Timcast IRL — December 16, 2025

Episode: Rob Reiner MURDERED, Son Arrested, Trump Faces Backlash Over Comments w/ Del Bigtree
Host: Tim Pool
Main Guests: Del Bigtree, Phil Labonte, Ian Crossland, Tate Brown

Episode Overview

This episode opens in Las Vegas with Tim Pool and his panel—Del Bigtree, Phil Labonte, Ian Crossland, and Tate Brown—diving into a dark week in news: the murder of Hollywood director Rob Reiner and his wife, the arrest of their son, a series of violent incidents, and Donald Trump’s controversial reaction to Reiner’s death. The discussion spans Trump’s communications style, the polarization around contemporary political violence, cultural divides, the generational labor and population crisis, and the transformation of American society and media—anchored by the episode’s main story but reaching deep into larger trends.

Key Discussion Points

1. Rob Reiner’s Murder and Trump’s Response

Summary:
The tragic murder of director Rob Reiner and his wife by their son (Nick Reiner) triggers nationwide shock and scrutiny, amplified by Trump’s remarks on social media.
Details:
- The Incident: Rob Reiner and wife’s murder was followed by son Nick’s arrest after a party argument (10:00).
- Trump’s Comments: Trump accused Reiner of “Trump Derangement Syndrome,” called him "tortured and struggling but once talented," and doubled down during reporter Q&A, reiterating he “was not a fan” (11:54).
- Panel Reactions:
  - Ian Crossland (12:26): “Homie. It sounds like Trump has Trump Derangement Syndrome.”
  - Tim Pool (13:00): “This was an opportunity for Trump to be magnanimous…Trump had an opportunity to actually say, I know the guy hated me…but I’m truly sad to see this happen…He did that with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.”
  - Del Bigtree (14:24): “It’s not like Trump doesn’t understand the power of sort of playing the nice card…in this situation, he just seemed to let it go…to let his, again, it seems like, you know, I don’t want to say rage, certainly anger towards everything he’s been through…Why not play nice and then take the upper hand?”
  - Phil Labonte (15:18): “It’s typical Trump. I do think it was bad…I wish Trump had been a little more magnanimous, but honestly, it’s going to go away because people will find the next thing to be outrageous at Trump.”
Memorable Quotes:
- Tim Pool (13:00): “This was an opportunity for Trump to be magnanimous.”
- Phil Labonte (16:29): “It doesn’t matter what Trump says. The policies that Trump wants to have, the left are going to act like he is the worst thing ever.”
- Tate Brown (17:09): “It’s really hard to take criticism from people who dunked all over Charlie Kirk when he died…”
Public/Panel Debate:
The panel expresses, with some frustration, the futility and exhaustion at both the left’s glee over right-wing deaths and Trump’s lack of grace—debating whether responding in kind is a trap (“we are going to be the side where you know people will genuinely feel bad if you die”—Tim Pool, 19:03).

2. Violent Plots and the State of Political Extremism

Overview:
Escalating violence and terror threats—Bondi Beach Hanukkah shooting, Brown University attack, thwarted New Year’s Eve bomb plot—are discussed as symptoms of a fracturing U.S. political and cultural landscape (02:10, 23:06).
FBI Foils Bomb Plot:
- Alleged radical pro-Palestinian group, Turtle Island Liberation Front, planned New Year’s Eve IED attacks; panel agitates over media framing as “right wing,” despite clearly leftist anti-colonial rhetoric.
- Phil Labonte (25:52): “It’s a good thing the DOJ is actually focusing on homegrown terror from the left…Look at how much violence they're actually carrying out in the United States.”
- Tim Pool (27:44): “Political violence is going to keep getting worse…it’s not just left-right...you've just got whackaloon groups popping up all over the place. That’s what’s got me worried.”
Ideological Analysis:
- Franz Fanon and ‘Decolonization’ (30:33):
  Phil discusses the leftist embrace of Fanon’s belief that “decolonization is inherently violent,” making peaceful debate impossible.
- Tim Pool (31:37): Pushes back on left/right labels, blaming Internet for atomization of political identities.
- Del Bigtree & Tim Pool (34:14): Question whether most mainstream Democratic voters even know the policies they’re supporting—“it’s the banality of evil… Just because they’re ignorant doesn’t mean they’re excused” (Tim Pool, 35:53).

3. Candace Owens, Conservative Drama, and Movement Destabilization

Summary:
Following the assassination of Turning Point’s Charlie Kirk, media drama erupts with speculations from Candace Owens about possible security failures or conspiracies—drawing harsh critique from Tim and guests (40:38).
Key Insights:
- Tim Pool (43:37): “Candace Owens has the same security team as Turning Point and Charlie Kirk did. She’s lying…She is exploiting this, and she knows she is to keep people wrapped up in this insanity.”
- Del Bigtree (49:17):** “...whether or not you’re controlled opposition, if you’re acting like it, this is tearing apart a movement right now...do not follow people that tear us apart.”
- Ian Crossland (52:00): “If someone says something that’s true but they use the truth in a way to divide and destroy...then that person...is bad for society in that moment…”
Broader Context:
Candace’s drama is attributed to a desperate search for engagement in a “slow” holiday news cycle, and the rise of “influencer drama politics” over real policy analysis (54:49).

4. The ‘Birth Gap’, Economic Collapse, and Social Atomization

American Civilization at a Tipping Point:
- Discussion broadens to sharp labor shortages, declining birthrates, stagnating or collapsing youth participation in historic social institutions (sports, church, entry-level jobs), and runaway inflation/asset price inflation.
Key Quotes and Issues:
- Tim Pool (65:53): “We are in a major fertility crisis and population is shrinking…There is no civilization in the history of this planet that has recovered from a birth rate at this level.”
- Phil Labonte (85:29): “When you have the ability to have a robot for...$50,000 that can be trained...that’s less than you’d pay a human to do the job for a year...I do think robotics will be able to do a lot of the things humans do now.”
Panel’s Prescription and Worries:
- Frustration that incentives for young people to enter trade work, take risks, or form families are gone; AI and robotics might replace entry-level labor, but create existential alienation (84:31).
- Quote - Drew Ski (86:14): “There’s no way it’s going to be a planet of useless eaters and that’s how they’re going to be seen.”
Zoomers and Atomization:
- Gen Z described as highly risk-averse, non-participatory, and unable/unwilling to “matriculate” into society, with effects on housing markets, pop culture, and national cohesion (77:48).
- “Horny men build the West. If you’re not actually seeking to build a place for a family...what’s the point of working?” —Tate Brown (92:00)

5. Culture, Media, and Orwell's Animal Farm Retold

Hollywood Ideological Remaking:
- Angel Studios’ new Animal Farm adaptation is derided for flipping Orwell’s anti-communist parable into an anti-capitalist fable.
- Phil Labonte (59:40): “The original meaning of Animal Farm was that capitalism is bad because the pigs become like the farmer. And so it’s actually a critique of capitalism. It's not a critique of socialism, which is totally retconning…”
- Tim Pool (62:47): “They have taken a book that is explicitly anti-communist and turned it into purely anti-capitalist. Because communists run Hollywood.”
Meta Observations:
- Discussion of the collapse of monoculture and absence of mass, unifying entertainers for younger generations: “Why isn’t Vegas drawing younger stars? Because there aren’t any, because there aren’t young people.” (96:01)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Trump’s Comments:
- Ian Crossland: "It sounds like Trump has Trump Derangement Syndrome." (12:26)
- Tim Pool: "This was an opportunity for Trump to be magnanimous." (13:00)
On Candace Owens and Conservative Infighting:
- Tim Pool: "Candace Owens has the same security team… She is lying outright…" (43:37)
- Ian Crossland: "It’s possible that you are a lying grifter piece of shit and you always have been." (47:16)
On Gen Z and Demoralization:
- Tate Brown: "Horny men build the West. If you’re not actually seeking to build a place for a family…what’s the point of working?" (92:00)
On the Economy and Social Change:
- Tim Pool: “We are in a major fertility crisis and population is shrinking...” (65:53)
- Phil Labonte: “Robotics will be able to do a lot of the things humans do now...” (85:29)

Important Timestamps

Rob Reiner murder + Trump’s response: 02:10, 10:00–18:00
Political violence and terrorism plots: 23:06–31:37
Candace Owens/TPUSA drama: 40:38–54:49
Birthrate/AI/Robots/Future of labor: 65:53–86:14
Animal Farm, Hollywood, cultural atomization: 59:40–70:00, 96:01–100:00

Tone and Style

The episode is frank, irreverent, and occasionally caustic—in line with Timcast IRL’s reputation for “uncensored” commentary. The panelists show frustration with political hypocrisy, media spin, and the erosion of cultural and civilizational bedrock, but also some humor and self-awareness about their own generational roles (“I know I sound like a dad. Totally a dad right now...” —Drew Ski).

For New Listeners

This episode is a microcosm of the wider Timcast IRL style—the panel walks the line between news commentary, generational laments, and movement introspection, with a strong focus on cultural trends and ideological drift. If you’re looking for a sweeping and sometimes biting take on the week’s big stories—and how they tie into America’s deeper anxieties about identity, meaning, and the future—this is a classic, sprawling Timcast episode.

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Timcast IRL — December 16, 2025

Episode: Rob Reiner MURDERED, Son Arrested, Trump Faces Backlash Over Comments w/ Del Bigtree
Host: Tim Pool
Main Guests: Del Bigtree, Phil Labonte, Ian Crossland, Tate Brown

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points

1. Rob Reiner’s Murder and Trump’s Response

Summary:
The tragic murder of director Rob Reiner and his wife by their son (Nick Reiner) triggers nationwide shock and scrutiny, amplified by Trump’s remarks on social media.
Details:
- The Incident: Rob Reiner and wife’s murder was followed by son Nick’s arrest after a party argument (10:00).
- Trump’s Comments: Trump accused Reiner of “Trump Derangement Syndrome,” called him "tortured and struggling but once talented," and doubled down during reporter Q&A, reiterating he “was not a fan” (11:54).
- Panel Reactions:
  - Ian Crossland (12:26): “Homie. It sounds like Trump has Trump Derangement Syndrome.”
  - Tim Pool (13:00): “This was an opportunity for Trump to be magnanimous…Trump had an opportunity to actually say, I know the guy hated me…but I’m truly sad to see this happen…He did that with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.”
  - Del Bigtree (14:24): “It’s not like Trump doesn’t understand the power of sort of playing the nice card…in this situation, he just seemed to let it go…to let his, again, it seems like, you know, I don’t want to say rage, certainly anger towards everything he’s been through…Why not play nice and then take the upper hand?”
  - Phil Labonte (15:18): “It’s typical Trump. I do think it was bad…I wish Trump had been a little more magnanimous, but honestly, it’s going to go away because people will find the next thing to be outrageous at Trump.”
Memorable Quotes:
- Tim Pool (13:00): “This was an opportunity for Trump to be magnanimous.”
- Phil Labonte (16:29): “It doesn’t matter what Trump says. The policies that Trump wants to have, the left are going to act like he is the worst thing ever.”
- Tate Brown (17:09): “It’s really hard to take criticism from people who dunked all over Charlie Kirk when he died…”
Public/Panel Debate:
The panel expresses, with some frustration, the futility and exhaustion at both the left’s glee over right-wing deaths and Trump’s lack of grace—debating whether responding in kind is a trap (“we are going to be the side where you know people will genuinely feel bad if you die”—Tim Pool, 19:03).

2. Violent Plots and the State of Political Extremism

Overview:
Escalating violence and terror threats—Bondi Beach Hanukkah shooting, Brown University attack, thwarted New Year’s Eve bomb plot—are discussed as symptoms of a fracturing U.S. political and cultural landscape (02:10, 23:06).
FBI Foils Bomb Plot:
- Alleged radical pro-Palestinian group, Turtle Island Liberation Front, planned New Year’s Eve IED attacks; panel agitates over media framing as “right wing,” despite clearly leftist anti-colonial rhetoric.
- Phil Labonte (25:52): “It’s a good thing the DOJ is actually focusing on homegrown terror from the left…Look at how much violence they're actually carrying out in the United States.”
- Tim Pool (27:44): “Political violence is going to keep getting worse…it’s not just left-right...you've just got whackaloon groups popping up all over the place. That’s what’s got me worried.”
Ideological Analysis:
- Franz Fanon and ‘Decolonization’ (30:33):
  Phil discusses the leftist embrace of Fanon’s belief that “decolonization is inherently violent,” making peaceful debate impossible.
- Tim Pool (31:37): Pushes back on left/right labels, blaming Internet for atomization of political identities.
- Del Bigtree & Tim Pool (34:14): Question whether most mainstream Democratic voters even know the policies they’re supporting—“it’s the banality of evil… Just because they’re ignorant doesn’t mean they’re excused” (Tim Pool, 35:53).

3. Candace Owens, Conservative Drama, and Movement Destabilization

Summary:
Following the assassination of Turning Point’s Charlie Kirk, media drama erupts with speculations from Candace Owens about possible security failures or conspiracies—drawing harsh critique from Tim and guests (40:38).
Key Insights:
- Tim Pool (43:37): “Candace Owens has the same security team as Turning Point and Charlie Kirk did. She’s lying…She is exploiting this, and she knows she is to keep people wrapped up in this insanity.”
- Del Bigtree (49:17):** “...whether or not you’re controlled opposition, if you’re acting like it, this is tearing apart a movement right now...do not follow people that tear us apart.”
- Ian Crossland (52:00): “If someone says something that’s true but they use the truth in a way to divide and destroy...then that person...is bad for society in that moment…”
Broader Context:
Candace’s drama is attributed to a desperate search for engagement in a “slow” holiday news cycle, and the rise of “influencer drama politics” over real policy analysis (54:49).

4. The ‘Birth Gap’, Economic Collapse, and Social Atomization

American Civilization at a Tipping Point:
- Discussion broadens to sharp labor shortages, declining birthrates, stagnating or collapsing youth participation in historic social institutions (sports, church, entry-level jobs), and runaway inflation/asset price inflation.
Key Quotes and Issues:
- Tim Pool (65:53): “We are in a major fertility crisis and population is shrinking…There is no civilization in the history of this planet that has recovered from a birth rate at this level.”
- Phil Labonte (85:29): “When you have the ability to have a robot for...$50,000 that can be trained...that’s less than you’d pay a human to do the job for a year...I do think robotics will be able to do a lot of the things humans do now.”
Panel’s Prescription and Worries:
- Frustration that incentives for young people to enter trade work, take risks, or form families are gone; AI and robotics might replace entry-level labor, but create existential alienation (84:31).
- Quote - Drew Ski (86:14): “There’s no way it’s going to be a planet of useless eaters and that’s how they’re going to be seen.”
Zoomers and Atomization:
- Gen Z described as highly risk-averse, non-participatory, and unable/unwilling to “matriculate” into society, with effects on housing markets, pop culture, and national cohesion (77:48).
- “Horny men build the West. If you’re not actually seeking to build a place for a family...what’s the point of working?” —Tate Brown (92:00)

5. Culture, Media, and Orwell's Animal Farm Retold

Hollywood Ideological Remaking:
- Angel Studios’ new Animal Farm adaptation is derided for flipping Orwell’s anti-communist parable into an anti-capitalist fable.
- Phil Labonte (59:40): “The original meaning of Animal Farm was that capitalism is bad because the pigs become like the farmer. And so it’s actually a critique of capitalism. It's not a critique of socialism, which is totally retconning…”
- Tim Pool (62:47): “They have taken a book that is explicitly anti-communist and turned it into purely anti-capitalist. Because communists run Hollywood.”
Meta Observations:
- Discussion of the collapse of monoculture and absence of mass, unifying entertainers for younger generations: “Why isn’t Vegas drawing younger stars? Because there aren’t any, because there aren’t young people.” (96:01)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Trump’s Comments:
- Ian Crossland: "It sounds like Trump has Trump Derangement Syndrome." (12:26)
- Tim Pool: "This was an opportunity for Trump to be magnanimous." (13:00)
On Candace Owens and Conservative Infighting:
- Tim Pool: "Candace Owens has the same security team… She is lying outright…" (43:37)
- Ian Crossland: "It’s possible that you are a lying grifter piece of shit and you always have been." (47:16)
On Gen Z and Demoralization:
- Tate Brown: "Horny men build the West. If you’re not actually seeking to build a place for a family…what’s the point of working?" (92:00)
On the Economy and Social Change:
- Tim Pool: “We are in a major fertility crisis and population is shrinking...” (65:53)
- Phil Labonte: “Robotics will be able to do a lot of the things humans do now...” (85:29)

Important Timestamps

Rob Reiner murder + Trump’s response: 02:10, 10:00–18:00
Political violence and terrorism plots: 23:06–31:37
Candace Owens/TPUSA drama: 40:38–54:49
Birthrate/AI/Robots/Future of labor: 65:53–86:14
Animal Farm, Hollywood, cultural atomization: 59:40–70:00, 96:01–100:00

Tone and Style

For New Listeners

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Summary

Timcast IRL — December 16, 2025

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points

1. Rob Reiner’s Murder and Trump’s Response

2. Violent Plots and the State of Political Extremism

3. Candace Owens, Conservative Drama, and Movement Destabilization

4. The ‘Birth Gap’, Economic Collapse, and Social Atomization

5. Culture, Media, and Orwell's Animal Farm Retold

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Important Timestamps

Tone and Style

For New Listeners

Summary

Timcast IRL — December 16, 2025

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points

1. Rob Reiner’s Murder and Trump’s Response

2. Violent Plots and the State of Political Extremism

3. Candace Owens, Conservative Drama, and Movement Destabilization

4. The ‘Birth Gap’, Economic Collapse, and Social Atomization

5. Culture, Media, and Orwell's Animal Farm Retold

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Important Timestamps

Tone and Style

For New Listeners