STATE OF EMERGENCY Declared Over Food Stamp CRISIS, Judge Says Trump MUST FUND SNAP w/ Elaine Culotti

Summary

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Timcast IRL Podcast Summary

Episode Date: October 31, 2025
Main Topics: Food Stamp (SNAP) Crisis, States of Emergency, Trump Legal Controversy, SNAP Corruption, Societal Fragmentation, Education, Local vs Federal Power
Special Guest: Elaine Culotti (California farmer, real estate developer, advocate)

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Overview of Episode Theme

This episode centers on America’s food stamp (SNAP) crisis, as multiple states declare emergencies over funding shortfalls. The discussion kicks off by examining the political blame game—particularly the finger-pointing toward Donald Trump and the GOP. Tim and guests break down how dependence on government aid is not sustainable, explore corruption and perverse incentives inside the SNAP system, and examine corresponding societal unrest—such as viral calls for organized looting if benefits lapse. The show then pivots to deeper issues: social trust, lawlessness, political prosecutions, breakdowns in education, and failures of government at various levels.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. SNAP Crisis & State Declarations of Emergency

• [07:22] Tim Pool reports several states, including New York, Maryland, and Delaware, declaring states of emergency due to federal SNAP funding running out.
• Political blame: NY Governor Hochul accuses Trump of "starving children," but Tim counters with Rand Paul’s point that Democrats are blocking a resolution based on the Biden budget.
• Dependency concern: Tim: “Large portions of our society are dependent upon the government for their very existence. I do not view this as sustainable, nor do I view this as Donald Trump's fault.” [08:23]

2. Corruption, Loopholes & Perverse Incentives in SNAP

• Elaine Culotti ([09:20]): SNAP has evolved from a supplemental program providing healthy foods to a catch-all EBT card that can be misused for junk food.
  • “It was vegetables, fruit... Now it's part of EBT...and it's really not so focused on just really good, nutrient, high nutrient food.”
• Manipulation & Fraud: Mary Morgan: “People are buying Coca Cola food and then selling it in plates on Facebook Marketplace...making a profit off their SNAP benefits.” [10:03]
• Loopholes as Policy: Tim highlights how Walmart lobbied to make SNAP eligible for all groceries, subsidizing their own business with taxpayer money and pushing employees to seek welfare. [12:04-13:10]
  • Seamus, on left-wing defense of SNAP: “I'm supposed to want to prop Walmart up with tax dollars?” [13:19]
• Program Incentives: The program is seen to incentivize single parenthood and dishonesty about household status for greater welfare eligibility.

3. Systemic Social Unrest & Viral Crime

• Viral Threats: Tim recounts calls on TikTok and black media for organized looting of Walmart if SNAP runs out ([20:15-21:25]), highlighting a TikTok calling for a mass theft event.
  • Mary [22:41]: “It is a viral trend. Even if that specific video isn’t viral.”
  • Seamus [22:47]: “When citizens are willing to just openly say in public that they intend on stealing... like, it’s over. All right? This is not a healthy society.”
• Perverse Incentives Example: Tim tells the story of the “Cobra Effect”—policy creates incentives for bad behavior, mirrored in how SNAP and welfare can worsen dependency and incentivize fraud ([15:20]).

4. Lawlessness and Breakdown of Order

• Prosecutorial, Judicial, and Societal Failures:
  • Lax theft laws in CA: Up to $900 theft not prosecuted, emboldening chronic shoplifting ([18:30-20:02]).
  • Lack of enforcement: Elaine: “In LA...the deal is they want you to drive your car and leave the windows open and park it with nothing in it so that no one breaks [in].” [32:21]
  • Tim: “I refuse to live in this...if someone comes up to you and they're robbing you, just give in. I'm not gonna do it.” [30:04]
• No-fault societies: Mary: “People believe that stealing is a victimless crime. This is the point that we reach.” [33:34]
• Rise in vigilantism and resignation: The group laments that crime targeting becomes about perceived victim vulnerability, reinforcing fear and street anarchy.

5. Immigration and SNAP Funding

• Elaine [16:22]: “During the mass immigration into the United States, the EBT tax coupon things that they gave them were in the thousands...that’s what the big argument is...we can't afford illegal alien SNAP programs.”
• Legal loopholes create ‘lawful entrants’ who receive benefits, regardless of immigration status ([17:40]).

6. Lawfare & Political Weaponization

• Selective law enforcement: The episode discusses the acquittal of a left-wing Antifa supporter for repeatedly soliciting Trump's assassination online, contrasting with Trump’s historic felonies despite lack of direct evidence ([38:35-42:35]).
• Tim: “It is not the first time they’ve used that law...it’s the first time they’ve ever done it without a clearly spelled out crime in the indictment...” (re: Trump prosecution) [41:55]
• Loss of fair trials: “When you have Democrats in New York say it doesn't matter if you can prove Trump did something wrong. Trump is so evil, he must be stopped. This is heading in one direction.” [52:09]
• Political violence and rhetoric escalate on social media and in official campaigns, reflecting further societal fragmentation.

7. Dysfunction in Urban & State Governance

• California as Microcosm: Elaine describes disastrous mandates, high-density zoning, absurd public spending (e.g., LA spends $900,000 per homeless person per year [37:00]), and zero meaningful economic development.
  • “You have to keep it local...the biggest problem that we have in California is we have no economic development.” [68:36]
  • Policies like the ‘mansion tax’ are misnomers, hurting markets and not generating real value.
• Local vs federal: The crew stresses subsidiarity—the need for more local control, less sclerotic federal bureaucracy ([66:51-67:49]).

8. Education, Public School System Breakdown, and Socialization

• Phones in Schools: Elaine describes the campaign to remove smartphones from K-12 to reduce learning decline. Tim believes the institution of public schooling itself is a major cause of social decay ([81:09-87:46]).
• Failure of Schools: Tim, homeschooled, shares how institutional education stifles independent thinking and raises compliant “communists.”
  • “[Institutional learning] just makes communists who are dependent on government and expect government to feed them.” [81:37]
• Peer Socialization Flaw: Children learning from children rather than adults creates intellectual decline ([96:23-98:15]).
• Homeschooling push: Tim and Elaine both advocate for parent-run pods and local, personalized education.

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• Tim Pool [08:23]: "Large portions of our society are dependent upon the government for their very existence. I do not view this as sustainable, nor do I view this as Donald Trump's fault."
• Seamus Coughlin [22:47]: “When you are at this point as a nation where citizens are willing to just openly say… they intend on stealing… it’s over. This is not a healthy society.”
• Elaine Culotti [09:20]: "SNAP has to go from a farm to be packed and washed and sent to a grocery store. And by the time it gets there, it’s really not so focused on just really good, nutrient, high nutrient food."
• Mary Morgan [10:03]: "People are buying Coca Cola food and then selling it in plates on Facebook Marketplace…making a profit off their SNAP benefits."
• Tim Pool [13:10]: "Walmart subsidizes themselves through making their workers take benefits and then having people use benefits to buy from Walmart."
• Elaine Coladi [16:22]: “…We can't afford illegal alien SNAP programs. We can't afford medical for illegal aliens. That's really what the big argument is."
• Seamus Coughlin [22:47]: "When you are at this point as a nation where citizens are willing to just openly say in front of everyone in the public that they intend on stealing things, like it's over."
• Tim Pool [30:04]: "You have explicitly just told every criminal in this city that the people will give you whatever you want…I just don’t agree that we should live in a society where we all agree if someone wants to take from you, let them do it."
• Elaine Culotti [68:36]: “You have to keep it local...the biggest problem that we have in California is we have no economic development. We do not grow our business at all.”
• Mary Morgan [96:06]: “School is not for everyone, but if we're to have schools, the kids need to be treated like little soldiers, very austere…they need to…have authority that they respect.”
• Tim Pool [98:15]: “The kids I knew who are dead because of the public school system, from gangs, from violence and from drug use. It should never have been that way.”

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 04:30 — Introduction of Elaine Culotti and her background in farming, SNAP, and California politics.
• 07:22 — Launch into the SNAP funding crisis, state emergencies, and political blame.
• 09:20 — Deep dive into how SNAP works, corruption, and the evolution of the program.
• 13:10 — Walmart’s relationship with SNAP—self-enrichment and the employer welfare loop.
• 15:20 — Perverse Incentives: The "Cobra Effect" story as an analogy for welfare policy.
• 20:15 - 21:25 — Coverage of viral social media calls for mass looting if EBT runs out.
• 22:47 — “It’s over” segment on decline of social capital and open criminality.
• 32:21 — Elaine on LA lawlessness, lack of police, and "mind your business" culture.
• 38:35 - 42:35 — Political lawfare: Antifa assassination threats, Trump’s convictions, and the decay of political norms.
• 66:51-67:49 — “Subsidiarity”—why local government is best, in contrast to bloated federal structures.
• 81:09-87:46 — Schools, phones, the birth of “institutionalized communism,” and homeschooling advocacy.
• 96:23-98:15 — Schools teaching children via children, decline of intergenerational learning.
• 100:10 — Tim’s vision for homeschool pods and local parent-led education.

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Conclusion & Takeaways

This episode paints a stark picture of an American system in crisis:

• An unsustainable “benefits state” teetering on fiscal collapse,
• Loophole-ridden, corrupted welfare policies incentivizing dysfunction,
• A populace increasingly indifferent to law and order,
• Politicians fueling division, and courts weaponized against opposition,
• Urban and state mismanagement, and
• An education system preparing dependent, resentful citizens rather than independent adults.

Tim and the panel urge personal responsibility, localism, tough choices on policy, and cultural reform—starting with families, schools, and honest leadership—as necessary steps to pull back from the brink. The resonance of “hope for the best, prepare for the worst” pervades; the message is clear: systemic change is urgent, but so is looking after one’s community and children.

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Guest Socials:

• Elaine “Lipstick Farmer” Culotti on Instagram
• Seamus Coughlin: twistedplots.com
• [Mary Morgan: @MaryArchived on X/TikTok/Instagram]

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For continued unfiltered discussion:
Catch the uncensored aftershow at rumble.com/TimcastIRL

Transcript

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Several states are declaring states of emergency because their food stamp money is going to run out. I'm going to say that again. Several states have declared a state of emergency because they're not getting money from the gut from the federal government for food stamps. Now they're doing this so they can start pulling funds from other areas because that's how important this is to many of them. And I wonder how much the fear of riots plays into it. The root.com is trying to make a viral video happen. It's not happening. Where a woman is organizing a mass riot on a scheduled date. I kid you not, she says everybody on this date go to Walmart at this time because they can't arrest all of us and run. Forced run. Apparently she's not familiar with Three Stooges syndrome where when you try to jam all of the people through the door at one time that they can't get out and thus will be easily arrested. So we'll talk about that. Plus fears of I know everybody and their mother says it World War 3 because Donald Trump has ordered the beginning of nuclear testing, which is interesting nonetheless. And we've got a judge saying that he's going to order Trump to unfreeze these, these benefits. So we'll talk about that and a lot more before we do. We got a great sponsor. It is Bearskin, my friends. You guys have seen the bear skin hoodie that I wear sometimes. It's, it's amazing. It's, it's super comfortable and I absolutely love it. 340 GSM Bearskin B A E R Skin Micro fleece. So smart people. Right now they're getting their winter gear because it's starting to get cold out. This is hands down the best time to prep for the coming winter. Bear Skin is running a 60 off deal right now, but only if you get your hoodie early. This hoodie is built like a tank. 340gsm micro fleece. 10 pockets with a clean, rugged fit that looks awesome. Plus it zips right into the heavy storm rain jacket to become 100% waterproof when you need it. So when it turns cold, wet and Windy, you're not scrambling at the last minute. You'll get free US Shipping fast delivery. And you locked in your winter gear already. That's a win win. So do yourself a favor. Text the word Tim to 36912 to lock in your 60% off. Again, that's Tim to 369 12. You'll get a link sent straight to your phone. You can click it whenever you want to buy the hoodie. It's fantastic. And one more thing. When you support Bearskin, you're also supporting the fallen outdoors and Hope for the Hope for the warriors veterans programs. So you're not just buying great gear, you're backing a cause that matters. Don't wait till you're freezing. Text Tim to 36912. And my friends, head over to cast brew.com. we got a promo Turkey 20. That's right. Right now, for this month, if you use promo code TURKEY20, you're getting 20% off all all Cast Brew products. But wait, that includes subscriptions. So if you subscribe to any one of these coffees on a recurring basis, you will keep the 20% off discount as long as you keep the subscription going. Now, the code will stop working eventually, but if you subscribe, you'll get it forever. That means when you pick up your Mary's Ghost Blend s' mores flavor, 20% off your Appalachian nights, 20% off your Ian's Graphene Dream. That's right. Seamus and Eve.

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[Elaine Coladi]

Hey, how are you?

[Tim Pool]

I'm good.

[Elaine Coladi]

I can't believe where you live.

[Tim Pool]

Out in the middle of nowhere.

[Elaine Coladi]

I mean, good God. Well, so wonderful.

[Tim Pool]

I love it. Who are you? What do you do?

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, I am. I'm. I'm from California, and I can't believe where you live.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You're going to dog on this place.

[Elaine Coladi]

I know, I know. I spent quite a bit of time with your. With your staff, and they're quite. Quite interesting. And Josh is from California.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

And that was the number one question is, have you ever wanted to leave? You know, and I'm like, no, no, no, I want to stay. I want to stick it out. Don't worry about me. Worry about my enemies.

[Tim Pool]

Well, so what do you do?

[Elaine Coladi]

I build houses. I have a farm. I've got a farm business.

[Tim Pool]

You have chickens?

[Elaine Coladi]

I have chickens.

[Tim Pool]

That's good news.

[Elaine Coladi]

I got a lot of chickens.

[Tim Pool]

Pass the test.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah, we got lots of chickens. We have a farm stand. We do csa. We do snap. Oh, yeah, our SNAP program's fine.

[Tim Pool]

By the way, we have a large painting of a rooster. Mary.

[Elaine Coladi]

I like that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, chickens are great.

[Elaine Coladi]

Roosters drive me crazy. By the way. We have a bunch of them, and they just never stop.

[Tim Pool]

It's true. Worst just yelling.

[Elaine Coladi]

The chickens are fine. The roosters are a bit loud. So I came out. I came out to dc. I've been in DC this week, and. And I've been meeting with a bunch of lawmakers, you know, trying to help out California.

[Tim Pool]

Well, it needs it.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah, we met with EPA.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, interesting.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. EPA's interested in cleaning up the California river and the Tijuana river and the Colorado river where they collide there. So that's good.

[Tim Pool]

Right on. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We're gonna have a good time.

[Elaine Coladi]

I'm really glad to be here.

[Tim Pool]

Absolutely. We got Mary hanging out.

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[Tim Pool]

Let's go. All right, here's the first story from Newsweek. SNAP benefits update Emergency declared as funding runs out. Oh, boy. Who's.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Who's doing.

[Tim Pool]

New York Governor Kathy Hochul has declared a state of emergency on Thursday after federal funding shortfalls threatened snap. Hochul posted on Next the Trump administration would rather starve children and families than lift a finger to help them put food on the table. I'm declaring a state of emergency to use every tool we have to help the 3 million New Yorkers losing food assistance because of the GOP shutdown. But wait, Maryland has declared a state of emergency. Robert, what do they say? No, no, no, you can shut up. Maryland Governor Westmore declared a state of emergency on Thursday over the upcoming loss of SNAP benefits. Quote, Donald Trump is refusing to deploy emergency federal funds, funding that would keep food assistance programs running during the shutdown. By doing that, I want to be clear, he is breaking the law. And then Delaware did it. Delaware Governor declares state. Okay, we get the point. They're all starting to declare emergencies over SNAP because large portions of our society are dependent upon the government for their very existence. And I do not view this as sustainable, nor do I view this as Donald Trump's fault. I was talking with Senator Rand Paul earlier, and he was pointing out that Democrats are the ones who are blocking this. They could vote for it at any point. And the important distinction here which Rand Paul brought up, this is a continuing resolution from the Biden budget. It is exactly what Biden had already approved and Democrats were for it then and now are acting like they can't sign it now.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So I want to ask, you mentioned you do farm work or you have a farm. Yeah, Is that so? We've been talking about this, about the fact that SNAP obviously affects the price of food and grocery stores have very thin profit margins. And so it's difficult to work out exactly how this is going to affect the economy and food markets overall. I'm curious if you have any particular insight into that as someone who is a farmer and has experience with agriculture.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, SNAP is an evolution. It was food stamps weren't snap. They weren't called snap, they're now called snap. Originally it was a supplement. I think it actually, I think supplement might be the first supplemental nutrition.

[Seamus Coughlin]

There you go. That's right.

[Elaine Coladi]

It was vegetables, fruit, nuts. It was things that were natural and organic. And so they would send it to grocery stores and then you could turn in your SNAP coupons at grocery stores. Now it's part of ebt, which is the electronic benefit, which is how they just deposit money into your account. And so SNAP has to go from a farm to be packed and washed and sent to a grocery store. And by the time it gets there, it's really not so focused on just really good, nutrient, high nutrient food.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, you, you can use EBT cards to purchase candy bars.

[Elaine Coladi]

Okay.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Exactly.

[Mary Morgan]

People are buying Coca Cola food and then selling it in plates on Facebook marketplace to other people in the hood on an upcharge. So they're literally making a profit off of their SNAP benefits.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah, about this, I mean, there's been a long history of that. There's been a long history of, you know, kind of brutalizing the, the, the food stamp business. And people have been selling their food stamps for decades. The, the sad part is, is that, you know, really the SNAP program needs to be standalone. That's what kind of, I think Bobby Kennedy was working on through HHS was to have SNAP be sort of a program where it really was fruit, vegetables, nuts, things that are potatoes. And then it would go to fulfillment centers and then it would be, you know, last mile delivery. You could still buy it on coupons, but you'd actually get good food. You wouldn't be able to go there and sell them and, and convert. And I know that that's not what this is about. This is simply about the fact that the government shut down. But at the end of the day, my farm stand, we are doing snap. And most of the people that I know in California that have independent farm stands and independent grocery, they're doing snap.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So I'm curious, do you know when this changed and why, when they decided to move away from giving people genuinely nutritious foods and started to allow them to basically purchase anything at a grocery store.

[Elaine Coladi]

I am not sure when it happened, but it would be, I would say in the last 15 years this whole thing has become so corrupt. You know the amount of money that they're fighting over is $187 billion.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, there are any restrictions on what you can buy with snap.

[Elaine Coladi]

Sure there are, but they, the grocery store is not going to.

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Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

Okay, imagine if you get groceries and they go bad. You're not gonna, you're gonna give the stamps back. You know, you just give somebody something else. It's all about farm to table. Has to be, you know, two hand touch. It can't sit for weeks and weeks and weeks. It's very difficult to deliver fresh food on this kind of a program.

[Tim Pool]

It is, I think probably the large corporations lobbying to change the system to allow people to buy whatever they want because soft drinks are two of the top 10, two of the top 10 items purchased with food stamps.

[Elaine Coladi]

And it's, it's so much profit.

[Tim Pool]

Right. And they're saying Walmart's gonna lose billions of dollars. So these big corporations have been subsidizing themselves off of taxpayer dollars. It's laughably insane. And it's not, it's not just that. There's this old documentary from like 15, 20 years ago talking about how Walmart and maybe this is wrong or whatever, but I saw this in some documentary. Walmart would tell staff if you can't afford to work here because you don't make enough money, apply for welfare on top of your your pay to supplement to offset.

[Elaine Coladi]

And so.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. So the argument for a long time has been that Walmart subsidizes themselves through making their workers take benefits and then having people use benefits to buy from Walmart.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well this is funny because left wing people will try to use that as an argument for why we shouldn't cut EBT for like that. You think that's a good argument? Like I'm supposed to want to prop Walmart up with tax dollars?

[Mary Morgan]

I mean I don't think the majority of the right is even advocating for SNAP to Be abolished.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No.

[Mary Morgan]

Saying that we need to root out the corruption. A lot of the people who actually need it and would be more deserving of it. Hardworking people who are married don't qualify because they make responsible decisions. And so many people who don't need it are getting it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I like that.

[Tim Pool]

In order to receive the benefits, you have to be married for at least a certain amount of time. And you can't be. You can't get a divorce.

[Mary Morgan]

That's a huge reason why people are applying for it and getting denied is because they're married.

[Elaine Coladi]

I think really people that are single need it.

[Mary Morgan]

A lot of people talking about this on Twitter saying, like, I'm married, my husband makes, you know, whatever, less than 40k, less than 30k a year. And they've applied for SNAP before and got denied, and they wonder why. And people say it's because you're married. You're more likely to get it. You're more likely to get approved for all sorts of benefits if you're unmarried. And that's incentivizing irresponsibility.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. And I understand what you're saying, by the way, that there are single mothers, for example, who might need this. But part of the difficulty is the program ends up creating an incentive that pushes fathers out of the homes. And so you go, how is there a way to structure this where we ensure that people who really do need it are getting it, but where it's not creating these broken homes? Because. And there are also instances this is gonna not to shock and scandalize anyone in this audience. Right. I'm sure you guys have never heard of, but there are people who will live together outside of marriage, and they could get married, but one of the reasons they don't is because if they do, the woman will not be able to continue to collect the welfare that she's getting.

[Mary Morgan]

They're lying about the members of their household in order to get accepted for these applications.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Mary Morgan]

And you know what? The only reason why there should be a state of emergency declared in any of these states is because people are openly threatening to riot and loot stores on TikTok with their whole face showing their whole government name on. On their profile.

[Tim Pool]

Well.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

The thing is, you guys know the story of perverse incentive where it was like the British colonials in India said, we got.

[Seamus Coughlin]

We got a.

[Tim Pool]

We got a snake problem. So we're going to pay you, you know, a dollar for every snake had you bring us. And they went, okay. They went home and started breeding snakes. So they thought they were going to get rid of them and they just made the problem worse. And that's exactly what we get with this program. Although it's not funny.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, it's. No, I agree with you. It's very sad. Part of the, the interesting thing about that particular story is you got to remember this is this was the British in India. So there's not gonna be the same level of solidarity built up between the government and the people there. And the same thing actually happens with the federal government when this stuff is handled by local communities. People who know each other are feeding their neighbors. It's a completely different story. You're more discerning about who gets the food. People who have a reputation for being liars or being hustlers or being scammers or grifters are gonna be weeded out just by virtue of what their reputation is. But because we federalized all of this, it makes it nearly impossible to figure out who the liars are, who the phonies are.

[Elaine Coladi]

One of the big parts of EBT was during the mass immigration into the United States, the EBT tax coupon things that they gave them were in the thousands. So people had money in a bank account to go to grocery stores. I've read several articles on the amount of EBT that was handed out to people coming over the border. And that's what the big argument is with the Trump administration is basically that we can't afford illegal alien SNAP programs. We can't afford medical for illegal aliens. That's really what the big argument is. That's what they're really fighting about. The real issue for me is that you can't get fresh food across the country. And so it becomes corrupt just because it costs too much. It's never going to be fresh. So we might as well sell cigarettes and beer and we'll just use the SNAP coupons for that. That's kind of really what's going on. And $187 billion of that is crazy.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, no, I completely agree with you. It's also, it's interesting because what the left has been doing is they've been going, oh well, erm, actually illegal aliens are not getting these benefits. It's like, okay, non citizens absolutely are though. And what happens is because the Biden administration and basically every left wing administration or political authority for the past several decades has given people temporary protected status whenever they can, thus making them non illegal even though they're not citizens. It extends welfare benefits to those people.

[Tim Pool]

They call them, I think, lawful entrants.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

So they enter the country illegally and then when law enforcement, CBP or I say you stop right there, they go asylum. And then they're like, oh, they got us.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. We can't deport them now. They're a lawful entrance and I have.

[Elaine Coladi]

All this I need to spend.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Exactly. They said the magic word. What?

[Tim Pool]

Even though there's 8 USC 1325 which states entering the country from anywhere other than an official port of entry is illegal. Illegal. So the reality is we've said it. These people, these Democrats, live in an entirely different country. The. The laws of our Congress and constitute and constitution. It doesn't matter to them. They. They are, they are somewhere else.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, that's.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, in la, we don't have to worry because they haven't funded Prop 36. So if you don't have any food, you can just go into the grocery store and take it. So it's fine.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, that's what, like 900 worth of theft or something?

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah, that's so crazy. 70, 71 or something like that voted for this law to be passed and now they won't fund it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What's the law?

[Elaine Coladi]

Prop 36. So right now, because of COVID they, they were like, you know, people can steal and we're not going to prosecute. And it was up to $900. Literally. A guy went into a Thrifty and took $2,000 worth of stuff because it was 50% off.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Okay, that's so funny. It's awful, but it's funny.

[Tim Pool]

Well, so the joke that we made was you should sell everything for $1,000, everything and then offer up discounts at the register and someone actually did it.

[Elaine Coladi]

That would be. That's a great idea.

[Tim Pool]

It didn't work.

[Elaine Coladi]

You should have made that work.

[Tim Pool]

No, great idea. They tried doing. I can't remember where, but the police were just like, no, you just change.

[Elaine Coladi]

It from the dollar store to the thousand dollar store.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. The issue is, it's not. It doesn't matter if this law exists about the $900. What matters is if somebody steals even a couple hundred dollars, they shoplift. If you work for a CVS and someone comes in and takes $100 worth of stuff and you call the police, they're going to be like, what would you have us do? It's going to take us 15, 20 minutes to get there. The person's going to be long gone. We take a report, no one will ever catch the person. So they just don't care. They don't show up.

[Seamus Coughlin]

We did so back when this first became law that you could steal less than $900 worth of stuff. In California we did a cartoon where it was Gavin Newsom and he was like one of those crazy TV salesmen and he's like this bike previously $850 now free. And he's like rattling off all this stuff. This laptop used to cost $700 now free.

[Tim Pool]

Well, let's, let's pull up this story from theroot.com I don't know how you describe the route. It is black news and black views with a whole lot of attitude.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well that, that's how you describe it.

[Tim Pool]

How you describe it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's how you describe the route.

[Tim Pool]

If the snap, if the snap benefits cut off, results in violence, it wouldn't be the first time. It's funny because I believe they changed the headline which used to read the TikTok plan to stage a massive theft event at Walmart and they, they said it was going viral. The problem is it's not going viral. They're just hoping that it happens. So they've got this post from Tik Tok which I, I, I'll pull up and we'll play for you. You guys ready? Here you go. Listen to this. Oh people, my people. I wish we stopped crying about this EBT card. At the end of the day they trying to see is we going to.

[Elaine Coladi]

Stick together and we are going to stick together.

[Tim Pool]

November 3rd at 6:30 we're going to.

[Elaine Coladi]

Want Walmart, we're going to walmart and.

[Tim Pool]

At 7:30 we're gonna walk out of Walmart with our buggies. Okay? The thing is they can catch everybody. You feel me? All you gotta do is run for us.

[Mary Morgan]

Run.

[Tim Pool]

Okay? We have to stick to gather.

[Elaine Coladi]

It don't even matter as long as.

[Tim Pool]

We don't have everything we need for Thanksgiving. That's all that matters.

[Elaine Coladi]

Run for his run. Remember, put it in your cat calendar.

[Tim Pool]

November 3rd, she should be arrested, remember right now, criminally charged, incitement to riot, whatever else they can get her on. But the funny thing is the, the Tik Tok is not viral at all. It's got 500 likes. And the initial post from the Root claimed that it was going viral. I think the intention of the writers at the Root because I think the Root was part of like the Gizmoto network at some point. Oh yeah, the Onion looked at. Oh I'm sorry, that's opinion, Opinion I thought, I'm pretty sure it was a part of the Onion. It's like the same format, whatever they wanted this to go viral.

[Mary Morgan]

So hold on, there is now an entire like Libs of TikTok styled account called EBT of TikTok where there are thousands of people threatening to riot.

[Tim Pool]

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[Mary Morgan]

And inciting groups of people to do so. So it is, it is a viral trend. Even if that specific video isn't viral.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I'm just going to be. This is, this is not me blackpilling because there is no black pilling and there's no black pilling allowed. But when you are at this point as a nation where citizens are willing to just openly say in front of everyone in the public that they intend on stealing things, like it's over. All right? This is not a healthy saying.

[Mary Morgan]

Like we're going to loot from the paid for groceries that white people are walking out with.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, oh yeah, we will just steal it from people too.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, that's reparation.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And I just want to say too, like I, when I say that means your society's over, it 100% does. Christ has brought people back from the dead, right? Like God can bring our society back is what I'm trying to say. But by natural human means. Like we're done.

[Tim Pool]

We're completely, we're cooked. I just want to fact check. I was correct. It was part of the Onion. So go media. I believe this was after Gawker, you know, and all those websites that got purchased and it was Gizmodo, Jezebel, Deadspin, Lifehacker, Splinter, the Root, Kotaku, Kotaku and Jalopnik and the Onion Portfolio, the Onion, Clickel, AV Club and Takeout. And then I guess what happened was that whole thing collapsed. And now as of 2025, it's just the route which once again is black news and black views with a whole lot of attitude, a whole lot apparently also calling for everyone to mass loot Walmart. But I want to stress this as, as someone who has been to a Walmart, as I'm sure some of you may have at some point. They. The doors there are not particularly wide and there's usually two, there are, there are two ways in. You know, on the. You know, left and the right of the building. And if this woman's plan were to actually, actually be implemented, these people would fall victim to Three Stooges syndrome, which is when everyone tries jamming through the door. At the same time, they get stuck and will all be easily arrested. So that's not going to work. But she's not the only person who's been calling for this stuff. The calls for mass rioting and looting, it's. It's nuts. I go arrest them.

[Mary Morgan]

All I think is, yeah, don't say that. There are no political solutions to this. There are certainly political.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I just think. I think you. There are political solutions.

[Mary Morgan]

The law.

[Seamus Coughlin]

There are political solutions that could salvage certain parts of this country for a certain period of time. It's just that. Listen, I'm going to quote Fulton Sheen again. Communism is not the thing that destroys the society. It's the rot that sets in when it's already dead. Like, I don't think live in a time where we are desensitized to this, but if our ancestors saw that people were talking this way, if they saw the current state of affairs, they'd be like, oh, yeah, you don't have society. You're like, yeah, living not to.

[Mary Morgan]

That whole slavery thing.

[Tim Pool]

I don't. I don't know if this is from one of your videos or why I heard this, but what was I watching? It said a bunch of. It might have been a Simpsons bit. There are a bunch of people in hell who did things a lot worse. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There's a bunch of people in heaven today that did way worse things than the people who are condemned to hell for today.

[Mary Morgan]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Did I say that right?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I'm not sure.

[Tim Pool]

Basically, the point is this. If you go back 300 years, people went to heaven and were engaged in brutal warfare, abject racism, slavery, and today we are way, way, way, way, way more. I don't know the right words. A combination of demure, weak, and also magnanimous.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Comfy. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The idea was like, you have the conquistadors all just. They knew they were going to heaven. And today you've got people who are condemned to hell for a fraction, a fraction of just thinking the things that conquistadors may have done.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, certainly for texting them, I think they should change the name of that thing to the loot.

[Tim Pool]

The worst thing about that video was not her calls for mass violence. It was the ASMR whispering. I think. I think ASMR should be illegal. You know, I don't understand asmr.

[Seamus Coughlin]

We plan to rob Walmart when EBT goes out.

[Tim Pool]

If, you know, like, I will, I will. These ASMR videos.

[Mary Morgan]

You go to fucking Walmart.

[Tim Pool]

I will, I will. I will punch a hole in the monitor. I will punch my phone so hard it will explode into fragments as soon as an Instagram ASMR video pops up.

[Mary Morgan]

ASMR looting.

[Tim Pool]

I. I don't know what it is about people that they really want that low, whispery voice and scratching where it relaxes them. It brings me to the pinnacle of rage.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's one of the reasons I can't.

[Mary Morgan]

Hear you rename shoplifting as, like, quiet shopping.

[Tim Pool]

No. No. What was it?

[Mary Morgan]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Undocumented shopping.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It'S not illegal. It's just not documented.

[Seamus Coughlin]

It's just. It's purchases they haven't made yet. Listen, I think undocumented iPhone owners should have the same path to legal ownership that people who went through the process to get their iPhone.

[Elaine Coladi]

How?

[Tim Pool]

We vote for a Democrat president so they can introduce the Deferred Action for Shopping. What's the. What's the acronym? Deferred Action for Undocumented Shop. Shop purchases.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So he doesn't have a receipt. He's not human.

[Mary Morgan]

I'm. I'm calling it now. Like, after Halloween, we're going to see the craziest rage, bait, trick or treat. Looting videos.

[Tim Pool]

That's Friday.

[Elaine Coladi]

Like, it's all happening on the same day.

[Mary Morgan]

We're going to see, so.

[Tim Pool]

Well, Black Friday's a month.

[Mary Morgan]

Stealing from the point where they put the bowl of candy out for them to take one. They're just.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, the whole bowl.

[Mary Morgan]

It's going to be crazy.

[Tim Pool]

I see a lot of these body cam videos on YouTube and Instagram. They pop up from time to time. And I'm sure you guys have seen this. Have you guys seen the videos where it's like someone tries filling up a shopping cart and walking out with it?

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, well, I routinely see these videos and it's always like, oh, man, that's crazy. I can't believe they would do that. And the Walmart employee, like, doesn't know what to do, and then the person just walks off. Okay, well, I saw one today where the lady was walking the shopping cart out and some other, like, a store employee got in front of her and said, you can't take this. And it was a black woman. She pulls what appears to be a Glock.

[Mary Morgan]

I saw that same thing. And she was trying to rope her children.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

Into the criminal act.

[Tim Pool]

That's crazy.

[Mary Morgan]

She was telling her children, no, run out, run out to the car, take the other cart.

[Tim Pool]

I'm like, dude, we are, we are cooked. That's what I'm saying, right? He's like, there is no society.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right.

[Mary Morgan]

It's just like the mindset is like, mind your business. And that's one of the videos that they're just saying, like, if you're an employee or a fellow shopper and you see someone walking out with a whole cart of stolen items, mind your business.

[Tim Pool]

Well, because think about the repercussions. We get told this all the time. And I've never agreed with this, much to my own detriment, I would imagine. But when I, you know, I'm growing up in Chicago, it's a, it's a dangerous place. And you are told if someone robs you, give everything up. And I, my response was no, like, well, they'll kill you. And I'm like, guess I'll die. I, I, I just, I, I can't believe you people choose to live this way. Because what ends up happening is you have explicitly just told every criminal in this, in this city that the people will give you whatever you want. You know, I'm going to bet on, I'm going to bet on they don't want to go to prison for the rest of their life. Not true for everybody. And they'd rather not get in a fight. So if someone comes up to me, I'm going to say no. And I only had one instance where it happened and the guy threatened me. But I got lucky because the cops were there. So I've never actually encounter. Well, to be fair to my own defense, I did tell a guy trying to mug me no, but I got saved by the cops. So who knows, maybe he would have shot me. I just don't agree that we should live in a society where we all agree if someone wants to take from you, let them do it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

It's actually a life hack. You can say no, that's illegal.

[Mary Morgan]

Some of these, like career criminals, congenital criminals, they don't think, think 15 seconds into the future. So they do not have a fear of going to jail or getting caught or getting hurt in a fight. They don't have that fear.

[Tim Pool]

So it's a coin toss. So there was this study they did where they took people who were convicted of multiple violent crimes against people and they made them watch videos of people walking down the street. Then they were asked, who out of these people, if they were going to rob somebody, who would they Rob. And sure enough, the people they chose had been robbed before. The people they did not were not robbed before. And the researchers believe it was the way they carried themselves. Yeah, either the person was distracted or the person carried themselves with confidence. The people who are going to rob you, not always, but they're looking for an easy get. None of these guys who are robbing you want. I saw there's another viral video you may have seen where there's a handful of these, man, it's crazy. I watched one today where they're robbing a convenience store, and it's like some fat dude and he's sitting behind the counter with his hands up, and they go through the register, and when the other guy walks to his buddy, he grabs a gun and just drops him instantly. And they run off. There's another video from Vegas that went super viral. We covered at the time.

[Elaine Coladi]

Wait, who dropped who?

[Tim Pool]

The store. The shopkeeper pulled out a gun and.

[Elaine Coladi]

Dropped him right there.

[Tim Pool]

There was a viral video out of Vegas where two guys walk into a head shop with, like, a vape shop or something, wearing masks, and one guy tries going around the counter, and when the clerk runs to him, the other guy jumps over. So the clerk's got a knife in his hand and just boom, boom, boom, over and over again. And you hear the. The robber going, stop, stop. Oh, I'm dead. And then just collapses. He didn't die, though. But this shopkeeper never got in any trouble. They were like, you got masked guys robbing you?

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, in la, you'd go straight to.

[Tim Pool]

Jail if you stabbed him.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, in New York, too.

[Elaine Coladi]

No. First of all, you said something really interesting.

[Tim Pool]

This was Vegas.

[Elaine Coladi]

You said that you were getting. You were getting mugged or whatever, and the police came. See, in la, that doesn't happen.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, I got lucky.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah. Well, in la, the deal is, is that they want you to drive your car and leave the windows open and park it with nothing in it so that no one breaks the.

[Tim Pool]

You guys remember Benny Johnson went to California and while he was filming, someone tried breaking into his SUV to steal his stuff.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

It's. It's comedy. It's. It's insane.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's insane. They're like, don't wear your jewelry out when you're going on a walk. I'm like, you. And if you call 91 1, you're like. You're like, hello, 91 1. They're like, what's your emergency? I'm like, you guys are. Where are you? We've been calling that.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's Exactly. But that's. Exactly. That's the same as not having a society.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No one's going to protect you. You literally have to fend for yourself.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, but it's worse than that because you live in.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Exactly. It's anarcho tyranny. You will get in trouble if you do fight.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

8, 500 police officers for 4 million people.

[Tim Pool]

So here's what you got to do. Here's what you got to do. I mean, if you're. If you're in California and you're walking down the streets of like, LA or whatever and some guy comes and robs you, you need to, you need to call the police and describe yourself as the robber. And then the police will come and they'll be like, that's the burglar. How can we help?

[Mary Morgan]

That's. That's the point.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Where are the socioeconomic factors that made you do this?

[Mary Morgan]

People believe that stealing is a victimless crime. This is the point that we reach and, you know, we learn it from childhood. I've been reading about, like, the history of anti bullying campaigns, and one of the, one of the policies that so many schools implemented is that it doesn't matter who started the fight. You all get in trouble.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Mary Morgan]

So you're taught not to fight back when you were the victim of bullying.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's like they did when I was an Irish family.

[Tim Pool]

See, I just, I don't, I don't. I don't live in that world, I guess. I mean, maybe I'm lucky. And it's like the last chapter out of NOM scenario where it's so much worse now than it was when I was younger. But I'd get into a fight. I just, I don't care. I refuse to live in this. I've heard all these stories and I've had everybody tell me, if someone comes up to you and they're robbing you, just give in. And I'm like, I'm not gonna do it.

[Mary Morgan]

That study you mentioned, they did the same one with sex offenders. They identified women who seem like easy targets. They're the ones who are not aware of their surroundings. Looking at their phones, their posture is very. It's turned inwards.

[Tim Pool]

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[Mary Morgan]

Eye contact and looking around you. They're not going to try to victimize you.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I, you know, one other strategy you do, I think. I can't remember which, which. Which sitcom this is from, but it was a woman, and she said, she, she dress. She. She dresses like a schizo. And she, she walks down the street twitching and screaming and yelling at random things. She's like, I've never been bugged once.

[Mary Morgan]

That's what you got to do. You got to start barking at them.

[Elaine Coladi]

Like, just never shower.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, I don't know if you want to live that way.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, this is, this goes back to what I was saying earlier, which is that people are shaped by the stories they hear. For decades, every single time you saw a criminal on television, they were stealing bread to feed their family. Right? This is what we have internalized. This is a narrative that we've been sold, is that people literally only steal things. They only break the law because at some point they were victimized and it's society's fault. I love the Fulton Sheen quote. He said there was no poverty in the Garden of Eden. Right? That's actually very important part of that story. People will do bad things even if they have everything.

[Tim Pool]

Right?

[Seamus Coughlin]

And if that wasn't true, then, then how could we persist with this narrative that rich people are bad and rich people want to victimize others because they have all the materials that they could possibly need. That's why you got to help me tell the right stories.

[Mary Morgan]

Twisted plots.com Jeff Bezos should just venmo everyone $1 billion and then this wouldn't be.

[Tim Pool]

Don't you guys remember laws? Don't you remember when Bloomberg was running and on. I think it was NBC News. That woman, I can't remember her name. She was like, I just saw this. Mayor Bloomberg spent $500 million on his campaign, and there are 300 million Americans. He could give every American a million dollars. And I think it was Brian Williams. He was like, it's actually pretty crazy. That's true. And everyone's like, you guys, it's $1.60. What's wrong with you?

[Elaine Coladi]

They figured out in LA that we've spent $900,000 per homeless person per year.

[Tim Pool]

How much?

[Elaine Coladi]

900,000.

[Tim Pool]

Just give them the 900 per homeless.

[Mary Morgan]

How is that possible?

[Elaine Coladi]

Because they can't find this $28 billion or something. It's my A.

[Tim Pool]

Welcome to L A L A intentionally keeps all these People homeless, insane.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's.

[Tim Pool]

It's called the homeless industrial complex. It's not a joke. I know.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, no, yeah, it's real.

[Tim Pool]

They, they get government funding from it. They lie to people. They, they don't want to solve the problem. And that's what happens when you get Democrat super majority in your, in your city, in your state, in your county or whatever. So California is cooked. Um, I don't, I don't know how much better off we're gonna be because I don't know that Trump can actually do anything. Let me, let's jump to this story. We've got this from the post. Millennial former Coast Guard lieutenant, self identified antifa member, found not guilty of soliciting and assassination of Trump. Now the issue you may be asking yourself, what did he do? They say an affidavit accused Stinson of calling for the assassination of Trump repeatedly since 2020. One post saying, the orange man must go at any cost. Another said, you see Trump drowning. What are you doing? He said that he would feel like he would hit him in the head with an oar. He says he wants to study on same same with him. In response to another user's post, same month, he wrote, somebody ought to do more than sue. Sue the orange MF's SS. And it involves a rifle and a scope. But I can't talk about it here. I'd be willing to pitch in a hundred dollars for a contract. We could solve the solvable part of this, of this problem in a crack. I'll drive. I'm willing to drive. He needs. Okay. He kept saying it over and over again. So it's a clear crime.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Clear man.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but the problem is we live in. We are in a civil war. I mean, again, I say that in the figurative sense. We are clearly in a period of civil strife with factions. And when they brought this case, it took him two hours to acquit the guy for calling for the murder of Donald Trump. Have fun with where we're going next because Jennifer, what's her name, Jennifer Welch from I've had it podcast is getting tons of attention right now because she said if Democrats don't get on board with them murdering or wanting to murder conservatives, the Democrats will get the same treatment, implying they will kill the Democrats unless Democrats get on board with killing conservatives. That's where we're at. She's not been banned. She's allowed to keep doing her podcast and she's wealthy because of it. So if, if we can't criminally prosecute A guy who said stuff like this, then I guess guys order your 25 year beans now.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, take it further. You know Jay. Was it Jay Jones that wrote the. The.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

And he's running for office and his. I want to murder Republicans and babies and their. You.

[Tim Pool]

If this guy wins, the whole party.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Wants to murder babies. Right. But like him in particular, he wanted.

[Elaine Coladi]

To kill kids, but he's running for office.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And he only lost like three points when that got exposed. Now, Yara's. I'm probably pronouncing that wrong. Is expected to win in the prediction markets. We don't know for sure, but we're five minutes from Virginia. We're in the. It's technically the tri state, but Pennsylvania is a half an hour drive, so you can get anywhere pretty quickly. You drive down any one of these roads into Virginia and you will see signs for Jay Jones and all the houses. Yeah, they don't care. And I want to make sure this is clear with this, with a story like this. My wife was asking me about the Trump 34 felony conviction because we did this debate last Friday with Brian Shapiro and it's gone massively viral. I had, I had no idea what. But I'm getting hit up by tons of people being like, oh, you roasted that. I'm like, oh, whatever. I'm sure he's got clips of me and the left is showing those as well. So my wife asks me, well, what. What's Trump accused of doing? And I said, falsification of business records in furtherance of a crime. And she said, did Trump commit any crime? No, he did not. Because the accusation in that case is that Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, believed a insinuation from Trump's CFO was the order to pay Stormy Daniels. Did Trump ever tell you to do it? No, he did not. Did Trump ever tell you to conceal anything? No, he didn't, but I knew he wanted to. Trump's guilty. That's what they did. On top of that, it's the first time in history, and we clarified this yesterday, fact check. I was mistaken. It is not the first time they've used that law. 17175 was it 171750. I think it is. 1750.10. I thought it was the first time they ever use it without an underlying charge. That is incorrect. It's the first time they've ever done it without a clearly spelled out crime in the, in the indictment. Meaning in every instance, New York has charged someone with falsification of business records and furtherance of a crime. They required unanimity among the jurors as to the crime intended to be committed, spelled out in the indictment, meaning proven beyond a reasonable doubt. With Trump, they said, I pick it later. Yeah, pick it later, and you figure it out. Which has never been done before.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's exactly what they did.

[Tim Pool]

So she asked me, has Trump. She said, okay, hold on, I understand that, but what did Trump do? Like, he didn't do anything, even according to the charge. And then she asked, then how did he get convicted? Because New York is D plus 30. That means any jury will convict any Trump supporter or conservative. We saw this with J6ers when judges wouldn't let them bring in video evidence that was exculpatory. The judge is like, no, that. That come in like, but this proves I'm innocent. The judge is like, don't care.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's not a jury of your peers.

[Tim Pool]

It's certainly not. And now that we have two different countries occupying the same territory, this man who clearly called for the murder of Trump, they let him go.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

In Virginia. Unsurprising.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, and so you. I know you were talking about Jay Jones and how he isn't expected to win the race anymore, but the fact that that's even a question at all.

[Elaine Coladi]

The fact that he's running.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, the fact that he's still running, that his party didn't go. You know what? Let's. Let's. That's find someone who isn't talking about killing children in there. Is anybody Is, like, probably an indication that either they know the voters don't care or they can't find anyone. Like, they can't find anyone who doesn't want children dead.

[Tim Pool]

So this is actually pretty amazing. Wow. So call. She has the. The prediction market. Will Jay Jones drop out of the Virginia Attorney General race? No, he won't. At this point, it's a 1%. And if we actually look at the attorney general race, he still got a 33% chance in the prediction market. That is insane to me that a man could say that his rival's children should be murdered and if he had the choice, he would shoot his Republican rival twice in the head. That's what he said in these texts. And they're like, you know, it's 2 to 1 that he. He loses.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So it's not that 33.

[Tim Pool]

But I will say this first.

[Elaine Coladi]

And didn't he call, too? Didn't he make a phone call, too, after.

[Tim Pool]

But we didn't see. We don't know it was in the phone call, we just know that there were texts after the fact, so. So I do need to say this. I'm legally required to say shout out to Kalshee for sponsoring the show, and really do appreciate it. I also would like to point out, just before you jump in, Seamus, should J. Jones win? The point I was making about Trump and his convictions and this guy being let go, I don't know that I can drive through Virginia, I'll get pulled over by some commie cop, and he's going to be like, you got improper turn signals there, buddy? And then I'll be like, I don't know what you're talking about, because I did it. Right? He's like, well, let's take a Whoa, I smell drugs out of the vehicle. Then he's going to say, look what I found. And no. And it's going to be. Every jury in Virginia that they're going to put together is going to be like, he's a Trump supporter. Lock him up.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

If Jay Jones wins, it's bad enough in Virginia they acquitted a guy who literally was calling for the assassination of Trump and saying he wanted to do it, and they let him go. If this AG gets in, yeah, we're. We're. We're headed down a very, very obvious and dark path.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. I think that, again, like I said, the fact that they didn't replace him, they didn't pull him out of the race, he didn't step down, this wasn't that much of a scandal for them. And then they tried to, like, wave a group chat in our face a couple of days later, as if that was equally bad and would distract us from this. It was too, so transparent. It was so obvious, and it was so indicative of the major flaw with the Democratic Party, which is that. And I mean this truly, sincerely, it's not hyperbole. They literally hate innocent life. This is why abortion is the cornerstone of their entire platform. They hate innocence in general. That's why they always want to push grooming. They want these drag queens to be reading in front of children. They always push as much degeneracy as they possibly can because they hate being reminded that there's more to the world than their own hideousness. And so when someone like J. Jones says, I hope their children die, he really means that. I want to what? And I got to say this, too. We've all gotten angry over politics, right? But I have never, at any point, been so angry about politics that I wanted someone else's kid to die because that doesn't come from a place of anger, comes from a place of sickness.

[Tim Pool]

It doesn't. Agreed. Wanting someone else's child to be murdered doesn't solve any of your problems. So why would anyone want that to happen? If I had a problem with Seamus, like, let's say, for instance, he stole a very rare spoon of mine that once belonged to a grandmother, and I was mad at him and he denied it. And I said, I'm so mad at you, Seamus. You have wronged me. Why would I hope for his children? It's not gonna bring my spoon back.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. Yep.

[Tim Pool]

You know, nothing apparently will bring my.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Spoon back because there's something about.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's a form of tribalness. It's a form of tribalness to. To carry it from generation to generation, which is a big problem that we are suffering here in our country.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, Seamus, since you brought up the YR's group chat scandal that broke and got way more attention for whatever reason.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Mary Morgan]

It also points out a fatal flaw in the Republican Party because they caved immediately. All of these guys got fired and condemned publicly.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Were they all fired?

[Mary Morgan]

And we've all.

[Tim Pool]

This is why I don't like Republicans.

[Mary Morgan]

I think that pretty much all of those men got fired. Yes.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to make a new party and it's going to be called the Shmeep Republicans. No, I was gonna say the bad boys. And what is it? The bad dude.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Bad dude who runs a bunch of bad boys.

[Tim Pool]

That's what I was gonna say. The bad dude who runs a bunch of bad boys.

[Mary Morgan]

And you know that. I don't know if it was ever proven that Gavin Wax was the one responsible for leaking it, but he didn't face any consequences.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we don't know who did what, but all I know is they're all a bunch of whiny babies. And the Republican Party is just so weak. Yeah, you know, I've said it before. I'll say it again. The one thing I truly respect the. The Democrats for is how unscrupulous they are in the face of, like. You know, it's amazing because I look at some of these podcasts that woman, Jennifer Welch or whatever name is, where she's like, get on board with killing conservatives. And I'm like, man, she's just. She's chiseled and just beaten herself so mercilessly that all that is left of her heart is a withered husk of scar tissue. It takes a lot of work to get there. I am impressed with how people like Adam Schiff can just like crazy eye you at the camera and lie and they feel nothing. That's a tr. That takes, that takes a tremendous, tremendous guts.

[Mary Morgan]

We don't need to be evil to win. We just need to take our own side.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, no, it's true.

[Mary Morgan]

We don't have to be like them.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Just enforce the laws we already have.

[Mary Morgan]

Enforce the law, take your own side, don't cancel.

[Tim Pool]

Well, look, we tried, we tried. He got let go. So that, that's my point. The conversation we had with Arne McIntyre last week is the sovereign, is he who makes the exemptions and.

[Elaine Coladi]

Is the case over? Are they going to take it up?

[Tim Pool]

No, it's, it's acquitted.

[Elaine Coladi]

They won't go.

[Tim Pool]

Double jeopardy. You can't bring it back.

[Elaine Coladi]

I didn't know if it was going to go to a higher court or.

[Tim Pool]

That's that you can't. I believe that would be double jeopardy. He's been found not guilty. They can't bring it back. So, you know, I hope you guys have prepared for the worst while you hope for the best because I've been saying that these people should get arrested and silly me, they did arrest a guy, they did charge him and a jury let him go. So I'll say it again and shout out to Wilt Chamberlain because this is, this was, this was his, this is his argument. A society that tolerates the veneration of assassins and celebrates assassinations is a society that has opened the door to civil war. And that's why he was saying these people should be banned from social media. And I said, you know what, I didn't agree at first. Now I completely agree. The people that are online celebrating assassinations and calling for more should be insta. Banned. They're not going to be more than banned. So I can tell you this. I really do feel like the prediction of what's to come is obvious and I hope I'm completely wrong. Unfortunately for me, I kind of remember all the shows I've done over the past several years where I've warned the escalation was coming and it did. And so I can only assume at this point I'm probably right. So I'll be digging a hole starting tomorrow. You know, Seamus, if you want to help out.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, why not?

[Tim Pool]

Guys love digging holes, but we're gonna dig it real deep. Then we're going to build a 30 foot deep underground bunker.

[Seamus Coughlin]

We can't tell about this. They can't know.

[Tim Pool]

They won't know where it is. About this, I'm Gonna find it.

[Elaine Coladi]

Stop talking about it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You gotta, like. All right, find a good spot, terrible.

[Elaine Coladi]

Voice, and don't talk about you.

[Tim Pool]

Are we going to build it? Just whisper. We're going to build it in Harper's Ferry. Okay, perfect. Just right in the. Are we able to dig there? We have to call if there's cable lines or something. I don't want to cut through anything. No, we need the cable lines.

[Elaine Coladi]

You got to get a dig.

[Tim Pool]

How are we going to play PlayStation? I'm saying we don't want to cut.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Them when we dig on accident.

[Tim Pool]

Nah, you just damage them. You just. What you do is you cut your finger open and you put a small neodymium magnet in it and stitch it up, and that allows you to feel where the electrical lines are.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, that's right. Yeah. Old wives trick. Old wives tale.

[Tim Pool]

This is actually true. I'm not making this up.

[Elaine Coladi]

What? What? What? Why can't we see this as the beginning of trying to use the law to incarcerate and punish people who do say things online? Maybe this is the beginning of it. I know it didn't work, but I don't think it.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think it matters because we.

[Elaine Coladi]

Got to respect free speech, though. I mean, where do you start? Right? You want to start somewhere?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, I think explicit.

[Tim Pool]

The issue is. Several years ago, I was involved in a copyright issue around music. And I called, I was speaking with two different lawyers, and they basically said, okay, you probably have a case. Let's. Venue is important. If you try this case or file this case in a Democrat jurisdiction, you'll lose in two seconds. And I said, what does this have to do? Well, you're a Trump supporter. You will bring it before a judge. They're gonna say, trump supporter. Throw it out, side with the corporation in two seconds. So they said, we should file this in a heavy Trump district where they're going to side with you for being a Trump supporter. And I was like, but this is about music. And they were like, and this is not the way the courts work right now. And venue selection has become one of the most important things. This guy was found not guilty because he's charged in Virginia, tried by a jury of his peers who thought that what he did was just. So when you have Democrats in New York say it doesn't matter if you can prove Trump did something wrong. Trump is so evil, he must be stopped. This is heading in one direction.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right.

[Tim Pool]

So, and I'll stress this, too, for all these conservatives that think there's a Big conspiracy in. In the elections with cheating. The one thing they really need to consider is that you do not need a conspiracy for a cult. This is called a standalone complex. One of the theories about 2020 was that all of these Democrats working in polling locations or doing signature verification did not need to be told what to do. They hated Trump so much that they would be like a Trump vote. I can't read that signature garbage. Biden vote. Close enough. Throw it in. If you do that 10,000 times across the country, Trump can't win. So for all the. I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying you can't control for these things. If we do start going after people for this. Let's take a look at Kat Abu Ghazala. She gets. She's literally on video putting her hands. It appears. Well, she's blocking the police vehicle. I don't know if her hands are literally on it, but she. Her body is up against it, and that's what she's charged with, obstruction. If they bring in an Illinois jury, she will be acquitted, and then the jury will offer her government money. They're gonna be like, what more can we do for you, criminal? Because we don't care. You're opposed to Trump. Nothing you do is illegal.

[Elaine Coladi]

I don't disagree with you. What I'm saying is that you have to start somewhere because, you know, just banning people arbitrarily off the Internet could also get really wily.

[Tim Pool]

Arbitrarily?

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah. Well, I mean, it would be arbitrary because it. Because there's not a court case.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Right.

[Elaine Coladi]

You're just saying. I don't like that. And you're. And if the law.

[Tim Pool]

But, but, but banning is not a criminal action. So you don't need a court case to ban someone.

[Elaine Coladi]

Right, so then it would be arbitrary because it wouldn't be a hearing. It was just.

[Tim Pool]

That's not arbitrary.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, sure it would be if. If it's just left up to. Who is it left up to?

[Tim Pool]

The company that runs X or YouTube.

[Elaine Coladi]

Right. So.

[Tim Pool]

So they have. They.

[Elaine Coladi]

I agree with you. So. So I wouldn't say those things.

[Tim Pool]

Glorification of murder is a bannable offense on YouTube. And YouTube is not banning this woman who said.

[Elaine Coladi]

And it should be banned, so she.

[Tim Pool]

Should get banned for it.

[Elaine Coladi]

But people write things and they. They are not banned. And they're not. And nothing happens. And they should be like J. Jones. So my point is, is.

[Tim Pool]

Well, he texted someone his personal opinion. That's allowed, but he should not be in a political Race.

[Elaine Coladi]

In any case, though, they went. They went to court. Now they lost, and I get it. But they did go to court, and I think it's really important to say that they went to court, they lost.

[Tim Pool]

And they lost a crime.

[Elaine Coladi]

It is a crime. And they lost because of the judges. I agree with you. As long as we. Or the jury and the judge. Was it a jury?

[Tim Pool]

Was it the jury? It was a jury trial. And they. They deliberated for two hours and then acquitted them.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, in Virginia, they probably would have lost with the judge, too. I mean, the judges are also bad. I mean that. The point is, though, that they did prosecute him. And I think it's really important that they do prosecute crimes when they happen, regardless of what the outcome might be. We can't stop prosecuting because there's no way to win.

[Tim Pool]

Of course, that's my point. We should go after more people. My point is that we're going to see more acquittals, and we are. Actually. I wouldn't be surprised if overt acts of terror end up getting acquitted. That you'll get some antifa guy. I mean, look at Portland arresting conservatives. The only reason Portland actually shut down the antifa protests was because Trump won in the 9th Circuit and was going to send in the National Guard. And they don't want the National Guard to come in because then that gives Trump more control and authority in any capacity in the city. So they said, take out antifa and then we can argue to the courts he can't send the National Guard in now because there's no longer a criminal presence.

[Elaine Coladi]

A lot of people really liked the National Guard when it was in la, by the way.

[Tim Pool]

I wouldn't be surprised. I think. I think the issue is really helpful.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What were people. Yeah, I'm curious what people on the ground were actually saying, because obviously all the press was gonna show us is that everyone thought it was fascism and Trump is bad because he's orange.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, what had happened after the fires burned is the National Guard came with female. And so we had a lot of National Guard right after the fires, and they were parked everywhere and they protected everything and they were very nice to people. And because it was the fires, everybody loved having them there. And then when they left, there was so much looting and so many problems that everybody that was, you know, experienced having them there was like, can we get them back? So when the National Guard came for the rioting, it was like, bring them. Because it's. There's obviously the people downtown that were looting and rioting didn't want them there. But I can tell you right now, most people in Los Angeles were really, really relieved they were there.

[Mary Morgan]

I just don't understand how people living in LA have not been radicalized by their experiences and still vote for this.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's a really good question. I'm working on a documentary. It's called Mayors Matter and I'm visiting all 52 mayors in the state that have a fairly decent mayoral position. And so far I've interviewed several. And the majority of the mayors that I've interviewed, surprisingly both Democrat and Republican, number one priority on their list is safety in their streets, police and safety. So things are quite different when you really break it down and you talk to mayors of smaller cities. You know, they also don't want to, you know, house homeless people. They're like, look, we shouldn't have this problem and this shouldn't be. They shouldn't be dropping them off in our city. You know, we do and we can only have so many beds and those beds are transitional. They can't be just living here. We're not just going to create housing for them. So it's very interesting how, how things really are when you start talking to the mayors of the cities.

[Mary Morgan]

Homeless don't even want housing. That's not the, that's the dumbest thing that people say about homelessness is that that they're in need of or desire housing.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, also, you know, we have anti camping rules that, you know, they kind of lifted during COVID because of the, you know, the desperation to find places for people outside. But once you put the camping anti camping rules back in place, you know, people can't loiter anymore, so they move to places that they can, like a campsite and then it's every three days they gotta move or something like that. Point being, there's a way around it that you can do it legally. And if you talk to the mayors from all the cities, they don't have the same feeling that you see on the news where they just don't want anybody there. They don't want chaos. They don't want. None of us want it. I don't want it. And I live in the Palisades, you know.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, I mean, that should in theory transcend politics if politics were just a matter of human affairs. But I think it is very sad that we're at the point where I think in the past people maybe had loftier ambitions for government about the problems it could solve. And I were like, please, just like, can I just leave my bike Somewhere locked and come back and it's still there. Right. Can I please not have my window smashed in? Can I please not have stuff broken? Can I not have my store broken into, enough stuff stolen? Rule of law has been completely disrespected and disregarded. And it's become a topic of political debate. Even though, as you said, all the mayors will actually say, when it comes down to it, yes, this is the most important thing to me. We have to make sure we have this. When it comes to their political rhetoric, it unfortunately isn't the case.

[Elaine Coladi]

I mean, I think that select, there might be some like that. But I think the majority of mayors, both Democrat and Republican, want safe communities for the kids. And they'll do anything to get it. They'll work really hard at it. I mean, look, there's, we spend just on the executive branch of government, $40 billion a year on 275,000 people working for the state. Just think about that. Yeah, I mean, We've only got 17 and a half million people paying taxes. Like, and that doesn't include all the people in all those Cities. That's another 250,000 people. So, you know, you have half a million people working in a, in a state with 17 and a half people, 17 and a half million people paying taxes. I mean, it just, it's just not sustainable. So if you sit and talk to people and you really, you know, say, look, what's really important to you, without all the rhetoric, without all of the, you know, Trump this and Gavin and their big fight, because he's cuz Gavin Newsom has ruined any chance of a relationship with the Trump administration.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He's completely torpedoed 100%. There's zero chance.

[Elaine Coladi]

So California's not in the conversation. And the people that are good in California that really want to see, you know, things better in California, like me, you know, coming out and talking to EPA and saying, hey, will you help us clean up California? Because the EPA can step over, you know, any California legislation, they can step right in. So for me, I'm just going to, you know, do my best to circumvent the, you know, the Newsom administration and ask for help because we need it.

[Tim Pool]

I want to pull up a video for, for, for Mary, because you, you asked why people would keep voting for this kind of stuff. This is from Zack Sage last month. And it's an amazing video which basically explains why these people keep voting the way they do. Let's, let's roll tape our. Can I get your signature for support?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Sure. Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, I'm required by law. I just have to read you, like, three of these calls.

[Elaine Coladi]

You're cool.

[Seamus Coughlin]

To elect a mayor who won't condemn Sharia law. Okay, cool.

[Elaine Coladi]

I don't know about that.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, you don't?

[Mary Morgan]

Well, what. What is this?

[Seamus Coughlin]

It's just like, a lot of his policy positions and stuff.

[Tim Pool]

You have to recognize the DSA's Bill of Rights socialism. So he'd replace the Bill of Rights with. You can read all this.

[Seamus Coughlin]

This is out there. You still want to do it or. No? Oh, he's going to tax white people higher.

[Tim Pool]

It's on his website first.

[Mary Morgan]

I just don't think that this is exactly his policies.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You can look all of it up. No, this is literally the first thing.

[Tim Pool]

On his website about taxing whiter neighborhoods.

[Seamus Coughlin]

This is true?

[Tim Pool]

No, it literally says, oh, my God.

[Elaine Coladi]

I don't know what's going on.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Wait, so you voted for the primary, but you didn't know?

[Tim Pool]

It's a cult. These people should not be allowed to vote. I'm sorry, it just.

[Mary Morgan]

No, it doesn't literally say whiter neighborhoods.

[Tim Pool]

This is why they keep voting for it, because they are cognitively impaired and arrogant. We need to stop teaching people that they're beautiful little snowflakes that are. That are the main characters of their own story. And we should tell especially Seamus, and we should stop telling people that they need to be in charge of everything. It is okay to not be the boss. You can be like, hey, man, look, I understand. I'm not an expert on this policy stuff, so I defer to you. People like this. This is what you get in these urban environments where they're like, no, you must be wrong.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, it's women.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, if you're saying repeal the 19th.

[Mary Morgan]

If we're being honest. Look, we're never going to reveal the 19th. I mean, I hope that this. I don't poorly, but we're never going to repeal the 19th. It's not worth talking about. I don't think women who are voting for this stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, but the issue I see is that you've got greater male variability hypothesis. And so it's. How did. Let me put it like this. How is it possible for women to vote for these things?

[Mary Morgan]

Well, they're not responsible for the outcome.

[Tim Pool]

No, but how is it possible for them to literally walk into a polling station and vote for it?

[Mary Morgan]

A Men protecting them.

[Tim Pool]

What do you mean?

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, of course they're able to vote because men protect their rights.

[Tim Pool]

Because. Because men decided women should vote.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it's like humans. It's just what humans do. At some point, guys were like, women vote. And now women are voting and you're like, women shouldn't vote, but it's guys who let them do it. So it's a circular problem. Like there are stupid men and there are stupid women. And the issue largely, I think is. Let me ask you, let me ask everybody watching at home this question. Did you know that not a single woman has ever won the Chess Open World Championship? So the question is, because they're dumb. Why? Why is there an Open division and a women's division?

[Mary Morgan]

Women aren't as good at chess.

[Tim Pool]

I think the answer is very simply because there can only be one world champion. But then there is greater male variability hypothesis, meaning there's going to be way more stupid guys, but way more smart guys. And if you've got one slot and 900 men and 20 women, it's going to be a guy.

[Mary Morgan]

Yeah. Seamus, you mentioned, I think on pcc, this like idea that, you know, women are cooks and men are chefs.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No, I didn't. You mentioned that.

[Mary Morgan]

So it was something that came up in our conversation about, like, men become.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Obsessive about the thing they're interested in.

[Mary Morgan]

When it comes to literally any field, any skill, any hobby. The people who are psychotically good at something are men.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Because they obsess. It's true. Men will like obsess over a thing, even get really good at it.

[Mary Morgan]

This recent TwitchCon, this like Twitch event, they did a bunch of video game tournaments and I guess there was a women's division and a dude who thinks he's a woman won. It's because. Well, first of all, it's because women accept this shit. I mean, they just put a bunch of trans identifying males on the COVID of Glamour for Women of the Year.

[Tim Pool]

No, what women?

[Mary Morgan]

Because women accept this shit. But secondly, it's because men are going to exceed the abilities of women at things.

[Tim Pool]

Rachel Zegler's a guy.

[Mary Morgan]

Things like chess. Well, Rachel Zegler was one of the winners. But in the uk, it was the Glamour UK cover. JK Rowling actually posted about it.

[Tim Pool]

I was surprised.

[Mary Morgan]

I thought, like, when I was younger, women's magazines told us to be prettier and thinner and now they're telling us that men are better women than we are. And it's true. And this happens because women are on the editorial teams that make these decisions and women are the ones buying it off the shelves.

[Tim Pool]

Are you saying women should also not be in the workforce?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, this weird thing will also happen with these publications where in the same way that the people who've controlled our media have told us bad stories to reshape our minds, they've tried to groom women through putting things in women's literature that, like, historically, women haven't sought out.

[Mary Morgan]

This is the history of Cosmopolitan.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, yeah. Where they'll put things in it to get women to behave in ways that are not, like, historically typical.

[Mary Morgan]

In Cosmo, they published guest essays under pen names that were completely fictional about casual hookups in order to glamorize the lifestyle of the Cosmo girl. But it was completely made up. And you're absolutely right that women's minds have been hijacked by this stuff.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, yeah. And so I know people say, like, oh, women are buying these magazines. It's like, yes. But what you got to remember is just because there's a demand for something doesn't mean the demand is going to be filled. And this comes along. This is the case for men's entertainment and women's entertainment. We're like, what is being sold is not necessarily what's demanded. It's the demand that the establishment is willing to fulfill. It's the demand that the people who are creating are willing to fulfill. And those people have an agenda.

[Tim Pool]

Democracy is a mistake.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's what I was saying.

[Mary Morgan]

Bored with that. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Founding fathers didn't like democracy either.

[Seamus Coughlin]

They like.

[Elaine Coladi]

They want.

[Tim Pool]

We don't have one they wanted to replace.

[Mary Morgan]

Universal suffrage was not part of the authorship of the Founding fathers.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Seriously. So I think we need to. We need a system of governance. How do we have, like, a meritocratic political system? The challenge is this. You want the best at the job to do the job, but politics is the one place where that it's not possible. Yeah, you can. You can have somebody like, okay, whoever can run faster and climb higher is going to be the firefighter. I guess you're strong enough to do it. You can have jobs like race car driver. It's like, well, certainly you're winning and you're not.

[Seamus Coughlin]

They're like cartoonists.

[Tim Pool]

I know.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Go to twisted plots.com, support it.

[Tim Pool]

Right. So, but how do you do that for politics? How do you. How do you figure out if someone actually is good at running systems? And here's the other problem. Let's say they are. And they go, we have to cut snap benefits for 37 million people. But they'll revolt. But we have to. I mean, I'm telling you, I'm the expert. We have to do it. They're going to Be like, okay, they'll chop your head off.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, this is exactly why I say almost every night that I'm on the show that we need to hold to the principle of subsidiarity and keep things operating at the most local possible level. Because monarch things are federalized. When things are federalized, Subsidiary and monarchy aren't the same thing. But you can have a monarchist system that follows subsidiarity. The point though is that things that have to be handled to the most local level should be handled to the most local possible level. And when you don't do that, you end up with a bloated federal government. And as you mentioned, Tim, it's hard to find people who are competent enough to do these jobs. If someone is competent enough to do all of the things that someone in a role in the federal government should theoretically be able to do. Like they're not gonna work for the federal government. They're gonna make a lot of money in the. When things are done at the local level, A, less bandwidth is required from the person in the position. And B, you know, hyper competent people are more willing to give back to their community the people around.

[Tim Pool]

Right, right, right. I agree. But at a federal level. But you can't also run this government without federal level politicians. And it's always going to devolve the way it is. Yep. So look, I was, I mentioned this. I was talking. I did an interview with Rand, Senator Rand Paul. And I said to him that there's not gonna be any member of Congress, maybe just he and Thomas Massie who will campaign on I will cut your benefits. No one will do it. Republicans say we'll keep your benefits the way they are. We won't touch them. And Democrats say we'll double them. And that's the only direction you can move. Otherwise no one will vote for you. And that's what's going to happen until the system explodes. And because this woman is as dumb as a box of rocks. And I feel bad saying that. Cause I'm not trying to insult rocks.

[Elaine Coladi]

Wait a sec. Okay. Wait a sec. You're gonna sell a lot of stuff.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Or Boss, first of all, a lot of stuff.

[Elaine Coladi]

Being a woman voter. A lot of women vote and they vote correctly. They just don't tell their husbands. Cause I know I have a lot of friends. But also I wanna talk to you about running up and running down. What happens in California and a lot of other places, especially big city and big, big Democrat, is you run up the ticket or down the ticket, depending on what the DNC wants you to do, or the RNC wants you to do, or in our case, act blue. If you run on a ticket, you can pick the ticket. And that's probably what's going to happen in California for the governor's race. And it's also a jungle primary. So this governor's race could change very drastically in the coming months. Most importantly is you're absolutely right about keeping it tribal in the cities. There's a reason for that. But the biggest problem that we have in California, which how goes California, goes the rest of the country. The biggest problem that we have in California is we have no economic development. We do not grow our business at all. We have run every 6 million people have left. Every single one of them pays taxes. Nobody stayed there that doesn't pay taxes. Without economic development, the only option for a state is to raise taxes. You can't cut benefits because you got to get rid of the people that need those benefits. It's a different problem altogether. You've got to have economic development. And if we don't have it, which we haven't had in California for three decades. One of the most interesting things about mayors matter is that I have asked if the. The lieutenant governor of our state has visited any of the mayors that I've interviewed so far, and the answer is no. All of them. No, they don't. Fourteen didn't know who she was. So at the end of the day, if you don't have economic development in your state, you cannot grow your base. You can only survive by charging higher taxes. And that's what's happening in California.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

You have to keep it local. And then you've got to stop the Sacramento, in our case, from reaching down to small communities like Cerritos or wherever and saying, hey, we need you to put more housing in. In California. Every bill is named in a way that makes it enticing to people that want something for nothing, like the mansion tax. Mansion tax isn't mansion tax. It's transfer tax. It's a levy. It's an illegal levy on all classes of real estate. It killed the real estate market. A trillion dollars in Los Angeles, and we are all suffering from that. And Gavin Newsom is leaving, and he's going to leave our state $500 billion, half a trillion dollars in the hole.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, and this is the crazy thing. So if one particular individual has a billion dollars or their net worth is a billion, people on the left go, no one should have that much money. But then when you have these stupid policies that Literally just erase a billion dollars from the economy. Oh, that's no big deal. Who cares?

[Tim Pool]

It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Where's all of our concern about all of the things that could have been done for vulnerable people with that billion dollars that just vanished once the government wasted it instead of one guy having it? But I want to ask you something because you mentioned that you worked in real estate development. And my intuition, based on everything I've understood from the news cycles and what I know about California, is that that's an absolute nightmare out there. How do you navigate that and what do you think could be done to fix that?

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, when I saw what happened in Hawaii, I thought I'd never seen anything like it. And it's exactly what's happening to us. It's a land grab. Everybody that's in real estate in a big way, including, you know, developers I don't even want to name names, are buying up distressed, burnt real estate because it's 11 months into it, a couple.

[Mary Morgan]

Days, and we wouldn't mind if you named some names. We can't stop you.

[Elaine Coladi]

You're going to hear about them really soon. They've passed this thing called SB79, which is a high density bill. And a high density bill is the equivalent of, you know, I don't. You know, if I built a seven story building right next to your house out there, you know, how would you like that? If I just came in, rolled up and said, hey, I'm gonna put a seven story apartment building right here. They change the actual zoning.

[Tim Pool]

I would say do it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Fill it with section eight. I'd love that.

[Tim Pool]

I would like it because it would increase my property value.

[Elaine Coladi]

You think it would? Okay, so that's a good question.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So it's in the area.

[Elaine Coladi]

Part of the, part of the problem is like in New York. I think part of the biggest this. Some people are gonna argue with me, but New York was built on this stock exchange. That's what created New York. New York was the stock exchange and, you know, $4.7 trillion spinning around the earth, okay? But over since COVID you know, we got $7.8 trillion spinning around outside of the earth that none of us ever touch. Okay? And that's where Wall street lives. It doesn't live in New York anymore. You don't have to show up every day on the floor. You don't have to pull tickets and get on the phone and call everybody. So if the new mayor decides that he wants to give away New York, the majority of the Real money in New York is they're just visiting New York. Business doesn't happen in New York anymore. It happens on. It's not the same thing in California. Our Wall street is our Gold Coast. It's real estate. So it's here, it's not here. So we have to protect it or we're just going to lose it to the masses, which I don't.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of the real estate burned down and they're not going to let it be brought back.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's correct. They're going to turn it into high density housing.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, yeah. So I want to ask you about that. I mean, what do you think anything can be done to prevent this? And if you could recommend one policy for California, as someone who actually works in this field, everyone says trust the experts. I think the experts are the people who are actually able to, like, make a living in the field. So, like, as someone who is an expert in the sense that you know how the market functions well enough to operate in it. If there was one thing that the state of California could do differently to get more houses built, what would that be?

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, I was going to get more houses built.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, yeah. To get more houses built.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, I was going to say, though, if I could have one policy, it would be voter id.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, amen. Well, amen. Of course. That's a given.

[Elaine Coladi]

And debris on rail, we wouldn't drive everything on trucks and we wouldn't change zoning. Okay, number one thing you cannot do is it's called ripping the rug. You make an investment in something and then I come along and I change the zoning. Yeah, and if you're changing the zoning, then people aren't going to invest. And when you rip the rug, people won't invest. And that's by definition what's wrong with California. We change the rules after you've already made your decision. So you build. We need workforce housing. And nobody wants to call it workforce housing because they don't like the name of it. So why don't we call it, you know, employee accommodation? You know, I don't care what we call it, but if you move a company in there, you've got to give them a place to live. We tried to build a railroad, our high speed rail.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was a disaster.

[Elaine Coladi]

Okay, well, would it surprise you to know that probably 25% of the money that was used for high speed rail went into the brick and mortar structure? The rest of it went to all the people fighting the rail? So you can't, you know, it's bureaucracy cannot build. And if you have a government the size of ours with that kind of spending, you've already taken the taxpayers, they're paying 6, $7000 a year just to pay salaries for government before you, before you do anything else. That's why we don't have enough police. That's why we don't have enough fire. So in real estate, we cannot rip the rug, we cannot rezone things. And also we have property tax. Property tax is for police and fire. What does it say on your property tax bill here?

[Tim Pool]

It says we are stealing from you.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Okay.

[Elaine Coladi]

So property tax, you got to say.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No, you did in Chicago.

[Elaine Coladi]

Tim says right on it. Read it. It says what it's for.

[Tim Pool]

You can't scare me.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's probably not that terrible here, is it? The property tax.

[Tim Pool]

Taxes in West Virginia are really, really bad. Because this was a Democrat state for a long time.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And it only recently turned Republican. It has some of the worst tax law in the country.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, I'm curious because also I know there was some proposition, proposition voted on in the 90s. Last time I was in California, I was actually surprised by. I know the property taxes there seem high, but they're actually low compared to other blue states.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, that's because we have this thing called Prop 13, which is this.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right.

[Elaine Coladi]

Percent. Right. And it's. But. And it's, it's like protected by this group, they're called the Howard Jarvis Group. They're basically. They covet and protect it. And they're the gatekeepers, I should say. And they've literally fought everything off since 1979. And this mansion tax thing snuck in there. And the mansion tax, like if you have a lot in the Pacific Palisades worth 5 million doll, you are paying mansion tax on that burned out ash pile.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's crazy.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's insane.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's so.

[Elaine Coladi]

And also, you know, it affected the real estate market so badly in LA that nobody wants to trade. So the real estate just stopped trading. And that's the same as Wall street stopping trading.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

So the whole thing's affected. And if I were the governor of the state, I would never rezone with, with people that have invested. It's just not cool. And we are, we do have a housing problem, but what we really have is a homeless problem. Because we have anywhere to put them. And we're too like soft on the problem. Like you have to separate people. You have to say, hi, what's your problem? You know, come up to the table. Are you a drug addict? Are you forever homeless? Are you just having a tough time?

[Tim Pool]

Do you think that they let the wildfires happen on purpose?

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, I definitely think that they. That's a good question, and part of me does.

[Tim Pool]

So let me. Let me preface that with a couple things. First, there was the claim that, like, they didn't have. They didn't send enough firefighters out in time. There's another claim that firefighters, initially, when the fire was put out because it reignited, knew that there was still some embers, and they were instructed to leave and did. I don't know if that's true or not, but those are the rumors I see online.

[Elaine Coladi]

Okay, so what happened is we've got a pretty big environmental control that was in place about three decades ago that says we have to protect brush, thistle, which is this weird brush that grows underneath all of the forestry. We also have urban forestry. We have the Santa Monica Conservatory. We have all these groups that manage open space. None of them have any money, so they never clean it. So everywhere around is basically like a tinderbox, right? So a fire starts and it's just impossible on top of it. We have not maintained our water and our water structures and our water pumping and all of our reservoirs are all dilapidated. One was closed. The one that we use for the Palisades was closed. This is again, a problem with just maintaining infrastructure. Again, property taxes for infrastructure, police and fire in schools. That's what it's for. Okay. All of it is a shit show. Can I say that on air? Sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Well, we've already.

[Mary Morgan]

It was climate change.

[Elaine Coladi]

Beep. I just said beep. It was.

[Tim Pool]

Climate change is gone now.

[Elaine Coladi]

So now they have. Well, we definitely heated it up there. So now we have. Now we have the same problem. They were. Basically. They haven't, you know, they're not doing any brush clearance and they're not fixing the water problems. But more importantly is they found this guy that lit a fire in the Lockman fire. This little fire. It was like 10 acres or something, and they put it out. They called and put it out about 10 days before the real fires or seven days before the real fires. They put it out, and the guy went to Florida or left. Now the big thing is, did the city cause it? Did the state cause it? I don't want to push name names and say who did it, because I'm not sure. But at the end of the day, what it looks like to me is that if they have an arsonist in the middle of this thing, whether he did or didn't, it removes liability from the state and city. And to me that's like not. I mean, this kid's going to get hung up. I'm sure he lit the fire. I'm sure it was terrible. But they didn't knock it down all the way or relit.

[Tim Pool]

I think this guy like flicked a cigarette or something and then he searched on his phone. Can I get in trouble for an accidental fire or something?

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The implication being he was smoking out.

[Elaine Coladi]

At the brush and nobody's up there going, oh yeah, this guy caused these fires. What caused these fires is we didn't have any water, we didn't have. The fire department is paper thin. There's just not enough people. They've made so many cuts, half the equipment doesn't work. And then you have this massive, you know, crazy brush thing.

[Tim Pool]

I think, I think society's just crumbling. Yeah. And I'm not saying it lightly. I mean everywhere I look, society is, is fractured in some ways. I think this largely has to do with no new young people. We are in it every, every year. We had a consistently Large number of 16 year olds to enter the low skill workforce, 18 year olds, 20 year olds, except this time. So Democrats try flooding the country with illegal immigrants, thinking this might solve the problem. Of course it will not because all you're doing is bringing in Honduran farmers to try and replace what should have been assistant managers at, you know, in an office or something. It's not going to work. And so now we have all these stories. The latest one of the, the, the semi truck with the naked Chinese guy in it who can't speak English and doesn't know what street signs are because they're like, we need people, we'll take whatever. It doesn't work that way. And so I think it's crumbling. You said there's no firefighters. Yep, no firefighters. We can't even open restaurants out here because they couldn't find staff to work in the kitchens. It's crazy.

[Elaine Coladi]

I think there's also this really big disconnect with what's happening in the tech industry. I mean, you know, Amazon just laid off what, 14,000 people?

[Tim Pool]

30.

[Elaine Coladi]

Did they raise it yesterday it was 14.

[Tim Pool]

The initial report was that they were gonna cut 30,000 jobs.

[Elaine Coladi]

So yesterday was 14,000, I think. I mean that's tremendous. You know, Walmart is the large.

[Tim Pool]

14,000 was confirmed yesterday. Up to 30,000 potential.

[Elaine Coladi]

All those people that can have their million STEM degrees and all that stuff, what are they going to do? There's no shop in schools. We need to bring Back shop in high school. So how do you not have shop? How do you not teach people a basic skill set?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, we got to abolish high school.

[Elaine Coladi]

Okay, well, first of all, there's this whole thing going on. I just. While I was here, by the way.

[Tim Pool]

High school is the problem.

[Elaine Coladi]

While I was in D.C. i went to this really cool conference at Heritage, and they were talking about removing iPhones out of telephones out of schools From K through 12 because of the decline in learning. And it's tremendous if you look at the math on it. And Desensis has already. Desantis in Florida has already started it. And I'm going to propose the initiative in California. I think it's a really great idea.

[Tim Pool]

I think the school is the decline in learning. I think government institutionalized learning facilities make communists.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Ah.

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, that's probably true. Especially in college.

[Tim Pool]

It is. And I've got, I've had personal experience with some of this stuff. I tell a lot of stories. But I had one story where there's an individual I hired for a job with a master's degree and they couldn't figure out how to solve simple problems on, on, on the back end of a website. Literally something you could just Google search. It was rudimentary. I don't want to get too personal, but they said, I need to be told what to do. And I said, that's not how this works. You are hired for the job, so you do it. If I was working on the back end of a website, I'd be, I'd be the web dev. Yeah, but when you're hired for that job, you figure it out. They couldn't because they spent 24 years of their lives in an environment where they're told what to do every time as opposed to solving the problem on their own. So I say, I have no problem with some kind of education system, but our current public government institutionalization just makes communists who are dependent on government and expect government to feed them. How does it work, schools in our country, lunchtime, you go to the, you go to the cafeteria, the government food is available. It's low quality. It's crap. But the government has it for you. Got a problem, talk to the government. Then you get out. These, these young people, we, we all laughed. We're like, man, when these kids get out of college, they're in for a rude awakening. And what happened? They got out of college and they weren't. Were in for a rude awakening. Except we didn't realize they were violent and threatened these American society saying no no, no, we don't care the way you think it should be. We're going to beat you until you give us what we want. So we started seeing college students scream at the professor, get their professors fired. Then they get out of college. Now they're in the workforce. They nuked Bud Light and Target. They are just destroying everything because these people, they're voting for Zoran Mamdani and Gavin Newsom because they're just saying the government should always tell us what to do, because we raised them to think so.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, and this. This gets into this point about what they tell us, what stories they tell us. We all remember the narrative about the Great Depression. We were given in school. Everything was horrible because the government wasn't doing enough. And then FDR stepped in and saved the day. It's like, well, actually, the United States had the slowest economic recovery of any developed nation on the entire planet. FDR confiscated everybody's gold. He put people in internment camps.

[Elaine Coladi]

He.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He literally set prices based on what he thought were lucky numbers that came to him in dreams. He had more than two terms. Like, he was all of the things that they say that Trump is gonna be. He was all of the things that they warn us about Trump being. And we were told he was a hero. We're told he's, like, the best president we ever had. Why? Because he radically expanded the size and scope of government. Yeah. Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

Do you. Did you like high school?

[Seamus Coughlin]

No, I didn't like school. I didn't listen. I had some awesome teachers, but I just was not into school, I think. School.

[Elaine Coladi]

Did you like high school?

[Tim Pool]

I didn't go.

[Elaine Coladi]

Did you drop out of high school?

[Tim Pool]

I. I think I went for maybe, like. I think it was three months. And then. And then I stopped going and got homeschooled.

[Elaine Coladi]

You're super smart, though. You have a high iq.

[Tim Pool]

I. I suppose I think that probably comes from the fact that I was homeschooled before starting grade school.

[Elaine Coladi]

And.

[Tim Pool]

I think the problem for me was. I call it a problem, but I was homeschooled before starting kindergarten. So I entered grade school three or four grades ahead of everybody. And it is annoying when your teachers are lying to you and you know they're lying to you, and they lie to everybody, and that's what our schools do. So it's just all. I think I'm not gonna tell every single story about school I could, but I can tell one, which was a relatively formative moment for me, where I've known. I knew negatives before I even went to grade school, how to count negatives or whatever. And I was in, I think it was eighth grade, and I'm doodling, and the teacher had a stupid math problem. It was like, 30 minus 50, and she's gonna catch me. And she says, who can answer this question? And she yells at me. She goes, Mr.

[Mary Morgan]

Pool.

[Tim Pool]

And then I look up and I'm negative 20, and I go back to doodling little stick figures. And she goes, and what's the formula? And I was like, what formula? She's like, what's the formula for 30 minus 50? And I said, 5, 4, 3, 2. What? What? What are you talking about? There's some stupid circuitous method for flipping the minus sign and spinning it around. And I said. I said, I'm. I, I, I. I was like, I don't. I don't understand. I gave you the right answer. And she was like, yes, but we're here to learn formula. And I said, but I don't need that. If I could just do it in my head, which is like a fairly common thing that you hear all the time, A trope of the student being like, I know how to do the math. And then I said something to her like, I'm sorry if I'm smarter than you and don't have to do it the hard way. And so I got detention. And then I was like, school's fake. Because. Because she wasn't trying to teach me. She wasn't trying to improve my math skills. She was just trying to waste my time. And so I'm over this. And then what happened was, when I go to high school, I. I'm in. I'm in a public high school, and I'm sitting in a literature class where the student is going, and the teacher goes, Amazon. Amazon confirms. And I'm going, like, why am I sitting here? What a waste of my. And everyone else's time. Because the classroom can only go as fast as the slowest student.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So I got straight Fs, except for music class, and my parents freaked out and pulled me and my brother out, and then we got homeschooled instead of. And that was when I was 14. And so instead of going to high school, I skateboarded playing music and programmed video games and made websites.

[Elaine Coladi]

But you did a really good job learning.

[Tim Pool]

I think anyone could.

[Elaine Coladi]

So I have three kids, and I homeschooled one of them.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Good for you.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah. I didn't do it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's not easy.

[Elaine Coladi]

I had somebody to do it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's. That, that's that's our plan for.

[Elaine Coladi]

But he was. He needed to be homeschooled. He didn't want to be. He. He didn't fit into the whole.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think any kid school's a mess. Their intent. Listen. The most formative, most important years of a human being's life are the ages 0 through 5. And our. Our society says do nothing. Now, to be fair, there are a lot of kids programs. But what we're giving to our kids these days and in the past 20 years is psychobabble, garbled nonsense on YouTube that ranges from insane, deranged, sexualized, Sonic the Hedgehog. Not a joke. Yeah, literally what they're doing.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Creepy stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Blood, guts, murder, eating feces. And they're giving it to babies. And on the. And the best case scenario is a video from Mickey from Disney junior where it's like four hours. It's not a joke. It's. I think it's like four hours straight of Mickey Mouse singing Hot Dog that will make your kid a. And I'm not exaggerating. And so. You are. So for me, I was lucky in that I'm two and my mom's like, let's do math. Other kids are sitting in front of the screen where they're going, hot dog, hot dog.

[Elaine Coladi]

Hot dog.

[Tim Pool]

It's not a joke. I am not making a joke.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, dude, I know, I know you're.

[Elaine Coladi]

Talking about Hot dog.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I know exactly what you're talking.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean it's just wild to me that, that there is even a debate about whether phones should be in classrooms.

[Elaine Coladi]

Wait, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sorry. Mary, Mary, Mary. I'm sorry. I was wrong. It's not four hours. 14, 10 hours. Look at. I'm not joking. Disney Junior 25 million subscribers. Hot Dog Dance 10 hour version. Parents are putting this front of their babies and pressing play and it is literally 10 hours of Mickey Mouse singing the same thing. Your kids are going to be retards and they are going to have deranged worldviews about people. They're gonna get surgical Mickey Mouse ears attached to their heads. This is not a joke.

[Elaine Coladi]

So you do agree with me that we need to get these out of school.

[Tim Pool]

All of this is. Listen, my. So my daughter is now eight months old and I am my, my, my. My wife.

[Elaine Coladi]

Congratulations.

[Tim Pool]

I appreciate it. And my mother in law were playing children's music, which is the fine children's music of like the Wheels on the Bus. And I said no to this. Not that I have the unilateral authority, but I strongly expressed my disdain and changed the music. And I said, the issue is never before in the history of humanity did we have children's content until the last 60 or 70 years. Children used to learn by observing their parents. That was it. We didn't, we didn't lie to them and create fake versions of reality because babies need to see exactly what adult life is so they can absorb that and emulate it. So when you play music like Wheels on the Bus, which a lot of people are gonna be like, tim, you're a party pooper and let kids be kids. I don't care. You do whatever you want. My point is, my daughter, there's a really great song by the band Me without yout. The Fox, the Crow and the Cookie is the song. And it's the parable of the fox, the crow and the cookie, literally in an indie rock song. And I'm like, that's my limit on children's music. An actual indie rock band with a song from the 2000s. But it's the real parable of the fox. You guys know the story of the fox, the crown, the cookie, right?

[Seamus Coughlin]

No.

[Tim Pool]

The fox tries to steal the cookie, but he can't, and the crow snatches it. So the fox goes to the crow and says, Mr. Crow, would you please share? And the crow won't do it. So then he says, well, if you're not going to share it, please would you sing for me? Because your voice is so beautiful, it would, it would ease my pains and fears. And the crow, as arrogant as he is, says, well, of course I'll sing. And then the cookie falls down, the fox snatches and runs off. It's a great, it's a great parable and it's a rock song. But I'm like, my, you know the songs we're going to play, we're going to play like classic rock songs. We're going to play classical music, classic rock songs, real music that adults listen to, nothing explicit. That's, you know, later. But I don't want hot dog, hot diggity dog garbage.

[Mary Morgan]

This Ms. Rachel, she's talking to the kids like this. Hi. And then she has these really brightly colored animations on the screen trying to hyper stimulate the child's mind. And they, they literally see colors in more saturated light than adults do and hear sounds a different way at that age. It's mesmerizing. And they're glued to the screen.

[Tim Pool]

My woman, my daughter listens to Devil Went down to Georgia and, and great songs like that.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Dude, did you see the Free Bird. Do you see the viral tweet about that, about Devil Goes down to Georgia now, which one was like, it's such a uniquely American song, because in any other culture, it'd be about, like, huge hubris in challenging the devil to a fiddling contest. But of course, in this song, like, he wi. He's actually better at it than the Devil.

[Tim Pool]

That is pretty great. I mean, the song's amazing. However, I. I will. I like the other meme better. I don't know if you saw it where it said, when I was younger, I was scared because I genuinely thought the devil's band. The Devil's band sounded way better than. Yeah, what was it? It was his band of demons.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's such a great band.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right.

[Elaine Coladi]

That was a fun, fun, really great song. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Solid one.

[Elaine Coladi]

That was a real short period, though, of music. It didn't last a long time.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No, it didn't.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, to what you were saying earlier about the. The debate about, like, whether smartphones should be allowed in the classroom. It just shouldn't even be a debate. I never.

[Tim Pool]

Right there should be.

[Mary Morgan]

I was never allowed to have. I went to incredibly strict schools, and it was not even like. That wasn't even a conversation. You had to wear uniforms. You weren't allowed to express yourself. If you so much as whispered in class, it was like, you're out of here, and you either follow the rules or you're out. And we just learned that there is a hierarchy between us, the students who are meant to be taught and the teachers who are authority figures. And it just wasn't questioned.

[Tim Pool]

I do want to stress, I don't know how my daughter will end up turning out because she only watches two types of programming. Married to strangers, which is like 90 Day Fiance. And, you know, that's what women watch, because my wife watches that all the time. And then Fox News. So that's it. If she doesn't actually watch it, because we don't. We don't let her watch. Watch. But I'll be watching the news and she'll be in the room, and that's what's on.

[Elaine Coladi]

She'll hear it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then when I leave, my wife will put on Love is blind or 90 day fiance or whatever she might.

[Mary Morgan]

Like, have an accent, like a news anchor or an influencer.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, a Republican influence.

[Tim Pool]

I didn't want to. I didn't want to say this to Jesse Waters, but when the Five is on and Greg Gutfeld talks, she gets excited and looks at the screen and then it switched to Jesse and she started crying. And then when Greg started talking, she stopped and perked up again.

[Mary Morgan]

When Greg Gutfeld is your Ms. Rachel.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So funny, dude.

[Elaine Coladi]

I mean, I definitely think that, you know, I have a very strong opinion about, you know, whether or not school's for everybody. And I don't think it is for everybody.

[Tim Pool]

But agreed.

[Elaine Coladi]

You know, not a lot of people can have a situation where they have two people at home and they can stay home and raise their kids at home. And public school serves the greater good.

[Tim Pool]

Unacceptable.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's terribly unacceptable. But it's not. But you have to have some version of it. And the math that I saw the other day in this symposium about what the iPhone and what phones have done, especially smartphones, to kids since 2012, in terms of their ability to learn, pay attention, stimulation, things like that, it's mind boggling.

[Tim Pool]

This is an unacceptable condition. It's for our country. It's insane that you have to have both parents working. And Zohran Mamdani says that he's going to give free childcare and this is part of the communist plan.

[Elaine Coladi]

Can you imagine who's going to be watching them?

[Tim Pool]

The government. Right. The point is, what he's really saying is give your children to the state and they're clapping.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And utopians have said this for all of history, even go back to Plato's Republic. They always want to undermine the family. They want to take children away from parents is as early as possible. This is all, this is part of the agenda.

[Elaine Coladi]

By the way, I think kindergarten and preschool and all school is free child care.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, yeah, I think especially those are.

[Elaine Coladi]

So we should make it as good as we can make it. And, and that's. This is a start. And we should put shop back in school. I mean, I don't know why we don't put things in schools that the kids really want to learn or need to learn.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, I appreciate you mentioning by the way though, that you don't think schools for everyone. I've got. My dad's very, very brilliant. His brothers are also smart. But like my dad was book smart. He loves school. His brothers did not. They like basically all became Chicago police. Very smart guys, but just did not like to sit still, didn't like to sit in a desk. And one of my uncles, he, he ended up, may he rest in peace, he was detective. So very, very smart guy. But my dad has this story about when they were kids and my dad loves school and his brother hated it. His brother said, I hate school. A bunch of women make you sit there and talk to him.

[Mary Morgan]

Well, I mean I, I agree with the concept that school is not for everyone, but if we're to have schools, the kids need to be treated like little soldiers, very austere. They, they need to, I mean it's about man have authority that they respect.

[Elaine Coladi]

I think it's very much, I think learning how to get, get along with people.

[Tim Pool]

The problem with schools is that children are learning from children.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

That is not the way human society has ever functioned and it can't function well.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And also nowadays we break them up into different age groups. So it's like you are with your grade, but children never develop that way. Historically you were talking to older kids and younger kids. So you were not in this weird like niche where your development was stultified.

[Tim Pool]

There's a viral video that we bring up quite a bit where it's like kids post World War II being interviewed and it's like a 7 year old kid going like, I'm quite concerned with the economy of Switzerland, you know, following the war. And everyone's like, how do these kids sound like adults? Because the only thing they've ever been exposed to is adults having these conversations. Now what's happened is 10 year olds don't learn from the teacher, they hate the teacher and ignore the teacher. They learn from 10 year olds. And so you're basically running, you're taking copies of copies and copying off each other. Instead of the kids learning from adults, they're just doing random garbled nonsense. And this is the leftist way where they treat, they say children are blank slates and they want the kids to decide their own names for themselves and to figure out what gender they really are instead of being told they are a thing with a definitive form and a name.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, that's right. And you, you can tell the difference by the way, I mean at my church, there's the, the church I used to go to before I, I moved in the, the town that I went to college in. There was this really great like traditional Latin mass community and not everyone homeschooled, but some of the parents did. And like you could just tell their, their children were so preco to the others. They spoke on a much more adult level with a more advanced vocabulary because they were speaking with their parents and they were actually being educated at their level instead of, as Tim mentioned, being held back by the dumbest kids in the class. Let's just be blunt about it, like the slowest kid who the teacher has to slow down for.

[Tim Pool]

It's It's. It's absolutely infuriating to me because I was fortunate enough that I had enough, call it arrogance or testosterone to tell everyone around me to shut up and I would do whatever I want. But the kids around me that I see that had potential, whose lives are ruined because of the public schooling system. It breaks my heart. Yeah. And the kids I knew who are dead because of the public school system, from gangs, from violence and from drug use. It should never have been that way. And it wouldn't have been that way if we had a proper functioning society. But we've industrialized and we've communismized. Not completely, but this is absolutely insane that parents are like, I have no choice. We both have to work. Well, I can't tell you what's possible. I can't tell you what you have to do or what you can do. What I would suggest, and what I try to do is strive to homestead, do your best. Our plan for our daughter is going to be homeschool pods. We're fortunate that basically everybody in our community is having babies. So I think, let me just do some like, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. There's like six babies in the past several months. It's fantastic.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

This means that they're going to grow up with each other, they're going to learn from us, but we are going to. There's a couple. There's a couple ways that I think it could and should be done. One of the ideas that I had was every parent takes a turn, you know, one day of the week being the teacher for the kids or the easy route for everybody is you hire a teacher. However, considering we are all somewhat like moderate to very traditional in our community, you've got a lot of the moms who intend to be full time moms. So I'm actually fairly confident that with this big network we have, the moms are going to be very. They're going to be very possible. They will be the teachers in the early years for our kids, which allows.

[Elaine Coladi]

I mean, look, there's I think five and a half, maybe six million students in California, and I think there's 7,000 high schools, 10,000 elementary and middle schools. So you've got a large group of people that are the future. And we need to do everything we can to make the school system work because there's no easy fix. And I think the iPhone thing or the telephones out of the schools is a very good start. Well, and also, and also not most teachers, when they enter into the teaching business, it's because they really want to do it and imagine what it's like.

[Tim Pool]

I don't believe that for a second.

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, there's lots of great teachers.

[Tim Pool]

I'm sure there are. But my experience with the industry and with people who have been teachers is that so. The friends of mine who got into teaching were like, I was surprised to find how many people hate this job and never wanted it. And the reason they took it was because they got a degree and couldn't find anything else, so they decided to get into teaching.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, that's, that's probably, that's probably true in a lot. I wouldn't say that's the majority though.

[Tim Pool]

A lot of. And I would say that especially young kids in my, and this is more anecdotal and personal, but there was probably one teacher that I've had in my life that I thought was actually a good teacher and the rest were abusive to some capacity. From negligent to abusive is the experience I've had in the Chicago public school system.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's terrible.

[Tim Pool]

And it's worse than that because we've got stories out of Chicago where there was one like 6 year old kid who they locked in a padded room because he was having a temper tantrum. And then they wouldn't let him out and left him there, so he defecated all over himself. That's Chicago Public schools. So I can't speak to California. But my, my experience, a lot of people is the school systems are all broken. I just say, look, there's gonna be a lot of people who can't or don't care or whatever the issue is. But my, the future of America, the parents, the kids, of course they are. Which means the parents need to do everything in their power to give their kids the best opportunity imaginable. And it is surprising to me how many parents refuse to. They, they're, they're, they're. I, I can't believe how many parents are like, I know full well that the, the state will take my child from me and sterilize them. I'm gonna send them into the school anyway. How many people we've interviewed on the show who are like, you know, I know full well that the high school in my area is showing kids pictures of dildos and teaching them about anal and things like this. I'm gonna send them there anyway.

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, it's terrible.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm like, why, why are you doing that? I don't understand. But we do have to go to super chats. So smash the like button, share the show with Everyone you know, we'll get your rumble rants and super chats before we do go to cast brew.com use promo code TURKEY20. And you can get 20 off everything, including subscriptions. So when you click that Mary's Ghost blend and you want to buy it, and I actually don't know how you subscribe to it, but if you subscribe, meaning you'll get it on a monthly basis, I think that's how it works. You'll get the 20% off forever. But we did this because we want you guys to stock up on Casper Coffee just in time for the holidays. Because how awesome would it be when all of your family comes and you're all ready to debate and you're sitting there just getting excited to talk politics. But before you do, you brew a nice hot cup of Appalachian Nights. Casper.com all right, what do we got here? Mallow baby says the the counties U.S. account for 70% of federal revenue. How is there no money to pay anything? Because it's BS Black Nexus says SNAP is no different than UBI at this point. And I'm against it. If you use my taxes to buy Starbucks at a grocery store, then shut it down and destroy it. Agreed. What do we have here? Yaki India. If people want to live under socialism, then give them socialism. Make EBT SNAP stores where purchases can be controlled. Here's an idea. You can choose to opt in. How about this? If you ever want to receive benefits, you opt into a system where you can never profit again. Let me clarify. You will never be allowed to profit until you pay back what was put in the system. So here's. Here's how it works. You fall in hard times and you go, I have no choice. I need welfare. And they say, right this way. Here's your card. You now can purchase anything you want with it. However, any money you make will be taken from you instantly until it's paid back. So I know people are probably going to argue like we pay taxes into it already. My point is, you can ever make money, you will be in socialism forever. In that system, you can't. Oh, and you also can't vote.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, yeah, that's the thing.

[Tim Pool]

I would say can't vote while you're receiving benefits.

[Seamus Coughlin]

After a certain amount of time on benefits, I would say that a person shouldn't be able to vote. I think if this is someone who's been a net positive taxpayer their whole life and so they weren't able to save a safety net and now they're withdrawing from the system on hard times, I'm fine with that. But after a certain amount of time, I would agree. I think a person shouldn't be able to vote. You can't just take. Because. Because their incentive is just going to be able to vote for more welfare.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's a difficult one, but there is this terrible problem with. It's also the same problem with politicians voting because they're voting for things that keep them working. Yep, it's. That's a. That's a really interesting. Should you be able to vote for something that's going to benefit you but not others?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, exactly. Or to take from others to give to yourself?

[Tim Pool]

Maybe we need to restrict voting to, you know, maybe a smaller group of people perhaps.

[Elaine Coladi]

How about just an ID to start?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Can we just start with needing an id? Oh, my gosh, that's true.

[Tim Pool]

You can't. Because politicians will only ever vote in their vote for policies in their benefit.

[Seamus Coughlin]

All right.

[Tim Pool]

Flawed legacy, says Tim and crew. Do you think it's possible that grocery prices are only high because EBT is technically subsidizing grocery store in the same way colleges increase prices when the government is paying?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I would say it's not the only reason that they're high, but it definitely brings a price up.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Because it increases demand without increasing supply more people. So it depends. It's actually kind of difficult. I'd argue this theoretically. It might bring prices down because of volume. So like we're working on pool water right now and we, we absolutely could sell them for 20 bucks. But if you order them direct, you got to pay for shipping, which is. It's water, so it's expensive. We're talking with distributors and we're talking with the manufacturer. And so if we do your standard glass bottle with a twist cap, they. They shrink wrap it, we can get them to around like 20 bucks, I think. I think it would end up being like 22 with taxes and all the stuff out the door. But we don't. We like, we're not literally trying to just stick it to liquid death by making a cheap product. So I said, no, let's do cardboard boxes. Let's do paper stickers instead of plastic stickers. It's still going to have the cap with the. With the plastic gasket. But we're not pretending we're anti plastic the same way that liquid death is. So it's probably end up being like 25 out the door. If we sold 1 million cases, it would be 15 out the door because then we'd end up making like 3 cents per case. But where the profit we get after cost like it's way better than we get from selling for 25. So volume matters. If, if theoretically, if you increase the amount of people buying the product, Coca Cola can drop the price way down because volume is where they find their profit. But if the purchasing pool shrinks, they're going to charge more money. So it's hard to say for sure. All right, Miss For Missy says. Ooh, nice spooky intro. Muahaha. My spooky fine of Tim cast and their discord is complete spooky leader Missa. Well, okay. Change water says, I saw a news interview where a black woman was complaining about losing Snap. She said that this is the government trying to hurt black women who can't get jobs. She added, she doesn't want to work.

[Seamus Coughlin]

But this is, this is Schrodinger's welfare. It's either something that white people disproportionately benefit from because when people don't understand per capita, that's what they say. Oh, most the largest group receiving these welfare benefits are white. But then when you go to cut those benefits, they go, oh, this is targeting black people. You can't have it both ways. Yeah, you're right. You can actually. No, I stand corrected. You can have it. You can have it that way. You can just, you can just lie. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed. Let's grab some more. TVPG says attention Walmart shoppers will be closed November 3rd from 6:30 to 7:30. Sorry for any inconvenience. Well, there you go. Van Roy says, Mary, you should, you probably shouldn't get a golden retriever. Those fur missiles would turn your black clothes into fur suits.

[Mary Morgan]

I wasn't considering it, but.

[Tim Pool]

All right. Rivka the jade gamer says. Tim, in 2020, the Supreme Court of the US ruled in Ramos VLA that state level juries must be unanimous on every element of the crime. The concealed crime is an element of Trump's conviction.

[Elaine Coladi]

Indeed.

[Tim Pool]

And agreed. That's why it's appealed. Now, I'm going to let you guys in on a secret. Do you know why the appellate court which heard the case a year ago hasn't ruled on it? No.

[Elaine Coladi]

Why?

[Tim Pool]

Because they are in a Democrat jurisdiction and if they come out right now and say Trump wins, they'll get lynched. But Trump is the president and if they come out against Trump, Trump will come for them. So they're saying, let's do nothing because we don't want to be in the middle of this fight. But Trump was unjustly and wrongly convicted. And if we don't win the culture war, then you'll be in a gulag.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And that's why you got to support twisted plots, because we can't make cultural without culture.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, let's see what we got here. Fork. Fork. Name change says. Just want to say, much like gun laws don't prevent gun crimes, laws against vigilantes don't prevent vigilantes, faith in the court's outcome does. What happens when that faith falters? Skyline says, easy to repeal the 19th. Toss out the bouts from women. Put the ballot box on the top of a pole requiring a pull up to get up there.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's a good idea.

[Tim Pool]

It's a possibility. All right. Evan Button says she's right. The majority of mayors will work for what they think is safer for the kids and people. But through their double speak, she has forgotten what safer or good means to these psychopaths.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Interesting.

[Tim Pool]

Let's see. This one's brutal. I don't know if I want to read it. Skyline says California people deserve their homes be burned down. All the choices they made from environments, politicians, taxes, led to this. Not a cause of nature like hurricanes.

[Mary Morgan]

I mean, all of the people who you think learned a lesson from it didn't.

[Elaine Coladi]

So, I mean, the Pacific Palisades is, you know, blue check, you know, Democrat ground zero. So it's definitely, you know, a very big democratic community.

[Mary Morgan]

But when reality slaps them in the face, they don't learn a lesson from it. They don't get humbled by it. They just blame it on climate change.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, climate change does it all. I once saw climate change rob a bank out of way.

[Elaine Coladi]

I've seen climate change.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

He stole our.

[Elaine Coladi]

Our.

[Tim Pool]

The word we use for the number 20. And I chased him for miles to get it back, but he got away.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I'm sorry that that happened to you.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, James is supposed to get the reference, but he doesn't.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Is that something Abe Simpson said?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's something Abe Simpson said. Yeah, back when the Simpsons were funny and not weirdly woke. And Abe Simpson is now gay.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's true. That did happen.

[Tim Pool]

Did you know that grandpa Simpson on the Simpsons is gay?

[Elaine Coladi]

No, but I think that I always thought he was gay.

[Tim Pool]

Abe, he has what Grandpa Simpson has kids, and he tried dating Marge's mom.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right. That did happen. Yeah, Ms. Bouvier.

[Tim Pool]

And then Homer was like, we're gonna be brother and sister.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right. Now kids will grow an extra finger. And.

[Tim Pool]

Is that what he said?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Turn pink. Yeah. And then it shows. The kid's like, like, right, right. Children. Classic. Classic. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Those were the days.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Those were the days, man.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Seamus Coughlin]

If you want other good cartoons, twisted plots.com support the show.

[Tim Pool]

The Sig P says Tim cast team. The ads on Spotify uploads are still significantly louder than the program. Hilarious EBT onic news segment today, by the way. Five pack of chili. Put them up. They titty made me LOL. Yeah, that was one of the. The EBT from TikTok. So gross. Like the. There's EBT of tick tock. And it's. It's like listening to Boomhauer, you know? Boomhauer is from King of the Hill.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, I'm gonna dangle Manning, you know, food sample, bro.

[Tim Pool]

The food Sam is like a black woman. She's like, I'll tell you why. I'm gonna go to that store. I'll take that five can of chili. I put on dentity. I'm saying. And I was like, no, I. I have no idea. Only. Only the part where you. You grunted. Do you know what I'm saying? Nam saying. Nam saying is what you say. All right, what do we got here? Ten buck Stu says, if you think about it, half of your paycheck gets taken to support a bunch of pets you didn't even know you had. Those pets are also actively conspiring and voting against your interests. We can't keep doing this. That's why I'm saying, shut it down. I don't care. Everybody's like, we have to wean. Nope. Off, bro. If I was president, I'd be the craziest mfer like, ever in government. I would just be doing things. I'd be like, try me. I ain't no way I'd turn snap back on.

[Elaine Coladi]

I think that's what we've got.

[Tim Pool]

I would be awful president.

[Elaine Coladi]

Do things right now.

[Tim Pool]

To a great degree. To a great degree. I think it's probably true. And I think the reality is we're learning that the president alone can't do it. You need a good staff. I think he learned that the hard way. And so now he's got some good people around him. I hope, I hope, I hope come November 1st, Snap is off. Just off. We got to get off the addiction. We got to get off the drug, the welfare drug, okay? Like, you know, people should be doing. They should be farming. They should have a homestead. We should spread out from the cities to the best degree that we can. And people should grow food in their backyard and take care of themselves. Everybody. Even Seamus.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I don't want to.

[Tim Pool]

How many chickens do you have, Seamus?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I actually did have some chickens. I did, Yeah. I told. You know, I moved. I moved.

[Tim Pool]

Did you eat the chickens?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I ate one of them.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, good, good.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Delicious.

[Tim Pool]

Good job.

[Seamus Coughlin]

It was delicious.

[Tim Pool]

They are delicious. Wait. We had rooster because we. We breed the chicken, so we ended up with, I think, like, 16 roosters.

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, yeah. It happens.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And so we were like, let's eat them. And we. My wife made a rooster chili that everyone loved so much. It just was gone in, like, three minutes.

[Elaine Coladi]

So did you plug it and kill it and do it?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no.

[Elaine Coladi]

You had it done.

[Tim Pool]

We had a. We. We have. I think what we did was our chicken tender. Kim took care of it for us. We have someone who works here who handles that stuff. I'd do it myself if I didn't. If I wasn't doing all the work for this stuff. I absolutely would just. Absolutely. You put them in that little funnel thing where you stick their heads through it and you chop their head off, and then all the blood, you know, blood drains out and it stinks and. And you gotta cut them up. Yeah, that sounds fun.

[Elaine Coladi]

We've done a lot of chicken practicing things at the ranch, and one of the things is, what I think is really strange is that the. The eat chickens. The chickens you eat, they only live 52 days. And if you wait too long, they actually, like, disintegrate. It's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

Whoa. Really?

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, yeah. Turkeys, too, by the way.

[Tim Pool]

You mean, like, they're alive and they start.

[Elaine Coladi]

Just don't. Yeah, they don't hold. They die. The turkeys actually got holes in them because I didn't want to kill them.

[Tim Pool]

What kind of chickens you got?

[Elaine Coladi]

Swear to God.

[Tim Pool]

We have. We have chickens that are alive for five, six years already.

[Elaine Coladi]

No, no, no. So do I. I have those too. But the specific group of chickens that you buy, which are supposed to say super tender and broilers.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You're talking about those, like, GMO chickens that, like, have.

[Tim Pool]

They can't walk.

[Seamus Coughlin]

They're like little.

[Elaine Coladi]

Do you hatch? You get them. They're already hatched. You order them hatched and then you raise them in a. We have these, like, mobile things that move around and. Yeah, you have to. If you don't kill them on the day you're supposed to. They get. They're not edible.

[Tim Pool]

I know that. They get tough when they get old.

[Elaine Coladi]

Well, they get tougher. They walk, too.

[Tim Pool]

They walk.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

If they walk. If they're really Truly free range are much.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, right. Because the muscles move.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think you got to eat them the way nature is intended. So we had, like, 13. We had 16 roosters. We killed 13 of them. And I got to be honest, just like, rooster drumstick didn't do it for me. It's not the same.

[Elaine Coladi]

Right, right.

[Tim Pool]

You know, it was tougher and it tasted different, but when cooked properly in the chili, everybody immediately, like, when they tried the baked rooster, they were like, it's okay. The chili, though, it was gone and, like, three minutes, everybody filled up on it. It was fantastic.

[Elaine Coladi]

We do these organic turkeys from the sky up in Fallbrook every year, and they're super skinny, and, I mean, they just don't look like proper turkeys. We cook them in underground for, like, 16 hours in these big ovens, but they're so tough.

[Tim Pool]

We got tons of wild turkey out here.

[Elaine Coladi]

Do you?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. You know, I love about them city folk. First of all, I'm not going to pretend to be a country because I'm from Chicago, but at least I understand that turkeys fly. And it's funny when people who, like, have never been out in the middle of nowhere come and see a flock of flying turkeys go by and they go, what are those? Like, turkeys? What? Turkeys fly and they sleep in trees?

[Seamus Coughlin]

No. I remember when I was a little kid and I learned that turkeys could fly. It blew my mind. I was like, wait, in the wild, they fly?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, and they.

[Elaine Coladi]

And they fly, and mine won't fly.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, well, I mean, do you run? Do you run everywhere?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Not well motivated.

[Elaine Coladi]

They don't go anywhere.

[Tim Pool]

Do you run everywhere?

[Elaine Coladi]

I mean, you know, just because I can, I don't. You know, I.

[Tim Pool]

We could. We could run, too, but I don't.

[Elaine Coladi]

Think they know they can fly.

[Tim Pool]

The other thing, too is people don't know what turkeys look like.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So sad.

[Tim Pool]

Everybody. Everybody's used to the picture of the turkey when the male turkey is puffing up and threatening you.

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So when people see the wild turkeys and they're actually thin and small, they ask like, what is that? And I'm like, that's a bunch of turkeys.

[Elaine Coladi]

It's Thanksgiving dinner.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. And then they're like, But I thought turkeys looked like. Walk up to the guy and see what he does. And then he, you know, and then he looks all funny and he mogs you. That's what he does.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Literally.

[Tim Pool]

They put their arms out, their tail gets all wide, and they go.

[Mary Morgan]

It's alpha male behavior.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Exactly 100.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I respect it. They're like, get away from my girl. What you thought? All right, what I got here, eight ball jacket says in New York, SNAP can be used to purchase hot food at participating Popeyes, McDonald's.

[Mary Morgan]

No.

[Tim Pool]

And even all you can eat Chinese buffet. What? Search New York Restaurant meals program. Feds need to invade New York to establish the constitution and common sense. I, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's crazy.

[Tim Pool]

You could buy candy bars.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's what I'm saying. They, they. It doesn't. It's not for good fresh food anymore. It's not a nutritional diet.

[Tim Pool]

They should. Welfare should be a bag of flour and some powdered milk. That's it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Welfare should be. We give you a bullet and tell you where the turkeys are.

[Tim Pool]

No, those are my turkeys.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Go get your own.

[Tim Pool]

Or I mean, you know, honestly, welfare could be. Wait, here's the idea. If you need to go on welfare, then what we do is you opt into the welfare program where you get on a bus with your family and there are these big 40 foot walls with razor wire on top and this gigantic Jurassic park style gate that opens up. They drive you in and drop you off and say, the welfare program is 15,000 acres of open land. Good luck. That's it. And then they close the door behind you. That's just you, you. There you go. And you know, good luck.

[Elaine Coladi]

I do think, I think there's like, pantries are great. You know, the pantry idea is great where you can get a meal cooked and, and you know, it's better managed.

[Tim Pool]

But I, I think there should just be no welfare at all.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, well, she's talking about food pantry, though.

[Tim Pool]

No, I'm saying it should, it should all. It should all be private. And to be, to be fair, if there's a food pantry that's private, that's fine. I think society worked way better when our, our charity came from churches. It was small localized communities. And I'm not saying this in a religious sense. I'm saying when you fell on hard times and you were a good person, the community would do what they could to help you out. Insurance originated from. If my house burns down, I'll help you rebuild yours.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And everyone was like, you got to do it. So then when an accident happened, everyone's like, we have to do it now. It's just like, don't know you. That's not my purse.

[Elaine Coladi]

I mean, it might be really.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Come on. King of the hill.

[Tim Pool]

You thought that.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You asked me.

[Tim Pool]

No, that's that. It's. That's my purse.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's my purse. I don't know you.

[Tim Pool]

There's. I don't know you. That's. Is that what he said? That's my.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's my purse.

[Elaine Coladi]

I don't know you.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, and then he kick you in balls.

[Elaine Coladi]

Classic.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Anyway, sorry, you were saying something?

[Elaine Coladi]

I was saying maybe. Maybe with, you know, Amazon, with laying off all those people, they could open up a bunch of food pantries and stock them and feed people, since they're saving so much money in payroll.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All the things they don't want to do. All right. Invader J says, seamus, I'm getting baptized this Sunday. Just had my class tonight. It's been a long, hard road to get to this point. Deus Wolt.

[Seamus Coughlin]

God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. I will pray for you. Thank you, man. Thank you for saying that. That's beautiful.

[Tim Pool]

My favorite Freedom Tunes ending is when Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, and Seamus are with. With the Pope, and then Seamus puts on the helmet. Is that what it is?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. Yeah. I think maybe Walsh does, but, yeah, we take the Holy Land. Our.

[Tim Pool]

No, it. Was it Knowles. Yeah, you take the. The Holy Land cartoon where it was.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, Candace and Shapiro dating or debating. Sorry.

[Mary Morgan]

Whoa, Freddie. And slow.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What happened there?

[Tim Pool]

What kind of fan fiction are you making? Don't look.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Don't look at the unused Freedom Tune script. Archive all the fan fics I'm writing. No, that was. That was. We had them debate on, like, the. Whatever podcast or something. We must have done this video, like, three years ago. And. Yeah, then in the end, it was like, this is what should really happen in the whole.

[Tim Pool]

Like, the screen blinks really quick. The Holy Land belongs to Rome.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No, I didn't do that. And then it's that in there.

[Tim Pool]

Michael Knowles, Seamus and Matt Walsh wearing Templar armor and.

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Pool]

And then you say something like, yes, my Eminence or something like that. Or your Eminence.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Dude, this crazy thing is, like, after over 600 videos, I can't even remember the exact dialogue there.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

We should pull that up.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, we will. It'd be funny. All right, we'll grab one more. Let's see what we got here. Eclipse. Eclipse. What does that say? Ecky lips. I don't know, Tim, you're selling water. Pretty sure it comes from the ground. And it's supposed to. It's supposed to be pickle your old chickens. Eastern Europeans know what's up. Is that what you do? You pickle them? Well, we we don't eat the chickens, we just eat the eggs. And they're fantastic. When the egg shortages were happening, ain't nobody working here had a problem. We actually have a perk of when you come by here, you work here, you get free eggs. And Libby, she comes on periodically and she always grabs a carton eggs on her way out because that's what they're for, free eggs.

[Elaine Coladi]

Oh, they're so good for you too. It's. If they're organic, they're so good for you.

[Tim Pool]

That's right from the chicken's butt.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I remember my first time having like an actual farm fresh egg. Blew my mind. I was like, wait, the deal is not supposed to be light yellow.

[Tim Pool]

I mean it's, I'm not gonna lie.

[Mary Morgan]

They don't taste different.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I know, but they look happy.

[Tim Pool]

Taste the love that comes from them. It's just, it's, it's ours.

[Elaine Coladi]

Ours definitely tastes like richer, I think. And.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Elaine Coladi]

And when you scramble them, they're really dark yellow. I, I love them.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. That you're so the, the store bought ones, typically you'll have like a standard yellow and that could be true for depending on the kind of chicken you have. Some of the chickens we have will have like a dark orange. It's got more iron or B vitamins, I think in it. We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the [e-mail] Timcast IRL. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Elaine, do you want to shout anything out?

[Elaine Coladi]

Yeah. Find me on Lipstick Farmer on Instagram. Hashtag Lipstick Farmer on Instagram.

[Mary Morgan]

I like that, that username.

[Elaine Coladi]

That's cute. Thank you.

[Mary Morgan]

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[Tim Pool]

Turkey 20 for 20% off.

[Mary Morgan]

Turkey 20 for 20% off.

[Seamus Coughlin]

My name is Seamus Coughlin. I'm the creator of Freedom Tunes. The technological infrastructure we have for delivering stories is a miracle. Unfortunately, it is dominated by people who hate you and hate your way of life and they've been slowly chipping away at your culture through propaganda. That's why myself and my team, after making over 600 animated videos and getting hundreds of millions of views with $0 spent on marketing have decided we are going to make a full length show. We need your help in order to get it fully funded. Go over to twisted plots.com pledge$25. You'll get to watch our full length 25 minute long pilot episode. You will be helping us create the future of entertainment which is right wing and which is grassroots because we cannot win the culture war unless we are making culture. Go to twisted plots.com and support us.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you all [e-mail] Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out.