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We get started, there's a tsunami advisory for for Hawaii. An 8.0 magnitude earthquake was near Russia so it looks like the tsunami advisory. I should say an advisory going out to all of Hawaii. This is breaking just as we're getting started from the for the show and considering it could save lives. You know we'll always try to make sure we get those messages out to anybody who may be listening out in Hawaii or anywhere in the Pacific. Please stay safe everybody and we'll be monitoring, monitoring the situation to see what happens. In the meantime, we're gonna be talking about things that are substantially less relevant but still relevant to the culture. And that is South Park's latest episode. Though not out they put out a trailer and Cartman is Charlie Kirk. Now this matters my friends. Because it basically means I gotta say it. I know the left is gonna whinge and whine about it. Feels like we won the culture war. That's it. They didn't make a single episode about Joe Biden or Harris. Now they're making episodes about Charlie Kirk. Charlie, you made it. Charlie Kirk changed his profile picture to that of Eric Cartman. And I'm pretty sure south park is older than Charlie Kirk is. I easily several years in fact. So it's pretty crazy to see that Charlie tpusa, Trump and this independent media space has become substantially more relevant than any other cultural reference at South Park. Could be mocking right now. That could be a sign of the collapse of society. Or maybe we've just won. So we'll talk about that. Plus, it looks like Stephen Colbert is trying to get fired. Yeah, at least that's what Time magazine is saying. He's basically begging to get fired by attacking his network mercilessly. We'll talk about that and then we've got an interesting story. I covered this on my morning show. It's the Timuran New York City conspiracy theory. 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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Steve Cortez.
Phil Labonte
Thank you.
Steve Cortez
Thrilled to be here. First time, first time. Appreciate it. Thank you.
Tim Pool
Who are you? What do you do?
Steve Cortez
So folks probably know me if they've seen a lot of cable news television over the years. I think I'm one of the only people, I think maybe the only person who's been a paid contributor to the top four cable news networks. So, yes, I actually worked for Fox News as well as cnn. My time at cnn, by the way, was at the request of President Trump. I deserved combat pay because behind enemy lines, it was not fun. I essentially did then what Scott Jennings does now. The reason that Donald Trump asked me to do that is because I worked on his campaigns in 2016 and 2020. So I'm a TV spokesman. I do media messaging, help direct Hispanic outreach for the Trump campaigns in 2016 and 2020, worked for outside groups on behalf of Donald Trump in 2024. And currently I'm doing short documentaries, writing a lot of articles, still doing a lot of TV appearances and shows like yours, and promoting the message, getting ready for 2026 to try to win the midterm. So, I mean, I'm a campaign guy at heart, but care a lot about policy, too.
Phil Labonte
Right on.
Tim Pool
Thanks for hanging out. We got a lot. He's hanging out.
Good evening, everybody. Mr. Cortez, we're really happy to have you on tonight. I've seen a lot of your work before, so really excited to get your expertise on a lot of different topics tonight. I am Tim Kast's White House correspondent and field reporter. Phil, how's it going?
Phil Labonte
How you doing, everybody? My name is Phil labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.
Tim Pool
Here's the news. I call it news, but sure. We got this from the post Millennial. South park features Cartman as Charlie Kirk in a new episode. And Charlie Kirk has changed his profile picture to Eric Cartman. This is amazing. This is. It is crazy to see that CBS is spending 1.5. What is it, $1.5 billion on this. So that 1.5 billion, $30 million per episode. And who is their target? It's obviously Donald Trump. He's the president. But for Charlie Kirk. Congratulations, man. You made it. It's wild because I'm pretty sure south park is older than Charlie is. Yeah.
Steve Cortez
By the way. So a huge win for Charlie Kirk. Chicago boy like we are. We love to see Chicago boys do well, but more importantly for the country, you know, I think the point is here, you're right. We are winning the culture war. Right. When South park park feels that they need to mock a show host and a, and a campaign operative, albeit a super important one like Charlie Kirk. Also notable cbs. Let's remember CBS had to pay a significant settlement to Donald Trump. I think a huge, huge win for accountability. I think one thing Trump is bringing in the second term is accountability. Well, there's accountability for media, whether it's accountability for people who perpetrated the Russia hoax, but accountability. You know, so many Americans have been so frustrated because we've been told lies time and again and just told you had to accept it and you have to pretend it's the truth. Well, we're done with that. And Trump's the leader of that counter revolution of saying no. There will be revelations, there will be transparency and there's gonna be accountability.
Phil Labonte
So I'm interested. I want to push back on that idea that the right is winning and only because I feel like the MAGA.
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Phil Labonte
Is not just the right. So what would you say to someone that said maybe the right isn't winning, but the left is losing? The left has lost a lot of people that used to be that the normie Democrats are leaving the left en masse. And you've got a lot of people that were, you know, democrats in the 90s that actually kind of created and started the magic coalition. So what would you say to that?
Steve Cortez
No, listen, I think it's both, right? And to me, like, it doesn't have to be either. I don't think it has to be binary. It can be both. And clearly the Democrats have become so radicalized in the 2000 and 20s that they are totally inhospitable and unwelcoming to normal people. And I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that it's so. It's one of the key reasons that they've lost the working class. It's not just about the economy that's key, but it's also cultural issues. Right? I mean, a lot of working class people are highly religious. They believe, for example, that there's two sexes. I mean, go figure. They don't like the Democratic Party that is obsessed with pronouns and forcing gender ideology and other crazy Marxist ideas down their throats.
Phil Labonte
35 approval rating, like record low, I think speaks to that.
Steve Cortez
Yeah, all time low. Now, not all of them are MAGA populist. Right. People. Right. Some of them are though, too. And some of them are also. It's not just the negative of being repelled by the Democrat Party. They're also attracted to a vision of muscular populist nationalism. Right. And I believe that that's why right now, for example, in polling, and I do a lot of polling, Trump's best issue by a lot is immigration. It's where the media attacks him the most.
Tim Pool
Right.
Steve Cortez
And they think they're going to make hay. And, and yet it's actually his strongest issue because guess what? Controlling the border doesn't just make sense for our national security and our street safety. It's a huge economic issue. Working class people know they're. They're having to endure unjust unlawful competition in the labor market from millions and millions of illegals, and they've had enough of it.
Tim Pool
I think one of the things that Democrats are particularly shocked by, and maybe you could speak to a little bit more on this, is that Hispanics seem to be not as unsympathetic towards other Hispanics being deported, that maybe Democrats would have thought so in the past. Democrats thought immediately if Trump were to increase funding for ICE and increase deportation numbers, that this would harm him with those communities. Maybe. Can you speak on that? As I understand you did Hispanic outreach on the. One of the Trump campaigns.
Steve Cortez
Yes, yeah, actually both in 2016 and 2020. No, I think this is one of the most amazing stories of the populist right movement, of the MAGA movement, is Hispanics coming en masse to the political right. And I think it's a lasting movement. But you know, to that point of the sort of. Let me give the evidence. Last November, Trump nearly won Hispanics. We know this from the Pew validated voter survey. He did win Hispanic men. He won Hispanic men nationwide in the key areas. He won the overall Hispanic vote, like South Texas, a place that used to be overwhelmingly Democratic. Starr county, for example, which is 97 Hispanic. Most Hispanic county in America on the U. S. Mexico border. Hillary Clinton won it by 60%. 6, 0 back in 2016. Trump won it by 16 this time. I mean, that's a mammoth move in just three cycles. And his signature issue is immigration. You know, so to your point or your question about, you know, are Hispanics soft on the border? No, they, they actually believe in, in again, a muscular vision of sovereignty. They know that it protects their jobs or street safety. And by the way, down there in Star county, one of the things I heard, I made a documentary down there, I heard time and again everyone has a friend or relative that works for Customs and border patrol down there because it's almost. It's the most Hispanic agency of the federal government.
Tim Pool
What do you think then caused that huge swing among Hispanics then?
If.
I don't know if you think it was immigration, is there a particular issue that you think Democrats just absolutely dropped the ball on to getting to reaching out to these voters with it was.
Steve Cortez
It was cultural radicalism, cultural liberalism from the left. So that was the sort of negative force draining away Hispanic support for the Democrat party, which traditionally was super strong. And then, and then on the positive side, it was this vision that we will make life better for workers. It was a priority on workers because Hispanic men, for example, highest workforce participation rate of any group in America. Something we should be really proud of. The most entrepreneurial demographic in America, we love to start new businesses. And Donald Trump came along and said, I am going to make working class people the priority. I'm going to prioritize small business. And by the way, he didn't just say it, he delivered. In his first term, 2019, by any metric was the greatest year for workers in all of American history. Unfortunately, the COVID panic totally interrupted that progress. But 2019 is when we saw worker pay soar above inflation, meaning real wages accelerated. And the people who benefited the most were Hispanics, blacks, small business owners, all thrived. And so we've built this broad MAGA coalition. Now, that's multiracial, multi ethnicity, you know, and even geographically spread out right to the point where Trump was able to win the popular vote based on this vision. So now it's his job and our job to deliver on that promise again in the second term.
Tim Pool
And now it looks like south park is targeting the independent media space. It's targeting the coalitions that helped Donald Trump get elected. Fascinating that Charlie Kirk, with his campus outreach is now a focal point for South Park.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
I'm curious what you think it means, you know, aside from all the obvious general stuff. We had all these victories. Colbert gets canceled.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
$30 million an episode gets given to south park, and they immediately say, okay, we got to go after Charlie Kirk. We got to go after Donald Trump. Sounds to me like the anti Trump machine that was spending the equivalent of one WNBA per year. That's what Sam Tripoli calls it. He calls it 1.1wnbap per year to fund Colbert's show. And they said, we're not going to lose that money. What's 40 to 50 million dollars?
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
They give 1.5 billion to South Park. So I don't, I don't know how much south. How much money south park is making. I can't imagine that it's making. It's making a lot more than Colbert's. Be real.
Steve Cortez
Sure.
Tim Pool
But to cover the cost of $1.5 billion sounds to me like they said go after the right and do it in a non woke way. Because woke is broken. Woke isn't working.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
It seems like with the Sydney Sweeney ad, you know, they're realizing, okay, if we want to win power back, we got to get rid of this weird hall monitor garbage. Right. And try and be edgy again. So they're trying to now make the right once again, the butt of the jokes. What do you get? You guys agree?
I think being featured on south park is a form of respect. Even if they are insulting you. So to even be mentioned, I think is a form of respect. It's not other, you know, influencers or I don't know what we want to call Charlie Kirk, political commentator. Getting references.
Charlie. Probably the most prominent conservative in the country right now.
Phil Labonte
Look, you don't get on. You don't get on south park if you are irrelevant.
Steve Cortez
Right, right. If.
Phil Labonte
If you're not actually relevant to the culture, whether you're getting hate or, you know, get. Especially when it's, you know, politically charged, you're going to get hate from the left. That's. That comes with the territory. And, and south park isn't going to take the time to not only put you on the show, but make Cartman the guy that's, you know, playing you in the show. Make Cart like Cartman, the. One of the most important characters.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Phil Labonte
Generally, Cartman's looked at as the guy with the bad opinions, but even still, he's one of. He's probably the funniest guy on, On south park because he's the guy with the bad opinions. So, yeah, it's. Whether you consider it a sign of respect or not, it just shows that Charlie's actually really, you know, hit a. Hit a chord with the, with the, with the, with pop culture.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Charlie is in fact older than South Park. I didn't realize he's 31. Oh, yeah. What? I thought he was in his late 20s.
Steve Cortez
But it's, it's a great point, you know, because in, in politics, you know, I'm a messaging guy. Right. A media guy. In politics, to be ignored is death. Right. So being attacked can be very powerful. And it's smart of Charlie, by the way, to embrace it. To say, heck yes. Yeah, I'm Carmen. I'll make it my profile pick. Run toward it and, and revel in it.
Tim Pool
That's why I say this is, this is cultural victory. Yeah. The fact that for the longest time they were heavily criticizing independent media or just treating it as irrelevant. They were trying to just act like it was all corporate press. Now they're starting to recognize the real threat to their system is Charlie Kirk. It's independent media. And so the guys here are telling me that we're gonna be made fun of by them at some point. I'm like, I don't think so. I don't know that we're that relevant.
Phil Labonte
Fingers crossed.
Tim Pool
Fingers crossed.
Steve Cortez
Goals.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
You know, but.
Tim Pool
But I did always wonder about that because, you know, watching Family Guy or South park or these other shows, they don't really talk about Rogan. Right. Clearly one of the most influential guys, if not one of the most influential in politics. Whether that's intention or not, they don't, they don't make it the butt of their jokes. They still talk about late night tv. It's funny when you watch these shows and they'll make Fun of Colbert or Kimmel. And it's like those guys get a couple hundred thousand hits. So I'm wondering. We'll see, I guess.
Can I say one, one last thing on this, though? I do have an inkling that we are being trolled. Matt Stone and Trey Parker have a reputation for, like, making episodes like a week out or six days out from being able to air. And they also said at Comic Con that, like, the last promo that they made was just a bunch of random fake cutscenes that they split splice together because they didn't have enough time to create the actual episode. So, like, in the past, they've always waited for, like, the deadlines to do this. And it did look just like a random bunch of BS cutscenes thrown together at the same time. I don't know who's writing whose coattails because they definitely knew that this would go viral on the political Right. So we'll see if the episode ever comes out. I just wanted to add that in there in case we are getting trolls.
So here's what I want to mention. Did you guys know that there's never been a single episode of south park targeting Joe Biden or Kamala Harris?
I wasn't really irrelevant.
Joe Biden was vice president for eight years, and he was president for four, and south park did not ever mock Biden or Harris. And according to social media reports I asked ChatGPT, it says the creators opted not to target Harris in the 2024 cycle. Wow. Funny. How about that?
Steve Cortez
Well, and in both cases, I mean, so much to make fun of, right? I mean, so much material there. I mean, in terms of Biden, his stumbling around, right? The clear cognitive issues, and it's not like, oh, they were trying to be. They thought that was mean, right? They have no problem being mean. And with Kamala, her word salads, right? All rumors about her drinking, I mean, there's so many things that he could do that they could do, right? To dive in and. And be really funny in. In. In castigating these two. And the fact that they chose not to is pretty telling, right?
Tim Pool
But I'm a detriment. Like, what's worse as a politician to be hated or unknown and to be unknown, as you mentioned.
That's why I'm saying it's funny because, you know, everybody's favorite, Sam Cedar and all these liberals are like Tim Pool having a meltdown over South Park. I was like, I actually praise that. I said they were funny. I just said that the jokes were the jokes. They chose to go with were like C minus jokes.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
They do this about episode about. I'll give them this, I'll get. Because I, you know, south park does an episode mocking Trump and what's the joke? He's gay and he's with Satan. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure every conservative is going to agree with that message about being gay is being devil worship or satanic and to be mocked. Like the, the idea that the way they make fun of Trump is to make him gay.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
It's like, yeah, okay, okay. Being gay is something made fun of, I guess south park, if that's like they attacked the trans people. Now they're making fun of Trump saying, haha, look, he's gay. And it's like, okay, if, if. All right, like this is what. Think about this for a second. Our culture, the culture war has shifted so dramatically that if it is true that Paramount is trying to be anti Trump in a non edgy way, they, they like the Sydney Sweeney ads. Hilarious. They're basically like, let's just get like a white blonde chick with big boobs and we're going to sell a bunch of, a bunch of merch, a bunch of clothes. It sounds like Paramount was like, okay, hall monitor, anti racist. None of it worked. What do we do? And they're like, you've got to be offensive and edgy. So they've decided the strategy is going to be to make fun of people for being gay, to make fun of trans people. That's why I'm saying it feels like maybe we're not, we have not won the culture war, but we're certainly winning when their attitude is we have to make fun of Trump. How do we do it? Well, we can't call him racist or white supremacists because people don't respond to that, make fun of them for being gay. People don't like that.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
All right, okay.
Steve Cortez
Nature is healing, right? I mean, particularly the Sydney, Sydney Sweeney ad, right? I mean, that tells us like, nature is healing. Okay, we're going back to what we know works. What has worked for time immemorial, right? Like, men love beautiful young women, especially if they're doing something funny, right? I mean, you know, nature is healing. It's happening.
Tim Pool
I'm loving, I'm loving the meltdown too. Let's, let's jump to the story from time because it gets better. Stephen Colbert is practically, practically daring CBS to shut him down early. Yeah, you can say that. Here's the way I'm going to describe it. Stephen Colbert is having what can only be described as one of the most epic temper tantrums ever seen in American public life. I mean, dude, you got canceled. And Time magazine says that he's basically just going nuts on every single episode, going so heavy against his network that he's daring them to shut him down. And I'm like, nice. Having a mental breakdown. Yeah. Like, imagine dedicating 10 years of your life to being on the wrong side of every, every single issue. And then finally the network comes to you and says, you are fired. And not only that, think about it. Colbert goes to his agent and says, what can I do after this? And they're like, nothing.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
Your whole career for 10 years is. TRUMP is bad. That doesn't sell anymore. You are not a brand we can hire. And so he's having a. He's having a. He's having a mental breakdown.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Do you blame him?
Phil Labonte
I mean, look, the, the, his. What was it the, the protest about him had drew like 20 people. I think something like that. The, the. I forget what the name of the protest or whatever was. Drew like 20 people. He doesn't have the audience. And there are two things going on with the Colbert.
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Phil Labonte
First of all, he doesn't have the, he doesn't have a finger on the pulse of what is relevant anymore. Just going after Trump doesn't sell, clearly. But also he's done this in a, in an, in a climate where people don't watch television anymore, they don't watch late night shows. These late, all the late night shows are down. And granted it's down because of the content, but it's also down because Netflix is a thing and Paramount has their own channel and Disney has their own channel and YouTube and all of these other options that people have. If they don't like exactly what you're producing, they're going to go somewhere else. And so in, in this climate to try and, you know, alienate half the population, it's a recipe for disaster. And I think Colbert is just the first one. I think more are going to fall.
Steve Cortez
Yeah. You know, if you look in totality for the first time now, streaming has surpassed linear television. Right. Both broadcast and cable put together that it's been trending that way for a long time. But those lines have crossed. Right. So you know, to your point that he was fighting uphill anyway, but when you fight uphill and you're just a scold and you're not funny at all and you don't even try to be funny in a show that's supposed to be about levity and it's supposed to be sort of a break. Let's have a laugh before you go to bed. I mean, that's traditionally what late night TV was. And it was really unifying in America at one point.
Tim Pool
Right.
Steve Cortez
Sort of the legends of late night, like Johnny Carson, they made fun of politicians occasionally, but they were very bipartisan. Right in their barbs. And, and, and it was great for America and Americans loved it. Now instead, you know, we get this scold who is lecturing America and Kimmel's the same. Right. I mean, unfortunately, you know, that late night mold has become a bunch of lefty nags and nobody likes it and nobody wants to hear that, especially before bedtime. So thankfully it's not working.
Tim Pool
200,000 people in the key demo like it.
Steve Cortez
Yeah, well.
Tim Pool
And nothing. Three million boomers.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
That's the crazy thing. The one age demographic from the real clear politics aggregate that was anti Trump. They went, it was, you know, 20 to 29. It's, you know, 30 to 39. The only decade age bracket was 70 plus. That was anti Trump. Everybody else was pro Trump. And they're watching Colbert.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And that's all they get. It's remarkable. I can't imagine what must be going through the mind of your 75 year old watching Colbert, who's thinking, wow, look how bad Trump is. How could anyone like him? And then Trump wins the popular vote.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
Weird reality.
It's kind of sad because I don't know if I'm the only one here, but I used to like his show like a decade ago, the Colbert Report, before he did the late night show.
It was normal.
I don't know if I'm a sucker here because it was kind of just like a parody of Bill O'Reilly. I don't know what they were. I think that was the angle there. But I thought that was like really rich and funny and like, I don't know, I was very young at the time too. But just to see this complete transformation, to see him be, I don't know, unrecognizable. He, he's a total actor though. And you don't really know what you're getting with this guy. Like, I don't know who the real Stephen Colbert actually is. When we do see him behind the scenes, we see him dancing with Chuck Schumer. So I'm just led to believe that he is a Democrat. He's also a practicing Roman Catholic. And I think he spoke about like significant that of that significance of that.
Phil Labonte
That'S why his work so pro choice.
Tim Pool
Like, I feel like it's so interesting to see the ways that Catholicism manifests in our politics. Because when I hear about Catholics, mostly you think of like the JD Vance types who not too long ago converted. But I feel like the average Catholic in our country is probably closer to Stephen Colbert, frankly, for all I know. Well, to be fair, I don't know.
Steve Cortez
Let me push back on that because I know these numbers cold. As a matter of fact, I just gave a speech on this topic last week in my work for Catholic votes. So Trump carried Catholics by 12% nationally this time and he tied among Catholics against Joe Biden. So one of the key reasons he did not win, that he was not already president in 2020 is because he tied. Now, Joe Biden, of course, presented himself as a Catholic president as a Catholic candidate. I think it's a bunch of baloney. Right. But nevertheless, it worked with a lot of Catholics. Trump won Catholics by plus 8 in 2016 tied in 2020, plus 12 this time. So the reason that he won the national popular vote is Catholics coming his way. Catholics are sort of the swingiest vote and also just a giant cohort. There's over 50 million Catholics in America. So I would say Catholics have moved way more toward Trump than they are toward Colbert.
Tim Pool
But here's a language. Can. Can you be pro choice and be Catholic?
Steve Cortez
No, not legitimately.
Tim Pool
So the point that he's making when he says Catholics are closer to Colbert, they're not Catholics.
People who identify themselves as Catholic, you know, I think we get into, like, murky territory where we're judging. I'm not one to judge if somebody is authentic. And you were, you were careful with your language there, speaking about Joe Biden's religion. You said, like, what was it? Not pretending, but presented. That was the word you use. Presented as Catholic. Do you not believe that? I don't know that he is truly. Because, I mean, I'm even looking at Stephen Colbert when he had the, the cross for, for Ash Tuesday, Ash Wednesday, Wednesday. It is so, like, I feel like the average person who believes themselves to be Catholic in this country is pro choice.
Steve Cortez
Okay, yes. This is an important distinction. So, by the way, those numbers I just gave you are people who identify as Catholic. And that again, that's from the Pew validated voter survey. So that's people who identify as Catholic. Trump was plus 12. Right. That is not any reflection on whether or not they practice what they actually believe. Right. That's not judging their Catholicism. It's just saying, do you identify as Catholic? That's it. Trump won plus 12, one overwhelmingly. If you then break it down to practicing Catholics and say, okay, do you go to church at least twice a month, or do you believe in certain issues? Well, then Trump's percentage is shooting. I mean, he's literally in the 80s or even 90s. You know, then they, they, then they pull and vote a lot more like evangelicals do. You know, frankly. So when you. Yes, there's a big difference between sort of cultural Catholics who identifies Catholic but don't necessarily practice the faith, and then actual practicing Catholics. And they obviously vote very differently. But the point is, when we group them all together, they have massively moved toward Trump, toward America first, and, and by the way, also on immigration, because the Catholic bishops have been very, very anti Trump, very pro illegal migrant. The Catholics in the pews simply don't believe that. I mean, again, just the election last November, but also all the polling shows that. So it's a significant issue and it's a fascinating issue. But when people like Colbert and Joe Biden try to wear their Catholicism on their sleeve, I think believing Catholics recognize immediately that that's just, it's complete hypocrisy. It's not genuine, it's not accurate. And they're trying to do it for either political or media benefits, not from their heart.
Tim Pool
If I could have one follow up on the Catholicism issue because I do think this is really important, how it manifests in our country. And as I understand it, because again, I'm Jewish, so I'm a thousand miles away from this, there seems to be a disconnect between global Catholicism and the Catholic Church. And like those at the top compared to those in America is, I don't know, is there a unique brand? Do you feel as though there's a unique brand of American Catholicism or does it manifest differently than the ways it manifests in South America or even, I don't know, out in Italy at the Vatican and how the Pope speaks about these issues because writ large, as I understand them, very pro immigrant sentiment. And you know, and that's different as I understand American Catholics.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
Believing. Is that manifest? So I don't know, does that make sense there?
Steve Cortez
And yeah, no.
Tim Pool
Observing a real phenomena.
Steve Cortez
No, it's an excellent look when you're talking about a faith with over a billion adherents that's truly global. Of course, there's a massive amount of diversity and complexity and a lot of its geographic. The, the American, practicing American Catholics politically are definitely to the right of most of the hierarchy in Rome. I mean, that's just a fair objective statement to, to, you know, observe. But it's also fascinating that we now have an American Pope. Right. For the first time ever, which I think most American Catholics, most Americans, period, thought was an impossibility, thought could never happen. And he doesn't exactly seem to be right wing or I wouldn't call him conservative, but compared to Francis, massively so. Right. And certainly not anti American in any sense. You know, somebody who came from Chicago, who came from the United States and loves this country. So it's, it's a, it's an interesting moment. And when you have an American Pope and you have at least the potential for J.D. vance, our, our deeply Catholic Vice President, to become the President, United States perhaps. Coming up. It's interesting. There's an American Catholic moment that's pretty historic.
Tim Pool
Catholics have come a long way in our country, maybe because I don't know the, the history of Catholics here. They used to be persecuted here. So Obviously came a long way. Sorry for you with us. We were pivoted hard there, but.
Yep. Anyway, Stephen Colbert, wow. He's crazy, crazy Catholic.
Phil Labonte
Well, I mean he's, he's just certainly not, I don't think he's, I. Look, I mean you were talking about earlier not judging someone, you know, judging what they believe in their heart and stuff. Look, if you're going to say you're a Catholic but you don't do the things the Catholics do, then you're not a Catholic. People should be judged by their works, not by their words. It's very easy to give lip service to whatever it is, you know, to a religion or what have you or to an ideology. But what people do is what they really believe. And if you are voting for people because you think that it's important for abortion to be legal, that is not a Catholic. And I'm not even a Catholic, but it's pretty easy to tell.
Tim Pool
Let's jump to this next story. My friends, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to start off by saying this. Israel, as far as it goes with PR in the United States is cooked. Seth Meyers gets serious in call for US Aid to Gaza if even Trump acknowledged their starvation. It's long past time to act. We are appalled by the unspeakable horrors currently unfolding in Gaza. This coming from Late Night with Seth Meyers. And I don't care what you think about the whole issue. What's fascinating to me is that corporate liberal media activism is anti Israel. Donald Trump is critical of Israel right now. On social media there is a massive spattering of anti Israel commentary on the rise. And I've been saying this for some time now, but with this, this to me is the nail in the coffin for pro Israel sentiment in the United States. I don't see how you recover from corporate left woke left and dissident right all being critical of Israel and the minority faction trying to be pro Israel.
Phil Labonte
I mean, look, the whole like, even if Trump acknowledged their salvation, it kind of fits the leftist narrative about Trump if he's actually Hitler. Siding with Gaza makes more sense than siding with Israel, doesn't it?
Tim Pool
I mean the left siding with Trump is strange.
Phil Labonte
No, I mean this is, this is the point.
Tim Pool
If Trump does it, it's wrong this time. Trump is not wrong. Seth Meyers is agreeing with Donald Trump on the issue of Israel. When that happens and what we're seeing with Gen Z plus, didn't Charlie Kirk do like some sit down with Gen Z guys about Jews and it's I think the, the narrative is there. Yeah, no, this country is. We looked at the Pew Research data. The young. The key demo is anti Israel left and right. And now Trump is actually seeing Seth Meyers agree with him.
Steve Cortez
Yeah. I think where Trump is right now, which I totally understand is he is seriously pro Israel, but he's also very frustrated with Netanyahu, which I think is totally understandable and justifiable at this point. Right. That, that Netanyahu has been, you know, at best a difficult ally lately. And, and I think that's why Trump is where he is now. What you're talking about, though, Tim, with, with Gen Z is, you know, they're, they're not where Trump is. They're actively anti Israel. It's an entirely different point of view and worldview. And I do think, look, if I were Israel, I'd be concerned about this. This because the United States is obviously its most key ally. And when you look at young Americans, they are very disaffected with Israel right now. And I think people like Netanyahu need to ask themselves why and how can they try to change that because they're not only trying to please their own people, but also the United States.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, Israel has done really poorly when it comes to the narrative, you know, the online narrative, kind of whatever you want to call it about the Gaza war or the situation in Gaza. I particularly, or I personally don't put a lot of credibility in things that are coming out of Gaza because I don't trust Hamas and Hamas is the, the authority, still the authority in Gaza, but Israel is definitely, you know, flattened cities in Gaza. So if you're going to, if you're going to initiate a war like that, you have to be prepared to produce propaganda that supports your position in. Israel has not done that. They've, they've really dropped the ball on that.
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Phil Labonte
What do you got to say there?
Steve Cortez
A lot.
Phil Labonte
Come on. I know what you're thinking.
Tim Pool
I think despite media narratives and media spins and, and fake news coming out of Hamas, that the Israelis should not be dissuaded from finishing the job in Gaza.
There's that to do without our money.
With or without our money.
I think not agreed.
And needs to finish the job.
And they'll have to do it without our money. That's the point.
Well, right now they're doing it with our support.
And I'm saying my point is it's gone. There's, there's, I don't see how this sustains itself when Pew Research puts out this data showing 53% of people in the United States have a negative view of Israel. And it is so I don't, I don't know what the right is. It is so extreme that Seth Meyers has said Trump is right. Like when you get liberal late night talk shows being like, wait, Trump's actually right about this. It's like, wow, holy crap.
So like if, if the difference is, you know, good media coverage and your state constantly being at risk and bad media coverage and security for your state, I think Israelis should pick the latter.
It seems as though agreed. And then we stop paying for it. Because when the American people, when the sentiment continues to spoil is the point. Right? When the sentiment continually goes negative, members of Congress are going to be like, I'm not going to be on their side. I'm going to get blasted in my meetings. So I'll just come out against them now when it comes for the vote. Look at aoc. She voted to provide defensive funding for Israel and they attacked her for it. So we are getting very, very close in the next few years to US Congress being like, we are no longer Going to risk our seats in Congress for supporting a foreign country.
I may submit to you that may be true. I think polling on this is fickle. I think we're being manipulated by like, false images that. For example, the New York Times, even. New York Times even came out today and described some of their images as being like, incorrect or putting them, putting them up with misleading information about it. But I think Israel should continue fighting its battles despite that. I think there's been a long history.
I hear you, but you're not addressing what we're talking about.
No, I am.
I said despite the question of whether or not Israel should or shouldn't do something is not the subject.
I think they should do things despite the bad media coverage that they're getting. You're saying that they're losing support in the United States.
My point is that it is now the popular mainstream narrator of the United States at Israel bad.
I don't think that's as true as people in the media. Will you believe.
I'm not making this up. Pew Research, 53% negative view of Israel and getting worse to the point where Seth Meyers is agreeing with Donald Trump. You then changing the subject to Israel should continue. This war has nothing to do with the Conte.
Steve Cortez
No.
Tim Pool
So despite this, this, despite it becoming increasingly partisan of an issue, I think the Israelis should continue to finish their work in Gaza.
In which case I. If your argument is that they're putting up fake images or whatever it may be, that means Israel's losing.
I just don't think that we should be. The Israeli government should be swayed by bad media coverage.
Steve Cortez
Let me ask you this because I fully agree that Israel should do whatever it thinks it needs to do in its national security and its defense of its citizens.
Tim Pool
Right?
Steve Cortez
Absolutely. But the state of Israel has now existed, the modern state of Israel, for 80 years. Should it continue to receive benefits and aid from the United States when the average Israeli lives better than the average American? Right now this is a sophisticated, wealthy country. Aren't they capable now of standing on their own two feet and handling their own security without American charity? Essentially.
Tim Pool
So I'll answer that in a very honest way. So for the past 40 some odd years, we have been significantly supporting the state of Israel. But it's existed the 40 years prior to that without our support, actually from originally support from the ussr. And I will say I will push back against the Israelis are living better than us Americans socialized that we don't have socialized health care in America because socialized health care is actually Bad for people. People don't get good coverage through their socialized medicine. People in Israel, I know we like to say that we don't want. Wait, if I could finish. We. That we don't want Americans dying in Israel. I know you didn't say that, but that's a common sentiment. I feel like it's so ironic given it's one of our only allies that actually has a military draft and actually routinely fights their own battle. People in the military, the navy, in the army in the United States actually respect that of Israelis that they actually do fight their own wars. So we give benefits to a lot of different countries and I think people tend to single out Israel for one reason or another. We currently have 30 some odd Americans sitting as cannon fodder right now in South Korea. Their sole purpose is there to be canon father fodder. The same thing in Germany.
Steve Cortez
I don't know. Why should we go down those countries? Yeah, absolutely.
Tim Pool
No, I mean. Well, I just respond to that by saying I think Americans benefit immensely from both soft and hard power. We are the global shot callers and it's to the benefit of Americans. And I feel like that's. It really embodies the American spirit too. I think American hegemony is good and if American hegemony retracts, it's going to be other communists, Chinese influences or Russian influences or Islamist influences that fills the gap, is my wider perspective.
I think over the past couple of years there's been a narrative battle happening in the United States on the issue largely of Israel. And Israel's been losing and losing. It's been getting beaten, you know, mercilessly in this, in this narrative machine. And that's it. I predicted what, 10 years, especially with Gen Z's view of Israel, there's not going to be any more foreign spending for this country.
I think there's such a contradiction between the far left that hates Israel and the far right that also dislikes Israel because they hate Israel for so many different reasons. The far left in our country largely hates Israel as I understand, because they view Israel and Israelis and Jews as white people and they view the Palestinians as brown and they project their racial biases onto the Israeli conflict as such. And that's really all they see. There's also like this socialist tinge of the far left socialists believing that Jews are our landlords and inherently privileged and then being against Jews writ large for that purpose. And then on the far right they hate Jews for or hate the state of Israel for totally different reasons. They're not projecting any racial, you know, why is.
What about Seth Meyers?
I don't know why Seth Meyers is. I don't even know what he actually said on the issue.
He's. The narrative is that Israel is starving Gazans and so they need humanitarian aid because Israel's cut off their access to food.
Look, I think that Islamists are really good at manipulating impressionable Westerners. I think Hamas knows exactly what they're.
Doing and Israel's really bad at countering it.
No, I think that Hamas is willing to use dead children for their political gain. They actually want more dead children to occur. They want to hide behind these people so when they inevitably do get attacked that they could parade these dead bodies around. I think it's actually disgusting and it might set the stage for future enemies of our country trying to use these tactics. It's, it's.
Sure. But my point is that Israel seemingly is incapable of defending itself from these psyops.
Phil Labonte
Oh.
Tim Pool
I mean if Israel is losing this war right now, then I don't know what, you know, when again we're talking.
About media optics in the United States and we're talking about the President United States agreeing we need food banks set up in Gaza because of what Israel is doing. He says it's fed up with Netanyahu. Seth Meyers agrees with them. The point is they've lost the. You're calling it fake, a fake campaign and propping up dead bodies. So if it's a psyop, they've been defeated.
I think that Islamists are effectively manipulating impressionable Westerners. Yeah. And it's a big issue.
Phil Labonte
You think it's just Islamists?
Tim Pool
I think those are the people in the Middle east who are manipulating those sentiments. Yeah. Very cynically. And I think Western Western liberals are very easily manipulated, frankly.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I do think that, I do think you have a point about Hamas. Like Hamas is not where you should be getting your information about the war in.
Tim Pool
Well, these are just poor brown people that white people are abusing and then they, you know, the self loathing liberals.
Phil Labonte
Hold on, hold on. That's broadly a leftist perspective. That's not so much about the Islamists or Hamas. Hamas globs on to that narrative because it's effective in the West. But if there was another, if they were talking to people that aren't in the west, they just call like, they just call the Jews demons. You know, like if you're talking to cat people in Kazakhstan or whatever. Because there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of places where Israel and Jewish people are, are looked at as the bad guy. I mean, you look at the joke from on the, in Bora Borat, throw the shoe down the well that you sing in the song, like that's something that's, that's, you know, all over the world. And the way that they use the narrative in the US Is one thing, but to them, it's not about, you know, any kind of political or that kind of dynamic at all.
Tim Pool
I want to jump to this. We have breaking news, ladies and gentlemen. When the show first launched, we mentioned there's an 8.0 earthquake near Russia and that there was a tsunami. Tsunami, not a warning at the time, but what do they have it listed as? I forgot the, the issue was it wasn't a warning. But now we've got a tsunami watch for Alaska and they've upgraded the earthquake to an 8.7.
Phil Labonte
It's big.
Tim Pool
So my understanding is an 8.7 is, is exponentially larger than 8.0. Fox Weather says parts of Alaska are under tsunami warnings while the entire US west coast and the state of Hawaii are under tsunami watches after a monster 8.7 earthquake struck off the east coast of Russia. We've got this tweet here from Space Weather News. You know me loving Ben Davidson says after a magnitude 8 earthquake near Kamchatka a few minutes ago, the entire North Pacific is vibrating. Yo, this is crazy. And then of course, this breaking news came in just about 20 minutes ago. USGS has upgraded it to an 8.7. Grock says the magnitude scale is logarithmic. An 8.7 earthquake releases 11 times more energy than an 8 with ground motion roughly five times stronger, making it significantly more destructive, especially for tsunamis and damage in populated areas. So this is, this is absolutely insane. And I hope everybody's paying attention because again, it was a, it was like an alert earlier for Hawaii and now it's a watch and for Alaska it's a warning. So that sounds like they're saying we're seeing it coming.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, well, I mean, the, if it, when it comes to Hawaii, I think it's something like six hours to get from where the epicenter of the earthquake was until Hawaii. So we won't know if there's, you know, significant repercussions in Hawaii, but it will be obviously significantly shorter in Alaska.
Tim Pool
Yeah, you know, so yeah, it was an advisory at first, but it's an upgraded to a warning. So I hope everybody, if you just, if you're in the Aleutians, if you're in the area. Please pay attention.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. And if I, if I understand correctly and I, you know, the chat will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure. But if I understand correctly, watches are when it's possible warning is when they've seen an actual tsunami. So there is one going to the illusions now.
Tim Pool
Let's, let's play this clip. Let's.
Phil Labonte
If you've been with us, here we go. An earthquake. If you've been with us. I was trying to explain this. This animation tells you a whole lot more, but how the plates move, how the sea floor moves, that's going to dictate how much displacement of water there is, how much water is moved, and how big of a tsunami could be generated. We've seen at times. I was trying to think back to when that was. I think it was in the western Caribbean or southern Gulf. We had a fairly high magnitude earthquake. It didn't produce a tsunami because it was a strike slip. It was rock sliding horizontally.
Tim Pool
Oh, is this an old video from the old story?
Phil Labonte
And there's no vertical display displacement of water in that setting. So I was wondering, was this scenario like that? It appears not. This would be more of a normal earthquake fault where some of the rock itself shifted up, some of it shifted down. In that fault, there's the displacement of water and that wave propagates out from where the earthquake.
Tim Pool
So, yeah, that was.
Phil Labonte
I believe this finds its way closer.
Tim Pool
To where that video is from, the Alaska earthquake, not from the current earthquake. But yeah, I don't know. You know, it's not a cultural, political news event that we normally jump into, but I thought it was important considering this is 8.7. Ain't no joke, you know.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's. It's a big, big earthquake though. When I was in Japan in 2011 for the, the Fukushima or the, the earthquake that hit Fukushima, that was a 9.0. And I mean, 20,000 people died in Sendai alone. Never, you know, wow. So it was, it was massive.
Tim Pool
You were in Japan when that went down?
Phil Labonte
I was in Japan in 2011, in March 2011 when that happened.
Tim Pool
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
It's crazy.
Steve Cortez
Was it scary where you were?
Phil Labonte
I was in Tokyo, so where we were, it was about a 5.5, but it shook the whole building. And I mean, we were in a. Probably on the sixth or seventh floor doing soundcheck. Before the show, my tour manager sticks his head in and I'm like, oh, you know, this is crazy. But like, we're in Japan. It's the Ring of fire. They build the, the buildings, you know, to withstand this kind of stuff. I was like, if, if there's a problem, one of the Japanese guys will come and they'll let us know. And just as I was saying that, a Japanese guy came around the corner. He was like, like, we got to.
Tim Pool
Get out of here.
Phil Labonte
And so we all start hauling out and everybody basically filtered out into the, you know, into the street, and we're all kind of standing around for, I don't know, a couple hours. We were, we had just maybe an hour or so before, hour and a half, something like that, gotten off the bullet train and we heard that the bullet train derailed and a lot of people on, on that particular train died and stuff. And so this, so we really, really.
Tim Pool
This is big. Actually, this earthquake may be the 8th or 9th largest earthquake in recorded history. Yeah. Wow.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Tim Pool
I mean, so the 10th biggest is an 8.6 in 2012, part of a lesser known cluster of large Sumatra events. Number nine is Assam, Tibet, massive Himalayan region quake. It was an 8.6 or 8.7, so. And 8, Rat island in the Aleutians in 1965 was an 8.7. So this ties for 8th, 8th biggest earthquake in recorded history. That's crazy.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's, it's no joke that an 8.7 is.
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Tim Pool
Hope everybody in Hawaii gets to somewhere safe and follows all local news direction. I hope they are able to get the message despite NPR's defunding.
Yeah, well let's, let's, let's let's jump to the next story here. We've got this from the Post Millennial Shane Samura went up the wrong elevator bank and attempt to target NFL offices in mass shooting. Now, the official narrative has not been determined as to why this man I believe he was he's half black, half Japanese, why he carried out these shootings, though they claim they found a letter in his pocket that said he blamed that he was upset with the NFL. Additionally, there have been some activists that pointed out the address in question. He went to the Blackstone building, was the target of globalize the Intifada activists over the past several years. He didn't go to the NFL floor, he went to the Blackstone floor and he shot and killed an executive with Blackstone and as well as injuring an NFL employee. So the conspiracy theory that we're seeing online is in fact his motivation was the anti Israel protests. His motivation was the growing Intifada protest movement. It was, I mean Zoran Mamdani who has said globalized the intifada. And I'm gonna stress this because everyone gets so partisan on this one. I'm not saying this to be pro or anti, I don't care. The point is there's a question as to whether or not it makes more sense that this guy was blaming the NFL who he's never interacted with or if he was going to Blackstone Targeting Blackstone for financial activist reasons or for Israeli activist reasons. And I'll give you a few examples. The New York Times published this in May. May 6, Blackstone president donates 125 million to Israeli medical school, the largest in Tel Aviv University history. And one of the individuals who was killed, a Jewish philanthropist, Wesley Lapatner, 43, was named as a victim. Now, it is true that an NFL employee was seriously injured and is critical. Online, there's speculation that the true motivation was the anti Israel sentiment. I'm curious what you guys think. I'll start off just by saying I was talking to my wife about it and she was like, so what do you think happened? And I'm like, I don't know of any large movements against the NFL to take weapons and go to their offices and hurt them. So it's strange that a crazy person would do that. But it's. If they were to come out and say his motivation was critic was Israel criticism or like, you know, Israel genocide or intifada, we'd go, of course, because of the wave of protest that we had. The two embassy employees who were killed already. That lines up perfectly with the actions that he took. The NFL one does not.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, the. All the information that I've seen was that he was mentally ill, that it was. He had cte. Those things are the, The. The actual reasons that I've, that I've seen. So I don't think that this was. You know, obviously anytime someone goes and does a mass shooting, you're. You're questioning their attachment to reality. But this seems pretty clear that it wasn't motivated by any kind of political savage, like, pardon me, how is it clear? Because he actually wrote out what he was actually.
Steve Cortez
Yeah, according to the reporting, he blamed the NFL for his CTE because he played football. Now, he also played two years of high school football. Okay, So, I mean, that's a ludicrous notion. But if he's mentally ill, maybe he believes that. Right.
Tim Pool
I mean, believe that there was actually a note in his pocket that said, I blame the other.
Steve Cortez
Right. We don't know clearly. Right.
Tim Pool
I'm just let me know.
Steve Cortez
Why does he need that cover then, effectively, if they believe that he actually.
Phil Labonte
Internet.
Tim Pool
So, you know, I'm leaning towards crazy people do crazy things, you know. However, the online theorists, and I want to stress this too, because they haven't released an official motive. This is not a formalized declaration by law enforcement. Eric Adams just said they found a note in his pocket that says, you can't go up against the NFL or whatever. But the theory is this guy was directly targeting Blackstone. A powerful financial organization with investments in tons of corporations that has been routinely called out for jacking up the price of homes is one of the largest global holdings of real estate. The offices that this man went to was Blackstone and a real estate holding office. And the woman that he shot was part of their real estate investment group. When you look at all of the, all of the pieces to the theory about this being targeting Blackstone, the pieces, there's a lot, there's a lot of okay that makes sense. When you look at NFL, it's like the only explanation is he was crazy. And quite possibly true. Quite possibly true. The argument is that if they were to come out and say this guy was motivated by globalized the intifada one it's damaging to Zorran Mamdani over that whole fiasco because he refused to denounce it. And there is fears that it would launch copycats because of the massive online sentiment against Israel and Jews right now.
Now we are in the age of vigilante justice because the information from the left but writ large, we're in the era of vigilante justice. People feel confident shooting at healthcare CEOs or Pennsylvania governors or Minneapolis politicians or whatnot. And it's kind of a choose your own narrative here. You could make this story whatever you want it to be. There's so many different angles where you could say there's so many different interests at play. The NFL definitely doesn't want us to talk about how CTE is common throughout football players and like banging your head against one another probably isn't the healthiest thing to do. And that that's coming from a former JV football player. And like, I don't know, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to to tell me that hey, if we bang our heads together really has hard and fast and repetitively that it could probably scramble your brains a little bit politically. It would be damaging for the globalize the intifada people. It could just be. I mean it's pick your conspiracy. It could be the FBI just sent somebody in to try to make some more anti gun legislation. So it's really difficult.
Yeah. But but let me first. The reason why I think this is worth discussing is that we don't know his motivation.
Well, it's allegedly he had an alleged.
No, there is no official formal declaration of motivation. The law. Law enforcement has not come out. This is what I find fascinating is you guys are Citing media reports from unnamed sources that.
Phil Labonte
I mean, I'm citing Meteor. I'm sorry, citing the stuff that I've read. I mean, that's just as. It's just as likely as, like, that he might be a pro Palestine guy.
Tim Pool
Sure. And my point is, you know, you said it seems likely that he was motivated by the NFL. It's like they haven't, they haven't released his motive yet.
Phil Labonte
I said seems likely because of the fact that I've seen stuff that there was a. There was a.
Tim Pool
So let's talk.
Phil Labonte
That's. That's like that to me, seems likely because he went to go to the NFL.
Tim Pool
He didn't, though.
So here's my issue. A guy shows up to Blackstone's building, kills a Blackstone executive, goes to Blackstone's real estate floor, shoots other. Other shoots at people on Blackstone's floor. And then some unnamed sources say he was mad at football. And everyone's like, that explains it. And I'm like, wait, wait, hold on. What's going on here? A guy went to a Blackstone office, killed a Blackstone executive, got in an elevator up to the Blackstone 32nd and 33rd floors, was shooting at employees of their real estate holdings division. And then the media launched these unnamed sources, and I'm being told that it's the NFL. And I'm like, what law enforcement hasn't put out as motivation yet? If the cops come out and say, we found evidence, conclude that this guy was just a crazy guy with CTE who was targeting the NFL, I'll say, yeah, okay. I mean, I'll lean a little bit in that direction because that's at least what we're hearing somewhat. But if we look at what it was reported that he did, he killed the Blackstone executive in the Blackstone building on the. And then went to the Blackstone floor targeting Blackstone employees.
According to Eric Adams, it was. He mistakenly went to the right.
And the. And the source of that was. Was two unnamed sources speaking with the press on the condition of anonymity.
Steve Cortez
By the way, though, too, if the narrative is that it's anti football and that football is dangerous, the corporate media is grabbing onto that immediately. Why? Because they hate football? Because football is uniquely masculine and American. No, really. I mean, there's a massive movement among those types, ruling class people, including the corporate media, against playing football in this country. So if they think they can grab onto that, whether it's true or not, they're going to run with that narrative. And I. And by the way, I will certainly defend football. Football is very worthy. I love American young men playing.
Tim Pool
But it is violent and dangerous and can cause cte.
Steve Cortez
Yes, all of that is true. Playing high school. There's no significant data that playing high school football leads to. In any significant measure to cte. I mean, that is also, you know, demonstrably too. But are there risks? Of course. Just as there's risk to playing hockey, there's risk to playing soccer to your head by heading the soccer ball. Right. It's actually quite dangerous for your brain. So there's risk to all sports. But I'm getting back to this case. Let me ask you this, Tim. What would be the motivation of the NYPD on the scene to do something that is defensive of Mamdani? In other words, why would they want to cover for a. A possible incoming mayor who the police hate?
Tim Pool
They wouldn't.
Steve Cortez
Okay, so who would then?
Tim Pool
Unnamed sources talking to the press claimed he had a note in his pocket.
Steve Cortez
Oh, okay, so you're saying that whole part is just manufactured.
Tim Pool
No, I'm saying I have the. When the media comes out, it's. Here's what I'm saying. I'm saying this. I have no idea what his motivation was. What we know is that a guy went to a Blackstone office, shot a Blackstone executive responsible for their. Who was in their real estate division, went up to a real estate holdings floor with, which includes Blackstone, and again shot people. And then we got from the. From the corporate press that unnamed sources said he had a note in his pocket blaming the NFL. And I got a chat full of people right now saying, yep, that's true. So you guys in the chat right now, just saying the mainstream media's unnamed sources are correct. You're right. Trump is a Russian agent. Are you kidding me? So when. When we get this story and I wake up in the morning, I look at the news and it says he had a note in his pocket. Blame the NFL. I went, wow, that's crazy. And then I read it and said, two unnamed sources say. And I was like, okay. And then as of right now, law enforcement has not released a motive. So where did this narrative come from? And why is everyone latched onto it as if it's a fact?
Steve Cortez
Well, and what I'm telling you is that the corporate media, if that is manufactured, in fact, the corporate media would concoct that in a second because they would say, wow, he. He shot someone from the NFL, Right. Why would he hate the NFL? Let's say he has CTE because we Hate football because we want football to go away. I'm saying I don't think that's an implausible motivation if in fact, it's a manufactured story.
Tim Pool
So my question for y' all in chat watching right now is with law enforcement saying there's no. There's no evidence of an official motive. Do you believe the media narrative that provide, provided by unnamed sources and reiterated by Mary Eric Adams that it was a guy who never associated with the NFL? And I'm not saying that facetiously. It's a guy who played a couple years of high school football and then went to the NFL offices, shot a Blackstone executive, got in the wrong elevator, and then took his own life accidentally going to the Blackstone offices. Is that what happened? Honest question.
Well, I mean, according to the media, so far, from the reports that we have, it seems more or less that we don't.
He accidentally went to black to a.
Steve Cortez
Larger point that none of us believe the official narrative we're going to be told. Right. I mean, and that's. That's the sad place of American society. And unfortunately.
Tim Pool
Pick your own narrative.
Steve Cortez
Well, but unfortunately, it's because so much law enforcement, particularly federal law enforcement, I love cops, love beat cops on the street, but federal law enforcement has been so corrupted and poisoned and politicized that we simply don't believe these institutions that we formerly, you know, held in high regard, particularly the FBI. So, I mean, I think this is what we're talking about here is unfortunately reflective of that larger reality of, you know, just disbelief of whatever we're told. Is it true? I don't know. Even if it's official now, in this case, too, we're talking about reporting, which is, you know, a whole other level of. Of natural skepticism, which is very proper. But, you know, the. The point is, for example, how many people do you know who believe that we know the full truth about the mass Las Vegas shooting? Right.
Tim Pool
Oh, we never got right.
Steve Cortez
It seems no one believes that we know the full truth. No one that I know.
Phil Labonte
That's because that many guns are heavy.
Steve Cortez
Yeah. Well, I'm just saying there's all kinds of reasons. But the point is, I don't know anyone who believes, you know, here's. Here's where.
Tim Pool
Let me tell you where I'm coming from. I was. I was out yesterday. Obviously, I was. I was sick. And I'm watching the news, and the initial reporting is a guy walks into the Blackstone building, shoots and kills a Blackstone executive, goes up to the Real Estate holdings office and is targeting more people. And then I was like, holy crap. Remember how we've been talking about for years how Blackstone is buying up houses? According to Fast Company, one year, a year and a half ago, Blackstone is back to being a top player in the housing market. Here are the numbers. A story that we've covered routinely was how Blackstone would there be, like, a young Gen Z couple trying to buy a house, and then all of a sudden, the seller would say, Blackstone came in 20% above market, and they'd sell it, driving the prices way up and keeping young people out of the market. And what would we say the whole time? You will own nothing and you will be happy. That was the agenda. So then when I hear a story about a guy going to the Blackstone offices again, killing a Blackstone executive who specifically worked in real estate, then going up to a real estate office, which also. It was a real estate company, and it was Blackstone, I was like, holy crap. It sounds like this lines up with what we'd expect from online activism, the conspiracy community. And then the morning when I woke up, they said, nah, he was just a guy who thought the NFL was bad and he accidentally went to the wrong floor. And I was like, well, that doesn't add up to anything. I mean, that doesn't fit any. Any online activism communities. How was he radicalized into deciding to shoot NFL people? Why would I assume that's true? And then the reports were that it was unnamed sources throughout the day, however, everybody's been pushing that narrative, assuming that's the case. And as of right now, law enforcement has not stated they know of what his motivation was. So I find it interesting that there's this split, and people are really trying hard to say, nah, nah, it's just big football is dangerous. And there's. I just. I find it hard to believe that, you know, when you look at the mass shootings we've had in the past, the motivations line up in some degree. So you had the transgender lunatic, went to a Catholic school and targeted Christians, blamed them, and wrote. Wrote this stuff down. You had. You know, obviously, if you go back further, you have Orlando, you have the shooting of the congressional baseball game. It seems to be that the motivations line up with something tangible in politics and culture. The NFL. You can't go up against the NFL. I mean, I just find the whole thing to be very weird, to be honest. And again, I'll stress this when. When law enforcement comes out and says, no, no, we. We do believe, based on the evidence this is the official narrative, the official motivation. I'll say, okay, sure y' all are right. But I'm just stressing right now, there's no official motivation as per law enforcement, only these unnamed media reports. And there are people desperately in the chat right now saying it was the NFL. And I'm like, oh, okay. I gotta be honest, I've never heard of this before in my life. Have you guys? That like the NFL is running a conspiracy to destroy people who suffer from cte?
Steve Cortez
Well, there is a significant propaganda campaign against football. Yes. And really it's particularly been pronounced since that Will Smith movie. Concussion. Right. But try to scare people into believing that playing football means, you know, you're.
Tim Pool
Going, yeah, but my point specifically is, I mean this sincerely. Is there a conspiracy theory or not a conspiracy theory, but like a contention about NFL targeting people suffering from CTE in their high schools to stop them from hurting the reputation of football?
I guess the idea would be that the NFL didn't properly talk about the risk that playing football can bring, which includes cte. Would be the argument from the he.
Didn'T associate with the NFL or play with the NFL or do anything related to the NFL.
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Tim Pool
Just.
Phil Labonte
Well, I mean, look, my, my money's on. And this is just an opinion, but I think that it's just mental illness that he had a psychotic break and that he's, he imagined that the situation was as he's said. So that's just. Again, this is only based on the things that I know and it's only an opinion. It's not that I have.
Tim Pool
Someone helped him get, get. You know, I don't. Eric Adams gave a press conference where he said one of the components of the rifle that he used was purchased for him by somebody else in Nevada. I'm not sure who could be. And that he had a permit in Vegas in Nevada, and that's where he was able to acquire the weapon and then came to New York. I also find it just strange that someone from Nevada would plan this whole thing out and then go to the wrong floor. Maybe.
I mean, maybe I will say Manhattan buildings are very confusing. And in many of these big towers there are dozens of different businesses. I would be surprised if it's only Blackstone in the NFL in that building.
Yeah, there's like K, km, PGM or something like that. Some other.
If a building has 50 floors, that.
Steve Cortez
Building is a full city block.
Tim Pool
So there's tons of different businesses in there. I want to believe that we aren't seeing more targeted killings of Jews. She was a UJA president or she worked at a Jewish foundation too. And I don't know. I hope that's not true. I hope we're not seeing the normalization of this in New York City, in Manhattan, in Pennsylvania, in too many places to name.
When I, when I look on the surface, there's like I mentioned the shooting in Tennessee motivated by woke leftism, and they withheld the information. Is it, and I'm asking you guys sincerely, when we get these mass shootings, do they typically release the motivation on like day one, like within 10, within three or four hours of.
Phil Labonte
Honestly, it depends on what the, what the motivation is. Roof it was right away, right?
Tim Pool
If it's, if it's, if it's a right wing thing, they release it, but it's a left wing thing, they don't.
Steve Cortez
That's been the practice.
Tim Pool
If they chant something at the shooting, then they'll talk about it sooner. If there's a manifesto, sometimes they'll try to withhold it and withhold the Details, I feel like, for as long as they can.
Unless it's right wing.
Unless it's right wing, or unless the shooter did something during the shooting to make it obvious. So I feel like it's a case.
They were saying it was a white male at first, too. Yeah.
Steve Cortez
By the way, regarding that. That horrific. At Covenant School, the only reason that finally we did get full transparency is because a local radio host, Michael Patrick Leahy, sued for it, thankfully, successfully sued, and said this must be public, by the way. There was no law enforcement was trying to claim that they needed it to keep it private to investigate. Well, the shooter was dead, all right?
Tim Pool
So there's.
Steve Cortez
There's nothing to investigate in terms of. They don't prepare for trial. They don't have to worry about evidence. It should have been released immediately. The only reason it wasn't is because in a very conservative state of Tennessee, where I live, the one liberal bastion is Nashville. Right. And the Nashville authorities simply did not want it out that this was a trans person upset at her Christian school that didn't approve of her lifestyle choices, and she went back there and slaughtered children because of it. And that wasn't a ruling class narrative. That is approved and that can get out. Right. Had it been a situation like this, the terrible situation in South Carolina, Dylan Roof killing black people in a black church. It's out immediately.
Tim Pool
He also lived.
So he kind of said that. Exactly what he did and why. So if that's the case, then you'll.
Phil Labonte
Know pretty quickly as well.
Tim Pool
This is interesting because someone super chatted this. They said I wasn't. I got to be honest, last night I was in bed watching Fox News literally all day. That's all I was doing. Gotta love Fox. And it's time to stand says, what about the woman on video in New York who said the shooter was screaming, free Palestine. And so I looked it up, and even Laura Loomer tweeted, yes, we get it. Free Palestine is a mental disorder. As if that was it. Witnesses say the suspect yelled, free Palestine. I'm not the shooter, while armed with an AR15. And. And. And this is a wrong person. There's a. There's there's images of NYPD arresting a guy, and it's a guy. He's like, I'm not the shooter. So I think people can. I. I think the NYPD arrested a guy, but it was not the shooter who. And. And the guy who wasn't the shooter who got arrested did yell, free Palestine. And now people think the shooter was yelling, free Palestine. I think that's what happened. Just based off what I'm looking at right now on on X, it looks like initially the cops arrested a different person and people thought he was the shooter. I don't know, man.
Phil Labonte
Y' all decide, I guess in. In the IRL Slack, there's a link. There's a tsunami hitting Russia right now.
Steve Cortez
Wow.
Tim Pool
Wait, the tsunami has hit Servo.
Phil Labonte
Kurt Kurlisk.
Tim Pool
Wow. There it is. All right, man. I hope everybody in Alaska is paying attention and safe.
Phil Labonte
Get to high ground.
Tim Pool
That is crazy. Wow. Yep. And people don't understand. They. They think, you know, for movie tsunamis are these gigantic waves that come over your city. It's basically just the whole water levels rising rapidly and flowing in and what's gonna get you. You know what, man? I've seen more than enough videos. I know most of you have where people try to walk across streams.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Tim Pool
You ever watch those videos? And they go, just flip. They don't understand fluid dynamics and the amount of force on your. On your feet. Not to mention it's slippery. Yep, it's slippery. We got to jump to this story. We have to. This is the biggest news in the country. WNBA star loses wig during game. As game stopped due to fan reaction, they also kicked the guy out and. Are. Are you kidding me? Are you.
Are you.
Phil Labonte
Are you kidding me about it or.
Tim Pool
For making fun of her? I was just. I'm watching the clip, and the player's wig comes off, and she runs out, and they stop the game, and I'm like, just shut the whole. Shut it down. No more wnba. You're not allowed to play. If you have to pause the pause. Timeout. Wig accident. That's the WNBA for you. I don't understand why anybody is acting like the WNBA matters. Why are they trying to make it a thing?
Steve Cortez
Everything about this league is just patently absurd. And I think perhaps the most absurd part is the players and others trying to protest that they're not paid enough when the league is 100% subsidized by the men. Right. And that's supposed to be a win for feminism to say we have a captive league that can only exist by the. By the. By the benefits of men. Right. And by the charity of men.
Tim Pool
Right.
Steve Cortez
I mean, that's absurd. It's the opposite of feminism.
Phil Labonte
And not only that. I mean, the women that are saying, oh, hey, you know, pay us what we're worth, etc.
Tim Pool
The.
Phil Labonte
Like, they're. They're totally ignoring that fact and making believe that that isn't the Actual, you know, situation which the economic value is negative.
Steve Cortez
Yeah. Okay. That's what you're actually worth economically. Right.
Tim Pool
I figured it out. It's Juana, man. She ran off when a wig fell off. Because people are going to realize it's a. It's a disgraced former NBA player who's playing in the women's league to try and play ball. But here you can see the player right here. Her wig fell off. There she is, she grabs it and runs off the court.
Phil Labonte
I mean, if this were rejected, get out a men's. Men's game, would there be any situation that you could even think of that resembles this? Yeah, like.
Steve Cortez
Okay, but also, can we talk about the idea of kicking the fan out for laughing about what is clearly an absurd situation? I mean, what's next? You can't boo the opponent. I mean, this is a big part of spectators sports. Right. Is having fun and even to the degree of being kind of mean.
Tim Pool
Right.
Steve Cortez
About the opposite team. And are we now censoring that? Is that now verboten or only in the wnba? I guess there's only one person that laughed.
Tim Pool
So I will say this.
No, I guess this. Someone was like, making fun of her and so they removed him.
Phil Labonte
She deserved. She ran off.
Steve Cortez
Sit in the outfield at the stadium, right, when the. When the other teams in the field, when the Yankees are batting and listen to the crowd mock the players. Right. I mean, it is. It's almost an art form. Right. And it's as crude as could possibly be. I'm not saying that we all should model that behavior, but the point is that's part of sports. Right? It's clearly part of sports. And we're saying you can't even make fun of something that's clearly a really, you know, absurd situation.
Tim Pool
So I'm not particularly compelled or interested in the wnba, but I do think it's a good thing that it exists. I think the worst thing about the wnba, though, is, though, is that it seems as though the players are doing everything within their power to make the league fail. Or most of the players are extremely unlikable. When they have one talented player, everybody on the other teams get jealous of her. There's a ton of envy amongst the league players. They're not. They're very arrogant. They're not open to change. One of the big things that they.
Could take in the Colbert approach on this one, huh?
How so?
Being on the wrong side of a 20 issue.
So just let me finish. There's one thing that there was actually a couple of the players were asked, like, that could change the game to make it a lot more interesting, and that is lowering the rim to allow the women to be able to dunk. One of the things that, again, makes normal men's basketball very interesting.
Maybe like five feet, whatever it may be cut in half.
Eight, nine. Like, I think dunking would completely change the game. Change the game for them. And they're like, no, we want to be like the men. We want to be like the men.
So it's like this ego of bigger ball, too.
Well, they. They use a smaller ball already.
Make the ball bigger.
No, they should make it smaller so it's easier to dunk. Lower the rim, make it easier for them to hit three pointers.
Add. Add more than one ball, and they can juggle them.
Start defending Caitlin Clark. And I mean, I think it's a good thing to have young women to, like, have a sports league that they could potentially, like, look up to. But again, all these players extremely unlikable.
Yeah. The only thing they got going for them is that foxy boxing is live now in Indiana. I'm not getting, like, it's a disgusting league. It's a waste of money. It's laughably pathetic. Pathetic. Timeout. Wig fell off. Oh, what do we. What is this, kindergarten? Oh, my hair. Oh, I can't play no more. And then on top of that, when Caitlin Clark starts making the money for the league, they start beating the crap out of her. It's like, okay, no, still women.
And there's a lot of.
Just get rid of it. You don't deserve to have a WNBA anymore. Why is the NBA paying for this?
Steve Cortez
We would not be talking about this topic tonight if it were not for Caitlin Clark. Like, that's the only reason the NBA. The wnba, was totally ignored before Caitlin Clark. So she made the league relevant, made it controversial, made it into something that Tim cast wants to talk about. But here's the thing. So what do they do to thank her for bringing them? Relevance. They physically assaulted her every chance they got because she happens to be white and straight. Two unforgivable sins, apparently, in the wnb NBA. So, look, I think this league should be thoroughly mocked. I think it's. It's a joke. I think it's bad for our culture. It's bad for our society because it's full of hate. And the hate is condoned and, in fact, sometimes even celebrated.
Phil Labonte
Well, I mean, look, you've got. I mean, it's all women, and women hate each other. So, I mean, they're Going to hate that. That's just part of the dynamic.
Tim Pool
To continue harping on them being so unlikable. I forgot the tall woman who brought pot to frickin Russia.
Steve Cortez
Like, oh, yeah, moron Griner.
Tim Pool
And then Brittney Griner. And then we had to do one of the. Again the. One of the worst trade deals in history. Giving up like an infamous Russian arms dealer. Victor Boot, I believe it was.
Phil Labonte
Very smart woman.
Tim Pool
She need to be smarter than that man. So again, the. The league are making themselves extremely unlikable. But, like, on principle. I think the idea is nice. Like a woman's league on principle. Just it's a new business. I like when businesses thrive and try to empower women. But when it plays out like this.
Right, so what. What do Brittney griner and Bridget McCrone have in common?
Potentially men or. I don't know, allegedly. I'm saying that with so many.
Steve Cortez
As long as we're talking conspiracy theories.
Tim Pool
No, I don't want to get sued because, you know, the McCrones are coming out.
You can't get sued for calling a woman a man.
That you can in France, apparently.
No, they're suing. They're. They're suing her here. And it's going to get tossed out in two seconds. They're going to pay her legal fees. Yep. It's a stupid. Suing Candace Owens because she called Bridget McCrone a man. That's protected speech. Yeah.
Phil Labonte
And everyone knows Bridget McCrone is.
Tim Pool
Eddie, there's. There's. The argument is in court. You'll have to ask what's inherently defamatory about accusing someone of being transgender. And Bridget McCrone is going to have to publicly state being transgender is bad and defamatory because. So it's not going to happen. Look, Brittney Griner's been part of the.
Steve Cortez
Paradox of this case for sure.
Tim Pool
There's allegedly a video of Brittney Griner walking around with no shirt on, and it's a guy. Maybe it's not Brittney Griner. I have no idea. But this is the Internet, so if it's on the Internet, it must be true.
Phil Labonte
Listen to Brittney Griner speak, right, bro?
Tim Pool
Well, there are a lot of butch, masculine women who. I mean. No, she did. I know. What video are you talking about? Without her shirt on? And it did look a little bit odd, but I.
It's a guy.
Phil Labonte
I didn't see the video.
Tim Pool
You think Bridget McCrone is a man?
More importantly, though, I didn't before, but after this lawsuit, I'm like, oh man.
Yeah, she really. Streisand affected that. But if I'm Bridget McCrone, I'm so conflicted on like how to fight back against Kansas.
You don't. He just. Michelle Obama is just like, whatever with.
Steve Cortez
With Macron, by the way.
Tim Pool
No, to be real quick. Sorry. One of the reasons there's a rumor that the reason Michelle Obama refuses to run for president is because they call her a man. Like, could you imagine being like an aging woman and you're like, you're getting old and ugly and then all over the world, millions of people are like, that's a guy that's going to rip at their hearts, you know? So I heard Michelle Obama won't run because of the man comments.
In that case, it's a very effective way to get her to not run.
Indeed it is.
Happy about that?
Yeah. She doesn't want to be in the limelight and get called a man for two years.
Yeah.
Or six.
I struggle with it because what if Bridget McCrone actually is a woman and she's just being merciless, mercilessly slandered by Candace Owens almost baselessly because like, she's repeating some.
What's slander.
Almost slanderous about calling Bridget McCrone a man because she's allegedly a woman.
Right. But what's. What's.
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Tim Pool
Prohibited by law 21 + terms and conditions apply. What's slanderous about it? What's inherently about the gender of. If I said, hey guys, Elad, he's actually got blonde hair. Oh woah. How is it defamatory?
A little bit more complicated than that. Because that would mean that the France is married to a man who's pretending to be a woman.
What's defamatory about that's the question.
That they're lying about her gender.
What's defamatory about it?
To lie about somebody's gender, to imply that they switched genders when they didn't.
Feels is a statement. It's a statement. Now what is defamatory?
They're defaming her.
Let me try this again. Defamation would be like if I said Elad kicks dogs for fun. He goes to parks and kicks dogs. Right? I am, I am, I am striking at your honor and trustworthiness. If I said he has a disease, if he committed a crime, if he, you know, throws he spray paint vandalizes churches, these are defamatory. If I said he once paid a hooker to pee on a bed, that's defamatory. Saying Bridget McCrone is a man. What about that is inherently defamatory? I understand. You keep saying it over and over again. I'm asking you that question because the reality is there's only a conservative answer, which is it is offensive to conservatives to sexual to surgically alter your body. It's considered amoral and it's going to upset your standing in the conservative and religious communities. Is that the argument she wants to make? Because she can. But on the surface, publicly, there is nothing inherently damaging or defamatory about calling a woman a man or a man or woman. It would be no different than if I said you had blonde hair and you dye it.
I think there's a little bit. Something a little bit different there, Tim, because I think she's trying to hurt her public image here and you saying I've been point here.
Let's try this again. What is damaging to Bridget Macron's public image by being a man?
It's implying that she's the opposite gender and a closeted transgender person.
Phil Labonte
I think the only thing that she's.
Tim Pool
Trying to harm her public a lot.
Phil Labonte
I think the only thing that could be said that would be damaging would be implying that she's dishonest. But actually being transgender isn't that. And I think that that's, that's. If you're. That's a big stretch, to be honest.
Tim Pool
Calling someone a liar is not, is not defamation.
Phil Labonte
That's why I said it's a big stretch. But it's not, it technically isn't defamatory to say.
Tim Pool
No. The reality is she's considering it defamatory because Candace hurt her feelings. That's it. It is not defamatory. If someone went online and said, Tim Pool is actually a trans man and has been a woman, you know, his whole life or whatever, a transvestigator, there's nothing defamatory I could do. I. You can't do anything about that. There's, there's, there's just nothing you can do about that. You can literally call someone a white supremacist. You can't sue them. It's not defamation.
We'll see how this plays out in Delaware court. I'm not a lawyer, so you could be right on the definitions.
Oh, bro, I've been involved in so many lawsuits pertaining to this stuff. It's going to get thrown out. The judge is going to. Well, to be honest, the judge could be like, oh, the French president, tell me what to do. But there's no way this survives any meaningful court. There's, there's. Because even if they could prove that Candace knew Bridget McCrone was actually a woman, there's no damages from it. It's not defamation per se, and there's no, there's no, there's no damages. So it's like she knew she was lying, but Bridget McCrone's not been damaged in any meaningful way.
And. Well, do you believe. I mean, the issue is, do you actually believe Candace Owens when, when she's saying this? She staked her so called journalistic reputation on this.
I think Candace owens thinks Bridget McCrone is a man. Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm excited.
I don't, I don't think Michelle Obama is a man, though.
Steve Cortez
I totally understand your logic here. Right. Because you're saying there's, there's obviously an implied value judgment if it is defamatory. But I would also push back and say that to the sensible masses, transgendering is the negative. Right. So to the sensible masses, it is defamatory if it's not true, because that is negative and they do Judge that as being a poor decision.
Tim Pool
It's change. It's not. I think if you said something like Elad appearance defamation is so hard because, like, on the surface, I just don't. There's no way this could be defamatory because you're literally just talking about her looks. You can make an argument that a lot is a sinner. Like, a lot has. That's, that's, that's the point. The only arguments about why it would be defamatory is that she has sinned or something, because to the left, it's a whole net positive.
Steve Cortez
Sure.
Tim Pool
She's come into herself and it should be celebrated and it's prideful.
Steve Cortez
Right.
Tim Pool
So at the bare minimum, it's not, not defamatory. It just is a statement and there's nothing to sue for and she's not been damaged by it. I mean, maybe she'll come out and be like, I was trying to go to a beauty page and they won't let me in because I thought I was a man. I think, I really doubt it.
Damaged here. I, I think because people think that she's a closeted transgender person, believe that she's literally a man, and that harms the reputation of her and her husband to be right.
I, I okay, homosexuals. I'm going to ask you again, just if I said something like, elad kicks dogs, okay, that is a violent action. It is a criminal action. It can cause monetary damages with veterinary bills. If I said Elad is a vandal, that's not defamatory. If I said a lot vandalized a church at this place, it is because I implying you have committed a crime. Crime, in fact, that is defamation per se. To say that Bridget McCrone is a man does none of these things. And it results in no required corrective marketing. There's no damages to be corrected. Half of the people like that she's trans, and half of the people don't. So it's neutral at best. When you say it's reputation damaging, I'm asking you to explain in what way it damages someone, someone's reputation. Again, the only argument would be that it's a sin. In the religious community, it's seen as sinful. In the liberal community, it's seen as prideful. So it's kind of neutral, I guess. Right. It is universally accepted that kicking dogs is bad. So it harms your reputation because people now won't let you near their dogs. You can't go to the local, you know, dog competition or whatever, the dog show that all Makes sense. She's not going to be banned from anywhere. She's not gonna have to spend any money. Is there's just nothing defamatory there.
I guess not. We'll let the courts decide.
Yeah. Yeah. Why are we even talking about this now?
Steve Cortez
From the wnba.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. There we go.
Tim Pool
Right? Right.
Worst deal again, Victor. I can't believe that.
Like the merchant of death, right?
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Should have.
Steve Cortez
Should have led worse than trading away Babe Ruth.
Tim Pool
That's out behind before my time. I don't. What's the. I don't know.
Steve Cortez
The Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the egg.
Tim Pool
Okay. Yeah.
Brittney Griner.
Dumb trade deal. I can't believe she was even dumb enough to bring pot to. To Russia. Nonetheless.
Anyway, let's jump to the story from Newsweek. Ron DeSantis predicts NYC cops will flee to Florida if Zoran Mamdani wins. I don't know about Florida, but Florida is a probably a good choice. What do you guys think? You think if this commie wins, Mayor, the cops are going to flee?
Steve Cortez
Yeah. I mean, and why wouldn't they, by the way? I mean, it's already there.
Tim Pool
Commies, too.
Steve Cortez
No, most cops are not. Clearly in New York.
Tim Pool
I think they are.
Steve Cortez
No, not even in New York. Come on. I mean, most New York cops are salt of the earth, wonderful, patriotic people.
Tim Pool
New York, all the other.
I disagree. I think a lot of the cops in New York are commies.
Steve Cortez
I think a lot of them are. Strongly disagree with that.
Tim Pool
I think. I think a lot of them live in Staten island and hate what the city is. But having, you know, lived in New York for five years and routinely interacted with nypd, I think they're mostly default lib. And default lib is, to be fair, not commie. But when the communists get power and say, go do communist things, they go, okay, boss. Like when they painted Black Lives Matter in front of Trump tower. And then 26 officers were like, you got it, boss. It's an illegal theft of public funds without city council approval. And they're painting a public message on a street which violates federal law, but we're gonna enforce it anyway. And then NYPD started arresting a bunch of people. Or how about when in New York during COVID when they shut down churches and the cops were like, what was that? No more First Amendment. All right, we'll arrest people at the church. That doesn't sound like salt of the earth. That sounds like commie.
Steve Cortez
I will.
Tim Pool
Listen.
Steve Cortez
I will grant you that certainly there are a lot of compliant cops who are. Who are willing to obey against their better judgment, but that doesn't make them communists. Certainly in their mentality.
Tim Pool
When a communist says, shut a church down and the cops says, you, you got a boss? Sounds like a commie to me.
Steve Cortez
I don't believe that they're communists. I will say this, though. I think that it's very telling that the NYPD can't recruit people. Right. That people do not want to join knowing that they're going to be given an impossible mission to try to fight crime when city leadership, if anything, will take the side of the criminals in every, in every judgment call and every occasion where it's, where it's, you know, in any sense, not clear.
Tim Pool
Let me ask you, why do you, why do you think it is that. Why, why do you believe NYPD cops are not communists?
Steve Cortez
Just from knowing so many cops and from, from NYPD cops?
Tim Pool
Yeah, I've.
Steve Cortez
No, I've known enough. Not as many as Chicago, of course, but yeah, I spent a lot of time in Chicago or New York and certainly nypd, But I think in general, beat cops, I'm not talking necessarily about leadership, but in general beat cops overwhelmingly are salt of the earth, patriotic, generally very observantly religious people who do a really hard job and take tremendous risks for public safety. I just, I think they're honorable people on the whole.
Tim Pool
Wouldn't, wouldn't communists hire other communists to be police officers?
Steve Cortez
I mean, sure. Are there infestations of that? Sure, of course there are.
Tim Pool
So, so do you think it was good God fearing men who shut churches down in New York?
Steve Cortez
Clearly not, but I think that how.
Tim Pool
Like where, where were the good cops then to say, hey, you can't shut a church down?
Steve Cortez
I think unfortunately they were intimidated and compliant and probably a lot of them were fooled into believing they were doing something noble. Into believing the Fauci. None sense. And into believing that lockdowns were actually effective and that this was for the good of the people.
Tim Pool
Highlighted the Constitution.
Steve Cortez
I mean, I'm not defending any of it. Right. At that time, contemporaneously, I was one of the loudest voices possible, appointing what was going on. I'm saying a lot of cops probably believe the propaganda, the propaganda from Fauci and others.
Tim Pool
Communist propaganda at this.
Yeah, but.
And then marched in lockstep and enforced it.
Steve Cortez
Right, but well, meaning people can believe lies if they are sold effectively to them. That's my.
Tim Pool
So like the Milgram experiments when they had people believe they were electrocuting the other person and said, don't worry, I'm the authority and I tell you to do it so it's okay. And then they had people on the other side screaming and begging for it to stop. And the doctor's like, no, you keep going. And they would, they would just keep doing it. I think that's what communism root stems from. So when you have a police department, I'll say this. The state troopers, a lot of NYPD did refuse to shut down bars in Staten island and NYPD refused shut down a bar. So they'd bring in state troopers. But when it comes to the enforcement of communism, it largely has to be a Milgram compliant group of cops. And so if you have. At the highest levels, the government of New York is largely communist. SDNY is communist. I'm saying that only a little bit tongue in cheek because they are actually enforcing these like Marxist theories and critical theories, but it's more of just cabal corruption. They, the mayor appoints his head of the police department who is going to be a political ally, a commie, and that person's going to put other cops in positions of power who are going to align or do as they're told. Communism can't survive if there are actual God fearing police officers who say, I'm not shutting a church down. Good luck. Instead, what happened? The commies got power and they said, no more church for you. And the cops were like, you got it, boss. Just, just like that. Now that person is going to hell.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
No question. And if they think otherwise, they should. Maybe they can repent. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not an authority figure on this. I should have to tell. I would assume. And y' all can, y' all can criticize me for this and tell me I'm wrong, but I would kind of assume that if you use the threat of violence and force against Christians who are trying to go to church to worship, you're probably. That's probably a hell worthy trespass, I'd imagine. I don't know. I'm not. I'm a lapsed Catholic, so I don't really know much about what I'm talking about, but certainly seems like one of the most egregious things you can do is use the threat of violence against people to stop them from praising the Lord.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
And that's what they did in New York. So I think they're communist. I don't think they'll flee to Florida. I think Zohar Malnani will get in. They'll be like, you got it, boss. And then they're gonna say take over this grocery store, we're turning to public works and they're gonna say sure thing, no questions asked.
I think the NYPD has a very tough, very thankless job. But at the end of the day they do what they're told in their job. Cuz they wanna keep their job. They wan their pension and that's their interest for the most part. So when you see people like the NYPD following orders like that, they don't want to lose their job because if they weren't following orders then they would.
Fired so because their job is more important to them than the constitution or their faith or their, their family to be fair, I mean it's reasonable, right? You got a family, you got a salary, your kid needs to go to school, your kid needs food. And the government comes to you and says you will either do as you're told or you'll be in the pen with them. And that's what we saw when they went to the Jewish communities and started chaining the parks shut and shutting the schools down. They were spying and looking through windows because the Jewish community was trying to have school and temple and stuff like that. And in Seattle what we saw was there's a video I like to cite where Antifa threatened a guy and they were all across the street marching towards him as he walked backwards with his hands up. Police pull up behind him, get out of the car, grab his hands, put him behind his back and arrest him and apologize to Antifa. And it's fascinating to me that like there's this generic conservative view that all cops are good or the police, police are good. And I'm like bro, the Soviet Union, the cops were communists too, you know, and in Venezuela the cops, they're all communists.
I will say NYPD are outer borough or metropolitan, greater metropolitan area cops that.
Don'T want to lose their jobs, man.
Yeah, they don't want to lose their jobs, but most of them are Republicans. And I think it's worth saying too that everybody on the left in New York City doesn't think they're, I don't know, they think they're all fascists. I know, I'm.
Because I'm going to say this, you made the point. They're, they're having trouble recruiting because the reality is the good God fearing conservative Christian or constitutionalists are refusing to join a communist police department.
Well, we've demoralized the NYPD too. I mean, I think that's a bigger part of it. This was coming on the heels of like the defund the police movement and seeing, like how when police actually enforce the law, the consequences that they had for enforcing the law, even when they're doing it correctly, that when, you know there's trouble in the subway, they're going to have to think twice about whether or not to do anything because they don't want to get in trouble down the line. So they're again putting being in an impossible position and then being criticized from both sides.
And then when. When those lawyers were passing out Molotov cocktails and someone firebombed an NYPD van, I think multiple during they get. They get a slap on the wrist and a sweetheart deal and the cops are told, nope. So what I see is happening is, look, five years ago during the riots, I was defending the cops who were trying to stop the riots. But it's pretty obvious what happened. These cops started quitting. We talked about this for the past. The couple years afterwards of departments seeing massive. They were getting defunded and cops were quitting. And what did we all say here? They were replacing the good, you know, conservative constitutionalist cops with communists. And that's what they have done. So on the question of will New York City cops flee to Florida? Of course not. The ones that were going to flee fled a long time ago. A quarter million people fled Manhattan during.
Phil Labonte
COVID I don't know that that's accurate because Mamdani with the whole defund the police stuff. And if he is actually going to have policies that either shrink the department or limit the department's ability to enforce the law, there might be more people that actually resign and decided that they don't want to be a police officer in New York. How many? I don't know. Will they go to Florida? I don't know, but I imagine percent he's not going to be popular with the police force.
Tim Pool
And my, my point is that it's a small percentage of people that remain that hold those values. If you stuck around through Covid and shut churches down, then why would you leave now? What communist comes in and says, hey, it's time to bring the boot down on people? You'd be like, just like we did five years ago. You got it, boss.
Phil Labonte
There's a whole slew of reasons why someone might leave now. Maybe they couldn't leave before. Maybe they had family ties, right? So, you know, that being the case.
Tim Pool
It'S not about Zoran Mamdani winning is the point. If someone wanted to leave and they're saving up money to do so, it's. It's irrelevant to Zoran Mandani's win. My point is his policies I don't think will have a substantial, substantial impact on the nypd because Covid already did.
Steve Cortez
Here's what I would tell you is the difference. And I'm not excusing what anybody did during the COVID panic. Right. And cops who enforced those draconian regulations were clearly wrong. Right. I mean, egregiously wrong. Right. In what they did. However, you have to remember there was a national almost psychosis because there was such a, a mass panic that was spread with seemingly authoritative voices leading a very compliant corporate media that all did it in concert. Why? Because they wanted to defeat Donald Trump. It had nothing to do with public health.
Tim Pool
Sure.
Steve Cortez
Nothing to do with the virus. It's because it was election year and they thought they could, could be Trump. So my point is, though I'm addressing most cops were fooled by that, by that mass psychosis.
Tim Pool
And do you think communist regimes are any different?
Steve Cortez
Right. But the point is we're not under mass psychosis now is my point. And so given that when Mandani comes in and says we're. I'm in. The newly elected Marxist mayor of. Not that I'll say it, but I'm the newly elected Marxist mayor of New York, I think the reaction is going to be entirely different now from the NYPD than it was in 2020. And again, I'm not excusing them because they should have been more thoughtful, but the point is very few people were thoughtful during the lockdowns. Right.
Tim Pool
Every.
Steve Cortez
It took a lot of guts, a lot of thinking to stand up and say all of this is wrong. It's not based on science, it's violating the Constitution.
Tim Pool
Every, every, every communist revolution or fascistic take takeover is going to be predicated upon some kind of disaster or emergency.
Steve Cortez
Yeah.
Tim Pool
So I, if you are, if you are not cognizant of these things when you are outright defying the Constitution, I think let's, let's, let's. If you want to be literal as we can, we can be. Will NYC cops flee to Florida? Yeah, sure. But what could that be? A couple dozen maybe? I don't know. Would they go to Florida? Maybe not Florida, but sure, some might leave. Yeah. My point is, I think most of the cops of conscience left a long time ago.
Steve Cortez
That's a valid point. Yeah.
Tim Pool
When they were told shut down churches, they probably went, hell no. Are you not. That's, that's crazy. It's crazy that people did like, not only does it strike at the heart of this nation as to what the founding principles literally were. Freedom of religion. It's the First Amendment, the right to peaceably assemble and worship as you see fit. And Cuomo was like, I don't care. I can do whatever I want. It's an emergency. And the cops were like, yeah, an emergency. And then they went, shut everything down. That's New York, an emergency. That's right.
Steve Cortez
How about the other side of the equation then, of those churches, the pastors who acquiesced overwhelmingly whether they wanted to or not. Right. There were very few brave cases. There were some, but very few brave cases where they said, no, we're not shutting down and you can arrest me. So, you know, do you believe, do you believe that all the priests and pastors are also communists? Or again, what does my theory make more sense? That they were submitting, falsely submitting to a, to propaganda.
Tim Pool
So in Venezuela, the reason the communists maintain power is because they go to the national. First of all, starvation is a key component of how they maintain power. They go to the National Guard and say, your family will starve or you can do as you're told. And they say, yes, sir, I will not defy you. Because they don't want their kids to starve. They don't want to be homeless. And so when the government says, shoot those teenagers who are protesting, they say, yes, sir. The cops execs.
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Tim Pool
Same thing. This is what evil is. People believe that the deal with the devil was always going to be he'd offer you a roles or a private jet and beautiful women. Now the devil's going to come to you, grab you by the balls and say, I will take your children from you unless you serve me. And they say, I will do anything you say. So the idea that evil forces took over New York, San Francisco, Chicago, New Zealand, all these countries and we, we, I think we truly got to see who was willing to join the dark side and be evil. And there's always going to be an excuse. There's always going to be an internal justification for it. And when the Bolsheviks wage their revolution, the cops are gonna say, look, man, if we speak out, my kids are gonna be left homeless and I'll do anything for my kids. I will gladly serve the communists. And that's literally what they did, the priests. I don't really blame the people who have guns pointed at them when the villains are taking over with guns and saying, I will beat the crap. I will destroy your life. To be fair, though, I do think, especially for people, you know, for a certain, you know, men of the cloth, they absolutely should have said, you will not defy the Lord and kept those churches open. And it does say a lot when they're like a handful of guys have threatened me and my, and my faith and my flock, and I will, I will acquiesce. That's. That's insane to me. Absolutely insane. You'd think of all the groups, they'd be like, like, our law supersedes yours and we're backed by the Constitution as it is. And, you know, you make a good point. A lot of these guys were just like, okay, no more church. That's insane. Not to mention a lot of these churches are flying pride flags anyway. So are they really churches?
Phil Labonte
They're not really churches. Yeah, right.
Tim Pool
Only Catholic presenting churches.
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That's not a bad idea.
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I used to do resident neocon Jewish affairs correspondent. We could add to the list. There's a. There's a lot going on. I like White House correspondent though. I feel like that you want to lead with your. Your strong foot, right?
So T. Butterboses last episode Cartman was sad, woke was dead. Butter said it still exists. Enter Charlie Kirk debating woke students on college campuses. I mean, I'll say it again. When you were being mocked by a show like South Park, Family Guy, the Simpsons, it's when you are at the top of cultural relevance. So when they're mocking Charlie Kirk, all that matters is everybody knows his name. So, you know, I was talking to Sean earlier and he was like, they're gonna make fun of you, Tim. And I was like, no, they're not. Because we are not widely known enough for a joke to land the Charlie Kirk Cartman. A lot of people are going to be like, oh, like those Videos I see from the colleges. Yeah, I know who that guy is. Plus the memes and all that. Charlie's the most prominent conservative right now in the United States.
I think Charlie Kirk is a potent political force. I predict he will eventually run for president and maybe succeed in that.
Maybe. But I don't know, he's, he comes off more of as, as a like CEO type.
I think he's only 31. Give it a couple of decades. You know, like he's still so young people start their political careers at.
Yeah, but like 60. I think it's more likely he ends up as some kind of right wing version of a Soros type guy. Like a power money to do that.
I don't know.
Yes. He's only 31. Given some decades.
Okay. Hey, hey.
Oh, hold on. Charlie's got money and he's a young guy with massive success at a very young age running one of the biggest political organizations in the world now. And I think he's the most powerful person politically in the United States.
If it's between him being a Soros or a presidential candidate. Seems like Charlie Kirk has a bright future.
So we think, and obviously I'm talking outside of politics, in media spaces and political campaigning. I think Charlie is at the top. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's like a pyramid where it's him and there's nobody else. It's, you know, it's a mound. But when you compare him to everybody else, Charlie's look at Turning Points yearly event in Phoenix. Absolutely insane how massive this is.
Well, it's not only just him as like a political influencer, as you mentioned, it's Turning Point usa. It's Turning Point action. It's, you know, putting really hiring a lot of effective political voices on the right. He has this inside outside game where he has a lot of great relationships with people inside Congress, inside the administration and AS has a foot on the outside. So I think this guy's a force to be reckoned with, especially down in the future.
All right. P. Soupy says it would have been hilarious if south park had a clip of shrimp censored Trump shrimp Dick doing things to himself, watching a video of himself getting shot. Like, come on, South Park. I mean, come on, there's so many jokes they could have made. And it's. And it's. And it's funny that the liberals are like, haha. The conservatives are mad. Like the conservatives that are mad or mad because they're not doing it good enough. Like make fun of Trump better. Just saying he's fat with a tiny wiener is lazy, man. I was saying they should have done the Epstein escape heist where they break him out of prison and then Trump and him have a secret handshake because they're good friends. They could have done so much of that. They didn't do any of it. Yeah. Trump and Epstein, secret handshake. Come on. And he's like, I'll get you out of here, Betty. And they should have done an actual Trump voice.
Didn't they do a whole season dedicated to Trump with Mr. Garrison?
It was 10 years nonstop of them talking about Trump.
Yeah.
And all they can do is be like, he's got a small dick. I guess.
Steve Cortez
Well, and I think it's telling that in general, I think south park is really funny. So the fact that they're not funny with Trump tells me that they can't sort of check their ideology. In other words, they're so blinded by their disdain for him that they stop being creative.
Tim Pool
No.
Steve Cortez
I address Trump. They're like, no, we're just going to use the laziest trope against him we can find.
Tim Pool
I don't think they hate Trump at all. They're libertarians. I think they're probably.
Steve Cortez
You think they're obeying orders like the cops.
Tim Pool
I think they're just like, we don't really know how to. He's the president, so I'll make fun of him. We make fun of the president, I guess. And they don't really know how to do it in a meaningful way. So they're like, I just idiocracy level on my balls. I won't be surprised if the next episode he just gets hit in the football with the. Hit in the ground with the football. Right. See, it's on us. You know what I mean? But. But it's low brow. I'm saying, like, as a political junkie, I want to see Trump. I want to see a flashback where he, like, this is the joke I made. Tulsi, Gabbard, Trump and, like, Rubio are breaking into the prison to break him out of jail in 2019. And he's like, all right, take the cameras out. And they hack the cameras, and the cameras go down because the cameras were down. And then he has a ball and he rolls it towards security guards and gas knocks him out because the guards fell asleep. And then they go and they smuggle him out. And then they go to a secret lair where they do their secret handshake because Trump and Epstein were friends the whole Time. It would have been hilarious. I'd have been laughing at it. I'd have been like, that was good. Instead, they were like, he's gay and, like, Satan. And I was like, okay, well, you know, like, mocking gay people like that. I guess it's not really my jam. Conservatives, I guess, are really happy with their bent. You know, whatever. South Park's been ragging on trans people. Now they're. They're saying being gay is like Satan. You know, I don't know what I.
Phil Labonte
I mean, I like. Like you said, the. The actual jokes they made with the whole Trump sleeping with Satan, it's like, that is rehashed, and it's like, they are better than that.
Steve Cortez
So you know what?
Phil Labonte
They did it first with Hitler, though.
Tim Pool
So that may be where they're going with. That means Saddam.
Yes.
Oh, maybe it was Saddam Hussein.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it was Saddam.
Tim Pool
Yeah. So they're doing Trump as identically as Saddam Hussein. And Satan even says, you're like, this.
Last guy that I dated.
And it's like, okay, it's crazy, Al. Ja.
Because, well, you know, Saddam was a bloodthirsty dictator who, like, you know, called people. He had this one famous clip of him, like, doing this announcement and saying, you guys need to tell me you're guilty. And then he just started killing random people in the room in his government.
But I wonder. I wonder.
Phil Labonte
He murdered everybody. That was that, you know, didn't support him.
Tim Pool
I wonder if what's going on. South park is not so much. They're like, go after Trump. It's that. I said it before. I said again, they're remaking Scrubs. They're remaking King of the Hill. They're remaking. What's the Malcolm in the Middle? Brett was saying maybe Married With Children. They're rebooting all these shows because people just want nostalgia bait. They made Happy Gilmore 2. It was not good. It was just nostalgia bait, guys. It wasn't good. Everyone's like, no, it was really good. No, it wasn't. It was just that. You got to. They literally just did flashbacks to the first movie. I'm not kidding. He literally shows, like, Adam Sandler goes, I'm not gonna work with a guy who eats pieces of ish for breakfast. And then it flashes back to the first movie, and I'm like, that's just the same joke. But it was fun because it was like, hey, I remember the 90s. And that's what South Park's doing right now with Saddam. They're like, hey, remember the 90s? Saddam Hussein. Woo hoo. It's funny. Member berries. The funny thing is South Park's got all these memes, including member berries. Do you guys know this one? South park, an episode where it was the berries being a member this, member that, and they were making fun of this nostalgia bait. Now South Park's just doing it for $30 million an episode. Hey, I'd probably do it too. Hey, I'll tell you what, CBS, you pay me 30 million bucks, I will make really good episodes making fun of Trump. They will be funny.
Steve Cortez
Where would you go? I would go to Putin.
Tim Pool
Right.
Steve Cortez
I mean, if you want to be smart and funny. Right. Run with that theme that he's somehow Putin's, you know, whipping boy, which of course is absurd, but maybe. But be funny with that.
Tim Pool
I think the Epstein stuff, like I was saying.
Steve Cortez
Epstein. Yeah.
Tim Pool
Well, the thing about Putin is that it's old. And so the modern thing right now is Epstein and the conspiracy theories that the cameras went down. Or not conspiracy, but the reports where the cameras were down, the guards fell asleep, and I'm like, so explain that. With Trump breaking Epstein out of jail. And then you have the press asking Trump about Epstein. He panics and says, we don't want to talk about this. Why is. It's a fake. It's a hoax. He runs away, goes into a secret elevator where he's in an underground lab where his buddy Epstein is still alive, and they do the secret handshake and then they go, boom, baby. Yeah. Which is a callback to South Park. Yep. They could have done all that stuff. Instead they're like, let's just, I don't know, have him. The. The thing about the episode was that there was no plot. It's just Trump walking around, and then random things were happening. And I was like, that's fine, but, like, liberals are all cheering for it, and it's like, it's just Colbert all over again. It's just, you know. But hey, for $30 million an episode, what are you gonna do, right? All right, let's go. AK Storm says, Tim, you talk about the right not driving the narrative, but cover viral stories. How would you drive the narrative if you owned Fox? And why don't you do it with your shows? I love all the shows we do. You'll notice that these, like, biased fact checker sites are like, Tim Pool's conservative. Because we tend to stick to narratives that are not led or pushed by the left. Right. That's the point. So what I mean is. And it's not something we've seen recently. For a long time the left would drive, they would choose the New York Times would publish a story and it was just considered fact. Not anymore. Not anymore. Now the New York Times is desperately trying to say the Obamagate stuff isn't real. And the narrative is being driven by Trump and Tulsi Gabbard. When the Epstein stuff happened, the media very much cared about it, as we all did and Trump launched a ton of stuff. Now we've got a story, we even get to it that a meteor is going to slam into the moon and blow it up by 2032. Do you guys see this story?
Phil Labonte
I didn't know that it was 27 years.
Tim Pool
Potential asteroid impact on moon in 2032 could trigger massive meteor shower on Earth.
I need to get married, children before that.
Steve Cortez
Why? Then we got to blow it up, right?
Tim Pool
My daughter is going to be seven years old when rocks are raining down, destroying everything and wiping out civilization.
Phil Labonte
Hopefully they go into the Pacific Ocean.
Tim Pool
I guess even that would screw us.
Phil Labonte
Depends on the size.
Tim Pool
What if it just blows the moon?
Steve Cortez
Be like Independence Day. America's going to take care of it. We're going to go blow it up. If we need to blow up the moon.
Tim Pool
Well, no.
Steve Cortez
Blow up the meteors. Before they were going to do Star wars for the moon.
Tim Pool
Deep impact. We're going to get a mining team to train to be astronauts instead of getting astronauts oil drill, oil rig drillers. Ben Affleck apparently asked the director. He was like, wouldn't it be easier to get a bunch of astronauts to train to be to do mining instead of getting miners to train to be astronauts? And he said, shut the F up. It's like we're making a movie here, man.
Phil Labonte
Don't do rewrites.
Tim Pool
All right. Arcadian Twilight says perhaps it's time to mock south park and might media and other large evil corporations and the way south park used to. Well, I'll tell you this, I don't think South Park's ratings are as high as they used to be. Nobody's ratings are that high. And of the past, you know, see, like in four years they did, I think three episodes per year and they did a handful of specials. And their viewership is probably good maybe a million or two, but it's probably leaning slightly older. Let me, let me ask you guys, do you think Gen Z watches South Park?
Steve Cortez
No.
Tim Pool
No, we don't got any Gen Zers in here today. But I think the answer is probably no. Probably not. Dude, I gotta be honest, they do.
Phil Labonte
A lot of scrolling On.
Tim Pool
I don't watch Simpsons. Yeah, you know what I mean? I don't watch. I don't watch south park that much.
Steve Cortez
They don't watch television period. Right. I mean, yeah, just no, no linear TV for Gen Z.
Tim Pool
South Park. I gotta, I gotta say, I assume is targeting 40 plus. So it's, it's better than Colbert because, you know, I'll say this. If you're a CBS and you're looking at one whole NBA every year on Colbert, think about your three to five year plan for your investment and you're going to be like, where are we at in three to five years with 40 million a year? Negative. The audience will be dead. It's like, okay, we'll cancel it now before it's too late then. We're losing a hundred million dollars a year. All right, what do we got here? Secession now says anybody who supports Israel is supporting the synagogue of Satan. May anybody who vacations in Gaza in the next 30 years burn in hell. Vacation in Gaza. Who's doing that?
Phil Labonte
I don't think anyone will be vacationing in Gaza.
Tim Pool
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Phil Labonte
Everything has been blown up in Gaza. So I don't think that there are a lot of people that are gonna be like, I want to go to Gaza to vacation vacant stairs.
Tim Pool
As I was very pro Israel defending them in my personal life. That was until they attacked Iran and ran to Daddy Trump. They were willing to risk World War III and American lives.
That's where you drew the line. I mean, there could have been so many other things.
Randolph Shaw says Israel is the greatest ally of the American empire.
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Prohibited by law 21/ terms and conditions apply the greatest liability to the American Republic. Wow. Yeah, I think the sentiment is going south.
Well, I think it's definitely becoming a partizan issue. I think this is very significant on the left. I think its impact on the Republican party and on the right is a bit overstated. I will say though, we just had our first Republican congresswoman, Republican in Congress call it a genocide. And that's Marjorie Taylor Greene. She recently came out and described what Israel genocide. And she is one of 10 lawmakers. All the other ones are far left progressive.
Phil Labonte
The, the evidence is that it's about generation, not about, you know, political affiliation. Young people are not pro Israel. Gen Z is not pro Israel. And so it's not specifically about Republicans or Democrats.
Tim Pool
Average Americans are not pro Israel.
Phil Labonte
What was that?
Tim Pool
The average American is not pro Israel.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, apparently.
Tim Pool
I think the median American vote, I.
Mean this is literally just the Pew data that I pulled up before.
I think the median American voter is pro Israel.
Phil Labonte
That's only because most people.
Steve Cortez
I think I can explain that generation shift. I think it's because older people had this reservoir of pro Israel sentiment from decades of the United States and Israel being so close. However, for young people who are new to the situation, I think they see Netanyahu and they properly see in him somebody that we cannot trust. Because Netanyahu has been trying to get America to intervene in the Middle east for decades and at times through just grossly wrong analysis. You know, all the way back to the Iraq war, right, where he, he promised that he and Israel corroborated that there were weapons of mass destruction. I mean, this is 20 plus years ago that he did that in the United States and he was very effective at that propaganda campaign. He has been wrong for decades. He has constantly harangued the United States and enticed the United States into fighting on behalf of Israel and into aiding Israel. Again, they're our friend and ally. But it doesn't mean that it has to be our money. Certainly doesn't mean that it has to be our troops invading. I think young people see. See the failings of Netanyahu, and to them, that makes them extremely skeptical of Israel because they have none of that reservoir that older people do.
Tim Pool
All right, unit. Unit says, what was the story arc that had the character Chef leave South Park? I think shows like south park and Simpsons know more than they're letting on. Family guy. Seth McFarland has made several comments on the show and in private that he knew was going on with Weinstein. Weinstein, whatever his name is. I don't know how to pronounce it. And as well as Kevin Spacey, there's a joke where Stewie is running through the mall screaming, help, Help. I've escaped from Kevin. Kevin Spacey's basement. And he's. He's. There were, like, comedy events he did where he made passive comments, and everyone's like, Seth MacFarlane knew what was going on in Hollywood and just didn't say anything. As for Chef, he's a Scientologist. And the story was that when south park mocked Scientology, it was the Super Adventure Club, I think it was called. And they traveled to the jungle to do, you know, to bang kids, to steal their life energy or whatever the episode was. They made fun of South Park. I'm sorry, Scientology. Chef's a Scientologist. He got offended. They said, we make fun of everybody. You know, you're not special. So he quit. But because they owned the rights to everything he's ever said on the show, they. They had him join the Super Adventure Club, which was crazy. And all of his lines were a hodgepodge of various lines he said in different episodes. So it was intentionally sounding weird and didn't make sense. That was. That was the bit they did. And then he dies and becomes Darth Vader.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Tim Pool
Yeah. Let's see, what do we got here? Cyborg actual says a lot is wrong. I'm a Catholic, and I can tell you that most Catholics are staunchly pro life. I think you can't be a Catholic and pro choice.
Okay, so I don't know if we pull. It depends on, again, how you define Catholic, but in our country, some of the most prominent Democrats over the past decade have been Catholics, and they pro choice.
Also, some of our most prominent Democrats are men who say they're women as well. So there's. There's. There's a is, and then there is.
A thinks, according to Polling people who identify as women Catholics, sometimes men.
Right, I get it.
Are more likely to identify as pro choice than not.
And the point is, there are also men who claim they're women. So you can defy scripture and teachings and all of that and then be like, yeah, but I am Catholic. It's like, okay, well you're not.
Yeah, but then it's me judging your religion. And if I tell somebody they are aren't a Catholic, I'm sure I'll hear an earful as well.
Phil Labonte
So you will look at the bright side. You're going to hear an earful no matter what you say. So just go ahead and say what you believe.
Steve Cortez
But again, there's a massive split between practicing Catholics and cultural Catholics. Practicing Catholics are overwhelmingly pro life. But you're correct. If you, if you lumping everybody together, which almost all polling does and just says, what do you identify as? Then Catholics are actually pro abortion.
Tim Pool
They go to their female led church with pride flags hanging from the wall and they pray to a non binary Jesus.
I'm not trying to make like a political statement here, but there are a lot of Catholics heavily involved with like many of these progressive causes.
Right, but do you understand what we're saying?
Yeah. Like we get making a distinction between capable name only and people who are practicing.
Steve Cortez
I know. All right, we've got to.
Tim Pool
I don't want to start making these slurs for different religions.
Right.
But when you see distinction without a difference is kind of my point.
I'm going to go ahead and say I don't believe that if like a guy puts on a dress, he's not a woman. Sorry, a Catholic. A pro life liberal says, I'm Catholic. Sorry. You're just wearing a skin suit and claiming you're Catholic. You can't hang pride flags in your church with a female priest and be like, I'm Catholic. No, you're not. You're something else. You're just stealing the word right there's taking the word right for you Catholics.
To decide, not me.
So you think they're a pro choice? Orthodox?
Not orthodox, but reform for sure.
All right, let's grab, let's get one more in here. What do we got here? Glorified handyman says sorry. Update. 8.7 magnitude earthquake off east coast of Russia, Hawaiian, Alaska and the tsunami warning. The first wave is hitting 7pm Hawaiian time. I'm in the Coast Guard. My unit is evacuating.
Steve Cortez
Wow.
Tim Pool
Random trader says Wesley lapatner, a senior executive at Blackstone and CEO of the Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust was killed in a mass shooting at the company's Manhattan headquarters on July 20, 2025. Indeed. Yep.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. There's a lot of communists that are celebrating that because she was a CEO.
Tim Pool
Clayton A. Says, what are the chances Tim gets featured in the south park episode if this theme continues on? If they have me on south park, and I'm just saying, guys, make fun of everybody. Make fun of me, make fun of Charlie, make fun of Trump with good jokes.
Like, okay, I guess they do Russia stuff. If they did you. Come on. That's what they do.
Or Jewish stuff.
No, they wouldn't give you Jewish stuff. Come on. They have enough Jewish stuff on the show already. Maybe Russia stuff probably would be Russia stuff.
But I did that with Matan over the. Over the weekend, the Russia, Russia thing, you know, so it's like, I saw the thumbnail.
He put a Russian flag behind you, too.
He did. It was funny. And he titled it Confronting Tim Pool on Taking Money for Russia Propaganda or whatever. That was fun. That guy's hilarious, man. I like that guy. He's great. He was. He was at our culture war event. He's very, very funny, and he helped make the show. But, you know, I want to say one thing, too, before we go to the uncensored. All these people that show up and they're screaming at Pisco Liddy, the liberal lawyer who is defending, you know, Democrats and all that. And some people were like, why are you here? Why are you even talking? Rah. And it's like, we invited him to debate, and he did, and he debated a lot, and we appreciate that he did because liberals are so scared of coming to these shows. And I'm like, I don't understand why anybody was mad that he was there when this was the point of the show. And we're gonna have him back because he's a liberal willing to defend his positions and argue and debate with conservatives, and it's a good thing, but none of that. Next week, we may have. We have. We have a pretty big liberal who may be joining us. Like, big following. But we don't know which date she will be on. I think it'll be better if she comes this Saturday because we have more space for it, but because we. It's only four of us right now, but we'll see. It's gonna be a lot of fun, my friend. Smash that, like, button. Share the show. If you really do like it, we're gonna go to rumble.com timcast irl for the uncensored portion of the show again. Follow me on X and Instagram at timcast. Steve, do you want to shout anything out?
Steve Cortez
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Tim Pool
Right on.
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Timcast IRL Podcast Summary
Episode: South Park Makes Cartman CHARLIE KIRK, Latest Episode ROASTS Trump Again w/ Steve Cortes
Release Date: July 30, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Steve Cortez, Phil Labonte
Timestamp: [01:51]
The episode begins with Tim Pool addressing a sudden tsunami advisory issued for Hawaii and Alaska following an unprecedented 8.7 magnitude earthquake near Russia's Kamchatka Peninsula. Pool emphasizes the urgency of the situation, stating:
"Please stay safe everybody and we'll be monitoring the situation to see what happens."
– Tim Pool [01:51]
He urges listeners in affected regions to heed local warnings and stay informed as updates unfold.
Timestamp: [01:51] – [08:09]
Transitioning from the earthquake news, Pool delves into the cultural significance of South Park's latest trailer, where Eric Cartman is portrayed as Charlie Kirk. He highlights the strategic importance of this portrayal:
"It feels like we won the culture war."
– Tim Pool [01:51]
Pool notes that South Park hasn't targeted prominent political figures like Joe Biden or Kamala Harris but instead focuses on Charlie Kirk, indicating his rising influence in contemporary media.
Timestamp: [08:24] – [12:34]
Steve Cortez joins the discussion, echoing Pool's sentiments about South Park's focus on Kirk as a testament to the perceived victory in the culture war:
"When South Park feels that they need to mock a show host and a campaign operative... it's a huge win for accountability."
– Steve Cortez [09:12]
Phil Labonte challenges the notion of a singular right winning, suggesting a more nuanced shift where traditional Democrat coalitions are fracturing:
"So what would you say to someone that said maybe the right isn't winning, but the left is losing?"
– Phil Labonte [11:32]Cortez responds by highlighting the radicalization of the Democratic Party and its disconnect with the working class, particularly on cultural issues like gender ideology.
Timestamp: [24:03] – [29:30]
The conversation shifts to Stephen Colbert, who is reportedly "practically daring CBS to shut him down." Pool describes Colbert's aggressive stance against his network, suggesting a deeper malaise within mainstream media:
"Stephen Colbert is having what can only be described as one of the most epic temper tantrums ever seen in American public life."
– Tim Pool [24:03]
Cortez criticizes the transformation of late-night shows into partisan platforms, noting the decline in their unifying role in American society.
Timestamp: [25:58] – [43:20]
A significant portion of the episode tackles a recent mass shooting in New York City targeting NFL offices and Blackstone executives. Pool presents conflicting narratives about the shooter's motives, questioning the media's reliance on unnamed sources that link the act to anti-NFL sentiments versus conspiracy theories pointing to anti-Israel motives.
"How was he radicalized into deciding to shoot NFL people?"
– Tim Pool [59:40]
Steve Cortez argues for skepticism towards official narratives, suggesting possible hidden agendas or deeper motivations behind the attack.
Timestamp: [...]
Briefly, the hosts touch upon technological advancements with chatbots reportedly passing the Turing Test and discuss the employment challenges facing Gen Z college graduates. However, this segment receives less emphasis compared to the primary political discussions.
Timestamp: [80:03] – [86:17]
An incident in the WNBA where a player lost her wig during a game sparks laughter among fans but is critiqued by the hosts as indicative of deeper issues within the league. Pool and Cortez express disdain for the league's professionalism and its impact on perceptions of women's sports.
"If you have to pause the game because a wig fell off, that's the WNBA for you."
– Tim Pool [79:48]
Cortez further criticizes the WNBA for its perceived dependence on male-dominated sponsorships and undermining feminist principles.
Timestamp: [86:17] – [121:00]
In the concluding segments, Pool invites listeners to engage with upcoming events and promotions while continuing discussions on various topics, including:
Tim Pool:
"Charlie Kirk changed his profile picture to Eric Cartman. And I'm pretty sure South Park is older than Charlie Kirk is."
[01:51]
Steve Cortez:
"We're done with that. And Trump's the leader of that counter revolution of saying no. There will be revelations, there will be transparency and there's gonna be accountability."
[09:12]
Phil Labonte:
"The left has lost a lot of people that used to be that the normie Democrats are leaving the left en masse."
[11:56]
Tim Pool:
"Charlie Kirk is, probably the most prominent conservative in the country right now."
[17:44]
This episode of Timcast IRL weaves through urgent breaking news, intense cultural debates, and sharp critiques of media portrayals, reflecting the polarized landscape of contemporary American politics and society.