[Timcast IRL] Portland Police PROTECT Antifa From DHS Arrest, Trump Admin Says SEND IN THE GUARD w/ Tony Ortiz

Episode Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Tony Ortiz (Current Revolt), Phil Labonte, Eliot Eliyahu
Theme: Law Enforcement Alignments, Political Factionalism, and Culture War in America

Episode Overview

This episode dives into recent viral footage showing Portland Police shielding Antifa members from arrest by federal DHS agents, intensifying debates about factionalism within US law enforcement and broader political polarization. The panel also examines Trump’s ability and potential decision to invoke the Insurrection Act, law enforcement’s politicization, and how culture war dynamics now impact everyday policing, politics, and even international trends. Throughout, the hosts veer into spirited discussions of immigration, demographic shifts (with a focus on Japan), and the shifting culture of political alignment in America.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Portland Police Protecting Antifa – Breakdown & Reactions

• [02:12] Tim Pool introduces the primary story:
  • Viral footage shows Portland police explicitly sheltering Antifa activists from DHS arrest during a protest at ICE Portland.
  • The federal agents confront local police for “aiding terrorists.”
  • Harmeet Dillon’s tweet highlights the situation as proof that Trump needs to send in the National Guard.

Quote:

• "Portland police are literally aiding a terrorist group. A DHS agent came out and confronted Portland police calling them out for allowing terrorists to hide behind them."
  – Tim Pool [09:06]

• "You have communist cops being like, 'You're free to go, Antifa woman,' and conservatives are like 'Nah, but he didn't know.' I'm like, are you kidding, bro?"
  – Tim Pool [107:35]

• [10:10] Tony Ortiz and guests note this is not an isolated phenomenon:
  • Law enforcement "leans wherever the top tells them to lean," not on any intrinsic political values.
  • Portland police’s actions are symptomatic of blue state city departments generally refusing cooperation with federal immigration enforcement.
  • Discussion of how this dynamic arose especially post-2020 (George Floyd riots, COVID lockdowns).

Quote:

• “At the end of the day, these guys have jobs. They take direction from the top, whoever the top is, whether it's a lefty or not. ...They're not going to hold honor to [any particular side].”
  – Tony Ortiz [11:48]

2. Factionalization of Law Enforcement – The Birth of “Factions”

• [11:48–19:00] Debate on law enforcement’s evolving loyalties:
  • Older “Back the Blue” ethos is criticized as naïve—police enforced lockdowns, shut down churches, sometimes sided with far-left activists.
  • The significant moment: local police actively inhibit federal agencies, which the panel sees as a new form of US factionalism.
  • Portland is described as a zone where the lines between Antifa and the police have blurred.

Quote:

• "This is how you get factions: you have the federal government and the state government, and even the local cops are saying no to the feds, as if they are a different body."
  – Tim Pool [18:04]

• “There are going to be Antifa guys who intentionally get jobs as police officers... Good cops have already quit, a long time ago.”
  – Tim Pool [108:11]

3. Authorities’ Inaction, the Insurrection Act, and Trump’s Response

• [20:00–24:00] Calls for federal intervention:
  • Panel suggests Trump should use the Insurrection Act to overcome state-level resistance, referencing historical instances (Ferguson, Louisiana Riots).
  • Trump’s base sees inaction as existential; the belief is that if he loses, “all will be in a gulag.”

Quote:

• “Trump has no choice but to absolutely crush this rogue element of the United States.”
  – Tim Pool [24:10]

• "The only way we get out of this is if Trump actually... commandeers the local government and then has new elections and cleans everything up."
  – Tim Pool [20:44]

4. The Political Role of the Left and Elite Politicians

• [29:00–33:00] Analysis of left-leaning leaders like Pritzker and Newsom:
  • Suggestion that their anti-Trump stance is more about power than conviction.
  • Speculation on what happens when “the mob” turns on elites who encouraged instability.

Quote:

• “He’s supporting them because it’s the appropriate political move to make. Newsom does not care what makes the country better. He cares what gives him power.”
  – Tim Pool [29:59]

5. White House Renovations Controversy

• [33:00–37:00]
  • Brief aside: Trump is adding a ballroom to the White House; left figures like Hillary Clinton publicly denounce it.
  • Panel ridicules the outrage, noting prior presidents have renovated.

Quote:

• “Hillary Clinton comes out and she has this stupid tweet… It’s not his house. It’s your house and he’s destroying it... Many presidents have renovated the house... It’s very appropriate.”
  – Tim Pool [34:47]

6. Canada’s Court Ruling Returning Land to Native Tribes

• [48:24–58:00]
  • Discussion of a Canadian court ruling giving land title to a First Nations tribe with no prior notice.
  • Panel jokes about the implications, weakness of Canadian resistance, and the possibility of US ‘invading’ the new native lands.

Quote:

• "This historically may be the, like, lightest warfare ever. They showed up and ran a piece of paper, it's ours. And the people there went, drat. Oh, we lose."
  – Tim Pool [52:17]

7. International Focus: Japan’s Immigration and Demographic Shifts

• [71:34–83:12]
  • Spiral into Japan’s demographic collapse, recent immigration moves, and attempts to import Indian and African workers.
  • Reflection on differences in global attitudes toward race and immigration.

Quote:

• “You go to any country, almost any country outside the US, and it’s incredibly racist.”
  – Tony Ortiz [70:23]

8. Race, Crime, and Culture War Hypocrisy

• [64:54–70:16]
  • Debate on double standards: Nick Fuentes is “persona non grata” for racial opinions, but leftist activists who support radical child policies face less outrage.
  • Panel takes the view that America is less racist than most societies.

Quote:

• “I'd prefer neither the racism nor the child sex changes. But again, one is infinitely more extreme than the other.”
  – Tim Pool [68:58]

9. American Cultural Change & Lifestyle Trends

• [76:57–86:08]
  • Discussion of dying family-friendly spaces (Pizza Hut, McDonald's PlayPlace) due to lower birth rates.
  • Observations on Japan's unique, often admired culture; the impact of overwork and immigration on Japanese society.

10. Fun & Pop Culture Detours

• [86:11–113:24]
  • Lighthearted conversations ranging from Batman movie rankings, American-Japanese pop-cultural exchange, to health fads and even microplastics.
  • “Woke” hero narratives and regression in American superhero cinema.

Quote:

• "The point of Batman was always that when he became Batman, he is peak human. ... He's not supposed to screw up and miss his grapple and then fall down."
  – Tim Pool [46:24]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The back the blue thing, it's kind of a scam because they lean whatever they want to lean and they take direction from whoever is paying their salary.”
  – Tony Ortiz [13:21]

• "Many people kept asking me years ago, how could there possibly be a civil war if there's no factions?... Factions are created."
  – Tim Pool [16:58]

• "When police departments stop working with each other for political reasons, that’s how you get factions.”
  – Phil Labonte [18:02]

• "Police and Antifa in Portland are one and the same."
  – Tim Pool [28:27]

• “America is one of the least racist societies in human history… people freak out about things that Nick Fuentes says, but if you look at the way the rest of the world behaves, things he says are not shocking.”
  – Phil Labonte [69:23]

• "I actually am somewhat of a fan of [Brian Johnson]. But he is a weirdo."
  – Tim Pool [93:36] (on health and microplastics discussion)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:12] – Tim outlines the Portland police/Antifa protection video.
• [10:43] – Panel discusses law enforcement’s partisan alignment and historic cases.
• [13:32] – Eliot Eliyahu details challenges of police coordination with DHS.
• [15:59] – Phil Labonte on what makes a “bad cop” today.
• [18:04] – Tim Pool: The rise of police/federal agency factionalism.
• [20:44] – Tim claims National Guard/Insurrection Act is only way forward.
• [24:10] – Tim on why Trump “must crush the multicultural democracy.”
• [33:59] – Phil and Tony mock the White House ballroom outrage.
• [48:24] – Canadian court gives tribal land to First Nations.
• [71:34] – Discussion turns to Japan’s birthrate and immigration.
• [86:11] – Questions about government shutdown, TSA, and what it means for average Americans.
• [107:42] – Tim criticizes conservative “back the blue” as the wrong response.
• [110:35] – Fun debate: Was Joker actually the hero of Dark Knight?

Panel Dynamic & Tone

• Language & Tone: Conversational, irreverent, sharply critical of institutional power—especially perceived leftist overreach; “uncensored” in both comedic jabs and serious accusations.
• Notable Patterns:
  • Frequent jokes with social commentary.
  • Self-aware about their own echo chamber ("We have controversial people on...").
  • Honest about their personal bias and opinions, especially about policing and political developments.

Summary Takeaway

This Timcast IRL episode uses recent events in Portland as a springboard for a broader diagnosis of America’s impending political “factionalism”—in law enforcement, culture, and even among elite politicians. The hosts drop the once-sacred 'Back the Blue' mantra, arguing that police are just as susceptible to political capture as any institution, and that only forceful federal action (i.e., Trump invoking the Insurrection Act) can reset the state's political and law enforcement order. While primarily focused on political analysis, the episode veers confidently into pop culture, immigration, and even food/cultural trends, all delivered in the show’s signature blend of cynicism, sarcasm, and dark humor.

For new listeners:
You’ll come away understanding why the right is increasingly skeptical of local law enforcement, why calls for federal “crackdowns” are rising, and how the hosts see nearly all modern controversies as symptoms of greater political and civilizational decay. Offbeat but earnest, this episode is a sweeping survey of the current culture war—punctuated by plenty of jokes about Batman and Japanese bread.