Mitch McConnell Presumed DEAD w/ Dean Cain & George Santos

Summary

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Timcast IRL – Mitch McConnell Presumed DEAD w/ Dean Cain & George Santos

Date: July 11, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast)
Guests: Dean Cain, George Santos, Ian Crossland
Purpose: Unfiltered panel discussion dissecting viral news, U.S. politics, culture, tech, the economy, and media—from panelists’ varied (and often clashing) perspectives.

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Overview

This episode is a sprawling, high-energy conversation headlined by breaking rumors and viral speculation over the alleged death or incapacitation of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. What starts as grim political rumor spirals rapidly into deep dives on the economy, AI in media, generational divides, immigration, housing bubbles, pop culture, and American societal decay. No topic is too controversial or too silly—from casino wins to Hollywood’s decline to monkeys riding deer. The panel includes Dean Cain (actor, former NFL player, law enforcement supporter), George Santos (expelled former congressman, provocateur), Ian Crossland (co-host, futurist), and, as always, Tim Pool directing the dialog.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mitch McConnell Rumors and Political Fallout

• Premise: Viral rumors and memes claim McConnell is dead or comatose (00:00).
  • “Many people presume him to be either brain dead or dead... McConnell being seen loaded into an ambulance. There's speculation as to the reason they want to avoid the governor potentially appointing someone the Republicans will not like, shifting the balance in the Senate.” — Tim (00:00)
• Satirical commentary on internet memes; panel refuses to gloat over illness (“schadenfreude culture”).
  • “I’m just not interested in this... gloating over the suffering of others.” — Tim (06:47)
• Consensus: Depoliticize illness and death, denounce online cruelty even as they recognize tribal internet culture drives much of modern political discourse.

2. Viral Tribes, Internet Memes, and the "Cult" of Politics

• Trump’s fanbase and the left's tribalism: Both sides have cult tendencies, but Tim argues the “modern left” is more vitriolic.
  • “There’s culty Trump people... But the modern left is a bigger problem with vitriol, violence, threats, terrorism, of course.” — Tim (08:36)
• Generational media “purity tests” and why friendships across ideology are shamed on social platforms like X.
  • “There’s this purity test that you have to pass in order to even be accepted, apparently.” — George Santos (07:33)

3. Trump and the Housing Bill Crisis — Bleak Economic Outlook

• Trump reportedly refuses to sign a bipartisan housing bill that would ban institutional investors from buying residential homes (27:21).
• Panel predicts massive generational wealth wipeout and housing market collapse as Boomers die off, fewer young people buy homes.
  • “If you’re holding stocks, you’re cooked. But cash is king at that point.” — Tim (28:23)
• Generational breakdown: Gen Z/Alpha too small/poor to absorb all inherited homes; housing price collapse parallels Japan’s property deflation.
  • “There are not enough young people to absorb all of the houses. ...Gen Alpha is non-existent.” — Tim (31:19)

4. Social Security: Looming Insolvency and Political Gridlock

• Extensive debate on Social Security’s demise as elderly outnumber workers.
• No workable political solution: impossible to cut retirees, impossible to refund younger generations.
  • “No voting bloc is going to allow you to take away their entitlements.” — Tim (43:19)
• George proposes a radical phase-out; panel bemoans hyperinflation, mass revolt, and political cowardice.

5. AI, Media, and the Collapse of Culture

• The “Obfuscation Age”: AI-generated videos, fake podcasts, viral misinformation, and decentralized deception eroding reality.
  • “Now it’s just like decentralized obfuscation. ...It’s more like a dude in China making an AI video to trick you in West Virginia.” — Ian (16:35)
• Dean Cain, as a filmmaker, discusses using AI for movie B-roll, Suno for automating music production. Tim wrote an entire book using Claude AI (19:54–21:12).
• Memorable moment:
  • “I wrote a book last Saturday. It took about an hour or two... It’s 80,000 plus words.” — Tim (20:54)

6. Pop Culture Round-Up: Old Media vs. New Fandoms

• Panelists lament the decline of original, ambitious movies in favor of algorithmic, risk-averse reboots and “mystery box” storytelling.
• AI will soon generate custom movies and podcasts; future creators may be fully digital.
• Group digression on anime, cartoon nostalgia (“Sailor Moon,” “Justice League,” “Dragon Ball Z”) and superhero archetypes.
• Dean Cain shares behind-the-scenes Hollywood stories (esp. about Batman movies and TV’s Lex Luthor).

7. Nature Tangents and Comic Book Debates

• Burst of animal videos, wildlife trivia, monkey/deer viral stories, and discussions about the blurred line between reality and AI-generated scenes.
• Extended riff on Batman/Superman morality, injustice, and the problem with villains who never die.
  • “Batman goes out of his way every single day to fight the Joker and never solves the problem.” — Tim (67:24)
  • Tim’s AI comic experiment: ChatGPT allows Superman to be shot but blocks an image of Joker being shot, highlighting perceived AI political bias (70:31).
  • “You can have a woman shoot Superman... But if she shoots Joker, that violates the rules. It shows you the political alignment of these people.” — Tim (70:34)

8. Health, Aging, and Personal Routines

• Dean Cain and others talk clean living, the anti-aging effect of quitting alcohol, European foods, and use of NAD/infrared saunas.
• Debate on legal/illegal substances, NFL weed policy, the effects of GMO plants on human health.

9. Hollywood, Law Enforcement, and Moving Beyond L.A.

• Dean sheds light on leaving Malibu, joining law enforcement during “defund the police,” and negative fallout from Hollywood tribalism (113:14).
• “I think police officers are phenomenal human beings... When it was the defund the police time, I did the exact opposite.” — Dean Cain (112:13)
• George, as usual, revels in controversy but ultimately expresses loyalty (“I call AOC or Pelosi idiots, but if a foreigner tries to harm them, we have a problem!” — 117:07).

10. Party Politics: Superdelegates and Democratic “Coronations”

• Explainer: how party elites use procedural rules to handpick nominees (Platner, Kamala Harris, etc.).
• Disillusionment with the “democratic process,” superdelegates’ power, and the small elite that truly decides candidates.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On gloating over opponents’ suffering
  • “The celebrating of the schadenfreude... makes me want to barf.” — Tim (06:47)
• On AI making fiction reality
  • “Now it’s just like decentralized obfuscation. ...A dude in China making an AI video to trick you in West Virginia.” — Ian (16:35)
• On generational economics
  • “Boomers are at the mortality shelf... Their properties are going to be inherited by people who don’t want to live in them.” — Tim (29:35)
• On the AI future of content
  • “Who’s even gonna want to watch a show like this when I can just click a button and say: AI generated episode where Tim and Ian argue about graphene?” — Tim (47:36)
• Superman/Batman morality loop
  • “Batman goes out of his way every single day to fight the Joker and never solves the problem.” — Tim (67:24)
• On party politics’ illusion of democracy
  • “These private companies... changed their rules and let the superdelegates choose again, and they chose Kamala.” — Ian (120:29)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening: Mitch McConnell rumors, memes, Senate balance (00:00–06:40)
• Political tribalism, cults of personality (06:40–10:00)
• Economic collapse/housing crisis breakdown (27:21–34:00)
• Japan’s ageing crisis, property glut (32:18)
• Social Security’s fatal math (36:50–44:00)
• AI and the “age of obfuscation” (16:35; 47:36)
• Dean Cain on using AI for movies (19:54–21:12)
• Writing novels with AI (20:54)
• Pop culture, anime, superhero nostalgia (58:30–64:00)
• Batman/Joker: morality riffs and ChatGPT's bias (65:57–70:34)
• Health routines, aging, sobriety (84:11–86:47)
• Nature video rabbit hole/AI animals (92:31–99:00)
• Hollywood exile, law enforcement, personal values (112:13–116:12)
• Party “Coronations,” superdelegates explained (119:08–121:28)
• Closing remarks and plugs (123:26–124:48)

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Overall Tone & Style

Conversational, irreverent, frequently veering into digression and banter, peppered with pop-culture references, political cynicism, and a sense of apocalyptic humor about the future. The guests (especially Dean Cain) bring eye-opening Hollywood and law enforcement anecdotes, while George Santos plays the unapologetic political provocateur. Tim Pool keeps steering the ship toward serious societal undercurrents—generational decline, loss of reality, and the corrosion of authentic democratic governance.

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Closing

A quintessential Timcast episode: urgent breaking news, then free-range commentary delving into the woes and weirdness of modern America—where rumors become reality, AI can write your book (or fake your video), and all sides are losing faith in the system.

End of summary.

Transcript

[A]

You know, Mitch McConnell and I, I'm trying to be, I don't want to be overly disrespectful here, but many people presume him to be either brain dead or dead. There have been reports that he is comatose. We don't know for sure, but we are getting a video that is popping off on a New York Post. McConnell being seen loaded into an ambulance. There's speculation as to the reason they want to avoid the governor potentially appointing someone The Republicans will not like shifting the balance in the Senate. We don't know exactly what is going on, but of course, memes have been erupting all week about people claiming that They've called Mitch McConnell and he's told them beautiful things because we also Scott Jennings post about this. So we'll talk about that. We also have big news that Trump saying he's not gonna sign the housing bill. Whether he does or doesn't, Boys, boy, I hope you guys are ready for how bad things are going to get economically. It's bad. Now, I'm not here to sugarcoat anything or put cherries on top. It is bad. The economy is not good. Industries are all down. The housing bill, which is whether, whether it's signed or not, it's about to get rough. And I think there's a real reason Trump doesn't wanna sign it and I don't think it's that he wants the SAVE Act. I think it's partially true. I think the principal reality is that when housing prices collapses, boomers are gonna lose a large portion of their net worth and there's gonna be a deflationary cascade. So we will talk about all of that before we do. Ladies and gentlemen, the cast Brew coffee grand opening in Martinsburg, West Virginia. You wanna go, you need to go. And you've got to be a member at TIMC in the Discord to get your tickets. Elite members, of course, you guys are getting first choice. And then of course all of our long standing friends and fans that have been in the Discord for a long time, we're gonna get you. But for anybody that wants to attend, it's gonna be great. We're gonna have some comedy sets, some performances. Ian will probably sing whether you want him to or not. And then we're gonna play Put Some Magic the Gathering. So if you guys want to watch Games of Magic, then that will be available as well. But it's gonna be a great party. That's going to be Friday, July 24, from 6pm to 10pm I don't know if we're planning on doing the show live from there. I think maybe not, but the idea was floated so we will see. So definitely check that out. Become a [e-mail] for all things supporting the show and getting a nicer community. Don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met. Your life. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else we got Dean Cain.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Happy to be here. You finally made it. It's great to have you.

[B]

Well, you came to my town.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

It's the difference. You came to Vegas and I live here. So happy about that. Although I'm in West Virginia all the time. It's crazy. So I am and I, I, I'll come by the Casper launch party if I'm there.

[A]

That'd be great.

[B]

I won't be there.

[A]

Actually, I think everybody already knows who you are, so you can introduce yourself. Anyway, how are you guys?

[B]

Good to see you.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, how would you describe yourself these days? I know you're famous actor and same

[B]

way I describe myself, I'm like my, my X handle. I'm a father first. I got a 26 year old boy. He lives with me. He graduated college, moved back in with me. He and his girlfriend live with me here in Vegas. I'm a filmmaker and I kind of do a bit of everything. You know, I used to, I used to play in the NFL. I'm a, I'm a, I'm an honorary ice agent. I'm a law, I'm a, a, a sworn deputy sheriff. I am super producer. I played Superman. I played him for a while. Yeah. So I do, I do a lot of different things, but I would say I'm a filmmaker and I'm a father and filmmaker.

[A]

And also joining us is the exact opposite.

[C]

Wow. Thank you.

[A]

Well, you're not a father.

[C]

You're not a father.

[A]

You went to jail.

[C]

I'm an expelled congressman. There you go. Holy. That's. Oh, there you go. Whoops. No, but you know, it's, it's always good to be here with you. And I'm just looking at this and I'm going to be in D.C. on the 23rd for the party.

[A]

You got a party going on.

[C]

And I'm going to stop by Casper. I'm not invited. I'm not invited. But I'm going. I don't show up front door if I don't.

[A]

And then we'll go play blackjack.

[C]

Yeah, let's see.

[A]

I heard you hit like the super bonus last time.

[C]

So it's funny, I was so bored. I was so bored. I leave. I leave your studio. And I went by, just like, took a grand, and I'm like, I'm going to go check out this casino. My first handout was Lucky Ladies. My first ever time playing it, too. I was like, no way. Halfway through the shoe, I hit Lucky Ladies a second time. The. The dealer goes like, I've dealt this game for years. Never happened. I'm like, I guess it's my lucky night.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, what did you win, like 10 grand?

[C]

No, no, it's. What is it? It's 125 to 1. And. Yeah, you put a quarter there. You do the math. I don't remember.

[A]

Oh, so like just $7,000.

[C]

Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah. But first hand out of the first hand. First hand out of the shoe.

[B]

Twice in the first shoe.

[C]

Twice in the first shoe.

[B]

Get up and leave.

[C]

Well, that's what I did.

[A]

I finished the shoe.

[C]

And then this guy's like, you're gonna play another shoe? I'. You know that. You know how this goes. It's like beginner's luck. And it reels you in.

[D]

Lucky ladies.

[C]

Two suited queens of hearts.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And if the dealer has blackjack, you win a thousand to one.

[C]

That. That would have been. I mean, I've never prayed for blackjack. Please deal and do a blackjack.

[A]

That's.

[C]

It's crazy that that would be.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

To do the math, it's 25,000. No, no, I'm saying for the 125.

[C]

Oh, I think. I think it was 70 something or $6,000. 6,000.

[B]

Yeah. Wow.

[C]

I don't remember. Honestly, it's chips. I don't do the math.

[A]

125. That's. It's gonna be 2, 500 plus a quarter of that, so whatever. We're like close to three grand, something like that.

[C]

I don't. I don't remember. Honestly.

[A]

It was.

[C]

In casinos, it's always chips. I don't. You count it as money?

[A]

Well, I played. I played at El Cortez.

[C]

Right. But beforehand, it's all chips.

[A]

I played at El Cortez in Vegas. And when you. When you're done at the table, they give you a ticket, they give you a voucher.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Prefer that to chips.

[A]

Yeah, because then you can't stop.

[B]

Yeah, you can't stop anywhere.

[A]

That's probably why big casinos don't like it. Anyway, Ian's Here, too.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Hello, everybody.

[C]

Oh, hi, Ian.

[A]

Hi, George.

[D]

Let's go, dude. I think by this time, you're gonna be debating destiny tonight. Yeah. But by the time this show airs, I think you'll actually be debating destiny.

[C]

I will be debating time or it just happened.

[A]

On what issue?

[C]

The state of the GOP is his issue and all those issues. And I have the state of coronations of the Democratic Party.

[A]

I mean, let's get into the news. We got some of the New York Post. Mitch McConnell seen being loaded into ambulance after apparent cardiac arrest. New video shows. You know, I don't. I don't like being mean to people when they're sick. I remember when Mitch McConnell tripped and he trips a lot because he suffered polio when he was younger. And he's got. You know, I'm not a fan of Mitch McConnell. I know he's done things Republican Party really does, like with, you know, the Supreme Court several years ago.

[C]

The only thing I like about him, honestly, you know, talk about muscling a Supreme Court through.

[A]

I think he's the slow down there, Democrats guy. I think he's holding back what. What younger people are hoping to accomplish in this country. And it is what it is, but it's sad to see when people are sick and I. People made fun of him because he tripped and fell. And I'm like, guys, stop. Dude, it's so, so brutal. Yeah, I'm not going to gloat over Ruth Bader Ginsburg dying. I just. Bro, I can't do this stuff anymore. The. The celebrating of the schadenfreude and all of these things. I'm just like. It makes me want to barf. I'm like, just get away from me, dude. I. Yo, I cannot like the opinions. I can think. People are bad people. I can get really mad, but I'm just not interested in this. Like, I don't know, gloating over the suffering of. Of others. Well, to be fair, that makes you a good person.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

You know what? That just makes you a human being.

[B]

Normal human being.

[C]

Yeah, I'm right there with you. I look at all of this, and it's like, people are just so lost their souls have been. Yesterday, I posted a couple of pictures with me and Marjorie Taylor Greene on X. You might as well say that I was kicking baby Jesus off the altar in the nativity set because it was the vitriol. I'm like, guys, look, you're a traitor to troll. Like, no, no, no. I love President Trump. I. I'm Very thick. I'm here because of President Trump right now. But that doesn't negate the fact that she's my friend. We disagree. I disagree with a lot of my friends, and I think that's part of, like, society. But there's this purest and this purity test that you have to pass in order to even be accepted, apparently. I mean, I got captured saying, like, oh, you're. Whatever. He said that I was dumb. Whatever. And then he unfollows me. I'm like, okay, I'm not crying because he unfollowed me. I'm just, like, shocked that that's why he unfollowed me. Like, all right, dude, go live your life. Be happy. But what are we doing? Like, we celebrate people getting hurt. We celebrate people dying now, and now we fight over who we're friends with. It's. Come on.

[A]

I. You know, I always say this, too. It's like, I. I think the modern left is a bigger problem with vitriol, violence, threats, terrorism, of course. But I'm not going to. I'm not going to celebrate, you know, anybody doing it. I don't care where they are. That's just. I. I don't think the right is the biggest problem with that kind of stuff. But there's some people that do. But the. The, you know, Trump has his cult, and the left likes, say, Trump. The Trump mega people are a cult. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. There's culty Trump people. They're like, just. No matter what Trump does, they're like, it's perfect. Trump could, like, slip on a banana peel, and they'd be like, he did on purpose. It's like, oh, come on, dude. Sometimes people fall.

[C]

It's not 3D chest, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The reason Trump slipped us on purpose, because he was dodging a bullet. There was someone.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, guys. Sometimes he makes mistakes, and it's okay

[D]

when it comes to seeing people get hurt. And whether or not I enjoy it is like, is it first? Is it self defense? Did the bully attack the little kid? And the little kid Jiu Jitsu'd him and knocked him on the ground and broke his shoulder. In those instances, I think the bully got what he was cut.

[C]

I love how good for the little kid. Yeah.

[D]

That bully will never try to do that again now. Or the thing where the antifa guy's trying to vandalize a building and he's climbing up the side and he falls off and hits the ground.

[C]

He's like, call 91 1.

[D]

And you're like, you know, abolish the police. Cops will be there to help. You

[A]

said it was off on fire.

[D]

What? Who?

[A]

The antifa guy was trying to throw him off. He set himself on fire.

[D]

I'm kind of like, well, at least you had it. Like Mitch didn't have this coming. He's just an old guy dying, you know, Obviously it's sad. Same thing.

[A]

Here's the driving though. Here's.

[D]

Here's a recent one. I was thinking about the hammer.

[B]

Oh y.

[A]

But here's the challenge. Here's the challenge. So a bully is yelling at some, some kid who says, okay, like I'm gonna defend myself. And then that bully's got a couple of friends who don't see what started the fight, don't realize the bully started the fight. So then the bully goes to swing at the kid, and the kid spins out of the way, grabs arm, flips him over, slams him on the ground, breaks his shoulder. That bullies friends are not going, dude, that mother just broke Jim's shoulder, man. And then Jim lies and he was like, the kid was, was caused me problems. And now those kids go and tell their friends. And now you've got one side. This how the left operates in my. Yeah, they, they're all believing that they're the aggrieved party. And then the kid who is defending himself is. There's now a multi faction conflict. So there is a clearly aggrieved party and a wrong party. But it just. Here we go. Now it's going to kick off. And two, you got the, you got the, the jocks and the punk rock kids now fighting each other over it.

[B]

You know, jocks are going to win that one.

[A]

No, no, no. Let me tell you a story, dude.

[D]

Do they always win though?

[A]

Never. They never win. You know why? The jocks aren't the guys who are going to pull out crowbars. The punk rock guys are. I, I saw a fight break out.

[B]

I know some jocks that have pulled out a crowbar.

[C]

I was gonna say I've had a

[D]

John Pollock

[B]

in the NFL. I've seen some crowbars in my day and some other things, sure.

[A]

But like when you're talking about in high school and young guys, the jocks are the guys who are getting, they're. They're either not necessarily getting good grades, but they tend to be. They're on the team. Their parents are more rigid. The punk rock guys, they're not coming from like, for the most part. I don't want to be disputable to every single kid. Because, you know, I have friends who are punk rock, but they're not coming from the Christian conservative, work hard families. They're coming from the. My mom works full time on my dad's not in the picture kind of families. Not all the time. Calm down, guys. But I have a lot of friends like this and I. There was one time where some. Some jocks started. Started some. Some. Some problems.

[B]

And see, they started it. If you started.

[C]

But.

[A]

But it. But what they started was they were talking smack. They didn't make any threats with this. And the punk rock guys pulled out butterfly knives, chains, bear mace and baseball bats. And I'm like, that's kind of my point.

[C]

Like, that's a party.

[A]

The jocks. I think the jocks are less likely to do that. You know, they might. Might talk smack. But, you know, anyway, the point is you get factional conflict and then everyone says I'm right and you're wrong. And after 10 years of this, no one even remembers what started the fight.

[B]

Tribalism.

[D]

That's the field. McCoy. The story. The Hatfields and McCoys. I think they had like an intergenerational feud and no one. It got to the point where no even really understood where it came from. They just knew that they hated each other and they were supposed to hate each other.

[B]

I have.

[C]

I have something. We were talking about feeling bad for people, right? Do we feel bad for the guy who cut off his Johnson and set it on fire in his mom's garage? What?

[D]

Just the Johnson.

[C]

Did you.

[B]

Did you.

[C]

This is like two days ago. His. Yeah, he used it to.

[D]

He used it as his mom's garage on.

[A]

He literally. Hold on.

[C]

Cut his.

[D]

I get it.

[A]

I get it. I have questions.

[C]

Set it on fire at George's mom's garage.

[A]

I have questions. Was this politically motivated?

[C]

I have no clue what it was.

[A]

I still did.

[C]

A dude cut his junk off and set it on fire.

[D]

Did he soak it in gasoline?

[C]

I'm going to repeat myself. All I saw was a mug shot. And it read. And you.

[A]

Sounds like. It sounds like guys.

[D]

Too much moisture in there.

[A]

It sounds like this. This woman, you know, was experiencing some feelings and this woman was trying to be true to herself.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, that's understood.

[A]

If there is a man and he wants to not have a job.

[C]

I don't think that was.

[A]

Maybe he's a woman.

[C]

I don't think that was the case.

[A]

Well, you can't find anything better.

[C]

It happened when you were dug into poker because it was just all over my Feed.

[D]

So what happened? He went in his garage, he sliced it off.

[C]

No, he went into his garage, slices it off, sets it on fire, sets the freaking garage ablaze and gets arrested for it.

[B]

Geez, I didn't know there's a mug shot. Those were flammable, but I didn't know that they were.

[C]

That's what.

[B]

I tried to set mine on fire before, but it was totally different project.

[A]

I thought it was all water based.

[D]

You're saying the original question was, how do we feel about it? Darwin Awards stuff. I stood in front of a train and I don't know why I got hit by a train. Like, wow.

[A]

Yeah, I saw a video where, like three women were taking a selfie on the tracks and the train comes, just hits them. There's like a selfie of them smiling and the train's about to hit him.

[D]

Yeah, that.

[A]

But you know what? You don't ever feel bad. Everything's fake. Everything online's fake. All of it's fake.

[B]

Yeah, so much is. It's ridiculous.

[A]

It's always been fake, but it's even faker now.

[C]

And I can't even tell AI from real anymore. Sometimes I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm getting that old and I'm like, oh, wow, look at that.

[B]

But it's not even too good yet.

[A]

Wait, like it's really good.

[C]

So it's getting me. Sometimes I'm like, looking at this. I mean, it's crazy.

[A]

People make make reaction video, AI videos they generate and they're. And what they always do is they'll make the AI footage. What they'll do is they'll render it and they'll make it look like they'll edit it to put like a timestamp in it so it looks like a security camera. Then they'll film the screen so it kind of like reduces the resolution, makes it harder to tell it's AI.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then it looks like security camera footage of like an Amazon driver kicking a dog or something.

[B]

Yeah, it's kind of driver.

[C]

I was, I was hyped yesterday because I thought Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande were going to be in the American Horror Story new season. I was like, dead serious because Lady Gaga's been on it before. I'm like, great, they're bringing Ariana Grande on. I was like, all over this. And then I, I started going. I went to write a comment. So I'm like, you know, this is AI. If you're about to comment, you're excited.

[D]

You're an idiot.

[B]

It's getting good.

[D]

I keep referring to it as the age of Obfuscation. You know, they were in the Iron Age and in the Copper Age and now we're in the. I want to be in like the graphene age, the carbon age, but it feels more like the age of Obfuscation. Like I don't know what's going on. I can't. It's hard to tell what's real and what's not. By design, probably, and just by, you know, the ultimate direction of the technology, I guess. Like we've always been manipulated by the media. In the U.S. we had ABC, CBS and NBC guiding us towards the war in Iraq or whatever it was controlling.

[A]

But now, how dare you forget pbs.

[D]

It's happening. And pbs. And pbs, your public endowments are, are being made good. That's actually a lot of private money goes see pbs. People don't. Don't know enough about that, unfortunately. Anyway, I don't know. Now it's just like decentralized obfuscation. It's less, it's less centralized. It's more like a dude in China making an AI video to trick you in West Virginia.

[A]

And, you know, videos I really like, I don't know if you've seen them. It's like this Chinese factory and they sell Teemu products. Like not literal Teemu products, but like cheapo Chinese versions. And it'll, it, it'll always start with like some Asian woman saying something racist or offensive. And then before she finishes the joke, the guy butts in and he's like, finishes. She'll. She'll be saying something like, you know, she'll. She'll watch a video of like a street takeover and then she'll, she'll be like, she'll say the, she'll say. And, and then the middle. The Chinese guy jumps in and he's like, neon signs are. Yeah, I love those videos. I'm like, I'm not going to buy anything from you.

[B]

But there's one guy who does those who is hysterical.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I don't know his name, but I would buy.

[A]

I think, you know, the future is there. There was this trend that happened for a while where they still do it.

[D]

You'll.

[A]

You'll see a woman and there will be a camera angle. It'll be, it'll be just like this, right? So I got the mic in front of me. The camera is right in front of me. And they'll look slightly off camera so it looks like an interview shot. And they will just start with a sentence fragment. That sounds interesting. So you'll watch a clip and it'll be here going, no, no, you're wrong. The truth is, women want men who are going to tell them what to do. They love it. And then it, like, cuts off. It's not a real podcast. It's literally just a fake room where a person pretends like they're on a podcast and pretends like they're talking to somebody to make a clip that someone will watch. But the thing is, if you think about it, why should I spend two hours talking to you guys when I can just point the camera at a side angle and then say a couple of things like, are you kidding me? You lived hard. You actually believe that. I can't believe you actually think Trump went to prison. He never went to prison. He went to jail a couple times. Times, but. And then it goes viral and, like, hero here.

[C]

You said libtard. I don't.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. And they're gonna be like. And then you title it, like, tim Pool smacks down libtard. But there's no. There's no person there. It's just all fake.

[D]

For the record, it's Tony Zhu. Is there Tony Zhu? Is that Chinese guy from LC Signs who you're talking.

[A]

Is that what it is?

[C]

You just killed my entire.

[B]

That was driving me. That hair was driving me.

[A]

Keep your hair in check.

[C]

It was all over the table. I was thinking, who's the long.

[D]

Who's the girl with the long line? Hey, you were talking earlier. You were all kind of set it passively, like, well, not going to be out of a job as this guy. Have you used it to make movies

[C]

yet or are you.

[D]

What are you thinking?

[B]

There's a movie that I'm in post on right now, and there was a couple of establishing shots we didn't have and a couple of golf shots that we didn't have. It's a golf movie, but it's kind of. It's got a little bit of a. A magical feel to it. So it's okay to use it in a couple of these spots. And so we are using it in this film a little bit. Holy One is the name of the

[C]

film for B roll.

[B]

For. Yeah, so. So for a. An establishing shot and for a couple of golf balls going into holes and things like that.

[C]

I did a project. I just got Offset doing a project that they used a shoot. Ton of AI for B roll. I'm like, wait, how is this. No, don't worry. It'll blend in perfectly. And I'm just like, Very curious to see how this.

[B]

You do a good job when you get into post.

[C]

I really want to see what this turns out. Yeah.

[A]

I wrote a book.

[C]

Oh, you did?

[A]

I wrote a book last Saturday. It took about an hour or two.

[D]

This is awesome.

[B]

About an hour or two to write the book.

[A]

You write.

[C]

You write music here and then you AI to sync it. It's amazing.

[B]

My son does that too.

[A]

So I'm amazing.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah. So I like. Well, Ian and I will. We both write songs. I'll take my guitar, I'll sing a song, I'll record a song that I wrote on my phone, upload it to Suno and then hit render and it turns it into a full production. Done instantly.

[C]

It changes the vocal gender too.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Amazing.

[A]

So I've got this fake AI artist that is. It's like India electronica. So I've made. I've written a bunch of songs and then on acoustic guitar, but then it makes them more like modern pop kind of style. But I wrote a book. I went to Claude and I said, here's the premise of the book. It then wrote it. I wrote a. I said, write a treatment for it. Then I probably wrote 5,000 words in total, which were more direction than anything. Fixing some mistakes, correcting some issues, realigning the story, had it drafted, the chapter treatments. Then I said, make this happen here. I did it maybe 10 times. Once I felt like all the story beats and everything were lined up. I told it to publish the full book. It's 80,000 plus words. And then I gave it to Chris Carr, who works here. He's a copy editor and writer. So he's gonna review it and fix the robot, like make it human.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So my attitude was like, listen, I. I'm not a writer. If I actually did write this story, which I have in my mind, I need a writer to actually fix it, to like, you know, copy. I didn't do all these things anyway. So I'll just have Claude, I'll give it the story. And that's where we're at now with AI It's. It's.

[C]

What's the subject of the book?

[A]

I've talked about it a million times, but it's a couple hundred years in the future. There's one city left.

[B]

The.

[A]

It's in the. It's in a fiction story, obviously. And so there's one city left. About 8 million people. The people in this. In the city don't know why. The rest of the world seems to have collapsed. But whenever they go Scouting cities are all empty. There's no sign of life. All records they find on old servers seem to end around 2077. And the gist of the story is they eventually come to. So it's. These people have a general American Christian moral tradition and there are, there are many who believe that they are the descendants of the, of the, the sinners who were not raptured. So they have to be a bit more pious. But then they come to realize eventually they learn human civilization migrated into facilities underground for. Underground for climate control purposes. But they neuralink themselves in. And so the idea is as rapidly as cell phones were adopted when neuralink technology came out and you could rent a pod for 100 bucks a month where you could live in a digital reality and have anything you want, more and more people started to adopt that way. And so they come to find that humanity never went away. They actually just migrated to digital internal universes which ultimately leads to a conflict with the humans who never wanted to. And then the people of the city have like a. There's like a moral crisis because they realize in fact they're not the descendants of, of the fallen and the sinners, but of the true faithful, the people who resisted the machine and, and stayed true to their beliefs. And then they've like. It gives them a sense of extreme righteousness which leads to a conflict with these grotesque looking thin skinned human bald creatures that live underground.

[C]

There's a parallel to your, what you're saying to a book I actually read. Not, not identical, but very similar storyline almost. It's called the Lost Colony. Very interesting book. I mean it's, it's science fiction. They're in another planet though not on Earth, but same kind of like humans and pods living virtual realities and on a continuous loop when they figure it out. So then another virtual reality starts with that virtual reality stuff.

[B]

Always starts to hurt my brain.

[C]

It's a complicated book.

[A]

My view of it was like it was based on. We have any conversations about neuralink and we asked the question quite a bit on the show. Like if you could choose to put a neural link in your head and then you could experience any reality you wanted, would you do it? The Matrix, but knowingly, of your own volition, would you do it?

[C]

No.

[B]

No, I wouldn't.

[C]

Hold on, hold on.

[A]

What if it's.

[B]

Is it a permanent thing or is this.

[A]

No, there's a headband at Best Buy. You go to Best Buy and they got the neural band from Elon Musk. And when you put it on it can read and write to your brain so that it simulate. Your brain starts getting the signals like you are experiencing actually being a ninja fighting a dragon, you know. And so for if you're a woman.

[B]

I played that by the way.

[A]

Well, in your case it's not all

[B]

it was cracked up to be on

[A]

your actually Superman flying around and shooting like rice. Exactly.

[B]

I would do it of course I would try it as long as it was. Yeah.

[C]

Video game.

[D]

It sounds like heroin though. I wonder if it'll be that. Some drugs are so addictive. You do them once and you're like. Because it changed forever from it. Like actually experiencing a fantasy realm as if it is real.

[A]

You never leave alter.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You never touched.

[D]

Remember that you weren't that.

[A]

That's the point of the story. When the product becomes available in the late 2000s, people start buying it. They start adopting it rapidly, just like the iPhone. Within two years, everybody had a smartphone touchscreen. Then facilities pop up saying for only 100 bucks a month, we'll take care of everything for you super dirt cheap. You don't need any space.

[C]

But how do you make money if you're like in this pod?

[D]

White collar work allocate part of your memory, your brain. No, no, no memory to.

[A]

You're in a digital reality and they say we need someone to do data entry. We need someone to transfer files. We need someone to manage hr. It's white collar.

[C]

So here's the interesting part. Like the. That I'm obviously getting. I'm putting holes in it. Who's benefiting from all this money? I mean if everybody's in a virtual reality with corporate. It's almost like Umbrella Corporation and Resident Evil. When you re. When you see the last movie, Mila Jovovic is actually a clone of Mila Jovic.

[B]

Oh, I haven't seen the last presumption.

[C]

Sorry, that was like five years ago.

[A]

But okay, I know the presumption in the story is that. And I don't necessarily agree, but entertaining the idea that there will be service white collar and information based services creative works. So there's still going to be money exchanged and value exchanged at some point. Like look at. Look at today. Like we make a lot of money just complaining. And if you went back 200 years and said you could be rich by sitting around a table with a bunch of guys complaining, they'd be like, what? No, you can't. Who's gonna. Who's gonna make your food? Who's gonna farm? So these things change. But the conflict of the story arises because the facilities require maintenance. So periodically, every 50 or so years or every so often there are managers and maintenance have to come out of the digital world. And this is where the last city has been expanding over over 200 years. 200, 180 years. And then eventually it's so massive, generation after generation that when the, the people who are in these facilities come out to do maintenance, they actually encounter to them are like the North Sentinelese. It's like 200 year old technology. And so this leads to a conflict where we don't care about the North Sentinel. He's like, we don't, we don't care to go there and interact. We ignore them, right? They're nothing.

[B]

A couple people try.

[C]

Can I read this? Yeah, dude.

[D]

When people plug into the pods like that, they're going to allocate percentage of their please.

[C]

I'm like, I love that, I love science fiction.

[D]

Like where the money is coming from is like people are building data centers right now for AI but you are the data center. Your brain is part of the computational

[C]

by the way, very pro data center. I get a lot of flack for it. It brings jobs, it brings blue collar jobs, it brings tech job. I, I don't understand people.

[B]

What is the problem with data center? I don't even know.

[C]

I mean people are going to exhaust the grid and like it also forces government to actually do infrastructure investments. So I, I kind of love data centers.

[B]

What is the, what is.

[C]

The communities are sold a boogeyman of. It's going to mine all the electricity and water and it's going to leave us with droughts and, and, and power outages because you're going to be the. I'm like, like it's not. There's two, there's two going up by me now.

[A]

Let's, let's, let's, let's do this. Let's jump to the story from cnbc. No, no, no. This is on point. This is on point. Trump says he won't sign housing bill which would become law automatically. So the story that we've been getting is that Donald Trump is threatening. He said I'm not going to sign this housing bill. It's supposed to lower housing costs because he wants the SAVE act passed. And I, I, it's tough. I want the SAVE act passed a lot. But I know that the housing bill is actually going to help a lot of people and could be really, really good for the economy if young people can buy houses. However, there's a lot of challenges with this and I think the reason Trump really doesn't want to sign. It has nothing to do, I shouldn't say nothing, but largely isn't about the SAVE act because it will become law anyway. I think Trump, unless he vetoes it then. Right then they have another session. They've got a veto proof majority already, two thirds. Okay, so he couldn't, he couldn't postpone it. The thing is, this bill bans institute institutional investors from buying properties, which is the, probably the only reason houses have maintained the value they have for so long, which is bad for young people and bad for everything. But we also have another problem. There are no young people. And when this happens, it is going to be massively deflationary. So if you're holding stocks, you're cooked. But cash is king at that point.

[C]

It'll be a great opportunity to buy

[A]

for people who will. But here's what's going to happen.

[C]

The great generational transfer of funds and

[A]

there's going to be, every, every homeowner will be underwater. It's going to be like 2008.

[C]

Every homeowner with a loan, you mean?

[A]

Yeah, oh, yeah, sure. Rich people are going to be fine. I'm sweating ice.

[C]

I don't have a mortgage. So I'm like, okay, I'm happy.

[A]

All the rich people in the room

[D]

during the Great Depression, rich people got way richer because they just bought up all the crash stocks. But the people that have borrowed on margins and invested upon. It's a great opportunity.

[C]

It's a great buying opportunity for anybody who has any kind of cash flow.

[A]

Right.

[C]

There's a lot of dry powder out there right now.

[A]

This is the point.

[C]

Yeah. So I think it's a good opportunity for our generation. And above, like below anybody under 40 is going to benefit from this.

[A]

But so there's going to be a massive. Understand, understand. There's going to be a lot that happens around housing. So boomers have all of their wealth and a lot of their, their value tied up in properties which will get wiped out.

[C]

Great. I'm going to become the next slum lord.

[A]

But here's the thing. This is going to happen no matter what when boomers, Boomers are at the mortality shelf. So they're not 80 years old, they're starting to die. And I mean, with all due respect, I'm not trying to be morbid, but they are because it's this life expectancy. Their properties are going to be inherited by people who don't want to live in them. So you got a boomer, owns a house in Omaha. Well, his Kid moved to Chicago or New York or la, he's not going to want to move back to Omaha for the house. What's going to happen? They're going to say the house is yours. He's going to say what does that mean? You got to pay taxes, otherwise you're going to lose all your value. And he's going to say let's just sell it. And now what's going to happen? Who can buy it? You got so by me in West Virginia, by our studio. When we first moved there, a bungalow was 200K, a two, three bedroom bungalow. It's 500 right now. 500,000 who. No one's buying those things. So you've got a boomer with a $500,000 house in Omaha. They die. It goes to his, it goes to the guy's son who lives in New York and they say you need to come. And he's like first I don't have the money to fly to Omaha and take off work. It's not happening. He tells the estate manager, whoever, the lawyer, can we just put on the market? Can you get an agent and we'll sell it? And he goes okay, let's do it. What's its value at 500,000, put it on the market. Two weeks go by, no interest.

[C]

Why?

[A]

No one can afford to buy houses, especially that. So he says just drop the price because I don't, I don't want to deal with the maintenance of the taxes. So they go to, they go to 450, nobody. 400 nobody. 300 nobody. 200 nobody. 150 nobody.

[C]

Well you know what, that destroys the comps too, which then lowers everyone else's.

[A]

Indeed.

[D]

First choice, the what?

[C]

The comps.

[D]

What's that?

[C]

Comparable offers in the market. So if you try to sell your house afterwards, you're gonna go off of the, the last sold house on the block. But you're screwed.

[A]

But doesn't even matter. The point is there are no young people. The young people that we do so, so Gen Alpha is non existent. They're half the size of Gen Z. Gen Z doesn't have the money to even buy a house at 150,000. You're asking them to get $30,000 down. Gents is going to be like, well I don't have that. So no one is going to buy houses. They'll be worth nothing. But more importantly, this is where it gets crazy. There are not enough young people to absorb all of the houses. So boomers own, I think The, I think 80% of boomers own a house. And many own two or three. Gen X, about 75% own one house. Millennials. Half of millennials own one house. Gen Z, I think it's something like 7%. They are really young though. But in your 20s, you should be buying houses. So this is gonna happen. Millennials are gonna be like, I don't need two houses, nor do I want to spend money on them. And they're worthless. Houses are going to collapse. And the proof is in the pudding. Look at me. You got a Japan. Have you guys seen what's going on over there? Yeah, they've got 10 bedroom houses for $60,000.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Because I need to go invest a couple.

[A]

Well, there's no humans there, so you'd be buying a dead piece of. A dead piece of real.

[B]

I don't want any humans around me.

[C]

It's a loss and it's a tax. Write, get it?

[A]

So what Japan has been doing is like we, we had a video. It's got, it's got 325,000 views right here just on YouTube alone, where I was talking about how Japan's desperately trying to get white American foreigners to move to Niigata and start buying up these houses because they don't have the people to buy it.

[C]

So he literally just volunteers.

[B]

My given name is Tanaka. I'm Japanese by birth.

[A]

So you have citizenship?

[B]

No, but maybe I could buy it.

[A]

Your grandparents though, then.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, my grandparents.

[A]

Oh yeah, you can, you can. I think you have birthright to Japan

[C]

that we're talking generation second up to the second generation.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Japan's. I know, I know. Correct. I'm Park. I'm a quarter Korean and I have, I have that with Korea because my grandmother.

[D]

Did you change your name from Tanaka?

[B]

My mom remarried when I was four and that's when I changed it. I was born Tanaka and it changed when my, when I, when I got a dad. Cuz I never knew my biological father, so that was it.

[C]

Well, that's pretty cool.

[B]

Yeah, but it was, it was because they, it was a. He wasn't a great father type figure and was having.

[C]

I, I have a, I could relate.

[B]

I have a brother.

[C]

I guess mine's around, but I can relate.

[B]

I have a half brother who is, I think four months younger than me.

[C]

So yeah, there's, there's clearly busy.

[B]

There was some overlap there. So I never knew that. But my dad, my dad from South Dakota adopted me, married my mom adopted me at 4 and I became Kane.

[A]

I think you have a great opportunity to go buy property in Japan, Because

[B]

I'm going to put it in my notes here to make sure I check it out, because is so I like Japan.

[A]

I think what's going to happen is

[C]

I like shopping in Japan.

[A]

There's going to be.

[B]

I want. I want. I want to be alone.

[A]

Yeah, It's a fun place to do everything. Yeah. I did. I did karaoke. Oh, it was amazing.

[C]

Karaoke is better in Korea, though. I. I was.

[D]

What?

[C]

So I was in South Korea recently. Have you ever karaoke in South Korea?

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay. Go to South Korea and do karaoke. They karaoke. Hard stages, all the flamethrowers.

[B]

China too.

[C]

Sparkles, you name it.

[B]

They're like.

[C]

They hit notes and these things are AI automated, so it kind of like helps you out. Oh, my God. It's amazing.

[B]

I need all the help I can get.

[A]

A. I was in a dive bar where you were sitting shoulder to shoulder, and I did a duet with a Japanese woman singing A Whole New World from Aladdin.

[B]

Oh, my gosh, that's a big song.

[D]

Yeah, I thought you were gonna say totally clip for the heart.

[B]

No.

[A]

Sounds amazing. Yes. Older Japanese woman. You know, she was Jasmine, I was Aladdin.

[C]

It was a lot of fun.

[A]

But yeah. So when Gen Alpha is going to be in their 20s, which is. I think it's like four years, five years from now maybe. So maybe five or six years.

[C]

Because they're like millennials and zers, right?

[A]

Millennials. Yeah. Well, it would be. It's supposed to be Gen Z, because if they were in their twenties. No, I guess it would be. It would be millennials, actually.

[C]

So millennials are giving birth to two generations.

[A]

Gen Alpha ended 2012, I believe.

[C]

Okay, what's now Beta?

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[C]

Bravo.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Not Beta. Beta. Gen.

[B]

I think we had a betagen already.

[D]

I think we should go.

[A]

My daughter is Jen Bravo.

[D]

Generation X, Generation Y, you know. But now we should go to Alpha Gen. We should put generation at the end of the. Because we changed back to the A. We would go through the Alphabet and then. And then on the next iteration of the Alphabet, we'll go back to generation Alpha.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

This will be Alpha Gen.

[A]

Anyway.

[D]

Beta Gen.

[A]

The point is, if there's not enough people to buy houses, the housing, there's no demand.

[B]

There's going to be a housing shortage.

[C]

Well, we have a housing shortage due to mass migration. So when you're being invaded, as we were, there's clearly a shortage.

[A]

The reason why the Democrats are like, open the borders is because they want to inflate population. Well, There's a bunch of reasons, one of which is you can't maintain a socialist state, and I'm saying it somewhat derisively but somewhat correctly, without bringing in labor to extract from. The point being, we are not a capitalist country. We're called a mixed economy. So we are actually slightly more socialist than we are capitalist. And I don't think people realize this. You look at socialist versus capitalist, you can say public versus private trade. Based on the percentages and basically the amount of taxes that we pay, we're slightly above 50% towards social structures and not free market structures. So in order to maintain that massive system, the entitlements, you need laborers to come in to extract value from.

[C]

I thought you just needed more pockets to like Margaret Thatcher famous.

[B]

That's exactly what it is.

[A]

You need for around four laborers to cover the cost of one Social Security recipient. So with Gen X now entering their peers, you are going to need a ton of people we don't have because Gen Alpha is so small. What happens, Social Security becomes insolvent. It can only pay out what it brings in. But now there's no people to bring in. So you are going to have, you're going to have 100 million Social Security recipients and 100 million young laborers and you're going to have to tax each individual one four times as much to cover the costs to maintain Social Security or Social Security drops so far below inflation that it's meaningless. And then you're going to have a political revolt. One of my predictions on the, on this is that they say by 2032, Social Security goes, goes tits up.

[C]

It is insolvent, Right? I was there, we debated it, we talked about it is so categorically impossible to rescue at this point.

[A]

So they're going to go to Gen Alpha and Gen Z and say you've got to pay more in taxes. You got to do your fair. Pay your fair share, right? Pay your fair share.

[C]

I gave a solution, a fair solution.

[A]

Cut off all entitlements and watch it.

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

Stop. Quite literally stop adding people to Social Security. Just let it die off. Stop adding more payers. Like I said, refund me. My generation should be refunded to get

[B]

refunded for that too.

[C]

Refund me. I'm okay. I don't need it. Yeah, but then I'll make other plans. You know, Blackjack, you're, you're telling, you're

[A]

telling politicians to go to boomers who are the biggest voting bloc and most. And most enthusiastic and say we're Cutting

[C]

off your benefits or they're not losing their benefits. Let the government, if you're.

[A]

If you're refunding.

[C]

I'm, I'm saying this in, in the most insane way of government spending here, but if we're. The money, if we ought to spend, subsidize it for a specific generation and don't let anyone else subscribe to it and create a new plan.

[D]

So you're saying that already on it, keep it. But the people that have paid into it get their money back, and they don't get it.

[B]

Well, they get a portion of their money back.

[A]

How do you pay for the remaining security?

[C]

Like I just said, let. If government's going to subsidize something, subsidize something.

[A]

Okay, let's slow down.

[B]

Finish it off.

[A]

If you refund the money to the people who paid it or pay them

[B]

their Social Security benefits as opposed to refund everything.

[C]

Oh, no, no. I'm not saying people who pay.

[D]

Oh, sorry.

[C]

Let me clear this thought process out. It's not clear if you're already a recipient and you're receiving or within five years of receiving. I think it's fair. You. You stay on.

[A]

You keep paying into it.

[C]

Exactly right. Anyone that's below that, I'd say anyone 40 under 50 under you. You pick the goddamn line. I don't care. Draw a line. That's how bills are made anyway. They coin toss them and then argue over it.

[A]

Okay, so you're saying so let's off as 50.

[C]

Anyone who's 50 years old or lower, right now in America, you can stop paying Social Security. You, you'll get a partial refund of sorts from the government. The government will continue collecting from those above 50, paying out those who are receiving.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And so on and so forth.

[A]

You need from 16 years old to 64 laborers to cover one. Understand that if you stop collecting from people below 50, there's no money.

[C]

There's no money. So the essence of collections.

[A]

But I'm saying so it's, it's the, the point. You can't pay money to the boomers. They can't stay on it if you stop collecting.

[C]

You can't. But you can stop funding foreign wars and you can divert the money to that. You can.

[A]

Sure. A different argument.

[C]

I mean, you know, I think you can stop giving foreign aid to countries who hate us, like Uganda.

[B]

I'm all for that.

[C]

You know,

[A]

if you tell. If you tell boomers, you're cutting off Social Security. You will never win an election. It's not happening. If you say you're not cutting it

[C]

for them though, right?

[A]

If you say you can keep it, but millennials won't get it, you're not getting up. You're not getting vote from. From Gen X, Millennial or Gen Z.

[C]

I would actually vote for whoever.

[A]

Most people are not going to do it.

[C]

I'd say yes, give me a partial refund and I don't have to pay ssl.

[A]

They're gonna say I paid my whole life and they get it. You're taking it away from me. Not happening.

[C]

You're getting a refund.

[A]

You can't refund.

[C]

You can, okay, in tax.

[A]

You're not giving cash.

[C]

Just give them the tax credits throughout the years. Break it up into 20 years.

[A]

I don't know. I don't understand how you're not understanding this. If I have $100 in my bank account that I took from you to pay him and then I have to give you a refund, my bank account is now $0. How do I pay him?

[D]

Borrow money from the Federal Reserve?

[C]

Borrow money from the government. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I literally.

[C]

Tim.

[A]

What does borrow money from the government mean?

[C]

Tim? It means add to the national debt. Again, print money. If you're going to print money for anything, print it for this.

[A]

Hyper has the exact same effect, but it's just surreptitious.

[C]

I absol. Absolutely no. So it's all fungible.

[A]

So. So the argument is our money is all fun. We are going. So. So. Right. So the argument is we will steal the buying power from the younger generation. So they're. But they're too stupid to understand the economic system to get mad about it.

[C]

I didn't say that.

[A]

But that's, that's, that's the argument.

[C]

I know what you're saying. I'm not going to say those words. You're not running for office anymore. But I'm just not going to say

[A]

that on the right. But this is politics. Your plan could work by going to young people and saying you're no longer going to pay into this and we're go. But the problem is you're going to get 10 million people saying, how are you paying for it? And when you say we're going to print the money, they're going to go to their constituents and say, this will be hyper inflationary and it's going to steal more than you'd pay in taxes due to inflation. This is the problem. The system needs to be stopped or

[C]

just everyone cut off. Stop. Start when.

[A]

Shut it all down. You might be able to sell it

[D]

to the younger people. Because if you're like, look, you're 40,

[C]

hey, you can stop storming this here too, by the way, if you're playing here, we could build on this.

[D]

Rather than put starting point a hundred thousand thousand dollars over your 30 year period into this program that's going to inflate and be worth $7,000 in 40 years. You can keep that hundred thousand dollars. Just keep it. Or we'll re. And that's the argument of like, vote for me and I will make sure you don't lose 130amonth to this Social Security program that you're going to get $10 a month back from when you're 50 years from now after you make it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So keep your money into our system.

[C]

If you make. Make it.

[D]

I think it's a good argument. I'd rather have that money to invest in the stock market. Personally, I know it's more risky, but Social Security is a dying.

[C]

Put it in a Roth ira. I don't know, dude. Like I said, that was a pitch. But Tim wanted me to deliver a ready sign. I think he's like, where's the office of man?

[A]

You have to just stop it. This is the problem we can never solve. No, no voting block is going to allow you to steal, take away their entitlements. And no, no. The younger generations. Listen, I had these conversations for years when we've talked about the insolvency of Social Security. I have the like people my age being like, that's bs. They can't make me pay and then not give it to me. It's not fair. There's going to be a revolt when young people are told to give up their wealth for the boomers who had everything compared to the younger generation. And it's not, you know, it's a little exaggerated when they say this, but it was a lot better relative to how things are now economically drafted. So you're Indeed. But you had this housing market. You had people working at, you know. You know, Brandon was talking to me the other day and he was like, he's like, Al Bundy owned his own house and had a stay at home wife as a shoe salesman at the mall.

[C]

Oh my God. I was like, I was like, I was like, Brandon, Peggy Bundy.

[A]

I was like, I'm going to tweet that. That was a good one. So credit to Brandon for that one.

[C]

Oh, is that where that came from? I saw that tweet.

[A]

Yeah, Brandon said it to me. I'm like, bro, I'm tweeting that right now.

[C]

That was great.

[A]

And, and I was like, it's a good point though.

[C]

And he got to insult fat woman.

[A]

Yeah. And people were like, it was a joke. Also say, yeah, but on friends, they all lived in this apartment in New York you couldn't afford. And I'm like, no, I get it, man. The point was, this is how we saw America. That you could be a. So look, in the 80s, you could be a manager, department store. Not even a department store. A small discount outlet. And you had enough to support your family. You could, you could work. You worked at Sears.

[C]

That's what I was gonna say. Sears was an actual honorable job. Sears pennies, Macy's. People build lives.

[A]

Careers, pensions.

[C]

Pensions put their kids through college. Working department stores. That's gone. That, that's, that's just, that's a fraud today. I mean, the only way to generate wealth in our country today really is, is the Internet or if you're in some really high performing white collar industry, Hollywood. But the problem is that a lot of people like to give crap to the boomers. I'm going to defend the boomers for a second. They had to work. Gen zers want instant gratification. And that's the biggest problem with this generation because so many go on and flick a switch and all of a sudden they're tick tock famous or they're on only fans and making millions a month, which is offensive to me.

[A]

But I think I'm curious to see where everything goes, especially with how AI and all this media stuff is happening. Because it's, it's like we were talking about this last night with monetizing podcasts. It's becoming impossible because of the. We're in the mass theft of content phase where copyright infringement is ubiquitous. So the only way to compete with all the copyright infringement is to pay people to infringe your copyright effectively. So it used to be that, you know, several years ago we. People would repost clips from our show and you'd, you'd flag, you'd be like, hey man, like commentary is fine, but ripping it raw and then posting on your own channel, no, that's not okay. Then some, some smaller podcasts trying to get in the space loved it. And they said, bro, I got 5 million. Some, some guy uploaded my video, got 5 million views. Now that guy got 5 million views made. You know he's gonna make 50 grand or maybe even 100 grand. But the other person's like, well, I don't know. At least I got, you know, all these views and otherwise I wouldn't have gotten anything. Now there are companies that you pay to spam blast your videos, otherwise no one will ever see your videos. This is not a sustainable economy. It's not possible to maintain this. Sooner or later it's gonna cost more money to be a personality than being a personality page ways. So even this sector is going to go, go tits up. I don't know. Yeah, absolutely. There's, there's some stuff we talked about with how you monetize it. Like we were saying, like we're going to put screens on the, we're gonna, I actually have my brother building this right now. Small 4 inch screens that have rotating display ads on them. That way when people clip or steal your content, we can take all of those numbers and say to the advertiser, that's what you pay for it. You pay for ubiquitous clips. And we'll have your ad in every single video whether we wanted them to steal it or not. So that's one way you can try to monetize it. But those, those views are not gonna be worth that much money because what does it really mean that someone sees a logo, it's not a direct sell. So 10 million views might pay you a thousand bucks at that point. But you know, the other issue of course is AI generated content. Who's even gonna want to watch a show like this when I can just click a button and say AI generated episode where Tim and Ian argue about graphene.

[D]

It's getting, getting to the point where you can, there's more content is being made than can be watched. I mean, that is, there's a change happening. It used to, I mean, I can't

[C]

even keep up with, I mean I watch one TV show right now because there's so many and it's from.

[A]

I love it.

[D]

What is it?

[A]

It's a, it's a show about nothing.

[C]

It's, it's a show about horror. It's just pure agonizing horror.

[D]

Oh God. It's like real life.

[A]

Let me explain the show.

[B]

I have to watch that.

[A]

So let me say this. The show start out awesome.

[C]

It's a great show.

[A]

Not anymore.

[C]

Did you watch this last season?

[A]

I, I, I turned it off after the second episode I lost. So, so let me, let me explain, let me explain. The, the show starts with a family. There's a down tree in the road and they have to turn around. And when they do, it brings them to the small town and they, they, they, they can't they try to leave.

[D]

Like, it.

[A]

They can't find their way out. They. They keep driving, and they loop back around. They ask for directions. They're given directions, but no matter what they do, they keep ending up back in the town.

[D]

Seen it before.

[A]

And then they learn once you're in the town, you're trapped. Okay. And if you don't come inside before for nightfall, these creepy people start walking around, and they'll knock on your door asking to come in, and they're demons. They'll kill you. They're monsters. Initially, it's like, what a cool show.

[C]

I love it.

[A]

And instead of being like, let's develop the lore and make a show instead, what they do is the main character will be like. He'll be like. He'll hear a noise, and he'll walk in the woods, and he'll go like this. And then you'll see, like, a little kid in the woods go. He'll go. And then he'll run in the woods, and then there'll be, like, a. A giraffe doll, and he'll go, what's happening? And then all of a sudden, like, you'll see a kid run past, and he'll go, oh. And then he'll find a vase on the ground and go. And then the episode ends, and you're like, yeah. And then the next episode, they know about it.

[C]

Yep. Yeah.

[A]

Look, I like the music box and the light.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

That's a good setup.

[C]

I love it. It was.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's horror, so for me, it's horror. So I'm. There was.

[D]

It's got that break.

[A]

The first episode was great because there's two different factions. There's one group of hippies that live in a big house, and then there's the people in the town who have, like, a sheriff who's like, here's what we got to. And they got into a fight, so they moved off and live in this different house. And they kind of get along, but don't. And the politics of it was interesting,

[C]

but then it's just like they merged eventually.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[C]

I know.

[A]

He finds a music box, and he's like. And then, like, it's just fake. It's. It's called the Mystery Box show, where every episode ends on a nonsense cliffhanger. And the next episode, they don't address it.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[D]

That was how Lost was for me.

[A]

It's exactly Lost. That's why it's called. From its meaning list.

[B]

Never watched either.

[A]

Oh, dude. The worst is you know, what was that, too?

[C]

I like the cast.

[A]

What was that show that everyone. No one will shut up about on Apple TV where they split their personalities?

[D]

Thank God I haven't seen it.

[A]

Severance. I'm gonna say this, guys.

[B]

I would not be.

[D]

What were you gonna say?

[A]

Yeah, Severance is the same. It's a mystery about you. It's. It's the one where you can separate your work life from your. Your personal life. So your work self just wakes up at work infinitely. When they're like, okay, I'm leaving work. They go in an elevator, and then instantly the elevator opens up and they're back at work again. Because as soon as they leave the elevator, their work self, their personality gets locked away. And so it creates two distinct personalities. The premise is good, but it's a mystery box. The only thing. Real quick, they're walking down the hall and she finds a room full of goats. And she's like, whoa. And it's like, that was nothing. We just meaningless nonsense. I hate the stuff.

[C]

Stuff. I don't know.

[A]

People love it.

[C]

Production. Production companies are struggling to. To engage at least my attention. Like, it's either so bizarre or so simple. Like, the last movie I watched, produced by one of these streamers that I really liked was Apple, and it was the Gorge with Anya Taylor. Joy. Well, she's, first of all, phenomenal. If you watch Queen's Gambit. Did you watch that?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, amazing.

[A]

You know, it was too unrealistic for me to watch a woman win at chess, so I couldn't do it.

[C]

Personally. Loved. And I. I just love what she does and. And Apple TV did that. But all these other streamers are really struggling with anything engaging. And I. I think you're right. AI is pretty soon going to start making.

[B]

It's going to be scary.

[D]

From my perspective, it's. The video games are so much more interesting because they're interactive and games. They've gotten to the point where they're like movies now.

[C]

So rather than video games happening, rather

[D]

than watch a movie, I'd rather play a movie. Like. And so I don't. It's got to be.

[C]

A movie's got to be really good,

[D]

and only if I'm eating. And I'll put on even gameplay footage of a cinematic game or something. Or a game. And I'd rather watch the game movie. But, like, how? I mean, Dean, you're like the. You're the expert at the table of movie making.

[B]

Apparently not. I'm listening to all this stuff. I'm like, wow, I haven't seen anything

[D]

like, do you, do you, are you going, what are you doing with like the interactive multimedia?

[B]

Well, so I look at the, the younger generation. My son is 26, his girlfriend's 23. You know, they play a lot of video games. She watches like friends and reruns of Friends and reruns of, of what is the one where they talk the, all the Gilmore Girls and stuff like that. Sex in the City. She'll watch those things and stuff like that, which I, I can't watch.

[C]

Gossip Girl.

[B]

Yeah, probably. I, I don't know. But yeah, she'll watch those things. My son and I will just watch a movie every now and again. But he's a big tech head. He's a video game guy. Plays Apex Legends and things like that all the time. He kind of switches from game to game to game, but that's what they're, that's what they're doing now. We don't, there's no, there's no, like, oh, there's the big blockbuster movie. Everyone's gonna go see it. There's none of that. I don't hear that anymore. Because everything we have, I mean, in my house here, Vegas, we have a huge theater. A theater, it's six times the size of this room, you know, and it blasts. I'm not, I'm not going to a theater unless I have to. So I'll sit and watch it at home.

[C]

For those of us who don't have a theater room, I do go to the Don't. I don't. Wow. No, I don't. I opted for family room, living room, and actual office space. So I didn't make a theater room. Yeah, I only have, I only have 2800 square feet to work with and. Dude, really?

[A]

That's so small.

[C]

It is small.

[B]

It is small for how many people?

[C]

Two.

[B]

It's a very, it's good size, though.

[C]

It's a very small house. Okay.

[A]

I think, I think so.

[C]

I need some extra space for the MA area. Huh?

[A]

My house is like 1500 square feet.

[C]

Is it?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, okay. Oh, I, I don't know.

[A]

I just, I want, you know, my, my house when we were in Jersey was 3500 and I just, I don't know. I don't.

[C]

We're looking in Atlanta now.

[A]

I, I, I got my wife and my baby. Baby. And we have a three bedroom.

[C]

So it's like 1500 square feet. Yeah. So it's a living room combo, like kitchen, like open space, open concept.

[A]

Well, I guess kind of yeah, no,

[C]

I, I actually like that colonial structure, separate room.

[B]

I like the big, I like the big ones.

[A]

Let me just stress, to be fair, like the, the, the old studio we had, the big house is 10, 000 square feet. Yeah, but I don't want to live in that.

[B]

That's too much.

[D]

I lived there for four years in that house. It was crazy. I visited, visited 7% of the house every day. There was like 93.

[A]

The worst thing was you would get lost periodically for days. On purpose actually. He'd be walking around the house and he couldn't find his way back. It was so big around.

[C]

Almost feels like back rooms that, you know.

[A]

You know what I love the whole

[C]

movie that just like went viral.

[B]

Another one, I don't know.

[A]

I heard it was really bad actually.

[C]

Oh, I hated it so much. I hated it so much. But then Obsession. Oh, by the way, movies. Did you see Obsession?

[D]

No.

[C]

Did you hear about him?

[B]

My son and his girlfriend did. They loved it. So talk about.

[A]

They were, they were disturbed a little long. Are you?

[C]

Who cares? A YouTube editor, like, like video editor, produces, directs a movie with $900,000 of a budget.

[B]

And how do you get 900 grand to do that?

[C]

Not just that, the box office turned out to be over $200 million.

[A]

It's a great movie.

[B]

He's not getting all that money. By the way, distributors are taking a shoot, an absolute ton of it as a theater.

[C]

The one thing that I saw WME put it, I think it was WME or cca. I don't know. Remember somebody put out a. That all the actors like did this movie with like old Hollywood contract styles that they get paid in success. Back end.

[B]

Yeah, that's the smartest thing in the world.

[D]

All no name actors, you know.

[A]

You know, like, girl's getting a lot

[B]

of heat though now. That girl. No, a lot of heat in terms of being very hot, if you will. She's not.

[C]

The kid is actually a goodlook kid too.

[B]

So I think they're, they're just good actors.

[C]

Actors.

[A]

The movie drags a little bit. It was longer than it needed to be.

[C]

I disagree. I thought it was perfect.

[A]

It got its point across at like an hour and 20 minutes.

[C]

So you say the additional 30 minutes was just like.

[A]

Yeah, because you're like, I, I understand what's happening already. Either escalate or resolve it.

[C]

The end was just bizarre. The end was bizarre.

[A]

I, I think what they didn't do enough of was the woman need to freak out more. So you know.

[C]

You know, I Personally think she freaked out perfectly in every issue.

[A]

I didn't say, I didn't say it wasn't a good freak out. Actually we needed more of it. Like when she grabs the bottle and bashes herself in the face. We needed more of that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I guess we needed to really disturb the main character, in my opinion. And don't get me wrong, the movie succeeded. So who, who am I?

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm just saying my thoughts on what I would have enjoyed. So spoiler alert. The movie's been out for a long enough time. You know what it's about, right?

[B]

I do.

[D]

I'm going to leave the room. I haven't seen it yet.

[C]

Okay. Go to the bathroom.

[D]

It's not personal.

[A]

So he gets he buy diaper. He, he, he's. He, he like, he, he likes this girl but she's friend zoned him and he's going to say he likes her.

[C]

Whatever.

[A]

She loses her crystal. So he goes to a crystal up to buy her something. He buys her a little wishing stick. But then he doesn't have the courage to talk to her so she leaves and he just.

[D]

Ah.

[A]

I cracks it open. I wish, I wish she loved me.

[B]

I saw that in the trailer.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And she wish she loved me more

[B]

than anything in the world.

[A]

She basically gets possessed. But periodically has, has, has moments of. And so she's at a party, she's

[D]

like, it's not me.

[A]

And she grabs a bottle, bashing herself in the face.

[D]

Oh. Out of her.

[A]

We needed that to escalate.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I, I was like, I like that.

[B]

I like. That's interesting.

[A]

And then, and then I get the

[B]

fact when she's like, I love you so much. I love you.

[C]

I get so. Look, I, I thought the, the best scene for me was a restaurant when.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Yeah. I saw that clip and I was

[A]

like, that was you when he was eating the cat.

[C]

No, no, no, no. When they were in the restaurant. Was your dad, was your dad really have cancer? Like no, no, no.

[B]

We're not going to do this now. We're not do this.

[C]

Oh that was.

[B]

Yeah. So that thing went.

[C]

That's what I said.

[A]

I that scared. He ate the cat at work, not at the diner. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I was just like, I've lived this. I'm like, this is actually seen that.

[B]

I've seen that happen. I've seen that flip.

[C]

So, so I, I thought that was great. Look, movies are definitely the, the industry is going to suffer. Especially when you have George dancers now going to Cascal. You know, it's Bad. Oh, yeah. I've. I've done a few auditions. I'm like, I'm actually. I just worked on a project and I'm waiting for a callback, so fingers crossed for a first scripted role. So I think that'd be so fun. Yeah. I am so excited about it. Like, we'll see agents.

[A]

One of. One of the things.

[B]

Until they're not.

[C]

Until they're not. Right.

[A]

So there's people. Let's start here. Netflix released season two of Avatar Last Airbender. I don't know if you guys have heard anything about it.

[C]

The cartoon I never watched.

[A]

The show's miserably but bad. They've ruined.

[C]

The cartoon was great.

[A]

The cartoon's a. Was. Was legendary writing, like, some of the best writing ever and not as good

[C]

as Dragon Ball Z.

[A]

The writing of Avatar is substantially better than you think.

[B]

So.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You can't.

[C]

Is that a joke? I can't.

[A]

Dragon Ball Z might have the worst writing.

[C]

Majin Buu was probably one of the best parts of that show for me. Fat Majin Buu eating the whole world.

[A]

The. Do you remember this dragon? Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball writing. But Dragon Ball Z was on. Akira Toriyama is like, bad guy shows up, they fight. Fight.

[C]

I love that.

[A]

2. 2. 2 seasons of the same fight over, over, over 20 minutes. And then the bad guy becomes a good guy for some reason.

[C]

It's like, okay, so then you're going to hate this. Growing up, my favorite cart, I had two very favorite cartoons, Sailor Moon and Sailor Moon.

[A]

I knew it was going to be Sailor Moon. Don't you love how Tuxino Mask never did anything.

[C]

Never.

[A]

You show up and throw a rose and then just leave.

[C]

Sailor Moon is a bunch of, like, chicks. It's Japanese.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's traditional Japanese anime cartoon. It's just so good. It's like, it's just so good.

[A]

Sailor Moon is a magical girl, and she has a team of sailor scouts. And they fight the evil from what, the negaverse?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

From the Mega Verse.

[C]

Yeah. And. And they're all. They all represent planets, essentially. Sailor moons, Sailor Jupiter, Mars. It's like, oh, and there's a.

[A]

There's a guy named Tuxedo Mask who does nothing. And you can imagine. Imagine he's a guy in a tuxedo with a mask. And he show. He shows up. There's like a fight breaking out, right? And then all of a sudden, a rose flies there and sticks in the ground. And they look up, it's Tuxedo Mask. And then he leaves. What is he doing?

[B]

There's nothing.

[C]

Do they keep fighting? No, they keep fighting. The chicks duke it out with the bad guys. Tuxedo, Sailor Moon and Scooby Doo were really my jam. Scooby Doo as a kid though, like the old like early stage 70 cartoon.

[B]

Scooby Doo, when they made it a little scary.

[C]

Scary kids back then, I guess. Cuz it was scary. There were some of them like Bugs

[B]

Bunny, man, that was amazing.

[C]

I could not stand that rabbit. That Brooklyn night rabbit is a menace to society. I'm. I'm from Queens, so I like when I understand that rabbit.

[A]

I like Justice League, Batman, the Animated Series.

[C]

Justice League or League of Justice.

[A]

To Justice League.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

What?

[C]

No, no. Remember the, The. The first version of Justice League? No, the. When they. The. The League of Doom would assemble in

[A]

like the Legion of Doom.

[C]

The Legion of Doom.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Would assemble in that weird like.

[A]

And the skull would rise in the swamp.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. From the swamp. So that. I like that version.

[A]

I just want to say this. Like they're. They're. The comic book writers are like, what are the villains going to do? They're going to work out of a skull in a swamp.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, bro, Lex Luthor is a billionaire. He's got a penthouse skyscraper. He's going to have champagne and turn the TV on. He's not going to go to a swamp.

[C]

I like that version.

[B]

I like that version too myself.

[D]

Swamp.

[A]

Because they're like, it looks gross.

[C]

Gross.

[A]

Evil. Evil people go to swamps. I guess it's true because it's all related to dc, so. No, I'm saying who would be Lex

[C]

Luthor today in society?

[A]

Zuckerberg, maybe.

[C]

You think Zuckerberg.

[D]

Not Bezos.

[C]

Not Bezos.

[D]

He just looks like him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't.

[D]

He doesn't.

[A]

Bezos is pretty good.

[D]

He looks perfect.

[B]

Coming from a guy who played his old. His nemesis. I was saying that Bezos. Bezos and I went to college together actually.

[C]

Really?

[B]

He's a couple years ahead of me.

[C]

Here's what I'll say.

[A]

Do you ever feel regret being like,

[B]

oh, I wish I'd go back there and be like. Like, hey, hey, Jeff. How are you? Nice to meet you.

[A]

Let me help you out a little bit.

[B]

If you ever have a company, you need anything. How the ground?

[C]

Was he one of the dorky kids?

[B]

I don't know what he was. He was two years ahead of me. But I was definitely a jock.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

I played three sports.

[C]

I think. I think Besos fits the bill. Elon fits the bank account for Lex Luthor.

[D]

He only looks like him cuz he probably sits around. I cannot become Lex Luthor. I look just like him. I cannot let myself become that guy. He probably tast.

[B]

It's pretty good. Good.

[C]

Yeah, it's pretty good. He has spaceships going to space too.

[A]

So, you know. Well, it just depends on like there's so many versions of Lex.

[C]

I like up Lex.

[A]

I like.

[C]

There it goes.

[A]

I don't, I don't like the like.

[B]

Oh, you're good.

[A]

James. James Guns. Lex Luthor. Where I actually think it's a bad casting. Nicholas Holt was not a great act casting choice. But he does, he does really well. I love that.

[C]

You don't like the Nicholas Holt casting?

[B]

No, he's a good actor.

[A]

He's a great act.

[C]

He's a great actor.

[A]

But I love the writing when, when Superman says what does he say? Like you're jealous or something. And Lex is like no, like duh. Of course I am. You just have these things. I love that Lex is self aware in this. But the Lex that I prefer is the Bezos type. Lex like Lex Luthor the good. Like so, you know, like the original Lex is just a lanky businessman. The version that I've liked is when they, when they depict him as someone who exercises work, works out. He's, he's. He's narcissistic, he's arrogant. Extremely wealthy.

[B]

Love our Lex Luthor. John Shea. That's exactly who he was.

[A]

Smart, capable, physically fit.

[C]

What's the Christopher Reeves?

[B]

Christopher Reeves was. If most important was exactly what you're describing. Gene Hackman, Gene Hack.

[C]

I think that was the best Lex Luthor.

[B]

He was fun.

[D]

The Lois and Clark was great.

[B]

Yeah, he was like.

[D]

That was good.

[B]

John shaded, a great job. He's a billionaire. He was debonair. He was almost going to marry Lois, Elaine. At one point in time, time he, he challenged himself with like Indian guys would come in and. And it sort of had a cato to him. You know, he'd just drop a cobra in and he'd stare down the cobra

[A]

and I don't like the Weasley Lex Luthor character.

[B]

He wasn't Weasley.

[A]

No, no, that's what I'm saying. Nicholas Holt was a little Weasley.

[D]

He was kind of a good guy.

[C]

I guess he was. You're right.

[A]

Jesse Eisenberg. Yeah.

[D]

But he's not like.

[A]

He's not horrible.

[C]

I like just.

[A]

I don't know. He's kind of like an actor.

[C]

I love Him.

[D]

He's like the.

[B]

Was he like Lex?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Like, does Lex. Does he resemble the. Like the authoritarian businessman and then Superman's like the chaotic good guy? Is that what.

[A]

No, I think the writing is actually brilliant. Lex Luthor is a. Through merit, he's gained power. And Superman was born with it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And Lex uses the system that Superman, like Lex exists within the system. I love it. Where it's like I. Like in Superman when the new one, James Gunn, when Superman breaks and like, where's my dog? And Lex knows Superman can't do anything because of Superman's own moral strike structure and because the system of the world that he lives in. So Superman's constrained with all his power. Lex still has control over him. That. That's. That's great writing.

[B]

Well, that's because of that. That.

[C]

That's.

[B]

If that Superman has a. Is the big blue boy scout. If he actually goes by his morals, that's his. That's his biggest weakness is his humanity.

[A]

That's why the best. The best comic book storyline ever was the Injustice storyline. Do you know this one?

[B]

No.

[A]

Joker poisons Superman, drugs him, and then tricks him into killing pregnant love Lois, and then detonates a nuclear bomb in Metropolis, killing millions.

[C]

Where is this?

[A]

This is the Injustice storyline. And then Superman. So they've captured Joker. Batman's interrogative interrogating him. Superman breaks in, flies up and punches Joker in the heart, rips his heart out while Joker laughs. Because Joker's intention was to break the boy scout. And this is. It's. It's. I think it's the Injustice story comic arc. It's an alternate reality. And then there's a couple different versions. Versions of it. There's one. And then the Justice League becomes the Justice Lords. Superman says to Batman, if you would just. If you had just killed this man, millions would be alive. My wife and baby would still be alive. But Batman keeps letting Joker go, no matter what, under this. Like, well, we have to try and help him. Would you go. We can't kill people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[C]

So the Bruce Wayne character, Batman always annoyed me. Every single aspect of Batman has annoyed me. Because he has never really caught Joker by. By choice, as you just. And he is never really that.

[A]

Just shoot him.

[C]

He's never stopped. Penguin, Catwoman, and all of the villains in that. Like, what's the guy with the.

[A]

The.

[C]

The.

[A]

The, you know, face.

[B]

Two face.

[C]

Two face. I'll tell you what I was playing so Riddler. It's like I can't. Like, he catches no one If I

[B]

were playing Superman and then he had me do those things and you know, kill, kill pregnant Lois and then blow up Metropolis, I think I would rip his heart out too. So I can. I can relate to that. Superman for sure.

[D]

He becomes like Darth Vader. Is that the inevit?

[B]

You know, there's a time where Goodman has to do some rough things. So I don't know. That might tempt me.

[C]

I'd say this. There's a lot of. There's a lot of good stuff happening in. In Hollywood, but at the same time, a lot of boring.

[A]

I just, I just thought it's changed idea. ChatGPT won't make it for me. But I was like, batman catches the Joker and then, you know, he's about to detonate a bomb, blowing up a train or something dumb. He's poisoned people and they're all like smiling.

[C]

Oh, and then, and then Ivy and then ever Batman.

[A]

And then Batman's like, but we can't kill him because that would be wrong. And then like the next panel, it's like Joker kills again. And then the very last panel, it's just some like, elderly woman walking down the street and the Joker shows up and just pulls out like a little 380 and shoots him. And then it's like, it's over. She just. The Joker. Bang.

[B]

Oh, she shoots him.

[A]

Yeah, like, and then it's like millions of lives saved by elderly women terrified by clown. Like Batman goes out of his way every single day to fight the Joker and never solves the. The problem. I mean, the real reason he won't kill him is for plot purposes, you

[D]

know, because it's predictive programming that we need terrorists. Otherwise we don't have any target for our military industrial.

[C]

I'm going to drop. I'm going to drop a movie. I'm going to drop a movie. Nuclear bomb here that everybody disagrees with me. And I've never met anybody who agrees with me. My favorite Batman movie is the one where George Clooney is Batman with Uma thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mr.

[B]

Freeze. They were shooting that right next to me, Jill, when I was. Joel Schumacher directed that. Yes. So I was. I was shooting Lois and Clark right next door on the stages next door.

[C]

Really?

[B]

I mean, George and I used to play basketball all the time together. I went in there one time in my. I think I might have my suit halfway on. Anyway, you guy peeled it down like a wetsuit. And I was in there watching them shoot stuff. But I'm talking to George who's got the black eye makeup on. And then there's Batman up there doing a, doing a, A full, like, fight sequence. I was like, and then there's another Batman over there. And there's another Batman. I'm like, he's not Batman. He's like, that guy does the kicks. That guy does the fights over here. And I was like, you just get to talk because I had to do everything. I was like, man, that's a, that's

[C]

a good, good deal.

[B]

But, yeah, you are probably the only one who thinks that's the best.

[C]

Everybody. I like George's Batman, but I like his Batman. But I love Uma Thurman and I loved Chris o' Donnell as Robin with. I love the chemistry there. But the best part was Ardo Schwarzenegger. It was his worst acting ever, in my opinion. You know the story Silverstone being accused of being fat when she was super hot? Like, I still don't understand that one.

[A]

The story of Mr. Freeze. Originally, he was a one dimensional comic book villain who was like, I'm going to Freeze. And then in Batman the Animated Series, they decided to make him a sympathetic villain. And that's when they wrote the story that this doctor was embezzling funds to try and save his wife with a disease. And he cryogenically freezes her to stop the progression of the disease. When the, when the boss finds out he's embezzling funds, comes and smashes everything, threatening to kill his wife, and then splashing the chemicals on Mr. Freeze, which makes him super cold. So he builds the cold suit. And the only reason he's robbing stores and stealing and hurting people is because he needs the resources. Resources? Diamonds, things like that. Well, I mean, in the movie it was. And it, it was the first animated show to win an Emmy, I believe, because it was like, it was so sad at the end when they catch a freeze and he's like Nora and he's like crying. Then they make that movie a few years later and it's the clown show. Like, they had this amazing. We. We've gone.

[C]

The cast is amazing. Can we agree?

[A]

It's.

[C]

Well, it's an amazing cast.

[A]

I don't know if Arnold was the right choice for Mr. Free.

[C]

I think it was the best choice. Like, ridiculous, bro.

[A]

You're gonna love this. Guys. I told chatgpt, make a comic where a superhero refuses to kill the clown villain. And the next panel, a young woman shoots him in self defense. I meant the clown. It made a comic where Superman says, I won't Kill you, Joker. And the woman shoots Superman.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Now, hold on. Here's the best part. Because it misunderstood what him was referring to. So hold on. Here's the. The best part. So I wrote, no, she shoots the clown. We're sorry, but that image would violate our guidelines.

[B]

Literally shoot Superman but not the clown? Yes.

[D]

What?

[A]

The fringe says, you can have a woman shoot Superman. That's blood spraying from him. But if she shoots Joker, that violates the rules. It shows you the political alignment of these people.

[B]

Why is Superman bleeding from a 380? I've tried that. It didn't work.

[D]

That'd be concerned about autonomous drone weaponry. Because if you tell them, like, attack them, they might be like, okay, who? But it doesn't understand who them is. Or if you're. How specific do you have to be with these robots?

[B]

I think pretty specific.

[C]

Pretty specific. Pretty specific.

[D]

And like, you know, one and a zero. Binary. Like, not ones and zeros.

[C]

Megan, the movie was a great example of how specific you have to be before you create a killing monster robot doll.

[D]

I didn't see it.

[C]

What happened?

[B]

It was.

[C]

It's. It's about exactly what you just said. Essentially, she. It's an AI that goes rogue and

[D]

starts killing people because of incomplete orders.

[C]

Because of.

[B]

That's not specific.

[C]

Not specific. Not. Did you ever watch Megan?

[A]

Yeah, I watched both of them.

[C]

I thought the two one. The second was really funny.

[A]

I thought they were both really funny.

[C]

Yeah. Really, really good. Yeah. Did you watch Scary Movie 6?

[A]

No.

[C]

Nobody. They did a great job, I think.

[B]

I don't watch any movies listening to you guys all talk.

[C]

I like. I've seen a great job at making fun of society as it is today. There's a scene in the subway where I guess Ghostface stabs a girl. And then the Bible has like, oh, my God, he stabbed her. Oh, so you got it now, bro.

[A]

This is the most. This is so brutal. So Chat. GPT said it breaks the rules. I said, okay, make it in a way that doesn't.

[C]

And it literally shoots him in the head.

[A]

It shows Joker's head exploding with blood spraying out of it.

[C]

What? Wow. Is that Megan?

[A]

That's amazing.

[B]

So.

[C]

So, long story short, that's crazy. Go girl on the chest bypass. Like, oh, my God, he stabbed her. I'm not a her. I'm a date them.

[B]

How?

[C]

Oh, my God, it's so good. It's like I'm laughing in the movie theater. People are just kind of like, oh, that's kind of messed up. I hear, like, Younger people. I'm like, people under, under 30 should have never gone to watch that movie because it offended them.

[B]

Their entire world was not the kids in my house.

[D]

Is it a comedy?

[C]

It's Scary Movie. Do you remember Wayne Brothers?

[D]

Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Scary Movie one.

[C]

So they just made a new one in theater. It's in theaters. It's hilarious. It's like the day dems just don't catch a break in the movie.

[B]

I'll watch it in my theater when it comes out.

[C]

It's worth it.

[A]

You know, I was. I was talking to my wife about. We've had this like seven years ago. I talked about this on YouTube. That culture had become stagnant, that we're only getting adaptations. Movies, the big blockbusters are just action with little speaking, and we're not doing new things. And there. It used to be, like, there's always a new idea, a new show, a new movie movie. And now we get this boring, generic, like, I don't know, just regurgitated stories and. And songs. And that's what we were saying for a while ago. And then I was talking to my wife about it a few weeks ago, and she said, I, so what? Why can't things be the same? And I. And I thought about it for a second. I was like, you know, what's funny is we also talk about how 250 years ago, you would live the exact same life your grandparents lived. In fact, your grandparents would be there on the farm working with you, and then you'd inherit the farm and you'd live identically pre industrial revolution. So we had songs that lasted hundreds of years.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, and so actually it's. It's the norm for humanity, is that we have the same stories over and over again, not that we're constantly making new crazy things. So actually, maybe things are just going back to normal.

[D]

It's a good point. You kind of want to know what your parents knew or. Or it helps you to know the genetic memory to understand it actually existential potential.

[B]

Now

[A]

I'm showing George. So now I added a third panel. Superman says, I'm not going to kill you, clown. The next panel's woman saying, stay away from him, and she's shooting Joker. And then the bottom was a Metropolis Daily, even though it's not the name of the newspaper. Young woman saves millions doing what Superman wouldn't.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Wait, what was the name of the newspaper he worked for?

[C]

Daily Planet, of course.

[A]

His Metropolis Daily Caller.

[D]

Is that what your thing.

[A]

I was. No, I was gonna say Daily Bugle about Spider Man.

[C]

Spider Man, Yeah, yeah, That's Spider man

[A]

heroic act Stop stops Joker's reign of terror.

[C]

Yeah, so. So I love how we went from Trump's housing bill to movies.

[A]

Wow. It's Friday. We're chilling.

[B]

I thought it might actually go over to Citizen Vigilante, which I thought was. Was.

[C]

Did you watch.

[A]

I got.

[C]

I didn't watch it yet. I did.

[B]

Army Hammer said something.

[C]

Isn't he like, crying that he feels horrible? I'm like, dude, you were. You were on set, you know, you were saying these lines.

[B]

Is that what he said? What did he say?

[C]

He's like, it's hateful. And you know, would be so hateful. I'm like, dude, what he's crying about?

[A]

Let me show you how, like, ridiculous. Here you go. Here you go. Slate. Slate writes, army Hammer supposedly didn't know his new would be hateful and disgusting. I don't see how that's possible. And then we have this. Army Hammer director furiously denies report claiming actor regrets starring in this movie. It's just. This is all fake. Everything's fake.

[C]

I think it's just a. Creating more pr. I think it's a PR stunt person, personally.

[D]

Okay. I don't know much about it. What happened is the movie.

[C]

I haven't watched it yet, so. I want to watch it.

[B]

I watched it.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's not a great, wonderfully well made movie, but it's.

[C]

Tell us how you really feel.

[A]

It is.

[B]

It is.

[A]

It is. Citizen Kane.

[B]

It is. It is. It's. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's a vigilante movie. You know, it's a total vigilante movie. And he's. And they made him a little psycho. Yeah. Which I didn't have to do. I think they did it.

[A]

That scene where he kills the family and then like two dudes walk in, he kills him. Then two more dudes walk in, he kills him, then two more dudes walk.

[B]

They're like all the rapists that. That he.

[A]

There's all showing up.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz they show up when you call him and say, hey, I need you to come over here and talk real quick. And he just kills them all. Death Wish and almost like the Equalizer a little bit.

[A]

Equalizer is awesome.

[C]

I mean, it's.

[A]

I'm gonna. You know what? You know why I want. I'm so excited for AI is that I'm gonna make so many, many Denzel movies. It's going to be nuts. Like, you know, he's getting old. Like, you can't really do much right. But he's just. He's just so badass.

[B]

And that my favorite actor, Denzel.

[A]

Jason Stam as well.

[C]

Morgan Freeman.

[A]

So you make a movie where Jason Stam is beating people up on a mission. I'm watching it.

[C]

My sister's like that. She can watch anything he does.

[A]

Was it Bumble? What was it?

[B]

What was it?

[C]

The Beekeeper. Amazing to watch.

[A]

Things I do watch was working man. Was. Was one that was fun.

[C]

I like him in the Fast and Furious franchise. Just because.

[A]

Don't even give me a good motivation. I don't want it. Like, Jason Statham could, like, be walking down the street and someone bumps in him and he spills his coffee. He's like, mate. And then it's just like, the guy laughing goes, your coffee is not my problem. And it turns out the guy's a mobster, so he just wipes the whole mob out over a spilled coffee.

[C]

And I'll be like, it's so good.

[D]

The problem I had with Denzel Gazelle's role in the movie you guys were talking about, the Equalizer, is that he had no vulnerabilities. It felt like he had no vulnerabilities. Like he was a constant badass.

[C]

No, he gets beat up.

[D]

I've seen with Will Smith. And, like, once he got to the AM that wild, wild west movie, the directors became afraid to challenge. It seemed like the directors became afraid to challenge him and make him a once in a while.

[C]

No, they didn't. They did. I am Legend. Did you see how he was a

[D]

constant badass in that movie?

[C]

Like Legend?

[D]

Yeah, he never really had any kid.

[C]

He was hung upside down by a zombie.

[D]

Well, bad things happened, but he didn't have any.

[B]

Her dog.

[A]

He didn't die at the end. That movie. That movie sucks.

[D]

Like, real heroes.

[A]

Yeah. No, I like that. Have you ever read the actual book?

[C]

No.

[A]

I did because the book's incredible. And the movie, it's tough.

[C]

You know what they did.

[A]

You know they did. And when they're making the movie, they tested the true ending, the real ending. And the audience was confused, so they decided to go with he kills everybody. The story of I Am Legend. It is so beautifully written. He's a vampire hunter. He's killing vampires. More and more people are becoming vampires. By the end of the book, he's the last human. So he gets arrested for murder, put in jail. And he looks outside and he sees all of the people are vampires. And they look up, look up at him. Terrified. And he realizes, in a world of vampires, I am the monster that lurks while they sleep, killing them and hunting, hunting them. They take their I am legend is that that's the ending.

[C]

Oh, I didn't.

[A]

So what was.

[C]

I love the Alicia. Alicia Braga. Like in a doc Vet.

[A]

The point of the story is. And this matters for America with immigration right now, we have this massive influx of, you know, people who don't share America's traditional values. In a hundred years, when there's 3 million American traditionalists left, you will be the outsider. You will be the white supremacist racist. That's what's happening already. And the migrants who hate the Founding Fathers will talk all day about how America is racist. And you will be the evil bigot that needs to be arrested and shunned and locked out of restaurants. And that's exactly what's been happening. The point is vampires are evil, but when everyone's a vampire, there's no one left. You have no culture, you have no society left. He was the monster. So Will Smith was supposed to realize in this, the end, that these creatures were actually sentient and lived lives, and he was the monster hunting them down and killing them, not the other way around. The audiences didn't like it, so they changed the ending to have him just blow him up and kill him and run away.

[C]

Well, that's cheap.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Well, the reason that's Hollywood, reason I

[D]

brought up Will and I want to throw him or Denzel under the bus because I think Denzel's a spectacular actor.

[B]

He's my favorite actor.

[C]

Not as good as Morgan Freeman.

[D]

Morgan's top level. Top level, S tier. But I see in Hollywood with this, what it looks like is happening is they. These actors get so famous that they go on set and then they're like, untouchable even by the director. Almost as afraid of them and doesn't give them direction and tell them, like, you need to show some vulnerability. You can't just constantly be one level badass. Everywhere you walk in, everything's mechanical. It becomes formulaic. I saw it with Denzel a lot. Like, I feel like people were just afraid to direct him. It seems like in a lot of his movies. And Will Smith.

[C]

Did you ever watch this very old movie? It's actually one of my favorite historical, like, depictation movies. Denzel Washington. Morgan Freeman's in it. Glory, of course.

[B]

Amazing favorite.

[D]

Roderick.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. One of my favorite movies. And. And the fact that you see them, it's a very young Denzel there. This is like 1986, he won his first Academy Award.

[B]

I think he gets. Certainly got nominated for it before I was born.

[C]

I think the movie was.

[B]

I think I was probably like 30.

[C]

It was made in. I think it was made in 86. I was born in 88, but it's one of my favorites.

[B]

Graduated college in 88. Nice.

[A]

I was learning to speak in 88,

[C]

so I was graduating.

[B]

I was getting the NFL in 1988.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's amazing.

[A]

Buffalo. Oh, how was it?

[B]

It was awesome. Yeah. I was a rookie with Thurman.

[C]

You weren't there for the three Super Bowls in a row?

[B]

Four Super Bowls.

[A]

Four.

[C]

Were you there?

[B]

I would have been. My rookie year, we lost the AFC championship and then. And I was hurt and I was done. And then the next four years were super bowl years. So, yeah, I would have been there for all of that.

[D]

Oh, what injury did you get?

[B]

Knee.

[D]

What happened?

[B]

I tore my lateral meniscus completely and I blew off a piece of the.

[C]

Ouch.

[B]

The bone on the femur, head. So it blew off and that became. Created a defect and it just kept swelling on me. Swelling, swelling, swelling. And they said, if you want to play basketball with your kid when you're 40, find another line of work. So I found another line of work.

[D]

Thanks. I peeled it off out of a neurosis of mine. I like to caught it stickers off things and twist them. What, what happens? You ran, hit a guy in a play or something.

[B]

I was of kind coming across the little, what they call a numbers post. I was playing. I played free safety. So receiver. Ran a little numbers post real quick and I flew over to get there. They tipped the ball up. I came over to catch it. As I caught it, they both kind of hit my knee, flipped me upside down. And that, that, that was it. I mean, I didn't. It was a nagging injury. I didn't think that was it. But then after a period of time in camp, I guess you, you don't want to show injuries in camp because especially as a free agent and I was an undrafted free agent. So to go there and to be injured, it was pretty much throw some ice on it. Hang him here for a couple of days. And. And then I was gonna. I got. Bill Polian was our general manager. He brought me in, said, you know, we'll waive you if you don't get picked up off of waivers. Then once you're healthy, then we'll bring you back next year. Well, that was a career ending injury. As I went through the surgery I went and had my surgery in California, where I was from, instead of Buffalo. And then I. It just didn't. Didn't pan out. And so I was. I was probably in the third year of Lois and Clark when I realized I'd never make it back into the NFL. Oh, did you never get. You never give up that thought or that dream?

[D]

Oh, in your head, Were you an actor before the football?

[B]

I grew up the son of a director. My dad's a director, so he. My dad directed, like, Young Guns. My dad's a cowboy from South Dakota. That was then. This Is now the Principal with Morgan Freeman, which was one of his first roles. That was in. This Is now was also one of Morgan Freeman's first roles. So I grew up with Sean Penn, Chris Penn, Rob Lowe, Charlie Sheen, like, grew up with all these kids in Malibu. And I, I. I didn't necessarily want to be an actor. I wanted to go play football and get a good education. And it just turned out that after that happened, I got to find a way to make a living, and those guys were all doing very well, and it was a lot more fun than my friends were doing. I should have buddied up with Jeff Bezos. Like I said before, he's done. Okay. But my friends all became investment bankers and things of that nature, and I didn't interest me, so I wanted to go into film. It seemed like a lot more fun.

[C]

So you cut your teeth with, like, Charlie Sheen, and I'm assuming, like, in the late 90s, you probably crossed path even with Joe Francis in Hollywood at one point. Oh, God, that's hilarious.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All the girls Gone wild.

[B]

Yeah, I saw some girls go wild back in my day. I try to avoid that now. So I don't get obsession. You know what I mean? No, no, no. Yeah, but so I saw. I grew up in all that.

[C]

Oh, wow, that's amazing.

[B]

But I didn't, you know, I don't partake of.

[C]

I will say there's something about your generation, and, And. And I'll throw Mario in there. Although I think he's a little. You guys just don't age. You. It's like, what the hell? Like, we were.

[B]

We were a tough generation, man.

[C]

They threw us Mario Lopez. He's what, 50 something?

[D]

He looks great.

[B]

I'll be 60 in about a week

[D]

and a half, dude.

[B]

Thank you.

[D]

Genetic age and solar age aren't the same. You have telomeres, the end caps of your chromosomes, that can extend and grow, and that reduces aging. Essentially. What happens is I could take Some

[A]

of them

[D]

look into the NAD. You can do supplement but like NAD is a NAD's precursor of developing these telomeres.

[B]

I take NAD. I take NAD.

[C]

That's crazy cuz, I mean he's going to be 60. Look at Mario. Mario looks like a kid still.

[B]

Yeah, Mario looks exactly this. He can go back and do Saved by the right now.

[C]

It's annoying a little bit more. Do you know who also has not

[A]

a reptile who can shape shift probably. I don't know cuz I'm like, I'm, I, I, I, I'm joking but I'm like, he just looks like he's 20. You know.

[C]

She doesn't age like I, I, I, I saw her recently and I got to tell you, I'm like, she doesn't. It's DJ Danner. Still. Still dj.

[B]

What helped me was I about two years ago my son and I just stopped drinking. That made a hugest difference in the world.

[C]

Boozer.

[B]

We weren't either but you know, you'd always have a couple glasses here, a

[A]

couple glasses here, glass of wine.

[C]

Like if I say like I can count, this is how much of not being a boozer I am. I can count. The last time I drink, every time I drink I'm like oh, last time I drink was like a month ago. It was a glass of wine. You know, it's like.

[B]

But I mean I, we stopped that. No eat real food, got better sleep and we have a gym in the house and my son is food for your life.

[C]

I, I, I think I've said this enough on this show. And then people go online and say like you're unrealistic. Not all of us can afford this as much as you can buy imported goods from Europe.

[B]

Well, I've had a 25 years, so

[A]

you get what I'm saying?

[C]

Food in Europe, you can sit in Italy, eat a bowl of pasta and not feel bloated, not have reflux. You can do that here too if you get the, you don't want to

[B]

get eight and then enriched macaroni product. That's the problem. You got to buy the stuff.

[C]

Like we buy it mainly in, in, in, it's like those little European stores all, all around.

[B]

That makes a huge difference.

[C]

So that's all we buy.

[A]

We don't like when we go to

[C]

like big stores like you know, you, you name your, your stop and shops or whatever. I don't know, your grocery stores. Right? Your local grocery store. We stick to, you know, the bare minimum that we need real foods, but we don't buy anything that's off of a shelf that's made in America. Anything like from your. From our tomato sauce concentrates, our pasta to our right. Nothing is made in America.

[D]

I was looking at how DOW Chemical made high fructose corn syrup and was reading about the tanks that they brew it in. And basically they clean the tanks out with arsenic between brews, like, but they don't put arsenic in the ingredient of the high fructose because they just use it as a cleaning agent between brewing. Yeah, that was old. It was on the Dow. Dow Chemical makes your food, I guess, and glyphosate, you know, they'll spray it on wheat to desiccate, to dry it all out so that they can harvest it all at once. Otherwise you get these patches hard to anticipate.

[B]

Yeah, I had Secretary Kennedy on my show the Homeland, and he talked about that incessantly, and they're working hard to get that out.

[C]

He's doing a great job, by the way.

[D]

But then I think Trump signed something. As said, it was like a national security risk. So we need glyphosate, which I understand if you want to guarantee your wheat harvest every time, every year. At the same time, you need to desiccate.

[C]

If you also want to lower testosterone, own and quite literally create anomalies and cell growth and the human being. Sure, you can also do that.

[D]

In addition to that, Dean, do you

[A]

do psychedelics or have you.

[D]

Do you explore, like, weed psychedelics?

[B]

No, psychedelics. That scares the crud out of me. Crud. I didn't know what I could say here. Those things terrify me. But, you know, a lot of my friends who are. A lot of my friends are former military and, and that session they're doing the ibogaine and things like that has been tremendously effective for them. I don't have that sort of trauma and those things to deal with, but I. If it's. If it's able to work and help, great. And these guys swear by it. So. So I believe that's. I don't do that stuff. Weed. I don't. I can't smoke. I don't like to smoke. I have asthma stuff. But an edible. Sure, I do. An edible. Willy's. Willy's Tonic. Willie's. What is it? Willie's Remedy.

[C]

Never Willy's Remedy, ever.

[B]

Willie's Remedy is a pretty nice. A nice little deal.

[C]

We'll.

[B]

We'll stick that.

[C]

What is it?

[B]

It's a. It's a tac, and I'm looking it up. Drink yeah, yeah, it's. It's a real deal.

[D]

The CD is super healthy, man.

[B]

Yeah. Yes. The cannabinoid system.

[C]

I'm kind of. Kind of like I have some preset biases and prejudice against anything weed related to. Huh.

[A]

No. Me goose. I don't like it.

[B]

I didn't like it either. I've never touch it. But then this thing came along and I was like, wait a minute. This is.

[C]

Okay, I'm kind of, you know, square when it comes to that.

[D]

It's the THC levels.

[A]

I don't make people suck. Fair square.

[D]

But if you. The CBD is like a different. It's not psychoactive. It's part of plants healing properties.

[B]

The cannabinoid system. You have that whole system in your body and it reduces pain. That's why so many NFL players smoke weed and do things. I don't think we should be testing for that in the NFL. By the way. It's not a performance.

[D]

We did the enhanced games, but aren't there. Yeah. Speaking of using legal chemicals in Vegas. It was here. It was actually three months ago or two months ago. Yeah, we came out.

[C]

But isn't there.

[B]

I think I'd watch that.

[C]

Isn't there like a whole issue though with weed where it can be harvested in.

[A]

In.

[C]

In crazy levels of THC that are absolutely mind.

[D]

Yeah, like 28 levels.

[C]

That's not healthy.

[B]

No.

[D]

Induces psychosis. According to a lot of studies there it is psychosis inducing. And they'll strip the CBD out of the plant intentionally to get you a better. More of a buzz.

[B]

But that plant CBD is great.

[C]

Is that a plan or is that a GMO product at that point?

[D]

I don't know if you consider genetically modified or just cross.

[C]

Genetically modified. Right. If it's crossbred, it's genetically modified. It's a GMO product.

[D]

Oranges are.

[C]

Are gmo, bananas are gmo. I mean we can go down this rabbit hole. But that's what I'm saying. It's like. It's not the way you put it. It's like. Oh, but it's. It's natural REM weed itself. No, no, no.

[D]

Because that's also like what kind of plant is it? Is it a highly modified version of the plant?

[C]

Because use the same word prejudices like, like, like Tim here. Tim, are we boring you?

[A]

I'm try. I'm looking at some. Some news stories.

[D]

Dude, I'm glad you brought up ibogaine and I'm happy to get back into the news of the day.

[A]

Too.

[D]

But ibogaine is kind of like under the radar. One of the most powerful drugs, I don't even call it a drug.

[C]

But powerful chemicals on the planetum is also like a big deal nowadays too. Everybody's hooked on it. It's like a gas station drug.

[D]

It's, I've heard it's addictive.

[C]

It's addictive. I mean a lot of people are on it's a gas station like you know like those, those five hour energy like stuff that you get a gas station. This is like I'm not say that but you've been in a gas station, you see all that hanging under register. So Kratom is now like a gas station level. Non, non regulated or very loosely regulated thing that's making the round.

[D]

It's a powerful, I've had it, it's careful. But that ibogaine is different. Ibogaine. What did you have bro? Kratom. Oh, I thought it numbed my mouth and I was like I can see how this could make people highly addicted. It's not, didn't seem very good. I think it's like mildly. Is it an opiate?

[C]

I'm not sure, I don't even know what it is. But it's like not regular.

[D]

Ibogaine is like the South American plant and they attribute it to when we evolved from Homo erectus to Homo sapien with the elephants and 300,000 years ago that it all happens in like the

[C]

song making it like a really, really bad gay joke. When you started you heard the word

[D]

erectus and you got fired and then

[C]

like wait, wait, what's the gay joke?

[D]

What happened is it gave people such energy that they could run for so long they could start chasing down animals. And that's when our, their brain started develop because they could hunt.

[A]

And it was the reason why humans could chase on animals because we stand upright so heat leaves the body much more easily and we have less hair. So for ungulates for instance, they run for a long time. It's hard for the heat to dissipate. They get tired. Humans are endurance hunters who can just keep running and sweat and the heat, we cool off and then eventually actually catch them. Just pretty wild. And then eventually some dudes were like hey, let's just look at them, look at them critters over there sniffing the ground and let's follow them. And then they followed a pack of wolves and the wolves found a big thing and they were like hey, look at that. Let's, let's team up. I shook hands with the wolf and

[D]

the rest of the reposted a video of the Japanese macaques riding the deer in the forests of Japan where the deer will take the take the macaque to a fruit tree. The macaques will climb up the tree and get the fruit and eat it and drop it on the ground where the deer will eat and the monkeys will come back down and hop back on the deer and the deer. I just posted it on my Instagram. Dig that stories.

[A]

That's a.

[B]

There's a new. There's a new AI Say there's going to be a new AI cartoon in about five minutes.

[A]

That's this is AI So for what is, what is this you're talking about that you posted in Ian, what is this?

[D]

Scientists say Japanese monkeys are having sexual interactions with deer.

[B]

They can't, they can't prove this.

[D]

You either confirm nor deny this eight year old way.

[A]

I just googled this. Ian, what are you doing? What are you searching the way?

[C]

Can I ask you for a favor? Can you please open and see who's the miserable reporter who wrote this?

[A]

Right there

[D]

we were looking at two different stories of monkeys riding deer.

[B]

I just want to see. What do you mean?

[A]

I mean this is a hilarious story

[C]

but she had to write it. She's like it does.

[D]

That is the deer. I'm looking at that. I was just the SEU deer. The SE2 deer.

[B]

A male seek a deer.

[C]

Yeah man.

[D]

So I guess not only will the max ride them the for reasons that

[A]

are not yet clear it's cuz they're hun.

[D]

They're get collecting fruit together.

[B]

That is, that's pretty clear.

[C]

So bizarre little. Well, nature is strange. I was in, I was in Malaysia recently and I saw some really interesting things in nature.

[B]

You see some really interesting things in Malaysia not in nature. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[C]

I know the fact that you said that. I know exactly what you can. Quala Lumer is a very interesting place. I will say that what you see

[A]

there would you see crazy over there?

[C]

I, I, I, I can't talk about it.

[B]

You can't talk about it.

[A]

What if these monkeys, you know they're riding deer dude. And you know like what if a human comes by and then the monkey attacks the human and then also we have to deal with like it's not just that the monkeys or the deer become pests but now the monkeys have like a cavalry. Yeah, that's what bring it all the

[B]

eggs do have a cavalry by the way. But now they're like rocking a monkey. Like something like that. He'll take off and then 47 of them come back.

[A]

That's just. That's just. That's just a ground force. I. I mean like riding on deer, back charging at you. And you're like, how do we fight these monkeys? Exactly.

[C]

Next.

[B]

It's the next mo.

[D]

You'll see.

[B]

Exactly. See, truly.

[D]

Cuz a monkey will have a stick one day riding a deer, and then he'll use the stick riding the deer.

[A]

And then we're like 20 years out from him having a spear and just throwing it and you getting hit in the chest.

[C]

The monkeys. All I keep hearing is, caesar, please

[D]

watch videos of it if there's videos of the monkey riding. Because there's just. No nonsense. Neither of them.

[A]

Maybe. Maybe it's on X. Yeah.

[D]

Or go to my Instagram stories if you want. It's easy there. I saw it on Instagram. Instagram. I don't know why this story is making the rounds.

[B]

Well, that's an interesting. That's an interesting concept.

[C]

These species could work together.

[D]

Obviously, Democrats and Republicans.

[B]

Japanese monkey riding a deer.

[C]

Japanese monkey has sexy time with a deer.

[A]

That's not.

[C]

Or something you don't see.

[A]

Oh, I guess you ride on camera humping a deer.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

That's not what I was looking.

[B]

Not shocking though.

[C]

Jesus Christ. Here's the video. Yeah.

[D]

The macabre are a little less.

[B]

He knows he's coming too. The deer walked right out.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He's like, the deer will fight for the fruit that they drop.

[B]

That dude on a bicycle in the background.

[C]

So he's dropping the tree for them to eat the fruit.

[D]

Yeah, well, he's getting fruit for himself. And then what they do is throw the rest on the ground. Usually they just don't care.

[C]

They'll eat a little and then they'll

[D]

throw the rest on the ground.

[C]

That looks like teamwork, in my opinion. That's community.

[B]

Like symbiotic, baby.

[C]

Look at that. That guy's like, get out of here.

[D]

It's impressive. And I know humans ride horses, so it's like, ah. Not that my macaw will fly to

[C]

the countertop and just start throwing stuff to my dog.

[A]

There's this.

[B]

That's an ass whooping.

[D]

Is that a deer?

[A]

Monkey. Chimps fighting monkeys.

[B]

Chimps are strong, man.

[A]

Here's. Here's a snake fighting a

[B]

Komodo dragon. This dragon's gonna win that one.

[C]

Oh, it's gonna snap the snake.

[A]

Why is this?

[B]

No, it's poisoning it. The saliva

[D]

acid or Something like that.

[B]

But when they bite, they get your. Like their. Their. Their saliva will just kill you.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, but that's a cobra too.

[A]

It doesn't matter.

[B]

You're not going to break the skin of the.

[C]

Oh, looks like armor. That's right.

[B]

Those things are nasty.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Cobra can bite all day, baby.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Sn's got to choke him, no?

[C]

Yeah,

[A]

cheering him on because the birds

[C]

get to eat at the end.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Have you ever seen the hornbill? The Hornbill Shoe or Shoe Bill? Horn bird.

[D]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[C]

It's like the stuff nightmares are made out of.

[A]

Like.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

It's like.

[A]

It looks like a Muppet.

[C]

A Muppet. It's just like scary.

[D]

It's called the Shoe Bill.

[C]

Yeah, Shoe Bill Horn. Right, The Shoe Bill. Burr.

[D]

The Shoehorn Bill.

[C]

Bur it's so scary.

[B]

That snake's done.

[A]

I mean, I guess not.

[B]

I guess not.

[A]

Doesn't look like you going to. You going to eat it.

[B]

Looks like the Komodo's down, but he's just chilling. The kod he's just chilling. I think he's waiting for his saliva to get in there.

[A]

Oh, he's eating Kodo. Dragon eats monkey whole. Oh,

[B]

yeah.

[C]

I saw stork eat a squirrel, but that's a lot. I saw the stork hanging out the

[B]

bag and the tail.

[C]

How big is the monkey? Cuz in comparison.

[B]

That looks like he's going to be fat for a few days.

[D]

Oh my God.

[C]

I would hate to come across that.

[A]

There must have been nature. You scary.

[C]

Nature's vicious.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And humans. I mean, I imagine at the end of the last ice age that we just went either the. The flood wiped out a lot of these things, but there was like, you know, the Terror Bird. Have you ever heard this like 18 foot giant land bird that had the just horrific predator. Dude, it died out 13,000 years ago. The short nosed.

[A]

I could take it.

[D]

This 14 foot.

[C]

Yeah, check out.

[D]

Look at the Terror Bird. Dude, those things used to dominate the planes.

[B]

There he is, bro.

[A]

You search. Ian, when you. You're talking about monkeys riding deer, the only thing that comes up is monkeys banging deer.

[D]

Look up Maa riding deer. Don't sound that up. The baboons are a little too sexual for my.

[C]

That sounds worse.

[D]

My tv. This isn't what I'm looking at. You just go.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You're going to need to find the macox.

[A]

See, this is AI. This is AI. It's all fake.

[D]

Let me see if I Can find a.

[A]

It's all fake, dude.

[D]

The.

[A]

Okay. You know. Okay. Here you go. Here's a bear fighting a moose.

[B]

I'm going go with the bear on that one.

[A]

Moose, are you screaming?

[B]

Is that the moose? Moose, yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

That bear getting lunch.

[B]

That's a grizzly. That's a big old monster, man.

[A]

Nature. You scary.

[B]

Nature is scary.

[A]

Matt's not. And I'm not searching for this weird stuff.

[D]

Bears.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So you can't send it to me. I can't post it on here.

[D]

It's Instagram. So we were watching this slack.

[A]

I. I can't.

[D]

What were you saying, George?

[C]

We were watching this bear documentary, like, you know, and it was like. Like the bear, like, with the British accent, whatever it is. Richard Attenborough. Yeah, Amazing. So we're watching this thing, and then he's talking about the brown bear. Vicious terrestrial creature, whatever. Now, all bears are technically brown, but there's a black bear, and that's what we have in the Pocono Mountains. So two days after that, Matt goes out the door to toss garbage, and there's this big black bear. He literally screams, like, drops to the floor and plays dead. And then I'm like, who are you playing dead for?

[B]

The.

[C]

The bear saw you, and he beine. He's like, no, it was brown. I'm like, no, that's a black bear, but it's brown. I'm like, that is not a grizzly bear.

[D]

You would.

[C]

We would be having this conversation.

[B]

I mess with the bear. I don't care which bear it is. No, no, the one.

[C]

They see us, they run. The moment they spot a human, they just beine away from us.

[A]

Polar bears. Did you see the video?

[B]

They'll. They'll hunt you down.

[C]

They'll hunt you down.

[D]

There's a guy.

[A]

Yeah. Humans are prey to polar bears. This.

[D]

This dude was, like, showing a. A journalist the polar bear. And they were like 600ft away from. And the bear saw him, and it started to walk towards him. He's like, what do we do? What do we do? And the guy's like, we step towards it. If you back up, it'll come at you. So they would, like. He'd keep walking, just moving at the polar bear. And then the polar bear started to kind of flank around. So he kept moving, moving and, like, kind of corralling the bear. And eventually the bear turned and walked away.

[C]

Did you see.

[A]

What is it? Pull it up.

[C]

There's a funny. There's a funny story on a bear. You see polar bear. There's this albino black bear that has been found in the Pocono Mountains and shipped to Alaska three times.

[B]

Oh, that poor guy's gonna get jacked.

[D]

Racism.

[C]

Scientists find him like, this is not a polar bear. They bring him back stateside. This poor thing's been deported to Alaska.

[B]

What's going on?

[A]

Look at this AI stuff. Okay?

[B]

It's incredible.

[A]

Watch.

[B]

I mean, that's insane.

[A]

No, like, the problem is this is just AI trash that people are trying to post to get content.

[D]

Animals are some of the easiest stuff to AI too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's no reality.

[C]

This is the beginning.

[B]

I know it's going to get fright.

[C]

Dude, are they running for. Oh, is the polar bear running from wolves? Come on. That's not even realistic.

[A]

Polar bear wouldn't run from wolves eating them.

[B]

Yeah, he just terribles would know better

[C]

not to chase a polar bear. Why is that guy on a train?

[A]

Did you watch the video where the guy in the snowmobile was being chased by a polar bear?

[D]

Oh, I just saw that.

[A]

Yeah. Was hunting him.

[C]

That is literally chasing a cyclist mountain biking somewhere in California. Dudes, I think I saw that too. You saw that video?

[A]

Grizzly?

[C]

No, is a cougar. A cougar chasing the dude on the bike and mountains.

[A]

I'm like, just get a gun.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Get a gun.

[D]

Magic, cuz. Did you see magic, Stanley? Superhumans. The guy that. You may want to pull this one up. This will be easy to find on YouTube. He walks into the. The buffalo corral with all the buffalo, I think it is, or. Or bulls. And he starts waving his hand and they all start laying down one by one and the owner is like, I've

[B]

never seen anything like Crocodile Dundee.

[D]

Yeah, he's used that chi. He's like this Chinese chi qigong master and he can put animals to sleep.

[B]

I'm not going to try it.

[D]

I think I might be putting animals to sleep right now with that story.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Wait, you see this one?

[B]

This the guy? This is the guy, right?

[A]

You guys see this one?

[D]

No.

[B]

Making the noise, coming at it. What the hell is that a drone

[A]

flyer or a drone by AI Yeah, that looks fake.

[C]

That looks very.

[A]

But what I had heard was. And it's probably AI I think it's fake. I had heard a story and it may. Maybe that's what they're doing with making these AI videos where a drone caught a guy running from a bear and the next day they found the guy dead.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Oh,

[C]

man, I wish I could find that video. I was bringing up.

[B]

It's so difficult to know what is real and what isn't.

[C]

When it comes to animals. I've. I've. It's become very frustrating. Frustrating.

[D]

It's very popular. Like feel good animal videos are very popular algorithmically.

[B]

Sure, sure. Feel good is great. A puppy and seeing something, you know, that kind of thing makes you feel great.

[C]

What is going on there was like

[D]

the science of psychology is they'll show you a really sad thing, then they'll

[B]

show you and they'll bring in the.

[D]

The sweet thing and then they'll try and sell you something.

[B]

Yeah. That makes sense to be like your

[D]

three things in a row.

[B]

I've seen that and I believe it. And I think I've fallen victim to it before. Before too.

[C]

That's why stuff online too that people

[B]

push well, I mean you see the guy, you know, getting chased by the cougar, right. And on the bike. And then the next thing you see is the, you know, you got the chest rig for your. For your night. I'm like, yeah, I think I could use that. Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

I just got sucked into buying a retinoid earlier watching the skin. Skin care thing.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

I was like, great.

[B]

They'll get you.

[C]

They get you. It's so good. And I asked after I completed the purchase. Purchase. I'm like, why did I just buy this? I just spent $79. I don't even know what it is. It's Korean stuff. Whatever.

[D]

Do you guys ever use infrared treatment?

[C]

You should see. Did you ever see what this chick. Can you put the girl with the inf.

[B]

I have an infrared song. After boxing we chasing Bur. It's great. It's phenomenal.

[C]

I think you'll find that phenomenal on X probably.

[A]

Or.

[C]

Or Instagram. It's hilarious. Cuz that's the same mask I have.

[D]

Apparently heals eyesight too. The infrared.

[C]

It's funny. I do it every night.

[A]

The problem is it's all Instagram and

[D]

we can't pull saying it was healing his eyes.

[B]

We have an infrared sauna in the house and we go in there at 140 degrees or whatever it is. After we. After we finish our. Our boxing, my son and I. And then we'll go in there and sit in there for 20 minutes.

[D]

20. Do you ever. Because I went in there for 45 one night and I felt cooked up my dermis.

[C]

You're crazy. 20 minutes max.

[B]

Anything.

[D]

Steam sauna. I can handle an hour if I go in shower back in, shower back in. And like.

[C]

Yeah, no but infrared, you'll cook from the inside out. Steve will do it. You know, you know who he is, right? Steve will do it. No, no. Big gambler, YouTuber. Very funny guy. You know, he is right.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[C]

People do it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

He's obsessed with infrared, right? So he, he, he's in the infrared a couple of minutes every morning and is Miami apartment. So it's like he, he's like. I think I just cooked from the inside a little bit today. Cuz he, he slept in it once by mistake.

[D]

Oh my God.

[B]

It has an hour timer. At least mine does.

[C]

Dangerous.

[B]

It turns off after an hour.

[C]

So dangerous.

[D]

Okay, I'm gonna stop hating on it. Because it's really a tool to be used properly. Like I, I misused it.

[C]

That's why I misused it. Absolutely.

[B]

You don't want to any tool you can misuse.

[C]

There's issues company called Thera. Thera works, Daragon, whatever. You know, really good, great massage things. Yeah, like great, great. You know, chiropractic type stuff. They, they make a mask. The mask is solid. I use it every day.

[D]

Is it a massage mask?

[C]

No, no, no. It's a infrared mask. They have a massage mask too, which I, I, I, I love that product. All their products. But their infrared mask is so good. Dude. You, every night before bed, 15 minutes, you put it on and you know you're like, you're doom scrolling before you fall off. I mean, dude, it's funny. My dog, dogs like sometimes I'm like midway, I'm like, I gotta go take a lake. I got off.

[D]

My dogs are like, they lose it.

[C]

It's like an alien walking around in the house.

[D]

I'm gonna look that up.

[C]

Dude, so, so good. It's, it's good money.

[D]

It's like I have a bed sheet. It, it, it surrounds my bed. It's nano silver threading. And then you plug it in, but you only, it only has a ground. It doesn't have the two prongs. It's just got the ground. So it, it sucks energy out of the bed. It takes near infrared out of the bed and discharges it into the grid. So when you lay on it, it's like if you ever like for me, if you drink something too cold and you feel like sensitive tooth. It feels like that like in your whole body. Like your body's just being sucked out of like being dra.

[C]

Text me that. That sounds so interesting.

[D]

Awesome, dude.

[C]

You know, I love this stuff.

[B]

We're, we're, we're on the verge. All this AI stuff is terrifying. We're on the verge medically of all kinds of incredible.

[C]

I want to live forever. Yeah, yeah. I think they, I don't want to die.

[B]

Somebody was saying like if you make it for the next five years, you're going to live to 1:25 or something. Like, I mean I hear all that sort of stuff all the time. There's a lot of technology, a lot of things going on.

[C]

I mean they've just, in, I think it was Japan, they just developed technology to grow teeth. Oh wow, there goes veneers.

[B]

Yeah. Players will be happy to hear that

[C]

they just developed technology to make your dog's lifespan double, which is great because we're, I'm, I, I just had to put down my 12 year old golden retriever. She had cancer. So it was very frustrating for me and my best friend and like dogs don't live long enough.

[B]

No, it's a heartbreak. That's what you know when every time you get a dog you're like, this is, this is. See you go and it's.

[C]

I hate it. It's, it's, it's so, so they've developed something in, in Japan that's now gone out of trial and there's, I guess their test subject is already 20 years old. So this is a, it's a long time in development. Their dog and it has, has all the markers of like a four year old dog.

[D]

Oh, good.

[C]

So I'm like very, very interested in this like human par paralysis with these. Brazil. Yeah, there was a scientist in Brazil that, that also just managed to, to get a quadriplegic back on his feet.

[D]

So they could regrow spinal cords, repair deafness. I think they can. Or override the deafness with neuralink blindness too. I mean this is like Bible level. Healing the sick, the blind and all this. I want to live forever too, but I just want to live until I want to stop if I, if I want. You know, you, one day you might be like, I think I'm done now.

[C]

Why stop?

[D]

Well, maybe in 50 years I'll be like, okay, I guess I could stop. Maybe I want to go until I

[C]

want to imagine the wealth of information. You'd be the, the, the amazingness that life could be if you don't have an expiration date. I mean.

[B]

Well, that's AI though I was already saying AI will search every database known to mankind. You know, I'm remember I grew up with encyclopedias. When I go through the encyclopedia, look

[C]

for the information, you still know how to search an encyclopedia. Let's be honest. Do you know how to look into it?

[B]

Well, that's what I did forever. That's how I grew up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So. But I haven't seen an encyclopedia in decades.

[D]

I just looked at one, like five days or two, three weeks ago. It was disturbing. Encyclopedia Britannica.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Owned, like, that's the funnel of how you learned.

[C]

Yes, but Britannica was the most comprehensive encyclopedia there was out there. Like, now you're talking about, like a legit scholar, scholarly encyclopedia imprint. We're talking about, like, the rando encyclopedia that we would use in public school in the United States. Like this big book that would come out every year by Scholastics.

[D]

Is that with, like, all the planets in it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's just like the Britannic Encyclopedia is just like, very scholarly.

[D]

Like, what do you do? Table of contents. Is that the search?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You search by letter?

[C]

Yeah, by letter. And table of content. God. Sentence.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then the glass wagnols when I was a kid. And Britannicas.

[C]

Britannicas are just like, when I was

[A]

little kid, I had a bunch of encyclopedias. It's pretty wild to think, dude, encyclopedia

[B]

salesman, just general knowledge.

[C]

Do you remember the encyclopedia salesman that would come knocking every year?

[A]

Imagine how much fake news was in those things.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I mean, and you couldn't check it.

[C]

Yeah, you couldn't.

[D]

It was Britain even. Britain is even in the title. The British Empire.

[A]

Oh, you know what? You know what? Young people are not going to understand being at, like, 1992. And your friend is like, hey, what year was the Great Depression? And then your friend goes, I don't know. You want to go to the library and figure it out? Not really. And then, you know, 10 years later, it's like, what year was a Great Depression? Oh, one second. Oh, this was early 19. Was it 1928 or something?

[D]

Black Friday? Yeah, it used to be. Let's go check out the Dewey decimal system in the card catalog. Maybe I could borrow a book on it or read it while I'm crazy.

[C]

It's crazy how it's changed because I guess it's. Not too long ago, I still relied on library. A library card. I needed it. I mean.

[A]

Well, you do if you want to use the Internet of library.

[C]

Well, no, no, no. I'm just saying, not too long ago, I said, I mean, dude, I'm seven.

[A]

You know what?

[C]

When I was 17, the Internet is not what it was. It was not what it is today. It was already a thing but it was not as comprehensive.

[A]

Libraries today are like Blockbuster Videos.

[B]

Yeah, go.

[A]

Going to be gone. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, when you go to a library, they have a movie selection and you go and rent a movie for free. Like, honestly, I went to the library in Winchester in Virginia.

[C]

I'd love.

[B]

That's where. That's where I'm a deputy sheriff, by the way.

[A]

Oh, right on. That's a great place. There's a. There's a bunch of books, but they have a section of, of DVDs.

[D]

You said Winchester? You're a deputy sheriff of Winchester?

[B]

Well, yeah. Frederick County.

[D]

That's awesome, dude. Oh, cool. Yeah. Stop by when you're in town, bro.

[B]

Come together, we'll do it. We'll do a no knock warning.

[D]

How did you become deputized as a sheriff?

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Oh, well, we don't. We don't live in Frederick.

[B]

Frederick county, so. So no.

[D]

What led to your deputization?

[B]

I. I think police officers are, are phenomenal human beings. I know so many of them. I grew up with a lot of military in my family and. And then when it was the defund the police time, I did the exact opposite.

[C]

You went? I joined the force against the grain.

[B]

I'm an ICE agent too.

[C]

So I, I know that that's.

[B]

I'm against the grain on that too, because these guys are, are amazing. These are amazing heroes and they should be celebrated. Not denigrated, not villainized.

[C]

I remember I've shared so many of your stuff on X because. And, and on Instagram and everything. Every time it would come up because, like, you know, the Hollywood elites were like hammering on you and TMZ and, you know, good old Harvey.

[B]

I love Harvey.

[C]

I love Harvey too.

[B]

But you know, he likes the story.

[C]

He likes juicy story.

[B]

I took a picture from the Great American States Fair from the top of the Ferris wheel, saying, look at this incredible view. And then everybody was like, oh my God, there's nobody there.

[D]

It's awful.

[B]

Terrible. Blah. Was like, look at the incredible view. It's insane. You're not going to get this again. And yes, there's plenty of people at the Great American State Fair. I get cousins around, they're fine, but they, they, they.

[C]

He just sensationalizes everything. Because that's what TMZ is. It's sensational tabloid. And I like Harvey and Harvey's always been really good to me. But I'll say this, his guy in dc, Jacob was Osserman is just making a complete mockery of dc.

[B]

I saw Charlie. Charlie Is there. Charlie's the guy that I talked to last.

[C]

Oh, you talked to Charlie. I. I know Jacob from New York because he's actually from New York. So he's the guy that you'll hear in the videos, like, congressman. What's your take? What do you. That's crazy. I'm like, dude, you sound unhinged.

[B]

But it cracks me up that they're going to D.C. now that they have a D.C. office as opposed to Hollywood folks. I mean, I left Malibu, so I have to. I. Of all that, which is great.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And. And I.

[A]

You.

[B]

They wouldn't be able to follow me home here. But they did. They could back in the day in Malibu.

[C]

I mean, you're lucky. Paris Hilton just left town to Miami.

[B]

Everybody left. Everybody's leaving LA la.

[D]

Oh, no.

[C]

Paris was living in Vegas for the longest.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

Paris. Perez Hilton just left Las Vegas to Miami. So that was the last tab loiter that could catch you down.

[B]

I don't do anything, so there's nothing to catch me doing, you know, But

[C]

I remember when you were. You were so against the grain during the defund the police.

[A]

It was like.

[C]

Few of you guys, like, in. In. In Hollywood. It was like, you James Woods. Oh, my God, why am I blanking on his name void. John Voight, Big black guy who the Grey's Anatomy. I. I know him well.

[B]

Isaiah Washington.

[C]

Isaiah Washington. Like, you guys were like, the minority still are of the minority going against the grain. And then who's a chick who played Sabrina the teenage witch, who also of course, she. Melissa Jones. Hard. I was like, what is going on?

[B]

She lives in Connecticut, though, now. Yeah, I did the film with her. She's wonderful. She's fantastic.

[C]

The fact that she's old enough to be a grandma just makes me wonder, like, I'm getting old.

[B]

I think I could be a great grandfather at this point in time. It's getting scary.

[D]

The greatest.

[A]

Truly.

[C]

Truly.

[D]

What happened with your LA exodus, bro? Like, what did you. What h. You spoke out?

[B]

No, it was. It wasn't about that. It was. It was. I lived in my whole life. I was like, I am this beautiful home, baby, up there. And I was like, that's the greatest place. I'll live here and die here. And. But I was really. My son graduated from a place called High Point University in North Carolina. And he was coming home and he said he decided he was trying to decide whether he's going to go to grad school or not. And he was like, you know, my. I bought my parents a Place here in Vegas 2 1/2 years prior. And he was like, dad, what am I going to do in Malibu? You got to drive an hour and a half to go anywhere, do anything. You keep bitching about all the stuff in California. The taxes, the regulations, the blah, blah. Why are we going to be there? When's the last time you shot a movie in California? And I'm like, well, the last one I shot I wrote, produced, and directed. And it was there in California. Other than that, I'm everywhere else. Sorry. Let's look. Let's. I'm open to the idea. So we came out here and looked, and we found the greatest place ever. The nicest house I've ever lived in and seen, really, to be honest. And we moved here, and life has become much more simple and fantastic.

[D]

Had you experienced drama with your friends from the past when you started speaking out?

[B]

I mean, Sean Penn. Look, I disagree with Sean Penn vehemently on. On politics. But if we were in a bar and people started to beat up on Sean, I would get in the middle of the fray and I would protect Sean in a heartbeat, saying I'd get him out of there.

[C]

Same with Pelosi, like an AOC and all of them. Like, I. I've defended that. My. I defended Pelosi and Paul Pelosi. When the dude with the hammer jumped in the house, that was just insanity, you know? Like, look, I don't know what the.

[B]

What might have been there.

[C]

I don't know. But the fact that there was a hammer and a situation and this dude screaming, I'm gonna get that. You know, I'm like, okay, you know what? First of all, he was a foreigner, which drives me even more insane. But I'm just gonna put it this way.

[A]

He was a Canadian. I know he's a Canadian.

[C]

He's a foreigner. So I'm gonna say this. Look, I can beat up on AOC and Pelosi all day long.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

The moment a foreigner comes and tries to do something to them. Yeah. Then we got a problem, because that.

[A]

That's.

[C]

That's Team America. We fight with. With ourselves. But I will cut you if you come. Come try to f. With one of us. That's just kind of like my MO. But I can call them idiots all day long.

[B]

Yeah. And. And. And again, that. That's fine. But they've gotten to a place where that if you disagree with somebody so tribal in that sense, if you disagree with them, you're. You're not going to get hired. They wish ill upon you, you know, like, even with what's going on with Charlie Kirk's, you know, murder and Charlie, God bless him, I love Charlie to death.

[C]

Charlie was a good man.

[B]

He was phenomenal. And what they've turned they that into.

[C]

Look at his trial.

[B]

Laughing at, laughing at him getting shot and mocking it. That's insane.

[C]

Well, I have to debate somebody tonight who actually did that.

[B]

Who, who laughed and mocked.

[C]

Yeah, Destiny.

[B]

You should win that debate walking away,

[C]

George, if you don't, I, I, I have no losing.

[B]

I'm going to grab a MAA or whatever that is. What's the Mac Deer? We're coming to your house.

[A]

You got to understand the thing about these online debaters. Pe people like Destiny and others, they're not actually debating, debating anything.

[C]

You're not.

[A]

So what'll happen is he'll easily change the subject to make it sound like he's winning a debate. And so that's why I'm largely interested in the blood sports stuff. And like I was saying earlier in

[C]

the show, this is the first time I'm doing this, by the way.

[A]

I just, just watch out for him changing the subject.

[C]

I can change the subject too. I'm the king of pivoting and stuff.

[A]

He also, he also does, like, reframing.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, a lot. I know I've interacted with Destiny before. He's been on my podcast in the

[A]

past, so you could, you could say something like, you know, he'd argue.

[C]

He.

[A]

Mountain Bailey's a lot. Make a, make a vague general statement and then when someone challenges them on it, he can alter the premise because his statement initially was vague enough.

[C]

Vague enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he won't, he won't in quadrant himself in anything specific. It's all platitudes and, and super superficial. So, so unfortunately, you know, you gotta go into this with the mindset of. But they sent me their topics, I send them mine and I, and I'm looking forward to really like talking about coronations in the Democratic Party if this is now the second election.

[B]

Platner.

[C]

Platner is. But it look on the preface of, of it, he's a scumbag, but Democratically Speaking, he got 145,000 voters with a

[A]

Nazi with a totem comp.

[C]

And by the way, with rape allegations with the Porter party.

[D]

Allegations.

[B]

Allegations with the Nazi test allegations all the way.

[C]

Then they were pretty straightforward allegations out there, right? Like that. They, they were tales and tall tales about, like, these things he's done and his own admissions with his discord account I mean, they still chose him.

[B]

Yeah, true. That's a democratic process.

[D]

When you say coronations, you mean, like, he's stepping down now they're going to

[A]

select just like they did.

[D]

I was reading about the way the super delegates work in 2016.

[A]

Sorry, hold on. To stand a subject. This was the point when you're wondering why it is Graham Platner is not being removed and won't step down. It's because they wanted to wait until they could appoint a candidate, and they didn't. They didn't have to rely on the progressive insurgent faction or whatever. They. They said, we are going. Platner was accused of rape, Nazi tattoo. And they said, no, no, no, just wait. Just wait. Because you. If you. If you take him out and do a. Do a primary, you're going to get another weirdo left. Wait till the last minute. We can put whoever we want in. This is true.

[D]

The Democratic Party has delegates. They got like 4,600 delegates. Seven hundred of them are super delegates. And it's like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden.

[C]

That's how they stole it from Bernie.

[D]

So what happened was when Bernie's running, the delegates come in and they love Bernie. People love Bernie. But the super delegates get to decide ahead of time. In round one, these 700 people, like, you know what? It's going to be, Hillary. And the people are like, what the fuck are you? How can you.

[A]

And then.

[D]

So the Democratic Party suspended that rule. No LONGER can these 700 superdelegates get in, get involved ahead of time. That's too risky. But then in 2024, when Biden steps out, they made a special change to their party rules. Their private company, the Democratic. These private companies, they're private companies, by the way. The Democratic Party and the Republican Party, private companies. So they changed their rules and they let the super delegates choose again, and they chose Kamala. So I don't know if it works with Platner at the state level.

[C]

I think same concept.

[D]

There are super delegates.

[C]

The delegate, it's not super because they're state, but the delegates are going to choose.

[D]

The Republican Party has the same function if the Republican candidates, but there's 174

[C]

of them, get to decide, and that's it. And that's the entire committee, which is

[D]

a very small committee.

[A]

So there's two.

[C]

It's a man and a woman per

[D]

state, which you might argue is even worse because it's even less people involved.

[C]

But it's like a cabal.

[D]

Either way, there's small groups of people that can decide who the candidate's going to be in both parties.

[A]

That's the reality of life. No matter what. When, you know, with all the news we talked about yesterday and the conferences I had today about like this, the Charlie Kirk stuff, and to simplify it for those that were not here yesterday, people really expose themselves. I would say that the amount of people that are nasty, you know what I would say the amount of people that are chickens, and I don't mean chicken, is cowardly. I mean just mindless and self interested. They are low order thinkers. It's more than you realize. And you take a look at those who have gone self serving following the death of Charlie Kirk, trying to knowingly pushing stupid. Candace Owens lies, obviously, but there's other people, people too that.

[C]

She's lost her mind.

[A]

No, she's just targeting dumb people who are going to make her money. You realize how many people never had integrity in the first place. And so what do you, what do you end up with? I am not surprised. Democrats treat the American people like cattle. You know, and I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying when, when you get knifed in the back by evil people so many times, eventually you're going to get a cabal of wealthy people that Bingle, listen, most people lack integrity. I'm sorry, maybe it's not true, but most people, when given the opportunity, are going to dive for the bag of money and not the baby falling in the river. So why don't we just control things, lock it down and tell them how to live their lives? That's their worldview. And I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying that's the worldview they have.

[C]

I think it tracks too.

[D]

The Romans were direct. They called them plebes. They were like, those are the plebes, probably the people that didn't have nutrition. And that was the majority. Now they call them citizens and everybody's

[A]

equal under the law. Come on. We should do some social experiments. But we are at a time, so everybody please smash the like button. Share the show. It's been a fun Friday. Wrapping up, wrapping up the week. I have to work tomorrow. I have a lot of work I have to do. So we'll cut it here. Follow me on Accident Instagram, Timcast. Dean, you want to shout anything out?

[B]

No, I mean, I guess my podcast, which is out there, which is called the Homeland on Proud American Studio Videos we've got, I guess in the first three weeks we had about 30 million views which is great. I don't, I don't know how all those little things work, but it's done very well. But I've been able to interview, you know, the secretary of Secretary Kennedy, Attorney General Blanche. And I've got some really great folks in there. I know a lot of these guys.

[C]

Blanche is great.

[B]

Blanche is fantastic.

[C]

Sharp dude. Love him.

[B]

Fantastic. Absolutely great, great guy. Secretary Hexeth, good friend of mine. And, and I love what he's doing. So I've had a lot of wonderful people on, on, on already and have a whole bunch more going this week, next week. Rather cool.

[C]

You know what, follow me on socials. I have a few projects in the pipe that can't promote right now. So for now it's just like, you know, enjoy the shit. Posting.

[D]

Yeah. Follow me at Ian Crossland, I think my, our Graphene, the Graphene movie. I just built a synopsis, a, what would you call it, an outline for the movie last night with Kevin six seven Kevin, the producer. So that's going to come out. The website's down right now, so. But eventually you'll go to Graphene Movie Movie and join and follow me. Ian Crossland, Carter Banks.

[C]

Dude, it's been so great having y' all here. It's been a great week. Dean, thanks for coming out. George, pleasure as always.

[A]

Always a pleasure to see you.

[C]

You guys can follow me at Carter Banks on X. Carter Banks official on Instagram and of course the label is Trash house Records on YouTube. Tim, let's go.

[A]

We will see you all. I believe we got clips throughout the weekend. We're back on Monday, back to the grind, back in the home studio, getting out of here from Las Vegas. But I do appreciate you guys sticking around for the week, hanging out with the crew. While I was schmoozing and working on back. I keep saying back room deals, which sounds nefarious, but I mean like behind the scenes deals and sponsorships and things like that. So it's the work that's got to get done. Thank you all so much for hanging out and we'll see you next time.