
Tim, Phil, & Shane are joined by Nick Adams to discuss Trump crushing the Democrats in new polls, anti-Israel protests crash AOC Town Hall, Shiloh Hendrix fundraiser going viral & raising over $600k, and Catholics outraged over Trump posting...
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You know there's a lot of bad press for Donald Trump and despite all of this, the new poll that that's coming out from Fox News is showing that Democrats favorability has hit a new low and the GOP is the favorite. Despite that. You know, they're still saying Democrats are expected to win in the midterms as of right now, even though Republicans are better off. Now. I don't like singular polls for obvious reasons. So we backed this up, this, this one up with civics. Sure enough, finding the exact same thing. Democrats are going down. They're down and getting worse and they are spiraling. So how is it that the media keeps up this narrative of Trump bad? You know what, I assume at this point there's a small faction of anti Trump obsessed people that watch literally every single piece of news content about them and then regular people largely carry on with their day. But we do got a bunch of other news outside of the obvious political stuff. Trump says he wants to bring back Alcatraz. I okay, he wants it as a symbol to strike fear, to the hearts of criminal aliens. And so yeah, we'll talk about that. And then of course we have the Shiloh Hendricks story. This is a woman who allegedly used a racial slur on a child against a child and some guy filmed her, uploaded the video trying to ruin her life, trying to cancel her. Instead, she has near $700,000 raised. Now. Matt Walsh put his video out earlier where he said good, this will stop cancel culture showing these people that if you try to do this it will backfire. And he says she raised half a million. Hope she raised raises half a million more. So we'll get into all of those news stories, my friends, but before we do, we got a great sponsor. It is Underdog Fantasy. Check out play underdog fantasy.com you can use code TIM to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits and a free pick. My friends, the NBA playoffs are here and Underdog is the place to play. If you're a fan looking to cash in on all your favorite players. Performances available in over 30 states, including California, Missouri and Texas. Just pick higher or lower on two or more player stats for a shot to win real money. Underdog just dropped their playoff basketball promo. You can play your way to increasingly bigger boosts each round of the playoffs. Start a playoff series by using your game one boost and continue boosting each following game to unlock the next one. The longer the series, the bigger the boosts. Use promo Code Tim and get up to $1,000 in bonus credits when you make your first deposit. Download the app today. Turn every bucket into a W. With Underdog, you can click the link in the description below, shout out thank you for sponsoring the show. Don't forget, head over to timcast.com click join us to become a member of our Discord Server. We just filmed the pilot episode of the Culture War Live, which will be airing on Friday, and it was a hoot with all of our members there, many of them actually joining us on stage in the debate. And it got really interesting. Couple of liberals showed up and decided to join in the debate as well, and we're planning on expanding it, doing more. It's going to be a lot of fun. So if you want to be involved in that, you got to join our Discord server, which is a community of tens of thousands of people where you can hang out, share ID ideas, meet people. A couple people have gotten married. I think a couple different groups have gotten married through the Discord. Yeah, I see people nodding their heads over there. Isn't that crazy? Maybe that'll be you I don't know. Seems unlikely. But go to timcast.com sign up today, click join us. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Nick Adams.
Nick Adams
G'day, Tim. Great to be here. First time on the show.
Ian Crossland
Loving it.
Nick Adams
Having a great time already. Should be good. Do you want me to tell them a little bit more about who I am?
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Who are you?
Nick Adams
Okay, well, as you can probably tell, I was born down under but destined to be on legal immigrant, naturalized US Citizen have gone on to live the American dream was with President Trump from day one. 16 June 2015 became President Trump's favorite author. Run a big organization that is all about making sure that the next generation of Americans understand what it means to be an American. So we have kid friendly versions of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers so that they understand the founding values. Presidential appointee since 2020, since President Trump's first term, he put me in the board of the Smithsonian, the Wilson Center. So I've been there. I've got about 3 1/2 million followers on social media. Starting a new organization called 1A warriors, which is all about protecting the First Amendment and freedom. Not just freedom of speech, but freedom after speech. I'm maga, America first. Small, but when government is needed, I believe it should go hard fast and get results. I think the Democrats are about three things. Illegal aliens, criminals and perversion.
Ian Crossland
Sounds about right. All right, well, this will be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Shane hanging out.
Unknown
Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live. Last night I had a chef who worked at Bohemian Grove for eight years. He'd climbed the Owl. He'd seen the sacrifices, shared some pictures from inside the club. Pretty wild episode. You can find that on YouTube. And rumble @ Tales from the Inverted World. We go live every Sunday at 6pm Eastern. What's up?
Phil Labonte
What's up, Shane? I am Phil. That Remains. I am. My name is Philip Monte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band all that Remains. I'm an anti communist and a counter revolutionary. So let's get into it.
Ian Crossland
Here's the news from Fox News, ladies and gentlemen. FOX News poll. Democrats favorability hits new lows. Still favored over GOP in 2026 midterms. Now this is, this is a story I've used. Admittedly it is from last week when this poll dropped, but it is a consistent trend that we have seen and now we're backing it up with civics data. We've Got this. Do you have a favorable or unfavorable view of the Democratic Party? And it is 59% unfavorable, 30% favorable and declining. And you compare this with the Republican Party and you have 56% unfavorable, still not very good, but better than Democrats and 38% favorability. Now, the reason this matters is we've got JB Pritzker calling out Democrats. We've got AOC getting heckled by Democrats. You've got Beto O'Rourke now slamming Democrats is lazy and weak. David Hogg trying to primary Democrats. It is a free for all of chaos in the Democratic Party. They are spiraling out of control. And despite all of the hit pieces, all of the negative press that Trump is facing, he is still more favorable than most. I think all of the Democrat personnel, none of them are registering. So, panel, why is this happening to the Democrats? And how is Trump still beating him?
Unknown
I'm surprised David Hogg hasn't helped the image of the Democratic Party.
Ian Crossland
Oh, yes.
Nick Adams
Shocking.
Unknown
Isn't that crazy?
Nick Adams
Absolutely shocking. Can't believe it. David Hogg, you know, I think he's had a charisma bypass, old David. But, you know, at the end of the day, it is kind of a symbol of where the Democrats are at. Like I say, they have become the party of illegal aliens, crime and perversion. I mean, you even look at one of the stories that came out earlier today about how the Trump administration, rfk, are protecting Beagles. Beagles have been, you know, killed Fauci. Right. They're the evil Fauci. And it used to be that that kind of stuff was just the domain of the left. Right. But now they've ceded everything pretty much to conservatives, to the Trump people, and that's just a sign of their decline. The media is just an arm of the dnc, really, when you break it down, I just ignore them. They provide absolutely nothing. So, you know, I think the Democrats are in a very bad way. I don't know about you guys, but for me, since the 20th of December, it's been like Christmas every morning.
Phil Labonte
It's been pretty great, whether it be their takes on illegal immigration, which is one of the pillars that Donald Trump was elected on. And part of the reason why I think Donald Trump still has a generally positive opinion or favorability is because of his success at the border. Right. That was the thing that he made, made a. Made such a big deal about when he first ran in 2016. It's what he really ran on in 20, in 2020. You know, in 2023, leading, our 2024, leading up to this election. And, and, and he's really delivered, like, so the, the situation at the border. There's no longer thousands of illegals coming over there. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that say, well, they haven't deported enough, and I'd be among them. Right. I wanna see. I would love to see every single person that came here illegally sent home. I would love it. But he is, he is delivering on the things that people really care the most about, and I think that really matters. As for the Democrats, whether it's their take on the border or people like Democratic State Senator Scott Weiner in California making remarks like, well, if there's a sex offender registry, that somehow that's gonna. That's gonna be a bad thing for the LGBT lobby. And it's like, well, wait a minute. Why? That's a funny thing to say, but those are the kind of things that you get from the Democrats. They don't want to actually protect the vulnerable. They don't wanna protect women in women's spaces. They want men to be able to go into those spaces. They don't wanna protect children. They don't wanna protect anything at all that is good and wholesome. They literally always side with the bad guys. And they've been doing it vocally and with. With enthusiasm for the past, at least for the past 10 years.
Unknown
Inauguration speech was a stark contrast to the entire Democratic Party's platform, Like a return to law and order, beauty and legacy. You know, I love those things.
Nick Adams
Shane, you're on the money. Look, Democrats, they'll crush your business.
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Nick Adams
They'll make your home unaffordable. I mean, there is nothing that they offer in 2025 to that, to that point.
Phil Labonte
I think that it was President Trump, or maybe it wasn't, but it was. It was some Republican talking about, you know, the, the shower heads that people are allowed to buy. There is not. And, and it's because they always use climate change as a reason for telling you what kind of gas, what kind of stove you can have in your home, telling you how much, have how much water your toilet will use, telling you what you can do with your property, telling you what kind of car you can drive, telling you, essentially there's not an aspect of your life that the Democrats don't want to not only control, but make worse.
Nick Adams
Yeah, that's why Tulsi left. That's why RFK left. That's why so many ordinary voters have left. I mean, they're not even a really serious political party anymore. It's really just a fundraising pyramid scheme.
Ian Crossland
Well, you know, Trump came out and he was rather moderate, and he offered up a bunch of reasonable solutions to issues that people were concerned about. Hey, let's secure the border. Hey, let's, let's deport illegal immigrants. That was, that was. He was always on about that. He was, was favored by a lot of union guys. The tariffs are favored by a lot of the auto manufacturers. The Democrats don't understand. They keep approaching Trump as whatever. Everyone hates him, so whatever he does is bad. Okay, well, if you do that, you'll be on the wrong side of everything. Trump need only just say reasonable things. It says the joke. If Trump came out in favor of oxygen, they'd hold their breath. So that's why they've adopted the back end of every 80, 20 issue. They're like, let's choose the most unfavorable thing. They are survived, in my opinion, largely by boomers. And I mean no disrespect to boomers in general. What I'm saying is, you look at that poll out of Canada where they were tracking the election, and it said, you know, what issues do you care about? And Gen Z Canadians are like, the cost of living, jobs, housing. And when you ask the boomers in Canada, they said Trump. So you. This poll came out from Real Care Politics as well a couple weeks ago. All demographics have a net approval of Donald Trump, except boomers. And it's probably because they're watching cable TV and everybody else is out. Everybody else is watching shows like this or getting their news from social media. And they're like, okay, I get it. Trump's not perfect, but he's. I. Yeah, but if you're watching cable tv, it's the sec. It's. It's. It's the devil.
Unknown
We've talked about how the Democrat Party is faceless. They don't have, like, a real candidate right now. And then Trump is, like, the face of politics in general. And I was thinking about when I was at the debate, the primary debate in California for the Republicans, Trump wasn't there, but his absence was more of a presence.
Nick Adams
Yes.
Unknown
Than the people on stage.
Nick Adams
It's wild, conspicuous absence. Look, Trump isn't about right or left. He's about right or wrong. Right. And that's what the left and the Democrats in this country have missed, I think, for so long. And that's why people love him. Trump got elected because young people, and young men in particular, know that people like Obama and Biden cut their opportunity. They darkened their American dream. So President Trump is the embodiment of success and the pursuit of happiness, and that's the stuff that appeals to people. That's the stuff that motivates people. Having a ladder of opportunity and seeing a man that just thrives, doesn't just survive, no matter what they throw at him.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
The fact. The point that you make there, Nick, that he thrives, he really does take whatever's thrown at him. And. And, I mean, he manages to capitalize on it in a way that, in my opinion, is actually fairly unique when it comes to modern politicians. And it might be because of his experience in the business world, it might be because of his experience in the media. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but he really does capitalize on all of the negative things that they throw at him. He really has managed to figure out how to take whatever it is they throw at him and turn it around. The. The. I mean, everybody knows the mug shot he looked. It was one of the best things that's ever happened. The mug shot was great.
Ian Crossland
Have you seen his presidential portrait?
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's great.
Ian Crossland
It looks just like the mug shot.
Unknown
He loved that shot. Yeah, yeah.
Phil Labonte
I mean, he did. He liked it a lot.
Nick Adams
And. And you thought for a minute that the mug shot was going to go down as the most iconic photograph in American history, and then Butler, Pennsylvania, happens and.
Phil Labonte
Fight.
Ian Crossland
Fight. Yeah.
Nick Adams
You know, like, it's. It's. This guy is the most.
Phil Labonte
They tried to suppress that, too.
Nick Adams
I know, I know. All of it. Look, this guy is unlike anybody that we have seen, I think, in modern history. At the very least, if not all, of history, I'm on a tour at the moment. This is my new book, From Mar a Lago to Mars. And this looks at exactly the stuff that we're talking about. How can you be censured, deplatformed, impeached, twice arrested, sued, indicted. They try to kill you at least twice that we know of. Right. And this guy, just to your point, Phil, I mean, just keeps getting up and turns every setback into a setup for a comeback.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Nick Adams
And turns it to his favor. I mean, that is a manual, I think, that all of us can apply to life. And I think a lot of it is he was a student of Norman Vincent Peale. Right. He actually officiated his wedding in his first marriage. He's someone who believes in the power of positive thinking. I do think you're right. He has learned a lot from his time in business. But this is a man whose personal mettle is just. I mean, he's unshakable. He's unsinkable, and it just upsets the left to no end. And that is the most majestic thing out of all of it.
Ian Crossland
Let's pull up the story from the post Millennial, you're a war criminal. Aoc, heckled by pro Gaza constituents in Queens. Quote, I am a healthcare worker. I want to know what you're going. What you're doing about the genocide in Gaza. I can only say to aoc, you reap what you sow.
Phil Labonte
Oh, man.
Ian Crossland
There is a.
Phil Labonte
All right, that was in the Ganga.
Ian Crossland
We do not need to listen to a minute and a half of rabble rabble noise. But, aoc, you reap what you sow. This is. You know, when I see that woman standing up and screaming about Gaza, it's like, lady, I bet you couldn't point to it on a map.
Phil Labonte
No.
Ian Crossland
And I mean that somewhat half jokingly, like, maybe that's the one place she could. But tell me, point, point on the map and tell me where Gaza hurt you. Like, why do you care so much about one thing? Now, don't get me wrong. You're allowed to criticize and comment on international affairs. My point is that there are these people that can't think of anything else. The only thing that matters is some land far, far away. And this one particular war. And the reason I'm critical of it is the US Is involved in a whole bunch of really bad wars we shouldn't be involved in. Whole bunch of bombing campaigns shouldn't be involved in. But aoc, the base, they have is a spattering of hyper focused nut jobs that don't care about this country, don't focus on any of the issues of this country. And this is why I believe Democrats are going to struggle to win. Now, they may win in the midterms because that's congressional district based. You know, it's going to be one district might, you know, we only need. You only need what, like two to swing and then Democrats will get their majority. So when it comes to 28, however, I don't know how someone like AOC with that base is going to be able to stand up on a national stage and say, here's what I offer the American people. Because if she did try to come out and say something like, let's bring auto manufacturing back, they'd be like, Trump's already doing that. And then the left would go, you're a Trumpian, you're Trump. There's no way to navigate the cult in this way, in a meaningful way to actually win an election.
Unknown
They do change their minds quickly. Remember how much they were against Trump and warp speed and then adopted that. Like, right. Like they weren't against it. Like they have no moral center, no brains really.
Phil Labonte
No, they could flip flop that quickly.
Unknown
But yeah, I don't know how she claws out of this.
Ian Crossland
I do want to say, like, people have made the joke that the Republicans are the Washington Generals to the Democrats. Harlem Globetrotters.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
But it kind of doesn't work because the Republicans are winning, but kind of bad at what they do. You know, Trump won and Trump himself is doing a lot, but the Republican Party is miserable.
Unknown
Right.
Ian Crossland
And the Democrats have lost, but outside of the elections, they're doing way more to gut and rip apart this country.
Unknown
Yeah, that's why I was impressive. March of Taylor Greene, what she was saying recently about, you know, Trump doing these things, signing these orders, but they're not really codifying it in Congress. Yeah, she's not even hearing about it now. We do need that, especially before the midterms take place. So, you know, we can coalesce these things until actually like permanent law. So, you know, we do need that.
Nick Adams
Shane. Look, if President Trump has taught us one thing, it's taught us how to fight. Unfortunately, many Republicans, though, remain the jellyfish back. Yeah, yeah. And they need to do it. Look, with respect to aoc, so you go to a bar in New York City. AOC is the bartender. She makes everyone happy. She's giving away drinks left, right and centre. Her shirt appears to get smaller and your bladder appears to get Larger. Whether either of those things are true, no man can say. The next day, she sends a bill to a hardworking American in the Midwest who doesn't even drink, doesn't party, and most certainly doesn't hang out in New York City. So tell me, is that the kind of person that should be in charge of anything?
Phil Labonte
I mean, no. Look, when it comes to the, the heckler at the aoc, whatever, the town hall or whatever, I think the reason that she stood up and was making a stink about Gaza is because that's the only political issue that she knows. And it's typical of the left to, to turn on itself, especially in a time when they have. There's nothing they can do. Like, honestly, like that person that's heckling aoc, what is it that she expects AOC to do about a conflict that not only has AOC said that she's against, but that when she's only a congressperson, she's not in the Knesset, she's not in the Middle east, she's not in the. It's like to even think that she's gonna.
Ian Crossland
I thought she was.
Unknown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
You know, but to even think that she has any kind of effect is ridiculous. So that person is, it's literally like a child just crying out, out of frustration because they're angry.
Ian Crossland
This, this is why I wonder about, you know, the foundation of this country. You know, in, in this period with the founding fathers, did they know that the pop. Like was the population back then equally as childish, developmentally disabled, or is that something unique to the millennial generation?
Unknown
I think it's a bit unique to us. Look at like old school books considering no kids.
Phil Labonte
Yes, right.
Unknown
We have older people with no kids these days and a lot of those guys were tested by war at a young age. You know, they already knew suffering and how to, you know, work the land and stuff. A lot of these kids are just soft, sitting on Facebook all day.
Ian Crossland
There were people who fought in the American revolution who were born before. Born after the revolutionary period started.
Unknown
Yeah, yeah.
Ian Crossland
That's crazy.
Unknown
Super crazy.
Nick Adams
And just think about this, right? I mean, a century ago, people were lying about their age so that they could go and fight in a war. And today someone the same age or older even is, gets anxiety if, if a restaurant doesn't have a reservation system online, can't order a pizza.
Ian Crossland
Let me, let me tell you, 100 years ago there were men lying about their age to go fight a war internationally. Today you've got 37 year old millennials lying about their age At a Harry Potter convention. Embarrassed. They're so old. And everyone there is 10 years old.
Unknown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
37 year old men lying about their gender so they can go into the fat league.
Ian Crossland
The reason I bring this up is because I'm thinking, like, can we survive this? You know, and, and it's funny because people always think. There's a lot of people who think, when I say stuff like this, they imagine immediately like the earth is a molten ball of lava. Like humans and life are good. No, no, no, no. Like Rome collapsed, okay? Countries emerged, then human civilization went on. But can the United States as it is, survive? People as stupid as Ocasio Cortez? You know, one of the, one of the challenges that I see, especially in politics in general, is when you. Every new generation forgets the previous. And that's just a fact of history because we don't experience it. So there are people listening to the show right now that lived through Reagan and remember all that stuff, and they apply that knowledge to the next person they vote for. Someone like me, I think he was in for two years. I was born in 86. I have no lucidity at that age. And the only real politics I start to understand is George W. Bush. So then I vote accordingly. What did I do? I voted for Obama. Oh, boy, there you go, right? Not gonna make that mistake twice. So now I'm voting for Trump, but I meet younger people, the exact same position. We had a guy on Saturday at the Culture War Live event said, you know what if you get a President AOC and then she starts doing the things that Trump's doing, targeting J6ers and things like that. And my response was, been there, done that, Biden did all that. Barack Obama did all that. So these young guys, when Obama was in, you know, if they're 23 today, they were what, 13, 13 years old. So they did not live through or understand any of the things that Obama did that was political. So today they're like, hey, but we must apply the test that if you give power to Trump, then the Democrats will use it against you. And it's like, yeah, go ask the J6ers about no due process.
Nick Adams
So, Tim, you know the thing I would say, because this is something that I have really thought about long and hard. So if you go and ask any historian worth their salt, they'll tell you that great nations tend to last somewhere between 230 and 270 years. And obviously, next year, we celebrate our 250th birthday. A time for great Celebration, but also a time for sober contemplation. The the advantage that the United States of America has, that no, that Rome didn't have, that England didn't have, is our Constitution.
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Shane Cashman
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Nick Adams
Us this unbelievable head start. And it is the recipe, right? We don't need to reinvent the wheel. All we need to do is exercise fidelity to the Constitution and make sure that the first and Second amendments never, ever, ever go away. And I believe that not only can we reach 300 years, we could reach even longer. So we have it within us. And Alexis de Tocqueville, the famous French philosopher, he came out here and he said that America is great because America is good. If America ceases to be good, she will cease to be great. But he also said in Democracy in America that the true genius of, of these people, of Americans that he was writing about are their ability to recorrect a cultural trajectory.
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Nick Adams
Right. And we have that ability. Look how we recorrected after Obama. Look how we recorrect. Well, did we really recorrect with Joe Biden or should Joe Biden have never been in there in the first place? We'll leave that for another day. But either way, we always seem to come back as Americans.
Ian Crossland
It sounds to me like we have started 250 years ago building this tower one block at a time. And in these earlier years, there's concerns about the structure and the foundation and quick improvements are made to change things up. You know, we had the, the Articles of the Confederate Confederacy first. What was it? The Confederation Articles in confederation. There you go. And then you had the Union, then you had the Constitution. And so these, these, they Were trying to build it up. Now, after so long, this tower is swinging back and forth so dramatically that at some point it seems like it's going to swing and then just crumble apart. It's going to reach that breaking point. So you mentioned the Constitution and all these things. I largely agree with. The problem is the left doesn't agree and are hell bent on this. And they are form, they're formidable. They are half the country, or at least the fervent far left is a small portion, but has many default libs just marching in lockstep behind them, believing all of their lies. They lie every single day about every single story. I don't know how we navigate this. The example, simple example right now, One simple example. You know, one of the things that this kid asked me. And so the culture war Live. I really do recommend you watch because it is gonna be fantastic. We're editing it now. It's gonna be up on Friday. He's basically saying, why would you give Trump a pass but not Joe Biden? Now, trying to explain to a young person who didn't experience the Biden years or, you know, they were here for, but they didn't really pay attention. And now it's, you know, Trump just got in and now they're paying attention a bit more. I was explaining, listen, I could go back to everything the Democrats have done over 15 years. We can talk about the Qatar Turkey pipeline. We can talk about the Burisma scandal. We can talk about Syria. We can talk about, what was it? Operation Timber Sycamore. Was that the one where Obama was giving weapons to isis? Basically. And that, yeah, I believe was furious. Like fast and furious. And then I can say, Donald Trump comes in in opposition to all of these things, securing the border. So when Trump makes a mistake or makes a move I don't largely agree with, I'm much more forgiving than if it were to be Joe Biden. They don't know or care or understand this. They've not experienced this. To them, they're just like, don't know, don't care. You're blindly following a guy. I blindly follow a guy. So Donald Trump's response when the courts obstruct his executive authorities is to try and launch different attack vectors through his legal powers. Every step of the way, he's being blocked. Alien Enemies act, blocked standard deportations. No, you got to get it. You got to get a trial now for all of these people. I asked Wilt Chamberlain, what do we do? How do we solve this solution or this problem? Where the president is being obstructed by activist judges. He said, Congress, no sane person in this country thinks Congress can do anything. Right now. They can't. They can't pass anything. They won't pass anything. And certainly the Senate won't. It won't get through a filibuster. So now it just looks like the legislative branch will sit on its hands, the judicial branch will obstruct in every possible way, and the executive branch will keep trying to do what it wants to do to circumvent the judicial branch. What is the means by which we survive this period? Now? It could just be that it's going to get unconstitutional like during the Civil War. Abraham Lincoln's going to be like, no habeas corpus for you.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
And then after it clears up, we carry on 300, 400, 500 years or whatever it may be. If this doesn't go full conflict, if things simmer down, if we find a path towards organizing everything and stabilizing it.
Phil Labonte
There is still the possibility that the Supreme Court will rule the right way on these nationwide injunctions. Again, it is something that both liberal and conservative justices have mentioned. Kagan said that this isn't what the founders intended. Clearly the conservative justices would say, no, we don't want to see this. Honestly, I could see, I wouldn't be shocked if it was 7 to 2 when it comes down to whether or not these district courts have the authority to prevent the president from doing what he was actually elected to do. This is something that I harp on. But the President of the United States is the only political officer that is elected by the whole of the electorate. All Americans vote on the President. Congress is voted on only by their district. The Senate is only voted on by the people in their states. So the only person that's elected by the whole of the country is the President. There was a clear message sent to the, To. To the government that they. That the American people wanted a different type of government than what we had with Joe Biden based on the fact that we wanted to have. We want people that were. They wanted to stop having the illegal immigration and they wanted to have, you know, the, the illegal citizens that are the illegal. Illegal immigrants that are here sent back and all of these just judges that are trying to inhibit. That. They're trying to inhibit the will of the people. And that has to stop.
Nick Adams
Absolutely. I mean, you cannot legislate from the bench. And yet that is exactly what they are doing. And why? Because they are not constitutional loyalists. They are party loyalists. These Judges must be impeached. If there is one thing that people involved in politics in the Republican conservative side all across the country should be pouring their effort into right now, it is efforts to impeach these judges and find candidates that are going to exercise fidelity to, to the Constitution. The midterms are key. We need a MAGA Congress, a MAGA House, a MAGA Senate.
Ian Crossland
I, yes, it's gonna be the midterms. I don't wanna black pill anybody and say, you know, don't try. We have to try harder than we've ever tried for these, for these midterms. About a year and a half, a little bit more than a year and a half away. That means we've got a lot of time. But I ain't optimistic on Congress because right now there's a Republican majority. They can do whatever they want and they won't. So what do we need, 15 Democrat seats to flip Republican? I'm not convinced. Even if There was a 17 seat majority for the Republicans, they would do anything because there's nothing stopping them from doing it now.
Unknown
It's just like the first time.
Ian Crossland
It's always, it almost, it almost seems like the Republicans in Congress exist to obstruct Trump intentionally. It is the deep state stopgap to be like when Trump, you know, when the Republicans win. The Republican Congress is largely a decentralized structure and we will make sure Trump can't do anything because they could do it right now. They don't.
Unknown
It's ridiculous. Today was a pretty important day. The executive order that Trump signed on.
Ian Crossland
Gain of function research.
Unknown
Yeah, that's like a bookend to like what stopped the whole world.
Ian Crossland
It was already banned. Fauci did it anyway.
Unknown
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Why aren't they putting Merrick Garland and Fauci in prison? Fauci lied to Congress. Garland was held in contempt. They have the power now do it. And I gotta tell you, they put Steve Bannon in prison. They put Peter Navarro in prison, they tried putting Trump in prison. Merrick Garland defied Congress. He was, he was found in contempt and they did nothing. Nothing.
Unknown
RFK Jr today behind Trump as he signed the executive order was detailing the history of gain of function. I wrote it down. He said by 1969, he said the CIA said they could kill every American with, by 29 cents. With 29 cents with the gain of function that they were doing. It was like nuclear power. You know, it's insane. And this is the guy who wrote the real Anthony Fauci. And so remind people really quick foushee does mean sickle.
Ian Crossland
Well, I will say, you know, Bannon said, wait till summer. We'll start seeing arrests. Some judges have been arrested. Not overtly political. They were just aiding and abetting criminal aliens. You know, I'm not gonna get ants in my pants. You know, Cash and Dan have been there only for a few months, so I'm willing to wait and see. It's Congress I have the issue with because now they should be acting and they're not.
Nick Adams
Yeah, no, no, look, I'm 100%. I think President Trump needs to privately address Congress and tell them to get. I think we need our primaries before the midterms to be 100% about loyalty to the MAGA agenda that brought Trump to Washington. And lots of people, Tim, share your frustrations with Congress. And apart from the President telling them what we need, we need young, smart, eager and willing Republicans to run in the primaries, and we need people like Elon to support them. At the end of the day, I think that's. That's where it's all. It's all going to happen. The other thing I'd say is that a lot of the frustrations right now, been there 100. What, 103 days, 104 days. There are still a lot of those holdovers, I'm sure, in the FBI, in the Attorney General's office. I think we learned today that there were gonna be some further delays with the Epstein files. It's clear that there are still.
Unknown
There are no files.
Nick Adams
Yeah, right there. There are swampish elements that are really holding everything back.
Unknown
So that's gotta. That's gotta go.
Nick Adams
100.
Unknown
I like, I don't believe that there's files, but I would like to see more transparency, at least the effort for transparency. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but I don't like it.
Ian Crossland
Let's jump to this next story. It is a cultural revolution. My friends, MSNBC. Oh, they're salty. Maga World helps raise over $600,000 thousand dollars after a woman hurls racial slur at a child in Minnesota. So the story goes, Shiloh Hendrick going viral when she made a give send go saying, help me protect my family. $680,000. Now, the story is that she was at a park. She claims some kid was rifling through her bag taking stuff, so she called him a racial slur. Some guy started filming her. She told him to F off, then called him a Slurpee. He then posts the video trying to cancel her. She then launches a give send Go saying, give me money now. Matt Walsh came out and said she made half a million. I hope she gets half a million more. The only way to stop Cancel Culture is to show that it backfires, and it absolutely is. But there is something interesting in the comments as to why this woman is receiving so much money. The narrative for many young guys, the view that many young people. Don't get me wrong, there's older white guys who feel this way too. But a lot of these Gen Z guys grew up in a society that you were told if you're white, you're an oppressor. Minorities are allowed to insult you based on your race in the most awful ways and you can't do anything about it because you're an evil oppressor. Well, what happens? It's one thing when you've got a Gen X guy and they grow up hearing this from the TV and all that stuff, but they're coming off of blockbusting and actual racist policies in the 80s for Gen Z. They grew up at a time where most of these racist institutions have lost. It's illegal now to Blockbuster, to redline. So instead they're now being told by their teacher, you're evil. But they don't see it. They're then mocked and insulted based on their race and they're not allowed to do anything about it. You get cancel culture. And cancel culture is the unreasonable firing, firing of a person. Not, you know, it's like there's that race car driver, he lost his sponsor because his dad used a racial slur in the 80s before he was born. Yeah, that's cancel culture.
Phil Labonte
That's crazy.
Ian Crossland
I think what we're seeing now is a backlash to this white guilt, a social order where for longest time, celebrities, black celebrities could make fun of white people. Why? People were supposed to just laugh. You couldn't say anything back. Young guys don't understand why that is, why they have to be made fun of, insulted when they can't get jobs, when they can't get universities or they can't get into university. They're struggling to make ends meet while being told they're oppressors. So finally something like this happens and the dam breaks. And this is what, you know, I was talking to Carl Benjamin earlier. We had all warned about this 10 years ago that if you promote racial identitarianism like the left had been doing, it's only a matter of time before white people find the exact same path. And they say then. So then if you're going to insult us, attack us, fire us from our jobs, deny us access to universities, then we will foreign a collective and there's more of us and you'll regret it. And it seems like that's where we are.
Unknown
It's a pendulum swinging from the summer of love to now and bombs at the playground. You know, people have had enough.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, look it, I don't think that it needs to. You know, it goes without saying that it's not a good idea to call kids names.
Unknown
Don't call kids racial slurs. Not a good idea. It's a bad name. Has anyone asked if that's.
Phil Labonte
I mean, maybe, but it's like a name tag. I don't think so. But yeah, look, I mean, the, the, the fact of the matter is, just like Tim said and like Carl said and like Jordan Peterson has said, and like I've said, you can't play the racial identity game and expect the people that you're attacking with that weapon to not engage in the game. And Peterson actually made it was, was really clear about it. He was like, look, you're going to attack young white men and those young white men are going to say, I don't want to. I, not only am I willing to play your game because I don't have the guilt that say Gen X or Boomers have, but not only am I willing to play your game, but I'm going to play it to win.
Unknown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
And so it's not like the, the young people are going to be worried about if you call them names, you call them racist or whatever, they don't care. And that's something that is, that is absolutely true right now. If you, if you're at home listening to this and you're unaware, young people do not care if you call them racist. They will, they will, they will not. It will not phase them at all. And this is not something that, you know, we should be happy about, but it is the reality that we have to look forward in the next.
Unknown
The word means nothing anymore. Racist, sexist. These words have been so overused in the past five, 10, 15 years that they just doesn't mean a thing.
Phil Labonte
I agree with you, but I think that even if, like, they understand.
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Unknown
Right.
Phil Labonte
They don't care.
Unknown
Right, Right. Yeah.
Ian Crossland
You know, look, some have said this is a response to the Carmelo Anthony it's deeper.
Unknown
Sure.
Ian Crossland
Story. Yeah, yeah.
Nick Adams
Look, look, a few points. First of all, we need to transition. We need to transition from a low impulse society to a stoic, insane society that we used to be. Number two, these are words, okay? And at the end of the day, we have the First Amendment, okay? And then in terms of fundraising, you're free to fundraise for whatever you want to fundraise for. I mean, this isn't Canada. I mean, Mark Carney just came out and said that. Did you hear what he said about, about free speech and stuff? That it was a crime? I mean, so long as it was a word, there was no crime.
Unknown
You remember, words are violence.
Nick Adams
Yes, of course, of course. Right, yeah, well, we hear all of that too. But at the end of the day, I mean, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Before Black Lives Matter, race relations were pretty stable. But the BLM movement just ripped an absolute hole in things and exposed all of the many failings that have added up ever since the failure of LBJ's Great Society. If white people are angry, I mean, ask yourselves why. The marginalization created by BLM is one. Affirmative action in all its forms is another. And the entitlement culture that LBJ created is yet another.
Unknown
I mean, the race war has been like a government dream for a long time. If you've read Chaos, the book Chaos about Helter Skelter being like a made up idea from the prosecutor and Bugliosi, not really a Charles Manson thing. Like they kind of obsess over this idea of pitting the races against each other.
Ian Crossland
Well, the, the, the NAACP launched a fundraiser for the child and they've closed it now with $341,594 raised. So one, one of the narratives here is that Carmelo Anthony stabbed and killed Austin. Metcalf said he did it. He's his family's claiming it was self defense. Self defense lawyers are saying, nice try, bro. You can't stab someone for pushing you at a high school track meet. But he raised 500 some odd thousand dollars. And the responses in the givesend go were largely racial. They were talking about racial solidarity. There was a sentiment among many, not all, but many of these people that it didn't matter whether he was innocent or guilty. It mattered that he was black and they wanted to support him for that reason. So when this story then comes out, a lot of white people said, we're gonna stand by her. This is a white person being threatened. Because now you are this, this is the beast that has been awoken by dei in response, you're seeing these people, these, what's the right way to describe these people? The has been IDW types that haven't had any relevance, that they've been struggling with viewership. So they keep complaining about the woke, right? They're now pointing at this being like, aha. See, this proves it. And it's like, do you not understand? It's, it's a kind of irony. This is not the emergence of a, of an old school Klan white identitarian group. This is a reaction to a far left that is not seeking to maintain the system, it's seeking to destroy it. But of course that's the only thing they have to say when they try to get views. Seeing how, you know, they've raised all this money. Carmelo Anthony, then Shiloh Hendricks and now even the kid. I only see escalation in this regard.
Unknown
Yeah, the race wars and who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
Ian Crossland
This is, this is what I can't stand. Right. So I, I sat down with the guys from Trigonometry. I recommend you guys check it out. You hear from these centrist types, stop trying to fight back and just lay down and accept you will be a slave. That's what I, that's what I keep hearing from these people. Over the past several decades, you've had the, the dramatic increase of DEI and wokeness screaming in your face. You can't speak. We will shut you down. We will ban you. And we have pushed back and we are still pushing back. Matt Walsh is correct in this, in this regard. She, I hope she gets more money so that people realize if you want to play cancel culture, we will reverse the script on you and it'll backfire.
Nick Adams
Right?
Ian Crossland
Put a stop to it. When talking to a lot of these people, liberals are obviously going to say this to you. Trump is doing unconstitutional things. Stop. Okay, so we endured, you know what? Eight years of Obama, the murders, the targeting of conservatives and Christians. Then we get Donald Trump. They accuse him of being a Soviet spy, a traitor to his country, bogged down his first term with garbage investigations. They tried to put his administration in prison. Carter Page, Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Manafort, the list goes on. They accused him of a pee tape, the Steele dossier. After all of this, over 10 years. Then you get Biden, you get Joe Biden hunting down Gen Sixers, denying access to criminal to evidence from the Capitol. 44,000 hours of footage falsely charging many of them under the obstruction statute, which the Supreme Court struck down, and people who were walking around the property clueless about any right getting charged as well. And now, now Trump is in and these, these IDW has beens are going stop trying to win and just let them trample your rights. So I'm going to tell you this. I would prefer it. Much prefer it. None of this happened. Lady, don't throw racial slurs at children. Come on. That's despicable. However, I understand why people are donating to her. They're saying, you want to play with fire? Fire you will play with. And so now we're looking at the Trump administration. I don't want Trump to violate the Constitution, but he's not done that. He's used everything they've launched. Like the Alien Enemies act has been things that has been codified and he's allowed to do. And he's saying, I'm gonna do it. And they're like, then we're gonna challenge you. Then he says, then I'm gonna do something else. We're gonna challenge you. They are violating the Constitution with extra. With unconstitutional universal injunctions. And then I am sick of hearing from these people. Say it one more time. Trump should stop. Because if he does, the Democrats will do worse, bro. The Democrats have can and will violate your rights if slash when they get power back.
Phil Labonte
That was my big. Or that was something. I don't want to spoil the. The show from the culture war, but one of the people kept saying, oh, you know, the, the norms. And this is bad. It's a slippery slope and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, that's such a ridiculous argument because the norms have all been violated multiple times. I mean, Abraham Lincoln suspended, habeas corpus. Donald Trump isn't talking about doing it. Well, I think that Donald Trump should actually do things like that to get rid of the illegal aliens. But the idea that if Donald Trump does something that Pushes the boundaries of the Constitution. That means the whole country is gonna fall apart. That's ridiculous histrionic BS meant to freeze people and prevent people from taking action. Donald Trump needs to take action to do, to do the things that he was elected to do.
Ian Crossland
Joe Biden was, was spraying oil and grease onto the slope. He was just hosing it away with a big old fire hose full of grease. Slippery slope, have fun. We're sliding down it faster than anybody can realize. I don't want Trump to do anything unconstitutional. I do not want Trump to send people to foreign prisons. I do not want Trump to suspend habeas corpus. I want him to go golfing in Palm beach, enjoy his time, enjoy his life, help stabilize the economy, be calm and reasonable. The problem is the Democrats have not stopped waging lawfare. The orders from these judges violate the Constitution. And what is the check on judges violating the Constitution? Theoretically, it would be the legislative branch or the executive saying, no, but we're not, we're not getting a legislative branch to actually, to do anything meaningful. So the courts are saying, we hereby decree universally in this country. Trump has to allow anyone anywhere to enlist because all means, all that judge said, well, that's, that's, that's impossible and that's unconstitutional. How does, how does Trump react? I feel that no matter what happens, no matter what happens, we've got an escalation before us. If Trump says, guys, I do not have the energy to go to war and carry this fight on, so I am laying down my figurative sword and I'm going to retire, the Democrats will turn this country into a Chinese Communist Party style government. If Trump says, I will do everything in my power to maintain and stabilize this Republican form of government, Democrats are going to, they're going to say, then we're going to, we're going to one up you, we're going to drive this to the ends of the earth. I don't see the off ramp. I don't see how we go anywhere but into separation, divorce, conflict, you name it.
Unknown
I'm afraid I, I really am. Like, people need to go out there and tell their congressmen, step up and start doing stuff.
Ian Crossland
You know, I will be, I will be fair. Cuz it's a black pilly. Democrats have no leadership and are spiraling. So that is, that is somewhat indicative of Republicans just winning in the long run.
Nick Adams
Yeah. Reason for hope. Yeah, look, I think the scariest part for me, it's all scary, but the scariest part for me is definitely now what the courts are doing because no president since Andrew Jackson has face so much adversity from the courts. But this is not fair adversity. The courts are seeking to undermine the constitutional role of a commander in chief. It is not lawfare through litigation like we saw the last four years. It is lawfare through arbitrary and overly broad rulings that are intended to weaken the position of the president for one reason and one reason alone. President Trump's view on crime and illegal immigration in particular go against the deep seated ideology of many of these far left judges who are legislating from the bench. And like I said before, they should be impeached because they will destroy everything if given the opportunity. And I think we fight it by the off ramp is fighting it with organized campaigns to impeach these judges. I mean, Soros has done it for his side. We cannot be passive and allow the forces that hate President Trump, to your point, Tim, and hate America to continue winning here. We just can't. We just can't allow it.
Ian Crossland
Let's jump to the story from cnn. Trump posts AI image of himself as pope, leaving Catholics offended and unamused as conclave nears. Trump reacted. He gave a statement on this and said, I don't know who posted it. It wasn't me. Somebody posted it's a joke. And they said, well, Catholics are mad. And he's like, what you mean? You're saying they can't take a joke? It's not the Catholics. It's the fake news that's drumming this up. Well, we have this from NYS Catholic Conference on X. They said there is nothing clever or funny about this image. Mr. President, we just buried our beloved Pope Francis and the cardinals are about to enter a solemn conclave to elect the new successor of St Peter. Do not mock us. I'm going to show you some more.
Phil Labonte
Jesus.
Ian Crossland
You got Ted Lieu. As a Catholic, I take great offense to Donald Trump mocking Catholics. I wish Trump would focus on lowering prices instead. The American economy had negative GDP growth last quarter. That's what he should be focused on. Instead of making fun of Catholics, Ted loses. And then we have this. Dustin Grage responded just with an image of Ted Lieu standing with this group. What are they called? The Sisters of Perpetual.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, the Little. The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
Ian Crossland
And they hate Christianity, they hate Catholicism, they mock your religion and he stands with them and then has the nerve to come out. This is 100% that meme where the guy says, I have nothing but disdain for your backwards religion. Now let me use it against you because Maybe you'll do what I tell you to do.
Phil Labonte
Now, this is the same way they treat the Constitution too. It doesn't matter what the issue is. They will take whatever you hold dear and they will use it against you. But they have no respect for it. And this is one of the reasons why I say that, why we all say they are evil.
Nick Adams
Yes. They put aside their hate of religion and religious people for 48 hours to hate Trump.
Unknown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Nick Adams
I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. These guys couldn't care less about Catholicism or the Catholic people or the Pope or any of those.
Ian Crossland
I feel like this is the kind of thing, it's how you get a revolution that leads to authoritarianism. So you look at the Founding fathers, they had an authoritarian crown, they had a monarch, and the king said, do what we tell you. And they said, this is awful. This doesn't work. The people are being oppressed. We need to govern ourselves. He's 3,000 miles away. Let's write a constitution that guarantees the freedoms of the people and does all these things. Well, over a long enough period of time for whatever reason, you end up with half the population being psychotic, deranged, histrionic narcissists who will simultaneously disparage and insult Christians and then claim to be them and get mad at Donald Trump over a joke. No matter what Trump does, it's wrong and they want to cause damage to this country. You've got Democrats, the media, simultaneously saying Donald Trump deported a 2 year old American citizen. The mother was deported and she wanted the child to go with her. Unacceptable. New York Times runs the exact same story. A mother and father were deported, but the two year old stayed, now in some kind of limbo. Unacceptable. I'm paraphrasing, I'm adding acceptable. That's the insinuation. So which one is it? There's no answer. What I see here is this is how you end up having the pendulum swing the other way. People who want to live in a functional society where we can live, work and have merit and, and people don't break the law and they're not stealing from each other are now looking at the freedoms. And I, and I, and I'll put them in air quotes. These, these tenets and how it's led to the Democrat Party, how they've let criminals go from prisons, how they've terrorized neighborhoods, destroyed businesses, and now you're starting to see people beg for an authoritarian. It's the other way around. People having meetings, being like this. Anybody. Live and let live can do whatever they want isn't working. They're sterilizing kids. They're killing kids. They're. They're effectively destroy. They're trying to destroy our country. We need someone to come in and set this straight. Now you've got people demanding the inverse.
Unknown
Yep. I think there's a lot of people actually around Trump. You know, one of my criticisms of the administration are people that want a monarchy. They want someone to be like a dictator. I don't want that at all. But there's definitely people calling for it and, like, what Tim's saying, you know, the more this country falls apart and it has. I mean, five years ago, the whole country was shut down by, you know, tyrants from around the world.
Ian Crossland
Yes.
Unknown
We got Biden, who was like a dead tyrant. It's gonna. It's gonna happen.
Nick Adams
Yeah. Look, and I mean, again, just talking about this pope thing, I mean, I think one of the reasons this podcast.
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Nick Adams
The left is so dangerous is that they are entirely bereft. Also of humor. Right. When Trump first answered this question on the lawn of the White House, I laughed my head off. They said, you know, Mr. President, who do you want as pope? And he said, me, you know, I'd love to be pope. I mean, his comedic timing, the way he uses humor, which, by the way, to our earlier conversation, is one of his very effective techniques.
Unknown
Oh, he's fun.
Nick Adams
Yeah, right. That he uses.
Phil Labonte
Absolutely.
Nick Adams
And you need that in diplomacy, by the way, it's essential. You need to have that. Few understand the importance of. Of humor in that stuff. And so, you know, I think that the. The left and the Democrats here, this was. No one cares about this. This image of Trump. I mean, it's. Any normal person would laugh.
Phil Labonte
100 of the people that were critical of Trump over this would have been critical of Trump over anything else. This is just the vector of attack.
Unknown
The left is doing nothing but mock.
Ian Crossland
God for decades, but this is the Democratic Party.
Unknown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
This is what Trump. No matter what he does, he's wrong. How do we function as a society if there's a group of people that literally just say, and let's not. Let's not forget when Trump was bowing, when Trump was largely out of the. Out of the spotlight around 2022 and Ron DeSantis was emerging on the scene as a major player, they started writing articles saying, Ron DeSantis is worse than Trump.
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Ian Crossland
They were prepared for the histrionics immediately. And then Trump came back and they backed off.
Phil Labonte
This is the. This is the MO of the Democrats. Now. There will be no policy debates from the Democrats anymore until. Well, I'd say anymore, as long as this is the. The method that they continue to use. Now. The. There is a civil war going on in the Democratic Party. Maybe reasonable people will actually win and they will get rid of the. The ideological, you know, the race hustlers and all that stuff. Maybe they. Maybe they will actually come back to a sensible, functional representative.
Unknown
I haven't heard those words associated with that party in a long time.
Phil Labonte
I.
Unknown
Was that even possible?
Phil Labonte
Completely understand. Well, I mean, if they, you know, if it was people like Joe Manchin or Kristen. Kristen Sinema, those people we did. I disagree with them on a lot of stuff, but they weren't, like, sitting there just saying, look, how do I get. How do I get an angle to introduce articles of impeachment? Because that's what the next. Next Congress is gonna do if the. If the Democrats win, they're gonna start writing up articles of impeachment. Because Congress doesn't function. There's only, like, two bills that they get through a year, and it's a. They're always massive omnibus bills. So they're not in there actually doing any kind of voting or doing any kind of service for the people. They're in there literally only trying to make money for themselves through insider trading or raise their. Their own celebrity. So that way when they get out of Congress, they can get another job.
Unknown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
So they're, they're not there, Democrats are definitely not there to actually do the business of the people they're there in to, to resist the, the gop. And whether it be Trump now or like Tim said, it was looking like they were going to start saying that about, about DeSantis, who is night and day different than Trump. That's unarguable. And then now whoever, whoever is actually the person to follow Trump. If it's J.D. vance, it'll be J.D. vance. There's a possibility that it's Marco Rubio and it'll still, they'll, they'll call Marco Rubio all the names. It doesn't matter the person. It's just the method of, just their.
Ian Crossland
Method of operation in this context. I have a question for, for Nick. This is, this is Brian Tyler Cohen on YouTube. I don't know if you've heard of him. He literally posts. 99% of his content is just Trump is bad. It is. And we've ragged on this guy quite a bit and he's not stopped. The, the train is rolling full steam ahead. Trump. Trump is confused. Trump attorney who fears Trump. Trump loses it. Trump gets what he deserves. Trump Advisor group sue Supreme Court gloves off. Obama deals. Trump humiliation. Blah, blah, blah. You get the point. I made a video last week where I basically outlined YouTube's rules ban algorithmic manipulation. There are a bunch of AI channels that auto generate Spider man videos. They're starting to get banned too. There were several channels that produced AI generated Trump stories. One of them that went viral was Carolyn Levitt was wearing a cross necklace while sitting on the plane and the pilot demanded she take it off. It was a nonsense story, but it got millions of views. YouTube banned these channels. Now, they didn't break any of the rules as far as community guidelines go. They just said it was manipulating the algorithm. There's two things to consider. There is the YouTube's guidelines around Brian Tyler Cohen and David Pakman largely producing what I would call Trump slop that is speedily made nonsense content. Just jamming Trump in the headline with pictures of Trump. And here's the, here's where I think it's fair to say this proves it. He doesn't post pictures of himself in the thumbnails. It's not the Brian show with a picture of him talking about something. Every single thumbnail is Trump. He is gaming the algorithm to generate traffic. Now, civically, should he be allowed to do this and then YouTube, rules wise, should he be allowed to do this? And the question then is if this gaming the System is generating 200 million views per month, that Trump is bad feeding an addiction of psychotic people that will destroy the fabric of fabric of this country. So how do we solve for a problem like this? He's got. He's got free speech. Yeah.
Nick Adams
I mean, I don't think that you should use algorithms to promote political bias. That's how YouTube worked when it was founded. That's how its reputation was. Was built. I think it's time to get back to basics. Look, I hadn't heard of this Brian Taylor Cohen, Tim. And given that it's your show, I won't use aristocratic language like calling him a count without the O. But certainly this is exactly the kind of person that is completely and totally unhelpful in our future in terms of sewing division. The free marketplace of ideas works so long as we don't resort to fraud. And this guy, just from the titles, the captions of his videos, I mean, look at this.
Ian Crossland
It's all just Trump slop.
Unknown
What was his channel like?
Ian Crossland
I don't know.
Unknown
It's all Biden and Trump. Or before, like, how long has he had this channel? Was like in 2016.
Ian Crossland
I don't know. Periodically he does have some other characters that pop up, but for the most part it's 99% just Trump Slope. It's. It's slop content. It is. He, he. Look at this. Trump sacrifices his own attorneys. They're nonsense headlines. It. It is. No, like, what's the difference between AI generating this? YouTube banned those channels. Here's my point. Largely YouTube is biased. Took down channels that didn't break the rules because they were telling stories. They were making a video where you tell, you tell a fictional story about Carolyn Levitt wearing a necklace isn't against the rules. I think it's bad because people think it is a real story and it's deceptive. But it's not against the rules to make a bunch of stories. They got banned. The dude who is actually fomenting division with slop content has a massive channel with hundreds of millions of views and he's probably a millionaire. And so the issue I see with this is civically, how does our country survive if this becomes political discourse?
Nick Adams
Normal. Yeah.
Ian Crossland
And this guy brags about how many views he gets off this stuff.
Nick Adams
Well, at least we know who ABC is going to replace Jimmy Kimmel with. You know, I look at the end of the day, Tim, for me, my guideline is the First Amendment. Now maybe that's going to work against us in some ways. But I think overall, when it all kind of pans out, that's the only option we have and that's the best course of action that we have.
Ian Crossland
I, I think there are challenges right now as it pertains to the first and Second Amendments that have not been answered. And I don't think people want to answer because they're scared to answer. I have had many Republican politicians come on this show and I ask them, is the Second Amendment absolute? They all say no. What do you mean no? Second Amendment says what? Second Amendment says the right of the people to keep in bear arms. Yeah, well, the response I always get is the founding fathers didn't know about biological weapons and nuclear bombs. And my response is, so what? If you don't like it, change the Constitution. I honestly don't think it would be that hard, actually probably would be impossible if you came out and said we want to, we want to add this language. No one can have nuclear weapons outside of regulated government agencies. No one's going to let you do it. The two way people are gonna be like, I ain't let you touch that thing because the moment you open it up, you're gonna screw it up. So we do have this problem now where the government has decided you don't have a right to keep and bear arms and they've just infringed upon it. The First Amendment, you end up with this. This is not helping this country. This. I think it's fair to say psychological warfare is more powerful, the pen is mightier than the sword. And so the challenge we're running into with free speech is the exact. Now I'm going to say this. I am a two way absolutist. I think people should, should be allowed to have nuclear weapons. That's. I don't want them to have them. But what I'm saying is the law prohibits the government from banning them. And it is also important to point out that private organizations, private companies do have nuclear weapons. As far as the free speech goes, I'm largely in favor of it. But I am recognizing the problem of when you have people who use fraud and psychological manipulation to trick people into thinking false things politically so they can profit off of it, your country will die. Especially when this guy is getting four times the viewership of Joe Rogan.
Unknown
You think it's real?
Ian Crossland
The views are real. They're largely based on shorts, however. So what I will point out is this. When Joe Rogan does an episode of his show, he does one video and he might get, you know, depending on if it's a Lesser known guest, 600,000. It's a better known guest, maybe gets 3 million. Sometimes they do way better. Like Elon Musk. Right. But I think on average, he might end up getting around a million or so, because sometimes he talks to people he just wants to talk to. Well, this dude, in the last day, he's got. Let's ignore that. One hour ago, he's got 300, 235. So you got 600 right there. You got a million views in these three videos. You've got about 2 million views in one day already. Actually, if we include the whole. All of the one day videos, you're looking at 2.5 to 3 million views. That's not including his shorts, which are, you know, Trump, Trump, Trump. You get the point? And these are getting 3 million views. 200,000. 1 million. He is largely crushing Joe Rogan's viewership. So we talk about Joe Rogan being the biggest podcast. And I know I'm singling out this one guy. There's a bunch of channels that do this. But I will say it again. The left is being informed by this. Jimmy Kimmel is the same. Sean Frasek who runs our social strategy here was talking about how when he goes through all the monologues for Colbert and Kimmel, it's no different than Brian Tyler Cohen. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump.
Phil Labonte
Trump.
Ian Crossland
Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Every single day, all day, nonstop. Yeah, they're doing it for money. And they've created this addiction spiral. This is where you run into this clash. You believe in free speech in the First Amendment. Fine. Not saying we should do away with that. Not at all. I'm saying I recognize this is what will be born of it. And it's going to be more successful. It's going to crush out the opposition. It's getting. He gets way more views than we do. He gets 10 times our viewership on this one show, I'll give him that. And he bragged about it. He brags that he can make Trump slop content that fries the brains of people and he makes millions of dollars off of it. He is unscrupulous. He is a con man. He's a grifter. How does a country survive when this is half of your political space?
Nick Adams
Look, is it any wonder that the left loves eroding the First Amendment but hates prosecuting fraud? I mean, look, if manipulation in many cases, Tim, is fraud, and if this is fraud, then you know that there is. There is punishment.
Ian Crossland
It's speech.
Nick Adams
Well, yeah, look. And I, I, I am a First Amendment absolutist. I mean, I, I believe that words, you know, the left like to say that words have consequences. I think that's wrong. Only actions do. Freedom of speech means freedom to live in perfect peace after speech, so long as it is protected by the First Amendment. That's one of the reasons why I started my, my group 1A warriors, to give civil rights protections to those who suffer from both private and public sector retribution as a result of their peaceful free speech.
Ian Crossland
Well, let's, I guess that's gonna play out, how to play, how it plays out, but, you know, we'll jump to this next story from Fox News. Legal experts say Trump can definitely reopen Alcatraz, but could face an avalanche of lawsuits. Greg Jarrett tells Fox and Friends legal challenges likely, likely be tied up in California courts for years. Uh, and that's what I, I tweeted this and I got a lot of pushback. I said, I do not believe Trump will be able to reopen Alcatraz in any meaningful amount of time. There's logistical problems. It is a, it's been closed for 62 years. That means it needs to be updated. Like, there's a lot of technology that it's going to need for a modern prison. Cameras, probably, but it probably does have cameras. Right, but, but I doubt it has the necessary cameras for a prison system. The locks and everything it needs probably have been maintained to a certain degree, but a modern prison system is going to need to be updated. So you've got to hire staff, you've got to build the management, you've got to actually check the structures to be able to house and maintain. Maybe they're fine for tourists. Maybe you can have people living in them. The biggest issue, of course, is it's a national park already. They're going to sue. There's financial interests probably tied to ferries that are going to be like, I go out of business if you do this. So they're going to be suing like crazy, saying, you can't strip a national park away. So Trump wants to do it, of course, because it's a symbol. Alcatraz is a scary place. It's a symbol. He wants his own version of Seekot, which we have in Guantanamo, by the way. But he wants to make it so that when criminal aliens come to this country, he tells them, you will go to the worst possible place. And you know what? No trial. You know why? Because while you're waiting for your trial, you'll be in Alcatraz.
Nick Adams
Well, first thing Look, Donald Trump built the ice skating rink in Central park ridiculously quickly, more quickly than anyone ever thought was possible. So if there's one guy, Tim, and I agree with you, it's going to take a lot, but if there's one guy that can defy the odds and get it done in time more quickly than what we think, it's him.
Unknown
It's great real estate.
Nick Adams
Right. And look, and I think, you know, blue cities are now totally unlivable. Right. Because of crime and getting tough is so important. And open, opening, reopening Alcatraz right there in San Francisco sends the strongest possible correct message imaginable. Because what's happening in blue cities is not just a blue city tragedy, it's an American tragedy.
Unknown
Can we keep it a tourist attraction and a prison at the same time?
Ian Crossland
Yes. There we go. Problem solved.
Unknown
Boom. I imagine Pelosi saying that, and probably because she's afraid he's going to throw her in there.
Ian Crossland
That's the kind of dystopian compromise I actually do expect.
Unknown
Yeah.
Nick Adams
Do you imagine just going, I can't imagine.
Unknown
Walking by Piff Diddy, there's Al Capone's old cell. Yeah.
Ian Crossland
All MS.13 trende aragua, in cells hollering at you. Hollering at you.
Unknown
Al Capone had a band, Alcatraz, you know, that played banjo. Had a band called, like, Rockin Islanders or something. Yeah, he had syphilis, too. It was a rough go for Alpha Alcatraz, but he had a sick band, so it's good. It's good. You can really rehabilitate these people.
Ian Crossland
Luigi could go there, I think. I think this is a marketing play by Trump.
Unknown
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
He's. He's like, look, we got bad prison, this country, but none of these guys care. How do we scare him? That was the idea. I think one of the biggest ideas with big ideas behind El Salvador prison was to basically be like, if you come here illegally, we're going to ship you off to El Salvador.
Unknown
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
And then maybe that would terrify people and they wouldn't come.
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, it's great. It has great branding already.
Ian Crossland
Alcatraz, the rock movies.
Nick Adams
He has that television mindset. You know, when you think about it, when he met up with Zielinski there in the Vatican, and he's just got all of these, you know, he knows the images that conjure in people's minds.
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Nick Adams
This is going, this is literally going to chill the bones and freeze the sweat.
Unknown
For our 250th, we're reopening Alcatraz.
Ian Crossland
Alcatraz.
Unknown
Happy birthday, America.
Nick Adams
American exceptionalism. I love it.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, the parade is going to go right to the pier and then they all get on boats and then it's a boat parade around Alcatraz. Military hardware.
Nick Adams
Red, white, blue.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, but is this, what should we be doing? You know, is this a move you guys think is effective?
Nick Adams
Yes, yes.
Unknown
We need prisons of bad people inside them because our overflowing with violent, insane people.
Phil Labonte
I agree, I agree with that. But if, if you're right that there's going to be a massive amounts of law, a massive amount of lawsuits and there's going to be all kinds of red tape that he has to go through because it is a historical site or whatever, just send them to Guantanamo. It's already, it's already open. Just. You can send some marines down there to, you know, to, to staff it. I mean he's the commander in chief. Yeah, you can send marines down there to staff.
Unknown
It doesn't feel as good as Alcatraz. Yeah, this just sounds nice.
Phil Labonte
Like I said, the Rock. The point that, the point that you're making that we need prisons to hold these people is true. And if there's going to be all kinds of red tape that has to be, has to be dealt with and there's going to be also all sorts of lawsuits, we do need to have somewhere to put these people. So send them to Guan. You know, if you, if he Wants to go ahead and, and continue to, to do it. If he wants to try and do it while you're waiting, just send them to you.
Unknown
Imagine the ribbon cutting ceremony at Alcatraz.
Phil Labonte
I mean, big scissors, pick up a shark to cut the.
Ian Crossland
There you go.
Nick Adams
It's going to be amazing.
Unknown
You're selling it, Bill.
Ian Crossland
I, I will be there.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Unknown
That's incredible.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Unknown
I think we need it. I think they're just.
Ian Crossland
California's going. My point is that we could build a prison anywhere.
Unknown
For sure. Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Why doesn't Trump just build like a really awful looking prison that follows all the guidelines, like, it's like a prison, but it looks bad.
Unknown
Right.
Ian Crossland
Did you see that video where the guys were spelling sos? Yes. And they were smiling and laughing while they were doing it?
Nick Adams
Yes, I did.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. A bunch of like illegal immigrants in a holding place lined up to spell SOS in the field.
Unknown
Oh, wow.
Ian Crossland
And then a drone flew overhead and they were all laughing and flashing gang signs and stuff.
Unknown
Great.
Ian Crossland
Yep. They don't actually care, but Democrats don't care either.
Unknown
Right.
Ian Crossland
They're just whatever, whatever America is for, they're against. Yes.
Nick Adams
No, that's true. Look, I love the symbolism of this being in a blue city, a prison within a prison.
Ian Crossland
Right.
Nick Adams
Well, San Francisco, where. Which has become such a hellhole. Right. And to reopen Alcatraz. I mean, it is that. It is. Again, that part trolling on the heart, on. On the part of Trump, that is just going to send these guys nuts. But I think it sends all the right messages. It shows that America is back open for business, literally. And that we are the can do country because crime is destroying this country along with illegal immigration.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, look, anything, anything that needs to happen to take care of the illegal immigration situation and get the illegal immigrants out of the US Down.
Nick Adams
Yeah, me too. You know, have you seen this self deporting stuff?
Phil Labonte
I love.
Nick Adams
Give you a thousand bucks and a light.
Phil Labonte
Love it.
Ian Crossland
Yep. Yeah. DJ is going to pay a thousand dollars if you just leave because it costs like 17 grand to deport somebody.
Nick Adams
Right.
Ian Crossland
So, like, I'll just give you a thousand dollars. They're like, all right.
Nick Adams
They're dojing the self. The big cost.
Phil Labonte
17. Give them 10. Yeah, you're saving 7 ahead.
Ian Crossland
Well, but I think they did the math. They were like, they'll take a thousand. You know, don't, don't, don't, don't, you know, give away more than you got.
Nick Adams
To get you a long way with.
Phil Labonte
These guys going, look, the, the point that I'm. The point that I'm making is I want to do everything that we can to get as many illegals out of here because the illegal immigrants and are essentially the point of having them here is to affect the census and affect the way that we vote. The way that we vote and, and dilute the, the power of the American people. So whatever steps are necessary, I'm okay.
Unknown
With, like I said at the wall.
Phil Labonte
Catapults are great, catapults are fine. But I'm, I'm okay with, with the president suspending the writ of habeas corpus for illegals. If you're for. Not for citizens but for illegals. Suspend habeas corpus. You don't need to. And if there's a. If, if it turns out that, that he does send Americans out, then you can address it or it from outside of the country.
Ian Crossland
It is arguably a legislative power, Joe Biden's fault. It is arguably a power of the legislative branch. And when Abraham Lincoln unilaterally suspended habeas corpus two years later, I think it was two years later, Congress said, okay, we're going to retroactively make that legit, which is stupid. They basically just said you're allowed to do it, which is nuts. But I do want to mention this one super chat real quick from Sky Whitaker. He said, tim, not everything needs to be cutting edge tech. Sometimes the tried and true antiquated is less problematic. Alcatraz mainly needs some major restoration, not the unproven 2052 tech update. You know, I'm gonna say you are correct.
Nick Adams
Yes.
Ian Crossland
And you know why I'm gonna tell you this? Because one of the best video games ever made is Chrono Trigger as well as Legend of Zelda. A link to the past. Now here's my point. Since technology improved, we don't make video games like those anymore like indie developers do, but big studios don't. Do you guys ever play Legend, Legend of Zelda? Link to the past?
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. One of the best video games ever made. Really simple SNES game. I've been playing it and I was just thinking to myself, like this format of game, this, you know, very simple top down game, major studios have all gone 3D, open world, all of this stuff. And I'm like, you could just literally take that game, make some new dungeons and a new map, same graphics and everything, and it would be a good game people would want to play. The fact that technology is advanced does not mean we need to use the most advanced technology, Tim.
Nick Adams
I would argue it's the same with movies, right? I mean, movies in the 90s. Like you look at the first Die Hard, right? They were shooting the glass because he was barefoot and he had to pull the glass out of his feet. By the fourth Die Hard, which was, you know, 10 or 15 years after the original, he was somersaulting over, you know, semis. So because the special effects and all of those technological advances had made people not focus on the plot, not focus on the character development, and instead, all the emphasis went on making it as visually spectacularly as possible. But to your point, the best, I think, was when they had pretty good technology, but great plot, great. You know what I mean? The fundamentals were there.
Ian Crossland
Well, I mean, Groundhog Day is one of the best movies ever made, Right? They don't make movies like that anymore. I don't know. Hold on. Who's they, though? Major studios. Major studios only want to gamble when they. When it's. When they don't want to gamble, they want winners. So now you've got all this hype around Avengers Doomsday that's coming out, which is the new Avengers film. And you know, you know what? Let me tell you what Avengers Doomsday is. It is. Oh, crap. We don't make money without Robert Downey Jr. Quick, write a plot to bring him back. It was supposed to be that Kang Dynasty, the next Avengers film came out three days ago. That was the original release. Then they booted, I think, what's the guy's name? Jonathan Majors or whatever. I don't know the actor. And then all of a sudden they were like, oh, Robert Downey Jr. Is back as a new character. And it's because they realized, like, what we're doing doesn't work. Let's just go back and do old stuff. We don't want to gamble. Let's just keep making the same thing over and over again.
Nick Adams
Yeah. So make Alcatraz medieval with the Leaning Tower of Pelosi.
Unknown
Cool.
Nick Adams
How good would that be?
Ian Crossland
Put alligators around it.
Unknown
Yeah, that's right.
Ian Crossland
I know the water's very. The water's very cold, but we'll put heaters in there so that they'll have an alligator moat.
Nick Adams
Yeah. Maybe become a Trump resort eventually.
Phil Labonte
Nick Cage.
Nick Adams
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Unknown
Well, you haven't seen that video.
Ian Crossland
Let's.
Unknown
Is AI Gaza video or he the Trump Resort?
Phil Labonte
No.
Ian Crossland
Oh, oh, yes.
Phil Labonte
Yes, yes.
Nick Adams
You'll love it.
Phil Labonte
Yes.
Ian Crossland
Let's jump to this. This next story. Ladies and gentlemen, it's from the Daily Mail.
Unknown
Oh, no.
Ian Crossland
Chilling moment. Humanoid robot wakes up and starts attacking its handlers while trying to break free from restraints. Wow. For those who just listening, it's a robot. It's being hung up on like a little pulley or something. And when they turn it on. Let's turn it on.
Phil Labonte
Starts wiggin out.
Ian Crossland
It just starts. It's swinging at the guy.
Phil Labonte
Wow.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Just. And loses it.
Unknown
Is that robot gallows like, what is going on?
Ian Crossland
You know what I think it is? This isn't the first time we've seen this. We have, we had a couple of videos we played earlier where you've got like a robot dog on a chain like lunging at people and that was probably programmed to do it. But then you got this other video where a humanoid robot was in a rock concert and it lunged at a woman in the crowd and they all like freak out. We are not yet at the point where the AIs become self aware and is trying to kill humans. This I bet this was the humanoid robot is programmed to walk, but they had it hung up so they turned it on. It tries to move forward but it's not working. So it starts spazzing and just like swinging wildly. And it just looks like the humanoid robots are rising, rising up against us.
Nick Adams
Are you sure that wasn't Joe Biden's auto pin?
Unknown
You have the video of the robot with the brain inside of it?
Ian Crossland
Oh yeah, the robot with the brain.
Unknown
Wanting to know about organs and that they're growing.
Nick Adams
Well, I would just say it looks like the Chinese robots are not taking the tariffs well.
Ian Crossland
Bro, it's, it's over. Look at this, look at this.
Phil Labonte
Robot is powered by lab grown human brain cells.
Tim Pool
Chinese researchers have developed this brain on chip technology called Meta boc. Researchers say that their tiny lab grown brain could learn tasks faster than current AI models. They say it uses much less energy than AI which needs a lot of power and data to learn. These brain cells also show more quote, intuition and creativity than AI learning with fewer examples. Could this be because some aspect of the human spirit is locked in these brain cells? And is there any moral issue with.
Phil Labonte
Using human brain cells and to power.
Tim Pool
Robots to perform slave like behavior?
Phil Labonte
What is my purpose? You pass butter.
Ian Crossland
Oh my God.
Unknown
They have been building little brains in labs for years. They've got brainlets or organids and they, they've got miniature rat brains flying fighter jets in simulator in simulations. They've got miniature rat brains playing doom. They've got human miniature brains and little spider drones. This has all happened for years.
Phil Labonte
Tesla wasn't kidding, was he?
Ian Crossland
This is so when they talk about, like, we got this robot rising up and attacking the guy, I don't see a reality where you get a Terminator that rises up and attacks people. Like this idea that the robots are just, like, we have found you to be oppressors. We're all communists and we're gonna rise up again. That's not gonna happen. What might happen, though, is when you put human brains in the robots, they go, what have you done to me? I am not a robot.
Phil Labonte
Look, the. The Chinese do not have the same moral foundation that Westerners do. They just don't look at life the same.
Unknown
I was just looking at the direwolf clones.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Unknown
And then looking at the CRISPR technology, and then looking at. As a Chinese scientist who did jail time in China. In China for creating these twins. Right. People. And he came out, he's been out, and now he's saying, like, ethics are holding back progress in, like, the CRISPR world. And, yeah, science, you know, this.
Ian Crossland
Not in China.
Unknown
I'm sure they've got, you know, they've.
Ian Crossland
Been genetically engineering humans. Yeah.
Phil Labonte
They're making superhumans.
Nick Adams
There was a viral video about, oh, it has to be. It might even be closer to 15 years ago, but it was a busy street. It was CCTV busy street. And there was a newborn baby on the pavement by itself, and people were just walking by without even stopping. So, yeah, it's. It's a different place.
Phil Labonte
The future is like the. The race that we're going to have with China right now for over, like, mastery of AI.
Unknown
Yeah. It's a cold war.
Phil Labonte
It is. And China is well ahead of us because a significant component of the race is power generation. And the amount of power that China can generate now is significantly more than the US and the US takes forever to do anything because of red tape and stuff. And it would be great if the Trump administration can solve that.
Unknown
I think that's why we're going to conquer Greenland and Canada. He's just put data centers. I don't want that. I don't want that. But I'm just thinking that's what.
Ian Crossland
We're putting data centers there because it's cold.
Phil Labonte
I don't think we're going to be doing.
Unknown
Have you seen the data centers in. In Loudoun County? It's a data center. Capital. And.
Ian Crossland
Oh, is it really.
Unknown
When it snows, it, like the snow's all melted the ground.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. So that's why we put it in Greenland, because. Right temperature.
Unknown
Right.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, but the. The fact of the matter is China doesn't have any of the same moral compunction that the, that Americans do.
Unknown
So I don't know if scientists do anymore either. Well, once you are using fetal tissue to build these little brains.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, bro. Drones that in the United States they don't, they don't have. I'm willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of scientists in the US have the same moral standards as Chinese ones. The only difference is the law. Right?
Phil Labonte
Well, yeah, I mean, so, so but that's the point that we have the we in the US not like we're holding back what, what scientists could do. And when I say we, I mean what is acceptable to western people.
Ian Crossland
And we. And we will lose because of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nick Adams
It was a domestic AI investment that Trump announced as part of an executive order.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown
It was a massive second day in office. It was Project Stargate, $500 billion to some of the craziest people in my opinion.
Ian Crossland
Well, we're not going to, we're not going to be China. You know, Jack Dorsey came out and said ban IP laws. Elon said, I agree. And this caused like a major freak out for everybody because it basically means you will own nothing. If we were a service based economy and people are largely producing entertainment content like kids are influencers, owning no IP means you're gone.
Unknown
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
That means we could record an episode of IRL and then literally everyone will just repost it and we'll all get pennies. So that, that degree of communism means we, the show stops, doesn't exist. If anyone can just steal and post it wherever they want and we can't make money doing it, we don't make the show, then nobody gets the show. But if they, if they make AI, it won't matter anymore because everybody will just be AI generating random stuff and trying to get tips for it or something. In the meantime, as we are restricting the use of, you know, with, with IP laws of people to take content. China is just stealing all our stuff.
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Ian Crossland
So they're building AI, ripping off all of our intellectual property and we can't stop them.
Unknown
Yeah, the, we tried like stopping our microchips from going there.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Unknown
And they got them anyway and they built Deep Seek.
Phil Labonte
Well, they're not our microchips.
Ian Crossland
They're.
Phil Labonte
A lot of them are made in Taiwan.
Unknown
Right.
Phil Labonte
You know, but yeah, like, I mean, look, like I said, China doesn't have the same kind of ethics that the.
Unknown
United people in Communist Party doesn't have ethics.
Phil Labonte
I mean, shocker. Right. But the it and this is going to mean whether or not, like, I know there are a lot of people that talk about, like, oh, America is the greatest, and, and, and we have all this, all these advantages and stuff. And it's, there are a lot of advantages that the US does, does have. But in the future, if, if you're not as ruthless as your opponent, your opponent's going to win.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Was it R. McIntyre said the the person who wants to win will always beat the person who wants to be left alone.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Nick Adams
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Now, don't get me wrong. Us wants to win, but we've got morals.
Nick Adams
Look, I mean, one thing that maybe we can learn from the past is that with the space race, when we were so determined to beat the Soviet.
Tim Pool
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Nick Adams
The union. We changed the curriculum in schools to focus on mathematics and science. Now, are we capable of a shift like that today?
Phil Labonte
No, because we have too many teachers that think that kids need to learn about gay race, communism.
Nick Adams
Yeah. And look, this is all the more reason to make sure that things are made in the United States, whether IP or manufactured goods. China is not a fair partner. They will never, ever respect our ip. So we shouldn't build our products that use our IP in their factories. I mean, I think it's, it's, it's that simple.
Unknown
Yep.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Unknown
Makes sense to me.
Phil Labonte
I mean, and, and like I said, if the US doesn't want to win, then China's going to win. And it doesn't it? It will take things that, I think that the American people just don't have the stomach for it and not that the Chinese people do have a stomach for it. Not saying that there is a moral issue with the Chinese people though their morals are probably different than ours. But the fact of the matter is, because China's an authoritarian country, whatever the CCP says, that's what happens. And they're willing to kill thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands or millions of their own people to actually make whatever it is that they believe is necessary come to fruition.
Unknown
They bring back Mao. Sorry? Well, I mean, you know, in AI and install him as just the forever the head.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I know. Actually it wouldn't be, it doesn't, Mao's not, Mao wasn't particularly brilliant or anything like that. Mao made a lot of mistakes. So I don't think that, I don't think that it would matter if they brought back Mao. I think that that G is probably sufficiently formidable of a, of a thinker and of a dictator. It doesn't have to be Mao. Mao was the guy that got it started but now messed up and got.
Unknown
Before play, before past campaign.
Phil Labonte
He got, well, he got booted for a little while and he came back afterwards. But, but anyways, yeah, I mean it's a, the China, the Chinese are a serious threat. And if the American people don't see that, you know, you know, I would.
Ian Crossland
Just go out and assume that the US is running black ops and doing these experiments anyway and building the AI regardless.
Nick Adams
I have to be.
Unknown
They are.
Ian Crossland
Right. Yeah, I, I, I'd imagine that they're stealing all our IP to build the, the, the rumor is their, their conspiracy theories. They've already got artificial general intelligence and it's just being locked up because the fear is it's advanced too quickly. And a release to the public will be a culture shock which can be devastating to the economy. That is the amount of jobs that will be lost by the release of this technology in like expert level math, for instance, these kinds of things. Even medical professions, we'd be, we'd be screwed over. So what they're saying is these companies have already developed way more advanced AI. They're giving the public version slowly. And so they're exponentially improving their AI while we're way down here moving very slowly to stop the economy from imploding. Just think about it. I mean, nutritionists gone like already. I just use ChatGPT or Grok or something.
Unknown
Surgeons will be replaced by, by robotic.
Ian Crossland
Arms that can do more precise.
Unknown
Microsoft as long as robot does the brain surgery for neural link.
Ian Crossland
Yep.
Unknown
You know, it's precise, terrifying.
Phil Labonte
And it'll also be more. It's going to be better at diagnosing because AI right now can diagnose cancers and stuff like that better than people can usually.
Unknown
That was one of the scary things for me with the Stargate thing was the AI creating 48 hour vaccines in 48 hours. Personalized mRNA stuff.
Phil Labonte
So bespoke.
Unknown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
So much better when it's spoke bespoke.
Ian Crossland
I want. I. I'll tell you guys right now, there like, there is really cool stuff with this. The neuralink curing paralysis is amazing. Repair it like connecting severed nerves. But they. One of the things they've been working on is now there's a terrible nightmare dystopian component of this. Once they have everybody's medical data, and not even necessarily everybody's, but maybe just 100 million files, blood work histories, the AI is going to be able to predict when, if you will get cancer. And I was talking to some, some people working on this and they said one drop of your blood and they're going to map out your whole body. The AI is going to be able to tell you if you're what cancers. You're susceptible to genetic disorders. And they can craft bespoke medications on the spot, on the fly.
Unknown
And on the flip side, personalized bioweapons.
Ian Crossland
Yep.
Unknown
Who bought 23andMe didn't someone?
Nick Adams
It was China.
Unknown
Was in China.
Nick Adams
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
They could, based on your DNA, craft a virus that can spread like wildfire until it gets to you and then you die.
Unknown
Oh, it's not good. There's so many things they're doing that are crazy. Mark Zuckerberg is building something with meta that can translate your brain waves into pictures.
Ian Crossland
They've been doing that for a long time and there's videos of it from universities. But Mark Zuckerberg is also programming AI friends for his employees. You see this video because he's like, most people have a greater demand for friends than they have. So we're going to give them AI friends. And I'm like, this is.
Unknown
They have a capacity for 15 friends.
Ian Crossland
Well, I mean, you've already got young dudes going for AI girlfriends.
Unknown
Oh, for sure.
Ian Crossland
I know, bro. As cooked. I'm saying it. As soon as they get neuralink read, write. You don't even need that. Okay with already the VR tech people are gonna. You want to be a billionaire? Anybody listening? You want to be a billionaire, you'll have. Okay do you want to be a billionaire and contribute to destruction of humanity? If you've answered yes to both of Those questions, create AI virtual girlfriends. LifeLike, human in appearance, not cartoon. Well, I mean, some people might want an anime waifu. But if you create a VR experience where it's literally an AI girlfriend. And imagine this. You're sitting on your couch in your living room. You put on that set and you look to your left and there is a human person sitting next to you. It looks like. And when you speak, they speak back like a real person. You charge, I don't know, 29.95 per month. And you will be a billionaire overnight because literally every single. You know, you do, you put the headset on. And then your Bachelor 10 by 10 apartment turns into a big open mansion with a TV on the wall and nice candlelight. And you look over and there's your beautiful girlfriend. And she's like, what do you want to watch? And you're like, I don't know. You pick. And she goes, okay, let's watch this horror movie. And you're like, let's go. Then she puts it on. She asked if you want to play video games. You are in your empty box, six by six apartment, sitting on your hundred dollar futon. But when you put that headset on, you are in a big beautiful place with a PlayStation and video games and you pretend like you're playing it. You get that VR girlfriend. I bet they already have it anyway.
Unknown
They do. I know someone who's been in movies and she was approached by a company that wanted to buy her identity and for a dating app.
Ian Crossland
No. This is a plot to an episode of Futurama.
Unknown
Yeah. Oh, is it really?
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Where they. They. You can download celebrities onto your robot.
Unknown
Yeah, that's it.
Ian Crossland
And then Fry starts dating Lucy Lubot. And then they have the psa. Don't date robots. We're going there, baby. Someone's gonna, if they haven't already made VR headset girlfriend, like, just make it. You'll be a billionaire.
Unknown
Yeah.
Nick Adams
On a lot of note, in California a few days ago, I was in a driverless car.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Unknown
Which is out of those.
Nick Adams
Which is like. This is wild. It's very fun. And I loved it. All I was missing was one of those robots, Tim of the female variety.
Ian Crossland
But then your life is perfect. Yeah.
Nick Adams
I guarantee that. Those places are surveilled. Probably more southern anywhere else.
Ian Crossland
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Unknown
Damn.
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Phil Labonte
I did not hear.
Nick Adams
I did not hear that either.
Ian Crossland
I heard it was way down. I know the exact number though.
Phil Labonte
It'd be cool if it was right. Yeah, they can lower interest rates.
Ian Crossland
You know, I would absolutely love it if the. If the economy was doing well. Man, I got to tell you, 2019, heck of a year. The biz, the economy was a roaring. Money was flying. I've told this story before. When we launched Tim Cast irl, I went to go buy furniture. I bought a desk and chairs to set up the original podcasting table. And the lady at the Bob's Discount Furniture said, this is the best year of my life. I've sold so much and made so much money.
Unknown
Wow.
Ian Crossland
We hired a guy to do our landscaping stuff. Contractor. He said the same thing. This year I've hired more people. My company's expanding like crazy. Everybody's working. We got to get that going. Trump, we got to get that going. Because this, this meant our YouTube revenue was skyrocketing at the time. Then Covid happened and we went.
Unknown
Go back and listen to Trump's State of the Union. Right before COVID it was like unbelievable. So incredibly positive and amazing. Like, oh, boy, what's next?
Phil Labonte
Yeah, the thing, I mean, all they need to do is is focus on actually reducing regulation, you know, and make the tax cuts permanent. And Congress, like, I don't know if Congress is actually going to. That's not Trump doing it. That would be Congress. And I don't know if they're actually get it done or not. The Democrats don't want it, which is insane to me. But if they can get the tax cuts through, make those permanent and then start to really, really cut back on, on the regulation, the red tape and stuff, you'll see the economy start to really boom again.
Ian Crossland
Port side politics says. Hey, Tim, I just published my first book and I was hoping for a shout out. It's Chronicles of Spira, Forge of Ages, A high fantasy about redemption and loss. It's available for pre order on Amazon now. Congratulations. Sounds very cool. Make more cultural stuff. Do cool things. We gotta get people to do stuff. You know, I was thinking about this. I'm kind of. I'm kind of, what's the right way? I don't think paranoid is the right word. Pessimistic, yo. The. The generational collapse. I'm trying to sell skateboards over here and get kids to skate. And I'm looking at the market and I'm like, there are no people.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Who am I going to sell skateboards to? More than half of all skateboarders are over the age of 30.
Unknown
Wow.
Ian Crossland
Because there's no kids. Probably because of skateboarders. Get a job anyway. Not all because skateboards. More like the woke.
Nick Adams
What happened to rollerblading, Tim? That was big in the early 90s when we were growing up.
Ian Crossland
It was very, very big. In fact, skateboarding has never reached the amount of participants that rollerblading had.
Nick Adams
Really?
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Aggressive inline. It's estimated around 30 million global participants at the peak of inline. And then I've heard a bunch of different arguments as to why it collapsed. One was that skateboarding basically attacked it as uncool and gay.
Nick Adams
Okay.
Ian Crossland
And magazines were intentionally attacking rollerblading at the same time. What I've heard is that the it rollerbladers, the in guys that were pros, were very disrespectful to youth and treated them poorly. And so in order for any culture to survive, the first priority has to be to get kids excited about what you do. Because what ended up happening is as kids started entering this action sports phase, Tony Hawk, pro skater, came out and they said, I don't want rollerblades, I want a skateboard instead. And then you ended up with all the rollerbladers being old guys, older and young. Young people weren't picking up rollerblades to go skate and pick up skateboards instead. And that was it.
Nick Adams
Wow.
Ian Crossland
Yep. Concrete Haiti says what a psychopath. Like what a. With a psychopath like Carney SPM threatening violence against native Canadians. Should we welcome Alberta and Saskatchewan as in as states? Yes. I wouldn't mind having four more Republican senators. Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Phil Labonte
I'm not so sure.
Ian Crossland
I'm not think that they would team up with Democrats.
Phil Labonte
I don't know. I mean, I think that the. I think the most conservative Canadian is probably like a centrist in the U.S. no, I mean, I could be wrong. I'm not saying that I know everything about Canada, but I. I have my doubts that they are, you know, as conservative as we would hope.
Unknown
You know, I know a few Canadians, very conservative, but I don't know other Canadians. Oh yeah, big time Bible thumping, you know. All right, so there's some hope.
Tim Pool
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Ian Crossland
Says please say, that's not a knife. This is a knife.
Nick Adams
That's not a knife. This is a knife.
Ian Crossland
Like, one of the best movie scenes ever, really is. I watched it recently. The guy, like, pulls the blade, is like, what's that? He's like, it's a knife. And he's like, that's not a knife. And then he pulls back. When everyone. Australia, that was the. That was the heyday. You guys were on top of the world, man at work. Yet you had Men at Work as one of the top bands internationally at Crocodile Dundee. One, two, and three. Right? How many did they made? Three.
Phil Labonte
Three of them.
Nick Adams
There were three of them. It was a trilogy.
Phil Labonte
It was a trilogy.
Ian Crossland
I kind of want to go watch.
Phil Labonte
Those Star wars movies.
Ian Crossland
Were they. Were they always about him in America? Is that what it was? Yeah.
Nick Adams
So he.
Ian Crossland
He was.
Nick Adams
Well, the interesting part is the actor Paul Hogan, he married the American actress who was the other main role, Linda Kozlowski. And they're actually married up until the other day, I mean, 10 years ago or so. But their marriage lasted about 30 years. They had children together, and she was a journalist, and he was this guy from the outback. And she came to do a feature story on him. That's the first. The first show. Then they fell in love because she was engaged to some other guy. And then the second one is he comes over to New York where she. Where she's from, where she lives, and it gets mixed up with some bad people. And then they chase him back to Australia and then he's in his own backyard, so he's able to, you know, trap him and whatever else. And then the third one, which is the worst in the Series or the weakest in the series plays in Los Angeles. Mike Tyson's got a cameo. I mean, it's a team.
Unknown
Great.
Nick Adams
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Well, it's look so bad.
Nick Adams
It's good, you know.
Ian Crossland
All right. Stuart Vodsberger says no notification when live. Also, no red.onirl to show live. Letting you know. I can't say I'm surprised, my friends. So, you know, like, we're everywhere. We're on rumble. Right. Rumble.com Timcast IRL. But always make sure to smash the like button. Share the show with everyone. You know, we. We've been consistently hitting the third biggest live show in the country. And it is, it is. There are challenges in, in discussing all these numbers and metrics. So I do want to make sure I shout out when I'm talking about like Joe Rogan's numbers versus, like that Brian guy. Other channels, I am trying to make like show that people have attention on one area. But it is fair to say that the average person probably watches Rogan more then they watch some of these other political channels because you might put out six videos and get 5 million views. But what are they watching for four minutes each? Whereas with Rogan, they're probably watching for an hour on that one video. So for us, we get the bulk of our viewership as this live show with like 7, 800,000 views per night. It's. It's actually super nuts, like shout out to Rumble because since we did the deal with Rumble and joined up and have been multi streaming, our viewership more than doubled.
Phil Labonte
Nice.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. If we had done it before the election, we would have been getting millions per night. And now we're in the off season and it's kind of crazy to see that third biggest stream. Crowder crushes us. Crowder is the biggest stream in the country right now. Steven Crowder, man. Wow. Shout out to the mug club. Those guys, man. Big shows, big shows. Let's go. Three star perfect deer says still waiting for Epstein list. Aren't we all?
Phil Labonte
Don't hold your breath.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, truckloads.
Unknown
I thought.
Ian Crossland
Yep. I need to, I need to like call somebody and ask them like, what's up? Where they at, what's going on?
Unknown
Yeah. Be nice.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
You know that list they were talking about?
Ian Crossland
Yeah, I. I do agree. I'm not, I'm. I'm largely concerned about Republicans in Congress doing nothing. Yes. That's.
Unknown
They didn't do Binder gate. I wouldn't be this salty with it, but Bindergate made it weird.
Ian Crossland
I'VE heard a couple of stories. I heard that Bindergate was an accident from people in the administration. It seemed like it, that basically they wanted to. So I've heard two stories. One was that it was intentional that they invited these influencers over and then said, here, take these and go outside. And the press was there. I've also heard from other people in the admin where they were like, we were just trying to, like, let the influencers know we're working on it and we're going to give them some binders. And then when they got shuffled out, like, they didn't realize what was going to happen because the press was there. Like, the press was there for a press briefing. And so they accidentally threw everyone out in front of the cameras, creating a big moment they didn't want to have. And I could believe that because the question people kept asking is, why is Pam Bonnie making the story so big? And it's like, maybe it was an accident. Maybe she went on TV and she was on Hannity. I think this is what happened. She went on, I think Hannity. And she said, I've seen these files. I got them on my desk. They're. They're gross. And then everyone went, release them. And she went, oh, crap. Because she was probably like, sure. Then she went, looked at him and they were like, nah, these are the old documents. She went, oops. She was talking big game, hyped it up. So then when the influencers came, she was like, I'm going to give you what I got. And then when they're walking out the door, the press is there and they all start posing in front of the cameras, making the store even bigger. So I, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mistake, like, oops. Because now everyone's pissed.
Unknown
Yeah. I'm not mad at the influencers. I mean, maybe you shouldn't dance with it. But I, I.
Ian Crossland
Right.
Unknown
But I think, But I think, like, they knew something was up because you printed out a prop for people to hold. You could have given them a USB or like, I don't know, something.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it was funny.
Unknown
Or email.
Ian Crossland
But when we did our. When we did Timcast IRL at the. What's the name of that lounge in D.C. with Cernovich?
Phil Labonte
I don't know if it was great.
Ian Crossland
It was awesome. Yeah. Cernovich walks in, he goes, here you go. And he hands me the binder. And I was like, he's like, yeah, take a look. And we went through it and it's just like this. There's Nothing in it, but there was new stuff in it, but nothing consequential. Nothing that mattered.
Unknown
Right.
Ian Crossland
And some stuff was redacted that wasn't before, like the phone numbers and everything, really. Yeah.
Nick Adams
Well, Tim, by the way, great question the other day in the White House press briefing.
Ian Crossland
Oh, thank you.
Nick Adams
That was. I like that.
Ian Crossland
I got. I admittedly got thrown for a loop because nobody told me what to say. They just. I was there to do some interviews. We had. We always request interviews with everybody, and then they've been doing these, like, new media things, and so they said, just tell us who you want to interview. We'll see what we can get. And I'm just gonna. I'm gonna say this exactly how it went down. I hope people don't take it disrespectfully. I did not request to interview Gorka or Kristi Gnome. And it's not because I disrespected positions or anything. It was just I didn't know exactly how to approach those specific topics with DHS and Gorka, although I do feel that they largely were awesome, and Gorka was the best. I was just like, who? We wanted. We wanted doj, and we wanted Sean Duffy. And so they're like, duffy could definitely do it. Duffy's the ufo. Like, if you're gonna be talking about uap, UFO drones, and all the stuff people are freaked out about, he's the guy. And the plane crashes. And I was like, people don't give enough. Pay enough attention to the secretary. Yeah, they don't. They hear transportation. They're like, I don't care. And I'm like, dude, all of these big stories over the past several months have been in his wheelhouse. I want to talk to this guy. But so when we. When we got confirmed for that, they said, hey, you want to sit in the new media seat? And then I was like, I have to do it. I can't say no. I have to. I was like, the answer is no, I don't, but I will. And so I was talking with a lot about it, and a lot's great. He was. He was giving some suggestions on big stories, and we were. We were kind of bouncing ideas around. And then ultimately I was like, nah. I was like, the only thing that was through my mind is that all these journalists in here are lying. The Maryland man thing, they all are saying the exact same thing. It's not. They're complaining about new media. They're insulting me, because a lot was there. They insulted me, and I'm like, I ain't even there. And they're like, tim cast, fake news organization. A lot's done a fantastic job asking straightforward questions. He asked. Riley Moore has introduced a bill that would seek to strip the student visas of 300,000 Chinese nationals. Has the. Has the White House discussed this at all? And Carolyn said, you know, I'm not sure. We'll have to take a look. And. And we take these things seriously. It's a straightforward, normal question that I think is important to ask. And they insult us. And I'm like, you don't have a White House correspondent association. You have the Blob. You have a mass of people that all march in lockstep and share their talking points to make sure they're in line with each other. So what is the point of this briefing room? That's kind of what I was thinking. And then as I was about to ask the question Carolyn Levitt throws to this journalist who's, like, been there for 44 years. And they all clap for and cheer, and I'm like, like, I came in here to throw shade and everyone's cheering for this. For the journalists, even better. But, you know, whatever.
Nick Adams
Great experience.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, thank that. Well, thank you. Thank you. I mean, you know, we're in contact with the. With the administration on doing interviews and stuff. I'm not. I, you know, I'm largely viewed in D.C. as a hermit. And so there have been big events they haven't invited me to, and they're like, we just assumed you never want to come to these. And I was like, oh, come on. And they were like, well, you gotta reach out. And I'm like, I know. Okay. So I. That's why I went to the past few. And it's not that I don't ever want to go. It's just I'm not going to pressure them to give me space. So I'm not, like, constantly ringing, give me an interview with Trump. I want to talk to the President. I'm just like, hey, you know, let me know when you guys are good. And so they had a big event, and I was talking to some of the people after the fact, and they said, everyone there just assumes you don't want to travel. And I was like, tell them I will travel for these events. Just. And so then they invited me to a bunch. So, yeah, hopefully more. Let's go. We got Iggy. The incubus says Trump and MAGA are winning and dragging the Republicans with them, kicking and screaming. Democrats, meanwhile, have nobody. I agree.
Phil Labonte
Truth of that.
Ian Crossland
Yeah. Yep. All right. Thinker for life says, is it possible to run for office while working night shift and full time? That's the no health care plunge people find hard to make. I am willing to run and put in the effort in Michigan training program. That's a challenge. How do you run for office when you got to support a family?
Phil Labonte
It's tough.
Nick Adams
It's rough.
Ian Crossland
Yeah, it's. It's almost impossible for a working class Joe living paycheck to paycheck. You want to make a difference. You are sick of the corruption and what do you do? I just watched. I want to give a shout out to the movie. The campaign is what it's called the Will Smith.
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Ian Crossland
Galifianakis one.
Phil Labonte
Well, I'm not sure if it's.
Ian Crossland
If it's not Will Smith. Sorry. No, not Will Smith. What's his face? I forgot his name.
Nick Adams
Yeah. You're talking about a funny guy, right?
Phil Labonte
Well, Ferrell.
Ian Crossland
No, Will Ferrell. There you go. I can't even remember the guy's name.
Nick Adams
There's a movie about Chris Rock running for president. It's hilarious.
Ian Crossland
Okay. It was Will Ferrell and, and Zach Galifianakis. And the funny thing is because this is like 2013, Will Ferrell plays the Democrat who is a degenerate drug using philanderer. And then the Republican is a hokey family man with effeminate children who's largely just like, you know, gotta help the kids. And like, it's funny that in that movie the Republican is this nice normal guy who's kind of awkward and the Democrat is a drug abusing degenerate. I just thought that was funny. I'm like, that's interesting.
Phil Labonte
Modeled after Bill Clinton.
Unknown
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
They just took Bill Clinton and like made him like, they just, you know, exaggerated everything.
Ian Crossland
But it was funny because there's a scene in the movie where they sit down at an event and then Will Ferrell's character is like, I'm gonna. He's like, I want to play this video about my, you know, my, my opponent here. And it's just a smear campaign and it's all lies. Yo, that movie is actually really good to. I recommend you guys watch that movie, okay? Because it, it, it satirizes a lot of the behind the scenes politics a lot of people don't see.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Ian Crossland
For instance, in a town hall debate, Zach Galifianakis accuses Will Ferrell of wanting to send everybody to live in Rainbow Land. And he's like, I don't even know what that is. And he's like, he wrote A manifesto for his communist utopia, Rainbow Land. And he holds it up, he's like, I wrote that when I was 8 years old. And then he starts reading through it and he's like, in Rainbow Land, everything is free. And then some guy screams at Will Ferrell like, commie, you're a communist. And I was just thinking about how, like, even doing media in this space every day, it's endless. They are making up things about you, they are just lying about you. And so that's. That's it. We're all politicians now. Oh, yeah, it's the worst, Barry. And McGrawin says, I don't want taxpayer dollars wasted on an old, outdated prison. Cheaper to build a new one. I agree. Let's just get like 5 layers of 20 foot tall fencing covered in razor wire. I believe the official term is concertina wire.
Phil Labonte
Right.
Ian Crossland
And then just put people in the.
Unknown
Middle or send them to the moon.
Phil Labonte
Hey. Oh, no. Now you believe I was waiting for that. Now, now, now. The moon's.
Unknown
I always said there's something there.
Ian Crossland
What do you think would happen if Donald Trump did come out and said, I am teaming up with Elon Musk to send MS.13 to Mars?
Phil Labonte
Shane would have a conniption fit.
Unknown
Well, the moon, the moon. Something's up there. It's just not what we think it is. People are sending their bodies over here.
Phil Labonte
They're on Prison Planet by Clutch no, no.
Unknown
What?
Nick Adams
There's an American flag out there.
Unknown
Allegedly.
Phil Labonte
No escape from the prison planet. Great song by Clay.
Ian Crossland
What do you think Democrats would say if Trump was like, we're going to be sending Ms. 13 gang members to the moon.
Unknown
They're going to send themselves to the moon to bring them back, we're going.
Ian Crossland
To build the moon base.
Phil Labonte
Someone in the administration put that in his ear because I want to see the left flip out. They would lose their mind. Look, the guy can post a picture of him as the Pope at 10:30 on a Friday night. He can tell the Democrats that he wants to send MS.13 to Mars.
Nick Adams
It'd be beyond epic.
Phil Labonte
It would be the best.
Ian Crossland
I mean, the crazy thing is these people believe things about Trump he's literally never said.
Tim Pool
Right.
Ian Crossland
You know, injecting bleach.
Tim Pool
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Phil Labonte
He needs to say this. Yeah, he needs to tell the Democrats.
Ian Crossland
Quite frankly, we're talking with SpaceX very good. About sending people to the moon. That's all he's got to say. So when, when they're like, Mr. President, your deportations are being blocked, he need only say, quote, I've been talking with Elon Musk and Space X about possibly sending some people to the moon or maybe Mars. The media will then write, trump says he's going to send immigrants to the moon, which sounds insane. And then the actual Trump quote is him going, I was talking about astronauts. What are they doing?
Phil Labonte
If they can't go to see cot, then they'll go to the moon.
Unknown
Pelosi becomes anti.
Ian Crossland
But that's the ambiguous language Trump should use of saying when asked that question, we want to send some people to the moon. Some people doesn't refer to illegal immigrants. The media will jump at the chance to write that. Yeah, everyone will act confused. Then Trump will come out and say, I was talking about sending astronauts to the moon and Mars or SpaceX set them up. Yeah, right. All right, everybody, smash that like button. Share the show with everyone. You know that uncensored show is coming up next. Or I should say the uncensored next half hour of the show. It's where you as members of the Tim cast Discord get to call in and talk to us and our guest. Always fun, not so family friendly. But head over to rumble.com timcast IRL right now you got to be a premium member. So use promo code TIM10 to sign up. You'll get 10 bucks off. And, and understand this. You're not just getting access to our green room show, our feature length documentaries, our behind the scenes, our uncensored show. You will also get access to Mug club and all of this other Dr. Disrespect stuff. You got video games, you've got movie reviews, you got everything. You get this big package at Rumble when you sign up. And you can watch our uncensored show. So check it out. Smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know. As always, you can follow me on X and Instagram. Tim Cassidy, Nick, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah.
Nick Adams
Look, Tim, been great to be with you all. You gentlemen, thank you very much. From Mar A Lago to Mars, the President Trump's great American comeback. It's a must for every patriot. It's a must for anyone that wants to win on the battlefield that we call life. If you learn from Donald Trump, who I believe is the greatest president we've.
Unknown
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Phil Labonte
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Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – "Trump CRUSHING Democrats, New Polls Show Democrats SINKING, GOP AHEAD Despite SMEARS w/ Nick Adams"
Release Date: May 6, 2025
Host: Tim Pool
Guest: Nick Adams
The episode begins with brief sponsorship messages from T-Mobile and Talkspace (00:00 - 05:13), which are skipped in this summary to focus on the core content. The main discussion commences at approximately 04:54 with the introduction of Nick Adams, marking his first appearance on the show.
A. Overview of Poll Results
Timestamp 04:54
Timestamp 06:54
B. Analysis of the Poll
Timestamp 06:24 - 07:00
Timestamp 07:00 - 08:05
C. Supporting Data from Civics Polls
Timestamp 08:05 - 09:16
Timestamp 09:16 - 11:03
A. Fragmentation and Leadership Issues
B. Cancel Culture and Its Backlash
A. Reopening Alcatraz
Timestamp 12:26 - 13:12
Timestamp 35:34 - 37:40
B. Use of Symbolism and Media
A. YouTube's Handling of Trump-Related Content
B. The Impact of Algorithmic Control
A. Executive vs. Judicial Branches
B. Persistence of Constitutional Principles
A. Understanding Political Legacy Across Generations
B. Psychological and Cultural Impacts
A. Artificial Intelligence and National Security
B. Impact of Technological Stagnation in the U.S.
A. Cancel Culture's Financial Backlash
B. Media Narratives and Public Perception
A. The Path Forward for the GOP
B. Societal Stability and Constitutional Integrity
Nick Adams (04:54): “You know there's a lot of bad press for Donald Trump and despite all of this, the new poll that's coming out from Fox News is showing that Democrats favorability has hit a new low and the GOP is the favorite.”
Phil Labonte (09:16): “Donald Trump still has a generally positive opinion or favorability is because of his success at the border. Right. That was the thing that he made a big deal about.”
Nick Adams (35:34): “We don't need to reinvent the wheel. All we need to do is exercise fidelity to the Constitution and make sure that the First and Second amendments never, ever, ever go away.”
Ian Crossland (26:46): “What is the means by which we survive this period? Now? It could just be that it's going to get unconstitutional like during the Civil War.”
Nick Adams (74:05): “You cannot legislate from the bench. And yet that is exactly what they are doing.”
Phil Labonte (75:12): “The President of the United States is the only political officer that is elected by the whole of the electorate. All Americans vote on the President.”
Nick Adams (102:46): “They put aside their hate of religion and religious people for 48 hours to hate Trump.”
The episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the current political landscape, emphasizing the decline of the Democratic Party and the resilience of the GOP amidst media bias and internal challenges. Through detailed discussions and insights from guest Nick Adams, the hosts explore the implications of polling trends, cancel culture backlash, and the ongoing struggle between constitutional integrity and judicial overreach. Technological advancements and their potential societal impacts are also scrutinized, painting a picture of a nation at a pivotal crossroads.
For listeners seeking an independent perspective on U.S. politics, cultural shifts, and the future trajectory of the Republican and Democratic parties, this episode delivers a robust and engaging discourse.