Nick Shirley Uncensored: Liberals Wish FOr Death On James Woods In LA Fire, They Are Evil

Summary

Timcast IRL – Episode: "Nick Shirley Uncensored: Liberals Wish For Death On James Woods In LA Fire, They Are Evil"

Release Date: January 12, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Ian Crossland, Ethan Ralph, Seamus Coughlin, Angela Belcamino
Description: In this episode, Tim Pool and his panel delve into heated discussions surrounding recent events, including violent rhetoric from liberal commentators, political accountability, and the ongoing fires in Los Angeles. The conversation is marked by passionate exchanges, unfiltered opinions, and critical analysis of current socio-political dynamics.

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1. Viral Incident and Initial Reactions ([00:01] - [02:17])

The episode opens with the panel reacting to a disturbing video shared by Tim Pool. The video depicts two drunk teenagers sliding off a glass roof, resulting in severe injuries or potential fatalities. The group watches in horror as one teenager's pelvis shatters and another remains unconscious, emphasizing the dangers of reckless behavior.

Notable Quote:

• Seamus Coughlin ([01:33]): "Gross."
• Tim Pool ([02:17]): "So this mall right here, this. I stayed at this hotel. I actually stayed independent."

This segment sets a somber tone, highlighting irresponsible actions and their dire consequences.

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2. Criticism of Keith Olbermann’s Remarks ([02:17] - [06:35])

The discussion shifts to Keith Olbermann's controversial statement suggesting that James Woods deserved his house to be burned down due to his support for Trump. The panel vehemently condemns Olbermann's remarks, arguing that such rhetoric dehumanizes individuals and fuels violent sentiments.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Pool ([03:02]): "Angela Bel Cammino says, 'I'm not a big fan of James Woods at all, but being happy his house burned down isn't the answer to be better.'"
• Seamus Coughlin ([03:32]): "He's an absolute piece of shit. Like, he wishes all kinds of bad things on people just for disagreeing with him..."
• Tim Pool ([05:03]): "There are innocent elderly people who are... five people are dead and they're saying it's karma calling. What they're telling you is the death of the innocent is fine so long as their enemies suffer."

The panel underscores the danger of advocating violence against opponents, linking Olbermann's attitude to broader issues of government overreach and intolerance.

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3. Political Accountability and Historical Context ([06:35] - [21:59])

The conversation broadens to examine political accountability, drawing parallels with historical events such as Watergate and recent actions by political figures like Joe Biden. The panel criticizes the lack of consequences for presidents who mishandle significant events, arguing that current leadership fails to uphold accountability standards.

Notable Quotes:

• Seamus Coughlin ([18:44]): "Joe Biden was never held accountable for what happened in... the pullout. There's..."
• Tim Pool ([20:38]): "Most Americans don't even know what a censure is."
• Seamus Coughlin ([19:17]): "Joe Biden was never held accountable for what happened in... the pullout."

The discussion emphasizes the need for stronger accountability mechanisms within the government to prevent future mismanagement and corruption.

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4. Caller Segment: Accountability for Fire Management ([17:39] - [22:02])

During the caller segment, Simon from Germania raises concerns about the handling of wildfires, questioning whether county and state leadership should face federal consequences for their failures in managing the fires.

Notable Quotes:

• Harold ([17:43]): "Do you think that the county leadership and state leadership should face federal costs for their absolute failure?"
• Tim Pool ([18:18]): "I think they should be investigated for misappropriation of funds, dereliction of duty, etc. We can't allow this anymore, man."

The panel concurs, advocating for investigations and accountability to prevent future disaster mismanagement.

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5. Ongoing Los Angeles Fires and Community Impact ([24:35] - [35:47])

The conversation returns to the immediate crisis of the wildfires engulfing Los Angeles. The panel discusses the severity of the fires, the role of strong winds and lack of resources in exacerbating the situation, and the broader implications for the community. Tim Pool shares personal concerns, mentioning friends trapped in affected areas and the need for support.

Notable Quotes:

• Seamus Coughlin ([27:32]): "If there's fuel, like, it'd be great. The winds are really strong and they don't have the ability to put anything out."
• Tim Pool ([26:38]): "I'm reaching out, being what a good friend should do."

The discussion highlights the dire need for external assistance and community support to manage and mitigate the ongoing fires.

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6. Caller Segment: Woke Right and Political Branding ([35:43] - [52:20])

Ethan Ralph introduces a contentious topic involving allegations against Sam Altman's sister and critiques of the MeToo movement. The panel debates the validity of such accusations, expressing skepticism towards the motives behind them and the broader implications for societal accountability.

Notable Quotes:

• Seamus Coughlin ([37:23]): "Joe Biden was never held accountable for what happened in... the pullout."
• Tim Pool ([43:50]): "Woke does not have anything to do with ideology because what we define as woke has an amorphous ideology."
• Ethan Ralph ([41:28]): "It's essentially a group of sometimes connected but mostly disconnected factions that are not necessarily within the conservative movement..."
• Tim Pool ([45:09]): "Woke is cult, like adherence to liberal social orthodoxy."

The panel critically examines the concept of the "woke right," arguing that it is a meaningless term used to smear various conservative factions without coherent definition or shared ideology.

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7. Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up ([52:20] - [53:45])

As the episode nears its conclusion, the panel reflects on the discussions, reiterating their stance against violent rhetoric and the conflation of disparate political groups under vague labels like "woke right." They emphasize the importance of clear definitions and genuine accountability in political discourse.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Pool ([52:20]): "The right, right now, the Trump alliance, whatever you want to call it, is a spattering of disparate ideologies..."
• Seamus Coughlin ([53:33]): "Good time in Greenland."
• Tim Pool ([53:43]): "We will be back tomorrow. Don't forget YouTube.com timcast the essays are back. It's up. It's about censorship and fact checkers."

The episode concludes with acknowledgments to callers and a tease for future content, maintaining the show's commitment to unfiltered and honest discussions on pressing political and cultural issues.

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Conclusion:

This episode of Timcast IRL provides an unvarnished look into the frustrations and challenges faced by individuals critical of current liberal rhetoric and political accountability. Through animated discussions and direct caller interactions, Tim Pool and his panel dissect the complexities of political smear tactics, the erosion of accountability in leadership, and the tangible impacts of environmental crises like the Los Angeles fires. The episode underscores a call for clear definitions, genuine discourse, and robust accountability mechanisms to navigate the polarized socio-political landscape.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday, uncensored. Every week, we produce four uncensored episodes of the Timcast IRL podcast, [e-mail] and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a [e-mail] now. Enjoy the show. Before we get into the meat potatoes here, I'm going to play this video for you. So this is from the Daily Mail. Horrific moment. Two drunk teenagers slide off of glass roof. And. So this is Kiev right here. This is my Dan Square. And this is a mall. I have been here many times. You're not going to like it. Oh, it couldn't be loaded.

[Ian Crossland]

Thank God.

[Tim Pool]

No, we'll get it. We'll get it. Oh, the server failed. The format. What is this?

[Ethan Ralph]

Me see it.

[Tim Pool]

Look at that. They won't let us do it. All right, let's do this. Where's the. We'll pull this one up. I'm going to get that video for you. Don't worry. They. They.

[Ian Crossland]

You. You.

[Tim Pool]

You hear their ass explode. Damn, dude.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Gross.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, not in the way you hoped it would be. Gross.

[Tim Pool]

There you go. Teenagers slide down glass wall. Wait, wait, Gosh. Wait, wait. Bro, dude, I got to zoom in.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh.

[Ian Crossland]

Is he able to stand? He can't get up.

[Tim Pool]

Nope. Another guy shattered his pelvis.

[Angela Belcamino]

I shattered his.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What the.

[Tim Pool]

Did you hear that explosion?

[Angela Belcamino]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ian Crossland]

The other guy's, like, unconscious.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Oh, he. I think he. Yeah, I don't know if he died. Look at his ass.

[Ian Crossland]

Damn, dude.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, my God.

[Angela Belcamino]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, look at all the blood. What the. Wow, dude, he looks paralyzed.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Stupid moves.

[Angela Belcamino]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tim Pool]

So this mall right here, this. I stayed at this hotel. I actually stayed independent.

[Angela Belcamino]

Square or.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, my den. You've been there, obviously. Yeah, that's where all the protests were. So this is the hotel I stayed at. The mall's right there. That's where the beginning of the whole went down. All right. Idiot.

[Ian Crossland]

I watch these videos of dudes, like, parkouring, and they'll, like, run and jump across a building to another building and, like, swing through a hole and land. And they're like.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

And, like, I think about all the.

[Tim Pool]

Times they up the guy in the bottom, hit his head.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, my God. Anyway, I promised I'd show you the uncensored on the members only, but here's. Here's the Olbermann story. Keith Olberman suggests James woods deserved to have his house burned down for Trump Support. He's such a. I'm. Dude, I'm not playing games. Like, there's no right wing person who was coming out and being like, yay, all the Hollywood people are burning to death.

[Ian Crossland]

Keith is, in my opinion, unnecessarily acidic. I don't know why. He didn't used to be like this in 2006. Just verbal.

[Tim Pool]

Angela Bel Camino says, I'm not a big fan of James woods at all, but being happy his house burned down isn't the answer be better. Oberman said. Is this actually Oberman? Because that, you know, people always run fake.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, that's him.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. He says this is the attitude that lost the election. They will not compromise. They will not convert. They will not be human. They must be defeated. This guy. Look, dude, that's why I just don't care anymore. Like, if Keith Oberman went, got. Got Merc. Like, if. If he got arrested for some. I ain't defending him. Don't give a. It's like this guy wants you to die. Yep.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He's an absolute piece of. Like, he wishes all kinds of bad things on people just for disagreeing with him, having a different perspective. He's totally bought into the, oh, all people that disagree with me are evil. All Republicans, conservatives, they're all evil. Blah, blah, blah. Like, while he's saying the most evil shit imaginable, he's garbage.

[Ian Crossland]

I have, like, an ethical dilemma here because I hate the stuff that he does. That's like pure, pure vile disgust for some of this shit that he says. But I still don't want harm to come on the guy. And I don't want rules.

[Tim Pool]

I'm not saying I do. I'm saying if, like, a roving band of, you know, miscreants are beating the shit out of him, I would not come to his aid.

[Ian Crossland]

What if the government was violating laws.

[Tim Pool]

To screw with them, I would not come to his aid.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What am I.

[Ian Crossland]

Because it's a precedent. They're setting a precedent. They're like, we're just going to go after the guy you don't like first, and then if you don't do anything about it, then we're going to go after the people.

[Tim Pool]

So they say. But. But as I've been pointing out, everyone likes to talk about that poem of first, they came for the trade unionists and they came for the communists, and then. Yeah, but the slippery slope goes in every fucking direction. So if you let people like Keith Olbermann, if you allow him his space, he is. He is at the precipice of engaging in violence himself, advocating for people to die. He's celebrating that James Wood's home is being burned down and that his. Listen, what Keith Olbermann is saying is that the innocent elderly people who live next door to Keith Olbermann should fucking suffer because. I'm sorry. Who live next to James Woods. They should suffer because James was a bad person.

[Ian Crossland]

Can you show the original tweet? I don't. I haven't seen that one yet.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean?

[Ian Crossland]

I just saw Angela's response. I don't think I saw Keith's original.

[Tim Pool]

This is it post. Oh, hold on. I'm. As he said, this is the attitude that lost the election. They will not compromise. They will not convert. They will not be human. They must be defeated. And any chance to bruise or batter them psychologically must be exploited.

[Ian Crossland]

And it's like, who are they?

[Tim Pool]

Who's even fucking talking about people that he disagrees with?

[Seamus Coughlin]

He'll talk about conservatives or Republicans. He's. They're absolute piece of shit.

[Tim Pool]

There are innocent elderly people who are. Five people are dead and they're saying it's karma calling. What they're telling you is the death of the innocent is fine so long as their enemies suffer. That is the fucking derangement of these lunatics. This is why the far left burns shit down and they get away with it. People like Keith Olbermann. If Donald Trump send in the police to beat the shit out of Keith Olman, I would not speak a word of his defense. And if you came to me and said, but then they'll come for you, Tim, I'll be like, yeah, well, Keith Olbermann already is okay. The far left burned down Minneapolis and waged the largest riots his country's ever seen. The slippery slope goes in two directions. 36 people died or depends on your number. But between 24 and 36 people died in those riots and not a fucking word out of people like Keith Olbermann. So he's not. They. They. They raise money for the defense of these people. Aaron Danielson took two bullets to the chest and the Chaz Chop far left has murdered people. And he is cheering for the death of innocent people because it causes psychological harm to people who support politics he doesn't like.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He is lucky that the people that he hates are not actually of the character that he believes they are.

[Ian Crossland]

That's for sure.

[Tim Pool]

As. As Orin McIntyre said, Lord, give me the Trump that exists in the mind of liberals.

[Ian Crossland]

There's this guy during, before the French Revolution, fired Off there is this writer. He was a huge, very influential. He wrote for like this, this magazine. And he was super inflammatory, hateful, loud, obnoxious, and he had this skin disease. You guys might know who I'm talking about. He would. Had to spend his time in the bathtub.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Name.

[Tim Pool]

God, what was that guy's name?

[Ian Crossland]

I want to ask the AI to tell me.

[Tim Pool]

Oh yeah, we talked about him and some guy let me eventually.

[Ian Crossland]

And eventually a girl got fed up. She was like, what he is saying is too dangerous. And she walked into his house and shot him and killed him. And that really sparked the fucking crazy shit. So like Olbermann being this loudmouth, hateful, angry.

[Tim Pool]

Jean Paul Marat.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, yeah, it was that guy of Marat. The death of Marat.

[Tim Pool]

It was like assassinated while in his bathtub by Charlotte Corday.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. And she thought she was doing the world of service, but she just sparked the fucking, the, the hate even worse. So, like, I don't, I don't support what Keith is doing. I certainly think he has a right to do it and should be protected under the First Amendment and United States government and law and authority to do this kind of thing, as horrific as it is, because I don't want to see another rot.

[Tim Pool]

I appreciate a free speech. I'm just saying, like, I am done defending the liberty of people trying to take mine away. Yep, it is, it is. Like, hey, look, that guy is burning the Constitution. Better go defend him. Like, what? Fuck no. A guy burned in the concert was being punched in the face by cops. Good.

[Angela Belcamino]

Like, why can't they just have some sort of empathy? And especially in a situation like this where the guy just lost his entire home. Or like, why do you wish death upon anybody mentally ill?

[Tim Pool]

There's Ellis. It's a cult.

[Ian Crossland]

I would love to get Olbermann in.

[Angela Belcamino]

Like, isn't it strange that we have to worry about, like, getting death threats? Like, I'm sure you get them.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, endlessly.

[Angela Belcamino]

I have a very, like, it's literally just a thing on the Internet.

[Tim Pool]

Or I have a very liberal friend who post endless liberal leftist stuff. And I haven't talked to them in like three or four years. And they live in Hollywood and I'm, I'm, I'm hoping they're going to be okay. They aren't calling for death or violence. They don't do the stupid shit Keith Olbermann does. And if anyone tried laying a hand on them, I would speak out and I would physically, I would stand in the way of the truncheon if Someone tried to beat my friend. Even if they are liberal. Keith Olbermann is a violent, disgusting scumbag who is wishing death on innocent people because he hates James Woods. These people. Yep.

[Angela Belcamino]

Yeah, I, I, I don't agree with, like, how people can treat people like that in any circumstance. Like, I mean, I'm sure all of us have had it where we have lifelong friends that for some reason get so upset that we supported Donald Trump and they don't talk to you anymore, bro.

[Tim Pool]

I got to tell you, like, you.

[Angela Belcamino]

Guys are posting photos of Kamala Harris or whatnot, and we're still friends, but we post one thing about Trump and we're exiled from our friendship.

[Tim Pool]

What?

[Angela Belcamino]

How does that even make sense?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I have had people that have, that are just, that were friends that have said some of the most egregious jokes, remarks, some of the most atrocious things you can imagine, come at me because I used a swear word and they in public and denounce me and say that I'm all this, and I'm, I'm this bad person, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. People are immensely hypocritical. And they are, they are only as friendly as, as I think that, that, as they have the capacity to be. And I think that when, when they get the opportunity to use you as a means to make themselves look better, especially when it comes to, like the way that the, the cat, the cancel culture went and woke went, they get that righteous feeling that they're the good ones because they're calling out someone that's doing the bad thing. And, and, and you would be shocked at how many people will indulge in that psychological treat. And I forget who it was, but they, they said that there is no, no, no psychological treat more indulgent than being able to be absolutely horrible to someone and have, and believe that you have the moral high ground, that you're doing the right thing, which is part partially what motivates like jihadis. Right? They can be depraved and murderous and believe that they have the high ground because they're doing what God says they should be doing. And it's the same thing. If you're like any other kind of ideologue, you believe that you're the one that's in the position of moral high ground. And the person that you're attacking is so beneath that it's acceptable to say and do anything. And that's exactly what Keith Olbermann is doing.

[Ian Crossland]

Is that what that's called Zealotry is.

[Tim Pool]

Like cult, like fervor it's all when you're blinded by ideology.

[Angela Belcamino]

I'm thankful that I feel like we are moving more away from that since Trump did win and by how much he won, by people are realizing like, so we should always so thankful he won the popular vote.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Angela Belcamino]

That way you cannot say, well, actually more than half the country agrees with me. Unless people agree with you. And they're realizing, like, they don't have. They're losing that moral high ground that you're talking about.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. I mean, it's going to take some time for it to kind of trickle down and kind of make its way through the population because, I mean, still there's going to be people that are going to, that are, you know, committed to the belief. So you're going to get your joy reads and your people at MSNBC and they're going to speak with a unified voice. CNN has brought on people with a dissenting voice, but those people are always drowned out and browbeaten by the people that have the corrected the, you know, the politically correct opinion. But you are seeing more influence by people outside of the mainstream, the, the legacy media or whatever you want to call it. And, and that's a good thing. And I, I mean, I was just doing an interview today with Revolver magazine and, and me and Sammy were talking. She's been a great, great reporter for Revolver and we were talking about this kind of stuff and she actually asked the same question. She was like, do you think that it's going away? And I was like, it's not gonna go away like a light switch. It's gonna take a while. Because it took a while to, to kind of build up. If you look back, like woke kind of started to like, rear its head.

[Tim Pool]

Around 201213 LexisNexis shows around 2009 is when it started bubbling up, skyrocketing in the hockey stick inventions. And then it entered like, people snapped in about 2013 with Gamergate.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's when people were finally like, shut the fuck up. And then they went, you're racist. And they had control of the institutions already. And so they acted like Gamergate was a harassment campaign when it was really people being like, shut the fuck up, dude. And then it took 10 years, but we crushed the fuck out of them. And good.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, thankfully. And so, yes, it's going to take time to, to filter through, but I do think eventually we'll get to some kind of equilibrium.

[Tim Pool]

And you know what? We are all. It's a great feeling to have been screaming this stuff for A decade. And now to be in this position where Trump won the popular vote and we're just like we told you. Yeah. We were right the whole time.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. Be humble. Try and make something great. Make it just so epic that no one can deny that it was epic. That's the way. Because if you gloat everyone, then it'll just come back. The pendulum will swing back, and then they'll be in power eventually, and the.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Gloating will swing back regardless.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. So.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

But do something to the pendulum itself is a good thing, and it's okay.

[Tim Pool]

To share the power. Swinging back means that moderate people will side with the Democrats for some reason. It doesn't mean that most of the people who are watching the show will abandon their principles. When people were like, I used to be a Democrat, now I'm a Republican. Because the Democrats have went insane. If the pendulum swings the other way, it's the same people being like, Republicans started abusing their power and Democrats dropped all the weird woke shit. And, you know, for a lot of people, Donald Trump as a moderate, allowed them to vote Republican for the first time. He wasn't this, like, very far right guy. And so if Democrats in 10 years recoil back and represent something more like Fetterman, you know, I don't trust Fetterman at all. I know the game he's playing. But in 10 years, if people grow up based on that message and they actually are more moderate, the Democrats might actually start winning. Stuff. Some stuff.

[Ian Crossland]

Look, if he's like, look, I will get brain chip. I will be a neural net candidate. I'm sorry, John. I don't. I don't even want to make fun of the way he leaves words out. John, you're getting better. Your brain is healing. But it'd be cool if you integrated the neural net early and became our first cybernetic president.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He. He had. He had this.

[Tim Pool]

You already have one.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, he had this.

[Tim Pool]

There's a woman who uses a text to speech.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh.

[Ian Crossland]

Who?

[Tim Pool]

I forgot. It was a while ago. She was like, I can't talk anymore. So she has a robot talk for her.

[Ian Crossland]

A president of some country?

[Tim Pool]

No, one of our members of Congress.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh. Just Fetterman had, you know, he had a stroke and healing from the stroke also, like, fixed his liberalism or his progressivism. It did, right? It really did. Like, he's. He's, you know, not a woke guy, really. He's not. Not following the crowd. He has. He has his. His opinions that dissent from what the. You know, the Democrats tend to believe and Stuff so good on him.

[Ian Crossland]

Michael Malice was early on, after Fetterman had the stroke was like, john Fetterman's my guy. And I would laugh because I thought he was just like, guy with a stroke, Are you kidding me? The world's burning. I'm going to make it burn harder is what I thought he was doing. And maybe he was, but I think unintentionally kind of manifested this greatness out of this guy. Or maybe he actually saw something in Fetterman that was different. But he ain't your average dude.

[Angela Belcamino]

One thing about nice about Fetterman, though, is that he does, like, make people feel like there is a common ground between Republicans and Democrats. And he's able to see through a lot of the bull crap. And he, like, even openly admitted it. Yeah, I think having. It wasn't. It didn't go Trump then him as on the podcast on Joe Rogan.

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Angela Belcamino]

Was it because then it was funny? Because it was. Yeah. And then I think advanced. I was like, I think Joe Rogan knew.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No, Vance was on before Trump, wasn't he?

[Tim Pool]

But Fetterman's full of shit. His voting record is still in line with all the Democrat bullshit. He's just trying to talk good because.

[Angela Belcamino]

He knows, but he realizes that he's in the wrong.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, it was like a couple weeks later, I think Joe had Trump and then he had like his best friends on to. To kind of support him and be like, look, I'm okay. We're okay. What we did, he had like, Theo Vaughn came on. I think he had like, if you look at that, that three month, three week period, he had a bunch of his best friends on and then he had J.D. vance. But then I think. I think Fetterman was like a month, a month after Trump. I could be wrong. The time, time dilation.

[Angela Belcamino]

He's pretty close.

[Ian Crossland]

That was cool, though, how he. Rogan put his dick on the line and then he just had all his friends come and it was like, look, it's not just me. I'm not crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Fort Worth power station exploded and is on power substation.

[Angela Belcamino]

Another fire.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we're gonna go to callers, everybody. Let's start with Simon of Germania. You're on the program.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What's up, Simon?

[Tim Pool]

You are muted, sir.

[Harold]

Hey, how's it going?

[Ian Crossland]

Hello.

[Tim Pool]

It's going well. Well is how I would describe it.

[Harold]

Good to hear. Good to hear. So I have a bit of a general question for the entire panel. You guys have talked a lot about the fire. You guys have talked about the smelt. You've talked about how they've drained lakes and such. My question to you guys is, do you think that the county leadership and state leadership should face federal costs for their absolute failure?

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Ian Crossland]

To prevent this fire.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, y. I need cash now.

[Ian Crossland]

I'm getting like a video feed.

[Tim Pool]

I think that's my headset. I think that's him.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, on your. On your end, there was a video kind of talking over your.

[Tim Pool]

No, it's someone behind him. Like he's. He's outside or something.

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, okay, okay, okay. That. That was what it was. I had a hard time understanding that that was that because of the background noise.

[Angela Belcamino]

I think they should be held accountable and like, openly have to omit their wrongs.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I think they should be investigated for misappropriation of funds, dereliction of duty, etc, which would likely be civil consequences. That's it. We can't allow this anymore, man. This country will not exist if this stuff persists.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's one of the things that we talked about, you know, in the past here is. Is there is no longer a situation where people are held to account for things that go wrong. Like politicians like Joe Biden has not been held to account for what happened in.

[Tim Pool]

What is that. What is that from. Is that us? Oh, shit. Metro was playing random videos.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Joe Biden was never held accountable for what happened in. You know, for the pull. The pullout. You know, there's.

[Ian Crossland]

Aside from surrender in Afghanistan.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. I mean, aside, like arguably, you might say the fact that he didn't get reelected was him being held accountable, but that's. That's not really being held to account. Like, that's the kind of thing like that. That presidents resign over, like blowing things that badly, like botching something that badly. That's the kind of thing that should. That presidents get censured for. They don't even use the censure power.

[Tim Pool]

Most.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Most Americans don't even know what a censure is.

[Ian Crossland]

What is it?

[Tim Pool]

I don't.

[Seamus Coughlin]

It's an official. It's one of the means to officially reprimand people in. In Congress or in the Senate or in the government. It goes into the official record saying they did this thing and everybody disapproves. You're not. You're not. It doesn't rise to the level of. Of removing them from office, but it's saying, look, you officially are a piece of. And you blew it right here. And we're going to make sure that this goes into the public record and it's in the library of Congress that says you botched this. He should absolutely have. There should be more of that kind of, excuse me, those kind of repercussions. But we don't do any of it in my lifetime.

[Ian Crossland]

We never did. It was Nixon, I think is the last one that had to face.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, he resigned to get out of being impeached. The reason he resigned was because he was going to be impeached.

[Angela Belcamino]

And he's like, see ya. What, what did he resign for? He messed up.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Watergate scandal.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

He had people spying on the Democratic Party that he was running against or that's the story. I think that people have said that he got railroaded, that it might have been.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He covered the thing is he covered it up, the cut. Like that's why you hear the phrase the COVID up is worse than the crime that's directly related to water, to Watergate, the Watergate. The Democrat Republican operatives went and broke into a Democrat, a Democrat office in the Watergate Hotel. And he knew about it and he covered it up. And so that's where why they say the COVID up is actually worse than the crime. Because it wasn't that big of a deal that people broke into the office. And you know, because he didn't break into the office, he knew about it, but he didn't actually do it. But because he knew about it, he covered it up. And that's why they were like, well, you're lying to the American people and we're going to impeach you for lying. Back when if you were the president and you did something wrong, they actually treated you like you did something wrong. But that all ended.

[Ian Crossland]

Bush senior got in and that was like deep state.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, it was at some point like Carter got stung pretty bad.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Nothing happened to Carter.

[Ian Crossland]

He just got jammed and made fun of.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And yeah, there's nothing official that happened to Carter.

[Tim Pool]

He's burned the country down.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He lost his, his reelection. President Reagan was put under oath for the Iran Contra scandal, but his defense was, I don't recall, I don't recall, I don't recall. And so they were saying he was like, I don't remember. I don't remember that. Specifically that conversation. I don't recall. So arguably you can say, well, you know, he didn't lie because he's just saying that he didn't remember. And you can't prove that he remembered if it didn't, you know. But then when Bill Clinton was brought for impeachment, you know, he was impeached. He was found to have lied under oath. And, you know, nothing happened because by then the country had gotten so. So partisan that Democrats controlled the Congress and they wouldn't remove their president from office because he was a Democrat. And everybody turned it into, oh, it's about sex. It's about a blowjob. It's not about, you know, it was, you know, people in power, men in power, do those kind of things, and it's okay and, you know, might do that, too, and blah, blah, blah, when in reality, it was about lying under oath. So he. He was under oath and he said, you know, he said to the American people. I remember he shook his finger at the American people and he said, I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. And that was a lot. He did. It was under oath. And it came out that he did. He got impeached for it, but he wasn't removed from office. And after that, then, you know, that.

[Ian Crossland]

Was like, the precedent was. Was Clinton lying under oath? Probably, yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I mean, that was. He. He clearly broke the law, Right? Clearly. There was no. There was nothing ambiguous about it. He admitted that he broke the law and he lied about it. Like, he admitted that he lied under oath. That's a violation of the law. And that's. Anytime, you know, if you or I do that, we go to jail, you know, and. But the president, you know, he doesn't.

[Ian Crossland]

I remember, oh, James Clapper, who was, I think the director of the NSA at the time, he built before Congress, and they said they were asking about the spy program, and he said, we did not wittingly spy on the American people. And then turned out later that they did.

[Seamus Coughlin]

They did.

[Ian Crossland]

In the definition of the word, wittingly is, like, on the table, but at the same time, like, I haven't seen anything. Let's.

[Tim Pool]

Let's throw it back to Simon real quick. You want to add anything to that?

[Seamus Coughlin]

No. Good.

[Harold]

No. I think you guys kind of hit the nail on the head on it.

[Ian Crossland]

It's.

[Harold]

We don't have any, really anybody doing anything to hold people accountable.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we're right on, man. Do you want to shout anything out before we move on?

[Harold]

Yeah, there's the. The after show. Everybody can come and join on that and wish me luck as I apply to grad school for planetary science.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Good luck.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, dude, right on.

[Tim Pool]

Thanks for calling in, buddy.

[Harold]

Thank you.

[Tim Pool]

All right, next up, we will grab Kai. Welcome to the show.

[Kai]

Good to be back, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

My questions for the Tim and you are very quiet.

[Kai]

Sorry about that. My question is for you and crew. Since the insurance Companies pulled out of California for the fires. Do you believe the left, especially the low information kind, will blame the CEOs for the, for those companies, for why people no. No longer have insurance for their homes and possibly pull a Luigi.

[Tim Pool]

And they're going to say profit driven and they're going to say that like they only cared about money, they should give people stuff for free. Communism will win. All that kind of bullshit as.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Or do you think.

[Kai]

Or do you think they'll wake up to the Democrat policies being a failure now? Especially if they try to do a rebuild with all, with all the red tape?

[Ian Crossland]

Kind of depends. If we break through the echo chamber, there'll be residual. People will be waking up and realizing like the government's fucked. Like the government made rules or something that made the insurance companies not able to handle it. There'll be some people, but really it's about like making a noise about it and making it unavoidable, like the information unavoidable. I was thinking about that today, like the last 15 years or 10 years of malfeasance in the Ukraine and then before that with the, the protests, in my damn protests, all that stuff kind of would have just. If you didn't look for it, you never would have known and it just would have happened. But because people were looking for it and making noise about it, it the. Almost the entire species woke up. And I, I think that, that we can kind of replicate that technique. But if nothing is done, Magic Castle is being threatened. Oh, geez. Yeah, I've been there.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ian Crossland]

At dinner there. A friend of mine got married there. The Magic Castle, I love that area. Dude, I used to live in that area.

[Angela Belcamino]

Do you think in a week the fires will be done or do you think we'll still be talking about them in about. In a week or so?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I don't know for sure, but I don't.

[Tim Pool]

I need to. I, I'm sorry, I. I got to reach out to some friends who are trapped in the LA area and have nowhere to go. And just. We got. We got to bring them down here and so we're gonna have to give them a place to stay. So I'm gonna be reaching out to Milo Yiannopoulos, lives in Los Angeles, and bring him down. Yeah, yeah. Some guy I know, you know, he's in la.

[Ian Crossland]

It's a good time to extend your hand.

[Seamus Coughlin]

We've got thick jackets here for you guys to let you borrow.

[Ian Crossland]

Milo would love it here.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, for, for one day with a fire and they'd be like it's ghastly in here.

[Ian Crossland]

He's got enough fat on his body to keep him warm.

[Tim Pool]

I love you, Milo.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You would call it ghastly.

[Angela Belcamino]

I was.

[Tim Pool]

Funny guy like, Milo.

[Ian Crossland]

Is he in la? Literally, he's right there, right now. Geez.

[Tim Pool]

You guys were saying something before I interrupted you. Continue.

[Angela Belcamino]

We're asking if the fires are still.

[Ian Crossland]

Gonna be relevant, like in a week.

[Angela Belcamino]

Well, they're gonna still be relevant, but, like, will they still be burning in a week?

[Tim Pool]

No. Well, I mean, there's no rain scale.

[Angela Belcamino]

I mean, there's nothing to stop them.

[Tim Pool]

Fire only burns so long.

[Angela Belcamino]

But if that's so much to burn.

[Tim Pool]

What if, like, if there's fuel of LA burns?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I mean, look, if there's fuel, like, it'd be great. The winds, the winds are, are. As long as the winds are, are really strong and there's fuel and they don't have the ability to. To you put any, anything out to put it out. If they don't have access to water, there's no reason to think that they're just going to stop. Yeah, you know, they don't just stop because it, you know, even if the wind dies down, they don't just stop on their own.

[Angela Belcamino]

They were literally, like, asking, like, volunteers on, like, yeah, on X and on social media. Like, we need people to come help. We need volunteers. Like, by tomorrow, do you think there'll be a lot of other states that have brought in their own firefighters? Like people from Nevada and from even Utah, Arizona areas?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I don't know. Like I said, I hit a friend of mine up last night and I was like, hey. And he lives in California. He's not from la, but he lives in California. And he used to be a firefighter. Used to jump out of one of the guys that jumps out of planes over, you know, wildfires out in the middle of nowhere. And I'm like, yo, you need to get to la. He's like, bro, ain't God going to stop this? A fire that's being fueled by the Santa Ana winds.

[Tim Pool]

So, Kai, is there anything you wanted to add?

[Kai]

Well, at least invite, at least invite Hassan to your place.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Not in danger, you know?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, not him.

[Ian Crossland]

Hassan. We gotta get Hasano here. We gotta get. Who else needs a ride?

[Tim Pool]

I've got some friends. I got a bunch of friends in la, and some of them haven't talked to in years, and they're prominent liberals, very prominent, but they're. They've never been violent, never advocated for violence, never said anything about it. They just Posted dumb white privileged shit. It's like, that's kind of person where we haven't talked. But I. If someone took a swing at him, I would stand in the way and I'd stop. That's my friend. Right. You know, I've got friends that I talk to on a regular basis who are fairly liberal and left, and I've known these people for, like decades. I used to live out there. Those are the people I'm inviting and being like, if you need a place, let me know.

[Ian Crossland]

That's cool.

[Angela Belcamino]

Very nice.

[Ian Crossland]

I like people that are.

[Tim Pool]

We have no choice. I mean, that's what we have to do, you know, I don't think it's about being nice. It's being like, yo, my homie is like, covered.

[Angela Belcamino]

Like, it's a good friend.

[Tim Pool]

I have a friend who lives really close to one of these fires right now, and I'm kind of worried. Oh, dang.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So I'm reaching out, being what a.

[Angela Belcamino]

Good friend should do.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we. We can get your hotel. We get your space. We can get your guest room, whatever you need. We got trailers. We got everything. We have, actually. We have several bathrooms, rooms.

[Ian Crossland]

Does your buddy own or is he renting?

[Tim Pool]

She.

[Ian Crossland]

She.

[Tim Pool]

See you. That was sexist of you. Well, there's an assumption he is in.

[Ian Crossland]

The word she, so you're always okay to be like, hey, man, I saw Isabella Moody the other night in. Oh, at that after. At James O'Keefe's after party down in. In Phoenix. And I was like, hey, man. And she was like, man, I was like, really? It's. It's woman. You know, like everybody's man. Yeah, like everybody's he, everybody's man. Woman.

[Tim Pool]

Well, should we. Should we. Should we grab the next caller? Kai, did you want to sh. Anything out?

[Kai]

Thanks, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

Have a.

[Kai]

Have. Have a nice year.

[Tim Pool]

I will.

[Ian Crossland]

See me.

[Tim Pool]

Thanks for calling in.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Cheers, man.

[Tim Pool]

Next up, we got Harold of the Omnistone.

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

Hey, guys, can you hear me?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Hey, Harold.

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

Quiet.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, be kind of quiet.

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

How's that?

[Ian Crossland]

Oh, it's better.

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

Okay, so. Yeah, I used to always say that, you know, Hollywood deserves to burn for its crimes, but I meant that metaphorically.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

But considering the CEO assassination support being based on wrong information about why the insurance company ended the coverage of anesthesia, do you think that these fires combined with Allstate coverage cancellations will likely lead to. To more calls for assassinations and targeting of all state employees or the CEO?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Leftists are going to call for violence no matter what excuse you give them.

[Ian Crossland]

That's like a terrorism.

[Tim Pool]

A CEO could be walking down the street and trip on a shoelace and fall down and they're looking to go, it's his fault. Do you guys see the post from that guy who was like, does anybody know a private firefighting service that can help protect my home? I'll pay and I'll pay anything. And they're like, kill him. Kill. I'm like, what's wrong with what he's saying? Like, people. People should be. Should absolutely be reaching out for extra relief efforts. Like, what the fuck? If he said calling on all volunteers to come protect homes in the Palisades, nobody would bat an eye. But when he says, I will pay you to literally protect our houses, they're like, you burn. These leftists are evil. Yep.

[Angela Belcamino]

And that guy was probably also a leftist just trying to get help.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Angela Belcamino]

A rich guy who was like, seriously.

[Tim Pool]

We evacuated our house. Is there anyone we can hire who will come and help protect us? And they're like, we will murder you. And it's like, what?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Angela Belcamino]

If I was. If I were a CEO, I would not be walking around without security.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I just saw this on breaking9.1 1 and retweeted it. Hollywood Hills blaze embers are now setting fires. Residential buildings.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So it's getting down to the road.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude. I got friends who live in the Hills especially.

[Ian Crossland]

I got Beechwood, like, right there at the Franklin Beechwood. I used to live there. This is what you have video from.

[Seamus Coughlin]

They're calling it the Sunset fire now because. Sunset. Wow.

[Ian Crossland]

Dude. Oh, my God. I got goosebumps when you said that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, dude. When I. When I. When I saw the Runyon Canyon fire, like, I know somebody who lives literally just north of where that fire is. And I'm like, oh, fuck, I love that canyon.

[Ian Crossland]

That's my favorite area in the whole city is Runyon. Griffith Park. I think I like Griffith park the best.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of people live out there. Holy shit, dude. And that's the thing, too. It's like when people are saying, like, fuck Hollywood, let it burns. Like, dude, there's a lot of good people who live there, man.

[Ethan Ralph]

We know.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah. And so much good work, woods, man.

[Tim Pool]

We love James Woods. He's great. He's Hades and Hercules.

[Ian Crossland]

As much as, like, some of the institutional money is, like the Hollywood big budget stuff. There's a lot of really awesome performers and talent and. And mega, like, talent coming out of LA is really, really. They call it the Mecca for a lot of reasons.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Simon says it'd be sad if Griffith burns. Absolutely, man. But Griffith is surrounded by nothing. So I don't think the fire will make it to Griffith. Like, it will surround it, but there's no, like, forest surrounding the Griffith Observatory. But the park itself.

[Angela Belcamino]

Well, that would be Senate Griffith.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I know.

[Ian Crossland]

Trees, like, right?

[Tim Pool]

I love the observatory, dude. I used to go there like three times a month when I lived in la.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's so awesome.

[Tim Pool]

Like on the weekend I'd be like, let's go to Griffith because we like hiking up. You hike up at the top and then you just go. And you look at the sun.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, looking at the sun, dude.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but.

[Ian Crossland]

But it's like bulbous.

[Tim Pool]

And you go in the observatory filter and you can see.

[Ian Crossland]

I didn't start sungazing until later.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, no, no. Staring at the sun.

[Angela Belcamino]

Imagine the photo of the Hollywood sign just with flame.

[Tim Pool]

I just thought that, like, that will.

[Ian Crossland]

Be like the devil. The look of Satan, like the evil demonic, kind of like Biden with that red and black background when he's like, ah.

[Angela Belcamino]

Imagine just the Hollywood sign, just flames and then just the photos that will come off out of that.

[Ian Crossland]

The words on fire.

[Angela Belcamino]

Hollywood is literally burning. That'd be crazy. It sounds like it's not too far away.

[Ian Crossland]

I wanna. I want, like up.

[Angela Belcamino]

Because that. The Hollywood sign's not far away from Griffith or.

[Ian Crossland]

Nope, no, it's between the two.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

And people used to sneak up there. You're not supposed to, but.

[Angela Belcamino]

Yeah, they have. The people with the tell with the megaphones are like, get down. Yeah, I try to climb up.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Harold of the Omnistone. You want to shout, you want to add anything or what's up?

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

Yeah, I just want to say the memes are going to come out of. If the Hollywood sign starts burning is going to be less.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, man, I hope not. We want to win back our institutions that were stolen by communists, not burn them down, you know?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, true, but.

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

And another thing I just want to shout out real quick is my X page. I'm at X ism or at X underscore isms. Phil Labonte actually follows me.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Cheers.

[Heavy's Heaviest of Ghosts]

And. And yeah, I just also wanted to ask if I could get a shout out to Elon Musk to fix my X profile so that I don't have to use an alt account anymore to go into spaces. Other than that. Thank you very much.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. Thanks for calling in, brother. All right, next up, we have got Heavy's heaviest of ghosts. There you go. Last but not least.

[Ethan Ralph]

All right, how's everybody doing tonight?

[Tim Pool]

We're Doing well.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well activated.

[Tim Pool]

I'm a little sick, but, you know, I almost actually didn't do work today because I'm getting. I'm getting a lung thing. But I fought through it, did an extra hour of Piers Morgan, filmed the first of the return of the Tim cast essays. So I thank you for asking.

[Ian Crossland]

I told Grok to make me some images of the Hollywood side on fire, and it did.

[Angela Belcamino]

Oh, no.

[Ian Crossland]

Kind of disturbing.

[Ethan Ralph]

Oof.

[Ian Crossland]

It looks beautiful, actually.

[Ethan Ralph]

So my question is, I actually just wanted to know if you guys wanted to discuss real quick a news story that I haven't heard anyone talk about.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Out.

[Ethan Ralph]

Probably because of the fires. Sam Altman's sister on Monday filed suit against him, alleging that he had sexually abused her in between the ages of 2 and 12.

[Tim Pool]

I call her.

[Ethan Ralph]

Yeah, her family says she's crazy. That's what I'm leaning towards. Sam's already came out and made a statement.

[Tim Pool]

Well, so Sam Altman's sister made these accusations four years ago that he molested her. However, Altman came out as gay as a teenager. Meaning, like, he's been gay his whole life. I don't believe it for a second. It sounds to me like some dude got super rich and a family member was like, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So sad.

[Tim Pool]

Yep.

[Ian Crossland]

I don't know. At first. First thing I thought was, like, why in the. Would she make something like that up? Like what she said 10 years that he abused her and that the family, like, rallying around Sam. Doesn't surprise me. Even if it did happen, they don't. Maybe they don't even know about it. I didn't know Sam was gay until just now.

[Angela Belcamino]

Me neither.

[Tim Pool]

He came out as gay. 16.

[Ian Crossland]

That doesn't.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Different kind of gay.

[Ian Crossland]

Like the gay where you want to do it, but you don't.

[Tim Pool]

No, the gay where he's like, a loser who steals ip.

[Ian Crossland]

Like, that's gay. That kind of thing.

[Ethan Ralph]

Okay, sorry, that was a little more inquisitive. Like, more on Ian's side is like, reading the story. It seems like she's had a lifetime of trauma, and I just have to ask, like, where does that come from?

[Tim Pool]

If I know. Dude, I've had people stab me in the back that I thought were good friends, and you never see it coming. People are evil.

[Ethan Ralph]

That's true.

[Tim Pool]

Sometimes people are just evil.

[Ethan Ralph]

Fair enough.

[Ian Crossland]

It would be like. It would obliterate Sam Altman's life if it.

[Tim Pool]

It's blackmail.

[Ian Crossland]

It came out as true.

[Tim Pool]

You're rich. Give me money. No. Well, then I'm gonna lie about you. What are you gonna do about it? And then the lawyers are like, we don't care. We just act for the work for the client. And they're like, he'll probably just settle, make it go away. And he says, fuck you. No, I won't. So then she goes public, and then.

[Ian Crossland]

Then it's just her word against the family's word. I mean, she did. No charges have been brought. It was just an accusation.

[Tim Pool]

It's bullshit. All the me too shit's bullshit. Fuck off. You know, man, like, they fuck. The left constantly fucks with our good graces. You get someone being like, Harvey Weinstein was raping women, and we're like, that's really up, man. Like, we should. We should not allow that. Next thing you know, it's like everyone in the world. Aziz Ansari is being accused of rape because he had a bad date. And. Yeah, like, they're trying to destroy his career. Off. I'm done with these people. We've been done for these people.

[Ethan Ralph]

Fair enough.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Angela Belcamino]

Tim, what do you think about DeShawn Watson?

[Tim Pool]

Who's that?

[Angela Belcamino]

Football player? The Chiefs or the Browns Quarterback who had, like, 26? Anyone else?

[Ian Crossland]

Now, what happened?

[Angela Belcamino]

Well, he's. It's just like. Yeah, he's had over, like, 20 plus sexual assault charge come. Charges come against him. And he's still got paid, like, $300 million guaranteed money. 300 million?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know about that.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Angela Belcamino]

For his NFL contract, but 300. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That would make him, like, the highest NFL player and, like, it was the.

[Angela Belcamino]

Highest contract at that. But. Yeah. I'm surprised you haven't heard anything about that. Like, his me. His me too stuff is a little, like, fishy where it's like 26 of them.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Angela Belcamino]

But I was interested if you've ever heard about that.

[Ian Crossland]

No, no, that's the first I heard of it. DeShawn Williams.

[Angela Belcamino]

DeShawn Watson.

[Tim Pool]

Watson.

[Angela Belcamino]

Yeah. I mean, this is kind of older. This is like, old stuff, but it's tied in that MeToo movement where his might have been just like, too many allegations to not believe that one of them happened.

[Tim Pool]

Heaviest. You want to shout anything out?

[Ethan Ralph]

I don't have any shout outs. I did have one favor to ask of you personally, Tim. I personally. I had a brief exchange with James Lindsay today about your guys's disagreement on the whole woke right thing.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Ethan Ralph]

And from what I understand is it seems to be terrible branding on his side and a misunderstanding of his fundamental position on your side.

[Tim Pool]

I can only go off the tweets he says and then me responding to the things he says. And so when people like Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson are lumped in with Nick Fuentes, I'm like, clearly this makes no sense. The dude said the example of woke right is Oren McIntyre. And I'm like, what right?

[Ethan Ralph]

And I agree with your position. You've definitely made some valid points. If I can just have another second, I would like to read out my tweet that I had to him that he agreed with. As far as a better definition of woke right, which is it's essentially a group of sometimes connected but mostly disconnected factions that are not necessarily within the conservative movement, but certainly adjacent to it. The factions have a bent or predisposition towards authoritarianism or authoritarian collectivism in one way or another. And like the left, say 20ish years ago, they're on the fringes without power now. But we, it's not something we should ignore.

[Tim Pool]

How does that describe Arne McIntyre?

[Ethan Ralph]

I don't like, I don't think it's a, a group of people. I'm not problem that he has a problem branding.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm not misunderstanding James Lindsay. He's incoherent and he's getting obliterated for being incoherent.

[Ethan Ralph]

Yeah, I think he has a branding problem.

[Tim Pool]

But if you want to say that there is a, a, a grievance collectivist, right, I'll say, okay, if you say woke right, you're basically just saying far right or alt right. It's a meaningless nonsense term. And then he lumps in Aaron McIntyre, Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith in the same category. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Ethan Ralph]

Like, that's exactly what branding.

[Tim Pool]

It's not branding, it's him just insulting people who are conservative or right leaning. I'm like, when, when Luke Beasley's talking about how the right is more violent, I'm like, dude, you can't, you can't compare anti war Dave Smith, who's Jewish, with a white supremacist neo Nazi who wants a white ethno state. These are not the right. They're two different things. So when James Lindsay is just sitting there being like the woke right and then he lumps everybody in. He may as well be doing exactly what woke people have been doing the whole fucking time, which is saying, if you're against me, you are far right. His he's completely incoherent.

[Ethan Ralph]

I, I did get him to agree that it's a group of mostly disconnected.

[Tim Pool]

Factions though, but that's not what Woke means.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Right.

[Ethan Ralph]

And so it's just him trying to brand a problem that is not a.

[Tim Pool]

Like Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes have almost nothing in common problems.

[Ian Crossland]

Right.

[Ethan Ralph]

It's a bunch of different problematic people in a bunch of different areas that he's trying to grouped together.

[Tim Pool]

So he's literally just saying people I don't like.

[Ethan Ralph]

Right, right. But he's, it seems to be the, the joining theme is authoritarian collectivism while.

[Tim Pool]

Dave Smith and Tucker aren't authoritarians.

[Ethan Ralph]

Right. I disagree with him on those ones.

[Tim Pool]

So what he's saying is incoherent.

[Ian Crossland]

I do like that he has, has kind of brought the consciousness to focus on that you're not immune to becoming woke just because of your current political idea. Like you can get, you can get co opted by crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, we're going to do it again. Woke does not have anything to do with ideology because what we define as woke has an amorphous ideology.

[Ethan Ralph]

For example, it's a cult, like adherence to liberal social orthodox.

[Tim Pool]

And that's what I'm explaining to Ian as he said you could be woke. No, wokeness is literally when you are adhering to illogical facets of whatever the left says we must agree with. What about like, and the reason why a best example is Jimmy Dore, socialist is not woke and Blair White, a trans woman, is not woke. They are both called far right. That makes no fucking sense. So you get it used to be.

[Ethan Ralph]

The left's word, but we took it from them and turned it into something else.

[Tim Pool]

Well, woke meant you were aware of.

[Ian Crossland]

Like red, red pill that's woken up.

[Tim Pool]

Just same thing. But when people describe woke, the underlying factor is that people adhere to a, to this, this cult, like amorphous hive mind. That's all it is. So, so once again, when James is like the woke, right, he's trying to take what we hate about the cult and apply it to people he doesn't like. And then he lumps in Oren McIntyre with Nick Fuentes and I'm like, dude.

[Ian Crossland]

Stop, I didn't see that context. What, what was the lumping?

[Tim Pool]

He so woke, right? He tried. He often says Candace Owens and Nick Fuentes are woke. Right? And then someone asked him, give me a person who's an example of woke, right as Aaron McIntyre. And I'm like, what? Orin McIntyre is like a post liberal nationalist. The fuck does it have to do with the Jew haters? He's just saying everybody who disagrees with my worldview and lifestyle is woke.

[Ian Crossland]

Well, what I think is important is that when it comes to wokeness, people that are adhering to some fanatical ideology that it could become like, if Trump were to go crazy, he's not. But if he did, some crazy thing is like, we're gonna send everybody to prison. Geez, I'm blowing up the mic there. We're going to send everybody to prison for burning the American flag. And there's a cultist that are like, yes, Trump says it.

[Tim Pool]

So, yes, that's like, still not woke. Because right now on the right, you have disparate factions that all hate each other. And on the left, liberals, leftists, communists and anarchists march side by side, firebombing the same buildings, and they refuse to speak out against each other. That's what a cult is. So when Dave Smith says, I can't stand the Jew shit, but don't call me an anti Semit for criticizing Israel, I'm like, right, David's not far right or anti Semitic or anything literally Jewish. He's critical of Israel's military. Why are you lumping in post liberal nationalists with white ethno state? It's what the. Okay, this is why they call James Lindsay woke light. I call James Lindsay woke. Right? Because woke is cult, like adherence to liberal social orthodoxy. And what James Lindsay is trying to do is to realign the center of wokeness towards his worldview, his liberal facets. The dude is. He's in a. I don't know if this is true. He's a polyamorous relationship. I got no beef. But that's his liberal worldview. Conservatives don't believe in that. So he starts lumping in all of the conservatives with the new woke, right? He's basically saying, don't be like them. They are my enemy. When you say what woke people do, and I'm going to tell you, I fucking despise wokeness because they make no sense. They're illogical, they're racist, they're bigoted, they want war. It makes no fucking sense. What I can't stand principally about all of this shit, and many of you may have noticed this, because my entire career is when people are lying about shit. When they lied about Trump, I said, stop fucking lying about Trump. I'm not going to vote for the guy, but you're fucking making me defend him. The principal issue for me has always been assholes coming out and being like Trump called Nazis. Fine people. I'm like, no, he fucking didn't. Shut the fuck up. Argue that Trump is bad for why you think he's bad. Don't Lie about them to try and manipulate me. That offends me. And what we see now is James Lindsay playing the same stupid fucking game the left and the woke always do because he is what they call woke light. He's not saying trans your kids. He's not, he's, he's coming out being like haha look these leftists are bad and everyone who disagrees with me is woke right? Just like them. Oh shut the fuck up dude. Dave, Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes are McIntyre all have disparate ideologies and they're not in a cult like adherence to each other. It's, it's, it's a stupid smear. And I'm sick of the people on the left and liberals saying Tim Pool is far right. What does that fucking mean? What does that fucking mean? And now James Lindsay is doing the exact same shit. He can't define it because the left has never been able to defend to define what right wing is. They don't fucking know. So I'm sick of this. We what he's doing is it's a psychological manipulation attack. It is fucking grade school level bullshit. That's what really annoys me about it where it's hey Ian, you hate wokeness, right?

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I hate it.

[Tim Pool]

Right wing guy is woke. Oh he's attacking the weak willed and you've get these fucking it's disaffected liberals who are like the woke right? You have to live the way we live and we're going to dictate what you can or can't say. I'm like dude, I got no problem with people who are like America should have borders and celebrate Christmas and all that stuff. I'm like okay, thank you for making your argument. I have a personal problem. The people are like I hate Jews, Jews run the world and juju, juju, juju. I think they're nuts. They're certainly not the same people. Let's have a real argument about what the problem is. I will break down exactly why I think the Jews run the world. People are insane. How about Jake Shields being like Tim Salt the Joe's. The guy's stupid. He made that shit up. He wouldn't take my bet on $1,000 because he was lying. Because he knew he was lying because it gets him clicks. He's got nothing in common with Dave Smith. I know Dave went on his show and they talked about the criticisms of Israel. You're allowed to but to then lump Orrin McIntyre, Dave Tucker candidate, all these people. What? Fuck off. They all believe different shit. Meanwhile, I can go to Luke Beasley and he will word vomit talking points that the Democrat party tells him to along with all the other far left cult like adherence to the narrative machine. I go on Piers Morgan today with Kara Swisher and I said, the UK government covered up the rape of children. And she goes, no, they didn't. And Pierce goes, actually they did. She's just trying to say whatever the liberal machine tells her to say. That is what the core of wokeness is. So anyway, I digress. We do got to go. I gotta go to bed. I'm getting sick.

[Ian Crossland]

When you said it was okay, I can ask you this. Well, real, maybe you can answer this. When you say it's an adherence to a liberal ideology, do you mean like orthodoxy? Liberal orthodoxy? Is that like the modern mutated liberal thing that's happening or.

[Tim Pool]

It does not mean political liberalism. It means in this country there are two terms we use. We use liberal conservative. They don't really mean much other than which camp you are in. So I can say left social orthodoxy. It means that if you are on the left, like Hasan Piker, you have to simultaneously say the military industrial complex is bad, but we support the military industrial complex's actions in Ukraine because it's fucking retarded. That's wokeness.

[Ian Crossland]

So do you think that there's no right orthodoxy?

[Tim Pool]

There is certainly not. That's why this show is called right wing, despite the fact that Seamus is like, Tim's a liberal. Conservatives call me a liberal all day, every day of the week.

[Ian Crossland]

Yeah, I think the only right orthodoxy would have been Christianity if there had been one.

[Tim Pool]

And that's been shattered to a million different things. And the Christian nationalists are a small component of the right and they argue with the libertarian faction and the post liberal faction. They all disagree with each other. So there is no cult like adherence. Because I'm gonna sit down on this show and tell one of these, you know, anti Jewish people why they're wrong. And then when Michaela Peterson says the woke right was really just racist and their criticism of H1B was actually about skin color, whatever the fuck she said. I'm like, it's not woke right to say not investing. You know, this is exactly what the fuck the woke people do. Tucker Carlson was asked on stage and they said, you don't want any more non whites coming in. He goes, what? I never said that the interests of black Americans are the same as white Americans. You made it about race. It was a viral moment. Tucker Carlson did not Say white. White nationalism. When Tucker Carlson said americans are being replaced, they said, that's, that's racist white supremacist replacement theory. And he says, I never said white people. I said Americans. They lied about it. So then when I, a for like a disaffected or post liberal, relatively liberal guy, say H1B is abused, and we in this country need to invest in the children of our nation, that's woke right now. Dude. This is just the liberals recognizing WOKE was crushed and they're trying to play the same stupid fucking game where they're like, now we're gonna realign the left. It's going to adhere to our worldview, and that means we have to excise anyone who is on the right of us and lump them all in with one enemy faction. We'll call it alt right, we'll call it far right, we'll call it woke. Right?

[Ian Crossland]

You should do a show with James for the culture war, as. Is there a woke, right as the question, because, well, one. I love him.

[Tim Pool]

It's not a prominent idea and the dude has fallen off.

[Ian Crossland]

I mean, he's still James. He's.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's cool.

[Ian Crossland]

But like, it would be interesting because I think there's been a lot of hype building towards it too, for the last like six or eight months.

[Tim Pool]

It's like, Constantine, Kyson Cernovich had a really great tweet. He's like, why won't, why won't, why won't Trigonometry host Jake Shields? Are they, are they anti liberal for refusing to platform someone's argument?

[Ian Crossland]

No, you can host whoever you want.

[Tim Pool]

So, so if they make the argument, why aren't they hosting Jake Shields?

[Ian Crossland]

What's the. What argument?

[Tim Pool]

If their argument is they are the true liberals and they respect free speech and all of these things and Jake is woke, don't they want to challenge those ideas and bring them on his show?

[Ian Crossland]

I. It maybe, I don't know. You host whoever you want, do whatever you want.

[Tim Pool]

The point is, the right, right now, the Trump alliance, whatever you want to call it, is a spattering of disparate ideologies that came together around some unifying features. The left had gone nuts and we believe in rational truth. Now James, Lindsay and Constantine and other disaffected liberals are trying to realign the left under their umbrella using the same tactics of wokeness. Okay, I got to wrap it up because I'm getting sick. I got to go to bed. I got to rest my throat heaviest. Thanks for calling in.

[Ethan Ralph]

Absolutely. Sorry if I struck a nerve there. Hope you have a great night. Congratulations again on your upcoming family, sir.

[Tim Pool]

Thank you very much. We will see you next time. Thanks for calling in peace. And Discord has frozen.

[Ian Crossland]

Perfect timing.

[Tim Pool]

All right, Nick. Thanks for hanging out, man. It's been fun.

[Angela Belcamino]

No, thank you. I really appreciate it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Right on.

[Ian Crossland]

A good time in Greenland.

[Angela Belcamino]

Good.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah. You did great, man. Yeah, we'll have you back whenever. It'd be great. And we'll, we'll. We'd love to show some of the stuff you find in Greenland to be fun.

[Angela Belcamino]

Oh, yeah, of course. You guys can use whatever.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. And for everybody else, thank you for being members. We will be back tomorrow. And don't forget YouTube.com timcast the essays are back. It's up. It's about censorship and fact checkers. We'll see you all tomorrow.