Trump Calls Putin During Zelenskyy White House Visit, European Leaders Praise Trump w/ Zeek Arkham

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – Trump Calls Putin During Zelenskyy White House Visit, European Leaders Praise Trump w/ Zeek Arkham

Date: August 19, 2025
Host: Timcast Media (Phil Labonte standing in for Tim Pool)
Guests: Zeek Arkham, Remy Stanley Jr., Chris Carr, Shane Cashman

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Overview

This episode of Timcast IRL dives into breaking news about former President Donald Trump’s efforts to broker a meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, analyzes U.S. and European responses, and offers critical discussion on media rebranding, electoral integrity, and current political strategies ahead of the 2026 midterms. The panel, joined by Zeek Arkham and other recurring contributors, debates the implications of Trump’s peace initiative, Europe’s shifting posture, the rebranding of MSNBC, domestic election policies, and the political landscape for both parties.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Trump’s Overture for Russia-Ukraine Peace (05:53–21:19)

• Main Story: Trump meets with Putin in Alaska and then calls Putin after meeting Zelenskyy and several European leaders at the White House, announcing a planned meeting between Putin and Zelenskyy, plus a trilateral meeting to follow. Trump is seeking security guarantees for Ukraine backed by European powers and the U.S.
• Panel’s Take:
  • Zeek Arkham (08:28): Welcomes Trump’s “doing something,” contrasting with Biden’s approach:
    “If Trump can actually make this happen, there’s nothing the left can say about him anymore... At least he got in there and gave it a try.”
  • Cautious Optimism and Skepticism:
    • Panel doubts Putin’s willingness to negotiate peace, pointing out Russian preferences for attrition warfare and that Putin “holds all the cards” (10:00).
    • Debates whether NATO-style guarantees without Ukraine joining NATO could pressure Zelenskyy into making concessions, but doubts over Ukraine relinquishing territory persist.

2. Geopolitical Ripple Effects – Taiwan and China (18:13–21:41)

• China Watching Ukraine Closely:
  • Panel links U.S.-EU handling of Ukraine to Chinese calculations on Taiwan. Pending U.S. plans to nationalize chip-making (Intel) interpreted as prepping for possible conflict over Taiwan.
  • Zeek Arkham: “It’s the world’s worst kept secret, so you gotta plan for it.” (19:02)

3. MSNBC’s Rebranding to 'Ms. Now' (24:59–35:39)

• New Corporate Structure:
  • MSNBC will become 'Ms. Now' as part of a Comcast spinoff. The panel universally agrees this is a superficial change.
  • Chris Carr (28:29):
    “It’s really pathetic and it’s not going to impact their ratings at all, especially not positively.”
• On Mainstream/Progressive Media:
  • Criticism that both NBC and MSNBC are ideologically aligned, offering little real diversity—just “a fresh coat of paint” (29:47, Zeke Arkham).
  • Long discussion about media bias, echo chambers, critical race theory, and the inability of progressive media or its audience to self-critique or change course (34:15).

4. Election Reform and Mail-in Ballots (47:57–83:23)

• Trump's Executive Order Bid:
  • Trump proposes ending mail-in ballots and voting machines before 2026 midterms—panel debates constitutionality, impact, and necessity.
  • Zeek Arkham (47:36): Remembers “elections were figured out on the night of election night,” questioning the drift toward protracted counts.
• Potential Redistricting Battles:
  • Fight brewing over gerrymandering; panel asserts Republicans have more to gain if a redistricting war erupts.
• Mail-in and Absentee Voting:
  • Panel agrees on limiting absentee ballots to overseas military and immobile elderly, expressing suspicion about the integrity of mail-in voting (49:36–50:29).

5. Illegal Immigration & Public Safety – Trucker Incident (87:28–101:14)

• Case Highlighted:
  • California granted a Commercial Driver's License (CDL) to a man who entered illegally; an illegal U-turn caused a fatal crash in Florida.
• Policy Critique:
  • Remy Stanley Jr.: Rails against progressive state policies and the consequences of licensing noncitizens (89:56).
  • Calls for harsh penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants, including potential forfeiture of property (94:45), with attempts at balancing constitutional and practical enforcement concerns (97:39).
• Zeek Arkham: Warns that blue states will fiercely protect their “lifeblood”—the illegal population needed for census counts and power (96:26, 98:42).

6. Democratic 2028 Primary Speculation: Newsom, AOC, and Party Identity (53:06–75:53)

• Who Could Take the Nomination?
  • Debate over whether Gavin Newsom’s “charm” and political animal instincts could make him the nominee over AOC or others. General agreement that Newsom is far more credible—if not authentic—than other likely prospects (56:03–61:44).
  • Chris Carr (56:58):
    “He looks like American Psycho to me... there’s no amount of rebranding he can do that will ever make me forget what he did during COVID.”
  • Political rebranding, American voter amnesia, and why Newsom is a threat—even if many conservatives underestimate him.
  • Zeek Arkham (60:14):
    “American voters have a very short memory... He comes across as a normal, level-headed guy.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Zeek Arkham, on Trump’s Mediation Efforts (08:28):
  “At least he got in there and gave it a try. And if it fails, at least he can’t say, well, I sat on my hands for the past four years and did nothing.”
• Shane Cashman, on Political Rebranding (70:24):
  “He’s a chameleon... a vessel for whatever policy he thinks will get him the most political capital—which, that’s why he’s dangerous.”
• Chris Carr (65:40):
  “He [Newsom] loves that stuff. He loves to be in that swamp and in the muck, and he’s really good at it... He’s a brilliant Bundy.”
• Phil Labonte warning conservatives (74:46):
  “...it will be an absolute nightmare. All the things you see in the UK, that will come here... They will be coming after you if you speak up.”
• Zeek Arkham on election security (82:11):
  “It’s very telling that Democrats really don’t care about securing our elections. They know the weaker the election laws, the stronger they are.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Trump-Putin-Zelenskyy Mediation News: 05:53–21:19
• China-Taiwan Strategic Considerations: 18:13–21:41
• MSNBC Name Change & Media Analysis: 24:59–35:39
• Debate Over Leftist Media/Ideology: 34:15–44:00
• Election Law, Mail-in Ballots, Redistricting: 47:57–83:23
• Illegal Immigration/Trucker Tragedy: 87:28–101:14
• Democrat 2028 Primary & Gavin Newsom: 53:06–75:53
• Panel’s Warnings and Closing Remarks: 74:46–78:07

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Overall Tone and Style

The conversation is fast-paced, caustic, and distinctly irreverent—combining gallows humor, sarcastic digs, and detailed policy criticism typical of Timcast IRL. Guests blend personal anecdotes with broad political analysis, often using hyperbole (referring to Newsom as a “psychopath” or “lizard”) to underscore concern for the U.S. political direction. The mood oscillates between deadpan humor and urgent warnings (“our check engine light is on,” “if you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”).

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Conclusion

The episode is a deep-dive into the shifting contours of global and domestic politics as the U.S. moves toward the 2026 midterms and looks beyond. Key themes are suspicion about elite institutions, pessimism about progressive media reform, deep skepticism of electoral security, and concern about underestimated Democratic rivals like Gavin Newsom. Above all, there’s a recurrent refrain to keep conservative voters alert: don’t get complacent, the stakes remain high.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

What's up? What's up? Thanks for having me again, man. This is a great opportunity. Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to. If you invite me back here one more time, I'm gonna have my own coffee brand up there. The sexual dark chocolate roast up there. So I'm looking up, I'm looking forward to it.

[A]

I think that's a good enough reason to invite him back alone.

[C]

Definite.

[A]

Never mind his. His le experience and all that stuff, just to get another. Another kind of coffee. Thank you so much for joining us. Raymond is here.

[D]

Hey, guys. What's up? Remy Stanley Jr. Your resident Blue collar devil dog. I'm looking forward to some especially dark chocolate coffee because I like the mocha, bro. The mocha is good stuff, you know what I mean? But I'm happy to be here today.

[A]

Chris Carr is here.

[E]

What's up, everybody? I'm Chris Carr. I'm a writer, editor, and journalist. I think you pitched that the last time you were here to Tim.

[B]

Did I?

[E]

I think you did.

[B]

I might have, you know, hey, listen.

[E]

I don't know why it didn't catch on because it's such a brilliant idea.

[B]

My face on it, you know. Show me doing the double points. I'll do it.

[A]

I love it.

[E]

It's great.

[A]

Chris, when was the last time you were on?

[E]

About eight or nine months ago with Natalie Winters. It's been a while.

[A]

Hanging out more.

[E]

I know it's been a while.

[A]

It's good.

[E]

Thanks, man.

[D]

Shane is here.

[C]

Well, it's good to be on with all you guys. Good to be here. I am Shane Cashman, host of Inverter World Live. I'll be running out of here around 9:40 tonight to go live at 10 o' clock on YouTube and rumble at Inverter World. We will talk about Elon's latest baby mama. That's a pregnant robot in China. And it's all, it's all the rage right now. And we're going to talk about zombie squirrels and some updates on dogs that have been finding human bones with a, with an owner who got deported by ice. It's a big crazy story. So we'll see you there.

[E]

Just real quick, if you're not turning into Inverted World live, like, what are you doing with yourself?

[B]

Zombie squirrels by itself?

[C]

Yeah. Last week we had zombie rabbits in Colorado. Now we have zombie squirrels.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

We're in for it, Dud.

[D]

Is this AI getting millions of dollars per month from Elon for the baby?

[C]

Oh, maybe, yeah.

[A]

I mean, one of the best things about Inverted World is they let just like anyone call in. So it's not like they're like you have to be a member or anything. Like, they're just like, they let me host Anything Goes. That's a, that's a very wise move. But the stories that you get from some people, man, some people come calling, they just want to hear themselves talk. But some of the, some of the stories you get, man.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I should say that too. We're calling show you can call in, phone lines are open. You had a weird experience. You give us a call and it's amazing. Awesome, Phil.

[A]

All right, so from the post, Millennial breaking. Trump working to set up a meeting between Putin Zelinsky after a call with Russian president. So everyone knows that or most people know that Donald Trump and President Putin met in Alaska this past weekend. I think it was Friday, right? Friday or Saturday? Friday. So they met and things were fairly uneventful. There's a lot of people that are critical because Donald Trump didn't, you know, arm bar Putin and tell him get out of Ukraine. You meanie or whatever. It was never actually an option. You're not going to get a situation, you're not going to get a peace situation in Ukraine without involving the Ukrainian present. So this is actually a great development. So from the post Millennial. Following an afternoon of meeting with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky and other European leaders, President Donald Trump announced that he has called Russian President Vladimir Putin to begin scheduling a meeting between Putin and Zelensky. This comes as Trump has been seeking a path peace between the two nations. I had a very good meeting with distinguished guests, President Vladimir Zelinsky says of Ukraine, President Emmanuel Macron of France, President Alexander Stubb of Finland, Prime Minister Giorgio Maloney of Italy, Prime Minister Keir Starmer of the United Kingdom, Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany Friedrich Mears, President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyden and Secretary General of NATO Mark Rut in the White House, which ended in a further meeting in the Oval Office. Trump wrote on Truth Social. During the meeting, we discussed security guarantees for Ukraine, which guarantees would be provided by the various European countries with a coordination with the United States of America. Everyone is very happy about the possibility of peace for Russia, Ukraine. At the conclusion of the meetings, I called President Putin and began the arrangements for a meeting at a location to be determined between the President Putin and President Zelinsky. After that meeting takes place, we will have a try lot which would be two presidents plus myself. Again, this is a very good early step for a war that has been going on for almost four, four years. Vice President J.D. vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Special Envoy Steve Witkoff are coordinating with Russia and Ukraine. Thank you for your attention to this matter. That's my favorite Trumpism of the second term. I didn't, I don't think that he said thank you for attention to this matter during the first, the first Trump administration. And I think this is definitely an upgrade. But what do you guys think? Do you think that, do you think that this is actually going to produce something, or do you think that Putin is just stringing them along? Because honestly, I don't see how Putin is in a position where he has to do anything, right? Like he's, he's kind of holding all the cards, in my opinion. So what do you, what do you think, Zeke?

[B]

I think it's a great first step, but I mean, Trump is at least doing something. You know, it's not like, it's not like, you know, before Biden, you know, Biden just seemed confused the entire time. Biden just seemed like, he just wanted the war to go on. He was going to throw more money at it and throw more money at Zelensky. And Zelensky was going to, you know, just be like, you know, hey, Grandpa, can I have a dollar so I can go down and get some ice cream? And Biden's like, hey, go ahead, take. You know, starts talking about, like, bears and his uncle being eaten by cannibals, you know, so at least Trump is out there actually trying to broker peace, and it's way more than we've gotten over the past four years. And if Trump can actually make this happen, there's nothing the left can say about him anymore. You know, they can't say, you know, he came in there and he's this warmonger president and look at what he's doing. And he's. They can't say anything about anymore now because Trump took this awful mess that's been going on in Russia and Ukraine for the past four years and did something about it. So he's actually doing something, whether it comes to fruition or not, whether it comes to peace or not. At least he got in there and gave it a try. And if it fails, at least he can't say, well, I sat on my hands for the past four years and did nothing.

[C]

You know, it's serious. When Zelensky put on a suit, yeah.

[D]

He looked kind of good, too. He did like black chocolate.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He even got a joke in and he made the journalist laugh.

[E]

Oh, he did?

[C]

Yeah. The journalist who criticized him for not wearing a suit last time said he looked good this time. And then Zelensky said, you were in the same suit. And I was like, oh, that's not bad. I don't like Zelensky, but I was like, not bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Gotta laugh.

[D]

Putin does have all the cards. They have the strongest army over in that area. We don't want to get involved, and we're not going to try to get involved. So it's either they can. They have all the cards. Like we were telling last time, Trump told Zelensky, we have the cards, or he doesn't have the cards, which he doesn't have the cards, and we don't even have the cards anymore. As the United States of America, Putin and Russians have all the cards. And he's willing to grind out 20,000 people a month, 20,000 deaths. He's just willing to grind and put his people through the grinder to keep doing he wants to do, and he'll keep doing it until they say to Putin, Or Zelensky says, no, you know, I'm done killing my people because he's going to run out of people sooner or later. And if he doesn't run out of people, I mean, when he does run out of people, the Europeans aren't going to go inside. They're not going to help out. It's going to have to be America, and we will not. I don't think we're going to let Trump will do that. We'll put US Boots on the ground. I don't, I don't see it happening.

[A]

Chris, they were talking about the possibility of Article 5, like, guarantees. Now they're, they're not going to have Ukraine join the, join NATO. And I think that's a smart move. I can't happen. That's good for the whole world. Yeah. And yeah, you're right. I don't think that it, like the rules of NATO actually prevent it because there is an ongoing conflict. But if they can, if they, if the Europeans and the United States offer protections that are Article 5 like, which means if Putin makes any more advances into Ukraine, that would mobilize a lot of NATO countries, do you think that that is compelling enough to get Zelensky to try to convince the Ukrainians that they need to make a. Make concessions? Now, I know that Ukraine has a stipulation in their constitution that they won't give up any more territory, but I'm not sure how important that is or how real that is, considering they gave up Crimea. Now, I don't know when that stipulation was put into their constitution. I don't know if it was prior to the invasion of Crimea or not. But do you think that that's enough of a guarantee to get Zelensky to move?

[E]

It should be, but I'm not certain that it will be because, I mean, for years now, Zelenskyy's basically been having a hostage negotiation with reality, and he's not, I think that he's unhinged enough and demented enough to not understand that he has to take this deal. What happens?

[A]

Do you think he's just trying to save his own neck? Because there's a lot of people that think that if Putin does actually win, that Zelensky is a dead man.

[B]

Well, yeah.

[E]

What are his own people going to do to him? Like, he's looking at a really bad situation when this is over, when it's finally over. Like, I don't know, he needs to get to an island somewhere, he'll come here. You think so?

[C]

Yeah, he'll probably get like, yeah, yeah, he'll be a. Yeah, he'll be a politician. No, he'll get like a CAA deal like Biden did after office, you know, Florida. He'll be a comedian. He'll be our next Ben Stiller. Yes.

[A]

Oh, God.

[C]

Kind of serious on the keyboard and being kind of serious, actually.

[E]

I mean, yeah, I could see that happening, actually.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, to look, if it were a situation where the United States government has to pay for him or he gets a late night gig. Give him late night gig. I don't have to turn it.

[C]

Yeah, Colbert, he could take over Colbert.

[A]

Yeah, that would be great. So the, the Post millennial went on addressing reporters after Zelensky arrived at the White House on Monday afternoon. Trump said that he was going to have a phone call with Putin right after these meetings today. Trump met with Putin in Anchorage, Alaska on Friday, where Trump said the two leaders agreed on many things but not on others. Now, there was some stuff that I saw on X that when this was going on, Putin was making another push and there were some, some offensives going on in Ukraine at the, at the very same time that these meetings were happening. Happening. It's my sense that Putin doesn't actually want to play ball. And I don't know, I don't think that he has any reason to. Like, the Russians don't look at losses the way that Western countries do. Right. Like, they take a lot of pride in how many people died fighting the Nazis. Like, that's, they use that as a, as you know, this is why Russia actually was the winners, because we died a lot. And I think that's kind of crazy, personally. You're the winners when the other guys die a lot. But they consistently say, well, look, you know, they, we were willing to, to put our butts on the line. And so many Russians died fighting the Nazis.

[D]

Very nationalist. Pardon me, Very nationalist, which is, well.

[A]

Nationalist, but also like, very, they don't, they don't value human life the way that we do in the West. Right. Like Americans. Like, as much as we, you know, valorize people that are willing to lay down their lives for others and, and for the cause and stuff, we, we don't think it's good when people die and it seems like Russia kind of does. So if that's, if that is the kind of the case in Russia, what's the motivation to not keep sending dudes into the meat grinder because they're going to have more people than the Ukrainians.

[D]

You know, and they're an all out military, industrial right now. Like, it's all war centered, the whole economies.

[A]

I don't think they've activated their entire military capability. No.

[D]

But what I'm hearing from a lot of reports from news folks is like, they're doing a lot of making munitions.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

And they're like, it's war economy.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

So they're in it to win it and they'll keep grinding out people and they're going to keep grinding out rockets. To answer your question, 2016 is when Crimea, or it's when Ukraine said they're going to stop giving their lands after the last.

[A]

Okay, so it is Post Crimea.

[D]

Yes. Two years after June 28, 1996. And they're like, okay, we lost Crimea, so we're going to try not to lose anything else. Little did they know, Biden took presidency and they're going to lose more.

[A]

Yeah, I think, Yeah. I don't see, I don't see, I don't see them, you know, giving back any of the, the territory that they've taken. And I don't see any reason why they, I mean, not that I'm, I'm pro Russia, but I don't see any reason why they should. There has to be some kind of, when you're dealing with, with, you know, international anarchy, which is what you've got with, with the way that most countries deal with each other, especially when it comes to a war, there's not a whole lot of reason, there's not a whole lot of reason for Russia to do it.

[B]

I think they're both in a position where they don't want to be the one that blinks. Like, you know, Ukraine has invested so much and they've gotten so much back in return. And Zelinsky now is, is like this international figure, so he can't back down because then it makes it look like, you know, he's, he's punking out a little bit. And of course, Putin is like, you know, no, I'm not backing down for anything. We are Russia. I am Putin and we are going to see this through to the end. So I think for Trump, in order to make any real headway with this, he's going to have to make both sides think they've won somehow, which is a horrible, impossible task almost. But he's going to have to do it or else it's going to turn into a huge mess and it's going to become an even bigger mess than it was before.

[D]

How can you, how can you make a Ukraine feel like they won anything when they're going to probably end up losing their land, you know, maybe because they might win because they stop killing everyone and they might have some men left alive to build up their country that they've already lost. I mean, I don't mean to be Debbie Downer, but like, like, I think you agree that they're not going to get. There is a really small chance to get their land back.

[C]

They're definitely not getting it back to that point.

[A]

If the, if the Russians are allowed to stay in the areas that they've, they've occupied, they're going to build up. And even if they don't. Yeah, yeah, Russia is going to. Russia is going to build up their forces. And I think that, you know, Russia does have the desire to take all of Ukraine. I don't think that they have the desire to go into Poland. I don't think they're looking to take, take back, you know, Western or Eastern European countries. They might be looking to take back some of their former Soviet satellite countries, some of the, some of the countries that used to be Soviet republics, but some of those countries have joined NATO and I don't think that they're going to, they would actually move on those, on the NATO countries at least. But I do think they want to take back Ukraine. I think that it'll just end up being just a staging and it'll be, you know, they'll wait until there's another president that they think is ease can be pushed, a pushover the same way that either Obama or Biden was. And, and when they feel like they have the, the ability, I think that they'll just move on on the rest or another part of Ukraine or the rest of Ukraine, however you want to call it.

[B]

Well, remember, China is also watching this as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Seeing what they're going to do about Hong Kong. You know, they're kind of playing red light, green light right now, like, trying to see, like, how the United States and the rest of the world is going to react to the, you know, what's. What. I'm sorry, Taiwan. Excuse me, Taiwan. My fault. They're. They're looking at this and they're trying to figure out what they're going to do now. So, you know, the response from the rest of the world and the reaction from the rest of the world is going to really determine what China does with Taiwan.

[C]

It seems like we're anticipating that to happen because Trump announced a thing with intel.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Did you see that story the other day?

[A]

No.

[C]

Where they might nationalize intel to make chips here.

[A]

Oh, company. Yeah, Intel.

[C]

The company. Yes. Sorry. Because of, you know, they have, we get so many chips from Taiwan and if they are invaded, then there goes so many of our chips. So it seems like where our administration is expecting that.

[B]

Well, it's the, it's the worst kept secret. You know, China's looking at Taiwan and salivating and they're picking their spots. You know, oh, we're going to, we're going to occupy over there. We're going to do this. So I mean it's the world's worst kept secret, so you gotta plan for it.

[D]

We've already built, I've already built islands so they can stage up on.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So it's my sense that there's a different, you know, it's, it's a different situation with China and Taiwan because the U. S has a vested interest in Taiwan. The US doesn't actually have an interest in Ukraine. Right.

[C]

Like Hunter Biden did.

[A]

Well, I mean, but, and there were some bio labs. But, but that's not something. Even if they're, even if, even if the, the bio labs were like real and, and something that the US Was, was using, it wasn't obvious and it wasn't a big deal. It's something that the chips are a.

[C]

Big part of the economy because for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Without the chips that Taiwan produces, the military doesn't have the ability to function. I, I don't know exactly what the, what the amount was, but I, I heard a general talking about the number of magnets, rare earth magnets that are in an F35. It's like, like a boatload, like a lot of magnets and those they get from, I don't know if they get them from China or not. But the point I'm making is there's a, a lot of, a lot of reason for the US to actually try to defend Taiwan. Whereas you know, honestly what we're doing in Ukraine is just because the world kind of expects us to, because we're.

[C]

The, it's charity with our tax dollars.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's more, you had the Bidens who were heavily invested in Ukraine big time, so they were more looking out for their own interests and then sort of gaslighted the rest of the United States and said oh no, no, we have to protect them because look at Russia. You know, Russia are evil. But yeah, I agree what you're saying, Phil. You know, Taiwan is more of a, is of an interest of all Americans that we could all get involved in and say, hey listen, yeah, no, you can't, you can't invade them. That directly affects us rather than Ukraine, which was like, you know, Biden went, oh, hell no, we gotta, we gotta protect them, you know.

[A]

And to your point, Shane, like, I don't think that it's a good idea to nationalize a company.

[C]

Same.

[A]

But I do think that if the United States wants to say we're going to, you know, start a company or start a national, put a national effort, something like the Manhattan Project, to re. Industrialize at least the chips that we need for, you know, for, for national defense. Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

[C]

I'm opposed to nationalizing companies for sure. And intel is an inferior chip maker, but they like it because they make them here, you know.

[A]

Well, I mean, so would you be against the government, you know, working on a project that was similar to the Manhattan Project in order to produce chips and stuff here? That's jobs.

[C]

I don't trust them to do anything properly, so I trust them to do nothing.

[A]

Wait, so you, are you for that?

[C]

Would you be for that, against them nationalizing?

[A]

Yeah. But would you be okay with the government working with existing companies to do something like the Manhattan Project?

[C]

No, because I'm against it now because that's what Stargate is too with AI you know, it's all those companies putting in a lot of money, AI and Oracle to do something alongside the government. And I don't trust that as well as I think that's ushering in a.

[D]

Dystopia real quick on your rare earth magnets. China produces 90% of the world's supply. So China has.

[A]

Wow. How many, how many pounds of earth of magnets are in an F35?

[D]

Let me check that out. But probably.

[A]

Great question.

[D]

Boatload.

[C]

Oh, there's truckloads.

[D]

But also if Ukraine got became Russia tomorrow, we wouldn't infect us at all. But if Taiwan, Taiwan lost to China, it would affect us a lot.

[A]

Yeah. So we've got this breaking information here. Breaking news. There is a coal freighter that just exploded in Baltimore Harbor. From the post millennial flames were seen erupting from a ship in Baltimore harbor on Monday evening. Per WM WMAR2, the Baltimore County Fire Department confirmed an explosion occurred on a coal tanker near the site of the Francis Scott Key Bridge which still has not been rebuilt and that was collapsed in 2024. The Coast Guard is reportedly en route to expect inspect the scene. Yeah, so we got. I've got the video. Haven't watched yet, but I assume it will be. I guess it's graphic warning if you want to want to say so. But probably, I mean, it's graphic because yeah, it's just an explosion. Everyone died or anything. So from unsolved mysteries to unexplained phenomena, from comedy goal to relationship fails. Amazon Music's got the most ad free top podcasts included with prime. Because the only thing that should interrupt your listening is, well, nothing. Download the Amazon music app today. But yeah, it just happened like literally a minute ago right by the collapse. Like 8 o', clock, I think it was. Yeah. Sheesh.

[D]

Wait, are they going underneath the bridge or they like look like they're gonna run into.

[A]

Now they're going by it. Okay, going. Yeah, it looks like right between it at the same time, but again in.

[D]

Between where there's no more bridge.

[A]

The bridge still isn't fixed, by the way.

[D]

Good job, Baltimore, you guys.

[A]

Unreal.

[D]

They have. Nobody could read there. They got lots of money for school.

[A]

Burnt out Malibu still now, I mean, burnt out.

[C]

These Palestine's not looking so hot.

[D]

And Malibu too, from like four or five years ago.

[A]

Can't do anything. Camp Love, anything done.

[D]

The United States, North Carolina, don't forget about them.

[A]

It's a shame. It's a shame. Yeah.

[B]

I feel like in the United States right now, our check engine lights on. Oh, you've gotta like, it's been on for a while.

[A]

Yeah, Our check engines. Engine light is on and it's a woman that's actually in the driver's seat. Come on, ladies. You know it's true.

[D]

And she's a nation lady. If we're gonna go crazy.

[B]

They're trying to parallel park. That's the problem.

[D]

She's hitting the curb every time.

[B]

My wife is gonna be so pissed at that.

[A]

All right, so we're gonna jump to the, to the next story here. MSNBC from the New York Times. Goodbye, msnbc. Hello, miss. Now, the Cable News Network is changing its name this year because a corporate spinoff is separating MSNBC from its cousin, NBC News. For three decades, news and progressive opinion on the cable dial has been defined by five capital letters, msnbc. By the end of this year, a couple of those letters are changing. That's not actually true because right after 9 11, I watched MSNBC all the time. And Joe Scarborough was still a conservative, he was still a Republican. He had a nighttime show. Dan Abrams had a nighttime show. They had, they had a fairly. They had some variety in their opinions. And then when Morning Joe started, when they first got on air for the first probably five years, years, Joe was still a conservative. This is probably before he started banging Mika, to be honest with you.

[C]

His handler.

[A]

Yeah, that's what happened. Oh, see how she started saying no, no, you can't have these opinions, Joe, if you, if you want to. Actually, it was that good. Okay. I mean, her father was big enough Brzezinski. You know, the guy that was from the Council on Foreign Relations on did.

[C]

Help fund Pol Pot.

[A]

Oh, did he?

[C]

Through Carter.

[A]

Oh God. Garbage. Garbage people. But, but yeah. So anyways, as part of a corporate spin off from Comcast, MSNBC is changing its names to its name to My Source News Opinion World, or Ms. Now for short. The name is meant to reflect the channel's mission to provide breaking news and best in class opinion journalism, rebecca Cutler said. MSNBC president said in a memo to employees on Monday. I want to acknowledge that for many years, you who have spent years or decades here, it's hard to imagine the network by any other name, Ms. Cutler said. This was not a decision that was made quickly or without significant debate. Most of the cable channels that were part of Comcast NBC Universal TV empire are being spun out this year into a new company called Verisant. The spinoff will require the new company to stop using the NBC brand and its signature peacock, which are both staying with Comcast, said Mark Lazarus, chief executive of Verisant. This gives us the opportunity to chart our own path forward, create distinct brand identities and establish an independent news organization following the spin, Mr. Lazarus said in the memo to employees. CNBC will retain its initials, which stand for Consumer News and Business Channel, but will be accompanied by a new logo without the peacock when the separation is complete, which is expected by the end of the year. Adam Miller, the chief operating officer at NBC Universal, said in a memo to employees on Monday that the change would help avoid confusion between viewers of NBC News and msnbc, as the two channels cover the same news events. Since the split was announced a few months ago, MSNBC has gone on a hiring spree, adding at least three dozen journalists as the organization prepares to separate itself from the sizable news gathering power prowess of NBC News, its longtime corporate cousin. This is not going to substantially change what msn, what you know, what is it? Ms. Now is right. This is going to be the same progressive drivel. It's going to be the same, you know, same, same company that's been getting terrible ratings for the past five years at least. I mean, the Democrat Party is in, has been in freefall forever when it comes to, you know, brand and brand or the brand or Whatever. So I don't see how this is gonna, is anything more than what they have to do because of the spin off. This is not going to help their ratings or anything. I mean, what's that, what's your sense, Chris?

[E]

Oh, absolutely not. No, I mean I feel like I'm listening to like a news release from 20 years ago. Like this is like a kind of a rare insight into the perverted mind of corporate culture. It's all about mergers and divergers and branding. Oh the branding, the branding. It's, it's really pathetic and it's not going to impact their ratings at all, especially not positively, I don't think.

[D]

And NBC has slowly but surely we've all noticed, I'm sure turned into even worse than MSNBC with their lies and their whole progressive format. So it's like they said, MSNBC and NBC are basically the same news station.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

So they're going to get rid of one and keep the one that has more of a, a longevity name. You know, NBC has been around forever compared to msnbc.

[C]

Do you think at one point they had Ms. NWO and someone was actually like we can't, we can't, we can't do the mask off. Not yet.

[E]

But at least that makes a little bit of sense. Like it's a cool name. What does this one stand for?

[C]

News, opinion and world.

[D]

Yeah, it doesn't sound even words.

[C]

It sounds NWO sounds better but they, they couldn't.

[D]

Yeah, I miss now.

[C]

Yeah, it sounds like Democracy now which is another.

[E]

Which would be perfect. That's in line with the brand. Yeah, that's what they're trying to do.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Dude.

[D]

And they're getting rid of the Golf Channel and E and Oxygen and USA Network. Not E. Remember USA Network. You said decent shows back in the.

[B]

Huh.

[E]

Once upon a time.

[A]

Used to.

[D]

Keyword is used to.

[B]

I mean, but I mean all they're really doing is slapping a fresh coated paint on the same title project. You know, it's like, you know, this is still the channel of people like Joy Reid. You know, this is still, I mean they fired her, but her imprint's still there. Yeah, no, this is still the channel where you know, it's basically just turned into a propaganda wing of the Democrat party. People are not going to turn in and watch it now when it's just, you know, Trump is bad 24 hours a day. This is why like I don't know anyone who watches the View, you know, when you turn into just Trump is bad. Trump is bad. But the majority of the country voted for him. And more people are leaning towards the right now because the left has gone so crazy. It's the same thing. And if you're all, all you're doing when you rebrand it is now just saying, okay, we're going to, we're going to make it look a little different, but it's going to be the same thing. And they might get a slight bump like the first day or two or maybe the first week, but it's not going to last past that there.

[D]

Aren't they very racist too? Like MSNBC is, is they're more, more or less progressive. They're more racist progressive.

[A]

They're steeped in critical race.

[D]

There we go.

[A]

Theory. And critical race theory makes people racist. Yeah. I mean, when you, if your focus is race, if that's the first aspect that you see when you see another person is, is, it's just, well, their race. So I make all these assumptions that go along with it. That's, I mean, that's boilerplate racism. And yes, they're full of incredibly racist people, if that, you know, unless you, unless you ascribe to their definition of racism, which is just the definition, that makes it okay for them to be racist is essential.

[B]

Listen, I get called a racist almost every day against black people, which I'm like, listen, like, please, no one tell my family. They're going to be pissed, you know, but I mean, don't they still have Al Sharpton who does commentary?

[A]

Yep. Is he still there, if I understand correctly.

[B]

So, I mean, you know, he's, he's about. Down to about 115 pounds now and about 50 pounds. That is in his head, because that way it doesn't look right. Yeah, but I mean, like I said, all they're doing is slapping fresh coated paint. It's not going to do anything for them. And they're going to keep continuing to spiral down until they actually change their content and actually do something different.

[A]

Yeah. Do you think that, that the progressives in the US and I, when I say the progressives, I mean people that share their opinions. Do you think that they would move on their opinions? Because I really do think the, the actual, the thought leaders in, on the left. Right. So the people that aren't just, you know, regurgitating what they've heard in school or regurgitating what they've heard on the news, the people that are actually, you know, thinking about these, these ideas and, and trying to come up with where, you know, what actually does progressive mean and stuff. Do you think that those People are going to change in response to the, the solid rejection that the countries kind of, you know, decided to give them. Or do you think that they're going to just try and repackage?

[B]

I think they're going to dig their heels in and say, no, you're all wrong, I'm right. Because that's what's happening in all these liberal capitals. You look at what's happening in California, look at what's happening in New York City, look at what's happening. Like, you know, Jasmine Crockett, of all people, you know, how many times can you be told you're wrong or proven wrong or even your own party rejects you? And now and you're still like, but I'm right, but I'm going to keep doing this, but I'm right, I'm right. So I think they're just going to dig their heels in, say, I'm right, I'm correct, and watch everything crumble around them and then try to figure out why it's gotten this bad. Like, I mean, I, I spoke to someone the other day and he, I showed him the, the, the graph that Elon Musk put up one time where he said, you know, I'm right here. And it used to be this is where like the middle was. And then the middle kept going further and further and further to, to the right and, and the left kept going further and further out and more extreme. And he said, well, no, you have to change yourself now to be more towards the middle. And I said, you know, well, why? You have to change what you believe in in order to appease the middle. You know, if you, if you are who you are and your beliefs have never changed and now you're seen as a right wing extremist because you have beliefs that 20 years ago were considered more towards middle. Why should you change? And he's like, no, but that's, but you have to change. You have to. So this is where these people are. It's a warped way of thinking. It doesn't make sense to anyone who just thinks logically. But this is, this is what the left has become.

[D]

Sounds like. You have to, you have to appease the group.

[B]

If you're not the appease.

[D]

If you don't appease the group, then you're bad. Then you're right wing. If you don't follow them down their trail of lemmings off the cliff, then you're definitely going to be, you know, considered right wings.

[B]

You have to continue to appease the group. So if someone comes to you and says. Well, my pronouns are they, them. Now, you have to, you can't just say, oh, I was talking, I was talking to him earlier. You have to say, oh, I was talking to them earlier. And, and normal, rational people are going, okay, them who? Like, I only see one person. Oh, no, he's, he's non. Binary, you know, but this is what, yeah, this is what you have to be. Or, or if you, if you're a furry and you believe that you truly believe in your heart, oh, I'm a cat, you know, you have. Okay, well, you know, I'll put the litter box out for you. No one look as he's pooping in the litter box, as we're all trying to eat, you know, it turns into one of those things.

[D]

And that's why we call them a cult, right, brother?

[C]

Yeah, they are a cult. Corporate won't allow them to change their minds, even if they probably feel differently inside. Because you see, like independent leftists, someone like Anakasparian has been able to say things against the monolith that gets her in trouble with her base, but she feels comfortable doing that because she believes that in her heart she's seen in LA the crime and how it's changed, you know, and how things like defund the police was a bad decision. But I don't think they can go out and say we've changed our minds on a corporate platform like this. If they do, that would be shocking.

[A]

So it's your sense that. When you say corporate, do you mean that the, the major direction of the left is from corporations?

[C]

A lot of it, yeah. I mean, like corporate outlets, like, like an NBC, like a Microsoft, like those places that are funded with had the big pharma commercials, ad breaks and stuff that.

[A]

So you don't, so you don't think that. Because it's my sense that most of the, the direction of the left is really coming from people like. Or it comes from basically academia, right? So people like bell hooks, people like. I'm not sure who's actually active nowadays, but it was like your, your postmodernists, your leftists, your, your Foucault, your, you know, and those kind of thinkers. So is it your sense that they don't shape the opinions of the left, or is it your opinion that people in corporate America hear that and they say this is what we should do because that's what they believe, or do you think that it's, this is what we should do because this is what we think people will purchase?

[C]

It's the latter Corporate America bends the knee to fear. Like they're, They're. They are dictated by what the people that. What they think the people will riot over. But I think the left is fractured, so it's hard to say one group is inspiring the left over another. Just like the right is fractured. You see MAGA types and you see Lindsey Graham types. You know, it's hard to see, you know, who. Exactly. There's not one thing influencing them all, but the left is more of a monolith. I do believe that. But, you know, watching people like on the Young Turks have conversations with people on the right, you don't. I don't think you'll see that at least in a long format context out of a Ms. Now or, you know, especially on. On the viewer, it's all just sound bites and they want to attack you. Whereas more independent minded people who might still have. Who definitely still hold leftist beliefs, they're. They're willing to. To talk it out.

[A]

Well, Casperian in particular, like, and I'm. I think she's hilarious. But her in particular, like, she literally, like, had a. Had an interaction with reality. Yeah, her. Her ideology bumped into reality, and she was forced to change what she thought because she started saying, wait a minute, this. This. This isn't. It's not true. I mean, there's a. There's a clip that's pretty famous of her talking about some murders that were happening on Long Island. She was. When she heard the story, she's like, this is. This can't be true. And then she goes, it's true, guys. It was real. It's real. You know, and she's like, I was gonna. I was just gonna blow it off. But then. Because the left really can't be trusted. And so people that have trusted the left for a long time, and Rittenhouse is another perfect example. There are tons of people on the left that would swear up and down that Rittenhouse was there to kill black people. And he did kill black people. It's like, bro, he. He killed two white guys that attacked him. And, and they would swear up and down that, no, that's not what happened. Even to the point where if you show them evidence, they, they kind of still don't believe it. I don't. I think that Cenk is, Is actually one of those guys like, he saw and he would. He's still like, well, he was still. He was wrong for going there, et cetera, et cetera.

[C]

They're allergic to it. I. I do also want to say someone like Anna is rare on the left. Like, I think a lot of them will sacrifice themselves into. Into danger, you know, if it conflicts with their worldview. Like during the George Floyd riots, like, I was living right near Newburgh in New York, and there were people who were having their windows smashed. You know, it was crazy rioting. And the next day, they put up boards on their storefront window saying, we forgive you. You know, like, they don't care about their own personal safety, you know, at least not outwardly, you know, so they are willing to sacrifice themselves for their ideology. And that seems to be more prevalent than someone like Anna Kasparian who's willing to confront reality and publicly say, I've changed my mind.

[B]

Wasn't there a study done once where they said that for you to give up your belief, like, it's. It's. It's actually, like, painful. It's physically painful to yourself, like, for you to admit that, you know you're wrong?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So. So for someone that thinks that Kyle Rittenhouse. I'm sorry.

[A]

No, no.

[B]

So for someone like Kyle Rittenhouse, where they were like, you know, oh, he. This is. This is white supremacy. I think my wife's cousin put up, like, a post on Facebook, you know, after the whole thing happened, where he was not guilty, and she goes, this is white supremacy at play right here.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it was like, okay, this is a white guy, right, who shot three other white people, right, In South Dakota in the grandest definition of self defense there could be.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Please explain to me how this is white supremacy. And she was like, well, it just is the crazy. You got me. Okay.

[C]

You could show those. Some of these people the footage, and they'd still walk away with that belief that they initially held.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, like, you could show them the very Fine people on both sides, full context. You show them Rittenhouse, all these different things, and they still have a hard time changing. We had someone on the show this year. We were talking. I forget what it was. It was Very Fine People, and she couldn't even still wrap her head around it. And Snopes had already. Snopes, of all places, said it was fake.

[A]

One of my friends, a good buddy of mine that I've been friends with for years and years, he's pretty left. And when it comes to the. The Donald Trump Very Fine People thing, I'm like, look, man. You know, look, look. And he's like, well, he was still there. There were Nazis there. So I'm like, bro. He specifically said, no. And, like, when. When it Came to like, that whole thing. Like, the, the Nazis were not openly Nazis before. Like before the actual like, thing. Like, they were like kind of keeping it on the down low. But yeah, just, just was just like, look, man, he was there and Nazis were there. So it doesn't matter.

[E]

The problem is that these people, they need to have genuine character. And in order to have genuine character, you have to admit that you were lied to, that you believe the lie without thinking about it critically and you promulgated it. And most people don't have the, the character to actually fess up to that kind of thing. It doesn't matter if you prove it to them or not. You know, they're just not going to go for it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And look at the whole party switch argument from the left. Like, like I keep asking, do you really believe that Republicans got together with Democrats and just kind of went, okay, like, we're going to reverse this. Right. Okay, cool. You know, somebody just threw out the UNO reverse card and said, okay, from now on, this is how we're going to do this. It's been disproven over and over again, but they still hold on to that. Like, I get in arguments almost every other day with someone who's like, well, the party switched, you know, even though the KKK was started out as the enforcement wing of the, of the Democrat party, the party switched when and who switched? And then they're like, well, you know, just Google it. No, no, you Google it. You said it.

[C]

So it was not gonna give you the answer anyway, you know. Yeah, but they can these days. You can go up and get any online and get anything to confirm your bias, you know, so we know, we know is to be true. We believe in objective truth. I think most of us in this room, but they think they believe in objective truth and they go to something like Google and they can just find whatever website they can find to confirm that bias and then that's the gospel to them and that's it.

[D]

And. And there's no such thing as Nazi in today's world. Like, that's blatantly false. There might be neo Nazis, but like Germany from 1930s and 40s is done.

[C]

It's sounds like Raymond's not listening to Inverter World Live. We have the Fourth Reich on Mars right now and below Antarctica.

[E]

That was a wild episode.

[A]

And Hitler's alive.

[C]

And Hitler's alive.

[A]

So I am shocked that he did not have a heart attack back on the show. Sweating, bro. You know, he was.

[C]

I had this dude calling who says, and the Fourth Reich is cool with Jews now. And they have a base beneath Antarctica. I don't want to get this show out of control, but. Yeah, but they are alive, so I've heard. I'll get you.

[B]

I'll get you there. I've got, I've got. If there's ever a reason now to visit Antarctica, I gotta see this.

[C]

You gotta get special permission from Trump first. Yeah, can't go there. They'll arrest you.

[A]

Well, you got to go in the winter here because it's summertime down there, aren't they?

[D]

Dark side of the moon. Nazi bases still like old ones.

[C]

Do you really want to. Do you really want to go in down.

[D]

No, no.

[C]

I think they're below the moon, but the Chinese are on the dark side of the moon.

[A]

When you get done, call.

[D]

I'll call in. Show. I'll call in.

[C]

I'll hook you up.

[D]

I'll call in on our after show here.

[C]

Awesome.

[A]

There you go. All right, so we're going to, we're going to jump to this story from U.S. news. Trump vows to end use of mail in ballots ahead of 2026 midterm election. From Reuters. US President Donald Trump pledged on Monday to issue an executive order to end the use of mail in ballots and voting machines ahead of the 2026 midterm elections, a move likely to disproportionately favor his Republican Party. Federal elections are administered at the state level, however, and it is unclear if the president has the constitutional power to enact the measure legally. Legal changes by some states are likely legal. I'm sorry, Legal challenges by some states are likely. With Democrat voters traditionally more likely to use mail in ballots than Republicans. Trump's pledge is his last effort to reshape the midterm election battlefield to his party's advantage. He also, he has also urged Republicans in states, including Texas and Indiana to redraw congressional districts to increase the likelihood of a Republican candidate being elected. Yes, the November 23rd. I'm sorry, November 3rd, 2026 elections will be the first, first nationwide referendums on Trump's domestic and foreign policy since he returned to power in January. Democrats will be seeking to break Republicans grip on both the House of Representatives and the Senate to block Trump's domestic agenda. I mean, they say to block Trump's domestic agenda, but really it's to try to impeach Trump like they want to get the House. So that way they can just have, you know, two years of attempts at impeaching him. And the way that this, you know, this piece is written is clearly to be critical of Republicans. Look, it's likely that if the. Actually I have a very firm take on this. If the, if the economy is not good next year at this time, doesn't matter what policies the Republicans have or I've talked about, the Republicans will lose the House. If the economy is good, then the Republicans can keep the House. That's not a guarantee. That's just saying that if they have the right people and they do the right things, if they're running the right candidates, they're doing the right things. The people that are running for reelection are actually doing the things they need to do to make sure that they win, then again they can win. But it's all going to come down to the economy. And you know, the last bit of economic information that I saw was inflation kind of ticked up the pat in the past month. This will not be good for Republicans if inflation is still running kind of hot next year at this time because inflation, like prices aren't going to come down. Inflation that happens. Like it doesn't. It's not like you. The inflation happens and then, you know, prices go up and then they come down again like that. Inflation is sticky as hell. So this is, is, I think this is a good idea. I think the Republicans should do these kind of things because I think that anytime the Republicans can legally do can, you know, take any kind of political measures to give themselves an advantage, I think they should. Democrats will given the chance. You know, Newsom is talking about, oh, well, you know, if they redistrict in Texas, then we're going to redistrict in California. That doesn't matter because if it turns into a redistricting fight, the Republicans have all the cards. There will be a handful of, of a handful of new seats for that Democrats could win. But even still, it's not guarantee. But there's a handful of seats that Democrats would. And then Republicans I think would, would have something like 10. There was a tweet that I saw that I'll actually bring up in a second. But back to mail in ballots. I mean, this is, this is the smart play, right? This is the way to make sure that there aren't people doing funky things after the polls have closed or things are actually counted properly. I mean, what is your sense of.

[B]

I mean, I just, I remember being a kid and elections were figured out on the night of election night. When did we get away from that? Why is it now that, you know, okay, election day was Tuesday. We're not going to Know who actually won until two weeks from today. Like, when did this start happening? I thought technology made things better and streamlined things to make things better.

[A]

The first time that I noticed it was, I think, think 2020. Right. Or was it because in 2016 we knew that. That Trump won, you know, by. By midnight or something.

[C]

Like, did have the hanging chads.

[A]

The hanging chads. But the hanging chads are different than waiting to count. Right. The hanging chads were like. That was. Honestly. That was Democrats saying, well, these are. On these. These aren't. We're not sure who they were voting for because there's a hanging chad, et cetera. But I thought that they were. And it was Democrats trying to do recounts. I was. I was under the impression or the way that I rem. Was all about Democrats saying, wait, wait, it's close, so let's recount them. And generally, every time they do a recount, the side that's trying to do the recount and wants to get more votes, miraculously, they find more votes.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The hanging chads, you weren't supposed to notice that. You weren't supposed to.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Seriously, though, they want you to deny it. Like, I think of the hanging chads in terms of the Carrie Lake trial she had for her ballots because it was sort of similar in terms of what was an invalid ballot. And they had no chain of custody for entire pallets of. Of these ballots. And. And they actually printed out the wrong size ballot, you know, and they couldn't feed it into the machine properly. It was totally bogus. And the court was totally stacked against her. And there were people that were caught lying on the stand. Didn't matter. It was insane, you know, So I think this is great. I think I remember mail in ballots only being. I mean, I'm sure this isn't the case, but as a kid, I remember them being mostly for soldiers who are overseas or something, you know, which seems. I'm okay with that. But now it's the thing to do. And also dead people. And I like to stop that.

[D]

I wonder if it's because folks are getting just a random thought that folks are getting old. Like their base.

[A]

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[D]

For Democrats are getting really old to get the boomers. You know, they can't get into their cars, they can't drive. So they, and that's why they harvest as well go around from place to place in the cities and like yo old person here, go ahead and vote for Democrats so we can get more people on it and where maybe younger folks might not be voting as much. But also end of day, if we can use the power to keep America strong and safe and secure, freaking use it. Trump, let's go.

[A]

I mean, remember when Democrats are saying things like, you know, our democracy, they don't actually mean democracy because if they did, they wouldn't be looking to expand the court or. I'm sorry, yeah, expand the court and pack, you know, pack the court and then they want to add states that. So that way they have, have the likelihood of more senators or the voting age, lower the voting age and get rid of the electoral College. All of these things are because they don't like the actual way that things go. If hey search, can you bring that to so people can see. This is from Crystal Lizza, who is no, no Republican or friend of conservatives. The states that were draw their maps, you get some in Oregon, California, Illinois and Maryland. But look at this. This is a massive amount of, of possibility for, for the Republicans. So if this does turn into a fight between, you know, Democrats and Republicans, redistricting, I mean, the, the Republicans have a lot more, a lot more possible votes to get or seats to get as opposed to, to Democrats. So even though, you know, Gavin Newsom's news or whatever, his, his social media team is out there, you know, doing the best they can in the past couple days and actually, in my opinion, they've got a couple funny tweets, but that's, that's all they are is just funny tweets. They're, they're out there, you know, doing the best they can. The reality, reality of the situation is they're in a bad position to even try to talk about this argument. Right. If this is their, if they actually do want to get into a redistricting fight, Republicans seem like they're, they're again holding all the cards.

[B]

Have you ever actually looked at Illinois's map as far as their representative? It's crazy. It looks like like a kid drew what they could on the map and you've got like, like it's a mess. So if they actually redistrict their map in Illinois, it's going to turn into Democrats fighting Democrats. Yeah, same thing with California. It's going to turn into Democrats fighting Democrats over, over, you know, their seats. So the red states definitely have more to gain from any kind of red district kind of fight that they're gonna. Gonna go for. But as far as far as what Gavin Newsom's trying to do in retaliation to what Texas is doing, he's gonna lose 10 times out of 10.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So if. If he wants to pick that fight and he wants to pick that battle and he wants to bring Illinois with him, he wants to bring Pritzker with him, you know, he wants to. They're gonna lose. And I think ultimately the Democrat Party is looking at them like, don't, don't, Don't. Don't do this. You're gonna. We're gonna lose this fight. Don't do this. Please don't.

[A]

So the past couple days, it's kind of seemed like Gavin Newsom has moved. And granted, we're a long way away from any election, right. And it's clear that Gavin Newsom wants to be the president. But it's. In the past couple days, it's really looked like he's kind of taken initiative and put himself in a position to be considered the face of the Democrat Party and really out there working it hard. Do you guys have the sense that he could possibly be the nominee? And, and how does someone like Gavin Newsom take on someone like AOC if she decides that she wants to run? Because both of them have, you know, significant political chops, and AOC is very savvy. How. Who wins the. The. The primary for the Democrats? If It's. If it's AOC versus Gavin Newsom versus Pritzker versus I don't know who else.

[B]

I don't think AOC's got a shot. I don't think AOC'S got a shot. Anyone with. With common sense to work in brain cells looks at AOC and is like, no, I don't think she's. She. I think she'll appeal to the younger crowd. But I mean, listen, if they put her in a debate with a possible JD Vance with a possible Marco Rubio, she will get destroyed. She'll get destroyed worse than Kamala Harris did.

[A]

But this is. This is. This is primaries that we're talking about. So. So maybe if. If she does go. I think you're right about.

[B]

So let's say she. Let's. Let's. Let's pretend. Let's pretend she beats Gavin Newsom, which I don't think is going to happen, but she'll get destroyed. I think the Democrat Party knows that. I think Gavin Newsom is their best shot, and I think he knows he's their best Shot. So that's why he's been going on the podcast. That's why he's been, he's been trying to put his name more out there.

[A]

Have you seen the picture going around on X of Gavin Newsom and his family?

[B]

Oh, absolutely.

[A]

Know they are just as white, blonde, blue eyed. How does that family win the Democrat nomination? Because, you know, people that are looking to win are going to use the fact that he's a white guy and it's a white family and. Because if that was a Republican to be like, they're Nazis, clearly. Look at, they're blonde, they're blue eyed. Look, they're all, they're. Of course they're Nazis. That was the same, that was the same argument that the people were making about the Sydney Sweeney. So how does he beat that?

[B]

See, if I'm Jasmine Crockett, this is, this is my time to shine.

[A]

She's his vp.

[B]

Yeah, listen, I'd be calling Gavin, like, hey, listen, Gavin, you're gonna need, you're gonna need a sister girl out there.

[C]

You need a Kamala.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, you need, you need a Kamala. You need a sister girl. So listen, I'm your, I'm your best shot. Who else does? Who do the Democrats have?

[C]

I mean, not Ilhan.

[B]

Not Ilhan. I don't think she can't be vp.

[C]

Yeah, hopefully. No, she can't.

[A]

She can't.

[C]

You can't marry your brother and be vp.

[B]

But I mean, listen, if I'm Jasmine or you know what? Maybe this is where AOC comes in. Yeah, she's, she's.

[C]

I could see that. I think Gavin Newsom announced his presidency, his run for presidency, when he announced his podcast, like it was a slow rebranding into him being this national figure. I mean, I was at the primary debate at the Reagan Library for the Republicans. Trump wasn't there. There's all these, you know, Vivek, I forget Nikki Haley, all those people. And Newsom showed up at the, at the library and he took over his presence, dominated for all the Fox News guys, Sean Hannity, that's all they wanted to talk to. And he's charming like a devil. You know, he is super charming, but he dominated the other guys. They didn't even do many interviews. Some of them just walked away afterwards, the Republicans. But he took over the whole thing. And to see him work like that, it's, it's insane. It's infuriating because he tricks people. I even see, like a lot of Republicans there who are fawning over him because they think he's this handsome guy. It's just like. But he looks like American Psycho to me.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

You know, and I don't. There's no amount of rebranding he can do that will ever make me forget what he did during COVID And the same goes for any of these leftists.

[A]

I mean, to be fair, I do think that you're fairly anomalous though. Yeah. Like, I don't think that. I think that the average kind of person that would meet Gavin Newsom isn't going to be as critical as you would be. Like, I mean, I've been most people who fled California. Well, that's not, that's in the grand scheme of things, that's not a lot of people. And to be honest with you, like, I spent all weekend putting pictures of the sand filled skate parks underneath everything that Gavin Newsom was doing. I'm just like, all right, if I saw, if it just came across, I'm like, I'll grab the pictures, post it. That's it. Because he's trying to, he's trying to use the freedom and the free. California was one of the, one of the things they were talking about come to the free state of California, which is absolutely ridiculous. Like, the idea that California is one of the free estates is just absurd. But I think that the media team that he's got is really, really savvy. I think they're smart and I think that the things that they're doing will convince people and it definitely will fire Democrats. Up, up. I know that the chat's gonna hate the fact anytime you say anything like this, that's like any, any kind of analysis where it's like, look, this, these are good ideas and they're going to work. They're just like, oh, you're a shill, you're a moron. But that it's true. Right. Like the same thing with like aoc. Like aoc. As much as, you know, you can hate her and I hate her policies, I would never vote for her. But you can't deny when she gets on Instagram and she's cooking and she's talking to people, young people are just like, that's my girl. I love her, you know, tons of them. And to discard to, to, you know, just, just blow that aside or to, to not pay attention to how dangerous that is to Republicans and to the country because I think their, their policies would, would do an. Would they be terrible for the country if you disregard how dangerous that is? That's the same thing that people did about Donald Trump. They ignored all the people that were saying, I like Donald Trump. The, the, the, I mean, Hillary Clinton had a 95 or 98 chance on election night and it was clear to a handful of people, donald Trump's gonna win. And they laughed, they laughed at him. So the idea that we can just ignore these people and just say, oh, they're stupid. Oh, they're stupid because we disagree with them, that is an error despite error that will cost the American people significantly.

[C]

Despite Newsom being charming, I think it's inauthentic. And Trump, I think, is better at being authentic despite him making people really uncomfortable sometimes on the left, of course. But I don't think Newsom's able to carry that inauthenticity on a national platform. And I just disagree. I think a lot of people aren't going to forget how bad he governed California. Not just during COVID but afterwards. I mean, it was, was super dystopian. A lot of people did leave. He's got, he also has a long, long track record in California between being mayor, these controversies and all this stuff. I don't know if people are going to forget that so easily.

[A]

So one of the things that we. Good, please.

[B]

No, I'll just, I'll say this. I hate to disagree with you.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But American voters have a very short memory.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like I listened, like I, I listened to Gavin Newsom on a podcast and if I didn't know any better, he comes across as a normal, level headed kind of guy. You don't think about how he shut down California. You don't think about how he told everybody in California to lock down, but then he was caught at the French Laundry. You know, you don't think about all the policies he did, how he kicked all the homeless people out of, out of California or out of LA real quick set. Chairman Mao could come and hang out and drive through the streets and make it look like, you know, know, California is this pristine place. You, you. And then on the podcast he's like, yeah, you know, that was, I just, I own up to it and it was wrong of me to do so. And, you know, so he comes across as like a level headed kind of guy. And the American voter has a very short memory. I mean, thankfully, they didn't fall into it with Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is like, you know, the devil spawn herself. But for Gavin Newsom, and especially like you said, if the economy doesn't shape back up, if, if Trump doesn't deliver on a lot of stuff he was doing. If J.D. vance takes a tumble somewhere, we might be looking at it.

[C]

How do you feel in terms of that in New York with Cuomo running for mayor? Because that's all. I left New York because of Cuomo, you know, for a lot of reasons, but Cuomo being one of the main reasons, because he governed a lot like Newsom. I'd say maybe worse in many ways. Do you think the people in New York have that short term memory when it comes to Cuomo, or are they just going to Mamdani?

[B]

I, I think if you look at New York, it's just that, Mom, Donnie came out of nowhere and he was, he was this guy. He got a lot of younger people behind him. He said all the right things. I'm going to give you free this and free that and free this. And for a lot of these kids coming out of college, it's like, hey, that's wonderful. I'm gonna, I'm not gonna have to pay for anything. You know, With Cuomo, I think it was more he, he dropped the ball as far as he expected to just get the vote. He expected his name recognition and titled. Yeah, he was, he felt he was just entitled to what he. Yeah, I think he felt he didn't have to work. I think Hillary actually fell into the same trap as, well, Hillary just kind of figured, listen, you're gonna vote for me because of who my husband is, and Barack already gave me the, the, the blessing for it. It's my turn, it's my turn, you know, and I'm a woman, so you're gonna vote for me. And then Trump came out of nowhere. I think Cuomo fell into that same trap. I don't think Newsom's gonna fall into that trap. Like, he's already going on the podcast. He's already putting himself out there. He's already, you know, got, got his own podcast. He's already going out there and smiling and shaking hands and talking about other states other than California. So he's not falling into that trap.

[A]

Like, I'm very, very Pro2A. Like, I'm as, I'm about as, as, Like I'm repeal the Hughes Amendment to a Pro2A, right. Like machine guns should be sold in vending machines. So when I saw Gavin Newsom go on the Sean Ryan show, I was like, this guy is going to be dangerous. Because that was very smart. Obviously, the people that watch Sean Ryan all the time, the people that, that actually are really Pro2A, they know that Sean gave him a handgun. He's not gonna, he ain't gonna carry that. It's not like he's gonna be, you know, down at the range, appendix carry, clearing his shirt. You know, that's not happening. But the fact that he went there and he was talking to him, he had a bunch of people that were conservative. He had Charlie Kirk on his, on his podcast. I'm talking about Gavin Newsom had Charlie Kirk on his podcast. These kind of things are going to be able to sway the people that are just a little moderate. And one of the things that we said a lot before the 2000 or before the last election was there are very few moderates or there are very few undecided, right? Like the Democrats are going to vote for whoever the nominee is. So if it's, if it's Newsom, there you go. They're going to vote for Newsom. That's. That's baked in. And there's a small portion of people that you can sway. And again, I'm, I firmly believe that the economy is the, actually the actual most important topic all the time, every election. And if the economy is not doing well in come 2028, you know, the Republicans, whoever the Republican candidate is, is going to have a hard time. Because how do you distance yourself if it is JD Vance, how do you distance yourself from Donald Trump? You know, because Donald Trump will not let you. If you say, well, you know, that was Trump, Donald Trump will get on true social and just all over you. You know, I can imagine it. So you're not going to be able to distance yourself from Trump up. And if you're going up against someone like Gavin Newsom, who is a chameleon or a lizard, which chameleons are lizard, right? Yeah, I think so. But, yeah, like, you go up against that guy who can walk into a place with, with moderates, and they'll be like, look, man, I can get behind this guy. See, he doesn't hate guns. Look, didn't you see him on Sean Ryan? They don't have any idea what California's gun laws are like. Or they would say, well, you know, they're not his fault. He was only the governor for a couple years. And those California gun laws have been like that. There's a bunch of excuses that people can come up with. So the idea that this guy is, is someone that you can, you know, just, just blow off.

[E]

I mean, the thing to remember about Gavin Newsom having lived in California is that he is a conniving psychopath. And I think he's actually a brilliant Psychopath.

[A]

It's part of the problem.

[E]

He's a brilliant Bundy, but here's the thing. He's a brilliant politician. Not in terms of policy or in terms of governing, in terms of the rot and filth that makes politics what it is. He loves that stuff. That is what he. And he knows that. He loves that. He loves to be in that swamp and in the muck and he's really good at it.

[C]

So perfect for the White House.

[E]

Yeah, in many ways he is. And I'm not joking about that. Yeah. Because he knows how to be that politician. He wants to be at the very top.

[C]

And to your guys, points about the short term memory, JD Vance was a never Trumper not that long ago.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And the right forgave him. I just have a really hard time. I hold a grudge against politicians. I can't imagine ever forgiving any of these people, left or right, for what they did during COVID And we're still feeling the ramifications for that. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I probably won't again though. Probably done after last time.

[B]

I'll tell you this though. Trump showed that the election comes down to the swing states. You're not going to go after the red states who are going to vote for the Republican. You're not going to go after the blue states that are just, you know, there. You might as well just call those states before anything comes in. Right. You're going to have to go for the swing states. And the more Gavin Newsom, which is what he's doing now, looks like he's in the middle. Like you talk about the Sean Ryan show, first thing he said was, oh man. Yeah, this is great. This is great. Listen, I'm not anti gun. I just want common sense stuff. I just want. And Sean Ryan didn't push back against him.

[C]

I saw.

[B]

So he was able to filibuster and he was able to talk and he was able to boost himself up as as much as he could. And the more he talked, which is scary, the more he came across as right in the middle. He didn't come across as an extreme to either side. Hey, listen, I'm just a common sense guy and this is who my mom was and this is, you know, I didn't really know my father growing up. So now he's appealing to the guys who, who, you know, maybe came from broken homes, didn't have a lot. Listen, this guy was a rich kid growing up. But the way he does, he describes it. Yeah, he was struggling, you know, he, I had a Business. I had to hire my mom and we. We all sat. So he comes across as very down home.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Very, very middle of the road. My story's just like yours. And he comes across as very likable.

[C]

Joe Biden.

[B]

Listen, listen. Yeah. Joe Biden. Every time you turn around. Every time he turned around. Yeah. No, I was. I was Catholic by. Raised. I was. Grew up with a bunch of Muslims and. But with.

[D]

With raising the black church.

[B]

Yeah. Pentecostals were right across the street.

[A]

Chinese food all the time.

[B]

Every time he turned around, he came from someplace.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Gavin Newsom is doing the same thing, but better. That's what makes him scary.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He said he won't get as much of the progressives and the radicals want. Want someone. You know, the family. The photo of him and his family. They're Nazis. They're never going to get that. Like, there are going to be more moderates and they don't. At the end of the day, they don't care what the color is as long as that person is going to feed their policies and ideology into the government.

[A]

Agree. I do think.

[B]

You think?

[A]

Well, I think part of the reason why they had to go with Kamala was because she was a black woman.

[D]

And they had like four days.

[E]

That's when the tide started to turn on this whole, like, white, black thing in terms of, like, how. How that picture would look or be manipulated by other people.

[B]

Also remember too, Biden was being painted as a racist.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So he had to.

[A]

Oh, that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

He had to go out and get himself.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

The closest thing to a sister girl.

[A]

He could get to make up for his. He was friends with busting.

[B]

She says. She says she's black. You know, she's kind of tan. You know what? Let's go for it. Let's go for it. You know, Newsom doesn't have that hanging over his head.

[D]

No. And that's why I go with Rokhanna, too. Also, I'm. I say Rokhana might have a chance because he's more moderate and he has. He's very moderate, but he's not like super far left, whereas Gavin is super far left and crazy.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

You think that.

[D]

I know you want to fight.

[A]

Well, no, I just wonder, do you guys think that. Because what he said. Do you think that that Newsom is actually super far left or do you think that he's just a political animal that had been doing the things that were necessary to win in California? Because it's my sense that I don't know what he truly believes. I don't know what his actual politics are. I think that he, that, that he's just extremely politically savvy and he's done the things necessary to win in the places that he's been running, which is why he's making a move to the center. Because he doesn't, he doesn't really believe. I don't know. I mean, I don't know what he believes, but he doesn't really believe. He, he touched the sacred cow and said, oh, well, you know, it's a bad idea to have trans, trans kids, trans women, you know, men competing against women. Like that is verboten in the Democrat part, in the progressive wing of the Democrat party. But he's moved away from those kind of things because he knows they're unpopular. So is it, you know, and I'd like to hear from everybody, like a.

[C]

Chameleon, he changes his colors.

[A]

Right.

[C]

He's straight up. He is, he is inauthentic, but he's charming at doing it. So he will be whatever. He's a vessel for whatever policy he thinks will get him the most political capital, which, that's why he's dangerous.

[E]

Kind of an old school, bygone era way to play politics, which is that. Which brings up the Joe Biden comparison. Like, but he knows how to, like, kind of retrofit that old school style to 2025. But it's still the same thing.

[C]

It's Hillary with the hot sauce, but.

[A]

Like a little more charming, more believable in.

[E]

More charming, more believable.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not as, it's not as in your face with Hillary playing, playing dominoes up in Spanish Harlem.

[D]

She carry hot sauce in her purse. Right.

[B]

That's so crazy. In her purse. And I, I don't think anybody believe that.

[C]

No one believed that, not even in the room.

[B]

But he is the type, like. But that's why I think it's, he's going on these podcasts the way he did. He actually looked at how Kamala Harris avoided all the podcasts and said, you know what? That's going to be the first thing I do. So, you know, so when he's on the podcast, he's not going on Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan eat him alive.

[D]

Yeah, but you think so?

[B]

Oh, absolutely.

[C]

He left California.

[D]

I love, I'd love to see that. That'd be. Yeah, if he wants to be president, he needs to go on.

[B]

If he goes on Joe Rogan, I'll, I'll give him his props.

[A]

He will.

[C]

I. I bet you he will. He's such a narcissist.

[D]

And he'll be so smooth and, like, ready.

[C]

Doesn't care about pushback.

[A]

He'll do it, and he'll wait until the summer before the election. He won't do it early. He's not. He's not gonna. He's gonna do it. People. Like. He'll do it like, July. June or July. He's thinking.

[B]

He says, Joe Rogan has already come out and said, I don't like him. So he's not gonna be able to do what he did on Sean Ryan. Like. Like, if you notice, when he went on Sean Ryan, Joe Rogan actually texted Sean.

[D]

I saw that. Yeah.

[B]

A question.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And he did everything but answer the question that Joe Rogan posed to him on Sean Ryan's show.

[A]

Right.

[D]

He.

[B]

He talked in circles all the way around that question and then came out on the other side.

[E]

No, it's brilliant what he does. You guys see his interview with Steve Bannon?

[A]

No. It was great.

[E]

So he did that for an hour. And at the end of Poppy, he's like, cc, we're both just populous here. We're just populous talking. See, he's a genius. He's a genius for that kind of.

[C]

Reptile figure, I'm not gonna take away from him. He is a brilliant politician, just an evil politician.

[D]

Like what you guys said. He's a lizard. He could chameleon. He's super Dennis, therefore he's dangerous.

[A]

Yes. Yes. That's my.

[E]

That's my.

[A]

Honestly, my point for kind of directing the conversation this way is I. I think that there are too many people that don't. That are on the right that think that, you know, we've come into a, you know, a golden age and Trump. And then, of course, it's going to be Vance and. And the Democrats, because they're. They're polling so low, there's. They're never going to win. And that is a recipe for disaster because. And I asked, you know, who do you guys think are talented on the. On the Democrat side? And there are a lot of people, like, nobody. They're all dumb, blah, blah, blah. Because they're all talking with their opinion about what they say or how they feel about those people, and they're not taking a realistic political view on these people. And they're not thinking about how dangerous is this person? How. How capable is this person to come across to the. Again, the very small amount of people that can actually be swayed. You know, I mean, it's Maybe there are 10 million people in America that actually could be swayed, you know, throughout the whole country. Otherwise everyone's kind of locked into their, their, their teams. And I think it's really important for conservatives and people on the right to, to address that and look at that as what it is, which is very dangerous because if someone like Gavin Newsom gets in, the Democrats take, you know, take control of the House and Senate and they get the presidency, you know that they will be arresting conservatives. They will do all of the stuff that they, that Joe Biden was doing. They will put all of their, their bureaucrat friends back into positions of authority. They will be going after Conservative did it in. They've been doing it since 2012 with the IRS stuff that Lois Lerner was doing it. They didn't stop. They continued. And it will only get worse. So it's, it will, it's, in my opinion, it's a very, it's very important for people on the right to understand that they will be coming after you. They will be coming after you if you speak up, they will be coming after you if you don't abide by their rules. If you don't want your kid to go to a school that is teaching LGBT stuff stuff, they will come to your house, they will take your kid from you and they will treat you like you're a criminal because they'll say you're hateful. There will be hate speech laws. There will be. It will be an absolute nightmare. All the things you see in the UK that will come here and the night. And if you look at what's going on in the uk, it is an effing nightmare. Like you, they, they arrest like 3,000 people a year for Facebook posts. They arrest more people in the UK for Facebook posts and than there have been people in Russia arrested for speaking out against Putin. And Russia is a pure dictatorship. And if you think that that can't happen here, just look at Covid. That did happen here. And it will only be worse. So it's vitally important for people to not think that Republicans are a shoo in. It's vitally important for people to understand that should someone like AOC or should someone like Gavin Newsom win that all that stuff is back on the table and they will. It. It's. It's just like when Biden was president, but it'll be way worse.

[D]

This whole Newsom talk might have just real quick changed my mind because Rokhan, he's moderate and he's authentic. I feel like he believes what he.

[A]

I feel like he believes what he.

[D]

Believes, and that's not going to get him elected. Whereas Newsom is a slimy rat lizard and he'll do whatever he says to get himself.

[A]

Even if it's Ro Khanna, he'll still appoint the same bureaucrats. Because. And so, like, to me, it's as much as, as the, like, Newsom is scary because he could get elected. And that's the thing that's bad. Yeah. It doesn't matter which one of them gets elected. They're still going to appoint the same bureaucrats with the same opinions, and they're still going to do the same stuff. So whether it be Rokhanna or whether it be AOC or whether it be Newsom or whether it be Jasmine Crockett or whoever. Right. It doesn't matter because Jasmine.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

It'll be the, the. It'll be the bureaucrats underneath them.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It'll be. That'll. That will be using the DOJ to go after conservatives. It'll be the bureaucrats underneath them that will be saying, oh, we need to bolster the Department of Education because of all the stuff that Trump did. And they're going to. It'll be a nightmare.

[B]

So what no one's talking about, though, which scares me, which keeps me up at night. No one's talking about the Supreme Court.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because we're talking about, okay, you know, we got three and a half years of Trump left. Right. And then we've got potentially, if Gavin Newsom gets into office, another eight years of him and how many Supreme Court appointments is he going to have? That's going to wildly swing our Constitution back the other way. Because if you have the Supreme Court, you control the Supreme Court, you can override the Bill of Rights. So Second Amendment is going to be severely restricted federally. Free speech, the First Amendment is going to be severely affected federally. We're talking about everything that's going on with the illegals right now in the border. Eight years of being able to go after the 14th amendment is going to be wild. So, I mean, it's, that's what, that's what we're looking at right now with a potential Gavin Newsom presidency.

[C]

Look how bad the four years of Biden was with the border in particular, what you're saying. I totally agree. People should not be underestimating the left. I think to Trump winning this second term, re mobilized. Re energized the left, and they're turning into a beast, a bigger beast, you know, that you can't underestimate.

[D]

Like we were like, let's go, let's go America. Let's go vote for the Republicans. Let's vote for Trump. And now that we're one, we're like, hey, you know, we're not as energized as we would as we should be. We should definitely not take our foot off the pedal and keep that going.

[A]

Yeah, all gas, no brakes. We're going to jump to this story here from the New York Post. Michigan City Councilman caught on camera stuffing an election Dropbox with absentee ballots Date Days before primary A Michigan City Council member was caught on camera stuffing an election Dropbox with apparent absentee ballots just days before he won his re election bid in a local primary. Ham Track City Council member Abu Musa was seen in the passenger seat of a car on August 1st handling handing stacks of paper to the car's driver, who then dumped them into a nearby ballot box. Footage obtained by Local 4 appears to show Musa held onto his onto his reelection spot in the primary four days later on August20, August 5, beating out 11 other candidates with 1129 votes. But only 286 of those votes were cast on election day, with 843 being cast by absentee ballot, the Daily Mail reported. Musa would have placed fifth without the absentee ballots. According to the mail, footage of the ballot box dump emerged earlier in August, just a day after two Hammer Track Council members were arraigned on election fraud charges over a 20202023 investigation. The that investigation was sparked after a city clerk noted absentee ballots were being dropped off in large bundles and filled out with suspiciously similar handwriting. And while Musa was named in the investigation, he was not charged. But along with another member of the City Council, he is at the center of an investigation into whether he's actually a resident of Hammer Track, something required to hold his City Council position. He has denied these allegations Local for reported so I mean, this is not important on a national level specifically, but it speaks to the type of thing that you have to worry about when it comes to absentee ballots and the type of thing you have to worry about when it comes to multiple days of voting. And that's one of the reasons why I think it's great that Donald Trump is is making the the executive order that he is. Now again, like we were saying earlier or like piece said earlier, the states do decide how they do their elections, right? That's constitutional. But that doesn't mean that the federal government can't say you can do your elections. However, you want, but they have to be done on this day. And you can't do absentee ballots, you can't do early voting, you can't do late voting, etc. Etc. The federal government can, can make some rules and I do think that things like when the voting is allowed to start, when the voting is allowed to, you know, must end by. I think those are something that the federal government can, can rule on. What do you guys think?

[D]

I like eight to eight on voting day. Eight to eight. You know, sentiment. They. Absentee ballots. If you're in the military, that's fine. It's totally fair. Yeah, maybe if you're immobile and you're, you're in Medicaid, you know, if you're older.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

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[D]

Maybe there's exceptions for certain rules if you can't get in there, but otherwise, just eight to eight. I'm okay with paper ballots as well. We don't need anything crazy. We can do electronics. I mean, I'm just saying one day, one day, get it done. In and out.

[C]

I'm okay with no electronics.

[D]

Sure.

[C]

Just get rid of them. I mean, that used to be a bipartisan issue. I remember Elizabeth Warren complaining About the machines 10 or 15 years ago, you know, and then when Trump does it, it's a bad thing. But she had the same issues with the machines that I don't think can be trusted.

[B]

I think it's very telling that the fact that the Democrats really don't care about securing our elections.

[D]

Yeah, it's weird.

[B]

They're just like, hey, listen, free for all. Hey, you know what you want, you want to put your mom's name on there and your grandmother and your memaw and everybody else on it. Go right ahead. And you, you want to. You. How long you been in the country? Oh, you're not supposed. Go ahead, vote.

[C]

You know, we don't need your IDs.

[B]

Yeah, we don't need your ID. Like, just show up, you know, So I mean, the fact that they have no concern about securing the cornerstone of our republic, of our democratic republic is, is extremely telling. And it lets me know what their agenda Is, I mean, when you look at just everything with the illegals that's going on right now and if, and the numbers came out there, if we were to get rid of every illegal in this country, the Democrats would lose something like 26 seats or something like, like something like a crazy number they had. They know it gives them an advantage.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

They know that the weaker the election laws are, the stronger they are. And it's not about Tim, it's not about country, it's not about securing the countries for them. It's not about the best possible candidate forward to them. It's about staying in power. So we need to be doing everything we can to fight against that.

[A]

Amen. Yeah. I mean, look, the, the Democrats have been making, you know, save our democracy their, their battle cry for ages now, and all the while they've been doing everything they can to shore up their power and none of it has been democratic. I mean, whether it be the throwing your, your, the leading candidate of your opposition in jail or arresting him and trying to throw him in jail, which it's still possible. I mean, there's, there's a, the suspended. Whatever the case with that suspended, like they. Trump could get done with his.

[B]

He brought back a library book. Book late. Yeah, library back in 1974.

[A]

You know, they're doing everything they can to fab. Basically fabricate, you know, charges against him. They've thrown all of his lawyers in jail or they charge them just for being his lawyer. Like they're like, oh, well, you're part of a conspiracy. It's like they're his lawyers. These, this is something that's guaranteed by the Constitution. They're not interested in any way in democracy or due process or legitimate act legitimately acquiring power. They're just looking to throw their opponents in jail. I mean.

[E]

Yeah, the commies.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

I mean, my opinion is that we live in a crypto communist government.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

You know, I mean, it's, it's, it's there, but it's hidden. That's why we were able to have Biden as president for, you know, four years and he's got mashed potatoes for brains. And still things do escalate and get worse. It's because of the unelected, you know, 30 year bureaucrats of basically put themselves in charge of our freedoms.

[D]

And they're not saving, like you said earlier, and just to just click them ahead, you know, save our democracy. It's. Why don't they say save? I mean, I know why they don't say save the democracy. The United Save the Night. You know what I mean? I don't want to get into it, but just as clicked like those f.

[A]

Well, we're going to get into it.

[D]

But you know what I mean?

[A]

It's like save the.

[D]

If they really care about saving anything, they should say the, the foundation. That's. I know we're not democracy, but, but instead of saying ours, they'd be like, save the. Save the country, not save our country.

[A]

It was the same thing in communist China, right? So Mao decided that there were. You had either a red personality or you had a black personality. If you were a property owner or if you were some kind of capitalist something. They, they said that you had a black personality. And they said that if you were actually a member of the Communist Party, you had a red personality and you could do things to go from a black personality to a red personality. But they would say things like they, as in the people with the black personality are after our democracy because according to communists, they would swear up and down that they're true, that they're a true democracy. Only communists are the true democracy. They do it all the time. And that was one of the things that Mao said they did in China all the time. They were like, they're after our democracy, Our democracy, but it's not theirs, right? Those people are included in our democracy. So when the democrats are saying our democracy, they're not including conservatives, they're not including people on the right, they're not including Trump voters. They're not part of our democracy. They are excluded from our democracy. And, and you can see it in the way that they behave. The people that are, are conservatives or right wing or Trump voters or whatever. They don't get the same protections that people in their democracy do. They are to be excluded. And it's, it's a, it's something that is, is again, typical of. Just like Chris said, it's typical of communist countries. There was one other point that I'll come back to that I wanted to. Once you said that there, we live in a crip, basically a crypto communist country right now. But I, it, I slipped my mind. So instead of dwelling on that, I'll.

[B]

Just, I'll just say this one last thing. Remember, like growing up, used to, we used to read about like Latin American countries, you know, like, you know, Noriega, where. Oh yeah, it was like, you know, he, he threw his, he threw his opposition in jail. Oh, he did this, he did that. You know, he's, he's being a dictator. How dare he go. And then it's like, okay, but you just finished doing the exact same thing. And they're like, oh, no. But that's different. You know that. That doesn't count. You know, it's okay.

[D]

He actually did something bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Actually did something wrong.

[A]

All right, we're going to jump to this story here. Semi truck driver arrested after making an illegal U turn on Florida highway, killing three people. Harjinder Singh, who authorities say had entered the US Illegally, has been charged with three counts of vehicular homicide. A man has been arrested in Florida after making an illegal U turn on a highway that resulted in a deadly crash that killed three people. Harjinder Singh, who authorities say has entered the U.S. illegally, has been charged with three counts of vehicular homicide. According to the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicle, state troopers responded to a crash on Florida's Turnpike in St. Lucie county on Aug. 12. The collision involved a minivan and a commercial semi truck and trailer. Based on initial investigations, the incident occurred after the driver of the commercial semi truck recklessly and without regard for safety of others, attempted to execute a U turn in an unauthorized location. The driver of the semi was later identified as Singh, who crossed the Mexican border illegally in 2018 and later obtained a commercial driver's license in California. As a result of his actions, the three occupants of the minivan are now deceased. State troopers obtained a criminal arrest warrant for the driver, Hardy are Singh for three counts of vehicular homicide. A press release stated the actions taken by the defendant while operating a commercial tractor trailer are both shocking and criminal. Are said Executive Director David Kern. Three people lost their lives as a result of this recklessness. And countless friends and family members will experience the pain of their lives lost forever. Look, this is emblematic of why conservatives and people on the right are so against not just having illegal immigrants, not just having the national. The national language be English, but also making sure that people that are here illegally can't get any kind of id like the state of California did this. They gave this guy a cdl, which in my. Not only did they give him a license, which would be bad enough, but it's a commercial driver's license. It blows my mind that this guy who's here illegally was able to do this. And, I mean, I've gone over my personal opinions of how we should deal with the illegal aliens in the country multiple times, but clearly this is not acceptable. These three people are dead and they don't, you know, there's no restart. You know, that's it because this guy not only was empowered by the state of California, but also because he's a who can't drive.

[D]

Yo, CDLs are big deal. Like you just can't get one. They're. If you go to school like I like I wanted to try for it when I was younger, you have to go to school. You got to get valid driver's license, clean record, medical pass, the thing, you know, go to air brakes. You know, you got to learn a lot of stuff. And this is. I don't know, I may go off a tangent here, but this is why I hate Newsom. This is why I hate these people. Like Democrats and landing to legals and three innocent American civilians. Citizens have died because they let this illegal alien come in and get a cdl and this driver in the road and he just killed people. And they do it a lot. They do more than they want to talk about. I couldn't find stats about how many illegals CDL drivers have killed people in general. But we had a couple years ago, we had the one guy going down the one hill and he couldn't. He didn't hit his brakes. There's lots of stories of folks driving CDLs and just in rape and murder and illegals, you gotta go off on a tangent and it's just disgusting. And we need to stop this.

[B]

I just can't get over how unbothered he was. Oh yeah. Over running over three people. It's like he's playing Grand Theft auto and, and he's just, you know, oh, oh, well. And let me just keep going. He was just completely unbothered. And if this is the type of person who is coming into the country and that California is giving CDLs to, God knows who else is out there driving around who isn't supposed to be here in the first place, but is transporting cargo. Like, you know, this guy, like he, he didn't even look. And then the guy in the passenger seat was just like, oh, well, like he's got his foot up.

[D]

You know, he's on Tick tock right now.

[B]

Yeah, he's. He's this guy. He's doom scrolling on Instagram right now. So, you know, it just shows how dangerous the. The poorest open southern border can be to the rest of the country in ways we haven't even thought of.

[C]

Will this be used against Newsom and when he's running officially and will it matter?

[D]

He'll try to, but nobody will care.

[B]

I don't think it's four years.

[A]

If this happened in the Summer before he got elected. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or before the. Before the. Yeah, but I think this is probably. I mean, someone might try. If he, if he does, you know, I imagine some, you know, political strategist or whatever would dig it up, but I don't know that it'll have traction.

[C]

This will be like a thousand years ago by the time we get there.

[D]

I know. I don't know why I couldn't find stats on how many illegal CDL drivers have killed people. They said there's 1500 people have died in the last year, but they don't. They know nothing about if they have, what their status is.

[A]

Yeah. Look, I mean, personally, I think that the. Again, the more we can do to make. Make it hard for illegals to stay here, the better. This company that, that actually employed him. Yes. They need to lose their. They need to lose their business. Whoever owns the business needs to. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

100 killed three people.

[D]

No, I understand.

[A]

They shouldn't. They should not have employed him. California shouldn't have given him a license. Right. But these people that employed him, the company, whoever runs the company should go to jail too, because he made that. He is responsible for this. He hired an illegal. Put him in, you know, try him and put him in jail. I don't know what, I don't know what. The accessory to murder, maybe. Yeah. You know, I'm not sure sure what the charge should be, but he should lose his business. He, like this should be. This, this company should be used as an example, like put the owner in jail, take away all of his property, auction it off and make sure that everybody in the country knows that the reason he's in jail as an accessory to murder is because he hired an illegal. Right. That put the. Obviously the driver should go to jail for the rest of his life. Right. I don't care. People are like, oh, you know, ship him back. No, put him in jail.

[C]

Alcatraz.

[A]

Yeah, put him. No, I mean, that's really for shipping people out. Put him in the real Alcatraz. Yeah. And put him in a. Like a real federal prison. Right. Not some kind of white collar thing in a real federal prison for the rest of his life. And they should use these people and this company as an example. You shouldn't be allowed. It shouldn't be okay to hire people that are illegal. Then one of the things that that dem. I agree with Democrats about, and they probably don't actually mean this, but they always say, well, you know, you should go after the companies that hire. Yeah, you should. 100%. Absolutely. And you should make it really brutal if they get caught hiring illegals, because the point of that, and the point of that is to make sure that they don't hire legals to make it. It too risky to make it not worth hiring illegals so that way illegals can't find jobs. And so that way illegals leave the country of their own volition so you don't have to have ICE going door to door rounding people up. The more difficult it is for illegals to live in the United States, the harder it is for them to find a place to live. You should take the property. If people are renting to them, take their property.

[D]

I love it.

[A]

See it, kid. You're renting to illegals. You know they're illegals. Well, we're taking your house.

[D]

You're up my alley.

[A]

We're taking your building because you rent it to illegals. You do that kind of stuff, and you'll see illegals leaving in droves. Because I can't find a place to live. I can't get a job because no one will hire me because I'm terror, because they're terrified the government will take.

[D]

My s. Let them know they're not wanted here.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Unless you come in the freaking right way.

[A]

Point is to make it too difficult for them to live here so that way ICE doesn't have to go and round people up. You don't have to see dudes in masks and with body armor grabbing people and throwing them on the ground so Karen doesn't get her hair all in a tiff. Right. So that way you just make it too difficult so these people, like, man, it ain't worth it. I can't find a job. Nobody will hire me. You know, you got to go to the US Legally if you're going to get a job. You got to get a green card. You got to come in legally, make it absolutely brutal if people hire them. Make it absolutely brutal if people rent to them. And this is the. This is as horrible as it is. This is the perfect opportunity to make an example of people. This guy goes to jail for the rest of his life. The owner of the company goes to jail for a long time as an accessory to merger murder. Take his company, take the whole thing, auction it off. There are a bunch of companies that'll buy his trucks.

[D]

Are you. Are you trying to be secretary, nomenclature, assistant?

[A]

I would never work for the government.

[D]

Okay. Just throwing it out there.

[A]

And I. I will say the N word on Maine before I work for the government.

[D]

I lied. It wasn't 1500. It was. It was 5900. About death for a big truck. So, Phil, I agree with everything. It was a 2022, his last stats. So it was a lot. It's a lot.

[B]

I agree with everything you said. However, California will fight tooth and nail to make sure that this. This guy's on his own. They will leave him out there in the cold, but they will fight tooth and nail to make sure that their illegals are protected and loved and taken care of, because that's their lifeblood.

[D]

So encountered and counted in the census.

[B]

And counted in the census and everything else.

[A]

Do you think that it's possible that there could be federal charges? Because I understand. I agree totally. Totally. California, there's a lot of states that'd be like, we're sanctuary cities. Sanctuary cities. And you know this better than most people. Sanctuary cities just means that the local law enforcement doesn't help the feds. So do you think that there's any kind of federal, there's any kind of possibility for the feds to pass a law that says you. That federally you go to federal prison if you. If. Well, because actually ICE should be able to do that, right? Like, if they hire illegals, that could be a federal offense. So, I mean, and because again, like I said, I totally agree with you about the states, but if you have the feds do the actual prosecution, right, they get arrested by federal agents, the FBI picks them up, and then they get. Then they get prosecuted federally by the doj, you can kind of circumvent the. The states, Right?

[B]

I think you run into a, A Fourth Amendment problem there. Just because. Only, only, like, like I said, bro, I agree with you, 100.

[A]

No, no, I'm.

[B]

I think you run into a problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because now you're, You're. How do you. How do you determine who's hiring illegals and who isn't? Beside, besides hanging out outside of a Home Depot and. And jumping out of the ICE truck and then you see them all scatter and. But if you go into a private business and you say, hey, do you have any legals working here? Do they have to hire you? I mean, do they have to. Do they have to answer you? I don't know. So I think you run into a potential problem there. Like, with me, I'm a constitutionalist, so I'm kind of just like, okay, like, as much as I want to do something, I don't want to set a bad precedent. But I mean, I, I just, I think that California will Do everything they can to protect their illegals because that's their lifeblood. Illinois will do everything they can to protect their legals. That's a. New York will do everything. Well, at least under Kathy Hochul.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Hopefully, you know something, but at least under Kathy Hochul, they'll do everything they can to protect, protect their illegals because that's their lifeblood. So they'll leave this guy out in the cold. They will turn into the biggest constitutionalist you've ever met in your life if you go after their legals.

[A]

I think that, I think you're, you're probably right, but I think that it would be worth trying and bringing to the Supreme Court to find out, you know, because maybe, maybe you do run into some kind of problem constitutional issue. But, but if they can, if, if the feds were just with the DOJ were to decide, well, we're gonna, we're gonna push this issue and see if we can get the SCOTUS on our side and get the SCOTUS to, to rule. That could be a way to do it. But I do think, I think your point, I think your point is well taken though.

[B]

I think if ICE wants to start doing investigations, okay. Like if the FBI wants to do an undercover op into which businesses are hiring illegals, which FBI, hey, listen, if you need someone who's got undercover sort of experience, I can help you out. Because, listen, Cash Patel, because listen, some of your agents really need help. I'm just letting you know, give me a call. But if they want to start doing undercover operations or just looking at which businesses might potentially be hiring illegals and do an operation that way so that they can have, they can go in there and do it legally and say, hey, Listen, we've caught 20 illegals in your business. So now we're opening an investigation into seeing what your hiring practices are. That I'm all for. But to just hang out outside of a business and, and just sort of pat down everybody who comes in, you're going to run into a problem.

[A]

Fair enough. I think your idea sounds great.

[D]

The fourth Amendment says private business businesses do not have absolute protection. Public facing businesses like a storefront or whatnot, they have very little protection. But when you have private business records, they have more protection than, than just the storefront, like accounting records in the office.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So it's all like case by case. Apparently. It's, they're treated, the courts treat business premises differently depending on the type of business and what is being searched. And I'm trying to look for People, but I didn't find any people illegals.

[B]

Listen, I, I would, I would love to, like, as you said, have illegals be scared to do anything in this country because they're like, listen, I'm illegal. I don't know what. I would love that. Listen, you come back, you do it the right way, we'll open the door for you. But while you hear illegally, listen, you should be afraid to walk down the street. And I'm all for that. I think you run into a problem.

[A]

You're probably right. I hadn't thought about that. You're probably right. But, you know, I think the, the big reason why I want to see this kind of stuff happen is because then you don't have all the protests against, you know, you don't have officers having to put hands on people having to fight with people having to deal with protesters. They'll just leave of their own volition. You don't have Karen out there screaming and hollering and getting in, in ice agents face and, and all of the dangerous things that come with, with interactions with crazy people in the public and police officers or in law enforcement. Right? Because, I mean, you know better than anybody else, when you have to actually deal with people, things can go bad and, and people get crazy, you know, like, yes, especially, I feel like, especially women because they think that they're like, they're like, oh, I can just push this guy around because, you know, he won't do anything because I'm a woman. And it's like, well, so anyways, I think now we are gonna go to super Chats, right? Yeah, we're gonna go to super Chats. So smash the like button, share the show with all of your friends. Tell everyone that you love Timcast.com or that you'd love Timcast IRL. Go on over to Timcast.com, become a member and join our Discord and then head on over to rumble.com and become a member so you can join the after show and call in from the Discord. Maybe you'll meet a girl in Discord and then you can have make, you know, make a family and have some babies and stuff. But right now we're gonna do some, some super chats.

[D]

It's a big selling point.

[B]

That was, that was a leap right there.

[A]

I think it's happened. People in the Discord get married. Like three or four couples got married. Yeah. And it is the. A regular occurrence where when people are having a baby, they will super chat and let us know that they just had a baby. Or they're about to have a baby. Their wife's in. In labor. In labor. So we're very pro baby around.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Like every day. Usually someone's like, yo, we're about to have a baby right now.

[B]

Nice.

[D]

It's pretty awesome.

[A]

Pro family, pro baby. All that good stuff. So Shane H. Wilder says prayers for Tim's recovery. I'm glad he's taking the time because I know how it is. The power through when you shouldn't. It sucks when you lose your voice, especially when it's how you make a living. It does. My buddy, my friend. It is awful. We were. We did a tour back in like 2008. We were doing a tour and my voice went out on me. It was a great tour. We were out within flames and we did two weeks of the tour and we had like another four left or something like that that I went to the doctor and the doctor's like, yo, you need to go home and you need. You can't talk for the next six weeks because they're like. If you're. If your vocal cords don't look different when you come back, when you go see another doctor, you have to get. Have a biopsy and make sure you don't have throat cancer. So it is.

[C]

Did you have a fill in or did you still have to fill in for.

[A]

No, man, I had to go home.

[C]

You filled in for a big band.

[A]

I filled in for Kill Switch Engage. I filled in for Five Finger Death Punch. Right, right. Yeah, it was great. Pictures at the same place that Taylor's at, the same arena that. That Taylor Swift played at like a week later. And the Metallica show had more people.

[C]

How would not talk about James Comey loving Taylor Swift today?

[A]

Look, man, James Comey is terrible, but, you know, everybody has one or two redeeming qualities.

[D]

Wait, Taylor Swift is a redeeming quality.

[C]

Oh, he likes Taylor Swift.

[D]

Oh, that's right. Gentlemen, I stare Holy moly. I like Taylor.

[B]

My door's a Swifty. And every now and again, I find myself humming something. I'm like, no, stop.

[A]

Those ears. Earworms, man. They get you.

[B]

No, stop.

[A]

All right. Jetty says, Phil, you are incorrect that Russia wants to take all of Ukraine. They would need a minimum of 5 million troops in country. There's zero chance they can do that. He said it, like when he did the. The Tucker Carlson interview. Like, maybe he didn't specifically say it, but he was talking about how Ukraine is actually where Russia comes from. The Kievan Rus and all. He went to that Big whole history thing. It may not be realistic, but I do think that it's, it's highly likely that Vladimir Putin would like to, if he could. So you can, you can say that, that, you know, you can say what you want, but I think that Putin has made, made it pretty clear that he wants to. I mean they drove a convoy. Like when he first invaded, he drove a convoy to Kiev because they were trying to grab Kia, take Kiev and didn't work out so well. So maybe they can't. Right. Maybe they couldn't do it. But to say that he doesn't want to, I think that's wrong.

[C]

So I'm gonna head out.

[A]

Oh yes.

[C]

Off to my show. See you guys. That was a really fun show seeing all you guys. We'll be live on YouTube and rumble at 10 o'.

[D]

Clock.

[C]

I'm gonna run there right now. Be out of breath when we start, but we'll take phone calls till midnight. It's gonna be a fun one and talk about pregnant robots in China and hear from you guys. So see you all next time.

[A]

Later, man.

[E]

Have a great show.

[A]

Yeah, I'll get home and, and it'll already on the TV. All right, cool. All right. Mac 12 says they are just trying to get away from the MSDNC moniker. I don't agree, man. I, I feel like they're, they're actually, they're failures. Yeah. But I mean look that they kind of laid out why they had to make the change in it, you know, so.

[D]

Because they're failures.

[B]

It's like I said, slapping the fresh coated paint. Yeah, the shed's still crumbling down but you just got fresh coated paint on.

[D]

It looks pretty, but the inside's rotted.

[A]

Philip Helms says. Hey Phil, I just wanted to give you a, give a shout out to you and Tim because y' all finally got off my lazy butt and started my first company at 24 up and beyond Toys. Just wanted to say thank you for motivating me to get after it. Congratulations. If you are a member of the Discord or if you're watching right now, go check out up and Beyond Toys. I'm assuming you could probably just google them up and Beyond Toys. But yeah, go ahead and, and support these, these fine young men that are starting businesses and, and grabbing a hold of their destiny.

[D]

Just real quick on the up and beyond toy. Sting Anime is big nowadays. It's huge. I guess. Apparently I've seen a News article that 1 in 3 people youngins watch anime and they pirate a lot of the anime they will pirate it, but then they'll buy products of the anime, and that's how anime makes their money. So up and beyond toys. Throwing it out there, you know, maybe make some up and beyond anime. Anime toys, you know, hot little chicks with, you know, waifus.

[B]

I was getting ready to say talk about families and making babies. You know, go to a couple of these anime conventions.

[D]

Oh, yeah, they make. They make.

[A]

They.

[D]

They make families. At the end of me.

[B]

They. They make families. All right. Even if it's just for a night, you make families.

[A]

All right.

[D]

Even if it's AI Jacob.

[A]

Holly says breaking. Texas Dems have returned to the Texas House after being forced by party leadership. Oh, good. They won't flee anymore and will vote on the next House map. They lost. How feckless. Sad girl. A spine Dems. Come on. What a win for the gop, though. I mean, I like the fact that the. That they're gonna have to vote on it. I mean, I would like to see Texas redistrict, and I would like to see more Republicans in Congress.

[D]

Didn't they just remember that last Thursday. They already passed it last Thursday, I thought past the redistricting. Even though they didn't come in. I thought that was the whole.

[B]

We had a whole conversation. They. They. They voted on it. They lost. And the Democrat, The Texas Democrats all got up and left, like in. In protest, and I think now it moves to the Texas Senate or something like that now. It moves up another step now, but, okay, basically, they won.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not sure the. The details on it, but. Yeah, look, man, I want to see redistricting. I want to see the Republicans do as much as they can to shut out Democrats as possible. If it's. If it's questionably legal, I'm fine with it.

[D]

Take the power and run with it. Right?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, look, when. When the. When the Republican or when the Democrats are in power, they will abuse the law. So if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

[D]

So my dad taught me.

[B]

And the best news is Jasmine Boquisha Crockett might lose her seat.

[D]

Right.

[B]

All the redistricting, so she'll probably move.

[D]

What was her middle name again?

[B]

Boquisha. That's. That's my nickname for shout out to everybody who follows me on next.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Jasmine Boquisha Fitz.

[A]

Hal Gailey says no need to conceive, concede territory. Putin didn't invade to own land. He invaded to gain the access. Owning it gives. DMZ it. Russia leaves, UA allows. Are you unfettered access through those regions to Crimea. Well, I mean, excuse me. Maybe, but I, I still think that, you know, I think that Putin actually wants to take. Take Ukraine and it's. The history is very deep there between Ukraine and Russia. And I think that Putin looks at Ukraine as part of Russia, even though they have different languages. I still think Putin's like, you're part of Russia, so we're just going to take it back.

[D]

Well, Keef was the capital forever. Like, I would imagine. I'd want it back too, if I was him.

[A]

The Kievan Rus, I guess, is where Russia came from. So. Okay. I don't know. I'm not extremely informed on Russian Ukrainian history, but. But I did watch the interview with. With Putin and, and Tucker. That Tucker did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So.

[D]

Because he went deep hardcore then.

[A]

Yeah, he. And he, he really wanted the opportunity to explain to an American audience and.

[D]

How dare Tucker the traitor. I'm just kidding, but you know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. Like, the point of him doing that, like, going into that history is because he wanted the American, you know, or English speaking, speaking audience to understand whether or not you believe. Believe what he says, you know, like, whatever. Like when it comes to his motivations. I mean, look, he's gonna lie. He's, you know, he's a KGB guy and nation states lie.

[D]

Probably.

[A]

What?

[D]

Probably Mossad as well.

[A]

I don't think it is.

[D]

I'm just saying, isn't everybody massage?

[A]

I mean, you know, that's what I'm hearing online.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

McBeefrod said day one listener and I haven't missed one yet. Yet. Oh, awesome.

[D]

Nice.

[A]

I love the show. But recently y' all started putting the clips in the full podcast playlist on. On YouTube. This is extremely annoying. Why the change? I have no idea. I don't either.

[C]

What do you say?

[D]

The full pot.

[A]

You've been started putting the clips in the full podcast playlist on YouTube. So the clips, you just gotta go.

[D]

To the Live then, bro.

[A]

No, no, I. Some of the, some of the playlists. I don't know why that is, but yeah, and I don't know help him out, but you have my deepest apologies. Yeah, I'm sorry that it's annoying.

[D]

I'll talk to blue sweater.

[A]

Oh, God, he doesn't do that either. Let's see. Well, I don't want to say that. Button. Button says Nome is further left than you think and politically savvy. He runs as a. As center every single time, then implements insane policy, works for moderates and progressives. Based on messenger. I mean, look, he's done that, but he's also in California or he's been, you know, he's been in California. How he would govern on a national level, I don't know, because like I said, I don't think that he's particularly ideological.

[B]

I mean, listen, all I need to hear is that Nancy Pelosi's his, His what? His auntie or something like that.

[A]

That is she.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Really?

[B]

His auntie is.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Somehow through a marriage. His answer.

[B]

Yeah. So, I mean, listen to me. It's more Pelosi crime family.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You know, Gavin Newsom, his politics are going to be whatever it needs to be.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

At the current moment, you know, you're a sec, you're a Second Amendment guy. Yeah. You know what? I love the Second Amendment. I want to protect it. I just want to do common sense things to make sure people are protected. And by the end of the conversation, you're like, he's not so bad. You know, so this, he's going to do whatever it takes to win.

[A]

Yeah. And then the policy is turn your AR15s in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's see, let's see. Kai says Trump may get this challenge on the courts and force mail in votes to be voided. Mail in votes were only legally allowed via courts and governor executive order order. Mail in votes are different from absentee. Look, man, I love the, I love that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, good.

[D]

No, I was gonna say that makes a lot of sense. Mail in compared to absentee. Whereas like the military and or folks on Medicare is a way different story. Absentee compared to mail in style. So, yeah, that's a great super chat. Makes sense.

[A]

Yeah, I, I, I agree. Let's see. Thanks, Phil. Yeah, he said, he said only the, the Kai says went on to say only the legislature at the how they vote. So it's true. Janet west says Trump tightened the economic screws on Russia. The European Tariff Agreement and the India tariff negotiation. Negotiation. Both main buyers of Russian oil. Yeah. I mean, the more pressure the Trump administration puts on Putin, the better for the possibility of, of a peace deal in Ukraine. But I don't know that, that enough can be done to actually make Russia stop their aggressive posture.

[D]

The first, first sanctions didn't do crap. They, they didn't do anything. Sanctions made no difference. They're fine. Ukraine or Russia's thriving. They're cool. So didn't make a difference.

[A]

Big Walt says continuing the Tim Cast tradition, sending my first super chat from the hospital recovery room with my first Son. Congratulations.

[B]

There we go.

[D]

Well done.

[A]

Like that's what we like to hear around here. We are very pro family now. Make more. More babies.

[D]

He might have like four daughters because he said my first son.

[A]

Fair enough.

[D]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Make more still. If I understand. Kids are awesome. So, you know, the more you have feels like happier people.

[D]

Three months away, right?

[A]

Two. Well, October, okay. End of October.

[E]

That's gonna be here before you know it.

[A]

I can't wait. The kid, like, it's already like the alien insider now. Yeah, yeah. It's always like, stuff's coming out. She's always like. Like what? She's like, he just kicked me. So. Yeah. Jason's guitar shed. Phil and crew. My son in law. My son in law died suddenly last Tuesday. He's an army vet of Iraq and Afghanistan. We have a GoFundMe for him. His name is Benjamin Mueller. Support our fallen. That's Benjamin M U L L E R. So if you guys, you got a little spare change, head on over to to his GoFundMe and help out where you can. And I'm sorry from. You know, on behalf of everyone around.

[B]

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[A]

We're really, really sorry to hear that, man.

[D]

Rest in peace, Benjamin.

[A]

Yeah, it's tough to lose a family member, especially. Especially someone that you know, young son in laws of young people. So sorry to hear it. Let's see. Taylor Cook says Kana is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Don't fall for it. I mean, yeah, Rokhan, I don't think there's a lot of people around here that are going to vote for him just to say.

[D]

But I don't know if he's a wolf and sheep and wolf's clothes or wolf and sheep's clothing. I think he's. Yeah, he's kind of authentic. I've watched him on more than I watched a bunch of Tim, a bunch of other podcasts. He feels like he's who he is, though he's not. Probably more left as people like Newsom.

[A]

Yeah. Lorenzo Greasy bottom says Phil is paid by the Jews. Tim is not Jewish. Tim is not Jewish. I Get a little bit of money from. Oh, wait a minute.

[D]

Oh, you are.

[A]

I got one of my tenants at my place in New Hampshire is Jewish, so technically I am paid by the Jews. Yeah, I am paid by. Paid by the Jews.

[D]

Truth comes out, ladies.

[A]

The other remains business manager is Jews, but he doesn't technically pay me. I pay him one Jew. So it's not one Jew.

[D]

Yeah, maybe a family of Jews is that you're.

[A]

Well, I mean, yeah, his. His dad's Jewish too. And yeah, his dad was the actual guy that we started with 20 some years ago. Oh, wow. Same business manager. He's really good.

[D]

So, yeah, family of Jews, ladies and gentlemen, Phil gets paid by.

[A]

That's right. He's the guy that. That sends my money from my business bank account to my bank account. I'm like, Nathan, send it on over. Let's see. Bryant Laws says, hey, Phil, we should also punish trucking companies who are corrupt and push illegals through violating the FMCA CSA Federal standards laws already on the books. Charge the DMV for fraud as well. I mean, look, man, DMV is a good call. I mean, like I said, like, all the things. All the things to make it hard for them to stay, I'm down with. So I'm. I don't even know what you're talking about. But if it'll make it harder for them.

[B]

You know, it is. Only reason I went done the right way is because the left would love to show that picture. You know, they already did it with. With, you know, kids crying and, oh, yeah, Trump is separating families. I don't want them to have that picture of now ICE agents standing outside of businesses leading people out, and they're like, look at that. They went into that business and. And went through everyone. And so I just. I want it done the right way. And. And then if it's done the right way, it's more permanent.

[A]

100. 100.

[D]

And I feel like we all want that because we don't want them to use that against exactly, you know, us.

[A]

All right, Trucker 2019 says, Phil, I'm a truck driver. Commercial driving is federal, not state level. That Indian who caused the accident is facing federal charges, not state level. Good, I'm happy to hear that. And I want the owner of the trucking company to face accessory to murder charges or, you know, whatever. I don't know what Bondi.

[D]

Are you listening to IRL right now?

[A]

You should be put. Put them in jail. Take away his company, take all his trucks and sell his trucks to his competitors. This other one right here. I like it.

[D]

Yeah, I like it.

[A]

It's got to be brutal. I like it. Brutal. Brutal. There is no reason for competitors.

[D]

Yeah, they're probably hiring illegals too.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Let's read this right here. Oh, let's see. Jonathan Foreman says I work as a diesel tech for trucks and trailers. I bet the company was out of somewhere near Chicago. Those companies hire Eastern Europeans in Indians all the time. Huh? Well, round them up, ship them out, beat it, take their, take their property, take their business, get out of here.

[D]

Sounds like AI trucks are going to be a thing now because we're going to do all the illegals.

[A]

Yeah, I mean I, I said something about that when I saw this. I was like, I can't wait till, you know, AI trucks are driving and this kind of stuff doesn't happen or happens less because look, I know that people are, are. There are people that are critical of AI and critical of, of self driving trucks. And there are people that got so mad at me, they're like some dude was like, oh, I can't wait till AI takes over making ATRs music, blah, blah. It's like, bro, what do you think happened to my industry when streaming came out 15 effing years ago? As soon as like you could get the Winamp player and people could pirate music. What's a lime wire and shit 25 years ago. So don't come at me like, oh, it's don't take my, my business. Screw you. That shit happened to me fucking 25 years ago.

[D]

But I do feel what that gentleman was saying because you know, truck drivers are, you know, the backbone of the economy.

[A]

If they're legals, it won't be for long.

[D]

Damn it. Sorry guys.

[B]

A lot lizards are gonna be, be out there protesting. You're gonna get killing our business.

[A]

Right? All right. Venus Palace 7 says big difference between California and LA. You're able to say NYC and not new York, but you all forgot that California is a big state with more conservatives than any other state. State. Don't lump us in with la. I, I feel you. And you have my apologies. You know, look, the part of the reason why people kind of assume that it's all Democrats in California is because of the fact that they've had a Democrat government. You know, their, their House and Senate or whatever their, their state versions of that are. And they've had Democrats in office forever and they always vote for Democrats in the national elections and all of those things are, are probably why people make those assumptions. So but you do have my apologies. I'm aware that there are a lot of Republicans out there that hate the fact that they're lumped in.

[B]

Listen, I get it. As a New Yorker, I. I completely understand. And I live in a very red county in a very red town, so I get it. However, it's still your state, so you gotta eat it. It. Yeah, I. I hear when they talk about New York and they're like, oh, you need to cut off New York from rest of the country. Listen, I get it, but you gotta eat it.

[A]

Yep. Yeah. Last one. IG Bales says don't forget that Newsome is Pelosi's nephew. That is who he learned everything from. Look, Pelosi's an extremely talented political animal as well. She wouldn't have stayed in office for as long as she did and she wouldn't have. She was the speaker. Like, she is extremely talented. So if she was teaching him, he learned from one of the best. But right now, I want you to smash the like button. Share the show with all of your friends. Head on over to rumble.com and become a member so you can join us for the after show. Head on over to Timcast.com and become a member there so you can join our Discord. Discord. And call into the show. Zeke, do you have. Would you like to shout anything out or tell people where they can find you?

[B]

Sure. You can find me on Instagram. Zeke Arkham. Z E E K A R K H A M. You can find me on X. Same handle. And I just opened up a Tick Tock account because I have more people I want to piss off so you can find me over at Tick Tock Real. Zeke Arkham. And that's it. Thanks again for having me on, guys.

[A]

Thank you for coming out.

[D]

I hope you get to piss off a lot more people, my friend. Good luck to that. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Find me Raymond G. Raymond Stanley. Everywhere in the world I'm on the Internet. I work here. I love life in America. Let's go team. Mr. Chris Carr.

[E]

What's up, Chris? Car 17 on X.

[A]

Come follow me. I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. Our new record is called Anti Fragile. You can check it out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime. And stick around for the after show and we will see you tomorrow. Sa marketing is hard, but I'll tell you a little secret. It doesn't have to be. Let me point something out. You're listening to a podcast right now and it's great. You love the host. You seek it out and download it. You listen to it while driving, working out, cooking, even going to the bathroom. Podcasts are a pretty close companion. And this is a podcast ad. Did I get your attention? You can reach great listeners like yourself with podcast advertising from Libsyn Ads. Choose from hundreds of top podcasts offering host endorsements, or run a pre produced ad like this one across thousands of shows. To reach your target audience in their favorite podcasts with Libsyn Ads, go to libsynads. Com. That's Libsyn ads.com today.