
Phil, Tate, & Raymond are joined by Terrence K. Williams to discuss Trump exposing 275,000 illegal immigrants were receiving social security payments, Gavin Newsom calling for a special election to redistrict in California, DC beginning to clear...
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The sea the White House was celebrating the 90 90th anniversary of the Social Security act today. They were focusing on the fact that they have passed a bunch of changes in the big beautiful bill. No tax on Social Security for seniors. They've removed something like 275,000 illegal aliens from the system. And there was 1.12.4 million names over 120 years old. Some I think were even over 150 years old. So we're going to talk about that a little bit. Newsom is still running the President Trump playbook. He's talking about changing the whole makeup of the, the, the, the House of Representatives and it's going to change the presidency and they're going to impeach Trump and he's just running for president so he's just trying to get eyes on himself. So we'll talk about Newsom a little bit more. DC has moved into clear homeless encampments and we've got a bun about that. The Smithsonian is revamping all of their, all of this stuff basically in, in the Smithsonian Smithsonian and sparked controversy with Jillian Michaels on cnn allegedly defending white people, something like that. So we'll get into it. And SCOTUS has allowed age verifications on social media pages. So we'll talk about that. But first we're gonna have you guys head on over to cast brew.com and I want you to buy some coffee. All right. We've got Josie' blend is available now. It's brand new so you should buy it to try it out. You can get two weeks till Christmas, which is the, the blend that I am featured on Ian's Graphene Dream is available. And then the big seller, Appalachian Nights, we've got K cups, got all the stuff you need. So head on over to casprew.com and buy yourself some coffee. It's the coffee that I drink every morning and legit it is good. I'm not saying that just because I'm here. Then head on over to Timcast.com and become a member so that you, you can join our discord. You can come to the after show. You can call in from the, you can talk to our guests, you can talk to the people here on the panel and you can also jump into a bunch of different rooms in the discord. You can meet new people, you can find like minded individuals because what we're trying to build here at Tim Cast Media is community. All right, so it's important that you guys go and join the discord by joining timcast.com becoming a member@timcast.com also head on over to rumble.com and become a member of Rumble. So that way you can join us in the after show where we are uncensored. We're not limited by the things that YouTube is allowed to allows us to say. We can say whatever we want. Sometimes it'll get a little dirty. Sometimes we'll have funny stuff. But you should definitely join rumble.com but before we do want you to head over to timcast.com become a member. All right. Share the show with all of your friends and to joining us tonight to discuss this and a whole bunch more is Terence Williams.
Terence Williams
Thanks for having me on. I'm Terence Williams. I'm a comedian and the founder of Cousin T's Pancakes. Cousin T's foods. Happy to be on.
Phil Labonte
Awesome. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. Raymond G. Stanley's here.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Hey, guys, what's going on? It's right. Magic Stanley Jr. I am the local blue collar devil dog here. Cousin T. My very first cousin. My very first appearance was here was with yourself. And out of my 15 to 20 appearances, you're on three. So it's good to see all. Yeah, man.
Terence Williams
That's because we cousins.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I love. Exactly.
Tate Brown
Tate producer Tate here. Tate Brown holding it down. How are we doing today? I'm looking at the fried chicken mix there. I'm on a cut right now. So seeing that is pretty soul crushing. But now I know the first thing I'm gonna have.
Terence Williams
You know, I have a keto fried chicken coming out.
Tate Brown
Is that real it's gonna be a.
Terence Williams
Low carb, low calorie keto fried chicken.
Tate Brown
Oh, my goodness. Well, I'm gonna make some calls.
Phil Labonte
How much cardio are you doing?
Tate Brown
If you're cutting too much.
Phil Labonte
Too much?
Tate Brown
No, just kidding. Three miles. It's not, it's not bad.
Phil Labonte
That's not a lot.
Terence Williams
You gotta do five, ten. You need to do 10,000 steps a day.
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is key, especially at your age. Yeah, I'm 24. I should be like in the prime right now.
Phil Labonte
So you are.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You are in the prime.
Tate Brown
Not yet the prime. Everyone should get ready, though. As soon as I get some of that keto fried chicken mix, the prime will be over for you.
Terence Williams
Let go those prime cheeseburgers.
Tate Brown
That's right.
Phil Labonte
All right, so we're going to get into it. Donald Trump was in the White House today talking about all of the wonderful things that he has been able to do for the Social Security system. Because the Social Security Act is 90 years old today. The anniversary was today. So we're going to go ahead and listen to what President Trump had to say. Last month I signed one big beautiful.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Bill and allowed no tax on Social.
Phil Labonte
Security for our great seniors.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Okay, so how's that?
Phil Labonte
Not bad, right?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
No tax on Social Security for our seniors. And to protect our benefits, we've already kicked nearly 275,000 illegal aliens off of the Social Security system. These are people, many of them have already left the country and yet we were sending them checks all the time. And 275,000, and that number is now.
Phil Labonte
Even larger than that, Frank.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It's an unbelievable job. And what that's doing is making the system strong. It's making it strong. Biden never kicked anybody off. Everybody joined and we're carrying out historic deportations to remove many more illegals committing Social Security fraud. It's the Social Security fraud that was taking place at levels that nobody's ever seen.
Terence Williams
We cleared 12.4 million names listed in.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
The Social Security database over 120 years of age.
Phil Labonte
Think of that.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So we had 12.4 million names where they were over 120 years old.
Phil Labonte
Sounds like you should be out.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's a hell of a statement. I have a feeling, Dan, that's not really going to.
Terence Williams
That really didn't happen, did it?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So you have 12.4 million names listed.
Terence Williams
In the Social Security database that were.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Over 120 years of age, meaning you were breaking records. Because I've never heard of anybody at 125. There were nearly 135,000 people listed who were over 160 years old and in some cases getting payments. So somebody's getting those payments, and we're after that.
Phil Labonte
So this is one of the benefits of the big, beautiful bill. Apparently, he had the ability to take all these names off the Social Security rules. This is something that I can't imagine how Democrats will, will spin this to be a bad thing. But I think that they're, they're likely going to try. But I just like the, the crime in D.C. it's one of those things where Democrats really, they can't. So do you guys, do you guys figure that they're going to try and spin this as bad, or do you think that they're going to just say that, that they're, they're hurting people? Because that's the argument that I've heard in the past is, oh, they're going to, they're taking Social Security from people that need it.
Terence Williams
They're going to say that Trump is lying. They're going to say he doesn't have proof. They're going to demand to see the, this list in the names and how much money they were receiving. Then they're going to make up a lot. Then they're probably going to. I think they're going to manufacture a crisis. They're going to say, Trump accidentally kicked a bunch of Americans off of Social Security. And they're going to have.
Phil Labonte
That deserve.
Terence Williams
Yes.
Phil Labonte
Should have been there.
Terence Williams
Yeah, that should have been there. And he mistaked them for an illegal immigrant and this poor lady. And they're going to have. They're going to pay people to lie for. I lost my Social Security after Trump made that statement, right before he made that statement. And they're gonna make up stuff.
Phil Labonte
Is that gonna fly with the American people? Because I think that this is one of those, those topics that Americans kind of know. Like, if you pay attention to politics, they know that Social Security is insolvent, and they know that, and they generally. It's nonpartisan to agree that Social Security fraud is bad.
Tate Brown
Yeah, I mean, I remember at the State of the Union address, Trump presented these findings for the first time, if I remember correctly, a few Democrats, you know, there's like, in the State of the Union, it's all about who stands up and who doesn't for certain things, depending what your constituents want. But I remember when he was reading off those numbers, a lot of Democrats were like, yeah, this is actually pretty. This is pretty bad. This is a really bad look. Yeah, I mean, I think those numbers are Correct. That Doge did a. Did a number on Social Security fraud, and it was really extensive. And yeah, the American people, there's a real anxiety with younger Americans, especially that we're not even gonna see our Social Security. So I think any attempt to shore up and guarantee that or squeeze out any longevity out of Social Security is gonna go over really well.
Terence Williams
Well, I don't think young, Young Americans, a lot of young Americans, especially this new generation, they're not thinking about Social Security right now. Not really young ones. If you're talking about kids that are like 18 and up, you know, 8, like 18 to 25. I know when I was 25, I wasn't thinking about Social Security. I was having got my check, I said, where all this money going? Social Security. I don't want Social Security. Give me my money. I got bills to pay. But, you know, I do appreciate that we like, I am, I am glad that they caught this fraud, but I want to see some people arrested for this. Who. Who are the people that were cashing these checks? Okay, and if they, if these were illegal immigrants collecting Social Security, how do we know that these were not some crooked Americans coming up with fake Social Security numbers collecting these fake checks?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
To be devil's advocate, real quick, he's saying that the names were on the list. They're not saying that they're receiving benefits. Yeah, it could have just been a bug. It could have just.
Terence Williams
Oh, so they were not receiving benefits.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
According to like Al Jazeera and these terrible news sources. I apologize. Watching posts are saying, and folks are saying they were not actually receiving them, but the names are on the list, which they could have received them. Nobody knows.
Phil Labonte
I know even, even Donald Trump in particular clip, he said that there were. Some of them were receiving checks. So there's 12.4 million names over 120 years old. Likely. What that is is it's just they haven't cleaned them up. So it's, it's inefficiency. And it's not actually 12.4 million people that are committing fraud.
Terence Williams
How do we know that it's something that they actually haven't cleaned up? Because it's 120 years old. How do we know that there are not people in government making up that like, like they found, like, I'm pretty sure someone that's working in government already knew this was going on. He said, wow, all these people collecting checks and they don't even know about it. And he checks, oh, well, maybe I'll start collecting this check of this person who Died a hundred years ago. Somehow funnel the money here or make up some stuff. I don't know. But I doubt that nobody knew about this. Somebody knew about this.
Phil Labonte
I mean, yeah, that's, that's.
Terence Williams
And they kept their mouth shut because they were collecting that money too.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's deep hole.
Phil Labonte
I don't, Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think that we have, we don't have any evidence of that being the case now. I'm not saying that it's not possible. And, and you know, in this clip, like I said, Donald Trump, It's a conspiracy.
Terence Williams
You don't have the evidence.
Phil Labonte
Donald Trump, even, even Donald Trump said that there were people that might be collecting the checks. And I think this is actually just cleaning up the rules because there's a significant difference between 275, 000 illegals and 12.4 million names over 120, 20 years old. You know what I mean?
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Tate Brown
So, yeah, I mean we saw it. We do see identity theft all the time. With Social Security numbers in which you have the Social Security death index. A name will go on there that they're dead. The Social Security number is cleared, but it takes a little while for that record to be formally updated. And then someone that's here that's illegally will take that number, use it for E verify. Use it for something else. Presumably in this case Social Security benefits. It happens a lot. So with the amount of illegal immigrants that are in this country and there's a lot of really reputable organizations that estimate the numbers far higher than 12 million. I mean, a couple million illegals on Social Security is probably an undercount, if anything. I mean, there's probably a lot of. Think about the amount of people working using E Verify. You can see it firsthand. People in the comments will have anecdotes of people bypassing here's verification.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I worked for the state of Pennsylvania. I did welfare for a year and a half during COVID And we wouldn't get people's debts. Like sometimes it'd be like a year out. So we wouldn't know that they'd be. Still be sending them their, you know, their food stamps or whatever the ma medical for, for a year out until we put them in the system. Be like, hey guys, this person's deceased.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. And all it takes is someone with power of attorney to cash a check for someone that's passed away. You know, if you, if you, if your family member passes away and they had given you power of attorney or.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You have or even if you have the card. Yeah, if you have the card, you could do whatever.
Phil Labonte
You just grab it and use it yourself is possible. There's definitely fraud. I mean, and I don't think that anyone's arguing that there isn't fraud in the, in the system. I think that that's specifically what this is supposed to be countering. You know, that's the reason for, for this, that, that stuff in the big beautiful bill was to get rid of this stuff. I think that it's, it's one of those things that your average American is going to say, yeah, this is a good thing. I don't, I can't imagine anyone on, you know, any, any whatever your political opinion is, no one's going to say, oh, this is, this is perfectly fine.
Tate Brown
Well, I mean, deportation of all illegals, full stop, is a winning issue.
Phil Labonte
Yes.
Tate Brown
Anyway, just polling wise. So it's like 55% of Americans support all legals being deported. So it's like, I mean, this is a layup. The support for not paying illegals Social Security. Yeah, that's gonna be very high. We're talking high 70.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, Democrats have been on the wrong side of 80, 20 issues for at least the past year and a half, regularly, consistently. And a lot of it's driven by the fact that it's just Donald Trump that's bringing these issues up or that it's Republicans that are talking about him. And the Democrats seem to have this need to just oppose Donald Trump regardless of whether or not it's something that the American people want, regardless of whether or not it's something that's good for them. They think that if I am opposing Donald Trump, this will play in my election. And it doesn't matter if it helps the American people. They've stopped representing Americans and they only represent people that want to oppose Donald Trump, even if it's detrimental to the American people.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
What do you guys think about it's gonna be insolvent in 2034, 2035. And you're saying the young people, they don't care. You know, I mean, I didn't care also as a young kid because you have to pay your bills. Everyone wants buy houses nowadays. You want to start a family. They can't do, they can't afford anything. And then now they're knowing that when they get older, they're not going to have any retirement plan.
Terence Williams
I think young people should care. But now I'm starting to hear a lot of young people say they don't even want to Own a home because it costs too much. They don't want to deal with the maintenance, they just want an apartment. They don't want to own any land. I don't want to own any land. I mean, and then look at, I mean, people get. Well, look what the government is doing. I mean, they've been, they, they have death tax, they have a inheritance tax. Some people get an inheritance and they let it all go because it costs too much to keep it because they get, they're going to get taxed for a death tax. And I mean, it's just so, a lot of young people, they, they don't care. They don't, they don't care. But they should care.
Phil Labonte
They should care because they should care, though. What the federal government is going to do is they're just going to monetize that debt.
Terence Williams
Exactly.
Phil Labonte
Going to take, they're going to just print money to pay the debt. And that's going. If you think the inflation in the past couple years has been bad, wait until they're trying to inflate away 50 trillion or 75 trillion. Because right now it's 37 trillion.
Terence Williams
Yes.
Phil Labonte
By 2033, it'll easily be 60 trillion, 70 trillion, 75 trillion.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
And when they're trying to print enough money to cover that kind of debt, your dollars are going to be literal pennies.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Tate Brown
Well, you're already seeing in Europe what happens when you have massive debt and a declining population is all. The only solution they've come up with is just import as many people from the third world as possible. And so if you are concerned about immigration, the level of immigration to the United States, you do have to balance the books at some point because there's no way around it. It's like they need a tax base if they want to support these massive social programs and Social Security. I mean, that'd be political suicide. To advocate for abolishing or even like doing any really touching it in any way, it's gonna be political suicide. So it's, there's, there's a lot of factors at play and it's like. Yeah, I mean, the only solution these Western governments have come up with so far is just flooding the country with workers.
Phil Labonte
The reason that there has been no fix yet is not because they haven't been able to forecast what's gonna happen. It's because there is no political will. And that's because old people vote and old people don't want their Social Security checks to change. Yeah, it is an absolutely unpopular thing with the, with the Largest portion of the voting population. It's boomers. Right? There's boomers and Gen X. I don't think Gen X has started collecting Social Security yet. But even still, boomers are the ones that are on Social Security. Boomers are the ones that need Social Security. And even though they've paid in X amount of dollars, they're taking four or five times out what they actually paid in, but they'll swear up and down that this is, this is money that I paid in and I deserve this, etc. So they end again, they're the ones that vote. And there's more of them. Yeah, we talk about this all the time. There are fewer millennials than there are Gen X. There are fewer Gen X than there are boomers. There are fewer Gen Z than there are millennials. So there's no tax base. And they don't have the voting power. They don't have the political power at all. Like, even if they all joined together and said, we're going to vote to fix this stuff, the boomers are. There's still enough boomers to say, no, you're not right. We're going to vote for politicians that won't touch.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
They're like Gen Z and Gen Alpha combined.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
The amount of people.
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You know.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, yeah. And Gen Alpha won't be, you know, there won't be enough Gen Alpha voting for another 15 years.
Tate Brown
And you got the, you got the.
Terence Williams
Boomers concerned with Social Security, the Gen X, you know, is it they Gen Z or Gen X?
Phil Labonte
Which one is Gen X is right out. It's Gen X then boomers.
Terence Williams
I can't keep all this Gen Z.
Phil Labonte
Millennials, Gen X than boomers.
Terence Williams
Oh, okay. Well, the really young people, you know. Yeah. Like, their concern is, you know, and a lot of them are in the Democrats hat they do a good job at manipulating Gen Z. Okay. They have gotten a lot of them to hate Donald Trump for absolutely no reason. They can't even explain to you. And most of them, their main concern, some of them is saving Tick Tock. Yeah, Saving Tick Tock. You, the boomers are trying to save Social Security and y' all trying to save Tick Tock. These are, I mean, this, these are two different fights here, you know, but the really important thing is, you know, is, is the future, and Tick Tock is not the future. That should not be the main concern. The social media and hating Donald Trump, like, that is not an issue. Like, you need to be focused on your future, you know, about, about your Social Security and how you're gonna be able to feed your children and, and, and even have a family and take care of, you know, that is what is important. And we gotta get the young people to understand that.
Tate Brown
Well, the thing with Gen Z is you have this generalized nihilism among the entire generation, which is why you see candidates like Zoron get massive support. And it's not even because Gen Z has a particular draw to like Marxism or that sort of thing. It's just Gen zers are so nihilistic and so dissuaded with the system that they've gone radical either way. And there's really like being a. If you're Gen Z and you're a centrist, that's like cringe.
Phil Labonte
Gen Z. When Gen Z thinks of, of someone like Mamdani, they're not thinking of, or when they talk about socialism or communism. Right. They, they're not thinking of Lenin, Mao and Stalin. They're thinking free health care and every, you know, everyone should get health care.
Terence Williams
I'm thinking about Canada.
Tate Brown
Well, and can you.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, they kind of, it's kind of true. And as much as it sounds nice, it's not even working in Canada because Canada has, you know, long, long waits for care and they have, have made medical assistance in dying and, and, and.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
They'Re paying huge taxes, you know.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, they're paying over 50 countries overseas.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Healthcare, paying 53 of their income.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. But I mean, and there are a lot of Gen Z that are like, well, I would pay that if I had health care, if I didn't have to worry about. But the thing is most people in Gen Z don't really need health care. Right. They're mostly, most of the time they're young. Now of course there are people that have chronic illnesses. Of course there are people that do. But people that need health insurance are people that are older because they have, they're the ones that are going to go to the doctor more often. You know, that's, and that's one of the things that if you're going to have a healthcare system, you should be able to say, look, I want a, an inexpensive plan to cover if I break my arm or my appendix needs to come out. You know, something that's not likely going to happen. And it doesn't cost them a ton of money. So that way they don't get, you know, huge bills should there be a big problem. But then that'll help pay for the people that do need care, that have chronic conditions that are, you know, whether they're young people with chronic conditions or they're older people who end up needing, you know, most of your, most of your health care cost in your life comes in the last five, 10 years. You know, that's, that's usually what happens. But that's not what they're hearing or what they're thinking about. When they hear Zoran Momdani talk or any, any, any other one like, you know, AOC or Bernie Sanders, they think, oh, the government should just take care of everybody.
Terence Williams
Yeah, exactly.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
They don't take care of themselves because there's so many, still so much studies out there.
Phil Labonte
There's like 50% of America, 75% of America are overweight. 50% of America is over is obese. That is absolutely absurd.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
And those people themselves, first.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. They have no right to demand that the state take care of their health care, especially when we're $37 trillion in debt.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
So we should pay for everyone's health care when these people don't take care of themselves.
Terence Williams
Yes.
Tate Brown
And you can almost, but you can almost flip the issue where if you, if you're a young person and you're looking at numbers like that, you're looking at a country where 75% of the people are sick, effectively, that's what being overweight obese is. Looking at a country that's racked up 70, $37 trillion in debt, looking at a country with like sky high suicide rates. And they're looking at, and they're saying, why would I ever cast a vote that reinforces this system in any way, any meaningful way? No, I want a Trump, I want a Memdani, I want to throw a brick through the window. And they can do that through. I mean, right now they're using democratic systems to use that. But there's no guarantee as things, you know, decline more and more that, that will still be, there'll still be a civil, you know, option, a civil way out of this, a civil way to express the anger that people are feeling.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So you're saying the future, the future is going to be healthy. Right wingers versus fatty.
Terence Williams
The Democrats facade is free, free, free. Nothing in life is free. Okay, if you want, if you want to eat, go work. Okay, if, if you want a roof over your head, go live with your parents. If you're fortunate to have parents in your life and they let you live there, if you don't have parents, if you don't have nobody to live with, work your ass off and get a, get a job and, and so you can afford to have a home. You know, quit. I want free rent. And I, I have cousins that say it's crazy. I saw one of them posts online. It's crazy that we actually gotta pay, that we actually gotta pay for water, something that we need to live. It's crazy that we actually gotta, we need money to eat. That's so crazy.
Phil Labonte
I was like, people with that mindset, like, I don't want to, I don't want to just say that it's young people because it's not just young people that have that mindset. The people that have that mindset have no relation to what it takes to provide them with the food that they're going to eat. They have no idea how much work, how many human out human hours of work go into making sure that the plumbing works in your building and in your city, how much. I mean, they. I have a, you know, my place in New Hampshire, I got a well and I have to pay a guy to come out if the well, if there's a problem with the well in the, in the city, in municipality you have to pay a little bit, you know, per month for your water. But everything costs something like you were saying.
Terence Williams
Yes.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
And your septic tank too. You just can't poo and it magically disappears. You got to clean out yourself.
Phil Labonte
I mean, I could go out in the woods and dig a hole, but that's an awful thing. And January 3rd at 6 in the morning, you know, especially winter time. Yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Balls out.
Phil Labonte
It's terrible. But. All right, we're gonna, we're gonna get off of this one. We're gonna jump to this story from Gavin Newsom. Live updates. Gavin Newsom calls for special election in California to redraw congressional maps. This is just Gavin Newsom basically announcing that he's going to, going to run for president and, and what he's, he's trying to do is actually generate clicks. So what to note a new new congressional maps. California governor Gavin Newsom called on the state lawmakers to allow a November ballot measure to redraw congressional districts. This is likely not going to happen in California, to be honest with you, because it's going to take a ballot initiative. They're going to actually have to vote for it. The move comes as Democrats have sought ways to combat Republicans mid decade redistricting efforts in states like Texas. Texas House Democrats demands. Meanwhile, the Texas state House Democrats caucus set demands for Democratic lawmakers to return to the state, including ending the first special session of the Texas legislature aimed at passing redistricting efforts to benefit Republicans and For California to introduce redistricting maps to counter Texas. The Democrat lawmakers in Texas still are on the lam. They haven't returned yet. And I don't, I haven't heard anything as to if Ken Paxton is actually pushing to round these people up. I do think that the, the government, the doj, the federal doj, has offered its services or the FBI has offered services. I would like to see this, but I don't think that there's been anything developed about this. So Trump is also saying that, that he believes that Trump is planning to run in 2028. And this clip is actually really funny, but this is something that Donald Trump has been playing around with, you know, basically trolling the left because they're so reactionary that anything that Donald Trump says, they turn into, you know, such a massive deal and they run around like their hair is on fire. And Gavin Newsom is, is not, not immune to that. Well, I think it's pretty sick and pathetic. And it just said everything you need to know, the setting that we're under, that they chose the time, manner and place to send their district director outside right when we're about to have this press conference. Everything you know about Donald Trump's America, and that was top down, you know that for a fact. They'll deny it, I'm sure maybe they won't deny it.
Terence Williams
Should.
Phil Labonte
Everything you know about the authoritarian tendencies of the President of the United States. I said in a moment ago, wake up, America.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Wake up.
Phil Labonte
Up. You will not have a country if he rigs this election. You will have a president will be running for a third term. Mark my word. I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I received in the mail a Trump 2028 hat from one of his biggest supporters. These guys are not screwing around. The rules do not apply to him. The most corrupt president in history doesn't believe in free enterprise, crony capital. He is wrecking this country, wrecking the economy. It's a lawless president.
Tate Brown
Wake up, America.
Phil Labonte
Wake up to what's going on. It's, it's hilarious.
Terence Williams
Yeah, he's running for president.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, he's definitely running for.
Tate Brown
When you think free enterprise, you do think California.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Tate Brown
Like, truckers refusing to take contracts. In like five years, they have to switch to electric.
Phil Labonte
There's been an exodus of businesses from California because of the policy.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
There's no red tape. It's.
Tate Brown
Yeah, yeah, it's like a total. It's like it's in paradise.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I, I did recruiting for a little bit in Sacramento back in 2018. And even back in 2018, people were leaving freaking California to go to Texas and the other states because of their rules and their terrible policies for the free enterprising out of that state. And Gavin Newsom, and it's this guy's swarmy. I need to take a breath. He would love, he's just a human being, brother.
Terence Williams
He would love for President Trump to run in 2028 because that would help him raise so much money. I mean, he's begging for Trump to run again because it will help him raise a lot of money. Yeah, that's, yeah. I mean, that's what he, he wants to run on. He wants to, he would love to run against President Trump. That's his dream.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, he didn't murder.
Terence Williams
That's his dream. You know, he probably wanted to, he probably wanted to run as in, in, in place of Joe Biden, but he couldn't, you know, he probably wanted to do that. He was probably jealous watching Kamala Harris run. He was like, I wish that, I wish that was me running for the cause. I would have won. You know? Yeah, this guy's a joker. You couldn't like, look, look what, look at what you've done with California. He has ran California into the ground. People there can barely afford rent. Okay. It is so expensive to live there. The homeless crisis is, is out of control. Y' all can fact check me on this, but I've been reading a lot. About a hundred million dollars in relief funds have been missing. I don't. It's something shady going on there. I mean, man, find that money first and then you think about running. Where's the money? We don't want to, I don't want to hear nothing else. Where's the money?
Phil Labonte
To your point about the, the way that California has been run, it takes a really significantly, badly run state to get people to leave a state like California. Because it's beautiful, right? The, the fact that it's, it's so nice all the time in February. You can literally be standing in like Lakewood and it's like 75 degrees, gorgeous out and you can go, you can see the snow capped mountains just, you know, half an hour, 40 or 45 minutes an hour away if there's no traffic. Beautiful. You can go snowboarding in the morning and if you want, you could be on the beach by the evening when you have a place that is that gorgeous. Though, it is really, really, really tough to get people to leave. So to think of all of the people that have Left California because I think it's something like half a million or so people have left in past. Since COVID It was me, it was. It was Serge left. And I mean it's like I've been there a lot and it's beautiful, but I mean I couldn't live there with the policies that they have.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
This is the first time they had a drop in migration, state migration.
Tate Brown
Yeah, was last.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Was last year was the first time they had less. More people leaving than they had moving in there. I mean, I lived. I. I had a place in Camarillo back in the mid 2000s and so I know the whole Ventura County, Westlake area. Super nice, super nice. I can't imagine.
Phil Labonte
Were you at 29 palms?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I've been there before, but I've never lived there.
Phil Labonte
Never worked there.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, did training there. But anyways, it was. I can't imagine living there today and how kind of rules and regulations they have and like they had a guy get shot on Thousand Oaks Boulevard, which is a super nicest. One of the best communities. Was one of the safest next to Simi Valley in California just a couple years ago because he was protesting Israel and the whole thing and someone got murdered right on the street. It's just. I can't imagine how that would be back in the 2000s. It's just insane how it's got the.
Phil Labonte
Sh s. Have you spent any time in California?
Tate Brown
No, not. I've been out there once, but I keep an eye. I mean, look, you're right, it is like geographically the perfect, perfect place. I mean pristine. It's like you mix the Mediterranean with like the Alps and you just smash it right by a coast. Tremendous. I mean, if you had the same policies and you know, like I used to live in Indiana. If you pass the same policies in Indiana, you'd have like 10 people left. People would get out of there so bad.
Phil Labonte
I mean, it's true. Yeah. Same thing with like, like the only reason that, that, that. I mean, I. I can't imagine that you could have the same policies in New England. That was what I was gonna say. But then I think about Massachusetts and I think about New York and New Jersey.
Tate Brown
But even then, like California is at a different level. I mean they dropped like almost a trillion bucks on a high speed rail that goes from like what, Fresno to Merced.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Is that even done?
Tate Brown
I mean that would be.
Phil Labonte
It will never be done. Yeah, it was a complete failure. There is no high speed rail that's going to be.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Do they do anything positive there? Like do they get accomplish any of.
Phil Labonte
The missions, their goals. Nothing.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Okay. It's a lot of talk and a lot of hoopla.
Phil Labonte
They built nothing because of red tape and, and free enterprise. Yeah, exactly. The state of free enterprise.
Terence Williams
Imagine Gavin Newsome. Imagine a Gavin Newsome America. He would be worse than Barack Obama.
Phil Labonte
That's impressive.
Terence Williams
He would be worse than Joe Biden. I couldn't even imagine. I wouldn't leave America because this is my country. I was born here, raised here. I ain't going no damn where. But it would be sickening to live under a Gavin Newsome America, like, rule. I mean, this guy would be. He would be how people are viewing, how some of these Democrats are viewing Donald Trump to be this, this dictator and this control freak and this crazy man. That is going to be Gavin Newsom. Everything he's accusing Trump of, that is going to be him.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Terence Williams
He is projecting. Yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
And isn't he a lizard? I think Shane called him a lizard before.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Tate Brown
He's. He's just really. Because he's kind of old school in a weird way. Like, he. He is this kind of old school, slimy, kind of Tammany hall politician. He'll just adopt whatever. Because that's going to be his problem in 2028 is he has these marketing agencies that are behind him in his ear right now saying, hey, you need to larp like you're this masculine tough guy. And then he's going to get the 2028 and get that primary and realize the Democrat voters want like someone that's like trans Puerto Rican, whatever. He's going to be cooked.
Phil Labonte
Do you think that he could win the nomination? I think that he. I don't think that he could win because he's a CIS white male.
Tate Brown
Well. And right now, whatever marketing agency is in his ear, he's trying to win over like, like moderate Republicans, but you still have a primary to get through. If you're running in a general, that might actually work.
Terence Williams
He don't even sound trusting like you got him. He looks like a slime ball. He's like, he' just. He was on like a car salesman.
Tate Brown
You know, he was on Sha Ryan show and like, and he gifted him like a handgun. And then he's like, yeah, this is so sick. I love gun.
Terence Williams
He looks like, like a shady lawyer.
Tate Brown
Yeah. It's like you handed him like a hedgehog or something. He was like, this is great.
Terence Williams
Gavin Newsom would. If Gavin Newsom became president, he is the one who would want a third term. He would say, I need to Stay in so we will never have another Donald Trump in this country again. Like that is exactly what he would say.
Phil Labonte
You do you. I don't. It is my sense, like you said, it is my sense that he couldn't win a primary. I don't know like you. How do you, how do do the. Or how does the Democrats look at someone like Gavin Newsom and actually say, okay, we're going to put our. The base is going to get behind you. I can imagine the, the money getting behind him.
Terence Williams
Oh yeah.
Phil Labonte
I think that there's a big, there's a big, there's a big civil war going on in the Democrat Party between the. Actually the woke the very progressives and the people like Newsom and to Tate's is going on Sean Ryan trying to grab, grab the Republicans that might not love Donald Trump, but I don't see how he wins a primary, especially if it's someone like aoc. And again, I know there, there are people that disagree with me. Last time I was here we had this, we had this conversation.
Terence Williams
Oh yeah.
Phil Labonte
But I like whether or not you like AOC's policies, which obviously I don't like. I'm a, you know, I'm very much a free market guy and I want to, I want to deport a bunch of people and I'm far more conservative than or far more right wing I guess than, than most of the people on the right, to be honest with you. But like I don't see how someone like Gavin Newsom can get on stage with AOC and how the base would look at Gavin Newsom and say, I would rather vote for Gavin Newsom than for aoc.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I think he would. I think it's a lot of BS but their whole, their bipoc, they want the minority. I feel like he would, he would, he would definitely win the primary because he's slimy enough. He says right things for them or.
Terence Williams
Maybe they run together. Yeah, but Newsom, Cortez, I think it's.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
All fake on there. Like we want this. We're so mad. We want the trans queer person. Yeah, it's all fake because they got. Joe Biden is white. They're going to. If Brock is kind of white.
Terence Williams
I would pay for Newsom to choose. Well, I know he can't do this because Maxine lives in California, but I would love to, I would pay to see Newsom Newsome Waters campaign to see Max. Well, I mean that's, I would love to see that. Oh, I would get a kick out of that.
Tate Brown
That would Be a beautiful thing. I mean, look, the problem in 2028 for Newsom is going to be like, think how angry Democrats are right now. I'll imagine after three years of Trump, they're going to want to go back and fight fire with fire, and they're going to pick the most radical option that the Democrat, the DNC will basically allow them to have.
Phil Labonte
You think that would be someone like aoc, or do you think there's someone that is actually more radical that could possibly take her place?
Tate Brown
Yeah, I mean, it could be an aoc. I mean, there's even guys that no one's really talking about yet that are sniffing around, like Ruben Gallego. I mean, there's. There's a chance that someone like him could raise a bunch of money, because those guys, like, guys like Ruben, like senators, have connections.
Phil Labonte
Senators.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's a good point.
Tate Brown
To win a race in Arizona, you have to raise a lot of money. So Ruben Gallego, he knows how to raise money, but he's progressive enough to please the radical left base, and he can still talk and cool down. Kind of the more establishment Democrats, someone like Newsom's cooked, because the base in 2028 is not going to moderate. I mean, think about how we were in 2016, and they're like, here's Scott Walker and Jeb Bush. And we're like, no, we want the guy that's, like, calling him gay on stage. That's awesome. We want that guy. So Democrats are gonna have that moment in 28.
Phil Labonte
It is. It is true. You make a great point. The Congress people do not win. I can't remember the last time someone from Congress from the. From the House of Representatives won the presidency. If you're a senator, you have far more influence with the moneyed people there. They tend to deal with those people more. Because, look, if you're looking to open some kind of big business or you want your business to be in a state, you don't go Talk to the 3rd District's congressional representative because they're. It's. It's small potatoes, you know, but if you. You talk to the, you know, the junior senator, even from a state, that's someone that can actually help you when it comes to getting legislation passed. They can act, especially if they. If they're on, depending on which committee they're on, of course. But. So that. That is a really great point. If there's someone that's a senator that is progressive, they will likely have a significantly higher chance than anyone.
Terence Williams
Gavin Newsom people are running from Gavin Newsom, you should not be running for president when people are running from you. Yeah, they're running from California. They don't want. They do not want to live in a state that you are running because of you. You are terrible.
Tate Brown
Well, he's gonna get embarrassed.
Terence Williams
I think, personally, California accounts for a large portion of the homeless population. Imagine if he becomes president, we all.
Tate Brown
Gonna be homeless real well. It's gonna be like one giant skid row.
Terence Williams
Yeah, one giant skid row.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
He.
Tate Brown
I think he's gonna get embarrassed with his ballot measure in November, because if you look at the polling right now, the Californian people, for what it's worth, you gotta give them the dub every once in a while. They do really like their independent commission. True. I think the polling's like, 60, 40 right now. And now you have guys like Arnold. I mean, Arnold's still well liked in California. He's getting involved. He's saying, no, do not repeal this. So, like, come November, I think Gavin News. I don't even know if he's gonna get this across the finish line. The only way he is is he's gonna be able to present this in, like, a really partisan way.
Phil Labonte
But you talking about for the redistrict.
Tate Brown
For the redistricting, but, like, by the time. By November, like, we'll be a midterm season. Like, people are just Californians. Like, their. For what it's worth, they, like, commission even the Democrats.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't imagine that there's going to be actual. Actual redistricting in California, because I. I don't see them. I don't see the. The balladman should pass anything.
Terence Williams
Is Gavin Newsome allowed on this podcast? Would y' all enter?
Phil Labonte
We would have him here in a heartbeat.
Terence Williams
Since he's trying to reach the conservative. In a heartbeat, he should come on this show. I would love to see y' all chew. Tear him in a piece of pieces.
Tate Brown
I think we just ask him very basic questions and chew himself to pieces.
Terence Williams
Yeah, he will chew himself to pieces. That's what I'm saying.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Terence Williams
You know, so come through.
Phil Labonte
Roll up, Gavin. We got you.
Tate Brown
We got you.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
End of day, I'm thinking Gavin newsman still has a chance of winning the primary, but my. Still my overall pick. I said before, here is. I know people don't like this pick, but so I still think Ro Khanna. Ro Khanna.
Terence Williams
Who's that?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
If you guys think he's too moderate. I know you guys told me last time, but I still think Ro Khanna has a really good shot. Ro Khanna. You know who Rokhana is?
Phil Labonte
It's. It. I think that possibly could win.
Tate Brown
He's just. He's in a weird spot because his specific district really likes him. Let's. This is rare.
Phil Labonte
He's a congressperson. Congress people are saying.
Terence Williams
What is his last name?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
K A. K H A, N, N A.
Terence Williams
He won't be president. No, just. Just on the last name, period.
Tate Brown
Hey, we like Obama.
Terence Williams
It's not. It's not.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
He's getting around. He's going on all these podcasts. People love him on the left. Just kind of moderate.
Tate Brown
I still can't believe we did that as a country.
Terence Williams
What black man got the middle name Hussein? You know who.
Tate Brown
It's usually post prison. What?
Terence Williams
Yeah, Hussein. Yeah, that's.
Tate Brown
Yeah, that's post prison.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, Hussein.
Tate Brown
So if Trump puts Obama in jail, what's he. How's he going to Muslim up his.
Terence Williams
I've never met a black person with that middle name. You will never meet a Trayvon Hussein Williams. Attack Wain Johnson like Hussein.
Phil Labonte
Well, I mean, what was Barack Obama's father's name?
Tate Brown
Barack Obama Senior, I think.
Phil Labonte
What was it?
Tate Brown
I think. I think it was. I think his father also Barack Obama.
Phil Labonte
If he's a junior, it'd be Barack Hussein Obama.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, that's something like Alexa is.
Phil Labonte
You're trying to.
Tate Brown
With the Rokhana thing. I mean, the thing about Rokhan is he's in a weird district because it's like a tech bro district. So his. It's rare to actually see a rep that. That is really well liked by his constituents and disliked by the rest of the party.
Terence Williams
I can't imagine no president ain't Ro Khanna.
Tate Brown
I know everyone loves him, bro.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I'm telling you, I'm sticking to it.
Tate Brown
Does he have the name, though?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, he's a senior. You're right.
Tate Brown
Yeah. Yeah. But I think Ro Khanna could maybe appeal to, like, the tech bro sector and win him back to the Democrats. Because I do think the nationalist MAGA base and the tech base, we've already seen tensions flare up a few times already in the Trump presidency. Come three years, we could see a major.
Terence Williams
You think he's a better option than Vivek?
Tate Brown
Well, I'm saying, I mean, if the Dem. If the money came back to the Democrats, maybe they could squeak Ro Khan across the finish line. I doubt it. Maybe a vp.
Phil Labonte
Vivek's going to be. He's looking to be the governor of Ohio. He's running for.
Terence Williams
Oh, yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Is that this year?
Tate Brown
I think he. He also nuked his national ambitions with this Christmas crash out over the age.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, yeah.
Phil Labonte
Oh, you think so?
Tate Brown
Yeah, I. I agree. The MAGA base is in charge now. We're in the driver's seat. We don't have to tolerate that.
Terence Williams
I haven't posted this video yet, but I had got a call on my phone phone. He said, hello? I said, who is this? Are we calling about what you think about the American politics? I said, who is this? This is John. I said, john, where you from? Item from Idaho. I said, yeah, I recorded my. I got my other phone to record the camera. I'm gonna post it. I said, john, you really. Yes, I. From Idaho. I just called about politics. What you think about the. Was it going on in America right.
Phil Labonte
Now been H1B or Polar rooting the call through Idaho? Went for Idaho via New Delhi.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
The scam likelys. Why you're answer answering the scam likely man they.
Terence Williams
They call from. It didn't come up as scam likely. You know, they call from all kind of numbers now, Mom.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, it's. It's pretty clear that. That Nome is going to be running for president. And. And it's. I don't know if you guys saw the tweet that he put out, but his. His comms team is actually trying to emulate Donald Trump.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Doing.
Tate Brown
Oh, good.
Phil Labonte
Which is. What do you mean, good?
Tate Brown
Because it just shows that Trump, like, commands. Okay, yeah, he commands the conversation.
Terence Williams
But it's so terrible the way he's doing it. Like, did you see the last one he did with. With Stephen Miller? He was using? Yeah. Have y' all seen the post that Gavin Newsom office did with Stephen Miller? Miller said that. He did about Stephen Miller.
Phil Labonte
Look at Stephen Miller.
Terence Williams
Yeah, about Stephen Miller. He replied. He did a quote tweet. It is insane. Just look at it. I mean, no, you're gonna. No, this is. This is worse than all caps. I mean, it was. Please look at this.
Tate Brown
Well, they think. They think they're being, like, coy.
Terence Williams
Gavin Newsom office quote, tweet, mocking. But you gotta see this. This is about. Ah, I. Oh, it is. It is terrible.
Phil Labonte
Miller, not Trump. This one.
Terence Williams
Huh? I can't see that.
Phil Labonte
No, that's not it.
Terence Williams
No, no, no, it's not that one. No.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You should get some glasses.
Terence Williams
He. Yeah, he did a quote tweet.
Phil Labonte
Is it from c. The governor?
Terence Williams
Yes, it's from the governor's office. He did a quote tweet, go down.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Go down, go down, go down, go down, go down, go down.
Terence Williams
He did a quote tweet. How many times do we post today?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
A lot, I'm sure.
Terence Williams
Is this from today?
Phil Labonte
Yeah, yeah, that's from today. Five hours ago.
Terence Williams
Yeah, it was.
Tate Brown
Look, they even put sad.
Terence Williams
It was.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, sad, like Trump.
Tate Brown
Just Trump dominant. He's changed the American syntax forever.
Terence Williams
It was yesterday. Now, maybe you can type in the. Maybe you can. Okay. Yeah.
Phil Labonte
No, no, no, Caroline. They're trying to give nicknames, too, Carol.
Tate Brown
Like, I mean, has there ever been a single Democrat that's Keep on going. Had aura like Trump? I mean, this is. This is.
Phil Labonte
So Smithsonian is supposed to be a global symbol of American strength.
Terence Williams
No, Keep on going.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, that was close.
Phil Labonte
There's all these.
Terence Williams
Oh, he posts too much then.
Phil Labonte
Well, I mean, he's trying to be Donald Trump. Oh, my God. Look at. They did, like, cove. Like, that is.
Tate Brown
This is fan behavior. This is weird. Yeah, this is creepy.
Phil Labonte
He broke his brain. It's. It's. Yeah.
Tate Brown
Guys, what if we mock Trump's style by just emulating it in a really flattering way and it's a great idea, guys. Yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It's so easy to trigger them, too. Like, anything. Well, yeah, it's just.
Tate Brown
There's easy.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
They're easy. They're.
Phil Labonte
Someone sent them a Trump 2028 hat and he's like, oh, they're serious. They're really going to do it and you're going to lose and again, lose your democracy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's the same playbook. So. Hey, Terence, why don't you see if you can find that and then send it. Send an email or send it over to Serge or whatever. We'll bring it. But we're going to jump to this story right now from the Washington Post. D.C. clears homeless encampment near Kennedy Center. D.C. gave residents a day's notice to remove their belongings. The clearing comes as the Trump administration has vowed to crack down on homeless encampments in the city. Members of DC's Health and Human Services team began clearing in an encampment Thursday. Thursday morning on a grassy no man's land near the Kennedy center after giving residents a day's notice to remove their belongings. The clearing comes as the Trump administration has vowed to crack down on homeless encampments in the District and threaten to fine or arrest individuals who refuse to be removed or replaced in shelters. It also follows President Donald Trump declaring an emergency in the nation's capital earlier this week and putting the city's police department under federal control. He sent federal law enforcement agents on patrols in D.C. and deployed the National Guard to the city. D.C. police data shows violent crime after a historic spike in 23. 2023 is down. Is this is a terrible, terrible position for the Post to be taking because even Democrats, all the talking heads. Joe Scarborough was talking to Mark Halperin today and Joe Scarborough was talking about crime in D.C. and how the Democrats should not be getting behind this. He was mentioning how when Scarborough was in CONGRESS in the 90s, the Dem, the Republicans would say something and then Bill Clinton would, would cut their legs out from under him by saying, I agree with them. And then he'd say, well, this is what I think we should do. And then of course, Clinton would fight with the Republicans the entire time so it wouldn't be like Clinton was, was, was, you know, giving Republicans what they wanted. But he cut the wind out of all of their arguments by saying, oh, I agree with them. They're right about that. I agree with him. Bill Clinton was an absolute master at rhetoric and he was a master at, at taking the wind out of the sails of the, of the, of the, of his political opponents. And it worked great. So the, the Republicans had to respond. But like we were saying earlier, there are so many people now in the Democrat Party that look at Donald Trump and think their job is to do whatever Donald Trump doesn't want them to do. That's why they've come down on the wrong side of so many 80, 20 issues. The post goes on. Let's see. The post goes on. By 8am Thursday at the encampment, three people had already packed their belongings and scattered. Six more were busy wiping down their tents and folding tarps to meet at 10am deadline set by the District. Several residents say they had been in the encampment for months. It's, it's a longer walk than it looks across the bridge to Virginia, said David Beatty, 67, who has lived in the camp for eight months. If I can get my stuff in storage, I'll do what I usually do. I have a broom and a dustpan and I walk around sweeping up. The District usually posts notices for clearings 14 days in advance, and the site has not been on the District list for clearings. Rebecca Dulia spoke spokesperson for the deputy mayor for Health and Human Services, said the encampment's proximity to the highway qualified it for expedited removal, which requires only 24 hours notice. Why does there require, why is there any notice required if you're, you should not be allowed a decent human Being.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I guess, I don't know, I'm just throwing something out there.
Phil Labonte
Look, they're, they're, they're homeless people and it's not like they're just like hanging out. They've literally built essentially homes.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yes.
Terence Williams
Right.
Phil Labonte
They, they've got tents, they've got tarps. If they, they shouldn't.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Gas grills. They got everything.
Phil Labonte
Ye. They're dangerous. Possibly.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Sure.
Phil Labonte
You know, but like seeing a bunch.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Of homeless chemists but never.
Phil Labonte
He shouldn't be a given. There shouldn't be any kind of required time for them to, to notice given to him. Just go and tell them they have to leave because their loiter. They're, you know, they're, they're trespassing.
Tate Brown
Yeah. I mean it is true and like what you were saying earlier in the article where like, for whatever reason you're speculating why the left is pushing back on the, this. It's actually kind of, I think it's clear, is because the entire purpose of like modern left wing political thought is to demoralize patriots. And what is more demoralizing than walking around your nation's capital and there's like, I mean it looks like Bonnaroo. I mean it's like a total disaster. So what's the most empowering thing you could do for a patriot is clean up his capital city, get the riff raff out, get the homeless out, make it really pretty. You know, Trump wants to reinvigorate our federal architecture. He's, you know, swapped out out the official architecture style of our federal buildings. And so it's like, yeah, this is actually a huge threat to the left is that Trump wants to empower patriots and actually make you feel good about your country and your capital again. So it's like, yeah, they actually can't concede this point. They can't, they can't let D.C. become a beautiful place that'll bring too much pride to the American heart.
Terence Williams
And that's why they're making about race now. D.C. has a lot of, well, now where they've been making about race. But that's, but, but that's what they're pushing, pushing. You know, they're not pushing all. Trump is trying to change things to make America so beautiful again and safe again. He's doing this because it's a black mayor. He, he, a black woman intimidates Donald Trump. He's doing this because it's a lot of black people that live in D.C. and he's just trying to get in their way. He don't like black People, that's why he's doing this. That is literally their argument right now about, about him keeping him keeping D.C. safe, Washington, D.C. safe. They have made that about him attacking black people. Yeah, that is not an attack on black people at all. Do you think they're selling though? Huh?
Phil Labonte
Do you think that people are buying what they're selling?
Terence Williams
People who, okay, you have people who are going to, who just hate Trump, so they're going to believe anything that they say about Trump.
Phil Labonte
White people.
Terence Williams
Yeah, white people. And there are some black people too, who believe everything that the Democrats tell them. You know, you have, you have a group of those, but there are a lot of, there are a lot of boomer blacks who are happy about this. They're like, yes, because I'm, I'm tired of going to Walgreens and it's getting robbed when I'm trying to go pick up my medication. You know, I want to be able to, to walk to the bus station or, or, or, or, or take the bus without somebody on the bus. When you go with a gun and, and, and, and threatening to rob people.
Phil Labonte
And you go into high crime areas and they pull the people in the high crime areas all the time, they're like, yes, we want more police. The people that want to defund the police. The people that don't want more police. Yeah, they're always wealthy people that don't live in the high crime area.
Terence Williams
Exactly.
Phil Labonte
Almost all the time. So this isn't unpopular with the people that it's affecting. Yes, it's extremely popular with the people that it's affecting because those people are the ones that have to live with the crime. They have to live, live with the, the vagrants. They have to live with the, the homeless people in the area they have to live with. Homeless people do crazy stuff because there's the Venn diagram of homeless people, mentally ill people and drug users is almost a circle. Right. Like homeless people and, and mental illness go hand in hand. Homeless people and drug use go hand in hand. There is a reason why they're homeless and very rarely is it chronic homelessness. Not that there aren't people that fall on hard times, but chronic homelessness is almost always mental illness and drug use. Those two things are, are hand in hand. So people that live in these, these areas, they don't want to open up their door. Like our guest last night, Adam, was saying, you know, you open up your door and there's a homeless guy sitting on your, on your stoop. Like, nobody wants that.
Terence Williams
Yeah, yeah. Don't don't nobody want that. People want to live in clean and safe environments. That's what most people want. The people who don't care about that, they are dirty and disgusting and they just don't care about nothing. Nothing at all, evidently. You know, they don't care about their surroundings. They don't care about their community. They don't care about safety. They don't care about the community being clean. They're just living a life doing, committing crimes and partying and smoking and drinking and they don't. They don't give a damn.
Tate Brown
Okay, Seriously, it totally tracks. Like, when you see people that advocate really heavily for like the homeless, or they're like really concerned about mental health issues, or they're really upset about ice raids, they're typically really dysgenic looking. And it's because a dysgenic soul will like present itself. It manifests itself physically and it's also manifesting itself in their politics. They're voting for the most dysgenic disgusting policies. It's a war on beauty. And when you see stuff like homeless people sitting next to these beautiful monuments that were built hundreds of years ago, that's just an F you to beauty. That's all that's happening here. They just hate things that are beautiful. That's why they want to destroy children. That's why they want to take beautiful young men and women and transition them and load them up with drugs and cut them up. It's a war on beauty.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Fundamentally, it's the same argument as the left in these awfuls, saying that black folks or people of color can't get IDs to vote. Like nobody has IDs. They can't get IDs, they don't know. They don't know how to use computers, for God's sake.
Phil Labonte
You got id, right?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Kathy Hochschule.
Tate Brown
They don't use.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
What is that exact same thing. And then when you talk to the people in the town, you talk to people on streets. Of course I have an id.
Terence Williams
Of course. I say this all the time. Let me tell you. Same thing in the black. It is. I'm telling you right now. If that is the truth, if somebody is lying, or maybe these, these liquor stores are not checking IDs because a lot of places where I grew up, there was a liquor store on every street and a lot of black people were in them liquor stores buying liquor. Okay? Now you mean to tell me that these people can't get an id, but they in a club every weekend, they in the club turking the sexy. They paid to go see Cardi B at the club, but they ain't got no ID when they check the ID at the door. And then, hold on. Some people don't have an id, so they're using a fake id. So they still know how to get some type of id, Right?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Even if it's fake, they still got an id.
Terence Williams
They still got an id.
Tate Brown
I found that people on the. On the lower end of the mcam scale are the best at exploiting, like, government programs. Like, Masterful, like, like I used to. Like. I've had a few jobs where you interact with a lot of people that just scam for a little living. And it's like when they explain to me the procedures and protocols of how they, like, hack these government systems, I'm like, I couldn't ever occur, like, you're a genius in the realm of scamming. It's like, how do we funnel these scammers into, like, intelligence?
Terence Williams
Right now, Right now, this is. This is the year. This is the year 2025. This is not this. We are not living in BC times, okay? If you want something, you can just. It may not be easy easy, but you can get it now, especially an id. You can just go. You can get a state id. If you can't drive, you can go get an ID from. You can go to the library and get an id. Okay. But we are live like. We are living in the greatest country in the world. If you want something, you can get it. That doesn't mean it's going to be easy. Nothing in life is easy. But black people can. Black people can. They can achieve anything. Anything. But the Democrats. Democrats don't want them to believe that because they need them. They need. They need them for their votes, and they don't want them. You know, we need you. So we're going to tell you that. You can't get this unless you vote for me.
Phil Labonte
That's what I mean.
Terence Williams
You can't do this unless you vote for me and all. And also I'm gonna tell you something you can do, but you. That, well, this is something you can do, but I'm gonna tell you you can't do it. You don't know how to go get an id. Do you understand me? You don't know how to. To. So. And we. You don't know how to. Okay, so we. We running on that. So you don't need an ID to vote. Don't. Don't get one. Because we want to run on. You don't know how to get one. You know, like, that's.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That's what I'm saying. They're telling that with the whole ID thing, they can't get IDs. They're also telling the local residents who live in the city, live in the. The area that they're safe. There's no crime going on there. But when you speak to the local folks, there's. There's mad interviews going on right now. You see people on the street, the street. How do you feel about this? And like, yo, I love this Trump coming in. I love that they're bringing in these people to crack down the streets. Because you know what? Girl got shot the other day. This young man got shot the other day on my street. Like, we want this.
Terence Williams
Yes.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Good for us.
Terence Williams
Because a lot of those people have lost their grand. Their grandchildren and children to gun violence.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yes. It's a whole year lie.
Terence Williams
It's both caused by gang violence and drug dealing in the neighborhood.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. I mean, this comes back to why people want police, why people that are affected by crime want police.
Terence Williams
Neighborhoods, even criminals, need the police. Because. Because I tell you right now, if, if, if, if little pooky's homie gets shot, little pooky gonna call the police. 911. My homie just got shot. Can somebody come right now? We need to. Somebody, somebody get some help. My homie just got shot. Get some help in this. You know, like, they even call the police. Hello. Can y' all come get this? He ain't pay his child. So I. Paul. Oh, hi. You know, like, I mean, black, like the people that scream defund. They. Even, they. They do need the police at some point, you know, I'm just saying.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I. Yeah, like, the local residents aren't saying defun. It's the freaking. The uppity.
Terence Williams
Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Sorry. Yeah. You were saying, Tate?
Tate Brown
No, he stole my line for.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh, yeah, Okie.
Tate Brown
Getting down the baby mama line.
Terence Williams
I saved you from some trouble.
Tate Brown
That's true. I appreciate that you're looking out for me.
Phil Labonte
All right, we're going to jump to this story here. And. And one of the parts or one of the. The mentionable things about this story is the way that Huffington Post framed it and the. The headline they use. MAGA Biggest Loser Star has Meltdown Defending white people during CNN Slavery Talk. Every single thing is like, oh, no, no, no. This is all because white people bad. And that's just not the truth. Jillian Michaels told AB anchor Abby Phillips. Jillian Michaels had been fairly, at least friendly with the progressives until Covid. She's one of the people that when Covid hit, she really had an issue with it. So we're gonna jump into this here from the Huffington post. Yeah, it's HuffPost, Biggest Loser coach and Donald Trump supporter. They have to point out that she's a Donald Trump supporter. So that way the reader knows this person is evil. This person is bad.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Bad.
Phil Labonte
We framed that. This person. You're supposed to dislike what this person says. Biggest Loser coach and Donald Trump supporter Jillian Michaels had a stunning meltdown Wednesday night while defending white people during a fiery debate about the president's efforts to rewrite US History. This is in context of just an overall redoing of the way that things with the Smithsonian are phrased, are framed. And this is something that, that Donald Trump has talked about and he ran on this, the, the framing of history. So that way the United States is a, is a villain in the United States is going to end and it should end. Right. There are plenty of places around the world that hate the United States. Right. And there are definitely ways that you can frame arguments to make the United States look bad. But the United States, the American people should not be, be funding things that make America out to be the villain of every story.
Terence Williams
They shouldn't. And you know what? And I, I, Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Before, before we get in, before we go look, let's listen to the, this piece on cnn. What they, what they were, what they're actually referring to here, the leader and what the maga. Can we address some of those things that are in there? Because have you looked at some of the things that being slavery.
Tate Brown
Yeah. Slavery was a bad thing to talk about.
Phil Labonte
Okay. Like he forgave not whitewashing slavery. So he's not. He's not.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
No, he's not.
Phil Labonte
And you cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
But let's talk about the fact that when you.
Phil Labonte
Let's talk about the fact slavery in America was. Less than 2% of white Americans own slaves, but it was a system of white supremacy.
Terence Williams
Slavery is thousands of years old.
Tate Brown
White people were slave owners. I didn't realize this is controversial.
Phil Labonte
I'm very surprised.
Tate Brown
This is an extraordinary exercise in historical revisionism.
Phil Labonte
I'm really.
Terence Williams
Do you realize that, Jillian, I'm surprised that you're trying to litigate who was the beneficiary of slavery. I'm not. What I'm trying to tell you is in the context of American history, in the context of American history, what are you saying is incorrect by saying that.
Phil Labonte
It was white people oppressing every single thing is like oh no, no, this is all because white people bad. And that's just not the truth. Like for example every single exhibit I.
Terence Williams
Have a list of every single one.
Phil Labonte
Like people migrated from Cuba because white people bad. Not so and to her point we're going to bring up something from the Smithsonian. Now a lot of people may remember this but the this is a talking point paper or, or I don't, I don't know pamphlet or whatever distributed by the the Smithsonian. Right. About whiteness and white culture and the things that they were telling, you know, telling people that would were going to the Smithsonian things that were considered bad. Rugged individualism, family structure emphasis on scientific method method Protestant work ethic based religion based Christianity is the norm. Anything other than Judeo Christian tradition is foreign. No tolerance for deviation from single God concept. That is that is traditionally the way that you know not just white people but white and black people in America. I mean there's a lot of Southern Baptists that are black, right? Like absolutely the way that the that most Americans conceptualize religion status, power and authority. Wealth is, is worth your job is who you are. Respect authority Heavy value on ownership of goods, space, property future orientation plan for future delayed gratification. Progress is always best. Tomorrow will be better time follow rigid time schedules timed views as a commodity Aesthetics which a hundred percent based on European culture. Steak and potatoes bland is best.
Terence Williams
I don't know.
Phil Labonte
I don't know about that best. I don't, I don't even know where that comes from. I know for well but I know for a fact white people fought tons of wars pepper just for pepper. So I don't know. I don't know where how that's what.
Tate Brown
We just wanted to do it because.
Phil Labonte
We could show we could women's beauty based on blonde thin. I don't know about blonde. I mean that is you know I do like thin women. I do think that. I think that it's good to be thin to not be overweight. We were just talking about the fact that 75% of Americans are overweight weight 50% of Americans are obese and also heart disease and cancer are the two biggest killers in the United States and both of them are strongly related to obesity holidays justice based on English common law. There's no debating whether or not the United States laws are based on English common law. Protect property entitlements. If you don't protect property, your society will fall apart. Part the very foundation of Our society is based on property rights. And the very first property that you own is your body and your life. That's why the government can't take your liberty or your property, including your body, from you without due process. Intent counts. So it does matter if you're trying to hurt something or trying to do something good. Competition. Winning is important. Win or loser. Dichotomy. Action orientation. Master and control. Nature. Nature must always do something about a situation. It's a good idea to do things when there's a problem. Like do things to fix that. Communication. The King's English rules. Yes, we speak English in the United States and I think that it should be the, the. The only language that any government documents are produced in. Written tradition. Avoid conflict and intimacy. I don't know how that's whiteness. Don't show emotion. Stoicism is. There's some value in it for men, but not for women. Don't discuss personal life. Be polite, light. You know, that's a good way to not get punched in the face.
Tate Brown
I thought the Smithsonian hated. I thought they hated white people.
Terence Williams
This is nauseating.
Phil Labonte
This is.
Tate Brown
This is something.
Phil Labonte
This is an outline for how to have a good productive life. And they're saying that these things are bad.
Tate Brown
Yeah, I thought the whole thing was the Smithsonian hated white people. This is like they're glazing us. This is great.
Phil Labonte
Unstoppable.
Tate Brown
No.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Tate Brown
Like the Jilly. I mean that aside, like it's beyond. They specifically single out like English. Like the Anglosphere. Like they single out. Yeah. Anglo Americans. Wasps. And they single out the British. And who are the two countries that specifically the British Empire was the first to really abolish slavery. And they fought so many wars. Global slavery. Globally. And the Americans spilled half a million young men's blood to abolish slavery. And then we're like the only two countries that get singled out for this.
Phil Labonte
More people died at Gettysburg than died in the. Than Americans died in the entire Vietnam War.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
54000 people died.
Tate Brown
Yeah. We're like single handedly held responsible for slavery. It's like we're the reason it's abolished.
Terence Williams
It's crazy that slavery. Every year. Slavery is a hot topic. Something that does not exist in America anymore. It is the hottest topic every year. It is one of the hottest topics. It has been abolished for I don't know how long. Okay. Slavery has been. Slavery has been a part of just mankind. You know, it's been around thousands of years. Thousands of years. I'm not going to lie if I was trying to build a country, and I didn't have help, and I didn't have people wanting to help me. And I'm fighting some people or I know some people are for. There are some slaves that's for sale. I'm buying some slaves to help me build my damn country. That's all I'm saying. That's kind of crazy. I'm just saying, like, oh, America need. They needed slaves at the time because they could not. They. They were not able to slave the Native Americans because the Native Americans, they knew the land. When they would run away, the Europeans don't know where to find them. They don't know where to find Mr. Running with the Wolves. He be fast.
Tate Brown
He ran with the wolves.
Terence Williams
Yeah. Yeah. And. And a lot of them. And people don't know this too. You know, I'm from Oklahoma, so we. We learn a lot about the Native Americans there, you know, because this trailer. You know, the whole Trail of Tears. But anyways, a lot of the native males did not do crop work. They did not do the job which women did all the gardening and the cropping. The males were hunters. So it was beneath a lot of them to even plant a tomato. They were not going to. They would rather die. Some of them rather die than to plant a damn tomato, you know, so. So they. So, I mean, it was. They couldn't slave these Native Americans and the Spaniards. Spaniards. You know, the Spaniards were involved in the slave trade heavily. Oh, yeah, yeah. And they are the ones who. Who introduced the African slaves to the Americans and they started that whole thing. Why don't y' all just buy them all? They already in chains.
Phil Labonte
There's something like.
Terence Williams
And, you know, like they are. See, people don't want to talk about this. This is.
Tate Brown
It's true.
Terence Williams
Right? You're right.
Tate Brown
We only blame the English.
Terence Williams
We keep talking about. About who. Who bought the slaves. Let's talk about who sold the slaves.
Phil Labonte
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez should not be taught.
Terence Williams
AOC Your great grandpappy, was selling slaves. Okay.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Only, like, there was. There was like a quarter of a million slaves in the United States. Right? In the.
Terence Williams
Yes.
Phil Labonte
Before the. I think before the. The country and all those.
Terence Williams
And people don't even understand this. Black people. There were some black slave owners as well. Well, yeah.
Phil Labonte
Oh, yeah.
Terence Williams
And I'm trying to find out actively right now. I'm trying to. Y. If y' all don't know if people. If you're just coming in, my name is Terence K. Williams. I'm trying to find out if somehow I have a. An ancestor that used to own slaves. Because it could be some money out there for me right now, some inheritance or something. Because there were black slave owners. I could come from a black slave owner. Harris's parents, I don't know because I grew up in foster care. So I don't know. I don't know all my family history. But there's a possibility that great, great, great, great, great great grandpappy own some slaves and I got some inheritance out there somewhere waiting on me. So if I look like any old black slave owner that you know of, please let me know. I could be entitled to something.
Phil Labonte
Something like Anthony Johnson was the first slave owner in the United States. Anthony Johnson was a colonist.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Right?
Terence Williams
Black guy.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Terence Williams
What's his last name? Anthony Johnson.
Phil Labonte
Should there.
Terence Williams
I'm K to some Johnson. I'mma look into that and I'mma put a statue up my great great great grandpa. I don't care if he owned slaves. I'mma be proud. My great great grand.
Tate Brown
There was Irish too. Wild avant garde.
Phil Labonte
There was 5 million slaves in Brazil.
Tate Brown
Like.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, no, just in Brazil and through the whole Spanish col. Of the Spanish colonies, there were slaves or slaves in the Caribbean. There were slaves everywhere, all over the place.
Terence Williams
It was not an American thing. It was. And it was normal at the time is people act like America. Americans invented slavery. Americans maybe may have been the last ones to really do it.
Phil Labonte
No, because there's still slavery in the Middle east.
Tate Brown
Slavery in the 20th century.
Phil Labonte
There's still, there's still, still slavery.
Terence Williams
America's one of the. Well, I would say this. We are one of the last ones to be. Well, with the greatest country in the world.
Phil Labonte
Right.
Terence Williams
That's why to be doing slavery, you know? Know. Yeah, it was the greatest country. But anyways. But it was needed at the time. A slave. Listen, I don't agree with slavery period. But it was, it was needed if it's. If it was needed at the time they needed the slaves, it was normal to them. It was. We're talking about a time. Everybody back in the day was crazy, in my opinion. Everybody of all colors, they were all crazy. I mean, even people back in the day, 500,000 years ago, they were a.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Different breed, you know, 100,000 years.
Terence Williams
I said a th. Even. I said, I said five hundred to a thousand years ago. Go. I mean, these are people who would, who would gather around to watch somebody be executed in public and they, and.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
They'Re like, oh my God, that guy just got hung.
Terence Williams
They're picking their kids up to see it. Hold on, honey, you don't want to miss it. He just chopped his head off. Oh, my God, that's so great. Oh, today was a great day. Did you miss the public execution? Like, right? Like I would throw up, like watching that. Right? I mean, everybody back then was built differently and slavery was normal. Okay, it was a normal thing. But let's stop talking about. About who bought. Can we talk about. It was a. It was, it was two parties involved. Okay? You can't be mad at the person who bought the slaves, only be mad at the ones who sold the slaves. It was called the slave trade, not the slave kidnapping.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Okay, yeah, it's a good point.
Tate Brown
It's true.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah.
Tate Brown
Well, I mean. And you can see the barbarism on display of like specifically Latin American slavery. You cited that number. 4.8 million slaves were imported to Brazil. African slaves versus 380,000 imported United States. But today, the African descended population in America is 40 million. So 40 million out of 380,000. And in Brazil, it's about 110 million out of 4.8 million. So you can see the devastation and the amount of death and churn. Cause like in Brazil, unfortunately, they would like, there's a lot of castration involved and they would just. They didn't view them as like an investment. It was literally just like work until you die. And in America, I'm not justifying it, but it's just. Just to like blame America and hold us as like the. The purest form of evil. And then you can look in the same hemisphere and see like barbarism. That would. I mean, you won't even be able to sleep reading about it.
Terence Williams
If I could go back and change time, I would. I wouldn't change anything. I don't care if people don't like it. They don't love how the founding fathers built this country, but everything they did led to this being the greatest country in the world. Okay, the greatest country. And I wouldn't change anything because if you change one thing, this would not be the greatest country in the. Okay. And that happens sometimes. People suffer for the greater good.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Butterfly effect. This one thing that off subject of slavery, what really got me was individual rugged ruggedism. Is that what it is?
Phil Labonte
Rugged individualism?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah. Like, there are a lot. Hassan Al Wasan. Jeez, these names are tough. Matthew Henson. Jane Batist. Point de Sable.
Phil Labonte
Like a lot of talking about, these.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Are a lot of black adventurers and rugged individuals who went and adventured and explored the world. Like white people are not the only effing people in the whole history of our, of our country to go out there and explore things and to find things and to make themselves better and make their family better and live out life and just do things. It's just, it's, it's a real mark on the, on race of black people. Like oh, you guys never did anything. You guys just sat down on your hands all days and you didn't actually go out in the land which geology.
Phil Labonte
But you actually one of the things that's worth noting here, right. Is the, the Protestant work ethic. And I think that there's, that is one of the main reasons why the United States is what it is and why the US has been so successful. You see the way that the Protestant work ethic has affected the United States versus all of the. And I know that there are going to be some people that are going to be upset about this but all the Catholics in South America up right there's a lot of like all of the, all of South America it was heavily influenced by the Catholics because Spain, Spain and, and Portugal had the Catholics, you know, that kind of influence because they were, that's where those colonies were.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
The United States was, was largely influenced by the Protestants because of wasp white Anglo Saxon Pottersons. And if you look at northern Europe you see a similar result because of that work ethic. Right. So England, the Scandinavia, a lot of the Germany, Northern Germany, Netherlands, it's all, all that same kind of successful societies because of that work ethic. And that's undeniable. And it has it. And whether or not people like it, it has nothing to do with being white. Because you see a similar work ethic with the Japanese and the Chinese 100.
Terence Williams
Yeah, absolutely.
Tate Brown
And you, and you see like even that, even the, the, the rugged individualism like that stems from Protestantism, that stems from the Puritans. They came over, they were hyper Calvinists because they viewed themselves that they didn't need any intercessor. They viewed themselves as self reliant on God, they viewed themselves as individual. They didn't need any institution. And that's where the fundamental anti institutionalism of the United States comes from. That's where that individualism comes from. And you're seeing kind of a denial of that today. But I mean that's absolutely right. Like what you were saying.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. And not only is it a denial but, but it's the total rejection of or an attempt at a total rejection. And that's one of the things that will destroy our society is a Rejection of things like hard work. Saying that. That. Thinking that that is not important. The idea that you can. You don't have to do. You don't work now. You can put it off. That's one of the things that built our country. And that's one of the things that you see younger generations getting away from. And that's a terrible thing.
Terence Williams
I see it all the time. And you know what? And. And it's some of the parents fault. That too. And I talked about this with some of my family members. When I hear some of my young nephews or cousins say, well, I'm only 18. I got time. I can wait to do this and wait to do that. I can't wait to get my life together. I still got. I heard people on fam. Oh, leave him alone. He's just 20. He got time to chase his dreams. He got time to do this. Just let him have fun and party and do that. No, no, he needs to work. Get a. If you're not doing nothing at all, just sitting at home partying, smoking, drink, go get a job, work, do something. And then they say, well, we should. We shouldn't even really have to work to have water and electricity when you should. When God made light. So why do we got to pay for light? That's so stupid. Like, people don't. These. These young. A lot of young people don't want to work. And I. And I think it's the fault of some of the parents too.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Sure.
Terence Williams
Because. Because they are not instilling that hard work in their children at all. They're not instilling that in his children. Children. And, you know, go to work.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
And they're like, when do I gotta wake up? Like, oh, I can't just wake up. When I'm supposed to wake up and go to sleep. When I'm supposed to go to sleep.
Terence Williams
What?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You're gonna. You're gonna have no food.
Phil Labonte
Effing. No, you can't.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You're right. You can't just. You're not gonna grow crops. I'm just gonna sleep in late, so I don't got. I'm gonna miss these crops this time. Right now they have to starve to death.
Terence Williams
They. Yeah, these. Yeah, like, they. Yeah, they just. They just. Like, the work ethic is just like one of my. Yeah. Like, no, you can't. My first foster parent, his name is John Earl. John. John Earl Solomon. This. The 1930s. He did not even finish high school. He dropped out so he can help take care of his siblings because his parents I think they passed away or whatever. So he stepped up to take care of all of his siblings. It was probably about 6 or 7 of siblings. He was working in the cotton fields, working hard. Put all of his siblings through college, all of his siblings, and then put all of his children through college. He was able to. He worked his way. Butt off. He was in the cotton fields, he was selling, he was working at meat factories, doing lawn work, doing, doing everything he could do. And put all his siblings through college also. And put all his kids through. Through college. Got them all and bought them all land in houses and didn't even have an education at all. Couldn't even read. But he worked his butt off if he can do it. These people, people today have no freaking excuse. Yeah. No excuse at all.
Tate Brown
That's what I hate most about this modern iteration of American culture is we've lost that sense of. I think this most beautiful description of Americans is that we're like temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah.
Tate Brown
All of us in our heads are millionaires. Just some of us aren't quite there yet. And that mentality carried us to greatness and it's getting wiped out in like two generations. Tragic. Nothing about modern Americans, life resembles early America in any meaningful way. And that's devastating. We need to recapture it before it's gone forever.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, Well, I mean, a lot of the. I mean, I think that a lot of it has to do with the fact that obviously the 1800s were hard.
Tate Brown
Sure.
Phil Labonte
Right. So until the 1900s, and then there's.
Tate Brown
A big shake up in the early 20th century.
Phil Labonte
Well, and not only that, then you had the Great Depression, which is not just in the U.S. although the U.S. had, you know, its fair share of suffering because of it. But those generations that lived through that, that stuff live through real hardship. And then after that, there hasn't been significant hardship on the same level since. So the boomers didn't have to deal with it. My generation didn't have to deal with significant hardship. And then millennials and Gen Z haven't had to. So there's been no, there's been no actual contact with what human history was like prior to, say, World War II. Right. The 20th century is steeped in blood. It is absolutely. It is an absolute horror show. More people died at the hands of their own governments than any other, any other century in human existence. And since 1940, end of World War II, since 1945, it has been smooth sailing in the United States. States generally. Right. There are times where you're going to say, oh, this was hard. And, and think there was a recession or whatever. There hasn't been a depression. There hasn't been 20%, 25% unemployment. There hasn't been a massive, I mean even, even Covid, which you know, the pandemic. Right. Even that wasn't significantly awful.
Tate Brown
Modernity softened the blow.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Tate Brown
You just sat at home and watched Netflix.
Phil Labonte
Exactly. And people did, you know, people weren't dying.
Terence Williams
Oh, and people, people receiving. Receive checks too.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Terence Williams
Okay.
Tate Brown
It happens in 1920. There's gonna be like riots. The whole country burns down to be horrible.
Terence Williams
People are not receiving checks in. Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Spanish flu.
Tate Brown
Right.
Phil Labonte
You know, P. A lot of people died and there were government policies that made it worse here. Like all of these things that, that basically reminded society or reminded people what real human life has been like up until basically 1950. 50. None of the generations since have had to actually in the, in the west have had to interact with that at all. Human existence has been a slog through mud and suffering and death up until about 1950. And so now we have a society of people, boomers included, that haven't had to deal with real adversity. There are a select few people that have had to deal with hard things, things in their lives and most of them have, have had to go overseas to deal with it.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So yeah, are we screwed?
Phil Labonte
I mean, to be honest with you, like there, the whole, you know, hard men or soft men create hard times. It's likely that we're in, in, you know, in the soft men part creating hard times.
Tate Brown
Yeah, well, when you feminize a society, you insulate it from any hardship. I mean, part of the reason you had these massive events taking place before the post, the post World War order was because men were risk takers and we'd restructure our societies and make gambles with our societies in ways that you don't see now where now it's as careful and calculated as possible. So okay, I mean, yes, there was these obviously these massive blow ups, the world wars being great examples. But most of these mass, these mass, like these hardship events that we're referring to were just an outcome of societies that took risks and pushed the envelope forward. And you don't get this 300, 400 years of, of development that we've saw, you know, post, post enlightenment really without societies at large taking massive gambles and you're going to get conflict that's going to happen. It's natural.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
All right, we're going to jump to this last story here to wrap up this from the AP supreme court allows Mississippi to require age verification on social media like Facebook and Apple X the supreme court on Thursday refused for now to block enforcement of a Mississippi law aimed at regulating the use of social media by children, an issue of growing national concern. The justices rejected an emergency appeal from a tech industry group representing major platforms like Facebook's, Facebook X and YouTube. Net choice is challenging laws passed in Mississippi and other states that require social media users to verify their agency ages and asked the court to keep the measure on hold while a lawsuit plays out. There were no noted dissents from the brief unsigned order. Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote that there is a good chance NetChoice will eventually succeed in showing that the law is unconstitutional but hadn't shown it must be blocked while the lawsuit unfolds. NetChoice argues that the Mississippi law threatens privacy rights and unconstitutionally restricts the free expression of users of all ages. A federal judge agreed and prevented the 2024 law from taking effect. But a three judge panel, the Fifth Circuit u. S. Court of appeals ruled in July that the law could be enforced while the lawsuit proceeds. It's the latest legal development as court challenges play out against similar laws in states across the country. Parents and even some teenagers are growing increasingly concerned the effects of social media use on young people. Supporters of the new laws have said they are needed, needed to help curb the explosive use of social media among young people and what researchers say is an increased, an associated increase in depression and anxiety. So do you guys think that this is a, would be a legitimate law that should pass or do you think that it's a bridge too far? My initial gut instinct is kids shouldn't be on social media, right? Like if you're under 13, you shouldn't be on social media. Social media, I think that it's probably damaging to kids. I think that parents shouldn't allow their kids to have social media from 13 to 16, 17. I'm not sure if a law is the right way to do it though.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
How else?
Terence Williams
Well, you have, now you have children who have YouTube channels. You look at what's that little. It's a famous kid named Ryan's toys or something.
Tate Brown
Oh yeah, he's like six.
Terence Williams
Yeah, he's like six. I mean he's, he's been hustling on YouTube since he was like probably three, selling toys and playing with toys and have millions of followers. So I, I mean I think if, I think kids can have one if their parents, if, if it's under their parents, if their parents, if the parents are managing their accounts. You know, I don't think it's any, the parents need to be managing the accounts. But I don't think it's, I don't think it's, I mean I'm not against kids not using the Internet. I don't think they should be on there. I mean, look at X. X allows a lot, it's a lot of porn on X, you know, and, and people are allowed to post porn on X. Elon has not banned porn on X. It is a, it is freedom of speech on there, you know, so if so anybody can get on there. 13, 12, 5 years old, believe it or not, 5 year olds know how to get on the Internet. They can get on and watch whatever they want.
Phil Labonte
There's.
Terence Williams
And they shouldn't be able to do that if it's porn on, if it's porn on there that you can watch without doing an age.
Phil Labonte
There's also the argument that if you have to have some kind of air age verification, it does away with anonymity. And now whether or not you think it's a good thing to do away with anonymity, it does prevent people from making ghost accounts or making bot accounts. You have, you can, it is likely that you could assume that accounts are actually people in the future if there has to be age verification or at least you'd know or there would be some way to know. And I personally think that that's a good thing too. Now again, I'm not saying that there should be legislation that, that people have to, you know, that I don't think the government needs, must get involved and I'm not sure that the means to do it without, I think it should.
Terence Williams
Be a state issue.
Phil Labonte
But I do think that in the future, if we're talking about dead Internet theory all the time and we're concerned with, with whether or not accounts that are on the Internet are actually people. This might be a way to make sure that they are people.
Tate Brown
Well, I'm very skeptical of age verification because something people need to understand is everyone's getting really excited about Gen Z swinging to the right, especially Gen Z men. Well, if they didn't have Internet access and Anon accounts, that's not happening. That's going to be just another Democrat generation, just like the millennials. So it's so it's like I understand the motive. I'm not saying people, especially in Mississippi because Mississippi is a great state. I'm not speculating these people have malicious intent. I think they actually are trying to look out for children. But you need to understand that access to information when you're a teenager is what is creating such a right wing reaction among young people that matriculation does not occur because they're just gonna be exposed to what they see at public school.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, well, balance between the. The anons who want to go and turn right compared to the government overreach.
Phil Labonte
To your point, are social media sites the same thing in your estimation as sites like 4chan? Because the phenomenon you're talking about got its start on poll, got Its start.
Tate Brown
At 4chan, but the average zoomer, right winger, he saw a based edit on Instagram and then he was like, I want that. Trump's too far left.
Phil Labonte
So do you think that. That something like 4chan is a different animal or do you think that it's a social. That it counts as social?
Tate Brown
4 Chan's kind of lost its, its aura a little bit.
Phil Labonte
That's why I'm not, I'm not like going specifically boards and stuff, things like that. Do you think that message boards are the same thing as social media?
Tate Brown
Well, they're not the same thing. And I mean as far as this.
Phil Labonte
Legislation would go or this kind of kind of thing would go is the point that I'm making.
Tate Brown
I think so. It would be mostly apps. Like the verification would take place during apps because it needs to be an established LLC that can process ID verification or contract someone that can process the ID verification.
Terence Williams
Yeah, I mean, I guess some people might think that it is an invader privacy. You might have some people who want to make an account. They want to dunk on people and say crazy stuff and then, you know, they may not want their identity. They may not want X or Facebook to know their identity. Now is there a way? I would not be opposed to this at all is maybe there is. No, there's always a way. When there's a will, there's a way. It's always a way. All this technology is possible. For instance, if people are. If people don't want their kids seeing certain things on the Internet. Okay. You know, like for instance, there are like some of these only fan models that are all over the Internet. Right. Because that is a big thing, porn on the Internet. Okay. That. I don't think this is where some of this is coming from as well.
Tate Brown
Absolutely.
Terence Williams
Porn being on the Internet. So if, if an account is actually posting porn, nudes, videos, maybe there is a way for X or Facebook book to have a. I don't know where they may not. People may not like that. An Age verification. If you want to view a page that's full of nudity. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, some people may say, oh no, I don't want to watch it. Then that mean you are watching that page then? Because if you're not watching that, then you don't care. So, so we know, who cares if, if they, they're against, against that. But I would not be opposed to that at all. You know, and that means allowing the youth to be on the Internet by market. Now don't be marking political pages for. If you want to view Tim Pool's page, you got to show age verification because he said. Because he's full of conspiracy theories and he's.
Phil Labonte
I think it goes without saying though.
Terence Williams
Yeah, I think only for like nudity accounts.
Tate Brown
Well, yeah, I mean, well, one, one workaround, I mean, I think this actually is achievable in the next few is just outright banning pornography. That would be fantastic. That would solve all our problems. The other thing, I mean there's so much at play here. Like keeping an anonymity on the Internet is essential. Cause like for example, people are so thankful that this is the most conservative presidential administration we've seen in a long, I mean, certainly in the modern era. And you have to credit that to Twitter Anons because you see, you'll see a discussion happen on Twitter, there'll be an argument, you know, whatever, and there's movers and shakers watching that. And then three months later, the Trump administration, you start hearing talks that there's officials that are entertaining these ideas, like the federalization of D.C. this was being argued on Twitter about three months ago by people with anon accounts and goofy profile pictures. So it's like, it's people that have really nice, these are smart guys that have well paying jobs and families that can't risk getting their lives destroyed. So they have to maintain anonymity. And so that's essential. I understand the privacy concerns of the edge verification, but I mean, are you concerned when you give, you know, a gas station clerk your id? I mean, they scan it. Who knows where that's going?
Phil Labonte
So I, it's, I think I've said this on the show. I think that the idea of privacy is more an idea that's kind of passe.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
And, and, and not. This isn't, this is again, for all the people that are going to take this and get all worked up because I'm saying it, this isn't something that I endorse. Course. This is just something that I think is a reality nowadays. I think the idea of Internet privacy is actually gone. I think that people like to talk about it and they like to think that they have privacy, but then they pump all their information into Instagram, pump all their every. They pump in all that you need to know to actually find out who they are. Shia LaBeouf got found in the middle of nowhere because of contrails. When he took a picture of a flag. He took a picture of just a flag. That's it. And there were. It was just blue sky behind it. And they found him.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
And 4chan found him. And it wasn't weeks later. It was. It was very fast.
Terence Williams
Yeah, I. I don't think so.
Phil Labonte
The idea of privacy.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
If you're taking pictures. Pictures of anything. Anything at all. The. The. I saw one. I saw one of those. A video of some dude that figured out where a woman was because she took a picture of grass.
Tate Brown
Oh, yeah.
Phil Labonte
It was a. Yeah, yeah.
Tate Brown
Rainbow, I think is his name.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Tate Brown
And he can like find anything anywhere. Anything.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
And you lick. You lick like a pole. And he'll go out there and get the DNA test. He'll find out exactly where.
Phil Labonte
I saw. There were. There were people on 4chan that were helping call in strikes on Russians. So as much as people like to say I, you know, and you know, anonymity is important to me. You're only anonymous if people don't care.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
If people care, they're going there and you put picture. If you don't do anything except for use one account that never puts up pictures from the real world. Maybe, but most people don't have that kind of privacy.
Tate Brown
And also the. The intel community has relationships with the. With journalist. Everyone knows this and that's how a lot of these anons get doxxed is the intelligence agencies will pass along the information to a journalist and then the journalist will come up with a way of how they like they geniusly. They broke it. I think it's happened to raw ag nationalists and. Yeah. So it's like it is important to have anonymity and whatnot. But if you really are a big threat, you know, the intel will pass it along to a journo and then.
Phil Labonte
You know, and to be honest with you, considering the fact that AI is still in its infancy, like once AI gets to a certain level of. Of ability, once you get an AI that can really do digging, it doesn't take, you know, the autist on 4chan anymore. They'll feed. They'll. They'll literally feed in two pictures from this account say, where's this account from? And the AI will be able to find it.
Tate Brown
I definitely understand why people are annoyed with anons because it's like, okay, the world I'm in that I'm plugged into is like, there's a lot of these guys that seem like well meaning and they're smart and they have a lot of fun. Fun. But you go into any influencer, I mean, you've probably seen it. You go to any influencer, there's just these vicious people that don't put their names out there because they're too scared to get behind what they say. And they just rip people all day long. So it's like. I also understand why people get frustrated at the AON accounts because it's just people that are coward. Cowardly. It's just some people like haters.
Phil Labonte
Just in, just in like the chat, there are people that are talking about, you know, like people have threatened me in this, in the chat, people have talked about. There was someone that was talking about like, who wants Phil's address?
Tate Brown
Sure.
Phil Labonte
They're going to dox me.
Tate Brown
You have to take the good with like bad with the.
Terence Williams
I have a message that I received that I posted on Instagram. I want to read it and during the after show. It is okay. It is some message. I.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It was exciting times.
Terence Williams
Yeah, but. And I know that person would not want to put in their identification.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Terence Williams
So.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So, so for the kids, I don't know how to. I don't know how to fix situation. But I. Kids, you know, young kid, six years old, having his, his toy thing is. Whatever it is, is fine.
Phil Labonte
Whatever. I don't know.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
But it does. We've. It's research has shown that it's bad for kids.
Terence Williams
Yeah.
Tate Brown
I mean I've had Twitter for people. I've had a Twitter account since I was 12 years old.
Terence Williams
I mean this could fix the issue too.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You turned out okay.
Terence Williams
If you have a child, don't let them on the Internet, don't give them phone.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Don't like up to the parents. The parents.
Terence Williams
Sometimes it's up to the parents too.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Oh yeah, sure, sure. We don't need the state, the government to be like, yo, you can't do this.
Terence Williams
Well, yeah, parent, you have to buy the phone.
Tate Brown
I agree.
Terence Williams
That 12 year old can't buy no phone.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Terence Williams
I think it's just you bought the phone, you put the Internet on there, right. I mean you can, you can. They even have options where you can.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Where you can lock them too.
Terence Williams
Yeah. Where you can lock certain apps.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah.
Terence Williams
So some of the parents are allowing this. They don't. Some of them don't.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
All the parents are allowing this.
Terence Williams
Yes.
Tate Brown
It just seems like outsourcing this to the state seems a bit redundant. And then also like I said, I don't trust the motive behind it because I think a large and I think this was a big part of the TikTok ban is they're trying. There's a huge containment breach of ideas. Right. People don't want to vote for Mitt Romney anymore and they have to figure out a way to shove everyone back into a box. And a big part of that is limiting online discourse. And a lot of teenagers, I mean that's really bad for children to be on the Internet, but a lot of teenagers, 16, 17, that's when you start being exposed to like conservative thought. That's when you start seeing turning point events.
Terence Williams
I'm not gonna lie. I have considered making an A9 account. I've considered that. I have considered making a troll account myself. I'd be wanting to say some things I can't say on my personal page. I be wanna go cousin W's have considered it.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
You know, just make children normal again.
Phil Labonte
Real. All right, we're, we're gonna go to super chat so why don't you go ahead and smash the like button. Share the show with all your friends. Share the show with everyone you know. Head on over to Timcast.com join the Discord and head on over to Rumble.com and join Rumble so that way you can join us with the after show from if you're in the member of the Discord you can call in and you can talk to the guest, you can talk to us, you can ask silly questions, you can ask serious questions, you can find like minded individuals. But go on over to timcast.com Become a member and then of the Discord and then go on over to Rumble and become a member of rumble.com so you can join the after show. But right now we're going to go to your super chats and we're going to start off with the homie Shane H. Wilder. Shane H. Wilder says tomorrow at 10am The Texas House will end the special session session and then immediately gavel a new special session. If any Dems return, they'll be taken to the house and locked in to have a quorum. I don't imagine there will be a significant number of Texas state Democratic representatives that are going to show up for work tomorrow.
Tate Brown
Yeah, I mean they're threatening checks. And you know, a lot of these Texas, well, just state reps in general actually don't make very much money and a lot of them do depend on those checks. So dangling the checks over there, it actually might draw a good amount of them back. It already is drawing a good amount of them back.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I've been busy doing some stuff.
Terence Williams
Blue.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Collar stuff, and I haven't been on the news. I'm seeing anything, but I didn't see that they passed the redistricting. So I assumed that they came back. But I found out today with you guys, they didn't come back.
Terence Williams
The Democrats want to be arrested because they believe that they, they would love to have handcuffs on them. They are going to run with that. I mean, you would, we would not hear the end of it. The President of the United States is arresting his opponents. He is not, he is a true dictator. And a bunch of them, you got some of them that are black, the black ones, they really going to run it up. I mean, they're going to get so many donations, it's going to be crazy.
Phil Labonte
You know, do you know any of the, of the Democrat, the Texas Democrats that have fled and if you do, do, do you think they're talented enough to capitalize on the.
Terence Williams
Absolutely. They need something. They're desperate for something.
Phil Labonte
No, no. But do you think they're talented enough to capitalize on it? Obviously it will get them attention, but will they be able to use, are they politically talented enough to take that attention and turn it into something meaningful that will take them out of only Texas politics and put them onto the national stage? And will they have staying powers like.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
A certain person, maybe or two?
Terence Williams
Yeah, yeah. I think, I think some of them are talented enough to do that. That is what they've been doing for a very long time, turning nothing into something, you know, they, they know how to do that. They know how to do that. And CNN and MSNBC are going to help them. Yeah, they're going to help them.
Phil Labonte
I think they would. I, I don't know of anyone.
Terence Williams
Not, not all of them. But, but they're going to help them, you know.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know of any, I don't know the names in particular. Particular. But this would be an opportunity where that, that if they are politically savvy, they could turn it into a national.
Terence Williams
They all want a Trump moment. They all want to be arrested because, you know, they thought it would hurt Trump and it helped them.
Phil Labonte
But now they all, but the point that I'm making is you can't. Like, just getting onto the stage doesn't mean you perform well. Yeah. Like, so I. I had this experience in my. In my career as a musician. We wanted to get on this one big tour called Ozfest. And we had the opportunity, and our agent was like, don't do it. And I was like, what the heck are you talking about? Because I was like, you do Ozfest, and that means you are a big band after that. But with the year that we got the first offer, we didn't have a new product to sell. So what we. What our agent said is gonna back into the studio, do your next record. Your label, he's. He's like, I'll. I'll bet you get an offer next year. You got to trust me. But your label will then have a new record to promote, etc. And it was. And I was like, all right, this seems ter. Like a terrible idea to me, because I didn't understand. But we got the opportunity the next year. We did it, and we had all of our ducks in a row to capitalize on the attention that we got. I don't know if the Democrats have any people that can capitalize on that kind of attention.
Terence Williams
They're going to try to.
Phil Labonte
Yes, agree.
Terence Williams
They're going to. That doesn't mean they're going to. They're going to secede. But they. But I do believe they are all going to try to do that. You know, there was a time that Gavin Newsom was begging to be arrested. You know, not too long ago, he was saying, arrest me. I'm ready to be arrested. Come arrest me. What you're going to do? Arrest. Arrest me. Come arrest me. Like, they want to. These. They want to be arrested because. Because, yeah, they want to be arrested because then it's gonna, in their minds, are going to prove their point that the Republican Party is a dangerous party. And they want to. They want to arrest their. They are dictators who want to jail and. And threaten their opponents. Like it's. Yeah, it's.
Tate Brown
It's great marketing. And you can raise a lot of money by being Trump's enemy. Singled me out.
Terence Williams
And some of them, all they do is just want to raise money.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Terence Williams
Some they, I mean, think you're just.
Tate Brown
A measly representative in the Texas state. This is your big break. If you get arrested.
Terence Williams
Exactly.
Tate Brown
Beto.
Terence Williams
It's their chance.
Tate Brown
Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Gary G. Says caught Creed live last night. Based. Watching IRL tonight while running on a treadmill. Even more based. Gotta love that. Get those steps in. Trader Potato says Yo, Phil, what are the. Are your thoughts on Mustaine and Megadeth announcing their retirement? Retirement. Didn't expect Dave to go on forever, but still, my sadness is immeasurable. I tell you what, I think that like, so most of you guys know we got the opportunity to tour with Megadeth last year. We did two months worth of touring with him. Dave was not only an absolute gentleman, he was one of the most accommodating people that I've ever had the privilege of touring with. He's a great guy. His family are great. His son is justice is, is, is the manager and I saw justice around a bunch on the tour. He was great. They were so incredibly cordial and, and accommodating to all that remains. So I got nothing but good things to say about Dave. I'm super happy that I got the chance to tour with him before he's decided to, to, you know, to retire. Look, Dave has had cancer. The guys in Megadeth are, you know, they're all in their late 50s or, or almost all of them are in their late 50s or early 60s. 60s. Dave is, I think he's like 62. So I mean, look, he's. He's decided to bow out when he still sounds great, when he still performs great. So that way everybody remembers Mega Death when they were, you know, firing on all cylinders. I wish that, you know, I wish that time didn't do what time does, but, you know, it's, it's. I don't think that, that you can have a more illustrious career or if there are only a handful of bands that, that have had a more illustrious career career than Megadeth. And there are very few people that have had the impact on heavy metal that Dave Mustaine has had. I mean, the guy wrote some of the best songs that Metallica plays, right? Like some of the. The stuff. The stuff off Kill Them all and, and a bunch of things off of Ride the Lightning. Those. That was Dave Mustaine that wrote it. So I, I can't say enough good things about Megadeth and, and he will absolutely be sorely missed.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
People age and gu.
Terence Williams
Old.
Phil Labonte
Yep.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
God damn you, Whiteness.
Terence Williams
We are real.
Phil Labonte
They do. Let's see. Bike Curious George says. Here is my obligatory rumble rant for having a baby. Congratulations.
Terence Williams
Yeah, yeah.
Phil Labonte
My wife had our first baby, Elizabeth Libby, 8lbs 7oz at 8:40 this morning. Everyone is healthy. That is great news. Congratulations. As soon as your wife is feeling up to it, make another one.
Tate Brown
That's right.
Phil Labonte
Make more babies.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
The baby's Name is Libby.
Phil Labonte
Baby's name is Libby. Yeah. Elizabeth. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you very much. Tell your wife we, we wish her the best. We wish you both the best. Make more babies. You're doing, you're doing a great service.
Tate Brown
Sending reinforcements like as soon as you're.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Done here, as soon as you're ready to go.
Phil Labonte
As soon as she can.
Tate Brown
I mean, look, he's arriving. All these patriots are having babies. It's beautiful.
Phil Labonte
Sarah and I are already have a plan like worked out once she's had the baby. We've got a plan for when the next baby will be coming. You know, we've got some stuff that we have to handle first but you know, sure, that's cool here. Gal. Sheer gal. I guess they're going to claim those 12.4 million dead recipients were voting and donated to Act Blue for decades. I mean, look man, that's one of the good reasons or one of the good things about cleaning up these roles is you can get rid of the abuse. You know, when, when people talk about getting rid of the waste, fraud and abuse, this is the abuse they're talking about. You know, let's see. Lady Tight says. I've said this many times, but boomers and Gen X have single handedly ruined this country by letting politicians get away with everything and hoarding all the countries wealth and breeding Nepo babies. Yeah, okay. I mean it doesn't matter whose fault it is at this point. We just got to fix it. Yeah, everything needs to be fixed. It doesn't matter whose fault it is. Let's just get to work. I mean, positivity, positivity. It is true to say that, that boomers and Gen X are causing a problem about fixing stuff. Right? Like because they're not voting, they're voting to, to not obstructing it. Yeah, obstructing the, the necessary cuts stuff. So it is, it is legitimate to say that the boomers did that. I'm not sure if the boomers did, you know, made all the problems though, because it's, it's been coming for a long time. I personally think that, you know, when you took the dollar off the gold standard, you know, and allowed for the government to just, you know, print up as much money regardless of how much gold. Gold was out there. So the Federal Reserve is actually the, the fundamental problem because that's where, you know, and that goes all the way back to 1913. That was a silent generation. So let's keep this generation stuff going right here.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
And, and I'll take the blame for not paying attention to politics as a Gen Xer last, last year, Gen Xer because life was so good in the 80s, 90s and 2000s.
Terence Williams
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I didn't know, I didn't know how bad it was until it got back bad.
Phil Labonte
Micah Do Johnson says Gen Z here. I'm far past worrying about Social Security. I've given up all hope of ever seeing a scent to the point it doesn't even cross my mind. If you're married, live on one income and save the rest. Look man, that, that is a great, that is a great or that is great advice, but it's not that simple because what the government's going to do is inflate the currency they're going to print and that's going to affect you. So you may never see, see Social Security, but the government's going to ruin the value of your dollar.
Terence Williams
Ouch.
Phil Labonte
And it's possible. No, I don't, I don't know that it will happen, but it's possible that the government just blows up the whole, the dollar and totally. Right. Like if they start printing money, you know, start, if they start printing money, like hyperinflation kind of money, right. You're talking about the whole world deciding that they don't trust the United States any, anymore. And that tends to turn into wars. So these kind of problems are bigger than just, oh, you know, we won't be able to pay our bills if we default a lot. Cause that'll cause a lot of problems globally because we are the global hegemon and we have the world's reserve currency. If we start printing money beyond what we've already done, start really getting crazy. Not that it's not crazy now countries are going to start saying we're never getting our money back from the government, from the, from the federal government, so we might as well call in our debt. Now. That kind of stuff will inspire, you know, governments to, to do really, really crazy bad things. And that's the kind of stuff that starts world wars. So it's not as much as, as I understand your, your, your point and I agree with you, it goes beyond that and it has a, it'll have a negative effect on, on not just the United States, but probably the whole world.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So we go from M1 to M2 and then we're going to hit M3 and that's going to be the, you know.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. You know, Spooky toucan says. Big thanks to Serge Tate and Phil for great takes fact checks on Christianity last night. Hope all Is well for Tim and fam. Well done to the team for holding down the fort. Lud. Luke Growski is amazing too.
Tate Brown
Luke.
Phil Labonte
Luke Rudkowski is amazing.
Terence Williams
All right.
Phil Labonte
I'm not sure. I'm not sure what he's amazing at, but he is amazing. He's great. But we appreciate it. Thank you. And really, you should. You should really, like. It's actually Tate and Serge that really deserve the. The credit. I. I piped in a little bit on. On some of the stuff that I knew, but, like, those guys are the real. The real ones pushing back.
Tate Brown
It sucks because the clip that's getting passed around, it's like they. They cut out. Me and Serge is, like, dunking, but I don't know. Maybe we should have gone in earlier.
Phil Labonte
We should have gone in earlier. We got him good, though.
Tate Brown
We. We let him cook. We made it. You just.
Terence Williams
Just didn't make the cut, buddy.
Tate Brown
He made. He made his case. He. He blasphemed Christ in the process, and we had to step in.
Phil Labonte
I mean, is it just me, or does that. Should that bit have been on Inverted World? I really feel like that was probably more. More. More appropriate for Inverted World because that kind of, like, you know, it's not. It's not your typical religious talk. It's a lot of.
Tate Brown
Oh, that bit should have been for a therapist. Ridiculous. He's bringing penny bags. Yeah, I guess. Out here. Go test.
Phil Labonte
All right, let's see. Oh, man. Let's see. 562. Micah says you thinking the redistricting will not pass. You are completely ignorant of how crazy the people who will vote out here. This is already done. I mean, maybe, you know, we're just.
Tate Brown
Going off polling, so.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, I mean, I. I could be wrong.
Tate Brown
Is it worse on the. Let us know. Is it. Is it on the ground? Are people actually saying they're going to vote for it? I mean, that'd be interesting.
Terence Williams
What they. There's a saying. Don't mess with tax Texas. And I'm.
Phil Labonte
Oh, he's talking about California.
Terence Williams
Oh, California.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Tate Brown
Because they have. In California, the voters have to approve of redistricting because they have an independent commission.
Terence Williams
Yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work.
Tate Brown
Yeah. Cause the polling says a 60, 40, but. Yeah, you can't count. Count out liberals to do something really.
Terence Williams
Stupid so it could pass. You never know. Anything could happen. Anything is possible. You know, I'm not the type to say, you know. Well, I will say never would. AOC Being the President of the United States of America But I will say. But I normally don't say never because any as possible. Yeah.
Phil Labonte
Jason Dixon says, where's Tim? That way.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
He's over there.
Tate Brown
He's out beyond yonder. On yonder.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
So, yeah, eating.
Terence Williams
Don't worry. I said the same thing when I got here. Where's Tim?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, I said, how you doing, buddy? Like, I don't give a.
Tate Brown
He's resting up. He's resting.
Phil Labonte
He's sick. It's, it's. It's, you know, I mean, the guy's normally works like, yeah, five days a week in the morning and at night. So, you know, he gets sick and he's like, all right, I'm actually going to take some time off because it.
Tate Brown
Also shows how hard he grinds as he misses, like, two days and like the world.
Terence Williams
That's treasonous.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, yeah. You heard his voice the other day.
Phil Labonte
Like, you knew.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
I heard on irl you could, like.
Tate Brown
You know, I've been matching, like, barely his schedule and I'm, like, exhausted for, like, two days.
Phil Labonte
You have been getting it in for a long time. Tim did everything by himself. Like, he was. He was doing the morning and night, and there was no one that would come, that could come in to cover for him. When I came on, when I started working here, here, like, one of the reasons was so I could cover for Tim, so that way he could do other things. And you've got Tate here who can do. Handle the morning show and then meet Hayton and the, the crew here can handle the. The evening show. So it's. It's not like he's never coming back. He's just resting the. Taking the rest that he needs. Remember, he was doing the morning show and the evening show and he did the culture war for. And he was doing the. I think he went to the after shows, the after parties at the culture war. So he's working six days a week.
Tate Brown
He's doing other press.
Phil Labonte
Yeah. And he's doing other, other things so that, like, it, it takes a toll on your body. Believe me. When, when, you know, when all that remains is touring and, And I'm doing an hour set, like, during the day. I'm not talking at all. I'm. And I'm going to bed right after the show. I don't go out. I would never go out after the show and go to the bars and stuff like that. I couldn't do that because I wouldn't be able to talk, never mind sing or scream. It really does take a toll. So he has to get the rest that he needs. Needs. He'll, he'll go ahead and he'll, he'll take the weekend off and, and I don't know if he's doing anything tomorrow or whatever, but he's not going to be here. He'll. He'll be off tomorrow and we'll be handling the show. But he'll be back. But he's got to get rest. You know, he's only human.
Tate Brown
That dude hates not working like he. Yeah, he's, he's mad right now that he's not working like they do grind.
Phil Labonte
That's another thing. Not. Just because he's not on camera doesn't mean he's not working like he's still in this. Yeah, he's still talking and, and, and putting. Coming up with ideas for, for what the, the, the, the segments should be. He's. He's still directing what's going on. He's just not talking on camera now. So he's, he's taking the time off that he needs. But he'll be back.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It also says a lot about the, the, the IRL and everyone like from like a couple years ago, like it was just him and now he's able at that point that success that we're all here, that he's able to take time and heal up. Go team.
Phil Labonte
Mark the shame says YouTube IV ID verification begins. Tom Borrow. Well, I'll shoot.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Shoot.
Phil Labonte
Oh, I mean, maybe, maybe. Maybe that's going to be the future. You know, there.
Tate Brown
Yeah, there'll be a service that gets away somehow gets around it. Kind of like ad block.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
We could like invest in that company because it's probably going to blow up.
Tate Brown
It'll probably. We'll probably go to jail. That's. Yeah, yeah, sure.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
He's an end in name.
Tate Brown
Yeah, exactly. There you go. Ray. Ray Steven.
Terence Williams
And there you go.
Phil Labonte
John Hoyle says they'll run Governor Mara Healey in 2028 already astroturfing her and she's getting visits from large funders. Mara Healey. What, what state is she from? Mar.
Terence Williams
Hilly.
Phil Labonte
I don't know. I have no idea.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
That Texas they know by chance?
Phil Labonte
No, that. That's Greg Abbott.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, Greg Abbott. Oh, oh, you're talking about the, the Mass Main lady.
Tate Brown
Oh, no, no, she's the, she's the governor of. Governor of Massachusetts. Yeah, yeah. She's terrible. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Terence Williams
She's brutal.
Tate Brown
She's awful.
Phil Labonte
Yeah.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
She is the white lady with the short gray.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's currently the governor Messenger. I am not a fan of Massachusetts Laws or their politicians so much that I left a lot of years ago and I'm not going back only to visit my mom. And dude, I would never.
Terence Williams
Yeah, I would never. For the simple fact I can barely pronounce it.
Phil Labonte
All right, guys, so smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. Terence, you have anything you want to shout out?
Terence Williams
Yes, I do. You can follow me at X on X and F. You know, X is sound like a porn site. Follow me on X, we call it.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, a lot of times we call.
Terence Williams
It Follow me on X. Formerly known as Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, @Terence K. Williams. If you're hungry, go to cousin te.com and get you some pancakes and some chicken or whatever you want. Won't do them, but do them 10,000 steps, though. Every day, do them 10,000 steps.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Follow me on the X. The porn site X. My name is Raymond Stanley Jr. I always enjoy having a good time here and we have a great time.
Tate Brown
Yeah, you can follow me on Instagram and X. Realtate Brown. Come hang out.
Phil Labonte
All right. I am Phil that Remains on Twix and the band is all that remains. You can check us out on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, and Deezer. Don't forget, the left lane is for crime. We will see you guys tomorrow right here. Tate will be running the morning show. I believe I will.
Tate Brown
There's no morning show on Friday, so I'm.
Phil Labonte
Oh, no. Yeah, just the culture. Tune into the culture war. It will be. It is the Marvin.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
It's the feminism one.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, it's Myon Gaines and Kayla. Whatever. The Destiny Sweeper. The chick that was sweeping up.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tate Brown
Do the ad. I'm just kidding, Cat.
Phil Labonte
Yeah, Cat, Tim.
Tate Brown
Don't miss it.
Phil Labonte
It's. I think the Bold Lib was there too, right?
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Yeah, on stage.
Tate Brown
There were some cameos.
Phil Labonte
Awesome.
Tate Brown
I won't spoil all of them.
Phil Labonte
There's some good cameos tomorrow, 11am Definitely.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Cool.
Phil Labonte
The culture war. And then right back here tomorrow night for irl. We will see you guys tomorrow.
Terence Williams
Sa.
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Timcast IRL: Trump Exposes 275K Illegal Aliens Receiving Social Security Payments, Removes Them w/ Terrence K. Williams
Release Date: August 15, 2025
Host: Timcast Media
Guest: Terence K. Williams
Introduction
In this episode of Timcast IRL, host Tim Pool delves into the impactful announcement made by former President Donald Trump regarding significant changes to the Social Security system. Joined by comedian and entrepreneur Terence K. Williams, along with co-hosts Phil Labonte, Raymond G. Stanley Jr., and Tate Brown, the discussion navigates through the intricacies of Social Security reform, governmental overreach, and the broader implications for American politics and society.
1. Social Security Act's 90th Anniversary and Trump's Reform Announcement
Timestamp: [05:33]
The episode kicks off with Trump celebrating the 90th anniversary of the Social Security Act. Trump highlights major reforms, including the removal of nearly 275,000 illegal aliens from the Social Security system and the elimination of tax on Social Security benefits for seniors.
Trump emphasizes that these measures strengthen the Social Security system and combat unprecedented levels of fraud, contrasting his actions with the Biden administration's approach.
2. Systemic Fraud and the Removal of Overage Individuals
Timestamp: [06:28]
The discussion deepens as Terence Williams questions the veracity of removing 12.4 million names from the Social Security database, all reportedly over 120 years old.
Stanley responds, indicating the improbability of such outdated entries remaining active, but the hosts debate the accuracy and potential motives behind these figures.
3. Democratic Party's Potential Spin and Public Reaction
Timestamp: [07:56]
Phil Labonte explores how Democrats might portray Trump's Social Security reforms as harmful, fearing backlash from removing beneficiaries who allegedly need assistance.
The panel contemplates whether this issue, broadly recognized as problematic across political lines, will sway public opinion or become another polarized debate.
4. Homelessness and Crime in D.C.: Federal Intervention
Timestamp: [50:50]
Shifting focus, the hosts discuss a Washington Post report on the clearing of homeless encampments near the Kennedy Center in D.C., aligning with Trump's administration's crackdown on such populations.
The team debates the implications of federal intervention in local governance, the effectiveness of these measures, and the real-world impact on residents.
5. Gavin Newsom's Redistricting Efforts and Presidential Aspirations
Timestamp: [06:59]
The conversation transitions to California Governor Gavin Newsom's proposal for a special election to redraw congressional maps, viewed by the hosts as a strategic move to counter Republican efforts.
The panel scrutinizes Newsom's motives, speculating on his potential presidential ambitions and the broader strategy behind redistricting.
6. Supreme Court's Ruling on Age Verification for Social Media
Timestamp: [87:40]
Tim Pool addresses the Supreme Court's decision to allow Mississippi's law mandating age verification on social media platforms like Facebook, Apple, and X. The Court's refusal to block enforcement while litigation continues highlights the ongoing tension between regulation and digital privacy.
The hosts debate the necessity and ramifications of such laws, weighing child protection against privacy rights and freedom of expression.
7. Smithsonian Exhibit Controversies and Jillian Michaels' CNN Appearance
Timestamp: [59:38]
A heated segment covers controversies surrounding the Smithsonian's revamped exhibits, particularly Jillian Michaels' appearance on CNN where she allegedly defended white people during discussions on slavery and American history.
The panel argues against what they perceive as historical revisionism, emphasizing the importance of accurate representation of America's past without attributing systemic issues solely to race.
8. Generational Perspectives on Social Security and Economic Stability
Timestamp: [15:03]
The discussion shifts to generational concerns surrounding Social Security's solvency, with younger generations expressing anxiety over its future amidst mounting national debt.
Terence Williams and Tate Brown highlight the disinterest among Gen Z in Social Security, debating the lack of awareness and proactive planning for retirees' future.
9. Predictions on Future Elections and Political Dynamics
Timestamp: [38:01]
Looking ahead, the hosts speculate on the 2028 presidential race, pondering the viability of candidates like Gavin Newsom, Ro Khanna, and Maxine Waters against a backdrop of heightened political polarization.
The discussion touches on the internal conflicts within the Democratic Party and the challenges of uniting a diverse voter base to present a formidable candidate against potential Republican contenders.
10. Listener Interactions and Super Chats
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with listener super chats, addressing questions and comments ranging from local politics in Texas to personal anecdotes about the impact of federal policies.
These interactions provide a platform for real-time feedback and further exploration of the topics discussed.
Conclusion
In this comprehensive episode, Timcast IRL navigates through pivotal issues affecting American society, from Social Security reforms and homelessness in D.C. to generational economic concerns and upcoming political landscapes. Through insightful discussions and listener engagement, the show sheds light on the complexities of governance, policy-making, and the ever-evolving dynamics of U.S. politics. As the nation grapples with these challenges, Timcast IRL continues to provide a platform for uncensored dialogue and independent analysis.
Notable Quotes:
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. [05:40]: "No tax on Social Security for our seniors. And to protect our benefits, we've already kicked nearly 275,000 illegal aliens off of the Social Security system."
Terence Williams [07:56]: "They're going to say that Trump is lying. They're going to say he doesn't have proof."
Phil Labonte [16:02]: "Going to take, they're going to just print money to pay the debt."
Tate Brown [78:26]: "The rugged individualism like that stems from Protestantism, that stems from the Puritans."
Terence Williams [80:02]: "They just need to work. Get a job and save."
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