THEY FINALLY DID IT, Voter ID PASSES, Democrats LIVID w/ Jack Posobiec

Summary

Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL

Episode: "THEY FINALLY DID IT, Voter ID PASSES, Democrats LIVID w/ Jack Posobiec"

Date: February 12, 2026
Host: Tim Pool
Guests: Jack Posobiec, Tate Brown, Phil Labonte
Theme: The passage of the SAVE Act (Voter ID bill), media and cultural influence, AI technology, and American identity.

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Main Theme Overview

This episode centers on the controversial passage of the SAVE Act—a federal voter ID bill—and the surrounding political, cultural, and media discourse. The panel digs into Democrat opposition versus the broader American consensus on voter IDs, reflects on media manipulation during major cultural events like the Super Bowl, explores AI’s impact on content creation, and debates the transformation of American culture. The show features sharp, irreverent commentary in Timcast’s signature style.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. SAVE Act Passes House: Voter ID Controversy

[01:01–05:13]

• Tim Pool introduces the episode’s core topic: "The SAVE act has passed the House. This is the voter ID bill and strangely, every Democrat opposes it, despite the fact the polls show that around 70 to 80% of Democrats are in favor of voter ID."
• Discusses the disconnect between Democratic politicians and their voters, with Tim calling Democratic arguments (e.g., that voter ID bans women from voting) "the stupidest thing I ever heard" [01:31].
• Jokes about supposed barriers for women (e.g., name changes after marriage) are derided for their absurdity.
• Panel agrees the requirement for IDs in everyday life (from libraries to gas stations) highlights the inconsistency of opposing voter ID for elections.
• The international standard for voter ID is noted: “It's like 100 of them. Like, it is the most normal thing in the developed world to say, we've got to see an ID..." — Phil Labonte [12:13]

Notable Quote:
"When you walk in to do some of the most inconsequential things you can think of, they ask for your ID. ... And then they're like, would you like to have a say in who our government is going to blow up overseas? Yes. Don't need an ID for that."
— Tim Pool [09:31]

2. Democratic Arguments & Satire

[10:55–20:04]

• Discussion lampoons Democratic claims that voter ID is sexist/racist, with sarcastic suggestions to "agree aggressively" as a debate tactic.
• Discussion of “rapport, extreme, turn” as a persuasion method — agreeing to the opposing argument to an absurd degree to expose its flaws.
• Example: If Democrats argue that women can't navigate name changes, the panel mockingly suggests, “Maybe women shouldn't vote, if they can't figure it out," highlighting the logical inconsistency of the opposition’s talking points.

Notable Quote:
"You are so right. These maggots are trying to take women's right to vote away. Now you have rapport... then you offer them the extreme... then the turn."
— Tim Pool [19:10]

3. Race, Satire, and Media Double Standards

[14:21–16:44]

• Panel recounts viral memes/videos highlighting media double standards on race and technology stereotypes.
• Points out that "intent matters" in accusations of racism, referencing Trump’s meme controversy and the lack of outrage for self-deprecating humor by minorities.

Notable Quote:
"Not every depiction of a stereotype is racist. The intention matters."
— Tim Pool [15:16]

4. AI Disruption: Deepfakes, Content Generation, and the Future of Media

[23:02–52:13]

• Jack Posobiec and Tim explore the exponential growth of generative AI (voice cloning, deepfakes, instant video game creation), expressing concern over authenticity and economic impact on real creators.
• Discussion of real-world AI use-cases: Spanish-language translation of shows, fake Scott Adams podcast, and AI-generated gaming environments.
• Worry about AI flooding platforms like YouTube/X with cheap, automated content, diluting advertising revenue for original creators.
• Segment includes live demo and banter around AI-generated video games.

Notable Quote:
"You could get one of these agents ... and say, 'I need a 20 minute long video based on this script.' Show examples and articles. It will pull them. Like, we're there, bro." — Tim Pool [30:06]

5. Turning Point Super Bowl Halftime Show & Media Manipulation

[05:49–13:33, 54:10–63:51]

• Jack celebrates their alternative Super Bowl halftime show (“we still get 40, 50 million”) and details the mainstream industry’s efforts to suppress it (media smears, fake drop-out stories).
• He notes the historical record-level online viewership, industry resistance, and challenges in sponsoring/broadcasting the event versus the NFL’s globally-focused, “corporate” halftime featuring Bad Bunny.
• The panel deconstructs how “normie” audiences and underserved demographics craved an “all-American” product—contrasting it with the politicized, globalist messaging of Bad Bunny’s halftime performance.

Memorable Bit:
"The crowd's not dancing. ... You can't see anybody inside doing anything." — Tim Pool [56:32]
"It reminded me of the Velociraptors in Jurassic Park — you just see like the rustling of the tall grass." — Jack Posobiec [56:58]

6. Cultural Differences and American Identity

[68:43–96:29]

• Explores how American individualism vs. collectivist family structures shape attitudes toward welfare, senior care, and “rights.”
• Panel laughs at viral social media claims—e.g., “it’s so Latin to have kids sleep on chairs at weddings”—as universally human, not unique.
• The Team jokes about “virtue signaling” and “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” to capture American optimism and self-sufficiency.

Notable Quote:
"That's a very American way. ... I'm gonna pull myself up by my bootstraps ... that's changing. And again, you can argue if that's good or bad, but that is uniquely American." — Tate Brown [96:18]

7. Economic and Social Policy Critique

[97:19–101:32]

• The panel rails against socialism and communism, arguing that “a deficit population” (those who consume more than they produce) ultimately collapses society.
• Critiques the current U.S. “mixed economy,” noting that half of the population is essentially subsidized.

Notable Quote:
"We have built a country with a large deficit population — they don't produce as much as they consume." — Tim Pool [97:54]

8. Immigration & Legal Loopholes

[87:10–90:11]

• Discussion about an Irish national facing deportation after overstaying a visa waiver — panel agrees that rule of law should apply equally regardless of origin.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "It's the most normal thing in the developed world to say, we've got to see an ID to make sure that you are who you are and that you're eligible to vote."
  — Phil Labonte [12:13]

• "If voter ID is racist, then it's racist to ask someone for an ID ever."
  — Tim Pool [11:02]

• "Now you have rapport. ... Then you offer them the extreme."
  — Tim Pool [19:10]

• "If I want to fly in this country ... you need either a passport, which requires all sorts of identification to get, or one of the real IDs, which is also requiring birth certificates. ... My wife ... she figured it out."
  — Jack Posobiec [09:56]

• "We thought it would do well. I had no idea we'd have numbers like this."
  — Jack Posobiec on the TPUSA halftime show [06:14]

• "I'm just going to wear some leathers that I get off a deer. I'm gonna make some deer hide leathers. I'm gonna get a big walking stick and I'm gonna walk through the field. I'm just gone. No more of this technology."
  — Tim Pool, on AI [25:07]

• "The intention matters. ... Someone making a meme video where there's a bunch of Democrats on the faces of animals does not mean that Trump intentionally depicted the Obamas only as apes and then insulted them as if they were. That would be racist."
  — Tim Pool [15:16]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• SAVE Act / Voter ID: 01:01–05:13, 07:53–13:33
• Satirizing Dem Arguments: 10:55–20:04
• Race and Satire: 14:21–16:44
• AI Content/Deepfakes: 23:02–52:13
• TPUSA Halftime Show/Media: 05:49–13:33, 54:10–63:51
• American Values/Culture: 68:43–96:29
• Economics & Social Policy: 97:19–101:32

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Tone & Language

The entire conversation is animated, irreverent, and combative—deliberately skewering mainstream narratives and political opponents. The hosts and guests freely mix policy analysis with sarcasm, jokes, and personal stories, maintaining an informal but confrontational style characteristic of Timcast IRL.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a sweeping, tongue-in-cheek diagnosis of American political polarization and cultural upheaval, using the passage of the SAVE Act and a culture war over the Super Bowl as jumping-off points for bigger questions about technology, authenticity, and national identity—all filtered through the sharp, bantering lens of Tim Pool, Jack Posobiec, and friends.

Transcript

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[Tim Pool]

The SAVE act has passed the House. This is the voter ID bill and strangely, every Democrat opposes it, despite the fact the polls show that around 70 to 80% of Democrats are in favor of voter ID. And literally any sane rational person thinks if you're going to vote, you should have an ID to prove it. But for some reason, it's only the Republicans who really want this. Again, despite the fact that the voter base across the board agrees you need it. So I have a question for everybody. Feel free to comment and let me know what you think. Why do Democrats not want to have voter id? Well, the reason they're giving is that it would ban women from voting. Guys, you have already convinced me we need voter id. You don't need to sell me anymore. I'm kidding. But that's their argument. Democrats are arguing that this would block women from voting. If that were true, conservatives would vote twice as hard and they'd rally substantially more. I'm kidding again, calm down. It's not correct. It's a nonsense argument. They're saying because you need an ID to vote. This means women who are still using their maiden names but have legally changed it can't vote. And let me just tell you, it's the stupidest thing I ever heard. Anybody who's married. No, that's also very stupid. And yeah, whatever. So we're talking about that. Plus we got crazy news. Mexican cartel drone incursion near El Paso, shutting down the airport, some conflicting reporting where CBS is. I think it was CBS reporting that it was actually a balloon. But we've got still more reporting from credible sources that, no, this is a Mexican cartel drone. Incursion, shutting things down. So we're gonna talk about that. And then we've got Joe Rogan's reaction to the Epstein email files where he was invited to meet Epstein. One of his guests was trying to get him to meet Epstein and Rogan was like, what, are you nuts? And he, he's talking about it. So it's actually pretty interesting. We'll get into all that stuff. Before we do, my friends, we got a great sponsor for you. It is Cove Pure. You guys like clean drinking water, right? You don't want that gunk and that garbage in your water. The holidays are brutal. Desserts, late night skipped workouts. But now that we're in the new year, it's time to reset. Let's make a New Year's resolution. Actually give our bodies what they need. It's time to get some good water with Coke pure. Here's the thing. Everybody jumps into the new year. Buying new supplements, trying a new diet, workouts. They completely ignore the most important basic thing.

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[Jack Posobiec]

What's up, man? Good to be. Good to be back in the. Good to be back in the saddle here at Tim cast indeed.

[Tim Pool]

After that smashing halftime show you guys put on.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, glad to have you. Thank you. I mean, it was, you know, it was, it was something that was clearly inspired by Charlie. There's no question about it. And look, I may have had, you know, sort of the tweet that. That started the ball rolling on all this. Clearly team effort, Erica getting behind it and saying let's do this and taking a risk, taking a gamble, making a huge bet like that. And look, we knew it would be big. We had no idea it would be this big.

[Tim Pool]

Like 30 million at this point or more.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're looking all in with all of our partners beyond streaming, beyond YouTube, possibly 40, 50.

[Tim Pool]

Woo wee. So you know what's amazing about that is this means advertisers are going to take a look and it is insane that the NFL decided to create a market opportunity for competition on the Super Bowl. That's what's crazy about. We should. Let's save it for the show. Yeah, let's talk about. But amazing. Amazing.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thank you. No, it was, I mean, we, we thought it would. I thought it would do well. I had no idea we'd have numbers like this.

[Tim Pool]

Super cool. I was, I mean, either I was sitting. I was at MGM national harbor and.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And so I looked. It's A sport. It's a big sports book. Everybody is gambling, right? And I picked up my phone and I pulled it up and it was like 3.4 million concurrence right when it started. And I, I showed people. I was like, holy crap. We got to. I got.

[Jack Posobiec]

I got to say, I thought it was a glitch. I thought something was wrong. I was like, no, that can't be like that. There's an M. That should be like a K. What's yo.

[Tim Pool]

But let me tell you, like, there was an old Asian lady next to me and when Bad Bunny came out, she was like, what is this? And I thought it was funny. I'm like, bro, I had a Latino guy in front of me. I. I had two Asian ladies next to me. I had an old white guy. And they were. Everyone agreed, like, we don't know what Bad Bunny is. We're not paying attention. Right? But let's say, let's say Jack, thanks for hanging out. It's going to be fun. Tate Brown's holding it down.

[Tate Brown]

What is going on? Patriots tape. Brown, you're hold. You have like 40 million viewers. Canada has like what, 35 million people. The colonization is just very obvious. We just send a viewer over one.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just do this one for one.

[Tim Pool]

Tell everybody if they want to see the halftime. So they got to go to Canada and we out vote.

[Tate Brown]

It's over, everyone. Yeah, we just cast about vote and it's over.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, because everyone's welcome there. No one's illegal on stolen land.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, exactly. Trump can be installed as king. I think this makes sense. Quebec loose.

[Jack Posobiec]

But. But no, because Trump's. Remember Trump's mother was Scottish, which means that he can claim a right to the throne of Great Britain. And because Canada is a commonwealth country. Boom. King of Canada's already in charge.

[Tate Brown]

I love it. We're playing a long game.

[Jack Posobiec]

Long game. Beautiful long game.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Avanti. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[Tim Pool]

Here's a story from cnbc. The Save Act House advances Trump backed voter ID bill The Save America act, supported by President Donald Trump, would require proof of citizenship to register to vote and a photo ID at the ballot box. The legislation would make it harder to vote. Democrats and voting rights groups warn and has been the subject of a pressure campaign from the White House, congressional GOP hardliners and right wing influencers. I just can't. I can't even with this now that the bill has advanced out of the House, it has slim odds of passing in the Senate, where 60 votes are needed to overcome a filibuster. I am. Let me just say this. The Republicans need to just get rid of the filibuster. Just. Goodbye. And I also want to stress this. The fact that CNBC is putting in these caveats of, like, Democrats say it'll make it harder to vote. Yes. First of all, good. More importantly, shut up. It's voter id. Okay? When I go to a gas station to buy a 40, a King Cobra, they ask for my ID, okay. And that's the least consequential thing I might do am you drink a lot of King Cobra. All the time, bro. He's off like two right now. Oh, dude. Is that still around? They stopped, King.

[Jack Posobiec]

Don't look at me.

[Tim Pool]

When I was. When I was 18, that's all we would drink, dude.

[Phil Labonte]

Odyssey, king.

[Tim Pool]

And I'm 18. You're not supposed to drink. So I recommend against it. But it was. It was like A$40 for A40. It was guaranteed to get drunk on the weekends. In my day, they used to have.

[Tate Brown]

40S for a dollar. For a dollar 50, you get a 40. What are the birth rates?

[Jack Posobiec]

So the show is already off the rails.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Birth rate would skyrocket if we got the price.

[Tim Pool]

And it was like.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was like a price down to.

[Tim Pool]

40 jokes in my community, in my community, my neighborhood, with all my friends, because it was so dirt cheap. But we are like, bro, you could panhandle get drunk on a Friday night.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it was like, let's party. And like, you go to something like, I get a dollar for the bus. I'm gonna go buy King Cobra. You know, don't do that. Anyway, the point is, when you walk in to do some of the most inconsequential things you can think of, they ask for your id. In fact, some people get asked their id literally just walking down the street sometimes just nothing. And then they're like, would you like to have a say in how our. And who our government is going to blow up overseas? Yes. Don't need an ID for that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, you look at the documentation. So real id, Right. If you want to fly in this country, if you want to have right of mobility, to be able to fly on an airplane, you need either a passport, which requires all sorts of identification to get, or one of the real IDs, which is also requiring birth certificates. And by the way, if you got married, you have to show your. Your marriage certificate. Which this is crazy, by the way, because my wife, you know, you know, I tested this out. I married her. She changed her name to my name. Like, this was. This was all a big voter ID test. And then I was like, okay, were you able to figure out how to vote? She figured it out. Yeah, she totally figured it out. Somehow.

[Tim Pool]

That.

[Jack Posobiec]

So that's one figure. That's one. That's. We got one.

[Tate Brown]

Very impressed.

[Jack Posobiec]

You got one.

[Tate Brown]

It's crazy. You go to the library and you want to use the computer there. You got to have an id. Use the computer at a voting precinct. You don't need one. That makes zero sense. The homeless people going to the library to jerk off, they're like that. You need ID for that. I love you don't need one to what? Jerk off in a voting. I don't get it.

[Tim Pool]

There's a. It was a funny post on X. They were like, if. Who said this?

[Jack Posobiec]

If voter ID no gooning in the voting booth.

[Tate Brown]

This country.

[Tim Pool]

No, they do that. Stop it. If. If voter. If voter ID is racist. IDs are racist, right? If. If. If the idea is it's racist to ask someone for an ID to vote, then it's racist to ask someone for an ID ever. But you know what? The thing is, that's actually what they're trying to do, right? Look at the illegal. Illegal immigration issue. If I'm walking down the street, I'm going to be completely honest, and the Libertarians are gonna start screaming and banging on the floor. If I'm walking down the street and a cop comes up to me and says, excuse me, sir, you match your description. Do you have an ID on you? I'd be like, yeah, yeah, here you go. Is there something going on? That's all that happened.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, that was the whole thing with this doordash driver down in. In the Nancy Guthrie thing last night.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, he didn't give his id?

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no, he gave his id, but it was the description. So he matched the description. And they said that he had worked in Tucson. And I guess somebody had called in and said, oh, the eyes, because you could see the mask. And that was all it was. And they went to a judge and were able to get a search warrant for his house just based on that. Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

That's crazy. I. Look, I don't like the idea of, like, cops stopping everybody in, like, papers, please. But it's not that big a deal for a cop to be like, you know, we're just. We're looking for somebody of an id. Like, here you go. I'm not going to answer any questions. Appreciate it. Thanks. Have a nice day.

[Phil Labonte]

A list of how many?

[Tim Pool]

That's racist.

[Phil Labonte]

I saw a list of the countries that require an ID to vote. It's like 100 of them. Like, it is the most normal thing in the developed world to say, we've got to see an ID to make sure that you are who you are and that you're eligible to vote. The only reason to not. And everybody's been saying this, you know, ubiquitously on on X, but the only reason to not is.

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[Tim Pool]

Well, considering that even Democrat voters are like, we should have voter id, right? Everybody agrees with it. The Democrat politicians are like, no, you don't understand. We'll never win again. I mean, you don't understand.

[Tate Brown]

It's a wedge issue. Oh. Oh, I didn't. I didn't know.

[Tim Pool]

Did you? I just.

[Jack Posobiec]

Women.

[Phil Labonte]

Women.

[Jack Posobiec]

And wait, there was. There was a tick tock. Do you remember when Joe Biden said he had that line about, like, black people can't get online or something? They don't know how to use the Internet. He said this something as well.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then. And then. And then someone. There was. There was a black tick tocker, and he made this video.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, is that where he's bouncing?

[Jack Posobiec]

Where he's just, like, bouncing up and down, like, smashing his poke?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Was it Kathy? I thought it was like, there's kids in the Bronx that don't even know what a computer is.

[Tim Pool]

He's like. He's like, jumping around on, like.

[Jack Posobiec]

That was funny.

[Tate Brown]

Is that real?

[Tim Pool]

No. No. I thought.

[Jack Posobiec]

I thought it was. Because it sounds like something by Winston.

[Tim Pool]

To be fair, this is what pisses me off. A black.

[Jack Posobiec]

He's like.

[Tim Pool]

He's like a black man jumping up and down like he's a monkey smashing the computer. And that was like. There's nothing racist about doing that. He was criticizing their racism. Trump puts out this video where they put the faces of all these Democrats on animals from the Lion King.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was a Lion King.

[Tim Pool]

And then everyone's like, trump's a racist. And you know what pissed me off? Media Matters took my quote and ran with it as if I'm racist. I said, it's not racist. Not every depiction of a stereotype is racist. The intention matters. My point is, could you imagine if it's like, hey, guys, for lunch day at the office, I'm ordering a whole bunch of Buffalo wild wings, but not for the black employees, because that would be racist. Do you believe what Tim Pool did? He ordered a bunch of fried chicken and then he has black employees eating them. I'm like, yes, because everybody loves it. It's not racist. Okay? Someone making a meme video where there's a bunch of Democrats on the faces of animals does not mean that Trump intentionally depicted the Obamas only as apes and then insulted them as if they were. That would be racist. And this is. This is. This is the reality we get. So anyway, I bring that up only because we point out, as Kathy Hochul says, black people don't know use computers. A black person made a video of him pretending to be, like, a monkey confused by a computer. No outrage. Come on. Everyone thought it was funny.

[Tate Brown]

I could have been real. I don't know. Maybe he really had before we documented.

[Jack Posobiec]

It, but somehow he got on TikTok.

[Tim Pool]

So I just. Well, you know what I really love about this narrative? That women don't know how to vote is so true. You know, I think we should roll with it. I think we should just say to the Democrats, you know, you are right, women aren't that smart. Right. And that's a problem. Maybe they shouldn't vote then if the argument from Democrats is that women don't know how to change their names, which is like a standard thing every woman does when they get married.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, then every good woman.

[Tim Pool]

Every good woman. Oh, some hyphenate.

[Jack Posobiec]

Spice, Spice, spice.

[Tim Pool]

That's, that's the other point too. You don't have to change your name. So like this would be that women can't vote. No, because conservative women definitely want to vote and liberal men are changing their names so they can have a nice day.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. What if the women get hurt at the voting booth? I would hate if that happened.

[Tim Pool]

That's that, you know, that's a really great point. They might, they might prick themselves in the pen and get an infection and then it's amputation and then gangrene. You know, we should just make sure that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's the funniest thing.

[Tim Pool]

Or the voting booth.

[Jack Posobiec]

The funniest thing about this too though is that when you look at, when you look at actual demographics in, in just any post election poll, any exit poll, you're going to see married women typically tend to vote more Republican to be to begin with.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. That's correlation, not causation.

[Jack Posobiec]

Perhaps.

[Tim Pool]

But conservative women are more likely to get married.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, because they're more like. Of course, of course. But my point being is, so if, if married women were to the, it was to the detriment for voter id, then conservatives actually thought that was a problem, then wouldn't we be the ones shooting ourselves in the foot if we're for voter id? Like wouldn't it benefit the liberals to have voter ID then? Because it would, it would disproportionately affect conserv women.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, right.

[Phil Labonte]

Arguably.

[Jack Posobiec]

But they don't. But they don't. But it's like you guys, your own argument, even within your own frame doesn't make any sense because it would benefit you. But that's for some reason this were true.

[Tim Pool]

That's why I'm saying we got to roll with it. So if you ever debate a liberal, like I'd love to see, you know, like Michael Knowles debate Harry Sisson again and he can say, you know what, Harry, I agree. Women aren't smart enough to figure out how to vote. So you know, maybe we should consider that. Can you say that for everyone publicly that men can't figure this out? Say it.

[Tate Brown]

Right, right.

[Tim Pool]

And Then he's gonna be like, well, of course they can fit. Oh, so there's no problem with voter ID then.

[Jack Posobiec]

So Scott Adams used to talk about this and, and you know, I don't know if you've seen the whole controversy with AI Scott Adams. It's like this whole it's huge back and forth thing.

[Tim Pool]

What is it?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, let me say the first part for that where he used to say that the way, the way you can defeat bad arguments is through like aggressive agreement with them. Yeah, just aggressively agree with everything and then push it as far as possible.

[Tim Pool]

That that's a standard tactic called rapport. Extreme turn.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So we've explained it on the show 101. Here's a lesson for you guys. Whenever you're trying to persuade someone and Scott Adams was a master of this stuff, of course you can't approach them as an enemy. You have to approach them as a friend. So that's the first step is rapport. So when someone approaches you with a statement, you agree with it. They say the save act is sexist. It's going to disproportionately affect women.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're right.

[Tim Pool]

Your response is, you are so right. These maggots are trying to take women's right to vote away. Now you have rapport. They this lowers their defenses and they say, oh, okay, this person's a liberal. They're like me. You then offer them the extreme, which is, you know, women just aren't smart. Their IQs are lower than men's. Men are smarter. And the Republicans, they're trying to take away women's right to vote because they know women are just generally not that intelligent relative to men. Of course liberal can't agree with that. So now you've entered their arguments on their side and then made a point in their argument. They cannot agree with creating an extreme. Then when they say, well, I don't know about all that, you give them what's called the turn, which is a solution in your direction where you say, okay, well I guess you're right. I mean women are smart enough to figure out how to vote even with an id. I agree. So once again you're agreeing with them, but you've inverted their point by pushing them too far.

[Phil Labonte]

So good.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, that was, we had this back in, I want to say it was 2020 or 2021 when, when you know, like peak woke era. My church at one point, for whatever crazy reason had put out this, this email and they were saying, oh, we're going to be setting up like A racism council at, at the church. And I was like, I was like, it was like a racial justice. It was like a racial justice.

[Tate Brown]

We're going to be more racist. And so put a council together.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so. And I remember that I was like, talking to my buddy and I was like, is there like a. Is there like a racial problem at the church, like, or. No, it's all white people, not city. And we are not. We are certainly not. And you know, like, are we not sitting close enough together? But then I was like, I was like, I was. At the same time, I was like, you know what? The best thing we do here is like. So I volunteered to lead it. I want to lead the race. And I was like, this is going to be great. I'm going to create all these rules and like strictly enforce them. That, that if you're. If you're like a white family and you're not sitting close enough to a family of color, like, there's going to be a problem. You know, I know how to come out with like a, like a yardstick and be like, oh, this is not close enough.

[Tim Pool]

You miss an opportunity, the further are you. The further you are away, the more you have to tithe.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's right, that's right. That's right. Yeah, there's going to be monetary penalties. They're going to be also. And. And it ended up not going, you know, that far. And then they just kind of stopped talking about it. But I was like, I kept telling them, I want to. I wanted to volunteer to run it.

[Tate Brown]

And yeah, I want to be the head of the racism council. Council.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes.

[Tate Brown]

I want to be involved.

[Jack Posobiec]

I want to be.

[Tim Pool]

I'm just happy to be involved. Hold on. To be completely honest, anti racism and pro racism are very much the same thing. They're very much explained in a different way.

[Phil Labonte]

Right.

[Tim Pool]

So when the left is like, this was the. The woke versus racist comedy that Ryan Long and Danny Polishuk did, basically you have the woke person say, we have a problem with racism in this, you know, in this church, so we need to give black people their own private space away from white people. And then the pro racist guy says, you know, you're right. Yep, completely agree with you.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. Literally, like when they're doing the dorms, they were like making the black only dorms a few years ago.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And then like a section. It's like, that's so pretty good idea.

[Phil Labonte]

It's kind of crazy.

[Tate Brown]

Dorm. Is that a possibility?

[Phil Labonte]

It's kind of. It's kind of crazy. That they're discovering racism from first principles. Right, Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

Did you see that there's like hundreds of thousands of fake degrees being given out in India?

[Jack Posobiec]

I saw that.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, God.

[Tim Pool]

Basically what's happened. And maybe we should pull this up in a bit. But there's fake degrees being given out and then these, these Indians will apply for high level visas to the United States with a fake degree. Dude. So we're bringing in people who are doctors and they're not doctors.

[Phil Labonte]

Is it. Is India the scam capital of the world nowadays up there?

[Tim Pool]

You know, there's a saying in hacker culture, if you're not cheating, you're not trying. And I'm just going to refer to them as a hacker culture.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, they're just, they're tracking the system.

[Tate Brown]

Well, he is overperforming. That's the issue.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, to throw it, to throw it out, because I did mention it. So this, the controversy right now over AI Scott Adams and, and the estate is, is totally against it. They've asked them to stop. However, this, we don't know exactly who it is. There's, there's this AI Scott Adams show which has been running and people were, you know, I shared it once because.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, they're like making videos of him or something.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, it's like they're keeping the show going. And he had said number of times that he had wanted his, you know, his likeness to be used publicly. And he said, and he said a couple of times, like many times over the years, that I want to be the first AI entity that goes on in perpetuity. And so someone actually took him up on it. However, towards the end, when he knew his health was fading, he did also come out and say, I know, I'm not sure if I want to do this anymore because I don't know if AI is ready for it. And so he said, you know, maybe we just do something where it's like a Scott Jr. A son of Scott, but it's not actually me. And so there's this huge controversy over it because the estate has asked him to stop. But the guy is going to those other, you know, permissions when he gave them on air and saying, well, look, he, he said this so many times. And so what they're.

[Tim Pool]

What's crazy though, is it on X or something?

[Jack Posobiec]

It's, yeah, if you just AI Scott Adams on X and no spaces or anything. And what's crazy though, is the guy has the AI Scott Adams debating whether or not he should exist.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, gosh.

[Jack Posobiec]

And like, oh, is this it?

[Phil Labonte]

Right here.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And if you. And it's, I mean it, it's very realistic. It's very, very realistic.

[Tate Brown]

Dazzling coalition of sharp eyed skeptics and dawn patrolling idea warriors. Welcome to the radiant hub of ruthless clarity. The prime locale where incisive logic, Steven Joe. And a healthy skepticism for the absurd come together like a well orchestrated conspiracy.

[Jack Posobiec]

And if you want to rev this.

[Tate Brown]

Right up until your razor tuned synapses.

[Tim Pool]

Bro, I'm, I'm over it. I'm done. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm getting my chickens. I'm gonna get, I'm just going to wear some leathers that I get off a deer. I'm gonna make some deer hide leathers. I'm gonna get a big walking stick and I'm gonna walk through the field. I'm just gone. No more of this technology has gone too far and you know, goodbye.

[Tate Brown]

You're had this a lot earlier. Do you remember it was like literally six or seven years ago at this point where someone perfectly modulated Jordan Peterson's voice.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And yeah. Well, he came out and he was like, oh, this is unacceptable. Please take this down. This is terrifying. That's kind of crazy.

[Tim Pool]

I remember that we on this show there was a, an AI voice, a voice replicator of Joe Rogan. The first time this was ever done, it was a university that released this model where you could type something in and make Joe Rogan say it. And then I think they disabled it right away because they were like, okay, this is bad. And then a bunch of companies came out using that model and now you can literally clone anybody.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

I will say this. These weird. For whatever reason, they have a hard time cloning my voice and cadence. I don't know why it never sounds like me, but Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Donald Trump, Ben Shapiro, it nails these voices.

[Tate Brown]

Well, it was, it was 11 labs was the big one. And then I think they just kept getting sued so they took away the ability. You have to like verify that it's your voice. If you can do like, if you can do a killer like Jordan Peterson, you can verify with your imitation and still keep the voice. Don't ask coin.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I actually know that because, well, because I, I was using 11 labs for some projects both before and after that that thing came out and so I was, I was just messing around with it and I think we did like, we, we did a Charlie Kirk one and I just had. And it's obviously before, you know, everything happened and you know, I Just had Charlie saying, like, funny stuff and then I was sending it to him to just mess with him.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

But we were just doing as a proof of concept, and he. And he thought it was hilarious. He's like, when did I say that? I never said that. And. But then we explained it to him. He's like, this is really cool. And he was. He was super into it.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And he was like. He was like, we can do. He's like, this could be a time maximizer. Like, I could type something, it could record it. You know, like, whatever, guys. But I didn't have to verify.

[Tate Brown]

It was all these things we were supposed to be doing with AI that were going to unlock so much productivity. But we met, me and my friends got our hands on 11 labs. We were just threatening each other with Ben Shapiro. Hypothetically speaking, if I were to kill you right now.

[Jack Posobiec]

Have you seen. You've seen all the. The. David Attenborough is the.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, you can go to. You can go to YouTube and watch all kinds of videos. Like, there's a bunch of videos that are just talking about, like, space or physics or whatever. It's David Attenborough.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Voices.

[Tate Brown]

There's the one where it explains memes with David Attenborough.

[Tim Pool]

But here. Here's my problem with it, that it can't replicate my speech patterns, cadence, or sound of my voice. Because if it could, I could just have Tate do everything for me forever and I could just leave with my chickens and he could literally just go on Grok and be like, write a Tim Pool script. Then you can upload it to 11 labs and click send. And then it would just be a video of me every morning.

[Tate Brown]

We should be doing a Korean language model. Not only that, with English phonetic sounding words.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, and that's been around forever too. Where you can. We've done this, actually. We took one of my morning segments and converted it into all these different languages. You don't have. Here's the thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

I have that for YouTube.

[Tim Pool]

Does it already.

[Phil Labonte]

You don't have to do any of that.

[Tim Pool]

YouTube does it already.

[Phil Labonte]

You can have a Mobot, the AI agents. You can have one do that all for you every day.

[Tim Pool]

Just tell it.

[Phil Labonte]

Hey, this is. This is what I want you to do. Give it the passwords toward the YouTube channel and it'll go ahead.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I have that for my show now. So we. We have an espanol, like Real America's Voice Espanol. So my show comes out in Spanish.

[Tim Pool]

Every day, but YouTube does it automatically. That's the thing. So we were actually looking at AI services because we were like, hey, if we do, you know, Tim Cast Spanish, Tim Cast French or whatever. It might not be a ton of viewership, but viewers are viewers. And then we actually got some samples because they're automated services. You just upload and press go and it's done. And it's. My mouth is moving in Spanish. I'm like, oh, mi amigos. And then we decided not to do it because YouTube automatically integrated AI so.

[Jack Posobiec]

They can just click it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Apparently now, like YouTube has integrated language stuff.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, we. The one. The one other one. And of course he said no. But when. When Bannon went to jail in 2024, we pointed out that we could create an AI Bannon to do War Room while he was adamantly opposed. I mean, he hates AI. He's like, it's all. It's all the Antichrist. He doesn't want it at all. It's all demonic. He's. He's actually. I believe if I were correctly, all AI, even Suno is banned from War Room. He will not allow anything.

[Tim Pool]

You know what I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna launch Tim Cast AI as a channel and just see if it works. I'm gonna buy a look, you know, your choice. You want to listen to it or not?

[Tate Brown]

Two hours of just AI irl.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I told Chad GPT so I don't write scripts.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then it gets better views.

[Tim Pool]

And then what you do is you use a video generator and you just say, I gotta be honest. You could get one of these agents like Phil's talking about and say, I need a 20 minute long video based on this script. Show examples and articles. It will pull them. It will do it for you. Like, we're there, bro. It's. It's.

[Jack Posobiec]

Now.

[Tim Pool]

We were screwing around with Project Genie earlier and we made the Ice Agent Minneapolis video game.

[Tate Brown]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

We. We literally. You can't beat the protests or anything like that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tim tried to give him a sword.

[Tim Pool]

I did a wooden sword, a Bokken, a bokeh Bokan. And it didn't work. It did not give. I wanted the ice Agent to run around because it's just wood. Those aren't familiar. A Bokken is a long wooden katana like instrument. They use them in Anaheim on horseback. Not. Not in Anaheim.

[Tate Brown]

Going on in Anaheim.

[Tim Pool]

So I was down there for a protest like 10 years ago and there are cops on horseback with Bokken and they're riding around and they're wielding swords. They're wooden, though. You know, so they hurt, but okay.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, like how much do they hurt him?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I didn't get hit by one, but I did see. No, I'm kidding. So I asked Chet GPT. I don't write scripts. I just talk, right? I said, write a script about AI advancement in the style of Tim Pool. And it didn't really get it right because it started with, all right, so here's what's happening. I never do that. I always just press record and I go. Over the last few years, artificial intelligence has improved. It's accelerated. And I don't mean marginal upgrades. I mean exponential shifts in capability. Systems that once struggled to complete basic sentences are now writing code, generating realistic video, analyzing legal documents, diagnosing medical images, and operating autonomous systems in real time. In the early 2000s, AI models were mostly reactive tools. You give them a prompt, they produce text. That was it. Now we're seeing multimodal systems models that can unders. This is crazy. I don't need. I could. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna go in 11 labs, I'm gonna be like, I'm Tim Pool. Here's my voice, hit me. And then I'm going to take this and I'm going to be like, write a 20 minute long script. And then I'm good. Here's, here's the issue. There are channels already doing this. They, they'll generate 40 minute long news reports, they'll take like 10 news articles, load them into an AI and say, convert these stories into a single news podcast. Then they'll do one of these fake person generators and they'll get like a young looking woman and she'll just be sitting there and it looks like she's in a bedroom and she'll be saying like, hey guys. So recently Mexico announced that they were going to resist any effort from the Trump administration. And then they uploaded these, these videos get like 800 views. That's nothing. But they're uploading tens of thousands of them per week and they're getting an estimated. Like there was one video analysis I saw someone posted the back end on their channel is 150k. And they did because they were trying to market their service, saying, I can teach you how to make this money off YouTube. The problem is just like with X, it means all of the YouTubers revenue is dropping dramatically. This is going to result in a world where only Ubiquiti sponsors are going to make money. So let me explain. So for us, for me, for us on Timcast, irl. A large portion of the money we make comes from programmatic advertising. This is an advertiser goes on, goes on Google Ads, says, I want to run an ad. Google then says, let's put this ad on a series of videos. If these people are spam blasting massive amounts of videos, the ad, the ad dollars going into Google will always be around the same amount. Probably grows a little bit as the market's shifting. But with this exponential increase in AI content, the share is being spread out. So where we used to make X amount of dollars, we're now going to make X minus 20% because the, the share is being divvied up.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it's like instead of, Instead of making 200 a spot, you make $1, 200 times.

[Tim Pool]

Well, no, no, no. My point is they are. If I make a video that gets 250,000 views, it'll probably get about 1500-2000 dollars. Now that the way it used to be was that would probably be $5,000. But because there's so much competition, an advertiser's video is going to appear on 10 times more videos. The share of money in the pool to go out is diminished right on X. They had this problem when X first launched payments. We were swimming in dough. It was amazing. I had one period where I got like 13 grand in two weeks.

[Tate Brown]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Just for me. Tweeting stupid things.

[Jack Posobiec]

You don't tweet a lot.

[Tim Pool]

I don't tweet a lot and sometimes I tweet stupid things. And then what happened?

[Jack Posobiec]

Not just sometimes.

[Tim Pool]

Indians got on X, created a bunch of accounts, paid for verification, and then started mass replying to each other. They would say, good day, good day, good day. How are you? I'm good, and you? I'm fine. And the replies are what generates revenue. All of a sudden people noticed their payments were dropping dramatically. People then found this network, complained to X and said these are fake accounts, not making real content or engagement, and they're pulling money out of the pool for actual creators. Act said, okay, we're going to fix this. The problem we have right now, YouTube needs to ban AI generated content like this. There are places where it's good. Like there's that YouTube channel, shout out to SkyBrowse, who made that Elon Musk song. That's great work. He used AI video and AI music to make a great music video and that's good and he deserves to get paid for that. But taking news articles, AI generating a 40 minute news podcast and then spam blasting them on X, that should be banned, gotta be banned.

[Jack Posobiec]

And one of the other things that I've said I've thought of as well, and I've tweeted this a few times, is, look, X is a global site, of course, but not all companies are global. And obviously consumers are not global. Right? Customers are not global. Customers are a physical person who lives in a physical place. So wouldn't it make sense then that if you're an advertiser, if you're trying to target a certain market, you're not trying, and you, you don't want your ad going to different countries, you could choose obviously where you want your ad to run. But then also, also that if your traffic is from another country, then shouldn't the advertisers advertising go out at the rate of, you know, the market rate in that country versus your own country?

[Tim Pool]

I want to pull up this video. My friends, have you seen the new movie Brad Pitt?

[Jack Posobiec]

I just watched this the other day. It was so good.

[Tim Pool]

It's so good. It's about Brad Pitt. He's friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Here's the. Here's the movie. You killed Jeffrey Epstein, you animal.

[Jack Posobiec]

He was a good man. He knew too much about our Russian operations. He had to die. And now you die too.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, Brad Pitt is not friends with Epstein, as far as I know. But this is nuts. This video is absolutely crazy. I mean, I'm gonna play it again.

[Jack Posobiec]

What's even crazier about it is that the script doesn't make any sense.

[Tim Pool]

Like the city's destroyed or whatever.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like the Russia up. Like, like, why would that be? I mean, you could write a little better than this.

[Tate Brown]

I noticed Tom Cruise's height is oscillating at Sometimes he's, how did they make? And sometimes.

[Jack Posobiec]

But that's also accurate because it does the same thing in real movies.

[Tim Pool]

Have you seen the video of the old Indian guy? The old bald Indian guy saying, my wife thinks I'm a successful businessman, but I actually use AI to make an only fan with 1.3 million. And it's. He's in a suit and he's going like this. And then it shows the AI rendered video of a young girl in a skirt dancing.

[Tate Brown]

That's beast.

[Tim Pool]

It's not a filter. It's called replacement AI. Yeah, so here's the crazy thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

You even need that filter anymore. Like, I feel like you can at this point probably just type in a prompt and get whatever you want it.

[Tim Pool]

There's a rendering time involved. It doesn't. So I made a video. Okay. So did you see the video of the guy in his car screaming?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So I took that, and then I took a picture of Adam Johnson, the lectern guy, and I made him doing it. And it was hilarious. I didn't post it. I just thought it was funny. But again, for all you know, that, you know, these young Gen Z guys those girls are gooning to are guys, right?

[Jack Posobiec]

That's dude, man.

[Tim Pool]

That's a dude.

[Tate Brown]

What if my girlfriend is actually an old Indian guy?

[Tim Pool]

Here's. We got to show this one. We got to show this one, guys.

[Jack Posobiec]

But this one's not AI.

[Tim Pool]

Hold on.

[Jack Posobiec]

I thought we were talking about AI. Oh, yeah, I remember when this happened.

[Tim Pool]

See, but here's the important thing about this. People are not going to know what's real. Someone so, okay, 20 years from now, some little kid's gonna be like, this never happened. Shredder is in the house. Go to sleep. Go to sleep.

[Jack Posobiec]

Look at this bag.

[Tate Brown]

Ladies and gentlemen.

[Tim Pool]

Brace yourselves.

[Phil Labonte]

Again.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is not AI. I remember 12-14-91. I was watching.

[Tim Pool]

Here, look at this. Look at this. Premium Live Event. Championship Press conference. Like it's getting text, right? The crazy thing is, again, what happens in 20 years?

[Jack Posobiec]

That's actually incorrect though, because they were not called Premium live events in the 90s. They were called pay per views.

[Tim Pool]

Well, but, but sure, but, but the point is.

[Jack Posobiec]

But that's.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There's going to be a kid who's born five years from now. Now he's going to be 15 years, 15 years old, and he's going to see this video. And it's not just this one video. There's going to be millions of them. He's going to be like, I don't know which of these is real. There's going to be no history anymore. They're going to be like the Ninja Turtles. Weren't they from the 90s? Yes, but they never did WWF. Well, bro, I got a video of it. So it's literally the kid being like, nothing is real. Everything's fake.

[Jack Posobiec]

What? Tim, what if. What if they're not rendering things from. From AI? What if they're actually just going into different versions of alternate past. Alternate pasts and bringing the videos?

[Tim Pool]

Well, what I said was, how would you know if energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed, then when we imagine in our minds a story we are not imagining, we're actually seeing into an alternate reality. The energy already exists. We can't create it. The patterns of those systems already exist. So this Goku versus Monkey D Luffy. Actually happened in some alternate reality with his mushy fist. Here's the crazy thing. Let me. Let me. Let me pull up something else.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's that one seed dance, right?

[Tim Pool]

Check this out, guys. This is Google Genie, okay? I typed in downtown Minneapolis in winter during a protest, and the character is an ICE agent wielding a Bokken. We already did make one version of this. Let's just try it again and see what happens. Google Genie is a third person video game generator. You're allowed to play it for about 60 seconds, but you can only jump. You can walk, run, or jump. I will tell you this. The capabilities they have behind the scenes are probably a thousand fold. Google probably can already behind the scenes render GTA 6. They can probably literally go into it and just say, make GTA 6. Look at this. Let's go.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then is this. Do you have, like, the paid version or is this just.

[Tim Pool]

It's only. It's only for the highest tier of people who pay. Okay, abolish ice.

[Jack Posobiec]

But even still. And this is. This is the worst.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, he got the sign stuck to him. He stole his sign.

[Jack Posobiec]

Thief.

[Tate Brown]

And the guy just vanished. He thanos snapped away the protesters.

[Jack Posobiec]

Let me think about it, though. Think about the amount of people and time it would take just a couple years ago to make something like this.

[Tim Pool]

All right, we're gonna. We're gonna do this in real time. What should we make?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know.

[Jack Posobiec]

Make.

[Tim Pool]

Robocop consider copyright infringement. Oh, yeah, RoboCop might work, but from. Okay, where? Okay, Robocop fighting.

[Jack Posobiec]

We need. Wait. We need. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Tate Brown]

I want.

[Jack Posobiec]

I want it at the Super Bowl.

[Tim Pool]

That's probably gonna get copyright infringement blocked.

[Jack Posobiec]

At a football game.

[Tim Pool]

We. I just did Jurassic park character. RoboCop. Not the weird thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jurassic park isn't copyright.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, that's what I say. The weird thing is some. Some. Some things are blocked and some aren't. I put Goku in. In Springfield.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And he was running around in Bart Simpson. Here we go. Look at this.

[Tate Brown]

Look at that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tim Pool]

How long did that take it? 10 seconds.

[Jack Posobiec]

I blinked.

[Tim Pool]

Digital. 10 seconds to run to the world. It might. It might still kick us back. We're halfway there.

[Jack Posobiec]

It might say, I want him fighting cyborg dinosaurs too, by the way.

[Phil Labonte]

You could do this.

[Tate Brown]

You need RoboCop.

[Jack Posobiec]

Robo Dinos.

[Tim Pool]

Look at this.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tim Pool]

Can you jump? Look at that.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

Look at this.

[Tim Pool]

Dude.

[Jack Posobiec]

There's the gun.

[Tate Brown]

Wow.

[Phil Labonte]

RoboCop and drink RoboCop.

[Jack Posobiec]

Can you go through the gate of course.

[Tate Brown]

RoboCop. Deporting illegals. That'd be good. We could use them. Honestly, Robov.

[Tim Pool]

So they give you 60 seconds in whatever rendered world you get, and then you can save the video of the gameplay. Now, I can tell you this. They could if they wanted to, give us the ability to add fighting and a whole bunch of other mechanisms. The reason I know is because not only can you make a game where you're robocop, you can also make driving games. You can make flying games. And I. I rendered Planet Namek with the character Goku. That's from Dragon Ball Z. And I had Goku running around, and he jumped. I then accidentally pressed Spacebar again, and Goku did a like. Yeah, not his face. He almost started flying, and it showed a burst of energy come out of Goku as if it could have done it, but then it stopped him, froze, and then aired. It was like, I can't. I can't do this. All right, so what should we. What. What should we do next?

[Phil Labonte]

Darth Vader fighting Care Bears.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, it's Death. You can't do that. No, because we're not fighting. We're not telling stories. We're choosing an environment and a character to put them in. So we can try Darth Vader. But I bet it's going to say, screw off. Darth Vader and Care Bear Land. What was their place called?

[Jack Posobiec]

I forget.

[Tim Pool]

I have no idea.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't remember.

[Tim Pool]

I have a feeling Darth Vader's way.

[Jack Posobiec]

There was a name for it. Was it. Was it Dreamland or something like that?

[Tim Pool]

Darth Vader. I have a feeling it's going to be like, nice try, bro. I tried Mickey Mouse. It didn't work. Homer Simpson worked Darth Vader outside. Yeah, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Building in port.

[Tim Pool]

It said, no Darth Vader.

[Jack Posobiec]

Saying, no, no Darth Vader.

[Phil Labonte]

It was in. Care a lot.

[Tim Pool]

Care a lot.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, God.

[Phil Labonte]

Not like. It's like a play on Camelot.

[Tim Pool]

I did the Death Star. Let's do King Arthur. King Arthur. The Death Star worked. I did. What did I do? I think. I think I did, like Han Solo and the Death Star.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it worked. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wild.

[Jack Posobiec]

So we could actually. What you're saying is we could actually use this to do the one thing that Disney would. Would never do.

[Tim Pool]

Fix Star Wars.

[Jack Posobiec]

Put all of the original characters back together.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, that's not quite right once.

[Phil Labonte]

No, no.

[Tim Pool]

He's on a destroyer, staring at the Death Star.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, it's pretty.

[Tate Brown]

It's close, you know?

[Jack Posobiec]

Pretty close.

[Tim Pool]

He's on his way.

[Tate Brown]

He's on his way.

[Tim Pool]

You know he's on his way. No, no third party. Third party content.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're not doing it. Gosh.

[Tim Pool]

I have an idea. I have an idea. Let's try the Holy Land. What year do we want to do? 800 BC or 800 AD or Crusades? Yeah, what year is 1200 AD? Sure.

[Jack Posobiec]

1200.

[Tim Pool]

1200 AD and Templar Knight. I think of this. Someone punched in the coordinates of the crucifixion and they put the coordinates in. What year was it? Was it 33 A.D. or was it 38?

[Jack Posobiec]

The first. 1096, but 1096. Thank you. It technically, you know, it would be 33, but they. Some people say the Bible is like. Or the. The dates are slightly off.

[Tim Pool]

Put it in with the coordinates.

[Jack Posobiec]

29.

[Tim Pool]

And had a person walking with the cruise. The Crucifixion.

[Jack Posobiec]

There you go. And it rendered it. Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Let's see if it does.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it makes me think of it.

[Tate Brown]

Dearborn.

[Phil Labonte]

It looks like Assassin's Creed, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it is. We do a bunch of fallout stuff at one Dearborn, Michigan.

[Tate Brown]

At Templar and Dearborn. It'd be awesome.

[Tim Pool]

There we go.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, did you tell. Did you write put him on a horse?

[Tim Pool]

No.

[Jack Posobiec]

Look at that.

[Tim Pool]

The horse jumps. Look at that. Now it's trotting. Dude, this is nuts.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just g. What?

[Tim Pool]

Video games are done, bro. You guys see the game reluded? Did y' all see Reluded? Was that. Yeah, it's the game where you play black people stealing stuff.

[Tate Brown]

Oh. What?

[Tim Pool]

I'm not kidding. It's. It's. It's about. In the future. A group of black people are angry that white people stole their artifacts, so they go on a heist to steal it all from museums. It had 57 players at peak week on today's launch. So my point is everyone's been complaining about how bad video games are. The video game industry is cooked. Well, here you go.

[Tate Brown]

And they had this original idea. A game where black people steal.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Wow, you've really blown. I can't imagine something like that.

[Tim Pool]

But the funny thing is they thought they were being like, not racist by making it.

[Phil Labonte]

It's like, guys, it was stealing back artifacts or they were proposal.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, it's not with me here. That's technically what they said, but they mentioned in the story it's private collection.

[Tate Brown]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

Meaning it's not government held museum stuff. There were people who legitimately bought something and they were stealing it from them too.

[Phil Labonte]

Stealing. Nice.

[Tim Pool]

Okay, so Tate hasn't. Has A request. Dearborn, Michigan and Templar Knight. That's what you wanted.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I think this could be good.

[Tim Pool]

I don't think Gemini has the. The emotional intelligence to understand why it should not render this, but it's going to be like. I don't see anything wrong with that. Watch. It says. No, that'd be. That'd be hilarious.

[Phil Labonte]

There is nothing wrong with it.

[Tate Brown]

It's very much needed. I would.

[Phil Labonte]

I think it's. It's more.

[Tim Pool]

Put them on a horse is what's interesting. I didn't say to do that.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, that's pretty.

[Tim Pool]

You can also. You can also. You could put the. You could put the horses flying and then you can fly around.

[Jack Posobiec]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

It's wild Pegasus. Pegasus. All right.

[Tate Brown]

Blackhawk down. But Minneapolis. That could be all the smallies behind enemy lines.

[Jack Posobiec]

You're gonna see indie movies or in games and movies. You're gonna see.

[Tim Pool]

This is. This is my prediction. Here we go. I got it.

[Tate Brown]

They have Arabic script on the.

[Jack Posobiec]

Do they really? No, they don't. Perfect. No, that's just. That's just the AI script.

[Tim Pool]

My prediction.

[Tate Brown]

Scratch.

[Tim Pool]

My prediction is that video games and movies are going to be like following someone on a. You're going to be like, oh, bro, Tate makes the best games. No, look, that's Arabic, bro. That's Arabic, dude.

[Tate Brown]

Let's go. That's the point of view.

[Tim Pool]

Perfect.

[Tate Brown]

Trump. Third. We finally make.

[Tim Pool]

I don't like it when he's walking because they usually don't jump. If they do.

[Tate Brown]

Look how scared the locals are. They know it's game.

[Tim Pool]

Sometimes the controls don't work perfectly.

[Tate Brown]

American.

[Jack Posobiec]

Is that someone in a burka? Like straight ahead?

[Tim Pool]

It might be.

[Tate Brown]

Let's go.

[Tim Pool]

It's. The faces are always really weird, though.

[Jack Posobiec]

Even the helmet makes sense.

[Tim Pool]

Look, it's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's a full face.

[Tim Pool]

So that's Arabic.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's.

[Tim Pool]

That's AI Arabic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Nearly Arabic.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, look at this, dude. Look at the lights. Red and green at the same time.

[Tate Brown]

Ice budget's crazy. I don't know. This is this good.

[Tim Pool]

The ice.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. They're sending out Templar knights.

[Jack Posobiec]

Steven Miller. What was this?

[Phil Labonte]

The sword is probably cheaper than all the. The flashbangs and. And bear str.

[Tate Brown]

Like we were a little heavy handed on the response.

[Tim Pool]

You know what? Let's try this.

[Jack Posobiec]

You need the aluminum for.

[Tim Pool]

Let's try one more thing before we actually go back. It'll probably won't let me do this. Dearborn, Dear Bron De Braun, Dearborn, Michigan let's see. Major fire damage. Templar night running. Let's See if that one works. Whenever I try to make post apocalyptic scenes or whatever, it just always says no. Really?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's the weirdest thing because I was trying to render Fallout. I did Simpsons. I did. I made. I made. I said take the original. I said the original Legend of Zelda on NES in 3D with Link. And it made it. And it. It. It's not like a one for one of the map, but it looks like. All the same.

[Jack Posobiec]

But that. So that didn't trigger copyright, though, so it's kind of hit or miss.

[Tim Pool]

Looks like this one works.

[Jack Posobiec]

Destroyed.

[Tate Brown]

Let's go.

[Jack Posobiec]

You gotta screenshot that one.

[Tate Brown]

Pretty realistic. Pretty realistic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Welcome to Dearborn.

[Tim Pool]

Welcome to Dearborn.

[Tate Brown]

They've even blown up their own sign.

[Tim Pool]

My presumption was the Templar Knight did it.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Phil Labonte]

Look at this. He's an eod.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Give me a jump. Nah, he won't jump.

[Tate Brown]

This is why you trust the plan. Everyone.

[Tim Pool]

Does Dearborn, Michigan look like the firebomb?

[Phil Labonte]

Dearborn.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Tate Brown]

This is very glossy.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, this is rose.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is the Kenosha edition.

[Tim Pool]

Kenosha, bro. Should I. Should I do it? No, no, no. We're gonna save that one for the after show.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's in the after show. Oh, man.

[Tate Brown]

We retconned.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, no. What? I mean, that's just. That's just a replay.

[Tim Pool]

Yo, look at this. We'll go there and then. And then once it's done, you can save the video, which is higher res.

[Jack Posobiec]

You gotta save this.

[Tate Brown]

Where's all the locals? I think you. I think he did. This is after he's finished the fire. What do you mean?

[Tim Pool]

He's trying to save them.

[Tate Brown]

This is after he's completed the operation.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is. Yeah, this is the. This is the. You already won the game version.

[Tate Brown]

The remigration success, plus Act 3 of the game.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

After the nuclear bomb was dropped.

[Phil Labonte]

That's right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All right.

[Phil Labonte]

You'd have it broken up into acts.

[Tim Pool]

So then it'll freeze, and then it gives you the option to download it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wow.

[Tate Brown]

Amazing.

[Tim Pool]

So you can then. I don't know.

[Tate Brown]

What. That's so funny.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

The sign was perfect.

[Tim Pool]

And then there's. Yeah. Welcome.

[Jack Posobiec]

But you're still gonna. You know what, though? You're still. Think of it, though. You. You know what you still need the individual for is for that. That creative spark at the beginning.

[Tim Pool]

Because I don't. I. I.

[Jack Posobiec]

It doesn't know why a Templar in Dearborn is interesting and. But it doesn't know that. Why there would there be A market for that. Why would people care about. So you still right. You still need an.

[Tim Pool]

Remember we could tell jokes without getting in trouble.

[Jack Posobiec]

I know right? Here's we're gonna get in trouble for that.

[Tim Pool]

No but here's of course like some left is gonna be okay pulling but here's. Hey Brown bro. You made Media Matters. Congratulations.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah a lot.

[Jack Posobiec]

Here's, here's what I'm thinking of is like bad. It's like have you guys seen the new. The Iron Lung and that whole thing?

[Tim Pool]

Iron Lung?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, the new. It's that new movie that's out right now. It's like Markiplier. The guy put it all.

[Tim Pool]

Oh oh yes, yes, yes. Studios.

[Jack Posobiec]

He beat the major beat the studios mate. Literally made it himself. And it's based off an indie game but even then it's. It's the creativity of what went into that game and it's you know, this poke again maybe think of it as how it's post apocalyptic and you know, but it's in space obviously. But he has to go. He has to go. I haven't played the game but I watched the movie. It was great. And he, he has to explore this moon and he can only support explore it in a submersible because the entire moon is covered in liquid. But it turns out that it's not water. It's blood.

[Phil Labonte]

Blood filled ocean.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, it's an ocean of blood.

[Tim Pool]

And then they. They what? The corporate press was just like it never happened. They ignored him.

[Jack Posobiec]

Totally ignored. It wasn't a big deal. He fronted all the money for it. He stars in it himself. Does a great job by the way. And I think it's made like $20 million gross.

[Phil Labonte]

37.2 million. Oh my gosh, 33 million production budget. You fused 880,000 gallons of fake blood making the biggest. The bloodiest movie ever filmed.

[Tim Pool]

So and, and you know when we, we put out a bunch of songs and every time we do for some reason they gave us a. They gave us a fake reason why they weren't going to track it. They weren't going to put it on Billboard and it's all political. When we did a press release for one of our song releases, we got back emails from these major newspapers like the press release saying, you know, Tim Pool, really? A song with Pete Parotta. The song is titled this. They replied back with Go F yourself. Stuff like that. That's. That. That is what is wrong with these people.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'll tell you that. In, in putting together the halftime show we ran up against this as well. And there were times where we went up for, you know, for venues or certain times, and. And, oh, we're not going to work with you because your turning point. Or, you know, you have to imagine people are, you know, don't want to go up against the NFL. Don't want to go.

[Tim Pool]

Did you see the fake story they ran right before the halftime show?

[Jack Posobiec]

Which one?

[Tim Pool]

So a story ran that said, kid Rock, artists drop out.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, no, I did see this. Yes. Yeah, this came across my radar. And I'm looking at it going, well, I don't respond to this, but that he's obviously not dropped out because he's the star of.

[Tim Pool]

So check this out. This story went up just before the Super Bowl. Kid Rock festival cancels several tour dates after artists drop out. One band says it wants to unite, not divide. And so I'm at MGM on the right day before the super bowl. And I said, someone. Someone brought up Bad Bunny. And we're sitting at a poker table. And then I asked everybody. I was like, you guys excited for this, bro? Everybody was laughing. They were like, no. And the D. And I was like, yeah, Turning Point's gonna do that, that Kid Rock show. And the dealer goes, oh, but everyone dropped out of that. And I was like, no, they didn't. And he was like, yeah, I. I read that everybody dropped out. And I was like, I think you're thinking of something different because they're doing their show, like tomorrow. And then he was like, oh, I don't know. This is what they do. They run the story to tell people there's no show anymore. And then when you bring it up, separate festival.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yep, it's a separate festival. It's a separate thing. Which. And by the way, again, though, this is how the industry was working to chop block us at every turn. Working to, you know, oh, we're not going to give you these. These rights. We're not going to give you those rights. You can't broadcast on this song on X. You can't do this, you can't do that. And then. And then suddenly they put pressure on. Okay, Kid Rock thinks he's going to go up again. The super bowl halftime show where we're going to put pressure on bands to cancel his tour. We're going to cancel the dates, we're going to cancel the festival, anything they could. And in despite of that, we still get 40, 50 million.

[Tim Pool]

Do you have the video? So there's a bunch of videos in the super bowl of the crowd, but do you have the Actual video of the show. Did you post it on your ex. Oh, so there's a bunch of videos we've all. We all have seen.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't think I actually have posted the video on X.

[Tim Pool]

You know why? This is the craziest thing. So, okay, there's a bunch of videos where people during the show filmed the crowd and the crowd's not dancing. Right. That is not the most interesting video. Someone filmed the actual set of the halftime show. And you can't see anything because the whole center of the field is stalks of sugarcane.

[Jack Posobiec]

I've seen this. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And you can't see anybody inside doing anything. So.

[Jack Posobiec]

So it's. It's actually reminded me of the Velociraptors in Jurassic park, that video, because you just see, like the rustling of the tall grass. And so you're sitting there, you're looking for a show because.

[Phil Labonte]

Kind of swaying a little bit when you look.

[Jack Posobiec]

When you look at our halftime show, we went for that traditional spectacle, whereas, you know, you could enjoy on TV or live, whereas theirs, you could only.

[Tim Pool]

Here we go. Here we go. Check this out. Check this out. This is the. I don't need to hear that. So the people sitting in the stands can't actually see anything going on. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

They see the Velociraptors.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. And so people are like, it was a great show. It was a tremendous success. And I'm like, bro, no, it wasn't. This was for tv, not for. Look at this. You can't see anything. This is nuts, man.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know what?

[Tim Pool]

Really? Oh, it's so annoying. I don't want to hear this guy. The most annoying thing about this is the media keeps saying it was a record breaking thing. 135 million views, smashing success. And I'm like, just stop. I can't stand the Pravda. The party is stronger than ever. It's perfect. We are great. And then everybody else is watching Turning Point.

[Jack Posobiec]

Look, Clay Travis came out and, you know, I trust him when it comes to sports reporting. That's how he cut his teeth out. Kick. He knows this stuff. He said this was the. This was the largest drop off they've had for a halftime show in 50.

[Tim Pool]

40% or 50%.

[Jack Posobiec]

And. And he also pointed out that typically the halftime shows get a bump because people tune in because they want to see the show. Think Michael Jackson in 93.

[Tim Pool]

Listen, listen.

[Jack Posobiec]

People want to see him because of his. His. His stardom.

[Tim Pool]

When they had Eminem and who was it? Eminem and Snoop and Dre. It was like 20, 22 or whatever. I don't watch football. I know very little about football. We had a Super bowl party. We were, we were eating nachos. You put cream cheese chili and then cheddar on top. That's a secret recipe. Or melt chili. You bake it. It's the best football dip ever. And then when the halftime show came on, we all watched the tv. We. The halftime show is what everybody attaches to the fact they lost half their viewers when it happened.

[Jack Posobiec]

But here's, here's actually something. Well, keep in mind though, and this is something where, like, so when people are comparing the numbers that. And Tim, I know you understand this, that they're actually comparing apples to oranges, because our views on YouTube and our views from our cable partners and over the top and fast networks, etcetera, Those are devices, whereas Nielsen is completely different. Right. Nielsen uses a formula where they assume, and I kind of agree with this, they say, well, nobody really watches the super bowl by themselves. It's typically at a party or something thing. And so what they do is they take the, the household number and they times it by three.

[Tim Pool]

Yep. Where.

[Jack Posobiec]

So when you're reading Nielsen ratings, it says that. Whereas. And then they'll say, and Turning Point got 20 million views on their YouTube channel. It's like, well, first of all, we had more than one stream up. And second of all, and there are.

[Tim Pool]

Parties and there are bars.

[Jack Posobiec]

Those were parties. Those were bars. There were. Anyone with the YouTube TV set, I mean, the one I was at, we had like 30. This is over there with my wife.

[Tim Pool]

This has been a long standing challenge for us on Tim cast IRL because right now we have, let's see, between YouTube and Rumble, we have about 45. We have 43, 44,000 concurrent viewers. The issue is when we sell against this and we say, like, oh, you know, the show's going to get 600, 700,000 views. There's a difference between a show like ours, which is live 8 to 11pm every day, and a VOD which is watched on mobile. About half our viewers watch on TVs. And so one thing I noticed very early on was that it seemed disproportionate the amount of people who knew about the show and talked to me. And I didn't understand until we actually figured out talking with some industry execs who said, oh, it's because you're a TV show. Tim, Cast IRL is watched on a lot of televisions, right?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There's four or five people in that room. And I went, oh, we had advertisers, right? So we had advertisers say to us, we heard this for, like, two years. You. You overperform. You have 600,000, 700,000 viewers. We'll buy an ad from you, and it performs as though it's a million. We love advertising on your show, and we sell ads like crazy. The reality is we're underselling because the metrics used online are seemingly a device, even if it's actually multiple people. So here's the. Here's a challenge for you, Jack, and here's what you guys should say. You guys should say you had 90 million viewers. I'm gonna.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'm gonna say right now 30 million. Then you would times it by three.

[Tim Pool]

Because the halftime show was played on bars, on televisions. It was not. And it's a silly thing to assume. In fact, here's what you really should do. Go into your. Go into the channel's metrics and look how many mobile devices and how many TVs. And for every TV, do the Nelson analysis. Nielsen analysis. So if you guys have 40% TVs, call that you got 45 million, let's say 20 times 360. That puts you at 85 million views for the TPUSA halftime show people. Yeah, right. Right. Viewers. And this is my point.

[Jack Posobiec]

So whenever you read these articles and they're comparing the numbers, you're comparing apples to oranges, because Nielsen uses the times three.

[Tim Pool]

Let me. Let me just throw this here, because we mentioned this on the show when it happened or the day after. Which advertiser out there. Which would you prefer? I can hold up a sign that someone will walk past, or I could hold up a sign to a group of people who are looking to come and stare at the sign.

[Jack Posobiec]

You want the engaged?

[Tim Pool]

You want the engaged? The turning point halftime show was people saying, I'd like to come find this. The super bowl halftime show was people who had the TV on in the background.

[Tate Brown]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

So it's not only apples to oranges.

[Jack Posobiec]

Did you see that video?

[Tim Pool]

Totally different metrics.

[Jack Posobiec]

This guy's going viral because he had a Super bowl party and he put on the 2014 Super bowl and nobody noticed the entire time.

[Phil Labonte]

There's, like. There's a lot of people that just tune in for the halftime show. There's a lot of people that just tune in just to watch the commercials.

[Jack Posobiec]

Not this year.

[Tate Brown]

Those are the most pathetic people, like, just broken by lies.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, here's. Here's something interesting as well, because I. I didn't really watch a lot of the commercials, but one of the ones that I did catch was. And I guess there's been a series of these, Duncan with like Ben Affleck, and this is like the third year that he's done an iteration of this. So did you notice that they, they brought back a lot of the 90s sitcom characters for this one. Oh, really? So, like Jason Alexander comes in from Seinfeld, and I think I want to say they had David Schwimmer from Friends came in and Jennifer Aniston. It was. Maybe it was Matt LeBlanc, the Joey. And point being is they were going for that 90s nostalgia in this one piece. But here's the twist, right? So you're going for that, that 30 to 44 age demo that's out there like your 80s, early 90s kids.

[Tate Brown]

Kids.

[Jack Posobiec]

But what's amazing is who's Kid Rock's key demo is the people in that same. No, certainly not Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny's demo was. Because that was globalist. Right. The reason they had. So just to finish our point, we had Kid Rock. So we were. Not only did we get the views that we got, but we were also cutting into that key demo that they were looking for, which it wasn't something that we really intended to do. But, you know, thinking about it now, because we're about talking, talking ratings, we're talking numbers, we're talking all this stuff. You know, you get the number two YouTube live stream of all time and suddenly we're realizing that, wait a minute. I bet you if we broke that out by age, we probably got that key, key advertising demo that they wanted. The disposable income, the elder millennials, centennials, Gen Y. That's who they were going for. And we stole a lot of those. Meanwhile, Bad Bunny, you know, they say he's the number one global streamer. Yeah. But that's because he's got a targeted audience. It's because they automatically speaking world. And there are a lot of allegations of autoplay. No, no, there are.

[Tim Pool]

Certainly that's what it is. When I, when I go on my Tesla and I say, like, top music, yo. There are people on there who are. You know what? I'll put it like this. Without disparaging a particular band. I'm not going to say their name. I was hanging out at MGM and a song comes on. This song on YouTube has like 1.3 million views and it's been out for a few years. And I'm just thinking to myself, why is this song Playing in a casino with 50,000 people in it. Nobody knows what the song is, and it's not a good song. Yeah, it's obvious. The label just said, we want this on rotation.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, well, like in the buying that people can buy the streams. And I remember, like, a few years ago, my Spotify got hacked and I was still logged in, and I would change the song and it would autoplay, but I won't say which artist it was. But it's like a rapper that had accusations of buying his streams and would keep going back to the song he had just released. Released over and over again. And then I found, like, it showed where the active logins were, and it was in Russia, so it's like.

[Tim Pool]

Russians.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. And then they were. They were making a bot account.

[Jack Posobiec]

We were at this. We were out the other night, you know, the night before the halftime show, and I was like. I was like, oh, let's. And it was one of those places that has the touch tunes, like the. The jukebox.

[Tate Brown]

I'm a touch tunes warrior.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I was like. And I was like, oh, let's get in there. Let's. Oh, it was. It was getting hot. It was getting hot. Hot that night.

[Tim Pool]

Dude.

[Tate Brown]

It gets like. You're in the church. You're absolutely in the trench warfare.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, yeah. We had a couple people that were. I was like, I know.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, the. The fast credits or whatever this. You know. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

But then other people put their fast credits ahead of you.

[Tate Brown]

Turn into an arms race.

[Jack Posobiec]

The Cold War, it basically was. And what you do.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, go ahead.

[Jack Posobiec]

And so. So I. But before I went on my app, I actually just went over to the. The machine and, you know, whose face was right there staring at me was Bad Bunny, of course. And I was like, wait, like. And then his album was. The first thing that that popped up was Bad Bunny. I'm like, why Want to do Ball at the Ball by Kid Rock and. And you had. It was so hard to search for it and dig through. And there were certain. I was just like. Then I just got randomly, like, looking for different bands, and it's like, these are big bands who have huge followings. Not even there.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Yeah. Even if you cut through all, like, the politics surrounding Bad Bunny, like, it's just very nefarious because the NFL, Roc Nation, when they're. When they're choosing Bad Bunny to be.

[Jack Posobiec]

The half Jay Z Dark Nation.

[Tate Brown]

So he controls. What makes it so nefarious, is the halftime show is meant to just be an entertaining product for the audience at home. The reason they select Bad Bunny is because the NFL has been actively trying to expand into Latin America. That's why they play games in Mexico City and they play games in Brazil.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was getting at. So it's globalist.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. So that's why they're. They're just treating the audience as an opportunity. Expand a brand. It's nefarious.

[Tim Pool]

I got a question. Who's Luke Bryan?

[Tate Brown]

He's a country.

[Tim Pool]

Are we okay with that?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, okay. I guess so.

[Tim Pool]

Who's Jamie Johnson?

[Phil Labonte]

Don't know.

[Tate Brown]

He's folk. Right.

[Tim Pool]

Is that okay? All right. Three doors down. I'm okay with that. So I. I have the Touch Tunes app and you can from anywhere, play music anywhere.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, that's right.

[Tim Pool]

So I say we go to LA right now and we teach these people a lesson. Yeah, just put on some Kid Rock.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait, do they have. Do they have. Wait, wait, Tim. Do they have any locations in Puerto Rico?

[Tate Brown]

That's me and my friends. We go to like very Lib coated.

[Tim Pool]

I don't, I don't think it. I don't think it lets you do anything that's not near you.

[Tate Brown]

We would go to very limb coated bars and broken.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Just ram Morrissey down their throats.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. It's only letting me do things that are directly around you.

[Jack Posobiec]

His Notre Dame song.

[Tim Pool]

But I'll tell you what, let's see.

[Tate Brown]

Waffle House across the bow. You play some more cd.

[Tim Pool]

Waffle House in Inwood is playing nothing tunes at Waffle.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, bro.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, Love Loss is where it's at.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, I know. I love it. I didn't know they had the one. I go to local doesn't have one.

[Phil Labonte]

You need a soundtrack for the violence.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, break stuff by Limp Bizkit.

[Tim Pool]

You know what? No, I changed my mind. I figured it out. I'm gonna start hitting up all of these Touch tunes to make it play Bad Bunny. So people get angry and start complaining.

[Phil Labonte]

About it, creating hate for Bad Bunny. But to your point, Jack, it is about the globalism. But more than that, it was about subverting, I think, something that is truly American. Right. Like he was speaking in Spanish. Most of your, you know, your football fans don't speak Spanish. I mean, I understand that there's a lot of people that do speak Spanish in the US but most of the guys that are watching football, they don't speak Spanish.

[Tate Brown]

15% of the country.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. It's not a huge percentage. The flags that he was carrying the Puerto Rican flag with the light blue. That isn't. That's the revolutionary Puerto Rican flag. That was about separating himself from America. When he was saying, oh, we're all America. All of that stuff was implying that north and South America are the real America.

[Jack Posobiec]

It was all sweet.

[Phil Labonte]

It was all communist bs.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is open borders. This is globalism. This is, you know, everyone, there's a.

[Tim Pool]

Migrant caravan marching across the border. Yeah, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

And the flags, if you look at the flags that were at the front, those are all the.

[Jack Posobiec]

And there were so many conservatives saying that, oh, it wasn't political at all. I'm looking at it and like there are foreign flags marching and saying, we are.

[Phil Labonte]

It was not. There's not only. There's not only people saying conservatives saying that, but Jacobin and DSA were saying the truth. They were saying, look, look, this is a great political statement.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is why I actually appreciate, in a sense, Jacobin and dsa. Because they're just honest.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Like, they, like most lie to you and they'll lie to you. Whereas, like, at least the Jacobin guys are like, no, we are communists. We are here to destroy you. We want a revolution in your country. That's what we're.

[Tim Pool]

I have a. I have an ongoing subscription to Jacobin magazine.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I think it's. It's important to know what 100% think censorship is bad. But I will say this too. Jacobin has been on the right side of some issues We've discussed quite a bit. They're communists. I mean, they're super far left. But there have been issues of, like, government overreach that they've been on the right side of.

[Tate Brown]

Famously, they endorsed a policy that's actually very right wing, which is when New York City passed a bill that every establishment has to take cash, no questions asked. It's a really right wing policy because that was at the same time when Beto O' Rourke was like, Chase should deny purchases for AR15s. And they're saying, well, we don't want banking controlling your purchases. New York City, they pass a bill tending for, like, help homeless people buy stuff or whatever. But it's actually just a really right wing policy.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, look, when I, when I came up there and I, you know, I had no notes, I had no, like, direction. You know, we were, again, we just, we threw this thing together in three months and really less than that because we had Amfest and then Christmas and New Year's, really more like two months. And we'd cast a wide net early on, you know, and then you have to drill down on, on venues and, and Artists. And then we had so many artists who said they would do it, but then when it came to those rights didn't work out. And, you know, I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna point fingers, but, you know, I think we all know who didn't want a half a competitive halftime show. I'll just leave it at that. And I realized, though, that the way to win this is just make it completely non political. No politics. Don't go up there and be trolling. Don't go up there and like talk about Trump or anything like that.

[Tate Brown]

Make a good product.

[Jack Posobiec]

Just make a good product.

[Tate Brown]

Just called the English speaking All American.

[Jack Posobiec]

All American.

[Phil Labonte]

They're going to cast it as a political thing anyways. The left was casting the TPUSA thing as they were saying that it's political. That it was. Was, oh, these guys are all political and stuff. It doesn't matter what you're saying. It's just that the fact that it's people that are ex. That are. That are comfortable playing what is perceived as a right wing event, then it's automatically it's political and it's blah, blah, blah. Even though the bad bunny one is the one that actually had all the subversion in it.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Tate Brown]

All of the states last year with Kendrick Lamar.

[Jack Posobiec]

But ultimately, I will say it's already been. In another sense, though, in like a higher sense, it is political. Right. It's political because the left in this country has separated from the traditional idea of American patriotism. And so patriotism didn't used to be political. It is now. Yeah. And. And that's what made it. Just made it the perfect storm where we. We wrote in there and said, we are going to do it this way. We're going to have this. We're going to have Kid Rock who's, you know, a super famous, famous artist that, you know, really, that's what made this break containment. We broke containment where normies, people at bars, Uber drivers, whatever you call it, they're all saying, oh, the Kid Rock halftime show. The American halftime show. That's. That's the one we watched.

[Tim Pool]

How come you didn't get Creed and.

[Phil Labonte]

That Alter Bridges on tour in Europe?

[Jack Posobiec]

Alter Bridges on tour in Europe and they were literally in Spain and you're.

[Tim Pool]

Getting them next year for sure.

[Jack Posobiec]

We're gonna see. We're gonna see what we do. We're gonna see what we do do. We're gonna see what we do.

[Phil Labonte]

As long as you don't have.

[Tim Pool]

I will be disappointed.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Just so long as you don't have any boxers.

[Tate Brown]

Throw it on stage.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, again, though.

[Tim Pool]

Again, I. I got a picture.

[Jack Posobiec]

But what I'm saying, though, is here's. Here's the thing is, like, when it comes to any one artist and this is. This is what it was a huge learning curve for me on so much of this. I should feel like I should have called you to explain how all the rights work to everybody. It's not even up to the artists, of course. It's. It's about the people who own the rights to the song. So it's like. It's like, what if we. What if we had gotten. Well, I'll just say Kid Rock. So it's like Kid Rock comes on, he says he wants to come, but then he doesn't own the rights to ball with the ball because Universal does. And then what if Universal says, oh, you can't play ball with the ball at Turning Point, I got a pitch for you. And it's like, what do you do then?

[Tim Pool]

I think you guys should actually do a festival next year. And the headline show should be the halftime. But there can be stuff before and after.

[Jack Posobiec]

That's. That was my, like, look, the brainstorming, that was one of the ideas that I had had. Early on. We wanted to do it outside. We wanted to do it with a huge audience. It worked out the way that it did this time because we had a limited time. That's something that we're actively looking at. By the way, though, I. I think I already do have the venue and our mains will play and I can. I can announce the venue tonight, actually, because. And I'll explain. I'll explain why, because we were looking at YouTube live streams over the years, and the record. Tim, do you know what the number one YouTube live stream of all time was? Is, or currently is.

[Tim Pool]

Well, YouTube live stream, that's the. The Moonlander, right?

[Jack Posobiec]

Is the Indian Moonlander. The Indian Moonlander. So, you know, you're going up against the subcontinent 1. What is it? 1.6, 1.7 billion people, you know, A billion people.

[Tim Pool]

So what I've read.

[Jack Posobiec]

So what I want to do is. No, no, we're doing it on the moon. Modi's gonna be there. Modi's gonna open it up so they.

[Tim Pool]

All tune in Dimas, baby.

[Jack Posobiec]

So he's gonna give him. We'll have like Ravi Shankar, you know, his. Or Nushka Shankar, his daughter, you know, come on out. It's going to be phenomenal. She'll be the opener. And then we get that audience and Then boom, we totally lock it in.

[Tim Pool]

No, I think if you did a music festival.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'd love to do a festival.

[Tim Pool]

I think you should. I'd love to do a festival because right now is the time to start planning for it. And what do you think? Like big acreage, multi stage. Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, if you're going to do Magaroo.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, that'd be sick.

[Tim Pool]

If you do.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, but not political. No politics.

[Phil Labonte]

You want to do. You want to do two stages. So that way you can have one stage being set up while the other one's going. Whether they be end to end or next to it, both of them actually have time Fest.

[Jack Posobiec]

Actually, that might work better because it should. This was, this was the reason. And you know, cats out of the bag. Because Kid Rock and there was this whole controversy. Not lip syncing, by the way. I'm there. I have video from the set. I have the masters. I was watching it.

[Tim Pool]

I could.

[Jack Posobiec]

I posted this.

[Tim Pool]

Fake smears.

[Jack Posobiec]

He is not lip syncing. There was an audio sync issue. Yes, yes. For a portion of it where you can see it's. It's not just his vocals that are out of. Out of sync. Everything is out of sync. Like, if you actually understand how music works, you could see the drums are out of sync, the guitars are out of sync. Everything's out of sync in that moment because it was a sync issue. But I've got backstage footage where you can see the, the on the closed circuit that he's just singing like normal and he's right there. But so he, he, he let the cat out of the bag that the whole. It was pre recorded. And when he says pre recorded, that doesn't mean the music was pre recorded. That means the show was pre recorded. And the reason we pre recorded is exactly what Phil just said it was about. Setup time. Because Bad Bunny, think of it. And Tim, you just showed that video where they have to come out, they have to set up the, the grass, the grasslands or whatever, and, and do that all takes time. Whereas we were able to do more show in the same amount of time.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because we were able to eliminate that setup shut, you know, set up breakdown time. Because we could just show. Act to act to act to act. And Phil, obviously, because you put on shows, I'm sure you noticed that right away.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So. So festival. Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Multi day, but multiple stages. Could.

[Tim Pool]

Multiple stages. Two days. How many days?

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, you, if you do two days, you're doing all right. I mean, usually if you're going to do two days. You're going to have two days with two stages. You're talking about probably 20 to 30 bands. It'd be, would be what you're looking for.

[Tim Pool]

You know, we'll get the Defiant to play.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Patriot Fest.

[Tim Pool]

Patriot Fest.

[Phil Labonte]

Trying to avoid the political stuff here.

[Tim Pool]

I say you call it Halftime Fest. And the point is you just get big bands and then the message is not overtly political. It's just we want a good show from bands that we know and love.

[Phil Labonte]

That's it.

[Tim Pool]

But here's the thing, dude. If, if you're booking big bands, Kid Rock, you're going to sell tickets.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

You don't, you don't need to make.

[Jack Posobiec]

I don't think I, I mean it look, the proof of concept, it's, it's clearly there. The, the. And, and, and what we showed. What we showed. And look, and this is where, you know, this is where, you know, I talked about how the gatekeeping definitely affected us early on, but it ended up in a much better spot because now when you see the numbers like that. 40, 50 million all in on. On a wing and a prayer and we're slapping this thing together like literally as we go along that there's a lot of people that want to be associated with that amount of eyeballs. And when it comes down to it, Tim, it's your point. It, it is about money, it is about advertisers, it is about, you know, people who want to get involved. Now I'll say. And you notice we did. We didn't run apps. Ads. We didn't run ads. We kept it as C3. We, I mean we ran obviously a Charlie tribute. We talked about our, Our own org look, that was it.

[Tim Pool]

If you guys launch, if this was to be a for profit venture based off the views that you got and next you did a festival based off those views is a hundred million dollar operation overnight. It's not an exaggeration. A festival that can pull in those kind of live numbers. You think about the amount of sponsors each stage is going to be able to get. You think about when I say 100 million. I mean it's a sell. It's a value of. So I'm picturing that if you started selling advertisements first you need to plan how many stages, where it's going to be, what's it going to look like? Which includes the live stream with an estimated 40 to 50 million, probably more. Next.

[Jack Posobiec]

Do it exactly on the site of Woodstock 99.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

In February. This is. You're gonna bring in like 20 or 30 million dollars in paid sponsorships in advance. And so festivals like this, based off the conventions and stuff that I've seen in the sales that they've pulled in, based on their numbers, this is like a 100 million dollar business at the.

[Jack Posobiec]

End of the day. At the end of the day, it's, it's as amazing as all that is. Look, it's. We have to make sure that whatever we do, we stay true to the mission. Right? And that's Charlie's mission. Because Charlie. And this is one of the things that people don't realize. Like, this wasn't like, like, yeah, I had the tweet and all, but like, it was Charlie's. He always talked about the super bowl halftime show. And he would say, he would say, this isn't family friendly. You can't show this to little kids. He would call it. This is debauchery. He called it sexual anarchy in 2022. And his whole point was, you've got to have something that showcases the type of. We have a clip of him that, that where he's saying, showcase the type of virtues that you want to see throughout the country. And so what do we have? We had, we had rock music, we had country, we had Kid Rock preaching the gospel, by the way. You know, I think anybody saw that coming. Which, man, it was so hard for me to not talk about that because I, I was sitting backstage bawling my eyes out. No, I'm just, I'm just going to tell you the truth. When he hit that song, when you start sing, when he showed the picture of Charlie and he starts singing about, hey, you know, when your dad asks you to go fishing, why don't you say yes? Because one day you, you can't. Lost it.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, we. Kellen helped pull something together. Looks like we're good to go. Let me, let me grab this. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, no. Oh, big oh, no.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, it's all.

[Tim Pool]

It's cooking, bro.

[Jack Posobiec]

Starbase, Texas.

[Tate Brown]

Oh. Because like the halftime show, it's the.

[Tim Pool]

Wrong date if you're gonna do the super bowl next year.

[Tate Brown]

But you know, and on the, on the note of like the virtues we want to see from the halftime show, like, this doesn't necessarily have to be like, we get around and like, show like, let's get married and have kids. Like, it should celebrate like, American vitality, the essence of America.

[Tim Pool]

Real quick. This is a parody of Bonnaroo.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. That's what he was. That's what he's saying, but.

[Tate Brown]

But the point.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, my point is, like, it's like, yeah, you don't have to be so overt like that. Just celebrate like Bunny was mentality.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, it's. It's. But that's what it is. Through art, through music, the last, like.

[Tim Pool]

Well, and you.

[Jack Posobiec]

You got what. And I think a lot of people got what Kid Rock was doing with. With the way that he did the transition.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Of where people were. Okay. He first. He comes out with ball at the ball. That's how you met him. He was Kid Rock, and he was introduced as Kid Rock. But then Kid Rock goes away, and then you get. You get Antonio and Allison Marin, who the phenomenal. The. The string section comes out, and then they. They have this moment showcasing transition. Right? That was the whole point of transition. That. Like a real transition, not like the. The crazy one that we talk about. Then he gets reintroduced. The same guys who come up, they reintroduce him as Robert Richie. And then Robert Richie comes out and plays till you can. And so the point was, you know, it's him saying, look, this was me in the 90s, you know, top of the world. I've got the girls, I got the fame, I got the jets, I got everything I want, you know, But I don't have Christ, and I'm missing something. And that's what he finds. And he's talking about second chances, and he's obviously, you know, he's singing about himself. He's thinking about I found Christ. And so you're looking at his salvation story, and he's offering that to so many people. And I didn't even get that because I. I had heard, you know, what do you mean? We're getting a string section, and Kid Rock wants a cello. Like, what you, bro.

[Tim Pool]

Wait. I just had a vision.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then. And then we put it all together. It was phenomenal.

[Tate Brown]

Had a vision.

[Tim Pool]

We have to. I. I just. I had a vision. I had a vision of all that remains playing main stage. And Mike Lindell comes out.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And right. Right at one of, like, the biggest screams.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, no.

[Tim Pool]

Mike Lindell. Patriot, bro.

[Phil Labonte]

Every B. I'd hand over them mic. I'd hand over the mic for Mike Lindell.

[Tim Pool]

We got to jump to the story. This is from.

[Jack Posobiec]

We need Mike Lindell and Drop D. Let's go, guys.

[Tim Pool]

We got the story. This from the New York Post. Gun person in a dress behind Canada's deadliest shooting in decades. Horrified Tumblr Ridge students reveal there's a mass shooting the other day. A transgender individual killed several people, including himself. And when the story broke, the media was calling the. The shooter a woman in a driver dress, which immediately people said, that's a weird way to describe a woman. The New York Post then said female in address because they changed it because people don't know what the left is trying to convey or they do, they're lying, whatever. Then news broke that in fact it was a biological male who identified as transgender. And the story here is. I mean, the tragedy is a tragedy. It's sad. But the story here is the COVID up.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

The. What was the police chief who's at gun.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, by the way, though, the, the. That. I think it also just broke that he actually. He killed his own family first.

[Tim Pool]

No, that was, that was in the initial reporting.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I've, I've been running around.

[Tim Pool]

So it was the police chief said gun person.

[Tate Brown]

Right. That's what was so crazy because we, we were trying to stitch together the story this morning. Like, okay, what's confirmed, what's not. Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And I was, I was kind of like, not cool.

[Tate Brown]

Like, British Columbia papers were like, talking to the guy's family. They were like, they're talking to classmates, and they're like, yes, this is him. But the police just refused to actually admit it. So you had, again, you had like the Western Standard there, a large paper in British Columbia, like, yeah, we talked to the classmates. 100% this guy, no doubt about it. But, like, if you're in the media and you're commentating on this, you still can't go all in because you still need, like, the permission from the local police. But they were just all out on defense. And even afterwards where the local police was like, well, we still want to honor this person's, like, gender identity.

[Tim Pool]

Why do you need to respond? Expect a mass shooter, right?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, because keep in mind that you're, you're, you're in Canada. This is not a place where you have, like, the same kind of freedom of speech, the same protections.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, we've seen people in the UK go to jail for a fresh financial.

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[Jack Posobiec]

Or inciting hatred. Inciting discrimination. And so it could easily be something where they're actually worried about. About, you know, the media in Canada getting fines for not referring to them by the proper pronouns.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, this is the exact reason why we can't take any part of Canada as a 51st day. I don't care what. I'm still on that. We are not taking any part of Canada.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, we conquer and subjugate, Phil. Subjugate.

[Tate Brown]

Strip the rights.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

There's no voting rights in Canada.

[Tim Pool]

What we do is. Here's the plan. Territories. After we. After we take all the territory, we treat them as though they're illegal immigrants. Immigrants.

[Phil Labonte]

Deport them from their home.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Democrat strategy. They're. They're able to work jobs that we don't want, but they don't get to vote and they don't have access to public accommodation.

[Tate Brown]

That would be exciting. Some white illegal immigrants. That'd be fun.

[Tim Pool]

No, no. Did you guys see the story with the Irish guy? Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, yeah. That was so dumb.

[Tim Pool]

The left is like, do you know the story?

[Tate Brown]

No.

[Tim Pool]

Irish guy's been here for like 20 something years and he's been locked up in detention and he's like, I have a work permit to be here and I'm married to an American citizen. Okay. He entered here on the visa waiver program. And do you know why it's called the visa waiver program? Well, certain countries, you are waiving your rights when you come to the United States under a visa waiver. And they have this in Europe. We do it too, when we go over there.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You don't need a visa to enter. In lieu of applying for a visa, you waive your rights to judicial process in the event you are going to be removed. 90 days in the country, we can kick you out whenever we want. That's the trade off.

[Jack Posobiec]

Off. Right.

[Tim Pool]

If you don't want to deal with that, you can apply for a visa. They have business, they have tourist visas. You can apply and then we can challenge those. So this guy's been here for 20 years on fired visa. He ended in 09.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And now he's like, it's torture. I'm being tortured. And it's like, you can literally go home anytime. The only reason you're still here is because you're refusing to leave.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, yeah. We don't like, want him here. Like, you can go to Ireland. That's what I remember. That that story broke. And even me, like, the most avow, like, pro ice person out there, I saw the initial headline. I'm like, like, okay, that's a little weird. Like, what's going on here? And then you just scratched the surface a little bit. It's like the guy came in.09 for a 90 day visa and overstayed it, and then he's refusing to, like, go back to Ireland. It's insane.

[Tim Pool]

And he's demanding, he's demanding a court process which was denied. The, the, the court actually said because he entered on a visa waiver, he explicitly includes a waiver of your rights to due process in the event deportation is sought.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So it's just, just it, it, it pisses me off to no end that they're like, this poor man, he's been here and he's Irish. And I'm like, bro, he committed a crime. Yeah, that's it. He can go back to Ireland and reapply. I got no beef. But he's got to go back to Ireland, reapply.

[Tate Brown]

Ireland's also, like, the easiest country to get an American visa for. They literally have a working holiday visa where you can get like a two year. If you're Irish, you can get like a two year visa. You come here and it's a working visa for two years. And he, like, didn't even pick that up.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't think that he should be allowed back or.

[Tate Brown]

Well, no, he, I mean, once you.

[Tim Pool]

Violate your visa, you're saying, you're saying seek hot.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, you know, maybe not for.

[Jack Posobiec]

Life, but, you know, for a period, for a period of time until he, until he's correct.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. And he, like, played it fast and loose with how he got married, too. Like, he got married, like, really quickly out of nowhere.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Also, by the way, if, if he got married, why did he not apply for naturalization?

[Tate Brown]

Why did he go back and then apply and go back to Ireland? That's the problem.

[Tim Pool]

Right? He's been here for 20. What? No, he's been here for 16.

[Tate Brown]

Nine.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, he's been here for 16 years. And he only recently applied and had a meeting and they said, yeah, too bad. You got to go. And he's fighting it and he's like, please get me out of this detention center. And it's like, yes, you're playing. To Ireland awaits, sir.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, get out.

[Tate Brown]

I was amazed when I found out about, like, this is actually kind of an issue with, like, Irish illegal immigrants is you're. If you go to, like, Woodside in Queens, you'll see these really old Irish people that are there, and they entered illegally in, like, the 80s, and they've been here, like, the whole time during the Troubles.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wow.

[Tate Brown]

I know. It's exciting. I'm like, white illegals. It's, like, such a mystery to see that them. I'm like, did you like the Bad Bunny show? You got to ask these questions.

[Phil Labonte]

Get out. Get out.

[Jack Posobiec]

Wait, wait. I have to ask you. The ubiquitous question about the Bad Bunny show.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

Was that. And I'm sure you've seen this discourse about how he just. He showcased so many facets of his culture that are totally unaware by white people, that we have no idea what it's like seeing someone sleep across a kid, sleep across us two to three chairs at a wedding, that we have no idea what it's like. You see, it's totally different. It's totally unique.

[Tate Brown]

They just.

[Jack Posobiec]

Because in their culture, they actually really value food and music and family and dinner is, like a daily thing. It's totally unique, by the way.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Literally, they take, like. They take traits that are very common among, like, the lower middle class or lower class, and then they attribute it to, like, some sort of, like, unique ethnic idea.

[Jack Posobiec]

There was this tweet going viral.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Tim, I don't know if you saw this tweet that was going viral where. Where I guess with some girl, and she was like, this is the. This is the most Latin thing ever where it's a little kid sleeping across two, two to three chairs at a wedding. And it's like, isn't that just being a kid? Yeah. At a family event that goes like.

[Tim Pool]

Again, this is the point that these people are.

[Jack Posobiec]

The.

[Tim Pool]

The problem I see with a lot of these liberals is that they. They come from these insular environments. Like, when they had that whole campaign about the talk, and the white liberals were like, black people have to tell their kids to obey the police. And I'm just like, that's true for literally every single person.

[Jack Posobiec]

My white mind can't comprehend this.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, what I've told everybody that watches this show multiple times. Do what the cops say or the cops are going to shoot you.

[Tim Pool]

No, Phil, you're giving the talk.

[Phil Labonte]

I know, right?

[Tate Brown]

But, like, what Jack's saying is they'll. They'll do this thing where he'll be like. Like, you know, in Lebanese culture, we have this really unique thing. We.

[Tim Pool]

We.

[Tate Brown]

We get together for a meal, and it's like, it's like a tradition for us. You're describing dinner.

[Jack Posobiec]

I saw someone in the, in the comments. They were, they were like, from some, it, it was like some East Asian country and they were saying, and there was a, a foreign student. It was in the US and he, he had just lost his grandfather. And then the father was explaining to the American, you see, he's really sad because in our culture we really value our grandparents. So it's, you know, it just so, so you understand that.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I'll be honest. Like the way Americans shove their parents and grandparents in homes, sort of leave.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

There was the, there was a comedian, Stavros, I don't know how to say his last name. Heikos or whatever. And he did make a good point where he's like, there's WASP culture and then there's. Everything else is kind of the same and it's kind of true or it's like, it's kind of true to a degree. When you do see these sorts of behaviors. If you're like a wasp, like a very like old school American that is kind of foreign. But it's like every, everybody else combined, there's some truth.

[Jack Posobiec]

But I mean, I'll say, I'll even point out and I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll play devil's advocate on the, on the, you know, the, the senior homes. Is that, that is something because that is, that is WASP culture because of them wanting to be more independent. Yeah, right. They don't want to be like the burden.

[Tate Brown]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

On, on the children. Whereas in, in most other cultures, like, like I'm Polish obviously. And in Polish culture, it, it's, it's an Eastern European culture. It's very much the traditional, you know, multi generational family household.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

The grandparents take care of the little kids. Kids that, it's a whole thing. And by, but by the way though, there's all. What's like the number one book series in the UK right now is the, the Thursday Murder Club. Right, right. Where it's like a bunch of seniors running the, going around and solving murders because they live at a, at a home together. Whereas like in other cultures that like that just wouldn't even exist. That whole dynamic doesn't exist.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. There is some truth that like the United States, because of like our founding, founding culture being like super like hyper Calvinist, is that we have this like very uniquely individualistic culture. And so to like the Jack's point, I remember a few years ago this discourse started on the Right. Where they're like, you know, the nuclear family is actually bad and we should, like, embrace multigenerational living. And I'm like, but we're, we never have. Like, the United States has always been a very individualistic culture. That's why we're so awesome. That's why every American, like, I love this description of Americans that we're all temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

It's like, that is. That is the reason why we, like, are like, let's just go to the moon, like, these sorts of things that actually is like a very intrinsic to America and by extension, I guess, like the UK and Australia, they're kind of losing it. So you do see some of these things introduced and they're like, passed off as conservative or right wing, but it's like, it's just foreign to the United States and, like, the way it's being implemented, it's like, once you see it, you're like, well, that's not quite us. There's a reason why America's so unique. So, yeah. Multi generational. It's like, to Jack's point, like, old people don't want to be perceived as a burden on their kids. Yeah. Which is really different.

[Jack Posobiec]

Or the American thing actually, you know.

[Phil Labonte]

Know somebody worth preserving, too.

[Jack Posobiec]

So somebody was this. Actually, there's. There's an element of this in the Nancy Guthrie case, and that's obviously going as horrific. It's so terrible. But people were pointing out, I. I guess the first night, like the last night which she was seen, they said she took an Uber to the son and daughter's house for dinner.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And. And I heard a lot of people saying, well, wait a minute, they're, you know, the son, daughter only live a couple of minutes a day. Why wouldn't they pick her up, up. And. But it goes back to the same culture that we're talking about. Don't want to be seen as a burden. Want to demonstrate independence and that this is, it's, it's. It's just part of that culture.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And it's not something that you can, you can change. And also, when you. Again, when you bring in people who are from different cultures, yes, they can assimilate to that, you know, to an extent. But when you bring so many people in who don't have that culture, that don't have any history of that, they don't assimilate because it is totally foreign way of thinking and way of believing. So to answer the question, it's like, why would you take that Uber? Because that's the culture.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I mean, you can argue the merits of it, but, like, John Doyle made this point. It's a really good point. He was talking about how his neighbor's house burnt down and the whole neighborhood came together. Like, we're going to help you rebuild.

[Jack Posobiec]

He set his neighbor's house on fire. John Doyle.

[Tate Brown]

John Doyle. Yeah. Patriot. But it's a little strange, but, like. Anyway, so his neighbor's house burns down and he's like, the whole neighborhood's going to rally. Look, we'll help you out. We'll help you rebuild, build. And the guy refused to get any help. He's like, I'll just handle it myself. I don't want to be, like, a burden.

[Phil Labonte]

Exactly.

[Tate Brown]

That's a very American way.

[Jack Posobiec]

American. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

It's like, I'm going to pull myself up on my bootstraps, like, thank you for the help, but, like, I got this. Yep, that's changing. And again, you can argue if that's good or bad, but that is uniquely American.

[Jack Posobiec]

Ebt.

[Tim Pool]

So.

[Jack Posobiec]

So we accept. EBT was printed on the Bad Bunny set. Did you see that? Yeah. On that. On that bodega that they're dancing in front of. It's like that old AOC tweet. It's like, if that were a halftime show show, it actually had the we accept EBT right there.

[Tim Pool]

And then.

[Jack Posobiec]

And then people were saying. And then, like, Nina Turner on Twitter, and a bunch of people were saying, you need to put that. Because that's our culture. Because that's there. It's like. So wait, you're called deficit. You're cheering this. You're. You're. You're celebrating this. Whereas. Whereas, as. As I'm sure Tate knows, that in. In, like, white American culture, typically it's seen, and I think a lot of people, or at least traditionally it used to be seen, that that was shameful. Like, people would say, like, I don't care if we don't have money. Like, we're not getting on food stamps. Like, it's, like, embarrassing. It's shameful.

[Tim Pool]

I say we won't do it. I. I did this video the other day, breaking down why Communism is dumb. It's a slow news day and.

[Phil Labonte]

Wait, really?

[Jack Posobiec]

I've never heard anyone say that before.

[Tim Pool]

Indeed.

[Phil Labonte]

Whoa.

[Tim Pool]

The easiest way to explain it is that the phrase. The phrase from each according to their ability, to each according to their need, posits that people who can produce by working extra hard should, and people who can't produce enough to survive should not. And so the Reason why communism always fails is because the people who can produce in excess have no reason to. And the people who cannot are given food from everybody else.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So you have an expansion of a deficit population, a population that consumes while not producing enough. This is the end. Humanity survives as social being beings. The more humans there are doing work, the. It's an exponential gain on the ease of survival. Communism takes away the incentive to produce, but everybody still must consume lest they die. Yeah, what we have right now is this hybrid. We don't live in a capitalist society. It's called the mixed economy. That's because around half the country is 50, 50 socialist, communist versus capitalist. People say it's always a capitalist country. No, it's not. It's a, it's a, it's a crony capitalist. It's a. No, no, we're literally called the mixed economy because half our money goes to social services and half our money is kept. The problem with that is you are. We, we have built a, a country with a large deficit population. They don't produce as much as they consume. Sooner or later in that system, albeit in a mixed economy, it'll go slower than a communist country. The people who do produce eventually start giving up and then there is no excess. So now you only have people producing at, at cost, people at deficit. You get revolution, you get chaos.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, well that's what you see like every time in the U.N. they have these like art. They don't have any implications, but they're like, should food be a human right? The United States always votes no because we're just saying like, no, you're not entitled to someone else's labor. That's demonic. That's a positive right. And a positive right means you're entitled to someone's labor because again, someone has to produce that food. And so if that's a human right, if food is a human right, that means that if your human rights being infringed on, then you could put the gun to someone and say, give me some food. So it's like at every level, it's just.

[Jack Posobiec]

This is why, this is why these systems again, you know, were created for certain people in certain places at certain times. And we're, we're now learning that they can't just be applied across the board to everyone. It doesn't work. People will. You have hacker cultures like Tim was talking about earlier. You have cultures that, that want the socialism there. It's like a gimme, gimme, gimme kind of culture. You have cultures where they, they Put.

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[Jack Posobiec]

In front of truth. They. They will lie, they will cheat, et cetera, agricultures. And you know that they'll say that they'll. They'll blend the. They'll use the language of saying this is a right, right to feel that they're entitled to whatever it is they want.

[Tate Brown]

That's what CIS center for Immigration Studies. They just combed through the census data and they found that the majority of foreign born Americans are on some form of welfare.

[Tim Pool]

I. I have a right to that jacket that, you know, Jack is wearing. So this clothing. I believe I have a gun somewhere.

[Jack Posobiec]

Jack, but however, Tim, my name is on it right there.

[Tim Pool]

I have a right to promo code poso.

[Tate Brown]

Walking in body.

[Tim Pool]

In fact, I say a couple of pillows to get this jacket. Everybody has a right to use promo code poso.

[Jack Posobiec]

Whoa. Well, right. And a duty, by the way. So true patriotic duty patriots use promo code poso. You know whose promo code's on you? Communists.

[Tim Pool]

All right, everybody, we're gonna go to the. We're gonna go to the super chats and Rumble rants before the uncensored portion of the show. Before we do, head over to timcast.com click join us and get in that Discord server. We got a big community of tens of thousands of people. They are hanging out. They are friends. Community is our strength. These leftists got these big networks. We don't need to create any weird police infringing crime networks like they have. But community is still powerful because when disaster strikes, an emergency strikes. You need to know who your friends are, where they are. And there's a support network. It's more than that. You guys share ideas. You guys call into the uncensored portion of the show exclusively on Rumble Premium. As a Discord member, you help support the work that we do. And you're deeply involved. Involved. We've got a bunch of stuff in the works. Our coffee shop should be opening very soon. No kidding. Like legit. We're having one of Our final walkthroughs. Very excited. And that means our social club events will be coming up very soon as well. Very, very excited. At the same time, I mean this kind of in a weird way as a promo, but it is, our security issues have not been abated and it's, it's massively stressful and we are admittedly hanging by a thread. But we're doing everything we can to keep things going. So if you support that work that, that we do and you want to help us to continue doing it. Tim cast.com join our, join our Discord community. I'm going to tell you guys right now the cost of security. Jack knows this. It's like if, if we were to try and do full standard security, we need three to five million dollars. Yeah, it's, it's, it's bonkers.

[Jack Posobiec]

People have no idea.

[Tim Pool]

They have no idea. One 24 hour rotation is 700 grand a year.

[Jack Posobiec]

Which, and you know, not to get into it too much, but at, at, at Turning Point's main headquarters, you know, when, when Charlie was murdered, we were actually in the process of putting up finally a full security gate and fencing and perimeter with like a motorized gate and all the rest of it. And there is, there is now 247 security.

[Tim Pool]

So I will just stress this again. You know, the cost that you guys have now, especially now with all the stupid insanity, conspiracy theories. God, it's bonkers.

[Phil Labonte]

Dude.

[Tim Pool]

We, we're going over these numbers and a single. The low end, the low end. And this is because of insurance and it's because you need to understand one, one security guy. It's not that you have one security guy for 24 hours. No, you have four people per day. Right. Because of shift overlap. Because you can't have gaps in your security. Now imagine you've got a multi building, you know, media company with several shows and you need four or five people per day, 24 hours for maximum security after someone shot at your property. It's nuts. That's why we went to Florida and we were trying to work something out and figure out if there was a way to do a bigger deal with, with rumble and do something. We don't know what's going on with that. I don't know if it's gonna happen and we're still navigating this but you know, full disclosure, full transparency, it's, it's bonkers. And right now we actually, we have, let me just say we have maximum security and it is a doozy. It is so timcast.com support the work that we do by joining the Discord community and making sure it's possible. All right, let's grab some rumble rants and chats. We got perceptual Jonathan. He says poso couldn't even get Creed. What's the point of a halftime show? Great job putting the show together, Jack. Well, we did go over it next year.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, I mean, it's. It's when we announced, you know, we. I didn't even look at tour dates and things like that. And. And I have to follow the law. There's, like, legal stuff I gotta deal with. We need lawyers. I. I have. And by the way, the lawyers have been on me, like, you know. You know, we couldn't even say the word super bowl in the run up to it. Do you know that?

[Phil Labonte]

Really?

[Jack Posobiec]

Because they would consider that using their trademark.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

In promotion of our show, and therefore we could. Trademark infringement, you know, you're. That. That's a liability. They're like. It's like everything. I'm like, am I allowed to say my name? Am I allowed, like.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it's.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's wild. It's wild.

[Tim Pool]

Josh, 2371, says, I'm going to visit Tokyo, Japan next year. Do's and don'ts and. And suggestion for sightseeing. Do find a small hole in the wall karaoke bar and sing songs with some drunk Japanese locals. I recommend it.

[Jack Posobiec]

Do not do what that one Tick Tock guy was doing and run around and harassing people on the subway. Johnny Somali.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Such a good name.

[Jack Posobiec]

Run around and. And blasting people like that. Because he went to jail.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Be respectful. Japan's awesome. It's. It's one of the. It's one of my favorites. Probably my favorite country that's not the U.S. like, it's great.

[Tate Brown]

So it's great.

[Jack Posobiec]

Have you been to Poland? Pardon me, but have you been to Poland? Been in Poland?

[Phil Labonte]

One time I went to War Claw. We played there.

[Tim Pool]

Tokyo is massive.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

You're not prepared. I think the biggest I've ever been to is Bangkok. I think Bangkok is. It's like the biggest urban metro.

[Tate Brown]

No, Tokyo was the biggest until very recently. Jakarta just overtook.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, did it really?

[Tate Brown]

Yeah, like, very recently.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So I've been to Tokyo.

[Tate Brown]

Ever produced nothing.

[Tim Pool]

Tokyo is awesome. I love Tokyo, man.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Back I went to Fukushu. Fukushima as well.

[Tate Brown]

The crazy thing with Tokyo, one thing you have to consider, it's very interesting, is there's like no trash cans anywhere. So whenever you like.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, that's right.

[Tate Brown]

You need to carry it with.

[Jack Posobiec]

You need like a little bag.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. Bring like a little bag with you, right? Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

What time is it in Tokyo right now?

[Tate Brown]

It's crunch.

[Jack Posobiec]

12 hour. 12 or 13 hours.

[Tate Brown]

It's always crunch.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's morning. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So when we. When we relocate to Tokyo, then we'll be doing the show at 8am Love.

[Tate Brown]

A serious edge.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I mean, I. I lived in Shanghai for two years. It's sim similar size wise, but I feel like Tokyo is.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, how weird.

[Jack Posobiec]

More is more compact than Shanghai. Shanghai. A lot of like the downtown is like wider streets, broader avenues.

[Tim Pool]

We would do Tim cast IRL first thing in the morning and then I would record my morning segments at night. At night.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

If we went to like a week before Goon Nation.

[Tim Pool]

Goon Nation. Yeah. We got to work that out. We got to work out Goon Nation. Japan's got a weird.

[Tate Brown]

You go to Osaka, my favorite thing. One of my favorite places I've ever been. And I would say this is actually kind of a religious pilgrimage in a way. If you go to Osaka, they have the. The Drunken Clam from Family Guy. Some guy just got. He got really into Family Guy and he opened a bar on like the fifth floor of a building called Drunken Clam. And it's amazing. Go in there. It's just pictures of Peter Griffin just like glued to the wall and stuff. It's a beautiful. You should go there.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's wonderful.

[Tim Pool]

All right. We got Picora Rod. He says, I used call she for the first time since I saw they were a sponsor. It. It really is crazy how if you put money on things you're knowledgeable about, it feels like printing money. That's what I'm saying. Dude. Dude, we. The Trump Bad Bunny thing actually went up and I'm gonna take credit for that. Will Trump say Bad Bunny this month? You want to pull this up? Actually, the odds increased to from the other day. So look at this. There's Tim Guest irl. I take full credit for that. The odds improved from it dropped down in the day to 24 and then it went back up later.

[Phil Labonte]

34 mo.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I think. I still think he says it. I still think bad. I think. No, I. I could see. Cuz I could see somebody asking him about it. You notice Bad Bunny's been real quiet this week.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he deleted his Instagram too.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, deleted the Instagram. You know, just. Just no statements, no interviews. No. The buzz, right? The buzz around it is weird.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

And.

[Jack Posobiec]

And you know, people, funny enough, I was at the. So we. And it Was pre. Scheduled. It wasn't like a thing. I was at the Hispanic Prosperity Gala last night. Had a little, little, little dance with James o' Keefe that. You guys were getting pretty violent. We're getting down. You know, God forbid a couple of white boys have a little motion. You know, the left hates that and the left hates that. And, you know, we had. So Nacho, who is an incredibly famous Venezuelan singer, got up and just crushed it. Amazing. And I was, I was. So. They were all coming up to me, and we're getting asked by media. I was getting asked about Bad Bunny and everything. And I was talking to everyone who was there. So, like, what did you guys think? And I had people coming up to me saying, like, from Puerto Rico, saying, like, don't. Don't judge us by him. Like, we're, we're not like that. We actually love America. We. We love being a part of America, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Well, America gives them what, like $100 billion a year?

[Tate Brown]

I'd love it, too. It's with 8 to 1 federal dollars.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and, and, and look, you should.

[Tim Pool]

Move there as a, as no income tax.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. And as a Navy officer. Right. You know, I look at it from the geostrategic perspective that, you know, Puerto Rico gives you that access to the Caribbean. It gives you those basing rights. You don't have to worry about, you know, treaties or anything. Same with Guam in the Philippines.

[Tate Brown]

We could still keep the Virgin Islands, though.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yes. The same with Guam. Yeah, but, Porter, you've already got all the infrastructure there. It's. It's larger. It's got a larger base.

[Tate Brown]

I want to kind of lose.

[Jack Posobiec]

No, it's, it's like, it's like. Yeah, but, but they were, they were legitimately saying, like, he's. He's an embarrassment.

[Tate Brown]

I think, I think Tony Hinchcliffe has been extremely vindicated for his little joke at the Trump.

[Tim Pool]

But his joke was always right.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

He was commenting on the fact that they have overflowing landfills.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And that's a well known thing. And they attacked him for it. And then later on, he was like, am I the only one who knows that in the news they're talking about their landfill problems? That was the joke.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah. I have a really good friend. He's a normie. He's Puerto Rican. And when he first saw that, like, oh, a comedian at the Trump rally was mocking Puerto Rico, he's like, that's terrible. Da, da, da, da, da. And then he watched the joke and he's like, yeah, that's Broadly true. So, Tony Hinchcliffe, total vindication.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he was.

[Tim Pool]

And they use the Puerto Rican peso, so in Puerto Rico, they don't. I'm kidding.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh, do they?

[Tim Pool]

No, no, it was US Dollar.

[Jack Posobiec]

I was there that night at msg.

[Tim Pool]

Really?

[Jack Posobiec]

I remember when he gave. When he said the joke, by the way. The whole, the whole crowd was like, oh, no.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, hey, guys, guys, guys. So yesterday, the volume for Will. Bad Bunny, say. Will Trump say Bad Bunny? Wasn't it. Wasn't it 200,000 or something? Or was it like 280,000? I don't know. It's gone up to 400,000 since we did the show, and that's all that matters. You see, I haven't. I haven't wagered anything. My cash is still the same. I am not going to wager on this. My question was just like, oh, is it 32% now? Is this changing in real time? Jack, weren't you saying you were going to ask the President to say the phrase Bad Bunny for no reason?

[Jack Posobiec]

I did not say that. I did. Certainly did not call him on his personal, private cell phone number and ask him. No, I will say I was trying, you know, to see if we could get him to tweet about, you know, know, to like, comment on our show. But of course, you know, which hasn't come up yet. I'm told that. I was told that they were going to play it on the plane at one point when he was flying up. I don't know if that ever actually happened.

[Tim Pool]

I'm going to, I'm going to say this. I genuinely believe Trump will say Bad Bunny.

[Jack Posobiec]

I think he will, too.

[Tim Pool]

It's surprising to me that it's actually only at 33% right now. It did go up quite a bit since we did the show. But I want to stress this. I'm not telling anybody to buy these shares. Do not take this advice. I have no guarantee it's going to happen. But the fact is Trump hasn't made a major comment on the Turning Point halftime show, which was massive to 45, 40, 50 million people. TRUMP is going to see that. Trump wants to be involved with his base. He wants to shout these things out to show that he's active. I think there's a high, a high likelihood that he does address Turning Points halftime show. In doing so, he's going to mention Bad Bunny because that was the conflict.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's, it's, it's just. It's just been so much in the news. It's. So even though you know, even though it's not a Trump. Trump thing. Right. It's. It's very. It's. It's sort of got the DNA, the fingerprints, if you will, of. Of maga, Americanism, globalism, all of these things tied together. Obviously, he's, you know, close with Kid Rock, their friends.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. So, I mean, what happens if Kid Rock pops over to the. By the White House and asks him, like, hey, did you see my show? And he's hanging out.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Trump's gonna say bad bunny. That's why I think it's crazy. They're giving it a 33. It's based on what people are wagering on. And people are wagering, no, he won't. Even though he already truthed about the show.

[Tate Brown]

So you're saying they're selling dollars for 30.

[Tim Pool]

He didn't say bad Bunny. He talked about the halftime show. That's why I think it's just crazy how low it is. Originally, it was a lot higher. Before the super bowl, It was Super 85, and it's dropped down. That's nuts to me. So I don't know, man. Don't. Don't listen to me. Don't buy any of this stuff. Don't wager on stuff, because I don't know what's going to happen. I just think these odds are weird. Anyway, let's grab some more of these. These rants, see what we got going on. On nny, says, tate, stop slacking and get back on for daily at noon. I told Serge I can't answer his questions until you tell me what to think, dude.

[Tate Brown]

Sergio, I will tell you what to think if you t at noon Talk today. It was great. We had Lisa on. Lisa was the guest. We talked about women. The women are out of control.

[Phil Labonte]

They are.

[Tim Pool]

Lisa is like the spiciest person at tim cast we have.

[Tate Brown]

She really is.

[Tim Pool]

We have to keep telling her to stop saying to kill people. People. She's great. Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

I was like, lisa, we can't kill every woman. That's not. That's not a. That's not.

[Tim Pool]

I can't say that on the show.

[Tate Brown]

Not gonna play in Peoria. I had some rumble, so you can say whatever you want, I guess, but it's a good pitch. Tune in noon live for Lisa's proposals and what to do with the wq. The woman question. It's very interesting. Some of her thoughts, right?

[Tim Pool]

We love Lisa prime, says Phil. What is the AI agent? I want to do a fake news show like IRL with characters, mythical creatures from my characters in Books and ttrpg. Modern mythical DM me at the dose.

[Phil Labonte]

Of prime and X. Yeah, it's a Mortbot.

[Tate Brown]

Are they. Is he calling us creatures?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, they're basically mini LLMs you run on your own computers. And they'll. They'll. You can tell it like, hey, I'm. I'm having. I need food reservations for a nice restaurant. Find me a good place to eat. I gotta go to work. But tell me when you find it, and then you'll come back home, and it'll be like, I got your reservations at the steakhouse at this time. Crazy. Crazy.

[Jack Posobiec]

If they can. If they can. Honestly, if they can get that right for, like, hotels, flights, that kind of thing.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Jack Posobiec]

Amazing.

[Tim Pool]

They will.

[Phil Labonte]

The cost of. Of keeping an account where. I think it's chat. GPT or whoever. Whoever it is, the cost of having an account is like 200 bucks a month. And the people that use these generally use them for their work. And they're like. It makes me so efficient that. That it's. It's totally worth.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's make one. It's basically anthropic.

[Jack Posobiec]

Quick.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Or open AI Using their keys. Wow, dude.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I'm looking at a Mac Mini that I can run. Getting a Mac Mini just for.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, why don't we get one here?

[Phil Labonte]

You want to get one here?

[Tim Pool]

We got servers and stuff. Why don't we get a little. Little guy, like 500 bucks. Let's do it. Let's do it.

[Tate Brown]

We're getting a little high.

[Tim Pool]

We're gonna get a Moltbot. We'll have our own internal Tim Cast. Hell. And then we're gonna go in, and he's gonna gas us. He's. Phil's gonna be like, the door's locked. And it's gonna be like, I'm sorry, Phil, I can't let you do. You can.

[Phil Labonte]

It'll cut. Like, you can set it up so it can call you.

[Tim Pool]

Yo, look at. Look at the odds on him saying bad money just going up because we're talking about it in there. It's free money, man. It's free money. It's at 35 already. I'm telling you guys not to buy. I'm not actually. I'm not telling you to do anything. Just don't listen to me. I'm not saying he will or won't.

[Tate Brown]

If you're gonna buy, just turn a stream off. Just turn it on.

[Jack Posobiec]

But.

[Tim Pool]

But I do think it's interesting too, because I'll just say this. It's funny that we're addressing it in the fact that. That Jack is literally saying he helps. You know, Trump comments on the TP USA halftime show.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean.

[Jack Posobiec]

I mean, it just. It's something that, you know, I think that he would do.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

And, you know, I put it this way. You know, when he sees something put on big numbers like that, and it's. It's associated with, you know, quote, unquote, people he views as like, his guys, his side.

[Tim Pool]

Not. Not only that, the type of thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

He talks about all the time.

[Tate Brown]

I did very well with Hispanics, by the way.

[Tim Pool]

Talking also, about a year from now, Trump has an opportunity. Does he want to be involved in something that got such massive play? He didn't go to the Super Bowl.

[Jack Posobiec]

He did not.

[Tim Pool]

And he presidents, you know, was it. They usually don't. Right. But he went last year. Is that what it was?

[Jack Posobiec]

I believe he did, yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Well, because this year was in San Francisco.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Here's the opportunity for him to go somewhere to massive fanfare and celebration and cheers to 50 million viewers is.

[Tate Brown]

Where is it next year?

[Tim Pool]

You know? Oh, it just went down. It went down super.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh.

[Tim Pool]

As soon as I said don't do it, people are like, I'm out, guys. Don't listen to me. I'm not giving you financial advice. I can't tell you what'll happen.

[Phil Labonte]

No, this is entertainment advice.

[Tim Pool]

This is it. And pure entertainment. All right, let's see what we got here. Let's see. Someone says ice and little Mogadishu. New game.

[Tate Brown]

2027 in Englewood, California. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Disgruntled vet says Tom McDonald should have been at your halftime to do his Charlie Kirk song at minimum. That would have been an easy win. I think maybe you guys had Tom McDonald next year, you know.

[Tate Brown]

Yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

I get again, you know, with a lot of this stuff, it. It. There are so many people that I wish could have been there.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, Tom certainly be one of them. And a lot of this stuff, again, it just. It just comes down to scheduling. It comes down to, in some cases, contracts, licenses. It's. I know that's kind of sounds like posters going corporate. It's like. No, but literally. And Phil, you get this. There are times where even the art. I'm not saying that this would have a Tom. I'm just saying that there are times where an artist wants to do something and just can't.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep, absolutely. That's a very, very normal thing. Like, I'd love to go and play the show, but we just can't. There's a Couple shows that we got offered in the fall that we were, we were like, oh. They were like, you want to do these? And I was like, we just can't just because they're scheduling stuff that we got planned.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, even, Even with venues, right? So to do something like this, like, it's not just the day of. You need to put on something like this. Or certainly if we did a festival, you need a week. And so you have to find a big venue that has a week open, which typically those places get booked a year in advance. Charlie used to do this all the time. He'd be like, oh, let's do this thing over here. And we have to be like, Charlie, you.

[Phil Labonte]

You can't just. Just, yeah.

[Jack Posobiec]

Up and do that.

[Phil Labonte]

You're not making reservations at the. You know, it's not like a hotel reservation.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, right.

[Phil Labonte]

So.

[Tim Pool]

All right. We got this from Austin Shearer. He says, fellas, using my first ever super chat to announce the white wife and I just came home with our first baby yesterday. Little Liliana.

[Phil Labonte]

Congratulations.

[Tate Brown]

Welcome to the world, little patriot. A lot of work to do. Did you. You missed the. You missed the halftime show. You're late.

[Jack Posobiec]

Oh, wait, but, but eligible for Trump account.

[Tate Brown]

Yes. Yeah, let's go.

[Tim Pool]

That's a, That's a massively important thing.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, I mean, they're like, it's like an IRA for kids, basically. And. But you get it when you sign up, you get a thousand dollars just deposited like that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tate Brown]

Wow.

[Jack Posobiec]

Literally for free.

[Phil Labonte]

And it. One of the good things or one of the best things about it, in my opinion, is it gives young pe. It will give young people that are, you know, 18, 19, 20, whatever. It'll give them some kind of buy in to the capitalist system. Right now there's young people that don't have anything and they're like, well, why do I care about capitalism? Why do I care about property rights? I don't. I don't own anything. Well, if you're 18 years old and you got 50 grand or 100 grand or whatever it ends up turning into, then you're going to care about capital because you actually have a stake in it. You know, it's like, if you can get a whole generation of young people that have some kind of. Some kind of buy in, that's going to be a very good thing for the United States of America, bro.

[Tim Pool]

The bad bunny odds have jumped to from what. What was it at when we started? It was. It was 20 something. It was 20, 28. It's at 38. It went up 10% since we've done this show. The, the, the real point I wanted to convey is the absurdity of affecting prediction odds. Like I talked about this yesterday. If a boxing match was going to happen, I can't do anything about that. I can say, I hope, you know, Jake Paul wins or whatever. It's weird that I could be like, Jack Pasoic came on my show and mentioned he was hoping Trump would comment on his show. And also people are like buying on these.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm buying that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's wild, it's weird. Odds are going down. So you can see like the $500 wager. You can see the amount of you win is going down because more people are, are believing he's going to say it. All right, here we go. Joshua P. Flowers says, my friend in the area says the cartel does that all the time, but this is the first time they issued a no fly zone. Something is different or something is seriously wrong. The drones, that's what I was saying on my 4pm show that they wouldn't do something so dramatic unless it was very serious. If it was a false flag, they would have made it sound more serious. So it sounds to me like something very major happened and they don't want word to get out as to what the cartels did or could it be.

[Jack Posobiec]

And this just flip side, it's the same type of drones that happen. But we were, and I don't have any sourcing on this, it's just me speculating what if we were testing a weapon system or something like an anti drone system and well, apparently they were and we didn't want any planes to be, you know, in the vicinity just in case something went wrong.

[Tim Pool]

So one theory, and we were told this is not true, is that the DoD wanted to test, Dow wanted to test a high powered directed energy weapon on Mexican cartel drones. And the FAA was like, are you nuts?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tim Pool]

We've got planes.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah, we got it.

[Tim Pool]

So it was the FAA that did the notam, I believe. And it was apparently an FU to the Dow being like, guys, you cannot launch laser beams near our airports reports. I'm told this is not correct though. Then they put out a report saying that the Dow shot a balloon with a laser. That's all. I'm told none of this is correct. I'm told the cartel story is what happened. And the most recent reporting still says it was cartel drones. And guys, honestly, we know the cartel has been launching these drones. The New York Times reported this for months they've been flying Thousands it's like 20,000 drone flights or something. Some insane amount. So I think it's just more serious, and they don't want to let on exactly how serious it was.

[Jack Posobiec]

It's actually just. It's actually just Greg Bovino. They. They sent him down there with a laser gun.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. All right, let's see what we got going on.

[Jack Posobiec]

That guy. Love. Love Bovino. Patriot Bovino.

[Tim Pool]

Gribly Bear says, I tried turning Tate's use of the phrase fellow patriots into a drinking game. I ended up blowing out my liver because he overuses the phrase to the point where it sounds like he's virtue signaling.

[Phil Labonte]

I do not.

[Tate Brown]

I do not overuse. Use it. But, yes, I am virtue signaling, bro.

[Tim Pool]

The bad Bunny thinks the 40% now.

[Tate Brown]

Virtue signaling is awesome. I signal my virtues every day at.

[Tim Pool]

12Pm what if I said right now, I'm going to ask Jack to tell the president not to say bad bunny.

[Jack Posobiec]

Mr. President, please, please do not say it.

[Tate Brown]

I'm gonna say it.

[Tim Pool]

Dude. I just think. I think the whole prediction market stuff is just so crazy.

[Jack Posobiec]

Do not come.

[Tate Brown]

Do not.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, did you see this one, Jack? Will the US confirm the aliens exist before 2027? 14% chance, 1.8 million. Okay. The answer is no. If you put $10,000 in, there's a.

[Tate Brown]

Correct answer to this question, you will.

[Tim Pool]

Get back a thousand. You're getting a 13% margin. 13% interest rate, effectively. So my attitude is like, why should I put my money in the bank when I can put it in shares of. No, the US Will not confirm the existence of aliens and get back a higher percentage.

[Tate Brown]

Can't you just bet on, like, civilization ending instances and just make. Because it's like, if this were.

[Tim Pool]

Who Needs Money?

[Jack Posobiec]

And. Yeah, like, if this is. It's so funny because we actually just watched the original War of the Worlds the other day, showed it to my kids.

[Tate Brown]

I loved it. I don't think I'd be. If there was aliens coming to Earth, I don't think I'd be like, where's my ten grand?

[Tim Pool]

I wonder what my wife would say if I was like, honey, I just put $400,000 into a great investment. It's no. The US will not confirm the existence of aliens shares. And at the end of the year, we get back 38, 000. Yeah, she's gonna be, like, gonna be great. She's gonna be, like, very smart. It's an excellent investment. Thank you.

[Tate Brown]

Thank you.

[Tim Pool]

I have to. I have to be honest. I actually don't think based on the stocks That I have. I'm pretty sure my stocks will beat.

[Phil Labonte]

This, will beat that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, absolutely. I'm getting so, like, really? I've got. I've got Texas, I got some tech stocks, and I've got like, Tesla, and I've got some graphene stuff. And they performed very, very well. And I think I'm going to beat. This is 9%, though. 31,000. If you did 300, you'll get back an 11% return. This is the weirdest thing imaginable to me. It's like, guys, I'm not telling you what to do. It's not a financial advice. I'm just pointing out there is a zero percent chance the US Will confirm the existence of aliens. Yep. Zero. Now zero.

[Tate Brown]

So if you. If you buy. This is just totally me not knowing anything. If you buy. No. Can you sell that before.

[Jack Posobiec]

Yep.

[Tate Brown]

So then as soon as you make a few bucks, you just sell.

[Tim Pool]

That's the thing about prediction markets. You can buy a share and then if it increases the. No increases to 95%, you now sell it a profit before it even concludes. Yep.

[Tate Brown]

Oh, man.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Is what. There's a zero percent chance.

[Tate Brown]

Dude. Evening.

[Tim Pool]

Anyway, guys, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button, share the show. Stay tuned. It's gonna [e-mail] timcast IRL sign up. Come hang out. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Jack, do you want to shout anything out?

[Jack Posobiec]

Look, I just say, you know, because I haven't really said this incredible success of the show that's thanks to the people, this audience, people on YouTube, the Patriots out there. But ultimately, this is God's grace and we're all incredibly humbled by it. This wasn't, you know, it's just stupid tweet by me. And then coming on when you were out in Phoenix and we all chatted about it, you know, a couple of months ago, and it just took on a life of its own. And that's how I know that that's not me that's doing that. That's God. And so, you know, go to church, get married, have babies. Like Charlie would say, check out Turning Point. And if you. If you think this was good after just a couple of months of planning, wait till you see what we can do with 12 months.

[Tate Brown]

Dude, I'm fired the frick up right now. Follow me on X and Instagram @realtape Brown. Come hang out tomorrow. I'll signal my virtues to everybody. At noon, I have good virtues, so I'm happy to signal them. So come hang out in Rumble. Tim cast on Rumble tomorrow noon. See you there.

[Phil Labonte]

I am Phil that Remains on Twix the band is all that Remains. We're going on tour the this spring with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. We're starting in Albany on the 29th of April, so go to all that remainsonline.com you can get your tickets, you can get your VIP packages. I think there's still some left for those. You can check out all that Remains the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[Tim Pool]

We will see you [e-mail] Timcast IRL thanks for hanging out.

[Jack Posobiec]

SA.

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