Trump CERTIFIED As 2024 Victor, Democrat Judge UPHOLDS Trump Sentencing w/Lectern Guy

Summary

Timcast IRL: Trump CERTIFIED As 2024 Victor, Democrat Judge UPHOLDS Trump Sentencing w/Lectern Guy Release Date: January 7, 2025
Host: Tim Pool, Timcast Media

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1. Certification of Trump as 2024 Victor
Timestamp: [00:06]

The episode opens with Tim Pool announcing a historic moment in American politics: Donald Trump has been formally certified as the victor of the 2024 presidential election, making him one of the few presidents to serve non-consecutive terms. Kamala Harris made history by being the first woman to certify her own presidential defeat.

Tim Pool: "It's the first time ever that a woman has certified her own presidential defeat. And that's Kamala Harris, and we're all here for it."

2. Legal Troubles and Sentencing of Trump
Timestamp: [05:04]

Despite the certification, legal battles loom as Democrat Judge Marshan from New York has upheld Trump's sentencing, set for January 10th. There is speculation about whether Trump might face prison time before inaugurating, raising concerns about the implications for his presidency.

Tim Pool: "They're saying he's not gonna get any prison time or anything like that, but who knows?"

3. Justin Trudeau’s Resignation and Canada’s Political Turmoil
Timestamp: [37:34]

The podcast delves into international politics with Justin Trudeau’s resignation as Prime Minister of Canada, attributed to pressure from Donald Trump’s tariff threats. This move has destabilized the Canadian Liberal government.

Tim Pool: "Trump is winning and he's not even president yet."

4. Immigration Policy and H1B Visa Debate
Timestamp: [25:06]

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the H1B visa program and its impact on American jobs. The guests argue that the system is being exploited by large tech companies, leading to the outsourcing of skilled labor and undermining American workforce development.

Adam Johnson: "It's. And I will tell you the clout he will have going into prison. They're not going to mess with him."

5. Social Media Regulation and Tencent Designation as Chinese Military Company
Timestamp: [64:06]

Tim Pool addresses the U.S. government's designation of Tencent as a Chinese military company, causing significant stock drops and raising concerns about ownership stakes in major tech firms like Riot Games, Epic Games, and Snapchat. The implications for U.S. companies with ties to Tencent could lead to forced divestments and a reshaping of the social media landscape.

Phil Labonte: "That's crazy news. I don't know. I don't know if I know enough about Tencent to actually properly comment on this."

6. Cultural Critiques and Movie Discussions
Timestamp: [49:24]

The hosts critique contemporary films for perceived woke elements, such as the movie "Blink Twice," which they argue imposes liberal social narratives into storytelling. They express frustration over the integration of political correctness into entertainment.

Tim Pool: "It's really annoying when right in the middle, it's like, hey, we have a plot hole."

7. Supreme Court and Obergefell v. Hodges Discussion
Timestamp: [75:09]

A critical analysis of the Supreme Court's stance on same-sex marriage is presented, with predictions that the Court might overturn Obergefell v. Hodges, returning the decision to individual states. The discussion highlights the potential for a "slippery slope" in legal precedents affecting various licensing and rights issues.

Tim Pool: "So the environment from this point forward in the Supreme Court is very likely to overturn Obergefell under the guise of licensing."

8. Podcast Expansion and Physical Locations
Timestamp: [110:05]

Tim Pool shares plans to expand Timcast IRL into physical locations, such as coffee shops that double as venues for live shows and community gatherings. These spaces aim to blend everyday activities with real-time news and discussions.

Tim Pool: "We want to open physical locations so that when you go to... some salon, they're going to be like, come into our Casper location and engage with real news."

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Notable Quotes:

• Adam Johnson [03:37]: "You've got 34 felonies, you're going to jail. It sends Trump to prison. Now, it happens. I really doubt it, but who knows?"

• Richie McGinnis [07:50]: "What if he did the oath from prison and then he pardoned himself from prison?"

• Phil Labonte [14:41]: "I honestly think that they're limited in what they can get away with because of the resounding victory for the right."

• Tim Pool [32:05]: "We outsource our jobs and kill culture. And then when they grow up, what do they do?"

• Adam Johnson [46:30]: "The publishing is even dumber than news, as I've learned."

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Conclusion:

The episode of Timcast IRL navigates through a turbulent political landscape marked by Donald Trump's electoral victory and ongoing legal challenges, the destabilization of Canadian politics, debates over immigration and labor policies, and significant shifts in the tech and social media sectors. The hosts blend political analysis with cultural critiques, emphasizing the deep divisions and rapid changes shaping contemporary society. Plans for expanding into physical community hubs signal an attempt to foster direct engagement and real-world discourse among listeners.

Transcript

[Tim Pool]

It is January 6th, ladies and gentlemen, and on this day, Congress has formally certified Donald Trump as the victor of the 2024 election. It's the first time ever that a woman has certified her own presidential defeat. And that's Kamala Harris, and we're all here for it. Interestingly, however, that Democrat liberal judge over in New York says either way, Trump is to be sentenced on the 10th. This is where things get interesting. Now they're saying he's not gonna get any prison time or anything like that, but who knows? What if Trump shows up for sentencing and that judge just says, Change my mind? 34 felonies, you're going to jail. Sends Trump to prison. Now, it happens. I really doubt it, but who knows? Trump filed to have this stayed or quashed effectively, and the judge said, nah, we're gonna sentence you. So I guess we're in for a very interesting week. And then Justin Trudeau resigned. And here's what people are picking up from this story. I mean, he's still Prime Minister. He announced his resignation pending the Liberal Party's election of a new leader, but he did it because of Trump. Trump threatening these tariffs threw the whole liberal government of Canada into chaos. And now Trudeau's out. So Trump is winning and he's not even president yet. We'll talk about that. Plus, we got a bunch of weird stories about we gotta talk about the drone thing and Las Vegas. You know, it's our first day back after vacation, and we had this crazy thing in Vegas. This guy sent an email to Sean Ryan about gravitic propulsion drones. It's all just very weird. So we'll talk about that. And then, yeah, we're going to go for it. There's this story from the New York Post that the vaccine caused this woman's boobs to grow massively. And I think we'll need some levity for this one, but we'll talk about that. I mean, it's probably. It's probably horrifying for the woman, but we'll talk about all that. Before we get started, my friends, head over to cast brew.com. pick up cast Brew Coffee. We have delicious coffee. We have two weeks till Christmas. Phil Labonte's gingerbread coffee. It's delicious, but it's now two weeks from Christmas. And then, of course, we've got Appalachian Nice Nights rise with Roberto Jr. Stand your grounds. And also, don't forget to head over to boonies hq.com pick up one of our beautiful skateboards if you like the boobies. We have this Blue footed booby on a skateboard. This is our second most popular skateboard. It's a blue footed booby bird and everyone finds it to be very funny for some reason. I love it. And then we got the right to arm bears. The oft forgotten attempted amendment to the Bill of Rights that didn't make it was the right to give bears guns. So if you think bears should wear straw hats, flannel shirts and carry shotguns, this is the skateboard for you. But don't forget also to head over to timcast.com become a member. As a member, you make all this possible. You will also get access to our Discord server where you can hang out with like minded individuals. There's pre shows after shows. There's a members only uncensored show Monday through Thursday that you can hang out at. And as a member, call in and talk to us and our guest. If sign up for 10 bucks, you get access to the basic channels. But you got to wait six months until you can actually submit to calling the show. And the reason is we get a lot of people trying to screw with us, trying to come in and cause problems, and they do. But there's a. There's another option. If you sign up for 25 bucks, you jump the line. I know it sucks. It's either a time gate or a money gate. We had to create some kind of balance because we do get a lot of haters trying to come in. Just disrupt everything. But go to timcast.com click, join us. Become a member and you make this show possible. And we're eternally grateful. But also, don't forget to smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel right now. Share the show with everyone you know joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We have two veterans on two different sides of January 6th. First, it is the man himself. It is Lectern Guy.

[Adam Johnson]

Hey, Tim. Good to be back. Happy January 6th. To all who celebrates, it's Patriots Day. I am here to establish an alibi. I've been here all day. I moved nothing, touched nothing. So leave me alone, bro.

[Tim Pool]

You have a real name though.

[Adam Johnson]

I do. My real name is Adam Johnson. My Christian name.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, yes, yes, yes. Now dubbed the Lectern Guy. At first they were calling you the Podium Guy.

[Adam Johnson]

They were this and via Getty. But we corrected the record.

[Tim Pool]

Via Getty is my favorite.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes. I mean. Oh God. Twitter 1.0.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, those are the days, huh? Well, we also have a man who was there on the ground in a different capacity.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yes, I was on the ground as a credential journalist, so I didn't have the same legal troubles. I did hear we have an insurrectionist in our midst today. So I decided to deck myself out in some protective.

[Tim Pool]

Just in case.

[Richie McGinnis]

Just in case. Richie McGinnis, author of Riot Diet One Man's Radical Ride Through America in Chaos. And got some wild stories in there. January 6th maybe is the craziest. I don't know. I'm not sure.

[Tim Pool]

And we thought it was appropriate to have you both on this day. It's an honor.

[Richie McGinnis]

An honor. Can I be your lectern?

[Adam Johnson]

I will carry you like one of my French girls. Yes.

[Richie McGinnis]

Make it work.

[Tim Pool]

Well, okay. We got some news on January 6, of course, Merrick Garland issued a statement where he said five cops died in the line of duty, which is just an egregious lie. These people are out of their minds. We'll talk about that. We also got Phil hanging out.

[Phil Labonte]

Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist in the counter revolutionary. Let's go.

[Tim Pool]

Let's jump into the big news, ladies and gentlemen. History was made. Donald Trump becoming, I think it's only the second president to have two non consecutive terms. Now, he hasn't been in. He's not been inaugurated or sworn in, but he has been officially certified as president. Kamala Harris oversaw the certification, making her the first woman to certify her own loss in a presidential race. And I. There's very few people who have done that. I think Nixon broken Al Gore. Absolutely. So, you know, Al Gore did. Nixon did. I'm not sure how many others, but the first woman.

[Adam Johnson]

First black woman.

[Tim Pool]

That's right. Or Asian, depending on how you want to phrase it.

[Phil Labonte]

Depending if you're in the UK or the US Talking about it.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Adam Johnson]

Depending if you want a visa or not.

[Tim Pool]

Or you can call her Jamaican. She checked a lot of boxes. She's the first of a lot of things to fail. So congratulations, Kamala, but we don't need dunk on her. Let's get to the meat and potatoes of this story. Judge Marshan denies Trump's request to delay sentencing. This is where things get weird. I'd love to sit here and we'd crack open champagne and be like, ha, ha, look, hey, January 6th came and went, and Trump has been certified. But Trump is to be sentenced. I'm assuming he's got to report to New York City as President elect certified in a joint session to Congress. He's going to go before this judge who says, you know, he's not going to give him prison time, but could very well give him prison time. I'll just say this. So Trump files saying we should quash this. Quote, defendants motion for a stay of these proceedings, including the sentencing hearing scheduled for January 10th is hereby denied. This is interesting. Trump is trying to prepare to be president right now. He's got a transition going on. They're trying to whip the votes to get his, his nominees confirmed and now they're still trying to obstruct him. I got to say guys, I don't think they're just going to roll over and give up. They the certification process went without a hitch. No Jamie Raskin trying to insurrection or anything like that. There were protests and then all of these liberal opponents come out and they say, see we are honorable. But then they do things like this. Don't tell me, don't. You're not going to convince anybody that this judge Mershan is not a Democrat operative. You know, I don't mean that literally. Working for Democrats. I'm saying he is of the political persuasion that is aligned with Democrats to help them out. They're not going to stop here. But what do you think happens? Trump goes to prison on, on Friday. Slow. It's a Friday. It's where they go to kill news.

[Adam Johnson]

Old move, Cotton. I mean this is the elected president. We, we came in, we said want this guy to, for them to put him into prison at this point after all of this, it wouldn't shock me if that was the move. We saw the first four years of his presidency and they threw the book at him. We went through Covid, went through lies, Russiagate. It would not shock me to see them put him in prison for 12 days.

[Richie McGinnis]

What if he did the, what if he did the oath from prison and then he pardoned himself from prison?

[Tim Pool]

He can't pardon a state level charge.

[Richie McGinnis]

He can't.

[Tim Pool]

Nope.

[Adam Johnson]

Nope.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. I thought raining on your parade over here.

[Richie McGinnis]

I thought he was God emperor.

[Tim Pool]

Only federal charges. Only federal. But a lot of people are pointing out that you can be sworn in from anywhere. And like was it Reagan, he was sworn in on a plane or something like that. That I think that'd be based.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, you can be, you don't have to be sworn in at a specific location. It just has to be. I'm not sure who the actual person doing the swearing and I'm not sure if it's, if it has to be by an official, by a specific person that's in the federal government or if it's just someone that represents.

[Tim Pool]

Google it.

[Phil Labonte]

The government.

[Tim Pool]

Wouldn't it be crazy if Trump is sentenced to prison and then he's in prison and they swear him in as president, but he's still in prison.

[Richie McGinnis]

But what would he. Yeah, you can't go to the Capitol. So how does that work?

[Tim Pool]

They can swear. Apparently you can be sworn in from anywhere.

[Adam Johnson]

You could email in prison. You can still get some things done behind bars. And I will tell you the clout he will have going into prison. They're not going to mess with him. It's going to be very hard to get with him. He will have a lot of power there. Yeah, people. No, I mean, we can pardon anyone apparently at this point. So there's.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, right. They're going to be like, hey, I got a homie on federal charges, yo. Pardon him. Exactly. You're going to leave them alone.

[Phil Labonte]

There's no one that, there's no one that has to do the swearing in. There's Constitution doesn't specify anyone. Usually it's Chief justice of the US Supreme Court, but it doesn't have to be anyone in particular. So it could be just. I suppose anyone could say, okay, take.

[Adam Johnson]

Karen from Home Goods.

[Richie McGinnis]

The warden. Yeah, the warden gives him the.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, people are saying it was Lyndon Johnson when Kennedy was shot. Yeah, there you go. That makes sense. Sworn in on a plane. Yeah, I get that. Extenuating circumstances.

[Richie McGinnis]

But Kennedy was shot. Why'd you use the passive voice there? Who shot, who shot. Who shot him?

[Phil Labonte]

It's in the past.

[Adam Johnson]

Because passive for some of us.

[Richie McGinnis]

He was shot. He was by, by a, a gun. Who, who shot him?

[Tim Pool]

He was shot.

[Richie McGinnis]

Was it Lee Harvey? No, I, I, I, I'm asking, I'm, I'm, I'm seriously asking. Do you think, who do you think shot Kennedy?

[Phil Labonte]

Who do I think? Yeah, I do think that it was Lee Harvey Oswald among the people shooting.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. Ron Paul. We did a, I don't even think.

[Richie McGinnis]

He was in the book deposit.

[Tim Pool]

Ron Paul said his CIA did it.

[Richie McGinnis]

That's correct.

[Adam Johnson]

That's six.

[Phil Labonte]

That's what I understand.

[Tim Pool]

Who didn't. Didn't Rand say that too? Yeah, and then RFK Jr. Said it. But there's, there's, and that one's the real weight. When like RFK Jr. Is like, actually, I don't know if Rand said wasn't there, Wasn't there.

[Phil Labonte]

Wasn't there paperwork or something like that. Really. Released recently that said that implicated that the CIA was involved, at least I don't let me. I'll Google that to see they can't.

[Tim Pool]

We got a super chat. Joe is saying the swearing, it has to be done by a judge. By a judge. So here we go. We got this. We'll read a little bit more from this story. They say today, President Trump's legal team moved to stop the unlawful sentencing in the Manhattan DA's witch hunt. The Supreme Court's historic decision on immunity, the state constitution of New York and other established legal precedent mandate that this meritless hoax be immediately dismissed. Trump spokesperson Steve Chung told Fox the American people elected Trump with an overwhelming mandate that demands an immediate end to the political weaponization of our justice system and all of the remaining witch hunts. We look forward to uniting our country in the new administration. You know, look, there's this clip on CNN where Scott Jennings gets told to zip it by that bold and whatever her name is. I don't know her name. And I'm just thinking, like, for one, like, who cares, because nobody watches cnn. But. But on this show, she asks Scott specifically, like, how come so many people won't acknowledge how bad January six was? And then Scott plays this like, I'm going to be nice to cnn and goes, well, you know, some people have acknowledged it and I'm sitting here being like, yeah, the voters did when they Trump, they acknowledged that they didn't care.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So. So here's my advice to all of you. When anyone at any point, your, your cousin, your aunt, whatever, your friend says, how come Republicans don't denounce January 6th when. When the Krasnsteinstein's tweeted, you say, we all acknowledge January six by electing Donald Trump. That's how little we care about this nonsense you're screaming about.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah. When I was shopping around my book originally with publishers and agents, they're telling me Trump was old news and that he was. This is two years ago.

[Tim Pool]

They told you he was old news?

[Richie McGinnis]

And he told me it's old news.

[Tim Pool]

And it was. It's over.

[Richie McGinnis]

He's not gonna make it through the primary. Yeah. I said, all right, I'll start at my own publishing company. Thank you very much.

[Tim Pool]

Wow. Boy, that was dumb.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yes. That's. The publishing is even dumber than news, as I've learned.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. I mean, they're looking like, when it comes to books, it could be a book with just every page says, buck, buck, buck, buck, buck, so long as the COVID sells. You know what I mean?

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yep.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, Michael Knowles had the book Right. It was reasons to vote Democrat. It was blank inside.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. There are no reasons I should have.

[Richie McGinnis]

Come up with that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I think, I think we got a mandate on election day on November 3rd. That's it. Nobody cares about January 6th. Here we are and we're pretty much over it. But I'm curious if you guys think that there's gonna be any other plays outside of this. There are fears about assassination attempts, things like that. Like, are they gonna let Trump just become president and get his agenda through?

[Adam Johnson]

So I've been here a couple times in the interim between January 6 and today and I have said I don't think they're gonna let him run. And then he won the election, but they shot him in between. That thing did happen.

[Tim Pool]

Horrible.

[Adam Johnson]

That thing did happen. And I'm looking at this and this, this is kind of the death throes we're seeing from the media. They're not done. And I think that even if you sworn in, they're not going to stop. We're going to see four more years of this. And I wonder, we saw the playbook last time. I am genuinely worried about what comes next.

[Phil Labonte]

So I, I honestly think that they're, they're limited in what they can, what they will be able to get away with because of the fact that it was such a resounding victory for the right generally. Right. You've got, and it's not just here in the US like the, the writing's on the wall for Trudeau. You've got right wing parties all over Europe are gaining favor with their, with their respective countries. I think that people are tired of the left's narrative, which is our democracy or our way of life is threatened by these people that have a different perspective on politics. And I think that the reason why, I think that's the reason why you see all the, the, these right leaning parties gaining, gaining favors because people are tired of it. So I don't think that there's, I think you're right in that people on the left still would love to be able to do something, but I think that they don't have as much ability because people are tired and they're not listening to the left as much anymore.

[Tim Pool]

Right. I don't know. The CNN thing was funny to me because they're still trying to play this game of both sides. And they had on Bakari Sellers who just lied and said there's no U.S. troops. Trump's inheriting a government with no U.S. troops overseas in a combat zone. And then Scott Jennings Mentions like there are. And then she stops him from getting into the details. We have 2000 troops in Syria. How could, like, how could you have a dude go on TV and just lie like that? I gotta tell you, we had that dude Luke on couple weeks ago.

[Phil Labonte]

Luke Beasley.

[Tim Pool]

Luke Beasley and everybody, that was fireworks. Everybody loved that clip. And I'm like, look, we debated about like left wing and right wing violence. And I'll, and I'll tack this one on. He's coming back because he's, he's, he's a good dude.

[Richie McGinnis]

Look, I mean, props to him for.

[Tim Pool]

You know, he's coming back, he's going to be in town. He said he'd love to come back and do more. We have another show planned in like a week or two, so it'll be fun. But the problem with the left, right wing violence thing is that the left is a cult where as long as you adhere to their social order, you are leftist and everyone else is right wing. So when they say like the right wing is more violent, it's like, dude, you're comparing like some bitcoin libertarian tech guy in San Francisco to a and claiming he is part of the same ideological faction as a shaved head, tattooed neo Nazi who lives in the wilderness of Appalachia. Like two completely different worldviews with no relation whatsoever. And you're like, right wing violence. I'm like, yeah, you can't compare these two people. Like a middle aged, overweight day laboring Trump supporter who wants to watch a game of football and order a slice of pizza votes for Trump and it's called right wing. And then they say you're violent because some unhinged racist guy killed someone in a church. And it's like, but this guy doesn't share any values. That other guy, the left, specifically, these people all have an overlapping adherence to their social orthodoxy. That's what we'll criticize.

[Phil Labonte]

That's a good point. The fact that the left is defined as narrowly as possible. When the left is talking about left wing violence and the right is defined as broadly as possible.

[Richie McGinnis]

And antifa is by design. If you walk up to somebody at a protest and you're like, yo, are you antifa? They're not gonna say yes. So it's by design, a flat hierarchy similar to the terrorist cells that operate around the world. And you know, it's easy to, you know, like spot a proud boy because of their brain.

[Tim Pool]

And Democrats, I've been on the ground and I've seen these black bloc types we call Them antifa. They have different views. They do, but they fight together. So it's like when you see a tanky, you know, like a communist Soviet style, like, we should control everything. And then you see a radical, you know, they call themselves anarchists, but they're not, they're extremely violent, but they don't, they'll tell you, oh, we don't like the tankies, we don't like the communists. And I'm like, you are wearing the same clothes as them, standing next to them and fighting together, bro. You're not going to, you're not going to pull a fast on me. I'm sorry, dude. Like, you guys fight together, you can, you can argue all day and night, but once again, they try to make that claim that some like, anarcho capitalist tech guy who buys a bunch of bitcoin is comparable to a neo Nazi. They're two completely distinct things.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, my, my complaint is that they, they, they called me a cult. I'm in a cult. Right, but no one eats the right more than the right. We bury each other on a daily basis. We call each other out, we're honest. We actually have our convictions and we, we speak about them.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, the whole, look at the whole. Yeah, the H1B.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah, I mean, that was, everybody was, you know, decrying like, oh, like, you know, this is the right is eating itself, like you said. But I view that as actually having a conversation about immigration that has been, you know, tabled for 30, 30 years.

[Tim Pool]

But it wasn't even the right, really. It was the disaffected liberals who joined maga, many of them arguing with maga. MAGA has always been immigration critical to a great degree. Like Milo tweeted out, 20 year moratorium on immigration. And I'm like, yeah, I've heard that from a lot of Trump supporters. That's not surprising. And then it's the Elon types who are former liberals who voted for Trump because of wokeness, who are saying, no, we're for H1B. And it's like, right, this is now the reckoning between the dispected liberal types and the conservatives.

[Adam Johnson]

I don't want to play World Police, I don't want to play World bank, and I definitely don't want to play world refugee camp. And my thought has always been, get your house in order. And until our house is in order, maybe we stop playing world refugee camp.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, my view, it's really funny because there's like this meme going around that said, I like to find a team Elon and Team usa and they put me in Team Elon. And I'm like, I'm telling you guys, a lot of it was bot farming. Was. It was a bot attack. And, and people got mad at me for saying that the censorship attacks against Elon were. Appeared to be an op. And I'm not wrong. I'm not saying there's no real sentiment against him, but people who are really stupid can't understand this. So, like, all these, like, people on X start tweeting at me being like, you're wrong. It's not enough. I actually believe this. And I'm like, dude, when there's an opinion that exists, of course there are people who actually believe it. When, when bot accounts start tweeting generic racist things that kill the argument against H1B, it looks like an op. And so me coming out and saying it looks like an app, the, they. The bot farms instantly put me in the Elon camp, despite my opinion on opinion on H1B being, yeah, we should suspend it and reform it because it's broken. But they don't know how to address that because they're not real people.

[Richie McGinnis]

Well, it's nuance. That's. That's a tough thing.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I can't handle it.

[Richie McGinnis]

Well, plus, like nowadays, like, what even is because, like, I'm pro free speech and anti war. That would have made me a left winger 15 years ago. But now, you know, as the sands are shifting, as the paradigm is shifting, the definition of what these boxes are is completely changing. Like, I have to write no neo con.

[Tim Pool]

I'll tell you that left and right are easily defined. The right is anybody who watches the news and has a general understanding of what's happening. And the left is people who either know or don't, but either way just adhere to their social orthodoxy.

[Richie McGinnis]

See, that's the interesting thing though, is that the, the left is supposed to be the opposite of an orthodoxy. There was, you know, the parties have flipped. Like, liberal and progressive are two different things.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, well, that's, that's one of the things that I, that I try to articulate frequently here. The idea of a progressive is different than a liberal. Now I don't feel like I get a whole lot of traction because people on the right and conservatives have gotten so accustomed to calling Democrats liberals.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah, exactly.

[Phil Labonte]

That, that the, the argument that, hey, Democrats and progressives are not the same thing as a liberal, a liberal looks at liberty first, blah, blah. You can make that argument until you're blue in the face, but if people aren't listening. People aren't listening. And I, that's one of the things that I, I feel like people just, they're, they, they're so used to calling Democrats liberals. Thank you, Rush Limbaugh in the 90s, because he's the one that did it. But that's, that was just. They, that word has become so radioactive with, with the conservatives that you can't really.

[Tim Pool]

Here's, here's, here's the meme. This was the H1B debate. Team USA versus Team Elon. And they put me in Team Elon. And this is really funny because I say, like, when I say it's bot accounts. Here's, here's what it means, okay, When I come out and say, hey, it looks like there's a, an op happening against Elon to try and make Elon and MAGA fight. Because that's been a narrative for months now. And what did we get? People were tweeting like, Elon and Trump know there's a campaign against them. They're not going to fall for it. But then as soon as the H1B thing happens, all of a sudden everybody's falling for it. But my point was specifically that there were brand new accounts, accounts that had opened up only in the past month. People had started. Screenshot is pointing it out. They were posting insanely racist things. I think Elon took the bait. He said, oh, these racists are going to be bad for the Republican Party. And I said, yeah, we can't, I tweeted, we can't allow fringe identitarianism basically destroy the Trump movement and, or MAGA or whatever. And there's an op. And then I went on this tirade about actually going into H1B. How I'll put it this way, H1B, for those that don't know it's supposed to be, hey, my company can't find the skilled enough worker for my company. I have no choice but to hire from insert other country 85, 000 per year. But that's not what it is. Patrick bet David got called out because apparently he had an application for, I think it was a graphic designer for $41,000 a year or something like that. Was that what it was, was a graphic designer? I don't know.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm not in the weeds that deep.

[Tim Pool]

But he got called out for it. I don't think he really addressed it. He just said, hey, look, you know, like, we hire a lot of people and stuff like that. And that's not what H1B is supposed to be for.

[Richie McGinnis]

And it's a lottery, too, so.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Richie McGinnis]

Like the argument that, oh, we're getting the top.01%. It's like, how do you get that through a lottery? And I went through that with an employee when I was working at the Daily Caller. And, you know, we went for the H1B, didn't get the lottery. And then we got the O1 extraordinary person's visa, which is a way higher bar. And the lawyers were like, this probably isn't going to work, but if you're really that talented, then you can make your case. But the H1B is literally, hey, throw my. Throw my ball into there and see if it comes out in the lottery. So how do you get getting the top point.01% from that?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I think H1B is. Is total BS. It's been abused by big tech. They blast the H1B lottery with as many applications as possible, so they end up getting almost all of them. And then what ends up happening is the reason why I'm. I think hood B is fine in the concept. In concept, but it's not how it's actually brought about. The problem is if we as a nation and all of our companies keep saying we don't think the American people are driven enough and have the work ethic to do the job, so we have no choice but to hire someone else. You're gonna bring some dude from India, from China, from wherever. They're gonna come take the job. They're gonna have kids. Those kids are gonna grow up in a diseased culture where they develop the same as every other American. Lazy and incompetent, as these people argue. I'm not saying they are. And then what's gonna happen in 20 years? They're gonna go, ugh, once again, all these Americans are too lazy, and we have to hire from China or India. And then the children of H1B recipients are being raised in a culture where they don't learn work ethic and they don't succeed. There's only one solution. Shut down H1B and require American companies to invest in Americans. And if you're upset because you're like, yeah, but American workers are lazy, then you got to find the best of the best, the cream of the crop. And you have to work with them and train them and develop this. We have to reform this culture. We're not going to. We're not going to import our way out of cultural decline.

[Adam Johnson]

I look at it from an altruistic standpoint, right. The idea that these countries are the People are fleeing them, coming here because there's opportunity, right? They're brought over with opportunity. These countries not emerged and they're coming here because their countries have not. The ultra side of me says if we're scalping the best and the brightest, they will never have their moments, right? These people have to take the way out of a hole and we're taking their best shovelers. Me. What I think is let them stay there, let them develop their own countries, let them have the revolutions. Build your own thing. And in the meantime we can build our own thing. And wouldn't that be the best thing for everyone to be self sufficient, not rely on foreign aid? A disaster happens. Sure, we can come together, we can help some country that was riddled with a earthquake or tsunami or whatever, but in the meantime, fix your own homes.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, I mean there's got to be. First of all, there has to be a motivation to do that. By the, the, the countries you're referring to. I think that like if we're actually talking about people that are high skilled, that are like the cream of the crop, if we, if they want to come to the United States, I don't think there's a problem with it. But at the same time they shouldn't take job. It shouldn't be at the expense of Americans looking for work. So if there are Americans that can fill these jobs, the Americans should get the, get the opportunity first. The idea of a lottery system, that's a terrible idea. The people that come to the US should, there shouldn't be like a lottery like hey, you're you luck that, you know, you're the lucky guy that gets to come. It should be, we, we identify someone that has this particular skill.

[Richie McGinnis]

That's what the O1 extraordinary person's visa is that.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, well that's what it, that's what it should.

[Richie McGinnis]

We submitted 150 page legal brief to and like I needed 10 recommendations from different people in the media, submitted work samples and yeah, you have to prove the case that okay, this person's actually extraordinary. And actually my letter to immigration services was like the H1B gets exploited by massive companies and we're a small media company. And he will have an outsized impact on our output, the quality of our output. And that's, you know, there's also a minimum. So each, you know, the, the bar for what the starting wages for that industry is higher. So you know, it's not also like you're just able to like get cheap labor.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I don't have a like and the people that are like, oh, let's shut down immigration. I honestly don't have any kind of, like, moral problem with shutting down immigration to the U.S. except for, you know, like, the. What was the program you're talking about? Oh, one.

[Richie McGinnis]

The one.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Excep for O1 visas. That's fine with me. It's not like I'm like, oh, we need to have these people come in. We need to be. We need to go ahead and make sure that there are people that can get us on. You could shut down all immigration and I wouldn't lose a bit of sleep. Right. Like it matters.

[Richie McGinnis]

There is, there is an argument to be made that, like, the shutting down of all legal and illegal immigration to the United States would bring the economy to a halt. And I mean, obviously, like, it's hard to.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay, so, so my point being there are people that, that make a moral argument about it because most of the people on the left, they're making a moral argument. They're like, it's wrong, it's racist, it's bad, blah, blah, blah. So, and, and so I'm not making an economic argument. I'm not talking about the economics of it. I'm talking about the moral side of it. There's, there's nothing immoral about the United States saying we, we're not taking any more people until the people that are here assimilate. Now, if there's an economic need for them, then that an argument you can make that says, oh, these people are going to be a benefit to the economy. Fine. I have no problem with that kind of immigration.

[Tim Pool]

I don't care about. I hate that argument. I absolutely despise that argument. Sam Hyde had an amazing video. Did you guys see Sam Hyde's video on this one? Dude, what really bothers me about these libertarians, we're also having some libertarian who's going to come on and debate H1B and other issues in a couple of weeks. My friends, everybody out there listening, I do not care about your economy. That's it. You want to come to me and say, hey, Tim, if we do this policy, we're going to see numbers go up by this much. I'm going to be like, don't know, don't care. Because I'm a guy who's happy living in a van down by the river so long as I have a couple chickens outside, you know what I care about? Easiest example, waking up on Christmas morning, running down the stairs, snow is falling. I know not everybody lives in an area with snow, but this is my childhood. You go out, you look out the window, it's dimly lit, it's dawn, the snow is falling. Their presence under the tree, that is unquantifiable. That's what Sam how was saying some things are unquantifiable. I care about the traditions of this country. I care about the things that I experienced as a child, that I love and enjoy, that I want to persist. And this libertarian ethic of as long as the numbers are good, it's fine. Policy is insane to me. This is why I've. Look, I get along with libertarians, very much so on the anti war stuff, but in this regard, y'all are crazy. And so this is what ends up happening. I said, I despise free trade. And then this one dude's like, tell me you don't understand economics without telling me you don't understand economics or whatever. And I'm like, this is the libertarian argument, free trade, but we make money doing it. And I'm like, yeah, and then we outsource industry and kill culture.

[Richie McGinnis]

And that's, that's what happened with, you know, Bush initiated nafta and then Bill Clinton perpetuated those free trade policies and signed the, with the wto, basically opening up trade with Asia, doing the same thing that we did with NAFTA globally. And so the Democrats. Yeah, you sell a bunch of jobs overseas over the course of 20, 30 years as a unit party, then you're gonna have consequences.

[Tim Pool]

Let me, let me tell you guys something right now. You know I skateboard, right? Right now, what region of the planet do you think is biggest for skateboarding?

[Richie McGinnis]

Brazil.

[Adam Johnson]

Brazil. I was gonna actually say Brazil.

[Tim Pool]

Brazil's good, but. No, but it is funny that you didn't say, I don't know, the United States, considering that's where it's from. And Southern California is supposed to be the skateboarding.

[Richie McGinnis]

I'd say China.

[Tim Pool]

It's Southeast Asia.

[Richie McGinnis]

Really?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, it's largely Japan. They've got reality TV shows, they've got sporting game shows called Kasso. They're launching content hubs, the best athletes in the world. One of my buddies is a pro and he was saying that it's like when you watch the latest competitions, it's all just like what 15 year old Japanese kid is gonna be. Which 15 year old Chinese kid? And I'll tell you exactly why this is. It's because we outsourced all the manufacturing of our skateboards and our products to China. China built an industry around making skateboards. It became prominent in Southeast Asia and the United States, it's completely dead to where the biggest manufacturers have fled the country and aren't producing content anymore. And so not to get in a whole tirade about skateboarding, it's one example. And these libertarians are like, but we all make money. And I'm like, yeah, you make money for six years until you've completely extracted every job and every expert and they're no longer teaching kids and kids are no longer getting involved. And then when they grow up, what do they do? So I'm talking to my buddies and I went to Chicago over the holidays and a couple of my buddies from back in the day, we were hanging out and I said as we were walking downtown, new construction. I said, wow, look at that stair set. That's what skateboarders do. And I'm like, where are all the kids at? And they're like, bro, kids don't go outside anymore.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

They sit in their room depressed on the Internet all day on social media, scrolling TikTok and I'm like, this is a component of what happens when you open things up, sell off all your jobs. People don't realize, they think that, you know, especially these leftists, liberals, they think that money is food, they think that money is energy. They don't realize it's just a representation of your labor. And these libertarians too, they don't realize that when you outsource your jobs, when you import laborers and you leave American workers behind, you're giving yourself a good 10 years before your entire system completely collapses due to people who have no culture, who are bored, depressed, and nobody can do the jobs anymore. So I'm sick of this, I'm sick of that.

[Richie McGinnis]

Libertarian Riot Diet is printed in the United States.

[Adam Johnson]

Good.

[Tim Pool]

All of our boonies, boonies HQ boards are made in the United States.

[Richie McGinnis]

There we go.

[Tim Pool]

They're more, it's more expensive to do. And so somebody tweeted at me when I tweeted this and they said surfboards used to be made in the United States.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And local wood shops that would make surfboards would hold events in the park or, you know, at the beach or whatever and they tell everybody, come down, check out our new surfboards. And then families would be like, oh, let's go look at the surfboard thing. That the people who make the skateboards, their kids, the surfboards, their kids would come learn from their dad how to make a surfboard. And you had generational surfboards.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Hand shaped.

[Richie McGinnis]

Now it's all machine.

[Tim Pool]

You had, you had a dad with three sons and each of those sons.

[Richie McGinnis]

Knew how to surf Takayamas. I have a Takayama.

[Tim Pool]

And then what happened? This. This is what someone tweeted him, because I'm no surfing. He said, now it's all being made in China.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

All these companies are gone.

[Adam Johnson]

You said the exact thing I was going to come up with. It's. We don't have a generational mindset. We have lost the ability to see past ourselves, to see our grandkids. I like building. I like planting trees. The things that I do, the things I'm setting up for. Grandkids, great grandkids, I'll never meet. Because it's important to me that when they grow up, they have the idea of what I thought America should be left for them. I think we should be the first generation that leaves it in a better place than how we found it.

[Tim Pool]

But let's talk about what it means to be a better place. And that's the crux of the argument, is these individuals who are arguing that so long as we're at 3% growth, it's a better place. I say BS, BS. When we have kids who can experience a Christmas morning and not everybody have to ask. Not everybody has to have Christmas. You can have Hanukkah, you can have Kwanzaa. I don't really care. I'm just.

[Adam Johnson]

Hanukkah, though, Tim, because it's another.

[Tim Pool]

It's another holiday event.

[Richie McGinnis]

Sorry.

[Tim Pool]

Those are the ones we have. I don't care. What you celebrate is that you just.

[Richie McGinnis]

Tell us that you're selling out to the Daily.

[Tim Pool]

I have Matos in the other room. But you know what? As this nation had been predominantly Christian, we have a tradition of Christmas, and I don't care if someone celebrates something else. But the idea that you can import an entirely different culture that doesn't celebrate these same things, that doesn't have the same reverence for freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assignment. Holidays, I don't care. Absolutely. I like, you know, you go to the mall and there's a Santa Claus and you tell them what you want, and it's fun. Traditions. There's no number here. So how do you leave this country a better place? In my opinion, it's more Christmas. And I'm only using Christmas as one example. It's baseball. It's apple pie. Yes, whatever you think. I like when people watch the Super Bowl. I think it's fun. I think the ridiculous super bowl commercial nonsense. I think it's fun. These are things that are. That are inherently American.

[Richie McGinnis]

What about, like the satanic halftime shows. What about those?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, see, that's where things are falling apart when you went. And this is their weird attempt at trying to make some bad culture.

[Adam Johnson]

Janet Jackson.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

Ruined America.

[Tim Pool]

That's.

[Richie McGinnis]

That is when it started right there.

[Tim Pool]

I'll tell you this, I'll say this.

[Richie McGinnis]

Boom. Then you have an insurrection. That's what happens.

[Tim Pool]

You guys know about the grooming gang story blowing up in the uk?

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

We're gonna save this one for the members only because it's so horrifically graphic. I don't want any kids out there who may be listening to stumble upon this. And I want to stress this. Everybody says, you know, Tim doesn't want to swear because of demonetization. No, no, no, no. In the early days of the show, we swore. People emailed us saying, hey, I put the show on my TV and my kids are in the room. Please don't swear. I said, okay, we'll try to make it top level news and we'll keep the crazy stuff. But the story out of the UK with the grooming gangs, my understanding is that somebody took a transcript from the trials. Michael Malice tweets it out saying he didn't understand the depravity. People don't understand. This story is so absolutely horrifying what these gangs were doing to 13 and 12 year old girls. We're not talking about grooming, we're talking about torture. Like hardcore torture. Now, I'm not gonna get into full details. We'll say for the members only, where it's not so family friendly. The point is, the story now being reported is that politicians and police intentionally covered up the. The mass gang abuse of children because they wanted to persist a narrative that multiculturalism worked. That is absolutely insanity.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes. They'd rather keep their jobs than stop this atrocity.

[Tim Pool]

They'd rather keep their ideology.

[Phil Labonte]

They're terrified of being called racist.

[Richie McGinnis]

Well, the FBI absolutely wasn't like, I mean, you can say what you want about like ethnic classifications, but they certainly. They lumped in Latinos as white, right?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, of course.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. They've always done that.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's move on. Let's talk about some. Let's get back to the news here because we do have some.

[Richie McGinnis]

I'm Italian, so, you know, we got.

[Tim Pool]

Ufc, Dana White is on the board of Facebook. It's big news. Okay, but first from ABC News, Justin Trudeau says he'll resign as prime minister.

[Richie McGinnis]

No.

[Tim Pool]

It'S the end of the Castro legacy.

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, no.

[Phil Labonte]

This goes to like, this is like, you know, I made this point earlier. Like overall, the behavior of governments in the west during COVID is largely frowned upon by the populations. How they acted like, you know, they're sick of it.

[Richie McGinnis]

It's almost like if you lock people in their houses for no reason.

[Tim Pool]

You guys know why Justin Trudeau's resigning?

[Adam Johnson]

Because even Canada's like Indians.

[Tim Pool]

Because, because Donald Trump was there.

[Richie McGinnis]

The blackface scandal, it wasn't.

[Adam Johnson]

He was also a chic.

[Tim Pool]

Let's, let's, let's keep listing all of the scandals Trudeau has been involved in because the answer is no to all of them, which is insane. Donald Trump nuked Justin Trudeau. This all started with the Trump threat of tariffs. And then it was Christia Freeland, I think her name is. I'm not, I'm not a big. I don't know much about Canada. Got into a fight with Trudeau over it, then resigned. He wanted to move her out, saying no, no, no. Trudeau cowardly against Donald Trump. Trump. Abs, did you guys see the story.

[Richie McGinnis]

Went to Mar A Lago, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Did you hear the story that Ben Shapiro told the Ring? Ben said it was something like Trump goes to, to Trudeau and says, what's the one thing that I could do that would destroy your economy? And Trudeau said something like, I guess if you put a tariff on our, on our goods, you know, that would.

[Richie McGinnis]

Oh, you wouldn't want to do that.

[Tim Pool]

A. Oh, you don't want. And then Trump said, Trump said there's the number one rule in negotiations is never answer the question what is the one thing I could do to destroy you. Second thing is I'm going to put a tariff on your cars and destroy your.

[Richie McGinnis]

Don't put the terrorists on the hockey sticks. Just don't put the terrorists on the hockey sticks.

[Tim Pool]

Not the maple syrup.

[Adam Johnson]

So we want the north side of Niagara Falls.

[Phil Labonte]

That show. That just goes to show how terrible of a leader Justin Trudeau is. Like how bad like literally walked into Donald. The trap that Donald Trump set. You know, it's not just that either.

[Tim Pool]

That. Correct. And his uncle. Yeah. Also bad.

[Richie McGinnis]

The art of the deal.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, and both figuratively and literally, to be honest. That being said, Donald Trump's threat of tariffs prove a few things. One, like you mentioned, Trudeau is a terrible leader. And I don't even know how he last he made it as long as he did. It's been since 2015. It's almost 10 years. But the other thing is it shows that US presidents have been propping Canada up to the detriment of the American people.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, the United States.

[Tim Pool]

If the Canadian government cannot stand without us giving them.

[Richie McGinnis]

Invade.

[Adam Johnson]

Freebies.

[Richie McGinnis]

Invade.

[Tim Pool]

No, I think we don't want Canada.

[Richie McGinnis]

I got some oil up there.

[Adam Johnson]

No North Puerto Rico.

[Richie McGinnis]

I want. I want the America, America's hockey team to be as good as possible.

[Tim Pool]

So long as it's a non voting territory.

[Phil Labonte]

You don't give them. You don't give them.

[Richie McGinnis]

We need to annex. We need to annex Canada before a Canadian team wins the Stanley Cup.

[Tim Pool]

How about this? If we do invade Canada, we'll surround its government and isolate it and then not let it be part of the rest of the. Of the United States. So we'll just control the territories by conquest.

[Richie McGinnis]

We'll bring it, bring it full circle back to the old insurrection when in War of 1812. That's why Washington burned because we were off trying to.

[Tim Pool]

We almost took Montreal, bro.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, we, we already control Canada, clearly because Donald Trump just made their prime minister resign if he can. If tariffs are going to destroy their economy, we already control them. So we don't need to do anything other than use soft power and threats of tariffs or threats of economic pressure to make them comply. There's not enough of them to actually be able to produce enough goods and services to put them in a position where they don't need the United States. They have. They've forever relied on the United States for their defense. The United States one is 100% is what protects Canada.

[Tim Pool]

We.

[Phil Labonte]

Even though they're like their own country, they are absolutely at the total. You know, they will bend to. The United States will every single time. Like Justin Trudeau tried to go ahead and stand up to Donald Trump a couple of times and make it seem like, you know, he was in charge. He wasn't. He never was. Canada doesn't have the ability to stand up to the United States. If the United States really wants something, they will comply.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

They're already a vassal state, period.

[Adam Johnson]

They must also know that a lot of their citizens are probably looking at like, you mean I could be an American? These people have had their guns taken, their freedoms taken. And I think a lot of people. That sounds actually great.

[Tim Pool]

You know, I'll tell you a funny story.

[Richie McGinnis]

Just extend North Dakota.

[Tim Pool]

I was in, I think I was in Toronto and a friend of mine who's Canadian was like, did you know that Toronto is the most diverse city in the world? And I was like, more diverse than New York. I was like, really? Is that true? And I looked it up. It's not. And I Was like, it's actually majority. But they like to say this, it's like Portland because it has more immigrants than any other city or something like that. They're using some twist of, you know, reasoning to justify how they're claiming this. And I'm like, actually, it's majority white. And they got really mad at me for saying that.

[Richie McGinnis]

No, it's Quebecois. There's Quebecois.

[Tim Pool]

Very, very white.

[Adam Johnson]

They're Martha's Vineyard.

[Tim Pool]

But this is the thing about, about Canada. We can make the argument that Canadians want their guns and their speech and all these things. Look at the trucker protest. But Canada has, has imported a ton of, of, of, of migrants from all over the world into their cities to create this multicultural place. And now it's dominated by a liberal, liberal government that falls the moment Trump says, I'm going to tax you.

[Phil Labonte]

They live completely and totally at the, at the, the pleasure of the United States.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, this is, this is where we are going to. We will be much like the UK And Canada unless things turn around. It's looking like with Donald Trump coming to office, things are going to turn around. But understand, man, it's real simple. I have heard this. I haven't fact check it. So correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know if people who are listening want to, want to fact check this, that during the Biden administration, 15 million people came into the United States, which is the largest migration of humans in the history of humanity. Now, you can make the argument it's like, only because of population growth that could happen, because when there was only 50 million people, there's no way for a migration that big to happen. But either way, that's, that's crazy if true. I don't know if it's true or not. The point is you bring people in and promise them free stuff. Your government can only be sustained by continually bringing people in and offering them free stuff, which means two generations, your entire country will collapse.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah, we went to McAllen, Texas, and Jorge Ventura and I, in March of 2021, right after Biden took over and literally took the drone up, saw everybody coming in through the gaps in the wall, and then you see them on the ground and you say, hey, you know, why did you come here? And they all said, well, Joe Biden is president. Literally every single one that we talked to said, yes, we knew that now that Trump is out, we can come. And so, you know, I think a lot of the, like, blame gets placed on the people who make that trip, but it's like, when you give them an open invitation, then, you know, what do you. What do you expect?

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Richie McGinnis]

So it's like, it's the policies that are. That are creating the problem. And not to mention the amount of human suffering and. And sexual assaults that take place over the course of that journey from. From South America. But we met, like, not only over the course of those four years going to the border, you saw the diversity of the migrants change from mostly Central Americans, Hondurans, to then Venezuelans, Colombians. And then the last time I went In October of 23, it was like Afghanis, Ghanaians, they all come over in container ships into Brazil, and then they come up through the Darin Gap. And I mean, it was just like it. Everybody from all over the world and you have no clue. These people drop their IDs at the border, so you have no way of vetting who's.

[Tim Pool]

So I did a quick fact check, and the partition of India was 15 million people migrated between India and Pakistan. So if the number is truly above 15 million, you could argue that it was the largest. There was tens of millions between the 1800s and 1900s. The European migration to the Americas. Yeah, but that was over a long period of time. 13 million Syrians were displaced, but did not migrate to any specific one location. And In World War II, they were massive refugees, but once again, not any one group moving to any one location or entering one location. And so I suppose the argument is better that the large migration would be the partition of India because it was specifically Indian people moving to Pakistan. And then as for the US Mass migration, it's central, largely Central Americans, which is from different areas coming into one place. So if that's. If that's the case, 15 million. If that's the. So the estimates range from 10 to 15 million. It would be one of the largest mass migrations in history. It's possibly one of the largest, but we don't have exact numbers. Yeah, potentially within the top five is fair to say, but top three, perhaps. Yeah. Which is still absolutely insane.

[Phil Labonte]

And. And it's all. It was all an intentional policy by the left. Yes, Democrats.

[Richie McGinnis]

Well, and we saw the border wall. So when we first went down there In March of 2021, we talked to the Border Patrol, and we're like, what's.

[Adam Johnson]

Up with the wall?

[Richie McGinnis]

And it's just sitting in a parking lot, all these unbuilt portions of the wall. And they told us the construction crews were paid on their contracts, so they were paid to continue working, but then they were Biden Said cease all building of the wall. Not another inch. And so they literally were just paid to twiddle their thumbs in their trailers for the extent of their contract. It's just like the most infuriating thing.

[Adam Johnson]

In the world, the slower ebb of migration to our country in the past two decades. Right. It was a little, little lower than this. I mean, a lot lower than this. Right. I don't think people really saw it as an issue. They're like as few more people here. North Carolina had a massive hurricane and FEMA ran out of money.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah. And then they said $30 billion for a while.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Richie McGinnis]

That's way too big a price tag. $150 billion. They just. Anytime Democrats how much illegal immigration is.

[Phil Labonte]

Anytime Democrats say that it costs too much money, it's all bs. They, the United States prints the dollar. If it a program, they just print the money. Democrats only care about things when they, when they want, when it's, when it is functional for them to use as a reason to oppose it. They don't have any principles. They don't care about actually being fiscally responsible. The only time they talk about using about too much money or whatever is if it's a policy they don't like. It's always BS. Yes, always BS.

[Adam Johnson]

What was the vote that came out? Democrats. 156 Democrats voted against even getting rid of the.

[Tim Pool]

In the UK too. Wasn't it like they had a similar vote? There was a vote to deport illegal immigrants convicted of sexual abuse. And 156 Democrats, I think said no.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it's insane.

[Adam Johnson]

Like surely we can all agree that is a bad thing. Right? What about the whole MeToo movement? Have we moved on from that?

[Phil Labonte]

They don't care.

[Richie McGinnis]

I believe, I just, I believe all.

[Adam Johnson]

The modicum of wanted to put that on the record.

[Phil Labonte]

Don't. They will never be consistent. It is all BS and power for the life.

[Tim Pool]

I was watching this movie called Blink Twice. Have you guys heard of it?

[Phil Labonte]

No.

[Tim Pool]

It's a horror movie. And when I, when we're out, you know, I was hanging out with Allison and we're like, let's watch a movie. And we're on Amazon and then we see the description and it's like strange things are happening on an island. And then I'm just like, instantly I knew it was going to be some weird woke garbage. And then I was like, I don't, I don't know if I want to watch this. It's going to be the story about a black woman who's attacked by White guys. And it's not a bad movie, but it does have a couple woke elements in it. If they just didn't do that, it had been fine. Like, it doesn't matter that the. The main character is black. None of that matters. What matters is that at one point in the movie, she screams she can't call the police because. Because the white men won't believe women. And no matter how many times women scream believe women, men won't listen. And these white men would rather play golf with them or some. Some other nonsense.

[Richie McGinnis]

I'm a white man, and I believe all women, so I just debunked that whole thing.

[Adam Johnson]

Did this happen on an island? It wasn't in England. Wasn't in anything a woman?

[Tim Pool]

No, it was in the Caribbean, actually. But the movie's a fine idea. It's got Channing Tatum, Christian Slater's in it, and it's basically about, I'm gonna spoil them. I don't spoil the movie for you. But it's not a bad movie. It's just really annoying when right in the middle, it's like, hey, we have a plot hole. She's being attacked. Why don't you tell the cops? Oh, because the cops are racist and don't believe women. Perfect. Write that in. And then she yells about it.

[Adam Johnson]

I'm like, we were talking about this earlier. It's the. We miss the suspension of disbelief. We watch movies for this, right? Watch sports as. I want to. I want to zone out. I want to watch a movie. I want to watch the fights. I can't even do that anymore because there's always something implemented in the middle of it. This pulls me back into reality. Like, oh, yeah, that's what's going on in the world.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Richie McGinnis]

I want Denzel and Gladiator, though. Denzel and Gladiator in the new one. It's not a good gladiator 2. It's not a good movie, but Denzel is. It's funny because, like, everybody has, like, kind of like that suit.

[Tim Pool]

Are you talking about gladiator? Yeah.

[Richie McGinnis]

Gladiator 2. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Richie McGinnis]

Everyone has, like, that pseudo accent, you know, like, oh, yes, we are in the Roman Empire right now. And then Denzel's just like, okay, so funny.

[Tim Pool]

I want to fight with some swords. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I'm fine. I want to see duct tape a. A gun to his back and then scream, EP K. You know? I mean, like, none of it makes sense. Okay. But I don't care. We're here. To have fun.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, that was. That was like Maverick, right? Like, it was the. The Top Gun movie with Maverick. Like, there wasn't a whole lot of substance. It was just awesome American.

[Tim Pool]

But. And it did really, really well. Right?

[Adam Johnson]

They did Star Wars.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah. People liked it and. But they should have made a bad guy. I don't understand why they were like, the enemy, you know, they didn't want to say the Russians or the Chinese or anything like that. I'm like, who cares? We did it. We do it all the time.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, you can't.

[Richie McGinnis]

You get banned in China. If you get banned in China, then you lose hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Tim Pool]

That's why they didn't do it, because they were like, we want to market in Russia.

[Richie McGinnis]

Are you ready? Ready for this Quentin Tarantino tangent right here?

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Richie McGinnis]

Okay, so Once Upon a Time in Tibet was the first movie to get really banned in China. That big, big money movie that lost hundreds of millions of dollars by getting banned in China. It was like 97. Brad Pit was the star of that movie.

[Adam Johnson]

Seven Years in Tibet.

[Richie McGinnis]

Seven Years in Tibet. Is that what I said?

[Adam Johnson]

Yes, you said once upon a time.

[Richie McGinnis]

Once. Oh, sorry. Seven years in Tibet. Yes. Once upon a time in Hollywood, Brad Pitt is the stuntman who beats the crap out of Bruce Lee.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Richie McGinnis]

And Quentin Tarantino knew that that was going to get banned in Hollywood, in China, and he did it anyways. As like that he used Brad Pitt for that specific reason.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, very funny. Yeah, that's all right, ladies and gentlemen, let's jump to this next story from the post Millennial breaking. Donald Trump Jr. Travels to Greenland as President Trump continues to explore U.S. ownership of the territory. It's happening, dude. Look at this. Greenland leader calls for independence from Denmark as Trump enters green.

[Richie McGinnis]

They added sled teams, though. Denmark said they were bolstering their sled.

[Tim Pool]

And they changed their coat of arms to put.

[Richie McGinnis]

No joke, dude. They said that they're like, we are sending two more sled teams to bolster the security.

[Tim Pool]

It's over, dude.

[Richie McGinnis]

That place is.

[Tim Pool]

The size of Greenland is ours.

[Richie McGinnis]

Two sled teams. Greenland. We are taking this very seriously.

[Tim Pool]

It's very difficult to get to Greenland. Okay? There's. The flights exist. It's possible you can go there. There's a very small population. They're not good. Like, I gotta be honest. You got this. This beautiful Chad. United States or this virgin Denmark and this buxom Greenland. Who are they going to pick? I mean, come on, let's just play it this way. You're young and you sugar mama or sugar daddy. And one. It's a small, you know, I don't know, Baltic nation. They're okay. I mean, it's got its wealth and everything. And then there's the United States, the wealthiest nation on the planet. The richest person, you know is being like, nah, dump that person. Come with me. And I'll. It's like a job offer.

[Richie McGinnis]

He's gonna put Trump Tower there.

[Adam Johnson]

High school.

[Richie McGinnis]

Remember he did tweeted that.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, I wanted meme.

[Phil Labonte]

As an aside, the la. The United states acquired the US Virgin Islands from Denmark in 1917. And it was 25 million in gold coin is what they. Is what they cost. So I don't know what, you know, if it's significantly more for Greenland, but I think the U.S. should.

[Richie McGinnis]

That's how much Epstein paid for little St. James there.

[Adam Johnson]

Coming back. I'm sorry.

[Phil Labonte]

Look, the reason that the, that the Virgin. The US Virgin Islands were actually good for the US Is because they're strategic. They. They allowed the US to have naval bases to help defend the Panama Canal and etc. So they were valuable too, even though they didn't have the same kind of resources.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, it's tremendously valuable for, for the United States. I mean, it's. We need it extremely strategic. Look at it puts us very close to. To Iceland, to Northern Europe, to. To Russia, the Arctic Circle, all that stuff. And right now, what is Denmark really doing?

[Phil Labonte]

Buy it. We need it.

[Richie McGinnis]

Let's take it.

[Tim Pool]

I.

[Richie McGinnis]

Let's take those sled dogs.

[Tim Pool]

Population as of 2022 is 56,000.

[Adam Johnson]

Can send Christie Noem, call the Federal.

[Phil Labonte]

Reserve, tell them to print up the money. We need it by Old Yeller on there.

[Tim Pool]

What's that market. What does Denmark do if Greenland votes for independence and then votes to join United States as a territory?

[Richie McGinnis]

They speed skate right over there and they do nothing.

[Tim Pool]

They do nothing.

[Phil Labonte]

They. They do nothing at all because the United States is the muscle of NATO.

[Richie McGinnis]

They make some more chocolate just like, just like Canada.

[Phil Labonte]

They do nothing. The United States makes moves and other countries respond. When you have a president like Trump, when you have a strong United States, the United States does what it wants and it doesn't have to be dropping bombs or, you know, military. It can just be like, this is what we're going to do. Here's how we're going to do it. And other countries are going to comply.

[Adam Johnson]

I actually like this idea because there are a lot of countries I will not go to because they will arrest me for things I've said. On Twitter. So I like, like the uk, huh? I like the idea of being able to go to a like, you know, an island I've been to before and then hang out. Not get arrested for mean tweets.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I mean, the UK's once again threatening to extradite American citizens for saying naughty things.

[Adam Johnson]

What was the story? There was a kid who got a four year sentence for what did he do was mean tweets.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. They've thrown a bunch of people in jail for mean tweets.

[Richie McGinnis]

Maybe we should annex Ireland. I've just been, you know, I'm a Mick Guinness and I don't. No, you don't want Ireland. No, no.

[Phil Labonte]

There's nothing good in iron. The Irish can't even get along.

[Richie McGinnis]

There's some surf up there. It's. It's a beautiful place.

[Phil Labonte]

No, they put Pete in all their scotch. No, thank you.

[Richie McGinnis]

Dude, you're talking to a Mick Guinness here.

[Phil Labonte]

What?

[Adam Johnson]

Pete.

[Phil Labonte]

Pete.

[Tim Pool]

Pete.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes. Yeah, well, I mean, highlands don't. Lowlands, not so much. I lay is very much so. PETA.

[Richie McGinnis]

Wait a second. Mr. Pro America over here has Japanese whiskey.

[Adam Johnson]

Because it's better record. Because it's better.

[Phil Labonte]

If it's good, it's good.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wait, whose whiskey is that?

[Richie McGinnis]

That's never mine.

[Adam Johnson]

That's mine. Oh, I always bring a bottle.

[Richie McGinnis]

It's, it's, it's imported.

[Tim Pool]

That was always allowed. Oh, Nook. Is that how you say it? The largest city in Greenland. List of cities and towns in Greenland.

[Phil Labonte]

It's ours now. We gotta have it Looks beautiful.

[Adam Johnson]

You rename it.

[Richie McGinnis]

Look up the sled dog headquarters. Where's that?

[Tim Pool]

Oh, look at that. They got the. They got the aurora borealis.

[Phil Labonte]

We need it.

[Adam Johnson]

This city's Laura, this is Eric Jr.

[Tim Pool]

I went to Utgiagvik in 2023. That was fun.

[Richie McGinnis]

Where's that?

[Tim Pool]

You see, here's a funny thing, and this is a good story for all yous. We talked about the story when we came back for the year, but it used to be called Barrow, Alaska. Barrow. Back when the Americans settled it, there were a bunch of people already there. But those people largely didn't really care. You, you, you live on the ice, you hunt whale. There's no trees because it's in the Arctic Circle and everything's just frozen mud. And so it gets. I don't. I don't know exactly the history, but it gets named Barrow. The United States gets Alaska. They say this is Barrow. It's the northernmost point of the United States. There was a vote to change the name to Its original Utgiakvik. That's what the natives referred to it as. And most people there, at least this is what I was told they were fine with the name Barrow, but a handful of activists went and voted and nobody else did. So the name is now Utgiakvik. Even though if you go there, locals say Barrow. That's how insane it is. People need to go out and vote. That's what's really annoying. I'm glad to see that people actually voted for Donald Trump.

[Phil Labonte]

Activists are the worst.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, well, I mean, look, they win because they're active. That's right.

[Phil Labonte]

They're awful people.

[Tim Pool]

They are. What are we going for in Greenland? We're going for oil.

[Phil Labonte]

Just take it.

[Adam Johnson]

Figure out later in post.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I'm sure that it's. I'm sure there's a bunch of things that are. That are worth having that we need it.

[Richie McGinnis]

We need those two sled dog teams.

[Phil Labonte]

Isn't Greenland. Isn't that where they have like a lot of geothermal stuff, I'm assuming. Or is it Iceland that I'm.

[Adam Johnson]

Iceland has the black sand beaches.

[Richie McGinnis]

Iceland.

[Tim Pool]

Greenland's hot Springs. Greenland's 2020 estimated GD nominal GDP is $3 billion. That's pretty, pretty small.

[Phil Labonte]

Donald Trump himself can. Per capita.

[Tim Pool]

That's not bad.

[Adam Johnson]

Save Ukraine with that money.

[Tim Pool]

$54,000 per capita. That's CDP.

[Phil Labonte]

We need it by.

[Tim Pool]

You.

[Phil Labonte]

If, if it does have any kind of geothermal activity, just. You can just set up a whole bunch of bitcoin mines.

[Tim Pool]

There you go. I guess. I think. I think it's actually pretty likely. I mean, I don't think Trump Jr. Is going there. He's set to visit Greenland on Tuesday after Trump expressed interest in exploring the possibility of US ownership. Yo, Denmark's got nothing. If the US State then.

[Richie McGinnis]

Or do we just guam it up territory?

[Tim Pool]

If the US Goes to Greenland and says, look, we'll provide you with a billion dollar loan guaranteed once a year. They're going to be like, done.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Development, research, exploration, jobs. They're like, okay.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep, we need it.

[Tim Pool]

Denmark's going to be like. But we'll give you speed skating teams.

[Phil Labonte]

Denmark's not going to do anything. They're gonna be like, give us back Lars Ulrich. And we're say, take him. He's not even the best drummer in Metallica.

[Tim Pool]

And then we're going to be like, is that it? They're going to be like you. We still want Greenland back. And black. We're not talking about Greenland.

[Phil Labonte]

That, that, that is off the table. Greenland Is America now.

[Tim Pool]

Actually, I think more likely the US Is going to be like, we won't give you Greenland, but we'll give you Lars. And they're like, how dare you?

[Phil Labonte]

You refuse, they're gonna say, give us James. He's better at drums than Lars is.

[Adam Johnson]

He can drum in 3, 4, and 4, 4, 6, 8, sometimes 74. Out of the question.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, Unbelievable daring. So Trump posted. I am hearing the people of Greenland, our Maga, my son Don Jr. And various reps will be traveling there to visit some of the most magnificent areas and sites. Greenland is an incredible place, and the people will benefit tremendously if and when it becomes part of our nation. We will protect it and cherish it from a very vicious outside world.

[Phil Labonte]

It's ours now. Already ours.

[Tim Pool]

And that will give us a. A staging point, a beachhead for our invasion of. Alas, I'm sorry, of Canada.

[Adam Johnson]

Wait a minute. What if we turn it into Australia, the new prison state? We just send everyone there. We take the green people out. We bring them in here. Good job.

[Tim Pool]

Green people.

[Phil Labonte]

Green people.

[Adam Johnson]

Green people. That's what we're going to call them now.

[Tim Pool]

Greenlandians.

[Adam Johnson]

And we send the 15 million to Greenland. Build a wall around it. Australia Part 2.

[Tim Pool]

Escape from Greenland solves a lot of problems. I mean, look, I've been advocating for the island for some time.

[Phil Labonte]

The island.

[Adam Johnson]

We sent them to Mexico, to Haiti, to Cuba, where they came from. They're gonna come right back over Greenland. They're not making that trek.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I've been saying that instead of the death penalty, just create an island and put people there and say, we're not gonna kill you, because killing is wrong. But we hereby agree not to be responsible for you anymore. So you go to the island.

[Richie McGinnis]

So you shut down. Shut down Gitmo, and then you just make all of Greenland.

[Phil Labonte]

I feel like. I feel like Greenland is worth more than. Than that.

[Tim Pool]

Does it have oil?

[Richie McGinnis]

We still haven't really determined what Greenland.

[Phil Labonte]

What it has figured out. Geothermal activity, mining, Bitcoin man.

[Tim Pool]

Greenland is believed to have significant oil and gas reserves.

[Phil Labonte]

Boom.

[Tim Pool]

Particularly offshore.

[Phil Labonte]

There you go.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, well, we can't do that because Biden.

[Richie McGinnis]

We need to be reliant. We need to be relying on Saudi Arabian.

[Phil Labonte]

In case you didn't know, he died months ago. That is just a corpse that they are wheeling around. Someone said that that Biden or that Biden released a statement. I was like, biden didn't release a statement.

[Richie McGinnis]

He said, God damn it today.

[Tim Pool]

So I went to Iceland a couple years ago.

[Richie McGinnis]

He's in prime Iceland.

[Tim Pool]

Iceland was very poor until they discovered, developed, invented geothermal energy. Now they have access to large amounts of energy because they tap geothermal. Now there's greenhouses, they're growing plants, and they're decently well off in Iceland. Greenland has untapped geothermal reserves and oil and Denmark ain't doing nothing for these people. If the US Sends in industry and they build geothermal plants, the standard of living for people in Greenland is going to skyrocket. We don't even need to offer a money. We're saying, no, we're not going to do anything. We're going to send in the oil companies and then you're going to be.

[Richie McGinnis]

Rich and they're going to let Dick Cheney get involved.

[Phil Labonte]

Bitcoin's over $100,000 again.

[Adam Johnson]

Would this, would this be a workaround, though? Because I know Biden didn't put that in. They said that to actually get it approved through Congress to bypass what Biden did. If Greenland is just a territory, would that bypass his last order?

[Phil Labonte]

Then you can drill anything that, any of Biden's executive orders, they can all be rescinded as soon as it goes in.

[Adam Johnson]

Trump said he was going to do that. I thought it had to pass in Congress. There was something I did not.

[Phil Labonte]

If it's, if I understand correctly, if it's an executive order, then the incoming president can make an executive order to undo it. And that, and that's why executive orders are actually like, like a bad idea. You want to get legislation passed by Congress, you know. Well, they're not a bad idea.

[Richie McGinnis]

You want to get massive omnibus bills with, you know. Yeah, we can train, I don't know, Afghan women how to do backflips with a beach ball. What, on their head? Yeah. $35 million.

[Phil Labonte]

Is that a, that, is that. Actually there was one of the.

[Richie McGinnis]

Something, something ridiculous. It was, maybe it wasn't always something. Maybe it was something, you know, some variation of that always sound awful fact check me out there.

[Adam Johnson]

You actually sold that.

[Phil Labonte]

You did sell it. Yeah, it was all right. But, but yeah, I, I, I, I think that the, the executive orders, they can just be resented by the incoming administration.

[Adam Johnson]

That was my understanding. I heard some pundit talking about I had to go through Congress for this. And again, it's Twitter, so.

[Phil Labonte]

It'S the Internet, you know. You know, it's true. I read it on the Internet. No, we got this.

[Tim Pool]

Let's, let's pull up this, this story I just saw is breaking news from CNBC. Shares of Tencent fall over 5% in Hong Kong after U.S. designates it as a Chinese military company. Did the U.S. just do that designating Tencent? So doesn't Tencent own Discord or do they own like a portion of it or something?

[Phil Labonte]

I don't even know what 10 cent is.

[Tim Pool]

Tencent is the largest video game vendor.

[Phil Labonte]

Oh yeah.

[Tim Pool]

This is crazy news. I don't know. I don't know if I know. I don't know that I know enough about Tencent to actually properly comment on this, but I didn't realize the US had declared it a Chinese military company.

[Phil Labonte]

That's crazy. So it has WeChat. Tencent is best known for its messaging services such as waxing and WeChat. So I mean, I don't know much about, obviously don't know much about Tencent, but I mean, if. If it's involved in these types of technologies, then it makes perfect sense that it would be a military contractor.

[Richie McGinnis]

You know what's gonna happen with Tick Tock?

[Tim Pool]

That's what I was thinking too, because now Trump doesn't want to ban it just because he thinks it helped him. But I think that's silly. That's stupid. I think Tick Tock should get nuked.

[Adam Johnson]

A lot of MAGA influencers are heavily invested with their clicks, likes and revenue streams through TikTok.

[Tim Pool]

So here we go. Tencent has a majority stake in Riot Games. It's got a 40% stake in EPIC Games, it's got a minority stake in Activision Blizzard, it owns 12% of Snap. Snapchat it's got a 5% stake of Tesla, it's got a 15% stake in Glue. I don't know what that is. It participated in a funding round for Discord. I don't know how much it means. And it raised $300 million in funding. Reddit got 300 million in funding led from around. Okay, Tencent, okay, they. Weird. Strangely, Tencent gave 100 million to Reddit, according to Royers and the Verge. And here we go, we actually have the story from the Verge. This is pretty nuts, yo. This could affect Tesla. Let's talk about that Tick Tock ban, right when they said that you can't have ownership. This would force Tesla to divest from anything held by Tencent. This is what people were warning about, the Tick Tock ban, that if we say any, any company with ownership from these adversarial countries would have to divest. This would put Tesla, Riot, Epic, Snapchat, Activision, Discord, Reddit, all in this position where they would have to find new investors and sell the stake. That's pretty crazy. Look at this. US Designates Tencent and Catl as Chinese military companies. This is just reported today. Yo, that's pretty wild. What do you guys think we should. Should we ban Tik Tok?

[Adam Johnson]

No.

[Richie McGinnis]

Put it in Greenland.

[Adam Johnson]

No.

[Tim Pool]

What's called there'd be good for the servers.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, Tick Tock is the only social media that the CIA and Intel agencies don't have a backdoor into. Right? This is China owned.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it's China, just Chinese. The CCP has a backdoor.

[Adam Johnson]

I know, right? I mean, I don't know. It's.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that the United States. Now, I'm not saying that we should ban Tick Tock, although I probably could be convinced that it's not a bad idea. But the United States does need to look at the CCP as a. As a serious threat. It's been. There was just. Just yesterday I saw on the news that there's a. A Chinese person that was arrested for acting as police policing other Chinese people in the United States. That's happened in, in Canada. That's how I think it was in. In San Francisco. They had some of it. They had some of that kind of stuff happening in Boston. The whole balloon flying over the US and the US did nothing about it. I think the, the, at least the Biden administration for sure has been entirely toothless when it comes to China. And I think that the US really needs to take a long, hard look at the policies towards China because there.

[Richie McGinnis]

Have been some financial incentives there.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, I think that's likely, but I do think that the U.S. there's a. There's a serious threat from, From China as a. Yeah, you know, I mean, they're, they're an upcoming global power, I think.

[Tim Pool]

Power. You know, someone super chatted. Hal gailey super chatted. Under 18. No algorithmic feeds. Now you got to go more than that. I think there is a real simple solution to a lot of these issues, and it's to treat social media the same as we already treat real life. By all means, go out into the street.

[Richie McGinnis]

Stuff the nerds in the lockers.

[Tim Pool]

If you regrets, if you go out in public and hold up a big sign of graphic adult material, you're gonna get arrested. It's illegal. But if you go on X and do it, they allow it. And there's kids on the platform. So either you're gonna ban anyone under 18 from using any social media and the only thing they can get is a curated feed from Netflix YouTube or whatever. Disney Plus.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Or you arrest people when they post these things publicly.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, they had YouTube kids. Right. And that didn't turn out great. There was a lot of CP that was.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

On that as well. Roblox, it's inundated with that. I mean these evil will persist regardless what parameters you set and how much you want to limit their, their functionality. Florida, Louisiana, Texas. It's a handful of states that have now made it. You have to show your ID if you want to go on adult websites. You have to register with the state. Do I think that's a good solution? I don't want kids to have access to those things. But should you have to register with the state to access an adult in her side as a consenting adult? I don't know. I, I always struggle with how much power I want to give the government to regulate what I can, I can't do as a free citizen.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean that's the, the whole libertarian take of, you know, the government shouldn't be doing this, shouldn't be doing that. Like in principle I, I agree. But if the power exists to be involved in these things, then the left's going to take it. If the right doesn't take.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

So I think, I think finding the company not setting up so for specifically for adult websites, they should have their own 2fa system where they're checking for VPNs, they're making sure that it actually is an adult that is registering these things. I think you put incumbent upon the, the companies that they want to be in business of this. It is the, one of the largest, most profitable industries. They can find some way to navigate this to make sure kids aren't getting on here making a comment upon that. Don't get the state involved.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I don't mind that. You know, I just, like I said, I just think that as long as there's, as long as there's. There is a power that is assumed the government has. If the right doesn't utilize it, then the left will. I think that the government it should we. I would love to see more people.

[Richie McGinnis]

This spiral argument though.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it is. But I would, I will. I. I mean we're already way down the slippery slope, man. It's not like, like if you get rid of the, the commerce clause and you get rid of the, the necessary and proper clause, then you'd have a different, a different argument or different discussion buying Greenland.

[Richie McGinnis]

We just sell California.

[Tim Pool]

The slippery slope moves in every direction.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

There is nowhere to stand. So when you know, I'm tired of this argument where it's like, yeah, but if we, you know, if we censor, if we, if we declare this thing to be illegal, the left will declare our thing illegal. And it's like they can do it anyway. When you don't enforce your way of life, you end up with these graphic adult books in children's schools for 6, 10 year olds getting these graphic adult content. And then when we complain about, they lie. And we are then forced into a political battle to try and pull the overturn window back the other direction. And the argument then is, but if you go too far, the slippery slope, now they're saying that Obergefell gay marriage will likely be overturned because the liberals are challenging it. The argument is, and I don't know how likely this is, you're going to get some clerk in a conservative state who's going to refuse to sign a gay marriage certificate. They're going to sue and lose or win. It's going to get appealed to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court's going to say, we don't see why this is an issue for the federal government like Roe v. Wade. We think it should go back to the states. Have a nice day.

[Phil Labonte]

Well, Oberger Feld just says that they have to recognize marriage licenses, correct?

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, I'm fine.

[Phil Labonte]

But isn't, but isn't there a press. Because isn't the precedent that they have to recognize driver's license?

[Tim Pool]

I don't, I have no idea.

[Phil Labonte]

Okay.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I, I don't think it matters. The argument is they're going to say why, why is the federal government involved in whether or not a state wants to recognize or not recognize a marriage?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, then the same argument could be made about driver's license. What, why, why would, why, why is it that California must recognize, you know, New Hampshire's driver's license?

[Tim Pool]

Because those, those are a function of economics and infrastructure. State and marriage is a question of tax code, blah, blah, blah. The federal government can choose to recognize that. But there is a, you know, there's another issue. The, the argument, like there's no correlation between a driver's license and a marriage license.

[Phil Labonte]

It's a license.

[Tim Pool]

So what?

[Phil Labonte]

So the argument that's, that would be love. But listen, it's the, the driving car.

[Tim Pool]

Operation operating heavy machinery and marriage is, is tax code.

[Phil Labonte]

So the argument that is going to be, that's the argument that's going to be presented to the Supreme Court. Though if it does go, if you, you go to the Supreme Court, they're going to Say, well, how come we. We should. We should. You know, how come you will recognize. And the reason I say this is because there's an argument about firearms permits. How come the U.S. exactly what I was thinking. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Because there's a second amendment.

[Adam Johnson]

You should recognize my.

[Phil Labonte]

The point.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Phil Labonte]

The point is.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Any requirement of a permit is an infringement on our rights, period. And the Supreme Court is derelict. And when Kavanaugh said you can require permits, no, that's an infringement. Telling me I have to get permission from the government for my right is an infringement.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So there's no argument there.

[Phil Labonte]

But no, I'm not. You're not going to. You're not going to. You're not going to have me saying that. That there should be. That there. It shouldn't be nationwide, you know, constitutional carry. That's what I think it should be. But the arguments will be made to the Supreme Court about.

[Tim Pool]

Sure. The rest. And the point.

[Phil Labonte]

License.

[Tim Pool]

The argument being made right now is that the Supreme Court's going to respond much like they did Roe v. Wade and say this issue is not a. Is not operating heavy machinery. It has nothing to do with permitted use of a large device which can kill people. It's a question of whether or not we apply tax code to two same sex individuals. That is not a question for the federal government unless Congress passes a law about recognition or blah, blah, blah.

[Richie McGinnis]

Or a constitutional amendment or, you know.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. Constitutional amendment.

[Phil Labonte]

So the questions that were brought up in Obergefeld were, does the 14th amendment require a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex? 1 and 2. Does the 14th amendment require a state to recognize marriage between two people of the same sex that was legally licensed and performed in another state? So it's a licensing question. Yes.

[Tim Pool]

No, it isn't.

[Phil Labonte]

That's literally what it just said.

[Tim Pool]

I know, but you're conflating licensing with. With. With specific things. There's a lot of things. Get licenses. You have a license to fish. My fishing license in Illinois is not recognized in Indiana.

[Phil Labonte]

That the, the argument saying it's a.

[Tim Pool]

License is not the point.

[Phil Labonte]

The point that I'm making is this was a licensing question. Yes, this was. One of the arguments in Obergefell was about licensing.

[Tim Pool]

It doesn't matter because the question is going to be to the Supreme Court, should the federal government be involved in whether or not a state will recognize a marriage? And the argument can be made, the Supreme Court will simply respond the same way as Roe v. Wade and say it's not a role of the federal government.

[Phil Labonte]

Question that they're of the Supreme Court is, does. Is. This is, is. Are all the states required to recognize the license.

[Tim Pool]

I understand that. And the Supreme Court will say that. It's not a question for the Supreme Court.

[Adam Johnson]

I think they say that or the other.

[Tim Pool]

It could go. I could go anyway. The point is we have a conservative Supreme Court that has already said Roe v. Wade was not a question for the Supreme Court. The states should decide. And then when they come out and say the federal government should recognize licenses interstate because they're marriages, they might say, no, that's not a question for the Supreme Court. Ask Congress, maybe.

[Phil Labonte]

I think that, I think the argument that the. I mean, I, I can't predict what the Supreme Court's going to say, but I do think that the argument about licensing, the argument is going to be, well, we do that with driver's license.

[Tim Pool]

We don't do that with fishing licenses.

[Phil Labonte]

Fishing licenses aren't the same thing as.

[Tim Pool]

Driver'S license and driver's license, not the same thing as marriage licenses. You're explaining things that don't make, don't. That don't make sense being correlated. Okay, A gun license is not a driver's license. A driver's license, not a marriage license. A marriage license, not a fishing license. Hunting license is not a fishing licen. But the license don't work intrastate.

[Phil Labonte]

If you bring a licensing question to the government, to the Supreme Court, they're going to try to. Whether it be a fishing license or a gun license. The argument that. The most obvious argument that they're going to make is they're going to say it's a licensing.

[Tim Pool]

And the point is, you have an argument as to why you think it may be. And it's immaterial to the fact the Supreme Court may say licensing is all different. We are not going to answer a question over whether in fact, I think from your point of view, the argument stands, they would overturn Obergefell under the guise of. If we are going to answer this question, that all licensing from the state must be recognized by other states. That means all gun permits are hereby legal in every state. All fishing license are hereby legal. All hunting licenses, all licenses to paint your home, all licenses to permits to build a property. We're not going to answer that. That's a ridiculous channel Plumber.

[Adam Johnson]

Right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. A lawyer. It means every lawyer can operate in every single state. But laws are different. They're going to say no. States must determine within their own Jurisdiction what they license and what they don't, and Congress will determine otherwise. So if I don't know where we're at with Congress, the point is the slippery slope goes in every direction.

[Adam Johnson]

I think what we're coming together, I think they would take that route, kick it back down to the states. It's kind of a Pontus pilot washing the hands. You guys figure this out, not getting involved. I think what Phil is arguing is that if they do take this on. The arguments that were the, the original arguments for this is that if it is a licensing issue, then all licenses should be accepted everywhere. Which is.

[Tim Pool]

It's an insane argument.

[Adam Johnson]

Exactly. So I, I do think it'll err on the side of where you're landing. It's going to be that. But the argument that the license should be recognized everywhere, I should be able to have a gun everywhere.

[Tim Pool]

Right. If, but so, so for the issue of driver's licenses, it's a, this is the point about the slippery slope going in every direction. People say we have to let the left say whatever they want because if we ban what they're saying, they'll ban what we're saying. And it's like, okay, well, they've been banning what we're saying. They keep doing it. And then what happens is they, they operate under that Karl Popper meme of if you tolerate intolerance, intolerance wins. Therefore, we're going to ban everybody we hate. And then we keep going, well, we're gonna let them keep doing these things, advocating for psychotic, deranged ideology that puts children in harm's way. Here's a slippery slope. When you defend the free speech of the left, you get graphic adult books in grade schools. That's the slippery slope.

[Phil Labonte]

So the dissenting argument in Obergefell is exactly what you were saying. Chief justice John Roberts Jr. Wrote a dissent in which he argued that while same sex marriage might be a good and fair policy, the Constitution does not address it, and therefore it's beyond the purview of the court to decide whether states have to recognize or license unions.

[Tim Pool]

So what was the makeup of the court when Noberger fell was passed? 5 to 4 liberal.

[Adam Johnson]

90S.

[Phil Labonte]

It was. Yeah, it was 5 to 4 liberal.

[Tim Pool]

No, it was 2016, I think. Was it 2014?

[Phil Labonte]

Let me see, one second. It was. Where's the date? Where's the date? 2015. January 16th.

[Adam Johnson]

Holy cow.

[Phil Labonte]

So yeah, it was.

[Tim Pool]

And now we have a 6 to 3 conservative court that may go 5 to 4. But I believe that I, I think we have A very strong possibility that there's going to be some. Some. Some. Some. A gay couple is going to file in Arkansas. Clerk's gonna say, no, they're gonna sue, they're gonna lose. They're gonna appeal to a federal court. They're gonna win or lose. It'll get appealed by either side. The Supreme Court. Supreme Court's gonna say, as John Roberts already did, this is not a question for the. For the Supreme Court. Ask Congress. We hereby overturn Obergefell because of the.

[Phil Labonte]

Makeup of the court. I think you're right. I think I agree with that, because that's already the argument that the dissent made in.

[Tim Pool]

And so this is the slippery slope when you go in the direction of, hey, guys, like, I don't care that gay people get married, okay? Like, I know. I know people who are gay and who are married, and I'm totally fine with it. Dave Rubin's a great example. He's a good dude. He's a friend. He's gay, married, and he is against them putting this stuff in schools. You've got gays against groomers. Also friends of ours. They. I, I don't know if any of them are married or whatever, but they oppose this stuff in schools. But what happens is the left, as a large group, ultimately moves in the direction of. As they state their argument is if a child in a school sees a teacher who has a picture of their gay, married husband on their desk, the teacher should be allowed to tell the student, well, if that's the case, if you're doing sex ed, the children have to be taught about gay sex. Otherwise, you're. You're violating the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That's the slippery slope. So then we say, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no, no. That's gone way too far. And so we say, pull it back. And we did. We elected Donald Trump. And what happened then? He appointed three conservative justices. And now what's likely gonna happen? Well, Roe v. Wade got overturned. That's the slippery slope in the direction. There is no point in human society where you stand still and say, this is the happy medium. It's not gonna happen.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

I think we are very likely going to see at some point the Supreme. The Supreme Court's gonna be made up the way it is for a very long time.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Obergefell is likely gonna get overturned. I just think that's as a high probability. But let's talk about this story here. We got this one from CNBC. This is huge news. UFC's Dana White joins Meta's board weeks before Trump takes office. Dana White is great, longtime friend of President elect Donald Trump joining the board of Meta. Mark Zuckerberg said in a post that White has built the UFC into one of the most valuable, fest, growing, and most popular sports enterprises in the world. That is true. And they say John Elkin, the CEO of Italian holding company Xor, and former Microsoft executive Charlie Songhurst are also joining Meta's board. This is massive. Dana White is a friend of Trump. He is a Trump supporter. He is on the board. This is going to have a massive positive impact.

[Richie McGinnis]

Twice as wide as Zucker.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, man, Zuckerberg's been doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I think. I think Zuckerberg's.

[Adam Johnson]

Everybody, this is the best. So, honestly, this is actually a great thing. I do jiu jitsu. It's my hobby. And I can tell you that the majority of that environment, those people that come in there, they start very much like Zuckerberg does.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Adam Johnson]

Everyone wants to be a tough guy. You come in, you figure out that you get folded in 16 different ways, and you love it. For some reason, you realize that your.

[Phil Labonte]

Cardio isn't as good as you thought your cardio was.

[Adam Johnson]

Exactly. And I think this could be a good thing for him. He is lining himself up with people who are probably centrists, populists, and he's going to learn a new way of life. I'm actually excited about this.

[Tim Pool]

I mean, Zuckerberg started doing Brazilian Jiu jitsu. That's what he was training, right? It spiked his testosterone. His hair grew out, got a gold chain. Well, I mean, he did, but I.

[Richie McGinnis]

Really do think sentient again.

[Tim Pool]

He's. He's this scrawny tech bro. UFC becomes popular. He's got some friends who are like, let's watch the fight. He gets interested in it. He says, yeah, man, I want to do that. That looks fun. I'll get in shape. He starts training, starts building muscle mass, starts eating meat, testosterone spikes. And now here he is putting Dana White on the board of Meta.

[Phil Labonte]

I mean, look, anything that could in. And if. If he can be influenced by people like Dana White, I think that's a good thing. It's also, like, I know that we're going to be all really critical of Facebook because of the way they behave for the past 10 years, but if this is another sign that Zuck is moving away from kind of being in bed with the government, I'd say good.

[Richie McGinnis]

You know, their solution to the whole thing is. And I know just through people who still run businesses on Facebook related to news content is they just were like, what's even the point of having political content on Facebook? So now, news company. No, seriously, like, news companies, the revenue on Facebook has just absolutely fallen through the floor because they no longer have an. There's just like, you know, what's the point? The amount of moderation that it takes, the amount of headache that comes with, you know, everything that happened with, like, the Hunter Biden laptop and all that, it's like, well, why would we even monetize this? So let's just.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I've been talking. So obviously the new year is here. Ad sales and all that stuff's happening. We've been talking to a bunch of companies, and we've. We've often mentioned Facebook, which we underutilize. And the response from all the networks is, nobody cares about Facebook.

[Richie McGinnis]

Exactly.

[Tim Pool]

There's no money. It's a dead network.

[Richie McGinnis]

It's a boomer network.

[Adam Johnson]

It's boomer memes. And basically, like, I don't know, elevated.

[Tim Pool]

Craigslist 10 years ago. It was the king.

[Richie McGinnis]

I know. I mean, Daily Caller, that was where we made most of our video revenue.

[Tim Pool]

Well, you know, you know what?

[Richie McGinnis]

It was boomer crack.

[Tim Pool]

Facebook started banning these. The companies that made money doing it. They started like, they started going after people who figured out how to monetize the platform.

[Richie McGinnis]

Exactly. You figure out the algorithm, and then they, you know, they game it. And then you're all of a sudden like, okay, well, back to the drawing board. Let's Facebook.

[Tim Pool]

Facebook ended itself.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. Which is completely stupid. Like, one of the things that people like about TikTok, not that I'm pro TikTok, but one of the things that people like about TikTok is TikTok tells you with great detail of how to expand your reach. This is what you need to do if you want to be in it, and blah, blah, blah. And Facebook is like, hides that information. They don't put your posts into feeds, and they do it on Instagram is where you see it mostly. But, like, it's like a big secret about how you can do stuff. And it's like. Like, why are you making this difficult for people to use your platform in the way that they want to? Why aren't you. Everyone knows that TikTok is eating Facebook's lunch.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

Why is it that you're not doing that with your platform?

[Richie McGinnis]

Because you have people in Silicon Valley who are completely detached from reality. And I know because I've dealt with those people running news business On Facebook. And it.

[Phil Labonte]

Is it that they're. Is it really that they're.

[Richie McGinnis]

Oh, dude, like, literally, like, is that why.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not saying they're not wrong about them being detached, but is that why they. They don't think it's a good idea to let people know how to optimize their reach?

[Richie McGinnis]

Unfit they can be the wizard of Oz behind the curtain and get away with it. And we had a dude, like, come down, and obviously, Daily Caller is viewed, you know, founded by Tucker Carlson, viewed as just an absolute trash tabloid by these people from Menlo park in Silicon Valley. So this guy comes in from Facebook. We're at the Facebook HQ, which is, like, the most beautiful building in downtown D.C. he literally comes in, puts his feet up on the table, and he's like, so you guys. You live in D.C. you know what Congress is, right? Like, yeah, he was the head of, like, Standards and Practices. He's like, well, think of me like the Congress of Facebook, like, as he puts his feet on the table, and we're like, is this a. I mean, this is kind of a legit power play if this guy is serious here. Like, it was just the degree to which they look down their nose at conservatives on the platform is. Was astounding. And, you know, it's. At the same time, it's. It's. If you look at the top news outlets on Facebook every week, Daily Wire, it's all, you know, New York Times is, like, number 10. So it is overwhelmingly a conservative, and they.

[Tim Pool]

And they set themselves on fire.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe with Dana White joining the board, he might be like, hey, guys, stop getting involved like this and let companies succeed. Facebook's a really good example of overregulation destroying industry.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, it.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Phil Labonte]

I don't know how this is back to something we talked about earlier. I don't know how reliable this Twitter account is, but someone's. It's. It. It's At Ex Alerts is saying that Trump Jr. Says that Trump has a plan to. To buy. To buy Greenland. He has a deal worked up for the purchase of Greenland, so Should be interesting. I don't know how, but I'm gonna.

[Richie McGinnis]

Work out better than Atlantic City. I hope so.

[Phil Labonte]

I hope so.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I mean, Atlantic City's got problems.

[Richie McGinnis]

Have you read. Have you read Artists?

[Phil Labonte]

Specifically New Jersey?

[Richie McGinnis]

Like, the entire second half of the book, he just spends bragging about his projects in Atlantic City and how successful they are.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, but you know what Atlanta City's problem is?

[Phil Labonte]

New Jersey.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah. I mean, that's that's exactly right, dude.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, I bring this up all the time. Hey, we, we've got like 10 casinos within an hour, hour and a half from where we are right now.

[Richie McGinnis]

Oh, you got a casino right here too.

[Tim Pool]

On your phone even? Yeah, yeah. Sports betting, it's got, it's got nuts. So yeah, in like 2000, in the 2000s, there was no gambling anywhere. There was, there were, there was Indian casinos, there was Vegas and there was Atlantic City.

[Adam Johnson]

Florida's blowing up too. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, bro, in Miami, there's like 25 casinos. Nuts. So. So Atlantic City was, was a booming. And then all the states started legalizing. Legalizing gambling. And then people were like, I don't need to drive to Atlantic City anymore.

[Richie McGinnis]

It doesn't count as casino if you can't smoke inside. Though in my opinion, most of them are banned. I know Tim hates that. No, not unless I'm at.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, everybody hates it.

[Richie McGinnis]

Not unless I'm at a $5 blackjack table. Menthols all the way.

[Tim Pool]

People to go play the casino here because of the smoking.

[Richie McGinnis]

I'll go, sure, smoking. But like do they have a $5 table? Because I do five dollar blackjack. No.

[Tim Pool]

Nope. Oh, well, 15, 15 minimum.

[Richie McGinnis]

That is way out of 10.

[Tim Pool]

They have a $5 promo table sometimes if you use their app or whatever. But, but I don't know if they have that anymore. But that place is like walking into a. It's, it's smog. It's like walking into chest. You're in Shenzhen. It's like just smoke everywhere. It's awful. You walk in for five minutes, you leave smelling like smoke. And the, not the non smoking section only has slot machines. But the poker room's not smoking. So I play poker there.

[Adam Johnson]

God, I, I, I smoked for almost a decade and I'm like 14 years quit now. Just. I smoke a cigar like twice a year, New year's and then July 4th.

[Tim Pool]

But cigars are different. You don't inhale those.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah, exactly. That's definitely. You look back and you're like, oh man.

[Tim Pool]

Dude, it is, it is miserable. Like, so that's the only casino that allows smoking in the area. And they do it intentionally because they want to steal customers. Their attitude is like, if you go to MGM or Maryland Live or Horseshoe or what else we got out here, we got another Hollywood. If you go to any of those casinos, you can't smoke. But if you come to us, you can smoke.

[Adam Johnson]

I got a personal story. So my mother in law and Susie, I'm sorry for sharing the Story publicly, online, live. She used to smoke. She was like 35 years. Smoked like a pack a day. And I can't stand the smell because I quit smoking. And the people who hate smoking the worst are the ones who used to smoke. So used to smoke.

[Phil Labonte]

I miss it.

[Adam Johnson]

I had, I had my second oldest ask her one time, when do you get the hole in your throat, Grandma? She quit like a week later.

[Phil Labonte]

She's been quit level 20 when it.

[Adam Johnson]

Was like a three pack a day. Newports. Yeah, right. But she's been quit smoking now for almost 10 years. She saved. She's got app. She tracks with the money she saved from quitting smoking. So proud of you, Sam. You did a good thing.

[Phil Labonte]

I'm not gonna do a good thing. Like if there's, if there's one. Like if a genie popped out of a magic lantern and, and said you can have one wish. Be like Marlboros that don't give you cancer, bro. Taste the same, but they don't give me cancer. Give them to me.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, it's, it's the, it's the activity, right? It's. It's after you.

[Phil Labonte]

No, it's the Marlboro, dude. No, it's the Marlboro. It's the cigarette. It's the nicotine.

[Richie McGinnis]

My one wish for my genie is a cigarette that I can smoke in the shower.

[Phil Labonte]

Cigarettes that don't give you cancer. Marlboro Reds that don't give you cancer. That's what I want.

[Adam Johnson]

And a shower gun that fires even though it's soaking wet.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, I mean, that's most guns.

[Tim Pool]

You know, back to the story. I do think trends like this and the shift. We're going to see a shift in social media, especially with this move that is going to just vaporize what we know of as wokeness in the left.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Phil Labonte]

People are sick of woke, you know.

[Tim Pool]

So then what, what, what, what do the Democrats become angry?

[Phil Labonte]

Well, there's, there's, I mean, like, look, we see the, the fight in the US or I'm sorry, in the, in the Republican Party, but there's also a fight going on in the, in the Democrat party about whether it's the progressives or the Democrats and people like Richie Torres are, is the Democrat that's trying to slide into that, you know, actual reasonable Democrat that's actually focusing on, on the working class and not about all the woke stuff. And so maybe that'll actually.

[Adam Johnson]

They're going to rebrand, right? They're going to rebrand that. They're in that Season before midterms.

[Phil Labonte]

It's going to take more than just four years, but. Yeah, yeah, because they still have to figure that the fight's going to go on for a while because WOKE is. There's a lot of people that make a whole lot of money off of. Off of, you know, racial animus and blah, blah, blah. People like Abram X Kendi and stuff like that. They make a whole lot of money off of Ben. So they, yeah, they're going to, they're going to fight to keep that to be the focus and it's going to take a little time.

[Adam Johnson]

My concern is, I believe they really are audio logs, though. They, they actually believed everything they said they want that they just didn't get it through this time.

[Tim Pool]

You're.

[Phil Labonte]

I think you're right. And like Tim's, Tim's idea of woke is the average kind of like person that, that is just listening to them. There is a small group of people that are ideologically motivated, but then the most of the people that you would consider woke don't have any kind of. They don't have any kind of allegiance to an ideology. They're just doing what is politically correct.

[Adam Johnson]

Well, maybe they had their own populist movement. Right. Woke ideology. Now we're having ours.

[Tim Pool]

So I will, I will take this time to give you the definition of woke. There are many people who have tried to define it and they all do it from a particularly myopic view. And I try to understand WOKE from every possible. Like, what is the unifying factor of why this person and this person over here see this thing and say it's woke? This person over here says it's critical theory. This person over here says it's gay stuff stuff. And I'm like, whoa, whoa. What's the overarching pattern?

[Richie McGinnis]

Postmodernism?

[Tim Pool]

It's not, it's. It's cult like adherence to liberal social orthodoxy.

[Richie McGinnis]

But what is lip. So war with.

[Tim Pool]

War with Ukraine is not postmodernism.

[Richie McGinnis]

No, no, but, but when you say liberal orthodoxy, that seems to me to be an oxymoron because the definition of the word liberal.

[Tim Pool]

Liberal, that it's not an orthodox big literal. Yeah, it's a reference to a political faction of individuals that unify around one political faction that we know that we view as what liberal is. It's not the actual word liberal. Don't in America progressive and liberal have meanings, but there's colloquial understanding of what the words mean. So when we say liberal or conservative, we're not literally saying the true definition of a conservative who's conserving what traditional values. And when we say liberal, we don't talk about classical liberals. That's why we define classical liberals. Classical liberal. So you can call it leftist or you can call it politically left social orthodoxy, but that's why you can have pro Ukraine war, pro feminist, anti Israel. None of it makes sense other than they must be unified around what their social order says. The best example of this is a Jaguar commercial. Jaguar. You see, I said it. Where that commercial came out was called woke by everybody, but there's zero politics in it. It's literally just goofy looking art people. Why do they call it woke? Because it, it represents the cultural esthetic of the left, of liberalism. Postmodernist art.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So when they say, you know, James Lindsay says woke is, he says, nothing is more woke than critical theory. And I'm like, that Jaguar commercial had nothing to do with critical theory. It simply donned the aesthetic of liberals and it was deemed woke. So when people say woke, they're referring to the liberal orthodoxy. And then when we criticize wokeness, there's an illogical adherence to these ideas that make no sense. Hence when I mentioned that movie earlier, Blink twice and the woman says, we can't call the police because white men won't believe women. And we scream believe women, but they won't listen to us. You go, that's not correct. That is illogical. And you are fervently adhering to the social concepts these, this orthodoxy, despite it being false.

[Richie McGinnis]

But don't you think this is real quick.

[Tim Pool]

Sorry. This is why Blair White, who is trans, is not woke despite being transgender. That's critical gender theory. Jimmy Dore, a socialist, is not woke. But what do you mean? He adheres to critical theory because they defy the orthodoxy. But.

[Richie McGinnis]

So I would argue that the Jaguar commercial is evidence of critical theory in that it takes all the archetypal ads for cars, guys driving big engines and fast car, and the vroom, vroom, but that's. They break down all those paradigms. So that's not the archetype critique of the, of the archetype. So that's. But it's not his critical theory.

[Tim Pool]

A good majority of car commercials are moms driving and pressing their brakes down.

[Richie McGinnis]

What about lack of rock?

[Tim Pool]

That's some cars. It's not an archetype. Like you're talking about Jag.

[Richie McGinnis]

Jag is like a cool, you know, like, fast.

[Tim Pool]

Like there's no, there's no argument made in the commercial. No one politically States anything about oppression or anything. It was literally just people dressed in a, in a liberal aesthetic.

[Adam Johnson]

I think woke orthodoxy is, is. Orthodoxy is different because it's a. It was not clearly defined a few years ago because it was an ever evolving idea. It's the NPC switching out. Now it's Ukraine now.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly.

[Adam Johnson]

Now it's that. So the orthodoxy was a living, breathing embodiment, but now it's become so identifiable because now it is orthodox. There is a, there is a set.

[Tim Pool]

I disagree.

[Adam Johnson]

Product of images that we see. We say, oh, that's woke. That's woke. That's woke. Jaguar commercial.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Adam Johnson]

You look at it and say that's woke.

[Tim Pool]

That's because it's the current cultural aesthetic. And so it does change. You are right. The NBC switching out the chip for the next chip. That's why there's no. It makes no sense when Hasan Piker says we have to support Ukraine. But then he goes, the military industrial complex is bad.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah. You're like, I know.

[Tim Pool]

Because he's saying whatever.

[Richie McGinnis]

Cenk actually made that. The flip, the flip from, you know.

[Tim Pool]

It'S because woke people say whatever has to be said to align with woke, despite it's being, it's being illogical. So again, Blair White trans, but not woke. But that's critical gender theory. Jimmy Dore Critical theory itself, but not woke. Because both of these individuals challenge the social order of liberals. So anything outside of that order is called far right. So me, it's like I can be a pro progressive tax along with Steve Bannon. I can be moderately pro choice, but against abortion, the point of birth. They say I'm far right. Well, I'm certainly not woke, even though I have many liberal views. Because woke is when you adhere to them to their whatever, whatever the chip is in the brain that's woke. You have to adhere to whatever they say or you're canceled. And there is an aesthetic to it. There are ideas behind it. There, there, there are some ideas that are more common than others. But in the early days of wokeness, intersectionality was a core component. But now they're focused more on, you know, critical gender theory.

[Richie McGinnis]

Less identitarian based upon, you know, your ethnic boundaries is what you're saying. And it's more based upon gender gen, like on your.

[Tim Pool]

It was, it was race style choices. Race is still a component of it, but race has, has taken a backseat to gender. The big component of focus right now is gender theory. Hence the Jaguar commercial looked very much in line with the non binary aesthetic. That's what People say it's woke. It's the liberal aesthetic. Okay, that's. That's. I think you get the point.

[Richie McGinnis]

Do you have. Do you want a hot take?

[Tim Pool]

Sure.

[Richie McGinnis]

We don't know what a woman is in the modern context.

[Tim Pool]

Because liberals don't.

[Richie McGinnis]

No, we don't. Because women in the modern world have, you know, you have all these different waves of feminism, and you have all these women who are my age who are, you know, 30, mid-30s, and they've been sold a lie on. Okay. I have to live, you know, I have to go work really hard, be a boss, boss girl. And then at the sacrifice of, you know, the. The psychological. The physiological clock that they have. Right. So now there's a backlash against that, where young people are realizing that they have to rearrange their priorities. And we don't really know what a woman's role is per se in America today.

[Tim Pool]

Well, I. I get what you're trying to say, but I don't think it's fair to say we. Because as Americans, the average American would say it is like a homemaker.

[Richie McGinnis]

I don't think the average American would say that.

[Tim Pool]

That a woman's role is. Yeah, I'm talking about us here. We say we. America has destroyed the. The role, the feminine gender role. So here, here's the thing. They say they want to get rid of gender roles. You can't. There's. There is the masculine role and there is the feminine role. They. They exist. They will always exist. You can erase one of them. But simply putting shoehorning women into the masculine role doesn't change the fact that it's the traditional masculine role.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So go back 50,000 years. There's a masculine and a feminine role today. Telling women to be a CEO is just saying for them to act like a dude.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

It's not. It's not eliminating.

[Richie McGinnis]

Oh, but that's. That's exactly my point, which is that we're now realizing how big of a lie that was. Was like, oh, you know, is if you wear pantsuits, you know you're going to be happy. Right. Or if you whatever, like, spend 20 years worth toiling away at a law firm, then that's going to make you. That's the. That's the reward.

[Tim Pool]

Watch Landman.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. I love that show.

[Richie McGinnis]

Just Billy Bob Thornton just rolling his eyes like, what's his.

[Tim Pool]

I forgot the character played by Ali Larder. But she's like, my job.

[Richie McGinnis]

Younger one or the. His ex wife.

[Tim Pool]

He's like, his. His current one.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And she's like, my job is to keep my man happy so that it gives me money to buy stuff. And she's like. So she goes to the gym, she works out. She's like, we're building butts. And she's like, I'm gonna make my man happy. Like, that's very much antithetical to what modern. The modern American, you know, would say is the woman's role.

[Richie McGinnis]

But like, well, Taylor, yeah, Sheridan does tap in on that, and he's really good at that. Like, that whole show is just like, you know, Billy Bob represents kind of like, you know, the. The American who's not in step with all of the modern times.

[Tim Pool]

It's a good show.

[Richie McGinnis]

And his daughter's like, I turn off the show, though, after his daughter was like, I'm gonna go sleep with my daddy. When she said that to her with her boyfriend in like the second episode, she like, gets mad at her boyfriend. She's like, I'm going to sleep with my daddy. And she goes, jumps in.

[Tim Pool]

We got to go to super chats. So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that, like, button? Subscribe to the channel. Share the show with everyone. You know, my friends. At 10, we're going to the members only uncensored show [e-mail] join us. Become a member because it's what makes the company operate as a member. You are joining in our efforts to bring you real news, challenge the fake news narratives, and of course, you'll get access to our uncensored Members only shows Monday through Thursday at 10pm if you just sign up right now for 10 bucks, there's a waiting period until you can submit questions because we have to screen out the. The crackpot weirdos who are trying to basically come after us, screw up the whole program. But if you spent 25 bucks, you can jump the line. And there had to be some kind of gate, but it seems to work. And we mostly get rid of the people who are just trolling and trying to cause problems and ruin the show. So become a member because it's what. It's. It's. It's how we. We make all of this possible. And the bad news for all of you is that we did not sell to Jews. And so that means we do need money. Money, because we are not being bankrolled, despite the fact that people ran with that lie, then got mad at me because it was my responsibility to come out and debunk the lie, Man, I gotta tell you. And then we launched Casper Franchising we have dozens, dozens of people who want to open their own Casper locations. And people are mad that I'm like, I had an announcement on the January. January 1st. Like, bro, we've been working on this thing for, like, a year. We built out this whole plan for, like, how to run the coffee shops, what they're going to look like, how we're going to assist, what the money gets. Andrew Gruel is amazing. He's leading the charge on this one.

[Adam Johnson]

Love Chef Gruel.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, he's amazing. And we're super excited to be working with him on this because he's the expert, and we did all this hard work, and we couldn't legally say anything. I was often like, we can't talk about it. On the 1st, we have a big announcement, and all of these crazy people who think the Jews are in charge of everything are like, tim's owned by Jews and blah, blah. They're nuts. And I'm just like, y'all, you people are coffee cabal. I want to tell you guys, I hope all of those people who believed that insanity. And it's funny, too, because they're tweeting at me, and I'm like, guys, on Tim cast IRL, I said it was 100% fake.

[Richie McGinnis]

I mean, there were legitimate reporters who were insinuating that kind of stuff.

[Tim Pool]

Are there legitimate reporters on Simcast IRL twice, I said, it is not true. And then on the Members only, I said, 100% false. And people are like, why didn't you tell us it was fake? It's like, bro, you guys went nuts. And I said on my show it was not true. Jew. So the bad news is we don't have the Jew money, okay? Because we didn't sell to. And it's funny, too, because Daily Wire is not even owned by Jews. Like, one guy is Jewish, but maybe we have your money. You go to timcast.com you become a member. How about that? All right, here we go. Shane H. Wilder says, welcome back. It's 2025. Let's do this. It's great to have you back. I'm glad Raymond still has all of his limbs for now. And a shout at the pop culture crisis reached 300,000 subs on new Year's Eve.

[Adam Johnson]

Holy crap.

[Phil Labonte]

Good for that.

[Tim Pool]

Pop culture crisis is getting too big. 300,000.

[Adam Johnson]

Time to sell them to the Jews.

[Tim Pool]

I think we can get PCC to a million. I think we can do it. Yeah, I think we can get him to a million.

[Phil Labonte]

Absolutely.

[Tim Pool]

We're gonna do a big marketing blast off For. For pcc. We'll see. We'll see. All right, we got Quantum Strange corks. As a woman was forced to admit that she lost an argument to a man today. Welcome back. Tim Cass.

[Adam Johnson]

Oh, my God. Savage.

[Richie McGinnis]

Wow.

[Tim Pool]

There we go.

[Phil Labonte]

Good stuff.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's see, let's see. Griffus says welcome back and happy New Year. My father passed away this week. If you could find it in your heart to donate to his memorial, we'd be forever grateful. Give, send, Go. Eric Vanaman. Sorry to hear, brother. Sorry to hear. Jason Dixon says shout out to Adam Loved you on Roman Nation.

[Adam Johnson]

Last night I was on Roman Nation. They are gentlemen over there. They were fantastic. A good interview, lots of good conversation, open conversation. It was fun.

[Tim Pool]

You know, we need. We need a velvet jacket, cigar and whiskey. Gentlemanly show.

[Adam Johnson]

Let me know.

[Tim Pool]

There you go.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Hosted leather chairs and a nice lectern.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah, high back leather chairs, leather bound books.

[Phil Labonte]

Monologue is from behind a lectern. And then you go and you sit.

[Richie McGinnis]

Down, you pick up the lectern, and then you sit down in the chair.

[Phil Labonte]

Open with a monologue. Two, three minutes, go ahead and talk about whatever's going on the day. And then you go over and sit down in the nice leather chairs.

[Tim Pool]

We make a collapsible lectern that folds into the shape of a suitcase. And then you place it down and then unfold it, lift it up, and then.

[Richie McGinnis]

And it has like, a bump stock.

[Adam Johnson]

So Kyle Rittenhouse has asked me to build him a lectern, and I'm building him one. And he is, in exchange, building me an AR15.

[Tim Pool]

Ah, how fun. How fun.

[Adam Johnson]

Lots of fun.

[Tim Pool]

All right, let's go. Just, just, just because I'm free, Trump shouldn't show up for sentencing. The city of New York is way too dangerous for Trump to show up in person. The judge and DA should be charged for violation of rights. I agree. I don't think Trump should go. I think Trump should just be like, I'm not going.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

What are you going to do about it?

[Adam Johnson]

Yep. I think this is a moment for Desantis to be like, yeah, you can't take him.

[Tim Pool]

Well, they said they're not going to give him prison. What if that's a trick? Trump shows up and the judge says, you know what? I changed my mind. Five years bang, remand. What Secret Service going to do? So if Trump doesn't go and they're like, we're going to put out a warrant for your arrest. And they'd be like, good luck, this.

[Richie McGinnis]

Isn'T a jury trial, right?

[Tim Pool]

No, it's a sentencing.

[Richie McGinnis]

He's convicted, right? Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

So the judges. This is the point where anybody in the world with 34 felonies is told, you're going to prison. So here's the crazy thing. If they don't give Trump prison time, it just. It shows the emperor's got no clothes. So wait, what? You mean to tell me you convicted a guy, 34 felonies, and then you said, we're not gonna. We're not. No penalty. Just. Just Ben the gambler. Get out of here. Who's gonna believe it's real? They have no choice but to put Trump in prison. Otherwise, they're just proving they lied about everything.

[Adam Johnson]

Yes, I'm convinced they will put it.

[Richie McGinnis]

In basically the last four years in a nutshell.

[Phil Labonte]

So you think they're gonna put him in prison?

[Adam Johnson]

If he shows up, yes. I think he should stay home. The question is, in West Palm, he's just shut the bridge off.

[Tim Pool]

The question is, why would they stop here? We talked about this a few months ago. Will they put Trump in prison? And I can't remember who was on the show. They were like, why would they stop here? And I'm like, that's a good point. Why would this be the one time they say, we're gonna let out? We're gonna let Trump go every step of the way. They accused him of being a traitor.

[Richie McGinnis]

How many impeachments are we gonna have this time around? 2, 3? We should check politics.

[Tim Pool]

I don't got Congress.

[Phil Labonte]

It won't. Yeah, it won't. It'll be after the.

[Adam Johnson]

And you know, he'll brag about it. It's the most impeachment beast. Presidents. No one's done it like I've done it before.

[Phil Labonte]

Only if he. Only if he doesn't get removed from office.

[Richie McGinnis]

I've been saying teflon Don for 10 years.

[Tim Pool]

We got. We got Jason Dixon here says, Tim, can I get a shout out to Roman Nation? Roman Nation, one of the fastest growing streaming podcasts. Adam Lectern guy was on it last night.

[Phil Labonte]

Good guy.

[Tim Pool]

Jason, I hope you have checked out our Casper.com franchising section, because it would be rad if you were to open the first location. Now, here's what I want to say about all that. People are like your franchising before you even opened yours. Because in the process of opening our first location, what we were actually working on was the layout designs, the aesthetic, the colors, sourcing product, all of these things that make a business so we have the core elements of what the business foundation is, and then we have problems with our location due to it being a historical building. So the franchising is done, and now we're basically saying we're done with the. With. With West Virginia on this one, and we're going to probably open in a different place where we can. We've got all the equipment, everything's ready to go, but they just wouldn't work with us.

[Richie McGinnis]

We got a preview on, like, what. What the layout's going to be. Is there going to be a beanie logo, like the Gregory's Coffee, but with a beanie?

[Tim Pool]

There is not.

[Richie McGinnis]

Not like a Starbucks, like a. Like a satanic siren?

[Tim Pool]

No, but we have really cool 3D renderings and drawings and color schemes and all that stuff. And there's. There's really cool designs for this. So if you go to Casper.com, you can click the button and learn all about it. It. And. Yeah, there you go. All right, we'll grab some more super chats. We already have. I will just say I don't want to give out the exact number because I don't know the rules or whatever, but. Dozens. Dozens.

[Richie McGinnis]

What if you had a conversation cafe like they had in the Chaz to talk about politics and stuff?

[Tim Pool]

That's kind of the idea. We want to open physical locations so that when you go to. You're going to Walmart or whatever, some soccer mom is going to Target to pick up, you know, some. A pair of socks. She's like, I'm gonna grab a coffee. And then she walks outside, and there in the strip mall is a Casper location. When she walks inside, there's a TV on the wall, and the TVs playing Tim cast or it's playing Crowder or Viva Frye, and it's on low volume. But as she's sitting there and she goes, I'll have iced coffee with a little room for cream. As she's standing there, they're making it. She looks over, and there's Crowder being like, the Democrats are doing X, Y, and Z, and the Republicans are doing.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah, CNN in there.

[Phil Labonte]

You know, it's gonna be Crowder dressed like a woman.

[Tim Pool]

It's like seeing in the airports. 100%.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

I think a 60% chance of that.

[Richie McGinnis]

Everybody's all buzzed up on coffee.

[Tim Pool]

We want this type of show and messaging to be in physical spaces all over the place to. To get into the real world where people are out shopping. And then people are going to say, cast, brew coffee. I Want a cup of coffee? They're not going to think twice. They're going to walk in. They're not going to hear music and soft whatever playing. It's going to be news shows and cultural shows. And that's, that's, that's the plan, man. And the people who are going to open them are people who like this show and we're going to offer up support. It's like, imagine opening a business and, you know, you've got marketing. We're going to be shouting you out. I can't say too much because I, because Andrew Gruel is basically the head of this one. He's, like, leading the charge. But I want to say, like, I fully intend to show up to these locations. I want to do Tim cast IRL from these locations. Special events, grand openings. We want to have a physical space where people can gather. Because the founding fathers organized a revolution by meeting in bars and pubs and.

[Richie McGinnis]

Chucking tea off of a boat.

[Tim Pool]

That, that was basically it. They threw T off a boat. They were like, yo, we don't, we don't agree with how you're doing these things. Then they said, well, now we're taking your guns. Actually, what they said was, we're gonna pass these, these the intolerable acts. Because you threw our tea over, you won't pay for it. And they're like, screw you. And then they said, we're coming to occupy and we're gonna occupy. You can't have guns. My cold, dead hands. Then the British were like, so be it. We don't know who fired the first shots at Lexington and Concord. But then everyone started fighting.

[Adam Johnson]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

A year and one month later, the Founding father signed a Declaration of independence. We were at war for a year before they even declared independence. People need to understand that. All right. Jacob Thomas Hickman says, bet you won't read this one, Tim boy. You're correct. I won't. If you started, if you had a Super Chat by saying, I won't read it, I'll just skip over it. But if you just literally wrote what you wrote, I probably would have read it. It. But I, I, I, I'm just kind of over the. But you won't read this one. Is it supposed to, like, trick me into reading it?

[Phil Labonte]

Thank you for the money, dummy.

[Tim Pool]

You could have literally just.

[Richie McGinnis]

Hey, hey, don't, don't hate on the Super Chat.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, no, he gave a good amount of money. I'll read your super chat. He gave 50 bucks.

[Richie McGinnis]

Super chat. 50 bucks.

[Tim Pool]

He sent that Super Chat. Trump lied about the infamous life saving immigration graph. Pull it up and check the red arrow at the bottom. It points to January 2020 instead of 2021. This shows a massive spike in illegals. I don't. I don't respect the first sentence there, but I do appreciate the super chat. So I did read it for you. There you go, buddy. All right, Jacob. Polly says, I'm tired of the big corporations already hoping to ship to our side. I don't trust them at all. We need some good legislation against corporation. Maybe a little bit of progressivism, Phil. Mega ism. We need Huey Longback. Let me tell you, this was always going to happen. They're flipping over because they knew they were on the wrong side of history. I predicted this. I told you that people we don't like and trust are going to jump ship in two seconds and they realize they lost what we need. Instead of going, oh, man, Facebook. Oh, they're. They're figuring it out. We just say, nah, we're going to be on X. Instead of saying like, oh, did Starbucks finally change their tune? Nah, nah, we're going to cast. Brew coffee. Coffee. Black Rifle has coffee locations as well. But I know a lot of people don't like Black Rifle over the whole Kyle Rittenhouse thing, but I got no beef. I don't know. What do you guys think about that one?

[Phil Labonte]

I think a lot of that was overblown and. And blown out of proportion and misrepresented.

[Richie McGinnis]

So, yeah, I don't know why the coffee is so political and that in.

[Tim Pool]

That respect, because Kyle Rittenhouse is wearing a black rifle shirt. We have nothing to do with them.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah. And Kyle's cool with those guys now, if I understand correctly, they hung out and talked about it, so. Know, there's a lot of people that. That are still cranky in the pants about it.

[Adam Johnson]

You know, it's election season. I think a lot of people were just high energy and low tolerance, and if you're not a part of us, then you're against us.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Adam Johnson]

Kyle's a good kid. He went through a lot.

[Phil Labonte]

Yeah, he did.

[Adam Johnson]

And I don't think that we should expect anything from him other than, we're sorry we weren't there for you. More like this. This kid went through.

[Phil Labonte]

Yep.

[Adam Johnson]

The mud dragged through it.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah. In fact, I think it was largely conservatives who used him for their own personal gain. And he had some people in his corner after the trial that, you know, wanted to use him to grab some of the limelight. And, I mean, he's 17, 18, years old. He was 18 years old when.

[Adam Johnson]

He's got some good advocates now. AK guy, Brandon Cody. Don't. Operator. They're. They're good people. I fully think they're trying to help him. Him bring him under his wing. But I was out there hanging out with him. He did. He lost a bunch of weight, this buddy. I think he's doing really well, so good for him.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. He said being fat is a choice.

[Adam Johnson]

Correct.

[Tim Pool]

And then he posted him when he was fat and him when he was fit.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

Very based. Yep. You can do it. I believe in all of you. I will. I challenge Phil, because Phil. Phil, tweet. You tweeted the calories in, calories out thing. Yes, and it's true. But the issue I take with it is your average person counts calories and doesn't understand why they're getting fat. And it's because one. I mean, how those things are widely inaccurate. Casey Neistat had a great video where he actually went out, went around buying things from stores, brought them to a lab where they broke them down and actually measured the calories. And it was way crazier. Subway actually was really good. It was very low. And so what happens is I've seen so many people, they're like, like, I'm counting my calories and I'm. I'm at 1700 for the day, and I'm gaining weight. It's like, what are your calories? They're like, I need a lot of macaroni and cheese.

[Richie McGinnis]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And it's like, okay, so you're tired and you're sitting around all day. It's like, dude, counting calories doesn't cut it.

[Phil Labonte]

You can you. Because people don't know what their baseline calorie uses either.

[Tim Pool]

Right. And so all they do is they. But it's not even that. It's like, you know, I think Neil DeGrasse Tyson did this thing where he's like, all that matters is that you consume less calories then you put out. And it's like, no, because if you're not eating protein, you see that. You see that woman who was a fruitarian who died recently?

[Adam Johnson]

These macros had to be converted to something. So it's. Sorry, go ahead.

[Tim Pool]

No, there's this viral story about a woman who was a Fruitarian vegan for 20 years, and she looks like she weighs 100 pounds soaking wet, and her arms are skeletons, and she's like, I only eat fruit. And it's like.

[Phil Labonte]

Malnourished.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, yeah, Horribly malnourished. So if you eat 2, 000 calories of like just carbs and no, I'll tell you this, if you don't have any fat, you die. It's called rabbit starvation. So when they say all that matters is calories in, calories out, all people are doing this low fat stuff. So this is so when Venezuela was like, everybody breed rabbits because you're starving. It's called rabbit starvation because rabbit, rabbit fat content is so low, you don't get enough fat in your diet, you die, you need fat.

[Adam Johnson]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

So it's important to track your macros and then like actually getting your baseline metabolic rates. Not something the average person can do.

[Phil Labonte]

Nope.

[Tim Pool]

So really the only thing you can do is cut out the excess, stop having dessert, start exercising.

[Phil Labonte]

Just exercising.

[Richie McGinnis]

Cast, brew coffee, important breakfast and lunch.

[Phil Labonte]

Like people, if you like, I know that people want to say, oh, I'm on this diet or I'm taking this diet or whatever, getting in cardio. And if you go and burn 500 to a thousand calories in a day just doing cardio and exercise on top of whatever your normal stuff is, then, and you try to limit your calories, you will lose weight because you, you really need to have that exercise in there too.

[Adam Johnson]

And it is a lifestyle. I mean, my wife and I, we bought weighted vests, we go for a walk every night. It's a chance to connect. It's like a three quarter mile walk. But we're walking around, we're burning calories and we're chit chatting. Like there's a way to make this a positive thing as well.

[Richie McGinnis]

So I could carry a turn too. That's a good workout.

[Tim Pool]

I think walking is everything. I think it's really that simple. Walking people. You know, I keep seeing all these things about like Japan eats this and you know, India eats this and Germany eats this. And I'm like, yeah, but we should actually measure how much people walk. In the United States, people don't walk.

[Richie McGinnis]

It's like Wally or Wally, you know, the guys in the floating chairs.

[Tim Pool]

There was that, there was that graph where everyone's like, around this time, people started gaining massive amounts of weight and they were blaming like processed food, something. And I was like, bro, it's the Internet. Once work went remote and social interactions were remote, people stopped walking to places to meet and they started just talking online.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yeah, and the Uber eats, you know, you don't even have to just press a button shows up at your door. So now people don't even know how to cook. The kids I coach in College, they literally don't know how to cook pasta.

[Tim Pool]

Oh, dude, you, you probably like. I bet the Average person burned 700 calories per day from the daily activities of going to the store and buying something. And now they're wondering why they're gaining weight. And they're like, dude, I eat the same thing. Here's a question too. And people are like, when I'm in Europe and I eat, man, I don't, I don't gain as much weight when I come to the United States. Okay, fair point on the seed oils and the tartrazine and all that stuff too. But also consider when you're in a foreign country, are you walking to places versus are you sitting down and ordering on doordash or something?

[Adam Johnson]

You're also visiting places. You have an itinerary. You're going places, right? I also think maybe porn actually plays a, a big role in this. You used to go out on the weekends, you would go date, you go find a mate, you go to a bar, you dance, right? You would be active at night. You're. You're finding someone. We have porn now. We sit in our homes. We don't go trying to find those people.

[Tim Pool]

And also, the hanky panky itself burns calories. And young men and women ain't doing that so much anymore either.

[Adam Johnson]

Nope.

[Tim Pool]

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[Adam Johnson]

Oh, good Lord. Susie, love you. Thank you for letting me go around so much and have fun with my friends. You can follow me on Twitter. It's at Lectern Leader. And come have a good time.

[Tim Pool]

What if Trump is like, on the 20th? We're gonna give a pardon to everyone Lectern except the Lectern guy. Not him. None for him.

[Adam Johnson]

I would understand that. I'm kind of a horrible person.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

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[Richie McGinnis]

Oh, and happy birthday, Mom. Happy Insurrection Day.

[Adam Johnson]

Nailed it.

[Richie McGinnis]

Yep.

[Tim Pool]

All right, everybody, we'll see you all [e-mail] in about a minute. Thanks for hanging out.