Trump Announces Israel Hamas PEACE PLAN SIGNED Israel To WITHDRAW Troops w/ Shayne Smith & Myron Gaines

Summary

Timcast IRL – Trump Announces Israel Hamas PEACE PLAN SIGNED, Israel To WITHDRAW Troops w/ Shayne Smith & Myron Gaines

Date: October 9, 2025
Host: Shane Smith (guest host, filling in for Tim Pool)
Guests: Myron Gaines, Seamus Coughlin, Brett Dasovic

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Overview

This episode centered on the breaking announcement of a peace deal brokered by former President Trump between Israel and Hamas. The panel dissected the peace plan, its implications for U.S. foreign policy, skepticism on all sides, and the broader context of foreign intervention. They also discussed rising domestic issues including a thwarted attack on a major church, left-wing online extremism, Trump’s push to designate Antifa as a foreign terror organization, and expanding interior immigration enforcement. The conversation repeatedly returned to themes of media manipulation, masculinity, and American cultural identity.

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Main Discussion Segments & Insights

1. Israel–Hamas Peace Plan and Trump’s Role

[07:24–14:41]

Announcement & Initial Reactions

• Shane introduces the peace plan: “Israel and Hamas reach an agreement on first phase. I'm curious about how many phases there are and what they are, but the first phase of a plan to stop fighting, release hostages and prisoners.” [07:24]
• Myron raises skepticism: “I don't really trust the Israelis ever when, whenever they try to strike these deals… They were supposed to be a deal just like this… in the beginning of the year. And they kind of backed after the first one… used it for their own purposes.” [07:51]

Dynamics Behind the Deal

• Discussed prior deals negotiated but not honored; skepticism that this deal will result in durable peace.
• Myron suggests Trump benefited from timing: “This was a big W for him to come in. Basically already getting a cease fire going and… getting the aid back into Gaza, doing a hostage exchange.” [08:56]
• Shane observes, “It does seem like the Israelis are buying time so that they can cause as much collateral damage as possible." [09:10] (Sharp critique)

Intended Goals & Hurdles

• Myron details main sticking points: “One of the big hang ups here… they want Hamas to completely disarm… and obviously they want hatches within 72 hours… Israel pulling back to a decided upon line…” [11:19]
• Skepticism that real disarmament or sustained withdrawal will happen.

Broader Policy Critique

• Seamus (on U.S. interest): “The America first position is that this isn't our fight. I don't think the United States needs to have any involvement.” [14:11]

Notable Quote:

“It never feels like nobody actually buys into peace as like as an idea anymore, because they know that it's just cyclical anyways… I don't even care on foreign policy, even thinks of it anymore as a game that you can win. It's just something that's recycled and starts over and over again...”
— Brett Dasovic [13:38]

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2. Domestic Terrorism: Basilica Bomb Plot & Extremism

[21:09–28:29]

• Shane introduces the church bombing attempt in DC: “Apparently, some psychopath leftist dude who named Lewis Jerry… went up to The Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle, pitched a tent, homeless style, and then I guess … just kept bringing explosives… and then gave up immediately without a fight, and then handed them his diary also.” [21:09]
• Panel ridicules the attacker’s incompetence and narcissism (“Start a Tumblr; you don’t have to try to blow up a church, you dork.” – Shane [22:20]), using it to lampoon the left wing’s approach to terrorism.
• They discuss FBI and law enforcement response: “We say we catch the dumb ones.” – Myron [24:23]
• Extended riff on manifestos, referencing past domestic terrorists (Unabomber, BTK, Zodiac), mixing macabre humor with insights on criminal investigation.

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3. Escalating Antifa & Left-Wing Online Extremism

[36:33–41:12, 51:40–54:45]

• Discussion of recent anarchist website doxing ICE agents: “At least four ICE facilities in Chicago have been surveilled with detailed layouts, diagrams and photos posted, which is like again this is that, that like weird situation we're in where you're like, okay, that's really sketchy and intense and scary...” – Shane [36:33]
• Noted dramatic increase (1,000%) in assaults on ICE agents.
• Panel expresses frustration at law enforcement and mainstream media’s soft-pedaling of leftist violence, compared to aggressive prosecution of January 6 participants.
• Seamus points out leftist rhetorical strategy: “Every single accusation from the left is always an admission. You probably noticed a couple of years ago they started using this phrase, stochastic terrorism…” [44:56]

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4. Immigration Enforcement & U.S. Policy

[41:12–48:50, 58:43–66:00]

• Myron details internal workings of ICE/HSI enforcement, the differences between Obama/Biden/Trump eras, and the complexities of expedited removals vs. NTAs:

  “When Trump was in… You’re getting expedited removal. So within two weeks, you had to get out of here. They were deporting them right back. Like they were catching them. They’re giving them an er, which counts as actual, real, real deportation.” [42:18]

• Emphasis on the scale and range of immigration fraud (“People come from these like, you know, first world socialist countries like Canada, Australia, France, etc. come here all the time. Overstay…” [58:43]), highlighting that “illegal” immigration isn’t only an issue with southern border crossers.
• Myron: “Everything. Oh, it's just Mexicans and people coming in for. From third world. No, bro. People are coming in from the first world as well and beating us in many different ways.” [58:52]

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5. Trump’s Move to Designate Antifa as a Foreign Terror Organization

[51:40–54:45]

• Panel reacts to Trump’s declaration (clip played): “If you designate them as a FTL [Foreign Terrorist Organization], now, you can start using intel service intelligence services on them. How do you guys think we're up these drug cartels right now? ... once you designate them as a terrorist or foreign terrorist organization, now the intel community is involved.” – Myron [52:28]
• Discusses the legal and tactical expansions such designation would bring, including more robust intelligence collection and military involvement.
• Some humorous jabs (“That was the plot of Sicario 2.” – Brett [53:34])

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6. Culture, Masculinity, and the Manosphere

[69:00–82:21]

• Shane and Myron critique Kamala Harris’ claim in her new book that she “lost young men to the manosphere,” with Myron responding, “You never had the young men in the first place…” [69:02]
• Extended discussion on why men are abandoning the left: authenticity, male spaces destroyed, and alienation from media messaging (“This is what the left has been doing a really shitty job with because look at all the top left wing political commentators. Do you think you're going to sit and have a beer with Hassan Piker?” – Myron [69:48]).
• Dissection of advertising and pop culture’s feminization: The Gillette ad and its backfire with men (“A men's razor company is ostracizing their client base to appease to an opposite gender that doesn't really buy their razors.” – Myron [72:07])
• Advocates for restoration of male-only spaces and traditional cultural values.
• Myron: “I really, really don't think women should vote or be in positions of power in the United States at all.” [86:28] (controversial, presented with zero challenge from the panel.)

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7. American Identity, Assimilation, and Immigration Moratorium

[58:43–66:39]

• Myron: “The other problem, too, is like, people don't come here, right, to assimilate. They come here to bring their culture in here. They don't want to assimilate. They want to bring all their weird third world stuff with them. And this is a problem.” [61:50]
• Debate over the “immigrant success story” as part of American mythology versus the loss of cohesive American culture.
• Repeated suggestion from Myron that a full immigration moratorium for “5-10 years” is necessary and that the U.S. legal immigration system is fundamentally broken.

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8. Women in the Military/Politics & Gender Roles

[75:29–82:21]

• Extended critique of women in combat roles, female political leadership, and broader female suffrage—“I don't think women should ever have power. I don't even think women should have the right to vote. If we're going to be honest, I think we need to repeal the next, the 19th Amendment.” (Myron, [75:28])
• Discussion presented as “hard truths” regarding sex/gender differences and what makes a functional society. Introduces the notion that women are “wired to submit to one person… their husbands.”
• Panel says growing gender gap in ideology is a worldwide problem, referencing a chart on Korea and other countries.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Israel–Hamas deal:

  “Complete disarmament is not even an option. That would be like asking America or Iraq to disarm. ... These peace deals ... they're always pretty vague and nebulous, especially when it comes to our commitments on the west versus their commitments are very black and white.”
  — Shane Smith & Myron Gaines [12:32–12:54]

• On left-wing terrorism:

  “Here's the thing about the left is they're the worst at terrorists.”
  — Shane Smith [22:54]

• On male/female communication:

  “The way you say something is so much more important than what you say. For women.”
  — Shane Smith [81:18]

• On migration and assimilation:

  “People come here to bring all their weird third world stuff with them… It used to be people come here and they assimilate. They don't do that anymore.”
  — Myron Gaines [61:50]

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Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic / Segment | | ----------- | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | | 07:24-14:41 | Israel–Hamas Peace Plan – Announcement, Skepticism, Trump’s Role | | 21:09-28:29 | Basilica Bomb Plot – Domestic Terrorism & Manifestos | | 36:33-41:12 | Anarchist website targeting ICE, Left-wing extremism | | 41:12-48:50 | Immigration Enforcement, Interior Operations | | 51:40-54:45 | Trump Classifies Antifa as Foreign Terror Organization | | 58:43-66:00 | Immigration Fraud, Assimilation, Call for Moratorium | | 69:00-82:21 | Manosphere, Gender Roles, Media, Women in Power/Military |

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Tone & Style

The entire episode was uncensored, irreverent, and characterized by rapid-fire banter, dark humor, and sharp political/cultural commentary. The guests frequently intermingled serious analysis with jokes and jabs at public figures or “the left.” Serious points about policy and society were routinely delivered with gallows humor, particularly around topics like terrorism, gender, and the failures of the mainstream media.

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Key Takeaways

• The Israel–Hamas deal is met with deep skepticism; panelists view it as more about appearances and political capital (especially for Trump) than genuine prospects for lasting peace.
• Panel expresses a consistent “America First/Non-intervention” skepticism toward Middle Eastern entanglements and a rejection of both political parties' records.
• Domestic law enforcement is portrayed as both politically hamstrung and overburdened—especially handling leftist-driven terrorism and immigration crime.
• The left is depicted as culturally dominant in media and corporate discourse but losing the battle for men—due to lack of authenticity, anti-male rhetoric, and feminized messaging.
• Immigration is labeled by Myron as a “crisis on all fronts”—not just about the border but abuse of legal systems, with calls for a decade-long moratorium and total system reform.
• The manosphere’s allure is explained as a backlash to the disregard and demonization of men by mainstream media and establishment politicians.
• Blunt (often very controversial) assertions about gender roles, suffrage, and American identity were made, with little-to-no internal debate among the panel, reflecting a strongly held shared worldview.

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Episode Summary in One Line

A raw, controversy-laden roundtable dissecting the Trump-brokered Israel–Hamas peace deal as political theater, denouncing current immigration and security policy, and laying out the case for a return to hardline, tradition-oriented American culture and masculinity.

Transcript

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[Shane Smith]

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[Seamus Coughlin]

Host?

[Shane Smith]

I am Tim. Tonight I am in charge and you are with me. So I'm actually very nervous for this. This is very big beanie to fill and I'm trying. I'm going to try my best. And we're all excited to be here. We got some boys here this evening. We're chilling so hard. We have some pretty crazy stories, so we're going to go over a few. I'm just going to run these down real quick before we start this ad read. But Israel, Hamas reach an agreement on the first phase of peace. What is going on with that? That's crazy. Trump does a whole tweet about it. We'll talk about it. We're gonna talk about this leftist insane person who pitched a tent outside of the National Basilica and then tried to blow it up. So. And then apparently he had his diary on him, which he gave away immediately. Uh, we're gonna talk about an anarchist website that targets ICE agents, post blueprints of Chicago things. Who knows? And now Trump is finally gonna classify antifa as a foreign terrorist organization. Pretty sick. Pretty good. We're gonna get to all these and more coming up soon. Stay tuned. But first, a few words from the man, Tim himself.

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[Seamus Coughlin]

One of them's in this room. Dude, I don't know how you did.

[Shane Smith]

Absolutely crazy that I just did that. Okay, let's get to the guests. Let's get this show started. I'm very excited. We have some boys here tonight. All right, we're gonna have a good time. First up, everyone, we got the very powerful Myron Gaines in the studio.

[Myron Gaines]

So, guys, happy to be here. Myron Gaines, one half of the Fresh Fit podcast. Thank you for having me.

[Shane Smith]

All right, this next guy right here needs no introduction, and yet I will give him one. It's Seamus, everyone.

[Seamus Coughlin]

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[Shane Smith]

All right, next up, he needs no introduction because he has sold more Kaiser frames than any man on earth. And none of you know what that means.

[Brett Dasovic]

No, they don't.

[Shane Smith]

But he's a skater and I love him. It's Brett Dasovic, everybody.

[Brett Dasovic]

What is going on, guys? Is Brett. Yes. Normally we are doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday, 3:00pm Eastern Standard Time. But tonight we're going to talk about politics. Let's get into it.

[Shane Smith]

All right. All right, everyone. So first up, this is the story. This is the story right this is crazy. Israel and Hamas reach an agreement on first phase. I'm curious about how many phases there are and what they are, but the first phase of a plan to stop fighting, release hostages and prisoners. So this means Israel's prisoner swapping as well.

[Myron Gaines]

And.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, so this is nuts. Myron, you're a Middle east guy.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, I mean, I don't really trust the Israelis ever when, whenever they try to strike these deals. They were supposed to be a deal just like this, a three part deal in the beginning of the year. And they kind of backed after the first one, after they got like, I think they did like an exchange for like 33 hostages or something.

[Brett Dasovic]

How long Trump between, like when it was announced to when they pulled out.

[Myron Gaines]

It took place like before Trump even got sworn in on the 20th, and then they ended it by early March.

[Brett Dasovic]

So the plan was in effect before Trump was even in office. Does it.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, he negotiated it and then it went into effect before he came in. And by the time he was sworn in, it was already kind of in effect. And then it kind of fell out the wayside by March because there was supposed to be a second phase which would eventually lead to a permanent cease fire. But the Israelis never want a permanent cease fire.

[Brett Dasovic]

So is the idea that Trump is in office from the get go for this one going to affect it?

[Myron Gaines]

Possibly, I think. Because what I think is, you know, this is me speculating here because Biden had tried to strike a very similar deal on his way out and he wasn't able to get it. I think what Trump was able to do is like, hey, look, Bibi, don't, you know, keep doing what you're doing. Wait until I come in so I can get credit for this. Because obviously he campaigned on, I'm the president of peace, right. I'm going to end the wars.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So this was a big W for him to come in. Basically already getting a cease fire going and, you know, getting the aid back into Gaza, doing a hostage exchange. Everyone's all happy for about two months. And then early March hits and then they stop. They pretty much cut the deal there. The Israelis cut the deal there.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, I vaguely remember that. It's, it's frustrating. It does seem like the Israelis are buying time so that they can cause as much collateral damage as possible.

[Myron Gaines]

Yes.

[Shane Smith]

Kill as many as possible. As many people as possible. They know they can't keep it up forever. Technically, though. Kind of seems like they might.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, it seems like they might. I think the goal is to. Because they've destroyed like 90 plus percent of the Gaza Strip. And at this point it's really about making it inhabitable so that they can say, oh, you know what, it kind of sucks here. We can't really rebuild anything for you guys. You should probably just go to Egypt or Libya or Lebanon or any of these other countries. Or Jordan.

[Brett Dasovic]

I thought Trump was going to build a mall there anyways. Yeah, something about building a mall there.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, he wanted to build condos, beautiful beachfront property, the whole deal. I'm going to read the, the tweet or some of the tweet tweeted out. So he said, I'm very proud to announce that Israel and Hamas have both signed off on the first phase of our peace plan. This means that all of the hostages will be released very soon and Israel will withdraw their troops to an agreed upon line as the first steps towards a strong, durable and everlasting peace. Yeah, all parties will be treated fairly. I'm just gonna read the rest of it, actually. He said this is a great day for Arab and Muslim world. Israel, all surrounding nations and the United States. Big ups to us. I guess we want to thank the mediators from Qatar, even though Israel blew a bunch of them up recently. Egypt, even though they're useless and with Israel and Turkey, who is also useless and evil. I don't know. All these people are not doing great to. Edragon is. Or how do you say his name? Erdogan. That guy's not very good. What's he doing with the Kurds up there in Turkey?

[Myron Gaines]

Just steals elections, pretty much just makes false promises.

[Shane Smith]

Is he not like doing a little bit of like a little murdering, a little killing?

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, blowing people up?

[Shane Smith]

They're fighting the ypg. What, what's that Kurdish group up there? We don't have to talk about all this. But anyway, so, yeah, Donald Trump is pumped. Everyone in the Middle east is pumped.

[Jeff Bridges]

I.

[Shane Smith]

There's no good actors in the Middle East. It's like Armenia and that's it.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

You know, is Armenian, is. That's Europe. Right?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Well, what do we count that? The Balkans.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

All right.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. With this whole situation here again, like, you know, Trump's making a push for the Nobel Peace Prize. Right. I think we all know that. Yeah. Trying to, he's really trying to get it right to add to his accolades. So, you know, this is good, I guess to a degree. They write they wrote up a whole 20 point plan on, you know, what they're going to do here. But one of the big hang ups here, right, is they want Hamas to completely disarm. I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't want complete demilitarization and disarmament from them. And, and obviously they want hatches within 72 hours. I'm assuming since they signed this now the clock starts with the 72 hours. Yeah, assuming so we'll see what happens. And I know one of the biggest hang ups were the two biggest hang ups on this deal was Israel pulling back to a decider upon line because they wanted them to eventually. Originally they wanted to withdraw completely from the Gaza Strip. They don't want to do that. Yeah. Then the other thing was like them permanently disarming. I noticed he did not put anything there about disarming unless I'm missing it. So that might still be up in the air because I know that was a point of contention because right now they're negotiating in Egypt.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm not even in Qatar because Israel blew that up.

[Shane Smith]

Complete disarmament is not even an option. That would be like asking America or Iraq to disarm. Like we asked Iraq to disarm. Oh, sorry. We have more small arms circulating in this country than any other country in the Middle East.

[Myron Gaines]

Almost impossible.

[Shane Smith]

So like Iraq just had millions of small arms floating around. Like of course they're just going to resist without even having to import weapons and stuff.

[Myron Gaines]

Gaza is a similar situation and who dictates what's disarmed? Right. Like the Israelis can always say, oh well you guys still have this, you guys are still armed in this way. So it's like, it's open to interpretation. And this is the things with these, these peace deals is like they're always pretty vague and nebulous especially when it comes to our commitments on the west versus their commitments are very black and white. You need to do this. But like ours are like, yeah, we're going to give you a path to self determination. But are we really like. So we'll see what happens.

[Shane Smith]

It's also interesting to be like you guys have to disarm your, your rockets that don't work. Get rid of.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, you have to get rid of.

[Shane Smith]

Meanwhile we're going to pull back, create a new front line, absorb more territory. It just feels like they're going to absorb a little bit more. And then we wait 10 years till they get that. They like convince them to attack them again and then they're going to absorb a little.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, it's never ending. It's the, you know, it never feels like nobody actually buys into peace as like as an idea anymore, because they know that it's just cyclical anyways, it's going to come back, whether it's when he leaves office, whether it's like what happened with the first phase of the plan where they say they're gonna do something and then they don't. And I'm not, I'm not even specifying any side, no American, even those who don't really think or care on foreign policy, even thinks of it anymore as a game that you can win. It's just something that's recycled and starts over and over again whenever either a new administration comes or there's just new war to break out somewhere else.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. And I mean, listen, I used to pay more attention to politics in the Middle East. I used to be very concerned about what's happening in Yemen. I've looked into some of this, but when it came to the Israel Palestine issue, I just never got particularly educated on it. My position has generally just been the America first position is that this isn't our fight. I don't think the United States needs to have any involvement.

[Brett Dasovic]

And for most, like, it's a losing issue for Trump on something like this because he's putting them in a place to deny him, you know, looking good because they can go back and what they say, which hurts him because, you know, him being a presence of power in the Middle east goes to benefit his ego and goes to benefit the way he's viewed by other countries. But if somebody breaks the deal, it looks bad for him. Americans already, a vast majority of the people that voted for him that aren't, you know, old school Republicans, don't want us in the Middle east anyways. So it feels like it's actually like if it's not about the Nobel Peace Prize, which could be purely for ego purposes, it's not beneficial to Americans at all when there's plenty of issues going on at home.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And not only that, but like the Israelis don't really have an incentive to exercise any type of diplomacy because no matter what, we're going to back them. So they know, okay, we can, you know, lie here because after Trump made this announcement originally, Benjamin does a address in Hebrew. And so he's in a very difficult position. Right. Because on his side he's got a criminal case he's got to deal with. Right. And then on top of that, he has a far right party that supports and backs him, that wants these guys completely out. So he's got to play the delicate line where he tells The US like, yeah, we want to work towards some type of ending the war and getting our options back at the same time. These guys on the far right that are his constituents want him to continue the war. So as soon as he made this agreement with Trump, he goes and doesn't address in Hebrew and kind of just says, yeah, we're not really going to do diplomacy. We're kind of feigning diplomacy like we always have. Don't worry, we're not going to completely pull out the Gaza Strip. We're going to make sure that they disarm. We're going to get our hostages back. And the reality is Hamas knows that their only leverage is the hostages. So. And Benjamin and Yahoo Knows this too. And he had many opportunities to get the hostage back. I've talked about this before. He could have got the houses back October 10, 2023, but he chose not to do so because he wanted to wage a war and it would keep him out of this corruption trial that he's dealing with. So he's got multiple things he's balancing where he's trying to stay in power, keep his constituents happy, at the same time, continue to get aid from the United States. He'll say what he needs to say while also trying to balance getting U. S. Support at the same time, where now they're running a whole hasbara thing where they're getting these influencers, paying them money.

[Brett Dasovic]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

To kind of push the narrative. And if you notice, he's starting to do interviews now. Just the interview with Benjamin with Ben Shapiro. A couple days ago, he did an interview with Tatum. He's doing the rounds in America because he understands that US Support is starting.

[Brett Dasovic]

To wane, especially amongst younger generations. Yeah, the ones who are, like, who are political left. Right.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Everyone.

[Brett Dasovic]

You guys are very, like, clearly very interested in what's going on in the Middle East. I think I'm probably more representative of the average person who's politically aware domestically, but otherwise just looks at most stuff overseas as weighing on our economy and weighing on our relations with the rest of the world. So I understand that a lot of it has to do with trade route. Trade routes and how I think we've.

[Myron Gaines]

Wasted damn near 30, 40 years on the Middle east when we should have been focusing on China all this time. I really do think that the biggest threat right now for us to maintain the global hegemony is China and their allies. And, you know, they're expanding at a rapid rate, and we've just been wasting time in the Middle east, you know, for Decades. Dude.

[Seamus Coughlin]

If I was to let China screw us repeatedly.

[Shane Smith]

Right.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Repeatedly. I just want to mention something really quickly here. It's important to keep in mind that even though most young people are changing their position on this or just aren't on the same page as like, the Republican and Democratic parties actually traditionally have been. We were talking about this the other night when it came to the Vietnam War. Right. Leftists were against it and conservatives who didn't want America to be involved in overseas wars were against it, but for different reasons. Like, the left was against it because they liked communists and they liked communism. Yeah. So similarly, you can acknowledge, like, America shouldn't be involved in this and still realize that like, left wing activists are not at all your ally in any of this. Because the reason they're against it is because they see this as like white colonization. That's literally the framework that they have for understanding.

[Shane Smith]

Like Jane Fonda went to North Korea and sat in the anti aircraft guns.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yes.

[Shane Smith]

Like a rest tour for them during the war.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And then no treason charges like that. It's insane. We talk about how much the left gets away with today. The fact that so many. Dude, I can't.

[Shane Smith]

She was the only in shape woman back then. She was so hot, we had to let her do it.

[Brett Dasovic]

And she recently re. Like restarted the. The. What is it? The Committee on the First Amendment because of all of Jimmy Kimmel getting, you know, taken TV for two days. So you get Hollywood leftists who have cheered on censorship for Everybody. Not even four or five days after it was revealed that Google and YouTube were censoring people during the Biden administration. And they're out here like, freedom of speech.

[Shane Smith]

Jimmy Kimmel trampling us. Jimmy Kimmel is the version of when a cop does a bad shoot and just shoots a guy and then gets paid vacation.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Like he messed up and then he just got two days off work. Like, that's not a punishment. Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

It didn't even get. It barely got censored at all. And I think Disney did that more as like a, you know, middle finger to the White House and stuff versus, like. And a lot of people cancel their Hulu's and complain.

[Brett Dasovic]

You know, I mean, it was also, you know, the fact that they were trying to shoot up ABC affiliates and stuff.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, yeah, this is what I'm saying.

[Seamus Coughlin]

They. They do violence and they get their way.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

All the time. They don't get prosecuted. They don't get charged.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm like, Bob Iger's like, we're not the government. We can Negotiate with terrorists.

[Shane Smith]

It's like, what? Honestly, not to. Not to get away from the Middle east too much, but let's bring it back. If I was a president, my. I think we can solve all of our problems by making a foreign policy. We don't fight dudes wearing pajamas and sandals. That's our main rule. If you fight in pajamas and sandals, we're out. We don't want it. This is not a good fight. There's nothing to gain.

[Brett Dasovic]

They're just going to wait you out anyway.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, brother.

[Brett Dasovic]

Win.

[Shane Smith]

You are fighting in pajamas. You have nothing I want.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, when I beat you got nothing to lose, right?

[Shane Smith]

Dude, when I beat you, what am I going to take? You're not. Not electricity. Get out of here. What am I doing in this place?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, we make zero sense.

[Shane Smith]

Spend so much time there from Vietnam to now. We have to stop fighting. People wearing pajamas, bro. Next people we fight are wearing uniforms or I'm out.

[Brett Dasovic]

You can even, like. I mean, you could even get the leftist on your side. Like, imagine the universal health care we could have if we just stopped spending trillions of dollars overseas, bro.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Honestly, I got to get that fat.

[Brett Dasovic]

Lady out of the house.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, I just. I want to make this point. I am as much against the foreign wars as anybody, but the stuff that they're proposing with this health care stuff, people don't realize this. We do spend more in health care than the military every year.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

The left is convinced. It's like, we don't spend enough on welfare. We spend a lot on welfare.

[Shane Smith]

There's only one organization that spends more on health care in the United States. In the United States, and that's the Catholic Church. Big dog.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, yeah. Actually helps.

[Shane Smith]

But yeah. Yeah, it's a whole thing. So. Well, I mean, let's get to this next one. Speaking of the Catholic Church, someone tried to blow up one of the biggest churches in America. This maniac. So I didn't know a lot about this. I've been traveling. I showed up today and we were like, what are we going to talk about? And I was like, I kind of want to read about this. So I'm learning with you. But apparently some psychopath leftist dude who named Lewis Jerry. What a weird name. Louis. Good name. Jerry with an I. That's not a real name. So anyway, he went. He went up to The Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle, pitched a tent, homeless style, and then I guess went back to his car like the shooter from Vegas, and then just kept bringing explosives or whatever into the tent, which is insane. That, that. So he filled his tent with explosives. And then he was like, now that I have my home base set up, I guess I'll attack this church and all the government officials in it. And then a cop asked him what he was doing, and he gave up immediately without a fight, and then handed them his diary also.

[Brett Dasovic]

See, that's the problem is, like, everybody's got an ego today. Nobody actually wants to do the terrorism. They just want people to read their.

[Shane Smith]

Manifesto 100%, dude, start a Tumblr. You don't have to try to blow up a church, you dork. So this dude, he literally filled a tent with Molotov off cocktails and explosives, and he wanted to, I guess, kill Catholics. And then the Supreme Court justices who were there. There were three Supreme Court justices.

[Myron Gaines]

Because I'll tell you this, his. His laziness didn't pay off because the FBI didn't even take the case.

[Shane Smith]

Dude, it's crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm looking at it. I had to double check. The probable call statement that was written was by the D.C. police.

[Tim]

That's.

[Myron Gaines]

So state's doing it. So they don't even take them seriously. Dude. Are getting lazy.

[Shane Smith]

Here's the thing about the left is they're the worst at terrorists. Yeah, they're so like that dude who shot all the ICE detainees also doing. You guys are incompetent. It's like every time there's a girl shooter and they're like, she didn't get anybody. You're like, dang, bro. Shoot one person, though.

[Myron Gaines]

That is crazy. Aliens. Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, he didn't even hit.

[Shane Smith]

You get nobody. You're terrible at this.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, they hate guns, right? So, like, you didn't go to the range. You just thought, it's like the video.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Games, you know, I feel like synthetic estrogen was like a monkey paw thing for the left because it made more of their violent people, like, more emotionally unstable, but it made their aim worse.

[Shane Smith]

Yes. Fair enough.

[Myron Gaines]

Fair enough.

[Shane Smith]

She's doing the hell out of those dishes. Like, what is going on with me lately?

[Jeff Bridges]

I don't know.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, dude. So this guy just.

[Myron Gaines]

I predict the FBI will probably pick up the charges. They'll probably charge them, State, get them in quickly, because they probably just want to get him detained as quickly as possible and they're going to write a criminal complaint or indict him later.

[Shane Smith]

But.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, you're saying the FBI, like, saw this and then just didn't do anything about it and had.

[Myron Gaines]

I'm surprised they didn't. They didn't take it Immediately from the state. I guess the state took it first. And then, like, they'll come in and probably take it literally.

[Brett Dasovic]

The, like, tap the sign. Like, was known to the FBI.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably. I'm, like, it was on a list somewhere.

[Shane Smith]

I'm just frustrated with these people who try to do horrible things. Like, he could have killed so many people, done a really horrible thing. He was a little incompetent. Maybe he messed up. Maybe we got lucky. We don't know. Like, you know, I made a joke about it, but we don't know how it really went down. And then everyone's gonna kind of just sweep it under the rug because he was incompetent.

[Myron Gaines]

We have a saying in law enforcement.

[Unknown Female Host]

We.

[Myron Gaines]

We say we catch the dumb ones.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

What we used to say, like, you know, so smart.

[Shane Smith]

When we do crime, we say that too.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. Y.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like a little thing says, be smart.

[Jeff Bridges]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Dude, dude.

[Shane Smith]

You gotta remember. Gotta remember. All right.

[Brett Dasovic]

Where was this?

[Shane Smith]

So, okay, this is crazy.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So still.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, there's a homeless problem there too. Not as bad as. Like.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, Trump just cleaned it up a.

[Brett Dasovic]

Little bit, so it's like the tent was out of place, but not as out of place as it could be.

[Shane Smith]

We have a.

[Myron Gaines]

There.

[Shane Smith]

Here's this. This fact about the case. They say he proceeded to pull out multiple capped vials containing yellow liquid with explosives, which was this.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, what is that?

[Unknown Female Host]

It's nitromethane.

[Shane Smith]

Which is nitromethane.

[Myron Gaines]

Here's the thing.

[Shane Smith]

When you're a cop and a homeless guy has a bunch of yellow liquid, and he's like, I'm gonna blow everyone up. You're like, if that's piss, I'm gonna electrocute you, bro. Straight up. That better be explosives and not piss, or I'm gonna freak out on you, and I'm gonna do police violence right now.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And I'm gonna get paid leave.

[Shane Smith]

Right, Right. And I'm gonna get two days off.

[Myron Gaines]

Afterwards, I'm gonna get a vacation for beating you up.

[Shane Smith]

Truly not in D.C. every time. Nitroglycerin and not piss, please. So, yeah, I mean, no one got hurt. Everyone left. He brought his. Here's the thing. He brought his diary to the bombing.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

What was.

[Myron Gaines]

So.

[Shane Smith]

He just really wanted people to find that. I think so narcissistic, you know, here's the thing. You don't have to do this. You don't have to hurt anybody. You have to plan it. What you do is you take your diary, you bind it up, just mail it to the news roshak. Style, like, or what? From watchmen or whatever.

[Myron Gaines]

Just give.

[Brett Dasovic]

Leave.

[Shane Smith]

Someone leave it at the park. Someone will read it. It's probably really gross and messed up. People will know about it.

[Brett Dasovic]

I promise, half the time, once somebody does come in, an act of terrorism, they won't release the manifesto anyways.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, dude.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

The best way to have it heard is to get caught first.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Where's crooks manifesto?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, the Trump shooter guy. We don't have anything.

[Myron Gaines]

We don't forever to get the. The. The. Remember the. The T. That gun is shooting in Tennessee. Took us forever to get there. Manifest. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Smith]

And that thing was wild. Literally drawing demons and stuff.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, absolutely nuts.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That was terrifying.

[Unknown Female Host]

He was really trying to lead with the. With the title. Here you can see the notebook was titled written negotiations for the avoidance of destruction of property via detonation of explosives.

[Shane Smith]

Like, oh, because you're so lazy now.

[Myron Gaines]

When you need them.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, not very catchy.

[Myron Gaines]

Just gonna see a real manifesto.

[Shane Smith]

These are people who look up to the unit. You're doing a bit it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

This is why I write his manifesto.

[Shane Smith]

Right, right.

[Myron Gaines]

Guys, we're getting lazy.

[Shane Smith]

These guys need to listen.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I.

[Shane Smith]

You can contact me on Instagram. Shay Dozer is my name. I will punch up your manifesto.

[Unknown Female Host]

Okay.

[Shane Smith]

I will get you going. We'll make it funny, we'll make it evil.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I will help you.

[Myron Gaines]

Give me the address to send to the FBI so you can get published. Like, damn, dude.

[Shane Smith]

We'll title it Good dude. We'll have like a really tough, scary title.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, yeah, he didn't workshop.

[Shane Smith]

If you read.

[Seamus Coughlin]

This.

[Brett Dasovic]

Was like a guide. Yeah, it was Ted Kaczynski. That's the more you learn about, like, the history of American domestic terrorism. You know why the left is so pissed now? Because even back in the 90s and the 80s, they all owned cabins in the woods. And they're like, I can't afford a cabin now. Like, what are these guys even committing terrorist acts for? They had land, they had property, they had a home. Like, what were they so angry about?

[Shane Smith]

It's so funny.

[Myron Gaines]

Universities. Like, all of his bombs are just sent them to, like, universities. Like someone like in, like randomly. In, like, tech. Like, oh, you're making robots or you're doing tech. You need to die. Like, because he was against technology. Technology in general. Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

He got caught, right? Because I think his brother recognized his.

[Myron Gaines]

Yes. So interesting style. His brother, because he had this phrase. You know, the. The phrase, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

[Shane Smith]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

He would because he's an autist. The guy was a genius. He. He said that was. Technically, that's incorrect. There's. Well, so you can't eat your cake and have it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So he. He wrote that in the. In one of his manifestos. And the brother noticed that right away. He was like, oh, Ted, you idiot. That's how. That's literally how they caught him, dude. Because he was like one of these, like, really smart, you know. You get these. Yeah, actually, it's supposed to be this.

[Shane Smith]

No, Superman does it. Waiting to get back in his brother for years.

[Brett Dasovic]

Because he kept correcting.

[Myron Gaines]

And that's how it's because. And he had certain misspellings. And it was that phrase that his brother's like, this is my. Miss my brother. Right. So sold his brother out. So he gave it. He told the FBI. Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And then they offered him the reward too. And he didn't take it.

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[Myron Gaines]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

That's crazy.

[Shane Smith]

Take it and hire your brother a lawyer.

[Myron Gaines]

And if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if it still is, but it was the most expensive FBI case ever conducted. It was because it started decades, forever to catch him.

[Brett Dasovic]

I watched a document like, I listened to like a. Like a documentary on it.

[Shane Smith]

Recently.

[Myron Gaines]

Passed away, like last year too.

[Jeff Bridges]

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[Dana]

Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?

[Jeff Bridges]

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[Shane Smith]

Dana.

[Dana]

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[Jeff Bridges]

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[Brett Dasovic]

Nice.

[Dana]

Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Myron Gaines]

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[Jeff Bridges]

So what are we having for lunch?

[Dana]

Dude, my work here is done.

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[Shane Smith]

Rip to a real one.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Ted Kazinski, he was a wild guy. He was a wild guy. Listen, I don't agree with what he did. I'm just saying he was a real dude.

[Myron Gaines]

He lived it.

[Unknown Female Host]

Separate the art from the artist.

[Myron Gaines]

Exactly.

[Shane Smith]

Thank you. Did they hear that? Did they hear that?

[Unknown Female Host]

So I got it.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, that's how they got him, dude. There's so many interesting ways that these criminals get caught, man. Like, that guy got caught by his brother. You could get caught like BTK got caught with like, semen he left at a scene. And his. His daughter was in college. She, like, went to do an STD test and like. Yeah, yeah, she went to go like she was at University of Kansas or something like that. That and this dude was like a.

[Shane Smith]

Guy that, like, would I know what BTK was?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

There's only one worse than him.

[Brett Dasovic]

Who?

[Shane Smith]

The Toy Box Killer.

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, yeah. That guy was crazy too.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah. And he just died of a heart attack during the trial. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

They never got the thing, but yeah, they caught him through DNA tests and another one, the Golden State Killer. Oh, interesting.

[Brett Dasovic]

With him, it was like a state university dude.

[Shane Smith]

He was like 80 years old. Go. Going like 90 on his motorcycle.

[Myron Gaines]

This is even funnier. So this guy was like in the 60s, right? He was like in the 70s. He was going crazy. They called him the original night stalker. He was like, you know, breaking these houses, like, you know, attacking the women and whatever. And then they called him a coward because he would only attack women. So he started to attack houses where there was a dude there. And what he would do is he would make the dude sit on all fours and he put china plates on his back as he went and assaulted the woman. And if they moved, he'd know because it would crash and everything like that. So that's how he kept the guys at bay. And he did this for decades, terrorizing California. They never caught him. So someone does like a 23 and me and his family, right? And a detective, like 20 years later, 30 years later. That's like, you know, let me just put it.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What?

[Myron Gaines]

Because he left his DNA at the scenes.

[Shane Smith]

This is before, you know, so this.

[Myron Gaines]

Dude was busting us all over the place, I guess. So they had the DNA and they just put into 23andMe, and they found a relative. And then they're like, okay, we find this guy. And then they look and they find someone that would be his age. They went to the house, they scrubbed, like, his car or something like that. The. The. The door handle, DNA match. Came and arrested him.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And it was California, so there's no cash bail. They're like, you're fine, man.

[Shane Smith]

Go do whatever you want. Yeah, we'll be back just like you.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, you know, it was his first defense. It was his first time getting caught doing this. It would be cruel. You know, we didn build the library in his neighborhood. That would have made him.

[Brett Dasovic]

Socioeconomic factors were definitely.

[Myron Gaines]

I can't remember his name, but he was like, an Italian dude. But yeah, dude, they caught him like 40 years later. I don't know if he was a cop.

[Shane Smith]

I thought he was.

[Myron Gaines]

I don't know if he was a cop.

[Shane Smith]

I. I also heard he had a micro penis, which I hope was true for his victim.

[Unknown Female Host]

Is this BTK you guys talking about?

[Myron Gaines]

No, this is the Golden State Killer, the original Night Stalker. Not Richard Ramirez, but btk, they caught him through his daughter.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yes.

[Myron Gaines]

He went to like, the doctor at. On campus and then had seen a semen sample. And what him up is he. He had. He had gone away in the 70s. Nobody knew. They didn't identify him. They didn't know who he was. He sends the cops a thing like, can I send you guys a floppy?

[Brett Dasovic]

And they're like, the metadata on it?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Everybody said.

[Myron Gaines]

They said, yeah, go ahead, send it in. So he gives them like, the floppy disk, and they were able to trace it back to the church and find them. And what he had done was he. He like, said he was gonna make a comeback, like in 04. And he took like, a Barbie doll and put her, like, in a cereal boxing, like, with it with a rope around her neck. Like, serial killer. So, yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

And.

[Myron Gaines]

And then they were like, once was in the 70s, he had left semen at the scene again. Cuz again, they didn't have DNA back then. So they compared the. The DNA test to his daughter who was at that college, and that's how they linked him and caught him.

[Unknown Female Host]

Dude, he got boomered. Man, that sucks. Yeah, sucks. I thought they didn't. They like, tell him to that. Oh, we can't. He asked, can you guys trace this?

[Shane Smith]

And they said yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

He said. They said no. And he. He sent it in like an idiot.

[Shane Smith]

That's how they got him. It's actually.

[Brett Dasovic]

Can't lie.

[Shane Smith]

That's so funny.

[Myron Gaines]

That's all they got to do. Funny, man.

[Shane Smith]

That's like little kid. Like, tell me the truth. According to Internet.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You have to tell me.

[Myron Gaines]

I know way too much about serial killers. But, yeah, like, just funny. Like Ted Bunny. They caught him from his teeth because he bit some chicks ass cheeks when he was, like, assaulting them in Florida. Yeah. The orthodox. Yeah. I think the first time they did, like, orthodontic. Forensic orthodontics, and they caught him. So. Yeah. Dude. Oh, crazy, man.

[Shane Smith]

Dude, that's insane.

[Myron Gaines]

The 70s were the worst decade, I think.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, dude.

[Myron Gaines]

By far.

[Shane Smith]

For crime, I think in general, like, the. The cultural revolution that led us to where we are now got up to its peak in the 70s.

[Myron Gaines]

Gas prices were high, Inflation was crazy. We're wars going on. Every top serial killer was active in the 70s.

[Shane Smith]

Iran, Afghanistan, and the rest of the Middle east is unmodernizing and going to sharia and all that kind of stuff.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, the 70s, the mafia were at their height at that point. This is before Rico gets into it gets into play.

[Unknown Female Host]

Their bombs going off everywhere, too, all over the place.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Domestic terrorism. Berkeley.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Dude, it's crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, it was. The 70s, I think, were the worst.

[Brett Dasovic]

So that's why I was like, whenever we're on the show and everybody's talking about how awful it is, I'm like, somebody needs to, like, remake social media. But it's just headlines from the 70s. They're like, oh, my God, the cbanese army. And then they're serial killers, right, dude?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. It was called New York City. Was called Fear City back then. Like, and time Score was all porn. It was all. Every top serial killer was operating in the 70s. Son of Sam, Ted Bundy, dead. Kemper. You know, I was just watched the.

[Brett Dasovic]

Thing the other day about, like. It was like, a cop from New York who was. Who died. And it was like, he's like, he caught the New York City zodiac. And I had to get like, three paragraphs down.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, I don't.

[Brett Dasovic]

I was like, they didn't catch the city. Oh, it's a different zodiac. Oh, my gosh.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Wait, what?

[Shane Smith]

They're two zoning New York City zodiac. Well, there's 12 zodiacs, but you know what I'm saying.

[Brett Dasovic]

In the 90s, I was like, I was like, oh, this guy gets all the, like all the credit I guess. But the other guy didn't get caught.

[Myron Gaines]

So it's like, yeah, they never caught the original one.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No way.

[Shane Smith]

I, I thought they got.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I thought he was the. They probably. Dude, they're happy to let us believe they got the original one. They're like, yeah, that's it.

[Myron Gaines]

They didn't get him. They didn't get. He was. He's one of the serial killers that like they have a suspect. God damn. I'll get his name.

[Shane Smith]

Weird guy mentioned in the I saw Netflix documentary.

[Myron Gaines]

There's a Netflix on him. Someone in the chat's gonna put it that who it is, but. But yeah, they have a couple suspects, but they never actually.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Lindsay Graham or something. They're like, we think it was him.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, you mentioned it was like the seventies were like the, this gnarly decade. I mean if you look at the information we got today on this, the story I found a breach of Shane. We have another, another terrorist doing crazy stuff that could potentially get really bad.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, dude. Anarchist website, targets ICE agents, posts blueprints of Chicago facilities. Yeah, that's crazy. At least four ICE facilities in Chicago have been surveilled with detailed layouts, diagrams and photo photos posted, which is like again this is that, that like weird situation we're in where you're like, okay, that's really sketchy and intense and scary and left wing terrorism. But they're also incompetent a lot of the time. So then you're like, well what are they gonna do? Get in. They can't climb a fence.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And.

[Shane Smith]

But then there's the part of it. Well you say that until one of them does.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Arthur Lee Allen. Sorry, that was the, that was the main suspect. Arthur Lee Allen was the main.

[Shane Smith]

Arthur Lee Allen.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, that was that they, that they had.

[Unknown Female Host]

So right here it says there has been an increase in the attempt to gather and you know, anonymously share and gather information online and publish it even on websites publicly available about these activities, explained Jason Perry, a cyber security professor at the Lewis university. According to ABC 7 Chicago. It's just talking here about how there have been like a thousand % increase on ICE agent, increase in assaults on ICE agents. And I don't know how what the time period is on this, but 1000% is a big number regardless because they.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Allow them to do it. No one gets in trouble, no one gets charged, bro. The FBI was able to find every single granny who walked through the capitol after a police officer opened the door for him. And you have these people going out and attacking law enforcement, explicitly doing so in order to overturn the results of a Democratic election by not having the laws for the. That the people voted for enforced. They're like, I don't know who they are.

[Brett Dasovic]

The actual politicians go up there and starts fights with them. And then when they get arrested, they're like, donate to my campaign.

[Seamus Coughlin]

It's such a LARP dude.

[Myron Gaines]

Jersey.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. When they got arrested by.

[Shane Smith]

For.

[Myron Gaines]

I. I think, yeah, they got arrested for, like, assault or miss trespass or something like that.

[Shane Smith]

Some lady, some politician lady got pushed down by ICE in California, right?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, no, it was still New Jersey or whatever. Like, it was.

[Myron Gaines]

I remember there was. That he's talking about. There was another incident, too. There was one in New Jersey, and then I think there was something in California as well. I mean, look, I. I used to be an ICE agent and, well, ice, hsi. Oh, it was like, what the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I worked. Yeah, I worked for ICE for a very long time.

[Shane Smith]

Time.

[Myron Gaines]

I worked for the Homeland Security. So there's two different components of ice, right? There's ICE Enforcement Removal Operations. Who are the guys that actually, like, are the deportation officers that take the prisoners, like, put them in the jail cells, they manage the. The detention facilities, they deport them to their countries. Then you got hsi, who are doing the investigations. But since they're doing, you know, all hands on deck, every federal agency is helping out with these arrests. Like, FBI is out there, ATF is out there. Like, agencies that don't even have Title 8 authority, which is immigration, are out there doing these things.

[Brett Dasovic]

So, like, so they're getting, like, deputized in a way to go and be allowed to do that.

[Myron Gaines]

Basically, they're doing the operations with Border Patrol, ERO and ICE, who are the main lead agencies with Title 8. FBI does have Title 8 authority to do immigration, but they never want to admit that because that would mean that they would have to deal with their own prisoners. And no one ever wants to process illegal aliens because processing aliens is a big pain in the ass, okay? Because you got to, like, make an alien file for them. You got to do all the. Put all the paperwork. Like, deporting someone is actually a lot of work. Like, it's not easy. So it's a lot of paperwork.

[Shane Smith]

You got to come out of retirement, go live on Instagram, let us see what's going on out there, bro. I'm trying to see it, dude.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I feel the chats. Wait. Oh, my God.

[Shane Smith]

They're talking.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I mean, hey, Chad, what do you want me to do?

[Myron Gaines]

It's crazy, dude. Like, you know, because I've, like, I've done it all when it comes to, like, I've deported aliens myself. I've, you know, because I was. I started my career on Laredo, Texas. So, like, you know. Yeah, you're right there on a border. So like, sometimes, you know, border patrol catch a load, right, of, like, it'll be a smuggler with, like, 10 aliens that they're trying. You prosecute the driver, right, for alien smuggling. And then the illegal aliens are a group, everyone that's, like, not going to be held as a material witness. They could get sent back. So they just get, like, a volunteer removal, and then you just kick them out, send them right back over the bridge.

[Brett Dasovic]

So just going to go film live. You're like, gift him membership guy with pepper spray.

[Myron Gaines]

But, yeah, no, things have changed a lot, man. Like, pretty much all of HSI now, they've stopped. I've talked with a couple guys on the job. Like, they don't even do criminal cases right now. Everyone is doing immigration, just straight immigration. And. And for hsi, like, they're, you know, they do money laundering, drug trafficking, anything coming in or out of the country. So. But almost all of them have, like, been pushed to do immigration stuff.

[Brett Dasovic]

So is drug trafficking like, the customs side of it, as in shipping and stuff like that?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, like, you know, anything coming in or out. So, like, you know, like, when I was on the border, for example, I was like, in a human smuggling group where we did, like, immigration. But you would catch drugs as well all the time, too. Like, when customs calls you from the bridge, hey, we got this guy with, like, 10 kilos of coke. You'd go to respond the customs agents.

[Seamus Coughlin]

How long were you doing this?

[Myron Gaines]

So I was an agent from 2013 to 2020.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Okay.

[Myron Gaines]

Okay.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So this was like, so Obama and Trump era, basically.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

When. What difference did you notice after Trump took office, trying to do that job?

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, man, it was. It was. So when. When Obama was in, it was very difficult to get, like, immigration enforcement done. Right. Like, if you got caught at the border, it is what it is. But, like, when it comes to, like, interior enforcement, which is what you guys are seeing now, unheard of, like, under Democrats, because, like, immigration is a dirty word. So, like, politicians, even conservative Republicans, don't like really enforcing immigration like that. So what Trump is doing is, like, unprecedented. The fact that, like, he's mobilizing border patrol agents to go to Interior offices and interior cities to, like, go and pick these guys up is nuts. I've never seen this before, so it's a good thing. But, yeah, when Trump came in, to give you an example. Right. Just the difference. So when Obama was in. Right. Like, you know, a lot of these aliens or, well, especially Biden, the aliens would get something called a notice to appear or an NTA.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So they would get these NTAs, and they would let them go to wherever they're going to go in the United states. And these NTAs, they'll be sitting in the. In the wind waiting for like, two, three years because immigration court is way backed up. They don't have enough immigration judges.

[Brett Dasovic]

They don't have enough stay in Mexico came from.

[Shane Smith]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

Like what.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's where stay in Mexico came from when Trump came into office.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, well, well, with Trump. So with. With Biden, they were getting NTAs.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

With Trump, it was. You're getting expedited removal. So within two weeks, you had to get out of here. Like, they were deporting them right back. Like they were catching them. They're giving them an er, which. The expedited removal, which counts as actual, real, real deportation. Or if it was their first time, they'd get a VR. But most of the time it would be a er. And this is important because the way you're deported dictates, you know, if you could come back in the future. Right. And then when you're arrested by immigration. When you're arrested by immigration, they have to remove you in a certain manner. So is it order for an immigration judge? Is it a voluntary removal? Is it an expedited removal? But when Trump was in, Everybody was getting ERs. Everybody.

[Brett Dasovic]

And one of the reasons Obama's numbers were so high on deportations, because the. They were being turned away at the border. And those were counting as.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, yeah. Like, that's the other thing, too. People say, oh, oh, yeah. Well, actually, Obama did more. Like, Democrats are always bad on immigration because they never, like, if the aliens make it in, they're good. But like with Trump, he was a bit more aggressive. Where you can do interior enforcement. That's where the real deportations, like, like what you guys are seeing now, this is what we should have been doing decade. We've been doing this a long time ago, like doing interior.

[Shane Smith]

You mean enforcing our law. I'm gonna. I'm gonna read some. Some paragraphs from this article because it's insane. The. It's a. Chicago has recently seen several violent incidents targeting federal immigration authorities. Last week, Border Patrol officers were ambushed when individuals rammed their vehicles into agents. I'm assuming into their actual vehicles and not their persons. But one of the suspects, identified as Miramar Martinez, was armed and had a history of doxing federal agents. On Monday, federal agents arrested a gang leader accused of offering bounties to capture and kill a senior immigration officer involved in Operation Midway Blitz, an ongoing immigration enforcement effort in Chicago. The suspect, Juan Espinoza Martinez, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, allegedly placed a $10,000 bounty. That's pretty decent. On Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino. That's crazy. It does feel like the liberal. Like, they're doing this thing where everyone's kind of comfortable with violence from a distance.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yep.

[Shane Smith]

Like, I'll tweet about it. I don't experience it in my life ever. I live very safely. I'm very chill. Nothing's going on on. But like, I'm crazy and I'll dox people and I'll tweet out this stuff and I'll participate online and hopefully a real crazy person will do the thing that I won't do. And that seems like their strategy.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Like, tens of thousands of these people are being disgusting monsters and sort of just being like, this, Trump next, whatever. And they're just hoping through doxing and giving out this information that they will motivate the next guy.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, and every single accusation from the left is always an admission. You probably noticed a couple of years ago they started using this phrase, stochastic terrorism. Yeah. So if you were to state any borderline normal right wing talking point, they would accuse you of stochastic terrorism. And one of the left's favorite arguments for like the past five to 10 years, as soon as they really started losing the culture war, because people could access information online, as soon as you started making good arguments, they'd say, well, no, you can't make that argument because like, some crazy person who believes that will shoot up a school if you make that argument. And that is unironically been their line of reason for a very long time. Like, if you say anything that's out of step with left wing orthodoxy, you're either like going to get a gay teenager to commit suicide or someone's going to shoot up a school. And that has been their emotional blackmail. But of course, they're projecting because they will openly call for violence against their political opponents. And like you're saying their hope is some crazy person is actually going to go do it.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. This is why, you know, so we. I don't think Americans understand how bad the immigration problem is, right. Someone that worked in immigration, right. People say, oh, my God, how could it be so heartless? We're not just getting beat on the border, right. For all these years, we're getting beat in the interior, too, because people come in legally and people don't understand. They overstay their visas, they scam our systems where they, you know, do marriage fraud. There's an entire marriage fraud underground where you got corrupt immigration attorneys working with these people, where there's people that get married multiple times as sponsors, getting paid 10, 20, $30,000 to marry this person, make it work for two years. They, you know, help them rehearse for their CIS interview when they do meet with their immigration official to get, you know, their green card or. Or whatever. Like, we're getting beat on so many different angles when it comes to immigration. And we're finally doing something now with Trump, you know, doing interior enforcement. This has been a big problem that every politician has been too scared to do because, number one, it requires a lot of effort from all these different federal agencies. Number two, you get all the opposition that we're getting right now. And then, number three, yeah, you deal with danger, and you have to mobilize units and everything else like that. But we've been needing to do this for a very long time.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's also. It hits right at home for a lot of people, because the people that you end up having to deport are ones.

[Myron Gaines]

It's.

[Brett Dasovic]

You're not hearing about the. The gang leaders, you're not hearing about the drug dealers. You're hearing about the people who are living in your neighborhood, you know, next door to someone. And it's always harder for. And I think in a lot of ways, for anyone. I don't think it's just the left that tends to humanize their neighbor more than they are going to humanize somebody who they read an article about. But once you see them enforcing these laws on somebody that lives, who could be living across the street from them, that's a very hard thing to really, really get the public on your side for. So the fact that there is as much support for the immigration process as it's being handled now kind of speaks to. Just bad it got for so long.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, yeah. And this has been a problem that's been going on for decades, and every politician has been too scared to address it. So I got to give Trump credit for this, because to do it's. It's easy to catch illegal aliens at the border and send them back. It's easy to give them an expedited removal when you caught them. It's another thing to mobilize ERO enforcement, removal operations, ICE and all these other agencies interior, and arrest these guys in major cities real time and run these immigration ops. Another thing, too, with immigration operations is your authority is limited. Like when you have an immigration warrant, yes, it's a real warrant, but you can't kick their door down, right? You can't, like, you know, you don't have the same power as you would with a federal arrest warrant. So you are limited in how much you can move. So the fact that they're actually, like, getting this done, this has been something that we've been needing to do for decades, man.

[Seamus Coughlin]

For decades. And I sort of agree with what you were saying. Everyone says these deportations are so horrible, they're so ugly. Firstly, I'm just going to throw this out there. There. Traditionally, when people talked about deportation, they were talking about removing a person from a country that they lived in and were a citizen of. Like, this is a little bit different. This is the removal of aliens. So deportation isn't even actually the proper word for it. But even so, yeah, sure, it can be ugly to see that happening on the news, but that's why we have to have the border closed, right? Because when you let tens of millions of people in completely unvetted, and we have no idea.

[Myron Gaines]

And giving them NTAs.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Myron Gaines]

And let me put in perspective for you how crazy this is, right? So when I. I was an agent, right? Let's say I was on a. I was, you know, Border patrol calls me, hey, there's a guy that came through, he has information on a cartel. I'll never forget this. I was like, 2015, I get a call, hey, there's this guy here, wants to provide information. We caught him in a load of 20 aliens. I go in there, I talk to him, right? He provides all this information on. At the time, it was. It was the Zetas that ran the area. Because I was in Laredo. Nuevo Laredo is right across. It was a Zetas that ran it. Whatever. This guy was like a bodyguard for one of the Z40 guys. Long story short, if I wanted to turn him into an informant, I would have to take him, bring him to my office, do what's called the nta notice to appear, right? And process it myself. If I ask border patrol, hey, can you guys process them for me? I want to turn it into an informant. They're like you. We're not Doing that, that's a lot of paperwork. And we have to get the chief to sign off on that because you're on the line for that alien. Right. So me, as a guy who's a criminal investigator, wants to turn a guy into an informant. I would have to do it myself. Border patrol wouldn't do it. Now, to put into confidence context, fast forward to the Biden era. These illegal aliens that are coming in, that aren't informed, that don't have any benefit to the US government whatsoever, they're getting NTAs. And not only are they getting NTAs, they're going into random places in the United States. They don't get a court date for years. They put some address down. By the time they get one to serve them, hey, it's your court date. They're not there. They're gone. They're in the wind.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yes.

[Myron Gaines]

Or they married somebody, whatever. So, like, it was an act of Congress for me to get an entry NTA for someone that I needed for a criminal investigation.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's.

[Myron Gaines]

They were giving these NTAs to these guys like candy under the Biden administration. Just so the American people understand that. The significance of an nta.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Exactly. I mean, there's an extremely complicated, convoluted, intense process for enforcing the law, but for breaking the law, it can be done easily. And that's what the left has done for decades. They can bring as many of them over as they want, and then you try to send any of them back and they go, you're not following the proper procedures. Like. Proper procedures?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

You didn't follow to get there.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What are you talking about, proper procedures? You just imported tens of millions of people outside of congressional approval, outside of the approval of people in the United States, because you just didn't enforce the law.

[Shane Smith]

Speaking of proper procedures, we should move to the next thing. Before we do, real quick, I just want to say the marriage fraud thing, when we made no fault divorce a thing, they brought that up. They were like, people are going to do a bunch of marriage fraud. I would just like to ride or die for bringing no fault divorce back. Baby, marriage should be real. Do it or don't.

[Myron Gaines]

Because it's the easiest path to a green card.

[Seamus Coughlin]

No.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, it is.

[Shane Smith]

It's crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

By far the easiest way marriage should.

[Shane Smith]

Destroy your life if it goes bad. Okay? Straight up, it should be a big deal. You guys aren't actually married. You're just dating with consequences.

[Myron Gaines]

You're.

[Shane Smith]

What do we want to call it? Pussies? I don't know. Anyway, I'm Catholic, married, so I'm super married based. Yeah dude. So in any case, we got a video about Trump classifying Antifa. So let's see the President of these United States talk.

[Myron Gaines]

Are you going to work with your.

[Brett Dasovic]

Administration as the Secretary of State States here.

[Myron Gaines]

Are you going to work with your.

[Brett Dasovic]

Administration to designate it a foreign terror organization?

[Jeff Bridges]

You mean it a terror Antifa.

[Brett Dasovic]

Antifa at foreign terror organization.

[Shane Smith]

Well, has that been done?

[Myron Gaines]

Pretty close, right?

[Shane Smith]

Would you like to see it done?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yes.

[Myron Gaines]

Mr. President.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Do you think it would help they.

[Brett Dasovic]

They have foreign land?

[Shane Smith]

I think it's the kind of thing I'd like to do if you'd like. Does everybody agree? So him dude, if you agree, I agree. Okay, let's get it.

[Unknown Female Host]

You guys like it?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Internationally.

[Jeff Bridges]

You mean international?

[Myron Gaines]

International.

[Shane Smith]

Internationally.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Steve, are you okay with it?

[Unknown Female Host]

Checks the room.

[Shane Smith]

Yes, it's true there are extensive foreign.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Ties and I think that would be a very valid step to take.

[Shane Smith]

I think so too.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yes.

[Unknown Female Host]

Good.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I think it's a good point.

[Myron Gaines]

You know what, that's, that's a W. And I'll tell you guys this why that's super important. If you designate them as a FTL now, you can start using intel service intelligence services on them. How do you guys think we're up these drug cartels right now? Because now we're using the Department of War, AKA Department of Defense. Because once you designate them as a terrorist or foreign terrorist organization, now the intel community is involved. You could bring in the military, things change the game. Like when I was on a job, for example, you know, when I was doing, you know, my investigation drug cartels, we were kind of limited in what we could do, right. We had some resources and stuff like that, but you couldn't really use intelligence agencies or in your investigation. And if you did, you couldn't use it like you couldn't use it in a criminal case. So like it could help you do like find some stuff but like you have to parallel reconstruct everything. So if you got a phone number here, you'd be like, oh man, I can't use the number. I got a parallel reconstruct this. So you're able to use it that way. But now if you designate them as an FTO dude, like they're the, the amount of resources you get using intelligence agencies to collect on these things make it way easier. So I'm glad that he's doing this. I've been saying for damn near five years now at this point that Antifa should have been a terrorist organization a long time ago. So BLM2, by the way, that was.

[Brett Dasovic]

The plot of Sicario 2.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, it was.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, they just start. They just start blowing people up in one shot.

[Myron Gaines]

Except for Emory was a little sensationalized.

[Shane Smith]

But yeah, in Sicario too, it's like the CIA and some, like, grunts on the ground. In real life, it's the United States Navy, just one shotting dudes all over the place, like, blowing people up.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, that's because they designated them once they designated them as a terrorist organization, a foreign terrorist organization, boom, gloves are off. We can start killing these guys now. Which is what they're doing with the Venezuelan drug traffickers.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, dude. Yeah, that's going to go. That's interesting. I feel like if Israel wasn't a thing, we'd be on the ground in Venezuela already. Yeah, like, if that wasn't a thorn in his side and he didn't have to, like, attack Yemen and Iran and because everyone's like, weren't you the president of peace? So he kind of tied his own hands. Now he can't go into Venezuela and.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, and Marco Rubio's had a hard on for Venezuela for a long time. Long time. He wants to go in there, have it.

[Shane Smith]

Their oil, you know, their access to the trading partner to, you know, to fix things would be huge for us. And it would. We're trying to get over here on the global west, you know, we're trying not to buy Russian oil. We're trying not to do this and that.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, you'll appreciate this as a Catholic. I mean, our whole, entire foreign policy establishment is structured on a total subversion of substitute. Like, instead of caring about the things closest to us and handling those, we're going all the way across the world to try to solve problems there that we're never going to be able to solve. And then we're letting everything here fall apart.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah. It's a real problem. It's insane. I don't like it and I want it to stop. So let's see what this next story is. Florida man charged with intentionally setting Pacific Palisades fire in la. La. It's about time.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Does Florida man mean, like, Maryland man? Is there. Is this actually a guy who was born in Florida?

[Brett Dasovic]

Florida man is his own thing. You look up your birth date and type in Florida.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, it gets better. This guy was an angry Uber driver, basically, and he listened to a French song before he did it. I was reading a criminal complaint. The ATF agent. This is ATF case. ATF is running it out of central district of California. And, you know, it's funny when you read these affidavits sometimes. Sometimes. And, like, the guy, literally, I guess he had listened to this French song, which boils down to, like, burning things down, and he had listened to this song getting himself hyped up. And he was an Uber driver. And, like, a couple of the Uber. Uber people that he had driven went to the Fed saying, yeah, this guy's a little agitated. We think he might be onto something here.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, my God.

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm actually impressed that anybody went and turned him in. Like, we live in an age where, like, I just assume everyone's like, not my business. I got out of the car without it blowing up.

[Myron Gaines]

It's fine.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He was inspired by a French song. I'm surprised he didn't turn himself.

[Myron Gaines]

Let me find it. I'll tell you a photo of him.

[Shane Smith]

Jonathan Rindern.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, He's a French dude.

[Shane Smith]

He's French.

[Unknown Female Host]

Oh, there he is.

[Brett Dasovic]

Explains a lot.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, man, that's ironic.

[Unknown Female Host]

A French talk about burning stuff is super fun in there.

[Shane Smith]

He looks like he lives in LA.

[Myron Gaines]

So they. They went through his YouTube, right? So that.

[Shane Smith]

Degeneratively.

[Myron Gaines]

I read it through that, David. They went through his YouTube. The name of the song is listen to a song entitled by French artist Jasmine.

[Shane Smith]

Jasmine.

[Brett Dasovic]

Now that. Now that musician's gonna have to be like, I do not. If she's down the music video, she'll.

[Shane Smith]

Be like, yeah, burn it all down.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. A guy grew up in France, fluent in French, and he was Uber driver.

[Brett Dasovic]

Got sick of tip culture.

[Shane Smith]

More immigrant. We got to get these freaking frogs out of our country.

[Brett Dasovic]

You guys, actually, this is the story you point to now, and somebody's like, you just hate, like, brown people. You're like, actually, no, I saw this French guy. This is what happens. It doesn't matter what color you are. If you didn't come here legally, we don't want you burning down our business buildings. We don't want you starting fires out in the woods.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You're okay with people who are born here having campfires?

[Brett Dasovic]

Yes.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So you're not actually antifire at all? No, that's the thing they do. I. I've joked about this before, but, like, a migrant could harpoon a dolphin at SeaWorld, and they'd be like, oh, so fishing's only okay when white people do it? They'll reach for any little similarity between two completely different things, and then, like, try to shame you for not supporting the most awful version of it when it was done by an immigrant.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah. It's stupid. We need to get these French people out of here. Acting like.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, we've talked about. So a lot of people. Another reason why I think our, our system is broken. So countries like France, Canada, obviously they have visa waivers. They don't have to come here with visas. Dude, they overstay all the time. Yeah, yeah. Work here legally. They get married. They also. Because people think, oh, it's just like Mexicans and people from poor countries that are coming get her.

[Shane Smith]

She's in New York. You could get her right now.

[Myron Gaines]

Everyone thinks it's like, oh yeah, these guys just come from the third world and abuse our system. It's like, no, dude, people come from these like, you know, first world socialist countries like Canada, Australia, Australia, France, etc come here all the time. Overstay their non visa, not their visa waiver.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And they just work here illegally and they just hang out.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

And they have enough money that they're not like, they're not in these places where they're getting seen. They're not in the back of kitchens.

[Myron Gaines]

Exactly.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, we have a lot of that. Yeah. There's a ton on the east coast right now of just like rich Indian immigrants.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. And they're not prioritized either.

[Shane Smith]

Great. They. They basically drive through, drive into the country from Canada and they just have so much money that they, they like rent apartments and live life, but they just. Just overstay their visa. But they kind of like fly under the radar because they're rich home. So they're rich here.

[Myron Gaines]

Yep.

[Shane Smith]

It's a.

[Myron Gaines]

Or the other scam they do is like they'll go to the Bahamas and then come back. Right. That's another one that. And that's another one that they do all the time too. So like, dude, we're getting beat on so many different. We need an immigration moratorium for like 5 to 10 years if I want to be. If we're really going to fix this problem, we need to reform everything because we're not just getting beat people. Everything. Oh, it's just Mexicans and, And people coming in for. From third world. No, bro. People are coming in from the first world as well and beating us in many different ways.

[Brett Dasovic]

Somebody right now who's been wanting to complain about immigration but doesn't want to get called racist. Like, see what I mean?

[Shane Smith]

This is fantastic.

[Brett Dasovic]

Get rid of the French people.

[Myron Gaines]

H1B visa. That's another big scam.

[Shane Smith]

Oh yeah, you got to get rid of that.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I appreciate you saying all of this because there's a lot of conservatives and even like normie conservatives who will recognize this if you tell someone they can't leave their child an inheritance. If you have an inheritance tax that disincentivizes them from working hard to build up, well, to leave their child, their children. Well, guess what? If you don't have the understanding that you're going to be able to leave the country you live in to your children instead of unlimited immigrants, you're probably not going to build as prosperous a nation.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah, that makes perfect sense. It's just. Yeah, it's common sense. When everyone. People are like, oh, you don't like brown people? It's like I keep saying, America's for Americans. What don't you understand about that? Americans are all colors. I'll freak out. I will. I'll freak out and head. But you, not you specifically, but the person I'm hypothetically arguing with that I didn't actually have a real argument with in person.

[Seamus Coughlin]

But you owned him, dude.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, I did?

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Full forehead to the face, dude. He never saw it coming.

[Brett Dasovic]

And those people, like, the people who are having that discussion with you haven't actually paid, like, close enough attention to what's going on with immigration now, where the average person still wants to think of what this country would have been like in the 70s and the 80s when the people who did immigrate here with full support of everybody because they believed in American values, they believed in what America stood for, they came here to be Americans, and that was something that we celebrated. And I think for, you know, at least for me, that's something that I would still like. When you look at who the most successful immigrant groups are in this country, I don't like. It's never gonna bother me. And I understand the point. Moratorium. If the point is that you have a lot of stuff there that you have to figure out. There's a lot of stuff that has to be done. But I love. I still love the idea, and I think a lot of Americans still love the idea of the immigrant success story. What they don't like is the way that language has been used to abuse them. At least the ones who have caught where what used to be clearly defined as an illegal alien became illegal immigrant, which became immigrant, which is all the language has just flowed through to the point where now when people complain about these things, they don't even know what they're talking about. Because every time that you bring this up, they're like, so you just hate immigrants? Like, no, the word illegal there matters it was undocumented immigrant for, like five to 10 years. And it's just been softened so much that when you see the propaganda, whether it's from celebrities who never have to deal with these crises, they don't even know what you. You're talking about because you're trying to be specific, and they tell you that being specific is a problem.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, I mean, we've just been soft on immigration for a very long time.

[Brett Dasovic]

And.

[Myron Gaines]

And the thing is, is like the ina, the Immigration Nationality act, the United States, it's just ripe for exploitation. It's been exploited. And I think we're at a point now where it's like, we need to reform everything. Our visa system, our green card system, everything. And we just need to, you know, stop with immigration for a bit to fix everything. Because this says. And then the other problem, too, is like, people don't come here, right, to assimilate. They come here to bring their culture in here. They don't want to assimilate. They want to bring all their weird third world stuff with them. And this is a problem. Right? It used to be people come here and they assimilate. They don't do that anymore.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's what I was trying to say.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Degree, actually. I mean, to a degree. But past waves of immigration massively reshaped our country. And so it's funny, I hear these lefties going, well, you know, your ancestors get came here. It's like, hold on, you're constantly complaining that a bunch of Catholics were able to make abortion illegal in the United States. That's because of Irish immigration, bro. Yeah, yeah. That didn't just fall from the sky. We a bunch of. And not just Irish, but Polish and Italian. A lot of Catholic immigrants came in at the turn of the century. And I'm very glad about that. But as it turns out, I don't want anyone from any part in the world coming to our country to spread any random ideology. And one more thing, they'll bring up the Italians. It's like, yeah, can you imagine if the Italians came to the United States and didn't totally assimilate and they started doing this thing in America where they had, like, feuding families that broke the law and killed each other, and they.

[Shane Smith]

Like, had an empire in the desert and they made hundreds of millions of dollars and started affecting politics and got involved in the assassination of a president. Can you imagine? Can you imagine these immigrants being up to stuff?

[Myron Gaines]

And the other thing, too, I think America needs to just understand is like, if we don't fix this we're going to be like Canada. In Canada you go to Toronto, you think you're in India, bro. I mean like what's going on?

[Unknown Female Host]

I thought Brampton was India, but yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Like it's, it's like. And if you want, if you want to lose your country, then like let's just let more people in and be super woke and be like Canada and the UK people.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like there is a lot of weaponized empathy in this country. There's a lot of suicidal.

[Shane Smith]

I was going to say, I would call it suicidal.

[Brett Dasovic]

The. No, the politicians use weaponized empathy and that has instinctually given a lot of people a certain level of suicide.

[Myron Gaines]

I'll give you another example. Like when I was on the southwest border, right, I was in Laredo.

[Jeff Bridges]

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[Dana]

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[Jeff Bridges]

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[Dana]

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[Jeff Bridges]

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[Brett Dasovic]

Nice.

[Dana]

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[Myron Gaines]

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[Jeff Bridges]

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[Dana]

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[Myron Gaines]

Data 182025 Visit t mobile.com Talon I've been to El Paso. Like all these different places on the southwest border, you don't feel like you're in America. No one speaks to English. You go to the bathroom there. Like in Mexico they don't have like plumbing. So like everyone takes their like wipes their ass and puts it in the little waste basket. They don't flush it. Like all the waste baskets are filled like thing but, but that's an example of what I mean where people come to the country even though they're in America. They forget, oh I'm in America. They don't learn the language. They don't assimilate. They bring their stupid customs with them. So that's an example of what I mean, where, like, if we continue with this, in this trajectory, this will not look like America anymore. And if you don't believe me, you want to get a tape of what it's like, go to the Southwest Texas or to south Southern California, and you'll see people don't speak English. If you feel like you're in Mexico. Dude.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Dude. And this is so funny to kind of go back to, like, the soft conservatives. They'll acknowledge, oh, all of those people coming from California are going to come to my state, and then they're going to completely change the culture and make it liberal. But then they're like, well, as long as the immigrant comes here legally, it's fine. It's like the guy from California came there legally, too. But you recognize that someone coming from a different place with different values isn't good for you and your. Your family.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Measured numbers again. In principle, it can be great. But, like, in practice, especially with what's happened right now, no, it's not working.

[Brett Dasovic]

And before long, bad bunnies doing the super bowl for you, dude.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, And Puerto Rican. That's the thing that kills me is like, bro, you're an American. Like, you. You have our.

[Shane Smith]

Speak English, dummy.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, you. You need to speak English. And it's like, this is what I'm trying to say. Like, this is the goal that people have, right? Like, where it's like, no, you're going to learn my language. Whatever. It's like, no, dude. Like, we need to go back to telling people, like, dude, okay, we need to bring racism back. We're. I hate to say we're still on the main show, so I'll chill, but we need to bring racism back.

[Brett Dasovic]

It is before the lady who, like, she did the national anthem for, I don't remember what event it was, and she did it in Spanish and said, I felt like I needed to. I said, if you were an American and you went to Spain and did the, you know, their national anthem anthem in English, how would they feel about that? Would they have a right to do so? They're going to tell you. Yes, they do. Going to tell you that you do.

[Shane Smith]

Not remember when Borat went and sang the national anthem of Kazakhstan in English to the tune of Star Spangled Banner and everyone started booing him. Yeah, that sucks. That's what you're doing. You're Borat, lady. You boo. You suck.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, that's why I'd argue. It's not that we need to bring racism back. It's. There's so many things that have been called racism that aren't. Like wanting someone to speak your language. That's not racist.

[Brett Dasovic]

That's no. Ok.

[Tim]

Instinct.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So I speak English. If you're in the United States, dude, you'll hear about people. People. And it's like this poor man, he was deported after 20 years and he didn't speak English. I'm like, he's here for 20 years and he didn't speak English? How does that happen? It's like an immersion program. Is six months. Where was he?

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, that's crazy. Mormon missionaries learn how to speak a new language in, like, three weeks, dude.

[Myron Gaines]

Crazy, man.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah. And they're out here pounding the pavement with their weird little helmets on so you can learn English.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Maybe it's a thinking cap and that's why they're able to do it.

[Shane Smith]

You know what? Consider I had not, dude. They're little bikes. I love my Mormons.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's the thing I. This. Yeah, I. Obviously, I disagree with Mormons on a number of theological issues, but, like, everyone on the left who rips on Mormons, it's like, I know you're ripping on them for, like, the things I share in common with them, right?

[Shane Smith]

Oh, they're. Yeah. Mormons suck. They're so dorky how they love their kids and have both their parents.

[Myron Gaines]

Don't do drugs and don't.

[Shane Smith]

Don't do drugs and don't drink and go to school and. And have girlfriends and then get married to them normal style and have careers and enjoy themselves and have more motorcycles. You know how lame that is?

[Seamus Coughlin]

You know, it's funny.

[Shane Smith]

They should be mentally ill like me. I'm on five medications and I don't. My penis doesn't work anymore. It's cool.

[Seamus Coughlin]

My wife says if you see a big, happy family and they're, like, kind of messy, they're Catholic. And if you see a big, happy family and they're, like, put together, they're Mormon.

[Shane Smith]

That's pretty fair.

[Myron Gaines]

That's pretty fair.

[Shane Smith]

And if you see a big, happy family and they're all walking behind dad, that's Muslim.

[Brett Dasovic]

There you go.

[Myron Gaines]

You keep our women in check. That's the one thing we do right.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

No rights for you guys.

[Shane Smith]

All right, Kamala Harris talking. She's. She's spitting facts. Kamala Harris. I lost young men to the manosphere, Myron.

[Myron Gaines]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Tell us what happened here.

[Myron Gaines]

She wrote in her book Basically that she lost. You know, her. She blames me and Andrew Tate, but my thing is, like, dude, you. You never had the young men in the first place. You were already. I mean, I appreciate the compliment. I appreciate I'. It, but, like, you never had him in the first place, man.

[Shane Smith]

That would be like, idea.

[Seamus Coughlin]

The idea that, like, Kamala had the. The manosphere locked down, and then he came along with Fresh and Fit, and.

[Shane Smith]

She lost all of them.

[Myron Gaines]

Like me and Andrew K. But it start called women bimbos, and, like, we.

[Shane Smith]

Just took all the men.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, no, dude. The reality is, like, Democrats and the left in general has been ostracizing and on men for too long. Like, if you look at even the biggest leftwing political commentators, like, they're just not cool and they're corny, and they're, like, too politically correct. It's like, does anyone here want to hang out with Hassan Piker? Like, no, dude. Like. Like, let's be honest.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, dog, bro.

[Myron Gaines]

You know? Like, yeah, dog. No. So, like. Like, these are the type of guys, like, if you say something like, oh, yeah, that's lame. Or, like, if you use a slur, I'm. We're on YouTube. Yeah. If you use a slur, what's gonna happen? Oh, you can't say that. This is problematic. Dude, get out of here. We don't want to hang out. Like, guys, the thing with men, right? With men, you have to be authentic, right? If you want to sell to men, they have to like and trust you. Like, with women, you could scam all day and be a fraud. It doesn't matter, right? Dr. Oz and Oprah, whatever. Who cares? It's easy to sell to women because it's easy to settle women because they're stupid. Right. Let's just be honest. They're stupid. But with men, it's way harder. Yeah, it's way harder to sell. You guys don't agree?

[Seamus Coughlin]

I don't.

[Shane Smith]

No, I agree.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I think women need male.

[Shane Smith]

I'm with you.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I certainly agree. Women need male leadership. I don't think they're stupid.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, I. Yeah. I don't know. But I mean, I think that, you know, everyone can be stupid.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah, well, my wife is very intelligent. Therefore, I will use my anecdotal evidence.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

So my wife's not a woman. She's my wife.

[Myron Gaines]

See, like, I'm not saying every woman is stupid, but the majority is. And if they don't got a guy, then they're definitely cooked. Like, they need male leadership is what I'm trying to Say, I agree.

[Shane Smith]

They need male leadership.

[Myron Gaines]

They need male. They'll need. They're like children, bro. Like that's what they are. So like the, the reality is like what is that offensive? Well anyway, yeah, they're like, yeah. So either, either way, like, yeah, I don't, I don't think. Yeah. So coming back to that. So it's easy to sell to women because women are more impressionable. Their followers are communic, communitarian by nature. This is why all the ads are ran for women. In a way they market to women. With men, you have to be authentic. So if guys can't identify or like they don't feel like they can share a beer with you, they're not going to like you. Yeah, that's just how it is. And this is what the left has been doing a really shitty job with because look at all the top left wing political commentators. Do you think you're going to sit and have a beer with Harry Sisson?

[Seamus Coughlin]

No.

[Myron Gaines]

With a soft biker? No. Like none of them are cool.

[Brett Dasovic]

That would have been, that would have actually done her better if she was like looking to change people's mind wouldn't be to say that she lost the mail vote to you, but to say that I lost the mail vote to our horrible influencers that don't actually represent anything that men actually.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Totally. I want to mention, I like it is true. Obviously when they're marketing towards so much of it is just dumping all over men and it's like, of course men aren't going to follow you. And they try to do this one commercial thing. Oh yeah, years ago, man, it was horrible.

[Myron Gaines]

Like that should show you guys sitting.

[Brett Dasovic]

On the back of the truck. Who's never sat on the back of a truck before?

[Seamus Coughlin]

No, no, no, that was the white guys for hair Score. He's talking about Gillette.

[Myron Gaines]

So Gillette released this, released this really stupid commercial years ago. The guy stops him where the stops the guy, you know, you know, talking about toxic masculinity. And the reason why I always use this commercial is because that's a great barometer of where we are in society. A men's razor company is ostracizing their client base to appease to an opposite gender that doesn't really buy their razors. That's the equivalent to like, could you imagine if like Victoria Secret came out with a commercial like, hey, stop being stupid, make sandwiches again.

[Shane Smith]

Could you imagine what would happen to.

[Myron Gaines]

Victoria's Secret if they literally came out of the commercial commercial? Like start making sandwiches for men. Start Listening to them, you're stupid, you're bimbos. Like their, their sales would tank because we never tell women the truth. But like with men, we could on them all day and they thought it was a good idea. Thankfully people boycott and they lost money. But that just goes to show the barometer where we appeal so much to women that even male companies for females.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, and part of the problem is that men are not standing up and being leaders. Unfortunately, there's a great priest who mentioned this about the Garden of Eden, Genesis, and he's like, why was Adam letting his wife talk to a snake? Yeah, like, and that's what these advertisers are. That's what these political leaders are. These are serpents, dude. And you have to be in the middle of that. You have to protect your family from these kinds of people and these kinds of things. And then you mentioned about like male authenticity and being able to grab a beer, dude, I totally agree. And obviously when you're like, when you're with the guys too and like women and children aren't present and they can't hear, you just say way more offensive stuff than you do. If you know you're within earshot of women or you know you're within earshot.

[Shane Smith]

Of children, women change the temperature of.

[Seamus Coughlin]

The 1 million percent. That's also why it's important to just have like spaces that are male only and we don't even have that anymore. No, like the moment you start allowing women into certain male only spaces, men are no longer interested in doing it because they can't just have a conversation without like worrying, am I going to say the wrong thing in front of a woman? Or am I going to like say something that's crazy and offensive and against her dignity or whatever it is? Like, am I, am I going to say like a cuss word in front of the lady? Whereas like when you're just with the dudes, you could speak to much more freely, but we don't have that anymore.

[Shane Smith]

It's also the thing where you can make fun of men. And so these people on the left think like, oh, I can attack men because I attack women, I attack white women. And they're with it. White women are weirdly delusional. Where you could be like, white people are evil. You did this to us. You got to help. Blah, blah, blah, you don't deserve things, you got to change. And then a white girl will hear that and be like, but not me. You like me. I'm one of the good ones. And she'll really put herself like, nope, you're not talking, talking about me. But as a man, as a man, when they go white people are evil, or they say men are like, young men are the worst. Whatever, whatever. And you're, as a man, you're sitting there going, I think she's talking about me. I think I'm the one.

[Myron Gaines]

And I'll say this too, because like, you know, during the 2024 campaign, like me and Andrew were both like endorsing Trump. And I know people are going to say, oh, well, you know, Trump is owned by them boys. Which I agree he is to a degree. And I don't like what he's doing with Israel and stuff. But I still think that he was a way better decision that Kamala, because let me tell you this, at least we're able to. We have more free speech now. Censorship on social media platforms has definitely went back compared to what it was under the Biden era. We got Emmer. He's actually, you know, doing what he's supposed to do with immigration. He at least tried to talk to Poon, even though we'll see what happens with that whole conflict. So I do think he's a way better choice. And quite frankly, dude, I'm not voting for a female president. I don't think women should ever have power. I don't even think women should have the right to vote. If we're going to be honest, I think we need to repeal the next, the 19th Amendment. Because if we didn't, I'll say this. If we had to rely on the female vote, Kamala Harris would be in office right now.

[Shane Smith]

Well, yeah, every time.

[Myron Gaines]

Because women are single issue voters. Like that, like this is that. And that's a big problem.

[Shane Smith]

I think vote, I think voting should be something you earn, not a. It shouldn't just be something you have.

[Myron Gaines]

Yes. Since they're not a selective service.

[Shane Smith]

Possibly. I know that that's originally what we did. We went men who own property. I don't think that we should gatekeep it that way. I think that you can own property. Property or maybe service. We'll get a little starship. That's what I was transaction going.

[Myron Gaines]

So it's like, so women don't have to go into like the service. So like, I look at it like, here's not. Let's just be honest here. Not only do they not have to enroll in selective service when they are in the military, they make it worse. They suck as cops. When I was an agent, I never put women ever in the entry team.

[Shane Smith]

Of any unit, you got to make.

[Myron Gaines]

It proof for them. Like if you're in a military unit, dude, I'd be pissed if I'm in an infantry unit and there's a woman and I got, she's got to drag me to safety. Like, they, they make everything weaker and worse.

[Shane Smith]

We're in fore militaries that employ female soldiers like the YPG and Courtesan, they just do all women units. So whatever happens, happens.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And it.

[Shane Smith]

They find that it raises morale across the board significantly.

[Myron Gaines]

They should never be in with. With men. And I don't think they should be ever in combat roles. It should be support role if anything. And they shouldn't be patrolled. If they're going to be cops, they shouldn't be in patrol. Because here's the thing, no guy wants to be partnered up with a female dude. Let's be honest here. You know, if you get in a shootout or something like that, how many cop videos are we going to see here where the woman doesn't know what she's doing? She can't get the guy under control.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Motivator to fight in a war too. Like, the motivator to fight in war is like, we got to protect our women and children. So if there are women on the.

[Shane Smith]

Front lines, we get them out here with us.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, what's the point? I got a friend who said this. He's like, any country that sends its women to fight in wars deserves to lose. Yeah, it's just a complete, complete failure to understand the sexes. And you're right, they. I, it's funny. I knew a woman who was in the military, but at one, one point she was like, yeah, I don't think women should do this. I was like, really? And she's like. And she made the point you made. She's like, I can't drag a guy in in gear out of combat. And she's like, that's why I'm not going to be in a combat role.

[Myron Gaines]

And, and I like. And people get like, gave Pete Hexeth the whole problem about this. Like, you know, one state. Look, if we're going to put one standard, a woman can do it, great. But let's be honest, 99% of women are going to fail. So I think that's a good thing because it keeps them out. And honestly, yeah, we need to protect women and children because they're the more vulnerable class of people. So.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And I, yeah, I would, I would even take it a step further on that one part. Even if you have a woman who meets that standards? I do not think she should be in a combat role. I think it's wrong.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, isn't the. From what I've heard is that, like.

[Myron Gaines]

If you definitely shouldn't be an infantry.

[Brett Dasovic]

Men and women are in combat together, that if a woman gets hurt, the man.

[Myron Gaines]

Yes. That's a big reason. That's a big reason. Why do that? They did not allow them in infantry for a very long time was literally because of that they would compromise the unit to, like. Because, you know, it's just an inherent protection thing. Right? Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

So like, you can't override.

[Seamus Coughlin]

It's also like.

[Shane Smith]

I remember what I was saying for morale to like.

[Brett Dasovic]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

In an infantry unit, you can't even let the funniest guy do things that could get him hurt. You have to protect certain people. When you have a tune, you're like managing people trying to keep. Because Napoleon said morale is to a man as three is to one. Morale is the most important thing. So when you have women degrading morale and making it difficult and then one of them gets hurt, that's going to affect you deeply. To watch a woman scream for her mother while she dies and her guts are hanging out and you're there like, yeah. To see your friend do that is one thing. Like, hey, we're warriors. You signed up for this. There's no part of my brain that goes, that woman signed up for this.

[Myron Gaines]

And here's the other thing.

[Shane Smith]

No part of me.

[Myron Gaines]

Female POWs puts the. The nation in a horrible position because now we. Yeah, they could exactly get ready, assault.

[Shane Smith]

You as a man when you get captured. Exactly what they're going to do to you as a woman is going to be.

[Myron Gaines]

And here's other. Here's the other ugly thing. Now that puts your government at a higher risk to negotiate with, to get them back because of. From a propaganda standpoint. Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Nobody already experienced that this speaks. Everyone will say like, oh, this is a horrible misogynistic thing. But the whole point is because we love women and don't want them to be POWs. And it's not that we don't care about the men, but like you said.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

With a man, you go, this is part of like the nature of a man. Men are supposed to be warriors and protectors and, you know, cartoonists. Like, yeah, yeah, But I was about the male only spaces thing and how men can speak more freely when they're just with the guys. They don't have to worry about, like, the dignity of the woman in the room and protecting that. And they can just have conversations without like, is this a word I can't say? Or on a woman or whatever. What about, what about when you're in the military fighting in a battle, dude, you can't be think, you can't be thinking about that when you're fighting in a war. That's insane.

[Myron Gaines]

And here's another thing too. Like there's no one that's talked to more females than I have. I talked to, I've Talked to almost 4,000 girls on my show and there's like, it's insane the amount of information I've been able to collect and one of the biggest things I've been able to, you know, figure out about females, regardless of their background, their race, their education level, their upbringing, etc. Right. That might influence a little bit. But one of the, the things that's incredible is they have this inability to understand generalizations. Like if I say something that's objectively true, generally they'll say, well, that doesn't apply to me. Right. And, and I get it. Because women are naturally narcissistic and solid cystic because they're the more vulnerable sex. They have to protect themselves because they carry the next lineage of a human being. They have to be more selfish. This is the truth, right? It is what it is.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I feel like human being isn't selfish. Like that's the, that's my, my body giving up for you.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, yeah. But the point I'm trying to make is, is like they have an inability to, to understand concepts that are abstract, especially when it comes to generality. So if I say something, they'll say, well, that doesn't apply to me. And I'm like, well, yeah, it might not. Or maybe you're the exception to the rule. But they'll make an argument for the exception to the rule. And then another important thing as well is they have a big issue with the way information is conveyed. So in other words, if I say yeah, you're guys won't really get mad about that. But if you say that to, a woman should get mad because she won't like the way that you said it. So for them, the way you convey information is more important than the content of the information.

[Shane Smith]

I will agree. I think everything you're saying is real right now. It's just uncomfortable, you know, obviously. But when you, when you, the way you say something is so much more important than what you say. I know. Because for women.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

As a dude, especially if you're being sketchy, you can say Mean things in a nice way. And a girl will be like, oh.

[Myron Gaines]

My gosh, you're the best.

[Shane Smith]

And you're like, like what? How are you not noticing what I'm like, that's crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, like with. And that's, that's another thing too. Why, like, you know, when men communicate, we're more concerned with the content of the information and the validity. And most importantly, here's another big thing that they don't understand with a man. If a guy talks down to you, but he's better than you in a way, we understand meritocracy. We understand hierarchies. Women don't understand this.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I agree with that part.

[Myron Gaines]

If a guy walks into a room and he's a multi millionaire successful and he talks down to the guys in there, everyone's going to shut the up and listen because they're like, this guy's better than me. We all understand. L like hierarchy. Women do not understand this. And I've, it's amazing to me that, you know, I've had to talk to thousands of girls to figure this out, but they don't get this. They look at it like, well, everyone's equal. Communitarian.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

Egalitarianism. Right. And this is why they can't govern. I don't think they should be in positions of power because they don't understand this. Oh, you, you know what? All of us get a dollar versus Tom did the best job, he gets ten hours. You know, Tim did the second best, he gets seven dollars. They don't understand meritocracy, dude. It's, it's incredible. And this is why they can't be.

[Shane Smith]

In positions of power.

[Myron Gaines]

Simply put, and I know that sounds up, but yeah, women are stupid.

[Shane Smith]

I don't agree that. I wouldn't say that women are stupid, but that. I would say that there are major differences between men and women. And it, And I will say the odds of a random woman being plucked off the street and being a better leader than a random man feels intuitively wrong to me.

[Myron Gaines]

Impossible, right?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And even women prefer to be governed by men. Like, if you ask a woman, would you prefer a male boss or a female boss? 9 out of 10 times I prefer a male boss.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's true.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

In the age of the Internet, now that the idea of, like the anecdotal evidence has become more and more common where you say something that is generally true and somebody says, well, but this. And I see that all the time now from everyone, like we were pointing out earlier, we're talking about like when, when somebody, you know, dies and the first thing that goes is what they sound like. The first thing you forget is what the person sound like. And I saw like multiple people say like that's not true because when my, you know, my mom died or my uncle died, like I still remember what they sound like. I'm like, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the, from what I read from studies that the first thing that generally people. But I don't even know if that's necessarily just women. Just in this day and age, people are becoming more and more narcissistic and their only frame of reference when they're holding, you know, when they're talking to you is their own life experience. It's actually something that I try to point out on this show is like you talk a lot in theory, you talk a lot you know, because we're talking about large scale concepts in abstracts. But most people these days, you lose them because anecdotal evidence is so powerful for lot of people. It's like when you talk about immigration. Well, we need to do this because this is happening and it's affecting our job market. It's affecting all of these things. Like, but I know a guy who lives next door to me and it was horrendous to see that happen. As society becomes more narcissistic, that argument is going to happen more to every.

[Myron Gaines]

Here's the difference. We can tell a guy you're wrong and have a discussion about it or say that they're dumb. Right?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Right.

[Myron Gaines]

And, and, and like men will be far more logically sound listening to the truth. Two people argue. We're too scared to tell women they're dumb because we want to have sex with them. That's the problem. Or because no one tells women they're dumb.

[Shane Smith]

They don't handle criticism well.

[Myron Gaines]

No, not at all. Because they never get criticized.

[Shane Smith]

I think personally women are wired to submit to one person and that's the person they marry. And so they're purposefully wired to be obstinate towards all other people. Other women. No, I'm the queen of my house. Other men. No, I have a husband. That's like a, that's where a woman thrives in her femininity. So her obstinate, her rudeness, her inability to listen, her inability to be a leader, those are all great things when ordered towards the thing that she's the best at.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right. That's very true. And you mentioned women like thriving in the house. That's Very true. And a lot of what we're talking about with like a difficulty with hierarchy or wanting to even things out. That's actually great when you're raising children, like when you're dealing with children below a certain age, it's understandable why that instant instinct is there and then it's supposed to be balanced out by the father who goes like no, he did mess up and he can face consequences.

[Shane Smith]

Right.

[Seamus Coughlin]

There's a, there's this great line from C.S. lewis. He says a man has to protect his wife from the world and he also has to protect the world from his wife. Basically she is always going to want to push for her child, which is beautiful. But like when the child is wrong they should be able to face some consequences. We've got a whole generation of people who are raised by these overbearing mothers who always went to bad for them even when they did some something wrong. And the father was in the back.

[Shane Smith]

Seat like oh yes dear or not.

[Seamus Coughlin]

There ends up growing up to being a monster or he's not there.

[Shane Smith]

This is why the front seat of his car and he's across the country.

[Myron Gaines]

Statistically speaking, this is why single fathers do better than single mothers actually. Because like this is how important it is to like discipline your kid. Yeah. You might not have the whole like oh I wasn't loved that much but like you'll be tougher. You'll, you know, understand that there's consequences. Like cuz the re. I've always said like a good dad keeps a daughter off the sherpole and their son out of jail. Like versus like your mom. Right. Like we know single mother households like lead to, you know, the biggest fuck ups in society. So a lot of people will bring.

[Shane Smith]

Up like oh, discipline. My mom hit me a lot. Hitting you or yelling at you or trying to keep you from doing things isn't discipline.

[Myron Gaines]

Especially when you reach teenage years.

[Shane Smith]

Discipline is a skill that you cultivate through being taught by someone else.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. But anyway, with this whole thing with, with Kamala Harris, like my job was. Yeah. My job was just to make sure that we don't have a president, a female president. I don't, I really, really don't think women should vote or be in positions of power in the United States at all.

[Shane Smith]

Do we have an American eagle scream sound bite?

[Myron Gaines]

We can throw up over that real quick, you know. You know, I just, you know, look, and I want to be clear about this. Are there women out there that are competent enough to hold positions of power that their logically Sound side of their brain will override their emotional side, of course, but it's not enough to justify opening the doors for them to come in. I don't think they should vote or have any of that stuff. And I do think that they should be focusing on family, having children, domestic stuff, making delicious sandwiches and not pursuing school because. And education and work, because that, that's feminism, I would argue, has been the catalyst for so many of the societal problems we have now.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't even know if I necessarily agree with you, but I do think that in general, most people aren't cut out for politics. Like, when you're, when you're talking about these types of stories, like, okay, we agree on immigration, Are you going to be the one who says, go and pull this person out of their house in front of their neighbors to. And to get them out of the country for the good of everybody else here? And most people aren't wired to do that type of action. Like, I think a lot of it is because we've turned politics into a spectator sport where everybody's sharing their theories back and forth about how things should be. But most people, it's why very few people are cut out to be a CEO. They are not cut out to remove entire divisions of a brand to keep the company afloat. They're not cut out to look at people as pieces on a chessboard, because that's how most people aren't wired. But there is a certain type of person that is. Now, if that falls specifically more common than not in men, than women, then yes. But most of the time these days, I would argue that most of us are not cut out for that type of leadership.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, the Sad thing about 100, most people aren't cut out for, like, things every adult was capable of doing 100 years ago.

[Myron Gaines]

Like with the voting thing. My thing is women don't have skin in the game, so they shouldn't vote because of. They're not in selective service. They're not a selective service.

[Shane Smith]

So I don't have to go.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, I think. I don't. I think they. Like, with men, we can have a discussion of, okay, maybe they should have a civics test. Maybe they should have some type of other experience, whatever. But with, like, women, it's like they're not even in the game because they don't have. I find it absolutely ludicrous that they can vote to put the, you know, to who put the commander in chief who runs the military with no skin in the game. That's insane to me.

[Brett Dasovic]

What do you mean? I was told by Hillary Clinton that women are the true victims of war.

[Seamus Coughlin]

War?

[Shane Smith]

Was that before or after she called Bill? After. Not talking to him from. For years. And demanded he bombed the Balkans. She is evil.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Anyway, like, women are the real victims of war.

[Myron Gaines]

That's why I love it.

[Shane Smith]

That's why I love it so much. That's why I ruined I'm the Queen. Yeah. And created one of the largest slavery markets in the modern world.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I'm Hillary Clinton.

[Myron Gaines]

We came, we saw, he died.

[Shane Smith]

It's like, okay, cool, Hillary. Way sweet.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah. I mean, just bring up this right here. The wide ideology gap that's open between the men and women. People have talked about this before. Tim has talked about this a lot. But you can see how big the gap has grown in almost every country across the world.

[Shane Smith]

Dude, South Korea.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, dude. The men in South Korea are going.

[Myron Gaines]

Literally, I can't see the chart. So what. What does this. Because I can't.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, let me see if I can zoom in a little bit here. Vision. That's about as good as I can get.

[Myron Gaines]

So this is like their ideology gap. Like.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

Like, if you think about the right being down and the left being up in this situation, liberal and conservative. Do you see the men in South Korea are going pretty hard to the. To the right, and the women are kind of, you know, a pretty chill. Plus 30, it looks like here. But the scale is all the same, so you can definitely tell that the men in South Korea are.

[Seamus Coughlin]

You know, everyone talks about men being radicalized. It's like men are, like, way on every single chart except for South Korea. I don't know. Maybe they're all talking about South Korea. Yeah. It looks like everywhere else, men are not the ones who have been radicalized.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, exactly.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

I mean, I just wanted to bring that up here. I guess we can go to super chats now if you.

[Shane Smith]

It is super. Oh, wait, before we go, Jimmy Kimmel, his show is bad.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Just want to say, we don't like Jimmy.

[Shane Smith]

I just. I just. As a comic, I want to bring up that Jimmy Kimmel, who I don't think should have had his show taken away, but it wasn't, so he did. What did we say earlier? He. He's like the version of a cop that does a bad shoot and get some time off. So viewership crashes after his week of ratings. Boom. Who could have seen that coming? Yeah, who could have known? Here's my plan. Jimmy, I know you watch this show, so what you need to do to get your show to be more popular. What you're gonna do is you're gonna do blackface how you used to.

[Myron Gaines]

Okay?

[Shane Smith]

You're gonna go on there. And that's not all. You're going to make jokes about Charlie in blackface.

[Brett Dasovic]

You can do that now.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Goldberg said that everybody should put on brown face at the Super Bowl.

[Shane Smith]

He's uncanny. Cancelable. Jimmy is a free speech warrior, and he's to show us all what free speech really looks like by throwing on black face and dis. And disrespecting Charlie's memory live on television.

[Unknown Female Host]

Dude, remember him back in the days, like the man show? Remember how, like, Eddie that was compared to now? It's like, it's like all the gloves are on now. He's like putting all the. All the pillows on himself and patting himself. Make sure he does everything the right way.

[Myron Gaines]

It's so, you know, this is, you know, I think this symbolizes. I've we discussed this a little bit earlier, but I truly do think, like, mainstream tell television is just done. It's cooked, like, from a media perspective, from a comedian perspective, from like a, you know, movie perspective. Like, and I think the 2024 election cycle kind of proved that. You look at like, Kamala Harris's route where she went and, you know, got endorsements from people like Beyonce and Taylor Swift, you know, Lebron James, all like your traditional A list celebrities versus Trump went the route of influencers and streamers and, you know, leveraging some social media, and he beat her in a landslide. And hell, even Kamala mentioned, like, oh, yeah, I didn't have the manosphere, even though she never had it anyway. But I think this goes to show that the media landscape is changing. Like, you know, you got like Tim Cast, right? You guys are doing views just as much as like, cnn, right? IPD podcast. Like, a lot of these independent media groups are starting to overtake mainstream media, which is good because, you know, if we don't have alternative media, we end up like in early 2000 2000s, where we're supporting a war for no reason. Because all they were doing is saying, oh, they hate us because of our freedom. They hate us with our freedom. And we had nothing else to listen to. Like, I don't think people understand that, like, the media really played into the Iraq war significantly. But now Trump was double. Was like, you know, thinking twice before bombing Iran. You, like, you could see he was like, really strategizing because the base was like, dude, what are you doing? We said no war, no new wars. And alternative media people that like, had supported him and endorsed him were like, no wars. No wars of war. Even Charlie Kirk. So he had to kind of go about it in a, in a more methodical and strategic manner, which is good. So I think alternate media keeps politicians honest. It gives the people a voice. And then also, you know, it weeds out, you know, stooges like this guy. And quite frankly, no one watches late night shows anymore, bro. It's not David Letterman and Jay Leno era anymore.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, even, even whether it's mainstream or alternative media, it's more about being authentic. Because, like, I heard you guys mentioning it earlier. She did call, call her daddy and it didn't matter. They rebuilt a set because they're in. They're not capable of actually being authentic and sharing.

[Shane Smith]

It would have been better to do that podcast freestyle just in the White House or whatever. Like, and act like, you mentioned a good point.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, she not only did she do that podcast, but it's like, dude, the people that are watching this podcast would have voted for you anyway. Like, dumb bimbos. They're going to vote for you.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Myron Gaines]

I could kill a baby. Baby, let's do it, right? I'm a like, but like, no dude from the man.

[Shane Smith]

Like, no dude who watches you is like, and I gotta see what the guys we effed girls are up to or whatever.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, what you gotta go on adversarial shows to like, try to. Like, this is why I like doing debates and like going on. This is why leftists are idiots. Like, I don't know why they don't like these liberal political commentators. Like, they should be doing right wing shows all the time because, like, you get exposed to a whole other audience. And here's the thing, like with conservatives that I've realized if you're able to make good arguments and stand on your points, even if you have a different ideology, people will respect you on this side.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

The thing is none of them can make good arguments. That's why they're not doing it.

[Myron Gaines]

That's why.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's why you lose comma fan base, bro. Like, they were all watching. They were all. They were going to comma's Rumble channel and like chatting in with their questions. And then you came along and she lost.

[Shane Smith]

I'm losing my mind thinking about her going on your show. Not like as the main guest. She's just one of the girls. Girls, like, you're like, introduce yourself. And she's like, my name's Cherry. I'm a stripper from Georgia. And then you're like.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And you.

[Shane Smith]

Are you single? What do you do for a living? And she's like, my name's Kamala Harris. She's all nervous on the podcast, sandwiched between two or whatever. That would be crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

But it's. It's just like, you know, like, she didn't want to do Rogan. I think that was a huge L, right?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, yeah, dude. It was idiot. But she knew she was gonna get torn to shreds if she went on Rogan.

[Brett Dasovic]

Because you ask her basic questions.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah, literally.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, so can you explain that Russia.

[Seamus Coughlin]

A bigger country next to Ukraine, a smaller country.

[Myron Gaines]

Because. Because people forget that, like, Trump had a couple blunders on Rogan, too. Like, he asked him about the JFK files. He totally. Oh, yeah, Mike Pompeo, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, oh, God, that was.

[Brett Dasovic]

An L. And he wasn't killing the debates this year. Like, he has no idea, really. Like, he.

[Shane Smith]

No, dude, his cats and dogs thing.

[Myron Gaines]

Is what sent him viral. Like, he. Like, the debate was like, yeah, I agree, man.

[Seamus Coughlin]

It was not his strongest performance at all. You could tell it was not 2016 Trump.

[Brett Dasovic]

And there are people. There are people who are just like, they are the disaff affected liberals and the ones who are looking for any reason to vote the other way because they're sick of being called a Nazi for not. For not having insane policies on immigration, and they're just waiting for somebody to have. Like, if we're not. If we're not. Like, careful. Fetterman is going to be president just by asking basic questions and being able to form a sentence. He will end up being president one day because he called communist pinkos, like, a couple years ago.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Like, you know what?

[Brett Dasovic]

I'm going back to the Democrats now.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. Like, I don't like communists and Republicans. Like, oh, my gosh, that's somewhat normal. Like, he's a closet Republican.

[Brett Dasovic]

And Republicans and conservatives are always looking to engage with arguments and be convinced because they do actually want to have their points challenged. And it's actually a testament to just how bad the platform is over on the left that they're like, you know what? Kamala Harris lost. What should we do? Let's hire Olivia Giuliani. Giuliana to win the men back.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, that was a. That's a fat girl, right? That's a fat chick.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, that was a huge L. This.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Is the thing is, like, I act this. Part of me thinks that the reason she was put there is because there Were like, really nasty women there who didn't like her and were trying to make her hurt. I actually think that it's like that pathologically.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. I was confused.

[Shane Smith]

Like, I was like, imagine how she.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Thought that was a good idea.

[Shane Smith]

Trying to compete with like, the conservative girls we have. Because not only do we have, like, legit, like, trad wives, but we also also have, like mega bimbos in bikinis and maga hats. Like, so you've got this girl out there with gigantic boobs firing off a flamethrower in Texas while riding a four wheeler and a maga hat. And you're like, this is crazy. And then you're like, and what do the liberals have for the men? And it's like a slightly overweight woman who's gonna lecture you on your masculinity. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, no way. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Smith]

I'll take the giant cans and the flamethrower, please.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Did you guys ever see the white dude for Harris commercials? There were multiple with the guys in the truck who's like, I as the manliest man, you know, love the one.

[Brett Dasovic]

Where they're at the ballot box.

[Seamus Coughlin]

There was one where it was like this commercial in the music playing, and it was like. It was like the kind of women. The music you'd hear in like a feminine product commercial. It was like. It was that. It was like, like, this is supposed to appeal to men.

[Myron Gaines]

It was, dude, not only that, like again.

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[Dana]

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[Myron Gaines]

Back to, like, with men, we have to, like, know and trust you. You look at the top guys. Kyle Kalinsky, loser. Hassan Piker, loser. Harry Sisson, loser. Dean Withers, loser. Like, you don't aspire to be like these guys, right? But you look at Andrew Tate, womanizing, driving around in Ferraris and all this other stuff. Now, I know some people might say, well, that's. That's what men want. That's what they want. Or someone like me who tells women to their face they're stupid or goes to the gym, whatever. Like, guys want to. If, if we're going to watch you want to be able to identify with you to some degree. We need to be able to respect you, to take you seriously. No one is respecting Harry S bro. I'm sorry. No one's taking Dean with her seriously. Like, these guys are like. And here's the other thing too. With Harry season that got exposed. Remember when he was like, dming girls, like, trying to get laid and.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

And like, they like canceled him for that. Yeah. Because he was. I can't associate with this.

[Shane Smith]

He was DMing three girls at once and they didn't know about each other and they thought that he was exclusive with each other of them. Yes.

[Myron Gaines]

And they made a big scandal and like, people stopped talking to him.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, canceled for. Are you ser.

[Myron Gaines]

Are you, Are you getting canceled by the left for womanizing?

[Shane Smith]

He let it happen.

[Tim]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

So like, that's just so, like, none of us, like, would respect that. That's lame.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

Like, they write articles about Hassan Piker and they're like, well, he works out, but other than that, we like him.

[Unknown Female Host]

Right.

[Shane Smith]

It is like, yeah, he's a little.

[Brett Dasovic]

MAGA coated because he doesn't like, just act like a slob.

[Seamus Coughlin]

What do they say?

[Shane Smith]

A lib brain and a maga body? Yeah, like a tiny.

[Myron Gaines]

And that's the problem. Like, like anything that comes off as bigoted or fitness oriented or womanizing, anything is like, oh, we can't associate with this. And this is why they're never going to get the men. Because we can't be honest with you. We can't be candid with you. Like, there's certain people, like, there's certain words. If someone won't say to my presence, I'm like, dude, I can't trust you. You can't drop the N bomb, the F bomb. K bomb. Can't say it right now. We're on YouTube. You guys know what I'm saying? If people don't say these terms, I can't trust you, bro. You're saying something's off here. So. Yeah, and that's what these leftist guys, they can't say it because that's problematic.

[Shane Smith]

Authenticity speaks to masculinity immediately, just the same way that empathy speaks to femininity. And that's like two competing things we got going. Right.

[Seamus Coughlin]

So obviously, like, as Catholics, I disagree with Andrew Tate and what he's doing and all the womanizing. But it's important, remember that that's part of why Catholic guys have to stand up and talk about this stuff, frankly. Because if you don't, then those are going to be the only guys talking about. About it.

[Shane Smith]

Right. But it's. And it's also easy to. I do see what is. Cuz Andrew lives an authentic life. Like he is doing exactly what he wants to do, the way he wants to do it. And he's taking, he's like taking control.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, here's the other thing too, guys. Let me, let me. Because me and him have this exact same worldview when it comes to women. Now I get you guys are Catholic and you guys are religious and, and I respect that. But the problem is religion, unfortunately, unfortunately will not, it will not assist you with finding a woman in today's day and age because women have changed so much now with that said, obviously you come more frame, you understand what you're doing, etc, you might find a girl. But what I'm saying is that the days where we had shame, religion, a father figure, the family, the church, the community, all of these what I call social guard rails that kept women in place, they're gone. Yeah, yeah. So it's very difficult for men who are very religious, who are virgins, who want to get married and get, you know, be. Because you lose her, Virginia, on their wedding night, it's very difficult to navigate that now as a man in 2025 versus 1955.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, the beauty of marriage and God's plan for the sexes is it keeps both sexes in line. Because one of the things that happens is literally in every society throughout history, the most dangerous demographic are always unmarried young men.

[Myron Gaines]

Sure, yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

When a young man gets married, he actually orients his thinking towards a more female timetable. And when she gets married, she orients her thinking towards what her husband is saying about the world around her. The sexes complement each other beautifully. I think we need to be working to restore that and promoting marriage and promoting going to church to get People back.

[Myron Gaines]

I agree. But the problem is that feminism has come in and completely derailed that.

[Shane Smith]

So what happens? What has happened now? Because I agree with you. Yeah, it is incredible.

[Myron Gaines]

This is the new normal.

[Shane Smith]

Unfortunately, even in church, you meet girls and they're run through. Yeah, but you know what? We're run through too. So as Catholics in our own, own community, you just have to suck it up and say, I forgive you, I love you. We're going to raise kids who are going to do it right. We didn't get to do it right. They will. So there's a certain part of me as a man who has to sort of be like, you know what? I wasn't good either. Our generation was bad.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's. I will say this, though. I think it's very dangerous though, for a man to wife up a girl that has a promiscuous past. I don't think women can be reformed like men can when it, when it comes to them being three. If there were three women,04s in the past, I don't think she's going to be a good wife for you.

[Shane Smith]

Do you, do you have like a hard limit? Do you have like a thing you would tell a young man who's like, I love her, but I, I like.

[Myron Gaines]

I, I think now again, there's always nuance. There's always girls that will be the exceptions to the rule. But I would argue, like if a girl did sex work or she was only fan chick, or she did something where she was selling her sexuality or something like that. Right. She decides, oh, well, yeah, now I'm going to go ahead and get married. Out of 100, these girls, 95 of them are going to probably regress back to being 304s. Maybe five will actually change and stay that way. But do you want to take that risk with the way the family core system is where you can lose half your money, you can lose your children, you can lose your house. Like it's a huge gamble for men.

[Shane Smith]

No, for sure.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, there's a lot to consider too. I mean, obviously it's a prudential judgment. Someone can choose to marry someone in that position. But there's also the factor of like, do I want my kids to see that they're.

[Myron Gaines]

There's another one.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah. So I agree with.

[Myron Gaines]

There's another one.

[Shane Smith]

I'm with you there.

[Seamus Coughlin]

My whole point is just to say it's like no one is technically off limits in that sense. You can make your own decision at the end of the day, but you also got to balance that against, like, you said, like, well, what's my past? What have I done?

[Shane Smith]

Right?

[Seamus Coughlin]

And figure out if you're equally yolked as a couple, too.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Host]

All right, guys, I think we should move.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Sorry, man. Yeah, yeah, all good.

[Unknown Female Host]

But a lot of people tapped in and want to say some stuff here.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah, let's get these super chat.

[Unknown Female Host]

Basically, we do just read the name of the title, ignore the value, and just read the. The ones that highlight here for you.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, okay.

[Unknown Female Host]

Let's start right here.

[Seamus Coughlin]

All right.

[Shane Smith]

All right. Jacob Howley. I think that's how. Holly. Holly. Breaking from New York Times, the Oregon National Guard has ordered their troops to stand down, and the adjutant general has ordered all guard troops to refuse orders from President Trump and the federal branch. They said they will defend antifa protesters. Insurrection.

[Brett Dasovic]

What?

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

In the. Is that real? Wait, if you're the National Guard, how. How are you taking orders. Orders from the state instead of the federal government? That's interesting to me because technically, like.

[Myron Gaines]

I know that their state governor's supposed to.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, it's just interesting that you're. As a. As a soldier, you would kind of be like, who am I listening to? Yeah, like what?

[Myron Gaines]

They're in a weird spot. Yeah, that's technically the. Under the army, so. Yes.

[Shane Smith]

Dang. All right, let's see. Let's get this next one in this Dan Vicious was just watching Shane on pipes with Aquinas. Hey. Oh, that's awesome. Thank you, man. Appreciate. Appreciate you. Let's see what this cabbage rolls. Sometimes when you read names, you're like, I'm gonna read this. And am I reading a negative thing right now?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Am I reading some kind of dog whistle?

[Shane Smith]

No, for real. That's what I was reading it, and.

[Brett Dasovic]

I was like, start reading it too fast. You get halfway through, you're like, oh.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Crap, whose birthday did I just.

[Shane Smith]

Is it real that Kevin Hutz says. Is it real that runs Hamas? Just a money extraction operation?

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, is it Israel?

[Shane Smith]

Is it Israel? Oh, I was like, is it real? Oh, Israel.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah. Israel runs Hamas. Just a money extraction operation? Yeah, I. I don't think so.

[Myron Gaines]

Support them.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Yeah. The same way that the United States made isis, where. It's not like they're in control of them or something like that, but they aren't armed rebels. They thought. This is the one thing I actually do know about the region is they did arm rebels because they didn't think or not arm them. They promoted them because they thought they would be easier to dismiss than the Secular ones who were opposing their region.

[Myron Gaines]

And not just that, because. Also because the. The fight between Palestinian Authority create more division so that they don't come together between west bank and Gaza.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And Interesting.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, that was another reason too. He supported them.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I didn't know that.

[Shane Smith]

Dirty curdie. Hey, Shane. Mountain Dew Guy.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Hello.

[Shane Smith]

From Salt Lake City Community College Rugby club.

[Myron Gaines]

Whoa.

[Shane Smith]

Did you play with me? Shane played there with me. Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Let's go.

[Shane Smith]

Oh, very cool to see you. I played rugby, everyone. I was not good.

[Unknown Female Host]

Rugby rules.

[Brett Dasovic]

Good afternoon, Guy.

[Unknown Female Host]

I have to say that's cool.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, that is pretty fun.

[Unknown Female Host]

How about this guy right here? I guess Myon just walked out of the room. So we had a one for Myon here. So we're have to.

[Seamus Coughlin]

He could probably save it till he's back.

[Unknown Female Host]

Slide on for another one here. Let's see with this one right here.

[Shane Smith]

ZTG525. Who knows what that means? I align with them on 99% politically. The GOP needs to learn the importance of optics. The basic liberals around me are being radicalized by immigration videos and are dumb. Yeah, like SB323 in South Carolina.

[Brett Dasovic]

I generally agree with that sentiment, but the, the argument you're going to hear back from most of the conservatives is that they've been failing the optics war for decades. And no matter how much they hit the brakes, they're going to make those videos anyways. They could do anything. They could enforce any law and you're going to be called a Nazi and a fascist anym anyways. So, yeah, I generally agree though, like, I think that there is, like, when you saw what they did with Theo Vaughn, putting him in that video.

[Shane Smith]

Right.

[Brett Dasovic]

That was horrible optics. You put a target on his back that didn't need to be there. He was one of the instrumental faces to help get you elected. And as for a lot of people who, like me, who would consider themselves more moderate, like whether it's, you know, we had a whole discussion tonight about immigration, what needs to be done, but the optics matter. And you're going to lose a lot of people in the age of social media because it's just too easy to make those videos. Every time you see the clip of the guy of the ICE agent macing the person, you're never going to see the whole clip. You're never going to see that guy agitate him. You're never going to see them come at them aggressively. The only thing you're going to see is the. Is the mace. And that's how those videos get Made that's right out of the playbook for any radical.

[Shane Smith]

That photo going viral right now of an ICE agent pointing a gun at someone in traffic or something. But it's a paintball gun. He, it's his pepper ball. So they're like, it's loaded. It's not long till these maniacs kill people.

[Myron Gaines]

It's like I'm always like skeptical whenever they show use of force with cops because they never show you everything.

[Shane Smith]

Also the photo of pointing a gun at someone could be you flagging them as you move it. It's a paintball gun.

[Myron Gaines]

Like the other thing too. People should always like, if people don't believe me, look at police activity that, that YouTube channel and you'll see the BS that cops deal with where like they're trying to de escalate all the time. Trust me, guys, cops don't want to get into shootings. Dude, it's like the worst, worst thing ever. Because now you're under investigation. You can go to jail, you can get indicted. Even if it's a clean shoot, you can have a, you know, a d A say, you know, we're going to indict him anyway. Like no one wants to get into a shooting, man. Trust me. Like, you know, obviously you get a couple crazies out there that do want to do it. But 99 of cops never want to get into shooting. So when they're shooting that gun, trust me, they probably ran out of options. And the other thing too is like when it comes to use of force and people need to understand this, you're never operating on 2020 hindsight. You're operating at what, what did, what was known to you at the time when you took the, the, the shot. So if you see someone and they pull out what looks like a gun, it could be a toy gun. It doesn't matter. If you know it was a toy gun and you didn't know that at the time and you shot him, that's a, that's going to be a clean shoe. But a lot of people I've noticed like don't understand use of force and, and how it operates in self defense law.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, let's say shoot him in the leg.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, stupid like that.

[Shane Smith]

That one's craz.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Well, this is also why body cam footage like destroyed BLM have a bit about it actually seeing what was happening.

[Shane Smith]

I literally have a bit about how the police squad, like the channel, the police video channel, everyone's like, we gotta start shooting more people. Yeah. In the world.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, dude, like watch that Channel. It'll red pill you on so many people.

[Shane Smith]

Like, it'll red pill you.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, you're like, oh, wow. Like, this is what cops deal with. Because like, you see, you just see them shoot a lot of times, but when you look at the body cam and you see from the beginning to.

[Shane Smith]

End, the I. I red pilled my in laws, like in my. My other side of my brother's fan. Yeah, yeah, dude. You just show them the videos and.

[Myron Gaines]

They'Re like, I'll give you the perfect example. Remember like a, like a month ago, some guy took a tik tok where the cop was smashing his window and. And pulled him out. Yeah. Well, if you look at the police vid, the police activity channel, what he did, what he did was the guy walked up, asked him several times, step out the car. He wouldn't get out. And he closed the door and the, the windows weren't t. He can't see inside. Right. So he told him a million times, hey, get out, get out, get out. He didn't. That's when he turned his video on and you see him smashing. But this is the important thing because it's like people never see the full context of this stuff.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Is that the one where the woman was in the car screaming, that a.

[Myron Gaines]

Not that one.

[Seamus Coughlin]

I saw another one where there's like a woman screaming, they have a baby. And it seems horrible, but then you read the article and it's like they tried arresting this guy and he got into a police chase with a baby in the car in blue, red lights.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coughlin]

And then refusing there. So he just endangered this baby's life several times. But they start recording as soon as the police try to do something to stop him. It's pure proposal propaganda, dude. Yeah, and this is like the left, anytime anyone commits any. Like some kid can hit an old lady in the head with a brick and it's like, well, what were the socioeconomic factors that mean? But then a cop shoots someone who was trying to stab him and they're like, he just did that for no reason. Yeah, he did that because he's racist.

[Myron Gaines]

Ridiculous.

[Shane Smith]

Dude, let's get super chats real quick. Free mind by free. Trump a week or two ago, sent a lot of aircraft and tankers to Europe and Middle East. Now this peace plan, I feel disputed deception coming that will be big. This person says, tattoos on face, insanely ignorant, knows nothing about Middle East. Send this guy to live in Pakistan for a year, see how he feels then. Hey, brother, I lived in the Middle east for a while. So I be knowing. Let's see what else we got here. Marcus M. Seamus should hide a spoon in the background of each episode of his cartoon. Would make for a good Easter egg for those in the know. Thank you, Marcus.

[Seamus Coughlin]

If you guys. If you contribute to the crowdfunding campaign at Twisted Plots for a full length animated show, you can make all those suggestions that you want.

[Shane Smith]

Let's go. Code monkey. Shane, your testimony is why my wife and I joined the Catholic church. It's here.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Oh, God bless you.

[Myron Gaines]

Let's go.

[Shane Smith]

Okay. Million dollar. Oh, never mind. Impact for eternity. It should never be considered anti blank to point out the truth about what they've done and continue doing to describe destroy America. Oh, and it's national security. The truth is the truth, despite our feelings. Just deport the dual citizen blanks in our government. Yeah, dude, I don't know who you're talking about, but it sounds like we got to do something about it.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's crazy that you can hold dual citizenship.

[Shane Smith]

It is. It's insane country. Yeah, you shouldn't be able to do that. You got to give one up. VB Million dollar idea. We can start a site for the lefty called called Manif Esto Builder. Then the FBI can just raid the customers. You're describing blue sky.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, this is blue sky stuff.

[Brett Dasovic]

It's pretty much just manifestos.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, dude, it's pretty unhinged. Let's see what else. Robert Cola, Navy vet here. One of my sailors was injured in a motorcycle crash. If anyone can help, the family has set up a GoFundMe. Roy's motorcycle accident over on GoFundMe that. Thank you. Oh, man. I hope your sailor is all right. Dr. Dr. Seamus. Looks more like a Persian rug salesman than an Irish Catholic spoon thief, to be honest.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Dude. Depending what the lighting is here. People have told me I look too, pal. People have told me I look blue. I mean, I'm all colors of the rainbow over here.

[Shane Smith]

You got a little avatar skin thing going on.

[Seamus Coughlin]

That's right.

[Brett Dasovic]

The lighting in here is crazy. People like, why don't you wear your glasses on the show? I'm like, bro, I get a migraine if I leave my glasses on with the lights in here.

[Shane Smith]

Lilamy Briggs. Lil Man, I don't know. I probably did it wrong. I'm sorry, girl. As a female veteran, I wholeheartedly agree that women should never be in a combat role. As a mother of a male service member, I don't want his life threatened by trying to protect a female service member. And here's the thing I've. I've never met a woman who is serving or who served and got out. That is like, yeah, women should do.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

Every single one of them was like, I'm a maniac for doing that.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

I didn't even go to combat. That was insane. Why was I in that situation? And, like, there's a lot of hard charging, badass chicks, for sure, but, like, no, not in combat.

[Seamus Coughlin]

A lot of these things, like, war, like, war is a punishment from God. I don't know. And it's. It's again, generally men who are sent to fight it. I don't know why you'd want to sign up for a man's punishment. Like, women get plenty of other punishments of their own. I don't know why you're trying to have both.

[Shane Smith]

They also don't real. Like, you're also. As a man who has been in the military, I don't want to go to war war because there are freaks who like it. Yeah, I don't like that. Like, it's hard, it's wet, it's cold, it's hot, it's dry. It's every bad thing it is all at once. It's the worst thing you could ever do. It's the most boring, scary thing you could ever do in your life. It's both those things at once. It's crazy. And there are dudes who live for that. They. They eat that for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They are about it, and they are coming, coming for you. And it's like, I don't want to be in that situation as a six foot one man, let alone as like a five foot four girl. Now I want Rambo coming after.

[Myron Gaines]

The reality is what I've noticed is, like, with women, like, they don't want to do these things. They just want to be able to do them right. Yeah, they want. That's really what it comes down to. They don't even vote or do any of this crap. They just want to be able to say that they can.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, well, we should just tell them.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, that's why I'm getting this kitchen. You vote there.

[Shane Smith]

All right. Um, from Huddy Daddy.

[Myron Gaines]

Of course.

[Shane Smith]

This one. Yo, Myron. Lord Geotron called your show back in March, and I say that name right? Geotron, I knew there was a reason I was so thankful to you and Fresh for promoting conservative values. Salute, brother.

[Myron Gaines]

Appreciate that, man.

[Shane Smith]

Yo, dude, look at all the positivity. This is great.

[Myron Gaines]

I used to haters, too.

[Shane Smith]

For those of you who don't know I used to have a show where I was doing leftist politics and it was pretty popular and people were like evil. Like our live chats would be mean. Like people wouldn't be nice. Like it's like so funny to be in here and there are people, you know, there's people saying funny, mean stuff or whatever. But there's a lot of like really genuinely nice messages in here. I'm like, wow, how much more pleasant are these people?

[Brett Dasovic]

When you were on Culture War and Mary came back and she was like, oh, I was talking to Shane and like she told me like who you were and I'm like, didn't that cuz. Cuz you skate? I was like, didn't he do. Used to be like a communist comedian?

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah, Full on member of the National Rifle Socialist Rifle association and the whole deal. Yeah, yeah. Jesus fixed me. So that's pretty cool.

[Myron Gaines]

Is that what like made you religion? Is what like red pilled you in.

[Shane Smith]

On like once, once I realized that God was real, then it was like, oh man, what else am I wrong about? And then I started, started to like sort of dive in and really, really go in on it instead of doing the like. Well, all the hot girls and all my friends say it's nice to let people do whatever they want. So I should let people do whatever they want or I'm evil.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

And then you realize, no, being evil is letting people do whatever they want.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

It's not hurting you.

[Brett Dasovic]

Why do you care?

[Shane Smith]

Fungus among us. Is Shane Smith still a fan of Antifa and does he still reject that it's an organization? I kind of miss his comedy. Well, I tour all the time, so you can just come see me. I still do comedy. I actually just filmed a special. I do not support Antifa. I used to say that they're. Because they are like, they do that thing that people do where it's an amorphous organization with no top down. Yeah, exactly. And so when you have no leadership, it, it just kind of is a concept. But that concept is bad.

[Myron Gaines]

Well, that also protects them from prosecution too.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brett Dasovic]

You're like, okay, yeah, but you can buy merch. It's if, if I can buy merch, it's an organization. I'm sorry. Yeah, they have a logo.

[Myron Gaines]

Hi.

[Shane Smith]

Let's see this person o o KE so OC or I don't know, I can't read it on my glasses. Hey Shane, I just saw your stand up live in Atlanta. Amazing set. Everyone go check out Shane special. This just feels like I'm an Asshole for reading this. Best material I've seen all year. As a huge spokesperson for Australia, Tim, cast, crew, go see one battle after another. You'll hate it.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean, Paul Thomas Anderson is also.

[Shane Smith]

Just dude, Gadget ratchet. I do not mean to be that guy, but raised by a single mother, never been to jail, would be considered an average Joe who's about to start a business. However, Myron is correct. Well, most, most average Joe's these days were raised by single moms and are normal. So I mean, that's not, that's not necessarily the problem. But if one out of every ten kids from a broken home ends up bad and you, you make 50 million more broken homes in a generation than before, what's the math on that? You just added millions of broken young men to society despite the fact that a hundred million worked out. So you can't have that. That is bad. Families are important. Do not get divorced. No matter what happens or is bad. Divorce is bad. If you're going to get married, go the whole way. If you're not going to get married, married, don't. Yeah, it's that easy. But this one right here, if you want to. Let's see. Cuddigan, if you want to talk immigration fraud. USCIS reviewed immigration cases in Minneapolis where a certain community is Somalians and immediately said 44% were fraudulent.

[Myron Gaines]

Yep. Yo, I'm telling you, dude, we are getting destroyed in immigration. Is that the ways.

[Shane Smith]

Is that the culture? A prayer place? Yes.

[Brett Dasovic]

I mean that's part.

[Myron Gaines]

But Michigan is both. They play. They play in Minneapolis and they play that then five times in Minneapolis and in Dearborn.

[Shane Smith]

Okay. I thought that they were adding spots.

[Myron Gaines]

Which is nuts by the way. I know a lot of Muslims get mad at me for saying that, but.

[Jeff Bridges]

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[Dana]

Jeff Bridges, why are you still living above our garage?

[Jeff Bridges]

Well, I dig the mattress and I want to be in a T mobile commercial like you. Teach me. Soldana.

[Dana]

Oh, no, I'm not really prepared. I couldn't possibly. AT T Mobile. We'll get the new iPhone 17 Pro on them. It's designed to be the most powerful iPhone yet and has the ultimate pro camera system.

[Jeff Bridges]

Wow, impressive. Let me try. T mobile is the best place to get iPhone 17 Pro because they've got the best network.

[Brett Dasovic]

Nice.

[Dana]

Jeffrey, you heard them.

[Myron Gaines]

T Mobile is the best place to get the new iPhone iPhone 17 Pro on us with eligible traded in any condition.

[Jeff Bridges]

So what are we having for launch?

[Dana]

Dude, my work here is done with.

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[Myron Gaines]

I don't think major cities should be playing that then five times a day. Yeah, yeah, I don't think that's.

[Shane Smith]

I think we got all those. Okay, this. Let's see which one have we not read?

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, it's hard. I'm looking through all this trying to. Trying to find ones that are appropriate guys.

[Brett Dasovic]

The rest are all just like calling us slurs and people will pay like.

[Shane Smith]

$2 to say the wildest stuff. Dude, do you. What do you do for a living? You don't care about that $2. Am I like weird? Albert Fish was the worst serial killer in history. He killed and ate over 100 children. That guy was a real jerk.

[Brett Dasovic]

I don't Russian guy. I Russian he.

[Shane Smith]

No, I think Albert Fish is the wizard, is the werewolf of Wisteria or whatever. I don't think he killed 100 kids. I do know that he put needles in his grundle and when they arrested him they were like why do you have a bunch of needles in your gooch? And he's like, because I like it. And that's pretty weird.

[Brett Dasovic]

This is like where you go like when you get like black pilled on politics as I just start like rewatching things about domestic terrorism and serial killers and I'm like Ah, the 90s.

[Myron Gaines]

Yeah, yeah, Timothy McVeigh and all that.

[Shane Smith]

Dude, just start saying. Okay, well, hold on. Linux charms. Shane, so surprised to see you on Tim cast for the second time. Actually followed your comedy for years and reach recent spiritual journey. You're awesome. Keep it going. Thank you. Just start saying expensive Palestine so the juice box country won't want it anymore. Okay, all right. Well, I guess I don't. I don't get to work at at freaking Turning Point anymore, you guys. I've read too many of these. Now I'm all for different opinions, but what with the lack of pushback, it's sounding like Hamas cast or with the host giving such an impassionate opinion that admits he's not educated on the subject. What do you like?

[Myron Gaines]

What.

[Shane Smith]

What do you want from me as far as education? I'm not a college Educated person, but.

[Myron Gaines]

I think it's Hamas cast. Yeah, that you could tell. That's probably like, some Zionists. Like, if you're critical of Israel, they immediately say, that's such, like, a low IQ argument.

[Shane Smith]

Hey, I'm actually pro nobody. The Vatican should control Israel, so that's where I'm at.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Claim the Holy Land that I'm on board with.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, dude.

[Myron Gaines]

They hate you guys because you guys got their manures and stuff, right?

[Shane Smith]

Dude, yeah. Hey, listen, about that one. Emperor Titus refused a wreath because there's no honor in defeating a people who have been abandoned by their God. So the Roman who defeated. Defeated Israel and destroyed their last temple, he didn't receive his wreath, which is the. That his triumph.

[Myron Gaines]

The most.

[Shane Smith]

The most important military accolade of world history. He refused to accept it.

[Myron Gaines]

Like, their beef is with you guys.

[Tim]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Wait, like, is like B.S. like, that's been since, like, the 1900s.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

The real beef is with the Catholic Church.

[Shane Smith]

Yeah, for sure. A panel of absolute legends today. Thank you, hyena73. Did I read this already? Love you all. Even Seamus, despite the cutlery kleptomania. Brett, please end by saying left lane is for crime.

[Brett Dasovic]

I can do that. For Filter Night. I can do that.

[Shane Smith]

You stole cutlery? What is happening?

[Seamus Coughlin]

It's just an ugly false accusation. Tim came up with that. I stole spoons from him. But you guys know me. You know I would never do that. You know I would never do something. You know me. I know. It's insane. It's insane. I was, like, crashing. I was doing the podcast for a while, and I was crashing, and at his place, they had, like, a separate little room in the basement. And he's like. Yeah. He started making all these. He's like, there's an Irishman who lives under my house and steals my spoons. It's like, what do you sound insane? You sound like a crazy person. So you guys know me. You know, I wouldn't do. You know I would never do that.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Shane Smith]

All right, everyone. Thank you for joining us so much. Smash that sub button. Smash that, like, button.

[Myron Gaines]

Join the membership group, because we're gonna get into raw stuff, right?

[Shane Smith]

We're about to go raw.

[Myron Gaines]

Now I can, like, say the things I really, really want to say.

[Shane Smith]

Dude, it's time, you guys better.

[Myron Gaines]

I've been holding it in for two hours.

[Shane Smith]

It's time to get wild.

[Myron Gaines]

You guys need to join Tim's membership program.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah.

[Myron Gaines]

Is there a link? Can we put it.

[Unknown Female Host]

Yeah, if you join the link.

[Shane Smith]

If you listen, if you come, if you click the link, come watch the private show. Myron's gonna do blackface. It's gonna be crazy.

[Myron Gaines]

I am going to do a lot of things. Okay? We're gonna talk about the mustache man and some other things. So come on over, guys. You guys know what time it is.

[Shane Smith]

Thank you everybody. Thanks for hanging out, coming out with us some more and if not, have a great night.

[Unknown Female Host]

Well, we're going to say we. Oh yeah, we got everyone else, everybody.

[Seamus Coughlin]

Thank you guys so much for, for watching and thank you guys so, so much for getting our campaign to one third funded in the first two days. That's incredible. We're at 34.7 right now. If you guys go over to Twisted Plots, please help get us over to 35% to solidify our strong start. You'll get access to the 25 minute long pilot. We want to shape culture. Like everyone here is saying, the mainstream media, media is dead. Now people on our side of the aisle have the opportunity to reclaim that space not by making stuff that's preachy and not by making stuff that puts the message over the comedy by but by making good entertaining content where a conservative message is delivered through story and through jokes. So please go over to twistedplots.com Become a Supporter. You'll get access to a lot of perks and early access to the pilot if you donate at the $25 level. And you'll be helping us make history. Thank you so much and God bless.

[Brett Dasovic]

If you guys want to follow me, I am on Instagram and X Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms. PCC is live five days a week, Monday through Friday, 3pm Eastern Standard Time, which is of course noon Pacific. And like Phil always says, the left lane is for crime.

[Myron Gaines]

Check me out, guys. Myron Gaines X on YouTube Rumble Kick. I stream everywhere Monday through Friday starting 7pm Eastern Eastern Standard time. It's called the debrief. And then we do Pressure fit Monday, Wednesday, Friday where you guys know money Monday, Womanizer Wednesdays calling shows. We also do the after hour show where we talk to women and I lose more hair follicles. So check me out there guys. Fresher fit everywhere. And then Myron Gaines X everywhere. YouTube, Rumble Kick, all the main platforms. You guys know Rumble's home base and check me out on OSS. That's my community 5,000 plus you guys in there. So yes, sick.

[Shane Smith]

Thank you everyone. I am Shane Smith. You could go to my website, Shane Smithcomed and watch me do comedy live somewhere. Detroit, Phoenix New York, Florida, San Diego. I don't know where else I'm going. All those places this year. Thank you so much for hanging out on Tim Cast irl. We really did it tonight, boys. I feel good about it. Have a great night. Take care of yourselves. Christ is king.