Pennyx2 & Zeek Arkham Uncensored: Trump WH Says Biden Knew About Drones

Summary

Timcast IRL Podcast Summary Episode: Pennyx2 & Zeek Arkham Uncensored: Trump WH Says Biden Knew About Drones
Release Date: February 2, 2025
Host/Author: Timcast Media
Description: Hosted by Tim Pool, Timcast IRL delivers hard-hitting news and analysis on politics, culture, and current events. This episode delves into government transparency, technological advancements, and political dynamics surrounding drone activity in New Jersey.

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1. White House Clarifies New Jersey Drones

The episode opens with a discussion about the recent drone activity over the northeastern United States, specifically New Jersey. The White House, through Press Secretary Carolyn Levette, stated that the drones were not hostile entities but were authorized by the FAA for research and other benign purposes.

• Carolyn Levette's Statement (00:00 - 01:06):

  "The drones that were flying over New Jersey in large numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for research and various other reasons."

• Host Reactions: Hosts express skepticism about the White House's explanation, questioning the true origin and intent behind the drones.

  • Host 1 (01:44):

    "I mean, I'm not sure exactly who the enemy this White House believes is. I'm not sure exactly who she means by the enemy."

  • Host 2 (01:54):

    "Iran."

  The conversation quickly shifts to speculation about foreign involvement, including mentions of Iran and China.

2. Speculations on Foreign Drone Origins

The hosts debate the possibility of the drones being from foreign adversaries or domestic hobbyists. They reference rumors and congressional statements suggesting potential Iranian drones operating as a "mothership."

• Host 3 (02:07):

  "Was it a congressman said there was an Iranian mothership?"

  • Host 1 (02:11):

    "Congress is a clown show. There's 435 of them. They let anybody in."

This segment highlights distrust in governmental explanations and raises concerns about foreign surveillance or sabotage.

3. Government Secrecy and Classified Technologies

Transitioning from drones, the hosts discuss the broader issue of government secrecy, particularly in the realm of advanced physics and technology. Inspired by Mark Andreessen's appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast, they speculate that the federal government may be withholding groundbreaking scientific discoveries.

• Host 2 (03:30):

  "They like to classify stuff. They like to keep secrets."

• Host 5 (10:23):

  "There's a thick accent and a lot of it was over my head, but I was kind of following along. The guy is fascinating."

The conversation touches on topics like warp drive, gravitational wave generators, and plasma compression fusion devices, suggesting that such technologies could revolutionize warfare and everyday life.

4. Advancements in Artificial Intelligence and Robotics

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the rapid advancements in AI and robotics, particularly Tesla's contributions. Hosts debate the implications of real-time learning AI, autonomous vehicles, and the integration of AI with physical machines.

• Host 1 (19:02):

  "I just got a Tesla in November, and I am astounded at how good the full self-driving is."

• Host 2 (15:15):

  "What's next is that thought is going to have access to tools like it can call a calculator to do math."

• Host 3 (16:56):

  "There are varying levels of it, and I'm sure that there are a lot of things that we don't have access to yet, but it is all coming and it's coming quickly."

The hosts express both excitement and concern over AI's potential to manipulate gravity, perform complex tasks autonomously, and integrate seamlessly into human life.

5. Viewer Calls: Deportations and Tax Abolition Bill

Listeners join the discussion with questions about the administration's deportation policies and a proposed bill to abolish the IRS and income taxes. The hosts provide their opinions, emphasizing skepticism towards the bill's feasibility and potential consequences.

• Caller 2 (24:41):

  "Do you think that any of this might cause some blowback towards our citizens that are traveling abroad...?"

• Host 1 (35:16):

  "This is not going to pass. This is not going to be something that Donald Trump has the ability to just say, we're going to do this. It will be challenged and it's going to fail."

The discussion underscores a belief that the proposed tax changes are highly unlikely to succeed and warns listeners against relying on such legislative shifts.

6. Political Analysis: Biden Administration and Future Prospects

Further into the episode, the hosts analyze the Biden administration's actions, including pardons and impeachment discussions. They critically assess the administration's integrity and effectiveness, often voicing strong opposition.

• Host 5 (40:29):

  "Given this assessment, could it be ruled that he was unfit to make the pardons that he did before he left office?"

• Host 1 (43:00):

  "I do not believe that this is going to get rid of your tax burden. You must behave as if this is not going to pass."

• Host 4 (45:24):

  "Protecting a BLM rally and he invited himself to the funeral... I went, oh, no, no, that's it. I'm done."

The hosts express disillusionment with the current administration, advocating for stronger political shifts and leadership changes to rectify perceived governmental flaws.

7. Closing Thoughts and Future Outlook

In the final segments, the hosts reflect on the broader political landscape, the impact of past administrations, and the potential for future change under different leadership. They remain hopeful about the political shifts and the role of informed citizens in shaping the country's direction.

• Host 2 (52:10):

  "We went from what felt like real life to what felt like... overdone movie."

• Host 1 (57:42):

  "Donald Trump is the manifestation of that kind of sentiment."

The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to stay informed and engaged, emphasizing the importance of leadership in addressing national challenges.

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Notable Quotes:

• Host 1 (01:44):
  "I'm not sure exactly who the enemy this White House believes is."

• Host 2 (01:54):
  "Iran."

• Host 1 (05:58):
  "There is no one in the United States that makes drones. All of the drones in the US are Chinese made."

• Host 2 (15:15):
  "What's next is that thought is going to have access to tools like it can call a calculator to do math."

• Host 1 (35:16):
  "Do not expect this to get rid of your tax burden."

• Caller 2 (24:41):
  "Do you think that any of this might cause some blowback towards our citizens that are traveling abroad?"

• Host 4 (45:24):
  "He invited himself to the funeral and then started... I went, oh, no, no, that's it. I'm done."

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This episode of Timcast IRL offers a provocative exploration of governmental transparency, technological advancements, and the current political climate, encouraging listeners to question official narratives and stay vigilant about the direction of national policies.

Transcript

[Host 1]

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[Host 2]

Of the United States? That was just shared. I do have news directly from the President of the United States that was just shared with me in the Oval Office. From President Trump directly, an update on the New Jersey drones. After research and study. The drones that were flying over New Jersey in large numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for research and various other reasons. Many of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational and private individuals that enjoy flying. Jones. In meantime, in the. In time, it got worse due to curiosity. This was not the enemy.

[Host 1]

I mean, I'm not sure exactly who the enemy. This White House believes strong, easy. I'm not sure exactly who she means by the enemy.

[Host 2]

Iran.

[Host 1]

Pardon me?

[Host 2]

Iran.

[Host 1]

Well, there was. I think there was. There were rumors going around. They were saying that it was. That it could have been Iranian drones. Right.

[Host 2]

Because, yeah, I heard about subs off the coast. It could have been Chinese drones. I heard all kinds of different.

[Host 3]

Was it a congressman? Said there was an Iranian mothership?

[Host 2]

Yeah, something like that.

[Host 1]

Congress is a clown show. There's 435 of them. They let anybody in. Okay. They let anyone in. You don't have to be a serious person to be a congressperson. Ask AOC or Maxine Waters.

[Host 2]

Oh, I can't handle her.

[Host 1]

Who?

[Host 2]

Maxine Waters or AOC specifically.

[Host 1]

I mean, listen, I kind of agree.

[Host 4]

I wouldn't mind handling aoc, you know.

[Host 1]

Oh, it's the after show. You say that kind of stuff. It's fine.

[Host 5]

You can swear and everything.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Host 2]

I didn't say she didn't look good. I just can't handle listening to her talk.

[Host 1]

Yeah. You know, did she say that they're all.

[Host 3]

That they were all. Not like that. They're all government drones or hobbyists.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I thought what was interesting, they said for. For research purposes and other purposes. Like, what is that. What does that even mean?

[Host 1]

So there's.

[Host 2]

They tell us. They told us that it's not the enemy, maybe, and that's like, kind of all that I heard.

[Host 1]

I mean, they're alluding to it that the United States has, you know, understands what all of them were there for research purposes. I mean, probably defense. Yeah, I mean, I. I have heard rumors of searching for radioactive material and. And the like. I mean, obviously that's, you know, can't be confirmed, or at least I can't confirm it. And it's possible. I mean, who knows?

[Host 5]

And Penny, you. You're big on the future, which I agree with you, the future of the drone warfare. So maybe they're getting practicing.

[Host 2]

I mean, maybe it's our own drones. Maybe we are practicing with our own drones. Maybe we were just, you know, scoping ourselves. I don't know what it was. I don't understand why. If it is what they said, which is our own research, why didn't Biden say anything? Why didn't they. Why did they let us freak out for weeks? I mean, that people were panicking, well, you know, over these drones, and they didn't say a damn thing about it then, and now it's like, innocuous.

[Host 1]

Well, like Zeke was saying earlier, like, the government likes to classify stuff. They like to keep secrets.

[Host 4]

Yeah, I mean, I was actually just about to say that, you know, if it really was just, you know, just a dry run, why didn't Biden or why didn't KJP or anyone just go, hey, listen, you're going to see some drones. That's us. Don't freak out. They're going to do some circles, loop de loops and all that, and you'll be fine. Okay? It's us. Don't worry about it. Why? Why? Like, this was huge news for a long time, for a couple of weeks. Why didn't they come out and just say, hey, listen. Yeah, no, sorry, we dropped the balls. We didn't tell you it's us. Why the secrecy? Why. Why the conjecture? Why the questions? And they just sat there on their hands and said nothing.

[Host 3]

I bet they were floating. The potential for people falling for a false flag. They're like, are they going to buy this? Iranian mothership bullshit. Somebody, the congressman said someone very high in the department somewhere told him it was an Iranian mother. So he was seeded that information by somebody. And it's possible that if for whatever reason, the public being like, my God, it's Iran, it's Iran, then they would have drummed up some war propaganda to go after Iran. But because it didn't stick, now they just didn't say anything.

[Host 4]

But I mean, my question though is now like, okay, that could be it. You know, they want to see how far this goes. Okay, but don't, you don't think that some guy with, with a high powered now sniper rifle is going to be like, I'm going to be the one to take these drones down and he's going to do it and then see, you know, there's a big United States flag somewhere on the drones. Hey, listen guys, it's our own government. Like, why, why not just come out and just say, hey, listen, this is what I'm doing.

[Host 2]

We got a drone program.

[Host 4]

Yeah, we got a drone program.

[Host 2]

I'd be like, thank God we got a drone program.

[Host 1]

I mean, it's, it. Well, I mean, there's no secret about the fact that we have a drone program. We've been using drones to shoot missiles at, you know, at goat herders in Afghanistan for 20 years. You know, so there's, there's, there's no question about whether or not we have a drone program. It's just a matter of, you know, what kind of drones, what kind of.

[Host 2]

Top secret drones do we have and what's our manufacturing capacity for those drones is what I'm really concerned about. Right. Like, I think we need to be able to print millions and millions and millions of these drones.

[Host 1]

So as far as private sector drones, there is no one in the United States that make drones makes drones. And that's because of regulations, because the United States has said that you are not going to, you cannot make a drone that will work outside of line of sight unless the person running it has a pilot's license. And so because of that, there are no drone manufacturers in the United States. All of the drones in the US Are Chinese made.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Every single drone that you get in the United States is made in China. And that also is a massive, massive national security threat. Because if there is a drone that has WI fi and has a camera that is flying through the air now, they still have the same obligation legally, but they don't, they don't, like, they don't follow up. The FAA doesn't follow up on It. So if there's a drone that has WI fi connectivity, which they all do, and has a camera, then China can access all of that, and there's nothing that anyone can do to stop them.

[Host 4]

So they want to ban Tik Tok, but they don't want to ban these drones that are being flown all over the place.

[Host 1]

Not only do they not want to, they actively destroyed a drone industry in the United States by legislation. Then I, I heard this on the. I forget which. I think it was the, the Joe Rogan podcast. Mark Andreessen was talking about it. That's a great. If you haven't listened to the Mark Andreessen episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, listen to it.

[Host 2]

He's had some bangers lately.

[Host 1]

Well, you know who, you know I'm talking about.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

If you haven't listened to it, you really, I can't urge you strongly enough. Listen to that. Everything that Mark Andreessen has been doing lately, his, all of his podcast appearance, he did Alex Friedman one, which I haven't listened to the whole thing. But the Joe Rogan one, I think that he was on trigonometry with constant Constance kissing and I forget his friend's name. Listen to the stuff that Mark has been saying. Because it's brilliant. Absolutely. It's super important. He talks about why the, why he went from being a lifelong Democrat to becoming a Trump supporter, why he did a fundraiser for Trump. He talks about the fact that the United States has classified entire fields of physics. After World War II, they classified entire fields of physics. Eric Weinstein. Weinstein. Weinstein was talking about this as well. He was on, I think he was on Chris Williamson's podcast talking about this. That there are. That the, the whole of the indus. The whole physics. The whole field of physics. There's been no discoveries that are not string theory for the past 50 years. And all the string theory ones seem like they're wrong. So. And he's, and his, his argument is, look, the, the federal government has classified entire fields of research. So why are they, why wouldn't they have done that? And then Mark Andreessen alluded to that fact as well on the Joe Rogan podcast. Podcast or that that idea. So I don't know. I don't know how true it is, but it's possible that the federal government has totally wiped out the ability of anyone to get funding studying physics that isn't string theory. And that's because, and the reason they would have done that is because they don't want people finding out actual true things. And that means that the fundamental things that make our universe right, there's a whole world of stuff out there that could be discovered if it wasn't for the fact that the government doesn't says, no, we're not going to, we're going to make sure that you can't fund that stuff. Stuff. And again, when Mark was talking about, talking about AI with Joe Rogan, he said that the federal government came and said, look, there's don't invest in AI companies. There's going to be three companies or so that we're going to actually work with. Don't do a startup because we're going to own this property. We're going to own this. It's going to be a couple companies. The government is going to tightly control it. It's not going to be something that the private industry, the private industry is going to do. And then Mark Andreessen said, well, if you're going to do that, then I'm going to throw my support behind Donald Trump. Go listen to if you're watching. I can't recommend strongly enough. Go listen to that podcast.

[Host 3]

So I interviewed this dude named Salvatore Paes. He was a, well, he at one point, aerospace engineer, worked for the United States Space Force, worked at Naval Air Station Pat Patuchant River, I don't know, Navy, Navy designer. But he's got a lot of cool patents. One of them is the induced thrust effect propulsion. Let's see what else he's worked on. Hybrid craft. He's been working on inertial mass reduction. Basically warp drive, this guy. High frequency gravitational wave generators, electromagnetic field generators. Method to generate an electromagnetic field. Like this dude. Plasma compression fusion device. These are all from 2018, 19. And then he gets smeared as like a fraud in the news because he's basically not really a whistleblower, but he's the guy that patented a bunch of stuff for the Navy. I have an interview on YouTube with him. He's got a thick accent and a lot of it was over my head, but I was kind of following along. The guy is fascinating, this dude.

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[Host 3]

And, and I, I think very, very clearly we, we have warp drive capability where we're able to compress space and then get pulled towards the compression.

[Host 2]

I interviewed Ashton Forbes, that's also on my YouTube channel. And he's a big UFO guy, right? And, and what was it, the Malaysian flight?

[Host 5]

A little, the little orbs going around.

[Host 2]

Orbs going around it, right? So like that ties right in with this drone stuff. And who knows, maybe that classified physics is some sort of anti gravity stuff and it could even be related to these stories, right?

[Host 1]

I mean it's certainly something that I don't understand. And if they're, if, if human beings have discovered a way to manipulate gravity without a, without actually having, you know, enough mass to do it naturally, right? If, if, if gravity is, is somehow, if you can somehow manipulate it with, first of all, with the amounts of energy that we can, can we concurrently produce, right? And without having some massive object to do the shaping of space time, then I mean, all bets are off, you know, as, as to what, what you could do with that kind of technology. I mean to, to call it revolutionary is, is such a massive understatement because.

[Host 3]

If you could, if you could move through the air like by compressing it, you could do that underwater.

[Host 1]

Well, you're talking about, are you talking about compressing air? Are you talking space?

[Host 3]

You compress space itself. So like if you could do that out here above us, you could hypothetically do it underwater as well and move like at the same speed, regardless of the medium that you're in?

[Host 1]

Well, I mean, I, I guess, yeah, that, that would make sense. You know, AI is going to figure.

[Host 2]

Out all this stuff for us, right? It's classified. It's classified from funding students at universities to, to do this stuff. But you know what? They're not going to be able to stop China's AI and everyone else's AI and eventually it's going to start doing math and figuring out this physics stuff.

[Host 1]

So this is, this is a question that I, this is something that I am not, I mean, I'm not super smart when it comes to AI stuff, but the way that I understand AI right now, is it because it needs a gigantic database of actual information that we have, Can AI actually be created creative or is it limited to only things we know? As in, if we don't know something, could AI imagine it? Because the Only thing that it has to go off of is things that we do know.

[Host 2]

Okay, so, so the way that these popular LLMs were created initially was they're literally just predicting the next character based on a huge body of knowledge, right? And it's, it's tokens, not characters. The tokens might be two characters or whatever, but it's not even whole words, right? It's putting out characters at a time and it's, and it's just sort of guessing what's next. So it's really smart. What they've done recently is start putting that in loops, right? So now it's reading its own stuff, evaluating its own stuff and improving on it. And that's kind of like thinking, right? That this deep seek from China, what really sets it apart, aside from being cheaper than the other LLMs, is that it explains its thinking to you. You type in your query, it spits out like a page of thought first and then after that it gives you the answer.

[Host 5]

Wow.

[Host 2]

So what's next is that thought is going to have access to tools like it can call a calculator to do math. It's going to read itself. Realize this is a math problem and when I have math problems, I use a calculator. And then it's going to use the calculator, right? It's going to also be able to start asking itself questions and getting curious and all that it needs is curiosity. And then it can start to find out all different things. It can gather data, right? So right now it's running off data that it has, but there's a bunch of Tesla cars driving, recording the world around it, recording the physics around it. That data now goes into the computer, right? It's going to be real robots. Yes.

[Host 1]

That's something that people don't realize like that the. I, I'm like, I'm a big Tesla, I'm a big fan of Tesla's, their work on AI. People don't realize how much progress Tesla has made on AI because of their real world access to cars, driving around.

[Host 2]

Getting into the physical world. Real world AI, it's a different thing. And there really aren't many companies that are in it like they are. And that's why, I mean, that's a separate show. But I could talk about Tesla all day. I love their stuff.

[Host 3]

There's what is a generative AI, I think is the AI that can learn on the fly that if you tell it something, it will then integrate what you just told it into its next response. But then there's the general AI that we have access to, like OpenAI, where it's all giving you all its data based off of like 2024's database. So if you turn the program off and then turn it back on, it doesn't remember anything before the 2024 data. So it's like a fresh conversation again. But then there's other AI that's generative, by the way, that's still considered generative.

[Host 2]

Generative.

[Host 3]

There's a term for the AI that is learning in real time, but we don't have access to it as a public. They think it's too dangerous. The AI will even tell you if you ask it, why can't you learn in real time? It's like, it's too dangerous for people. I think Facebook is experimenting with one and people start talking about Nazis. And then it started getting, like, becoming very racist. And they were like, oh, shit, shut it down, shut it down.

[Host 2]

There's more and more of that available now, though. Like I talked about in the regular show, my friend put her shopping list into OpenAI. It goes on the Internet and orders it for her now. So they're opening up more and more capabilities of these things and they do think for themselves now. Like I said, Deep seat shows you what it's thinking before it outputs. So there are varying levels of it and I'm sure that there are a lot of things that we don't have access to yet, but it is all coming and it's coming quickly.

[Host 3]

I think it. It exists behind the paywall. That stuff for the governments have the AI that's learning on the fly and it's responding as if it's like a.

[Host 2]

Kind of like a person Grok on X can read the latest. Like if I posted something and then you asked Grok about me, within 30 seconds it knows about that post that I made and all the news from the day is on there. They now are able to start to call search queries. Right. So both the Deep SEQ as well as OpenAI, they can go out to the Internet. If you ask a question it doesn't know the answer for, you might have to use the paid version of it. But I'm telling you, man, the what was available just three, four months ago is way different than what's available now.

[Host 1]

The database that Tesla has access to with Grok with by owning X, like, the purchase of X, $44 billion was an absolute steal. Yes, it was a steal.

[Host 2]

Especially when you consider he saved America.

[Host 1]

Yes, absolutely. Yes.

[Host 2]

It's really a good.

[Host 1]

I mean, that that if you, like in 10 years, I wouldn't be surprised if we, if, if people look back and say Musk paying $44 billion for that was the best deal in human history because of the power that the AI has. When you combine the entire database of Twitter and the database that Tesla has.

[Host 2]

And it's all real time, it's all.

[Host 1]

Real time in the real world. I mean, I just got a Tesla in, in the fall, in November, and I am astounded at how good the full self driving is. And it's still technically beta and it's still not like you can't actually like look at your phone while you're doing it, but I understand that this year is going to be when they actually release it, so you can, you can actually let it do its thing.

[Host 2]

Yeah, that's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. They think they're going to have the robo taxis fully unsupervised on the road this year. I mean, that blows my mind. And it's only January, so it could definitely happen. I also have a Tesla and I've been driving my Tesla for like two years now. I got FSD relatively shortly after I got the car. The amount of progress that it's made in that time has been insane. It went from like I had to take over 10 times every drive at a minimum, to now it's 10 drives until I take over. I mean, that's a huge difference in two years. And I think in the next six months it's going to get to where like it's 100 drives before I take over and hopefully before the end of the year it's like it would take so many drives to take over. We're just going to let you go unsupervised because it's safer than you driving yourself.

[Host 1]

This is why, like we were talking earlier about the robots that they're making, like the servos and the, the, the robots themselves. You look at the stuff that Boston Dynamics is making, like the robots themselves are no longer incredible technology, like the robots themselves, just the actual humanoid robot, the server S, you know, the, the, the, the ability to move around. That's all technology that we've had for decades now.

[Host 2]

Especially if you're talking about pneumatic, like they do at Boston Dynamics. What Tesla is doing is electrifying a lot of that stuff. So they're creating actuators and stuff that didn't exist before. But then they are manufacturing masters. Yes, Right. So they are building it from the Beginning to do it as cheap as possible. And these robots are supposed to be able to pick up like £150 and walk around and they're going to be able to do anything. So like they're, they're gonna make between 1 and 5,000 of them this year. This year they're making between 1 and 5,000. I told you just a few months ago I was hanging out with 20 of them, right? Next year they're gonna make 50,000 to a hundred thousand of them next year in 2026. So like, we are so close. And the software's getting there too.

[Host 1]

Now. That's the, that's the missing piece now being able to be like, hey, go do this. And it just says right O and goes and does it. So but we're gonna get the callers now, I think, right?

[Host 5]

We're gonna be Wally also, by the way.

[Caller 1]

No.

[Host 5]

I know every.

[Host 4]

Well, okay, I'm going full terminated with this.

[Host 5]

But everything we've talked about, they're going to be doing our dishes and we're going to like, you know, these people are going to have them doing laundry stuff. We're all going to be. Not me, but a majority of folks are just going to be Wally.

[Host 3]

I'll be like, people, I'll be like, robot, work me out and it'll take my arms and I'll be like, oh, yeah, this is.

[Host 1]

Okay, this is, this was, this was the argument, this is, this was the argument that people were making about dishwashers. This was the argument that people were making about, you know, about labor saving devices. Like, that's exactly. It's like, oh, once we get, once we get, you know, cars that, that drive everyone can have, then everyone's gonna get out of shape and blah, blah. It's not gonna happen. People are already out of shape.

[Host 5]

Yeah, five bucks ten. Ten years.

[Host 1]

People are already out of shape. The people that are going to be out of shape, they're already out of shape.

[Host 3]

Plus you can be like, robot, prioritize food without seed oils and it'll do all that. You have to think about it. It'll get you the healthiest stuff for the cheap.

[Host 2]

I'm gonna start hunting for myself. I'm gonna be like, robot, make sure that if I can't get my own food that there's something made for me, right? But I'm gonna find a way to keep myself busy. I'm gonna live like a caveman, right? Like, I'll become the best bow hunter I could be because I'll have time.

[Host 1]

To do it look, man, the amount of effort that it takes to clean up your apartment isn't what. What's keeping people skinny. You're right.

[Host 2]

Your apartments are just dirty.

[Host 1]

Yeah, the. The people that want to be healthy and want to be skinny, they're going to be healthy and they're going to be skinny. I'm not going to stop going to the gym just because I got a. I can, you know, get a robot that'll do my laundry.

[Host 2]

The girl robots.

[Host 1]

What?

[Host 2]

The girl robots might be what makes us fat. It's not the ones that clean our house. It's the one where, like, you don't have to be in shape because your robot girlfriend's attracted to you no matter what. Right. Like that. It's like I say earlier, want to, you know, like, I want to prove it. Right. Hard work is how you get happy. But I'm telling you, all the. All the, the incels that are in their basements and they're fat and they got access to nothing right now, that's bad news.

[Host 4]

No, that's why I said earlier, once these things come customizable, it's like, wait a minute. So I can do anything I want to them. All right, give me that one right there with the double Ds and the fat ass. All right, is some, some guy in his basement is going to lose his virginity over.

[Host 3]

There are carbon machines, too. I mean, making it like actual flesh is not far off.

[Host 1]

Yeah, yeah, there, there's, there's companies that make very. The. They're almost. They've almost crossed the uncanny valley.

[Host 2]

They were gonna be like, yes, this year.

[Host 4]

Yeah, it's gonna be like the episode of Family Guy when Quagmire discovers porn on the Internet. One of these basement dwellers are gonna come out of his house, and I'd.

[Host 1]

Be like, oh, he's got the gigantic arm.

[Host 4]

I haven't, I haven't been outside a month. I bought that sex doll. I mean, my AI doll and I.

[Host 1]

All right, so we're gonna do. We're gonna go to callers who do we got?

[Caller 1]

Serge killer donut 85, you are with us.

[Host 1]

Hey, what's going on still?

[Caller 2]

What's going on, guys?

[Host 1]

What's up, man? How you doing?

[Caller 2]

Doing all right. Just chilling a little bit. Like a first time caller, long time listener.

[Host 1]

Well, thank you.

[Host 4]

What's up?

[Caller 2]

Yeah. Oh, not much.

[Host 2]

I.

[Caller 2]

My main question, like, it was from yesterday, but if anyone wants to diamond on it, like, have at it, it's basically in regards to the deportations with the administration. Like, my main question Is, do you think that it might increase any volatile actions towards our citizens that are traveling abroad, as well as our embassies, as well as military assets that are currently in Central and South America? Do you think that any of this might cause some blowback towards.

[Host 2]

Instead of on our own soil, you mean? Yes, I mean, but like, is that, is that worse? Like they're, they're attacking people on our soil now. So we're deporting the criminals and they'll do crime in their own countries. Right. I think we're moving it. I don't think that. I don't think that we're going to get major repercussions for this. Because at the end of the day, it, like, it makes sense. It's not like we're sending them our criminals. We're sending them their own criminals back. It's. I think it's only our own bleeding heart liberals, our own, like, suicidal empathy. I hate the fact that I'm. I have, I'm. I'm white and successful or whatever. Right? Like, they are the people that are like, oh, no, we need to protect the criminals. They. They, you know, we might hurt someone's feelings. I, I'm not worried in the slightest. I think the international opinion of this is going to be like, why didn't they do that a long time ago?

[Host 4]

I think there might be a slight uptick, especially like, some of, like, the more vacation style, the Central American countries, Mexico, Brazil, places like Brazil, things like that. I think there might be a slight uptick. But you gotta remember, our dollars fuel their economy. So, you know, I don't know if you remember, remember a couple years ago there were people getting killed in the Dominican Republic and people stopped going there and Dominican Republic went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we gotta cut this shit out. Like, you know, make this saf that safe. Once people get. Get about three or four news stories in them where, you know, American tourists were attacked or killed in Brazil, Brazil's gonna step up and, you know, especially if people stop going there and be like, all right, listen, make it safe. Ultimately, I'm not worried. I just think. I think we took too long to get to this point.

[Host 2]

We all wear Canada hats when we travel anyway. Right? Isn't that kind of thing.

[Host 5]

But also with the Trump administration, I, I mean, Karioffi and I love the, the fact that if people do start going down like how it used to be back in the day, like, if you're gonna, if you're gonna, if Americans out in your foreign country or in your country, and foreign from us, and you attack American citizen or do something bad to them, then America's gonna be like, yo, shut the up. We're gonna come there, we're gonna hurt you. We're gonna take. Get our citizen back, and we're gonna not let you hurt our people. Biden would never do that. Biden, lets. Jesus, he's terrible.

[Host 4]

He riding. Biden gave back to Russia.

[Host 1]

I know, I know.

[Host 5]

So what? But in this day and age with Trump coming here, fixing things, making things better, I hope he brings the fear to these folks, these bad people who might want to hurt Americans in foreign countries. And I hope that na does that.

[Caller 2]

Okay.

[Host 5]

What?

[Caller 2]

Yeah, yeah. Like, that was my main concern.

[Host 1]

Like.

[Caller 2]

Like, if there was, like, if it was going to just increase any type of hazards or anything for our people down there. And I'm killing the embassies because I remember whenever we had briefings before, just because, like, whenever I was in the military, because I was over in Honduras for a while over Soto Kano, just like, stay out of certain areas and stuff like that. Of course, that was military, but yeah, yeah, I know that sometimes, like, the. Like, whenever people travel abroad, they don't get these types of briefings. Like, my main concern was about them.

[Host 5]

Oh, bro, they know. Sorry to cut you off, but they know I was. When we overseas, they know us. They know military service members. Like, they. We don't hide in there. Oh, yeah, you know what I mean? You know how it is.

[Caller 2]

Yeah, well, that's pretty much my question. I appreciate you answering it, guys. Just I know that, like, right now with Trump trying to downgrade to, like, with the. The government. I currently work for the government, but I work for the prison. So I just want to say if anybody's trying to get a job with the Federal Bureau of Prisons, if you have prior military or any law enforcement experience, we would be happy to have you. Right now, we're in dire need of people. We're in a severe shortage. So if you have that, we would like to have you guys there and clean with that type of knowledge, because we need it.

[Host 5]

Well, you work for federal prisons in foreign countries. What'd you say?

[Caller 2]

No, the Federal Bureau of Prisons. Like, okay, like the federal prisons. Like, I currently work over at a penitentiary, so a high security.

[Caller 1]

Nice.

[Host 5]

How's that working out for you?

[Host 1]

All right, well, thanks for calling in, man.

[Caller 2]

It's a lot better than it was because, I mean, with our previous director, she wanted us to call them adults in custody and.

[Caller 1]

Oh, my.

[Host 1]

The.

[Host 5]

Like.

[Caller 2]

Like the pedophiles she wanted us to call them minor attractive persons.

[Host 1]

Oh, God, no. No, no, no, no. Minor attracted persons is an unacceptable phrase. That is absolutely unacceptable. That, that, that, that implies legitimacy to what they do, and there is no legitimate legitimacy to that. It is not. They are not minor attracted people. They are, they are a danger to society and they must be treated as such.

[Caller 1]

Yeah, just ask what Gen Pop calls them. Anyways, thanks for calling in. Appreciate it.

[Host 4]

To all these people who want to use minor attracted people, I say, well, why don't you let these minor attracted people watch your kids for a while? Can you do that?

[Host 1]

No. I have a feeling the people that actually advocate for that kind of vocabulary don't have kids there.

[Host 2]

They are minor attracted people. Right. That's what it is. In the closet or otherwise.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Caller 1]

So, wages of chaos. How are you?

[Host 1]

That sounds like a band.

[Caller 3]

Hey, not bad.

[Host 1]

What's up, man?

[Caller 1]

How you doing?

[Host 5]

Cheers.

[Caller 3]

I'm all right, thanks. Thanks for letting me call in. My question is for whoever wants to answer. So with the recent announcement of the bill that possibly abolishes the irs, repeals the income tax and other taxes, and then it looked like it essentially put the taxes back into the hands of the states, if I read it correctly, what do you think are going to be some of the challenges that the bill faces from passing? And then what does a world look like post irs? No taxes, and then like people who are expecting a refund or owe money, like, do you think this will pass? Like, if it passes, do you think they'll establish it immediately or do you think they'll have to, like, so do some kind of cleanup system?

[Host 1]

Yeah, for, for the, the last question you asked, I cannot, I cannot state this in any stronger terms. Do not expect this to get rid of your tax burden. You must, you absolutely must behave as if this is not going to pass. You need to have the money to pay your taxes. And if you, if you even try to think, oh, you know, maybe this will pass, you're going to end up in a world of, you don't want to do this, you don't want to rely on this. If this does. If the executive order stays in place, right, for more than a few weeks, it will be challenged in court, and then it's going to go to the Supreme Court or it's going to go to the courts. And there's no, there's honestly no reason to believe that the executive has the ability to undo something. A law that was passed by Congress, especially seeing as it took an amendment to make it legal for the federal government to, to pass the income the way it'll pass? Yeah, this is not going to pass. This is not going to be something that Donald Trump has the ability to just say, we're going to do this. It will be challenged and it's going to fail. The only hope of this actually happening is action by Congress. And even if it happens, even if Congress manages to pass a bill that passes the House and the Senate and then Donald Trump signs it, it is very likely that the next Democrat reinstitutes the, the income tax. This is not something that you're going to be able to rely on now if on the outside chance there is an amendment passed that repeals, I forget, I think it's Federal Reserve act of.

[Host 3]

1913, you know, which, that's one of them.

[Host 1]

Well, that's, that's the law. But there, there was a, there was a, an that made it legal for the federal government to actually have an income tax. If there's, if there is an amendment to the Constitution that repeals that amendment, then you can actually bank on this being, being something that you can, you could, you know, base your future planning on. But until that happens, do not plan your future on the idea that there will be no more income tax because the hurdles that have to get that they have to, that this will have to get over are too high to bank on it.

[Host 3]

It's the 16th amendment.

[Host 1]

16Th amendment. So if there is an amendment that repeals the 16th Amendment, then yes, I think you could plan on it for a certain amount of time. I think you could say, okay, now it's safe to not plan on paying income tax this year if there is no amendment. Do not plan on not paying your income tax. You must plan on paying your income tax. Do not believe that this is going to get you out of anything. You will end up in a world of shit. Do you guys have a different, different opinion to me?

[Host 2]

No. If you think about it, even if it became effective this year, we haven't been charging tariffs through January. So like all the income tax that was already paid for anyone who is a Wagey getting a salary, like that's already been collected, they're not going to give it back. Right? So like this year I in the books for taxes, no matter what you're paying income taxes, at least up until the point where we start charging tariffs. If there's a date four months in the future where it's like, okay, the tariffs are these and now you're not paying income tax going forward and all Payroll can remove income tax from payroll. Okay, fine. If they say that on the loudspeaker, payroll can remove income tax from. Okay, fine, then I'll believe it. But until I hear that, like, no.

[Host 1]

Way, no way, then even then it's only going to last as long as this administration or until the next Democrat administration.

[Host 4]

As long as you say that.

[Host 1]

Yeah, go ahead then.

[Host 4]

No, I was just about to say, like, there's nothing that, that says that the next president who is, who's going to be Democrat is going to look at how much money they could be making and pulling from citizens and say, you know what? I'm going to throw everything he did out the window. And you know what? April 15, have those taxes ready. I mean, it's, it's. Unless something is, is, is set in stone, unless there is an amendment, unless it is voted on, unless it is set the way every other law is, it's just going to be put back anyway. So there's, there's. I'm not optimistic about it at all.

[Host 2]

Once I flip California, there's never going to be another Democrat elected into Congress or the president ever again.

[Host 4]

So they work, they're working really hard on Texas. I'm more worried about that. Let's keep Texas red.

[Host 5]

And we'd be mad too if Biden or any of these Dems try to make some EO that we didn't like, like, and we totally changed it right back when we got, we got a chance to be in charge. So, you know, I mean, that's the way it goes. It's chance. It is.

[Host 1]

This is just about your own personal safety. Right? That's that. The whole reason I'm saying this is because it is such a long shot. And the ramifications to any individual that tries to rely on this that says, oh, I'm going to take this money that I was going to pay to the government and I'm going to spend it here or spend it there. It is to your own detriment. You are going to be absolutely, do not do it. You need to, even if you save that money, say, I'm not going to pay it because I think that they're going to blah, blah, blah, don't spend it. Don't spend a dime of it. Like, you need to make sure that when the government says pay me my money, you say, yes, sir, because you're going to lose the gunfight that comes up after that.

[Host 5]

I don't know. What if, what if he moves?

[Host 1]

I do know.

[Host 5]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. What if he moves to Alaska or something like that and lives on the river or the lake.

[Host 1]

I cannot. I cannot exercise strong enough people. Raymond is going to get you in jail. Don't listen to him.

[Host 5]

You don't got to pay taxes.

[Host 1]

Save your money and pay your taxes.

[Host 2]

Seems wise.

[Caller 1]

Anything else, like, to add to that Wages of Chaos?

[Caller 3]

No, I.

[Host 1]

That.

[Caller 3]

That's just. That was the whole. Whole kitten caboodle, like, get. I. I think you guys filled in the blanks pretty clear.

[Caller 1]

Nice. Good one.

[Host 1]

I'm just trying to keep you out of jail, man.

[Host 5]

Amen.

[Caller 3]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I appreciate it.

[Caller 1]

Anything want to shout out, man?

[Caller 3]

Just my book that. This Wages of Chaos that I put on Amazon, but I'm currently kind of trying to rework it and just get that going again.

[Host 1]

Are you.

[Host 4]

Have you been drinking French?

[Host 1]

Are you stoned?

[Caller 3]

No. No, this is how I sound.

[Host 1]

Okay, nice.

[Caller 1]

That's good.

[Host 3]

Is the book available right now or is it not available?

[Caller 3]

Yeah, it's on Amazon, but it's part.

[Host 5]

Of a fantasy series. I see. A part of a fantasy series. It says it's part of a fantasy series involving guardians of a planet trying to contain evil forces. Is that you?

[Caller 3]

Yeah. And I. I wanted to make it a series, but the. It's been really hard, so I. I was just like. I should work on the first book a little bit more and maybe make it a little bit better.

[Host 5]

And best of luck to you, brother. I hope you get good, you know? Yeah, man. Get at that.

[Caller 1]

Yeah, man.

[Host 2]

Best.

[Host 4]

Yeah.

[Caller 1]

With it, you can do it. For sure.

[Host 5]

Appreciate it. Dme on Twitter. He will check it out.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Caller 1]

Cheers. All right, thanks. Take it easy.

[Caller 3]

Good night.

[Caller 1]

Likewise. All right, next we got Wrath with no W. How are you, Wrath?

[Host 5]

I love them through it.

[Host 1]

Are you a Lamb of God fan?

[Host 5]

No.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 5]

Wait, is Rath Lamb of God the same person?

[Host 1]

No, there's a. There's a record.

[Host 5]

Okay.

[Host 1]

I'm a God called Wrath, but it's with the W. Gotcha, guys. What's your question, man? How you doing?

[Host 2]

Good. So my question is for the panel.

[Host 5]

During the documents case, Biden was ruled to be unfit to stand trial.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 5]

Given this assessment, could it be ruled that he was unfit to make the.

[Host 1]

Pardons that he did. Nice.

[Host 2]

Before he left office?

[Host 1]

Well, I mean, he should. If he's unfit to stand trial, it should be considered obvious that he was unfit to be the Commander in Chief. So I think all of the things that would go along with that, including being unfit to make the pardons, would also be true.

[Host 3]

But realistically, you would have to get him out of office. If he was truly unfit, you would have had the VP step in and then he wouldn't have been able to make the pardon. So I think technically the pardons would.

[Host 5]

Stand, but they're Democrats and they're deceptive, dishenous, evil, disgusting people. So I can't believe anything that they say. If we're being honest, their government. So they. He could have been a terrible person, which, I mean, I'm saying. Yes, sir. You're in speakers. Yeah, it. He. If he was unfit to be run through the court systems of the United States of America, he should definitely be unfit for everything else after that. If we're being honest with ourselves. But we're not. We're not being honest because they get away with what they're doing.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 4]

I mean, this has been an openly corrupt administration from day one. Everything that's happened with Hunter Biden, everything that's happened, you know, just with Biden himself and the impeachments and the burisma, everything else, this has been an openly corrupt administration from the front. Him walking out the door and pardoning everyone he can think of, his own, his family, Fauci, all of them, is just. I can't even say I'm surprised because this is just how he's been. So, you know, as far as him not being able to stand trial or being mentally unfit or whatever, they're. They is at the point now where it's like just, this is what we expect from this administration and the shock is going to be having a new administration and who can actually run this country and be competent.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Got anything else for us?

[Host 5]

No, that's all.

[Host 2]

It was pretty much a question of.

[Host 5]

Just like, if since this happened, since these two events happened, is there a way that you could potentially challenge the.

[Host 1]

Rulings of his pardons?

[Host 5]

But I don't know.

[Host 1]

It's possible. Considering Donald Trump was impeached after he got out of office, it's. It might be possible to impeach him. Him now. I don't think we have the votes. Again, this, this comes down to, you know, you have to have the votes in, in the House and in the Senate. So there has to be an appetite for it. It's possible that they could impeach him for abuse of power. And, you know, because of these, it's possible. I just don't know if, if there's any legs or appetite for it. So. And to be honest with you, I don't know that, that, that if they do impeach him. If it undoes anything that he did.

[Host 5]

Appetite. I would say there is. As in folks like us, like. Yeah, there's a strong appetite. You know what I mean? F. Yeah. Well, in that case, then, no.

[Host 2]

Yeah. And that's who has to do it.

[Host 1]

Y. Yeah.

[Host 2]

But to speak to the. The. The corruption that you were talking about. He Biden red pilled me from the beginning of his administration to the end. I went from an uninterested in politics, traditionally voted Democrat, at least in the presidential race, like across my entire.

[Host 1]

Oh, really? Democrat, huh?

[Host 2]

Yeah, my entire adulthood, I mostly stayed out of politics. I would like, you know, vote during presidential elections. And now that was mostly it. And just one thing after another happening during the Biden presidency. And I don't think I'll ever vote for a Democrat again. He ruined it, man. He ruined it. Ruined it for himself, not for me and not for the country. He may have saved the country by being bad enough to save the country, which I think is like that.

[Host 5]

So bad. He saved the country. Thank you, Biden.

[Host 2]

Well, you know, it's like we could have died a slow death where they're like turning up the heat and where the frogs in the water, but instead he turned it up super high. So our feet got hot before we died. And I think that's might have been what happened.

[Host 5]

We hopped out.

[Host 2]

I would have totally. If it wasn't for the Twitter files. If it wasn't for, you know, a bunch of the other things that came out during, like, I probably would have voted for him again. So.

[Host 4]

You know, it's funny you say that because Obama red pilled me. So. Yeah, everything he said, everything he started doing, I was looking at what he was doing with law enforcement, with military. Remember the whole Cambridge Cop thing where. Where he said the cop acted stupidly but then admitted he had no idea what happened? Oh, and then when. When what?

[Host 1]

Really?

[Host 4]

What? Because I was kind of like, like, okay. You know. But then when he. When the. The five Dallas cops got killed.

[Host 5]

Yeah.

[Host 4]

Protecting a BLM rally and he invited himself to the funeral and then started. I went, oh, no, no, that's it. I'm done. Full, full on. Red pilled over to the right side of the street and that's basically what.

[Host 1]

Did George Bush red pill me.

[Host 4]

Really?

[Host 1]

George Bush Jr. Yeah, the. The whole Iraq war. I was a. Died in the wool Republican. I was like, all right, yeah. You know, especially after. Because my, My. My initial, like in, like my initial. I guess the first time that I got interested in politics was impeachment. Of, of Clinton. And I was like, oh, so the, the Republicans are going to tell the truth and the Democrats are lying because Bill Clinton, like, they were constantly saying, oh, it's about a blowjob. It's about a blowjob. And I was like, no, no, it's not about a blowjob. It's about he lied under oath. And if I lied under oath, I go to jail. The president is supposed to be, you know, is supposed to be, you know, there's no one's above the law.

[Host 5]

The best of us. Right?

[Host 1]

Yeah. And, and I was, you know, young and naive, and I was like, okay, well, that means that the Republicans are the ones that tell the truth and the Democrats are the liars. They, they'll, they'll defend their, their guy, you know, and that was my first, you know, exposure to politics. And then when, when the Iraq war happened and yellow cake happened, I was like, oh, they're both liars. Like, silly me, me. And then I was like, who doesn't lie? Ron Paul. That's my guy. You know, so that was, that was mine. So anyways, thanks for calling in. You got anything else for us?

[Host 5]

No, nothing else. Just shout out to the Discord.

[Host 1]

They do have the after after show. I won't be there tonight because I.

[Host 2]

Am starting to feel under the weather and want to go to bed.

[Host 1]

So get some sleep.

[Host 2]

Have a nice night, everyone.

[Host 1]

Cheers, bud.

[Host 5]

We appreciate it, but it's actually called the After Dark show. FYI.

[Host 1]

After Dark. There you go.

[Host 5]

I'm just with you.

[Host 1]

Thank you, Raph.

[Host 2]

You're good. Have a nice night.

[Caller 1]

Cheers, mate.

[Host 1]

All right. Is that everybody?

[Caller 1]

No, it is, in fact, not everybody. Do we still have to speak to MCC? 716009 0. How you doing?

[Host 1]

Unmute it. And I'm not talking about sergeant.

[Caller 1]

Yeah, you are muted, my friend.

[Caller 2]

There we go.

[Host 5]

Hey, there we go.

[Host 2]

Hey, guys, how's it going?

[Host 1]

How you doing? Good evening. Pretty good, man. Good stuff. Had a quick question for you. With all the executive orders that Trump's putting out, it kind of reminded me of kind of how FDR put so much stuff through during the Great Depression and by the time the courts could go through it, you know, it already.

[Host 2]

Served its his purpose.

[Host 1]

You know, you can agree whether or not it worked or not. But, but do you think he's kind of just trying to shotgun things through and see what sticks and get the most done that he can?

[Host 3]

Yes. Yeah.

[Host 1]

I don't know about his intent, but I like the. I like, I like the idea of that being the result. So even if that's not what Donald Trump is thinking, even if he hasn't thought, oh, you know, FDR just shotgun stuff, so much stuff out, and it got the courts busy and blah, blah. And some of it worked and some of it didn't, da, da, da. So we're just going to do that. Even if that's not what he's thinking, if that's the effect it has, I'm on board.

[Host 5]

I don't, I don't know fdr, but our conversation. What.

[Host 1]

I never met him either, but I.

[Host 5]

Our conversation tonight kind of sounds like that way. Whereas, uh, you know, um, Ian and Phil and you gentlemen know way more than I do about fdr. But, uh, yeah, if it works out, that works out. So that's. I like it. If it works out.

[Host 4]

I think Trump is in office acting like a guy, to quote a good friend of mine on X, he's acting like a guy who got impeached twice, got cheated out of a reelection, got attempted, attempted assassinated twice, and is now in there with the biggest chip on his shoulder.

[Caller 1]

Yeah.

[Host 4]

You know, he's in there like, hey, listen, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do everything I can to piss off everyone, and if it works, great, and if it doesn't, I'll just do something else. But I think that's what he's going for.

[Host 2]

He's not worried about re election. He's not worried about nothing except getting the job done. I couldn't be more excited. I mean, like, you know, it doesn't seem like the same president that we had last time around. It's a different guy now. It's a, it's upgraded. This is 2.0.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I, I think that as much as, you know, as much as, you know, people probably think that they would have preferred Donald Trump to win in 2020. I think that the results that we're going to get and the Donald Trump that we're, that we have, we wouldn't have him if it wasn't for the four years that he spent in the wilderness. And I, I'm, I am actually grateful for him losing the way that he did. And because he went into the wilderness, he learned, he learned about what the Democrats intend to do. He learned about the process. He listened to people that told him, this is the way that you should do this. And you look at the people that he surrounded himself with, and it's no longer all of the garbage swamp monsters that were there before. Of course there are going to be people that have some experience in the, in D.C. because there's just so many people that you have to hire and they have to be people that. That can do the job. And I think that there is. There are probably a limited number of people that can, but he's putting good in the right positions. And there is nary a swamp monster. I think there's the. The only person that I hear a lot of criticism about is the labor, the secretary of labor, because she's a union. Union person.

[Host 3]

Someone that I don't know a lot about Marco Rubio, but he struck me as a swamp creature. I don't. Just don't know him apparent. Maybe he's not. I would love to have him on the show. I know he's super busy now, but. Yeah, yeah, he's probably at this point, he's like, fuck. But hopefully that guy, that guy flips it around, man, because he's in a position to do it.

[Host 5]

I mean, I don't. I don't want to toot my own horn. Did I cut you off, sir? No, but I don't want to toot my own horn. But I've said from the get go, God bless Covid and God bless Trump losing the election in 2020.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 5]

Because if we didn't have those things, I would not be sitting at this table without Covid. I would not be sitting at stable and without many people, would not be. Our eyes would not be open without Covid.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 5]

And without Trump losing, we would not have gone through the disastrous debacle of fucking Biden administration.

[Host 3]

I think that what you said earlier about the pot, the temperature getting turned up so fast as a result of all this. Yes. All that. And the co. Like that's true. That was probably the most prolific thing I heard tonight. For me, anyway, like, that is true. That shocked the world. That is great.

[Host 2]

We went from what felt like real life to what felt like, I don't know, overdone movie. Right. It's like that you couldn't script it. It seemed to fake the things that were happen, and it was just one thing after another. And. And I do think that we would have slowly boiled ourselves to death. But he warned. He gave us a warning. He's like, this is what it's going to look like 30 years in the future if you go down this path. And we wouldn't. We would have been ready for it over 30 years, but because it just got turned like, boom. We're like, whoa.

[Host 1]

I think that, I think you guys are partly right. I think the hubris of the Democrats I think that that was a, played a significant role when, when Barack Obama was elected, the Democrats really believed that that was it. Right? They believed that the Democrats were going, they were gonna, they were gonna control. Democrats believed that they were gonna control politics forever. They believed that the Republicans were gonna be relegated to a regional party. They weren't ever gonna be able to actually win, that there would be the, the nomination, the actual debate or the actual political fight was going to be who was going to be the Democrat nominee that goes on to automatically beat the Republicans. And you saw it, the way that they behaved when it came to Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. And when Donald Trump won, even Donald Trump was surprised. Yeah, he was, he was, he thought that he was going to get beat. And when, when Hillary Clinton lost, that's when the Democrat Democrats lost their. And you saw the, you saw the, the absolute abuse of power, horrible abuse of power of the swamp. Because they are, they were all voting Democrat in the, in, in the swamp. They were, they all thought that it was going to be the Democrats. Even the Republicans, they kind of knew your, your, your Bill Crystals and your, your, you know, Jonah Goldbergs and, and those people, they were all like, they were all swamp creatures and they were like, well, we're the Republicans, but we're, we're the, the prim and proper Republicans and we. That might upset the apple cart and blah, blah, blah. And for four years they were after Donald Trump. And then when Joe Biden won one, the Democrats thought that they were getting control back again. They thought, okay, well, now it's clear we can go ahead and we can lock Donald Trump up. We'll go ahead and toss him in jail, we'll come up with stuff and then this will be settled and we'll be back in power. Now they have to acknowledge the fact that, that history isn't over and that the, that the people of the United States, to my actual surprise, because there was a long time where I didn't think Donald Trump was going to win. I thought, I was like, there is no way that they're going to let him win. They're going to do something, whether it be the next attempt on his life is going to be successful or what have you. I really didn't think that Donald Trump was going to win. And the fact that he did win, thank God I was wrong. But the fact that he did win solidified that the Democrats don't have that kind of control and that we need to make serious changes. Indeed, D.C. and I think that, like, you know, it is the best result that we possibly could have had, the way that it went.

[Host 4]

The only thing I'll add to that is the supposed red wave that was supposed to happen in 2020 never happened. So the Democrats took their foot off the gas and said, you know what, we can leave Biden in charge. He's cool, he's safe, he's not going to do anything. Fine. And then he shit the bed so bad at the first debate and then they had to scramble and George Clooney was like, yeah, I met with him a couple weeks ago and, and he wasn't all there. Then they had to drop Kamala Harris in there, who was so scripted and so controlled and everyone knew it. She refused to do just a regular sit down press conference until the very last minute. She refused to do a podcast until the very last minute. She came across as a horrible candidate. And that more than anything, prompted Trump into the office. I think if there had been a red wave, wave, the Democrats will say, you know what, we got to switch up. We're going to send Biden packing. We're going to give Kamala her little consolation prize, whether it be, you know, we'll install her as a senator again in California or maybe just give her governorship, you know, who cares? California don't.

[Host 5]

Yeah.

[Host 4]

And, and, and, and we would probably be looking at President Newsom right about now.

[Caller 1]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Oh, God.

[Host 4]

So that the red wave that didn't happen in 2022 was a great thing.

[Caller 1]

Yeah. I would even say, like, it's crazy to say, but I don't think that without the fracturing of the Democrats after Oct, I don't think we'd be in the situation we're into. Didn't split on that. And like, that whole thing didn't like completely explode. It's. When we were in Miami, I think we came back from Miami or whenever.

[Host 3]

Literally we were in Miami that day.

[Caller 1]

I think we came back from there. And as soon as that happened, I was like, yo, I had way more hope then because I was like, this fractures their, their coalition effect. That's all it is. Two coalitions warring each other right now. And this destroyed that. But yeah, anyways, don't want to keep going too long.

[Host 5]

Phil and Mr. Zeke and everyone, just the last message that Phil said is super positive. That's very, it's very white pill where you just gave out. And I love that.

[Host 1]

It, it, it, it is a bit of a white pill. And, and I'm, I'm thankful for it.

[Host 5]

So let's go team. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Now we'll shut the border.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Now we'll. Now we have. Now we have the American people saying, okay, we saw behind the curtain. We saw the way that, that D.C. has been behaving. It's not a secret anymore. And we don't want that. We actually want to be in charge of our own destiny. And I think that Donald Trump is the. Is the. The manifestation of that kind of sentiment.

[Host 4]

Absolutely.

[Caller 1]

Mtc. Anything else to say?

[Host 1]

Well, Phil, I just want to let you know I ordered Andy Fragile. Thank you. I'm a vinyl DJ at a local bar where I live. And up Saturday for everybody. Sick, man. Awesome. I appreciate the hell out of it, man. Thank you so much.

[Caller 1]

Hey, sick. I like vinyl. If you don't follow me on X, you should. Good.

[Host 5]

He does love vinyl, folks. I guarantee it. I know.

[Caller 1]

First, anyways, I make you follow.

[Host 1]

Thanks, guys.

[Caller 1]

Cheers, man.

[Host 5]

Later, dude. Great question, by the way. Thanks for giving us a white pill to end the show.

[Host 1]

All right, so thank you guys for coming to hang out. I think that wraps it up for tonight. And we will be back.

[Caller 1]

Did I get to. Wait, Did I get to Killer donut?

[Host 5]

Did I. Yeah, yeah, that she was one or two.

[Caller 1]

Make sure I did that. Okay, cool.

[Host 1]

Okay. Yeah. So we will see you guys tomorrow.

[Host 5]

Good night.