Trump DOJ Indicts James Comey, The ARRESTS Have BEGUN w/ Joseph Moulton

Summary

Podcast Summary: Timcast IRL – "Trump DOJ Indicts James Comey, The ARRESTS Have BEGUN w/ Joseph Moulton"

Date: September 26, 2025
Host: Tim Pool (Timcast Media)
Guests: Joseph Moulton (Flagforce UK), Tate Brown, Raymond G. Stanley Jr., Phil Labonte

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

Main Theme:
This episode examines the seismic political implications of the Trump Department of Justice indicting former FBI Director James Comey on charges of obstruction and lying to Congress, marking a major escalation in political “lawfare.” The panel unpacks the broader context—ongoing violence, talk of political civil war, and the increasing normalization of political targeting and terror—and fiercely debates state and federal reactions, the implications for the rule of law, and the soul of American civic life.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Comey’s Indictment: Politics of Lawfare

Timestamps: 06:13 – 12:01

• Former FBI Director James Comey was indicted on counts of making false statements and obstruction just days before the statute of limitations expired.
  • Trump publicly demanded the DOJ act, removing an uncooperative U.S. Attorney to appoint a willing prosecutor.
• Tim Pool frames this as a direct escalation after years of Democrats pursuing dubious charges against Trump and his allies.
• The panel debates the necessity and consequences of such prosecutions, with an emerging consensus that a precedent of weaponized prosecutions threatens future governance.
• Quote (Tim Pool, 09:58):
  “If we do not see justice on the highest level of these people, the street level stuff is immaterial. This is the most important thing.”

2. The Political Stakes: Retaliation and Escalation

Timestamps: 12:01 – 20:54

• Discussion of potential indictments against Letitia James, Adam Schiff, and others.
• Debate over whether targeting figureheads actually collapses adversarial infrastructure or simply invites new actors.
• Questions on whether Trump’s “fear factor” (unpredictability, willingness to escalate) is a deterrent or merely more dangerous polarization.
• Quote (Tim Pool, 18:35):
  “Trump is a lunatic. Trump is the guy that people actually think he might press the button... When Trump says it, you pause for a second.”

3. Ground Violence, Civil War Rhetoric, and State Defiance

Timestamps: 20:55 – 44:51

• The panel catalogues escalating leftist violence: ICE facility attacks, assassination attempts, growing left-wing rhetoric foreshadowing civil war.
• The hosts note mainstream media (e.g., The Daily Beast, The Hill) are now openly discussing the possibility of civil conflict.
• Tension between street-level violence (random acts, loosely organized) versus top-down, institutionally-backed terror.
• Reference to blue states' active defiance of federal law—mask bans for law enforcement in California, sanctuary cities—is interpreted as “soft secession” or “insurrection.”
• Quote (Joseph Moulton, 31:31):
  “I think that people don’t realize, particularly on the right, they don’t realize how aggressive and vicious these people really are... the media institutions are encouraging it, right?”

4. Law Enforcement, Masks, and Motives

Timestamps: 27:06 – 44:51

• Fierce debate about whether federal law enforcement should be allowed to mask their identities.
• Tim argues that only a society in civil war requires masked cops and that “brave men” should proudly do their job unmasked.
• Others counter with practical concerns: cartel retribution, genuine threats from radical groups and doxxing, the need to recruit and maintain personnel who won’t risk their families’ lives.
• Comparison to Antifa and Black Bloc tactics—masks for anonymity, lack of accountability.
• Quote (Tim Pool, 35:35):
  “You are at war when that is the reality... If you are saying there are insurgent terrorists all across this country that will kill you and your family, you are at war.”

5. Are We In a Civil War? Semantics and Historical Context

Timestamps: 68:05 – 78:23

• Panel attempts to define the situation: “insurrection,” “civil unrest,” “civil war.”
• Tim and guests dissect historical civil wars (American, Spanish) to show how diffuse, patchwork, and gradual escalation tends to be.
• Agreement that current polarization and the normalization of “insurgency” tactics (state defiance, attacks on officers, political assassination) bear resemblance to “Bleeding Kansas” and pre-war escalation.
• Quote (Phil Labonte, 78:23): “It is reasonable to say... looking back, they’ll say that now was the beginning of it, that the assassinations, attacks on law enforcement, were actually the first shots.”

6. Counting the Cost: Public Figures, Safety, and Value

Timestamps: 136:25 – 142:00

• Tim opens up about the very real, constant threat he and other political public figures face—from doxxing, death threats, swattings, to needing armored convoys and security.
• Panel reflects on the sacrifices entailed in public action, the need for “men of action” versus the reality of risk aversion, especially for those with families.
• Discussion on the normalization of violence, the impossible security costs, and the danger of letting adversaries drive dissent underground or anonymous.
• Quote (Tim Pool, 137:31): “Now I got a wife and a child, and there’s gonna be more coming soon... maybe we quit, shut it all down. That way we can have a family and live a normal life.”

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• On Comey’s Charges:
  “If Comey, Clinton and their ilk are able to gain power again, I have zero concern whatsoever for antifa. Phil, you’ll be in a gulag.” —Tim Pool, (09:58)

• On State Conflict:
  “California, Oregon and Washington... have let [far-leftists] do it for now. Three months... It’s not to the point where Gavin Newsom says, go and arrest those federal agents... But Gavin Newsom just ordered federal agents to take their masks off.” —Tim Pool, (73:02)

• On Doxxing & Targeting:
  “There's a reason why they killed Charlie Kirk and not an individual ICE agent. There’s tons of federal law enforcement guys that aren’t wearing masks.” —Tim Pool, (55:50)

• On Violence Lists:
  “We need to get a comprehensive list of all of the terror attacks for this year so we can have this... database to actually start tracking this because this year has been insane.” —Tim Pool, (96:28)

• On Choosing to Fight: “I ask for a few good men to stand up, wave the flag and say, I will die for my country. And then I'm told, no, Tim, no, Tim, you're wrong. Other people shouldn't have to do that. No one should take a risk.” —Tim Pool, (125:00)

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TIMESTAMPS OF KEY SEGMENTS

• 05:37 – Guest intros, context-setting, tribute to Pastor Voddie Bacham
• 06:13–12:01 – Breakdown of the Comey indictment and its political context
• 13:31–21:11 – Arguing the real motivations and consequences of indictments, making examples out of political enemies
• 24:38–35:35 – Civil war rhetoric, attacks on law enforcement, local vs. federal power
• 44:31–52:07 – The human toll on public figures & law enforcement: security, threat, and lifestyle
• 68:05–78:23 – Historical analysis of civil conflict, when a “civil war” becomes reality
• 98:14–101:38 – Ongoing tally of terrorist attacks and political violence in 2025
• 137:31–139:56 – Tim on the personal and familial cost of public advocacy
• 141:15–142:03 – Guest wrap-ups and final thoughts

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CLOSING THOUGHTS

Tone & Takeaways:
A raw, often alarming episode that pulls no punches—both exposing the gravity of the situation (political prosecutions, normalization of street violence and assassination talk, institutional breakdown) and exploring the existential cost to those who speak out publicly. The hosts and guests oscillate between defiance, grim realism, and frustration over what it means for political actors—law enforcement and media personalities alike—to live under siege.

For Listeners Who Missed It:
This episode is essential listening for anyone concerned about the U.S.’s (and the West’s) deepening political divides, the practical consequences of political “lawfare,” the normalization of violence, and what “living in interesting times” really means. The panel’s arguments are unfiltered, passionate, and at times deeply personal—mirroring the moment’s volatility.

Transcript

[A]

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Check out the full [e-mail] the Trump DOJ has indicted James Comey for obstruction and lying to Congress. Oh boy, here we go. Now apparently there was some other attorney who wasn't going to do it for some reason said either the case wasn't strong enough, didn't want to. So Trump said get him out of there, get somebody else. And now it's it is getting done. They had only five days left until the statute of limitations was up. So it looks like Trump is getting just what he wants. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a massive escalation at the political level, Trump and his team and for other reasons. All of you better beg, hope and pray that the Republicans win the midterms and that J.D. vance wins in 2028 because they went after Trump. Trump of course was going to get back at those who violated the law. But if these people ever get near the seat of power again, the gloves are off. And I thought they already were off, but it is going to be nuts. We also have other escalation at the physical level. New information pertaining to the anti ICE leftist terrorist. He was planning this for a long time. He had been researching ICE tracker apps using them and apparently had searched for Charlie Kirk assassination videos and the inking on the cartridges may have been him copying what the Charlie Kirk alleged assassin was doing. So wow, Daily Beast is actually now writing about Trump warning of civil war. And that surprises me because here's the left coming out and basically saying it's coming. But to be honest, go to blue Sky. Just seriously go to Blue sky or Threads and read what these people are saying. And yeah, yeah, there, there is a serious escalation. Aside from all of that, I guess World War three again, I don't know how many times you need to say it, so it's probably not worth saying, but Russia has basically stated that NATO is at war with them and emergency meetings are happening. Russian jets violating US airspace. 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[B]

Hi, yeah, I'm Joseph, founder of Flagforce uk. I'm just joining Tim tonight. Discuss what's going on and also mention a little bit what's going on in the UK as well.

[A]

Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. We got Tate hanging out.

[C]

What's going on guys? Tate Brown here holding it down. Before I start, Pastor Voddie Bacham died about an hour ago. I know a lot of people in the audience will know who that is. Want to say rest in peace. He was very loved.

[A]

So yeah, sad to hear.

[D]

What's up, friends? It's Raymond G. Your favorite blue collar here at Tim Cast Media Group. I look forward to talking to Joseph and everyone else. Mr. Phil hello everybody.

[E]

My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal and all that remains. I'm an anti communist and counter revolutionary. Let's get into it.

[A]

Here's ABC News cuz you know we love them. Former FBI Director James Comey indicted days after Trump demanded his DOJ move now to prosecute enemies. Prosecutors earlier said they couldn't establish probable cause to charge Comey, which is a lie because we've got this post from Greg Price which is hilarious. On the left, James Comey telling Congress in September of 2020 that the Steele dossier wasn't used in the 2016 intelligence community assessment on the Russia hoax. Right. Tulsi Gabbard's release from July showing the Steele dossier was directly cited and that Obama intel officials overruled senior intel officials if officials who told them it was garbage. Now I believe he's being indicted on obstruction as well. Former FBI Director James Comey has been indicted on two of three counts sought by prosecutors, one count of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice. Just days after President Donald Trump issued a public demand for his DOJ to act now to bring prosecutions against Comey and other political foes. The charges followed Trump's ousting of U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Eric Siebert, who, according to sources that expressed doubts internally about bringing cases against Comey, as well as New York Attorney General Letitia James after Trump appointed him to lead the office. I would just like to point out where we are in this country. They went after Donald Trump on fake charges. Trump says, okay, if that's the standard, we go after them as well. It's remarkable to me that under the Biden administration and in New York, they said, well, these are highly dubious, but let's bring them anyway. And then under Trump, the attorneys are like, well, we can't really do it enough. The standard was set by the Democrats. Trump is saying, hey, look, you want to come after me citing mortgage fraud or civil fraud for loans because an officer made a mistake on some numbers. He's going to go after Letitia James when she claimed a property outside of New York was her primary residence, which gave her favorable loan terms. I think the same thing is true for Adam Schiff, but we'll see what happens there. And now you have James Comey. James Comey said they didn't use the Steele dossier. Tulsi Gabbard says we went through that. Here we go. Here's an IC report showing they did. What's the problem? What's the problem? Let me say this, though. I will say this of myself and pretty much anybody who's prominent in this space. Y' all better pray Trump doesn't lose this fight. Cuz we've already seen what they're willing to do to their media adversaries. We've seen what the left and the Democrats have been willing to do to run of the mill Trump supporters who bounced around on January6. I ain't talking about the rioters. I'm talking to the people who are milling about after the riot was over, who also got a year plus in jail or solitary going after James Comey. This is not a shot across the bow. The Democrats already ignited the flames and Trump is simply responding. So it is now on at the highest level of politics. Trump has told the deep State, you are going down at the street level. We are dealing with three terror attacks in three weeks. So you guys tell me what's happening in this country.

[E]

I mean, look, as far as the situation with Comey, it's good that they're indicting him. It's good that a grand jury decided that they had enough evidence to prosecute. It's good that they are, they've actually moved on this, didn't let the statue of limitations run out. But I, I see this online, like people tweeting at, like Cash Patel and people tweeting at Republican lawmakers saying, hey, make the leftists stop killing us. Like that's where we're at, right? So it's great that they put Comey in or that they're gonna, that they're gonna in or that Comey's indicted and they're gonna prosecute. That's all well and good, but we've actually gone past the need for that.

[A]

I, I, I, I, I, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta interject. If we do not see justice on the highest level of these people, the street level stuff is immaterial. This is the most important thing. Look, obviously street level law enforcement needs to stop far left terror and antifa, all that, because another thing, we got a lot of news. Trump has ordered his DOJ to go after all of these leftists and all the structures. Ground level's important. But if Comey, Clinton and their ilk are able to gain power again, I have zero concern whatsoever for antifa. Phil, you'll be in a gulag. Just make sure you share with me your sandwich at lunchtime.

[E]

It doesn't matter. The thing is, it doesn't matter if they put Comey away because this is, it doesn't matter if it's Comey or who the individuals are, because there are other people that will be pursuing those, those, those places in the administration. There's gonna be a Democrat that's gonna be running. There's gonna be people in the bureaucracy that will want to, or there will be people, the Democrat side that will fill the roles and they're gonna act the same.

[A]

You don't need to wipe out every single soldier on the enemy's battlefield if you shatter their center and the rest of them flee. If Trump can get these, if simply these indictments and these charges against Comey, Letitia, James, potentially Schiff, anybody else, if that breaks their ranks, those people you're describing are going to run for the hills. They'll find themselves. Oh, what's that? They've, they're already getting citizenship in foreign countries, Italy, I hear.

[E]

I mean, well, look, it would be great if they, if they fled the country, obviously. But I do think that, that on the, I think the ground level is the thing that's, that's more immediate, like the, the idea.

[A]

Well, you, but you can do both I don't. Why not?

[E]

I'm not. Well, again, I'm not saying, like I said, it's good that they got him. It's good that they're, that they've indicted him. And I want to see more. I'm not saying that it's not, you know, it shouldn' or whatever.

[A]

I'm saying you arrest these people and the ground stuff disappears.

[E]

I don't know that I agree with that.

[A]

I think so. They have. They'll lose all their funding and all their legal support right now with the infrastructures of power in place, these people might actually get off on the charges.

[E]

Well, I mean, the dude that, you know initially that just most recently shot up the ice facility, he took care of it himself. And that's something that, that actually happens fairly regularly. Like they'll go and it'll be suicide by cop or they'll, they'll commit suicide the themselves.

[F]

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[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's, there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

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[H]

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[F]

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[I]

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[F]

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[G]

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[F]

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[F]

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[I]

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[E]

You look at all the trans shooters, the that have gone to schools and stuff. There's not all of them, obviously, but a lot of them get taken care of on, you know, when they're carrying out the attack.

[A]

I, I think if, and again, this isn't Jimmy that it's Jimmy Kimmel's off the air. If the Democrats that waged lawfare against Trump are in prison and what remains are these squishy middle, middle of the road, soft Democrats who are like, I'm not going to support that stuff, you will stop this cultural movement on the ground level. Their infrastructure that pays them to, that gives them resources to be on the ground, that bails them out of jail will evaporate overnight. The way I look at it is you've got an infestation and all you're doing is chasing the bugs that you can see instead of going into the walls and finding the hive. So of course if we had a wasps nest in the building and they were flying around, we'd be swatting the wasps to get rid of them when we see them. But we'd also call an exterminator to go in the walls, figure out the nest is and get the nest torn out. This is substantially more important in my opinion. Getting rid of the individual actors will stop the individual actor at the time. But how do you stop them from reproducing and it's moves like this?

[C]

I totally. Well, I mean this is the, probably the biggest test, one of the biggest tests of the DOJ so far. Because I mean this was a buzzer beater, right? Like the statute of limitations September 30th. That's when Comey last testified, September 30th, 2020. And so like to prove that he didn't have any knowledge of the statement to prove, like, perjury in this case, it's a really high bar. That's why, that's why this is a buzzer beater in this case is because they needed to build this case to the best of their abilities. And so this is like, because these things matter. These things are like, Tim is saying, you're cutting the head of the snake.

[A]

That's like, I think the issue is that if Trump got in on day one and said, go arrest Comey, he'd be like, I ain't doing it. And that's literally what we saw. They're gonna be like, this is crazy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're asking me to go to war with the deep state right now. And you know, I talked to Seb Gorka a couple months ago and I asked him, has the deep state lost? Have we won? He says, no, the deep state is still very much there and we are, we are battling with them. So right now with this move against Comey, you know, powerful, prominent, uniparty elite establishment, international elements are saying, Trump wants war, he'll get war. I'm talking about lawfare, legal actions. If Trump can just go now. And it's fascinating because what did we hear? Was it gonna be end of summer, we were gonna start seeing these arrests. I think you can send them packing. You know, now there's rumors that he might, he's, he's looking into criminal activity of the Soros, his foundations, open society and things like that. And they're gonna get it. They're gonna get it.

[B]

Is that not really where they need to be targeting, though, these funding bases? There's always gonna be another James Comey who's gonna step into the role. That lobby in that media empire is so big, there's so much power that comes along into it. I'm sure it's not going to be super difficult to let someone also kind of, they can cultivate another individual.

[A]

Like I would. I think that I'd say no.

[B]

Those financial bases and that sort of media base is really what he probably needs to hit to kind of provide that sort of long term longevity that's going to allow them to win, you know, in the by elections, but also when it gets to 2028 as well.

[A]

My argument to your question, wouldn't that just be another comedy? The answer is no.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

Yeah. If Trump says, go to war with me and I'll destroy your life and you'll regret it, people are going to say, I ain't going to War with Trump. And that's what I'm talking about. They tried to play that game, but the problem is Democrats have always been fairly weak. And let me clarify or qualify that statement. They're willing to go insane. They are willing to send people on the ground. But as people, they're. They're. The only fear generated by the Democratic Party is the. Is the system itself, which they inherit, not which they've built. Trump's a lunatic. Trump is the guy that people actually think he might press the button. You know, he had that famous phone call where he told Putin and Xi. He told. He told Xi, if you invade Taiwan and Putin, if you invade. What did he say? Kiev, Ukraine, I'm going to nuke you. And he was like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe 5%. And everyone's kind of like, you know, when Trump says it, you pause for a second because what Obama says it, no one actually believes it.

[B]

Is that not just that sort of Nixonite mad dog sort of mentality, that Nixon's crazy, he's unpredictable. And like, obviously they went after Nixon again with, with the lawfare type thing.

[A]

I don't think. I don't think Nin's got anything on Trump.

[B]

No.

[A]

Trump put out a public statement saying, pam, go arrest my enemies now. And so what I think he's hoping for, that was a shot across the bow. I think he's hoping the next in line for a position like Comey, which wouldn't even come unless they win in 2028, is saying, like, dude, best be a fisherman, then meddle in the politics of man. That's what Trump is hoping for right now. There's no guarantees. It happened. That's why I'm saying if Trump loses, it's war. Trump needs to make sure he puts the fear of God in these people, I should say, of the federal law enforcement apparatus, and makes them regret it. They did it to him and they lost. And now I say lock him up.

[D]

Trump's getting old, though. I mean, talking about going to warfare with Trump, he's going to be. No offense to Trump, but he's getting older in age. So if they go after him, say he. He does retaliation against Comey good. And Ms. Tisha James, that's cool. They can go. They. But when he gets out of office, who are they going to fight? Who's going to get in Trump's place to fight against them if they go after you? Really Think so?

[A]

Yeah. Vance is going on X calling people dip itch. I'm not going to swear.

[D]

Right.

[A]

You know, but I saw that and I said, that's what I voted for.

[E]

Is it your opinion that there is no one?

[D]

No, I'd not. Well, Vance would be my only guess as of right now, but I don't think. I think there's any Trump out there today.

[A]

The Trump side has an amazing bench and the Democrats have none.

[C]

Yeah, well, also that's why this is important, cuz you have to make an example out of Comey. Like Tim was saying, for any future FBI director, make an example out of Letitia James. Like this lawfare crap is not gonna slide. So whoever that is, it doesn't really matter. Whoever it is that replaces Trump, Trump's giving that person breathing room now. They're not gonna have the boot on their neck of whatever. You know, God forbid a Democrat administration comes back, they appoint all these chowderheads. He can give us a little breathing room. If he sets the example here and says if, if.

[A]

You know, I feel bad for you, Tate, because, like, if a. If a new Democrat administration gets In, I'll be 42, 43. I had a good life, went on adventures. How old do you take? 20, 24.

[D]

24.

[A]

Man, being in a gulag at 20, 26, 27. All the best years taken away.

[D]

But you're right, it gives other people room down the road.

[A]

If look at.

[D]

Gets, gets, you're going to say about.

[A]

Say, look at Phil rocking out rockstar stage platinum records, and then he doesn't got to worry about the. Worry about the gulag till he's aoc.

[D]

He'll be rocking with the rocks.

[C]

AOC puts me in the quirked up white boy camp. It's going to be terrible. Oh, I'm not looking forward to it.

[E]

You're going to be in AOC's harem. Oh, she likes those white. Redheaded white.

[C]

Listen, there's places to be.

[E]

She does like the redheaded white boys.

[A]

You got to wear.

[D]

You got to wear sandals too, you.

[C]

Know, I'm not going to disavow, but yeah, that's good.

[A]

You're right.

[D]

If he does. If it does get through when he prosecutes these people, that gives people down the road a leeway, an open path to go and say, okay, we're going to prosecute you. You wanted to go against us.

[A]

Here we go. From the Daily Beast. Do I have to say it or does somebody else? Trump's sinister warning of civil war after ice shooting. Super excited Democrats said the President's comments were sick and deranged. Oh, boy. President Donald Trump has warned Democrats that bad things will happen to them if right wing people decide to retaliate amid growing tensions over this week's deadly shooting at a Texas immigration facility. While investigations into the shooting are still ongoing, the President has made it clear that he believes the radical left is solely responsible for Wednesday's tragedy. I mean, they literally did a press conference and they were like, yep, he was a leftist and he hated Trump and he said he wanted to strike fear and terror into the hearts of ICE agents so they never know if there's a sniper waiting on the rooftop for him. No law enforcement officers were hurt in the incident, but authorities say the shooting was politically motivated, targeting ICE agents who are central to Trump's deportation strategy. Asked in the Oval Office on Thursday who was to blame, Trump said he did not doubt the radical left is causing the problem. He also name checked people such as Democrat Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, who's been critical of ICE's heavy handed tactics. But despite calls to turn down the temperature in America, the President went even further, warning that things were only going to get worse. For one side quote. Bad things will happen when they play these games. I'll give you a little clue. The right is a lot tougher than the left. They better not get that get. They better not get them energized because it won't be good for the left. It'll be a point where other people won't take it anymore, and we don't want that. Now, the funny thing is, Trump didn't say civil war. Daily Beast did. I did not say civil war. Daily Beast did. The fascinating thing is, while for the past several years, people have largely criticized me for covering these articles and talking about this possibility, in the past two or three years, it has largely been the left warning that a civil war was coming. Not no joke, go to Blue sky or Reddit. And so we did a few segments on this show where I went to Reddit and looked up all the leftist subreddits where they were basically, they were all saying, literally, civil war is coming. And I think it's because they knew that Trump was going to win. More importantly, when Trump took a bullet and narrowly survived, everyone on ax, left and right, said we were millimeters away from a civil war. Now with the I'm gonna say it again. Three terror attacks in three weeks. I fully, I tweeted this last night, am I gonna go to bed and wake up to news of another terror attack? Like, honestly, it's been insane waking up. And I woke up in the Morning, and it's like ice facility shot up. It's just gonna keep getting worse because they won't stop. On CNN the other night, Bakari Sellers is basically once again pushing and pushing and pushing. And what I can't understand is why right now not a single Democrat on any of these shows just says, guys, everybody cool it. Stop. Conservatives do it all the time. Conservatives beg for it to stop. Certainly, don't get me wrong, there are liberals and Democrats who have called for it. However, there is. They tend to be lower in notoriety. I saw a former spokesperson for Biden or whatever on Fox say, yeah, we don't want this. And I'm like, but no one knows who that is. Just no following and no. And no influence.

[E]

No. There's not one prominent Democrat that has come out and said, stop attacking law enforcement. Let law enforcement do their job. Which is the most, most anodyne, basic thing that you want to hear out of a representative. If you're a Democrat and you actually want to see the temperature turned down and you want to. You don't want to see more violence, then you need to come out and say, stop inhibiting law enforcement from doing their job. Stop calling them the Gestapo. Stop telling them that they have to take their masks off. Because, you know, if they take their masks off, what's going to happen is their family is going to be doxed and their families will be attacked. And stop doing all of this stuff that you're doing. That is not saying law enforcement has a job and they are empowered to do it. Just stop doing that. And then I might believe that you actually want the violence to stop. And until then, I don't believe that you want the violence to stop.

[A]

I got it. I got to interject there. Masks should come off. And I do agree that, you know, they tone the rhetoric down, which can include the mask commentary, but I do think the feds should not wear masks. I think if you want to go out proudly in defense of this nation, you must accept those risks. And I do not appreciate, and I certainly understand, I am here every single night with my face on camera. I have been doxed. I have been swatted numerous times. I've been attacked. I understand my job doesn't require me to be on the ground in front of these people, but that's something they accept, even with masks on, that there is a physical danger that they are experiencing. I think we cannot play a game where we have federal law enforcement being like, the threat of terrorism is so serious, we have to hide ourselves. I think each and every one of these officers engaging in this should take their masks off and say, I am. Name, you know, John Smith, a proud American, legally and lawfully enforcing the law. You are terrorists and we won't stand for it. That's that. That's it. We should. I'm sorry, I'm not playing this. Federal law enforcement get to hide their faces because they're scared. We know. I get it and I feel for you because the left are violent psychopaths, but I don't think this is how we should be handling it. I think we should be. We have to be, I don't know, steadfast, vigilant and, I don't know, just. We have to face this challenge head on.

[D]

If we're better than them, real quick. If we think we're better than them, which we are, and we think we are, and we feel a certain way, we should take off.

[A]

You're right.

[D]

I like the idea of taking off the mask because we stand for a purpose and a point.

[A]

No, everyone's putting. Everyone's posting ones. You're all wrong. Like, I am not going to tolerate. I will not live in a country where cops walk around with no badge numbers and masks on covering their faces because they're scared. Because they're scared. You are. You are operating under color of law. You are entitled to do so. You are protected to do so. And fear of far left terror, I do not believe is a good enough reason that regular people should have to live with cops walking around in all black.

[B]

I mean, I think there has to be some sort of preemptive measures for them. And these are people with families and kids and livelihoods like, yes, they're representing the federal government, but I mean, of course they're scared. But there hasn't been a lot of preemptive measures to counter this far left terrorists. I mean, we're starting to see it now following the Charlie Kirk assassination. But these guys are going to want guarantees. Otherwise, I imagine a lot of them will just walk out their jobs if they're told they have to unmask. You know, they're living next to these people. We've seen from the backlash of.

[F]

Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to in case you missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

I'm Kristina Williams, host of the podcast in case you missed it with Kristina Williams. The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

[H]

It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge.

[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball. Plus exclusive interviews with the games brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to in case youe Missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart woman sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[B]

You know of Charlie Kirk's murder. How many people in blue sky were just hundreds of thousands of likes calling for deaths of, you know, Ben Shapiro, other politicians, political commentators? They want blood. And these people are living next door to them. You don't know who they are.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They're so emboldened that it's gonna be very difficult to persuade these guys. Yeah, let's de mask. And then next minute they're getting knocks at the door. Their family's Being harassed or they're actually potentially gonna.

[A]

I totally get it. You've got two options. Civil war or not. And if the argument is the threat of far left terror is so pervasive in our hometowns that our own police officers have to hide their identities, you're in a civil war. End of story. No arguments. Let me say it again to everyone out there that are telling me. You're telling me that I have to live in a country where any cop anywhere is going to not have a badge number visible. They're going to cover their faces so they can't be doxxed. I don't get to know who they are. You are at war when that is the reality. If that's what you're saying, and I got no problem if that's the reality, and I agree with you, then if you want to say civil war has begun, then I'll say, okay, mask up. Because I understand the argument law enforcement may quit. We'll have nobody willing to actually do the job because the far left is going to come for their families. Yeah, you're at war. If you are saying there are insurgent terrorists all across this country that will kill you and your family, you are at war. That's just it.

[B]

That's what I think it is. I think that people don't realize, particularly on the right, they don't realize how aggressive and vicious these people really are. I don't think that, you know, as a society that we've really stepped back and looked at it because the media institutions, they're kind of, they're, they're encouraging it, right? Like all this dehumanizing language, like calling them the Gestapo. I mean, that's what it's for, is to dehumanize them, to justify violence.

[A]

Let me ask, I'll ask you guys a quick question. Why does antifa wear masks?

[D]

So no one knows who they are.

[A]

And why don't they want them to know who they are?

[D]

Because they're doing bad things.

[A]

But what, what? But that's not an answer.

[D]

Oh, it was an answer. But what? They don't want to know because they're a group. They're like a blob of group of people.

[A]

Why does antifa wear masks?

[E]

They wear masks and. Well, the black bloc wear mask and stuff so that way they can blend back into the crowd.

[A]

And what does that accomplish for that.

[E]

Way they won't get arrested.

[A]

Well, they will get arrested.

[B]

They're anonymous.

[A]

A cop can grab anybody off the street and arrest them, regardless of what they're Wearing. The purpose of wearing a mask is so that you can't take pictures of their face, you can't share their information online, and if they get caught, you can't prosecute them because you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt. We are asking for that same thing with our law enforcement as well. And if you want to acknowledge that we are saying we want our law enforcement to be able to go out, you can't figure out who they are, you can't take pictures of their face. Anything that happens in the fray, we won't be able to pinpoint which officer necessarily, because just like Antifa, we have created a large group of individuals that are wearing the exact same clothes and you can't see their face. This means that if one of these guys in, in a, in a conflict with the far left cracks a skull or whatever, the. They can't do anything legally about it. If that's the argument you're gonna make. We are in a civil war, period.

[C]

Well, the big thing with ICE that we're all missing here is that the reason they have to mask primarily is because they're dealing with drug bust in the cartel. And that's a massive infrastructure, especially in the southwest United States and they've been masking for like 10 years now. And it's primarily because, okay, yes, there is a factor with the far left where they dox these guys, but the ICE is in a completely different battlefield from the rest of. Like, I guess you would say the right wing is because ICE is having to deal with the cartel. They're having to deal with these drug busts and busting up these human trafficking, you know, routes and these sorts of things. So it's like, it's not the far left they're worried about. Like if you talk to these ICE agents, typically it's the cartels and the retribution from those guys is what they're typically worried about.

[A]

I get it, I get it. I agree. I respect that argument for sure. But again, I'm going to say this. Bottom line, if y' all want to say we're at war, then war powers. And what does that mean? Guys, if you're arguing that these, that our federal law enforcement should be able to wear masks because of wartime conditions, I'm actually going to push you one further and say you are not giving our men and women enough. If the argument is the threat of the far left terrorists so great against their families, we got to step it up. Well, I mean, not, not, not just masks. They got to get more, but they need Selective fire rifles. They need full, full military everything.

[E]

They already have select fire rifles. But the point.

[A]

Not the cops, not the beat cops.

[E]

Well, yeah, okay, so they usually have a rifle in their car. They don't carry them on there. But the point is. So you're talking about ICE that's trying to carry out these, these, you know, these. They're trying to wrap up the, the.

[A]

Well, I was talking specifically about all federal law enforcement. I think a lot of people are taking that to assume just the ice. I'm saying.

[E]

Well, generally, ICE is the one. Are the ones that are wearing the masks and stuff. Right? So you don't see. A lot of.

[B]

You don't see.

[A]

We do.

[E]

That's what people are complaining about. Right.

[A]

The general argument is that police shouldn't be wearing masks. So, okay, fine, I'm so, so I don't want to live where police. So like I mentioned, local cops wearing masks.

[E]

Okay, fine, but. So the federal law enforcement are wearing masks, right. And we don't. And you say you don't want that, what that requires. Right? You're saying if they have to wear masks, that means that the, the violence and the problems are great, are too great to be considered normal. But then the local police who have jurisdiction to go out and pick up the people that might actually attack the federal law enforcement, they're not doing it because the sanctuary cities are saying, no, we won't have these people do these things because we won't, you know, and the local municipalities won't do it. So the problem is the federal government needs to get the local municipalities and stuff to actually do their job.

[A]

So, so let me ask you a question. When there is a, let's just say like a jurisdiction, for lack of a better word, that is not. Does not. Is not required to abide by the laws of a separate jurisdiction, it largely says we don't have. You don't have anything to do with this. There's two separate locations. When jurisdiction B sends armed men into jurisdiction A to enforce laws, that jurisdiction A says we do not abide by. What do you call that.

[E]

When they, when they send people in?

[A]

There are two. There are two isolated jurisdictions. Yeah, two isolated jurisdictions with separate laws, different worldviews, different rules. One city decides to arm a bunch of guys and send them into the other side by force against their will to enforce laws that the other city wants.

[E]

So you're pointing at civil work.

[A]

I'm not talking about civil war. I'm talking about.

[B]

It's war.

[A]

It's just period war. If the argument is that California won't abide by federal law. Has, has ordered their people to defy federal law is allowing individuals to defy federal law. They are not part of this country as it is. Part of this country means that yours, your structures, state, city, local or otherwise are going to abide by, by legal supremacy in this country up to the Constitution. What we are seeing right now, if this is the argument is that blue states have just said absolutely not. And when Trump said this is our election happened, people said immigration, we're going to go and start rounding people up. What happened at the, at the governmental level, Gavin Newsom fought the, the, the federal law. Federal law enforcement ordering the National Guard not to listen to Donald Trump under his, under his orders, which he's allowed to do because they're not enforcing the law. If our ICE agents, let's, let's isolate the ICE age are at a point where they're facing a threat from terrorists that have support from Democrat politicians who help Fundraise for them NGOs run by prominent Democrat donors. And in California, Gavin Newsom and local law enforcement lets these people attack federal facilities. I would call that akin to piracy. Right. And at that point, I think it's very obvious when you break it down that way, we are in a civil war.

[B]

Yeah. I just think if you look from Trump's perspective, right, he's tried to de escalate this Charlie Kirk situation. There hasn't been hard rhetoric get retribution. And in that article you were talking about, he didn't mention civil war. He was just warning from a very logical position. If you keep attacking the right, eventually they're gonna go, are we supposed to just sit and take it or are we gonna retaliate? That's kind of what he was saying there. He wasn't saying it from a Republican position. So if you're Trump, you tell them to demass which I believe that all federal employees, particularly law enforcement, there should be that accountability. Your face should be out there in an ideal world. But let's say they do demask not at war. Yeah. We know that there's going to be some sort of physical retribution attacks on these people. That's only going to escalate the situation. Right. To something that is going to be more kinetic, that potentially is going to be far more divisive. I don't think he wants to be the president that is dealing with that on his plate. He wants to just get his policies done in the way which is most amicable as possible. They obviously don't want that which is why we're in the situation now.

[A]

But then I do deny. I give you two options then stop pussy footing around and go and arrest all of them. Don't give me this excuse. I'm scared. I have to wear a mask. Send the law enforcement to kick the doors into the far left, people that are threatening you, and put them in prison. Then take your mask off.

[B]

Agreed? 100%.

[A]

I'm sick of this half measure.

[E]

I don't think that they have the ability to isolate the people that are actually making the, that are, that are likely to do, like, the doxing and stuff like that. I think it's part of the problem.

[A]

I don't care. The doxing is annoying, but at the same time, it is the individuals who carry out the violence that are the real problem. Getting doxed is bad. We've been doxed. And it's crazy what people are capable of. But the guy who posts my address is a problem. The guy who comes here to care. The threat is the threat, but it's.

[B]

Not a unitary, organized attack. So you look at the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk. I don't think there were, as far as we're aware, there weren't big indications that this was a guy who was militarized and violent and ready to assassinate. And if it was, it seems, from the evidence that I've seen, it seems like it was something that was almost like a spur of the moment. He hit a psychological breaking point and decided to do that. They're more akin to random acts of violence. It's not like a big, organized, premeditated right. We're gonna get that guy.

[A]

We're get that. So it's much harder to tackle. Yes, I get it. If your argument is any one of these individuals walking down the street at any moment might turn around and stab you, then it's time for Trump to dissolve the U.S. constitution under Presidential Directive 51. Create an enduring constitutional government under a single branch, as George W. Bush. Bush's executive order in 2007 granted the executive branch power to do. And then he can send out his masked, militarized police force across the country to make sure this doesn't happen. But the argument that we are at a point where a random individual might pull out a gun and shoot you at any moment, if that is the case, it is worse than anyone realizes. We are in an active civil war. And instead of half assing it and being like, just keep doing your job, but hide in the meantime, that's insane.

[B]

How do you fight an idea? How do you fight an idea like it's not a organized structure.

[A]

Yeah. Trump dissolves the United States and creates the first American empire and then he creates a massive multi billion dollar federal police force that supersedes all of the local governments and then starts searching people's homes. And I mean what is the argument to at any moment a random liberal might detonate a bomb or shoot somebody.

[B]

It's almost like a denazification program at that point you'd have to go in and you'd have to gut the institutions. It would be a complete, like you said, like could be transformative measure. I don't think, I don't think he's.

[A]

Got the appetite for that. Let's just try and do the math. Three terror, three terror attacks in three weeks. It was mainstream liberal ideology that was behind the shoot the murder of Charlie Kirk.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So I agree with your point. I think you are correct. We don't know who's been radicalized. It could be too many people. And even AOC is espousing the ideology that this guy shared that motivated him on the House floor. Okay, let's try denazification. So how do we figure out who holds the ideology and is needing of a reeducation?

[B]

Well, we're gonna follow the donors, we're gonna see like the top down media who.

[A]

Well this was a random guy at home, like you mentioned. It's a random guy.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean you can look at the media he was consuming, right. You can see the groups that he's in, the ideologies he's identifying with.

[A]

Right. So my question is how do you find him before he kills Charlie Kirk?

[B]

That's almost like how do you stop a guy if it's almost like a thought crime before they've done anything?

[A]

Agreed. You can't. Which is why I said the solution to the problem you're describing is Trump dissolving the three branches of government under Presidential Directive 51. Creating an enduring constitutional government as prescribed by national security. Presidential directive 51. And then he creates a federalized police force which goes and secures every street corner. Cuz we don't know at what point a liberal is gonna just go start foaming at the mouth, plot a gun and shoot a random person. Now I don't think we can live that way and I don't think anyone would tolerate that. So the idea is right now where are we? Law enforcement can't do their job because the threat of left wing terror is too great. Okay, well we're losing then. We are losing. If that's the case. I don't want to lose. There's no such thing as we're going to knock on doors and ask people if they're radicalized and then bring them to a reeducation center.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's no way we're going to find some random dude who's on Discord who one day decided to take his grandfather's gun and go assassinate Charlie Kirk because they're just people walking around. If the radicalization is that bad, then the only answer is full blown, full scale American empire like Trump has to go iron fist on the table right now before it actually comes to multifaction war across the United States.

[B]

I would argue even Trump's base doesn't have the appetite for that.

[A]

Then we lose. Then we lost. Yeah. I mean, like, this is the point I'm making to everybody who's like, no law enforcement should wear masks. If your argument is we need our law enforcement to mask up because they fear that the left will attack them and will go after their families, we've lost. Like, what we are describing is we are a diminished capacity force with scared federal law enforcement that are concerned that the might of leftist terror would overwhelm them and they won't be able to do their jobs. So they have to hide themselves. The reason why antifa wear masks is because there is a more powerful state that can crush them and they're trying to hide from it. But when communists take power, they put on uniforms. If the argument is our men in uniform have to hide, we are losing.

[B]

I mean, I know in the UK for example, they would do this almost harassments of dissidents where before people could commit a crime. And the UK has got a huge amount of these human rights problems. But one of the things that they did do fairly well, which has curbed radicalism, is when they see people expressing these ideological tendencies, they will get these knocks on the door. And the idea is that you're being watched, you're going to be less in bull.

[F]

Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast in case you missed it with Christina Williams, the WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments. You won't find anywhere else.

[H]

It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge.

[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.

[F]

So listen to in case you missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

I'm Kristina Williams, host of the podcast in case you missed it with Kristina Williams. The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

[H]

It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge.

[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the games brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to in case youe Missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart woman sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[B]

Told them to go do something. But I fully disagree with that looks it can be massively abused. When you look at it from a civil liberties point of view, there is no easy answer here. You're in a society that is so polarized now with such a lust for political violence on one side and then the other side is kind of going, well, look, no, no, cities burnt down when, when Charlie Kirk was killed, it's like, yeah, that's a great virtue. But when the other side literally wants you dead, what is the solution? What, what can Trump realistically do? And what, what, what is the, the average Republican voter actually going to do themselves to try and negate that fact, it's a very difficult question.

[A]

Well, here's a story from the Post. Millennial Trump signs order launching all of government effort to dismantle left wing domestic terror groups. The Postman reports President Trump signed a memorandum on Thursday launching an administration wide effort to dismantle left wing domestic terror groups across the country. The order seeks to interdict the groups, block them performing from performing violent acts and the administration will look at sources of funding. Let's play the video. Anarchists and agitators, professional anarchists and agitators. And they get hired by wealthy people, some of whom I know, I guess.

[H]

You know, I probably know them and.

[A]

You wouldn't know at dinner with them.

[B]

Everything is nice and then you find.

[A]

Out that they funded millions of dollars to these lunatics. Steve, could you say a couple of words? Yes, Mr. Please.

[B]

This is a very historic and significant day. This is the first time in American history that there is an all of government effort to dismantle left wing terrorism, to dismantle antifa, to dismantle the organizations that have been carrying out these acts of political violence and terrorism. What we have seen, if you look at whether it be going back to the riots that started with Black Lives Matter and all the way through to the antifa riots, the attacks on ICE officers, the doxxing campaigns and now the political assassinations, these are not lone, isolated events. This is part of an organized campaign of radical left terrorism. It is structured into system sophisticated, it.

[A]

Is well funded, it is well planned.

[B]

There is really no parallel like this to anything else in the country. Right now there is an entire system of feeder organizations that provide money, resources, weapons, and when they're attacking ICE officers, they're attacking federal buildings or they're isolating public officials for harassment, doxing, intimidation and ultimately attempted assassination. It is all carefully planned, executed and thought through. It is terrorism on our soil. Because of this executive order, Cash and.

[A]

Pam are going to have the tools.

[B]

They need working with Scott to take these organizations apart piece by piece.

[A]

And the central hub of that effort.

[B]

Is going to be the Joint Terrorism Task Force, or jttf, which sits inside the Federal Bureau of Investigation. But for those at home who are worried about terrorism in this country, they.

[A]

Need to understand because of President Trump's.

[B]

Strength, because of his vision, because of.

[A]

His leadership, we are now going to use the entire force of the federal.

[B]

Government to uproot these organizations root and branch. And again, that's only possible because of President Trump and his leadership.

[A]

Thank you, Steve Cassidy. I'm going to take this opportunity to announce my retirement. This will be my last show. I've decided that we're doing this again. I shouldn't be showing my face because of the threats against me and my family. I think I have been convinced by the audience. The threats that we've received over the past week, even being completely uninvolved in anything related to tpusa, have been so tremendous that my security team warned I wouldn't be able to travel. And a disguise wasn't necessarily an option because my travel itinerary stuff can be leaked as well, especially by employees who are doing load manifest. And the issue being that with prominent mainstream, run of the mill liberals posting that they wanted to see these deaths, the concern is. You're absolutely right, Joseph. What you were saying. We don't know which one of these people might just see a flight manifest and then send a message to a discord saying, tim Pool's gonna be on this plane. Here's when it's landing. So the ultimate decision was we could buy four plane tickets. You, your wife, two security guards. You'll land, we'll have two security guards waiting for you. Four person escort to an armored suv, which will bring you to a hotel where we'll stand guard outside of your. Outside of the door for 24,7 security, be transported to the event where security will stay with you at all times. And then you will go back, you'll be confined to your hotel. I said I don't think I want to do that. And they said you probably shouldn't travel. And you know. So I think everybody's correct in that I'm not a law enforcement guy. I'm just somebody with opinions. And the threats are really great. And they're trying to figure out where I live. They come to my house. Why would I take this risk at all? So I quit.

[D]

Just cause, just. I'm sorry to hear that, Tim. But also in the political world, we're talking about how anything can happen anytime. Left wingers or liberal folks can get crazy right off the bat. We live in that world. Now look at that young lady who got stabbed on the train. Anyone right now, today, you're walking down the street, you get shot and killed by anyone, by anyone, anywhere. So we're just focusing on the political world.

[A]

I'll be more serious about it. I don't understand the argument that people are telling me I'm wrong about asking our law enforcement to stand firm and proud and fight for their country. And they're saying no, they should hide, but then expecting me to have to Live in a box.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I. I'd much rather just. I can, I can. You know, it's really funny. I. I put on a blue T shirt. I should describe that.

[D]

Yeah, I've seen that.

[A]

Well, I'll just say it. I put on a blue T shirt, took my hat off and put on glasses and no one knew who I was. I walked in, we're like, who is this guy? Yep. Everybody. And then, and then I walked up and they went. So, you know, I can be real. Like, if this is the opinion people have, honest question, why do you expect me to do this? Forward facing publicly with my own name where I'm worried about whether our food's being tampered with. We can't order food. We have to have bodyguards. Like, why am I living this way if our law enforcement gets special protections and privileges? You expect me to do all of this? I'm just kind of like, maybe you guys are right. Maybe we should all hide. Maybe we shouldn't put ourselves at risk. I can launch a new YouTube channel with a. With an AI there's like, isn't that honest question is liberal hive mind just AI right? That YouTube channel is a guy. Okay, okay. Because it very much sounds like AI Okay. That's just how he is. Okay. Sorry, I didn't mean to impugn your honor, but I could just launch an AI channel known over. Make it a woman. Yeah. You're using AI Avatar female. Like, you know. You know what I'll do? What? That. The anime waifu. You do the other vtuber. Yes.

[D]

You can move around and they move. You can be like a rabbit with a chick.

[A]

Oh, bro, I'm out. Why don't I do that?

[E]

I mean, it could be a vtuber.

[B]

You've.

[A]

Yeah. Your voice you'd have to use done easy. I mean, you got those real time AI voice changers.

[D]

You're way more front facing towards the political world than the cops are. Than one cop on the street.

[A]

Which is which. Which my point would. Would be that most of these cops have substantially less risk than I do.

[D]

Yes, they do.

[A]

So if the argument is they should wear masks, no one should know who they are because the left are terrorists. I'm like, I'm being 100% serious thinking about that. Like, if that's what people really think, they just killed Charlie. Like, maybe none of us should be doing this and we should just sit back and let Trump do his thing.

[C]

But for an ICE agent, what difference does it make for their job if they have their face out there? In their name because at the end of the day they're a badge and they're conducting an operation, a very specific job. Like it doesn't matter if they're a public individual or not. We're trying to get, we're trying to get legal immigrants out. Like, Right.

[A]

The argument is the far left might try to dox them. And I'm sitting here being like, well, I'm already doxed. The far left, once they dox, they might try to kill them. Like they're literally trying to kill me. And we have people showing up and I have to get guns and. Right.

[C]

But if you're an ICE agent making. I mean, I know they're getting paid decent, but they don't have the money for security or anything. And it's like it doesn't, it's not advantageous for them in any way to be like a public facing person. Like, it doesn't. If anything, it just makes it worse.

[D]

But they're not a public facing person.

[A]

They don't have to be.

[C]

And that's why they're masking.

[A]

No, there's tons of anonymous personalities that make tons of money doing political commentary.

[C]

Yeah, it's true. Yeah. I mean, and I think that's fine. I do think there's value.

[A]

Maybe that's where we're going. I mean, look, Charlie got assassinated.

[C]

Yeah. I do actually think like anonymous or pseudonyms is like fine in the political space. And they're able to push ideas without fear of getting killed.

[B]

I mean, people ultimately buy from people. And when they're, you know, you are disseminating ideas, they're buying into an idea they're buying into. Especially if you become a living embodiment of that idea. I want to be like that guy.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I want to live in the way that he lives because he seems really fulfilled. I understand what you're saying. Completely. Like let's. They should be demasked. But what that would be, it would be a giant gambit and you would. We know what would happen. We would see families being targeted. We would potentially see targeted assassinations. But it'd be on a much larger scale.

[A]

I don't, I don't, I don't think so.

[B]

You don't?

[A]

No.

[B]

Well, why aren't they. Because there is a risk. There is a risk department somewhere that is an individual down and gone. Because they need to wear masks because.

[A]

There'S a reason why they killed Charlie Kirk and not an individual ICE agent. There's tons of federal law enforcement guys that aren't wearing masks. Just some of them are just tried and they went three. Yeah. They killed, they killed Charlie.

[C]

Right. But like they tried to kill ICE agents who did like two days ago.

[A]

No.

[C]

John. Or whatever.

[A]

Oh, right, right, right. And they're that so that's that. But that was indiscriminate. That wasn't a targeted on guy's house. No, but it was a third terror attack on ICE where they went to a facility and attacked random people. In fact, he killed detainees. Right. The argument we're making is they will go to the home of the, of the ICE agent.

[C]

I mean. Yeah. Presumably if their information, if they're privy to information at some point.

[A]

I mean you can go on LinkedIn.

[C]

And find this, I mean the cartel is, I mean you got, you got.

[A]

You got, you got a C facility here. You could just sit outside and collect license plates.

[B]

I mean the cartel things are important. We've seen like the assassination of various DEA agents. Right. Like that happens a lot. Right. They would be in the same realm as that. However, the difference is is that that is like, you know, the cartels are a foreign organization. So it's seen as an external threat. Foreign terrorist organization.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I, I, within the cartels when it's on your own soil and it's your next door neighbor, it's the guy sitting next to you on the bus. It's, it's a completely different. Almost like years of lead type scenario. Yeah. If they do do mask, they're obviously not because there has been a risk, risk management sort of assessment probably like hundreds and hundreds of pages long that has gone. Actually it's probably best that these guys stay masked up.

[A]

Yeah. The reason why the left doesn't have any leaders, they actually do. And I will tell you this from literally being in these direct action meetings with leftists. They have leaders, the leaders organize, they supply money, tools. And then they say I'm not your leader and if anyone asks, I'm not in charge. When they go out to protest, you'll never see anybody directly leading the group because they say law enforcement will target any perceived leaders. So that's why they say ANTIFA is a leaderless movement. It has leaders. They're just lying liberals cover up for them or they're just stupid. Someone is funding these tools, someone is buying these things and handing them out. Someone is telling these people where to go. Someone is saying here's the route we're going to take. And it's usually a small group. The hierarchy is natural. Usually it's a young guy who says here's what we're doing. And they say, okay. Cause, I mean, let's just be real. Communism isn't the real thing. The idea that there's like a truly decentralized group of friends all holding hands, just being like, how many of you wanna vote for a route that goes down Broadway and turns left at 45th, raise your hand. They don't do that. One guy goes, here's the plan. We're gonna march from the financial district down Broadway. We're gonna turn left at 42nd, make our way to Bryant park. From there. We've got a group waiting with Shields, and they go, okay, now who's that guy? Who does he work for? Where's his money coming from?

[B]

That's what this needs to resolve.

[A]

Indeed.

[B]

But has it, when we were talking before the show, that potentially this doesn't actually change much? Like, is this really gonna give him the tools and give the FBI the tools to dig into these people, hold them accountable? I mean, it is kind of that vague thing. I made a donation. I don't. I don't know what happened to the money after it went out. I thought it was for a good cause. It was. It was misappropriation of funds. They know what they're doing. They're not stupid. They're highly sophisticated actors. These. When they are doing these donations and they are sort of pushing these ideas and kind of giving someone a tap on the shoulder to do something, it's done in a way where they're not going to be held legally accountable.

[E]

The donors, them are the people that are actually making the donations. If they're in the small denomination, they likely do think, okay, I'm just doing this to help. Because, like, the people that donated to Black Lives Matter, they were conned. And you know, those people, they thought they were doing something good, but the people that are running the organization and, and those people, you know, they have to file paperwork and et cetera. Those people you can wrap up. And those people that the DOJ can look into, and then any big donations, like, you know, really sizable, hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, that's something the feds can look into as well.

[A]

What if Trump was like, we're declaring Antifa a terrorist organization. All of those who are flying the symbols of antifa who are alleging, pledging allegiance to or support for our fair game.

[E]

I think that that's.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's what he should be.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So commies are right.

[A]

But you're saying that, like, that means regular citizens going out, taking individual action as A civilian against someone who's flying the antifa flag.

[E]

Oh, no, I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about federal law enforcement.

[A]

No, I'm saying Trump tells everyone in this country, if you as an individual stop someone who's flying antifa, like, but.

[B]

I mean, if someone.

[A]

Sir, I asked you a question. What?

[E]

If Trump did that, that would, that would be a terrible situation because.

[A]

Well, so the reason I asked that question is that Trump has designated Antifa a terror terrorist organization. What does that mean? If you are a citizen of this country and you are walking down the street and you see a guy with a gun waving an ISIS flag, will you go to jail if you stop that person?

[E]

Depends on the jurisdiction.

[A]

That's why I'm asking what would happen. The point I'm making with the question is Trump has said antifa are terrorists. What is the legal ramification of a citizen saying citizens arrest or citizen enforcement action against a terrorist flying a terrorist flag?

[D]

If you're a terrorist on my land, I have a right to stop you in my country from doing terror.

[A]

Well, I don't know what you do.

[D]

Well, I'm just saying, like, in general, like, you would think that folks would want to stop terrorism on their own.

[B]

It should be, I mean, like, let's say there was like an Islamic terrorist. Yeah, right. That was waving one of the several flags. I'm not sure they're going to say.

[E]

Look, I mean, if some kids get.

[B]

Demonetized, but it's like, I'm sure. I doubt a jury in a court would prosecute them for, you know, this guy's waving a firearm or whatever and he shoots him and preemptively stops up to terror.

[E]

It all depends on the jurisdiction, but I mean, totally depends on the jurisdiction. You do that in New York, you're going to jail forever.

[A]

Right, right.

[E]

If the guy was actually, if the guy was actually shooting at people in New York, there's a, still a possibility that you would go to jail if you took him out.

[B]

Well, I mean, that, that's something that needs to be addressed on a federal level. Is it even possible? Can, can they do that? I mean, I'm not familiar.

[E]

It would be a local thing. The feds don't actually, the feds wouldn't actually have jurisdiction over that.

[D]

The blue states are in soft succession right now because, like, they have sanctuary states. So they're softly succeeding, trying to. But they're not really doing it. But they're just, it's really like, it's.

[A]

Like a soft civilization.

[E]

And if there's someone that's way if there's someone that's actually shooting or, or even probably menacing people with a gun, which means pointing a gun at someone and you shot him in.

[F]

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[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

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[I]

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[F]

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[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

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[I]

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[F]

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[E]

In another, in a state that has like, stand your ground laws or has the, you know, Second Amendment friendly, there's a possibility that you could convince a jury, no, he was going to hurt people and I prevented him. Now, that would be, that would be dependent on the jury, but there is a possibility that, look, here's the situation. He was saying these things, he was yelling these things. He was pointing his gun at people, you know, so I saw that and I, and I figured I needed to take action to defend someone else because he was going. I was in legitimate fear for my life and I believed that he was going to cause permanent harm or death to someone else. So I acted to prevent, to end the threat because there was an ongoing threat. Now, you can make that argument. And if you have a good lawyer and you are in front of a jury that's fairly friendly to the Second Amendment and you're in a jurisdiction where there are people that are friendly to the 2nd, to the 2nd amendment, you might be able to get, you might be able to get justifiable homicide. But in a place like New Jersey, in a place like New York, that is not going to happen. You will go to jail.

[A]

So this is, this is actually surprising. My cursory search, which is surprising to me, is that if there is a known foreign terrorist organization, individual, ISIS is a great example, who is flying the flag and armed and screaming while walking down the street, you have no legal right to do anything as a citizen against that person, be it stop them, detain them, or hurt them in any way. They're to be treated according to my cursory search, as if they were any other citizen, no matter what.

[B]

So that sounds like something that needs to be.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Dealt with, obviously, with the First Amendment right. Is it political expression if you, if you're waving the flag?

[E]

Everything that Tim said is true, but it still does depend on the jury.

[A]

Yeah, well, you'll go, you'll get arrested, you'll get charged.

[E]

Yeah. In most places you're going to get arrested. I don't think there's very few places where you could get away with shooting someone and you wouldn't even.

[A]

I'm pretty sure it just has a flag. Well, well, let's, let's, let's clarify what you mean.

[E]

Very few. Not, not none.

[A]

I think you need to clarify what you mean by arrest.

[E]

The police are going to take you into.

[A]

George. George. Custody is not arrest like being detained. You mean arrest is Probable cause for a crime. You are, you're being taken and to be processed for that. For that.

[E]

I would still say that there are a few, there are some jurisdictions where you might not, I'm pretty sure, but.

[A]

Most, I can at least speak for West Virginia.

[E]

I would even get down to. It depends on the, on the, like.

[A]

If you're on your, if you're on your property.

[E]

Yes, if you're on your property.

[A]

Yeah. And like in Florida with Zimmerman and Trayvon, I don't believe he was arrested. He was brought in for questioning and then released. And that's what caused the controversy.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, that could be too. Again, I think that it does depend, it depends a lot on the, the even down to the locality, because if you're in an urban area in a place like Virginia, you might not get the same kind of treatment from the, the county sheriff or whatever that you would if you were in a more rural area.

[B]

So, so do you think it's going to be a case of perhaps Trump needs to encourage the red states to adopt legislation to facilitate this sort of, you know, citizens arrest, you know, potentially if someone's holding.

[E]

I don't know what.

[B]

This is one of those slippery, It's a slippery slope. Right. And also you're talking about this kind of like soft secession. If you've got, you know, de facto situation in blue states where these guys can walk around unattested and actually not just that, but can continue to grow.

[E]

It wouldn't be influence, it wouldn't be Trump. It would have to be something that Congress passes right to have the force of law. And I don't know if that would stand because places like New York or New Jersey or Illinois, they would fight that under 10th Amendment grounds. They would say we, we have the state's right to do that.

[A]

I think as we discuss this and go through the math of everything we're looking at, the real underlying thing that everyone is just saying is we're in a civil war.

[B]

I, I think that it's across the west. There is an ideological war. I think that it is, it's less of like a civil war, like you guys are here, you guys there. I mean, it is more of a years of lead type scenario.

[A]

But that's that, that, that idea of you guys are here and we're. There has never been a civil war ever.

[B]

Well, I mean, the, the American Civil War, I mean, but there was a.

[D]

Timeline and a trend one place, but.

[B]

That'S that the Spanish Civil War as well.

[A]

But the American Civil War is The is not a civil war.

[B]

Okay, well, semantics different, but so most people would understand, the Civil War is going to be something like the American Civil War. The Spanish Civil War.

[A]

What was the Spanish Civil War, then?

[B]

It was an ideological war.

[A]

Right. But no, like, there were. There were factions fighting.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And there was no here and there. It was Franco from Morocco, went up to the south of Spain, rallied troops to fight against other military, seized control of military assets, and then you saw certain areas that were leaning in one direction, Nationalist or Republican, and the fighting was actually all over the country until militarized force were able to secure certain areas and then push out the far off.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, even if you look at the Syrian Civil War, you can look at the live map. There was a front line. Right. Same in the Spanish Civil War. Right. Like, there are. This city is ours. Yes. There might be some insurgencies within those cities, but there was like, okay, they've got their military units there, they've got their trucks.

[A]

Right. But it was spotted all over the place.

[B]

Well, I mean, it was.

[A]

The Spanish. The Spanish Civil War was. Was blotches. There were. There are front lines.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So the. The American Civil War was actually a union fractured, a new union formed, and then the. The union, proper noun, sent troops down to force the. The separate union.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So that. That's very different from any other civil war ever throughout history. What the U.S. the United States Civil War, they call it, is more akin to a standard war in Europe or something. It is. It is more akin to a conventional war by two countries. That. That's effectively what the American Civil War was.

[B]

Well, I mean, like, the Spanish Civil War did have front lines. This city, this road, these trains were under our control. And the other, when you look at the Spanish, there was still a differentiation whether you were under the national.

[A]

That's correct, because the Spanish Civil War was not a. You're there and we're here. It was. This city is controlled by the Republicans. This farmland and this rural area is by the Nationalists. Down south, there's a pocket where we control in between. But the Nationalists have this and the Republicans have this. Yeah, but I mean, in traditional civil wars, control is spread out all over and blotches.

[B]

I mean, even in the Confederacy, there were Unionists within the. Who were living within the Confederate borders who were still, like, aiding the Unionist side as an insurgency. Yes, but like, de facto, like, who was controlling law.

[A]

I'm just trying to clarify, because the point I'm making is the United States Civil War is not a civil War. By most historical standards, the fact that there was a North and south dividing line, a Mason Dixon line, is solely unique to the American Civil War. Other civil wars throughout history had split control in various regions. Not a North and a South. There's northeastern, Western. Like, when you look at the Spanish Civil War map and you watch how the military's moved through areas, there were pockets over here that was nationalist, nationalist, nationalist. The Nationalists was largely like, rural areas. The Republicans were largely urban areas. And they were split up all over the place initially.

[B]

But then they did become. They did consolidate forces.

[A]

After, after, after initial period, Franco and his troops started crushing the left and moving through, they gained more control. Yeah, but the American Civil War started as something entirely different, with a literal line between two unions. In fact, Texas. One of the reasons for Texas secession to join the Confederacy was simple proximity. When Texas voted to join the south, the Confederacy, it was simply, we have no trade partners. So I guess this is who we're with. It wasn't like people in Texas were like, raw, we hate the Union. It was like, well, look, for all intents and purposes, we are part of the Confederacy. In Maryland, they actually were one third sympathetic to the South. So it wasn't. And it still, I mean, there was still.

[B]

What I was trying to get is there were still geographical states and regions which were considered, you know, under the control of those governments or forces.

[A]

And that's true today, right now, in.

[B]

The United states, in the U.S. well, yes and no. Like, I don't think that, like, the. The governor, like Gavin Newsom, for example, is going to come out on the complete side of, like, he denounced the murder of Charlie Kirk. Like, he's not on the same parallel as the sort of people that Trump's sort of fighting here. I don't think they might share the same ideological realm. But do I think Gavin Newsom is involved on grassroots level, antifa, you know, guys going and assassinating politicians? No, I think they share the same ideological space. So as a result, they. They don't even want to give an inch of ground, because if they give an inch of ground against the left.

[A]

Then there could be a flood against. And that's a good distinction. To determine when we're actually in a civil war is when you actually have a policy from a state defy the jurisdiction of the federal government and say, we will not abide by your rules.

[B]

Which I guess your argument is going to be with, like, the sanctuary city stuff.

[A]

Well, I guess. Never mind. That's probably not a good distinction because that literally is what all of them are doing. So if, if it's not okay, I'm being complete honest question here. We have political assassinations. We've got California allowing far leftists to firebomb and attack federal law enforcement with impunity. In the Pacific Northwest, they do the same thing. Portland local law enforcement isn't stopping these guys. They've let them do it for now. Three months, I think it's been going on in Portland and the feds are trying to stop it. It's not to the point where Gavin Newsom says, go and arrest those federal agents, but Gavin Newsom just ordered federal agents to take their masks off. So the question then is we're looking at this gradient to try and figure out when it is technically a civil war. But I can say this. We are in a period of assassinations where the mainstream political faction of the left celebrates it or they lie about it, or they defend it. The ideology that motivated the assassin is espoused on the floor of our own congressional House by the most famous Democrat, in my opinion. Aoc. You can make arguments about any of the other Democrats, but they've largely waned. And as pertains to law enforcement, the California government is letting far leftists organize and firebomb federal facilities. California, Oregon and Washington have been doing this for years. Newsom tried to commandeer control of the National Guard away from Donald Trump and has now ordered federal law enforcement to abide by his rules and take their masks off. Okay, so it's not a civil war, it's an insurrection.

[B]

Perhaps there's a better terminology, say insurrectionary activities.

[E]

Civil unrest. Unrest still going. You know, it's what we've been calling. We've been calling it civil unrest for.

[A]

You know, I'm asking, like, when is the when is the when has become a heap of sand. If Gavin Newsom, he just came out and said they passed a law, right, mandating authority over federal law enforcement, which they don't have the authority to do, and they're threatening federal law enforcement with arrest.

[B]

It's all about Trump. Trump's response. Right? Trump would have. I imagine I'm not as well versed in American politics as you guys, but he would have somewhat of a mandate to go, okay, well, this state is acting in rebellion of the union. I'm sure there's some sort of legal prerequisites where he could potentially justify federalizing it, whatever. Whatever it may be. But I'm sure there's still a huge amount of legal frameworks to go through, try and resolve it. Before it gets to a point of, actually, there is no discussion. It's like, we're going to do this, we're going to do that, and we're an impasse.

[A]

Let's pull this up. We got this story from cnn. It's from a couple days ago. California bans most law enforcement officers from wearing masks during operations. California became the first state to ban most law enforcement officers, including federal immigration agents, from covering their faces while conducting official business under a bill that was signed Saturday by Gov. Gavin Newsom and swiftly denounced by Trump administration officials. The ban is a direct response to recent immigration raids in L. A where federal agents wore masks while making mass arrests. The raids prompted days of protests and led Trump to deploy National Guard troops and Marines. Okay, so here's the question. Law enforcement being dispatched to California is now being. It is forbidden for them to wear masks while conducting federal law enforcement. Do you believe the government of California will enforce this law against federal law enforcement?

[D]

I don't see that happening.

[C]

I don't think they have.

[D]

That's a big line.

[A]

Fucking.

[D]

I don't think they have a line to cross.

[C]

They don't have a mechanism. I mean, like we saw in the 60s, something somewhat similar in the civil rights era where the feds cracked down on states for not, you know, not playing ball, and then the federal government won.

[D]

That's vice versa. Feds cracking down on states. This is a state trying to crack down on feds.

[C]

Well, this is.

[A]

That's a no from Raymond.

[D]

Yes, sir.

[A]

What do you think, Phil? You think Gavin Newsom will have state troopers go and arrest ICE for wearing masks?

[E]

I don't think he will. I think that he'll posture. I think that he'll posture and. But I don't think that'll actually dispatch.

[A]

I think that's the line.

[C]

Yeah, that's a big percent.

[A]

If Gavin Newsom arrests federal law enforcement, we are in new territory.

[C]

That's 100% the line. Yeah.

[A]

I think the struggle we have with the concept of civil war is no one knows when you're in a civil war. Throughout history, every single Civil war, they have always argued and debated whether or not they were actually in a conflict. And as we bring up famously, we historically look back at Fort Sumter as the beginning of the American Civil War, but the people who lived in the country at the time didn't even think we were in one and went and picnicked at the first Battle of Bull Run because they didn't think a civil war was happening. And then the Confederates won, routed the north sent them packing and then thought the war ended. They said that's it, no war, we've just shown them. And then Lincoln was like, nah, send in the troops. And then four other states were like, oh my God, this is getting crazy. What's going on? Took a long time. The first seven states secede from the Union happened before Abraham Lincoln was even president. Several months. So I don't know that we'll actually know until we're well into it. In fact, I believe they called it, what do they call it? First it was like a rebellion in the south, then it was called a conflict between states. And then I think it was like a year later or a year or two, they started calling it the Civil War right in the United States.

[E]

I mean it is reasonable to say that it's possible like right now, like looking back, you know, they'll say that now was the beginning of it, that the assassinations, that the, the first shots that were fired were actually people assassinating other people and taking shots at law enforcement and stuff like that.

[A]

I mean take a look at this article. But who wants to read that headline?

[E]

Charlie Kirk's murder could become another Fort Sumter. You know the fact that this is something that the respectable journalists are talking about now, the Hill, which is absolutely legacy media to call this far fetched now with all of these attacks on ICE facilities, with the attempts on Trump with the murder, this is no longer far fetched. This is no longer the stuff of a.

[A]

Can I cash out like a 50 leg parlay or something on this one? I'm going back seven years on this boys.

[B]

I mean I'm going to play a bit of devil's advocate here. I think that a lot of these legacy media are coming out with these very sensationalist headlines because they are losing to independent media and they can't keep up that people aren't interested in clicking some like really kind of like boring white bread sort of headlines anymore. Like everybody's so sort of brain rotted from the scrolling. Everything sensationalized. World War three every other week that they kind of have been pushed towards this more radical discourse. But the knock on effects of reading stuff like that are very real. It does put it in people's heads, it's true.

[E]

But if there weren't so many people that have died, there weren't so many attacks that there, I mean like there were four ICE facilities attacked since August 1st pro. I think actually in the past three weeks.

[A]

So four. No, no, no. It's been like it's like three attacks in three months.

[E]

I googled it last night when I did the intro and it was four. I actually, I did it on Gro and it was four attack. Four ICE facilities attacked since August 1st is what I checked. I asked how many, how many ice facilities had been attacked. So yeah, like whether or not there were people killed. Not all of them had casualties, but there were four ICE attacks or four ICE facilities attacked since August 1st. So in the past two months, like you have Charlie Kirk that was murdered, you have Donald Trump. That was the assassination attempt. That was just over a year ago. Then there was. You can say that the attacks, I don't think that the attack, the murder of the Minnesota lawmaker was actually politically motivated, but there are people that'll swear up and down that it was. This is, this is something that is not like unusual at this point in time. Like this is something that is, is become almost commonplace. Just, I mean people are waking up saying, hey, am I gonna see, am I gonna find out that there was another, another, you know, political murder in the country?

[B]

Yeah. I mean even like the Epstein stuff with like the lawyers disappearing and like dying and these suicides, I think like it has become a lot more of a violence political atmosphere in America. Yeah, I mean there's always become normalized to you almost. You're not surprised now like if I saw another assassination, I don't think I'm going to have the same reaction that I did to Charlie Kirk. I'm somewhat expectant that seeing the level of praise that it's had from the left that someone is going to do a copycat attack because they're going to hit that sort of like cult status.

[A]

So we've got a half correction. It's actually pretty wild that we can't and don't cover every story because if it doesn't reach, it doesn't bubble up, we don't know. But on August 29th, a person attempted to run over a CBP agent. We've got the August 25th was bomb threats to a Dallas ICE facility. If you're talking about the ambushes, then it's three in like three months. If you're talking about everything from death threats to riots, it's five. No, no, it's four. It's four. So. And I guess CBP doesn't really count. So it's three since August 1st broadcast. And then violent attacks like rifle long range, those terror attacks. I think it's three and three months.

[D]

On June 29th when they, they got the 20 year old set to fire and he killed the firemen, he killed the chief of police and John Morrison.

[A]

Where was that?

[D]

Clanfield Mountain, first of Texas, I believe.

[A]

That's not.

[D]

You guys talked about it?

[A]

No, no, it's not ice.

[D]

But I'm saying they set up ambushes, you know, more.

[A]

Right.

[D]

More violent.

[A]

There was this. Is he an assassination of the CPP guy earlier this year? Yeah, it's been pretty dang wild. So we're definitely in bleeding Kansas, isn't it? Kind of funny to say, like, hey, guys, Bleeding Kansas confirmed yesterday on the Will Kane show. They opened by calling this Bloody September, I think. Geez, Jack Posobic was the first person I saw who called it Bloody September. And I agree. The reason why we say Bloody September is condenses all of the ideas of the attacks into a single phrase which can invoke that knowledge. So it's a zip file for memory. That's why we give things names.

[B]

Do you think that, like, the economic fallout of something like this escalating, though, is going to be far too great? I mean, the thing that people care about the most is ultimately, would you.

[F]

Guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to in case you missed it with Christina Williams, an Iheart Woman sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast, would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

I'm Kristina Williams, host of the podcast in case you missed it with Kristina Williams. The WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

[H]

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[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to In Case youe Missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[B]

Do I have a good standard of living?

[E]

If there is a.

[B]

You think that like here does have that sort of political climate?

[A]

Because, I mean, when you look at there's no kids.

[B]

There's no kids.

[A]

The Gen Alpha is half the size of Millennial and Gen Z. That's, that's the problem.

[B]

But is that, is it on the conservative side though? Because I've never seen as many young families of like guys in their 20s, married, kids, highly Christian.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But even, even with that trend among Gen C, gen alpha is 40 million estimates from 40 to 42 million. That is half the size of Millennials and Gen. I think they're calling it Gen Bravo because nobody likes Beta is just starting now, meaning our economy is fried no matter what we do. And you now have a large cohort of young, single, childless men.

[B]

On which side though?

[A]

On both sides now it's less, less likely. I think a third of Gen Z men are leaning right. But either way, for like Gen Z men largely are not having relationships and having kids. Look, I was supposed to have a kid in my 20s. That's, that's human standard. That's what all humans have. But I turned how old was I 22 or 23 when the financial crisis happened? So sleeping on couches, I didn't even realize at the time something was wrong. I lived with like nine dudes, a bunch of college age dudes in this massive loft where we all spent a couple hundred dollars because it was cheap and it was like six bedrooms. And I was in the pantry. Pantry was nice door to the kitchen and a door to the living room. And it was, I think probably six by eight. No, no, no, it was probably eight by ten. Not bad.

[D]

Huge pantry.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah. Walking two doors, put some curtains up. It was pretty cool. We have parties. I would put shelves at the doors and I'd sell booze. But anyway, I, I was supposed to be working a job and having a family, but that was impossible. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so even right now, Gen Z guys aren't, aren't doing this. Rudyard lynch talked about this. I don't know. You were talking to him earlier. I don't know if you brought it up, but historically, whenever you get a large population of young men without children, you get war.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[D]

And then AI is going to take away all their jobs here in 10 years, 5 years.

[A]

They cooked. Yeah, we cooked. Yeah.

[C]

The one save me alive, the one saving grace is that young. It's not a saving grace. It's actually a very sad thing. But young men's like, hormones are completely nuked. So a lot of them don't even have the testosterone required to like sign up for like a, like a full blown civil war. You're just going to get insurgents from the left. That's all you're going to get. The right wing guys are actually like healthy.

[E]

One thing that I'm really surprised that. Well, the one thing that I think we should expect as things escalate would be like more bombings. Because that was something that was really common in the, in the 70s, in the early 70s, late 60s. The Weathermen and stuff. They. There were over a thousand bombings between 1970 and 1972.

[B]

Wow.

[E]

And that's something that hasn't taken, you know, you haven't seen a lot of thankfully. But as thing as tensions rise and you have people that aren't as suicidal looking to, to harm, you know, their political opponents. That's the kind of thing that I think we, we need to be concerned with as like the next level. If, if the, if that does start becoming something that's common, then you know that I feel like that's the, the next escalation or would be looked at as the next.

[C]

The reason we're not seeing it is there's three reasons. The first is it requires coordination to some degree. I know there's obviously lone wolves over the years, but it requires a degree of coordination with others. Two is people are like not smart enough to assemble these. I mean, I know you can like follow directions online and stuff, but there's actually a Lot of stories. Blowing them up in their house.

[E]

You can ask ChatGPT.

[C]

I know that, but I'm saying people, people like are blowing themselves in houses. Like, if you look it up, it happens somewhat frequently. And then the third is that the government's actually done a pretty good job of making it difficult to collect the materials you would need to put together a box.

[E]

Yeah, that's one thing that I think is a good point. The. The base materials to do this stuff. Like the government is actually watching for people that purchase certain things in order or whatever. So that might be why the fourth.

[D]

Would be to your points would be, and the Phil's point that they are more suicidal, unfortunately, nowadays than they were back in the day, back in the 60s or 70s, 70s, you were saying they probably had more reasons to live. But nowadays they're sitting in their house all by themselves in the bedrooms on 4chan, on Reddit and you know, their mental health is way worse.

[C]

It's a bit grim, but someone made an important. It's an important distinction, is typically a shooter is planning on not making it out of the operation versus a bomber. They're planning to go on the run and there's gonna be a manhunt to find them. So that's kind of the distinction is you're dealing with a death cult and ultimately they just want to get out of this world. They feel nothing inside versus a bomber. There's like an ideology. Like you think something's important enough to maybe try and do it again.

[D]

It's like a Bushnell you were talking about earlier today.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Oh, he's going to be remembered forever. I'm going to, you know, myself on fire.

[A]

No, this is, it's an important point.

[C]

The only, the only, the only thing on the left, the only thing they value from young white men is like martyrdom is like the only thing you can provide for the left, if you're like a young white guy, is like suicide for the cause versus the right. They're just like, yeah, we can use you here, we can use you here. Turning Point usa. We'll get you right in here. It's like clockwork. The left's like, you're going to kill yourself, dude. It's the only way to contribute to the movement. And so that's why. Why primarily why it's so I. When they join.

[A]

I'm compiling a list of politically motivated attacks. 2025, and it's already. The list that I've got is insane. Geez, this is bleeding Kansas. The crazy thing is, as we were mentioning like did you guys even know that in Maine someone tried running over a CBP agent. In Chicago, an illegal immigrant tried running over a one one of the ICE guys. So he shot him and killed him. I think that happened in Florida like a day later. So all of these are happening on top of the political violence that's high level. Then you've got the low level riot stuff that often doesn't break to national news. You've got the ongoing riots that are happening in Portland that they just started arresting these people. It's been sustained for some time. You had the ramming in New Orleans.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

Yes, that's right.

[E]

That was on New Year's or right around New Year's.

[A]

Yeah. And you know, we were going to go January. That's where we were planning. My wife and I were planning on going to New Orleans and at the last minute we changed our mind and didn't go. And then we saw the news and we were like, we would literally be right there.

[D]

And didn't that one young kid get run over by that old man up in Washington or something in an alleyway because he was Republican a couple years ago? I think we watched, remember that he got ran over for being a.

[A]

Not.

[E]

I don't know if it was Washington, but there was a kid that got.

[D]

Was up.

[B]

Yeah, I think, I think the, the distinction though is like as you were saying before, it's. They're not organized. They seem to be emotional outbursts which I mean, I had myself in the UK where we were putting up the flags and some guy, literally just some boomer left, abandoned his car on the side of the road, came running over and tried pushing us off a ladder that was like, you know, two to almost three stories high. Luckily we spotted him and we were able to bail to the right which was a grass verge, rather than the left, which was a main road. But if he'd have come up from behind, what was his plan? He was going to knock us off, we hit our head on the road, one of us could have died. He wasn't thinking. It was an irrational emotional moment. I almost felt sorry for the guy because he got himself so wound up. He's clearly so stuck in his head and sort of enthralled by this ideology that he feels like it's worth to just like kind of crash out and break that mundaneness of his life up. They do see themselves as these revolutionaries, particularly that sort of like boomer generation which I saw the guy who tried assassinate in Trump. I think he was actually did he get indicted or like charged?

[A]

Yeah, the Roth.

[D]

Yeah, he or something like that.

[B]

It's like they grew up in like the 70s where like, you know, they were the counterculture, that hippie culture. They believed the world was gonna be John Lennon's Imagine. It's just like, well, you know, reality check that it doesn't work. The world's never going to be like that. But in their head they're still this, like they're, they're sticking it to the man. We're actually like the counterculture is coming from the right, particularly in Europe. And it kind of has happened every now. It's become the mainstream.

[D]

Imagine.

[B]

But again, going back to my previous point, it's not said organized. It's like. Yeah, it's just like.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Yeah, it is lone wolf, like sad attacks of people are probably depraved individuals who actually just need help. Yeah, but how do you get help to those people? Because they sit and they fester and it's all online. They need help.

[C]

Nihilism, which is petrified.

[E]

They need help, but they have to be open to help, which is they.

[B]

Don'T believe they need help. That's the problem.

[E]

Well, I mean, yeah, they, they're not open to being helped. So if, if someone's not going to look, you can, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. Right. You can tell people, look, here's here. This will actually make you feel better. This is actually, these are positive steps that you can do to not feel hopeless, to not feel like there's no, there's no meaning in life. But that doesn't mean they're going to do it. Doesn't mean they're going to take the steps that you're, that you're, that you're recommending. And it's likely that they're going to be hostile to you for recommending it.

[B]

Well, I'm saying like the left is already fairly organized, but they're not organized in a violent way as far as we know right now. Unless I mean this. We'll see what comes of this Charlie Kirk case. Perhaps it was. I know we saw people who allegedly had foreknowledge. Perhaps it was, perhaps it wasn't. We'll see that that would be. If it is organized, that would kind of change the game a little bit.

[A]

So. So this is the list that GPT gave me. The New Orleans ISIS attack, the Coventry, Vermont CBP agent killed by Zizians in May, a Jewish museum shooting from a Pro Palestine motive. June 14, the coordinated shooting of Democratic state legislators. That one's up in the air because that one may have been personally motivated. We don't know for sure. Alvarado was the Prairie Land ice facility ambush. The same day Portland, Oregon was attacking an ICE facility. July 20th in New York, Midtown Manhattan mass shooting at 3:54. Was that really. When was that? Which was that? Trende Aragua. Come on, Google that. Search Google, search, Google that.

[D]

Would you say Manhattan?

[A]

Yeah. July 28th, Midtown Manhattan mass shooting. August 27th was the Annunciation shooting.

[E]

July 28th. That was the dude that ran into the. Went up to the. The 33rd floor or whatever.

[A]

Oh, right, right, right, right. The NFL thing.

[E]

Yeah, allegedly.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, the NFL thing. But that was also a Blackrock building, and he went to a Blackrock office. Oops. Yeah, right. I don't believe it. August 27th was enunciation or a muta. September 10th. That's Charlie Kirk. September 15th, political canvasser was stabbed. Whoa. I didn't know that. September 19th was the ABC station. Whoa. Really? I didn't know about the September 15th attack. And they're. And they're still missing a whole bunch. How. How many?

[B]

Curiosity included more than one perpetrator, though.

[A]

I don't know. The.

[E]

The challenging thing is one of the attacks on the. On an ice facility was like five people.

[A]

It was Black Rock office that was attacked. Right, I forgot about that one.

[E]

That was in midtown New York.

[A]

Yeah, right. And they said it was the NFL, but he was, He. He was in the blackrock office. And they're like, he meant to go to the NFL. I swear, my. I don't. I don't know that I believe that. What's the. What's the obvious? So they are missing one of the. The ice facility attacks truck thing as well.

[B]

That wasn't.

[A]

Oh, yeah, they're forgetting all the Tesla stuff. Where's all the Tesla stuff? I mean, just.

[D]

There's a lot going on.

[A]

We need to get a comprehensive list of all of the terror attacks for this year so we can have this in like a. A Google document database to actually start tracking this because this year has been insane. The terror attacks on Tesla, what was there like 70 of them? And the one guy get.

[D]

Blew himself up. Yeah, reportedly, you know, the. The guy, the. The military guy who's like locked and ready suicide.

[A]

Oh, right, right, right. The last minute Vegas was in and.

[D]

It'S all metal, so it didn't blow up anything. Just blew himself up.

[B]

What's interesting is that when you ask for these statistics, it's like, there's no left wing violent attacks. Like, I see that a lot, and I think there is a certain degree of when things haven't gone fatal. Perhaps it's just been an attack on the street. These things either don't go reported or, like, I've seen it by myself at like, political rallies in the UK that, you know, a leftist might throw something at someone for a rock and it might hit someone that might get hurt, but they don't actually report it to the police because they're like thick skin. You know, I, I want to handle this myself. I'm not. I don't trust the police. I'm not going to file it. So there's. It'd be interesting to see the. The real numbers just behind this sort of low level.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Violence in the streets.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You watch, like, Nick Shirley's video when he, he, like, tracked the ICE raid in Minneapolis, and they were like, going through the street and people were like, pelting the cops with like, trash and rocks and that sort of thing. But since it was such a chaotic environment and ICE was just doing an operation, they're getting in and getting out. There's not like a huge federal police presence. They couldn't make arrest. So all those. I mean, maybe they followed up on it. I'm sure they did. But at least for what the public knows, all that wasn't counted. It's like if you started counting all of these, like, just attacks on officers that are taking place during these ICE raids that we're seeing being documented, like, it would be outstanding, the amount of. The amount of leftist violence.

[D]

That's the councilwoman who, who punched one of the agents.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[D]

She's got in trouble and I forget her name.

[A]

Monica McIver.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

New Jersey.

[D]

So that's another, you know, like, like.

[A]

Can we just stress this when we're, when, when we blame Gavin Newsom for his rhetoric and then the ICE terror attack, we just point out, like, a Democrat in Congress punched a federal law enforcement agent. Like, literally punched him on camera, I think more than once. Yeah. So when they're. I'm just. I don't understand, like, why are we. I'm not even. I'm not even. I don't even. I'm not talking to these people. You know what I mean? They're coming on there being like, no, you understand, we are not for this. Like, shut up. You elected this woman, she went. Punched a guy, and then you lied and claimed she didn't. You put her on cnn, and CNN claims she didn't and we all watched the video. This is insane.

[C]

There's really a slow mo. Yeah, like, see the punch connect and I don't know what, where that fist came from.

[D]

Punches like a girl, by the way.

[C]

She does.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, it makes sense, you know?

[A]

All right, so so far.

[D]

Are we at 20? Got to be close.

[A]

There's. The list is actually really big when you include all of the Tesla stuff. So right now, and this is not even. This is only like 10 minutes. 1, 2, 3. We got 3. In January, we got 6. March was crazy. 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18.

[F]

Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.

[F]

So listen to in case you missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart woman sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast, would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast. In case you missed it with Kristina Williams, the WNBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else.

[H]

It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge.

[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball, plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted, but we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way, and we're hoping to, you know, make a run.

[F]

So listen to, in case you missed it, with Christina Williams, an iHeart woman sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[A]

In 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 20. Oh, okay. No, it's 24. 24. Just on this list so far. Is it more than. Actually, it's more than that. 26. Just on this list that I have so far is 26. And I know it's missing some because I can think of more that it's not pointing out, but I want to get this out there. We need to make a comprehensive list, because when you go through it, it's all leftist. There's not a single instance that I can find of a Trump supporter going and committing some kind of terrorist is pretty crazy. Well, actually, not really crazy at all. If you think about it. It's all leftists, and it's in line exactly with. With, like, the liberal Democratic Party. Hey, we have a statement from. From Comey here. Let's play it. Look at that. Here's. There's. Comey. That's it. That's a statement.

[E]

He's got makeup.

[A]

My family and I have known for.

[C]

Years that there are costs to standing.

[A]

Up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't.

[D]

Imagine ourselves living any other way.

[C]

We will not live on our knees.

[D]

And you shouldn't either.

[A]

Somebody that I love dearly recently said.

[D]

That fear is the tool of a.

[A]

Tyrant, and she's right.

[D]

But I'm not afraid, and I hope you're not either.

[A]

I hope instead you are engaged, you.

[B]

Are paying attention, and you will vote.

[C]

Like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.

[A]

He's right. My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, everything he said so far, but I have great confidence in the.

[B]

Federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.

[A]

So let's have a trial and keep the faith. Cut out the I'm innocent and let's have a trial. The whole statement, I could. I could. I could describe that to Trump and everyone would agree with it.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, the fact that he's blaming it on Trump when it was a grand jury. Right. Like, this isn't right. This isn't a directive by Donald Trump to say, go get that guy. They presented evidence to a grand jury and the grand jury said, okay, we think that there's enough evidence here to indict. So I mean, look, if he's, if he feels comfortable going to trial, then, you know, bully for him. But it'll go to trial and we'll see what an actual jury says.

[B]

What other option does he have other than kind of letting it go to trial? That's his best. It's the most pragmatic thing, not going to go out and say I'm not innocent. He's, he's going to fight his case.

[D]

So, yeah, so they were really happy when the, the grand juries didn't indict other people. They were like, yeah, no, didn't get indicted because they were wrong. Well, he got indicted like you said. So something going on there.

[A]

You know, I hope everybody goes out and votes like their country depends on it because Comey is right, what Comey did. These people are abject evil. And my only fear in all of this is that Trump is not Superman. My fear is that Donald Trump is actually a bit of a hothead and I think he is motivated largely by personal interest and we need to win.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

If people like Comey and his ilk get power once again, they are going to destroy this country. And that's an understatement. I hope you guys like breaking rocks. Cuz we've seen the way these people talk. We saw what they tried to do. We saw what they literally did. They put Trump's lawyers in jail. They said, if you even try to defend Trump, we will send you to prison.

[E]

The fact that they went after his, his lawyers is, is, should be something that makes people take notice. Right? Obviously the far left are gonna, they're gonna say, well, it was the right thing to do no matter what. But the fact that they went after the people that are, that he constitutionally has a right to a defense and the people that were there to provide that constitutionally protected right, they went after them and indicted them and charged them as co conspirators. That's beyond the pale. So I don't, I don't.

[B]

And if they're willing to do that to Trump in a very public facing way, imagine what would go on behind closed doors. Right. Like we see it in the uk, these cases, which they're not high profile people, they're just, you know, guys on the ground, individual activists being pressured into, into a guilty plea of stuff they didn't do and that their lives are ruined and they're kept in awful conditions sometimes kept in solitary because, you know, general population is so hostile towards them. We've got a huge, like, problem with Islamic gangs in the, in the, in the prisons in the uk and if they find out you're a far right racist or whatever they want to call you, they will kill you. Like so. So, you know, you're not just going to a normal prison and you're in solitary. And that could be a reality here where the.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With J6ers especially.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, everybody, we're going to go to your chats and rumble rants. So smash the like button. Share the show if you do like it. Thank you so much. When you guys share it, it really does help. If everybody who watched this show right now shared it on social media, we'd be bigger than Jimmy Kimmel. Actually, we largely are bigger than Jimmy Kimmel. But to be fair, he does get big hits on YouTube. His Trump monologues get, get like a million to 2 million sometimes. But it is what it is. So rumble.com/timcast IRL for the uncensored portion. But for now, we're. Grab your chats.

[E]

Hey, before you jump to that, there's a. USA Today about an hour ago was reporting that NORAD scrambled fighters to intercept Russian planes off of Alaska.

[A]

That happened yesterday, too. Yeah, I thought that was just an, I thought that was an echo.

[I]

No.

[A]

What are they. What do they call that in Minority Report?

[E]

Yeah, I forget what it's called, but yeah, it might have been an echo, but yeah, so they're, they're, you know, there's all this talk about the, the. I think it's whatever, all of the top generals and their staff coming to Quantico next on the 30th. And there's also talk of, of, you know, conflict with Russia. Russia's foreign minister Lava. I think his foreign minister, Lavrov is his name, but he, he was saying that NATO and the United States are already in a war with Russia.

[B]

He says that's true.

[E]

It's true. But this is more just raising the tensions.

[A]

Oh, the, the pizza index is through the roof.

[E]

Yeah, they're, they're.

[A]

Yeah. Hegseth has called in a meeting of, like, all military personnel. Like, let's go, baby. All right, let's.

[E]

So maybe the stuff that's going on in the US Won't matter. Maybe we'll have.

[A]

All right, we got this from P.S. opie says DJT needs to. Need to do an address over all this violence and division. He needs to come out and just call this what it is. He needs to be. He needs to open, transparent and make it clear that now is a time for choosing. The left is doing all the violence this whole year. And when Trump comes out and says that the left is doing violence, they go, how could you accuse us? You're so divisive. It's like, well, because you guys are shooting people.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, he's been good on the issue. Like, better than the entire gop, quite frankly, on the issue. Every time he's had to speak on, he specifically addresses leftist violence. Meanwhile, just find a soundbite from your senator, your congressman. They usually dance around at the political violence.

[A]

Get out there and get in people's faces.

[D]

Would it be beneficial to America if he came out and said, yo, let's just relax, let's chill out a little bit, everyone.

[C]

No, because the right is already chilling and relaxing. The left's killing.

[A]

The right is literally going to Trump being like, please, Trump, just enforce the law. And then they were like, best we can do is a commemorative coin.

[B]

When I was at the.

[A]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's a bad joke, by the way, because Trump's got these executive orders where he's saying, go after antifa. And I do like the idea of putting Charlie Kirk on a silver dollar.

[D]

That'd be sweet.

[B]

Yeah. But I mean, like, when I was at the Charlie Kirk Memorial on Sunday speaking to people, all the speeches were like, we didn't burn down anything. Look at the way we responded. We responded in peace. It's like, great. And then people were expecting Trump to come out with something hard hitting and he really didn't. But already when I was speaking to him, I'm like, do you think Trump's going to come out with anything? They're like, no. So they're already demoralized in that sense and they don't think J.D. vance is even going to. And these are the diehard people. These are the people who are going to come to the events. People flew from all over America to come here. You know, some of them are pretty big donors. And even they're like, he's not doing enough.

[A]

Trump had a Gettysburg opportunity. Yeah. He could have come out and said something very much like, you know, in 250 years ago or whatever, several men fought against tyranny to birth this great nation, blah, blah, blah. And then he could have said a young man was. But he kind of just went off the cuff and did his Trump thing.

[B]

Talking about autism, Tylenol.

[C]

Well, I mean, it's like we're talking about, we're discussing civil war, all this sort of thing. It's like the margin is actually kind of thin for Trump's speechwriters. Like, he has to actually be somewhat incisive with what he says because, you know, there's a lot of ride or dies.

[A]

So Finz up says it's not rumors. I'm pretty certain he publicly announced he's going to have the DOJ look into Soros. I do not trust Bondi at all, though. She seems easily bought or she's just noticeably dumb. I don't know. Maybe that's why Trump likes her, because he bought her and she's dumb. So he's like doing. She goes, okay. I don't think so, though. I think, I think, I think they know what she's doing.

[E]

Mike Davis actually was tweeting about that. He's like, she's got more balls than all of the guys in D.C. combined. And Mike Davis is. I mean, I feel like he's a pretty straight shooter.

[C]

And like, at the end of the day, this is just an upgrade because they listen to Trump. I mean, is. I mean, around here, we remember the first term, how that went. It's like these people listen to Trump and then, do you really wanna go through another nomination process just to get someone that's gonna be just as effective or whatever you think should happen?

[A]

Leatherhead says, did anyone else see Alex Jones's channel is already deleted in YouTube. Indeed. As well as Nick Fuentes'. And then YouTube issued a statement saying, wait, wait, we said we were gonna unban people, but not yet. And so what are they waiting? I think they're actually lying and sent that letter to Jim Jordan just so that he would shut up. And he posts it and they're like, oops. All right. St Miles says Trump will have set the precedent to go after Democrats should they ever come into power. Yep.

[D]

Yeah, that makes a good point.

[A]

All right, Finz up says the difference is you have money to protect yourself and your family. ICE agents don't have that same luxury off the clock. They're on their own on the clock. Their family isn't safe. That's a great point. How much money do you want in exchange for someone threatening to murder your wife and child and hunt you down in of front flay you alive? How much money you. You, you give me that number, I will give it to you and I will quit right now. You let me know and then we, we can have you guys like this is this Is this, this is insane. The idea that there's any amount of money that anyone would accept to, to, to take these death threats is just, I, I, you know what? Maybe y' all are right because it seems to be the general opinion that everybody has the money is worth it to have to live in a box.

[D]

They've been saying this stupid argument for years and makes zero sense.

[A]

Max says, tim, you're wrong. These guys aren't like you. They can't afford 247 security like you can to protect their family.

[D]

And.

[E]

Okay, my 24. 7 security is myself.

[A]

Let's, let's, let's try this. I will give someone $1 million and it will make it a game show. And then we have the entirety of the left. There will be, you know, I don't know, 3,000 people online in any given day saying they're coming for you to kill you and posting your address, going on shows, lying about you. And your goal is to figure out how to use that. Oh, guess what? All that money, it's going towards your security. Your movement is restricted. You can't travel, you can't go to funerals, but it's okay. Cause you know, you have the money. I guess. Was the money worth it? I'm pretty sure that if you go to the average person and say, we're giving you a million dollars, but you'll be hunted down and everyone will be trying to kill you, they're probably going to be like, no, I don't, I don't know that I want that. I don't, I don't, I don't know. Some people might say yes and then immediately be like, the sort of Damocles was too great and I regret my decision, but I am seeing a lot of this and I will make this wager with all of you. I will donate all of my money to charity and quit tonight if that's genuinely how everyone feels. Because I got to tell you, I am perfectly happy living in a bungalow. I say van down by the river. Now say a bungalow down by the river. I don't need that much money. I can pay a couple grand mortgage and I can easily do behind the scenes social media marketing work for, I don't know, 90,000 a year somewhere and be perfectly happy playing online poker or something.

[E]

You shouldn't let the chat decide because the chat is full of trolls.

[A]

These aren't people trolling. These are routine super chatters saying that I should accept that because I have money, I should have to live under the threat of death from the far left on a regular basis when I would much prefer not to have that risk at all. And I'm being told that our own law enforcement, who chose to go into direct conflict with terrorists should be afforded more protections than I. Or maybe that's not a fair assessment, but that I should accept the circumstances and the money that comes along with it will pay for the security. While I'm restricted from man. When I was working for, like, when I was working for some of these other companies, like Vice, for instance, and I got to fly, I was on a flight twice a week and 60,000 followers or whatever, getting paid six figures. I didn't have anything to worry about. I don't think people understand that. But Charlie Kirk is dead. He died. They killed him. You know, you do it because you.

[B]

Love it though, right? Like, you do it because you feel like you have a sense of duty to speak about things. And like, you know, from the moment you put your face out there, you know what the political climate's like, you know, that somebody's going to come and target you. And that's something that you have to accept. I think. I think, like, you know, the money.

[F]

And everything aside, would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

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[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to In Case youe Missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. That's, there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

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[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

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[B]

I didn't like the sort of notoriety, whatever. Of course, past a certain point, you don't want to exchange your freedom for that and your sort of, your, your personal safety. But I think you knew coming into the game when you first decided to go and speak out, you were going to go get some backlash.

[A]

No.

[B]

You didn't. No, when I went full.

[A]

I didn't, I didn't, I didn't start this as a partisan.

[B]

Yeah, I know. I mean, initially. But when you did kind of cross the Rubicon, so to speak. So I remember that when I used to watch it. But took that transition. You must have.

[A]

There was no transition.

[B]

You must have. Well, you weren't explicitly pro Trump initially, right? Correct. You saw the responses, people calling for Trump stuff even prior to his election. You saw the response from the left towards these sort of more conservative pundits, people who were aligned with Trump. You knew that they were vicious. You could have foreknowledge.

[A]

I went skating at MLK Plaza in Berkeley and Antifa posted my picture on forum saying that I was a Trump supporter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whether I was or I wasn't, I didn't go online and make videos saying, here's what's going on and here's how the news media works. So that Antifa would post my image and threaten to beat me up. And then a bunch of people threatened to attack me until one guy said, lay off him and don't start flights at the skate park.

[B]

But I mean just. Just being in the public realm in general. People like will like someone killed John Lennon. Right. Like John Lennon. Right. Maybe he's not the best example because political side. But people will try and like kill celebrities for feminist variety being in the public eye. I. I suppose it does come with a certain level of calculated risk.

[A]

I don't think when Charlie Kirk walked out in Orem, he didn't think he was going to die.

[B]

I think he was fully prepared to. I mean, they showed at the memorial. He said, thy will be done to God. Thy will be done. It was very religious.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But he was willing to die for that. That's why he remained on college campuses despite having this multi. Multimillion dollar organization which was able to.

[A]

That's kind of a crazy thought if you think about it. Like he was willing to die and his wife and children were also there as well. In this area where he has to have security is a great risk to him and his family for what he was willing to do. Yeah.

[B]

And that's.

[A]

I wish more people were willing to do that, to be completely honest. Well, I mean, I feel like incredibly.

[B]

Hard thing to do. But those are the people who move civilization on the Founding Fathers. Everyone has something to lose. Right. You have to go across the Rubicon. You have to be a man of action. You have to accept that I'm going to do something that is potentially going to make my life and the people I love's life very, very difficult. Difficult. But my love for my country, my love for my cause is far exceeds that. I think that that's a position that the founding Fathers. Yeah. Very similar.

[A]

Who.

[B]

Most of them were very young men. Actually think the average age of Founding father was at 22 or something like that.

[A]

No, no, no, no. Yeah, it was like late 20s, early 30s. But there Ben Frank was a little older and then there were some younger.

[C]

Guys like 18 or something.

[A]

But there were the. Some of the founding Fathers. Their children were captured. One guy's wife was taken from him. One guy's kid betrayed the family and to serve the crown. And there are men in this country who know that they will step into the fray and this will put not only their lives at risk, but their blood, treasure, honor and family. That's what the Founding Fathers were willing to do. I wish we had more men like that in this country.

[B]

I think it's a very Christian thing. It's a very Christian thing of being able to. You're willing to die. And this is the whole death to the World thing. It's easier said than done.

[A]

But you don't do things that will increase your risk of death.

[B]

Perhaps you do. I mean, that's what St. Paul did. That's what the apostles did. They went out.

[A]

Even their families, 11 of them died.

[B]

Yeah, they were persecuted. I know.

[A]

It's a horrible thing. No one, no one, no one should ever do anything that's going to put their, their wives and child at risk. Even if they're law enforcement, they should wear masks.

[B]

Supposed to be some, like, unit class of people who are that politics is reserved for them because they don't have any attachments.

[A]

They sort of like, yes, these guys that are in ICE should wear masks and hide so their families are not put at risk. Well, yeah.

[B]

I mean, otherwise you're not going to get people to do the job. I mean, Trump is coming on a policy.

[A]

Some men are not willing to risk their honor, family or otherwise.

[B]

I'm in the uk. I get ads to join ICE every single day. I'm not even able to because I'm not a resident here. But they clearly don't have enough manpower. Right. To do this and already drop that manpower. And the fact that a lot of the reason that the deportations aren't going as high as they hoped is I think it's a manpower issue. That's why they're doing such a massive recruitment to. That's why they're doing that. 50k signing bonus. Trump needs to, Needs to deliver on his electoral. Yeah, 50k signing bonus. Yeah. And I think what this is an ad for ice.

[A]

Now, I think people logic there, then that should be made obvious to everybody, is we do not have men of action in this country. The people. The reason why we need masks for ICE is because these men actually don't want to do the job. They do not want to fight for their country. They simply want the paycheck. And they're unwilling to take any risks to themselves, their family. They just want the money.

[B]

I don't think that's a mitigate back on that.

[C]

They're putting their lives on the line. They're going into, like, drug dens.

[A]

They're going, why offer them $50,000 to do that? Like, why do you need to offer 50 grand to somebody to come and take this job to do it?

[C]

Economy is terrible. People got to get food on the table still, like, they got to be able to provide for their families.

[A]

And then my point is it's pretty dang simple. If you're like, listen, I won't do this if there's any risk at all, and I want $50,000. It sounds like you are not someone who says, for my country.

[C]

Well, they're still taking on a lot of risks. The masks are. So they can still do their jobs. Like, it would be. It's more. It would be just terrible for ICE if their agents kept getting mowed down because they're not masking. Like, it's like we're trying to get a job done. We're trying to get all the illegals out. And masking helps push that goal forward. That helps us get closer. They help us move the ball down the field.

[A]

Right. I'm just pointing out that if someone says, I don't want to do the job, how about 50 grand? Sure, I'll do it. But can I wear a mask that no one knows who I am? It's like, that's not somebody who's like, america will stand for eternity.

[B]

I mean, that's protocol. I mean, right now, like, I don't think it's a choice of the individual to not wear a mask. I might be completely wrong, but that's a different argument, I imagine. Right now, it's protocol. But even if you do, like, 50% of these guys, they are willing to have their face out there, take those risks, you're still going to diminish the force which is needed to go and get the job done.

[A]

The job's not getting agree with what I'm saying.

[C]

I'm saying even masked or not, that's still, like, a very noble thing.

[A]

I'm not saying literally every ICE officer hates this country is doing for money. I'm saying the officers that don't want the job but were offered 50 grand and said, okay, I'll take it, but let me wear a mask. Are the people who are just in it for the job?

[B]

I don't think so.

[C]

I think there are people that that's just what gets them over the edge. But I think signing up for ice, period, I'm not even trying to, like, do a rah rah chest beating to, like, dunk on people. I'm just saying, legitimately joining ICE as. As, like, a decision is very noble because it's an inherently dangerous job for the same reason police officers. Like, I don't think. I don't think it's, like, a terrible thing. The NYPD has a little bit better incentives. Like, makes sense. It's a very dangerous city to work in. Like, you got to reward people for, like, the risk they're taking. I mean, I understand, but it's Also, ICE is like, not joining ICE is not great for your lifestyle. Like, you usually have to move to some pretty nasty communities. Oftentimes.

[A]

What is most offensive to me about the general conversation is that, you know, I stumbled into this when I started making videos and doing this. I wasn't making money doing, I was losing money. I left abc, Univision, and I had savings and I was losing money to cover these stories to, you know, travel. To travel to Sweden was a massive loss. Then I started making YouTube videos at a massive loss. I started getting threats from Antifa on the far left the whole time losing money. And it wasn't until like a year and a half later I finally cracked into the black and I was even. And then I started working really hard and making more money. And then with that, I had to hire more people eventually, bring on, you know, security. Then I had to move, get away from the cities. All of which were ancillary to me just speaking out. And then I'm told that. And this happens all the time, how lucky I am for it when I'm like, I just wanted to fucking live in a van down by the river, dude.

[B]

But so, so, like, why did you do that? Why did you change, uproot your whole life, do this in the red? What was the rationale towards that? Like, why?

[A]

Because I don't care about money. I care about country.

[B]

Okay, so you, you put the country before the money, but did you not also consider, like, and other people won't.

[A]

And I'm told I should have to, while other people don't. I ask for a few good men to stand up, wave the flag and say, I will die for my country. And then I'm told, no, Tim, no, Tim, you're wrong. Other people shouldn't have to do that. No one should take a risk. They should do a job and get paid 50 grand to do it. And I'm like, okay, maybe I shouldn't do this.

[C]

They're not taking risks, pundits. They're just guys with a very simple job, which is, I think, to them.

[A]

Is substantially less in the broad sense in the. In the immediacy of the job of ice. They face tremendous risk that I do not, which I have tremendous respect for, which is why they carry guns. They have armor, protocol, APCs, helicopters, all that good stuff. And that is, that is an incredibly important job. And I'm glad people are doing it. If the argument is in the greater sense, I should be willing to accept threats and death threats and all that stuff. My simple statement Was, maybe I shouldn't do this. I'll make an AI channel with a V2.

[B]

These ICE guys are still part of that risk is they get doxed. Right. They're wearing masks on the job, but there is still a risk that someone speaks to somebody else. He's an ICE officer and his doc still gets out there. That risk is still there. Wearing the. Wearing that mask is just risk mitigation. The same way that if you, you know, have security, that's risk mitigation, which is completely.

[A]

Completely.

[B]

They're still putting themselves out there.

[A]

Completely. Agreed. Point taken. And my point is, like me, Benny, Ruben, we should all ICE our channels, make new ones, which we want to do then. Okay, let me finish. ICE our channels, make AI Personas masked, no names that can share these messages. The message is successful and will reach a broader audience. But then no one will know who we are and we'll be safe.

[B]

If that's what you wanted to do, I'm sure you could do that today.

[A]

Charlie Kirk would be alive. Right?

[B]

He would. And would he have the same impact? Would he have reached as many people? No, no, of course not. People buy. People buy ideas from people. People want to want that parasocial relationship of, you know, going and watching your show, feeling like they know you. Yeah. Kind of growing that thought process with you consuming the news at the same time as you. That's a human interaction, like AI and faceless content can't replace that. These guys are successful.

[A]

I don't think there is a personality that got into this for the. Well, I don't think there's a personality on the right that got into this business hoping to form parasocial relationships with people so that people would like them and follow them.

[B]

No, no, no, of course not. That's not the intended effect on the left.

[A]

I think it's basically all of that. But.

[B]

But I mean, like, like, like, you see, when you were trying to get into the black, as you were discussing earlier, you will want. You obviously needed to work harder. What are working harder consists of, I imagine it putting out more content, putting higher quality content out, and also sort of building your Persona as an online figure. Putting out more tweets, putting out more content, because that parasocial relationship that you create then leads to success. Right. Whether you're aware of that or not, that is the reality. Right. People know Tim Pool. Right. They want to hear your opinion on things. They want to. They value you.

[A]

I understand that.

[B]

I'm not saying that you wanted that private social relationship from a point of View.

[A]

I am no ch. I'm Charlie Kirk. I am no Donald Trump. I am no J.D. vance. I don't wanna be in charge. I don't wanna be a leader. I don't wanna run for office. I don't wanna have an organization backing me with tons of people. I just have ideas. And I wanted to talk about what I see. And largely I wanted to complain about how the media lies to everybody all the time and correct that. And that's what I wanted to do. And it is getting increasingly dangerous. And I think that may be a principal component. Why I probably get more death threats than most other people is that I pull up the sources on every story, we break it down, and then explain why this is fake. From the mainstream media. With no disrespect to the conservative side. They're largely just proselytizing conservative values, which is very effective and good for their side. And I'm not saying that disrespectfully, but as a threat to the left, it is much less threatening. When a man in a suit says, you know, Christ is king. Here's why, and they say, that's not gonna sway any of our people. But when I, an urban liberal from Chicago, say, here's the Wall Street Journal and the Hollywood Reporter, proving the FCC did not play a role, a principal role, in taking down Jimmy Kimmel and the narrative from the left is fake, they go, he's our shit up, so kill him. And then. So, you know, I am wholly jealous to seeing how many people got to go to Charlie's memorial. And I'm like, I can't.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Because the death threats, there were, like.

[B]

So many high profile people there that. Security.

[A]

Yes. Some of them had secret service level security and were backstage. I was not afforded that privilege.

[B]

You could have. You could have gone to the floor at least. Like, there was, like, security all over there.

[A]

I did not have Carl Rittenhouse. I did not have. I have a security team. I have a security team that did an assessment and determined that the threats were legit and too serious for me to go to Phoenix.

[B]

Okay, well, there were guys on the floor who didn't have, like, any. Carl Rittenhouse was walking about.

[A]

That's amazing. What's your security experience?

[B]

Well, I used to work in the security industry.

[A]

You're former military and intelligence, and you've got a team of like.

[B]

I used to work. Work with a company which did CPO task. There would have been a risk assessment, if that's the risk. And the risk assessment was you can't go in, then. Fair enough.

[A]

Recommend against travel, because certainly the event is secure, but we can't secure the city. So we can confine you to your hotel. That's the smartest and best way to do it. And I said, that sounds miserable. And they were like, you still have the threat risks from transport to and from. We're going to bring food to your hotel. We're going to check that for you. It'll be. It'll. I'll be. And I'm like, this is crazy. I don't want. I don't want to. I don't want.

[B]

Yeah, but what I'm saying, like, the, The. You would have been able to. But it wouldn't have been a nice, like, holiday. You wouldn't have been able to go out and go. Go to a bar and go have a drink. Like, I completely get that.

[A]

But. Yeah. And it's like 30 grand to do.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

Which is abhorrent. Right. That's the reality that we live in, in America and in the west in general now. And that's a. It's a very sad thing, but it shouldn't deter you.

[A]

And do you have $30,000 for me to hire security so I can do shit like that?

[B]

No, but I feel like if you. If you have the resources to do it and you feel I don't, it matters. Well, that's kind of. I mean, it's a personal judgment call, I guess, at that point.

[A]

It's not. When we did, when we went to Des Moines, we were there with Vivek, and I think, candace, that cost 50, $60,000 in security.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We had swatted 15 times. And I think people don't realize this. It never stopped.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We just have security now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We've got a security perimeter. We have armed guards. We have other security that I don't discuss. We're getting robot dogs.

[D]

I heard that was in the works. I'm excited.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I'm not trying to downplay the threat to your life, but I'm saying that if you kind of let them confine you to your spot, I feel maybe it's just kind of my defiance and I. I don't have a family in the way that you do that. They win if you stop going to places they win. They're getting what. What they want. That. That threat level that's stopping you from meeting people, being on the ground.

[E]

No, what they want is from him to stop talking.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

So.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, him continuing to do the show is making sure that they don't win.

[B]

Yeah, but, but, but at the same time, they don't want you to continue to be out mingling with people where you could, could get, get further organized. There could be other, other I disagree relationships. You could.

[A]

I think they want me to because that's where they can kill me.

[D]

He gets the most off of online through YouTube and rumble just like that's his furthest reaches.

[A]

I don't think I get the most out of every obviously Trump.

[D]

No, no, I'm just saying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

More actually on the corner of a.

[D]

Street on Charlestown on a soapbox. You get more influence here than you do.

[A]

There's a reason why I mostly just hang out casinos and people are always like, you know, I know not everybody, but people are like, oh, Tim's talking.

[B]

About going to casino.

[A]

Yes. Because I don't die there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's because pretty much the only place that I can sit down and mind my own business is a casino. Because they all know me. They. When you. Typically when you're, when you're a high profile individual, you walk into any casino, security immediately flags you. And they got cameras everywhere. So when I go to a casino, I can walk around without security and have to worry about it. But when I go out in the street, you, you, you, you, you just don't know. I mean, the, the incidents that people knew about we had that year where we were swatted 15 notable times, that wasn't the total amount that we actually had to deal with it. People think that means cops are kicking our door every time. It doesn't. It meant that the cops were doing sweeps basically all the time. One credible threat resulted in us evacuating the studio for three hours. And everyone remember it was chair cast and it was 40,000 people watching an empty room. And then at one point you see the little dog walk in and they did the bomb sweep. And there are locations that we've tried to obfuscate through your typical legal means, which I won't get into detail on, but owning property through obfuscation to prevent security. And they found us and we got swatted there and armed men with rifles came, surrounded the building. And this is like, it's an incessant, constant thing. We've had, I think, three instances of the bomb squad deploying robots because the tactics they use. There are means by which I shouldn't get into the full details. Let me just put it simply that there are ways that these people use that force evacuations and bomb squads, legitimate credible threats. And we had people who are leaking information to antifa and far leftist infiltrators. Really, really crazy. Crazy. And it's, it's, it's not stopped. We just pay more and more money.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To deal with it.

[B]

Well, I think like going back to what we're saying before is that, you know, they want you to stop. I think it is kind of making your quality of life so bad that you have to leave the house with, you know, masses about, of armed security and do all these like risk assessments before going anywhere. And then.

[F]

Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's, there's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge.

[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball. Plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to In Case youe Missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart woman sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year?

[G]

I wouldn't say anything is a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously the goal is a championship. That's. There's no doubt in that. And that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge.

[F]

That we have for all the biggest stories in women's basketball. Plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars.

[I]

So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run.

[F]

So listen to in case you missed it with Christina Williams, an iHeart woman sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and entertainment on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[B]

Some point you might go, well, I kind of just want a normal life with my wife and kids, you know, like, that is what it is. So. But it's also like, it's incredibly difficult. I don't. I don't envy you at all.

[A]

Don't layer. Layer on top of it. The Stop whining, Tim, you're rich. Layer on top of it. Stop being a little bitch.

[B]

The cost of these things are far higher than the average person anticipates. I think the cost of security.

[A]

And I'd much rather live in a van down by the river. Now I got a wife and a child, and there's gonna be some more coming soon. And so bungalow, middle of nowhere, some chickens. I could do online work and easily, if I was doing standard marketing stuff, I'd probably make half a million a year working four hours a day. With my understanding of Internet structures and all that stuff, I could easily do consulting work and probably make way more doing something else than this. And so the challenge is always. And as it has been, the intense security risk that we face is a tremendous stress. And it's not just me, but largely my wife.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

And trying to deal with a new baby. And so one of the reasons why I'm going to be 40 and just had my first kid is exactly all the problems that I've discussed. And then the challenging thing in all of this, and let me just be a whiny little bitch, because I don't care what people think. That's why I, unlike many other people, often just literally say exactly what I'm thinking, much to my own detriment. But people will make comments, and it doesn't mean all that much to me when people rag on me on the Internet. I got millions of followers. But to point out the people who have been constantly chatting things like, stop being a little baby, Tim. Start having a family. What's wrong with you? All of those kinds of comments supposedly coming from people who are supposed to be on my side when the reason we're strained and struggling to do it is because people are trying to murder me and it's maybe we quit, shut it all down. That way we can have a family and live a normal life. Or we have to try and figure out how we balance making enough money to cover the cost of security so that we can live somewhere where we're not gonna be murdered. And then it is incredibly difficult to do that. And so I've said it before, my wife's attitude is probably just when are you going to quit? So we can stop having to worry about dying all the time. And I don't know, it's like you layer on that there's a tremendous respect for all the people who join the Discord server, who are members, who do watch every single day, who buy the products we promote, who are very much into it. And I look at that and it's not a human thing. You know, when, when I see coffee sales, I go, wow, did you guys know we did 2 million in Casper sales last year? That's not profit, that's total sales. Still really good. And then I'm like, people really believe in us and care about what we do. And that number is, it means a lot, but it is just a number. It's not, it's not an individual saying, you know, we respect you and we appreciate what you do. I do get those as well. Don't get me wrong. So largely what we have in terms of encouragement is knowing that when people believe in us, they watch our shows, they buy our products, they're saying, keep doing what you're doing, don't give up. And that tremendously outweighs the negativity, but the negativity is there. The stop being a pussy bitch. Tim, what do you have to worry about? You're rich. And coming from like accounts that I know and, you know, insulting me and like, not having a kid soon enough and me trying. I would argue that most of the PR advice that I get from people is to pretend, fake it and shut up. And that's why when you watch any other show, they never talk like I'm talking now. Yeah, no one will say this stuff.

[D]

The only person who does.

[A]

Yep. And I get. It's bad for me, I guess, because what, what works business wise in media, there's. There's a couple big strategies. One, it's be fake. Make a plastic Persona that exists on camera and then be completely different off camera. Whoever you are on camera is not who you are behind. Once you're off, you go, you hide. And I'm like, well, I don't know. I don't really do that. The Other thing is who you are doesn't matter. Say whatever you have to say to get clicks. And that's principally the left. That's what they do. There are a few people on the right who have been going real ham at it lately, especially the Charlie Kirk conspiracies. The views they're getting are massive. But, you know, long story short, I get emotional when people are like, you know, you should experience the death threats and the risk to your family, which is 1,000 times greater than the average person even in law enforcement. And I'm like, I respect what law enforcement does tremendously. I understand the threats against them, but I just wish more people were willing to be like, I will not be, be, be threatened in that way. But anyway, we're gonna go to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on X and Instagram. Timcast. Join [e-mail] by going to timcast.com and clicking join us. And that Rumble only premium call in show is going to [e-mail] Timcast IRL Joseph, do you want to shout anything out?

[B]

Yeah, if we can shout out Twitter. We're Flagforce uk. That's our organization. We've been putting up flags across the country. Might get into that a little bit later on. My personal Twitter is JWMolton. That's m o u l t o n gc on on x as well.

[A]

So right on.

[C]

You can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown and go to the Culture War channel and see my interview with Rudyard Lynch. It was all about Civil War?. It's fantastic. Go check it out.

[D]

It's always a good seeing right here. I always enjoy him when he's on the show. Yes, guys, my name is Raymond G. Stanley Jr. You can find me an exit Raymond G. Stanley. Find me anywhere in the world. God bless America. God bless our troops. God bless ice agents.

[B]

Phil.

[E]

I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. You can follow the band on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify and Deezer. Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

[A]

We will see you [e-mail] Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. Thanks for hanging out. Whatever team Fee is on has a chance to win a championship.

[F]

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[H]

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[F]

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