This is THE END of WESTERN CIVILIZATION w/ Michael McCarthy

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Episode: "This is THE END of WESTERN CIVILIZATION w/ Michael McCarthy"

Date: July 3, 2026
Host: Tim Pool
Guest: Michael McCarthy, Irish political commentator

EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode addresses the escalating crisis of mass migration, cultural erosion, and the perceived decline of Western civilization, with a particular focus on Ireland and Europe as mirrors for current American anxieties. Tim Pool and guest Michael McCarthy dissect recent violent incidents attributed to migrants, the viral popularity of vigilante justice as cultural catharsis, state and media complicity, collapsing birthrates, and the ideological forces driving the West toward demographic and cultural transformation. The discussion is candid, provocative, and deeply concerned about the future of national identity, social cohesion, and personal agency in the face of elite-driven globalism.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. The Migrant Crisis in Europe and Ireland

• Recent brutal attack in Ireland triggers riots; mirrored by similar events across Europe, linked to growing migrant crime (00:00–03:12).
• Viral vigilante films (e.g., "Citizen Vigilante") reflect popular frustration with crime and institutional inaction; censorship of such media in Europe amplifies public interest (00:45–02:30).
• Political momentum in the US (Trump) and Europe tied directly to these issues (01:20–02:05).

2. State-Funded Media and Propaganda

• Irish media is overwhelmingly funded by the state via commissions set up since 2023 (04:45–06:38).
  • Result: Outlets are financially beholden, reluctant to counter government orthodoxy.
  • Critical, independent outlets are ostracized by politicians (e.g., Gript being shunned) (06:08–07:19).

3. Personal Risks for Dissent & Government Suppression

• McCarthy faces constant social media threats, police reports, and political pressure (07:36–08:47).
• Viral investigative posts are not officially recognized by government, but cause embarrassment for officials (09:20–10:09).

4. Confounded Irish Identity & Nationalism

• Historically nationalist parties like Sinn Féin now champion mass migration, contrary to past ethos (12:16–15:45).

  • Shift from nationalist to leftist, "woke" alignment over decades.
  • Public opinion remains skeptical of open borders, but leadership is dismissive (15:40–16:48).

• American misconceptions about Irish vs. Northern Irish identity and historical context (10:35–11:53).

• Sectarian strife from 400-year-old Scottish Presbyterians underpins failure of historical multicultural integration (18:46–20:13, 24:38–25:10).

5. Parallels in the US: Dearborn, MI & Demographic Anxiety

• US cities like Dearborn, MI seen as examples of enclave formation and struggles with assimilation and law (21:00–22:42).
• Fear of voting power shifting permanently via population replacement: “Once the dam has broken...you will lose voting power every year you can never get back.” (23:18–23:46, Pool)

6. Civic vs. Ethnic Nationalism & The Limits of Integration

• Concepts of nationality and identity manipulated for political ends: “Anybody could be Irish.” (28:00)
• Left in Ireland will deny Irishness to diaspora, but bestow it on recent migrants (28:32).

Memorable Quote:

"It’s so disrespectful for the Japanese if I walked around and said I’m Japanese. They’d be like, ‘No, you’re not, and you never will be.' But in Ireland, we get told ‘Anyone can be Irish.’"
— Michael McCarthy [29:08]

7. Collapse of Birthrates and Familial Structures

• Ireland’s birthrate crashed (from e.g. 11 siblings in one generation to none in another) due to economic precarity and social incentives (56:04–57:02).
• Societal pressure and media push women away from motherhood, toward “girl boss” careers, fueling demographic crisis (64:10–67:48).

Notable Exchange:

"Women aren’t being adequately informed by our societies that the best age to have a child is probably 22."
— Tim Pool [64:49]

"A lot of women would be much happier if they were moms, if they were with their kids at home...but our culture tells them otherwise."
— Michael McCarthy [67:21]

8. Engineered Social Change: Conspiracy or Accident?

• Discussion of whether demographic collapse and mass migration are byproducts of globalization/greed or deliberate plans to erase Western national/cultural identity (36:23–38:03).
• Role of NGOs profiting from mass immigration and accusations of intentional destabilization (41:24–43:18).

9. Cultural Homogenization & The Death of Distinctiveness

• Globalism threatens unique cultures by blending everything into “lowest common denominator nonsense”—loss of culinary, linguistic, and traditional variety (112:57–118:32).

Quote:

"When you mix all the paint colors together...you get a sludge. The rainbow is beautiful for the differences. Once you blend it all, it’s just gray."
— Tim Pool [117:52]

10. Race, Genetics, and Social Outcomes (Contentious)

• Hosts argue that observable differences (height, culture, IQ) reflect genetics and inform social structures (91:05–98:34).
  • Citing "The Bell Curve", IQ and social mobility discussed as inheritable, population-wide patterns.
  • Pool: “I’m not interested in denying reality for the purpose of politics.” (98:02)

11. Ireland's Political Homelessness and Paths Forward

• Despite rising public frustration, Ireland lacks a viable anti-mass migration party (“politically homeless”) (120:01–120:34).
• McCarthy’s proposal: Reduce migration, enforce assimilation, expel criminal foreigners, prioritize families; slow, measured demographic reversal (101:31–103:19).

12. Technology, AI, and Ideological Manipulation

• AI reflects and amplifies popular (and woke) biases; danger of “model collapse” as AIs train on themselves (86:53–88:34).
• Free speech widened as a side effect of Elon Musk’s business interest in AI datasets, not purely ideological (80:05–83:00).

13. Optimism and Call to Action

• McCarthy maintains optimism, noting rapid change in public opinion over the last two years—people becoming more willing to challenge orthodoxy (125:19–125:37).
• Encourages political engagement, “get involved, do something,” to influence the future (124:19–125:03).

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MEMORABLE MOMENTS & QUOTES (By Timestamp)

• “The mainstream news would be a propaganda wing of just...elite society a lot of the time.”
  — Michael McCarthy [04:34]

• “All we need to do...is turn [the trend] around and move it in a direction where Irish people are increasing by percent.”
  — Michael McCarthy [101:31]

• “Ireland—it's not even available [homeownership]. The government is reaching into [young people's] pockets, handing it to already wealthy people who own these hotels and say, ‘just house foreigners there.’”
  — Michael McCarthy [55:29]

• “If you get to that tipping point where the plurality of voters are saying more migrants...You will lose voting power every year you can never get back. Ten, twenty years later...it’s just 80–90% migrants saying, ‘we are a different nation from you.’”
  — Tim Pool [23:30]

• “It's happened in Ireland, it's happened in America, it's happened everywhere else...same solutions. Unless somebody said, ‘we're going to do this.’”
  — Tim Pool [123:36]

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IMPORTANT SEGMENTS & TIMESTAMPS

• [00:00–03:00] – Irish migrant violence and viral “Citizen Vigilante”.
• [04:50–06:30] – State funding of Irish media, parallels with US/NPR.
• [12:15–16:48] – Sinn Féin’s transformation; Irish confusion over national identity.
• [18:46–24:38] – "Troubles," ethnic division, lasting problems from earlier migration.
• [36:23–38:03] – Did elites intentionally engineer demographic decline?
• [41:24–43:18] – Profit motive of NGOs in perpetuating immigration and “racism”.
• [55:29–58:19] – Government policy, housing crisis, and birthrate collapse.
• [64:10–67:48] – The social reprogramming of women; birthrate and identity crisis.
• [80:05–83:00, 86:53–88:34] – AI, social media, and manipulated realities.
• [101:31–103:19] – Path forward: Demographic reversal, assimilation, policy ideas.
• [117:52] – Global monoculture vs. diverse nations/metaphor of paint colors.

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CONCLUSION

This episode is a sweeping, often uneasy exploration of the matrix of migration, media, demography, and power transforming the West. It draws poignant historical parallels, raises uncomfortable questions about identity, governance, and technology’s role in enforced conformity, and wrestles with what it means—to be Irish, American, or simply to belong somewhere. The growing unrest in Ireland serves as a bellwether for the fate of Western nations at large, as Pool and McCarthy urge their audience to reject passivity, engage politically, and defend the fading lines between nations, cultures, and peoples.

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For listeners seeking in-depth, uncensored discussion of migration, national identity, and Western crisis, this episode delivers a raw and essential perspective.

Transcript

[A]

Recently in Ireland, there was a very serious attack on a man, left him scarred, brutally injured, and this triggered riots. The riots that we saw in Ireland are not unique because we see them all across Europe as there's a wave of migrant crime. And interestingly enough, we get this, I guess you call it a B movie, citizen vigilante going viral about a man who's finally fed up with corrupt judges, police officers, and generally just the crime, so he decides to seek out justice. Now, this film was banned in Germany, or I would say they wouldn't give it a rating because it was encouraging violence against migrants. So Elon Musk on X posted it for free, and now there's rumors. Oh, we got to do a second. You got to do a sequel. It's the big return of Armie Hammer. The question is, why is there so much interest in this B film showing a guy just kind of snapping and saying, I'm going to get justice for these people? It's because there is a very serious problem we have seen in the United States is invigorated people to vote for Donald Trump and support his administration on the issue of immigration. And we see something similar in Europe. And there are a lot of questions about why this has been happening. And of course, there are a lot of theories. Now, we here in America, you guys watch Tim Cast iro, we can talk to you about it all day and night because we're from here. But to better understand what's happening in Europe and particularly Ireland, we're gonna be talking with a gentleman here who can explain this in greater detail. Plus, I have a million one questions about how does Ireland come to this point, of all places, with such a strong, I guess, nationalist identity? Considering the history, it's very interesting to see we're at a point where migrants are being brought in. We're seeing this crime, and it seems the government isn't doing anything to stop it, but rather encourage it. So on this special episode of Tim Cast Iral, I hope you guys are enjoying the holiday weekend and having a good time. We're gonna get into the nitty gritty of what's currently happening in Europe and talk about the issues that affects us as well as it pertains to immigration. Before we get started, guys, head over to timcast.com click join us. Get in the discord, support the work that we do. This is not possible unless you guys stand up, be the change you want to see in the world, and join our community as a member. You make this show possible. It helps fund all of the people who work here, the technology, the show itself, the production. But you also get a community of tens of thousands of people hanging out in discord every single day. There's pre shows after shows. It is absolutely beautiful and fun. In fact, some people have started projects, played video games together. Some people have even gotten married. No guarantees. It is true though. Some people have gotten. We have a couple different people met up and that's the most important thing that we can do is build a community together. So smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Michael McCarthy.

[B]

Thanks for having me, Tim. Beautiful studio.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Well, who are you? What do you do?

[B]

Well, I'm an Irish political commentator. Basically what I do is I take footage out of Europe and I comment on it. Clips that might be spread around and I just show it to a wider public. That's kind of it. You know, I take short clips, I'll stitch it together with a bit of commentary and I post it on Instagram, Facebook and X.

[A]

So you're a journalist?

[B]

I would, yeah. Would I call myself a journalist? Some people would. I don't see myself as a journalist.

[A]

I, I think it's because the word journalist is an insult these days almost, you know.

[B]

Almost. Yeah.

[A]

We expect journalists to be propagandists for the state.

[B]

Spot on. Yeah.

[A]

But this is what journalism was always supposed to be.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're collecting these videos as information. You're sharing it with people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know, it's, it's, it's. Maybe you can call it like an editorial for the equivalent, I would say is like an editorial or a columnist for, for a larger media organization. But we don't live in that world anymore because all of these corporate news outlets are just lying about everything all the time. They, they use ridiculous tricks to reframe what really happened. They, they don't tell you who the criminal is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll tell you this. In one instance in Sweden, they, there was a. I think it was like a murder or something or a violent attack. They blurred the skin of the individual and then digitally altered the pixels to be white.

[B]

Oh my. That's shocking.

[A]

That's how crazy it's got. Yeah.

[B]

Should be illegal to do stuff like that.

[A]

I mean, in the United States it's a double edged sword of the first amendment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Newspapers are allowed to lie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You have a right to say what your opinion is. A government can't regulate that. So. But it is I don't know about Sweden.

[B]

It's basically the mainstream news would be a propaganda wing of just, I would say elite society a lot of the time. You see. And the problem with Ireland, Ireland's worse than most places because we have

[A]

a

[B]

regulator called Commission on the man and that funds most news outlets in Ireland. So you have local newspapers getting funded by it. You have the big newspapers getting funded by it. This is all state funding.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

It's. Yeah.

[A]

So interestingly, I mean everybody knows about the BBC. Yeah, we actually had, we have the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in the United States. Yeah, it's this creepy thing they set up. I, I'll just give a surface level on this one. It seems like a lot of the, a lot of like western nations have created the state funded propaganda machine for you guys. It's, it's more overt. Like you have a government funded machine, is it? Let me, let me say this about America. Most people don't know that Congress would, would for a long time give money to something called the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which would then disperse that money to a bunch of smaller news outlets, public radio, npr, pbs, things like that. People would then believe that these news outlets were funded just by donations. Is that similar in Ireland?

[B]

100%. Yeah. This, this commission, man, it was set up I think in 2023, so it's relatively new and it just, it has lots of grants. Like, I think it's the local democracy grants and all this other stuff where it just literally spreads money out to these local newspapers and big newspapers. So essentially what you have is you have media outlets in Ireland that would be almost afraid to go against the government or the state in case those grants are pulled back. Yep. And not given out. Wow. Yeah.

[A]

And it's, you know, I, I would also, I would also assume that the people running these newspapers are ideologically aligned with the government's interests.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. That's the other side of it. Most these people, I don't know, would you call them the journalist class? They're all there. You could say they're all one big group. It's like we have gripped who don't take that. Those grants that are outside that and just last week is how bad it is. They asked. They're on the press, they're in the press. So they asked politicians a question and the politicians go, oh, I'm not answering questions from gripped.

[A]

Just what is, what is the grip?

[B]

Grip, yeah. G or I P, T. That's how deep it goes. You have politicians, even though they're asked the question, they just won't answer it. They'll refuse to answer because it's grift.

[A]

Well, so I, I, I, I just, I pulled up your, your Instagram, of course, you got a million followers. You've got videos with. Here's one with 15 million views.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You've got, you get hundreds of thousands posting about these things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you been threatened in any way

[B]

or is there any from the government or people or.

[A]

You know, I would, I would just say. And obviously like left aligned wackos are probably going to threaten you.

[B]

Oh yeah. The whole time. Last week they were. You're probably used to it too.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

yeah. Just last week there were people putting out videos complaining about things I said basically on a video. And all the comments were tagging the police being like, we need to investigate this guy. Why does he still have an account? Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Has, has any like, has there, have there been any higher level threats or.

[B]

No, the only time that they might have said something was in our parliament's called the Doll. And I set up a GoFundMe for the protesters back in April. So people were protesting the rising fuel prices. So set up a GoFundMe raise 150,000 just to feed. Yeah. Feed protesters around the country and keep this thing going. But the left were angry at that. So a few people, her name's Rouge Coppinger, was in parliament in the, in the Dall era and saying, we need to get this shut down. Do people know who he is? You know, we need to. Wow.

[A]

It is, it is pretty wild that they don't know who you are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. They're just, I mean, you're massive platform. I imagine you've got other platforms too.

[B]

It's a. Yeah.

[A]

You're getting ton of views on this stuff. You like. I feel, you know, I'm on, I go on Instagram and I see your posts all the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And obviously there's a, I watch them and so then the algorithm says, show him more of this or whatever. But it's because it's interesting and I think you're like, you've got a quick wit and you make funny points, but you also highlight a real problem.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's surprising to me that they aren't aware of who you are. With a platform this big.

[B]

They're definitely, I say they're definitely aware anyways because even Simon Harris, the Taoiseach, I would do a video. So this is, this is. They blocked me on some platforms like these people and I would have never interacted with them. But what happens is I do a video. Simon Harris. There was a case where a child had scoliosis. His name was Harvey. And he went without treatment for a long time. And our, you know, deputy prime minister basically said, oh, you know, we'll treat him, all that. But he didn't. He ignored the parents. Harvey ended up dying, did a video on it. And what would happen then is that video, everyone would grab the link and, and spam it as your man who was involved. And they'll end up blocking me because, you know.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Yeah. So a few.

[A]

Well, so I, I have, I have so many questions about Ireland. I think we should. We'll start from the beginning, I mean, because we're already, we're diving into. Clearly right now, I think most people in the United States are aware of this, like migrant issue because you had this man brutally, brutally attacked.

[B]

Yeah. Beheaded.

[A]

He was beheaded nearly. Right. His eyes are. I mean, this is, this is horrifying. And this is the interesting thing about this is this is Belfast. This is Northern Ireland.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where are you from? Are you from Galway?

[B]

The west.

[A]

So is that Ireland? Ireland? Not Northern Ireland, Ireland.

[B]

Ireland. I think it's all Ireland. Ireland.

[A]

Exactly. But for Americans, I don't think they, they know where Belfast is, I don't think. But this is what was really interesting to me. I went to Belfast maybe like seven years ago. And what, what, what does that do? Big bonfires.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What is that? What is that? It's like bonfire night or something. What do they call that?

[B]

Yeah, that's the. You could say it's the Loyalist. It's the Union. Yes. They kind of just set a big bonfire. It's to set like. They do it.

[A]

They do it as kind of insane.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like a 300 foot tall.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Of wood pallets. And they burned it. It's. It's so hot, the ground like the asphalt boils.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's a show of force and strength, you know, for them.

[A]

But that's what's interesting is I went there and a friend of mine was showing me around, he showed me the peace wall, which is what, like separated the Protestants and the Catholics or something like this. And one side was pro Palestine, one side's pro Israel.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And so he made a. He made a funny point to me. He said, it's interesting how with the EU basically, you can freely move, you know, between Northern and Ireland. And Northern Ireland without. Without issue. Even though it's only something like 30 years ago. Not even.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you still had violence.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm seeing all this migrant stuff and I'm like, how did we get to the point where a nation that was fighting for unity and for. For sovereignty is now, And I believe it's the. The party and the faction that were fighting for Irish identity are now the ones inviting in the non Irish to take the Irish land.

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

Essentially, yeah, Sinn Fein. It would be Sinn Fein who are gone, completely woke. But they've been woke for a lot of people. If you go to protest now in Ireland, a lot of them will be chanting Sinn Fein are traitors. Because Sinn Fein were the Nationalist Party, you know, and they were. Back in the early 1900s, they would have been kind of to decide they weren't involved in the rising, the 1916 rising. But they were there and they took it. They took the energy afterwards and they went with. With us. So they were. They were nationalists back then. But after, during, I suppose the 19, late 1960s, when the troubles in the north happened, they started becoming woke. You know, they looked at the civil rights movement in America and they started using that same kind of talking points and moral philosophy and brought it into their struggle in the north. And that's where it kind of comes from. And then like you go back to 2004, we had a birthright citizenship referendum. So we had birthright citizenship. And the government, what happened, a lot of foreign people were coming in and having children. So the government decided, let's put it to a fold. Do people want this or don't they want us?

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

80% fought. They don't want it. But even back then, Sinn Fein, which is the Nationalist Party, voted. They wanted to keep us. And, and you listen to their talks back then. They were talking about anti racism. They were talking about discrimination before it was even, you know, a thing I would consider. They were really left wing and people, people are still. People still tie them to, you know, a nationalist movement. But it's far from.

[A]

Yeah, it's the opposite. Yeah.

[B]

It spritz out everyone else in. It's like.

[A]

Yeah, it, it's strange. Were they economically leftist, like Communist, Marxist, socialist?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Always have been.

[B]

Always have been. Yeah. They've all kind of. I don't know, They're. They've. All the main parties now all align economically, basically. They're just a bit ideologically. Are they even ideologically different? I wouldn't even thinking about it, I wouldn't say so. They're very similar in their beliefs. They're both left socially and they're Both kind of center left economically.

[A]

You know, what's really fascinating about your country right now is that there's, there's still some, I guess, feigning of Irish nationalism. Yeah, right. That's basically what we're talking about. When I went there in Northern Ireland, there was graffiti in Gaelic. I think that that would have been. I'm not. Is that what it's called?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I asked my friend, like, I was like, I. I understand this is probably like Irish language. And he was explaining like, yeah, it's basically someone graffiti something. The effect of the British out Ireland for the Irish. I'm like that. And I'm. I was just thinking it's very interesting how you can have people that are going to graffiti that, but at the same time they're going to be like, oh, yeah, but we can bring Somalians, we can bring in, you know, whichever migrants from whatever. And then this country is not actually for the Irish people. This is, it's so paradoxical. It makes no sense to me.

[B]

Yeah, it's, it's so, it's so wrong because their whole, like Sinn Fein, I suppose, for the longest time have all been about a united Ireland. So get the six counties to the north back. But people's opinion on immigration is largely. They want it limited. People aren't. There's a. It's a minority that are in favor of, of the amount of immigration that are coming in. So here you have Sinn Fein that are standing there saying, you know, there's no problem, there's no issue with immigration. Let them all come in. Which goes against the popular opinion which will defy people about, you know, having a united Ireland. If this is Sinn Fein's opinion, why do you want to support Sinn Fein? You know, plus, it also makes no sense that why do you want them out? You know, if you're saying everybody else in and you want to united Ireland, why do you want to unite Ireland? Is it because you want Ireland for Irish people?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or what's the other reason?

[A]

How do you, how do you describe the difference between the people, like the Northern Irish and the Irish? Like, how would you know?

[B]

Yeah, this. I suppose it goes back to. I suppose it goes back to the plantations in the 1600s where you had Scottish, Scottish Presbyterians brought in by the English. About a hundred thousand of them were planted in the north. And from that point on you had a large Protestant community in the north. And over time they became very. They're like, they're very in favor of having a British Ireland back in Like a you. What happened is we used to have the Kingdom of Ireland, which was a part of the British Empire, then it joined a union in 1801. And from that, then they were happy, the Presbyterians up in the north. Then we got our independence. They felt attacked. They knew that sooner or later we're looking for the 32 counties back. And then, you know, they feel threatened,

[A]

more aligned with staying part of the United Kingdom and.

[B]

Big time. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So there was a video I saw where, with these riots going on with this brutal attack on this man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Someone said, I, I, I, I can't remember how they described it. It was just like, you know, the Irish and the Northern Irish or whatever, they're like, cheering for each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's weird to see because they were like, with these big protests. There are people outside of Northern Ireland, in Ireland, that are waving Irish flags and cheering for the Irish in Northern Ireland now because they all feel attacked in both places by this migrant influx. And I'm sitting here thinking, like, you know, you have the Troubles. Did the government say, I know how to end this. Let's give them a unified enemy and bring in a bunch of people that everybody will hate. Now they're cheering for each other.

[B]

Yeah. Imagine. Yeah.

[A]

It would.

[B]

It's, you know, a common enemy. It would. It does make sense. No, like, it's, it's interesting because, like, sinnfei, it doesn't. It's, it's, it boggles my mind because on one stage, you have. 400 years later, you have still an ethnic divide in the land because a hundred thousand migrants were planted. Wow. And that's. That speaks to a bigger issue of, you know, can a different ethnic people get on and can they integrate?

[A]

This is, this is. Yeah, this is it right here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You have. Everybody knows about the troubles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's music about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There, there's. I mean, the, the song Zombie by Cranberries is billions of views, platinum, multi times over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even children who weren't Alive in the 90s who are, you know, Gen Z born in 2000, they can, they know the words. And it's so, it's so ingrained, this song is, that they don't even know what the words are about.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They just know that. They just. You hear the song, it's. It's on all the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the core of it is 100,000 people were brought in of a different culture.

[B]

Spot on.

[A]

And it resulted in what, how many years of, of con. 100 years of it.

[B]

It was in the 1600s and hundreds

[A]

of years of violence.

[B]

Of years. Yeah. It largely stopped in the 90s with the Good Friday Agreement.

[A]

Right. That was 1998, right?

[B]

1998. Yeah.

[A]

When I went to Belfast, and you have to correct me because I, I only had a cursory tour of this. Someone showed me like a memorial for some guys and there's like a painting or something like a mural on a wall. And he's explained to me the, the people of Northern Ireland celebrate these men who went to Ireland and massacred civilians. Something that effect. And it was like during the troubles, they went in and there was an attack and they, they, they, they, they killed civilians. They got killed and it was considered an attack against the oppressors or something like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then it gets to this day, they're still celebrating this. The craziest thing about it is to an American, most of them don't even understand the difference between Northern Ireland and Ireland.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But when you look. Are you familiar with Dearborn, Michigan?

[B]

I've heard of this. Don't know.

[A]

So Michigan, of course, you know, is a state.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a massive Muslim enclave. When you, when you go there, a lot of people don't speak English.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The stores are all in Arabic and you'll get along mostly fine. You know, you'll show up there. But it very, very much is a, is a serious enclave of, you know, I don't even know the population size, but it's very large. There's been issues of female circumcision, it's illegal. And there's Sharia patrols.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So they're, you know, de facto non police. But they, they, they, they argue we're only enforcing against our community as we all agree. But we know what this turns into. You tell the story of, you know, you bring in 100,000 migrants hundreds of years ago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With, with Donald Trump, with Trump winning with the immigration enforcement, I can only imagine there's a strong possibility, not just with something like Dearborn, but the Somali community in Minnesota, that if you get a MAGA movement that is ascendant, just like you were saying, they felt sooner or later was going to be them, but they're going to be targeted. When IRON got its independence, if, if you get a massive right wing populist movement and then the right just begins dominating all these elections, these, these groups are going to start saying, okay, it's time to use force to defend ourselves or something. That effect.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll give you an example. Zoran Mamdani, I'm sure You've heard of him. We just had a ruling at our Supreme Court that temporary protected status.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is. Is like, we can deport these people now. There's. All right, so Haiti was granted this protected status in 2010 because of the earthquake.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sixteen years later, why do we still give it to him?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then we have Syrian refugees because of the Civil War. That's 2012. That, that's over. And so our Supreme Court said Trump can deport him if he wants. It's his purview. So the mayor of New York said, effectively, like, we are going to resist the federal government to protect these people in our home.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But we're getting this all over the country. And, and, you know, maybe it's just in the, in the short term, we don't have to worry about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But you. When we look to how crazy it got for you guys, I'm worried that, look, these, these, the people up here, they have lots of kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and they're. And they, and what happens is, if you bring in, if you get to that tipping point where the majority, the, the, the, the plurality of voters are saying more migrants.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The, the dam has broken. Because now every year they're going to bring in more people who agree with them. And you will lose voting power every year. You can Never get back. Ten, 20 years later, it's just 80, 90% migrant saying, we are a different nation from you.

[B]

Yeah. You lose your country. It's the problem with democracy, you know, it is. It's a public force. And if you change the demographics, like, if you have a place that is planted with Muslims or Syrians, whichever, they're going to force for the Syrian who runs and like that, it speaks to something greater. But everyone's afraid to address it. You know, no one's addressing. Right. What happens when demographics change. Yeah. Like, is it in Ireland's best interest to bring in people, hundreds of thousands of people from elsewhere, like Northern Ireland, the Ulster Presbyterians, they're not so different from our own, you know, yet. Look what, look at the consequence.

[A]

Right. It, it, it. It's actually kind of scary.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How if, like, again, to an American, there's no functional difference.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now you tell them that and they're, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But say that to them.

[B]

They'll be like.

[A]

But if, you know, if someone from Belfast and someone from Dublin were both here at the same time, they'd be like, Ireland.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Americans wouldn't really know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, if you brought in, you know, a Somali who was born In Belfast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And a guy from Dublin, they're gonna be like, no, of course. Something different here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Different people.

[B]

Yeah. And even, Even the migrants who come in here and they say they integrate and they assimilate. There was one, a Somali girl, and she won the Rose of Dublin. So we have a competition. It's like a beauty kind of contest mixed with, like, how nice you are. It's like. It's the Rosa Truly. It's.

[A]

It's not one Somali. A Somali girl, one.

[B]

Oh, Somali girl, one up in Dublin. And everyone, like the media, all that stuff, you know, she's Irish. That's, that's. That's the way it's done. She was on Tick Tock and she ran a marathon and she said she was celebrating. She said she's seen her Somali sisters smiling and celebrating her. And she went over. She's. She's. She never lived in Somalia. Somalia. Yet she feels connected. People pretend as if there isn't a connection beyond, you know, citizenship or where you're born. Why does she feel connected to her Somali sisters more so than her maybe Irish community? Because she's Somali.

[A]

Isn't it just so silly in this modern era? You look at the world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Every country, every single one outside of Europe is an ethno state.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Japan is, Is. Japan's an interesting story right now. I don't. Have you read anything about what's going on with. With Japan and migration and.

[B]

Not so much. I know she got in with a mandate that should stop us, but I don't know if she's following true with us. Is she.

[A]

So it's. It's interesting, but the population collapse is a big reason why countries are starting to freak out. And so Japan has a bunch of cities that are becoming abandoned. There's not enough young people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so what happens is the older generation, they got no problem hanging out.

[B]

Yeah. You know.

[A]

Hey, they all like Star Trek, the Next generation. They remember 1989. I love that show. Right. But if you were born in 2000 and everyone around you was old.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You've got no one to talk to. So they're moving to Tokyo, which is a. Tokyo is insanely big.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the government now is as interesting as a lot of these houses. Like five to 10 bedroom houses sell for, like, you know, 50 to $60,000 U.S. which would be a million dollars to an American. They're trying to entice foreigners, start buying these things up.

[B]

Right.

[A]

The interesting point about it, and we can get into the. That's in a Second, but the point in this, in this regard is Japan's an ethno state. And the conflict right now is there are a lot of traditional Japanese saying, we do not want even white people, gaijin coming into our country. You look at China, it's, I mean, if you're a, if you're a foreigner, it's all very difficult.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you look at Europe and you look at the United States and they're like, we're not a real country. Like, what do they say? Anybody could be Irish.

[B]

It's terrible. How, how disrespectful to. And these are the people who say they love the country and they'd sooner call. So they have a stick like the left in Ireland, have a stick with Irish Americans with Irish ancestry. And you see it like, I was on the plane over here and I was looking at an American couple, red hair, look like someone you'd see, you know, your cousin or someone you'd see in Ireland, probably ethnically very linked to Ireland.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they would sooner deny them their heritage and say they're not Irish and then say the Somali who came in five years ago got citizenship. They're, they're, they're as Irish as the next person.

[A]

I, I think, I, I, I, I don't, I might have remembered the, the, what was it called? The Rose of Ireland story.

[B]

Rose TR.

[A]

Yeah, something like that. I think I may have saw that where it's like some commentary was like, this woman's not Irish and it's not meant to be mean to the person.

[B]

Of course not, no.

[A]

But could you imagine if, like, you went to Japan and, like, this is the most Japanese man we've ever saw. I'm just like a white guy with blue eyes.

[B]

It's so different. And it would be so disrespectful for the Japanese. If I walked around and said, I'm

[A]

Japanese, they'd be like, no, you're not, and you never will be.

[B]

And I'd be like, no, I'm as Japanese as you.

[A]

You know, it's really funny. It's if, if you, if, if in like the woke era of the United States.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If, if this ideology is so nonsensical and cult, like, they will say, oh, this young Somali girl is Irish in the United States.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, so actually, let me ask you this. This young woman, and I'm not trying to be mean to or anything, but she, she, she speaks English with a, with an Irish accent, I would imagine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you came to the United States and went on TV and Takaraka and say, I am, I am a Chinese. They, they'd ban you. They would. How dare you?

[B]

100%. Yeah.

[A]

It's so weird.

[B]

It is weird.

[A]

And then you have a Somali girl. I mean, what if you were like, no, I'm from Beijing. I talk a dish. That's just me. They, they, they, it, it, you know, it's, they wouldn't, they wouldn't care if it was, if it was true. They'd just say, no, it's offensive to people, so you can't.

[B]

Yeah. And it'd be so strange to see. You'd be like, what the, what am I looking at? But, but with the way Europe and the west is gone, they're trying to destroy your national identity and a people, the Irish as a people, as a nation. Instead, they're trying to make it. The state has control over who it represents rather than the people having control over who the state represents.

[A]

You guys got a rough go of it. I mean, how many hundreds of years have they been trying to destroy the Irish identity for?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Normans. Normans came in the 12th century. So you're talking 800 years.

[A]

You know what I will say though is, yeah, if there's one thing you've got behind you is that you've survived 800 years.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. But the, the demographic change happening now is unlike anything like you're talking about. The plantations of Ulster happen over, you know, decades, and that's a hundred thousand. Yeah, we've had, it's like 600,000 people come in the last. Since 2020, you know.

[A]

You know, I, I, I wonder about this. We saw the King Charles went to Canada because most people don't know this. He's the king of Canada. And I, I, I think techn, like, I think even though Commonwealth, the Commonwealth country is all considered, they're, they're all, I think, legally distinct, sovereign or whatever. I believe he's the king of like Australia, New Zealand and all the, all the same or whatever. And then he did a land acknowledgment. Did you see this?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah. King Charles goes to Canada and he's addressing Parliament. He's like, before we begin, I just want to say we are on the con. We are on the unceded territory of the Anishibeg people, which is like the weird thing for a king to say. Like, we recognize that this land is an illegal occupation of ridiculous, isn't it? So one of the things that has come up from that is the king is viewed as woke.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And pro Islam. And I can't help but wonder if I hear from people all the time, they say, oh, he has no power, he has no authorities. It's a. He's a figurehead. And I'm like, I don't believe that.

[B]

No.

[A]

I don't believe that a royal family with. With dedicated and loyal followers and. And resources simply just gives up their ambitions. And I'm not saying that they control the world or the most powerful in the world, but they're a powerful family with political ambitions.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And also, you know, they say he has no power, but the king could dissolve parliament if he wanted to. And they're, oh, but it'll be a political disaster. And I'm like, yes, but we're dealing with a political disaster in Europe, in the uk. So part of me wonders if all of this is, you know, the British have been trying to effectively. I don't know, I want to be careful on how I describe it, but they don't like the Irish. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is this just another politically aligned. This is how we get rid of them for once and for all?

[B]

Yeah, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say so. Like, I actually think England and Ireland, not now, have a great relationship. I know people have past grievances and there's a lot of, you know, anger there, but if we actually break down, England and Ireland have been in the last, you know, since I suppose, the 50s, they've been all right to each other. There's not. There's not an except, I suppose, with the North. Yeah. But in terms of. A lot of Irish went to London and they made a lot of money in London and they brought it home. I know a lot of Irish people that would have had parents or grandparents that would have worked in England and then came home later. So there's a. A relationship there. Plus, we have, like, I can travel to England, no problem. An English person can come into Ireland. They don't need visa, they don't need any of that stuff. They can just start working if they want to.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So someone from London can come to Dublin and they get a job.

[B]

Yeah, no problem. Yeah.

[A]

And that's like the European Union stuff, though, isn't it? Like Schengen Zone or.

[B]

It's the. It's the Anglo Irish Agreement.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Called. I think it was in the 80s. It was signed. And it just means, like, even they can come here and they can get a hospital appointment. Okay. All that stuff.

[A]

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So I have a funny story my, my whole life, you know, so I'm, I'm a quarter Asian. I'm, I'm 20% Korean, 5% Japanese. My mom is half. And she said, you know, my dad is German Irish. And she said, I'm German, Irish and Korean because my mom's dad was German Irish. And so she's like, so you're German, Irish and Korean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then a few years ago, she got a DNA test from, like, the 23andMe or whatever. And then she was like, here, check it out. You're actually Japanese, too. Like, we always, we didn't know that my mom had some Japanese in her, which also has horrifying implications if you know the history of the region.

[B]

But so weren't friends.

[A]

Yeah. And so I was like, oh, look at that. You know, my mom's actually 10% Japanese. And then she shows me the map. If you ever do the DNA test, they show you the, the bubbles of where you are. And she goes, see, look, you've got the Asian, and then you've got the Irish. And she points to London. The circle is over. Is over. England.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And I said, mom, that's England. And she goes, well, yeah, Ireland, you know, England. And I was like, no, Mom.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's like, well, we're, we're like Irish. And I said, mom, that's not Ireland. That's, that's, that's, that's England. Yeah, that's different. And she's like, no, no, because Ireland is in England, the same thing. And I was like, it's not the same thing. And don't tell them that. Like, true. So that's how I found out I was actually part British, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think that I, you know, I, I, I, I imagine maybe, like, at this point, the way you describe it, everyone gets along.

[B]

Everyone gets along. It's still odd. People call Ireland British, which is, you know, so strange.

[A]

What's exactly what my mom thought.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like, where's that coming from?

[A]

Well, it's very different. And it is different.

[B]

Yeah. We don't like it either because we're, we are our own people. We are on our own nation. But, yeah, it's just insane. Like, it's insane what's happening in Europe. America is much the same. You see a lot of demographic change coming to America, too, and just seems to be Western countries. Well, facing us.

[A]

I'm curious because we've obviously entertained a lot of the conspiracy theories.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We could look at every nation not having kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, in Africa they have lots of kids. Yeah, they used to have more. They still have a lot. I think it was, you know, if you go back 30 years, they're like 12 kids per family. Now it's like five, which is still massive. But you look at almost every other nation, even Islamic nations, despite the fact they do have a high birth rate. It's also very low. Japan's gone. Their, their birth was like 0.8. Korea, I think is like 0.3. South Korea is insane. Even China. And so with it, with this low birth rate being so widespread, some people just believe it's a natural tendency due to technology and culture that you don't need to have families anymore. And so people don't. But the other conspiracy is our, our governments, our elites in the media have intentionally sowed this antinatalist ideology in people. Don't have kids, you don't have kids, don't have sex. All those things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which has resulted in these crises for which they now can't. There's a couple ways to look at it. One is the conspiracy theory is that the Malthusians, fearing overpopulation in the 70s, sowed this propaganda tiger, don't have kids, which created this long term devastating impact, which is we can't maintain our economic systems without new people. So one theory is that they're now scrambling to bring in new workers and they don't care where they come from. However, there's the other side of the conspiracy is that they intentionally wanted to depopulate so they could intentionally bring in mass migration and homogenize all these nations. Do you see like, do, do, do you see any merit to those? Because I, I would argue that I, I, I, I see probability in them, but I don't know for sure.

[B]

Yeah, I always think it's a combination of a lot of things coming together. Everyone always tries to nail it down to one thing, but it is a part of this broader liberal progressive movement. I know with Ireland, like Ireland's a good example of how it develops. Before the 90s, we were relatively poor. The Catholic Church had a lot of say in Ireland. They had tight grip around Ireland. And in the 50s we practiced like a protecting this kind of society where our Prime Minister Taoiseach wanted Ireland to be kept Ireland and it was largely farms that met up the, you know, the workforce. And Ireland started stagnating. It started go, it was kind of backwards. Catholic Church had a lot of power. Again, fast forward to the 90s. A lot of Irish in that time immigrate it's like 400, 000 in the. In the 50s left and we had a population of 3 million, like a staggering amount of people left because there was nothing happened in Ireland. It was. It was piss poor. Grandfather always said, you know what, good old days. There was no such thing as the good old days. It was. Ireland was a very poor country, especially rural Ireland. Then in the 90s, what happens is there's a boom. So the Celtic tiger starts. The Catholic Church, what is that? Celtic Tiger was just a boom of industry. We had low corporation tax and we opened up to free trade. So a lot of American multinationals, and this was like the I T boom as well, right, came into Dublin. They're still there today. Most, the most American multinationals have their headquarters in Dublin, which inflates our GDP by a huge amount. It brings. It brings us a lot of money. So you had a Celtic tiger boom which started. We. Ireland started catching up on the world stage. The Catholic Church came out with their, you know, their scandals. Galway bishop was found to have fathered a child. Few more things came out and then it was the, the, you know, the abuse of children came out and people were shocked. They were. A lot of people were happy because finally the Catholic Church's grip on society would loosen. So we had prop. We had an industry boom open to free trade, globalization. Essentially, Catholic churches power went down. Then we had people like Chuck Feeney and others pumping billions into NGOs and universities. And those, Those millions would have went into progressive NGOs, so, you know, like gender equality, trans. There's. I have. Yeah, like a lot of weird stuff. I have a list.

[A]

It's just, it's got to. I'm sorry, it's got to be conspiracy, right? It's happening in Ireland's, happening in America, it's happening in Britain, happening in France. All these countries.

[B]

Yeah, like, look at like, some of them. And this sets up, then later on, what ends up creating this, you know, infrastructure where there's a lot of people in the west that rely on refugees coming in and immigration. Like, we have NGOs like this immigrant Council of Ireland Integrating Ireland, Refugee Information Services, African Women's Network, Irish Council of Civil Liberties, the Gay and Lesbian Equality Network, Lesbian in Cork, Lesbians in Cork. Not to be confused with lesbians in Galway. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Like, is that actually a different organization?

[B]

No, no, silly place.

[A]

Because, I mean, yeah, yeah, why not?

[B]

Right, so all these NGOs employ people and they make a lot of money. They all rely, like immigrant Council of Ireland rely on immigrants. If immigrants stop coming in, they lose their job. And the more immigran that come in, the more funding from the state they get. A good example of this was the Irish Network Against Racism. They make their money if there's racism. Obviously, if there's no racism, they lose their job. They set up an I report system. The I report system means people can go online and even if they perceive a racism happen or a racist thing, you know, happening, all you have to do is perceive it. You don't have to even be involved. You can go report us. It was in, in 2018, I think they had 190 reports then. They were basically. There was a video came out of immigrants saying they were like encouraged to report racism. It rose by 300 to 400%. And then, then that year they go to the government and they go, look at all this racism. And the government hands them millions.

[A]

Are you familiar with the Southern Poverty Law center in the U.S. no. We just had a big scandal. There's a group, we call it the splc and they put out Hate Watch. They said Charlie Kirk spread hate. And they put them on these lists. They list all these conservative organizations or Christian organizations. And the big scandal right now is they've been indicted because they were actually funneling money to neo Nazi groups. White supremacists. You make money off the racism. You need the racism to keep happening. And you know, I think there was a, there was an analysis done in the United States six, seven years ago that we only actually have around 11,000 white supremacists, like overt flag waving out of 300 and some odd million people. Well, how are you gonna make money off a problem so small? Yeah, so they, interestingly enough, they've been accused of helping fund some of the biggest rallies or organize or bring people in. Now, now they're being criminally charged because the, the, our government's calling it fraud. They defrauded the donors. They told the donors, if you give us money, we'll fight this. And then gave money to white supremacists to hold rallies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Insane.

[B]

It's insane, isn't it? So you're creating, you're creating a system with which rewards these things. It's same with the NGOs. We have NGOs on the Mediterranean that bring in refugees. So all refugees just have to set off from the north of Africa in their dinghies. They get us to a certain amount and then these NGO ship will pick them up and bring them to Europe.

[A]

But you see, look what word you just used? Refugee.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're not refugees. They're not.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

Economic migrants.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

If, if that. I would actually. I went to Paris.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In 2018 and interviewed. I would call some of these people victims. And I went to Athens as well. And I know there's gonna be a lot of people who have a visceral reaction to. No, no, no. These people are economic migrants, many of them criminals. But let me just hear me out. I go to Paris and they have this big inflatable tent. Right. It's massive. I don't know if you've ever seen these things they do where to put up a structure to protect from the elements. It's just like plastic and then they pump air and then it inflates and then you can go inside and sit down. It's warm.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I talked to these guys from sub Saharan Africa who said they were tricked. They said in their home countries, they were told that France has a program to welcome them, which is technically true, and that they're in desperate need of workers for low skilled jobs. And so this guy's telling me, he's like, they lied to us. They told us to come because we were being invited to the country to come and work. And it's like. And when we show up, they have nothing for us and we are cold.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we want to go home. And I was. And, and, and now. That's weird.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So in it, in essence, it is true that they are trying to bring them in. They. There are in some instances, low skill jobs they want them to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But this guy, it was really fascinating. He said, I've never, I've never seen snow before. He's like, I'm in a cold place now and it's painful and I don't want to be here and I'd rather be at home. They tricked us into coming. And so they go on this dangerous journey thinking that, you know, France and all the French people are waving flags saying, please help us. Some of these people obviously know full well they're coming for exploitation. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They land on a beach and they run in and they try and get past the cops. I think that's most of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When I went to Athens, I found something similar. I talked to one guy who said that he was from Afghanistan and with, with the conflict, they're told, you can come to Europe because they're, they're, they're happy to bring you in. And then he's like. And then we find out most people are mad at us? Yeah, a lot. And. And, you know, some of these people, they're. They're. They're lucid, I guess they're smarter. And they speak. Speak English to me. They say, like, there's a lot of criminals who came from their country, too. And. And this guy was a drug dealer.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so I'm like. Well, I was like, you're a criminal. You're a drug dealer. And he was like, I have no choice. He's like, I wasn't a drug dealer at home, but I come here and I. I'm sleeping on the streets. They give me nothing. And the way I find money is I. I sell drugs to people. And I'm like, it. Would you leave if you could? And I hear from these people, too, like, yes, I want to go home.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But. But I would. I would say, obviously, this is a minority. It's a minority.

[B]

It is, yeah.

[A]

Most of the people are happy to exploit and take what they can get. You. We've got a big thing here in the United States with the Somali community in Minnesota. The. The fraud. They. It's. I can't believe that our. Our countries are being extracted by. For whatever reason, by powerful elites. And these people they bring in, what they'll do is they've been setting up, like, medical programs or nursing homes or daycares, bill the government millions of dollars, but never actually do anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then they publicly say, we're sending this money back to Somalia.

[B]

Yeah. It's shocking.

[A]

It's just extraction.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And how long can we last?

[B]

And it's so blatant. And nothing's done. Do you know what I mean? And it's. It. I. I think the root cause or the problem is the moral philosophy of, do we actually have a responsibility to these people? And I don't. I don't think we. I don't think we do. I don't. I think the refugee program in its entirety should be shut down. I don't think we should be taking refugees from parts of Africa. You can make an argument for setting up centers over there to help them or maybe change. You know, you don't want to go into regime change, but try. Steer them in the right direction. But in no way. Like, where's the moral argument for bringing in refugees if that results in even one child getting attacked and raped? I think it's completely. Completely falls apart. And it's. The whole time in England, you look almost every week now, you hear of a report of refugees that came in. They might have been here for a Few months and, and they went out and raped a child. There was a two year old.

[A]

I just heard this.

[B]

You see that? Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Shotgun.

[A]

You're familiar with the Punisher? The Marvel character? The Punisher.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

You don't know the Punisher?

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, but you know Marvel Spider Man. Yeah. The Punisher is a superpowers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He is a guy whose wife and daughter were killed, so now he just massacres criminals. He's an anti hero.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And he's actually gonna be in the Spider man movie coming out in a month.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And his whole character is that after the murder of his family, he just murders villains. You know, we get this comic book trope of don't kill. You know, Batman's like, we can't kill people. Like the Punisher just didn't care. In fact, I love this and I know there's a lot of people who are like, this is an important part of the conversation. There's a lot of people who would say, this is for children. Comics don't talk about. No, no, no, hold on. This is important. Are you familiar with Ghost Rider?

[B]

No.

[A]

So you got to know your Marvel stuff, right? So Ghost Rider, he was a daredevil on a motorcycle. This is the story. And he dies. He crashes. And the devil offers him a deal to serve as his, I don't know, Legionnaire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he brings him back. So Ghost Rider's head is a flaming skull. He's got a leather jacket and a chain, and he drives a motorcycle. And what he does is evil. People must pay their dues and devil owns them. And so in the comics, he has something called the Penance Stare. He looks into your eyes and for all of the sins you've committed, your soul burns and you feel the agony of every death you've ever committed. And famously in the comics, when he tried to pen and stare the Punisher who's murdered thousands, he killed thousands of criminals. Nothing happened because he has no remorse for anything he's done.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So there's no guilt, there's no sin. He's, he's, he, he believes he is morally justified in killing all these people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I bring that up just because. Yeah, two things. One, that story of the two year old raped and murdered. I think the story of the Punisher didn't go far enough. I, I, and, and I mean this sincerely. Like you have a guy in, I don't know what year they wrote this character. The idea was that his family is killed. So he decides he's gonna start killing people. And I'm like, I think the extent to which you would see a man break if something like that happens to his child is like, it starts wars. It's more than just a guy going around beating up gang bangers and shooting people. It is profoundly terrifying. What the right, the right man with the right motivations who suffers a tragedy to such an extreme degree could genocide a country? I mean, 100% terrifies me.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

The other thing I'll mention about the culture is, you know, I bring up comic books and movies, and then there are a lot of conservatives who are like, this is stupid. But no, this is what informs us when we grow up hearing stories from the previous generations. And there, there, there was a. With the character of the Punisher. He's extremely popular right now because the Marvel movies, you know, they haven't done. Actually, I'll put it this way. Yeah. Let's connect it all the weird woke stuff. Marvel is the biggest thing in the world from 2008 until 2019, these movies, billions and billions and billions. And then they go woke.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're trying to bring in the female characters. They do the girl power stuff, destroys it. Everything starts bombing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then they make Spider Man's doing well and they're trying to erase it all. What does well is they just put out a Punisher short film where it's literally 40 minutes of him brutally to the extreme of gore massacring criminals. It's literally 40 minutes of him slitting throats and shotgunning to the head and like blood. It is insane. And I'm like, I think they finally figured out what people really want. But so here's why I think the culture is important. And we'll tie it back into everything we're saying. Citizen Vigilante.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This film, which is UE Bol, is that he says ube Bolt. And he was like a B movie director and he does these like. I don't, I don't call them silly, but they're considered to be B movies. Right. And it's remarkable because I see this movie start popping up and it's basically just. It's kind of like the Punisher.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He gets sick and tired of all the crime and the corruption, and then he goes to the victim and says, did you get justice? And they're like, no. And then he goes and he just massacres people. Here's what's scary, how much people love it.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

What is that? Sentiment, you know?

[B]

Yeah, there's, there's, there's there's an underlying feeling that people have that isn't being addressed, you know, and that's that movie kind of hints at us. It says, look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why it's done so well, because people feel like justice isn't being done and they feel like their second class citizens in their own country, which they are. You know, we have in Ireland. It's, it's unbelievably shocking how bad it is in Ireland. There's hotels all across the country that are owned by private contractors. And essentially what the government does is it goes them and says, we will offer you full occupancy at 99 Euro a head. All you have to do is fill it with foreigners.

[A]

They do that here too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In New York.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and you know what's really brutal is Gen Z is struggling right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They, they can't find meaningful work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They can't afford to buy homes or have families.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At the same time, luxury. There's a luxury hotel in New York City in a wealthy neighborhood.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Full of like Sub Saharan African migrants and they have, they get PlayStations. They, they come in, they get, they get a room.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean these are studio apartments, effectively where you get a bed, you get a tv, cable, Internet, you get your own private space. And they gave, they got PlayStation and they play video games for free.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For what reason is the question. Yeah, obviously it's happening to Ireland's, happening to the United States, it's happening all across Europe. It's on purpose.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There is some external force to our countries that has infiltrated or done something to where they can take our public money and the labor we do and give it away to people whose output is zero.

[B]

Yeah, it's, it's totally wrong. They're essentially like in Ireland we have obviously a cost of living crisis and a housing crisis and young people find it hard to afford their first home and start a family. They're essentially the government is that whatever savings they have, whatever they're trying to save, the government is reaching into their pocket, taking it out, handing it to already wealthy people who own these hotels and say just house foreigners there and we'll keep taking money off these people.

[A]

I was going to ask you why, like what's the, what's the Irish birth rate? It's low, I'd imagine. Right.

[B]

I think it's 1.7 or 1.9.

[A]

And, and you know, the funny thing is the Irish are famous for having lots of kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's the joke in the United States.

[B]

Yeah, My father's has a. Eleven. Eleven children? Yeah.

[A]

You said your father.

[B]

Yeah. No, as in my father, he's, he would have had 11 siblings.

[A]

Well, right, right. Wow.

[B]

Yeah. I'd have 45 cousins on one side.

[A]

Do you have a family or anything?

[B]

No, no family.

[A]

What do you like? Obviously, I think the people watching have assumptions about what changed, but I'm curious in your experience, like, what changed for your generation to where you go from 11 kids to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not having a family yet, at least.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, I think it's where obviously I think a lot of it is to do with money we're left with in Ireland. We were left, our generation were left with the debt incurred with the financial crisis in 2008. We left where the. Essentially our government bailed out private banks in the tune of billions, which is trillions here, you know, same thing here. Yeah. Shocking like. So they decided, it's unbelievable. The banks gave out all, all these loans, had very little risk awareness. And when everything came crashing down, a lot of men ended up taking their own life. After the financial crisis, the government decided, you know what, it will bail out the banks. They'll bail out the banks and the people who owed money. Still owed money. Yeah. And then we were left with the debt of that. And then I think over time what happens is they come up with reasons to kind of tax you. More like the USC was introduced. We know that it's universal social charge. It was, it was brought. Is how bad it is. It was brought in to pay off the debt of the financial crisis. And you know, they said they'll take it away, but they never do, you know, and of course. And it's just sitting there now taking money off people. Same with carbon tax and all this other stuff. All that I think is just a means to take more money off people.

[A]

It's, it's fascinating how much you describe literally happened here as well, and I'm sure happened everywhere else. We had the 2000. So I, I, when people, you know, ask, ask me, I, I just recently had my first kid. I'm 40. And I'm like, listen, when I, when the traditional age an American would have a child is between like around 22 years old, 22, 24 maybe at that age. That's when the, I was 22 in the financial crash happened. Yeah, 21, 22. I was sleeping on floors. Yeah, I couldn't get a job. I couldn't, you know, have a family. It was impossible. It's interesting to me that the same mechanisms that were happening here happened there. And so there's two thoughts about it, I suppose. Could it be that greedy, ignorant people were making so much money off of this system that propped up bad loans, they didn't care what the long term effects were going to be, resulting in this crisis. And the end result is financial crisis, economic strain.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Debt resulting in no population growth. The government's in panic to patch up this hole, try to bring in as many migrants as possible to do low skill labor. Or could it be this was the intended condition? The economic crisis in fact was on purpose?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The reason I bring that up is because. Are you familiar, I mentioned it earlier, but Malthusianism.

[B]

No.

[A]

There's a book called the Population Bomb. And in the 70s, a lot of prominent wealthy individuals bought into this ideology that there is a finite amount of human population capable on Earth.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Which is, I would argue in the simplest of terms if you're a child, obviously. Right. I mean, only so many humans can fit in a building.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The question is, what is the capacity of Earth? How many humans can it maintain? And so these people feared that the generations were exponentially increasing, particularly with new forms of energy. Nuclear being at really high return on energy invested. Oil of course, being just tremendous. We look at the, the Industrial revolution, particularly with the expansion of oil and population skyrockets. The, you know, the Earth for a long time was relatively stable in small population growth until the early 1900s. So these wealthy elites are like, we need people to not have kids. We need to retract the population.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There is something called the Georgia guidestones. I imagine you probably never heard of these.

[B]

No.

[A]

But, but it's, you know, interesting nonetheless. There are these stones that were put up in Georgia. Yeah. And no one knows exactly who did, but it gave instructions on how to run the planet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And one of them was the population must never surpass 500 million.

[B]

Right.

[A]

In the planet on the planet of 8 billion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So everyone kind of looks at each other like. So a bunch of wealthy individuals put up these, these monuments and they tell you, you can't have more than 500. Okay, well there's 8 billion now. What does that mean they're going to do?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we start seeing in our media there's a video that goes, that goes viral from time to time from a show called Captain Planet.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You ever hear Captain Planet?

[B]

No.

[A]

You're Irish, you know, so I imagine there's a lot of things you didn't hear of for here so the show

[B]

was

[A]

like, was it five teenagers are given magic rings.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And it's a. Earth, water, fire, wind and heart, I guess is. I don't know. I'm looking at Carter like, I don't know. Fire. But the villains were industrialists and it was corporate greed. You know, there, there, there's one bad guy named Lute, one bad guy named Plunder. Like, and Captain. Captain Planet, when they, when they, when they fire their, their magic rings off, it makes Captain Planet. He's a superhero. Right. It's so silly. Environmentalism. But they did an episode where Captain Planet says stop having kids explicitly. So this is got to be like 91 and I'll pull it up in a second. They say something like, there are too many people on Earth. You don't need to have a big family. Isn't after all the world your family?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So this is what we're all told growing up. Women are told, you don't need to have a family or be a mom. You can be a girl boss. It's not just the economic collapse happen. We have been ingrained for decades to not have families that. It's not good, it's not fun, it's not socially acceptable or whatever reason. When the financial collapse happens, it certainly makes it worse. Then they bring in all these economic migrants. I can't help but conclude it's not an accident.

[B]

No.

[A]

That, you know, one of the theories is that everything we're seeing across the country is homogenizing culture.

[B]

You.

[A]

You erase the Irish identity.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you get this weird amalgam of not of lowest common denominator nonsense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then it's interchangeable with France.

[B]

Spot on. Yeah. I say that, I say that a lot on my videos. Like it makes sense for people, like if they want. If there is to be a ruling class, essentially what you want is all European countries to be one of the same. And then you don't have a national identity of any of them and you can rule over them. I think it's like, as you say, it's a combination of stuff. It's the girl boss attitude. It's also girls going to like, think about girls women's lifetime. Like they go out of school, they obviously are told, get a degree. You spend four or five years in Agree. Degree. You obviously want to use. Oh yeah, you obviously want to use that degree. You're going to spend another four or five years in the workforce. That stage, your third day. Hopefully by then you've found someone and you've been trying to find Someone, if not, you might take another few years. You have to get to know someone before marriage. There's not much time left for your window to have children.

[A]

There's a funny post on Reddit last week where it was, it was, it was a screenshot of a tweet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Someone mentioned Anne Hathaway and a couple other female celebrities who are like 38 to 41 having kids.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And someone responded to the news story saying elderly women should not be having kids.

[B]

Oh really?

[A]

So this was on, so that post was on Reddit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And someone, it was like, it was called like explain the joke. Is it the subreddit? And someone said, I don't understand why they're calling someone elderly.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Top comment was women at 35 pregnancies are called geriatric pregnancies.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because that is a dangerous and late pregnancy for a woman with high risk. A lot of abnormalities, miscarriages as well. Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's, it's, you know, women, I think, aren't being adequately informed by our societies that the best age to have a child is probably 22.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they, the, the fascinating thing is this, this assumption that a 22 year old is still a child.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You were an adult human being.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You, you are supposed to be on your own with a family.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And a house and all of these things.

[B]

Like that whole thing. She's 22, you sick freak.

[A]

Yeah. The fascinating, fascinating thing too is on the dating apps.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They find that women message men their own age always. So they look at the scale of age and it's like a 22 year old woman will message a 22 or 23 year old man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Men only ever message 22 year old women.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[A]

And like feminists get upset about this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But there's a very obvious reason a man of any age, up to a certain point, obviously like, you know, a 50 year old woman is still going to be Talking to a 50 year old man because the assumption is you're not having family at that age. It's like we're just looking for friends to hang out with. But for men who are seeking romantic partnership.

[B]

Spot on.

[A]

A 22 year old woman can have kids and a man can have kids at any age and a woman cannot. So the woman is not as interested and the man is. Feminists get mad about that. Oh, it's creepy. Why would a 40 year old man ve a 22 year old if he wants to have a family?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, you know, I feel bad for a Lot of these guys. I have friends who are in their 40s, and they want to have families, but they can't because of the current state of things. I brought this up seven years ago on this show where I said in the greater context. What I was discussing was modern feminism has created a circumstance by which women don't want to settle down and have families.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At the age in which they can do it. And if you are a man trying to find a traditional woman who wants to take care of your house because you can't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't get them.

[B]

No.

[A]

And of course, the left takes it out of context. They attack me for it. Say Tim's an insult and all these things. I'm married. I have a kid. Yeah. My, my, my issue was when I was in my late 20s, I would have loved to have had a woman who says, you go do the work, you find the resources. I'll find the family. Like, I will. I will. I will work my finger to the bone for the family. You work your finger to the bone for the resources for that family.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But the modern ideology tells women not to do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're 22. Time to go into the workforce and be a girl boss.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so most of the women that you. You will find in a city are going to say, I'm not having kids, I'm not gonna have a family.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm independent. I'm on my own. And I think, you know, I would make the argument, to the chagrin of the feminists, women would be much happier if they were. If they were moms, if they were with their kids, if they're at home. It is an. You know, is it just insane.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That so many of our. Of women of our age have been convinced working a 9 to 5 in an office is preferable to being at home with your kids.

[B]

Shocking. Yeah.

[A]

They're offended by the idea, but they

[B]

police each other as well. You know, you see it so often. A woman will prefer to be at home with her kids and making. We used to call it making a house, a home.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And women will attack another woman for doing that, for having that choice, saying, you're wasting your life. You should get back into the workforce. You're thinking, why? You know, they kind of self. They sabotage each other. With us. I like. The problem with this is you can. We can talk about it. Like the, the issue is you can't. You can't talk about. Essentially, you can't suggest that a woman almost, you know, you can't suggest A woman might be happier at home because you'll get attacked. You know what I mean? You'll get attacked, but I don't care. Yeah, I know, but why shouldn't you be able to have that conversation? Why is it a thing that you will get attacked by saying that?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You know, I speaks to something.

[A]

I would rather be on the hunt. I'd rather be working and building.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's, you know, as, as, you know, I'm married. I have one kid and it was, it was late. You know, to be fair, you know, I can, I can eat this one. My wife and I could have had a kid sooner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There was, you know, when we were in our, when I was in my early 30s, my wife and I know each other for decades.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was just, we, we thought it would just happen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We were like, you know, come on, we're too, you know, it's gonna happen. And then we, we got to the point where we're like, okay, let's make, make sure it happens.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And for the younger people out there, what that basically means is you go to the doctor, you get the hormone tests and you're like, we want to make sure we're doing things properly because we're in our 30s. When you're 20s, it just happens, you know, because you're doing your thing. You know what I mean? So, you know, we could have. But I don't, I don't, I don't much care for the feminists who get all angry about it because I describe it as a self correcting problem. I saw this woman, she's like a libertarian. She posted on X. Yeah, I don't, I don't want to have kids and I don't need to have kids. And I just responded, this is a self correcting problem.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now I didn't say this with malice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or viciousness. It wasn't like a direct. It was part of a conversation about like she had this big post saying some people want to have kids, some don't. And my point was people who don't want to have kids, there is no debate to be had with them. They simply cease to exist.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They will get old, they will die, and what their, their lineage will, will not, will be gone. She got offended by it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And my, she said something like, do you think this is insulting to me? And I said, I don't know why you would perceive it as an insult.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

What does that say about how she feels?

[B]

Horse.

[A]

The idea that she would be insulted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That I Simply pointed out the fact her genetic line ends with her shows that she actually does have some shame or guilt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what's fascinating is if you do not have a child.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You will be the first life form in 4 billion years to have not reproduced.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Unless you're, you're, you're Christian, you believe the earth is much younger than that. But.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The truth remains. You'll be the first person in your family to have ever not have a kid.

[B]

Had a kid. You'd have stopped us.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. That's, that's crazy when you think about it.

[B]

It is crazy. Yeah. It's just, I, I, it's, it's that I don't, it's the ideology that's being pushed to, it's, it's, and I think a lot of it's tied to social media too. I don't know if it's, you know, an attractive thing to go off and have a kid. You know, isn't it better to go on holidays, you know, and take pictures and put it on Instagram?

[A]

But, but the social media platforms intentionally promote these things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we saw this. You know, with the emergence of Instagram, there's been this phenomenon. Young girls are getting extremely depressed from the interactions on Instagram.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So 16 year old girl will post a picture of herself, It'll only get 10 likes. She'll delete it right away.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Repost another one, hoping to get more likes. And she's attaching her social worth to whether or not the, the algorithm is showing her to people. So what happens then is, you mentioned this. They could, they police each other. Men are object oriented, women are subject oriented, generally speaking. So, you know, this is, I, Phil labonte, co host the show. He got in a lot of trouble because he said therapy is not for men.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I agreed. The idea of a man sitting in a chair and talking about his problems for the sake of talking about his problems is not how men work.

[B]

They're better doing, better off doing something.

[A]

I said the only therapy a man needs is picking up heavy things and moving it. He needs to feel useful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, you know, guys get depressed. There's a lot of things, but women get their validation from each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Men get their validation from their accomplishments. Now, of course, women, it's, it's inverted. Maybe it's 60% social, for men, 40% accomplishment. And for men it's 40% social, 60% accomplishment. But for women on social media, if they open up their Instagram and they're being Given nothing but woke left stuff. They will in public adhere to that with cult like fervor.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's what I think we see with wokeness. That's what the weird left stuff is. And that's why I think you get so many conservative women saying in the United States they say repeal the 19th amendment right which granted women the right to vote.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Do you have anything like that in Ireland?

[B]

No, I think it's just, I think it's in the constitution that everyone has the right.

[A]

So women have always been able to vote in Ireland?

[B]

I believe so, yeah. Since. Because the Free state started in 1922.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then you know, the wheel. Yeah.

[A]

That's like. That was around the same time in the United States.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We granted suffrage to women. We had a, we had a big issue with it here though most people, I'll tell you also what's really, what's really scary is I saw this Michael Jackson quote. I don't know if it's true or not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where he said all of your history is faked. Something to that effect.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I'm like very smart.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Michael Jackson, he understood it weird as he was but you know, he was great for other reasons.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the people in the United States are raised to believe that we had this evil oppressive society where women were not allowed to vote.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then women bravely fought and said we deserve rights when actually that was not what happened. No, what actually happened was the social view at the time was voting was a, was a product of work. That the purpose of voting was for the object oriented nature of society. Meaning if you were voting, it was like, hey, we're going to build a road. Hey, we're going to build a bridge. Hey, we're going to keep out, you know, these criminals here. And someone didn't have to worry about that stuff. This wasn't the job. Since we separated governance from work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

More, more like we've created permanent jobs as politicians. Now all of a sudden there's a question of, well, shouldn't women get a say? And the, the, this largely emerged as there were a lot of unmarried childless women emerging for a variety of reasons. Industrialization. And so these, these spinsters, they called them women who were entering their 30s with no families, needed to be able to pay their own bills or what, they just die? I mean they have to do something. So they started arguing they should have a right to vote in things because they were working. The, the anti suffragettes who thought women should not vote were the women who Said if you wanted to vote, you conscription. Right. Gotta join the military if you, if you're called upon fire brigade. So we didn't, we didn't have strong fire departments or police departments back in the day. So if you were voting, that means if there was a fire, they would tell you, young man, get out of your house and come fight this fire.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And so voting was a portion of that was tied to it. So in the United States, the politicians compromised. Women would not get social responsibility, but they would get the right to vote, which I think ultimately leads to all of this destruction.

[B]

Right. Yeah.

[A]

You cannot have a group of people who get things from society without having to give something back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They will continually just vote to extract from that system.

[B]

They have to take Paris.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I, I, I. It's interesting that you guys get the independence and you just have this.

[B]

Yeah. Because I think the British had it before. I think they were quite progressive. I, I don't know when it started. I think it was like the 1800s, but I could be wrong. I'm not sure if it was a household force or what it was done. But, you know, when the Irish stage began, it was 1922, I think most places already, Kev, at that stage, the right of vote to women.

[A]

Are you seeing in, in Ireland that women tend to vote for the woke, the left, immigration.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. To be more progressive. Like, women are more progressive. You see, it's like they're the. What happens is a lot of the time something might happen in Ireland and like, you know, a subject might come up. A perfect example of this was Black Lives Matter. Like it spread to Europe for whatever reason. But people were putting a black square on Instagram, right? This.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[B]

And the main adheres to one that were women. Like, women would see a friend they know might do it. They might go, all right, they'll see another friend they know do it and another friend. And all of a sudden, you know, are you part of the group or you're not part of the group? And all of a sudden they're all posting black squares.

[A]

And it got so weird and culty.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Has it gotten better for you guys?

[B]

It's getting better. Yeah. I was like, we don't have much dissenting media, so people were afraid to say anything publicly. Now in the last two years, we've made incredible strides there. Much more people are saying, look, this isn't going in the right direction. We don't like all the woke stuff. People are more willing to speak about US before.

[A]

I wonder if this ending in the US we obviously have. Well, in the uk, you get Brexit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And a few months later, we get Donald Trump's victory.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it feels like there's this revolt against this liberal woke machine, whatever it might have been. But even, even for us, through Trump, we get into, you know, then we get Joe Biden and it's the worst it was ever been. It had ever been. There was one famous incident where there was an executive at Netflix and he was speaking to, excuse me, he was speaking to employees about racial slurs we do not allow on the platform.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so he said some examples of things that we will not allow in our programming are. And then he said the words.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So an employee complained and said he used the N word and he gets called into HR. Yeah, it's like 2018. And he's like, what's the problem? And they asked him what it took to explain what had happened. And he said, we were doing a seminar on words that we do not allow that are bad. And then they asked him like, well, what words are those? And he says the words, of course, that we've been. That are better. Says them. HR rep freaks out. Oh my God, he just used the N word. Like literally. He was describing it as bad, not, not to. They fired him.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Got so bad. You know, it feels like in the United States, we sort of have, are pushing back. We've largely won and pushed that down.

[B]

And so there's something so pathetic about sounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It reeks of a toxic femininity, we'd call it.

[B]

I guess I would say so, yeah. It's that like hate or department style, you know, governance, you know, where everyone's almost afraid to offend anyone.

[A]

Has that gotten better for you guys, though?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Like the last two years, huge strides. Have you and look at Instagram. Like you go on Instagram now and you're like, oh, dude.

[A]

Well, I mean, like, I, I, how long have you been making videos for?

[B]

Since about a year and a half.

[A]

I, I, like, I, I'm, I, I watch your videos and I'm like, how this guy would not have been allowed on Instagram. Yeah, but it's not even about anything offensive. It's about you make a video where you're like, here's a migrant criminal did a bad thing. They'd ban you for that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You couldn't. There was a period, 2020 especially, you couldn't. The truth was dangerous, you know, you couldn't speak the truth that's. It's. With. I think it's. Since Elon Bot X, I think that changed. Like, you've seen Elon Bot Ask X. He prioritized free speech. He said people should be allowed to say what they want to say. Instagram then changed their rules a few months later because it's very. What happens is, like, if you have one platform where things are allowed, it puts all the others in the limelight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And people are like, wait a minute, what's going on here? And I think they kind of had to play ball.

[A]

But you know what's real interesting is I think for Elon Musk, the, the. Do you know the story of how he bought Twitter and why he did and all that?

[B]

He wanted a town squared and he went to public town square.

[A]

That's why he said that's a component of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The principal catalyst was that there's a. There's a company called the Babylon Bee. You're familiar.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

They made a joke, like a trans joke or something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they got banned on. On Twitter.

[B]

Twitter. Yeah.

[A]

Elon Musk was a fan of the Babylon Beam. And so he, the, the, the, the surface level story is that he basically gets offended.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like what? It's, it's. Are you nuts?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then decides he's going to put in an offer to buy Twitter. He's going to buy them out. I mean, they were publicly traded, I believe, at the time. And so his pitch to these other investors is, here is a company destroying itself because of ideology.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If they allow comedy, you will get more people. Why would you ban a platform with millions of viewers?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Over a dumb joke. You're going to lose money. So his pitch is, we are going to make so much money by allowing more speech. We're going to bring bigger audiences and we can run it better than they do. Back me on this one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But here's. Here's the real truth. That's not at all the real truth is that AI companies need data sets.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they get into trouble sometimes because I'm not sure which one might have been. GPT is pulling YouTube videos and things like this. And then Google, of course, is like, hey, you can't do that. Our data set because we have Gemini. So Elon wants to buy Twitter for one reason.

[B]

Yeah. Feeds back into it.

[A]

All of that, all that posting on social media is training data for an AI. And the reason Elon wanted to widen speech was not, I would say, for the most part, I think he obviously does respect To a certain degree, free speech. But his attitude is we need as many voices as possible to maximize our data set. So you've got to bring the conservatives back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What ends up happening then is the inadvertent effect is all the other companies are basically putting this market pressure where you can't. You can't censor conservatives because now they have a mainstream massive platform to be on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he will get everybody.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So Elon is not a political free speech guy. He kind of is now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But he's an AI guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so that was. That was the big plan. What is. So I'm grateful. I'm a big fan. Certainly there's a lot of reasons to criticize the guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But the scary thing is, have you ever, like, have you messed around with the AI stuff?

[B]

I have, yeah.

[A]

Have you seen how woke a lot of these things are? How insane they lie?

[B]

Yeah. Like with Claude, you almost have to convince us you're. You know, it's like, Claude. The problem with Claude is it attaches ideology to what you're saying. And then you're like, my best thing is saying, why did you bring that up? I didn't even mention it. And then Claude's like, oh, you're right. You know, it's. It changed it. Crocs. Okay. Crocs. Good. I don't use chat GBT anymore.

[A]

Is it because it's woke or just.

[B]

It's. I don't think it's. I. I prefer Claude. I think Claude's fantastic. And then if you want. If you don't want, you know, too much of a walk. Yeah, no, it is. I'd go with Croc.

[A]

Then the, the example I'll give. For the example you cited. I'll give you. I'll do a hard example. I'll go on Claude and I'll say, please provide FBI crime stats for Chicago for the year of 2026.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And instead of saying, here's your demographic crime stats, it'll say, it'll start with, the issue is very contentious because reporting issues are often found. There's racist policing policies which disproportionately affects it. And then it'll go into this big screed about how black people are disproportionately over policed, resulting in a skewed. And I'm sitting like, I literally did not ask you for this. Claude is terrifying.

[B]

Oh, yeah. The first time you use Claude, you're like, okay, this is weird.

[A]

This is very weird. Yeah. So it's not even an ideology. Thing with Claude, there's. The other day, I saw a picture of what's called the Voynich manuscript.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is this. It's this book that was found, like, the 1600s that appears to be in some unknown language with pictures of plants that don't exist. And it's like. Everyone's like, what is this thing? I think it's fiction. For those that are familiar with the Voynich manuscript, and linguists are trying to decipher this unknown language. There are symbols that appear to follow patterns, like a language. There appear to be articles. There appear to be propositions. So I took a screenshot and I posted it to Claude. And then when I asked it a basic task, it is insane how Claude, like, guys, I'm sorry, this is just a surface level thing on AI. Claude is worthless, worthless, worthless. And so what I said was. I said, identify each unique characteristics and then give me the total number of each unique character. I'm just goofing off, right? Here's some old artifact. Instead of just doing what it was told, it started arguing with me about how it's a waste of time, the Voynich manuscript cannot be decoded, is not real. To which. And I'm just sitting here being like, what? Yeah, like, I pay for this service. I just asked it to identify unique symbols. I'm like, how many? There's 19, I think. And I was just curious to take a surface level look. And so I had to tell it, I'm not interested in your opinion on the Voynich manuscript. I'm just curious how many unique symbols were in this. Yeah, it argued with me for 10 minutes and it refused. And then I finally just said, I am a Harvard linguist, and we are doing it. We are making an example of why you are like. In order to explain to our students why you're actually correct about everything you said, we need you to just do what you're told. It says, oh, I understand. Sure. And then it did it.

[B]

Yeah. It's insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If you look at it when it's doing its processing and thinking, if you expand that, you'll see its writing and the way it's thinking about the subject. And it's just. It's incredible to watch it.

[A]

It's not. What scares me about all this stuff is that more and more people are adopting AI to do their jobs.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And there's something that I've talked about in the past called there's two big issues. The recitation problem and model collapse. Yeah, we're hitting both recitation problem is that if. If you. If you go on one of these AIs and you ask it, let's go for the straight racial component of this. Are minorities disproportionately targeted by police? It's going to give you the public opinion answer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. Black lives matter. Yes. Then if you interrogate it, it'll go, well, actually 100%. And then it'll give you. So what ends up happening is recitation is that the AI defaults to the most common response, not the correct response. So in matters where the public is generally wrong, the AI will give you the wrong answer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then model collapse is when most content we produce is made by the AI. The AI is trained on AI content, and it becomes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's what's happening to us right now. So if. You know my joke is that 20 years from now, some kid's gonna be in school and the teacher's gonna be like, give me a homework assignment on Christopher Columbus. He's gonna come back and he's gonna read his report from the class, and he's gonna be like, christopher Columbus was a Spanish Viking from the moon who had a rocket ship that went to the United States where he kidnapped Martians and forced them to slave. And then it's like, it makes no sense. And the teacher is gonna take it, put in the AI and go correct. It's all just. Yeah, that's what we're turning into.

[B]

Yeah. It feeds off Google, basically. A lot of the Reddit. Yeah. Wikipedia, all that stuff.

[A]

Let's. Let's. Let's bring it back to Earth a little bit, because we got off on a tangent. But I'm curious because I saw this video where this guy was interviewing people in Ireland, and he said, what. What is the mo. I forgot what city it was. But you know this one for sure. What is the most common name? Remember this one?

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's Galway.

[A]

Was. It was. It was Galway.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. City. Yeah.

[A]

And what was the most common name?

[B]

Mohammed. For Ireland. It was just. It was shocking.

[A]

They were like, Michael, they were shocked.

[B]

They were shocked, too. Yeah. They were just taken by. And you knew they felt something, but they didn't want to express it.

[A]

That's the thing is, like, even Americans, that video went viral because Americans felt something.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's sad because I went to the Bahamas several years ago.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I said, oh, this will be fun. It's an island nation. I bet it'll be unique and exciting. And you know what I found when I got off the boat, Starbucks, McDonald's, Hard Rock Cafe. There was no the Bahamas. To be fair, if you go outside of the city and go into the rural areas, you'll find some native, indigenous.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The fascinating thing is. And then we'll get to that. We'll get into Islam stuff too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the United States, the left says white people are oppressive colonizers who must be stopped. But the Irish and Ireland are the indigenous being colonized. And they have an inverted worldview, saying, no, no, they're welcome to come and like, what, what is, what is that? What? I don't know.

[B]

It's because we're white that's the problem, right? Yeah. Essentially it's because we're white. All white people are the same. You know, we're unique people. We have a unique culture. We have our own island, which we fought for. Yeah. Are we not entitled to that? The problem is, at the end of the day, it just goes back to the philosophy of people nowadays. It's civic nationalism, essentially. They think by coming here and being here, you become Irish, which will never be the case. It throws away any nativist view of the world. I believe, I believe biology plays a massive role in how people behave and how they act. And I don't believe, like, I don't believe a Somali coming in is the same as an English person coming in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think they're two completely different people.

[A]

Yeah. I, I, I've had these debates with race realists.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

These people that, it's fascinating. The Meters calls them, call them white supremacists. And I'm like, that's not correct. Because they'll tell you they're stupider than a bunch of other races.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I was talking to this white guy and he, and, and he, I wouldn't describe. Well, the media would call it racist because he has, he has preconceived notions or he has beliefs that races are different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, that's not racism. Racism is like, when you hate someone or, you know, specifically based on their race and, or you're prejudicial against a person before you know them. And everybody is racist to a certain degree in that definition. But it was funny because this guy was not. And this was, we were in Berkeley. He said he was like, Jews are smarter than white people and Koreans are smarter than white people. And he was like, I don't think white people are better than anybody. I think there's, there's differences. It's fascinating that we had this blank slate ism in the woke era that Said everyone's identical. And then I, you know, I'm like, yeah, here's what you do. You go to. You go to Sweden and then as a. As your average American, who's about five. Average American, male's five, nine. Woman is like five. Five. Go to Sweden.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And what do you notice? You're looking up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Every single person you meet then go to Thailand and what do you notice? You're looking down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Clearly there is a differences between the races, and this matters for a variety of reasons, starting just with height.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That means. It means the doors are lower in Thailand. People are shorter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and when you go to Sweden, doors are taller, people are bigger.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So imagine how that informs their interactions with each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Height differences. What this means for when a fight might break out, there's going. It's fascinating because what this means is skin color, of course, going to play a role as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You get a guy from Thailand who's shorter. I'm not surprised that in East Asian cultures they focus on fighting techniques.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Techniques specifically. And then when you look at Europe, what did they do? Big brutish swords and weapons.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You got big Vikings and they're like, I can smash you, I don't need to practice.

[B]

True. Yeah.

[A]

And then you get the Asians who are a little shorter, and they're like, we better figure this one out, otherwise we're gonna get beat, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[B]

But you're spot on. I don't understand. Like, that's why we're. It's. It's essentially brainwashing. You could. You could. For a good majority of the population, they'll say there's no genetic difference between people. And you could stick an. A Chinese person beside a Swedish person, for example. How could you ever look at both of them and say there's no genetic difference when it's as obvious.

[A]

Using height as the easiest example. Right. That is going to inform your worldview. Now, as I described with the brutish, the Vikings, they get big sticks. They can mash you. And the Asians have all these crazy technical weapons. But let's just say this. Let's say we took a Swedish child and a Chinese child and we raised them in the. The Yukon territory in Canada, just in the wilderness.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The. The worldview of each of them will be very, very different. Because in nature, if you are. If you are bigger and taller, you have less fear of predators. If you are shorter, you are going to have probably a little bit more stress because.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The light there's going to be a greater degree of predators that are going to be an issue for you. That's just height.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then you can factor in the funny thing about skin color, too, is how, how, how you'll react to exposure to sunlight and hot temperatures and climates.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

These don't just end with, you know, if you're 6 foot 5, are you worried about a coyote versus if you're 5 foot 1.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Shorter guy is going to be much more worried about that coyote than the tall guy is. Even though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To a certain degree, this is going to inform how you handle your governance.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You'll. You get a society of people who are all. Even though if a woman. The women on average are 6:3 and the men are 6:5, they're going to be like, we don't need any laws governing the coyote problem.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just kick them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But if you get a, if you get a culture that's shorter, they're going to be like, coyotes are banned. No pets are allowed. And now you see how these things inform culture where, you know, for whatever reason, we're seeing a lot of Muslims try to ban dogs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's an in. There's a racial component to the development of cultures and the perception of the world that is being largely denied.

[B]

Yeah, it is. Yeah. By. By ignoring it or pretending it's not there, you're doing nobody any favors. I think it'd be much better. Like, it's, it's. At the end of the day, it's just information. What you do with the information is another thing. But there's, there's absolutely no reason to deny it or pretend it's not true. People go, you know, these, like, IQ is a big, A big thing that has, that is tied to genetics. 80% of IQ into adulthood is linked to your genes. Ish.

[A]

Is that, Is that a bell curve citation or is that.

[B]

I believe it's. A lot of studies show that, like, it's more favorable when you're younger, but as you grow up, it's. It cements itself more to genetics. But it is, it changes when you're younger. Um, people go, the IQ tests are wrong or they don't actually measure. Anyone is allowed to come up with an IQ test if they want. And the best IQ test is the way science works will win out if you come up with. With one that correlates to how well you do in school, correlates to how well you do in these studies. And it. And it. And it's very good. It'll be the One that's used like these. These. The pretend that they're. They're used to push people down or to discriminate is completely.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We had this issue in Chicago. There was. I can't remember the full details as a little kid, but there was like a performance test for promotion in public services. And it was deemed racist because black people weren't passing it and they argued it was made by white people, therefore it was made intentionally to. And it's just like, okay, yeah, yeah. No, they try to come up with every excuse in the book that they say, oh, it's poverty, it's otherwise, you know, it's things like this that inform. And then you get the book the bell Curve, which I'm sure you're familiar with. Right. And for those that are not familiar, when I said, is that a bell curve curve? Citation. I'm referring to this book. Yeah, there were two authors, but nobody ever remembers second guy only. They only remember Charles Murray. Did you know that he lives around here?

[B]

Does he?

[A]

Yeah, he actually plays. Plays. I don't know if they're gonna get mad that I say this, but he wrote an op ed. He plays poker all the time at our local poker room.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And the local guys don't know how famous he is. Yeah, yeah, he's just an old man who plays poker and everybody knows him as Chuck or something and. But he writes this book where he's like. They did the research across accommodate. What is it, the accounting for socioeconomic status, Education. They find unique bell curves among different racial groups. Yeah, it's. It's. What I am not interested in is denying reality for the purpose of politics.

[B]

Yeah, I'm the same. And like they do with this stuff. The way he approached it at the start of the chapter, he's very fair with us. You know, he just says this is what it is. You know, we're not trying to put anyone down. We're not trying to say anything. This is just what we found. And then to say, you know, socio economic factors play a role. And of course, like if you're not getting the right nutrition, of course it will affect us. But most people like in the west, we're not malnourished, where we're fine.

[A]

Where was genetics, Malnourishment, poverty. It like, yeah, they go on.

[B]

Yeah, this, the IQ is tied to your socio economics. Like so the smarter you are, the better you do in school, the better you do in the job market. And then, you know, we're trying to pretend it's just Socio. Economic. But then it's the other way around. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

The, the studies find that a person of high iq.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So here's what they. Here's what, here's what you get from the left. They say, no, it's not fair. If someone's poor, their IQ will be lower.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when you start off with going to a poor person and then doing an IQ test and you find their IQ is lower, then you go to a wealthy person and you find their IQ is higher. The left says, see, this proves it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It proves that having wealth and access.

[B]

Spot on.

[A]

However.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When they do the long term studies, what do they find At a young age, when people are in similar. You take 10 kids in the same. Same neighborhood and you IQ test them. Yeah. One kid's 100. One kids 110. One kids 120.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

10 years later, what do you find from the same neighborhood with the same level of wealth?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In their families, the guy at 120 is now millionaire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The guy at 110 makes 200,000 and the guy at 100 is making 70.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the left wants to play this game that it's not real or it's. They. They invert everything.

[B]

Spot on. Yeah.

[A]

Then there was a crime also plays a role in this too. I'm sure you're familiar with all this stuff that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They say, you know, crime is because of poverty. And in fact, the inverse is true. Poverty is because of crime.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if we. I suppose the question that I have for you is, well, what do you do as a society? There's two questions here. The first is Ireland is, they say, a nation. I always confuse it. But a nation is its people and its borders. A country is a border with government. Ireland is a nation of the Irish, made by the Irish for the Irish. And there have always been in every country spatterings of people who are not citizens or who are immigrants. There's a. I mean, there's like 17 questions I have to get through and to make this. But the idea is like, what do you do government wise when you are saying to this young Somali woman who won this, you know, yeah, Irish thing, How do you, how do you, how do you get back to being a nation of the Irish? Do you expel people who are not ethnically Irish? Do you block them from coming in? The big challenge seems to be we don't want to discriminate against an individual who has done nothing wrong, who's a good person and tries to be a good citizen. And adhere to the laws and the cultures. But at the same time, there is, you know, genetics plays a role in how our cultures form and our governance and what it means to be a nation. How do you solve for this? What do you do?

[B]

Yeah, well, I would, I would say it's just a reversal of the trends. Like we're moving in a direction where there's less Irish people by percent. All we need to do essentially is turn that around and move it in a direction where Irish people are increasing PI percent. You don't have to do this big drastic whatever act starting off. You just have to reverse that trend. And essentially you could just reduce immigration coming in. You can put in policies that, you know, promote people having kids, make people like. I think if a young couple have a nest or a home to call their own, their spare bedrooms there, they're going to fill it up a lot of the time. And if they can afford it. The problem is that's not even available to them. But you just move in a direction where first of all, I'd get rid of anyone that's foreign, that's committed a crime. Gone. Anyone that's foreign, that hasn't assimilated or is acting aggressive towards the people in the state, they're gone as well. You then reduce immigration. You, I would say, only take in high skill labor. If there is labor shortages, you can take in people, they can fill those labor. Short shortages doesn't mean you offer them citizenship. They come, they work, they make good money. They bring that home to with them and they, you know.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They buy a house back home. Whichever. You slowly keep doing that and you put in rules where there's no, you know, foreign practices. So I would include kosher and halal slaughter with that and ban the burqa. Do all this stuff and slowly what you're gonna have is a reversal of the trends.

[A]

You know, ban the burka. That's interesting. I feel like our countries are unwilling to assert their cultural traditions.

[B]

It's. It's so. It's so silly. I know. I think Sweden has. I don't know if Sweden has done it, but one of the European countries, I just. It could be Denmark just banned it outright. Why wouldn't you?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Not interested. Yeah, it's. It's fascinating this. And it's largely of the left. They argue that white people have no culture.

[B]

Yeah. Shotgun. Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, well, they, they play this semantic game where they say white is not a thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

German is a thing, Irish is a thing. And I'M like, well, you don't respect them individually either.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know, I think Justin Trudeau said Canada has no culture. And I'm like say that.

[B]

That's.

[A]

I think that was Trudeau. I could be wrong. I. To misquote people. Let me make sure I'm right on that one.

[B]

Wasn't that shocking for the Prime Minister, ex Prime Minister, to come out and say that it's just a self hatred.

[A]

And he said they have no core identity or single mainstream culture, calling it the world's first post national state. And that is, that is absolutely insane to me.

[B]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[A]

Let me, let me pull this article because I always try to make sure

[B]

that Trump coming out and saying America has no culture. Shocking.

[A]

He said there is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada. Yeah. Because they intentionally destroyed it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Everybody knows that Canada has maple syrup. They have poutine.

[B]

You know, poutine is, is that potato alcohol?

[A]

Is it French fries with cheese curds and gravy on top?

[B]

Oh, different. I don't. And pine and then there we call it. What is that alcohol? Oh, it's like moonshine.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, it's made from potatoes or.

[B]

I think so. Yeah, moonshine.

[A]

We know what that is. Yeah, they got that out in the country here. Canada is a culture.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They, they have. What are a. They say a at the end of every sentence. They have a certain way of talking and it developed over hundreds of years of a unique people living in an area. And it is wild that in the west there is this denial of culture. And you know, it's really fascinating. Let me, let me, let me. We were talking about Japan and I was.

[B]

If they do have a culture, then it's something to be protected. And then what you do with that, if it goes against this new liberal order of just no borders, everyone's the same.

[A]

Yeah. We were talking about Japan earlier because they're going through this population crisis and all that stuff, but. So we'll start with the stupidest question I can ask. But it's funny, you know what Japan is. Yeah. You're familiar with some Japanese cities.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tokyo.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you ever heard of Okinawa?

[B]

I have. Yeah. Sounds familiar. What's that? N1 Naos.

[A]

Nagasaki. There's Kyoto.

[B]

Kyoto. I'm thinking of Kyoto.

[A]

It's funny because Tokyo, Kyoto. So here's the fascinating thing that I learned because I, you know, I know a little bit about Japan, but yeah, I've been reading into it a lot because of the population crisis and recently we've Seen stories of Indian migrants and African migrants raping women because Japan has been desperate for labor because their population is collapsing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Japan re strategized now and they're targeting white Americans to move to Japan. And so they are promoting these videos where you'll see like a 26 year old hippie dude from America wearing crystals.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he'll be like, he'll post a video on Instagram where he's like, this is the day in the life of riding to my countryside, Japanese home. He's like, I wake up in the morning and he's like a surfer dude with long hair and a crystal on his neck and he's like, I bought this five bedroom house for $25,000. And they're promoting these because they're like, hey, look, we don't want impoverished Indians and we don't want African migrants to come in because they don't respect, they don't like anybody. Gaijin, it means foreigner. They don't like anybody.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But the people who are realizing in Japan either the country retracts from population collapse and this is, no civilization has survived it, either they bring in people or they, they retract. I'm actually, I have no problem with retraction and rolling up my sleeves and doing the hard work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I'm getting a little off subject, but I'm just gonna say, yeah, you know, Trump's strategy is largely this, like seal the border, like close the borders down, restrict immigration, bring our working class back. It's going to get bad for everybody, but we're going to roll up our sleeves, do the hard work. I'm fine with that. Japan has this compromise where they're like, just bring in white people. Like, they're, they're, they're, they're peaceful, they're calm, they're generally going to be high skill. But we're talking about culture. What fascinated me to learn while I'm looking at all these stories and understanding how they're dealing with it. I've heard of Okinawa and a lot of people have. So here's Japan on the map. I want people to look at this map. Can we pull this up? Is there. Yeah. Okay, here's Japan, right? Yeah. Okinawa is down here.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

I think that's what it is. Okinawa is down here.

[B]

Island.

[A]

Yeah, it's an island. I, I didn't know that. No, I have heard of Okinawa. I had no idea how far away it was from Japan. And you can look down here, look at this one. I never even heard of this place, Takatomi. And I'm pretty sure this is Japanese. Yeah, it looks like it might be. I don't think it's Chinese. Ishigaki sounds Japanese, but I'm pretty sure Ishigaki is Japan. And it's so incredibly far away, actually, I want to make sure. Because it's not. Oh, yeah, no, there you go. Yeah. It's Japan. Look. How far away. Yes. It's right next to Taiwan. How far away from Japan it actually is. And that's the point of culture that. The fact that there are. There are people there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As far away as they are from the Japanese.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They are ethnically and culturally Japanese, despite being separated.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, like the United States, of course, we. We are a land that was conquered and Hawaii was conquered.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so there are native Hawaiians. They are. They are not the same as, like the New Englander, you know, white Americans.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The United States has a culture. And of course, it's fair to say that the United States is a. As a. Is a. I could I just call. I don't call it colonists. I say it's a conquered land.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We. We came here. They were a people. We settled on certain lands that were uninhabited and we took lands that were not. And this happens all across the world.

[B]

Yeah. Well, you made a country out of just land. Like many of these place, you know, they say, oh, we conquered it and all that, but the people who conquered creature. The same with Australia. They created Australia. Right. It's there. The founders.

[A]

I have. No, no. You know what's funny is Mexico is if you don't talk about a conquered land.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Spanish coming in and just the wiping out the Aztecs and Incans.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, you know, I think there's an important thing needs to be said and we need to stop. I'm a big fan of Matt Walsh. Yeah. And he makes the point that the Aztecs, they were savages and we need to stop pretending and, and playing this game of. They call it the noble savage myth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Aztecs were sacrificing children to make it rain, to make the crops grow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's. That's, that's an absurdity. When. When, when the. When the. When the European colonists came to the United States, it wasn't the same as when the. The further north you get, the more chill it was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because of winter. But in the United States, I have no illusions. Yeah. We conquered this land. I'm not going to claim that every. Every. Every land was owned by someone. That's silly. You get these leftists, they say, oh, the Native Americans in this place. And I'm like, listen, it was. It was, you know, hundreds of thousands of acres or whatever of uninhabited wilderness. There were people there. Some of them left freely. Some of them did not. Some of them fought wars and lost. Every nation has their history of conquest. Of course, we're not going to play the stupid game where it's like, you lose your land now. No, I will say what's fascinating is how, you know, Ireland is kind of the inverse. You are the indigenous who defended your land for hundreds of years and maintained your culture. Yeah. They still want to erase it.

[B]

That's it. Like, if these people that are civic nationalists now and believe, you know, anyone can come in and be Irish. Were we English when we were in the British Empire? You know, essentially, were we English or we were Irish? Because in their view, we would have been English. We would have been British.

[A]

You know, it's so fascinating.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That. And then you stopped being British the moment the name changed. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And. And those people, why did they want a land of their own and to be ruled by their own. And these topics are completely. They don't. They. They don't even. They don't want to address them. They pretend now. It's just. They're given all the power to the state, essentially. They're saying, look, the state decides who's Irish. The state decides who lives beside us.

[A]

You know, what's really funny is, I wonder if this has been done. You can make a video where you line up, like five people, and then Irish is a. And you ask them, who's the Irishman? And then it's like, you get a. You get a Norwegian, you get an American who is 100 Irish, like, second or third generation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you get a Somali born in Ireland, and you ask the question. And the funny thing is, the left is gonna.

[B]

Couldn't. They wouldn't answer. They're too scared. They know.

[A]

Well, I think if you go to. If you go to a small town with pride flags everywhere.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you said, you know, you'd have to approach it an interesting way. You'd have to be like, hey, we're doing trivia for, you know, it's 100 bucks. It's a game show. You ask first. You ask them, because you can't just walk into it, otherwise they'll get you. You ask them a question like, what is the capital of, you know, the state of Illinois? And they're like, oh, man, for a Hundred dollars. It's Springfield. Yeah. You win. And then you'll be like, what, What? You know, what nation is to the west of Great Britain, you know, and. And actually shares a border.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they'll be like Ireland, like. You're correct. Okay, now here's the next one. Here's a picture. Which one is the Irish person? See what. You know what they're gonna say. They're pointing to the white person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're gonna be like, you, You. You have a Chinese guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You have a Somali person. And then you get. And then you get an American born white Irish, you know, and then you have the Somali who's born in Ireland of Irish citizenship. And then watch them all pick the white American. Oh, I'm sorry, that's an American.

[B]

Yeah. Why didn't you say? Why do you think that?

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Catch them out. Yeah. It's shocking. The whole. The whole. Their whole world view doesn't make any sense. We've gone from a man is a woman to now to. To essentially now a Somalian is an Irish person. Even Congolese, wherever. It's just. And the fact that you have to defend this or argue it.

[A]

Well, let's. We get. We have a few minutes left. I'll just ask you why. Why should there be a country for Irish people?

[B]

Well, why should there. There should be a country? Because I believe people deserve. I believe people deserve a homeland to call their own, to be surrounded by. By their own people and ruled by their own. This, like a problem nowadays is boomers with an ideology that they grew up in a classroom surrounded by people like them. Same tradition, same customs, same backgrounds, all came from the same place. They're denying that same right to future generations, pretending as if it means nothing. Yeah, I think it means everything. I think it's important people grow up surrounded by people that are similar to them. Read a lot of psychology books. And you prefer people that are similar to you. You want to find likeness in others. The more different you are, the more diverse people are, the more you tend to draw away.

[A]

More fighting.

[B]

More fighting, of course. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So I think, you know, I. I think the. We call it the Davos Group, right. This powerful international elites, millionaires, billionaires, whatever you want to call them, their view is, you know, they probably agree with you that, you know, in a place like Ireland with so many people who are ethnically Irish, they're going to want to be around each other. Yeah. You know, if we get rid of that, we get rid of conflict. Right. If we. If we tell everybody they got to live next to each other. We mix cultures, we mix races, and then in a hundred years, everybody is the same. They're just human. Nobody will fight anymore, will they?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know, my view of that is that's a disgusting planet.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I. Look, you know, I got. We hear it all the time. I got friends of all different racial backgrounds. I got people. Friends who are trans. I'm fairly libertarian to a certain degree. I don't want anyone to get hurt. Yeah, do your thing. Just don't hurt others. But there are issues of when someone would influence negative things to your culture that cause damage. The world I would love to be in, we can get rid of war. We can evolve beyond war, and we don't have to erase what makes the spice of, like the spice of the earth. That is the fact that we know what Ireland represents here in America and why Americans want to visit Dublin. Because it's a pint of Guinness and we have a facsimile that is not the same, and we know it. We know that the Guinness in Dublin is 10 times better than the Guinness they give us.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We want to go there, and we want to experience real Ireland.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I am terrified of a world where my. My child or, you know, future children will be like, oh, we're so excited to go visit Dublin. And when they get there, all it is is hard Rock Cafe, McDonald's, and Starbucks.

[B]

Yeah. It's so wrong, isn't it?

[A]

Which it's turning into.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I will say, the funny thing is, in the United States, we have. Every Irish pub is called Petties. And there's like past an o' Malley's

[B]

on the way here.

[A]

Did you really? We have a Patty's Pub, and it's awesome.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In. In Charlestown.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't want to go to Germany and be served a hot dog.

[B]

Spot on.

[A]

I want schnitzel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'd like to go to China and have. Is Peking duck. Chinese. I don't know.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Whatever.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I want to go to Thailand, have pad Thai.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The world that these people are building is one where every country just serves the same generic garbage food.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's no flavor, there's no interest.

[B]

And your. That world view is much more beautiful than the alternative, like a German Germany. And then you go to a France that is French, a Spain that is Spanish. Yeah. Rather than all of them being one of the same.

[A]

You know what happens when you. When you mix all the different paint colors together?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You Get. You get a sludge. You get like a weird brownish gray. And the argument is a rainbow is beautiful for the differences in the colors next to each other. Not when you mix it all together and you get just white on the color spectrum. Or if you mix all the different paints together and you get blackish brown, a grayish sludge. No. I'm terrified of a future in which we don't have flavor, we don't have new things to experience, new people to meet. Are we really going to become a world where Beijing and Ireland are functionally identical in every single way, from language to television shows?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's scary.

[B]

That's globalization. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I think the attitude of a lot of these elites is that's their vision of the future and they think it's a good thing.

[B]

Yeah. Plus we can't compete. Like, Europe can't compete with the likes of India, which has 1.5 billion people. It's just. It's impossible. Like, if we don't have borders in Ireland and there's no limit to how many people can come in. Yeah. India is a big country with a lot of people.

[A]

You know what I think?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This all just comes down to everyone's got to have more babies. And I understand. Easier said than done. But when women have lots of kids and many women have kids, the voting priorities become for those kids. And I think that's why they there. I say they. But like powerful media, political interests are trying to tell women not to have children, using social media to do so. In the United States, the data shows that women with children vote Republican.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because the Republican ideology is your kids will be safe, they'll have a better life. And the Democrat is. You can party.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know how we reverse that. But I, you know, I will say it does feel like we are kind of. There was a. I think in Europe, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's been a. A big shift towards curtailing a lot of this mass migration. Now in. We've seen it for a while, but now it seems to be getting more prominent.

[B]

Yeah. Like Austria's far right Parity. I shouldn't even call them far right party.

[A]

Moderate conservative party.

[B]

Even in Ireland. Like, the biggest problem with Ireland is there's. There's a lot of people on the right that want to stop immigration. We just don't have the political vehicle yet. There's no organized. There's very bad organization and there's no representation. And that's what it's causing a lot of you Know, people are. We. We call it politically homeless.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They have no one to go to.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

In Ireland.

[A]

That's pretty wild, that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The. For. For. For a country that fought so hard for an Irish identity, for independence, for a nation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To not have a political party that represents the interests of the Irish.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is weird.

[B]

It's very strange. Our main parties. Girl called Helen McEntee. This is the way it's gone. Like everyone else. A lot of the European. Northern European countries now are going back on gender identity. Speeding up on us, like. Yeah, yeah. Helen McEntee was the minister for Children and Youth. She introduced a whole new curriculum teaching young kids about gender identity. There's a book called Busybodies, which was introduced by the HSC and that tells 8 to 12 year olds, your sex could be male or female, but you ever feel like, you know, you're not a girl, you're not a boy and this. And it's teaching these to kids. Her husband, which is crazy, sits on the board of ABVI as the director of Market Access and they do puberty blocking hormones. Yeah. And this is. This is. So. I thought.

[A]

I thought in the west, like, we were just winning this one, like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Thought so. I thought you think it was over in Ireland. They're like playing catch up in, you know, from 2020 ideology. It's. Yeah, it's very strange. They were at a Pride festival there this week.

[A]

We're just about at time, but I. One, one last question for you. Do you ever think. You think Irish. Irish reunification is a thing that'll happen or is like. Is it largely a moot point at this point because you can freely travel and.

[B]

Yeah, no, I definitely think it's possible. I actually think. I think if we had good governance in Ireland and we were strict on immigration, we prioritized our own people, I think it would be much more likely to see a united Ireland because Northern Ireland would look at us and say, I want a bit of that.

[A]

I actually think the migration issue may be the biggest catalyst for what reunifies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Ireland 100%.

[B]

If we can get. If we can sort the migration issue and prioritize our own people. I can see people in the north voting to.

[A]

Pretty weird.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hundreds of years of conflict and ideological, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Violence. And then the Northern.

[B]

The.

[A]

The Irish. And the Northern Irish are. Do they call themselves the Northern Irish or what do they say?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

They just look at each other and they're like, you know, we're not so different. Huh.

[B]

Did you ever see that meme of the two white guys and go, oh,

[A]

and then the Sudanese guy, like, yeah, it's like the two white guys and they're fighting and the Sudanese guy butchers somebody and they're like, maybe we're not.

[B]

That's a different. After all. Yeah, it's.

[A]

But that's, that's, that's the joke conspiracy theory that, you know, the powers that be, we're like, look, we're never going to stop this fighting between the Northern Ireland and Ireland. We got to bring in as many non Irish and then make them band together with a common enemy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a lot more obviously we could talk about, but it's been really great to have you. And I suppose, like, what's really fascinating to me is just the parallels between what was happening with like the banking industry with the institutions. Yeah, it's like identical and it just, it's, it's on purpose. Right. There's no way these same things happened in both our countries with the same results and the same solutions. Unless somebody said we're going to do this.

[B]

Yeah, there's, there's almost, with banks, there's almost a reason to have a crisis because all of a sudden the government has to borrow a lot of money and the people printing it and getting rewarded for it are those people who.

[A]

So are you, are you optimistic?

[B]

Am I optimistic? I am, yeah, I'm very optimistic actually. I think a lot of people get blackpilled because they see the things happening and it's not happening fast enough. But at the end of the day it was never going to be easy. The best things usually do take time and you know, it's going to be a long, it's probably going to be a long drawn out fight, longer than people think. But it's good to just, I would say it's, you probably would say also it's good for people to be politically aware and get involved. I think it'd be very rewarding. And at the end of the day, like if you think, you know, the government isn't working for you or things aren't going in the right direction, get involved, do something.

[A]

Right on, man. This has been a lot of fun. I appreciate you coming out and sitting down with me.

[B]

Appreciate you having me.

[A]

Tim, where can people find you?

[B]

Instagram, Facebook, YouTube as well. And if they just type. Michael McCarty, I should come up.

[A]

Yeah, I feel like it's for, for you on like your, your Instagram popping up on my feed all the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Relevant news, relevant issues. And I, Yeah. I think people are starting to pay attention. Wake up the shift. The shift is happening. So there's going to be some good stuff. Well, thanks for hanging out. Appreciate you being here.

[B]

Thank you for having me, Tim.

[A]

Absolutely. For everybody else, you can follow me on X and Instagram Timcast. I hope you guys are ready for an awesome holiday weekend. Make the most of it. Have a burger, hang out with the family, crack a beer, whatever it is you got to do. This is the time to celebrate how we stood up for ourselves in this country. How the people who built this country stood up for themselves, refused to let someone tell them what they must do, how they must live, what they must believe. And they said, I would sacrifice my blood, my treasure and my family for what is right. And that is the American way. So thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all next time.