Trump Declares Antifa FOREIGN Terrorists, It Has Begun w/ DeVory Darkins & Gerard Michaels

Summary

Timcast IRL — Trump Declares Antifa FOREIGN Terrorists, It Has Begun w/ DeVory Darkins & Gerard Michaels

Date: November 15, 2025
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests: DeVory Darkins, Gerard Michaels, Ian Crossland, Phil Labonte

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the Trump administration's landmark decision to designate several European Antifa cells as foreign terrorist organizations—a move with sweeping implications for law enforcement and political polarization in the US. The hosts and guests analyze the significance of the designation, discuss the broader political landscape (including Gen Z’s alienation, economic malaise, and right-wing infighting), and touch on the ongoing culture war and the generational shift in American priorities.

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Main Topics & Detailed Breakdown

1. Trump’s Antifa Terror Group Designation

[06:50 – 13:38]

• News recap: The Trump administration officially labels four violent European Antifa-affiliated groups as foreign terrorist organizations—Antifa Aust International Revolutionary Front, Armed Proletariat, Justice, and Revolutionary Class Self Defense—from Germany, Italy, and Greece.
• Impact: The designation lets the US bar these radicals from the financial system and prosecute anyone supporting them, including Americans with organizational links.
• Potential Cascades:
  • Enables broader FBI surveillance via FISA warrants.
  • Makes American Antifa participants vulnerable if found communicating or coordinating with these groups.

Quote:

• “The thugs from Germany, Italy and Greece have carried out dozens of attacks in Europe over recent years including assaults, bombings of government buildings and shootings... The play is so big... American antifa organize with these people.” — Tim Pool [07:21]

• Panel Reactions:

  • Phil Labonte: “This is exactly what I voted for. These people are terrorists. Their intent is terrorism... They need to be locked up as long as we possibly can.” [08:42]
  • Gerard Michaels: Argues RICO (like used in the mafia prosecution) should be applied to take out Antifa’s organizers and funding, not just low-level street thugs. Suggests parallels between Antifa, Black Lives Matter, and other progressive activist groups. [11:22]
  • DeVory Darkins: Applauds tackling root causes — “We need to treat the root causes. I think this move is signaling that instead of treating symptoms.” [15:21]

2. The “Professional Protester Class” and Organization Structure

[13:06 – 16:40]

• The panel delineates between casual protest attendees (often apolitical or present for the "event") and professional organizers/agitators financed by larger networks.
• Discusses the role of unemployment and lack of opportunity for youth, which both draws them into these groups and makes them vulnerable to radicalization.
• Notable insight: "Turn off the money spigot, this professional protester class goes away. This is their job." — Gerard Michaels [13:06]

3. Gen Z Disillusionment and Political Apathy

[16:40 – 40:18]

• Debate over the declining relevance of right-leaning politics for young people, as the GOP appears out of touch with economic anxieties (student debt, jobs, immigration).
• Economic crisis and media consumption: Tim argues that right-wing influencers focus on drama (Israel, intra-right drama) rather than policies that matter to Gen Z, which erodes engagement.
• “Gen Z is gonna say: I have no money... I can't get an apartment, I can't find a job, I can't buy a car... And what do [pundits] do? True crime drama, nonsense. Trump is doing interviews where he's like, you don't matter, we give up. So it's just very, very demoralizing.” — Tim Pool [18:23]

4. The Culture War & The Right’s Media/Culture Deficit

[49:58 – 56:01]

• The decline of uplifting or pro-American cultural media—contrasted with Hollywood and Netflix output that’s seen as doom-laden or pushing “woke” or communist narratives.
• Tim and guests lament lack of right-wing investment in cultural projects (“Where are the movies, music, comedy? The left invests in this, the right doesn't reinvest in anything” — Gerard Michaels [50:00]).
• Calls for more positive messaging, community-building, and a return to tradition and purpose.

5. Economic Anxiety, Tariffs, and the Manufacturing Debate

[63:14 – 75:18]

• Tim argues for trade protectionism, tariffs, and a strategic push to rebuild American manufacturing—a stance justified as necessary for economic/national security and to counter China.
• Tariff dividend (“trade protectionism” vs “wealth redistribution”) is debated.
• “All it does is shut down American factories... The tariffs are attempting to stop the liberal economic plot to force people around the world into the petrodollar by giving away American manufacturing and resources.” — Tim Pool [67:54]

6. Demographics: Birthrates, Family, and Generational Shifts

[77:36 – 97:55]

• The US faces a demographic collapse—birthrates are down, Gen Z and Millennials are not having kids due to sociocultural pressures, economic malaise, and changing priorities.
• The conversation pivots to the importance of family, the consequences of an aging lonely population, and the need for purpose.
• “What is our purpose? To protect, to provide, to build. And a woman's purpose is to nurture, support...” — DeVory Darkins [92:52]

7. Candid Critique of Conservative Influencers & Infighting

[101:03 – 119:37]

• Tim and guests criticize the right for wasting time and attention on social media drama (Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro) at the expense of substantive issues.
• “You don't get at it [the drama]. Reality is Democrats realized this a long time ago. Regular people want to chase the shiny object... We're desperately trying to educate those people and capture their attention.” — Tim Pool [116:10]
• Discussion of free speech, standards for leadership, and calls for more accountability within the conservative movement.

8. Audience Interaction and Closing Thoughts

[121:23 – End]

• Listeners’ questions on political solutions, dating advice in the right-wing community, property ownership for non-citizens, and leadership requirements.
• Advice segment on career, purpose, and fostering positive communities online.

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Noteworthy Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Antifa’s FTO Status:
  “State Department is committed to identifying and dismantling these terror networks that conspire to ruthlessly suppress the will of the people and violently undermine the very foundations of the United States and Western civilization.” — Tim Pool [07:02]
• On Right-Wing Drift:
  “Trump has abandoned [Gen Z]. Trump saying there’s no talent in this country—he really damaged the coalition.” — Tim Pool [17:44]
• On Economic Priorities:
  “If you go to them and ask them what's the most important thing to you right now? Gen Z is gonna say, I have no money ...” — Tim Pool [18:23]
• On Cultural Solutions:
  “We need to be inspiring people ... The communists are winning because they are investing in their message.” — Gerard Michaels [51:52]
• On Family vs. Atomization:
  “All the things that you dreamed of will carry on forever ... [otherwise] you die alone, Chelsea Handler style.” — Tim Pool [87:16]

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Important Timestamps

• [06:50] – News of Antifa’s foreign terror designation.
• [08:42] – Panel debates terror designation and its implications.
• [13:06] – Funding and organization of protest movements.
• [16:40] – Discussion on youth unemployment, Gen Z motivation, lost opportunities on the right.
• [18:23] – Gen Z’s priorities vs. right-wing media distractions.
• [49:58] – Culture war, right’s lack of investment in media.
• [63:14] – Tariffs/protectionism, American manufacturing.
• [77:36] – Birth rate collapse, family, and generational issues.
• [97:55] – Parenting, meaning, and critique of childless/atomized modern life.
• [101:03] – Conservative infighting, critique of drama in right-wing media.
• [121:23] – Listener questions: solutions, property law, building community.

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Closing Reflections

The episode is a frank, hard-edged analysis of the mounting crises facing the American right—external (left-wing extremism, foreign adversaries) and internal (lost cultural ground, infighting, failure to connect with young Americans). While the mood often veers toward pessimism, frequent calls are made for rebuilding culture, strengthening family and community ties, and refocusing on the real economic and existential problems plaguing the country.

Final Thought:
"It’s too profitable to be a doomer. We have problems, sure. The horrors persist, but so do we ... They have done everything they possibly can do to destroy us and demoralize us ... still we are here. The fabric of society may be stretched, but…this country persists and survives." — Gerard Michaels [57:50]

Transcript

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And this is where Trump is really ramping up the war against far left terror. So it's gonna be interesting to see how exactly that plays out. We're not entirely sure, but a big move nonetheless. And of course this news actually broke last night and it didn't get a lot of attention because everybody's too busy talking about Megyn Kelly, Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens. Because now the big story in the morning, which is trending, I kid you not, I turn on the news, I open up Twitter X. Sorry Elon. And what do I see? Trending. Babylon Bee made a joke about Megyn Kelly throwing away her pager, implying that Israel might kill her or she thinks they would. And I'm like, oh, here we go. This is the story. And then sure enough, only a little bit after that, I see buried deep on the pages of the Internet, Mr. Andy Ngo saying several anti fissiles have been deemed foreign terrorist organization. So I'm like, wow, this is what people actually care about. It's the big trending story. 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[A]

Here's the big news from the New York Post. Antifa groups designated foreign terror organizations for first time this is massive. The Trump administration formally designated four violent left wing groups based in Europe as foreign terrorist organizations as part of a broad crackdown on extremism. State Department announced the intended designation on Thursday saying the antifa groups Antifa Aust International Revolutionary Front, Armed Proletariat, justice and Revolutionary Class Self Defense use force against those they identify as opponents of their Marxist and anarchist projects. The thugs from Germany, Italy and Greece have carried out dozens of attacks in Europe over recent years including assaults, bombings of government buildings and shootings. Holy smokes. State Department is committed to identifying and dismantling these terror networks that conspired to ruthlessly suppress the will of the people and violently undermine the very foundations of the United States and Western civilization. The designation will also bar the radicals from accessing the US financial system and prosecute those that support them. Antifa US is based in Germany. They go on to describe these groups, but it's Germany, it's Italy, it's Greece. And the reason why this play is so big, it's not about these specific groups in Europe. It's that American antifa organize with these people. Yeah, and that means they're going to start going into the finances and communications, get FISA warrants for these groups and it's going to expose individuals in the United States, link them to these foreign terrorist groups and, and it's going to then be a cascade against many of these far left extremists. I think that's the play. I don't know why they will be doing it so slowly. Maybe they have to announce this because if they want to get these, these warrants, FISA warrants or otherwise, it has to have this public declaration from the State Department. I wonder if they could do it quietly. But what say all of you?

[C]

Good, bad, otherwise, you know, honestly, I'm, I'm. I'm for the. I'm kind of. If I had to pick one, I would say I'm for.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

Man, I just don't know the legal precedent of just saying. Now, this group is terrorism.

[B]

This is exactly what I voted for. These people are terrorists. Their intent is terrorism. If you, Tim, if you want, I put a video that Andy NGO posted in, in the slack. And this is, this is emblematic of what they do, right? And this is Europe in particular. This one in particular is Europe. And they're, they're just come up behind this guy with hammers and smash him in the head and start beating the evolution.

[A]

Can we. I don't know if we can show this.

[B]

It's. It's brutal. Yeah, maybe not. Maybe not.

[A]

But look, I'll play it until he strikes. So this is. They're called Hammer Band and they hammer attack people. Here's the video.

[C]

Oh, 20 years in prison.

[B]

Yeah, and. And there's. And you don't see it in this, but there's like. There's probably like 10 of them, maybe 15 of them there, maybe 10 of them that come after him. They beat him to the ground and then they mace him when they leave.

[C]

Well, that's conspiracy then. If there's multiple. I mean, 40 years.

[B]

But the point is these people are terr. And you can't treat them like with kid gloves. Now granted, in the US you don't get that kind of stuff, largely because we're in our population, but in Europe they're not. And the way that these antifa terrorists are acting in Europe, like Tim said, they work with people in the U.S. they communicate with people in the U.S. there are people like Tim has mentioned before that they call tourists that go from one protest to another protest. These people need to be treated like the terrorists they are. They need to be locked up for as long as we possibly can. Because the point of antifa unquestionably is to degrade.

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Social fabric of the US they want to see the United States fall apart. They're literal anarchist communists.

[E]

So I actually think this muddies the waters. Rudy Giuliani told us when I was doing Mafia States of America with valuetainment back in the day, we interviewed him and he made the argument four years ago that this was a cut and dry RICO case, that there would this was organized, this was financed. And if you thr one antifa thug like you're saying in prison for disorderly conduct or taking the pallets of bricks that magically appeared everywhere and throwing it through a window, okay, they're out in a month and they're probably getting paid to go to another protest. But if you take that disorderly conduct and you use it as precedent to run it up the line for who paid for them to be there, who got their plane ticket, who bought their food and you get all the way up to the top of the organizer. That's how they broke the mob. I grew up in New York and New Jersey and Rudy Giuliani used RICO to break the mob and there's no reason that they shouldn't have been doing this for years here with Antifa, with Black Lives Matter, with these organ I'd go after justice Democrats. I think Psychot Chakrabadi is the most dangerous man in the world. So that being said, we're going to.

[A]

Find all those connections. That's what's going to be really interesting. It's not just about antifa. What happens when a foreign terrorist organization they find communications between DSA members because this is the overlap. These people who are likely involved in Democratic socialists are going out as antifa later and they're organizing internationally. I'd be willing to bet it's gonna turn out the people they end up arresting or investigating the United States are gonna be Democrats, DSA Democrats, young people.

[C]

The aspect of it that I'm a little concerned with is the randos that are like, yeah, I hate fascism. I'll go march one day.

[A]

Don't go out and they go. Those people are not going to have communications with Antifa Europe. It's gonna be the organizers that they're going after.

[E]

To your point, I was just at the no Kings protest in, you know, doing our little comed 99%. It's a social event for these folks. They're just showing up there, having a good time. Yay for our side. But then there's very clear organizers that are directing people that are handing things out that are well funded. And that's what this comes down to. You have to. The only way you're going to defeat this and be a counter revolutionary is you gotta get rid of their funding, their financing. As soon as the money spigot turns off, this professional protester class goes away. This is their job.

[B]

And Ian, to your point, right, the people that oftentimes engage in the low level street violence are people that don't have significant connections or whatever. They're the people that. They're the people that are there because they're there for the violence or they're there for the party or they're there for whatever. And the reason they engage in these activities is because they don't have anything to lose. The organizers will go and they will incite stuff, right? The people that actually have connections with the upper echelons or whatever, however you want to frame it. But the people that are actually on the street throwing bricks, the people that are actually on the street lighting fires, they're people that don't have whole lot going on in their life. That's part of why they actually will do this stuff is they don't have a lot to lose. If you've got kids and a family or a job or some kind of, some kind of public record, something recognizable by the public, you don't want to do this kind of stuff. You don't want to go and throw bricks through windows because you have something to lose.

[E]

The no Kings. It was shocking how much of like a social event this was. Yeah, like this is their friends. They're there to. We're part. Hey, good to see you again. This was their tailgate.

[B]

People don't remember this a lot, but that was a lot of the, the riots that were going on during Black Lives Matter. The people that were getting together at night were different people than were at the protest during the day. Because during the day you have the people that are protesting peacefully. At night you have basically the people that have little to lose. You have Your exactly like the people that, people that went after Rittenhouse in Kenosha. They were. People like Rosenbaum didn't have some kind of deep ideological bent. He was there looking to get into fights with people because he didn't have crap going on in his life.

[A]

You guys say that youth unemployment employment right now is around 10%.

[B]

That's insane.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I just want to say that we need to treat the root causes. And I think this move is signaling that instead of treating symptoms, which is going after people who have no money, no status, and they're just there as pawns. Yeah, I think that that's, that's a.

[A]

Great move on that.

[B]

I think it's a great point. You pick those people up if they're. You pick those people up if you catch them doing something wrong. But I, I think your point about the rico, rico using this RICO case is exactly right.

[E]

Deborah and I were talking about this point before. Part of it is messaging too, Right. Like you just said 10% youth unemployment.

[A]

So 9.4.

[E]

I think so. So what, what is the message? To conserve. Like what did, what are you telling a 24 year old in New York?

[A]

That you should conserve Indian laborers and Chinese students?

[E]

So there you go. Right. And, and I, look, if it were up to me, we wouldn't be paying for any of this stuff. But it's a very hard sell to have people who grew up watching for 20 years of their life, trillions of dollars be spent on killing people in the Middle east to then say, oh, look, we don't have any money for health care. That's a, that's a tough sell. It's a tough sell when you're seeing all of this money go overseas, Ukraine, Israel, wherever, and say, yeah, hey, sorry your kid has cancer, but you know, them be the brakes. That's a, that's, that's a tough message. That's a tough thing. When you, hey, sorry, you know, you went to college and that job doesn't exist anymore and you'll never own a house, but, you know, don't vote for change. Tough message. Yeah, right.

[D]

So, you know, Tim, you've been saying something recently which is, we need to understand the enemy. So this whole antifa thing needs to get snuffed out immediately and needs to be met with brute force, because if not. And his presidency will end, what, three years from now, what's going to happen then?

[E]

We got the midterms of the year, man.

[D]

Like if they don't address it now, what will happen there?

[A]

Well, there's going to be more assassinations. I think the big challenge we have is the right has just shattered since Charlie Kirk's killing. It's just completely shattered.

[C]

It's like a problem and opportunity because there's not a lot of leadership opportunity.

[A]

For the left or an opportunity for.

[C]

Someone on the right to step up.

[E]

Even with Charlie Kirk. Do you ever think the right had will to see something like this through to the end?

[A]

What do you mean?

[E]

Like, okay, let's, let's say, let's say that, that this, okay, they're going to, they're going to move to now take this to indictments. They're going to move to now take this to rico. Are they going to have the will to actually see it through to the end?

[A]

No, I think what's happening right now, the, the pollster, the only pollsters that matter, you've got Rasmussen and you've got Rich Barris are talking about how Gen Z is basically, they're done. Yeah, Trump, Trump has abandoned them. Trump, Trump's basically saying I surrender with this H1B stuff. So they're going to look at this and they're going to be like, okay, there's nothing for us on the right now. Trump's not, he's off message. And again, this is all following the death of Charlie Kirk. Then the, the right is off balance and the presumption is they're not going to do anything. You've got a guy, a guy threw a sandwich at a Fed, which at the bare minimum is a conviction on a slap on the wrist of some sort, not free to go. So even if they do charge these people and bring them before courts, liberals are going to be like, no, they're good and they're gonna, they're gonna acquit him. Even if it does happen. These mortgage fraud cases, is that the best they can do? Really? You know, okay, whatever. I guess when Trump came out and said there's no talent in this country, he, he, he, he, he really, really damaged the coalition. But I gotta be honest. We, you know, as we're mentioning earlier, this news on Antifa broke yesterday, but the whole, all of the fee was dominated by talk of Candace, Ben Shapiro, you know, Megyn Kelly. And Israel is more important because these, these people who are just absolutely retarded online have, you know, you know, I'll put it like this. I think the Israel conversation is the perfect opportunity to dismantle and destroy the right coalition because it's an issue that regular Americans don't know or care about. You talk to your Average person on the street, they're going to be like, yeah, I guess I like Israel, whatever. Some are going to be like, no, I don't, I don't care for them or what they do. But if you go to them and ask them what's the most important thing to you right now? Gen Z is gonna say, I have no money. They're gonna say, I'm buying food on credit card debt, I can't get an apartment, I can't find a job, I can't buy a car. And what do you find when you go online to the top personnels and pundits? True crime drama, nonsense. And Trump is doing interviews where he's like, you don't matter, we give up. So it's just very, very demoralizing. I think the expectation is going to be all of these, these are all grains of sand or they're all snowflakes. In the avalanche, we said maybe when it gets colder out there's going to be bigger moves against Antifa. Okay, this is a start. There's going to be bigger moves on immigration. Maybe we have, we'll see. But come on, 500,000 deportations out of 11 million on the low end, you're never going to get it done. So it all seems like we're in an avalanche. And Trump's not even promising to climb back up. He's saying, let's just write it down.

[E]

Well, he's been America first. You got, he got elected for America first. And whether it's true or not, the optics are he has not been an American first president for the first year here. He's been focused on international things that to your point, If I'm a 22 year old and I can't pay my bills, what the hell do I care about Ukraine, Israel, Palestine? I don't care. I could help you, Trump, and I know you listen to this and maybe with your massive audience you can help get this out. But he should, and I know we said this earlier, he should go all in on student loan forgiveness this and say it's not going to come out of any taxpayers. It is a consumer protection issue. And just like lemon laws, when a corporation, when Chevy sells you a bad car, you can bring it back and get your money back. They should be able to take their degrees, return the degree and have the colleges be liable for that. Go after the endowments that are the war chest for this far left wing extremism. Harvard University's $55 billion endowment is the war chest. It's the epicenter for this entire woke mind virus that has infected the West. And you could do three things. One, you could show the youth that you're fighting for them. You could break the shackles of indentured servitude that we've had on three generations now. And three, you could force the Democrats to have to defend student loans. Right?

[A]

Or we can talk about Megyn Kelly with this story from theindependent.co.uk. right wingers accused Babylon Bee of inciting murder against Megyn Kelly with deleted pager bomb joke quote this is a fun way for the Babylon Bee to call for murder. One conservative podcaster reacted to the since deleted post. I just want to take a moment to say we were just discussing how antifa has been designated a foreign terrorist organization, certain antifa cells. It's important. We're talking about what we can do to inspire young people who are currently feeling dejected. And I just want to add, we will cover this story, but I want to make sure everyone realizes I think you're all retarded and I'll explain why. So basically the story is this. The Babylon Bee posted this Megyn Kelly gets rid of old pager just to be safe. She then Megan Kelly then quoted the Babylon B saying, wtf? Seth Dillon and Mehdi Hassan chimes in by saying, when a far right pundit on CNN with me joked about my beeper going off and then got banned by cnn, Megyn Kelly had him on her show and they both laughed about it. Yet here is Megyn Kelly getting super offended when someone else makes the beeper threat against her or the hypocrisy. I'm gonna say it again. You're all retards, okay? It's not a threat, it's a joke. And I get it. I think the joke is funny because it implies Israel kills people. And that wasn't Babylon B's intention. I think Babylon B deleted it because it's more offensive to Israel to imply they would murder an American pundit for criticizing them. But my point is it's all just tribal hypocrisy, garbled nonsense. Median's got another tweet. He says, a reminder of how funny Megyn Kelly thought the beeper comment was when it was someone else, a brown Muslim, me on the end of it, not her. Here's the clip. Mehdi Hassan leaned so far into playing the victim. He reminded me of those World cup soccer players and their drama, pretending that they're hurt so that they can get a red card or whatever on somebody else. It was over the top. He deserves an Academy Award for the. Did you just say you want me dead? You just said you want me to be killed. What is the. It's obviously the beeper thing is a reference to what Israel did to Hamas supporters and members of Hamas, where they blew up their beepers and in some.

[E]

Cases, blew up the men holding the beepers.

[A]

And he. You were saying if you support the Palestinians, you later said you thought he said Hamas. Maybe he has a beeper that I get. That's the comment. But he. How do we get from that to I hope you die?

[C]

I notice he didn't say, are you saying I'm a terrorist? His implication is, therefore, I am a terrorist.

[A]

Well, they're not laughing in the clip, so, you know, crummy post for many. But I just want to stress Megyn Kelly, I think, is. I'm, I don't know, disappointed. I feel like she's taken a very professional media stance on a lot of things recently. I'll just come out and say it. When Ben Shapiro brought up Candace Owens and called her evil, Megyn Kelly's. Well, I don't know. I mean, that's. I wouldn't call it evil. I don't. I don't watch that stuff was like the wishy washy, wishy washiest of responses. And then Megyn Kelly put out another video saying, I watched what Candace said, and she did not accuse Erica Kirk of being involved in the killing of Charlie. It just reeks to me of faux outrage. Not. There's no moral baseline here as to what you're really mad about. Maybe she's saying, wtf Seth Dillon? Because Seth Dillon's making fun of her. But why are you mad if someone's making fun of you? The Babylon Bees made fun of Candace, Tucker, Nick, and tons of other people. Why should she get special treatment? And I would just say in response to the Ben Shapiro thing, if Ben said something about Candace and you didn't agree or you didn't know, like, it was to me, my response I'd be like, what did he say? Or like, what did Candace say? That's a bold accusation.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Instead, Megan's like, well, I don't know about that. And it's just, yeah, we get it. Megan, you want to. You're.

[C]

You.

[A]

You want to be in Candace's camp. She's a really big audience, and you hope that she props you up and you're on her side because you're scared of her audience. Whatever. The. The most demoralizing thing I've seen in the past couple of weeks is the obsession over this kind of nonsense. And this is what we're getting from some of the biggest podcasts in the space. Ben Shapiro, Megyn Kelly and Candace Owens having a drama battle while I'm sitting here being like, why are eggs, you know, expensive? Why is milk expensive?

[B]

The fact that we've got real substantial problems in the US the, the inflation that hit a couple years ago, like that hasn't worked its way through the economy. Wages have not caught up. People are still suffering. Like you said, there's the crisis of young people getting out of college with massive amounts of student debt. There's income. There's the idea that income ine is a massive problem in the US You've got young people that are becoming more and more extreme in their political views, whether it be to the right or to the left. You have, Mamdani was just elected in New York. You have the. I forget what her name. I think Karen.

[D]

I forget Katie Wilson.

[B]

Katie Wilson, the socialist that was elected in Seattle as mayor. These problems are real, tangible problems that are real things that are gonna have a massive effect on the United States in the coming, you know, five to 10 years. This, this bickering and arguing about garbage, you know, who's, who's, who knew what about Charlie Kirk, when legitimately all the actual evidence is that the official story is probably the most likely. There's a lot of people that are, that are looking to just, you know, farm as many clicks and as much attention as they can off the, off of the death of Charlie Kirk. And it's disgusting. This is all just garbage.

[A]

I don't care about Candace's show in the sense of like, what our subject subject matter is. What's demoralizing is that people would rather watch vague conspiracy over Charlie Kirk being murdered by his friends as opposed to Trump talking about visas and the border and the economy. You know, I'm having conversations behind the scenes with, with media personalities who are talking about CPMs being really low right now. Why are ad rates low when they're supposed to be high? What's happening and the reason why this is important is that I've mentioned this quite a bit when we're facing economic uncertainty. YouTube CPNs, CPMs, the money you get on YouTube is derived from granular sources, whereas television is going to sell an ad slot to a big company like Pepsi. You know, Fox might do that, or they're going to do regional ads somewhat if they're doing digital with YouTube CPMs. If I make A video. And I get a thousand dollars from that video. That's 10 bucks of that came from a diner in, you know, the outskirts of Omaha. And they bought 25, 000 ads so that people in their area watching YouTube will get an ad for their diner. So if you live in the outskirts of Omaha and you watch Tim Cast irl, an ad will pop up and it'll be like old Johnny Bill's Diner just outside of Omaha. They only buy 25 in ads. I get less than half of that. Or actually, I think, you know, YouTube takes, you know, like 16 bucks or something. When your ad rates are going down in November, it's signaling a major economic problem is about to occur. Because this, because this is, it's not me doing one direct. So I can go to one company and say, give me 100 grand, I'll do an ad read for you, or four ad reads or whatever. They'll say, yes. And then I go, hey, look at that. We sold a big ad read. But when YouTube CPMs go down and viewership is low in November, something in the economy is happening. So there's two things we're seeing that has people in the media space concerned, and it's that viewership for many prominent conservative personalities and political person as in general, I'm just talking to the conservative ones are low for November. They're supposed to be way higher now as people are staying indoors from the cold. They're not for us, we've been relatively static. So that would indicate that we're seeing, you're seeing growth and collapse at the same time. So growth in spite of the downturn. When CPMs go down relative to views and views are down, it's indicating one, people are disinterested in the political landscape right now, which is largely in the Gen Z space, which is apocalyptic for Trump in the midterms because Gen Z is about to turn 30. As we're entering the midterms are going to be 28, 29 years old. So this has become a principal demographic for victory for Republicans. And the CPM's going down indicate small businesses are struggling to make money and they're cutting their marketing budgets. We saw this during COVID and then it's, yeah, but did you hear that, like there was a Bush and the Bush, like, it might be a guy. And I'm like, what does the Bush have to do with anything? Well, Charlie got shot in the back and I'm like, okay, but the Bush, there's a Bush in front of him and there was a guy in there and it looks like a guy in camo. And I'm like, so the bullet from the front of Charlie wrapped around his neck. What are you talking about?

[E]

You think it's, you think it's desperation engagement, harvesting. That's what's going on?

[A]

Well, I certainly think that's. That there's a hand. Handful of things. I think if you are right now a prince, a political commentator. Yeah. Better. You better start Segwaying out of politics because Trump is losing this incoming generation. And so I certainly think some of that. I'm not blaming Candace for doing, you know, women, women, female drama podcasts. That's what she's always done. From Blake Lively to Bridget Macron to now the murder mystery of Charlie Kirk. Her whole thing has always been female oriented drama content. And that's why she got the Stanley mug right there. That's like women waited in line for eight hours at Starbucks to get one of those mugs. It's very much a women's show. What we're seeing from it is people care more about that than they do about what's happening politically. Because many people on the younger side, who we need, it's like this. Older people are dying, younger people are aging into the political space. We need them to care. They don't care. So. So general interest in politics across the board is way lower than it should be for this time of year. And the polling data shows us it's because Trump is not getting the job done for young people.

[C]

I think a lot of people get their information from, from X. I just read this. As of the end of October, your, your X feed algorithm is now being set by Grok. You can go to GROK and direct message it and tell it to change your feedback. Always prioritize photography. This is saying Grok algorithm. You personalize your feed. You can use direct conversational prompts. With Grok, simply message Grok with specific requests. You can say for 48 hours, change my algorithm.

[A]

There's two feeds for you and following I never use for you for you is algorithmically generated posts they send to you and following is reverse chronological posts from the people you follow.

[C]

Maybe you can use for your. And set it to be like, stop showing me drama content. Show me more technical now.

[A]

Because that shows you, shows you out of date things. It's. It's been, it's been really bad. I avoid it all.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

It might be the, it's probably the future of algorithms is the you tell the AI what kind of stuff you want to see and It'll show you more of that. But then the default, which you don't.

[A]

Know what I'm getting from you.

[C]

What's that?

[A]

You don't know what it's hiding from you. Yeah, always.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Good. No, no, no.

[E]

It's also a clarion call to the. To the content creators. Like, you're saying, like, don't give your enemies a club to beat you with, man. Like, you know, like, it's desperation and it stinks. How we won and how we kind of f. This counter revolution was through memes. We won through love. We won through comedy, man. And you're looking at something like that. That's an easy one. Sort of being like, what the heck? Seth Dillon's like, I wish Mehdi Hasan cared more about Hasan piker's dog collar than his beeper. You know, like it's.

[B]

Or maybe the fact that Hassan is literally in China glazing China right now.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

So lost our sense of humor.

[A]

When we do the culture war show, we. The live events we've done have gotten like 800,000 views. It's been fantastic. The clips have been massive.

[D]

Massive.

[A]

When I did the debate with Brad Shapiro, that one's got hundreds of thousands and the clips have 304. It's massive. That political debate does really well. When we did the show. So typically the Friday morning shows will get 100,000 to 200,000. Not the biggest show ever. Once a week and we have a conversation. We had a conversation on the assassination of Charlie Kirk. It's got like half a million on YouTube alone and like another 300. So like 800k. The narrative is very obvious to everybody that even now it's more interesting to talk about the mystery of Charlie Kirk's murder than public policy. I am, again, I'm stressing this. I'm not going to go. I think it's silly. They attacked Tucker for interviewing Nick Fuentes because Tucker is his own person. He can talk about whatever he wants. Candace Owens does this kind of women's oriented drama show and she's always. She's allowed to do that and her show's big. What's demoralizing is that people care more about all of that right now. At a time when we desperately need to be rallying people as we're entering a midterm year and Trump is off message. I think Antifa literally shows up in a tax turning point USA attendees.

[C]

I think they just care about what they see. They're getting fed this guy. I just told Grok, change my algorithm to show Me, less drama content and more. Have you done it yet?

[A]

The point I'm making is YouTube, not Grok. I'm talking about people going on YouTube and people in the news. And what should be the how do we save America? Message is let's talk about, but, you know, conspiracy.

[E]

Is it possible that this is inorganic? Is it possible that the way that the far right that you're talking about gets propped up is through left wing.

[A]

Or, I'm sorry, I'll also add Israel stuff, too? The answer is yes. But if you operate under the assumption that everyone's out to get you all the time, you're going to miss what people are actually talking about. More importantly, even if it is propped up, if this is what's being fed to people as Ian's point, then that's the world they're going to live in. Now, I'll tell you the most frustrating thing is there's a. There's. I don't want to name shame anybody, but there are people who are political personalities, small, not big, regional. And all they're doing is talking about Israel now. And I'm like, you've. You're retarded. I'm sorry, like you. You are. You are retarded. Listen, criticizing Israel, fine. Saying that Israel is the. Is the preeminent foreign policy issue for the United States. Totally agree. Scott Horton comes on the show and says, listen, Israel and our work and our alliance with them and our funding of them is why we're deeply involved in these Middle Eastern wars. We should not be involved in. I say, fair point, a hundred percent. But when you now are attacking Trump on the issue of Israel and you've abandoned your core issue that brought you to prominence in the first place, you've gone retarded. And I'm telling you, I go to the grocery store or I'm hanging out with some younger guys at the casino or at the skate park or whatever, they're not sitting here being like, amen, what's up with Israel? They're going, I have no house. And I'm like, well, rest assured, if you go on the Internet, you'll find all the prominent personalities will fight against Israel on your behalf. And they're going to go, what? And that's what we are getting. It's Israel. It's Charlie Kirk. And I'm like, man, the coalition is fried.

[D]

Yeah, both sides are making a huge mistake. The pro Israel, some of them are going way too far. It's Israel, Israel. This why we should love Israel, why we must protect Israel, etcetera And they go too far and they forget about those issues that you were just discussing. And then on the opposite side you have anti Israel, everything is Israel's fault. And the problem with all of that is you're forgetting about Gen Z. Like we're just talking about it upstairs. Mandatory trade school in every single university. Is that hard? Is that too much to ask for?

[C]

No, I think that would be cool to have a couple of electives that were trade electives. That would have been awesome. Get your hands on like arc welders and stuff, right?

[A]

I want to pull up this story. We've got this from Fortune. Is Gen Z the financial anxiety generation? And on top of this, as we get into the Gen Z focus of this from Kelly Dry.com October layoffs at 22 year high. Legal considerations for employees. It's just a blog, but take a look at this. We're looking at. What is it? Verizon, I think just had mass layoffs. Amazon had mass layoffs. Gen Z has been labeled many things. Digital names, blah, blah, blah.

[E]

But.

[A]

But financial anxiety they do exhibit. Recent data from afterpay reveals that more than half of Gen Z consumers report getting the ick from credit cards, with 63% switching to alternative payment methods as a result. Additionally, for the first time in nearly four years, US debit card spending has outpaced credit card growth. Gen Z didn't grow up with the luxury of financial naivety. Blah, blah, blah, blah blah, et cetera, et cetera. The point is, they say Gen Z's approach to money has created an entirely new category of financial products. The philosophy behind what, what I think is conscious spending, etc. Etc. We get the point. The general idea, however, is that Gen Z is not able to make enough money to get apartments. They're competing with illegal immigrants and quote unquote, refugees who get free spaces. They're buying food on credit cards because they don't make enough to simultaneously have an apartment and have credit cards. And it's happening at greater and greater rates which is going to result in Gen Z dissociating or going communist. So I think what we're seeing now is Gen Z leftists are basically saying there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Society that you have built has left me destitute. So I will vote for Zoran Mamdani and AOC to take it from you. And I don't care if the system burns down. One thing I think everybody needs to understand. Let me tell you my perspective. In 2008, when I was in my early 20s. The news is breaking. The economy is collapsing. People are getting laid off. And you know what I said? I laughed. Laughed. You don't want to know why I laughed. Because I said, here's the floor, right? I want everyone to understand, here's the floor. Here's me, here's you. The economy collapses. I don't move an inch. I was already in bad shape. Things were already bad for me. So I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be, oh, no, woe is me. The market's collapsing. I don't see it. I was already sleeping on couches and barely making enough money as it is. So now when you have these Gen Z, these young Gen Z leftists, you can go to them and say, if you vote for Zoran Mandani or aoc, you will burn down the economy. They'll go, and I am not serviced by this economy. I don't care if it's destroyed. Yeah, but it'll go Mad Max, don't care. I'll get what I can and get out. What do you get on the right? The right just simply says, Trump's abandoned us. And they go, zoomer Waffen. They say we got to form our own communities, we got to restructure government. We need more authoritarian controls. I'm not calling them Nazis and saying they're, they're authoritarians. I'm saying nationalists. They want more authoritarian controls. They want more restrictions on cultural and social issues to restore a vision of what America used to be. That's the traditional conservative nationalist approach. Both sides are going to say, the make America great again is not the path for me. And then what's gonna happen? The left is gonna win, extract as much as they can, break and burn the system. And then those of us of moderate means, me, of course, obviously above that. I'm not trying to act like I'm not. But the people who have worked hard and found success are going to be stripped of that value and destroyed by an underclass that has upset the system, has abandoned them.

[C]

You know, the ping ponging of Democrats get elected, then Republicans, then this guy failed me, now this guy failed me is like, there's definitely outside forces manipulating that thing. So your hero gets in and then you realize he's not the hero you wanted. And then you look at the other direction, you vote for them, then you realize they're not the hero you thought they were. And then, but like at the top is like the federal reservist, the bankers like bankrupting everybody and it's over. Bro, Millions of dollars.

[A]

Liberal economic orders cooked, I hope. And that's why Hasan's in China.

[C]

What's that?

[A]

And that's why Hasan is in China.

[C]

China and the World Economic Forum, they seem to be competing with the liberal economic order. That's trying. That's ruptured.

[A]

Davos is the liberal economic order.

[C]

Then there's the Chinese, the bricks, the communist technocracy bricks.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Where they'll just delete your bank account if you jaywalk or if you say the wrong words, violate the order.

[A]

That's what Zimmerwaffen is going to want.

[C]

That's. It's. I've been thinking like that.

[A]

That's what they're going to want. The younger Gen Z guys are going to say we shouldn't let leftists burn everything down and we shouldn't let these people steal from us. We need harder controls. And they're. They're going. Whether. So the issue is the Spanish Civil War. It's. It's a question not of authoritarianism. It's a question of tradition versus progressivism. So the communist rise, like Spain or Germany and Italy is fascists. They are traditionalist authoritarian communists. Progressivist, authoritarian, authoritarian. The communists are like, destroy history, burn the books, and then we're gonna blank slate. The fascists are like, protect our history, burn the progressive books and then we're gonna control the system. Both sides basically saying the other side is the problem. And they both have a morally divergent worldview. So they look at each other as like, you are causing problems toward the world that I want. The other side, you are causing problems the world that I want. Both are in agreement that the old school system of doing things does not function. So Hasan Piker goes to China and said, how does he describe it? He's like, you've got abundant consumerism next to Soviet era, 50 Soviet style. Yeah. Communist blocks. So Hasan wants to live in a country where the government will go to you and say your ideas are bad for the machine. Deleted. That's how he wants to live. That's where we're gonna go. And I am not convinced. Listen, man, I have given the benefit of the doubt to cash. Dan, Pam, Trump and all the people in the Trump administration the whole year and Trump going on TV and saying more visas, more H1BS. I was like, that's it. It. That's it. I'm done.

[D]

Yeah, tone deaf, tone deaf. Listen, I think the solution is pretty simple. Charlie Kirk posted it plenty of times. It's been going around on Twitter so many times now, it's going viral. But I think the bottom line for the Gen Z, for people who are critical thinkers like ourself, is to continue to voice out loud and to provide solutions to them. So, like, again, trade school mindset, financial literacy mindset is why? Because if they keep thinking like a victim, as progressives want them to think, you're right, they won't care. Burn it all down.

[A]

You are correct. But here's the problem, because I made this argument the other day in that video where the guy's like, I'm a student full time and I only have 17 and I work. And I'm like, opportunity exists.

[D]

Right?

[A]

And that's. And that is right. And I do think that is a smart play to make. I will add, however, the response that I see from Gen Z is that's all well and good, Tim. I could work hard, but the communists are coming to take it from me anyway. So it's probably not a good idea to invest in that. The view, the view now is, sure, I could go to trade school, I could work hard, and then once I finally get a house and make money, Zoran Mandani is going to tax me, take my home, and they're going to attack me for being white. And it's like, well, I don't have a response.

[D]

Well, that is implying that Mandani is going to rule over every city in America.

[A]

Look at the communists who just won in Seattle. Gen Z Democrats are saying, we will burn your system down and take what we want because we haven't been serviced by this. And then the right's basically saying, even if I were to get a house right now, they're coming after us. And it's. The point I'm making is not to give up. You're correct about the trade school and all that stuff. The point is, Trump's supposed to be the leadership saying, we are going to make sure you will be safe. If you do right, if you have your house, if you have your family, you'll be protected. Instead, he's like, you won't be. I'm gonna bring in Indians and Chinese to take your jobs. You're not gonna get training, you're not gonna get a career. It's gonna go to them. And so the young people are like, okay, Trump's gonna take it from me and the commies are taking it from me. So you're gonna get Zoomer Waffen.

[D]

Yeah, Well, I was just gonna say, I think it confirms exactly who Donald Trump really is. He's a businessman, a dealmaker, not a Conservative, not a Republican.

[E]

He really didn't run as a conservative. He run as a reformist. You know, like the. I get it. I'm not nearly as black pilled. I live in Florida. It's awesome. I think we're gonna Balkanize a little bit. And to a certain degree, I know this is, you know, I'm gonna say this tongue in cheek, but, but good. Let, let, let them have socialism. Go ahead, go for it. We, it doesn't do us any good to tell you that the stove is hot. You got to touch it, figure it out for yourself and they're done.

[A]

That doesn't work.

[E]

You don't think so Chicago, Chicago is.

[A]

A whole different place.

[E]

But I mean look what happens in Florida. Everybody leaves. Now we are entering the politics of pain. And I saw it in my home state of New Jersey where Phil Murphy made it as hard as possible on his own.

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[A]

Agreed. And so what ends up happening now is New Jersey becomes entrenched Democrat. New York becomes entrenched Democrats. Seattle, Portland, California. You get geographic hyperpolarization. Yeah.

[E]

Balkanization.

[A]

And then you're going to end up with. So someone asked me recently, why is it bad that Mamdani won in New York? Who cares? Let New York burn. And I said New York has what I think 11 congressional seats. And with the exodus of moderate to conservative leaning people and high income earners you are going to have in the next midterm. They're talking about a socialist primary. Hakeem Jeffries and Hakeem Jeffries will lose because the moderates have fled because Zoran Mandani won. This means that it's going to come to an election of Hakeem Jeffries versus Communists and communist wins. And now we're going to have more communists in the federal government and Then they're going to keep voting to bring in illegal immigrants, tear down our borders and burn the country to the ground. That's the problem with socialists winning in these districts. And it keeps happening. Then what happens when you have red states versus blue states and they are so geographically hyper polarized it's not even a question of abortion. Right. Here's the example I've used. Oklahoma abortion totally banned Colorado abortion up to nine months. That's a morally divergent extreme case where that's terrifying. What happens when every issue is like that? What happens when people are in Colorado are doing meth and heroin at the same time in the streets And Oklahoma says we have to put up border guards on the highways going from Oklahoma to Colorado to stop the drug traffickers that are coming in because Colorado allows them to produce and distribute. Now you've got border checkpoints between states. Then Colorado votes in the federal government to legalize heroin and methamphetamine federally. They say we're going to take it off the schedule and all the blue commies vote and they inch out the Republicans. Or Thomas Massie is like, I refuse, I abstain. Then you get a red state saying no, a red line has been crossed. Or how about this? What happens if you get enough communists in the federal in Congress where they vote to legalize federally up to nine months abortion and force red states to comply? This is where you get into the territory where the red states say it's never gonna happen and we will defy the federal government. This is the problem with how things are bifurcating and why it's a problem that Donald Trump isn't being a leader to young people. You make a great point. He's a dealmaker. I understand why Trump said we need H1B. He's looking at the math. Economically, we don't have the young people, we don't have the skilled middle class right now to take up these managerial jobs and these manufacturing jobs. So Scott Besant is saying temporarily we will have H1BS so they can do these shipbuilding in these steelworking or aluminum jobs and then we'll start working on, on Gen Z not going to work. And it's just not reality. Well, Gen Z is not going to have kids. They're not going to take these jobs.

[D]

Yeah, it's actually a lie. It's not even these high skilled jobs. It's low. It's low jobs. It's not, it's like store clerk or cashier. It's not what people really think it is. And I think the Bottom line to it is the Trump administration needs to pivot to a message that gets the attention of Gen Z because if they fail to do that, it's not just a message, but results. Which might come next spring, by the way, because I think we're just in this period of where everything is a grind, it's monotonous, nothing's looking good. But then when January comes around, tax money comes in, cases start, these indictments actually go to court. What if some of this stuff actually swings his way? How will people fill then?

[A]

Far left will burn things down and kill people.

[C]

I think you're right.

[E]

You don't win a lot of. You don't win a lot of supporters doing that though. Their, their action front has actually been something that has been a net negative to them. Right.

[A]

So I mean, agreed.

[C]

The.

[E]

We need to also invest in the culture. The right just punts on culture. We don't have tv, we don't have movies, we don't have anything that, okay, great, so you're making money, but you don't reinvest in anything. They don't promote their worldview. Something as simple as Tommy Boy, right? Not to go too far afield here, but we don't make those movies anymore. And if you think Tommy Boy, you think fat guy in a little coat, right? Fat guy. But what is Tommy Boy? Tommy Boy is a literal journey of self discovery where a guy goes on the road, learns the value of fellowship, hard work, saves his dad's company, saves the community. It is the American dream. He gets the girl in the end, right? That if that movie's made today, him and David Spade end up having. They end up making love in the second act and some.

[A]

And then he returns home and the business is transferred over to a black lesbian to run.

[E]

That's right.

[C]

You should make a.

[E]

It's a community center.

[C]

You should make a movie about guys.

[A]

It's a community center subsidized by the government.

[E]

It's a subsidize. And that's what Netflix does.

[C]

You got to make a movie about guys making that movie that you're just talking about the woke Tommy Boy thing. It's a movie about these guys making a crappy.

[E]

Our movies are our parables. Our like, like, you know, just like it just being a big strong American. Like, when was the last time you saw that? I mean, we had, we had Arnold Schwarzenegger shaking hands with Carl Weathers and that was like, yeah, get a load of this Russia. You can, you can't even understand everything that we even have again for Gen Z, everything they watch. Doomer, Doomer, Doomer. This sucks. White people suck. America sucks. Like the last movie they had on Netflix where, you know, the, the, the, the, the missile is shot and they're showing everybody sucks. But it's also so incompetent. So you're saying every one of our four star generals like, oh my God, a missile's coming. How do you think that might go in the 80s? I want to stress Superman flying out.

[A]

There punching the muscle was a house full of dynamite.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It's not a movie. It's a 20 minute short film with no ending repeated four times.

[E]

Communist propaganda. Yeah, it's just communist propaganda. Everything. Squid games. Communist propaganda. The communists are investing. The communists are winning because they are investing in their message. The communists are winning.

[A]

The communists are winning, yes, for those reasons, but it's because they're blindly unified. It's their religious zealots, Right?

[E]

We're having a political conversation with people that are religious zealots.

[A]

And on the right, rest assured, Donald Trump will bring in more Indian workers and Chinese visas and your thought leaders will have an argument over Israel and Candace Owens and Megyn Kelly instead. This is the point about why it's demoralizing. Like again, I wanna make sure it's very clear. I'm not saying anybody's an obligation to talk about stuff. Candace Owens can talk about whatever she wants. The point is there's no more leadership. And I wonder if it's because Charlie was holding things together more than people realized, even behind the scenes.

[E]

Probably right? But I also think, and again, maybe I'm just too far afield in this. Megy Kelly's got a lot of money, right? Instead of, you know, Sean Hannity goes on and he just whines about liberal Hollywood. Sean, why don't you take some of that money, invest in a movie and then you could talk about your movie.

[A]

I got to jump in and agree. What really frustrates me is we here at Tim Cast spend almost all of the money that comes in on trying to build culture to push back in ways where we can do it most effectively. So tales from the Inverted World. Shane Cashman, he's critical of the AI, he's critical of Elon, and he's talking about weird, wild conspiracy. The purpose of doing that show is a segment of people who are apolitical. So we want to enter a space where the values that we hold, pro America, Christian values, they will permeate into other spaces. So that is a host like Shane is Great to talk about Bigfoot and aliens, but his core is Christian values. We have real quick, we have have with, with the boonies. Skateboarding got taken over by WOKE and they are trying to get kids to do weird, weird gay stuff. And so I said we need to be leaders in this space. I know a lot of people are critical of it. I think the op. I talked about this with Father Ripperger. I asked him if he thought it was demonic possession, that there are people pretending to be conservatives telling the right to abandon sports, video games and the arts.

[E]

Crazy.

[A]

And he said yes, that it is demonic influence obsession, not possession. I don't want to put words in his mouth, mouth, but when you have like G prime 85, who made these hilarious cartoons mocking the Biden administration that went massively viral and were really effective and conservatives attacked him nonstop. I'm like, those aren't real conservatives because you want to win on, you want to win culturally.

[E]

We won with memes. We won this last election with memes, man.

[A]

We, we need to be inspiring people. So, so here's the back to the original point. I look at people like Kennedy and his salary estimates. What like 50 million or something like that? I'm like, that's crazy. Dude could, could, could fund five movies per year without even breaking half his bank. You could do a million dollar budget on drama, short films, low cost. And now with AI, your CGI costs are gone. Someone like Kennedy who actually cared. Because we're trying as hard as we can to do this. We are trying to create cultural waves, music or otherwise. And it's because it's what we know. Yeah. So that we can inspire people. And then I look and I've talked about this quite a bit. These ultra wealthy people on the right, with all due respect, I don't know what Candace or Megyn Kelly or Tucker are doing outside of making a show with all the money they make, the millions of dollars in revenue that they generate, what are they doing with it? Honest question. I'm not trying to disparage them. I'm just saying there is more than enough money on this side to create cartoons, shows, comedy or otherwise. And we don't see it.

[C]

And scientific laboratories like cult politics is downstream of culture. That's a famous term, downstream. Culture is downstream of science, which used to be religion. Before science existed, it was just religion. That was the belief structure of reality. Now we believe in science as kind of mostly most people's religion. Some people blend religion and science, but you need to build religion and science. You don't need to build religion, you don't need. You need to build science. You need to control the networks that allow you to propagate culture, which will then change the minds of people in politics.

[A]

Well, a good point to what you're saying, Ian. The left uses science to control their cult. They publish. What was that? Did you guys just see that? One of these Covid studies got retracted because a lack of real data and it was used during COVID to convince people to abandon any alternative medication and just go with the vaccine. The left, they've infiltrated academia so that they can publish only the studies they want. When there was a study out of the University of Oregon, I think it was, that said potentially transgenderism in young people was social contagion, activists complained and they polled it well.

[C]

You know what? Not all students in the art and the sciences have been bought. This is actually laser induced graphene. Alex Latham, when I went to the Rice University nanotechnologies lab, he used a laser to etch Tim cat cast into this polymer. Tim cast news, politics and culture. He hit it with a laser so hot that it turned the plastic into graphene. So I'm going to give this to you, Tim. We'll keep this here on the table.

[A]

Yeah, put it on top. Yeah.

[C]

He's very excited. He loves you. He was very excited that I was working with you and with him to promote these technologies. And I think as much as we want to save and preserve our culture and our world, so many scientists, something.

[E]

That'S just a little. It's a little raw to me. I think you guys have had Dave Landau on.

[B]

Yep.

[E]

Great dude. So I write on a show Normal. We got canceled yesterday. So it's a little raw. Right, but. But for more political punditry, for more doomerism, for more. Everybody talks about what's wrong in America. Cause it gets clicks. They never proffer any solutions. They never say, okay, this is bad, but this is what I would do differently. Right. I mean, Ron Paul famously said, you know, and I was a libertarian for a long time before I came to grips with the fact that that's probably as utopian coded as communism is.

[B]

Same thing with me.

[E]

I was a grandpa guy. Yeah, we'll just let the. Just let the marketplace of ideas and China's just like, yes, do that. Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah. We'll infiltrate your systems for 100 years and your children will be reading Lenin. So, yeah, the concept is it's too profitable to be a doomer. We have problems, sure. The horrors persist, but so do we. If I could be a hippie white pill right now. Not to steal your role here, Ian, but the if the concept is, look at how they have pushed us. We have been subject for at least 10 years, if not 20, all right, to economic warfare, biological warfare, psychological warfare. It's been a nonstop information and propaganda war. They have tried to separate us by race, they have tried to separate us by gender. They have tried to turn people against each other based on political views, on religion. And yet still we're here, still we're together, still. The fabric of society may be stretched, but I travel this country doing comedy and it's on the ground. It is not the same in real life as it is online. Right. They have done everything they possibly can do to destroy us and demoralize us. And we've taken some hits, sure. But this country persists and it survives. And we're going through the birthing pains of this fourth industrial revolution and I hope that we can outgrow our profits. I don't know if we can or we can't. But the issue that. To your point, Tim, there's a lot of money in telling everybody how bad it is and nobody is showing anything. And the Ron Paul quote is the problem with Bernie Sanders. He said the problem with Bernie Sanders is he identifies all of America's problems correctly. He just offers solutions that would make them worse. Right. So where are the solution people? Where are the people that are saying I offered it before go after student loan debt? Tim's right. You're losing Gen Z. That doesn't mean they're lost. You can win them back tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, tomorrow. Let's jump to this from Newsweek. Hassan Piker stopped from filming by police in China. What we know. Heavens, they say that? Let's jump to the what to know part. As the group weighted, Piker joined fellow Twitch streamer Will Neff that we're all in Tiananmen Square, so we're all becoming Chinese. Jeez, dude. Neff held up his phone and to the camera to show what appeared to be the AI created image showing Mao in the likeness of Piker accompanied by the Maoist slogan closely follow the great Leader Chairman Mao. Ford and revolution. Within seconds, a police officer approached and instructed them put away the phone, which they did. Of the autocap recording. He wants to see the photo. He says, oh, I was. He said he saw you. I was just holding the camera, but I didn't do anything. The officer then asked to review the most recent footage from the live stream. The broadcast broadcast abruptly cut to black with an intermission screen displaying the message. We're doing secret memes. Be right back. When it resumed, Piker and the group were seen laughing about the encounter as they continued toward the square. This is awesome. I don't know why people aren't enjoying all of this. And here's what happens. I believe he said this statement after the police.

[B]

This is after my mind.

[A]

In my conscience, I have already become Chinese. Okay.

[E]

We were already white Chinese in this chat.

[A]

I've already become full Chinese.

[E]

See, Things are better already.

[B]

Let me just start by saying that.

[E]

It's fucking sick, okay?

[D]

Like, you have.

[A]

Abundance style consumption paired.

[E]

Up with.

[A]

A centrally controlled economy, an.

[E]

Economic system that has yielded tremendous development. You have 1950s Soviet era building blocks.

[B]

Next to the Gucci store.

[A]

If there was more, if there was.

[E]

Ever a country that represented the synthesis, the, the, the. The things that I enjoy so much personally.

[B]

If ever such a country existed.

[E]

I do not know.

[A]

Hasan Piker praising China, which has Uyghur Muslims in prison camps where they're raped and forced to get abortions, but that's what he loves. The fascinating thing is I have no problem pointing out the US has problems with drone strikes, the killing of civilians. Abdurman Al Awlaki. I can point out China doing it as well. The reason why I can't stand people like Hassan is that he's just in favor. He just wants to be on the winning team. I think he's making the bet here that the US Empire is crumbling and China is ascendant. So that's why he's praising China.

[C]

That's a horrible miscalculation.

[B]

It's imbecile. Because he's talking about all of this. He's talking about abundance that China has. China does not have that. In the absence of the United States, China has all of that because they are making things and selling these things to the rest of the world.

[A]

World.

[B]

And so without capitalism, without markets and access to markets, China has none of that. So Hasan, thinking that he's in some kind of socialist utopia is. Is an abs. Is a misunderstanding of what he's actually experiencing, and he's not smart enough to. To address that or, or understand that.

[E]

He's just happy to let him eat dogs. Yeah. Are you guys in favor of the tariffs? What are you. I'm protesting on.

[A]

You're proud of it.

[E]

But, but.

[A]

And the tariff dividend is a brilliant idea. Although I think Trump's overestimating the idea.

[C]

Of taking my money with tariffs, making my products cost 20% more, and then giving 2,000 people to a bunch. $2,000 to a bunch of people makes me irate.

[A]

Why?

[C]

That's wealth distribution and I'm not into that.

[A]

I'm fine.

[B]

Redistribution?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Wealth distribution.

[A]

It's trade protectionism. The idea is if you want to buy products from overseas that's detrimental to the United States, so you will pay a tax on that, which makes it more competitive for American companies to produce the products. And then we're not keeping that money for the government. It's going back to the people so that this stimulates more economic activity.

[C]

It goes back to me. If it goes back to every person, that's one thing.

[A]

It just goes back to people with two grand, bruh.

[C]

If it just goes back to the people with under $29,000 a year, you know, if it goes under, if there's a cap in the wealth distribution division.

[B]

Correctly, it's going to go to people that make less than $100,000 a year.

[C]

I hope that doesn't. Someone told me I sound heartless when I'm saying that, but it is a form of wealth redistribution that. But it's like who, who, who thinks they have the authority to do that?

[A]

Right? The U.S. government does.

[E]

Bessant made a very good argument to Tim's point about the national security of like, again, there's, you know, 90% of all our pharmaceuticals come from Southeast Asia. Is that, you know, our, we have parts for our naval. We have. Our navy is getting parts from China. I mean, I don't, I don't. How can you justify that? So, I mean, if we have to create incentives for business to come back here again, if we, we are looking at a Gen Z issue, a working class issue where people don't have opportunity to compete for the American dream, well, then that is the government's job, right? To make sure the free market has to. You still need referees to keep it free. It's not a free for all. It's not anarcho capitalism. Right. I mean, there has to. You can't compete with slave labor abroad and it is cheap. And I used to understand the supply side argument all too well. But, but as we're seeing it here, we've been exploited. We've been exploited by the people that make things and selling it to people that don't.

[A]

So the tariffs so far have brought in $195 billion. They could give 97.5 million people a $2,000 dividend. Actually kind of makes sense. If they're targeting lower income people, then it seems like it is possible they do this especially by the end of the year. I'm for it. The example I often give is the example that I know, skateboarding. It makes no sense for the United States to buy lumber from Canada, ship it to China, then ship it to the United States to sell a skateboard. And all it does is shut down American factories and American lumber demand. The bigger issue, of course, is that we import all of our aluminum from Canada, but Canada doesn't even have bauxite mines, so they're importing their aluminum from China and Brazil, refining it and then selling it to us at a premium, which makes literally no sense. So put tariffs on it, shut that down and say we need refineries in.

[C]

The United States and recycling plants. They're now with indeed gaseous chlorine. They can recycle rare earth metals really easily now. Really.

[A]

We have Alaska as well. So the issue is free trade. The plot. Here's why you should support Trump, Ian. The liberal economic order launched after World War II was trying to prevent World War Three. The idea was if we create economic ties by force, war can't happen. Why did war stop in Europe? Because trade, everybody traded, they intermingled and then didn't want to fight because their wealth was tied to it. So they said, here's the plan. We will give away lower tier economic blocks from the United States to foreign countries. Canada, China, Mexico, Indonesia, etc. We will then tell all of the American youth to go to college so they will be specialists who make more money. The Americans will design the products and run the businesses where the cheap Chinese labor does all the work. The only problem, we are not the smartest people. You can't just put people in college. So what ends up happening is the liberal economic order gave away our manufacturing base, our steel, our aluminum, auto manufacturing, etc. To foreign countries. Skateboards, clothing, made no sense. They gave it away. We can't now restart it and it's been a detriment to our economy. We again, it makes no sense. Climate change wise. That's a liberal argument that we are in that Canada imports from bauxite mines in Australia and then refines the aluminum and sends it to us when we could just do it directly and cut the middleman and save energy. The point is the tariffs are attempting to stop the liberal economic plot to force people around the world into the petrodollar by giving away American manufacturing and resources.

[C]

Okay, if incentivizes, I'd be happy to start a manufacturing plant.

[A]

Let me put it this way. The skateboards that are made in China are selling for $90 or $100 on these professional skate websites. Boonies team boards, 50 bucks. Boonies pro models, 55 bucks. Because the wood is all from the United States. That's manufactured United States, printed in the United States and shipped in the United States. We don't have to put them on boats. The problem is if we had the skateboards made in China by Chinese peasant labor, we would save $5 per board. So American manufacturers can't compete with Chinese peasant labor.

[C]

Have you noticed a reduction in cost of production since the tariffs, like a year of 6 months? Have you noticed anything, any changes?

[A]

Nothing's changed for our American skateboard production because it's. We're not impacted by the tariffs. Coffee, however we have, we have eaten one on that. And that's why I said the tariffs don't make sense for coffee because coffee is regional and we don't grow it here. Except for Kona. In, in Hawaii.

[C]

Are there companies that have sprung up since.

[E]

I mean, there's a lot of grow coffee. I was just talking with the black rifle guys. We don't have the climate or the altitude for Hawaii. Hawaii.

[A]

That's the only.

[E]

I do forget that they are in America.

[A]

That's coffee. And it's some of the best coffee. Seriously, Kona coffee is like top with that volcanic soil. Oh, yup, yup. Some of the best.

[C]

This is volcanic water, by the way. Icelandic. Oh, no, it's glacial water. I'm sorry, plastic. It's glacial. Yeah, unfortunately, glacial water.

[A]

So we are able to produce some of the best coffee, but not enough of it.

[D]

Yeah. I think the problem is the American voter we were talking about this earlier is a hypocrite. So you want jobs, you want our economy to be better, but that means we need to deal with China. If we deal with China, that means entrepreneurs are going to go out of business because a lot of their businesses are leveraged with Chinese products. So which one is it?

[A]

Well, it's because we gave away our manufacturing because peasant Chinese labor is cheap and un American worker can't compete. So now Gen Z is like, I can't get a job. Don't worry, the Chinese peasant can. So what does Trump do? Okay, here's what we're going to do, and it's brilliant. If you want a skateboard from China, it's going to cost you 50% more. You buy it from America, it's going to be no tax. This means that these companies can't hire Chinese peasants to outcompete American workers. Anymore.

[C]

This other aspect of competition, which is China and the United States, is the Belt and Road Initiative. Chinese are investing in Africa and a lot of mining. There's cobalt mining going on in the Congo. Well, now we just have. I mean, this is like in the last year, six, eight months, they've figured out, using chlorinated gas, how to recycle the cobalt and reuse it. So we don't need to rely on these mines in Africa as much as. And I mean, we can get that reduction ideally that we harvest enough of a supply that we don't need any external foreign mines. So it's extremely promising.

[E]

We are re industrializing here in America at an unbelievable pace. Like that is something that has been done over the last year. There are incredible things this administration has done not to cheerlead. There are great things that they're doing as far as upgrading technology. They're doing things with air travel that's going to revolutionize. Are they going to run out of time?

[D]

Yes.

[E]

That becomes. When you have the midterm, and then you're going to be lame duck going into 28, are they going to have the time to get to the finish line? And that, I think, more than anything else is where you get frustrated with what. How much time they spent and how many. How much energy and resources they spent, especially, you know, in information and media equity, on foreign policy, because what they're doing at home. And I love Besson. I think Besson's great, man. I think he's brilliant. And I see the vision. And you said something to me yesterday like, man, if we could just get America to go on a diet. I don't know why you said it to me personally, but if we could just get America to go on a diet for 12 months, we can set ourselves up for the next 30 years if we can get this country to buy in. And I think to Tim's point, the right leader could do that. The right leader could do. Guys, listen, I know this isn't great right now, but this is the plan and it's gonna work. And we just all need to get together, come together.

[A]

Let's.

[E]

Let's not spend. Let's. Let's have an economic diet for 12 months, guys, and we'll throw a big party in 12 months.

[A]

This is the problem of the decent. This is the problem of Democratic constitutional Republicanism. A king can simply stand there and say, we are overspending and cuts are going to happen in the budget, and.

[E]

If you don't like it, too bad.

[A]

And if you don't like it. I got a different kind of cut. So the issue right now is the speaker of the House is going to say, we need to reduce the budget. We're in a deficit. The Democrats are going to say, no, you cut Republicans. No, I can't. Everybody argues and everyone agrees. You know what? Let's all just keep deficit spending. There's no centralized authority to say, I'm making the decision. We're making the cuts.

[E]

11 billion a year off snap.

[A]

Think about a business where the boss goes. I have to make a hard choice. We're going to be laying people off because we don't have infinite money. I have fired 10% of the staff. And it's unfortunate, but we're closing the, you know, the travel and exploration division of the media company. Then people are all sad. If there was no boss and everybody from the company had to come in and sit down and argue over who was getting fired, they're all going to say, not me. Is it going to be you? No, don't vote against me if you all side with you. And then they go, how about we just steal money from other people so we don't got to get fired? And that's. That's the American system.

[D]

Yeah. I think one or two things are true. One, maybe he went into the White House with the mindset of, I'm going all in on this. And then, of course, the courts got involved. Deep State got involved and started slowing him down. Or two, maybe he doesn't have the people around him who are willing to do what it takes, because what we're asking for is a bit. It's. It's a big price that needs to be paid. We need to deal with China. People scream about Israel every day, and they have nothing to say about China. Are you kidding me? China could end us tomorrow just with the supply chain. They don't even need to deploy their military.

[E]

Well, China, a disease escaped from one of their labs.

[D]

Exactly.

[E]

And set the world, put the world on pause for five years. Untold economic pain. Untold. And they've never once been held accountable. Not only that, has anybody ever been like, well, we're not doing trade with China because, you know, they infected the world. Not once. Right. So isn't that kind of weird that nobody's ever once been like, hey, China, you owe us something.

[D]

They're still the best finger selling a book, screaming about Fauci all day long, but not actually prosecuting him.

[C]

You know, I used to think that Trump didn't have the people around him that knew what the best technologies on the planet are that we need to implement. And that may still be the case, but there's a lot of Department of Energy contracts that aren't on the news that I'm learning about when I'm at the nanotechnologies labs. Like, they're pumping this technology into the government right now. So there might be a hyper acceleration going on with some competitive undertec, like transforming to a carbon based system instead of a steel, like, instead of heavy steels, you've got like lightweight carbons and hydrogen fuels instead of petroleum fuels. I think that that might be happening behind the scenes. I just need the morale boost from the President.

[D]

Yeah, I think, I think really quickly he planted the seeds. They don't harvest overnight. So let's see what happens next year. Because I think that's judgment time. I think judgment time for everything he's done in the first 10 months is going to be next spring. And it's either going to be okay, I see where this is going finally, or to Tim's point, it's a nightmare.

[B]

Well, I mean, so one of the, one of the positive things about Donald Trump, and it's really easy to get blackpilled considering, like, the way things have gone for the past few months, but Donald Trump is not, not an ideologue, right? He's not a, a libertarian ideologue who, who totally believes that libertarian ideas are the way to go. He's not a socialist who's like, this is, you know, Marx was right and blah, blah, blah. He's not, he's not ideologically motivated. He's motivated by his own ego and he's motivated by being able to say, look, I did this and it worked. He wants people to like him. He wants to be successful. So if they, if a policy is not working, he will change that policy. And there is, there's, you know, there's, there's evidence he has a historical precedent having done that kind of stuff.

[A]

If he's, he's got a policy that.

[B]

He'S, he's pushing or that he's championing and it doesn't work, he will change it. If there is something that he thinks, if there's a policy that's brought to him that he thinks will work, he will try it. And that is something that you can say, you know, this might be a, a saving grace for the Trump administration because he, the, I'm sure that he's heard a bunch of the pushback on the H1BS and hopefully that will be, you know, he'll he'll actually adjust course with that because that's not popular and the American people don't want that.

[E]

He's missing Kelly McEnany too. I mean Carolyn Levitt, whatever. You think Kaylee got the message out. She was on point. She, she could communicate. They're losing the information.

[A]

I don't, I don't want anything else. I don't know how you recover from Trump saying on TV H1 1B's.

[D]

I know they're, they're trying but yeah.

[A]

It'S because you have to be realistic. Trump's being honest. Yeah, that I bring up all the time. Gen Alpha is 42 million people in three years. Gen Alpha should be entering the workforce, but they're half the size of Gen Z and we already don't have the Gen Z 18 year olds because the, the, the birthright drop off extends into the youngest portions of Gen Z as well. Universities are already closing. Mathematically you need workers now, otherwise the system will break down. All that matters is this. Immigration won't solve the problem. It's abandoned on a bullet wound. And no civilization has ever recovered from this trend, ever.

[E]

No civilization trend?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

No civilization ever had this technology that we have either.

[A]

Sure. The issue is that 18 years ago I was supposed to have a kid. Historically and traditionally at 22 is when I would have my first child. I didn't. I was sleeping on floors. I had $10 an hour job at the airport. I could barely afford rent or a car. And so I figured how to make things work. But for all that I've talked about with, I succeeded. I started a business. I wasn't able to start a family at that time. And realistically by 30 I could have. But trying to, to succeed and work and not just stagnate was part of what motivated me in the first place. So for many young people, just nobody had kids. You cannot have children right now to solve the problem of 18 years ago. So even if everybody right now had four kids, it's still going to be 20 years until we turn things around.

[C]

Sometimes a bandage on a bullet wound will keep you alive long enough to get to the hospital.

[A]

18 years on a bullet wound, strong.

[C]

Enough bandage, it could keep you alive until the solution is presented. And there's this technology called, they're calling it the molecular jackhammer. It's this little molecule, it goes out and in a trillion times a second when you shine infrared light on it, it may be able to incite pregnancy and help women become more fertile. So we may be able to see women Having kids into their later season six.

[E]

I got one of those. It came.

[C]

You got the jackhammer on you?

[E]

I got one of these.

[C]

I can tell.

[E]

It came stock.

[C]

Yeah, dude, they were built.

[E]

Hold on.

[D]

The problem is this. 40% of women under 30 years old want to lead this country, and they do not want to have kids.

[C]

So you got to change their mindsets.

[D]

That's what I said. Step one is always mindset.

[C]

It's actually. Well, according to Tony Robbins, you change your.

[A]

There's.

[E]

There's probably somebody. Dude, there's probably somebody out there, like Elon or somebody's probably working on like, trying to get female gestation and pregnancy down to like three months or something. They're working on it officially again.

[D]

The problem is that's a symptom. The root causes in here. Why do. It's just like what you were saying. Why can't an 18 year old, a 19 year old, get one income, get a house and have a family? That's the root cause.

[A]

I want to pull up this story from Upworthy. Millennial woman uses clever three wishes metaphor to explain why she doesn't want kids. Okay, let's. Let's, let's hear this. You know how I know that I don't want to have kids? If you gave me a genie and you said you'd have to. Okay, wait, let's try this again.

[C]

I was like, AI.

[A]

I tried to make it bigger. Yeah, I have kids. If you gave me a genie and you said you can have three wishes and I said, I want unlimited money. I want a 100% guarantee that I'm going to have zero complications in my pregnancy, my birth. It's not going to cause any problems in my relationship at all. And I'd magically have unlimited time to be able to do everything that I wanted, as well as raise this child. I still wouldn't do it. Not everybody is meant to procreate, and that is okay. And it's not some kind of feminist brainwash telling me that I'm finally allowed and should be selfish. It's that we are the first generation that's openly talking about it like this, and it makes people mad. Oh, but Tara, you're going to be missing out on so much if you don't have kids. Yes. And you're going to be missing out on so much by having kids that I'm going to have in my child free life.

[D]

Life.

[A]

That is. Okay, that's not true.

[E]

Bookmark and check back in in 15 years.

[A]

Right, but like, babysitters exist. Like the Idea that, like, you had a kid and all of a sudden now you can't do things like, what are you doing? You want to go on vacation? You can bring your kid or you can hire a babysitter. Or like, this is, this is the funny thing, the idiocy and the brainwashing of this. We used to live with our families. So, like, if. If my wife and I want to go do something, guess what? Mother in law, you know, or grandma will watch baby. There's literally no concern or issue whatsoever. The thing is, we usually just want to stay home and hang out with. With the kid. Like, I would rather watch my daughter learning how to crawl. It's exciting. Than go do anything else. This is the brainwashing that she doesn't understand because people aren't around family and kids anymore. But because of this insanity, you now have a collapsing civilization everywhere, not just in the United States, because she doesn't understand. And you know what it is? It's like Dennis Prager called it, with cut stem politics or whatever you call it. Cut root. I always get the phrase wrong. But he says, you hold up a beautiful flower and everyone can see how beautiful it is, but you've severed it from its roots and in a matter of time it will die. So what happens is you get women who are told to believe they can have it all. They can't, so they don't. Then they're told to justify why they don't have families and why they should be happy. Then they go into media jobs and tell other women they're happy. Trust me. Then you get women who grow up, don't even understand. So that argument from her is fascinating because if you wanted to be honest and you actually had kids and said, here's what it was like before I had kids. Here's what it's like when I have kids. What does almost every single parent tell you?

[C]

Kids are better.

[A]

Kids are better. I love my kids. I would never. I can't imagine living without them. I should have had kids sooner. I wish I had more. Yet for some reason, all of the people who never had kids are like, I'm totally fine not having kids.

[E]

No, it's not just women. I felt victim to that propaganda. I had a good woman that, you know, that I need to make my millions, yet I need to do my career. I got it. And now I sit here 10 years on, not married, childless. I do go to Colombia a couple times a year. So I don't know. But as far as I know, not, you know, I don't have any kids. And it's, it's pretty, it's harrowing because I think for a long time I didn't think I wanted kids. Now I do want kids for sure. And now I start thinking, you know, my parents are getting older. I've robbed them of the joy of watching their grandkids grow up. And to your point, like, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna be 60 in the club, you know, like I'm gonna be sitting there with a bunch of cat ladies, you know, having another bottle and another in cat. Like it's this idea that you had to be wealthy to have kids. Everybody's broke. I know people that make a million dollars a year and put half a million of it up their nose. Like, everybody's broke, dude. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

So, like, and broke state of mind a lot of times too.

[B]

Everybody figure it out.

[E]

Yeah. It's a big mistake I made. And I feel very, very bad for our generation because we were definitely psyoped into.

[A]

Well, it's not just that the economy was bad. There's a bunch of factors that conspired against us. And we were told by these leftists and anti America people, they fomented this problem. But I want to say this. I am successful. I am of resources. I could do a lot of things. I could charter a private jet and go fly to Iceland and party over the weekend. I could, I could literally do whatever I wanted. I could book a private jet for next weekend. We got the skate event coming up this weekend for next weekend and go to Nolan's and play poker in the Big Easy. I don't want to. My daughter has started waving for the first time.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So, you know, whenever, like my wife would see me, she'd come over, she waves and then I would wave back. And then just in the past couple of days, my daughter was almost nine months, she's now waving her arm at us and we're like, she's learning and it's, it's magic. And I'm like, I gotta be honest.

[E]

The AI is evolving.

[A]

The thoughts of, I gotta be real. Like life gets boring at a certain point. I have traveled the world. I have been to 30 some odd kind, like 36 different countries. I have witnessed revolutions and the fomenting of civil war. I was in Ukraine at the start of, of what turned into the civil war and now eventually a full scale war. I was in Egypt during revolution. I gotta, I gotta be honest. Eventually it's just like, it's kind of I've been there, done that, and now I have a daughter. And it's like the most interesting thing ever and the most exciting thing, seeing her grow and develop. And these women are being told to what, Go to the club for the 3,000th time, get drunk, and then go bang some random guy? At a certain point, don't you get bored of doing nothing?

[E]

But at this time, it's in Mykonos.

[C]

Oh, I got.

[A]

I gotta tell you, I have.

[D]

Have.

[A]

I have been to most of the countries I could care to be. To have traveled to. Right. Morocco, I guess. I guess Antarctica might be fun. But we can. We can still do it, even with kids. It's just at a certain point, I started to notice, yeah, Japan was really fun, but it's not distinct enough to want to go there all the time. You want to move there, move there. Good luck. They're very, you know, not pro immigration, but I guess now they are. So at a certain point, I don't understand these women who are like, I just don't wanna have kids. I wanna do stuff. Do what? Like, honest question, do what? You've been to the club, you've been to the show, you've seen it a million times. Culture is stagnating. What more could interest you? These women, I'll tell you. This is what I said of Chelsea Handler. She's gonna be 60, 68, 70 years old, dying, and they're gonna bring her into. She's gonna be in the hospital room. The doctor's gonna come in and say, ma', am, I'm sorry, but it's terminal. Is there someone you'd like me to call? And she's gonna go, no. And he's gonna say, well, press the button if you need anybody. And they're gonna walk out. And then she'll be sitting there staring at the beige wall as she slowly dies. That's. Hell, yeah. Or you have kids and the doctor comes in and says, I have terrible news. It's terminal. Is there anyone you need me to call and just say, no, my family's outside waiting. And then your three kids and your seven grandkids are all standing there crying, saying they love you, and they're gonna be there for you till you know. And everything you've built and everything you dreamed of will carry on forever.

[E]

That'll also give you the. That'll give you, as somebody who has family that's going through cancer right now, that gives you the will to fight on.

[A]

My God, I would not wish.

[C]

Keep you young, Chelsea.

[A]

Imagine Chelsea Handler I would not wish that my worst enemy, her having terminal cancer in her twilight years in a hospital bed with all of the money that can buy her nothing. And she's just alone. Because what's going to happen to these people? I tell you the nightmare story. Let me. Let me. Let me put it like this. I'll try to be nice. I'm hanging out at the casino, playing poker, as I like to do, and there are guys who are like 77 years old playing poker every single day with their Social Security money. And, you know, when I first started playing here, I was talking to some of the. Some of the younger guys, and I was like, you know, what's with all the older dudes who just sit here and they barely play? They'll get two cards and they'll throw them away no matter what, almost. And it's like, well, they don't want to lose their money because they're only here because they're lonely. So these older guys have no friends. Now, here's, here's. Here's. Here's the kicker. They have family. Their kids grew up. Their kids are off doing their thing, and they're lonely. But the reality is their friends are all dead. And so I'm like this old dude who's spending his Sunday 12 hours sitting at a table, not really playing the game like, they call him Old Man Coffee.

[E]

Just to be around somebody because they.

[A]

Because their friends are all dead. And so they're around, a guy's conversation might happen. And one of the days is really funny. I'm a goofball sometimes at the poker table. And so old man finally raises. And you know what's happening when the old man does this? He's got aces. He's got the best hand. And so I had something trash for like 74 off suit. And I just. I'll give the old man action. I call, hit two pair, beat him. He was there for like 20 minutes. He stands up and goes, well, I guess that's it. And then just turns around, starts walking off, and I'm like, welling up, like, oh, man.

[C]

Yeah, that's why I stopped playing, taking people's money.

[A]

And then it's not about that. It wasn't. It wasn't about taking his money. It's that he only had a little bit. And what he really wanted was just to spend time with the boys. But here's the sad reality. There's a point. They don't have the boys anymore. Let me tell you another thing that's going to rip out the Heart of all the millennial guys, you're hanging out with your buddies.

[E]

You could have staked them, Tim.

[A]

Hold on.

[C]

Yeah, you could have slid a 20.

[A]

Hanging out with your friends, playing Halo multiplayer. You ordered some pizzas and wings, and the Mountain Dew is right there on the table. It's messy. Someone's rolling a joint, and you play. It's about one in the morning. You're gonna go home, go to sleep. You've got class in the morning. So you get up and you say, all right, boys, till next time. And they say, right on. But there never was a next time. That was the last time you guys got together and played video games and you didn't know was the last time.

[C]

That one doesn't get me as much because I'm about to play some Fallout 76 with my homies from high school and now we all have kids.

[D]

Well, not.

[A]

I have. Point is, at a certain point, I.

[B]

Forgot that I don't have kids.

[A]

There was a last time for everything. There was a funny post on Reddit where they said at one point, you picked up your child for the last time and you didn't realize it. And it was really funny because a guy commented saying, my dad walked into my. He's like. He was 20. He's like, I'm 20 years old. My dad walked into the kitchen, lifted me up, and I said, dad, what the hell are you doing? And he was like. Like, hell, I haven't picked up my son for the last. You're my kid. But. But what I'm saying is, to these women who don't have kids, when I see these old men who even did have kids and are still looking for some kind of time to spend with other people, it is the utmost of horrifying hellscape realities. You know, they say that the final circle of hell, the ninth circle of hell, you are chewed in the mouth of Satan, surrounded by ice for eternity for your betrayal. And if. If I had to choose between dying lonely in a sterile and at least Satan is there with you. Like, solitary confinement is torture because humans need the presence of others. That's right.

[E]

Right.

[A]

So these. These Chelsea Handler type women who are going to be dying of, you know, experiencing renal failure in the hospital and the like, here's my point about Chelsea Handler. Those who know who she is and care what she has to say are going to die. She will be an old woman. And Jen Alpha and Jen Bravo are going to be like, I don't know who that lady is.

[E]

Yeah, she's selling the disease of loneliness.

[A]

I remember when George Burns died. You guys remember when George Burns died. Meant nothing to me. But for my. I remember my parents were like, wow, I remember when George Carlin died. And that meant something to me a little bit because as a child I saw some of these George Carlin comedy specials. I knew he was famous and I was a fan as I was growing up as a teenager. But I know if you go to most Gen Z people, the death of George Carlin was like, I don't know, he's a guy who died.

[E]

John Madden for me and.

[A]

Right. And so Chelsea Handler will come to that point where the younger generation is like, we don't know or care who you are.

[C]

Yeah. Your fans aren't your friends. I mean, no offense, people watching, probably you feel a kins. But the reality is your family, man, the people that you spend every day with and build this what's called pragma. It's a kind of love. This is pragmatic love that's developed through overcoming adversity with people. That's your family.

[A]

Chelsea Handler is going to spend her twilight years when she is not convalesced in her, her, her estate with some like gen Gen Alpha or Gen Bravo caretaker who's wiping her ass and changing her diapers. And she's going to be a, a bitter old crone like in those movies. And the kids outside are going to be playing baseball and they're going to be like, the ball lands in her lawn and go, no, no, don't go over there. That's old lady Handler's house. And they're going to. Some kid's going to be like, I ain't scared to know which. And they're going to run over to grab the ball and she's going to look out the window and go, you get off my lunch.

[B]

Get old lady Handler.

[D]

I would say people like her that you read in this article, including Chelsea Handler, is that they have lost their purpose. And that's the biggest thing with these women today is they have no purpose. They think the money, the career is their purpose. No, it isn't. It's just like a man. What is our purpose? To protect, to provide, to build. And a woman's purpose is to nurture right support. And there's a lot of skills and innate talent that women have that are going to waste. And they're, you know, going into these careers, which there's nothing wrong with getting a career, but there is nothing like having.

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

But there's nothing like having children. And the people who Rage against having children are people who don't have children. It's from a place of ignorance.

[B]

A friend of ours, that's a great point. A friend of ours from the uk, his name's Carl, he continuously tells people, you have a responsibility to have children. You have a responsibility to raise those children, to carry on humanity.

[A]

Let me just. I'll get to the meat and potatoes here. This woman saying she won't have kids. Not her personal, because I don't know her politics, but many of these women are liberal leftists. They vote for Kami Mamdani. How dare you demand that my child pay taxes so you can be funded by the state because you didn't have a family. When most of these millennial men and women who vote left are struggling to walk and crapping in their pants the state, it's gonna happen because there are so many childless men and women, particularly millennials, they are going to be propped up by the state. They're going to vote. They're going to be in their 50s and 60s and they're going to say.

[E]

We want the government to clean our butts.

[A]

And that means the money for that is going to come from my daughter.

[B]

It'll be millennials and possibly Gen Z that are going to be saying terrible things or that are going to be relying on young people to pay for them. And those same people currently right now are bitching about the boomers, how the boomers didn't do anything for them, and blah, blah, blah. And they're doing the exact same thing by not having kids. They're making it so that way the younger generations are going to have more and more of a difficult time to pay for their Social Security, their Medicare, their Medicaid. It's disgusting when you really think about it.

[A]

It's not just that boomers own the corporate equities and the properties. It's that these millennial women, largely femme, and the reason I'm saying women is not to highlight, not to single out women for having kids because men don't have kids too. It's because they overwhelmingly vote left and the right doesn't. They're expecting Gen Alpha and Bravo to pay Social Security taxes so the government can wipe their asses for them when they're. When they're elderly and dying.

[E]

They've been promised a life without accountability, responsibility. That's what it is. They've been sold. And this is what socialism does. They've been sold a life sans accountability. Nothing's your fault. Nothing will ever be your fault. Nothing is ever on You. But instead they've been given a life without purpose.

[D]

To your point exactly. You know, Tim, you said something earlier, which is when you make a lot of money, which I do now, I'm very blessed, I will say that.

[A]

Congratulations.

[D]

You realize, wow, it really doesn't matter. I mean, you realize, well, if I lost it, I can make it again. Or you realize, especially when you have kids. Yeah, my son right now, who I just miss him right now, you know, I mean I, I literally would rather be there. I love being here, by the way, but you know what I mean, that, that feeling of like, oh man, I gotta leave right now.

[A]

Well, we, we were in, we went to DC for the Comedy Loft show and my wife and daughter stay. Or actually a better example is I went to Austin to do a bunch of going other people's shows. I was just the whole time being like, I'd rather be back there hanging out with family. Like I said, it is infinitely more interesting to me when my daughter waved to me for the first time than literally anything else. And to be fair, you know, I'm almost 40, so I have done a lot and the argument is like, you're in your 20s and you want to see the world, you want to do things, but all of that is still possible.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The, the. It's, it's. I would, I would have rather have had a kid younger and then now be like, okay, now I'm going to go travel and do stuff that, you know, empty nester or whatever you got to do. But you know, it could go either way. What I will just say is I feel like everything that was interesting to me I've largely done. And most things now are of trivial novelty. So if someone's like, you want to go golfing? I'll go, eh, I guess we'll go to topgolf. And it's just like I'm not obsessed with it. I'm not psychotically passionate about it. I'm particularly obsessive. That's why I work 16 hour days. But with having, having a daughter, that's just infinitely more interesting than anything else I could think of right now. And you know, to be honest, like, we definitely wanted to have a kid sooner. We should have had a kid sooner. It is what it is. It happened, how it happened and I'm glad we have, we have the daughter we have and we're actually planning on having more kids. But I'm just sitting here thinking like of these women again, to go to the point I made before, at what point are you like the club is boring.

[D]

There is no return on investment in the way that they think. None. Results show that. History has shown that. It's like what we were saying in the car, which is, they manufacture problems thinking they need to solve these made up problems. Like the problem is, oh, women can have a career. When did that actually become a problem?

[E]

Exactly when the pharmaceutical companies decided to figure out that they could put half the country on birth control and SSRIs forever. So let's just pump this down.

[A]

I will add as a final thought too, there were corporations and people in government that thought, we can double the economic output by putting women in the workplace and compete in the Cold War. It's like, how do we, how do we beat the Soviets if women work? We're going to double our economic output. And here we are. But we're gonna go to your chats in the discord backstage. So my friends, all of you hanging out backstage right now, sending your questions because some of you have already inferred correctly that I wanted some chats to come in so that we jump to it. We'll have some already in the roster, which we do. So smash the like button, share the show. Thanks for hanging out for this episode of Tim cast IRL. And if you want to get in the IRL backstage prerecord, go to timcast.com click join us because we can't do this without you. If you believe the work we do is important and you want to see us continue, you must go to timcast.com and click join us. You get in that discord community, you'll make friends. Some people have actually gotten married couple like five couples now. So I'm like people. Yeah, that's pretty wild. Yeah, yeah, it's community, man. So it's all about.

[C]

You're in flow state a lot too. When people are in flow state, they fall in love. That is, I've noticed that over the.

[A]

Years you, you find like minded people and you will be surprised what you find. I don't want to, I don't want to tell you that you're going to find love by joining the DMCAST discord. But some people did. The more important thing is community is our strength. And if you agree with our views, if you think they're right, we want those ideas to grow and spread as we face the harshest times we have have in a generation or in our generation. So join us, support the work we do. And now we're gonna grab your questions. Let's see, we got here in the Old IRL Discord chat. I went too far back, I think. What do we have? Here we go. Kevin Adele says, can these people on the right claiming the beeper joke was a threat against Megan be trusted on anything? If they believe the joke was funny against Media Son, I say no. They're just like the left and only support free speech when they agree with it. I agree it's hypocritical. When I saw the beeper joke about Megyn Kelly, I saw them Babylon B. When they posted it, I went. I was more surprised they were going after Megyn Kelly in this way because I was like, I don't recall Megyn Kelly actually doing anything to warrant being called a Hamas supporter. Which is wild.

[B]

The fact that there's so much, so many people on the right that are going after other people on the right, it's frustrating because again, there are real, tangible problems that the United States is facing. And to spend your time just going after other people that have a what at the end of the day is a minor disagreement, a small disagreement. To me, it's counterproductive and you're only helping the left.

[D]

And you know what else is worse is when they attempt to go after these people but won't say their name. Like, if you're going to talk about Candace Owens, just say her name. Just say what it is.

[A]

Go say. So somebody commented in Discord, like earlier in the show, they said, Tim is attacking a lot of people this week. And I'm. And my response to that is just, when I criticize leftists, I'm not attacking people. The issue right now is my criticisms are aimed at people who are of the right, which I typically don't do, because I'll give them the benefit of the doubt because I think that we're aligned. Mostly it's not because I think they're always right. The left I don't trust and get no benefit of the doubt. So when the left comes out and acts a fool, I'll say they're acting a fool. When Candace does something, I'll be like, well, I don't know. I don't know. I'm be careful here. But now we're at the point where it's just overt and obvious and all worthy of. Of critique and criticism. And I'll also stress too, because people were mad that I said Nick Fuentes was frail and effeminate. That's not me attacking his positions. It's me pointing out that Nick and I don't mean this derisively to insult him. He is a small, thin, frail man. Like, he's not. Well, small is maybe a little bit more extreme. What is he like? He's like five seven, five eight. But he's, he's fairly thin. My point is a lot of young guys, if they emulate him, they're not getting a fitness routine elements or some kind of exercise. And people got. People were like, wow, Tim's attacking Nick. And I'm like, well, offering a light critique for saying he should, he should promote fitness along with what he's promoting, I guess. I don't know. But that's. That, that's something you should do a yoga video.

[B]

No, he should not.

[A]

Like the same stretch. I'll say the same thing of Ian.

[C]

I'm not frail, though. I'm limber and tight.

[A]

How much do you weigh?

[C]

Slash 133 today, 5 11.

[B]

I'm 5 7. I weigh 180 pounds.

[C]

Yeah, but it's like my, my visceral fat level is a 2. It's extremely healthy on the inside.

[D]

And you're making me feel overweight.

[C]

Oh, well, I'm just like the low end of, of healthy weight.

[B]

You should come to the gym with me.

[C]

Yeah, I have a gym in my house.

[A]

I'd be down. We tried. We, we actually did this and Ian did, did put on some weight. We hired a personal trainer and had him.

[C]

I don't like carrying it. It's heavy.

[A]

It requires a lot of. I don't believe that for us.

[C]

What is your diet usually? Lentils, like soups, lean meats, sometimes cheese. I get this moon cheese. I buy like bags of dehydrated cheese. Those for my protein. Late night fats and stuff. Low sugar, coconut water.

[D]

So you only eat once a day or.

[C]

I prefer to eat once a day. Big meals once a day.

[A]

I eat once a day.

[C]

Intermittent fasting.

[A]

And I'm 5 10, 185.

[C]

I cut gluten out. I barely do any wheat. And that is a huge reduction in like just excessive gunk in my system.

[A]

I agree. I cut that out. I was causing me inflammatory issues.

[C]

But I like feeling hungry. I enjoy the feeling of the internal struggle, the working out my insides by, you know, eating all the garbage.

[D]

You would be successful in the military.

[C]

Thank you, sir.

[A]

All right, Slick says nobody's really talking about what's been done to Alex Jones. What are your thoughts on everything from the bogus default judgment and the end of infowars? When will the right step in to stop this? Or are they just going to let it happen and still not use the same tactic on the corporate media that sent us to war for lies and sparked violence in the Summer of Love. So I know that was me that made the attack comment. And you missed the part where the commies aren't people. Oh, okay. Important commies aren't people. I actually talked about this. The Supreme Court rejected Alex Jones's appeal. And I said the Supreme Court are cowards there. This is why I've been saying I, I forgive me if it's black pilled. It's like, like save yourselves. Like again, the H1B visa thing from Trump, the Supreme Court refusing to take up the gay marriage issue or the Alex Jones issue. No one is coming to save you. The left is going to keep ramming things forward because there's nothing but cowards. Vote Republican means vote for cowards to stand there crying and cowering even when they're in power. Vote for Democrats or not, they're going to smash things anyway. You know what?

[C]

Sorry, you got to do it yourself. Don't throw your vote away. And what I mean by that is don't just vote and walk away from it. You got to do it yourself. Put people in power that are the least worst choices, but you gotta do it yourself.

[E]

You have to be willing to play by the rules the other teams want to play at. Like if the other team breaks the rules and you don't, you're not noble, you're a sucker. Okay, okay. Supreme Court says we're not gonna test this. Then Rachel Maddow, everybody that said every lie about everything in the media for the last 10 years, sue them under the same precedent. Use the precedent to go after everybody.

[D]

The problem is you have a sitting member of Congress who essentially called the President a pedophile. She will not be held liable for that.

[A]

Well, there's the, what you call it, the debate and what is it? Debate and clause or whatever.

[B]

The floor of Congress, they can't be.

[E]

Well, we do have a law. It's a McCarthy era law. Dan Holloway talked to me about it yesterday and it is a law.

[B]

It's great.

[E]

It's the commun. What is it?

[B]

Communist Control Act.

[E]

It's still a law.

[A]

Now there are parts. It's a law.

[B]

There are parts of it that the Supreme Court has struck down. But it's only parts of it. It's not the full law. And, and to that point, we should be doing tests about who we allow in the United States. If you have an ideology that is, that is abhorrent to our fundamental principles like communism, if you believe in, if you don't believe in property rights and stuff, you should not be allowed to become an American. That should be disqualifying. You do not get to come to the United States and become a citizen for the purpose of subverting our system. And that should be obvious to everyone.

[E]

Then you definitely don't get to run for office.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Minnesota 100%.

[D]

So you guys are in support of having a king then?

[B]

I don't care what you call.

[E]

You don't.

[B]

I'm, I'm listening.

[E]

I don't think my personal politics would.

[B]

Be very I, I, I, I have, I have fairly radical views. I don't think that we, I, I'm against universal enfranchisement. I think that you should have some kind of stake in our society if you're going to vote. I think that specifically for federal elections there should be, there should be some kind of test or some kind of criteria that you able to vote in the, in a.

[E]

Prefer the term emperor or Augustus and voter ID please.

[B]

Well, absolutely. 100 but I think that if you're, if you're dealing with state level, I think that, that then you can make a more compelling argument about universal enfranchisement on a state level. But when it comes to federal level, the, the powers that the federal government has are supposed to be very limited. They're expressly articulated in the Constitution. So we shouldn't have everybody voting to have a unit a total democracy when it comes to federal federal law. You want to have that for states, that's okay, but not when it comes to federal law. There should be stringent rules and there should be stringent criteria that, that you have to meet if you're going to vote for, for federal.

[A]

I think in order to, here's simple. If you want to, if you're all elected office must be naturally born Americans. There you go.

[B]

Yeah, I don't disagree with that. Anything that, anything that lowers the number of, of uninformed voters in my opinion is great. And people that will say, people will sit there and say well what about you? Would you, if you would you give up your right to vote? I would give up my right to vote in a heartbeat if I knew that the Constitution was going to protect my rights and that I knew that there weren't going to be people that were going to be allowed to vote the federal government to give them benefits.

[A]

All right, we got, I make part says to Phil's point, is it possible that Trump is checking the temperature with H1B to see what? The reaction from the bases. I don't. I don't think so. I think there's a reality that Trump knows economically, we need more workers to keep things going.

[D]

He saw what happened last year with Vivek Ramaswamy, so I'm sure he's definitely aware.

[E]

I love the cope. Every time Trump does something, it's always. It's really this. The first move on the chessboard to see how there's a reaction. No, the dude spoke and Besson was like, no, don't say it like that. Say we got. Got 6 million jobs, only 600,000Americans. Why would you say it like that?

[B]

Donald Trump is the king of throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks.

[E]

Yeah, he just. He needs attention. He's addicted to attention. So if he's not saying anything spicy, he's not getting the headlines. He likes it.

[A]

Here's, here's, here's a good combo. We have Braxton 3300 and Joe Clay. Braxton says, how do you think we reconcile the youth with the boomers, considering the youth were left with nothing and the boomers are dying with everything? Joe Clay says, how can anyone on the right claim that student loan forgiveness is a good idea? It's ridiculous. This is a great combo question because my, my proposal for student loan forgiveness is not to forgive the principal, but the interest. So what you would say is, if you took out 50k as of a certain point of time, like, first we're going to stop the loan system. Colleges should not be subsidized by the loan system. Then for all these people who are saddled with debt, it makes no sense that you took out a $50,000 loan, paid back $200,000 15 years later, and still owe $50,000. So what we do is we say you got to pay back what you were given, interest is forgiven, and if you've already paid more in interest than your principal, then we're writing off the rest of your debt because you've overpaid. This is a split the baby kind of thing. We have to recognize that our country, under the liberal economic order, lied to young people and told them to take out massive debt and become indentured servants. And they are pissed. If we don't release that pressure, you are going to get communist revolution. The young people are basically saying, you lied to me. I can't pay this back and I can't find a job, so I'm going to vote in communist to burn the whole thing down. Or we can say, how about this? We're Going to forgive the interest, meaning kids fresh out of College who owe 50 grand, they still got to pay back 50 grand. But if you're 35 and you've already paid back 60 of the 50, we wiped that 50 off and applied the 10,000 to your taxes. So you've repaid every penny that was given to you. But now you have an opportunity to start saving and build some wealth, start a family, whatever it is you need to do. I don't think we should say, here's free money, go spend it. Oh, now, forget about it. You never got to pay it back because that is, it's going to gut a large portion of the economy. But I will stress again, so for the first question of reconciling with boomers who have everything to the young people, basically letting these younger people know, older Gen Z, we get it, you need an opportunity and the debt's holding you back and the degree isn't helping you. So we are going to say, you paid for your degree, you get it, here's the interest off, have some relief, otherwise it's tits up.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And I would actually add on to that and say if we really want to forgive their loans, then the price that they should pay is getting into a trade, engineering, lawyer, some type of specialized skill. And in the, in the end, your loan gets forgiven. But we know you're getting trained on something that is going to further this economy.

[E]

That's the GI Bill argument, right? Like, okay, we can get rid of your student loans. You don't serve in the military and that's fine. But there, there's, there's a predatory aspect to this that gets like, it really is a consumer protection issue. And it's not just kids. Like, so I'm working on a project right now. There's a real project that we're working on. You try to get a loan, $100,000 for a movie, they won't give you a loan as an adult with credit score. Right. But if me and six other people, actors and crew members, we're going to apply to a community college, we're going to take out loans to go to community college. And the community college, we're going to have access to all the equipment we need, all of the sets, all of the sounds, and we're going to make a movie within a movie. But the real thing is a documentary about how basically we're defrauding the community college out of like, we're not going to go to class. We're literally just there to take our $2,000 loans and get the movie made inside of it. Because we can't get a loan to make the film, but we can get a loan to go to community college.

[A]

Yeah. So imagine.

[C]

Imagine this completely legal.

[A]

Here's a fun one. Imagine being 18 and going to a bank and saying, I would like 40,000. A $40,000 loan to buy silver in four years. I will pay you back. They're going to say, absolutely not. Then if you go, I want a loan, $40,000, and hopefully I'll get a job to pay you back with. They go, sounds good to us.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

They're giving you 40 grand, and there's literally no collateral, no guarantee, and you can't declare bankruptcy. It's just like. It makes no sense.

[D]

Just really quickly, that's where the president got it wrong, because he pushed back on universities going out of business. No, I think we would happily support some universities going out of business.

[A]

Oh, I know.

[D]

Because they have made their money and some.

[A]

All right, Moon man says with all the talk about families trying to foster a resurgence of babies, would y' all be willing to make a dating channel? Could be. Could be as simple as just a place to more specifically ask for advice.

[C]

Yeah, I'll be the main guy. I need to find a woman. So, yeah, I'll be the guy, bring women in. I'll talk to him.

[E]

Sounds like the Discord. I think it's already there.

[A]

It is. That's. That's what he's asking for in the Discord, to have a channel just for dating advice and stuff. But.

[E]

But all jokes aside, part of, like, living in Miami now, man, like, the ideological part of it is a hard thing. You fall in love with somebody or you fall in lust with them from the way that they look. But then as you get to know each other, having somebody that is already ideologically aligned with you is going to remove a massive hurdle. I mean, that's why so many people went to church for so long, and they had that community. If nothing else we have. Our values are the same. Based in faith. Right. So having the ideologically aligned dating is. I mean, J dates very popular for a reason. It's not. It's not the worst idea in the world.

[A]

Tim cast date. All right, let's see what we got here. Discord likes to hide junk. John, okay, says. Just want to say Nick Fredis and Dave Tate are leaders of men. Those that follow Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate are little boys. The day I see Andrew squat 600 pounds, two weeks after his hip replacement, walking under the bar with a cane. I will give him respect. You know what the thing is, though? Nick Freitas is great. And there was a really great moment on the show where he said that his. His wife had said something to his daughter about being like, hey, I forgot what he said. But she was, like, scolded. And then his daughter's walking through the hallway and making a face, like, insulting her mom, and she didn't realize that he was there, and he stopped her and was like, don't you talk about my wife that way. And I told my wife that, and she smiled, and she's like, yes, you have to be like that. And I'm like, right, that's what.

[C]

What.

[A]

That's what you should. You want to teach responsibility. And, like, I get that. His daughter wasn't really doing. She was venting to herself. But dad caught you. Don't act untoward. So I agree. The thing is, people feel there's a cathartic release from Fuentes and Andrew Tate in their rage, in their anger, and in their. In their aggression. It makes people feel like there's. It's. It's a sense of justice. Something wrongs them, something is bad for them. And these guys are aggressive about it, and it makes you feel like it's cathartic.

[C]

Testosterone feels good.

[E]

Well, they're just not count adrenaline. For so long, everybody walked around eggshells, especially in the comedy community, about what you can say, what you can't say. So even if I disagree with everything, the fact they say it, you're like, well, guys, he's got some stones. Good for him on that. At least it's not cowardly.

[D]

Yeah, I would say they're a byproduct of feminism, meaning it's the side effect. You're too extreme with what you want women to be or do. And as a result, here comes Andrew Tate. Right. So it's a. It's a polar extreme.

[A]

Jeffrey C. Asks, how do we respect the free speech of the popular conservatives like Candace, but at the same time get them to stop being a distraction from the America we are trying to create? First you stop. You don't get at it. No, no.

[C]

A big part of it.

[A]

You don't. The reality is Democrats have realized this a long time ago. Regular people want to chase after the shiny object, and that's why they don't know what's going on. That's why they think Trump called Nazis fine people. And we are trying desperately to educate those people and capture their attention, which is difficult. If Candace wants to do A true crime drama, Blake livey celebrity Gossip and Bridget McCrone's A Man or whatever. She's allowed to do it the same as Rosie o' Donnell is allowed to say whatever nonsense she wants. It's just fair to say that Candace is not a part of the Coalition to Make America Better to Improve the Country. She's, I view her largely the same as like caller daddy. And with all due respect, to call her daddy being a successful show that sold for $100 million or whatever. And Candace, she's, she's bragging about how she's got the number one podcast now in the country and all that. It's like, absolutely. This generalist stuff is going to always get a bigger swath of the, of the audience share.

[C]

I found if you do the shiny object metaphor is great. You become an even shinier object that maybe her audience will also watch yours. But what you really want is cand to watch your stuff and then to appreciate your stuff. And then that's how, you know, you help your friends evolve. And then maybe her work will. I mean, I think Candace, personally, I find her to be like, she's an actor that because the politics was so crazy over the last 15 years, she just got into politics and she's very, uses her charisma, but she loves entertaining people. And like, you know, Candace in a movie would be hilarious. So if you want to do something.

[D]

Candy.

[C]

Yeah, Candace.

[D]

Yeah. I think being a conservative commentator today is difficult because you're dealing with an audience that isn't just going to listen to what you say. You gotta explain yourself. However, when you go to the left, especially on YouTube, there's a podcast on YouTube that's been number one or number two, depending on what day you look. It's all about Trump this and Trump that and Trump's sick and Trump just had a seizure and their audience literally wants to believe that stuff. It's all clickbait.

[A]

Oh, bro. Listen, y', all, y' all just need to understand, you can give me any subject and I can talk for 27 years on it. If I wanted to be unscrupulous and make a bunch of money, I could make the best anti Trump show through pure sophistry. Like when I can argue, I could argue anything. And there's a difference between debate and sophistry, logic and sophistry. So what we try to do on this show is I will tell you the truth based on what I know. And sometimes I'm wrong. What do the liberals do? They omit information intentionally. To win an argument. Now, if I was going to go the liberal route, oh man, I, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be making 10 times as much money. Democrats would be hiring me as a consultant, unscrupulous to the end. Unfortunately, I have scruples and I won't do it. It's unfortunate, but I sent this conversation earlier with some people. The evil people have an advantage. They are willing to do things we are not willing to do. It's being good is life on hard mode.

[D]

And if you even attempt to play their games or do what these liberal podcasters do, you get called out every single time by your own audience. Yeah, like, hey, don't click bait me like that. Don't, no, no, no, don't, don't do.

[A]

That on the right.

[D]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So we can't even get away with that even if we wanted to. So we would, we would literally have to be anti Trump if I'm saying, based on your premise, if you want to make more money, unfortunately.

[A]

All right, we got Holdian. Is that you say it. I got in front of Seamus and Philly the night, but I wanted to get in front of Tim. What are your thoughts on a federal law requiring proof of citizenship to buy or rent property? With 80% of all leaves currently being self deportations, I feel like this would bump the rookie numbers up, reduce demand, increase supply and also prevent immigration issues and national security issues. PRC buying land in the future, not proof of citizenship, but legal status. So if you're a green card holder, tourist visas should not be allowed to rent property or actually to be fair, they should not be allowed to extend to enter into long term leases. So a tourist visa gives you I think 90 days. Then there's, there's work visas and temporary like a two year residency. There's, there's like a special talent visas and stuff like that. This, those are all lawful entrant visas for which you should be able to enter into rental agreements and it should be two tiered. If some, if, if you are an illegal. If you're an immigrant here and you fraudulently enter into a lease or purchase agreement you should go to, you should get criminally charged, deported and barred from the country. If you are a land owner or, and you sell or lease knowingly to an illegal entrant, then you should be criminally charged commensurate with the scale. So if you rented an apartment to a legal immigrant, misdemeanor charge, fine. If you sell land of certain size, misdemeanor charge. Land is forfeited, whatever. Something like that could happen. And I'm sure the government would love to do that. But if you do like a very large deal, like a, like a five, like, like a, you know, something not like a bungalow, but maybe like a, a five story large million dollar house or whatever, then you're entering felony territory for fraud and money laundering kind of stuff. But I think we should totally do that.

[C]

And maybe if these, if someone's illegally here and they commit another crime in us, that the person who's facilitating their stay could also be charged as an accomplice to the crime that would disincentivize these people from renting to illegal immigrants.

[A]

Indeed. All right, my friends, that about does it for tonight. Smash the like button, of course. Share the show with everyone you know. Thank you for joining our Discord server. For everybody watching the IRL backstage, you guys rock. And if you didn't, you should, because we're trying this experiment. One of the challenges on Fridays is that it's a slow news day because everybody's checking out and news typically does not break unless it's a weird story to try to bury. And so Fridays often end up going a bit philosophical. And so I said let's just record them early to create an opportunity for an extended show at the Discord, where it's a three hour show if you're in the backstage area. And then this allows us to work on other projects. Take Fridays, Relax. It's just, I think it's better for the community and it's been working out pretty well. So if you want to support the work that we do and see us expand, join our [e-mail], click join us. You can follow me on X and Instagram. Timcast. Dvor, do you want to shout anything out?

[D]

Yeah. I'm very blessed. Thank you for having me here. I hope everybody that was listening continue to critically think for yourself. Yes, it sounds like a lot of doom and gloom, but you need to continue to stay focused on the right things. And you guys can follow me at Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube and Rumble Devory Darkens.

[A]

Right on.

[E]

Yeah. This was a great conversation. Thank you for having me, guys. It's been great hanging with you and you can check me out. Gerard Michaels. I'm at the Mothership Comedy Mothership three times a month and at Sadman Comedy Cafe in, in, in Boca Raton coming up. I got weekend in Calgary at the Comedy Cave coming up if you got any Canadian fans. And then a lot of other Stuff. Check out at Gerard versus Evil. And if you need some brain rot after this, this heavy conversation, I just did an episode with Chuck Liddell where we watch street fights and people getting punched in the face so you guys can go get some.

[A]

You know you have a new nickname from coming on the show.

[E]

What's that?

[A]

Jackhammer.

[E]

Oh, that's right. Yes.

[C]

Talk about the jackhammer.

[E]

Stock baby.

[C]

Gerard Michaels in the house.

[E]

Yeah, I love that. Jackhammer.

[C]

Jackhammer. Dude, this thing's gonna pulse a trillion times a second. Okay, I can go real deep on that. Hey, Eddie and Crossland.

[D]

I echo these.

[C]

The.

[A]

Your.

[C]

Your words, Tim. Fridays are fun.

[A]

They are.

[C]

They're fun days. Anyway, today was. You play music, we talk about families. Maybe one day the kids will be coming in here and doing the show with us.

[A]

Who knows? Let me just stress that for those who didn't get to see the backstage pre production portion of the show, it's a full hour. Ian and I were jamming and Ian played the freshman. Oh yeah, by the Verve. I played some Radiohead.

[C]

It was wonderful.

[A]

Some originals. And we're like pulling the cameras up. They're loading graphics and you get to hang out for that at the Timcast Discord. So come join us.

[C]

See you later.

[B]

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[A]

We will see you throughout the weekend with various clips. Then we're back on Monday. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you all then.