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The Artemis 2 mission has made it from the dark side of the moon. The blackout is over and they will begin transmitting data. And still people are denying that we've gone to the moon. They don't believe it. They think that this is a big hoax campaign, that NASA isn't real, it's demonic and that the there's like this gondola that came out of the launch site. They say that's where the astronauts escaped to and they've been staging this whole thing. None of it is real. Well, I guess you choose what you want to believe. According to all of the reporting they made it out, they're gonna have new images and there are in fact indications of specific natural resources which we may begin to moon mine when we build a mine on the moon. I'm excited for that. In the meantime, Tim Burchett followed up on the statement he made last week when he said if the American people learned about these briefings on aliens, the nation would become unglued. And he told TMZ they're real. He has been briefed. They came to him and said they are real, that aliens and alien technology have been in contact with humans. And I certainly hope it's not the way Matt Gates explained it where he said women were being kidnapped to be forced to carry the babies of aliens to create alien human hybrids. Okay, this is the news, I guess the big trending stories. Donald Trump also pulled off a historic rescue mission involving was like hundreds of aircraft, like 100 plus aircraft to rescue one guy who climbed up 7,000ft while bleeding and hid, activating his beacon. They came in and they got him. It was amazing. Apparently the CIA was doing these decoy missions to distract the Iranian government so we could get in, get this guy and get out. It's amazing stuff. At the same time, I'm just, it's a weird place in the podcast space. These days. The podcasts that tend to do the best right now are the ones that are rooting against the United States. And, and by all means, I'm not saying every single one of these top podcasts critical of the war in Iran is rooting against us, but some of them literally are. And they're telling people to watch the Iranian media for truth, which is just crazy. But this is where we're headed, whatever that means. Any way you cut it, there is a campaign against the United States to diminish it, whether Trump succeeds here or not. So, my friends, we're gonna talk about that and a whole lot more before we do. We got a great sponsor. It is PDSD debt.com check out PDS debt.com timcast. You see the headlines, you read the stories, and the impact shows up in your own numbers. Balances rising, fees piling up. That's when it's time for PDS debt. Minimum payments are designed to stretch debt out for years. And PDS debt has already helped hundreds of thousands reduce what they owe and take back control. Whether you are struggling with credit cards, personal loans, medical bills, PDS Debt has custom options to to help you get out of debt. They go beyond the numbers to understand your unique financial situation and craft a personalized plan designed just for you. There's no minimum credit score required. They're here to help you save more, pay off your debt faster, start putting that money back in your pocket. And they are a plus rated by the Better Business Bureau. They got five star ratings on trustpilot, thousands of reviews on Google. Because PDS has helped hundreds of thousands of people get out of debt every month. You wait, your costs cost you more in interest and fees. The best time to start yesterday was yesterday. So second best time is now when the numbers are clear. Act take back control in 30 seconds@pds.com Timcast that is pds.com Timcast but also, don't forget, before we get started, you got to tap that like button a little tap. Share the show with everyone you know. If you really do support the work that we're doing, sharing really does help. Despite the fact I really don't think we're in the share era anymore. Virality doesn't really exist on the Internet. It's continually becoming whittled down and controlled. So probably the best thing to do is join our community@timcast.com before the island fully submerges and all that is left are the large corporate players help maintain that community@timcast.com in our discord server and you'll be supporting the work that we do. And as always, smash the like button for. I know I said tap. I'm going to say smash it. But joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got a couple of great guests. We've got Avery Day. Hello.
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Thank you for having me.
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Who are you? What do you do?
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Who am I? I post conservative content. I was living England for the past three years, moved back when Trump was elected and I started posting because I felt like people didn't know what was happening in Europe. And that has spiraled. So now I. I share my opinion online. I talk to talk crap on the Internet about politics and people talking crap
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on the Internet seems to be a popular thing these days. Jorge's back.
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Yeah, it's good to be back. Independent journalist focusing on illegal immigration, cartels, all the crazy stuff. Just left LA about a week ago where no keens got a little wild. So we were there and just also finished a new report on the Iranian sleeper cells out of Mexico and the smuggling connected with the Mexican cartels. But yeah, thanks, Tim. Good to. Good to be back.
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Right on. Then we got Ian hanging out. So we got Carter pressing buttons.
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What's up?
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And of course Phil is here.
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Hello, everybody.
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Let's jump into the story. We got breaking news. It's history, ladies and gentlemen. Record breakers Artemis 2 has emerged from blackout and radios Houston after loss of communications while spacecraft failed vanished behind the moon. So the moon's apparently real. I can't believe it.
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Shane Cashman most affected.
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Yeah, we, we. You know, I came the other day and I saw him and. And he was crying. I said, shane, what's wrong? And he was like, the moon's real. And I said, I know. And he said, no, you don't understand. The moon is real. And I said, shane, I know.
D
And that did he get into how bad it hurts.
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He started smashing things. He flipped the table over baddy.
D
And it hurt so bad. I was like, I know.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure. All kidding aside, Shane, we love you. There are people who still don't believe that we've ever gone to the moon. They think the whole thing is still fake. Even with this moon mission being a tremendous victory for the American people, at least, at least give us this. If they are faking this right now, at least give America credit for doing the best fakes. Right? Let's just celebrate the American, the deepest fakes, the deepest of deep fakes, indeed. In all seriousness, the plan is they went around the moon charting it, basically Looking for resources because we are going to establish moon mining.
D
Yeah, I'm so glad I made, I made a video about mining the moon like 2007, pulling, you know, I see things like 15 years before they happen sometimes and people are like, all right bro, slow down, get a job. I'm like, it's gotta happen. But like we were talking earlier, you don't want to overmine the moon, so we got to be careful.
E
And you don't, you don't want to overmine.
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Well yeah.
C
No you don't.
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Yeah, I want.
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What if we mined everything from the moon and brought it to Earth? Would that not change. Change the mass of the earth?
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Oh, could ruin the tides. Yeah, the moon is a big part of the tide.
B
I mean that's true too. But I mean like imagine 100 years from now we've over mined the moon and there's very like we've just ripped out let's say 3% and it shifts the moon's weight and Earth's. Earth's mass increases by 0.3 of moon mass.
D
So we have to take dirt to the moon and replace what the rocks we take.
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That's. There you go. So let's. We need large masses of matter to replace what we're taking. Maybe ice or Democrats.
E
I was just going to say let's send the commies to the moon.
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All the things you thought.
C
That's. Bro. Send the tortoise to the moon, bro.
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What? No, we want those. Tortoise.
C
A fat Mexican girl. You want one too?
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Oh, I thought those are sandwiches, bro.
C
Those are tortoise, bro.
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Yeah, torto. You go to Mexican restaurant? That too.
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Yeah, there's a.
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See here, you know, language barriers.
C
Yeah.
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Bro, have you ever had a torta at a nice Mexican restaurant?
C
Oh yeah, from la.
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He's had a different kind of Toyota too apparently.
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Yeah, yeah, we get in the third eyes of the moon too, bro.
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I mean, hey, Alex Stein most affected.
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Yeah, there's a. I listen to a lot of podcasts with like futurists and stuff and there's this one dude who's like totally. He's like, the moon had it coming. We are going to totally disassemble the moon and we're going to, we're going to strip mine it and turn it into a Dyson sphere which is basically a means to collect a significant portion of the sun's energy. Look, I'm not saying that it's a good idea because I do think that the fact that it would affect the tides is probably something that we actually have to think about. But that kind of big idea is the stuff that people are actually starting to talk about seriously now. Like the idea of, of a million satellites in space that are part of the Elon Musk's data center. He's literally talking about putting, eventually putting a million satellites in space.
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It scales up so exponentially because drones swarm construction will be. Size won't matter when you're building things, really, just because the gravity is not an issue. Height doesn't exist in space, so you'll have a trillion drones all building this machine at once.
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There's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of problems that have to be solved before you can actually start doing this stuff. But look, if there's anyone that I think has the, the capacity to do that, it's probably someone like Elon Musk.
B
So in keeping things in line with our culture war theme on this show, liberals are apparently mad that we're going to make money.
E
You could have stopped with liberals.
A
So first things first. I made a video talking about how we went back to the moon. I got absolutely dragged. Apparently my entire generation, my friends, basically everyone that I interact with socially, thinks that I'm the dumbest person alive for thinking that we went to the moon, which is terrifying in and of itself.
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Yes.
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And then terrifying because I think it's an op. The whole thing's an op.
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The fake moon stuff.
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Yeah.
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So here's, here's my thought. Like, how do these people think that Starlink works? Honest question. Like, I point my disc at the sky and the, the good Lord above the firmament beams down knowledge to my receptacle.
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It's strong opinions with a lack of understanding of anything and how it works.
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I, you know, I, I, I'm a, I'm a moon landing believer. And I'll tell you why. I actually don't think it's all that complicated. Like, obviously building a rocket is advanced science. It's rocket science. Literally. I'm just saying, like, fundamentally, a bunch of dudes in a room with a chalkboard drafted up the trajectory of being like, we're gonna blast them up on a rocket and point them straight at
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the moon and they're like $300 billion.
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Yeah.
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So a lot of money and resources that we're not gonna do and a
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lot, a lot of motivation.
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Like, we were talking about this before the, the show. Like, the reason the US was so focused on the space program was because it was a surrogate for built for achieving the ability to send a ballistic missile to the other side of the planet. It was a surrogate. It was Cold War, basically part of the Cold War. They, the reason they wanted to be able to, to shoot rockets to the moon is if you can get a rocket to the moon, you can definitely get a rocket to Moscow.
B
And not just that, the, the great fear that the US was trying to instill in other countries, aside from the fact a we can launch a rocket into space and then at you, was that we could have missiles on the moon.
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Yeah.
B
The idea was that if we went to the moon and kept going there, what could we have there? And could we launch attacks from, from the moon because lunar gravity is not particularly strong. That being said, I have to admit something, and that is most businesses and even government, governments operate on the cost benefit analysis model that's standard. And I got to tell you, if Ian came to me and said we should prove how great of a podcast we are by climbing the Mount Everest and doing the show there with Starlink and it would be amazing. I bet that's a really great idea. It would be a lot cheaper if we just made a fake Mount Everest set.
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Right.
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And didn't actually do it. We'd accomplish the same thing. So I do understand why people believe there was a motivation not to go to the moon. But I will add this. The functional reason, as Phil pointed out why I think we probably did, was the US is sitting in a room. And here's what I think really happened. They said, hey, we want to blow up Moscow. How do we do it? Well, we've got a bunch of rockets, but they're easily detected. We need a rocket that can come straight down so they can't intercept it. Well, how do we do it? We need a big rocket. It's going to go pretty dang far. Okay, how do we, how do we build and test for this? You think the American people are going to tolerate you building a world ending 100 megaton vertical drop bomb onto Moscow? You're going to, you're going to request this budget and people are going to be standing off in Florida looking at this thing you're building and saying, why are you doing this? And they're like, fair point. So what do we tell them? We're going to the moon? We go to the, we do some, we do some moon missions and that'll be the PR play so that we can build intercontinental, nay, planetary ballistic missiles.
D
That wouldn't surprise me. If we use the moon as a cover for a weapons development program. The Nazis did it with their Automobile industry in the 30s, everyone thought they had revitalized their economy by building cars, but they're building tank engines.
E
And so essentially what the space program was. That's what we're saying it's a cover for.
A
But boy, has it backfired. Because now you have an entire generation that's convinced we did not go to the moon because there's like this whole operation against the fact against us in the moon landing is rooting against the United States of America.
E
That's what I understand.
B
You're 100% right.
E
That's in vogue right now. But the thing is like, those, the people that are so, so distrusting of the government, like, there's a reason for that. And a lot of it, I think, is because of COVID Personally, I think that the COVID narrative that turned out to not be true really did, you know, did a whole one shot on a lot of people, that it ruined a lot of people's youth. Because if you're 16, 17 years old, and you have to be locked in your house for two years and you miss all the things that normal 16, 17, 18 year olds miss or do, and then come to find out it was for no reason, you feel like you got duped. You feel like you can't trust anyone. And so I completely understand why they're so skeptical and so, like. And then you toss on the fact that, to be honest with you, the government has lied to us a lot. The Gulf of Tonkin was. Yeah, a lot. I mean, the government, you know, so I understand why they're, they're, you know, so suspicious. And so you're skeptical.
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So. So my point largely is, again, if documents were uncovered that showed we never actually went to the moon, that was cover for spending $300 billion to make Planetary stratospheric nuclear strikes on our enemies. And we wanted them to know we could do it. Because what the American people don't get, for the most part, on average, you talk some about the moon missions, they go, yeah, it was really cool into the moon. What do you think the Russians were thinking when they saw this footage? The first thing they said was, yet what? Yeah, what are the capabilities that they could launch one of these things straight up in outer space and then come straight down onto Moscow? And they're like, yeah, they could, yeah, they have built a missile that can go to the moon and back. So that being said, if documents came out saying we never actually went and there was a soundstage for the purpose of a cover so we could build rockets to make nuclear bombs that come straight down. I'd be like, oh, that's entirely plausible. However, I actually think if we can make rockets that can do that, there's not a firmament that's going to stop us from actually going to the moon. And I do believe the moon missions, there is a function for this. Was it viable to plant weapons on the moon that could be used to launch strikes in the event US nuclear capabilities are destroyed? What if we had missile silos or a moon base or weapons that could be launched from the moon? I think the real purpose of the moon landings, to be honest, my conspiracy theory is when they launched the return the. What was it, the lander it launched out. They were testing whether or not they could deploy a weapon from the moon without needing a base. You could deposit a weapon that lands on the moon and relaunch it at a later date with minimal energy and it would just fly straight towards the earth. Are you guys familiar with Rods from God?
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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This is a theoretical weapon where we launch gigantic tungsten rods into orbit that we can then turn and drop using gravity that would have the power of what is it, like 10 orders of magnitude greater than your average bomb.
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It was theorized, but they found, they found that it doesn't actually have as much. That doesn't have as much stored kinetic energy as they thought.
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Oh, that's not my understanding. Was that what they. Cuz my understanding was that the amount of energy to get a gigantic tungsten rod into orbit was tremendous and to maintain its orbit was insane. So they ultimately were like, it's just too much energy to hold in this pattern. But if you landed something on the moon, you don't need that much energy to kick it off the moon. So I'll just put it like this. I don't understand why, like just honestly, when you think about it, we have rockets, we have ICBMs. I guess some people don't believe those exist either. I don't think it's that difficult to just point it at the moon. Like they don't literally point at the moon. They lead the target, they go like this and the moon comes around, they looped around and they're coming back. I think it was largely weapons based. And we cheer it on as like. Yes, it's just because we're doing great things. Yeah. They're investing money into weapons technology and the like.
E
I'm not so sure about now. I think that like in the past. Yeah, it was this particular kind of iteration of the, of the space program. I think that the, the Trump administration really does want to see America do inspirational things again. Whether it's, maybe whether it's a good, good, good thing or not is up for debate.
B
I will answer one easy question too. And the people go like, if we went to the moonhead, we've never gone back. And it's just like, because we already invented the, the weapons from the sky, like we developed these weapons, tested them, perfected them to a great degree. We don't need to make any more. This was never about just going to the moon for the sake of going to the moon.
D
Yeah. Now it's about building a moon base.
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Now it's about building moon base to mine rare earth minerals and then talking about launching it back. You can create a rail system where we can mine these minerals. We can launch it back. We could use probably moon rock so it doesn't explode in our atmosphere and then we're completely energy dependent. And if we get there before China, because China is going to get there, they're projected to get there about 2030 and Artemis 4 is going to be, what did we say? 2028 is estimated. And so we're quite literally. So China said that they're going to land 2030 and their program is they're, they're looking to land 2030. So we are actually in a race in the AI race with China, we are now in a race to the moon. Because if they can do this and create this energy monopoly, it's whoever gets there first.
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SpaceX is also done, is also looking to get into.
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Well, they want the moon base also as a staging for Mars missions. I will just add one thing.
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It's like a fueling station.
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I think they're gonna build a slingshot on the moon.
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Mass driver they call it.
B
What is it?
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They call it a mass driver. That's what Musk calls.
B
It's this gigantic arch shaped structure and inside of it they have basically a hammer that spins around super fast and then launches the object out of a tube using, you know, centripetal force. And the thing about with the moon, you don't need that much energy to escape lunar or lunar gravity. So and because with Earth's gravity being stronger, it will, it'll drift straight towards the Earth, towards the target. So we could be launching materials back relatively easily that we, so we, we deploy, we have to deploy resources to the moon for construction and for, for, for a moon base, we're going to have to have vehicles for return missions for humans, of course, but for materials. They're Going to launch them like on a slingshot.
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Yep.
D
You could have that spin launch thing where you fire off non organics through an accelerating magnetic slingshot that you would
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need it like a rail.
D
You wouldn't need it, but you might be able to use it to speed up transit time. So you just wait till it gets right to just like you said, lead the target and then you launch it through this tube. These rail guns that send it like 10 times faster, 100 faster, and then you could catch it in a series of tubes.
B
It wouldn't need that, though. That would consume a lot of energy. They wouldn't need it. Earth has gravity. Just may not pull the object in. You might be able.
D
It would just take longer. But you wouldn't. It's just a matter.
B
Who cares? We're sending rocks from the moon. I don't think we're going to be like, it's got to be here by tomorrow.
D
Avery, you were saying that you, you, you pad the materials with moon rock
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and you use that inches of moonrock.
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15 inches. So when it enters Earth's orbit, the moon rock will heat up and blow apart and the product will be okay.
B
Yeah, I want to jump. We were getting into a little bit. I want to talk about aliens, but I do want to talk about this a little bit more because I think it's important. Candace Owens calls for extreme measure against Mad King Trump. Indeed. She said, this is a satanic administration. We all realize that satanic Zionists occupy the White House in Congress needs to move to have the Mad King Trump removed. All of our lives may depend upon other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics who have convinced him that he's a messiah. We are in uncharted territory. Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly. I'm going to say this. Our top podcasts are anti America for them very largely. Candace is absolutely. Now she's crossed the line. Trump is the Mad King who must be removed by other countries. Okay, fair point. She didn't say that explicitly, but the implication is Congress needs to have him removed and our lives may depend on other countries. Realize that Trump is deeply unwell, surrounded by religious fanatics. It's not just her, but there are many prominent personalities. I'm not going to name all the other podcasters. She's just one of the more prominent ones. So she's going to get the name recognition. But there are prominent personalities that I'm watching with these viral clips basically saying, look, they're basically saying the US Is wrong. Iran is Right. And it is insane that that exists in our media and that it is sponsored like that. Companies pay for these people to keep running this content, basically rooting for the destruction of this country. And I want to stress, I'm not just saying podcasts that are like, the war with Iran is bad. I'm like, that's an opinion that was always allowed. I'm talking about ones that are saying outright that our government is evil, that Trump is a mad king that needs to be stopped.
E
What distinction, what, what distinguishes Candace from any other leftist now? Like, nothing.
B
I don't know.
A
Her base, which is the scary part, is that people have gone, they've gone so black pilled, though. There's this like sect of conservatism that is not the antithesis of conservatism. And they go down this, this black pill rabbit hole and they go into all these conspiracies and they don't trust the government so much that there's no distinction between fact, reality and.
B
Candace's audience is not liberal. It's not conservatives.
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No.
B
Anybody who's like, listen, go to a suburb, go to a purple political suburb and you're gonna find a bunch of liberal women. They go, I love Candace Anna Kasparian. That's why I said she's not a conservative. And I had, you know, Kyla was like, what do you mean she's not a conservative? She makes a clip out of it. And I'm like, yeah, her audience is suburban women. They're not conservative. Blake Lively's relationship is not a conservative issue. Right. Brigitte Macron being a man is not a conservative political issue. And the drama of conspiracy with Charlie Kirk is only tangentially political.
C
Yeah, I was just like in Minneapolis covering the rights and all the white liberal women that I've met, all lefties, but they all listen to Candace and they all march to that beat of her drum. I even saw some of the podcasters kind of in this space also even sharing like a story that Even with this F15 fighter jet rescue operation that the US military was like trying to kill our own airmen on the ground. And people like shared that. And like, it seems like that type of content is just on this algorithm. It just. Joe picks up.
B
Joe Kent shared a post from Iranian media saying that the US was trying to kill this, this, this weapons. Was it, was it weapons officer. Weapons officer before Iran could get to him. And he posts, he posts this right before the guy gets rescued. And they're all screaming and cheering and celebrating. So the question comes down to do you trust the Trump administration? I'm going to tell you this, I trust Trump infinitely more than I trust the Iranian government.
E
Yeah.
B
And it is crazy Joe Kent's response. So Jake Tepper calls him out and says he's pushing this Iranian media source claiming that the US Was trying to kill its own guy. And he said Jake Tapper's job is to stop you from thinking critically. You should be watching American media and Iranian media. And I will say I don't disagree. But I'm going to tell you Iranian media is outright lying about everything related to what we are doing because they are in the business of being our enemies and arming people in the region. Now look, if Iran wasn't arming Houthi rebels and giving militia groups weapons to kill people in the region and you know, erase all of that, let's argue all of that may be propaganda. If Iran wasn't blowing up civilians in this war, maybe I'd be inclined to believe something that their government or state media had to say. But a fundamentalist country that marches in lockstep is not a country with what I would describe as trustworthy news. In the United States you have, as much as powerful people don't like it. Nick Fuentes gets his message out, CNN gets theirs out too. And you actually have choices within the American population that will give you contrasting viewpoints. And for all of my complaints, we actually have, we've got Crowder who is obviously more pro Trump on this one, CNN not particularly pro Trump. You've got Fox News much more pro Trump, pro the war. And you have Candace Owens completely opposed to it. So I'm going to say this state media from Iran I think is trash and you shouldn't be listening to it. Let me correct, let me, let me clarify, by all means, listen to it to understand what they are claiming. I'm saying don't believe it. Take it with a grain of salt.
A
The Iranian people think it's trash. The Iranian population doesn't support it. They're working against it's regime controlled media. There's a big distinction.
B
We should be, we should be listening to what the North Korean media says. They're trustworthy.
A
Crazy.
B
Look at good guys Ms. Now CNN not trustworthy. Okay Fox, you got to know what your sources are providing. But in the United States we've got so many different media sources. It's a smorgasbord. It's a pick your own adventure.
D
That's true, but that doesn't justify anything the government does ever. Obviously.
B
Of course.
D
And the Blowing up of bridges and power plants and this threat that he's going to obliterate their electrical grid. Like we're not at war with the Iranian civilianry and we're supposed to be liberating them from a tyrannical government.
B
That's not blowing up their power supplies
D
is not the path.
B
That's not real. We are all adults here. We don't have to pretend like the US Is trying to free anybody. The US Wants control of natural gas and oil around the world and they will blow up whoever they have to to get it. And if your concern about the war in Iran has to do with the morality of collateral damage and blowing up bridges, I respect that argument. It is a good argument. But the reason the Trump administration, or any administration, us comes out and says they hate us for our freedom or they're slaughtering protesters, is because they can't come out and say, listen, we are going to force them to bend the knee so they stop arming extremists and they get their oil and energy on the global trade system. And if we have to blow up their power plants to do it, we will. But that'll teach them a lesson. That's the mentality of what the west is willing, or the United States largely is willing to do. By all means, again, say it's bad. They're not going to admit it. But I will stress we're all adults here. We don't need to pretend that we're great heroes going to liberate the Iranian people.
A
Trump's never stated a regime change to be the goal ever.
E
Also, the.
B
Well, they did a regime change.
D
He did. After they dropped, they tried to blow up their nuclear bunker. They said they wanted to do regime change after that.
E
You're going to love this. You know what a graphite string bomb is?
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Negative.
E
So a graphite string bomb, also known as a blackout bomb, is a non lethal weapon designed to disable electrical power grids by releasing conductive carbon filaments, graphite fibers over power infrastructure. He's not looking to blow up the power plants, he's looking to take them offline. These don't destroy.
B
But, but that serves the same function that Ian's complaining about.
E
It doesn't destroy them, though.
B
No, no, no. But taking them offline will kill diabetics overnight.
E
Yes, but it's not the same thing as like actually destroying the infrastructure.
B
Well, blowing up, blowing up bridges, that's horrible. Yes, but like, listen, here's the thing.
D
We're at war. Not technically.
E
Sorry.
B
Okay, come on,
D
American Government attacked them. That actually the Israeli government attacked them and the Americans joined the US So,
B
so hold on, hold on. Are you. So like, is us attacking them? Does that, that makes us the aggressor who started the war?
D
Yeah, yeah. Military operation.
B
Is it wrong of us to have done that?
D
Oh, God. That's a good, deep question.
B
Well, I'm asking you what you think. Do you think it was wrong of us to attack them?
D
I don't have all the info of what was going on with Bibi and
B
Donald Trump with the United States attacked Iran. Was it right or wrong?
D
I don't know. If they had nuclear armament capability. I don't know. I don't know. So I can't.
B
So I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to answer this for you. The United States didn't just attack Iran. Iran has been attacking US Interests and allies and our troops in the region for a long time. And they've been arming groups that have attacked civilians. There were civilian cargo ships being blown up in the Red Sea by Houthi rebels that Iran was giving weapons to. And we did nothing for a long time. Obama's argument was appeasement. It was let's cut a date deal. And then when Trump said this deal is bad because they haven't stopped arming psychopaths who are bombing and killing civilians. So he cuts the deal off and then Iran comes out, says, we had a deal. And he broke that deal. Marco Rubio hit the nail in the head with the hammer. We told them, you can have nuclear power, we don't care. But they weren't building above ground nuclear facilities like anybody else. They weren't importing energy like everybody else. They were building deep underground bunkers to enrich uranium. At the same time, they were providing weapons to various factions that were attacking civilians, notably, again, I'm going to stress this now. You've got all, all your arguments about Gaza and Israel on October 7th. Fine. After October 7th and Israel launches their war into Gaza, whatever your opinions are, that's, that's fine. I'm not arguing that Iran starts arming Houthi rebels in retaliation who blow up cargo ships unrelated to any of the war. That's why they are evil, because they don't look at the war and say, we are going to fight you because you are fighting us. They say, we will kill your families, we will kill children, and we will blow up your stuff and we'll blow up their stuff. And so the US Goes, okay, these people are nuts, right? Ian, if I say I want to fight you, we're going to have fisticuffs. And you say, and then you put a hammer and say, I will crack card over the skull if you try it, I'm going to be like, bro.
D
But if you attack me and you leave your baggage train unguarded with the women and children, you better believe they're all dying.
B
They weren't our cargo ships. They were other countries transporting goods through the Red Sea. And the, the Houthis bombed them because they were like, we will not let you have trade because you are at. Because Israel's at war with Gaza and the US Is allied. We're going to bomb random civilians in the Red Sea and blow up their cargo ships. I'm sorry, that's, that's, they're the bad guys, right? We don't have to support Israel or be happy about what they're doing, but the idea that the retaliation against Israel is arming psychopaths to bomb civilians. I'm sorry, those are the bad guys. And so the US finally gets involved in a war with Iran. I am not suggesting we should have or that it was good. My argument is we didn't just willy nilly start a war with Iran. I'm not happy that we're involved with it. I would like us to not be involved with it. I'm concerned with the long term effects. Gas is at $4, diesel's at six near us. That's freaky. And it's bad for us politically and there are risks. But again, I think it was the Bill Burr joke. I can't remember who pointed out on the show that you can argue we shouldn't have gone into Iran. But to say there's no reason, really no reason. I think Iran has been evil. It's just, it's, it's evil. Someone comes to you and they're negotiating and they're negotiating with heavy power, but largely with soft power. So you give a bunch of gang bangers guns that, shooting up a school. How does that, how does, okay, now you're getting the boot. And that's what's happening now. Again, I think us getting involved in these things are, it's, it's a roller dice. It's very, very bad. It's very dangerous. But I will just say to the people who think Israel controls our foreign policy, Donald Trump did not discombobulate Caracas and then seize Maduro to get access to all of their oil infrastructure because Israel wanted him to do it. He did it because he knew the US was going to make a move on Iran and Trump was going to regime change them. Again. There's these arguments, the propaganda, oh, they're killing civilians. There's protests. The people don't like it. None of that is really relevant to what the military is trying to accomplish. That's a narrative that works for regular people who don't pay that much attention to be told, we are the good guys. I think any way you cut it, there's going to be collateral damage, which is bad, and the US Goes to great lengths to avoid it. But we are the good guys here. Rant over I.
D
My personal. I don't think there's good or bad. It's like two power structures going at. It's like Roman, like, we're like, look, bend the knee and become a client state. They're like, no, we don't want your peaceful nuclear power. We want our own weapons. We're like, die and we're going to.
B
And let's. Let me, Let me correct. Let me, let me correct that. Let me correct that for you. Let me correct that for you. So Obama said, we're going to unfreeze billions of dollars and let you do your own thing. Even bringing some of their oil by their choice into the petrodollar system, they
D
wouldn't bend the knee. They kept trying to build weapons. So then now they're getting the boot.
B
No, they started giving weapons to lunatics who are bombing embassies and killing people.
D
Secret weapons programs. I agree.
B
If I go to you and I say I'm going to give you your money back, you don't have to bend the knee. And then you plot a gun and shoot a kid, you're getting the boot.
E
It's not the Klein State offer. They were. They were supplying roadside bombs in during the Iraq war and blowing up Americans. They killed like, they killed like 300 people at the embassy in Lebanon in, like, in the 80s. They've been an adversary for a long time.
B
And Obama, Obama tried that. We're backing off. We're going to unfreeze billions. The money is yours.
D
Just.
B
I think this is a good opportunity for a cease fire. And they were like, thank you. Thank you. Make nukes and start killing more people. You can say that for a decade, as they did.
E
You can say that it's a bad idea for the US to do this. That's totally legitimate. But to say that the US Is just like, well, you have to be a client state, and that's why we're. And if you won't, that's why we're gonna do it. That's just not the economic hit. That's not, that is not that. But that's not representative reality. Like Iran has done things in the past and has done things recently that actually led to this. Again, you can say that the US shouldn't do it, that's fine. But the way that you're, you're framing the, the, the situation is totally not true.
B
It's not that, it's not, it's not that.
E
They're just like, oh, you have to be a client state or else we're going to do this. That's not the case.
D
They said, put down your weapons, basically, let us run your one.
B
Oh, they single reason.
A
There's one single reason to enrich uranium to pass the single digits. 1. And it's only to develop nuclear weapons. We said, stop doing it, stop doing it, stop doing it. They did it. Iran is an octopus, Iran's the head. And all their proxy groups are the tentacles. After October 7, Israel and the US went after the tentacles. We went after all of the proxy groups and they got weak and weak and weaker. And they felt it. Their economy was plummeting, their, their currency was almost near zero at this point, hit zero. And they were feeling it. And so they didn't really have any other options in funding their other proxy groups because they didn't have the money, because their economy is plummeting because of all the work that Israel and the US Did. And so they're backed into a corner. So they're, they're backed into a corner and they say, what do we do? How do we get out of this race to nuclear? There's one single reason, one reason only, to enrich uranium past the single digits.
B
So the question then is with Obama, his administration for eight years, going to the Iranians and say, we're cut a deal, we're going to unfreeze your money, we're going to give the money back, we're going to welcome you guys into the petrodollar system, some of the sanctions will be lifted, you'll start making more money. They immediately started enriching uranium. That's why Trump got pissed. He said, now hold on. We said, we're backing off, we're giving you your money back, we're letting you develop economically, we're putting your oil in the system, and you immediately start making bombs. You're lying to us. I don't even feel a need to analogize situation like this because I think it's obvious, but let's put it like this, Ian, you. You live on a city street, and one block over, there's a guy who keeps giving guns to gang bangers. And they're shooting people with it and they're robbing people. And you go to them and say, bro, if you keep doing this, we are going to lock you down. We're going to, we're going to stop letting delivery trucks come out of the street. You're not going to have any food. Stop doing this. And they go, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll stop. So you say, okay, then they keep doing it. Then some kids get shot. So you come over and you say, okay, we're cutting off deliveries. You're not getting any deliveries anymore. We're not going to let you do transactions. Like we are shutting you down because you're giving weapons to people who are killing others. And they say, oh, no. Oh, woe is me. So then your boy comes in and he goes, listen, this is not going to work. Let's cut a deal with them. Let's give them their money back, open things back up. And they start buying RPGs. And you're like, okay, hold on. These guys are currently assembling some RPGs. Let them do it.
D
You're asking me?
B
Obviously you don't.
D
Easement is not the word of the day.
B
No. So do you want to be like Neville Chamberlain or do you want to be Winston Churchill?
D
Had their opportunity, they missed it.
B
Who do you want to be, Neville Chamberlain or Winston Churchill?
D
I'm Churchill.
B
That means go to Iran and bomb.
D
I'm somewhere in the middle. Winston was a war man. He was a fighter.
A
This war really does boil down to a very high level question, and it's, do you believe Iran should have the capabilities to develop nuclear weapons?
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Dear no.
A
Okay, so then that's really all this boils down to.
D
Yeah. I mean, well, how we get rid of it is a big part of the debate.
B
You know, my concern with US military foreign policy largely is around wanton actions, violence, collateral damage, but principally the failure of function. And that is, Iraq was miserable. Afghanistan was doubly miserable. Obviously, these moves against Iraq and Afghanistan, for anyone who's been paying attention, was a pincer strike against Iran, because Iran has basically been funding all of the chaos and destabilizing the region. Barack Obama's strategy with Syria and isis and was it Timber Sycamore miserable? American foreign policy across the board just all the time. And now you've got collateral damage in Iran. That being said, the US is the most moral and righteous country on the planet. And in terms of global powers, historically, it is the most moral and it is the best. Certainly you can point to things that the US has done that are bad. I do it all the time. Barack Obama ordered a drone strike killing Abdul Rahman al Awlaki. And I think he did it because he wanted to send a message to the terrorists will kill your kids. I don't think that was a good thing. I don't think he was a good person. I don't think that the United States is a pure goodness all the time. I just think that when you look at what China does, there is deranged, psychotic, evil and ethnocentric evil, militaristic policies, like with the rape of Uyghur Muslims in concentration camps and forced abortions and things like that. Take a look at the conflict that's happening with Kashmir. And it's not just Pakistan and India. Don't get me wrong, the British were absolutely involved in that. Historically, it looks like the US goes to painstakingly great efforts to be just to be nice, to try and help people. But some people don't want to be helped. Some people are fundamentalist extremists who will kill you. And that was certainly isis. And that was a largely Obama's fault, his administration. I just look at the U.S. historically, I look at the communists historically, I look at the Nazis, the fascists, and you can go back way in time and you're like, man, the Americans are pussies. Like, I'm sorry, they've got tremendous. They've conquered tremendously, they've expanded, we've dominated. But my point is when I say this is not to be derisive and insult all that America is, it's the point out that we are not particularly brutal. We are fairly brutal. But compared to administrations of various governments past, we are the least brutal global hegemon.
D
Although I think the stories of World War II was that the Americans were the most terrifying guys to come into contact with because they were like a bunch of farm boys that would rip your throat out. And they were happy to do it. That's what the stories of the Japanese tell.
B
Maybe. But you take a look at the, the Japanese unit, what was it? What unit was that? Was that 731? 731. Was that what it was?
D
I think it was.
B
So you want to Google that?
D
Yeah. Let me make sure.
B
The human experiments the Japanese were doing on. Nightmarish. It's nightmarish. Like the US did not do these things, but the US had no problem Recruiting them.
D
The Americans were bigger. They were bigger than a lot of those Japanese guys. So they were, like, scary as. Coming up the.
B
Yeah, it was true. 731, man. The Nazi scientists were brutal and did human experiments. It's crazy. The Japanese as well. Americans didn't do that. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not going to pretend Americans didn't ever do anything that was untoward, bad, or wrong. Like, we know about the Tuskegee experiments.
D
Well, are we building chimeric alien life? This is what. Because this is another story. I don't know if we have this queued up.
B
Maybe that's what Epstein was doing.
E
Ian's like, let's move on.
B
Look, I'm gonna say this with all seriousness, and let's talk about aliens. I'm saying this with all seriousness. It may be that one of the reasons they will not release the Epstein info is because the children are being trafficked for the explicit purpose of alien hybrid programs. I'm only half kidding. And the reason why I say I'm only half kidding is while I do not believe that's the case with Matt Gaetz coming out and saying that they have alien hybrid programs, and now Tim Burchett is saying aliens are real. If those people are telling the truth. And have you seen all the crazy videos of stuff in the sky that's been going on? Like, yeah, maybe. Maybe that's what Epstein was. However, I would put that at an astronomically low percentage. But let me do this. We got this story from TMZ rep Tim Burchett. Aliens are real. We've made contact. I'm going to play this video, and I'm going to jump ahead. Let's play it.
D
Are you talking about a form of life that is not earthly or just something mechanical that's not earthly?
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I'd say you'd be safe to say both.
D
The way you described this, whatever happened,
C
and this meeting, this briefing that was happening. Was there something that if we knew,
D
we would feel that we are in danger?
C
You said you'd be. You wouldn't sleep at night if you knew the things that I saw in these briefings.
F
Yeah.
D
Should we believe that? That's the part where it was.
B
Seemed alarming.
F
I don't think we're at. We're at danger of this. I mean, these things exist as. As I think they do. They could have destroyed us with a blink of an eye. I just don't see that. And I think that. I just think. But so. But. But I do think they have the technology and the capabilities of, of something that we can't understand or we can't grasp.
D
What I want to make sure I'm understanding is a member, our government has told you and others, I guess, that there is a form of alien life and machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted in some form with people.
F
Yeah, they have and they've. It's just, it's. It's pretty wild. I know, I know, but if I'm just telling you, I'm not going to lie to you. I'd take a lie to tell. You won't put me on a polygraph, I'll take it. But you know, this is what the guy told me. I mean, I've had a, a very high ranking naval official describe. You know, I've talked about this before. Underwater craft, something big as a football field, Moving at over 200 miles an hour that they. And there's no fish in the ocean that would do that. We don't even have a sub that'll be. Probably do 40 miles an hour under the. And the last thing he said before he left my office was he. It was kind of weird because he didn't go out the. He went out the side door, which nobody ever uses, and he looked at me, pulled me up close, he said, tim, they're real. That's the last thing he said to me. That'll be the title of my book. I guess Matt Gates was involved in something here just recently. He was interviewed and he talked about this interbreeding thing with.
B
Yeah, no, we saw that.
D
We saw that.
F
Well, you know, that was a, as a true story. That was a military person, military personnel. I think that would be a good, good story to talk to him about if you, if you can, can do that.
C
Right. He says he learned that from someone in the military.
B
So. Tim Burchett, aliens are real. I got some videos for you that I want to play. And let's, let's pull these clips in. We've got this video which is weird. Check this out. Something falling in the sky. Could it be. It could be a million and one things. Doesn't mean it's aliens or anything like that. But check this out. You can see the point of impact. Just keep watching. You'll see it with the flash bang. You saw that this is purportedly the, the crash site of where whatever was falling landed. I will stress it's the Internet. These things could be.
A
Where is it?
B
This was in Jabun region of Indonesia. So they're saying if it would have fallen at an angle if it was a meteor, meteorite, missile or space debris. That's not true. A UFO crash? Well, yeah, literally we don't know what it was. But then we've got this video. Check this out. So what could that be?
E
That's something breaking up clearly.
B
Yeah. Yep. That's not a meteorite. Some. So there's been a of speculation that maybe what's happening is I think one of the most reasonable things to assume. With the conflict in Iran, Russia and China have begun using space weapons to blow up our satellite resources. Because GPS is military or the US
D
is blowing up anything non us that's up there.
B
We are at war in space. We have a space force. And some people are speculating that all of these things people are seeing are not meteors. It's we are at war in space. We are blowing up adverse our adversaries. Space technology.
E
That would have to be very sizable piece of equipment to make that kind of trail coming in and have that many pieces falling off. Like it's not small. Like that reminded me of. Of one of the times that starship blew up when it was returning to Earth.
B
Was it.
D
Was that on return that second video?
B
Or is that it looked like it
D
was on launch that it was breaking apart. But maybe it's just.
E
I don't know. I have no way.
B
Take a look at this. You tell me what this is, Ian. Really hot debris.
D
It looks like something cut through the cloud.
B
There's something in the sky. That.
E
That is weird.
D
Yeah.
A
Crazy.
D
Luminescent debris of some sort.
B
It's just staying there though.
D
Yeah, it's like a cloud of. Of debris. Maybe it's like a cloud of debris. Luminescent maybe.
B
It looks like there's.
E
That looks like more like a spaceship.
B
Everyone's saying it's spaceship.
F
Yeah.
E
Oh, they are.
D
No, it looks like gas.
B
What?
D
It's like an airplane cut through gas.
B
What the lights.
C
Well, that is.
D
It's an interesting shape.
A
It's like windows.
B
Yeah. It's very symmetrical. I wonder if it could just be the light from the buildings on the roof is just hitting the clouds and reflecting back.
E
Yeah.
D
You know, it's a video, a grainy video. They might be working with that sound. The discombobulator sound tech from orbit and like vibrating images or atmosphere.
B
Well, I will say this. Whatever that is, I'm sure there's always a rational explanation. However, why are all of these sightings happening right now? Is it just that because people hear it in the news, they start reporting and looking in the sky.
F
Yeah.
D
It is a psyop. I believe Tim Burchett was psyoped by this. This intel guy who came in and was like, tell people there are ants. I wonder if Tim believes it or if he's like, I'm buying into the war propaganda now. I'm just gonna play the part. Or if he's. If he just believes it without questioning it, or if he think. Or if he's lying.
B
War propaganda.
A
I think he. I think he believes it.
D
It.
A
I. I do. I think he believes that. I think a lot of people believe this. He said it was all the Alphabet agencies that told him this. So he's not saying it was just one person. He said it was a bunch of off the record conversations that didn't sound
C
like he believed it. Right. Sounded like, I don't know, sound very passive. He was kind of joking, too, and, like, laughing. Well, I didn't sound like a serious reporter.
A
I think he knows it's crazy to say.
B
Yeah, I think I. But I think someone did tell him this. I think Matt Gates is telling the truth. I just think their attitude is kind of like, what are we gonna do about it? Like. Like you're pointing out, Ian, maybe military guys are saying, let's see this story to create distractions. People will care much more about aliens and focus on other things instead of war. And they know a member of Congress. I mean, listen, if aliens were real and they were gonna tell them, they'd classify it. It'd be top secret. They put a skiff. They wouldn't just tell him. So I'd be more inclined to believe they're ceding a psyop. Like Ian's pointing out, not for war propaganda thing, but for some kind of distraction.
D
He did it with Bob Lazar, too. He went to Area 51, where he used to work inside. They brought him inside, and they showed him what I think were drones, different designs. And he's like, oh, my God. With, like, metamaterials that hadn't been seen yet, you know, nanotech. And so they told him they're alien craft, and they may have even put an animal or a stuffed animal or something in one. And they were like, look, now we're talking about chimeras.
B
Hold on. I'm sorry. Sorry to interrupt, but they don't need metamaterials or nanoparticles. All they need to do aluminum. All they need to do is go like this. Ian, see my thumb? Watch this. Look at my thumb. Like, they literally just work on me. They do magic tricks.
D
Yeah, maybe they were Doing that too, I don't know. But I do think, I think advanced drone tech, since they do.
C
They really needed to distract Americans. Americans are so distracted, they don't.
B
Of course, Americans don't even know that. A lot of the countries don't even
C
know we're at war.
B
Still, there is a really great reason to make a fake campaign tricking Bob Lazar. The first is the assumption that Bob Lazar is in on the whole thing. And they said, here's the story we want you to present. However, that's tough to maintain. Right. The easier thing to make someone a true believer would be take a guy who shouldn't be contracted for this job, set up a stage, like, not like a staging area where you have a bunch of magic tricks and he sees them and you tell him they're real, and then he runs to the media and leaks it. Why? Because the Soviets are listening. Well, to be fair, at this point, I don't know that. What year was this? Was this. This was.
D
I don't know.
B
Yeah, this was post Soviet era, I believe. But our. But the point is, you make your enemies think you have advanced weapons and technology they can't account for. It makes them scared to attack you. So what I would say is, my belief on Bob Lazar is they psyoped him. They said, bring a guy in, do a magic show, right? He says a little green man was standing next to a vehicle. Oh, a little green man, huh? He's later retracted that saying, oh, I must have been mistaken. Yeah, sure. I think they make him see all these things that he wants to believe and then they set him up to go and leak to a reporter and it makes great news. And then everyone tells the world, American has access. America has access to alien technology.
D
Sure. He said he got up close to the one and he tried to put his hand on it and it pushed him away. So like there could be vibration tech they're building, but it all could have been imagined.
B
No, that's possible. Acoustic force fields. Yeah.
D
And cold metals and stuff.
E
Went public in 1989.
D
1989 and then something else in 2003. Now the Chimera stuff of like alien human hybrids or just like alien or human animal hybrids might be. We were talking about is the America the most ethical country on the planet?
E
We are.
D
It is like, are we experimenting on like, check this out. Chimera sizing humans with dogs and monkeys so that they can. Is there a cosmic and stuff.
B
Acoustic levitation?
D
Yes.
B
You never see this super cold focus
A
on a point and you can levitate something at that point in midair. This is real. Yo Houston, we have levitation. We just made this happen here. The main concept here is standing waves. Standing waves can happen anywhere you use the right frequency on a confined medium. Like when you disturb a slinky at one end, the disturbance or wave travels to the other end. If I then constrain or bound the slinky at the other end, the wave will reflect back. The places along the standing wave that aren't moving at all are called nodes. The nodes here are the places where the air is not moving even though it's moving a lot everywhere else around the node. Node. So in our levitator, our little pieces of styrofoam and lint, they get held there at the nodes because if they're anywhere else, they'll get pushed back in or pushed out. And there you have acoustic levitation.
B
Have you ever imagine if the US government build a massive stadium sized acoustic levitator because we have the tech, why wouldn't they at least try it? And then they had a UFO levitating and they said, hey Bob, look. And he went, oh my God, it's levitating. Can't move anywhere, you know, but it looks crazy.
D
I think if you move the standing waves, you can move it around. I think in theory, yes, but you
B
need emitters to move it. It's not self propelling. Although it would be interesting if there is a way to create a self contained acoustic wave generator that could create standing waves that could be. That could move almost like a rudimentary warp technology that moves the waves, causing you to stick to the node and move around.
D
Yeah, yeah. I think it's talking plasma. But for wave generation for acoustics, you would either have to move super fast or super slow. Like, like that's why super cold things can they stop moving so they. Then you can kind of spin really
B
fast and reduce quantum locking. Is that what you're talking about?
D
Geez, I don't even know what you would call it.
B
There's so many terms. I think it's called quantum locking.
D
There's something about reversing horizontal momentum or increasing horizontal momentum by spinning super fast that it reduces vertical momentum to zero and then you're able to kind of go wherever.
B
Quantum locking, you notice it too.
D
If you spin like a really fast thing on a stick, it'll be really easy to lift like hundreds of pounds, you know?
B
Yeah. Here, check it out. Quantum locking.
D
Oh.
C
To become superconducting material has to be cooled to extremely low temperatures. Using liquid nitrogen, which can dramatically change
B
the properties of materials. Wow.
C
When a superconductor is placed into the magnetic field above a magnet, it expels all the magnetic fields from within itself, except for weak points where the magnetic field lines are locked inside. When the magnet is moved, the superconductor will move as well to keep the magnetism locked in the weak points. With a clever layout of magnets, the superconductor can be made to travel around the track. The superconductor is first cooled before being placed onto the track. You only need £1,70,000 to be superconducting, so a small superconductor can hold a huge weight. Similar technology is already used in certain magnetically levitated trains. But who knows what the future holds for quantum locking? Maybe even Marty McFly and his hoverboard will be seen soon.
B
So the question then is, if they can maintain ultra low temperatures. You could have frictionless motion. I mean, the amount of energy. Well, I guess the question is, how much energy do you need to reach that low of a temperature? It's probably greater than just driving the car. But if we could ever find a way to keep temperatures artificially cooled to an extreme degree that you can quantum lock, then you would need a minimal amount of force to propel a train, like you already mentioned, or vehicles.
D
You know, they figured out how to decouple heat from electricity using graphene as a waveguide in last November. Decouple heat from electricity. So electricity is no longer hot in this medium. You might be able to go super cool with that phenomenon.
B
Wow.
D
Yeah, it's cool story.
E
Cool indeed.
A
That's a heavy part of the.
B
So, you know, really what really gets me about all this alien stuff is just this idea, like, as Tim Burchette's pointing out, that aliens are so technologically advanced that we are basically nothing. And they've got something as big as two football fields moving 200 miles an hour underwater, and we can't even go 40 in a submarine. It's. It's almost like. Like imagining you're on a sailboat seeing a plane for the first time. Like, you're on an old caravel in the 1500s and a plane flies by, you'd be like, what?
D
It must be like they're telling us, look, if they just came out and they were like, we have this technology, look, then the Chinese would be like, oh, crap, they have the technology. If you say it's aliens, the Chinese might actually believe it and then start defending against an alien attack that'll never Come so like, great up. Great. Like red herring. Other than that, I'm just like, yo be straight up with the tech we have and how dominant of a force we are, I guess you just really can't.
E
Well, that, that is. They want to keep that kind of stuff secret. You know, you don't tell everyone the type of weapons that you have because
D
you can't just tell the American citizenry. You can either tell the world or tell no one.
E
Yeah, that's why they tell no one, you know, because I mean, look what happened in Venezuela. There was all kinds of technology that the average citizen didn't know the US had when they went in there, you know?
B
Yeah, I wonder if this is just. It's a psyop. It's a lie. We actually do have. It's, it's, it's American technology.
D
But it's the chimeras I'm interested in because I think those are real human animal hybrids. Alex Jones been talking about this for like 20, 30.
B
Long, long time.
D
Maybe they're genetically modifying people to be able to handle cosmic rays because they're like, they don't know how to get.
A
Who's they? I feel like the government.
E
Yeah.
A
Who's they run efficiently enough to do something like this or pull something like this off? Say if the private sector can't figure it out, the government is so inefficient.
B
Who's they say Itian. Oh, really?
D
Well, there's a, there's a country in the Middle east that just get involved with Qatar. It was cutter all.
B
I knew it. It's Kuwait. I think Bahrain.
D
Corporations like deep seated military tech corporations that have super advanced quantum AI and stuff that we don't even know exist that are contracted by the government.
A
I think the military, I think our government is so inefficient and so slow that they're like words. There's just no way.
B
But I really don't believe that.
E
I think the.
C
What Phil brought up in that Venezuela operation is when like Americans found out, holy crap, U. S. Government has like that Havana syndrome. I remember when that story came out a couple years ago in 60 Minutes, I was like, this is a psyop story. But then actually come out that, yeah, the US now now has possession of it.
E
So I think it's fair to say that this populator. Yeah, I love the name. I think it's also fair to say that, you know, just because, you know, the US Hasn't. Just because we saw those weapons doesn't mean that the US doesn't have Other things, right, that we're, that we're totally unaware of, you know, haven't used yet.
B
The US has cancer guns, right? They can give you cancer from like. I'm not going to get into details how they do it because this story is well known in the public where a guy accidentally or intentionally made one of these things. But they can make directional radiation directed energy weapons. They can literally point a weapon at you and while you're sitting there eating food at a restaurant, blast you with ionizing radiation that will rip your internal organs to shreds. That's. That's. And that's old. Old. That's like a hundred year old technology.
E
Leukemia in a week.
B
Yeah. There was this story that went super viral because of 4chan. 4chan found a Facebook profile from some woman and she was making an insane amount of posts. And the posts were all just incoherent rambling, like paragraphs. It would say something like, I went to the gym today, but I forgot my oatmeal spoon and the dog that ran past me was yelping. So I went outside to take a look at the rainbow, but the rainbow was actually pointed down and I couldn't actually see the sewer. And people are like, what is this? It's like incoherent nonsense. And there were a few theories. One was that that the profile existed as a means for covert agents to communicate in a coded language that no one would know how to find it. So think about it. It's kind of crazy if you're a spy working for a foreign government and you're in a country and you need to communicate with your handlers, you pull up, you need to receive orders. For instance, you go to Facebook, you just browse in Facebook. You read a Facebook post. How are they going to know what that the post that you were serving on Facebook was the message. And so you see this coded language. But the craziest theory, some claimed this woman worked for Canadian intelligence, the Canadian government, at some point, and then abruptly her career ended. And the, the conspiracy theory was when they burn a spy, they need to like if. So burning a spy is basically, we're cutting you off, you're done if they don't want to kill you. Or killing you could cause an incident, a scene, or, or draw attention. They induce psychosis with a drug cocktail. So they'll break in your house, pin you down, inject you and fry your brain. And so she's sitting there typing out what she thinks is, this is what they did to me. But all it is, is Incoherent babbling
A
about nonsense, or she was schizophrenic.
B
That's true too. Always a possibility, but not nearly as fun. Yeah, just kind of mundane. Yeah, but wouldn't that be exactly how you dispose of a spy that you could not take out? If there was an individual that worked in intel and they said, listen, we can't take this person out because it would cause a scene, people would find out, so what do you do? Induce psychosis, make them just another crazy person who can't explain anything. And then they're grabbing Ian in their mind, they're saying they have biological weapons they're going to unleash and it's going to be unleashed in 2020, I'm warning you. And Ian's sitting there and hears banana, oatmeal, spoon dogs, dog saliva. And Ian's like, this is. This person's crazy.
E
Ian would totally be like, I get it, man. Right there with you speaking my language, brother, heal you. Hell yeah.
B
Like, Ian's the one person who can translate psychosis language to English. And then the handlers are like, wait, what's happening? Ian's. And then Ian starts writing down like everything she's saying, but perfect translation. How is he doing this psycho babble? I learned how to speak psychobabble after my fifth DMT trip.
C
Well, Tim, there's one story of that, that one journalist who fought, who followed the Carls Manson story. Yeah, Charles. And, and, and I guess when he was working that story found the MK Ultra and instances were like u. S. Military service members who had clean records throughout their whole lives, all of a sudden were found with the psychosis. One, I believe, like one airman ended up like sexually assaulting a young girl. And even though he had no criminal history, no recollection, and I think it's kind of maybe connected to a little bit of that. The whole MK Ultra and cool man lsd, you know. You know, guys, when there's individuals, like Tim said, where you can't take out cost too much of a scene, or there's too much connected to that story, this is kind of a way to. To flip that individual.
B
I'm sorry, I think it's all just greater Earth, you guys, we've talked about this before. I talked about it earlier today. You know, Greater Earth theory is. No, I love this one. My favorite conspiracy theories, the idea is that the ice wall is a real thing, but the earth isn't flat. The earth is actually massive. And the seven continents we know are surrounded by a giant ring of ice where the great nations of Tartaria and Atlantis use us as slave labor to mine gold.
A
I do know this.
F
Yeah.
E
So get that gold.
B
Earth is round and we are just slaves. And the reason why is Harriet Tubman said, I freed many slaves. I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves. If you want to have an effective slave population, they can't know they're slaves. They have to think they're free. So we are basically just chickens in a chicken coop doing manual labor and mining gold for the great nations that are immortal, that fly around and can do whatever they want whenever they want.
D
That's why you got to eat gold. They'll be like, hey, don't sample the product, man. And you'll be like, don't sample the product. It's free.
E
You gotta drink Goldslagger, Right?
D
Well, I do. Monoatomic gold, it's suspended in water.
F
Yeah.
D
And it's like one part. One part percentage. Well, I've heard that it digest the blood brain barrier, it coats the blood brain brain barrier, it coats the neurons and makes them superconduct. So it's really good for that. It. From what I noticed when I was stretching, it would feel like. When I would go to tear a muscle because I was stretching too far, it would seep into the muscle and fill it like. Like clay. And I could stretch super far when I had gold in my system. And then my pee was gold and my. I drank so much that my voice started to rust. I was like, all right, you gotta go easy.
B
What?
C
Rusty Trump content.
B
Gold doesn't oxidize.
E
No, it doesn't. It doesn't go awesome.
D
It's in. It just inertly passes through your system.
E
It doesn't out. It doesn't break.
C
I don't care.
B
Let him believe. All right, let me read this. There's no credible scientific evidence that monoatomic gold exists as described or produces these effects. Gold is a metal that normally forms clusters of nan or nanoparticles. Not. Not stable. Isolated single atoms in the way claimed true monoatomic elements are limited to noble gases like helium or argon. Claims of orbitally rearranged states or 44 mass disappearance during production lack animate verification. Let's see. Metallic or colloidal gold is chemically inert in the body. It passes through the. The digestive system, largely unchanged, is not absorbed into the bloodstream or brain in meaningful amounts. It has no known biological role or superconducting effect inside cells.
D
Yeah, that's mono. That's colloidal meaning it's two or more gold molecule or gold atoms. The monoatomic.
B
If you.
D
From what I'm told, it will go through the. I don't know if it's true or not. I haven't been able to, you know, do the tests.
B
But you.
D
Colloidal is easier to get. I have tried it at least.
B
So you don't know what it does? You haven't figured it out?
D
I'm the test subject. Like, I'm a shaman. I'll try a little bit here and there to see. But a guy told me to do it and I was like, I'm into colloidal metals. You know, they mine so much gold out of the earth that we don't have it in our diet anymore. So we get our iron kind of guy. You get like trace minerals and elements. Bro, we're missing gold. I watched they touch it to their skin because it goes through your skin like gold crowns and rings.
B
I watched the best baking video ever. It was a guy making modern American bread and it's disgusting.
C
This just took a turn. Hold on, wait.
B
No, no, no, no, no. He. To make modern American bread. It's a whole bunch of insane chemicals. You don't even know what it is.
A
Oh, God. So.
B
And he's mixing weird dishes, disgusting things. He's like. He took.
A
Poisoning us.
B
He took flour and he's like, now we have to bleach the flour with chlorine gas. And he takes flour and he pumps chlorine gas into it and it turns white. It's nasty. He's mixing all the weird garbage into it. And he. And. And like, this is what you're eating.
D
That's disgusting. I don't. I don't eat.
B
So. So anyway, the point I. The reason I bring this up is because what reminding me of it is, he says after we bleach the flour, we have to add vitamins to it because all the vitamins have been stripped from the earth. Oh, wheat used to have vitamins in it, and you'd eat it. And then this guy, who. Norman Borlaug is his name, and he's the perfect example of like a goody two shoes communist. So he's not a communist. What he did was he did selective breeding to quadruple crop yield for wheat. And what this did was maximize starch production, allowing more people to have access to food. But the amount of nutrients and minerals remained static for the area where the crops were being grown. Thus, we now have large populations of nutritionally devoid, morbidly obese People. And he's heralded as, like, a great man who saved billions of lives by creating this, like, this crop yield, expanding it, but in reality, it just made food worse.
D
Yeah, like, growth at what cost? I get in the rare earth metals like iridium, rhodium, you know, platinum, palladium. You can eat those because they used to be in the soil pretty, you know, and then the humans mined a lot of it out, so you don't get it.
B
But from.
D
I don't know, you know, the FDA hasn't, like, come out and been like, you gotta get your colloidal gold. But there's a lot of people that talk about metals, and I've noticed, like,
C
I want to try rob. It's gonna help me with my stretching.
D
Yeah.
C
Iridium carnes out of taco.
B
You think it's Phil? Phil's rocking with me.
C
Phil's rocking with me.
E
Golden taco man.
D
I got manic when I was taking gold. I wanted to give it to people. I'd like, buy people colloidal gold. And I'm like, you gotta try this. It's so good for you. But I was crazy. I went a little crazy because I was so into it. But the other ones, like iridium and ruthenium, I think repair your DNA. I could be wrong. But if you read about each of these.
C
Manly voice bro gave more manly voice gold. Yeah.
D
No, it made it horny. It made it go, like, sound like it was rusting. Like this kind of a little more.
F
Oh.
D
Then it took, like, a couple days.
B
And I think that's just placebo effect. I think you did that.
C
Yeah, yeah.
D
The pee was gold, dude. It was like, whoa, my toilet bowl is like gold.
B
I had a friend once, and we were going for a job interview, and he was a big pothead, so he bought one of those cleanses where you slam it, and then like, a week later, they claim you'll pass your test or whatever. But he. He slammed it, like, a day before the drug test. And so we went in for the P test. And I don't. I don't smoke or do any drugs, so I don't care. But he said that his piss was neon green. And they looked at him and he was like, I drink a lot of Mountain Dew. And they just, like, rolled their eyes because all that means you have high B vitamins. And that was it. But he, like, didn't understand that. So let's jump to this next story. This is an old article from Bounding Into Comics. Angel Studios and Andy Circus face criticism for Animal Farm cast and comedic tone. Well, some news has occurred and it involves me and I think it's worth talking about. The first thing I'm going to say is the. They've announced the date for the release of this pro communist film, Animal Farm.
E
Unreal.
B
And we had been asked to read ads for it on this show. Now, I am a huge fan of Angel Studios. They do a lot of really great work. Not everything they do is perfect, but that's okay. And their members saw this film and voted to. To purchase it for distribution because it's Animal Farm. For those that aren't familiar, I assume most of you are. It's the classic George Orwell novel that is an allegory for the Bolshevik revolution and how communists are bad.
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Bad.
B
The story is wholly just about how communists are bad. And that's about it. This film is an anti capitalist film that is actually pro communist, or at least I would call it like PRO Agenda 2030, PRO WEF. The whole stakeholders, you will own nothing and be happy kind of mentality. And what happened was, was when the trailer was released several months ago, it was heavily criticized by everybody. Hence this article. Because the trailer shows there's a new villain, Elon Musk's mom, driving a cybertruck. Not an exaggeration. Literally, Elon Musk's mom.
A
What?
B
Elon Musk's mom is the villain. It's not even a joke.
D
It's not. Her name's not Maye Musk.
B
No, it's shout out to May. It's Pilkington.
A
She's great. She's been put through hell.
B
Take a look at Pilkington, the character in the trailer, and take a look at Maye Musk. It's a. It's a cartoon version of her. She's driving a cybertruck truck. That's. I'm just. It's literally a cyber truck. It's got wheel wells on it. But we all know what they were going for. The film is explicitly anti capitalist. And so following the criticism, I critiqued it. So I shouldn't say following the criticism, but everyone critiqued it, including myself. So they reached out to our ad team to buy ads, which I respect. And we've done ads we've promoted for them before. And this one, the. The script was basically like, you know, make this in your own words. Here's what we want, Tim, to effectively explain. What they wanted me to do was to say that I was wrong for critiquing the film before seeing it and to be a little bit self Deprecating and then tell people that I did see it and that the movie is actually good. They sent me a screener to watch before the ad, so it's somewhat above board. I say somewhat because they knew that I was critical of the trailer. And I suppose their view was if Tim sees the film, he'll change his mind. So let's ask him to watch the film and then he'll change his mind and then we'll pay him to do it.
A
Did you?
B
No. I watched the film and in the first five minutes I turned it off. I was insanely offended that they would even suggest my mind would be changed to. From watching this. I immediately messaged Kellen, our producer, and you know, he runs all the ads and all the production. And I said, bro, we can't. I can't do this ad is nuts. I was like, I can't even make it five minutes, it's so thick. The anti capitalism. And so I said, you know, I'm gonna finish it. Turned it back on, finished the movie. Holy crap. It's pro communism entirely and it's wholly anti capitalism. I don't want to spoil any of the movie bits, so I'll keep for the. Keep it for the most part, things you may have seen from the trailer, but I will just say this. The main villain is Elon Musk's mom, a corporatist. And the. The motivations behind the bad guys are finance financially related. The exploitation is not communist related. It is. It is. It is monetary and capitalist. The struggles the animals face are based on monetary policy and not. Not communist political revolution. It is entirely. The movie starts with a critique of banking and finance and capital. And the. One of the antagonists is working for the bank and the main villain is a corporatist who's trying to buy everything. The pigs are effectively henchmen. And I will just say that the. The ending is just bonkers insane. It's not. It's not family friendly. Not. Absolutely not. This is not a movie for kids. There's elements of leftist terrorism in it. And I would argue that the message is capital structures are inherently bad and you must kill everyone to accomplish your goals of freeing the people from their oppression. And I'm like, yeah, that's all just literally Marxist garbage.
D
I read this in 2003 and so it's been a long time. But I remember the villain was the main pig in the book.
B
Yeah. Not in the movie.
D
The farmer. It was sort of like. It shows you the danger of capitalism in the very beginning because the farmer has become like this monarch. And they're like, they've had enough. He's mismanaging the farm. They chase him off the farm. So like, okay, we get it. There are problems with capitalism and then the communism starts to seep in the vanguardism. And the whole thing's about the internal struggle of the farm. There's very little external force of capital in that.
B
Oh, bro.
E
But you started by saying that the. The farmer is a monarch.
D
He was like the. Yeah, it's like the capitalist monarch, you know, the corporatist.
B
And it's like, that's not. That's. That's the beginning of the book.
D
They kick him out right away.
B
Yes, but he's not a capitalist.
D
He's the owner. Yeah, he's the owner.
B
He's the. He's. He rules over the farm and he's a drunkard who forgets to feed the animals and generally mistreats them. So they have a revolt against him and take over. Yeah, not in the movie.
A
The monarch thing went over his head, bro.
B
I don't want to say spoil parts of the movie, but let me just say he's the farmer. Jones in the film is actually a victim of capitalism. He is portrayed as a victim of capital.
D
No, he was a victim of his own infertility. I think they.
B
They like. It's really amazing how they are trying to trick people. I think the film, not necessarily the Angel Studios. Here's my genuine thought on what happened. I could be wrong. Well, the Harmon Brothers, founders of angel, have asked to come on and talk about this. I said absolutely, because we're fans. They've done great work in the past. I think this was just a flub. And here's what I think happened. I think that Hollywood produces an Animal Farm movie with the explicit intention to trick families into bringing their kids into a pro communist film and destroying the message of Animal Farm. I believe that this production, it's so thick, the anti capitalism, like, like they're hitting you over the head with it. It's just screaming with Elon Musk's mom is the villain driving a cybertruck. I mean, it's just so overt. There's things again, I don't want to spoil it because the movie's not out and I wasn't asked to do a strong review of it. I think Hollywood said, how do we make kids communist? Well, first we do it. We destroy the culture of America. George Orwell was not by any means a strong capitalist, but he did criticize the Bolshevik revolution and communism Masterfully let's destroy that cultural work. Make a film which should supplant the movie. I'm sorry, Supplant the book and will change the narrative, keeping some of the key story elements but making it explicitly anti capital instead. I think that Angel Studios gets word that Animal Farm is being adapted and it's got a bunch of a lister celebrities and they think anti communist story right up our alley. A listers. Let's acquire the rights. The Angel Studios members, according to them, said that they approved it. I think that at the head of the higher ups, I don't think they watched the movie before they acquired it. Again, just my opinion and I'm probably wrong, but it seems to me like what really happened. And again, maybe not the case. I don't want to, you know, say I know for sure. When they heard that Animal Farm was going to be available, they were like, we have to have this. So they bid on it without understanding or seeing the full film.
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Film.
B
Once they acquired it and committed massive amounts of money to the distribution and contractually obligated, then they learned everyone's like, this is pro communism. And then they're like, crap, what do we do? You got a distribution contract for a big film. You purchased it. You're gonna lose money if you don't. And you could, depending on how the contract is structured, you could be in breach if you don't distribute it properly because you've agreed to do that. So I wonder if what actually happened is they know full well and that's why they reframed it as anti cronyism. That's what Angel Studios has been calling it. It's anti cronyism because the capitalist structures are actually not really capitalist. They're, you know, monopolies. They're cronyist. No. Government never plays a role in this whatsoever. Not one time does anything with government happen where the government teams up with corporations. In fact, wholly. The whole thing is more so a critique of private equity structures. I will put it like this. In the book, the pigs are communist revolutionaries. They tell everybody we're equal. Nope. In the movie, there's a pig who says, everybody who's equal. And this is in the book too, by the way, so I don't consider it a spoiler. Snowball gets cast out. Snowball is the true.
D
It's my hero, dude.
B
Yeah. Snowball is the true revolutionary and Napoleon is the power hungry. The movie is basically Snowball says we're all equal and a plane's like, no, we're not. And then basically he Private equities, the farm. So not spoiling anything, but instead of it being about a communist revolutionary with a dictator takes over to steal everything. This movie is about some people who start a private equity firm. And that's the. That's what the story's about. And there's a. There's a big, shocking leftist terror attack. And, you know, I don't want to say too much. A lot of death, a lot of murder.
E
Sadness.
B
No, they're not sad.
D
Boxer works pretty hard. Boxer, big horse. He's.
B
Yeah.
E
Sad story.
A
Is there suffering? Is the suffering highlighted?
B
Nope. The. They don't really suffer highlight any suffering at all. In fact, it's more like.
A
So it's a lie.
B
I'm gonna. I'm gonna spoil a little bit. I have to spoil just a little bit. Wait, the critique of the film.
D
Never mind.
E
Just do it.
B
The critique of the film is that the animals are working and the pigs are taking a profit and going to the mall with it. And the animals are upset that the pigs are using the excess revenue for. For. They're using the profit to enrich themselves. Which I suppose the argument is, well, that's what the communists do, but that's not what the film is about. The film is literally like the animals being like, we're doing all the work, but they're taking the profit from us. And I'm like, oh, my God. It is explicit, explicitly, and the ending is basically the. The. The fake. The. The new characters, they were added to the movie that are not in the books are basic. They may as well end the film by saying, well, we own nothing, but now we'll all be happy. That's basically the conclusion. And I'm like, dude, Angel Studios dropped the ball in this one big time, you know, And a lot of people are saying they're canceling their memberships and all that stuff. I think that's silly. I'm gonna cancel your subscription Angel Studios because I bought a bad film. But I don't know how you navigate out of this one. Like, bro, you got a pro communist film that's. That's taking a dump all over the original book. It is. It is brutal.
E
Yeah. I don't understand. Well, I mean, actually, I do understand. It's. It's subversion, which is something that the left loves to do. They love to take something that is. Is intended to criticize the left or something that the population of a country holds dear and then subvert it and in some way convince the people that. No, actually, this thing that you loved it's about us. And it's. It's. It's something that we. It represents our values and not your own.
B
You know what? I'll say this.
E
I'll.
B
I'm not going to spoil the film because there are unique elements that are not in the book that people may want to see. But on the uncensored portion of the show, I'll give the minor est of details. There are things that I can tell you based off what you've seen in the trailer that I can add more context to. But for the sake of not trying to just spoil the whole thing, I guess I can say this. The uncensored show will be at 10. I'll give a little bit more detail, but I won't spoil any major plot points. I will just say, for now, the plot is so dramatically different, I could spoil it. That's one of the issues. If this was just an adaptation of the book, I'd be like, what can I say? It's the book. You've seen the book. The book's 100 years old or whatever.
D
I don't know.
B
Like, I could tell you, literally, the book's about. And the movie's the same. Nope. They are 20% maybe.
D
Freaking terrifying, dude. That they got Seth Rogen to headline.
B
That's not terrifying. Of course.
D
Movies called Animal Farm. And it's not Animal Farm.
B
It's not Animal Farm.
E
It's.
B
Dude, it is. It is. It is so wild.
E
I didn't know that Seth Rogen was involved in it.
B
He's. He's.
D
He's.
B
He plays the main villain. He plays Napoleon.
E
It's not a surprise. Once you.
B
Bro, you cannot bring your kids to see this movie.
E
When you see this, it looks like it's for kids.
D
It's a cartoon.
B
Oh, it's not pigs.
D
The trailer looks like pigs falling over each other.
B
I think this is fair to say there's murder in it. That's crazy. It looks like a kid. I will say this. I will say this. Obviously, in Animal Farm, Boxer, the horse, what happens? He gets injured, and then Napoleon sends it to a glue factory. Yeah, that's in the book.
D
That's, like, near the end.
B
So obviously something to that effect is in the. In the movie. It's just done in a very different way.
A
Oh, boy.
B
Very different way. And yeah, I will add there, the. The Elon Musk's mom arc. It's just so wild.
D
Have her kind of like Cruella de Vil. She kind of like, walks like that. Like she's gonna throw shade.
B
You Know, there's a lot of murder in the film that I think is not appropriate for fans, families.
D
What's it rated?
B
You know, I think it's pg 13.
E
Communist.
B
I would put it like this. You know, I mean, to be fair, my daughter is only a year old, so she's not watching any movies anytime soon. But I wouldn't bring a seven year old to see it. I wouldn't bring an eight year old. Nah.
D
My brain wasn't ready for Animal Farm if I was 20.
B
To be fair, considering it's pro communist, I would never bring my family to see it.
D
It.
B
But I will say this just of the violence elements, PG 13. Well, yeah, like in cartoon violence I think is fine for kids under 13. You know, like Bugs Bunny bopping a guy in the head and he gets a, he gets a, you know, a bump comes up. I don't really care all that much about Looney Tunes kind of violence, but this is more like it's murder, you know, like horrible. Yeah, I just, I'm like, I don't, I don't think that's appropriate for children.
A
There's such a big push on the left of pushing towards this like democratic socialism, which is no different to communism. And so there are these, there's money and power that is pushing this communist idea because they know that that's what it eventually leads to. They just hope that the Orwell looks too stupid.
B
Was Orwell. He was a democratic socialist.
E
He started out as a socialist and then he, he saw what happened in
D
Road to Wigan Pier, one of the books. He followed the coal miners around. He's like, they just hate the.
E
The poor. Yeah, but he said, I mean like the, the Animal Farm was actually a critique of Len of the Soviet Union and.
B
Yeah, it was, it was. Stalin and Trotsky, I believe were specifically the Alagor of the Pigs Y. And what I will say is a major character from the book is not even in the movie at all, which is. And yeah, I think, I mean, I have to say this because if you're expecting to see old Major in the film, it doesn't exist. And that was supposed to be an allegory to Lennon, I believe, in, in Animal Farm.
D
Who is old Major. What is he, a donkey?
B
God, I haven't read that book.
D
I think Stalin poisoned Lennon and took power. I don't can't prove it, but it just seems like Lennon got real sick real fast and then Stalin was standing over his shoulder, like waiting.
B
He's the prize winning boy. Yeah. The oldest and wisest Major, he's meant to represent Lenin or Marx.
D
You've got to read that. It's 100 pages in an evening.
B
I think that's fair to say. I don't consider that a spoiler because if. Because there may be people who are like, oh, I can't wait to see this part of the story doesn't exist.
A
Inconvenient, you know, Inconvenient truth.
B
I don't know if it's a spoiler to say if something's not in the film. Do you guys consider that I don't think audience is going to be watching
A
it after this reveal?
B
Well, yeah, but it's not just that. It's about at least giving a modicum of respect to Angel Studios and not saying, I'm gonna ruin this project. I think saying, just because I didn't like it and I was offended by it doesn't mean I should take that away from a company that is offering a product to people they can choose to see or not.
E
I don't know.
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It's not. I was not asked to reveal story elements. I was not given a screener so that I could expose what the story is about. I don't want to do that to Angel Studios. If people really want to see for themselves and learn, fine. If they reached out to me and said, tim, here's a screener. Please give a review of the story. Spoilers are fine. Then I would do it. But I think it's fair to say if a character is not in the film, that is an important point to bring up, because people might be going to this film expecting it to be a one for one adaptation of Animal Farm. It is a completely different movie. It is a completely different movie. And the reason why I'm saying I won't spoil it is because I could. Like. It is so different from the book. I would have to spoil a new script unrelated to Animal Farm, I thought, or Jurassic Park.
D
The movie really downplayed Muldoon. He was my favorite character in the book. I know it's.
B
Wasn't the book written after the fact?
D
I was in first 92. Michael Crichton. I read it in sixth grade. It was phenomenal. Nedry gets his eyes poisoned by the copies, and then he's like. When he's trying to steal the eggs, he gets his stomach ripped open as he can't see it, but you can feel it. Like the movie.
B
Amazing how, like, the original Jurassic park story was awesome, but now they just made 15 versions of Trash.
D
Yeah, the original was like, capitalism, anarchy.
B
Like I mean, it was on an island. Interesting.
D
Sci fi man reads dinosaurs on an island.
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Like, yeah, it's fun. And now it's like, we just keep doing it. Oh, they need to make a Bioshock movie. Bioshock. One movie, bro.
D
I want to watch the. The Animal Farm. You think they'll send me a screener before they come on the show? I'd like to know what I'm talking about.
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I don't know what the restrictions are for us. We, them.
D
I don't mind.
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The Tim cast company was provided a screener for the purposes of. Of doing an ad read. And I respect. I will say this. Like, I did a review of the film from the trailer. They said, hey, Tim, please watch the movie, and you'll see that you were incorrect. And then we'll have you do ads for it. I'm not upset that they were offering money and saying, we think you'll change your mind. But I absolutely did not change my mind. And I was. It was like, again, I turned it off after five minutes, and I was like, I'm not watching this. This is nuts. And then I was like, no, no, no, no. Like, I have to watch it. I have to. And then I watched it, and I was just rolling my eyes and scoffing the whole time. And my wife keeps looking at me because I'm watching on my phone. She's like, what? What? I'm like, oh, my God. And then it was funny because I was talking to my wife about it, and I was like, the villain is Elon Musk's mom. And she's like, I get it. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's Elon Musk's mom. And she's like, what does that mean? And I'm like, I am not making a joke. It is not an allegory or a metaphor. I am quite literally telling you the villain is Elon Musk's mom. And she's like, well, they can't do that. They'd get sued. So I pulled up a picture of Elon Musk's mom. I said, this is Elon Musk's mom. Then I pulled up the image from the trailer, and I said, this is the villain. And she went, how did they get away with that? Because we have to go to our lawyers for all of this stuff on all the merch we make. And I'm like, I don't know. She's driving a cyber truck, by the way.
D
Oh, Andy Serkis. Who?
A
He.
D
He was the story. He's Gollum. Yeah. Okay, so this is Gollum's movie.
B
I mean I, I think Andy Circus is a fantastic.
D
Awesome. He's exquisite as an actor. Yeah.
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Who did he play in? He's great. Marvel, the South African guy.
D
But they were just gonna have a voice and he was so good, they, they cast him in the entire movie. Lord of the Rings because he was so good physically. But that doesn't mean that he knows everything about communism and has.
B
He was always supposed to be gone. One time they had just had him
D
do voices and they were gonna animate something.
B
They had him do the thing.
D
So in it.
B
Well, he was doing the voice Claw. Yeah, yeah, he was Claw in the Marvel movies. And I. That was an amazing character. Arms smuggler. His arm chopped off by Ultron. I thought he did a fantastic job. Oh, he's great. I'm just.
E
Yeah, no, I didn't know that he
B
did the motion capture and talk like this.
E
Yeah.
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Stupid fat hobbits.
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Yeah.
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Wonderfully defend his work. A PhD student.
B
Look, the Harmon brothers were saying like they've issued a bunch of statements saying it's, it's an anti communist film. Let me show you this. Actually, let me show you this. This is from Newsweek from December Studio responds to criticism. Here's what Newsweek wrote. The adaptation, which took 14 years to complete, looks to examine capitalism and corporate greed as opposed to Soviet era authoritarianism. A spokesperson for angel Studios told Newsweek 4 facts. Angel is the distributor of the film, not its producer, nor with creative control. Angel Guild members viewed the film and voted heavily to support it. While the title is the same as the classic book, updates were made to make it relevant to a broad value centric, family friendly audience. This is an anti communism film and the Angel Guild will ensure that it stands by the principles of our members. It is. I, I would not. It's not for kids, man. Guys, like a family friendly film is Space Jam where the stakes are. You will be trapped in a video game forever unless you win a game of basketball. Woohoo. And then they're like oh no. And then you know, like what is it? Don Cheadle was a virus or something in the new one. I don't remember.
D
Good for him though.
B
But the stakes weren't massacre a bunch of corporate employees and you know, like kill people or anything like that, you know.
D
I keep the political propaganda away from little kids. Personally, I disagree.
E
Yeah, if it's anti communist.
B
Every, every. I think at 13, I think is the appropriate age for a child to watch the Patriot with Mel Gibson only Because of the blood, Lots of blood.
D
What about Terminator 2?
E
That's not really political, is it?
D
Well, like how old would a kid be if you were 13?
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Yeah, I think at 13 years old, like PG 13 makes sense, right?
D
Post puberty.
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Well, they're in that point where they're starting to understand like war, conflict.
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They're starting to be curious and ask questions.
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Yeah, I think too young, it can fry their brains and freak them out, you know. Yeah, but Mel Gibson's the patriot, you know, maybe 14 is the best age for it. Maybe 13 is a little young because the Patriots got straight up gore. Like when Mel Gibson just massacres all
D
those Red coats sons, like 13 and fights with the, with a rifle. So it'd be cool to show a 13 year old like what it used to be like.
B
Yup. In the colonial times, dude, when he massacres that whole battalion trying to take his son prisoner. Mel Gibson, dude, that movie is the best movie ever. He's got, he's got the top. What does he have? He has a tomahawk, I think.
D
Yeah.
B
And then he just, just wipes them all out. And then they've got one injured guy and then the bad guy is like, how many men did this? He's like, one, sir. And he's like, one man. Well, I'm like, yes. It's funny because, like, it's such obvious bs, this great American story of the one guy who just takes everybody out. But it's also so American that ego.
D
It's a superhero story.
B
It is American and, and it's like his son gets killed and so he seeks revenge and he rescues his kid. There's a famous story about a painting from a revolution where it goes something like. I'm probably bastardizing the story, historians probably know better, but it goes something like there was a painting made of a bunch of redcoats in formation firing on a bunch of rebel farmers during the Revolutionary War who were dropping their guns and fleeing. And so this, this painting was of an, of an actual battle that occurred. Well, someone asked to recommission the painting and said, I would like one for myself of this battle, but tone it down a little bit. And so the next version shows some of the militiamen, the Minutemen, fighting back. And then years later, someone says, I would like my own version of this. Well, the new one shows the Minutemen breaking ranks, but violently fighting back. As the Red Coats advance, someone asks for another commission. Now it shows the redcoats are a little frazzled and some are being shot. Long story short is after several iterations, it completely flipped to a small handful of valiant Minutemen firing on frantic and fleeing redcoats despite it never happening. Because every time it was made, the person who got a commission of this great battle wanted it showing the heroism of the Americans. So we've made this movie where we're like, Mel Gibson is a dad who doesn't want to go to war and votes against him. It. This is what I love, right? We always talk about the guy at the bar and there's some dude acting a fool and he says, listen, man, I don't want to be involved. And the guy goes, what are your. And then like pours a beer on him and then gets his ass kicked by the guy who wasn't asking for trouble. And we love that narrative.
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Classic Jackie Chan, bro.
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Yeah, right, Jackie Chan, yeah, just leave me alone. I don't want to fight. But then when they pick a fight, that's. Mel Gibson is like, I don't want to go to war with England. So he's at home, the British troops show up, he's tending aid, and then the guy's like, kill the prisoners. And he's like, you can't. And he's like, take his son. And he's like, no. And then his other son tries to save his brother and the guy shoots him, killing him. And then Mel Gibson is like, I didn't want this war. And then he grabs his guns and he's like, let's go. It's like the perfect American story, you know, the strongman didn't want to have to fight, but then he just kills everyone.
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Love to be a hero.
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Best movie ever. Greatest movie ever.
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Ready to watch it again, bro?
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Dude went through a wall. Now every 4th of July they put it on repeat on TV and I just watch it 80 times, non stoppable, just slamming wings.
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It might be Gibson's best role so far.
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I think.
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So the best movie's ever done too.
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Propaganda, though, that I'm like, way behind because we need some patriotism back in our views.
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Oh, okay, Good, good. You scared me for a second. Braveheart, the new Top Gun. Yeah, I didn't see it. I haven't seen Top Gun. Maverick was good, Braveheart was good. But he loses the story. The true story is that he gets betrayed and it's like, okay, he stood up for himself, that's fine. But the Patriot is fiction based off of a conglomerate. They took a bunch of different stories in the revolution and created one superhero. And then they created one ultimate evil British guy. And apparently after the film, like, the UK issued a statement saying, this is absurd. We never killed children and civilians. Oh, man. Yeah. I don't know. Like, you know, in the film they literally burned on a church with all the villagers trapped inside. I'm like, pretty sure. But it's such a good movie when Cornwallis is like, you're unbefitting of a gentleman. It's just like, you know, I love the scene where Mel Gibson win the meets with Cornwallis. And he's like, first thing I'd like to request. What did he say? A point of privilege or something. He's like, I'd like to request that you stop firing on my officers. And he says, so long as it is the policy of your officers to fire on women and children, I will instruct my men to shoot at officers on first sight. And he's like. And he's all pissed off at the Lord, what's his face. Who keeps Cornwallis. No, no, Cornwallis's man.
D
It's like his. His dog. His lap dog that's doing the fighting for him on the front line.
B
But then. Or something when, when Benjamin embarrasses him, he's like, I want you to put a stop to this, man. And he's like, I thought you, you know, you said you didn't want me to. And then he's like, if you do this, there's no going back to Britain for you. You will not be a gentleman. And he's like, we'll do it. And then he basically starts massacring people. Burns the church down.
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It's William Tavington.
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Tavington. Jason Isaacs, man.
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He's great.
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Such a real dark. I think it should be required viewing in all American schools. You said you don't want your kids to watch propaganda. No, it should be required freshman high school. That the first thing they do is watch the patriot. 100.
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Yep.
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High school.
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They should. They should.
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You know, here's what they do.
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They watch the Patriot and then they show them 9, 11. And then at the.
C
And they have to watch Band of Brothers.
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Every kid of brothers is the Most
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watched for 14 year olds.
D
Band of Brothers gotta watch Band.
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They gotta make a movie out of this rescue that Trump did.
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Yo.
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Yeah, 100.
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Yeah. Behind enemy lines too.
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Why are people not like, I need
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the Venezuelan movie first. I need that Maduro. Maduro getting caught and giving him the Nike tech fit with the.
B
Just. Just like a helicopter flies over and dudes drop down with weird looking guns like a. And all the guys are like 20 minute movie.
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Yeah.
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There's like An American General is like, fire the Discombobulator.
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Turn it up. They're not dancing hard enough.
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Made them all drop to their knees and go like, oh, they're not really dancing.
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But that's their pants.
B
The Discombobulator.
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Iconic, man.
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We need. We need.
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See, this is the thing. Like we need movies like this. I've heard people complain that. I mean, someone in the chat just said this, that Angel Studios is a Trojan horse. Because a lot of. Again, this is a comment. They said a lot of their films are actually anti conservative values.
D
They definitely aim it well. They aim at doing what is right. I mean, I think they have a good model where the crowd votes and pushes things through. So, you know, not everything falls on the dudes at the top. They don't probably don't watch every movie, which maybe they should.
B
But I love how like Newsweek in a fact article just says the adaptation is a critique of capitalism.
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Yeah.
D
I gotta say, we did bring up Band of Brothers. Have you seen Band of Brothers?
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Not. How long has it been? 20 years.
D
Oh, so you've seen it? Did you see it all?
B
I've seen most of these movies, but I could not remember.
D
It's a male power fantasy. Like it's. It's about the 101st Airborne diving into Germany.
C
Yeah.
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What year did it come out?
D
2003. Tom Hanks directed it and they also
C
did the one Spielberg.
D
Or maybe it was Spielberg.
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Be honest. Like, what's that?
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Hanks and Spielberg?
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Yeah, they worked on it together.
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I can't remember half the movies from 30 years ago. You know what I mean?
D
Freaking mind. If you get into military conflict movies like that, this is the one. It's probably the best. What's that? Platoon. Platoon short.
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It aired.
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It's like. Oh my God.
E
It aired on September 9, 2001.
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Wow. Oh, I have to watch it.
D
Probably not an accident.
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I mean, I don't imagine. I don't see how it's really.
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Wait, and they have the two series Brother.
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Oh, right.
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Japan.
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Yeah, yeah.
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The.
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The one that. They go into Japan too. That one's sick.
E
What do they call that?
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I vaguely remember it, man, but it's been so long.
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I know. It's still on hbo.
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Great cast.
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Launched so many guys careers.
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I went through like a Band of Brothers.
E
Yeah.
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Thing and then Sopranos again.
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Have you got. You guys. You guys have all seen 1917, right? That's what.
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Oh yeah. That's a movie's amazing, bro.
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Wow.
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I love that movie.
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Movie.
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It's a World War I movie all shot in one take. Yeah, it's not really one take, but it is almost one take.
E
Wow, it's so good.
B
Have you seen it? You saw it, right, Phil?
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No, I haven't.
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You got to see it.
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Okay.
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Have you seen him on the Western Front or something? I forgot that one on the.
B
No, that's the newer one, right?
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Yeah, yeah. Seventeen's great.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 1917. About the Pacific.
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No, no, no. They're in Europe. I think they're in France or something.
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Yeah, obviously the whole war took place in Europe.
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Yeah, yeah, but France specifically. And it's like a single shot following him through. In real. There's only one time jump. But because they were like, how do we make it night if it's all, like, shot for shot? Like, we need a night scene, I guess. So did you see the.
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The movie of those that Will Never Grow Old, I think is what it was called. It was, like, actual footage of World War I dudes climbing out of the trenches. And it was colorized. It was done by, like, Michael. What's his name? Mike. Mike Fahrenheit. 9, 9, 11. Guy.
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No, never grow old. No, those shall never grow. They shall not grow old.
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It's real footage from World War I.
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It's Peter Jackson.
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The Way People drop. Yeah. World War I from Lord of the Rings directed it. And it's just like, you know what's.
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You know what's really funny? We. Let's. Let's. Let's do one more story. Let's do one more story. I know we're cutting into super chats. We got to do this one. Check out this. We got this video right here. Ben Wurman, he says, how long until they make it illegal to post any videos before 1990? And we have this video right here. And it's just a policy known as racist Australia. It's just videos of, like, what year is this? The 60s or something before 1964.
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This makes me want to hang an American flag.
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So these videos keep going viral, showing America in, like, the 50s and 60s.
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Like.
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Like, everybody's white, but it's showing all of the best stuff. And I do think it's silly because bad stuff happened all the time, you know, like, at this point. But these people are obviously romanticizing the nicer areas and things like that. But I forgot, I. We pulled this up, and I guess I wanted to just talk about this, because you were. Ian was just before the segment talking about they shall never Grow Old. I think it's Called. Right, right. Yeah.
D
One more. One documentary.
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And the reason why I thought it'd be good to bring up this video that we had pulled up and like, talk about all these nostalgia videos. What is it called? The Christmas truce.
D
World War I. Yeah.
B
In World War I, on Christmas. Was it Christmas Eve? They all said, we're gonna stop fighting. And then they all hung out together. Football, I think.
D
Right.
B
They played football and they had tea and they, they laughed together. And they were like, well, I guess we gotta go back to killing each other again.
D
They didn't want to. They went back to their trenches. Like, I guess this means the war's done. But then the, the lieutenants came in and they're like, no. Orders came down. You're going over the top tomorrow. And they're like, we don't want to. And they're like, then we're going to shoot you in the back. You're going over the top tomorrow. All right, I guess we go back to fighting.
B
But. But at least that's how war used to be, you know, like, European war is like, it's Christmas, I guess we have to stop fighting. Enough crumpets. And they're like, all right, you know, like, war happened. And they said, okay, we got to go fighting again. But the truce is. It's amazing.
E
It's also. They were all the same religion.
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I was going to say a shared commonality of values.
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So even when they fight, they were like. But nowadays you can't even get a jury to be honest. It's all race based. Elections are all race based. Everything's just based on race.
E
I mean, that's, that's, that's legitimately a big part of the reason why videos like that are so popular now is because racial homogeny. Homogeny.
B
Homogenization.
E
Homogeneity.
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Homogeneity.
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Yeah, and words. Because the, the, the argument that people, like, aren't, like, don't have an affinity for their own race, like that.
B
That's all true for white people.
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There's no data behind it. None.
B
Yeah.
E
I mean, white people, but it's only a certain segment of white people too, you know? But I mean, even like you could hear Muhammad Ali making these arguments in the 60s, like, I don't have a problem with white people, but I'd rather be around people like me.
B
Well, so now what we see is the data shows that, like jury trials, for instance, black. Black juries will acquit black convicts extremely high rates. White juries tend to be race ambivalent. There's very little preference on race when it comes to juries, but every other race. And single out just black people, but every race has a pro race, like a racial preference for.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
So if. If the.
E
If.
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If there's a Latino juror and the guy on the stand is Latino, they're going to say not guilty.
E
Yeah.
B
And they just don't care. White people will say guilty or not guilty based on the merits. Every other race will choose their race. Even Asians.
A
Liberal white people hate their. They've been brainwashed. Their own kind. It's like they have no survival instincts. It's the most fascinating thing I've ever seen.
D
Yeah. I wonder, are they, like, shocked into behaving at, like, base values, at base level? Animal instinct. Confused.
E
What's your question?
D
The people that are voting based or like, saying, oh, you're my race, therefore innocent. Are they, like, shocked into behaving like, just kind of animalistic?
E
No, that's just. That's very human nature tribalism. Very, very What?
D
Some people override it, and then some people fall back into it.
E
The only people that really override it are white liberal liberals. Yep, that's it. Like every other race.
C
I just left Minneapolis, bro, And I covered the rights there for, like, two. Two weeks. So I was surrounded by white liberals all over Minneapolis. And one thing that I like to do as a reporter is I just like to act like an NPC and just talk to people because I want to know exactly how they feel and what's motivating them. And when I was talking to the white liberals in Minneapolis, like, they do view. When ICE does a arrest or an apprehension, like, they view that as, oh, a Nazi official is kidnapping my Somali brother. This is like a white person telling me that.
E
Yeah.
C
And they do feel like it. Like they have this, like, moral standing to have to get out there and interfere in operations or anything like that, because they feel like they're standing up for, like, their Somali brother or sister. Then when you go interview a Somalian, they're not even protesting. They're like, there's a huge disconnect there.
A
Savior complex, in and of itself is an acknowledgment that we have created something worth preserving, worth preserving. So in and of itself, it's hypocritical, which they don't understand.
E
Yeah, well, I don't know if they don't understand. I think they won't acknowledge it.
A
I think they don't understand it.
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I think that it's.
E
That you think that they're blind to it, really.
A
I do, yeah.
D
I would call it toxic compassion. It's like misplaced compassion, suicidal empathy. Yeah, it. It is. It does indicate that there's a similar desire, though, between whatever sides you think there are. People are both trying to preserve something.
B
Huh?
D
Like, you might say there's a left and a right, but both sides are trying to preserve what they think. That's not the American way.
B
The left typically does refers to progressivism, meaning they want to change the thing and conservatism wants to conserve the thing.
D
Yeah, but I think that not preserving
B
anything, one side is trying to destroy it, one side is trying to protect it.
D
In this instance, the leftist movement is like, hey, get your Nazi Gestapo out of my town. These are my brethren from a distance. We don't want totalitarian. Like, we want to preserve the American way, where you can start your own. And you're.
B
You are incorrect. They're saying open the borders and abolish the state and abolish profit.
D
They're saying change are people that are.
B
Yeah, but that's what the left. It means.
D
I mean, literally, the orchestrators probably aren't even American. You know, they're. They're NGOs and stuff.
B
No, no, like, left and right was a reference to the right that wanted to maintain the system in France or have a comparable system. The left wanted, like, more leftist economic policies. Leftists are defined by saying, burn the thing down, not preserve it. They're not preserving anything. They're saying, newcomers, bring in the newcomers, change everything.
D
No, it was a difference between don't deport my neighbor and bring in new people.
B
Right, because deporting illegal immigrants is change. Is. Is stopping their change from happening.
D
Okay. You know, you're not wrong. I'm just saying that I don't think that's the mindset of these people.
B
Literally, it is. They say it's.
C
Are you trying to say, Ian, like, the people in Minneapolis that they view is as. As. Like, this is our way of life. This is American life for us, and we're preserving that.
D
Yes.
B
What Ian's basically saying is that there are two groups and they crashed, and one guy says he got chocolate on my peanut butter, and the other guy says he got peanut butter my chocolate. But in reality, they both just made a delicious treat.
D
It does sound like that's.
B
Except what's actually happening is one guy's trying to destroy the other guy's chocolate.
D
Really high fructose corn syrup. See, we all have a common enemy. It's those corporatists.
B
Did you see. Have you seen the viral video? Of the guy with the Hershey's bar, and he's flopping it around. He's like, this is not chocolate.
A
Yes, I've seen that.
B
It's like, just flopping.
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Yeah. He warmed it up, and it's like, oh, we're being poisoned.
B
It's not chocolate.
A
It's gross.
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And then there was. You see the video of the ice cream? The guy put an ice cream sandwich on a plate, and then he came back, like, hours later. And it's. It's like there's drips and it's like.
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But it's still there.
B
Yeah. Because it's all gelatin and stuff.
A
Yeah.
B
It's like, not ice cream. My wife went to a great farmer's market and she bought sour cream. And she comes back with all this great stuff, and she's like, I got farmers market sour cream. And I grabbed it and looked at it, and it's got 15 ingredients. And I was like. I was like, wife, sour cream. She's like, oh, no.
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One job.
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Like, you go to. You go to any grocery store marketing. Got her Daisy. Sour cream. Daisy. You know, the ingredients aren't dark cream. Cultured cream. Yep. And they sell the market at the grocery store. You don't got to go to a special farmers market for it. But yeah, all the high fructose corn syrup garbage. Like, we should play that video. We'll do it in the after show where the guy makes modern bread. It's one of the best vids I've ever seen. He's like, I'm gonna make American bread. And then he's like, it's not what you think it is. And then he's like, all the weird chemicals he's mixing in is just so nasty. So nasty. Like, why would you want to eat that?
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It.
D
We should look at it.
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That bleaching flour.
D
Yeah.
B
And then adding vitamins, because flour is dead. Basically enrichment. I don't eat that trash. I can't eat it. I get. I get. I get sick when I eat bread. I stopped eating it years ago.
D
That's. If you want to preserve the American way of life. Don't eat that. Like, you got to preserve your diet so you don't eat all these. 1992 and beyond. AZO dyes and aspartame and high fructose corn syrup and what?
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Pfas.
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These pfas for forever plastics. I could go on, man.
B
I basically just eat a pint of sour cream every day. That's like, basically my diet.
D
Doing a lot of moon cheese. That's My fat.
B
Moon cheese.
D
Moon cheese is the ultimate.
B
Yeah, put sour cream on it.
D
Moon cheese of sour cream.
F
Yeah.
B
Today I had a. Oh, dude, they have this thing called tomb garlic dip. Tomb T o o m, bro.
E
Oh, you had.
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Give me money. Like, I will promote that. Like, nobody's business. Ingredients are like garlic and olive oil, and they literally just pulverized garlic, vinegar and olive oil together. And I will drink that stuff. I will. I will take spoonfuls of garlic paste and just eat it. It's so good.
D
I used to boil or, like, sour cream saute, huh?
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Oh, yeah. Mix it with sour cream. That'd make it a great dip.
D
So I would saute.
B
Oh, no, no, no.
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It's just pure health ingredients.
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I mean, sour cream is, like, the best thing ever. It's just pure fat. You know, you just, like, take a chip and just scoop, like, four tablespoons of sour cream. And just.
C
What do you do for protein, Ian?
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Butter.
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Sour cream's gotta eat a hunk of butter. When you complete it.
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Stick of butter, it's just like, infusion into the system. I'll do, like, cheese. And lately I'm doing pork. I'm trying to get away from a lot of stuff.
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Here's what you do. Here's what you do. Get a pan nice and hot, all right? Splash some olive oil on it. Get the oil all nice and situated all around it. Dump a whole bag of cheddar cheese on that pan and let it fry. And it won't stick. If you get hot just right, you can then easily flip the whole thing over, and you made yourself like, a fried cheese tortilla. And then what you do is you put sour cream in it and you
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eat it at night before you go to bed.
B
Well, I don't know about that.
D
If you're building muscle, you want your fats at night.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Let's talk about where you're getting this cheese, though. Because if you're just doing this shredded cheese from the grocery store, that's no bueno.
B
You know, sometimes. Sometimes it's like organic farm stuff. No good.
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Yeah, you gotta.
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No, you can.
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Shredded organic.
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You know, they got shredded organic good stuff with limited ingredients at the grocery store. You know, it's not all bad. That's why I'm saying, like, you know, my wife goes to the farmer's market and she finds sour cream. It's in this nice, like, tub with a picture of a little cartoon cow on it. She's like, it's gonna be great. And then when we come back, I Look, and I'm like, man, yeah. You know what really bothers me? You know, it really bothers me. I. When I am supreme Chancellor, there's a few things I'm gonna ban.
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Okay.
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First, of course, is cilantro. But everyone knows the next is gallon gum in heavy cream.
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Okay.
E
Any cream?
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Huh?
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Yeah. Yeah. So I like heavy cream for my coffee. Just a little boo, you know? But all of the heavy cream brands put gum in it to thicken it up. I don't want that. I just want regular old cream. And they put it in there because they think people like the texture of a thick cream better than runny cream. I guess at mom's organic shop, they've got real heavy cream ingredients, cream, and they're in, like, they're from a farm nearby or something. All I need. But that's really far from us. So if we go to, like, a regular groceries or, like, a food line, every single cream they have has gallon gum in it. And there are some hypotheses that the increase of gum in our products for thickening agents has resulted in this massive spike in colon cancer in millennials. Not surprising.
C
That's not so.
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Yeah, that Gillum gum is a polysaccharide produced through fermentation of carbohydrates by rubber. Bacteria ferments a carbohydrate into. So it's basically bacterial waste.
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That's probably what happens. You do those cleanses, and the weird stuff comes out.
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Do the cleanse.
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Gallon gum.
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No.
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No.
C
Okay.
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Zen Cleanse is the company. I'm actually in a.
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All right, all right, all right. We're gonna grab some rumble rants and super chats before Ian gross everybody out.
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So smash pictures.
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Smash the like button. Share the show. We're in the uncensored portion of the show. In a few minutes, we'll talk a little bit more about Animal Farm. No spoilers. No spoilers. But we'll also bring up that. I'll try and find that video of the guy making real bread of, like. Like, American factory bread. It's disgusting. All right, we got Pinochet says, and if the band you're in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.
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We were just playing some Pink Floyd before the show went up.
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Yeah, nobody caught the reference when I was said, you know, I said, oh, they came back from the moon. Well, there's no moments making up a dull day there. And everyone's like, huh?
E
Sarah would have got that. She loves Pink Floyd.
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Oh, yeah, they got some Hugely awesome songs, but I never really got into them.
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AK Storm says one of the Artemis crew named a crater after his late wife. The dude literally loved her to the moon and back and flexed on all other men. Best of luck topping that, boys. The things we do for teats. I will say this.
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I like that.
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Of all the conspiracy theories people have claimed about how we never went to the moon, I just don't believe any of them until today. Because this new moon mission can't possibly be real. There's a female astronaut.
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Yep.
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I made the joke before the show. Right. That's why no one cares. All right, and then why says I
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was like, I was just gonna pile on women for no reason.
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And then y says, if you are driving or riding a motorcycle and can't Skip, it takes four hours of YouTube ads to listen to a 20 minute segment. That's YouTube. It's all automatic, bro. YouTube did this thing where ads are basically automatic and you can't even place them anymore because it rejects ad placements. So I used to do an ad every 6 minutes and 30 seconds, and now YouTube automatically runs ads. They've announced this. YouTube isn't. That's. That's wild, because I believe you. A 20 minute segment. I don't know about 4 hours of ads, but YouTube announced that they were doing auto ads now. So that means. Right. If you're on a motorcycle and you can't hit a button, oh, 10 minute ads will play.
C
Yeah.
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And it's just like. Okay. And we can't do anything about that.
D
You can buy YouTube Red or whatever it is.
B
Yes, YouTube Premium. Or I will stress, we're available on Rumble.
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Rumble Premium. Honestly, you spend 13 bucks a month on the premium service of the website, and that's what they're making off ad revenue. So it kind of balances out.
B
I think the website is Timcast Premium. Is that what it is? Timcast. Oh, let me make sure I still have it. Right. Timcastpremium.com. yep. If you go to Timcast premium.com, you can sign up for Rumble Premium and you can use code TIM10. Timcast Premium should automatically load that code code. But use code TIM10 and you'll get ad free. Listening to everything we post. It'll be on Rumble. So, you know, that's always available. I mean, bro, you're commenting on Rumble. You know, it's all available on rumble and YouTube and indeed. All right, let's see. Mytho says, having worked for the government, I can attest it is far too incompetent. To have kept this Secret for almost 60 years, plus you would have had to have gotten the Soviets to play along. And that's. That's the greatest argument in my opinion. But the Soviets would absolutely be coming out being like, they lied and we can prove it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the anti American commentary claiming the moon stuff is fake is literally foreign influence to destroy. Like Americanism.
A
Yeah, because that's what it's rooted in. The whole argument. It's. People don't even understand that they're rooting against the success of America by saying Mythos says Tim.
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ICBMs were available for a decade before the mood landings. I will stress ICBMs worked by going into the stratosphere and then dropping warheads down. If they had a rocket that could go straight up and then come straight down, it would be. They would be unable to stop it. That's what they did to kill Khamenei. They launched a special kind of missile straight up, and then it goes right over the target and comes straight down so it can't be intercepted. So having a rocket that can go to the moon is a nightmare scenario. You will have nukes pointed at you every night and they know it. All right, what do we got here? Lava Bear says, I believe the UFO is actually a flying aircraft carrier, just like the one in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Proved me wrong. That proves it. And then Y says Ian Disco. Discombobulate me harder, Daddy Crossland.
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Right.
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I just need you to vibrate.
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Vibrate.
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I like that. That's a good. That's a good slogan for the Syndra weapon.
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Move me with your sound.
B
Yeah. You like that one?
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I like it.
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All right.
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Yeah. I'm excited.
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Yeah.
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I'm big in vibration. I'll just.
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Only. Only the truth that says Tim is a coward. When he actually has the opportunity to do what is right, he bends the knee, spoil the movie. Angel Studios deserves it. First and foremost. If I was a coward, I'd take the money and get paid and have thousands of dollars to buy pizza with and just lie to you and tell. Tell you the movie was good. Instead, I did probably the stupidest thing any host could do when they're in the business of running ads. I attacked, I criticized heavily, the Advertiser for trying to advertise with us. The end result could be companies saying, we don't want to advertise on Tim Pool's show because if it turns out he hates the product, he's going to attack us.
D
I don't think so. Because I thought. First thing I thought was, this is fucking honorable, man. This is a really honorable move because you truly believe it. And they want to come on and talk about it like it's good for everybody.
B
And I respect them. And we'll have that conversation.
A
The opportunity.
B
But let's be real. If you sold like a skin cream, you might be like, what if Tim Pool thinks the chemicals in it are bad? So instead of doing an ad, he attacks us. Let's just stay away from him. So it was. It was dangerous as a company. And I had people asking me, like, why don't you just call them instead of making a public statement. And I said, because people are already running ads for this. There are. There are conservatives doing ads for a pro communism film right now that is spitting in the face of one of the few anti communist, like, legacy pieces of culture that we have. And I've talked to people and they're like, they're telling me, like, well, I don't know. They bought ads and I just promoted the film. And I'm like, yeah, well, you should have watched it. You know, like, as soon as. As soon as they said, oh, they want you to do ads for Animal Farm, I'm like, what? No, like, we saw the trailer for that. And they're like, well, here's what they sent. You can watch the movie. And I was like, okay. And then I read it. I was like, well, fair point. I didn't actually watch the movie, just the trailer. So I'll. I'll watch it. Oh, my God. I'll just say that. Wow. All right, let's grab some more. Ramo says Bob Lazar filmed the craft outside the base and they fired him for it. They ruined his life after. Maybe watch his documentary.
D
Yeah, he drove some friends.
B
Yeah, I did watch.
D
And they watched.
B
It's on Netflix, right?
D
Was it?
A
Yeah, I don't know. I watched. I don't know.
D
I saw him on Rogan. I watched like a two hour.
A
I watched that.
D
That was fascinating.
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All right, let's see. Matt says, holy yap. Are we really getting distracted by aliens right now? No one's read about the great deception, apparently. Come on, Tim. Getting distracted by aliens? I. I'm suppose I can only tell you that everyone has already been distracted by aliens because it's a top trending story. The people want what the people want. I don't know what to tell you, man. Fisher Mason says my mom just passed. Sorry to hear it, man.
E
Sorry to hear it, man.
B
I need to fly back Home asap. Give, send, go. Hard trip home. Anything. Help. Please pray. Love you all. Bender says if chat GPT was a person, it would be Ian. I. I second that. GPT. Yeah. So the perfect.
D
So much intelligence.
B
That is the perfect explanation for Ian.
D
I just heard that.
B
I guess Chatgpt was a person.
D
No one's pumped 180 billion into me yet. Like, this is no return till.
B
I'll give you a really good example.
A
Slight tickle of woke in there too. Of course.
B
Of course. But, like, I want to give you one example about advocate. I'm going to give you guys an example of why it's so perfect to Compare Ian to ChatGPT. It's like imagine you would a chat GPT and said, explain to me the antichrist. And ChatGPT goes, well, antichrist could also mean being anti. Like, Christ. And so you're acting not like Christ was. That's what it means to be Antichrist. And you're like, what? That's a literal statement. Tell me about the literal Antichrist, the actual guy.
D
And I'm like, I'm. I shouldn't have that authority.
B
Indeed. My friends, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show@rumble.com Timcast IRL. You don't want to miss it. Follow me on X and Instagram. Timcast. Avery, do you want to shout anything out?
A
No, but I will say I did have some of your coffee, and it was really good, so I'll give you credit there.
B
Oh, thank you. Yeah. Which one did you have? Ian's Graphene Dream or Appalachian Nights?
A
Appalachian Nights. Yeah.
B
That one's my favorite.
A
Very good.
B
Ian's Graphene Dream is also a second
D
bestseller at the Appalachian Nights this evening as well.
B
Indeed. You want to shout anything out?
C
Yeah. Everyone, check me out on Ventura Report on X. Breaking a lot of news. We got a lot of good reporting. Heading back, back to the southern border, and one of your viewers told me that we need to make Send Tortas to the Moon merch. It looks like that's a hit, but yeah. Once again, thanks for having me on, Tim. Kind of fun to discuss all the news and the aliens and all the good stuff.
D
Like a torta. Riding a torta. Eating a torta.
C
To the moon.
D
To the moon and back.
C
Oh, yeah, yeah.
D
I want to get her cheese. I don't want to.
A
Visionary.
C
Ian, you got to come to la. I got to set you up on a blind date with a torta. You have a good time, good conversation.
D
Let's record it. Crazy.
C
Got to get you a thoa.
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Avery, people are going to follow you on x at avery day. It's d a y e one every day. Thanks for coming, guys. I'm at Ian Crossland. You find me at Ian Crossland on the Internet. Go to grapheme movie, Check out the new documentary I'm working on. And a show I just did with Roseanne Bar went live about two days ago on her YouTube channel.
E
Nice.
D
So go there. Check out me and Rosie hitting it off for a couple hours. She's a deep woman, so it's nice to listen. Real smart girl.
B
Sees the world like I see it,
D
with shapes and patterns. So it was fun. My mom watched. It was like I didn't understand what you guys were saying. Some of the time I'm like, it's like we got our own language.
B
That's about right.
D
Yep. So even my own family.
B
Right on.
D
Carter Banks. What's up, everyone? I'm Carter Banks.
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You can follow me everywhere at Carter
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Banks and everywhere else at Carter Banks.
B
Official thank you, Avery, for coming on. Thank you, Jorge, for coming on.
D
It's been great. Yeah, I can't wait for the after show.
E
Phil, I am Filleremains on Twix. If you want to check out some of the stuff I've been writing, you can check out my Patreon. It's patreon.com. phil remains. The band is all that remains. We're going on tour this month. We're gonna start out in Albany on the 29th. We're going out with Born of Osiris and Dead eyes. Tickets are available atall that remainsonline.com if you want to check out the band's music, it's you can check us out at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.
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We will see you all@rumble.com, timcast IRL. Thanks for hanging out.
Episode: THEY ARE REAL, Aliens Exist Says Congressman, Artemis II MAKES IT Around The Moon
Date: April 7, 2026
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Notable Guests: Avery Day (conservative commentator), Jorge Ventura (independent journalist), Ian Crossland (co-host), Phil Labonte (“All That Remains” frontman)
This episode dives into a whirlwind of trending stories at the intersection of politics, culture, and the unknown. Major themes include the successful return of NASA's Artemis II mission from the moon, surging disbelief in the moon landings, explosive claims from Congressman Tim Burchett that aliens and alien technology are real, a dramatic U.S. military rescue in Iran led by Trump, the podcast landscape’s anti-American drift, and media controversy around the new "Animal Farm" film.
The crew’s trademark tone is irreverent, skeptical, and at times conspiratorial. They oscillate between serious geopolitical analysis, speculation on government operations, and playful tangents on space mining and gold in the diet.
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A classic, sprawling Timcast episode: blending legitimate news, political critique, conspiratorial flights, and pop culture in equal measure. The Artemis II mission and alien revelations serve as framing for larger themes of distrust, cultural manipulation, and loss of American confidence—in institutions, media, and even basic historical achievements. On-screen, hosts leap between satire and sincerity, with Tim foregrounding media manipulation and integrity, insisting, “I’m not here to sell out the people.” The episode ends on a lighter note with health rants and nostalgia for American resilience past and present.