically. You guys need to start wearing American flag shirts, flying American flags. So you can like, it'll pass the sniff test for right wingers. Yeah, and that's. So I think the left's actually sort of wised up to this. In some senses, they're actually trying to portray themselves as those standing for American values. Like you noticed last night with Brian Shapiro is if I had any critique of our current immigration system or the previous immigration system, he would say, that's un American, that's anti American. And he would actually have no legit legitimacy from history. But he would say that because it just sounds for a right winger that doesn't know anything about politics to go, oh, wow, is this guy a communist?
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Tim Pool
Yeah. I was, I was talking to these guys the other day and they were asking me about the show and I said, what's the best way to describe the show? I don't know, we say stuff like eschatology or something and they're like, okay, I never watched, I would never watch that. Yeah. And I'm like, right. You know, I was like, we're gonna use. We're gonna use big words. And this is the rights problem. They're. They're very serious. They're very attuned and very smart. And it works for smart people. But average people, if they can't understand what you're saying, it's not a question of interest or disinterest. It's disconnect.
- [50:54]
Craig Smith
I agree.
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Tate Brown
I think. I think the rights issue is that they're taking themselves seriously, these neocons. Their aesthetic is serious in a very LinkedIn way, rather than, like, a traditional form of, like, high culture and these sorts of things. And I think the American people would be open to sort of aesthetics that are elevating to the soul again, that sort of uplift you in many ways. I think the issue is that all they wear. The reason they're wearing this suit and tie is because that's what they see on LinkedIn. That's what they see in the Fortune 500, you know?
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Tim Pool
You know, a Crowder's so good because he does comedy.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
And I think that's. That's a. And it's unfortunate that he's kind of on. On this island. And I think the same thing is true for us. But the. The moderate to right space is largely just an island. Crowder is very funny. He shows viral clips, and then they make fun of those viral clips, so it's entertaining for a regular person. And then he introduces you to these more complex ideas and debates. It works amazingly well. The unfortunate thing is that he's on an island, and the movement to push back against these lunatic Democrats largely does not include people like him. So one thing we have to do is be substantially more entertaining.
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Craig Smith
I agree. And I think the problem is.
- [52:07]
Tim Pool
They.
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Craig Smith
Need a better understanding of extra sensualism. You know, the common American now is more concerned with being able to express their individuality and be more expressive and creative. And a lot of times you have to tie ideas into the fact that, hey, this guy wants to be a magician, but he's a Republican. Let me figure out a way to make him feel at home and not like a weirdo. You know what I mean?
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Tim Pool
I mean, it's crazy the flack that James o' Keefe would get from conservatives because he likes moonwalking, Right? I'm like, bro, you want him to moonwalk? Yeah, like, he. Bro, we did an event on stage, and where were we? It was like, in New York, and James o' Keefe just in the middle of the room, pushes everybody aside, has moonwalking. And I was like, this is hilarious.
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Craig Smith
That's a whistle blow too. That's a dog whistle.
- [52:52]
Tim Pool
That's right.
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Craig Smith
No, they vote for me. Black guys and moonwalking.
- [52:58]
Tim Pool
But what do we look with all due respect to. To Amfest. I'm not trying to be a dick.
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Craig Smith
Right.
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Tim Pool
But it's going to be a bunch of just dudes in suits.
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Tate Brown
You need some eccentricity. I mean, that's, that's. I mean, someone like Milo, that's why he's so popular among other things, is because again, he's delivering ideas in a package that's like hard to look away from. I mean, that's even kind of been Fuentes as a secret sauce. The majority of people that are interacting with his content online aren't even really tracking with what his politics are that his policies that he's proposing or any sort of thing. They just see the club. That's pretty funny.
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Ian Crossland
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
And then they identify as a groiper and it's like. Because that's the most effective way to communicate an idea is through something that's compelling, that's funny, etc.
- [53:33]
Tim Pool
He is surprisingly funny, but like, I don't watch his content, but I've seen the clips.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Where he's got this kind of like dry sarcastic humor that kind of hits when there was something that came up with like Piers Morgan asked him about black people being in jail.
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Craig Smith
Right.
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Tim Pool
And he tried framing it as though it was a blanket statement that Nick wants just for being black. And he goes, yeah, the murderers. And it's like. And then he was like, but you're saying black people and he's like the ones that kill people. Yeah. And he like kind of walked him in. I don't know. People are saying he kind of walked Piers into it because Piers took the bait from the clips, not realizing that his point was he didn't care about your race. If you're a murderer, you go to jail.
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Craig Smith
Right?
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Tate Brown
Yeah. Well, that's because Fuentes is able to flip flop from irony into like post irony on the, on the, you know, turn of a. Turn of a heel. And Piers Morgan is a super serious suit wearing establishment crony. And so he is not prepared whatsoever to handle someone like that. So he comes on and all Piers is doing is just taking whatever he says at face value, not realizing that Fluence is just kind of sees him as like a character. And he doesn't even view peers as like a person. He views him as like a face of an entire ideological.
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Tim Pool
It was sad that Jon Stewart kind of went nuts.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
But you know, he disappeared for A long time. I've always been a big fan of Jon Stewart. And then he retires and then when he came back, he sounded like a lunatic because he was no longer aligned with the liberals at first, you know, he went on Colbert and he was just like the coronavirus lab where the virus just appears across the street and we say that can't be related. And then Colbert desperately trying to be like, well, maybe not.
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Phil Labonte
I don't know.
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Tim Pool
Jon Stewart comes back into politics expecting to be his traditional liberal comedic self, pointing out obvious things like there's the Wuhan Institute for Coronavirus Research a block away from where the virus emerged. And they were telling him he was wrong. But he fell in line. Yeah, he quickly fell in line, started blaming white people for stuff because, like.
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Tate Brown
Jon Stewart's issue was he was still shadow boxing. He still is shadow boxing against opponents that would have been relevant like the 90s.
- [55:30]
Tim Pool
Right.
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Tate Brown
So he still views, like, WASPs and like the Church as primary opponents to his ideology when these haven't really been like, you know, formidable opponents in 30, 40 years. So he's really just shadow boxing now against. This is like, you see the same thing in the uk, like Kneecaps, a great example where they're like always railing on like the Queen or the king because they view them as like, they're still stuck in this old framework where these were viable, you know, political vehicles. And it's like, dude, these people haven't been relevant in 40, 50 years. How about you use your comedy, use your edgy self to address the actual things? You can't, you know, because if you ask Kneecap to like, address like Islamic immigration to Ireland, they would freeze up. And it's like, yeah, because that's actually something that would challenge the establishment in a meaningful way. So it's. People like that, like Jon Stewart in his current iteration, are trying to challenge an establishment that isn't established anymore and they don't want to challenge the current establishment.
- [56:21]
Phil Labonte
And you brought up Kneecap. And I brought, I mentioned this too. Like, the only thing that Kneecap disagrees with the Royals about is whether or not there should be Royals.
- [56:29]
Craig Smith
Right.
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Phil Labonte
All of the opinions that NI Cap has are the same opinions that the Royals have now. They're very much, they're all talking about, you know, they're all pro Palestine. They're all very much left leaning and progressive in their, in their politics. Only difference is, well, we're the Royals and you're not.
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Tate Brown
Yeah, they act like the Royals are still tormenting Ireland as if that has like, Any relevance whatsoever in 2025. The royals don't have a grasp on their own country, let alone Ireland.
- [56:54]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
So, yeah, that's what. It frustrates me tremendously. People on the left that, again, are just shadow boxing. You're not challenging the establishment in any meaningful way. Maybe develop an argument that will catch you some flack and then that's an indication that maybe you're pushing in the right direction.
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Phil Labonte
If you're not. If you're not catching some kind of flack, if you're not catching it from someone, then you're certainly not saying anything in any way.
- [57:18]
Tim Pool
No.
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Tate Brown
Well, you made fun of Trump, dude. How are you gonna get away with it? He's gonna put you in jail. He's a fascist. And then nothing happens because.
- [57:23]
Tim Pool
Or. Trump laughs.
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Tate Brown
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
Makes it his Halloween costume. Yeah. Hello.
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Phil Labonte
Or he tells Mom. Donnie, it's okay. You can call me a fascist.
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Tim Pool
We got big news. Big news. We got this from Fact Post. It's a short clip, but guys, thanks.
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Tim Pool
Drew Ski, lift with your legs, man.
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Tate Brown
Santa. Santa, did you get my letter?
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Tim Pool
He's talking to you, Bridges. I'm not.
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Mrs. Claus
Of course he did.
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Phil Labonte
Right, Santa, you know my elf, Drew Ski here.
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Tim Pool
He handles the nice list.
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Tate Brown
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Tim Pool
Visit t mobile.com but listen to this. In the fall, we will host the first ever Patriot Games. An unprecedented four day athletic event featuring the greatest high school athletes.
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Ian Crossland
One young man and one young woman.
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Tim Pool
From each state and territory. But I promise there will in the fall. He promises that they will be brought into a large arena near D.C. where they will off the fight to the death. And the winner will be the victor. May the odds be ever in your favor.
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Tate Brown
If it's truly hand to hand combat, I think Arkansas runs the table. There's no question.
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Phil Labonte
American warrior, man, I think maybe Arkansas.
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Tim Pool
I don't know, man. Chicago.
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Craig Smith
Chicago.
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Ian Crossland
Well, if you can't bring.
- [59:14]
Tate Brown
You can't bring firearms in there and they, again, there'll probably be no substances in there, so they'll fall apart. They'll probably just kill themselves.
- [59:21]
Craig Smith
So there's no sport. They haven't said a sport.
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Tim Pool
I don't know. Is this. This is a real thing.
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Phil Labonte
I think it's going to be like American gladiators, where you have like the. The foam missiles. They'll shoot at you to run down the.
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Tate Brown
If it truly is like a variety of sports. I tweeted this earlier. Is that your best odds? If you're just like not an athletic person, but you want to be on the national spotlight, you should be arranging your affairs to move to like American Samoa because territories are included. American Samoa, the Northern Marion Islands. These are places with like 30,000 people. So if you move there right now, you're not going to have any competition.
- [59:50]
Craig Smith
Just picking up moans are pretty big and athletic. I don't know, you might.
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Tim Pool
He's at territories. So, yeah, you got some big Simones. But I'm gonna go with like, I'm gonna go with Washington because there's a lot of Asians in Washington.
- [60:04]
Craig Smith
Oh, yeah.
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Tim Pool
And if you're saying no weapons allowed, then I'm gonna make the generalized assumption that my people are naturally good at martial arts.
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Craig Smith
I'm going to Guam. I'm going to Guam.
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Phil Labonte
There you go.
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Craig Smith
Indian could beat me in a sport.
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Tim Pool
Washington just has to find the two high school students who can kill, like the best.
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Craig Smith
Right? Right.
- [60:22]
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah.
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Tate Brown
If it's a kill off, then like Illinois is going to run the table. If it'. Barred. Yeah, I'm going to Illinois. Yeah.
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Tim Pool
This actually is pretty crazy to think because, I mean, obviously the killing makes it comedic in that it's so over the top. Obviously we're not laughing at people dying, but it literally is very Hunger Games asked to be like the Patriot Games where two kids from every state are brought to the Capitol.
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Phil Labonte
The winners will have a dinner with.
- [60:44]
Tim Pool
Me at the Capitol.
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Tate Brown
The winner state will receive maximum federal funding for the next calendar year.
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Craig Smith
This feels like the 36 Olympics, you.
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Tate Brown
Know, I mean, that's what whoever wins, he won't deploy ice into that state for the.
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Phil Labonte
There you go, there you go. Amnesty for everybody in your state if you win.
- [60:59]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
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Ian Crossland
We were just talking about how great youth sports are though. This is a big, big, big thing. We gotta get going again. If you want kids to be, have healthy sex lives and be like aggressive, you know, adult males that pursue women, have families, like some young sports will really get you normalized.
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Craig Smith
Yeah, Kids having sex lives is incredible.
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Tim Pool
I mean, technically we, we've talked about how there's no young people. Like there's a population collapse underway. Gen Alpha is only 42 million. Wow. Yeah. And you can't reverse that because you can't go back in time. We're missing 42 million people. And Trump doesn't want to import him. He wants to deport the ones that came illegally. The Democrats want to import them. So I'm wondering if invading Venezuela is just like, listen, we don't have the labor, but we can steal the energy, right? We'll just go, we put Venezuela back on the oil market and pump all their oil in the system and it's going to bolster our capabilities without having the same labor class. We're gonna have something to sell to make money on. And then I bring this up in this context because Trump's vision of bringing America back to where it used to be, baseball and apple pie, it's gonna need people. And so that means this is a 40 year plan, stealing oil and taking over. You know, Venezuela's close, they got a lot of oil. We could take that oil.
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Tate Brown
Well, that's what I mean. I've proposed that. I think the United States should take sort of a page from these countries that do think in these long term, have these long term strategies where they do have these worker programs. We literally come, you have three years in the country, you can't bring your family, can't bring your wife. You're literally here to work. Help us build our stadiums for a World cup or whatever. And then you get out and you cannot come back, not even as a tourist. And I think like that's kind of a win win is for some of these massive mega projects that we need to do in these countries. And you do have to keep labor costs low. That could be a viable option because as the population retracts, there's going to be a higher demand on labor. And I do think that potentially we could allocate our labor into more viable industries and in turn we could keep labor costs cheap for like construction of mega Projects by taking maybe like a. I don't know, like a UAE strategy, perhaps.
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Ian Crossland
We were talking about doing a public works project. Andrew actually brought it up like a roads project. You know, it's been a while since we've done an American public works project that I know of, but if we, you know, revitalize our roads across the country with, like, 21st century materials, that'd be freaking badass. But you say that import.
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Tim Pool
Listen, bro, Bro, like, oh, wait, we finish your thoughts.
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Ian Crossland
Import workers for the project, and then they leave when they're done. Was that what you were saying is, like, it's a temporary work visa.
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Tate Brown
It's just a simple works, like, works program for, you know, you bring them in, they get out, they can't come back. That's much more viable than, like, currently, where you just keep illegal immigrants on the book and just, like, hope no one notices.
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Tim Pool
I want to explain to you the problem with communism. Ian, please. It's impossible to do this idea of us just spending money as a. As a country and be like, we've decided we're going to allocate an obscene amount of money in this one direction.
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Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tim Pool
I'll give you a couple examples of the problems here and why it's got to be more meritocratic than that. Not. Not to literally say public works is communism, but do you guys remember that viral video where they were like, what if all of our roads. Roads were solar panels? And they were like, there's 846,000 square miles of road across this country. And then it showed, like, this graphic where it was like, if we made our roads solar panels, it would be a massive grid generating electricity while we drove right on top of it.
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Tate Brown
That's why we got to keep the weed out of everything.
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Tim Pool
Exactly. And you guys know what happened when they tried it?
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Craig Smith
What?
- [64:24]
Tim Pool
So first it went viral, and everyone's like, it snowed. This is amazing. They were like, the dirt on the road obstructed the light, and it generated no electricity. Right.
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Tate Brown
And then.
- [64:33]
Tim Pool
And then the. The. The plates got scratched and it refracted light, and they became useless in the trials that they did. Or there was that other video that went super viral where it was like, why can't cell phones be modular? And then it showed, like, a base phone, and it was like, maybe you want a camera. And a big camera clicks on. It's like, maybe you want a small battery. Small battery clicks on. And then Google bought it, and then it. The project died right away, and everyone. All the hippies got mad and they were like Google bought it and killed it because they didn't want to protect the environment. Because if people had modular phones, if the camera broke, you could swap the camera module out for a new camera module and you'd have the same phone forever. And the real reason was that it's impossible. The real reason is that it was a made up thing online that wasn't possible to do and it was this gigantic bulky piece of trash with low battery power that nobody wanted. That's what happens.
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Craig Smith
To your point about labor shortage, I mean we had the same problem and a thing called slavery happened right after. But England during that time, they tried to do things to combat free labor, like emptying the streets of all the vagrants and homeless and shipping them to America when we were short of labor. So I mean, I think the answer to the labor shortage is we have buck farms called prisons. So if we need more citizens, we should just let women into prisons and open the cells and let nature take its course at some point. I mean, because that's pretty much what we did in the past. I know it sounds crazy, but you.
- [65:53]
Tate Brown
Know, so government sponsored conjugal visits, hire.
- [65:57]
Phil Labonte
More female prison guards and then nature will take its course. That's, that seems to be a phenomenon that happens a little bit. You know, the female prison guards end up pregnant with inmates, children, you know.
- [66:11]
Craig Smith
Right, right.
- [66:12]
Phil Labonte
Get somewhere where the camera doesn't look and next thing you know it's like, oh, nature takes its course.
- [66:17]
Craig Smith
Imagine raising a baby in a cell though. That's crazy too.
- [66:21]
Phil Labonte
Well, I mean if, if she's free then you know, you just got to provide state funding for the, for the child, I guess.
- [66:27]
Tate Brown
I mean people do it in studio apartments, New York City, I mean, with roommates. With roommates that can actually crazier neighbors. So it's possible.
- [66:37]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean I, I'm not sure that that would actually work.
- [66:40]
Craig Smith
No, it wouldn't work.
- [66:41]
Tate Brown
But I mean, but you know, it's interesting. This is what we're here for. We're here to like percolate with these ideas.
- [66:45]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [66:46]
Tate Brown
Let them throw them out.
- [66:47]
Tim Pool
Well, we, you know, next, this 2026 is going to be bonkers, dude. It's going to be the 250th. We're gonna have the Patriot Games. Are we having some like massive festival in D.C. or something?
- [66:57]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, there's the 250th anniversary.
- [66:59]
Tate Brown
The, the World Cup's going to be here this summer. I mean like the world's biggest. All across the United States.
- [67:03]
Tim Pool
The World Cup's happening all over the.
- [67:05]
Tate Brown
U.S. yeah, the world Cup's always throughout the country it's played in. And the final will be in New Jersey at MetLife.
- [67:09]
Tim Pool
And. And this is. This is what sport? Football.
- [67:14]
Tate Brown
I've never heard.
- [67:15]
Tim Pool
I have no idea what that is.
- [67:16]
Craig Smith
Football.
- [67:17]
Tate Brown
It's some commie gobble. I don't know what it is.
- [67:20]
Phil Labonte
It's a sport for people that can only afford a ball.
- [67:23]
Tate Brown
Brown energy. I'll wear it for the World Cup. They'll love it.
- [67:26]
Tim Pool
It was funny how the Simpsons made fun of soccer, where the announcer was just saying, like, he goes left, he goes back, he goes back and forth. He goes back and forth. And that's like, the. All he was saying. And they were kind of like, okay.
- [67:37]
Tate Brown
I. I let my hand slip. I let my card show this morning on the live shows. I do actually like soccer.
- [67:43]
Tim Pool
That's a lie.
- [67:43]
Tate Brown
It's. It's very unfortunate.
- [67:45]
Tim Pool
Soccer.
- [67:45]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [67:46]
Ian Crossland
I used to play.
- [67:47]
Tate Brown
Oh, yeah. Fullback. Backup fullback. For. I can't name.
- [67:50]
Tim Pool
That's not a real position.
- [67:52]
Tate Brown
The backup's not a real position. That's why I was a backup.
- [67:54]
Craig Smith
But there you go.
- [67:55]
Tate Brown
I was. I was a riding the pine, as they said.
- [67:57]
Craig Smith
I can't stand soccer. Sounds like domestic violence socce.
- [68:01]
Tim Pool
That's right. That's, you know, it's patriarchy. And we should say away with it. No, I mean, I'm actually stoked. It means a lot of. It's gonna be a lot of tourists coming in, a lot of money coming into the United States.
- [68:11]
Tate Brown
So the joke is, like, all these Europeans used to writing public transportation when they get dropped off in DFW and they have to figure out how to get to the stadium.
- [68:18]
Craig Smith
Bro.
- [68:18]
Tim Pool
You know what's really gonna be crazy is if it. If it's all over the country, these tourists are gonna come in from places like Europe or whatever, and they're gonna get robbed.
- [68:26]
Tate Brown
Yeah, he imagined they're coming from, like, you know, beautiful Paris or Rome, and they get dropped in can.
- [68:30]
Tim Pool
Is that a joke? Beautiful Paris.
- [68:32]
Tate Brown
Well.
- [68:33]
Tim Pool
Or Rome.
- [68:34]
Phil Labonte
In Europe you have to worry about.
- [68:35]
Tate Brown
I'm just saying these really, you know, these really, like, you know, whatever, and then they get dropped in, like, Kansas City. Just get robbed right away.
- [68:41]
Phil Labonte
Well, with a gun.
- [68:41]
Tate Brown
They have to download Uber. They pull their phone out.
- [68:44]
Tim Pool
You want to hear. Hear a joke? How do you say hello in Paris? Yes.
- [68:52]
Tate Brown
You know, the sad thing is, I went to Paris. And it's true. It's actually very true. It's very unfortunate.
- [68:57]
Tim Pool
There's.
- [68:58]
Phil Labonte
There's the 250th anniversary of the US too. That's gonna be a big deal.
- [69:02]
Tim Pool
I'm gonna. I'm gonna buy a bunch of. I'm gonna buy a bunch of fireworks and I'm gonna blow them up.
- [69:06]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, what you gotta do is, you.
- [69:07]
Tate Brown
Know those balloons that have the numbers is just gobble up all the 250 numbers.
- [69:11]
Tim Pool
I got an idea. We should get a bunch of balloons, like 100 of them on really long strings and launch bottle rockets at em. Oh, is there. You know, I'm gonna phrase this very carefully because we have a very large property with lots of open. Seek the permits to do this first. YouTube. But we'll fill the balloons up with helium and butane.
- [69:35]
Tate Brown
Butane.
- [69:36]
Tim Pool
I don't know if it'll be able to lift it, though.
- [69:39]
Tate Brown
I don't know. Ian, this would be a question for you. Is butane.
- [69:41]
Ian Crossland
Have I deferred a chat GPT on this one?
- [69:43]
Craig Smith
Let's find out.
- [69:43]
Tim Pool
Okay. Hydrogen.
- [69:45]
Tate Brown
Hydrogen.
- [69:45]
Ian Crossland
Oh, hydrogen balloons.
- [69:47]
Tim Pool
And then we launch bottle rockets at them. Oh, wow. That'd be cool, right?
- [69:53]
Tate Brown
That could save a lot of money at the Venezuela operations. Send it over there. Just go to Miami and just launch.
- [69:59]
Tim Pool
A million hydrogen balloons into the air.
- [70:00]
Tate Brown
Oh, we actually blew Guyana off the map.
- [70:02]
Craig Smith
Whoops.
- [70:07]
Tate Brown
Forget to carry a 1. Argentina's gone.
- [70:09]
Tim Pool
Have you guys ever seen dragon's breath? Shotgun.
- [70:13]
Phil Labonte
Shotgun shells. Shooting hydrogen full balloons.
- [70:16]
Tate Brown
What is going on?
- [70:18]
Tim Pool
Do you not know about dragon's breath? Semi automatic Dragon's breath video.
- [70:22]
Craig Smith
There we go.
- [70:23]
Tim Pool
It's. It's magnesium shards.
- [70:25]
Craig Smith
This.
- [70:25]
Tate Brown
Oh, no.
- [70:26]
Tim Pool
Is it gonna load?
- [70:27]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [70:27]
Tim Pool
Look at this Mossberg. Can this gun cycle this ammo?
- [70:34]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I can.
- [70:46]
Craig Smith
There we go.
- [70:47]
Tate Brown
How do you even. Like if you're his neighbor? What do you even say? It's the.
- [70:50]
Phil Labonte
Nothing. You don't say anything.
- [70:52]
Tim Pool
No, of course you do. You say, brother, can I come over? I'll bring the beer.
- [70:55]
Tate Brown
Yeah, real. I'm officer. He's sitting off, I think nuclear bombs in his backyard.
- [71:00]
Tim Pool
Yeah, Dragon's breath.
- [71:02]
Craig Smith
I'm in on this.
- [71:03]
Tate Brown
I would like.
- [71:03]
Tim Pool
What is it? Like shards of magnesium?
- [71:05]
Phil Labonte
It's bird shot with magnesium in it.
- [71:07]
Tate Brown
So can you imagine someone breaks in your house that. That's what you use yourself?
- [71:10]
Phil Labonte
I mean, look, dude, it's gonna scare his friends if they're not inside yet.
- [71:13]
Tim Pool
These are. These are.
- [71:14]
Tate Brown
What are they?
- [71:14]
Tim Pool
Exotic shells, right?
- [71:15]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [71:16]
Tim Pool
I bought a pack of a bunch of exotic shells. And what are they called? Like fleche.
- [71:21]
Phil Labonte
There's flechettes.
- [71:21]
Tim Pool
There's the flechette is how it is.
- [71:23]
Phil Labonte
They're all.
- [71:23]
Tim Pool
It's a bunch of blades, right?
- [71:24]
Craig Smith
Yep.
- [71:24]
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's a shotgun shell full of blades.
- [71:26]
Phil Labonte
They have what they call sabos, which is a shotgun shell with. It's basically a needle. It's like just a dart. It's got in the shotgun shell, and you shoot it and there's a plastic.
- [71:34]
Tim Pool
Well, the sabo is when it falls away, right?
- [71:36]
Phil Labonte
Yep. The plastic falls away and you got. Basically, it's shooting a little dart. Shotguns are cool, man.
- [71:41]
Tim Pool
Dude, the exotic ones are crazy. I got one of them that's a bunch of. It's literally a bunch of needles.
- [71:45]
Ian Crossland
Yep.
- [71:46]
Tim Pool
And when you shoot it, it just a bunch of spikes. Like, basically, you could put anything in a shotgun shell and just let it rip.
- [71:52]
Phil Labonte
What they call a blunderbuss back in the day. You just shove a bunch of cr. And it's got just a big long tube, like forks. I mean, forks. But they would put shards of broken glass.
- [72:02]
Tate Brown
I was able to reutilize my junk mail.
- [72:04]
Phil Labonte
Pirates used to do that.
- [72:05]
Tate Brown
Yeah, Just hit him with some Kohl's cash.
- [72:09]
Craig Smith
Credit card.
- [72:10]
Tate Brown
That's right. I got hit with the water bill last night.
- [72:13]
Phil Labonte
You shove rocks in there.
- [72:15]
Tim Pool
Yeah, anyway. Yeah, good point. We should take a bunch of balloons full of hydrogen. We'll get the permitting for this.
- [72:22]
Tate Brown
Yes.
- [72:22]
Tim Pool
And then we hang up all over and blast them with dragon's breath.
- [72:25]
Craig Smith
Sick.
- [72:26]
Tate Brown
This will impress the Europeans.
- [72:27]
Tim Pool
No, it'll terrify them.
- [72:29]
Tate Brown
Yeah, this actually might. Yeah. As soon as the World Cup's over, it's like, get out of here.
- [72:32]
Tim Pool
It will leave for you. I got a joke for you. What does a person in Paris say when they're very shocked?
- [72:40]
Tate Brown
I don't know.
- [72:40]
Tim Pool
Allahu Akbar.
- [72:42]
Tate Brown
There we go. There we go.
- [72:44]
Tim Pool
You're supposed to say sacrablu.
- [72:45]
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah. With the new. The newcomers in France, I don't think they'll be put off to the explosions. They'll be like, oh, this is very familiar to me.
- [72:53]
Phil Labonte
I thought that's why I left the Middle East. I thought I got away from.
- [72:56]
Tim Pool
It's like that. That meme where it's the Middle Eastern guy and woman and there's a drone strike happening. And he's like, you know, they say the next one will be fired by a woman. And they're like. And the woman goes, can you imagine being a part of history?
- [73:06]
Phil Labonte
I know.
- [73:07]
Tate Brown
It's really beautiful.
- [73:08]
Phil Labonte
So progressive.
- [73:09]
Tate Brown
It's very beautiful, you know?
- [73:10]
Tim Pool
Uhhuh. Well, speaking of all that, we've got this story from Newsweek. H1B is to be completely banned under Republican proposal.
- [73:19]
Phil Labonte
Let's go.
- [73:19]
Tim Pool
Republican congresswoman has called for a total ban. An H1B temporary visa program part of the wider effort to go after the immigration.
- [73:26]
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- [73:53]
Tim Pool
Qualifying credit required ration system. Texas Rep. Beth Van Dyne is that he pronounce it told conservative commentator Betty Johnson that politicians had failed to consider the unintended consequence of immigration program programs like H1B. That H1B visa program has got to either stop right now until we understand the amount of just how it's being taken advantage of or redone so it doesn't exist. It cannot continue in the way it has. Newsweek contacted Van Dyne outside of regular office hours. Why? Why did they put that in there? Like we called her when we knew she wasn't around? Okay, so you didn't actually try. What do you guys say? For or against?
- [74:30]
Ian Crossland
For.
- [74:30]
Tate Brown
Yeah. I mean, like, this is the whole thing is this is not a program you can reform. It's just clearly been demonstrated that people will take advantage of it. I mean, it's been like 90% of H1B visas went to India. So this is just not something that could be reformed at this point. And then you have to ask the question these. These employers cannot use it responsibly either. We saw obviously back when this sort of discourse kicked off that people were using it for like janitor gigs and whatnot. So it's like the corporations can't be trusted and the issuing office can't be trusted. Just scrap the program.
- [74:58]
Tim Pool
But did you guys see that thing with Piers Morgan where he was asked like, what does he like about multiculturalism? And he said chicken tikka masala. Yeah, Literally, that was made in Glasgow.
- [75:07]
Phil Labonte
I was gonna say that's not even from India at all.
- [75:10]
Tim Pool
But. But. But it was an Indian guy. Oh. So the question that is, you know, here's the point. It's a double whammy. If Piers is like, I like multiculturalism because we have chicken tikka masala, which was invented in Scotland, he's saying the dude who made it wasn't Scottish.
- [75:26]
Tate Brown
He's also kind of being Piers Morgan.
- [75:29]
Tim Pool
Like, he's like, you are not Scottish.
- [75:31]
Ian Crossland
He's kind of being not. I don't know if racist is the right word, but that's a very dumb answer because. Because having chicken tikka masala has nothing to do with what cultures of people live around you.
- [75:42]
Tim Pool
We can steal whatever food we want.
- [75:44]
Ian Crossland
You know that. You can get the recipes online. You can get the ingredients online. You don't need Indian people in your country to make Indian food.
- [75:50]
Tim Pool
Now.
- [75:50]
Ian Crossland
There used to be 100, 500 years ago.
- [75:52]
Tate Brown
Maybe it was that way.
- [75:52]
Ian Crossland
It's not like that anymore.
- [75:54]
Tim Pool
Well, it was never that way. You guys secret, you know, do you friends know the legend of ketchup?
- [76:01]
Craig Smith
No. No.
- [76:01]
Tim Pool
It's delicious. Well, let me come. Come gather round and I will tell you a tale. A guy went to China and had katsa, which is a vinegar tomato sauce. And then he came to United States, and he was like, I'm gonna make it. And they're like, what is it? He goes, katsa. And then they put cats up. And then cats up got redneck ified into ketchup.
- [76:16]
Tate Brown
I'd always been told there was an episode of King of Queens where Arthur, the dad, he objected to calling it ketchup because he said it was like the commodified brand name of it. And the actual substance is called cats up.
- [76:27]
Tim Pool
Is that.
- [76:28]
Tate Brown
That's like how, you know, people call tissues Kleenexes. And it's like, even if it's not Kleenex brand. So he refused to play a part of the. This corporatization of our products. And I thought that was a bold. Stand by Arthur Spooner.
- [76:37]
Phil Labonte
I don't know if that's all a.
- [76:38]
Tim Pool
Bold Chinese fermented fish sauce.
- [76:42]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [76:42]
Tim Pool
And you can actually get katsa. They like you. They. You go to a Chinese food restaurant. It's vinegar tomato sauce on chicken or whatever. Chicken katsa or whatever. Yeah. Ancient China. A pungent fermented fish sauce and then stinks, huh?
- [76:56]
Tate Brown
Yeah. This whole idea that you have to even. Even like. Let's just say Piers Morgan's, like, priority was, like, food options, which, whatever. It's stupid, but it's whatever. If you go to Tokyo, it's a very homogenous country. It's like 99% ethnically Japanese. And you go around Tokyo, you will have the best ethnic food from around the world. The best Italian, the best Thai, the best Indian. No matter what. Tokyo has fantastic array of options. And the reason for that is they said Rather than importing the people here simply for the recipes, what we can do is we can. Can send the Japanese chefs to these countries, they can learn from them and then come back and open restaurants. Not to mention now you can just look up the recipe and so you actually get like a really authentic. What's the word I'm looking for? You know, very delectable food options.
- [77:43]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [77:43]
Phil Labonte
And I mean, it's also worth noting that like in Japan, they don't really have the, a concept of close enough. Like it's right or it's not right.
- [77:51]
Tate Brown
Yes.
- [77:51]
Phil Labonte
They're very precise and everything. When I was like, we've done a bunch of touring in Japan and you go there and you. The first day, your crew will set up the stage. And then once everything's set up, the local crew will come in, they measure everything, take pictures. The very next day when you show up at the venue, your crew included, like when you guys show up, everything's set up. If you had a Red Bull and a beer set on the, on the riser, there would be a Red Bull and a beer like it is.
- [78:16]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [78:17]
Tim Pool
Ex.
- [78:17]
Phil Labonte
Their, their, their attention to detail is like no other place I've been and I've been to a bunch of cunning.
- [78:21]
Tate Brown
It's wonderful. I mean, that's when I went to the McDonald's there. And they bow to you and I'm like, in the United States, they square up up with you.
- [78:26]
Tim Pool
So it's really. I want to, I want to propose a compromise with Piers Morgan. I will guarantee he can have chicken tikka masala. In fact, I will bring him pad Thai personally, but no immigration. I'm kidding. But like, if his point is the food is good, it's like, okay, then the argument from the anti immigration side is then we will plunder their food and you can have it. Is that your argument?
- [78:48]
Tate Brown
The British did that. They literally would just topple countries for spices. Yeah.
- [78:52]
Tim Pool
Oh, bro, you know many people were killed for black pepper.
- [78:54]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [78:55]
Tim Pool
Amazing. It's like 50k worth it. Like 50k. 50,000 people were slaughtered so that like aristocrats in France could put black pepper on their steak. And the funniest thing is every restaurant, down to the redneckiest piece of trash restaurant is going to have black pepper on every table that nobody uses.
- [79:12]
Craig Smith
Can I add a likely conspiracy to the ketchup fans? Most likely the person who brought ketchup back was a heroin dealer. During that time, there was a shortage in silver and a lot of American, American aristocrats were selling heroin to Chinese Drug lords, and they would go trade heroin for silver. And I'm just putting that out there because that's something that happened around that era, you know, is heroin being sold to Chinese. Chinese drug lords.
- [79:40]
Tate Brown
Yeah. You did have the British, when they were trying to open up the Chinese market, they flooded it with opium.
- [79:45]
Craig Smith
Indeed.
- [79:45]
Tate Brown
And then that gave them a just cause. As soon as they cut off the opium supply, then a war broke out.
- [79:49]
Craig Smith
The Frank Lucas of white people probably. Probably brought kets up.
- [79:54]
Tim Pool
There are a lot of things that, like, apparently, like the ketsop thing or ketsa or whatever is super old. Like, there's legends of it going back, like. Like it was ancient, pungent fish or whatever. It's wild when you like rolling dice. These things have been around for, like, thousands of years. We just kept them.
- [80:11]
Ian Crossland
And we're so.
- [80:12]
Craig Smith
So.
- [80:12]
Ian Crossland
So primitive. Like, the word building. There are words where the word indicates what it is. Like, what are you doing? I'm building. What are you building a building? Like, that's how creative people get. And then they just stop. That's the level we're at right now as humans. We're still calling.
- [80:26]
Tate Brown
Well, have you seen where the word for soap, the root word, existed in Western Europe and also among the Aboriginal Australians? So if you look at a map of, like, the word soap, and the Aboriginals, they called it sabu, I think, or abu, and it's the same root word as soap. And the most interesting thing about all of this is this word traveled all throughout Africa, East Asia, Europe.
- [80:47]
Craig Smith
Europe.
- [80:47]
Tate Brown
And it missed India. And I'm not. I'm not even joking. I'm not even joking. It somehow missed India. I don't know. You can extrapolate that from what you want.
- [80:56]
Tim Pool
Not even.
- [80:58]
Tate Brown
That is anthropology. Like, I. You know, I'm sorry. It is what it is.
- [81:02]
Phil Labonte
Not even. Not even joking.
- [81:03]
Tate Brown
I'm not. It's like, pull up the map. I mean, you know, I hate this. You know, I don't. I don't like saying that, actually.
- [81:10]
Tim Pool
Another. Another interesting thing is because, you know, just because we're at the Poker Go Studios. Poker is like a thousand years old. Is it really? There's. There's a bunch of different theories as the origin, but one of them is that it was, like, in Germany, there was, like. There. It was like a bowl with cups in it or, like, you know, like around it, and everybody would get out the card, and the king was the best. And then you. You had rocks or pebbles, and you'd wager them, and you'd say, like, I'm knocking. Who's there? I am the king. I don't believe you. And so this is like the root of poker. Yeah. Single card game, and then whoever the highest card won. That's all it was.
- [81:47]
Tate Brown
It's like how in chess, like, all of the words are derived from, like, ancient Persian. Like, checkmate was like chuck matts, and it meant the king is in danger. Chess is like something like 1500 years old as well. And it made its way over to the West.
- [81:59]
Craig Smith
Do you know soap is what stopped the plague?
- [82:02]
Tim Pool
So. Yeah.
- [82:03]
Craig Smith
Yeah. In Europe, they used to bathe and eat in the same pots. They cooked then. And the Moors conquered certain parts of Europe and introduced soap, and that's what stopped the plague.
- [82:12]
Tate Brown
There we go.
- [82:13]
Tim Pool
You know what's funny is that, like, ancient Rome had toilets, and then after the civilization collapsed, they just started chucking out the windows onto the floor. No, but for real, like, in these medieval villages, they just take a bucket and they'd throw out the window.
- [82:25]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [82:25]
Tim Pool
Like, what. What happened? So that actually has me worried about what's going on right now, because if we do go into a, like, a.
- [82:32]
Tate Brown
Total social collapse, we lose Instagram reels.
- [82:35]
Tim Pool
I know, that's crazy.
- [82:36]
Tate Brown
There's no point of me being alive if that happens.
- [82:40]
Tim Pool
Well, I think, actually, speaking of that, they're gonna ban it.
- [82:42]
Phil Labonte
Instagram reels.
- [82:43]
Tim Pool
Like the carousel style social media for kids.
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Tate Brown
Oh, yeah. The Australians have already done so.
- [82:48]
Tim Pool
Exactly. And there's other countries talking about doing it. I think they should.
- [82:51]
Tate Brown
Well, I would actually. I would challenge you on that. I think with the Australians, I've always maintained this. This policy, which is when the left throws the right a bone, you should always be skeptical of why that's occurring. And I think the reason the Australian government banned social media for under 16 is because ideas are being disseminated to kids. Kids that were turning them more right wing, therefore, they want to get on top of that. I don't think it was like a. You know, usually we operate against parents, but in this instance, we're going to join forces with parents to ensure their children are safe.
- [83:16]
Tim Pool
I think we should ban the social media. And then when a kid gets caught.
- [83:20]
Tate Brown
Using it, we beat them Singapore style, man.
- [83:22]
Craig Smith
I got a serious question.
- [83:24]
Tim Pool
Flogging.
- [83:24]
Craig Smith
How did we get completely clean before wet wipes?
- [83:28]
Tim Pool
Completely clean? Like, what do you mean?
- [83:30]
Craig Smith
Like, I mean, your butt ribs.
- [83:33]
Tim Pool
We didn't.
- [83:34]
Tate Brown
I don't think we did.
- [83:35]
Tim Pool
It was like they would look at the pork ribs and be like, I wish I could eat it, but my hands will get dirty.
- [83:39]
Tate Brown
Just go to Memphis and everyone's hands are nasty. No one knew what to do. Only some sort of satchel with a moist towelette in it. I don't know.
- [83:47]
Tim Pool
I mean, they used a fork and a knife.
- [83:50]
Tate Brown
Do you think so? Do you think I've. Memphis is, you know, I'm from.
- [83:52]
Tim Pool
Why do you think Buffalo wings weren't invented until like 15 years ago?
- [83:57]
Craig Smith
Yeah, I don't remember. Yes. I don't remember Buffalo wings in the 90s.
- [84:03]
Tim Pool
It's because you. You couldn't wash your hands. And so the chicken existed, but we had not yet invented cutting its legs off and deep frying them and rolling it in sauce.
- [84:14]
Tate Brown
Right.
- [84:15]
Phil Labonte
I don't know about that.
- [84:16]
Tim Pool
We hadn't figured it out.
- [84:17]
Tate Brown
And no one cracked.
- [84:18]
Tim Pool
I heard the Scottish figured it. I heard the Scottish invented fried chicken.
- [84:21]
Tate Brown
They fry everything. They fry, like, chocolate bars. They're like a bunch of freaks.
- [84:25]
Phil Labonte
Because there's a lot of Scottish people that came over to the US and they went into the south. And that's why part of the reason why it's Southern fried.
- [84:31]
Tate Brown
If you listen to, like, country music, it sounds remarkably similar. It's like Ulster folk music.
- [84:35]
Tim Pool
Yeah. No single person invented fried chicken. That's a lie. That. That is. That is. That is an absolute lie. There was a first person who did it. We all know it, but they say it came from ancient frying methods. With Scottish immigrants bringing deep frying techniques and West Africans contributing crucial seasonings, creating the iconic Southern dish in the American South. Mouth, bro. I don't care about your. Ain't your. Your secret spices.
- [84:55]
Tate Brown
It was a.
- [84:55]
Tim Pool
Care about it being deep fried.
- [84:57]
Craig Smith
It's a first interracial couple was born.
- [85:02]
Tate Brown
Group project. It's a very beautiful thing.
- [85:04]
Phil Labonte
But, yeah, if you look at what.
- [85:05]
Tim Pool
Happened was the Scottish guy was carrying his fresh fried chicken and he bumped into this West African woman who spilled all of her spices into his chicken bucket. And then they looked at each other and it was love.
- [85:13]
Phil Labonte
And they fell in love.
- [85:14]
Craig Smith
Oh, my God.
- [85:16]
Tim Pool
And then they were. They were hanged for imagination being illegal.
- [85:22]
Phil Labonte
So, yeah, the Scottish came to the South. Like a lot of Scottish people settled in this. In the U. S. South. And that's.
- [85:28]
Tate Brown
I was one of them. Are you 400 years ago?
- [85:30]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [85:30]
Phil Labonte
Well, yeah.
- [85:31]
Craig Smith
Aren't they the reason for the term. I don't want to say cracker.
- [85:37]
Tate Brown
The etymology of crackers is not certain.
- [85:40]
Tim Pool
Like, is that something your family history would know a lot about crackers?
- [85:44]
Tate Brown
We were broke.
- [85:46]
Tim Pool
You could afford.
- [85:49]
Tate Brown
We were more. The Irish was more fun.
- [85:51]
Tim Pool
Don't accuse my family of having slaves. We were poor.
- [85:53]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
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Tate Brown
We. The Irish sells a little more our. No. Yeah. Well, the common etymology that people explain for crackers, the whip cracking. But that's not actually true. It was referring. Yeah. I mean, you take it away.
- [86:03]
Tim Pool
Wasn't it because that there'd be, like, an old white guy in a rocking chair next to a barrel full of crackers outside of a convenience store.
- [86:09]
Craig Smith
That's funny.
- [86:10]
Tate Brown
No, they were. They were. The.
- [86:11]
Tim Pool
The.
- [86:11]
Tate Brown
The suspected etymology is that the Scots Irish, when they would ride on these chuck wagons because they were such hooligans. I'm using the Irish slur there intentionally is they would be cracking up. They would be laughing quite a bit. These Scots Irish, they barely work. There's a bunch of crackers. They're just cracking up here.
- [86:27]
Phil Labonte
Says.
- [86:27]
Ian Crossland
Comes from Middle English, cracker. Cracker, meaning a boaster, someone that boasts. And then from Shakespeare, a noisy boaster. One of his lines. What cracker is this same that deafs our ears. He's asking about the.
- [86:40]
Tate Brown
This is. My favorite etymology is. Do you know the etymology of hillbilly? So this is. This is a really interesting one. So if you go to Scotland and a lot of Protestants there identify as Billy Boys, and this goes back to William of Orange, obviously, he was this sort of Protestant insurgent, Insurgent king in England. And so a lot of the Protestants sided with them. So if you were siding with William of Orange, you were there for it. A Billy Boy. You were a supporter of King Billy. And so what happened is a lot of these Scots Irish from Ulster and a lot of Scottish migrants from, like, the lowlands then came to the United States, they still held that allegiance in some ways to King William of Orange. And since they moved into the Appalachians, they became Billy Boys, hillbilly boys. Hillbillies. So that's where the term. That one I'm 100% sure on.
- [87:24]
Ian Crossland
I was thinking about the history of the word cracker while you were talking, because it's like, if it means somebody that boasts and there's a bunch of black dudes in, like, 1820 or 1870 being like, yo, these don't shut the fuck. They talk so much shit.
- [87:36]
Tim Pool
They're crack. These are the crackers that we read about.
- [87:39]
Craig Smith
Vagrant class of, like, Irish people that lived, like, in the thirteen colonies, like in Georgia and places like that in the swamps.
- [87:47]
Mrs. Claus
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Craig Smith
Zoe. This thing weighs a ton.
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Tim Pool
Drew, ski lift with your legs, man. Santa.
- [87:53]
Tate Brown
Santa, did you get my letter?
- [87:54]
Tim Pool
He's talking to you, Bridges. I'm not that.
- [87:57]
Mrs. Claus
Of course he did.
- [87:58]
Phil Labonte
Right, Santa, you know my elf Drewski here.
- [88:00]
Tim Pool
He handles the nice list.
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Craig Smith
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Tim Pool
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Craig Smith
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Tim Pool
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- [88:46]
Tim Pool
Visit t mobile.com and they were really.
- [88:47]
Craig Smith
Like gangster tough guys. And they were referred to as that as well because they just kicked up a lot of dust, caused a lot of trouble, you know, I mean, rob people, you know, they were.
- [88:56]
Tim Pool
They call them crack. The problem with the. Like the left likes to push this. That it was the whip crack.
- [89:01]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [89:02]
Tim Pool
The problem is that the left only understands slavery as like field worker slavery, slaves being beaten. And it completely omits the entire economics of slavery, which is people were working in shops.
- [89:16]
Craig Smith
A lot of it was an indentured servitude too.
- [89:18]
Ian Crossland
Right?
- [89:18]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [89:19]
Tim Pool
Or evolved from.
- [89:20]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [89:21]
Tim Pool
Like they were slaves who were cobblers.
- [89:22]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [89:23]
Tim Pool
And they're making shoes. There's no whip crack for a guy working in a shoe store.
- [89:26]
Tate Brown
The interesting thing about slavery is actually was like the last thing holding back total industrialization because like for example, the British Empire struggled to really industrialize until they outlawed slavery because it propped up like a. What's the word I'm looking for? Propped up export of crops. Forget the word. It's. It's a grain. It propped up an agrarian society. This is why the north developed so much more quickly than the South. South is a. The south had, for a variety of reasons, a decentralized culture. This comes from the Normans, etc. But mainly because the south relied on slavery to prop up their agricultural industry. And they had no need to develop machines because labor was everywhere. It was cheap, it was essentially free in many ways. And so they never actually needed to develop machines because they had human labor versus in the north, where slavery was outlawed. They're just like, well, labor costs are really expensive. Let me just see if I can make a machine to eliminate the need for a human being. So, yeah, industrialization really took off following the outlaw of slavery.
- [90:16]
Craig Smith
And another element of that is a lot of single white males that came to this country during that time were indentured slaves and had to actually work for families if they didn't have children because the population was so low. If you didn't have a family and have children to give to the country, then you had to work as an indentured slave to a man who had children and a family and helped them tend to their farm and be productive citizens.
- [90:38]
Ian Crossland
Could you imagine if that happened today? I mean, I don't know that we'll go there, but they're like, we need a workforce. Every family gets a slave. As long as you have a child in the house, we'll get you one foreign worker that will be yours to do as you wish with.
- [90:49]
Tate Brown
Well, in many ways, I mean, there is compulsory, compulsory, compulsory, mandatory labor. That comes in part with like an H1B visa, because your status in the country is entirely dependent on your employer. So if you stop showing up to work, you're gonna get deported. You're fired and deported.
- [91:04]
Craig Smith
That's something controversial. If you have a loan, you're an indentured slave life. Yeah, so I mean, we sell debt, you know, I mean, we sell the. The debt of people who have loans to foreign people. So, yeah, I mean, if you have a debt man, you're.
- [91:15]
Tate Brown
That's the Christian ethic behind out, like the outlawing of usury. That's why we had usury laws, is because we said you were. A man would view you as less than if he held interest on you, if he held a debt over your head that was accumulating. And so that's why usury was a sin, because it would lessen your view of another individual. Because you're saying, this guy owes me a bunch of money and that interest is racking up. Usury was just charging interest on debt.
- [91:40]
Craig Smith
There's an interesting video on YouTube. I can't remember the guy's name because my brain isn't working. But they went around in the 30s and interviewed ex slaves, people who survived slavery. And they talked to this guy who was a slave about loans and debt, and he Just could not understand the concept. It's a great video to listen to. They asked him what he thought about interest rates and shit and he's like, man, basically what? Like if you can't afford it, why are you buying it? Like how I could owe you money, you know what I mean? Like I do the work and you give me what I need for the work and it's over with. So yeah, I think use.
- [92:14]
Tate Brown
I, I don't know if I have this entirely straight, but usury is still outlawed in Islam, widely accepted as a sin in Islam. So the way that a lot of these Islamic countries are able to bank like in the 21st century. Correct me if I'm wrong, Serge may know, but I believe what they do is they, they sort of estimate what the interest would be, how much interest would accumulate and they front load that. So you pay a fee up front in addition to your loan. So your actual loan doesn't accumulate interest. You're just paying a normal, you know, a standard rate throughout the duration of the loan. But the interest was front loaded at the beginning. So that's how people in the Middle east are able to like acquire like a mortgage or a long term loan.
- [92:49]
Ian Crossland
So you also got a million dollars, you get 700,000 of it and then you just have to pay back a million basically.
- [92:54]
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah. So you just, there's like, it's like a down payment in some ways. And that's how they're able to conduct banking in countries with usury law was. Yeah, I mean usury was banned in Europe until like the 15th, 16th century because they needed money for wars.
- [93:05]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean look, capital markets have, have really benefited the, the country largely. But I do think that because we don't educate people on how, how interest works and stuff, people end up getting completely and totally underwater all the time.
- [93:22]
Tate Brown
That's why Middle Eastern countries never have recessions is because they don't have, have huge debt crises. Crises struggling to say words today.
- [93:30]
Phil Labonte
It's probably got something to do with the oil that most of them are sitting on too.
- [93:33]
Tate Brown
That as well. But even countries, yeah, I mean Turkey would be a bad example, but they don't have economic recessions on like scheduled 10 year durations like we do in the west where it's like every 10 years there's pretty much a crisis that occurs.
- [93:45]
Phil Labonte
And I mean, I think in my opinion that's more of a product of the fiat system that we use as opposed to just having capital market markets.
- [93:55]
Craig Smith
Right?
- [93:55]
Phil Labonte
Like.
- [93:55]
Tate Brown
Yeah, that's true.
- [93:56]
Phil Labonte
When the government is Setting the interest rate because the. The price of money. Right. That's what your. That's what your interest rate is. It's how much it costs to borrow money. When the market itself sets the price of money, then you don't have the government trying to incentivize different areas by tax, by tax policy, or by not trying to get people to take out loans by lowering the interest rate or get people to not take out loans by increasing the interest rate. It's the manipulation of the market by the government that actually ends. Ends up, you know, sending. Sending mixed messages to the market.
- [94:26]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [94:27]
Phil Labonte
When you have. When you have a market that is allowed to price money at a certain.
- [94:31]
Tim Pool
At.
- [94:31]
Phil Labonte
At a rate that the market decides, then you don't have the same kind of like. Like the 2008 crisis wouldn't happened if the government wasn't saying, oh, we want people to be able to take out loans. And they were messing with the credit.
- [94:43]
Tim Pool
The.
- [94:43]
Phil Labonte
The credit. They were allowing people that didn't have good credit to take out more money in loans than they could actually pay back.
- [94:50]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [94:51]
Tate Brown
And that's why, like, the central banks across the world are always incentivized to keep inflation like 2 to 3%, because that, that stimulates your economy, that forces people to spend their money. Because if inflation's at 0%, people just sit on their money because it's not losing value.
- [95:02]
Tim Pool
I'm learning a lot, but I'm bored.
- [95:07]
Tate Brown
Can we go back. Can we go back to like the, The. The sexual. I just want to have fun.
- [95:12]
Tim Pool
Everybody can understand. Understand it. Look, we got one more day left. You know what I mean?
- [95:17]
Tate Brown
I'm sick of talking about interest rates.
- [95:19]
Tim Pool
Everybody's sick of listening.
- [95:21]
Ian Crossland
I'm also. I don't know. Scared's right word, but no. Regime change wars. This is a big part of my life now. Now you're for regime.
- [95:28]
Tim Pool
Yeah. Because it's boring to say the same thing for 10 years.
- [95:31]
Tate Brown
The balloons add a whole new.
- [95:32]
Ian Crossland
They'll wait you out.
- [95:33]
Tim Pool
He's right.
- [95:33]
Ian Crossland
This is how military orders work. They just wait for the populace to quit complaining. We haven't had a regime change war in fix 16 years. Don't worry. Don't worry. Now look the other way. We're gonna do regime change.
- [95:43]
Tim Pool
No, no, no, no, no. We haven't had one in 16 years. So now it's good because we get at least one every so often.
- [95:47]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [95:48]
Ian Crossland
Think about how this one will be different.
- [95:49]
Tim Pool
Hey, we launch rocks like little. Little or little cannonballs, but we tie hydrogen balloons to them. So they fly in the air, and then they land on the beaches of Venezuela. Then we can, you know, shoot them with Dragon's Breath. I think it's a particularly ineffective means of combat because maybe a bullet would just do a better job.
- [96:08]
Phil Labonte
But the range on Dragon's Breath isn't all that far.
- [96:10]
Tim Pool
So I think everyone's bored with hearing the same thing over and over again. So for the sake of just being entertaining, I'm in favor of regime change, war. Let's start with Canada.
- [96:18]
Tate Brown
You know, let's do 2v3. I'm in favor as well. Name a country, they probably be toppled.
- [96:23]
Tim Pool
I met this Canadian guy a few days ago, and I. And he. He was talking to me. He asked me, like, what I did. I said, I do politics. And he was like, oh. He's like, yeah, I'm from Canada. And I was like, oh, yeah, the Canadians hate me more than anybody. And he was like, why is that? And I was like, because I. I made a joke where I said we were gonna. And we're gonna conquer Canada and subjugate it.
- [96:38]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [96:38]
Tim Pool
And now they're like, no group of people wants to murder me more than Canadians.
- [96:41]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [96:42]
Phil Labonte
Then you wanted to fight you.
- [96:43]
Tim Pool
No, no. He laughing, and he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were there. He. He. He laughed. He's like, yeah, that sounds like Canada.
- [96:49]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [96:50]
Tim Pool
And I like, yeah, they. Everyone acts like they're polite, but they're sitting there waiting with a blade behind their back to get you.
- [96:54]
Ian Crossland
He was like, alberta guy, I think Alberta. And he was saying how different it was.
- [96:58]
Tim Pool
We got breaking news.
- [96:59]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [97:00]
Tim Pool
You haven't found an article yet. See, we got to verify this before I just blurt it out. Yeah, and why? On X. New York Times reporting the brown shooters found dead.
- [97:10]
Craig Smith
Dead.
- [97:10]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I just saw.
- [97:11]
Tate Brown
Whoa.
- [97:13]
Craig Smith
Was he brown?
- [97:14]
Tim Pool
I think he was, coincidentally, two minutes ago. Breaking news, ladies and gentlemen. Let's hit this. We got this story. I can't. I can't read it.
- [97:23]
Craig Smith
Oh, no.
- [97:24]
Tim Pool
I got to log in. All right, let's go back to trying to thank you for reading the Times. What does this say? That's so stupid.
- [97:34]
Tate Brown
They're nickel and diming us. This is the. It's a form of usury. Paywalls.
- [97:39]
Ian Crossland
Load times.
- [97:40]
Tate Brown
Load times.
- [97:41]
Ian Crossland
They just want extra money.
- [97:42]
Tate Brown
That's what it is.
- [97:43]
Ian Crossland
They want my time.
- [97:44]
Tate Brown
I noticed the ad always loads.
- [97:45]
Tim Pool
I'll just wait till someone else reports it, because otherwise I gotta log in, like, on YouTube.
- [97:50]
Tate Brown
All the ad loads in crystal clear 4K. And then the video doesn't Load that.
- [97:53]
Tim Pool
Person of interest. No, it's not the Brown shitter. Person of interest found dead. The authorities found the man's body in a storage unit in Salem.
- [98:02]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [98:02]
Tim Pool
Two law enforcement officials said. They added that they believe he was also connected to killing of an MIT professor this week.
- [98:08]
Craig Smith
That sounds. This is weird.
- [98:10]
Ian Crossland
It sounds like they're trying to shut it down.
- [98:11]
Craig Smith
Yeah. Did they find a note on him? How is he a person of interest? Like, you know what. Yeah.
- [98:16]
Ian Crossland
Who said they were a person of interest?
- [98:19]
Tim Pool
And was he brown?
- [98:20]
Tate Brown
The question still remains, is he a person of interest? An interesting person. Yeah.
- [98:25]
Tim Pool
They've not identified the person, but. Could this just be another. Another victim?
- [98:30]
Craig Smith
Them? It could be.
- [98:31]
Phil Labonte
It's possible.
- [98:32]
Tate Brown
Maybe it's the storage wars. It went kinetic.
- [98:35]
Tim Pool
No, what if. What's happening is that the Deep state has lost control for some time now. And so all the wet work they're doing in desperately clean up the. Yeah, they're trying desperately to regain control. So they're taking people out, but it's just they don't have the means of keeping under wraps anymore.
- [98:48]
Ian Crossland
So we're figuring out the Internet has changed at all.
- [98:50]
Tim Pool
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. We. We need to get more viewers on this show because it's like we're in the offseason. Israel did it.
- [98:59]
Tate Brown
Sounds about right. I don't know.
- [99:03]
Craig Smith
It was Anne Frank's great grandson.
- [99:06]
Phil Labonte
That's right.
- [99:08]
Tim Pool
Tony Frank. Wait, wait, how did she have a kid?
- [99:12]
Tate Brown
That's a good question.
- [99:14]
Tim Pool
Who's better?
- [99:14]
Ian Crossland
Israel.
- [99:16]
Tim Pool
It's all in the Diary of Anne Frank Part 2.
- [99:19]
Tate Brown
It's a DLC.
- [99:20]
Tim Pool
Yes.
- [99:21]
Tate Brown
It's like Mormonism.
- [99:22]
Phil Labonte
It's coming out seasons now, right? Every season.
- [99:26]
Tim Pool
You know, who can we blame? That will get us a lot of clicks.
- [99:30]
Phil Labonte
I mean, you just went to the Top Notch, right? Or Top Dog.
- [99:34]
Tate Brown
Pretty much as good as it gets, I think.
- [99:35]
Tim Pool
Yeah, there's gonna like, a bunch of chat and they're gonna be like, whoa, they're right. I didn't even say anything.
- [99:39]
Tate Brown
Well, Tim Cass gets it now. These guys finally.
- [99:42]
Tim Pool
No, they're gonna post things like. So close. Yeah, yeah, they're so close, Tim.
- [99:47]
Tate Brown
Now you're joking around. You got the call.
- [99:49]
Tim Pool
Yeah, I got the call. I did, yeah. But it wasn't. It was. It was Israel.
- [99:52]
Tate Brown
It's like, I'm getting the call, guys. Oh, Domino's.
- [99:55]
Ian Crossland
No, I got.
- [99:55]
Tim Pool
I got a call and it was a lot. And he asked me what I wanted from. For lunch and I. I said I wanted to get if they have gluten free.
- [100:02]
Craig Smith
Bread.
- [100:02]
Tim Pool
I get a roast beef with Swiss and, and mustard. I like the mustard. And he asked me what side I wanted and well, I said coleslaw, but I'm not gonna eat it. I mean just, you know, so I get whatever.
- [100:13]
Tate Brown
That's the most anti white thing I've ever heard. You're not eating coleslaw. Yeah, no, that's like person but like.
- [100:18]
Tim Pool
They give you that little thimble thing full of coleslaw. It's like I to don't want it.
- [100:20]
Tate Brown
Yeah, it's just like a sampler. Yeah.
- [100:22]
Tim Pool
What is that for? You just like squeeze it in your mouth and then you're done.
- [100:26]
Ian Crossland
Is like just vinegar, sugar and sugar.
- [100:29]
Tim Pool
Yeah, vinegar. Sugar and raw shredded cabbage with vinegar splashed on it.
- [100:37]
Craig Smith
Turn that up.
- [100:40]
Tim Pool
You know what I'm going to do?
- [100:41]
Phil Labonte
He was making funny.
- [100:42]
Tim Pool
I, I, I'm just, I've been feeling real dark lately over everything that's going, going on. So I think is everything all right on the floor? No. What I'm going to do is when we get back is I'm going to fill up a bowl with M&M's, but I'm to put like a little bit of Skittles in it.
- [100:54]
Tate Brown
Oh, that's something.
- [100:56]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [100:57]
Ian Crossland
That's culture jamming you do when you really.
- [100:59]
Tate Brown
That's going to, that's going to turn you into a person of interest.
- [101:02]
Tim Pool
What happens when the guests show up? They have a bowl of M&M's. I'm just going to sit there staring.
- [101:06]
Ian Crossland
Them like this waiting and they're going.
- [101:08]
Tim Pool
To be like, they're going to grab and go.
- [101:11]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [101:12]
Tate Brown
It overloads their sensory system. They have like a health crisis.
- [101:15]
Tim Pool
You know, you know what you do? You tell someone, you ask if they want milk, but then you give them orange juice.
- [101:21]
Craig Smith
Oh, oh.
- [101:22]
Tim Pool
Did ever happen to you?
- [101:23]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [101:23]
Tim Pool
And then your brain freaks out because it, it's like acidic. So it instantly tricks your brain into thinking it's spoiled.
- [101:29]
Tate Brown
That's what happened. That's my, my dad when he met his, his in laws for the first time. They made him coffee and they had salt in the sugar thing and so he was putting salt and he's like, their coffee is nast. But I can't say anything. I don't want to offend them. This is my first time. Choke down like three cups of salty.
- [101:42]
Phil Labonte
Same kind of thing. When you explain expect, expect still water and you end up with bubbly water. Like.
- [101:46]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Or when you're expecting water and it's pee.
- [101:49]
Tate Brown
What is that relatable?
- [101:52]
Tim Pool
I Mean, that makes sense.
- [101:53]
Ian Crossland
Just warm and salt because it's.
- [101:56]
Tim Pool
Because he bottles it and stores it, you know.
- [101:58]
Tate Brown
Yeah.
- [101:58]
Tim Pool
For later use.
- [101:59]
Ian Crossland
That was my brother's pee. He laughed and laughed.
- [102:03]
Tim Pool
You're really close to losing that call. She bet.
- [102:05]
Ian Crossland
Oh, man. What's the bet? What's the bet?
- [102:07]
Tim Pool
Before the show started, one of the chatters said that Kalshi is giving it a 57.4 chance that Ian will mention his penis.
- [102:13]
Craig Smith
No.
- [102:13]
Ian Crossland
Because the pee came out of his pe.
- [102:15]
Phil Labonte
Mine.
- [102:17]
Tate Brown
Completely different penis.
- [102:19]
Craig Smith
Coleslaw is crazy. That's going to cause a riot between the Aryan brothers and the blacks in prison, man.
- [102:24]
Tim Pool
Did you guys remember? You guys remember when the New York Times had to put peas in your guacamole? What? And it united. United the left and the right. Everybody really did. They like literally Jank uger and like Gavin MC were holding hands in outrage or. I'm kidding. Not those specifically, but literally. Everybody was like. Like they want. I want to punch the editor in the face who. Who told us put peas in our guacamole.
- [102:46]
Phil Labonte
There's a Fox News hit on the brown shooter.
- [102:48]
Tim Pool
That kid a brown shooter?
- [102:49]
Phil Labonte
Yes, he was.
- [102:51]
Craig Smith
He was what?
- [102:52]
Ian Crossland
Brown shooter. Brown shooter was white.
- [102:55]
Phil Labonte
From here we go.
- [102:57]
Mrs. Claus
A high place source has just told.
- [102:58]
Tate Brown
Fox News that the suspected shooter was found dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound.
- [103:04]
Tim Pool
We have a Fox News alert but they didn't confirm if the brown shooter was brown around.
- [103:08]
Ian Crossland
And this is just the. This is the 2P kill 2.
- [103:11]
Tim Pool
And maybe the MIT guy as well.
- [103:12]
Ian Crossland
That is a weird one. I cannot. I don't think those things are remotely related. That is bizarre.
- [103:18]
Phil Labonte
We'll find it.
- [103:19]
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- [103:49]
Ian Crossland
If this is a big ploy to get that MIT guy dead and then shut the whole thing down and be like, look, it was just some random thing that happened. Everybody go back to sleep.
- [103:57]
Tim Pool
Maybe.
- [103:58]
Ian Crossland
Maybe.
- [103:59]
Phil Labonte
We'll see.
- [104:00]
Tim Pool
I mean, maybe Ian drinks his own urine.
- [104:01]
Ian Crossland
No, my brother's urine. Shout out to Max.
- [104:05]
Tim Pool
I'm worried. I was very sure if he's joking.
- [104:07]
Ian Crossland
No, I will not joke. I was Pissed. I chased him into my parents room.
- [104:10]
T-Mobile Announcer
He was laughing and he jumped in my.
- [104:12]
Ian Crossland
I was like, you made me drink my pee. And they were like, it's not funny.
- [104:17]
Tate Brown
It's not funny.
- [104:18]
Phil Labonte
Why is it that you.
- [104:20]
Tim Pool
Is that what happened to you?
- [104:21]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [104:21]
Tim Pool
Like you were like a normal kid. Yeah. Like straight A's. And then you drank pee and this is what happened. Yeah. He went.
- [104:25]
Ian Crossland
He was like, hey, want some more?
- [104:26]
Tate Brown
You're a victim.
- [104:26]
Ian Crossland
Him, I was playing Nintendo and he was like, want some water? I was like, that was nice of him.
- [104:29]
Phil Labonte
Yeah, of course.
- [104:31]
Ian Crossland
Blue plastic cup that I couldn't see through.
- [104:33]
Phil Labonte
And I was like.
- [104:33]
Ian Crossland
Took a sip and I immediately.
- [104:36]
Phil Labonte
This is like a very woman thing to do. Like telling stories that are really embarrassing about yourself.
- [104:40]
Tim Pool
But he's been holding on this trauma for like 50 years.
- [104:43]
Ian Crossland
I think about it every few years. Yeah, he's healing right now.
- [104:46]
Tate Brown
And you're just mocking him.
- [104:47]
Phil Labonte
Yes.
- [104:47]
Tim Pool
You know. You know what? People are surprised to learn that Ian's 50 almost. And. And. But it's because he drinks pee 46.
- [104:53]
Craig Smith
What does this taste like?
- [104:54]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, like warm salty sweat.
- [104:57]
Tim Pool
That.
- [104:58]
Ian Crossland
With a little more.
- [105:00]
Tim Pool
A little more.
- [105:01]
Ian Crossland
A little. You know what I mean?
- [105:05]
Tate Brown
Cuz the aroma. The aroma present in the taste.
- [105:08]
Tim Pool
Hold on.
- [105:09]
Ian Crossland
Holding your sinus.
- [105:11]
Tate Brown
This is.
- [105:11]
Tim Pool
This doesn't sound like a story of you accidentally one time being tricked in a sip. Piss. Sounds like you do it a lot.
- [105:15]
Ian Crossland
Really?
- [105:15]
Tate Brown
Yeah. Sounds like you're a piss Somalier I may have framed.
- [105:18]
Phil Labonte
Was he. Was he dehydrated?
- [105:23]
Ian Crossland
Urine because it was in a solid.
- [105:24]
Phil Labonte
Blue plastic have a strong odor.
- [105:27]
Craig Smith
If he was.
- [105:27]
Ian Crossland
It wasn't strong. No, I didn't smell it coming up, so only when it was in.
- [105:31]
Tim Pool
So he was.
- [105:31]
Tate Brown
He was hydrated? Well, hydrated.
- [105:33]
Tim Pool
Have you ever had a s'? More? This is delicious.
- [105:36]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, like, I don't think so. No. His.
- [105:40]
Tim Pool
Would you drink it again, cousin? For 50 years.
- [105:43]
Ian Crossland
Would you take.
- [105:44]
Phil Labonte
Would you drink anything your brother gave you?
- [105:46]
Ian Crossland
Again, I don't know if you guys saw the after show with John Otto. He was actually talking about.
- [105:50]
Tim Pool
About.
- [105:50]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Studies that you're in. Therapy they call it where people drink.
- [105:54]
Tim Pool
Was like. You know, he had me going on this red light thing until he started talking about how he drinks his own urine. And now I'm not so sure.
- [106:00]
Ian Crossland
But apparently there's antibodies in it that get lost.
- [106:02]
Tim Pool
And a lot of it's just about regulating.
- [106:05]
Tate Brown
You just run it through the system in case you missed out any nutrients.
- [106:07]
Ian Crossland
I'm not trying to like spread the shame. I'm still feel you know, he got me. I drank his pee.
- [106:12]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [106:12]
Tim Pool
Have you tasted.
- [106:13]
Tate Brown
You ever.
- [106:14]
Tim Pool
Did you get revenge?
- [106:15]
Ian Crossland
Yes. One time he was peeing on the.
- [106:17]
Miti Health Announcer
The.
- [106:17]
Ian Crossland
The garage outside, and I was like, matt, you can't pee on the wall. And he was like. So I grabbed his, you know, penis and made him pee in his own face.
- [106:26]
Tim Pool
We were kids.
- [106:28]
Ian Crossland
That's what you do. Sorry, Max.
- [106:30]
Tim Pool
I've never done that. You never did that. Where did you grow up?
- [106:34]
Tate Brown
Epstein Isle.
- [106:35]
Ian Crossland
Just on a farm. Not really close to a farm.
- [106:38]
Tim Pool
God. Suburbs, you know, like, our viewer count is just dropping the more Ian talks about.
- [106:42]
Ian Crossland
It's my curse of blessing and a curse.
- [106:45]
Phil Labonte
I don't know about the blessing part.
- [106:47]
Craig Smith
Yeah, if you drink fish, you can guess his penis size. Like, be accurate with that.
- [106:51]
Tate Brown
Oh, right.
- [106:52]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [106:55]
Tim Pool
So I grabbed his penis and made a penis.
- [106:58]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [106:58]
Tate Brown
That's just a relatable childhood story, Tim. You know, some of us. I get monkey bars.
- [107:03]
Ian Crossland
I peed on him one time when he was really little.
- [107:05]
Craig Smith
Oh, this is crazy.
- [107:06]
Ian Crossland
That's. He was getting me back for that when he made me drink his pee.
- [107:09]
Tate Brown
And then. Did he respond after the.
- [107:11]
Tim Pool
No, we de.
- [107:12]
Ian Crossland
Escalated after that.
- [107:13]
Craig Smith
Did you gargle it?
- [107:13]
Tate Brown
There was an armistice.
- [107:14]
Ian Crossland
No, I just knew.
- [107:17]
Tate Brown
Do you see an instance where this kicks off again? Like the. The ceasefire breaks?
- [107:21]
Ian Crossland
No, I think we're good now.
- [107:22]
Tim Pool
Can you forgive him?
- [107:23]
Tate Brown
Yeah, The. The. The peace.
- [107:25]
Phil Labonte
I just want him to be the way to go. Magnanimous is the way to go.
- [107:28]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. You know, spread the love, you know, then his kids will be happier too.
- [107:32]
Tate Brown
Right. You don't want that generational trauma. So Trump actually ends with you.
- [107:36]
Phil Labonte
Trump actually did make Christmas and.
- [107:39]
Tim Pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [107:39]
Phil Labonte
So it's an executive order. So it's actually federal holiday. Okay.
- [107:42]
Tate Brown
All right.
- [107:43]
Tim Pool
We're gonna go to your Rumble Rants and super chats. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, you can't miss the uncensored portion of the show@rumble.com timcast irl. And shout out to my pillow. Oh, it just disappeared. I put it the wrong way. Anyway, Shout out to my pillow for making this week possible. We really do appreciate it. My pillow use promo code, Tim. Of course. There you go. Bang, bang. Save up to 80 off and free shipping with promo code, Tim. The best promo code. Everybody agrees. But we do got another sponsor for you, my friends. It is Bear Skin Tactical. Go to bear B, A, E, R, dot skin, slash. Tim, pick up your bear Skin hoodie now. I. I got. We got a bunch of these. They're actually really nice. Ian wears them all the time. It's getting cold now, so I gotta, I gotta get my born Vegas. It's not really cold out. So my friends, if you're, if you're trying to figure out what to get, you want to get a good Christmas present. Present, don't get anybody socks because that's, that's a trope. Unless they're like those really good high end ones. But what you can do is you can get them the 340gsm micro fleece bare skin hoodie. It's got 10 secure pockets, five highly secure zip pockets on the exterior, two interior zip pockets plus three secret interior drop pockets. Secrets. It's a three in one rain jacket. It zips into the 20k waterproof rated heavy storm jacket with protective outer shell. It's got a muscular build. And look at this guy.
- [109:01]
Craig Smith
Guy.
- [109:01]
Tim Pool
That could be you. You would look just like him if you want. That's right. That could be you.
- [109:05]
Craig Smith
Why would they tell us about the secret pockets?
- [109:08]
Ian Crossland
Well, you think you'd have to find them on your own.
- [109:10]
Craig Smith
I just want to discuss.
- [109:11]
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's like, it's like a surprise.
- [109:12]
Phil Labonte
You're hunting your clothes, you buy it.
- [109:14]
Tim Pool
And then you open it. There's extra pockets you didn't know about and it's like a freebie. Well, my friends, text Tim to 36912. That's Tim to 36912. And they'll shoot you a link where you can click it whenever you want. Maybe you're on the phone, maybe you're driving, maybe you're watching the World Series of Poker. Bahamas, like I wish I was. And then you can pick it whenever you want.
- [109:33]
Ian Crossland
I gotta say, those are nice. Those are really nice.
- [109:34]
Tim Pool
They're super good. I really like it. And they're. And the rain jacket, no joke, I.
- [109:37]
Ian Crossland
Haven'T worn that one yet. I've just won the fleece. Very nice, very nice.
- [109:40]
Tim Pool
Let's get your rumble rants and super chats. Shannon Wilder says Merry Christmas to all of you. I hope you all have a blessed one filled with love and family. I. You as well. You as well. Shippy says Trump is endorsing Tony Gonzalez over Brandon Herrera. Please, for the love of God, let him know that Tony is a traitorous rhino. Brandon is a million times better. Wait, hold on. Was Tony Gonzalez that guy where that lady lit herself on fire?
- [110:04]
Phil Labonte
That is the one, yes.
- [110:05]
Tate Brown
He's the football tight end.
- [110:07]
Craig Smith
That's what I'm thinking of. But I'm.
- [110:11]
Phil Labonte
He's the current congressman from that district. And yes, he is the. The guy that was alleged to have been having an affair with the woman that set herself on fire and died because they was. Was found set on fire. I'm not sure if it was actually self employed. Conflicted around.
- [110:26]
Craig Smith
All right.
- [110:27]
Tim Pool
A slice of reality says Tim. You should give Ian and Phil a bonus for dealing with last night's guest whose reality detachment made Candace's Charlie Kirk conspiracies look credible.
- [110:36]
Phil Labonte
It was fine.
- [110:37]
Craig Smith
That's the guy that kept cutting you off.
- [110:39]
Tate Brown
He was just doing a whole lot of Gish galloping.
- [110:41]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it was.
- [110:42]
Tim Pool
Well, the, the booking. The booking team knew that I was doing the poker stream.
- [110:47]
Ian Crossland
He had been, I think, scheduled for the SEC for Tuesday and he had canceled. So he wanted to meet up with you Tuesday, but he had some other engagements, so he had to miss it, though. It was pretty fun. I think it's more stressful for the audience than anybody on the actual show itself. Maybe you were, I mean, you were. I saw you moments where you were chomping at it, like getting ready to go to other times where you're just like, like, like I had to lock in sometimes.
- [111:10]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [111:10]
Phil Labonte
The audience wanted us to like start yelling, yelling back at him and stuff, you know?
- [111:14]
Tate Brown
You know, that was my first like on camera debate. So I need, I do need a bit of time. Time to sort of develop. And then I'll be yelling, I'll be crashing out.
- [111:22]
Phil Labonte
That's all they wanted.
- [111:23]
Ian Crossland
I hadn't prepped any of the facts that were brought up. And I'm like, I couldn't fact check everything.
- [111:27]
Tate Brown
Yeah. Because we were talking about like legal immigration. He's like, the interest rate. And I'm like, like what?
- [111:31]
Phil Labonte
Well, the thing is he wanted the, like, he was like I was saying earlier on, on the pre show, like he wanted to basically just posture and tell everyone how much he hated Trump was.
- [111:42]
Tim Pool
I'll give you some guys advice. Like a debate tip is when someone Gish gallops, just accuse them of drinking their own shit.
- [111:47]
Tate Brown
Urine.
- [111:48]
Ian Crossland
I smell it on you.
- [111:50]
Tim Pool
Yeah, but I mean, I don't want.
- [111:51]
Craig Smith
It anywhere near me.
- [111:53]
Ian Crossland
Thank you.
- [111:54]
Tim Pool
In all seriousness, this actually is a debate tactic that we were talking about the other day where Trump did that thing where he goes, I'm sorry, your brain is very bad. Anyone told you that? And he's like, it's a negotiation tactic.
- [112:05]
Craig Smith
That's an ad hominem.
- [112:06]
Tim Pool
But like apparently Trump was saying, use it as a negotiating tactic. So you're sitting down with a guy and he's like, look we can't afford to pay 200. He sits back and says, look, I'm sorry, sorry, I gotta move back. Your breath is terrible.
- [112:15]
Ian Crossland
With Brian, I thought about you at one point. I could have been like, hold on, hold on. You just brought up five points. You got to prove the first one before you move on to the second one. I could have done that and just. But I felt like it would have put like a stick in the spokes of the wheels of the show. So I was just like, look, man, just listen.
- [112:32]
Tim Pool
You know, our audience is just very smart.
- [112:35]
Phil Labonte
They are very smart.
- [112:36]
Tim Pool
They're high. You know, in all seriousness, though, I hear this so often from like people in the beltway about how everybody watches Tim cast irl. And I'm like, yes, everybody in high level politics and around the political space watches the show. That's not a lot of people. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's a big show. I'm just saying the perception that people in politics have is that this is like the biggest show ever. When it's not because it's the biggest show in their universe, or I shouldn't say biggest, but like one of the biggest shows in the political universe among the very small community of very politically active people.
- [113:11]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. I think it's a phenomenon where a lot of. I don't wanna say like the leader, the thought leaders. Sometimes you'll get shows where like the leaders watch that show because it's.
- [113:21]
Tim Pool
Well, it's because we, we use too big words. You know what I'm saying?
- [113:24]
Phil Labonte
Well, you can't overstate the cultural impact of the show.
- [113:26]
Ian Crossland
Right.
- [113:27]
Phil Labonte
Like people from Congress want to come here. People from D.C. they want to come here because you reach an audience that they're trying to. Trying to reach.
- [113:33]
Tim Pool
Yeah. So I think we just have to use smaller words.
- [113:38]
Ian Crossland
I agree.
- [113:39]
Tim Pool
And make more fart jokes.
- [113:40]
Craig Smith
No more.
- [113:41]
Phil Labonte
No more.
- [113:41]
Tim Pool
Next year is going to be all about fart jokes, toilet humor. And we're gonna, we're gonna do. We're gonna bring back the. The soundboard.
- [113:50]
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
- [113:50]
Tim Pool
With Greta Thunberg going, how dare you? How dare you? How dare you.
- [113:53]
Phil Labonte
No more big words.
- [113:56]
Tate Brown
Invitation in the new year.
- [113:57]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, yeah. A big word from Tate that we can put on repeat on the thing.
- [114:00]
Phil Labonte
Thing.
- [114:00]
Tim Pool
No, no, we got to get like hot moments every other week.
- [114:03]
Phil Labonte
Like we had no more deracination.
- [114:06]
Tim Pool
Cheat an election. Cheat an election.
- [114:10]
Ian Crossland
You could cocoa melon saying graph.
- [114:13]
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah. We should be like maximizing our Coco Melon style aesthetics.
- [114:16]
Tim Pool
How funny would be if, like in one year from now it's just all toilet humor that barely talks about news. The viewership is like 10x and politicians are like, I want to. Come on.
- [114:25]
Ian Crossland
That's how Trump got elected.
- [114:26]
Tate Brown
We put a picture of Trump up. Picture of AOC.
- [114:31]
Phil Labonte
Actually, that'd be kind.
- [114:32]
Tate Brown
Of sitting around.
- [114:35]
Tim Pool
Just. Just randomly, like, search. It's a button and AOC appears on the screen. We go, gross. And then there's a. We just flash on the screen. It says, laugh now.
- [114:48]
Tate Brown
Yeah, I.
- [114:48]
Tim Pool
You are having fun.
- [114:50]
Tate Brown
You are enjoying the show. We do that. Like and subscribe. Like and subscribe is like, you know, dangling some keys.
- [114:56]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [114:56]
Tim Pool
I feel like the show is very much too hoity toity. You know, it's like, if you insist upon watching this show to learn more, please click the like button. Instead of being like, if you don't click the like button, I'm a. You're gay up.
- [115:07]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, if it was on Rumble only. Not that there's no. You still have to censor yourself a little bit. Like, you can't say things that would be construed as illegal. But I'd be flying if we were on like a non censored.
- [115:18]
Craig Smith
For me, I say crazy stuff on.
- [115:20]
Tim Pool
My show on YouTube.
- [115:22]
Craig Smith
Oh, yeah?
- [115:22]
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Like.
- [115:23]
Phil Labonte
Like, what do you.
- [115:24]
Craig Smith
What do you say?
- [115:25]
Tim Pool
What do you say?
- [115:25]
Craig Smith
It just depends on how I feel. My show is all about jokes, so I don't have no, you know what?
- [115:30]
Tim Pool
If you feel real good, I mean.
- [115:31]
Craig Smith
Then I'm gonna say some real good stuff. You know what I mean?
- [115:34]
Tim Pool
I like that. You know, upbeat, everybody's happy. Ian's drinking his own piss. I'm open to that, actually.
- [115:40]
Tate Brown
Bottoms up. Yeah, John Otto convinced me on the after show.
- [115:44]
Phil Labonte
Could we pissing my mouth tomorrow night. End of the year show. Ian drinks at least a shot glass of urine.
- [115:51]
Ian Crossland
Real talk. I have to pee right now. Cup right here.
- [115:55]
Tate Brown
Well, you've drink your own PE on the after show. It's our last after show of the new.
- [115:59]
Ian Crossland
Got nervous. He thought I'd say, yes, you want.
- [116:02]
Craig Smith
To drink my piss.
- [116:03]
Ian Crossland
I don't think we're supposed to drink.
- [116:04]
Phil Labonte
Each other's after show tomorrow. The last after show of the year.
- [116:10]
Tate Brown
This is the last after show of the year, so this needs to get done.
- [116:12]
Tim Pool
Stick around.
- [116:13]
Phil Labonte
Ian's going to drink his pee tonight.
- [116:14]
Ian Crossland
I will neither confirm nor deny that fact.
- [116:17]
Tim Pool
NNY says it's really unsightly that Phil was left to deal with a giant golem Gollum conjured by bad Reddit takes while Tim plays cards.
- [116:26]
Tate Brown
That is just not nice to say about me. I mean, I'm like, you know, I try my best, but I. I killed it yesterday.
- [116:31]
Tim Pool
Live. Live's pro. But she was running so hot, and she played very well. But I played. I won two hands the whole night.
- [116:38]
Ian Crossland
Speaking of.
- [116:38]
Tim Pool
Tell the.
- [116:39]
Ian Crossland
I haven't even heard the story yet.
- [116:40]
Tim Pool
What happened.
- [116:41]
Ian Crossland
I haven't heard the story of your tournament or seen the show or anything.
- [116:44]
Tim Pool
I don't know why everyone keeps saying tournament. I thought it's like people are all mentally retired. Game. I thought it was literally every single person is. Is retarded.
- [116:50]
Ian Crossland
An exhibition.
- [116:50]
Tim Pool
It was a cash game, a single poker game. And did the blinds go up no matter how many. No. The cash game.
- [116:58]
Ian Crossland
Could you rebuy?
- [117:00]
Tim Pool
Yes. I didn't have to.
- [117:01]
Craig Smith
Okay.
- [117:01]
Tim Pool
I'm a winner.
- [117:02]
Ian Crossland
How many rebuys did you get?
- [117:04]
Tim Pool
What do you mean? Cash game?
- [117:06]
Ian Crossland
Well, then the guy with unlimited money would win every game.
- [117:08]
Tim Pool
You can only buy in for 5K. Yes.
- [117:09]
Ian Crossland
Okay.
- [117:10]
Tim Pool
Yeah. And. And I think one dude bought in like 15k. They kept losing. Losing King Cap.
- [117:17]
Phil Labonte
Shame.
- [117:17]
Tim Pool
He was. I think it was a second. Was he second lowest, maybe? He might have been third lowest. He was funny, though.
- [117:25]
Phil Labonte
He was good. Buying three times.
- [117:26]
Ian Crossland
Who was it?
- [117:27]
Tim Pool
King Cap. Oh, yeah, He's a funny guy.
- [117:29]
Phil Labonte
He was.
- [117:29]
Tim Pool
Him and Jared, real funny guys.
- [117:30]
Ian Crossland
Nikki Limo was on it. I've known her from back in the day.
- [117:33]
Tim Pool
She got crushed. The thing was that Haley, she's really good and doesn't care if she loses like 20 grand. So I just played the hands that I could play, and I had people saying, like, tim, you didn't even play. I'm like, bro, give me anything to play. I played five, six suited, early position.
- [117:51]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [117:51]
Tim Pool
Because I wasn't trying to play nitty, but I didn't have anything. I'm like, you want to play King three off suit. I'm not playing that.
- [117:57]
Ian Crossland
Right. We were talking about. Because you wanted to be entertaining. You're doing a show. It's not just about winning, you know.
- [118:02]
Tim Pool
But I wanted to play well, so I didn't want to just sit there. So in one instance, my favorite hand of the night, I folded because people don't know a good poker is. Is I had nine, ten suited under the gun, which is a very loose open. And so. But I'm like, I don't want to sit here all night not playing. So I got 910. I'll play it. We'll see what happens. And then I think what happens, it calls or it calls around like four. Four or five players. I think, actually, I think it was like six players. The flop comes out nine, two, five with two hearts.
- [118:25]
Tate Brown
Two, five.
- [118:26]
Tim Pool
And so I got top pair with a flush redraw, which is really strong. And then I bet 140. And then Haley bets 500 right away because, like, I. I knew exactly what she was doing. She had five deuce. She had two pair. And then I think it folds to live. Who raises to 1600. And I'm like, she's obviously got a set fold.
- [118:48]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [118:49]
Tim Pool
And the announcer's like a huge fold from pool because. Yeah, giving up top pair with a flush redraw. I could have won, but she hit a boat and I would have lost. And folding was the right move. I was way behind. Two pair to my left and a set to my right. I was behind. Behind. I was, you know, but technically I was 30% with dead money in the pot. So I could have went for it and I would have lost. But I was. I. I thought it was a good move.
- [119:10]
Tate Brown
It looks like the police have done a press conference and they've identified the shooter now.
- [119:14]
Craig Smith
Oh.
- [119:14]
Tim Pool
All right, let's get it. Here we go.
- [119:16]
Ian Crossland
An individual was identified as Claudio Nevis Valenti, date of birth, and he was a 48 year old man.
- [119:25]
Tim Pool
He sounds Brown. He was a student.
- [119:29]
Ian Crossland
He was a Brown student. His last known address was in Miami, Florida.
- [119:34]
Craig Smith
Whoa. And I will tell you that he.
- [119:36]
Ian Crossland
Took his own life tonight. We have members of the Providence police department up in Salem, New Hampshire, and we also have the BCI unit, obviously the FBI and their evidence recovery unit is up there. So the process is being conducted as we speak. And it goes without saying that I would like to personally thank the efforts.
- [119:55]
Tim Pool
Again of the province police department department.
- [119:57]
Ian Crossland
The Rhode island state police, the Rhode island attorney general, the FBI, the atf, hsi, the U. S. Marshals, irs, dea, everyone, secret service.
- [120:17]
Tate Brown
All right, so. So we know he was a Brown student. Now, did he attend Brown university? That's the question.
- [120:21]
Craig Smith
I still don't know.
- [120:22]
Tate Brown
Yeah, he was a Portuguese national, so he wasn't.
- [120:25]
Tim Pool
It was a non. It was a legal permanent resident.
- [120:26]
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
- [120:27]
Craig Smith
Was this English good enough to lead a press conference?
- [120:30]
Ian Crossland
That guy, you go straight to jail. That man, he also straight to jail.
- [120:35]
Tim Pool
That man, he is dead.
- [120:36]
Tate Brown
That man, he died.
- [120:37]
Ian Crossland
Yeah, he.
- [120:39]
Tim Pool
He held it down.
- [120:40]
Phil Labonte
Accents are fine.
- [120:41]
Tate Brown
This is the Brown.
- [120:42]
Tim Pool
Remember when Shane Gillis got fired because he did a Asian accent or whatever?
- [120:47]
Tate Brown
Yeah. It was a good one, too.
- [120:48]
Tim Pool
It was too. And as an Asian man myself, I was. My heart was warmed that he was including me. And then they fired him because they were racist.
- [120:55]
Phil Labonte
That was unfortunate.
- [120:56]
Tate Brown
Yeah. Temp guys. Viewers don't know it's Tim sounds like he puts this accent on for the show, but he actually sounds like that when the cameras are off. It's really strange. But he's professional. He's professional.
- [121:05]
Tim Pool
Yeah. This is an affectation. This is. I, I, I studied very, very hard to be able to speak proper English because normally I talk like this.
- [121:11]
Tate Brown
It's true.
- [121:11]
Ian Crossland
If you ever wonder why behind the scenes.
- [121:13]
Tim Pool
If you watch the uncensored portion of the show on rumble.com timcast irl.
- [121:17]
Phil Labonte
What are you doing?
- [121:18]
Ian Crossland
If you ever think Tim seems stressed on camera, it's because he's trying to do that goofy accent. His American accent.
- [121:23]
Tim Pool
It drains my focus. Normally I can do like, like 16 digit divided by like decimals. Just boom, pop my head instantly. But constantly focusing and struggling to talk. All good.
- [121:35]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [121:35]
Phil Labonte
When he's off camera and he gets mad, he just starts talking in binary.
- [121:38]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [121:39]
Tate Brown
It's really, it's really something to see the tone.
- [121:42]
Tim Pool
We got some super chats here. We got. What does that say? I can't read so small. What is that? Mama. Mama. Mama. Otter. There's two M's in there. Tim. Thank you for calling out Candace. Agree with you. 100. I've been a Tim cast member for four years and it's moments like that I've never regretted my membership. Well done. Fine sir. You do you. You have my support. Merry Christmas. Here's your year end bonus. Thank you so much. I really do appreciate it. Guys. The rally is like talking with Graham too. We lose viewers by calling her out for lying. But she's lying. She's lying nonstop. I'll just say it again. According to my sources in the security. I'm saying this because I want to be very clear. I don't want you to be misled in any way. My sources in the security industry have confirmed to me Candace used the same security Charlie did at certain points of her career. Whatever. I don't know. I'm not saying she's doing it right now because I don't think she is. And she's lying. When. And she's using weasel words like I never employed them. Right. Because they were hired on her behalf or something like this. But come on. She worked with Turning Point. Of course she'd go to an event with the same security people, the same exact people that she accused. Like claim, we're going to these crazy meetings. She's making it up and she doesn't care. Bridget, there's Pictures of Bridget Brigitte McCraum from, like 40 years ago. It's a woman. And Brigitte macron is like 5, 4, and 110 pounds like a woman. It's just so weird that this poor old lady got nasty plastic surgery, looks all weird, and she goes, that's a guy. And people eat it up. That's crazy.
- [123:18]
Phil Labonte
Candace just rolling the grifter grifter dollars.
- [123:21]
Tim Pool
It's really obvious, though. Did you guys see that thing she did where she was like, if you want to help with my security, go give me money on my website.
- [123:28]
Phil Labonte
Oh, God.
- [123:29]
Tim Pool
And buy my book and my really awesome merch. And I'm just like, there it is. Slather it on, you know, oh, no. My security, quick donate to me.
- [123:38]
Phil Labonte
She's making that money. But, you know, a lot of people have now started to turn against her because the whole stuff with Erica and meeting with Erica and all the stuff that she said after.
- [123:47]
Tim Pool
So what she did in her video, she was like, these Zionists are dangerous people, and they want to kill me, so I need your money. And it's just, like, so obvious. Well, that there are really low cognitive capability Americans, okay, We call them Tylenol Americans, and they, they don't understand. So when she says the Zionists are out to get me, they go, whoa.
- [124:12]
Phil Labonte
She's catering to people that already have a certain perspective. They already believe that, you know, the Zionists control everything. And those people, they're just like, all right, Candace is the one that's, that's saying what I want to hear. So they just go ahead and they say, all right.
- [124:25]
Craig Smith
Right.
- [124:25]
Phil Labonte
I'll give you money if you keep telling me what I want.
- [124:27]
Tim Pool
What's a group of people that we can single out and demagogue against that will make us rich but, like, won't get us canceled. Like, I guess for, for Candace, it's the Jews, but I don't want to go there. That's, that's just, that's just mean little people. Little, little people.
- [124:40]
Tate Brown
I'd say we can go for the, if you look throughout media, little people.
- [124:42]
Tim Pool
Who want a home for the Jews, right?
- [124:45]
Tate Brown
I think we go like the Irish. They control a lot of these. Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, hello, wake up, America.
- [124:51]
Tim Pool
But when yay. Came on the show, we looked up who actually ran the big banks in America, and it was a bunch of Irish guys.
- [124:57]
Tate Brown
The Irish, I'm telling you, it's a big problem.
- [124:59]
Tim Pool
Irish Mafia, dude.
- [124:59]
Tate Brown
I got the call. I couldn't understand it. It's too drunk it's true.
- [125:03]
Tim Pool
It was in Gaelic. No one speaks. That's a dead language. And they were like, how dare you? Yeah, and they're bringing it back though.
- [125:10]
Tate Brown
It's true. Yeah, do your research.
- [125:11]
Tim Pool
Well, yeah, friends, the Irish want to get me because they want, you know, a home for the Irish.
- [125:19]
Craig Smith
They want all their marshmallows back from the Lucky Charms.
- [125:21]
Tim Pool
Right. And you know what? If they get me, then I'm gonna die because. Yeah, you know, so you got to give me money. Really, the only way to stop the Irish from taking my life is for you to give money to me.
- [125:37]
Phil Labonte
Go to timcast.com, become a member and.
- [125:39]
Tim Pool
Then I'll, you know, I don't know. Buy, buy. Gluten free.
- [125:41]
Phil Labonte
Join the discard pizza with it. Fight the Irish.
- [125:43]
Tim Pool
Fight.
- [125:44]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [125:44]
Tim Pool
Yeah.
- [125:44]
Craig Smith
They're looking for revenge because of the potato famine. Yeah.
- [125:47]
Tate Brown
They're mad about. They're mad they don't stop talking about it.
- [125:50]
Tim Pool
Did we do that? Did we famine them? I don't think we did.
- [125:55]
Tate Brown
I wasn't around, but maybe I hold some culpability.
- [125:57]
Tim Pool
Here's a funny one from an. From an invalid. Buffalo Bill says Tim said he couldn't afford to make the show. You want to watch him gamble with money you gave him? He's going to lose. He's not the one bleeding subscribers as he screams about Candace and I don't like her. Timcast IRL is up like 70,000 subscribers this month. My other channel, the solo channel where I made a bunch of videos by Candace is down about 4k. The money for the poker game, it's sponsors because I'm on a channel with a million subs at the world poker tournament championships. So other companies are like, we want you to represent us. And they sponsored me so I don't have to actually gamble my money.
- [126:34]
Ian Crossland
I have some news here about the Irish. The potato blight was caused by a fungus like pathogen phyto up thora infestance which did come from the Americas.
- [126:47]
Phil Labonte
You know, be really taking it back.
- [126:49]
Tim Pool
It'd be really funny if you know, like 10 years from now there's this mass movement against the Irish and they're just like the Irish are taking over and control our government.
- [126:57]
Craig Smith
Yeah.
- [126:57]
Tate Brown
And they're like, we need a homeland for the Irish has been run over with Pakistanis.
- [127:01]
Craig Smith
Well, they sent him to Catalina Island. That's what we.
- [127:04]
Tate Brown
That's an option.
- [127:05]
Phil Labonte
The Irish weren't in charge when Joe Biden was president. Right. Isn't he Irish and the Kennedys Irish?
- [127:10]
Tate Brown
The Kennedys are Irish. Very Irish.
- [127:11]
Ian Crossland
A lot of Irish influence.
- [127:13]
Tim Pool
Advanced hunt. Advanced hunter says. Hey, everyone. I'm a longtime listener. Just wanted to let everyone know I'm currently in labor and delivery awaiting the birth of my first child. Merry Christmas.
- [127:23]
Phil Labonte
Bravo.
- [127:24]
Tate Brown
Welcome to the world, patriot. We have a lot of work to do.
- [127:27]
Tim Pool
We do.
- [127:28]
Tate Brown
Start reading.
- [127:29]
Tim Pool
Love to hear it.
- [127:29]
Phil Labonte
Start reading.
- [127:31]
Tim Pool
I love this post right here from Buffalo Bill. He's cognitively impaired, but it's okay. We don't mind. He gave me. He's giving me money to complain about me, bro. You can. You can. You can call me all the names in the book as long as you're paying me to do it. He says. Candace150k Tim 17. I don't like either, but he should have listened to Milo if he wants to fund the compound. Bro, I would take this keyboard and I would smash every piece of equipment I had before I ever went. Candace Owens route. She is a. A vile human being who lies to cognitively impaired individuals like you because you are so stupid. You have just given me $20 that I'm going to use. I'm going to put it on roulette just for you and. And gamble it. You're giving me money to complain about me, bro. Keep going, keep going. Come on. I'll read them all. This is the thing about candidates and what she does. She targets the people that are too dumb and she has no scruples. Graham and I, as we pointed out on the show, we will lose viewers if to do what's right and we're proud of them. I don't need the money. I'm not gonna brag about being the biggest podcast in the world because I'm not a retard who just does this so that you can click buttons. I don't need it. I will do other things for fun. There are things in this world that need to be fixed. There are things in this world that are broken. Candace is the person who breaks them because she is evil. We are the people who try to fix them. And you, sir, are a follower of evil. I hope one day you realize that. But if not, just keep giving me your money because apparently you're not smart enough to recognize. I like taking it from you.
- [129:11]
Phil Labonte
If you give him $100, you can actually pick what he bets your $20 on to roulette. Go ahead and just $100 and tell him, you know, red blood back.
- [129:21]
Tim Pool
All right, all right. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Says Tim calling out King Cap over here based. Oh, I don't know. I thought. I thought it Was really funny. Him and Haley were just screaming at each other the whole time. It was hilarious. But the thing is like Haley plays well and crazy and it's. And, and she's. She's willing to flip off her whole stack no matter what you have. There was one hand where I actually could have played it better, but I would have lost everything. So I'm happy that I played it the way I did. I had ace king under the guy gun and I knew she was going to raise no matter what I did. And she had junk. She had six, eight. She had junk. But of course she was going to because she was like, she got lucky. She got to my left. So I limp 10 bucks. She insta raises it, it comes around, I call the 40 bucks, miss the flop and I'm out. If I had raised there, she'd have re raised me. It would have gotten back to me and then I would have re raised, she would have jammed and then I'd rather have to flip or fold and she would hit two pair and beat me and I would have lost six grand. So you can say that I shouldn't play as king that way. You're probably right. But the way things were running out and the way she was playing, I think I played it well.
- [130:20]
Ian Crossland
Who is Haley, by the way?
- [130:22]
Tim Pool
Haley Hannah. She plays crazy, but she's actually pretty smart how she does it because every so often you don't know when she's being crazy or actually she actually has it. That's kind of the point, my friends. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, we got the uncensored portion of the show coming up tomorrow. Tomorrow is going to be crazy. I mean, coming up at 10 o', clock, tomorrow's gonna be crazy. We've got house inhabit and Colonel Kurtz coming on the morning for the culture war show to talk about all these conspiracy theories and what Candace is on about what she's doing. So I'm sure it'll be contentious and all that jazz. Whatever. You can follow me on X and Instagram. Timcast. Craig, you want to shout anything out?
- [130:58]
Craig Smith
Hey man, buy my comedy album coming out soon. It's called Black Underwear, the shit you can't see. Purchase all my Chill Withers albums, man. Thank you for having me on the show, man. You guys are all very brilliant guys, man. I enjoyed listening to you speak. And if I owe you something, get it from God.
- [131:17]
Tate Brown
I love that. Well, you can follow me on X and Instagram @realtate Brown. Thank you guys for watching the noon live this week. I loved hosting it from here. It was a lot of fun. You guys gave me some great feedback. Today's interview with Amber Duke where we broke down the compact article everyone's talking about. We, we chatted, had a great conversation about it and she knows her stuff. You got to go check it out. It's up on the Culture War Channel. So see you there.
- [131:37]
Ian Crossland
You find me at Ian Crossland at all across the Internet at Ian Crossland and also go to Graphene Movies. Sign up for the mailing list. The movie I'm producing, Graphene Movie. We went on to Rice University, interviewed some excellent scientists and groundbreaking future tech. You're going to want to see it at Graphene Movie. Check me out there.
- [131:54]
Phil Labonte
Phil Labonte I am Phil that Remains on Twix. The band is all that Remains. We are going on tour next year. Tickets are available. Tomorrow it's going to be all that Remains, Born of Osiris and Dead eyes. We start April 29th in Albany and it goes through until May 23rd. Get your tickets tomorrow. You can check out all that Remains at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
- [132:18]
Tim Pool
We will see you all@rumble.com Timcast IRL for the uncensored show. Thanks for. Thanks for hanging out.
- [132:30]
Craig Smith
Sa.