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Friday was a heck of a show. Oh boy, did I get in trouble from the things that Milo was saying about Candace and his w. I'm sorry, not just Candace, but Charlie Kirk as well and Benny Johnson. Geez. Wow. And so we left the show that night thinking everything was. I don't know if normal is the right word because it's hard to describe. Anything in the past year or a couple years or even decade is normal, I guess. But, you know, here we are and the simple version of the story, which we'll get into in a little bit more detail obviously later on, but a vehicle was slowly approaching the property.
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It got.
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I got to keep some of the details vague just for security reasons, but.
One shot was fired. It then picks up speed, and then once it lines up at the studio, two more shots are fired. We don't know what it is, right. Based on the threats that we'd already received. Threats to shoot up the studio and to kill us. We're just operating under the presumption it's targeted. But all we really know is be it an attempted intimidation or actually just a weak, you know, I guess, what do we call it? Antifa. Terrible aim. Attempts to kill us we don't know who did it or you know, or why. But the presumption is, again, we had received threats months ago, some of the more credible threats to come and shoot up the studio. One thing that I've never talked about, but as of today I have, is we routinely get people pulling up to the property in the middle of the night and just sitting there, just literally idling their cars in front of our property. We have a security perimeter, we have a six foot tall gate, and we've got armed guards and they'll flicker lights at them and the people will speed off. Our old property still gets harassed, people still show up. I've told the story. A year ago, a man in a dress showed up and physically attacked one of the residents. And then even recently, a man showed up taking pictures and filming on the property, even though we aren't there. It's a private residence, so things are getting a bit serious. And we got the crew here, we talked about it, we've got footage of what happened. And we also had this other story that interestingly, and I don't know if interesting is the right word, but Benny Johnson posted that a man had been arrested for stalking him. Laura Loomer, Matt Walsh, Katzert threatening to kill Matt Walsh and his family. And oh boy, as we enter a political year, things are just getting crazy. They're getting absolutely crazy. Charlie Kirk is dead and this stuff is just getting worse. And I believe what the. The most terrifying thing about the political environment that we are in is that Turning Point usa, Charlie Kirk's organization, lost its founder, its leader, its greatest advocate, and somehow a section of our political war, you know, population has turned Turning Point into the perpetrators of the crime they were victims of. It's psychotic. And here we are. That's how crazy things are getting. So of course we're gonna talk about that and a lot more. I know this is a rather serious opening and there are very serious implications as to how we continue doing this show. We talked about this back in October. We talked about this after Charlie was murdered and we started receiving serious threats and people started posting all across social media saying kill Tim Pool and things of that nature. And, you know, we had talked about how if we decide to make a move, isolate, shut down, whatever it is, it will feel premature. I feel like now after three shots are fired at our studio, it doesn't feel premature anymore. But I don't know exactly how or what to do. And there's a lot to talk about. So we'll go over this. There's a lot of, I guess just crazy shenanigans that are happening, as you know with the following last Friday's episode. So we'll talk about that. And in true nightmare dystopia fashion, we got a sponsor for you, Tax Network usa, A Geo Back taxes or haven't filed in years. Now it's time to resolve your tax matters. With the national conversation around abolishing the income tax system, the IRS is fighting back and proving it's here to stay by becoming more aggressive than ever before. They're sending out more collection notices, filing more tax liens and collecting billions more than in recent years. If you owe the irs, if you owe, the IRS can take your wages, bank accounts or security retirement and even your home if you owe or haven't filed. It's not a question of if the IRS will act, it's when. Right now, Tax Network USA is offering a completely free IRS research and discovery call to show you exactly where you stand and what they can stop before it's too late. Their powerful programs and strategies can save you thousands or even eliminate your debt entirely. If you want to. Don't make a serious mistake representing yourself or calling the IRS on your own. Waiving your rights and cost can cost you more money. They are not on your side. Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process on settling your tax matters once and for all today. Call 1-800-958-1000 or click the link below for your free discovery call with Tax Network usa. Don't the IRS be the first to act. And my friends go to Casper.com. we got pool water. 105 cases left. That's it. You want to get it? Now's your chance. I'm drinking pool water right now. In fact, look at this. Crisping pool water. Refreshing. When I say depressing, defreshing. Quite defreshing. So my friends, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, it's been taxing. It has been. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we have Gary the numbers guy.
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How we doing today, brother?
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Not well.
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I see. Well, I mean, Milo just left, so makes sense.
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You know, Milo stresses me out, but I do enjoy his company. It's.
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You sure those shots weren't fired at Milo?
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Oh, Milo wasn't here.
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Okay.
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Yeah, he was in here. We, we had, we had left for the night. We had wrapped the show up. Bill, who are you? What do you do?
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I do numerology and astrology. Basically, before I came along, most people who did this line of work with your women or homosexual men? And I kind of changed that a little bit when it comes down, only a little bit.
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So you are somewhat gay?
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No, no, no, I, I've definitely been married for 21 years. Got kids. We, we don't do that Milo stuff here. But when it comes down to it, what you have to understand is I believe this is a virtual reality we live in. And I believe numerology and astrology are the cheat codes. And as the show goes on, I'll try to express my thoughts to your audience.
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It is fun stuff. You know, to be completely honest, it is fun stuff, so. Should be fun. Thanks. For now, Shane is hanging out.
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What's up, Shane, Host of Inverted World Live. I just wanted to share this really quick for God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and a sound mind. That's from Second Timothy 1:7.
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A lot.
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Wow, Shane, that was powerful. Thanks for saying that. Good evening everybody. I am a lot Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Tim cast. I'm not going to Phil yet because we have Ian in the studio with us as well. What up?
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Hi everybody. And Shane, Nice one. Bravery is the name of the game, my man. That's it, Gary, great stuff, dude. And I think you're probably right about astrology. You know, if radiation is refracting through our bodies and through planets and stuff, it could easily be imprinting on us and creating, you know, fractals of ways of behavior. That's right, Milo, I said fractals. Phil Labonte's in the house.
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Love you, Ian.
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Hello everybody.
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My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer the heavy metal band all that Remains of an Anti Communist and a Counter Revolutionary. Let's get into it.
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Well, we're going to start with the, you know, what happened over the weekend and I talked about a bit this morning. I'm interested to hear what the crew thinks. But you know, back in October we, I was in, I was in Phoenix. I went to Turning Point to do the show with, with the Turning Point crew and the Charlie Kirk show crew. We had received a threat that I don't, I don't know if we described at the time in detail because we, we often refrain from exposing some of the finer details because it will make your security worse. It will increase the threat and the risk and the threat was to come and shoot the place. We were in contact with the FBI. Look like Cash and Dan have been on the show. Okay, I know these guys, right and we got in touch directly with some great people at the FBI who said that they were working on this and they were in touch with our crew, and they believed that it was credible because it fit a pattern of other shootings based on the information that was conveyed in it. And so I believe they're currently tracking that down. I believe it's an. I don't know what the deal is going on with it, but I think it's an open case maybe. And it's not the only one we've received. We've. We've received a lot of veiled threats and general death threats. And then Saturday between midnight and 1am a vehicle slowly approaching the property opens fire. Then it drives past our driveway to where our studio is. Two more shots are fired. And, you know, the first thing everybody did was just, you know, try to rationalize. So the first thing that happens, our security guards report shots fired. And.
I mean, it's. It's a crazy thing to hear. And we were out. You know, we. We had left the show. We were going to hang out, right? We go do our stuff. We get drinks or play poker or something like that. And so I head back and I'm like, what's going on? What happened? And then, like, some car was lurking around and it fired a shot or something like that. So, you know, we. We have increased security. We don't exactly know what's happening at this time, but we've. We've got armed guards, right? So in the morning, we reviewed security footage, and.
It'S. It's three clear gunshots.
We don't know why, right? We could ignore everything and just say, you know what? Sometimes out in the country, people, Yosemite Sam, you know what I mean, they take their guns and they go.
But that's never happened before. And we've been here for four years. And considering the threats, considering the political climate we're in, we can look at it a bunch of different ways.
I think it was targeted, I think, based on the threats that we had received, I think, and escalated quite a bit in recent history, in the past couple of weeks, that it was. My thoughts are intimidation. This is. It's like that old story where they said, you know, a guy. A guy hears a gunshot in his neighborhood and he runs out in his backyard and he sees an old man firing gun into the ground, and he's like, what are you doing? And he's like, keeping the property taxes down. So the idea is just the shot itself can disrupt an area. It can cause serious problems with.
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It.
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Can cause problems with our guests. So what would this be? If I'm gonna do the math and it's just like a random country shooting for no reason right in front of our studio. Makes no sense. Intimidation makes the most sense. It's not, I wouldn't call it impossible, but I'm trying to be, I'll try to be vague on security, but it's difficult to, to come here with weapons because we are, we have a security perimeter, we have armed guards. So intimidation seems to make the most sense. And I think that's what the, what the attempt was.
Yeah. And so, you know, here we are, this is the climate we are in. There's no amount of security that can protect you from.
Drive by shootings. There's no amount of security. So we can have people here and you know, they can report our bullet ridden corpses should something truly dark happen. But it's not like they're going to stop someone from pulling off more serious attacks. So we have to have a discussion and we've had a discussion earlier today with the company about how we move forward. And you know, I'd argue that it looks bleak, but I don't think it's reflective of what we do here. I think it's reflective of the greater political climate as to why it looks bleak. I'll throw it to the crew. Just curious what you guys think about everything that's going on and based on.
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I'm just curious, do any liberals have these problems?
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No.
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Any Democrats have these problems? No, no. They know only the conservatives have problems. We've got people killed, we got people targeted. I mean, well, to be fair, Josh.
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Shapiro's house was firebombed.
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I will also say Nancy Pelosi's home was raided by a guy with a hammer.
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With a hammer. I thought that was a lover of somebody.
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Still, violence. I don't know if it was a.
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Lover'S quarrel, but, but overall there's also violence in California.
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There is violence. I'm sure AOC gets a ton of threats.
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Yeah, but I mean, you're not to your point. I mean, you're, you're right, but at the end of the day, like the actual attacks, I mean, whether it be the attempts on Donald Trump's life, you know, what happened to Charlie Kirk, Steve Scalise a few years back, the shooting at the congressional baseball game that, that was intended to target, you know, Republicans generally, the attacks that lately have actually resulted in, in maimings and loss of life, they've all been attacks against Republicans, against conservatives and Whether or not you think it was. Was actually politically motivated target and what was targeted, or if it was just people that knew that they don't like Tim Pool or the stuff that we do here. So they went to try to send a message that doesn't matter really, because at the end of the day, you know, the next one might actually be someone that's trying to get a person, you know, whether or not they. They're targeting Tim or just anyone here, you know, that's something that. That. That's a real tangible threat.
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Now, what's the. One of the first things you guys told me when I came here? No talk of political violence whatsoever. We need the leftists to start doing the same thing.
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Well, we said, don't make threats.
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Don't make threats. Don't.
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But talk about violence.
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Well, obviously, but what I'm basically trying to tell you is the Democrats will never tell that to their followers. No, never tell him. Slow down. Like, when Charlie Kirk died, I was disgusted with all the people who were celebrating.
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They either celebrated or they said, that's what Charlie gets for speaking these hateful things.
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Yeah, that's the price of.
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What more could he have expected, I suppose.
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And it's something that even people in Congress, I think, specifically when it comes to Charlie and the assassination of. The assassination of Charlie Kirk, people in positions of power, they generally had the right. They made. They sent the right message. There weren't people in Congress, they weren't. Weren't notable Democrats that were saying, oh, this is good. But the. The rank and file were celebrating, first of all. And then if you look back to the summer of love, the summer of riots in 2020, there were plenty of people in Congress egging on the rioters, saying things like, we need to be out in the streets. We need more of it. You had the.
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The. You had.
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Kamala Harris was. Was shilling a website that was paying for the defense, the legal defense of these people. So to your point, absolutely. There needs to be Democrats that are actually standing up and saying, this is something that we disavow, and they need to do it more often because I think that the. The people on the ground, they. They hear a totally different message than the one that the major players are playing.
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You know, I believe this is more of a symptom of the times than anything else. We live in an era of political assassinations. People feel as though they feel emboldened to take action into their own hands, and they feel as though they're justified in taking that action. It isn't only shots on the President Trump's. That President Trump that we saw, you know, in Japan there was a very, on a very effective, I hate to use that word, political assassination of Shinzo Abe. I listened to Tim's show earlier today where he put it extremely succinct but it was so morbid. It was an effective, the most effective political assassination. I think that you generation of our generation of Charlie Kirk because what. What happened following the death of Charlie Kirk. The right is in complete disarray.
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Yeah.
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And I think these people are emboldened by things like that.
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The Turning Point has become the perpetrator of the crime in which they were the victim. That. That is probably one of the most terrifying things out of all of this. Charlie Kirk built an organization that registered young people to vote, convinced young people to support a populist pro American nationalist. All these, you know, this, this big coalition. He is murdered by all means ask questions about. By who, whatever you want to think. And today a large portion of people believe Turning Point the victim is actually the perpetrator. That's how terrifying the political climate is. The left doesn't have this degree of self sabotage. And so if you think about. Not only did the left get everything they could have dreamed of from the murder of Charlie Kirk and again I don't know what Robinson's political affiliation is. He's got a transfer. Your boyfriend. We'll see what the evidence shows.
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So you believe the FBI story?
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I. That's. I'm just. I'm so what does that mean? What does that mean?
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Oh what the FBI says Taro Robinson did all that. So do you believe.
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If I think that the evidence we have seen thus far Occam's razor suggests Robinson is the likely culprit. We will see what happens in the trial when evidence is presented. But there's literally no other story. Just a bunch of fucking retards on the Internet saying stupid shit. And what that does is the organization that helped get Donald Trump elected, which needs to persist. You've got to be a fan of it. But it certainly will help get individual congressional candidates elected and stop Democrats from launching new committees and putting more people in prison like Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro. Instead it's being gutted by fucking psychopaths telling people to pull their donations. So when this organization burns to the ground or wherever the fuck happens to it, maybe, maybe they're. Maybe they're fine. The organization that's rallying young people causing a shift in the political leanings of a generation for the first Time in history is now in dire straits. Their leader and founder murdered. And prominent pieces of human trash are trying to destroy it. It's. It's fucking evil. So you know what? When someone pulls in front of my property and fires on it several times, I'm sitting here looking at these vile pieces of shit and thinking to myself, for what purpose will I stick my neck out if this is what happens after Charlie Kirk is killed. Candace Owens is a fucking evil scumbag. She is a degenerate cunt. She is burning everything down and she's gloating and smiling while she does it. And you know what you fucking told me. She has no security. She doesn't fucking deal with the shit we have to deal with. She's a piece of shit. She's making everyone else suffer. And all of these fucking conservatives out there that send me these fucking messages have no fucking balls to call her out. More and more people have started doing it. They send me these fucking messages. Good for you, Tim. Good for you, Tim. I wasn't the first person to do it. I'm not gonna take credit for that. But don't fucking DM me like I did something for you. As you cower. As you fucking cower, Scared that she'll put you on her thumbnail and claim you benefited from. From Charlie Kirk's assassination. What she's doing to me right fucking now.
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Yeah, that was the.
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I'm fucking done with these people.
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She has security, just not on the level of you.
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Oh yeah, the one fat guy you mentioned with no wall and no barrier in a suburban neighborhood with neighbors shouldn't give two fucking shits. No one's out for her. She's lying about all of this. You told me you went to her house and she's got a four foot wall and one fat guy and she doesn't give a shit about her security. Meanwhile, I get bullets fired at my fucking property and I have to go live in the middle of nowhere. And I got fucking strangers coming up to my house in Maryland, breaking in. I got people showing up and beating, beating up the residents who trying to live there. How the fuck am I even supposed to sell this property? And you know it's all lies. It's all hypocrisy and it is for the purpose of making money. And she does not live the way other people live. And she claims she liked Charlie, she loved Charlie. And she is burning everything down that he built because she is evil. She is evil. And I'll say it again, this conservative movement is fractured. It's fried, whatever it is. Okay? Republicans are on track to lose the midterms. They were actually trending the other direction until Charlie Kirk was murdered. And this is the point, isn't it? The most effective political assassination in history, and thanks to the likes of the vile cunt Candace Owens, she has turned Turning Point into the perpetrators of the crime that was against them. I don't get paid by any of these people. I'm not on good terms necessarily with Turning Point usa. They didn't invite me to their stupid event. I don't want to go in. I don't want to go. They invited me back after I started criticizing Kat. I'm not going to your event. I'm over all of this shit. The last thing that I need to deal with is a bunch of cowards in conservative media refusing to stand up to her. Megyn Kelly, come on. I appreciate the kind words, but come on. Such fucking pathetic bullshit, you know, And I get people saying, tim, you know, thank you so much for talking about. I don't care. I'm not doing a favor for anybody. I'm not doing this to benefit anybody. Nobody's paying me. There's no fudgeing Russia. There's no fudgeing Israel. There's just me sticking my neck out and then risking dying for what? A bunch of cowards that I want to stand up to protect themselves. People like fudgeing Candace Owens.
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I couldn't believe that she put you in the. In the thumbnail.
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Fucking cunt of her. Her.
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Her piece today.
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I'm done.
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The idea that she didn't fucking. That you had some benefit or that you benefit somehow, like it.
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She benefited. I think she's a fat. And I think she killed Charlie. No one benefited more than her. And now she is. When you look at what's stopping us from winning in 2026 right now, what the biggest threat and the biggest fear we have is, it is the disarray on the right. It is the fracturing of the coalition of all the different voices that came together and stopped the neoliberal bullshit liberal economic order machine that was coming out and telling everybody to chop their dicks off and. And that you had to get fucking injected or get locked in your house. And here we have a coalition resisting and rejecting that Charlie Kirk dies, and he's not perfect. He loved Israel. Some people don't like that. But he certainly did organize a movement that brought people together, that helped get Trump elected, helped Republicans win, and resisted what the Democratic Party had been doing. And these psychopath Institutions. I don't want to go back to Covid. Does everybody remember what that was like when you were locked in your home, you had to wear two masks and you couldn't go anywhere unless they stuck you in the arm. And the only resistance we had was these feckless loser Republicans who've got nothing done over the past year. And now Charlie Kirk was murdered, and we say, holy crap, what do we do? How do we keep things together? And Candace with a smile on her face and Ian Carroll and all the rest of them say Turning Point did it to themselves. They destroyed themselves. Polyure donations, because they work for Israel. Even Nick Fuentes calling it out, saying, this is psychotic. So when we lose in the midterms and the Democrats bring back their panels and their subpoenas and they start arresting people like they had already done in the past four years, and then we get whatever the equivalent of lockdowns is going to be, and you get President Gavin Newsom, you can mark it all back to this moment when you had evil stand, scream, and cowards refuse to do anything.
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With all due respect, always, every single president loses in midterms.
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And guess what?
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Single one.
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The prediction markets showed that it was near 50. 50, based on the political swing that we had seen. Gen Z, the first generation in 100 years to tick slightly rightward in some areas. Not all, but some. And this was a big moment because while they were very similar to millennials, they were slightly more conservative in some areas. And we saw that in the past couple of years, Gen Z was actually skewing away from LGBTQIA issues. How is this happening? It is not only, nor solely, but largely Charlie Kirk and his work with Turning Point. And so Turning Point certainly has its issues, but don't. There's literally no reason to burn it to the ground. Unless, of course, makes you famous and rich, you know? So I guess by all means. My issue right now is.
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People are shooting at you. That's obvious.
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Who you're certainly 100.
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But we lost Charlie Kirk. You're thinking about, you know, taking off in the sunset. Who we got left? Who we got left. So Charlie's gone.
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And the summons. Congratulations.
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Okay. We got Candace Owens, too.
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Good, good, good. So you can spin around with your dick in your hand while you. While you sound like a. To the average person. And then Democrats win.
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I mean, but you're taking off.
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Yeah. You know why? Because people are not.
When I get private texts and messages saying, like, oh, yeah, I agree with you, but I would never dare say anything. I'm Like, I'm not. I'm not doing this. You know, my whole life, I have had a disdain for those who demand others work for them. Now, now, now I hold on for a minute, like, I understand. We all work for each other. I'm saying.
I remember when I was younger, I wanted to. I was like, you were in Chicago. I skateboard, but there's nowhere to skate in the winter. So what do we do? What do we do? Well, holy crap, I figured something out. If 10 of my friends come together and put a hundred bucks down every month, we can actually rent a warehouse. And you know what they all said? You do it, and then let me know and I'll think about it. And that's the world. And that's what people do. So when people message me saying, I wouldn't dare speak up against Candace, I'm just like, oh, fuck off, dude. Coward. But to the people that have started speaking out, calling her out, you know, good. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter in the end. It doesn't really matter in the end. She can say whatever. Whatever she wants. She can do whatever whackaloon show she wants. The fact that she put me on her thumbnail today titled, who Benefited from Charlie Kirk's Death. Whether she's retarded, I don't think she is. Or doing it intentionally, it doesn't matter. The message is clear. You speak up against her and she will sic people on you. Is that the. Is that the purpose? I called her out?
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Absolutely. That was the point. The reason she put you on the. On the thumbnail was because you had the audacity to call her out. It was.
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It was.
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And no one else would. And people don't. And so many people don't. Like when Ben Shapiro was on with Megyn Kelly, and Megyn Kelly deferred and then said, well, and demurred and then later came out and said, candace never said that. It's like, you know what, man?
She can say every which way a million times, but never directly say it for plausible deniability, as if we're retarded. I just. It's. What a stupid world to live in. So listen, it's not just about her. She comes up because she, you know, I guess there it is, you know, she put me on her thumbnail. She's. She's a. She's a piece of trash. And we have. We have death threats against us consistently for too long. We don't talk about it now. The problem is the one thing we talked about in October was I think we're one of the few shows that actually invites the public to come. Not like literally anyone in the public, but we probably send out address, location, five times a day to various people who are booking on this show. Well, for that, we are more likely to get doxxed. I don't know how we continue doing a show like this. I don't know how we do it. And that's the conversation we were having earlier. So it's possible the 19th is the last Tim cast IRL. I'm not gonna stop doing content, but the general thought is if I only do a solo VOD show like I used to before we did irl, then there's no other guests. There's undisclosed.
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B
But that's, that's the profession you chose.
C
I.
B
You chose.
C
You worked hard.
B
You became number one. When you're number one in anything, you're going to be a target for, for a whole bunch of people. It is what it is. This is the society we live in.
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Well, you know what the, you know what the issue is? Back in the day when you were at this level of political influence, you could afford security. But the issue now is I would argue that maybe, I don't know, I don't know what number I gave earlier today, but I was like, maybe what? 80% of the content we produce is not seen on our platforms with our advertisers and our members. It's clipped and redistributed through massive networks which all make money off the content we produce. And we can't get that money. So we have the influence that reaches 50 million people and half of them want to murder me. But we don't have the 10 million viewers per night that would afford us the ability to have a secure facility. And you look at Fox News and they have a big skyscraper in New York. They've got security guards. You can't even get in that building. You can't get anywhere near those studios. And the glass is probably bulletproof. That's Fox News with carriage fees and big cable networks and I guess, long standing position in the market with billions of dollars and probably an endowment that generates money. We don't have that.
B
Well, listen, just my advice. I'm from Miami, Florida, and I got doxxed. And. And after I got doxed and I got swatted, I did two things. Number one, I. I moved into a high rise with security. Number two, I got to be good friends with the mayor to make sure something like that didn't happen again. So I. There are options. There are options. Obviously, you're at a whole different level, but listen, if you get a penthouse in some place in Miami, or they say Sunny Isles or someplace in Florida where you have real top notch security like the Porsche Tower, and Sunny is. You cannot get in that building. It's literally the FBI guarding that building.
G
That's a good point.
B
So I would, if I were you. You work too freaking hard to build what you got to give up, change locations, adapt or die. Again, you adapt in this world or you die. And what I'm basically trying to tell you is move to a better location and do this 10 times harder. The people who did say, you, I'm sorry, let's.
C
Nah, you just. You deserve it because I went off too. You know what I mean? We're having fun, right? Let me pull this up from Benny Johnson. And it's not just about me. Benny Johnson tweets, this man showed up at my home where my wife and children live. He was ranting about me and went door to door in my neighborhood trying to find me, terrifying my neighbors. We believe he was armed and fled before the cops arrived. He then explicitly and publicly threatened the lives of Matt Walsh and his wife and children. He recently showed up at Cat Turds home ranting and raving about me and Matt Walsh and Laura Loomer. Thank you to the FBI and DOJ for investigating these threats and swiftly arresting stalker Andrew Iyer. He was clearly spiraling in a very dangerous way. I don't want to speak publicly, publicly about this kind of stuff because it involves my family and their security. I'm sick over it, but I have an obligation to amplify this case as if it's. If it is one of multiple ongoing criminal prosecutions for threats against my family. Over the past year, I've watched my president get shot in the head and my friend get assassinated. Things are spiraling wildly out of control. There are real world consequences for psychotic rhetoric and lies amplified online. Enough. If you are threatening my family, expect me to fight back with full force. There is nothing I wouldn't do to protect my family. I would gladly die for them. This is good versus evil, darkness versus light. The battle is spiritual. With Christ, we will win. And this man was arrested for. You can see here, threatening Matt Walsh's family, stalking Laura Loomer. Loomer believes that she was the next target, trying to track down Benny Johnson. And this is in Tampa, Florida, of all places. You know, I think next year is going to get substantially worse, and we do have to adapt. We do have to change what we're doing here. And so right now, I don't know how we do it quickly is the issue.
We have one week left in this studio for the year, and then we're doing a week in Vegas, which is very secure, and I'm very confident about that because it ain't just our security we're going to have. There's a lot of security that we've been working with. And then the 19th, we go on the Christmas hiatus. It's pretty long this year because I think Christmas is a Wednesday.
E
Yep.
C
And then New Year's is a Wednesday, too. So there's literally no way around it. When we come back on the 5th, we will be in Florida and beautiful state. Beautiful state. And we will be doing the show down there as we attempt to figure out how we navigate this. And, you know, the mistake I think we all make, I think we make is we should have done this three months ago. The moment they killed Charlie. We should have immediately had an emergency meeting and said, we're changing how we do everything. It should not have come. It should not have come down to a shooting to make us start freaking out and being like, okay, now we're on. Not now we're on, you know, highest, highest alert. So it's not just here, this. Benny Johnson posted this the same day we posted about the shooting. And I do believe the arrest was actually made. This was. I believe it was mid November. So they were sitting on this. Probably they don't want to say anything for security reasons. The more we talk about it, the more we potentially put at risk our current. Our current situation. So, you know, with one, one week left here, we just ramped up security to a greater degree. And then we're like, we're going to Vegas, we're on hiatus, we're not coming back. I don't Know how we do it. You make a great point, Penthouse. It's a really good idea.
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If you want, I'll introduce you to the mayor of Sunny Isles. That's probably the most prestigious city in Miami. That's where I live. The suburb can get you to the people in the Porsche tower. Billionaires live there. Go visit them all the time. Be more than happy to give you some introductions. You listen, bro, I don't know that.
C
We have that money.
B
I don't, I don't know you well enough. I just met you. But you work too damn hard to get where you are to quit because some fucking cowards took some shots at you, bro. You work too damn hard to get in the position to just quit, my friend. And again, I don't know you.
C
But it's not just quitting.
B
I mean, you're letting them win. You're letting them win.
C
No, the idea is, the way I look at it, it's like I, I, I could be wrong. I don't track every single show, but, well, there's a lot of shows with guests. We do. Like, the function of this show is an in person sit down every day. And, you know, a couple years ago, it's really funny. One prominent leftist we invited on cased our property before knocking on the door. Yeah, I'm not gonna say what it was. They, they showed up quietly, got out of their car and then walked all the way around the perimeter checking for something, I don't know. And then came to the door and knocked. And we were like, oh, hey, what's going on? And then our security was like, he was stalking the property. He was like, we don't know if he was filming or what was he doing. And we were like, that's weird. That's how crazy things have gotten. So the idea right now is we can't do a show that invites people out every single day. We can't do it. We like, you know, look, I get it. The boonies. Maybe it was stupid to even consider having skate events. There was a lot of hype and everyone was really excited for it. We canceled it. We can't do it. And so now the idea is any kind of public location that's a studio has to be in some kind of compound with guards. And it can't just be us. Like, the way this works is if there's like 15 companies in one corporate complex. Like you were mentioning like a skyscraper penthouse or something like that. Or I was mentioning Fox News. You're mentioning penthouses, a structure that has distributed resources for prominent security, making it very difficult to reach those levels. A pen is actually a really great idea.
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You need four levels of security. First level of security, when someone goes into the building, they check in, they have to give their ID to get in the building, they get the gate open. Second level security, they have to get in the front desk, they have to call you. There's no numbers on the elevator, they have to push you up themselves. And that's the third level of security. You have the people up there. So you literally have three levels of security. Someone has to get through and they're not listening. Listen, I, I get death threats all the time too. Probably not at any level you do, but I'm, I'm pretty prominent in my space and they don't like me because most of the people in my space are liberals and leftists and I'm the only right winger in there who gets any publicity and stuff like that. You need to take care of yourself and your family. Number one, you have to go into the penthouse. That is the only thing at this point that could have a bridge between you and everyone else. Because much of those costs, I mean, and where I'm talking about about 20, 30 racks a month.
C
20, 30, Rex.
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Thousand.
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Thousand.
C
Ah, what I mean, like to buy.
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10 mil, it's worth it.
I mean, that's where I live, man.
C
Look where you wake up every day.
B
And you see the ocean, you see the beach. I mean, I mean, listen, listen.
C
I don't, I don't.
B
Listen, listen, you have this place around here. I'm sure it's cool for somebody, they like to go hunting and all this stuff. But when you wake up every day and you see that ocean, it calms you down a little bit. All this stuff that's going on in your life. You see that ocean, you hear those breezes coming through your balance, mountain man. It will count.
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Nah, I'm not a water brother. Have you noticed the hat that I wear? I'm not, I'm not a Florida kind of guy, you know, I'm a, I'm a mountain guy. I like, I like the mountains.
B
I'll go on vacation back here. But this is, this is.
C
But, but you make a good point. This is true.
B
There's no other place you can have penthouses with that level of security unless you're in Miami or, you know, you don't want to go to homosexual LA and stuff like that. So that's, that's all you have.
D
You need an office in Fox News's building in Manhattan.
C
Elad Was like, have you considered selling the Fox News stop.
D
You had to make that public.
C
He just made the press go up.
D
No, I mean, I know they have very secure facilities in Washington, D.C. and in New York City. We're a small company here. The security costs are, you know, there's a huge barrier to entry. But like, again, we're in this political climate of danger. People are threatening one another. Also, one of the reasons Marjorie Taylor Greene allegedly resigned was because of the death threats of violence against her.
C
There was that dude in Maine who resigned. Yeah, the Democrat guy. I don't, I don't. Or I'm sorry, he's announced his retirement. I don't know if he's actually resigned just yet, but yeah. Marjorie Taylor Greene saying it's getting crazy behind the scenes. It's not my place to speak for anybody. There are a lot of people in independent media. Right. Leaning media there, talking about quitting. Quitting or going into hiding. I think, I think this is publicly known. Like Tucker moved to the middle of nowhere.
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Yeah.
C
Everybody knew that. Long time. Because he lived.
G
He's buying a house in Qatar or he's.
C
Did he really?
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Yeah, yesterday.
C
I think he's leaving the country.
G
He didn't say he was leaving, but he said he was going to purchase property in Qatar.
C
You know, I've been looking at El Salvador.
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I hear it's great.
C
Yeah. Coin beach, baby. No, I'm not, I'm not.
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I think they'd like to have you.
B
In Israel, get a last security there for sure.
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Yeah, I hear a lot. Can sponsor you.
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Yeah.
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We could get you a visa.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Look, I mean, whatever steps that you need to take to guarantee security, obviously that's, you know, primary. You've got wife and kid, you know, and, and.
C
Let me, let me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Just finish. I was going to say something.
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Well, just this kind of. You can't, you can't live under this kind of threat all the time. And again, the point was to scare you, obviously, because, you know, I mean, thankfully, that's all that it was. You know, the person that carried this out, they didn't have the intent of actually hitting someone. If they did, they would have gone about it totally different. But this was in, in order to scare you. This was to do exactly what's going on. To have, you know, have a bunch of chaos at the studio, have a bunch of chaos on the show and what's next. Exactly.
C
I mean, what's next is the actual shooting.
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Yeah.
C
So it doesn't. It doesn't matter if they're like, I hope this scares Tim. It's like, yes, because we know no matter what happens, the next thing is the actual shot.
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Because the. Someone else will be like, oh, you know, I can do it better. They'll try and one up and stuff.
C
I want to. I want to address the. The. This is. What is that? Is that real?
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The.
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Really. What is that really? Hydro. You changed your name, Tim. Why didn't you act like this when you had a bullet in your kitchen? I'm not saying you're lying, but we can use more evidence of a crime because the bullet in my kitchen was from my guy. My guy shot the gun. I like West Virginia. We had three people break onto the property. This was just before we were moving in. And our.
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Our.
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Our security guy, our guy here, shot at them, putting a bullet in the cupboard island in one of the buildings. And they. I this. What's. The guy jumped out the window, shattered it. And they got in the car. I guess two guys ran out the back. One guy jumped through the window, breaking it. And then the window was broken and we had to get replaced. And then they sped off. So we don't know what that was. But this was before we officially moved into.
Into the. Into the. The new studio. I tweeted a photo of that bullet hole and said our guy fired a shot. So, you know, now people are taking only one of the tweets out of the series and then making it seem like we got shot then because they're. They're manipulating you. Because people are stupid. They fall for it.
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You gotta be used to people taking things outta context by now.
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Oh, yeah, of course.
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Yeah. So I gotta say, the incentives, Tim, almost don't seem like they're there for you. I mean, I deeply appreciate the work that you do and I. A lot of other people in the media space think you're an invaluable asset in the media space for people who actually seek truth and don't just pretend to. But like, from your perspective, you are sacrificing so much. You have a wife and daughter, and I don't think it's breaking news to anybody that they're probably scared shitless as well. And you know, there are serious threats to your life. This isn't the first time that you've been swatted or there's been an attack against you. And you have every position and right to just say effort. I'm. I'm a multimillionaire. I don't need to work another day in My life. I have a hundred vans and I have 100 beaches that I could go drive by to. And Tim, you literally don't have to do this at all. And, you know, it kind of begs the question, what continues to motivate you because you're still.
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The day you quit is the day that a lot starts. A lot cast irl.
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Is that what.
C
Well, actually, I'm now going to announce that Elad will be taking the show over.
D
Damn. That's what that was going to be. Candace Owens assumption and conspiracy the whole time. If anything ever happens to you, I don't mean this about myself, but why don't you think we know getting some of the blame.
C
I chat up Israel and see how much, you know, they're willing to put down and be like, hey, yo, Israel, I could do this show. Just got to pay up. And Tim will exit. You know what I mean?
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You know, I'm surprised that she, Candace hasn't accused you of taking money from Israel already for. Actually, I think she might have, but.
C
I don't know if you had a show, if it was anyone else who called her out, she'd be putting their face on her thumbnails. Yeah, it's like, that's the point. Everyone's terrified of her. Granted, more people have started coming out and calling her out, which I'm glad they are. But I just, I think people understand.
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That that is actually, Tim, the future of the Republican Party. People like Candace Owens, people like Tucker Carlson, who again, make excuses for people like Candace Owens. And then I get, and I think people like Megyn Kelly, too, who probably know better but are going to shut their mouth because they're scared of, you know, getting the wrath of Candace Owens puts on. Put on them. They're cowards. People like Megyn Kelly, I've watched do Literal news, legitimate news for a long time. She should know better. She, she's more concerned about audience capture. She's more worried about people watching her show and not getting on the bad side of Candace Owens. And it's pathetic, frankly. And there's a lot of people like that in the media space who do know better but are just scared.
C
You know, there are scary people out there. There are very scary personalities. Milo is a scary guy. Milo knows what you did. I'm not joking. There are a lot of people out there. And I, I'm actually surprised. And, and I've, I've talked about this. I think Milo literally talked about this. You know, a lot of people canceled him. And, you know, I think this I Think he was talking about this? I think he talked about it on the show. When he was working with ea, he was like, there's a lot of people that destroyed his career. And he, behind the scenes with nothing else to do, dug up dirt on everybody. And there are scary people.
G
He's like Rorschach.
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I think he's fucking disgusting. He's not driven by truth. He's driven by personal vendettas. And he's like, frankly, he's no asset to right wing movement. He's all about just himself. His values are disgusting. He's a disgusting person. He has no issue to lie, steal and cheat to help himself. If we're dealing with people like that solely in the movement, I think we deserve to lose.
B
I, I consider Milo the Roger Stone of the influencer world.
G
What does that mean?
B
He's a fixer.
C
Elaborate.
B
If people need to find stuff out or dig up information, that. That's what he does. Dude. And let me tell you something.
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And it won't matter if it's. Milo will just make up.
B
Listen, listen, listen.
C
I don't know.
B
I'm not talking about what he makes up, what he doesn't. I will tell you this. Milo has a network. I don't want to go too much into it, but a lot of people are scared of him. I'll just say that.
D
Yeah. Because he's a charlatan. There are many charlatans on the right. There's a handful. There's Ian Carl Carroll, There's. There's Milo Yiannopoulos, there's Candace Owens. All of these are charlatans who are willing and happy to lie to you to advance whatever cause they think they're advancing whatever they think is right.
C
I wouldn't describe Milo that way.
D
I think he's very Machiavellian. He's willing to lie.
C
Childhood's a different word.
E
Yeah.
C
So if, if you, if you want to say that, you know, Milo is cunning and subversive and Machiavellian and unjust.
D
Worthy.
C
The way I describe trustworthy for a lot of people in politics is, you know, it's, you can trust the scorpion to sting the frog.
D
Right. So you could trust that Milo will lie to you. Yes. And manipulate you.
C
I, I give Milo an 80, 20.
Whereas a lot of people just get a straight, you know, if they're a straight shooter, they're a straight shooter. What I basically mean by that is there's a degree to which I don't necessarily trust Milo. I don't, you know, but I largely do. I don't think he acts appropriately, however, and I don't think he's right about everything. And I do believe that he is.
D
He. He.
C
He's very, very good at subversive. The right word.
D
He's willing to slander whoever because of his past grievances. I believe he didn't. He called Charlie Kirk gay just because he thought that Kirk gatekeeped him out of the movement. Like, he's willing to say whatever about Erica Kirk. He's willing to back up whatever Dennis Owens says now only because he has this personal vendetta from the past. He doesn't care about burning it down. He cares about his foot.
C
Let's put it like this. I find that to be a very, very plausible explanation for his views. As George Santos even pointed out that Milo was slandering people with. Involved. Involved with Turning Point, largely siding with Candace because he is. He is personally, I guess, offended by what Charlie Kirk said about him. So he, he's biased. So, yeah, some of the stuff he.
B
Said said here on Friday was true. I'm not going to elaborate.
C
What.
B
But some of it.
D
Does it matter if. Does it matter.
B
I don't want to elaborate.
D
Does it matter if the other half of what he said isn't true, though?
B
I mean, listen, it's just like the government. You got to read between the lines. They're going to tell you the truth. Got to read between the lines.
D
You know what? I think that's some bullshit, though, because I don't try to deceive people. Like, I may have politics that I believe in, but I'm not willing to lie, cheat, steal and manipulate to try to advance those causes. Maybe I'm not Machiavellian enough. Maybe that's why I don't have 150,000 live viewers like Candace Owens does. Maybe that's what you need to do in the space. Maybe politics is just as dirty as everybody makes it out to be. Maybe you need to imply that people are involved in things that they aren't involved in to gain a following. Maybe, maybe it's okay to, you know, risk putting other people at violence's risk to, you know, advance your narrative. It's crazy. Who stands to gain from Charlie Kirk being killed? Well, it seems as though Candace Owens has benefited the most off of Charlie Kirk's death. Not Tim Pool, not Andrew Colvitt, not erica Kirk, not J.D. vance. It seems Candace Owens really benefited the most out of this. But just because it seems fascinating, you know, that we're not really looking into this, right? Because you know, just from presumptive reasoning, she stood to gain. Right. Look at all this circumstantial evidence, man. She's benefiting so much of this.
C
She had to be involved in lawyers that work in a federal building. She. She gets ousted from Turning Point, she immediately seeks to burn Turning Point down. I would. I would argue that I don't play the games that she does. But following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, she had every reason to destroy Turning Point usa. And I don't think she's actually trying to investigate Charlie's death. I think she's saying, now's my opportunity that Charlie's gone to burn down TP usa.
B
Maybe so, Maybe so. But listen, when Charlie died, and again, that was a tragic event. I think they took out what is possibly a future American president.
C
Yeah.
B
And I think. I think he would have been a future American president. The future. So they took a future American president for us. But when he died, you had two people going after his audience. Kenneth Owens and Nick Fuentes. They. Nick even moved a little bit more to start becoming a little bit more moderate to get that audience. So just because Candace won that battle and, you know, took more of Charlie Kirk's audience than, you know, Nick Fuentes did, doesn't necessarily mean that.
D
Dude, I agree. I'm being facetious. No, I. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm making that argument because I'm mocking Candace Owens because that's how she makes her arguments, only based off circumstantial evidence. So I agree with you. I'm. I'm mocking her.
B
Gotcha.
D
Tim, I did want to ask, though, Candace Owens did put a thumbnail up. It's. It says the. The billion dollar question on it, and it says, who stood to benefit from Charlie Kirk's assassination. It's. You're put on there and then FBI and Cash. But to me and Patel, what do you think she's trying to achieve by having you on her thumbnail with the quote, who stood?
C
Doesn't matter what I think she wants to achieve. What will the outcome be? What do you think?
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I think that Candace owens is born 1989. The year the Snake in 2005 is the year the snake. And I think that's why she's number one right now, because she's.
C
Anyway, the question I asked was. He said, why do I think that she put me on her thumbnail today with a title of who? The Billion Dollar question. Who stands to gain? It's Cash Patel, and it's me. I said, her intention doesn't matter the outcome of the action does. And what do you think the outcome will be of her putting me in cash on this thumbnail to get a.
B
Response out of you?
C
Just that. That's it.
B
I mean, listen, you're a titan. You're a titan in this industry. And she's getting there too. So you guys talking about each other is going to get.
C
Always been bigger than me, Dude, I. I don't.
D
Dude, she's implying that Tim Pool had something to do with this.
C
Yeah, that's what she has more than double mine.
B
I mean, if you count out all your channels together, it's a little different.
C
Oh yeah, but come on, those are overlapping subscribers. She's always had a bigger show. She's always gotten.
D
She had150,000 live viewers today.
C
Popular.
D
I think it's very clear what she was trying to do here. She was trying. Tim had something to do with this because circumstantially.
C
But this doesn't matter. The question is, what will the outcome of that be?
E
She's trying to rile up her audience. People will be mad at you. They'll be pointing the finger and saying, Candace thinks that it was Tim and so we should hate Tim Pool.
C
And then what? What does that result?
D
Violence. Violence towards Tim Pool. That is her goal. That's what I believe her goal here is with this thumbnail. Yes, wholeheartedly.
C
Will the outcome of her making that be the case?
D
I think she has a large audience of complete fucking retards. So. Of hundreds of thousands of complete fucking retards. Millions. Millions of retards. Well, that's democracy, baby. I don't know. It's a scary thought. Yeah.
C
And I don't think that she is the future of the Republican Party. It is interesting. Is it true that Tucker's buying a house in Doha?
D
Doha, Yeah. I don't only think this is a message to you, Tim. I think this is a message to everybody. Everybody else in the movement. Don't step out of fucking line. You challenge me, I'll take on Tim Poole. I'll take on any of you guys. If you're willing to call me out on what you think is bullshit. I don't give a shit. Is what I think her message.
C
You know, these people, these people, they have tried to control me for so long and they just have never been able to do it. When we had Milo went on Friday, it was funny because I pointed like there are a lot of people that have come to me and said, tim, we will make you very rich. We Just need guardrails. They don't say it like that. They're like, let us handle all the posting scheduling for you and we'll give you your stories. It'll be really easy. You don't got to worry about it. You'll end up making way more money. We can get you subject matter that will hit better and trend tracking. And. And then I said, I have this really funny story where I said, what if I want to do.
I don't want to conflate these stories and imply one person said something when they didn't say something. So I'll clarify. There have been. There's been a general conversation around this from various podcast networks and big companies. And when I say something like, yes, but you know, I just called Candace. Someone's a. And they'd be like, well, you can't do that. You can't say that. That's, that's, that's, that's a bridge too far. You're going to lose sponsors, lose advertisers. And I was like, I don't want to do it. Then, like, maybe sometimes I just feel like saying it. I've got a script and then I slam the table.
D
You know, I think your audience get.
C
A little out of hand, I guess.
D
That you don't compromise your authenticity.
B
Once you get a couple M's, you start, you know, doing mills. Once you get a couple million, about eight figures, nine figures, you start getting a little bit more. No one's gonna tell me what the this.
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Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree.
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Zoe. This thing weighs a ton.
C
Drew Ski, lift with your legs, man.
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I'm not.
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Right, Santa, you know my elf, Drew Ski here, He handles the nice list.
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I. He. He said, it's been. I've told this very million times, but it's like it was something to the effect of.
I said something like, if there is a story that would offend our audience, are you saying we will not cover it? And he says, yeah, I think that's fair.
D
Yeah, that's garbage.
C
That was. That was. That was the ABC News Univision joint venture. And then I was like, nah. And then they said, okay, contractors up. And they were like, thank you and have a nice day.
D
They.
C
They actually sent me 40 grand. I love this story. So I was beefing with them, and it wasn't like that I was screaming in their faces or anything like that. I was saying like, hey, guys, do you see how you made this, like, trans kids thing? One of the first videos they did, it got a bunch of views. And I was like, that's kind of weird. You want to know what gets tons of views? This other thing. And then we did this campaign for them where we took an existing piece of content they already had. It was called Open Mic Massacre, where it mocked political correctness. And I said, we're going to boost this on social media. We're going to share it.
B
That's literally all we're going to do.
C
We're going to share it on social media. We're going to post it in forums. And we're like, guys, check this out. It's really great. And we did. And it got half a million views and they gained 2,000 subs overnight. And then the political ideologues got really mad and they were like, tim Pool's a white supremacist or something like that. And then I was like, because I took content you made and promoted. Well, you know, it opposed political correctness. And then they regretted doing it. It was really funny. And so I'm not playing ball. They had a black and brown forum is what it's called, where they had presidential candidates come and they Were going to have their top talent interview these presidential candidates. I'm one of their senior correspondents, highly paid, well respected. And they contracted a black man from New York instead of me. Now I don't know. This guy is. By all means, he's a great talent. I don't want to Reynose parade or anything. Seems like a nice guy. However, they had their top talent and then one guy they contracted. So I went to the president. I was like, I was like, you know, I'm not trying to be a dick and like, you know, cause any issues or anything, but why did you guys bring in a contractor instead of having me? I'm one of your senior correspondents. And they said, well, you look too white. And then I was like, I'm second.
B
That's what they actually said.
C
Yes. And I said, I'm second generation, mixed race. And he goes, come on, man. And then I was like, whatever, bro. So we were beefing quite a bit. And then I remember I got a phone call, I got an email and they were like, tim, we need to talk with you. And this was, I was like, I think it was, what was it, a two year contract. They wanted a three year one. It's a two year contract. And I should have done the three year because then they would have paid me out when they went defunct. I would have got a lot more money. So it was like a year and a year and a quarter, maybe a year and a half. I get this email and so I get a phone call thinking like, oh, they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna ask till I close out my contract, I bet. I swear. And this guy calls me and he's just like. So I know that there's been issues and.
We'Ve been trying to work through them and I, I respect your position on these things. And I'm thinking, here we go, here we go. And he goes. So I just wanted to let you know that things been going pretty good. And we have a bonus for you. It's $40,000. You'll see it in your bank account probably in a couple days. We don't want you to be alarmed, so thank you for the, the hard work. And I was like, what? Okay. And a bonus. The company wasn't even making money. And then sure enough, I took my amount. 40. It was, it was like after taxes, like 27 or something. I'm like, they just gave me 20 grand. I think that was them being like, come on, Tim, the money's good. And then, you know, I don't I didn't do anything. So come, come August, they were just like, I got the phone call again and they're like, we're calling to let you know that we will not be renewing your contract. We appreciate everything. Thank you and have a nice day. And I says, likewise. Click.
B
After they gave you a bonus, they.
C
Let you go like four months later or something.
B
Change of management?
C
No, I think the money was fall in line and it'll. It'll be good. And when they gave me the money and I still didn't like, I'm not doing it. I'm not making the weird woke garbage. Like, one of the things I talked about at that company is when the Ghost in the Shell movie came out, they were having an editorial meeting and they were like, this is whitewashing. They're having Scarlett Johansson play a Japanese woman. That's racist. And I said, yeah, maybe it is weird to choose Scarlett Johansson. However, I'm a big Ghost in the. A Ghost in the Shell fan. And one of the themes of the show is how you can change your body, like prosthetic bodies. So it's not really the message in a negative sense. It's more of like a, you can be any person you want. In fact, in Ghost in the Shell standalone complex, the major is actually asked, why do you prefer female model bodies? And they were like, we're going to go with the racism on this one. And I was like, okay, like, whatever. They just wanted to find racism everywhere, you know. So here we are, I guess I genuinely believe that the right coalition is outside of the machine. In the unit party. I think the.
Neoliberal, the liberal economic order, the machine state, all of that stuff is still the corporate press. I think for a while it looked really good for Trump and his administration, but now it's starting to shift. With the death of Charlie Kirk, the most effective political assassination probably of our lifetimes, maybe in our history.
The left has faced no serious repercussions.
E
Yeah.
C
The many on the right are now rallying against the victims of the assassination. Could there be a better outcome for the left? Now you can make the argument the left didn't kill Charlie. Whatever. They celebrated his death. AOC went on the House floor and said he was a bad person. No one should celebrate.
And instead of saying, guys, we have a political violence problem and it's coming from the left, the conversation on the right half of it at least, is turning point is the murderer. Like, what? They're the victims. Their organization is the victim in this. So I look what's going on? And it screams op that, that so many people are coming out and claiming that Turning Point are the perpetrators of the crime against themselves. Well, if your goal was to destroy the right coalition, you'd take out Charlie Kirk and you destroy his organization. So I look at it like this. I don't care about the intent. That's a meaningless question. I can't read minds. The question is, what is the outcome? So you can complain that someone intends to do something and call them evil, fine. That was always allowed to. But if we're talking about building a future and winning midterm elections and winning presidential elections and making this country better and securing our border and fixing our grocery price problem, which Trump has not been good on, if we're going to do all of that, we need to have a. We need, we need to discuss what will the outcome be if this action is taken and the assassination of Charlie Kirk has destroyed the right coalition. And the actions of Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, and others is now destroying what's left of what Charlie built. They're erasing what Charlie built that helped win Donald Trump elections. Really? I don't care about what they claim. I don't care about what Candace says her motivation is. I can't read minds. I can only look at the work her people, like Ian Carroll, these other, smaller podcasters do and say the only outcome of their action will be to destroy Turning Point, which helps Donald Trump and the Republicans win. The outcome will then be Democrats winning the midterms. And what did Candace say? Do you remember what you said about this quote, we don't care about your midterms. Agreed. So when the Democrats win and they start locking up more lawyers and media personalities, and like Steve Bannon said, he'll be going to prison, then we can say, thank you, Candace Owens, for helping the Democrats win. And if you're a Democrat, you'll say yes. I mean, look at the. You know, I recommend you guys go to the comment section of the Young Turks. Their audience is. The audience is indistinguishable. I, I, Yeah, they're all, they're all big Candace fans.
B
Yeah.
D
And Marjorie Taylor Greene fans, though.
B
I mean, we, we live in that era where the far left and the far right agree on one thing, their hate for Israel. I mean, that, that's, that's the era we live in right now.
D
Yeah. I don't want to make this.
B
I'm just telling you what it is.
D
But many times a lot of Candace's beef seems like a proxy for Israel. And I can't help but feel like her and Ben Shapiro had a falling out. And politics is deeply, deeply personal for 90 of the people involved. And she's just going scorched, scorched earth as a result of that. As a result of the deal that fell through between them.
G
There is that phenomena where you want to help someone, but they don't want your help, but you try and give it to them anyway, and it ends up hurting them. And I think that's what Candace is doing to Turning Point.
D
I don't think she. It's impossible to say what's in her head, but it doesn't seem. Her actions don't seem to show.
E
Why don't you expand on how would.
C
You figure this is.
E
Could be helping? Or how would you think that this is helping Turning Point?
C
I.
G
Potentially. She thinks that there was more to the assassination and that she want. Because Turning Point can't do it. They can't say anything about it because they're kind of in it.
C
Is that why she said people should pull their donations from Turning Point?
G
No.
C
Will that help them? No, that won't. That won't help them. Oh, that's a strange thing to do if you're trying to help Turning Point.
G
Yeah, maybe. Maybe I'm wrong.
C
Yeah, maybe.
G
She started off with some inkling of, I want to help these people. She said, if Erica asked me to stop, I'm going to stop.
D
And apparently now what she's saying about Erica is crazy. She just had an episode titled, It Was Erica who Called for TP USA to uninvite me.
G
If Erica asks her to stop, Erica's gonna look like she's trying to come up.
D
If she asks Eric, if Erica asks her to stop, she'll just blame that. She'll say, someone's controlling Erica. That's what I said. Yeah.
G
It'll look like Erica's trying to cover it up. If she asked Candace to stop, so.
D
She can't tell her to stop, so she's stuck. I don't.
C
I don't. I don't think that's true at all. I think Erica absolutely should reach out to Candace.
B
Yeah.
C
It may be too late at this point, Ian.
E
I think we can put that. That theory to bed. I don't think that she's actually trying to help anyone.
G
You might. You might. I don't know. Just like no one knows her intention but her.
B
But maybe. You know, I think one of the.
D
Most unfortunate things about this is that there's a ton of things. But one of the things that comes to mind is that like the part of like this new media and independent media, the promise of the independent media was that we were going to cover stories unbiasedly and we were going to do it with the conviction and then we're going to get to the bottom of stories that the mainstream media didn't want to do. But what I see more often than not coming out of independent media is just like unconfirmed rumor and hearsay.
C
Well, more so, yeah. Like in recent history, it's a lot of just I love men. You go, I gotta, I gotta shout out Nick Fuentes, of all people. He had such a great. It was like an 8 minute video went viral where he was talking about what's currently going on. And he was like, Ian Carroll, he's like, Ian Carroll tweeted at Charlie Kirk on September 7th, you work for the Jews that are destroying America. Four days later he said he was sure that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. What happened in those four days, Ian? And I was like, it's a great point. What happened in those four days? There was another line, maybe Ian got the call.
D
There's another line where he, where he goes in regards to Candace Owens where he was just saying like, about Charlie Kirk, like the most pro Israel guy, right? Candace Owens, like Israel allegedly killed him. This is the literal most pro Israel guy that the right wing, right wing currently had to offer, especially given his age. He was supposed to like bridge the divide between Gen Z, you know, not being the most pro Israel generation. And then they kill. Would allegedly kill Charlie Kirk. Like I can't imagine a dumber person for Israel to go after. But Nick's making, she's making Nick look moderate. Candace Owens maybe is that fascinating thing.
C
Is that, that's like the Dark Knight thing where she's, she's playing the villain.
D
Because normalized Fuentes, he's taking the fall for it.
G
No, you mentioned independent media. There's a big difference between an independent journalist and an independent guy that talks about his feelings. And like it's. Sometimes you'll do 10 hours of research and post your thing and it'll get no money. And then the next day you'll post your emotions about something you read and it'll get 10 times the income. You're like, why am I spending eight hours actually researching when I can make 50 times the amount of money just spouting my shit?
C
Because it's actually this simple. I was, we talked about a couple of weeks ago the reading level, reading comprehension of the American population is around like seventh grade. And that means if you. You're. If you're using obscure words.
The average person can't understand what you're saying. If your show. You know what I actually think about how we started this show? We had the Ivan's little stream deck. We had soundboard, and I could press. Press a button, and. And Greta Tuneborough. Greta Thuneberg would go, how dare you. How dare you. How dare you. And then I had Eric Swalwell go cheat an election. Cheat an election. And Adam wore Hulk hands. And it was very much like it was news, but it was.
It was goofy. Yeah. Because we were originally intending the show to be a goof off session. Like, the first few episodes were about, like, skinwalker ranch, UFOs and just whatever. And then, I guess because of COVID things started turned more political in every facet. So the conversation went around, what are we doing in government? Because of the lockdowns and things like that, everyone was interested. And so those are the subjects that we started pulling up. But it was literally just, you know, like a soundboard with goofy noises.
G
And it was basically what we were doing after dinner. Like hanging out, playing cards, but with the camera on.
C
Exactly. We'd sit down, and then we'd just goof off, and then we'd go play magic or something. And then the show started to become a bit more serious as we got into politics. Got bigger guests, the table got bigger, and then the show became very serious.
B
And Sounds like a natural transition to me.
C
You know what's interesting is it could have been the COVID lockdowns. Everybody was watching podcasts. It could have been that the format we had of Hulk hands and soundboards is a lot more fun. I kind of think that it is, but it wasn't really what I did, you know, or what I do. The point ultimately is, Ian, if you make your show for a third grade reading level, you will get way more viewers. In fact, I think this is true of music. Phil, have you read this? Oh, yeah. The songs that have a third grade reading level, like, all the biggest songs tend to have, like, a third grade reading level.
E
Our guitar player Mike is notorious for. Someone shows him a riff. Used to be Ollie would show him a riff very technically. Mike would just be like, well, yeah, but you should play it the dumb way.
C
You know, play it.
E
Play it the dumb way. You know, let kids bob their head.
G
Sing a complicated word, sing the syllables. So it's just a bunch of sounds that people can understand.
C
Hey, you.
G
You know, whatever.
C
Hey, you.
G
Instead of.
C
This is why, like, A lot of the top songs lyrics are lowest common denominator. More people, smart people don't mind a song that's just like drum and bass, you know what I mean? But if you make a song that's intentionally smart with like crazy lyrics, you're gonna get very few people. I always thought this show is pretty.
G
High brow for like a podcast.
C
Except when I crash out and start screaming and slamming on the table. Prank.
G
Exactly.
B
I thought you just Cliff.
D
Those are my favorite episodes.
G
But we'll pull up like the darkest liberal economic order, brics alliance geopolitical nightmare scenarios and have pretty intelligent conversations about it generally. And it does bring people up, but it doesn't discount what you're saying about least common denominator slop.
C
So this is where we announced that going forward after this year, we're bringing the soundboard back. We're going to play more, more clips of Eric Swalwell farting and the how dare you. Because even though it's like 10 years old at this point. Still funny.
E
Yeah, it's going to, it's going to be more reminiscent of like the early morning drive time. Yeah, with the wacky noises.
C
Yeah, yeah. And we'll get one of those. What are those things where you spin and it clicks like.
E
I don't know what's called those?
C
Cow bell.
G
Okay. Bring some music back. We used to play music on Fridays. That was fun. Friday night after the show at 9:30 we go to music session instead of super chats. What a light hearted event that was, man. There's still recordings of it on YouTube.
B
You can look them up where they are.
C
Well, I mean we could. We, we, we like. The only reason we haven't done musical guests is because no one's done musical guests.
B
We live in the nation and when most people don't even know what the petrodollar system is. So I mean, come on, bro.
C
Like they're the Federal Reserve.
B
I mean, come on.
G
I thought about what, what you'd be doing if you were alone. I. Last few days I've been like. And how.
C
I guess like a magic the Gathering channel where I open booster packs.
G
Like it's, it's fun to me like this to talk about.
C
He wants to open, he wants to start a channel. I don't want to give away the name because he likes the name so much. I don't want to say it. Someone will steal it.
E
Very good.
G
But like geopolitics, it's kind of fun to know what's going on in the world and maybe funds the wrong word, but it's important. And I think a lot. Millions of people identify with that. Like, if we were just goofing off all the time. The real important. Because there's a difference between being famous and being powerful. But this is how many people know who you are. Powerful is how many people are listening to you.
B
But most of the powerful people don't. People don't know who they are. That's the difference.
G
But, Ian, it ripples out to the.
C
If we. If we change the format to just doing fart jokes, the deep state won't want to kill me anymore. You know, so there's a great subversive tactic to just talk about fart jokes.
G
And then plan, like, the next 30 years of.
C
I mean, there's a lot of Taylor Swift news all the time. You know, a Blake Lively scandal still going on. We could talk about that.
E
That's still going on.
C
Yeah. I saw something on Instagram.
E
Oh, boy.
B
Yeah.
C
Did you guys hear about that show they launched this year called Dying for Sex?
B
No.
C
What is it? It makes me terrified of women. Just hide from them. There's a clip for you.
B
How do we do? Anyone?
D
Brother?
C
It's a. It's a show about a woman who finds out she's got terminal cancer, so she leaves her husband to go have sex with. With 200 men.
B
Oh, that's. That's real. I saw that. Yeah, I saw that. That's disgusting. My God, man.
D
Do it before she died. Yes.
C
Oh, she went around just banging a bunch of dudes, I guess. I don't know. And I'm just like, man, that poor guy. Could you imagine? Like, your wife is like, I'm gonna die, so I'm gonna leave you. Go beg him. Be like, that's the worst thing I've ever heard.
D
And by the way, wish to get.
B
By the state of society right now, where a woman who has a few months left to live, doesn't want to spend it with her husband, doesn't want to spend it with her family. She just wants to around. It's disgusting.
E
Feminism is cancer.
D
Spoke to what she always wanted to do.
G
Like, drama crap is another poison pill. Like, talking about what they're talking about.
C
Is like, God, can we just make.
G
Something new that other people start talking about?
D
To be fair, I don't think that most women would be interested in something like that. Is that a crazy thought?
B
Well, I'm from Miami, so, you know.
D
You know, they're different.
B
Yeah. Definitely are.
C
What?
Think about the kind of shows that women watch that you can See, the data on it's not the function of govern is really, really funny. Like feminism is the stupidest thing ever. Yeah, there's a clip for you. All the feminists are going to get mad. It's. It's just so stupid because you look at media, the media landscape and shows like this are 80% guys. Like, our audience is literally. It's like eight. It's like, it's like 78% man and like 21 point something women. And then unknown is like a tiny number. You go and look at the shows that women watch and it's murder. That's freaky stories about women leaving their husbands to go bang a bunch of dudes married to strangers. You guys ever see those shows, Married Love at First Sight or whatever they're called? And it's like drama. Dating, relationships. There's a funny joke this could be. I forget his name. So forgive me for not giving you credit, but it's a really great joke. And he said that he had some buddies that he hadn't seen in a long time. They were in town and they were gonna go hang out, play around a golf. And.
He comes, I guess he was saying, like, yeah, you know, like, you know, Jim got divorced or something and we haven't seen him in a long time. He comes back and his wife was like, so how was it? He's like, oh, it was great. She's like, how's Jim doing? And he's like, okay, I guess. And then she's like, okay, but like, what about his divorce? And he's like, I don't know. And she's like, you. You guys didn't talk about it? And he goes, didn't come up. She's like, what are you doing? How are you? So to women, it's like the guys go and hang out and literally don't talk about relationships.
D
Dude.
G
I went to hang out with my buddy Bryce, Shout out. And then we were supposed to play Fallout for like two days straight. And then I went home and my mom was like, so what's he. Where's he working nowadays?
C
I'm like, I have no idea.
G
Is he in a relationship? I don't think so.
B
He's out of doubt it.
D
Interesting.
C
Ask him.
B
The interesting thing is, like, when I was growing up, there was pretty much no real big female voices because there wasn't. There was no Internet back then, at least at this point, there is only radio. And the reason women are so big now and they weren't on a radio is because they're using their looks when it came to radio, they couldn't use their looks to exploit anything. So if you want to eliminate women off the Internet, when it comes to their influence, all you got to do is eliminate filters.
E
But that doesn't.
B
You get rid of filters.
E
That doesn't explain Oprah Winfrey. And she was like the first real gigantic name amongst women.
B
Yeah, they were just. They wanted to make a black woman famous back then.
C
We're relaunching the show and we're talking about just relationships. And so we'll just spend every day talking about Ian's adventures.
G
And yeah, I'm the single guy needs to find a wife. Everybody helps me.
C
And then what will happen is we might lose our male audience, but we'll get a massive female audience.
E
You want to meet women, they don't.
B
Spend it outside, so it doesn't matter. It's like irrelevant.
E
Yeah, go to, go to, Go to public places, meet people, talk to people. You have to do that kind of stuff. Staying at home doesn't help.
C
I feel like Shane has been quiet and I'm curious your thoughts on not just to say, like, hey, everything that's going we're talking about, but just like where we're going.
F
I just feel compelled to say, rejoice in the Lord always. Again, I will say, rejoice. Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. Be anxious for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding and will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
G
Raymond G. Stanley last night, what's the best future? And he said, christ pray. That was his response, is the future. You pray. It's like you pray and then you meditate. And that stillness allows God to rebalance, to form with your prayer.
F
You need to pray every day, all day, every day.
B
I think personally and again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I think anyone who thinks they have a relationship with God has an extremely huge ego. I think we're all. I think we're all specks of Sanda, the real prime creator. And the only time he's going to deal with us is when we pass on to the next lifetime. Then he judges us. We all will be judged. I don't see any point of the worship or any of this other.
F
I will say, then submit yourselves to, therefore to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. James 4, 7.
B
Oh, I mean, listen, I'm not.
F
I will Say then, and give no opportunity to the devil. Ephesians 4, 27.
B
Oh, I mean, listen, you can read a book that's 2,000.
F
I will say, whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil. And for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the sin, the son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.
B
1 John 3 Brother, for 2,000 years, people thought Jesus was coming back and he still isn't there. So what does that make all those people who died waiting for him?
F
I will say, behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.
B
He hold a pale horse.
C
Was there, was there a date given for when that was going to happen?
B
I mean, they keep saying he's coming back. So, I mean, like, we've had billions.
C
I thought that wasn't until like the Red Heer thing happened.
G
I think it's the Internet that's going to make it happen. And it's going to be the Christ likeness is what Jesus is. The people embodying Christ.
B
I think it's going to be Project Blue Beam.
G
There's.
B
That's what I think.
G
There's going to be a critical mass of people that embody Christ like behavior. And then it's going to pulse out and all these people are going to start acting like it.
E
And I thought that, that there were only a few people or a small group of people that were going to be chosen and saved.
G
I think the story says there's one guy is going to appear, but I think it's when there's a critical mass of humans, that's when you really see a change. Because one guy can come and go.
E
Did you read that in the Bible?
G
No, man.
C
I just feel like it. Yeah, I just feel it, baby.
G
No, it's actually logical.
C
It would be impossible. For a flash in the pan, a.
G
Guy comes, he gets super famous and then he dies. He'll be made a martyr. They'll use him to sell products.
C
Who's the Antichrist?
G
Anyone can become that. Anyone that acts sinful, that is an Antichrist of Christ.
E
Not biblically, but I mean anybody with.
G
A lot of wealth that's super famous and loved that decides to become sinful, then becomes the Antichrist.
C
Do Jews have an Antichrist a lot?
D
I don't think so.
C
No.
D
No, not that.
C
When's the Messiah coming for you guys?
D
We want Mashiach now, is what you say. Our Messiah didn't come back yet.
C
So, like what's supposed to happen? It's like the red heifer, right?
D
I don't. I need to look into it.
C
Oh, you don't know. You don't know.
D
He's only Jewish porn in, blood in, blood out.
B
The Antichrist is human behavior right now in 2025, where instead of moms and dads, you have baby mamas. That's. That's the Antichrist right there. The damn culture we're in right now.
C
What does the numerology say about next year?
B
Next year is 2026, the year the horse and people who are born in horse years are going to dominate next year. I expect Myron Gaines to be one of the top guys next year.
C
Really?
B
100.
C
What does that mean, top guys? You think he's going to be like, well, didn't Kamala Harris blame him for losing?
B
That's going to be a big help right there.
C
And it's the midterm, so I wonder. This is going to be interesting. They could be, like, playing off of what Kamala said, using him as a. Oh, look what the right is, you know? But the reason why I don't think so is because he's black.
B
Well, I mean, listen, we live in a day and age where that goes both ways. Black people can actually say certain things that you can't. You say some things. Myron says you're going to get canceled. He won't because he has a shield. It goes. It goes. It goes both ways. Goes both ways. White people can say certain things. Black people can say certain things, and women can say anything they want with no accountability.
E
What are things that white people can say that black people can.
C
You can't say, daddy, oh, that was dark. That was.
G
Hey, Gary, you said it was the year of the horse next year.
D
Yes.
G
What are other years of the horse in the last 50 years?
B
2014, 2002, 1990. So, for instance, some of the things I expect, I expect more deflation to come. Next year, I expect bitcoin deflation. Deflation. Correct. I expect deflation to come. I expect oil prices to fall, and I do expect bitcoin and a lot of cryptocurrencies to crash.
C
Why is that?
B
Because OPEC was founded in the rat year. The enemy of the rat is the horse. Next year is the horse year. So I expect oil prices to fall. Oh. When it comes down to bitcoin, this is the best example I can give. Bitcoin was founded January 3, 2009. That is a rat currency. It. The worst year for bitcoin was 2014 where it fell around 92. That was the year the horse, the horse here comes once every 12 years. Next one's 2026. Bye bye crypto.
E
When you say deflation, you're talking about deflation in the value of the dollar.
B
Deflation in everything except food.
C
Is it 2014?
B
Yes, 2014 was.
E
When was the last time there was deflation? Because deflation. Yeah, I mean deflation can like lead to a deflationary spiral where nobody spends because the value of their dollar keeps going up.
B
Yeah, I understand what deflation is and I'm telling people that I think the property markets are going to go down, the housing market's going to go down next year and I do expect the big crash for the ST to be 200.
E
Okay, but that's deflation though.
B
Well, it all if people listen, you have a out AI out here who's taking everyone's jobs. These people have no more income in the streets. What do you think's going to happen? But there's no more money in the streets.
E
But the term deflation means the value of the dollar goes up.
B
Right.
E
Inflation means the value of the dollar goes down.
B
I expected the value of the dollar to go up. Correct. Really?
G
Okay, but why food? Why not food?
C
So hold on, this interesting bitcoin had a 77% drop in 2022.
B
Go to 2000. I call that one too. But go to 2014. That was the biggest. 85%, that's the biggest percentage. So I'm right, Right.
C
But it fell 85% and then it climbed even higher and then in 2022 it dropped 77%.
B
So I'm expecting not Bitcoin to go down to 40 to 50,000. 30, 20 even below. If you have your money in cryptocurrency, your cook next year.
C
Oh man, what is. Lewis, we'll do a side bet.
D
What is the basis more than happy?
B
Numerology. Numerology.
D
And that's what you're talking about here, when you're connecting?
B
Yeah. Well, numerology and Chinese astrology, by far. When I talk about numerology and Chinese astrology, you have to understand the way I look at the world. I look at this as a virtual reality, I look at this as a simulation. And I look at numerology, astrology, the Chico's. I actually look at numerology as God code. I believe that is the system the prime creator gave us. To be able to see somewhat into the future, to be able to make good decisions. Know when bad years are coming, know when good years are Coming. Because the name of the game is really timing. Why did you know Napoleon become who he was? Because of timing. Why did Genghis Khan become who he was? Because there's plenty of smart people in the world. There's plenty of great leaders in the world. Why would those guys where they were? Because they did things at the right time. Andrew Tate became world famous in 2022. That's the year of the tiger. Andrew Tate's born 1986. The year of the tiger. There you go, Mr.
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That was the year to pick the pig. The pig is the 12th sign you are tiger third sign. One and two is three. So natural friends. I'm not saying that's your best friend, but usually pigs do and tigers do well together.
C
So 2022 is supposed to be a big year.
B
I mean look at Tom Cruise. He's born 1962 year the Tiger. His hit movie Top Gun came 1986, the year the tiger and then it came all the way back again in 2022. Another Tiger year. So Tom Cruise's both his top gun movies came out in his own year. I have energy at work.
D
I don't mean to come off as factious but what makes you believe in numerology? You found some of these coincidences?
B
I always wanted to know why some people were good looking. I found out people born on the 5th, 14th, 23rd are the good looking ones, the models. I always wanted to know why am I good looking? I mean, I don't judge guys based.
D
On what I was born regardless.
B
Well, hold on, maybe you should ask Milo, like, you know, Friday. I don't do that stuff. You know, I don't, I don't, I don't judge guys. Okay?
D
You know, people are handsome, the guys are.
B
Let me just say this, let me say this. I can prove some things, like for instance, 28, number of wealth. Okay, so Elon Musk is born on the 28th. Bill Gates is born on the 20th. As a matter of fact, if you look up Carlos Saleem, five of the richest 25 guys.
C
Why is it that, why is 28.
B
28 is the number of wealth.
D
I'm sure I could find a bunch.
C
Of people who are, yeah, why?
B
Because that's the energy that represents wealth.
C
But why with. Because are you basically just looking at.
B
Rich people and being like, so, so for instance, let's look at what the Chinese did. There's eight and there's 28. Those are the two wealth numbers. The Chinese start their Olympic Games on 88, 2008 at exactly 808:00pm they went from the 15th biggest economy in the world to the second in a few years. So obviously you have people in positions of power who are using this stuff and other people are reading the Bible in the Quran.
D
I think you're just trying to.
B
Do you think, do you think they believe it's a coincidence?
D
No.
B
Okay, so, okay, so the Chinese president Xi, he's born in the year the Snake, 1953. He came to power in 2013, the year to snake. Vladimir Putin, born in the year of the dragon and he became president. Russia 2000, the year the Dragon. So when people go based off their energy, I mean you are a nine life path. Nines are the most adaptive people in the world. I'm sure you have adapted to many things.
C
There's always an answer, isn't there?
D
Always.
B
And that, that's, that's what I do. I mean obviously you have a common for everything.
D
When did this happen? When did you start?
B
9 11. Okay, 9 11. So when I looked at 91111 equals 20. I'll get there in a second. When I looked at 9 11, I woke up and I'm like, damn, whole bunch of people died. I went out smoked one for all the, you know, victims, families and stuff like that. And I came inside and I saw a second plane hit. And I'm like, wait a second. The Twin Towers look like an 11. The first plane to hit the World Trade center is flight 11. I mean, the police code for emergency is 911. Started digging a little bit more. New York City, 11 letters. Afghanistan, 11 letters. Shanksville, 11 letters. The Pentagon, 11 letters. I'm like, oh, that's going on the Pentagon, 11 letters. So I started looking all this. I'm like, wait a second, what's going on here? This is too much to be a coincidence. And then I looked at Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda was founded on the 11th. The first that had three major terrorist attacks. Al Qaeda is known because there's only 30. Hold on, let me finish. They were founded on the 11th. They hit Madrid, Spain, on March 11th, they hit Mumbai, India, on July 11th, and they hit America on 9. 11. The chances of all those attacks happening on the 11th and Al Qaeda being found on 11th, we're talking about in the millions.
C
They would just be like, we're going to do it on the 11th because we like the number.
B
No, they actually know something about numerology, and that's why they did. Uncertainty.
G
I mean, for sure.
D
But you said the Muslims.
C
You said the.
D
They don't believe in the number system, the Muslims.
B
Well, the poor ones don't.
D
Okay, according to the Quran, though, they don't.
B
Oh, I mean, listen, they say divination is bad. They say the same thing in the Bible. Divination is bad. Right. Well, if divination's so bad, Stop paying attention to the weather Channel. Okay, seriously, stop playing. Stop paying attention to the weather Channel. If divination is bad. Here's the point. I'm not God. I'm nothing compared to God, including everyone in this room. Agreed?
D
Yeah.
B
None of us are gods in here. Correct. So God knows everything. When it comes down to what's going to happen when you're born, you're going to die. We'll never get to that level, but we can use the numerology and astrology to help guide us on the right path.
D
What does it have to do with the weather? Like, we could predict the weather based on patterns.
B
Divination.
C
How does astrology work? Like, you've done a lot of numerology. Numerology. What's the astrology?
B
Okay, well, there's basically 12 signs. The first one is rats, and it's enemy with the horse.
C
Well, you mean Chinese zodiac.
B
Chinese. That's that's what I focus on, that one. Because that's, that's the most accurate to me. I don't do the woman.
D
He thinks astrology is gay.
C
That's not astrology.
B
That's Chinese zodiac.
C
Chinese zodiac, yeah.
B
Oh, I don't do the Libra, Capricorn. I think it has some road value, but that's. I leave that for the women. When it comes down to the Chinese astrology, it's extremely accurate. I'll give you an example. Rat. The year the rat in the year the horse are enemies. Shaq was a rat, Kobe was a horse. They hated each other. Little things like that go a long way in making people understand how this works. Lehman Brothers. Lehman Brothers was found in the horse year, collapsed in 2008. The year of the rat. Again, enemy signs at work. Next one enemy sign. The goat and the ox. So Hitler is the best example I can give people. Hitler was born 1889, the year of the ox. And when did he start losing World War II? 1943. He lost Stalingrad. He lost cursed war was over. And guess what? That was his enemy year. Now let's go to Saddam Hussein. Another guy who's born in the year the ox. He's born 1937, the year the goat is his enemy. What happened first Gulf War in 1991. Second, second Gulf War, 2003, we took them out again. Both those were ox were goat years. So if you start looking at this stuff from a pattern recognition standpoint, you'll see certain consistencies there.
D
I think if you look for certain trends that you can find the ones that you want to find with the examples that you want to find, given the rich history that we have on this planet.
B
Well, the, the thing about it is, when you look at history, it will tell you if it's. I'm not making this stuff up. I'm just looking at pattern recognition.
D
I think if people want to find a pattern, they'll find a pattern. Well, I mean, you're motivated to find a pattern. We're humans. And you're going to find that pattern. Well, like if you have, if you start with a conclusion, then you'll find your way to that conclusion.
B
But that's, that's what you believe. And I would say that you probably haven't looked into numerology and astrology long enough. And if you're around me for about, about 24 hours, you'll start seeing it yourself. So I will point it out.
C
You named like Tom Cruise, Xi Jinping, people who were born in the air and then rose to power in those years.
B
Correct.
C
Here's Lady Gaga, Drake, Megan Fox, Usain Bolt, Lindsay Lohan are tigers, but they were all came to prominence in non tiger years. Lady Gaga in a dragon rat year, Drake in an oxen tiger year, Usain Bolt in a rat and ox. Here there's no match. Then you have dragons. Rihanna, Adele, Emma Stone, Rupert Grint, Rihanna and Adele exploded into pig, ox, tiger. Dragon year was. It was too early for dragon year and in 2012 they were already famous. Of the monkeys, you've got Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato and Cardi B all became famous in pig and rooster years. And then among rat years, you have Scarlett Johansson, Katy Perry, Mark Zuckerberg, Lebron James, and their breakthroughs were in sheep to tiger years.
B
When was Facebook founded?
C
2005.
B
No.
Go ahead and look up. I want to make sure I'm right.
C
Can you, can you, can you respond?
B
Yeah, I can. Facebook was founded in 2004.
C
What does that year?
B
I just pointed out when did its stock have a major crash? One 2022. And that was its enemy year. So let's go through the list. This year.
C
I just listed a bunch of celebrities that didn't rise to prominence in the same year as they were born. And you ignored the question. You ignored.
B
I didn't ignore anything. If you want me to go into single detail about everyone's life, pick one. Let's go through the details.
C
Lady Gaga.
B
Okay. She's born March 28th, I believe.
C
I don't know. She was born in 1986.
B
What year? 1986 year. The tiger.
C
You're the tiger.
B
Okay.
C
And she became famous in the dragon year.
B
Okay. So again, the numerology does supersede the astrology, but the astrology does work. She's born.
D
I'll.
B
I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example of how this works.
E
86. 3-28-86.
B
I'll give an example how this works. America is a monkey nation. America's. Whoa, whoa. America's founded 17. America's founded. 1776, the year of the monkey. People who are tigers, they usually have a lot of issues with getting banned or, you know, being one of those guys who are on government watch list and things like that. So let's go through four of the most banned people in the Internet and you tell me if you agree. Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, Sneako. I would say. I would say, well, he's the smallest name there, but those all are tigers and they all got banned in the Monkey nation. What I'm basically trying to tell you is this stuff works.
D
If you look at Laura Loomer is extremely banned. I don't know. Was she born in the year of the.
B
She is born 1993, the year of the rooster. And she doesn't play well with others. So it is what it is.
G
I kind of subscribe to the magnetic universe theory. A lot of scientists talk of Thunderbolts project and that we are connected through some sort of force, whether planets in the position of the planet when the radiation is passing through it, that causes a refraction through our planet and our bodies as our babies are coming out of the womb, no longer protected by the radiation protection of the mother's stomach, and they're exposed to this radiation for the first time. That it might have something to do with the numbers that we've derived from the position of things.
B
No, I get it. Listen, I like to talk about people who are up here so people can see this stuff with their own eyes. Who basically started the podcast game? Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan.
D
Curry.
B
But then Joe Rogan is born.
C
No.
Tom Green.
D
Tom Green, Yeah, Tom Green.
B
Can we say that Alex Jones had a big part of it?
G
No, it's fair to say Rogan. We'll say Rogan's not.
D
Tom Green really started Rogan.
C
Joe Rogan didn't get on Apple Podcast. Apple podcast was already made. Tom Green started doing it was. It was Joe Rogan on Tom Green. Right. That was the big story. And before him, it was Adam. What's his name?
G
Curry.
D
Yeah.
C
Who coined the term podcast.
G
Yeah, well, it was an. It was an Apple thing because it was the ipod.
C
Right. And it was. Instead of having a song, you'd have an MP3 of a conversation on your ipod. And then people could listen to shows by downloading.
B
Alex Jones, born on the 11th, very charismatic guy. Joe Rogan, born on the 11th. Again, very charismatic guy. Hulk Hogan, born on the planet. Hold on, let me finish, let me finish. What you have to understand is people born on certain dates have gonna have certain abilities, and people who are born on 11th have a hell of a lot of charisma. And that's why Joe Rogan's number one, because he's born on the 11th. Candace Owens. I know you don't like her, but she's born on 29th, 29 is 11. That's where she gets that mouthpiece from. It is what it is. I'm telling you what it is. So people with certain numbers are. Are going to See that Aiden Ross, I don't think much of him but he's born on 11th and a lot of people give him a lot of credit for doing the.
D
Are you pagan?
B
No. Okay, this, I, I believe in a crime creator. What a prime creator, what you would call God.
D
Very supernatural and pagan.
B
I mean listen again I explain. I believe this is a, basically a virtual reality. And in this virtual reality numerology, neurology is chicos. I'll give you one more example and you guys can tear me apart if you want to but never answered to.
C
The celebrities I listed who weren't born in those years.
B
I just said numerology supersedes astrology. So if, if the answer isn't within astrology, you start have to start looking at their numerology.
C
It sounds like what you're saying is if it doesn't fit your explanation, I'm.
B
Sure that, I'm sure that's what it sounds like. But when you actually look into the information you'll see that it's actually relevant. I'll give you one more. Apple. Apple was founded by Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs was born, 224, 1955. 224,1955 adds up to 28. He started Apple on 41 1976. 411976 adds up to 28. He incorporated Apple on January 3, 1977. 131977 adds up to 28. So what we have there is someone who is one of the top guys who was ever in tech field was using numerology because he went to India, he learned it and then he incorporated Apple and it became the richest cash rich company in the world. And, and by the way Steve Cook's another 28 and he took over his job. So what I'm basically trying to tell you is this might sound like nonsense to you, just like the Bible and the Quran sounds like nonsense to me and a lot of people. But you have to understand I am looking at this from a logical standpoint. When you see something that keeps coming up over and over and over, at some point it has to stop being a coincidence, right?
C
But if I make, if I make like a prediction, are you able to look at that prediction and then say oh that's false because of this and then come up with another way to like change that specific thing. You have to have to be able to falsify someone using the system incorrectly, correct?
B
Well here's the thing.
C
You're not using the right system or.
B
Not using the right way. I'll tell you how I grew up.
Let me just Finish this. In 2002, after 9 11, I started looking at all the numerology books. I'm like, this is crap. None of this stuff works. And then I started talking to all the top numerologists in the field. And I realized one thing about them. They were all broken. And I'm thinking, if these guys were so good at what they did, why they broke, why they broke. Well, here's the thing. I'm a multi millionaire many times over. And at the end of the day, people who are in the Saudi royal family, they come to me when they want to have a wedding, they want to have the right day. I talk to the very, very top of the food chain. And that's why if you actually need security and you're willing to go down to Miami, I promise you, you'll be taken care of.
C
No, not Miami.
G
You said when we met Gary, about an hour and two hours ago, you. You were like right on about what my life has been like and all.
D
Yeah, but, but, but I. I wondered.
G
If you were just looking in my eyes and you could tell things about my feelings by looking at me.
C
Yeah, it's called cold reading.
G
Is that part of numerology?
B
No, but there are mentalists who can do it. There are mentalists who can.
D
Do you wear your personality on your face too, Ian? You look like an Ian.
G
Life change, I mean, a lot of people, there's this thing called the saturnal return. Saturn returns every 27.
B
Someone 28 and a half years.
G
28 and a half is like the most profound year of your life for a lot of people that, that those three years define what the rest of your life is going to be like.
C
Heard many times.
B
There's a lot of truth to that.
D
Shane, you sound awfully quiet over there. As our residents outside of the box thinker, what do you think of numerology and what we think?
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D
That sounded nice.
E
That's legit. I don't know the which, which phrase or which passage it is, but is it?
B
I mean we have a whole bunch of people question numerology but they're, you know, willing to believe the Bible and Quran with no evidence that. So it is.
D
I think half of the people here are. Wouldn't even consider themselves Christian. Like I don't, I don't think.
C
When I was 28, I was working at Fusion and that did not define my life. That was like a wasted two years.
G
What about. Oh, not really.
C
That.
G
That was like the springboard to the next.
C
No, it wasn't abc, that was abc.
B
Yeah.
C
Where I did nothing for two years. There's no springboard.
E
Dude, it's going to tell you.
G
I mean you were sort of making shitloads of money in those years.
C
No, I already made money.
G
You said you double trip two and a half times your salary in that age.
C
I think going from like 100 and something to like 250 was a standard promotion. But it didn't define my life. It didn't set me on a path. I don't think it actually for two years I did little and the only real argument was that I worked a job where I saved money.
This is, this is, it's.
G
Well, I think the human brain gets developed at age 25. So I think that's why a lot of people have profound transition.
C
My life doesn't fit any of these numbers.
B
Well, I'll tell you what, anyone who thinks I'm a fraud, I'm sure there's a whole bunch of them. I can put up a hundred thousand dollars. We can go up to random people. I'll be blindfolded and I'll do exactly what I did to you. Read them like a book. I only have to look at their face and if I'm wrong, I'll pay you guys. If I'm right, pay me.
C
We can.
B
I wait.
D
So what is your contention?
C
Wrong about what?
B
I mean, let's bring 100 random people, 50, whatever you want. I'll be blindfolded and I'll just give them a reading based off their birthday.
C
They say what does that mean, a reading? Like what do you ask them?
B
I'm not going to ask them anything except their birthday. And then they can go into their life and they'll tell me if I'm right or wrong. Like I lie.
C
What's your birthday?
B
Do.
D
Do I tell you first or you tell me?
B
No, I don't. I'm not psychic, bro.
D
Okay, so 9-20- you sound like it. 9-22-93.
B
9-22-93. You're eight life path, which means your money is either here or here. It's never in the middle. You're never going to be middle class. Either going to go up or you're going to go down. So what you have to understand is eight has two circles around it. The middle represents middle class. That's why it's very thin. So either going to be poor or rich. Never in the middle. You're also very karmic. You do bad things. They come right back to you very, very quickly. You have an aggressive personality. 2023, you probably had some setbacks in life. You should have had a good year this year. But one of your main things in life is you're good at building up other people. That is one of your main gifts.
D
Describing the person you've seen in front of you during.
B
Well, you. You could think that, but you could put a blindfold in front of me and I'd say the same goddamn thing without seeing you, without ever talking to you.
G
You do build. You say how young I look.
B
A lot.
C
A lot.
I hear a voice.
There's someone talking to me. They care deeply about you.
B
I didn't do that.
C
They're telling me tell a lot. Not to worry about the money. Does that mean anything to you? A lot. Are you worried about money?
D
I am worried about money. Wow, that sounds right.
B
I wasn't doing that.
E
I actually thought.
B
No, I was.
E
I thought the voice was telling you to go to super chats.
C
I love the. I love reading horoscopes because it's like they describe everyone all the time. They're so vague.
G
Like 12 different aspects.
C
I'm just glad it was fired, bro. I said that literally every single year.
B
Always the number more than others, brother.
C
I think every single year. The setback.
G
It's, like, premature to say it's fake because there's no. What you're doing could very well be cracking the code of, like, cymatic reality.
C
Cymatic.
D
It doesn't.
G
There's a frequency that can be measured with numbers that are producing shape of reality.
C
All right, well, we're gonna go to your rumble rants and super chats. So Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, if you do like what we do and appreciate our work, maybe the penthouse idea is a good idea. I actually like that idea because it sounds comfortable and no, it's a good point about security. You're on top of building. They ain't coming for you.
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Right?
C
So I really do. I really do appreciate everybody who's watching. Let's. Let's grab this great sponsor we got. It is Backyard Butchers, my friends. Go to backyard butchers.com Tim. Promo code Tim. And you will get 30% off plus a free turkey or ham with your purchase. That's 30 off your holiday turkey or holiday. Yo, Christmas is coming up. Are you gonna have steaks? That sounds like a really great Christmas. I gotta be completely honest. You gotta kick out that big ag, that big agriculture garbage. They got feedlot mystery meat, chemicals and hormones. And I Have you guys heard this. They glue meat together now gross fake steaks where they use an enzyme to stick a bunch of pieces of meat so it looks like a filet or disgusting. Now we don't want that. We want real rancher raised beef. So you got to go to Backyard butchers dot com. You got to get your. Look at this, this steakhouse box. Man. I want to get me a ribeye now. Oh, New York strip. Just, you know, I want each and every one. Each and every one. Check them out. Thank you so much for sponsoring the show. Backyard Butchers. American tradition, American meat. Go to backyard butchers.com promo code Tim. 30% off.
G
I actually put away a box of Backyard Butchers a couple days ago and it just in felt good in my hands. It was a strange feeling. I was just carrying it to the.
C
Freezer and I feel the life force from metal. It's going to enter your body, Ian. You need to eat more protein.
E
Okay.
C
All right. Cheeseburger says hire black trans security guards. Left wing terrorists won't dare antagonize them.
B
All right.
C
Black guitar says. I think the first live stream I ever saw was Tim running around Ferguson with Alice Sperry. Always a pleasure being a part of your audience. It's all different iterations. Trust your gut. Thank you, sir. Silent golfer says never give in. Never give in, Never, never, never, never in nothing greater, small, large or petty. Never gonna give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force. Churchill indeed.
Same old man says I, a conservative. Have already called her out several times over before you said something. I am just not famous. Sorry for what happened to you, Tim. And that's why I'm saying I'm not the first person to be critical of Candace Owens. Certainly not. But I guess I am the subject. Subject of her episode today. So there you go.
B
Would you ever go one on one with her?
C
Sure.
D
Okay.
C
She have a conversation with her about stuff.
B
So you do a podcast with her?
C
Yeah, she's been on the show before.
B
Not in the current, like.
C
Right, right, right. The issue is, you see what she did with Turning Point where she was like, name the time and place and I'll be there. And they went, okay, the 15th at noon. I can't be there. They did that on purpose so that they knew I wouldn't come. And it's like, what? Like Nick Fuentes? I learned this from a Nick Fuentes club, of all places, where he's like, she said, name the time and place and, and, and I'll be there. And then when they did, she was like, you never consulted with me. I can't do that. And it's like, what?
B
I'd be more than happy to try to set it up if you like me to.
C
Yeah, I mean, we'll see how it goes.
I'll talk to my booking people. And then I guess the question is, what's. Is the conversation literally just this with her in person?
B
I mean, I think you find out when you get in the room together. But I do know this. It'll probably be one of the most viral podcasts of 2025. Not that you care, but.
C
No, I just think it's crazy that, you know, one clip she posted that was a fake clip was Elad saying you said something like, I think she respects your show and she'll comment on it. I was like, no, her show's always been bigger than mine. I don't know, whatever. But fair point. I got millions of followers on X, so certainly that's gonna matter. But yeah, whatever. I mean, I'll have a conversation with anybody. I just, I think that she is a sophist and a manipulator and she's doing a true crime drama show. So it's just like, I, I can't, I can't say no to that. But I kind of roll my eyes like, oh, you know, more drama, more true crime, more. More nonsense.
B
At the end of the day, the people decided that you're one of the top guys in the field and she is too.
G
So maybe it'll be good training to handle like an eight year old daughter.
D
What?
G
You just learn to gently have a conversation with a female that you've got Some agitation with. And then, you know, you'll help your kids with that when they freak out when they're eight and they drop their fork on the ground and you'll be.
C
Like, I know how to talk to you.
D
You.
C
I like how her own lawyers work in a federal building. And no, none of her audience questioned it.
B
Now they.
E
They're fine with it.
C
She says a bunch of fake things. Like she's saying today on her show that, I think I own my audience.
B
She.
C
She. She. You know. You know what's really weird? You know, you notice how she refers to herself in the plural. She says we and us for everything. She never says I like that. Like, come on. You know, she. She tweets at me and she's like, tell us, Tim. And I'm like, us? Who's us? And on her show saying, we don't. Blah, blah, blah, and we don't do. We don't care about your midterms. Like, who's we? But I guess there's a lot of people who really like that. They feel like they're a part of something when she refers to her and them as one group, you know?
G
Yeah, it's risky.
F
I got one more thing to add before I go. Just want to say, humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God, so that at the proper time, he may exalt you. And I'm praying for you.
B
Please don't pray, because when you pray, you become prey.
D
Thank you. I will.
F
Despite that, I will pray for you, sir. Thank you very much.
C
I'll see you all.
B
I do. I do not accept your prayers, but thank you.
G
That's Shane Cashman heading to Tales from the inverted world at 10:00pm Eastern Standard Time. Coming up right after this show.
B
I get so much pushback with the numerology and astrology, but it doesn't seem like anyone wants to push back on religion. You don't sound how that works.
D
You don't sound half as ridiculous as he.
C
Well, but here's the thing. Like, I'm not a Christian, and we've had tons of debates with Christians, and there's no reason for me to debate Christianity, which we've done 1700 times. I've never had a numerologist on, oh, 100%.
B
But what I'm basically trying to tell you is I can prove more with numbers based off mathematics than anyone can with religion.
D
I think they do totally different things, though. I don't.
B
Yeah, one's real, one's fake. I think 100%.
D
It's like a moral basis People get their moral basis from religion off.
B
I don't.
D
And I don't think you can get a moral basis from numerology. Unless I'm missing.
B
Well, I mean, listen, numerology supports the family unit. One is male energy. Two is female energy. Three is kid energy, childlike energy. One plus two plus three equals six. Six is the number of families.
C
Oh, he's there.
D
It's there.
C
Hold on. Elad, did you ever hear about that, like, what's that thing where like, Jews use numbers that are worse?
D
They do do.
G
That's the cymatics I'm talking about.
C
What's that about? A lot.
D
I'm surprised you don't use Kabbalah instead of the Chinese stuff.
B
Chinese stuff seems a little bit gematria. I mean, it's all the same literal.
D
No, but I mean, I guess the difference for religion is like, for example, there's the Ten Commandments, and you're supposed to do that to. To abide by God's laws and those, they're real life applications, commandments, as opposed to one is the father.
B
I get you, I get you, but I'm sorry, I don't need the Bible to tell me not to cheat on my wife. I don't need the Quran to tell me I shouldn't steal a murder. Okay, I can figure that out.
E
I would because.
B
Because there's something called morality I would make.
My morality is based off being a Jewish man who married a Muslim woman who doesn't give a damn about any of this nonsense. And I know my numbers are real because it's. It's going to change. Let me tell you how the world's gonna. Let me tell you how the world's gonna end, okay, in 2000.
E
On your. Your morality is based on Christianity.
B
No, my morality is based off having a wife. If you were husband and kids.
C
If you were raised a wife and a husband.
E
If you were raised in, In. If you were in Central America, like when the Aztecs were.
B
Were and you were in Saudi Arabia, you'd be a Muslim. Okay, what's the point?
E
The point that I. Well, let me finish and I'll go ahead and I'll get there.
D
If you.
E
And it was said it's okay and it's actually good to sacrifice people, you would think that it's good to sacrifice people. You are a product of the society that you're grown up in.
B
I'm a product of society where in 2004, Muslims were being demonized. Not married one. I don't give a damn what society Thinks I don't.
C
You.
E
You can marry whoever you want. And there was plenty of people that were saying that we should not demonize Muslims in 2004. So it's not like you were not that, like, the only guy that was saying your. But the idea that human beings create their own morality when their moral structure is. Is entirely similar to Christianity or. Or in some cases, Judaism. It's not.
C
We got to read more of these.
B
Can I finish one more time? I just want to say this. I'm never going to be a Christian, but I do. I do recognize that America is a Christian nation. And because I'm an American, I. I will fight for Christian values. S. I will give you guys that.
D
Grif.
C
Alicia says keep calling Candace an effing C word. I'm toning it down now. And I will increase my Tim Cast membership for more of this. Well, you know, James with politics says Tim Cast. IR must not end. If IRL stops and the leftists win, what is the point of relocating? It seems that said new location will be figured out. Actually, a really great point. Penthouse.
D
We.
C
If we relocate to a penthouse, then we don't, like. No one's going to be shooting up our studio dude.
D
Or office building.
B
Well, there's. There's different type of buildings. You need one with a lot of security. There's something called the Porsche Tower. There's the Muse Building, and Sunny Island.
D
Throughout New York City, there are a lot of office buildings that are extremely secure. There are a lot of billionaires, multimillionaires in New York City that are under a ton of threat.
C
I'm not going to wait around for Zoran Mandani to show up and take all my stuff. Stuff from no income tax in Florida. Yeah.
B
And people walk around with AKs, too.
G
Yeah.
C
We're talking about the, like, the first week back after the holiday is going to be in Florida as we reassess how to handle the security issue. Because, you know, I'll just give a little bit more details, but I'm talking obviously with a rumble crew, and we're like, how do we make this work? Because it's not just me who's getting threats or, you know, shots fired at our studio. Most conservatives don't ever talk about this stuff because you're constantly told it'll make things worse. And so there's been a lot going on behind the scenes. There are prominent personalities privately talking about retiring early, quitting, and it's getting crazy. I don't. I don't think. Let me put it like this for everybody. You've heard the stories. You've seen Charlie Kirk die or be murdered, I should say. And you've heard the stories about the political violence, things that have happened to like, people like Andy. No, they tried to kill him, actually. Now imagine, you know, where you are in your home that someone is aiming a weapon at you and your family.
Like, how do you feel? What do you think? It's one thing to be watching these shows and be like, man, things are getting crazy. But for the people that are on the line of fire privately, behind the scenes, they're talking about getting out of the business, straight up. And you can see it. I'm not going to call anybody out. But just notice, keep an eye out for studios that change even a little bit. And that's usually indicative of they're in hiding. They move like a lot of these personalities are doing solo shows. We don't do a solo show. So we have people coming and going all the time. So we can't do it the way we're doing it now because it's just gotten so crazy. So the conversation we're having is we need to have, yeah, office building. I think a penthouse is better because then you're on top of the building. Whereas the office building itself can be targeted. The top of the building is much harder to target, depending on the height of the building. I don't know, about $10 million, though, but it's worth it. Well, maybe if someone else buys it and we use it. I don't know.
B
When are you going to be down in Miami?
C
Never.
B
Listen, brother, come to sunny hours. I wanted to see a couple billionaires. They'll help you out with this currency security.
C
I don't, I don't want to take any money from billions.
B
You don't need to take any money from anyone. They're just going to tell you about the security situation. Yeah, I'm happy to do it.
D
I don't, I hope this doesn't come across as the wrong way. But like, do you have any thought process about how these people are trying to terrorize you and are effective in doing it?
C
The, the, the, the question is the terror isn't even like the most relevant thing. The question is, what is the purpose of what we do? What is the outcome and where will we end up? And I'm looking at right wing grifters shilling for big soda and snap benefits, praising India and other foreign countries for money, promoting foreign gambling sites. This is the movement. Then you've got the likes of Candace and her Crack pottery. And I'm just sitting here being like, it's one thing when there's a coalition leading a charge, saying, we will make this place better for the children to come. It's another thing when it's a bunch of people hiding knives behind their backs, ready to just stab each other. And I'm just like, I'm not sticking my neck out for y', all, you know? And I don't want to say that literally every single person on the right or dispected liberals or moderates or whatever are backstabbing, disloyal mutineers or anything like that, but way too many are exposing themselves as solely being interested in being famous and making money. And it's like, bro, go play video games.
D
Go.
C
Go play slot machines. Y' all. Get way more viewers and have way more fun. Get out of the political space for the time being. When you look at these prominent personalities, and I. I love this how Nick's pointing out that there, you know, Ian Carroll said, nick, we're all here. Where are you? And it's just like there is this large court of people who are just saying insane things all the time. And it works, you know, at least, you know, it's funny. With QAnon, this energy went towards Trump must win. And I think that's why Trump liked QAnon, because he was asked to criticize it, and he didn't really. He didn't really want to do it because you have this network of people believing crazy conspiracies. But it was for getting Trump elected. I'm not a fan of that kind of manipulation, regardless. But now it's to help Trump or help Democrats win and to make Trump lose. So QAnon was never good, in my opinion, and it was weird. And I think deceiving people for political power is always wrong. And now we have people on the right more likely to engage in that, and that is wrong. And I don't want to be party, whatever that movement is. I don't want to help these people.
B
So you leave the space. The one guy who actually.
D
No, I do.
B
I do my morning show.
C
I just don't do guests anymore. We do the morning show the way I used to do it. We can figure out what IRL can be. It's a big channel at 2.6 million subs. I mean, you don't just walk away and abandon everyone who's waiting to watch something. But we can't do it in this iteration. So there are some options going to a secure facility, office building, or Penthouse, something like that. That seems like a pretty good idea, actually. So I appreciate that. And we'll have that. We're having that meeting when we go down to Florida and we're going to be doing the show there for the week to figure out how do we do a show in a way where.
Alleviates these security issues. The challenging thing is someone did have a chat where they were like, and what happens when you leave the building? And it's like, right. But some of these buildings have secure loading docks where the vehicle pulls in the back, there's guards, you get in the car and then the vehicle leaves. So people still might know where your building is, but they can't shoot up to the top of the building and they can't get into the building where the car pulls in to pick you up. So there are solutions. And the crazy thing is I don't even feel like I'm the biggest target, which is the crazy thing. Certainly there are many people who are way more, you know, Trump himself, you know what I mean?
B
But the fact service you don't.
C
Yeah. And they still shot him in the head, which is the scary thing about how we actually navigate this. So grab. We got a few minutes. We got to grab some of these chats. We got a lot of chats. Doc Holliday says yes. Tim 100.
Yeah, you know, feral Cody Campbell says fiatim call this ish out. It's time we stand up and rise against this hate. They shall not effing win. Doc Holliday. Tim spinning facts, spitting facts. He corrected himself and gave an extra $2 in order to do it.
B
Thank you.
G
Nice job.
C
All right, let's see. Mikhail Moby says Tim reported crimes are public record, such as shots fired. We live in a world with AI and nerds. You really shouldn't announce these events. People can map the timing with public records. They sure can. And when someone figures out where we are and shoots, fire shots. Anyway, the idea is kind of like we are past that line already. So I do understand and I respect the point you're trying to make. The issue is it would be weird if we were just like, this is the end of the show. Thank you and have a nice day. We're not going to say anything else. It's another thing to be like, it's about time that people started explaining what was going on. We were spotted 15 times, and the only reason we can say that is because people watched it affect the show. But when other security issues have happened, we've largely just not talked about it. Crowder said that he wished he did because maybe Charlie would have taken security a lot more seriously had Crowder been saying what was going on, the attempts to murder him. And, you know, maybe people would have thought they were taking it more seriously. Let's put it like that right now, because the left cries about every single thing that happens to them. The general perception that is delivered to the American people is that the right or a bunch of Nazis that are terrorizing and killing the left. And the left are a bunch of angels, when in fact it's the inverse. And only recently has that changed. So I think it's actually important that we tell people this is happening to us. And it's difficult to proceed. Let's grab, let's see. We got some big. We're running out of time here. I'm not. Your buddy guy says, can we coexist with these people? They not only executed, but celebrated what happened to Charlie. It's mainstream. So their political leaders will need to cater to this bloodlust. Which brings me back to my question. Can we coexist with these people? It's not just these people. Right now, a large portion of the right wants to see Turning Point burn. So you've got the left celebrating, but elements of the right and the left in agreement that Turning Point is the true perpetrator, which is the weird coalition between the Turning Point. I'm sorry, the Candace Owens and the Young Turks audience, which I find very interesting.
All right, what do we have here? What do we have here?
D
Let's see.
C
We've got about time for one more. And there's a big one that I wanted to find.
A lot of good ones. You can tell what is a super chat from an iPhone because it's 49.99 and you can tell it's Android when it's straight numbers. They do that on purpose.
So that they can track that stuff. That's how Google does it. There was a big one. I can't find it. We have a member here. You'll find it. Sterling Wilson says searches face as Ian is eating up. Numerology is priceless. I'd be interested in reading a reading of my birthday, but not gonna super chat that info. Hahaha. My friends couldn't afford me. It's time for the uncensored portion of the show, which seems, I guess, I don't know, redundant. But head over to rumble.com/timcast IRL where we will continue the conversation. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Tim Cast and well, it's been a wild ride. We're going to have conversations about how we move forward, what we have to do and how we have to do it, what this means for the.
Show going forward. Like I mentioned will be in Florida. So we're here this week, then next week we're in Vegas. It's gonna be a lot of fun. We are going to have to take things very, very seriously this week because it's been crazy. But anyway, Gary, do you want to shut anything out?
B
Yeah. I think the biggest problem in the world is feminism. And the 19th amendment caused more damage than COVID 19. Until women's rights are taken away from them, being able to vote, nothing's ever going to change.
D
Good evening, everybody. Thank you guys for tuning in. This is a fascinating episode and I'm a lot Eliyahu, White House correspondent here at Tim cast.
G
And Gary, you got a huge YouTube channel, the Numbers Guy. Is it.
B
What is it? GG333GG33Academy. GG33Academy. I mean, I can't even use my real name a Gary the Numbers Guy because I'll get suspended for a lot of stuff that happened in the COVID era.
G
Well, go check out the override the algorithm, check out Gary's channel because there's a lot more where this came from. And from, you know, from my perspective, yes, the culture war is alive and there is aspects of the world trying to take over the US government and use the power. But we can also build technologies like plumbing that help everybody. Things like plumbing. We can do this with our roads. We can fix our roads. This will reduce roets.
C
What is that?
G
Put granite in the asphaltarian. The, the. The consistency and durability of the roads by 50 up to 50%. So roads can last twice as long. It reduces strain on the economy. Little things that we can do to reduce the pressure of the world and society will help alleviate whatever this cultural clash is. That will also work. So focus on things you love that can help lots of people.
D
I don't know if that's stopping crackhead Candace, but I sure hope so.
G
One step at a time, baby.
C
All right.
E
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C
We will see you all@rumble.com Tim in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.
D
Sam.
The world.
C
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Date: December 9, 2025
Guests: Gary the Numbers Guy, Shane (Inverted World Live), Ian, Elad Eliyahu, Phil Labonte (All That Remains)
In an intense and urgent episode, Tim Pool and the Timcast IRL crew recount a recent drive-by shooting targeting their studio, discuss ongoing threats against prominent conservative commentators, and reflect on the dangerous climate facing independent media. The conversation also explores numerology and astrology with guest Gary the Numbers Guy, followed by heated debate on political fragmentation, right-wing infighting, and the personal costs of maintaining a high-profile, controversial platform in modern America. The episode mixes personal anecdotes with broader commentary on cultural and political instability heading into a contentious election year.
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Attacks and Threats Against Conservatives:
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Aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s Death:
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Numerology in Politics and Culture:
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Related Rumble segment airs after the main show.