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Tim Pool
In New Jersey, 6,600 non citizens were accidentally registered to vote despite saying they were not citizens. Interesting timing. We're now getting confirmation from the New York Times that an error led to 400 non citizens actually voting. Now I'm sure many people are going to come out and say, oh no, so what? It's not a big deal, it's only 400. I'm sure that can't swing an election depending on the jurisdiction. Actually, for localities it really could. Now what's interesting about this is that this comes only a few days after we saw Mark Wayne Mullen, Donald Trump come out and address the issue of non citizens on our voter rolls and threaten to withhold funding from states that did not remove them. And lo, we, we see New Jersey go oopsie daisy.
Phil
Wow.
Tim Pool
I gotta say, I'm actually impressed. I did not think the threat of withholding grants was all that strong. But to see New Jersey come out and be like, yeah, actually we got lots of this. Now what we found, or I should say what the Trump administration found, was around 270, 280,000 noncitizens registered, but they did not have access to blue states data. And we're now learning, hey, actually noncitizens are voting. I'm sure the liberals are gonna say it's not widespread enough to have an impact, but that's not the point. The point is it exists and it could be enough in small jurisdictions. But hey, hey, hold on. You know what, why are we arguing? We all agree it's bad, right? Great, then let's just be done with it and go through these other states and solve this problem. So we're gonna talk about that. Plus a bunch of other funny informatum. We've got Van Jones on CNN saying the Democrats have become socialists, they've gone too far. But an excellent point being brought up on the show. The socialist victories in New York are going to have a national effect. Moderate Democrats or those purporting to be, are going to be plagued by the socialist messages from national level politicians. So they might be trying to run in Michigan saying, no, no, I'm a regular person, not a socialist. But it won't matter because the party is beginning to represent socialism and communism, as Bill Maher said. Now you combine this with other big news. The Republicans have a billion dollars across their organizations to Democrats, 334 million spending talks, BS walks. You check any election and you will see almost a one for one relation between victories and spending. You combine redistricting with spending, with bad polling for Democrats. It is not actually looking good for Democrats. Now, I'm not saying they're gonna lose. They still are the favorites, but by a. By a hair. So we're gonna talk about that and a whole lot more. And before we do, we got a great sponsor for you guys. It is backyard butchers. Head over to backyard butchers.com use promo code TIM. They got great deals. You know, my friends, you got to eat real food and real meat. Did you guys know that just four companies control the majority of America's beef supply and the largest is actually foreign owned?
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Tim Pool
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Matthew Farachi
Good evening, Tim. How are you?
Tim Pool
Welcome back. Who are you? What do you do?
Matthew Farachi
Well, I do a lot of things, but I'm the founder of a group called Torch QRF and we're fighting for religious freedom around the world.
Tim Pool
Torch qrf.org Easy enough. Welcome back to the show. Libby is here.
Libby Emmons
I'm Libby Emmons. I'm really glad to be here with you guys tonight.
Phil
Hello everybody. My name is Phil and leasing or the heavy metal band all the Remains. What's up, Carter?
Tim Pool
Hello, everyone. Carter here and thanks for, for coming, everyone. Matthew, good to see you again, Libby. And let's get into the news. Here we go. From NBC News, 6,600 non citizens were registered to vote in New Jersey because of a software error. Governor says I'm going to go ahead and say when the secretary of the DHS comes out and with all due respect, it was a fairly tepid press conference. But when he says, well, we're gonna withhold grants from your states if you don't cooperate, we will Pursue criminal action. It's interesting that.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
What is it?
Tim Pool
That was Friday and now it's Tuesday. And the governor's like, actually, yes, we have thousands of people who are not citizens registered to vote. It's not just that. 400 actually did the New York Times, roughly 400 non citizens cast ballots in New Jersey after about 6,600 residents were improperly registered. Here's what's crazy. These people explicitly wrote on their. I believe it was their driver's license forms. Correct? They wrote, not a citizen, and oopsie, they were entered into that system as citizens who can vote and registered. That is terrifying, because you know what that means. If these are the accidents, what is the intention? How many people who are not citizens said they were and how do you track them down? So I think this is the first thread we pull on, and I believe this is going to indicate there are going to be many others improperly registered to vote who are not eligible to vote because citizenship, that's just one factor. What about felons? What about people who are otherwise not eligible to vote who are inadvertently allowed to and are. I'm going to say it again. Don't come at me with that. It's only 400 people who voted in small localities. 400 is a lot. We're talking about certain elections. When you're talking about a comptroller, for instance, that could be 1,000 votes, especially if you're talking about small suburban areas of New Jersey. The question is, where were these non citizens concentrated? What elections did they vote in, and in what concentrations? I mean, if it's like 12 people here and there, perhaps, was that enough in a local election, actually change a state rep, a comptroller, a county administrator, or anything to that effect? And what does that mean for the people who live in that state? This opens a can of worms by which the dhs, the federal government, needs to go in and do a full sweep, figure out what else is going on. I'm glad they've admitted it, but I think this just opens a can of worms.
Matthew Farachi
You know where they can get all that data? Timing.
Tim Pool
Can they get it?
Matthew Farachi
They can buy it from China.
Tim Pool
Ah, yes, indeed.
Matthew Farachi
All they have to do is go to the Chinese and say, how many fake citizens do you have in your database? And we'll. We'll match it. They'll give us a discount, too. You know who. Do you guys know who Lorenzo Se is? He's the pastor that prayed at Trump's inauguration. Maybe the greatest prayer ever. Detroit pastor. He's got seven lawsuits he's filing that shows something similar to this that folks in his area, in Detroit and. And urban areas are. It gets even better. They're having people vote for them. Okay. They show up at the polls and say, and. And when they get there, they're told you already voted.
Libby Emmons
Really?
Matthew Farachi
Yeah. They're told you already voted. And apparently this is pretty widespread. I heard a bunch of other people talking about it too. And Lorenzo again has like seven, I think seven separate act legal actions. Because his point was, and I think this is brilliant, you can't prove Smartmatic, you can't prove Brazil, whatever tampering you can try, but you can prove a human being, a voter tied to a vote, didn't get to vote or somebody voted for them. That is the foolproof way to do it. I think that's fascinating.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, that's really wild.
Matthew Farachi
Super fascinating.
Libby Emmons
Could you imagine showing up at the polls and having them just tell you
Matthew Farachi
that you already voted, you already voted? And then they say, I didn't vote. Yes, you did.
Tim Pool
And we saw this in 2020. These things were never answered. There was that. What was he? He was from, like, Arizona or he was from Tennessee, I can't remember which state. He was on Laura Ingram show. And he said that according to the records in his home state, he had voted despite him being away for college. Someone voted in his name.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
And how. And they also discovered. The federal government discovered. What was it, thousands of people? Like, what was it, 400, 400,000 people who were dead who are on the voter rolls. Was it 400,000 some insane number?
Tim Pool
And the reason why that matters.
Libby Emmons
It was a huge number.
Tim Pool
It matters because when they issue universal mail in votes, this actually happened to us. And we were like. We were in New Jersey at the time and we had received a ballot for an individual who did not live at our house. And we were like, how does that happen? I live here. I'd lived there for. It would have been, I think at that point, two years. And they implement universal mail in voting recently. And then a ballot showed up for someone who didn't live there.
Phil
And who's to say that, you know, that doesn't happen at thousands of addresses across the. Across each state. And who's to say that those people don't fill those ballots out and send them in? You know, there's no way to check this stuff. The idea of sending. Of mailing ballots out and then having them mailed back in is just so ridiculous and so unserious in my opinion. I can't see why anyone Makes that.
Matthew Farachi
How racist is it to say that black folks and minorities can't get an id?
Libby Emmons
Never mind that women change their name when they get married, can't vote for some reason.
Matthew Farachi
Right.
Libby Emmons
Well, but no, the funny thing about the women thing is it's like those are mostly conservative women that change their name. So are the Democrats really saying that these conservative women.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, they only want, they only want hyphenated.
Phil
Even talking about the arguments that they make is giving them more credibility than they deserve. Right. Like even whether you're talking about, with the racism. We're talking about how, how bad it is to, you know, to how bad of your opinion, women must you be. These arguments are bullshit.
Libby Emmons
Well, you remember Kathy Hochul being like, black people don't know what computers.
Phil
Yeah. And, and, but the point, the point that I'm making is, is that's giving
Tim Pool
where the guy credit.
Matthew Farachi
You're right.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah. There's a guy whom an influencer made a video. He's a black dude and he's jumping around the computer and like hitting it with his hand.
Libby Emmons
What could it be?
Tim Pool
Files are inside. You know, I wonder if it's that Democrats are low. Like there's this data we'll get into a minute. They're low income, the highest propensity. Democrat voters are low income, high like postgraduate. I wonder if these are the people that live in white suburban areas and have never actually met minorities. So they are the like the benevolent racists and that's why they perpetuate these racist policies.
Libby Emmons
They also, you always hear these people sort of assume that people that they've never met are the ones who are having these kinds of problems. So they've never met anyone who's had trouble voting. They've never met a black person who can't get an id. They've never met a woman who can't figure out her ID after changing her name. They've never met any of these people, you know, who are like, in need of all these extra services or what. They don't know.
Phil
That's the thing.
Libby Emmons
They don't exist. It's a lie. And it's just these people who are, who are in need of believing that other people are, you know, desperate for their help.
Phil
There was no, there was a time where people would say, you know, people would get really, really worried about if someone calls you racist or whatever. And then people have kind of got to the point where they're like, I know I'm not racist. Why do I care? Right. This is only an attack giving credibility Giving. If you. And it. So if someone says that and you get defensive, you're giving that person credibility. You're saying, maybe, maybe you're right. Maybe there is something wrong with me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Get by. By acknowledging these arguments, we're giving them credibility. We're giving them the benefit.
Matthew Farachi
You're right.
Phil
We should totally reject and we shouldn't even bring up the arguments they make. We should reject them out of hand because they are absolutely bullshit. They're lies. And it's all to distract from the actual fact of. There is no legitimate argument against voter idea.
Matthew Farachi
Simple. Who.
Tim Pool
Who went.
Matthew Farachi
Who benefits if the voting rolls are muddy? And who benefits if it's honest voting?
Tim Pool
If you are?
Matthew Farachi
That's the question, right, Tim?
Tim Pool
If you want a real election, right, where you and your political rivals sit down and say, you know what? We'll vote and see who wins. You want clean voter rolls, voter security, voter ID and a handshake at the end. If you are trying to do something weird, you're going to obfuscate and say, well, it's illegal to vote anyway. This is, this is the stupidest argument. They say it's illegal for non citizens to vote. Why are we doing this? My response is murder is illegal too. We still put police outside of schools or banks or whatever because sometimes people commit crime.
Matthew Farachi
Right.
Libby Emmons
But you know, what do you guys make of the thing where the United States Postal Service was will be able to not deliver mail in or absence. Oh, let's go provide the eligible voter list to the government. I think that's totally.
Matthew Farachi
Whoa, that's phenomenal.
Tim Pool
And Trump just won this.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, Trump did an executive order it. They. The states took it to court and the court said, yeah, that's legit. You can do that. You can withhold it. If you can't get a reasonable list of voters, you can withhold sending them mail in ballots. Wow. Which really puts Washington state and a couple of other states, Colorado, where they only do mail in voting, they won't be able to vote because they're not sharing their voter rolls either.
Tim Pool
Well, you know what I realized is that there is absolutely no correlation between race, ethnicity or physical capabilities, height, intelligence or otherwise. We're all blank slates. So then I started to ask myself why it was Koreans tend to be so good at math and so smart. Kim Chi.
Libby Emmons
I think it's the fermented foods.
Tim Pool
It's gotta be the fermented foods.
Libby Emmons
That's all it is.
Tim Pool
We should just mandate everybody eat kimchi. I'm gonna Start a kimchi company.
Matthew Farachi
I'm sorry.
Tim Pool
I love kimchi.
Matthew Farachi
Korean movies. Come on, man. Korean movies are amazing.
Tim Pool
No, I jokingly bring that up because I was reading this thing today about kimchi and gut bacteria, and actually, like, not that it's gonna make you smarter, but that it clean. Gut bacteria makes you lose weight. It makes your brain less cloudy. And then I'm like, maybe. Maybe we just need, in all seriousness, not the kimchi things, just because I love kimchi, but, like, maybe one of the biggest problems we have with low propensity, or I shouldn't say low propensity voters, but low information voters and general ignorance in this country. And I think this is fairly obvious. It starts with diet, which is why Maha was so important in 2024. But I wonder if we talk about muddy elections. I wonder if a solution to everything is literally starting with Maha first. How do we get to that point where people are healthy? You know what I mean?
Libby Emmons
Well, this has been a first lady initiative for a long time. Like the healthy stuff, right? So, I mean, what was the sugar
Tim Pool
thing that Michelle Obama did?
Libby Emmons
Yeah, it was. Michelle Obama had the sugar thing. Meanwhile, you had Ronald Reagan saying ketchup is a vegetable for the purposes of schooling.
Tim Pool
But did he literally say that, or did they say that?
Libby Emmons
He didn't really say it.
Tim Pool
Cause remember when Congress said pizza was a vegetable? It's not real. What they did was they voted as to whether or not the amount of sauce on a slice of pizza constituted a serving of vegetables, and they determined it did. And then what you get in the media is they lie about everything, and
Phil
they're like, congress said pizza's a vegetable.
Tim Pool
No, they did not.
Libby Emmons
They said that. This. No, I mean, when I make pomodoro sauce at home or when I make pesto, that's the vegetable. Like, I don't add a vegetable. That's the vegetable.
Tim Pool
I heard kimchi also gets microplastics out of your system.
Matthew Farachi
Really?
Phil
Kimchi.
Matthew Farachi
Kimchi is great.
Tim Pool
I don't own a kimchi company, nor my sponsor, actually. No, we did have a sponsor that sold kimchi once.
Libby Emmons
Really?
Matthew Farachi
Yeah. I think you need to start one.
Tim Pool
When I was. Well, when I was little, I wasn't a big fan.
Libby Emmons
We'll just start burying in the yard.
Matthew Farachi
It's great.
Tim Pool
Until I. It's just so great.
Libby Emmons
It's great.
Tim Pool
I literally just brought up because. Because this conversation reminded me of this thing I was reading where it was like, the gut bacteria correlation between. Brain frog. Brain frog. You see, I. Brain fog. Right now. I Need some kids.
Libby Emmons
That's a new thing, a brain frog.
Tim Pool
But it was like I was reading thing about gut bacteria exercise. Like, you can just change your gut bacteria and all of a sudden you stop craving. Like, everyone's doing Ozempic and all this stuff. I'm just thinking like, I don't know, I'm in maha mode right now.
Matthew Farachi
Change your, your gut bacteria by not taking the antibiotics that they prescribe to you every 45 seconds. Every time you have a cold and they hit you with antibiotics and it knocks your gut. No.
Libby Emmons
Kimchi, though, is different. Like if you're, if you're sick in the winter and you have a kimchi stew, you're going to get better fat.
Tim Pool
It's a kimchi segment now.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, there we go.
Tim Pool
What is kimchi?
Libby Emmons
Kimchi is. It's.
Tim Pool
Wait, what? I don't know what it is.
Libby Emmons
It's fermented. Like cabbage.
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's got garlic, chili.
Libby Emmons
No, no, it's. It's super spicy cabbage.
Tim Pool
Super spicy.
Libby Emmons
Well, I'm a white person.
Phil
Says the Asian guy.
Matthew Farachi
It knocks you on your behind. Carter is.
Libby Emmons
You bury it. You bury it for a while.
Tim Pool
So it's like fermented.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, almost.
Tim Pool
It's wild.
Libby Emmons
So good.
Tim Pool
Weird food they eat over there. Like, do you ever watch soy sauce get made?
Libby Emmons
No, but it's fermented.
Tim Pool
You know, you take soybeans, you soak them overnight, you dry them out, you put flour on them, they mold. Then you put them in a jar, seal it and bury it and like three months later it turns into soy sauce.
Libby Emmons
But there's not, you know, there's not a lot of cheese in Asia.
Tim Pool
Yeah, you know, they just like, we're going to mold stuff.
Matthew Farachi
I think that's how they make members of Congress.
Tim Pool
Anyway, I totally derailed this conversation. Let's, let's, let's get back to the news. We got this post from Nick Sorter breaking. The DOJ has launched a full investigation into the state of New Jersey for unlawful dilution of America, American votes. Per aag. Dylan, DOJ is moving to force New Jersey to hand over a copy of their entire voter roll after admitting to enrolling fraudulent voters. So this is actually, we've got the, the announcement from Mickey Sherrill. It's crazy. They're coming out and admitting it, but I think they're. I, I gotta say, I wanna winning. I mean, hashtag winning, you know, Donald
Phil
Trump, for Donald Trump.
Tim Pool
They can complain about him all day, the media can lie all day. But when he came out, when Mark Wayne Mullen came out and said, we're going to cut funding from these states. We're going to cut your grants unless you do this. They bend the knee.
Matthew Farachi
Well, the other thing is Harmeet Dhillon is one of the most underappreciated and most serious people in the administration.
Libby Emmons
Oh, she is my favorite.
Matthew Farachi
Yes. Before.
Tim Pool
First of all, we loved her before she got in the.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah. First of all, I was going to say, first of all, she's got an iron. She's got an iron constitution. She's not afraid. I loved her when she, I tried to help her when she ran for RNC chair because she should have gotten that.
Libby Emmons
She got shafted.
Matthew Farachi
She got shafted. And then if you remember, before she was in doj, she was the lawyer for every conservative person that matched.
Libby Emmons
Started that she started a firm specifically to help conservatives.
Matthew Farachi
She's an incredible.
Libby Emmons
Impacted by free speech.
Matthew Farachi
Incredible lady.
Libby Emmons
And she is, she represented Andy.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah. And she's getting, she's scoring so much, so many wins.
Phil
She's a bulldog on the Second Amendment.
Matthew Farachi
Total bulldog. Yeah.
Phil
Love it.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Phil
I just treats the Second Amendment like it's any other civil right. It's, it's not treated like a second class right.
Tim Pool
I mean, I wish she was just ag.
Libby Emmons
I mean, Blanche isn't bad, but Harmeet is a killer.
Tim Pool
I'm actually, I'm a fan. I'm a fan of Blanche. He's. I don't want to call him vanilla pudding, you know, like J.D. vance. I call vanilla pudding. It's not an insult. Vanilla pudding is delicious. It's just, you know.
Matthew Farachi
But Harmony, Dylan is kimchi.
Tim Pool
Yes, she's kimchi.
Matthew Farachi
We're gonna make kimchi now. Like Tim. It's gonna be like a thing, like a virtue. Like, like when we say fire, we're just gonna say just kimchi. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Well, Todd, Blanche is not so much vanilla pudding. He's got a little, a little, you know, some, some rainbow sprinkles on top. It's a little bit more than vanilla because he gets a little bit more aggressive and I appreciate it.
Libby Emmons
He's got some New York litigator in there.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
But, you know, like, vanilla pudding isn't an insult. When I say JD Vance is a vanilla, that's a good thing. It's like, I think that we're, we're, we have, we have great prospects in 2028. If it's Rubio has been very, very good and JD Vance has been very good. And I think vanilla pudding can go, can go a long way with the American voter.
Matthew Farachi
Maybe vanilla pudding with a little cinnamon in it describes Todd Blanche.
Tim Pool
Wow, bro. Rice pudding with a little cinnamon on top.
Phil
Rubio, actually.
Libby Emmons
So long as you skip the raisins. I don't like the raisins.
Tim Pool
No raisins.
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Tim Pool.
Matthew Farachi
The food edition of Tim Pool Food.
Tim Pool
Yeah, but you're right.
Phil
Surprisingly good.
Libby Emmons
Crazy.
Phil
Rubio's been surprising.
Tim Pool
I know. Rubio has been fantastic.
Phil
He's. He's really. He's really signed on to the. The agenda the president has set.
Matthew Farachi
Rubio. Yeah, like really well before. There's nobody that can articulate oh yeah. Conservative principles better than Rubio right now.
Libby Emmons
One of the things too that you can tell he's Gen X is he does 15 different jobs and he still shows up looking good.
Phil
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
And he's got like every job in the administration.
Matthew Farachi
Sorry.
Phil
Could learn something in the Gen X
Matthew Farachi
is the only generation that knows how to do anything.
Phil
Well, I mean, I'm Gen X myself, but Fetterman could learn him as an honorary Gen X.
Tim Pool
Isn't it wild? Fetterman saying he might quit the Democratic Party as well.
Libby Emmons
I really thought that was interesting. And over Israel, his I. Look, you think DSA too.
Tim Pool
I think that's part of the DSA stuff is completely. Well put this. I believe it is a requirement if you are a regular American of any political persuasion. I mean, obviously not a common. If you're communist, you love it. But for like the liberals, they should be saying no to the dsa.
Libby Emmons
Well, they've been trying. They. They like sort of vaguely milquetoast tried to say no to the dsa.
Phil
Right.
Libby Emmons
You had what's his name? You can't even remember his name anymore. Hakeem Jeffries coming out, sort of vaguely not endorsing. But once you had AOC on board with all of these people and then Mamdani won New York, suddenly the DSA is ascendant.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
And the thing about the DSA is they don't care about the Democrat Party. They just want to use the machine of the Democrat Party to get their candidates in. And you see. What's her name? Marat K. Malat Kiros.
Tim Pool
Yeah. In Colorado.
Libby Emmons
Colorado. She's a crazy person. What's his name? El Sayed in Michigan.
Matthew Farachi
Michigan. He's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. Claire. Claire Valdez and Dariel Lisa Chevalier in New York. And these are all people who legit want to federalize housing.
Tim Pool
They want like abolish the Senate.
Libby Emmons
They want to abolish the Senate.
Tim Pool
You don't even realize that you can't abolish The Senate.
Phil
Article 5 of the Constitution. The only clause that cannot be changed by. By an amendment is the votes of the Senate. You can't change it without getting rid of the whole Constitution.
Tim Pool
That's kind of the point, though, isn't it?
Phil
Well, yes, that is.
Matthew Farachi
Thank you.
Libby Emmons
AOC said that it was Jim Crow, and you're like, the Senate, she's an imbecile. And it was Jim Crow. And it's like, no, Jim Crow was, you know, way later than the Senate. The Senate was already in place. And they have, they have this. They have this notion that the Senate was created for rich people, when really the Senate was created for their favorite thing of all, which is equity between the states.
Matthew Farachi
Yes, that's right.
Phil
The people that are critical of the Senate, specifically on the left, are absolute imbeciles. They're either dishonest or they're complete imbeciles. They're dishonest about their belief of what the Senate is supposed to do, or they're just too isolating ignorant. Yeah, it's incredible that, again, the one thing that you can't change in the Constitution with an amendment is the Senate. And they're just like, oh, we should get rid of the Senate, you people. To Tim's point, and to be fair, they actually do want to get rid of the whole.
Matthew Farachi
They want to get rid of.
Tim Pool
Yeah, I have to. I just don't understand the Israel stuff. And what I mean by this is,
Phil
read the chat, I'll tell you about it.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah, no, my point is Fetterman's like, I refuse to be a member of a party that becomes the anti Israel party. And my attitude is like, I have no problem if you like or even don't like Israel. My question is, why is that Fetterman's line? Why is that his red line? And for that matter, if this is so extremely important to both Democrats and Republicans at the highest level, I feel like they're not actually doing much about the issue of the US alliance with Israel other than ignoring the populists who are critical of it and just trying to ram through an agenda that is supportive of Israel.
Libby Emmons
I will say I thought J.D. vance made a really good point on Rogan when he was talking about this last week and he said, said Israel's an ally. I support our allies, but it's not like it shouldn't be a ride or die situation.
Phil
That's Japan should be the ride or die.
Tim Pool
That's what I mean.
Matthew Farachi
Like Japan.
Phil
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
You know, is Japan right or first of all, first of all, if you remember, Ronald Reagan said, I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me.
Tim Pool
Indeed.
Matthew Farachi
I think that's where Fetterman is. One of the reasons Fetterman may be saying this. I met with a China expert when I was in London recently. This lady's very renowned and she said, do you know where all the Israel stuff's coming from? And I said, well, yeah, Qatar, Iran, whatever. She said, thank you. She said, small, small beans. It's coming from the ccp because they see it's dividing the country.
Phil
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
And well, well, they're pouring fire on it.
Tim Pool
It's not just that China's been. This is so ridiculous. I get these, these people spamming on X saying that I've, I. They say that I flip flopped because I've claimed Trump's war with Iran is 5D chess or whatever, which I haven't. But these people live in an absolutist world where if you are explaining a thing happening, it's support of it, unless you attack them. So here's the issue China has been cut off from. We have the hard number now, 44% of their oil imports at the start of the war with Iran. I am not suggesting it's good that we went to war with Iran or that we should persist. Actually, I think it would be good if we wound these things down. I think a lot of Americans agree, but it is true. China's been cut off. Now China stands to gain if they cause political turmoil inside the country, which involves severing our relationship with Israel.
Matthew Farachi
Yep.
Tim Pool
That is not praise of Israel. This is a fact statement about the US alliance with Israel and the military operations in the Middle east that have negatively impacted China and why China stands to gain if they get in the way of that. You are still allowed to not like Israel.
Matthew Farachi
Can I.
Tim Pool
That's not the point.
Matthew Farachi
Can I take the bullets for you, Tim? I'll praise Israel in this way. I will openly praise Israel for this reason. The us, when we did go to war with Iran, find, found out very quickly that all these allies that we thought we had that normally would at least, you know, come help the Gulf states with air defense or something, couldn't. The, the British couldn't get a ship out. The French, I don't even want to mention it. All our quote, unquote NATO allies couldn't figure out how to do anything. It's in their economic interest not to have the oil cut off because a lot of the oil goes to Europe. Doesn't really Affect the US except it raises our oil.
Tim Pool
We become, we've become the dominant energy exporter.
Matthew Farachi
Right.
Tim Pool
Despite the war being a net negative across the board, it has dramatically injured China. They're switching to electric vehicles now. And mass. They are panicking. They're tapping into like, what is it? The energy reserves across the board. They set this thing up knowing that this was a choke point for them and they're hurt by it. Again, if there are people. You know why. I'm just done with all the fake drama stuff on the Internet.
Matthew Farachi
It's such fake drama, like the Charlie thing.
Tim Pool
Because if I were to sit down, I can sit down with Dave Smith or Scott Horton and we can have a normal conversation about Israel.
Phil
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And they're going to be heated and they're going to. And they're not, they're not fans. But at the end of it, we're having beers or eating pizza. Everything's fine. The Internet drama stuff is nowhere near there. It's like people are going to stab each other over these political issues.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
This is not real.
Matthew Farachi
Don't you think that. Look, I say this. I was friends with Charlie. You were friends with Charlie. Don't you think that all this Charlie stuff is. Has hit that level or beyond?
Tim Pool
Oh, you know what, let's do this. I have a tweet. Let's pull it up.
Libby Emmons
Let's get tweet, by the way.
Tim Pool
Well, because I, I'm just. I made a segment about Brett Weinstein because he had, he had made a comment. Let me see if I can find this post.
Libby Emmons
He was getting piled on today. I didn't, I didn't.
Tim Pool
Well, this is what it was largely about. Let me, let me pull in this tweet and then I'll talk about it. Right. So I said, if you want to get amplified on YouTube and X, all you need to do is claim the official story of Charlie Kirk's assassination is a cover up and there's a conspiracy. Why is social media amplifying this so much? Why does Big Tech want this narrative to be front and center? Alex Jones made claims about Sandy Hook and was destroyed. His company sold off to try to humiliate him. What's the difference? You can claim one story is true, but the other results in your company's total annihilation. YouTube has rules around conspiracies. Specifically, they restrict conspiracy claims and amplify what they call authoritative news sources. Why is YouTube boosting these videos in the algorithm? Why does the machine want this narrative so badly? Contrast this with COVID You get demonetized instantly. If you talked about COVID In the early days, we couldn't even read news reports out of China that discussed the basics. Now let me stress In January of 2020, on my Tim Cast channel, we saw videos of people in China collapsing. I saw a news report, it was not big news. And I said, I'll do a video about this. Sounds interesting. I got. I got an email from YouTube, a rep, saying, you cannot cover this, and demonetized the video, no joke. And I went, wow. Well, you know what I'm going to do?
Libby Emmons
I guess you're onto something.
Tim Pool
No, no, I just said they were like, we don't want sensationalism and fear and panic. I said, well, I'm going to cover the news even if I lose the money. So I kept reporting. When it popped up by March, it was a big story in the United States during this period for two years. If you said definitively that the virus came from the Wuhan lab, demonetized, strike removed. YouTube came out and said, we have a new policy in place. Only authoritative news sources will appear in search on these topics overnight. They erased podcasts. Alex Jones is not allowed to have a channel. He can't even have a new channel. His transgression was so severe, he is never allowed to have a social media channel on YouTube ever again. Yet despite the fact that if it comes to climate change. Yeah, flat earth, hollow earth. Yeah, geocentrism. YouTube explicitly states all of these will be deranked, demonetized, and they will put corrections under every single one. But not the Charlie Kirk conspiracies. Why don't those have a free pass?
Matthew Farachi
What was your. Why did you have an answer to your own question?
Tim Pool
I can say this, I can peddle in speculation, for which I believe that, sure, that's fine. Everyone's allowed to present their hypotheses. What I can say is there is no definitive understanding as to why YouTube and lesser X. Because Elon lost a lot of things on X. But why it is that YouTube is has. Look, I'm put it this way, it's not just a lack of restrictions, it's promotion. The RPMs on content related to Erica Kirk and the Charlie Kirk assassination, conspiracy theories rivals that of finance, the most lucrative sector in advertising.
Libby Emmons
Why?
Tim Pool
I don't.
Matthew Farachi
Okay, so look, it's always the simple. It's always a simple answer. I'm going to go out there on a limb, Tim. It hurts the right. It's right on right. It's right on right. Violence. The lefties aren't arguing about Charlie Kirk, they don't care. They're glad he's gone.
Tim Pool
But no, they're loving it as well.
Matthew Farachi
Because it hurts the right.
Tim Pool
Because here's the way it works. And I would say this is an excellent hypothesis for a lot of these people on the right. They are grifters. No joke. I believe there is a tendency on the left, or I should say it's a generality on the left and a tendency on the right. Maybe that's. No, that's about right.
Matthew Farachi
No, the left is committed to what they believe.
Tim Pool
Some people on the right, the algorithm are grifters. Most people on the left I would describe as grifters. Yep. Meaning that many of these liberals that claim to want to debate you have to pay them. They're not interested in actually an ideology. They're interested in their jobs. Whereas people on the right are begging to espouse their ideology. But this does mean that there are many people on the right who are grifters. Now here's the exploit. Create a lucrative path. But. But that path is insanity and absurdity. And you will drive all of the grifters in that direction and it will cause a rift among the right instead of unity on the right.
Matthew Farachi
If you take away Libby, I know you're going to back me on this. If you take away Israel and Charlie Kirk, what does Candace have to talk about?
Tim Pool
Ryan McCrone, Brian Reynolds.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, I know. Yeah. Le Pen is going to be. Le Pen's going to be running France. Please God.
Tim Pool
And, and, and who is Reinholds wife?
Libby Emmons
Ryan Reynolds.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Candace's big thing was Ryan Reynolds, the actress that.
Phil
Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Farachi
That sued Justin Baldoni.
Tim Pool
I even know you're talking lively. That was her big thing. And then she did the Macron stuff and then we get the Charlie stuff. And it's just every day it one ups the absurdity and the lies and the manipulations. And what they do is I have no problem with anyone asking questions about the Tyler Robinson, how he did it, who else may have been involved. There's a lot of evidence in loose ends. They've not been tied up. And we don't. We have no obligation to just believe whatever it is the FBI of law enforcement is telling us. I want to see the evidence. So present for me anything positive and we'll go in that direction.
Libby Emmons
What they'll do is there's hours of evidence presented during the preliminary hearing.
Tim Pool
Yeah, indeed.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And so I think it's fair to say that we have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, at least in my Opinion presented the public that Tyler Robinson is the assassin. However, I also think there's other people involved. I think we've got loose ends that we can't account for. And I think those questions are fine and fair. That being said, the narratives that we've gotten. I think it was Robby Starbuck put out a great video an hour long where he broke down. Yeah. The conspiracy theories from seven months ago, they're all pretending like they never said. And now they've got the man in the bushes.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
What about the man in the bushes? There was, there was a bush, remember? Oh, but actually Charlie was killed by the lav Mike. But there was a man in the bushes with a gun.
Matthew Farachi
The self exploding.
Tim Pool
Yeah, it's because. Well, I'm just asking questions. Right. The problem is the questions imply. So Bret Weinstein got a lot of flack because he said, why the COVID up? Implying there is one.
Libby Emmons
Right.
Tim Pool
When there's no evidence of one.
Libby Emmons
There hasn't been any indication that there's a cover up. Everything has been so open.
Tim Pool
There are unanswered questions.
Matthew Farachi
You're bringing up a very important point about why isn't the conspiracies from months ago it's the same thing.
Tim Pool
They've been erased because.
Matthew Farachi
Well, because the. That you got your algorithm boost from doing that. That's over. You got to find a new outrage. Isn't it that simple?
Tim Pool
Yeah, I think, I mean you can
Libby Emmons
go look at every single court document that's been filed. You just create an account with the Utah court. I have right now.
Tim Pool
Here's, here's what I said earlier today when I was talking about these, this drama, these grifters. When, when the Covington kids. Seven years ago. Was it seven years ago? That crazy?
Libby Emmons
Yes, like that.
Tim Pool
When that video went viral and there were even conservatives condemning this kid.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
And he was just standing there. He didn't say a word.
Tim Pool
I got sent these videos and I was told like, bro, you see this? You got to call this kid out. And I said, I don't understand what's happening.
Libby Emmons
What did he do?
Tim Pool
And they were like, he's got in the face of this Native American and
Libby Emmons
he's working standing there.
Tim Pool
And I responded, this is a video of two people standing in front of each other. I don't know who did what. Most people jumped the gun and just assumed this, this young kid, this teenager got in his face.
Libby Emmons
What did they say? They said he was magical face. They said he was stupid.
Tim Pool
They were gonna punch. We found the video, the full livestream video. And then I made it, made a segment. I was like, this is what really happened. The Native American walked up to him. I do not come out and just say a thing is. Because everyone says a thing is. And so what's happening now with all of this stuff? I still will not do that. I will not come out and say this is true. That is true. Otherwise. But because they're getting clicks. Because YouTube is promoting it.
Matthew Farachi
Yep.
Tim Pool
And they're getting massive ad dollars from it. People don't care what's true. They're going after what makes money.
Matthew Farachi
Do you know Lucas? Do you know Lucas Miles? Anybody runs Turning Point? Faith. Lucas tweeted today something along the lines of, this is like news porn.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
You know, like, it's just.
Tim Pool
It's one upping it every day.
Matthew Farachi
Because it's just news porn.
Libby Emmons
It's like when Baby Jessica fell down the well and no one could.
Tim Pool
Look, I will. I will say there is the worst thing to have happened to the populist right, which includes the moderates who align with Trump and even libertarians. The worst thing was the assassination of Charlie Kirk, who unified so many people.
Matthew Farachi
Yes, he did.
Tim Pool
Getting people like Ian on stage with people like Michael Knowles, like, you've got staunch Catholics, you got whackaloon hippie moon lords like Ian, anarchists like Luke Cenk Uygur was at Turning Point. Charlie was a.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
Was a.
Tim Pool
Was this powerful guy after we lost him. I'm just going to go ahead and say this. I have questions. I have a question for you. Maybe you can help me out here, Matthew. Why. Why did Candace go down this route where she is doing seemingly everything, whether intentionally otherwise, to destroy Turning Point? Now, that's a speculative question. You can only surmise as to her emotional state. But why is it that after knowing a guy for 17 days and never having been on a date with him, she married him off a phone call? Who happens. So she meets a guy, they didn't go on a single date, and then she marries into a family of British lords, and her lawyers work in a building with federal agents in Delaware. I'm just wondering why that is.
Libby Emmons
You're just asking questions.
Tim Pool
I'm just asking. I mean, these are legitimate questions. These are not joke questions. They're not. This is. This is true. Candace Owens lawyers work out of the same building as the federal agent's office in Delaware. And that was. That was a huge story at the time. And the story of her marriage to George is that they met within 17 days after having never been on a date. He Called her and said let's get married. He said yes. So she married into a family of British lords, ultra wealthy, hired lawyers who work at a building with federal agents and immediately started attacking Turning Point's management, their executive staff and now is accusing Charlie's own wife. I tell you this, the two worst things to have ever happened to the populist, right. First obviously the death of Charlie.
Matthew Farachi
Yes.
Tim Pool
But following this, everything Candace has done has been a volley of assaults on the right to the point where in December, replying to me, she said, quote, we don't care about your midterms. When I said what she is doing is demoralizing.
Matthew Farachi
First of all, who's we?
Tim Pool
Well, that's what she does.
Matthew Farachi
Who's your but Candace? First of all, Tim, Candace is not part of the right. Second of all, I don't know if you guys knew this, but George, who I get along with just fine. George's father in, in the UK is the head of the Christian Jewish Alliance. So he actually came out and had to distance himself from his crazy daughter in law on X.
Tim Pool
And basically I don't, I just, I
Matthew Farachi
think saying crazy stuff.
Tim Pool
Why did they get married?
Matthew Farachi
It's, it's, it's a question. And also she, here's another question. She converted to Catholicism recently.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
Michael Knowles is hard to get a divorce.
Libby Emmons
Children.
Tim Pool
Really.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
What they're friends.
Matthew Farachi
But I guess the other question is everything's fake. Tim, you don't actually consider. Here's a question to your question. Do you consider Candace and Tucker to be on the right? Because I'd say if I looked at what they say, I'd put them on the left.
Tim Pool
I, I got his argument with Kyla Turner. I said Candace is a liberal because leftist. Yeah, well I don't know about a leftist. My point is when you look at her career holistically, she has been moderate liberal the whole time. She was anti conservative. She had social autopsy, she doxed people on the right. She was very woke. Then she joins Daily Wire and has this brief period which was only a few years where her politics seemed to invert. But now she's back to Republicans are bad all over again. And her audience consists largely of white liberal women, which is why she has the Stanley mug and all of that stuff. Now Tucker I would say is right. He's just different. Right. And he's been praising J.D. vance. So for whatever his stance is, I find Tucker to be dishonorable and I would say it to his face. I'm not saying that.
Matthew Farachi
But when you say right Tim one, one question I have is when I listen to.
Tim Pool
Well, right, right.
Matthew Farachi
Doesn't mean his economic policies seem to me to be very social.
Phil
The economic.
Tim Pool
Because they're different spectrums.
Phil
The economic vector right now is very, particularly with young people. Like, it's almost like the only people that are fiscally conservative at all are like the libertarian people, the people on the right that are not libertarian aligned. Like, it's almost like everyone has thrown their hands up in the air and said the government's never going to be fiscally responsible. Doesn't matter if it's Republicans, it doesn't matter if it's Republicans or Democrats. They're never going to actually fix the, they're never actually going to fix. They're never actually going to fix the problems. You're just going to $39 trillion in debt. Like, it's never going to happen. So that, so if that's the case, riches. If that's the case, then there is no point in trying to even speak to people, the American public, voting public. There's no point in even trying to speak to people about fiscal, fiscal conservatism. It's better to. Gonna drive because they, because everyone's heard it, everyone knows. No one's, no one believes it. So it's better to go to, to another way to court the right. And I mean, look, personally I think that it's bad, but at the end of the day, nowadays you've got people on the right that are like, look, there should be social programs for Americans. For they're the nationalist right. Some people would say that they're, they're. Some people call them the Nazis or whatever, but like the people, the people. I don't know what the hell. All right, I'm not sure what that means, but either way, the point that I'm making is people like Nick Fuentes, they're like, we'll spend money on Americans, right? And then you've got the left, which are completely and totally down for socialism. So the idea of an actual conservative, an economically conservative right wing, that's. That's old hat. That's boomer stuff. And it's going away because even those boomers don't actually believe in social conservatism because they said, I paid into Social Security and I want my money. So they don't care about fixing.
Matthew Farachi
And we all know we're not getting Social Security.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, it's not happening. The boomers aren't going to give up the money that they're supposed to get for, for Social Security. They, even though they've, they're never, they didn't pay in as much as they owe and they know that Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are the drivers of our debt.
Tim Pool
But the reason we're not going to get Social Security, we may all agree we're not, but I think we're not going to get from different. We're not going to get it for different reasons that you think.
Matthew Farachi
I think we're going to, it's going to collapse.
Tim Pool
I think we're gonna be too busy scavenging the refuse of rubble war torn cities and making makeshift armor and avoiding the radioactive. I'm half kidding, but I think that we're looking at potential war with China which is going to dramatically alter our economic systems when we enter a wartime economy. I think that the probability of war with China is extremely high.
Matthew Farachi
Well, don't you think we're at war with China already?
Tim Pool
Yes, but it's not kinetic.
Matthew Farachi
It's a cold war. Right.
Tim Pool
And they've been stealing our ip. They've been trying to manipulate us.
Matthew Farachi
They're arming Iran right now.
Tim Pool
Indeed. And Trump's war with Iran has cut off China from 40 plus 44%. That's the hard number. We have the hard number. So we speculated as this. We now know definitively that China has lost 44% of its oil imports since the start of this war. They're not going to sit around forever because they know they're getting choked out. So I think in the next few years, the probability of a large scale kinetic conflict with China is highly probable. We will shift to a wartime economy which is going to dramatically change everything. Social Security may not even exist at that point. They're going to say, nope, we're putting money in copper at this point. Sorry, old folks, I'm going to invest
Matthew Farachi
in the Japanese robot armies, which I think are going to.
Tim Pool
I recommend that you invest in bullets. Lockheed, Northrop, Grumman, you know, all them good things.
Phil
It's not a bad idea to have, you know, some food stored up and some way to purify water and have
Tim Pool
some, you know, LifeStraw is.
Matthew Farachi
Yes, LifeStraw is amazing.
Tim Pool
We have a bunch of those. You know what was really funny? We've been talking about this for years. Let me ask you this question. What is something that is seemingly innocuous, that would be extremely hard for an individual to produce? It's something that is not particularly valuable now, but in a war economy or a fractured collapsed country, it would be
Matthew Farachi
the most valuable thing besides water.
Tim Pool
Well, you get water from a well.
Matthew Farachi
Okay.
Tim Pool
I'm talking about. We went over this quite a bit. Like something that's extremely difficult to produce on your own, but extremely easy and worthless right now that you could buy a lot of. So I have an answer because we went over this years ago. But I'm curious what you think like the point being like, let's have the factory shut down. Amazon's gone. And you're like, man, I'm thinking something
Matthew Farachi
in the medicine category worry. Is that what you're getting at?
Libby Emmons
So antibiotics would be useful.
Tim Pool
They expire. But yes, we. We settle on antiseptics. They're dirt cheap. They're. It's pennies for gallons. But it's not particularly easy.
Libby Emmons
Like Lysol kind of thing.
Tim Pool
Mouthwash.
Libby Emmons
Mouthwash. Right. That makes sense.
Tim Pool
And like hydrogen peroxide and stuff.
Libby Emmons
Or what?
Tim Pool
You know, honey.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, right, right. For anything. A cut, anything like that.
Libby Emmons
Rubbing alcohol.
Tim Pool
Alcohol period. Would also be. So you can. Getting alcohol is not particularly difficult to
Libby Emmons
like figure out how to distill.
Tim Pool
Yeah. And you'll need. You'll need glass and on your own in the middle of the woods. Not super easy to do.
Matthew Farachi
I did bring you some scotch, so I did my job.
Tim Pool
Well, it depends on the alcohol, you know, by volume. And scotch typically does not have. Although it can be used as antithetic for sure.
Phil
Everclear is the key also.
Matthew Farachi
Tim, what about Ivermectin?
Tim Pool
Moonshine?
Matthew Farachi
It's pretty cheap right now for animals and stuff.
Tim Pool
And it's as an anti parasitic. That is a nuclear bomb in a post apocalypse.
Matthew Farachi
Yep.
Tim Pool
Post apocalyptic world there. Yeah.
Libby Emmons
I actually wonder that bullets.
Tim Pool
But everybody knows bullets.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. I don't know that we're. That bolts will be currency to such things.
Phil
The joke was that 77 grain OTM.
Tim Pool
The joke is that after the apocalypse when bolts become currency, I'm gonna go to Phil's store and like, you know, there'll be customers shopping as a grocery store. And I'll be like, yeah, just the. The onions and the gallon of milk. And Phil's gonna be like, that's gonna be 1,000 grain. And I'll be like, all right. And I'm gonna pull out a handful of bullets and I'm gonna count the grain and be like, all right. And then I'm gonna hand them a couple 9 mil and maybe a 50 BMG. And then he'll be like, I can't give you change for the 50. And it's like, okay, hold on. What about 2 308? Oh, yeah. I can break that takes a 300 and he gives you two 9 millimeters.
Matthew Farachi
You know, it'd be interesting to look
Libby Emmons
at when the toilet paper was currency.
Matthew Farachi
Yes, that's right. It'd be interesting to look at Ukraine, which is a war torn country and what the economy is like there and what people are trading and what people are.
Phil
I don't know that Ukraine, I mean the concept of the US being in some kind of serious war that requires the kind of sacrifices that Americans made in World War II. That is totally different than a regional war in Ukraine. Like the people in Ukraine, where I'm sure they have to make sacrifices, I'm sure that it's hard living in that, in that under those conditions. But at the same time there's a whole world that's pouring and also functioning normally. Right, right. Like if the US and China were to get into a conflict, the whole world changes because China is, you know, China sells everything to everybody, whether it be high quality stuff or not, whether you like the quality of the things you're getting. But like if China got into a war, like all the women across the west are going to hate that they can't get their she in orders.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
Right.
Phil
Like stuff like that. It's going to affect the whole world where it's. Whereas Ukraine, it might affect region, might affect people regionally, but I mean in the US people don't actually see anything. And if you have, you know, the two biggest economies on earth in a hot conflict, it's going to affect everybody, you know, in ways that we can't predict.
Matthew Farachi
Don't you think that that's part of our problem as Americans is that we haven't really had to feel any pain? People in other countries do. Oh, bro, we're soft. We're naive.
Tim Pool
The GDP per capita in the US is $94,000. Yeah, I'm not suggesting everybody lives at that level. Some people live less. But we have clean running water, hot showers. We live like kings relative to the rest of the world.
Matthew Farachi
Of course we do and we complain about it.
Libby Emmons
Well, that's one thing that I think is so interesting about. You have AOC and others in the DSA advocating to Melat Karos, I think advocating to increase the what's considered poverty. So right now poverty is three times the cost of food. If that's what you have as income, if that's what you have, then you're considered living in poverty. And they want to adjust that so that it's not just three times the cost of food, but child cost of child care, housing, and health care. So that the. What they were saying is poverty should be minimum or you should be making. If you're making $45,000 a year, they want you to be considered in poverty. And I think that's absolutely insane. I mean, my first job out of college, I was making $17,000 a year, and I was not living in poverty. I had, like a nice apartment. I always had fresh food. There was never any issue. I did whatever I wanted, you know, I mean, $45,000, like, it's not a ton of money, but it's definitely not poverty, poverty, poverty.
Matthew Farachi
Libby is only getting an iPhone 17 and not getting an iPhone 17.
Tim Pool
It's just relative. Every year that life improves, and I
Libby Emmons
don't think that's at all reasonable.
Tim Pool
Depending where you are, you feel impoverished.
Phil
The average income in the UK right in US dollars is $4,300 a month. So that would put most of the UK.
Tim Pool
I just think that, oh, Japan, our. Our monthly salaries on average are like four times higher than the Japanese.
Libby Emmons
Mississippi, which is the lowest GDP in the country, still has higher GDP than many, many nations.
Phil
All of Europe.
Libby Emmons
All of Europe, yes. That's what it is.
Phil
In fact, the UK is the. The median is 3089.
Libby Emmons
So could you imagine the median income
Phil
driving UK is less than the money
Libby Emmons
that you're driving a used car, you're living in an apartment, you're eating fresh food, you're getting to your job, you have health care, housing, you have a big screen tv, you have an iPhone, you have whatever you need, you're still going to get. You know, you're still going out to dinner once a week. And somehow that's poverty. I mean, when Lyndon Johnson did his war on poverty, there were people sewing patches on their patches and starving. Yeah, like, that's what poverty was, Libby.
Matthew Farachi
That was the war on white privilege. Just to be just.
Tim Pool
Well, it's like that Caleb Hammer clip where the socialist says he asked her, how many people do you believe are reliant on federal minimum wage? And she goes, 30%. He's like, it's less than 1%. Like, we are a wealthy nation, super rich. We're super rich, and nobody's got purpose. Walk into the grocery store, kids. No faith.
Libby Emmons
No. Like, if you walk into any grocery store, not just the, like, fancy grocery stores, but any little grocery store, a bodega in New York City. The bounty is like, inc. I'm. I'm constantly amazed by this. I don't know why exactly, but I've always been really just blown away by the amount of fresh produce we have in the grocery store. Like you walk in, it's. It's absolutely stunning to see drag.
Phil
When I go to the grocery store and I can't get cherries because they're out of season. Like the idea of getting like, you
Tim Pool
know, there are like five, there are like five different brands of pre made guacamole at our Food lion. It's just.
Matthew Farachi
And Food Lion's the low budge grocery store. Exactly.
Tim Pool
It's not bad.
Matthew Farachi
It's a perfect little. I'm saying that's the bounty. That's the bounty.
Libby Emmons
You're not even at the Wegmans.
Tim Pool
So I think it's fair to say
Libby Emmons
that not the fancy grocery store.
Tim Pool
There are people that are struggling. And though we have a lot of choices in the grocery store, we still have high rents and expensive houses. So while we are wealthier relative to the world. I understand that people don't want to be stressed 24, 7 because they're living paycheck to paycheck. I understand that. But I'm just saying, I think the bigger issue actually is no kids. People used to work a lot more because they had kids. Now they work just enough and they're unhappy and they have no purpose.
Matthew Farachi
No 100%. I think if you don't have kids, you have no idea how selfish of a person you are. Having kids teaches you unselfishness, selflessness, because you're living your life for somebody else. And every action that you take is for.
Tim Pool
You know what I think?
Phil
Because change that.
Tim Pool
I think I've got some friends and I've talked to some people who are middle aged and they don't have families and have wives and have kids and they are listless and they're rather nihilistic. And you know what I think? I think there's actually a tendency among humans around middle age to kind of be bored. But here's the thing. I'm relatively bored in a certain sense. And that is I've been to maybe like 38 different countries. There's just some countries I don't care to go to. I've went to most of the countries that I ever want to go to.
Matthew Farachi
And son is really nice this time of year.
Tim Pool
I tried to go for Vice. We were, you know, because Vice had done a bunch of these.
Matthew Farachi
Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah.
Tim Pool
But we never, we never got close to doing it. They wanted me to go to Eritrea, but I don't really have interest in those countries. Let me just say I have, you know, there are still things that I want to do, there are still passions that I have, but for the most part it's. I've seen the movie a thousand times, I've been to the bar a thousand times. So, you know, to a certain respect, much of this has become mundane. But I have a wife and I have a daughter and there's something interesting that happens. Let me put it like this. I think on average your middle aged person is going to be listless, purposeless, and rather nihilistic to a certain degree. I'm not saying completely. Not everybody is. Now, if you have no family, what does that translate into?
Matthew Farachi
No purpose.
Tim Pool
Depression.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Anger. Now what if you have a family? It transforms itself into duty.
Matthew Farachi
Yep.
Tim Pool
I am not concerned with whether or not I'm gonna take a luxury cruise vacation. Been there, done that. I am not concerned about flying first class Japan to go explore Tokyo. Been there, done that. See, now I'm dying. So my point is, at my age, I've skated a million times. I've watched every skate video. I've done all the tricks that I can do. I've played probably millions of hands of poker. I've played all of these different games in sports and done all these things. And so it's kind of like a. Oh, yeah, you know, I could, I guess, But I have a family that needs to be taken care of. And now my concerns shift to them. But what if you don't have that? You're just like, I really don't care for life. Okay, well then you just have listless, angsty and depressive middle aged people. And I think there's a lot of millennials who don't have kids, who don't, don't have.
Libby Emmons
Well, and also, and also they have this, they have this misplaced maternal and paternal instinct where they think that what they, where they don't know what to do with all of these feelings and they start voting. So they start voting and take care of all of the, you know, little people around them who they think are so impoverished because they only make 45 grand a year.
Tim Pool
I read a crazy story, Big Brothers,
Matthew Farachi
Big Sisters, that was like, right?
Tim Pool
Or American Communist.
Libby Emmons
And that's the problem.
Tim Pool
I read the story and it was a, it was a PSA from an organization that tries to bring awareness to parents leaving their kids in their cars. Yeah, it was a horror story. It was the most terrifying story I've read.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, this guy just got stoned and left his daughter in the car and she.
Tim Pool
This story is worse than that. A husband, husband and wife Took turns dropping the kid off at daycare. One day the wife had to go into work, so she asked the husband, although it was her day, to do it, can you drop our young toddler son off at daycare? And he said, yeah, you got it. I'll do it before work. So he leaves, and a few hours later she gets a call from the daycare saying they never arrived. So she calls her husband. He doesn't answer. And she texts him saying, where are you? And he says, I'm at work. And she says, where is our son? And he doesn't get back to her. The next text she gets is, go to the hospital. The dad, it wasn't his normal day to drop the kid off. Had the kid in his back, back of the car, fell asleep. He drove, slipped his mind, went to work, got out of his car, and it was a couple hours in the office on a hot day, and his son died.
Libby Emmons
That is so odd.
Tim Pool
And then when he came out and found out what happened and the kid was dead, he killed himself on the spot.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
That's a horror story.
Matthew Farachi
That's a horror story.
Tim Pool
Now imagine that. That, you know, this person could not live anymore without his own child. Imagine you have someone who is at a similar age who never had one. And so they are like, you know, how do I describe this? It's like. I'm not saying this is every single person to those of you out there who didn't have kids and don't want to have kids. I'm not saying you are like this. I'm saying there are people who are 40 who feel like zombies because they have nothing to live for anymore. Been there, done that, experienced it, and they live now for nothing and no one. So they're in this limbo of existence without purpose, without drive, without sacrifice, without duty. I think this lends itself to the cultural decay and the conflicts that we're seeing in this country.
Matthew Farachi
Well, Elon Musk is constantly talking about birth rates, birth rates, birth rates. And look, the. You guys know this, but I'm going to repeat it. I sometimes feel like God must be really frustrated because the Bible has a very simple formula. Grow up, be raised well, get married, have babies, watch your babies, have babies, grow old, have wisdom, watch your babies, have babies. That's a fulfilling life. We don't know why, but we know God that made us that way. The other thing, Tim, that you're making a brilliant point of. Think about this. In the old world, let's say even 200 years ago, life expectancy was probably what, 50? If you really, really old, maybe you made it to 70 like Ben Franklin. So to your point, by the time you're in your midlife now, you're an old person. You've seen, you've been there, done that, seen it all. Solomon said, there's nothing new under the sun. Totally makes sense, right? So the only thing that's fulfilling is to pass the wisdom on that you earned to the next generation and to know that they have it.
Tim Pool
That's it. I am more afraid of living without my family than I am of dying.
Matthew Farachi
Of course. Of course.
Tim Pool
We talked about this a few, like, last week. I've understood this. I've empathized with these stories. It is obvious to see the pain in a person, a mother or father's eyes, when their child is taken from them. But I understood that to a father or a mother, the reason why they're willing to sacrifice themselves or why the mother gets a 10x increase in strength, like the stories of the mom who lifts the car off her child, tearing her muscles to shreds, it's because we fear losing our loved ones more than anything bad happening to us. Now, I say that knowing full well that there are parents out there who've been parents much longer than I, who have known this much longer than I and experienced it much longer than I. What I am just saying is imagine somebody who doesn't have somewhere to place that meaning they don't care about whether they live or die because they're bored. They're listless and purposeless, and they have nothing to serve or protect. What does that person become? And I think we see two things. We see demoralized, bored gluttons. Not everybody. It's not about you. I'm saying there are people who are gluttonous, listless, bored, lazy, and then there are people who are desperate for that purpose and they'll attach to whatever they can. And we see the communists, they are wealthy. They live in the wealthiest country. They are not by any stretch historically impoverished. But they're angry and they need something to. To fight.
Phil
I mean, yeah, I don't know.
Tim Pool
That's it.
Phil
I mean, to life.
Matthew Farachi
No, think about it. Because this is what conservatives always say, that. That if you look, there was a poll that I helped work on a couple years ago, and they asked this question of conservatives. And then lefties, talk about your political engagement. And conservatives said, I vote.
Phil
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
And by the way, hey, thank you. And the lefties said, basically every single day I take some kind of action to change the World. We always say among conservative circles that, like, we're all raising our families, making money, helping our kids be good members of society. And the other side, if you look at a lot of the demographics, JD Vance's cat ladies are just people, to your point, Tim, that are not engaged with their families. So you're going to pour your passions elsewhere, and that is to reshaping society.
Libby Emmons
Well, part of that, too. Yeah. But part of that reshaping of society also is because with the eradication of God in contemporary American life, these are people who, to Tim's point, don't have a purpose in life. They don't have families, they don't have any of that stuff to drive them. And so they're looking for meaning in every conceivable area. And so they plug in political action to everything, Right? So it's political action. When you're at the food line, you're not going to buy these tomatoes, you're going to buy these other tomatoes. So, you know, you're not going to buy these sneakers, you're going to buy these other sneakers. You're going to buy the iPhone because you don't care that slaves made the iPhone. It doesn't matter to you. But anything else, you're going to be, right? Chinese slaves, right? Anything else, you're going to be as politically engaged as you can in everything. I remember even think of, like the old Woody Allen film, I forget which one it was, but he's like, oh, I thought we weren't supposed to eat grapes anymore. And they're like, no, that was last month. And he said, what are we not eating now? You know.
Matthew Farachi
Do you know that in China, the rule, the unwritten rule, is the CCP will put out propaganda every week.
Tim Pool
Right.
Matthew Farachi
And the way that you show that you are in vogue with the party is you have to repeat the propaganda of this week. Oh, you get caught repeating the propaganda of last week, you could be in trouble. That's old news. You have to do. You have to use this week's line. And it doesn't matter if it can last week. Yeah, because the point is that you're showing adherence to the ccp. And if they say, last week we said it was waffles good, and this week we say waffles bad, you need to know that waffles bad is the new talking point.
Libby Emmons
Well, that's the. That's 1984.
Matthew Farachi
Yes.
Libby Emmons
Brave new world. That's all of the rest of it.
Tim Pool
Well, they tried doing it here, and we saw that during COVID Right.
Libby Emmons
And it didn't. It every week.
Tim Pool
It made no sense.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Two masks now. Right.
Matthew Farachi
90% didn't need masks at first. Remember?
Tim Pool
Well, and then they started wearing two masks.
Phil
The reason they said that you didn't need masks is because they wanted to make sure that the people that worked in hospitals and stuff had enough mask because they were afraid because China shut everything down. They were afraid that we weren't too busy buying masks.
Libby Emmons
Remember the six feet? The six feet.
Phil
Oh yeah. That was distancing.
Libby Emmons
That basically had to do with something that was, you know, that they. They came up with in the Middle ages for plague.
Tim Pool
Yeah. They made it up. They said there's no data to suggest this works.
Libby Emmons
No, there was absolutely nothing. The little circles, none of it. But everybody was walking different directions down the.
Matthew Farachi
Do you guys.
Libby Emmons
So important though that I think is. Is forgotten is that. That's why having. Having an understanding of what you believe and why and always being willing to interrogate your beliefs to understand what you believe, why you believe it, to. To figure that out. That's the entire thing. I mean that way you can be standing on a rock while everyone around you is on shifting sand.
Phil
Literally. Why I'm not a libertarian anymore.
Libby Emmons
It's the whole point. Yes.
Phil
You know, because libertarianism is. At the end of the day, libertarianism is just as fantastical as. Sure, Communism is.
Libby Emmons
Well. And no political party is going to provide you meaning or answers. And no political party actually has a steadfast value system. They have a system that they are using at this point to attain power. And that's pretty much it. Yeah, that's why it's things and understand it.
Tim Pool
No, I mean the communists gain power and then what these. These people are really.
Libby Emmons
Good question.
Tim Pool
And what are the communists?
Libby Emmons
Because they don't realize. They don't realize. I understand what happens not have any meaning in itself. Like there is no meaning.
Tim Pool
What do they do after Nothing changes. Everything falls apart. It's just.
Libby Emmons
It's just that's when the killing starts, Tim.
Tim Pool
But I understand it's a product of what I'm saying. Those with power, what do they actually do? Like what nothing's going to change for
Libby Emmons
you Remember what they did during COVID They had. They had orgies and they broke their own rules. They didn't care.
Phil
Is. Is the. Is the remember. Do they really believe what they're saying? Is that kind of.
Tim Pool
No, it's the smart people who are implementing this. What is their vision going to be? Because the smart people doing it know it doesn't work.
Libby Emmons
They're at the top, they're going to stop. They're going to stop caring about the vision. Like, literally during COVID you had the guy who was proclaiming social distancing all through New York City having sex parties.
Phil
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Right.
Libby Emmons
So it's, you know, to let off steam. So. And that's what we look at, Libby.
Matthew Farachi
It's champagne communism.
Libby Emmons
Yes, of course it is. Would AOC have any other kind?
Matthew Farachi
Yes. What is it? Some are. Some are equal, but some are more equal than others.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, that's always the way that it ends up, though. It's, it's. It's supposed. Because when you listen to people that are, that are socialists now, they're always talking about, you know, the working class and blah, blah. And they're not in the working class. They have never been in the working class.
Libby Emmons
All of these people, their claim to. Their claim to their experience, what they say is on their resume is that they were organizers. They were community organizers, which basically means going around knocking off doors, telling people to show up at rallies and marches.
Matthew Farachi
Well, and paying them to march.
Libby Emmons
Right. And paying them to.
Matthew Farachi
Now, here's an interesting wrinkle in your guys's theory. Mamdani is an Islamist. He's a. He's a Islam. You know, he's a terrorist, communist. And from. I'm Donnie and people of his ilk. That's where I'm. I'm sort of exploring that in my brain because it's a different goal. He wants total power, but he wants total power. He's. He's she. So, yeah, I. Power. So he can bring about the apocalypse, which is a weird way to go, but that's perhaps that's the goal.
Tim Pool
I think. I think his goals are destruction. Right now his goal is we need to destroy the United States. We got it. We're going to tear it apart from the inside.
Matthew Farachi
Yes.
Tim Pool
Afterwards, there's an ideological goal. But for now, everything he's doing is how can we harm these people the most?
Matthew Farachi
Right. He hates the United States. He hates the city he's in charge of, and he's trying to deconstruct it.
Tim Pool
Yeah, that's what they do.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And he. And. Let's do this. I have this from Nate Silver. This is very fascinating. Income and education are usually positively correlated, but sometimes the relationship breaks down. What's the most democratic voting group in America? People with postgraduate degrees, but lower to middle incomes. Do you know what that means? It means low competency.
Libby Emmons
It also means.
Tim Pool
So these are people who don't have the capability or the merit pursued a degree because they were told to and paid for it, but cannot convert it into meaningful income.
Matthew Farachi
How many of those degrees are in feminist studies?
Tim Pool
Well, probably a lot.
Libby Emmons
A lot of them also theater, which I.
Matthew Farachi
Gender studies.
Libby Emmons
But the other thing too. This is why the president just announced that plan to pull funding from any degree granting programs where the. The graduates do not earn more than a high school graduate.
Matthew Farachi
Right. Because it's ultimately not resulting.
Libby Emmons
Not resulting.
Matthew Farachi
Making them productive members of society.
Libby Emmons
There's no reason to have these.
Matthew Farachi
Why would you do that?
Libby Emmons
I remember people that I graduated with from grad school in, you know, in theater, which. Okay, but anyway, people I graduated with were complaining that artists were not getting a living wage. And I was like, what part of the artist myth are you guys missing here?
Tim Pool
All the starving artists.
Libby Emmons
It's called the starving artist for a reason. Like you go hustle, go wait some tables, figure it out. Like what. How did you. Where did you think that art came with a minimum wage? It just doesn't. That's why so many people go into teaching
Matthew Farachi
and they fail. And that's what I'm saying, Tim. I would love to see media a breakdown of what those postgraduate degrees are because it's got to be a who's who of the most useless. Why does any school have this?
Phil
All humanities department.
Libby Emmons
Not all humanities departments.
Phil
They're all from the humanities.
Libby Emmons
They all are from the humanities department. Yes.
Matthew Farachi
I remember back in the day I was a. I was a producer on this TV show that Nobody on this. Well, you'll remember Libby, but. And I remember.
Phil
And all of you guys, I bet.
Matthew Farachi
Okay. I was on the McLaughlin Group, which was like the original. It was awesome.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
So I'm producing this show and one of the producers on the show.
Libby Emmons
Do you remember the SNL sketches about them?
Matthew Farachi
Oh, legendary. And I'm looking at this brochure from George Washington University and it says, pay us $90,000 a year and you'll get to do this, this, this and this. And then I'm getting paid and I'm actually doing this, this, this and this. And from that I realized, wait a minute. At least for that degree, grad school is a scam. Like they're purporting to teach me something that I'm actually learning on the job. And the other thing would be interesting, Tim, to know is, are the enrollments in those kind of programs keeping up? Because I'm going to guess they're not.
Tim Pool
Probably not.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, probably not.
Tim Pool
But it's Fascinating. And I don't think that there's a correlation between getting a degree and being a liberal. I think it's when you can see high school or less, even at the highest incomes are still Republican leaning. I think this shows that the people who choose to go their own way are going to vote for independence and the people who do what they are told in an authoritative system. Are going to vote for an authoritative system.
Phil
Yeah. I mean, particularly because the humanities, or at least the reason why the humanities department is probably extremely overrepresented is because the humanities departments have almost entirely been co opted by Marxist.
Libby Emmons
Yes.
Phil
Right. You don't, you generally, if you're going on and about your day, you probably don't run into a lot of Marxists, you know, at Walmart or, you know, going and doing stuff. Maybe some young activists or whatever that
Libby Emmons
like whole diner goth phenomenon.
Phil
Yeah, some of that. But like, but the people that are, are in the humanities departments, like it's like 90% Marxist and I'm not, I'm not exaggerating. The teachers are like 100%, 90% Marxist and then 10 left but not Marxist. Maybe they're like, oh well, Marx wasn't right. You know, I'm, I'm more Foucaulting or whatever, you know.
Libby Emmons
I had a friend who went to life. She was normal. She was basically, she was lefty but normal. And then she went to library school and the next thing I know she was library school.
Matthew Farachi
Did you guys see?
Libby Emmons
And then she suddenly was implementing drag story queen, drag queen story hours at my library where I took my son for story time and suddenly I couldn't take him.
Phil
You mean where you used to take your.
Libby Emmons
I used to take him when he was very little, but that was the end of that. I was like, what is going on? Why are there fellas in dresses trying to reach my kid? And my kid was like, what is that? And I was like, it's not.
Tim Pool
We're not staying in the uk.
Matthew Farachi
There's a story out recently that there were. That there are Arabs from the Middle east that are not sending their kids to Oxford and the elite schools because they're becoming radicalized.
Phil
Yeah.
Tim Pool
I mean, they don't want them to go extreme.
Matthew Farachi
They go to UK and become jihadists and then come back and mess up their countries.
Phil
There's a tweet, there's a tweet that I saw from someone from the uae. He was like the foreign minister or something like that. And I've seen it multiple times. And he specifically. And he's speaking in English and someone said, we have a translation. He's like, no, I want to say this in English so that way you'll understand. We have been able to handle the radicals in our country and Europe has not been able to handle the radicals because they're afraid of being called racist or whatever. How are you who are not Muslims, how are you going to tell us that we're handling the radicals when we're Muslims? Right.
Libby Emmons
Well, it's also, it's such a good point. It was like 400 years of Islamic invasion into Europe before they launched Crusades.
Phil
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Oh, I mean it wasn't even just in Europe. It was sweeping across Northern Africa and entering Spain.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Thousands of years of jihad.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. And it took a long time for the two Crusades. Declare Crusades.
Tim Pool
Yeah, two of them.
Matthew Farachi
I want to go back in a time machine and just go to one of those famous battles and tap on the Hungarians when they're fighting the Turks and just say, guys, listen, don't worry about fighting this battle because the people that come after you, like they're just going to let them in. So, you know, don't worry about it.
Tim Pool
Or, or you can go back with a couple AR15s.
Phil
You know, here you go.
Libby Emmons
This would help. Yeah, this would be the move.
Matthew Farachi
No apprehension in many years, you're the people coming after you will be shooting these in the air.
Phil
I'm apprehensive about going back in time and changing anything. But yeah, like you go back, it go back 150 years or 200 years with a handful of rifles and everything changes.
Matthew Farachi
There's so many YouTube videos. I'm sure you've seen them. I'm sure, sure Tim has. Where it's like a modern American platoon versus like. Oh yeah, like the Roman army.
Tim Pool
And what would happen in some circumstances not as one sided as you think. Yeah, yeah. So having like 13 guys versus 500 archers, they can do a lot of damage, but the archers might still take it.
Phil
I was watching or me and Sarah were watching the the Revolution miniseries by Netflix and I and they were talking about the battle of Bunker Hill and I'm like, man, if you had a couple, couple dudes with modern rifles just mowing them down.
Tim Pool
Oh yeah, all of these battles. So in Gettysburg for instance, the north had breech loading muskets rifles at this point and the south was still using muzzleloaders. So this, this meant that it took a minute, between a minute and two, maybe even three for the Confederates to reload. And for the north it was like 30 seconds. At this point, they'd fire you crack.
Matthew Farachi
You know, you right, they have the repeating load.
Tim Pool
They put the cartridge in and close it. And that's at the cap.
Phil
And then bang.
Tim Pool
Took them 30 seconds to fire. So the technological advancement was a massive.
Phil
You go look at, at the war in Iraq, you look at Afghanistan, the, the side that wins the gunfight is almost always the side that shoots more. Right now, whoever it's, it's suppression by or accuracy by volume. You shoot a bunch of bullets.
Matthew Farachi
Now I think that's going to be drones more.
Phil
Well, yeah, I mean that's, that's the future.
Tim Pool
But one guy with like a.50 BMG, like a belt fed.50 BMG butterfly trigger versus like the entire Confederate Army.
Phil
All you got to do is keep that gun, that gun cool and keep putting those, those, those belts in.
Matthew Farachi
There is a AI driven gun. I think they call it the Bullfrog. If you guys have seen it in Texas. And they claim that you can mount this thing on a jeep or a boat. And because it's AI driven, it can take out like 20 drones at a time.
Tim Pool
Oh, man.
Matthew Farachi
Just like a chain.
Tim Pool
Have you, have you guys seen the ad for the AI aiming rifle?
Matthew Farachi
Yep. No. What's that?
Tim Pool
You got to do anything. You just, you, you put it down on the, on the bipod and then it, you look through the scope at the target and then it'll adjust perfectly for wind and distance and everything to hit the target. It's crazy these days.
Matthew Farachi
Wow. Which means any idiot can be a good sniper.
Tim Pool
Yeah, well, this was the point of, of the rifle. Like you used to have to have warriors had to be trained to be able to fight. Once you had the, once you had cartridges and you could just load it in, you can hand it to anybody and say, point and pull the trigger. Your aim might not be good, but you go so quick, not even matter anymore. Then conscription became much more viable. Before that, you had a warrior class. Didn't need to be guns.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fascinating.
Phil
Rifles. Rifles are cool. I just got, I just got a new upper a couple days ago. I'm going to the range tomorrow morning.
Matthew Farachi
Should have brought it show and tell,
Phil
my friend on YouTube. So, I mean, I have a gun on me right now, but you can
Matthew Farachi
talk about, you can talk about Charlie Kirk conspiracies, which shows the absurdity of what you just said. Well, the reason provides the right. We can promote it.
Phil
Well, the reason that you can't have a gun on you on YouTube is because when you're live streaming they're afraid that like someone might shoot someone or whatever. Someone go crazy or what have you.
Matthew Farachi
But there's way. But there's videos on YouTube.
Phil
Videos. But we're live streaming. Yeah.
Tim Pool
You're not on the live stream.
Matthew Farachi
Different.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
Okay, okay, okay.
Tim Pool
But the important thing with the Charlie Kirk stuff is that YouTube has explicit rules. They told me. They tell us about promoting conspiracies. They explicitly say we, we will downrank these and reduce viewership. If you promote conspiracy theories. This has been true for like eight years. It's never changed. And if you search YouTube, you'll still only get ABC, NBC, CBS.
Libby Emmons
Really?
Tim Pool
Unless it's Charlie Kirk stuff. Then you're going to get the known actors for some reason.
Matthew Farachi
There must be Tim. There must be another right. Hurting conspiracy that's also being promoted. And maybe we can challenge all the Tim Pool viewers to send us info on what they're discovering. Because there's got to be something else that. That's analogous to the Charlie stuff. It has to be on the right.
Tim Pool
Yeah, I don't know.
Matthew Farachi
There has to be.
Tim Pool
I know that I've talked with a few people in the industry who said that if you make videos about Erica Kirk in a negative light, you will get ad rates rivaling finance, which is why so many people are doing it. And my response is what advertiser is going on YouTube and explicitly saying in the ad network, I want this video shown at a premium to people searching for negative videos about Eric Kirk? Let me explain. I go on Google Ads.
Matthew Farachi
Wait, I write that again.
Tim Pool
If I go on Google Ads.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
I'll say My budget is $1,000.
Matthew Farachi
Yes.
Tim Pool
And I want this video shown to fans of music. Who the F is going on Google and saying, here's a million dollars. I want these videos displayed on content accusing Erica Kirk of murdering her husband. Why would those videos have a high rpm? Advertisers have to say, and if it's not the advertisers, then YouTube's algorithm intentionally is applying a higher end of this content. Why it is not answers or hurts the right question.
Matthew Farachi
And, and to your point then, Tim.
Tim Pool
But hold on. That would mean that YouTube's doing it intentionally. That would mean that you Google. Google Ads is allocating ad rates to this content. Now here's why it doesn't make sense. As an advertiser, you. It's. It's an automated bidding system.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So if I make an advertisement, I say I want to target this audience. It's going to cost money based on what the audience is. So Finance has few views and a lot of money. So if you're an. If you're a financial service company and you want to get clients to make a lot of money, it's expensive because the audience is small and you are very rich, which means your competitors are bidding high.
Matthew Farachi
Right. Okay.
Tim Pool
Who is competing to the tune of comparable to finance to appear on Erica Kirk murdered her husband videos? It just does not make sense.
Matthew Farachi
But. Okay, question back to you, Tim, on that. Could you argue that if YouTube is incentivizing, that it's increasing YouTube viewership view time?
Libby Emmons
But you could have made the same argument about stuff about COVID People wanted to know what.
Tim Pool
Right. If this is the case, then Flat Earth would be front page.
Matthew Farachi
Okay. But it's okay. I'm matching that with a political agenda, so you should.
Tim Pool
I understand. Yeah, I agree.
Matthew Farachi
We know YouTube and Google have manipulated
Tim Pool
every election because I'm saying if it was purely about maximizing viewership, Alex Jones would have never been banned. He was cranking in the views. It was nuts.
Matthew Farachi
Okay, so.
Tim Pool
And Flat Earth and alien channels and alternate science videos would all be on the front page.
Matthew Farachi
All about maximizing viewership. That hurts the right.
Tim Pool
Indeed. But the question then is there's other subjects that don't. Well, you know, maybe not. I mean, a lot of the politics seem to be just, whether it's Charlie Kirk or otherwise, it's fracturing on the right. So perhaps, I mean, it makes the most sense.
Matthew Farachi
So by your definition, Turning point is dealing with a tsunami that no organization is built to hand to. To either handle or anticipate.
Tim Pool
Well, how do you. How do you handle an onslaught from grifters and billionaires and big tech corporations
Libby Emmons
after your founder was assassinated on a live stream?
Matthew Farachi
Right.
Tim Pool
They killed Charlie and now they're trying to kill his legacy.
Libby Emmons
Yep.
Matthew Farachi
Yes, I think that's right.
Phil
Yeah. The. And the worst part is Charlie was so incredibly skilled, like, trying to. Like the fact that they killed him was bad enough, but going after TP USA and going after his wife and stuff, it's. It's really, really sad. But it also hurts.
Matthew Farachi
It's criminal.
Phil
You know, it hurts the. The. The right so much. And there's people that, you know, you talk about the people that are grifters or what have you, and it's like, it's such. It's so selfish and stuff because, you know, right after Charlie passed away, like, there was a lot of momentum on the right and people just threw it away.
Matthew Farachi
Charlie was also an oral voice.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this video From Mayor Zoran.
Matthew Farachi
My favorite mayor.
Tim Pool
Let's go to this video from Mayor Zoran. Kwame Mamdani. Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal. He posted this at 8pm it has 2.3 million views and 153,000 likes. Here's what he said. Apparently we can't hear what he said.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
The Architect Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal. The architect of a horrific genocide against the Palestinian people. He is responsible for the killing of more than 73,000 people. For the maiming of tens of thousands of children as those who survive undergo amputation without anesthesia. For the targeting of neonatal hospitals and maternity care centers, denying newborns even the chance to live. For the countless people he starved as he blocked food and humanitarian aid from reaching them. For the gunning down of hundreds of aid workers and journalists. And just last month the UN confirmed that Palestinian children continue to be deliberately targeted and killed by Israeli armed forces. More than eight months after the so called ceasefire. The list goes on and on. All as we as Americans pay for the bombs that do the killing, there is a reason the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for his arrest. As human beings, we have spent generations building a shared understanding that there are crimes so grave they offend all of humanity. Anyone with their eyes, with their heart, with their conscience should recognize the devastation he has wrought and understand that he belongs before a court of law. As I've said, I agree with the ICC that Benjamin Netanyahu should be arrested and tried for his crimes as I do for anyone else charged by the icc. My administration has reviewed every avenue available under applicable law to determine whether New York City could execute the International Criminal Court's arrest warrant. If Benjamin Netanyahu came here. It is clear that we do not have the independent legal authority to enforce this warrant. The federal government, however, does. And I call on them to join the ICC and execute this warrant. And I want to be equally clear. Benjamin Netanyahu is not welcome in New York City, nor is any other war criminal at large. While we cannot end the genocide on our own, we can decide whether our silence will become another weapon. And we can examine every tool we have to defend the humanity and dignity of all people. That is my commitment to you.
Tim Pool
I think he should be removed by the federal government for violating the Logan act, threatening a foreign world leader with legal action, criminal action or otherwise. I understand, he said we don't have the authority to do so. But these threats are out there and they negatively impact our ability to engage in meaningful foreign policy for which he has no authority to engage in this as a mayor of a city. And it's, and I'm not saying this is defensive Netanyahu, I am no fan of Netanyahu. I am more concerned that this is a rogue political element in our country that is acting in violation of our laws and our Constitution.
Libby Emmons
Well, he's also taught, he's also invoking the icc, which is the International Criminal Court, which has absolutely no jurisdiction whatsoever in this country. Marco Rubio came out again. Marco Rubio, one of my favorites. He came out, what was it last week, saying that the ICC absolutely has no jurisdiction in the United States and that the US doesn't have, you know, support for the ICC because it doesn't have anything to do with our laws. You have AOC as well, saying that the, you know, invoking the ICC in some cases, and you can't say as a, you can't say as the mayor of New York City that certain leaders who, you know, are allies of the United States are not welcome in a city that you are simply the mayor of.
Phil
You don't realize, denaturalize, deport, enforce the Communist Control Act. This is. It is. It is. Look, I don't really care about Bibi either, but any excuse that I can come up with to get him out of office or get him out of the U.S. i'm down jaywalking. Send him back.
Tim Pool
I don't care.
Matthew Farachi
Well, the other thing is, first of all, if you're going to arrest war criminals, if that's going to be the standard, then they're going to have to go in and raid the UN and arrest about 80% of the countries that are represented there, not the least of it, which, thank God we can say this freely on air, is China, which is conducting an actual genocide against the Uyghurs in China. And as Janya Kellogg writes in his book Killed the Order, if you want to get a liver transplant Next Thursday at 2:30pm in Beijing, you can get one because they've got a Uyghur in prison waiting to have their, you just have to pay forcibly donated. So that's, that's number one. Number two, and this is the point I was making, Tim, when we were talking before the show, is that the DSA guys are crazy and they're, they're trying to moderate their image. And mom, Donnie did the same thing, right? I'm a nice guy. I've got these funny videos. I'm running for mayor. Aren't I sweet? Hahaha. Don't take it seriously. And then I would argue you're seeing the real mom Donnie in this video. Who. And he is a far left nutcase and we've actually now seen him. And this is what's gonna happen is eventually these guys have to show who they really are. And Mamdani just did that.
Tim Pool
It is just not the place of a mayor of a city to issue threats against foreign leaders.
Phil
Yep.
Tim Pool
By all means, please, in the comments, criticize Netanyahu, call him every name in the book. And that is something Donald Trump, our federal government, our Congress will have to deal with. And if you want Congress to take action against it, if you want to push back against it, by all means, yes. But a small town, I shouldn't say small town, a mayor, I mean a smaller local politician. Engaging in these kinds of threats is dangerous for ability to negotiate on the world stage.
Phil
Denaturalize and deport. Send them home.
Libby Emmons
Well, and the ICC is also ideologically driven.
Tim Pool
Oh yeah, yeah.
Matthew Farachi
Oh yeah. It's a total lefty European.
Libby Emmons
And yeah, it takes its moral perspective from like a cobbled together batch of random progressive perspectives for years.
Matthew Farachi
Remember they said they were going to arrest Americans. And remember we had something during the Bush administration, they were going to like arrest Americans in Kosovo or something.
Phil
Any internal.
Tim Pool
The UK threatened to arrest Americans as well.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil
Any international organization like the icc, even the un like, it's all left leaning. It caters to, to principles that are not held. Held in esteem in the United States. It, it doesn't. It generally kind of disapproves of any kind of national pride. The idea that you would like your country or love your country over other countries is abhorrent to them. They. We should ignore them entirely. We should send the UN out of New York too. Get them. Let them go. Let them go to Brussels. Yeah, let them go to Brussels. Yeah, exactly. There's this reason for them to be in the United States.
Tim Pool
This guy is not an American.
Matthew Farachi
No, that's right.
Tim Pool
He's born in a foreign country. Who comes here, wins office through lies and deception and then injects himself into our foreign policy.
Phil
Beat it. Beat it. Denaturalize and deport.
Matthew Farachi
Well, and the President came out and said, not going to happen.
Tim Pool
Oh, I know, right? It's insane that he even made the threat.
Matthew Farachi
But I'll give you another scenario, Tim. In some nightmare scenario like what was that Amazon show the man in the High Castle.
Tim Pool
Right.
Matthew Farachi
Where it shows like alternate reality. Have you ever seen that amazing show and the High Castle and highly recommend in some alternate universe where we are UNBURDENED by what has been. And Kamala's president. Okay, what does Kamala do? She probably echoes. She probably echoes what mom Donnie says. Absolutely.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
That's the scary.
Tim Pool
Fetterman's gonna lose his mind.
Phil
Yeah, he's going to. He's. He's actually going to stop being a Democrat pretty soon. Yeah, like.
Tim Pool
And that's. That's. Look, he votes Democrat all the way. If he flips on this issue and then votes in line with the Republicans, I'll take it.
Phil
Yeah, I'll take. Look, anyone that. Anyone that votes against the communists, I'm okay with. I'm. I'm. I know there was a time when we used to do introductions to the show. I used to introduce myself every single day as anti communist, counter revolutionary. Like my whole political.
Matthew Farachi
Why is communism bad?
Phil
Why? Because.
Tim Pool
Well, why is it bad?
Phil
First of all, it takes away the agency.
Matthew Farachi
True. That would be a great T shirt, Tim.
Phil
First of all, it takes away individual agency.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Phil
It takes away the motivation to do things because why would you put any effort into doing something when you know that you're going to be doing it for other people? You look at all getting yourself.
Tim Pool
It strips meritocracy. It's from the entire economic system. It's actually puts power in the hands of the. The of low competency individuals.
Phil
It's actually Covid. It incentivizes cronyism because you give. You don't give jobs or you don't get, you know, you don't get a job because of your. Because of your ability. You get it because you know someone. And actually at the end of the day, it's not even like a political party or political theory. It's. It's a religion. Right. You're looking to create. You're looking to create heaven on earth.
Libby Emmons
Utopia.
Phil
Yeah, the utopia.
Libby Emmons
Which of course, utopia in the first place. The. Thomas More was a dystopia.
Phil
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Utopia meant bad thing.
Libby Emmons
Yes.
Phil
It was like.
Libby Emmons
It was a satire.
Phil
Your. Your. It takes away any ability for you to. It takes away all hierarchy. And hierarchy is important. Hierarchy is natural. I mean, there's. I can go on and on about.
Matthew Farachi
You remember what Margaret Thatcher had a great quote. She said the problem with socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
I mean, that's.
Phil
That's fine, but it's. It's so just like wave tops.
Libby Emmons
The.
Phil
The bad thing about. Or the real bad things is the fact that it's an ideal ideology. If it wasn't for the fact that it's an Ideology, you wouldn't see failure after failure after failure after failure after failure after failure. People would learn. They would say, oh, that doesn't work because it's an ideology. It. Because it's an ideology. They just, look, they think, how many
Matthew Farachi
people died was the bad person because of communists?
Phil
100 million.
Libby Emmons
It's because it creates the like, mythication of your life. Right. Nothing is ever going to be great. It's just everything's going to be totally mediocre.
Tim Pool
Well, why work hard if you can't succeed? And what happens is these folklore and mythology majors say if people didn't have to worry about money, they would try their hardest. And you're like, no, they'll do the minimum requirement and then chill.
Phil
Yeah, there's the evidence.
Tim Pool
Or actually, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I take it back. I will always work. They won't. So what'll happen is people like me who actually do the hard work are gonna say, stop stealing from me. And they're gonna stop.
Matthew Farachi
You're earning money for them, right? Yeah, yeah.
Phil
The, the.
Matthew Farachi
Mitt Romney was right about his 47.
Tim Pool
He was correct.
Matthew Farachi
He was totally right about that.
Tim Pool
I forget for what he said, we are the 47% of taxpayers.
Matthew Farachi
He basically said, didn't he say, Tim, something like 47 of people aren't.
Tim Pool
He said, only, only around 47 of
Matthew Farachi
people actually pay taxes and contribute.
Tim Pool
And this was during Occupy, really only.
Libby Emmons
And then 40%.
Tim Pool
47. So while people were. People were taking these pictures.
Libby Emmons
Totally.
Tim Pool
Like, people were taking pictures holding up signs saying we are the 99%. After he said that, conservative started holding up signs saying we are the 47% who are actually paying taxes.
Phil
Yeah, I mean, look, if you make below the median income, you don't pay any tax.
Matthew Farachi
That's why I told you I like a flat tax.
Tim Pool
I'm not 20%.
Matthew Farachi
Everybody pays 20%.
Phil
I'm fine with the progressive tax that we have, but I don't think that you should. Well, actually, not. My, My, my thoughts on voting aggressive. You're going to. You're going to. You're love this. My, my thoughts on voting. It's no longer the get rid of the 19th. Well, I mean, you have to get rid of the 19th to do what I want, but you, you have to get rid of about, about all of the voters. You get about like 50 million voters. 500,000 from each state, or, I'm sorry, 50,000 from each state and then that's it. Right. So you can't. So when someone passes away, then A
Libby Emmons
new person, the electoral college, but just bigger, similar.
Matthew Farachi
Well, remember the Republic. We are not a democracy. We are not a democracy. We are not a democracy. You had to be a landowner. And one of the advantages of that was that, that was their way of saying, you have to have a stake. You have to have skin in the game. If you get to vote, you have to have a stake in this company we call America.
Tim Pool
That is actually, I think, an exaggerated way to look at it. I understand the point being made, but back then it was actually very, very simple. Hey, everybody who lives here, do you want to vote on what we do? When you've got, when you've got a town with 15 people in it, who's voting? The people who live here. Like, why would, why, why would the guy down the hill come and vote?
Matthew Farachi
Right?
Tim Pool
So it was very low framed by, by these lefties as only landowners could vote, kind of. It was, do you live here? Then you can vote. And it was like, how do we know you live here? You, you own that property right there, right?
Matthew Farachi
You have, you have a claim, but you all. But my point, my larger point, Tim, is if you don't have skin in the game, then giving people's money away doesn't matter.
Tim Pool
I agree.
Matthew Farachi
If it costs you something, you know, a lot of college kids, how about if they get that first paycheck and they see the deduction and they go, wait a minute, I earned 500 bucks and you took 225 for what?
Tim Pool
I, I, I like the idea of if you are a net taxpayer, you can vote, and if you are not, you can't.
Matthew Farachi
Okay.
Tim Pool
Net taxpayer means you pay more in taxes than you receive in tax benefits.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So this would mean that only the top 20% are actually voting, and it does include a lot of city folk who pay more taxes due to a higher cost of living. That being said, how many of those people, once we implement this system, are going to agree to tax themselves more?
Matthew Farachi
Right.
Tim Pool
Because when the distinction is nobody votes if they are receiving, the people who are paying are to be like, wait a minute, wait a minute, why am I paying for these people? I think, I think it would even shift the views of liberals and cities and we, the system would change overnight.
Phil
Yeah, I don't know about overnight, but it would change pretty quick.
Tim Pool
Well, I mean, figuratively, it would change very quickly when even liberals were told, you have control of how much money you're going to give to those people.
Matthew Farachi
Well, look how many people, look how much people and money are leaving New York.
Tim Pool
That's your point?
Matthew Farachi
It's like a reverse. It's like a.
Libby Emmons
And it was 250,000 in the COVID era.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Libby Emmons
Left.
Tim Pool
Indeed.
Phil
People, you know, people that talk about, you know, oh, should pay more taxes. I'm rich, I should pay more taxes. Your, the, the, the Treasury Department will accept a check. You're right.
Matthew Farachi
Donate.
Phil
You're more than, more than welcome to write a check.
Matthew Farachi
Efficient way. You could spend.
Phil
Absolutely. So if you, if you really do, if the people that are going to say things like, oh, they should tax me more, write the check because they'll take it. You know, it's all just, it's all virtue signaling. It's all bullshit. Yeah.
Tim Pool
If given the chance, they would pay taxes at all. And I guarantee you these liberal wealthy folk are using every tax loophole they can. And then when they're called to go, well, you know, I'm just following the law.
Matthew Farachi
Well, that wasn't.
Libby Emmons
Well, that's like the, that's the Trump thing. Right?
Matthew Farachi
Wasn't that the genius of Trump?
Libby Emmons
Yeah. He was like, I know the system is rigged because I've used, I've used it.
Matthew Farachi
And he came out from behind the curtain and said, guys, they're screwing you in there.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
Yep.
Matthew Farachi
I'm on your side.
Libby Emmons
Vance said that last week on Rogan. He said the system is rigged about housing.
Phil
It really is.
Libby Emmons
Also, when you look at this big housing bill that everyone was so excited about, the bipartisan housing bill, I was looking through it the other day. I don't see much in it that actually helps a first time home buyer. In fact, the thing about, you know, developers not being able to buy up all the real estate to turn it into rental properties. There's exemptions for developers so that they can buy up all the properties and turn them into rentals.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Phil
I mean, look the way.
Libby Emmons
What's in there.
Matthew Farachi
You can't do this, but you can do this.
Libby Emmons
But here's an exemption.
Phil
The way to.
Libby Emmons
Exemption.
Phil
So the way to solve the, the housing problems that we're having. Austin did it. They just reduced the barriers to entry. They got rid of a bunch of the. What's the word I'm looking for? A bunch of the, the rules around building houses and stuff like that. Thank you. Regulations and, and zoning and all. It was, it was the, the housing issue was solved in, in Austin. Like housing prices have gone down in the past five years. This is not some incredibly difficult problem to solve. Like the, the, the solutions are right in front of you. It's been done in certain, certain areas, certain Districts. It's just that the, the power that even local governments have, they don't want to give up. They don't want to allow, they don't want to reduce regulations. They don't want to say that you can, you can build it's people's whole
Tim Pool
jobs to just work in government and be like, to be a. Let's just call it less visible obstruction, a bureaucrat.
Phil
This was the point we were talking about the other night. Like people will pay more taxes if they have more influence because then they can get rid of regulations. Like billionaires people, they love to say, oh, billionaires don't pay enough. Billionaires would probably pay 5% more in tax, 10% more in tax if it meant that they could lower the regulations and they could expand their businesses and make up the difference.
Libby Emmons
Trump was trying to do for all those AI data centers being like. And build a power plant and will fast track built like zoning and nowadays red tape.
Phil
They've got those nuclear power plants that are, that are, you know, basically the size of conex.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil
Containers. Those things should be, those should go everywhere that there's a, a data center that's being built. Everybody that has the fear of data centers, they're like, oh, the data centers are going to use up all the water. No, they're not. That's just not true. Data centers, like, I'm very pro a, I'm very pro data center. I'm very pro like technology and stuff. And, and there's a lot of people that are so against them. And so, so thanks to China pushing. Yeah. I mean it really is like that. And I'm not, that's not to say that I'm for flock cameras because the, the, the ability to monitor people because of flock cameras. That's, that's absolutely terrible. They're. There should be something done about that.
Matthew Farachi
Can you guys guess what percentage. I just looked this up. What percentage of the American workforce works for government?
Tim Pool
Is it 20 something percent?
Matthew Farachi
It's less than I thought, but more than it should be. It says it's about 14 to 15%.
Phil
Wow.
Libby Emmons
And a lot of those people are unionized.
Matthew Farachi
There should never be roughly 22.5 million people. That's too many government jobs.
Libby Emmons
It definitely is too many.
Matthew Farachi
Government needs some more doge.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, more doge. And also the other thing too is there should not be public sector unions like that because when you have a private union, you're saying, okay, we made a lot more widgets and we did a better job. And they're commanding a higher price in the marketplace. So give us a share of those profits and then you can negotiate based on that. With public unions, you're just demanding more money from the taxpayer. And we don't have a choice. We don't have any say in it. And then that money just goes to benefit political candidates. It's a money laundering operation.
Matthew Farachi
It's even worse. Libby. I was telling somebody today, my first job out of college, I was a high school teacher. And the local, like, union person says to me, and we didn't have a choice, by the way, to join the union. She comes up and she says, we're going to protest. And I said, what are we protesting? She read me the policy. I said, wait a minute, that's bad for the students. And she looked at me like, what do we care? What, like, I'm sorry, you're thinking about the students.
Tim Pool
A lot of these public sector, A lot of these public sector unions, the union reps and executives aren't even working that public sector job.
Libby Emmons
And the National Education association is not just the largest teachers union in the country, it's the largest union in the country.
Phil
Should be disbanded.
Libby Emmons
It should be disbanded. You see Becky Pringle out there calling for revolution and the destruction of the United States. She's a crazy person.
Phil
Yeah. And that's, that's legalized communism goes hand in hand with unions. I mean like the average, like the
Libby Emmons
problem with education entirely.
Phil
Well, education has a lot of problems. But yes, that is one of the. But like, you know, the average guy on the, on the, you know, whatever, in a construction union that goes to work every day, he's probably not a communist. No, organizers are the guys. And top there, they love to spread the word of workers of the world. United stuff.
Matthew Farachi
Listen, at the Department of Labor, they have this office called olms, the Office of Labor Management Statistics. You guys can look it up. During Democratic administrations, they hide it, they stick it in. I remember when I worked for, in the Bush administration, I had to go find the people that worked in this office because Clintons, the Clintons had put them in such a far flung office that I couldn't find them anyway. What they do, their job is to take publicly available data about unions and post it online. Okay? The Democrats take it down. The Republicans usually put it up. You wouldn't believe. We found unions with like 300 members where the union president had a Learjet. Okay, Right, right. Like, like. What about the craziest stuff you've ever seen?
Libby Emmons
The US Institute for Peace we discovered after DOGE had like hundreds of thousands of dollars in a slush fund that they were using to just do whatever, and they were still getting money from Congress. Come on.
Matthew Farachi
Candace should get. Candace should get out of podcasting and get into the organized grift. That's where the real.
Tim Pool
Well, with USAID gone, a lot of the billions are going to evaporate.
Libby Emmons
You had a post about how with USAID gone, rap music has descended in the charts.
Matthew Farachi
Charts.
Tim Pool
It's gone. It's off the charts.
Libby Emmons
It's just off the charts entirely. How are they.
Phil
Yeah.
Tim Pool
You guys didn't know. This is funny because I knew this,
Libby Emmons
but I wanted to ask you about it. Yeah, no, I knew about it, but I. I didn't get a chance to ask you about it.
Matthew Farachi
Wait, are you saying Puff Daddy was July.
Tim Pool
Was The July of 25 ended USAID.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Tim Pool
By October, rap had evaporated off the Billboard charts. Additionally, a lot of these.
Libby Emmons
Is it a correlation?
Tim Pool
RB and rap artists can't sell tickets, so they can't sell tickets anymore to shows. Their tours are being canceled. At the same time, Shane Gillis is selling out 80,000 seats.
Matthew Farachi
So you're saying that the audiences were inflated by government money.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
Because the messages were anti government.
Tim Pool
No, because they wanted to control culture. And some people might say it's impossible to fill an audience with a bunch of actors like that. You can't do it. And I need only remind you of 2009, when Oprah Winfrey had 20,000 people on Lakeshore Drive. I think it was. I'm sorry, it was Michigan Avenue. And the first 2000 were all actors who did a choreographed dance, and they weren't actually audience members. So, yeah, they can and have done it before. Additionally, we know that institutions bulk buy their own books, and now there's accusations that. And governors spend about 100 million fabricating ticket sales buying tickets to the Odyssey to make it look like it was a snowy hit.
Matthew Farachi
That's actually, unfortunately, a common Hollywood practice. You basically stuff the ballot box to upbeat.
Tim Pool
You buy a bunch of your own seats. Yeah, because you can say it's huge.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah. Because if you do that, that, you know, you have a good first opening weekend, you go up here, that's what's going to help you.
Tim Pool
So there's a theory that the Odyssey. Listen, I got to be honest. I don't understand why the Odyssey would sell out better than a Marvel movie, even a bad Marvel movie. If you go to any person and ask them, would they be interested in watching a movie based on Homer's the Odyssey, they're going to say. What's that?
Libby Emmons
You were saying that the ticket sales were inflated.
Tim Pool
Well, I don't know that that's true. I think it's possible to believe that it's the Odyssey. I mean, people may actually want to go see it. It's epic. But I just think it's it. You know, I don't know how much I believe that all of these people are just like the Odyssey and they're like screaming and trying to get day opening tickets to go see Homer.
Matthew Farachi
I think they just. It's.
Libby Emmons
Or Nolan.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, well, it could be no less. And right now you need, you need to repent and see Young Washington.
Tim Pool
Well, you know, I haven't been to the movies in a minute. Yeah, next we're going to see Spider Man.
Matthew Farachi
Spider Man. Oh, yeah. Spider man has lost me.
Libby Emmons
Because when is Spider Man.
Matthew Farachi
We're on like Spider Man 54.
Libby Emmons
The new one is out next Thursday. Yeah, that's awesome.
Phil
Tim. Check out the slack.
Tim Pool
What did you get?
Phil
I just saw something funny.
Tim Pool
Tim Chi.
Matthew Farachi
Oh, that's good. Tim Chi. Now you've got your brand name, Tim.
Tim Pool
I mean, you know what, you put a little. We're getting sushi tomorrow and the sushi place nearby just added kimchi to their menu and.
Libby Emmons
Really?
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Matthew Farachi
Tim. Tim.
Tim Pool
When I was little, I didn't like it at all.
Phil
You got pool water. Why not?
Matthew Farachi
Tim Chi. You should just say. You should just put out a poll that says if I, if I actually make Timchi, who will, who will put a deposit down on the product?
Tim Pool
I have no expertise, skills, or knowledge in anything related to producing fermented coffee.
Matthew Farachi
I would eat your Tim Cheese.
Phil
But you're a smart guy.
Matthew Farachi
Even if it's. That would be fun.
Libby Emmons
All you have to do is go buy a company that already does that.
Matthew Farachi
Right?
Tim Pool
Brand it white label.
Matthew Farachi
No, what you need to do is it needs to have the hat on. The.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, the beanie, the jar cover.
Matthew Farachi
The hat needs to be over the top.
Libby Emmons
Yeah, I think that would be great.
Matthew Farachi
And you can put it on your child.
Phil
Just super glue it on. Right?
Matthew Farachi
That's right.
Phil
I think that's pretty good. Like I said, you've got pool water. Why not Timchi?
Libby Emmons
I always have kimchi in my bro.
Tim Pool
I'm not, I'm not even kidding. Like when I was little, I have, I have, you know, I have a Korean side of my family. And so we'd go out and we'd hang out and they're like, they'd be making kimchi and I just, it was like, it's gross. I don't want it. And as I get older, it's the only thing I want.
Libby Emmons
Well, that's in your taste buds yet. That's what my kid used to say to me. I don't like it.
Matthew Farachi
Mom. Are they.
Tim Pool
Korean barbecue is the greatest restaurant of all time for a variety of reasons. Green barbecue meat, heavy cooked by you with no bs. They come with a big chunk of beef tallow to grease the grill. You get the meat, you cook it as you see fit and then you get fix ins like kimchi, onions and jalapenos. And you don't got to put junk on it. My favorite thing ever.
Matthew Farachi
Have you had non marinade soups that are. I think they're traditionally from the north, but they're like dumplings and there's like huge beautiful bowl of soup.
Tim Pool
Oh, I've not had that. Have you ever had shabu?
Matthew Farachi
What's the shabu?
Libby Emmons
Shabu Shabu, like the hot pot.
Tim Pool
They give you a pot of boiling water or they'll put like soup and like different kind of broths and they'll get. And then you either order or go up. There's one nearby in Winchester. It's awesome. It's at the. I recommend if you guys ever get a chance, go to the hot pot at the Apple Valley. Apple Blossom or the Apple Valley. I don't know the mall in Winchester. You walk into this big room with all these fridges and they have meats, veggies. You pick what you want, bring it back to your table, you choose the base you want. You can do like a miso base or like a chicken stock. And then you boil your own food. It's just, it's so awesome.
Libby Emmons
And you put the noodles in, in the little basket and.
Matthew Farachi
A fun experience.
Libby Emmons
Yes, it is fun and it's delicious.
Tim Pool
I go, but Korean barbecue is the greatest thing ever. I'm sorry. Right, so there's a. There's. Our favorite place is Gogi 92 in Leesburg.
Libby Emmons
That place is delicious because they half
Tim Pool
cook it for you. There are some places that'll bring the meat and say bye and then you have to literally do everything. This place will bring the meat to you, prepare it for you and then, then it's on you. And if you don't want to, they'll come and they'll, they'll help you out with it and they're always super nice. And my favorite thing about it is the guys who work there dress up like Akatsuki from Naruto sometimes. So they're walking around in the. It's like the anime robes, the forehead protectors, and I'm like, this is my place. I would like to. And then. And you get. I just get kimchi for days.
Libby Emmons
Do you know, almost like, so many times that I'll go there, something weird happens. Like, we were there. When we were there during the Butler rally, and I was looking at it, I was like, oh, my goodness. Trump got shot.
Tim Pool
And then you were at Gogi.
Libby Emmons
I was at Gogi 92. And the waiter was like, wait, what? And we all just stood there watching the video for a while, letting me
Matthew Farachi
stay away from that restaurant.
Tim Pool
And then the worst thing is, I know it's so good right across the street, then.
Matthew Farachi
I love the bubble tea.
Libby Emmons
I always get the job.
Tim Pool
Two bubble tea places.
Libby Emmons
Yeah. We always get a thing like a bunch of beef and. Or meat, and then japchae.
Matthew Farachi
Bubble tea is legit.
Tim Pool
I love it.
Libby Emmons
That stuff is so good.
Tim Pool
So we get our Korean barbecue flavor of bubble tea. Oh, gee.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah, Just the basic milk tea with the. With the.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Milk tea.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
Of bubbles.
Tim Pool
No sugar or just, like, quarter sugar?
Phil
A little bit.
Tim Pool
I don't. You know, the bubbles are very sugary.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
We're gonna go to your rumble. Rants and super chats, smash the, like button. Share the show with everyone you've ever met, and eat kimchi while you're at it.
Matthew Farachi
Kimchi.
Tim Pool
I was just reading a thing about how it's clear they've done tests, and they said that it cleared out microplastics and the gut bacteria reduced weight. And people had reported, like, less brain fog and feeling more energized. Like, it's not literally just the kimchi. It's eating healthy, but, you know, there's always kimchi. You know, I'm saying, like, you know,
Matthew Farachi
spice is good for you.
Tim Pool
All right, Jolly. 1976 says Timchi.
Matthew Farachi
We're there.
Tim Pool
We're there. Telling you, General, 45 cases. I believe that we, America, should do anything and everything to defeat China, including the conflict in Iran. And I really mean anything. Take that as you will. Look, I have. I have fears and concerns. There's no guarantee the war in Iran results in success. We know what the most likely reason for Trump doing it is, and I think it's a tremendous risk. And I'm not a fan of interventions. That being said, me explaining you to you, the reason why he did it is not support of it. Also, that being said, I am not. You know, I have long. I have. I have long said I don't agree with US Interventions. We have not yet seen boots on the ground right now. We've gone through tremendous expenditure of ordinance. I am not a big fan of it, but we're also not occupying a country with our troops. And, like, it's not good. But I'm not like, guys, it's not the same thing as Iraq and Afghanistan. There's different degrees of bad.
Matthew Farachi
I talked to a guy yesterday who I can't mention on the show, but he's a guy who knows things, and he told me something really interesting. He said that the, the administration's real goal here, which I like, is that they're pressuring Iran so that in the near future, the US Oil companies will be essentially pumping out and managing Iran oil.
Tim Pool
The Emirates just dumped opec, which will
Matthew Farachi
essentially pay for what we're doing. And the reason I believe that is Trump had a particular issue with us spending all this money on the Gulf wars and nobody paying us back for anything. He's been pushing NATO to pay their fair share. And I really do believe. Look at what he's already done in Venezuela. It's basically a puppet state of the United States, and we own it. And I do believe that that's the, the goal in Iran is to control their income.
Tim Pool
Let me. Let me. Fun Griff says, Tim, men want family, kids in duty. We can't get it because 60% of women want only the top 5% of men. If average men get better, they still only want the top five. We need to fix the cultural problem. I completely agree with that, but I don't think that discounts that.
Matthew Farachi
There are.
Tim Pool
Are dudes who don't. There are liberal guys in cities who are like, I just don't want to have kids. And they're. And they're telling women they want to have kids, and then they become weirdo nihilists with no purpose or duty. I'm not saying that is all men. I'm saying those are the bad ones. That being said, did you guys see the video of the Asian woman freaking out, screaming about how she can't get. You got. You saw this one? You're nodding.
Phil
I think so.
Tim Pool
Was it the one where she's screaming how she makes half a million dollars a year and she can't find a man? No man wants to be with her. And she was like, in her 30s and she's like, she's considered leftovers that nobody wants to be with. And it's just like, I don't care if women are offended by this. Your. Your, your booze mean nothing if you are an aging careerist woman. Any man is going to say, I don't need a business partner, I need a mother.
Matthew Farachi
Yep, that's it.
Tim Pool
Thank you. Have a nice day.
Matthew Farachi
Amen. Tim.
Tim Pool
Get mad about it all day. You want? That's fine. I got no beef. I'm not. If I meet a woman and she's like, I have no kids, I want to be a CEO, I'll be like, oh, congratulations. But then don't get mad and go on video screaming like, why won't mendy? Because guys are saying, I'm really proud that you're going to be the CEO of a company. I wish you all the best success. Let me know if we can ever work together. I'm gonna go find a mother for my children who wants to help make my home right. While I fight wild bears to feed my family right.
Libby Emmons
Well, this is the thing too. You have the socialists demanding that we have universal child care, but if they actually cared about families, they'd suggest that we have better jobs manufacturing back home and have affordable housing so that one of the. Will you stay home and take care of the kids?
Matthew Farachi
Will you stop making so much sense? It's nauseating.
Libby Emmons
I had a mom who was a career woman and I had a stepmom who stayed at home. And it was very interesting even in retrospect, just looking at the differences between the two.
Phil
The, you know, Murphy Brown did a series. You want to talk about Gen X?
Matthew Farachi
Oh, yeah, stuff.
Phil
Murphy Brown did a serious disservice to our, our society by implying that you could be a CEO and a mom. You can be a CEO or a mom, but if you're a CEO. Well, yeah, she, she had a. But she had a full time career. But the point, the point that I'm making is you can be one or the other. And if you decide that you want to have a career, someone else is raising your child, you're gonna see them a little bit at night maybe if you get home at a decent hour, maybe you'll see, you'll see them on the weekends, I'm sure. But the majority of your child's life is gonna be raised by someone else. If you want to be a mother, you don't have the time to put into a career where you could excel to like the upper echelons of the business, whatever business you're in.
Matthew Farachi
Yes, you're right.
Phil
You can do one or the other. You cannot do both. And young women have decided, a lot of them at least have decided that they want to be a CEO. There are some that say, oh, I can do both. I'll go ahead and I'll excel at my career, and then I'll settle down. Well, guess what? Men have a say in this. And they're saying, I want the younger woman that doesn't want a career. You know what I mean? And that's. That's obviously clear. That's what's happening.
Tim Pool
True story.
Matthew Farachi
I had a friend in D.C. that called me, and he's in a situation like that, and he asked me if I could find him an accent coach. And I said, what do you mean, an accent coach? He said, for my son. Why do you need an accent coach for my son? Because my coach speaks the accent of his nanny and doesn't know how to speak like an American. And I said, instead of doing that, why don't you just talk to your kid, raise your child? Yeah, yeah. All right, Tim.
Tim Pool
No, I will. We'll just grab some more of this. We got the Citizen Rage says, I sub to AIU and your Discord. Are you familiar with Devin Tracy? He's accusing Matt Walsh of stealing his work on Central Park 5. Tulsa Riots and lynchings. And I agree. What's your favorite punk band? Sublime. And I sing better than Ian. Sublime isn't punk. Sorry. They're not. What are they dubbed?
Phil
Oh, you're not. They're not God awful, in my opinion, but Sublime.
Tim Pool
It's dub, isn't it?
Libby Emmons
I mean, it's not good. Whatever it is.
Tim Pool
You don't like Sublime. You guys are wrong. It's not punk, but sublime I still very much enjoy.
Phil
It's the band that did Santeria, right?
Matthew Farachi
Yes.
Libby Emmons
Yeah.
Phil
I'm not into them.
Tim Pool
Oh, yeah. I love it. 40 ounces to freedom. Great, great album. A lot of good covers. Ball and Chain, really great songs. Bad Fish. Epic. But it's. It's like. It's like dub. It's like SoCal reggae, punk.
Unidentified Narrator/Voiceover
Yes.
Tim Pool
You know.
Matthew Farachi
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Well, not a punk band, but they did do some punk stuff.
Matthew Farachi
What's the album you said you like the best, Tim?
Tim Pool
40 ounces of freedom.
Matthew Farachi
Okay.
Tim Pool
But they basically had two albums because Bradley Noel died. They had. I think his son is, like, Frontier. Yeah. Yeah. Fronting for. What's the name of the. What's the name of the band?
Phil
I think it's sublime.
Tim Pool
It's sublime. Is it sublime because they had Long Beach Dub All Stars, but I thought they had like a. Oh, it's. Is it his son? No, because they. Was it Roman? I think so. What's the guy's name? I haven't really followed it all that much. A video where he ran to somebody and was like, oh, I know you. I'm son of favorite punk band. You know, I don't know. They're all bad these days. The Defiant.
Phil
There you go.
Tim Pool
They stay true to their, their, to their views, their defiance of the machine. They were all in big bands that, you know, for some of them were less than honorable for others. They stood with their friends and joined them. And the Defiant's got a bunch of really great songs. It's, it's really, it's. It's fantastic. I'm a big fan. Yeah. So that's the easy one. It's hard for me to say any of these old punk bands are my favorite anymore because they all bent the knee to the machine and started singing like. All hail the Machine.
Libby Emmons
Rage in favor of the Machine.
Tim Pool
Rage on behalf of the Machine.
Phil
Yeah, my favorite punk.
Tim Pool
All right, we are going to go to the uncensored portion of the show@rumble.com Timcast IRL. So smash that like button, share the show, all that good stuff. Thank you guys for hanging out. Don't miss the uncensored portion. You can follow me on X and Instagram. Timcast. Matthew, do you want to shiny thing out?
Matthew Farachi
Yes again. I just want to remind people that America's most precious freedom is religious freedom. If you can't express what you believe, you can't express anything. So indeed friendly psa.
Libby Emmons
I would like to shout out a new sponsor that we have at the post. Millennial and the Pod Millennial. It's this cool new company called Sound Money. It's basically a platform where you can buy gold as easy and bit as Bitcoin and send it as easy as Venmo. So that's exciting. I'm really grateful to them for sponsoring us. And you can check them out at sound money. Sound.money/libby. Thanks.
Phil
I am Phil that remains on Twix and Patreon. The band is all that remains. You can check out our stuff on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. Carter.
Tim Pool
I'm Carter Banks. You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere, mainly on X and then at Carter Banks official on Instagram and whatnot. We have the Defiant on Trash House sessions back in the day. Their stuff is still up on our YouTube. So if you get a Trash House, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta do it again with them and get better audio. Yeah, yeah, no, we do.
Phil
We.
Tim Pool
That was like a first time ever thing right, Phil, what's your favorite punk band?
Phil
Cannibal Corpse.
Tim Pool
All right, we'll see you guys@rumble.com Timcast IRL. Thanks for hanging out.
Episode: Non Citizens VOTED, NJ Registered THOUSANDS, DHS Declares WAR w/ Matthew Faraci
Date: July 22, 2026
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Matthew Farachi (Torch QRF), Libby Emmons (The Post Millennial), Phil Labonte (All That Remains), Carter Banks
This episode dives deep into the explosive revelation that thousands of non-citizens were registered to vote in New Jersey—and that 400 actually cast ballots—due to a software “error.” The panel explores the implications of this for election integrity, government accountability, and broader political strategy. On top of this, they tackle the rise of socialism within Democrat circles, the fracturing on the Right after Charlie Kirk's assassination, tech censorship, culture wars, and the ongoing Cold War with China.
On Voter Fraud & Systemic Issues:
On Generational Purpose:
On Internal Right-wing Drama:
On Current Events Grifting:
This episode is quintessential Timcast IRL: bracingly contrarian, irreverent, and broad-ranging—touching on the granular (NJ voter systems) to the existential (purpose, family, war). The speakers blend breaking news with personal anecdotes, dry humor, and candor, especially around Right-wing movement infighting since Charlie Kirk’s death.
The tone is conversational but combative, with the group quick to dismiss mainstream progressive arguments and equally eager to diagnose dysfunction within their own coalitions.
For deeper dives:
Key takeaway:
Election integrity, generational malaise, and internal struggles on the Right are all converging against a backdrop of rapid geopolitical shift and cultural warfare. The solution, per the panel? Restore purpose, families, and honesty in politics—and maybe eat more kimchi.