PROTESTS ERUPT After ICE KILLS Man w/ Chrissie Mayr

Summary

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Timcast IRL – “PROTESTS ERUPT After ICE KILLS Man” (July 14, 2026)

Featuring: Tim Pool, Chrissie Mayr, and Regular Timcast Panelists

Main Theme:

This episode opens with national news about protests in Maine after an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent fatally shot a man, exploring media reactions, the politicization of law enforcement, public apathy, and broader themes of trust in institutions, political performance, and social decay. Intertwined are updates on the death of Senator Lindsey Graham, Trump’s rumored announcements, Democrat party infighting, generational pessimism, and a heavy dose of social commentary.

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Episode Overview

This Timcast IRL episode addresses several breaking stories:

• ICE shooting in Maine and the tepid protest response
• The death of Senator Lindsey Graham, the FBI’s investigation of his home, and speculation regarding conspiracy theories
• Rumors surrounding Donald Trump’s impending announcements about the 2020 election and possible election suspensions
• Political polarization, especially regarding activism, media manipulation, immigration, crime, and generational malaise
• The “everything is fake” motif, with skepticism about the authenticity of media, politics, and even popular culture

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. ICE Shooting & Public Reaction

• Incident Recap: A 26-year-old man was shot and killed by an ICE agent in Maine, reportedly after attempting to flee and alleged to have used his vehicle as a weapon ([05:02], [05:22]).
• Protest Fatigue: Tim and panelists note the protests are minimal and speculate about “protest exhaustion” or the public simply not caring anymore.
  • “We got some protests in Maine, but they were like, nothing.” – Tim [06:33]
  • “It's too hot to protest. Peak protesting weather is like spring break.” – Chrissie Mayr [06:33]
• Media Critique: Debate over CNN’s labeling of the deceased as a “victim” rather than “perpetrator” and how framing influences public trust ([06:12]).
  • “This man who died is criminally responsible for his own death.” – Tim [08:38]
• Lack of Outrage: The panel argues that ICE shootings don’t generate the same outrage as police-involved Black shootings due to weaker activist infrastructure and a lack of “media-ready” narratives ([09:20]-[10:20]).
  • “To really get a riot, there has to be some aura around the shooting, some gravitas... These go out with a whimper.” – Panelist C [10:06]

2. Political Apathy & Activist Decline

• Changing Media Landscape: Tim theorizes that recent acquisitions and leadership changes in mainstream and social media (e.g., CBS, TikTok) have deprioritized left-wing activism, reducing the reach and potency of outrage cycles ([11:06]).
  • “Maybe the reason we are not seeing whackaloon lefties rioting is because... they're not being fed this hyper political stuff anymore.”
• Demographic & Advocacy Weakness: Discussion emphasizes that, unlike the Black community's established political advocates, there's no strong, organized advocacy for illegal immigrants ([12:16]).

3. Crime, Policing, and Social Order

• Consequences for Actions: The panel doubles down on the idea that using vehicles as weapons or fleeing police warrants deadly force and that society is less likely to sympathize now ([13:16]-[14:15]).
  • “You step on the throttle in front of a cop, you forfeit your life.” – Panelist C [13:42]
• General Decline: Jokes and half-serious asides about punishing the poor or “jailing the poor” ([31:52]-[32:10]) express frustration with anti-social behavior, rising petty crime, and the ways society has become “kiddie-proofed" for the lowest-functioning citizens.
  • “We used to actually have like lower tolerance for this... Jail is about incapacitation.” – C [37:38]
• Retail Security: Anecdotes about retail stores locking up items due to theft, illustrating “societal decay” ([37:16]-[54:11]).

4. Senator Lindsey Graham’s Death & Conspiracies

• Fact vs. Conspiracy: The show covers the death of Lindsey Graham, ongoing FBI investigation, and the proliferation of misinformation and wild theories (e.g., him being killed in Ukraine rather than dying of an aortic rupture) ([07:10]-[09:20], [76:05]-[80:33]).
• Institutional Distrust: Panelists stress how easy it is for rumors to flourish in an environment where the public is skeptical of official narratives.

5. Trump’s “Big Announcement” and Election Disruption Rumors

• Speculation: The crew reacts to online rumors that Trump may challenge the legitimacy of 2020/2022 Senators, declare a national emergency, or even suspend elections ([10:37], [42:14], [45:21]).
  • “I think it's super high.” – Tim, on chances elections may be suspended [45:30]
  • “Everything's getting crazy out there, boys.” – Tim [00:00]

6. Media Manipulation & “Everything is Fake”

• On Fake Content: Expansive discussion about how much of media, politics, activism, and even viral videos or reality shows are staged or scripted, with real-life anecdotes ([57:01]-[61:14], [116:30]-[119:41]).
  • “Everything’s fake. I’m not exaggerating. Everything’s fake.” – Tim [57:26]
  • “It’s always been fake. Politics is fake. Reality TV is fake.” – Tim [59:06]
  • The subject spills into man-on-the-street videos, American Idol, and roast comedy shows, all called out as largely staged for virality.

7. Generational Malaise, Nihilism & Dating

• Zoomer Nihilism: Panelists explore why Gen Z is apathetic, citing lack of economic opportunity, social media-driven expectations, and a broken dating market ([91:17], [94:11]-[97:56]).
  • “It's way deeper than that... A lot of kids are growing up in schools where no one speaks English, or there's an increase in antisocial behavior. The economy isn’t functioning properly.” – C [91:43]
• Dating Market Deterioration: Social media’s distortion of attainable mates and lifestyle leads to relationship breakdown and lower birthrates, even in places like India ([98:16]-[100:25]).
  • “It alters your expectations in life... It inflates their expectations of what they'll get out of a man.” – C [98:16]

8. Political Realignment & Democratic Party Splintering

• Leftward Drift & Fracturing: The hosts discuss fractures in the Democratic Party (moderates vs. DSA/socialists), using New York and Illinois as case studies ([24:04]-[24:51]).
• Rising DSA Influence: Concerns that the Democratic Socialists of America’s policy energy is “infecting” the broader party, with NYC as a test bed ([21:07]-[21:26]).
• Potential for New Political Parties: Rumors about Tucker Carlson launching a new party reflect breakdowns in traditional party structures ([24:04]).

9. Social Trust, Identity, and Declining Cohesion

• Racial & Ethnic Politics: The episode touches on race relations, social trust in homogeneous societies (Norway, Vermont, Japan), and the loss of “Norman Rockwell” Americana ([38:27]-[39:22]).
• Incivility & Social Media: The show critiques the role of social media in amplifying outrage for clicks and steering conversations away from real issues ([56:12]-[56:44], [88:47]-[89:41]).

10. Pop Culture & Absurdities

• Tangents: Numerous lighter moments—including riffs on Arby’s, electric cars, animal attacks, and the evolution of sexual norms in America—underscore a sense of cultural drift and absurdity ([50:23]-[55:07]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• Media Labeling:

  • “You don’t have to call him a perpetrator, but you also have to call him a victim?” – Tim [06:12]

• Protest Apathy:

  • “World Cup’s on. I don’t have time for all this.” – C [06:56]

• On the Consequences of Crime:

  • “This man who died is criminally responsible for his own death.” – Tim [08:38]
  • “You step on the throttle in front of a cop, you forfeit your life.” – C [13:42]

• Social Decline:

  • “We should say we’re the 99 in terms of the functional non-criminal element.” – Tim [31:42]

• Fake Everything:

  • “Everything’s fake. I’m not exaggerating. Everything’s fake.” – Tim [57:26]
  • “All fake. Politics is fake. Debate shows are all fake. It’s all pre-planned BS.” – Tim [61:06]
  • “It’s all scripted and fake.” – Tim [58:29]

• Zoomer Nihilism:

  • “A lot of zoomers just don't see a future in the country.” – C [91:17]
  • “Obviously, they're going to be nihilists. I think it's actually the way around. I think the reason they're wearing Crocs with the socks... there's just nothing that—why should I take myself seriously?” – C [91:43]

• Dating & Social Media’s Effects:

  • “It inflates their expectations of what they're going to get out of a [partner].” – C [98:16]

• On Generational Decline:

  • “I just think about, like, what is—I'm afraid [my kid's] gonna want to be a comedian. I'm gonna have to deal with that.” – Chrissie [95:04]

• Crime & Retail Security:

  • “Everything is locked up... five-hour energy was locked up.” – C [37:34]
  • “Jail is about incapacitation. Jail is about this person's a danger to society.” – C [38:01]

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Timestamps for Notable Segments

• 00:00 – 06:58: ICE shooting overview, protest fatigue, initial discussion
• 07:10 – 14:49: Lindsey Graham’s death, police use of force, crime responsibility
• 24:04 – 24:51: Democratic Party fracturing, moderates vs. DSA
• 31:52 – 38:38: “Jail the poor” jokes, kid-proofed society, retail crime locks
• 41:01 – 46:48: Trump announcement rumors, potential election controversy
• 56:01 – 61:14: “Everything is fake” rant, the manufacturing of virality, paid actors in media
• 91:17 – 97:56: Zoomer nihilism, declining opportunity, dating market woes
• 98:16 – 100:50: Social media’s impact on relationships and birthrates
• 108:05 – 110:00: Gimmick in retail (Moscow/Las Vegas/Chicago stores) compared
• 116:30 – 119:41: Man-on-the-street video fakery, American Idol/Voice audition process

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Tone & Dynamics

• Language: Informal, irreverent, sardonic. Transitions fluidly between serious policy critique and gallows humor.
• Style: Blunt, skeptical, and at times conspiratorial; heavy use of wit and sarcasm; clear distrust of both media and the motives of political elites.
• Panel Dynamic: Mix of expertise, lived anecdote (especially Tim’s journalism background), and sharp banter.

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Summary

This episode of Timcast IRL uses the ICE shooting in Maine as an anchor to examine the public’s exhaustion with outrage cycles, the shifting priorities and reach of activist media, and the broader collapse of trust in all major institutions: government, news, even the sincerity of cultural output. The hosts drift between gallows humor and serious concern over American decline, especially as it relates to crime, generational opportunity, and the authenticity of political and media narratives. Ultimately, the recurring motif is that cynicism and skepticism are justified responses to a world 'where everything is fake'—from retail security theater to identity politics, performance activism, and the manufactured drama of both left and right “media machines.”

For listeners interested in the interlinks between media representation, the culture wars, and real-world policy, this episode is a bracing, if sometimes bleak, group therapy session—and a reminder of Timcast’s role as an unfiltered contrarian salon in American podcasting.

Transcript

[A]

Protests are erupting in Maine after ICE agents shot and killed a guy. Now, the reporting is that allegedly this guy was trying to ram an ICE agent. So we got some photos there. Bullet holes in this windshield. The man has lost his life. And of course, the left is now protesting, saying once again that ICE agents, they've killed a guy. And this is apparently the second shooting that we've seen with ICE in the past week or so. We've got big, big news. Senator Lindsey Graham over the weekend passed away. Now, there's a lot of conspiracy theories. Some are falsely alleging that he was killed in a drone strike or a missile strike in Ukraine, but they're confusing these two different facilities. Interestingly enough, however, FBI agents are currently sweeping the home of the late senator, which is very strange. And Lindsey Graham's sister has been appointed to hold his office until the upcoming election. So, big news. Donald Trump apparently has some kind of big announcement coming up today and apparently another one on Thursday. We don't know exactly, but there are reports that Trump and Bill Pulte are about to drop some big news pertaining to the 2020 election, which. Oh, man, everybody's speculating. Everybody's speculating. People are saying Trump's gonna announce he's suspending elections or some other weird conspiracy. You know, who knows what he's gonna say? But there are. There, There. There is some reporting that is going to announce that at least two senators are illegitimate because they won through election fraud and then try to get them removed, which is just. It's getting crazy out there, boys. It's getting crazy out there. We're talking about that and a whole lot more before we do. We got a great sponsor for you guys. It is Red Life. Today, we spend nearly 90% of our lives indoors. Almost 1 billion people are deficient in vitamin D. 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Also smash that like button. Subscribe Leave us a good review if you're listening to this on podcast and don't forget to also share it. As I mentioned joining us tonight to Talk about this and everything else. We've got Chrissy Mayer.

[B]

Thanks for having me. Yay.

[A]

Who are you? What are you doing?

[B]

Who am I? I'm a comedian. I'm a podcaster. I do a show every Sunday night, Simcast, 9pm Eastern on my channel. And I do interviews on my show called Nightmare. So I'm all over the place.

[A]

Right on. We'll get the boys hanging out.

[C]

What's going on, patriots? Phil, what's going on?

[D]

Hello, everybody. My name's Phil. What's going on, Carter?

[E]

Dude, I'm just glad to be back in reasonably hot heat because it was like 112 in Vegas and reasonably hot heat, now it's only 100.

[A]

So, yeah, Vegas is unreasonably very unreasonable.

[E]

I think it was, it was very unclear.

[A]

Yeah, I got up to 112.

[C]

The way the weather treated me in Vegas, very unfair.

[E]

Yeah, I get it. At all.

[A]

Yeah, we don't like it. Here's the news from cnn. I don't know if you saw this. DHS breaks hours of silence on deadly ICE shooting in Maine saying officer was fearing for public safety. Here's an image of the vehicle. You can see the bullet holes. It looks like what, three shots?

[D]

Four, I think. I think there were two there. There's one underneath the, in the center of the line there.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Another one so and so apparently this guy died. An Immigration and Customs enforcement officer fired his weapon fearing for public safety as the 26 year old vic. What victim of Monday's fatal shooting in Maine attempted to flee the scene. Are you just cnn? You know what, man? Guys, I try so hard to be reasonable in how I report news and how we discuss these things, but how can, how can we function as a society when CNN's doing things like this? Guys, this is a off. This is an officer involved shooting with an allegation this individual was threatening the lives of the public. You don't have to call him a perpetrator, but you also have to call him a victim. You can say the individual shot by police. I'm just, okay, so there you go. So now you're going to get a bunch of lefties being like, ice just killed an innocent man.

[B]

He's a victim.

[A]

He's. Yeah, he's a victim. ICE accountability. The shooting comes just days after a federal agent fatally shot a Mexican immigrant during a traffic stop in Houston. The shootings have reignited calls for accountability among ICE agents which reached a fever pitch following the shooting deaths of Renee Good and Alex Brady. You know, guys, I Think everybody's checked out. And the reason why is that we got some protests in Maine, but they were like, nothing.

[B]

It's too hot to protest. Peak protesting. Weather is like spring and like spring break.

[A]

No, no, no, no. It's. It's summer. It is. And so when we got these riots and this and this fighting in winter, you know, I and many others who cover, who either cover or have covered riots were like, oh, man, if they're rioting in winter, summer's gonna get nuts. And summer comes along and no, nobody cares.

[C]

Yeah, the World Cup's on. I don't have time for all this.

[A]

People just kind of gave up. So I'm also sitting here being like, you know, we've got this little Lindsey Graham news because the FBI is investigating his house. And I'm just like, I honestly, I don't know what anyone really cares about any of this stuff right now.

[C]

I mean, I work in news and I saw this headline and I was like, I don't know, I just find the right. I didn't need to like, investigate.

[B]

What are they trust for?

[C]

Yeah, I trust them.

[D]

The shootings will continue as long as the driving improves. Yeah, I mean, look, if you're going to, if you're using your vehicle as a weapon, you have to expect, you know, police officers, law enforcement to defend themselves. This, this situation with, I think it was Renee Good, that was the first person this year that was, that was shot by an ICE agent, the illegal immigrant. I don't, I didn't get the guy's name that was shot, I think last week by an ICE agent. If you use your vehicle as a weapon, if you drive at a police officer, they are going to defend themselves. And if I understand correctly, this guy had a child in the car too, like a three year old or something like that. I think that that's what I read.

[A]

You guys see that story where the cop pulled over some dude and it was in New York, and then the dude tried fleeing and then the cop pursued him and the cop did a pit maneuver, causing the car to flip over. A kid got ejected and died. So they criminally charged the copy. And I'm like, the cop didn't do anything wrong. The cop was trying to stop a dangerous criminal who is recklessly driving, trying to flee a traffic stop, breaking the law. Why is the cop in trouble? Right? So in this instance, look, I'm sorry, like, I don't want anybody to die, but if you're a criminal fleeing the police, anything that happens afterwards is your criminal culpability.

[D]

Here you go.

[A]

This man who died is criminally responsible for his own death.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, and that used to be kind of like the general consensus right before the left started saying, oh, well, you know, ISIS is. Isn't legitimate, and it's not legitimate to actually have borders, and it's not legitimate to enforce the law. They're. They're actually Trump's gestapo and blah, blah, blah. It used to be generally, the American people said, well, yeah, you know, and I understand there are people that, you know, that are libertarians and people on the left that have always been kind of anti police, but generally people still look at ICE and they still look at law enforcement and they're like, yeah, we actually want police officers. You know, the, the DSA position of abolish the police, abolish ice. Like, that is not a popular position with the regular Americans.

[C]

Yeah. And they're trying to, like, spin this up because they haven't had. When's the last time they had like, a, you know, Hollywood black involved shooting? You know, it's like, on our black man get shot, that doesn't really happen.

[B]

Another George Floyd.

[C]

Yeah. So, like, because they got the body cameras and everything. And you realize these people are all crazy.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

So they still. But they were like, we still have this, like, media broadcast package that we can use. So thankfully, ICE came along and I was giving him a whole new, like, form of person getting shot and somebody's fault. But this one just doesn't have the same aura as, like, you know, the unarmed black man shootings. You'd see those. There was some drama, and the family would get up and they'd be crying. They want justice. None of them speak English. You don't know what they're talking about. You just hear the guy get shot and then you're like, all right, well, that's, that's, that's that. I guess so.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

There's no aura with.

[A]

Well, it's not just that. It's that his family's probably here illegally and they're going to hide from the media.

[C]

Yeah. So it's just like, it doesn't have the same punch. You know, it's like, really get a riot that has to have some, like, I can. I'll use the word, some aura around the shooting, some gravitas, toss some kind of some energy to it. These, like, they go out with a whimper, they drive at a cop, get shot, and then all their family goes into hiding. Who cares?

[B]

We need fake 20, Bill.

[C]

Yeah, you need something.

[D]

A speedball.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You Know, I, I honestly I, I understand the point you guys are making, but I do think that if this were to happen and have happened in February, it would have been, yeah, people in protesting in other cities. But you know guys, I think people are just checked out.

[C]

Yeah, if this happened in 2016, oh my gosh, it'd be everywhere. But now no one cares again. Everyone's like, okay, when's the France Spain game again? You know, I'm a little more interested in that. It's like people are just to your point, checked out. And I think the media overcooked the black stuff, you know, where they're like, oh these guys are all innocent. And then like time and time again they'd be like, well you like pull a knife on him or whatever. So people are just kind of primed, I think sort of stories anyway. So I think like now that they're trying these ice involved shooting stories, people are primed. Just ignore them.

[A]

I wonder if the real issue is. I'm gonna throw it out there. I mean, I wonder if the real issue is just the purchase of CBS and the appointment of Barry Weiss. What I mean by that is when you have Trump allies buying up mass media, which, I mean we're talking about Paramount, we're talking about some of the most viewed television in the country and they start removing the left ideology stuff. Not all completely. And the reports start reflecting more of a moderate worldview. It's harder to muster up revolutionary leftists. So I'm not saying all of that media is gone. Obviously CNN is still calling the man a victim and things like this. I'm just saying a percentage of WOKE media has been erased with TikTok being purchased by the Ellisons. I wonder if this plays a major role as well, as well as CBS. But TikTok I think maybe is the biggest. Cuz what I'm hearing now from people who work in the industry is that they very much deprioritized all this activism stuff. Maybe the reason we are not seeing whackaloon lefties rioting is because they go on TikTok and they're not being fed this hyper political stuff anymore.

[D]

I mean if that's case, that's a good thing for the country. Right? Like we know on a razor's edge all the time.

[C]

Well, I think, I think that's 100% true. And then also additionally, again kind of comparing, contrasting with the BLM stuff, like the black population of the United States has a very strong political lobby. Right. You had like the Congressional Black Caucus, you Had your Al Sharpton types, like, they had this entire infrastructure built out, so whenever there was an incident, they could, you know, spin everything up, and it would be this huge media cycle and you'd have congressional investigations and now sharpen to go out and do his thing with illegal immigrants. They don't really have that. They don't have a media apparatus. They don't have, like, sort of this distinct narrative. Like, black people had, like, we've always been marginalized in this country. They don't have any of that. And there's a lot of people in D.C. who again, will pay lip service, this kind of stuff, but they're not going to go to bat for illegal immigrants. I mean, Van Holland was a kind of rare exception. But generally speaking, the. They kind of want. They want the news cycle to move along here because there's not that much incentive to, like, become a warrior for the illegal immigrant shot by ice, but to be a warrior for George Floyd, that had huge. Not just social incentives, but political incentives.

[D]

I mean, Americans do think of black Americans as Americans. You know, if you've got someone that's. That's like, here illegally, Americans are going to be like, wow. You know, I mean, and I think that that's, that's, you know, rightly, they're like, look, if he wasn't here illegally and wasn't freeing from fleeing from law enforcement, he'd be alive today. And it sucks that the guy got killed. You know, I'm sorry for his family and stuff. But at the same time, it's like, bro, you, like, you know, you buy the ticket, you take the ride.

[C]

You know, step on the throttle in front of a cop, you forfeit your life. It's not that reality. Like, if you survive that, you should be thankful because the, the mechanism I'm describing here is, foot hits the accelerator, there's three cops around it, you forfeited your life. Whatever happens next, if you're alive afterwards, you should be thankful.

[B]

It's not the size of the caucus, it's the motion in the ocean.

[C]

That's a good point.

[D]

It is a good point.

[C]

A good point.

[D]

But, yeah, I mean, I think that this stuff is going to continue to kind of just be, you know, it'll be in the media for a day or two. People aren't going to be talking about this on Thursday.

[C]

Yeah, you know, it's like, I don't care. I don't know. Does anybody really even care? I mean.

[D]

Well, I mean, look, look, the DSA would love to be able to make. Make political hay out of this. But there's still a small caucus in the Democrat Party. They are probably the future. If you look at the way that the average quote unquote middle of the road Democrat is signaling, the things that they're saying, they're sympathetic to that because they know that the young people, the Democrat young people or the left up young people are far more sympathetic to that idea.

[C]

You gotta look at it from a Democrats perspective. How helpless they feel is we're literally at war with a country that was in the World cup and we could have played them. We have the Trump stoppo going around shooting illegal immigrants and the World cup still flying. Everyone's loving it. It's like that's all anyone's talking about in the press. So it's like, imagine being a Democrat where like 10 years ago you could have like really turned that it's like a big thing and put pressure on various sponsors to pull out, etc. Where instead you have 4 billion people who have their eyes on the United States right now and they're enjoying this spectacle that we're putting on. And like literally everything that the Democrats would have, typically the ammunition they would have to stir up, you know, make these wedge issues or whatever, no one really cares. And there's no, you know, there's no retribution, business as usual. And so like, you got to be really demoralized right now if you're a Democrat.

[B]

So when everybody leaves after the World cup, can we count those numbers towards deportations?

[C]

That's true, technically. Yeah. I think that's a, that's not a bad idea.

[D]

You know, I mean, look, are there

[A]

any Democrats you guys think. Think are worth voting for?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, tough question, right?

[A]

Is just.

[B]

No.

[D]

Closest thing is Fetterman, but he's not going to be a Democrat for much longer, if I understand correctly. Right. You know, but I mean, registered Republican

[C]

for a reason, I think.

[D]

Yeah. All the Democrats are signaling towards the left. They're all looking at mom, Donnie, they're all looking at the Seattle mayor and they're looking at the people that won the DSA in New York and stuff. And they're like, that's where the youth energy is. That's where the youth energy is. That's not a good thing for the country. But that doesn't bode well for your, your middle of the road Democrats that are like, oh, you know, we're, we, we still think that capitalism is good. We think that our system is good. There was a, there was an attempt by House Democrats to, to form like a, an organization or whatever, like a. And they were just like, oh, you know, we're pro capitalism, we're pro America. And there's like 13 people out of the whole House of Representatives. They got like 13 or 14 people that were like, yeah, I'm going to join this thing. It's like, look, man, Democrats generally do not like America at all. Like, like you've got the far left that want to destroy it, but then the majority of Democrats, at least in the House, they're like, yeah, you know, America's got such bad problems. Maybe it's not a bad idea if we get rid of the electoral College. They all give lip service to get, getting rid of the electoral College. They all give lip service to, you know, to adding states, to expanding the court. The more extreme you get. Then there are people that are like, well, we should abolish the Senate and you know, we, we should get rid of the President. But those are the ideas that are coming out of the Democrat party and the left.

[B]

So is mom dummy, like, is he the new AOC in terms of like,

[C]

yeah, he's immensely popular and if he were born in the United States, he would be a presidential contender. But yep. So he's like this darling and I've

[A]

just people that he's burning New York to the ground. In the worst of there are people

[D]

in the DSA that are talking about they're like, we need to get an amendment because we should run them down.

[C]

Yeah, well, yeah, I mean they're not realistic. But you know, like the, like first I want to say is to your question about like, would you root for a Democrat? As I think the main reason why a lot of well meaning truth seeking, you know, patriots wouldn't consider it anymore is because there were Democrats in the past that were quite appealing to people that were maybe more like populist minded. Like Bernie Sanders had quite, quite a wide range of support. But when what ended up happening? Well, as soon as he lost, he came out, he's like, I'm gay. So it's like now no one's really interested in voting for him anymore. Yeah. And so like most of these Democrats that in the past were like, well, you know, he's reasonable. I don't agree with him on everything, but you know, if it came down to it, I could maybe vote for him. They, if you give them a long enough time, they will just like expose themselves. The same thing happened with Ro Khanna where a lot of people were interested in him. And to the second point with Mamdani I mean the mechanism that I outlined is I'm not really that afraid of what Mamdani is going to do to New York City. I think the sort of long term effect of his mayoral reign will be more vape shops and just continue to continue to decline. He'll manage the decline a little more effectively, maybe more vape shops. Yeah, that's, that's going to be the long term deal. He's not going to like establish like a Marxist state and it's going to be just more vape shops.

[A]

I disagree. Let's pull up this story. We got this in your post. NYC housing crisis hits DEFCON 1 as rents jump to more all time highs. We also have this NYC. NYC's dramatic exodus of millionaires costing causing nearly $11 billion loss in tax revenue. So now the average rent is around, it's $5,408. I'd like to give a shout out to Kami Mandani for doing everything we all warned he was gonna do. And now, I don't know. Correct me if I heard this story. What is he, he's going after pensions. What was that about? I saw people tweeting about he's trying to sick.

[C]

He's trying to like tie up some city pensions to free up money and

[A]

he wants to pay for stuff by taking money from someone else.

[B]

Wants a 20% pay raise for himself.

[D]

What?

[B]

And yeah, he's petitioning for a toy.

[A]

No, that's it. I love Mamdani. That, that if that is, that if that is true, I got to, I got to pull that up. That is cojones to come out and be like, we need your money for stuff and we're going to drive up rents. But I deserve more. I'm like, just come out and say it, bro.

[C]

Well, and like, you know, attacking pensions is really calculated because you got to think like, okay, well what is the profile of someone in New York City that's receiving a city pension? Well, it's typically like old ethnic whites like your Italians, your Irish that worked in the fire department, worked for the garbage, etc and he's like clearly demonstrated this whole time that he like despises those people. Like he really, that those people get under his skin. Because still to this day, if you ask them from Japan or some from Sweden or someone from, you know, Brazil, what do you think of when you think about a New Yorker? They think some like fat, greasy guy with like an apron on.

[A]

Whoa, I'm walking.

[D]

So it's like always an Italian.

[C]

Everything is that, that is the brand instead of, like me, this, like, you know, wholesome Chungus Brown guy. So that, like Jungus. Yeah. So that infuriates him. And so that's why he's attacking these pensions. But I wanted to make this point too. Is the main threat of Mamdani, as I see it, again, isn't so much as he destroys New York City because New York City was heading the wrong way for since de Blasio. That being said, my main fear of Mamdani is that he normalizes DSA politics in the Democrat Party, where he has so much energy, he has so much enthusiasm, he has the activist space locked down that a lot of these blue state Democrats are going to look over at him and say, well, Mamdani is getting attacked so much by Trump, so much by conservative media that he must be doing something right. So I should emulate that. That's the same reason people emulate Trump. As they say he's getting the most fire. That must mean he's closer to the polls.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's trying to decrease payments to pension funds for city employees.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you know, the anti Italian discrimination,

[D]

the budget, budget shortfall that they're experiencing in New York City, like that's going to be made up by the state, State of New York, but New York City is where the state of New York basically gets all of their tax revenue. So what's going to end up happening is eventually the feds are going to have to bail it out. So it's going to be something that the whole country is going to have to pay for.

[C]

And I was reading to the average age of a millionaire in New York city is like early 70s, mid-70s. So I mean, most of these people are old New Yorkers or, you know, people that moved to New York City a long time ago and they just can't quite say goodbye. Well, those people are going to die soon.

[D]

They're going to die or they're going to go to Florida.

[C]

Yeah. What you're, what you're left over with

[D]

is a waiting room.

[C]

Colombian immigrants wearing puffer vests and they have highlights in their hair. Like that's your tax base.

[B]

And they're probably millionaires just simply because of their homes.

[C]

Yeah, a lot of them. It's just their. Yeah. Their holdings or they were just in the right place at the right time. Not like, not there's something very, you know, valuable about that. But like, let's be honest here. It's not like these are industrialists or anything.

[D]

No, no. And they, eventually they'll like you said, they'll either pass away or they will say, all right, I can't take it anymore, because they're going to start, you know, the taxes are just too much, and they're going to actually move to Florida.

[C]

Yeah, well, New York City felt the pinch already in the middle class. Like, the big thing I was afraid of when Mamdani was talking about these property tax increases and just trying to basically shake down and bill call the New Yorkers is everyone was like, well, it's these massive buildings in New York City. They're going to face the most, like, you know, economic strife with Mamdani's proposals. I'm like, no, the real people that are going to feel the pinch are people in the outer boroughs who own their homes. So you're talking about these older New Yorkers who bought their homes in the 80s or 90s. Again, a lot of them are white. Like, they. They're part of the ethnic white class that people associate with New York City. You know, you're talking like, you know, Bayside, Queens or Howard beach or, you know, Bensonhurst, Staten Island. By and large, those are the people that are going to feel the pinch from Donnie's proposals. I'm not saying they're good at all, obviously, but a lot of those people in New York City with massive property holdings, they're going to survive this. The people that aren't going to survive this are the people that in many ways kind of built the New York that we know today.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Trump.

[C]

Trump, for example. Trump is someone that could, in theory, survive it. But think about the Trump, you know, Fred Trump, when he was starting out, like, acquiring his properties initially, those people are gone. Those people don't exist anymore. To get into the New York real estate market, you need to already be independently wealthy.

[D]

Yeah, that's not going to happen.

[B]

Politics.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I mean, I'm not. I'm not 100% sure. You could probably get into Congress if you're not already independent, wealthy.

[C]

You'll be independently.

[D]

Well, unless you're. Well, now, Lindsey Graham, he. He just passed away, obviously, with like, he was only worth, like a million and change.

[C]

Yeah. So most of that was probably tied up in his house.

[D]

So. Yeah. So, like, there was.

[E]

He was.

[D]

He was not just in for the

[C]

love of the game.

[D]

He just wasn't following Nancy Pelosi's rules. That's, you know, he didn't have the same.

[B]

He wasn't taking the stock tips.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I guess to like, kind of put a bow on What I was saying is like, yeah, I'm not as worried about Mamdani's proposals in action. I'm worried about his proposals, his policy platform getting adopted by the National Democrat Party because again, they view him as like, he's under fire. Republicans really hate him. That's what they did at the afc.

[A]

We saw Tucker Carlson float, launching a new party. And that's in line with exactly the rumors I've been hearing. Democrats in Illinois and New York are completely bifurcated. In Illinois, the Progressives lost. In New York, the Progressives won. It looks like the Democratic Party is fracturing. And guys, sooner or later the Democratic Party ceases to exist. It's the oldest political party in the world, so it's not out of the question for the Democrats just to break.

[C]

Yeah, well, they're in a weird spot. I mean, look at San Francisco. That's considered like the hotbed of Democrat liberal activism since the 30s or 40s. And they have like an entire slate of moderate. I mean, Scott Wiener obviously is an exception.

[A]

No, they chased him out.

[C]

One of my favorite names in politics, and they chased him out. But if you look at like the mayor, Lurie and their sheriff, etc. It's all moderates. It's because it's propped up by the tech sector.

[A]

Did you see the video where they chased him out? Where it's like the person is saying, I love what you did for trans people. And then as soon as other people start screaming genocide, the person filming just gets angry too. For no reason. Because this is what, It's a cult, man.

[C]

Yeah, it's like the zombie pigment in Minecraft. If you hit one, they all like, sick on you.

[D]

Right? I mean, look at the whole, like, the whole genocide and the pretend aside in Gaza. Yeah, pretend. That's, that's Sean. Actual justice warriors line. So give him credit. But yeah, like, that whole thing has infected the far left and all the activist class in the, in the Democrat Party. And I mean, it's, it's, it's a little bit on the right as well. But even people like Nick Fuentes are kind of like, hold on a second, do we really want to align with these people? But that's going to be the litmus test. You know, it used to be Black Lives Matter and now it's going to be Gaza. But again, Black Lives Matter. Americans can get behind a war in the Middle East. The American, American people are like, don't.

[C]

Yeah, because like the right wing, you know, concern of Gaza is like, wow, they're really roughing up on them. Like, that's, you know, maybe they should chill a little bit. And the left wing version is like, we should just kill all white people.

[B]

People.

[C]

We should just do that.

[B]

I'm like, our hummus price is gonna go up if not.

[D]

Yeah, that's fair.

[A]

Hummus prices.

[D]

Yeah. There was a, there was a, a bunch of streamers were doing a thing where they were calling people. They were either halal or sabra, because sabra is made by Israel. I guess it's Israeli or something like that. They were hummus. Yeah. And if you were, if you were sabra, you were bad. But yeah, American, Americans don't care. Like, generally, like there's a, there's a, a very nar the right and a little bit wider on the left, but that are really, really impassioned about it. And you know, you'll see them on X whenever they want to complain about Trump, they'll say, oh, he's owned by Israel, or what have you. But like, for the most part, your average person that, you know, goes to work and consumes maybe two or three hours of news per week, they don't have time for that. They don't care. They're just like, look, man, there's wars all over the world. Africa's always a complete and total train wreck. There's always wars throughout Africa. There's wars in the Middle east, there's wars here. There' I don't have time or really the bandwidth. And America, like human beings really don't to really focus on this one particular war. It's just not something I'm concerned about.

[C]

I think the difference is, which is interesting, is the generational divide you're seeing, because I agree, I think the majority of Americans are like, vaguely familiar with what's going on over there, but they don't really care that much. But the default position historically was pro Israel, where now under 35, the default position is anti Israel. So even if you're apathetic, even if you really don't care that much, you're still going to tactically be like, yeah, I don't want to ally with these people. Like, that is now the default position of zoomers and younger millennials. Yeah, I mean, you're on the right,

[D]

and to be honest with you, that's fine. It's like if you, if you don't like Israel, if you got a problem with, with the US Israel relationship, totally fine. But that doesn't mean that you're going to be like, yeah, we got to support the, the, yeah, most People of Gaza, like, yeah, yeah, again, that turns into leave their war over there, worry about America, you know, and, and, you know, there's nothing wrong with saying your war is your war. Not my clown, not my circus, it's not my problem.

[C]

And when I talk to, like, average everyday people, the. The degree of the apathy on that, like, conflict is quite literally the response I hear the most is the joking. We should just bomb both of them. Yeah, that's what you hear. Like, people say that, like, all the time when I ask people. So, like, the average American just kind of wants to be done at the Middle East.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Especially zoomers and certainly millennials are just completely allergic to it. And that's why Iran war is such a crisis.

[D]

People will talk about. They'll bring up the foreign aid for Israel. And it's like, look, man, if you're actually concerned about the deficit and the debt, you're actually concerned with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Yeah, that's what our. That's the most money we spend every year. The amount of money that we spend in foreign aid doesn't even. Like, if we ended all foreign aid, we would still be bankrupt. Like, we could end all foreign. We could end all foreign aid and all the countries that we gave foreign aid to in the past decade could give it all back and we'd still be bankrupt. Like, we're 39 or $40 trillion in debt. Like, if we got all the money back from all the countries we give them money to, we would still not be able to do anything about the debt because of this. Because of Social Security, Medicare.

[A]

Yeah. The economy is bad right now because all those USAID dollars were fraudulently propping up various NGOs that were spending money on things.

[C]

Sure, yeah, could be.

[A]

Well, social media viewership and everything was just fake.

[C]

Unironically. The NGOs are going to get an influx as we reach the mortality cliff with boomers, because there's this thing, I don't know, you see headlines every once in. I think Sting was the latest one I saw where they're like, I'm not going to give my kids a dollar. They got to earn it. You know, I don't want them to have a silver spoon in their mouth.

[D]

Scum.

[C]

And it's like, very scummy. Yes. But also, what's going to happen?

[A]

What is not giving your kids money?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What ends up like, millionaire? Like, oh, I'm not going to leave money to my kids. I want them to earn it.

[C]

And what ends up happening?

[A]

I Agree with that?

[C]

No, because what ends up happening is their entire estate goes to charities and NGOs, so.

[A]

I didn't say that was going to happen either.

[C]

Well, I mean, the money's got.

[A]

I was going to give everything to you, Tate.

[C]

I'd be okay with that.

[A]

Are you still mad about that?

[C]

No, I think that's great. I think it's great. But to your point, the NGOs are going to get bailed out because, like, boomers and they start dying because it's, like, in vogue right now to, like, hate your kids. They're just going to be like, your kids. Yeah, that's, like, in vogue. That's, like, the trend from, like, all parents, by the way.

[A]

Millennials, dude. I knew a bunch of rich kids when I was younger, and they were. They were. Something was wrong with them. Like, because their parents had. Had always solved their problems for them, they did not understand how to function on their own.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's different. Like, taking care of them while they're alive is different from making sure that you don't leave anything to them when you die. Right? Like, I. I'm totally fine with being like, I ain't giving you anything. Like, I had, like, my parents didn't give me anything. I had to buy my own first car. I had to do all that stuff. I never got, like, I never got handouts from my parents or anything like that. But, like, when you pass away, giving your money and. Or your assets to other people that aren't your family. No, I think you should leave it to your. Leave it to your kids. But you don't have to. You don't have to spoil your kids. You don't have to buy them anything. But.

[C]

And also, the reason why the deodorant is locked up at Walgreens is not because of, like, snobby rich kids. Like, when I think about who is, like, affecting my life negatively on a daily basis and not thinking about, like, a douchey kid who got some money from his dad, like, that is just a minor annoyance. And you're like, wow, that guy's a douche. I want to hang out with them. When I'm talking about the people that, like, actively make my life worse on a daily basis, it's like, poor, dumb

[D]

people as, like, every day. Asmongold made this. Made this point, he was like, look, your life is far more negatively affected by the bottom 2% of society than by the top 2% of society.

[C]

Kid proofed our entire society for these people. Yeah. When I was a kid, there's paper towels in the bathroom, and now it's like a. Like a jet dryer on the wall.

[A]

Instead of saying we are the 99% to mean we are the bottom in terms of wealth against the rich, we should say we're the 99 in terms of the functional non criminal element.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

So instead of saying tax the rich, we should say jail the poor.

[D]

Yes, yes, absolutely.

[A]

Jail the poor.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

That was the poor process.

[C]

Because that was a classic. That was a very classic Lindemann tweet where he tweeted, everyone can hate the rich, but you have the courage to hate the poor.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

That's the red pill.

[B]

It sounds like something Tim Dillon was

[C]

say, it's a red pill.

[D]

Look, and it's not. And obviously we're making a joke about it and stuff.

[A]

Some rich people that I despise, and there are some poor people that I despise. Like, I'm. I'm tired of pretending like poor people are just innocent victims. Some are. And I don't blame the majority of working class people who are having struggles, but there are some poor people who are on drugs, who beat their wives, lock them up.

[C]

Yeah. There's a guy like, smearing poop all over the train. I'm like, dude, I can't.

[A]

I hate rich people. People. Why are the rich making this happen?

[D]

People that are crazy chronically broke, it is their own fault. If you're, if you're chronically broke, it is because of decisions that you're making. Or.

[A]

I don't. I don't agree with that.

[D]

You don't think so?

[A]

Well, no, there's somebody. Yeah, but. But there's somebody. Somebody. Somebody's mom gets sick and so they keep having. They're getting in debt and they're using credit cards. Take like, you know, some people who are chronically broke, it's their. It's their own good.

[C]

No, a lot of them aren't because they're stupid. Like, if you watch Caleb Hammer show and he's sitting down with these people, I'm like, it doesn't matter how many financial courses you put these people through, they're so. That they'll never understand.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, look, there are people that fall in hard times. There are definitely people that have to take care of family members and stuff. And that's. But I think that, that, that's actually the exception to the rule. Because again, when I talk about chronically broke, I don't mean someone that, that goes through a decade of hard times. Because they had a family member fall ill. I'm talking about someone that was broke when they were 20, and they're 55, and they're still broke with nothing.

[C]

I think a lot of those people. I mean, now the economy is hard, but there's a lot of people that cause a lot of problems. And it's like the argument liberals use where they're like, we need more like, people. Prison. You know, reform and prison re. Education. I'm like, no, these people are, like, predisposed to commit crimes. There's, like, there's also a segment of the population that the economy, the modern economy is just too difficult for them to comprehend. There's no doubt about that. That's why you have, like, Somalis coming here. Do they have a. You know, are they predisposed to scamming, or is it more likely they just not. They don't have the cognitive iq. Participate if you. Market economy.

[D]

If you have the. If you. If you're smart enough to scam, you probably could seek gainful employment. But I think that when it comes to, like, Somalis or. Or different cultures, I think that the culture that the United States has is really, like, because of the high trust society type stuff. It doesn't matter if you're an unintelligent Japanese person, which I'm sure there are. Like, they're not gonna be.

[A]

No.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

I disagree. I don't know if there's any stupid Japanese people. It must all be smart.

[D]

All of them.

[C]

I think that's broadly true.

[D]

Let's say that we're. We're grading on a sliding scale or. Or, you know, you know, context.

[A]

Our.

[D]

Our.

[A]

Our image of Japan is that it's all clean and perfect, but it's pretty gross, to be honest.

[D]

Depends on where.

[A]

I know there's a lot of beautiful places in Japan, don't get me wrong. But there's a lot of really creepy, weird stuff they have.

[B]

Yeah, the underpants, vending machines.

[A]

Worse than that. Worse than that. Trust me.

[C]

And I want to hit on that.

[A]

They have masturbatoriums.

[C]

They do?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like your room.

[D]

They look at sex stores.

[C]

Oh, well, here they call them breastfeeding pods.

[B]

I've got into those. Those are really helpful.

[C]

I had a buddy that worked at jfk, and he's like, look like an Elmer's glue factory.

[B]

I use those all the time, and all of them were really clean. So I've had good experiences. The handles were a little sticky.

[D]

You got to go in there with a black light to See what's actually going on.

[A]

I got to give a shot of the Capital One lounge because they have like a parenting room or nursing and changing babies and everything. And it's like, it's amazing. It's got, it's carpeted, it's got a chair, it's got like, it's got extra diapers on, you know?

[B]

That's great.

[A]

Got everything you would need.

[C]

You guys didn't let us know. The ladies. I remember when I worked as a janitor for a few months and like when I was like in college and a lot of the women's bathroom have

[B]

like a couch in there sometimes. Yeah. Because we need couches as we go in as a group and we have to sit and talk to each other.

[C]

Well, that'd be awesome.

[B]

Watch.

[C]

We could just sit around and like chop it up in the bathroom for a little bit. That'd be awesome. I'm jealous. When I found that out, I was like, enraged. Women, we live in a matriarchy, clearly.

[B]

Because you want a couch, we get

[C]

stuck with the urinals. Like a half toilet.

[B]

Like, I want a couch but with like a hole in the bottom so I can just pee while I'm sitting.

[C]

Now we're talking.

[D]

There you go.

[C]

Yeah, that's exactly what's ahead on this point. One more time to keep dunking on poor people because I don't get the chance to do this very often. Is the per. Like the whole personal responsibility thing. That is true for a lot of people. Like, I'm not rich, so like, that applies to me.

[D]

But a lot of people also like 10 years old.

[C]

Yeah. But a lot of people.

[B]

I don't know you have a watch.

[C]

A lot of people are incapable. It was a gift for tax purposes. I just found it. A lot of people are just unable to practice personal responsibility. Yeah, some people are legitimately just fried in the lock em up. And I'm like, it's unfair because we used to as a society understand that we shouldn't coddle these people and we should just make their lives. They should be away from us. These people will just ruin everything. And these are poor everyone across the board or just stupid people, etc, but now like, we have to kiddie proof everything for like the lowest common denominator, the bottom 2%, as Trump pointed out correctly. And so like, everything just sucks now because like Chipotle. I remember Chipotle used to be able to do a mobile order and then go pick it up off a shelf. Now the shelf is behind the counter, so I gotta wait for someone flag him down. It's just like the little stuff like that. It's not because of the rest. It's not because of us.

[A]

When we were in Vegas, there's a CBS that's. It's like, it's not downtown. It's like really close to the strip. Everything is locked up.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So if it's not behind a wall, man, it's, it's, it's. When it's on the rack, there's a lock on the racks. Like, you know those little bars and you like slide it off. You can't because it's locked. And you got to press a button to call for help.

[C]

You know what you do, you know,

[E]

to stop this five hour energy that was locked up.

[A]

I know the poor.

[C]

No, seriously, it's like what we used to do in this country is we used to actually have like lower tolerance for this kind of stuff. Is like if you're stealing toothpaste and that's an indication that you probably have some antisocial behaviors and you should get to go to jail. Because jail is not about rehabilitation. Hail's not about punishment. Jail is about incapacitation. Jail is about this person's a dangerous society. Get them away from society. That's the function. So conservatives.

[A]

Hold on. If that's the case, then we can save a lot of money. If someone's caught stealing, we just hog tie them and leave.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, they can figure it out. They'll get out eventually. But if we can hog tie somebody that I think that's actually a fair Australia was for.

[C]

Yeah, that's what. And also. Oh, and when I make.

[B]

Are you saying the island ship all our black people to Australia?

[D]

There's plenty of people that are students. It doesn't matter. You know, it's not about.

[B]

Not all.

[A]

That's the funny thing about. The funny thing about Maine. Some of them, like, they're not riding up there, but it's like, what is Maine? Like 92% white?

[D]

Something like that. Yeah.

[A]

Don't get me wrong though. It's always, it's always like the antifa is always white people.

[C]

Well, because these Norman, you know, liberals make this point is like a dunk attempt. Or they'll like show the Norman Walkwell Rockwell. Rockwell painting. And conservatives will be like, oh, I love this sort of, you know, this romanticized view of America.

[B]

And they go drinking soda.

[C]

Yeah. And they'll go, well, that's a 95% Democrat town in Vermont. I'm like, grok, can you pull up the demographics of this town and it's like 99% white. And I'm like, you're making my point for me.

[D]

I saw that exact same, like, sentiment, and someone was from Norway and they were like, oh, you know, blah, blah, blah. It's like, bro, Norway is like, it's the same family.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, the whole, like, everybody there is related. So it's like, you're not going to get, you know, the. The same kind of social disharmony that you get in, like, a country like the United States, which has a bunch of different kinds of people with a bunch of different backgrounds and stuff, you

[C]

know, and when I make this point about how prison is not for justice or for. Or for punishment or whatever, but it's for incapacitation, a lot of conservatives get really upset with me about this point. But they will praise Bukele. And I'm like, what do you think Bukele is doing? Kayle cares about settling scores. No, he just wants to make his country safer. So if you disagree with me there, go delete all your tweets about Bukele and condemn him because he's got it all wrong.

[D]

Everybody that's, you know, that's a drain on society. Put him in jail. If you're. If, like, if you're out there committing crimes, like the, the whole, like, broken windows policing, that actually does work, you know, and that's.

[A]

I don't think it's broken window windows policing in a sense. Like, I half agree. It's. We will arrest you for the smallest of reasons.

[C]

Well, that's.

[D]

Yeah, that's the point of it. Right.

[A]

The general idea was like, if you are. If you go petty crimes, no one will commit larger crimes. But it's like if you're saying you're just going to arrest people when they commit crimes, then crime will be. Will go away.

[C]

Yeah, well, and also, we understand this with certain functions. For example, the DMV understands this very well because you get one trap, you know, you speed once. It's like, okay, well, don't do it again. And then you typically learn like, okay, well, I need to probably slow it down. But if you get five speeding tickets, you get points on your license, and in most states, you'll get your license suspended. So the DMV correctly understands that if you keep repeating behaviors, it's likely that you're going to continue repeating these behaviors. So we need to take your license away. But for some reason, that correct model of society is, like, limited to the Department of Motor Vehicles. When you get five misdemeanors that's probably. If you've stolen toothpaste five times, that's probably an indication to go to jail for a while. You need to get your driver's license.

[B]

Really bad teeth or you're British.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

The Island.

[D]

If you have really bad teeth, you're not brushing them and. No, Tim's right. Send him to the Island.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

You know, the, the, the whole, you know, we have to give people a lot of chances and, oh, they didn't hurt. I mean, you listen to the people that were making arguments as to why Carmela Anthony shouldn't go to jail and they're like, oh, but it was his first offense, brother. His first offense was murder.

[B]

Like, what are you talking about, murder?

[D]

I mean.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I remember listening to like I was on the View or something. They were trying to say, well, it was just like one stab.

[D]

Like, what?

[A]

How do you hold murder?

[D]

You can't minimize. But people will still have this, this idea that people should be treated with kid gloves and it's not good for society at all.

[C]

Imagine if you were going to CVS with your friends and then you watched one of them like steal toothpaste. You'd be like, this is not a trustworthy person. But like, when it's someone you don't know, all of a sudden it's tolerable.

[A]

No, could you imagine that you have a friend and you're like, you're hanging out CVS and he walks out and shows you the toothpaste he stole. Are you gonna invite him into your basement where you store all your toothpaste?

[B]

No.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

I got tons of boxes down there. You ain't going anywhere near my toothpaste storage room.

[C]

Yeah, literally. And it's like, it's one thing if you're like 16, but it's like 40 year olds doing this all the time. And yeah, Australia worked because it was like still Anglos, but like with. Nevermind. I'll stop the point there.

[A]

Let's, let's jump to the story. We got this from Eric Daugherty. The fake news is panicking after reports claim President Trump enacting dni. Bill Pulte are preparing a bombshell on documents related to 2020 election irregularities. We're also getting reports that Trump is going to claim. We've got this right here. Trump is planning to announce that Georgia's two senators, John Ossoff and Raphael Warnock, are illegitimate because of fraud. A well placed source in Georgia tells us announcement could come as soon as tonight. What do you Think he's gonna announce.

[C]

I susp. I suspect that it might be something Iran related because we've been seeing the buzz all day is that Congress is now informed that he intends to restart the war. We've resumed bombings and it looks like things are scaling up. We've established a toll on the street of Hormuz.

[A]

Quick question for everybody listening. Did any of you short oil or buy oil after the last time the war was ending? Because I've been. I'm not telling anybody. They should. I'm just saying that we talked about in the show how Trump keeps yo yoing back and forth and there are probably people that are once. Once Trump is like, the war is over, oil, like comes down, then they buy a bunch of it up. Then Trump goes, the war is back on, it skyrockets. And then once it oils back up, they're putting shorts on it. And then Trump comes out, we've done it, the war's over and it keeps going back and forth. Bro, you're probably a billionaire if you've been buying and shorting back and forth.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because it's so predictable. So predictable. And then at this point, if you've done it every time, even if you're wrong on which time, the last one, last time is you still profit enough to not have to worry about it.

[C]

Well, this is a weird one because this is the first man of the first instance, depending on who you ask. But this instance, it was the IRGC that kicked this back off because they started to start. They decided to start bombing tankers for a variety of reasons. I think the primary reason was they had Khomeini's funeral and they're all fired up and they wanted some scalps. And so they said, well, we should be sovereign over the strait, so we're going to start bombing all these tankers. And I think what's become increasingly clear with this conflict, etcetera, as time carries on is the civilian government in Tehran does not have the IRGC under control at all. The irgc, I'm not saying they're rogue, but they're clearly making decisions without any oversight from the Iranian government.

[A]

So they do have an update. Trump is going to. We heard the announcement that Trump would be giving a speech on Thursday. Apparently the speech on Thursday will be. Well, they're saying Trump's people will not focus on the elections. The Georgia Republican source adds that they were notified of a speech upcoming on Thursday. So this doesn't really clarify exactly what Trump is supposed to announce, but we are hearing that even MSNBC is freaking out saying Trump's about to launch some election task force. They're freaking out about this. Trump officials sought ways to sidestep election agency. So something's coming and built. Pulte is not just sitting by doing nothing. This guy's been like, he's been busy.

[C]

I know I was, I was pretty critical of him early on because of the 50 year mortgage thing.

[A]

And yeah, that was crazy.

[C]

And I think, you know, I still have some criticisms on the housing front, but as far as like, okay, let's actually go and win this thing. Like, he is a dog. Like, you got, you got, you want that guy on your team. Like, he just like, doesn't care. He's just like, look, Trump, what do you want me to do? Yes, sir, I'm on it. And then just goes and like brings 10 scalps to him. Yeah, like a hound dog.

[D]

What do you think the chances of like a national emergency in say, October are in suspending elections?

[A]

I think it's super high.

[D]

Super high.

[C]

I mean, I don't know.

[D]

What do you think? What do you think?

[C]

That's unlikely, but I do think that you're going to see a ramping up of investigations.

[D]

So then, so what happens if, I mean, if they go ahead and actually, if they produce evidence and say, okay, look, these guys were actually fraudulently elected, we have to make sure that our elections are sound and Democrats are doing everything they can to prevent that. Using the, the, the laws passed in California as examples.

[C]

I mean, well, Georgia's George, the reason Georgia is coming into focus here is because their state House and Senate are amenable to Republican causes. So they're thinking that again, if they can like prove a smoking gun, you drag a bunch of people through Senate, you know, all these committee hearing, house committee hearings, etc. The agencies do their thing. But then you should in theory have the, the state House and Senate in Georgia go to bat for you as well. If it comes down to crunch time, like there's a reason they're not. They could do this in California. Why aren't they, why are they doing it in Georgia out of all states?

[D]

It's like, well, maybe because they haven't actually found the evidence they need in, in California yet.

[C]

It could be, but also the California state and House would never let that happen. The Senate and House there. They would. I think, as far as I understand, ultimately it'd be up to them to start ejecting people. I mean, the agencies go and arrest people. But will they do that? I don't know, I think it's more likely to just get this done fairly

[B]

clean ultimately with, like, the, the paper ballots. Like, was that voted down? Like, are they still trying to.

[D]

In California?

[B]

Well, just everywhere.

[D]

Yeah. We. We there. There's the. Right now the states have the authority to decide how they do their elections. I do think the. That Congress should pass some kind of legislation that says, look, you can run your own elections, but these are the, the parameters by which you have to do the election. But I, you know, Congress isn't going to do anything.

[C]

Yeah. Would have solved a lot of those.

[D]

Yeah. You can't even get the SAVE act passed. Although, you know, I mean, look, if, if Lindsey Graham's out And, well, Mitch McConnell actually sent a message out. I. Allegedly, he's alive.

[C]

He said, yeah, well, Lindsey Graham, to be fair to him, was whipping votes for this Avax.

[E]

It was.

[C]

Mitch McConnell's been holding it up.

[A]

He sent a message. But did he actually, like, make a video of himself being like, hi, I'm here.

[C]

Did you see in the picture? Oh, my God. It's like, beyond parody. And the picture, he just casually. Is newspaper right there.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I was like, is this, like, a mob proof of life?

[D]

It was definitely a proof of life.

[C]

Get over here. I got today's newspaper. Let's take a picture.

[D]

She's not even in China now.

[A]

Yeah. How many fingers did he have?

[D]

I didn't, I didn't look that closely.

[A]

I mean, here's the crazy thing about today's day and age. You could take that photo and add a finger and then publish it and say, hey, wait a minute, he's got an extra finger. And then no one, no one will believe the true story, because even though yours is fake, they'll believe you because they want to.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, I mean, that's. That's one of the things that I've been talking about on. On X a lot lately is how absolutely broken people's brains are by. Largely by Covid. Right. But it was the. The seeds were planted, you know.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

That's why Candace is smart. Her attitude is like, extract as much as you can from the people who, who crave it.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, people don't want the truth.

[A]

They. They want. They want the excitement, they want the adventure.

[D]

They want their narrative.

[C]

We're getting close to the point where if there's not a video that, like, corroborates the photo, that Getty Images is gonna be the only reliable source for, like, photos.

[A]

People are gonna upload AI photos to Getty, and you're not gonna know if

[D]

it's for your Getty watermark on saying,

[C]

insofar as, like, one institution that can sort of verify photos, you know, authenticity, it's probably gonna be Getty. And so if it doesn't come from a video, Right. If you don't have a video corroborating, okay, it's a screenshot from a Trump speech or something, then, yeah, you're gonna turn to, we're not there yet. Like, I think people, for the most part, can still tell us something's AI, but who knows? If things do get better and better,

[B]

you can get information from photos like. Like, where it was taken.

[C]

There's metadata. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

But I mean, that. That's probably one, like, clever coder away or one clever code away from being able to fake the metadata as well.

[C]

Because right now, if you. If you prompted chat GPT and then you save the image and upload it to Twitter, Twitter scans the metadata and says, made with AI. If you just go and screenshot the photo you just made, it removes the metadata, and then you can just upload it. It doesn't remove the metadata, but it skips through the filter that says.

[D]

I. I imagine that it's. It wouldn't be difficult for an AI to fake metadata. They could probably. You could probably just be like, all right, do this. You know, and. And yeah, if you can. If you can convince an AI to actually hack into the Mexican government's. Whatever their. Their. I think there was their Social Security, whatever their version of Social Security is, and steal a bunch of information, you could probably convince an AI to, you know, create metadata.

[A]

What was that?

[E]

That was Claude.

[D]

Was that. I think it was Claude. Yeah.

[C]

And I like how we, like, don't care about data leaks anymore. Like, AT&T. Like, it seems like every six months was, like, by the way, like, 500 million people's Social Security numbers are out there now. And you're like, okay, I have AT&T, but I just don't care anymore. But like, 20 years ago, be like, a crisis, and now it's like, yeah, Arby's just leaked your blood type. And it's like, is what it is.

[B]

All right, well, it's all in the cloud.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think the funnier part of that joke is someone eating at Arby's.

[C]

True. I love Arby's.

[A]

When was the last time you ate at Arby's?

[C]

Probably, like, a few months ago. It's more of a spring.

[B]

My husband's eating it right now at the hotel.

[C]

Yeah, it's a spring thing for me. Yeah, more of a spring Arby's.

[D]

Arby's tends to be in, I mean, truck stops.

[C]

Arby's just tends to be, like, rock bottom. Like, you're in the drive.

[E]

They've recently had, like, a really good, whether intended or not, like, PR campaign. Like the Arby's boys on Instagram. Like, brother.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Oh, really?

[C]

Well, I remember they released a Euro and then I had the RB0. My, like, legs went numb. Yeah. It was crazy.

[A]

Why do you ever have Blaze Pizza?

[B]

Yes. It's.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Make your own. Yeah.

[A]

It's like Chipotle by pizza.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And you can be like, just make it crazy. I put, like, strawberries on it and they'll be like, yeah.

[C]

And then you got these, like, real outside the box thinkers that are like, you know, it's not authentic, right? Like, Taco Bell's not authentic. What do you mean?

[D]

Taco Bell's too isn't so good.

[C]

It's too.

[A]

When we were in.

[D]

When we went to Vegas at what, Del Taco.

[A]

They had Del Taco. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And all these people beat me up. And then I go in there, it's all Mexican people. It's like, they like it. I trust them. Like Panda Express. You see Chinese people in there all the time.

[D]

Panda Express is great.

[C]

Pan Express is awesome. Also started by Chinese Americans, so they're not idiots.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

All right.

[C]

Yeah. They'd like. They know. They know what they're doing. They're priming this for the American market. America is a filter that turns not good, authentic food into really nice food that you can get out of a window. It's fantastic stuff.

[D]

It is good.

[C]

Anyway, Bill Pulte is a dog.

[D]

He's a fighter, you know.

[A]

Yeah. But he's, he's, he's. It's funny because of all the people that Trump's brought on, he's the one who's like, I'll get the job done. You know what I mean?

[D]

I mean, I think that that alone is. Is valuable because he, Trump has had so much. Has had so much going against him when it comes to a lot of the policies that he's, you know, he's talked about or he's trying to implement. And look, there's a lot of people that are very critical of Donald Trump because of the fact that he's not able to get things done. Not that he. He hasn't been trying or what have you, but there's a lot of resistance to a lot of things that he Wants. So if Pulte can actually help him kind of, you know, get the ball across the, across the finish line or whatever you want to call it, you know that, that's, that's, that's what's actually necessary because there's a lot of policies that Trump has been proposing that I'm extremely in favor.

[C]

You like low key. You kind of want a guy that's like independently wealthy like him, who's getting. Because like, if the Democrats get in and they come after him, you can just skip the country. You kind of, you kind of want a guy that's like a bit insulated from everything. Yeah. So it's like, you know what? We'll throw. If you can get. Look, if you can pull this off, I'll do a 60 year mortgage.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Sign me up.

[D]

Get rid of the 14th Amendment.

[A]

99 year lease, no more mortgages.

[C]

Yeah, but that Hong Kong style.

[A]

That's right.

[D]

There you go.

[C]

It's beautiful.

[A]

You'll never own land again. But, but they will arrest everybody. How does that sound?

[D]

Yeah, you know, that's fine.

[A]

It actually be funny if he came out and he was like, I will arrest all of the Democrats right now, but you're going to get 60 year mortgages. People like, deal, deal.

[C]

Yeah, I'll live in a favor and

[B]

we could jail for.

[D]

Yeah, you'll only be in a favela for a little while. Society would, would rock it forward.

[C]

Once I start being able to get my own deodorant, I know we're heading the right direction.

[D]

We were in Vegas. I had to get someone to help me to get a Red Bull.

[C]

Oh, you gotta like beg like a dog too. It's like the most, like, humiliating thing ever. You're like pressing the button and the guy comes, please, please.

[A]

Feel like the worst. The worst was when the lady came. I pressed the button.

[E]

Whoa.

[A]

I was getting a toothbrush. Like literally just a toothbrush. And it was locked. And I pressed the button. And she comes over like, what do you want? And I was like, a toothbrush. Can I just like, tell me which one you want. I'm like, that orange one right there. And then she grabs it and I'm like, I need toothpaste. And she goes, which one do you want? I'm like, the, the, the. That one down there, I guess. And she's like, okay. I'm like, this is Chris. And then she hands it to me and walks away. Yeah, like, what was the point of that?

[C]

We're really close.

[A]

There was, there was a dude in body Armor with a gun at the door.

[B]

Yeah. So you wouldn't steal that toothpaste.

[C]

Loss prevention.

[A]

Imagine it's gonna shoot you.

[B]

Imagine redoing that scene from Home alone where Kevin McAllister is just trying to, like, buy a toothbrush, but it's like 20, 26, and he's kind of like that. That would actually never happen. They would never let the kid, like.

[D]

No, no. They did. Arrest the people on the plane. Turn the plane back around.

[A]

When I went to California the last time I went to cvs, and I was like, I'll get some coffee and cream and stuff for breakfast. And I was like, oh, you know what? I think I'll get some ice cream. And I walked over. I actually filmed this, and the ice cream was locked. If you wanted ice cream, you needed to go up, tell somebody. They'd walk over and unlock the ice cream.

[B]

Was it Haagen Dazs? Cause I would understand.

[A]

Was all ice cream possible?

[C]

A lot of the ice cream I've noticed recently because I've gotten kind of an ice cream phase of my life right now. And I've noticed since my last ice cream phase is not all, but a lot of the tubs have, like, a plastic film now that you have to revel back. And it's because of that one girl who made Licking It. And now all these ice cream companies have to pay an extra 2 cents to get.

[A]

You know what's really crazy is that that viral video where she opened it, it was like. It was the girl did it first, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

She opened it, licked it, and put it back. And then tons of people started doing it. But here's the thing. One guy grabbed one, bought it, walked over to the shelf, pretended like he was grabbing a new one, licked it, put it back, and walked away. Stopped, walked over, grabbed his ice cream again, and it was a stunt. Still got criminally charged because they are. They said, the people who are watching this video do not know that it was a stunt. And so now the store has to legally throw all of it away.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I'd never seen anyone get more angry in my life than Matt Walsh when that video came out. She needs to go like this.

[D]

The island.

[C]

The stuff he wanted done to her was like, I've never even could hear conceive of such.

[B]

Now we know how much he likes ice cream.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, patriot, go offline.

[A]

I was like, well, then there was a bunch of other videos where people were cracking open drinks and spitting in them and putting them back and stuff. Like that.

[D]

God, I. I can't even. We are subjugated by the bottom 2%.

[C]

If it were a sexual kink, you'd be like, you know, they. But it's like, it's not. These people are doing it just because

[A]

they hate it's bro Tik tok brain is. I. I'm assuming it's on purpose because long form is dead. Shows like this are dying out. And what Gen Z political activists are doing now is just trying to clip farm because they know you're going to get 20 million views on the TikTok video and you're going to get 100,000 on the long form video. So all you have to do is just clip farm. So sit there, let them say whatever they want, and then randomly just start going and then stop and go, I'm done.

[B]

Should we all do that so that the show gets more.

[A]

Well, you know, Tate, you with your hair.

[E]

Thank you so much for pulling the mic away when you did that.

[D]

Smart.

[C]

That'll be a good clip. I'll see that on my reels later.

[B]

You want to.

[A]

Yeah. Well, it's like that one time. What did I say? Trump called me and it went viral. Oh, yeah. I was. I was literally explaining clipping, and I was like, I could say something like, you know, Donald Trump called me before he criticized Marjorie Taylor Green. He said, tim, you're great.

[E]

You're.

[A]

You're. You're a good fan and I appreciate. And then people wrote articles saying, Trump calls Tim Pool. And I'm like.

[B]

Because they believe it. They think it's.

[A]

Everything's fake. Guys, I just got to tell you, everything's fake. Everything's fake. I'm not exaggerating. Everything's fake. I saw that. I saw that. Was it the ovon Tucker Carlson and a handful of other people in Vegas. Like, it's all fake. They're all friends. They're pretending. And I'm not joking when I say they're all pretending. It's all fake. Trump calls Tucker on the phone. They hang out together. It's fake. All fake. I had a guy come up to me and he asked me if the beef. Because it was back in December when I called Candace Owens a naughty word if it was real. And I was like, yes. And he was like, really? And I was like, yes. I'm like, screw her. And there's like, oh, okay. And it's funny because I think we might be the only real show in existence. I'm not even kidding.

[C]

It's all real. It's all real.

[B]

Yeah. You see comments like, oh, is this all coordinated?

[C]

Really, Tim, it's, it's Benjamin.

[A]

Oh, he's calling.

[C]

It's for you. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, it's for me. Tate's my handler.

[C]

Benjamin. No. Yeah, nothing's going on.

[A]

Hey, ask him for my $7,000.

[C]

Oh, yeah, Tim's wondering about the shock. The dollars.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Check your Venmo. You should be good.

[A]

Check my Venmo.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I'll talk to you later. Yep. All right.

[A]

Everything's, Everything's. Everything's scripted and fake.

[C]

Rude.

[D]

I, I, I don't know how actually, like, fake people, like, the, the Israel haters are.

[A]

It's all fake.

[D]

I think they believe it.

[A]

It's all fake. You don't? I. I'm telling you guys, 100%. Everything's fake. Like the meetings that I've had recently. Yo, I'm not even kidding. We're talking to, like, agencies and, like, and, like, network stuff. All fake. 100 fake, bro. These people who hate Israel and do these shows are repped by the biggest talent agencies in the world that are run by deep, like, uni party shills. They know exactly what's being said. They're being told to say these things.

[C]

It's all fake because, yeah, like, 10 years ago, I mean, like, D platform, etc, was so big where now, Candace, you'll get, like, a Pepsi ad before. And you're.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, the, the whole Candace stuff, it's like, she's like, oh, you know, it was Israel that killed Charlie, and we were just trying to find the truth, blah, blah, blah. If, if that were actually the case that Israel killed Charlie, why are they letting her, you know, continue to say this, you know, over and over and over, Just days and days and days and months.

[A]

Here's, here's, here's the truth. Here's the truth. If you call out all of the big media stuff as, like, scripted and fake, then you're gonna get blacklisted. They're gonna, they're gonna say, don't work with him because you're, you're, you're, you're breaking the grift. You know what I mean? Like, do you really think. You see these videos where the guy. Have you guys seen the videos where the dude walks up to a woman and he's like, will you buy me a water? I'm so thirsty. And she goes, no, get your own water. And then the person behind her, they'll be like, will you buy me water? And she'll go, yeah, I'll get you water. And they go, congratulations, you just won $10,000. Then the first lady gets all mad. It's all fake. That's all fake. It's always been fake. It'll always be fake. Reality TV is fake. Politics is fake. Look at.

[B]

Remember.

[A]

Remember when Tucker Carlson was talking about election and dominion stuff, but then we found out that behind the scenes, he was saying other. He was saying, like the opposite, saying, this is ridiculous. Trump's bad.

[C]

Oh, that was weird.

[B]

Comedy roasts to, like, everything is scripted, even what seems improvised, and they're all friends behind the scenes, like, there's no beef.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I was, I was.

[A]

Nobody wants unpredictable. Nobody wants you to come to a roast and say something shocking and offensive.

[C]

Yeah. I won't say which comic it was, but a guy, like, did a whole video breaking down about how his crowd works all fake, and he's just, like, planting people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why? Look at this. You get. You get a good crowd work video, you're gonna get millions of views, Right?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So why sit there crossing your fingers, hoping you can be witty when you can literally hire an actor, write the joke out and. And then be witty? And I'm like, whoa, he got him. No one is doing that for real. Like, 80% of it is fake. It's all fake. Politics is fake. Debate shows are all fake. It's all pre planned bs.

[C]

Yeah. The debate shows are the.

[B]

I'm not even a real redhead.

[A]

Wow, that proves it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Neither is Tate.

[C]

Shots all. It's all smoke and mirrors.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Tate's real name is actually date.

[C]

It's true.

[D]

He's not even here. He's not even in the room with us.

[C]

It's true.

[D]

This is all via satellite, right? Like back in the day.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Tate's actually in Jamaica.

[C]

It's true.

[D]

I wish.

[A]

We have identical studios built around the world. No one's actually in the same. Actually, we're all in different rooms.

[C]

Yeah. It's like, why are they cutting? No one's in the same shot.

[E]

You don't see a watch all of

[B]

us to take off our fake faces.

[A]

All right, remember when that guy had a fake face on? What was it? Fox News? And then they were like, no, it's a light. No, it's not. His face was fake.

[C]

That one is. So you guys know me by now. You know, I'm like, I'm always pretty skeptical of conspiracies and whatnot. That one I'm still don't have a good explanation for. I'm like, that's really weird. Like, lights on kind of shadow coming

[B]

your neck like that.

[A]

Yeah. Straight line. And they're like, oh, it's because his shirt.

[C]

Well, the weirdest.

[A]

No, his. It would make a straight line.

[C]

And he's not even like someone that. If you were trying to do, like, a captivating deep fake to fool the world, like, no one even noticed until, like, two days after. And they got this. Like, it was not like a. There wasn't like, an obvious reason to think that.

[A]

But have you seen that one guy that always appears on Fox News wearing masks and he's like, antifa. Or a border guard or a mobster, and it's clearly the same guy every time.

[C]

Maybe he is just having these radical political. Political shifts, and they're like, I'll bring him back on. He's a libertarian now.

[A]

Everything's fake, man. You know, like, when it. When it comes to talking to these, like, networks and agencies and all that stuff, they're sitting there being like, why would you spend money trying to make something interesting happen instead of just hiring the person to do it? Like, why would you gamble with having your show be interesting? Just do it. Like, we may be one of the only shows that doesn't allow people to pay to come on or charge people or pay people. Almost every other podcaster, it's all paid. It's all fake. Like, without calling anybody out, big, big political hosts, especially in this space, they will call somebody up and say, I'll pay you to come on. And then the person comes on and says what they're supposed to say. Or you can take a look at, like, some of these younger Gen Z guys who do politics. They're on the phone. They do call in shows where they're debating a MAGA guy, but it's like, not. It's obviously just some extra who's pretending to be MAGA so they can make him sound stupid and get a clip.

[D]

Tim, are you throwing shade at Brad Shapiro?

[A]

Oh, is Brian doing that?

[D]

I don't know. I'm just kidding.

[A]

No, I'm talking. I said young.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I didn't say aging.

[D]

Brian is aging.

[C]

You would still hear him doing the rotary on the. Let's call some people.

[D]

The plugs. Having to call the operator to actually connect.

[A]

You see the viral video where the guy couldn't figure out how a rotary phone worked.

[D]

Oh, God.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It was like a Gen Z guy. And he's like, what is this? And he's, like, pushing the. The. The.

[B]

The whole number.

[A]

Yeah. And like, nothing happens. And he's, like, fidgeting with the, the rotary. It's like going back and forth. He's like, I don't understand.

[B]

My grandma had one.

[A]

Yeah, I had one of my house one.

[C]

I mean, no, I never, like, used one, but I've seen them.

[A]

You know how to use it.

[C]

But it's like, why is it. Why is it like a dunk to be like, oh, wow, this kid that was born 20 years after this obsolete, doesn't know how to use it because you're dumb.

[B]

It's not. It's like not knowing how to open a book. It's like.

[C]

It's like taking someone that's like 70 and be like, what do you mean? You can't ride a horse, can you?

[D]

Can you What? Drive stick. Can you drive stick?

[C]

Yeah, I drive a stick.

[D]

Okay. Oh, okay. There you go.

[C]

But. But again, it's like it's obsolete technology. You know, for the most part, people prefer automatic.

[B]

Like, stick is not obsolete. It's like an art form.

[A]

Yeah, but like, no, stick shift is better for a lot of reasons. It's just not as convenient.

[C]

Well, but like, with new models, they. Only 1% of new models are manuals now.

[A]

Well, get an electric car. You don't got to worry about it. Just there's no gears at all.

[B]

They should make more just to weed out women drivers.

[D]

Electric cars.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

Now, that won't weed out women drivers. It'll just. Cause it'll just hire. Get you a lot more mechanics to fix transmissions.

[B]

Oh, true.

[A]

Clutches will get replaced every other day. You know what I mean?

[D]

Burn it out. To your point about electric cars. Electric cars are absolutely awesome. And not that. Not saying that they're. They're not. Not saying that gasoline engines don't have their place because I think that that as of right now, you shouldn't own just an electric car. But man, no, they're cool.

[C]

But like, I also think like the fold phones are cool, but.

[D]

No. No, it's. No, it's not.

[B]

Electric cars are good.

[D]

I love my Tesla like you.

[A]

Yeah, they're fantastic.

[B]

Spend 30 minutes charging it.

[D]

No, very.

[C]

I'll meet up you guys later.

[D]

I gotta charge my car, to be honest with you. Most of the time, like, I charge it at home.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And when I charge, if I charge it up, I can go all the way to DC and back. Plenty of charge. I can go to dc, come.

[A]

And even if you do need to charge, it's 15 minutes.

[C]

I just don't like that. I just don't like that it could break and I would be helpless.

[E]

Helpless.

[D]

Oh, you mean like a woman? Like a regular car?

[C]

Like an electric car. Something breaks.

[D]

It's like. Actually, to be honest with you, most, most people, if their car breaks, they're kind of helpless nowadays. People under like 50.

[C]

But I like when something breaks in my car. It's like, sweet. I have plans for the weekend now. No, it's exciting.

[D]

You can, That's.

[C]

I had a German car for the longest. It was awesome. It was every weekend. I had a project.

[D]

But you just don't like people.

[B]

I think you're like, oh, it could.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know. It could be. Yeah. I don't know. I, I, I, I will acknowledge that the electric cars are likely the future. I just like the. You put juice in it and it goes.

[D]

I mean, what do you think electricity

[B]

is gas at all that goes into a Tesla?

[D]

No, no. I just plug it in and when

[E]

I get home, like a reserve tank, just in case. No, no.

[D]

And a Tesla. No, there's that. That would be a hybrid.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

It'd be a hybrid that has an engine and a.

[C]

The bisexuals of vehicles.

[D]

It's, it's the best, it's the best car I've ever owned. It's, it's awesome. I love it.

[B]

You own like one of those ugly cyber trucks.

[D]

No, no, I got a Tesla Model S. All right.

[C]

I mean, who would own a cyber truck?

[A]

Seriously? I have a cyber shirt.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

It's like a luxury, luxury vehicle. I don't think I'd ever use it for, like, hauling anything, but I may, I would have, but it's like, super comfy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, it drives itself.

[E]

So.

[C]

But I, I, you know, I would have been like, I would have been big on the horses. And I'm like, these Model Ts, they're not going anywhere. A piece of junk, some metal, and replace a horse. A good old fashioned horse.

[D]

Already a boomer. And you're like 17, 200 horsemen.

[A]

You know what's really funny is, have you guys ever seen Ghost in the Shell?

[D]

I saw the, the movie you're talking about. Yeah.

[A]

Well, so it takes place in the year 2030, and people have cyberized brains. So they, like, have nanobots injected into their, into their brains. And I just was watching the anime standalone complex the other day, and it's like, Tokyo 2030. And I'm like, no. Like, we're four years away and we're still just driving cars like, nobody's flying.

[C]

And then even more hilarious because Tokyo got to the 1990s and they just stopped. They're like, this is perfect. Like, I went to Japan. They're using fax machines everywhere in 1996, and they're like, all right, let's freeze it here.

[A]

Well, they got to 96, said, no more children, and it froze.

[C]

They just froze everything. They're like, we're just gonna do this.

[A]

It turns out all technology was based on just making your life easier because it takes so much time to take care of kids. You're like, I don't have enough time in the day. I'm working so, so hard for so long for my kids. And it's like, well, what if we could shave off 20 minutes with this technology? You're like, oh, thank God now there's no kids. They're like, I think I'll go to the mass potorium.

[C]

Well, they were. I mean, there was a study that was talking about how alcoholism among women, or, like, the average amount of alcohol women drank went down after the invention of the dishwasher because there was, like, less misery now. So we didn't drink as much to cope.

[D]

You'd think it'd go up because they don't have the dishes to do. They put them in there, and they could have a, you know, have a drink or two.

[C]

Yeah, well, I think a lot of it was just, like, where people weren't drinking. Recreat.

[A]

So wait, wait, hold on. Are you suggesting that feminism only came about because we invented dishwashers?

[C]

Women, a lot of spare time.

[A]

Exactly. All of a sudden, they're sitting around, well, I got to do something.

[C]

I got time to vote. Now it's like, rate the dishwashers.

[A]

I can't go vote. I have to do the dishes.

[B]

There'd be no septum rings if we didn't invent the dishwasher.

[D]

Labor saving devices were a mistake.

[A]

It's true. We should make dishwashers illegal, and that would solve all the problems, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Feminism has gone overnight.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, we should do, though, actually, I think the cure for feminism is just to release wolves into every major city. Then women will hide, you know, and then men will be like, I just got to fight wolves on the way to work. It's fine if I'm going out a

[C]

couple of bears in Washington, D.C. i think the wolves are still less of a concern.

[A]

No, no, no, no. Hold on. If we released, like, 50, 000 wolves into every major city, it, like, most guys would be like, this is the greatest thing ever. And they would get their shield and their sword, like, I'm going to work and put their Helmet on. And then weak guys would hide and women would hide. Yeah.

[C]

But you would get to the scene, and there'd be a Haitian already digging in. Oh, this is great. How did they do this?

[D]

Look, look, man, if there were 50,000. If there were 50,000 wolves, I wouldn't be getting a shield and a sword. I would be.

[C]

I'm.

[D]

I'd get the rifle and the nods out.

[C]

I'm going on. I'm betting on Port au Prince to clutch up.

[B]

We have bears in our yard.

[C]

By the time. If they release 50,000 wolves in Springfield, Ohio, by the time you get there to neutralize the situation, they'll have recipes. They'll, like, know what to do. They have it locked down. They're like, we.

[A]

We got, like, cultivated wolf.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they'll have that dialed in.

[A]

Just release a bunch of bears. Buffalo. Like that video everyone's talking about. Why was it. Why were they messing around with a buffalo anyway? I thought, was it a buffalo or bison?

[C]

You see him after, he was, like, smiling.

[B]

A buffalo and a bison, I think.

[D]

I don't know, but he. I. It looked to me like they were. Like they actually were keeping their distance. It's not like some of the other videos where people go up and they, like, pat him on the back.

[A]

Why did he simply not grab the horns and snap its neck? You know, like. Like in the movies.

[C]

He was a patriot, too. They, like, asked him after. He was like, oh, it's, like, fun. Yeah, look him up.

[B]

He, like, cartwheeled through that.

[C]

Yeah, they, like. They asked him after. He's like, yeah, I was like. He was, like, smiling. Like, he thought it was awesome.

[B]

I'm alive. I feel alive again.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I wish my wife would do that.

[A]

Well, he landed on his side, so he's probably just bruised. He probably had any serious injuries.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I'd be telling if that happened to me. I mean, I'd be telling everyone, see,

[D]

that's me right there in the air.

[A]

That's me in the air.

[B]

That's a little girl, too, there. Like, what happened to her?

[D]

I mean, look, like I said, they were not, like, messing with it. You see a lot of videos where people are like, oh, there was a. There was a famous picture of a Japanese woman taking a picture with herself and a. There's, like, some kind of big cat. It was, like, right up behind her, and she's like. And then. Then you show up. The next thing is a slide of a video of, like, people dragging her away because the cat maulder, you know,

[B]

and that Was like, delete that photo.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Linked. I look fat.

[D]

Well, no, like that. That kind of stuff happened.

[A]

Did you see the video of the chick? I think it was in, like, China or something. There was a snow leopard or something.

[D]

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Snow leopard's like.

[A]

She's like, in the south. He just mauls her, like, rips her face off.

[B]

It couldn't have been a snow leopard. They, like never attack humans.

[A]

Well, she walked up to it and she was like, trying to get a selfie and it was going like, wow.

[B]

And she's like.

[A]

And then it whacks her face and, like, rips her face off.

[B]

She's asking for it.

[D]

Smoke.

[B]

And you see.

[D]

You see stuff where people go. And they, like, mess. They try to, you know, feed bears and the bear grabs the person's hand and throws him around and stuff. The dude that was. That got, you know, flung up in the air by the buffalo. He wasn't doing anything. They were just walking by.

[B]

Buffalo had cocaine.

[D]

Cocaine. Buffalo.

[B]

Buffalo. I see a se.

[D]

It's a very energetic buffalo. But yeah, it's. It's not something.

[B]

He had bears in our yard. And turns out, like we had like bird feeders out and like sew it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And turns out that's basically bear bait because it's all like animal fat. They can smell like miles away.

[D]

I've lived at my house in New Hampshire for 13 years. And just this pat, not just this past fall was the first time that I saw bears. And there was a big mama and two very large cubs in my front yard. And I was like, oh. And I tried to get my phone, but because they're like, they are super

[B]

skittish, I couldn't get my phone either. I'm like, just come back one more time so I can get a video. And then please don't come back again.

[D]

I was in my house and I was in my room like, like, probably 40 yards away. And I went to grab my phone and by the time I got back, they'd heard me rummaging around or whatever and they were gone. But 13 years I've lived there. I've lived in New Hampshire for 15 years. I have. That's the only time I've ever seen a bear in the wild.

[B]

Must be active bear time.

[D]

Well, I mean, I saw like a six foot tall.

[A]

It was a black bear out here. Yeah, it was like. It was like a mile, maybe not even a mile outside of Charlestown, running towards the city. And I was like, do I call the police? And I looked it up and said, no. And the police were closed anyway. And so I just told people, and they were like, you saw a bear? And I was like, yeah, it's a big dude. He's probably, like, 6, 7ft tall. If he was standing up, running straight towards the city. And they're like, huh?

[B]

Oh, yeah. We called our town to report our bears.

[E]

They didn't.

[B]

They didn't care at all. I was like, all right.

[D]

I. I didn't call anyone. I live in the woods. They'd have been like, yeah. And literally across state from. Across the street from a state park that had been like. Like, get. Shut up. Stop calling. What are you doing? Yeah, so there's. There's no calling and reporting bears, or. I mean, there's. There's rumors of mountain wine having been around the area and stuff, because that, like, mountain lions, like, actually have, like, all of North America as their range. They don't, like, stop. They just go everywhere. So basically anywhere in North America, if it's, you know, in the. Kind of in the woods or whatever, you could see one. And, you know, if. If you catch a picture of it, it goes to. To the Facebook group. People are like, yo, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, yeah, did you hear about that

[E]

girl that got her arms ripped off by an alligator?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, what?

[D]

Because.

[A]

Spun around or whatever.

[E]

I don't really know what happened, but she was camping or something with her boyfriend, another friend. Just. Yeah. Bad time.

[B]

Both arms?

[E]

I think so.

[A]

Well, what they do is they. They spin around on the ground.

[E]

Death roll.

[A]

And it twists your arm off. So that's like a video where a dude gets bit and starts rolling with it to stop it from ripping his arm off.

[C]

Yeah, smart.

[A]

My.

[C]

I'll do that if I ever get.

[D]

Gators are dinosaurs, man. You're doomed. We were. When we were in. When we were in Florida, like, we. I. I was driving from Fort Lauderdale over to. To Sarasota and, like, along Alligator Alley. You just see them, like, they've got fences, so that way they don't actually come onto the road.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Well, I. I did, like, everywhere. I did, like, the Everglade Swamp boat or whatever, and I see an alligator, and I'm, like, petrified. And then the guy's like, that's my next wallet. I'm like, these people are just insane. These Floridians. They got to be dying all the time.

[B]

Bite, alligator. I'll just think. I don't know what happened happened. I'm stumped.

[D]

Oh, God, no, She's. She's not. She's. And she's. She passed away.

[C]

There was that one movie with the. The surfer girl, and she got an arm hacked off by a shark and worked out well for her. She got.

[D]

I think it's probably better to get attacked by a shark than by an alligator, because a shark has very sharp teeth, and they don't do the whole death roll thing.

[E]

They'll.

[A]

They'll bite you and then leave the split.

[D]

So even if they get your arm off, like. Like, they'll be like, oh, you're not food. Whereas gators are, like, your food. Gators will eat you.

[C]

And there's some, like. There's some, like, I don't know, some sort of resonance with getting attacked by a shark. Like, you get it. You're like, whoa, wow. This guy's going to the beach a lot. Something right with us. Like, you get attacked by a gator, it's like, wow, what were you doing?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

What a good swimmer you are. You're like, I swam all the way back to shore. Bleeding.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

It's something to be proud of, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I made the trip back to shore. I should. I should. I should be able to survive, you know?

[C]

Yeah. I think it's amazing. Bill Pulte is a dog, though.

[B]

The bison video.

[D]

Play the bison video. Do you have it?

[A]

No. I mean, hasn't everybody seen it?

[B]

Probably, yeah.

[A]

I mean, there's a bunch of other news. We got this one. Let's jump to this one. We got this from WSA9, FBI investigating at home of deceased Senator Lindsey Graham. What do you guys think? You think he was assassinated? People think Russia killed him.

[D]

I mean, the preliminary findings were that basically, like, his aorta exploded, so.

[A]

Exploded?

[D]

Well, like, it was the type of. It was a rupture, and it popped and stuff. Yeah. When I say exploded, I don't mean like, you know, Russia shoved a small explosive into his. Into his heart. I mean, that, you know, it ruptured. Look, I had a friend that had the same kind of heart attack, and he. He survived, but only because he literally lived, like, 10 minutes from the. From the emergency room. And so they, you know, he was in surgery for hours and hours and hours. That kind of heart attack, where it ruptures, you're doomed. So I don't know that. I don't know that that I'm buying the. The Russia kill them yet. But, I mean, look, if the FBI is there, if there's anything to be found, hopefully they would divulge it.

[B]

They're looking for gay stuff. And I'd just be like, you know, get it out of here.

[D]

Yeah, they're trying to cover his good name. They're like boxes and boxes of die.

[B]

Get rid of my gay stuff, you know?

[C]

Yeah, I'd second that. Yeah. I don't know. Every time you hear like theories regarding one of these things, I think the imperative question you always have to ask is how many people have to stay quiet to pull this off? Yeah, well, they already had the chief examiner who by the way would have incentive to say this is a cover up because he's been. Muriel Bowser appointed him, he's cleared at his office, said, yeah, he'd have a heart attack. And the Metropolitan Police Department did the same thing. All the people that wrenched on him at the hospital, the EMS workers that picked him up and put him in the ambulance, like at that point you're talking hundreds, if not thousands of people. You got to keep quiet.

[D]

That to your point, that's one of the reasons why a lot of the, the popular,

[A]

you know, gotta keep any quiet. If he was assassinated in his home, like if it was foul play. Yeah, but all of these people are gonna be like his aorta was detected.

[B]

Did.

[C]

But the examiner and, and the police department said no, he died of a heart attack, he got shot. I mean, they would have said something.

[E]

Right, right.

[C]

But be like the Trump administration trying to cover this up.

[A]

Yeah, but that if he died in Ukraine, all these people are covering it up. But if someone did something to kill him and make it look like it was an aortic dissection or whatever, they would all just think it was. Why is the FBI investigating?

[C]

Well, I mean, I think they kind of have to because the senator is dead and his home. So I mean they're always going to have to investigate it. But insofar as like if there was any sense of, of foul play, the police department and the chief examiner would be someone in their office come out and say something.

[A]

I think it's simple. Sometimes 71 year olds die, but aortic dissection is, is not common.

[C]

Yeah, it's uncommon. It must be noted his father died at 69 of a heart attack. I don't know if it was. I don't know. But yeah, it was a heart attack.

[A]

And aortic dissection is very, very different. So aortic dissection is actually rare, but isn't kind of a crazy thing to die of.

[C]

It's still like cardiac. I mean, obviously.

[A]

No, it's the, it's it's the artery and you, the largest artery in your body ruptures. It's not a heart attack.

[C]

But isn't cosmic a lot pushing up there and blowing it up?

[A]

It is the. Your aorta ruptures.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So I mean maybe sometimes clot related, but it's basically you have a giant vein and like going through your chest and it rips open.

[C]

Yeah, I just, I can't imagine like if I, you know, most 71 year olds I know if they're jetting back and forth to Europe and whatnot, they would probably die.

[B]

Candace Owens knows it says it.

[C]

Yeah, we gotta ask. We'll wait for Candace, I'm sure.

[D]

Yeah. The Mayo, the Mayo Clinic says aortic dissection isn't very common. It usually happens to men in their 60s and 70s. Symptoms may. Symptoms of aortic dissection may seem like those of other health condition. This often leads to delays in diagnosis, early diagnosis and fast treatment of aortic section greatly improve the chances of survival. But yeah, I mean it's like the big aorta rips and bulges out and internal bleeding and at that age, I

[C]

mean, I think Cernovich was talking about it how when on daylight savings time, when they move an hour forward to lose an hour, that's when you lose an hour of sleep. There's a 25% increase in cardiac deaths the following day because like little stuff like that when you're really old will throw your entire body out of whack. So think about a transatlantic flight. He did a turn burn. So he was only there for like a day or two and then immediately came back. He might have there for a few days, but regardless it's, you know, tight. A lot of travel in a very short amount of time for a 71 year old who now, you know, God rest his soul, but like clearly wasn't taking great care of himself.

[D]

Allegedly he drank a lot.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Turnburn sounds like an std. He picked it up in the Ukraine.

[D]

Yeah, I mean I, I don't have any, any like any love for the, the, the conspiracy theories surrounding this. I mean, seven years old, drinks a lot. Yeah, you know, it happens.

[C]

Genetic. Clearly there's a connection.

[A]

There's no way to blame Israel. I mean.

[C]

Well, look, let's brainstorm a little bit.

[B]

Let's find a way.

[C]

Yeah, let's brainstorm a little bit.

[D]

You know, he. Did he just, you know, miss a vote that was going to help Israel or something like that?

[A]

Save act.

[D]

That wouldn't help Israel, would it?

[A]

No, no, I'm just saying if Lindsey

[C]

Graham wasn't sufficiently pro Israel, then we're all covered. It's over for us.

[A]

People are actually claiming, I'm not getting an X. That that Lindsey Graham was changing his views on Israel. That's not even a joke. Not even a joke. I'm not saying I've seen anybody say Israel did it, but I saw a post where they were like, Lindsey Graham was siding with Trump when Trump was going after Netanyahu's views were changing. Like, that's not true. No, no. Trump was listening. Lindsey Graham.

[D]

Yeah, there's. There are very few people in the United States government that's more pro. Were more pro Israel and Lindsey Graham and the idea of Lindsey Graham changing at the ripe old age of 71, for what reason? What would be the catalyst?

[C]

Yeah. And even if he was like softening, I mean, I still think if you're Israel and you're looking at biggest culprits for the softening of support for Israel United States, I think Lindsey Graham, even if he flipped, it would still be very far down your list.

[D]

We wish that you were pro Israel still. But you know, you've done so much in the past because to your point,

[C]

it's like the imperative question is, well, why are all the super base people always calling out Israel, not like, like having any harm done to them. Like, why are your Candace is walking free? Why are your Thomas Massey's walking. Like nothing's gonna. I mean, look, it's like these are the people that are supposedly the brave truth tellers telling everything, exposing their secrets. Would you want to shut them up?

[D]

This isn't, this isn't like a personal attack. But if Ian Carroll were somehow no longer speaking about Israel, like most people wouldn't notice. Right? Like he made his. He made his name kind of being like a conspiracy guy. Like, it's not like he has like connections in the government or, or whatever. It's like if he just was like disappeared.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know that.

[C]

Well, that Lucas Gage guy tapped.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He's like, he's like, they're all the Zionist guys, like dragging him through the ringer now and it's gonna go on the Jeremy Boring show and be like, actually, you know, I learned a lot about.

[D]

Oh, did he? He's no longer anti Israel.

[C]

No, he's pro Israel now. Yeah, he took the buyout. He's like, I'm done. This is not fun.

[D]

Well, I mean, but now he's got

[C]

to do the media tour where now he has to be the guy that I know anti Semites think so I'm going to be the one that, like, de. Radicalizes them. And it's like, what do you miss? One rent payment and all of a sudden.

[D]

Yeah, he's like, $7,000 actually sounds really good now.

[C]

Well, yeah, it's just like the guys tap out, but to your point, you didn't even notice. Like, that's what I'm making is like, he tapped out. He stopped doing the. The brave truth teller routine and no one noticed. And, like, no one cares. Like, most of these guys, like, we think they're a big deal because we're on Twitter and we see the average American, though any of these people are, well, the only.

[D]

I mean, can people think.

[C]

A lot of people. People think Tucker's still on Fox.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Not even joking.

[C]

It's serious.

[A]

It's pretty wild how many people I bumped into that are like, oh, he's on Fox.

[D]

Yeah, don't pay attention again. Those people are the people that are, you know, make up the most, the majority of America. And they're paying attention to about two to four hours of news per week. Right. Like half an hour while they're trying to feed their kid, get their kids ready for school, come home. Maybe they catch a little bit while they're making dinner or.

[B]

Who's clavicular anyway? Back to dinner.

[D]

He's.

[A]

Wasn't. Isn't he working with Netanyahu now?

[D]

Yeah, he's going to Russia.

[A]

No, no, I'm not. I'm not joking.

[C]

He has, like, a rabbi now. Are you serious?

[A]

Yeah, no, there was a post about how he's.

[D]

I tell you what, in five years, it's no longer going to be cool to be anti Israel. And like, I know that that's kind of where it's going right now. Maybe 10 years, they're going to be like, we don't really care about Israel, but we're not so anti.

[A]

Just think, like, it's going to. It's going to turn around so much that people in Congress might start waving

[C]

Israeli flags, get bad. They might start wearing uniforms.

[D]

There's a lot of. There's a people that.

[A]

We might actually integrate our military soon.

[D]

To your point, though, like, there's a lot of people, like, I didn't know about that Lucas Gage guy, but there's a lot of people that were either agnostic or. Or Israel critical that are like, man, the. The Juiceburgs have made it to the point where I'm actually pro Israel now. I hate them so Much. Oh, dude, you know, there's a lot of people.

[C]

What happened with the skaters? And everyone started wearing vans and everything. And you're like, oh, now it's not even. You know, that's our thing.

[A]

Mom started wearing vans. All of a sudden you're taking them off stuff.

[C]

Yeah, the same thing happened. Like, all the og, like, anti Semite guys that, like, were, like, super clued in, and now they're like, oh, Spencer's

[D]

not particularly hanging out anywhere either. Right?

[A]

Just hang out with, like, Scott Horton and Dave Smith. And we were like, no, no, we hear what you're saying about Israel. Like, that's really cool. And now with, like, Candace and, like,

[D]

Ian Carol, we're like, oh, yeah, seriously,

[A]

I love Israel now.

[D]

Like, I. I like Scott. We had Scott Horton on, like, four times that I. Since I've been here, right? And like, every time, there's a ton of stuff that he talks about, and I'm like, yeah, okay, that makes sense. Or this or whatever. And, like, it never made me think, oh, I hate Israel. But I was like, no, okay, I get what you're saying. I understand why you're.

[A]

But maybe that's the op.

[D]

Now I'm just like, shut up, shut up, shut up.

[A]

That's. That's what you do.

[D]

Maybe it is.

[A]

That's. That's the false. The social media false flag.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Israel's like, we need to get a bunch of retards to come out and scream at the top of their lungs to annoy everybody so they stop paying attention.

[D]

Candace, Israeli agent confirmed she's actually getting paid.

[A]

Have you seen. You see Ben Shapiro's video on this?

[D]

No, look, look, I'm not.

[A]

Ben was joking when he was like, you know, he. He jokingly accuses Candace of killing Charlie. I'm not joking when I say it is very strange that she. Did you hear the story about how she married her husband after 17 days and no romance? He calls her on the phone and says, let's get married. Says, yes. So she marries into the British House of Lords, and her. Her lawyers work in a. In a building with federal agents.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And it's just like, none of these people follow her question, any of that.

[D]

What, Him?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, you know, it's a good cover story, right?

[B]

You.

[D]

You'd think if he was actually gay, be like, candace, shut the hell up. I'm trying to. Well, maybe it draws attention away. You know, if she's in the limelight, he's just like, I can go and date guys on the side maybe, but Yeah, I, I do think that there's going to be, there's no, there's going to be fatigue about anti Israel sentiment. Even, even Nick Fuentes is a little bit like, all right. He said, look, I'm. These spurgs, you know, I'm tired of it when, when you're losing. Nick Fuentes, right? Like, he's still like, you know, Israel is, Israel's a problem and you know, Jewish power is a problem. He still kind of got those opinions, but for the most part he's like, I can't even deal with these spurgs. And it's, it's constant, like all the time. People are just constantly. My feed is like, and I'm not the guy that's like waving Israeli flags. I've never said anything where I'm like, no, the US has got to support Israel. Never said anything like that. It's like, like, well, you know, they're another country. I'm not particularly pro Israel, but like, constant. My, my feed is constantly full of people that have, you know, pictures of me with the Israeli flag behind me or whatever. I, I think it doesn't, like reality doesn't matter.

[A]

But also take a look at, you know, Tick Tock and Paramount, Paramount's merger, you know, the battle of Warner Brothers. I, I think it may be that Tucker Candace are Pied Pipering the stupid people out into the, into the ghettos of politics and there's no, there's no reality in which the powers that be are really anti Israel. I don't buy it for a second.

[B]

Yeah, then like, why does it get so much traction? I guess because it gets a lot of clicks.

[A]

Does it really, does it really get attention when. So I've talked about like brain rotting people. It's real simple. You go on Fiverr and you hire some Indian dudes to. If somebody makes, if somebody makes 10 videos and one of them is about, you know, nine of them are about like, like cooking recipes and one is about Israel. You tell them, I want 10,000 views and 10,000 likes and 10,000 comments on the Israel video. Then they go, oh, I'm getting all these clicks and views. So they go in that direction and you erase them from the political conversation. These, like the jutard people, they, they are not having an effect in the normal world. Like, this is not something that people follow every day because they're like, my gas prices are too high. And then someone goes, the Jews. And they're like, what are we talking about?

[B]

Yeah, in a bubble.

[D]

Yeah, but it's just exhausting and like

[A]

I said, and not to mention how much you want to bet it's all, like, Pakistani viewers.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

That's another thing is, like, the Internet has opened up the whole world to, you know, whatever you're talking about. And internationally, there's a lot more people that are critical of Israel than the U.S. so people like, you know, Ian Carol and Candace Owens and what have you, they get a lot of interval. International viewers.

[A]

Well, that was a criticism that. So Ian Carroll posted a screenshot of his views versus Ben Shapiro's views, and he's getting, like. He's got one with half a million, a couple with like 100 something thousand. And he says to Ben, you know, keep working at. You'll get your views up. And then Ben was like, it's exactly my point. That's what these people care about. If it's gonna get him clicks, they're gonna go after it. But my argument is regular people don't care. When you go and talk to them, what do they care about? They're gonna say, like, the economy's bad. School work. They're not going to say the Jews. It's just not going to happen.

[C]

Yeah, well.

[A]

Yeah. What views are you getting and what's the point of getting them?

[C]

Yeah, it doesn't translate to, like, any viable political, like, maneuvering. I mean, like, Dan Bilzerians ratioing everyone on Twitter. He's getting, like, 5% in that primary. Like, this kind of stuff doesn't.

[A]

It's just I. I had a dealer.

[C]

You don't care.

[A]

So Dan played the World Series. He busted out on day one, I guess, and I want to make sure everyone understands that doesn't mean he played good or bad. A lot of pros busted out on day one. I made at the end of day two. It doesn't mean I played good or bad. It means I played very conservatively. And then I got busted out on a. It was probably a bad call, but one of my dealers was like, I was dealing to Dan and he was asking everybody at the table about all of this stuff.

[D]

God.

[A]

And I was like, oh, yeah? And he's like, yeah. Like, apparently people are kind of like, whatever.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Yeah, no one really, like, in the real, like, world. Not that there's such a thing as, like, a normie oracle anymore, because, like, everyone is touched by the Internet to some degree now. But insofar as, like, political, like, online politics, it rarely, like, translates. I mean, I can't tell me the countless amount of, like, political parties or committees or whatever that I've seen created over the years that spawned out of a Twitter group chat or something that just, like, literally didn't go anywhere. Even Trump. I mean, it is true that I think it is fair to say the online right did play a large part and sort of his rise in 2016, he still tapped into something that was real and it was just unaddressed, which was, yeah, frustration over immigration and, And. And foreign wars and stuff.

[A]

Like, right now, the big issue is the economy is bad, and I think the war with Iran has a big thing to do, has a lot to do with it, and I think that's really kind of. It's kind of just choking people out.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, you know, people are like, oh, zoomer nihilism. And they're talking about zoomer nihilism. I'm like, well, yeah, it's a. To some degree, a lot of zoomers just don't see a future in the country.

[B]

So, yeah, when you wear Crocs with socks all the time, you're not going to be motivated to, like, do something with your life. I think that's the big problem.

[A]

Well, I blame the Gen Xer and late millennial parents who had the zoomers, because they're, they're culturally.

[C]

But also it's like, look. I mean, look what's being inherited. I mean, you look around if you are a zoomer, and it's not even like, people like, I'm never going to a house. I'm like, it's way deeper than that. I mean, the country that you're inheriting, writing looks nothing like the parent. The 1. The country your parents grew up, and certainly not the country your grandparents grew in. Grew up in. Where, like, again, a lot of kids are growing in schools where, like, no one speaks English or there's, you know, an increase in just antisocial behavior. The economy is not functioning properly. At least it's not sort of giving them any stake in the country, economically speaking. So you just look at it and it's like, obviously they're going to be nihilists. I think it's actually the way around. I think the reason they're wearing cross with the socks. There's just nothing that. Why should I take myself seriously? Which is like, okay, to some degree. Like, I do agree zoomers hold some culpability and their underperformance, but you look around the world, all young people are underperforming in developed economies. And I just, I. I find it hard to believe that it's like, universally there's something just magical about when you're born in the 21st century. There's something wrong with you.

[D]

What do you think about the argument that the. Because of the sentiment is, you know, for. Among zoomers, is like, oh, underperformance. Stuff.

[E]

Stuff.

[D]

What do you think about the people that are like, oh, there has never been a better time for people that actually want to excel?

[C]

No, I. I think that's. I think that's wrong. I think, like, there's. There's multiple ways I could explain that. I mean, a good way to explain that would be watching the show Clarkson's Farm on Amazon, where it's Jeremy Clarkson, he owns a farm. And that show exp. Granted, it's in Britain, but America has a lot of same problems. It exposes you to how much bureaucracy there is in business ownership. And what's so frustrating is Jeremy Clarkson's having all these problems trying to get his farm off the ground and get stuff built, et cetera, et cetera. But then you travel to London, and there will be a vape shop in the center of London, and they're clearly not following any of the rules on the books whatsoever. But Monday morning, they're opening up at 8am so it's like. I think what's really frustrating is that there's a subconscious understanding that there's, like, two tiers of American society where I have all these problems. I have to go and get my car tested for emissions. But then you go down the street and there's these, like, junkers going down the street with illegal immigrants in them or whoever, and they've clearly never even had an emissions test in their entire life. And then there's just this entire apparatus that ensures they can continue on this way. And then likewise, they have a lot of frustrations with the way boomers have sort of conducted themselves, like, with. With politically and how they've operated in the economy and these sorts of things. And that creates a lot of frustration. So they kind of look around like, I don't know if there's any people that are acknowledging that, like, we are inheriting this country.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And so they just tend to just flounder often.

[D]

Chrissy, you have a son, right? I just had a kid, too. What do you. What kind of, like, what do you worry about, like, when it comes to, like, this kind of outlook. Right. It doesn't seem like it's getting better for. For young people. Do you have concerns about, like, what the world's gonna be like when your kid becomes like. Like a teenager? And stuff.

[B]

Also concerned about losing the last 20 pounds of the stubborn baby weight. No. Although that is a concern. Oof. Yeah, it's. It's like I feel like I can't even. Once you have a kid, you're so profoundly thrusted into adulthood in a way, like you. You hadn't been before, like, before. So. Yeah. I just think about, like, what is. I'm afraid he's gonna want to be a comedian. I'm gonna have to deal with that. I'll be. I have to be like, look, look. No, it's not happening. You should have a real job. Don't make mistakes like your mother. I'm gonna pick up smoking.

[A]

There's not gonna be no real jobs, though.

[B]

Yeah. I just don't want them to be a. Don't do YouTube. Don't do comedy. It's.

[A]

Well, that's all there's gonna be. Well, actually, no. No AI is gonna just erase all of this.

[C]

Well, I do think the people that are able to navigate new technologies, Internet, AI, etc, clearly already are over. I mean, the only. The only sector in the economy right now that's, like, putting up numbers is, like, technology. Like, AI. Well, tech sector. So it's like those people most effectively navigate. Also, one more point on the zoomer nihilism. I think the very underrated aspect for why zoomers are so nihilistic is how horrible the dating market is.

[B]

Oh, you're, like, not getting drunk and having, like, you know, poor, poorly decided hookups. They're not. They're not making mistakes. They're not building that kind of character.

[D]

The thing is, I hear all this stuff, and I've got two nephews. One's 21. I think maybe 22. 21? No, 22. Just. Just. Just turned 22. And the other one's 17.

[A]

Right.

[D]

And the one that's 22, he's got a girlfriend. He's learning a trade. Like, he's doing really, really well.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

His younger brother is a little less directed. He's kind of more like, I want to play video games and hang out and stuff. So I guess I see both sides of the. The situation.

[C]

I would say they're outliers, though. I mean, just going off of, like, dating, for example, is the majority of zoomers don't have a girlfriend or boyfriend. The. The data on how many adults under 35 that have had sex in the last, I think, three months, it's about 40%. So it's 40 to 50%. So it's like, again, how are you supposed to Explain to someone you're inheriting this country, you have stake in this country, et cetera, when they're not even like, let alone kids, they don't even know if they're going to get married or have a, you know, long term girlfriend or whatever. Like it's really difficult for young people right now to actually get their feet wet like in life in general. And again, you may be watching this year older and you're like, well that's just something inherently wrong with them. And I'm like again, just kind of look around at like, again just the various economic numbers that are floating around. Again, some of the sociological developments that have occurred because of new technologies. It is real, it is a really hard time. And I can acknowledge that life is easier in the sense of technology has made your everyday life easier than ever. We've never had, you know, the medical advancements are bar none, like no one's dying for no reason or you know, it's very rare that people are dying of like really random. Infant mortality used to be through the roof. Yeah, I guess my point was like infant mortality used to be through the roof. Right. Even fairly recently all these different diseases have been cured, etc. But again we're talking about like two components here is the economy and like the sociological impact. I think a lot of that relates to immigration. I think a lot of that relates to feminism. Yeah, I think there's a two primary culprits actually, but there's a lot of secondary causes as well. It's like you're unraveling a massive.

[B]

Do you think a lot of Gen Z men are looking at social media and being like, well I can't afford to pay for like a girlfriend's lavish lifestyle because like that is what is pushed in the algorithm. It's like these very bougie women that are like, yeah, getting their whole lives paid for. And it's like, well, I can't even afford to move out of my parents house, let alone like, like float another adult.

[C]

That's one of the, that's one of the largest implication, the largest sociological realities that's come out of the social media era is it alters your expectations in life. So a great example of is actually India where India has now gone sub replacement or depending on the year they're teetering on replacement or their sub replacement. Most states in India, they're sub replacement India. And you may be asking, you know, the common understanding for why birth rates dropped was well, when you industrialize and infant mortality goes down, people don't need as many, many kids, because, like, they're not working on a farm. They're not worried about their kids dying. That's been completely eviscerated by India because India is. Although they are urbanizing more and more, this is a country that should still be having sky high birth rates. By. By and large. The explanation a lot of people are proposing, a lot of sociology, sociologists especially are proposing, is that social media is nuking the Indian birth rate because they are seeing beautiful European women on their Instagram feeds. And likewise, the women are seeing, you know, men on social media who are able to provide, you know, this, you know, not even a lavish lifestyle, but just like an American lifestyle, by and large. And so it inflates their, you know. Yeah. Running water toilets. So it inflates their expectations for what they're going to get out of a. Yeah, so it inflates their expectations of what they'll get out of a, you know, man.

[A]

Did you know that? Did you know that in India, people will stand outside the bathroom and relieve themselves on the ground outside because the toilets are so filthy and disgusting inside. They'll walk into the door, turn around, and just dump right in there on the ground.

[B]

I feel that way about Porta Potties.

[A]

Sometimes I'll be like, that's exactly what it is. So there's this like, Poo and Lou thing that everybody was talking about because they put up signs saying Poo and Lou. But one of the reasons the people will go in the street and take a dump is because the bathrooms are so disgusting. Yeah, they literally walk in the middle of the street and just take a dump, then go back inside.

[C]

So, like, that is the pool. You should be selecting your wife or husband because of social media. They can't accept that. They're like, oh, I need someone that can like, provide me these things. Or if they're a man, I should have someone more attractive or something like that.

[B]

Yeah, you're not, like. You're not like, dating. You're. You're a local stable of women.

[C]

You know, they think. Well, they think they have more options. They actually do. And we're seeing this in America with dating apps where it gives you this idea that the amount of people available to you is actually a lot larger than it.

[A]

What? Did you see the viral post on Reddit where the woman said that she was dating her high school from a small town? She dated her high school sweetheart, they got married, and then once they moved closer to the city for work, she started to realize there were a bunch of other guys out there and that there were guys who made more money and were better. And she feels like she made a mistake settling so soon.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, that's, that's like, that's how most people are subconsciously, she's articulate, aware enough, you know, like articulate that. But most people are subconsciously thinking that,

[D]

you know, 100 years ago or what have you, you would like, you would see maybe one beautiful, really beautiful woman in your life, right? Like, so that someone that was exceptionally attractive.

[B]

She's here on the podcast, you know, Chris.

[A]

And if, and if, and if the woman at any point started looking at other guys, you just whack her with a stick. As long as it wasn't wider than your thumbs, right?

[D]

The rule, right.

[B]

This rule of thumb.

[D]

But nowadays, you know, people are fed their Instagram feed and it's just a continuous feed of like, glamorous lifestyle. Even people that aren't, even people that don't like. So there's the, there's this, this one account where the, this woman and this guy, they constantly put up balloons full of shaving cream and water and they pop them on each other's heads, right? They like, you walk in the room and. And shoot it with a dart and the thing falls and hits it. But their house is huge. It's a beautiful house. And they're, you know what you would. They, they aren't like model people. It's not like, you know, you don't expect them to be living in Beverly Hills and stuff, but if you look at their house and you think, well, those are normal people with normal jobs and look at their house and then you're like, oh, man, I got an apartment that, you know, cost me $3,000 and it's half the size and blah, blah. So it makes sense that people are like, oh, I should have more. Because social media has been feeding people the idea. It used to be the only time you'd see things that were like, extravagant is if you watch like Lifetime Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous on Tuesday nights.

[C]

You know, like, I mean, think about the military, right? Like, think about the military in World War II and you had like the Pin up dolls come over and they'd be like, oh, wow, this is amazing.

[B]

Whatever.

[C]

They stopped doing that primarily because they didn't have a need for that anymore because they have, have phones and they have the ability to sort of still stimulate that side of their brain, saying, the burlesque shows used to be huge and now it's not a thing anymore. Like, the only place where There is like this sort of, I would almost say innocent sexual, like sexuality, like, and that sort of thing. It doesn't really exist. Like, you have strip clubs now, but strip clubs are like inherently carnal.

[B]

Burlesque shows were taken over by fat liberal women. So they really.

[A]

They took it over and they put guys in there.

[C]

Oh yeah, they did, yeah.

[D]

Oh, God.

[C]

So yeah, you don't really have any of these. Like, you know, I think there is some truth to the fact that, like, American sexualities are completely warped where, like the most carnal, I would say degenerate aspects of sexuality are still permitted and even praised. But then the healthier aspects, the nice aspects are shamed. And I think the primary reason for that is because left wing people are in charge and they hate beauty. They just fundamentally hate beauty because beauty is inherently hierarchical. You're either beautiful or you're not. Sorry, there's no way around it. So again, the healthier, beautiful aspects of sexuality are now horrifying and like corny or whatever. That's why Disney can't put out any touching romance movies. Like when you're a kid and you're watching Disney movies, there's like, obviously, like romance occurring in the movie, but it's acceptable for a six year old because a six year old can conceptualize it and understand it and the parents are fine at them watching it, but now, like, they can't even produce that anymore because sexuality has been so.

[D]

It's all there.

[A]

Was that cocoa, Was it Coco Melon where the, where the little boy and little girl were sitting in the sand and when the boy got up, he had a. His junk was imprinted in the sand or something.

[B]

What?

[C]

It's just like, I don't know if that was.

[A]

That was Coco trash.

[C]

It's just gross. And nobody has like a healthy relationship with sexuality anymore.

[B]

As a woman, you get called trad simply for just being married and having a kid. Like what?

[D]

You know, that's basically what trad has become. It's not like anything in particular other than like you don't have like a boyfriend and a husband and a girlfriend. Right. Like, if you, as long as you're

[C]

like, like trans, you're basically tried.

[D]

Yeah. If you're, if you're straight and, and have a monogamous relationship.

[A]

Not lesbians are trad now, are they?

[D]

Are they?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, they're trying to. They're trying to get the L out of the lgbt. They're like, we don't want that. And they're being called far right.

[C]

What they're getting.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I said. The Republican Party's gonna be gay communists in 10 years, and the left will just be. AI.

[D]

I don't know. I don't know about that, because the left is. It seems like it's very, very anti AI.

[C]

And you've actually seen, interestingly and in polling, that Republicans are now reversing their views. So for the longest time, especially after a burger fell, Republicans softened on their opposition to gay marriage. But now you're seeing the disapproval of gay marriage go back up again. Because people are, like, correctly identifying that. You give them an inch, they take a mile.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, there was a. I just posted this the other day, but I know I said this before. A big part of the reason why conservatives and normal people are saying, no, we're not for the lgbtq whatever, thing is because the trans people start coming out and saying things like, well, I'm a. You know, trans women. Men come out and say, I'm a trans woman. So it's crazy to me that straight guys won't date me, because that makes them a big. And blah, blah. It's like, look, you're never gonna get.

[B]

Sir.

[D]

You're never gonna get normal dudes to be like, yes, I will date a trans woman and, you know, have a sexual relationship with her, because to a guy that is a homosexual relationship, it. Yeah, like that. Whether or not they, like, it doesn't matter. And that was. That was. In my opinion, that was the line that made people go, hold on a second here. I'm not a bigot because I won't date a trans woman. You know what I mean? It's like, that's just not, like, who you like. Yeah, it's. And so the idea that. That I'm going to be treated as if I'm some kind of hateful monster because, you know, I won't ask the girl. D. You know, it's like, give me a break. Like, that. That, like, just got, like, people aren't going to accept that, but that's.

[C]

And that's. The reality is, like, the only way to undo that is just return back to marriage being banned. Like, again, this is like, if you. If you like to truly be philosophically consistent on this issue, you have to say, actually, no, the sexes aren't equal. And the problem with Obergefell is it institutionalized the sexes being equal by the government, by law. So a marriage was no longer a union of two different things. Now it was. It could be two of the same thing. Like, it totally dissolves Sort of the understanding of the government of how men and women are. Previous to that, by and large, they did view them as sort of separate things, but now it's totally equal. And so, again, you can't really. You can't, like, ratchet it back to an earlier stage of the LGBT thing. It's like, let's freeze it in 2015. Every single time, you're gonna get the same result. Because it's just the natural philosophical evolution.

[A]

We're gonna go to Yo Rumble rants and super chat. So smash the, like button, share the show with everyone you know, and turn up the knob and rip it off

[C]

like an alligator.

[A]

The only one who didn't laugh is the guy who doesn't know what that means.

[C]

Is that, like. Is that Simpsons or something? Probably.

[D]

Yeah. But it was. It was a remarkable.

[A]

It was Family Guy actually. Back in the. Back in the 90s, the radio would be like, you're listening to Kehp, turn the volume up and rip off the knob. And it would, like, echo.

[C]

It's the only time I see family guys in hotels. Like, that's the only thing good on.

[A]

What year were you born?

[C]

2001.

[B]

What?

[A]

This is.

[D]

I told you. He's, like, 17.

[A]

His existential crisis has begun.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But the uncensored portions coming up in a few minutes. So, you know, all right, we got this. Looter. Larry says, not local to me. A local black teen mysteriously died over the Fourth of July. And since his friends were white. Racism. Local protest in Al Sharpton in south Mississippi. I saw that some woman was claiming that black people are being lynched and killed across the country. I just. Bro. I live in West Virginia. It's MAGA country. Everybody's white, and they're waving trans flags in Charlestown. Like, these people are out of their gourds.

[C]

Yeah. And it's like, again, it's just so obvious to a neutral observer that it's black people killing white people at really high rates, not the other way around.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Same old man says, just jail the poor. A British idea. Debtors prison. Then they came to the colonies. How about ship them to Australia or south of the border? That's what I said. The issue with debtors prisons is that you can't collect your debt. So it's like, it was ineffective. They were like, a payment plan of even a dollar a month is better than locking them up where it costs us money.

[B]

Header's prison, also known as Section 8 housing.

[A]

Yikes. Stormbaugh says, I went to Moscow in 93. At stores I had to pay, show receipt, and then get groceries. Sounds like current Las Vegas. Gotta pay first. That's Chicago, actually. You walk into Walgreens Chicago, and it's an empty room, and there's little. Little touch pads, and you touch what you want, someone brings it out to you after you pay. Not a joke. Not a joke.

[C]

Remember in Memphis, they launched a few gas stations? I'm sure they're still operating where it was just. Yeah. Screen. You got your milk, and then a machine brought it to you. There's no interaction with anyone.

[A]

The rich Robin says, as per tradition, wife is currently in labor with number two. Please pray for the newest edition soon to come.

[D]

Let's go.

[C]

Let's go. Welcome to the World Patriot Army. A lot of work to do. We lost the birthright citizenship thing, so just go ahead and start tweeting, like, as soon as you can. Your fingers grow and you can type.

[A]

Phoenix216 says Tim's not really bald. The truth is, I actually have a ton of hair.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And when I took my hat off on Matan's show, we actually planned that whole thing out with a skull cap and a fake. Because when I go out in public and don't be able to recognize me, you can't tell because I have these, like. My hair's like Ian's. It's, like, long and flowing.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Very long.

[E]

Dark.

[A]

Dark. You know, dark brown hair.

[B]

Graphene.

[C]

I remember you had your.

[A]

That's Ian's here, because I remember you

[C]

had your dreads phase. That was interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

People watching this, they don't see, but as soon as the raps hat comes

[A]

on, you know what? You know the worst thing ever was I saw a guy who was balding but had dreads, and it was. It was clear that he didn't want to give it up.

[D]

Devin Townsend.

[A]

So he had. He had a big, thick dreadlock hanging by, like, four hairs.

[C]

Let's go.

[A]

And it's like, bro, at a certain point, it's over. Either put the beanie on or shave

[B]

it off or wrap it around. Wrap the dreadlock around your head.

[E]

Over.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Oil over.

[C]

Be a cool look. Like a little cobra on your head.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

S. Bud. Bud says Ghost in the Shell is awesome. Indeed. Ghost in the Shell is amazing writing. It's. It's. It's excellent.

[D]

Excellent stuff.

[A]

You know what, guys? Just stop putting. Tim won't read this. Okay. Igbalay says Tim won't read this, but the what kind of American are you? Line is hitting a little different these days. Yep.

[D]

I'm the native kind.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm the like, what kind of American are you?

[D]

Sorry. Tate and I were discussing earlier that I looked at my. My. My 23andMe family tree thing, and I found out that I've got family that goes back to like 1633.

[C]

And so, yeah, you saw that ice shooting. You're like, I gotta make sure I'm safe.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So, yeah.

[A]

All right, what do we got here? Gamer says Candace Owens probably wanted to be nominated CEO of TP usa. If they would have done that, she'd be singing Eric's praises. Indeed. Not just that, but she was ousted a while ago. And my understanding is that Charlie was concerned. She's. She's volatile. So he wanted to. He was friends with her. It's not like they weren't friends. But he didn't want to make enemies with Candace, who was pissed off about a lot of things. So he was just like, you know, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer kind of thing. And of course she hated him. She was going around telling people that she hated him because she got ousted from Turning Point. Now she. Now it's just all fake. Everything's fake. They're all lying.

[B]

That she posted posts, like text, old text messages. That's so yucky to me.

[C]

Like, yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

She's just gross.

[A]

All right, what do we got going on? Let's see what's happening here in this year old super tricks. Sane psychopath says, I've been a viewer since I heard of you on Sargon and a Tim cast member since you first launched, but if you don't get Clint Russell on by the end of August, I'll completely unsub and never watch again.

[D]

He's invited.

[A]

Clint Russell had an open invitation to come on the show whenever he wanted and then claimed we weren't inviting him. Him because he's a liar. He then made. He made a video said Israel Derangement Syndrome debunked, where he falsely framed my criticism of Israel and what Israel Derangement Syndrome means. He's now posting things saying like, Lindsey Graham visits a drone factory is dead a day later, and Russia bombs that very same facility. Put on your tinfoil hats. Even though Russia bombed Aerodrone and Lindsey Graham visited Skyfall, which are different facilities. He's just lying. And he's been lying. And there's a lot more than I can say, but I don't want to violate people's trusts. But, yeah, behind the scenes, the things that he's saying to people, dude, he can come on the show and We'll. And we'll roast him for all of his lies and manipulations to his face. But dudes crossed the line a long time ago, bro. You can cancel all you want. Clint crossed a line a long time ago when he decided to lie for money, bro. I'm gonna rag on all the people who do that. Be it left, right, or otherwise. Homeboy sold his soul. And you know what? I'm just going to say it. He's telling people he did it for this reason. Okay? I'm just going to say it because I don't care to play these stupid games. He is telling people. He's literally doing this to grow his audience. I'm not playing these stupid games. Burner account says banning chat. Tim, really? Next thing you'll tell us that you don't know what the oranges are for. It has always been the rule in Tim Cast chat that if you post the same thing three times in a row, you get a timeout. You guys don't get special rules because you want to post oranges or whatever. You post it three times, we put you in timeout for five minutes. You come back and post it again three times, we put you in timeout for a half an hour. That's it. That's it. People get all mad and then they go online and they're like, tim changed his chat to subscriber. Always been subscriber only. Always been. In fact, for. We once had member only chat for a while, and people were like, no, we want to chat. So we changed it to subscriber only.

[D]

All right.

[A]

The Spence. The Spence Fencer. Obama roasted Trump at the White House correspondents dinner in 2011. So Trump did. Did president and saved the USA from communist takeover.

[C]

So true. That's exactly what happened, actually. Like, unironically.

[A]

Yeah. He was like, you'll never be. What did he say on Jimmy Kimmel or whatever? He's like, you'll never be president doing

[C]

the mean tweets on. Yeah. And then he was like, Trump was saying Obama would be like, the worst president. And Trump was. Or Obama said, at least I'll go down as a president.

[A]

Which is a weird thing to say. You know what I mean? It's like, tate, you're never gonna be a great Magic the Gathering player.

[C]

It's like, at least I'll go down as a Magic the Gathering.

[A]

No, but I mean, like, why would you care? You'd be like, okay, I don't.

[E]

I don't.

[A]

I don't play Magic the Gathering. I don't know Like, Obama was like, ha. Well, at least I'm a president. My response that would be like, yeah, I don't want to be president. I don't. I don't. What if a guy was like, well, at least I can say I'm a doctor. And I'm like, you sure can. I didn't want to be a doctor. Never wanted to be a doctor. I don't know how. That's an insult. Yeah, but then Trump became president, so maybe. Maybe he was like, I'll show you

[D]

Obama just because I think that had something to do. It was that and the White House correspondence dinner when he was. When he was stunting on. On Trump, and Trump was like, all right, I'm gonna.

[B]

All right, spite.

[D]

It's on. It's true. I really believe that. I think that he was. Because he's toyed with it so much, like, in the past. He was toying with it in, like, 2000 or whatever, and he was, you know, maybe blah, blah, blah. And then I think that Obama made those remarks, and he's like, anyone run as the Reform.

[A]

Under the Reform Party?

[C]

He was. He was running. He, like, had already filed paperwork and everything. And then I think it was when actually, funny enough, when Pat Buchanan joined, he's like, oh, it's too far.

[D]

No, it was David Duke.

[C]

I thought it was. Or I think Pat Buchanan was already in there. Was it David Duke joined?

[D]

Pretty sure it was.

[C]

I don't think they would have let David Duke. I think it was Pat Buchanan that joined, and Trump was concerned. And then now Trump correctly is identified that Pat Buchanan really is.

[D]

Pat Buchanan is a. Is a patriot hero. He's good.

[C]

He's still alive. He's like nine.

[A]

Everything in politics is fake, guys. It's not an exaggeration. You know, I'm not even. I'm not even kidding that all of it is fake. I mean, like, obviously not literally everything. I'd say it's 80% fake. Like, I think the assassination attempts, they're real. I don't think they're staging those things. That's not the degree of fakeness these people typically want to get involved in, because it's too easy to get caught. If you get caught, it's. It's zero summits. You know, it's. It's. It's all in her fault. But for the most part, these, like, you know, a lot of the man on the street stuff is fake. It's much easier to hire someone to come up and sound like an idiot, because I did this when I Worked for Fusion. I was like, we should go do some Men in the street stuff. This is back in, like, 2015. We're like, oh, this stuff's getting a lot of traction. Let's go do Men in the Street. And I went to Times Square, and I was like, I'm gonna ask people questions, and then we're gonna get a bunch of doofy answers and make a funny video. Literally, not a single doofy answer. Everybody was average and boring, and I was like, wow, that was like a waste of time. We asked people questions about American history, and they got it mostly right. They sounded reasonable. I tried finding dumb people and they. And, you know, you see, these videos are like, can you name a country

[D]

that starts the letter U?

[A]

And they go, Utah. Oh, my God, it's so dumb. No, it never works. You have to fake it, you gent.

[B]

You.

[A]

You really do. Otherwise, you're gonna go out and you're gonna ask 700 people until you find one person stupid. Not. I'm not even kidding. I'm not saying people are generally smart. The average. Average person is pretty much, you know, what do they say? Think about how. George Carlin says, think about how stupid the average person is. Then realize half of them are stupider than that. You go to the average person, say, start a name. A country starts with the letter U. And they're gonna go, Uganda. Almost every time, 99%, they go, Uganda. And I go, oh, that's a good one. Yeah. United States of America. They go, oh, yeah, yeah. I was thinking of other countries.

[B]

It's like, ah, Uruguay.

[D]

That's the one that pops my head first, usually.

[A]

Yeah, you just almost never get these fake answers. Europe, you know, I think if you look at who's. There's a couple of these young guys that go out, and not. Not Nick Shirley, but a couple of these young guys, they do man on the street. And you can tell they're real because the answers they get are pretty average. They'll ask, like, some activists, and the activists will give them a general answer and then, like, walk away or something and get upset. Like, those are real interactions.

[C]

Every time I've done Man on the street for 10 Simcast, like, when I was at, like, the. The King Charles visit or whatever, you know, I've seen. So I'm expecting these people to have, like, some funny things to say, or they, like, wouldn't know who he is or anything. And I was like, yeah, so, you know, like, oh, you know, I. I feel this connection to England. And I was like, oh, these People are all, like, fairly smart. You've got to stay smart. Yeah. So I should have found the one crazy. I found one crazy lady. I was like, I could have just highlighted that.

[A]

But so here's what happens. You're either going to go out and talk to 300 people to get three clips, or you're just going to cast extras, tell them, here's what we want to see, and then have them give their doofy answers. And they're just paid actors.

[C]

They do it for American Idol, where like, all of a sudden it's like, oh, I'm Jimmy the chicken, and I'm a chicken. You're like, what?

[A]

Yeah. So here's the secret of American Idol. I can't speak for it today, but in the 2000s, I had a friend who auditioned. She said that they bring you. They bring all these people in, and you all sit at tables that are numbered. A producer walks over and looks around and will literally just go, I'm sorry. All of you can go home. Before anyone even sings. They'll go to a table, and they'll see people, and they'll go, you, can you sing? And they'll say, okay, stop. You're good. Get up. Come with me. And you can.

[B]

You.

[A]

You get up. Come with me. And the rest of you can go home. Then they bring them into another room where they go, sing, stop. Sing, stop. Sing, stop. Okay, you too. I'm sorry. You can go home. So that means when you see a weird guy who sounds, like, insane, they intentionally brought them in. Now, again, that's just the story that I was told by a friend who went audition. She said that she was told. She went in, and they did it to her, and they said, okay, this. They handed her a song to sing and said, sing this song. And it was like an old. Like, I don't know. I don't know what genres, but like 1950s, you know, pop. Like, not necessarily rock and roll, but kind of. And then they had to just sing this classic song. And then they were like, we appreciate you for time, but you can leave. And that was the end of it. So you never even get in front of the. You know, I had some experience.

[E]

I tried out for the Voice, and they brought like. Like, after we all waited in line for, like, six hours, they brought 10 of us into the room and did exactly like, you go. We pick, like, the best part of the song and just start there. You couldn't bring your phone in, so you didn't know what key it was in. And it was kind of a disaster.

[A]

And then they just said, like, okay, you guys can leave. Thank you. Have a nice day.

[B]

I auditioned for America's got Talent and I had like a speed pass that they were giving out to, like, some of the comedians that like, I don't know. I don't know actually how I got this pass, but it's it like, I didn't go through, like, to the next level because they really are looking for somebody who has no arms or legs, who has full body burn. And it's like you have to have like the saddest, like, human life story. And I guess mine was.

[A]

All right, we got. We got one more d Tomb bomb says in keeping with Tim cast IRO tradition, I want to. I want to welcome Savannah Claire to tomo. Tomo tomoega. I'm probably not saying that wrong. To this world. Born today in Phoenix, Arizona. This is our first baby together. A second child individually. Freedom baby.

[E]

Welcome.

[C]

Welcome to the world, Savannah.

[A]

We're going to head over to the uncensored portion of the [e-mail] Tim Catch IRL so smash the like button. Share the show. You can follow me on x and Instagram at timcast. Chrissy, do you want to shout anything out?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Follow me on Instagram, Rumble YouTube at Chrissy Mayer. And thanks for having me on.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Exit Instagram at realtape Brown and coming out on Rumble tomorrow at noon. I'll be here on Tim cast.

[D]

I am fill the remains on twix. The band is all that remains. You can check our stuff out at Apple music, Amazon music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crying card.

[E]

Carter banks. You can follow me at Carter banks on x at Carter Banks. Official on Instagram. Follow the label at trash house records on YouTube. Chrissy, thanks for coming on. I'm looking forward to getting into the after show.

[A]

We will see you all [e-mail] Timcast IRL right now. Thanks for hanging out.